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Missing Persons - High Profile => Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire => Topic started by: MuffyBee on August 02, 2011, 08:17:44 PM



Title: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011 - 10/21/11
Post by: MuffyBee on August 02, 2011, 08:17:44 PM
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Celina Cass  
   ::MonkeyAngel::Rest in Peace   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 04, 2011, 12:06:16 AM
Everyone still in the old thread?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 04, 2011, 12:09:54 AM
Nope, I'm here.  It seems like I'm good at screwing up quotes but good at finding the new thread.  LOL

I know the Anthonys are dysfunctional but this whole extended family takes the cake.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 04, 2011, 12:13:04 AM
I am here too but not for long...after 11 o clock and I have 3 grand daughters here staying the night...they finally fell asleep watching Rio...Grammy going to bed soon too
Hope we get some answers and maybe an arrest tomorrow..



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 04, 2011, 12:29:07 AM

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0804grandad_cries_out_for_justice_celina_cass_murder/


Celina Cass’s grandfather cries out for justice
By Marie Szaniszlo And John Zaremba
Thursday, August 4, 2011 - Updated 1 hour ago


 ::monkeyscissors::

I just hope justice is brought and whoever’s responsible gets the max because that little girl didn’t deserve that,” Wally Laro told the Herald yesterday. “I don’t want no Casey Anthony.”

 ::snipping2::

Granite State cops from the Major Crimes Unit also removed barrels of evidence yesterday at the girl’s home in West Stewartstown after securing a search warrant. The girl’s death is being ruled suspicious, with further autopsy and toxicology results pending.



 ::monkeyscissors::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 04, 2011, 12:32:54 AM




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http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0804grandad_cries_out_for_justice_celina_cass_murder/


Celina Cass’s grandfather cries out for justice
By Marie Szaniszlo And John Zaremba

Thursday, August 4, 2011 - Updated 1 hour ago

 ::monkeywine2::
 

I just hope justice is brought and whoever’s responsible gets the max because that little girl didn’t deserve that,” Wally Laro told the Herald yesterday. “I don’t want no Casey Anthony.”

 snip

Granite State cops from the Major Crimes Unit also removed barrels of evidence yesterday at the girl’s home in West Stewartstown after securing a search warrant. The girl’s death is being ruled suspicious, with further autopsy and toxicology results pending.



 snip


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 04, 2011, 12:35:59 AM
This was snipped from the very first page.

He said Cass gets along with her family and had no medical issues that would prompt her to leave.

"She never goes out of the house," Noyes said in a brief telephone conversation. He said Monday night was normal, and Cass was gone when he went into her room Tuesday morning.

Noyes couldn't think of anyone she would run away with, or anyone who would abduct her.

Her stepfather's message to Cass: "Get your butt home."


Why did he go into her room Tuesday morning to look for her if she has been sleeping in the basement?  I'm sure he knew the "houseguest" had been sleeping in her room.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 12:55:08 AM
I am very concerned about her sister Kayla. I hope she is safe and is getting counseling. She was the one out knocking on doors looking for her sister and probably feels responsible because she wasn't there. I keep looking at this picture and it speaks volumes to me.

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/cel.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 04, 2011, 01:51:45 AM
Celina Cass Body being uplifted..

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Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 02:23:01 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/04/authorities_search_celina_casss_home_as_father_and_grandmother_wait_for_answers/

 ::snipping2::

Marcia Laro, Celina’s grandmother, said that the girl’s body has been returned to the family and that funeral arrangements are being made. The service will be private, she said.

“She was such a unique little girl,’’ she said. “She was adorable, lovable, trusting, happy.’’

Marcia Laro said she does not understand why Celina’s mother has not contacted her former husband since Celina vanished.

“We haven’t heard from her,’’ she said. “We’re confused.’’

On Tuesday, the day after Celina was found dead, her sister Kayla came to visit, her father said. They sat by the pond in the backyard and fished. She has held up pretty well, he said, as well as could be expected.

“She’s a strong little girl,’’ he said.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 04, 2011, 02:38:55 AM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=1106142606&sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=1106142606&sk=wall)

Interesting reading from her cousin, Kristin Cass.  Did we hear about Celina's wet clothes being found in a truck?  May be just a rumor.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 02:42:28 AM
http://www.baileyfh.net/obituary.aspx?MemberId=93224&MName=Celina%20Marie%20Cass

WEST STEWARTSTOWN – On Tuesday July 26, 2011 our lovely daughter Celina Marie Cass was taken from us.

She was born in Colebrook, NH on January 2, 2000, a daughter of Adam Laro and Louisa (Cass) Noyes.

Celina attended the Stewartstown Community School and played basketball for Canaan School. She enjoyed dancing, participating in yoga at her school, swimming and catch and release fishing.  She also enjoyed fashion and dressing up. Being with her family and friends was her greatest enjoyment; she was a Momma’s Girl.

Family members include her mother of West Stewartstown and her father of Columbia, her step-father Wendell Noyes of West Stewartstown; a sister Kayla Laro of W. Stewartstown, her brother Adam Laro of Canaan, VT, paternal grandparents Wally and Marcia Laro of Columbia; Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliot Hibbard: and many aunts, uncles and cousins.

Services are pending           

Donations maybe made in her memory to The Celina Cass Memorial Fund, c/o the Passumpic Savings Bank, PO Box 351, Lancaster, NH 03584.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 02:51:46 AM
http://mockforums.net/thread-6140-page-13.html

Celina & Kayla

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/sisters.jpg)

Nick Noyes step brother

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/NNoyes.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: ISpy on August 04, 2011, 02:55:42 AM
Following along on this one. Like everyone else, we all know that Celina wouldn't have walked anywhere after dark-early morning. We all knew this wasn't going to end well either.    4Donks- the pic you posted concerns me too.  The sister looks as if she's recoiling from the male contact, IMO. Also, thinking someone (Wendell Noyes?) planted that sexy survey on Celina's FB page two days in a row, followed by the "Celina Cass Is 100% In Love" in a lame attempt to make it appear as though she met someone online and ran away.

I am equally alarmed that Wendell Noyes told the media that Celina never goes out.  So, how does she practice for the basketball team?  One of her friend's mom told the media that Celina would sometimes come over to play and liked their animals, especially the horses.  Why would Wendell Noyes say Celina never goes out?  That, in itself, is a huge red flag.  Eleven-year-olds do have social lives...at least normal ones do.  Anything less is definitely noteworthy to LE.  In my experience, shy kids that are too afraid to even speak to someone else without seeking reassurance from a sibling, absolutely do not go out for competitive sports.  The way I'm reading it, something or someone has made Celina feel afraid in a big way.  I'm guessing that something/someone is Wendell Noyes/the company he keeps.

I'm also guessing that Kayla went to a neighbor for help because she didn't trust she'd get help at home.  Which makes me wonder if Louisa/Wendell were incapacitated on Tuesday morning (hung over, sleeping off a high, etc.).  It occurred to me that Louisa may have taken a sleeping pill (Ambien, Unisom, etc.) and would not have heard anything Monday night-Tuesday morning. Of course, drugs (voluntary or involuntary) may have also come into play. Louisa definitely knew where not to go for help and that one act screams loudly and clearly, IMO.  I pray for Kayla because I think she strongly sensed Celina needed protection.  My prayer is that she is not haunted with survivor's guilt.  I have a feeling there's soooo much more to this and Celina was the weakest link and so became the target. I also don't believe the line about Louisa's girls are everything to her. I know way too many parents who would have the child(ren) sleep in their room or on the livingroom sofa/floor before they'd ever put their children down in a Victorian basement cellar.  It's dimly lit, cold in winter, dirt or concrete pad floor, claustrophobic, dirty, "buggy", and dreary. However, the overriding number one reason not to have them sleep down there would be if the house caught on fire (and it could in an old Victorian), the children might not be able to get out. No loving mom puts her girls down in the cellar basement on an air mattress while she lives upstairs in better digs. Loving moms sacrifice whatever it takes to provide for their children, doing without for herself first.  What mom puts an eleven-year old afraid of the dark child down in the cellar basement to sleep?  Why wasn't she finding out what was making Celina so very afraid of the dark, so very afraid to trust people, so very afraid she needed to vet new people through her older sister?  That is not normal eleven-year-old behavior, by any stretch.  Why did she seem to only shine at school, away from the family?  A loving mom would have been asking herself these questions and digging for answers.  A loving mom would have been following up with both daughters periodically to see how they were adjusting to the new stepfather.

Last, and certainly not least, was Wendell's statement that he went into Celina's room Tuesday morning (the room with her computer and the inappropriate sexually-themed early morning survey entry).  I don't know about you all, but the men in our family rarely (if ever) go into a child's room to wake them...that's a Momma job.  I found that equally odd as most stay-at-home parents let the children sleep in during the summer.  If Kayla spent the night with a friend, she likely didn't get home until mid-morning to noon. Notice Wendell didn't say what time he went into Celina's room on Tuesday morning. Very few men venture into a teen/tween girl's room to wake her because at that age, girls tend to be highly sensitive about their privacy and personal space. I'm getting the distinct impression there was a serious (deadly) lack of personal boundaries here: sex-themed FB links;  "Get your butt home!"; new stepdad (9 months) making sweeping statements confirming that Celina was a very frightened child; diagnosed mental problems + alcohol abuse (per Wendell's FB); and new stepdad (9 months) with sexual proclivities waking up tween and teen girls by entering their bedroom (with an an RSO brother and uncle).
All MOO   


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: ISpy on August 04, 2011, 03:01:47 AM
Correcting my above post:
Louisa Kayla definitely knew where not to go for help...

Sorry about that!  Sleep-typing, y'know.  Calling it done for now.  'Nite all!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 04, 2011, 03:35:38 AM
After all these living arrangements discussed, we still have to know if Celina was really seen last sitting at the computer.

If she was sleeping on the basement, was the computer down there? Was the computer kept on the living room or other room she could access it?



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Southernbelle on August 04, 2011, 03:59:59 AM
Beautifully expressed, ISpy--you laid it all out so very clearly, all the things that do NOT add up and show that to call this family "dysfunctional" is like saying that Hitler wasn't the nicest guy on the block! If/when this case goes to trial, I think you should prosecute the case!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

Something horrible happened to this poor child and I agree that she absolutely did not go wandering out at night alone. Even family members stated that she was afraid of the dark. Thinking of that poor child banished to a (probably filthy) cellar gives me chills. Shows how much she was "cherished" IMHO!!!

I also wonder whether the "stepfather" and mom are actually married, not that this has any real bearing (??) on Celina's death. But I did think it odd that everyone seems to have a different last name!

And how about the bio dad? He was allegedly in the hospital when Celina went missing...but he seems oddly uninvolved in his daughters' lives. I know some people are like that, but it definitely does not "set well" with me. I'm not accusing him of being involved in whatever happened to this poor child, just saying he hardly sounds like "Father of the Year" material.

I wonder too--exactly what kind of "illness" has he been suffering? I think he said he's been in the hospital for 18 days??? Most hospitals I know kick you out after 3-4 days tops, unless you're on life support!!  ::MonkeyEek:: He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who has huge insurance benefits altho I admit I know very little about him. I dunno, it just seems very odd.

RIP, sweet Celina. Sounds like that poor child never had a chance.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 04, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
Cass Was Wrapped In Blanket When Found ::MonkeyMad::
The body of 11-year-old Celina Cass was wrapped in a blanket when she was found in the Connecticut River on Monday, a source told News 9. More
Timeline: Cass Cass | Video
(Edit-fix typo MB)

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/index.html#ixzz1U4K0yN2W


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 04, 2011, 10:05:25 AM
Ooops, can u mix....was suppose to be cass......oh boy

Fixed.  MB


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 04, 2011, 10:13:44 AM
I am very concerned about her sister Kayla. I hope she is safe and is getting counseling. She was the one out knocking on doors looking for her sister and probably feels responsible because she wasn't there. I keep looking at this picture and it speaks volumes to me.

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/cel.jpg)
::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on August 04, 2011, 10:15:23 AM
Cass Was Wrapped In Blanket When Found ::MonkeyMad::
The body of 11-year-old Celina Cass was wrapped in a blanket when she was found in the Connecticut River on Monday, a source told News 9. More
Timeline: Cass Case | Video
Edit-fix typo in pharlap's quote. MB

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/index.html#ixzz1U4K0yN2W

this is so sad.  i think she was killed in the home. is it true that wendell noyes checked into a mental health clinic yesterday?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 10:17:11 AM
The mother is a real mystery. She hides behind blankets or friends surround her in public blocking her from sight. Step dad, bio dad, aunt, boss, paternal grand parents,Step brother and neighbours have all spoken out but not the mom. Very few facts about her.
Her boss states that she put her girls ahead of everything and they are her life yet she brings a man who is bipolar with a violent history into the home and allows an ex boyfriends son who is a convicted car thief to live with them and gives him the girls room and they are moved to an air mattress in the basement. I would really like some back ground on her.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 04, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
Got real mad when I saw the article and watched the video.
Think that's why I messed 2 posts up......sry........ ::HelloKitty::


http://www.wmur.com/news/28763079/detail.html (http://www.wmur.com/news/28763079/detail.html)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 04, 2011, 10:42:34 AM
Does Wendall Noyes family have money?

Just curious because he had the newer F150 ..they aren't cheap.  He seems to be in and out of mental hospitals..not cheap..medications..not cheap.

And Louisia opens the consignment shop with the retired teacher friend..tough economic times to be opening a business where you need to pay rent on the shop each month and don't know if you will make enough to cover bills for the shop let alone pay you a salary.

Also Louisia married Wendall in Oct last year from the articles I read and then opened this shop soon after..the article on the shop was dated 12/2010.  Louisia looks happy and normal in that picture..her friend is a retired school teacher..things just don't add up to her then having someone in her life like Wendall and Kevin..and letting the girls sleep in the basement on an air mattress..one air mattress..her Dad didn't even say more then one.  Something is just really off in this picture.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Kimmy53 on August 04, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Cass Was Wrapped In Blanket When Found ::MonkeyMad::
The body of 11-year-old Celina Cass was wrapped in a blanket when she was found in the Connecticut River on Monday, a source told News 9. More
Timeline: Cass Case | Video
Edit-fixed typo in pharlap's post MB

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/index.html#ixzz1U4K0yN2W

this is so sad.  i think she was killed in the home. is it true that wendell noyes checked into a mental health clinic yesterday?

sunshine - I saw that being said on another forum, but I have no link - the discussion had no link either.  I will keep checking.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 04, 2011, 10:49:37 AM
http://www.wmur.com/news/28763079/detail.html

 ::snipping2::
The brother and mother of Cass' stepfather said he is not doing well and asked the media to leave him alone.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/28763079/detail.html#ixzz1U4UlCG1B

This is the first I think I have heard anyone from Wendall's side of the family say anything since Celina went missing..and that's what they have to say..nothing about being devastated about Celina's murder..just leave Wendall alone.  What a screwed up world Celina lived in.. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 10:50:33 AM
Copied from her Obit on the previous page.

Family members include her mother of West Stewartstown and her father of Columbia, her step-father Wendell Noyes of West Stewartstown; a sister Kayla Laro of W. Stewartstown, her brother Adam Laro of Canaan, VT, paternal grandparents Wally and Marcia Laro of Columbia; Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliot Hibbard: and many aunts, uncles and cousins.

BBM
Are these the maternal grandparents ?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 04, 2011, 11:04:00 AM
Just found this and wanted to share if anyone's interested:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423&sk=wall

Dan Cass
ANYONE WANT TO HELP TAKE UP A COLLECTION TO BAIL OUT 2 SCUMBAGS??
59 minutes ago

        Dan Cass i will gladly supply them with a ride!!
        59 minutes ago
        Jon Farrar I've been working. What two scumbags?
        26 minutes ago

Dan Cass
well wenedell knucker noyes is pleading f or insanity.I HOPE FOR YOUR SAKE U GET IT OLD FRIEND!!!!
about an hour ago

        Carey Clark I don't know him but sounds like he is insane
        52 minutes ago
        Ginny Collins well didn't we all no it would turn out this way...if he could do a crime...he can do the time..
        36 minutes ago


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 04, 2011, 11:05:52 AM
Copied from her Obit on the previous page.

Family members include her mother of West Stewartstown and her father of Columbia, her step-father Wendell Noyes of West Stewartstown; a sister Kayla Laro of W. Stewartstown, her brother Adam Laro of Canaan, VT, paternal grandparents Wally and Marcia Laro of Columbia; Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliot Hibbard: and many aunts, uncles and cousins.

BBM
Are these the maternal grandparents ?

Good morning monkey's,

4Donks,


The father George Cass died 2004, Beverly Hibbard (could be) the mother of Louisia M. Cass.

She must have been divorced from George Cass, because Beverly was not included in the Obit, if this is the Mom to LMC.

http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/state/obits/2004/coos20040310.txt (Fourth Obit from top)

George D. Cass, 62, Obit, March 5, 2004: The family of Celina Cass from the 2004 obituary.

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Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 04, 2011, 11:17:47 AM
Does Wendall Noyes family have money?

Just curious because he had the newer F150 ..they aren't cheap.  He seems to be in and out of mental hospitals..not cheap..medications..not cheap.

And Louisia opens the consignment shop with the retired teacher friend..tough economic times to be opening a business where you need to pay rent on the shop each month and don't know if you will make enough to cover bills for the shop let alone pay you a salary.

Also Louisia married Wendall in Oct last year from the articles I read and then opened this shop soon after..the article on the shop was dated 12/2010.  Louisia looks happy and normal in that picture..her friend is a retired school teacher..things just don't add up to her then having someone in her life like Wendall and Kevin..and letting the girls sleep in the basement on an air mattress..one air mattress..her Dad didn't even say more then one.  Something is just really off in this picture.


Reportly he recieved two checks: a retirement check, and a full disability check, unconfirmed. 

Did she recieve State checks, for the girls?  Did she recieve money (under the table) from the Dad?

Did the "brother" come with a check, too?  State aid?   These are speculations, you get my drift  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 04, 2011, 11:37:06 AM
http://www.baileyfh.net/obituary.aspx?MemberId=93224&MName=Celina%20Marie%20Cass

WEST STEWARTSTOWN – On Tuesday July 26, 2011 our lovely daughter Celina Marie Cass was taken from us.
She was born in Colebrook, NH on January 2, 2000, a daughter of Adam Laro and Louisa (Cass) Noyes.

Celina attended the Stewartstown Community School and played basketball for Canaan School. She enjoyed dancing, participating in yoga at her school, swimming and catch and release fishing.  She also enjoyed fashion and dressing up. Being with her family and friends was her greatest enjoyment; she was a Momma’s Girl.

Family members include her mother of West Stewartstown and her father of Columbia, her step-father Wendell Noyes of West Stewartstown; a sister Kayla Laro of W. Stewartstown, her brother Adam Laro of Canaan, VT, paternal grandparents Wally and Marcia Laro of Columbia; Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliot Hibbard: and many aunts, uncles and cousins.

Services are pending           

Donations maybe made in her memory to The Celina Cass Memorial Fund, c/o the Passumpic Savings Bank, PO Box 351, Lancaster, NH 03584.


Celina Marie was not "taken" IMO.  She does not show your face, needs privacy, yet she needs "donations".
Mom stinks, in my opinion.   :2doh:


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 04, 2011, 12:02:57 PM
Copied from her Obit on the previous page.

Family members include her mother of West Stewartstown and her father of Columbia, her step-father Wendell Noyes of West Stewartstown; a sister Kayla Laro of W. Stewartstown, her brother Adam Laro of Canaan, VT, paternal grandparents Wally and Marcia Laro of Columbia; Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliot Hibbard: and many aunts, uncles and cousins.

BBM
Are these the maternal grandparents ?

Good morning monkey's,

4Donks,


The father George Cass died 2004, Beverly Hibbard (could be) the mother of Louisia M. Cass.

She must have been divorced from George Cass, because Beverly was not included in the Obit, if this is the Mom to LMC.

http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/state/obits/2004/coos20040310.txt (Fourth Obit from top)

George D. Cass, 62, Obit, March 5, 2004: The family of Celina Cass from the 2004 obituary.

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I don't know who they are, but Beverly isn't old enough to be Louisa's mother.

Peoplesmart has Beverly J Hibbard of West Stewartstown as 52 with relatives Elliott, Justin M and Jennie A.  Elliott J is 49.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 04, 2011, 12:27:12 PM
I'm still thinking about the step father's statement during the first day of Celina's disappearance. He was quoted as saying that he saw her at her computer in her bedroom.

If she was really sleeping in the basement, was her step father referring at the basement as her bedroom, and was there a computer in the basement?

Was she in her bedroom (where there was a computer) and later was to go to the basement to sleep?

I'm not so clear on this.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 04, 2011, 12:50:08 PM
I'm still thinking about the step father's statement during the first day of Celina's disappearance. He was quoted as saying that he saw her at her computer in her bedroom.

If she was really sleeping in the basement, was her step father referring at the basement as her bedroom, and was there a computer in the basement?

Was she in her bedroom (where there was a computer) and later was to go to the basement to sleep?

I'm not so clear on this.


Great question.
Either the news people can't get to the family to ask questions or media isn't asking the right questions.
Like what door do they usually use, thinking there's 2.
Getting pictures of inside of that house.
 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 04, 2011, 12:52:11 PM
Forgot to put.
When the yellow tape was taken down, media might of been able to get pic's of inside the house.
They can't now since it's been re-tapped..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 12:53:47 PM
I'm still thinking about the step father's statement during the first day of Celina's disappearance. He was quoted as saying that he saw her at her computer in her bedroom.

If she was really sleeping in the basement, was her step father referring at the basement as her bedroom, and was there a computer in the basement?

Was she in her bedroom (where there was a computer) and later was to go to the basement to sleep?

I'm not so clear on this.



It is confusing.Some reports are saying home computer which would mean the one and only and probably located centrally for everyone. If they only had an air mattress in the basement I don't see a computer down there. Then if her sister isn't there she sleeps on the sofa so she would be noticed missing by mom before she went to work. It just gets weirder as more info comes out.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 04, 2011, 01:11:44 PM
4 Donks diffidently a house of cards, which I think are going to be falling down soon..
 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 01:29:23 PM
I wish I could find the article again but Debbie Whalen gave an interview and said when Kayla came to her place looking for Celina she went over to the Noyes' place and mom and step dad were there. Mom was upset and when Debbie found out that no one had seen her since 9 PM she immediately called the police.
Was Kayla the only one looking and when if ever would mom have called LE.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Kimmy53 on August 04, 2011, 01:46:17 PM
There is SO much that isn't clear, that hasn't come out...I have so many questions... With LE being very tight lipped, I feel they are building their case.

I also believe they have a cause of death...just because they said the autopsy was not conclusive doesn't mean they don't know something. Perhaps they suspect something else - as far as drugging etc. and want to wait for toxicology.... I do know that the divers saw enough to convince them it was suspicious.  They said by the condition of the body they could tell.. The body was wrapped in a blanket. They had to have looked in that blanket to see the body.  Then it took 5 hours to bring it to the surface. 

I hope the blanket kept some evidence in place.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 04, 2011, 03:01:28 PM
Just found this and wanted to share if anyone's interested:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423&sk=wall

Dan Cass
ANYONE WANT TO HELP TAKE UP A COLLECTION TO BAIL OUT 2 SCUMBAGS??
59 minutes ago

        Dan Cass i will gladly supply them with a ride!!
        59 minutes ago
        Jon Farrar I've been working. What two scumbags?
        26 minutes ago

Dan Cass
well wenedell knucker noyes is pleading f or insanity.I HOPE FOR YOUR SAKE U GET IT OLD FRIEND!!!!
about an hour ago

        Carey Clark I don't know him but sounds like he is insane
        52 minutes ago
        Ginny Collins well didn't we all no it would turn out this way...if he could do a crime...he can do the time..
        36 minutes ago

Did I miss something today?  Two scumbags were arrested?  Sounds like they want to bail them out and deal with it in their own way...so who was arrested?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 03:10:15 PM
I wish I could find the article again but Debbie Whalen gave an interview and said when Kayla came to her place looking for Celina she went over to the Noyes' place and mom and step dad were there. Mom was upset and when Debbie found out that no one had seen her since 9 PM she immediately called the police.
Was Kayla the only one looking and when if ever would mom have called LE.

Found The article.

http://www.aninchfrommurder.com/blog/

 ::snipping2::

Celina was last seen around 9 p.m. July 25. Debbie Baglio, who lives steps from Celina’s home, told the Herald yesterday she called police to report Celina missing the next morning after Celina’s older sister, Kayla, 13, came knocking to ask whether she’d seen the girl.

Baglio said she rushed to Celina’s home to find that the family had not reported the disappearance.

“I don’t know why they didn’t,” said Baglio, who has three daughters about Celina’s age. Celina’s mother, Louisa Noyes, “was hysterical” over the girl’s disappearance, Baglio said.

“I barely got out of her that they hadn’t seen her since 9 o’clock,” she said.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 04, 2011, 03:57:59 PM
Just found this and wanted to share if anyone's interested:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423&sk=wall

Dan Cass
ANYONE WANT TO HELP TAKE UP A COLLECTION TO BAIL OUT 2 SCUMBAGS??
59 minutes ago

        Dan Cass i will gladly supply them with a ride!!
        59 minutes ago
        Jon Farrar I've been working. What two scumbags?
        26 minutes ago

Dan Cass
well wenedell knucker noyes is pleading f or insanity.I HOPE FOR YOUR SAKE U GET IT OLD FRIEND!!!!
about an hour ago

        Carey Clark I don't know him but sounds like he is insane
        52 minutes ago
        Ginny Collins well didn't we all no it would turn out this way...if he could do a crime...he can do the time..
        36 minutes ago

Did I miss something today?  Two scumbags were arrested?  Sounds like they want to bail them out and deal with it in their own way...so who was arrested?

When I first read that this morning, I thought what the heck.  How'd we miss that.  Then, I kept reading and figured that this cousin of Celina's (who it sounds like, has never met her), has decided who killed Celina.  It was weird to read all his *stuff*, but I thought some of the monkeys might be interested.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: ScareyCarrie on August 04, 2011, 04:25:41 PM
Does Wendall Noyes family have money?

Just curious because he had the newer F150 ..they aren't cheap.  He seems to be in and out of mental hospitals..not cheap..medications..not cheap.

And Louisia opens the consignment shop with the retired teacher friend..tough economic times to be opening a business where you need to pay rent on the shop each month and don't know if you will make enough to cover bills for the shop let alone pay you a salary.

Also Louisia married Wendall in Oct last year from the articles I read and then opened this shop soon after..the article on the shop was dated 12/2010.  Louisia looks happy and normal in that picture..her friend is a retired school teacher..things just don't add up to her then having someone in her life like Wendall and Kevin..and letting the girls sleep in the basement on an air mattress..one air mattress..her Dad didn't even say more then one.  Something is just really off in this picture.


Reportly he recieved two checks: a retirement check, and a full disability check, unconfirmed. 

Did she recieve State checks, for the girls?  Did she recieve money (under the table) from the Dad?

Did the "brother" come with a check, too?  State aid?   These are speculations, you get my drift  ::MonkeyHaHa::


I wonder if she might be mentally diasabled? if so would she receive diasability or whatever they are called checks from the state also?

there are many means of income also that are not spoken of, like with the father stating that there were so many ppl coming and going, drug sales? maybe WN sells his pres. pills....any number of things....

not that u hadnt thought of these just throwing them around....

could also be one of the reasons mom hides her face...maybe shaddy dealings....


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 04, 2011, 04:26:01 PM
Just found this and wanted to share if anyone's interested:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423&sk=wall

Dan Cass
ANYONE WANT TO HELP TAKE UP A COLLECTION TO BAIL OUT 2 SCUMBAGS??
59 minutes ago

        Dan Cass i will gladly supply them with a ride!!
        59 minutes ago
        Jon Farrar I've been working. What two scumbags?
        26 minutes ago

Dan Cass
well wenedell knucker noyes is pleading f or insanity.I HOPE FOR YOUR SAKE U GET IT OLD FRIEND!!!!
about an hour ago

        Carey Clark I don't know him but sounds like he is insane
        52 minutes ago
        Ginny Collins well didn't we all no it would turn out this way...if he could do a crime...he can do the time..
        36 minutes ago

Did I miss something today?  Two scumbags were arrested?  Sounds like they want to bail them out and deal with it in their own way...so who was arrested?

When I first read that this morning, I thought what the heck.  How'd we miss that.  Then, I kept reading and figured that this cousin of Celina's (who it sounds like, has never met her), has decided who killed Celina.  It was weird to read all his *stuff*, but I thought some of the monkeys might be interested.   ::MonkeyEek::

Tks... ::HelloKitty::  I bookmarked the page.
I have no clue there were 2 till I read that.
There's move players then you can shake a stick at. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 04, 2011, 04:44:18 PM
I read that this morning also.  Sounds like he's just spouting off even though he says he never met Celina.  He also said in an earlier post that she has "Cass blood" and something like she is a survivor.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: littleone on August 04, 2011, 04:47:49 PM
Just wanted to slip in and apologize about my post yesterday!! This is a terrible world that we live in, and it is wonderful that "monkeys" from all over the world meet here to help those families who have lost their little ones. My post yesterday was only coming from the hurt for Celina and the little ones who don't have the family life that they deserve. (hugs)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 04, 2011, 05:04:19 PM
Here is the Facebook age for the Lads and Ladies Consignment Shop where Luisia worked.  What do you make of the 8th post down where someone wants to know if they still need someone to look after their little ones?  Also read the answers.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lads-and-Ladybugs-Consignment-Shop/187658797947913 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lads-and-Ladybugs-Consignment-Shop/187658797947913)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 04, 2011, 05:05:18 PM
Just wanted to slip in and apologize about my post yesterday!! This is a terrible world that we live in, and it is wonderful that "monkeys" from all over the world meet here to help those families who have lost their little ones. My post yesterday was only coming from the hurt for Celina and the little ones who don't have the family life that they deserve. (hugs)

I'm sure everyone understands that littleone.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 04, 2011, 05:07:37 PM
Just wanted to slip in and apologize about my post yesterday!! This is a terrible world that we live in, and it is wonderful that "monkeys" from all over the world meet here to help those families who have lost their little ones. My post yesterday was only coming from the hurt for Celina and the little ones who don't have the family life that they deserve. (hugs)
:smt056  I know what you mean.  It hurts our hearts.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 04, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
Does anyone know if this if a two story apartment rental?  If I understand correctly Celina and her family live on the first floor.  The apartment on the second floor was vacated by a woman who said in a t.v. interview that she had just moved three weeks earlier.  She said maybe if she hadn't moved she would have heard something.

If that is so, then the second floor would be empty.  Then on the first floor, with Kaylee not at home and at a friend's house and Louisia at work, who is left in the house.  Stepdad, Celina and half brother.  Am I right here or am I missing someone or something?




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 05:22:45 PM
I thought LC was an owner of the consignment shop but apparently was an employee. Nothing about these people is straight forward.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 04, 2011, 05:24:07 PM
Does anyone know if this if a two story apartment rental?  If I understand correctly Celina and her family live on the first floor.  The apartment on the second floor was vacated by a woman who said in a t.v. interview that she had just moved three weeks earlier.  She said maybe if she hadn't moved she would have heard something.

If that is so, then the second floor would be empty.  Then on the first floor, with Kaylee not at home and at a friend's house and Louisia at work, who is left in the house.  Stepdad, Celina and half brother.  Am I right here or am I missing someone or something?

That's what I figure, too.  Except, we don't know if Kevin M. *was* there or not, that night.  We sure don't have much info on that night, do we?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 05:26:47 PM
Does anyone know if this if a two story apartment rental?  If I understand correctly Celina and her family live on the first floor.  The apartment on the second floor was vacated by a woman who said in a t.v. interview that she had just moved three weeks earlier.  She said maybe if she hadn't moved she would have heard something.

If that is so, then the second floor would be empty.  Then on the first floor, with Kaylee not at home and at a friend's house and Louisia at work, who is left in the house.  Stepdad, Celina and half brother.  Am I right here or am I missing someone or something?




The store that mom works at opens at 9:30 so mom would have been there most of the time.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: alagary on August 04, 2011, 05:37:01 PM
When thinking about sleeping in the cellar,maybe becaue it was cooler, didn't see any AC units.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 04, 2011, 05:56:38 PM
I thought LC was an owner of the consignment shop but apparently was an employee. Nothing about these people is straight forward.

Bingo and why is that....... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 04, 2011, 06:22:18 PM
I have really become jaded. If the neighbour hadn't called the police I'm wondering when the parents would have called (31 days keeps playing in my mind)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: darla on August 04, 2011, 06:53:05 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest.

Something was bugging me about Celina's obit so I called the funeral home and asked when her obit was posted to their website site. The lady says she has no way of knowing. There are three people listed after hers. The last one added, died on July 30th. Celina was not found til Monday right? Is there a local on here that would have any information on this? Thanks in advance. Just wondering if this was posted before her lil body was found.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 04, 2011, 07:14:45 PM
Celina Cass’ grandfather demands justice: ‘I don’t want no Casey Anthony’..
Snipped

STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. — The grief-stricken grandfather of 11-year-old Celina Cass is pleading for police to solve the girl’s suspicious death and not leave loved ones grasping for answers like they are in Florida’s Casey Anthony case.

“I just hope justice is brought and whoever’s responsible gets the max because that little girl didn’t deserve that,” Wally Laro told the Herald yesterday. “I don’t want no Casey Anthony.”

Casey Anthony, 25, is on probation in Florida after being acquitted of murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, in a verdict that sparked outrage nationwide.

Investigators yesterday pored over Celina’s home in this north country hamlet for most of the day — seizing a late-model silver Ford F150 pickup. Law enforcement officials said the truck belongs to Wendell Noyes, Celina’s stepfather. Noyes has been involuntarily committed for paranoid schizophrenia in the past and was arrested in 2003 for breaking into an ex-girlfriend’s home and threatening to throw her down the stairs.

Laro of nearby Colebrook, N.H., said “rumors and speculation” abound, but he has faith that detectives who found his granddaughter will find out how she died.

“They brought an army up here to search for her. And I believe they will get to the bottom of this, because something’s wrong,” he said outside his home.

Last week a red pickup truck driven by a man who had moved in with the family was also hauled away by police.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356257&format=text


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 04, 2011, 07:26:20 PM
Cass Was Wrapped In Blanket When Found .. Video.
Looks Like Cellina's body was placed in the water..
Home is still taped off..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_HZzVFkmVM&feature=player_embedded

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/CelinaCass.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 04, 2011, 07:38:46 PM
Investigation Continues In Girl's Death ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_tCYOekFMw&feature=player_embedded

Investigators seen by Rail Road bridge..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Railroadbridge.jpg)






Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 04, 2011, 09:30:30 PM
Just wanted to slip in and apologize about my post yesterday!! This is a terrible world that we live in, and it is wonderful that "monkeys" from all over the world meet here to help those families who have lost their little ones. My post yesterday was only coming from the hurt for Celina and the little ones who don't have the family life that they deserve. (hugs)

Hugs...we all have the same heart I think....




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 04, 2011, 09:33:48 PM
Do you think that Celina and Kayla were sent to the basement and that Kevin? Kid was given their bedroom cause he was paying the mom and step dad rent to have the room?otherwise, why else would the girls have to give up their room for him?..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 04, 2011, 09:41:38 PM
Do you think that Celina and Kayla were sent to the basement and that Kevin? Kid was given their bedroom cause he was paying the mom and step dad rent to have the room?otherwise, why else would the girls have to give up their room for him?..


I read somewhere that Louisia and stepdad were on the top floor, Kevin was right below them and then Celina and Kayla were in the basement.  What?  Was she separating the two girls from the pervert?  Nice way to do it by putting a 23 year old right above them.  The whole situation is crazy.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 04, 2011, 10:55:16 PM
Does anyone know if this if a two story apartment rental?  If I understand correctly Celina and her family live on the first floor.  The apartment on the second floor was vacated by a woman who said in a t.v. interview that she had just moved three weeks earlier.  She said maybe if she hadn't moved she would have heard something.

If that is so, then the second floor would be empty.  Then on the first floor, with Kaylee not at home and at a friend's house and Louisia at work, who is left in the house.  Stepdad, Celina and half brother.  Am I right here or am I missing someone or something?




The pics I saw of the building ..the second floor is big and may have 2 apartments..because I saw a For Rent Sign over a window on only one side of the second floor, with no curtains ..the other side of that floor showed a window and it looked like it had curtains in the window, and no For Rent sign.

If what took place in the house happened in the basement..I doubt with as sturdy and solid as those old buildings were anyone on the second or third floor heard a thing.  The building from the exterior, does not look like it is in that good of shape cosmetically..but I bet those old walls are still solid.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 04, 2011, 10:59:12 PM
Does anyone know if this if a two story apartment rental?  If I understand correctly Celina and her family live on the first floor.  The apartment on the second floor was vacated by a woman who said in a t.v. interview that she had just moved three weeks earlier.  She said maybe if she hadn't moved she would have heard something.

If that is so, then the second floor would be empty.  Then on the first floor, with Kaylee not at home and at a friend's house and Louisia at work, who is left in the house.  Stepdad, Celina and half brother.  Am I right here or am I missing someone or something?

That's what I figure, too.  Except, we don't know if Kevin M. *was* there or not, that night.  We sure don't have much info on that night, do we?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Doesn't the house list 9 bedrooms..which is about right for it's size.  I am thinking each floor was an apartment or 2 apartments..and it is 3 floors plus the basement from what they showed on TV.  Any owner renting it would have converted the third floor to rental space..and that is the only way this house would have had 9 bedrooms.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 04, 2011, 11:08:11 PM
What I am trying to say is ..I thin that Celina and her family rented/occupied the first floor and basement.  I think the second and third floor where also rented by to other families...and they each could have been separate apartments.  Meaning two second floor apartments and two third floor apartments..or all one....We can not tell this without a floorplan and none is listed anywhere that I could find of this house.

What bother's me abut the basement is that I wonder how many residents of that building had access to it/  I have lived while in my early 20's in old Victorian homes where I had an apartment..ususally the basement held the washer and dryer units that everyone shared..no living space..but a space everyone had access to..I really hope that isn't the case with Celina and her sister..but is more the norm for these old buildings in my area.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 05, 2011, 01:44:29 AM
Heart woes plague father as plans for Cass funeral finalized.

Snipped..

Celina will be placed in a pink casket, and her body will be cremated, said Marcia Laro

A crime-scene photographer yesterday snapped pictures of Celina’s home, a multi-family house that Robbie Kimball, the owner of nearby Wayne’s Lanes and Jo’s Grill, called “a party stable.”

“They had people that were in and out of there all the time,” Kimball said. “It was the get-together hangout.”

Floyd Richardson of Somerville, who is listed as a co-owner of the home, disputed that take.

“It’s a nice, quiet house,” he said. “The inside’s beautiful, the outside’s a mess.”

Natasha Newell, who works with Cel-- ina’s mother, Louisa Noyes, said other relatives, including Louisa’s ex-boyfriend’s son, her sister and her aunt, also lived in the house. It was sealed with crime-scene tape after Celina’s disappearance, reopened Saturday, then sealed once again after her body was found.


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0805heart_woes_plague_father_as_plans_for_cass_funeral_finalized/srvc=home&position=also


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 05, 2011, 01:48:28 AM
snipped..

Cass’s image stood out because of her tall, 5-foot-5 frame and her snaggle-toothed smile. Marcia Laro said Celina’s teeth went askew three or four years ago, when friends horsing around accidentally pulled a string that was attached to her front tooth. Celina was set to have braces put on this week, she said.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?&articleid=1356518&format=&page=1&listingType=Loc#articleFull


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 05, 2011, 01:53:08 AM
Child’s loss shatters peace in small town..

We’re part of the real world now,” Debbie Baglio told me yesterday, a hollow echo of resignation in her voice.

Everything Debbie hoped to avoid 10 years ago when she moved her family to a tiny New Hampshire town hard by the Canadian border has caught up with her and her family.

Police cordoned off the house next door. Investigators have lugged out evidence bags for the last 48 hours. A caravan of TV trucks, along with some 200 reporters, has camped outside Debbie’s door for the past week.

continued..

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/2011_0805childs_loss_shatters_peace_in_small_town/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 05, 2011, 06:11:00 AM
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20110805nh_town_to_dedicate_annual_fair_to_celina_cass/srvc=home&position=recent
N.H. town to dedicate annual fair to Celina Cass
By Associated Press
Friday, August 5, 2011 - Added 8 minutes ago

STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. — Despite the sadness over the death of an 11-year-old northern New Hampshire girl, the small town that knew her is going ahead with plans to hold an annual summer fair.

The 35th annual Stewartstown Day is starting Friday. It’s being held in a small town park that had been the scene of candlelight vigils during the week-long search for Celina Cass.

This year’s fair is being dedicated to Celina at an opening ceremony at 7 p.m.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 08:15:27 AM
Does Wendall Noyes family have money?

Just curious because he had the newer F150 ..they aren't cheap.  He seems to be in and out of mental hospitals..not cheap..medications..not cheap.

And Louisia opens the consignment shop with the retired teacher friend..tough economic times to be opening a business where you need to pay rent on the shop each month and don't know if you will make enough to cover bills for the shop let alone pay you a salary.

Also Louisia married Wendall in Oct last year from the articles I read and then opened this shop soon after..the article on the shop was dated 12/2010.  Louisia looks happy and normal in that picture..her friend is a retired school teacher..things just don't add up to her then having someone in her life like Wendall and Kevin..and letting the girls sleep in the basement on an air mattress..one air mattress..her Dad didn't even say more then one.  Something is just really off in this picture.


Reportly he recieved two checks: a retirement check, and a full disability check, unconfirmed. 

Did she recieve State checks, for the girls?  Did she recieve money (under the table) from the Dad?

Did the "brother" come with a check, too?  State aid?   These are speculations, you get my drift  ::MonkeyHaHa::


I wonder if she might be mentally diasabled? if so would she receive diasability or whatever they are called checks from the state also?

there are many means of income also that are not spoken of, like with the father stating that there were so many ppl coming and going, drug sales? maybe WN sells his pres. pills....any number of things....

not that u hadnt thought of these just throwing them around....

could also be one of the reasons mom hides her face...maybe shaddy dealings....

Good morning Monkey's,

Scarey Carrie, I would say Sneaky :)   

She has not thanked the searchers, for anything, we really want to know why. 

We monkeys are good hearted and know, if anyone saved or found anyone, that we cared about, I believe we would offer sincere thanks.

sneaky, sneaky, sneaky...is my opinion...but, why?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 08:20:23 AM
The mother is a real mystery. She hides behind blankets or friends surround her in public blocking her from sight. Step dad, bio dad, aunt, boss, paternal grand parents,Step brother and neighbours have all spoken out but not the mom. Very few facts about her.
Her boss states that she put her girls ahead of everything and they are her life yet she brings a man who is bipolar with a violent history into the home and allows an ex boyfriends son who is a convicted car thief to live with them and gives him the girls room and they are moved to an air mattress in the basement. I would really like some back ground on her.

How about "oversexed" is what she brought into the house.  What was this place an orgie?  I want to know what was going on
with people coming and going in this party house?  Questions and opinions are mine.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 05, 2011, 08:21:49 AM
Child’s loss shatters peace in small town..

We’re part of the real world now,” Debbie Baglio told me yesterday, a hollow echo of resignation in her voice.

Everything Debbie hoped to avoid 10 years ago when she moved her family to a tiny New Hampshire town hard by the Canadian border has caught up with her and her family.

Police cordoned off the house next door. Investigators have lugged out evidence bags for the last 48 hours. A caravan of TV trucks, along with some 200 reporters, has camped outside Debbie’s door for the past week.

continued..

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view/2011_0805childs_loss_shatters_peace_in_small_town/

Which house are they talking about.
Address, pic's, owners name of the house.
Like who lives there.
 ::MonkeyEek::
Whoever wrote this article, get's a "D" from me.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 05, 2011, 08:24:11 AM
morning monkeys,ive dont have time to read it yet,so i dont know whats up,saw the vid
update #8,as always The Colebrook Chronicle, show more than the mainstream news
source, The Colebrook Chronicle have a facebook too.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Colebrook-Chronicle/169865517777


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 08:28:46 AM
Heart woes plague father as plans for Cass funeral finalized.

Snipped..

Celina will be placed in a pink casket, and her body will be cremated, said Marcia Laro

A crime-scene photographer yesterday snapped pictures of Celina’s home, a multi-family house that Robbie Kimball, the owner of nearby Wayne’s Lanes and Jo’s Grill, called “a party stable.”

“They had people that were in and out of there all the time,” Kimball said. “It was the get-together hangout.”

Floyd Richardson of Somerville, who is listed as a co-owner of the home, disputed that take.

“It’s a nice, quiet house,” he said. “The inside’s beautiful, the outside’s a mess.”

Natasha Newell, who works with Cel-- ina’s mother, Louisa Noyes, said other relatives, including Louisa’s ex-boyfriend’s son, her sister and her aunt, also lived in the house. It was sealed with crime-scene tape after Celina’s disappearance, reopened Saturday, then sealed once again after her body was found.


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0805heart_woes_plague_father_as_plans_for_cass_funeral_finalized/srvc=home&position=also



Natasha Newell, who works with Cel-- ina’s mother, Louisa Noyes, said other relatives, including Louisa’s ex-boyfriend’s son, her sister and her aunt, also lived in the house. It was sealed with crime-scene tape after Celina’s disappearance, reopened Saturday, then sealed once again after her body was found.


Jersey,

Thank-you for posting mom's photo over on celina's thread "photos and social media" it is the ONLY photo we have of this mysterious woman,
Who was the aunt?  What is the address of the house, please?  TIA


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2011, 08:42:48 AM
morning monkeys,ive dont have time to read it yet,so i dont know whats up,saw the vid
update #8,as always The Colebrook Chronicle, show more than the mainstream news
source, The Colebrook Chronicle have a facebook too.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Colebrook-Chronicle/169865517777

Here is that Colebrook Chronicle video news of this week:



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 09:57:47 AM
I recall seeing a posting that states that Kevin slept in the same room with the girls...it seemed to be a late night post, I was tired and didn't respond...I have searched but cannot find it...anyone else remember that?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Kimmy53 on August 05, 2011, 10:45:31 AM
Heart woes plague father as plans for Cass funeral finalized.

Snipped..

Celina will be placed in a pink casket, and her body will be cremated, said Marcia Laro

A crime-scene photographer yesterday snapped pictures of Celina’s home, a multi-family house that Robbie Kimball, the owner of nearby Wayne’s Lanes and Jo’s Grill, called “a party stable.”

“They had people that were in and out of there all the time,” Kimball said. “It was the get-together hangout.”

Floyd Richardson of Somerville, who is listed as a co-owner of the home, disputed that take.

“It’s a nice, quiet house,” he said. “The inside’s beautiful, the outside’s a mess.”
Natasha Newell, who works with Cel-- ina’s mother, Louisa Noyes, said other relatives, including Louisa’s ex-boyfriend’s son, her sister and her aunt, also lived in the house. It was sealed with crime-scene tape after Celina’s disappearance, reopened Saturday, then sealed once again after her body was found.


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0805heart_woes_plague_father_as_plans_for_cass_funeral_finalized/srvc=home&position=also

BBM
People in and out all the time?  Sounds like perhaps something hinky - possibly drugs.  Someone mentioned a page or so back that perhaps WN was selling his prescription pills.  This goes on alot more than some may realize.  Some of these drugs, depending on what they are can be sold for several dollars a pill.  Alot of money can be made.

Of course the landlord would say differently.  He's trying to save face.

I am hoping someone in this small community will or has come forward with information leading to Celina's killer -  So Sad.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 05, 2011, 11:05:30 AM
today is a busy day for me,im trying to catch the updates here and get
my stuff done too,maybe some of the stuff that was read and you cant
remember where, could be in these links
local news links,first link is a celina cass search pg,then the home pg

Concord Monitor
http://www.concordmonitor.com/search/all/celina%2Bcass
http://www.concordmonitor.com/

the Nashua Telegraph/with vids
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/search?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lijit.com%2Fusers%2Fnashuatelegraph&p=g&blog_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nashuatelegraph.com%2F&blog_platform=&view_id=&link_id=25121&flavor=&lijit_q=celina cass
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/

Union Leader
http://www.unionleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/search
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110804/NEWS03/708049971

i posted this in documents
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11903.msg1458203#msg1458203
Obituaries pg 16  for celina
http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
Thanks cw618


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 11:30:25 AM
Kevin Mullvaney's Facebook wall is down.  I could swear it was up before.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 05, 2011, 11:38:24 AM
Quote
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11868.msg1456203#msg1456203

« Reply #593 on: August 02, 2011, 12:06:30 AM »
Jerseygirl345
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

863 Washington St
STEWARTSTOWN, NH 03576

Bedrooms:   9
Bathrooms:   4
Sqft:   4,770
Lot size:   8,712 sq ft / 0.20 acres
Property type:   Multi Family
Year built:   1920
This 4770 square foot multi family home has 9 bedrooms and 4.0 bathrooms.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/863-Washington-St-Stewartstown-NH-03576/99274672_zpid/


i read that a lot of people went in and out of that house,im thinking per jerseygirl post
that 4 baths is 4 apt,and prob 3apt with 2 bedr,and 1apt with 3 bedr,and an average of 3-4
people to an apt,and taking the highest count would be 12 people in the building,then add
in visitors,per apt any given day,it prob would seem like a busy place
 

labubske YW


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 11:45:39 AM
Kevin Mullvaney's Facebook wall is down.  I could swear it was up before.
Oh, wow!  I looked late last night, and it was still up ~


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 11:45:44 AM
Heart woes plague father as plans for Cass funeral finalized.

Snipped..

Celina will be placed in a pink casket, and her body will be cremated, said Marcia Laro

A crime-scene photographer yesterday snapped pictures of Celina’s home, a multi-family house that Robbie Kimball, the owner of nearby Wayne’s Lanes and Jo’s Grill, called “a party stable.”

“They had people that were in and out of there all the time,” Kimball said. “It was the get-together hangout.”

Floyd Richardson of Somerville, who is listed as a co-owner of the home, disputed that take.

“It’s a nice, quiet house,” he said. “The inside’s beautiful, the outside’s a mess.”
Natasha Newell, who works with Cel-- ina’s mother, Louisa Noyes, said other relatives, including Louisa’s ex-boyfriend’s son, her sister and her aunt, also lived in the house. It was sealed with crime-scene tape after Celina’s disappearance, reopened Saturday, then sealed once again after her body was found.


http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0805heart_woes_plague_father_as_plans_for_cass_funeral_finalized/srvc=home&position=also

BBM
People in and out all the time?  Sounds like perhaps something hinky - possibly drugs.  Someone mentioned a page or so back that perhaps WN was selling his prescription pills.  This goes on alot more than some may realize.  Some of these drugs, depending on what they are can be sold for several dollars a pill.  Alot of money can be made.

Of course the landlord would say differently.  He's trying to save face.

I am hoping someone in this small community will or has come forward with information leading to Celina's killer -  So Sad.

Perhaps he recieved free prescriptions? 

Supposedly, he is on "full disability" - if he was recieving free meds, no sweat selling off P.D......

I Wonder why mom will not show her face?  We have not heard the voice of mom, not even a phone interview.

Thankfully,  Jerseygirl posted a photo with a clear front-view of mom's face.  I have ever heard that the victim's mother who

wants "absolute privacy"  why?

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 05, 2011, 11:46:20 AM
Thanks cw618

Tks...... ::MonkeyWink:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 11:47:11 AM
Kevin Mullvaney's Facebook wall is down.  I could swear it was up before.
Oh, wow!  I looked late last night, and it was still up ~

Okay, I just checked and it comes up.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001374219262


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 11:47:24 AM
Kevin Mullvaney's Facebook wall is down.  I could swear it was up before.
Oh, wow!  I looked late last night, and it was still up ~

 Did he take it down?  Was it taken down by someone else?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 11:50:33 AM
Kevin Mullvaney's Facebook wall is down.  I could swear it was up before.
Oh, wow!  I looked late last night, and it was still up ~

 Did he take it down?  Was it taken down by someone else?
Still up.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001374219262


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 12:15:30 PM
Kevin Mullvaney's Facebook wall is down.  I could swear it was up before.
Oh, wow!  I looked late last night, and it was still up ~

 Did he take it down?  Was it taken down by someone else?
Still up.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001374219262

It's up but it's just his Info and Friends.  The Wall has been removed.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 12:16:20 PM
Sorry I posted in your quote.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 12:18:45 PM
I don't remember ever seeing his wall up for us monkeys to evaluate.  ha.
Seriously, I know Tyler Noyes and Dan Cass had theirs up, 'cause I like to peruse what comments are being made, but I could almost swear Kevin didn't have his open.  Beats me.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
Quote
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11868.msg1456203#msg1456203

« Reply #593 on: August 02, 2011, 12:06:30 AM »
Jerseygirl345
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

863 Washington St
STEWARTSTOWN, NH 03576

Bedrooms:   9
Bathrooms:   4
Sqft:   4,770
Lot size:   8,712 sq ft / 0.20 acres
Property type:   Multi Family
Year built:   1920
This 4770 square foot multi family home has 9 bedrooms and 4.0 bathrooms.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/863-Washington-St-Stewartstown-NH-03576/99274672_zpid/


i read that a lot of people went in and out of that house,im thinking per jerseygirl post
that 4 baths is 4 apt,and prob 3apt with 2 bedr,and 1apt with 3 bedr,and an average of 3-4
people to an apt,and taking the highest count would be 12 people in the building,then add
in visitors,per apt any given day,it prob would seem like a busy place
 

labubske YW
[/quote]

www.411.com  "Reverse Address" 
Three people listed.  Who is Jonathan M.?  Is he an associate or a new tenant?
Crystal McKearney is she the sister or the Aunt, or assoicate :)

- Jonathan Marchand, -W Noyes- Crystal McKearney

http://www.411.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=863+washington+avenue&where=Stewartstown%2C+NH





Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 12:34:41 PM
I don't remember ever seeing his wall up for us monkeys to evaluate.  ha.
Seriously, I know Tyler Noyes and Dan Cass had theirs up, 'cause I like to peruse what comments are being made, but I could almost swear Kevin didn't have his open.  Beats me.   ::MonkeyEek::

I'm probably wrong.  This clan mixes me up.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 12:41:03 PM
Quote
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11868.msg1456203#msg1456203

« Reply #593 on: August 02, 2011, 12:06:30 AM »
Jerseygirl345
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

863 Washington St
STEWARTSTOWN, NH 03576

Bedrooms:   9
Bathrooms:   4
Sqft:   4,770
Lot size:   8,712 sq ft / 0.20 acres
Property type:   Multi Family
Year built:   1920
This 4770 square foot multi family home has 9 bedrooms and 4.0 bathrooms.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/863-Washington-St-Stewartstown-NH-03576/99274672_zpid/


i read that a lot of people went in and out of that house,im thinking per jerseygirl post
that 4 baths is 4 apt,and prob 3apt with 2 bedr,and 1apt with 3 bedr,and an average of 3-4
people to an apt,and taking the highest count would be 12 people in the building,then add
in visitors,per apt any given day,it prob would seem like a busy place
 

labubske YW
[/quote]

www.411.com  "Reverse Address" 
Three people listed.  Who is Jonathan M.?  Is he an associate or a new tenant?
Crystal McKearney is she the sister or the Aunt, or assoicate :)

- Jonathan Marchand- W Noyes

- ]Crystal McKearney

http://www.411.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=863+washington+avenue&where=Stewartstown%2C+NH






http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1259&bih=592&q=jonathan+marchand%2C+stewardstown%2C+NH&btnG=Search&oq=jonathan+marchand%2C+stewardstown%2C+NH&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=11421l21687l0l24390l35l35l0l22l0l0l172l1765l1.12l13l0

I found an Myspace associated with Jonathan Marchand - who was listed on 411.com reverse address finder.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Dan Wallace (WALLACE) on Myspace
Jonathan Marchand .... I live in the backcountry of Stewartstown NH. ... Stewartstown, New Hampshire US; Skidder Operator/ Cutter ...


://www.myspace.com/nhsledneck


PS: careful a new trojan horse virsus is out...please, keep that in mind - I had the virus and I have the virus number.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 12:41:10 PM

www.411.com [/color] "Reverse Address" 
Three people listed.  Who is Jonathan M.?  Is he an associate or a new tenant?
Crystal McKearney is she the sister or the Aunt, or assoicate :)

- Jonathan Marchand, -W Noyes- Crystal McKearney

http://www.411.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=863+washington+avenue&where=Stewartstown%2C+NH


Isn't Crystal McKearney the daughter of Lori Lea Cass McKearney?  I think she's about 28 or 28 years.  Gosh, I hope I'm not confusing everyone.......just trying to remember.   sigh.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 12:42:38 PM
28 or 29 years.  losing my mind with all these names.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 01:06:53 PM
28 or 29 years.  losing my mind with all these names.


Hey TCUmom,

Please do not hate me, reference point to 2004 Obit for George Cass' George D. Cass. :)

 Lori Kearney and Louisia Cass are sisters.  Crystal would be Lori's daughter?  How old is Lori (Cass) Kearney?

March 6, 2004
George D. Cass, 62, of Powder Hill Drive, died suddenly at (Lancaster0
his home on Saturday morning, March 6, 2004.
 ::snipping2::
     Family members include three sons, Del Cass and his wife Joy of
Jefferson, Donny Cass of Whitefield, Wayne Reed Sr. and his wife Valerie of
Jefferson; two daughters, Lori McKearney of Lancaster, Louisia Cass of West
Stewartstown; his mother, Ernestine (Cass) Blanchard of Whitefield; a
sister, Joyce Dupont of Lancaster; thirteen grandchildren; and one
great-granddaughter.
 ::snipping2::

Who is Wayne Reed, Sr....does any Monkey know, where or how he is a son to George?  Where is he?   ::MonkeyTongue::

     http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/state/obits/2004/coos20040310.txt


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 05, 2011, 01:10:53 PM

www.411.com [/color] "Reverse Address" 
Three people listed.  Who is Jonathan M.?  Is he an associate or a new tenant?
Crystal McKearney is she the sister or the Aunt, or assoicate :)

- Jonathan Marchand, -W Noyes- Crystal McKearney

http://www.411.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=863+washington+avenue&where=Stewartstown%2C+NH


Isn't Crystal McKearney the daughter of Lori Lea Cass McKearney?  I think she's about 28 or 28 years.  Gosh, I hope I'm not confusing everyone.......just trying to remember.   sigh.

not sure about the McKearney,but the Marchand name i saw here
http://www4.egov.nh.gov/nsor/Display.aspx?offenderID=2664

and j Marchand,and c McKearney are listed else where, by the white pages

http://www.whitepages.com/dir/west-stewartstown-nh/marchand/jonathan

http://www.whitepages.com/dir/west-stewartstown-nh/mckearney/crystal


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 01:16:24 PM
28 or 29 years.  losing my mind with all these names.


Hey TCUmom,

Please do not hate me, reference point to 2004 Obit for George Cass' George D. Cass. :)

 Lori Kearney and Louisia Cass are sisters.  Crystal would be Lori's daughter?  How old is Lori (Cass) Kearney?

March 6, 2004
George D. Cass, 62, of Powder Hill Drive, died suddenly at (Lancaster0
his home on Saturday morning, March 6, 2004.
 ::snipping2::
     Family members include three sons, Del Cass and his wife Joy of
Jefferson, Donny Cass of Whitefield, Wayne Reed Sr. and his wife Valerie of
Jefferson; two daughters, Lori McKearney of Lancaster, Louisia Cass of West
Stewartstown; his mother, Ernestine (Cass) Blanchard of Whitefield; a
sister, Joyce Dupont of Lancaster; thirteen grandchildren; and one
great-granddaughter.
 ::snipping2::

Who is Wayne Reed, Sr....does any Monkey know, where or how he is a son to George?  Where is he?   ::MonkeyTongue::

     http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/state/obits/2004/coos20040310.txt

Oh I am so confused.  Are we saying the same thing?

Lori Lea Cass McKearney is Louisa Cass' sister.  And, somewhere I read/thought/imagined that Crystal McKearney is Lori's daughter. 

Isn't that correct? 

Pardon me for being nuts . . . I'm going thru withdrawals being with the monkeys during the day....school starts for teachers next week.  rats.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
Lori Lea Cass McKearney is 47 according to:

www.people-finders.ws/Summary.asp?fn=lori&mn=&ln=mckearney&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&city=&state=&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=0&y=0


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 01:18:45 PM

TCUmom,  You are correct, Crystal McKeraney belongs to the family. 


Wade F Mckearney
W Mckearney
Lori Lea Mckearney
Leona A Mckearney
Crystal Mckearney

Could she be Mom to Wade McKearney? (Lori's, DH)

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=Wade&qmi=&qn=Mc+Kearney&qcs=stewardstown%2C+nh&focusfirst=1


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 01:20:36 PM
Lori Lea Cass McKearney is 47 according to:

www.people-finders.ws/Summary.asp?fn=lori&mn=&ln=mckearney&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&city=&state=&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=0&y=0

Thank-you TCUmom...so there is an eight year age gap between Louisia Cass and Lori Lea Cass. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 01:22:13 PM
REED, WAYNE DEAN (Age 51)

Associated names:

 REED, WAYNE D
 REED,  W
 WAYNE, REED
   Available(2)    Available    JEFFERSON, NH
LANCASTER, NH    Possible Relatives:

SCHOONER, VALERIE ANN (Age 48)
REED, VALERIE ANN (Age 48)

http://www.people-finders.ws/processor.asp


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 01:24:04 PM
Lori Lea Cass McKearney is 47 according to:

www.people-finders.ws/Summary.asp?fn=lori&mn=&ln=mckearney&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&city=&state=&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=0&y=0

Thank-you TCUmom...so there is an eight year age gap between Louisia Cass and Lori Lea Cass. 

I think Crystal McKearney's FB info said she graduated from Stratford High School in 2001, so 28 or 29 now.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 05, 2011, 01:29:14 PM
Just wanted to give a quick shout out to all the wonderful monkeys posting links & updates.

I thought it was very strang the way Celina's obit was worded.

1) How come it says "mother and father" without their specific names?

2) Why the hell would they say donations could be made to the Celina Cass foundation or whatever it is? She's being cremated! Sure they got a pink casket but why? She's being cremated, not embalmed, so no need for makeup, clothes, etc. Why not a pink marble box or something? Or 2 so both bio parents could have 1/2? Or why not spread her ashes somewhere that she loved or dreamed of going?

3) Why is the date of death being shown as July 30th when the authorities have already said they think she died the same date she was reported missing...the 26th?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 05, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
Where did Kevin work?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 01:33:30 PM
REED, WAYNE DEAN (Age 51)

Associated names:

 REED, WAYNE D
REED,  W
 WAYNE, REED
   Available(2)    Available    JEFFERSON, NH
LANCASTER, NH    Possible Relatives:

SCHOONER, VALERIE ANN (Age 48)
REED, VALERIE ANN (Age 48)

http://www.people-finders.ws/processor.asp


TCUmom & CW,

Thank-you for your time of looking up these puzzles.

Who is Wayne Reed, bio mom or dad?  He would be the brother of Louisia Cass (according to the obit) :). 
George Cass had three sons: one of the three is Wayne Reed, Senior. Was Wayne Reed, Senior, George's wifes, first child,
or did they adopt him? 

The above Wayne Reed is 51 - George Cass would be about 70, if he was still living, age sounds right.

 Where is the late George Cass wife or wives? Where the Hill is the mother to Louisia Cass? 
Could it be the mysterious "Sandra Cass"?  grr :) 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 01:36:22 PM
Just wanted to give a quick shout out to all the wonderful monkeys posting links & updates.

I thought it was very strang the way Celina's obit was worded.

1) How come it says "mother and father" without their specific names?

2) Why the hell would they say donations could be made to the Celina Cass foundation or whatever it is? She's being cremated! Sure they got a pink casket but why? She's being cremated, not embalmed, so no need for makeup, clothes, etc. Why not a pink marble box or something? Or 2 so both bio parents could have 1/2? Or why not spread her ashes somewhere that she loved or dreamed of going?

3) Why is the date of death being shown as July 30th when the authorities have already said they think she died the same date she was reported missing...the 26th?

Titch,

The Grapevine ::MonkeyCool:: suggest the Pink Casket could be rented, so why donations?   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 01:39:36 PM
Where did Kevin work?

This is the only info and I can find ~ maybe he went to quick-copy and had some cards printed up.  Can't picture him actually working.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.jigsaw.com/scid18202912/kevin_mullaney.xhtml?ver=5


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 01:40:40 PM
Lori Lea Cass McKearney is 47 according to:

www.people-finders.ws/Summary.asp?fn=lori&mn=&ln=mckearney&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&city=&state=&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=0&y=0

Thank-you TCUmom...so there is an eight year age gap between Louisia Cass and Lori Lea Cass. 

I think Crystal McKearney's FB info said she graduated from Stratford High School in 2001, so 28 or 29 now.

Thank-you, so C.M. was renting in the same house according to 411.com reverse address. She would not be the aunt
but the cousin of Celina.  This is crystal clear.  :)  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 01:49:57 PM
Seahorse ~  yeah, crystal clear.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

By the way, Crystal McKearney's FB says she works at Towles Gas Station in West Stewartstown.  Just throwing that out there.

I'll see if I can find anything on that Reed guy.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 01:55:54 PM

www.411.com [/color] "Reverse Address" 
Three people listed.  Who is Jonathan M.?  Is he an associate or a new tenant?
Crystal McKearney is she the sister or the Aunt, or assoicate :)

- Jonathan Marchand, -W Noyes- Crystal McKearney

http://www.411.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=863+washington+avenue&where=Stewartstown%2C+NH


Isn't Crystal McKearney the daughter of Lori Lea Cass McKearney?  I think she's about 28 or 28 years.  Gosh, I hope I'm not confusing everyone.......just trying to remember.   sigh.

not sure about the McKearney,but the Marchand name i saw here
http://www4.egov.nh.gov/nsor/Display.aspx?offenderID=2664

and j Marchand,and c McKearney are listed else where, by the white pages

http://www.whitepages.com/dir/west-stewartstown-nh/marchand/jonathan

http://www.whitepages.com/dir/west-stewartstown-nh/mckearney/crystal

CW618,

Could you please tell me do the newspapers on-line have a section for birth announcements, divorces, marriages, etc?   ::MonkeyShovel::

The chronical is an excellent little paper, thanks for the link's. I forget to look-up the local town newpapers.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 02:00:05 PM
Seahorse ~  yeah, crystal clear.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

By the way, Crystal McKearney's FB says she works at Towles Gas Station in West Stewartstown.  Just throwing that out there.

I'll see if I can find anything on that Reed guy.  ::MonkeyCool::

 :thumleft: :thumleft:  Thanks, TCUmom!   I love the jumping monkey :)  I am going to jump off, for now :)

 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 02:04:46 PM
Where did Kevin work?

This is the only info and I can find ~ maybe he went to quick-copy and had some cards printed up.  Can't picture him actually working.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.jigsaw.com/scid18202912/kevin_mullaney.xhtml?ver=5

It could be what he considers a joke.  Pro Con, Incorporated = professional con artist. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 02:23:43 PM
Where did Kevin work?

This is the only info and I can find ~ maybe he went to quick-copy and had some cards printed up.  Can't picture him actually working.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.jigsaw.com/scid18202912/kevin_mullaney.xhtml?ver=5

It could be what he considers a joke.  Pro Con, Incorporated = professional con artist. 
If he's smart enough to think like one. ha.  These folks are definitely a unique breed.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 02:26:28 PM
http://www.nhdeeds.com/coos/CoSearchRec.html


I have not checked yet on (Dad) the late, George Cass, who lived on Powder Hill Road (2004).
IDK if the record's are still on here or not.  I going to browse later at the NH Libraries :)


http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/NH_Coos.htm

http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/NH_Coos.htm


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: ScareyCarrie on August 05, 2011, 02:27:15 PM
Where did Kevin work?

This is the only info and I can find ~ maybe he went to quick-copy and had some cards printed up.  Can't picture him actually working.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.jigsaw.com/scid18202912/kevin_mullaney.xhtml?ver=5

It could be what he considers a joke.  Pro Con, Incorporated = professional con artist. 
If he's smart enough to think like one. ha.  These folks are definitely a unique breed.  ::MonkeyEek::

and here i thought Haleigh Cummings had weird family.....


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 05, 2011, 02:36:48 PM
I'm gonna throw this out there bc I seriously don't understand...
Is it possible that maybe there's some inbreeding...like what the DuPont family did to keep land & wealth in their bloodline? When I looked up the Noyes surname, the name goes way back, years & years, and the men believed in having more than one wife. I'm wondering if the Cass family was like that? If so, maybe a couple people inherited a couple "special" recessive genes. Literally.

Also, who is the lady that said she moved about 3 weeks before Celina went missing? Since her apartment was left empty, could Kevin or somebody else have been squatting in that empty apartment at night when they knew nobody would be in there?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 02:41:00 PM
I'm gonna throw this out there bc I seriously don't understand...
Is it possible that maybe there's some inbreeding...like what the DuPont family did to keep land & wealth in their bloodline? When I looked up the Noyes surname, the name goes way back, years & years, and the men believed in having more than one wife. I'm wondering if the Cass family was like that? If so, maybe a couple people inherited a couple "special" recessive genes. Literally.

Also, who is the lady that said she moved about 3 weeks before Celina went missing? Since her apartment was left empty, could Kevin or somebody else have been squatting in that empty apartment at night when they knew nobody would be in there?

I'll look for the video but I saw it on t.v. so I dont' know if I can find it.  It was this lady and a friend standing in the road and the reporter was interviewing her because she was saying that she just moved out three weeks ago and wishes she hadn't because maybe she would have heard something. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 02:44:33 PM
I can't find the video but here's an article.  Specifically, scroll toward the bottom.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 02:44:59 PM
I can't find the video but here's an article.  Specifically, scroll toward the bottom.

Duh

http://www.necn.com/08/02/11/Behind-Celinas-family-life/landing_newengland.html?blockID=545546&feedID=4206


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 02:45:31 PM
snipped

I'm gonna throw this out there bc I seriously don't understand...
Is it possible that maybe there's some inbreeding...like what the DuPont family did to keep land & wealth in their bloodline? When I looked up the Noyes surname, the name goes way back, years & years, and the men believed in having more than one wife. I'm wondering if the Cass family was like that? If so, maybe a couple people inherited a couple "special" recessive genes. Literally.

snipped

Well, I don't know if I did that snipped business correctly, but anyway...

I have no doubt that there is inbreeding......there's been a lot of seeds sown, so to speak....... ::MonkeyShocked::

I'm only going by researching the Noyes surname on the internet, and I've had to just walk away and shake my head.

Frankly, I'm stunned that Wendell was in the military.  That's almost scary.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
I'm gonna throw this out there bc I seriously don't understand...
Is it possible that maybe there's some inbreeding...like what the DuPont family did to keep land & wealth in their bloodline? When I looked up the Noyes surname, the name goes way back, years & years, and the men believed in having more than one wife. I'm wondering if the Cass family was like that? If so, maybe a couple people inherited a couple "special" recessive genes. Literally.

Also, who is the lady that said she moved about 3 weeks before Celina went missing? Since her apartment was left empty, could Kevin or somebody else have been squatting in that empty apartment at night when they knew nobody would be in there?

Oh, yeah.  Surely the authorities have grilled her for any info possible, and has been *asked* not to speak.  I think Kevin was just flat out living there even when this unknown woman was renting.

Heck, she probably got a load of the goings-on with this clan, and hightailed it out as fast as she could.  I don't think I could have slept at night. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 02:49:46 PM
snipped

I'm gonna throw this out there bc I seriously don't understand...
Is it possible that maybe there's some inbreeding...like what the DuPont family did to keep land & wealth in their bloodline? When I looked up the Noyes surname, the name goes way back, years & years, and the men believed in having more than one wife. I'm wondering if the Cass family was like that? If so, maybe a couple people inherited a couple "special" recessive genes. Literally.

snipped



Well, I don't know if I did that snipped business correctly, but anyway...

I have no doubt that there is inbreeding......there's been a lot of seeds sown, so to speak....... ::MonkeyShocked::

I'm only going by researching the Noyes surname on the internet, and I've had to just walk away and shake my head.

Frankly, I'm stunned that Wendell was in the military.  That's almost scary.  ::MonkeyWink::

I hear ya tcumom.  I started looking up the name Noyes and came up with so many that I gave up.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 02:53:08 PM
snipped

I'm gonna throw this out there bc I seriously don't understand...
Is it possible that maybe there's some inbreeding...like what the DuPont family did to keep land & wealth in their bloodline? When I looked up the Noyes surname, the name goes way back, years & years, and the men believed in having more than one wife. I'm wondering if the Cass family was like that? If so, maybe a couple people inherited a couple "special" recessive genes. Literally.

snipped



Well, I don't know if I did that snipped business correctly, but anyway...

I have no doubt that there is inbreeding......there's been a lot of seeds sown, so to speak....... ::MonkeyShocked::

I'm only going by researching the Noyes surname on the internet, and I've had to just walk away and shake my head.

Frankly, I'm stunned that Wendell was in the military.  That's almost scary.  ::MonkeyWink::

I hear ya tcumom.  I started looking up the name Noyes and came up with so many that I gave up.

There is also a Noyes road that I mentioned in here earlier...Noyes Rd
Stewartstown, NH 03576 haven't researched all of this though.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 05, 2011, 02:55:12 PM
Where did Kevin work?

This is the only info and I can find ~ maybe he went to quick-copy and had some cards printed up.  Can't picture him actually working.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.jigsaw.com/scid18202912/kevin_mullaney.xhtml?ver=5

It could be what he considers a joke.  Pro Con, Incorporated = professional con artist. 
If he's smart enough to think like one. ha.  These folks are definitely a unique breed.  ::MonkeyEek::

and here i thought Haleigh Cummings had weird family.....

Very sad situation.

What if Louisa is a little touched and truly loves her children more than anything but she didn't really know any better?

I'm curious why Adam Laro said his daughters had a nice room but now sleep on an air mattress in the basement, that apparently their room was being used by Kevin. I find this curious bc wouldn't they have had 2 beds in there? If so, why would the sisters be on an air mattress in the basement while Kevin gets to use their room...if they had 2 beds?

Also, I find it odd that Kayla went to "visit" her dad the day after Celina was found. She went fishing with him. It was also said that Louisa hasn't even called there since Celina went missing. So, was their breakup bad? Are there any orders to not contact each other? Why didn't Kayla spend the night at her dad's? Does she ever? If not, why?

Why didn't Adam look into Wendell when he found out he was in the picture?

Why didn't anybody question why Adam was using the girls' room? One of them had to complain just a little that they gave their room up!

Celina was last seen on a computer in her room. Her bedroom or the basement?

If everybody had fb pages, wasn't anyone curious as to why Wendell's fb profile was filled with sluts? Or was that just their way of life? Is this something the girls are used to? When I looked st their walls, they sure seem innocent. It doesn't make sense. They love their mom dearly. Something just doesn't add up.

It's a proven fact that down's people are more trusting, loving/caring right away. I have no idea if there's a medical or scientific reason, but is it possible that maybe Louisa has been sheltered, not worldly, doesn't judge bc she doesn't know any better, therefore she could be easily taken advantage of?

Is Wendell's fb page really him? If so, why did he make a post to somebody that he's in Canaan? It's since been removed from his side. I think he sure is hinky, but something really does seem off. Maybe the whole family's into bad stuff.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 05, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
snipped

I'm gonna throw this out there bc I seriously don't understand...
Is it possible that maybe there's some inbreeding...like what the DuPont family did to keep land & wealth in their bloodline? When I looked up the Noyes surname, the name goes way back, years & years, and the men believed in having more than one wife. I'm wondering if the Cass family was like that? If so, maybe a couple people inherited a couple "special" recessive genes. Literally.

snipped



Well, I don't know if I did that snipped business correctly, but anyway...

I have no doubt that there is inbreeding......there's been a lot of seeds sown, so to speak....... ::MonkeyShocked::

I'm only going by researching the Noyes surname on the internet, and I've had to just walk away and shake my head.

Frankly, I'm stunned that Wendell was in the military.  That's almost scary.  ::MonkeyWink::

I hear ya tcumom.  I started looking up the name Noyes and came up with so many that I gave up.

There is also a Noyes road that I mentioned in here earlier...Noyes Rd
Stewartstown, NH 03576 haven't researched all of this though.

What's even scarier is that some were truckers, long haul.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 05, 2011, 02:59:58 PM
I can't find the video but here's an article.  Specifically, scroll toward the bottom.

Duh

http://www.necn.com/08/02/11/Behind-Celinas-family-life/landing_newengland.html?blockID=545546&feedID=4206

Thank you.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 03:08:55 PM
I couldn't find it again in here...so I typed into google...regarding Kevin sleeping in the room with the girls:

Google brought this back to me from Blink:

linda says:
August 3, 2011 at 9:50 pm

NECN has learned that Celina and her sister had recently been sleeping in the basement of their house while a family friend, 23-year-old Kevin Mullaney, was staying with them in Celina’s room.


I knew that I had read this...but, the first time that I read it I took as if Kevin was staying WITH the girls in the SAME room...reading it a second time...guess not.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 05, 2011, 03:13:26 PM
I couldn't find it again in here...so I typed into google...regarding Kevin sleeping in the room with the girls:

Google brought this back to me from Blink:

linda says:
August 3, 2011 at 9:50 pm

NECN has learned that Celina and her sister had recently been sleeping in the basement of their house while a family friend, 23-year-old Kevin Mullaney, was staying with them in Celina’s room.


I knew that I had read this...but, the first time that I read it I took as if Kevin was staying WITH the girls in the SAME room...reading it a second time...guess not.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/

He should of been sleeping in the basement period.
Do they have a/c in there or is it cool there?
 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 03:21:20 PM
I couldn't find it again in here...so I typed into google...regarding Kevin sleeping in the room with the girls:

Google brought this back to me from Blink:

linda says:
August 3, 2011 at 9:50 pm

NECN has learned that Celina and her sister had recently been sleeping in the basement of their house while a family friend, 23-year-old Kevin Mullaney, was staying with them in Celina’s room.


I knew that I had read this...but, the first time that I read it I took as if Kevin was staying WITH the girls in the SAME room...reading it a second time...guess not.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/

He should of been sleeping in the basement period.
Do they have a/c in there or is it cool there?
 ::HelloKitty::


Here is a weather site for that area:

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=zmw:03597.1.99999

you can go back to the 25th. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 05, 2011, 03:30:30 PM
I find it really odd that mom's boss said that she required"absolute" privacy. The hiding behind blankets or people surrounding her to block her from sight. This is just plain weird.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 05, 2011, 03:35:34 PM

TCUmom,  You are correct, Crystal McKeraney belongs to the family. 


Wade F Mckearney
W Mckearney
Lori Lea Mckearney
Leona A Mckearney
Crystal Mckearney

Could she be Mom to Wade McKearney? (Lori's, DH)

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=Wade&qmi=&qn=Mc+Kearney&qcs=stewardstown%2C+nh&focusfirst=1

Here is crystal's FB page. Graduated HS in 2001, so too young to be Wade's mother.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Blonde on August 05, 2011, 03:46:19 PM
Celina was found dead in the water with her own blanket wrapped around her. Did she sneak out of the house that night to meet someone of do you think she was killed in her home?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 03:46:26 PM
I find it really odd that mom's boss said that she required"absolute" privacy. The hiding behind blankets or people surrounding her to block her from sight. This is just plain weird.

maybe she is in some sort of witness protection program...ha.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Blonde on August 05, 2011, 03:48:56 PM
I am very concerned about her sister Kayla. I hope she is safe and is getting counseling. She was the one out knocking on doors looking for her sister and probably feels responsible because she wasn't there. I keep looking at this picture and it speaks volumes to me.

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/cel.jpg)

Something is up with this her sister looks scared


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 03:51:41 PM
I am very concerned about her sister Kayla. I hope she is safe and is getting counseling. She was the one out knocking on doors looking for her sister and probably feels responsible because she wasn't there. I keep looking at this picture and it speaks volumes to me.

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/cel.jpg)

Something is up with this her sister looks scared


Yes, look where his hands are ...she looks stressed.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 05, 2011, 04:04:21 PM
Just noticed this in the picture.....odd

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/sisters.jpg)

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/sisters-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 05, 2011, 04:14:54 PM
I am very concerned about her sister Kayla. I hope she is safe and is getting counseling. She was the one out knocking on doors looking for her sister and probably feels responsible because she wasn't there. I keep looking at this picture and it speaks volumes to me.

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/cel.jpg)

Something is up with this her sister looks scared


I think she looks upset. The first thing that crossed my mind when I saw this was that she was trying to keep his hands off her chest. She has a grip on his hand like she is trying to hold it away from her.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2011, 04:18:52 PM
Celina was found dead in the water with her own blanket wrapped around her. Did she sneak out of the house that night to meet someone of do you think she was killed in her home?

Personally I believe she was killed in her home by either Kevin or Wendell.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2011, 04:22:02 PM
Just noticed this in the picture.....odd

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/sisters.jpg)

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/sisters-1.jpg)

Looks like a woman, maybe even her mom


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: ScareyCarrie on August 05, 2011, 04:31:07 PM
I am very concerned about her sister Kayla. I hope she is safe and is getting counseling. She was the one out knocking on doors looking for her sister and probably feels responsible because she wasn't there. I keep looking at this picture and it speaks volumes to me.

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/cel.jpg)

Something is up with this her sister looks scared


I think she looks upset. The first thing that crossed my mind when I saw this was that she was trying to keep his hands off her chest. She has a grip on his hand like she is trying to hold it away from her.

i deffinately see where your coming from on that look, i think it looks like he is doing a headlock type of move around both of them and Celina takes it maybe playfully while Kayla does not take it so lightly she looks like shes trying to resist, and looks in distress. Maybe he abused her and this is how she felt/ acted toward him period, or maybe he made her feel uncomfortable, or was just flat out hurting her... just suggesting not a facts..

also notice that he has both hands like clasped as to gardner more strength, and his bicep is flexed on Celina's side of the pic.... shows to me he ws muscling them around...



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: ScareyCarrie on August 05, 2011, 04:33:05 PM
golly jeepers what is wrong with that quote stack  ::MonkeyEek:: i went all the way to the end and went down a few lines and it still carped on me!

 ::piggy::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 04:37:29 PM
Celina was found dead in the water with her own blanket wrapped around her. Did she sneak out of the house that night to meet someone of do you think she was killed in her home?

Personally I believe she was killed in her home by either Kevin or Wendell.
Klaas ~ you're so succinct.  I agree.

Do you think Kevin, Wendell, and Louisa all know what happened?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 04:41:07 PM
To those that are researching the family history...a good place to go is the obituary comments.  There are quite a few family comments and more:

http://www.baileyfh.net/obituary.aspx?MemberId=93224&MName=Celina%20Marie%20Cass


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 05, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
What I don't understand is why more people aren't talking. First of all they usually interview teachers, etc. But, the part that puzzles me are the kids. Kids usually discuss all that stuff and on their FB pages. On the FB walls open to the public I have seen, except for the one brief exchange on Tyler's page, the comments have been on the adults FB pages - on the Cass side. Are they scared of someone involved?

And NONE of the kids put a pic of Celina up or posted the missing flier on their pages before she was found. Even the relatives didn't put the poster on their pages. Weird. Just weird.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2011, 04:54:59 PM
Celina was found dead in the water with her own blanket wrapped around her. Did she sneak out of the house that night to meet someone of do you think she was killed in her home?

Personally I believe she was killed in her home by either Kevin or Wendell.
Klaas ~ you're so succinct.  I agree.

Do you think Kevin, Wendell, and Louisa all know what happened?

For sure Kevin and Wendell, not sure about Louisa although looking at Louisa's photo in the 2nd Hand Store advertisement and seeing her prior to body being found under the blanket I believe she had a pretty good idea.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Just noticed this in the picture.....odd

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/sisters.jpg)

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/sisters-1.jpg)

Looks like a woman, maybe even her mom

It was mentioned before that it's the mom peeping through them on this picture.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 05, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
In one of the previous articles it talked about Wendall and his sister going with him to check into a motel, a couple days ago..then he instead went to the hospital.  What I thought was odd about that was why wasn't he with Louisa at that point..instead of his sister.  Did Louisa go with her family and they did not want him there because they were all starting to suspect things..or because of his mental health condition they couldn't deal with him and Louisa..just seems odd that they weren't togather.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2011, 05:12:37 PM
In one of the previous articles it talked about Wendall and his sister going with him to check into a motel, a couple days ago..then he instead went to the hospital.  What I thought was odd about that was why wasn't he with Louisa at that point..instead of his sister.  Did Louisa go with her family and they did not want him there because they were all starting to suspect things..or because of his mental health condition they couldn't deal with him and Louisa..just seems odd that they weren't togather.

Probably


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
In one of the previous articles it talked about Wendall and his sister going with him to check into a motel, a couple days ago..then he instead went to the hospital.  What I thought was odd about that was why wasn't he with Louisa at that point..instead of his sister.  Did Louisa go with her family and they did not want him there because they were all starting to suspect things..or because of his mental health condition they couldn't deal with him and Louisa..just seems odd that they weren't togather.

I think it was either Wendell or Kevin who killed Celina but I'm leaning more toward Wendell.  And I think Louisia has put two and two together and knows exactly who killed her.  More than likely she has seen some strange things go on in that house before.  You know and can tell if your husband is a pervert.  I think she's been acting totally weird and cowardly throughout this whole thing, not even making a plea to the public because she knows.  Also, I'll bet by now everyone in that family knows or suspects who killed Celina and it wasn't a random stranger.
 

About Wendell, I know he's had mental problems before but I think now he's just a pervert who is using his mental record to try to save himself.  Why would he say in the beginning interview that Celina was the type of girl who didn't even like to go out of the house and then in the same interview say his message to her would be to "get your butt home".  He sure didn't have anything to say when the reporter tried to interview him the day Celina's body was found.  You could see through his fainting routine like a piece of glass.  And his last ditch efforts of go to the hospital or the mental hospital aren't coming from anguish over Celina's death but over fear because it's closing in on him.

Adam's first statement was that he didn't see anything unusual in that house the few times he'd been there.  He did say he thought it a bit strange when Wendell bought out the girls' report cards without being asked and showed him how well they were doing in school.  Then Kayla went to visit him the day after Celina's body was found.  So in his second interview after that he mentions the fact that Celina and Kayla were sleeping in the basement and he didn't think that was right.  He probably learned some things on that visit and I'll bet there were a lot of things he was unaware of going on in that house. 

There is definite fear on Kayla's face in that picture and it's sad.  As far as law enforcement, I believe they know the killer but are making sure that they have a one hundred percent solid case.  They've assured the people of that town not to be overly concerned but to be vigilant.  One or the other will be arrested for murder and I believe it will be Wendell.     


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 05:46:08 PM
I find it really odd that mom's boss said that she required"absolute" privacy. The hiding behind blankets or people surrounding her to block her from sight. This is just plain weird.

maybe she is in some sort of witness protection program...ha.


Mafiosa chick?..WiseGuy rat?.       ::MonkeyCool::      She will not speak, her voice has not been heard.  I think she was a witness, somewhere for something IMO...her voice... she is afraid to speak, what does that tell us? ::MonkeyEek::


She changed her appearance IMO from December 2010 to when hiding under the blanket. The Vigil photo, LMC appears to have cut and dyed her hair, since the Consignment Shop photo. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 05:48:40 PM


Very sad situation.

What if Louisa is a little touched and truly loves her children more than anything but she didn't really know any better? I think this is very possible.  Some of the parents of my 8th grade students seem to be somewhat slow (no offense to any monkey that has family members who are challenged).  I do believe she loved her daughters, but was *very* easily manipulated by (probably) any man.

I'm curious why Adam Laro said his daughters had a nice room but now sleep on an air mattress in the basement, that apparently their room was being used by Kevin. I find this curious bc wouldn't they have had 2 beds in there? If so, why would the sisters be on an air mattress in the basement while Kevin gets to use their room...if they had 2 beds?  Somehow, i picture the sisters having to share a bed.  If you asked me why, I don't know.  Just the circumstances of where/how they seem to live.

Also, I find it odd that Kayla went to "visit" her dad the day after Celina was found. She went fishing with him. It was also said that Louisa hasn't even called there since Celina went missing. So, was their breakup bad? Are there any orders to not contact each other? Why didn't Kayla spend the night at her dad's? Does she ever? If not, why?  I picture Wendell threatening (unspoken, or not) Louisa to have no contact with Adam, both before and after Celina's death.  I think the girls were NOT encouraged to see their dad, and he may have eventually just given up, more or less, seeing them, except on a rare occasion.

Why didn't Adam look into Wendell when he found out he was in the picture? I think Adam's family *had* to know about the Noyes clan . . . who knows, Adam may have tried to talk sense into Louisa. . .

Why didn't anybody question why Adam was using the girls' room? One of them had to complain just a little that they gave their room up!  Probably afraid to complain, especially to big boy Wendell.

Celina was last seen on a computer in her room. Her bedroom or the basement?  Wish I knew.  I keep asking that same question.

If everybody had fb pages, wasn't anyone curious as to why Wendell's fb profile was filled with sluts? Or was that just their way of life? Is this something the girls are used to? When I looked st their walls, they sure seem innocent. It doesn't make sense. They love their mom dearly. Something just doesn't add up.   I do think this was the norm for this crew.  They probably just ignored him, and focused on Mom.

It's a proven fact that down's people are more trusting, loving/caring right away. I have no idea if there's a medical or scientific reason, but is it possible that maybe Louisa has been sheltered, not worldly, doesn't judge bc she doesn't know any better, therefore she could be easily taken advantage of?  I definitely think Celina is somewhat mentally challenged, and is easily influenced/lead astray.

Is Wendell's fb page really him? If so, why did he make a post to somebody that he's in Canaan? It's since been removed from his side. I think he sure is hinky, but something really does seem off. Maybe the whole family's into bad stuff.
[/quote]  I think the whole family is off, and into bad stuff.  I don't how much she'll actually help the authorities.....maybe they can assure her that it's easier to tell the truth, and Wendell won"t hurt her.  Simplistic sounding, I know.

This was the easiest way I could answer, by using green.  Hope it's okay, 'cause I really wanted to comment on everything.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 05:49:56 PM
After all that, I messed up the quote box.   ackkkkk.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 05:54:19 PM
One of the monkeys, cleverly, mentioned that the Consignment shop was closed on Mondays, according to the sign on the door. I am just going by my memory bank.

The reason why I am mentioning this detail, the Monkey mentioned Celina went missing on a Monday, and mom, reportly, went to work.  If the day Celina disappeared was on a Monday, and the if the shop was closed on a Monday, what does that tell us?

IMO and Questions... ::MonkeyTongue::




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 06:00:50 PM
One of the monkeys, cleverly, mentioned that the Consignment shop was closed on Mondays, according to the sign on the door. I am just going by my memory bank.

The reason why I am mentioning this detail, the Monkey mentioned Celina went missing on a Monday, and mom, reportly, went to work.  If the day Celina disappeared was on a Monday, and the if the shop was closed on a Monday, what does that tell us?

IMO and Questions... ::MonkeyTongue::




The ad says that the shop was closed on Monday.  July 25 of this year was a Monday, which was the last time Celina was allegedly seen by the parents.  So Louisia didn't work that day. 

The next day, July 26th, was a Tuesday and the shop opens at 9:30 so Louisia went to work that day.  That was the morning Celina was discovered missing.  So with Kayla being away, that would have left Celina, Wendell, Kevin and whatever other randoms were living there in the home.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 06:01:21 PM
In one of the previous articles it talked about Wendall and his sister going with him to check into a motel, a couple days ago..then he instead went to the hospital.  What I thought was odd about that was why wasn't he with Louisa at that point..instead of his sister.  Did Louisa go with her family and they did not want him there because they were all starting to suspect things..or because of his mental health condition they couldn't deal with him and Louisa..just seems odd that they weren't togather.

I think it was either Wendell or Kevin who killed Celina but I'm leaning more toward Wendell.  And I think Louisia has put two and two together and knows exactly who killed her.  More than likely she has seen some strange things go on in that house before.  You know and can tell if your husband is a pervert.  I think she's been acting totally weird and cowardly throughout this whole thing, not even making a plea to the public because she knows.  Also, I'll bet by now everyone in that family knows or suspects who killed Celina and it wasn't a random stranger.
 

About Wendell, I know he's had mental problems before but I think now he's just a pervert who is using his mental record to try to save himself.  Why would he say in the beginning interview that Celina was the type of girl who didn't even like to go out of the house and then in the same interview say his message to her would be to "get your butt home".  He sure didn't have anything to say when the reporter tried to interview him the day Celina's body was found.  You could see through his fainting routine like a piece of glass.  And his last ditch efforts of go to the hospital or the mental hospital aren't coming from anguish over Celina's death but over fear because it's closing in on him.

Adam's first statement was that he didn't see anything unusual in that house the few times he'd been there.  He did say he thought it a bit strange when Wendell bought out the girls' report cards without being asked and showed him how well they were doing in school.  Then Kayla went to visit him the day after Celina's body was found.  So in his second interview after that he mentions the fact that Celina and Kayla were sleeping in the basement and he didn't think that was right.  He probably learned some things on that visit and I'll bet there were a lot of things he was unaware of going on in that house. 

There is definite fear on Kayla's face in that picture and it's sad.  As far as law enforcement, I believe they know the killer but are making sure that they have a one hundred percent solid case.  They've assured the people of that town not to be overly concerned but to be vigilant.  One or the other will be arrested for murder and I believe it will be Wendell.     

::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
One of the monkeys, cleverly, mentioned that the Consignment shop was closed on Mondays, according to the sign on the door. I am just going by my memory bank.

The reason why I am mentioning this detail, the Monkey mentioned Celina went missing on a Monday, and mom, reportly, went to work.  If the day Celina disappeared was on a Monday, and the if the shop was closed on a Monday, what does that tell us?

IMO and Questions... ::MonkeyTongue::

The consignment shop is called Lads and Ladybugs - here is the link -

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lads-and-Ladybugs-Consignment-Shop/187658797947913?sk=info

It looks like it's a straight ride down the highway from where they lived but I'll do a google maps direction search.














The ad says that the shop was closed on Monday.  July 25 of this year was a Monday, which was the last time Celina was allegedly seen by the parents.  So Louisia didn't work that day. 

The next day, July 26th, was a Tuesday and the shop opens at 9:30 so Louisia went to work that day.  That was the morning Celina was discovered missing.  So with Kayla being away, that would have left Celina, Wendell, Kevin and whatever other randoms were living there in the home.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 06:07:52 PM
One of the monkeys, cleverly, mentioned that the Consignment shop was closed on Mondays, according to the sign on the door. I am just going by my memory bank.

The reason why I am mentioning this detail, the Monkey mentioned Celina went missing on a Monday, and mom, reportly, went to work.  If the day Celina disappeared was on a Monday, and the if the shop was closed on a Monday, what does that tell us?

IMO and Questions... ::MonkeyTongue::




The ad says that the shop was closed on Monday.  July 25 of this year was a Monday, which was the last time Celina was allegedly seen by the parents.  So Louisia didn't work that day. 

The next day, July 26th, was a Tuesday and the shop opens at 9:30 so Louisia went to work that day.  That was the morning Celina was discovered missing.  So with Kayla being away, that would have left Celina, Wendell, Kevin and whatever other randoms were living there in the home.

Thanks, Pattianne. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 06:09:29 PM
Again.....with the quotes.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 05, 2011, 06:10:36 PM
One of the monkeys, cleverly, mentioned that the Consignment shop was closed on Mondays, according to the sign on the door. I am just going by my memory bank.

The reason why I am mentioning this detail, the Monkey mentioned Celina went missing on a Monday, and mom, reportly, went to work.  If the day Celina disappeared was on a Monday, and the if the shop was closed on a Monday, what does that tell us?

IMO and Questions... ::MonkeyTongue::




Wasn't it Wendall that supposedly said that Louisa went to work that day.  Yet the lady next door, Debbie something who reported Celina missing, said when she got to the house Louisa was there, but so upset she could barely get any info out of her. So Mom was home right before 9am when her daughter was reported missing.  I really don't know if she went to work or not that morning.  The shop may have been closed on Mondays but they may have used that day to go through new consignments, reduce prices on sale items..etc....But keep in mind it is Wendall that said she went to work..and Debbie that says she was at home when she came to the house to see what was going on after Kayla came to her.

I also read in the Colebrook weekly paper article that Louisa was so distraught that on July 26 she was taken to a hospital, treated for stress and released.  Then we have Wendall doing fine up until Aug 1st..when he finds out that they are searching the river..and he proceeds to fling himself on the ground...and then he is taken to the hospital by ambulance..treated and released.  Then a few days later when they take his truck and tape off the house..he goes back to the hospital.

Meanwhile  Adam has been in a medically induced coma for his heart..is released from the hospital towards the end of the week last week..where they are aware his daughter is missing..and told to go home and avoid stress?

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 06:14:25 PM
Here is a map of where the consignment shop is located -

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?pq=google+maps&hl=en&cp=4&gs_id=j&xhr=t&qe=TGFkcw&qesig=vkr3x6V5t3Dx9zb5p-lrWg&pkc=AFgZ2tlihPTZGKS9rxN-2Kv8AdNfaGrc7hZc42odu4BByvCdmH6S739jI8JK3em58dZqHUCFUzwFep_5ma1wS_Mfh4EoK6uiVQ&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS299&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1207&bih=678&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Lads+and+Ladybugs+consignment+New+Hampshire&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Lads+and+Ladybugs+consignment&hnear=0x4cb3444b9dc0a6eb:0xd7c802af25a680eb,New+Hampshire&cid=17130456833045237122


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 05, 2011, 06:26:50 PM
Hate to keep harping on this but when was the last time Celina was seen by someone outside the group she lived with.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Amys Sister on August 05, 2011, 06:30:34 PM
First, I want to say how well LE and investigators have handled this case.  It appears they have been efficient, focused, and took all steps very seriously.  Their spokeswoman has been direct and articulate, giving enough information without giving too much.  The image of her standing on the bridge overlooking the scene of the removal of Celina's body shows the focus and intent of the investigation.  Major kudos to all involved.  After reading about Kyron Horman and Hailey Dunn I had started to lose faith in the investigative process and information flow about cases involving missing children. 

Next, I want to comment about Celina's mom.  It is ironic that Celina was found wrapped in a blanket and her mom wrapped herself in a blanket.  My hunch is she knew the morning Celina was missing that Celina's blanket/s was gone.  IMO, she also knew that morning that her daughter had been harmed and/or was deceased.  I base that on the fact that she was so hysterical she could not even talk to the neighbor enough to let her know at what time they discovered Celina missing.  Additionally, she did not bother to call the police.  Imagine you awaken to find your daughter missing and her blanket gone... do you immediately become so hysterical you cannot talk to anyone nor can you call the police?  Not unless you know in your heart you are complicit in her disappearance by way of allowing access to her by unscrupulous types.

Now, her father, Adam Laro.  This man is extremely ill.  A weakened heart affects ability to think clearly or even move across the room.  He was in a coma for over a week.  He is gentle and his family appears to be loving and good people.  I hold no responsibility whatsoever for what has happened on him.  I do not believe he could have prevented it in any way.  I find it touching that Kayla wanted to be with him right after Celina's body was discovered... this shows a special bond between them.  I am sure that Kayla shared some things with Adam that he had no idea about prior to their conversation that day.

Kevin Mullaney (sp?) is suspect.  His history of multiple vehicular thefts and the fact that he does not live with his own family is an indicator of a troubled young man, one whom I would never allow around my children and especially in my home.  He looks strikingly similar to Celina... could easily be her brother based on physicality however Kayla looks nothing like either one of them.

Stepdad... expletives come to mind.  Peodophiles can spend a long time grooming a victim before attempting sexual contact with them.  We cannot say for certain this is what happened but my inner hunch believes he had done so with Celina.  Kayla was older and too smart.  Her concern for her sister was apparant, making me believe she knew Celina was in danger even before she went missing.  It is also my belief Celina's mom either ignored the warning signs or knew and allowed it to happen without realizing her daughters death would result.

If Celina had been smothered would an autopsy reveal this from a one week old deceased body found in water?  The need for tox results make me wonder if they believe she was drugged?  If she was, I believe more than one person was involved as the perps would want to be with her for a time and her being sober would make that more difficult.  If she was not drugged then it is more likely to have been done by only one person.  The sloppiness of it all indicates it did not go down as the perp/s had hoped or it was an attack without much intelligent foreplanning. 

Celina was a lovely little girl... really beautiful.  The image of her with the hat on is gorgeous but there is pain in her eyes in that picture.  My deepest condolences to the Laro family for all they are going through with their son and deceased grandaughter.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 06:31:51 PM
Hate to keep harping on this but when was the last time Celina was seen by someone outside the group she lived with.
I've been wondering, too.  It sounds like no one knows.  I'm hoping the authorities have these answers, and are playing it verrrry close to the vest.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Amys Sister on August 05, 2011, 06:32:29 PM
That's a long post, ya'll.  I'm sorry.  Clearly I had a lot to say!

  ::MonkeyBike::

First chance I've had to catch up on all the monkey posts and respond!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 06:34:19 PM
One of the monkeys, cleverly, mentioned that the Consignment shop was closed on Mondays, according to the sign on the door. I am just going by my memory bank.

The reason why I am mentioning this detail, the Monkey mentioned Celina went missing on a Monday, and mom, reportly, went to work.  If the day Celina disappeared was on a Monday, and the if the shop was closed on a Monday, what does that tell us?

IMO and Questions... ::MonkeyTongue::


































































































































Wasn't it Wendall that supposedly said that Louisa went to work that day.  Yet the lady next door, Debbie something who reported Celina missing, said when she got to the house Louisa was there, but so upset she could barely get any info out of her. So Mom was home right before 9am when her daughter was reported missing.  I really don't know if she went to work or not that morning.  The shop may have been closed on Mondays but they may have used that day to go through new consignments, reduce prices on sale items..etc....But keep in mind it is Wendall that said she went to work..and Debbie that says she was at home when she came to the house to see what was going on after Kayla came to her.

I also read in the Colebrook weekly paper article that Louisa was so distraught that on July 26 she was taken to a hospital, treated for stress and released.  Then we have Wendall doing fine up until Aug 1st..when he finds out that they are searching the river..and he proceeds to fling himself on the ground...and then he is taken to the hospital by ambulance..treated and released.  Then a few days later when they take his truck and tape off the house..he goes back to the hospital.

Meanwhile  Adam has been in a medically induced coma for his heart..is released from the hospital towards the end of the week last week..where they are aware his daughter is missing..and told to go home and avoid stress?

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::

Louisia didn't go to work on Monday the 25th because the shop was closed since it was a Monday.  The parents allege that on Monday night, Celina and her mom watched either t.v. or a movie and Kayla went to sleep over at a friends house.

Then on Tuesday the 26th, Louisia went to work because it was a Tuesday and the shop opened at 9:30 a.m.  That's why I'm trying to figure out the distance between the home and the shop in Colebrook.  So assuming she left her house at 9 a.m., that is the time that Wendell conveniently noticed Celina missing.  It's been reported that he called Louisia at work and she came home.  It's also been reported (all of this information was given by the parents) that Louisia called Kayla and told her that Celina was missing.  Kayla went to the neighbor's house to ask if she had seen Celina and supposedly the parents started a door to door search.  I'm sure law enforcement has checked if Louisia did, in fact, go to work that day and also checked times with the neighbors and all those in that house.  I saw on Facebook where someone had written that even Adam had gone through a pretty tough grilling by police.

A bigger question for me is why did Wendell say he noticed Celina missing at 9:00 a.m.?  It's summertime so why would he be looking in her bedroom for her so early.  How convenient with Kayla away and Louisia at work.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 06:35:40 PM
Apologies again.  I have to figure out whey I'm getting these big gaps between the quotes.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 06:41:38 PM
That's a long post, ya'll.  I'm sorry.  Clearly I had a lot to say!

  ::MonkeyBike::

First chance I've had to catch up on all the monkey posts and respond!

Great, insightful post.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
Good evening Monkey's,

Where is Sandra Cass?

George D Cass, age 70 (This is Dad who passed away 2004)
Lancaster, NH   
 
Sandra Cass

Louisia M Cass

Del O Cass

Intelius lists Sandra Cass as a George Cass relative .  Why can't we find Sandra Cass?  She is not his mother, she is not his sister, and she is not his child.  I have the obit memorized.  Where is Sandra?   ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=&qmi=&qn=Cass&qcs=lancaster%2C+nh&focusfirst=1


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
First, I want to say how well LE and investigators have handled this case.  It appears they have been efficient, focused, and took all steps very seriously.  Their spokeswoman has been direct and articulate, giving enough information without giving too much.  The image of her standing on the bridge overlooking the scene of the removal of Celina's body shows the focus and intent of the investigation.  Major kudos to all involved.  After reading about Kyron Horman and Hailey Dunn I had started to lose faith in the investigative process and information flow about cases involving missing children. 

Next, I want to comment about Celina's mom.  It is ironic that Celina was found wrapped in a blanket and her mom wrapped herself in a blanket.  My hunch is she knew the morning Celina was missing that Celina's blanket/s was gone.  IMO, she also knew that morning that her daughter had been harmed and/or was deceased.  I base that on the fact that she was so hysterical she could not even talk to the neighbor enough to let her know at what time they discovered Celina missing.  Additionally, she did not bother to call the police.  Imagine you awaken to find your daughter missing and her blanket gone... do you immediately become so hysterical you cannot talk to anyone nor can you call the police?  Not unless you know in your heart you are complicit in her disappearance by way of allowing access to her by unscrupulous types.

Now, her father, Adam Laro.  This man is extremely ill.  A weakened heart affects ability to think clearly or even move across the room.  He was in a coma for over a week.  He is gentle and his family appears to be loving and good people.  I hold no responsibility whatsoever for what has happened on him.  I do not believe he could have prevented it in any way.  I find it touching that Kayla wanted to be with him right after Celina's body was discovered... this shows a special bond between them.  I am sure that Kayla shared some things with Adam that he had no idea about prior to their conversation that day.

Kevin Mullaney (sp?) is suspect.  His history of multiple vehicular thefts and the fact that he does not live with his own family is an indicator of a troubled young man, one whom I would never allow around my children and especially in my home.  He looks strikingly similar to Celina... could easily be her brother based on physicality however Kayla looks nothing like either one of them.

Stepdad... expletives come to mind.  Peodophiles can spend a long time grooming a victim before attempting sexual contact with them.  We cannot say for certain this is what happened but my inner hunch believes he had done so with Celina.  Kayla was older and too smart.  Her concern for her sister was apparant, making me believe she knew Celina was in danger even before she went missing.  It is also my belief Celina's mom either ignored the warning signs or knew and allowed it to happen without realizing her daughters death would result.

If Celina had been smothered would an autopsy reveal this from a one week old deceased body found in water?  The need for tox results make me wonder if they believe she was drugged?  If she was, I believe more than one person was involved as the perps would want to be with her for a time and her being sober would make that more difficult.  If she was not drugged then it is more likely to have been done by only one person.  The sloppiness of it all indicates it did not go down as the perp/s had hoped or it was an attack without much intelligent foreplanning. 

Celina was a lovely little girl... really beautiful.  The image of her with the hat on is gorgeous but there is pain in her eyes in that picture.  My deepest condolences to the Laro family for all they are going through with their son and deceased grandaughter.

The family relationships are very confusing.  Even though Kayla and Celina don't look that much alike they are both Louisia and Adams children.  They are both Leros and Adam mentioned in an interview that he left the family home when Celina was 3 months old.  As far as Kevin, he does look like Celina but as far as the neighbors know he's the son of a former boyfriend of Louisia.  I believe that he is also her child.  She has him living with her but 'former boyfriend' is no where in sight. 

It ticks me off that Celina's mom has made no plea and is hiding her head under a blanket.  I would be a mess too but I'd be shouting from the rooftops, that is, unless I knew what happened.  Creepy stepdad is playing crazy and is guilty as sin in my opinion.  He did make one statement in the beginning that made no sense to me and has since dummied up.  Yet the man who is deathly ill and looks sincerely sad, Adam Lero, is the only one who has the 'you know whats' to make a plea and give interviews.  It's infuriating.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 07:04:18 PM

TCUmom,  You are correct, Crystal McKeraney belongs to the family. 


Wade F Mckearney
W Mckearney
Lori Lea Mckearney
Leona A Mckearney
Crystal Mckearney

Could she be Mom to Wade McKearney? (Lori's, DH)

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=Wade&qmi=&qn=Mc+Kearney&qcs=stewardstown%2C+nh&focusfirst=1

Here is crystal's FB page. Graduated HS in 2001, so too young to be Wade's mother.

Thank-you, MaryCat,


Crystal is a daughter.  A newspaper got it wrong, said Celina lived with an Aunt, Crystal would be the Cousin, silly me, I was looking for an aunt.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 05, 2011, 07:16:58 PM
One of the monkeys, cleverly, mentioned that the Consignment shop was closed on Mondays, according to the sign on the door. I am just going by my memory bank.

The reason why I am mentioning this detail, the Monkey mentioned Celina went missing on a Monday, and mom, reportly, went to work.  If the day Celina disappeared was on a Monday, and the if the shop was closed on a Monday, what does that tell us?

IMO and Questions... ::MonkeyTongue::




Wasn't it Wendall that supposedly said that Louisa went to work that day.  Yet the lady next door, Debbie something who reported Celina missing, said when she got to the house Louisa was there, but so upset she could barely get any info out of her. So Mom was home right before 9am when her daughter was reported missing.  I really don't know if she went to work or not that morning.  The shop may have been closed on Mondays but they may have used that day to go through new consignments, reduce prices on sale items..etc....But keep in mind it is Wendall that said she went to work..and Debbie that says she was at home when she came to the house to see what was going on after Kayla came to her.

I also read in the Colebrook weekly paper article that Louisa was so distraught that on July 26 she was taken to a hospital, treated for stress and released.  Then we have Wendall doing fine up until Aug 1st..when he finds out that they are searching the river..and he proceeds to fling himself on the ground...and then he is taken to the hospital by ambulance..treated and released.  Then a few days later when they take his truck and tape off the house..he goes back to the hospital.

Meanwhile  Adam has been in a medically induced coma for his heart..is released from the hospital towards the end of the week last week..where they are aware his daughter is missing..and told to go home and avoid stress?

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::

Very interesting. ::rhino:: 

I am betting Kevin, is her son, and that creepy WN, are both are culprits, IMO.  I found a Kevin M. Cass on a search,
think it was on peoplesmart.com "reverse address" (I believe) I typed in Washington street, Cass, (no first name)
and to my surprise, Kevin M. Cass, surfaced, the other day. Celina said Kevin is her brother, I believe Celina, more than mom.
 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 05, 2011, 07:27:13 PM
Here is a map of where the consignment shop is located -

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?pq=google+maps&hl=en&cp=4&gs_id=j&xhr=t&qe=TGFkcw&qesig=vkr3x6V5t3Dx9zb5p-lrWg&pkc=AFgZ2tlihPTZGKS9rxN-2Kv8AdNfaGrc7hZc42odu4BByvCdmH6S739jI8JK3em58dZqHUCFUzwFep_5ma1wS_Mfh4EoK6uiVQ&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS299&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1207&bih=678&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Lads+and+Ladybugs+consignment+New+Hampshire&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Lads+and+Ladybugs+consignment&hnear=0x4cb3444b9dc0a6eb:0xd7c802af25a680eb,New+Hampshire&cid=17130456833045237122

How far is this from the house?
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 05, 2011, 07:28:57 PM
I recall seeing a posting that states that Kevin slept in the same room with the girls...it seemed to be a late night post, I was tired and didn't respond...I have searched but cannot find it...anyone else remember that?

I posted this on the last thread..

NECN has learned that Celina and her sister had recently been sleeping in the basement of their house while a family friend, 23-year-old Kevin Mullaney, was staying with them in Celina's room.

http://www.necn.com/08/03/11/Officials-tow-car-in-Celina-Cass-investi/landing_newengland.html?blockID=545812&feedID=4206


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 05, 2011, 07:30:01 PM
Adam Lero (brother of Celina) seen with his father.
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/father.jpg)

Is this the same guy in this picture?
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/celine.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 05, 2011, 07:39:46 PM

TCUmom,  You are correct, Crystal McKeraney belongs to the family. 


Wade F Mckearney
W Mckearney
Lori Lea Mckearney
Leona A Mckearney
Crystal Mckearney

Could she be Mom to Wade McKearney? (Lori's, DH)

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=Wade&qmi=&qn=Mc+Kearney&qcs=stewardstown%2C+nh&focusfirst=1

.    MCKEARNEY, WADE F (Age 47)
   Available(3)    Available    NORTH STRATFORD, NH
N STRATFORD, NH
GROVETON, NH    Possible Relatives:

MCKEARNEY, ARTHUR F (Age 70)
MCKEARNEY, LORI L (Age 47)
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp?fn=Wade+&mn=&ln=+Mckearney&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&city=&state=NH&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=72&y=15


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 05, 2011, 07:39:55 PM
Hate to keep harping on this but when was the last time Celina was seen by someone outside the group she lived with.

Have no clue...Good question.
 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2011, 07:41:03 PM
One of the monkeys, cleverly, mentioned that the Consignment shop was closed on Mondays, according to the sign on the door. I am just going by my memory bank.

The reason why I am mentioning this detail, the Monkey mentioned Celina went missing on a Monday, and mom, reportly, went to work.  If the day Celina disappeared was on a Monday, and the if the shop was closed on a Monday, what does that tell us?

IMO and Questions... ::MonkeyTongue::




Celina was last seen alive Monday night at 9pm. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2011, 07:42:25 PM
Adam Lero (brother of Celina) seen with his father.
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/father.jpg)

Is this the same guy in this picture?
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/celine.jpg)

The guy with the baseball cap on the right in back is the same in both photos.  The guy holding onto Celina's mom is not Celina's father but it doesn't look like Noyes either so I'm not sure who it is.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 05, 2011, 07:50:40 PM
Adam Lero (brother of Celina) seen with his father.
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/father.jpg)

Is this the same guy in this picture?
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/celine.jpg)

The guy with the baseball cap on the right in back is the same in both photos.  The guy holding onto Celina's mom is not Celina's father but it doesn't look like Noyes either so I'm not sure who it is.

The father said that Adam was their brother not 1/2 brother and then he shows up at LN's house. He lives in Canaan and wonder if Louisa is his mother.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 05, 2011, 07:54:32 PM
morning monkeys,ive dont have time to read it yet,so i dont know whats up,saw the vid
update #8,as always The Colebrook Chronicle, show more than the mainstream news
source, The Colebrook Chronicle have a facebook too.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Colebrook-Chronicle/169865517777


Thank you for this link.  The Chronicle has more info then the others..well so far.

I noted in their article they say that her comforter and pillow were on the couch.  Also they state about her last being seen 9pm 7/25 on her computer in her bedroom..but that the girls were sleeping downstairs in the basement on an air mattress.

I wonder if Kevin worked..and if so what shift?  Would he be coming home late after everyone else was in bed if he worked  second shift?  Or did he go out that evening?  We have heard where everyone in the family was that night and the next morning but Kevin.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 05, 2011, 08:02:26 PM
Adam Lero (brother of Celina) seen with his father.
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/father.jpg)

Is this the same guy in this picture?
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/celine.jpg)

The guy with the baseball cap on the right in back is the same in both photos.  The guy holding onto Celina's mom is not Celina's father but it doesn't look like Noyes either so I'm not sure who it is.

The father said that Adam was their brother not 1/2 brother and then he shows up at LN's house. He lives in Canaan and wonder if Louisa is his mother.

Noyes doesn't look like his facebook picture. It could be Noyes holdin Louisa
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/vigil-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 05, 2011, 08:17:50 PM
morning monkeys,ive dont have time to read it yet,so i dont know whats up,saw the vid
update #8,as always The Colebrook Chronicle, show more than the mainstream news
source, The Colebrook Chronicle have a facebook too.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Colebrook-Chronicle/169865517777


Thank you for this link.  The Chronicle has more info then the others..well so far.

I noted in their article they say that her comforter and pillow were on the couch.  Also they state about her last being seen 9pm 7/25 on her computer in her bedroom..but that the girls were sleeping downstairs in the basement on an air mattress.

I wonder if Kevin worked..and if so what shift?  Would he be coming home late after everyone else was in bed if he worked  second shift?  Or did he go out that evening?  We have heard where everyone in the family was that night and the next morning but Kevin.

What IF the step dad didn't see her?
We're all going on what everyone is saying as truth.
Why didn't we get to hear from the sister?
I'd like to hear what she has to say about a lot of things.
 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 08:30:17 PM
Good evening Monkey's,

Where is Sandra Cass?

George D Cass, age 70 (This is Dad who passed away 2004)
Lancaster, NH   
 
Sandra Cass

Louisia M Cass

Del O Cass

Intelius lists Sandra Cass as a George Cass relative .  Why can't we find Sandra Cass?  She is not his mother, she is not his sister, and she is not his child.  I have the obit memorized.  Where is Sandra?   ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=&qmi=&qn=Cass&qcs=lancaster%2C+nh&focusfirst=1


Okay, monkeys, let's figure out if this is the elusive Sandra.

ARTHUR BROWNG
     Korean War veteran Arthur "Art" R. Brown, 72 ,of Bog Road in Stratford, died peacefully at his stepson's house in
Lunenburg on Friday, February 6, 2004, where he had lived for the past three weeks.
     Born on March 12, 1931 in Grafton, N.H., he was the son of Carl and Ethel (Portigue) Brown, and lived in the
Stratford area most of his life. He was a veteran of the Army, serving in the Korean Conflict. Before retiring, he worked
for Gilman Mill for 20 years. He still mowed the lawns at Indian River Trailer Park in Lancaster, and was already
talking about mowing again this summer. He also enjoyed plowing in the wintertime, hunting and fishing.
     Mr. Brown is survived by his wife of 10 years, Joanne (Anas-kowich) Brown of Stratford and Lunenburg; a stepson,
Edward, and his wife Sheila McFarland of Lunenburg; seven grandchildren and eleven great-grandchildren.
     His stepdaughter, Sandra Cass, predeceased him.
     Calling hours were held on Sunday, February 8 at the Main-Armstrong Funeral Home in Groveton. Funeral services were
held on Monday at the funeral home, with the Rev. Lawrence Clough officiating. Burial with military honors will be in
the spring in the Northumberland Cemetery.

http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/state/obits/2004/cole20040211.txt



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 10:39:45 PM
Adam Lero (brother of Celina) seen with his father.
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/father.jpg)

Is this the same guy in this picture?
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/celine.jpg)

That Adam Lero's Adam son in both pictures with his father.  I can't figure out who the other man is but I believe that Kayla, Celina's sister, on the other side of Louisia.  If you compare that with the other picture of her, the face is the same. 

I cam across an older article that I've never seen before and was surprised to learn that Adam Lero and Louisia never married.  She had the two girls together with Adam and Mulvenney is the son of a former boyfriend.

http://www.newhampshire.com/article/20110804/NEWS03/708049971/0/newhampshire03


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 10:49:32 PM
Celina is going to be cremated.

http://m.christianpost.com/news/celina-cass-body-found-wrapped-in-blanket-53462/

Cass’ grandmother said Celina will be placed in a pink casket and her body will be cremated. Marcia Laro declined to say where the private service will be held.

I know that her body was found in a blanket but I've been looking for confirmation that Celina's body was found wrapped in a blanket from her home but have found nothing. 

Has that been confirmed?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 10:55:49 PM
Thanks for posting that article.  If anything, now I feel even worse for Adam Laro.  sad.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 10:55:56 PM
Does anyone know the exact address of Celina's house?  I've seen both Route 3 and Washington in West Stewartstown, NH.  TIA


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 10:57:25 PM
Oh, gosh.  I know it was a huge discussion a couple of nights ago, late evening.  Sorry I can't do any better than that.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 10:58:20 PM
Does anyone know the exact address of Celina's house?  I've seen both Route 3 and Washington in West Stewartstown, NH.  TIA

From memory I am saying 863 Washington St Stewartstown, NH...I will go and verify shortly.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 05, 2011, 11:28:56 PM
I know it's a remote area but geez, google maps just won't give me directions or a distance.  I am typing From:  863 Washington Street, Stewartstown, NH - then To:  26 South Main Street,  Colebrook, NH 03576.  It has Destination: so I typed in Lads and Ladybugs Consignment Shop but nada.  It will show me the location of the shop but nothing else. 

I was just trying to figure out how long it would take Louisia to get to and from work.  Oh well.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 11:34:52 PM
I know it's a remote area but geez, google maps just won't give me directions or a distance.  I am typing From:  863 Washington Street, Stewartstown, NH - then To:  26 South Main Street,  Colebrook, NH 03576.  It has Destination: so I typed in Lads and Ladybugs Consignment Shop but nada.  It will show me the location of the shop but nothing else. 

I was just trying to figure out how long it would take Louisia to get to and from work.  Oh well.
what about using the address of that store across the street from where Celina lived? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2011, 11:34:53 PM
I know it's a remote area but geez, google maps just won't give me directions or a distance.  I am typing From:  863 Washington Street, Stewartstown, NH - then To:  26 South Main Street,  Colebrook, NH 03576.  It has Destination: so I typed in Lads and Ladybugs Consignment Shop but nada.  It will show me the location of the shop but nothing else. 

I was just trying to figure out how long it would take Louisia to get to and from work.  Oh well.

I had the same issue of the map not recognizing that exact address (Washington St)...try using Street view from Main St and walking back toward Washington because Washington is right off of Main St.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 11:35:55 PM
never mind ~ I wasn't paying attention.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 05, 2011, 11:38:54 PM
I know it's a remote area but geez, google maps just won't give me directions or a distance.  I am typing From:  863 Washington Street, Stewartstown, NH - then To:  26 South Main Street,  Colebrook, NH 03576.  It has Destination: so I typed in Lads and Ladybugs Consignment Shop but nada.  It will show me the location of the shop but nothing else. 

I was just trying to figure out how long it would take Louisia to get to and from work.  Oh well.

Try this :   http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lads-and-Ladybugs-Consignment-Shop/187658797947913?sk=info 

The info page has the address and click to get directions.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 12:30:59 AM
Could this be it?  If it is, it's not far at all.

http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&pc=FACEBK&mid=8100&rtp=adr.~pos.44.89738_-71.49454_Lads+and+Ladybugs+Consignment+Shop_153+Main+Street%2C+Colebrook%2C+NH+03597&cp=44.89738~-71.49454&lvl=16&sty=r&rtop=0~0~0~&mode=D&FORM=FBKPL1&mkt=en-US#Y3A9NDQuOTQxNzY1NzcwMTIyMzJ+LTcxLjUxMTYzNzg2NjQ5NzA0Jmx2bD0xMiZzdHk9ciZydHA9cG9zLjQ0Ljg4ODQzOF8tNzEuNTAwNzUyXzI2JTIwUyUyME1haW4lMjBTdCUyQyUyMENvbGVicm9vayUyQyUyME5IJTIwMDM1NzYtMzYwMV9fX2VffnBvcy40NC45OTUwMDkwMDAwMDAwMl8tNzEuNTMxNDMzMDAwMDAwMDRfV2VzdCUyMFN0ZXdhcnRzdG93biUyQyUyME5IX19fZV8mbW9kZT1EJnJ0b3A9MH4wfjB+ (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&pc=FACEBK&mid=8100&rtp=adr.~pos.44.89738_-71.49454_Lads+and+Ladybugs+Consignment+Shop_153+Main+Street%2C+Colebrook%2C+NH+03597&cp=44.89738~-71.49454&lvl=16&sty=r&rtop=0~0~0~&mode=D&FORM=FBKPL1&mkt=en-US#Y3A9NDQuOTQxNzY1NzcwMTIyMzJ+LTcxLjUxMTYzNzg2NjQ5NzA0Jmx2bD0xMiZzdHk9ciZydHA9cG9zLjQ0Ljg4ODQzOF8tNzEuNTAwNzUyXzI2JTIwUyUyME1haW4lMjBTdCUyQyUyMENvbGVicm9vayUyQyUyME5IJTIwMDM1NzYtMzYwMV9fX2VffnBvcy40NC45OTUwMDkwMDAwMDAwMl8tNzEuNTMxNDMzMDAwMDAwMDRfV2VzdCUyMFN0ZXdhcnRzdG93biUyQyUyME5IX19fZV8mbW9kZT1EJnJ0b3A9MH4wfjB+)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: grace-land on August 06, 2011, 12:35:40 AM
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0806healing_process_begins_festival_brings_town_together/srvc=home&position=also

Healing process’ begins
Festival brings town together
By John Zaremba
Saturday, August 6, 2011 - Updated 6 minutes ago

STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. — Just a day ago, the idea of anyone doing the chicken dance would have seemed cruelly absurd in this North Country hamlet, where people spent the week tossed between grief and anxiety after the body of Celina Cass was found Monday in the Connecticut River.

But dance and sing they did last night as the town kicked off its annual Stewartstown Days summer festival, using the celebration as a break from mourning as its residents come to terms with the mysterious disappearance and death of the exuberant 11-year-old girl.

 ::snipping2::

Celina’s parents, Louisa Noyes and Adam Laro, were spotted at the festival surrounded by a phalanx of family and friends who sought privacy from the local media.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
It's not working when I link it.  It pops up for half a second then disappears.  I used the hyperlink tool to post the directions.  Am I doing something wrong?  If anyone can tell me how to capture the map I have, I'll do it.

Anyway, the map I have from Bing says 8.5 miles and 12 minutes.  A very short distance.  So Louisia could have been home quickly.  But there's still the question of why Wendell waited until she went to work, then looked for Celina and supposedly found her missing and then called Louisia.  That's just a little bit too convenient for me.  And again, the nagging question of why was he allegedly looking for her at 9 a.m. on a summer, non school day.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 05:30:08 AM
Good evening Monkey's,

Where is Sandra Cass?

George D Cass, age 70 (This is Dad who passed away 2004)
Lancaster, NH   
 
Sandra Cass

Louisia M Cass

Del O Cass

Intelius lists Sandra Cass as a George Cass relative .  Why can't we find Sandra Cass?  She is not his mother, she is not his sister, and she is not his child.  I have the obit memorized.  Where is Sandra?   ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=&qmi=&qn=Cass&qcs=lancaster%2C+nh&focusfirst=1


Okay, monkeys, let's figure out if this is the elusive Sandra.

ARTHUR BROWNG
     Korean War veteran Arthur "Art" R. Brown, 72 ,of Bog Road in Stratford, died peacefully at his stepson's house in
Lunenburg on Friday, February 6, 2004, where he had lived for the past three weeks.
     Born on March 12, 1931 in Grafton, N.H., he was the son of Carl and Ethel (Portigue) Brown, and lived in the
Stratford area most of his life. He was a veteran of the Army, serving in the Korean Conflict. Before retiring, he worked
for Gilman Mill for 20 years. He still mowed the lawns at Indian River Trailer Park in Lancaster, and was already
talking about mowing again this summer. He also enjoyed plowing in the wintertime, hunting and fishing.
     Mr. Brown is survived by his wife of 10 years, Joanne (Anas-kowich) Brown of Stratford and Lunenburg; a stepson,
Edward, and his wife Sheila McFarland of Lunenburg; seven grandchildren and eleven great-grandchildren.
     His stepdaughter, Sandra Cass, predeceased him.
     Calling hours were held on Sunday, February 8 at the Main-Armstrong Funeral Home in Groveton. Funeral services were
held on Monday at the funeral home, with the Rev. Lawrence Clough officiating. Burial with military honors will be in
the spring in the Northumberland Cemetery.

http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/state/obits/2004/cole20040211.txt



Good morning Monkey's,

Hi Tcumom,

Yes, this may be the elusive Sandra Cass!   I will check, again, rootweb.com (SSN) for her, (we are not permitted to publish
SSN records) but I will try to find a Cass, or all Cass' to see, if a record exists.

Thank-you, nice find.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 05:37:04 AM
Celina is going to be cremated.

http://m.christianpost.com/news/celina-cass-body-found-wrapped-in-blanket-53462/

Cass’ grandmother said Celina will be placed in a pink casket and her body will be cremated. Marcia Laro declined to say where the private service will be held.

I know that her body was found in a blanket but I've been looking for confirmation that Celina's body was found wrapped in a blanket from her home but have found nothing. 

Has that been confirmed?

Pattianne,

Nothing has been confirmed except "suspicious" death.
Celina will not even bury, just kind of flushed away, being cremated.  She should have a spot, where others can grieve and leave notes, flowers..IMO,



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 06, 2011, 06:18:08 AM
Didn't both sisters sleep in the basement?
Wouldn't Celina's sister have known she was gone and when?
Where was the sister at the time Celina went missing?

Who did the blanket belong to?
Was the blanket also tied or taped?
If you drop the body in the water, the blanket could of gotten unwrapped, I would think.

No one is leaking/giving any extra info out what so ever.
 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 06, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
im afraid celina father might not make it through this,as sick as he is

Celina Cass: Body to be Cremated After Funeral Service

August 5, 2011 8:37 AM

"Today was not good," Marcia Laro, the mother of Celina's dad, Adam Laro, told the Herald yesterday. "His heart is critical. He was supposed to have open-heart surgery, but he's too weak for it. . . . His health is very bad."

Adam Laro suffered congestive heart failure and spent more than a week in a coma prior to Celina's disappearance the night of July 25. He left the hospital last week and made a public plea for her return -- against doctors' advice, his family said.

Celina will be placed in a pink casket, and her body will be cremated, said Marcia Laro, who declined to say when the private service will be held.

"She loved pink -- it was her favorite color," she said.
http://www.urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/2011/08/celina-cass-body-to-be-cremated-after-funeral-service.html

vids
Celina Cass’s grandfather Wally Laro speaks out about his 11-year-old granddaughter’s death.

http://widget.newsinc.com/fullplayerwvars.html?wid=1957&cid=10819&spid=23491346&freewheel=90017&sitesection=bostonherald

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0805heart_woes_plague_father_as_plans_for_cass_funeral_finalized/srvc=home&position=also (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0805heart_woes_plague_father_as_plans_for_cass_funeral_finalized/srvc=home&position=also)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 06, 2011, 11:06:30 AM
Celina is going to be cremated.

http://m.christianpost.com/news/celina-cass-body-found-wrapped-in-blanket-53462/

Cass’ grandmother said Celina will be placed in a pink casket and her body will be cremated. Marcia Laro declined to say where the private service will be held.

I know that her body was found in a blanket but I've been looking for confirmation that Celina's body was found wrapped in a blanket from her home but have found nothing. 

Has that been confirmed?

Pattianne,

Nothing has been confirmed except "suspicious" death.
Celina will not even bury, just kind of flushed away, being cremated.  She should have a spot, where others can grieve and leave notes, flowers..IMO,



BBM

Cremation is a personal preference. My husband was cremated and scattered and it was his choice and he was not flushed and forgotten. Cremains can also be buried in a cemetery or put in a mausoleum or kept at home.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 11:08:43 AM
Didn't both sisters sleep in the basement?
Wouldn't Celina's sister have known she was gone and when?
Where was the sister at the time Celina went missing?

Who did the blanket belong to?
Was the blanket also tied or taped?
If you drop the body in the water, the blanket could of gotten unwrapped, I would think.

No one is leaking/giving any extra info out what so ever.
 ::HelloKitty::


seahorse, I know very little about cremation so I just looked it up.  Surprisingly, there are many different options, such as cremating the entire coffin, renting a coffin and just cremating the body, etc.  I hesitated to check this out but basically I wanted to know the cost because quite honestly I'm wondering about the donations that the family is asking for.  This case has received nationwide coverage so I imagine they will receive a lot of donations.  It's been reported that Celina will be  placed in a pink coffin and cremated.  Just checking the costs I would say that the medium cost is around $500.  Then I guess it depends if the family is going to put the ashes in an urn or have a burial plot.  All that is needed for the toxicology has already been done.  I'm guessing one of the reasons the family chose cremation is the condition of her body.  I'm thinking that maybe she was in the water from between the night of July 25 and 26th.

pharlap, Celina's sister Kayla was sleeping at a friends house that night.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 11:12:44 AM
im afraid celina father might not make it through this,as sick as he is

Celina Cass: Body to be Cremated After Funeral Service

August 5, 2011 8:37 AM

"Today was not good," Marcia Laro, the mother of Celina's dad, Adam Laro, told the Herald yesterday. "His heart is critical. He was supposed to have open-heart surgery, but he's too weak for it. . . . His health is very bad."

Adam Laro suffered congestive heart failure and spent more than a week in a coma prior to Celina's disappearance the night of July 25. He left the hospital last week and made a public plea for her return -- against doctors' advice, his family said.

Celina will be placed in a pink casket, and her body will be cremated, said Marcia Laro, who declined to say when the private service will be held.

"She loved pink -- it was her favorite color," she said.
http://www.urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/2011/08/celina-cass-body-to-be-cremated-after-funeral-service.html

vids
Celina Cass’s grandfather Wally Laro speaks out about his 11-year-old granddaughter’s death.

http://widget.newsinc.com/fullplayerwvars.html?wid=1957&cid=10819&spid=23491346&freewheel=90017&sitesection=bostonherald

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0805heart_woes_plague_father_as_plans_for_cass_funeral_finalized/srvc=home&position=also (http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0805heart_woes_plague_father_as_plans_for_cass_funeral_finalized/srvc=home&position=also)

I know cw618, it sure doesn't look good for him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2022969/Celina-Cass-dead-Father-Adam-Laro-seriously-ill-death.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 06, 2011, 11:18:22 AM
Celina's sister Kayla was sleeping at a friends house that night.
Tks, Pattianne
Was that a planned sleep over?

Have a feeling, we're not going to hear any updates till Le cracks the case.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 06, 2011, 11:20:13 AM
more sadness, i dont think the kids are understanding that there is a monster among them
all they feel is sad

i think all the pics here are under copyright
A friend’s note stands out at the memorial to Celina Cass in West Stewartstown, N.H.
img
http://www.bostonherald.com/galleries/index.php?gallery_id=5595&p=9


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 06, 2011, 11:35:52 AM
Wonder if this doorway was used.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/pharlap_9999/Celina/c21.jpg)

You can see the green trash can.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/pharlap_9999/Celina/c20.jpg)
 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 06, 2011, 12:06:05 PM
not sure if Kevin Mullaney,was figured out,here is what i found

 ::snipping2::
Friends close to Louisa Noyes say Mullaney, 23, is the son of a former boyfriend and moved into the Noyes' home about a year ago, joining Wendell and Louisa Noyes and her children, Celina and her older sister, Kayla.
http://lancasteronline.com/article/ap/432512_Stepdad-s-pickup-taken-from-home-of-dead-NH-girl.html


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 12:13:19 PM
not sure if Kevin Mullaney,was figured out,here is what i found

 ::snipping2::
Friends close to Louisa Noyes say Mullaney, 23, is the son of a former boyfriend and moved into the Noyes' home about a year ago, joining Wendell and Louisa Noyes and her children, Celina and her older sister, Kayla.
http://lancasteronline.com/article/ap/432512_Stepdad-s-pickup-taken-from-home-of-dead-NH-girl.html

I think he looks very much like Celina and I'm betting he is a son of Louisia.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 06, 2011, 12:41:33 PM
just some bigger imgs links from google img,and some observations

what is the silver shiny thing on the ledge,the officer is pointing
to,sorta looks like a fishing rod
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg

another img of the shiny thing/click pic make big
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

looking under the silver truck
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_celina_cass_truck_sc_110803_wg.jpg

the man holding L cass is looking right at the cam
big pic
http://media.klewtv.com/images/110728_missing_girl_2.jpg

this guy is looking at the cam too click for big
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg

do you know any of these people
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/a380141ac13b2d10f40e6a706700fe2c_0.jpg


house imgs
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/d7c03d103bcfb811f40e6a706700af6b_2.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/u28hd08/home.jpg










Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 06, 2011, 01:05:42 PM
just some bigger imgs links from google img,and some observations

what is the silver shiny thing on the ledge,the officer is pointing
to,sorta looks like a fishing rod
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg

another img of the shiny thing/click pic make big
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

looking under the silver truck
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_celina_cass_truck_sc_110803_wg.jpg

the man holding L cass is looking right at the cam
big pic
http://media.klewtv.com/images/110728_missing_girl_2.jpg

this guy is looking at the cam too click for big
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg

do you know any of these people
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/a380141ac13b2d10f40e6a706700fe2c_0.jpg


house imgs
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/d7c03d103bcfb811f40e6a706700af6b_2.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/u28hd08/home.jpg










Thanks for the pics CW. I am interested in the guy in the ball cap. Could that be Kevin? He is dark, hands look like a young man. Notice the long pinky nail on his right hand?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 06, 2011, 01:13:44 PM
just some bigger imgs links from google img,and some observations

what is the silver shiny thing on the ledge,the officer is pointing
to,sorta looks like a fishing rod
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg

another img of the shiny thing/click pic make big
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

looking under the silver truck
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_celina_cass_truck_sc_110803_wg.jpg

the man holding L cass is looking right at the cam
big pic
http://media.klewtv.com/images/110728_missing_girl_2.jpg

this guy is looking at the cam too click for big
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg

do you know any of these people
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/a380141ac13b2d10f40e6a706700fe2c_0.jpg


house imgs
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/d7c03d103bcfb811f40e6a706700af6b_2.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/u28hd08/home.jpg










Thanks for the pics CW. I am interested in the guy in the ball cap. Could that be Kevin? He is dark, hands look like a young man. Notice the long pinky nail on his right hand?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg


And does he have a goatee? It looks like a wad of long hair under his hand covering his mouth. I haven't seen any other pics or FB people with a goatee that I remember.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 06, 2011, 01:14:19 PM
Celina is going to be cremated.

http://m.christianpost.com/news/celina-cass-body-found-wrapped-in-blanket-53462/

Cass’ grandmother said Celina will be placed in a pink casket and her body will be cremated. Marcia Laro declined to say where the private service will be held.

I know that her body was found in a blanket but I've been looking for confirmation that Celina's body was found wrapped in a blanket from her home but have found nothing. 

Has that been confirmed?

Pattianne,

Nothing has been confirmed except "suspicious" death.
Celina will not even bury, just kind of flushed away, being cremated.  She should have a spot, where others can grieve and leave notes, flowers..IMO,



BBM

Cremation is a personal preference. My husband was cremated and scattered and it was his choice and he was not flushed and forgotten. Cremains can also be buried in a cemetery or put in a mausoleum or kept at home.

I agree 4 Donks.  As requested ... my parents were cremated following their memorials ten years apart.  My brothers and I set aside a day and drove to the bridge over the Vedder Canal where our Mom and Dad had become engaged while serving in the Canadian forces in Chilliwack, BC in 1942.

I had and still have mixed feeling but ... it wasn't about me ... it was about our parents' respective wishes.

As long as investigators had gleaned all that was necessary in regards to evidence ... burial or cremation ... it just does not matter.

Janet


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 06, 2011, 02:35:33 PM
someplace here at SM, i read that the river is only 6-7' and the water had to be let down
to search,so it was shallower when celina was found, so when it was higher at the 6-7',means
someone used a boat,raft,a floating something,that should narrow it some,wonder if an air
mat is missing

Christianpost.com
Fri, Aug. 05 2011 06:12 PM EDT
Celina Cass: Officials State Divers Found Body Wrapped in Blanket
By Ravelle Mohammed
 ::snipping2::
Adam Laro, Celina’s biological father told WMUR Wednesday, that he could only guess what might have happened to his daughter.
 
Laro said, “She could have slipped off and fell, banged her head. We don’t know. But they claim they found, what looks like her body was placed in the water. That’s the scary part.”
http://m.christianpost.com/news/celina-cass-body-found-wrapped-in-blanket-53462/





Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 03:00:26 PM
Wonder if this doorway was used.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/pharlap_9999/Celina/c21.jpg)

You can see the green trash can.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/pharlap_9999/Celina/c20.jpg)
 ::HelloKitty::
Just catching up.  Maybe someone's commented on down the thread.

Wondering if she was put in the green trash can......it was loaded on the back of the silver pickup truck to be checked out.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 06, 2011, 03:06:46 PM
I'm trying to think outside the box for a second. For only a second.

So, first... does anyone think that Celina died of heat exhaustion? It has been brutally hot this summer, and she was sleeping in the basement (which can be colder than above-ground temps, but still hot.) Her sister is rumored to have been spending the night with a friend, and if that was true then Celina was sleeping alone in the basement that night.

Second... I doubt Celina used drugs, though nobody can really tell these days who is into it and who isn't. So, does anyone think that Celina was poisoned? Maybe accidentally?

I figure that if any of the two above happened, that the stepfather could've panicked and got rid of the body in a place he already knew.

Wrapping someone in sheets or blankets shows a family member who cares for the person who died, as I have seen on many a TV episode of SVU.

Sorry, just trying to see this thing from different angles, and for only a second.

:)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 03:06:52 PM
not sure if Kevin Mullaney,was figured out,here is what i found

 ::snipping2::
Friends close to Louisa Noyes say Mullaney, 23, is the son of a former boyfriend and moved into the Noyes' home about a year ago, joining Wendell and Louisa Noyes and her children, Celina and her older sister, Kayla.
http://lancasteronline.com/article/ap/432512_Stepdad-s-pickup-taken-from-home-of-dead-NH-girl.html

I think he looks very much like Celina and I'm betting he is a son of Louisia.
I agree.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 03:12:43 PM
I'm trying to think outside the box for a second. For only a second.

So, first... does anyone think that Celina died of heat exhaustion? It has been brutally hot this summer, and she was sleeping in the basement (which can be colder than above-ground temps, but still hot.) Her sister is rumored to have been spending the night with a friend, and if that was true then Celina was sleeping alone in the basement that night.

Second... I doubt Celina used drugs, though nobody can really tell these days who is into it and who isn't. So, does anyone think that Celina was poisoned? Maybe accidentally?

I figure that if any of the two above happened, that the stepfather could've panicked and got rid of the body in a place he already knew.

Wrapping someone in sheets or blankets shows a family member who cares for the person who died, as I have seen on many a TV episode of SVU.

Sorry, just trying to see this thing from different angles, and for only a second.

:)

Yes.  Also, I can see someone doing that to make sure no evidence falls out or whatever.......in other words the blanket or sheet is what is available.  Beats me. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 06, 2011, 03:34:27 PM
snip
tcumom
I can see someone doing that to make sure no evidence falls out or whatever.
..........................................

I agree with you on that part.

I'm sure Le is finding out what brand, where the blanket was sold and who it belongs to.
That would be the key to unravel the case.

 ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 03:37:23 PM
Didn't both sisters sleep in the basement?
Wouldn't Celina's sister have known she was gone and when?
Where was the sister at the time Celina went missing?

Who did the blanket belong to?
Was the blanket also tied or taped?
If you drop the body in the water, the blanket could of gotten unwrapped, I would think.

No one is leaking/giving any extra info out what so ever.
 ::HelloKitty::


seahorse, I know very little about cremation so I just looked it up.  Surprisingly, there are many different options, such as cremating the entire coffin, renting a coffin and just cremating the body, etc.  I hesitated to check this out but basically I wanted to know the cost because quite honestly I'm wondering about the donations that the family is asking for.  This case has received nationwide coverage so I imagine they will receive a lot of donations.  It's been reported that Celina will be  placed in a pink coffin and cremated.  Just checking the costs I would say that the medium cost is around $500.  Then I guess it depends if the family is going to put the ashes in an urn or have a burial plot.  All that is needed for the toxicology has already been done.  I'm guessing one of the reasons the family chose cremation is the condition of her body.  I'm thinking that maybe she was in the water from between the night of July 25 and 26th.

pharlap, Celina's sister Kayla was sleeping at a friends house that night.

Good afternoon Monkey's,

Pattyanne, Thank-you, I have not changed with the times on cremation.  It was against my religion at one point, the religion
changed it view, but I still don't.  I guess ashes to ashes, it is the Lord who turns us to ashes.

Perhaps the inteligent reason, is what you suggested.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 03:41:54 PM
Do the monkeys think that WN was into S/M ?  I do not know how to politely ask, and not be obnoxious.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 03:43:55 PM
Celina is going to be cremated.

http://m.christianpost.com/news/celina-cass-body-found-wrapped-in-blanket-53462/

Cass’ grandmother said Celina will be placed in a pink casket and her body will be cremated. Marcia Laro declined to say where the private service will be held.

I know that her body was found in a blanket but I've been looking for confirmation that Celina's body was found wrapped in a blanket from her home but have found nothing. 

Has that been confirmed?

Pattianne,

Nothing has been confirmed except "suspicious" death.
Celina will not even bury, just kind of flushed away, being cremated.  She should have a spot, where others can grieve and leave notes, flowers..IMO,



BBM

Cremation is a personal preference. My husband was cremated and scattered and it was his choice and he was not flushed and forgotten. Cremains can also be buried in a cemetery or put in a mausoleum or kept at home.

My religion was against when I grew up, and now they changed and I haven't.  I would like to be in a mausoleum.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 03:48:12 PM
just some bigger imgs links from google img,and some observations

what is the silver shiny thing on the ledge,the officer is pointing
to,sorta looks like a fishing rod
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg

another img of the shiny thing/click pic make big
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

looking under the silver truck
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_celina_cass_truck_sc_110803_wg.jpg

the man holding L cass is looking right at the cam
big pic
http://media.klewtv.com/images/110728_missing_girl_2.jpg

this guy is looking at the cam too click for big
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg

do you know any of these people
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/a380141ac13b2d10f40e6a706700fe2c_0.jpg


house imgs
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/d7c03d103bcfb811f40e6a706700af6b_2.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/u28hd08/home.jpg


cw618,

You have an Eagle eye, ::MonkeyEek:: yes, the policeman appears to be pointing at the fishing rod.

Thank-you for the links, need to browse for photos of Donny and Del Cass, brothers of Louisia.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 03:48:42 PM
Do the monkeys think that WN was into S/M ?  I do not know how to politely ask, and not be obnoxious.  ::MonkeyCool::
ewwww. 
Should I ask why you're wondering?  ha.
Did any of his very close FB friends indicate an interest in S/M?    :puker:


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 04:50:55 PM
Joy Cass ~ wife of Del O. Cass (Louisia Cass' brother)

http://www.facebook.com/joy.cass?sk=wall

Has a wall up, and I see her sister has Celina's picture as her avatar or whatever-it's-called.
Haven't read the wall, yet.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 05:15:01 PM
Joy Cass ~ wife of Del O. Cass (Louisia Cass' brother)

http://www.facebook.com/joy.cass?sk=wall

Has a wall up, and I see her sister has Celina's picture as her avatar or whatever-it's-called.
Haven't read the wall, yet.

Thank-you for Joy's FB. 

Dad son owned a Laudramat? Joy and Del Cass?   Dad would socialize at the business, goodness. :)


Enjoyed people ( ME: & clean laundry)

LANCASTER Ñ George D. Cass, 62, of Powder Hill Drive, died suddenly at
his home on Saturday morning, March 6, 2004.

 ::snipping2::


He was a well-known local who enjoyed socializing with people at downtown stores and at the
Laundromat owned by his son and daughter-in-law.
     

 Family members include three sons, Del Cass and his wife Joy of
Jefferson, Donny Cass of Whitefield, Wayne Reed Sr. and his wife Valerie of
Jefferson; two daughters, Lori McKearney of Lancaster, Louisia Cass of West
Stewartstown; his mother, Ernestine (Cass) Blanchard of Whitefield; a
sister, Joyce Dupont of Lancaster; thirteen grandchildren; and one
great-granddaughter.

     
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 05:18:03 PM
Do the monkeys think that WN was into S/M ?  I do not know how to politely ask, and not be obnoxious.  ::MonkeyCool::
ewwww. 
Should I ask why you're wondering?  ha.
Did any of his very close FB friends indicate an interest in S/M?    :puker:

TCUmom,

I will get wrinkles if I think of this fruitcake.  I am going to discipline myself to stick with Dad, King of the Laudramat.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 06, 2011, 05:27:54 PM
Canaan, VT
Colebrook, NH
Mountain Home A F B, ID
Plattsburgh, NY
Mountain Home Afb,ID

Has anyone checked WN's former addresses to see where his past criminal record was.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 05:39:25 PM
Joy Cass ~ wife of Del O. Cass (Louisia Cass' brother)

http://www.facebook.com/joy.cass?sk=wall

Has a wall up, and I see her sister has Celina's picture as her avatar or whatever-it's-called.
Haven't read the wall, yet.


http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/state/obits/2004/coos20040310.txt (fourth obit down on link)

      ::snipping2::
     Family members include three sons, Del Cass and his wife Joy of
Jefferson, Donny Cass of Whitefield, Wayne Reed Sr. and his wife Valerie of
Jefferson; two daughters, Lori McKearney of Lancaster, Louisia Cass of West
Stewartstown; his mother, Ernestine (Cass) Blanchard of Whitefield; a
sister, Joyce Dupont of Lancaster;
  ::snipping2::


http://www.facebook.com/joy.cass?sk=wall#!/joyce.dupont  This should Aunt Joyce to Louisia.  I gleaned the page
from Joy's FB. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Anna on August 06, 2011, 05:43:28 PM
I don't mean to be unkind but I do not believe Celina's dental problems stem from anyone pulling on her tooth with a string but rather appears to me to be some sort of bone deformity/almost cleft pallet situation.

I believe something this severe would have been covered by Medicaid or some charity.  Maybe I am wrong but that is what I think.  Her parents could have done something about correcting this as this severe of a problem is just seldom seen these days in this country,

I think it is clear evidence of neglect on the part of her parents specifically her mother.

It makes me feel so bad for her. ::MonkeyWaa::

To think she had such a short life and had to be lived with this when it is unnecessary  just makes it all the worse. . . .

 ::crymonkey2::

Parents who would not try to fix this must not care much about her and I don't buy she had an appointment just the next week either.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 05:55:57 PM
Do the monkeys think that WN was into S/M ?  I do not know how to politely ask, and not be obnoxious.  ::MonkeyCool::
ewwww. 
Should I ask why you're wondering?  ha.
Did any of his very close FB friends indicate an interest in S/M?    :puker:

TCUmom,

I will get wrinkles if I think of this fruitcake.  I am going to discipline myself to stick with Dad, King of the Laudramat.  ::rhino::

I needed that laugh today ~ thank you!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

You know, this town/area is beginning to remind me of a milquetoast version of a Stephen King novel.  I can't put my finger on why, though.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 06:00:39 PM
I don't mean to be unkind but I do not believe Celina's dental problems stem from anyone pulling on her tooth with a string but rather appears to me to be some sort of bone deformity/almost cleft pallet situation.

I believe something this severe would have been covered by Medicaid or some charity.  Maybe I am wrong but that is what I think.  Her parents could have done something about correcting this as this severe of a problem is just seldom seen these days in this country,

I think it is clear evidence of neglect on the part of her parents specifically her mother.

It makes me feel so bad for her. ::MonkeyWaa::

To think she had such a short life and had to be lived with this when it is unnecessary  just makes it all the worse. . . .

 ::crymonkey2::

Parents who would not try to fix this must not care much about her and I don't buy she had an appointment just the next week either.

Anna ~ I so agree with you on *all* of the above.  The minute I heard that about having an appointment next week, I thought, yeah~right. 
They probably read/heard so much mentioned about her tooth, they felt the need to address it.  Too bad it couldn't have been addressed earlier.
I was just thinking.....at my middle school, if a student has a *situation* like that, the school nurse and district are able to contact various persons who could/would help.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 06:31:28 PM
Do the monkeys think that WN was into S/M ?  I do not know how to politely ask, and not be obnoxious.  ::MonkeyCool::
ewwww. 
Should I ask why you're wondering?  ha.
Did any of his very close FB friends indicate an interest in S/M?    :puker:

TCUmom,

I will get wrinkles if I think of this fruitcake.  I am going to discipline myself to stick with Dad, King of the Laudramat.  ::rhino::

I needed that laugh today ~ thank you!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

You know, this town/area is beginning to remind me of a milquetoast version of a Stephen King novel.  I can't put my finger on why, though.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Good Evening Monkey's,


I saw only one SK, TV movie, and it gave me the willies. The movie was based on a creepy small town, reminded me of The Twight Zone.   :smt096


https://www.sos.nh.gov/corporate/soskb/csearch.asp

I am looking for the Del and Joy Cass' Laundromat, if it still exists.        ::bananadance::

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1259&bih=592&q=new+hampshire+business+license+search&oq=new+hampshire+business+lic&aq=1&aqi=g3g-v4g-m1&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=2547l20625l0l22843l46l46l10l13l14l0l266l4266l0.13.10l23l0


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 06, 2011, 07:00:12 PM
Do the monkeys think that WN was into S/M ?  I do not know how to politely ask, and not be obnoxious.  ::MonkeyCool::
ewwww. 
Should I ask why you're wondering?  ha.
Did any of his very close FB friends indicate an interest in S/M?    :puker:

TCUmom,

I will get wrinkles if I think of this fruitcake.  I am going to discipline myself to stick with Dad, King of the Laudramat.  ::rhino::

I needed that laugh today ~ thank you!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

You know, this town/area is beginning to remind me of a milquetoast version of a Stephen King novel.  I can't put my finger on why, though.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Good Evening Monkey's,


I saw only one SK, TV movie, and it gave me the willies. The movie was based on a creepy small town, reminded me of The Twight Zone.   :smt096


https://www.sos.nh.gov/corporate/soskb/csearch.asp

I am looking for the Del and Joy Cass' Laundromat, if it still exists.        ::bananadance::

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1259&bih=592&q=new+hampshire+business+license+search&oq=new+hampshire+business+lic&aq=1&aqi=g3g-v4g-m1&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=2547l20625l0l22843l46l46l10l13l14l0l266l4266l0.13.10l23l0

Seahorse,

Have you seen this?

http://www.manta.com/c/mm7br9x/joy-s-x-treme-ice-cream

    Company Contacts
    Is this your company? Claim This Profile
        Joy Cass, Owner
        Joy Cass
        Owner
    Search for more contacts

Joy's X-Treme Ice Cream Business Information
Joy's X-Treme Ice Cream also does business as Joy's Laundry Center, Joy's Extreme Ice Creme .
Location Type    Single Location
Annual Sales (Estimated)    Less than $500,000
Employees (Estimated)    1 to 4
4 **
SIC Code    581203, Ice Cream Parlors
NAICS Code    722213, Snack & Nonalcoholic Beverage Bars
Products, Services and Brands    Information not found
State of Incorporation    Information not found
Years in Business    11

And this is a review of the business from 06/23/11.

The only thing "extreme" about this place is the extremely bad music (country, of course) that they insist on blaring at all times in their adjacent laundromat. We need LESS incest and wifebeating in this town, not MORE.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/joys-extreme-ice-cream-lancaster


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 06, 2011, 07:22:24 PM
Thanks Marycat.
Not a good review, very telling...
 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 07:29:59 PM
Do the monkeys think that WN was into S/M ?  I do not know how to politely ask, and not be obnoxious.  ::MonkeyCool::
ewwww. 
Should I ask why you're wondering?  ha.
Did any of his very close FB friends indicate an interest in S/M?    :puker:

TCUmom,

I will get wrinkles if I think of this fruitcake.  I am going to discipline myself to stick with Dad, King of the Laudramat.  ::rhino::

I needed that laugh today ~ thank you!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

You know, this town/area is beginning to remind me of a milquetoast version of a Stephen King novel.  I can't put my finger on why, though.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Good Evening Monkey's,


I saw only one SK, TV movie, and it gave me the willies. The movie was based on a creepy small town, reminded me of The Twight Zone.   :smt096


https://www.sos.nh.gov/corporate/soskb/csearch.asp

I am looking for the Del and Joy Cass' Laundromat, if it still exists.        ::bananadance::

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1259&bih=592&q=new+hampshire+business+license+search&oq=new+hampshire+business+lic&aq=1&aqi=g3g-v4g-m1&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=2547l20625l0l22843l46l46l10l13l14l0l266l4266l0.13.10l23l0

Seahorse,

Have you seen this?

http://www.manta.com/c/mm7br9x/joy-s-x-treme-ice-cream

    Company Contacts
    Is this your company? Claim This Profile
        Joy Cass, Owner
        Joy Cass
        Owner
    Search for more contacts

Joy's X-Treme Ice Cream Business Information
Joy's X-Treme Ice Cream also does business as Joy's Laundry Center, Joy's Extreme Ice Creme .
Location Type    Single Location
Annual Sales (Estimated)    Less than $500,000
Employees (Estimated)    1 to 4
4 **
SIC Code    581203, Ice Cream Parlors
NAICS Code    722213, Snack & Nonalcoholic Beverage Bars
Products, Services and Brands    Information not found
State of Incorporation    Information not found
Years in Business    11

And this is a review of the business from 06/23/11.

The only thing "extreme" about this place is the extremely bad music (country, of course) that they insist on blaring at all times in their adjacent laundromat. We need LESS incest and wifebeating in this town, not MORE.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/joys-extreme-ice-cream-lancaster

Marycat,

Thank-you for bring this to our attention.  Do you feel it should be over at Who's Who?  or "Documents"?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=136.0

So this is dad's hangout?  Dad's Obit said he socialized at the Laundromat, his son and daughter owned.   Why would an Obit

write something so dumb, IMO?  He must have done something other hang-out at restuarant's and the Laundromat  :2rofl:


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: theboyzmom on August 06, 2011, 07:36:16 PM
I don't mean to be unkind but I do not believe Celina's dental problems stem from anyone pulling on her tooth with a string but rather appears to me to be some sort of bone deformity/almost cleft pallet situation.

I believe something this severe would have been covered by Medicaid or some charity.  Maybe I am wrong but that is what I think.  Her parents could have done something about correcting this as this severe of a problem is just seldom seen these days in this country,

I think it is clear evidence of neglect on the part of her parents specifically her mother.

It makes me feel so bad for her. ::MonkeyWaa::

To think she had such a short life and had to be lived with this when it is unnecessary  just makes it all the worse. . . .

 ::crymonkey2::

Parents who would not try to fix this must not care much about her and I don't buy she had an appointment just the next week either.



Both my son and I thought that it looked like the same thing that my middle son had going on - his upper tooth got caught behind his front teeth and as it grew the two front teeth went all skewed. We caught it in time to have braces put on to correct it but the dentist told us that both front teeth would blacken and get worse and eventually fall out. I really think this is what it was. My ex was sure that it would be fine and nothing had to be done. Had to go to court to get the ex to allow the work to be done. Perhaps Mom did not have the backbone or money to do it?  My impression is that she is very very very weak and able to be beaten into submission.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: AZSunny on August 06, 2011, 07:36:32 PM
Celina is going to be cremated.

http://m.christianpost.com/news/celina-cass-body-found-wrapped-in-blanket-53462/

Cass’ grandmother said Celina will be placed in a pink casket and her body will be cremated. Marcia Laro declined to say where the private service will be held.

I know that her body was found in a blanket but I've been looking for confirmation that Celina's body was found wrapped in a blanket from her home but have found nothing. 

Has that been confirmed?

Pattianne,

Nothing has been confirmed except "suspicious" death.
Celina will not even bury, just kind of flushed away, being cremated.  She should have a spot, where others can grieve and leave notes, flowers..IMO,



BBM

Cremation is a personal preference. My husband was cremated and scattered and it was his choice and he was not flushed and forgotten. Cremains can also be buried in a cemetery or put in a mausoleum or kept at home.

Correct.  My husband was created as well, and he is still at home with me.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 07:47:07 PM
just some bigger imgs links from google img,and some observations

what is the silver shiny thing on the ledge,the officer is pointing
to,sorta looks like a fishing rod
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg

another img of the shiny thing/click pic make big
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

looking under the silver truck
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_celina_cass_truck_sc_110803_wg.jpg

the man holding L cass is looking right at the cam
big pic
http://media.klewtv.com/images/110728_missing_girl_2.jpg

this guy is looking at the cam too click for big
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg

do you know any of these people
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/a380141ac13b2d10f40e6a706700fe2c_0.jpg


house imgs
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/d7c03d103bcfb811f40e6a706700af6b_2.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/u28hd08/home.jpg










CW618,

Do you think the child was dropped in the water, by a fishing pole?  Fishing line, is very strong for deep sea fishing, or even
fresh water fishing.  I can not make out the fishing reel if it is a fly fishing rod,  can you? TIA

 :nemo:
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Red on August 06, 2011, 07:59:46 PM
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE & CELINA: Grandfather of 11 Year Old Celina Cass Wants Justice and Says, “I don’t want no Casey Anthony”

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/06/justice-for-caylee-celina-grandfather-of-11-year-old-celina-cass-wants-justice-and-says-i-don%e2%80%99t-want-no-casey-anthony/

Quote
The stigma of the miscarriage of justice in the Casey Anthony murder trial has made it all the way the the northern reaches of the Granite state of New Hampshire. The grandfather of the once missing and now found deceased 11 year old  Celina Cass stated that he hopes that the police and investigators are able to answer the questions in the “suspicious” death of Celina. He also stated that he wants justice and that who ever is responsible for the murder of Celina Cass gets the max. The grandfather then stated, . “I don’t want no Casey Anthony.”

 ::snipping2::

Amazing how a miscarriage of justice is known as a "Casey Anthony" and has now made it into the American lexicon.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 06, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
How many kids live like Celina ? Too many is my guess. I see it every day. Saw it today, parents so consumed with themselves that their kids are a bother  / nuisance. And this is in public. Today it was a preggo girl with a man ? two little dirty crying kids and a black eye on the preggo girl. And you can't just walk up to peeps in a store and tell them to smarten up and take their kids from them. This abuse is everywhere.

Her mother must be a doormat to make the girls sleep in an unfinished basement on the cement. What kind of person does that ? And I have never heard her speak. The " family" hid behind blankets. When I saw that, my hinky meter told me that he crime scene was the house and that they knew.   


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 08:06:48 PM
How many kids live like Celina ? Too many is my guess. I see it every day. Saw it today, parents so consumed with themselves that their kids are a bother  / nuisance. And this is in public. Today it was a preggo girl with a man ? two little dirty crying kids and a black eye on the preggo girl. And you can't just walk up to peeps in a store and tell them to smarten up and take their kids from them. This abuse is everywhere.

Her mother must be a doormat to make the girls sleep in an unfinished basement on the cement. What kind of person does that ? And I have never heard her speak. The " family" hid behind blankets. When I saw that, my hinky meter told me that he crime scene was the house and that they knew.   

Timothy L. Cass, is a mystery, since, he has her on a search engine.  Perhaps 2, 3, 4 or 5. This is huge mystery to me. 
Adam has a son, who is the mother to the son?  ::MonkeyRoll::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 08:20:20 PM
I don't mean to be unkind but I do not believe Celina's dental problems stem from anyone pulling on her tooth with a string but rather appears to me to be some sort of bone deformity/almost cleft pallet situation.

I believe something this severe would have been covered by Medicaid or some charity.  Maybe I am wrong but that is what I think.  Her parents could have done something about correcting this as this severe of a problem is just seldom seen these days in this country,

I think it is clear evidence of neglect on the part of her parents specifically her mother.

It makes me feel so bad for her. ::MonkeyWaa::

To think she had such a short life and had to be lived with this when it is unnecessary  just makes it all the worse. . . .

 ::crymonkey2::

Parents who would not try to fix this must not care much about her and I don't buy she had an appointment just the next week either.

Anna ~ I so agree with you on *all* of the above.  The minute I heard that about having an appointment next week, I thought, yeah~right. 
They probably read/heard so much mentioned about her tooth, they felt the need to address it.  Too bad it couldn't have been addressed earlier.
I was just thinking.....at my middle school, if a student has a *situation* like that, the school nurse and district are able to contact various persons who could/would help.

I agree also and I don't buy for one second that she had a dental appointment the very next week.  You can tell she was embarrassed by it because it seems like she only smiled on candid pictures.  If you look at that picture of Kevin locking Celina and Kayla with his arms, he looks like he has the same thing but to a lesser degree.  In any case, her mother had the obligation to at least go to the ends of the earth to fix this problem for her daughter.  I agree that she maybe couldn't afford it but I'm sure there was some kind of help out there. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 06, 2011, 08:30:07 PM
just some bigger imgs links from google img,and some observations

what is the silver shiny thing on the ledge,the officer is pointing
to,sorta looks like a fishing rod
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg

another img of the shiny thing/click pic make big
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

looking under the silver truck
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_celina_cass_truck_sc_110803_wg.jpg

the man holding L cass is looking right at the cam
big pic
http://media.klewtv.com/images/110728_missing_girl_2.jpg

this guy is looking at the cam too click for big
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg

do you know any of these people
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/a380141ac13b2d10f40e6a706700fe2c_0.jpg


house imgs
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/d7c03d103bcfb811f40e6a706700af6b_2.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/u28hd08/home.jpg










CW618,

Do you think the child was dropped in the water, by a fishing pole?  Fishing line, is very strong for deep sea fishing, or even
fresh water fishing.  I can not make out the fishing reel if it is a fly fishing rod,  can you? TIA

 :nemo:
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg


I looked at that and I thought it looked like part of a swivel and a wench..but what do I know.  For a rod the handle is very short.

Anyhow..I have been thinking mor and more about Celina's mom.

Adam described her as very shy..he was not surprised she asn't spoken.  Everyone who has described Celina described her that way too..also that she was a Moomy's girl.  I think they probably had a loving relationship.  I think her Mom was just crushed by this and unable to talk to the press, she had to be taken to the hospital on the day this happened..and that her family and her friend who owns the shop sheltered her.  Actually that is not unusual to me.  Now Cindy Anthony and her big mouth..that was unusual.

The one thing that bugs me is sort of two fold.  The girls slept downstairs togather but when Kayla was gone..which she was Monday night..then Celina slept on the couch.  The article in the Colebrook Chronicle stated that a pillow and comforter where on the couch.  But obviously she wasn't that morning because Wendal stated he started checking for her between 8-8:30 Tuesday morning.  Well I can understand that..he expected to see her on the couch and she wasn't.  But was Celina usually up early and maybe out of the house..like across the street at Towle's mini mart some mornings..or was she usually there?

Also that side door that has been photographed with LE standing by it..does it go into their portion of the house..and if so which.. it is at ground level..so to reach the basement there would have to be stairs and to reach the 1st floor you would need a few stairs there..see what I mean..is this a kind of mudroom type entrance where you could go up a few steps to the kitchen and down a few to the basement..and is there access to the basement from this door without entering the rest of the house?

And third..how many people knew that the girls slept alone in the basement?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
West Stewartstown, New Hampshire - August 6, 2011

The North Country Community Band lead the 35th Annual Stewartstown Day Celebration Parade. But this year's annual summer fair was more than just fun and games. It was a chance to honor 11 year old Celina Cass. She was found dead in the Connecticut River earlier this week.

"We miss her, and love her, this day is about her too," said family friend Lisa Harding.

The fair was dedicated to Celina. The band marched to an upbeat tune for most of the parade - but honored the little girl as they passed by her home.

There was also a float in memory of Celina. Her mother fought back tears as she rode on it. Her sister Kayla and some of Celina's friends decked themselves out in fancy outfits.

Continued..

http://www.wcax.com/story/15222406/celina

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/LouisaCassridesfloat.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2011, 08:54:59 PM
Festival brings Celina Cass’ hometown together..

snipped..

Celina’s parents, Louisa Noyes and Adam Laro, were spotted at the festival surrounded by a phalanx of family and friends who sought privacy from the local media.

Townspeople also circled the wagons, asking reporters not to interview children during the festival.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356759&format=&page=2&listingType=Loc#articleFull


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2011, 09:05:36 PM
STEWARTSTOWN DEDICATES ANNUAL FESTIVAL
TO CELINA CASS..Video

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2011, 09:08:15 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/DEDICATESANNUALFESTIVAL.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2011, 09:14:03 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/AdamLaro.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2011, 09:30:07 PM
Louisa Cass and Her mom..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/LouisaCassandhermother.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: New Monkey on August 06, 2011, 09:37:34 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2011, 09:44:03 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?

This is all to strange.. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 06, 2011, 09:45:47 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?

This is all to strange.. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not making excuses for her or anything...but if she is so easily persuaded as many have suggested she may be on that float because those of the community have said it would be a good thing for her and the family and the community to honor Celina in this way.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Anna on August 06, 2011, 09:47:41 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?

I don't understand either.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 09:49:13 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?

bizarre.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 09:56:05 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?

This is all to strange.. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not making excuses for her or anything...but if she is so easily persuaded as many have suggested she may be on that float because those of the community have said it would be a good thing for her and the family and the community to honor Celina in this way.


I don't care who asked me to do what, I would be too distraught to do anything like this.  No, Celina has not been laid to rest yet and her sister is throwing out candy from her black and white hat?  So okay, maybe it's me who lives on another planet but in my opinion, this town is definitely from a Stephen King book.  Let me just say this - could anyone see Beth Holloway or Sharon Peterson riding on a float in a parade?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 06, 2011, 10:05:38 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?

This is all to strange.. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not making excuses for her or anything...but if she is so easily persuaded as many have suggested she may be on that float because those of the community have said it would be a good thing for her and the family and the community to honor Celina in this way.


I don't care who asked me to do what, I would be too distraught to do anything like this.  No, Celina has not been laid to rest yet and her sister is throwing out candy from her black and white hat?  So okay, maybe it's me who lives on another planet but in my opinion, this town is definitely from a Stephen King book.  Let me just say this - could anyone see Beth Holloway or Sharon Peterson riding on a float in a parade?

I agree...I was just trying to view from "their world."  There is no way that ANYONE could pull me out of my dark bed if I lost a child...but also...I WOULD not have a paranoid schizophrenic or bipolar man with a disgusting sex drive living with my two daughters...and people would NOT be in and out of my home...I am strong enough to stand up for my children.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 06, 2011, 10:06:35 PM
Louisa Cass and Her mom..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/LouisaCassandhermother.jpg)

MOM!~  Mom who? 

She may be shy, but not shy about asking for donation's.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
My heart is crushed for Adam Laro.  He looks literally beside himself sitting at the circus and watching.  I am so glad to see his son and parents with him.  To me, it is so obvious they care about each other.  I don't doubt that he is riddled with guilt, feeling he could have done something, yet, how could he do anything.

I am probably naive and dense, but it's only my opinion.

I feel so sad for him.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 06, 2011, 10:32:55 PM
just some bigger imgs links from google img,and some observations

what is the silver shiny thing on the ledge,the officer is pointing
to,sorta looks like a fishing rod
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg

another img of the shiny thing/click pic make big
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

looking under the silver truck
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_celina_cass_truck_sc_110803_wg.jpg

the man holding L cass is looking right at the cam
big pic
http://media.klewtv.com/images/110728_missing_girl_2.jpg

this guy is looking at the cam too click for big
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg

do you know any of these people
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/a380141ac13b2d10f40e6a706700fe2c_0.jpg


house imgs
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/d7c03d103bcfb811f40e6a706700af6b_2.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/u28hd08/home.jpg










CW618,

Do you think the child was dropped in the water, by a fishing pole?  Fishing line, is very strong for deep sea fishing, or even
fresh water fishing.  I can not make out the fishing reel if it is a fly fishing rod,  can you? TIA

 :nemo:
http://images-cdn.lancasteronline.com/189897_640.jpg

I know nothing about the underneath of trucks or cars, but I wondered if that shiny piece could be something that fell off a truck?

Perhaps they (I think we are talking 2 people - one to drive and one to ride in the back with Celina's body) backed the truck out over the water to push her body off into the water. I think she must have been weighted down with something, so they wanted to avoid carrying her. Maybe they hit the side of the bridge with the truck or maybe the bed of the truck was heavy and was dragging thereby dislodging a piece of the undercarriage. Something was making the police interested in the underneath area of the trucks. Something they couldn't see until they took the truck in and got it on a lift.

Since they saw something that made them suspicious of homicide before they brought the body up, I think there is a good chance that what they saw was a weight of some sort. They also focused in on trucks immediately, not cars. Perhaps because they knew that the body was too far out to have been pushed off the bank and must have been pushed out of something that could be suspended over the water - a truck bed.

The other thing that has been bothering me is the photo posted here of her body being taken out of the water. There is a definite square shape in the middle area of the stretcher. You can see the edges. Large square patio blocks?

Just what I think of looking at the photos - no proof.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 10:41:24 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?

This is all to strange.. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not making excuses for her or anything...but if she is so easily persuaded as many have suggested she may be on that float because those of the community have said it would be a good thing for her and the family and the community to honor Celina in this way.


I don't care who asked me to do what, I would be too distraught to do anything like this.  No, Celina has not been laid to rest yet and her sister is throwing out candy from her black and white hat?  So okay, maybe it's me who lives on another planet but in my opinion, this town is definitely from a Stephen King book.  Let me just say this - could anyone see Beth Holloway or Sharon Peterson riding on a float in a parade?

I agree...I was just trying to view from "their world."  There is no way that ANYONE could pull me out of my dark bed if I lost a child...but also...I WOULD not have a paranoid schizophrenic or bipolar man with a disgusting sex drive living with my two daughters...and people would NOT be in and out of my home...I am strong enough to stand up for my children.

labubske, I didn't mean anything about you, I just don't get these people at all.  The more I read and the more I see, I'm starting to think that there is something seriously wrong with them.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 06, 2011, 10:45:08 PM
Why in the world is the mother riding on a freaking float?  In what alternative universe does this kind of stuff happen?  Has the child even been lay to rest yet?

This is all to strange.. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not making excuses for her or anything...but if she is so easily persuaded as many have suggested she may be on that float because those of the community have said it would be a good thing for her and the family and the community to honor Celina in this way.


I don't care who asked me to do what, I would be too distraught to do anything like this.  No, Celina has not been laid to rest yet and her sister is throwing out candy from her black and white hat?  So okay, maybe it's me who lives on another planet but in my opinion, this town is definitely from a Stephen King book.  Let me just say this - could anyone see Beth Holloway or Sharon Peterson riding on a float in a parade?

I agree...I was just trying to view from "their world."  There is no way that ANYONE could pull me out of my dark bed if I lost a child...but also...I WOULD not have a paranoid schizophrenic or bipolar man with a disgusting sex drive living with my two daughters...and people would NOT be in and out of my home...I am strong enough to stand up for my children.

labubske, I didn't mean anything about you, I just don't get these people at all.  The more I read and the more I see, I'm starting to think that there is something seriously wrong with them.

Oh Pattianne...I didn't take it in a bad way...I see what everyone is talking about in regards to it being odd that she is on a float and her daughter hasn't been laid to rest.  I couldn't see myself being able to do that. I was trying to get into her mind and HOW she could be on that float...it is so hard for me to see the worst in people...especially mom's...but I guess we see it around us quite often.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 06, 2011, 10:47:30 PM
Not a fishing pole but looks a bit like cable and a winch:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/6016096121_efe032a32b_b.jpg)


(http://static.traderscity.com/board/userpix37/26236-hand-winch-pulling-grip-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 06, 2011, 10:54:14 PM
Not a fishing pole but looks a bit like cable and a winch:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/6016096121_efe032a32b_b.jpg)


(http://static.traderscity.com/board/userpix37/26236-hand-winch-pulling-grip-1.jpg)

Uh oh, I see it now that the picture has been enlarged.  No wonder Wendell checked himself into a psychiatric hospital.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 06, 2011, 11:26:19 PM
Not a fishing pole but looks a bit like cable and a winch:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/6016096121_efe032a32b_b.jpg)


(http://static.traderscity.com/board/userpix37/26236-hand-winch-pulling-grip-1.jpg)

Holy crap...How could someone forget that, was there for what a week?
You think it might be a set up?
 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 06, 2011, 11:34:45 PM
Naturally I'm confused.  I thought the wench and pulley were used when they were pulling Celina from the water.  In one of the photos there were a lot of men pulling and backing up . . . I hope I made sense.   

When I saw the picture of them retrieving Celina, I thought she must have been weighted with something VERY heavy.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 06, 2011, 11:47:29 PM
Naturally I'm confused.  I thought the wench and pulley were used when they were pulling Celina from the water.  In one of the photos there were a lot of men pulling and backing up . . . I hope I made sense.   

When I saw the picture of them retrieving Celina, I thought she must have been weighted with something VERY heavy.

I did too. I thought that Lilly thingy was being used by the divers to retrive her, to lift her. If you look at the picture with all the cops on the retaining wall, you can see the cable is pulled taught. I was thinking maybe it's bc Celina was thrown right there, so the diver just used the ledge to go down with the cable.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/03/article-0-0D458DE800000578-403_634x615.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 06, 2011, 11:52:48 PM
A view from the other side of the dam:

(http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20110805/3b1dbd_080511girldeadcs03.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:04:41 AM
More pics of the scene at the dam:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/02/article-2021250-0D42E0A600000578-721_634x415.jpg)

(http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2011/08/02/20/29/797-ulZsp.SlMa.55.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 12:06:55 AM
Titch, or anyone ~ Do we have a shot of when she was actually be removed from the water?  The one that shows the men single-file pulling her body onto land? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 07, 2011, 12:08:11 AM
klaas TY for the enlargement, i dont think it belongs to the divers or LE
more img
pulling celina up img
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1457613#msg1457613

vid of celina being pulled up
http://www.wmur.com/r/28729725/detail.html

wide img of area
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

wonder if they are looking at the shiny thing
http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2011/08/02/1312260996_7165/539w.jpg


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 07, 2011, 12:13:04 AM
the shiny thing is there when they are pulling celina up
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1457613#msg1457613


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:21:21 AM
Titch, or anyone ~ Do we have a shot of when she was actually be removed from the water?  The one that shows the men single-file pulling her body onto land? 

We did when her body was first recovered. Only problem is idk if it was saved & used as a photobucket link or hotlinked. That picture of them retrieving her actualle made it look like they put her in something that had crisp edges, like a rectangular box of sorts. Maybe they did do that to collect sampled of the river floor, marine life, etc, besides her body. I'll search google images if a monkey doesn't have it handy.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 12:23:06 AM
the shiny thing is there when they are pulling celina up
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1457613#msg1457613

Thank you ~ I think I've lost my mind look at all this stuff.  :scratch:


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:25:10 AM
klaas TY for the enlargement, i dont think it belongs to the divers or LE
more img
pulling celina up img
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1457613#msg1457613

vid of celina being pulled up
http://www.wmur.com/r/28729725/detail.html

wide img of area
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

wonder if they are looking at the shiny thing
http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2011/08/02/1312260996_7165/539w.jpg


Thanks for the links. I'm just gonna hotlink to that pic so it's with these ones:

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Bodybeingremoved1.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 12:26:11 AM
Titch, or anyone ~ Do we have a shot of when she was actually be removed from the water?  The one that shows the men single-file pulling her body onto land? 

We did when her body was first recovered. Only problem is idk if it was saved & used as a photobucket link or hotlinked. That picture of them retrieving her actualle made it look like they put her in something that had crisp edges, like a rectangular box of sorts. Maybe they did do that to collect sampled of the river floor, marine life, etc, besides her body. I'll search google images if a monkey doesn't have it handy.
I'm thinking they must have had to put her body on something to stabilize it, something like a gurney/stretcher EMS uses.  Do you remember the photo I'm taking about with all the rescuers lined up . . . reminded me of the old tug-of-war games.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:27:05 AM
the shiny thing is there when they are pulling celina up
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1457613#msg1457613

Could the divers have been using it? Like maybe since they were right on the dam, kinda like how a mountain climber uses them for safety?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 07, 2011, 12:28:04 AM
Titch, or anyone ~ Do we have a shot of when she was actually be removed from the water?  The one that shows the men single-file pulling her body onto land? 

We did when her body was first recovered. Only problem is idk if it was saved & used as a photobucket link or hotlinked. That picture of them retrieving her actualle made it look like they put her in something that had crisp edges, like a rectangular box of sorts. Maybe they did do that to collect sampled of the river floor, marine life, etc, besides her body. I'll search google images if a monkey doesn't have it handy.

i think it was snipped from this vid
vid of celina being pulled up at about 47sec
http://www.wmur.com/r/28729725/detail.html



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 12:28:26 AM
OT ~ I just realized the 22 Navy Seals who were part of the helicopter crew shot down in Afghanistan yesterday were members of Team 6 . . . the heroes who did away with Bin Laden.

My heart is really sad tonight.  Just so much *stuff* happening lately.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:29:51 AM
Titch, or anyone ~ Do we have a shot of when she was actually be removed from the water?  The one that shows the men single-file pulling her body onto land? 

We did when her body was first recovered. Only problem is idk if it was saved & used as a photobucket link or hotlinked. That picture of them retrieving her actualle made it look like they put her in something that had crisp edges, like a rectangular box of sorts. Maybe they did do that to collect sampled of the river floor, marine life, etc, besides her body. I'll search google images if a monkey doesn't have it handy.

i think it was snipped from this vid
vid of celina being pulled up at about 47sec
http://www.wmur.com/r/28729725/detail.html


Thank you so much cw!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:40:50 AM
OT ~ I just realized the 22 Navy Seals who were part of the helicopter crew shot down in Afghanistan yesterday were members of Team 6 . . . the heroes who did away with Bin Laden.

My heart is really sad tonight.  Just so much *stuff* happening lately.

Omg I know what you mean.

Also, when I just saw the pics of the festival, I literally got teary eyed. I feel absolutely terrible for this family. I don't think I'd feel comfortable riding on a float the same week my child's deceased body was found but remember this is a very small town, so it may be hard for some of us to relate. I read an article where the township committee spokesperson or whatever asked the police if they should postpone the festivities. They were told to go on with it especially bc they wanted to dedicate it to Celina Cass. They thought with involving her family, especially her parents, it would give them some peace in seeing how much this entire community has pulled together during this grieving period. The reason the float was decorated & the people were dressed up is bc Celina like playing dress up or getting fancy once in awhile. Most of the people on the float were her peers & family members. I'm not sure that I would have been able to handle the situation the same way, but I'm not gonna hold it negatively that they did this. All I can say is I'm just sooo glad they did something that's real...instead of magically thinking...hahaha!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 12:41:28 AM
Naturally I'm confused.  I thought the wench and pulley were used when they were pulling Celina from the water.  In one of the photos there were a lot of men pulling and backing up . . . I hope I made sense.   

When I saw the picture of them retrieving Celina, I thought she must have been weighted with something VERY heavy.

Yes, I thought so too and still think so.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:42:40 AM
So, Wendell is still in a psych hospital ... But what about Mullaney? Where's he?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:43:19 AM
Naturally I'm confused.  I thought the wench and pulley were used when they were pulling Celina from the water.  In one of the photos there were a lot of men pulling and backing up . . . I hope I made sense.   

When I saw the picture of them retrieving Celina, I thought she must have been weighted with something VERY heavy.

Yes, I thought so too and still think so.

Me too.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 12:47:12 AM
Titch, or anyone ~ Do we have a shot of when she was actually be removed from the water?  The one that shows the men single-file pulling her body onto land? 

We did when her body was first recovered. Only problem is idk if it was saved & used as a photobucket link or hotlinked. That picture of them retrieving her actualle made it look like they put her in something that had crisp edges, like a rectangular box of sorts. Maybe they did do that to collect sampled of the river floor, marine life, etc, besides her body. I'll search google images if a monkey doesn't have it handy.

i think it was snipped from this vid
vid of celina being pulled up at about 47sec
http://www.wmur.com/r/28729725/detail.html


Thank you so much cw!

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6017/6016352503_9a0c87d2fb_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 07, 2011, 12:48:08 AM
a pg or 2 back someone mentioned, the shiny thing might be part of the truck, it might be
a spare car part,a clutch control cable it sure looks a little like this, they make a lot of
different types
http://best-b2b.com/userimg/658/681-1/clutch-cable-13.jpg


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 07, 2011, 12:52:01 AM
thanks for the imgs,got to go the back says so


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 12:53:10 AM
Just a refresher on Kevin Mullaney:

http://www.abc12.com/story/15198932/autopsy-cant-find-cause-of-nh-girls-death (http://www.abc12.com/story/15198932/autopsy-cant-find-cause-of-nh-girls-death)

 ::snipping2::

The pickup was the second vehicle hauled away from the home in Stewartstown, a community of 800 residents. Police last week impounded a red pickup truck that neighbors say was driven by Kevin Mullaney, who had moved in with the family.

Mullaney and Celina's stepfather, Wendell Noyes, have previously run afoul of the law. Mullaney was charged in a string of car thefts in 2007, and Noyes was arrested in 2003 for breaking into an ex-girlfriend's home and threatening to throw her down a flight of stairs, according to court documents.

Wendell Noyes was involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital after the 2003 incident, and an order signed by a probate judge indicated he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.

Mullaney pleaded guilty to stealing five cars and trucks in 2007 and was sentenced to 1 1/2 to 3 years in prison and a consecutive term of four months in jail.

Brady declined to say whether Wendell Noyes was staying with Louisa's family. Noyes initially spoke to reporters about Celina's disappearance but later stopped speaking out. A man who answered the phone at the home of Wendell Noyes' sister on Tuesday said no one at the house would talk to a reporter.

A message left with one of Mullaney's family members wasn't returned.

Friends close to Louisa Noyes say Mullaney, 23, is the son of a former boyfriend and moved into the Noyes' home about a year ago, joining Wendell and Louisa Noyes and her children, Celina and her older sister, Kayla.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:57:35 AM
Just a refresher on Kevin Mullaney:

http://www.abc12.com/story/15198932/autopsy-cant-find-cause-of-nh-girls-death (http://www.abc12.com/story/15198932/autopsy-cant-find-cause-of-nh-girls-death)

 ::snipping2::

The pickup was the second vehicle hauled away from the home in Stewartstown, a community of 800 residents. Police last week impounded a red pickup truck that neighbors say was driven by Kevin Mullaney, who had moved in with the family.

Mullaney and Celina's stepfather, Wendell Noyes, have previously run afoul of the law. Mullaney was charged in a string of car thefts in 2007, and Noyes was arrested in 2003 for breaking into an ex-girlfriend's home and threatening to throw her down a flight of stairs, according to court documents.

Wendell Noyes was involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital after the 2003 incident, and an order signed by a probate judge indicated he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.

Mullaney pleaded guilty to stealing five cars and trucks in 2007 and was sentenced to 1 1/2 to 3 years in prison and a consecutive term of four months in jail.

Brady declined to say whether Wendell Noyes was staying with Louisa's family. Noyes initially spoke to reporters about Celina's disappearance but later stopped speaking out. A man who answered the phone at the home of Wendell Noyes' sister on Tuesday said no one at the house would talk to a reporter.

A message left with one of Mullaney's family members wasn't returned.

Friends close to Louisa Noyes say Mullaney, 23, is the son of a former boyfriend and moved into the Noyes' home about a year ago, joining Wendell and Louisa Noyes and her children, Celina and her older sister, Kayla.

 ::snipping2::

Thanks so much. I wonder where Kevin
 is now.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:58:54 AM
Going to sleep. G'night monkeys!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 01:22:20 AM
Titch, or anyone ~ Do we have a shot of when she was actually be removed from the water?  The one that shows the men single-file pulling her body onto land? 

We did when her body was first recovered. Only problem is idk if it was saved & used as a photobucket link or hotlinked. That picture of them retrieving her actualle made it look like they put her in something that had crisp edges, like a rectangular box of sorts. Maybe they did do that to collect sampled of the river floor, marine life, etc, besides her body. I'll search google images if a monkey doesn't have it handy.
I'm thinking they must have had to put her body on something to stabilize it, something like a gurney/stretcher EMS uses.  Do you remember the photo I'm taking about with all the rescuers lined up . . . reminded me of the old tug-of-war games.

I can't imagine that many full grown men really having to tug that hard to bring the body up unless it was really weighted down heavily.  Also, from the statement 'the condition of the body leads us to believe... I doubt that they just saw Celina's body.  They could have meant the blanket but it looked so heavy that I keep thinking weights.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 07, 2011, 01:40:21 AM
a pg or 2 back someone mentioned, the shiny thing might be part of the truck, it might be
a spare car part,a clutch control cable it sure looks a little like this, they make a lot of
different types
http://best-b2b.com/userimg/658/681-1/clutch-cable-13.jpg

That was me and I am still thinking it is a viable option - especially after your pic of the clutch control cable.

I agree with klaas that it very much resembles a winch pulley and cable, but I am having trouble with a couple of things.I think of a winch more for pulling than lowering, but the ones I have seen do have a reverse, so it would be possible to lower something with it.  Don't you usually need something to power the winch? I know there are hand crank ones, but that would take some muscle. It would have to be mounted on the truck for stabilization wouldn't it? On the bumper or where? If it was on a visible part of the truck, then they would have noticed it was gone the next day. Also, why would they need a winch? Do they off road, need it to put a boat in the water??? I guess Kevin could off road, but Wendell doesn't seem the type. I can't see them owning a boat either or having frequent occasions to pull a car. The police are looking under the car for some reason and I doubt it is for vegetation as there are roads to the dam, so no need to drive into grass or field.

Maybe the shiny thing has nothing to do with the case, but they were pretty interested in it. Were there any photos of the site after the police left? Did they gather that item up or leave it there?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 07, 2011, 02:16:43 AM
It seems to me if it was a winch used to lower her body, it is too low (like half way) down the rocks.  Wouldn't it make more sense to have the winch attached to something at the top of the rocks?  How would you attach a body to the winch in that position on an incline?  If you could do that why not just let the body slide down the incline?  It just seems like a lot of trouble and time consuming to dispose of a body, but thats just my opinion.  Maybe I just don't fully understand a winch either! I guess a benefit of lowering it down, if it were weighted, would be so it made no sound when it hit the water..but if you are going to be that careful not to make a sound why take the extra time to rig up the winch and take the risk of being seen?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 07, 2011, 04:07:59 AM
It seems to me if it was a winch used to lower her body, it is too low (like half way) down the rocks.  Wouldn't it make more sense to have the winch attached to something at the top of the rocks?  How would you attach a body to the winch in that position on an incline?  If you could do that why not just let the body slide down the incline?  It just seems like a lot of trouble and time consuming to dispose of a body, but thats just my opinion.  Maybe I just don't fully understand a winch either! I guess a benefit of lowering it down, if it were weighted, would be so it made no sound when it hit the water..but if you are going to be that careful not to make a sound why take the extra time to rig up the winch and take the risk of being seen?

The only thing that makes sense to me is them backing the truck in and rolling her off into the water. Especially if the rumor is true that they found wet clothing in one of the trucks (Kevins ?). She may have gotten stuck on the shelf or the water's edge and someone had to go in and try to move her out into deeper water. Maybe they weren't using that shiny item, but it was in the back of the truck and it just got pushed off when they were moving her body and they never noticed it was missing.

Do you suppose the media is respecting the wishes of LE and not pursuing these people for interviews. I would have thought they would have found out the whole Kevin angle by now including what relation if any he is, where he was that night, where he is now....  It all seems so strange. No one is talking.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 05:36:00 AM
Hat Tip to Pattianne... :smt028

I hope Pattianne you will not mind that I brought your post over... who is Mulvenney?

Is that a first name or last name?  Thank-you. 

 ::monkeyscissors::

She had the two girls together with Adam and Mulvenney is the son of a former boyfriend.

http://www.newhampshire.com/article/20110804/NEWS03/708049971/0/newhampshire03


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 05:50:17 AM
Hat Tip to Pattianne... :smt028

I hope Pattianne you will not mind that I brought your post over... who is Mulvenney?

Is that a first name or last name?  Thank-you. 

 ::monkeyscissors::

She had the two girls together with Adam and Mulvenney is the son of a former boyfriend.

http://www.newhampshire.com/article/20110804/NEWS03/708049971/0/newhampshire03

The name is spelled wrong - I got it. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 06:03:02 AM
 August 7, 2011


http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/07/nh_town_moves_slowly_beyond_grief/




Walter Laro, 67, Cass’s grandfather, said yesterday from his home in nearby Columbia, N.H., that her funeral will be tomorrow afternoon in Lancaster, about an hour south, with only family and close friends in attendance. Cass’s body was cremated and her remains placed in a pink urn.  Continued...

 ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/07/nh_town_moves_slowly_beyond_grief/?page=2

Page 2

A service of remembrance will be held at 6:30 p.m. tomorrow at a community school in Canaan, during which friends and relatives will share memories of Cass and watch a slideshow of her life.


 ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 07, 2011, 07:26:43 AM
Titch, or anyone ~ Do we have a shot of when she was actually be removed from the water?  The one that shows the men single-file pulling her body onto land? 

We did when her body was first recovered. Only problem is idk if it was saved & used as a photobucket link or hotlinked. That picture of them retrieving her actualle made it look like they put her in something that had crisp edges, like a rectangular box of sorts. Maybe they did do that to collect sampled of the river floor, marine life, etc, besides her body. I'll search google images if a monkey doesn't have it handy.

i think it was snipped from this vid
vid of celina being pulled up at about 47sec
http://www.wmur.com/r/28729725/detail.html


Thank you so much cw!

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6017/6016352503_9a0c87d2fb_b.jpg)

Ok, when they took the wrench off, it would of been where the bag was lifted, right?  Look at the wall of bricks, that's not where the wrench was found, right?
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 09:33:24 AM
Pharlap - I think the zoom and enlargement make the area look different.  I believe it was right here:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/03/article-0-0D458DE800000578-403_634x615.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 09:53:22 AM
Not a fishing pole but looks a bit like cable and a winch:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/6016096121_efe032a32b_b.jpg)


(http://static.traderscity.com/board/userpix37/26236-hand-winch-pulling-grip-1.jpg)

Thank you for blowing that up KLAAS.  That's what I thought it might be a page or two back but couldn't get my computer to enlarge it much.  And it looks like a swivel to it..I wonder if they think someone lowered her into the water using that?

Still catching up..but thank you.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 09:57:55 AM
Not a fishing pole but looks a bit like cable and a winch:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/6016096121_efe032a32b_b.jpg)


(http://static.traderscity.com/board/userpix37/26236-hand-winch-pulling-grip-1.jpg)

Thank you for blowing that up KLAAS.  That's what I thought it might be a page or two back but couldn't get my computer to enlarge it much.  And it looks like a swivel to it..I wonder if they think someone lowered her into the water using that?

Still catching up..but thank you.

Pardon how crass this sounds......but, I don't think the numbskull killer would have had the sense/foresight to even use a winch and pulley.
 
As awful as it is, I think he just literally tossed her in the water.  No muss. No fuss.  Get it done fast, and hightail it out of there.

 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 07, 2011, 10:13:49 AM
maybe the shiny thing fell off the floating stretcher when they pulled celina up,
in this vid @ 58sec,you can see the boat tied off,if it was there then im sure
they would have seen it,thinking the shiny thing was stuck to the stretcher,so it
may have nothing to do with celina,it could have been just something in the water
and pulled up with celina
vid
http://www.wmur.com/video/28728635/detail.html

floating stretcher
http://en.csmliferaft.com/imageRepository/ca34e096-9a61-42a3-b07f-94b1698a19de.jpg
http://en.csmliferaft.com/products_detail/&productId=54e4a5ef-d48c-4de6-881b-1c0856a61743&comp_stats=comp-FrontProducts_list01-1263280125884.html


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 10:14:28 AM
I believe the winch and pully was used by LE to bring Celina's body up out of the water. I don't believe it's anything the perp used to lower her into the water.  I agree, they (the perps) likely simply pushed her body over the edge.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:15:20 AM
Not a fishing pole but looks a bit like cable and a winch:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/6016096121_efe032a32b_b.jpg)

(http://static.traderscity.com/board/userpix37/26236-hand-winch-pulling-grip-1.jpg)

Thank you for blowing that up KLAAS.  That's what I thought it might be a page or two back but couldn't get my computer to enlarge it much.  And it looks like a swivel to it..I wonder if they think someone lowered her into the water using that?

Still catching up..but thank you.

Pardon how crass this sounds......but, I don't think the numbskull killer would have had the sense/foresight to even use a winch and pulley.
 
As awful as it is, I think he just literally tossed her in the water.  No muss. No fuss.  Get it done fast, and hightail it out of there.
 

I agree tcumom

Gypsy, when I looked at the bigger picture with all the le standing over & the complete pulley system showing, I could see where the cable is pulled taut, Which means somebody has to be on the other end of it where the hook would be. I believe it was used by the divers. I'm kinda thinking if it were used by the perp, why would he/she take the time to secure it into the cement for stability and then carefully place Celina where she was found, then swim back & climb out without cutting the cable so it would sink & not be seen?

I think that's a cable & winch used by le/fish & game/fbi. I think the reason they knew to dive there, even though they searched other parts of the river & pond system, is bc truck tire marks were found right near that on the other side of the dam (not the other side of the river). I think they (le) would want to preserve that evidence & take molds & pics of the tire marks so in order to keep it preverved they moved down about 30-50 feet to dive & retrieve. I keep thinking about the investigators examining the undercarriage of Wendell's truck. Maybe they were looking for brush foliage or soil?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 10:21:08 AM
klaas TY for the enlargement, i dont think it belongs to the divers or LE
more img
pulling celina up img
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1457613#msg1457613

vid of celina being pulled up
http://www.wmur.com/r/28729725/detail.html

wide img of area
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

wonder if they are looking at the shiny thing
http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2011/08/02/1312260996_7165/539w.jpg


Thanks for the links. I'm just gonna hotlink to that pic so it's with these ones:

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Bodybeingremoved1.jpg)

In the above pic you can clearly see the line coming straight up from the stretcher that they are using to pull it out of the water.
A
nd then look to the right through the tree branches you can see the winch lying right on the rocks right where it is in the other pic.  It does not look like LE are using it..can someone blow this up more to see clearly.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 10:22:20 AM
I believe the winch and pully was used by LE to bring Celina's body up out of the water. I don't believe it's anything the perp used to lower her into the water.  I agree, they (the perps) likely simply pushed her body over the edge.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:26:42 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/07/nh_town_moves_slowly_beyond_grief/


N.H. town moves slowly beyond grief
Celina Cass remembered at annual festival

(http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2011/08/07/1312689761_5380/539w.jpg)
The annual Stewartstown Day event in New Hampshire gave residents a respite from grieving over the death of Celina Cass, 11. (Fred Field)

By Martine Powers
Globe Correspondent / August 7, 2011

STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. - The parade theme was TV shows, and almost every float fit the bill: A tractor hauled a faux 18-wheeler with a sign that read “Ice Road Truckers,’’ girls on a pink wagon were contestants from “The Bachelorette,’’ and women from a nursing home waved from a wagon labeled “The Price is Right: Barker’s Beauties.’’

But one float was different.

Covered in a rainbow array of bows, garlands of pink and white flowers, and photos of a girl with big brown eyes and a sweet grin, that float was dedicated to Celina Cass, the 11-year-old whose body was discovered in a nearby river last week.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 10:27:19 AM
Maybe LE used the winch to the right in the pic to slide the stretcher into the water..and then it looks like they may have two lines attached pulling it out.  One in the center and one a little to the left..or that could be a shadow of the center one.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:33:29 AM
klaas TY for the enlargement, i dont think it belongs to the divers or LE
more img
pulling celina up img
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1457613#msg1457613

vid of celina being pulled up
http://www.wmur.com/r/28729725/detail.html

wide img of area
http://www.vosizneias.com/assets/uploads/news_photos/thumbnails/800_f513e937c9b6ccb67e06b7b531c3e8fc.jpg

wonder if they are looking at the shiny thing
http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2011/08/02/1312260996_7165/539w.jpg


Thanks for the links. I'm just gonna hotlink to that pic so it's with these ones:

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Bodybeingremoved1.jpg)

In the above pic you can clearly see the line coming straight up from the stretcher that they are using to pull it out of the water.
A
nd then look to the right through the tree branches you can see the winch lying right on the rocks right where it is in the other pic.  It does not look like LE are using it..can someone blow this up more to see clearly.


Gypsy, I know what you're saying but maybe a better example would be a pulley system that a rock climber or cliff climber would use. The cable doesn't just end with the hook at the one end. There would be another cable from above to pull up the body, while the pulley on the diagonal ledge would be used to rotate that cable or to keep it flowing. It's harder to explain what is in my mind. Hope I'm not confusing you. :-)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 10:35:39 AM
Not a fishing pole but looks a bit like cable and a winch:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6125/6016096121_efe032a32b_b.jpg)

(http://static.traderscity.com/board/userpix37/26236-hand-winch-pulling-grip-1.jpg)

Thank you for blowing that up KLAAS.  That's what I thought it might be a page or two back but couldn't get my computer to enlarge it much.  And it looks like a swivel to it..I wonder if they think someone lowered her into the water using that?

Still catching up..but thank you.

Pardon how crass this sounds......but, I don't think the numbskull killer would have had the sense/foresight to even use a winch and pulley.
 
As awful as it is, I think he just literally tossed her in the water.  No muss. No fuss.  Get it done fast, and hightail it out of there.
 

I agree tcumom

Gypsy, when I looked at the bigger picture with all the le standing over & the complete pulley system showing, I could see where the cable is pulled taut, Which means somebody has to be on the other end of it where the hook would be. I believe it was used by the divers. I'm kinda thinking if it were used by the perp, why would he/she take the time to secure it into the cement for stability and then carefully place Celina where she was found, then swim back & climb out without cutting the cable so it would sink & not be seen?

I think that's a cable & winch used by le/fish & game/fbi. I think the reason they knew to dive there, even though they searched other parts of the river & pond system, is bc truck tire marks were found right near that on the other side of the dam (not the other side of the river). I think they (le) would want to preserve that evidence & take molds & pics of the tire marks so in order to keep it preverved they moved down about 30-50 feet to dive & retrieve. I keep thinking about the investigators examining the undercarriage of Wendell's truck. Maybe they were looking for brush foliage or soil?

Thank you Titch..yesterday when people where thinking it was a fishing rod I thought it looked like a winch with a swivel on it..and posted that at that time..that's why I was happy to see an enlargement.  I think LE probably were using it, to place the stretcher in the water ..and I do think there were tire tracks that matched a certain truck..and possibly they could see where vegetation had been run over and some ripped out by an under carriage.  You pull over into weeds and some may just end up underneath your truck.  once they put a few peices of the puzzle togehter they certainly were quick in finding her body..which I am sure her parents and family are thankful for.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:39:14 AM
Gypsy, I agree. That's exactly what I think.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 10:46:14 AM
Gypsy, I agree. That's exactly what I think.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:46:36 AM
Forgot my manners... Good morning monkeys & guests.

(http://emob155.photobucket.com/albums/s316/Jenny-LaBoricua/Greetings/th_goodmorning.gif)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 07, 2011, 11:00:29 AM
Thanks klaas, I can tell/see your right.
Gmoring everyone.... ::HelloKitty::

As for the parade with mom/gmom on float, have to agree with all that's just plain wied.
Everyone grieves differently however why put yourself in the spot light.
It's almost like, poor me..jmo

 ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 11:10:16 AM
Thanks klaas, I can tell/see your right.
Gmoring everyone.... ::HelloKitty::

As for the parade with mom/gmom on float, have to agree with all that's just plain wied.
Everyone grieves differently however why put yourself in the spot light.
It's almost like, poor me..jmo

 ::MonkeyEek::



The thing that is weird to me.....Until yesterday she required absolute privacy including being hidden behind blankets then Friday they have the private memorial service and the next day she rides in a float in front of the town and all the media.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 11:15:49 AM
I am still interested in the elusive blanket that was reportedly wrapped around her when she was found.

I wonder if Mom recognized the blanket from their home.  Interesting to me is that the Colebrook Chronicle had reported that her pillow and comforter were on the couch that morning.

And I am still wondering about that side door to the house that LE was pictured around..where did it lead to..a mudroom..into the first floor..into the basment..or both..or was it the second floor entrance?  It is on the side of the house where the second floor looked vacant and had the for rent sign in the second floor window.

I do think it is wierd about the Mom and her sister, with friends, being on the float.  The Mom looks uncomfortable..just sitting there.  Who would have suggested such a thing and made her feel like she should do that?  From the look of her on the float I don't think it was her idea.  Did the people who organized this think this was a way of getting on with their parade and celebration day by putting Celina and her family out there to affirm it was okay to go on with things?  To kind of reassure everyone it was okay to have the parade and celebration even though a child was murdered?  Small towns sometimes don't like their routine disrupted..not for anything..so just include them, acknowledge Celina's death and get on with it..when really it appears to be a murder.  I am just thinking this was a comittee's doing this..not the family.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 11:22:33 AM
Thanks klaas, I can tell/see your right.
Gmoring everyone.... ::HelloKitty::

As for the parade with mom/gmom on float, have to agree with all that's just plain wied.
Everyone grieves differently however why put yourself in the spot light.
It's almost like, poor me..jmo

 ::MonkeyEek::



The thing that is weird to me.....Until yesterday she required absolute privacy including being hidden behind blankets then Friday they have the private memorial service and the next day she rides in a float in front of the town and all the media.

I agree.  Hiding her head under a blanket and her friend saying she requires absolute privacy.  I think that float with Kayla throwing candy out of Celina's hat was bizarre.  Celina hasn't even been laid to rest yet.  I know people live differently but it makes no sense to me that Louisia is so painfully shy yet rides on that float knowing that the media was going to be there.  Creepy.   


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 07, 2011, 11:30:24 AM
i think the shiny thing might be the cable part of the winch,the cable could be
broken off the crank part of the winch,so maybe it has nothing to do with, celina
just something in the water that came up with the stretcher. your prob right the
perp/s just dumped her in the river,and didnt use any type of floating device, to
get her out and in the river


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 07, 2011, 11:34:40 AM
I am still interested in the elusive blanket that was reportedly wrapped around her when she was found.

I wonder if Mom recognized the blanket from their home.  Interesting to me is that the Colebrook Chronicle had reported that her pillow and comforter were on the couch that morning.


Was stated the girls slept in the basement.
Her sister was at a slept over, so did Celina sleep in the basement or the 1st floor on the couch?
IF the couch, then mom would of seen her before she left for work.

Also why did the neighbor call the cops, not the family.
Something just doesn't add up to me...
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:36:12 AM
Well, this is interesting.

Hopefully, you can see this short audio/video about the parade.  The last shot is a picture of Celina, Louisia, and Kayla . . . I think it must be of Louisia's wedding (?) to pornoWendell . . . or else, Louisia's playing dress-up.

It is worth looking at.

http://www.wcax.com/story/15222406/celina


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:39:13 AM
I am still interested in the elusive blanket that was reportedly wrapped around her when she was found.

I wonder if Mom recognized the blanket from their home.  Interesting to me is that the Colebrook Chronicle had reported that her pillow and comforter were on the couch that morning.

And I am still wondering about that side door to the house that LE was pictured around..where did it lead to..a mudroom..into the first floor..into the basment..or both..or was it the second floor entrance?  It is on the side of the house where the second floor looked vacant and had the for rent sign in the second floor window.

I do think it is wierd about the Mom and her sister, with friends, being on the float.  The Mom looks uncomfortable..just sitting there.  Who would have suggested such a thing and made her feel like she should do that?  From the look of her on the float I don't think it was her idea.  Did the people who organized this think this was a way of getting on with their parade and celebration day by putting Celina and her family out there to affirm it was okay to go on with things?  To kind of reassure everyone it was okay to have the parade and celebration even though a child was murdered?  Small towns sometimes don't like their routine disrupted..not for anything..so just include them, acknowledge Celina's death and get on with it..when really it appears to be a murder.  I am just thinking this was a comittee's doing this..not the family.

Last night, nosing around, I found a video clip with a lot of pictures of the Celina float. 
The newscaster said the family decorated and designed the float the day before. 
I am trying to find that clip.  I think it was a *very* local station. 
I did attach a video above this posting somewhere, and it's interesting to see and hear, too.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 11:48:50 AM
Well, this is interesting.

Hopefully, you can see this short audio/video about the parade.  The last shot is a picture of Celina, Louisia, and Kayla . . . I think it must be of Louisia's wedding (?) to pornoWendell . . . or else, Louisia's playing dress-up.

It is worth looking at.

http://www.wcax.com/story/15222406/celina

Thank-you TCUmom, I need to install a "flasher" for the video, always something.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Louisa is with her mother, according to other reports.  Her mother looks like she grew up in the 1960's, straight hair,
sorta looking like a flower child. No reporter knows her name  ::MonkeyTongue::


Mom’s moving tribute
Family, friends pull together for Celina Cass at town fest
By John Zaremba
Sunday, August 7, 2011

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&srvc=news&position=2






Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:49:35 AM
Okay, here's the video that talks about the family decorating the float, also showing Celina's maternal grandmother (no name given), and Adam Laro.

It is the the first choice of videos, called Update 9.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/

I won't keep posting all this stuff; I am embarrassed about it......I've become obsessed AND consumed with this story.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
Well, this is interesting.

Hopefully, you can see this short audio/video about the parade.  The last shot is a picture of Celina, Louisia, and Kayla . . . I think it must be of Louisia's wedding (?) to pornoWendell . . . or else, Louisia's playing dress-up.

It is worth looking at.

http://www.wcax.com/story/15222406/celina

Thank-you TCUmom, I need to install a "flasher" for the video, always something.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Louisa is with her mother, according to other reports.  Her mother looks like she grew up in the 1960's, straight hair,
sorta looking like a flower child. No reporter knows her name  ::MonkeyTongue::


Mom’s moving tribute
Family, friends pull together for Celina Cass at town fest
By John Zaremba
Sunday, August 7, 2011

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&srvc=news&position=2

I see Louisia and her mother are both wearing wedding rings.  Just commenting.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 12:04:39 PM
Okay, here's the video that talks about the family decorating the float, also showing Celina's maternal grandmother (no name given), and Adam Laro.

It is the the first choice of videos, called Update 9.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/

I won't keep posting all this stuff; I am embarrassed about it......I've become obsessed AND consumed with this story.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Don't you dare be embarassed & stop posting tgis stuff! Omgosh it's so interesting. Besides, it helps us to be thorough with having all of this info.

I'm trying to find out where Kevin is. Any news on him lately?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 12:07:53 PM
Well, this is interesting.

Hopefully, you can see this short audio/video about the parade.  The last shot is a picture of Celina, Louisia, and Kayla . . . I think it must be of Louisia's wedding (?) to pornoWendell . . . or else, Louisia's playing dress-up.

It is worth looking at.

http://www.wcax.com/story/15222406/celina

Thank-you TCUmom, I need to install a "flasher" for the video, always something.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Louisa is with her mother, according to other reports.  Her mother looks like she grew up in the 1960's, straight hair,
sorta looking like a flower child. No reporter knows her name  ::MonkeyTongue::


Mom’s moving tribute
Family, friends pull together for Celina Cass at town fest
By John Zaremba
Sunday, August 7, 2011

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&srvc=news&position=2






seahorse, where are you seeing pictures?  I can't find them.  BTW, read the comments following this article.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 12:12:06 PM
Well, this is interesting.

Hopefully, you can see this short audio/video about the parade.  The last shot is a picture of Celina, Louisia, and Kayla . . . I think it must be of Louisia's wedding (?) to pornoWendell . . . or else, Louisia's playing dress-up.

It is worth looking at.

http://www.wcax.com/story/15222406/celina

Thank-you TCUmom, I need to install a "flasher" for the video, always something.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Louisa is with her mother, according to other reports.  Her mother looks like she grew up in the 1960's, straight hair,
sorta looking like a flower child. No reporter knows her name  ::MonkeyTongue::


Mom’s moving tribute
Family, friends pull together for Celina Cass at town fest
By John Zaremba
Sunday, August 7, 2011

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&srvc=news&position=2

I see Louisia and her mother are both wearing wedding rings.  Just commenting.


I also see they are not hugging, I am a huggy-bear type.


Yes, you are alert for details.

 Louisa is hanging on to a folding chair (not visible)
In addition, her mother has an eerie look towards her daughter, IMO.

 She it does reminds of a person in an Alfred Hitchcock movie, I do not want to be disrespectful, I will refrain of what movie (I have in mind), hint “Victorian house”
Was in the flick. 



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 12:20:52 PM
Okay, here's the video that talks about the family decorating the float, also showing Celina's maternal grandmother (no name given), and Adam Laro.

It is the the first choice of videos, called Update 9.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/

I won't keep posting all this stuff; I am embarrassed about it......I've become obsessed AND consumed with this story.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Don't you dare be embarassed & stop posting tgis stuff! Omgosh it's so interesting. Besides, it helps us to be thorough with having all of this info.

I'm trying to find out where Kevin is. Any news on him lately?

Probably hiding under a rock. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 07, 2011, 12:23:41 PM
Well, this is interesting.

Hopefully, you can see this short audio/video about the parade.  The last shot is a picture of Celina, Louisia, and Kayla . . . I think it must be of Louisia's wedding (?) to pornoWendell . . . or else, Louisia's playing dress-up.

It is worth looking at.

http://www.wcax.com/story/15222406/celina

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/CelinaCassDay-.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 12:30:15 PM
Well, this is interesting.

Hopefully, you can see this short audio/video about the parade.  The last shot is a picture of Celina, Louisia, and Kayla . . . I think it must be of Louisia's wedding (?) to pornoWendell . . . or else, Louisia's playing dress-up.

It is worth looking at.

http://www.wcax.com/story/15222406/celina

Thank-you TCUmom, I need to install a "flasher" for the video, always something.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Louisa is with her mother, according to other reports.  Her mother looks like she grew up in the 1960's, straight hair,
sorta looking like a flower child. No reporter knows her name  ::MonkeyTongue::


Mom’s moving tribute
Family, friends pull together for Celina Cass at town fest
By John Zaremba
Sunday, August 7, 2011

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&srvc=news&position=2


http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&srvc=news&position=2

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.240

seahorse, where are you seeing pictures?  I can't find them.  BTW, read the comments following this article.

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&srvc=news&position=2

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.240 4285



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 01:01:29 PM
Forget about my saying I'm not turbo-posting anymore .   :2redman:

Get a load of the first pic in this gallery !    ::MonkeyShocked::

The description reads:
Gallery of Celina Cass
Chitose Suzuki
Tommie Richards, mother of Celina Cass’ stepfather Wendell Noyes, sits in front of Celina’s house during the Stewartstown Day parade in Stewartstown, N.H., on Saturday, Aug. 6, 2011.
 
http://www.bostonherald.com/galleries/index.php?gallery_id=5603

Going back to see the rest of the pics now.  ::MonkeyBike::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 07, 2011, 01:04:57 PM
Forget about my saying I'm not turbo-posting anymore .   :2redman:

Get a load of the first pic in this gallery !    ::MonkeyShocked::

The description reads:
Gallery of Celina Cass
Chitose Suzuki
Tommie Richards, mother of Celina Cass’ stepfather Wendell Noyes, sits in front of Celina’s house during the Stewartstown Day parade in Stewartstown, N.H., on Saturday, Aug. 6, 2011.
 
http://www.bostonherald.com/galleries/index.php?gallery_id=5603

Going back to see the rest of the pics now.  ::MonkeyBike::



(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/TommieRichardsWendallmom.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 01:07:24 PM
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110807/NEWS03/708079979

Celina’s mom, sister join parade
From Staff and Correspondent reports
Published Aug 7, 2011 at 3:00 am (Updated Aug 6, 2011)

Snipped:
“Memories Never Fade,” read a banner attached to a float filled with children and stuffed animals. “May Celina RiP.”

The parade route passed by Celina’s home, where the 11-year-old girl was last seen alive about two weeks ago. Saturday, Celina’s mother, Louisa Noyes, and her older sister, Kayla, rode on the float, a trailer decorated with flowers and ribbon.

Snipped:
“At this juncture, the laboratory is examining pieces of evidence,” Young said. “Toxicology has been sent out to a lab in Pennsylvania, and the police continue their investigation by talking to witnesses, following up on leads,” she said.
 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 01:12:35 PM
Thanks for posting that pic, JerseyGirl !  ::MonkeyKiss::

She looks rather perturbed . Ya think!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 07, 2011, 01:15:39 PM
Thanks for posting that pic, JerseyGirl !  ::MonkeyKiss::

She looks rather perturbed . Ya think!

YW..This case is beyond strange.  Wendells mom looks in deep thought.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 01:28:48 PM
Thanks for posting that pic, JerseyGirl !  ::MonkeyKiss::

She looks rather perturbed . Ya think!

YW..This case is beyond strange.  Wendells mom looks in deep thought.

Holy shit. It's like researching Putnam County FL! Dontcha think? It's beyond crazy iyam. It's just " off". Kwim?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 01:29:02 PM
Forget about my saying I'm not turbo-posting anymore .   :2redman:

Get a load of the first pic in this gallery !    ::MonkeyShocked::

The description reads:
Gallery of Celina Cass
Chitose Suzuki
Tommie Richards, mother of Celina Cass’ stepfather Wendell Noyes, sits in front of Celina’s house during the Stewartstown Day parade in Stewartstown, N.H., on Saturday, Aug. 6, 2011.
 
http://www.bostonherald.com/galleries/index.php?gallery_id=5603

Going back to see the rest of the pics now.  ::MonkeyBike::



(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/TommieRichardsWendallmom.jpg)

Doesn't anybody have the same last name?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 01:36:27 PM
Thanks for posting that pic, JerseyGirl !  ::MonkeyKiss::

She looks rather perturbed . Ya think!

YW..This case is beyond strange.  Wendells mom looks in deep thought.

Holy shit. It's like researching Putnam County FL! Dontcha think? It's beyond crazy iyam. It's just " off". Kwim?

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 01:38:54 PM
I've been reading Dan Cass' FB wall. 
He is determined that Wendell is the killer. 
Dan is livid.  Evidently, he's a distant cousin, and will be at the services tomorrow.

Interesting reading his comments.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 01:47:18 PM
Doesn't anybody have the same last name?

Isn't that the truth ? 

I'll tell you one thing...it really makes one appreciate their own family !  ;)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 01:59:06 PM
I've been reading Dan Cass' FB wall. 
He is determined that Wendell is the killer. 
Dan is livid.  Evidently, he's a distant cousin, and will be at the services tomorrow.

Interesting reading his comments.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423

Wow, he sure does seem convinced! Here's his top few latest posts. Dan, if you happen to read here, my God we all feel terrible for your family & loved ones of Celina's. These posts are from today's date:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Cass/100000535910423?sk=wall

Quote:

Dan Cass
unbelievable!
tomorrow i will go say goodbye to celina cass cousin of many and mine as well.celina never had the chance to finish her life because animals decided to use her and then hide her body in the river...
about an hour ago · Share
2 people like this.

Dan Cass
scumbags that say they are crazy after they commit a crime hmmm?they are sane enough to decide the are crazy!!come scumbag take a ride into the deep woods i will show you crazy!
about an hour ago
Miranda Nichole St Pierre likes this.

Dan Cass
any cass family care to join me in the psych ward we can visit knucker!???
about an hour ago
Miranda Nichole St Pierre likes this.

Miranda Nichole St Pierre I'm not blood family but I will go with you we are still praying for you all in church 2 day
about an hour ago

 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 02:13:14 PM

Wow, he sure does seem convinced! Here's his top few latest posts. Dan, if you happen to read here, my God we all feel terrible for your family & loved ones of Celina's. These posts are from today's date:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Cass/100000535910423?sk=wall

Quote:

Dan Cass
unbelievable!
tomorrow i will go say goodbye to celina cass cousin of many and mine as well.celina never had the chance to finish her life because animals decided to use her and then hide her body in the river...
about an hour ago · Share
2 people like this.

Dan Cass
scumbags that say they are crazy after they commit a crime hmmm?they are sane enough to decide the are crazy!!come scumbag take a ride into the deep woods i will show you crazy!
about an hour ago
Miranda Nichole St Pierre likes this.

Dan Cass
any cass family care to join me in the psych ward we can visit knucker!???
about an hour ago
Miranda Nichole St Pierre likes this.

Miranda Nichole St Pierre I'm not blood family but I will go with you we are still praying for you all in church 2 day
about an hour ago


Here's another posting of Dan's:

unbelievable!
by Dan Cass on Sunday, 07 August 2011 at 11:29

tomorrow i will go say goodbye to celina cass cousin of many and mine as well.celina never had the chance to finish her life because animals decided to use her and then hide her body in the river. now this is sick and the people who do these things should perish as well.if you didn't think this was wrong why did u try to hide her body u scumbags are *edit language* and should be put out of your misery. and i hope if i can witness to tell my family i saw u punished like u should be not locked up for u will still be alive and wasting tax payer money because is inhumane to kill u but what u did is animal like and a predator of misery for all!!!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 02:16:56 PM
Hmmm...

This is from Dan's profile pics album on his fb:

Link to his profile pic album:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.155607281133801.33830.100000535910423

Comments under a picture of Dan are a little interesting:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=920413&id=100000535910423

Quote:
Added December 13, 2009

Carlene LaBranche HI Dan..Think of you often and wonder how you are doing.
August 26, 2010 at 11:37am

Dan Cass lost my lady i guess not sure had to shoot my dog last week cause it bit me but ok i guess.
August 26, 2010 at 9:59pm

Dan Cass doing ok thanks
August 31, 2010 at 6:41pm

Soni Cross Yee Sorry to hear about the dog! That's too bad. What happened?
September 1, 2010 at 4:00pm

Dan Cass she bite me so i shoot her.
March 29 at 11:26am




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 07, 2011, 02:19:22 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/marker2.jpg)

Could someone with better eyes tell me what you see in the water in this image?  Is this before they pulled Celina out of the water?  I don't want to say what it looks like to me...but I do not have the best vision.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 07, 2011, 02:21:35 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/marker2.jpg)

Could someone with better eyes tell me what you see in the water in this image?  Is this before they pulled Celina out of the water?  I don't want to say what it looks like to me...but I do not have the best vision.

I guess looking again...it could be a part of the tree...the leaf with the edge shining...is that what you all are seeing?  To me, at first, it appeared to Celina wrapped up in the blanket in the now shallow water...wow, my imagination.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/marker2.jpg)

Could someone with better eyes tell me what you see in the water in this image?  Is this before they pulled Celina out of the water?  I don't want to say what it looks like to me...but I do not have the best vision.

Probably one of the divers


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 02:32:48 PM
Hmmm...

This is from Dan's profile pics album on his fb:

Link to his profile pic album:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.155607281133801.33830.100000535910423

Comments under a picture of Dan are a little interesting:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=920413&id=100000535910423

Quote:
Added December 13, 2009

Carlene LaBranche HI Dan..Think of you often and wonder how you are doing.
August 26, 2010 at 11:37am

Dan Cass lost my lady i guess not sure had to shoot my dog last week cause it bit me but ok i guess.
August 26, 2010 at 9:59pm

Dan Cass doing ok thanks
August 31, 2010 at 6:41pm

Soni Cross Yee Sorry to hear about the dog! That's too bad. What happened?
September 1, 2010 at 4:00pm

Dan Cass she bite me so i shoot her.
March 29 at 11:26am




OMG.  I was just getting ready to post that.  There is nothing else to say about that - it speaks for itself.

BTW, to we know anything about Gordon Edward Noyes of Canaan, Vermont, Wendell's brother, who was convicted of sexual assault and lewd and lascivious conduct with a child in January of 2005?  Also, his uncle, Norman Bruce Noyes St. Johnsbury, Vermong, his uncle, who was convicted of Sexual Assault in September of 1999?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
Hmmm...

This is from Dan's profile pics album on his fb:

Link to his profile pic album:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.155607281133801.33830.100000535910423

Comments under a picture of Dan are a little interesting:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=920413&id=100000535910423

Quote:
Added December 13, 2009

Carlene LaBranche HI Dan..Think of you often and wonder how you are doing.
August 26, 2010 at 11:37am

Dan Cass lost my lady i guess not sure had to shoot my dog last week cause it bit me but ok i guess.
August 26, 2010 at 9:59pm

Dan Cass doing ok thanks
August 31, 2010 at 6:41pm

Soni Cross Yee Sorry to hear about the dog! That's too bad. What happened?
September 1, 2010 at 4:00pm

Dan Cass she bite me so i shoot her.
March 29 at 11:26am




OMG.  I was just getting ready to post that.  There is nothing else to say about that - it speaks for itself.

BTW, to we know anything about Gordon Edward Noyes of Canaan, Vermont, Wendell's brother, who was convicted of sexual assault and lewd and lascivious conduct with a child in January of 2005?  Also, his uncle, Norman Bruce Noyes St. Johnsbury, Vermong, his uncle, who was convicted of Sexual Assault in September of 1999?


Well, that's disturbing ~ I was thinking Dan might be a little less  ::MonkeyEek::, but obviously I wasn't thinking clearly.  sigh.

I was just getting ready to ask about the brother and uncle . . . seeing Wendell's mom in that pic started me back to thinking about those relatives.

I think the monkey clan is starting to read each other's thoughts !   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 02:48:41 PM
Hmmm...

This is from Dan's profile pics album on his fb:

Link to his profile pic album:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.155607281133801.33830.100000535910423

Comments under a picture of Dan are a little interesting:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=920413&id=100000535910423

Quote:
Added December 13, 2009

Carlene LaBranche HI Dan..Think of you often and wonder how you are doing.
August 26, 2010 at 11:37am

Dan Cass lost my lady i guess not sure had to shoot my dog last week cause it bit me but ok i guess.
August 26, 2010 at 9:59pm

Dan Cass doing ok thanks
August 31, 2010 at 6:41pm

Soni Cross Yee Sorry to hear about the dog! That's too bad. What happened?
September 1, 2010 at 4:00pm

Dan Cass she bite me so i shoot her.
March 29 at 11:26am




OMG.  I was just getting ready to post that.  There is nothing else to say about that - it speaks for itself.

BTW, to we know anything about Gordon Edward Noyes of Canaan, Vermont, Wendell's brother, who was convicted of sexual assault and lewd and lascivious conduct with a child in January of 2005?  Also, his uncle, Norman Bruce Noyes St. Johnsbury, Vermong, his uncle, who was convicted of Sexual Assault in September of 1999?


Well, that's disturbing ~ I was thinking Dan might be a little less  ::MonkeyEek::, but obviously I wasn't thinking clearly.  sigh.

I was just getting ready to ask about the brother and uncle . . . seeing Wendell's mom in that pic started me back to thinking about those relatives.

I think the monkey clan is starting to read each other's thoughts !   ::MonkeyCool::

That's funny because it was seeing Louisia that started me thinking about the Cass side also.  With all the various people in this very disjointed family, I've never seen or heard mention of Louisia's mother, not even in the obituary that I recall.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 07, 2011, 02:52:05 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/marker2.jpg)

Could someone with better eyes tell me what you see in the water in this image?  Is this before they pulled Celina out of the water?  I don't want to say what it looks like to me...but I do not have the best vision.

Probably one of the divers

I posted the pic in the photo thread.. The video said it was a marker before Celina's body was retrieved..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Samarie on August 07, 2011, 03:06:10 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/marker2.jpg)

Could someone with better eyes tell me what you see in the water in this image?  Is this before they pulled Celina out of the water?  I don't want to say what it looks like to me...but I do not have the best vision.

Probably one of the divers

I posted the pic in the photo thread.. The video said it was a marker before Celina's body was retrieved..

If that's a marker identifying where Celina's body was located, I'd say it appears to be very close to the sloped portion of the bridge/dam where that cinche was found. We know she was wrapped in a blanket, and I think she may have placed her in some sort of weighted container and then slide down that sloped portion of the stone structure. Bet they backed the truck right up to it....I'm wondering if there's more than 1 person involved...at least when it came to hiding the body. That scenario would also explain the wet clothes in the truck...someone had to guide the container into the water to avoid it spilling, or popping open....so sad


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 03:07:08 PM
Hmmm...

This is from Dan's profile pics album on his fb:

Link to his profile pic album:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.155607281133801.33830.100000535910423

Comments under a picture of Dan are a little interesting:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=920413&id=100000535910423

Quote:
Added December 13, 2009

Carlene LaBranche HI Dan..Think of you often and wonder how you are doing.
August 26, 2010 at 11:37am

Dan Cass lost my lady i guess not sure had to shoot my dog last week cause it bit me but ok i guess.
August 26, 2010 at 9:59pm

Dan Cass doing ok thanks
August 31, 2010 at 6:41pm

Soni Cross Yee Sorry to hear about the dog! That's too bad. What happened?
September 1, 2010 at 4:00pm

Dan Cass she bite me so i shoot her.
March 29 at 11:26am


OMG.  I was just getting ready to post that.  There is nothing else to say about that - it speaks for itself.

BTW, to we know anything about Gordon Edward Noyes of Canaan, Vermont, Wendell's brother, who was convicted of sexual assault and lewd and lascivious conduct with a child in January of 2005?  Also, his uncle, Norman Bruce Noyes St. Johnsbury, Vermong, his uncle, who was convicted of Sexual Assault in September of 1999?


Well, that's disturbing ~ I was thinking Dan might be a little less  ::MonkeyEek::, but obviously I wasn't thinking clearly.  sigh.

I was just getting ready to ask about the brother and uncle . . . seeing Wendell's mom in that pic started me back to thinking about those relatives.

I think the monkey clan is starting to read each other's thoughts !   ::MonkeyCool::

That's funny because it was seeing Louisia that started me thinking about the Cass side also.  With all the various people in this very disjointed family, I've never seen or heard mention of Louisia's mother, not even in the obituary that I recall.

Patti, I posted pics & info of Gordon & Nathan in the last thread. I thought I put it in the pics or who's who thread, but I just checked & I didn't. Maybe that thread was added afterwards? I thought Jersey posted the info on bro & uncle too...maybe I'm wrong? I'll go look now & put it in the who's who thread.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 03:11:33 PM
When they interviewed Nick Noyes they identified him as Celina's step brother...so how many kids does Wendell have.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 07, 2011, 03:15:08 PM
I posted some pics of the family in the photo thread.. You can move them in the who's who's thread..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 07, 2011, 03:17:35 PM
Hmmm...

This is from Dan's profile pics album on his fb:

Link to his profile pic album:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.155607281133801.33830.100000535910423

Comments under a picture of Dan are a little interesting:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=920413&id=100000535910423

Quote:
Added December 13, 2009

Carlene LaBranche HI Dan..Think of you often and wonder how you are doing.
August 26, 2010 at 11:37am

Dan Cass lost my lady i guess not sure had to shoot my dog last week cause it bit me but ok i guess.
August 26, 2010 at 9:59pm

Dan Cass doing ok thanks
August 31, 2010 at 6:41pm

Soni Cross Yee Sorry to hear about the dog! That's too bad. What happened?
September 1, 2010 at 4:00pm

Dan Cass she bite me so i shoot her.
March 29 at 11:26am


OMG.  I was just getting ready to post that.  There is nothing else to say about that - it speaks for itself.

BTW, to we know anything about Gordon Edward Noyes of Canaan, Vermont, Wendell's brother, who was convicted of sexual assault and lewd and lascivious conduct with a child in January of 2005?  Also, his uncle, Norman Bruce Noyes St. Johnsbury, Vermong, his uncle, who was convicted of Sexual Assault in September of 1999?


Well, that's disturbing ~ I was thinking Dan might be a little less  ::MonkeyEek::, but obviously I wasn't thinking clearly.  sigh.

I was just getting ready to ask about the brother and uncle . . . seeing Wendell's mom in that pic started me back to thinking about those relatives.

I think the monkey clan is starting to read each other's thoughts !   ::MonkeyCool::

That's funny because it was seeing Louisia that started me thinking about the Cass side also.  With all the various people in this very disjointed family, I've never seen or heard mention of Louisia's mother, not even in the obituary that I recall.

Patti, I posted pics & info of Gordon & Nathan in the last thread. I thought I put it in the pics or who's who thread, but I just checked & I didn't. Maybe that thread was added afterwards? I thought Jersey posted the info on bro & uncle too...maybe I'm wrong? I'll go look now & put it in the who's who thread.


http://mockforums.net/thread-6140-page-2.html

GORDON EDWARD NOYES
NORMAN BRUCE NOYES



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 03:18:24 PM
When they interviewed Nick Noyes they identified him as Celina's step brother...so how many kids does Wendell have.

Wendell probably doesn't know . . . lost track of 'em .....


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 03:22:03 PM
When they interviewed Nick Noyes they identified him as Celina's step brother...so how many kids does Wendell have.

Wendell probably doesn't know . . . lost track of 'em .....


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 03:42:08 PM
When they interviewed Nick Noyes they identified him as Celina's step brother...so how many kids does Wendell have.

Wendell probably doesn't know . . . lost track of 'em .....

::MonkeyHaHa::

If a man is a schizophrenic, what about if each multiple personality fathered a child...how would he know who to call his son or daughter? Before anybody thinks I'm joking, I'm being serious lol. Does Wendell take medicine for his mental illness? I'm assuming that if schizophrenia was a correct diagnosis, then he'd be on meds for the rest of his life...maybe an anti anxiety or anti depressant tab, plus maybe lithium or something. If my guess is correct, then he isn't supposed to drink. So, why does he then? Alcohol mixed with some anti psychotic drugs can make a person go even more nuts.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 03:42:52 PM
Janet, thank you.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 07, 2011, 03:47:23 PM
(http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20110807/ee0442_080611girldeadcs02.jpg)

Forgive me if this picture has already been posted (at this angle).


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 07, 2011, 03:51:09 PM
(http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20110807/ee0442_080611girldeadcs02.jpg)

Forgive me if this picture has already been posted (at this angle).

Meant to put this with it...
STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. — The grieving mother of Celina Cass, the 11-year-old girl whose body was pulled from the Connecticut River on Monday, made a moving and spectacular surprise tribute to her daughter yesterday, appearing on a float in the girl’s memory at their tiny town’s annual summer festival parade.

Louisa Noyes sat in a metal folding chair on a flatbed trailer, flanked by photos, flowers, hand-drawn posters, and even several local girls — including Celina’s older sister — wearing Celina’s prized princess costumes.

The mom’s participation in the parade was part of her effort to heal, a friend said.
 
snipped........

The float, a last-minute entry in the Stewartstown Day parade, came together Friday night at the urging of Celina’s older sister, Kayla, 13, Baglio said.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0807moms_moving_tribute_family_friends_pull_together_for_celina_cass_at_town_fest/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 03:58:22 PM
I just thought about this:

The obituary listed Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliott Hibbard.

I Elliott's FB ~  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002375098256&sk=wall

His FB listed several children, not any names I recognized, BUT:

Do y'all think that could be Beverly Hibbard aka Louisia's mother in that pic (where she has purple flower head wreath)?

Maybe I haven't thought this thru enough?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 04:05:45 PM
I just thought about this:

The obituary listed Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliott Hibbard.

I Elliott's FB ~  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002375098256&sk=wall

His FB listed several children, not any names I recognized, BUT:

Do y'all think that could be Beverly Hibbard aka Louisia's mother in that pic (where she has purple flower head wreath)?

Maybe I haven't thought this thru enough?   ::MonkeyEek::

ETA  Never mind.  Elliott Hibbard graduated from Colebrook Academy in 1980. 
Beats me who he is . . . maybe just a random name they threw in the obituary, figuring he might be related.  Seriously, nothing surprises me now.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 07, 2011, 04:16:56 PM
OT sorta!  Be vewy carefull over at Mock...not a thing wrong with em and Lady Cop lives up North in the Cass area and used to be a cop here in S. FL (Atlantic side, I believe) a few years ago. She is quite good and can advise sometime from a cop view.  Just so you don't get a shock over there cause it's an anything goes forum and no words or insults are off topic.  Some of the funnier peeps over there like to swoop down and just heckle for the fun of it, even in the crime forums.  Just telling you it could happen and for no reason so don't get offended.  I'm a member but haven't been there in months.  They did quite a bit with the bf/gf killed in her home late at night in Ohio.  Sorry, forgot the names.  P.S.  I'm under Melisb there and never change it anywhere.
I don't get around much cause I only belong to SM, BOC and Mock!  I don't get out much!  Besides that, I love it here always the most informative, ahead of the others and usually right on target!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 07, 2011, 04:19:00 PM
Janet, thank you.

YW

Titch

You will have to do your thing in regards to copying the images over to the designated photo thread.  Klaas and my DIL both have attempted in the past to baby-step me through the process but I must be a slow learner because other than quoting ... I am still linking.

Janet


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 04:20:21 PM
From Dan's fb wall...thought it was worth noting:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Cass/100000535910423?sk=wall

Quote:
Dan Cass
kevin mullhaney in custody truck impounded
July 29 at 7:55pm
Darleen Placey likes this.

Charles Young Is there any substantiated proof to go with this.
July 29 at 7:57pm

Dan Cass saw it
July 29 at 7:59pm

Darleen Placey did they move his truck from the apt building?
July 29 at 8:00pm

Dan Cass state took it
July 29 at 8:03pm

Darleen Placey Wow..I know they have had him in and out of custody since Tuesday.
July 29 at 8:06pm

Kristin Cass Omg!" Is this the Guy that was living there? !
July 29 at 8:11pm

Darleen Placey yes!
July 29 at 8:11pm

Dan Cass yes
July 29 at 8:12pm

Kristin Cass Omg!!!! I want to post it for people who are asking me keep them updated but I hope it's definitely true! Not that I don't believe u Dan!!! I just don't want to spread rumors....
July 29 at 8:18pm

Dan Cass ok
July 29 at 8:19pm

Kristin Cass So its a for sure Thing/ & r they saying where she is or what happened? Who is this Guy?
July 29 at 8:22pm

Darleen Placey I don't know for sure if he is in custody
July 29 at 8:23pm

Darleen Placey Earlier today he was NOT in custody and he was with Celina's family.
July 29 at 8:24pm

Kristin Cass Well even if this is remotely true...where is this poor girl?!
July 29 at 8:26pm

Dan Cass wish i knew
July 29 at 9:10pm

Marc Hibbard We just spoke with the FBI agent in charge of the case -- he says there is no one in custody and no suspects at this time.
by Trent Spiner/WMUR Staff 9:44 PM

Read more: http://livewire.wmur.com/E​vent/Search_Continues_For_​Missing_11-Year-Old_Girl#i​xzz1TY7XX2BB
July 29 at 9:54pm

Dan Cass they took truck
July 29 at 9:55pm

Dan Cass that sucks
July 29 at 9:55pm

Dan Cass more time no news not good
July 29 at 9:55pm

Dan Cass i apologize to u all!but did see truck.heard scanner must be was truck in custody.
July 29 at 9:57pm

Jonnie Wheeler i did see a red truck being escorted south, one in front of the recker and one behind,
July 30 at 6:30am

Jr Stanton kevin is a piece of shit i woudlnt trust him as far as i can throw his dumb ass
July 30 at 10:16am

Dan Cass ok
July 30 at 10:31am

Kim Vaughn-Lynch Who is this Kevin person?
July 30 at 10:33am


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 07, 2011, 04:29:19 PM
melis? Never heard of Mock before, may I have the addy to it?
 ::MonkeyWink:: ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 04:45:53 PM
I just thought about this:

The obituary listed Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliott Hibbard.

I Elliott's FB ~  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002375098256&sk=wall

His FB listed several children, not any names I recognized, BUT:

Do y'all think that could be Beverly Hibbard aka Louisia's mother in that pic (where she has purple flower head wreath)?

Maybe I haven't thought this thru enough?   ::MonkeyEek::

Yes!  I checked the three photos, and the one with glasses does look like grandmom.  ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 04:48:40 PM
I just thought about this:

The obituary listed Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliott Hibbard.

I Elliott's FB ~  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002375098256&sk=wall

His FB listed several children, not any names I recognized, BUT:

Do y'all think that could be Beverly Hibbard aka Louisia's mother in that pic (where she has purple flower head wreath)?

Maybe I haven't thought this thru enough?   ::MonkeyEek::

ETA  Never mind.  Elliott Hibbard graduated from Colebrook Academy in 1980. 
Beats me who he is . . . maybe just a random name they threw in the obituary, figuring he might be related.  Seriously, nothing surprises me now.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

She could be the second wife. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 04:57:12 PM
From Dan's fb wall...thought it was worth noting:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Cass/100000535910423?sk=wall

Quote:
Dan Cass
kevin mullhaney in custody truck impounded
July 29 at 7:55pm
Darleen Placey likes this.

Charles Young Is there any substantiated proof to go with this.
July 29 at 7:57pm

Dan Cass saw it
July 29 at 7:59pm

Darleen Placey did they move his truck from the apt building?
July 29 at 8:00pm

Dan Cass state took it
July 29 at 8:03pm

Darleen Placey Wow..I know they have had him in and out of custody since Tuesday.
July 29 at 8:06pm

Kristin Cass Omg!" Is this the Guy that was living there? !
July 29 at 8:11pm

 ::snipping2::

Kristin Cass So its a for sure Thing/ & r they saying where she is or what happened? Who is this Guy?
July 29 at 8:22pm

Darleen Placey I don't know for sure if he is in custody
July 29 at 8:23pm

Darleen Placey Earlier today he was NOT in custody and he was with Celina's family.
July 29 at 8:24pm

Kristin Cass Well even if this is remotely true...where is this poor girl?!
July 29 at 8:26pm

Dan Cass wish i knew
July 29 at 9:10pm

Marc Hibbard We just spoke with the FBI agent in charge of the case -- he says there is no one in custody and no suspects at this time.
by Trent Spiner/WMUR Staff 9:44 PM

Read more: http://livewire.wmur.com/E​vent/Search_Continues_For_​Missing_11-Year-Old_Girl#i​xzz1TY7XX2BB
July 29 at 9:54pm

Dan Cass they took truck
July 29 at 9:55pm

 ::snipping2::


Well, there's that Hibbard name popping up now.
Dan's FB wall is something else ~ I keep checking it for updates.
His cousin Kristin Cass has quite a few comments on her FB wall, too.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 05:01:29 PM
Beverly Hibbard, 72, Tilton, NH


Beverly Hibbard, 52, Colebrook, NH 


www. PIPL.com

The lady on the float with flowers in her hair looks more like 72 years old than 52 years old to me.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 07, 2011, 05:01:40 PM
melis? Never heard of Mock before, may I have the addy to it?
 ::MonkeyWink:: ::HelloKitty::

I'm sorry Phar...I read backwards and post forward from where I am and guess people can read my mind.  You can check out the some of the Noyes sickos here, http://mockforums.net/thread-6140-page-2.html

GORDON EDWARD NOYES
NORMAN BRUCE NOYES

*********
This was posted earlier by Janet and I forgot to bring it forward and give her credit!  She's so good and resourceful, sorry!  I must admit I posted that about Mock cause I was shocked it was Janet who was on there, lol!  I guess if you only go on the crime forum it might not get so funky.  Just couldn't imagine her just logging in over there and looking around, go look at stuff other than crime and you'll see!  I've got a sick sense of humor and a truck driver's mouth (in private, lol) and anything goes over there!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 05:06:15 PM
From Dan Cass' fb wall, going through the comments coming from him, we now know he is Louisa's cousin. Dan says his brother Steve is the chief of police of Colebrook. Dan says he's known Adam Laro for a long time & he's a good man. He also said his Incle Dean was Celina's grandpop...which confuses me bc I thought he had a different name? I'll have to go back & see what we all have. Kristen is Dan's cousin. He says he never met Celina but he recently learned she's kin. He's very hooked on there being 2 perps and that Celina was raped and thrown in the river. He said 2 people were in custody, out, in, out, being questioned...same thing I read by somebody else that's a lady aunt to Celina or Louisa - she was posting on one of the Missing Celina profiles. Dan says pedophile over & over, wants to lynch or brand them all. I agree with him!

His fb wall link:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Cass/100000535910423?sk=wall


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 07, 2011, 05:08:05 PM
melis? Never heard of Mock before, may I have the addy to it?
 ::MonkeyWink:: ::HelloKitty::

I'm sorry Phar...I read backwards and post forward from where I am and guess people can read my mind.  You can check out the some of the Noyes sickos here, http://mockforums.net/thread-6140-page-2.html

GORDON EDWARD NOYES
NORMAN BRUCE NOYES

*********
This was posted earlier by Janet and I forgot to bring it forward and give her credit!  She's so good and resourceful, sorry!  I must admit I posted that about Mock cause I was shocked it was Janet who was on there, lol!  I guess if you only go on the crime forum it might not get so funky.  Just couldn't imagine her just logging in over there and looking around, go look at stuff other than crime and you'll see!  I've got a sick sense of humor and a truck driver's mouth (in private, lol) and anything goes over there!

Thanks, thought I'd go over for some giggles...
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 05:10:04 PM
Beverly Hibbard, 72, Tilton, NH


Beverly Hibbard, 52, Colebrook, NH 


www. PIPL.com

The lady on the float with flowers in her hair looks more like 72 years old than 52 years old to me.

And the Elliott Hibbard name has ages like that, too.   :smt102


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 07, 2011, 05:10:50 PM
August 7, 2011
What Really Happened to Celina Cass? Video

Surprising new details in death of 11-year-old New Hampshire girl..

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1097441644001/what-really-happened-to-celina-cass/?playlist_id=163972


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 05:11:57 PM
From Dan Cass' fb wall, going through the comments coming from him, we now know he is Louisa's cousin. Dan says his brother Steve is the chief of police of Colebrook. Dan says he's known Adam Laro for a long time & he's a good man. He also said his Incle Dean was Celina's grandpop...which confuses me bc I thought he had a different name? I'll have to go back & see what we all have. Kristen is Dan's cousin. He says he never met Celina but he recently learned she's kin. He's very hooked on there being 2 perps and that Celina was raped and thrown in the river. He said 2 people were in custody, out, in, out, being questioned...same thing I read by somebody else that's a lady aunt to Celina or Louisa - she was posting on one of the Missing Celina profiles. Dan says pedophile over & over, wants to lynch or brand them all. I agree with him!

His fb wall link:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Cass/100000535910423?sk=wall
Wasn't the obituary for George D. Cass?  So, probably Dean, and I guess he went by that name?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 05:12:11 PM
From Dan Cass' fb wall, going through the comments coming from him, we now know he is Louisa's cousin. Dan says his brother Steve is the chief of police of Colebrook. Dan says he's known Adam Laro for a long time & he's a good man. He also said his Incle Dean was Celina's grandpop...which confuses me bc I thought he had a different name? I'll have to go back & see what we all have. Kristen is Dan's cousin. He says he never met Celina but he recently learned she's kin. He's very hooked on there being 2 perps and that Celina was raped and thrown in the river. He said 2 people were in custody, out, in, out, being questioned...same thing I read by somebody else that's a lady aunt to Celina or Louisa - she was posting on one of the Missing Celina profiles. Dan says pedophile over & over, wants to lynch or brand them all. I agree with him!

His fb wall link:
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Cass/100000535910423?sk=wall

Good afternoon Monkey's,

Dean may be George's middle name, IDK, a guess.

http://files.usgwarchives.org/nh/state/obits/2004/coos20040310.txt (Fourth Obit from top)

Grandfather: George D. Cass, 62, Obit, March 5, 2004: The family of Celina Cass from the 2004 obituary.

Mother: Louisia Cass of West Stewartstown (Louisa, Louis, Loisa, etc...)
Aunt: Lori McKearney of Lancaster,

Uncle: Del Cass and (Wife Joy) of Jefferson
Uncle: Donny Cass of Whitefield
Grandmother: Ernestine (Cass) Blanchard of Whitefield
Great Aunt:  Joyce Dupont of Lancaster



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 05:22:07 PM
August 7, 2011
What Really Happened to Celina Cass? Video

Surprising new details in death of 11-year-old New Hampshire girl..

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1097441644001/what-really-happened-to-celina-cass/?playlist_id=163972

Thank you so much for that link.  I thought that was a great interview, except for JudgeJ's interrupting.  oh brother.
I've already forgotten that guy's name, but he sure was well-spoken and literate.  A nice treat.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 05:22:23 PM
Beverly Hibbard, 72, Tilton, NH


Beverly Hibbard, 52, Colebrook, NH 


www. PIPL.com

The lady on the float with flowers in her hair looks more like 72 years old than 52 years old to me.

And the Elliott Hibbard name has ages like that, too.   :smt102

.
We need to blow-up the frontal picture of her “mom” on the float and compare
It to the wedding the three Hibbard wedding photos, especially the one with glasses.
I do not have technical talent

 It believes the woman is not her bio mom (IMO) but whom she calls Mom.
 
There is no chemistry between them. She would be running her fingers through her daughter’s hair, or giving her a mint, something to show she cares…the two photos of the pair on the float are almost chilling.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 07, 2011, 05:25:58 PM
Went over to Mock.
Woow, so the stepfather's family, 2 of them are in the system for SEXUAL ASSAULT .  This is way not looking good.
People in that town has to know what happened but not saying.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 05:26:13 PM
Beverly Hibbard, 72, Tilton, NH


Beverly Hibbard, 52, Colebrook, NH 


www. PIPL.com

The lady on the float with flowers in her hair looks more like 72 years old than 52 years old to me.

And the Elliott Hibbard name has ages like that, too.   :smt102

.
We need to blow-up the frontal picture of her “mom” on the float and compare
It to the wedding the three Hibbard wedding photos, especially the one with glasses.
I do not have technical talent

 It believes the woman is not her bio mom (IMO) but whom she calls Mom.
 
There is no chemistry between them. She would be running her fingers through her daughter’s hair, or giving her a mint, something to show she cares…the two photos of the pair on the float are almost chilling.

::rhino:: ::rhino:: That's what I call a distant relationship. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 05:27:10 PM
Where in heaven's name is Wendell Mullaney? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 05:32:22 PM
Beverly Hibbard, 72, Tilton, NH


Beverly Hibbard, 52, Colebrook, NH 


www. PIPL.com

The lady on the float with flowers in her hair looks more like 72 years old than 52 years old to me.

And the Elliott Hibbard name has ages like that, too.   :smt102

.
We need to blow-up the frontal picture of her “mom” on the float and compare
It to the wedding the three Hibbard wedding photos, especially the one with glasses.
I do not have technical talent

 It believes the woman is not her bio mom (IMO) but whom she calls Mom.
 
There is no chemistry between them. She would be running her fingers through her daughter’s hair, or giving her a mint, something to show she cares…the two photos of the pair on the float are almost chilling.

::rhino:: ::rhino:: That's what I call a distant relationship. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 05:35:56 PM
Where in heaven's name is Wendell Mullaney? 

TCUmom,  You need to lay-off the Sambuca in your coffee :)   Wendell Noyes or Kevin Mullaney?   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 05:39:32 PM
Where in heaven's name is Wendell Mullaney? 

TCUmom,  You need to lay-off the Sambuca in your coffee :)   Wendell Noyes or Kevin Mullaney?   ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

I think I'll go pour a tiny beverage ~ obviously, it won't impede my thinking?  teehee.

I'm trying to make them a combo plate ~ where is Wendell and where is Kevin ?  I'm laughing too hard.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 07, 2011, 05:44:33 PM
melis? Never heard of Mock before, may I have the addy to it?
 ::MonkeyWink:: ::HelloKitty::

I'm sorry Phar...I read backwards and post forward from where I am and guess people can read my mind.  You can check out the some of the Noyes sickos here, http://mockforums.net/thread-6140-page-2.html

GORDON EDWARD NOYES
NORMAN BRUCE NOYES

*********
This was posted earlier by Janet and I forgot to bring it forward and give her credit!  She's so good and resourceful, sorry!  I must admit I posted that about Mock cause I was shocked it was Janet who was on there, lol!  I guess if you only go on the crime forum it might not get so funky.  Just couldn't imagine her just logging in over there and looking around, go look at stuff other than crime and you'll see!  I've got a sick sense of humor and a truck driver's mouth (in private, lol) and anything goes over there!

I was reading at the Imperfect Parent site where a link to the Mock site was provided.  Although the info regarding stepfather's famiy was appreciated ... it was definitely a quick visit.

Janet

++++

http://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2011/07/28/public-speculation-spreads-in-the-case-of-missing-girl-celina-cass/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 05:47:49 PM

I was reading at the Imperfect Parent site where a link to the Mock site was provided.  Although the info regarding stepfather's famiy was appreciated ... it was definitely a quick visit.

Janet

++++

http://www.imperfectparent.com/topics/2011/07/28/public-speculation-spreads-in-the-case-of-missing-girl-celina-cass/

My Mom would have washed my mouth out with soap ~ my visit was quite quick, too!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 05:59:24 PM
I just thought about this:

The obituary listed Nana and Papa Beverly and Elliott Hibbard.

I Elliott's FB ~  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002375098256&sk=wall

His FB listed several children, not any names I recognized, BUT:

Do y'all think that could be Beverly Hibbard aka Louisia's mother in that pic (where she has purple flower head wreath)?

Maybe I haven't thought this thru enough?   ::MonkeyEek::

Yes!  I checked the three photos, and the one with glasses does look like grandmom.  ::MonkeySlide::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11905.0

Courtesy of Jersey Girl who posted a frontal face photo of grand mom on the float. 
Two or 3 photos from bottom of link (reply 17)

I believe this woman does resemble the woman with glasses in Elliott Hibbard
Wedding photo. IMO

No reporter knows this woman’s name?  Because she probably is
A “plant”.  IMO this is not her mom, for goodness sakes alive, IMO.

LN brothers and sisters should have someone as a relative that should
Be mom, and there is no one, trust me, I have tried to makes sense of
The family tree, I wanted to post on Who’s Who and I just cannot
Connect the dots. 
 ::MonkeyShovel::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 06:08:50 PM
Where in heaven's name is Wendell Mullaney? 

TCUmom,  You need to lay-off the Sambuca in your coffee :)   Wendell Noyes or Kevin Mullaney?   ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

I think I'll go pour a tiny beverage ~ obviously, it won't impede my thinking?  teehee.

I'm trying to make them a combo plate ~ where is Wendell and where is Kevin ?  I'm laughing too hard.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2011, 06:21:19 PM
I am totally confused on this thread of who is who ....feel like I have lost my place in a book that I am reading...


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 06:30:27 PM
I am totally confused on this thread of who is who ....feel like I have lost my place in a book that I am reading...


I knew I was in trouble when Seahorse noticed I asked where Wendell Mullaney is . . . good grief, I really need to get a grip.  :bounce:

There are so many people and names . . .we need a spread sheet, but I doubt if there's one big enough.  just nuts.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
I am totally confused on this thread of who is who ....feel like I have lost my place in a book that I am reading...


I knew I was in trouble when Seahorse noticed I asked where Wendell Mullaney is . . . good grief, I really need to get a grip.  :bounce:

There are so many people and names . . .we need a spread sheet, but I doubt if there's one big enough.  just nuts.

Good evening Monkey's,

TCUmom,

You are keeping us updated on DC’s ( FB page) Thank-you. 
DC sounds yucky. He shot his dog.  Good grief. 

I keep trying to think who is “Uncle Dean” besides, George.

I did look-up on Intelius and a Dean Cass, does exist, he could
Be great –grandpa?

After the services tomorrow, maybe Dan will clear up a few things
Like the whole family tree.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 06:52:19 PM
Some of these family trees need to be thinned out and trimmed.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 06:58:18 PM
http://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&rid=2642650

Dean G. Cass



http://pipl.com/search/?FirstName=dean&LastName=cass&City=colchester&State=NH&Country=US&CategoryID=2&Interface=1


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 06:58:45 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 07:04:12 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php
Different view of vigil


(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/Pic2.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 07:06:00 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game
oh my .


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 07:08:40 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game

Is everyone related to everyone in these towns?  Is everyone either a Cass, Noyes, Mullaney or Laro? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 07:10:14 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game
oh my .


Beginning to feel like Alice through the looking glass.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 07:26:26 PM

Is everyone related to everyone in these towns?  Is everyone either a Cass, Noyes, Mullaney or Laro? 

Old tv show ~ The Bob Newhart Show ~ I'm Darrell, this is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Darrell.   

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 07:28:28 PM
peekyou.com

Tyler Noyes

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/tyler.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 07:32:09 PM

Is everyone related to everyone in these towns?  Is everyone either a Cass, Noyes, Mullaney or Laro? 

Old tv show ~ The Bob Newhart Show ~ I'm Darrell, this is my brother Darrell, and my other brother Darrell.   

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyRoll::
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 07:44:31 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game
oh my .


Beginning to feel like Alice through the looking glass.  ::MonkeyEek::

I keep thinking about the mountain people in the movie Deliverance.  Just out of curiosity I googled something like the History of New Hampshire and came up with a long and boring document.  But darned if I didn't find a Sylvanus Noyes under INVOICE OF 1816 - RESIDENcE OF TAX PAYERS.  So they've been there a long, long time. 

http://www.nh.searchroots.com/documents/coos-history/History_Colebrook_NH.txt

That's about as far as I'm going for the sake of my sanity, lol.




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 07:54:43 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php
Different view of vigil


(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/Pic2.jpg)

The girl with the galsses crying beside Mom..I think that is Kayla..and the two women to the right of Mom..I think they are Louisa's (Mom) sister and her daughter that lived in the same building.  I think the red haired one is her sister..although no oone in the news seems to have sorted that out yet...which is amazing because there have been lots of towns people giving interviews ..why didn't the reporters ask who is this person..who is that person/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 07:56:49 PM
Ooops..also wanted to say the woman directly to her right I think is her boss at the consignment shop.

And okay I could be all wrong about this.but just from when they have been photographed and where..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 07:59:16 PM

I keep thinking about the mountain people in the movie Deliverance.  Just out of curiosity I googled something like the History of New Hampshire and came up with a long and boring document.  But darned if I didn't find a Sylvanus Noyes under INVOICE OF 1816 - RESIDENcE OF TAX PAYERS.  So they've been there a long, long time. 

http://www.nh.searchroots.com/documents/coos-history/History_Colebrook_NH.txt

That's about as far as I'm going for the sake of my sanity, lol.


I just hope that family tree does have a few branches instead of just a trunk.  yikes. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:02:49 PM
Ooops..also wanted to say the woman directly to her right I think is her boss at the consignment shop.

And okay I could be all wrong about this.but just from when they have been photographed and where..
That looks right to me . 
If y'all have been on the Kyron thread, that woman we've seen hovering around Louisia, with the reddish blonde hair . . . oh my gosh, she reminds me of ..............Terri Horman.   She's in this pic kind of in back of the consignment store owner who is kneeling.  My Lord, what a run-on sentence. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 08:02:59 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php
Different view of vigil


(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/Pic2.jpg)

The girl with the galsses crying beside Mom..I think that is Kayla..and the two women to the right of Mom..I think they are Louisa's (Mom) sister and her daughter that lived in the same building.  I think the red haired one is her sister..although no oone in the news seems to have sorted that out yet...which is amazing because there have been lots of towns people giving interviews ..why didn't the reporters ask who is this person..who is that person/

Okay..and why am I thinking that the comforter on Mom's legs is the one that was found with Celina's pillow on the couch in the morning on 7/26?  And if so..why does Mom have it and not LE?  This is just turning into a very bad tv plot..I mean they are intertwined..that isn't bad in itself..yet they don't seem to know what the others are doing..yet they know their history with LE..just mind numbing..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 08:06:48 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game

Is everyone related to everyone in these towns?  Is everyone either a Cass, Noyes, Mullaney or Laro? 

I don't know if this helps or hinders...but...when I was trying to research these families, I started with the Noyes surname just bc of the rso fam members plus Wendell's past. I was honestly joking when I asked if a huge brick wall was built around their area bc there's sooo MANY of them. Well, I found that many many many years ago, the Noyes men believed in polygamy. There are famous Noyes men that have been documented as such.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 08:08:47 PM
Ooops..also wanted to say the woman directly to her right I think is her boss at the consignment shop.

And okay I could be all wrong about this.but just from when they have been photographed and where..
That looks right to me . 
If y'all have been on the Kyron thread, that woman we've seen hovering around Louisia, with the reddish blonde hair . . . oh my gosh, she reminds me of ..............Terri Horman.   She's in this pic kind of in back of the consignment store owner who is kneeling.  My Lord, what a run-on sentence. 

I agree about the Terri H look alike.

I think that is Mom's sister..and the dark haired woman is her daughter..remember she and her daughter live in the house too..I am thinking they rent their own rooms.  And the rooms were rented in the daughter's name..which made me think the sister has  a credit history problem or no where to go but her daughter's apratment..which happens to be in the same house her sister's apartment is in.  And that makes sense too..sister's wanting to be togather...family in the same place.  No matter what we think ..it does seem that the red haired lady I think is Louisa's sister and her boss kneeling ..have been there for her...not so much anyone else.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 08:09:16 PM
Ooops..also wanted to say the woman directly to her right I think is her boss at the consignment shop.

And okay I could be all wrong about this.but just from when they have been photographed and where..
That looks right to me . 
If y'all have been on the Kyron thread, that woman we've seen hovering around Louisia, with the reddish blonde hair . . . oh my gosh, she reminds me of ..............Terri Horman.   She's in this pic kind of in back of the consignment store owner who is kneeling.  My Lord, what a run-on sentence. 

Lol! She's not Terri Horman. The red head is the lady that was holding onto Louisa when Louisa had the blanket over her head coming out of her house (in the beginning).


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:13:38 PM
::MonkeyDance::
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game

Is everyone related to everyone in these towns?  Is everyone either a Cass, Noyes, Mullaney or Laro? 

I don't know if this helps or hinders...but...when I was trying to research these families, I started with the Noyes surname just bc of the rso fam members plus Wendell's past. I was honestly joking when I asked if a huge brick wall was built around their area bc there's sooo MANY of them. Well, I found that many many many years ago, the Noyes men believed in polygamy. There are famous Noyes men that have been documented as such.

Send those dudes down here to Texas ~ we'll take care of 'em a la Warren Jeffs!  yeehawwww!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:16:26 PM
Lol! She's not Terri Horman. The red head is the lady that was holding onto Louisa when Louisa had the blanket over her head coming out of her house (in the beginning).
Oh hahahah ~ Thank goodness I *did* know she's not Terri (we don't need two of those creeps), but she reminds me of her...... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yep, that's when I first noticed the resemblance (to me), as she was gingerly helping Louisia down the steps huddled under the blanket, hiding.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 08:20:15 PM
Ooops..also wanted to say the woman directly to her right I think is her boss at the consignment shop.

And okay I could be all wrong about this.but just from when they have been photographed and where..
That looks right to me . 
If y'all have been on the Kyron thread, that woman we've seen hovering around Louisia, with the reddish blonde hair . . . oh my gosh, she reminds me of ..............Terri Horman.   She's in this pic kind of in back of the consignment store owner who is kneeling.  My Lord, what a run-on sentence. 

I agree about the Terri H look alike.

I think that is Mom's sister..and the dark haired woman is her daughter..remember she and her daughter live in the house too..I am thinking they rent their own rooms.  And the rooms were rented in the daughter's name..which made me think the sister has  a credit history problem or no where to go but her daughter's apratment..which happens to be in the same house her sister's apartment is in.  And that makes sense too..sister's wanting to be togather...family in the same place.  No matter what we think ..it does seem that the red haired lady I think is Louisa's sister and her boss kneeling ..have been there for her...not so much anyone else.

Okay I want to amend that to say I also feel that ADam and adam's son Adam have been there..and Adam the son seems to be very close to that side of his family..wouldn't they be step sister's to him..or is he a full brother..meaning Louisa is his Mom also?


LOL..I wish these people would have all gotten married to their baby daddy/babymomma..even for a nanosecond so we could figure out this younger generation in who is who.  Kayla has the baby daddy name..Celina did not..not that it matters for us so much..but maybe it did for the kids in school and around town..I think it is unusual for sisters from the same father, although never married to their mother, to not have the same last name....okay I am stopping because I don't want to hurt feelings or sound preachy. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 08:20:29 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php
Different view of vigil


(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/Pic2.jpg)

The girl with the galsses crying beside Mom..I think that is Kayla..and the two women to the right of Mom..I think they are Louisa's (Mom) sister and her daughter that lived in the same building.  I think the red haired one is her sister..although no oone in the news seems to have sorted that out yet...which is amazing because there have been lots of towns people giving interviews ..why didn't the reporters ask who is this person..who is that person/

Okay..and why am I thinking that the comforter on Mom's legs is the one that was found with Celina's pillow on the couch in the morning on 7/26?  And if so..why does Mom have it and not LE?  This is just turning into a very bad tv plot..I mean they are intertwined..that isn't bad in itself..yet they don't seem to know what the others are doing..yet they know their history with LE..just mind numbing..

It's crazy Gypsy DD.  And why does mom Louisia need a blanket over her in July?  There nothing about this case that isn't goofy to me.  I just don't understand these people.  What I also find puzzling is the lack of leaks.  Let's face it, no matter what the case the reporters always have someone who leaks information.  Whether it's right or wrong to do so, it always happens.  This is a pretty national case yet we hear nothing, no one seems to have any information, no matter how trivial, such as relatives.  Don't they believe is at least stating who is in a specific picture?  It's not even known what mental hospital Wendell checked himself into which is just ridiculous.  As far as reporting there has been next to nothing.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:24:13 PM
peekyou.com

Tyler Noyes

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/tyler.jpg)
Do y'all think this is the same guy on the FB?  I don't know .

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1263560033


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 08:28:16 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php
Different view of vigil


(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/Pic2.jpg)

The girl with the galsses crying beside Mom..I think that is Kayla..and the two women to the right of Mom..I think they are Louisa's (Mom) sister and her daughter that lived in the same building.  I think the red haired one is her sister..although no oone in the news seems to have sorted that out yet...which is amazing because there have been lots of towns people giving interviews ..why didn't the reporters ask who is this person..who is that person/

Okay..and why am I thinking that the comforter on Mom's legs is the one that was found with Celina's pillow on the couch in the morning on 7/26?  And if so..why does Mom have it and not LE?  This is just turning into a very bad tv plot..I mean they are intertwined..that isn't bad in itself..yet they don't seem to know what the others are doing..yet they know their history with LE..just mind numbing..

It's crazy Gypsy DD.  And why does mom Louisia need a blanket over her in July?  There nothing about this case that isn't goofy to me.  I just don't understand these people.  What I also find puzzling is the lack of leaks.  Let's face it, no matter what the case the reporters always have someone who leaks information.  Whether it's right or wrong to do so, it always happens.  This is a pretty national case yet we hear nothing, no one seems to have any information, no matter how trivial, such as relatives.  Don't they believe is at least stating who is in a specific picture?  It's not even known what mental hospital Wendell checked himself into which is just ridiculous.  As far as reporting there has been next to nothing.


I did check the weather in the early part of the case..and in the evenings it is usually in the 60's..so very nice sleeping weather.  I sort of looked at the blanket as a security object to cover Mom with..I do notice all the woman are in jeans and long pants and sweatshirts..so maybe with the medication and not moving ..sitting in a wheelchair ..her Mom got chilled. I am saying medication because the day Celina went missing 7/26 Mom needed to be rushed to the hospital due to stress/anxiety.  She was released later that day.  I am assuming they put her on medication..and would have kept her on medication throughout this whole tradegy.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
Ooops..also wanted to say the woman directly to her right I think is her boss at the consignment shop.

And okay I could be all wrong about this.but just from when they have been photographed and where..
That looks right to me . 
If y'all have been on the Kyron thread, that woman we've seen hovering around Louisia, with the reddish blonde hair . . . oh my gosh, she reminds me of ..............Terri Horman.   She's in this pic kind of in back of the consignment store owner who is kneeling.  My Lord, what a run-on sentence. 

I agree about the Terri H look alike.

I think that is Mom's sister..and the dark haired woman is her daughter..remember she and her daughter live in the house too..I am thinking they rent their own rooms.  And the rooms were rented in the daughter's name..which made me think the sister has  a credit history problem or no where to go but her daughter's apratment..which happens to be in the same house her sister's apartment is in.  And that makes sense too..sister's wanting to be togather...family in the same place.  No matter what we think ..it does seem that the red haired lady I think is Louisa's sister and her boss kneeling ..have been there for her...not so much anyone else.

Okay I want to amend that to say I also feel that ADam and adam's son Adam have been there..and Adam the son seems to be very close to that side of his family..wouldn't they be step sister's to him..or is he a full brother..meaning Louisa is his Mom also?


LOL..I wish these people would have all gotten married to their baby daddy/babymomma..even for a nanosecond so we could figure out this younger generation in who is who.  Kayla has the baby daddy name..Celina did not..not that it matters for us so much..but maybe it did for the kids in school and around town..I think it is unusual for sisters from the same father, although never married to their mother, to not have the same last name....okay I am stopping because I don't want to hurt feelings or sound preachy. 

I think both Kayla and Celina are Leros.  Adam is too so he is their half brother.  Adam Sr. said in an interview that they are both his girls but he and Louisia never married and he left the family home when Celina was three months old.  I have no clue who Adam, Jr.'s mother might be.  Even though it's been stated that Kevin Mullaney is the son  of a former boyfriend of Louisia's, I still believe he is her child.  He and Celina look too much alike.  Notice even the shape of their mouths on that picture.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:29:27 PM

Okay I want to amend that to say I also feel that ADam and adam's son Adam have been there..and Adam the son seems to be very close to that side of his family..wouldn't they be step sister's to him..or is he a full brother..meaning Louisa is his Mom also?


LOL..I wish these people would have all gotten married to their baby daddy/babymomma..even for a nanosecond so we could figure out this younger generation in who is who.  Kayla has the baby daddy name..Celina did not..not that it matters for us so much..but maybe it did for the kids in school and around town..I think it is unusual for sisters from the same father, although never married to their mother, to not have the same last name....okay I am stopping because I don't want to hurt feelings or sound preachy. 

Heck, I think this may be how many around there live . . . not being condescending or holier-than-thou, I think it's just their way.
I'm saying this from looking at their FB pages, so that's not exactly a reliable way to come to that conclusion.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree that Adam Cass' son, and parents seem to have been there throughout . . . Kayla seems to resemble Adam, Jr. in coloring.

I'm still wondering about Wendell Mullaney and where he's lurking.  Titch ~ I got the name right this time!  teehee.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 08:30:55 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game
oh my .


Beginning to feel like Alice through the looking glass.  ::MonkeyEek::


Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said.

Does anybody think this is hinky.. Are family usually allowed to assist in an investigation especially when not requested by LE.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 08:32:18 PM

Okay I want to amend that to say I also feel that ADam and adam's son Adam have been there..and Adam the son seems to be very close to that side of his family..wouldn't they be step sister's to him..or is he a full brother..meaning Louisa is his Mom also?


LOL..I wish these people would have all gotten married to their baby daddy/babymomma..even for a nanosecond so we could figure out this younger generation in who is who.  Kayla has the baby daddy name..Celina did not..not that it matters for us so much..but maybe it did for the kids in school and around town..I think it is unusual for sisters from the same father, although never married to their mother, to not have the same last name....okay I am stopping because I don't want to hurt feelings or sound preachy. 

Heck, I think this may be how many around there live . . . not being condescending or holier-than-thou, I think it's just their way.
I'm saying this from looking at their FB pages, so that's not exactly a reliable way to come to that conclusion.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree that Adam Cass' son, and parents seem to have been there throughout . . . Kayla seems to resemble Adam, Jr. in coloring.

I'm still wondering about Wendell Mullaney and where he's lurking.  Titch ~ I got the name right this time!  teehee.

LOL// TCUMOM..I think it is Wendall Noyes and Kevin Mullaney. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 07, 2011, 08:32:42 PM
Adam was introduced by his father as Celina's brother and in the obit he is also listed as her brother.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:34:00 PM

Okay I want to amend that to say I also feel that ADam and adam's son Adam have been there..and Adam the son seems to be very close to that side of his family..wouldn't they be step sister's to him..or is he a full brother..meaning Louisa is his Mom also?


LOL..I wish these people would have all gotten married to their baby daddy/babymomma..even for a nanosecond so we could figure out this younger generation in who is who.  Kayla has the baby daddy name..Celina did not..not that it matters for us so much..but maybe it did for the kids in school and around town..I think it is unusual for sisters from the same father, although never married to their mother, to not have the same last name....okay I am stopping because I don't want to hurt feelings or sound preachy. 

Heck, I think this may be how many around there live . . . not being condescending or holier-than-thou, I think it's just their way.
I'm saying this from looking at their FB pages, so that's not exactly a reliable way to come to that conclusion.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree that Adam Cass' son, and parents seem to have been there throughout . . . Kayla seems to resemble Adam, Jr. in coloring.

I'm still wondering about Wendell Mullaney and where he's lurking.  Titch ~ I got the name right this time!  teehee.

OMG ~ I am still saying it wrong . . . good gosh . . . . I have cracked.

WHERE IS KEVIN MULLANEY ?  Yes, I'm shouting so maybe i'll remember.  gosh.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:35:36 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game
oh my .


Beginning to feel like Alice through the looking glass.  ::MonkeyEek::


Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said.

Does anybody think this is hinky.. Are family usually allowed to assist in an investigation especially when not requested by LE.
Yes, I think it's verrry hinky, creepy, weird, wrong.  Of course, I think they're all so intertwined, I don't know if you could find an impartial party.  Exaggerating, but not by much.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:37:01 PM

LOL// TCUMOM..I think it is Wendall Noyes and Kevin Mullaney. 

Gypsy ~  ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: That's how I feel.  I'm trying to come up with an excuse for doing this twice now! 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game
oh my .


Beginning to feel like Alice through the looking glass.  ::MonkeyEek::


Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said.

Does anybody think this is hinky.. Are family usually allowed to assist in an investigation especially when not requested by LE.

Are Steve and Louisa cousins?  Is Jeff Noyes a cousin of Wendall?  If so..do they really know each other..meaning you can be related but not interact.  On the other hand ..in a situation like this it might take family to get to the bottom of what exactly went on the evening of 7/25 into the morning of 7/26.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 08:44:50 PM
This is the latest comment posted under the linked article.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&format=comments&cnum=1&sort=newest

I was talking to someone who knows some people up there and there is suspicion that the Mullaney kid may be the one and not the stepfather. He may have tricked her into going out for pizza and used the stepfather's truck. Blame the mother for letting this piece of garbage into their house. But cut her a break on this parade thing. I'm sure the surviving daughter begged her to go and you could see on the news that she was crying the whole time.

*************************************************

hmmmmmm.  could be, but why is Wendell acting like ?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 08:45:20 PM

LOL// TCUMOM..I think it is Wendall Noyes and Kevin Mullaney. 

Gypsy ~  ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: That's how I feel.  I'm trying to come up with an excuse for doing this twice now! 

Omg I am literally...LITERALLY...laughing out loud right now!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 09:08:26 PM
peekyou.com

Tyler Noyes

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/tyler.jpg)
Do y'all think this is the same guy on the FB?  I don't know .

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1263560033

It is the same guy but the photo is not him.  I enlarged and it doesn't even slightly resemble what he looks like now.   It is the relative to Wendell however.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 09:12:38 PM

Okay I want to amend that to say I also feel that ADam and adam's son Adam have been there..and Adam the son seems to be very close to that side of his family..wouldn't they be step sister's to him..or is he a full brother..meaning Louisa is his Mom also?


LOL..I wish these people would have all gotten married to their baby daddy/babymomma..even for a nanosecond so we could figure out this younger generation in who is who.  Kayla has the baby daddy name..Celina did not..not that it matters for us so much..but maybe it did for the kids in school and around town..I think it is unusual for sisters from the same father, although never married to their mother, to not have the same last name....okay I am stopping because I don't want to hurt feelings or sound preachy. 

Heck, I think this may be how many around there live . . . not being condescending or holier-than-thou, I think it's just their way.





I'm saying this from looking at their FB pages, so that's not exactly a reliable way to come to that conclusion.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree that Adam Cass' son, and parents seem to have been there throughout . . . Kayla seems to resemble Adam, Jr. in coloring.

I'm still wondering about Wendell Mullaney and where he's lurking.  Titch ~ I got the name right this time!  teehee.

OMG ~ I am still saying it wrong . . . good gosh . . . . I have cracked.

WHERE IS KEVIN MULLANEY ?  Yes, I'm shouting so maybe i'll remember.  gosh.
TCUmom,

Have you tried his Kevin Mullaney’s, FB page? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 09:22:45 PM
peekyou.com

Tyler Noyes

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/tyler.jpg)
Do y'all think this is the same guy on the FB?  I don't know .

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1263560033
Klaas or 4donks ~ could one of y'all please give me a link to this new pic of Tyler Noyes ?   Thanks.

It is the same guy but the photo is not him.  I enlarged and it doesn't even slightly resemble what he looks like now.   It is the relative to Wendell however.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 09:24:14 PM
Klaas ~ messed up the quote box, and I had been doing so well.  sigh. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2011, 09:24:20 PM
So much we don't know..like when did they start renting that apartment in that house..and when did Kevin move in there..and then when did Kevin take over their bedroom  and why did he take over their bedroom..and has Wendall always lived with them since they lived there..prior to the marriage last year?  What did the girls think of Wendall..what did they think of Kevin?  Could have this been someone that knew that Celina would be on the couch that night..did they lock their doors?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 09:29:11 PM
This is the latest comment posted under the linked article.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1356970&format=comments&cnum=1&sort=newest

I was talking to someone who knows some people up there and there is suspicion that the Mullaney kid may be the one and not the stepfather. He may have tricked her into going out for pizza and used the stepfather's truck. Blame the mother for letting this piece of garbage into their house. But cut her a break on this parade thing. I'm sure the surviving daughter begged her to go and you could see on the news that she was crying the whole time.

*************************************************

hmmmmmm.  could be, but why is Wendell acting like ?


Call me crazy but I think this could be true... At first I didn't think so, but I've since changed my mind. I'm also not 100% sold that Wendell was the one on his fb profile all the time. Old Wendell sure is hinky but it was rumored right in the beginning that Kevin was out driving around really late at night & can't be accounted for. Also, remember that the red truck was taken on the 27th. Celina was discovered missing morning of the 27th. The le questioned everybody but Kevin was questioned multiple times. I think that red truck was the vehicle Kevin drove, wasn't it? If so, I think the ground search for Celina was called of on the 27th and they started focussing on the river & pond plus the computer. I find it hinky le searched/impounded the red truck & called off the ground search in the same day. Think about it...Celina was 11 & the ground search was called off after just a little over 24 hours? Why? There were upwards of 100 le, fbi, fish & game, etc to help. I think it's bc they found something in that red truck then put more pressure on Kevin. Right after the truck was taken the le concentrated on searching the river & that pond. I think it's bc of the tips & rumors regarding Kevin vs his answers being hinky.

Were the wet clothes found in the red truck or silver truck? There was rumor that specks of blood were found in the red truck but that maybe Wendell's truck was used for transport. There was also rumor that heavy stones or cinder blocks were used to weigh her down, and this was before they found her body...it was on a Help Find Celina fb wall.

One of the reasons I thought Kevin was younger is bc another rumor was that he had a friend he was handing out with that night of the 25th. I thought it was somebody from Canaan. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 09:32:42 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game
oh my .

Beginning to feel like Alice through the looking glass.  ::MonkeyEek::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said.

Does anybody think this is hinky.. Are family usually allowed to assist in an investigation especially when not requested by LE.

Are Steve and Louisa cousins?  Is Jeff Noyes a cousin of Wendall?  If so..do they really know each other..meaning you can be related but not interact.  On the other hand ..in a situation like this it might take family to get to the bottom of what exactly went on the evening of 7/25 into the morning of 7/26.

Yes, Steve & Louisa are cousins, but I have no idea if they have a close relationship.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
Klaas ~ messed up the quote box, and I had been doing so well.  sigh. 

Tyler Noyes and his girlfriend Ashlynn Parkhurst

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6029/6020405014_74795b8a29_o.jpg)

Ashlynn's facebook

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725042769 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725042769)

Tyler's facebook

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1263560033 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1263560033)

Tyler Noyes facebook friends who's last name is also Noyes (note Wendell)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6137/6020414334_4a30e85a86_b.jpg)





Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 09:43:51 PM

Call me crazy but I think this could be true... At first I didn't think so, but I've since changed my mind. I'm also not 100% sold that Wendell was the one on his fb profile all the time. Old Wendell sure is hinky but it was rumored right in the beginning that Kevin was out driving around really late at night & can't be accounted for. Also, remember that the red truck was taken on the 27th. Celina was discovered missing morning of the 27th. The le questioned everybody but Kevin was questioned multiple times. I think that red truck was the vehicle Kevin drove, wasn't it? If so, I think the ground search for Celina was called of on the 27th and they started focussing on the river & pond plus the computer. I find it hinky le searched/impounded the red truck & called off the ground search in the same day. Think about it...Celina was 11 & the ground search was called off after just a little over 24 hours? Why? There were upwards of 100 le, fbi, fish & game, etc to help. I think it's bc they found something in that red truck then put more pressure on Kevin. Right after the truck was taken the le concentrated on searching the river & that pond. I think it's bc of the tips & rumors regarding Kevin vs his answers being hinky.

Were the wet clothes found in the red truck or silver truck? There was rumor that specks of blood were found in the red truck but that maybe Wendell's truck was used for transport. There was also rumor that heavy stones or cinder blocks were used to weigh her down, and this was before they found her body...it was on a Help Find Celina fb wall.

One of the reasons I thought Kevin was younger is bc another rumor was that he had a friend he was handing out with that night of the 25th. I thought it was somebody from Canaan. 

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::
I have wondered about the wet clothes rumor, or is it for sure??
I missed the blood specks rumor. 

I think I'll check out a few FB comments.  Back in a minute.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 09:44:38 PM
Something else that bothers me a little... The medical examiner would know if Celina was raped by now. Why wouldn't that be revealed? If she were violated by an rso, their DNA would be in codis & they'd have had a match by now. Kevin's been in jail for an extended period of time for felonies, so his DNA would be in their system wouldn't it? So, if Celina were violated by somebody close to her, wouldn't they be in custody by now? Or do they have somebody but just not releasing that info in case more peeps are involved? At least Wendell's in a psych hosp. I wonder if he's under constant watch.

All I know is that Wendell appears to have some serious problems. If he was targeted to use as a scapegoat, then wow bc his life already seems mixed up. If he really is involved, then shame on the prior judge for not giving him jail time after he broke in his ex's home & threatened to throw her down the stairs...oh yeah, and he violated a protective order against him when he did that too! However, I feel sorry for Louisa, but she's the common denominator here. If the perp is either or both of these guys, it was Louisa's trusting & nonjudgemental heart that gave them a chance. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 09:48:16 PM
BUT, there is *still* something going on with Wendell Noyes (good gosh, I finally got it.) 
His actions are beyond strange. 
Maybe he helped Kevin Mullaney *after the fact.*  Could that be?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 09:49:30 PM

Call me crazy but I think this could be true... At first I didn't think so, but I've since changed my mind. I'm also not 100% sold that Wendell was the one on his fb profile all the time. Old Wendell sure is hinky but it was rumored right in the beginning that Kevin was out driving around really late at night & can't be accounted for. Also, remember that the red truck was taken on the 27th. Celina was discovered missing morning of the 26th. The le questioned everybody but Kevin was questioned multiple times. I think that red truck was the vehicle Kevin drove, wasn't it? If so, I think the ground search for Celina was called of on the 27th and they started focussing on the river & pond plus the computer. I find it hinky le searched/impounded the red truck & called off the ground search in the same day. Think about it...Celina was 11 & the ground search was called off after just a little over 24 hours? Why? There were upwards of 100 le, fbi, fish & game, etc to help. I think it's bc they found something in that red truck then put more pressure on Kevin. Right after the truck was taken the le concentrated on searching the river & that pond. I think it's bc of the tips & rumors regarding Kevin vs his answers being hinky.

Were the wet clothes found in the red truck or silver truck? There was rumor that specks of blood were found in the red truck but that maybe Wendell's truck was used for transport. There was also rumor that heavy stones or cinder blocks were used to weigh her down, and this was before they found her body...it was on a Help Find Celina fb wall.

One of the reasons I thought Kevin was younger is bc another rumor was that he had a friend he was handing out with that night of the 25th. I thought it was somebody from Canaan. 

 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::
I have wondered about the wet clothes rumor, or is it for sure??
I missed the blood specks rumor. 

I think I'll check out a few FB comments.  Back in a minute.

Self edit... I meant to say Celina was discovered missing morning of the 26th.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 09:59:33 PM
BUT, there is *still* something going on with Wendell Noyes (good gosh, I finally got it.) 
His actions are beyond strange. 
Maybe he helped Kevin Mullaney *after the fact.*  Could that be?

I wonder the same thing! That fb page had so many comments that were interesting. Some were deleted & I'm assuming it's bc le didn't want that info out...not sure but it was said. Somebody said Wendell was seen wading sheets or a blanket that morning, the rocks or cinder comment that Kevin may have taken them from his old job & thrown Celina in the river or else knew who did, that she was violated, that there was a plastic bag or garbage bag involved, and that somebody from Canaan was involved. It was rumored that Wendell & Louisa were polyed & passed but Kevin failed & was brought in & questioned more than once. Then I read that NOBODY was polyed so who knows what the truth is. All signs point to Wendell's involvement but what if he's actually being framed?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 07, 2011, 10:03:02 PM
I found George Cass phone directory from 1993-2002.  There was a George W. Cass, IDK we don't need him.
Does anyone have a Ancestry.com membership who would be willing to dig up George's information, we do not
publish personal information  BUT...I hope his wife grrr...would also be listed.  Thank-you.

 ::MonkeyShovel::

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=2000WP&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db&gsfn=george+D&gsln=cass&msrpn__ftp=Lancaster%2C+Coos%2C+New+Hampshire%2C+USA&msrpn=4890&msrpn_PInfo=8-%7C0%7C1652393%7C0%7C2%7C3242%7C32%7C0%7C734%7C4890%7C0%7C&uidh=000

P.S. IDK if he was married between 1993-2002  ::MonkeyEek::  I am hoping he was at one point for the wife's name. :)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:11:08 PM


Look at the date of the 27th. So keep in mind the red truck was taken on the 27th. Celina was discovered missing morning of the 26th but the 27th they're already focussed on the river & called off ground searches! They found something out from morning of 6/26 to afternoon of 6/27. They had boats & divers there.

http://www.wmur.com/r/28679347/detail.html

FBI Deploys Special Team In Search For Missing Girl

Police Investigate House Of Missing 11-Year-Old


POSTED: 8:19 am EDT July 27, 2011
UPDATED: 11:19 am EDT July 28, 2011

Snipped:
Nearly 48 hours after Celina's parents last saw their daughter, an air and ground search for the West Stewartstown girl ended earlier Wednesday.
 
By Wednesday evening, the Cass house was blocked off with police tape, and investigators were inside the home. Moments before that happened, two people under a blanket were led by friends out of the home and taken to a nearby police command center.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 07, 2011, 10:11:45 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game

How are these guys related?  Would the involvement of these two chiefs of police not be considered a conflict of interest within the investigation?

Janet



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:12:29 PM
I found George Cass phone directory from 1993-2002.  There was a George W. Cass, IDK we don't need him.
Does anyone have a Ancestry.com membership who would be willing to dig up George's information, we do not
publish personal information  BUT...I hope his wife grrr...would also be listed.  Thank-you.

 ::MonkeyShovel::

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=2000WP&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db&gsfn=george+D&gsln=cass&msrpn__ftp=Lancaster%2C+Coos%2C+New+Hampshire%2C+USA&msrpn=4890&msrpn_PInfo=8-%7C0%7C1652393%7C0%7C2%7C3242%7C32%7C0%7C734%7C4890%7C0%7C&uidh=000

P.S. IDK if he was married between 1993-2002  ::MonkeyEek::  I am hoping he was at one point for the wife's name. :)

I don't have a membership there. Sorry Seahorse.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 10:15:40 PM
I found George Cass phone directory from 1993-2002.  There was a George W. Cass, IDK we don't need him.
Does anyone have a Ancestry.com membership who would be willing to dig up George's information, we do not
publish personal information  BUT...I hope his wife grrr...would also be listed.  Thank-you.

 ::MonkeyShovel::

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=2000WP&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db&gsfn=george+D&gsln=cass&msrpn__ftp=Lancaster%2C+Coos%2C+New+Hampshire%2C+USA&msrpn=4890&msrpn_PInfo=8-%7C0%7C1652393%7C0%7C2%7C3242%7C32%7C0%7C734%7C4890%7C0%7C&uidh=000

P.S. IDK if he was married between 1993-2002  ::MonkeyEek::  I am hoping he was at one point for the wife's name. :)

I do have a membership ~ I knew genealogy research would come in handy someday.  ha.
I've searched George Cass in *so* many ways . . . nothing.  zip. 
I've tried different states, you name it.  No marriages.  nothing.
If you think of anything, tell me and I'll try it, if I haven't already.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:28:09 PM
I find the time frame from the 17th up til her disappearance as odd that le would ask for those specific days. Also, the info of that post I can verify by saying I saw it with my own eyes. That 'Katelyn Murpy' has been removed from his friends. Once you delete (or block) a friend on fb, your comments to them on their wall are deleted also.

http://www.facebook.com/help.find.celina?sk=wall

Quote:
Help Find Celina Cass - Missing from Stewartstown, New Hampshire
URGENT ANNOUNCEMENT: Anyone with information about Celina Cass's activities from July 17 up until her disappearance is urged to immediately contact New Hampshire State Police Trooper Daniel Quartuli @ 603-846-3333.
July 30 at 9:32am
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Help Find Celina Cass - Missing from Stewartstown, New Hampshire Did you see Celina Cass with anyone during the 7 days prior to her disappearance? Did you hear anything you may have considered gossip at the time? Did you see a stranger in town behaving suspiciously? Did Celina tell you about a new friend she met online? Was Celina behaving differently than normal prior to her disappearance? Did she complain to you about anyone bothering her?
July 30 at 9:36am ·  1 person

Kathy Casale Sanzari did you look into the stepfather, his facebook leaves much to be desired
July 30 at 9:41am ·  2 people

Barbara Boudreau Turner The step-dads last post was deleted. Tues morn to Katelyn Murphy @9.11am "I live in Canaan Vermont".
July 30 at 10:38am

Help Find Celina Cass - Missing from Stewartstown, New Hampshire It sure was. I made a screen shot of it so I know it was there. I just looked at it and he posted that on July 26, 2011 at 9:11am as you claim. But that isn't the truth either. He lives in Stewartstown, New Hampshire!
July 30 at 10:51am

Lisa Foster i too seen it and it isnt there now. if you go to the persons wall he was talking with can you see it there?
July 30 at 12:31pm

Bobbie Wheeler I saw it as well on Tue and noticed last night it was gone, seems odd to me why would anyone delete the post done on the day your step daughter is called into the police as missing? You sure it was made to "Katelyn Murphy"? yea it is i just searched her and odd again she's been removed from his FB page?? and there is no comment on her page i just looked.
July 30 at 1:15pm ·  1 person

Help Find Celina Cass - Missing from Stewartstown, New Hampshire Very odd indeed. You'd think he would close up his profile.
July 30 at 2:42pm

Lisa Foster has his FB page been verified that it is realy him? i am just wondering. hes a sick man for sure!
July 30 at 3:00pm ·  1 person

Barbara Boudreau Turner Im assuming the authorities have his comp. as well as Celinas. You can delete but still remains on the hard drive. Odd, very odd behavior of the step-dad.
July 30 at 4:29pm ·  1 person

Help Find Celina Cass - Missing from Stewartstown, New Hampshire I'm suspecting the authorities will find some illegal files on his computer.
July 30 at 10:47pm

Bobbie Wheeler oh i bet so as well, i wish i was closer to home i want to help out so much i am on Monday going to talk to a few reporters i work for 13 news papers all across the state of Colorado see if i can get them to follow this in our papers as well. And as well am going to be printing out flyers to hang at local businesses in my area as well as in local airports.
July 30 at 10:49pm ·  3 people


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 10:56:04 PM
Re my bold...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-07-27-missing-new-hampshire-girl_n.htm?csp=34news

FBI abduction team searches for missing N.H. girl
Updated 7/28/2011 7:29 PM


Snipped:
At midday Wednesday, about a mile north of town, five Fish and Game Department officers searched the woods behind an apartment. They carried bags and boxes, but it was unclear if they collected anything.
Police descended on a parked pickup truck across the street from the girl's home, and officers wearing gloves examined it.

Snipped:
Gralenski said Wednesday that a small boat with an officer and fishing guide was searching the river about a quarter-mile from her home. He said the river was lowered Tuesday to help with the search. The river runs between New Hampshire and Vermont, where state police also have helped with the search.
"It's not a deep river. You'd be hard-pressed to find 6 to 8 feet in most of it in that area," Gralenski said. "When we had it drawn down, it was exceptionally low."
That allowed the Border Patrol to search by helicopter and some officers to search by kayak before severe thunderstorms passed through Tuesday afternoon


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 07, 2011, 10:56:46 PM
I saw this on the Help Find Celina Cass page on Facebook this morning but didn't post it because I think if all of this was true, it would have been leaked long before now.  Then again, it could be true.  I don't know what to think in this case anymore other than I'm very convinced that either Wendell or Kevin killed Celina.

Annmarie Violandi
Wendell and Kevin(20 year old son of mother's ex-boyfriend) know exactly what happened. I would love to know what time the mother went to work-because if it was after 7am.....she knows.
Celina was found wrapped in a blanket and weighted down with chains and cinderblocks. Kevin stole them from his boss or ex boss. Kevin was seen driving around town between 11pm-2:30am and gave no alibi when questioned by police. Wendell was seen @7am washing sheets. 2 hours b4 Celina was reported missing. Same sheets were found in a dumpster behind a restaraunt. Just waiting to see what the toxicology report shows- For little Celina's sake I hope they drugged her. All this time I thought it was Wendell alone--I never gave a second thought about Kevin Kevin has an unsavory record, jail time 2 pregnant girlfriends-he has also been seen stopping and talking to young girls (11-14) on multiple occasions. Rest in peace Celina......you are finally safe!!
Thursday at 11:59am


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 07, 2011, 10:58:06 PM
http://www.colbsent.com/stories.php

 ::snipping2::

Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said. He described his involvement as "worker bee stuff," such as checking on registered sex offenders in the area and physically checking on "every camp and camper in Colebrook and Stewartstown."

"I tried to remain upbeat, but knew that as time went on, statistically things were not good," Chief Cass said. He called Monday night's news "very upsetting," but commended all authorities for "an unbelievable amount of resources brought to bear on this investigation."Searchers returned to the Back Pond area and also spent significant time on Kemp Hill and Canaan Hill. River levels on the Connecticut River were dropped by dam keeper Bob Ward, from 390 cubic feet per second down to a mere 85 cfs on two different days to allow for a better search, according to Major Kevin Jordan of N.H. Fish and Game
oh my .


Beginning to feel like Alice through the looking glass.  ::MonkeyEek::


Colebrook police chief Steve Cass confirmed yesterday that he and Canaan chief Jeff Noyes voluntarily assisted in the investigation. "Nobody asked, I just went," he said.

Does anybody think this is hinky.. Are family usually allowed to assist in an investigation especially when not requested by LE.

Hinky indeed!  Allowed to sniff around the case and poss. related to the sex offenders scares me even worse.  As I understand it LEO's don't have to be removed from a case involving their relatives but 99% of the time they are not on the case for the obvious reasons and don't mind being done so.  This man should have never been there esp. unofficially!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 07, 2011, 10:58:53 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 11:00:44 PM
I saw this on the Help Find Celina Cass page on Facebook this morning but didn't post it because I think if all of this was true, it would have been leaked long before now.  Then again, it could be true.  I don't know what to think in this case anymore other than I'm very convinced that either Wendell or Kevin killed Celina.

Annmarie Violandi
Wendell and Kevin(20 year old son of mother's ex-boyfriend) know exactly what happened. I would love to know what time the mother went to work-because if it was after 7am.....she knows.
Celina was found wrapped in a blanket and weighted down with chains and cinderblocks. Kevin stole them from his boss or ex boss. Kevin was seen driving around town between 11pm-2:30am and gave no alibi when questioned by police. Wendell was seen @7am washing sheets. 2 hours b4 Celina was reported missing. Same sheets were found in a dumpster behind a restaraunt. Just waiting to see what the toxicology report shows- For little Celina's sake I hope they drugged her. All this time I thought it was Wendell alone--I never gave a second thought about Kevin Kevin has an unsavory record, jail time 2 pregnant girlfriends-he has also been seen stopping and talking to young girls (11-14) on multiple occasions. Rest in peace Celina......you are finally safe!!
Thursday at 11:59am

I actual think there's some validity to it bc every single rumor that came out so far has turned out true...right down to le seizing the red truck and then taking Wendell's the other day. My gut is telling me that Louisa is innocent completely.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:01:21 PM
This is a good word to describe my state of mind ~ addled .  :gaah:

I wish we just had a sliver of info.

And, I still want to know where is KEVIN MULLANEY?

Titch, I asked that just for you!   ::MonkeyDance::

I am going to look at every single friend Kayla Laro and Kevin Mullaney have listed, and see if any of them have their FB walls public. 
Heck, I don't even have a FB, and will never get one after all this .


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 11:02:24 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?

Is Tyler friends with Kevin?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 11:04:50 PM
This is a good word to describe my state of mind ~ addled .  :gaah:

I wish we just had a sliver of info.

And, I still want to know where is KEVIN MULLANEY?

Titch, I asked that just for you!   ::MonkeyDance::

I am going to look at every single friend Kayla Laro and Kevin Mullaney have listed, and see if any of them have their FB walls public. 
Heck, I don't even have a FB, and will never get one after all this .
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 07, 2011, 11:07:15 PM
I saw this on the Help Find Celina Cass page on Facebook this morning but didn't post it because I think if all of this was true, it would have been leaked long before now.  Then again, it could be true.  I don't know what to think in this case anymore other than I'm very convinced that either Wendell or Kevin killed Celina.

Annmarie Violandi
Wendell and Kevin(20 year old son of mother's ex-boyfriend) know exactly what happened. I would love to know what time the mother went to work-because if it was after 7am.....she knows.
Celina was found wrapped in a blanket and weighted down with chains and cinderblocks. Kevin stole them from his boss or ex boss. Kevin was seen driving around town between 11pm-2:30am and gave no alibi when questioned by police. Wendell was seen @7am washing sheets. 2 hours b4 Celina was reported missing. Same sheets were found in a dumpster behind a restaraunt. Just waiting to see what the toxicology report shows- For little Celina's sake I hope they drugged her. All this time I thought it was Wendell alone--I never gave a second thought about Kevin Kevin has an unsavory record, jail time 2 pregnant girlfriends-he has also been seen stopping and talking to young girls (11-14) on multiple occasions. Rest in peace Celina......you are finally safe!!
Thursday at 11:59am

Thanks for the post Pattianne.  If this is true and she is posting under her real name then I give her props for having the balz to say it!  Those two aren't even in custody so I hope she is safe, even if just running off at the mouth.  I can see it being true but why would Mom turn her back to it?  I guess they could have something on her or the fam.  I keep thinking about the mention of the possibility of pill selling there, could be!  I do hope the poor little girl was unconscious at the time.  The poor thing might have even had a crush on one of the dweebs.  I'm only speculating, coming up with stuff out of the blue and haven't read this anywhere.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 07, 2011, 11:07:45 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?

Is Tyler friends with Kevin?

He sure is!  I just looked.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 11:08:03 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?

Is Tyler friends with Kevin?

Also, it was posted on the 26th at 9:11am, not the 27th.

Something's off.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:13:09 PM
I saw this on the Help Find Celina Cass page on Facebook this morning but didn't post it because I think if all of this was true, it would have been leaked long before now.  Then again, it could be true.  I don't know what to think in this case anymore other than I'm very convinced that either Wendell or Kevin killed Celina.

Annmarie Violandi
Wendell and Kevin(20 year old son of mother's ex-boyfriend) know exactly what happened. I would love to know what time the mother went to work-because if it was after 7am.....she knows.
Celina was found wrapped in a blanket and weighted down with chains and cinderblocks. Kevin stole them from his boss or ex boss. Kevin was seen driving around town between 11pm-2:30am and gave no alibi when questioned by police. Wendell was seen @7am washing sheets. 2 hours b4 Celina was reported missing. Same sheets were found in a dumpster behind a restaraunt. Just waiting to see what the toxicology report shows- For little Celina's sake I hope they drugged her. All this time I thought it was Wendell alone--I never gave a second thought about Kevin Kevin has an unsavory record, jail time 2 pregnant girlfriends-he has also been seen stopping and talking to young girls (11-14) on multiple occasions. Rest in peace Celina......you are finally safe!!
Thursday at 11:59am

I actual think there's some validity to it bc every single rumor that came out so far has turned out true...right down to le seizing the red truck and then taking Wendell's the other day. My gut is telling me that Louisa is innocent completely.
::rhino:: ::rhino::
But, I still think Louisia knows/suspects they are the killers, whether one or both, whether one just *helped* the other with disposal (what an awful word to use), or whether it was one, totally alone.

What do y'all think about her at least knowing something, although she may not be able to even process the knowledge.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 07, 2011, 11:16:31 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?

Is Tyler friends with Kevin?

One of the posts that was removed was from the 26th or 27th was about screwing the rest of your life up (in other words tho) because a person named Gabe Le asked if he was referring to Wendell murdering Celina (he was goading Tyler) and Tyler responded that GabeLe didn't know what he was talking about that Wendell didn't do it and he was sure of that fact.  GabeLe posted this on August 2nd but the original post from Tyler was the 26th or 27th. GabeLe's profile is totally hidden.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 11:19:46 PM
I saw this on the Help Find Celina Cass page on Facebook this morning but didn't post it because I think if all of this was true, it would have been leaked long before now.  Then again, it could be true.  I don't know what to think in this case anymore other than I'm very convinced that either Wendell or Kevin killed Celina.

Annmarie Violandi
Wendell and Kevin(20 year old son of mother's ex-boyfriend) know exactly what happened. I would love to know what time the mother went to work-because if it was after 7am.....she knows.
Celina was found wrapped in a blanket and weighted down with chains and cinderblocks. Kevin stole them from his boss or ex boss. Kevin was seen driving around town between 11pm-2:30am and gave no alibi when questioned by police. Wendell was seen @7am washing sheets. 2 hours b4 Celina was reported missing. Same sheets were found in a dumpster behind a restaraunt. Just waiting to see what the toxicology report shows- For little Celina's sake I hope they drugged her. All this time I thought it was Wendell alone--I never gave a second thought about Kevin Kevin has an unsavory record, jail time 2 pregnant girlfriends-he has also been seen stopping and talking to young girls (11-14) on multiple occasions. Rest in peace Celina......you are finally safe!!
Thursday at 11:59am

I actual think there's some validity to it bc every single rumor that came out so far has turned out true...right down to le seizing the red truck and then taking Wendell's the other day. My gut is telling me that Louisa is innocent completely.
::rhino:: ::rhino::
But, I still think Louisia knows/suspects they are the killers, whether one or both, whether one just *helped* the other with disposal (what an awful word to use), or whether it was one, totally alone.

What do y'all think about her at least knowing something, although she may not be able to even process the knowledge.


Oh I def agree with you. Remember the last time Wendell checked into that motel in Canaan VT? Well he checked in with his sister, then his sister took the room key to the front desk & said Wendell wouldn't be back. That's when he checked into that other hospital, where he still is now I believe. If Louisa didn't suspect something, she'd be by his side when she could. Plus we see pics of Kayla with Louisa, as well as her family & Adam's family, but no mention of Kevin being around her lately. So, where's Kevin? The police say they haven't arrested anyone yet. Could Kevin be in custody?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 11:22:16 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?

Is Tyler friends with Kevin?

One of the posts that was removed was from the 26th or 27th was about screwing the rest of your life up (in other words tho) because a person named Gabe Le asked if he was referring to Wendell murdering Celina (he was goading Tyler) and Tyler responded that GabeLe didn't know what he was talking about that Wendell didn't do it and he was sure of that fact.  GabeLe posted this on August 2nd but the original post from Tyler was the 26th or 27th. GabeLe's profile is totally hidden.

Hmmm.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:24:59 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?

Is Tyler friends with Kevin?

oh, yes.  what would we expect.  birds of a feather.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:28:42 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?

Is Tyler friends with Kevin?

One of the posts that was removed was from the 26th or 27th was about screwing the rest of your life up (in other words tho) because a person named Gabe Le asked if he was referring to Wendell murdering Celina (he was goading Tyler) and Tyler responded that GabeLe didn't know what he was talking about that Wendell didn't do it and he was sure of that fact.  GabeLe posted this on August 2nd but the original post from Tyler was the 26th or 27th. GabeLe's profile is totally hidden.
I remember those posts, and noticed they were removed .... Tyler sounded mad that Gabe was making comments.  It sounded to me as if Gabe was goading Tyler, trying to get him to talk about what he might know.  I wonder if Gabe Le is a real person.  sigh.  Guess I'll try and find out. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 07, 2011, 11:31:03 PM
Julie Woods is also listed at Tyler Noyles aunt.  It's so very strange...she has some posts about Celina and about going up to be with the family but the rest of her posts are soooo,  I don't even know how to say it....disconnected maybe? unconcerned?  I know if a family member of mine, esp a child was found murdered, I would be so consumed but for some reason most of these people aren't.  Her page is open as is Tylers, I'd post her link but I don't see Klaas here for fix it for me lol.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 07, 2011, 11:32:55 PM
There are also some posts removed from Tyler Noyes fb page from July 26 and 27th.

Is it possible that someone else got on Wendell's computer the morning of the 27th at 9:11 and made the post on Katelyn Murphy's wall that said "I live in Caanan Vermont"?  Someone...oh possibly like Tyler?

Is Tyler friends with Kevin?

One of the posts that was removed was from the 26th or 27th was about screwing the rest of your life up (in other words tho) because a person named Gabe Le asked if he was referring to Wendell murdering Celina (he was goading Tyler) and Tyler responded that GabeLe didn't know what he was talking about that Wendell didn't do it and he was sure of that fact.  GabeLe posted this on August 2nd but the original post from Tyler was the 26th or 27th. GabeLe's profile is totally hidden.
I remember those posts, and noticed they were removed .... Tyler sounded mad that Gabe was making comments.  It sounded to me as if Gabe was goading Tyler, trying to get him to talk about what he might know.  I wonder if Gabe Le is a real person.  sigh.  Guess I'll try and find out. 

Honestly when I read it for the first time on 8/2 I thought the LE was Law Enforcement. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:33:50 PM
Julie Woods is also listed at Tyler Noyles aunt.  It's so very strange...she has some posts about Celina and about going up to be with the family but the rest of her posts are soooo,  I don't even know how to say it....disconnected maybe? unconcerned?  I know if a family member of mine, esp a child was found murdered, I would be so consumed but for some reason most of these people aren't.  Her page is open as is Tylers, I'd post her link but I don't see Klaas here for fix it for me lol.

Julie Woods' FB . 
Just start and keep reading thru the comments.
If nothing else, it gives you a really good idea of life in that neck of the woods, so-to-speak.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 07, 2011, 11:34:37 PM
Julie Woods is also listed at Tyler Noyles aunt.  It's so very strange...she has some posts about Celina and about going up to be with the family but the rest of her posts are soooo,  I don't even know how to say it....disconnected maybe? unconcerned?  I know if a family member of mine, esp a child was found murdered, I would be so consumed but for some reason most of these people aren't.  Her page is open as is Tylers, I'd post her link but I don't see Klaas here for fix it for me lol.

Julie Woods' FB . 
Just start and keep reading thru the comments.
If nothing else, it gives you a really good idea of life in that neck of the woods, so-to-speak.  ::MonkeyEek::
Forgot to add the link.  jeepers.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001870634884


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 07, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
Goodnight monkey friends. I'm startin to fall asleep lol!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
I'm confused.  How is this Julia Woods related?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 12:18:42 AM
I'm confused.  How is this Julia Woods related?
She's some sort of relative of Tyler Noyes, Tyler is some sort of relative of Wendell Noyes.   ::MonkeyEek::

Julia just seems to comment occasionally on the situation, and frankly, seems a little out of it.  I've just been trying to find any FBs that have an open wall/comment section to see what's being said around that area.

I think almost everyone in that area is related, from what I can tell.  It is a mess.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 12:26:31 AM
I googled Wendell Noyes name.  What the hell is this?

http://thedisbrimstonedailypitchfork.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/gag-order-issued-in-the-case-of-celina-cass-stepfather-wendell-noyes-rushed-to-hospital/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 08, 2011, 12:31:31 AM
I googled Wendell Noyes name.  What the hell is this?

http://thedisbrimstonedailypitchfork.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/gag-order-issued-in-the-case-of-celina-cass-stepfather-wendell-noyes-rushed-to-hospital/

 ::MonkeyEek:: omg


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 12:34:44 AM
I googled Wendell Noyes name.  What the hell is this?

http://thedisbrimstonedailypitchfork.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/gag-order-issued-in-the-case-of-celina-cass-stepfather-wendell-noyes-rushed-to-hospital/

 ::MonkeyEek:: omg

Do you think it's a joke or is a gag order the reason we have heard virtually nothing?  My hair hurts at this point.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 12:34:49 AM
I googled Wendell Noyes name.  What the hell is this?

http://thedisbrimstonedailypitchfork.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/gag-order-issued-in-the-case-of-celina-cass-stepfather-wendell-noyes-rushed-to-hospital/

Good heavens.  It must be someone's blog .  Maybe some of the other monkeys have seen it before.  Most of what he/she is saying is what we know, it's just that that blog seems to have a little darker atmosphere than this cage.  wow.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 12:39:04 AM
I googled Wendell Noyes name.  What the hell is this?

http://thedisbrimstonedailypitchfork.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/gag-order-issued-in-the-case-of-celina-cass-stepfather-wendell-noyes-rushed-to-hospital/

 ::MonkeyEek:: omg

Do you think it's a joke or is a gag order the reason we have heard virtually nothing?  My hair hurts at this point.

At this point, I don't know what to think.
I will say that I've read (don't ask me where, maybe news articles, FBs, forums, who knows) that the FBI *asked* various townspeople to not give out any specific detailed info.  Beats me if that's true or not.

If that was the case, I cannot imagine that every person asked would be so compliant, but who knows about that, either.
I guess if the FBI told/asked me not to give out info, I'd sure comply.....heck, I'd probably fake being mute, I'd be so nervous.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 07:40:20 AM
Good morning NCSunny!  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 07:42:30 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/08/event_in_vt_to_honor_life_of_11_year_old_nh_girl/

Event in Vt. to honor life of 11-year-old NH girl
August 8, 2011


Snipped:
An event honoring Celina's life is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. Monday at the Canaan School gymnasium.

Celina played basketball for Canaan School.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 07:50:06 AM
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110808/NEWS03/708089979

Gathering in Vermont will remember Celina Cass

By KATHRYN MARCHOCKI
New Hampshire Union Leader
Published Aug 8, 2011 at 3:00 am (Updated Aug 7, 2011)


Snipped:
Young called the death suspicious based on the condition of the girl's body both in and out of the water.

Snipped:
Forensic technicians are processing evidence collected during the search of Cass's home and two vehicles towed from the driveway since July 26.

Snipped:
The Boston Globe reported one of the pickup trucks seized in the driveway belonged to Noyes. The Globe, quoting neighbors, said the other truck was being driven by Kevin Mullaney, who had moved in with the family.

 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 08:07:43 AM
Vermont Sex Offender Search:
https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/agreement.php

Search on surname Noyes in VT gives this result:
Search Criteria: Last Name = Noyes   Search Again
1 - 4 of 4 Total Records
Name                                   Date of Birth City/Town                 County            State Wanted   Treatment Status    High Risk
NOYES, NORMAN BRUCE   12-10-1947  ST JOHNSBURY         CALEDONIA     VT     No           Not Compliant    No
NOYES, MICHAEL RICHARD   10-07-1964  SOUTH BURLINGTON  CHITTENDEN  VT     No           Compliant            No
NOYES, GORDON EDWARD   12-22-1973  CANAAN                  ESSEX              VT     No           Compliant            No
NOYES, JEREMY JOSEPH   10-24-1979  MONTGOMERY CENTER FRANKLIN      VT     No           Compliant            No
1 - 4 of 4 Total Records    Search Again


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 08, 2011, 08:15:28 AM
Vermont Sex Offender Search:
https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/agreement.php

Search on surname Noyes in VT gives this result:
Search Criteria: Last Name = Noyes   Search Again
1 - 4 of 4 Total Records
Name                                   Date of Birth City/Town                 County            State Wanted   Treatment Status    High Risk
NOYES, NORMAN BRUCE   12-10-1947  ST JOHNSBURY         CALEDONIA     VT     No           Not Compliant    No
NOYES, MICHAEL RICHARD   10-07-1964  SOUTH BURLINGTON  CHITTENDEN  VT     No           Compliant            No
NOYES, GORDON EDWARD   12-22-1973  CANAAN                  ESSEX              VT     No           Compliant            No
NOYES, JEREMY JOSEPH   10-24-1979  MONTGOMERY CENTER FRANKLIN      VT     No           Compliant            No
1 - 4 of 4 Total Records    Search Again

And they are all high risk and not in compliance.....Lawdy


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: NCSunny on August 08, 2011, 08:19:36 AM
Good morning NCSunny!  ::HelloKitty::


GM Titch, and all Monkeys! Trying to catch up after a weekend of company.

This case is more confusing than any others I have followed...I keep reading though, hoping it will all come together and make sense.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks to everyone for all the great sleuthing. I wish I had the time and skills that you guys have.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 08:23:34 AM
Vermont Sex Offender Search:
https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/agreement.php

Search on surname Noyes in VT gives this result:
Search Criteria: Last Name = Noyes   Search Again
1 - 4 of 4 Total Records
Name                                   Date of Birth City/Town                 County            State Wanted   Treatment Status    High Risk
NOYES, NORMAN BRUCE   12-10-1947  ST JOHNSBURY         CALEDONIA     VT     No           Not Compliant    No
NOYES, MICHAEL RICHARD   10-07-1964  SOUTH BURLINGTON  CHITTENDEN  VT     No           Compliant            No
NOYES, GORDON EDWARD   12-22-1973  CANAAN                  ESSEX              VT     No           Compliant            No
NOYES, JEREMY JOSEPH   10-24-1979  MONTGOMERY CENTER FRANKLIN      VT     No           Compliant            No
1 - 4 of 4 Total Records    Search Again

And they are all high risk and not in compliance.....Lawdy

Hiya 4Donks!  ::HelloKitty::  They're all compliant I think except for Norman. It just pasted out of line sections. I'll post each one individually. I thought we already did this but forgot to put it in the who's who thread but I was wrong. I think JerseyGirl gave us this info earlier & Janet just posted another link last night. One sec & I'll post each. I'll go through all surnames involved in Celina's family dynamic.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 08:25:07 AM
VT Noyes RSO List



Registrant Information
Name:   NOYES, MICHAEL RICHARD
Also Known As:   NOYES, MIKE
Date of Birth:   10-07-1964
City/Town:    SOUTH BURLINGTON
Sex:   M
Race:   W
Height:   5 feet 08 inches
Weight:   230 lbs
Eye Color:   BRO
Hair Color:   BRO

Reason for Internet Posting
Conviction for a Qualifying Sex Offense
Sex Offense against a child under 13

Conviction Information
Sexual Offense Conviction(s)   Date of Conviction
AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT    09-08-1998
AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT    09-08-1998
LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS CONDUCT W/A CHILD 2602    09-08-1998

(https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/images/X000005583.jpeg)
Date of Image: 2010-10-21

Treatment Status:   Compliant  
Wanted:   No

Department of Corrections
No longer supervised for sexual crime  


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 08:32:59 AM
VT RSO List


Registrant Information
Name:   NOYES, NORMAN BRUCE
Date of Birth:   12-10-1947
City/Town:    ST JOHNSBURY
Sex:   M
Race:   W
Height:   5 feet 06 inches
Weight:   155 lbs
Eye Color:   BLU
Hair Color:   BRO

Reason for Internet Posting
Offender Has Not Complied with Offender Treatment Requirements
Sex Offense against a child under 13

Conviction Information
Sexual Offense Conviction(s)   
SEXUAL ASSAULT
                                
Date of Conviction 09-14-1999

(https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/images/X000004976.jpeg)
Date of Image: 2010-12-15

Treatment Status:   Not Compliant  
Wanted:   No

Department of Corrections
No longer supervised for sexual crime  


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 08, 2011, 08:39:06 AM
Good gosh...all the Noyes creeps like little girls around Celina's age.  Ya know, if I was to ever  have fallen in love with a man who had that many SO's in the family I might have to think twice about him.  EEEEWWWWWWW!  It seems to run in their blood.  I'm sorry to say that I think everyone up there is related and all the family trees have one trunk!  Poor little girl and I do know for a fact that they have state assistance in that area that would have fixed that childs teeth.  I had a friend move to her Mom's in that state when her hubby passed and she needed assistance for her child until the benefit matters were solved.  I guess if a gag order was issued would it show up in recent court records or not?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 08:41:54 AM
VT RSO List


Registrant Information
Name:   NOYES, GORDON EDWARD
Date of Birth:   12-22-1973
City/Town:    CANAAN
Sex:   M
Race:   W
Height:   5 feet 09 inches
Weight:   231 lbs
Eye Color:   HAZ
Hair Color:   BLN

Reason for Internet Posting
Conviction for a Qualifying Sex Offense

Conviction Information
Sexual Offense Conviction(s)   
SEXUAL ASSAULT 3252    
Date of Conviction 01-31-2005

Sexual Offense Conviction(s)
LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS CONDUCT W/A CHILD 2602    
Date of Conviction 01-31-2005

Sexual Offense Conviction(s)
VOP    
Date of Conviction 02-06-2006

(https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/images/XX00203025.jpeg)
Date of Image: 2011-01-19

Treatment Status:   Compliant  
Wanted:   No

Department of Corrections
Supervising Office:   NEWPORT


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 08:50:31 AM
VT RSO List


Registrant Information
Name:   NOYES, JEREMY JOSEPH
Also Known As:   CASTONGUAY, JEFFRFEY
Date of Birth:   10-24-1979
City/Town:    MONTGOMERY CENTER
Sex:   M
Race:   W
Height:   6 feet 00 inches
Weight:   155 lbs
Eye Color:   HAZ
Hair Color:   BLN

Reason for Internet Posting
Conviction for a Qualifying Sex Offense

Conviction Information
Sexual Offense Conviction(s)
SEXUAL ASSAULT    
Date of Conviction 09-27-1999

Conviction Information
VOP    
Date of Conviction 05-02-2000

(https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/images/X000006196.jpeg)
Date of Image: 2011-02-24

Treatment Status:   Compliant  
Wanted:   No

Department of Corrections
No longer supervised for sexual crime  


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 08, 2011, 08:52:37 AM
I would love to know the definition of "shy" in that area.

They say Celina was shy yet she played sports, had lots of friends and loved having her picture taken. Dad said she was friendly and outgoing.

Louisa is also shy but she had relationships with at least 3 men we know of (Laro, Mullaney & Noyes)and had a job where she dealt with the public on a daily basis.

So what does shy mean ?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 08:54:01 AM
There are NO Laro or Mullaney RSOs listed in VT

https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/agreement.php


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 08:56:10 AM
There are NO Laro or Mullaney RSOs listed in VT

https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/agreement.php

There is NO Cass RSO listed in VT

https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/agreement.php


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 08:59:11 AM
Hi, y'all ~ yippeee!  Another day of 106+ temps around here.......  ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 09:04:20 AM
I would love to know the definition of "shy" in that area.

They say Celina was shy yet she played sports, had lots of friends and loved having her picture taken. Dad said she was friendly and outgoing.

Louisa is also shy but she had relationships with at least 3 men we know of (Laro, Mullaney & Noyes)and had a job where she dealt with the public on a daily basis.

So what does shy mean ?
Look, I'm sure Louisia is nice enough, but I'm just putting this out there, and it won't come across as politically correct.
I think Louisia is probably a little slow on the uptake, probably doesn't have much self-confidence, and falls for any guy who gives her attention.  That said, I hate putting Adam Laro with that group of Mullaney and Noyes 'cause I LIKE Adam Laro, just from the little I've seen and heard.
Louisia is a woman who will always (probably) be a victim of some guy who uses women.

Hope this makes sense.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 08, 2011, 09:06:12 AM
Hi, y'all ~ yippeee!  Another day of 106+ temps around here.......  ::MonkeyCool::



Almost that temp here. Dogs are all in the A/C but I feel badly for the donks in the heat and humidity. Opened the pasture gates and let them go into the woods where it is cooler.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 09:06:12 AM
There are NO Laro or Mullaney RSOs listed in VT

https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/agreement.php

There is NO Cass RSO listed in VT

https://secure.vermont.gov/DPS/sor/agreement.php

You know, I am really glad to see there are no Laros listed . . . not that I wanted to see the others, but I would not have been surprised.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 09:10:05 AM
NH Criminal Offender Search:
http://www4.egov.nh.gov/nsor/


NH Non-Compliant Criminal Offender Search:
http://www4.egov.nh.gov/nsor/Warrant.aspx


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
I would love to know the definition of "shy" in that area.

They say Celina was shy yet she played sports, had lots of friends and loved having her picture taken. Dad said she was friendly and outgoing.

Louisa is also shy but she had relationships with at least 3 men we know of (Laro, Mullaney & Noyes)and had a job where she dealt with the public on a daily basis.

So what does shy mean ?
Look, I'm sure Louisia is nice enough, but I'm just putting this out there, and it won't come across as politically correct.
I think Louisia is probably a little slow on the uptake, probably doesn't have much self-confidence, and falls for any guy who gives her attention.  That said, I hate putting Adam Laro with that group of Mullaney and Noyes 'cause I LIKE Adam Laro, just from the little I've seen and heard.
Louisia is a woman who will always (probably) be a victim of some guy who uses women.

Hope this makes sense.

Couldn't have said it better myself.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 08, 2011, 09:15:48 AM
I wonder if when Adam and Louisa split if the arrangement was that Adam took the son and Louisa took the girls. The son seemed to have a relationship with Louisa because he was in the picture at the vigil with her and also when she was leaving under the blanket. He also lives in Canaan which is close to her.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 09:22:32 AM
NH Criminal Offender List


http://www4.egov.nh.gov/nsor/Display.aspx?offenderID=3692

(http://www4.egov.nh.gov/nsor/Images/3692.jpg)
Date of Photo
1/21/2011
NOYES, DAVID B. 

Last Reported Address: 
P - 708 Union Avenue Apt 5 
Laconia, NEW HAMPSHIRE 03246 Belknap County

Date of Birth: 1/18/1956 
Age: 55

Race: White   
Sex: Male   
Height: 6'0"
Hair: Brown   
Eyes: Brown   
Weight: 195 lbs.

Other Relevant Physical Descriptions:

Scars, Marks, Tattoos, Piercings:
TATTOOS: Arm, nonspecific

Court: Plymouth MA Superior

Adjudication Date: 3/8/2007

Qualifying Offense(s):
NH RSA 649-A:3, I 
15 Counts of Child Pornography (Victim under 16 y.o.)

Status of Parole, Probation or Supervised Release: Parole    
Date: 3/8/2012

Criminal History:    
 
NOYES is required to register under New Hampshire law. Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 09:25:48 AM
There are NO "Non-Compliant" Registered Offenders in NH with the surnames of Noyes, Cass, Mullaney or Laro.

http://www4.egov.nh.gov/nsor/Warrant.aspx


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 08, 2011, 09:26:04 AM
I would love to know the definition of "shy" in that area.

They say Celina was shy yet she played sports, had lots of friends and loved having her picture taken. Dad said she was friendly and outgoing.

Louisa is also shy but she had relationships with at least 3 men we know of (Laro, Mullaney & Noyes)and had a job where she dealt with the public on a daily basis.

So what does shy mean ?

ITA 4donks.  For being shy Louisa certainly had the men in her life.  And Adam did say that Celina was outgoing..so how is an outgoing child shy ::MonkeyEek::

It is almost like some people in the family aren't seeing the same things in others..well I guess not right for all the RSO's to have been in Noyes family and she still married him.  I know he may not be one..but hey..then Louisa should have had a rule no relatives of yours allowed in our home.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 09:29:56 AM
There are NO Criminal Sex Offenders in NH listed with the surnames Mullaney, Cass or Laro.

http://www4.egov.nh.gov/nsor/Search.aspx


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 09:31:36 AM
Should I start checking other close acquaintances now?

What are some surnames?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 09:31:45 AM
I would love to know the definition of "shy" in that area.

They say Celina was shy yet she played sports, had lots of friends and loved having her picture taken. Dad said she was friendly and outgoing.

Louisa is also shy but she had relationships with at least 3 men we know of (Laro, Mullaney & Noyes)and had a job where she dealt with the public on a daily basis.

So what does shy mean ?

ITA 4donks.  For being shy Louisa certainly had the men in her life.  And Adam did say that Celina was outgoing..so how is an outgoing child shy ::MonkeyEek::

It is almost like some people in the family aren't seeing the same things in others..well I guess not right for all the RSO's to have been in Noyes family and she still married him.  I know he may not be one..but hey..then Louisa should have had a rule no relatives of yours allowed in our home.

This word just came to me:  doormat .   
Maybe that's a good way to describe how Louisia comes across to me, at least.  I just can't picture her putting her foot down, although she sure should have. 
Of course, I'm only basing this on having watched her the few times we've had a chance, and then just hearing about the situation in that *home*.  ick.
I wonder what her voice sounds like . . . probably didn't have a chance to use it much at home.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 09:33:45 AM
Should I start checking other close acquaintances now?

What are some surnames?
I'll look around the FBs .  There are a couple, but I need to check the spelling.

Oh, yeah.  I need to see how Dan Cass and Tyler Noyes are doing this morning.  Good gosh .  I've become a stalker, albeit with good intentions.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 09:35:04 AM
I would love to know the definition of "shy" in that area.

They say Celina was shy yet she played sports, had lots of friends and loved having her picture taken. Dad said she was friendly and outgoing.

Louisa is also shy but she had relationships with at least 3 men we know of (Laro, Mullaney & Noyes)and had a job where she dealt with the public on a daily basis.

So what does shy mean ?

ITA 4donks.  For being shy Louisa certainly had the men in her life.  And Adam did say that Celina was outgoing..so how is an outgoing child shy ::MonkeyEek::

It is almost like some people in the family aren't seeing the same things in others..well I guess not right for all the RSO's to have been in Noyes family and she still married him.  I know he may not be one..but hey..then Louisa should have had a rule no relatives of yours allowed in our home.

This word just came to me:  doormat .   
Maybe that's a good way to describe how Louisia comes across to me, at least.  I just can't picture her putting her foot down, although she sure should have. 
Of course, I'm only basing this on having watched her the few times we've had a chance, and then just hearing about the situation in that *home*.  ick.
I wonder what her voice sounds like . . . probably didn't have a chance to use it much at home.

Omg I know somebody like that! What a perfect analogy! I won't even let my kids over her house! My oldest is friends with her son but she's such a doormat with letting people always get over on her that I always worried my son wouldn't be supervised over there. I always made sure her son stayed over here.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 08, 2011, 09:42:02 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/08/event_in_vt_to_honor_life_of_11_year_old_nh_girl/ (http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/08/event_in_vt_to_honor_life_of_11_year_old_nh_girl/)

Event in Vt. to honor life of 11-year-old NH girl
August 8, 2011

CANAAN, Vt.—A celebration of the life of an 11-year-old northern New Hampshire girl is planned at a Vermont school.

Celina Cass had been missing from her Stewartstown home for a week before divers found her body near a dam that spans the Connecticut River between Stewartstown and Canaan, Vt. Her death has been called suspicious. An autopsy failed to pin down the cause of her death and toxicology tests are pending.

An event honoring Celina's life is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. Monday at the Canaan School gymnasium.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 09:54:18 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/08/event_in_vt_to_honor_life_of_11_year_old_nh_girl/ (http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/08/event_in_vt_to_honor_life_of_11_year_old_nh_girl/)

Event in Vt. to honor life of 11-year-old NH girl
August 8, 2011

CANAAN, Vt.—A celebration of the life of an 11-year-old northern New Hampshire girl is planned at a Vermont school.

Celina Cass had been missing from her Stewartstown home for a week before divers found her body near a dam that spans the Connecticut River between Stewartstown and Canaan, Vt. Her death has been called suspicious. An autopsy failed to pin down the cause of her death and toxicology tests are pending.

An event honoring Celina's life is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. Monday at the Canaan School gymnasium.
 ::snipping2::
Thank you for posting this.
I wonder if Kevin Mullaney and Wendell Noyes will show up to pay their respects.  ahemmmm.
This ought to be quite interesting.
Don't you know there will be *authorities* there, not only to honor Celina but also to check out the scene... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 08, 2011, 10:02:33 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/08/event_in_vt_to_honor_life_of_11_year_old_nh_girl/ (http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/08/event_in_vt_to_honor_life_of_11_year_old_nh_girl/)

Event in Vt. to honor life of 11-year-old NH girl
August 8, 2011

CANAAN, Vt.—A celebration of the life of an 11-year-old northern New Hampshire girl is planned at a Vermont school.

Celina Cass had been missing from her Stewartstown home for a week before divers found her body near a dam that spans the Connecticut River between Stewartstown and Canaan, Vt. Her death has been called suspicious. An autopsy failed to pin down the cause of her death and toxicology tests are pending.

An event honoring Celina's life is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. Monday at the Canaan School gymnasium.
 ::snipping2::

What gets me since we found out for sure Celina was rapped in a blanlet, how, from the get go, they call it suspicious.
It's a murder, who raps themselves in a blanket and throws themselves in a river. Now come on. :gaah:
IF Celina was given drugs and died because of that, it's murder.
Atm we really don't know if she was strangled or what, only what we're told.
I don't believe Le is giving the right info out on purpose, maybe to flush the killer/killers out.
Ok, I'm done with my rant..... ::HelloKitty:: ::CowboySmiley::


 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on August 08, 2011, 10:21:07 AM
is anyone else as suprised as i am that there hasn't been an arrest yet?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 08, 2011, 10:27:12 AM
Should I start checking other close acquaintances now?

What are some surnames?
I'll look around the FBs .  There are a couple, but I need to check the spelling.

Oh, yeah.  I need to see how Dan Cass and Tyler Noyes are doing this morning.  Good gosh .  I've become a stalker, albeit with good intentions.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Too funny!  I check them out a few times a day, Kirstin Cass too. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 08, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
Should I start checking other close acquaintances now?

What are some surnames?
I'll look around the FBs .  There are a couple, but I need to check the spelling.

Oh, yeah.  I need to see how Dan Cass and Tyler Noyes are doing this morning.  Good gosh .  I've become a stalker, albeit with good intentions.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Too funny!  I check them out a few times a day, Kristin Cass too.  *fixed name*



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 10:31:34 AM
is anyone else as suprised as i am that there hasn't been an arrest yet?

Yes, I am.  But we don't know if anyone is in custody because LE is being so tight lipped about this case.  I'm very curious because we've seen nothing at all about Kevin.  Not at memorials, no interviews (that we know of), not even at the parade.  We know (or, it has been reported without saying exactly where) that Wendell is in a mental hospital but nothing at all about Kevin. 

This is very unusual for an investigation as newsworthy as this one.  I suspect there's lots of things we don't know.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 10:34:02 AM
I saw this on the Help Find Celina Cass page on Facebook this morning but didn't post it because I think if all of this was true, it would have been leaked long before now.  Then again, it could be true.  I don't know what to think in this case anymore other than I'm very convinced that either Wendell or Kevin killed Celina.

Annmarie Violandi
Wendell and Kevin(20 year old son of mother's ex-boyfriend) know exactly what happened. I would love to know what time the mother went to work-because if it was after 7am.....she knows.
Celina was found wrapped in a blanket and weighted down with chains and cinderblocks. Kevin stole them from his boss or ex boss. Kevin was seen driving around town between 11pm-2:30am and gave no alibi when questioned by police. Wendell was seen @7am washing sheets. 2 hours b4 Celina was reported missing. Same sheets were found in a dumpster behind a restaraunt. Just waiting to see what the toxicology report shows- For little Celina's sake I hope they drugged her. All this time I thought it was Wendell alone--I never gave a second thought about Kevin Kevin has an unsavory record, jail time 2 pregnant girlfriends-he has also been seen stopping and talking to young girls (11-14) on multiple occasions. Rest in peace Celina......you are finally safe!!
Thursday at 11:59am

I actual think there's some validity to it bc every single rumor that came out so far has turned out true...right down to le seizing the red truck and then taking Wendell's the other day. My gut is telling me that Louisa is innocent completely.
::rhino:: ::rhino::
But, I still think Louisia knows/suspects they are the killers, whether one or both, whether one just *helped* the other with disposal (what an awful word to use), or whether it was one, totally alone.

What do y'all think about her at least knowing something, although she may not be able to even process the knowledge.


Oh I def agree with you. Remember the last time Wendell checked into that motel in Canaan VT? Well he checked in with his sister, then his sister took the room key to the front desk & said Wendell wouldn't be back. That's when he checked into that other hospital, where he still is now I believe. If Louisa didn't suspect something, she'd be by his side when she could. Plus we see pics of Kayla with Louisa, as well as her family & Adam's family, but no mention of Kevin being around her lately. So, where's Kevin? The police say they haven't arrested anyone yet. Could Kevin be in custody?

This says it all why mom has not given a phone interview. IMO


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on August 08, 2011, 10:37:10 AM
is anyone else as suprised as i am that there hasn't been an arrest yet?

Yes, I am.  But we don't know if anyone is in custody because LE is being so tight lipped about this case.  I'm very curious because we've seen nothing at all about Kevin.  Not at memorials, no interviews (that we know of), not even at the parade.  We know (or, it has been reported without saying exactly where) that Wendell is in a mental hospital but nothing at all about Kevin. 

This is very unusual for an investigation as newsworthy as this one.  I suspect there's lots of things we don't know.


i agree.  i haven't seen any pictures of kevin at all. it is pretty clear to me that either kevin, wendell, or both are ultimately responsible for murdering celina. what sickos


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 10:40:35 AM
This is from Kristin Cass's Facebook Wall -

Kristin Cass likes a link.

Celina Cass Was Found Wrapped In Blanket In River
boston.cbslocal.com
WBZ-TV has learned that 11-year-old Celina Cass was wrapped in a blanket when she was found dead in the Connecticut River earlier this week.
August 3 at 5:40pm · Like · · Share

        Kym Prive ‎:( I hope that this blanket can be traced back to someone..
        August 3 at 5:44pm · Like
       
        Sharnna LaBounty Howland WOW OMG!!!!!! how terribel, poor girl!!!!!!
        August 3 at 5:47pm · Like
       
        Kristin Cass Me To! I'm sure they will...they towed the silver truck this morning!
        August 3 at 5:58pm · Like
       
        Kym Prive I heard! I wonder who that truck belongs to!
        August 3 at 6:04pm · Like
       
        Sharnna LaBounty Howland ya I was wondering the same thing Kym...
        August 3 at 6:17pm · Like
       
        Ellie Mills It belongs to Wendell...
        August 3 at 6:56pm · Like
       
        Sharnna LaBounty Howland really????
        August 3 at 8:01pm · Like
       
        Ellie Mills yup
        August 3 at 8:03pm · Like
       
        Cynthia Smith Who's Wendell? We don't hear all the news here. After they found Celina, no nore info?
        August 4 at 12:33pm · Like
       
        Kristin Cass wendell is the "step dad" cyndi...he has had mental health "issues" for a very long time, he was       last to see celina and his truck was towed from their home yesterday. He has checked into a mental health hospital & there is much more that I can say but wont on here! love and miss you!!
        August 4 at 12:57pm · Like
       

        Kristin Cass there has been little things here and there being released and "said" about how they found celina but they have not said they have a person of interest or suspect. There is alot of speculation and A LOT of opinions but as i said i will refrain from making my opinion until all is said and done!! they are waiting for her toxicology report to come back..and by the way i DO NOT LIKE this link but it was the only way i could share....this really sickens me and i hope they do make an arrest very soon.....
        August 4 at 1:00pm · Like
   


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 11:21:39 AM
The truck's are still impounded according to www.blinkoncrime.com

 ::MonkeyBike::

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/#comments

Post 5


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 11:39:10 AM
Apologizing for the very long copy and paste.  The VERY last comment, from Blink, which is bolded ~ I guess I'm really dense....is Blink saying it's not a good sign for the killer(s) *or* for the authorities?   I am sorry I don't get it.   ::MonkeyConfused::

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/#comments

Riverpearl says:
August 8, 2011 at 6:40 am

Event in Vt. to honor life of 11-year-old NH girl
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/08/event_in_vt_to_honor_life_of_11_year_old_nh_girl/

An event honoring Celina’s life is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. Monday at the Canaan School gymnasium.

Celina played basketball for Canaan School.
————————————————————
Gathering in Vermont will remember Celina Cass
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110808/NEWS03/708089979

Senior Assistant Attorney General Jane E. Young said Sunday that there were no new developments. She said it could be days — even weeks — before new specific details are available.

Forensic technicians are processing evidence collected during the search of Cass’s home and two vehicles towed from the driveway since July 26. The state Medical Examiner’s office also is waiting for results of toxicological tests that have been sent to a Pennsyvlania laboratory.

The Boston Globe reported one of the pickup trucks seized in the driveway belonged to Noyes. The Globe, quoting neighbors, said the other truck was being driven by Kevin Mullaney, who had moved in with the family.
—————————————————–
N.H. town moves slowly beyond grief
http://articles.boston.com/2011-08-07/news/29862172_1_nursing-home-moves-wagon

Jane Young, New Hampshire’s senior assistant attorney general, said during a phone interview yesterday that officials are still looking at the case as a criminal investigation.

Investigators were in and out of the Cass home Wednesday and towed a silver Ford pickup truck. Young said the search of the house has been completed.
—————————————————-

The fact that both trucks are still in impound is not a good sign.
B



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: sunshine12 on August 08, 2011, 11:41:57 AM
it says the toxicology is being done at a lab in pennsylvania. i bet its the same one that the toxicologist the defense team used in the caylee anthony trial is from. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 12:23:53 PM
Some interesting info on the Noyes surname:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bctkWRxchN0J:polygamybooks.org/2011/05/01/the-canadian-constitutional-reference-case.aspx

Snipped:

            Socialistic experimental societies.  The name, John Humphrey Noyes and his Oneida Community epitomizes the radical New England, social experiments of the Nineteenth Century.  Noyes, born in 1811, was a contemporary of Joseph Smith who was born in 1805. The Oneida Community was both religious and socialistic, more exactly communistic.  And as it seems, the more socialistic the dogma, the more liberal becomes sexual cohabitation.  And eventually, unrestrained sexual behavior becomes dogmatic or coerced conformity as it did in the Oneida Community and FLDS.

            In contrast to Joseph Smith, John Noyes was well educated and came from a prominent family.  But he had some strange ideas that did not conform to the Yale Divinity School where his license to preach was revoked.

            Although Noyes’ theocracy was not as dynamic as Mormonism it did have some parallels.   They both sought to revolutionize the institution of marriage by permitting men to copulate with many women.  Joseph came up with polygamy; John Noyes created “Complex Marriage.”

            In order for these radical sexual deviations to be accepted there needed to be the illusion that God approved.  Although Noyes did not receive revelation wholesale like Joseph he convinced himself and his followers that he was an agent of God.

            Noyes professed that his communistic society was sinless and represented perfection.  He denounced the institution of marriage replacing it with Complex Marriage which meant that every man was married to every woman and every woman was married to every man.  In that regard he coined the phrase:  “Free love.”  But intimate, lasting relations between a man and woman were frowned upon as was the family unit.  (Complex marriage is kind’a like canine marriage.  Males copulate with whatever breed happens to be in heat.)

            Noyes invented new terms for “old dogma,” in other words fancy words like “complex marriage” for free love.

            He introduced the concept of “Male Continence,” meaning delayed ejaculation – as a means for birth control.  He wanted to keep pregnancy at a minimum, whereas Brigham Young emphasized “multiply and replenish,” and “building up a righteous seed,” as the impetus for copulating with many women. Brigham wanted a huge membership as a means of building up the Kingdom of God.  Noyes also thought he had established the Kingdom of God but for some reason discouraged multiplying and replenishing   

            Noyes introduced the concept of “Ascending Fellowship,” which was the righteous introduction of virgins to “Complex Marriage” by old men called “Central Members.” The old men were the spiritual patriarchs and got to pick the young virgins and of course these naïve pubescent girls had no choice but to comply.   And as we have learned, Brigham encouraged the young ladies to marry old men because they were tried and true and had a much better chance of being exalted. 

            Noyes introduced another doctrine, “Mutual Criticism,” which was a method of coercing conformity.  Non conformists were subject to group criticism or criticism from the whole community until they conformed.  Brigham and Joseph used priesthood and revelation to coerce conformity.

            Contrary to Mormonism which is male dominated by a “priesthood” Noyes made women equal to men and some women even served on the community ruling boards.  Nevertheless women were expected to wear dresses but many wore pants under their dresses just like women in the FLDS do today. 

            The Oneida Community heyday occurred after Joseph Smith’s death.  There were never more than 400 members but because it was so radical, especially where sexual permissiveness was concerned it received much publicity.

            Complex Marriage was the Oneida Community’s downfall just as polygamy was Joseph’s downfall.  Noyes was indicted for adultery and the people were severely persecuted.  Noyes turned control of the community over to his son who ruled with an iron fist.  As the community disintegrated the people reverted back to monogamy.

            The reader interested in more information about Noyes and other radical, religious socialist experiments can consult, Strange Cults and Utopians of 19th-Century America, formerly titled, History of American Socialisms, by Dover Publications, Inc., New York.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 12:40:53 PM
Some interesting info on the Noyes surname:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bctkWRxchN0J:polygamybooks.org/2011/05/01/the-canadian-constitutional-reference-case.aspx

Snipped:

            Socialistic experimental societies.  The name, John Humphrey Noyes and his Oneida Community epitomizes the radical New England, social experiments of the Nineteenth Century.  Noyes, born in 1811, was a contemporary of Joseph Smith who was born in 1805. The Oneida Community was both religious and socialistic, more exactly communistic.  And as it seems, the more socialistic the dogma, the more liberal becomes sexual cohabitation.  And eventually, unrestrained sexual behavior becomes dogmatic or coerced conformity as it did in the Oneida Community and FLDS.
 ::snipping2::
            Noyes introduced another doctrine, “Mutual Criticism,” which was a method of coercing conformity.  Non conformists were subject to group criticism or criticism from the whole community until they conformed.  Brigham and Joseph used priesthood and revelation to coerce conformity.

            Contrary to Mormonism which is male dominated by a “priesthood” Noyes made women equal to men and some women even served on the community ruling boards.  Nevertheless women were expected to wear dresses but many wore pants under their dresses just like women in the FLDS do today. 

            The Oneida Community heyday occurred after Joseph Smith’s death.  There were never more than 400 members but because it was so radical, especially where sexual permissiveness was concerned it received much publicity.

            Complex Marriage was the Oneida Community’s downfall just as polygamy was Joseph’s downfall.  Noyes was indicted for adultery and the people were severely persecuted.  Noyes turned control of the community over to his son who ruled with an iron fist.  As the community disintegrated the people reverted back to monogamy.

            The reader interested in more information about Noyes and other radical, religious socialist experiments can consult, Strange Cults and Utopians of 19th-Century America, formerly titled, History of American Socialisms, by Dover Publications, Inc., New York.
 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 12:41:11 PM
Holy cow! Read this! Definitely moi interesting! To think, I have generations & generations of Oneida flatware in my buffet!

http://www.nyhistory.com/central/oneida.htm

Snipped but the whole article is incredibly interesting:

The Oneida Community
THE SHAKERS / ONEIDA COMMUNITY
by Randall Hillebrand, (Part Two) *

The founder of the Oneida Community was John Humphrey Noyes. He was born in Brattleboro, Vermont, in 1811. John Humphrey came from a well established home where his father, also named John, was a congressman and Dartmouth graduate. His mother Polly was sixteen years younger than his father and was a very strong- willed and deeply religious woman. She always taught her children "to fear the Lord." She even prayed before John Humphrey's birth that someday he might become a devoted minister of the gospel. Up until John Humphery's conversion, he was known as a rebel who had little interest in theology or in his studies. He entered Dartmouth in 1826, the year that revival had hit its peak under Charles Finney. But to no avail, John was not affected by it and looked at religion with great cynicism. Five years later though, at the request of his mother, John attended a four-day revival meeting in Putney, Vermont, again under the ministry of Charles Finney. At first he was not moved by what he heard, "but after the meeting he suffered a feverish cold which led him to think of death, and to humble himself before God." He vigorously embraced the faith and the expectation of the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom. Later he studied at Andover and Yale Divinity School with a vision of going into the ministry.

While at Yale, Noyes came to a new understanding of the way of salvation which he labeled as Perfectionism. This view did not hold to total depravity as did the Calvinists' view, but it saw man as reaching a state of perfection or sinlessness at conversion. When Noyes asserted this doctrine of complete release from sin at conversion while studying at Yale Divinity School, he was denied ordination. It is said that one of the reasons that Noyes adopted this doctrine was the fact that he could not believe that he was a sinner, since he could not summon up from within any feeling of deep guilt and despair. For whatever reason he adopted this doctrine, it was the underlying foundation of his future endeavors.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 12:41:55 PM
it says the toxicology is being done at a lab in pennsylvania. i bet its the same one that the toxicologist the defense team used in the caylee anthony trial is from. 
I just wish we had some sort of an idea when the results will be released. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 12:45:40 PM
Holy cow! Read this! Definitely moi interesting! To think, I have generations & generations of Oneida flatware in my buffet!

http://www.nyhistory.com/central/oneida.htm

Snipped but the whole article is incredibly interesting:

The Oneida Community
THE SHAKERS / ONEIDA COMMUNITY
by Randall Hillebrand, (Part Two) *

The founder of the Oneida Community was John Humphrey Noyes. He was born in Brattleboro, Vermont, in 1811. John Humphrey came from a well established home where his father, also named John, was a congressman and Dartmouth graduate. His mother Polly was sixteen years younger than his father and was a very strong- willed and deeply religious woman. She always taught her children "to fear the Lord." She even prayed before John Humphrey's birth that someday he might become a devoted minister of the gospel. Up until John Humphery's conversion, he was known as a rebel who had little interest in theology or in his studies. He entered Dartmouth in 1826, the year that revival had hit its peak under Charles Finney. But to no avail, John was not affected by it and looked at religion with great cynicism. Five years later though, at the request of his mother, John attended a four-day revival meeting in Putney, Vermont, again under the ministry of Charles Finney. At first he was not moved by what he heard, "but after the meeting he suffered a feverish cold which led him to think of death, and to humble himself before God." He vigorously embraced the faith and the expectation of the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom. Later he studied at Andover and Yale Divinity School with a vision of going into the ministry.

While at Yale, Noyes came to a new understanding of the way of salvation which he labeled as Perfectionism. This view did not hold to total depravity as did the Calvinists' view, but it saw man as reaching a state of perfection or sinlessness at conversion. When Noyes asserted this doctrine of complete release from sin at conversion while studying at Yale Divinity School, he was denied ordination. It is said that one of the reasons that Noyes adopted this doctrine was the fact that he could not believe that he was a sinner, since he could not summon up from within any feeling of deep guilt and despair. For whatever reason he adopted this doctrine, it was the underlying foundation of his future endeavors.
This is something else . . .really interesting.  By the way, I had the same reaction about the Oneida silverware.  Not sure how I'll feel about using it . . hmmm.  That's one way to lose my appetite.
Don't you know these guys are turning over in their graves over this batch of Noyes' .   ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
Holy cow! Read this! Definitely moi interesting! To think, I have generations & generations of Oneida flatware in my buffet!

http://www.nyhistory.com/central/oneida.htm

Snipped but the whole article is incredibly interesting:

The Oneida Community
THE SHAKERS / ONEIDA COMMUNITY
by Randall Hillebrand, (Part Two) *

The founder of the Oneida Community was John Humphrey Noyes. He was born in Brattleboro, Vermont, in 1811. John Humphrey came from a well established home where his father, also named John, was a congressman and Dartmouth graduate. His mother Polly was sixteen years younger than his father and was a very strong- willed and deeply religious woman. She always taught her children "to fear the Lord." She even prayed before John Humphrey's birth that someday he might become a devoted minister of the gospel. Up until John Humphery's conversion, he was known as a rebel who had little interest in theology or in his studies. He entered Dartmouth in 1826, the year that revival had hit its peak under Charles Finney. But to no avail, John was not affected by it and looked at religion with great cynicism. Five years later though, at the request of his mother, John attended a four-day revival meeting in Putney, Vermont, again under the ministry of Charles Finney. At first he was not moved by what he heard, "but after the meeting he suffered a feverish cold which led him to think of death, and to humble himself before God." He vigorously embraced the faith and the expectation of the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom. Later he studied at Andover and Yale Divinity School with a vision of going into the ministry.

While at Yale, Noyes came to a new understanding of the way of salvation which he labeled as Perfectionism. This view did not hold to total depravity as did the Calvinists' view, but it saw man as reaching a state of perfection or sinlessness at conversion. When Noyes asserted this doctrine of complete release from sin at conversion while studying at Yale Divinity School, he was denied ordination. It is said that one of the reasons that Noyes adopted this doctrine was the fact that he could not believe that he was a sinner, since he could not summon up from within any feeling of deep guilt and despair. For whatever reason he adopted this doctrine, it was the underlying foundation of his future endeavors.

This is something else . . .really interesting.  By the way, I had the same reaction about the Oneida silverware.  Not sure how I'll feel about using it . . hmmm.  That's one way to lose my appetite.
Don't you know these guys are turning over in their graves over this batch of Noyes' .   ::MonkeyShovel::

Guess what, this is too funny that we're on the same page... Some years ago, my mil gave me a Waterford Spooner to keep on my counter. She put an old Oneida silver teaspoon in it. I always thought it was the cutesy thing that my Nona did but had no idea others thought it was "cool". When I met my mil, I almost cried when I saw her spooner, then told her about my Nona & our numerous tea parties with little cakes & shortbreads. I have like 20 different silver teaspoons in my Spooner right now & all my friends adore the idea. I LITERALLY just now went over to my counter & took an Oneida spoon out of my Spooner - taped it on my freezer so I won't eat any Snicker's ice cream bars...I'm addicted to them!

Anyway, look at this from the same link...

Snipped:

The Oneida Community never did become very large. In January of 1849 the community had 87 members; 172 members by February of 1850, and by February of 1851 the number rose to approximately 205 members. The records show that in 1875 there were 298 members, and by 1878, the beginning year of the breakup, there were 306 members. From the original 87 members at Oneida in 1849, the totals from that year on were group totals from all of the communities combined.

 http://www.nyhistory.com/central/oneida.htm


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 02:32:15 PM
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/#comments

 (7) B. is praying for Mr. Laro's, maybe we should, too.  Prayers will be good for Mr. Laro, and Celina's soul, too,
 we care about her Dad. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 02:34:59 PM
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/#comments

 (7) B. is praying for Mr. Laro's, maybe we should, too.  Prayers will be good for Mr. Laro, and Celina's soul, too,
 we care about her Dad. ::MonkeyAngel::

what does this comment mean to you?  It was after comment #6 on Blink's (link noted above.  guess that's okay).

The fact that both trucks are still in impound is not a good sign.
B


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 08, 2011, 02:41:21 PM
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/#comments

 (7) B. is praying for Mr. Laro's, maybe we should, too.  Prayers will be good for Mr. Laro, and Celina's soul, too,
 we care about her Dad. ::MonkeyAngel::

what does this comment mean to you?  It was after comment #6 on Blink's (link noted above.  guess that's okay).

The fact that both trucks are still in impound is not a good sign.
B



I would imagine if they are both being held that there is incriminating evidence in both vehicles. If nothing was found they would have to be released back to the owners.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 02:43:37 PM
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/08/02/nh-girl-celina-cass-body-found-in-ct-river-police-probe-focuses-on-family-home-and-stepdad-wendell-noyes/#comments

 (7) B. is praying for Mr. Laro's, maybe we should, too.  Prayers will be good for Mr. Laro, and Celina's soul, too,
 we care about her Dad. ::MonkeyAngel::

what does this comment mean to you?  It was after comment #6 on Blink's (link noted above.  guess that's okay).

The fact that both trucks are still in impound is not a good sign.
B


Good afternoon Monkey’s,


Tcumom, ::MonkeyEek::

I have been thinking about B’s comment for hours.
She is a minimalist with words.  I concluded it is not a good sign
For the Wendell Mullaney’s. 

Thank-you for offering for Ancestry look-ups for GC.  They are not
Fully loaded on NH except for Telephone directories and for city
Directories.

http://www.evendon.net/PGHLookups/DirM.htm

A few sites for other things nothing petaining to this case.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 02:50:00 PM
Seahorse and 4donks ~ Thanks so much for your take on that comment.  Y'all are interpreting it the same way I did. 
Then, I started over-analyzing it, and thinking, well, maybe she's saying the authorities are desperately hunting for something, anything to connect the vehicles with the crime.

I'm telling y'all ~ I watch waaayyyy too much NCIS, and am waaayyyy too consumed with this case; for some reason, much more so than when I followed Natalee and Caylee.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 03:02:26 PM
Seahorse and 4donks ~ Thanks so much for your take on that comment.  Y'all are interpreting it the same way I did. 
Then, I started over-analyzing it, and thinking, well, maybe she's saying the authorities are desperately hunting for something, anything to connect the vehicles with the crime.

I'm telling y'all ~ I watch waaayyyy too much NCIS, and am waaayyyy too consumed with this case; for some reason, much more so than when I followed Natalee and Caylee.   ::MonkeyEek::


tcumom,

 ::rhino::
It is my opinion, woman are born to solve puzzles.

Women give life and nurture life, and we want to know what happened to a life, that should still be here. This is the way
It should be, searching doggedly at the truth.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 08, 2011, 03:02:36 PM
Seahorse and 4donks ~ Thanks so much for your take on that comment.  Y'all are interpreting it the same way I did. 
Then, I started over-analyzing it, and thinking, well, maybe she's saying the authorities are desperately hunting for something, anything to connect the vehicles with the crime.

I'm telling y'all ~ I watch waaayyyy too much NCIS, and am waaayyyy too consumed with this case; for some reason, much more so than when I followed Natalee and Caylee.   ::MonkeyEek::

I also wonder if they found anything on the computer...child pornography  and the case has expanded.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 03:26:05 PM
Seahorse and 4donks ~ Thanks so much for your take on that comment.  Y'all are interpreting it the same way I did. 
Then, I started over-analyzing it, and thinking, well, maybe she's saying the authorities are desperately hunting for something, anything to connect the vehicles with the crime.

I'm telling y'all ~ I watch waaayyyy too much NCIS, and am waaayyyy too consumed with this case; for some reason, much more so than when I followed Natalee and Caylee.   ::MonkeyEek::

I also wonder if they found anything on the computer...child pornography  and the case has expanded.



There must be a sale on Monkey “thinking caps” :)

I also wonder if he is being investigated with any connection, to any serial killings?

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 03:39:15 PM
I believe that LE is holding back until the toxicology comes back.  I think that is the last string they are waiting for to tie this case solidly together.  And then there will be an arrest.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Amys Sister on August 08, 2011, 04:25:26 PM
Seahorse and 4donks ~ Thanks so much for your take on that comment.  Y'all are interpreting it the same way I did. 
Then, I started over-analyzing it, and thinking, well, maybe she's saying the authorities are desperately hunting for something, anything to connect the vehicles with the crime.

I'm telling y'all ~ I watch waaayyyy too much NCIS, and am waaayyyy too consumed with this case; for some reason, much more so than when I followed Natalee and Caylee.   ::MonkeyEek::


tcumom,

 ::rhino::
It is my opinion, woman are born to solve puzzles.

Women give life and nurture life, and we want to know what happened to a life, that should still be here. This is the way
It should be, searching doggedly at the truth.


Hi Seahorse.  I totally agree.

If it weren't for the two female security officers at the college campus who followed their instincts, Jaycee Dugard would not have been found.

How many male parole officers came into Phillip Garrido's home with an attitude and a job to do yet never discovered her?

No male bashing from me, they have skills we girls struggle with for sure, but there is a brain/heart connection that we as life givers have that is immeasureably useful in 'seeing' things that would escape a males perception.

Please don't throw banana's... I love the male gender and all their yummy manly qualities.   ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 04:48:40 PM
Seahorse and 4donks ~ Thanks so much for your take on that comment.  Y'all are interpreting it the same way I did. 
Then, I started over-analyzing it, and thinking, well, maybe she's saying the authorities are desperately hunting for something, anything to connect the vehicles with the crime.

I'm telling y'all ~ I watch waaayyyy too much NCIS, and am waaayyyy too consumed with this case; for some reason, much more so than when I followed Natalee and Caylee.   ::MonkeyEek::

I also wonder if they found anything on the computer...child pornography  and the case has expanded.



There must be a sale on Monkey “thinking caps” :)

I also wonder if he is being investigated with any connection, to any serial killings?

 ::justice2NJ::



I can't stop thinking of truckers in the family, truck stop across the street, plus Kevin Mullaney & his criminal background on top of everything, omgosh!

Oh yeah, women just can't stop til they have all the answers...I know that's exactly how I am! Lol!

(http://www.funnyanimalsite.com/pictures/Monkey_Is_Lol.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 05:58:08 PM
I wonder why Wendell and Kayla would answer each other on Facebook.  They lived together.  Or did they all use the same computer?  From Wendell's Wall -

Wendell Noyes
how is everyone doing
July 19, 2010 at 7:05pm

        Kayla Laro i am doing great
        July 19, 2010 at 7:09pm
        Paula Ladd Senneville Wendell how the heck are you? I don't think I have seen you since our 5th alumni banquet.
        July 19, 2010 at 8:54pm
        Gail Bohan Martineau It has been a very LONG time since I've seen you. Where are you now?
        July 20, 2010 at 6:53am
        Wendell Noyes I"m doing fine collecting my retirement,living on main street in West Stewartstown,our 30 anniversary is coming up
        July 20, 2010 at 12:07pm

       


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 06:40:44 PM

Interesting that I just went to Tyler's fb profile...
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1263560033

Then I clicked on one of his pics from the top of his page... Here's his media set which he's tagged in:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=t.1263560033&type=1

Well it's interesting that this picture was tagged or sent to Tyler...
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=132184470190784&set=t.1263560033&type=1

Here's the link that is given under that picture:
http://hottieladies.blogspot.com/

Here's the tags & comments given under that picture on Tyler's media set:
In this photo: Tyler Noyes (photos), Troy Boynes, Seyvon Collins, Tmoney JustmiLuck Howard, Tha Realist Witt, Rozay Ross, True Baller (photos), ShAq Money-gang BuSh, Travis Rowland, Roy Trizzy Nestor, Southside Og Flair, Pxlx Montana, Skinney Dntfuccwthme Wright, Preloe Abm Duckett, Tibak Mangmang, Rich Kellz, Ricky Ponte, Smooveboii Jae, Timothy Daniels, Tae Walker, Rodney Swaqq'Boy Richardson, Trent Veal, Tito Jackson, Qua Huguley, Wizdom Gottachange Chaimbers, Prince Tazz, Shea Keyz, Preddiie Mamii, CeCe Ole'Rude Aihh, Tory Collins, Prince Keaton, Rodney Levon, Travis Mrperfect Baker, Ronald TvlAvlnpapaovapussy Jones, Ray Deaver, Trevor Alexander, Pretty Delphia Lenny, Prestin T. Clark, Santana Stiffler (photos), Phlipp Hopp, Quantrayvist Davis (photos), Paul Barnes, Payne Undefeatable Gordon, Quan Assante Mccants Austin
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Hmmm... Usually, when a spammed pic such as this, links to a profile, it's only after it's been viewed multiple times... Please note that this is there as of today's date of 8/8/11.  


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 06:45:22 PM
Who is Tyler's dad? There's more than one Tyler though, right? Nick is Wendell's son? Is Gordon Tyler's dad, or another Noyes?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 06:47:29 PM
I sound like one of my students ..... this guy makes me vomit .
Following in the footsteps of Wendell . . . what a winner.

I am feeling a little down in the dumps and discouraged.  If only we had a tiny shred of info.

Still wondering where Kevin is ?    ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 06:53:01 PM
I sound like one of my students ..... this guy makes me vomit .
Following in the footsteps of Wendell . . . what a winner.

I am feeling a little down in the dumps and discouraged.  If only we had a tiny shred of info.

Still wondering where Kevin is ?    ::MonkeyMad::

I feel the same way. There are other pics that Tyler was tagged in, including his 16th bday pic dated 2007. Julie Woods tagged him in several as one of her "little angels", so I guess he's her son?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 06:58:57 PM
I sound like one of my students ..... this guy makes me vomit .
Following in the footsteps of Wendell . . . what a winner.

I am feeling a little down in the dumps and discouraged.  If only we had a tiny shred of info.

Still wondering where Kevin is ?    ::MonkeyMad::

I feel the same way. There are other pics that Tyler was tagged in, including his 16th bday pic dated 2007. Julie Woods tagged him in several as one of her "little angels", so I guess he's her son?

I was wrong! Tyler is Julie Woods' nephew!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 07:01:13 PM
I sound like one of my students ..... this guy makes me vomit .
Following in the footsteps of Wendell . . . what a winner.

I am feeling a little down in the dumps and discouraged.  If only we had a tiny shred of info.

Still wondering where Kevin is ?    ::MonkeyMad::

I feel the same way. There are other pics that Tyler was tagged in, including his 16th bday pic dated 2007. Julie Woods tagged him in several as one of her "little angels", so I guess he's her son?

I was wrong! Tyler is Julie Woods' nephew!

Also, looks like she's struggled according to her wall. When you look at her pictures, you can see how much she loves family. She also has a pic from the candle light vigil for Celina. Gosh I feel so terrible for this family.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 07:13:42 PM
Can we use any of the following info to figure out if or how Tyler's related to Wendell or his family? Julie's fb is open, it's not private.

Julie Woods FB

Info:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001870634884&sk=info

Wall:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001870634884&sk=wall

Friends:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001870634884&sk=friends

Relatives listed on her FB as:
Family

Darlene Belknap
Sister

Lisa Noyes
Sister

Karen Belknap
Sister

George
Son

Gerry Woods
Son

Lindsay Woods
Daughter

Martha Pike Weimer
Aunt

Susan Cross
Aunt

karen lebree
Niece

Jason Belknap
Nephew

Spencer Gregory Noyes
Nephew

Tyler Noyes
Nephew

Nick Noyes
Nephew

Andrew Noyes
Nephew

Jessica Biron
Niece

Elizabeth Ellyn Malpezzi
Niece

Ashley Riendeau
Niece

Kaylee Noyes
Niece



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 07:18:33 PM
I sound like one of my students ..... this guy makes me vomit .
Following in the footsteps of Wendell . . . what a winner.

I am feeling a little down in the dumps and discouraged.  If only we had a tiny shred of info.

Still wondering where Kevin is ?
    ::MonkeyMad::

Good evening Monkey's,


Tcumom,

Is Kevin M. on probation?

 He is 20 years old, if we can believe the poster, Annie?

Was he in trouble five years ago?  Did he serve time? 

Last October, he moved into the home? 


Have you tried Pennsylvania, by any chance for time served?


Thank-you
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 07:19:46 PM
I'm going to fix supper .  Like I really want to cook in this 106 degree heat .  ugh.
It's my last hurrah before school starts next week.
The kitchen will be closed for a while after that .  hee.

That's my way of saying, I'll be back to help check out all those relatives of Tyler's and others.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
I sound like one of my students ..... this guy makes me vomit .
Following in the footsteps of Wendell . . . what a winner.

I am feeling a little down in the dumps and discouraged.  If only we had a tiny shred of info.

Still wondering where Kevin is ?
    ::MonkeyMad::

Good evening Monkey's,


Tcumom,

Is Kevin M. on probation?

 He is 20 years old, if we can believe the poster, Annie?

Was he in trouble five years ago?  Did he serve time? 

Last October, he moved into the home? 


Have you tried Pennsylvania, by any chance for time served?


Thank-you
 ::MonkeyTongue::

Hey!  Before I go for a few minutes, I can't find anything on him being on probation.  I think someone here said he's 23 or so, and also, some of the news articles said that.

Look at Will Mullaney on FB.  Hold on, and I'll get the link.  I am wondering how he is related.  That dude is verrrrrry into paintball.

Oh, WOW!  I just went to find him.  Unless I messed up, he is no longer friends with Kevin Mullaney OR Tyler Noyes.....Will Mullaney was there this morning.

hmmmm.  distancing.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 07:25:46 PM
Stepdad's pickup taken from home of dead NH girl - Yahoo! News
news.yahoo.com/stepdads-pickup-taken-home-dead-nh-girl-231713... - Cached4 days ago – Brady said Noyes has been surrounded by her family since ... Mullaney pleaded guilty to stealing five cars and trucks in 2007 and  ... A man who answered the phone at the home of Wendell Noyes' ... But they were everything to each other." .... Ex-boyfriends 23 year old son, with a criminal history, ...


OK, it was four years ago...so is he 23 or 20?   If he is on probation, he the law knows his where abouts. ::justice2NJ::

TCUmom posted the information, we should document it over on Celina's thread for reference. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 08, 2011, 07:31:28 PM
I wonder why Wendell and Kayla would answer each other on Facebook.  They lived together.  Or did they all use the same computer?  From Wendell's Wall -

Wendell Noyes
how is everyone doing
July 19, 2010 at 7:05pm

        Kayla Laro i am doing great
        July 19, 2010 at 7:09pm
        Paula Ladd Senneville Wendell how the heck are you? I don't think I have seen you since our 5th alumni banquet.
        July 19, 2010 at 8:54pm
        Gail Bohan Martineau It has been a very LONG time since I've seen you. Where are you now?
        July 20, 2010 at 6:53am
        Wendell Noyes I"m doing fine collecting my retirement,living on main street in West Stewartstown,our 30 anniversary is coming up
        July 20, 2010 at 12:07pm

       

Paula Ladd Senneville Wendell ............
does anyone know who this person is related to,my cuz father is a Wendell,and his MgrMa
is a Senneville, the Senneville are from canada,100yr or so,and the Wendell, are from
connecticut, at some point in the 1940s
maternal grand mother


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 07:34:55 PM
Hmm. I just read Celina Cass Obituary.. It mentions Wendall Noyes.. Geeze even if he wasn't involved he was still a danger to the girls..IMO

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/CelinaCassObiturary.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 07:35:16 PM
I'm going to fix supper .  Like I really want to cook in this 106 degree heat .  ugh.
It's my last hurrah before school starts next week.
The kitchen will be closed for a while after that .  hee.

That's my way of saying, I'll be back to help check out all those relatives of Tyler's and others.   ::MonkeyEek::

Tcumom,


Could this be Uncle Dean?  Remember Dan mentioned his Uncle Dean?  This is the third brother to Louisia.



REED, WAYNE DEAN (Age 51)

Associated names:

 REED, WAYNE D REED,  W
 WAYNE, REED
   Available(2)    Available    JEFFERSON, NH
LANCASTER, NH    Possible Relatives:

SCHOONER, VALERIE ANN (Age 48)
REED, VALERIE ANN (Age 48)

http://www.people-finders.ws/processor.asp



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 07:35:40 PM
I wonder why Wendell and Kayla would answer each other on Facebook.  They lived together.  Or did they all use the same computer?  From Wendell's Wall -

Wendell Noyes
how is everyone doing
July 19, 2010 at 7:05pm

        Kayla Laro i am doing great
        July 19, 2010 at 7:09pm
        Paula Ladd Senneville Wendell how the heck are you? I don't think I have seen you since our 5th alumni banquet.
        July 19, 2010 at 8:54pm
        Gail Bohan Martineau It has been a very LONG time since I've seen you. Where are you now?
        July 20, 2010 at 6:53am
        Wendell Noyes I"m doing fine collecting my retirement,living on main street in West Stewartstown,our 30 anniversary is coming up
        July 20, 2010 at 12:07pm

       

Paula Ladd Senneville Wendell ............
does anyone know who this person is related to,my cuz father is a Wendell,and his MgrMa
is a Senneville, the Senneville are from canada,100yr or so,and the Wendell, are from
connecticut, at some point in the 1940s
maternal grand mother

Her name is Paula Ladd Senneville. She forgot to put a comma after Wendell, but she's addressing Wendell Noyes on his Wall by asking him how he's doing.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 07:38:25 PM
Seahorse, you're great at finding genealogical links. That's awesome!

Did you read back yet? I posted a couple links on the Noyes surname history. Remember that offhanded comment about a big wall around the area? Hmmm...


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
Snipped..

Around 2 p.m. on Wednesday,
Celina's mother, Louisa
Noyes, was brought into the
Command Center. She was
inside for almost two hours and
when she emerged, she was
clearly distraught and surrounded
by family and friends
who attempted to shield her
from a large amount of media
that were now on scene by
wrapping a large blanket
around her. The ambulance
had been called to pickup
Louisa on Tuesday evening
because she was having difficulty
breathing. She was subsequently
treated at the hospital
and released.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/July29.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 07:55:04 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/LouisaCassNoyes.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 08, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
Snipped..

Around 2 p.m. on Wednesday,
Celina's mother, Louisa
Noyes, was brought into the
Command Center. She was
inside for almost two hours and
when she emerged, she was
clearly distraught and surrounded
by family and friends
who attempted to shield her
from a large amount of media
that were now on scene by
wrapping a large blanket
around her. The ambulance
had been called to pickup
Louisa on Tuesday evening
because she was having difficulty
breathing. She was subsequently
treated at the hospital
and released.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/July29.pdf

hmmm..maybe there is going to be an arrest soon?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 08, 2011, 07:56:38 PM
Snipped..

Around 2 p.m. on Wednesday,
Celina's mother, Louisa
Noyes, was brought into the
Command Center. She was
inside for almost two hours and
when she emerged, she was
clearly distraught and surrounded
by family and friends
who attempted to shield her
from a large amount of media
that were now on scene by
wrapping a large blanket
around her. The ambulance
had been called to pickup
Louisa on Tuesday evening
because she was having difficulty
breathing. She was subsequently
treated at the hospital
and released.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/July29.pdf

hmmm..maybe there is going to be an arrest soon?

wait, this must have been last week right? I don't see a date on this article so must have been...


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 07:57:11 PM
Hmm. I just read Celina Cass Obituary.. It mentions Wendall Noyes.. Geeze even if he wasn't involved he was still a danger to the girls..IMO

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/CelinaCassObiturary.jpg)

Hi Jersey! Ya know, I'm kinda torn on Wendell. Alot of the family on both sides seem to stick up for him. The ones that aren't & have concentrated on the perp being Wendell or a RSO didn't even know Celina, never met her. The one guy that said he's Louisa's cousin, well he never even knew it & never met her, didn't even hear of her til this case. Wendell sure does seem hinky to me but so much of what that lady posted on that Help Find Celina profile has now been shown to be true. One of the things I remember her writing was that Wendell passed a poly but Kevin was brought back more than once for questioning. She said Kevin Mullaney was involved, either directly or as an insider that somebody trusted him with info. She posted about the river, the rocks or cement blocks, the blanket & a bag, also about his truck & Wendell's truck, plus something about pizza and that Kevin was seen out driving around real late at night that he can't account for. IMO, if Wendell is truly the perp, why would Kevin cover for him or help hide evidence? It's not like they go waaay back.

I know it's pretty easy to blame Wendell bc of his past but I'm just not completely sold on it yet. I think it's possible somebody else could have been using his facebook towards the end. Maybe Wendell used it at first but the other stuff doesn't seem to add up to me. At least not yet. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 07:58:53 PM
Snipped..

Around 2 p.m. on Wednesday,
Celina's mother, Louisa
Noyes, was brought into the
Command Center. She was
inside for almost two hours and
when she emerged, she was
clearly distraught and surrounded
by family and friends
who attempted to shield her
from a large amount of media
that were now on scene by
wrapping a large blanket
around her. The ambulance
had been called to pickup
Louisa on Tuesday evening
because she was having difficulty
breathing. She was subsequently
treated at the hospital
and released.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/July29.pdf

hmmm..maybe there is going to be an arrest soon?

wait, this must have been last week right? I don't see a date on this article so must have been...

Hi Cookie.. The article was printed on Jul 29th..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 08, 2011, 07:59:29 PM
thanks JG...good to see ya!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 08:02:29 PM
I'm going to fix supper .  Like I really want to cook in this 106 degree heat .  ugh.
It's my last hurrah before school starts next week.
The kitchen will be closed for a while after that .  hee.

That's my way of saying, I'll be back to help check out all those relatives of Tyler's and others.   ::MonkeyEek::
Tcumom,
Could this be Uncle Dean?  Remember Dan mentioned his Uncle Dean?  This is the third brother to Louisia.

REED, WAYNE DEAN (Age 51)

Associated names:

 REED, WAYNE D REED,  W
 WAYNE, REED
   Available(2)    Available    JEFFERSON, NH
LANCASTER, NH    Possible Relatives:

SCHOONER, VALERIE ANN (Age 48)
REED, VALERIE ANN (Age 48)

http://www.people-finders.ws/processor.asp


Oh, yes!  I forgot about him....yep, I am pretty sure that's who it is ! Don't you love people-finders?

I also noticed some Schooner surnames on some of the FBs. 

This is so tacky, but oh, well.  When I googled these folks, they actually seemed kind of run-of-the-mill.  Just your average, everyday citizen.   haha.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 08:02:35 PM
Snipped from Titch..

I dont know but they did take Wendall's and Kevin's vehicles..
I wish more parents be selective on who they are dating and living with when children are involved.. Then we have the girls given up their room and be place in the basement for sleeping quarters and on air mattresses.. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
Snipped Answer Titch..

I dont know but they did take Wendall's and Kevin's vehicles..
I wish more parents be selective on who they are dating and living with when children are involved.. Then we have the girls given up their room and be place in the basement for sleeping quarters and on air mattresses.. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 08:04:39 PM
thanks JG...good to see ya!

Hugs... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 08:19:44 PM
Snipped..

Around 2 p.m. on Wednesday,
Celina's mother, Louisa
Noyes, was brought into the
Command Center. She was
inside for almost two hours and
when she emerged, she was
clearly distraught and surrounded
by family and friends
who attempted to shield her
from a large amount of media
that were now on scene by
wrapping a large blanket
around her. The ambulance
had been called to pickup
Louisa on Tuesday evening
because she was having difficulty
breathing. She was subsequently
treated at the hospital
and released.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/July29.pdf

hmmm..maybe there is going to be an arrest soon?
Thank you for this post.  I didn't realize she was treated at the hospital AFTER being at the police station for almost 2 hours. 
interesting.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 08:25:57 PM
YW Seahorse..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 08:29:35 PM
Seahorse, you're great at finding genealogical links. That's awesome!

Did you read back yet? I posted a couple links on the Noyes surname history. Remember that offhanded comment about a big wall around the area? Hmmm...

Titch, Thanks for the compliment, but that was TCUmom's find, (the other day), I am sorry, I should have mentioned it.
I thought she would reconize her work. :)   


Dan C mentioned that his "Uncle Dean" was the papa, to Celina?  That can not be right, because we have the Obit and late
George, did not have a brother, only a sister.  If George went by the name Dean, that is another story.  Dan must be about
fifty?

Thanks. I will review the surname post, nice work. ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 08, 2011, 08:31:31 PM
Nick Noyes is interviewed about his missing step sister towards the end of the video.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/video-on-demand/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=6102836


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 08:33:51 PM
YW Seahorse..

JerseyGirl,

I do not know what I thanked you for, you must have ESP :)  What nice crisp and clear photos you posted, nice work
on Celina's "photos and media link"  thread. Thank-you for keeping us informed.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 08, 2011, 09:00:05 PM
Quote
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1459245#msg1459245
Her name is Paula Ladd Senneville. She forgot to put a comma after Wendell, but she's addressing Wendell Noyes on his Wall by asking him how he's doing.

Titch TY,4 of us cuz are tracking our trees,and i just ran across a canada
reference about 3wk ago for the Senneville, i was helping cuz,from this site
https://www.familysearch.org/

and today i was there and i looked at george, didnt find much
G cass, trying to fit his about birth year
George E Cass
https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/KTQ4-MW2/p1
George D Cass
https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/pal:/MM9.1.r/812C-H6Z/p1

no George Cass,found a.....Cass Emery, Mary M. [ Stinson ] 01/24/1928 78 Groveton, NH 03/23/2006
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~obitsindex/obits_nh_coos_01.htm
 
linked from and i havent looked all through here yet
http://www.nh.searchroots.com/coos.html
http://usgenweb.org/
http://www.usroots.com/usgwnhus/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 08, 2011, 09:04:44 PM
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Heather Shepa That is my Uncle Wendell's step daughter!
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Wow, has anyone heard about this Mike Green before??  I'm sorry this is so long.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 09:34:51 PM
Seahorse, you're great at finding genealogical links. That's awesome!

Did you read back yet? I posted a couple links on the Noyes surname history. Remember that offhanded comment about a big wall around the area? Hmmm...

Titch, Thanks for the compliment, but that was TCUmom's find, (the other day), I am sorry, I should have mentioned it.
I thought she would reconize her work. :)   


Dan C mentioned that his "Uncle Dean" was the papa, to Celina?  That can not be right, because we have the Obit and late
George, did not have a brother, only a sister.  If George went by the name Dean, that is another story.  Dan must be about
fifty?

Thanks. I will review the surname post, nice work. ::rhino::

Y'all are funny ~ actually, it's a miracle any of us know our own names with this 3-ring circus going on as to the family members/names.   :smt043


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 09:36:32 PM
YW Seahorse..

JerseyGirl,

I do not know what I thanked you for, you must have ESP :)  What nice crisp and clear photos you posted, nice work
on Celina's "photos and media link"  thread. Thank-you for keeping us informed.  ::rhino::

OMG.. LOL.. YW ..I see it was tcumom I should of said  YW... YW tcumom..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 09:45:39 PM
CANAAN, Vt. - An 11-year-old New Hampshire girl found dead last week is being remembered in a community celebration of her short life.

About 300 friends, acquaintances and family members packed into a steamy school gymnasium Monday night, toasting Celina Cass' memory in words, song and poetry.

http://www.newschief.com/article/20110808/APA/1108080943


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 09:49:00 PM

I believe MaryCat  informed us -the other day -similar to the contents of this article. 

http://www.berlindailysun.com/node/48855/18661  (August 27, 2007)

 KM was 19 years old (2007) he is 23, I was side-tracked by a FB poster, earlier.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 09:51:28 PM
Snipped..

Around 2 p.m. on Wednesday,
Celina's mother, Louisa
Noyes, was brought into the
Command Center. She was
inside for almost two hours and
when she emerged, she was
clearly distraught and surrounded
by family and friends
who attempted to shield her
from a large amount of media
that were now on scene by
wrapping a large blanket
around her. The ambulance
had been called to pickup
Louisa on Tuesday evening
because she was having difficulty
breathing. She was subsequently
treated at the hospital
and released.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/July29.pdf

hmmm..maybe there is going to be an arrest soon?

wait, this must have been last week right? I don't see a date on this article so must have been...

Hi Cookie.. The article was printed on Jul 29th..

Does anyone remember when the last time was that Louisia was photographed with either Wendell or Kevin?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2011, 09:54:45 PM
Seahorse, you're great at finding genealogical links. That's awesome!

Did you read back yet? I posted a couple links on the Noyes surname history. Remember that offhanded comment about a big wall around the area? Hmmm...

Titch, Thanks for the compliment, but that was TCUmom's find, (the other day), I am sorry, I should have mentioned it.
I thought she would reconize her work. :)   


Dan C mentioned that his "Uncle Dean" was the papa, to Celina?  That can not be right, because we have the Obit and late
George, did not have a brother, only a sister.  If George went by the name Dean, that is another story.  Dan must be about
fifty?

Thanks. I will review the surname post, nice work. ::rhino::

Y'all are funny ~ actually, it's a miracle any of us know our own names with this 3-ring circus going on as to the family members/names.   :smt043


         ::MonkeyHaHa:: Do you mean like Darryl, Darryl and Darryl?  ::MonkeyHaHa::











Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: grace-land on August 08, 2011, 10:00:51 PM
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20110808celina_cass_laid_to_rest/srvc=home&position=recent

Celina Cass laid to rest
By Associated Press
Monday, August 8, 2011

CANAAN, Vt. — Family members and friends are gathering to mourn the loss of a northern New Hampshire girl in the school gymnasium where she played basketball.

Eleven-year-old Celina Cass, whose body was found week ago in the Connecticut River, was laid to rest in a private ceremony in Lancaster on Monday

 ::snipping2::

------------------------

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/08/08/general-us-missing-girl-nh_8608929.html

Associated Press
NH girl found in river is recalled in words, songs
By JOHN CURRAN , 08.08.11, 09:27 PM EDT 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 10:01:02 PM
Celina Cass Article.. Dated August 5th, 2011..

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf

Snipped..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/CelinaCass-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 10:08:04 PM
snipped..

His son, Adam Laro, Jr., is
Kayla and Celina’s half brother.
He has been at his father’s side
during the search for Celina,
and Adam’s parents have also
been at his side.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 10:10:43 PM
snipped..

State troopers and the sheriff’s
department have been keeping
guard so that no one enters
what has now been called a
crime scene.
Armed with search
warrants, investigators have
been combing the property and
crime scene vans from both
New Hampshire and Vermont
have been stationed in the
driveway.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 10:15:19 PM
New
Hampshire, Massachusetts and
Virginia personnel, and even
Canadian Mounties came to
West Stewartstown to search
for Celina. Young would not
discuss if there are any persons
of interest who might have
knowledge of how Celina died.


http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 10:20:55 PM
snipped...

The story of Celina’s last
evening at home unfolded piece
by piece. At first, it was reported
that Celina was in her
bedroom on her computer when
her family said goodnight
around 9 p.m. Later, reports
stated that she and her older
sister, Kayla, had recently been
sleeping on an air mattress in
the basement.
It was also reported
that Celina’s pillow and
comforter were on the couch on
the last night she was seen
—as
she was afraid to sleep in the
basement without her sister,
who was at a sleepover at a
friend’s house, it was reported.
Celina was reported missing on
Tuesday morning. While her
family went out to search for
her, a neighbor called 9-1-1.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2011, 10:28:15 PM
Celina lived in an apartment
house next to the Spa Restaurant with her mother, Louisa
Noyes, her stepfather, Wendell
Noyes and her sister Kayla
Laro. (The Chronicle has obtained
some court orders regarding
Wendell Noyes’ criminal
history and it shows him as
signing his name each time as
“Wendall” in his own handwriting
with an a instead of an e—
but official documents spell it
“Wendell”). It was reported that
another person living in the
home, Kevin Mullaney, 23, is
the son of a former boyfriend of
Louisa Noyes. Kevin, who once
lived in Clarksville
, has a criminal
background, as does
Wendell. Kevin’s record reportedly
involved a burglary. Both
Kevin and Wendell’s vehicles
have been towed from the home
and are under investigation at
this time. However that does
not mean that authorities have
signaled them out as suspects.


http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 10:29:54 PM
Seahorse, you're great at finding genealogical links. That's awesome!
Did you read back yet? I posted a couple links on the Noyes surname history. Remember that offhanded comment about a big wall around the area? Hmmm...
Titch, Thanks for the compliment, but that was TCUmom's find, (the other day), I am sorry, I should have mentioned it.
I thought she would reconize her work. :)   


Dan C mentioned that his "Uncle Dean" was the papa, to Celina?  That can not be right, because we have the Obit and late
George, did not have a brother, only a sister.  If George went by the name Dean, that is another story.  Dan must be about
fifty?
Thanks. I will review the surname post, nice work. ::rhino::
Y'all are funny ~ actually, it's a miracle any of us know our own names with this 3-ring circus going on as to the family members/names.   :smt043

         ::MonkeyHaHa:: Do you mean like Darryl, Darryl and Darryl?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Love it.   ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 10:56:46 PM
I have a question for JerseyGirl345 (or anyone who knows the answer).  On the Documents and Social Network Thread, the fourth to the last photo of Celina and Kevin, are we sure that that's Kevin Mullaney?  TIA


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 11:07:10 PM
I have a question for JerseyGirl345 (or anyone who knows the answer).  On the Documents and Social Network Thread, the fourth to the last photo of Celina and Kevin, are we sure that that's Kevin Mullaney?  TIA

Patti ~ The one where Celina is in back of the guy? 

Celina had that photo on her FB page with Kevin's name under the photo.  I remembered it, 'cause later we started talking about him, and by then, her FB had been closed.

What are you thinking about it?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 11:09:40 PM
Seahorse, you're great at finding genealogical links. That's awesome!

Did you read back yet? I posted a couple links on the Noyes surname history. Remember that offhanded comment about a big wall around the area? Hmmm...

Titch, Thanks for the compliment, but that was TCUmom's find, (the other day), I am sorry, I should have mentioned it.
I thought she would reconize her work. :)   


Dan C mentioned that his "Uncle Dean" was the papa, to Celina?  That can not be right, because we have the Obit and late
George, did not have a brother, only a sister.  If George went by the name Dean, that is another story.  Dan must be about
fifty?

Thanks. I will review the surname post, nice work. ::rhino::

Y'all are funny ~ actually, it's a miracle any of us know our own names with this 3-ring circus going on as to the family members/names.   :smt043


         ::MonkeyHaHa:: Do you mean like Darryl, Darryl and Darryl?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Omg!  ::MonkeyJnBox::  I love Newhart reruns! Even my kids like it! They don't make shows like that anymore, stuff that's sometimes on the edge but not over so it can still be a family show, ya know?

I swear I get so confused going through these names!

Has anybody heard how Adam Laro is doing?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 11:14:30 PM
I have a question for JerseyGirl345 (or anyone who knows the answer).  On the Documents and Social Network Thread, the fourth to the last photo of Celina and Kevin, are we sure that that's Kevin Mullaney?  TIA

Patti ~ The one where Celina is in back of the guy? 

Celina had that photo on her FB page with Kevin's name under the photo.  I remembered it, 'cause later we started talking about him, and by then, her FB had been closed.

What are you thinking about it?

If you're talking about this photo, yes it's Kevin Mullaney. This is the pic that JerseyGirl posted. I took it from the social media thread...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/KevinMullaney.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 11:16:04 PM
Titch, Thanks for the compliment, but that was TCUmom's find, (the other day), I am sorry, I should have mentioned it.
I thought she would reconize her work. :)   


Dan C mentioned that his "Uncle Dean" was the papa, to Celina?  That can not be right, because we have the Obit and late
George, did not have a brother, only a sister.  If George went by the name Dean, that is another story.  Dan must be about
fifty?

Thanks. I will review the surname post, nice work. ::rhino::

Y'all are funny ~ actually, it's a miracle any of us know our own names with this 3-ring circus going on as to the family members/names.   :smt043


         ::MonkeyHaHa:: Do you mean like Darryl, Darryl and Darryl?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Omg!  ::MonkeyJnBox::  I love Newhart reruns! Even my kids like it! They don't make shows like that anymore, stuff that's sometimes on the edge but not over so it can still be a family show, ya know?

I swear I get so confused going through these names!

Has anybody heard how Adam Laro is doing?
Yes, too bad all (most) of the shows now are so edgy . . . the kids in class talk about some of them, and I'm appalled at the *stuff* in those shows.....and I'm not exactly Miss Prim and Proper.

On to Adam Laro ~ I've been scouring the internet news and found nothing.  You know, they're kind of the forgotten family.  Even when we're searching names, I have to consciously remember to look for Laro.   sad.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 08, 2011, 11:19:57 PM
Celina lived in an apartment
house next to the Spa Restaurant with her mother, Louisa
Noyes, her stepfather, Wendell
Noyes and her sister Kayla
Laro. (The Chronicle has obtained
some court orders regarding
Wendell Noyes’ criminal
history and it shows him as
signing his name each time as
“Wendall” in his own handwriting
with an a instead of an e—
but official documents spell it
“Wendell”). It was reported that
another person living in the
home, Kevin Mullaney, 23, is
the son of a former boyfriend of
Louisa Noyes. Kevin, who once
lived in Clarksville
, has a criminal
background, as does
Wendell. Kevin’s record reportedly
involved a burglary. Both
Kevin and Wendell’s vehicles
have been towed from the home
and are under investigation at
this time. However that does
not mean that authorities have
signaled them out as suspects.


http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf


Omg could he have maybe tried to pull a fast one? You know, like sex offenders sometimes try to write & print their names sloppy so the official docs end up mispelled so they won't link back to them? Or is that how it's really spelled? All the search engines list it with tge "e", including his own father's obituary.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 11:20:06 PM
This was posted on the internet about 30 minutes ago.

Not too long, but interesting.  Odd, Wendell was nowhere to be seen. oh brother.  ::MonkeyEek::

Shows a side view of Adam Laro with his mom.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110808/NEWS/708099985


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 11:23:42 PM
Celina lived in an apartment
house next to the Spa Restaurant with her mother, Louisa
Noyes, her stepfather, Wendell
Noyes and her sister Kayla
Laro. (The Chronicle has obtained
some court orders regarding
Wendell Noyes’ criminal
history and it shows him as
signing his name each time as
“Wendall” in his own handwriting
with an a instead of an e—
but official documents spell it
“Wendell”). It was reported that
another person living in the
home, Kevin Mullaney, 23, is
the son of a former boyfriend of
Louisa Noyes. Kevin, who once
lived in Clarksville
, has a criminal
background, as does
Wendell. Kevin’s record reportedly
involved a burglary. Both
Kevin and Wendell’s vehicles
have been towed from the home
and are under investigation at
this time. However that does
not mean that authorities have
signaled them out as suspects.


http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug5.pdf


Omg could he have maybe tried to pull a fast one? You know, like sex offenders sometimes try to write & print their names sloppy so the official docs end up mispelled so they won't link back to them? Or is that how it's really spelled? All the search engines list it with tge "e", including his own father's obituary.

I think you could very easily be right . . . is he bright enough to think that way?  Seriously.  The only other choice is he isn't sure how to spell his name.  Seriously, again. 
I have 8th graders who can't spell Texas (true), so who knows?

He is one slick dude. Whether he did this deed or not, he is disgusting.  :puker: :pukel:


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 11:30:42 PM
I have a question for JerseyGirl345 (or anyone who knows the answer).  On the Documents and Social Network Thread, the fourth to the last photo of Celina and Kevin, are we sure that that's Kevin Mullaney?  TIA

Patti ~ The one where Celina is in back of the guy? 

Celina had that photo on her FB page with Kevin's name under the photo.  I remembered it, 'cause later we started talking about him, and by then, her FB had been closed.

What are you thinking about it?





















































































































































































If you're talking about this photo, yes it's Kevin Mullaney. This is the pic that JerseyGirl posted. I took it from the social media thread...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/KevinMullaney.jpg)

Thanks.  I'm just amazed about how much they look alike.  I still believe that Louisia is his mother.  It's just so hard to believe that he would kill her yet I do believe that either Wendell or Kevin killed her.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 08, 2011, 11:32:17 PM
I wonder why that happens every time there's a picture involved.  Sorry - is there a link on this forum about posting photos? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 11:35:43 PM
I wonder why that happens every time there's a picture involved.  Sorry - is there a link on this forum about posting photos? 
Y'all are braver than I am . . I just post a link  . . I'm still trying to stay out of other's boxes, and trying to remember to keep the names straight.

YES!  I wonder about Kevin and Celina ~ they are so, so similar in looks.  Unfortunately, I think he could Very easily be involved.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 08, 2011, 11:38:23 PM
I have a question for JerseyGirl345 (or anyone who knows the answer).  On the Documents and Social Network Thread, the fourth to the last photo of Celina and Kevin, are we sure that that's Kevin Mullaney?  TIA

Patti ~ The one where Celina is in back of the guy? 

Celina had that photo on her FB page with Kevin's name under the photo.  I remembered it, 'cause later we started talking about him, and by then, her FB had been closed.

What are you thinking about it?





















































































































































































If you're talking about this photo, yes it's Kevin Mullaney. This is the pic that JerseyGirl posted. I took it from the social media thread...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/KevinMullaney.jpg)

Thanks.  I'm just amazed about how much they look alike.  I still believe that Louisia is his mother.  It's just so hard to believe that he would kill her yet I do believe that either Wendell or Kevin killed her.

Or could Kevin and Celina have the same father? Mark Mullaney.  It seems weird to me that she and Adam broke up when Celina was 3 months old and that she has the last name of Cass. Plus, she looks nothing like Kayla or Adam Jr. Just a thought.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 11:50:15 PM


If you're talking about this photo, yes it's Kevin Mullaney. This is the pic that JerseyGirl posted. I took it from the social media thread...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/KevinMullaney.jpg)

Thanks.  I'm just amazed about how much they look alike.  I still believe that Louisia is his mother.  It's just so hard to believe that he would kill her yet I do believe that either Wendell or Kevin killed her.

Or could Kevin and Celina have the same father? Mark Mullaney.  It seems weird to me that she and Adam broke up when Celina was 3 months old and that she has the last name of Cass. Plus, she looks nothing like Kayla or Adam Jr. Just a thought.
What do we know of Mark Mullaney?  Is he the same as Marc Mullaney?

Maybe she had a fling, got pregnant, pretended the baby was Adam's, he suspected the truth, and left after Celina was born, but still accepted and loved her as his daughter....

OMG ~ Too bad soap operas are biting the dust . . . I'm starting to think like one .  lol .  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 08, 2011, 11:53:38 PM
Well, Tyler Noyes just made his FB wall private.  drat.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 09, 2011, 12:14:30 AM
Well, Tyler Noyes just made his FB wall private.  drat.

Yep... Hmmm.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 09, 2011, 12:15:30 AM


If you're talking about this photo, yes it's Kevin Mullaney. This is the pic that JerseyGirl posted. I took it from the social media thread...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/KevinMullaney.jpg)

Thanks.  I'm just amazed about how much they look alike.  I still believe that Louisia is his mother.  It's just so hard to believe that he would kill her yet I do believe that either Wendell or Kevin killed her.

Or could Kevin and Celina have the same father? Mark Mullaney.  It seems weird to me that she and Adam broke up when Celina was 3 months old and that she has the last name of Cass. Plus, she looks nothing like Kayla or Adam Jr. Just a thought.
What do we know of Mark Mullaney?  Is he the same as Marc Mullaney?

Maybe she had a fling, got pregnant, pretended the baby was Adam's, he suspected the truth, and left after Celina was born, but still accepted and loved her as his daughter....

OMG ~ Too bad soap operas are biting the dust . . . I'm starting to think like one .  lol .  ::MonkeyHaHa::

They just look too much alike to not be related. I am thinking your soap opera scenario could be real in this case. I can see Adam being a stand in Dad - maybe he suspected, but has never known the truth or taken a paternity test.

Kevin looks like his brother, Paul. So does Celina. They also resemble Bill who I think is their uncle.

I don't know who Marc Mullaney is, but I saw a NEWJO newsletter that links Mark, Paul and Kevin as being together at a Jeep event in 2002. There is also a Sharon Abbott in attendance. She and Mark are riding in the same vehicle in a later story, same newsletter. Sharon Abbott is on Kevin's FB page and also on Bill's. Here is the link to the article:

http://www.newjo.org/NEWJO/newsletters/NEWJO_newsletter_v1_3.pdf

The total attendance for the day included: Tim Brown and Karen; Tim Wagner and Heidi; Mike Rizzo and Elizabeth; Tracie’s parents; my parents;
Cliff and Wendy Barstow; Don MacDermod; Shane, Jacob, and Savannah Beard; Nate Archer; Cory Ashe; Bill Larkin; Bruce, Sharon, and
Josh Abbott; Mark, Paul, and Kevin Mullaney; and Paul from Conway. Again, thanks for the great day and I look forward to many more years.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 12:28:44 AM

They just look too much alike to not be related. I am thinking your soap opera scenario could be real in this case. I can see Adam being a stand in Dad - maybe he suspected, but has never known the truth or taken a paternity test.

Kevin looks like his brother, Paul. So does Celina. They also resemble Bill who I think is their uncle.

I don't know who Marc Mullaney is, but I saw a NEWJO newsletter that links Mark, Paul and Kevin as being together at a Jeep event in 2002. There is also a Sharon Abbott in attendance. She and Mark are riding in the same vehicle in a later story, same newsletter. Sharon Abbott is on Kevin's FB page and also on Bill's. Here is the link to the article:

http://www.newjo.org/NEWJO/newsletters/NEWJO_newsletter_v1_3.pdf

The total attendance for the day included: Tim Brown and Karen; Tim Wagner and Heidi; Mike Rizzo and Elizabeth; Tracie’s parents; my parents;
Cliff and Wendy Barstow; Don MacDermod; Shane, Jacob, and Savannah Beard; Nate Archer; Cory Ashe; Bill Larkin; Bruce, Sharon, and
Josh Abbott; Mark, Paul, and Kevin Mullaney; and Paul from Conway. Again, thanks for the great day and I look forward to many more years.

Is Mark definitely the father? 
What do y'all think?

And, I do think it's odd that Tyler Noyes suddenly shut down his FB wall after Celina's memorial this evening.  Not saying it's related, but the timing is interesting. 

I think he might have actually admired Wendell.   gagging as I write that. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 09, 2011, 12:32:17 AM
Thank you everybody for everything you're all posting.

Kippy, that post was interesting!

Eyes...are...closing...seriously...


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 01:22:38 AM
Family, friends say farewell to Celina Cass -

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/09/family_friends_say_farewell_to_celina_cass/


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 09, 2011, 05:24:04 AM
Kevin and Celina look alot alike especially their features.. Could be why Louisa took him in..Would explain the buzzard talk of why take in an ex boyfriend son who has has a criminal past into her home also Celina's last name being different ... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 09, 2011, 07:13:14 AM
Good morning Monkey's

CW618 ::HelloKitty::

Genealogy:

Historical Societies are sometimes, (not always) a good source. 

Libraries sometimes have genealogy, on-line look-ups, I have not be successful, yet, with NH.

Town Hall's?  A saintly person, retrieved information for me from a Town Hall (free of charge), I do not know if all T.H.
have accessibility to information or look-up's.


 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 09, 2011, 07:17:15 AM
CW618  & Monkey's


http://www.familytreelegends.com/records  (mostly southern records).


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 08:21:33 AM
Happy Tuesday to all monkeys!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 08:22:49 AM
CW618  & Monkey's


http://www.familytreelegends.com/records  (mostly southern records).
I just checked this out ~ looks pretty cool ~ is it a new website?  Not like I know all the family history sites, but I've never heard of it.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 11:04:18 AM
Below is a link to the video (with comments) of the remembrance service at the school last night.
It is heartbreaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4oen71ZQxo&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 09, 2011, 11:37:55 AM
CW618  & Monkey's


http://www.familytreelegends.com/records  (mostly southern records).
I just checked this out ~ looks pretty cool ~ is it a new website?  Not like I know all the family history sites, but I've never heard of it.  ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning monkey's,
   Tcumom, Yes :) found it last year.

http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usa/NH/Coos/  There is a place to look for family trees,  IDK if Cass has a tree or not

 ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 02:36:00 PM
Tears at memorial for Celina Cass, 11, as the search for answers continues

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024156/Celina-Cass-memorial-The-search-answers-continues.html

I think that Celina, Kayla and Kevin all look like Louisia.  They all have the same prominent top overbite of their teeth.  Celina and Kevin look almost identical and even though Kayla has different coloring, I think she still looks them.  Neither Celina nor Kayla look like Adam. 

This is what leads me to believe that Kevin is Louisia's child even though she might have given him the same last name as his father.  It probably also contributed to him living with them.

If you notice, Adam Jr. looks like his father.  Adam, Sr. has stated that both Celina and Kayla are his children but never mentions Kevin.

This has been twirling in my had for quite some time because it bothers me to think that if they have the same parent he would still do something to harm her.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 09, 2011, 03:03:35 PM
Tears at memorial for Celina Cass, 11, as the search for answers continues

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024156/Celina-Cass-memorial-The-search-answers-continues.html

I think that Celina, Kayla and Kevin all look like Louisia.  They all have the same prominent top overbite of their teeth.  Celina and Kevin look almost identical and even though Kayla has different coloring, I think she still looks them.  Neither Celina nor Kayla look like Adam. 

This is what leads me to believe that Kevin is Louisia's child even though she might have given him the same last name as his father.  It probably also contributed to him living with them.

If you notice, Adam Jr. looks like his father.  Adam, Sr. has stated that both Celina and Kayla are his children but never mentions Kevin.
This has been twirling in my had for quite some time because it bothers me to think that if they have the same parent he would still do something to harm her.



This has bothered me too, Pattianne.  I am surprised it took so long for us to address the uncomfortable silence AL has
towards KM.  He knows something, IMO. He has great self control over his mouth, IDK, how men do it! :)



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 04:06:05 PM
I'm not positive, but I think this is Wendell G. Noyes' ex-wife, for anyone interested. 

Denise Cotnoir Noyes Skidgel

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000019221864


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 04:28:37 PM
Hit the jackpot, I think.  ::MonkeyDance::

This is the obituary of Gordon Noyes.
It lists entire family (except for names of grandkids) and clears up *some* of how the Noyes names are related.

Have to link it, because it is in family tree groupsheet form.

Wendell is right there!

http://www.noyesgenealogy.net/getperson.php?personID=I44572&tree=noyes


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 09, 2011, 05:36:14 PM
I'm not positive, but I think this is Wendell G. Noyes' ex-wife, for anyone interested. 

Denise Cotnoir Noyes Skidgel

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000019221864

Good evening Monkey's,

  ::MonkeyHaHa:: You are the our monkey genealogist    ::MonkeyHaHa::

     http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1226329710934


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 09, 2011, 05:40:25 PM
Hit the jackpot, I think.  ::MonkeyDance::

This is the obituary of Gordon Noyes.
It lists entire family (except for names of grandkids) and clears up *some* of how the Noyes names are related.

Have to link it, because it is in family tree groupsheet form.

Wendell is right there!

http://www.noyesgenealogy.net/getperson.php?personID=I44572&tree=noyes


I checked it out, tcumom, nice red web site, good job at digging.

 ::MonkeyShovel::

When you return to school you can teach a class in genealogy :)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 05:43:46 PM
I checked it out, tcumom, nice red web site, good job at digging.

 ::MonkeyShovel::

When you return to school you can teach a class in genealogy :)

Don't I wish ~ I kept taking *breaks* today from working on my lesson plans for the fall semester . . . my reward was searching for that pesky Wendell !  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 06:00:24 PM
I checked it out, tcumom, nice red web site, good job at digging.

 ::MonkeyShovel::

When you return to school you can teach a class in genealogy :)

Don't I wish ~ I kept taking *breaks* today from working on my lesson plans for the fall semester . . . my reward was searching for that pesky Wendell !  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 06:03:51 PM
I checked it out, tcumom, nice red web site, good job at digging.

 ::MonkeyShovel::

When you return to school you can teach a class in genealogy :)

Don't I wish ~ I kept taking *breaks* today from working on my lesson plans for the fall semester . . . my reward was searching for that pesky Wendell !  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Great job tcumom.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 06:13:27 PM

Great job tcumom.

Patti ~ Thanks.  I've been doing research for waaayyy too many years to admit! 
I enjoy it so much. 
If only the reason for this research was for fun.

I have a feeling Wendell was the blacksheep of that generation....not that we don't all have them....just not to his extent.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 09, 2011, 07:04:02 PM
Denise G Skidgel
Denise Noyes
Colebrook, NH
Dixville Notch, NH
Dixville, NH
intelius.com
intelius.com
intelius.com
Dusty Lee Skidgel
Wendell G Noyes
Christophe J Noyes

Christopher must be WN's son but who does Nick belong to


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 07:25:01 PM
Now the link for Denise Cotnoir Noyes Skidgel is down.  Is anyone related to the Noyes taking their facebook pages down?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 09, 2011, 07:30:36 PM
Locals Gather To Honor Life Of Celina Cass..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/LouisaCass2.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 09, 2011, 07:31:27 PM
I forgot to post the link...

Locals Gather To Honor Life Of Celina Cass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq9mxzv-l3I&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 09, 2011, 07:41:09 PM
Community Holds Memorial Service For 11-Year-Old Celina Cass ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3NxK8htfB8&feature=player_embedded

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/CommunityholdsMemorialService.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 07:47:49 PM
Denise G Skidgel
Denise Noyes
Colebrook, NH
Dixville Notch, NH
Dixville, NH
intelius.com
intelius.com
intelius.com
Dusty Lee Skidgel
Wendell G Noyes
Christophe J Noyes

Christopher must be WN's son but who does Nick belong to

I believe Nick is a younger (than Christopher) son of Wendell and Denise .
Dusty Skidgel had some comment on his FB wall where Nick wrote "don't tell Mom".....they were joking about something....


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 07:49:08 PM
Now the link for Denise Cotnoir Noyes Skidgel is down.  Is anyone related to the Noyes taking their facebook pages down?

This is really interesting .

I was looking at it earlier this afternoon.  I wonder if her husband's FB is down.  Dusty Skidgel.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 09, 2011, 07:58:11 PM
Tears at memorial for Celina Cass, 11, as the search for answers continues

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024156/Celina-Cass-memorial-The-search-answers-continues.html

I think that Celina, Kayla and Kevin all look like Louisia.  They all have the same prominent top overbite of their teeth.  Celina and Kevin look almost identical and even though Kayla has different coloring, I think she still looks them.  Neither Celina nor Kayla look like Adam. 

This is what leads me to believe that Kevin is Louisia's child even though she might have given him the same last name as his father.  It probably also contributed to him living with them.

If you notice, Adam Jr. looks like his father.  Adam, Sr. has stated that both Celina and Kayla are his children but never mentions Kevin.

This has been twirling in my had for quite some time because it bothers me to think that if they have the same parent he would still do something to harm her.


I think that Adam jr and Kayla look very much alike. 

Adam is a half brother..not full brother... per the Chronicle articles..and that makes sense.

I do admit there is a strong resemblance between Kevin and Celina..perhaps he is also her half brother. 

I don't see how that helps solve the murder though.  Meaning the relationships are what they are..we need to know what went on and who is responsible.  We know Adam jr wasn't in the house at the time.  We know her sister wasn't in the house at the time.  We know 3 people who should have been in the house..Kouisa, Wendall and Kevin.  But that's all we know. 

Who rented the upper floors?  Did Kevin have others over that night..did other people in the building have others over that night?

Did everyone in town know that the girls slept in the basement?  Was that side door locked..was the front door locked?   Who else in town might have known she slept on the couch when her sissy was away? 

What we need to know is who Celena was in contact with that night.  Certainly family in the house is always the first to look at.  Then we have to ask why Celina would have been murdered by either her family and friends?  What happened between 9 pm Monday 7/25 and 8 am 7/26?  And why..who among those contacts would want to murder her..she is only 11 years old..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 09, 2011, 08:02:16 PM

Great job tcumom.

Patti ~ Thanks.  I've been doing research for waaayyy too many years to admit! 
I enjoy it so much. 
If only the reason for this research was for fun.

I have a feeling Wendell was the blacksheep of that generation....not that we don't all have them....just not to his extent.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Hi monkey's,

A couple links for Vermont and NH - not fully loaded.
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&region=NORTH_AMERICA
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 09, 2011, 08:07:12 PM
What is nice (sometimes) www.findagrave.com, occasionally, obits, not too often.  I am a member of find
findagrave.com, for a few years now.  I asked a wonderful volunteer, if she would take my gr-grandfathers grave, she
did, and took photos of all the kin folks, just for kindness. ::MonkeyAngel::

P.S. it is free to register,



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 08:25:07 PM
What is nice (sometimes) www.findagrave.com, occasionally, obits, not too often.  I am a member of find
findagrave.com, for a few years now.  I asked a wonderful volunteer, if she would take my gr-grandfathers grave, she
did, and took photos of all the kin folks, just for kindness. ::MonkeyAngel::

P.S. it is free to register,

How cool !!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 08:32:06 PM

I think that Adam jr and Kayla look very much alike. 

Adam is a half brother..not full brother... per the Chronicle articles..and that makes sense.

I do admit there is a strong resemblance between Kevin and Celina..perhaps he is also her half brother. 

I don't see how that helps solve the murder though.  Meaning the relationships are what they are..we need to know what went on and who is responsible.  We know Adam jr wasn't in the house at the time.  We know her sister wasn't in the house at the time.  We know 3 people who should have been in the house..Kouisa, Wendall and Kevin.  But that's all we know. 

Who rented the upper floors?  Did Kevin have others over that night..did other people in the building have others over that night?

Did everyone in town know that the girls slept in the basement?  Was that side door locked..was the front door locked?   Who else in town might have known she slept on the couch when her sissy was away? 

What we need to know is who Celena was in contact with that night.  Certainly family in the house is always the first to look at.  Then we have to ask why Celina would have been murdered by either her family and friends?  What happened between 9 pm Monday 7/25 and 8 am 7/26?  And why..who among those contacts would want to murder her..she is only 11 years old..

I understand what you're saying about the family relationships.  You're right.  It won't solve the crime.

For myself, I guess the family background *is* something we can try to figure out . . . something we can do while waiting to hear some news.

Unfortunately, again just speaking for myself, none of the questions you've asked pertaining to the crime itself, have answers (that I'm aware of) and I'm on pins and needles waiting for news.

I didn't explain myself well, but I hope you got the jist of it.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 09, 2011, 09:34:45 PM
What I am saying is..this crime..and my dear friend Blink will get this..will only be sovled by "boots on the ground".

Meaning the family relationships are what they are..we can approve, disapprove..stand in between..but the point is..up until that murder..as far as we know..there was not one onunce of murder in either of Wendall's or Kevin's past.  Not ounce of either of them going up against the system other then Wendall being mentally ill and Kevin stealing cars. 

I am not saying either of these two are innocent of the crime..but this crime would mean both had jumped to a different level.  And that happens a lot..Casey A for instance.  Criminal if ever there was one..but unless you knew her the way her family did there wasn't anything there to suggest this would happen.  After the fact we find she was a lousy mother..still many lousy mothers don't have enough ambition to murder their children..but she did.  I use the word ambition because to carry out her crime that's what it took..ambition.  That wasn't a once and done....that was a vendetta against her child and family.

This is an 11 year old girl who was murdered.  Was it an accident, was it an overdose to seduce her, was it to keep her quiet about things she saw, to keep her quiet about things that happened with her that night?  We don't know..and that's why only boots on the ground will solve this case.  Someone other then the perp knows somethings we don't about what went on in that building..not just her apartment.  The whole building is sealed..not just the first floor and basement...and no one here has mentioned that fact.  The apartment above her's was vacant..is that where the crime took place..or the basement..or was she taken from that couch out into the night against her will but with someone she knew?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 10:08:11 PM
Tears at memorial for Celina Cass, 11, as the search for answers continues

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024156/Celina-Cass-memorial-The-search-answers-continues.html

I think that Celina, Kayla and Kevin all look like Louisia.  They all have the same prominent top overbite of their teeth.  Celina and Kevin look almost identical and even though Kayla has different coloring, I think she still looks them.  Neither Celina nor Kayla look like Adam. 

This is what leads me to believe that Kevin is Louisia's child even though she might have given him the same last name as his father.  It probably also contributed to him living with them.

If you notice, Adam Jr. looks like his father.  Adam, Sr. has stated that both Celina and Kayla are his children but never mentions Kevin.

This has been twirling in my had for quite some time because it bothers me to think that if they have the same parent he would still do something to harm her.


I think that Adam jr and Kayla look very much alike. 

Adam is a half brother..not full brother... per the Chronicle articles..and that makes sense.

I do admit there is a strong resemblance between Kevin and Celina..perhaps he is also her half brother. 

I don't see how that helps solve the murder though.  Meaning the relationships are what they are..we need to know what went on and who is responsible.  We know Adam jr wasn't in the house at the time.  We know her sister wasn't in the house at the time.  We know 3 people who should have been in the house..Kouisa, Wendall and Kevin.  But that's all we know. 

Who rented the upper floors?  Did Kevin have others over that night..did other people in the building have others over that night?

Did everyone in town know that the girls slept in the basement?  Was that side door locked..was the front door locked?   Who else in town might have known she slept on the couch when her sissy was away? 

What we need to know is who Celena was in contact with that night.  Certainly family in the house is always the first to look at.  Then we have to ask why Celina would have been murdered by either her family and friends?  What happened between 9 pm Monday 7/25 and 8 am 7/26?  And why..who among those contacts would want to murder her..she is only 11 years old..


tcumom, I know what you are saying about waiting for information.  That's really a puzzle for me.  Nothing, zero, nada, zilch is being released about this case and it is very frustrating.  Even Nancy Grace, who I sometimes force myself to watch because she's great on knowing the facts of the case, has not been covering it.  There's nothing new to report, that's for sure, but Nancy Grace keeps certain cases in the public eye.  I find it puzzling that she's not even covering it.

But Gypsy DD, I agree with you 100%.  I don't see anyone in the extended families being involved whatsoever.  Even though it was helpful to find out that Wendell is a pervert and Kevin has been in trouble before (I don't trust either of them) I'm only interested in the family dynamics of Louisia, Wendell, Celina, Kayla and Kevin.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone was in custody already or at the very least, being watched and questioned daily.  The bad part is that I don't think anything will happen with this case until an arrest is announced and I don't think that will happen until after the toxicology report comes back.  Again, I think LE knows but want to build a solid case.   


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 09, 2011, 10:14:54 PM
Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Celina cass pam you don't know who i am? you use to come to my house with adam and little adam all the time. you were at my wedding were adam jump in the pool with all his coths on walet and every thing.
Saturday at 11:27am

Celina cass i can't get over how big little adam is. he's biger than all of you really tall and so hansome. you must be so proud of him. you fixen to be grandma!!!!!!! lol you so old .
Saturday at 11:33am

Celina cass go to my page and you will see my babys
Saturday at 11:34am

Pam Villeneuve i'm not sure know we were over roger and lees all the time. I really am having a mind blank here lol yes we r going to be proud grandparents cant wait He s a handsome big boy for sure
Saturday at 3:00pm

Celina cass wow i don't know what to say you were at my wedding. o well guess i am not rememerbale!!!!!
Saturday at 4:53pm

Pam Villeneuve message me
Saturday at 9:48pm

Pam Villeneuve Is it brenda
Yesterday at 9:39pm

Celina cass ya
Yesterday at 9:51pm


Found this on fb..Pam Villeneuve is Adams mom and big Adams ex-wife.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 09, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
Celina cass my name is brenda i'm his cusin
August 4 at 4:35pm

Celina cass brenda gaffney
August 4 at 4:35pm

Lori Ramalho Hi Brenda! My name is Lori (as you can tell from my page) I will be sending a donation and would love to ensure that it goes to Adam. If its possible will someone please let me know how to do that? I am praying for you and your family. I am a psychic medium, if you need help that way too.
August 4 at 7:16pm

Celina cass the donation are set up with bank and we the other family try to get more help for her. but if you know aneythink about her mom that would speak for itself!!!!!!! yes her mom suck we tryed to get to dentests, doctors and so on. her dad has been in and out of hospital with heart problems he was in coma when this happened!!!!!!!!!!! people have given money to the mom and yes she did spend it on herself that why the bank is now in charge. also celina's little sis was taken from the home and will NO LONGER EVER LIVE WITH THEM!!!!!! she will be with her dad and older brother...her dad dose NOT HAVE A CRIMANAL RECORD!!!!!!!!!! yes he dose need help with him beeing sick and wanting to give her a nice service. thank!!!!!!
August 5 at 11:07am ·



Wow!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 10:48:53 PM
Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Celina cass pam you don't know who i am? you use to come to my house with adam and little adam all the time. you were at my wedding were adam jump in the pool with all his coths on walet and every thing.
Saturday at 11:27am

Celina cass i can't get over how big little adam is. he's biger than all of you really tall and so hansome. you must be so proud of him. you fixen to be grandma!!!!!!! lol you so old .
Saturday at 11:33am

Celina cass go to my page and you will see my babys
Saturday at 11:34am

Pam Villeneuve i'm not sure know we were over roger and lees all the time. I really am having a mind blank here lol yes we r going to be proud grandparents cant wait He s a handsome big boy for sure
Saturday at 3:00pm

Celina cass wow i don't know what to say you were at my wedding. o well guess i am not rememerbale!!!!!
Saturday at 4:53pm

Pam Villeneuve message me
Saturday at 9:48pm

Pam Villeneuve Is it brenda
Yesterday at 9:39pm

Celina cass ya
Yesterday at 9:51pm


Found this on fb..Pam Villeneuve is Adams mom and big Adams ex-wife.



kippy, I'm curious how you got this since her Wall is blocked.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
Forgot to add that I can think of no other reason to kill an eleven year old child other than a sexual molestation.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 10:56:40 PM
Forgot to add that I can think of no other reason to kill an eleven year old child other than a sexual molestation.
I agree.

It's a shame we have no information to go on.
At least with Natalee and Caylee, we had times, names, dates.  We have nothing here, and I'm afraid this will go by the wayside....shades of Lauren Speirer, just to name one.   so sad.

If only we had an answer to even one of the questions we keep asking.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Amys Sister on August 09, 2011, 11:01:47 PM
Wendell and Kevin not in attendance at the memorial or the parade is a pretty big statement.  Strong indications of not only guilt but that others in the know (ie... friends and family) see them as guilty.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 09, 2011, 11:05:00 PM
Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Celina cass pam you don't know who i am? you use to come to my house with adam and little adam all the time. you were at my wedding were adam jump in the pool with all his coths on walet and every thing.
Saturday at 11:27am

Celina cass i can't get over how big little adam is. he's biger than all of you really tall and so hansome. you must be so proud of him. you fixen to be grandma!!!!!!! lol you so old .
Saturday at 11:33am

Celina cass go to my page and you will see my babys
Saturday at 11:34am

Pam Villeneuve i'm not sure know we were over roger and lees all the time. I really am having a mind blank here lol yes we r going to be proud grandparents cant wait He s a handsome big boy for sure
Saturday at 3:00pm

Celina cass wow i don't know what to say you were at my wedding. o well guess i am not rememerbale!!!!!
Saturday at 4:53pm

Pam Villeneuve message me
Saturday at 9:48pm

Pam Villeneuve Is it brenda
Yesterday at 9:39pm

Celina cass ya
Yesterday at 9:51pm


Found this on fb..Pam Villeneuve is Adams mom and big Adams ex-wife.



kippy, I'm curious how you got this since her Wall is blocked.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends)


I don't know how to past the fb link. It's  a support page called Celina Cass and is the one with 52 members.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
Wendell and Kevin not in attendance at the memorial or the parade is a pretty big statement.  Strong indications of not only guilt but that others in the know (ie... friends and family) see them as guilty.

I've noticed several Noyes FB accounts being made almost completely private, some having the avatar pic removed, too.

Guessing they are distancing and/or circling the wagons.   ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 09, 2011, 11:14:53 PM
Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Celina cass pam you don't know who i am? you use to come to my house with adam and little adam all the time. you were at my wedding were adam jump in the pool with all his coths on walet and every thing.
Saturday at 11:27am

Celina cass i can't get over how big little adam is. he's biger than all of you really tall and so hansome. you must be so proud of him. you fixen to be grandma!!!!!!! lol you so old .
Saturday at 11:33am

Celina cass go to my page and you will see my babys
Saturday at 11:34am

Pam Villeneuve i'm not sure know we were over roger and lees all the time. I really am having a mind blank here lol yes we r going to be proud grandparents cant wait He s a handsome big boy for sure
Saturday at 3:00pm

Celina cass wow i don't know what to say you were at my wedding. o well guess i am not rememerbale!!!!!
Saturday at 4:53pm

Pam Villeneuve message me
Saturday at 9:48pm

Pam Villeneuve Is it brenda
Yesterday at 9:39pm

Celina cass ya
Yesterday at 9:51pm


Found this on fb..Pam Villeneuve is Adams mom and big Adams ex-wife.



kippy, I'm curious how you got this since her Wall is blocked.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends)


i dont FB,but i think u have to be on a list,so whos using cc FB


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Amys Sister on August 09, 2011, 11:15:56 PM
Wendell and Kevin not in attendance at the memorial or the parade is a pretty big statement.  Strong indications of not only guilt but that others in the know (ie... friends and family) see them as guilty.

I've noticed several Noyes FB accounts being made almost completely private, some having the avatar pic removed, too.

Guessing they are distancing and/or circling the wagons.   ::MonkeyShocked::



Yes, there's that also.

Louisia choosing to attend without her husband speaks loud and clear.

Hopefully, it's only a matter of time... maybe the toxicology reports are all LE needs to finish telling the story of what happened that night.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 09, 2011, 11:23:11 PM
Wendell and Kevin not in attendance at the memorial or the parade is a pretty big statement.  Strong indications of not only guilt but that others in the know (ie... friends and family) see them as guilty.

I've noticed several Noyes FB accounts being made almost completely private, some having the avatar pic removed, too.

Guessing they are distancing and/or circling the wagons.   ::MonkeyShocked::



Yes, there's that also.

Louisia choosing to attend without her husband speaks loud and clear.

Hopefully, it's only a matter of time... maybe the toxicology reports are all LE needs to finish telling the story of what happened that night.



I can see Wendell not being there since he's hiding his butt in a mental institution planning a defense already.  But why not Kevin.  He lived in the freakin house with Celina for God's sake and is a half brother so by in the world wasn't he there?  That's right off the meter to me.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 09, 2011, 11:26:39 PM
Wendell and Kevin not in attendance at the memorial or the parade is a pretty big statement.  Strong indications of not only guilt but that others in the know (ie... friends and family) see them as guilty.

I've noticed several Noyes FB accounts being made almost completely private, some having the avatar pic removed, too.

Guessing they are distancing and/or circling the wagons.   ::MonkeyShocked::



Yes, there's that also.

Louisia choosing to attend without her husband speaks loud and clear.

Hopefully, it's only a matter of time... maybe the toxicology reports are all LE needs to finish telling the story of what happened that night.



I can see Wendell not being there since he's hiding his butt in a mental institution planning a defense already.  But why not Kevin.  He lived in the freakin house with Celina for God's sake and is a half brother so by in the world wasn't he there?  That's right off the meter to me.

We haven't heard a peep as to where Kevin is ......I hope the authorities are keeping an eye on him.

The rumor that he had taken cinderblocks and chains (stolen) from his former (?) employer.....does anyone know where he worked?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 10, 2011, 08:06:14 AM
Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Celina cass pam you don't know who i am? you use to come to my house with adam and little adam all the time. you were at my wedding were adam jump in the pool with all his coths on walet and every thing.
Saturday at 11:27am

Celina cass i can't get over how big little adam is. he's biger than all of you really tall and so hansome. you must be so proud of him. you fixen to be grandma!!!!!!! lol you so old .
Saturday at 11:33am

Celina cass go to my page and you will see my babys
Saturday at 11:34am

Pam Villeneuve i'm not sure know we were over roger and lees all the time. I really am having a mind blank here lol yes we r going to be proud grandparents cant wait He s a handsome big boy for sure
Saturday at 3:00pm

Celina cass wow i don't know what to say you were at my wedding. o well guess i am not rememerbale!!!!!
Saturday at 4:53pm

Pam Villeneuve message me
Saturday at 9:48pm

Pam Villeneuve Is it brenda
Yesterday at 9:39pm

Celina cass ya
Yesterday at 9:51pm


Found this on fb..Pam Villeneuve is Adams mom and big Adams ex-wife.



kippy, I'm curious how you got this since her Wall is blocked.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends)


i dont FB,but i think u have to be on a list,so whos using cc FB

I found the Celina FB page this came from.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Celina-cass/146429868772815


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 10, 2011, 09:00:19 AM
snipped from for space
Quote
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1459857#msg1459857
kippy
Found this on fb..Pam Villeneuve is Adams mom and big Adams ex-wife.
----
pattianne
kippy, I'm curious how you got this since her Wall is blocked.
=====
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends
----
cw618
i dont FB,but i think u have to be on a list,so whos using cc FB
====
melisb
I found the Celina FB page this came from.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Celina-cass/146429868772815


i see the answer now someone is using a FB pg in celina name not her/celina FB pg
wonder why its not named memory of,support of,or something other than Celina cass
from the pg melisb found
 
Pam Villeneuve
 Who may i ask is running this page under Celina's name?
August 5 at 7:31pm · Like · Comment
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Celina-cass/146429868772815


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 10, 2011, 10:53:19 AM
I am still wondering besides the family members and Louisa's sister and neice..who were the other occupants of that apartment house?  What did they hear..what did they see?

Did this happen at the house?  If so it would almost have had to have been a drug overdose..or she would have been incompacitated in some way..she was a tall young lady for 11 years old.  I would think someone trying to harm her in the middle of the night would have had her kicking and screaming..unless she was drugged or somehow physically restrained.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 10, 2011, 10:57:28 AM
I didn't mean with the drug overdose that Celina willing took the drugs..I meant more like someone slipped something into a soda..like a date rape drug..and it all went downhill from there.  But neither Wendall nor Kevin seem to have a history of drug use...other then medications Wendall may have been prescribed.  Of course no history of drug use could just mean they hadn't been caught yet.

Someone incampacitated her..I feel certain because she is a tall young lady for her age..I just can't see her not putting up a fight unless she physically couldn't.  And I can't see her putting up a fight and no one in the house hearing or seeing anything.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 10, 2011, 10:58:34 AM
Pardon my spelling..meant to hit spell check first and did not.

And hey..good morning Monkeys.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 10, 2011, 11:18:38 AM
I didn't mean with the drug overdose that Celina willing took the drugs..I meant more like someone slipped something into a soda..like a date rape drug..and it all went downhill from there.  But neither Wendall nor Kevin seem to have a history of drug use...other then medications Wendall may have been prescribed.  Of course no history of drug use could just mean they hadn't been caught yet.

Someone incampacitated her..I feel certain because she is a tall young lady for her age..I just can't see her not putting up a fight unless she physically couldn't.  And I can't see her putting up a fight and no one in the house hearing or seeing anything.

i agree,or she knew the perp and left willing


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 10, 2011, 11:28:54 AM
Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Pam Villeneuve I am little adams mom and big adams ex wife, ok I understand majority of the services will be taken care of
Saturday at 10:12am

Celina cass pam you don't know who i am? you use to come to my house with adam and little adam all the time. you were at my wedding were adam jump in the pool with all his coths on walet and every thing.
Saturday at 11:27am

Celina cass i can't get over how big little adam is. he's biger than all of you really tall and so hansome. you must be so proud of him. you fixen to be grandma!!!!!!! lol you so old .
Saturday at 11:33am

Celina cass go to my page and you will see my babys
Saturday at 11:34am

Pam Villeneuve i'm not sure know we were over roger and lees all the time. I really am having a mind blank here lol yes we r going to be proud grandparents cant wait He s a handsome big boy for sure
Saturday at 3:00pm

Celina cass wow i don't know what to say you were at my wedding. o well guess i am not rememerbale!!!!!
Saturday at 4:53pm

Pam Villeneuve message me
Saturday at 9:48pm

Pam Villeneuve Is it brenda
Yesterday at 9:39pm

Celina cass ya
Yesterday at 9:51pm


Found this on fb..Pam Villeneuve is Adams mom and big Adams ex-wife.



kippy, I'm curious how you got this since her Wall is blocked.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends)


i dont FB,but i think u have to be on a list,so whos using cc FB

I have Facebook and I had no trouble finding her.  Here's her link -

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766)

The problem is you can block your Wall (which is where you write things) which she had done.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 10, 2011, 11:45:59 AM
snipped from for space
Quote
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1459857#msg1459857
kippy
Found this on fb..Pam Villeneuve is Adams mom and big Adams ex-wife.
----
pattianne
kippy, I'm curious how you got this since her Wall is blocked.
=====
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000418610766&sk=friends&v=friends
----
cw618
i dont FB,but i think u have to be on a list,so whos using cc FB
====
melisb
I found the Celina FB page this came from.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Celina-cass/146429868772815


i see the answer now someone is using a FB pg in celina name not her/celina FB pg
wonder why its not named memory of,support of,or something other than Celina cass
from the pg melisb found
 
Pam Villeneuve
 Who may i ask is running this page under Celina's name?
August 5 at 7:31pm · Like · Comment
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Celina-cass/146429868772815

Thank you.  So it sounds like Adam's side of the family was asking for donations for the memorial and funeral.  That's what I take from it.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 10, 2011, 12:44:21 PM
Walter Laro, Adam's father, is the man who set up the donation fund -

Celina cass
any donation for celina send to adam laro care of walter laro columbia nh 03576 god bless all of you!!!!!
August 4 at 10:15am

    2 people like this.
        Lori Ramalho what is the address to send donations to? I know it's Columbia but where????
        August 4 at 4:21pm

Since I'm on the Celina Cass community page, I don't understand why the woman who is running the page posted this -

Celina cass the donation are set up with bank and we the other family try to get more help for her. but if you know aneythink about her mom that would speak for itself!!!!!!! yes her mom suck we tryed to get to dentests, doctors and so on. her dad has been in and out of hospital with heart problems he was in coma when this happened!!!!!!!!!!! people have given money to the mom and yes she did spend it on herself that why the bank is now in charge. also celina's little sis was taken from the home and will NO LONGER EVER LIVE WITH THEM!!!!!! she will be with her dad and older brother...her dad dose NOT HAVE A CRIMANAL RECORD!!!!!!!!!! yes he dose need help with him beeing sick and wanting to give her a nice service. thank!!!!!!
August 5 at 11:07am · 2 people


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 10, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
I forgot to add that the woman who is running the page is Brenda Gaffney, a cousin of Adam.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2011, 02:47:49 PM
what are the donations for exactly?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 10, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
They say they are for the funeral, burial and the memorial service.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 10, 2011, 03:57:54 PM
Walter Laro, Adam's father, is the man who set up the donation fund -

Celina cass
any donation for celina send to adam laro care of walter laro columbia nh 03576 god bless all of you!!!!!
August 4 at 10:15am

    2 people like this.
        Lori Ramalho what is the address to send donations to? I know it's Columbia but where????
        August 4 at 4:21pm

Since I'm on the Celina Cass community page, I don't understand why the woman who is running the page posted this -

Celina cass the donation are set up with bank and we the other family try to get more help for her. but if you know aneythink about her mom that would speak for itself!!!!!!! yes her mom suck we tryed to get to dentests, doctors and so on. her dad has been in and out of hospital with heart problems he was in coma when this happened!!!!!!!!!!! people have given money to the mom and yes she did spend it on herself that why the bank is now in charge. also celina's little sis was taken from the home and will NO LONGER EVER LIVE WITH THEM!!!!!! she will be with her dad and older brother...her dad dose NOT HAVE A CRIMANAL RECORD!!!!!!!!!! yes he dose need help with him beeing sick and wanting to give her a nice service. thank!!!!!!
August 5 at 11:07am · 2 people


My take on it is the families are very divided.  This page in particular seems to be pro Adam and very against Louisa.  Most of the other facebook pages have nothing but nice things to say about Louisa.  IMO


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: alagary on August 10, 2011, 04:18:27 PM
My take on that FB is that the owner needs to give her diploma back.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 10, 2011, 04:44:54 PM
Walter Laro, Adam's father, is the man who set up the donation fund -

Celina cass
any donation for celina send to adam laro care of walter laro columbia nh 03576 god bless all of you!!!!!
August 4 at 10:15am

    2 people like this.
        Lori Ramalho what is the address to send donations to? I know it's Columbia but where????
        August 4 at 4:21pm

Since I'm on the Celina Cass community page, I don't understand why the woman who is running the page posted this -

Celina cass the donation are set up with bank and we the other family try to get more help for her. but if you know aneythink about her mom that would speak for itself!!!!!!! yes her mom suck we tryed to get to dentests, doctors and so on. her dad has been in and out of hospital with heart problems he was in coma when this happened!!!!!!!!!!! people have given money to the mom and yes she did spend it on herself that why the bank is now in charge. also celina's little sis was taken from the home and will NO LONGER EVER LIVE WITH THEM!!!!!! she will be with her dad and older brother...her dad dose NOT HAVE A CRIMANAL RECORD!!!!!!!!!! yes he dose need help with him beeing sick and wanting to give her a nice service. thank!!!!!!
August 5 at 11:07am · 2 people


Who is Celina's little sister..I thought Celina was the youngest?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 10, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
I think it is a mistake ~ I have heard of no younger sibling.

We would have heard that by now, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 10, 2011, 05:00:27 PM
I think it is a mistake ~ I have heard of no younger sibling.

We would have heard that by now, in my opinion.

I think you are right..either that or they are referring to Kayla as little sis...which would mean they don't know the family if they don't know Kayla was the older sister.  And Kayle certainly has seemed to be beside Mom throughout all of this....I think someone is trying to stir the pot.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 10, 2011, 05:01:21 PM
Meant Kayla..not Kayle


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 10, 2011, 05:02:33 PM
I think it is a mistake ~ I have heard of no younger sibling.

We would have heard that by now, in my opinion.

I think you are right..either that or they are referring to Kayla as little sis...which would mean they don't know the family if they don't know Kayla was the older sister.  And Kayle certainly has seemed to be beside Mom throughout all of this....I think someone is trying to stir the pot.

yes. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4getUnot on August 10, 2011, 05:07:44 PM
Denise G Skidgel
Denise Noyes
Colebrook, NH
Dixville Notch, NH
Dixville, NH
intelius.com
intelius.com
intelius.com
Dusty Lee Skidgel
Wendell G Noyes
Christophe J Noyes

Christopher must be WN's son but who does Nick belong to

I believe Nick is a younger (than Christopher) son of Wendell and Denise .
Dusty Skidgel had some comment on his FB wall where Nick wrote "don't tell Mom".....they were joking about something....

Don't know if this might be helpful but I was reading back through the local paper to see what could be gleaned.  I found this and after reading many of these papers it seems there is a lot of underage drinking going on.

 
Page 9 of the Coelbrook Chronicle
 ::snipping2::
N.H. STATE POLICE
On Oct. 10, at 11 p.m. N.H.
State Police responded to a reported
domestic dispute in
Stewartstown. Nicholas Noyes,
18, of Stewartstown, was subsequently
taken into custody and
transported to the Coos County
Jail for treatment and services
and was charged with unlawful
possession of alcohol. He will
need to appear before the Colebrook
District Court.
 ::snipping2::
http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Oct22.pdf

This shows he is 18 yrs old.  Hope it helps.  I have to run now but will let you all know if I find anymore info that might be useful.





Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 10, 2011, 06:40:34 PM
Walter Laro, Adam's father, is the man who set up the donation fund -

Celina cass
any donation for celina send to adam laro care of walter laro columbia nh 03576 god bless all of you!!!!!
August 4 at 10:15am

    2 people like this.
        Lori Ramalho what is the address to send donations to? I know it's Columbia but where????
        August 4 at 4:21pm

Since I'm on the Celina Cass community page, I don't understand why the woman who is running the page posted this -

Celina cass the donation are set up with bank and we the other family try to get more help for her. but if you know aneythink about her mom that would speak for itself!!!!!!! yes her mom suck we tryed to get to dentests, doctors and so on. her dad has been in and out of hospital with heart problems he was in coma when this happened!!!!!!!!!!! people have given money to the mom and yes she did spend it on herself that why the bank is now in charge. also celina's little sis was taken from the home and will NO LONGER EVER LIVE WITH THEM!!!!!! she will be with her dad and older brother...her dad dose NOT HAVE A CRIMANAL RECORD!!!!!!!!!! yes he dose need help with him beeing sick and wanting to give her a nice service. thank!!!!!!
August 5 at 11:07am · 2 people


Who is Celina's little sister..I thought Celina was the youngest?

Celina Cass in this case is the name used by the woman who opened that Facebook page (I think it's weird and confusing).  Even though the donations were requested by Adam Lero's father, Walter, the page is being run by Adam's cousin, Brenda Gaffney.  She is using a picture of Celina (weird again) as her picture on this  page so where it says Celina Cass, it is really Brenda Gaffney.

If you go back and read the exchange between Pam Villeneuve (in this case really Adam's former wife) and Celina Cass (in this case really Brenda Gaffney) you could tell that Pam V. was pissed offed and questioning whose side of the family was making this request.  Then when she found out that it was the Lero side, and not the Cass side, she settled down and that's when Adam's cousin really lit into Louisia.

That's where the confusion came in and I can fully understand why.

(P.S.  I don't know how to capture images on this forum.  I've looked around so if someone could direct me to a place on Scared Monkeys that explains this, I would appreciate it.  Thanks.)



 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2011, 10:15:05 PM
are any donation sites through a bank or are individual persons asking for the donations? or should donations be made directly to the funeral home as a better idea? Sorry if I sound skeptical, but I guess I am....sigh....


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 10, 2011, 11:29:49 PM
are any donation sites through a bank or are individual persons asking for the donations? or should donations be made directly to the funeral home as a better idea? Sorry if I sound skeptical, but I guess I am....sigh....

On that site there were two places listed.  This one was listed before the picture was changed to Celina's picture -
Jennifer Clark Quarterman
okey dokey research info .. for donations the Celina Cass memorial fund c/o the Passumpic savings bank p.o.box 351 Lancaster nh 03054. .. banks contact information is 603-788-4715 they will happily answer any questions u have to do with the donation process...
August 5 at 2:51pm

Here's the other -

the celina cass memorial fund c/o the passumpic savings bank p.o.box 351 lancaster nh 03054. also for up to date news nh news WMUR
August 4 at 4:49pm

Both with the same address.  I'm skeptical for other reasons.  I'm sure the family could use the money.  Adam's medical bills alone are probably overwhelming.  However I feel  that the family is going to receive a lot of donations/money and I sure hope it is used to help Adam or help Kayla's education or some other good cause.

Celina was cremated and it was reported that she was "laid to rest" which I presume is burial.  This doesn't cost a lot of money.  As far as the memorial, I can't think of what they would have paid for since I'm sure the gymnasium was donated and speakers wouldn't charge anything.  I'm skeptical with this whole case.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 11, 2011, 07:43:15 AM
Walter Laro, Adam's father, is the man who set up the donation fund -

Celina cass
any donation for celina send to adam laro care of walter laro columbia nh 03576 god bless all of you!!!!!
August 4 at 10:15am

    2 people like this.
        Lori Ramalho what is the address to send donations to? I know it's Columbia but where????
        August 4 at 4:21pm

Since I'm on the Celina Cass community page, I don't understand why the woman who is running the page posted this -

Celina cass the donation are set up with bank and we the other family try to get more help for her. but if you know aneythink about her mom that would speak for itself!!!!!!! yes her mom suck we tryed to get to dentests, doctors and so on. her dad has been in and out of hospital with heart problems he was in coma when this happened!!!!!!!!!!! people have given money to the mom and yes she did spend it on herself that why the bank is now in charge. also celina's little sis was taken from the home and will NO LONGER EVER LIVE WITH THEM!!!!!! she will be with her dad and older brother...her dad dose NOT HAVE A CRIMANAL RECORD!!!!!!!!!! yes he dose need help with him beeing sick and wanting to give her a nice service. thank!!!!!!
August 5 at 11:07am · 2 people


Who is Celina's little sister..I thought Celina was the youngest?

Celina Cass in this case is the name used by the woman who opened that Facebook page (I think it's weird and confusing).  Even though the donations were requested by Adam Lero's father, Walter, the page is being run by Adam's cousin, Brenda Gaffney.  She is using a picture of Celina (weird again) as her picture on this  page so where it says Celina Cass, it is really Brenda Gaffney.

If you go back and read the exchange between Pam Villeneuve (in this case really Adam's former wife) and Celina Cass (in this case really Brenda Gaffney) you could tell that Pam V. was pissed offed and questioning whose side of the family was making this request.  Then when she found out that it was the Lero side, and not the Cass side, she settled down and that's when Adam's cousin really lit into Louisia.

That's where the confusion came in and I can fully understand why.

(P.S.  I don't know how to capture images on this forum.  I've looked around so if someone could direct me to a place on Scared Monkeys that explains this, I would appreciate it.  Thanks.)



 

No doubt this woman needs a little more edumakashin!  I think she's definately on Laro's side and really doesn't know how to use FB too well.  Her heart is probably in the right place but could use a little more social grace.  Funds should never go directly to family, and that is MOO.  IMO she is really asking for help for Celina's Dad cause he is poor and in bad health but shouldn't.  I'll bet ole Stepdad is on some heavy painkillers, downers and psych meds.  All of which could knock poor Celina out for days.  Can't wait to hear the tox report.  Let me say I do hope someone gave her drugs and enough of them that she didn't know what the scum did to her. All MOO.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on August 11, 2011, 07:48:45 AM

Here is an example I've taken from the web by googling for funeral expenses in the state of New Hampshire:
http://www.phaneuf.net/_mgxroot/page_10875.php

There are various packages available, depending on the level of goods and services provided.  Pricing and services for cremation (as an example):

 ::snipping2::
Direct Cremation

With over 60% of New Hampshire residents selecting cremation, our direct cremation packages provide value, convenience and affordability. All of our direct cremation packages include the professional services associated with a direct cremation, including services of funeral director and staff, local transfer of deceased from place of death into our care, refrigeration, our 10-step identification, security and control cremation process, pick up of cremated remains at our facility, and our 100% service guarantee. All cash advance items are in addition to the prices stated.
LIFE CELEBRATION PACKAGE

Our Life Celebration Package is for those interested in commemorating a life lived through a personalized memorial service. In addition to the items mentioned earlier, the Life Celebration Package includes:

    Memorial gathering for up to one hour either at your place of worship (if allowed) or in one of our chapels, followed by the memorial service.
    Use of Urn Ark (if needed).
    Delivery of flowers.
    Choice of cremation urn.
    Choice of twelve custom memorial record packages.
    Personally designed flower selection.
    Electronic obituary placement.

Package Price: $3,605 Savings: $250
GRAVESIDE CREMATION PACKAGE

A graveside gathering, with or without clergy present, is a simple yet meaningful way to honor a loved one’s memory. In addition to the items mentioned earlier, the Graveside Cremation Package includes:

    Coordinating and directing a cemetery committal service.
    Graveside setup with chairs and urn stand.
    Choice of cremation urn.
    Personally designed flower selection.
    Electronic obituary placement.

Package Price: $2,765 Savings: $150
"JUST CREMATION" PACKAGE

You can simply respect the wishes of those who "just want to be cremated." This basic package includes everything legally required for a cremation as mentioned earlier.

Please not that an urn is not included in this package.
Package Price: $1,995 Savings: $0

 ::snipping2::

GENERAL PRICE LIST

These prices are effective January 1, 2011 but are subject to change without notice

The goods and services shown below are those we can provide to our customers. You may choose only the items you desire. However, any funeral arrangements you select will include a charge for our basic services and overhead. If legal or other requirements mean you must buy any items you did not specifically ask for, we will explain the reason in writing on the statement we provide describing the funeral goods and services you selected.
PROFESSIONAL STAFF SERVICES

Basic Services of Funeral Director & Staff..........................$995
Our professional service charge includes: twenty-four hour availability; consultation with family; preparation and filing of authorizations, certificates and permits; placement of obituary notices; and a proportionate share of our overhead costs. The fee for our basic services and overhead will be added to the total cost of the funeral arrangements you select. (This fee is already included in our charges for direct cremation, immediate burial and forwarding and receiving the remains.)
**************************************************
If you go to the link and read from here on down, you will see additional costs and they can add up quickly. Look and see how many might apply to a cremation and service as was provided for Celina. 







Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 11, 2011, 07:49:09 AM
I hate to say that having someone cremated is around 2k here in FL and if someone is dirt poor that is a lot of money.  Then you have the urn and a few other things.  I'll bet that was all taken care of by someone or donations but I'm wondering if Laro wanted to have her buried so he and the family would have a place to go visit but Mom decided to have her cremated by choice or by cost?  Maybe Mom said you can bury her if you can come up with the money.  Oh well, it doesn't really matter now.  Just little things to ponder over cause again we have a case where we know nothing!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 11, 2011, 08:11:06 AM
Wendell and Kevin not in attendance at the memorial or the parade is a pretty big statement.  Strong indications of not only guilt but that others in the know (ie... friends and family) see them as guilty.

I've noticed several Noyes FB accounts being made almost completely private, some having the avatar pic removed, too.

Guessing they are distancing and/or circling the wagons.   ::MonkeyShocked::



Good morning Monkeys

tcumom, CW618 and Pattianne like to dig, I found a new site,  (I think) a hitch, not sure, but I think it is a paid site.

I was just hoping to search, the searchie thing is not working for me. 

http://www.americanancestors.org/search.aspx


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 11, 2011, 10:37:35 AM
Wendell and Kevin not in attendance at the memorial or the parade is a pretty big statement.  Strong indications of not only guilt but that others in the know (ie... friends and family) see them as guilty.

I've noticed several Noyes FB accounts being made almost completely private, some having the avatar pic removed, too.

Guessing they are distancing and/or circling the wagons.   ::MonkeyShocked::



Good morning Monkeys

tcumom, CW618 and Pattianne like to dig, I found a new site,  (I think) a hitch, not sure, but I think it is a paid site.

I was just hoping to search, the searchie thing is not working for me. 

http://www.americanancestors.org/search.aspx

Thank you Seahorse!

Good morning monkeys!  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 11, 2011, 10:42:11 AM
Wanted to check in for any updates... I'm assuming Wendell is still in that mental hospital? What about Kevin? Anything? Did anyone find out where Jevin used to work?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: wildmala on August 11, 2011, 11:24:07 AM


Have we heard any timeline on the toxicology reports?  How long do they typically take??


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 11, 2011, 01:39:05 PM
Wendell and Kevin not in attendance at the memorial or the parade is a pretty big statement.  Strong indications of not only guilt but that others in the know (ie... friends and family) see them as guilty.

I've noticed several Noyes FB accounts being made almost completely private, some having the avatar pic removed, too.

Guessing they are distancing and/or circling the wagons.   ::MonkeyShocked::



Good morning Monkeys

tcumom, CW618 and Pattianne like to dig, I found a new site,  (I think) a hitch, not sure, but I think it is a paid site.

I was just hoping to search, the searchie thing is not working for me. 

http://www.americanancestors.org/search.aspx

Thank you Seahorse!

Good morning monkeys!  ::HelloKitty::












One more site Titch for you, and Tcumom, and the other digging monkeys. ::MonkeyShovel::



http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/



























Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 12, 2011, 02:34:54 AM
According to the FB page of Kno Tomorrow Louisa and Kayla have moved because they don't feel safe. They need donations for furniture as well as to pay funeral expenses. Kayla will be attending a new school.

Kno Tomorrow
We are looking into doing a benefit concert for Celina's Mom and sister to help them relocate if you Are in a band and can play music please let us know call if you are interested in playing to help raise money for funeral experiences and to help them pay bills so that they can move away from the night mare that they had to face!

15 hours ago

    France Parker likes this.
        Lisa Cotnoir Skidgel why do they need to relocate?
        14 hours ago
        Stacy Hicks yea why??
        14 hours ago
        Tabitha Houle Vlk I don't blame them for a reminder everyday what happen so close to where the live a see on a daily routine to work, school ect it can be to much for human emotions, an sadly the people that live near an close to them its a open wound that will never heal in time an to grieve everyday more then the next. It is their chioce not anothers to question with out inderstanding. So you ask why then ask that to your self an see what you come up with being a mother an a sister that has lost so much.
        14 hours ago · 1 person
        Kno Tomorrow because they do not feel safe there and it is as tabbie said a reminder every day or the things she went threw she is all ready all moved but needs money to pay the funeral home still and pay other bills and get some new furniture and things Kayla is going to a new school and everything
        12 hours ago
        Julie Therrien- Spurling That's so sad does family have bank to donate $$ t
https://www.facebook.com/knotomorrowband

Wendell and Kayla are no longer FB friends, but she and Kevin Mullaney are still friends. Does that mean that they think Kevin had nothing to do with Celina's death? And they are suspicious of Wendell?

And Kevin, who knows where he is, but wherever he is he has a computer. He sent a message Tuesday to a friend:

Brittany Ames
I wanna feel that way
Yeah I wanna hold you close
Oh If you still love me
Don’t just assume I know ♥
Tuesday at 7:34pm

        Kevin Mullaney I love u
        Tuesday at 8:01pm
        Brittany Ames lol thanks kevin.
        Tuesday at 8:02pm
        Kevin Mullaney Good


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 12, 2011, 02:59:59 AM
According to the FB page of Kno Tomorrow Louisa and Kayla have moved because they don't feel safe. They need donations for furniture as well as to pay funeral expenses. Kayla will be attending a new school.

Kno Tomorrow
We are looking into doing a benefit concert for Celina's Mom and sister to help them relocate if you Are in a band and can play music please let us know call if you are interested in playing to help raise money for funeral experiences and to help them pay bills so that they can move away from the night mare that they had to face!

15 hours ago

    France Parker likes this.
        Lisa Cotnoir Skidgel why do they need to relocate?
        14 hours ago
        Stacy Hicks yea why??
        14 hours ago
        Tabitha Houle Vlk I don't blame them for a reminder everyday what happen so close to where the live a see on a daily routine to work, school ect it can be to much for human emotions, an sadly the people that live near an close to them its a open wound that will never heal in time an to grieve everyday more then the next. It is their chioce not anothers to question with out inderstanding. So you ask why then ask that to your self an see what you come up with being a mother an a sister that has lost so much.
        14 hours ago · 1 person
        Kno Tomorrow because they do not feel safe there and it is as tabbie said a reminder every day or the things she went threw she is all ready all moved but needs money to pay the funeral home still and pay other bills and get some new furniture and things Kayla is going to a new school and everything
        12 hours ago
        Julie Therrien- Spurling That's so sad does family have bank to donate $$ t
https://www.facebook.com/knotomorrowband

Wendell and Kayla are no longer FB friends, but she and Kevin Mullaney are still friends. Does that mean that they think Kevin had nothing to do with Celina's death? And they are suspicious of Wendell?

And Kevin, who knows where he is, but wherever he is he has a computer. He sent a message Tuesday to a friend:

Brittany Ames
I wanna feel that way
Yeah I wanna hold you close
Oh If you still love me
Don’t just assume I know ♥
Tuesday at 7:34pm

        Kevin Mullaney I love u
        Tuesday at 8:01pm
        Brittany Ames lol thanks kevin.
        Tuesday at 8:02pm
        Kevin Mullaney Good


Okay, I think this is pushing the envelope a bit much.  It is one thing to ask for donations for funeral expenses but another to ask for money to buy furniture.  I still don't believe that the donations asked for by Adams family aren't enough for the funeral.  I have looked up and seen funerals with cremation that have come in at just hundreds of dollars.  Why doesn't Louisia feel safe?  Her pervert husband is in a mental hospital and I'm sure that if Kevin is under any kind of suspicion by LE, he is being watched like a hawk.  Above and beyond that, why doesn't she ask for police protection?  Her brother is a Chief of Police. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 12, 2011, 03:01:42 AM
Celina Cass death draws more than a dozen investigators -

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110812/NEWS03/708129989


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 12, 2011, 07:23:52 AM
According to the FB page of Kno Tomorrow Louisa and Kayla have moved because they don't feel safe. They need donations for furniture as well as to pay funeral expenses. Kayla will be attending a new school.

Kno Tomorrow
We are looking into doing a benefit concert for Celina's Mom and sister to help them relocate if you Are in a band and can play music please let us know call if you are interested in playing to help raise money for funeral experiences and to help them pay bills so that they can move away from the night mare that they had to face!

15 hours ago

    France Parker likes this.
        Lisa Cotnoir Skidgel why do they need to relocate?
        14 hours ago
        Stacy Hicks yea why??
        14 hours ago
        Tabitha Houle Vlk I don't blame them for a reminder everyday what happen so close to where the live a see on a daily routine to work, school ect it can be to much for human emotions, an sadly the people that live near an close to them its a open wound that will never heal in time an to grieve everyday more then the next. It is their chioce not anothers to question with out inderstanding. So you ask why then ask that to your self an see what you come up with being a mother an a sister that has lost so much.
        14 hours ago · 1 person
        Kno Tomorrow because they do not feel safe there and it is as tabbie said a reminder every day or the things she went threw she is all ready all moved but needs money to pay the funeral home still and pay other bills and get some new furniture and things Kayla is going to a new school and everything
        12 hours ago
        Julie Therrien- Spurling That's so sad does family have bank to donate $$ t
https://www.facebook.com/knotomorrowband

Wendell and Kayla are no longer FB friends, but she and Kevin Mullaney are still friends. Does that mean that they think Kevin had nothing to do with Celina's death? And they are suspicious of Wendell?

And Kevin, who knows where he is, but wherever he is he has a computer. He sent a message Tuesday to a friend:

Brittany Ames
I wanna feel that way
Yeah I wanna hold you close
Oh If you still love me
Don’t just assume I know ♥
Tuesday at 7:34pm

        Kevin Mullaney I love u
        Tuesday at 8:01pm
        Brittany Ames lol thanks kevin.
        Tuesday at 8:02pm
        Kevin Mullaney Good


Okay, I think this is pushing the envelope a bit much.  It is one thing to ask for donations for funeral expenses but another to ask for money to buy furniture.  I still don't believe that the donations asked for by Adams family aren't enough for the funeral.  I have looked up and seen funerals with cremation that have come in at just hundreds of dollars.  Why doesn't Louisia feel safe?  Her pervert husband is in a mental hospital and I'm sure that if Kevin is under any kind of suspicion by LE, he is being watched like a hawk.  Above and beyond that, why doesn't she ask for police protection?  Her brother is a Chief of Police. 

Which brother is a chief of police? Where? I must have missed that tidbit somehow. The only Cass in LE I remember reading about is Stephen Cass, Police Chief of Colebrook.

She only has 2 brothers according to her father's obit - Del O and Donny. Del works for the NH DOT as a bridge maintainer.
http://admin.state.nh.us/directory/procSearch_internet.asp?FName=del&LName=Cass&lstDepts2=&btnSearchPeople=Search+by+Name

So, is it Donny (Don A)?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 12, 2011, 07:56:29 AM
She wants everyone to send her money to relocate, that is nutz.
If she does moves, it should be in a basement.  ::MonkeyShocked::
Hope no one sends her money for this. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 08:40:07 AM
I debated about posting this, as this is not a concrete *fact* . . . a few days ago a comment was made that I felt was geared towards some of us (I said *some* 'cause it makes me feel better. ha) who were researching the family background . . . that we should stick to the facts, and the family dynamics had nothing to do with the investigation.

I am paraphrasing the above remarks, but I felt  :oops: and  :smt102 .  So, I just decided not to post much.

Now, with all that said, I am posting the FB of the woman with the reddish-blonde hair who was constantly by Louisia's side during the events.  I haven't read all of the wall comments, and heck, by the time I go back there, she may have deleted everything!  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.facebook.com/amanda.umlah?sk=wall


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 08:42:27 AM
::snipping2::

And Kevin, who knows where he is, but wherever he is he has a computer. He sent a message Tuesday to a friend:

Brittany Ames
I wanna feel that way
Yeah I wanna hold you close
Oh If you still love me
Don’t just assume I know ♥
Tuesday at 7:34pm

        Kevin Mullaney I love u
        Tuesday at 8:01pm
        Brittany Ames lol thanks kevin.
        Tuesday at 8:02pm
        Kevin Mullaney Good


yuck and ick .


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 08:46:07 AM
Too much coffee this morning .  ::MonkeyDance::

Comments:

1.  Gee, I wonder if she just left all the furniture at the house, and decided to *start fresh.*  interesting.

2.  I wouldn't be one bit surprised if, in fact, the funeral home donated their services and the urn for her remains. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 08:51:53 AM
She wants everyone to send her money to relocate, that is nutz.
If she does moves, it should be in a basement.  ::MonkeyShocked::
Hope no one sends her money for this. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Agree.  I think she's being given some bad advice.  If she were a celebrity, I'd say her *handlers* need to get a grip .
 
Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if some others might benefit from some (her) new furniture, too. 
Tacky, I know .  But, I am saying it aloud, anyway!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 12, 2011, 08:56:38 AM
tcumom...I have felt the same way before in certain cases. I recall seeing a post like that on a man's wall that had never met Celina...so, I doubt that he really knew if the family dynamics was important or not. You are here trying to help bring children and/or adults home. Sometimes things need to be looked at that the family really doesn't want to admit could play a part in why the person is missing. If we only looked in one particular direction we would miss a lot.  You are doing a great job.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 09:01:29 AM
labubske ~ thanks, and that's why we are here ~ to bring justice for Celina  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 12, 2011, 12:25:06 PM
I debated about posting this, as this is not a concrete *fact* . . . a few days ago a comment was made that I felt was geared towards some of us (I said *some* 'cause it makes me feel better. ha) who were researching the family background . . . that we should stick to the facts, and the family dynamics had nothing to do with the investigation.

I am paraphrasing the above remarks, but I felt  :oops: and  :smt102 .  So, I just decided not to post much.

Now, with all that said, I am posting the FB of the woman with the reddish-blonde hair who was constantly by Louisia's side during the events.  I haven't read all of the wall comments, and heck, by the time I go back there, she may have deleted everything!  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.facebook.com/amanda.umlah?sk=wall

::rhino:: Thank goodness you said it. I thought I was being overly sensitive, then decided it was sour grapes on their part. LOL

I think family dynamics, backgrounds, relationships are extremely telling. Why else does LE look first to the people closest to the victim, then, radiate out from their circle? Because in 86% of murders there was a known or unknown relationship between victim and perp. And what are the monkey researchers looking for? Relationships, known and unknown.

Here is a summary from the Bureau of Justice Statistics (http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=941).
Summary findings
Males were more likely to be violently victimized by a stranger than a nonstranger, and females were more likely to be victimized by a friend, an acquaintance, or an intimate.

    Among male homicide victims in 2007, 16% were murdered by a family member or intimate partner. Of male homicide victims, 2% were killed by a spouse or ex-spouse and 3% were killed by a girlfriend or boyfriend. Over half (54%) were killed by others they knew, and 29% were killed by strangers.
    About 7 in 10 female rape or sexual assault victims stated the offender was an intimate, other relative, a friend, or an acquaintance.
    Seventy-four percent of males and 48% of females stated they did not know the individual(s) who robbed them.
    Intimates were identified by the victims of workplace violence as the perpetrator in about 1% of all workplace violent crime.
    About 40% of the victims of nonfatal violence in the workplace reported that they knew their offender.
    For murder victims, 43% were related to or acquainted with their assailants; 14% of victims were murdered by strangers, while 43% of victims had an unknown relationship to their murderer in 2002.
    Two thirds of murders of children under the age of 5 were committed by a parent or other family member.

So, keep up the research. It is much better to know too much than not enough in these situations.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 12:37:01 PM
Good afternoon monkey's,

How could anyone even think of relocating, before justice is reached for Celina? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 12:41:06 PM
Glad I wasn't alone in my *take* on the remarks.

With that said, on Julie Woods FB wall, she is very upset over some *people* evidently moving near/into the same house or maybe apartment as her son and his family (they have 2 daughters)......

Read the comments....it is very telling . . .

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001870634884&sk=wall

Julie Woods
Why would u move where there is a family with two young girls & in the same house??....i'm sorry if it sounds mean. Now I have to fear for my family???
Wednesday at 16:42

        Douglas Grant UH OH WATS UP JULES
        Wednesday at 17:00
        Nichole Benoit Don't worry Julie... We are working on that..
        Wednesday at 17:08
        Julie Woods I hope so cuz i not feeling to good about it...
        Wednesday at 17:09
        Rita Germain What is this about Julie?
        Wednesday at 17:21
        Joanne Mathieu ‎?? everything ok Jules??
        Wednesday at 17:48
        Julie Woods it's not that i don't like my sons new neighbors.....it's the contrivecy & shit that surrounds them
        Wednesday at 18:16
        Lindsay Woods Dont worry mom Gerry isnt going to let anything happen! Him and i had a big talk... Everything will be ok!
        Wednesday at 19:15
        Brenda Venezia we wont let anything happen Julie....trust me.....
        Wednesday at 19:39
        Barbara Gudgin Carlson-Baldwin I don't know what is going on, but now I am sick with worry. I just saw Hailey last week.....my imagination is working overtime.....Could you email me??
        Wednesday at 19:46
        Sharon Belknap Hope everything works out fine for all of you!
        Yesterday at 08:16
        Barbara Gudgin Carlson-Baldwin Where is W? Not there I hope./////
        Yesterday at 10:02
        Julie Woods NO...not yet...
        Yesterday at 10:02
        Barbara Gudgin Carlson-Baldwin OMFW
        Yesterday at 10:03

There's more recent postings, too.   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
Good afternoon monkey's,

How could anyone even think of relocating, before justice is reached for Celina? 

At this point, nothing is a surprise with these folks.
I think someone is manipulating Louisia, perhaps with only good intentions.  I just don't get it.

It is definitely a different mind-set and world, in that neck of the woods.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 12:50:25 PM
marycat,

What obit names two brother to louisa?   

George D Cass, Obit names three sons:  Del and Don Cass, also, a son with the last name "Reed".
Would the three, be brothers to Louisia/ Louisa?  Or was Mr. Reed, a son by a previous marriage, and maybe not related to Louisia /Louisa?

The Reed, gentleman, would be 51 years old (by previous posts). The late George D. Cass (Dad) was born in 1941.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 12:53:39 PM
marycat,

What obit names two brother to louisa?   

George D Cass, Obit names three sons:  Del and Don Cass, also, a son with the last name "Reed".
Would the three, be brothers to Louisia/ Louisa?  Or was Mr. Reed, a son by a previous marriage, and maybe not related to Louisia /Louisa?

The Reed, gentleman, would be 51 years old (by previous posts). The late George D. Cass (Dad) was born in 1941.

I don't think marycat is on here now.

You're right about those 3 names . . . maybe she's just thinking of Cass surname, and forgot about the Reed guy . 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 12:57:13 PM
Good afternoon monkey's,

How could anyone even think of relocating, before justice is reached for Celina? 

At this point, nothing is a surprise with these folks.
I think someone is manipulating Louisia, perhaps with only good intentions.  I just don't get it.

It is definitely a different mind-set and world, in that neck of the woods.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyWink::

Everything bites us or blesses us, and running does not make you free, but the truth will.

 ::justice2NJ::

 She just may skip town when the heat is on, it may be how she operates, IMO. 

I would not take a child out of her school, the gossip will follow them, where ever they go.

I would stay put and bite the bullet, so to speak, that takes guts, IDK if she has fortitude and patience. ::CowboySmiley::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 12:57:41 PM
I'm concerned that the longer this goes on, with no answers from the toxicology lab . . . that Celina will be forgotten .

Someone will be relieved.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Reminds me of Gary Condit and 9.11.01  ~  he was forgotten.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 12, 2011, 12:59:34 PM
I'd wanna move too if my kids were getting the type of education in THAT town.  Geesh.  Does anybody know how to type/write.  I know we all make typos,  (Me being at least the top 5 typo queens), but it is severe pattern with those on FB at least.  Not only spelling, but grammar.  It just gives me a bad perception of the town, though I can't judge the entire town, on just a few.  Lot's of big hearts obviously.  But whew, the vision, I have, is hard to shake and I should not be so judgemental :(

 Praying for ::justice2NJ::  for Celina!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 01:01:21 PM

Everything bites us or blesses us, and running does not make you free, but the truth will.

 ::justice2NJ::

 She just may skip town when the heat is on, it may be how she operates, IMO. 

I would not take a child out of her school, the gossip will follow them, where ever they go.

I would stay put and bite the bullet, so to speak, that takes guts, IDK if she has fortitude and patience. ::CowboySmiley::


 ::rhino::

I'm right there with you .  If you know you have nothing to hide, have no involvement, or whatever. ...  you *do* stay put and bite the bullet.
If they had so much support with searches, the remembrance service, the parade and who knows what else, then why leave the security of friends and family behind?

More and more questions and no answers.  sigh.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 01:05:36 PM
I'd wanna move too if my kids were getting the type of education in THAT town.  Geesh.  Does anybody know how to type/write.  I know we all make typos,  (Me being at least the top 5 typo queens), but it is severe pattern with those on FB at least.  Not only spelling, but grammar.  It just gives me a bad perception of the town, though I can't judge the entire town, on just a few.  Lot's of big hearts obviously.  But whew, the vision, I have, is hard to shake and I should not be so judgemental :(

 Praying for ::justice2NJ::  for Celina!

I needed that laugh . . . you are soooo right !  I'm certainly not a grammar queen, but those folks are something else . . . maybe it's difficult to lure good teachers to that town ~

Yes, I think so many of them do have big hearts . . .

I don't think you're being judgmental ..... hey, it's the facts as we see them!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 12, 2011, 01:11:19 PM
According to the FB page of Kno Tomorrow Louisa and Kayla have moved because they don't feel safe. They need donations for furniture as well as to pay funeral expenses. Kayla will be attending a new school.

Kno Tomorrow
We are looking into doing a benefit concert for Celina's Mom and sister to help them relocate if you Are in a band and can play music please let us know call if you are interested in playing to help raise money for funeral experiences and to help them pay bills so that they can move away from the night mare that they had to face!

15 hours ago

    France Parker likes this.
        Lisa Cotnoir Skidgel why do they need to relocate?
        14 hours ago
        Stacy Hicks yea why??
        14 hours ago
        Tabitha Houle Vlk I don't blame them for a reminder everyday what happen so close to where the live a see on a daily routine to work, school ect it can be to much for human emotions, an sadly the people that live near an close to them its a open wound that will never heal in time an to grieve everyday more then the next. It is their chioce not anothers to question with out inderstanding. So you ask why then ask that to your self an see what you come up with being a mother an a sister that has lost so much.
        14 hours ago · 1 person
        Kno Tomorrow because they do not feel safe there and it is as tabbie said a reminder every day or the things she went threw she is all ready all moved but needs money to pay the funeral home still and pay other bills and get some new furniture and things Kayla is going to a new school and everything
        12 hours ago
        Julie Therrien- Spurling That's so sad does family have bank to donate $$ t
https://www.facebook.com/knotomorrowband

Wendell and Kayla are no longer FB friends, but she and Kevin Mullaney are still friends. Does that mean that they think Kevin had nothing to do with Celina's death? And they are suspicious of Wendell?

And Kevin, who knows where he is, but wherever he is he has a computer. He sent a message Tuesday to a friend:

Brittany Ames
I wanna feel that way
Yeah I wanna hold you close
Oh If you still love me
Don’t just assume I know ♥
Tuesday at 7:34pm

        Kevin Mullaney I love u
        Tuesday at 8:01pm
        Brittany Ames lol thanks kevin.
        Tuesday at 8:02pm
        Kevin Mullaney Good


Okay, I think this is pushing the envelope a bit much.  It is one thing to ask for donations for funeral expenses but another to ask for money to buy furniture.  I still don't believe that the donations asked for by Adams family aren't enough for the funeral.  I have looked up and seen funerals with cremation that have come in at just hundreds of dollars.  Why doesn't Louisia feel safe?  Her pervert husband is in a mental hospital and I'm sure that if Kevin is under any kind of suspicion by LE, he is being watched like a hawk.  Above and beyond that, why doesn't she ask for police protection?  Her brother is a Chief of Police. 

Which brother is a chief of police? Where? I must have missed that tidbit somehow. The only Cass in LE I remember reading about is Stephen Cass, Police Chief of Colebrook.

She only has 2 brothers according to her father's obit - Del O and Donny. Del works for the NH DOT as a bridge maintainer.
http://admin.state.nh.us/directory/procSearch_internet.asp?FName=del&LName=Cass&lstDepts2=&btnSearchPeople=Search+by+Name

So, is it Donny (Don A)?
Right, the Chief of Police of Colebrook, Stephen Cass.

http://www.colebrook-nh.com/Public_Documents/ColebrookNH_Police/index

He said he went over to Stewartstown to help with the investigation so I think he'd have some connections in the police department.  So if Louisia feels unsafe I'm sure she would be provided with at least a patrol car outside her home until someone is charged with killing Celina - if that is the reason she feels unsafe.




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 12, 2011, 01:26:16 PM
Glad I wasn't alone in my *take* on the remarks.

With that said, on Julie Woods FB wall, she is very upset over some *people* evidently moving near/into the same house or maybe apartment as her son and his family (they have 2 daughters)......

Read the comments....it is very telling . . .

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001870634884&sk=wall

Julie Woods
Why would u move where there is a family with two young girls & in the same house??....i'm sorry if it sounds mean. Now I have to fear for my family???
Wednesday at 16:42

        Douglas Grant UH OH WATS UP JULES
        Wednesday at 17:00
        Nichole Benoit Don't worry Julie... We are working on that..
        Wednesday at 17:08
        Julie Woods I hope so cuz i not feeling to good about it...
        Wednesday at 17:09
        Rita Germain What is this about Julie?
        Wednesday at 17:21
        Joanne Mathieu ‎?? everything ok Jules??
        Wednesday at 17:48
        Julie Woods it's not that i don't like my sons new neighbors.....it's the contrivecy & shit that surrounds them
        Wednesday at 18:16
        Lindsay Woods Dont worry mom Gerry isnt going to let anything happen! Him and i had a big talk... Everything will be ok!
        Wednesday at 19:15
        Brenda Venezia we wont let anything happen Julie....trust me.....
        Wednesday at 19:39
        Barbara Gudgin Carlson-Baldwin I don't know what is going on, but now I am sick with worry. I just saw Hailey last week.....my imagination is working overtime.....Could you email me??
        Wednesday at 19:46
        Sharon Belknap Hope everything works out fine for all of you!
        Yesterday at 08:16
        Barbara Gudgin Carlson-Baldwin Where is W? Not there I hope./////
        Yesterday at 10:02
        Julie Woods NO...not yet...
        Yesterday at 10:02
        Barbara Gudgin Carlson-Baldwin OMFW
        Yesterday at 10:03

There's more recent postings, too.   ::MonkeyShocked::


Wow! I guess it isn't a secret where they are now. Surely she won't let Wendell move back in after all this, but we have seen it happen time and again in these case. I certainly understand Julie Wood's concerns. I mean what if all the partying wasn't just because of Wendell and the parties start up there? I'd hate my grandkids to be around that type of activity, too.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 12, 2011, 01:31:47 PM
marycat,

What obit names two brother to louisa?   

George D Cass, Obit names three sons:  Del and Don Cass, also, a son with the last name "Reed".
Would the three, be brothers to Louisia/ Louisa?  Or was Mr. Reed, a son by a previous marriage, and maybe not related to Louisia /Louisa?

The Reed, gentleman, would be 51 years old (by previous posts). The late George D. Cass (Dad) was born in 1941.

Yes, George D Cass was the obit I had in mind. Tcumom was right. I was thinking of the Cass brothers. When Pattianne said brothers I wasn't thinking half or step. I assumed she meant Stephen Cass since he had been in the papers, but we don't have a relationship for him do we?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 12, 2011, 01:35:24 PM
Amanda Umlah-Chapple
Last seen last night 7/25 PM in West Stewartstown wearing a nice tee shirt and cut off shorts. If you have seen Selena please call the local police
Wall Photos
July 26 at 2:31pm · Like · · Share

    3 people like this.
       
    Amanda Umlah-Chapple girl on the left is Selena Please help. This is not a repost this is a personal friends daughter.
        July 26 at 2:31pm · Like
       
    Christine May Reynolds-Wheeler We have our eyes open and will spread the word as far as we can. I am so sad for this family! Selena is in my daughter's class as well and is very tore up. I send prayers for this family!
        July 26 at 2:38pm · Like
       
    Lexy Lizzilovesme Owen IN THE GREEN?
        July 26 at 2:39pm · Like
       
    Christine May Reynolds-Wheeler yeah on the left
        July 26 at 2:40pm · Like
       
    Christine May Reynolds-Wheeler Does anyone know if they activated the amber alert??
        July 26 at 2:40pm · Like
       
    Amanda Umlah-Chapple does anyone no a mike green from grovton that is who she last IM'ed on facebook last night.
        July 26 at 3:03pm · Like
       
    Christine May Reynolds-Wheeler looking into this now
        July 26 at 3:06pm · Like
       
    Lexy Lizzilovesme Owen she is not friends wit him on facebook
        July 26 at 3:06pm · Like
       
    Heather Shepa I know her. Is her mom Louisa?
        July 26 at 3:19pm · Like
       
    Heather Shepa That is my Uncle Wendell's step daughter!
    July 26 at 3:25pm · Like
       
    Christine May Reynolds-Wheeler yes!
        July 26 at 3:26pm · Like
       
    Heather Shepa OH NO!
        July 26 at 3:27pm · Like
       
    Christine May Reynolds-Wheeler this is so sad.
        July 26 at 3:30pm · Like
       
    Douglas Ramsey Jr Praying they find her soon!!!
        July 26 at 3:31pm · Like
       
    Sapphire Nicole omg :/
        July 26 at 3:42pm · Like
       
    Adam Jenna Very sad
        July 26 at 3:43pm · Like
       
    Amanda Umlah-Chapple there is an amber alert now!!!
        July 26 at 4:11pm · Like
       
    Rhonda Dotson Gallien prayers are all going out and posted
        July 26 at 4:12pm · Like
       
    Shannon Ullmer OMG, i pray everything works out for the family. I was reading all the post and my heart goes out for the family.....
        July 26 at 4:28pm · Like
       
    Angela Hall Emerson On the news they spelled her name with "C"...Celena...
        July 26 at 5:57pm · Like
       
    Angela Hall Emerson Praying for her safe return ♥
        July 26 at 5:58pm · Like · 1 person
       
    Karen Rivera-Comeau OMG
        July 26 at 6:42pm · Like
       
    Jamie-lee Pinet We found a Mike Green on facebook but it says that he is from Berlin
        July 26 at 7:17pm · Like
       
    Amanda Umlah-Chapple ty
        July 26 at 7:59pm · Like
        Kathy Harvey I don't watch the news much. I didn't know there was a girl missing from Stewartstown. Oh my goodness. What happened? I hope they find her soon and she is home safe and sound.. My prayers go out to her and her family..
        July 26 at 8:24pm · Like
       
    Augustus Samples J hope she comes home safe!
        July 26 at 8:44pm · Like
       
    Angel David sad.. May she come back safe ..
        July 27 at 7:09am · Like · 1 person
       
    Lexy Lizzilovesme Owen she was my friend and i went to her candle light seromy
        July 27 at 12:07pm · Like · 1 person
       
    Angie Barnes ‎@hEATHER IS that your uncle WEndalls Facebook page?
        July 28 at 4:41pm · Like
       
    Kno Tomorrow still nothing please help us find her
        July 31 at 2:16am · Like · 2 people

I wonder if this is the Mike Green? -

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1267459228 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1267459228)
   


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 01:36:26 PM
marycat,

What obit names two brother to louisa?   

George D Cass, Obit names three sons:  Del and Don Cass, also, a son with the last name "Reed".
Would the three, be brothers to Louisia/ Louisa?  Or was Mr. Reed, a son by a previous marriage, and maybe not related to Louisia /Louisa?

The Reed, gentleman, would be 51 years old (by previous posts). The late George D. Cass (Dad) was born in 1941.

Yes, George D Cass was the obit I had in mind. Tcumom was right. I was thinking of the Cass brothers. When Pattianne said brothers I wasn't thinking half or step. I assumed she meant Stephen Cass since he had been in the papers, but we don't have a relationship for him do we?

I'll check something, and be back in a couple of minutes.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 01:46:20 PM
Now this is cool.

http://www.faqs.org/people-search/cass-new-hampshire/

I ran across this while hunting for Stephen Cass.  There are 2 in Colebrook.  One is about 42.  Probably Louisia's cousin, somewhere along the line.

The website above lists Cass' birth and death dates and where, in New Hampshire.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 12, 2011, 02:51:23 PM


I wonder if this is the Mike Green? -

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1267459228 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1267459228)
   

It would be interesting to know something about the person her last message was to, what time the message was sent and the content. I haven't seen a Mike Green on any of the FB pages like Kayla's, Kevin M's, W's or on any of their friends pages that I have looked at so far. That is suspicious to me. That she is messaging someone perhaps unknown to her family and friends.

I am not seeing any Mike Greens in Groveton yet.

I found an RSO by the name of Michael J Hunter, but his last known address is down south in Atkinson, close to Manchester. He was convicted of aggravated sexual assault, victim under 13 years old.

http://search.criminalcheck.com/pddetails.php?db=nhsx_an&rec=41188&ed=280&dlnumber=CC&dlstate=CC&id=CC%3EGREEN,MICHAEL%3C/a%3E%3C/td


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2011, 03:19:16 PM
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html

Details on Celina’s lastnight alive described

 ::snipping2::
According to a source close to the family, Celina and her mom, Louisa Noyes, were sitting on the couch in the living room watching “The Secret Life of An American Teenager” together on the ABC Family Channel. When the show was over at 9 p.m., Celina decided to watch another show and was also back and forth on the family computer, which was in the living room. Louisa Noyes said goodnight to her daughter, and went upstairs to go to sleep.

Celina and her sister, Kayla, shared a bedroom in the basement of the apartment house – a finished room furnished with beds for both girls – not an air mattress on the basement floor, as has been previously reported.

There are a total of three bedrooms on the second floor: Louisa’s, another room in which family friend Kevin Mullaney was staying, and a third room where Louisa’s mother-in-law, Tommie Richards, was staying. Tommie, the Chronicle was told, has health issues and was staying overnight with Wendell and Louisa Noyes.

No one knows if Celina went downstairs to her room after her mother went to sleep. The Chronicle has been told that when Mullaney came home, it was around midnight, and he can remember coming into the living room and sitting on the couch; it was believed that Celina was in her bedroom, in her own bed.

 ::snipping2::
The Chronicle also reported that Louisa, Kayla and Kevin have moved into a new apartment out of town. Kayla and Louisa were having a difficult time staying in the apartment, and Louisa felt it was better to find another place to live. Wendell Noyes is not with them because he checked himself into a mental health facility in Concord the day after Celina’s body was found. Four years ago, Noyes was declared a paranoid schizophrenic after some odd behavior.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 12, 2011, 03:23:42 PM
I'd wanna move too if my kids were getting the type of education in THAT town.  Geesh.  Does anybody know how to type/write.  I know we all make typos,  (Me being at least the top 5 typo queens), but it is severe pattern with those on FB at least.  Not only spelling, but grammar.  It just gives me a bad perception of the town, though I can't judge the entire town, on just a few.  Lot's of big hearts obviously.  But whew, the vision, I have, is hard to shake and I should not be so judgemental :(

 Praying for ::justice2NJ::  for Celina!

I needed that laugh . . . you are soooo right !  I'm certainly not a grammar queen, but those folks are something else . . . maybe it's difficult to lure good teachers to that town ~

Yes, I think so many of them do have big hearts . . .

I don't think you're being judgmental ..... hey, it's the facts as we see them!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks tcumom!  I didn't want to sound harsh and I was trying to tread lightly on what I was saying vs what I was really thinking.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Samarie on August 12, 2011, 03:27:36 PM
Thanks 4donks...this paragraph really caught my attention... ::MonkeyEek::

 ::snipping2::

Last week, when Fish and Game divers began searching the Connecticut River, Wendell Noyes walked to a picnic table in the park in West Stewartstown where photos of Celina were placed during an evening vigil. One by one, he lay them all face down on the table. He then walked back to the apartment and was seen lying on the ground and rolling around in front of the apartment building. A few hours later, the family learned that Celina’s body was found in the river. He was still a patient as of Thursday in an undisclosed facility. At one time, his children and extended family listed him as a friend on Facebook – today his name no longer appears on their pages.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 03:31:31 PM
marycat,

What obit names two brother to louisa?   

George D Cass, Obit names three sons:  Del and Don Cass, also, a son with the last name "Reed".
Would the three, be brothers to Louisia/ Louisa?  Or was Mr. Reed, a son by a previous marriage, and maybe not related to Louisia /Louisa?

The Reed, gentleman, would be 51 years old (by previous posts). The late George D. Cass (Dad) was born in 1941.

Yes, George D Cass was the obit I had in mind. Tcumom was right. I was thinking of the Cass brothers. When Pattianne said brothers I wasn't thinking half or step. I assumed she meant Stephen Cass since he had been in the papers, but we don't have a relationship for him do we?

I'll check something, and be back in a couple of minutes.

Hi Tcumom,

I am going to let Wayne Dean Reed go, he is a mystery. I guess he really has no bearing on the case. I can not fit him into the puzzle, grr. 

Who is Tommy Cass?  I guess I have been sleeping:)

The crock pot or slow cooker is ideal for cooking and blogging at the same time.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 12, 2011, 03:45:11 PM
Thanks 4donks...this paragraph really caught my attention... ::MonkeyEek::

 ::snipping2::

Last week, when Fish and Game divers began searching the Connecticut River, Wendell Noyes walked to a picnic table in the park in West Stewartstown where photos of Celina were placed during an evening vigil. One by one, he lay them all face down on the table. He then walked back to the apartment and was seen lying on the ground and rolling around in front of the apartment building. A few hours later, the family learned that Celina’s body was found in the river. He was still a patient as of Thursday in an undisclosed facility. At one time, his children and extended family listed him as a friend on Facebook – today his name no longer appears on their pages.

 ::snipping2::

Really!  SCARY! I don't even know what to think.  What was HE thinking?  I know he's a diagnosed Paranoid Schitz. but really, that's just freaky.  Sounds like he needs to be permanently institutionalized. 

However, the article does clear up alot of speculation about who lived their and the girls bedroom and a more specific timeline.
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 12, 2011, 03:46:41 PM
Thanks 4donks...this paragraph really caught my attention... ::MonkeyEek::

 ::snipping2::

Last week, when Fish and Game divers began searching the Connecticut River, Wendell Noyes walked to a picnic table in the park in West Stewartstown where photos of Celina were placed during an evening vigil. One by one, he lay them all face down on the table. He then walked back to the apartment and was seen lying on the ground and rolling around in front of the apartment building. A few hours later, the family learned that Celina’s body was found in the river. He was still a patient as of Thursday in an undisclosed facility. At one time, his children and extended family listed him as a friend on Facebook – today his name no longer appears on their pages.

 ::snipping2::

Really!  SCARY! I don't even know what to think.  What was HE thinking?  I know he's a diagnosed Paranoid Schitz. but really, that's just freaky.  Sounds like he needs to be permanently institutionalized. 

However, the article does clear up alot of speculation about who lived their and the girls bedroom and a more specific timeline.
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html

Oops, sorry for getting in quote!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2011, 03:50:11 PM
Thanks 4donks...this paragraph really caught my attention... ::MonkeyEek::

 ::snipping2::

Last week, when Fish and Game divers began searching the Connecticut River, Wendell Noyes walked to a picnic table in the park in West Stewartstown where photos of Celina were placed during an evening vigil. One by one, he lay them all face down on the table. He then walked back to the apartment and was seen lying on the ground and rolling around in front of the apartment building. A few hours later, the family learned that Celina’s body was found in the river. He was still a patient as of Thursday in an undisclosed facility. At one time, his children and extended family listed him as a friend on Facebook – today his name no longer appears on their pages.

 ::snipping2::

Really!  SCARY! I don't even know what to think.  What was HE thinking?  I know he's a diagnosed Paranoid Schitz. but really, that's just freaky.  Sounds like he needs to be permanently institutionalized. 

However, the article does clear up alot of speculation about who lived their and the girls bedroom and a more specific timeline.
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html

Oops, sorry for getting in quote!

Well now we know where Kevin is. It says he Louisa and Kayla moved out of town to an apartment together.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 12, 2011, 04:49:44 PM
Thanks 4donks...this paragraph really caught my attention... ::MonkeyEek::

 ::snipping2::

Last week, when Fish and Game divers began searching the Connecticut River, Wendell Noyes walked to a picnic table in the park in West Stewartstown where photos of Celina were placed during an evening vigil. One by one, he lay them all face down on the table. He then walked back to the apartment and was seen lying on the ground and rolling around in front of the apartment building. A few hours later, the family learned that Celina’s body was found in the river. He was still a patient as of Thursday in an undisclosed facility. At one time, his children and extended family listed him as a friend on Facebook – today his name no longer appears on their pages.

 ::snipping2::

Really!  SCARY! I don't even know what to think.  What was HE thinking?  I know he's a diagnosed Paranoid Schitz. but really, that's just freaky.  Sounds like he needs to be permanently institutionalized. 

However, the article does clear up alot of speculation about who lived their and the girls bedroom and a more specific timeline.
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html

Oops, sorry for getting in quote!

Well now we know where Kevin is. It says he Louisa and Kayla moved out of town to an apartment together.

Thanks 4Donks and Samarie. I think that is the most info in one article we have received so far.

I wonder who the "source close to the family" could be and if what they say has been verified?

Wow. Not looking good for Wendell. The turning the photos upside down is creepy and sure seems suspicious.

In the article it just states "Louisa's bedroom" with no mention of W. Seems odd since they told where everyone else was that night.

If Mullaney is with them, them they must think he has been cleared. Anyone know if the police have released his truck?

I don't think they moved too far away. Colebrook, where Julie's son lives, is only 7 or 8 miles away, so they really won't be escaping from too much of the notoriety of the case. I feel so sorry for Kayla. Lots to bear on those 13 year old shoulders.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dihannah1 link=topic=11926.msg1460721#msg1460721 date=1313178401

Oops, sorry for getting in quote!
[/quote

Well now we know where Kevin is. It says he Louisa and Kayla moved out of town to an apartment together.
That article gives me the willies, thinking about Kevin with Louisia and Kayla.  I know people probably think it's not a big deal, but that is disturbing to me.  So, I guess all this time he's been hanging around, just keeping a low profile. . . obviously, he doesn't work.

Yes, no mention of Kayla.  And, the Louisia's mom, Tommie staying there . . . but then, on the parade float it appeared as if they were strangers.  I guess it could have just been that particular shot or something.  Just trying to picture other reasons for why they seemed estranged.  Who knows . ::MonkeyEek::

I still don't get how Tommie and Louisia did not miss Celina that morning.  And, Kevin  *remembers* sitting on the couch when he returned home?  oh, okay?

Y'all help me with this.  At least we have a little more info.  Wonder if it's from that Amanda blah blah, whose FB link i posted this morning. hmmmmm


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 12, 2011, 04:54:07 PM
After reading that article that is full of information that answers a lot of our questions...I still have questions. Where was Wendall?  Asleep in their bedroom upstairs? Where had Kevin been...it states that he arrived home at midnight. Had he been at work...out partying?  Did anyone come in with him...even for a minute?  It just seems odd that Wendell would do this while his mother was there (it was his mother correct?)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 05:00:42 PM
Quote from: Dihannah1 link=topic=11926.msg1460721#msg1460721 date=1313178401

Oops, sorry for getting in quote!
[/quote

Well now we know where Kevin is. It says he Louisa and Kayla moved out of town to an apartment together.
That article gives me the willies, thinking about Kevin with Louisia and Kayla.  I know people probably think it's not a big deal, but that is disturbing to me.  So, I guess all this time he's been hanging around, just keeping a low profile. . . obviously, he doesn't work.

Yes, no mention of Kayla.  And, the Louisia's mom, Tommie staying there . . . but then, on the parade float it appeared as if they were strangers.  I guess it could have just been that particular shot or something.  Just trying to picture other reasons for why they seemed estranged.  Who knows . ::MonkeyEek::

I still don't get how Tommie and Louisia did not miss Celina that morning.  And, Kevin  *remembers* sitting on the couch when he returned home?  oh, okay?

Y'all help me with this.  At least we have a little more info.  Wonder if it's from that Amanda blah blah, whose FB link i posted this morning. hmmmmm

Well ~ I totally messed up the entire box ~ I guess I was so excited about:

*a tad of info on Celina and,
*killercasey having to sashay her smarmy self back to Orlando .   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 05:03:22 PM
I blew the posting so badly, I just copied and pasted it in this new box.  good grief.  ::MonkeyShocked::


That article gives me the willies, thinking about Kevin with Louisia and Kayla.  I know people probably think it's not a big deal, but that is disturbing to me.  So, I guess all this time he's been hanging around, just keeping a low profile. . . obviously, he doesn't work.

Yes, no mention of Kayla.  And, the Louisia's mom, Tommie staying there . . . but then, on the parade float it appeared as if they were strangers.  I guess it could have just been that particular shot or something.  Just trying to picture other reasons for why they seemed estranged.  Who knows .

I still don't get how Tommie and Louisia did not miss Celina that morning.  And, Kevin  *remembers* sitting on the couch when he returned home?  oh, okay?

Y'all help me with this.  At least we have a little more info.  Wonder if it's from that Amanda blah blah, whose FB link i posted this morning. hmmmmm


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 05:23:14 PM
marycat,

What obit names two brother to louisa?   

George D Cass, Obit names three sons:  Del and Don Cass, also, a son with the last name "Reed".
Would the three, be brothers to Louisia/ Louisa?  Or was Mr. Reed, a son by a previous marriage, and maybe not related to Louisia /Louisa?

The Reed, gentleman, would be 51 years old (by previous posts). The late George D. Cass (Dad) was born in 1941.

Yes, George D Cass was the obit I had in mind. Tcumom was right. I was thinking of the Cass brothers. When Pattianne said brothers I wasn't thinking half or step. I assumed she meant Stephen Cass since he had been in the papers, but we don't have a relationship for him do we?

I'll check something, and be back in a couple of minutes.

Hi Tcumom,

I am going to let Wayne Dean Reed go, he is a mystery. I guess he really has no bearing on the case. I can not fit him into the puzzle, grr. 

Who is Tommy Cass?  I guess I have been sleeping:)

The crock pot or slow cooker is ideal for cooking and blogging at the same time.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Wait.  What now?  Tommy Cass?  Who is that?  Are you thinking Donny Cass? It doesn't take much to confuse me!  haha.

Yes, that slow cooker has been going strong for a couple of weeks.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2011, 06:09:10 PM
Quote from: Dihannah1 link=topic=11926.msg1460721#msg1460721 date=1313178401

Oops, sorry for getting in quote!
[/quote

Well now we know where Kevin is. It says he Louisa and Kayla moved out of town to an apartment together.
That article gives me the willies, thinking about Kevin with Louisia and Kayla.  I know people probably think it's not a big deal, but that is disturbing to me.  So, I guess all this time he's been hanging around, just keeping a low profile. . . obviously, he doesn't work.

Yes, no mention of Kayla.  And, the Louisia's mom, Tommie staying there . . . but then, on the parade float it appeared as if they were strangers.  I guess it could have just been that particular shot or something.  Just trying to picture other reasons for why they seemed estranged.  Who knows . ::MonkeyEek::

I still don't get how Tommie and Louisia did not miss Celina that morning.  And, Kevin  *remembers* sitting on the couch when he returned home?  oh, okay?

Y'all help me with this.  At least we have a little more info.  Wonder if it's from that Amanda blah blah, whose FB link i posted this morning. hmmmmm

Well ~ I totally messed up the entire box ~ I guess I was so excited about:

*a tad of info on Celina and,
*killercasey having to sashay her smarmy self back to Orlando .   ::CowboySmiley::


Tommie is Loisa's MIL  not mother.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 06:12:14 PM
marycat,

What obit names two brother to louisa?   

George D Cass, Obit names three sons:  Del and Don Cass, also, a son with the last name "Reed".
Would the three, be brothers to Louisia/ Louisa?  Or was Mr. Reed, a son by a previous marriage, and maybe not related to Louisia /Louisa?



The Reed, gentleman, would be 51 years old (by previous posts). The late George D. Cass (Dad) was born in 1941.

Yes, George D Cass was the obit I had in mind. Tcumom was right. I was thinking of the Cass brothers. When Pattianne said brothers I wasn't thinking half or step. I assumed she meant Stephen Cass since he had been in the papers, but we don't have a relationship for him do we?

I'll check something, and be back in a couple of minutes.

Hi Tcumom,

I am going to let Wayne Dean Reed go, he is a mystery. I guess he really has no bearing on the case. I can not fit him into the puzzle, grr. 

Who is Tommy Cass?  I guess I have been sleeping:)

The crock pot or slow cooker is ideal for cooking and blogging at the same time.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Wait.  What now?  Tommy Cass?  Who is that?  Are you thinking Donny Cass? It doesn't take much to confuse me!  haha.

Yes, that slow cooker has been going strong for a couple of weeks.   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I am sorry, I mean't Stephen Cass, but where is Del, please?  Is Dan C the son of Del?  I would understand if he was, because no wife was included for Del (in the Obit), meaning, I would understand why Dan did not know Who's Who, if
he was raised only by his mother.

The Crockpot smells so dog-on good.  The person was a genius, who created this lovely cooking invention.

Perhaps Kev influenced LN to move out of town.  I am such a stubborn person, I would have stuck it out to the very end,
to see justice and be my own detective, :)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: Dihannah1 link=topic=11926.msg1460721#msg1460721 date=1313178401

Oops, sorry for getting in quote!
[/quote

Well now we know where Kevin is. It says he Louisa and Kayla moved out of town to an apartment together.
That article gives me the willies, thinking about Kevin with Louisia and Kayla.  I know people probably think it's not a big deal, but that is disturbing to me.  So, I guess all this time he's been hanging around, just keeping a low profile. . . obviously, he doesn't work.

Yes, no mention of Kayla.  And, the Louisia's mom, Tommie staying there . . . but then, on the parade float it appeared as if they were strangers.  I guess it could have just been that particular shot or something.  Just trying to picture other reasons for why they seemed estranged.  Who knows . ::MonkeyEek::

I still don't get how Tommie and Louisia did not miss Celina that morning.  And, Kevin  *remembers* sitting on the couch when he returned home?  oh, okay?

Y'all help me with this.  At least we have a little more info.  Wonder if it's from that Amanda blah blah, whose FB link i posted this morning. hmmmmm

Well ~ I totally messed up the entire box ~ I guess I was so excited about:

*a tad of info on Celina and,
*killercasey having to sashay her smarmy self back to Orlando .   ::CowboySmiley::


Tommie is Loisa's MIL  not mother.

4Donks, Thank-you, that is what the article said, things are bouncing off of me today.  CW618 posted photos-links asking if we knew the people and I bet the hefty woman may be Tommy.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 06:21:56 PM

 ::snipping2:: for space  Hat Tip for cw618. 
  I could not get the links to operate for me because the computer, I am sure it is me the operator.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
 I think the people hanging out, one looked like a MIL-type.

Quote from: cw618 on August 06, 2011, 11:41:33 AM
just some bigger imgs links from google img,and some observations

what is the silver shiny thing on the ledge,the officer is pointing
to,sorta looks like a fishing rod


the man holding L cass is looking right at the cam
big pic
http://media.klewtv.com/images/110728_missing_girl_2.jpg

this guy is looking at the cam too click for big
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/67dae02bc1352d10f40e6a7067002201_0.jpg

do you know any of these people
http://washingtonexaminer.com/files/a380141ac13b2d10f40e6a706700fe2c_0.jpg


house imgs
http://www.sfexaminer.com/files/d7c03d103bcfb811f40e6a706700af6b_2.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii76/u28hd08/home.jpg



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 12, 2011, 06:26:28 PM
I'm confused.
There's so many ppl, hard to keep straight who stayed where, who belongs to who.  I'm surprised the hell's angels didn't ride threw that house.
 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 06:28:21 PM
I'm confused.
There's so many ppl, hard to keep straight who stayed where, who belongs to who.  I'm surprised the hell's angels didn't ride threw that house.
 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyEek::

Good evening Monkey's,

Klaas and Muffy gave us a Who's Who thread  ::MonkeyHaHa:: but heck if we can quite figured exactly who is who.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
Tommie is Loisa's MIL  not mother.
Good heavens ~ as glued as I am to this mystery, you'd think I could remember that!  All that nosing around on Tommie Richards and I'm putting her on the float as Louisia's mother.

Keep an eye on me, 4donks.    ::MonkeyHaHa::

I need a Cliff's Notes version of this entire drama.  seriously. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 06:50:41 PM
I'm confused.
There's so many ppl, hard to keep straight who stayed where, who belongs to who.  I'm surprised the hell's angels didn't ride threw that house.
 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Notice that I tried to make Tommie Richards into Louisia's mother . . . heck, the way these folks are inter-twined.....who knows!  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 12, 2011, 07:37:03 PM
I'm confused.
There's so many ppl, hard to keep straight who stayed where, who belongs to who.  I'm surprised the hell's angels didn't ride threw that house.
 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Notice that I tried to make Tommie Richards into Louisia's mother . . . heck, the way these folks are inter-twined.....who knows!  ::MonkeyShocked::

I did notice, but that's ok, you know much more then me.
You crack me up.... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
Tommie is Loisa's MIL  not mother.
Good heavens ~ as glued as I am to this mystery, you'd think I could remember that!  All that nosing around on Tommie Richards and I'm putting her on the float as Louisia's mother.

Keep an eye on me, 4donks.    ::MonkeyHaHa::

I need a Cliff's Notes version of this entire drama.  seriously. 

Tommie Richards from the Bostonherald.com

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/tommierichards.jpg)



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2011, 07:55:32 PM
Tommie is Loisa's MIL  not mother.
Good heavens ~ as glued as I am to this mystery, you'd think I could remember that!  All that nosing around on Tommie Richards and I'm putting her on the float as Louisia's mother.

Keep an eye on me, 4donks.    ::MonkeyHaHa::

I need a Cliff's Notes version of this entire drama.  seriously. 

Tommie Richards from the Bostonherald.com

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/tommierichards.jpg)


http://www.bostonherald.com/galleries/?gallery_id=5603


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 07:57:48 PM
Tommie is Loisa's MIL  not mother.
Good heavens ~ as glued as I am to this mystery, you'd think I could remember that!  All that nosing around on Tommie Richards and I'm putting her on the float as Louisia's mother.

Keep an eye on me, 4donks.    ::MonkeyHaHa::

I need a Cliff's Notes version of this entire drama.  seriously. 

Tommie Richards from the Bostonherald.com

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/tommierichards.jpg)
I wondered if she was watching the parade.
Wouldn't you *love* to know what she's thinking.....
If she's in poor health, she might want to put out that 'rette . . .just sayin'.

Boy oh boy ~ I have a feeling everyone who was in that house/apartment has a *real* good idea of what happened.

Oh, well. They've obviously packed up the wagons, and left for parts unknown.....oh, wait. 
They couldn't really pack up.  After all, they need donations for new furniture. 
And, I guess it's not parts unknown, 'cause it looks like some folks are reaaaallll upset about where the threesome has set down the wagon.

If Louisia has any sense, she'll spill what she knows, and hope for the best.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 07:59:18 PM
Oh never mind about my tacky 'rette comment . . . I guess she has her finger on her lips.  I better put in my contacts, or get a magnifying glass.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 12, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html

Details on Celina’s lastnight alive described

 ::snipping2::
According to a source close to the family, Celina and her mom, Louisa Noyes, were sitting on the couch in the living room watching “The Secret Life of An American Teenager” together on the ABC Family Channel. When the show was over at 9 p.m., Celina decided to watch another show and was also back and forth on the family computer, which was in the living room. Louisa Noyes said goodnight to her daughter, and went upstairs to go to sleep.

Celina and her sister, Kayla, shared a bedroom in the basement of the apartment house – a finished room furnished with beds for both girls – not an air mattress on the basement floor, as has been previously reported.

There are a total of three bedrooms on the second floor: Louisa’s, another room in which family friend Kevin Mullaney was staying, and a third room where Louisa’s mother-in-law, Tommie Richards, was staying. Tommie, the Chronicle was told, has health issues and was staying overnight with Wendell and Louisa Noyes.

No one knows if Celina went downstairs to her room after her mother went to sleep. The Chronicle has been told that when Mullaney came home, it was around midnight, and he can remember coming into the living room and sitting on the couch; it was believed that Celina was in her bedroom, in her own bed.

 ::snipping2::
The Chronicle also reported that Louisa, Kayla and Kevin have moved into a new apartment out of town. Kayla and Louisa were having a difficult time staying in the apartment, and Louisa felt it was better to find another place to live. Wendell Noyes is not with them because he checked himself into a mental health facility in Concord the day after Celina’s body was found. Four years ago, Noyes was declared a paranoid schizophrenic after some odd behavior.


BBM

The computer was not in her bedroom...it was the family computer in the living room.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 12, 2011, 08:27:12 PM
In today's Colebrook Chronicle News of the Week video, Charles Jordan reports that Wendell's vehicle is still in the possession of law enforcement but that Kevin's vehicle has been returned to him.

http://www.youtube.com/user/colebrookchronicle?gl=CA&hl=en


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 08:37:30 PM
I'm thinking way outside the box, but ... that Michael Green dude (hope I have the name right) that Celina supposedly was IM'ing that night . . . well, if the computer was in the family room, who's to say *someone* else (Wendell, Kevin) didn't just pretend to be Celina.   I mean, how convenient.

Of course, that means someone would need to be conniving, shrewd,  and manipulative in an intelligent sort of way . . . seriously, could they do that?  I just don't know.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 08:38:22 PM
Tommie is Loisa's MIL  not mother.
Good heavens ~ as glued as I am to this mystery, you'd think I could remember that!  All that nosing around on Tommie Richards and I'm putting her on the float as Louisia's mother.

Keep an eye on me, 4donks.    ::MonkeyHaHa::

I need a Cliff's Notes version of this entire drama.  seriously. 
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 12, 2011, 08:44:16 PM
I'm thinking way outside the box, but ... that Michael Green dude (hope I have the name right) that Celina supposedly was IM'ing that night . . . well, if the computer was in the family room, who's to say *someone* else (Wendell, Kevin) didn't just pretend to be Celina.   I mean, how convenient.

Of course, that means someone would need to be conniving, shrewd,  and manipulative in an intelligent sort of way . . . seriously, could they do that?  I just don't know.



You may be right on target (in my opinion) he may have been pretending to be CC.  WN was a wolf in sheeps clothing.
I think little Celina was gone before sundown, IMO. The family is cover their posteriors. This is just my view.

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 08:55:41 PM
I'm thinking way outside the box, but ... that Michael Green dude (hope I have the name right) that Celina supposedly was IM'ing that night . . . well, if the computer was in the family room, who's to say *someone* else (Wendell, Kevin) didn't just pretend to be Celina.   I mean, how convenient.

Of course, that means someone would need to be conniving, shrewd,  and manipulative in an intelligent sort of way . . . seriously, could they do that?  I just don't know.



You may be right on target (in my opinion) he may have been pretending to be CC.  WN was a wolf in sheeps clothing.
I think little Celina was gone before sundown, IMO. The family is cover their posteriors. This is just my view.

 ::justice2NJ::
I think you could easily be on target. 
It infuriates me that NO ONE (meaning Louisia) will say a word.  Maybe she is soooo intimidated and scared, she won't utter a peep.  I could see that.

She appears cowed, and like we said before .... a doormat.

The dynamics of that clan must be/have been something else.  Don't you know Celina loved and excelled in school, and what a blessing that escape was.....  :sad:


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 12, 2011, 09:35:34 PM
In today's Colebrook Chronicle News of the Week video, Charles Jordan reports that Wendell's vehicle is still in the possession of law enforcement but that Kevin's vehicle has been returned to him.

http://www.youtube.com/user/colebrookchronicle?gl=CA&hl=en

Bumped


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 12, 2011, 10:04:41 PM
In today's Colebrook Chronicle News of the Week video, Charles Jordan reports that Wendell's vehicle is still in the possession of law enforcement but that Kevin's vehicle has been returned to him.

http://www.youtube.com/user/colebrookchronicle?gl=CA&hl=en

Bumped

I noticed that the newscaster (love his soothing voice  ::MonkeyWink::) said that Kevin Mullaney's vehicle has been released back to him.   ::MonkeyShocked::

Kind of surprised.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 12, 2011, 11:24:22 PM
I debated about posting this, as this is not a concrete *fact* . . . a few days ago a comment was made that I felt was geared towards some of us (I said *some* 'cause it makes me feel better. ha) who were researching the family background . . . that we should stick to the facts, and the family dynamics had nothing to do with the investigation.

I am paraphrasing the above remarks, but I felt  :oops: and  :smt102 .  So, I just decided not to post much.

Now, with all that said, I am posting the FB of the woman with the reddish-blonde hair who was constantly by Louisia's side during the events.  I haven't read all of the wall comments, and heck, by the time I go back there, she may have deleted everything!  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.facebook.com/amanda.umlah?sk=wall

It was my comment you were posting about..and you need to reread it.  No Monkey wink..it ain't cute.

I did not say I disagreed with looking at family dynamics..quite the opposite.  Family dynamics are how people interact that are related and know each other.  Ansectors long dead and first or second cousins with the last name Cass and a FB page who never met anyone involved but like to put on a show are not family dynamics....and they won't solve the crime.

I also posted when someone else said that the woman in the photos was Kayla..yes they did..that it was not her.  But I guess you missed that too.

I also believe that Casey A had less people delving into her family ancestors then what has been done here in such a short time. And all that does not change one thing...it will only be solved by people on the ground in that area with intimate knowledge of the people in that town. 

I do not find it odd that people are having fundraisers for Louisa and Kayla.  I do not find it odd that Louisa is moving.  I do not find it odd she may need furniture..do you or I know who paid for the furniture in that apartment..no..it very well may have been Wendall's..and since he is in the  hospital, as far as I know, there may be no way to reconicile that with him at this point.  In otherwords if Wendall owned the furniture just because he is in a hospital she can't just up and take it with her if she moves out.  That is against the law..you can't take what isn't yours.   Since the girls slept on an air mattress I am thinking furniture was not a big item in Louisa's mind..and I do not mean that in a negative way towards Louisa.  I don't think Louisa is trying to scam the town.  I don't think her cousin posting on facebook knows anything more then anyone else..and I think before write things on the internet they need to step back and think about how they would feel if it was them being talked about.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 12, 2011, 11:33:02 PM
Does anyone know where Wendall was the night Celina went missing?  I'm sure he checked into the hosp to buff up his defense strategy and buy some time before questioning and arrest.  He could have been using the name of a guy pretending to like Celina and lure her out of the house!  Oh, he's sick...just like Casey, pure EVIL.  IMO. I do think he did it if you can't tell.  Can one of our smart Monkeys email a news person?  It takes me an hour to type my point out so I wouldn't dare attempt to send a question and hope they understand.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 12, 2011, 11:40:02 PM
I debated about posting this, as this is not a concrete *fact* . . . a few days ago a comment was made that I felt was geared towards some of us (I said *some* 'cause it makes me feel better. ha) who were researching the family background . . . that we should stick to the facts, and the family dynamics had nothing to do with the investigation.

I am paraphrasing the above remarks, but I felt  :oops: and  :smt102 .  So, I just decided not to post much.

Now, with all that said, I am posting the FB of the woman with the reddish-blonde hair who was constantly by Louisia's side during the events.  I haven't read all of the wall comments, and heck, by the time I go back there, she may have deleted everything!  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.facebook.com/amanda.umlah?sk=wall

It was my comment you were posting about..and you need to reread it.  No Monkey wink..it ain't cute.

I did not say I disagreed with looking at family dynamics..quite the opposite.  Family dynamics are how people interact that are related and know each other.  Ansectors long dead and first or second cousins with the last name Cass and a FB page who never met anyone involved but like to put on a show are not family dynamics....and they won't solve the crime.

I also posted when someone else said that the woman in the photos was Kayla..yes they did..that it was not her.  But I guess you missed that too.

I also believe that Casey A had less people delving into her family ancestors then what has been done here in such a short time. And all that does not change one thing...it will only be solved by people on the ground in that area with intimate knowledge of the people in that town. 

I do not find it odd that people are having fundraisers for Louisa and Kayla.  I do not find it odd that Louisa is moving.  I do not find it odd she may need furniture..do you or I know who paid for the furniture in that apartment..no..it very well may have been Wendall's..and since he is in the  hospital, as far as I know, there may be no way to reconicile that with him at this point.  In otherwords if Wendall owned the furniture just because he is in a hospital she can't just up and take it with her if she moves out.  That is against the law..you can't take what isn't yours.   Since the girls slept on an air mattress I am thinking furniture was not a big item in Louisa's mind..and I do not mean that in a negative way towards Louisa.  I don't think Louisa is trying to scam the town.  I don't think her cousin posting on facebook knows anything more then anyone else..and I think before write things on the internet they need to step back and think about how they would feel if it was them being talked about.



While you make some valid points, you are also speculating on other things (i.e., the furniture may belong to Wendell).  That's what everyone here is doing at this point - speculating.  And since this is an open forum they should be allowed to do so however they see fit - whether or not it is agreeable to everyone.

I for one think it is absolutely ridiculous and ludicrous for anyone to be asking for donations for furniture when a child has been murdered.  And if Louisia wasn't aware that someone was asking for furniture donations on her behalf, she should now finally open her mouth and have them remove that request.

Nothing says grieving for a daughter who has been murdered and dumped into a river like riding on a float in a parade and allowing someone to ask for donations so that you can purchase new furniture.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 12, 2011, 11:40:27 PM
Oh, Gypsy...I really thought that she was talking about the family member (can't recall his name) that was posting on his FB page that people should know the facts and the family dynamics have nothing to do with Celina's disappearance...this guy had never met Celina.  Or the girl that said about the same thing.  I guess I was off...so my response post to tcumom was in regards to that not anything that you posted...just so you know :)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 12, 2011, 11:57:15 PM
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html

Details on Celina’s lastnight alive described

 ::snipping2::
According to a source close to the family, Celina and her mom, Louisa Noyes, were sitting on the couch in the living room watching “The Secret Life of An American Teenager” together on the ABC Family Channel. When the show was over at 9 p.m., Celina decided to watch another show and was also back and forth on the family computer, which was in the living room. Louisa Noyes said goodnight to her daughter, and went upstairs to go to sleep.

Celina and her sister, Kayla, shared a bedroom in the basement of the apartment house – a finished room furnished with beds for both girls – not an air mattress on the basement floor, as has been previously reported.

There are a total of three bedrooms on the second floor: Louisa’s, another room in which family friend Kevin Mullaney was staying, and a third room where Louisa’s mother-in-law, Tommie Richards, was staying. Tommie, the Chronicle was told, has health issues and was staying overnight with Wendell and Louisa Noyes.

No one knows if Celina went downstairs to her room after her mother went to sleep. The Chronicle has been told that when Mullaney came home, it was around midnight, and he can remember coming into the living room and sitting on the couch; it was believed that Celina was in her bedroom, in her own bed.

 ::snipping2::
The Chronicle also reported that Louisa, Kayla and Kevin have moved into a new apartment out of town. Kayla and Louisa were having a difficult time staying in the apartment, and Louisa felt it was better to find another place to live. Wendell Noyes is not with them because he checked himself into a mental health facility in Concord the day after Celina’s body was found. Four years ago, Noyes was declared a paranoid schizophrenic after some odd behavior.

TY 4DONKS..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 13, 2011, 12:06:30 AM
sorry if already posted,imgs of the service at link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024156/Celina-Cass-memorial-The-search-answers-continues.html
Tears at memorial for Celina Cass, 11, as the search for answers continuesBy Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 5:10 PM on 9th August 2011

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The circumstances and cause of her death still unknown, an 11-year-old New Hampshire girl's short life was celebrated on Monday night in a steamy school gymnasium, with friends and family members gathering to pay tribute to her in words, song and poetry.

Celina Cass was remembered as a spirited girl who was shy but starting to come out of her shell, and who always had a kind word.

 ::snipping2::
Police have seized two pick-up trucks in their investigation - one belonging to her stepfather Wendell Noyes, who has a history of mental illness, and the other driven by another man who lives at her home.

Natasha Newell, who works with Celina’s mother Louisa Noyes, said other relatives, including Louisa’s ex-boyfriend’s son, her sister and her aunt, also lived in the house.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024156/Celina-Cass-memorial-The-search-answers-continues.html#ixzz1UsOKMa00

more imgs
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/FBI-abduction-team-searches-for-missing-NH-girl-1608774.php
tommie?,and aunt or sister?
#8,#10,



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 13, 2011, 12:06:56 AM
I blew the posting so badly, I just copied and pasted it in this new box.  good grief.  ::MonkeyShocked::


That article gives me the willies, thinking about Kevin with Louisia and Kayla.  I know people probably think it's not a big deal, but that is disturbing to me.   So, I guess all this time he's been hanging around, just keeping a low profile. . . obviously, he doesn't work.

Yes, no mention of Kayla.  And, the Louisia's mom, Tommie staying there . . . but then, on the parade float it appeared as if they were strangers.  I guess it could have just been that particular shot or something.  Just trying to picture other reasons for why they seemed estranged.  Who knows .

I still don't get how Tommie and Louisia did not miss Celina that morning.  And, Kevin  *remembers* sitting on the couch when he returned home?  oh, okay?

Y'all help me with this.  At least we have a little more info.  Wonder if it's from that Amanda blah blah, whose FB link i posted this morning. hmmmmm

Not to me eother..I thin something was either reported wrong either or something with Kevin isn't right.  It was said b the first reporters of this story in the Chronicle that her pillow nad comforter were on the couch that morning she was gone.  It was also said she did not sleep alone in the basement with out Kayla and Kayla was at a sleepover at a friends.

Those stories don't meash..and I tend to believe the first story because I thought it came to the reporter via an interview with the lady that reported Celina missing ..who was brought there into the house by Kayla's searching.  If that woman was in the house that morning then she would know if a pillow and comforter were on the couch at that time.  Yes..it could have been someone else's..but not only she said that..but her aunt that lives in the house said Celina would sleep on the couch when her sister was away.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 13, 2011, 12:24:21 AM
I debated about posting this, as this is not a concrete *fact* . . . a few days ago a comment was made that I felt was geared towards some of us (I said *some* 'cause it makes me feel better. ha) who were researching the family background . . . that we should stick to the facts, and the family dynamics had nothing to do with the investigation.

I am paraphrasing the above remarks, but I felt  :oops: and  :smt102 .  So, I just decided not to post much.

Now, with all that said, I am posting the FB of the woman with the reddish-blonde hair who was constantly by Louisia's side during the events.  I haven't read all of the wall comments, and heck, by the time I go back there, she may have deleted everything!  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.facebook.com/amanda.umlah?sk=wall

It was my comment you were posting about..and you need to reread it.  No Monkey wink..it ain't cute.

I did not say I disagreed with looking at family dynamics..quite the opposite.  Family dynamics are how people interact that are related and know each other.  Ansectors long dead and first or second cousins with the last name Cass and a FB page who never met anyone involved but like to put on a show are not family dynamics....and they won't solve the crime.

I also posted when someone else said that the woman in the photos was Kayla..yes they did..that it was not her.  But I guess you missed that too.

I also believe that Casey A had less people delving into her family ancestors then what has been done here in such a short time. And all that does not change one thing...it will only be solved by people on the ground in that area with intimate knowledge of the people in that town. 

I do not find it odd that people are having fundraisers for Louisa and Kayla.  I do not find it odd that Louisa is moving.  I do not find it odd she may need furniture..do you or I know who paid for the furniture in that apartment..no..it very well may have been Wendall's..and since he is in the  hospital, as far as I know, there may be no way to reconicile that with him at this point.  In otherwords if Wendall owned the furniture just because he is in a hospital she can't just up and take it with her if she moves out.  That is against the law..you can't take what isn't yours.   Since the girls slept on an air mattress I am thinking furniture was not a big item in Louisa's mind..and I do not mean that in a negative way towards Louisa.  I don't think Louisa is trying to scam the town.  I don't think her cousin posting on facebook knows anything more then anyone else..and I think before write things on the internet they need to step back and think about how they would feel if it was them being talked about.



While you make some valid points, you are also speculating on other things (i.e., the furniture may belong to Wendell).  That's what everyone here is doing at this point - speculating.  And since this is an open forum they should be allowed to do so however they see fit - whether or not it is agreeable to everyone.

I for one think it is absolutely ridiculous and ludicrous for anyone to be asking for donations for furniture when a child has been murdered.  And if Louisia wasn't aware that someone was asking for furniture donations on her behalf, she should now finally open her mouth and have them remove that request.

Nothing says grieving for a daughter who has been murdered and dumped into a river like riding on a float in a parade and allowing someone to ask for donations so that you can purchase new furniture.



First of all..again..you and I don't know these people or this town.  You may think you do but you don't anymore then I do.

Who or where did you read "she"..I take it Louisa is who you mean, ever asked for anything  from anyone...

That's my issue..I posted above that I did not find it odd that someone would have a fundraiser for her..for whatever the person having the fundraiser wants to do for them.  Where do you find Louisa asking for this?  I haven't read anywhere that Louisa said she needed this or that and so they are having a fundraiser.  This is a very small town..and the towns around them are small.  I would think those people have the right to decide if they want to do a fundraiser and what is acceptable to them....we aren't there.  I don't find it odd for people to help each other in whatever way they can in small towns.  And I don't take it that Louisa put them up to this or told them anything.  I take it that she moved out..has a 13 year old daughter..has a daughter who is dead..and the town is helping in the best way they can.

For goodness sake..do you all really believe that Louisa is scamming the town for funiture..or that they would let her?  They aren't having a national fundraiser..they aren't asking for time on TV..they aren't selling pictures to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN or going on HLN.  A local band is simply having a fundraiser.

That has been my whole point..this is a very, very small town....800 people..they are intimately aware of each other....more so then long lost cousins and long dead ancestors.  If you want to solve this crime..boots on the ground..keep your ear to the pavement..local people..people who rented the other apartments in that house..that is who know the family dynamics..not cousins they never met or dead ancestors.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 13, 2011, 12:28:01 AM
It's been cleared up that Tommie is Wendell's mother and was sleeping on the second floor that night due to health issues.  She left the next morning.

As far as Kevin, it's also been cleared up that his red pickup has been returned to him by police and Wendell's is still in police custody.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 13, 2011, 12:49:25 AM
First of all..... you need to re-read my post.  I never claimed to know the people of this town.  Please show me where I stated that. 

Secondly, please don't put words into my mouth.  Again, I never stated that Louisia was asking for donations for furniture.  Please re-read - I used the word anyone, following it up with -  And if Louisia wasn't aware that someone was asking for furniture donations on her behalf, she should now finally open her mouth and have them remove that request.  So please don't misquote me since it's clear what I said.

Thirdly and finally, I never said that I think that Luisiia is scamming the town for furniture and I don't like when people misconstrue and twist around a post.

I am simply stating that it is my opinion that no one should be asking for donations for anything other than funeral expenses and should not be including expenses for moving issues.  Please remember that I said "no one". 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 13, 2011, 12:50:12 AM
I debated about posting this, as this is not a concrete *fact* . . . a few days ago a comment was made that I felt was geared towards some of us (I said *some* 'cause it makes me feel better. ha) who were researching the family background . . . that we should stick to the facts, and the family dynamics had nothing to do with the investigation.

I am paraphrasing the above remarks, but I felt  :oops: and  :smt102 .  So, I just decided not to post much.

Now, with all that said, I am posting the FB of the woman with the reddish-blonde hair who was constantly by Louisia's side during the events.  I haven't read all of the wall comments, and heck, by the time I go back there, she may have deleted everything!  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.facebook.com/amanda.umlah?sk=wall

It was my comment you were posting about..and you need to reread it.  No Monkey wink..it ain't cute.

I did not say I disagreed with looking at family dynamics..quite the opposite.  Family dynamics are how people interact that are related and know each other.  Ansectors long dead and first or second cousins with the last name Cass and a FB page who never met anyone involved but like to put on a show are not family dynamics....and they won't solve the crime.

I also posted when someone else said that the woman in the photos was Kayla..yes they did..that it was not her.  But I guess you missed that too.

I also believe that Casey A had less people delving into her family ancestors then what has been done here in such a short time. And all that does not change one thing...it will only be solved by people on the ground in that area with intimate knowledge of the people in that town. 

I do not find it odd that people are having fundraisers for Louisa and Kayla.  I do not find it odd that Louisa is moving.  I do not find it odd she may need furniture..do you or I know who paid for the furniture in that apartment..no..it very well may have been Wendall's..and since he is in the  hospital, as far as I know, there may be no way to reconicile that with him at this point.  In otherwords if Wendall owned the furniture just because he is in a hospital she can't just up and take it with her if she moves out.  That is against the law..you can't take what isn't yours.   Since the girls slept on an air mattress I am thinking furniture was not a big item in Louisa's mind..and I do not mean that in a negative way towards Louisa.  I don't think Louisa is trying to scam the town.  I don't think her cousin posting on facebook knows anything more then anyone else..and I think before write things on the internet they need to step back and think about how they would feel if it was them being talked about.



While you make some valid points, you are also speculating on other things (i.e., the furniture may belong to Wendell).  That's what everyone here is doing at this point - speculating.  And since this is an open forum they should be allowed to do so however they see fit - whether or not it is agreeable to everyone.

I for one think it is absolutely ridiculous and ludicrous for anyone to be asking for donations for furniture when a child has been murdered.   And if Louisia wasn't aware that someone was asking for furniture donations on her behalf, she should now finally open her mouth and have them remove that request.

Nothing says grieving for a daughter who has been murdered and dumped into a river like riding on a float in a parade and allowing someone to ask for donations so that you can purchase new furniture.


See..my point exactly..where did you read that Louisa was asking for donations of any kind..much less furniture?

I read a blurb by a band that is having a fundraiser for the family that they hope to raise money for them.  I also read that they need new furniture in that same blurb because of moving out.   Does that mean Louisa asked them to do that...IDK and neither do you.  And if they actually need the furniture..and the band wants to provide it through a fundraiser..and the people who go are aware of that fact when they buy their tickets and if they then donate extra money..what harm does that do to anyone?

Why when a woman's 11 year old daughter has just been murdered would you do this?  She has not been named as a suspect even by you.  Do you think she has an ulterior motive..that she will resell the furniture in the little shop she works at/  I know you do not think that..or atleast I hope you do not.  This lady, Louisa, obviously worked and yet lived hand to mouth..as many people do right now in our economy.  So what is the point of bashing her and the people in the town that want to help her?  I just don't get that ..

I might not ride a float in my child's honor..but then again who knows..I am not in that position.  Small town events..this one dedicated to her daughter remember..are different.  I live in a very small historical town..believe me they are different then big cities and even small towns outside of big cities.  Although she may not have wanted to do that..and the others on the float may not have either..they may have felt it was the right thing to do at the time given the way the town supported them.  Grief is a very funny thing..


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 13, 2011, 12:51:20 AM
It's been cleared up that Tommie is Wendell's mother and was sleeping on the second floor that night due to health issues.  She left the next morning.

As far as Kevin, it's also been cleared up that his red pickup has been returned to him by police and Wendell's is still in police custody.




http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf

Kevin’s vehicle has been
reportedly released and will be
returned to him


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 13, 2011, 01:11:44 AM
I debated about posting this, as this is not a concrete *fact* . . . a few days ago a comment was made that I felt was geared towards some of us (I said *some* 'cause it makes me feel better. ha) who were researching the family background . . . that we should stick to the facts, and the family dynamics had nothing to do with the investigation.

I am paraphrasing the above remarks, but I felt  :oops: and  :smt102 .  So, I just decided not to post much.

Now, with all that said, I am posting the FB of the woman with the reddish-blonde hair who was constantly by Louisia's side during the events.  I haven't read all of the wall comments, and heck, by the time I go back there, she may have deleted everything!  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.facebook.com/amanda.umlah?sk=wall

It was my comment you were posting about..and you need to reread it.  No Monkey wink..it ain't cute.

I did not say I disagreed with looking at family dynamics..quite the opposite.  Family dynamics are how people interact that are related and know each other.  Ansectors long dead and first or second cousins with the last name Cass and a FB page who never met anyone involved but like to put on a show are not family dynamics....and they won't solve the crime.

I also posted when someone else said that the woman in the photos was Kayla..yes they did..that it was not her.  But I guess you missed that too.

I also believe that Casey A had less people delving into her family ancestors then what has been done here in such a short time. And all that does not change one thing...it will only be solved by people on the ground in that area with intimate knowledge of the people in that town. 

I do not find it odd that people are having fundraisers for Louisa and Kayla.  I do not find it odd that Louisa is moving.  I do not find it odd she may need furniture..do you or I know who paid for the furniture in that apartment..no..it very well may have been Wendall's..and since he is in the  hospital, as far as I know, there may be no way to reconicile that with him at this point.  In otherwords if Wendall owned the furniture just because he is in a hospital she can't just up and take it with her if she moves out.  That is against the law..you can't take what isn't yours.   Since the girls slept on an air mattress I am thinking furniture was not a big item in Louisa's mind..and I do not mean that in a negative way towards Louisa.  I don't think Louisa is trying to scam the town.  I don't think her cousin posting on facebook knows anything more then anyone else..and I think before write things on the internet they need to step back and think about how they would feel if it was them being talked about.



While you make some valid points, you are also speculating on other things (i.e., the furniture may belong to Wendell).  That's what everyone here is doing at this point - speculating.  And since this is an open forum they should be allowed to do so however they see fit - whether or not it is agreeable to everyone.

I for one think it is absolutely ridiculous and ludicrous for anyone to be asking for donations for furniture when a child has been murdered.   And if Louisia wasn't aware that someone was asking for furniture donations on her behalf, she should now finally open her mouth and have them remove that request.

Nothing says grieving for a daughter who has been murdered and dumped into a river like riding on a float in a parade and allowing someone to ask for donations so that you can purchase new furniture.


See..my point exactly..where did you read that Louisa was asking for donations of any kind..much less furniture?

I read a blurb by a band that is having a fundraiser for the family that they hope to raise money for them.  I also read that they need new furniture in that same blurb because of moving out.   Does that mean Louisa asked them to do that...IDK and neither do you.  And if they actually need the furniture..and the band wants to provide it through a fundraiser..and the people who go are aware of that fact when they buy their tickets and if they then donate extra money..what harm does that do to anyone?

Why when a woman's 11 year old daughter has just been murdered would you do this?  She has not been named as a suspect even by you.  Do you think she has an ulterior motive..that she will resell the furniture in the little shop she works at/  I know you do not think that..or atleast I hope you do not.  This lady, Louisa, obviously worked and yet lived hand to mouth..as many people do right now in our economy.  So what is the point of bashing her and the people in the town that want to help her?  I just don't get that ..

I might not ride a float in my child's honor..but then again who knows..I am not in that position.  Small town events..this one dedicated to her daughter remember..are different.  I live in a very small historical town..believe me they are different then big cities and even small towns outside of big cities.  Although she may not have wanted to do that..and the others on the float may not have either..they may have felt it was the right thing to do at the time given the way the town supported them.  Grief is a very funny thing..

I see that you did not read my reply or you would know that I clearly did not say that Louisia (correct spelling) was asking for donations of any kind, much less furniture.  I am aware that the Lero family asked for donations for funeral expenses, which is understandable.  Also, it was a band throwing a fund raiser.  So please stop putting word in my mouth because I really resent it.  I don't know how else to make this clear to you so except to ask you to please re-read my above post. 



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 13, 2011, 01:52:17 AM
Pattianne..If you look at my history of posting here on SM you will know I do not put words in people's mouths..I find they do that themselves and I do that enough for my own self..if you get what I mean.

I just want to have Celina's murderer in jail..and the ancestors aren't doing that for me.  That was my only point.  Well..besides the one about boots on the ground..and that I stick with..unless we are there, we really don't have much of a handle on this one..the townspeople do though..and the ones that were close aren't talking..we don't even know who else lived in the house/building besides her aunt and cousin.  It has been a very closed community and a closed investigation.  Let's hope that helps get the info they need and put the perp behind bars.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 13, 2011, 09:28:53 AM
I am still wondering about the difference in where they slept from the first reports to today.

The first reports were air mattresses in the basement with Celina sleeping on the couch when Kayla was away.  The Chronicle said that Celina's comforter and pillow were on the couch the next morning.  Now we hear Kevin came home and watched TV on that couch..nothing more about the comforter and pillow.

Did Celina sleep on the couch..did she ever make it to bed that night...or did all this happen before Kevin got home at midnight?

Pattianne my apologies for offending you.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 13, 2011, 09:40:20 AM
Gmorning.
Hi dd!
As it stands with me, I can't read into/or believe what is put out for the public atm.
I'm just waiting for an official statement from Le department.
After saying that, they could throw another curve ball too, just like from the get go.  It's suspicious, well ya -  body was rapped in a blanket! 
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Samarie on August 13, 2011, 10:23:54 AM
Furniture-Isn't it possible, given Louisa's apartment was cordoned off and identified as a crime scene, that some of the furniture in the home is in the possession of LE and tagged as "evidence?"  I personally don't have issues with local town folks reaching out to help the families of the victim in any way. This is not at all unusual, or even questionable in my mind after having lived in a small Northern New England town for much of my adult life...just saying


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
Was there official confirmation that Celina slept on the couch the night she went missing?

Janet

+++++

Search for girl intensifies ; FBI sends child abduction team; home cordoned as crime scene
 
<snipped>

Friends and family waved down cars with missing person posters yesterday along Route 3, outside the home where Cass was last seen at 9 p.m. Monday. She shares the first-floor apartment in the teal- trimmed Victorian home with her mother, Louisa Noyes, stepfather Wendell Noyes and older sister, according to Cass's aunt Lori McKearney.

Cass would have slept on the living room couch Monday night, her aunt said, because the girl is scared to stay in the basement alone and her sister was sleeping at a friend's house. That friend, Kaylin Pettat, said Cass is a shy kid "but the nicest girl you've ever met."

<snipped>

July 28, 2011


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 13, 2011, 12:41:57 PM
Was there official confirmation that Celina slept on the couch the night she went missing?

Janet

+++++

Search for girl intensifies ; FBI sends child abduction team; home cordoned as crime scene
 
<snipped>

Friends and family waved down cars with missing person posters yesterday along Route 3, outside the home where Cass was last seen at 9 p.m. Monday. She shares the first-floor apartment in the teal- trimmed Victorian home with her mother, Louisa Noyes, stepfather Wendell Noyes and older sister, according to Cass's aunt Lori McKearney.

Cass would have slept on the living room couch Monday night, her aunt said, because the girl is scared to stay in the basement alone and her sister was sleeping at a friend's house. That friend, Kaylin Pettat, said Cass is a shy kid "but the nicest girl you've ever met."

<snipped>

July 28, 2011
I don't think so . . . that is one of the many questions I keep wondering .  If only we had some answers . ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 01:11:18 PM
Thanks tcumom

Considering Celina's mother/stepfather was not waken ... could it be that something bad happened in the basement following a sexual assault?  Could it be that Celina was then wrapped in her blanket ... placed in the truck and ... thrown into the nearby body of water?

I believe that Wendal had serious psychological problems but ... his history reveals that sexual assault against underage girls is not one of them.

However ... the brother's history alleging that he was known to hit on girls as young as eleven years old is another story.

IMO

Janet



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 01:53:48 PM
Was there official confirmation that Celina slept on the couch the night she went missing?

Janet

+++++

Search for girl intensifies ; FBI sends child abduction team; home cordoned as crime scene
 
<snipped>

Friends and family waved down cars with missing person posters yesterday along Route 3, outside the home where Cass was last seen at 9 p.m. Monday. She shares the first-floor apartment in the teal- trimmed Victorian home with her mother, Louisa Noyes, stepfather Wendell Noyes and older sister, according to Cass's aunt Lori McKearney.

Cass would have slept on the living room couch Monday night, her aunt said, because the girl is scared to stay in the basement alone and her sister was sleeping at a friend's house. That friend, Kaylin Pettat, said Cass is a shy kid "but the nicest girl you've ever met."

<snipped>

July 28, 2011


http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:1466433320&isRss=true


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 13, 2011, 05:45:39 PM
Thanks tcumom

Considering Celina's mother/stepfather was not waken ... could it be that something bad happened in the basement following a sexual assault?  Could it be that Celina was then wrapped in her blanket ... placed in the truck and ... thrown into the nearby body of water?

I believe that Wendal had serious psychological problems but ... his history reveals that sexual assault against underage girls is not one of them.

However ... the brother's history alleging that he was known to hit on girls as young as eleven years old is another story.

IMO

Janet




Wendall is in the mental health facility..but yet I agree there was never any history of his for abusing children in any way whatever.  His truck is still impounded...but we don't know who else was there that night..even in the upper apartments that may have had acces to their apartment and his truck keys.  I don't know rather to think of Wendall as the perp or the perfect fall guy for the perp due to his mental health history.

I also wonder if Louisia/s sister and her daughter still live in the house or if they have moved too.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 13, 2011, 07:56:50 PM
snipped...

July 25: Celina’s Last
Night At Her Home..

According to a source close to
the family, Celina and her
mother, Louisa Noyes, were
sitting on the couch in the living
room watching “The Secret
Life of An American Teenager”
together on the ABC Family
Channel. When the show was
over at 9 p.m., Celina decided to
watch another show and was
also back and forth on the family
computer, which was in the
living room. Louisa said goodnight
to her daughter, and went
upstairs to the second floor of
the apartment to go to sleep.
Celina and her sister, Kayla,
shared a bedroom in the basement
of the apartment house—
a finished room furnished with
beds for both girls—not an air
mattress on the basement floor,
as has been previously reported.
There are a total of three
bedrooms on the second floor:
Louisa’s, one room in which
family friend Kevin Mullaney
was staying, and a third room
where Louisa’s mother-in-law,
Tommie Richards, was staying.
Tommie, we have been told, has
some health issues and had
been staying overnight with
Wendell and Louisa for a few
months now so that they could
help look after her; she was
going to her own home in the
mornings.

continued..

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 13, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
Thanks tcumom

Considering Celina's mother/stepfather was not waken ... could it be that something bad happened in the basement following a sexual assault?  Could it be that Celina was then wrapped in her blanket ... placed in the truck and ... thrown into the nearby body of water?

I believe that Wendal had serious psychological problems but ... his history reveals that sexual assault against underage girls is not one of them.

However ... the brother's history alleging that he was known to hit on girls as young as eleven years old is another story.

IMO

Janet




Wendall is in the mental health facility..but yet I agree there was never any history of his for abusing children in any way whatever.  His truck is still impounded...but we don't know who else was there that night..even in the upper apartments that may have had acces to their apartment and his truck keys.  I don't know rather to think of Wendall as the perp or the perfect fall guy for the perp due to his mental health history.

I also wonder if Louisia/s sister and her daughter still live in the house or if they have moved too.



Snipped..

The Chronicle also reported
that Louisa, Kayla and Kevin
have moved into a new apartment
out of town. Kayla has
been having a difficult time
staying in the apartment, as
has Louisa, and Louisa felt it
was better to find another place
to live.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 13, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
Snipped..

No one knows if Celina went
downstairs to her own room
after her mother went to sleep.
Tommie was already in bed,
Celina’s sister Kayla was at a
friend’s house for the night, and
Kevin was out. We have been
told that when Kevin came
home, it was around midnight,
and he can remember coming
into the living room and sitting
on the couch; it was believed
that Celina was actually in her
bedroom, in her own bed, at
that time.
In the morning, Tommie
Richards left to go to her home
and, by 8:15, Louisa left the
house to go to work in Colebrook.
Wendell went to wake up
Celina because she had an appointment
at 9 a.m. at a local
hairdresser shop. But Wendell
did not find her in her bed and,
after searching the house to see
if she was elsewhere, called
Louisa at work to tell her that
Celina wasn’t in the apartment.
That was around 9:15 a.m.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 13, 2011, 08:10:30 PM
snipped..

being conducted in the area,
and police are holding onto two
vehicles removed from the
driveway, one belonging to
Kevin Mullaney, which was
removed on July 27, and one
belonging to Wendell Noyes,
which was removed on Aug. 2—
the day after Celina’s body was
found. Kevin’s vehicle has been
reportedly released and will be
returned to him. Two other ve-
hicles on the property have also
been removed and returned.
Police have not named a suspect
and autopsy results are pending,
with toxicology tests and a
criminal investigation now underway..

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 13, 2011, 08:13:19 PM
snipped..

Wendell is still a
patient as of yesterday in an
undisclosed facility. At one
time, his children and extended
family listed him as a friend on
Facebook—today his name no
longer appears on their sites.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 13, 2011, 09:12:02 PM
Thanks tcumom

Considering Celina's mother/stepfather was not waken ... could it be that something bad happened in the basement following a sexual assault?  Could it be that Celina was then wrapped in her blanket ... placed in the truck and ... thrown into the nearby body of water?

I believe that Wendal had serious psychological problems but ... his history reveals that sexual assault against underage girls is not one of them.

However ... the brother's history alleging that he was known to hit on girls as young as eleven years old is another story.

IMO

Janet




Wendall is in the mental health facility..but yet I agree there was never any history of his for abusing children in any way whatever.  His truck is still impounded...but we don't know who else was there that night..even in the upper apartments that may have had acces to their apartment and his truck keys.  I don't know rather to think of Wendall as the perp or the perfect fall guy for the perp due to his mental health history.

I also wonder if Louisia/s sister and her daughter still live in the house or if they have moved too.



Snipped..

The Chronicle also reported
that Louisa, Kayla and Kevin
have moved into a new apartment
out of town. Kayla has
been having a difficult time
staying in the apartment, as
has Louisa, and Louisa felt it
was better to find another place
to live.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf

The article doesn't give us any hints as to rather Louisa's sister and her daughter, who would be Louisa's neice, have stayed there or left the apartment house.  I still wonder who all was in the entire house that night and if doors were locked between apartments and the also to the outside. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2011, 09:38:48 AM
snipped..

Wendell is still a
patient as of yesterday in an
undisclosed facility. At one
time, his children and extended
family listed him as a friend on
Facebook—today his name no
longer appears on their sites.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf

Tyler Noyes still lists him as a friend.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 14, 2011, 12:51:32 PM
This is a 2 1/2 minute or so video that I have never seen. 

It has a very short segment with Melissa Jordan, the young woman who lived in the same building up until about 3 weeks before Celina's death.

It is one of the best videos on this family and town.

I'll post the link to the news station, and then the info I put in to find the video.  Sorry I don't know how to imbed (?) the video.

http://www.necn.com/pages/video

And then, I put the words below into search:

Behind Celina's Family Life


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 14, 2011, 06:50:37 PM
This is a 2 1/2 minute or so video that I have never seen. 

It has a very short segment with Melissa Jordan, the young woman who lived in the same building up until about 3 weeks before Celina's death.

It is one of the best videos on this family and town.

I'll post the link to the news station, and then the info I put in to find the video.  Sorry I don't know how to imbed (?) the video.

http://www.necn.com/pages/video

And then, I put the words below into search:

Behind Celina's Family Life

Good evening Monkey's,

Thanks, tcumom for the link. Norma Richardson, is the aunt to WN?  Norma is the sister to the mom of WN?  A Witch Doctor helped out :)

Where is the mysterious woman on the float? she floated away :) Was it her mom?  A very strict faced mom had in parade pic.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 14, 2011, 06:57:18 PM
snipped..

Wendell is still a
patient as of yesterday in an
undisclosed facility. At one
time, his children and extended
family listed him as a friend on
Facebook—today his name no
longer appears on their sites.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf

Tyler Noyes still lists him as a friend.

If only, WN would have tried, to help the wounded warriors (or others like himself), he would have stayed out of trouble.
He decided to make a second career of smut, and he threw his brain away.  IMO.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 14, 2011, 07:13:40 PM
This is a 2 1/2 minute or so video that I have never seen. 

It has a very short segment with Melissa Jordan, the young woman who lived in the same building up until about 3 weeks before Celina's death.

It is one of the best videos on this family and town.

I'll post the link to the news station, and then the info I put in to find the video.  Sorry I don't know how to imbed (?) the video.

http://www.necn.com/pages/video

And then, I put the words below into search:

Behind Celina's Family Life

Good evening Monkey's,

Thanks, tcumom for the link. Norma Richardson, is the aunt to WN?  Norma is the sister to the mom of WN?  A Witch Doctor helped out :)

Where is the mysterious woman on the float? she floated away :) Was it her mom?  A very strict faced mom had in parade pic.
Hi seahorse ~ I need to get my brain back into this mode .  Been working on lesson plans all day .  ugh.
That's what I got out of the video .  Sister to Tommie Richards . 
So ~ Norma Richardson and Tommie Richards are sisters ?   


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 14, 2011, 07:16:49 PM
snipped..

Wendell is still a
patient as of yesterday in an
undisclosed facility. At one
time, his children and extended
family listed him as a friend on
Facebook—today his name no
longer appears on their sites.

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf

Tyler Noyes still lists him as a friend.

If only, WN would have tried, to help the wounded warriors (or others like himself), he would have stayed out of trouble.
He decided to make a second career of smut, and he threw his brain away.  IMO.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::
I so agree with you.
Although he has never had (that we're aware of) any charges of sex abuse/harassment or anything along those lines, it wouldn't surprise me if he's involved. 
I guess I'm not giving him the benefit . . . but, heck, look at his FB junk.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 14, 2011, 07:18:11 PM
This is a 2 1/2 minute or so video that I have never seen. 

It has a very short segment with Melissa Jordan, the young woman who lived in the same building up until about 3 weeks before Celina's death.

It is one of the best videos on this family and town.

I'll post the link to the news station, and then the info I put in to find the video.  Sorry I don't know how to imbed (?) the video.

http://www.necn.com/pages/video

And then, I put the words below into search:

Behind Celina's Family Life

Good evening Monkey's,

Thanks, tcumom for the link. Norma Richardson, is the aunt to WN?  Norma is the sister to the mom of WN?  A Witch Doctor helped out :)

Where is the mysterious woman on the float? she floated away :) Was it her mom?  A very strict faced mom had in parade pic.




The lady in the video is Wendall's aunt..so that would make her a sister to the lady on the float who was reported to be Wendall's mother.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 14, 2011, 07:31:25 PM
This is a 2 1/2 minute or so video that I have never seen. 

It has a very short segment with Melissa Jordan, the young woman who lived in the same building up until about 3 weeks before Celina's death.

It is one of the best videos on this family and town.

I'll post the link to the news station, and then the info I put in to find the video.  Sorry I don't know how to imbed (?) the video.

http://www.necn.com/pages/video

And then, I put the words below into search:

Behind Celina's Family Life

Good evening Monkey's,

Thanks, tcumom for the link. Norma Richardson, is the aunt to WN?  Norma is the sister to the mom of WN?  A Witch Doctor helped out :)

Where is the mysterious woman on the float? she floated away :) Was it her mom?  A very strict faced mom had in parade pic.




The lady in the video is Wendall's aunt..so that would make her a sister to the lady on the float who was reported to be Wendall's mother.

Now I am really confused. I thought the lady with the brown hair sitting on the sidelines during the parade was W's mother, Tommie Richards.

I know someone on here said the woman with the long gray hair on the parade float was Louisa's mother. Then, I read that Celina was to be buried in the cemetery next to Louisa's mother... So if the gray haired lady isn't Louisa's mother or mother-in-law who is she?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 14, 2011, 07:39:01 PM

Now I am really confused. I thought the lady with the brown hair sitting on the sidelines during the parade was W's mother, Tommie Richards.

I know someone on here said the woman with the long gray hair on the parade float was Louisa's mother. Then, I read that Celina was to be buried in the cemetery next to Louisa's mother... So if the gray haired lady isn't Louisa's mother or mother-in-law who is she?

You're not alone!  That is exactly what I understood, also.   In fact, there was a tag under Tommie Richards photo saying that's who it is . 

I thought it was definitely said that the woman on the float with the purple flowers in her hair was Louisia's mother. 

::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 14, 2011, 07:59:31 PM
I wish someone local was on here to help with some of the info we are getting.

Depending on what article you are reading there are different reports on who is who..and even on where Celina slept that night, and even the fact that was reported earlier that her comforter and pillow were on the couch..yet now it appears the Chronicle is saying she slept in her room in the basement on a bed..not an air mattress..which the air mattresses in the basement were reported earlier.  Celina not sleeping in the basement alone was reported earlier..different women appear to be her step grandmom/Wendall's Mom....and I am still not sure how many people, and who they were, that lived in the apartment house.  It was reported early on that Celina's Mom's sister and her daughter lived there, in their own apartment...it is very confusing.

Maybe the lady on the float is Louisa'a step mother or Wendall's step mother..I don't even know if they have step parents..but this is like a cats cradle to figure out.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 14, 2011, 08:33:06 PM
Just wanted to say I said in the above post that different women appear to be her step grandmom/ Wendall's Mom..because that is the only way I can see the lady on the float being either Louisa's Mom or Wendall's Mom.  Wendall's Mom is said to be the lady in the picture with short brown hair in the pic watching the parade..and Louisa's mom for all intents is dead if Celina was buried beside her...so I am lost on the family unless there are step parents on Wendall's and Louisa's side..or bad reporting about about is who and who they belong to in the scheme of this case.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 14, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
Lord, lots of bad typos on my above posts..but you get my drift..who is who and who is related to who and how they are related is getting very tangled..I am stopping now..because I am more confused then before...either poor reporting or there are step parents..or the lady on the float is Louisa's aunt on her mother's side that hasn't been reported as such yet ( BECAUSE  SHE DOESN'T LOOK DEAD AND BURIED)..or..who in the heck knows..

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyJnBox::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 14, 2011, 09:06:47 PM
Okay..Louisa's mother is dead and buried..so can't be her.  Celina is said to be buried beside her.  Wendall's mother is on the sidelines watching the parade in a lawn chair..the lady on the float is who?

I am about to say someone they rented for the parade but that is mean...so she is either a step mother or aunt to either Louisa or Wendall or ?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 14, 2011, 11:17:31 PM

Now I am really confused. I thought the lady with the brown hair sitting on the sidelines during the parade was W's mother, Tommie Richards.

I know someone on here said the woman with the long gray hair on the parade float was Louisa's mother. Then, I read that Celina was to be buried in the cemetery next to Louisa's mother... So if the gray haired lady isn't Louisa's mother or mother-in-law who is she?

You're not alone!  That is exactly what I understood, also.   In fact, there was a tag under Tommie Richards photo saying that's who it is . 

I thought it was definitely said that the woman on the float with the purple flowers in her hair was Louisia's mother. 

::MonkeyEek::

I think I have seen that woman on the float when I was looking for people related to Celina the other day. It was the same time there was a flack over researching relatives, so I didn't share or save anything I found. The photo I saw was a woman with her gray hair pulled into a bun. i had been looking up the Hubbards that were listed in the obit among many others that day. Could she be Beverly Hibbard? BH is 52 years old and Elliot is 49 and the obit listed them as Nana and Papa.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 14, 2011, 11:31:05 PM

Now I am really confused. I thought the lady with the brown hair sitting on the sidelines during the parade was W's mother, Tommie Richards.

I know someone on here said the woman with the long gray hair on the parade float was Louisa's mother. Then, I read that Celina was to be buried in the cemetery next to Louisa's mother... So if the gray haired lady isn't Louisa's mother or mother-in-law who is she?

You're not alone!  That is exactly what I understood, also.   In fact, there was a tag under Tommie Richards photo saying that's who it is . 

I thought it was definitely said that the woman on the float with the purple flowers in her hair was Louisia's mother. 

::MonkeyEek::

I think I have seen that woman on the float when I was looking for people related to Celina the other day. It was the same time there was a flack over researching relatives, so I didn't share or save anything I found. The photo I saw was a woman with her gray hair pulled into a bun. i had been looking up the Hubbards that were listed in the obit among many others that day. Could she be Beverly Hibbard? BH is 52 years old and Elliot is 49 and the obit listed them as Nana and Papa.
That sure could be a possibility. . . now that I've said that, did she appear older than 52 years?  Heck, with the way things are these days, it's a miracle any of us look decent!
I remember coming across Beverly and Elliott Hibbard, too ~ and those were the ages.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 14, 2011, 11:41:12 PM

Now I am really confused. I thought the lady with the brown hair sitting on the sidelines during the parade was W's mother, Tommie Richards.

I know someone on here said the woman with the long gray hair on the parade float was Louisa's mother. Then, I read that Celina was to be buried in the cemetery next to Louisa's mother... So if the gray haired lady isn't Louisa's mother or mother-in-law who is she?

You're not alone!  That is exactly what I understood, also.   In fact, there was a tag under Tommie Richards photo saying that's who it is . 

I thought it was definitely said that the woman on the float with the purple flowers in her hair was Louisia's mother. 

::MonkeyEek::

I think I have seen that woman on the float when I was looking for people related to Celina the other day. It was the same time there was a flack over researching relatives, so I didn't share or save anything I found. The photo I saw was a woman with her gray hair pulled into a bun. i had been looking up the Hubbards that were listed in the obit among many others that day. Could she be Beverly Hibbard? BH is 52 years old and Elliot is 49 and the obit listed them as Nana and Papa.
That sure could be a possibility. . . now that I've said that, did she appear older than 52 years?  Heck, with the way things are these days, it's a miracle any of us look decent!
I remember coming across Beverly and Elliott Hibbard, too ~ and those were the ages.

Here is a FB photo in Elliott (2 ts) Hibbards profile photos that shows him at his son's wedding in May. I am assuming the lady in the wedding photos with him is Beverly. I think it is possible it was her on the float, comparing noses and mouths in the float photo with his wedding shot.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=107557622666740&set=a.107557616000074.20759.100002375098256&type=1&theater


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 14, 2011, 11:50:22 PM
Here is a FB photo in Elliott (2 ts) Hibbards profile photos that shows him at his son's wedding in May. I am assuming the lady in the wedding photos with him is Beverly. I think it is possible it was her on the float, comparing noses and mouths in the float photo with his wedding shot.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=107557622666740&set=a.107557616000074.20759.100002375098256&type=1&theater
That is great!   ::MonkeyCool::

~ I think that's who it is, too ~ you know what makes me think that?  Her hair! 
The color is so strikingly silver . . and I agree about the nose and mouth...

I'll cruise over to the pictures on this thread and see if I can find her on the float.  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 14, 2011, 11:58:23 PM
I just looked at Elliott Hibbard's FB again, and the pic that has Beverly and Elliott and the bride and groom.....yep, I think she is the one on the float.    ::MonkeyCool::

You know what I feel so bad about is that soooo many of these folks we've found on FB work at that Grand Balsams Resort, and it sounds as if that place is closing for good in September or so.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 15, 2011, 12:07:42 AM
I just looked at Elliott Hibbard's FB again, and the pic that has Beverly and Elliott and the bride and groom.....yep, I think she is the one on the float.    ::MonkeyCool::

You know what I feel so bad about is that soooo many of these folks we've found on FB work at that Grand Balsams Resort, and it sounds as if that place is closing for good in September or so.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 I remember seeing several people who work there, but I must have spaced the part about them closing. That is a shame. I don't imagine there are too many jobs in the area. We had an older relative who was born in Colebrook, but left there for college in the 20s. He was really happy to be out of there, said he never fit in to the rural life. I'm just so glad his last name hasn't popped up in this mess. LOL I don't think there are any relatives left there.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 12:15:54 AM
I just looked at Elliott Hibbard's FB again, and the pic that has Beverly and Elliott and the bride and groom.....yep, I think she is the one on the float.    ::MonkeyCool::

You know what I feel so bad about is that soooo many of these folks we've found on FB work at that Grand Balsams Resort, and it sounds as if that place is closing for good in September or so.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 I remember seeing several people who work there, but I must have spaced the part about them closing. That is a shame. I don't imagine there are too many jobs in the area. We had an older relative who was born in Colebrook, but left there for college in the 20s. He was really happy to be out of there, said he never fit in to the rural life. I'm just so glad his last name hasn't popped up in this mess. LOL I don't think there are any relatives left there.
I read an article about the resort sometime late last week....a large company was going to purchase it, and then decided not to.

Oh my gosh ~ that's all you need is to have one of your family surnames pop up !  My maiden name is uncommon, and whenever the name is mentioned around here, people always figure I'm related to others with that name....oddly enough, we aren't.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I sure hope we hear something soon......I am worried this will just fade away.....with no resolution.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 15, 2011, 12:18:33 AM
Just to set the record straight about donations to the family for the funeral and burial,  I was and am all for it.  In fact, I think it's a wonderful thing, especially in this case where it's very obvious that this family seems very poor to me.  I never said otherwise.  If you notice however, it was Adam's side of the family who were asking for donations for the funeral expenses probably because it was an immediate thing that needed to be taken care of and the money just was not there.  I admire that.  It's donations for anything other than the funeral and burial that I object to.

Also, I feel sorry for any person who loses a child for any reason.  It has to be the worst possible thing to happen to any parent.  I'm just having a very hard time feeling sorry for Louisia because I think that she is at least partially responsible for what happened to Celina.  It's just unfathomable to me that the mother of two young girls, 11 and 13 years old, to allow the people into her home that Louisia allowed.   I also find it weird that they would lose their bedroom to the son of an ex-boyfriend who has spent time in prison. 

Something else that sort of bothers me is that okay, Kayla may look like Louisia or Adam.  Also, Adam has stated that the two girls are his children.  But he left the family home when Celina was three months old.   I wonder why?   There is nothing of Adam in Celina.  In fact, if it weren't for the age difference, I would put Celina and Kevin as almost identical.  I would just like to know more above Kevin Mullaney's father, Louisia's ex-boyfriend.  Why would she have him living with her if he was just the son of an ex-boyfriend.  I have lots of unanswered questions.

marycat, I think that is the same woman you found.  It looks exactly like her in my opinion.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 12:24:01 AM
Just to set the record straight about donations to the family for the funeral and burial,  I was and am all for it.  In fact, I think it's a wonderful thing, especially in this case where it's very obvious that this family seems very poor to me.  I never said otherwise.  If you notice however, it was Adam's side of the family who were asking for donations for the funeral expenses probably because it was an immediate thing that needed to be taken care of and the money just was not there.  I admire that.  It's donations for anything other than the funeral and burial that I object to.

Also, I feel sorry for any person who loses a child for any reason.  It has to be the worst possible thing to happen to any parent.  I'm just having a very hard time feeling sorry for Louisia because I think that she is at least partially responsible for what happened to Celina.  It's just unfathomable to me that the mother of two young girls, 11 and 13 years old, to allow the people into her home that Louisia allowed.   I also find it weird that they would lose their bedroom to the son of an ex-boyfriend who has spent time in prison. 

Something else that sort of bothers me is that okay, Kayla may look like Louisia or Adam.  Also, Adam has stated that the two girls are his children.  But he left the family home when Celina was three months old.   I wonder why?   There is nothing of Adam in Celina.  In fact, if it weren't for the age difference, I would put Celina and Kevin as almost identical.  I would just like to know more above Kevin Mullaney's father, Louisia's ex-boyfriend.  Why would she have him living with her if he was just the son of an ex-boyfriend.  I have lots of unanswered questions.

marycat, I think that is the same woman you found.  It looks exactly like her in my opinion.

::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Obviously, I agree with everything you've said.  My opinion.

I do think/hope that possibly the funeral home gave them a break on the costs.  i hope so.

I'm saying again ~ I agree with all of your comments and questions, AND I've been saying the same thing, too !  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 15, 2011, 12:30:10 AM
I just looked at Elliott Hibbard's FB again, and the pic that has Beverly and Elliott and the bride and groom.....yep, I think she is the one on the float.    ::MonkeyCool::

You know what I feel so bad about is that soooo many of these folks we've found on FB work at that Grand Balsams Resort, and it sounds as if that place is closing for good in September or so.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 I remember seeing several people who work there, but I must have spaced the part about them closing. That is a shame. I don't imagine there are too many jobs in the area. We had an older relative who was born in Colebrook, but left there for college in the 20s. He was really happy to be out of there, said he never fit in to the rural life. I'm just so glad his last name hasn't popped up in this mess. LOL I don't think there are any relatives left there.
I read an article about the resort sometime late last week....a large company was going to purchase it, and then decided not to.

Oh my gosh ~ that's all you need is to have one of your family surnames pop up !  My maiden name is uncommon, and whenever the name is mentioned around here, people always figure I'm related to others with that name....oddly enough, we aren't.... ::MonkeyHaHa::

I sure hope we hear something soon......I am worried this will just fade away.....with no resolution.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It seems like LE is playing it close to the vest, so maybe they are just being careful and don't want to do anything until the toxicology reports come back. The other thing is that they can't touch Wendell as long as he is in mental facility can they? He has to come out sometime, so maybe they are just waiting. I hope so. I am with you, Tcumom - worried that it will go cold and people will forget.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 12:36:26 AM
You know, I just realized ~ how is Wendell paying for his hospitalization?  I know for sure that a mental health institution is well over a $1500 a day in Texas.  Surely, his military retirement doesn't cover all that, or does it?  Maybe so; didn't he leave early 'cause of his mental health?  oh, boy.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 15, 2011, 12:39:01 AM
Just to set the record straight about donations to the family for the funeral and burial,  I was and am all for it.  In fact, I think it's a wonderful thing, especially in this case where it's very obvious that this family seems very poor to me.  I never said otherwise.  If you notice however, it was Adam's side of the family who were asking for donations for the funeral expenses probably because it was an immediate thing that needed to be taken care of and the money just was not there.  I admire that.  It's donations for anything other than the funeral and burial that I object to.

Also, I feel sorry for any person who loses a child for any reason.  It has to be the worst possible thing to happen to any parent.  I'm just having a very hard time feeling sorry for Louisia because I think that she is at least partially responsible for what happened to Celina.  It's just unfathomable to me that the mother of two young girls, 11 and 13 years old, to allow the people into her home that Louisia allowed.   I also find it weird that they would lose their bedroom to the son of an ex-boyfriend who has spent time in prison. 

Something else that sort of bothers me is that okay, Kayla may look like Louisia or Adam.  Also, Adam has stated that the two girls are his children.  But he left the family home when Celina was three months old.   I wonder why?   There is nothing of Adam in Celina.  In fact, if it weren't for the age difference, I would put Celina and Kevin as almost identical.  I would just like to know more above Kevin Mullaney's father, Louisia's ex-boyfriend.  Why would she have him living with her if he was just the son of an ex-boyfriend.  I have lots of unanswered questions.

marycat, I think that is the same woman you found.  It looks exactly like her in my opinion.

::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::

Obviously, I agree with everything you've said.  My opinion.

I do think/hope that possibly the funeral home gave them a break on the costs.  i hope so.

I'm saying again ~ I agree with all of your comments and questions, AND I've been saying the same thing, too !  ::MonkeyCool::

Yep! I agree with both of you. But, I don't even mind donation money going to help them get out of that situation if it will improve Kayla's life, but it did disturb me some when I hard Kevin was living with them. I wonder if children services are checking into Kayla's circumstance since all the publicity about the party house, Wendell's FB antics, a felon living with them, etc?

I just don't get the Kevin connection at all. He still has Wendell as a FB friend. Something is just weird with that whole situation.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 15, 2011, 12:40:55 AM
You know, I just realized ~ how is Wendell paying for his hospitalization?  I know for sure that a mental health institution is well over a $1500 a day in Texas.  Surely, his military retirement doesn't cover all that, or does it?  Maybe so; didn't he leave early 'cause of his mental health?  oh, boy.  ::MonkeyEek::

He should be using the VA...they have a mental health facility...should be covered.  That's how it works here in Florida. Here we have the Baker Act...even if he checked himself in voluntarily he could be place under the Baker Act. But, when a patient is received that has military benefits they are forced to go to the VA....UNLESS...they refuse and then Medicare/Medicaid takes over.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 12:44:31 AM
There is definitely something weird with all that Kevin malarkey . . . we don't know who is father is, do we?  I can't even remember anymore .  ha. 

Maybe Louisia and Kevin have closed ranks, and are keeping a low profile 'til they see the results of the toxicology tests.

I would think the authorities would have many questions for both of them; at least, I hope so. ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 12:47:33 AM
You know, I just realized ~ how is Wendell paying for his hospitalization?  I know for sure that a mental health institution is well over a $1500 a day in Texas.  Surely, his military retirement doesn't cover all that, or does it?  Maybe so; didn't he leave early 'cause of his mental health?  oh, boy.  ::MonkeyEek::

He should be using the VA...they have a mental health facility...should be covered.  That's how it works here in Florida. Here we have the Baker Act...even if he checked himself in voluntarily he could be place under the Baker Act. But, when a patient is received that has military benefits they are forced to go to the VA....UNLESS...they refuse and then Medicare/Medicaid takes over.
Is there a limit as to how long a patient can stay, whether it's VA or Medicare/Medicaid?  Here, I know there's a limit....and it doesn't seem too long.  He's been there a while now, hasn't he?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 15, 2011, 12:53:33 AM
You know, I just realized ~ how is Wendell paying for his hospitalization?  I know for sure that a mental health institution is well over a $1500 a day in Texas.  Surely, his military retirement doesn't cover all that, or does it?  Maybe so; didn't he leave early 'cause of his mental health?  oh, boy.  ::MonkeyEek::

He should be using the VA...they have a mental health facility...should be covered.  That's how it works here in Florida. Here we have the Baker Act...even if he checked himself in voluntarily he could be place under the Baker Act. But, when a patient is received that has military benefits they are forced to go to the VA....UNLESS...they refuse and then Medicare/Medicaid takes over.
Is there a limit as to how long a patient can stay, whether it's VA or Medicare/Medicaid?  Here, I know there's a limit....and it doesn't seem too long.  He's been there a while now, hasn't he?


The latest average patient stay is three days...but, if he expresses any behavior that puts him at risk to harm himself or anyone else, then he can keep getting two week extension orders. He can also be ordered to State Hospital while he is a patient there and never leave that facility.  Now, this is in Florida...I am not sure of the laws in NH.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 01:09:57 AM
You know, I just realized ~ how is Wendell paying for his hospitalization?  I know for sure that a mental health institution is well over a $1500 a day in Texas.  Surely, his military retirement doesn't cover all that, or does it?  Maybe so; didn't he leave early 'cause of his mental health?  oh, boy.  ::MonkeyEek::

He should be using the VA...they have a mental health facility...should be covered.  That's how it works here in Florida. Here we have the Baker Act...even if he checked himself in voluntarily he could be place under the Baker Act. But, when a patient is received that has military benefits they are forced to go to the VA....UNLESS...they refuse and then Medicare/Medicaid takes over.

Is there a limit as to how long a patient can stay, whether it's VA or Medicare/Medicaid?  Here, I know there's a limit....and it doesn't seem too long.  He's been there a while now, hasn't he?


The latest average patient stay is three days...but, if he expresses any behavior that puts him at risk to harm himself or anyone else, then he can keep getting two week extension orders. He can also be ordered to State Hospital while he is a patient there and never leave that facility.  Now, this is in Florida...I am not sure of the laws in NH.
Texas is similar ~ see, I can actually picture ole' Wendell using this to his advantage.  That's just my opinion, though.  The whole dropping to the ground business was so staged, I thought.....or, if it was real, it's 'cause he knew his goose was gonna be cooked, one way or another.

I picture him just cruising from one facility to another, never having to answer a question.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 15, 2011, 01:21:45 AM
You know, I just realized ~ how is Wendell paying for his hospitalization?  I know for sure that a mental health institution is well over a $1500 a day in Texas.  Surely, his military retirement doesn't cover all that, or does it?  Maybe so; didn't he leave early 'cause of his mental health?  oh, boy.  ::MonkeyEek::

He should be using the VA...they have a mental health facility...should be covered.  That's how it works here in Florida. Here we have the Baker Act...even if he checked himself in voluntarily he could be place under the Baker Act. But, when a patient is received that has military benefits they are forced to go to the VA....UNLESS...they refuse and then Medicare/Medicaid takes over.

Is there a limit as to how long a patient can stay, whether it's VA or Medicare/Medicaid?  Here, I know there's a limit....and it doesn't seem too long.  He's been there a while now, hasn't he?


The latest average patient stay is three days...but, if he expresses any behavior that puts him at risk to harm himself or anyone else, then he can keep getting two week extension orders. He can also be ordered to State Hospital while he is a patient there and never leave that facility.  Now, this is in Florida...I am not sure of the laws in NH.
Texas is similar ~ see, I can actually picture ole' Wendell using this to his advantage.  That's just my opinion, though.  The whole dropping to the ground business was so staged, I thought.....or, if it was real, it's 'cause he knew his goose was gonna be cooked, one way or another.

I picture him just cruising from one facility to another, never having to answer a question.   ::MonkeyMad::

I have seen criminals come in and try and hide behind the locked doors of the mental health facility...but, have faith that the doctors will see through it if it is an act. There are certain ways to determine whether his problem is behavioral or schizophrenia. You can only act so much...and if the public didn't fall for his falling on the ground act...then the doctors will not be falling for it either.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 15, 2011, 01:29:58 AM
You know, I just realized ~ how is Wendell paying for his hospitalization?  I know for sure that a mental health institution is well over a $1500 a day in Texas.  Surely, his military retirement doesn't cover all that, or does it?  Maybe so; didn't he leave early 'cause of his mental health?  oh, boy.  ::MonkeyEek::

He should be using the VA...they have a mental health facility...should be covered.  That's how it works here in Florida. Here we have the Baker Act...even if he checked himself in voluntarily he could be place under the Baker Act. But, when a patient is received that has military benefits they are forced to go to the VA....UNLESS...they refuse and then Medicare/Medicaid takes over.

Is there a limit as to how long a patient can stay, whether it's VA or Medicare/Medicaid?  Here, I know there's a limit....and it doesn't seem too long.  He's been there a while now, hasn't he?


The latest average patient stay is three days...but, if he expresses any behavior that puts him at risk to harm himself or anyone else, then he can keep getting two week extension orders. He can also be ordered to State Hospital while he is a patient there and never leave that facility.  Now, this is in Florida...I am not sure of the laws in NH.
Texas is similar ~ see, I can actually picture ole' Wendell using this to his advantage.  That's just my opinion, though.  The whole dropping to the ground business was so staged, I thought.....or, if it was real, it's 'cause he knew his goose was gonna be cooked, one way or another.

I picture him just cruising from one facility to another, never having to answer a question.   ::MonkeyMad::

If he is in a VA facility he is probably in Manchester. Vets may have to pay co-pays if the mental health issue is not attributed to their service, but can get it waived if they qualify for low income.

How long was he in the service? For some reason I thought he was a career guy, maybe 20 years. What branch was he in? I thought his mental issues occurred after he left the service and that he had an honorable discharge, but there has been so many conflicting news reports I don't know what is accurate.

I have the feeling Wendell can work the system, so he could very well stay there indefinitely.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 15, 2011, 01:57:17 AM
Tcumom,

You were right. Wendell received a medical discharge from the Air Force for schizophrenia. He served in Operation Desert Shield.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bjWzdVnS-McJ:www2.oanow.com/news/2011/aug/01/3/female-body-found-dam-near-missing-girls-home-ar-2216158/+wendell+vincent+noyes&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com

I was wrong in thinking he must be in the Manchester VA. Another news article said he was taken to a hospital in Concord. It was a Boston paper and it didn't specify Concord NH or MA or where. I didn't see a VA hospital in Concord, NH when I looked.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 15, 2011, 02:47:55 AM
Check this out! Could this possibly be our Wendell? They call him Mr Wendell Noyes instead of a rank. I noticed in several articles in this case they mentioned he was retired and had been "Air Force Staff", without giving a rank. This guy was an adviser on a retiree council in 2004 ad 2005. Here is a link to the 2004 minutes. Look under advisors for his name. Could there be 2 Wendell Noyes affiliated with the Air Force?

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:KU03Nqh2FJAJ:www-rucker.army.mil/imcom/rso/docs/minutes/2004/5_August_2004.pdf+%22wendell+noyes%22+air+force+-celina&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShyHYFhAVkUfnxSX7bet2Tr34QhWVsZJfa9J6VbI0mK4sYT2TlE5xurF9ObDwVDufdcrgjhgPTTjbeppnUYSAAVg6nAxsrDY_eD2a4O1sbnyZdpvrQhgb90mI5oIgct0jaE1olk&sig=AHIEtbQkUpQ1TRIXD6Mwccmzk4ZGvuSOww


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 06:44:26 AM
Check this out! Could this possibly be our Wendell? They call him Mr Wendell Noyes instead of a rank. I noticed in several articles in this case they mentioned he was retired and had been "Air Force Staff", without giving a rank. This guy was an adviser on a retiree council in 2004 ad 2005. Here is a link to the 2004 minutes. Look under advisors for his name. Could there be 2 Wendell Noyes affiliated with the Air Force?

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:KU03Nqh2FJAJ:www-rucker.army.mil/imcom/rso/docs/minutes/2004/5_August_2004.pdf+%22wendell+noyes%22+air+force+-celina&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShyHYFhAVkUfnxSX7bet2Tr34QhWVsZJfa9J6VbI0mK4sYT2TlE5xurF9ObDwVDufdcrgjhgPTTjbeppnUYSAAVg6nAxsrDY_eD2a4O1sbnyZdpvrQhgb90mI5oIgct0jaE1olk&sig=AHIEtbQkUpQ1TRIXD6Mwccmzk4ZGvuSOww

That is fantastic that you found this ~ for some reason I'm having trouble finding his name in that document, and for pete's sake, it's only 4 pages.  haha.

When the forum went down last night for its daily backup or whatever, I hit the sack, as I have to leave for school by 6 this morning.  I didn't realize it was time for the backup, or I would have told y'all goodnight and not just bailed !


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 07:01:30 AM
I'm putting this Wendell on here just so we'll know this is the *other* Wendell. 
  Not wanting to confuse anyone. 

Klaas or any mod ~ if you need to delete this due to possibly confusing others, no problem.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Wendell Noyes
 
Name:    Wendell Noyes    
Branch of Service:    Marine Corps
Years of Service:    1954 to 1964
Rank:    E-5
Current Bio:    Air Force 1964 to 1976. Federal service Fort Rucker, AL Deputy Installation Management, GS-14.

http://www.vetfriends.com/veterandirectory/?member=350210&name=Wendell-Noyes&branch=Marines&from=1954&to=1964


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 08:01:14 AM
I'm blaming waaaayy too much coffee on my turbo-posting this morning.

I found some other info for Wendell Noyes in the Air Force but it all appears to be the Wendell that is posted above.   ::MonkeyEek::

I'll see if I can find anything else when we have our big 25-minute lunch at school today.  whoopee.  lol.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 15, 2011, 09:30:11 AM

Now I am really confused. I thought the lady with the brown hair sitting on the sidelines during the parade was W's mother, Tommie Richards.

I know someone on here said the woman with the long gray hair on the parade float was Louisa's mother. Then, I read that Celina was to be buried in the cemetery next to Louisa's mother...  So if the gray haired lady isn't Louisa's mother or mother-in-law who is she?

You're not alone!  That is exactly what I understood, also.   In fact, there was a tag under Tommie Richards photo saying that's who it is . 

I thought it was definitely said that the woman on the float with the purple flowers in her hair was Louisia's mother. 

::MonkeyEek::

Good morning Monkey's,

What cemetery is angel Celina, buried at? Thank-you  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 15, 2011, 09:35:00 AM
http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug12.pdf

Angel Celina is buried (I understand) at Northumberland Cemetery, (I believe) CN dad is also buried there, if I remember correctly from his Obit. ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 15, 2011, 09:50:51 AM
REED, JOSEPH 28 May 1900 Sep 1978 78 03598 (Whitefield, Coos, NH) 03584 (Lancaster, Coos, NH) New Hampshire

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

Could Mr. Reed be connected to George C's, family tree?  George grew up and died in Lancaster, Coos, NH,
could his wife been a Reed?  Just throwing that idea out there  ::MonkeyEek::

Just could not fit Wayne (Uncle Dean) in the family puzzle.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 15, 2011, 09:53:38 AM
Tcumom,

You were right. Wendell received a medical discharge from the Air Force for schizophrenia. He served in Operation Desert Shield.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bjWzdVnS-McJ:www2.oanow.com/news/2011/aug/01/3/female-body-found-dam-near-missing-girls-home-ar-2216158/+wendell+vincent+noyes&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com

I was wrong in thinking he must be in the Manchester VA. Another news article said he was taken to a hospital in Concord. It was a Boston paper and it didn't specify Concord NH or MA or where. I didn't see a VA hospital in Concord, NH when I looked.


Did he serve his full tour in Operation Desert Shield was his tour cut "short"?  That is my only question.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 15, 2011, 11:33:19 AM
I'm blaming waaaayy too much coffee on my turbo-posting this morning.

I found some other info for Wendell Noyes in the Air Force but it all appears to be the Wendell that is posted above.   ::MonkeyEek::

I'll see if I can find anything else when we have our big 25-minute lunch at school today.  whoopee.  lol.

TCUMOM,

Thanks for clearing that up. The guy you found must the one on the retirees council. He would only be in his 70s now. I just knew it couldn't be our Wendell, the dates were after his "problem" with his girlfriend and hospital stint,  and I just couldn't see him with enough smarts after seeing him being "interviewed" on TV - lol. What an odd name - I wonder if they are related? Poor man.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 12:50:36 PM
REED, JOSEPH 28 May 1900 Sep 1978 78 03598 (Whitefield, Coos, NH) 03584 (Lancaster, Coos, NH) New Hampshire

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

Could Mr. Reed be connected to George C's, family tree?  George grew up and died in Lancaster, Coos, NH,
could his wife been a Reed?  Just throwing that idea out there  ::MonkeyEek::

Just could not fit Wayne (Uncle Dean) in the family puzzle.

Hi ~ remember in George C's obituary, didn't it have a third son listed with the Reed last name?  Probably confusing everything even more .    ::MonkeyConfused:: :smt017


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 15, 2011, 12:54:45 PM
I'm blaming waaaayy too much coffee on my turbo-posting this morning.

I found some other info for Wendell Noyes in the Air Force but it all appears to be the Wendell that is posted above.   ::MonkeyEek::

I'll see if I can find anything else when we have our big 25-minute lunch at school today.  whoopee.  lol.

TCUMOM,

Thanks for clearing that up. The guy you found must the one on the retirees council. He would only be in his 70s now. I just knew it couldn't be our Wendell, the dates were after his "problem" with his girlfriend and hospital stint,  and I just couldn't see him with enough smarts after seeing him being "interviewed" on TV - lol. What an odd name - I wonder if they are related? Poor man.

Don't you know this guy probably wants to wear a sandwich board proclaiming "I am not that Wendell Noyes"   . . .  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 15, 2011, 06:14:27 PM
I'm blaming waaaayy too much coffee on my turbo-posting this morning.

I found some other info for Wendell Noyes in the Air Force but it all appears to be the Wendell that is posted above.   ::MonkeyEek::

I'll see if I can find anything else when we have our big 25-minute lunch at school today.  whoopee.  lol.

TCUMOM,

Thanks for clearing that up. The guy you found must the one on the retirees council. He would only be in his 70s now. I just knew it couldn't be our Wendell, the dates were after his "problem" with his girlfriend and hospital stint,  and I just couldn't see him with enough smarts after seeing him being "interviewed" on TV - lol. What an odd name - I wonder if they are related? Poor man.

Don't you know this guy probably wants to wear a sandwich board proclaiming "I am not that Wendell Noyes"   . . .  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyHaHa:: I know I would!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 17, 2011, 10:28:27 AM
Celina Cass Murder Mystery:  Investigators Losing Hope

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/199005/20110817/celina-cass-murder-mystery-new-hampshire-investigators-toxicology-report-evidence-jane-young-wendell.htm

What a negative article.  I posted under this article under the name of Rosie -

What a negative article by this writer. The toxicology report has not even come back yet. Just because law enforcement has not arrested anyone yet, has it ever occurred to you that maybe they are waiting for the final piece of the puzzle?

Let's not give up  hope yet!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: pharlap on August 17, 2011, 11:49:09 AM
Celina Cass Murder Mystery:  Investigators Losing Hope

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/199005/20110817/celina-cass-murder-mystery-new-hampshire-investigators-toxicology-report-evidence-jane-young-wendell.htm

What a negative article.  I posted under this article under the name of Rosie -

What a negative article by this writer. The toxicology report has not even come back yet. Just because law enforcement has not arrested anyone yet, has it ever occurred to you that maybe they are waiting for the final piece of the puzzle?

Let's not give up  hope yet!

I agree not to give up hope.

JMO, I believe every case from here on out doesn't want to end up forgetting about the victim, like Caylee's did.

 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: wildmala on August 17, 2011, 01:31:47 PM
Celina Cass Murder Mystery:  Investigators Losing Hope

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/199005/20110817/celina-cass-murder-mystery-new-hampshire-investigators-toxicology-report-evidence-jane-young-wendell.htm

What a negative article.  I posted under this article under the name of Rosie -

What a negative article by this writer. The toxicology report has not even come back yet. Just because law enforcement has not arrested anyone yet, has it ever occurred to you that maybe they are waiting for the final piece of the puzzle?

Let's not give up  hope yet!

I agree not to give up hope.

JMO, I believe every case from here on out doesn't want to end up forgetting about the victim, like Caylee's did.

 ::HelloKitty::

I agree.  Well, at least the article mentioned a timeframe for the toxicology reports - next couple of weeks. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 17, 2011, 07:01:46 PM
Celina's body was found on August 1st.  This article says toxicology report usually take 2 to 4 weeks but I remember at the press conference it was said  that they hoped to get it back earlier.  So today being the 17th, we are in the middle of the third week so it shouldn't be too much longer for the results.  Feels longer, doesn't it?

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/alcohol-abuse/features/the-truth-about-toxicology-tests


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2011, 09:04:19 PM
NH town endures 'creepy' wait after girl's death

The Associated Press

CONCORD, N.H. — More than two weeks after searchers pulled the body of 11-year-old Celina Cass from the Connecticut River near her house, the lack of an arrest and answers to questions about how she died have cast a pall over her New Hampshire hometown.

Sad and edgy, residents of Stewartstown are waiting — for answers about the girl, justice for her family, peace of mind for themselves. The police's inability to charge a suspect, an autopsy that couldn't pinpoint what killed her and the lingering fear that a killer is at large are hanging over folks in the one-stoplight burg with 960 residents near the Canadian border.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.kjonline.com/news/NH-town-endures-creepy-wait-after-girls-death-.html


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 18, 2011, 09:30:01 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/08/18/reward_planned_in_11_year_old_nh_girls_death/

Reward planned in 11-year-old NH girl's death
 ::snipping2::
The Attorney General's Office has scheduled a press conference for 10 a.m. Thursday to issue a plea for information on the death of Celina Cass of Stewartstown.
 ::snipping2::
It's unclear whether the money will replace or supplement a $25,000 reward offered by the FBI before the girl's body was found.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 18, 2011, 10:50:02 AM
Dear God, please bring justice to Celina's killer. This innocent little girl didn't even get a chance to experience life. Please show her happiness and undying love in heaven. She's in good hands up there...I just know it.

::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 19, 2011, 07:41:40 AM
We finally have an explanation as to how he is related ~ hopefully, we'll hear something soon . 
Every morning before school, I check the news.  Nothing .  Maybe I'm just missing something .

Have any monkeys heard anything?


http://www.facebook.com/notes/dan-cass/where-r-your-balls-this-pm-scumbag/261625820531946


where r your balls this pm scumbag???!!
by Dan Cass on Thursday, 18 August 2011 at 20:04

so scumbags who killed celina more time has gone by and u think u have freedom.my question is how do u cope with being a scumbag?how do u cope with knowing u took a young 11 year old celina cass from her family and friends?does it make u feel like a man knowing u killed a little girl celina cass who never harmed u or anyone else?cause u know what i think about u by now and u know where u belong.i just want u to know that i am still looking and listening and i dont want u to sleep well knowing u are on my mind as well as many others that want u to pay for your crime.u are a animal that should be taken off our streets!!!u stole the innocence of celina cass and her family and friends and the coos county and more.i see people with chrome balls hanging from there cars and trucks i hope to someday see your balls hanging from my truck as well as i drag u from town to town as slow as i can from pittsburg to lancaster and back.scumbag ride of his life i will call it!!!
Share

    Dilshad Sharif likes this.
        Dilshad Sharif who is celina dan ? can she was your family member?//?????
        10 hours ago
        Sharon Ricker some have asked how is lousia related to your family of Cass's
        10 hours ago
        Dan Cass celina cass is my uncle deans grand daughter uncle dean was my father's older brother
        10 hours ago


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2011, 02:36:24 PM
We finally have an explanation as to how he is related ~ hopefully, we'll hear something soon . 
Every morning before school, I check the news.  Nothing .  Maybe I'm just missing something .

Have any monkeys heard anything?


http://www.facebook.com/notes/dan-cass/where-r-your-balls-this-pm-scumbag/261625820531946


where r your balls this pm scumbag???!!
by Dan Cass on Thursday, 18 August 2011 at 20:04

so scumbags who killed celina more time has gone by and u think u have freedom.my question is how do u cope with being a scumbag?how do u cope with knowing u took a young 11 year old celina cass from her family and friends?does it make u feel like a man knowing u killed a little girl celina cass who never harmed u or anyone else?cause u know what i think about u by now and u know where u belong.i just want u to know that i am still looking and listening and i dont want u to sleep well knowing u are on my mind as well as many others that want u to pay for your crime.u are a animal that should be taken off our streets!!!u stole the innocence of celina cass and her family and friends and the coos county and more.i see people with chrome balls hanging from there cars and trucks i hope to someday see your balls hanging from my truck as well as i drag u from town to town as slow as i can from pittsburg to lancaster and back.scumbag ride of his life i will call it!!!
Share

    Dilshad Sharif likes this.
        Dilshad Sharif who is celina dan ? can she was your family member?//?????
        10 hours ago
        Sharon Ricker some have asked how is lousia related to your family of Cass's
        10 hours ago
        Dan Cass celina cass is my uncle deans grand daughter uncle dean was my father's older brother
        10 hours ago


"Uncle Dean" should be the late George D Cass.  George would be 70 years old if he lived.  The OBIT did not mention any
brothers, only a sister.  I guess they were frugal and limited a few people:)  IMO


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on August 19, 2011, 07:32:24 PM
Quote
seahorse
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1463059#msg1463059

"Uncle Dean" should be the late George D Cass.  George would be 70 years old if he lived.  The OBIT did not mention any
brothers, only a sister.  I guess they were frugal and limited a few people:)  IMO

seahorse, sometimes it s the person who takes care of the arrangements too, what they
add or dont add to the obit
 



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 19, 2011, 08:13:02 PM
When Dan Cass originally began posting his FB remarks (link above from this a.m.), what stood out to me was that he was obviously so very upset (understandably!) about his cousin, Celina......and then he went on to say he'd never met her .

Heck, I have first cousins that I could run into on the street, and have no recollection whatsoever .   ::MonkeyEek::

So, I'm not saying it was weird or odd that they hadn't met......just interesting how close they live, and evidently not a lot of contact.

Oh, well, I'm over-explaining and rambling......just trying to say I was glad we now definitely know how Dan is related to Celina ~

whew.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 19, 2011, 08:58:24 PM
Maybe I am understanding this ...but if Celina's grandfatherand this man's father are brother's..wouldn't that make Celina's mother..Louisa his first cousin?

If so..why not outrage for his cousin Louisa and what she is going through?   Not even a mention of her..This whole thing doesn't make any sense.  People who aren't even related seem to have more care for the immediate family (Celina's parents and sister)..and the rest seem to be looking for their 15 minutes of fame.  This man doesn't mention her sister, her Mom..nada..something isn't right there imo..I think he even knows them or what he is talking about..nor do I think he has any info that means anything..other then some face time on fb for him.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2011, 09:12:30 PM
Quote
seahorse
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1463059#msg1463059

"Uncle Dean" should be the late George D Cass.  George would be 70 years old if he lived.  The OBIT did not mention any
brothers, only a sister.  I guess they were frugal and limited a few people:)  IMO

seahorse, sometimes it s the person who takes care of the arrangements too, what they
add or dont add to the obit
 




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Quote
seahorse
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11926.msg1463059#msg1463059

"Uncle Dean" should be the late George D Cass.  George would be 70 years old if he lived.  The OBIT did not mention any
brothers, only a sister.  I guess they were frugal and limited a few people:)  IMO

seahorse, sometimes it s the person who takes care of the arrangements too, what they
add or dont add to the obit
 





Good evening Monkey's,

Thanks for enlightening me, cw618. This explains why George D Cass' Obit is not thorough.  He may have had a brother, who
perceded in him, the obit covered only who is living (or surviving him).

Louisia would be the first cousin to Danm, good thinking to the monkey who thought that out. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: kippy on August 20, 2011, 12:59:11 AM
Maybe I am understanding this ...but if Celina's grandfatherand this man's father are brother's..wouldn't that make Celina's mother..Louisa his first cousin?

If so..why not outrage for his cousin Louisa and what she is going through?   Not even a mention of her..This whole thing doesn't make any sense.  People who aren't even related seem to have more care for the immediate family (Celina's parents and sister)..and the rest seem to be looking for their 15 minutes of fame.  This man doesn't mention her sister, her Mom..nada..something isn't right there imo..I think he even knows them or what he is talking about..nor do I think he has any info that means anything..other then some face time on fb for him.

Dan doesn't have much information, just what family is saying and I certainly don't think he is looking for "face time" on facebook.  This is his personal page and probably has no idea people are creeping on him reading his writings and posting them on blog sites.  He is writing what's in his heart..Celina was family whether he met her before or not, and he makes it pretty clear what he thinks happened to her and who is responsible.  His rage is over what happened to Celina, not her parents or sister, just Celina.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 20, 2011, 07:59:53 AM
Dan doesn't have much information, just what family is saying and I certainly don't think he is looking for "face time" on facebook.  This is his personal page and probably has no idea people are creeping on him reading his writings and posting them on blog sites.  He is writing what's in his heart..Celina was family whether he met her before or not, and he makes it pretty clear what he thinks happened to her and who is responsible.  His rage is over what happened to Celina, not her parents or sister, just Celina.

 ::rhino::

I periodically look at his FB wall in hopes that he will have perhaps heard something about an arrest or questioning, before the rest of us.

Yes, he is very upset, and understandably so.  I feel bad for him, and am glad he's able to just say what's on his mind.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 20, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
Good morning Monkey's,

O.T.


Has anyone ever tried?

 http://catalog.loc.gov/

This is The Library of Congress searchie thing :)

There are free newspapers through the LOC, sometimes on weekends they can not be accessed, just haven't found the
free archives newsy link.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 20, 2011, 09:24:13 AM
http://www.deadfred.com/index.php

I lost my touch with search engine's. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 20, 2011, 10:52:48 AM
Thanks, seahorse!  I'll have to try out the search engine and the Library of Congress.....
Trying to get back in the groove of teaching  ::MonkeyEek::, AND still obsessing over justice for Celina.

I keep saying.....I'm worried this will just fade away.  :smt022


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 20, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
Good afternoon Monkey's,


Tcumom,

The way I found my long lost cousin was through "A Guest Book" legacy.com.  I first went to google archive newspaper search,
it is not free now but last year, it was)  I typed in her name, (believe it or not she was a bridesmaid in 1955), I typed in the
Bridesmaid name in legacy (died) and followed through to the guestbook (not in service) amazing I retrieved names, (by a miracle)  ::MonkeyAngel::  I typed in her name and she came up on a website!  Whew... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 20, 2011, 02:22:03 PM
Seahorse ~ That is soooo cool about locating your cousin!  I enjoy the process of *investigating* and researching in genealogy . . .
I can imagine your excitement.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 20, 2011, 06:52:09 PM
Maybe I am understanding this ...but if Celina's grandfatherand this man's father are brother's..wouldn't that make Celina's mother..Louisa his first cousin?

If so..why not outrage for his cousin Louisa and what she is going through?   Not even a mention of her..This whole thing doesn't make any sense.  People who aren't even related seem to have more care for the immediate family (Celina's parents and sister)..and the rest seem to be looking for their 15 minutes of fame.  This man doesn't mention her sister, her Mom..nada..something isn't right there imo..I think he even knows them or what he is talking about..nor do I think he has any info that means anything..other then some face time on fb for him.

Dan doesn't have much information, just what family is saying and I certainly don't think he is looking for "face time" on facebook.  This is his personal page and probably has no idea people are creeping on him reading his writings and posting them on blog sites.  He is writing what's in his heart..Celina was family whether he met her before or not, and he makes it pretty clear what he thinks happened to her and who is responsible.  His rage is over what happened to Celina, not her parents or sister, just Celina.

I get that he is upset over Celina..we are too and we aren't related.

What I don't get is his not even mentioning her Mom or her sister and his outrage for them..or asking people to reach out and help them.  Surely after something like this..if you were a first cousin..and lived in the general area..you would reach out to the immediate family.  Maybe he has and we just don't know.  I just find it odd all the talk about Celina and nothing about her mom and sister or helping them.  Obviously his cousin, Louisa could use some help right now..moving, etc.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: seahorse on August 20, 2011, 07:59:00 PM
Seahorse ~ That is soooo cool about locating your cousin!  I enjoy the process of *investigating* and researching in genealogy . . .
I can imagine your excitement.   ::MonkeyDance::


 ::MonkeySlide:: Yes, Tcumom, it was so much fun with all the steps.  ::MonkeySlide::

I feel a good vibration that Celina's killer will be brought to justice. I feel the Law is crossing their T's and doting their I's,
sort of like school :)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 24, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
OMG, the toxicology test results are taking so long.  It's now well into the fourth week.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 24, 2011, 05:55:17 PM
OMG, the toxicology test results are taking so long.  It's now well into the fourth week.

 ::rhino:: I am very concerned .


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 24, 2011, 06:35:01 PM
Okay ~ here's a tidbit of news . . . not sure what it means, but it's something.  finally.   ::MonkeyCool::


http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001870634884&sk=wall


Julie Woods
I just saw the cops take that kevin guy away,,,,,wow is all I can say...we have. Been here off and on all morn...
6 hours ago via Mobile

    Joanne Mathieu likes this.
        Maegan Haynes Take him from louisas???
        6 hours ago
        Melissa Desaindes Oh really....it would be nice to get answers!!!
        5 hours ago
        Melissa Desaindes Was it local cops, FBI, who took him away? Could it have been violation of something other than the case?
        5 hours ago
        Julie Woods It was two guys in whitr shirts ties and very lrg guns in sholder holsters...unmarked cop car and yes from her house
        5 hours ago
        Maegan Haynes Handcuffs???
        5 hours ago
        Julie Woods The same car he rode in is at colb pd now....I couldn't tell meg..he was on other side of car.....
        5 hours ago
        Shori McKinnon Hopefully this means that there are answers on the horizon!!!!!
        5 hours ago · 4 people
        Stephanie Grondin thanks for the update julie!
        2 hours ago
        Becca Champagne-Knapp He wasn't handcuffed, they brought him in for questioning via the chronicle
        about an hour ago

        Julie Woods And two hrs later....they brought him back


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 24, 2011, 07:20:38 PM
Okay ~ here's a tidbit of news . . . not sure what it means, but it's something.  finally.   ::MonkeyCool::


http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001870634884&sk=wall


Julie Woods
I just saw the cops take that kevin guy away,,,,,wow is all I can say...we have. Been here off and on all morn...
6 hours ago via Mobile

    Joanne Mathieu likes this.
        Maegan Haynes Take him from louisas???
        6 hours ago
        Melissa Desaindes Oh really....it would be nice to get answers!!!
        5 hours ago
        Melissa Desaindes Was it local cops, FBI, who took him away? Could it have been violation of something other than the case?
        5 hours ago
        Julie Woods It was two guys in whitr shirts ties and very lrg guns in sholder holsters...unmarked cop car and yes from her house
        5 hours ago
        Maegan Haynes Handcuffs???
        5 hours ago
        Julie Woods The same car he rode in is at colb pd now....I couldn't tell meg..he was on other side of car.....
        5 hours ago
        Shori McKinnon Hopefully this means that there are answers on the horizon!!!!!
        5 hours ago · 4 people
        Stephanie Grondin thanks for the update julie!
        2 hours ago
        Becca Champagne-Knapp He wasn't handcuffed, they brought him in for questioning via the chronicle
        about an hour ago

        Julie Woods And two hrs later....they brought him back


Thanks tcu mom.  At least it's good to know that the police are still working on it.  Now if the painfully slow news media up there could only get moving releasing any kind of movement in this case that would sure be helpful.  I wish they knew that this is news, no matter how trivial they may think it is, it is news.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 24, 2011, 07:38:50 PM
Patti ~ isn't that the truth .  Celina just needs to be kept in the news.

For any interested monkeys, try this website (FB) for news from the Colebrook Chronicle . . . it is excellent !

I was going to copy and paste, but there are so many comments and remarks, that I'm just linking it.  It really is worth the *click*!

 ::MonkeyCool::

Edit to add tcumom's link.  MB:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Colebrook-Chronicle/169865517777?sk=wall


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 24, 2011, 07:39:29 PM
Oh .   It would be nice if I included the link .   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Colebrook-Chronicle/169865517777?sk=wall


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 24, 2011, 08:04:22 PM
Oh .   It would be nice if I included the link .   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Colebrook-Chronicle/169865517777?sk=wall

Thank you tcumom! I sure wish Celina's murderer will be caught & convicted. That entire county must feel violated, to have their children scared of their security puts them
Out of their element...steals their innocence.

::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on August 24, 2011, 08:10:02 PM
The reward is up to $32,000!

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20110824tips_money_continue_to_flow_in__celina_cass_death/srvc=home&position=recent

Tips, money continue to flow in Celina Cass’ death

By Associated Press
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - Added 6 hours ago
 
CONCORD, N.H. — Tips to investigators and donations to a reward fund continue to flow as New Hampshire officials try to unravel how an 11-year-old Stewartstown girl died.

Lead prosecutor Jane Young says investigators in recent days received a dozen new tips and an additional $2,300 in reward money in the case of Celina Cass of Stewartstown.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 25, 2011, 04:27:22 PM
At one point, I believe either from a newspaper article, broadcast or press conference, the name of the person who Celina last spoke with on Facebook was released.  Does anyone remember the name?  TIA


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 25, 2011, 04:32:32 PM
At one point, I believe either from a newspaper article, broadcast or press conference, the name of the person who Celina last spoke with on Facebook was released.  Does anyone remember the name?  TIA

I recall last name Michael Green...yes, that's it.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 26, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
A Month Later, Kids Gather To Remember Celina Cass - Boston Herald

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0825a_month_later_kids_gather_to_remember_celina_cass/srvc=home&position=recent

"A month to the day when Celina Cass vanished from her rural New Hampshire home, friends of the 11-year-old gathered tonight to launch balloons and place fresh flowers at the dam where divers found her body after an exhaustive search through the North Country."

more.....


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on August 26, 2011, 02:20:07 AM
At one point, I believe either from a newspaper article, broadcast or press conference, the name of the person who Celina last spoke with on Facebook was released.  Does anyone remember the name?  TIA

Michael Green...yes, that's it.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 26, 2011, 11:52:53 AM
Thanks.  I just wanted to spend some time looking at various people and relatives friends lists but I found nothing.  I wonder what they were talking about?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2011, 08:01:21 PM
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0825a_month_later_kids_gather_to_remember_celina_cass/srvc=home&position=recent
A month later, kids gather to remember Celina Cass
August 25, 2011

A month to the day when Celina Cass vanished from her rural New Hampshire home, friends of the 11-year-old gathered tonight to launch balloons and place fresh flowers at the dam where divers found her body after an exhaustive search through the North Country.

Their quiet tribute served as a means of grieving — particularly for a handful of young friends who felt a public memorial weeks ago was too soon — and allowed them to keep Celina’s memory in the public’s mind at a time when word of developments in the criminal investigation has waned.
 ::snipping2::
Investigators are awaiting results of toxicology tests and are responding to a score of new tips that followed the announcement of a reward of more than $30,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone who may have been responsible for Celina’s death. Investigators have called her death suspicious, but the medical examiner has not ruled it a homicide.
 ::snipping2::
About a dozen of Celina’s schoolmates and nearly as many adults joined in today’s remembrance, timed to come just as the children are preparing to return to school without her.

“It was time that the kids were able to do that,” Baglio said. “That’s their friend, and they don’t want to forget what happened to her.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2011, 08:03:50 PM
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/930742-196/ceremony-marks-anniversary-of-celina-casss-death.html
Ceremony marks anniversary of Celina Cass’s death
August 27, 2011

STEWARTSTOWN – A ceremony was held in Stewartstown on Thursday night to mark a month since Celina Cass was last seen alive, even as law enforcement officials continue their investigation.

“We thought, it’s been a month since we’ve last seen Celina, and we just want to let Celina know that we will never forget her, we remember her, and we are giving her a voice that we also want some answers,” said Stewartstown resident Deb Whelan, who organized the gathering.

State Assistant Attorney General Jane Young said State Police are following up on about a dozen tips regarding the disappearance and suspicious death of Celina, the 11-year-old girl who disappeared from her family’s apartment in West Stewartstown.

Young said there is no other information at this time. The new tips were the result of last week’s announcement that a reward had been established leading to the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in the death.
 ::snipping2::
Since the reward was announced on Aug. 18, an additional $2,300 has been donated to the public fund, bringing the total reward up to $32,300.

Anyone interested in donating to the public fund can call Susan Small at the bank at 466-5467. Any tips or information that might help with the investigation can be reported to the State Police at 846-3333.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2011, 09:07:34 PM
At one point, I believe either from a newspaper article, broadcast or press conference, the name of the person who Celina last spoke with on Facebook was released.  Does anyone remember the name?  TIA

I recall last name Michael Green...yes, that's it.

There is a Michael Green who is a sex offender...

Aggravated Felonious Sexual Assault (Victim under 13 y.o.)

http://search.criminalcheck.com/pddetails.php?db=nhsx&rec=273641&ed=282&dlnumber=CC&dlstate=CC&id=CC


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 29, 2011, 06:57:14 AM
Thanks for the info, jerseygirl. 

Surely Michael Green was checked out by the authorities.  Of course, who knows.

I am feeling very down, depressed, and sad over Celina's death (naturally), AND the lack of any news.  I know, I know they're working on it . . . still concerned she will be forgotten when all is said and done.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 29, 2011, 03:47:52 PM
Thanks for the info, jerseygirl. 

Surely Michael Green was checked out by the authorities.  Of course, who knows.

I am feeling very down, depressed, and sad over Celina's death (naturally), AND the lack of any news.  I know, I know they're working on it . . . still concerned she will be forgotten when all is said and done.

Wonder how the town faired during Hurricane Irene?  Guess I could start poking around.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 29, 2011, 03:56:35 PM
Looks like they are in possible flood zone from Irene is all I have found.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2011, 08:34:21 PM
 ::snipping2::
On Wednesday, two state
police detectives were at Louisia
Noyes’ new home across
the river in Vermont to ask
more questions as part of their
continuing investigation into
the little girl’s disappearance
and suspi c i o us deat h .
Neighbors witnessed family
friend Kevin Mullaney, who
has lived with the family for
over a year, leaving the home
with the two detectives around
1 p.m. on Wednesday afternoon.
The Chronicle talked
with Detective Michael Cote,
who said it was a matter of
routine questioning. He verified
that there have been no arrests
and no one is in custody regarding
the case at this time. “This
is part of the continuing investigation
as we come up to the
one month anniversary” of her
disappearance, he said.

continued..

http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Aug26.pdf


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on August 30, 2011, 12:23:07 AM
Nothing on the toxicology reports yet? It sure is taking a long time isn't it? Do you think the police have the reports and have not released them? Maybe that is why they interviewed Kevin again? Has anyone else been re-interviewed lately?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 30, 2011, 03:56:47 AM
tcumom, keep your hopes up.  It's just too strange that Celina was thrown into the river with a blanket on her.  If she left to meet someone or was kidnapped, I doubt very much if she would have been wrapped in a blanket.  And that means she was murdered. 

My fear is that law enforcement already has the toxicology report and it didn't give them any information.  My hopes were resting on the toxicology reports so I hope I'm wrong.  The fact that they re-interviewed Mullaney could very well mean that they still suspect someone in that house.

It is very frustrating but all we can do is wait and hope.




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 30, 2011, 05:15:31 AM
Hey, Patti!  I agree with all you said.
And, I am relieved to see they've interviewed K. Mullaney again.
I *still* think it's odd he is living with Louisia and Kayla again, but oh well, it's not my business . . .

I wonder if ole' Wendell is still hospitalized . . . not a peep about him.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 30, 2011, 01:21:31 PM
I think it's pretty unprofessional and inconsiderate that law enforcement is saying nothing at all about this case.  It's almost as if it never happened.  With all of the national attention on this, law enforcement could at least give a press conference or an update even if it is to say that they have or have not gotten the toxicology reports back or just to say that they are still working on it but have not made any progress.  Anything.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on August 30, 2011, 06:24:59 PM
I think it's pretty unprofessional and inconsiderate that law enforcement is saying nothing at all about this case.  It's almost as if it never happened.  With all of the national attention on this, law enforcement could at least give a press conference or an update even if it is to say that they have or have not gotten the toxicology reports back or just to say that they are still working on it but have not made any progress.  Anything.



agree agree agree . 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on August 31, 2011, 09:01:44 AM
I think it's pretty unprofessional and inconsiderate that law enforcement is saying nothing at all about this case.  It's almost as if it never happened.  With all of the national attention on this, law enforcement could at least give a press conference or an update even if it is to say that they have or have not gotten the toxicology reports back or just to say that they are still working on it but have not made any progress.  Anything.


Maybe they drove him down to get Buccal DNA or other too?  Have they gotten DNA from him before?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on August 31, 2011, 09:43:45 AM
http://www.wcax.com/story/15364804/no-toxicology-results-yet-in-cass-death?redirected=true (http://www.wcax.com/story/15364804/no-toxicology-results-yet-in-cass-death?redirected=true)

No toxicology results yet in Cass death

West Stewartstown, New Hampshire -- August 31, 2011

There are still no answers as to how an 11-year-old girl in New Hampshire's north country died.

Celina Cass' body was pulled from the Connecticut River about a month ago.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on August 31, 2011, 01:20:07 PM
http://www.wcax.com/story/15364804/no-toxicology-results-yet-in-cass-death?redirected=true (http://www.wcax.com/story/15364804/no-toxicology-results-yet-in-cass-death?redirected=true)

No toxicology results yet in Cass death

West Stewartstown, New Hampshire -- August 31, 2011

There are still no answers as to how an 11-year-old girl in New Hampshire's north country died.

Celina Cass' body was pulled from the Connecticut River about a month ago.
 ::snipping2::

Thanks Klass, I couldn't find anything.  I'm glad the toxicology didn't come back yet because that means that something might still be found.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on September 06, 2011, 08:26:01 PM
Interesting post by Dan Cass on his public FB wall around 7:00 pm (his post was all caps, so I'm just pasting verbatim):

NOTICE TO ALL WENDELL NOYES WAS SEEN BY MYSELF AND HOLLY HE WAS SITTING BY A DOOR ON SIDE OF BUILDING AS U COME INTO BERLIN FROM 13 MILE WOODS.RIGHT AFTER BIG CHURCH AND RAILROAD TRACKS BY HIGH STREET!WE WENT AROUND TWICE TO MAKE SURE AND I POINTED AT HIM HE HAD MOVED FROM SITTING AFTER HE SAW ME AND WAS UP DRIVEWAY!
11 minutes ago

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423&sk=wall


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on September 06, 2011, 11:29:04 PM
Thanks tcumom!  Love his posts...we seem to get more info from him than anything and the replies answered a little more.  Can't wait for results and maybe an arrest.  Is/was Noyes supposed to be hiding or just being quiet/out of sight before the schnit hits the fan for him? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 07, 2011, 09:12:35 PM
I will be interested to see what happens at this point.  I don't know how to feel about Wendell..he lived there with them for some time and never posed a threat that we know of....He may have a mental health issue..but by all accounts that was being addressed for several years with out any abnormal behavior...again to what we know.

But..he makes the perfect fall-guy for anyone else in town if something went amiss that night..meaning someone else knowing the family..

I still am struck by the fact that her aunt said that the morning they discovers Celina missing..her pillow and comforter where on the living room sofa.  Then that remark was never repeated or spoken of..except another person..friend of the family said that Celina did not sleep in the basement when her sister was away..she did not ..

So why does Kevin come home and watch TV on the couch..if Celina's comforter and pillow were there..why wouldn't he wonder where she was?  Go check the basement..just too many unanswered questions....this is a family..people who relate to each other day to day and know each other's habits. And why after her aunt and a family friend said that Celina's comforter and pillow were on the couch that morning..why did that not get repeated again..and somewhat covered up by later reports..none of that makes sense.  Someone in that home killed her.but I don't believe it was Wendell.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: bebecat on September 10, 2011, 05:03:21 PM
Was the blanket ever confirmed? I know one MSM source reported it and then others seemed to be re-reporting it...but I know LE never confirmed it and you would not have been able to see a blanket the way they brought Celina's body up.

LE has not even said she was murdered at this point, have they? Not saying she wasn't, but it is extremely unusual for that, at least, not to be released, regardless of actual cause of death...makes me wonder if they really do not know.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on September 11, 2011, 06:22:42 PM
Was the blanket ever confirmed? I know one MSM source reported it and then others seemed to be re-reporting it...but I know LE never confirmed it and you would not have been able to see a blanket the way they brought Celina's body up.

LE has not even said she was murdered at this point, have they? Not saying she wasn't, but it is extremely unusual for that, at least, not to be released, regardless of actual cause of death...makes me wonder if they really do not know.

I really think either they don't know or just don't have enough proof.  That's why I'm pinning my hopes on the toxicology results to find something conclusive.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on September 11, 2011, 07:39:55 PM
Was the blanket ever confirmed? I know one MSM source reported it and then others seemed to be re-reporting it...but I know LE never confirmed it and you would not have been able to see a blanket the way they brought Celina's body up.

LE has not even said she was murdered at this point, have they? Not saying she wasn't, but it is extremely unusual for that, at least, not to be released, regardless of actual cause of death...makes me wonder if they really do not know.

I really think either they don't know or just don't have enough proof.  That's why I'm pinning my hopes on the toxicology results to find something conclusive.
::rhino:: ::rhino:: Am saying many prayers for this to be resolved.  Still so sad over this.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Blonde on September 21, 2011, 08:22:08 AM
Missing NH girl's mother: Separating from husband
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 8:06 AM EDT Updated: Sep 21, 2011 8:06 AM EDT


WEST STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. (AP) - The mother of an 11-year-old New Hampshire girl whose body was found a week after she disappeared from her home says she has separated from her husband, her daughter's stepfather, and is selling her house. ::snipping2::

Celina Cass was last seen alive at her West Stewartstown home July 25. Her body was recovered from the Connecticut River close to home near the borders of Canada and Vermont. An autopsy failed to pinpoint the cause and manner of death. Toxicology tests are pending.

There have been no arrests.

A tearful Louisa Cass tells WMUR-TV (http://bit.ly/o0NRiO ) she didn't hear anything the night her daughter disappeared.

Louisa Cass says she's separated from Celina's stepfather, Wendell Noyes. He has a history of psychiatric issues and has been in and out of hospitals since Celina disappeared.

http://www.wfsb.com/story/15512657/missing-nh-girls-mother-separating-from-husband


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on September 21, 2011, 09:12:50 AM


 ::snipping2::
Celina Cass was last seen alive at her West Stewartstown home July 25. Her body was recovered from the Connecticut River close to home near the borders of Canada and Vermont. An autopsy failed to pinpoint the cause and manner of death. Toxicology tests are pending.
 ::snipping2::
http://www.wfsb.com/story/15512657/missing-nh-girls-mother-separating-from-husband

(Respectfully snipped post for brevity/emphasis.)
Thank you for the update, Blonde.
It seems like toxicology tests take a long time, don't they?  Someone murdered young Celina and they're walking around free.  I hope there's an arrest soon and they're held accountable for the foul deed.  I'm not so certain in my feelings that Wendell Noyes had anything to do with Celina's death and I'm not surprised Wendell Noyes and Louisa Cass have separated. 




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cookie on September 21, 2011, 02:27:49 PM
I am not surprised that this couple has separated either.
the article said that she is selling her house..I thought that she was renting the apartment in that house..no?


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on September 21, 2011, 05:26:07 PM
I am not surprised that this couple has separated either.
the article said that she is selling her house..I thought that she was renting the apartment in that house..no?
I've understood all along that they were renting the house.

Talk about highs and lows ~ it was sooo fun watching DWTS last night and *chatting* on that thread.........then, I looked around the internet and saw the interview with Louisia .   

I don't know what I think after watching her, AND after watching Wendell's mother interviewed, too.

Any thoughts, anyone? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on September 21, 2011, 08:07:34 PM
Celina Cass' mother speaks out.. Video and Article..

Nearly two months after her daughter's disappearance, the mother of Celina Cass is speaking publicly for the first time. Luisia Cass remains in mourning, has separated from her husband, Wendell Noyes, and is struggling financially.

"I cry myself to sleep every night. I look at an empty house. I look for her in the mirror, I look for her in the store when we go shopping," Luisia Cass said.

A mother's pain-- raw and endless-- Luisia Cass struggles to sleep at night and says Celina's 13-year-old sister Kayla is always afraid now.

"When you think they're safe in their own home they're not," Luisia Cass

http://www.wcax.com/story/15515189/celina-cass-mother-speaks-out


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on September 21, 2011, 08:11:03 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/Louisacass-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Samantha on September 22, 2011, 04:28:31 PM
NH AG: Cass case declared a homicide
September 22, 2011

CONCORD, N.H.—New Hampshire authorities say they have determined a cause death for an 11-year-old West Stewartstown girl whose body was found in a river last month, but they aren't making it public while the investigation continues.


 ::snipping2::

http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2011/09/22/nh_family_meets_with_investigators_on_cass_case/ (http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2011/09/22/nh_family_meets_with_investigators_on_cass_case/)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 22, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
New Hampshire Authorities Say 11-Year-Old Celina Cass Was Murdered
Published September 22, 2011


WEST STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. –  An 11-year-old girl whose body was found in a river last month was murdered, New Hampshire authorities said Thursday.

Investigators said they also know what caused the death of Celina Cass. But they aren't making it public, because they say doing so could harm the integrity of the investigation.

"The investigation into the facts and circumstances of Celina Cass's murder remains active," Senior Assistant Attorney General Jane Young said in a statement.

Celina was reported missing July 26. Her body was found a week later in the Connecticut River, not far from her West Stewartstown home.

A reward has been offered for information leading to an arrest. No suspects have been named.

Young said Thursday that the cause of death was determined through information gleaned from the investigation and from toxicology tests.

<snipped>

A family friend confirmed that Luisia Cass has separated from Celina's stepfather, Wendell Noyes. He has a history of psychiatric issues and has been in and out of hospitals since Celina disappeared.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/22/new-hampshire-authorities-say-11-year-old-celina-cass-was-murdered/?test=latestnews



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 22, 2011, 08:25:07 PM
THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE UPDATES.

I still feel tere is more here..I just don't know what.  Wendall by all accounts is the likely suspect..yet that makes him the likely fall guy for anyone else with a more sinster motive..  I can not decide if he won't talk about it because he was involved or he won't talk about it because of his mental condition..in other words..was this something that broke his mental health once again..or is he guilty of harming her?

Also interesting that the State is more or less doing PR.  They know it has been a long time for the family and residents of the town..and yet they seem to still have nothing.  Toxicology reports will only say if she was drugged..they will not say by whom..and so far no cause of death..other then being found in a river wrapped in a blanket.  No one saying she was choked prior, she died prior of a beating..nothing.  Yet the ME shoould know the cause of death was or was not drowning..was she put in the river alive and drugged..or alive and restrained..or dead from other reasons.  No word on any of this..and there should have atleast been a report by now that she was either either dead or alive when she placed in the river..the lungs show differences when a body that is already dead is placed in water vs a body that is alive placed in water and drowned.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: KittyMom on September 22, 2011, 09:25:54 PM
I was wondering if the toxicology showed certain drugs that someone close to her had scripts for? 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on September 22, 2011, 11:23:53 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/modlock4.gif)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: marycat on September 23, 2011, 12:21:18 PM
I am not surprised that this couple has separated either.
the article said that she is selling her house..I thought that she was renting the apartment in that house..no?

I think whoever said that she was selling the house misspoke. Another article said she rented and Wendell helped with the rent. I looked on the property records site and see no info under grantees for Wendell and/or Louisa Noyes or Louisa Cass.

Apparently the house has been on the market prior to the events of the past 2 months. The house has been listed for 689 days on the realtor site below per info under the overview tab. It also says that the basement was partially finished. There are photos, but I don't see any that I recognize as the basement.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/859-Washington_Stewartstown_NH_03597_M39772-64435?source=web


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on September 25, 2011, 12:28:21 PM
Here is an article I came across from New England Cable News -

http://www.necn.com/09/25/11/NH-towns-skepticism-grows-in-Celina-Cass/landing_nation.html?&apID=6703e48311b845b8bb8c4a99cf1f8208

I'm starting to worry since it has been a really long time.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on September 25, 2011, 12:42:13 PM
tcumom previously posted the facebook wall of Dan Cass but I'll post it here again -

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423&sk=wall

It's pretty interesting.  When you read it, go to the comments section because he tells exactly where Wendell Noyes it currently living.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on September 25, 2011, 01:52:25 PM
Hey Patti, and any others who are interested.

Dan Cass (your link above) has added some info and comments in the past 2 or 3 days. 
Just interesting to me, that's all. 

Hopefully, the authorities are just biding their time . . .


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on September 26, 2011, 12:22:14 AM
Hey Patti, and any others who are interested.

Dan Cass (your link above) has added some info and comments in the past 2 or 3 days. 
Just interesting to me, that's all. 

Hopefully, the authorities are just biding their time . . .

Hi tcumom,

This is an article from Boston.com -

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/09/25/nh_towns_skepticism_grows_in_celina_cass_case/

A piece of the article says - ::snipping2::Efforts by The Associated Press to locate a phone number for Noyes have been unsuccessful, and his family members have declined in the past to comment. ::snipping2::


They could find out just by reading the facebook wall of Dan Cass.  It's also new to learn that Wendall smashed a picture of Celina - never heard that one before. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on September 26, 2011, 12:27:12 AM
Can't figure out what happened with the snipping.  Well, I can't edit my own post so I'll have to ask a moderator to correct it if it's important.  TIA


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on September 26, 2011, 02:08:28 AM
Can't figure out what happened with the snipping.  Well, I can't edit my own post so I'll have to ask a moderator to correct it if it's important.  TIA


The reason "the snipping" didn't work in your post above is you must leave a space before and a space after using one of the icons, otherwise it runs into the next letter and you won't see the image.  Look at your post and you will see what I mean.  It appears you clicked on the scissors for snipping but failed to hit space before typing Effort.  You can also type in the word snip or snipped in lieu of the scissors. 



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on September 26, 2011, 07:04:58 AM


http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/09/25/nh_towns_skepticism_grows_in_celina_cass_case/

Luisia hasn't filed for divorce only because she cannot afford the court fees, said the woman's friend and employer, Jeannine Brady.

This kind of surprises me.  Not the divorce.  I am surprised no one has pitched in to help her, in that it appears so many people are angry, disgusted, and fearful of pervert Noyes. 

Here in Texas, one can literally file online for $200.00 or so.  Yes, I think that's a lot of money, so I'm not dismissing the cost.....just saying maybe there's some sort of cheap-o divorce filing there.

Oh, and surely, given the circumstances, an attorney would donate his services.  If there's little to no property, the paralegal would probably do most of the paperwork (would anyway, I'd think!).

Finally, please folks, don't take it the wrong way . . . good grief, I have no idea of all the issues going on right now......just trying to brainstorm as to *how* Louisia could divorce this sicko.  I am not judging her. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on September 26, 2011, 11:28:28 AM


http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/09/25/nh_towns_skepticism_grows_in_celina_cass_case/

Luisia hasn't filed for divorce only because she cannot afford the court fees, said the woman's friend and employer, Jeannine Brady.

This kind of surprises me.  Not the divorce.  I am surprised no one has pitched in to help her, in that it appears so many people are angry, disgusted, and fearful of pervert Noyes. 

Here in Texas, one can literally file online for $200.00 or so.  Yes, I think that's a lot of money, so I'm not dismissing the cost.....just saying maybe there's some sort of cheap-o divorce filing there.

Oh, and surely, given the circumstances, an attorney would donate his services.  If there's little to no property, the paralegal would probably do most of the paperwork (would anyway, I'd think!).

Finally, please folks, don't take it the wrong way . . . good grief, I have no idea of all the issues going on right now......just trying to brainstorm as to *how* Louisia could divorce this sicko.  I am not judging her. 

Thank you MuffyBee.

I've been a paralegal for a long time and nothing is really cheap when it comes to lawyers.  I'm in Philadelphia but here's a link for a divorce in New Hampshire.

http://nhdivorce.com/nh-divorce/#q15

The cost problem comes into the picture because very few lawyers (at least here) do a divorce for a set fee.  Almost all bill on an hourly rate (billable hours broken down into increments) and this can be expensive depending on the amount of time spent on the case).  Even though the attorney will sit down with you to take down all of the information and have you sign Fee Agreements, etc., the paralegal does all of the typing of pleadings, making sure the divorce papers are filed correctly with the court, as well as making sure that the other party is served, even down to keeping the client informed on the progress of their matter.  The client is then billed on an hourly rate.  Most law firms here charge both for the attorney's time and the paralegal's time.  The client is also responsible for all  costs (i.e., the filing fee, a fee to the Sheriff's office for service. (or whoever the attorney uses for service), often even telephone calls, photocopies and correspondence.  All meaning that it is expensive even if you don't hire a lawyer just taking into consideration the court fees.

I don't know the laws governing divorcing a mentally ill person in New Hampshire and this could also be a problem, coupled with the fact that her daughter's murderer has not even been arrested yet.  It seems like Wendell is laying low and still either mentally ill or faking mental illness.  Aside from the money issue, I don't know if Louisia could deal with either the stress or the money issues of a divorce at this time.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on September 26, 2011, 12:56:32 PM
Hey, Patti ~ I still can't believe my school is allowing this site to come up . . . shhhhhh!  Heck, they block FoxNews, CNN, and Drudgereport.  hee.

Okay, I've got ya on the attorney's fees/costs.  gosh, it just seems someone would be willing to do it pro bono . . . surely, it wouldn't take a massive amount of time dividing property, etc. even though the court fees (I guess) would be the same no matter what.

Oh, well.  I'll obsess about something else in this case and move on from the (no) divorce.

so sad it all is.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on September 26, 2011, 06:57:19 PM
that divorce,i think it would be more complicated to get because of his mental state,seems
someone judge, lawyer, would have to have him declared ok, that  he understands what is
happening about the divorce,$$ or no $$, IDK the law on a mental issue,but it prob would
have some bearing,on the proceedings


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on September 26, 2011, 07:02:47 PM
that divorce,i think it would be more complicated to get because of his mental state,seems
someone judge, lawyer, would have to have him declared ok, that  he understands what is
happening about the divorce,$$ or no $$, IDK the law on a mental issue,but it prob would
have some bearing,on the proceedings

makes sense to me.  sure wish something positive would happen, and soon.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on September 26, 2011, 07:50:30 PM
that divorce,i think it would be more complicated to get because of his mental state,seems
someone judge, lawyer, would have to have him declared ok, that  he understands what is
happening about the divorce,$$ or no $$, IDK the law on a mental issue,but it prob would
have some bearing,on the proceedings

This is all I could find on New Hampshire divorce laws so far.

http://www.usdivorcelaws.com/new-hampshire-divorce-law


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 27, 2011, 10:40:23 AM
that divorce,i think it would be more complicated to get because of his mental state,seems
someone judge, lawyer, would have to have him declared ok, that  he understands what is
happening about the divorce,$$ or no $$, IDK the law on a mental issue,but it prob would
have some bearing,on the proceedings

This is all I could find on New Hampshire divorce laws so far.

http://www.usdivorcelaws.com/new-hampshire-divorce-law


After reading that article on NH divorce it appears it could get costly for Celina's Mom at this point if Wendall protested at any point...particularily the sharing of the retirement and pensions part..and I would imagine that is something she simply can't afford. 

I also think she may want to divorce him right now..but her plate is already full with trying to work at her friends thrift shop and also with caring for her other daughter.  Understandably it has been said that her other daughter is afraid to be alone and fearful in general now..heck she is only 13 years old..and who wouldn't be fearful, child or adult, after the murder of your sister..with no arrests?

Between her moving, caring for her daughter, part time work and then her greiving this has got to be so hard on her.  I imagine she feels as long as Wendall is out of the picture for the moment that is the best she can afford financially and emotionally.  I sure hope that authorities have gotten this family some counseling... to have to deal with all these issues at once must be overwehlming to say the least.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on September 28, 2011, 09:29:51 AM
Quote
pattianne
This is all I could find on New Hampshire divorce laws so far.

http://www.usdivorcelaws.com/new-hampshire-divorce-law

TY,does seem complicated,even the no fault/uncontested D,seems complicated
ive never divorced so it all seems complicated to me

when my 2nd and 3rd cuz were murdered,and not knowing who did it for a couple of months
put the fam in a state of fear,it was execution style,no robbery or rape,the 3yr old hid in attic
she had counseling for yrs,as did the grandP


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on September 28, 2011, 12:22:21 PM
Quote
pattianne
This is all I could find on New Hampshire divorce laws so far.

http://www.usdivorcelaws.com/new-hampshire-divorce-law

TY,does seem complicated,even the no fault/uncontested D,seems complicated
ive never divorced so it all seems complicated to me

when my 2nd and 3rd cuz were murdered,and not knowing who did it for a couple of months
put the fam in a state of fear,it was execution style,no robbery or rape,the 3yr old hid in attic
she had counseling for yrs,as did the grandP

CW, I'm really sorry.  I can't begin to imagine how horrible this had to be for you and your family.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  It's so sad when one of our family or friends pass on, but when it happens in a violent or unnatural way, it's got to be even harder.  And of course, in Celina's case, she was a child.  Even worse.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  I am hoping there will be justice for Celina.

I  wish someone would be able to give Celina's mom some assistance if she feels she needs to divorce.  Even though it might be an emotional strain right now, I'm thinking also of the legal ramifications if she continues to married. 



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on September 28, 2011, 12:44:07 PM
I  wish someone would be able to give Celina's mom some assistance if she feels she needs to divorce.  Even though it might be an emotional strain right now, I'm thinking also of the legal ramifications if she continues to married. 

Muffy ~ I snipped what you posted earlier.  Your point is exactly what I am saying/asking.  I am surprised no one has offered her assistance. 

I know every state is different; with that said, our son volunteers his legal services in San Antonio to those who cannot afford legal representation.  His firm and many others encourage their attorneys to do this for the community. 

I realize Louisia's town is tiny, but wishful thinking, I guess, that *someone* would step up....probably much more to it than what little I know.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on September 29, 2011, 12:17:57 PM
Quote
pattianne
This is all I could find on New Hampshire divorce laws so far.

http://www.usdivorcelaws.com/new-hampshire-divorce-law

TY,does seem complicated,even the no fault/uncontested D,seems complicated
ive never divorced so it all seems complicated to me

when my 2nd and 3rd cuz were murdered,and not knowing who did it for a couple of months
put the fam in a state of fear,it was execution style,no robbery or rape,the 3yr old hid in attic
she had counseling for yrs,as did the grandP

cw618, I''m so sorry to hear what happened to your family members.  I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been not knowing who did it.  I hope that the counseling for those who survived helped in some way.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 02, 2011, 12:07:21 PM
NH town's skepticism grows in Celina Cass case
By Lynne Tuohy
Associated Press / September 25, 2011

 ::snipping2::

The passage of two months should not suggest the case is at a dead end, Senior Assistant Attorney General Jane Young, who heads the investigation, said Friday.

 ::snipping2::

Luisia hasn't filed for divorce only because she cannot afford the court fees, said the woman's friend and employer, Jeannine Brady.

Brady said she saw Noyes smash a picture of Celina with his fist at a hotel in Canaan, Vt., where the family was staying while police searched their Stewartstown apartment.

continued..

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/09/25/nh_towns_skepticism_grows_in_celina_cass_case/



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 02, 2011, 12:38:06 PM
jerseygirl ~ thanks so much for posting the update. 

Gives me hope!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 02, 2011, 01:24:27 PM
NH town's skepticism grows in Celina Cass case
By Lynne Tuohy
Associated Press / September 25, 2011

 ::snipping2::

The passage of two months should not suggest the case is at a dead end, Senior Assistant Attorney General Jane Young, who heads the investigation, said Friday.

 ::snipping2::

Luisia hasn't filed for divorce only because she cannot afford the court fees, said the woman's friend and employer, Jeannine Brady.

Brady said she saw Noyes smash a picture of Celina with his fist at a hotel in Canaan, Vt., where the family was staying while police searched their Stewartstown apartment.

continued..

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2011/09/25/nh_towns_skepticism_grows_in_celina_cass_case/



I posted this article on the page before this because it was the first time I'd heard of Wendell smashing the picture.  I also remember reading that at some picnic event for Celina early on Wendell saw a picture of her on a picnic table and turned it face down.  Sorry, I don't remember which article. 

This makes it even more confusing.  It could either be a consciousness of guilt or it could be that he is truly a schizophrenic since I saw a doctor of t.v. saying that schizophrenics interpret pictures as staring at them and it scares them.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 02, 2011, 04:59:39 PM
I posted this article on the page before this because it was the first time I'd heard of Wendell smashing the picture.  I also remember reading that at some picnic event for Celina early on Wendell saw a picture of her on a picnic table and turned it face down.  Sorry, I don't remember which article. 

This makes it even more confusing.  It could either be a consciousness of guilt or it could be that he is truly a schizophrenic since I saw a doctor of t.v. saying that schizophrenics interpret pictures as staring at them and it scares them.
Hey, Patti ~
I've lost my mind.  I do remember you posted that a few days ago.  I read it while I was shoveling in lunch at school.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I remember what you're talking about with the picture displayed on the picnic table.  Was it maybe a video we saw on the Chronicle, or wmur?  I'm not even sure I'm typing the correct news sources.

I'm so glad some of the monkeys are still perusing this thread.  3 months now.  so sad.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 03, 2011, 12:57:56 PM
I stop by this thread everytime I am on SM hoping to see they have made some headway and made an arrest.

Other then declaring it a homicide...which was pretty obvious from the get-go they haven't seemed to come up with enough evidence to do anything constructive..like make an arrest or even name  proable suspects.

I feel so sad for this family and for the whole little town.....and can't quite believe that no one saw or heard anything that night this happened..nada.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on October 04, 2011, 10:11:47 AM
thanks monkeys,dude was a one time,afternoon date, 6 months prior,and never seen or talked to again
he was an unknown stalker, and to this day he has never said why he stalked her and killed her/them
as my cuz parents say counseling helps,but you never get over it

colebrook chronicle Sept23
 ::snipping2::
(Continued from page 1)
given the news that her daughter
was murdered. “She is very
emotionally distraught—the
news that they were told today
was a little bit more” than the
fact that Celina was murdered.
“She is struggling with how to
tell Kayla about how Celina
died,” said Brady. Kayla is Celina’s
older sister. “The family
was pretty much told how it
could have happened. Jane
Young also said to them, for the
integrity of the case, they
should not disclose what they
had been told. I think it gave
Louisia some hope that they
actually are actively looking
and they might find whoever
did it,” she said.
Brady also said that she is
hoping there were clues within
Celina’s body that gave investigators
information they need. “I
don’t know that for sure, it’s
just how I feel about it personally,”
said Brady. She also said
that Louisia and her family
were led to believe that there
are people investigators are
looking at of interest in the
case.
 ::snipping2::
We contacted Senior Assistant
Attorney General Jane
Young in Concord, who has
been in charge of the case ever
since the search for Celina began.
We asked Young what she
would like to tell local residents
who are concerned that no new
information or reports on the
toxicology results have been
issued. “I know how anxious the
community is but it is imperative
that we do not do anything
to jeopardize any resulting
prosecution,” she said, calling
the Celina Cass case a “horrific
crime.”
http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Sept23.pdf




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 04, 2011, 11:53:02 PM
thanks monkeys,dude was a one time,afternoon date, 6 months prior,and never seen or talked to again
he was an unknown stalker, and to this day he has never said why he stalked her and killed her/them
as my cuz parents say counseling helps,but you never get over it

colebrook chronicle Sept23
 ::snipping2::
(Continued from page 1)
given the news that her daughter
was murdered. “She is very
emotionally distraught—the
news that they were told today
was a little bit more” than the
fact that Celina was murdered.
“She is struggling with how to
tell Kayla about how Celina
died,” said Brady. Kayla is Celina’s
older sister. “The family
was pretty much told how it
could have happened. Jane
Young also said to them, for the
integrity of the case, they
should not disclose what they
had been told. I think it gave
Louisia some hope that they
actually are actively looking
and they might find whoever
did it,” she said.
Brady also said that she is
hoping there were clues within
Celina’s body that gave investigators
information they need. “I
don’t know that for sure, it’s
just how I feel about it personally,”
said Brady. She also said
that Louisia and her family
were led to believe that there
are people investigators are
looking at of interest in the
case.
 ::snipping2::
We contacted Senior Assistant
Attorney General Jane
Young in Concord, who has
been in charge of the case ever
since the search for Celina began.
We asked Young what she
would like to tell local residents
who are concerned that no new
information or reports on the
toxicology results have been
issued. “I know how anxious the
community is but it is imperative
that we do not do anything
to jeopardize any resulting
prosecution,” she said, calling
the Celina Cass case a “horrific
crime.”
http://www.colebrookchronicle.com/Sept23.pdf




Thanks for the update CW.

My cousin was also murdered..by her boyfriend..they were both 50 years old.  Her husband had died several years earlier..and she had met this guy..yep he was a family counselor..she was a teacher for mentally handicapped blind children (a very special and devoted to teacher)...and her own two children adored her..so did his..and then he got drunk and murdered her in her own home..so I know the feeling.  He never gave any explanation..and at first said he was innocent, but within days confessed..but never why..why..she was such a sweet kind person..why.  So who do you trust...

Anywho..in this case..I wish they would start making some real headway..Celina and her family deserve that...


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 05, 2011, 08:52:49 AM
I'm sorry for the loss of your gifted and beloved cousin, Gypsy.   ::MonkeyAngel::  I can't imagine losing a family member to a senseless murder.  And on top of it, the murderer never telling why.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

When Celina's body was recovered, I had very high hopes the person responsible would be found since I assumed there would be evidence that could provide information.  But so far, no arrests.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  I'm going to keep on hoping there will be a break in Celina's case. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 05, 2011, 10:34:44 AM
I'm sorry for the loss of your gifted and beloved cousin, Gypsy.   ::MonkeyAngel::  I can't imagine losing a family member to a senseless murder.  And on top of it, the murderer never telling why.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

When Celina's body was recovered, I had very high hopes the person responsible would be found since I assumed there would be evidence that could provide information.  But so far, no arrests.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  I'm going to keep on hoping there will be a break in Celina's case. 

ITA Muffy..I am waiting to hear someone has been arrested for Celina's murder.

Do they still consider the apartment house where they lived the crime scene..I remember the local LE putting crime scene tape around it...I also remember the two trucks going to the impound for a looksee.  Have we even offically heard what and where the true crime scene is of her murder..the apartment..yet no one haeard or saw anything there..the truck...very little info coming from LE.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 08, 2011, 12:09:36 AM
Days and days ..into months..and still nothing solid..how heartbreaking for Celina's family, friends and her town.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 09, 2011, 02:00:48 AM
I check Celina's page every day..and still noting..if it was her stepfather..I just think an arrest would have been made by now..I mean..I think the State dropped the ball..no one..no official crime scene..noting..this must terrify her Mom and sister.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 09, 2011, 02:16:45 PM
I check Celina's page every day..and still noting..if it was her stepfather..I just think an arrest would have been made by now..I mean..I think the State dropped the ball..no one..no official crime scene..noting..this must terrify her Mom and sister.

I check the internet and here every day too.  It's hard to believe that there is just nothing, not even a mention on the news.  I pray this is not one of those cases that never gets solved.

The only possible thing I can think of would be if it was Wendell, he's still mentally ill and LE knows that to charge him would be almost futile because for sure he would claim insanity.  Maybe they do have evidence and are waiting for him to be officially discharged.  Here's hoping.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 10, 2011, 08:10:56 PM
I check Celina's page every day..and still noting..if it was her stepfather..I just think an arrest would have been made by now..I mean..I think the State dropped the ball..no one..no official crime scene..noting..this must terrify her Mom and sister.

I check the internet and here every day too.  It's hard to believe that there is just nothing, not even a mention on the news.  I pray this is not one of those cases that never gets solved.

The only possible thing I can think of would be if it was Wendell, he's still mentally ill and LE knows that to charge him would be almost futile because for sure he would claim insanity.  Maybe they do have evidence and are waiting for him to be officially discharged.  Here's hoping.

I don't know that Wendall hasn't been discharged..and even if he hadn't..had he confessed to any of the shrinks or anyone else there..they still are within the law to notify his family of such....and maybe even the State..those laws vary by state.  In my state insanity is not even a plea or plea bargain..you do the crime..you do the time.   So it would depend on how New Hampshire viewed the insanity notion. 

I think that maybe one reason that Wendall has refused to talk to anyone, even his Mom about Celina.  However, it could also mean that someone is setting him up..and he doesn't know how to deal with that.

I think Wendall presents the perfect fall guy for someone else..only because he was with Celina's Mom for awhile before they were married..if she or her girls showed any doubts about him I am sure she would not have married him..she seems like a very down to earth normal person, who works hard and was taking care of her girls the best she could..as she is doing now for Kayla.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: wildmala on October 11, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
http://www.wmur.com/r/29453906/detail.html

Celina's Stepfather: 'I Had Nothing To Do With It'

WEST STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. -- The stepfather of a girl whose body was found dead in a river near her home is speaking out about the case. Tuesday, October 11, 2011.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: labubske on October 11, 2011, 10:02:23 PM
I really wonder about Kevin...If Wendell did it why didn't Kevin notice anything when he came in at midnight?  What did Wendell go to bed and get up AFTER Kevin went to sleep and kill her while everyone else slept?  I just don't think so...I think Kevin may very well be guilty.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: wildmala on October 12, 2011, 12:16:34 PM
http://www.wmur.com/r/29453906/detail.html

Celina's Stepfather: 'I Had Nothing To Do With It'

WEST STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. -- The stepfather of a girl whose body was found dead in a river near her home is speaking out about the case. Tuesday, October 11, 2011.

Wendell's body language is so strange in this video.  There are times it's almost threatening.  I don't like how he had a difficult time answering how he came to realize Celina was missing. "uhhhhh"  Anyway, it looks like he's back in West Stewartstown...  The reported talked about how he is saying how much weight he's lost, how he's only drinking coffee (doesn't look like it) and has nothing...is this how he presented himself?  Guess what budy...it's not about YOU...it's about Celina.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 12, 2011, 01:06:01 PM
http://www.wmur.com/r/29453906/detail.html

Celina's Stepfather: 'I Had Nothing To Do With It'

WEST STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. -- The stepfather of a girl whose body was found dead in a river near her home is speaking out about the case. Tuesday, October 11, 2011.

I'm still suspicious of both Wendall and Kevin in this case and I still can't pin down which one killed her but they are the only two I suspect right now.  What makes it more puzzling is that Wendall still talks and acts very medicated and that Kevin is living with Luisia and Kayla, which means that they probably don't suspect him.  I can't see any kind of abduction because there would probably be some screaming of Celina's part.  You would think so anyway.  What I do know is that the woman interviewing Wendall is totally rude and unprofessional in my opinion.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 12, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
http://www.wmur.com/r/29453906/detail.html

Celina's Stepfather: 'I Had Nothing To Do With It'

WEST STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. -- The stepfather of a girl whose body was found dead in a river near her home is speaking out about the case. Tuesday, October 11, 2011.

I'm still suspicious of both Wendall and Kevin in this case and I still can't pin down which one killed her but they are the only two I suspect right now.  What makes it more puzzling is that Wendall still talks and acts very medicated and that Kevin is living with Luisia and Kayla, which means that they probably don't suspect him.  I can't see any kind of abduction because there would probably be some screaming of Celina's part.  You would think so anyway.  What I do know is that the woman interviewing Wendall is totally rude and unprofessional in my opinion.

I think Wendall has been set up..by Kevin or a friend of Kevin's.  We haven't really discussed the possibility of there being a third male in the house that night..but suppose Kevin invited a friend over..I don't know why..but I have always felt Kevin would be the answer to this..either he did this or he knows who did..the door was left open for him..he was the last one home that night...I hope I am wrong .but I think Kevin either did this or one of his friends that he may have invited over after he got home. 

We've never heard about a friend or anyone involved that night..but maybe Kevin's life depends on his silence...or maybe Kevin did this and has convinced everyone that Wendall did this..who can say if Kevin may have even had access to the Wendall's truck keys after he went to bed.. 

Kevin said he came home and watched TV on the couch...which means if Celina was supposed to be in her room downstairs he wouldn't have seen her..which is probably what he contends. Yet, we have so many friends and relatives that say she would not have slept downstairs alone without Kayla.

So who would have come in the house between 9:30 and 11:30 and abducted and murdered Celina..no one..it does not even make sense.  It has to be someone she knew and felt comfortable around because she made no noise, no crying, no screams, no yelling..and Wendall's Mom said she would have heard something..she's a light sleeper, and Louisa and Wendall are in bed too..no one wakes up..not a sound..not a boo..



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 12, 2011, 05:02:31 PM
I'm still suspicious of both Wendall and Kevin in this case and I still can't pin down which one killed her but they are the only two I suspect right now.  What makes it more puzzling is that Wendall still talks and acts very medicated and that Kevin is living with Luisia and Kayla, which means that they probably don't suspect him.  I can't see any kind of abduction because there would probably be some screaming of Celina's part.  You would think so anyway.  What I do know is that the woman interviewing Wendall is totally rude and unprofessional in my opinion.

Patti ~ completely agree with you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 14, 2011, 07:48:10 AM

Celina Cass’ mother disputes husband’s story

COLEBROOK, N.H. — Celina Cass’ heartbroken mother is disputing her estranged husband’s account of the night the slain 11-year-old vanished, saying he wasn’t in bed early but instead was up drinking with friends at their West Stewartstown home.

“He was visiting on the porch with two friends. They were drinking on the porch. They were socializing,” Louisia Noyes said yesterday of Celina’s stepfather, Wendell Noyes. Louisia Noyes told a TV interviewer last month that she and her husband had split up since Celina’s killing.

 ::snipping2::

Mullaney declined to speak to a reporter yesterday, even as friends and family urged him to do so. Mullaney’s father said authorities have urged his son not to speak with media.

Louisia Noyes said Mullaney has cooperated with police. “He’s done a polygraph. He’s been strip-searched,” she said.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1014mom_recalls_tragic_night_celinas_parent_disputes_husbands_story/srvc=home&position=2


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 14, 2011, 08:02:38 AM
This is surreal.

Why on earth has no one heard this before.  Wendell drinking with friends on the front porch?

I wonder if Tommie Richards (Wendell's mother, or is it step-mother... I've read both) heard/saw anything that night.  Surely she was questioned.

Just an aside . . . after reading that article Jerseygirl posted (thank you  ::MonkeyKiss::) . . . I thought why on earth did they strip- search Kevin Mullaney . . . did they think he had hidden evidence?  Seriously.

Just my opinion ... *if* Wendell was indeed knocking back a few on the front porch, late evening . . . well, that puts the spotlight on him . . . definitely.  And then I wonder, where was Wendell when Kevin cruised in that night.

Oh, yeah. . . .one more thing.  Why would the police NOT want Louisia to see the blanket, but let her see the pajama bottoms and underwear.  what?

After reading that article, I sure get vibes that Louisia is defending Kevin . . . just my opinion. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 14, 2011, 09:49:47 AM
This is surreal.

Why on earth has no one heard this before.  Wendell drinking with friends on the front porch?

I wonder if Tommie Richards (Wendell's mother, or is it step-mother... I've read both) heard/saw anything that night.  Surely she was questioned.

Just an aside . . . after reading that article Jerseygirl posted (thank you  ::MonkeyKiss::) . . . I thought why on earth did they strip- search Kevin Mullaney . . . did they think he had hidden evidence?  Seriously.Just my opinion ... *if* Wendell was indeed knocking back a few on the front porch, late evening . . . well, that puts the spotlight on him . . . definitely.  And then I wonder, where was Wendell when Kevin cruised in that night.

Oh, yeah. . . .one more thing.  Why would the police NOT want Louisia to see the blanket, but let her see the pajama bottoms and underwear.  what?

After reading that article, I sure get vibes that Louisia is defending Kevin . . . just my opinion. 

BBM

ITA..What in the world would a strip search accomplish...and why wouldn't LE want the Mom to look at the blanket and say that it either was or was not from their home? 

Wendall drinking on the porch, Kevin coming in and watching TV on the couch..a comforter and pillow found on the couch the next morning according to the aunt.  Celina never sleeping downstairs alone according to all the family..except Mom.

This just gets more confusing ...and I still have a hinky feeling about Kevin.  Certainly if Wendall was drinking and socializing on the porch that night the people he was with can verify that and what time they left and if Kevin was or wasn't home at that time. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 14, 2011, 11:11:39 AM
This is surreal.

Why on earth has no one heard this before.  Wendell drinking with friends on the front porch?

I wonder if Tommie Richards (Wendell's mother, or is it step-mother... I've read both) heard/saw anything that night.  Surely she was questioned.

Just an aside . . . after reading that article Jerseygirl posted (thank you  ::MonkeyKiss::) . . . I thought why on earth did they strip- search Kevin Mullaney . . . did they think he had hidden evidence?  Seriously.Just my opinion ... *if* Wendell was indeed knocking back a few on the front porch, late evening . . . well, that puts the spotlight on him . . . definitely.  And then I wonder, where was Wendell when Kevin cruised in that night.

Oh, yeah. . . .one more thing.  Why would the police NOT want Louisia to see the blanket, but let her see the pajama bottoms and underwear.  what?

After reading that article, I sure get vibes that Louisia is defending Kevin . . . just my opinion. 

BBM

ITA..What in the world would a strip search accomplish...and why wouldn't LE want the Mom to look at the blanket and say that it either was or was not from their home? 

Wendall drinking on the porch, Kevin coming in and watching TV on the couch..a comforter and pillow found on the couch the next morning according to the aunt.  Celina never sleeping downstairs alone according to all the family..except Mom.

This just gets more confusing ...and I still have a hinky feeling about Kevin.  Certainly if Wendall was drinking and socializing on the porch that night the people he was with can verify that and what time they left and if Kevin was or wasn't home at that time. 

Wow, not this is getting totally confusing.  This is the only thing I can think of for answers right now -

There has to be a reason police wouldn't let Louisia see the blanket.  The first thing that popped into my mind is, God forbid, may it was clawed at or torn either from trying to escape or to breathe.

The strip search of Mullaney could be to check for any defensive wounds or scratches, etc.

The police have to know that Wendall was lying about going to bed early.  I sure hope they have found his drinking buddies and interviewed them because someone had to tell them about Wendall being out on the porch drinking.

The fact that in the article it states "Granite State investigators declined comment last night, but they told the Herald this week they don’t have enough evidence to make an arrest." kind of leads me back to the only theory I have and that is they don't want to arrest Wendall without enough evidence because for sure, he will claim insanity.  Maybe they want some iron-clad evidence to at least (if he, in fact, killed Celine) put him in an institution for life.

This is very frustrating.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 14, 2011, 11:29:56 AM
Here's another article about Wendell being interviewed.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1372937&srvc=rss

I find it odd that Mullaney lived there and needed to have the door left unlocked.  It seems to me that he would have had a key. 

Also from the article -

“I certainly understand the public safety factor,” Young said. “We’ve said from the beginning that people should be vigilant and should be cautious.”

Wendall is out of the hospital.  I heard on some interview that he is living in an apartment.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 14, 2011, 11:37:44 AM
This is an older article but it says that Tommie Richards left to go home and Louisia left to go to work at 8:15 a.m.  It also says that Mullaney got home the night before around midnight and sat on the sofa, assuming that Celina was downstairs in the basement.

So, was the t.v. on when Mullaney got home?  Was there a blanket and pillow on the sofa?  Didn't either Tommie Richards or Louisia notice that Celina was not on the sofa and also assume that she was downstairs?  

I think something happened after the women went to bed that night,

Edit to add link by PattiAnne.  MB  http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Curly on October 14, 2011, 01:55:47 PM
This is surreal.

Why on earth has no one heard this before.  Wendell drinking with friends on the front porch?

I wonder if Tommie Richards (Wendell's mother, or is it step-mother... I've read both) heard/saw anything that night.  Surely she was questioned.

Just an aside . . . after reading that article Jerseygirl posted (thank you  ::MonkeyKiss::) . . . I thought why on earth did they strip- search Kevin Mullaney . . . did they think he had hidden evidence?  Seriously.Just my opinion ... *if* Wendell was indeed knocking back a few on the front porch, late evening . . . well, that puts the spotlight on him . . . definitely.  And then I wonder, where was Wendell when Kevin cruised in that night.

Oh, yeah. . . .one more thing.  Why would the police NOT want Louisia to see the blanket, but let her see the pajama bottoms and underwear.  what?

After reading that article, I sure get vibes that Louisia is defending Kevin . . . just my opinion. 

BBM

ITA..What in the world would a strip search accomplish...and why wouldn't LE want the Mom to look at the blanket and say that it either was or was not from their home? 

Wendall drinking on the porch, Kevin coming in and watching TV on the couch..a comforter and pillow found on the couch the next morning according to the aunt.  Celina never sleeping downstairs alone according to all the family..except Mom.

This just gets more confusing ...and I still have a hinky feeling about Kevin.  Certainly if Wendall was drinking and socializing on the porch that night the people he was with can verify that and what time they left and if Kevin was or wasn't home at that time. 

The only thing I can think of is to see if he had any scratches or bruises on his body.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 14, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
This is an older article but it says that Tommie Richards left to go home and Louisia left to go to work at 8:15 a.m.  It also says that Mullaney got home the night before around midnight and sat on the sofa, assuming that Celina was downstairs in the basement.

So, was the t.v. on when Mullaney got home?  Was there a blanket and pillow on the sofa?  Didn't either Tommie Richards or Louisia notice that Celina was not on the sofa and also assume that she was downstairs?  

I think something happened after the women went to bed that night,

(Bolded by me)
Pattianne, would you please post the link to this article, and I'll edit and add it to your original post.  
Thanks-  Muffy

Here you go Muffy.

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html


Thank you, MB


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 14, 2011, 08:26:11 PM
This is an older article but it says that Tommie Richards left to go home and Louisia left to go to work at 8:15 a.m.  It also says that Mullaney got home the night before around midnight and sat on the sofa, assuming that Celina was downstairs in the basement.

So, was the t.v. on when Mullaney got home?  Was there a blanket and pillow on the sofa?  Didn't either Tommie Richards or Louisia notice that Celina was not on the sofa and also assume that she was downstairs?  

I think something happened after the women went to bed that night,

(Bolded by me)
Pattianne, would you please post the link to this article, and I'll edit and add it to your original post.  
Thanks-  Muffy

Here you go Muffy.

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/929105-196/details-on-celinas-lastnight-alive-described.html


Thank you, MB

I am very certain somehting happened after the women went to bed that night..but that still doesn't explain the comforter and pillow on the sofa..Wendall on the front porch drinking..and was he still there when Kevin got home..and if so..how did Kevin sit on the couch and watch tv with the comforter and pillow there without wondering where Celina was and when she was coming back into the living room to sleep?  Just toomany questions in my mind for Kevin that night....if I came home and a comforter and pillow were on the couch I would be looking for the person who was going to sleep there..before I sat down to watch tv..and most certainly before I left the room and went to my room to bed.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 14, 2011, 08:40:00 PM
Reposting my comment from late morning/early afternoon today.

After reading that article, I sure get vibes that Louisia is defending Kevin . . . just my opinion.

Something smells with this story.   


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 15, 2011, 06:28:25 PM
Just putting this out there in case anyone else (other than me) is interested. 
I do still read Dan Cass' FB wall . . . he definitely has some thoughts about Celina's death . . . he does mention where Wendell is living now (has mentioned this previously) . . .

Now has more recent comments alluding to Wendell and his beverage buddies that night.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000535910423&sk=wall


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: cw618 on October 15, 2011, 09:02:59 PM
wonder if there was another door to the apt,that one of the beverage buddies
could access without being seen,maybe the blanket has something on it,the LE
didnt want her to see


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2011, 10:15:57 PM
wonder if there was another door to the apt,that one of the beverage buddies
could access without being seen,maybe the blanket has something on it,the LE
didnt want her to see



cw, I wonder if perhaps the outline of Celina's body or features could be seen on the blanket?  


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 15, 2011, 10:30:11 PM
wonder if there was another door to the apt,that one of the beverage buddies
could access without being seen,maybe the blanket has something on it,the LE
didnt want her to see



cw, I wonder if perhaps the outline of Celina's body or features could be seen on the blanket?  
I'm not near as smart as the rest of y'all, so with that said . . . if she had been wrapped in the blanket and put in the water, would the outline of her body and/or any stains have be removed after a week?
Didn't ask that real well, but perhaps it makes a little sense.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2011, 10:48:46 PM
wonder if there was another door to the apt,that one of the beverage buddies
could access without being seen,maybe the blanket has something on it,the LE
didnt want her to see



cw, I wonder if perhaps the outline of Celina's body or features could be seen on the blanket?  
I'm not near as smart as the rest of y'all, so with that said . . . if she had been wrapped in the blanket and put in the water, would the outline of her body and/or any stains have be removed after a week?
Didn't ask that real well, but perhaps it makes a little sense.  ::MonkeyEek::

I think stains would still be there.  Blanket around her little body, esp. if it was tied on etc.   Decomp. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 15, 2011, 10:53:44 PM
Muffy ~ thank you.  I need a monkey hug icon to give you!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2011, 11:06:01 PM
Muffy ~ thank you.  I need a monkey hug icon to give you!

tcumom, I just don't know if there would be an outline or not, but I was thinking back to Caylee Anthony's case. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 15, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
Hey Patti ~ Are you around?  Check out that FB page I mentioned above.



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: melisb on October 15, 2011, 11:50:25 PM
I really like Dan Cass and his honesty.  I believe him to be right and Noyes is guilty and thank goodness if true he has the ballzzzz to speak his truth!  All MOO!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 16, 2011, 12:06:06 AM
I really like Dan Cass and his honesty.  I believe him to be right and Noyes is guilty and thank goodness if true he has the ballzzzz to speak his truth!  All MOO!
::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: wildmala on October 18, 2011, 03:33:52 PM


Hmmm...so now not only is it a nut-case...but a drunk nut case.  Yup...Wendell has guilty written all over himself.  My feeling is that it wasn't him alone.  My feeling is that they were drunk and it started out as something 'playing around' and it got intense and before you know it was a 'gang style' action (even if just two people) if you know what I mean.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And then nutty Wendell took it to an extreme.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 18, 2011, 08:53:03 PM


Hmmm...so now not only is it a nut-case...but a drunk nut case.  Yup...Wendell has guilty written all over himself.  My feeling is that it wasn't him alone.  My feeling is that they were drunk and it started out as something 'playing around' and it got intense and before you know it was a 'gang style' action (even if just two people) if you know what I mean.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And then nutty Wendell took it to an extreme.

I'm starting to agree with you wildmala.  I'm beginning to think that Wendall and his drinking buddies got out of hand.  I could be wrong and it might have been Wendall and Mullaney or Wendall and a buddy but I think it took more that just Wendall to subdue her since not a single sound was heard.  Plus, dumping the body.  And now he's cowering behind his "mental" defense.  Well he better stay there because is he is ever declared totally sane, I think LE is going to come swooping in on him.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 19, 2011, 07:04:07 AM


Hmmm...so now not only is it a nut-case...but a drunk nut case.  Yup...Wendell has guilty written all over himself.  My feeling is that it wasn't him alone.  My feeling is that they were drunk and it started out as something 'playing around' and it got intense and before you know it was a 'gang style' action (even if just two people) if you know what I mean.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And then nutty Wendell took it to an extreme.

I'm starting to agree with you wildmala.  I'm beginning to think that Wendall and his drinking buddies got out of hand.  I could be wrong and it might have been Wendall and Mullaney or Wendall and a buddy but I think it took more that just Wendall to subdue her since not a single sound was heard.  Plus, dumping the body.  And now he's cowering behind his "mental" defense.  Well he better stay there because is he is ever declared totally sane, I think LE is going to come swooping in on him.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 19, 2011, 07:05:52 AM
Patti ~ Hi !   I meant to say in my above post that I bolded the type in your post .   Not enough coffee yet this morning . ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 19, 2011, 02:57:46 PM
Patti ~ Hi !   I meant to say in my above post that I bolded the type in your post .   Not enough coffee yet this morning . ::MonkeyCool::

Hi tcumom.  The more I think about it, both Louisia and Tommie were upstairs.  Kayla was away and Mullaney was out.  Wendall was on the porch drinking with buddies.  And neither Louisia nor Tommie heard anything at all?  I think she was somehow subdued and that it took more than one person to do it.  Otherwise, I think she would have made noise, even if just a quick scream - something.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 20, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
I wonder if LE have interviewed the people or person that was drinking on the porch with Wendall that night/

I am surprised that news crews didn't get that info out of Wendall earlier..Wendall was certainly out and about those first few days..remember the collapsing (acting) on the sidewalk routine?  I wonder how many people were there..who they were..so far everyone seems to be related or semi related in this story....and in such a small town you would think other's might have noticed the porch social Wendall was holding, who was there, when they arrived, when they left.  In a small town it is hard to keep secrets..

For future reference some of us without Facebook can't get in to read Dan's page..if someone could post the reference to Wendall and that party it would help the rest of us..TYIA


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on October 20, 2011, 09:55:23 AM
Sorry to hit & run monkey friends, but I thought this was interesting to note:

http://www.wmur.com/r/29535495/detail.html

No Rest Until Cass' Killer Found, Mom Says
Still No Leads On West Stewartstown Girl's Death
POSTED: 10:46 pm EDT October 19, 2011
UPDATED: 9:01 am EDT October 20, 2011


Snipped:

Cass is now sharing a duplex in Vermont with Celina's sister, Kayla, and two other people.

She said she goes over those last moments with her daughter again and again, clinging to the memories for comfort. Louisia Cass said she kissed Celina good night at 9 p.m. and never saw her again.

The two other people living in the duplex are Kevin Mullaney and his father, Mark.

Mullaney said Louisia is like a mother to him and Celina, a sister. The night Celina Cass disappeared, he said he didn't see Celina at all.


Edit to remove inappropriate comment.  MB


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on October 20, 2011, 10:05:29 AM
Wanted to come back real quick to say sorry about my politically incorrect statement above. Glad the term I used was starred out bc I'm feeling bad about using it. It just that is sooo frustrating the thus "mother" moves from place to place & lugs her daughter along. Shame she couldn't just stay with Adam for a bit.

Titch, I've removed your comment because it was more than "politically incorrect" in regard to the use of the term you used, it was the whole statement.  You may be frustrated with the case, but it's not a reason to disrespect an entire group of people with disabilities.  This isn't the first time I've had to edit your posts because of this subject.  You've posted an apology of sorts, but in the same instance you used your frustration as an excuse.  It tells me this is what you think about some folks with disabilities. I'm disappointed because I like many of your posts and appreciate your research, but I would suggest you get more information on this topic.  You often post in the missing and exploited threads and when you post what you did in the post I just edited, you are being really mean imo.  MuffyBee


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Titch on October 20, 2011, 10:06:42 AM
I'm typos are off the hook...as usual. My smartphone needs to go to school, literally!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 20, 2011, 11:09:56 AM
http://www.wmur.com/r/29535495/detail.html
No Rest Until Cass' Killer Found, Mom Says
Still No Leads On West Stewartstown Girl's Death

Posted October 19, 2011
Updated October 20, 2011

WEST STEWARTSTOWN, N.H. -- The mother of an 11-year-old girl killed in West Stewartstown said she won't rest until her daughter's killer is caught.
 ::snipping2::
he West Stewartstown community said it is getting frustrated because after 2 1/2 months after the girl's death, there are still no leads to her case.

"It'll never go away. I miss my baby. I want her home," Louisia Cass said.

Louisia Cass said she visits her daughter's grave once a week.

"I don't know anything. I just know that she's gone, and she shouldn't be gone," Louisia Cass said.

Louisia Cass is now sharing a duplex in Vermont with Celina's sister, Kayla, and two other people.
More...
Video at Link





Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 20, 2011, 12:35:53 PM
I wonder if LE have interviewed the people or person that was drinking on the porch with Wendall that night/

I am surprised that news crews didn't get that info out of Wendall earlier..Wendall was certainly out and about those first few days..remember the collapsing (acting) on the sidewalk routine?  I wonder how many people were there..who they were..so far everyone seems to be related or semi related in this story....and in such a small town you would think other's might have noticed the porch social Wendall was holding, who was there, when they arrived, when they left.  In a small town it is hard to keep secrets..

For future reference some of us without Facebook can't get in to read Dan's page..if someone could post the reference to Wendall and that party it would help the rest of us..TYIA

GypsyDD, it wasn't Dan Cass who said it, it was Louisia in this article -

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1014mom_recalls_tragic_night_celinas_parent_disputes_husbands_story/srvc=home&position=4


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 20, 2011, 12:46:26 PM
I don't have a FB page.

Unless he has changed it recently, Dan Cass' FB wall and info was available for anyone to see/read, whether one has a FB account or not.

That's why I always checked it. . . .anyone looking up his name could see/read it!

I'm at school (lunch) right now, and of course they've blocked FB from the computers~middle schoolers!   ::MonkeyEek::

Can't link to the account right now, BUT I've posted the links to Dan's FB account several times, in case anyone is interested.  He has very definite opinions !   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: wildmala on October 20, 2011, 12:56:46 PM

Cass Houseguest Describes Night Girl Disappeared
http://www.wmur.com/r/29533218/detail.html

Video at link

 ::snipping2::

When News 9's Amy Coveno caught up with Mullaney, he was watching television with his father, Mark, and Louisia Cass in the new duplex they share across the river in Vermont. News 9 asked him about the night Celina disappeared. He said he arrived at the home at midnight.

"All the vehicles were in the driveway as normal," he said. "The door was open. Everybody's sleeping. The lights are off. I just turned on the light, made a couple of sandwiches, watched TV and went to bed."

Mullaney said he went upstairs about 1 a.m. and was out the door by 6:15 a.m. for a job he had in Canaan, Vt.

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/29533218/detail.html#ixzz1bLFY0IFZ
 ::snipping2::
 ::snipping2::


In the early stages of the investigation, Mullaney confirmed, he was treated like a suspect. His red pickup truck was taken in for forensic testing.

"Polygraph tests, DNA tests, pictures," he said. "There were a million and one questions."

Mullaney said he agreed to a full-body photograph. He said he was told investigators were looking for signs of a struggle, such as scrapes or bruises.

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/29533218/detail.html#ixzz1bLFfpw2r
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 20, 2011, 01:17:25 PM
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110726/NEWS07/110729914/0/opinionStewartstown
(http://www.unionleader.com/storyimage/UL/20110726/NEWS07/110729914/AR/AR-110729914.jpg&q=100&maxw=350)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 20, 2011, 01:19:11 PM
http://www.wmur.com/newsarchive/28679347/detail.html


(http://www.wmur.com/2011/0728/28691238_180X240.jpg)
NH State Police



Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 20, 2011, 01:19:46 PM
http://www.wmur.com/newsarchive/28679347/detail.html



(http://www.wmur.com/2011/0727/28684916_180X240.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 20, 2011, 01:22:55 PM


http://www.facebook.com/kayla.n.laro
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/203065_100001206046116_4418836_n.jpg)
Titch


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 20, 2011, 01:24:24 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/CelinaCassDay-.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 20, 2011, 01:25:36 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/KevinMullaney.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: wildmala on October 20, 2011, 01:57:48 PM

Cass Houseguest Describes Night Girl Disappeared
http://www.wmur.com/r/29533218/detail.html

Video at link

 ::snipping2::

When News 9's Amy Coveno caught up with Mullaney, he was watching television with his father, Mark, and Louisia Cass in the new duplex they share across the river in Vermont. News 9 asked him about the night Celina disappeared. He said he arrived at the home at midnight.

"All the vehicles were in the driveway as normal," he said. "The door was open. Everybody's sleeping. The lights are off. I just turned on the light, made a couple of sandwiches, watched TV and went to bed."

Mullaney said he went upstairs about 1 a.m. and was out the door by 6:15 a.m. for a job he had in Canaan, Vt.

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/29533218/detail.html#ixzz1bLFY0IFZ
 ::snipping2::
 ::snipping2::


In the early stages of the investigation, Mullaney confirmed, he was treated like a suspect. His red pickup truck was taken in for forensic testing.

"Polygraph tests, DNA tests, pictures," he said. "There were a million and one questions."

Mullaney said he agreed to a full-body photograph. He said he was told investigators were looking for signs of a struggle, such as scrapes or bruises.

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/29533218/detail.html#ixzz1bLFfpw2r
 ::snipping2::

I hate to do this at the end of the thread...please move over to new thread if okay.

From same article:
 ::snipping2::

News 9 earlier interviewed Louisia Cass' estranged husband, Wendell Noyes. While Mullaney agreed with Noyes that the front door was left unlocked for Mullaney that night -- as Noyes told News 9 -- Mullaney and Louisia Cass disputed Noye's statement about when he went to bed that night.

"I was at a friend's house, and we were just driving around, and I saw (Noyes) there, and we just kept driving around and went back to (my friend's) house," Mullaney said. "Then, a few hours later, I go home."

When News 9 spoke to Noyes about Mullaney's account, he maintained that he went to bed at 9 p.m. with Louisia Cass.

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/29533218/detail.html#ixzz1bLUUUxcV
 ::snipping2::

If this statement is accurate, then whatever happened to Celina may have happened between the time Mullaney drove by the house with his friends and when he arrived home at midnight.  I wonder what time it was when he drove by and saw Wendall on the porch with friends.  AND my guess is that Mullaney drove by the house AFTER 9pm when Wendall said he was already in bed.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: klaasend on October 20, 2011, 03:27:43 PM
Wildmala - I copied it over to the new thread  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: wildmala on October 20, 2011, 03:52:25 PM
Wildmala - I copied it over to the new thread  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks!


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 20, 2011, 07:28:27 PM
I wonder if LE have interviewed the people or person that was drinking on the porch with Wendall that night/

I am surprised that news crews didn't get that info out of Wendall earlier..Wendall was certainly out and about those first few days..remember the collapsing (acting) on the sidewalk routine?  I wonder how many people were there..who they were..so far everyone seems to be related or semi related in this story....and in such a small town you would think other's might have noticed the porch social Wendall was holding, who was there, when they arrived, when they left.  In a small town it is hard to keep secrets..

For future reference some of us without Facebook can't get in to read Dan's page..if someone could post the reference to Wendall and that party it would help the rest of us..TYIA

GypsyDD, it wasn't Dan Cass who said it, it was Louisia in this article -

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_1014mom_recalls_tragic_night_celinas_parent_disputes_husbands_story/srvc=home&position=4

Thanks..I did read that article..I was just wondering from the posts here what Dan had to say about it..thank you very much for your reply.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 20, 2011, 07:29:56 PM
I don't have a FB page.

Unless he has changed it recently, Dan Cass' FB wall and info was available for anyone to see/read, whether one has a FB account or not.

That's why I always checked it. . . .anyone looking up his name could see/read it!

I'm at school (lunch) right now, and of course they've blocked FB from the computers~middle schoolers!   ::MonkeyEek::

Can't link to the account right now, BUT I've posted the links to Dan's FB account several times, in case anyone is interested.  He has very definite opinions !   ::MonkeyCool::

Thank you TCUMOM..I just thought I couldn't get in since I don't have an account..I'll follow your links.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 20, 2011, 07:34:49 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/KevinMullaney.jpg)

I swear those tow young people really look alike to me.

It is hard to believe that they are not related..their eyes are the same..the face shape..the expression..I still wonder if Kevin is her child or that of a female relative..it is just uncanny their similiar features.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 20, 2011, 07:40:11 PM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/KevinMullaney.jpg)

I swear those tow young people really look alike to me.

It is hard to believe that they are not related..their eyes are the same..the face shape..the expression..I still wonder if Kevin is her child or that of a female relative..it is just uncanny their similiar features.

ITA  They really do look alike! 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 20, 2011, 07:42:54 PM
Someone help me out ~ still at school so can't nose around on the internet.

I have thought for *months* that Kevin and sweet Celina are related . . . how old is Louisia....I can't remember. . . .how old is Kevin?

Not that it matters, I guess . . . but, I'll just put it out there................could he be Louisia's son?   Oh, dear.  That makes matters even more  ::MonkeyNoNo:: .


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Pattianne on October 21, 2011, 12:05:25 AM
Someone help me out ~ still at school so can't nose around on the internet.

I have thought for *months* that Kevin and sweet Celina are related . . . how old is Louisia....I can't remember. . . .how old is Kevin?

Not that it matters, I guess . . . but, I'll just put it out there................could he be Louisia's son?   Oh, dear.  That makes matters even more  ::MonkeyNoNo:: .

This article says he is the son of a former boyfriend of Louisia. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/03/celina-cass-autopsy-cant-find-cause_n_916920.html

Personally I think and have thought from the beginning that Louisia is his mother even though I'm just speculating.  I think both Celina and Kevin look like Louisia and I think Kayla looks more like Adam Laro.  Now Louisia, the former boyfriend, Kayla and Kevin all live together. 


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 21, 2011, 07:49:43 AM
Someone help me out ~ still at school so can't nose around on the internet.

I have thought for *months* that Kevin and sweet Celina are related . . . how old is Louisia....I can't remember. . . .how old is Kevin?

Not that it matters, I guess . . . but, I'll just put it out there................could he be Louisia's son?   Oh, dear.  That makes matters even more  ::MonkeyNoNo:: .

This article says he is the son of a former boyfriend of Louisia. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/03/celina-cass-autopsy-cant-find-cause_n_916920.html

Personally I think and have thought from the beginning that Louisia is his mother even though I'm just speculating.  I think both Celina and Kevin look like Louisia and I think Kayla looks more like Adam Laro.  Now Louisia, the former boyfriend, Kayla and Kevin all live together. 
Thanks for your thoughts. 
Yep ~ I remember reading those little blurbs about Kevin being the *son of a former boyfriend.* 
I have always thought as you do . . . Louisia is his Mom ~ my opinion only (and yours!) .   ha.
Agree about Kayla, too.

And, now I read in one of the above links, I think it was to wmur, that Kevin's father, Mark, lives with them now, also ~  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::

Good grief .  What a tangled web .


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: tcumom on October 21, 2011, 07:52:50 AM
Oh, was reading too quickly.  I just noticed where you had written *the former boyfriend* living there, too.    ::MonkeyConfused::

Hopefully, we'll hear some news in the next few days.  I'll go see what Dan C. has to say, if anything.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 21, 2011, 08:17:31 AM

 ::snipping2::
Mullaney said Celina's mother, Louisia Cass, is like a mother to him and raised him for a few years after his own mother died from cancer. Mullaney said Celina was like a sister to him.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/29533218/detail.html#ixzz1bPxGHu79

Interesting..from this article I take it that Louisia is not his Mom..but he sure looks like her and Celina...I wonder if his bio Mom was a relative of Louisia's..cousin maybe...IDK.





Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 21, 2011, 08:24:07 AM
Have we ever seen a picture of Kevin's father/  Maybe Kevin and Celina look like him..and maybe Celina and Kevin share a bio dad..somethings up..because these two really look too much alike to not be related on one or the other side of the family.


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 21, 2011, 08:42:46 AM
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/10/19/3989868/house-guest-says-he-didnt-see.html
House guest says he didn't see missing NH girl
October 19, 2011

WEST STEWARTSTOWN, N.H -- A guest in the house of an 11-year-old New Hampshire girl whose body was pulled from the Connecticut River in West Stewartstown in August says he didn't see Celina Cass the night she was reported missing.

Kevin Mullaney, who had moved in with the family, said the door to the duplex was open when he returned home around midnight, and that he watched TV and then went to bed around 1 a.m.

The 23-year-old Mullaney told WMUR-TV ( http://bit.ly/q4bbPM (http://bit.ly/q4bbPM)) that he left for work at 6:15 a.m. and that none of the vehicles in the driveway appeared to have moved overnight.
 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 21, 2011, 08:50:55 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/modlock4.gif)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 21, 2011, 09:05:43 AM
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20110726/NEWS07/110729914/0/opinionStewartstown
(http://www.unionleader.com/storyimage/UL/20110726/NEWS07/110729914/AR/AR-110729914.jpg&q=100&maxw=350)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011
Post by: MuffyBee on October 21, 2011, 09:06:37 AM
http://www.wmur.com/newsarchive/28679347/detail.html


(http://www.wmur.com/2011/0728/28691238_180X240.jpg)
NH State Police


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011 - 10/21/11
Post by: MuffyBee on October 21, 2011, 09:09:09 AM
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/4donks/cel.jpg)
4donks


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011 - 10/21/11
Post by: MuffyBee on October 21, 2011, 09:11:17 AM
http://www.wmur.com/newsarchive/28679347/detail.html



(http://www.wmur.com/2011/0727/28684916_180X240.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011 - 10/21/11
Post by: MuffyBee on October 21, 2011, 09:12:11 AM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/CelinaCassDay-.jpg)


Title: Re: Celina Cass #2 8/3/2011 - 10/21/11
Post by: MuffyBee on October 21, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5093/5435599482_8cf4eaf2dc_o.gif)

Please move to Celina Cass #3

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11932.0