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Title: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 09:32:35 PM
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/breaking/Maryland-Woman-Missing-in-Aruba-127279518.html

Maryland Woman Missing in Aruba

By Matthew Stabley |  Monday, Aug 8, 2011  |  Updated 8:14 PM EDTView Comments (2) | Leave A Comment | Email | Print


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Robyn Gardner

A woman from Maryland disappeared in Aruba last week.

Robyn Gardner, of Frederick, was last seen Aug. 2 at the Renaissance Aruba Resort and Casino in Oranjestad, according to the Natalee Holloway Resource Center.

The 35-year-old reportedly disappeared on a snorkeling trip at Nanki in the Colony. The Aruba Herald reported a suspect was arrested Friday.

Gardner stands 5-foot-5-inches tall and weighs 120 pounds. She has blond hair, brown eyes, and tattoos on her rib cage, right bicep and left arm from the back of her shoulder to her elbow.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 09:40:03 PM
I've just noticed posts by friends, and a boyfriend of 2 1/2 years here. 

http://www.facebook.com/ArubaFans?sk=wall

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
So frustrating, I've been following the articles in the Aruba press for a few days now.  Not an easy thing to do, there's not a good translator for the 24ora articles that are almost always in Papiamento.

They never spelled her name right, never saw a picture of her in any of the Aruban press articles.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

But the speculation has been rampant! 

I hope she's found and safe. 

Why did it take almost a week to hit the MSM?     ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wonder if the Aruban authorities have looked anywhere other than Baby Beach for her?



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:03:21 PM
I'm bringing over some posts from the Natalee Holloway thread.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35146-investigacion-grandi-tumando-lugar-relaciona-cu-dama-mericano-perdi.html

Papiamentu translation:

investigacion big tumando lugar relaciona cu lady mericano perdi

sunday, 07 august 2011 22:05

autoridad of aruba is haciendo one investigacion much big the momentonan here. this is relaciona cu the caso of the lady mericano robyn gardner cu owing to go snorkel y seems till today is perdi. diadomingo in oranan late of nightfall autoridad local was at same sitio cu the pareha apparently owing to go snorkel.

can owing to see top funcionarionan of recherché, of ministerio publico y also the sospechoso self was tey. cu usage of camara can owing to filma various scenario y was measure cierto part. pesey self the cuerpo tecnico was tey also. can owing to see also some acolyte of one team special of police cu was have cierto envolvimento cu the caso of nathallee holloway also eynan. the sospechoso gary giordano also owing to wordo take away ten owing to the lugar of the sucedido. the was canto of lama hour cu the team of recherché completo was haciendo investigacion. he self owing to arise suspicion mirando his trankilidad. berdad the muhr is more bien one girlfriend or frei cu the know leave cune at merca. is a cu past owing to conoce via internet y so they owing to come across another. the lady recien owing to lose trabao at merca y after of one biahe cu some girlfriend owing to go back merca. past owing to tell he cu the have earn of trip y leave one rato more distrae his self. esey owing to place cu they owing to arrive aruba the weekend happen. they owing to go once end at san nicolas y owing to see the lugar. the day ey they not owing to descend at lama because they not was dress in cloths apropia for descend in lama. the day next they owing to go back y till even owing to cumpra cos of drink in the area. of eynan owing to go snorkel y owing to arrive in one profundidad caminda the leg not was arrive ground more. past owing to forza arrive ground y owing to see his girlfriend look at if the also is come. hour cu past owing to arrive ground according gary, the not owing to see the lady more. so past owing to beat alarma. mirando cu the sospechoso owing to wordo conseha for not talk more will haci kizas the caso more dificil. the conseho here is his own advocate owing to dune mirando cu past owing to give one declaracion complete end.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug07.nanki.IMG_5658.jpg)

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There are more pictures at the link.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:05:01 PM
Looks like her name was spelled right in that one, but in the first articles it was spelled Garbner.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:06:58 PM
http://24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35147-abogado-di-e-mericano-deteni-ta-hopi-disgusta-cu-actuacion-di-autoridad-di-aruba-.html

Papiamentu translation:

advocate of the mericano deteni is much disgusta cu actuacion of autoridad of aruba

sunday, 07 august 2011 22:13

the mericano gary giordano is deteni. this owing to sosode diabierna at aeropuerto of aruba hour cu the was saliendo bek for merca. the form cu the proceso of detencion owing to go owing to let the advocate y also the sospechoso one some disgusta. this kizas is the procedura but do not the form cu have to actua contra a cu owing to ofrece all type of coperacion at autoridad.

pesey self hour cu the detencion did take lugar the sospechoso owing to calling the advocate bayendo keep. the instruccion cu past owing to achieve of his advocate was for mantene silencio. this after cu the morning ey self the mericano owing to give one declaracion amplio at recherché cu is investigando the caso. one lady recherché y also one boss of recherché owing to interoga the mericano first cu his detencion. the same morning trempan diabierna the mericano owing to reuni cu consul mericano y also mother of the victima. according can owing to compronde the consul mericano self owing to tell gary if the not have nothing more of haci the can go bek merca.

same past owing to ofrece the mother of the lady perdi if the have to stay aruba for dune sosten. the mother owing to bise do not necesario y the self will follow cu the caso of his child. the morning ey self gary owing to go close recherché. they owing to go till even at the lugar at nanki where the lady owing to wordo see ultimo trip. the investigacion owing to continua diabierna where gary owing to give the declaracion completo. one overall of nine pagina of declaracion cu all type of question. all owing to wordo contesta. gary is one man divorcia cu have one type of uitzend ass. the have two child of 14 y 19 year. the children live close they mother y gary is cria the children cu one suma of some hundred dollar for month. the form cu past owing to conoce the lady mericano is via internet on one date site. so they know come across two trip for month. the know go close the daman owing to his cas also.

the lady seems live cu one girlfriend but always hour of leave, gary is leave his only cu the lady. the lady self have various tatuahe (tatoos) at his curpa. at various part of his curpa. all esakinan is declaracionnan cu recherché owing to achieve for of gary first cu past owing to stay deteni at aeropuerto. past owing to company the declaracion also. owing to puntre till even on the seguro cu past owing to close first cu past owing to trip. berdad past owing to close one seguro cu was count ; pe y for her lady. this is more bien one seguro of biahe cual majority passenger is close. this do not one seguro of life. besides past owing to place his mother because; beneficiario if algo have to sosode. at end of the declaracion gary cu was together cu his advocate owing to tell polisnan cu the will trip. owing to count ; autoridad cu past owing to come across cu mother of the lady perdi y consul mericano. past owing to ofrece fast of his advocate if they wanted or they have to of dje the will stay some day more. the not owing to achieve contesta y pesey owing to dicidi of go aeropuerto for lever plane diabierna afternoon. for surprise past owing to stay deteni. this owing to cay in very bad ground close the advocate y gary cu all the time owing to become sospechoso. the advocate michael lopez is defende the sospechoso in the caso here. the advocate owing to bise for not declara nothing more. mantene silencio because the was enough open in his declaracion of nine pagina diabierna morning. monday kizas the sospechoso have to go fast of fiscal.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:09:24 PM
http://boletinextra.com/index.php/polis/69-policial/10010-recherchenan-ta-detene-homber-sospecha-den-desaparicion-di-su-senora

Papiamentu translation:

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recherchenan is detene man sospecha in desaparicion of his madam

friday, 05 august 2011 15:50 5 comments

autoridadnan trahando duro on the caso of the lady cu is perdi in lama cu not owing to encontra neither his paradero for of tuesday ultimo now owing to strike one buelta enough big. autoridadnan attentive owing to ricibi one tips cu he g.v.g. 50 year of merca where cu the is envolvi cu his madam robyn lynn garbner naci at merca 23 april 1976 owing to disparece in lama behind nanki at san nicolas together cu autoridadnan maritimo, helicopter, kust wacht, search & rescue of tuesday nightfall till night late y diaranzon morning till nightfall late was cu one buskeda masal now the storia owing to strike one buelta cu diabierna afternoon he g.v.g was cla for bay merca bek without worry cu his madam cu is perdi or is cla for bay cobra his seguro for achieve battalion of coin??? now autoridadnan tine deteni for one interogacion big y is one sospechoso of have algo of haber cu the desaparicion of his madam.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:11:33 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35083-polis-a-detene-mericano-cu-tabata-snorkel-cu-muher-cu-awe-ta-perdi.html

Papiamentu translation:

police owing to detene mericano cu was snorkel cu muher cu today is perdi (missing)

friday, 05 august 2011 18:20

he mericano cu tuesday owing to go snorkel supuestamente cu the muher mericano owing to stay deteni. past owing to wordo grab at aeropuerto just hour cu the was bandonando aruba. for of first instant was feel cu the actuacion of he was uno much odd. tuesday night his trankilidad was give indicacion cu algo not was cuadra. till even slachtofferhulp owing to go at nanki for talk cune. the day next they self owing to go buske trempan at marriott caminda the was kedando y go cune bek at the sitio. recherchenan was have one investigacion on the caso here. they not owing to stop keto. he owing to busca his advocate at aruba at once also. apparently the is work in regal estate at merca. past owing to come aruba cu the muher. the muher have 35 year y he have 50 year of edad. by tuesday night owing to mobilize helicopter, boat y plane of kustwacht, police y sarfa. was have enough person cu owing to busca without succeed achieve nothing. the splicacion of he also was odd. past owing to believe cu the can owing to happen autoridad of aruba one fastball. the first night end the was cla for present cu his advocate. this is place person doubt more in his seriedad. more still mirando cu the not was show a cu owing to lose one girlfriend or casa. all cos is show cu have one seguro big recien close on cabez of the two personanan here at merca. have several cos cu can see in the caso here. divernan owing to busca y they not owing to come across cu none equipment of snorkel. the lama was plat plat. kizas coriente can go cu the curpa but the snorkel or the duikbril assure have to can owing to come across cune. although past owing to slip go of the curpa, in cierto form have to can owing to come across cu cualkier evidencia. ministerio publico owing to confirma the detencion. if achieve the curpa of the lady perdi only can scapa he here cu wanted slip go merca diabierna but 2or owing to stay deteni at aeropuerto of aruba.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:13:36 PM
http://www.diario.aw/2011/08/turista-keto-bay-desapareci-den-laman/

Papiamentu translation:

tourist keto bay desapareci in sea

publication: friday, 5 august 2011.

categoria: general

oranjestad (aan): autoridad is buscando the muher mericano, that by cu his casa owing to reporta cu past owing to desparece during they're snorkel at baby beach. as is conoci all the dianan buskeda is worde haci for busca curpa of the muher mericano at robyn lynn garbner, naci day 23 of april 1976. according his casa, they owing to bay snorkel abroad of cay y according informe just the day ey, servicio meteorologico owing to indica cu sea was keto y coriente suave. he owing to arrive ground apparently without his casa y after of enough rato past owing to beat alarma. do not conoci con far of costa they owing to bay snorkel apparently they owing to haci usage of duik spectacles. the pareha according informe owing to arrive aruba y they owing to hospeda at marriott hotel. one are of buzo owing to bay in sea y owing to stay for enough oranan largo buscando without cu they can localiza the curpa of the muher robyn. all the time famianan at merca owing to worde notifica of the tristo news y apparently have owing to arrive aruba end for know kico exact owing to socede. much is ask about his self con one pareha is bay snorkel y owing to aleha for of another cu at dado instant they will is lose another for of view. he is come ground y keep till hour the muher leave y till day of today the muher not owing to worde localiza. autoridad owing to bay hotel buscando in direccion if here will can is deal of one crimen. if is corecto, hotel will have to have camera on the floor at where the pareha is hospeda y con they will is anda cu another during they estadia in the hotel encuestion. camber assure also owing to worde revisa for less all doubt. do not exclui cu already end autoridad locual by they contacto at merca buscando more informe if acaso they will can have one record or not. via of family, amigonan will can achieve cierto informenan if acaso have cierto problem in cual the pareha owing to happen or is pasando in dje. the investigacion have to worde haci amplio because in pasado owing to arrive take lugar casonan similar at where man owing to desaparece y esnan cu owing to stay behind owing to cobra enough coin of aseguro y hour cu owing to investiga the caso more deep owing to resulta cu crimen owing to worde comete. seems at first instancia end he cu is take away the muher of more or less 15 year of diferencia was actua some odd y locual is worde menciona asunto of advocate or will bay busca advocate cual owing to wing atencion also. do not conoci if here will is deal of the same bishitante cu apparently cada day will is change color of his cabey hospeda at one high rise hotel. the caso relaciona cu the muher perdi have debido atencion of autoridad local y have investigacionnan deep at the momentonan here is worde haci for evita as owing to worde tell in pasado “geen lijk geen zaak”.

“geen lijk geen zaak” translated = "no body no matter"

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:20:36 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/80445-onderzoek-verdwenen-toerist-gaat-door

Google translation:

Research missing tourist continues       

MONDAY, AUGUST 8, 2011 2:15 P.M.

ORANGE CITY - Authorities have Sunday again studied the disappearance of American tourist Robyn Lynn Garbner at Baby Beach.

Employees of the investigation, the Public Prosecutor (OM) and the suspect GVG (50) went to the spot where G. said the victim lost his sight while snorkeling. Reportedly, the researchers in that location scenarios filmed. The 35-year-old disappeared last week after Garbner a snorkeling trip with her 50-year-old companion GG He told her that he had lost, but attracted the attention of the police through his seemingly calm attitude. Further research by the investigators increased the suspicion that the police already had and eventually the man was arrested Friday afternoon at the airport when he tried to leave our country. According to sources, victim and suspect know each other and the Internet have come together to Aruba.
 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:26:04 PM
35 year old female American tourist missing in Aruba, last seen snorkeling at Baby Beach with a 50 year old male American tourist.  She was reported missing yesterday around 6pm.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/34991-buskeda-pa-dama-perdi-a-sigui-trempan-diaranzon-mainta.html

Papiamentu translation:

buskeda for lady perdi owing to follow trempan diaranzon morning

wednesday, 03 august 2011 08:23

the buskeda owing to cuminsa trempan diaranzon morning for her lady cu is perdi. here is deal of the lady cu owing to go cu one man for snorkel just behind nanki in colony. diaranzon morning the equipment of recherche of san nicolas y also sarfa owing to present canto of water for busca y acumula more informacion possible.

he cu was together cu the lady also owing to arrive cu the trahadornan social cu is atende y sostene victimanan in casonan so. on lama trempan can owing to see also embarcacionnan of sarfa, kustwacht y helicopter of police. one buskeda intensivo owing to cuminsa in all the area. not owing to achieve algo trempan of morning. police also owing to send one comunicado on the caso. this is the version policial.relaciona cu the caso of the senjora perdi for of ayeratardi at height of baby beach,

my can informa you will siguiente:diamars come across, for more or less 18:21, centro of alarma is meld at central of police cu they owing to achieve one call cu will have a perdi, probably one tourist, female, at height of baby beach. patrol of san nicolas is acudi at once at the sitio y is come come across cu he g.v.g. naci at merca of 50 anja, kedando because; huesped at marriot hotel. the is tell police cu past owing to go snorkel cu the lady robyn lynn garbner, naci at merca also 23 april 1976. according his declaracion they owing to leave abroad of rif at the lugar menciona y after of one rato they will owing to lose another. hour cu he owing to arrive ground past owing to keep one rato y past owing to ripara cu the lady menciona not owing to arrive ground bek. owing to dicidi of beat alarma. at once one buskeda owing to cuminsa, tanto on ground because; on lama cu owing to envolvimento of kustwacht, police maritimo, helicopter. slachtofferhulp also owing to present at the sitio for asisti the tourist g.v.c.pa more or less 10or y 30 of night owing to dicidi of stop cu the buskeda for organisa y follow diaranzon. according police the condiccionnan maritimo was good till cu night, facilitando the buskeda considerablemente, compara cu the condicionnan normal in the area.

for more or less 7'or morning the dienstnan menciona together cu sarfa owing to cuminsa of new cu the buskeda for her person perdi. recherche also owing to being envolvi for investiga the detayenan of the caso. till at the momentonan here not have evidencia of one crimen but more bien is tratando the caso because; one person perdi on lama, while cu is investiga all detaye if.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:29:38 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/34991-buskeda-pa-dama-perdi-a-sigui-trempan-diaranzon-mainta.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug03.buskeda.Image_022.JPG)

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:31:13 PM
From last night...

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=8123&offId=0&offDate=2011-8

Papiamentu translation:

24 hora happen | fecha: 02/08/2011 | horario: 19:07

lady tourist perdi at baby beach, ela bay dive bao influencia of alcohol

one pareha mericano cu owing to bay duik in area of rodgers beach, owing to confronta problem in water y hour of come ground bek the cabayero owing to achieve miss of his partner. the lady cu can is in the edad of 30 for 40 year, owing to disparce for of view of his pareha. at once owing to beat alarma, caminda search & rescue, kustwacht y helicopter owing to bay in one buskeda extenso for achieve the lady mericano. till at the momentonan here the victima is perdi still.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:33:02 PM
::MonkeyShocked::

I have to admit that if the guy in the shorts is the husband, by his expressions he doesn't look too concerned...but the insurance scam comes up with every disappearance in Aruba.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/34973-pareha-turista-a-bai-dive-y-e-dama-no-a-bolbe.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug02.perdi.P8020145.JPG)

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug02.perdi.P8020149.JPG)

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug02.perdi.P8020148.JPG)

Papiamentu translation:

 ::snipping2::

Comments:

come across...

scirbi for ojo!, august 02, 2011

he cu the short colorido is the tourist come across? wel the do not show niun bit preocupa more bien the is show gewoon cansa come across,e cos here is smell "insurance" y the islands caribense owing to bira" the perfect spot" for much of they for they "pull it off". +35 come across...

scirbi for dog, august 02, 2011

i is haja cu have to cuminsa place blackboard for adverti every tourist cu is dangerous for go snorkel abroad of baby beach, by anja happen now owing to stop become cu is every rato have tourist is hoga at baby beach. +33 come across...

scirbi for student86, august 03, 2011

i am ful eens cu "ojo!".. esey my tmb owing to think +1 come across...

scirbi for chito rasmijn, august 03, 2011

if we look at the pareha here y they as actua could you ak cla cla here is coin siguro is in game come across,paso he tawata calm come across,asta smile,y the do not one guy or casa or one person cu have to owing to lever terra after she come across,paso is you have to sigura come across,prome cu do you casa is good come across,aki the cos here is smell good stinki self self come across.ami personal do not guli the pill here +1 come across...

scirbi for chito rasmijn, august 03, 2011

the lugar of more beautiful for swim y more beautiful for is save but plega come across,y insigur for one y all cu will wanted go one some come across,mas the part cu is jega lama big come across,e part ey have the name terror beach come across,no is today or yesterday but for anja the is come life person y nigun can splica con can owing to hoga eynan come across???????????? question without contesta come across,e lugar have to come cu mark in one balisa flotante is show cu till here could you jega for float come across,y one person look at y controla the sound y esnan cu happen the sound sabiendo is indica cu not can go more aleu for float y have one multa 25 for 100fls for pay is nothing compara lose one being cu do you love +0 come across...

scirbi for dora, august 03, 2011

again have boshi person is asumi cos without busca right (facts)...ken you is for judge con he have to reacciona?..boso all owing to achieve degree of psychology?..esta anything.. echt aruban afresh..stop child..bai busca coi haci.. +0 come across...

scirbi for zorro biew, august 03, 2011

i am of acuerdo cu dog. gobierno have to obliga the companianan cu is rent equiponan for dive for is responsible for they clientenan hour algo happen cu they. also they have to have person prepara in cpr y one boat for leave busca esnan in problem. not can is so cu is the coin only they're interesa in dje y to hell with the rest. aruba is enough mancha end in exterior pafia of the negligencianan here. as see gobierno, cuminsa actua. is enough! +0 come across...

scirbi for mast two, august 03, 2011

for dog do you have razon if do you loves are you even cry come across.aki near they're believe we is stupid.ami have one cacho of much anja self the die i am cry corda person.e guy the not ti curazon come across


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:34:23 PM
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83576 (http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83576)

Kododo    
 Post subject: Tragic news.....
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:39 pm


Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2002 12:59 am
Posts: 211    

24ora.com late news::
.....A tourist-couple,( in their 30tees) went snorkelling behind Nanki-Club at Baby Beach, toward dusk on Tuesday. The man struggled against strong current and got to shore, but the lady is missing.
Search will continue on Wednesday....
...article/pix at http://www.24ora.com Tuesday's edition...
Let's hope for the best, wherein she is found alive.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu- ... bolbe.html


Eddy    
 Post subject: Re: Tragic news.....
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:55 am
Extra Helpful Expert


Joined: Fri Nov 29, 2002 5:47 am
Posts: 3395
   
The sea is quiet, but the current is strong. The male tourist swam to sure, but could not see his wife anymore. It is reported that the man was under the influence of alcohol as well. The research lasted well into the night with helicopter patrolling the sea in the area. The search will continue today at 6:00am. The authority is not classifying it as a case of drowning as of yet.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:37:27 PM
A comment about the dangerous current in the area...and why there are no warning signs...

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/34991-buskeda-pa-dama-perdi-a-sigui-trempan-diaranzon-mainta.html

Papiamentu translation:

 ::snipping2::

scirbi for buchicunucu, august 03, 2011

do not first trip cu person is hoga (of perde) akinan. everybody at aruba know cu have one coriente dangerous in the area here, why do not place blackboard (na cantidad!) cu is dangerous for swim einan y also one blackboard numerico for show cuanto person owing to lose they life end einan? what is more important now here? in my concepto the have to is prevencion owing to base of informacion. come across.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:53:15 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/34991-buskeda-pa-dama-perdi-a-sigui-trempan-diaranzon-mainta.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug03.buskeda.Image_022.JPG)

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug03.buskeda.Image_002.JPG)

In the first picture... (L to R...Sevinger, Visser, Dowers, de Meza)

Arthur Dowers - Minister of Justice

Richard Visser - Minister of Health and Sport

Mike de Meza - Minister of Economic Affairs

Benny Sevinger - Minister of Infrastructure, Environment and Integration





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 10:57:25 PM
grace-land,

If you made any posts about this over in Natalee's thread please copy them over here.  I just went through my posts from my profile to fine the ones I'd posted, so I'm sure I may have missed others.

TIA   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 08, 2011, 11:14:59 PM
The information is the same as in a previous article, but this article has 3 pictures of her.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/maryland/frederick-woman-robyn-gardner-reported-missing-in-aruba-080811

Frederick Woman, Robyn Gardner, Reported Missing in Aruba
Updated: Monday, 08 Aug 2011, 8:55 PM EDT
Published : Monday, 08 Aug 2011, 8:34 PM EDT

Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/maryland/frederick-woman-robyn-gardner-reported-missing-in-aruba-080811#ixzz1UUuagKl3


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 08, 2011, 11:37:10 PM
grace-land,

If you made any posts about this over in Natalee's thread please copy them over here.  I just went through my posts from my profile to fine the ones I'd posted, so I'm sure I may have missed others.

TIA   ::MonkeyCool::

Texasmom, I just made one post--p. 30 reply #581.  I don't know how to copy it over here.  :oops:


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 11:39:32 PM
No worries grace-land, I'll get it.  Thanks for helping me find it!

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 11:42:03 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

Help Find Robyn Colson - Missing in Aruba

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Help Find Robyn Colson - Missing in Aruba

Update: Detective DeJong of the Aruban Police said that there have been "new developments" but she could not elaborate on them now. Also, the Aruba police and government have help from Dutch authorities and they plan to to ask the FBI for help on Tuesday.
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 ::snipping2::

Why did they wait a week?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 11:44:04 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35083-polis-a-detene-mericano-cu-tabata-snorkel-cu-muher-cu-awe-ta-perdi.html

Papiamentu translation:

police owing to detene mericano cu was snorkel cu muher cu today is perdi (missing)

friday, 05 august 2011 18:20

he mericano cu tuesday owing to go snorkel supuestamente cu the muher mericano owing to stay deteni. past owing to wordo grab at aeropuerto just hour cu the was bandonando aruba. for of first instant was feel cu the actuacion of he was uno much odd. tuesday night his trankilidad was give indicacion cu algo not was cuadra. till even slachtofferhulp owing to go at nanki for talk cune. the day next they self owing to go buske trempan at marriott caminda the was kedando y go cune bek at the sitio. recherchenan was have one investigacion on the caso here. they not owing to stop keto. he owing to busca his advocate at aruba at once also. apparently the is work in regal estate at merca. past owing to come aruba cu the muher. the muher have 35 year y he have 50 year of edad. by tuesday night owing to mobilize helicopter, boat y plane of kustwacht, police y sarfa. was have enough person cu owing to busca without succeed achieve nothing. the splicacion of he also was odd. past owing to believe cu the can owing to happen autoridad of aruba one fastball. the first night end the was cla for present cu his advocate. this is place person doubt more in his seriedad. more still mirando cu the not was show a cu owing to lose one girlfriend or casa. all cos is show cu have one seguro big recien close on cabez of the two personanan here at merca. have several cos cu can see in the caso here. divernan owing to busca y they not owing to come across cu none equipment of snorkel. the lama was plat plat. kizas coriente can go cu the curpa but the snorkel or the duikbril assure have to can owing to come across cune. although past owing to slip go of the curpa, in cierto form have to can owing to come across cu cualkier evidencia. ministerio publico owing to confirma the detencion. if achieve the curpa of the lady perdi only can scapa he here cu wanted slip go merca diabierna but 2or owing to stay deteni at aeropuerto of aruba.

Texasmom, I found a post in English about Robyn Lynn Garber on the Aruba Bulletin Board--

http://www.aruba-travelguide.com/bulletinboard/viewtopic.php?t=10699&view=previous&sid=6f867022d0b6f424ddc7316d1720fdfa

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:10 am

A 35 YO American Robyn Lynn Garbner went snokeling near Baby Beach got separated from her partner. She did not surface and was not found after extensive search. According to her partner she snorkeled under the influence. But this is to be confirmed if it is the case because there was no body yet.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 08, 2011, 11:46:45 PM
No worries grace-land, I'll get it.  Thanks for helping me find it!

 ::MonkeyCool::

YW and thanks, texasmom!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 08, 2011, 11:50:25 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

Help Find Robyn Colson - Missing in Aruba

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Help Find Robyn Colson - Missing in Aruba

Update: Detective DeJong of the Aruban Police said that there have been "new developments" but she could not elaborate on them now. Also, the Aruba police and government have help from Dutch authorities and they plan to to ask the FBI for help on Tuesday.
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 ::snipping2::

Why did they wait a week?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Sooo...They plan to ask the FBI for help, ha!  Where were they for Natalee?  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 11:51:09 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=info

Help Find Robyn Colson - Missing in Aruba

Basic Information

Description   

Robyn Colson is missing in Aruba, and we need help finding her. If you have any information that could help please call the Aruba police or contact Andrew Colson (admin). Even if you can't help find her, please keep her in your prayers.

Description
Height: 5'3'' (160 cm)
Weight: 130 lb (59.1 kg)
Hair color: Blonde (dyed)
Eye color: Brown
Skin color: White
Markings: Tattoos on left shoulder and arm, and one tattoo on right side of rib cage
Last seen: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 at 6:00 pm

Please keep Robyn and her family in your thoughts and prayers.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 11:54:16 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

Help Find Robyn Colson - Missing in Aruba

Community

Help Find Robyn Colson - Missing in Aruba

Update: Detective DeJong of the Aruban Police said that there have been "new developments" but she could not elaborate on them now. Also, the Aruba police and government have help from Dutch authorities and they plan to to ask the FBI for help on Tuesday.
10 minutes ago · Share

 ::snipping2::

Why did they wait a week?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Sooo...They plan to ask the FBI for help, ha!  Where were they for Natalee?  ::MonkeyMad::


The Aruban authorities also said they worked with the FBI in Natalee's case, but from what Beth revealed later; I don't think they actually "allowed" them to do much of anything.  From my understanding they were only allowed to observe.

Infuriating!   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 08, 2011, 11:56:46 PM
IMO, it all depends on what they think really happened to her as to how much involvement the FBI will  have.  They have to be "invited" into the investigation iirc.

If it's anything that will look bad on Aruba...they will keep the FBI at arms length.

JMO


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 12:13:08 AM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=photos

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_ProfilePic-1.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_02.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_04.jpg)

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(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_07.jpg)

These show her tattoos

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_01.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_05.jpg)

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 12:16:37 AM
If they're (actually) going to call the FBI in, they don't think she's drowned.

I hope they're not just saying that to appease the family, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

I'm praying that they will find her.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 12:21:41 AM
IF she was abducted, the Aruban authorities have given the abductors a week's head start.

They should have called the FBI in Wednesday when they didn't find her.

She's a beautiful woman.

I wonder how long she'd been on the island when she disappeared?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 12:27:32 AM
No worries grace-land, I'll get it.  Thanks for helping me find it!

 ::MonkeyCool::

YW and thanks, texasmom!  ::MonkeyKiss::


You're welcome!   ::MonkeyKiss::

If you want to carry a post over to another thread in the future.  It's easy if the thread you're copying from is still open for posting.  Just click on "quote", copy all of the post that shows up in the posting box, and go to the thread you want to post it in, click "reply" and paste it there and then post it.  When you do it that way, there's a link at the top of the quote that will lead back to where you copied it from. 

It's a little more trouble if the thread you're copying from is closed, but you can still do it.  If you right click on the title above the post and click "copy link address" you can post the link and then copy the post as it is in the thread and put it in a quote box in the new thread with the link above it.

Hope that makes sense! 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 12:36:25 AM
http://www.arubaherald.com/local/731-lawyer-of-detained-american-annoyed-reacts-client-offered-to-remain-on-the-island-but-police-preferred-to-detain-him-at-airport.html

Lawyer of detained American annoyed, reacts: Client offered to remain on the island, but police preferred to detain him at airport         

Monday, 08 August 2011 14:45
   
The local lawyer of an American who was detained on Aruba has told his client to use his right to remain silent as the man has already given extensive declarations to the police.
Lawyer Michael Lopez expressed he was annoyed at authorities and said this was not the way to treat someone who has given all cooperation in the investigation.

An American man, Gary Giordano said he met the woman he gave up as disappeared after a snorkeling trip at Nanki, San Nicolas, on a dating website. They used to meet twice per month in the U.S.

The morning of his arrest, on Friday, Giordano met with the disappeared woman’s mother as well as the Consul of the U.S. for the Dutch Caribbean. The mother deemed it unnecessary for Giordano ta remain on the island, as did the Consul. He was also questioned that same morning again by investigators; he gave and signed a nine-page declaration and told investigators he was to travel, asked if he should stay longer on the island, but got no answer. The conversation with investigators took place in the presence of his lawyer.

 ::snipping2::

He declared that he and the woman had indeed bought insurance before they left the U.S., but this was just a regular travel insurance and the woman’s mother is the beneficiary on hers.

Giordano will probably be seen by a prosecutor on Monday.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 12:40:02 AM
http://www.arubaherald.com/local/742-boyfriend-of-disappeared-us-tourist-identifies-himself.html

Boyfriend of disappeared U.S. tourist identifies himself      

(http://www.arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_150_100_16777215_0___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug08_Robyn_Gardner_robyn_gardner_03.png)   

Monday, 08 August 2011 23:06
 
The news of the disappearance of Robyn Gardner on Aruba was published on arubaherald.com, after which a gentleman by the name of Richard Forester identified himself as her boyfriend. Gardner had come to Aruba with Gary Giordano, whom she had met on an online dating site. The two used to meet about twice per month.

Gardner had just returned to the U.S. from a trip with friends, wanted to travel again and Giordano booked their tickets to come to Aruba, where he used his Marriott points to pay for their accommodations. Giordano reported Gardner missing after a snorkeling trip, where they had gone into the ocean together, but he returned alone. A massive search was conducted by coastguard, police, Search and Rescue Aruba and other partners; nothing was found. Giordano was arrested on Friday, at the airport, when trying to leave the island. He was detained on suspicion of murder.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 12:46:36 AM
http://www.arubaherald.com/local/732-large-scale-investigation-taking-place-at-nanki-in-connection-with-disappearance.html

Large scale investigation taking place at Nanki in connection with disappearance   

(http://www.arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_480_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug08_nanki_IMG_5658.jpg)      


Monday, 08 August 2011 14:47
 
 
Aruban authorities are conducting a large scale investigation in connection with the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, an American tourist who disappeared on a snorkeling trip at Nanki in the Colony. On Sunday local authorities were at the site with the suspect, Gary Giordano, filming and measuring at certain spots.

According to sources, Giordano declared they had already gone to the site and decided to return to snorkel there the next day. They had swam out until they could not stand anymore and Giordano decided to swim back and it was when he arrived at the shore that he noticed that Gardner was not with him anymore and he called authorities.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 01:17:50 AM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=info

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_INFO-1.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 01:23:57 AM
http://www.facebook.com/robynlgardner



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 01:32:24 AM
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979852506

Missing Woman Disappeared in Aruba

August 08, 2011 08:45 PM EDT

2 people recommend this | comments: 3

A woman is missing from Aruba in a case that seems reminiscent of the Natalee Holloway disappearance. The Maryland woman was visiting Aruba and was last seen around August 2nd at a casino and resort. Could she have met the same fate as some of the other missing women who've vanished while traveling abroad?

(http://images.wjla.com/biopictures/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba_296.jpg)

Robyn Gardner, 35, shares a striking resemblance to the missing teen from Alabama, Natalee Holloway. She is blonde, attractive and looks a few years younger than her actual age. Before anyone takes offense to the comparisons made between this disappearance and that of the Holloway case, it's important to know that even her own family made the connection. The boyfriend of Robyn Gardner suspects something terrible has happened and personally contacted the Natalee Holloway Resource Center.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 09, 2011, 01:36:18 AM
With video--her boyfriend.  Sad.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-frederick-woman-missing-in-aruba-64854.html

Robyn Gardner, Bethesda woman missing in Aruba
August 8, 2011 - 07:20 pm

The 35-year-old vivacious woman hasn’t been heard form in six days. She was last seen Tuesday, Aug. 2, at the Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino in Oranjestad, Aruba.

Gardner, who lived and worked in Bethesda, left for Aruba on July 31st. Richard Forester says they had been dating for two and a half years, but quarreled before she left. He received his last e-mail from Gardner Tuesday, three hours before she was reported missing.

“The last message I got from her was ‘I love you,’” Forester said. “We will talk and sort things out when I get back,” Gardner wrote.

Forester thought Gardner went with a friend, but now believes she had a romantic relationship with her companion. The man notified Aruban authorities Gardner was missing. He said a current pulled her out to sea while snorkeling, according to an account in a local newspaper.

“I just don't think she was snorkeling. I think something has happened at this person's hand,” Forester alleges.

The intense search for Gardner bears some similarities to the 2005 disappearance of teenager Natalee Holloway. She never made it back to her plane to leave after a vacation on the island, and her body was never found.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 01:51:20 AM
Thanks grace-land!  Very interesting..   ::MonkeyEek::

Robyn Gardner was employed in a dental office until she lost her job two weeks ago.  The boyfriend said they "quarreled" before she left for Aruba on July 31st.  She'd sent a message to the boyfriend a few hours before she disappeared saying they'd talk and sort things out when she got back and she loved him.  Sound to me like the boyfriend thinks that Gary Giardono may have killed her...the commentator said that the boyfriend originally believed she'd gone to Aruba with a friend, but now believes he was a "romantic rival"...lengthy rap sheet including domestic violence...doesn't sound good.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 09, 2011, 01:55:44 AM
Thanks grace-land!  Very interesting..   ::MonkeyEek::

Robyn Gardner was employed in a dental office until she lost her job two weeks ago.  The boyfriend said they "quarreled" before she left for Aruba on July 31st.  She'd sent a message to the boyfriend a few hours before she disappeared saying they'd talk and sort things out when she got back and she loved him.  Sound to me like the boyfriend thinks that Gary Giardono may have killed her...the commentator said that the boyfriend originally believed she'd gone to Aruba with a friend, but now believes he was a "romantic rival"...lengthy rap sheet including domestic violence...doesn't sound good.



It was so sad when he said that she was probably calling out for him and he wasn't there (to help her).


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 02:08:33 AM
Thanks grace-land!  Very interesting..   ::MonkeyEek::

Robyn Gardner was employed in a dental office until she lost her job two weeks ago.  The boyfriend said they "quarreled" before she left for Aruba on July 31st.  She'd sent a message to the boyfriend a few hours before she disappeared saying they'd talk and sort things out when she got back and she loved him.  Sound to me like the boyfriend thinks that Gary Giardono may have killed her...the commentator said that the boyfriend originally believed she'd gone to Aruba with a friend, but now believes he was a "romantic rival"...lengthy rap sheet including domestic violence...doesn't sound good.



It was so sad when he said that she was probably calling out for him and he wasn't there (to help her).


Yes, it was very sad.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

It still just doesn't seem right to me.  Could Gary Giardono really be that lucky, to put her in the current just right so that she didn't come back to shore?  Wouldn't there be a sign of her by now if he killed her and put her in the water?

If he was really angry enough to kill her, I still think he could have done something worse like selling her.

JMO


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cadillac on August 09, 2011, 08:45:48 AM
I am not sure I understand all the facts surrounding this disappearance.  But one thought that popped into my mind...

The online lover was the one who booked the vacation to Aruba, correct?  If you wanted to make someone "disappear" and you wanted the Keystone Cops to be in charge of the investigation, where would you go to make this happen?

No where else in the world...but Aruba.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 09, 2011, 09:04:45 AM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35198-awor-e-boy-friend-di-robyn-gardner-cu-ta-perdi-na-aruba-a-meld-su-mes-.html (http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35198-awor-e-boy-friend-di-robyn-gardner-cu-ta-perdi-na-aruba-a-meld-su-mes-.html)

Awor e boyfriend di Robyn Gardner cu ta perdi na Aruba a meld su mes
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Monday, 08 August 2011 22:18

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Richard_forester

E homber Richard Forester ta un Mericano cu a identifca su mes como boyfriend di e muher Mericano cu ta perdi. E muher Robyn Gardner ta e persona cu a bai snorkel cu e homber Gary Giordano y nunca mas a bolbe. E homber Giordano mes ta deteni e momentonan aki. E ta wordo sospecha di homicidio. E tabata ultimo persona cu tabata cu e dama.

Aunke el a ofrece su mes pa keda Aruba pa coperacion tog nan a detene saliendo for di Aruba. Awor cu e noticia a sali riba ArubaHerald.com cu ta un website di noticia na ingles tin reaccionnan cu a drenta. E tal Richard Forester a indentifica su mes como frei di e dama Americano perdi. E homber deteni Gary Giordano tambe a bin cu e dama como su partner den e biahe. Dos biaha pa luna mas of menos nan dos sa topa. E muher a conoce e sospechoso riba un datesite di Merca. Asina nan a yega den contacto y tabata Sali leu leu. E dama prome cu su biahe pa Aruba recien a yega bek di un biahe cu su amiganan.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 09, 2011, 10:18:15 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/09/authorities-question-man-after-maryland-woman-disappears-in-aruba-535644744/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/09/authorities-question-man-after-maryland-woman-disappears-in-aruba-535644744/)

Authorities Question Man After Maryland Woman Disappears in Aruba

Published August 09, 2011 | FoxNews.com



A Maryland woman vacationing in Aruba has disappeared from the same resort town where Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway was last seen six years ago.

Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Md., disappeared Aug. 2 from the Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino in Oranjestad, MyFoxDC.com reports.

Gardner was visiting the island with a man named Gary Giordano, whom authorities have since detained for questioning, according to the station.

Giordano told investigators that Gardner never made it back to shore after the pair went snorkeling, and has allegedly changed his story several times, the station reports.

Gardner's boyfriend, Richard Forester, said he doesn't believe Giordano's account and pleaded for the public to help find her.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/09/authorities-question-man-after-maryland-woman-disappears-in-aruba-535644744/#ixzz1UXbxo5pm

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 09, 2011, 10:58:08 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/08/09/2011-08-09_maryland_beauty_vanishes_in_aruba_raises_ghost_of_unsolved_holloway_mystery.html?r=news/national
Maryland beauty, Robyn Gardner, vanishes in Aruba; raises ghost of unsolved Natalee Holloway mystery
By Michael Sheridan
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Tuesday, August 9th 2011, 10:28 AM


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/08/09/2011-08-09_maryland_beauty_vanishes_in_aruba_raises_ghost_of_unsolved_holloway_mystery.html#ixzz1UXm8BEzW


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 09, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/frederick-woman-missing-in-aruba/2011/08/09/gIQAUYzh4I_blog.html

Posted at 12:13 PM ET, 08/09/2011
Frederick woman missing in Aruba
By Dan Morse

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Robyn Gardner, 35, was last seen a week ago, Aug. 2, at the Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino in Oranjestad, Aruba, according to the Natalee Holloway Resource Center, an organization that grew out of the Holloway case, also in Aruba. On Friday, four days after Gardner was reported missing, authorities there detained another tourist at the airport, said Ann Angela, a spokesperson for the Aruba’s public prosecutor’s office.

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She called the American a “suspect” in the case, but stressed how that covers a wide range of possibilities – from untimely reporting of Gardner’s disappearance to something more serious. “It’s too soon for us to be more specific,” Angela said.

 ::snipping2::

Angela, the prosecutor’s office spokesman, said that on Sunday the suspect and Aruba police went to a beach where the man said Gardner was last seen. In recent days, a local judge ordered him held for an additional eight days while the probe continues, she said.

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Forester, who said he has dated Gardner for the last eight months, said he only learned she was in Aruba after she got there. He said he last heard from Gardner a week ago, via a Facebook message in which she told him she loved him.

Forester said that Aruban authorities told him they plan to send Gardner’s Blackberry to the Netherlands for examination. He also said they are looking for clues in her iPad.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 09, 2011, 01:40:27 PM
Fox(Megan Kelley) just reported Gary Giordano will be detained for several days.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 09, 2011, 01:43:50 PM
http://www.kget.com/news/local/story/17-Sunrise-Morning-Briefing/lp9D47LsCUeIrOJD0vKHZQ.cspx
17 Sunrise Morning Briefing  Published: 9:40 am
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Updated: 10:15 am


A Maryland woman went missing in Aruba.  Robyn Gardner, 35, was vacationing with 50-year-old Gary Giordano, an acquaintance from her hometown, when she disappeared.  Giordano says the two were snorkeling last week, and Gardner never made it back to shore.  Giordano has been detained by police for questioning.  Gardner's boyfriend, who is not Giordano, has contacted the Natalee Holloway resource center for help.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 09, 2011, 03:39:32 PM
Fox(Megan Kelley) just reported Gary Giordano will be detained for several days.  ::rhino::

Thanks, trimmonthelake!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 09, 2011, 03:49:48 PM
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2489190

Md. woman missing in Aruba
Tuesday - 8/9/2011, 2:04pm  ET

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"At this moment we prefer to stick to 'involvement in the disappearance' because the investigation has to show what exactly happened, where she is now, if she's dead, if she's alive," Angela says.

Giordano will go through a series of detention hearings in which a judge will decide whether there are still grounds for him to be held in Aruba, Angela says. The next detention hearing is expected to take place this weekend, and there is no bond or bail in Aruba.

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"The last message I got from her was 'I love you,'" Forester says.

Much earlier in the day, at 2 a.m., Gardner appears to have written on Forester's Facebook wall, saying "this sucks." (Ed. note: See screenshot in photo gallery)

Forester also says Gardner appeared to be signed on to her Gmail account days after she reportedly had drowned, and there was no response when he tried to send her an instant message. He says Aruban authorities have Gardner's BlackBerry and iPad and are trying to access information from them.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 07:14:19 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::

I hope this link will pull up the court record.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=10C09000673&loc=67&detailLoc=CC

It may not mean anything at all, but I think it's interesting in that it's still ongoing.

Concerning alimony and/or settlement of marital property.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 09, 2011, 07:37:06 PM
::MonkeyEek::

I hope this link will pull up the court record.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=10C09000673&loc=67&detailLoc=CC

It may not mean anything at all, but I think it's interesting in that it's still ongoing.

Concerning alimony and/or settlement of marital property.



Pulled up several.  The other day, when trying to find a match to the beach picture guy, Images kept bringing up a short Italian appearing Giordano.  There are a few in Maryland.  Have you found any reference that includes a picture?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 08:08:28 PM
::MonkeyEek::

I hope this link will pull up the court record.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=10C09000673&loc=67&detailLoc=CC

It may not mean anything at all, but I think it's interesting in that it's still ongoing.

Concerning alimony and/or settlement of marital property.



Pulled up several.  The other day, when trying to find a match to the beach picture guy, Images kept bringing up a short Italian appearing Giordano.  There are a few in Maryland.  Have you found any reference that includes a picture?

Did you have his full name?  Gary Vincent Giordano

I found some old thefts, and a domestic violence 2001 iirc.

DOB 5/1/1961

I haven't found anything with a picture...yet. 


The original link I posted was RE the Gardner vs Gardner divorce.  Maybe that's all normal, I've never been divorced...thank goodness.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 08:20:25 PM
From 2010

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=0601SP006552010&loc=23&detailLoc=DV

Pretty sure that one's him, I've seen the other name posting RE this case.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: ospainter on August 09, 2011, 08:33:37 PM
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/displayUpdate.htm?StoryID=124661

Police in Aruba detain man in connection with Frederick woman's disappearance
Originally published August 09, 2011, 9:41 AM - Updated 11:28 AM, August 09, 2011


By Brian Englar
News-Post Staff

   Police in Aruba detain man in connection with Frederick woman's disappearance
   
Robyn Gardner was reported missing last week in Aruba. A Facebook page has been launched to help find her.
   
   The Maryland man who reported Robyn Gardner of Frederick missing in Aruba last week was ordered Monday by a judge in that country to be held for at least eight more days in connection with her disappearance.

Gary Giordano, 50, was arrested Friday at the airport as he was preparing to leave the country, said prosecutor’s office spokeswoman Ann Angela. Angela said authorities suspect Giordano’s involvement in her disappearance.

Giordano told police that he and Gardner were snorkeling on the south side of the island. He said when he returned to shore, Gardner was not with him.

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Local paper where Robin lived.

OS


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: ospainter on August 09, 2011, 08:34:48 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: ospainter on August 09, 2011, 08:37:06 PM
http://ww2.gazette.net/gazette_archive/2003/200319/germantown/news/157064-1.html

Man arrested for shoplifting in Germantown
May 7, 2003
Ellen Shiau
Staff Writer




An Urbana man was arrested last week in connection with the theft of merchandise from the Target store in Germantown over the last three months, police said.

Gary Vincent Giordano, 42, of the 9700 block of Royal Crest Circle in Urbana, was arrested at his home Thursday and charged with three counts of theft over $500 and one count of theft by scheme over $500, police said.

Employees at the Target in the Milestone Shopping Center reported that an unidentified man entered the store March 4 and began placing items into a shopping cart -- including PlayStation2 game systems, DVD players, scanners and other electronic items, police said.

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OS


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cartfly on August 09, 2011, 08:40:50 PM
::MonkeyEek::

I hope this link will pull up the court record.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=10C09000673&loc=67&detailLoc=CC

It may not mean anything at all, but I think it's interesting in that it's still ongoing.

Concerning alimony and/or settlement of marital property.


Ex-wife of Giordano FB. It is private but check out the profile picture.....is that Giordano? It looks like the guy from the beach photos I saw on one of the sites.
 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1332032890 (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1332032890)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 08:48:06 PM
http://boletinextra.com/index.php/polis/69-policial/10010-recherchenan-ta-detene-homber-sospecha-den-desaparicion-di-su-senora

Papiamentu translation:

(http://boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/3f72dc50ada88fa607112f06b5e56ee9.JPG)

recherchenan is detene man sospecha in desaparicion of his madam

friday, 05 august 2011 15:50 5 comments

autoridadnan trahando duro on the caso of the lady cu is perdi in lama cu not owing to encontra neither his paradero for of tuesday ultimo now owing to strike one buelta enough big. autoridadnan attentive owing to ricibi one tips cu he g.v.g. 50 year of merca where cu the is envolvi cu his madam robyn lynn garbner naci at merca 23 april 1976 owing to disparece in lama behind nanki at san nicolas together cu autoridadnan maritimo, helicopter, kust wacht, search & rescue of tuesday nightfall till night late y diaranzon morning till nightfall late was cu one buskeda masal now the storia owing to strike one buelta cu diabierna afternoon he g.v.g was cla for bay merca bek without worry cu his madam cu is perdi or is cla for bay cobra his seguro for achieve battalion of coin??? now autoridadnan tine deteni for one interogacion big y is one sospechoso of have algo of haber cu the desaparicion of his madam.

bumped for cartfly (re picture)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 08:56:49 PM
2010 posts about Baby Beach here:

http://www.aruba.com/forum/f10/please-careful-snorkeling-45917/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cartfly on August 09, 2011, 09:06:27 PM
http://boletinextra.com/index.php/polis/69-policial/10010-recherchenan-ta-detene-homber-sospecha-den-desaparicion-di-su-senora

Papiamentu translation:

(http://boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/3f72dc50ada88fa607112f06b5e56ee9.JPG)

recherchenan is detene man sospecha in desaparicion of his madam

friday, 05 august 2011 15:50 5 comments

autoridadnan trahando duro on the caso of the lady cu is perdi in lama cu not owing to encontra neither his paradero for of tuesday ultimo now owing to strike one buelta enough big. autoridadnan attentive owing to ricibi one tips cu he g.v.g. 50 year of merca where cu the is envolvi cu his madam robyn lynn garbner naci at merca 23 april 1976 owing to disparece in lama behind nanki at san nicolas together cu autoridadnan maritimo, helicopter, kust wacht, search & rescue of tuesday nightfall till night late y diaranzon morning till nightfall late was cu one buskeda masal now the storia owing to strike one buelta cu diabierna afternoon he g.v.g was cla for bay merca bek without worry cu his madam cu is perdi or is cla for bay cobra his seguro for achieve battalion of coin??? now autoridadnan tine deteni for one interogacion big y is one sospechoso of have algo of haber cu the desaparicion of his madam.

bumped for cartfly (re picture)
Thanks Texas! That is Giordano???? Why would a girl like that be with a <gag ewww> man like that?..... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 09:07:27 PM
http://www.aruba-travelguide.com/bulletinboard/viewtopic.php?t=10639&sid=afc57b08e432e1ed14ae1677634a189e

lasagne
New Member


Joined: 01 Jun 2011
Posts: 6
Location: usa


Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:46 am    Post subject: Something I have not heard on boards....warning   
Hi folks:

Just returned from 9 glorious and perfect days in Aruba. One thing I want to share is something I have not heard and was not too aware of.

We spent the day with Madi the Arubian jeep tour operator. It was marvelous and she showed us the real Aruba. She has lived in Aruba all her life and I sat with her on the rocks at Natural Pool talking.

Anyway, she told me that more people (especially tourist ) die at Baby Beach more than any other beach in Aruba!

I was surprised by this. She told me that many Arubians wont go there. I asked her why so many drowings she said she did not know why but many times they find the dead with snorkel masks on!

PLEASE JUST BE AWARE AND CAREFUL

(more stories about drownings at Baby Beach at the link)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 09:10:02 PM
Great to see OS Painter posting...thanks OS!   ::MonkeyCool::

Great to see Mere as well.   :smt039


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 09:11:31 PM
http://boletinextra.com/index.php/polis/69-policial/10010-recherchenan-ta-detene-homber-sospecha-den-desaparicion-di-su-senora

Papiamentu translation:

(http://boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/3f72dc50ada88fa607112f06b5e56ee9.JPG)

recherchenan is detene man sospecha in desaparicion of his madam

friday, 05 august 2011 15:50 5 comments

autoridadnan trahando duro on the caso of the lady cu is perdi in lama cu not owing to encontra neither his paradero for of tuesday ultimo now owing to strike one buelta enough big. autoridadnan attentive owing to ricibi one tips cu he g.v.g. 50 year of merca where cu the is envolvi cu his madam robyn lynn garbner naci at merca 23 april 1976 owing to disparece in lama behind nanki at san nicolas together cu autoridadnan maritimo, helicopter, kust wacht, search & rescue of tuesday nightfall till night late y diaranzon morning till nightfall late was cu one buskeda masal now the storia owing to strike one buelta cu diabierna afternoon he g.v.g was cla for bay merca bek without worry cu his madam cu is perdi or is cla for bay cobra his seguro for achieve battalion of coin??? now autoridadnan tine deteni for one interogacion big y is one sospechoso of have algo of haber cu the desaparicion of his madam.

bumped for cartfly (re picture)
Thanks Texas! That is Giordano???? Why would a girl like that be with a <gag ewww> man like that?..... ::MonkeyCool::

Yes, that's him.  I had the same question.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 09:15:39 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20516828,00.html

Robyn Gardner Goes Missing in Aruba
BY SARA HAMMEL

Tuesday August 09, 2011 08:00 PM EDT

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2011/news/110822/natalee-holloway-320.jpg)
Natalee Holloway (left) and Robyn Gardner
AP

A Maryland woman has vanished in Aruba after taking a snorkeling trip with a friend, MyFoxDC reports.

The disappearance of Robyn Gardner, 35, last week comes six years after Alabama teen Natalee Holloway vanished from the same resort town.

Police are questioning the man Gardner was with on the island, Gary Giordano of Frederick, Md., who reportedly told investigators the pair took a snorkeling trip – and that Gardner never returned to shore.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 09:24:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

 ::snipping2::

Joe Lee

I interviewed Robyn for a job in Frederick the day before she said she was going to the beach for the weekend with a girlfriend. She also said she was not dating anyone. No reason for her to tell me any of this. So what's really going on?
38 minutes ago

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: San on August 09, 2011, 09:33:17 PM
US woman missing in Aruba and travel partner held

BEN FOX | August 9, 2011 09:15 PM EST |

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — A U.S. woman has disappeared while vacationing in Aruba, and authorities said Tuesday that police detained her travel partner because his statements about the incident had raised questions.

Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Maryland, vanished after snorkeling with her companion off the western tip of the Caribbean island Aug. 2, said Ann Angela, a spokeswoman for the prosecutor's office. She said police immediately launched an extensive search of the water and shore but turned up nothing and Gardner is still listed as missing.

As the official search ended Saturday, the man who accompanied Gardner to the island sought to fly back to the U.S. but he was detained at the airport.

"Statements made by the traveling companion led to such questions that on Friday, Aug. 5, 2011, it was decided to detain him for further questioning on the possible drowning of the woman," the prosecutor's office said in a statement.

Authorities referred to the man only by his initials, but his lawyer identified him as Gary V. Giordano, 50.

Island officials declined to say what precisely led them to stop Giordano or to provide many details about the case.

The newspaper Aruba Today said Giordano was detained because he bought a ticket to leave the island after earlier agreeing to stay and help the missing woman's mother search for her and to cooperate with the investigation into her disappearance.

 ::snipping2::


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20110809/cb-aruba-missing-american/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 10:17:55 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35229-om-investigacion-di-posible-hogamento-di-muher-mericano.html

Papiamentu translation:

om: investigacion of possible hogamento (drowning) of tourist mericano

tuesday, 09 august 2011 18:54 on 2 of august 2011

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug08.Robyn_Gardner.robyn_gardner_01.png)

for more or less 18:23’or owing to enter one melding at 911 of one muher cu posiblemente owing to hoga. the compañe of viahe of the muher, he g.v.g., owing to declara cu they owing to bay snorkel together behind nanki country club y cu past owing to give his girlfriend at one dado instant one sign for swim back canto. also past owing to declara cu the muher not owing to arrive canto together cu ne y cu dus, aparentamente, past owing to stay slow in lama, so one comunicado of prensa of ministerio publico is indica. is deal of the muher mericano r.g. of 35 year of edad y he mericano g.v.g. of 50 year. not despite buskedanan acute during one pair of day of among another surveillance, recherche, police maritimo, kustwacht, search and rescue, divernan y voluntarionan of the duikschool jads y the usage of two helikopter, one plane y several boat, the muher not owing to wordo achieve till day of today neither at lama, neither at costa. the declaracionnan of the compañe of viahe tocante the incidente owing to arise tanto question cu owing to dicidi on diabierna 5 august 2011 for detene for scuche more far tocante the posible hogamento of the muher. actualmente recherche, bao guia of fiscal, is druk bezig cu the investigacion.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 10:24:55 PM
 ::monkeywine2:: ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/35225-nancy-grace-ta-bek.html

Papiamentu translation:

nancy grace is back!

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug09.nancy.jpg)

tuesday, 09 august 2011 18:31

after of 6 year of not owing to hear mucho more of dje, after of desaparicion of one another tourist mericano at aruba, we island again is under atake pisa of the personalidad of television, nancy grace, in his declaration of policy at cnn headline news. the canal of televion is count ; cu more of 600 thousand televidente cu for we is much, but for merca is bit! according cable news ratings, the o'reilly factor of fox news is at cabes of the noticieronan at merca cu more sintonia cu 2.973 miyon televidente. nancy grace at headline news of cnn is come till at of 20 luga cu 689 thousand televidente.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 10:39:19 PM
http://arubaherald.com/local/760-investigation-into-the-possible-drowning-of-an-american-woman.html

Investigation into the possible drowning of an American woman         

Tuesday, 09 August 2011 18:57
 
On August 2, 2011 at about 6.23 PM (local time) 911 received notification of a possible drowning of a woman. The traveling companion of this woman, a man G.V.G. stated that they were going snorkeling behind Nanki Country Club and that at a given moment he had signaled his friend to swim back to the beach. He stated further that the woman had not reached the beach together with him and apparently had remained in the water.

The American woman in question is R.G, age 35, the man is indicated as G.V.G, age 50, also an American. In spite of intense searches during a number of days by amongst others the surveillance department and the detective department of the Aruban Police, the Aruban Maritime Police, the Coast Guard, Search and Rescue Divers and volunteer divers of Jads and the use of two helicopters, an airplane and several boats, until now the woman has not been found in sea or on the shore.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 11:01:26 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08092011_fb-1.jpg)

I'm not surprised.  They don't want to alarm the tourists. 

If Beth hadn't gone to Aruba, they would have tried to keep Natalee's disappearance quiet as well.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 09, 2011, 11:24:28 PM
Gary Giordano places himself at the scene when Robyn Gardner went missing.

Janet

++++++


Another US woman missing in Aruba
Aug 9, 2011 11:02 PM EST


ARUBA (WIAT) -- There's another missing person's mystery in Aruba as a woman disappears while vacationing.  Now, her travel companion is being held by police.

His attorney issued a statement to the Associated Press saying his client is being held unjustly in the disappearance of a 35-year-old woman.

Gary Giordano reportedly told Aruban police that Robyn Gardner disappeared while the two were snorkeling.  His attorneys said that Giordano was told he was not a suspect and didn't have to stay in Aruba; however, police detained him at the airport before he could board a flight.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Another-US-woman-missing-in-Aruba/fZutTDvG80-9BMHQpnvNIA.cspx



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 11:39:00 PM
http://www.dailyamerican.com/news/sns-bc-cb--aruba--missingamerican,0,3941749.story


US woman missing on Aruba vacation; detained travel companion denies any involvement
     
(http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2011-08/63862575.jpg)
 
This undated handout photo, released by the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on Tuesday, Aug. 9, 2011, shows Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Maryland. The prosecutor's office in Aruba said Gardner has gone missing in the Caribbean island after she went snorkeling with travel partner Gary V. Giordano, 50, who was later detained by the police and is being investigated on suspicion of involvement in her disappearance. (AP Photo/Natalee Holloway Resource Center) (AP / August 9, 2011)
 

Associated Press
 
10:35 p.m. EDT, August 9, 2011

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — A U.S. woman has disappeared while vacationing in Aruba, and authorities said Tuesday that police detained her travel partner because his statements about the incident had raised questions.

Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Maryland, vanished after snorkeling with her companion off the western tip of the Caribbean island Aug. 2, said Ann Angela, a spokeswoman for the prosecutor's office. She said police immediately launched an extensive search of the water and shore but turned up nothing and Gardner is still listed as missing.

As the official search ended Saturday, the man who accompanied Gardner to the island sought to fly back to the U.S. but he was detained at the airport.

"Statements made by the traveling companion led to such questions that on Friday, Aug. 5, 2011, it was decided to detain him for further questioning on the possible drowning of the woman," the prosecutor's office said in a statement.

Authorities referred to the man only by his initials, but his lawyer identified him as Gary V. Giordano, 50.

Island officials declined to say what precisely led them to stop Giordano or to provide many details about the case.

The newspaper Aruba Today said Giordano was detained because he bought a ticket to leave the island after earlier agreeing to stay and help the missing woman's mother search for her and to cooperate with the investigation into her disappearance.

Aruba has experience dealing with missing person cases following the still unsolved disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway during a high school class trip to the island in 2005. Her remains were never found and the main suspect, Joran van der Sloot, is in jail in Peru on charges of killing a 21-year-old woman last May.

Giordano's Aruban lawyer, Michael Lopez, said his client was being unjustly held.

"Our client emphatically denies being involved in any malicious act concerning his friend and consequently does not consider himself a suspect," Lopez said in a written statement provided to The Associated Press.

The two Americans had been in Aruba a couple of days when they decided to go snorkeling in the area known as Baby Beach, Lopez said. He said the pair eventually realized they were being pulled out to sea by the current and Giordano tapped on Gardner's leg to signal that they should swim back. When he got to shore, he noticed she wasn't with him and ran to get help after looking for her unsuccessfully in the water, the lawyer said.

Lopez said that in the following days, Giordano assisted with the search and answered questions from police. He said his client waited until the woman's mother arrived before he decided he should return to the U.S. Giordano says he was given permission to leave by an official at the U.S. consulate on the nearby island of Curacao, the lawyer said.

The U.S. vice consul, Winnie Hofstetter, declined to comment on the case.

Lopez said that after being detained, Giordano initially declined to cooperate further with prosecutors and police because he felt he was being wrongly detained.

"As judicial representative of our client we can say that after reading and analyzing everything there is until now in his case file, there is no concrete or direct indication that our client might be involved in any illicit act concerning his friend," Lopez said.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 09, 2011, 11:50:24 PM
Sorry, I just noticed that San posted that article earlier.  I don't know why it looked different when I read it.

 :oops:


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 01:48:23 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/09/ng.01.html

NANCY GRACE

Another American Woman Disappears in Aruba

Aired August 9, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


NANCY GRACE, HOST: Bombshell tonight. Another American girl goes missing, Aruba. After Aruban police refuse to make a case against judge`s son Joran Van Der Sloot in the disappearance of Alabama girl Natalee Holloway, Maryland tourist Robyn Gardner disappears without a trace from the very same resort town as Natalee Holloway.

Tonight, where is American tourist Robyn Gardner?

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GRACE: Let`s go straight to Aruba. Joining us tonight, the CEO of "Aruba Herald." It is Mark Benson Denz. Thank you very much for being with us. What are you hearing from Aruban authorities about the missing American girl?

MARK BENSON DENZ, CEO, ARUBA HERALD (via telephone): Good evening, Nancy, and to your other guests. Well, we have spoken a few minutes ago with the prosecutors here in Aruba. And as you said, there`s not much new information that they are willing to disclose at this time. What we do know is that they have put together a special task force of the police headed by one of the chief of the policemen and are working day and night to find a solution to see exactly what has happened to Robyn.

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GRACE: Back to Mark Benson Denz joining us, the CEO from "The Aruba Herald." I`m just very curious if -- has any evidence seized? Do we know anything about what police are actually doing to find the girl? What -- are they searching right now? What are they doing to find Robyn?

DENZ: Correct. Well, immediately after Robyn was reported missing that Tuesday afternoon at around 6:00 o`clock, we know that the Dutch coast guard together with the local search and rescue organization and the local police, as well as on land and also in sea, started to search. But after about 11:00 o`clock at night, it was very dark, so it didn`t make any sense to really continue the search.

And the next morning at 6:00 o`clock, they continued to do the search. Even the minister of justice was present to make sure that everything possible was being done in order to search for this person that has been reported missing.

GRACE: Well, Mark -- Mark, are they still searching for her? Or have they called off the search?

DENZ: No, there are still search going on, specifically more from the water, on the water side.

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GRACE: That`s a good point, Michael. Back to Mark Benson Denz with "The Aruba Herald." Mark, again, thank you for joining us -- Mark joining us tonight from Aruba. Mark, have police been able to narrow down that they were, in fact, actually snorkeling? Have they been able to determine where they rented their snorkel gear from?

DENZ: OK, I have to explain something. They were seen, it has been confirmed -- there are people that have testified that they have seen these two people together at the Baby Beach. But Baby Beach is not the exact area. It`s close by. It`s about six to seven minutes walk from the area where they actually went to snorkel, which is behind 90 (ph) Nanki Concrete (ph) Country Club.

And it`s a bit of an abandoned place. There are a company that rents out gear for snorkeling and also diving. We have not received the information from the police if they have rented snorkeling gear because snorkeling gear is actually pretty easy to just buy at a store and just use. So we do not have that information.

But the Baby Beach, where a lot of people traffic with their children and go to the beach, is a very populated area, and there they have confirmed to see them together. But we did not receive information -- the police did not want to release information if they have seen them actually snorkeling at the 90 Nanki Concrete Beach Club area, where the mister (ph) who has been detained is saying that they were snorkeling.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 02:04:13 AM
In this older article I noticed this

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/32322-a-salba-bida-di-un-landado-na-baby-beach.html

A salba bida di un landado na Baby Beach      
Thursday, 02 June 2011 21:49
 
one man owing to achieve problem in lama behind rum reef (ex nanki country club or esso club) y one good samaritano, mr. sjoerd owing to bay in accion y owing to enter water come cu the victima ground.
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So is there a Naki Country Club? or is it now the Rum Reef Bar and Grill? 

http://bentpage.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/rum-reef-aruba/

(http://bentpage.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/rum_reef1.jpg?w=470&h=312)

Rum Reef Aruba

Rum Reef Aruba is located where the old Esso club used to be between Baby and Rodgers Beaches, at the southern tip of the island.

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(http://bentpage.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/rum_reef2.jpg?w=470&h=312)

JADS dive shop is adjacent to the place, too. Here you can launch diving adventure, get snorkle equipment, and check in with the professionals who know what they’re doing.
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And found this reference too...

http://arubalibre.arubaeloquent.com/
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Unfortunately, instead of staging the main events in the area of Boca Grande Beach and the escarpments of the Grapefields, or the area of Baby Beach, or in back of, or in front of the former Nanki Club of the old Lago/Esso refinery,  the choice was made to situate the venue in the San Nicholas Stadium.
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 02:06:50 AM
I see a typo...  :2redman:

So is there a NakiNanki Country Club? or is it now the Rum Reef Bar and Grill? 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 02:10:34 AM
U.S. Man in Aruba Says He is Not Guilty
Man's lawyer says he did not have anything to do with vaction mate's disappearance.
The Associated Press

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Lopez says in a statement Tuesday to The Associated Press that Gary V. Giordano has told Aruban police that the woman disappeared in strong ocean currents while they were snorkeling.

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http://www.wfls.com/News/FLS/2011/082011/08092011/1312935275


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 02:19:01 AM
Search continues for missing woman: Man held in Aruba in connection with disappearance

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Gary Giordano, 50, was arrested Friday at the airport as he was preparing to leave Aruba, said Ann Angela, a spokeswoman for the Aruban prosecutor's office.

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Angela said Giordano, whose last known address is in Gaithersburg, appeared Monday before a judge, who ordered that he be held for eight more days. In Aruba, a judge must rule on the legality of a person's detention at set intervals, which can increase at different stages of detention, Angela said.

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Angela said authorities launched an extensive search after Gardner was reported missing, but that so far no clues as to her whereabouts have emerged. That search ended Saturday, but officials are still actively looking for Gardner, Angela said.

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According to Maryland Judiciary Case Search, a protective order was filed against Giordano in Montgomery County in February 2010. Giordano attempted unsuccessfully to have the order -- which expired in October 2010 -- rescinded.

A man who said Gardner had been staying almost exclusively at his Bethesda home since January -- although she maintains an address in downtown Frederick -- said he does not believe Gardner was snorkeling when she disappeared.

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http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?storyID=124684


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 02:27:23 AM
Court System:DISTRICT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY - CIVIL System 
Case Number:0601SP006552010Case Status:CLOSED
Case Type:PEACE ORDEROrder Valid Thru:08/16/2010
Filing Date:02/04/2010

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Defendant Name:GIORDANO, GARY
City:GAITHERSBURGState:MDDOB:05/01/1961
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Plaintiff Name:PORTNEY, VALERIE

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Hearing Date: 02/04/2010Hearing Time:10:7 AMRoom:X3
Hearing Location: 191 EAST JEFFERSON ST,ROCKVILLE,MD 20850
Served Date: 02/08/2010
Hearing Type: TEMPORARY
Result: COURT ORDERS:
SHALL NOT ABUSE
SHALL NOT CONTACT
SHALL NOT ENTER RESIDENCE
SHALL STAY AWAY FROM TEMPORARY RESIDENCE
SHALL STAY AWAY FROM EMPLOYMENT

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Hearing Date: 02/16/2010Hearing Time:8:30 AMRoom:X3
Hearing Location: 191 EAST JEFFERSON ST,ROCKVILLE,MD 20850
Hearing Type: FINAL
Result: COURT ORDERS:
SHALL NOT ABUSE
SHALL NOT CONTACT
SHALL NOT ENTER RESIDENCE
SHALL STAY AWAY FROM EMPLOYMENT

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Hearing Date: 10/12/2010Hearing Time:1:30 PMRoom:X6
Hearing Location: 191 EAST JEFFERSON ST,ROCKVILLE,MD 20850
Hearing Type: RESCIND
Result: DENIED

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=0601SP006552010&loc=23&detailLoc=DV


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 02:59:52 AM
Joe Lee
Interesting. I met Robyn on Match over a year ago. Met her once for a drink and stayed in touch. When I saw her right before she left for the 'beach' she told me she wasn't on online dating sites for quite awhile. So what's really going on?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 03:35:32 AM
Barb Perdew Markland
I met Robyn and Gary on the beach in front of the Marriott Stellaris Hotel on Sunday, July 31. They had arrived on that day. My husband and I sat and spoke with them for awhile. They asked my husband and I about activities on the island.... Was shocked to see that this had happened, since we just spoke with them last Sunday, late afternoon. I am sure it was Robyn because I commented on her tatoo, indicating that I liked it. Didn't think they went together as a couple, as he was much older. She was also sitting kind of far away from him on the beach chair. She was nice. We were actually discussing the Natalee Holloway case. I will pray for her return.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552#!/photo.php?fbid=2168968231061&set=o.230993886944552&type=1&theater


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2011, 06:11:52 AM
http://wamu.org/news/11/08/09/account_of_woman_missing_in_aruba_raising_concerns.php
Account Of Woman Missing in Aruba Raising Concerns
Elliott Francis
August 09, 2011

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Giordano, who is being held by Aruban police in connection with the disappearance, told police Gardner was washed out to sea when the pair went snorkeling.

Richard Forrester, Gardner's boyfriend for two years, says the story doesn’t make sense since Gardner wasn't inclined to swim.

"My gut feeling is that something bad has happened," said Forrester. "I don't think she was snorkeling or in the water at that time, six o'clock at night. She's a very beautiful, beautiful woman who was very concerned about her hair and makeup and I don't think she would have gone into the water to mess that up."
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2011, 07:37:20 AM
I heard this morning that Robyn had met this 50 yr old guy on line...which you all probably know..
 Has this guy been in any other trouble before this? What is everyone's gut feeling on this guy?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: melisb on August 10, 2011, 08:28:21 AM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

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Joe Lee

I interviewed Robyn for a job in Frederick the day before she said she was going to the beach for the weekend with a girlfriend. She also said she was not dating anyone. No reason for her to tell me any of this. So what's really going on?
38 minutes ago

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I think we grown ups all know what was going on!  I don't mean to pick on this woman but others should be wary of thinking they can just be "friends" with a man throwing money and trips at them! I do NOT know that this is what was going on but it looks like it could have been. You just can't go off with a man you don't really know and expect him to take it well when they don't want to be his girlfriend.  He probably wanted more from her.  After reading about Baby Beach I guess this could go either way.  He's just too hinky for me to let him off the hook yet.  All MOO!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2011, 08:30:39 AM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44082771/ns/today-today_news/t/maryland-woman-missing-aruba-travel-partner-held/#.TkJ4uWs7f0c
Maryland woman missing in Aruba; travel partner held
Boyfriend back home says he wants her back; case echoes Natalee Holloway disappearance

msnbc.com staff and news service reports
updated 8/9/2011 9:21:50 PM ET

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FREDERICK, Md. — An American man detained in Aruba denies he had anything to do with the disappearance of a woman vacationing with him on the Caribbean island, his lawyer said Tuesday.

Attorney Michael Lopez said his client is being unjustly held in the disappearance of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Md.

In Frederick, Gardner's boyfriend of two years, Richard Forester, said he just wants her back. The two fought but made up before she left for the trip, Forester claimed.

Lopez said in a statement Tuesday to The Associated Press that Gary V. Giordano has told Aruban police that the woman disappeared in strong ocean currents while they were snorkeling.
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 10, 2011, 08:36:09 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
Nancy Grace on Missing Aruba Tourist
'Swift Justice' host on steps being taken to find missing tourist Robyn Gardner.
8/10/2011

Video at link.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
Tourist Missing from Same Aruba Town as Holloway
Robyn Gardner vanished after snorkeling on vacation with a man she met online.
8/10/2011

Video at link.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: ospainter on August 10, 2011, 10:06:26 AM
http://your4state.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=202137

Hagerstown WHAG  TV

Reported by: Lynn Lawson
Tuesday, August 09 2011

FREDERICK, MD - Richard Forester says there's nothing he wants more in the world than to have his beloved girlfriend of over two years, Robyn Gardner, back in his arms.

"I love her with all my heart and just want her back," said Forester.

The Frederick woman disappeared while taking a vacation to Aruba with Gary Giordano.

According to an Aruban newspaper, Giordano and Gardner had met on an online dating site.

When Giordano originally reported Gardner missing, he told police she had never made it back to shore after a snorkeling trip.

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Video at link

 :smt039 texasmom

OS


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 10, 2011, 10:10:24 AM
Gary Vincent Giordano of Gaithersburg, 50, was arrested in Aruba in connection with the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, 35, according to the Natalee Holloway Research Center in Washington, D.C., who received the information from Gardner’s boyfriend, Richard Forester. Aruba police would not confirm the name of the person arrested, but would only say his initials are G.V.G. and that he was headed to the United States before his arrest. ::snipping2::

http://www.gazette.net/article/20110809/NEWS/708099961/1009/woman-goes-missing-in-caribbean-acquaintance-detained&template=gazette


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 10, 2011, 10:16:34 AM
Giordano, who has a criminal record that includes accusations of domestic violence, told police he and Gardner had been snorkeling off an Aruba beach around 6 p.m. on Aug. 2 when he swam back to shore and realized Gardner was no longer with him. ::snipping2::

http://abcnews.go.com/US/maryland-woman-disappears-aruba-town-natalee-holloway-vanished/story?id=14267156


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 10, 2011, 10:37:01 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/In%20the%20News/missinginaruba.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 10:55:45 AM
Holloway Resource Center helps in Aruba missing woman case
August 10, 2011


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In Frederick, Maryland  Gardner's boyfriend of two years, Richard Forester, said he just wants her back. The two fought but made up before she left for the trip, Forester claimed.

Forester contacted the Natalee Holloway Resource Center in Washington, D.C., which helped spread news of Gardner's disappearance. The center was founded by Natalee's mother Beth and provides assistance to the families of missing people.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Holloway-Resource-Center-helps-in-Aruba-missing/YV2tWGtJ80qR1J5ArBS_nA.cspx

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Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 11:06:32 AM
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 11:08:22 AM
More questions for US man in Aruba disappearance

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Aruban Solicitor General Taco Stein said Wednesday that authorities had called off the active search for Gardner because they had no more leads to pursue, but that they plan to question Giordano again.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/more-questions-for-us-1091184.html



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 11:10:49 AM
Gaithersburg Business Owner Investigated for Aruba Disappearance

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NBC reports that Giordano has had several restraining orders against him in Montgomery County by former girlfriends who claim he stalked and physically abused them.

Giordano is listed on the business networking site LinkedIn as the CEO of Leverage LLC, a technology consulting firm based in Gaithersburg. His profile also says he was a consultant for the Red Cross and a sales executive at Sogeti LLC.

 ::snipping2::

http://gaithersburg.patch.com/articles/gaithersburg-business-owner-investigated-for-aruba-disappearance


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 11:12:29 AM

Search for Woman Missing in Aruba Echoes Natalee Holloway Case

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The Aruba Herald reported that Giordano and Gardner met on an online dating website and had been seeing each other regularly for weeks.

Another man, Richard Forester, identified himself as Gardner's boyfriend. He told AP that he had thought the relationship between Giordano and Gardner was platonic. But Forester now has his doubts about what was going on. “I'm starting to believe there was some romantic thing,” Forester said. (via AP)

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/08/10/search-for-woman-missing-in-aruba-echoes-natalee-holloway-case/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 10, 2011, 11:12:58 AM
Hey monkeys. I just saw this thread this morning. I haven't even heard of this. I guess it just hit the news over the past couple of days? I started from the beginning but let me get this straight... Robyn has a bf, a steady boyfriend, but she's also on dating sites picking guys up? She had a job interview right before she left for Aruba with a guy she met some time ago on match.com, but lied to the guy that interviewed her by saying she was going away with girlfriends and also that she doesn't have a boyfriend. But Richard Forrester really wants her back home & they supposedly love each other? He loves her & wants her back even though she obviously lied about having a boyfriend & she was apparently cheating on him with Gary Giordano that she met on an online dating site? Sorry, chicks don't play different hands like this unless they're counting cards. Gary has a skeptical past but he could very well be telling the truth. It's so odd to me that Forrester wants her back even though she was in dating sites, lied about having a boyfriend, went to Aruba with a guy that used his points to get her there...who knows how long she's been sleeping with both...but Forrester is pointing the finger at Giordano? That area is bad for the current. That specific beach is close to the stream that could sink ships if people don't know what they're doing.

Maybe Giordano really does have something to do with Robyn's disappearance...but maybe, just maybe, the media is latching into the Natalee Holloway comparison to capitalize on her disappearance since it's slow Casey Anthony days. I mean, I sorta find it odd that they didn't cover the other drienings & disappearances from that beach area but since Robyn looks a little like Natalee they make a comparison to the crime?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 11:14:13 AM
Holloway Resource Center helps in Aruba missing woman case

 ::snipping2::

Forester contacted the Natalee Holloway Resource Center in Washington, D.C., which helped spread news of Gardner's disappearance. The center was founded by Natalee's mother Beth and provides assistance to the families of missing people.


http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Holloway-Resource-Center-helps-in-Aruba-missing/YV2tWGtJ80qR1J5ArBS_nA.cspx


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 11:18:40 AM
Robyn Gardner's Boyfriend Says Disappearance Story Doesn't Add Up

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Forrester says in spite of their relationship, Gardner was less than truthful about Giordano.

"I didn't know who he was. I just knew that he was a friend," he says. "I was under the impression that he was a homosexual friend, and now I believe that's not true."

 ::snipping2::

http://wamu.org/news/11/08/10/robyn_gardners_boyfriend_says_disappearance_story_doesnt_add_up.php


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 11:20:23 AM
Hey monkeys. I just saw this thread this morning. I haven't even heard of this. I guess it just hit the news over the past couple of days? I started from the beginning but let me get this straight... Robyn has a bf, a steady boyfriend, but she's also on dating sites picking guys up? She had a job interview right before she left for Aruba with a guy she met some time ago on match.com, but lied to the guy that interviewed her by saying she was going away with girlfriends and also that she doesn't have a boyfriend. But Richard Forrester really wants her back home & they supposedly love each other? He loves her & wants her back even though she obviously lied about having a boyfriend & she was apparently cheating on him with Gary Giordano that she met on an online dating site? Sorry, chicks don't play different hands like this unless they're counting cards. Gary has a skeptical past but he could very well be telling the truth. It's so odd to me that Forrester wants her back even though she was in dating sites, lied about having a boyfriend, went to Aruba with a guy that used his points to get her there...who knows how long she's been sleeping with both...but Forrester is pointing the finger at Giordano? That area is bad for the current. That specific beach is close to the stream that could sink ships if people don't know what they're doing.

Maybe Giordano really does have something to do with Robyn's disappearance...but maybe, just maybe, the media is latching into the Natalee Holloway comparison to capitalize on her disappearance since it's slow Casey Anthony days. I mean, I sorta find it odd that they didn't cover the other drienings & disappearances from that beach area but since Robyn looks a little like Natalee they make a comparison to the crime?

Pretty much sums things up.  Add to it Arooba said nothing for over a week after they knew Robyn was missing, have called off the search now because there are no clues, and it would neve have hit the news had the BF not contacted Beth who is helping to get the story on the MSM.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 10, 2011, 11:20:26 AM

Search for Woman Missing in Aruba Echoes Natalee Holloway Case

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The Aruba Herald reported that Giordano and Gardner met on an online dating website and had been seeing each other regularly for weeks.

Another man, Richard Forester, identified himself as Gardner's boyfriend. He told AP that he had thought the relationship between Giordano and Gardner was platonic. But Forester now has his doubts about what was going on. “I'm starting to believe there was some romantic thing,” Forester said. (via AP)

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/08/10/search-for-woman-missing-in-aruba-echoes-natalee-holloway-case/

Uh... Duh...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 11:24:26 AM
Revealed: 'Violent past' of man held over disappearance of American tourist in Aruba

The 50-year-old man arrested over the disappearance of an American tourist in Aruba has a criminal record and a history of domestic violence, it emerged today.

Gary Giordano was detained by police while trying to leave the island after Robyn Gardner went missing.

He was divorced from his ex-wife in 2008 'amid allegations of domestic violence' during which she obtained a restraining order, according to court reports.

At least one other woman sought a similar order against him, Gawker reported.

Giordano 'emphatically denies' any involvement in Ms Gardener's disappearance and has told police she vanished in strong currents while she was snorkelling.

But an Aruba prosecutor's office spokesamn said the waters at Baby Beach, where Giordano said the pair had been, were 'calm and gentle'.
 ::snipping2::


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024306/Robyn-Gardner-missing-Aruban-resort-town-6-years-Natalee-Holloway-vanished.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 10, 2011, 11:25:10 AM
Hey monkeys. I just saw this thread this morning. I haven't even heard of this. I guess it just hit the news over the past couple of days? I started from the beginning but let me get this straight... Robyn has a bf, a steady boyfriend, but she's also on dating sites picking guys up? She had a job interview right before she left for Aruba with a guy she met some time ago on match.com, but lied to the guy that interviewed her by saying she was going away with girlfriends and also that she doesn't have a boyfriend. But Richard Forrester really wants her back home & they supposedly love each other? He loves her & wants her back even though she obviously lied about having a boyfriend & she was apparently cheating on him with Gary Giordano that she met on an online dating site? Sorry, chicks don't play different hands like this unless they're counting cards. Gary has a skeptical past but he could very well be telling the truth. It's so odd to me that Forrester wants her back even though she was in dating sites, lied about having a boyfriend, went to Aruba with a guy that used his points to get her there...who knows how long she's been sleeping with both...but Forrester is pointing the finger at Giordano? That area is bad for the current. That specific beach is close to the stream that could sink ships if people don't know what they're doing.

Maybe Giordano really does have something to do with Robyn's disappearance...but maybe, just maybe, the media is latching into the Natalee Holloway comparison to capitalize on her disappearance since it's slow Casey Anthony days. I mean, I sorta find it odd that they didn't cover the other drienings & disappearances from that beach area but since Robyn looks a little like Natalee they make a comparison to the crime?

Pretty much sums things up.  Add to it Arooba said nothing for over a week after they knew Robyn was missing, have called off the search now because there are no clues, and it would neve have hit the news had the BF not contacted Beth who is helping to get the story on the MSM.

Rose, I'll never in my life go to Aruba again. Ever. We haven't been since the year before Natalee's disappearance. I despise their crooked judicial system. I'll never trust them to protect my family's safety again.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cw618 on August 10, 2011, 11:27:48 AM
just when Aruba,thinks o.k. now that jslut is gone,we can get back to norm biz,
and what ya know another missing woman,in thier not so wonderful vayk country

was Giordano from Aruba,or Gardner and Giordano, just agree to vac there together


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 11:48:28 AM
More questions for US man in Aruba disappearance
BEN FOX, Associated Press
Updated 11:09 a.m., Wednesday, August 10, 2011


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Gardner, a 5-foot-5-inch blonde with prominent tattoos on her arm, rib cage and right bicep, had worked in the past as a patient care coordinator at a dental office in Bethesda, Maryland, said Richard A. Forester, who said he was her boyfriend.

Forester said Gardner lived much of the time with him in Rockville, Maryland and had said that she and Giordano were platonic friends. The pair were scheduled to spend about five days in Aruba, Forester said.

"I'm starting to believe that's not true," Forester said in a phone interview. "I'm starting to believe there was some romantic thing."

Forester said he and Gardner had been in contact through Facebook until just before she disappeared. After she vanished, her Google Chat indicators showed she was active on Gmail, then on but not active, and finally off, he said. It seemed to indicate that she or someone else had been on her Gmail account, he said.

<snipped>

http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/More-questions-for-US-man-in-Aruba-disappearance-1793892.php



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 10, 2011, 11:51:18 AM
Robyn Gardner's Boyfriend Says Disappearance Story Doesn't Add Up

 ::snipping2::

Forrester says in spite of their relationship, Gardner was less than truthful about Giordano.

"I didn't know who he was. I just knew that he was a friend," he says. "I was under the impression that he was a homosexual friend, and now I believe that's not true."

 ::snipping2::

http://wamu.org/news/11/08/10/robyn_gardners_boyfriend_says_disappearance_story_doesnt_add_up.php

This statement bugs me, because I know that I read a statement that Forrester made regarding who Gardner was going to Aruba with...he said that she was going with a girlfriend...so now he says a homosexual friend.  Why didn't Forrester just say she was going with a friend?  Let me go and see if I can find that statement (maybe I am wrong)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cw618 on August 10, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
just when Aruba,thinks o.k. now that jslut is gone,we can get back to norm biz,
and what ya know another missing woman,in thier not so wonderful vayk country

was Giordano from Aruba,or Gardner and Giordano, just agree to vac there together

TY Tamikosmom
from
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11942.msg1459927#msg1459927
Forester said Gardner lived much of the time with him in Rockville, Maryland and had said that she and Giordano were platonic friends. The pair were scheduled to spend about five days in Aruba, Forester said.
http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/More-questions-for-US-man-in-Aruba-disappearance-1793892.php


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 10, 2011, 12:02:37 PM
Robyn Gardner's Boyfriend Says Disappearance Story Doesn't Add Up

 ::snipping2::

Forrester says in spite of their relationship, Gardner was less than truthful about Giordano.

"I didn't know who he was. I just knew that he was a friend," he says. "I was under the impression that he was a homosexual friend, and now I believe that's not true."

 ::snipping2::

http://wamu.org/news/11/08/10/robyn_gardners_boyfriend_says_disappearance_story_doesnt_add_up.php

This statement bugs me, because I know that I read a statement that Forrester made regarding who Gardner was going to Aruba with...he said that she was going with a girlfriend...so now he says a homosexual friend.  Why didn't Forrester just say she was going with a friend?  Let me go and see if I can find that statement (maybe I am wrong)

Looking back...maybe he did say friend.  I believe it was someone else that mentions girlfriend.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 12:03:33 PM
Forester, who has been Gardner's boyfriend for the last two and a half years, told ABCNews.com that she went to Aruba with Giordano without telling him.

"She told me she was going away on a family trip," Forester said.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 12:05:38 PM
The pair had been snorkeling off an area known as Baby Beach. Giordano says he noticed that they were being pulled out to sea by the current, so he tapped on Robyn's leg to let her know they should head back to shore.

But when Giordano arrived on land, he noticed that Robyn was no longer with him.

Yet Robyn's roommate, Christina Jones, says police told her that Giordano's clothes were dry by the time he reported her missing. Loved ones usually don't take time to change when their girlfriends may be drowning.

Police also say the waters off Baby Beach were "calm and gentle" that day.

Some reports indicate that Giordano and Robyn met on an internet dating site, even though Robyn was already dating someone else. They'd been dating for a few weeks when Giordano bought tickets for the pair to vacation in Aruba.

Robyn had recently been laid off from the dental clinic where she worked, so she decided to spend a little time abroad. But that didn't please her boyfriend, Richard Forester. He says they argued about the trip before she left.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 10, 2011, 12:09:47 PM
Forester, who has been Gardner's boyfriend for the last two and a half years, told ABCNews.com that she went to Aruba with Giordano without telling him.

"She told me she was going away on a family trip," Forester said.

Oh, well that IS different than his thinking that she went with a homosexual friend.  Hmmmm....why is HE changing his story?  Or is it just reported wrong?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 12:12:54 PM
I'm seeing different different statements - whether the media is misquoting, I don't know, but Forrester also elaborated after he made the statement regarding how he questioned that she would go snorkeling because she was concerned about hair and makeup, he added that she probably would have had a couple of drinks by then (meaning 6PM) and would be getting ready to go out for the night at that time - Trying to find that article now...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 10, 2011, 12:15:28 PM
Just throwing this out there...surely Forester and Giordano have no connections.  I mean you never know. Giordano could have been planted on Match if Forester was suspicious.  Only a theory...not saying I buy it.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
 http://gawker.com/5829414/%7CcommentLink%7C



And Forester says she never would have gone on such an evening swim:

"I just don't think she was snorkeling...We went on vacations and I couldn't even get her to put her head under water in the pool. She was into makeup and hair, and knowing her she would have had a few cocktails already and would only be getting ready to go out that night."


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 12:33:03 PM
Giordano was divorced from his ex-wife in 2008 "amid allegations of domestic violence," during which she obtained a restraining order, according to court records. At least one other woman sought a similar order of protection against him. He also had several arrests on his record for thefts under $500. Giordano "emphatically denies" any wrongdoing, according to a statement issued by his lawyer.


I knew about the domestic violence charges, but now theft - shady character -


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 12:46:35 PM
First thing I noticed regarding the pics of this guy was the bathing suit looked dry, but I figured maybe it was a while before pic was taken, but now reports that it was dry when police saw him - Was he given a breathalyzer? - Was he drunk? - I've been traveling to Aruba for 15 years, Baby Beach does have a strong current once you go out a bit, but snorkeling at 6PM? anywhere really is not a good idea, especially since many people won't be there at that time (safety in numbers?) and snorkeling if you're drinking, really not a good idea , so I would be curious if he was intoxicated - also did he have snorkeling equipment on him? - did they take a cab to Baby Beach? arrange to have one pick them up at any time? - did they have a rental car? - how did they get there from Renaissance?  where were they just before?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 10, 2011, 01:08:27 PM
http://travel.usatoday.com/destinations/dispatches/post/2011/08/aruba-tourism-authority-on-the-mysterious-death-of-another-american-/414565/1

Aruba Tourism Authority on the mysterious death of another American
By Kitty Bean Yancey, USA TODAY

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Does this give Aruba another tourist black eye? Many Americans were irate when U.S. teen Natalee Holloway disappeared on a school trip in May 2005 and then allegedly died after apparently going to a lonely beach with local Joran Van der Sloot and his friends after a night of clubbing. Some even boycotted the island, though it is known as being generally peaceful.

Robert Einhorn, a U.S. publicity representative for the Aruba Tourism Authority, said today that as Gardner's disappearance does not appear to be "a tourism situation, we are not commenting." He said North American visitation was up 1.48% last year from 2009, and that in July 2011, Aruba reported 50,558 U.S. visitors, up 6.5% since July 2010.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 02:13:22 PM
According to Boyfriend

Creepy Travel Companion Held in Aruba Vanishing Case
Aug 10, 2011 3:46 AM


Gardner had gotten into a fight with her boyfriend of two-and-a-half years, Richard Forester, before leaving with Giordano, but had been in contact with him via text and email until the day of her disappearance.

<snipped>

And Forester says she never would have gone on such an evening swim:

"I just don't think she was snorkeling...We went on vacations and I couldn't even get her to put her head under water in the pool. She was into makeup and hair, and knowing her she would have had a few cocktails already and would only be getting ready to go out that night."

http://gawker.com/5829414/%7CcommentLink%7C


According to Younger Brother

Md. man faces more questions in woman's disappearance in Aruba
August 10, 2011


Gardner's younger brother, Andrew Colson, said Giordano seemed too calm when his mother came to Aruba to help find her daughter.

"He didn't seem very sorrowful. He wasn't mournful or anything," Colson told The Associated Press in a phone interview from Odenton, Md.

Colson, who last saw his sister in May, said Aruban authorities asked them not to discuss the case in detail, but that they do not believe Giordano's account of what happened. He said she was unlikely to have been snorkeling in the first place.

"I think there's more to it," he said. "She just wouldn't want to ruin her makeup or get her hair wet."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44090650/ns/world_news-americas/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 02:31:21 PM
Statement from the Aruban Prosecutor

Aruba Tourism Authority on the mysterious death of another American
August 10, 2011


<snipped>

An Aug. 9 Aruba prosecutor's statement was forwarded to USA TODAY. Here it is:

"On August 2, 2011 at about 6.23 PM (local time) 911 received notification of a possible drowning of a woman. The traveling companion of this woman, a man G.V.G. stated that they were going snorkeling behind Nanki Country Club and that at a given moment he had signaled his friend to swim back to the beach. He stated further that the woman had not reached the beach together with him and apparently had remained in the water.

The American woman in question is R.G, age 35, the man is indicated as G.V.G, age 50, also an American.

In spite of intense searches during a number of days by amongst others the surveillance department and the detective department of the Aruban Police, the Aruban Maritime Police, the Coast Guard, Search and Rescue Divers and volunteer divers of Jads and the use of two helicopters, an airplane and several boats, until now the woman has not been found in sea or on the shore.

The statements made by the traveling companion led to such questions that on Friday, August 5, 2011 it was decided to detain him for further questioning on the possible drowning of the woman."

<snipped>

http://travel.usatoday.com/destinations/dispatches/post/2011/08/aruba-tourism-authority-on-the-mysterious-death-of-another-american-/414565/1

+++++

Website:
Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Facebook:
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 02:58:59 PM
Could it be that Robyn Gardner's mother put pressure on Aruba to detain Giordano rather than allowing him to return to the States?

Could it be that invaluabl  advice was afforded that implied there could possibly be issues related to jurisdiction/extradiction if further questioning was required if Giordano left the Island?

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Permission to Leave

Md. man faces more questions in woman's disappearance in Aruba
August 10, 2011
[/b]

Giordano's Aruban lawyer, Michael Lopez, said his client was being unjustly held.

<snipped>

Lopez said that in the following days, Giordano assisted with the search and answered questions from police. He said his client waited until the woman's mother arrived before he decided he should return to the U.S.  Giordano says he was given permission to leave by an official at the U.S. consulate on the nearby island of Curacao, the lawyer said.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44090650/ns/world_news-americas/


Further Questioning

Aruba Tourism Authority on the mysterious death of another American
August 10, 2011


<snipped>

An Aug. 9 Aruba prosecutor's statement was forwarded to USA TODAY. Here it is:

" ... The statements made by the traveling companion led to such questions that on Friday, August 5, 2011 it was decided to detain him for further questioning on the possible drowning of the woman."

<snipped>

http://travel.usatoday.com/destinations/dispatches/post/2011/08/aruba-tourism-authority-on-the-mysterious-death-of-another-american-/414565/1


Jurisdiction and Extradition!!

NANCY GRACE
Judge Dismisses Holloway Suit
Aired August 11, 2006 - 20:00:00   ET


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER:  ...And you know -- and being dismissed in New York, it was on a procedure ruling.  Here again, jurisdiction.  We have faced that issue since May 30 of 2005.  Jurisdiction and extradition hve hit us in the face every time.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/11/ng.01.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 04:19:44 PM
Over six years later ... Beth Holloway continues to be Aruba's worst nightmare.  With Natalee Holloway's mother in the background affording advice to the mother of Robyn Gardner ... justice has a chance of prevailing.  Aruba realizes that the world is watching.

++++++


Missing in Aruba Suspect's Lawyer Says 'There's No Proof'
Aug. 10, 2011


<snipped>

Natalee Holloway's Mom Gets Involved

The Natalee Holloway Resource Center, a foundation started after Holloway's disappearance, has been offering help to Gardner's boyfriend, Richard Forester.

"It strikes a chord close to home because that's where my nightmare began, the day I got the call in 2005," Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee, told ABC News. "We want to be a first responder to these families, we want to be there to help them. "

<snipped>

Beth Holloway knows the dread Gardner's family must be feeling and had advice for them.

"I think about just the devastating, unimaginable nightmare ahead," Holloway said. "Being in a foreign destination is the most incomprehensible [situation], the language barriers, the foreign government. All of the documents are in Dutch, it's Dutch law, and there's not a homeland connection during the process."

Holloway encouraged the family to ask Aruba to involve the FBI, she said.

"There's a protocol you have to follow. The FBI doesn't have jurisdiction in foreign places, but the family can send a plea to the government to ask them to invite the FBI to be involved. It's one of the first steps I took early on, because it's comforting to have the victim's homeland law enforcement working on the case," Holloway said.

Holloway said she hopes that Gardner's family will keep up the search efforts for their daughter.

"I'd say continue the search, keep passing out fliers and passing information—tips, sources—onto the law enforcement officials there. I would encourage them to accept all media invitations. There are positive steps to finding the loved one," Holloway said.

Though her own daughter was not found and no one was ever found guilty of killing her, Holloway said she hopes for different outcomes for Gardner's case.

"I hope that she is found safe and sound and comes home, but if she isn't, I hope the perpetrator is brought to justice," she said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-missing-aruba-natalee-holloways-mother/story?id=14271819
______


Website:
Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Facebook:
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
Colson, who last saw his sister in May, said Aruban authorities asked them not to discuss the case in detail, but that they do not believe Giordano's account of what happened. He said she was unlikely to have been snorkeling in the first place.



That's what I find hard to believe.  Even though the beach area of Baby Beach is calm, once you go out a bit it is rough and has a strong current and 6pm is not a time to snorkel, not at this out of the way area, maybe in front of your beach hotel close to shore for a little while, but the sun is going down - Baby Beach is a daytime excursion - the times I've been there everyone is leaving at 5, 6pm -

Also, she posted to facebook at around 2am on 8/2 and he claims she went missing later after 6pm after snorkeling, so beside Giordano, when was the last time anyone saw or heard from her - Is he telling the truth or did something happen right after 2am, maybe after he saw her post to facebook, "This sucks"


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 04:47:32 PM
Beth Holloway will be Nancy Grace's guest this evening.

Janet

+++++

Missing in Aruba Suspect's Lawyer Says 'There's No Proof'
Aug. 10, 2011


The Natalee Holloway Resource Center, a foundation started after Holloway's disappearance, has been offering help to Gardner's boyfriend, Richard Forester.

<snipped>

Video:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-missing-aruba-natalee-holloways-mother/story?id=14271819


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 05:38:53 PM
http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/10/another-american-beauty-missing-in-aruba/?hpt=ng_mid

(video)

August 10, 2011
07:46 AM ET

Another American Beauty Missing in Aruba

CNN

Tonight we have #NataleeHolloway mom Beth Holloway to talk about another young woman's disappearance in #Aruba.

(the video is at least a portion of last night's show)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 05:47:54 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-missing-aruba-natalee-holloways-mother/story?id=14271819

Missing in Aruba Suspect's Lawyer Says 'There's No Proof

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_robyn_gardner_2_dm_110810_wg.jpg)

Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Md. is shown in this file photo. (Natalee Holloway Resource Center/AP Photo)

By COLLEEN CURRY and ANDREA CANNING (@andreacanGMA)

Aug. 10, 2011

The attorney for a man being held in Aruba for the disappearance at sea of Robyn Gardner claimed today that there is no evidence that his client committed murder.

 ::snipping2::

Maryland court documents show that a Gary Giordano there has a criminal record, including two orders of protection taken out by women that claimed he was violent. One was taken out by his ex-wife during their divorce procedings.

Two women who say they dated Giordano told "Good Morning America" he was terrifying, and another woman said Giordano stalked her.

"He was like following me, stalking me, and it freaked me out," said the woman, who wished to remain anonymous.


Beth Holloway knows the dread Gardner's family must be feeling and had advice for them.

"I think about just the devastating, unimaginable nightmare ahead," Holloway said. "Being in a foreign destination is the most incomprehensible [situation], the language barriers, the foreign government. All of the documents are in Dutch, it's Dutch law, and there's not a homeland connection during the process."

Holloway encouraged the family to ask Aruba to involve the FBI, she said.

"There's a protocol you have to follow. The FBI doesn't have jurisdiction in foreign places, but the family can send a plea to the government to ask them to invite the FBI to be involved. It's one of the first steps I took early on, because it's comforting to have the victim's homeland law enforcement working on the case," Holloway said.

Holloway said she hopes that Gardner's family will keep up the search efforts for their daughter.

"I'd say continue the search, keep passing out fliers and passing information—tips, sources—onto the law enforcement officials there. I would encourage them to accept all media invitations. There are positive steps to finding the loved one," Holloway said.

Though her own daughter was not found and no one was ever found guilty of killing her, Holloway said she hopes for different outcomes for Gardner's case.

"I hope that she is found safe and sound and comes home, but if she isn't, I hope the perpetrator is brought to justice," she said.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 05:55:50 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/10/earlyshow/main20090530.shtml

August 10, 2011 9:32 AM


Missing Md. woman's companion in Aruba detained

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Robyn Gardner (Flickr/Personal Photo)

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Beth Holloway told CBS News, "You are pretty much at the mercy of the foreign destination's law enforcement to decide when to give you the information, if to give you information. It's very frustrating. It's very frightening."


But more than a week after her disappearance, all the family can do is hope that Robyn Gardner doesn't become the next Natalee Holloway.


Natalee Holloway, from Alabama, disappeared during a high school class trip to the island in 2005. Her remains were never found, and the main person of interest in the case, Joran van der Sloot, is in prison in Peru on charges of killing 21-year-old Stephany Flores last May. Van der Sloot is a Dutch national who lived on Aruba at the time Natalee Holloway disappeared.
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 06:05:28 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35244-abogado-mr-lopez-y-su-cliente-no-a-spera-cu-e-caso-lo-por-a-complica-asina.html

Papiamentu translation:

advocate mr. lopez y his cliente not owing to wait for cu the caso will can owing to complica so

tuesday, 09 august 2011 23:27

the sospechoso gary giordano is feel his self inocente. we owing to combersa amplio cu the advocate of gary giordano, mr. michael lopez. as is conoci giordano is bao sospecha of homicidio contra the person muher mericano, robyn gardner, cu at the momentonan here is desapareci. the advocate owing to declara cu giordano owing to give one declaracion extenso at police on diabierna y they owing to ask about police if the have to stay one pair of day more at aruba, for change his vuelo.

police not owing to contesta nothing, y nightfall at instant cu his cliente was for lever plane for go back merca, they owing to detene because; sospechoso. giordano cu his girlfriend owing to come happen one pair of day of vacacion at aruba y on they first day akinan they owing to bay core rond at baby beach, cu intencion of go snorkel. his day next they owing to bay back but was one bit late afternoon, y after of come they owing to bay snorkel y is instant cu the child muher owing to disparce. advocate mr. lopez owing to tell cu at once he owing to beat alarma, past owing to ask person for yude y eynan the investigacion owing to cuminza. the pareha owing to conoce another one pair of year happen, in one “dating site” is thing the advocate have entendi, y they owing to follow cu amistad, yamando another at telephone much, y because; two trip for month they're come across another.

advocate lopez owing to agrega cu his cliente is divorcia y have child, y the have indicacion cu the child muher was casa, but of dje the not have more informacion. his cliente is deteni for sospecha of asesinato, although not have curpa, y this according mr. lopez the not can compronde. past owing to splica also cu fiscal have diez day for haci his investigacion, y the is wait for cu in the lapso here “any time” the can tell his cliente cu the can bay cas. advocate lopez self not owing to achieve the declaracion of his cliente still, but the have entendi cu the not owing to change locual past owing to tell first only owing to bay more in detaye.

giordano owing to talk cu the parents of the child muher y did take contacto cu viceconsul mericano, for if the have to of his aid, y owing to bise cu the is stay akinan one pair of day more. tocante the supuesto seguro cu is wordo talk of dje, advocate mr. lopez owing to aclarea cu is deal of one seguro of viahe cu his cliente is custumbra of pay cada bez cu the is viaha y esey is algo very normal self. past owing to menciona besides cu his cliente owing to bay fast fiscal end, but his detencion owing to being prolonga cu eight day more. sr. giordano is feel his self much fastioso, the advocate owing to agrega, because the is declara his self inocente y locual the wanted is arrive his cas. besides cu his cliente is miss of his girlfriend, the is angry because the not owing to think cu the cosnan is bay so here, while cu past owing to coopera cu husticia completamente. advocate mr. lopez niether can owing to wait for cu the procedura can owing to bay at the as here.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 06:40:16 PM
We have learned disturbing new details about Gary Giordano's past. He lives in Darnestown. His place was searched last year during an investigation of allegations of rape, assault and secret videotaping. The cases involved two other women that never went to trial.

At Gary Girodano's house, a security camera on the roof keeps watch and there's a warning at the door telling all visitors that they will be video and audio recorded at all times, while visiting the property.

Giordano's apparent interest in videotaping everything is at the root of an application for a search warrant by a special investigator for Montogomery County's State's attorney signed by a judge May 5, 2010
.

According to the application, the warrant was being sought in the wake of Giordano's arrest on April 22, 2010 after a woman accused him of hitting and choking her during consensual sex in the home.

In fact, investigators had a video of the entire attack. According to the application, the victim "was struck several times in the head, face buttocks and legs." She was also "digitally choked and subjected to manual strangulation during the event."



http://wusa9.com/news/article/162086/373/Details-Surface-About-Missing-Womans-Traveling-Partner


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

August 10, 2011

Front Page and Page 4

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FRONT PAGE

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Papiamentu translation:

ALL THE CIRCUS OF PRENSA INTERNACIONAL IS RIPITI ENTRANTE TODAY


PAGE 4

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 06:44:48 PM
If no one saw her after 2am on 8/2, I'm really starting to wonder if he did something to her at that time - She posted around that time "This sucks" so perhaps this vacation was then turning sour, whatever happened to her perhaps happened in those early morning hours and Giordano waited until 6pm to report her missing After he got rid of her body - gruesome to think, but she has now been missing over a week and no body has been found, which would suggest that maybe she has been deliberately hidden -


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 06:47:35 PM
We have learned disturbing new details about Gary Giordano's past. He lives in Darnestown. His place was searched last year during an investigation of allegations of rape, assault and secret videotaping. The cases involved two other women that never went to trial.

At Gary Girodano's house, a security camera on the roof keeps watch and there's a warning at the door telling all visitors that they will be video and audio recorded at all times, while visiting the property.

Giordano's apparent interest in videotaping everything is at the root of an application for a search warrant by a special investigator for Montogomery County's State's attorney signed by a judge May 5, 2010
.

According to the application, the warrant was being sought in the wake of Giordano's arrest on April 22, 2010 after a woman accused him of hitting and choking her during consensual sex in the home.

In fact, investigators had a video of the entire attack. According to the application, the victim "was struck several times in the head, face buttocks and legs." She was also "digitally choked and subjected to manual strangulation during the event."

http://wusa9.com/news/article/162086/373/Details-Surface-About-Missing-Womans-Traveling-Partner

Sickening...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I did notice when I was looking at court records that when his wife filed domestic violence charges on him, he filed them on her too!  But the case he filed didn't proceed.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 06:50:37 PM
If no one saw her after 2am on 8/2, I'm really starting to wonder if he did something to her at that time - She posted around that time "This sucks" so perhaps this vacation was then turning sour, whatever happened to her perhaps happened in those early morning hours and Giordano waited until 6pm to report her missing After he got rid of her body - gruesome to think, but she has now been missing over a week and no body has been found, which would suggest that maybe she has been deliberately hidden -

Possible, there are witnesses that saw them at Baby Beach; but I also remember reading that they'd gone there one day and were going to go back and snorkel another day.

Maybe that was him making sure they were seen in the area together?



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 06:55:34 PM
Again, did this guy have a rental car?  I'm really starting to think based on his priors, that he did something to her, Again, early in the morning 8/2 and got rid of her body, not calling the police until 6pm - but he would need something to transport her -  I'm starting to think he just said they were at Baby Beach because like I said before, I don't think people are generally there at that time and he figured no one could dispute his story -  Did he travel to Aruba a lot? Does he know anyone there?

This is starting to somewhat remind me of Taylor Behl and Ben Fawley - with the strangulation during sex, Sick b******


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 06:56:27 PM
Giordano was divorced from his ex-wife in 2008 "amid allegations of domestic violence," during which she obtained a restraining order, according to court records. At least one other woman sought a similar order of protection against him. He also had several arrests on his record for thefts under $500. Giordano "emphatically denies" any wrongdoing, according to a statement issued by his lawyer.


I knew about the domestic violence charges, but now theft - shady character -

Thanks festa

I hope Aruba learned a lesson in the Natalee Holloway case.  If Joran van der Sloot had been held accountable by the Aruban/Dutch justice system a young lady by the name of Stephany Flores would ... at this point in time ... be persuing her dreams.

It appears that the writing was on the wall in regards to what happened to Robyn Gardner.  Gary Giordano's history implies that women were at risk ... it was just a matter of time.

Janet

 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 07:01:18 PM



The prosecutor would not disclose the specific doubts, fearing it could undermine the investigation, but one of them is fairly basic: So far, there are no witnesses who saw the couple go snorkeling in the late afternoon on the wind-swept southern tip of Aruba. "We only have his story on that," Stein said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44090650/ns/world_news-americas/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 07:08:31 PM
Beth Holloway comprehends perfectly the overwhelming emotions of Robyn Gardner’s mother as she deals alone with a justice system that places what is perceived as the best interest of its tourist industry over a victim.

+++++++

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 55
: Last night’s meeting with the DEA agent would be the last time we would see him. I was told he was just on the island “on vacation,” but considering his line of work, I have to wonder about that. Even wonder if the name he gave us was really his. None of that matters. I’m just thankful he was here when he was to help us get the ball rolling by directing us to go to Carlos ‘n Charlie’s, and helping us with the encounter in the van der Sloot front yard. But now we’re alone, politically and law enforcement-wise. Even though we’ve met Homeland Security and DEA representatives, there‘s nothing they can do for us. There’s no U.S. consular office here. No State Department representative. No FBI agent. We’re on our own.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 07:09:33 PM
Why did it take almost a week for the disappearance of Robyn Gardner to come to the attention of the media? Why was Gary Giordano initially given permission to return to the States?

Could it be that Aruba was again attempting to sweep the disappearance of an American on the Happy Island under the proverbial rug?

++++++

ARUBA: THE TRAGIC UNTOLD STORY OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND CORRUPTION IN PARADISE
By Dave Holloway

It was June 1, 2005, our first evening in Aruba, my daughter was missing and a detective was telling us to go to a local bar and have a beer. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. He said it was the hot spot for vacationing kids. "Maybe she will show up." In fact, he was so confident that she was just partying it up or on drugs that he told us this particular bar would be the best place to find her.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 07:10:31 PM
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

August 6, 2010

Front Page

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 07:11:33 PM



The prosecutor would not disclose the specific doubts, fearing it could undermine the investigation, but one of them is fairly basic: So far, there are no witnesses who saw the couple go snorkeling in the late afternoon on the wind-swept southern tip of Aruba. "We only have his story on that," Stein said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44090650/ns/world_news-americas/

My bet is because it didn't happen.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 07:14:52 PM
Again, did this guy have a rental car?  I'm really starting to think based on his priors, that he did something to her, Again, early in the morning 8/2 and got rid of her body, not calling the police until 6pm - but he would need something to transport her -  I'm starting to think he just said they were at Baby Beach because like I said before, I don't think people are generally there at that time and he figured no one could dispute his story -  Did he travel to Aruba a lot? Does he know anyone there?

This is starting to somewhat remind me of Taylor Behl and Ben Fawley - with the strangulation during sex, Sick b******

I've asked the same questions, and I also wonder if he knew her ex husband Kenneth Gardner.  Robyn and the ex husband have a court mediation and hearing set later this year.  The case was about modifying alimony, and settlement of the marital property.  The divorce was final in 2009, so this has been going on for a while.

And remember, she lost her job two weeks ago. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 07:16:47 PM
I think she actually lost her job two weeks before she went to Aruba, instead of "two weeks ago".  Since she's been missing over a week now, that would be three weeks ago.

Sorry about that. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 07:28:45 PM



The prosecutor would not disclose the specific doubts, fearing it could undermine the investigation, but one of them is fairly basic: So far, there are no witnesses who saw the couple go snorkeling in the late afternoon on the wind-swept southern tip of Aruba. "We only have his story on that," Stein said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44090650/ns/world_news-americas/




My bet is because it didn't happen.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Yup, he's lying - again, my bet he did something to her late Monday night, Tuesday morning after 2am, waited till 6pm to notify police after he got rid of all the evidence.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 10, 2011, 07:44:33 PM
http://www.gazette.net/article/20110809/NEWS/708099961/1016/1016/brother-search-still-on-for-missing-woman-in-aruba&template=gazette

Brother: Search still on for missing woman in Aruba
Claim contradicts boyfriend's statement that authorities have stopped looking for Frederick woman
by Jen Bondeson, Staff Writer 
This story was updated at 6:30 p.m. Aug. 10, 2011.

There are mixed reports as to whether Aruban authorities have called off the search for Robyn Gardner of Frederick, 35, who went missing eight days ago on the Caribbean island.

Richard Forester of Bethesda, Gardner's boyfriend, was told by Aruban authorities that the search was called off, he said today.

But Andrew Cohen, Gardner's brother, said today that he and his parents have been in contact with authorities and the search continues. Special Agent Richard Wolf, an FBI spokesman, said today he was not aware of the Aruban authorities calling off the search.

Gardner is a very warm, loving and caring person, Cohen said.

“My gut feeling is that she is still out there somewhere,” he said.

A spokesperson for the Aruban prosecutor's office did not return a phone call to confirm the status of the investigation Wednesday night.

Forester said that he may go to Aruba next week to look for Forester said that he may go to Aruba next week to look for Gardner if the search does not continue.

Wolf said that the FBI has been assisting the Aruban police force with the case.

The Aruban police force wrote the FBI a letter and asked for assistance. The FBI will not open its own investigation, but rather offer assistance, he said.

Wolf thinks all of the FBI's interviews will be with people in the United States, but was not sure and denied to give further details
 
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 07:48:56 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

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Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba

Robyn,

I wish we could tell everyone about how special and full of love you are. I wish everyone would focus less on Aruba and the details of your disappearance. I hope people will learn about the determined, caring, and loving person you are. I hope you understand that we must remain quiet in order not to jeopardize authorities from finding you. The FBI and Interpol are heavily involved in your search. Please make a sign to point them to you and come home!

Love,
Your little "big" brother
3 hours ago · Share

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 07:50:25 PM
Robyn Gardner Missing: Search For Maryland Woman In Aruba Called Off, According To Boyfriend


"I've heard the search has been called off," Forester said.

The 41-year-old man claims he has received word that the FBI and Interpol will pick up the search and investigation, but the FBI did not immediately respond to inquiries from The Huffington Post.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/10/robyn-gardner-search_n_923749.html#s326253&title=Robyn_Gardner




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 07:50:46 PM
Typical of Aruba IMO, always mixed messages!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
Beth Holloway will be Nancy Grace's guest this evening.

Janet

+++++

Missing in Aruba Suspect's Lawyer Says 'There's No Proof'
Aug. 10, 2011


The Natalee Holloway Resource Center, a foundation started after Holloway's disappearance, has been offering help to Gardner's boyfriend, Richard Forester.

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Video:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-missing-aruba-natalee-holloways-mother/story?id=14271819


Five minutes to go!!

Janet
4:55 PM PT


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 08:45:18 PM
Aruba prosecutor: Too many holes in US man's account of friend lost while snorkeling

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The prosecutor would not disclose the specific doubts, fearing it could undermine the investigation, but one of them is fairly basic: So far, there are no witnesses who saw the couple go snorkeling in the late afternoon on the wind-swept southern tip of Aruba. "We only have his story on that," Stein said.

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Stein said police have the woman's computer, which they are considering sending to the Netherlands for analysis, and the couple's rental car but no physical evidence of a crime. All they have is the fact that the woman is missing and nagging doubts about Giordano's explanation.

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The judge's pretrial detention order expires Monday. Prosecutors can ask for an extension but will have to present evidence to justify continuing to hold him, Stein said.

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http://www.newser.com/article/d9p1hfp80/aruba-prosecutor-too-many-holes-in-us-mans-account-of-friend-lost-while-snorkeling.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 09:17:45 PM
Gary Giordano of Gaithersburg, held in Aruba, was accused by two women of abuse
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In one case, a former girlfriend alleged that the man, Gary Giordano, stalked her, secretly videotaped them having sex and then posted pornographic images of her on the Internet, according to files in Montgomery County District Court. The woman sought and was granted a restraining order, court records show. No criminal charges were filed.

“She was scared to death of this man,” said the woman’s attorney, Gail Landau. “She thought he was capable of great anger and violence.”

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Giordano was not criminally charged in Montgomery County, and the allegations by two women were made in civil cases. In each case, Giordano filed allegations of his own, asserting that a former girlfriend harassed him by distributing slanderous letters and that his then-wife hit him in the upper back with a 14-inch steel cooking spoon.

The most recent allegation of abuse against Giordano was filed Feb. 4 last year. The woman had met Giordano on the Internet about six months earlier, said Landau, the attorney.

The relationship turned sour when the woman found out that Giordano had secretly filmed the two having sex and posted intimate images of her on the Internet, Landau said in court filings in connection with the woman’s request for a restraining order. The woman confronted Giordano, who responded by placing photos of her inside the mailboxes of about five of her neighbors, Landau said.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/gary-giordano-of-gaithersburg-held-in-aruba-was-accused-by-two-women-of-abuse/2011/08/10/gIQAbhxN7I_story.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 09:32:18 PM



The prosecutor would not disclose the specific doubts, fearing it could undermine the investigation, but one of them is fairly basic: So far, there are no witnesses who saw the couple go snorkeling in the late afternoon on the wind-swept southern tip of Aruba. "We only have his story on that," Stein said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44090650/ns/world_news-americas/




My bet is because it didn't happen.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Yup, he's lying - again, my bet he did something to her late Monday night, Tuesday morning after 2am, waited till 6pm to notify police after he got rid of all the evidence.

Don't know how true it is, but they were supposedly seen in the JADS Dive Center on the day she disappeared.  On NG it was said that they had lunch at the restaurant connected to JADS.  The employees from JADS thought it was odd that they claimed to be snorkeling where Giardano claims they were.  They said it wasn't a place where people usually go for that.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 09:32:35 PM
Missing Woman Going Through Tough Time: Roommate
FBI picks up water search

Robyn Gardner, 35, had recently lost her job and was in a rocky relationship with her on-and-off boyfriend, Christina Jones. That’s why she went on vacation with another man, 50-year-old Gary Giordano, who Aruban authorities consider a suspect in the disappearance.

“She sat in this chair, I did her hair, she said she was going to Aruba,” Jones said. “I asked her with who, and she said Gary, and I wasn’t very excited about it.”

Jones said Gardner was supposed to go away with Giordano on a cruise about two months ago but changed her mind at the last minute.

“I’ll just say that the way that he dealt with it was not kind-hearted or understanding,” Jones said.


http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Missing-Woman-Going-Through-Tough-Time-Roommate-127495038.html



Gut feeling, Giordano saw the facebook post, This sucks, or at least knew she wasn't having a good time, and something happened after an argument.  Guy seems like he is a ticking time bomb that's already gone off a few times....


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 10, 2011, 09:35:46 PM
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Another woman who dated Giordano, Jeanette Farago, said in an interview with The Washington Post that Giordano also stalked and harassed her while they both lived in Montgomery County. At one point, Farago said, Giordano offered to take her on a two-week cruise and bought her a ticket, but she refused to go. Giordano also showed up outside her window wearing a deer mask and illuminated his face with a cigarette lighter, she said. “He was just really creepy and scary,” Farago said. “He scared the bejesus out of me.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/gary-giordano-of-gaithersburg-held-in-aruba-was-accused-by-two-women-of-abuse/2011/08/10/gIQAbhxN7I_story.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 09:37:03 PM



The prosecutor would not disclose the specific doubts, fearing it could undermine the investigation, but one of them is fairly basic: So far, there are no witnesses who saw the couple go snorkeling in the late afternoon on the wind-swept southern tip of Aruba. "We only have his story on that," Stein said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44090650/ns/world_news-americas/




My bet is because it didn't happen.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Yup, he's lying - again, my bet he did something to her late Monday night, Tuesday morning after 2am, waited till 6pm to notify police after he got rid of all the evidence.

Don't know how true it is, but they were supposedly seen in the JADS Dive Center on the day she disappeared.  On NG it was said that they had lunch at the restaurant connected to JADS.  The employees from JADS thought it was odd that they claimed to be snorkeling where Giardano claims they were.  They said it wasn't a place where people usually go for that.


Thanks for that info - with the multiple media there always seems to be mixed info - but my theory doesn't hold since she was seen that day at lunch -


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 10:16:50 PM
It was also reported on NG that computers and/or smartphones were sent to Curacao for investigation.  They may eventually also be sent to the Netherlands.

Color me jaded...I don't care.  I have absolutely no confidence in the Aruban authorities; and feel the same way about the authorities in Curacao.  Remember Amy Bradley?  Remember James Edward Hogan?

Human trafficking is alive and well on these islands, and until Robyn is found that will be a strong possibility in my mind.  Remember Amy Bradley?  If Giordano was posting pornographic pictures of another girlfriend, he could have been doing the same with Robyn.  If he's into that kind of stuff who knows how far he would go.  He may have cooked the whole trip up to get her to a place where she could disappear and American law enforcement would be shut out as usual.  Everyone knows after Natalee's case that in Aruba WHEN THERE IS NO BODY, THERE IS NO CASE!

Curacao, Venezuela, and Colombia are all very close to Aruba, along with Margarita Island to name a few.  All possibilities of where she could be by now IF Giordano handed her off to someone.  She could have already have arrived on at least two of them before he ever reported her missing.

It seems like I remember posting at least one article where drugs were brought in by boat in that area.  I'll look for it.

The islands and the Netherlands work together with the US authorities when it comes to drugs, why do they shut out the U. S. law enforcement when our citizens go missing on these islands?  It's just not right!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.amigoe.com/english/78651-aruba-is-making-more-effort-but-could-improve

‘Aruba is making more effort, but could improve’         

WEDNESDAY, 29 JUNE 2011 12:54

ORANJESTAD — From the report Trafficking in Persons (TIP) of the American government announced yesterday, it appears that Aruba is placed on list ‘TIER 2’. This means our country is not complying entirely with the guidelines of the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act (TVPA) although the necessary effort is made.
 ::snipping2::
In 2009, Aruba, Curaçao and St. Maarten were mentioned in that report as transit harbor and final destination of routes for human trafficking and slave running, namely on forced labor and prostitution. The report indicated the specific recommendation to improve the penalization of human trafficking and slave running. According to the report 2010, insufficient efforts were made.
 ::snipping2::
Aruba makes more effort
184 countries were evaluated this year on compliance of the guidelines against human trafficking. “The largest number ever included in the report,” says CdeBaca. Countries not complying with the rules run the risk of sanctions by the American government, for instance withdrawal of foreign aid. Compared to Curaçao for example, Aruba is making more effort. In the report, our neighboring island is included on the ‘TIER 2 watchlist’, meaning one has observed a ‘significant number’ or a ‘significant increase’ of the number of human trafficking and slave running victims on Curaçao. Moreover, according to the report, Curaçao was unable to prove the country is doing their utmost to combat human trafficking compared to last year or that the country has plans to take measures in following the guidelines next year.
 ::snipping2::

You can read the report here:

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2011/index.htm

Read about Aruba and Curacao here:

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2011/164231.htm


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 10, 2011, 10:24:11 PM
Missing Woman Going Through Tough Time: Roommate
FBI picks up water search

Robyn Gardner, 35, had recently lost her job and was in a rocky relationship with her on-and-off boyfriend, Christina Jones. That’s why she went on vacation with another man, 50-year-old Gary Giordano, who Aruban authorities consider a suspect in the disappearance.

“She sat in this chair, I did her hair, she said she was going to Aruba,” Jones said. “I asked her with who, and she said Gary, and I wasn’t very excited about it.”

Jones said Gardner was supposed to go away with Giordano on a cruise about two months ago but changed her mind at the last minute.

“I’ll just say that the way that he dealt with it was not kind-hearted or understanding,” Jones said.


http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Missing-Woman-Going-Through-Tough-Time-Roommate-127495038.html



Gut feeling, Giordano saw the facebook post, This sucks, or at least knew she wasn't having a good time, and something happened after an argument.  Guy seems like he is a ticking time bomb that's already gone off a few times....

What facebook post?

Thanks

Janet

++++


With video--her boyfriend.  Sad.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-frederick-woman-missing-in-aruba-64854.html

Robyn Gardner, Bethesda woman missing in Aruba
August 8, 2011 - 07:20 pm

The 35-year-old vivacious woman hasn’t been heard form in six days. She was last seen Tuesday, Aug. 2, at the Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino in Oranjestad, Aruba.

Gardner, who lived and worked in Bethesda, left for Aruba on July 31st. Richard Forester says they had been dating for two and a half years, but quarreled before she left. He received his last e-mail from Gardner Tuesday, three hours before she was reported missing.

“The last message I got from her was ‘I love you,’” Forester said. “We will talk and sort things out when I get back,” Gardner wrote.

Forester thought Gardner went with a friend, but now believes she had a romantic relationship with her companion. The man notified Aruban authorities Gardner was missing. He said a current pulled her out to sea while snorkeling, according to an account in a local newspaper.

“I just don't think she was snorkeling. I think something has happened at this person's hand,” Forester alleges.

The intense search for Gardner bears some similarities to the 2005 disappearance of teenager Natalee Holloway. She never made it back to her plane to leave after a vacation on the island, and her body was never found.

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 10:53:51 PM
This is the link to Facebook quote:

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=864&sid=2489190#counter




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 10:58:59 PM
She posted, This sucks on Facebook at 2:05am to which Richard Forester (her boyfriend back home) replied at 7:57am ??Inbox Me

and then at 10:47am - Where are you baby?

He was already worried hours before she went missing.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:09:00 PM
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-missing-active-search-called-off-by-aruban-authorities-64945.html

Video

At the end the reporter says that Robyn's mother is back from Aruba after going there to meet with authorities.  She will speak with the press sometime tomorrow from Florida.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:25:46 PM
http://www.24ora.com/politica-mainmenu-18/35287-ministro-di-turismo-den-caso-mericano-perdi-no-ta-na-interes-di-aruba-crea-speculacion-y-lanta-sensacionalismo-.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.PERSONAHE.otmar002.JPG)

ministro of turism in caso mericano perdi: do not at interest of aruba crea speculacion y arise sensacionalismo

wednesday, 10 august 2011 21:53

we owing to acerca ministro of turism otmar oduber, tocante the caso of the tourist mericano female cu is perdi, y cu apparently not owing to leave for of lama after cu past owing to bay swim together cu his amigo, in baby beach. oduber owing to menciona cu have one palabracion cu ministerio publico will atende cu the caso here, for thing is deal informacion internacional, y the various ministernan owing to acorda cu they're atene at the palabracion here.

much question is come of afo, the mandatario owing to tell, because the caso owing to achieve atencion of prensa internacional for of cu the news owing to leave publica. provided that todo caso ministerio publico will saca one declaracion for prensa on kico owing to acontece, the mandatario owing to give of conoce. the is achieve cu this is the best form for evita damage on the name of aruba, if one sun fountain cu have informacion more veridico difundi this, y this is ministerio publico, cu alavez have cu follow investiga the caso y informa local y internacionalmente kico is the pasonan cu we autoridadnan is tumando. the mandatario owing to tell cu in exterior, the oficinanan cu is representa behold is pendiente of the caso y they have they pr already cu the sector turism is much important for we island, y although the caso here not have of haber cu turism, tog is one tourist cu owing to visit we island.

the informacion cu ministerio publico will divulga will wordo send also for her oficinanan of behold pafo of aruba, y they also can happen esakinan for prensa internacional. ministro of turism owing to show cu do not at interest of aruba for genera speculacion, neither crea sensacionalismo in the caso here, cu is full various at esun cu in pasado owing to capta tanto atencion y polemica at internacionalmente y assure at merca. past owing to agrega cu gobierno have one proyecto for mehora the informacion, dentro of the contexto of producto turistico aruba, for locual have fondonan, y will bay place ad in all area cu can is one reto for her landado cu not conoce, as esun of baby beach, cu is conoci cu several person owing to hoga.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:27:19 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_ProfilePic-1.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 11:30:18 PM
Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein said no witnesses have come forward to say they saw Gardner and Gary Giordano snorkeling off Baby Beach. Witnesses have said they saw the couple on the beach.

Authorities have impounded a rental car and electronic devices in Giordano's possession, Stein said.




http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/10/aruba.missing.woman/


I previously posted that I was curious as to how they got to Baby Beach (like I've said I've been traveling to Aruba for about 15 years) so apparently they did rent a vehicle -
It will be interesting to see what if anything was found in that rental car.  I'm also curious as to what time people saw them on the beach.  Were that many people just going in to snorkel at 6pm? or where they seen much earlier like after lunch


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:30:41 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35286-fbi-lo-tin-un-rol-den-e-investigacion-di-desaparicion-di-robyn-gardner-.html

fbi will have one rol in the investigacion of desaparicion of robyn gardner

wednesday, 10 august 2011 22:05

fuentenan much serca of the investigacion on the desaparicion of the lady mericano robyn gardner owing to give of conoce cu contacto owing to wordo take cu the agencia of investigacion fbi. what the rol of fbi will bay is do not conoci at the momentonan here. both person envolvi in the caso here esta the victima y the sospechoso is of nacionalidad americano. come across


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:33:09 PM
Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein said no witnesses have come forward to say they saw Gardner and Gary Giordano snorkeling off Baby Beach. Witnesses have said they saw the couple on the beach.

Authorities have impounded a rental car and electronic devices in Giordano's possession, Stein said.




http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/10/aruba.missing.woman/


I previously posted that I was curious as to how they got to Baby Beach (like I've said I've been traveling to Aruba for about 15 years) so apparently they did rent a vehicle -
It will be interesting to see what if anything was found in that rental car.  I'm also curious as to what time people saw them on the beach.  Were that many people just going in to snorkel at 6pm? or where they seen much earlier like after lunch

They talked a little about the rental car on Nancy Grace as well tonight.  Nothing found in it so far, but I don't remember if they were finished with it or not.

My understanding is that they were seen earlier in the day, had lunch in the restaurant connected to the JADS Dive Center.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 10, 2011, 11:38:33 PM
Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein said no witnesses have come forward to say they saw Gardner and Gary Giordano snorkeling off Baby Beach. Witnesses have said they saw the couple on the beach.

Authorities have impounded a rental car and electronic devices in Giordano's possession, Stein said.




http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/10/aruba.missing.woman/


I previously posted that I was curious as to how they got to Baby Beach (like I've said I've been traveling to Aruba for about 15 years) so apparently they did rent a vehicle -
It will be interesting to see what if anything was found in that rental car.  I'm also curious as to what time people saw them on the beach.  Were that many people just going in to snorkel at 6pm? or where they seen much earlier like after lunch

They talked a little about the rental car on Nancy Grace as well tonight.  Nothing found in it so far, but I don't remember if they were finished with it or not.

My understanding is that they were seen earlier in the day, had lunch in the restaurant connected to the JADS Dive Center.


That's what I'm thinking, was she seen after that lunch? or was that the last sighting?  and what time exactly was lunch? 12?  why would they wait til 6pm to snorkel then? 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:39:44 PM
From what Robyn's friend and roommate said in the video I posted a link to, Gary was mad when Robyn didn't join him for the cruise, and that's why she was concerned and/or wondered why she was going with him to Aruba.  Maybe he'd been planning something bad happening all along?!

The friend said he was "eccentric"...she didn't get a good vibe about him.

She also said Robyn spent the night at her own apartment (that she shared with this female roommate) the night before she left for Aruba.  Before that she'd spent most of her time at her boyfriend's place.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 10, 2011, 11:42:34 PM
Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein said no witnesses have come forward to say they saw Gardner and Gary Giordano snorkeling off Baby Beach. Witnesses have said they saw the couple on the beach.

Authorities have impounded a rental car and electronic devices in Giordano's possession, Stein said.




http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/10/aruba.missing.woman/


I previously posted that I was curious as to how they got to Baby Beach (like I've said I've been traveling to Aruba for about 15 years) so apparently they did rent a vehicle -
It will be interesting to see what if anything was found in that rental car.  I'm also curious as to what time people saw them on the beach.  Were that many people just going in to snorkel at 6pm? or where they seen much earlier like after lunch

They talked a little about the rental car on Nancy Grace as well tonight.  Nothing found in it so far, but I don't remember if they were finished with it or not.

My understanding is that they were seen earlier in the day, had lunch in the restaurant connected to the JADS Dive Center.

Also, on Nancy Grace, the boyfriend said that he received the last message (love you; will work it out) at 2 p.m. on the day that she went missing.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:42:56 PM
Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein said no witnesses have come forward to say they saw Gardner and Gary Giordano snorkeling off Baby Beach. Witnesses have said they saw the couple on the beach.

Authorities have impounded a rental car and electronic devices in Giordano's possession, Stein said.




http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/10/aruba.missing.woman/


I previously posted that I was curious as to how they got to Baby Beach (like I've said I've been traveling to Aruba for about 15 years) so apparently they did rent a vehicle -
It will be interesting to see what if anything was found in that rental car.  I'm also curious as to what time people saw them on the beach.  Were that many people just going in to snorkel at 6pm? or where they seen much earlier like after lunch

They talked a little about the rental car on Nancy Grace as well tonight.  Nothing found in it so far, but I don't remember if they were finished with it or not.

My understanding is that they were seen earlier in the day, had lunch in the restaurant connected to the JADS Dive Center.


That's what I'm thinking, was she seen after that lunch? or was that the last sighting?  and what time exactly was lunch? 12?  why would they wait til 6pm to snorkel then? 

I don't think they were specific about the time.  My thinking is he waited until a lot of the people had gone home from the beach areas (where they may have been seen) to SAY that's when they went.  From what her brother and her boyfriend have stated, I don't think she went snorkeling at all.  They did say that Gary had his own snorkeling equipment that he brought with him, but there has been no sign of any equipment that would have belonged to Robyn.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:47:20 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35283-crew-di-cnn-a-yega-aruba-diaranson.html

Papiamentu translation:

crew of cnn owing to arrive aruba diaranson

wednesday, 10 august 2011 21:28

diaranson owing to arrive aruba for of merca one crew of television of the canal of television cnn. is deal here of one equipo cu the presentador martin savage. martin savage was at aruba in pasado end for representa cnn. diaranson nightfall self they owing to transmiti bibo for of fast of office of ministerio publico. they're declaration of policy for stay aruba till cu monday proximo. all this can change dependiendo of con the caso sigi the dianan we fast. not will exclui cu another canalnan will send they repoteriornan aruba.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug10.mercano.DSC_4185Copy.JPG)

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug10.mercano.DSC_4189.JPG)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 10, 2011, 11:48:14 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ng.01.html

NANCY GRACE

Aruban Police Detain Missing Woman`s Companion
Aired August 10, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 10, 2011, 11:51:30 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35282-autoridad-concerni-di-aruba-a-haci-trabao-extensivo-di-investigacion-aunke-sin-resultado-positivo.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.PERSONAHE.arthur0813.JPG)

autoridad concerni of aruba owing to haci trabao extensivo of investigacion although without result positive

wednesday, 10 august 2011 20:33

in one interview teni cu ministro mr. drs. arthur dowers, we owing to puntre on the caso cu have andando, relaciona cu desaparicion of one lady mericano y detencion of his amigo, because; posible sospechoso cu algo not good will owing to sosode. ministro dowers owing to tell we cu owing to stay word cu the informacion for prensa internacional will wordo give for advocate general sr. stijn, because is important for her informacion tecnico, cu is bay pafo leave more consistente posible.

for thing is deal the investigacion, the mandatario owing to tell good cla cu police, openbaar ministerie neither ministro of husticia is give informacion of the contenido of the caso, for not stroba the proceso, first cu concreta the investigacion. ministro dowers owing to constata, personalmente y in the sitio, cu tanto police on ground because; police maritimo, kustwacht of aruba, the netherlands y antiyas, because; also keep we costa y helicopter of police owing to haci one trabao of investigacion of oranan largo, without result positive till now, y past owing to let know cu barely have informacion new, will divulga this for prensa.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 11, 2011, 12:09:15 AM
Sooo...did he go to check out the location on Monday and came back on Tuesday?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Quote

MARK-BENSON DENZ, "ARUBA HERALD" CEO (via telephone): Well, good evening, Nancy, and to your viewers. Well, we are learning that it`s a bit strange, that there are reports that they wanted to go snorkeling, which is what Gary says, the first day after their arrival, which was Monday. And they said they went to Baby Beach, but they did not go to snorkel. And so they returned the second day.

So it was as if Gary wanted to see the area first and then go into the water, as he says. But as you said, there are no persons that confirm seeing them in the water. There are persons confirming to seeing them on the beach, in the area, but not in the water.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ng.01.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 12:09:40 AM
Dr. Drew has Beth Holloway on the phone, Joe Tacopina in New York, Richard Forester on the phone...

This is the replay...I doubt I'll stay awake for all of it.

Richard said they were supposed to be looking for a place to live together this weekend.  Their relationship had been "exclusive" since about January of this year.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 12:10:40 AM
Sooo...did he go to check out the location on Monday and came back on Tuesday?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Quote

MARK-BENSON DENZ, "ARUBA HERALD" CEO (via telephone): Well, good evening, Nancy, and to your viewers. Well, we are learning that it`s a bit strange, that there are reports that they wanted to go snorkeling, which is what Gary says, the first day after their arrival, which was Monday. And they said they went to Baby Beach, but they did not go to snorkel. And so they returned the second day.

So it was as if Gary wanted to see the area first and then go into the water, as he says. But as you said, there are no persons that confirm seeing them in the water. There are persons confirming to seeing them on the beach, in the area, but not in the water.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ng.01.html


That's what I think he was doing.  Was he looking for landmarks that he'd been told to look for to meet at later is what I've been wondering?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 12:24:40 AM
Dr. Drew has Beth Holloway on the phone, Joe Tacopina in New York, Richard Forester on the phone...

This is the replay...I doubt I'll stay awake for all of it.

Richard said they were supposed to be looking for a place to live together this weekend.  Their relationship had been "exclusive" since about January of this year.

Martin Savage (CNN) just said they would be going over the rental car, but he's not sure if they have the forensic capabilities they need there, so it may have to be sent to Curacao or the Netherlands.

Tacopina sounds like he wants to be Gary's lawyer.   ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: melisb on August 11, 2011, 08:34:27 AM
Dr. Drew has Beth Holloway on the phone, Joe Tacopina in New York, Richard Forester on the phone...

This is the replay...I doubt I'll stay awake for all of it.

Richard said they were supposed to be looking for a place to live together this weekend.  Their relationship had been "exclusive" since about January of this year.

Well, we know for certain he didn't know all he needed to about his 'exclusive' relationship with his girlfriend.  If her roommate is to be believed then Robyn spent the weekend before she left with the main boyfriend.  What made her leave him and go to Aruba with this looser?  Was he trowing a ton of money at her supposedly just to get her down there?  Did she have some life long burning desire to go to Aruba and need to go right then?  If he's only a 'friend' why not tell your bf where you are going?  Very strange relationship all the way around but in the big picture it doesn't really matter!  I feel he did something to her and hopefully the rental care will tell something or maybe the phones will have text of an argument on them or at least some kind of timeline for us to go on.  Her poor Mother.  Poor Beth, kinda living it all over again, how painful for her.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 11, 2011, 09:07:35 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/In%20the%20News/missinginaruba.jpg)

I bet this is not the picture he used to get her to go to Aruba. He must have used  a older picture the one NG had on last night. She must have gotten sick when she saw him   just saying


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 09:21:14 AM
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-missing-active-search-called-off-by-aruban-authorities-64945.html

 ::snipping2::

Jones says Gardner spent Saturday night at her house before jetting off the next day to Aruba with Giordano. Jones says Gardner and Giordano knew each other for about a year. She describes the 50-year-old man Gardner met online as eccentric.

“You kind of get a vibe from someone if they have someone good or not great in their life and I just didn't get that vibe,” she said.

Giordano offered to take Gardner on a cruise a couple of months ago, her friend said. When she declined, Giordano wasn't happy. "How he reacted about the cruise is the reason why I was worried about why she was going to be going to Aruba," Jones said.

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 11, 2011, 09:42:18 AM
Does anyone have that younger picture that Gary Giordano used the one NG had on last night?
In that picture he kind of looks like her boyfriend she left at home  just saying..


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cadillac on August 11, 2011, 10:22:18 AM
Hmmm...let's see...online hook-ups...troubled relationship with boyfriend...Aruba, of all places...alone in Aruba with the hook-up...hook-up has anger management issues...hook-up likes to video sex acts...hookup likes to do the strangulation act during the sex acts...unrelaible police force in Aruba, that is well known...where better to take someone and have them disappear?

Prayers for Robyn's family.  I meant no hurt in what I said above, we just need to teach our daughters/sisters/girlfriends to be more cautious.  To be more aware of signals.  Lots of lessons to be learned here. 

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 10:32:21 AM
Read more: http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Mother-hopes-woman-missing-in-Aruba-will-be-found-1853785.php#ixzz1UjLOiDwB


Mother hopes woman missing in Aruba will be found

DAVID DISHNEAU, Associated Press

Updated 08:16 a.m., Thursday, August 11, 2011


FREDERICK, Md. (AP) — The mother of a woman who disappeared during a trip to Aruba says the family is hoping for the best outcome and praying she'll be with them soon.

In a statement released by the Natalee Holloway Resource Center, Robyn Gardner's mother, Andrea Colson, also expressed gratitude to Aruban authorities and volunteers who are working above and beyond their expectations.

 ::snipping2::


The case is reminiscent of the still-unsolved disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway during a high school class trip to the island in 2005. Her remains were never found.




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 11, 2011, 10:33:08 AM
Good morning monkeys!

Does anyone know if Robyn was married before? If so, was she married to Kenneth Gray Gardner, Jr.? If not, are they related?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 11, 2011, 10:34:22 AM
Also, when Robyn lived in Tampa, what was her occupation?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 10:44:32 AM
Good morning monkeys!

Does anyone know if Robyn was married before? If so, was she married to Kenneth Gray Gardner, Jr.? If not, are they related?

I'm not where I can look at what I have saved, but I believe that is her ex husband who she is scheduled for mediation and a court date later this year.  The divorce case was reopened in Feb of this year, to modify alimony and settlement of marital property.  I believe there were also some domestic violence issues with them.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
Good morning monkeys!

Does anyone know if Robyn was married before? If so, was she married to Kenneth Gray Gardner, Jr.? If not, are they related?

I'm not where I can look at what I have saved, but I believe that is her ex husband who she is scheduled for mediation and a court date later this year.  The divorce case was reopened in Feb of this year, to modify alimony and settlement of marital property.  I believe there were also some domestic violence issues with them.

They were divorced in 2009.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 11, 2011, 10:57:56 AM
Good morning monkeys!

Does anyone know if Robyn was married before? If so, was she married to Kenneth Gray Gardner, Jr.? If not, are they related?

I'm not where I can look at what I have saved, but I believe that is her ex husband who she is scheduled for mediation and a court date later this year.  The divorce case was reopened in Feb of this year, to modify alimony and settlement of marital property.  I believe there were also some domestic violence issues with them.

Thank you sugarplum! I just read back to what I missed last night. I feel so lazy now! Shoulda known the answer would already be here!

Do you know if their papers were filed in Florida or in Maryland?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 11:27:10 AM
Good morning monkeys!

Does anyone know if Robyn was married before? If so, was she married to Kenneth Gray Gardner, Jr.? If not, are they related?

I'm not where I can look at what I have saved, but I believe that is her ex husband who she is scheduled for mediation and a court date later this year.  The divorce case was reopened in Feb of this year, to modify alimony and settlement of marital property.  I believe there were also some domestic violence issues with them.

Maryland

Thank you sugarplum! I just read back to what I missed last night. I feel so lazy now! Shoulda known the answer would already be here!

Do you know if their papers were filed in Florida or in Maryland?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 11:27:34 AM
oops...got in your box

Maryland


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 11, 2011, 11:43:33 AM
DR. DREW
Maryland Woman Missing in Aruba
Aired August 10, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

PINSKY: ... How is your organization, the Natalee Holloway Resource Center, getting involved in this case?

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S MOTHER: Well, first of all, Richard made the call to the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on August the 8th, which was a great move on his part. We were able to immediately pull together some photos that Richard had given us.

And the biggest asset of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center is that we provide is we send out the media release. And as we al know, media is essential in helping to solicit tips and eyewitnesses. So we got that ball rolling through Richard`s efforts.

PINSKY: And Beth, I must say, it has to bring up all of those old feelings, even just seeing what Richard is going through. Have you been in contact with her family?

HOLLOWAY: I have not been in contact with Robyn`s family. And Richard has been communicating with the staff at the Natalee Holloway Resource Center. So we have just been -- I have just been working with the staff there to coordinate.

PINSKY: Has her family been involved with this?

HOLLOWAY: Her family has -- they have not -- no one at the Natalee Holloway Resource Center has spoken to Robyn`s family. I believe the only two people they have spoken to are the cousin and Richard himself.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ddhln.01.html

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Website:
Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Facebook:
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
Now that we know he did indeed have a rental car, do we know if they have conducted searches on the east coast side of island. That's the area that has really rough water, there are also caves on this side.  Do we know if Giordano has been to Aruba before and may know some of these areas.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 11, 2011, 01:23:12 PM
FREDERICK, Md. (WUSA) -- Wednesday, Aruban authorities called off the search for 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. She disappeared while snorkeling, according to her traveling companion, Gary Giordano.

Robyn Gardner, 35, was reported missing in Aruba last week, say officials with the Natalee Holloway Resource Center. Gardner was last seen on Tuesday, August 2nd at the Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino in Oranjestad, Aruba.

Thursday, Gardner's family released this statement:  ::snipping2::

We have learned disturbing new details about Gary Giordano's past. He lives in Darnestown. His place was searched last year during an investigation of allegations of rape, assault and secret videotaping. The cases involved two other women that never went to trial. ::snipping2::

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/162086/158/Frederick-Maryland-Woman-Robyn-Gardner-Reported-Missing-In-Aruba


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 11, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
"On August 2, 2011 at about 6.23 PM (local time) 911 received notification of a possible drowning of a woman. The traveling companion of this woman, a man G.V.G. stated that they were going snorkeling behind Nanki Country Club and that at a given moment he had signaled his friend to swim back to the beach. He stated further that the woman had not reached the beach together with him and apparently had remained in the water.
The American woman in question is R.G, age 35, the man is indicated as G.V.G, age 50, also an American.

In spite of intense searches during a number of days by amongst others the surveillance department and the detective department of the Aruban Police, the Aruban Maritime Police, the Coast Guard, Search and Rescue Divers and volunteer divers of Jads and the use of two helicopters, an airplane and several boats, until now the woman has not been found in sea or on the shore." ::snipping2::

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/162086/158/Frederick-Maryland-Woman-Robyn-Gardner-Reported-Missing-In-Aruba


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 11, 2011, 01:29:16 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/In%20the%20News/storygiordanoarubamcp.jpg)
This is the picture I was talking about he looks way better here then now  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 02:19:57 PM
FREDERICK, Md. (WUSA) -- Wednesday, Aruban authorities called off the search for 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. She disappeared while snorkeling, according to her traveling companion, Gary Giordano.

Robyn Gardner, 35, was reported missing in Aruba last week, say officials with the Natalee Holloway Resource Center. Gardner was last seen on Tuesday, August 2nd at the Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino in Oranjestad, Aruba.

Thursday, Gardner's family released this statement:  ::snipping2::

We have learned disturbing new details about Gary Giordano's past. He lives in Darnestown. His place was searched last year during an investigation of allegations of rape, assault and secret videotaping. The cases involved two other women that never went to trial. ::snipping2::

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/162086/158/Frederick-Maryland-Woman-Robyn-Gardner-Reported-Missing-In-Aruba

I posted this a few pages back:

At Gary Girodano's house, a security camera on the roof keeps watch and there's a warning at the door telling all visitors that they will be video and audio recorded at all times, while visiting the property.

Giordano's apparent interest in videotaping everything is at the root of an application for a search warrant by a special investigator for Montogomery County's State's attorney signed by a judge May 5, 2010.

According to the application, the warrant was being sought in the wake of Giordano's arrest on April 22, 2010 after a woman accused him of hitting and choking her during consensual sex in the home.

In fact, investigators had a video of the entire attack. According to the application, the victim "was struck several times in the head, face buttocks and legs." She was also "digitally choked and subjected to manual strangulation during the event."



http://wusa9.com/news/article/162086/373/Details-Surface-About-Missing-Womans-Traveling-Partner


Very disturbing


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
"I'm terrified," Richard Forester said today on "Good Morning America." "I've been hearing stories about Gary Giordano, that he's quite tech-savvy and is able to manipulate people's computers and track them and follow them."
Gary Giordano, 50, is being held as a suspect in the disappearance of Forester's girlfriend, Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Md., who vanished in the same Aruba town where another American woman, Natalee Holloway, disappeared six years ago.
Giordano and Gardner traveled together to Aruba July 31, according to Aruba police.
Gardner's best friend, Christina Jones, told "GMA" the two met on the online dating site Match.com and have known each other for one year.
"It was a bit of a rollercoaster relationship friendship," Jones said.
Giordano has claimed that he and Gardner went snorkeling together around 6 p.m. on Aug. 2, but Giordano returned back to shore amid rough currents and realized Gardner had not returned to shore with him. He alerted Aruba police who searched the area with ships, helicopters and divers, but did not find any sign of Gardner.
"I don't believe she was snorkeling," Forester, also of Maryland, said today on "GMA." "I don't believe that for a second. She would be too concerned with getting her hair messed up, getting her makeup messed up. She's a margarita kind of girl, sit by the pool or on the beach and relax. I don't buy it."
Forester said that during Gardner's trip to Aruba, they kept in touch through Blackberry text messages and emails from her iPad until the day of her disappearance, including one message, in particular, that raised his alarm.
"On Tuesday morning, the 2nd of August, at about two in the morning, she posted on my Facebook wall, 'this sucks,'" he said. "I tried to figure out what was going on, but she didn't really respond. "
"The last time I heard from her was later on in the afternoon," he added. "She sent me a message saying, you know, 'I love you, we'll talk and sort things out when I get back.'"

Giordano was originally treated as a witness to a drowning and was told by police he was allowed to leave the island, according to Taco H.W. Stein, spokesperson for the Aruba prosecutor's office. However, when parts of Giordano's story did not add up, they decided to arrest him, Stein said. He was arrested Friday as he attempted to board a flight to the U.S., according to police.
Giordano's attorney in Aruba, Michael Lopez, said there is no evidence that supports a murder charge for his client.
"They suspect murder but there's no proof, to my knowledge," said Michael Lopez, Giordano's attorney in Aruba. "I don't see any proof. There's no proof and no motive."
Forester points to concerns, however, that activity in Gardner's Gmail email account in the days since her disappearance may point back to Giordano.
"On Gmail, on the chat function that shows if you're active or not, there's a green indicator light, orange if you're idle and gray if you're off," he said.

"All day Wednesday and Thursday of last week it [Gardner's account], was green, orange and gray, and this is after she'd been reported missing," he said. "So somebody was on her Gmail account, getting in there. I was trying to talk to her, but couldn't."
"He [Giordano] has a keystroke program, this is just what I'm told, and is able to hack into people's email accounts," Forester said on "GMA."

Maryland court documents show that a Gary Giordano there has a criminal record, including two orders of protection taken out by women that claimed he was violent. One was taken out by his ex-wife during their divorce proceedings.
Two women who say they dated Giordano told "Good Morning America" he was terrifying, and another woman said Giordano stalked her.
"He was like following me, stalking me, and it freaked me out," said the woman, who wished to remain anonymous.
While Forester has used the media to bring attention to the his girlfriend's disappearance, Gardner's family has remained quiet, relying largely on the Natalee Holloway Resource Center, a foundation started after Holloway's disappearance, for help.
That changed today when Gardner's mother, Andrea Colson, released her own statement explaining the family's silence.
"We are confident and very grateful to the Aruba authorities and volunteers who are working above and beyond all our expectations," the statement read in part. "I hope you understand that we are being quiet as not to jeopardize the investigation. Please continue to pray for Robin. Thank you."
The family also announced that a confidential tipline has been established through the Holloway Center.
"I hope that she is found safe and sound and comes home, but if she isn't, I hope the perpetrator is brought to justice," Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee, told ABC News. "I'd say continue the search, keep passing out fliers and passing information—tips, sources—onto the law enforcement officials there. I would encourage them to accept all media invitations. There are positive steps to finding the loved one."
Forester told "GMA" that he has no plans to travel to Aruba, as Holloway's family did, to search for Gardner, but has not ruled out the possibility.
"I haven't been very rational lately in my thought process," he said. "But, you know, it may get to a point where I feel I need to go there just to be closer and be more involved. It's not an impossibility."

http://www.whas11.com/news/Boyfriend-of-missing-woman-In-Aruba-Im-terrified-127523793.html
 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 02:33:49 PM
I wonder if Giordano had gone into her account and saw some things he didn't like prior to her disappearance - maybe even before they left for this trip - She wasn't forthcoming with Forester about Giordano, so she probably wasn't telling Giordano the whole truth regarding her relationship with Forester, but unfortunately Giordano is a loose cannon -

In addition he probably manipulated emails after her disappearance



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
Aruba Requests FBI Help in Missing Woman Case


The country has drafted a request to the FBI to ask for their help investigating the case in the U.S., according to Taco Stein, spokesperson for the prosecutor's office. Stein said they are looking for help getting information from third parties, including cell phone companies.

"Anything you have to ask a third party about must be subpoenaed," Stein said. "So we needed to ask the FBI, because only they can subpoena in the U.S."

Aruba investigators are looking to establish the pair's whereabouts and activities in the days and hours leading up to Gardner's disappearance so that they can present it to a judge on Monday in order to keep Giordano in the country longer, Stein said. Giordano has not been charged with a crime, but a judge can order him held for another eight days on suspicion, Stein said. The court appearance will be closed to the public.

The Aruba police had been in contact with the FBI and American authorities since the beginning of the investigation, Stein said, though they had not formally requested their help until now.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-requests-fbi-missing-woman-robyn-gardner-case/story?id=14279819


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cadillac on August 11, 2011, 04:01:02 PM
I bet if we contact Joran and ask him where a good place to hide a body is - he would know?  just sayin...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 04:05:35 PM

http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/fbi-aids-aruba-investigation-into-missing-american-1728107.html

"We know the spot where he said she must have drowned. We have searched there extensively and in view of the weather situation we are almost certain that the body would have come to the surface," Stein said.

He said it was also possible that Giordano had told police to search in the wrong spot.

He said there were no unusual currents on Aug. 2, when Gardner disappeared. "The water was very calm and clear ... The search took place all the way to Venezuela."



All the way to Venezuela? if I remember correctly that's about 17 miles


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 11, 2011, 04:08:59 PM
Aruba Requests FBI Help in Missing Woman Case


The country has drafted a request to the FBI to ask for their help investigating the case in the U.S., according to Taco Stein, spokesperson for the prosecutor's office. Stein said they are looking for help getting information from third parties, including cell phone companies.

"Anything you have to ask a third party about must be subpoenaed," Stein said. "So we needed to ask the FBI, because only they can subpoena in the U.S."

Aruba investigators are looking to establish the pair's whereabouts and activities in the days and hours leading up to Gardner's disappearance so that they can present it to a judge on Monday in order to keep Giordano in the country longer, Stein said. Giordano has not been charged with a crime, but a judge can order him held for another eight days on suspicion, Stein said. The court appearance will be closed to the public.

The Aruba police had been in contact with the FBI and American authorities since the beginning of the investigation, Stein said, though they had not formally requested their help until now.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-requests-fbi-missing-woman-robyn-gardner-case/story?id=14279819

Thanks Festa

Aruba will be forthright in the Robyn Gardner investigation.  Justice stands a chance of prevailing for Robyn.  Mark Giordano is not the son of a Dutch elite.  He does not have knowlege of the dirty little secrets encompassing Aruba's underground economy.

Janet

++++


Never Passed the Ball

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 184: Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 04:11:16 PM
Jones told the CBS "Early Show" that Giordano was a friend, not a boyfriend, of Gardner's and that the two had a "a bit of a roller-coaster" relationship. "Good one day, not so great the next," she said, adding she had only heard about Giordano through Gardner and never met the man herself.

http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/fbi-aids-aruba-investigation-into-missing-american-1728107.html





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 04:20:36 PM
Gardner, 35, disappeared Aug. 2 while traveling with fifty-year-old Gary Giordano, apparently her friend. Giordano said she disappeared while snorkeling, but not everyone buys this. Her roommate, Christina Jones, was suspicious of Giordano before the trip — she tells CBS, "I was not excited about her going away with Gary." She adds that Giordano had reacted oddly to a previous change of plans: "When she changed her mind, the way he responded set off a firework within my own self, so I got worried when she said she was going to leave to go to Aruba with Gary."

A woman who used to date him contacted me and told me Giordano is very technologically savvy. This woman said he'd get into a person's email account, pick up their personality and would then take on that persona.


Giordano is currently being detained for questioning in Aruba, and as it turns out, he has a history of abuse accusations. According to the Washington Post, one ex-girlfriend says he "stalked her, secretly videotaped them having sex and then posted pornographic images of her on the Internet." His ex-wife accused him of attacking their son. And then there's this story, eerily reminiscent of Jones's early misgivings about Giordano:

Another woman who dated Giordano, Jeanette Farago, said in an interview with The Washington Post that Giordano stalked and harassed her while they both lived in Montgomery County. At one point, Farago said, Giordano offered to take her on a two-week cruise and bought her a ticket, but she refused to go. Giordano also showed up outside her window wearing a deer mask and illuminated his face with a cigarette lighter, she said. "He was just really creepy and scary," Farago said. "He scared the bejesus out of me."



http://jezebel.com/5829974/facebook-gmail-may-offer-clues-to-womans-disappearance-in-aruba


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 11, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
Did Mark Giordano read/hack into Robyn Gardner email within three hourse of reporting the snorkeling incidence?  Was Mark Giordano privy to email communication between Robyn Gardner and Richard Forester?  Did a jealous rage cause the demise Robyn Gardner?

Janet

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Boyfriend of missing woman In Aruba, 'I'm terrified'
Posted on August 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM
Updated today at 12:20 PM


<snipped>

Forester points to concerns, however, that activity in Gardner's Gmail email account in the days since her disappearance may point back to Giordano.
 
"On Gmail, on the chat function that shows if you're active or not, there's a green indicator light, orange if you're idle and gray if you're off," he said.

"All day Wednesday and Thursday of last week it [Gardner's account], was green, orange and gray, and this is after she'd been reported missing," he said. "So somebody was on her Gmail account, getting in there. I was trying to talk to her, but couldn't."
 
"He [Giordano] has a keystroke program, this is just what I'm told, and is able to hack into people's email accounts," Forester said on "GMA."

<snipped>

http://www.whas11.com/news/Boyfriend-of-missing-woman-In-Aruba-Im-terrified-127523793.html


Robyn Gardner, Bethesda woman missing in Aruba
August 8, 2011 - 07:20 pm


<snipped>
 
Gardner, who lived and worked in Bethesda, left for Aruba on July 31st. Richard Forester says they had been dating for two and a half years, but quarreled before she left. He received his last e-mail from Gardner Tuesday, three hours before she was reported missing.

“The last message I got from her was ‘I love you,’” Forester said. “We will talk and sort things out when I get back,” Gardner wrote.

<snipped>

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-frederick-woman-missing-in-aruba-64854.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 11, 2011, 04:46:26 PM
Missing in Aruba Suspect's Lawyer Says 'There's No Proof'
The attorney for a man being held in Aruba for the disappearance at sea of Robyn Gardner claimed today that there is no evidence that his client committed murder.

 Gary Giordano, 50, is being held as a suspect in the disappearance of Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Md., who vanished in the same Aruba town where another American woman, Natalee Holloway, disappeared six years ago.

 Giordano and Gardner traveled together to Aruba July 31, according to Aruba police. ::snipping2::

Giordano's attorney in Aruba, Michael Lopez, said there is no evidence that supports a murder charge for his client.

 "They suspect murder but there's no proof, to my knowledge," said Michael Lopez, Giordano's attorney in Aruba. "I don't see any proof. There's no proof and no motive." ::snipping2::



Natalee Holloway's Mom Gets Involved

 The Natalee Holloway Resource Center, a foundation started after Holloway's disappearance, has been offering help to Gardner's boyfriend, Richard Forester.
::snipping2::
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-aruba-suspects-lawyer-proof/story?id=14271819


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 05:14:43 PM
Giordano has been in custody since Friday and investigators are interviewing him every day. His Aruban lawyer insists he is innocent and is being unjustly detained.
"What we have to go on at this point in time is the story of her companion who says they went into the water together and she didn't come out," Stein said. "We are more concentrating on what he is saying and how we can either corroborate or disprove his statement."
The judge's pretrial detention order expires Monday. Prosecutors can ask for an extension but will have to present evidence to justify continuing to hold him, Stein said.


Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Doubts-about-lost-friend-land-US-man-in-Aruba-jail-1793892.php#ixzz1Ukzq1yPw


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 06:14:19 PM
Husticia a confisca SUV cu Mericano desapareci y su acompañante tabata maneha      
Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:21
 
 
Ministerio Publico a confisca e auto di huur cu Gary Giordano a huur pa core hunto cu e Americana desapareci Robyn Gardner na Aruba. Ta trata aki di un SUV Toyota Rav-4 color blanco.
A huur e auto for di dia 30 di July 2011  y mester a entreg'e bek dia 5 di Augustus. Investigadonan apesar di tuma e vehiculo den beslag a bay cu e contracto tambe entre e compania di huur y Gary Giordano. Recherche lo purba haya cualkier informacion cu por tin den e auto. Na e momentonan aki tin hopi pregunta sin contesta, pues tur informacion por yuda soluciona e caso di desaparicion aki.


http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35307-husticia-a-confisca-suv-cu-mericano-desapareci-y-su-acompanante-tabata-maneha.html



Can anyone translate this? and there is a picture of the car at the above link, but I can't transfer it here - sorry

I was curious as to what vehicle they had, and now knowing it is a Rav4, he could have traveled on the other side of the island with little problem since he had 4 wheel drive capability and the roads (if you can call them that) are rough to travel on - which means he could have done something with her there


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 06:14:50 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/800-new-photo-of-seized-car-that-suspect-in-disappearance-of-robyn-gardner-was-driving-in-aruba.html

NEW! Photo of seized car that suspect in disappearance of Robyn Gardner was driving in Aruba         


Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:55
 
 
Investigators in Aruba are working very hard in getting more information in the investigation of the disappearance of the American woman Robyn Gardner. Related to their investigation they seized the rental car that was rented by the suspect Gary Giordano. Investigators are looking at every detail of the car to see if they might find any valuable information.

Arubaherald.com spoke to the car rental and they could inform that the car is a white Toyota RAV 4. The car was rented on July 30 2011 and had to be returned August 5 2011. The car was rented out on Gary Giordano's name. Click on image to see larger!

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_600_509_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug11_car.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 06:15:26 PM
festa!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 06:17:21 PM
http://arubaherald.com/local/774-us-reporting-of-alleged-snorkeling-site-incorrect.html

US reporting of alleged snorkeling site incorrect         


Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:04
 
 
Many US media have been reporting that the alleged area where the suspect in the dissaperance of the American woman Robyn Gardner says is Baby Beach. This information is incorrect. The suspect says that they went snorkeling behind the Nanki Country Club area. This is close to the Baby Beach area but is located between Baby Beach and Rodgers Beach.

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_800_600_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug10_arubabeach.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 06:21:16 PM
http://arubaherald.com/local/777-aruba-authorities-conducting-extensive-investigation-on-disappearance-of-american-lady-no-positive-results-yet.html

Aruba authorities conducting extensive investigation on disappearance of American lady, no positive results yet

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_800_600_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug10_arthur0813.JPG)         


Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:20
 
 
In an interview with Justice Minister Arthur Dowers, he said that information to the press will only be given by the district attorney, Mr. Taco Stijn, because the technical information issued has to be consistent. The minister said that no information on the content of the case will be issued to prevent disturbances in the investigation before it is concluded.

Minister Dowers said he had gone to the location where the lady disappeared at Nanki, San Nicolas during the massive, extensive search being conducted by police, maritime police, the coastguard and their partners, including the helicopter services. The search has not given any positive results; the minister said the press would be informed as soon as there is new information.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 06:24:23 PM
http://arubaherald.com/aruba-411/799-aruba-tourism-authority-monitoring-social-media-very-closely.html

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_450_446_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug11_ronellaasjoecroes__headshot.jpg)

Aruba Tourism Authority monitoring social media very closely         

Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:35
 
During an interesting meeting with the Minister of Tourism and the director of the Aruba Tourism Authority they have informed local press that during the past days Aruba has been very much mentioned in different newscasts but also widely spoken about on social media.

The Aruba Tourism Authority constantly measures the expressions and opinions that are given on social media to better implement their strategy as to what's the best way to deal with all the media attention that Aruba is getting primarily in the United States.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 06:28:28 PM
http://arubaherald.com/aruba-411/798--minister-of-tourism-meets-with-local-press-in-relation-to-disappearance-of-american-woman.html

Minister of Tourism meets with local press in relation to disappearance of American woman   

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_600_402_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug11_otmar_Image_001.jpg)      


Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:21
 
 
Thursday morning the Minister of Tourism in Aruba Mr. Otmar Oduber held a meeting with different Aruban reporters. During this meeting the director of The Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) Mrs. Ronella Tjin a Sjoe and Sue Ann Lee were also present.

The goal of the meeting was to inform the local press of the steps that the Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA)and the Government are doing in regards to the publicity that the case of the missing American woman is bringing to Aruba. The Minister informed that on an hourly basis they receive updates of all media publications and broadcasts that mention Aruba in relations to the on going investigation. The Tourism Authority receives many requests for information from international press but they are not commenting. This is because it is not advisable to directly mix tourism news with a judicial occurrence.
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(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_600_402_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug11_otmar_Image_009.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 06:37:31 PM
The ATA and AHATA must not be reading the comments on some of the social media sites that I was reading last night.

Many, "I'LL NEVER GO TO ARUBA!" comments

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 06:47:26 PM

http://arubaherald.com/911/801-mother-of-disappeared-woman-robyn-gardner-is-grateful-to-aruban-authorities.html

Mother of disappeared woman Robyn Gardner is grateful to Aruban Authorities         


Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:55

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The mother of Robyn Gardner who has not been seen since August 2nd in Aruba is praying and hoping for the return of her daughter. She expressed her gratitude to the Aruban authorities and all volunteers that are working day and night to get answers.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 11, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
NOW

Minister of Tourism meets with local press in relation to disappearance of American woman
Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:21


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The Tourism Authority receives many requests for information from international press but they are not commenting. This is because it is not advisable to directly mix tourism news with a judicial occurrence.

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http://arubaherald.com/aruba-411/798--minister-of-tourism-meets-with-local-press-in-relation-to-disappearance-of-american-woman.html


THEN

Aruba
US still drives business to Aruba after Holloway case closed
By Hazel Heyer | Jan 16, 2008


eTN caught up with Aruba’s minister of tourism and transportation, Edison Briesen, who said the island is back in business despite the revival of the Holloway incident, which has become fodder for the media.

eTN: Has this been a big challenge to tourism?

Briesen: Among all challenges we’ve faced, including airlift, US economy slowdown, gas prices etc, this particularly has taken up our time and resources. Everybody got involved in this case.  People from the tourism department have been moved to the justice department to help solve the disappearance.  This incident has kept us ‘hostage’ for more than a year. In 2006, we even launched an ad campaign worth $5 M in the US to counter the negative broadcast. On the other side of the coin, more people now know about Aruba. But I would not want Aruba to be known in the same way Iraq is known. One reason why we think it has been a hard blow to us.

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http://www.eturbonews.com/865/us-still-drives-business-aruba-after-holloway-case-closed


Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 158:
  Not long after the "criminals speech," some Arubans back off their prayer vigils for Natalee.  A few protest in the streets against the barage of negative media.  We've worn out our welcom at the Holiday Inn.  And they let us know they've had it.  The Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA), the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA), the Aruba Trade and Industry Association and a scattering of island officials establish the Strategic Communications Task Force to combat the negative media.  And to combat us.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 11, 2011, 07:21:16 PM
Gardner's mom prays daughter will be found
Thursday - 8/11/2011, 8:09am  ET


WASHINGTON - Andrea Colson, Robyn Gardner's mom, released the following statement about her daughter through the Natalee Holloway Resource Center.

Our daughter Robyn has been missing since August 2, 2011. We can only pray that she will soon be with us and bring back the joy into our lives. She means the world to us. We are hoping for the very best outcome with the help of the international community that we will reach a favorable outcome. We are confident and very grateful to the Aruba authorities and volunteers who are working above and beyond all our expectations. I hope you understand that we are being quiet as to not jeopardize the investigation. Please continue to pray for Robyn. Thank you.

The Natalee Holloway Resource Center also established a tip line. Anyone with any tips about Gardner's disappearance can call 407-237-2295

http://wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2492207



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 07:38:15 PM
Suspect Gary Giordano Sent Angry Texts to Robyn Gardner Before Disappearance


Gary Giordano had a history of sending aggressive, angry texts to missing Maryland womanRobyn Gardner, according to her best friend and roommate.

Christina Jones said Giordano, who is being held in an Aruba jail in connection with Gardner's disappearance, had previously asked Gardner to go on a cruise with him. When Gardner went away with Jones to New York instead, he flipped, Jones told ABC News.

"He was texting her while we were at breakfast, very angry at her because she decided she wasn't going to go on the cruise," Jones said. "And his responses by text, which I don't feel comfortable repeating, were aggressive, harmful, something that doesn't sit right within myself."

Gardner, 35, disappeared last week while on vacation with Giordano, whom she met on an online dating site over a year ago, according to Jones. Giordano told police the two were snorkeling together, but Gardner never returned to shore. He was arrested when police decided his story didn't add up, according to Aruba authorities.

Jones said that her friend was aware that Giordano, 50, had a history of domestic abuse allegations, and that they had a "rollercoaster friendship."

When Gardner told Jones she was going to Aruba with the volatile Giordano, Jones questioned her friend.

"When she came to me and said, 'Hey, I'm going to Aruba,' I said, 'Cool, I'm so happy, get out of town, why wouldn't you?'" Jones said. "And then she said she was going with Gary, it became a 'why? Why? Are you sure?'"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-aruba-friend-suspect-harmful-aggressive-texts/story?id=14279819


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 11, 2011, 07:39:20 PM
August 11th

Aruban authorities expect to soon enlist the help of the FBI and other American agencies with the investigation of the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, a 35-year-old Frederick woman.

Solicitor General Taco Stein said investigators have contacted American authorities in an effort to get information about Gardner and Gary Giordano, the 50-year-old Gaithersburg man detained in connection with her disappearance. But he said he expects American authorities will soon be asked to become more intimately involved in the case.

"Officially, we have not yet made a move in that direction ... but that is coming," Stein said.


 ::snipping2::

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?storyID=124736


HELLO ATA and Aruba.  The American lady went missing August 2nd...with involvement of an American man.  If you want to gain points, you should have immediately called the FBI and let them take over the investigation.  Once again, it's too little too late.  Once again the FBI will be contacted....sometime...to get information for your pitiful investigation.  Give it up!!!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 07:53:06 PM
The FBI is helping Aruban authorities investigate the disappearance of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Maryland. The assistance includes conducting interviews and may soon include a search of her traveling partner's house in Gaithersburg.

In Gaithersburg Thursday afternoon, the FBI did not say whether it will be searching the home of Gary Giordano, her traveling partner, for possible clues about his relationship with Robyn Gardner. But Aruban prosecutors told CNN that they are requesting that the FBI help with the investigation, including searching Giordano's house in Maryland.


Aruban prosecutors say that Giordano is no longer cooperating with the investigation and is claiming his rights not to talk. They also say they will be releasing Giordano's picture to help generate tips from the public.

Gardner was reported missing in Aruba last week, say officials with the Natalee Holloway Resource Center. Gardner was last seen on Tuesday, August 2nd at the Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino in Oranjestad, Aruba.

http://wusa9.com/news/article/162086/373/Prosecutors-Giordano-Not-Cooperating-In-Gardner-Case



Again, with mixed media sources, info gets confused, but was she last seen at the Renaissance? what time, when would that be?  Supposedly she was seen at lunch at JADS dive...
Hopefully the FBI can and will search his house, computer/s in particular, at least to gain info to continue to hold him. If no evidence by Monday, they could let him go...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 11, 2011, 08:01:12 PM
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/28838996/detail.html

CORNELIUS, N.C. -- A man at the center of the investigation of a woman who disappeared while snorkeling in Aruba has ties to the Charlotte area.
Gary Giordano, 50, lived in a home on Peninsula Club Drive on Lake Norman in Cornelius for nearly two years in the mid 2000s.
Neighbors told Eyewitness News he married a local Realtor, Connie Klein, in the back yard of his home.
The pair eventually divorced and Giordano moved back to Maryland, where he apparently met Robyn Gardner, the woman he traveled to Aruba with last week and who has since vanished.
Residents near Giordano's former home describe the father of three as a "family man" and said they were surprised by the news.
"I saw his picture and didn't recognize him. I just didn't put two and two together," said neighbor Janet Smith.
Other neighbors, who asked not to be identified, described a different side of Gary Giordano, including a domestic violence incident at his home involving Klein.
Eyewitness News obtained a copy of the Cornelius police report detailing the incident in February 2007. It indicates Klein called 911 after Giordano became drunk and disruptive and threw some items inside their home.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 11, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/aruba-woman-robyn-gardner-boyfriend-richard-forester-talked-marriage-kids

Robyn Gardner's Boyfriend Reveals: ‘We’d Talked About Marriage And About The Future'
Posted on Aug 11, 2011 @ 06:00PM   
By Radar Staff

As concern for missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner escalates, her longtime boyfriend talked exclusively to RadarOnline.com about how they were ready to take their relationship to the next level.

"We’d talked about marriage and about the future," Richard Forester, who had been dating 35-year-old Gardner for 2 1/2 years told RadarOnline.com on Thursday in an exclusive interview.

"We were looking for a place together," explained Forester, adding that they already spent nearly every night side by side. "She had her own apartment in Frederick but she lived with me six days a week, and she had her cats here."

PHOTOS: Richard Forester And Robyn Gardner

Robyn, who's maiden name is Colson, was previously married to Kenneth Gardner in 1998, but the couple were divorced in 2009, according to Forester.

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“She said she was going away on a family vacation, she was she was going to Orlando and then they surprised her and took her to Aruba,” Forester told RadarOnline.com. “I didn’t know she was going with Giordano. I don’t know if it was romantic, I pray that they were just friends."

Ironically, Forester and Gardner first met on same dating site that she became acquainted with Giordano on.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 11, 2011, 09:28:05 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/11/suspect-in-missing-woman-case-not-talking-say-aruban-authorities/?test=latestnews

Suspect in Missing Woman Case Not Talking, Say Aruban Authorities
Published August 11, 2011
| FoxNews.com

Prosecutors in Aruba asked the U.S. Department of Justice for assistance in the case of the missing American tourist because the suspect in the case is no longer co-operating with the investigation, according to a statement released Thursday night.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/11/suspect-in-missing-woman-case-not-talking-say-aruban-authorities/#ixzz1Um1XWra5


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 10:11:52 PM
August 11th

Aruban authorities expect to soon enlist the help of the FBI and other American agencies with the investigation of the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, a 35-year-old Frederick woman.

Solicitor General Taco Stein said investigators have contacted American authorities in an effort to get information about Gardner and Gary Giordano, the 50-year-old Gaithersburg man detained in connection with her disappearance. But he said he expects American authorities will soon be asked to become more intimately involved in the case.

"Officially, we have not yet made a move in that direction ... but that is coming," Stein said.


 ::snipping2::

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?storyID=124736


HELLO ATA and Aruba.  The American lady went missing August 2nd...with involvement of an American man.  If you want to gain points, you should have immediately called the FBI and let them take over the investigation.  Once again, it's too little too late.  Once again the FBI will be contacted....sometime...to get information for your pitiful investigation.  Give it up!!!

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 11:16:14 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

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(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08112011FB1.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08112011FB2.jpg)

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Sharon Gonzalez
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Quote
your rants are disparaging to an island that is nothing but welcoming to tourists. Tourism is their livelihood. These women went missing because they made stupid decisions. Period. Although the focus and purpose of this page is to make the public aware of Robyn's disappearance and to offer her loved ones support - IT IS MY OPINION that this page wouldn't be necessary had this woman made the intelligent decision to not travel abroad with a man that was pretty much a stranger. Can you contest that? No. I've said it many times on this page before. DO NOT blame Aruba for her disappearance. It has nothing to do with location but choice of company.
::snipping2::

Wonder what Lily Konowitz supposedly did that caused her to be attacked and beaten while she was in the restroom of a restaurant in Aruba (April of this year)? 

Read Lily Konowitz's story here:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/28678487/detail.html

Just one example, and there are many, many more that contradict the statement "an island that is nothing but welcoming to tourists"

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 11, 2011, 11:28:29 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/11/fbi-aiding-aruba-after-maryland-woman-disappears/

FBI aiding Aruba after Maryland woman disappears
Woman’s male friend questioned

By Andrea Noble-The Washington Times

Thursday, August 11, 2011

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Robyn Gardner’s travel companion, who is being detained in Aruba, says she disappeared while they were snorkeling. (Natalee Holloway Resource Center via Associated Press)

The FBI’s Washington Field Office has begun conducting interviews of people close to a Maryland woman who went missing in Aruba last week.

At the request of Aruban authorities, FBI agents are providing logistical help as authorities on the Caribbean island investigate Robyn Gardner’s disappearance and continue to question her travel companion, said Special Agent Richard Wolf, a spokesman for the field office.

“We’ve done a couple interviews, but I’m not going to get into details,” he said.
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Red on August 12, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
Robyn Gardner Missing in Aruba … Suspected Travel Companion Gary Giordano Remains Quiet … Email Account Active?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/12/robyn-gardner-missing-in-aruba-suspected-travel-companion-gary-giordano-remains-quiet-email-account-active/

We had an opportunity to get the scoop from Jossy Mansur, the Managing Editor of Diario – Aruba with regards to the case of missing Robyn Gardner. Jossy took the time to share the following information that he learned after discussing the missing persons case with Aruba AG Taco Stein.

Quote
He explained that the American Tourist, Robeyn Gardner, disappeared between Baby Beach and Rodgers Beach, which is the part behind Nanki Club.

According to Stein, the detention of Gary Giordano ends Monday and after that he will have to present himself before the Judge of Instructions, where it will be determined whether he will have to stay 8 more days in preventive detention.
Stein could not give more details of the case so as not to obstruct the investigation going on, but until he spoke to the DIARIO he indicated that no new evidence has come forward. If and when that happens, it will be given out in a press release by the Prosecution.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 12, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Thanks Red!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/11/suspect-in-missing-woman-case-not-talking-say-aruban-authorities/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/11/suspect-in-missing-woman-case-not-talking-say-aruban-authorities/?test=latestnews)


(http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/396/223/giordano1.JPG)

Suspect in Missing Woman Case Not Talking, Say Aruban Authorities

Published August 12, 2011

Prosecutors in Aruba asked the U.S. Department of Justice for assistance in the case of the missing American tourist because the suspect in the case is no longer cooperating with the investigation, according to a statement released Thursday night.

The statement refers to the suspect as G.V.G. It has widely been reported that Gary Giordano, who claimed to be Robyn Gardner’s travel partner, was in jail on the Caribbean island Thursday as authorities looked for clues to what happened to Gardner.

The public prosecutor is set to publish a photo of the suspect with the woman and appeal to the public for any information about where the two may have been seen on the island, according to a statement from the prosecutor’s office.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/11/suspect-in-missing-woman-case-not-talking-say-aruban-authorities/#ixzz1Uoym4guV

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 10:04:52 AM
Man held in Aruba was tied to stalking case



The woman claimed Giordano threatened her with violence, telling authorities he said he would "terminate me" and told her "the world would be better off without me, and he could help." She also said Giordano posted pictures of her and letters about her on neighbors’ mailboxes.


http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20110812man_held_in_aruba_was_tied_to_stalking_case/srvc=home&position=recent


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 10:07:49 AM
But Mary Sutton said residents of the neighborhood are well aware of the extensive system of video cameras around his home, which she said once led to the identification of some vandals who knocked over Giordano’s mailbox.

"My impression is, what’s he hiding?" she said. "I definitely have a concern, now that all this has come out, that he lives next to Thurgood Marshall Elementary School."


AND

The woman told authorities that Giordano frequently threw and broke objects, and once telling her "things were going to get rough" during an argument. She also claimed Giordano on several occasions threw their then-13-year-old son to the ground.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 10:09:58 AM
Sorry above quote is from his ex-wife, ALSO:

Gail Landau, the Rockville lawyer who represented the woman in the 2010 peace order, said she could not comment on the case after the FBI told her former client to stop allowing information to be released to the media.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 12:22:39 PM
Robyn Gardner Being Treated as 'a Mysterious Death'



"I know we don't have a body, so one can argue that she might still be alive," Taco Stein, an officer in the public prosecutor's office, tells PEOPLE exclusively. "But our position on that is, if that were still the case, she would have come forward and said, 'Here I am, nothing is wrong.' "


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20517848,00.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 12:25:30 PM
Giordano evolved from witness to suspect over the next few days as his story began to veer. "The main gist of the story remained the same," says Stein. "But in asking details, things began to get fishy."

Police arrested Giordano at the airport last Friday as he tried to leave the country, after being told he was not a suspect but should remain available for questioning, says Stein. He has since stopped cooperating, prompting Aruban authorities on Thursday to ask the FBI to help run down leads on Giordano's background in the U.S.

He is being held in a police cell until Monday, when authorities must go before a judge to offer progress in their investigation in order to hold him for another eight days of questioning.

Giordano has not been formally charged.




I hope this guy isn't let go.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 01:17:39 PM
Aruba officials think missing US tourist dead



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gpCJdY7KU6TfkqngPFJHSDG7AZhA?docId=df3c6d45890748ec948af0228baa9057


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 01:20:03 PM
Investigators have distributed photos of the couple and are hoping anyone who saw them will contact police.
Investigators particularly need details of how the couple behaved together on the island, and whether they seemed close or quarreled. "We have very little information about what they did on the island. The information we have doesn't give us insight into their relationship," Stein said.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 12, 2011, 02:57:27 PM
Maybe it should be Aruba Triangle, rather than Bermuda.  How do so many people just vanish in thin air?   Even IF she was swept out, wouldn't a body wash up somewhere, or do we assume a shark or something ate them?

No wonder he took her to Aruba,  it's just to easy for those with bad intentions!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: I dont feel tardy on August 12, 2011, 03:11:04 PM
Gary Giordano's story  is obviously not making sense......I wonder IF he stashed her body somewhere. I'd be curious to know how much mileage he put on the rental vehicle since their arrival on Aruba July 31st. He may have cruised around looking for a spot to hide her.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 03:13:12 PM
Maybe it should be Aruba Triangle, rather than Bermuda.  How do so many people just vanish in thin air?   Even IF she was swept out, wouldn't a body wash up somewhere, or do we assume a shark or something ate them?

No wonder he took her to Aruba,  it's just to easy for those with bad intentions!

Yes,

While looking for something last night, I read this comment from 2006...kinda crude (apologies in advance) but the truth IMO.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.msg41451#msg41451
(last paragraph)

Quote
::snipping2::  For any kind of sexual deviant, Aruba is the place where all the comforts of a perv’s best wet dreams can occur jail free. ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 03:14:58 PM
Gary Giordano's story  is obviously not making sense......I wonder IF he stashed her body somewhere. I'd be curious to know how much mileage he put on the rental vehicle since their arrival on Aruba July 31st. He may have cruised around looking for a spot to hide her.

I'd like to know if he knew anyone from Aruba before traveling there.  He may have had help.

jmo


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 03:24:14 PM
I don't know if this is true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if it is.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

Patricia Brooks Hill

Authorities have asked Richard to stop doing interviews as it 'is impeding the investigation.' Repost and share the link to keep Robyn's name at the top of the news chain and in the spotlight.

Robyn Colson Gardner Desperately Needs Help!
www.associatedcontent.com
This is a public plea to help a beautiful Maryland woman who has disappeared and feared a victim of foul play.

5 hours ago · Share


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Grandma2Maddie on August 12, 2011, 03:51:55 PM
Has anyone heard what the other woman look like that this man tried to get to go to Aruba?  I heard that he had tried to get other woman to go on a cruise to Aruba and they wouldn't go.

I was just thinking that if they all had blonde hair and had a similar look to Natalee and Robyn that maybe it has something more to do with a sex trade.  With Joran locked up they would need someone else to get woman. 

Just thinking out loud right now.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 12, 2011, 04:28:07 PM
Maybe it should be Aruba Triangle, rather than Bermuda.  How do so many people just vanish in thin air?   Even IF she was swept out, wouldn't a body wash up somewhere, or do we assume a shark or something ate them?

No wonder he took her to Aruba,  it's just to easy for those with bad intentions!

Yes,

While looking for something last night, I read this comment from 2006...kinda crude (apologies in advance) but the truth IMO.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.msg41451#msg41451
(last paragraph)

Quote
::snipping2::  For any kind of sexual deviant, Aruba is the place where all the comforts of a perv’s best wet dreams can occur jail free. ::snipping2::

Well that pretty much sums it up.  Sad but true!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 12, 2011, 04:53:24 PM
Gary Giordano's story  is obviously not making sense......I wonder IF he stashed her body somewhere. I'd be curious to know how much mileage he put on the rental vehicle since their arrival on Aruba July 31st. He may have cruised around looking for a spot to hide her.

I'd like to know if he knew anyone from Aruba before traveling there.  He may have had help.

jmo

Hi TM and everyone.  Thanks to TM and everymonkey for gathering the news on Robyn for us. 

TM, You've been in my head again!  I was wondering if this guy has been to Aruba before, and if so, who he has associated with.  It's rather disturbing that he tried to get her on a cruise, and when that fell apart, he pulled this trip to Auba out of his shorts.

There are lots of other things to do.  Why did this guy just have to get her to the Caribbean?

Hopefully the FBI will search his home in Maryland and find out just what he's been up to.

Thanks again monkeys, and prayers for Robyn and her loved ones.

 ::MonkeyBike::

 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 06:05:34 PM
Gary Giordano's story  is obviously not making sense......I wonder IF he stashed her body somewhere. I'd be curious to know how much mileage he put on the rental vehicle since their arrival on Aruba July 31st. He may have cruised around looking for a spot to hide her.



Aruba is a very small island, so it is not very hard to find your way around (unless you're trying to getting to Natural Pool) and since he had a Rav4 which I believe is 4 wheel drive, he would be able to navigate the unpaved roads on the other side of the island away from hotels - this part is fairly desolate, has a very rough rocky coastline - It is a pounding, crushing surf -


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 06:07:56 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08112011FB1.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08112011FB2.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

Sharon Gonzalez
 ::snipping2::
Quote
your rants are disparaging to an island that is nothing but welcoming to tourists. Tourism is their livelihood. These women went missing because they made stupid decisions. Period. Although the focus and purpose of this page is to make the public aware of Robyn's disappearance and to offer her loved ones support - IT IS MY OPINION that this page wouldn't be necessary had this woman made the intelligent decision to not travel abroad with a man that was pretty much a stranger. Can you contest that? No. I've said it many times on this page before. DO NOT blame Aruba for her disappearance. It has nothing to do with location but choice of company.
::snipping2::

Wonder what Lily Konowitz supposedly did that caused her to be attacked and beaten while she was in the restroom of a restaurant in Aruba (April of this year)? 

Read Lily Konowitz's story here:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/28678487/detail.html

Just one example, and there are many, many more that contradict the statement "an island that is nothing but welcoming to tourists"

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::



http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_FB01.jpg)

Maria Tromp is the mother of Vicenzo Tromp, missing in Aruba since November 27, 2007.  He'd worked as a prison guard in Aruba from 2004 until the time of his disappearance.

http://www.facebook.com/tromp3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/07172011_VicenzoTromp_MariaTrompFBprofilePic.jpg)

FB posts by Maria Tromp from last year:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8454.msg1230972#msg1230972



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 06:14:11 PM
Aruba prosecutors believe missing American is dead; seek longer detention order for companion


After so many days, authorities no longer believe the 35-year-old Maryland woman could be alive, so they are holding Giordano on suspicion of involvement in her death. Her remains have not been recovered despite a search of more than four days in the sea and on the coastline in the area where she was reported missing.

"As long as we don't have a body, you can question whether or not she is dead," Stein told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "On the other hand, with all the publicity on the case, if she were still alive she would have made herself known."

Other factors also lead to the conclusion she is dead, Stein told reporters later. Police have recovered her passport from her belongings and don't believe she could have left the island by air with a false identity. They have also found no evidence that she left Aruba by boat.

Asked why there is no further search for her remains, the prosecutor said it would be difficult to search without knowing where to look, even on a relatively small island. Aruba is about 75 square miles (193 square kilometers), nearly the size of Baltimore, Maryland.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9p2psv80/aruba-prosecutors-believe-missing-american-is-dead-seek-longer-detention-order-for-companion.html




I would think that many people would remember this woman, given the tattoos and assuming she was wearing a bathing suit or shorts or short dress most of the time since it's hot, I just back from there myself 8/4


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 06:31:25 PM
Under Aruban law, which is based on the Dutch legal system, the judge can extend the next detention order for a maximum of eight days at a hearing scheduled for Monday.

After that period, prosecutors could ask a judge to order Giordano held for as long as 60 days while they prepare a case, but that would require more substantial evidence. Charges would be filed at the end of the 60 days if prosecutors take the case to court.




Still curious if they've searched the other side of the island - IF he had never been here before and/or didn't know anyone on the island, I would think he would be limited as far as getting rid of evidence - bury it or in the water - Any canine searches?  Burying would mean tools and it doesn't seem as they've uncovered anything like that either physically (the actual tool or receipt) or witnesses to a purchase - The Renaissance has it's own private island, did they travel there?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 06:41:28 PM
Gary Giordano's story  is obviously not making sense......I wonder IF he stashed her body somewhere. I'd be curious to know how much mileage he put on the rental vehicle since their arrival on Aruba July 31st. He may have cruised around looking for a spot to hide her.

I'd like to know if he knew anyone from Aruba before traveling there.  He may have had help.

jmo

Hi TM and everyone.  Thanks to TM and everymonkey for gathering the news on Robyn for us. 

TM, You've been in my head again!  I was wondering if this guy has been to Aruba before, and if so, who he has associated with.  It's rather disturbing that he tried to get her on a cruise, and when that fell apart, he pulled this trip to Auba out of his shorts.

There are lots of other things to do.  Why did this guy just have to get her to the Caribbean?

Hopefully the FBI will search his home in Maryland and find out just what he's been up to.

Thanks again monkeys, and prayers for Robyn and her loved ones.

 ::MonkeyBike::

 

Hi Helen Back!   :2waver:

I definitely agree with you, and I hope all of Giordano's contacts can be traced over the last year; especially the time he's known Robyn.  He was up to something all along imo.

This article was particularly disturbing to me.  If you haven't seen the video (at the link below...from GMA this morning), watch it.

From the video...They aren't quite sure how he made a living, he's alternatively described himself as a "recruiter" and a "producer". 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-case-aruba-scrambles-mount-evidence-gary/story?id=14289710

Robyn Gardner Investigators Search for Evidence Against Giordano

By COLLEEN CURRY, MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) , and KATIE KINDELAN
Aug. 12, 2011

 ::snipping2::

Giordano Stalked, Pressured Other Women to Go Away With Him

At least four women have said that Giordano was alarmingly aggresive toward them.

Carrie Emerson told ABC News that Giordano tried to contact her daughter, a model, claiming that he was a producer and wanted to take her to Aruba for a photo shoot. He became angry when she said refused his offer.

"He started telling me stuff like that he would protect her. He said, 'It's not going to be another Natalee Holloway or anything,'" Emerson said, referring to the Alabama high school student who disappeared on the island in 2005.

"He got very angry with me at that point. He started telling me that if I went and slept with him he would make sure I was taken care of well financially. He said that 'if you ever let your daughter sleep with me too, I'll take care of both of ya'll for the rest of your lives financially,'" said Emerson, who told her story to the FBI.

Another woman said Giordano pressured her to go on a cruise with him, and when she refused, he stalked her, showing up outside her window wearing a deer costume.

Aruba authorities are counting on the testimony of women from Giordano's past to help convince a judge to hold him in the country longer.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 06:56:02 PM
Under Aruban law, which is based on the Dutch legal system, the judge can extend the next detention order for a maximum of eight days at a hearing scheduled for Monday.

After that period, prosecutors could ask a judge to order Giordano held for as long as 60 days while they prepare a case, but that would require more substantial evidence. Charges would be filed at the end of the 60 days if prosecutors take the case to court.




Still curious if they've searched the other side of the island - IF he had never been here before and/or didn't know anyone on the island, I would think he would be limited as far as getting rid of evidence - bury it or in the water - Any canine searches?  Burying would mean tools and it doesn't seem as they've uncovered anything like that either physically (the actual tool or receipt) or witnesses to a purchase - The Renaissance has it's own private island, did they travel there?

There are plenty of places to hide a body in Aruba, the locals know them well...a new tourist might not.  There are many caves, abandoned wells, smaller bodies of water, the sand dunes, etc.  If they were going to search with dogs, they should have already been doing it IMO...but I haven't read about any.  The winds there don't make it an easy task.

They were staying at the Marriott, not the Renaissance.  I read that the reports of them staying at the Renaissance is incorrect.  The private island is only for Renaissance guests from my understanding.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 07:10:05 PM
---------------------------
Carrie Emerson told ABC News that Giordano tried to contact her daughter, a model, claiming that he was a producer and wanted to take her to Aruba for a photo shoot. He became angry when she said refused his offer.

"He started telling me stuff like that he would protect her. He said, 'It's not going to be another Natalee Holloway or anything,'" Emerson said, referring to the Alabama high school student who disappeared on the island in 2005.

"He got very angry with me at that point. He started telling me that if I went and slept with him he would make sure I was taken care of well financially. He said that 'if you ever let your daughter sleep with me too, I'll take care of both of ya'll for the rest of your lives financially,'" said Emerson, who told her story to the FBI.
----------------------------


Photo shoot? What does he do for a living? I thought it had something to do with an employment agency.  Regardless, this guy just keeps getting sicker and sicker - And the fact that he suggested going to Aruba for a photo shoot makes me think he has been there before so he may know the island - There are caves on the other side and it is rural, lots of places to get rid of evidence, but I still think water is a better bet - If she was found in a cave or buried somewhere, that would mean it was deliberate, but if she's found in the water, he could keep claiming accident - Better chance to get away with it - I know they searched, but still with currents, sea life, etc.
It's also curious how soon he reported her missing - IF she was seen at lunch that day and he reported her missing at 6pm?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 07:12:49 PM
Aruba prosecutors believe missing American is dead; seek longer detention order for companion


After so many days, authorities no longer believe the 35-year-old Maryland woman could be alive, so they are holding Giordano on suspicion of involvement in her death. Her remains have not been recovered despite a search of more than four days in the sea and on the coastline in the area where she was reported missing.

"As long as we don't have a body, you can question whether or not she is dead," Stein told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "On the other hand, with all the publicity on the case, if she were still alive she would have made herself known."

Other factors also lead to the conclusion she is dead, Stein told reporters later. Police have recovered her passport from her belongings and don't believe she could have left the island by air with a false identity. They have also found no evidence that she left Aruba by boat.

Asked why there is no further search for her remains, the prosecutor said it would be difficult to search without knowing where to look, even on a relatively small island. Aruba is about 75 square miles (193 square kilometers), nearly the size of Baltimore, Maryland.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9p2psv80/aruba-prosecutors-believe-missing-american-is-dead-seek-longer-detention-order-for-companion.html


I would think that many people would remember this woman, given the tattoos and assuming she was wearing a bathing suit or shorts or short dress most of the time since it's hot, I just back from there myself 8/4


Regardless of how much publicity there is, if she is being held against her will (and more than likely drugged if this is the case) she wouldn't be able to "make herself known".  If she was handed off to others or taken, the Aruban authorities gave the culprits more than a week to either hide her well on the island or get her off the island, while they kept the disappearance hush hush and only searched where the "now" suspect said she was last seen.  She wouldn't need her passport, believe me.  Even Joran van der Sloot had two passports!  Good grief!

 :gaah:

And I guess now they are going to claim that they KNOW about every single boat that comes to shore and leaves Aruba...GMAFB.

 ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Unless they're assuming she's dead based on evidence they currently have, that we don't know about...it makes me mad for them to automatically assume that after a four day search of the water and coastline.  They obviously haven't searched anywhere else!  They've already said his story doesn't add up, but now they're going to believe she must be dead based what he's said?  They'd been in Aruba how long... about 48 hours...and she disappears?  After he'd been trying for how long to GET HER THERE?

Americans need to stay away from that island.  Period. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 07:16:33 PM
Under Aruban law, which is based on the Dutch legal system, the judge can extend the next detention order for a maximum of eight days at a hearing scheduled for Monday.

After that period, prosecutors could ask a judge to order Giordano held for as long as 60 days while they prepare a case, but that would require more substantial evidence. Charges would be filed at the end of the 60 days if prosecutors take the case to court.




Still curious if they've searched the other side of the island - IF he had never been here before and/or didn't know anyone on the island, I would think he would be limited as far as getting rid of evidence - bury it or in the water - Any canine searches?  Burying would mean tools and it doesn't seem as they've uncovered anything like that either physically (the actual tool or receipt) or witnesses to a purchase - The Renaissance has it's own private island, did they travel there?

There are plenty of places to hide a body in Aruba, the locals know them well...a new tourist might not.  There are many caves, abandoned wells, smaller bodies of water, the sand dunes, etc.  If they were going to search with dogs, they should have already been doing it IMO...but I haven't read about any.  The winds there don't make it an easy task.

They were staying at the Marriott, not the Renaissance.  I read that the reports of them staying at the Renaissance is incorrect.  The private island is only for Renaissance guests from my understanding.


Thanks, I assumed they were mixing Marriott and Renaissance in reports since Marriott owns Renaissance, but I'm assuming they were staying at Marriott at Palm Beach which is a ways from Renaissance in Oranjestad and from Rogers Beach and does not have private island access. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 07:19:15 PM
Hey Aruba...

NO BODY = NO DEATH

ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW HER SAID SHE WOULD NOT HAVE GONE SNORKELING!

KEEP LOOKING FOR HER!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Lazy or complicit?  I have to wonder.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2011, 07:19:18 PM
http://www.gazette.net/article/20110812/NEWS/708129527/1124/1124/man-not-cooperating-in-aruba-investigation&template=gazette

Friday, August 12, 2011
Man not cooperating in Aruba investigation
Gaithersburg resident Giordano refuses to give DNA sample in disappearance of woman
by Jen Bondeson, Staff Writer

 ::snipping2::

The prosecutor's office has submitted a court order to get a sample of Giordano's DNA, Stein said.

 ::snipping2::

On Monday, the prosecutor's office released a photo of Giordano, hoping that anyone who saw him since he arrived on the island July 31 will contact the Aruban Police Force.

They hope to find out more about him, his contacts and the places he went with Gardner.

 ::snipping2::

Police searched from the coast of Aruba to the coast of Venezuela, which is about 15 miles away.

If police find new evidence, such as her snorkeling gear, they will intensify the search, he said.

 ::snipping2::

When a U.S. citizen is in custody abroad, consular officers visit them to check on their health and welfare, and work to ensure their fair treatment, according to a U.S. State Department official.

They provide information about the local legal system and attorneys, and facilitate communication with family and friends in the U.S., the official wrote in an email.

Giordano's lawyer, Michael Lopez, was appointed by the court, Stein said.

Giordano is not able to appoint his own lawyer, but he could suggest a lawyer he would like to use, and the court would take his choice into account, Stein said.

The courts in Aruba do not charge people who are accused of crimes before taking them to court, but rather the charging happens the moment they go to trial, he said.

If Giordano was taken to trial it would be before a judge, rather than a jury.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 12, 2011, 07:21:24 PM
Aruba prosecutors believe missing American is dead; seek longer detention order for companion


After so many days, authorities no longer believe the 35-year-old Maryland woman could be alive, so they are holding Giordano on suspicion of involvement in her death. Her remains have not been recovered despite a search of more than four days in the sea and on the coastline in the area where she was reported missing.

"As long as we don't have a body, you can question whether or not she is dead," Stein told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "On the other hand, with all the publicity on the case, if she were still alive she would have made herself known."

Other factors also lead to the conclusion she is dead, Stein told reporters later. Police have recovered her passport from her belongings and don't believe she could have left the island by air with a false identity. They have also found no evidence that she left Aruba by boat.

Asked why there is no further search for her remains, the prosecutor said it would be difficult to search without knowing where to look, even on a relatively small island. Aruba is about 75 square miles (193 square kilometers), nearly the size of Baltimore, Maryland.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9p2psv80/aruba-prosecutors-believe-missing-american-is-dead-seek-longer-detention-order-for-companion.html


I would think that many people would remember this woman, given the tattoos and assuming she was wearing a bathing suit or shorts or short dress most of the time since it's hot, I just back from there myself 8/4


Regardless of how much publicity there is, if she is being held against her will (and more than likely drugged if this is the case) she wouldn't be able to "make herself known".  If she was handed off to others or taken, the Aruban authorities gave the culprits more than a week to either hide her well on the island or get her off the island, while they kept the disappearance hush hush and only searched where the "now" suspect said she was last seen.  She wouldn't need her passport, believe me.  Even Joran van der Sloot had two passports!  Good grief!

 :gaah:

And I guess now they are going to claim that they KNOW about every single boat that comes to shore and leaves Aruba...GMAFB.

 ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Unless they're assuming she's dead based on evidence they currently have, that we don't know about...it makes me mad for them to automatically assume that after a four day search of the water and coastline.  They obviously haven't searched anywhere else!  They've already said his story doesn't add up, but now they're going to believe she must be dead based what he's said?  They'd been in Aruba how long... about 48 hours...and she disappears?  After he'd been trying for how long to GET HER THERE?

Americans need to stay away from that island.  Period. 

Although he definitely has proven to have quite the temper and could easily have done something to her, based on this report regarding the model/photo shoot, this is at least 1 other person (2 if you consider her mom also) that he was anxious to get to Aruba, which makes the human trafficking aspect seem a possibility - Where else does this guy travel to?  He used Marriott reward points for this trip, so he travel a bit.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2011, 07:24:24 PM
Hey Aruba...

NO BODY = NO DEATH

ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW HER SAID SHE WOULD NOT HAVE GONE SNORKELING!

KEEP LOOKING FOR HER!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Lazy or complicit?  I have to wonder.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::rhino::  ALL of the above. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2011, 07:53:05 PM
Slideshow shows pictures of his house and a photo of him released Aug. 11 etc.


http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/gallery?section=news/national_world&id=8304283&photo=5

Search goes on in Aruba for missing woman
Slideshow posted in National/World | Friday, August 12, 2011


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/missing-aruba-woman-robyn-gardner-was-alimony-battle-with-ex-husband

 Robyn Gardner Was In Alimony Battle With Ex-Husband When She Went Missing In Aruba
Posted on Aug 12, 2011 @ 06:30PM
By Amber Goodhand - Radar Reporter

Robyn Gardner was in the middle of a bitter alimony battle with her ex-husband when she disappeared in Aruba, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

Robyn married Kenneth Gardner in 1998. The two separated by 2007, and their divorced was finalized May 6, 2009.

As part of their separation settlement, Kenneth was ordered to pay Robyn $2,000 per month for 36 months, as well as two lump sum payments of $15,000 in October of 2009 and 2010.

EXCLUSIVE: Read The Legal Documents Here

In paperwork exclusively obtained by RadarOnline.com from the Circuit Court for Frederick County in Maryland, Kenneth petitioned to modify the alimony earlier this year and Robyn opposed.

Prior to their split, the couple lived well in suburban Washington, D.C. They had an expensive house and drove a Mercedes Benz.   But their home had two mortgages and then Kenneth Gardner lost his job with a construction company.

PHOTOS: Richard Forester And Robyn Gardner

The court ordered his request for alimony modification to be head by a mediator, and a settlement conference is scheduled for October 7, 2011

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 08:07:12 PM
Remember...a member of the Aruban police force was one of the men arrested in this case.  He was an off duty bouncer/bodyguard for The Foxy Lady club that is under investigation for Human trafficking.  At least two that were arrested (Alex Matthew and Michael Levenstone) are still in custody awaiting trial...a year later.  Also remember from the "Trafficking in Persons 2011" report that Aruba has NEVER successfully prosecuted a human trafficking case.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/category/amigoe/

Posted August 8, 2010

Raid at Foxy Lady on Aruba’s “One Happy Island” due to Human Trafficking … Joran Van der Sloot, Thailand, Human Trafficking … Hmm?
ARRESTS MADE IN ARUBA IN CONNECTION WITH HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 08:08:11 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/missing-aruba-woman-robyn-gardner-was-alimony-battle-with-ex-husband

 Robyn Gardner Was In Alimony Battle With Ex-Husband When She Went Missing In Aruba
Posted on Aug 12, 2011 @ 06:30PM
By Amber Goodhand - Radar Reporter

Robyn Gardner was in the middle of a bitter alimony battle with her ex-husband when she disappeared in Aruba, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

Robyn married Kenneth Gardner in 1998. The two separated by 2007, and their divorced was finalized May 6, 2009.

As part of their separation settlement, Kenneth was ordered to pay Robyn $2,000 per month for 36 months, as well as two lump sum payments of $15,000 in October of 2009 and 2010.

EXCLUSIVE: Read The Legal Documents Here

In paperwork exclusively obtained by RadarOnline.com from the Circuit Court for Frederick County in Maryland, Kenneth petitioned to modify the alimony earlier this year and Robyn opposed.

Prior to their split, the couple lived well in suburban Washington, D.C. They had an expensive house and drove a Mercedes Benz.   But their home had two mortgages and then Kenneth Gardner lost his job with a construction company.

PHOTOS: Richard Forester And Robyn Gardner

The court ordered his request for alimony modification to be head by a mediator, and a settlement conference is scheduled for October 7, 2011

 ::snipping2::


Thanks grace-land!  I've been wanting to know more about this.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 08:10:00 PM
I'll post the pictures of Giordano's house and the tax records...if they're available...shortly.

::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 09:09:27 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/gallery?section=news/national_world&id=8304283&photo=2

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHome1.jpg)

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/gallery?section=news/national_world&id=8304283&photo=3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHome2.jpg)

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/rp_rewrite/details.aspx?County=16&SearchType=STREET&AccountNumber=06%2003406414

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomePropRec1-1.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomePropRec2.jpg)

I know that may be hard to read so I'll copy the info here as well...


Account Identifier:   District - 06 Account Number - 03406414
Owner Information
Owner Name:   GIORDANO GARY V
Use:   RESIDENTIAL
Principal Residence:   YES
Mailing Address:   12413 PUEBLO RD
GAITHERSBURG MD 20878-2059   Deed Reference:   1) /29282/ 00073
2)
Location & Structure Information
Premises Address      Legal Description
12413 PUEBLO RD      WILLOW RIDGE
GAITHERSBURG 20878-2059      
Map   Grid   Parcel   Sub District   Subdivision   Section   Block   Lot   Assessment Area   Plat No:   22518
ES53   0000   0000      0032      D   1   1   Plat Ref:   
Special Tax Areas   Town   NONE
Ad Valorem   
Tax Class   53
Primary Structure Built   Enclosed Area   Property Land Area   County Use
2004   5,174 SF   3.4400 AC   818
Stories   Basement   Type   Exterior
2.000000   YES   STANDARD UNIT   SIDING
Value Information
Base Value   Value   Phase-in Assessments
As Of
01/01/2010   As Of
07/01/2010   As Of
07/01/2011   
Land   399,920   281,200
Improvements:   939,960   775,400
Total:   1,339,880   1,056,600   1,056,600   1,056,600
Preferential Land:   0         0
Transfer Information
Seller:   WINCHESTER HOMES INC   Date:   02/16/2005   Price:   $1,224,215
Type:   ARMS LENGTH IMPROVED   Deed1:    /29282/ 00073   Deed2:   
Seller:   JOHNSON ENTERPRISES   Date:   03/28/2003   Price:   $2,040,000
Type:   ARMS LENGTH MULTIPLE   Deed1:    /23377/ 00046   Deed2:   
Seller:      Date:      Price:   
Type:      Deed1:      Deed2:   
Exemption Information
Partial Exempt Assessments   Class   07/01/2011   07/01/2012
County         0.00
State         0.00
Municipal         0.00
Tax Exempt:      Special Tax Recapture:
Exempt Class:       * NONE *

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/rp_rewrite/maps/showmap.asp?countyid=16&accountid=06+03406414

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomemap1-1.jpg)

Google maps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&biw=1024&bih=649&q=%2212413+PUEBLO+RD+GAITHERSBURG+MD%22&gs_upl=2865l12013l0l12296l3l3l0l0l0l0l225l477l0.2.1l3l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x89b62d91f70aac0d:0xc00622a0fc291e47,12413+Pueblo+Rd,+Gaithersburg,+MD+20878&gl=us&ei=FsVFTsCaLMensAKVttX_BQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ8gEwAA

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomeView1.jpg)

I'm not sure if it's the big house that sits off by itself...or one of the smaller ones that you can barely see in all the trees closer to the street.  The red marker indicates the drive to the big house...but looking at the maps/markers etc...maybe one of the smaller houses?...but then again he has almost 3 1/2 acres.

Here's a closer pic of the big house...

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomeview2.jpg)

He is less than 500 feet from the elementary school!   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 09:14:36 PM
A million dollar house and nobody's sure what he does for a living?

Not good.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
He's CEO of Leverage LLC?

http://gaithersburg.patch.com/articles/gaithersburg-business-owner-investigated-for-aruba-disappearance

Gaithersburg Business Owner Investigated for Aruba Disappearance
He claims the Bethesda woman he was with washed away while scuba diving.
By Nathan Carrick Email the author  August 10, 2011

 ::snipping2::

Giordano is listed on the business networking site LinkedIn as the CEO of Leverage LLC, a technology consulting firm based in Gaithersburg. His profile also says he was a consultant for the Red Cross and a sales executive at Sogeti LLC.

 ::snipping2::

------------------------------

http://leverage-us.com/index.html

Leverage LLC, a privately held firm, is a leading provider of Consulting and Information Technology solutions to Fortune 50 and Fortune 500 companies. Leverage LLC offers staffing solutions including temporary staffing, direct hire staffing, contract hire, contract-to-hire, payroll services, and outsourcing solutions servicing North America, and Internationally. Leverage LLC is one of the fastest growing Information Technology Staffing Resource, Accounting & Finance, Human Resource, Sales and Marketing, Legal Administrative and Clerical staffing agency placement firms. 

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 12, 2011, 10:01:35 PM
I'm not sure how much information we can put out here...addresses and such...Gary's name comes up with another address (maybe ex wife I really don't know yet) right down the street (literally, right down the street) in a neighborhood it appears...is a strip club...schools all around in Frederick, MD...just seems out of place.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 12, 2011, 10:05:07 PM
I'm not sure how much information we can put out here...addresses and such...Gary's name comes up with another address (maybe ex wife I really don't know yet) right down the street (literally, right down the street) in a neighborhood it appears...is a strip club...schools all around in Frederick, MD...just seems out of place.

Scratch that for a minute.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 12, 2011, 10:06:33 PM
Hey Texasmom!     ::HelloKitty::

Thanks for the link to the GMA video and story, I hadn't seen it. 

I feel so sick about this!

Oh my God!  This guy has tried to recruit girls specifically to Aruba.....The transit point for human trafficking.  It creeps me out how quickly you could get tossed in a boat and scooted over to Venezuela from Aruba......not to mention all the ships.  What a hell-hole!   

Now to find out how many times he has actually been there. 

I sure hope the FBI is giving his house the once-over.



God bless Robyn and her loved ones.



 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

It's a wonder we didn't run into each other grace-land!

http://www.manta.com/c/mtcpst1/leverage-llc

Leverage LLC

Website:Information not found
Phone: (301) 527-1955
About Leverage LLC
Is this your company? Claim This Profile
Leverage LLC in Gaithersburg, MD is a private company categorized under Unclassified.    Our records show it was established in and incorporated in Maryland.    Register for free to see additional information such as annual revenue and employment figures.

Leverage LLC Business Information
Location Type   Single Location
Annual Sales (Estimated)    View Details
Employees (Estimated)   2
SIC Code    View Details
NAICS Code   561990, All Other Support Services
Products, Services
and Brands
Information not found
State of Incorporation   Maryland
Years in Business   Information not found

This says it's based in Boston Ma.

wonder if they're connected?

http://www.leverage-marketingllc.com/7.html

http://www.facebook.com/pages/LEVERAGE-LLC/289639334485?sk=info

I see a couple things right off the bat that make me think ARUBA...

Absolut
DJ's

hmmm


http://www.leverage-marketingllc.com/2.html

Services:

Nationwide staffing services for Promotional, Event, and Guerila Marketing placing working models on every Campaign
Marketing Consulting
Marketing campaign development
Actual Product Response
Mobile Media Projection
Entertainment management
Concept and Idea Development
Product Placement and Distribution
Media and Public Relations
IMC
Premiums Production
Branding
Customer Retention Campaigns
Added Value Campaigns
Audits
Market Segmentation and Research
Experiential Marketing
Corporate Hospitality
Presentation
Product Launches
In store Demos
Nationwide Tours
Vehicle launches
Bar Programs
Scouting
Nightlife Promotions
DJ's
Concept Road Tours
Nationwide shipping and Warehousing

http://www.leverage-marketingllc.com/3.html

Our Company

Leverage is a boutique agency created to assist clients in a complete 360 degree concept of Marketing,bringing ideas to reality and targeting the right demographic.
We are the only agency which provides real time feedback to our clients,actual product response and measurements. We pride ourselves in being the only agency who can provide a complete product or service solution from idea to marketing campaign,branding and premiums creation.

Our team specializes in Staffing the Best Models(Print or Commercial)for every Marketing Campaign using a innovative hiring approach as well as developing cutting edge events, targeting exact Consumers

Leverage is designed to meet all clients needs on a customized and individual basis , using our staff's creativity,hard work and inside knowledge of the vast Marketing World!

We promise our clients excellence and results!

http://www.leverage-marketingllc.com/4.html

Clients:

Pernod Ricard

Legacy Marketing

Nokia

Absolut

Malibu

Jameson




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 10:14:41 PM
::MonkeyHaHa::

It's a wonder we didn't run into each other grace-land!

http://www.manta.com/c/mtcpst1/leverage-llc

Leverage LLC

Leverage LLC
12413 Pueblo Road
Gaithersburg, MD    20878-2059
map

Website:Information not found
Phone: (301) 527-1955
About Leverage LLC
Is this your company? Claim This Profile
Leverage LLC in Gaithersburg, MD is a private company categorized under Unclassified.    Our records show it was established in and incorporated in Maryland.    Register for free to see additional information such as annual revenue and employment figures.

Leverage LLC Business Information
Location Type   Single Location
Annual Sales (Estimated)    View Details
Employees (Estimated)   2
SIC Code    View Details
NAICS Code   561990, All Other Support Services
Products, Services
and Brands
Information not found
State of Incorporation   Maryland
Years in Business   Information not found

This says it's based in Boston Ma.

wonder if they're connected?

http://www.leverage-marketingllc.com/7.html

http://www.facebook.com/pages/LEVERAGE-LLC/289639334485?sk=info

I see a couple things right off the bat that make me think ARUBA...

Absolut
DJ's

hmmm


http://www.leverage-marketingllc.com/2.html

Services:

Nationwide staffing services for Promotional, Event, and Guerila Marketing placing working models on every Campaign
Marketing Consulting
Marketing campaign development
Actual Product Response
Mobile Media Projection
Entertainment management
Concept and Idea Development
Product Placement and Distribution
Media and Public Relations
IMC
Premiums Production
Branding
Customer Retention Campaigns
Added Value Campaigns
Audits
Market Segmentation and Research
Experiential Marketing
Corporate Hospitality
Presentation
Product Launches
In store Demos
Nationwide Tours
Vehicle launches
Bar Programs
Scouting
Nightlife Promotions
DJ's
Concept Road Tours
Nationwide shipping and Warehousing

http://www.leverage-marketingllc.com/3.html

Our Company

Leverage is a boutique agency created to assist clients in a complete 360 degree concept of Marketing,bringing ideas to reality and targeting the right demographic.
We are the only agency which provides real time feedback to our clients,actual product response and measurements. We pride ourselves in being the only agency who can provide a complete product or service solution from idea to marketing campaign,branding and premiums creation.

Our team specializes in Staffing the Best Models(Print or Commercial)for every Marketing Campaign using a innovative hiring approach as well as developing cutting edge events, targeting exact Consumers

Leverage is designed to meet all clients needs on a customized and individual basis , using our staff's creativity,hard work and inside knowledge of the vast Marketing World!

We promise our clients excellence and results!

http://www.leverage-marketingllc.com/4.html

Clients:

Pernod Ricard

Legacy Marketing

Nokia

Absolut

Malibu

Jameson


I don't know how I lost the info above in blue before I posted.  I know I pasted it!   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 12, 2011, 10:21:39 PM
snipped....

he $1 million home Giordano owns in Gaithersburg is also the address of the IT staffing company he owns that has a staff of two and a revenue of $88,000 per year, News4's Jackie Bensen reported. In 2003, Giordano was arrested for shoplifting armloads of electronics from discount stores and getting away in a silver Mercedes-Benz station wagon.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/breaking/127472628.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 10:24:28 PM
snipped....

he $1 million home Giordano owns in Gaithersburg is also the address of the IT staffing company he owns that has a staff of two and a revenue of $88,000 per year, News4's Jackie Bensen reported. In 2003, Giordano was arrested for shoplifting armloads of electronics from discount stores and getting away in a silver Mercedes-Benz station wagon.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/breaking/127472628.html

Thanks labubske!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2011, 10:29:55 PM
Texasmom  ::MonkeyHaHa::

When I was gathering information about his business, I pressed a wrong button and ended up in cyber space--but I'm back!  ::piggy::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Samarie on August 12, 2011, 10:33:55 PM
snipped....

he $1 million home Giordano owns in Gaithersburg is also the address of the IT staffing company he owns that has a staff of two and a revenue of $88,000 per year, News4's Jackie Bensen reported. In 2003, Giordano was arrested for shoplifting armloads of electronics from discount stores and getting away in a silver Mercedes-Benz station wagon.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/breaking/127472628.html

Thanks labubske!   ::MonkeyCool::

I'm not buying this business stuff. I think it's a front for something more sinister...like porn. He's a sexual predator, has been caught filming partners unknowingly, uses social media to contact young attractive women, promises photo shoots, shop lifts, etc. He claims his business makes only 88,000/yr with 2 staff...bulldinky. This guy is Casey Anthony's dream date....and a murdering sociopath. JMHO


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2011, 10:43:18 PM
http://gaithersburg.patch.com/articles/fbi-searching-giordanos-gaithersburg-home

FBI Searching Giordano's Gaithersburg Home
Man believed connected to woman's disappearance.
By Doug Tallman 9:44pm 

FBI agents from Baltimore searched the home of Gary Giordano, the man held by Aruban law enforcement for the disappearance of Robyn Gardner.

Special Agent Richard Wolf said Friday night that agents arrived about 8:45 p.m. and were still conducting the search 45 minutes later.

"We're working with the Aruban authorities. We have enough probable cause to conduct a search warrant at the gentleman's residence," Wolf said.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 10:48:10 PM
Hey Texasmom!     ::HelloKitty::

Thanks for the link to the GMA video and story, I hadn't seen it. 

I feel so sick about this!

Oh my God!  This guy has tried to recruit girls specifically to Aruba.....The transit point for human trafficking.  It creeps me out how quickly you could get tossed in a boat and scooted over to Venezuela from Aruba......not to mention all the ships.  What a hell-hole!   

Now to find out how many times he has actually been there. 

I sure hope the FBI is giving his house the once-over.

God bless Robyn and her loved ones.


You're welcome!  

I know, and it's scary to even think about it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2011, 10:49:53 PM
http://northpotomac.patch.com/articles/photo-slideshow-news-trucks-line-mcdonald-chapel-drive#photo-7354493

PHOTO SLIDESHOW: News Trucks Line McDonald Chapel Drive
News crews were spotted outside of the home of a man suspected in the disappearance of a Frederick woman.
By Garine Isassi Email the author8:15pm


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 10:54:12 PM
Texasmom  ::MonkeyHaHa::

When I was gathering information about his business, I pressed a wrong button and ended up in cyber space--but I'm back!  ::piggy::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 10:57:00 PM
http://northpotomac.patch.com/articles/photo-slideshow-news-trucks-line-mcdonald-chapel-drive#photo-7354493

PHOTO SLIDESHOW: News Trucks Line McDonald Chapel Drive
News crews were spotted outside of the home of a man suspected in the disappearance of a Frederick woman.
By Garine Isassi Email the author8:15pm


http://northpotomac.patch.com/articles/photo-slideshow-news-trucks-line-mcdonald-chapel-drive#photo-7354494

Garine Isassi
10:27pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
At 10:30pm a county police car and five other unmarked cars were parked in the driveway of the home. Reporters had bright lights on the street and several people from the neighborhood were standing on the sidewalks to see what was going on.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 11:18:43 PM
snipped....

he $1 million home Giordano owns in Gaithersburg is also the address of the IT staffing company he owns that has a staff of two and a revenue of $88,000 per year, News4's Jackie Bensen reported. In 2003, Giordano was arrested for shoplifting armloads of electronics from discount stores and getting away in a silver Mercedes-Benz station wagon.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/breaking/127472628.html

Thanks labubske!   ::MonkeyCool::

I'm not buying this business stuff. I think it's a front for something more sinister...like porn. He's a sexual predator, has been caught filming partners unknowingly, uses social media to contact young attractive women, promises photo shoots, shop lifts, etc. He claims his business makes only 88,000/yr with 2 staff...bulldinky. This guy is Casey Anthony's dream date....and a murdering sociopath. JMHO

Wouldn't surprise me at all.  He's a sicko! 

And Aruba and porn go hand in hand as well.

jmo



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 12, 2011, 11:46:38 PM
http://www.gazette.net/article/20110812/NEWS/708129527/1009/man-not-cooperating-in-aruba-investigation&template=gazette

Friday, August 12, 2011
 
Man not cooperating in Aruba investigation

Gaithersburg resident Giordano refuses to give DNA sample in disappearance of woman


A Gaithersburg man arrested in connection with the disappearance of a Frederick woman in Aruba is no longer cooperating with police, Aruban officials said.

Gary Giordano, 50, of Gaithersburg was arrested Aug. 5 — three days after Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick was last seen — and is refusing to give a DNA sample to Aruban investigators or answer their questions, said Taco H.W. Stein, a spokesman for the Office of the Public Prosecutor in Aruba, who refers to the two by their initials, R.G. and G.V.G.

The prosecutor's office has submitted a court order to get a sample of Giordano's DNA, Stein said.

“In the U.S., you would say that the subject has pleaded the Fifth,” he said, referring to the man's right not to incriminate himself.

On Monday, the prosecutor's office released a photo of Giordano, hoping that anyone who saw him since he arrived on the island July 31 will contact the Aruban Police Force.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 12, 2011, 11:58:33 PM
http://www.facebook.com/gary.giordano2

sure this has been posted but couldn't find it when I quickly glanced through.

This FB comes up with his email address that is attached to his business...is it okay to post that (it may already be posted)?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 13, 2011, 12:02:07 AM
http://whois.domaintools.com/leverage-us.com
Domain Name.......... leverage-us.com
  Creation Date........ 2005-02-19
  Registration Date.... 2005-02-19
  Expiry Date.......... 2013-02-19
  Organisation Name.... Gary Giordano
  Organisation Address. 12413 Pueblo Road
  Organisation Address.
  Organisation Address. Gaithersburg
  Organisation Address. 20878
  Organisation Address. MD
  Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Gary Giordano
  Admin Address........ 12413 Pueblo Road
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  Admin Address........ Gaithersburg
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  Admin Address........ MD
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  Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 13, 2011, 12:14:07 AM
with that same email address it brings up this Myspace...50 year old from Cape Coral, FL (huh?)

http://www.myspace.com/426371802

Wonder what connections he has in Cape Coral?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2011, 01:42:46 AM
http://issuu.com/awemainta/docs/13aug2011?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true (http://issuu.com/awemainta/docs/13aug2011?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true)

How many bodies might they find down there?   ::MonkeyEek::
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6126/6037069721_4689627b16_b.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6195/6037069769_cd64b5f976_b.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6131/6037621266_c71d45c1b6_b.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 01:47:49 AM
Thanks Klaas!  So they are still looking for her!   

::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 13, 2011, 01:50:39 AM
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Police and firefighters have searched an abandoned phosphate mine in Aruba as investigators seek clues in the disappearance of an American tourist and evidence against the man who accompanied her to the Caribbean.

Journalists saw a firefighter leave the mine with a pink shirt and sandals, but it was unclear if they were connected to the investigation. Officials declined to say why the mine at the rocky, cactus-studded southern tip of the island was being searched and the effort was ended late Friday because of darkness. No body or other evidence was seen being taken from the small mine, which is within view of the sea.


http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Aruba-officials-search-mine-for-missing-American-1912991.php



Wow right near Baby Beach - Are there more in this area - I know there are on other side, but didn't realize how convenient this would be for Giordano - sickening


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 01:50:55 AM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

 ::snipping2::

Robin Arcuri
To the women in this world. I remain perplexed as to why anyone would go to Aruba after ONE woman disappears much less 4. The more attention Aruba gets, whether bad or good, just brings them business because people see the tranquil beaches and want to go. The fact that Robyn went there just shows that nobody thinks it will happen to them, it looks so safe, and that case after case is just a coincidence. Once we stop thinking this way, and accept reality, that Aruba is on the tier 2 list for human trafficking, women may decide to vaca somewhere safer. I really hope and pray that Robyn is found. ♥ to her family.
57 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 01:56:46 AM
http://arubaherald.com/local/815-authorities-conduct-massive-search-for-body-of-missing-american-woman.html

Authorities conduct massive search for body of missing American woman         

Friday, 12 August 2011 21:18
 
 
On Friday, members of a special division of the local Police Corps together with firefighters held a search for the body of an American woman who was reported missing on Aruba last week Tuesday in the area north of the Dog Cementery in Sero Colorado. Firefighters were lowered into different crevices that used to be covered; through the years they were either opened or their covers had been destroyed.

The search was stopped at sunset. Firefighters said water reached up to their knees inside the holes. No traces of a body nor any proof of the presence of a body were found. Authorities conducted the search with the intention of eliminating doubts related to the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, a 35-year-old American woman who was reported missing by her travel companion during a snorkeling trip last week.
 ::snipping2::

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_480_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug12_search_IMG-20110812-00444.jpg)

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_426_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug12_search_IMG_7745.JPG)

More pictures at the link


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 13, 2011, 01:58:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K81T9nrtho

this is a video of people actually in a phosphate mine in Sero Colorado - looks like they go on quite a ways -


Were these investigated during Natalee's searches?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 13, 2011, 02:05:25 AM
Was it reported what she was wearing that day - Obviously according to Giordano's report she had a swimsuit on, but do the witnesses who saw her at lunch recall what she had on?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:09:40 AM
Maybe checking the sand dunes?

http://arubaherald.com/local/815-authorities-conduct-massive-search-for-body-of-missing-american-woman.html

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_426_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug12_search_IMG_7887.JPG)

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_426_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug12_search_IMG_7890.JPG)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:11:05 AM
Was it reported what she was wearing that day - Obviously according to Giordano's report she had a swimsuit on, but do the witnesses who saw her at lunch recall what she had on?

If it has been reported, I missed it.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:15:24 AM
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Police and firefighters have searched an abandoned phosphate mine in Aruba as investigators seek clues in the disappearance of an American tourist and evidence against the man who accompanied her to the Caribbean.

Journalists saw a firefighter leave the mine with a pink shirt and sandals, but it was unclear if they were connected to the investigation. Officials declined to say why the mine at the rocky, cactus-studded southern tip of the island was being searched and the effort was ended late Friday because of darkness. No body or other evidence was seen being taken from the small mine, which is within view of the sea.


http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Aruba-officials-search-mine-for-missing-American-1912991.php



Wow right near Baby Beach - Are there more in this area - I know there are on other side, but didn't realize how convenient this would be for Giordano - sickening

http://arubaherald.com/local/815-authorities-conduct-massive-search-for-body-of-missing-american-woman.html

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_426_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug12_search_IMG_7912.JPG)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:21:31 AM
http://arubaherald.com/911/814-fbi-stops-robyn-gardners-boyfriend-richard-forester-of-talking-to-the-media.html

FBI stops Robyn Gardner's boyfriend Richard Forester of talking to the media         

Friday, 12 August 2011 16:34
 
Now that the FBI is also involved in the investigation of the disappeared woman Robyn Gardner the FBI has stopped her boyfriend Richard Gardner of talking to the media. Richard informs that the FBI feels that it could harm the investigations.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:28:02 AM
http://www.awe24.com/20110812/8174/Diabierna_atardi_autoridad_a_organiza_un_buskeda_cu_ayudo_di_diferente_cuerpo_y

Papiamentu translation:

diabierna nightfall autoridad owing to organiza one buskeda cu aid of various cuerpo y instancia


12 of august 2011 17:09

relaciona cu the buskeda of the lady tourist perdi, diabierna nightfall various instancia owing to organiza one buskeda in the area near of baby beach but memey of the barancanan at baby beach. we will follow informa cu all imagen y detaye.


(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8174/1_1313187956.jpg)

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8174/2_1313187957.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 03:05:30 AM
Aruba Looking For Leads In Gardner Case

Published on Aug 12, 2011 by wbal

Aruban prosecutors will ask a judge
to continue detaining a Maryland man suspected of involvement in
the death of his travel companion on the Caribbean island. David Collins reports.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFslQQsAVy4


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 13, 2011, 03:57:12 AM
It's not right to second guess, but... can't these searchers get a camera and tie it to a string and lower the camera down the mine shaft? I would think that would be safer and faster.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 10:30:16 AM
Robyn Gardner news: FBI searching Maryland home of Gary Giordano
August 13, 2011


Gaithersburg, Md. - On Friday, FBI agents searched the Gaithersburg, Md. home of Gary Giordano – the man who traveled with missing woman Robyn Gardner to Aruba.

Giordano, 50, is currently being held on the island nation by Aruban authorities in connection with Robyn's disappearance. He called police on Aug. 2 at about 6:30 p.m. to report that Robyn, 35, had vanished while the two were snorkeling off the western coast of Aruba at a location called Baby Beach. He was detained by authorities at the airport while trying to head back to the U.S.

Reports indicate Giordano has now stopped cooperating with police and has announced through his Aruban attorney he had nothing to do with Robyn's disappearance.

According to the Kensington Patch, Special Agent Richard Wolf said that FBI agents began searching Giordano's residence at about 8:45 p.m. and 45 minutes later were still engaged in the search.

“We're working with the Aruban authorities. We have enough probable cause to conduct a search warrant at the gentleman's residence,” he noted.

<snipped>

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/robyn-gardner-news-fbi-searching-maryland-home-of-gary-giordano


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: seahorse on August 13, 2011, 10:47:35 AM
Goodmorning monkey's,

Thanks for all the links and information. 

Texasmom thanks for the jar-dropping excellent photos of his drop dead glorious house.  Was it built in 2004?

This guy reminds me of why we are told not to "talk to strangers".  It sounds corny, same holds true as an adult.

A stranger came to the door, I asked where is your car, she replied, she was "dropped off", I said, excuse me

and picked up my digitial camera,took a picture of her, her didn't have much to say  except "Ekk-what was that for"? 

I think I got rid of her for awhile. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 11:31:53 AM
Goodmorning monkey's,

Thanks for all the links and information. 

Texasmom thanks for the jar-dropping excellent photos of his drop dead glorious house.  Was it built in 2004?

This guy reminds me of why we are told not to "talk to strangers".  It sounds corny, same holds true as an adult.

A stranger came to the door, I asked where is your car, she replied, she was "dropped off", I said, excuse me

and picked up my digitial camera,took a picture of her, her didn't have much to say  except "Ekk-what was that for"? 

I think I got rid of her for awhile. ::MonkeyEek::

Good morning all!  Thank you Lord for the rain!   ::MonkeyRain:: ::MonkeyHeart::
We're getting a good soaking rain...no thunder and lightning...such a blessing to wake up to!

You're welcome Seahorse, from this snip of the property records I'd say it was built before 2004.

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/rp_rewrite/details.aspx?County=16&SearchType=STREET&AccountNumber=06%2003406414
 ::snipping2::
Transfer Information
Seller:   WINCHESTER HOMES INC   Date:   02/16/2005   Price:   $1,224,215
Type:   ARMS LENGTH IMPROVED   Deed1:    /29282/ 00073   Deed2:   
Seller:   JOHNSON ENTERPRISES   Date:   03/28/2003   Price:   $2,040,000
Type:   ARMS LENGTH MULTIPLE   Deed1:    /23377/ 00046   Deed2: 
 ::snipping2::

You're a very smart monkey, taking the picture...I'll have to remember that!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 11:50:54 AM
http://www.facebook.com/gary.giordano2

sure this has been posted but couldn't find it when I quickly glanced through.

This FB comes up with his email address that is attached to his business...is it okay to post that (it may already be posted)?

I missed this last night, I hadn't seen it either.

Thanks labubske!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 12:10:20 PM
TRAGEDY CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE

The Goal of Education

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 189:    It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil.  It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are.  And evil is always two steps ahead. From the outset we never had a chance.  But we didn't know it.  I'm taking leave of the island, but not from the work yet to be done.

Page 208:  The goal of education is twofold: to bring a message about personal safety to high-school and college students and to educate travellers.

Page 209:  Bad things happen everywhere.  But the difference we need to consider when something bad happens outside the country is the help available for the victims and their families.  When we leave these borders, we leave behind all the privileges and rights we're all accustomed to and often take for granted.  We have expectations that there will be a safety net of law-abiding official, no matter where we travel, or that our US embassy will come to our rescue.  But that's terribly naive.


Making a Difference

Talking To Beth Holloway Five Years After Natalee's Disappearance
05/30/10 1:45 pm


She is now focused on her new life's work which was born out of the death of her daughter.

"Tragedy creates an opportunity to make a difference."

Beth tells the story of Natalee's disappearance to high school and college students round the nation as part of her work with the Natalee Holloway Resource Center,which launches in D.C. on June 8

"The Natalee Holloway Resource Center is focusing on education and crime prevention, and in the event that a loved one goes missing we have the resources and the contacts to assist the families."

http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/0510/741129.html

+++++

Website:
Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Facebook:
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

s.t.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2011, 01:00:12 PM
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Police and firefighters have searched an abandoned phosphate mine in Aruba as investigators seek clues in the disappearance of an American tourist and evidence against the man who accompanied her to the Caribbean.

Journalists saw a firefighter leave the mine with a pink shirt and sandals, but it was unclear if they were connected to the investigation. Officials declined to say why the mine at the rocky, cactus-studded southern tip of the island was being searched and the effort was ended late Friday because of darkness. No body or other evidence was seen being taken from the small mine, which is within view of the sea.


http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Aruba-officials-search-mine-for-missing-American-1912991.php



Wow right near Baby Beach - Are there more in this area - I know there are on other side, but didn't realize how convenient this would be for Giordano - sickening

http://arubaherald.com/local/815-authorities-conduct-massive-search-for-body-of-missing-american-woman.html

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_426_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug12_search_IMG_7912.JPG)

Those sandals are similar to the kind Natalee was wearing

Klaas knows exactly what brand of sandals Natalee was wearing, but I have forgotten. ::ElfMonkey::

Rainbow Sandals  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.rainbowsandals.com/

(http://www.rainbowsandals.com/images/Rainbow_04a.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2011, 01:04:54 PM
Sandals appear to be a bit old and weathered to have been Robyn's

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6082/6038395307_60caee538a_b.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Samarie on August 13, 2011, 01:21:34 PM
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Police and firefighters have searched an abandoned phosphate mine in Aruba as investigators seek clues in the disappearance of an American tourist and evidence against the man who accompanied her to the Caribbean.

Journalists saw a firefighter leave the mine with a pink shirt and sandals, but it was unclear if they were connected to the investigation. Officials declined to say why the mine at the rocky, cactus-studded southern tip of the island was being searched and the effort was ended late Friday because of darkness. No body or other evidence was seen being taken from the small mine, which is within view of the sea.


http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Aruba-officials-search-mine-for-missing-American-1912991.php



Wow right near Baby Beach - Are there more in this area - I know there are on other side, but didn't realize how convenient this would be for Giordano - sickening

http://arubaherald.com/local/815-authorities-conduct-massive-search-for-body-of-missing-american-woman.html

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_426_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug12_search_IMG_7912.JPG)

Those sandals are similar to the kind Natalee was wearing

Klaas knows exactly what brand of sandals Natalee was wearing, but I have forgotten. ::ElfMonkey::

Rainbow Sandals  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.rainbowsandals.com/

(http://www.rainbowsandals.com/images/Rainbow_04a.jpg)

It's crossed my mind that while LE is extensively searching for Robyn, they may turn up evidence of other victims or crimes...wouldn't it be ironic and a blessing to find not only Robyn, but Natalee and others that have gone missing in Aruba...something akin to finding those missing women on Long Island, while searching for Shannon Gilbert...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 01:30:19 PM
Considering there was only a three hour span of time between an email communication that Robyn had with Richard Forester and the time the Gary Giordano reported her missing ... it makes sense that the scene of the crime and the disposal of a body could have taken place close to Baby Beach.

While walking along the beach in the a secluded area ... could Robyn Gardner had shared with Gary Giordano that she was getting back together with Richard Forester ... a revelation that caused Gary to react with spontaneous uncontrolled rage.

Janet

++++

Robyn Gardner, Bethesda woman missing in Aruba
August 8, 2011 - 07:20 pm


<snipped>
 
Gardner, who lived and worked in Bethesda, left for Aruba on July 31st. Richard Forester says they had been dating for two and a half years, but quarreled before she left. He received his last e-mail from Gardner Tuesday, three hours before she was reported missing.

“The last message I got from her was ‘I love you,’” Forester said. “We will talk and sort things out when I get back,” Gardner wrote.

<snipped>

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-frederick-woman-missing-in-aruba-64854.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 01:38:33 PM
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Police and firefighters have searched an abandoned phosphate mine in Aruba as investigators seek clues in the disappearance of an American tourist and evidence against the man who accompanied her to the Caribbean.

Journalists saw a firefighter leave the mine with a pink shirt and sandals, but it was unclear if they were connected to the investigation. Officials declined to say why the mine at the rocky, cactus-studded southern tip of the island was being searched and the effort was ended late Friday because of darkness. No body or other evidence was seen being taken from the small mine, which is within view of the sea.


http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Aruba-officials-search-mine-for-missing-American-1912991.php



Wow right near Baby Beach - Are there more in this area - I know there are on other side, but didn't realize how convenient this would be for Giordano - sickening

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Thanks festa.

The condition of the pink shirt appears to indicate it had not been down in the shaft long.  I could be wrong.

Janet


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 02:03:58 PM

BLOCKED WEBSITE




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:30:35 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jQHLS6mpHfQw0vEn8IweF5ZKEfSg?docId=ed38e7b5fda84c7d8be4e63aa3a084d6

Md. man held in Aruba had troubled past with women

By ERIC TUCKER, Associated Press Writers – 1 hour ago 

GAITHERSBURG, Md. (AP) — The man Aruban authorities suspect was involved in the death of his travel companion while visiting the Dutch island courted other women with his blue-green eyes, tall physique and offers of cruises and vacations, and his $1.3 million stone mansion in this upper-class Washington suburb.

But Gary Giordano's ex-romantic interests say the allure was only surface-deep.
Giordano, 50, a self-employed businessman and twice-divorced father of three sons, has denied any wrongdoing through his attorney since the disappearance of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner, who authorities now believe is dead. Her remains have not been found, despite four days of searching the area where Giordano told officials an ocean current pulled her away as they snorkeled Aug. 2. FBI agents combed through his Gaithersburg home Friday night, while Aruban police officers and firefighters searched an abandoned phosphate mine for clues. Nobody was seen being taken from the mine.

 ::snipping2::

His family has stayed mum during the investigation, though a close friend said he can't imagine Giordano being involved in someone's death. Court records and former romantic interests reveal a man who could by turns be charming and threatening and who's had several volatile relationships.

"He can't control his anger," his first wife, Sharon Cohen, wrote in court papers in 2001.

 ::snipping2::

He also continued to live just blocks away from his ex-wife and children, in a contemporary home set apart from the neighborhood by a long, ascending driveway. A sign on the front door advises visitors they're under surveillance. A security camera is mounted atop a gable. Although his house suggests a man who values his privacy, Giordano is also gregarious and fun, said Eric Curtis, a friend who said he regularly hangs out with him in restaurants and bars. He said he's never even seen Giordano raise his voice.

 ::snipping2::

Jeanette Farago, a former neighbor, started dating Giordano around the time of his second divorce. She said Giordano was charismatic but could become angry and possessive, though she said she never felt physically threatened. Once, he wanted to take her on a cruise but became irate when she didn't want to go, she said, a situation Gardner also found herself in, according to a friend.

Farago said Giordano insisted on having her email password so he could ensure she was not seeing anyone else. If she said she was going to the grocery store, he would want photographic proof. Sometimes, she said, he would spy on her and text her details of her outfit so she knew he was watching. He even hid in the woods behind her home to watch her, dressing in a deer costume, she said.

"He's Mr. Perfect," she said, and then he's "totally different."


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:31:39 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/gallery?section=news/national_world&id=8304283&photo=2

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHome1.jpg)

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/gallery?section=news/national_world&id=8304283&photo=3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHome2.jpg)

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/rp_rewrite/details.aspx?County=16&SearchType=STREET&AccountNumber=06%2003406414

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomePropRec1-1.jpg)(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomePropRec2.jpg)

I know that may be hard to read so I'll copy the info here as well...


Account Identifier:   District - 06 Account Number - 03406414
Owner Information
Owner Name:   GIORDANO GARY V
Use:   RESIDENTIAL
Principal Residence:   YES
Mailing Address:   12413 PUEBLO RD
GAITHERSBURG MD 20878-2059   Deed Reference:   1) /29282/ 00073
2)
Location & Structure Information
Premises Address      Legal Description
12413 PUEBLO RD      WILLOW RIDGE
GAITHERSBURG 20878-2059      
Map   Grid   Parcel   Sub District   Subdivision   Section   Block   Lot   Assessment Area   Plat No:   22518
ES53   0000   0000      0032      D   1   1   Plat Ref:   
Special Tax Areas   Town   NONE
Ad Valorem   
Tax Class   53
Primary Structure Built   Enclosed Area   Property Land Area   County Use
2004   5,174 SF   3.4400 AC   818
Stories   Basement   Type   Exterior
2.000000   YES   STANDARD UNIT   SIDING
Value Information
Base Value   Value   Phase-in Assessments
As Of
01/01/2010   As Of
07/01/2010   As Of
07/01/2011   
Land   399,920   281,200
Improvements:   939,960   775,400
Total:   1,339,880   1,056,600   1,056,600   1,056,600
Preferential Land:   0         0
Transfer Information
Seller:   WINCHESTER HOMES INC   Date:   02/16/2005   Price:   $1,224,215
Type:   ARMS LENGTH IMPROVED   Deed1:    /29282/ 00073   Deed2:   
Seller:   JOHNSON ENTERPRISES   Date:   03/28/2003   Price:   $2,040,000
Type:   ARMS LENGTH MULTIPLE   Deed1:    /23377/ 00046   Deed2:   
Seller:      Date:      Price:   
Type:      Deed1:      Deed2:   
Exemption Information
Partial Exempt Assessments   Class   07/01/2011   07/01/2012
County         0.00
State         0.00
Municipal         0.00
Tax Exempt:      Special Tax Recapture:
Exempt Class:       * NONE *

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/rp_rewrite/maps/showmap.asp?countyid=16&accountid=06+03406414

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomemap1-1.jpg)

Google maps...

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&biw=1024&bih=649&q=%2212413+PUEBLO+RD+GAITHERSBURG+MD%22&gs_upl=2865l12013l0l12296l3l3l0l0l0l0l225l477l0.2.1l3l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x89b62d91f70aac0d:0xc00622a0fc291e47,12413+Pueblo+Rd,+Gaithersburg,+MD+20878&gl=us&ei=FsVFTsCaLMensAKVttX_BQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ8gEwAA

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomeView1.jpg)

I'm not sure if it's the big house that sits off by itself...or one of the smaller ones that you can barely see in all the trees closer to the street.  The red marker indicates the drive to the big house...but looking at the maps/markers etc...maybe one of the smaller houses?...but then again he has almost 3 1/2 acres.

Here's a closer pic of the big house...

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_GiordanoHomeview2.jpg)

He is less than 500 feet from the elementary school!   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


If that last article is correct, his house is the one down the long driveway...away from the other homes.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:33:56 PM
"He's Mr. Perfect," she said, and then he's "totally different."

Remind you of anyone?

 ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 02:44:18 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/robyn-gardiner-missing-aruba-fbi-searches-suspect-gary-giordano-maryland-home-14296930

Missing in Aruba: FBI Searches Suspect's Home

Former FBI special agent Brad Garrett on the disappearance of Robyn Gardner.

02:37 | 08/13/2011

VIDEO (interesting, imo)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 02:47:33 PM
"He's Mr. Perfect," she said, and then he's "totally different."
The Associated Press Aug 13, 2011 12:50:00


GAITHERSBURG, Md. - The man Aruban authorities suspect was involved in the death of his travel companion while visiting the Dutch island courted other women with his blue-green eyes, tall physique and offers of cruises and vacations, and his $1.3 million stone mansion in this upper-class Washington suburb.

But Gary Giordano's ex-romantic interests say the allure was only surface-deep.

<snipped>

"He can't control his anger," his first wife, Sharon Cohen, wrote in court papers in 2001.

Giordano married Cohen in 1987, several years after earning a degree in computer science from the University of Maryland. The couple had three sons, but the relationship deteriorated until they finalized their divorce in 2003. At one point, each accused the other of abuse, with Giordano alleging that his wife struck him in the back with a steel cooking spoon during a heated argument.

She countered that he had a nasty temper, throwing phones, cursing and becoming violent with one of their sons.

<snipped>

http://www.570news.com/news/world/article/263887--md-businessman-held-in-woman-s-death-in-aruba-had-history-of-troubled-relationships




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 03:17:10 PM
Hopefully Mark Benson Denz will post this on his English language site as well, but so far it's not there.

I think it says that Robyn was wearing tennis shoes the last day she was seen.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35383-gary-giordano-a-bin-cu-dos-set-di-duikbril-cu-snorkel-pero-un-solo-set-di-flepper.html

Papiamentu translation:

gary giordano owing to come cu two thirst of duikbril cu snorkel but one sun thirst of flepper

saturday, 13 august 2011 13:26

the pareha mericano gary giordano y also robyn gardner owing to arrive aruba for some day of vacacion. the investigacion policial is for achieve know if the sospechoso owing to huur fleppers cu duikbril at aruba. till at the momentonan here is show cu gary giordano self owing to come cu his equipment for go duik. the equipment was consisti of two thirst of duikbril cu snorkel but one sun thirst of flepper.

the fleppernan here is gary giordano was tine dress. this the advocate owing to confirma in one combersacion cu we was have cune. then robyn gardner self was cu keds dress according declaracion of some witness in the area of hill colorado. do not conoci if past owing to enter water cu the kedsnan. today the lama is much bruto because is one area cu several lama is come across another y the wind also is play one rol. do not first tourist cu is die in the area. in the caso here, the day provided that encuestion the lama was plat plat y not was have wind. the tuesday y the diaranzon of the buskeda the lama was calmo calmo. the tormenta tropical emily owing to go cu all the wind y at aruba was have one calor insoportable. the unique cos cu have to stay confirma is the coriente in lama con strong this was. is buscando claridad dikon gary giordano owing to go let robyn gardner.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 03:23:23 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35382-take-me-out-of-here-tabata-e-sms-di-robyn-gardner-pa-gary-giordano.html

Papiamentu translation:

“take me out of here” was the sms of robyn gardner for gary giordano

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug13.gary_robyn.jpg)

saturday, 13 august 2011 13:22

cu the words “take me out of here” via sms was sufficient for gary lever internet y so prepara one biahe for aruba. first trip cu gary giordano is arrive aruba. con they owing to escoge aruba? in the caso here gary owing to lever internet for google one destinacion y so owing to escoge aruba hour cu this owing to present on dje.

algo was dwars end at merca close robyn cu wanted owing to follow of biahe. all cos owing to go good hour they owing to arrive aruba till cu tuesday nightfall late. tuesday nightfall the situation for gary giordano owing to change totalmente. past owing to beat alarma for desaparicion of the lady cu past owing to come cune aruba. although both have one seguro close by of gary giordano self, tog do not one seguro of life but more bien the seguro of biahe. robyn gardner seems owing to arrive recien for of one biahe cu amiganan. past owing to lie his frei of is bayendo florida y owing to end up at aruba cu one another man. today the is perdi y gary giordano cu owing to cubri his gastonan for aruba is close.

not have none clase of proof the momentonan here contra gary giordano. more bien have one or more declaracion cu is similar at the others haci end. the car confisca seems owing to wordo entrega bek end. recherche is investigando y have yudanza of another departamentonan for so busca y deal at achieve the evidencia for less all doubt cu have. monday if is good gary giordano have to present close huez comisario. if not have material sufficient nifica cu gary giordano can go pound.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 03:31:44 PM
Gary can sue Aruba for millions for defamation...if they don't find some proof.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Hopefully, the FBI will be able to help with something recovered from his home.    ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/35384-michael-lopez-contrario-na-declaracion-di-ministerio-publico-mi-cliente-ta-coperando.html

Papiamentu translation:

michael lopez: contrario at declaracion of ministerio publico, my cliente is coperando

saturday, 13 august 2011 13:41

gary giordano can haci one demanda miyonario of difamacion contra country aruba. if not achieve proof y gary giordano leave pound, country aruba can achieve his self in problem earnest. this owing to medio wordo menciona end by of the advocate self of gary giordano. the sospechoso gary giordano is feel cu his name owing to wordo atacha strongly y will stroba all the carera of his business.

his business is strong y is even owing to arrive of draai ultimo añanan suma of one miyon dollar for year. thing is pasando where past owing to stay deteni y his name is skeiro all caminda rond merca is causando much damage at his good imagen according the advocate. pesey self already end is wordo talk of one demanda big cu consecuencia miyonario for difamacion. the problem of the advocate y gary giordano is the form cu autoridad owing to actua. gary giordano owing to ofrece his self for stay for bienestar of the investigacion but owing to go over at his detencion saliendo of aruba for merca.. the sospechoso owing to wordo conseha by of the advocate for we give declaracion.

sinembargo this not owing to sosode 100% because gary giordano owing to declara what owing to sosode. on nine pagina past owing to contesta the questions cu two acolyte of recherché owing to haci at dje. cu ministerio publico is tell cu gary giordano do not coperando do not berdad. according mr michael lopez advocate of the sospechoso, my cliente is contesta y berdad at cierto caminda is referi the contestanan at the first declaracion cu past owing to haci. esey is the caso.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 03:46:47 PM
One of Giordano's FB friends...omg...(her pics) she reminds me so much of Natalee.   ::MonkeyWaa::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000858021045

She only has 26 friends...how does he fit in here?   ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 03:51:34 PM
One of Giordano's FB friends...omg...(her pics) she reminds me so much of Natalee.   ::MonkeyWaa::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000858021045

She only has 26 friends...how does he fit in here?   ::MonkeyEek::



Very few comments on her wall...but what is there...   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

And Gary was her first "friend". 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 03:52:42 PM
Md. businessman held in woman's death in Aruba had history of troubled relationships
The Associated Press Aug 13, 2011 12:50:00


GAITHERSBURG, Md. - The man Aruban authorities suspect was involved in the death of his travel companion while visiting the Dutch island courted other women with his blue-green eyes, tall physique and offers of cruises and vacations, and his $1.3 million stone mansion in this upper-class Washington suburb.

But Gary Giordano's ex-romantic interests say the allure was only surface-deep.

<snipped>

"He can't control his anger," his first wife, Sharon Cohen, wrote in court papers in 2001.

<snipped>

http://www.570news.com/news/world/article/263887--md-businessman-held-in-woman-s-death-in-aruba-had-history-of-troubled-relationships


Could it be that three hours prior to reporting her missing ... Gary read Robyn's email to Richard ... an email that implied she wanted a reconciliation with her former boyfriend?  Could it be an uncontrollable rage ... the same uncontrollable rage that Joran van der Sloot admittedly possesses ... resulted in the demise of Robyn.

Considering Robyn did travel to Aruba with Gary ... it can be assumed that something akin to Jeanette Farago she did not feel physically threatened until the perceived betrayal which was revealed in the email to Robyn's former boyfriend.

Janet

++++++


12:50 on August 13, 2011, EDT.
Md. businessman held in woman's death in Aruba had history of troubled relationships


<snipped>

Jeanette Farago, a former neighbour, started dating Giordano around the time of his second divorce. She said Giordano was charismatic but could become angry and possessive, though she said she never felt physically threatened. Once, he wanted to take her on a cruise but became irate when she didn't want to go, she said, a situation Gardner also found herself in, according to a friend.

Farago said Giordano insisted on having her email password so he could ensure she was not seeing anyone else. If she said she was going to the grocery store, he would want photographic proof. Sometimes, she said, he would spy on her and text her details of her outfit so she knew he was watching. He even hid in the woods behind her home to watch her, dressing in a deer costume, she said
 
<snipped>

http://www.qr77.com/News/World/Article.aspx?id=298535


Van der Sloot Confesses
DUTCHMAN SAYS HE KILLED PERUVIAN WOMAN IN FIT OF RAGE
updated Jun 8, 2010 7:38 AM CDT


Peruvian police have obtained what Aruba couldn't: a murder confession from Joran Van der Sloot in the killing of a young woman. The Dutchman has admitted killing Stephany Flores, 21, in his Lima hotel room, a Peruvian government official tells MSNBC. Van der Sloot says he broke her neck in a fit of rage when she used his laptop computer without permission  and discovered he was involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, according to reports in the Peruvian media.

"I did not want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life," Van der Sloot is quoted as saying.

http://www.newser.com/story/91709/van-der-sloot-confesses.html




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 03:53:05 PM
How old do you think she is Klaas?  She looks very young to me.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2011, 03:55:49 PM
One of Giordano's FB friends...omg...(her pics) she reminds me so much of Natalee.   ::MonkeyWaa::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000858021045

She only has 26 friends...how does he fit in here?   ::MonkeyEek::



Gold digger - my bet is Hott isn't her real last name


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2011, 03:56:34 PM
She looks between 16-18 to me and looking for someone to buy stuff for her.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 03:59:38 PM
One of Giordano's FB friends...omg...(her pics) she reminds me so much of Natalee.   ::MonkeyWaa::

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000858021045

She only has 26 friends...how does he fit in here?   ::MonkeyEek::



Gold digger - my bet is Hott isn't her real last name

I agree.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 04:00:45 PM
She looks between 16-18 to me and looking for someone to buy stuff for her.

That's what I was thinking too.  Sad...so pretty but obviously headed on the wrong path.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/13/shirt-in-aruba-mine-not-linked-to-us-woman/

Shirt in Aruba mine not linked to US woman

Published August 13, 2011

| Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba –  An Aruban official says a shirt and sandals found during a search of the island did not belong to a missing Maryland woman.

Solicitor General Taco Stein tells The Associated Press that police conducted a careful analysis of the pink shirt and black sandals after the items were found during a search of an abandoned phosphate mine.

He said Saturday that authorities believe there is no reason to send the items to the Netherlands for further testing. The clothing was found during a search for the remains of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner in the southern Dutch Caribbean island.

 ::snipping2::
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/13/shirt-in-aruba-mine-not-linked-to-us-woman/#ixzz1UwYm7vB3


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 05:30:22 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked::

When did Dilma Arends Geerman become an editor for the Associated Press?

Anyways ... if no body and no evidence is located but Mark Gio Giordano is charged under Dutch law with the the murder of Robyn Gardner ... inquiring minds are going to demand an explanation as to why Joran van der Sloot was given a pass.

1. Think about all Joran's lies encompassing the his contact with Natalee Holloway just prior to her disappearance.

2. Think about Joran's history in regards to sexual assault against women.

3. Think about the immediate discovery of Natalee's cell phone and passport.

4. Think about the precidence in Dutch law regarding charges without the location of a body.


Janet

+++++

The Robyn Gardner Case

Aruba officials search mine for missing American
DILMA ARENDS GEERMAN, Associated Press
Updated 01:08 a.m., Saturday, August 13, 2011


<snipped>

After so many days, authorities no longer believe the Maryland woman could be alive, so they are holding Giordano on suspicion of involvement in her death. Her remains have not been recovered despite a search of more than four days in the sea and on the coastline in the area where she was reported missing.

"As long as we don't have a body, you can question whether or not she is dead," Stein told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "On the other hand, with all the publicity on the case, if she were still alive she would have made herself known."

Other factors also lead to the conclusion she is dead, Stein told reporters. Police have recovered her passport from her belongings and don't believe she could have left the island by air with a false identity. They have also found no evidence that she left Aruba by boat.

<snipped>

http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Aruba-officials-search-mine-for-missing-American-1912991.php


The Natalee Holloway Case

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Oct. 27th
updated 10/28/2005 11:19:24 AM ET


<snipped>

COSBY:  Is there a possibility she may have run away?  Can you exclude that? 

GEROLD DOMPIG, DEPUTY POLICY CHIEF OF ARUBA:  No, not at all, because you have to keep an open mind, of course.  But don‘t forget that, if we look at the statements from especially Joran, I have received today an overview of all the several moments where he has basically lied.  And that‘s a lot.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9849849/ns/msnbc_tv-rita_cosby_specials/t/rita-cosby-live-direct-oct-th/


Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 41:   The DEA agent asks for Natalee's cell phone and passport. I don't want to reach into her bag, but I don't want anyone else to touch it either. A little carry-on purse is attached to the side of it. Inside are her passport, cell phone, and some cash right on the top. I remove them and zip the purse back. The agent looks at Natalee's things a few moments, then gives them back to me. I return Natalee's things to her little purse as I walk back to the hotel room to leave her bag there.


Summons and Complaint
Elizabeth Ann Twitty and Dave Edward Holloway
vs. Joran van der Sloot and Paulus van der Sloot


<snippe>

 12. On at least three occasions prior to May 2005, young Aruban women alleged that they were victims of “date rape” perpetrated by Joran and his accomplices

<snipped>.
 
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/hway/hwayvds21606cmp5.html


Posted 7/1/2005 2:25 PM     Updated 7/1/2005 8:28 PM
Aruba prosecutor: Charges likely in Ala. teen's disappearance


<snipped>
 
Janssen said the prosecution was centering its case around e-mail and cell phone text messages written between the suspects the night Holloway disappeared. Janssen declined to offer further details about the messages, but said not having a body would make getting a murder conviction "more difficult but not impossible."

<snipped>

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-07-01-aruba_x.htm
 








Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 13, 2011, 06:34:43 PM
An Aruban double standard?  You bet!  Aruban investigators do not have a cover up agenda to protect the main suspect in the Robyn Gardner case ... a cover up agenda to prevent justice from prevailing.

Janet

++++

FBI aids Aruba investigation into missing Frederick woman
By The Associated Press
8:45 p.m. EDT, August 11, 2011


ORANJESTAD, Aruba— Aruba has turned to the FBI for help investigating the disappearance of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Md., an agency spokesman said Thursday.

FBI Special Agent Richard Wolf told The Associated Press that the U.S. agency is conducting interviews and giving other assistance to Aruba, which is taking the lead in the investigation.

<snipped>

http://www.herald-mail.com/news/local/hm-fbi-aids-aruba-investigation-into-missing-frederick-woman-20110811,0,1412190.story


Never Passed the Ball

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 184: Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute


No Invitation Extended

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words


Kyle Kingman:  The Arubans told us there wasn't anything of interest in the trap based on the visual-only inspection (Dateline and Tim Miller present).
 
Kyle Kingman:  John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word

Kyle Kingman:  Aruban divers deemed the cage to be not case related, and therefore Aruba had no interest in it.  At that point, I made the statement to all on board that we do have an interest and that we would recover the cage ourselves.  That is when Mos said they would dive on it but it would take 1 -2 weeks for a forensics team to arrive and that he would let Persistence know.

Kyle Kingman:  The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.

Kermit/jen3560 - Scared Monkeys

s.t.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 09:00:55 PM
Robyn Gardner search in Aruba shows no hope: 'If she were alive she would have made herself known'

BY MIKE JACCARINO   
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Saturday, August 13th 2011, 4:00 AM

 ::snipping2::

The pair arrived in Aruba July 31 and shared a room at a Marriott hotel. Investigators have video of them eating at a restaurant, not far from where he says she disappeared while snorkeling.

But no witnesses saw them go into the water and police have no knowledge of what else they did on the island, Stein said.

Under Aruban law, the judge can extend the next detention order for a maximum of eight days at a hearing scheduled for Monday.

After that, prosecutors could ask a judge to order Giordano held for as long as 60 days while they prepare a case, but that would require more substantial evidence. Charges would be filed at the end of the 60 days if prosecutors take the case to court.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/08/13/2011-08-13_robyn_gardner_search_in_aruba_shows_no_hope_if_she_were_alive_she_would_have_mad.html#ixzz1UxbPvA3L


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2011, 09:08:32 PM
TM  - are Arubatoday and Bondia officially shut down or is there a new url for them? 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 09:23:13 PM
TM  - are Arubatoday and Bondia officially shut down or is there a new url for them? 

I don't think they're putting anything online, but they're still in business as far as I know. 

Probably just too lazy to keep up the online edition, they had been going downhill for a while. 

JMO





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 09:25:04 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/TiffanyAnn3tt3/statuses/102535910297583616 (http://twitter.com/#!/TiffanyAnn3tt3/statuses/102535910297583616)

@TiffanyAnn3tt3
Tiffany

Suspect for missing Aruba woman says she disappeared while snorkeling. No woman who gets hair extensions every 8 wks is going in water!

51 minutes ago via Twitter for Android


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 09:26:12 PM
Thought I'd better not post this one.   ::MonkeyWink::

http://twitter.com/#!/aarondillio/statuses/102535897312018432 (http://twitter.com/#!/aarondillio/statuses/102535897312018432)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2011, 09:40:49 PM
Thought I'd better not post this one.   ::MonkeyWink::

http://twitter.com/#!/aarondillio/statuses/102535897312018432 (http://twitter.com/#!/aarondillio/statuses/102535897312018432)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/6040305402_1b87f1916f_o.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2011, 09:42:02 PM
I wonder if Gary took Robyn to Aruba because he thought it would be easier to dispose of a body?  No body no case, etc etc.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 09:47:54 PM
http://www.insideedition.com/videos.aspx?videoID=1059

Roommate of Missing Woman in Aruba Speaks Out

Thursday, 08/11/11

INSIDE EDITION talks to the roommate of Robyn Gardner, the woman who disappeared in Aruba, as she describes her feelings about Gardner's traveling companion.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 10:02:47 PM
I wonder if Gary took Robyn to Aruba because he thought it would be easier to dispose of a body?  No body no case, etc etc.

I've wondered that too.  But unless you knew the island, or someone else who did...would it really be that much easier?  We all know how many bodies we've seen wash up on the beaches there...would he risk that by disposing of her in the sea?  She hasn't washed up, so did he just get lucky?  Unless he's been there before or knew someone that would help him, would he know about the caves, mines, or other possible places to dispose of her where she would go undetected?  Then again, I think about the guy they found in that cactus like forest a year or so ago...he'd been there a while and no one found him. 

I'd like to hear from a woman that has traveled with Gary before, we've only heard so far from ones that he wanted to take somewhere but didn't go.  I'd like to know what went on during those trips.  Was he taking beautiful women other places to be video taped in the hotel rooms?  Remember one said he wanted to take her daughter for a photo shoot in Aruba...  Wonder what kind of photo shoot that would have been?  I just can't help but think there was something else behind these trips, for him to be so angry when the women chose not to go with him.  Whatever was behind the other trips, more than likely is connected to Robyn's disappearance.  JMO

Hope that makes sense! 





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 10:10:35 PM
Unless it's in the sand, I don't think it would be easy...and probably would be obvious if you buried someone in the ground?  Isn't the island basically rock?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 10:14:49 PM
Thought I'd better not post this one.   ::MonkeyWink::

http://twitter.com/#!/aarondillio/statuses/102535897312018432 (http://twitter.com/#!/aarondillio/statuses/102535897312018432)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/6040305402_1b87f1916f_o.jpg)

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 10:29:04 PM
I really hope they find her, but I'm so afraid they won't.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Maybe I've read too much, seen too much, etc.  But I just have a feeling he handed her off to someone, and her life will never be the same.  There are worse things than death, imo.  I've been wondering how much money he had on him, if his accounts in the states (or anywhere else he may have them) are being checked for activity around this trip.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 13, 2011, 11:35:41 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/80689-nieuwe-zoekactie-amerikaanse-toerist

Google translation:

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/13-08-2011/762269.jpg)

New Search American tourist

SATURDAY, 13 AUGUST 2011 2:14 p.m.

SAN NICOLAS - Police and fire yesterday abandoned mine holes Colony searched to find the body of Robyn Gardner (35) or clues surrounding her disappearance. According to the Public Prosecutor (OM) was found nothing of interest. The search is expected today and possibly tomorrow through.

by our reporter
Alex Lacle

Journalists on the spot yesterday afternoon saw the fire in the mine with a pink shirt and slippers. It is unclear whether this clothing has anything to do with research. Attorney General Taco Stein says that he has heard nothing about these clothes. "If it's important, then I have been told, I think." The mines are located on the north, less than one kilometer away from Baby Beach. Behind the nearby former Nanki Country Club, Gardner, at least according to her traveling partner, Gary Giordano, on August 2 disappeared while snorkeling.
 ::snipping2::

The search in the mine shafts is a logical continuation of the futile quest for sea and land in the first days after the disappearance. Stein hints that these days in several places here will be searched.

Meanwhile, the U.S. media that published the home of Gary Giordano (50) in Gaithersburg, Maryland was searched by the FBI. According to Advocate General Stein this story is not true. He has learned that the house of the accused "did the black press cars, but there was no police. Incidentally, he does not rule out that this search will take place in the future. But the legal request of the Aruban justice for search has not been sent, says Stein. "We did have some requests done, but I'm working this weekend to further requests."


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 14, 2011, 12:50:52 AM
With video--some good advice.

http://wusa9.com/news/article/162651/373/Aruba-Case-Sheds-Light-On-Online-Dating-World-

Gary Giordano Being Questioned Allegedly Met Women On Match.com
2:54 PM, Aug 13, 2011 
Written by
Andrea McCarren

WASHINGTON (WUSA) -- As Gaithersburg, Maryland resident Gary Giordano is being scrutinized by law enforcement in Aruba, other women have stepped forward to allege he has been violent with them and even, that he secretly videotaped their sexual encounters. Several say they met Giordano on the popular dating website, Match.com.

Match.com issued a statement to 9News, saying allegations like this between individuals who meet on Match.com "are extremely rare, but it doesn't make them any less horrifying." The online dating site also asks its members to report any suspicious or inappropriate behavior.

According to dating and relationship coach Michelle Jacoby, founder of www.DCMatchmaking.com, " In 2011, if you're not dating online, you're kind of a dating dinosaur."

 ::snipping2::

You can also check websites like www.BeenVerified.com to find out in advance if a potential date has a violent history or a criminal record.

Said Jacoby, "For a small fee of under $100, you can do unlimited searches for a year. And you don't need the consent of the person. You can really search anyone. You can find out a lot of information about that person."

Also recommended: setting up a free Google Voice account, providing a phone number that can be used just for dating.

"You can give that number out when you're dating, so that nobody knows your real cell phone number. If that person starts to be bothersome, you can just block their calls," said Jacoby.

She also recommends setting up an email account that isn't your name and doesn't include any personal information.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 01:39:19 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/80639-vermiste-toerist-waarschijnlijk-dood

Google translation:

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/12-08-2011/761350.jpg)

Missing tourist likely dead         

FRIDAY, AUGUST 12, 2011 2:16 P.M.

ORANGE CITY - The Public Prosecutor (OM) assumes that the American tourist Robyn Gardner no longer alive. "I know we have no body and that one could say they could still be alive," as late as Advocate General Taco Stein to American media know. "But if that were the case, she would already have reported."

Prosecutor wants more than that the accused remain good and will most likely ask the judge.
Gardner disappeared last week Tuesday, Aug. 2. According to her companion and she became suspicious Gary Giordano missing at sea when she was behind him snorkeling Nanki Country Club near Baby Beach. A search turned up nothing. Justice is confident the story of Giordano and not stopped him last week on Friday when he wanted to leave the island. Because the suspect is now invokes his right to remain silent and not cooperate with the investigation, it asks for help from the public. hotline The OM has a hotline (11141) available to testify that the accused during his stay in Aruba have seen and who can provide information about him, his contacts and places visited by him and Gardner. The public can also contact the police, so let the Public know. For tips from the United States has a separate phone: 011-297-5820695. "On this one message can be recorded." As was announced yesterday in this newspaper, the Public has a photo of the suspect published. A remarkable step, Stein said yesterday against the newspaper. "But these are exceptional circumstances whatsoever." Michael Lopez, Giordano's lawyer, said yesterday that, according to agreement with his client, press releases no longer be given. When asked to comment on the publication of the photograph of his client by the Public came no answer. According to sources, the OM of the car the suspect seized for further investigation. Reportedly, this car on July 30 are leased for a period of six days. The prosecution confirmed that a car was seized, but would provide no further details. Advocate General Stein wants to say that there are also various media, including a computer were seized.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 02:05:55 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/80635-business-as-usual

Google translation:

'Business as usual         

FRIDAY, AUGUST 12, 2011 1:26 P.M.

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/12-08-2011/761316.jpg)

ORANGE CITY his companion Robyn Gardner (35) last week when snorkeling disappeared. Yet the tourists do not seem to be deterred by the loss. Among the many parked cars are V-cars to see and on the beach include the hotel towels on . Also Jonathan, son of the owner of Big Mamma Grill on the beach, confirms that it is business as usual.

by our reporter
Alex Lacle

a single tourist asks what happened, says Jonathan. Many , however, he can not say. "I did not even notice," he told this newspaper. "Only when I began the evening with my mom went home, and I saw all the police cars." The search for Gardner was in full swing. "I heard the next day that a tourist had drowned, at least that was said." An intense search by coastguards, Warda Nos Costa, police helicopter, fire department and volunteers provided no body on . The active search was called off Saturday, Aug. 6, after her disappearance four days. Meanwhile, her companion tried Giordano on Friday before all of the island to leave. at Reina Beatrix airport, however, he was arrested by Aruban authorities. Jonathan finds it very strange that the body was not found. As prosecutor he also strongly doubt the story of the accused . He says he already has experienced a tourist in the sea at Baby Beach into difficulty or even drowned. The sea may be outside the sheltered lagoon which is very rough and there is often a strong current. "But the body always comes up again and rinse it." A few days after the disappearance, the police came along to Big Mama Grill. Visitors to this fact, besides eating and drinking, including beach chairs and snorkel gear will. Jonathan says that the police asked Giordano and Gardner had rented snorkel gear. "We ask everyone who comes to hiring identification," he says. "They have not hired us. To be sure, we counted all snorkels if we had. "That was the case. No comment on the coast for the past Nanki Country Club, the place where the victim in the story of Giordano disappeared, a tourist couple and their teenage son to see. Equipped with camera, they take a look. In questions of this reporter they want to not comment. "I'd rather not comment", the answer of the father. Also in JADS dive in the former building of Nanki, is owner Jean-Pierre "JP" Fang no answer to questions related to the disappearance of Gardner. "It's an ongoing investigation. I can not give information, "says Fang. He referred to the Public Prosecutor (OM) for questions. However he confirms that not only his dive shop scuba gear, but also rented snorkels. Or Giordano and Gardner on Tuesday, August 2 at their stuff have hired, he will not lose. "I can tell you everything about diving, but information you will not." He says that there are already many people with him on the floor was, but everybody gets the same answer. Inquiries to the OM shows that this body has made ​​no request or agreement made ​​with the dive center to the press not to talk. "Probably find they are easy to get to the Prosecution to refer, "said Advocate General Taco Stein. "They may have had enough of all questions." JADS was on the day of the disappearance involved in the search for Gardner. Reportedly, divers from the school the day after the disappearance went to the body of the victim wanted.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 02:12:26 AM
http://amigoe.com/aruba/80599-om-officieel-rechtshulpverzoek-aan-vs

Google translation:

OM: Official request for assistance to U.S. '

12 August 2011

The Public Prosecutor (OM) on Aruba has made ​​a formal request for legal assistance to the United States in the disappearance case Robyn Gardner (35). This information on to questions such as phone records of the victim or the suspect Gary Giordano (50). This has the OM of this newspaper disclosed.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 02:18:26 AM
"JADS dive in the former building of Nanki"

So does that mean that there is no Nanki Club any longer?  Or did the Nanki Club move to another location?

If it doesn't exist anymore, why did they not just say that the supposed snorkeling took place behind JADS Dive?

Fear that there might not be "business as usual"?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 04:22:13 AM
http://www.wusa9.com/video/1108415655001/1/FBI-News-Conference-Outside-Gary-Giordanos-House

FBI News Conference Outside Gary Giordano's House

An FBI official spoke briefly to the media outside Gary Giordano's house in Gaithersburg, Md. Friday night. Giordano is a suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 04:39:57 AM
"JADS dive in the former building of Nanki"

So does that mean that there is no Nanki Club any longer?  Or did the Nanki Club move to another location?

If it doesn't exist anymore, why did they not just say that the supposed snorkeling took place behind JADS Dive?

Fear that there might not be "business as usual"?

From all I've read, JADS and Rum Reef must occupy where the Nanki Club was.

http://www.sportdiver.com/jads-dive-center-beach-store

Aruba / Jads Dive Center & Beach Store
Overview

Location: JADS is located close to the South-Eastern most point of Aruba. Our store is right next to Baby Beach which is one of Aruba’s best snorkeling spots. If you are staying at one of the high-rise or low-rise resorts, you can reach our store by taking the highway towards San Nicolas. Once you reach San Nicolas, you can drive through town, till you reach the Valero gas station, located at the other side of San Nicolas. Follow the road that goes along the wall of the refinery. At the end of this road you will reach a Red Anchor that has been put up in commemoration of the owner of the famous Charlie’s Bar. At the anchor turn right, and keep following that road till you pass a small church. The road will go left or right; turn left, and you will see the old Esso Club, wherein we are situated.

 ::snipping2::

Nanki Club
Seroe Colorado
+1 2975846070
dive@jadsaruba.com
www.jadsaruba.com

In this older article I noticed this

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/32322-a-salba-bida-di-un-landado-na-baby-beach.html

A salba bida di un landado na Baby Beach      
Thursday, 02 June 2011 21:49
 
one man owing to achieve problem in lama behind rum reef (ex nanki country club or esso club) y one good samaritano, mr. sjoerd owing to bay in accion y owing to enter water come cu the victima ground.
 ::snipping2::

(snipped...question answered)

http://bentpage.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/rum-reef-aruba/

(http://bentpage.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/rum_reef1.jpg?w=470&h=312)

Rum Reef Aruba

Rum Reef Aruba is located where the old Esso club used to be between Baby and Rodgers Beaches, at the southern tip of the island.

 ::snipping2::

(http://bentpage.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/rum_reef2.jpg?w=470&h=312)

JADS dive shop is adjacent to the place, too. Here you can launch diving adventure, get snorkle equipment, and check in with the professionals who know what they’re doing.
 ::snipping2::


(snipped other reference)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 04:56:51 AM
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/galleries/photo-gallery-maryland-woman-robyn-gardner-missing-in-aruba-081011

I hadn't seen some of these photos of Robyn.

There are also a few from the FBI search of Giordano's home.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 14, 2011, 09:41:16 AM
"JADS dive in the former building of Nanki"

So does that mean that there is no Nanki Club any longer?  Or did the Nanki Club move to another location?

If it doesn't exist anymore, why did they not just say that the supposed snorkeling took place behind JADS Dive?

Fear that there might not be "business as usual"
?

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

I believe first mentioned by the Aruban Herald.  Same as "a" Marriott hotel.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 14, 2011, 09:45:51 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/80689-nieuwe-zoekactie-amerikaanse-toerist



SATURDAY, 13 AUGUST 2011 2:14 p.m.


Meanwhile, the U.S. media that published the home of Gary Giordano (50) in Gaithersburg, Maryland was searched by the FBI. [b]According to Advocate General Stein this story is not true.[/b] He has learned that the house of the accused "did the black press cars, but there was no police. Incidentally, he does not rule out that this search will take place in the future. But the legal request of the Aruban justice for search has not been sent, says Stein. "We did have some requests done, but I'm working this weekend to further requests."


Perhaps someone could send Stein and Amigoe the photos of the FBI....much less the brief press release.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 14, 2011, 10:12:42 AM
I remember during Natalee's case, the establishments were never named by the Arubans.  Carlos and Charlie's became "a nightclub"...etc...  Must be an ATA directive.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 12:22:00 PM
I remember during Natalee's case, the establishments were never named by the Arubans.  Carlos and Charlie's became "a nightclub"...etc...  Must be an ATA directive.

 ::rhino::

I was thinking so too, confirmed when I read the "business as usual" article.

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: carpe noctem on August 14, 2011, 12:33:08 PM
(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug02.perdi.P8020148.JPG)

Hey, you know what would go good with a body like that?


A shirt.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2011, 12:33:20 PM
I thought that Nanki was closed a while back.  Wasn't Nanki also the location that the psychic said Natalee was buried?

Searching around for Nanki stuff I found this post  ::MonkeyDevil::  (Charlierat has a post or two in this thread as well - what a tool he is  ::MonkeyCool:: )

http://bb.visitaruba.com/f2/seroe-colarado-plans-13492/
 (http://bb.visitaruba.com/f2/seroe-colarado-plans-13492/)

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Old Friday, February 12th, 2010, 12:27 PM

Don't know if this is interesting or not... it was to us. After the surprise of Coco being torn down we wen't over to the dive shop to the new little bar for a Balashi. While there 3 gentlemen walked to the bar speaking with a local and sat beside us. After the local guy left we got into a conversation like; is it your 1st trip to Aruba, like the weather and so on. They were 3 brothers that grew up in the 50's and 60' in the Exxon/Lago Oil Refinery community. Their Dad was an executive at the refinery. We were there talking for quite a while and the stories they told about the 'hey day' of the community were really something. I said to one of the brothers, "what a time that must have been." His reply was telling, he said, "It was better than that!" He said they did suffer some consequences of the Aruba life, some with skin cancer and liver problems. The drinking among [all of the] teens, American, Dutch etc. was bordering out of control and the parties., big and small were something they will never forget.

They were there organizing a reunion of the friends from that time. they have had a couple of reunions in past years and more than 400 attended. I would love to listen to the stories at that party!

Bill & Donna


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 12:34:08 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/80689-nieuwe-zoekactie-amerikaanse-toerist



SATURDAY, 13 AUGUST 2011 2:14 p.m.


Meanwhile, the U.S. media that published the home of Gary Giordano (50) in Gaithersburg, Maryland was searched by the FBI. [b]According to Advocate General Stein this story is not true.[/b] He has learned that the house of the accused "did the black press cars, but there was no police. Incidentally, he does not rule out that this search will take place in the future. But the legal request of the Aruban justice for search has not been sent, says Stein. "We did have some requests done, but I'm working this weekend to further requests."

Perhaps someone could send Stein and Amigoe the photos of the FBI....much less the brief press release.

Well you know the search did take place after Friday night after happy hour.   ::MonkeyWink::

They'll figure it out Monday morning when the social page watchers see the pictures.      ::MonkeyRoll:: 



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: carpe noctem on August 14, 2011, 12:44:19 PM
For anyone who missed Gary in his deer antlers...


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/giordano.jpg)


It fooled me... if he'd been out in the woods... I would have never guessed it wasn't a real deer. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 12:47:43 PM
(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug02.perdi.P8020148.JPG)

Hey, you know what would go good with a body like that?


A shirt.

 ::rhino::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Ain't that the truth.

He was trying to "look" the part.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 14, 2011, 12:54:40 PM
I thought that Nanki was closed a while back.  Wasn't Nanki also the location that the psychic said Natalee was buried?




According to MF at FOB the article states:  ( http://www.freedomofblog.com/forum29/3949.html )

Natalee's body is behind the Nanky Country Club.

Sorry, for the news.... but I had to reread it so I don't get false rumors started.

According to a Psychic that visits the island constantly, the body of Natalee is buried in the sand behind the Nanky Country Club.

A place located at the eastern tip of the island in San Nicolaas.

How it got there and who did that, the psychic did not say, but hopes that authorities would take a look at that info.

Glenda:   NOT A JOKE, but the Psychic told officials that Natalee was with Lorenzo, Pitbull and Scooby when she fell on the rocks and bonked her head. They boys buried her there.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=785.660


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 12:57:40 PM
Thanks Klaas and Buckeye.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 05:40:59 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diaranson_3_augustus_2011

8/3/2011 Solo di Pueblo Front Page

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Papiamentu translation:

tourist female perdi on lamar at ex- nanki

sta. cruz - tuesday in oranan of nightfall one pareha tourist together cu they child owing to dicidi of bay bana in lamar behind ex nanki club pabao of baby beach y he is lose view of his senora in lamar. polisnan of san nicholas, personal of bombero y rescue owing to present at the sitio for brinda aid. he owing to count ; police cu the owing to leave for of water one rato y his senora self owing to stay in inside y for one rub of eye the senora owing to bay. he owing to leave busca aid rond y owing to come across some person local y owing to beat alarma at police.

is deal here of one lady naci at 1976. the also owing to go duik cu fleppers but without snorkel y not owing to return ground more. owing to start one buskeda of part kustwacht, helicopter of police, y search and rescue. till cu algo happen of 9 or of night still had personalnan of helicopter, boat of police y one are of jets for dive in water was buscando the person perdi.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 05:51:10 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diaranson_3_augustus_2011

8/3/2011 Solo di Pueblo Page 3

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Papiamentu translation:

truck of brandweer cal for leave of emergencia does not start

sta. cruz - this is instant cu tuesday nightfall hour brandweer is achieve one melding of caso of person perdi behind ex nanki where cla for bay start the truck at post san nicolas does not start. behold cu the ambulance of rescue have to owing to leave without nummerplaat (license plate?) lever caya y the another are of brandweer owing to achieve lift cu patrol of san nicolas. esta one berguenza (embarrassment) nacional.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 05:58:09 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diaranson_3_augustus_2011

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till even luz for help cu claridad for buskeda in lama owing to let bay

sta. cruz - truck of brandweer in oranan of nightfall was for of servicio, but owing to work duro on dje for her start night hour the unidad special of brandweer owing to present cu luznan big for luza on lama for her buskeda continua, owing to constata one damage. the luz owing to light for 15 minuut y after owing to pay y does not owing to light bek. owing to struggle enough cune, but cu none result.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 06:54:06 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diaranson_3_augustus_2011

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Papiamentu translation:

berguenza (embarrassment) for miembronan of bombero of post sierra:
police have to give bombero lift for they can yeta at sitio of tragedy
people of san nicolas y east of bridge coriendo risico, if sosode one calamidad


sta. cruz - much owing to stay babuca of see one suv of police arrive at baby beach y descend some bombero for so they can owing to ciminsa perpara for can haci they trabaonan of rescate. is so cu one pereha procedente of baltimore estados unidos owing to achieve they confronta in one tragedy at baby beach. corectamente owing to beat alarma for so cuminsa cu all trabaonan necesario. at dado memento owing to notifica bomberonan, but here is where the "biga 2 for 4 is cai" then formalmente. bombero at was have one or another froma of transporte already cu several of they vehiculo of emergencia is in aml estado. the unique unidad cu can owing to leave, but cu only two person, is the materialen wagen. the another miembronan have to owing to keep police come busca they for so they can owing to yeta at the sitio. here everybody can was witness or cu the miembronan of bomber was descend for of the car of police, enough vergonza can cierto, for motibo cu they not have vehiculo in good estado for they can desplega they trabao. at once we pensamentonan owing to bay on thing berdad the chairman of sinba was try at ilustra in the ultimo lunanan. the situation for thing is material, behiculo y logistica of brandweer aruba, berdad is one disaster overall. cada trip cu trece this in publicidad is follow one "anda nada" of reacionan of part of the minister cu does not acepta cu his maneho is devastador for her departamento here. we owing to think of trip tamber of kico will stop of centro of san nicolas if algo big have to sosode. we owing to try of enter in contacto cu the comandante of brandweer on the asunto here but as always hour cu the potato is cayente (hot) never they not t'ey for prensa. we is lamenta cu san nicolas is stay deal of the form here for minister dowers cu do not neither shiver kico genuinely is pasando in post sierra y another departamentionan cu is concerni brandweer. cada trip cu the chairman of sindicato sinba present his ponencianan, the minister is sapatia pace the does not for nium person punta finger on his maneho devastador. is one coincidencia cu is the same post sierra here was dennoticia already cu was impossible the miembronan of the cuerpo of bombero can owing to accomplish cu they trabaonan inner debi at fayonan in airco. at instant cu owing to as one walk out y accion morocoy, at once owing to core send one compania cu can cierto not can owing to fix the situation. loka owing to cause more disgust still is the mature cu once more aruba is bay in paginanan dark already cu two tourist is achieve they envolvi in one situation y is come resulta cu aruba not have one cuerpo of bombero cu can rindi the servicionan in caso of emergencia so already cu not have material or vehiculo in good condicion. dowers y esnan responsible owing to cause one dano inmenso at the good name of aruba already cu neither for one caso of hogamento not have form corda if have to present one caso more worse where cu turistanan will is envolvi. we owing to achieve reaccion of several miembronan y ex miembronan of curerpo of bombero y cada one in hand pleno freedom of expresion owing to tell cu this is part of the berguenza cu they have to happen inside pace still directie does not admiti y help the sindicato place the presionnan necesario for so place the minister stop straight. alcontraio, leiding of cuerpo of bombero they fuse is very abao in amperahe y mesor is fly hour cu they hear cu expresionan is stay haci cu do not cumbini they in they relacion amigabel cu minister dowers. pret of all the asunto here is cu some week happen one acolyte of leiding of cuerpo of bombera owing to "bisti" one sub enough caro on one rotonde, rancando blackboard y azaailicht. in less of 15 minuut the sir here is achieve one another vehiculo new new at his disposicion y in less of 30 minuut is go back hay'e in one situation caminda cu tires they of the car here also is stay destrui. owing to conclui at once cu for leiding have all type of vehiculonan caro y confortabel for keiro in they oranan pound, but for her bomberonan cu have to leave for asisti people y all esnan cu is visit we island, they if have to stay keep when they can hanja lift cu police for so bay brinda at servicio. aruba in hand of dowers assure is one dessaster overall y this is one proof cla y raspa.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 07:12:08 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diahuebs_4_augustus_2011

8/4/2011 Solo di Pueblo Page 3

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Papiamentu translation:

john c. larmonie, vocero of police suplente:
turist perdi at baby beach
after of enough buskeda still not owing to encontra the person perdi


sta. cruz -- tuesday for more or less 18:21 hour, ac is meld at central of police cu they owing to achieve one call cu will have a perdi, probably one tourist, female, at height of baby beach. patrol of san nicolas owing to acudi at once at the sitio y owing to come encontra cu he g.v.g. of estados unidos of america, 50 year, kedando because; huesped at marriot hotel. el\'a tell police cu el\'a bay snorkel cu the lady robyn lynn garbner, naci at estados unidos of america 23 april 1976. according his declaracion they owing to leave abroad of rif at the lugar menciona y after of one rato they owing to lose another. hour cu he owing to arrive ground, el\' owing to keep one rato y hour el\'a ripara cu the lady menciona not owing to arrive ground bek, owing to dicidi of beat alarma. at once one buskeda owing to cuminsa, tanto on ground because; on lama y owing to envolvi kustwacht, police maritimo, helicopter. slachtofferhulp also owing to present at the sitio for asisti the tourist g.v.c. for more or less 10\'or y mey owing to dicidi of stop cu the buskeda for organiza y follow the morning after. according informacion, condicionnan maritimo was good till cu tuesday night y owing to facilitao the buskeda considerablemente, compara cu the condicionnan normal in the area. for more or less 7\'or diarazon morning the dienstnan menciona together cu sarfa owing to cuminsa of new cu the buskeda for her person perdi. recherche also owing to being envolvi for investiga the detayenan of the caso. till at the momentonan here not have evidencia of one crimen but more bien is tratando the caso because; one person perdi on lama, while cu is investiga all detaye if. at ciere of we edicion not owing to enter more informacion. come across


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 07:22:58 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diasabra_6_augustus_2011aa

8/6/2011 Solo di Pueblo Front Page

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 07:26:03 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diasabra_6_augustus_2011aa

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diaranson_10_augustus_2011

8/10/2011 Solo di Pueblo Front Page

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 07:40:50 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diabierna_12_augustus_2011

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 07:46:06 PM
http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diabierna_12_augustus_2011

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 14, 2011, 07:48:53 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/maryland-man-to-face-charges-in-aruba-over-companions-disappearance/2011/08/14/gIQAjXakFJ_story.html

Gary Giordano to face charges in Aruba over Maryland woman’s disappearance
By Dan Morse, Sunday, August 14, 5:59 PM

Aruban authorities said Sunday that they intend to pursue criminal charges against Gary Giordano, the Gaithersburg man whose female companion disappeared on the island this month.

Aruban Solicitor General Taco Stein called Giordano a “suspect in a suspicious death.” Giordano told officials that Robyn Gardner, 35, failed to return to the beach after the pair went snorkeling Aug. 2., but officials have questioned his account. Her body has not been found.

 ::snipping2::

Stein said prosecutors intend to criminally charge Giordano in connection with Gardner’s apparent death, but he did specify the charge.

 ::snipping2::

Stein said investigators had spoken to a witness who saw Giordano and Gardner at a restaurant at 4 p.m. on Aug. 2. Giordano reported Gardner missing at 6:23 p.m., Stein said.

 ::snipping2::

Detectives searched his home and found the shredder, one of the DVD players and six Game Boy systems they say he stole from a Target in Frederick.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 08:07:27 PM
I thought Giordano prohibited his lawyer from making any further statements, maybe I've got it confused?   ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/maryland-man-to-face-charges-in-aruba-over-companions-disappearance/2011/08/14/gIQAjXakFJ_story.html

Quote
Giordano’s lawyer in Aruba, Michael Lopez, released a statement Sunday condemning the probe, saying that Giordano should be freed and allowed to return to the United States.

“We can state that no felony has been committed by him,” Lopez said. “Consideration must also be taken in the realm of human rights, which we feel are being abused in the area of his detention.”

Maybe Giordano is in the same facility with Alex Mathew?   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 14, 2011, 08:13:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/foxyladyaruba?sk=wall

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: carpe noctem on August 14, 2011, 08:35:50 PM
Giordano already has a rap sheet with 4 thefts on it... so, now he is knicking X-Boxes from Target (6 systems total) all while living in his upscale home?

1. people are sometimes never as they appear
2. he's a loser
3. the deer outfit pic  is like the dumbest thing - i still can't get over it. you'd have to be brain damaged to send that to a woman.

He appears to me to be 50 trying to turn back the clock to 20 yrs old. I bet the FBI will find pallets of viagra in his closet.


 ::geraldodance::
>another satisfied customer



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 14, 2011, 10:30:40 PM
http://thedailyrecord.com/2011/08/14/lawyer-challenges-aruba-officials-in-tourist-case/

Lawyer challenges Aruba officials in tourist case
Posted: 9:41 pm Sun, August 14, 2011
By Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — A U.S. tourist detained in Aruba in the death of his travel companion has cooperated with investigators and should be immediately released because there is no evidence against him, his defense lawyer said Sunday.

 ::snipping2::

“To date, our client has given all possible cooperation to the investigation,” he said. “Where our client has been asked the same question more than once he referred to previous statements.”

::snipping2::

Lopez criticized the prosecutor’s office for releasing a photo of Giordano as they seek witnesses who may have seen the couple together on the island.

“We note that doing this without any kind of proof that the client has committed a crime will damage his good name and jeopardize his company in the States,” the lawyer said. “This can lead to substantial damages.”

Aruba has asked for help in its investigation from the FBI under a law enforcement cooperation treaty between the U.S. and the island. The FBI searched Giordano’s home in Maryland but has declined to discuss the case.

Given the presence of the treaty, and Giordano’s cooperation, his lawyer said he should be allowed to return home and could be extradited back to Aruba if he is later found to have committed any crime.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 14, 2011, 10:34:28 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/maryland-man-to-face-charges-in-aruba-over-companions-disappearance/2011/08/14/gIQAjXakFJ_story.html

Gary Giordano to face charges in Aruba over Maryland woman’s disappearance

Aruban authorities said Sunday that they intend to pursue criminal charges against Gary Giordano, the Gaithersburg man whose female companion disappeared on the island this month.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Red on August 15, 2011, 12:33:26 AM
Aruba Authorities Intend to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Gary Giordano in Suspicious Death of Robyn Gardner … What Happened to “No Body, No Crime” With Joran Van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/14/aruba-authorities-intend-to-pursue-criminal-charges-against-gary-giordano-in-suspicious-death-of-robyn-gardner-what-happened-to-no-body-no-crime-with-joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/

According to Aruba authorities, they intend to pursue criminal charges against Gary Giordano, the 50 year old Gaithersburg man whose female companion, Robyn Gardiner, disappeared on “One Happy Another Murder Island” earlier this month. Really, suspicious death? What crime? Isn’t it interesting that when Natalee Holloway went missing and was presumed murdered by Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe, the three people last seen with Natalee leaving Carlos N’ Charlies … they were never charged with a crime or ever prosecuted because Aruba claimed … “NO BODY, NO CRIME”.

 ::snipping2::

So what is different in Aruba this time when they are faced with a murder of an American tourist? We all remember the run around that the Aruba authorities gave Beth and Dave Holloway when Natalee was reported missing. When Natalee was reported missing, the powers that be told Natalee’s family that she probably ran off with some one and that she would return. Then two black security guards were arrested and falsely accused by the very people who were last seen with Natalee of involvement in her disappearance. Isn’t it interesting that Aruba authorities and Taco Stein were quick to accuse American Gary Giordano of inconsistencies and automatically presumed that Robyn Gardiner was no longer alive. Inconsistencies? Who told more lies to police than Joran Vander Sloot?

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 02:37:45 AM
"So do not be afraid of them.
There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed,
or hidden that will not be made known."

Matthew 10:26


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Where is Robyn? 



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 15, 2011, 08:40:57 AM
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/lawyer-for-gary-giordano-calls-for-release-robyn-gardner-investigation-continues-in-aruba-081511
Lawyer for Gary Giordano Calls for Release; Robyn Gardner Investigation Continues in Aruba
Updated: Monday, 15 Aug 2011, 8:23 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 15 Aug 2011, 8:23 AM EDT

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - A lawyer is calling for the release of a U.S. tourist detained in Aruba in connection with the disappearance of his travel companion.

Attorney Michael Lopez says there's no evidence on which to hold Gary Giordano in the presumed death of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Md. Lopez says Giordano has provided all the information he can.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/lawyer-for-gary-giordano-calls-for-release-robyn-gardner-investigation-continues-in-aruba-081511#ixzz1V6Iid4wc




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 15, 2011, 08:42:17 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20518251,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
Robyn Gardner Suspect's Lawyer: Aruba Has No 'Hard Proof' Against Client
By Siobhan Morrissey and Tim Nudd
Monday August 15, 2011 08:10 AM EDT

An attorney for Gary V. Giordano pleaded for his client's release on Sunday, nearly two weeks after his travel companion, Robyn Gardner, went missing in Aruba.

Giordano, 50, claims Gardner, 35, never returned from a snorkeling trip they took together on Aug. 2. But authorities on the Caribbean island doubt his story and are treating Gardner's disappearance as a mysterious death.

They must decide Monday whether to detain Giordano for at least eight more days. But his lawyer, Michael Lopez, says that's not necessary.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 15, 2011, 09:39:48 AM
Lawyer challenges Aruba officials in tourist case
The Associated Press
Date: Monday Aug. 15, 2011 9:21 AM ET


ORANJESTAD, Aruba — A U.S. tourist detained in Aruba in the death of his travel companion has cooperated with investigators and should be immediately released because there is no evidence against him, his defence lawyer said Sunday.

Michael Lopez, the Aruban lawyer for Gary Giordano, denied statements by prosecutors that his client is no longer answering questions about what happened to Robyn Gardner, his companion on a short trip to the Dutch Caribbean island.

"We cannot deduce that there is hard proof to sustain a demand by the public prosecutor against our client," Lopez said.

Giordano, a 50-year-old business owner from Gaithersburg, Maryland, has granted four interviews to investigators and accompanied them twice on visits to the area where he said Gardner disappeared while they went snorkeling, Lopez said in a written statement.

"To date, our client has given all possible cooperation to the investigation," he said. "Where our client has been asked the same question more than once he referred to previous statements."

Giordano is scheduled to appear before a judge Monday for a detention hearing. Aruban Solicitor General Taco Stein said Sunday that prosecutors intend to file a petition asking a judge to extend Giordano's detention for another eight days while authorities continue to investigate the case. Under the Aruban system, any charges would not be filed until later

<snipped>

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20110815/lawyer-aruba-tourist-gary-giordano-woman-robyn-gardner-110815/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 15, 2011, 11:11:16 AM
WHO CAN WE TRUST?

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 182:  Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.   And we are the last ones to find out.

Page 185:  The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.  Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a resturant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 15, 2011, 11:11:56 AM
NEVER PASSED THE BALL

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 184: Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 15, 2011, 11:12:46 AM
TRAGEDY CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE

The Goal of Education

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 189:    It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil.  It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are.  And evil is always two steps ahead. From the outset we never had a chance.  But we didn't know it.  I'm taking leave of the island, but not from the work yet to be done.

Page 208:  The goal of education is twofold: to bring a message about personal safety to high-school and college students and to educate travellers.

Page 209:  Bad things happen everywhere.  But the difference we need to consider when something bad happens outside the country is the help available for the victims and their families.  When we leave these borders, we leave behind all the privileges and rights we're all accustomed to and often take for granted.  We have expectations that there will be a safety net of law-abiding official, no matter where we travel, or that our US embassy will come to our rescue.  But that's terribly naive.


Making a Difference

Talking To Beth Holloway Five Years After Natalee's Disappearance
05/30/10 1:45 pm


She is now focused on her new life's work which was born out of the death of her daughter.

"Tragedy creates an opportunity to make a difference."

Beth tells the story of Natalee's disappearance to high school and college students round the nation as part of her work with the Natalee Holloway Resource Center,which launches in D.C. on June 8

"The Natalee Holloway Resource Center is focusing on education and crime prevention, and in the event that a loved one goes missing we have the resources and the contacts to assist the families."

http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/0510/741129.html

+++++

Website:
Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Facebook:
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

s.t.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 15, 2011, 11:14:08 AM
Aruba Authorities Intend to Pursue Criminal Charges Against Gary Giordano in Suspicious Death of Robyn Gardner … What Happened to “No Body, No Crime” With Joran Van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/14/aruba-authorities-intend-to-pursue-criminal-charges-against-gary-giordano-in-suspicious-death-of-robyn-gardner-what-happened-to-no-body-no-crime-with-joran-van-der-sloot-and-natalee-holloway/

According to Aruba authorities, they intend to pursue criminal charges against Gary Giordano, the 50 year old Gaithersburg man whose female companion, Robyn Gardiner, disappeared on “One Happy Another Murder Island” earlier this month. Really, suspicious death? What crime? Isn’t it interesting that when Natalee Holloway went missing and was presumed murdered by Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe, the three people last seen with Natalee leaving Carlos N’ Charlies … they were never charged with a crime or ever prosecuted because Aruba claimed … “NO BODY, NO CRIME”.

 ::snipping2::

So what is different in Aruba this time when they are faced with a murder of an American tourist? We all remember the run around that the Aruba authorities gave Beth and Dave Holloway when Natalee was reported missing. When Natalee was reported missing, the powers that be told Natalee’s family that she probably ran off with some one and that she would return. Then two black security guards were arrested and falsely accused by the very people who were last seen with Natalee of involvement in her disappearance. Isn’t it interesting that Aruba authorities and Taco Stein were quick to accuse American Gary Giordano of inconsistencies and automatically presumed that Robyn Gardiner was no longer alive. Inconsistencies? Who told more lies to police than Joran Vander Sloot?

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 01:13:40 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35456-fbi-a-conduci-un-busqueda-na-cas-di-sospechoso-den-caso-di-dama-desapareci.html

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug15.fbi.jpg)

fbi owing to conduci one busqueda at home of sospechoso in caso of lady desapareci

monday, 15 august 2011 12:50

diabierna night late agentanan of fbi owing to enter the cas of the sospechoso gary giordano. more or less 12 car of agentenan of fbi was at the sitio where cu can owing to see the agentenan tanto on the previous to floor because; the of two floor of the cas. one of the agentenan owing to declara cu they're at the cas for ehecuta one entrance hudicial on the cas of gary vincent giordano. the entrance is wordo make relaciona cu one investigacion hudicial for cual motibo they not can give more comentario.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 01:22:11 PM
When I see it, I'll believe it.  Not saying it didn't happen, just sounds convenient; so I hope they're not basing this on his word alone.  jmo

http://arubaherald.com/court/823-missing-woman-text-to-travel-companion-take-me-out-of-here-.html

Missing woman text to travel companion: “Take Me Out Of Here”       

Sunday, 14 August 2011 20:13
 
Gary Giordano received an sms with the words “Take Me Out Of Here” from Robyn Gardner. He went online, googled for a destination, chose Aruba and booked their trip. It was odd that Robyn wanted to continue traveling, because she had just returned from a trip with her friends. She told her boyfriend she was going to Florida and instead came to Aruba with another man.
 ::snipping2::
If all is well, Gary Giordano has to present in front of the Judge of Instruction on Monday. It is possible that Giordano will be released thereafter if there is not enough material evidence against him.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 01:31:35 PM
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/15/familiar-spotlight-on-aruba-after-disappearance-stirs-up-local-frustration/

Familiar spotlight on Aruba after disappearance stirs up local frustration


August 15th, 2011

09:28 AM ET

Comments (196 comments)


The disappearance of Robyn Gardner has brought the international media back to Aruba, and Arubans aren’t happy about it. After the prolonged investigation without resolution in the Natalee Holloway case the summer of 2005, tourism took a hit. The locals are nervous and not keen to see us again.

There is no way to keep a low profile on an island when you’re CNN. A photograph of us reporting in front of the prosecutor’s office was on the front page of the island’s most popular paper, The Diario, the day after we landed.

Since then, other networks have followed us to Aruba. NBC’s satellite dish now sprouts from the hotel grounds. An unnamed television team was having lunch near the site where Gardner reportedly vanished while snorkeling. Once the manager of the restaurant knew they were members of the media, he threw them out, refusing their money for the meal they had already been served. It’s a very strong reaction for a place whose maroon and white license plates boast “One Happy Island.”

That’s an extreme example. I have been here many times, and always, unfortunately, for bad news. I was here for much of the Holloway frenzy, but even now, I find most here are extremely polite and friendly. However, if you ask them if they know anything about the current case and would they be willing to be interviewed, people grow silent. Twice my requests were met with the same response. One person said “here is someone who could talk" to me while writing down a name and phone number. Only it was the number for the island’s solicitor general, and I already had it.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 02:19:24 PM
(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/gary_robyn.jpg)

Gary Giodano and Robyn Gardner

Gary is going to be held another 8 days



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 15, 2011, 04:27:28 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026344/Robyn-Gardner-case-Information-Gary-Giordanos-shady-propositions-learned-women-come-forward.html

'It's not going to be another Natalee Holloway or anything': Mother describes Aruba suspect's proposition to daughter

    Mom of aspiring model claims suspect Gary Giordano called her to set up Aruba photoshoot


By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 8:01 PM on 15th August 2011

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As he's scheduled to appear in court today, more is being learned about the man who was the last to see Robyn Gardner alive.

Aruban authorities detained Gary Giordano, 50, of Gaithersburg, Maryland, last week in connection to Miss Gardner's disappearance.

On Monday, Carrie Emerson said it's her daughter's dream to be a model and actress, but when Mr Giordano called about a possible gig, she was suspicious.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026344/Robyn-Gardner-case-Information-Gary-Giordanos-shady-propositions-learned-women-come-forward.html#ixzz1V8BrQCjD


This makes more sense to me why she would agree to go.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 15, 2011, 04:56:30 PM
Detention hearing under way in Aruba for man held in disappearance of Frederick woman
Originally published August 15, 2011, 4:26 PM - Updated 4:26 PM, August 15, 2011

   

A hearing continues at this hour to determine whether Gary Giordano of Gaithersburg will remain in Aruba for eight more days in connection with the disappearance of a Frederick woman, according to Aruban Solicitor General Taco Stein.

 ::snipping2::

Prosecutors asked that Giordano be held in Aruba for at least eight more days as they continue to investigate the case. If the judge goes against their request, then Giordano may leave the country immediately.

The judge has until 8:30 p.m. to make a decision, Stein said.

Stein said it was hard to say whether the judge would grant the order, but just asking for the extension shows that authorities believe the have sufficient ground to continue holding Giordano.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/displayUpdate.htm?StoryID=124894
Edit to snip article.  We can only post the link and partial article.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 15, 2011, 05:28:21 PM

Gary Giordano

Aruba Suspect Gary Giordano in Court Today in Robyn Gardner Disappearance
ORANJESTAD, Aruba Aug. 15, 2011


<snipped>

Two women were granted restraining orders against Giordano, and court documents obtained by ABC News show allegations of a violent assault by an ex-girlfriend.

"We argued about his past sexual lifestyle as a swinger. He started to choke me with both hands. He then shoved his fingers down my throat. I was struggling and gagging," the girlfriend testified in court documents.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-heads-court-robyn-gardner/story?id=14307322


Joran van der Sloot

Van der Sloot Confesses
DUTCHMAN SAYS HE KILLED PERUVIAN WOMAN IN FIT OF RAGE
updated Jun 8, 2010 7:38 AM CDT


<snipped>

Peruvian police have obtained what Aruba couldn't: a murder confession from Joran Van der Sloot in the killing of a young woman. The Dutchman has admitted killing Stephany Flores, 21, in his Lima hotel room, a Peruvian government official tells MSNBC. Van der Sloot says he broke her neck in a fit of rage when she used his laptop computer without permission and discovered he was involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, according to reports in the Peruvian media.

"I did not want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life," Van der Sloot is quoted as saying.

<snipped>

http://www.newser.com/story/91709/van-der-sloot-confesses.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 15, 2011, 05:29:38 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/aruba-judge-extends-detention-for-8-days-for-us-man-suspected-in-companions-death/2011/08/15/gIQAvyIdHJ_story.html

Aruba judge extends detention for 16 days for US man suspected in companion’s death
By Associated Press, Updated: Monday, August 15, 4:13 PM

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Prosecutors on the Caribbean island of Aruba say a judge has agreed to their request to continue holding an American tourist as a suspect in the death of a woman who was traveling with him.

The prosecutor’s office says in a statement the judge accepted a petition to detain Gary V. Giordano for 16 more days.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 15, 2011, 05:42:59 PM
Eight or 16 more days?  ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.gazette.net/article/20110815/NEWS/708159960/1124/1124/gaithersburg-man-will-remain-in-custody-in-aruba&template=gazette

Gaithersburg man will remain in custody in Aruba
Man will be detained at least 8 more days

by Jen Bondeson, Staff Writer
Monday, August 15, 2011

The Gaithersburg man arrested in connection with the disappearance of a Frederick woman will be detained in Aruba for at least eight more days, according to Taco H.W. Stein of the Aruban prosecutor’s office.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 05:59:32 PM
Eight or 16 more days?  ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.gazette.net/article/20110815/NEWS/708159960/1124/1124/gaithersburg-man-will-remain-in-custody-in-aruba&template=gazette

Gaithersburg man will remain in custody in Aruba
Man will be detained at least 8 more days

by Jen Bondeson, Staff Writer
Monday, August 15, 2011

The Gaithersburg man arrested in connection with the disappearance of a Frederick woman will be detained in Aruba for at least eight more days, according to Taco H.W. Stein of the Aruban prosecutor’s office.

 ::snipping2::


I just read in one of the articles linked here, that two separate requests to extend the detention eight days each, were both granted. 



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 06:02:53 PM
16 days

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35473-detencion-di-sospechoso-di-posible-hogamento-di-muher-mericano-alarga.html

Papiamentu translation:

detencion of sospechoso of posible hogamento of muher mericano alarga

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug15.gary1.gary24.jpg)

monday, 15 august 2011 17:33

on peticion of ministerio publico aruba, huez comisario owing to dicidi today for give ordo for alarga the detencion of he mericano g.v.g., sospecha of envolvimiento in the posible hogamento of the muher mericano r.g. on 2 of august 2019. his detencion owing to wordo alarga cu the termino of 16 day. ministerio publico y cuerpo policial aruba is ripiti the peticion urgente at personanan cu can give informacion tocante the sospechoso g.v.g. for acudi at keep of police or calling the tiplijn at 11141. for tips by merca owing to open one liñea of telephone separa y esey is 011- 297-5820695. on the number here can let one message.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug15.gary1.gary242.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 15, 2011, 06:07:03 PM
Eight or 16 more days?  ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.gazette.net/article/20110815/NEWS/708159960/1124/1124/gaithersburg-man-will-remain-in-custody-in-aruba&template=gazette

Gaithersburg man will remain in custody in Aruba
Man will be detained at least 8 more days

by Jen Bondeson, Staff Writer
Monday, August 15, 2011

The Gaithersburg man arrested in connection with the disappearance of a Frederick woman will be detained in Aruba for at least eight more days, according to Taco H.W. Stein of the Aruban prosecutor’s office.

 ::snipping2::


I just read in one of the articles linked here, that two separate requests to extend the detention eight days each, were both granted. 



Thanks, texasmom!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 06:08:16 PM
Looks like he's being transferred to the prison now.   ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35466-gary-giordano-ta-bai-kia.html

Papiamentu translation:

gary giordano is go kia

monday, 15 august 2011 16:25

owing to prolonga detencion of gary giordano monday nightfall. for of instant cu was atendiendo cu the voorgeleiding (arraignment) can owing to see arrival of the van of cea. owing to enter sperando the instant cu huez comisario will dicidi what will sosode. at hand owing to cuminsa haci the anotacionnan because coriente owing to go. coriente of elmar y of the delco owing to go. owing to succeed start the delco finalmente. the deliberacion all the time was follow where ministerio publico was insisti cu they have to of gary giordano behind trali. so owing to succeed convence huez comisario. monday so cu past owing to stay cla the same rato after in the van of cea gary giordano owing to go kia.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 06:10:18 PM
You're welcome grace-land, it seemed odd to me...that's why I looked for the reasoning behind it.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 06:14:31 PM
Gary looks to me like he wears a toupee or that he belongs to the hair for men club. remember when a woman in his past said that he got mad when she reached up to touch his hair? he got mad cause he didn't want her to know that it wasn't his hair..wonder if Robyn did the same thing and he snapped and hit her and beat her ? wonder if they will show him in a mugshot with his hair off..like they did Phil Spector and some others..


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 06:15:47 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/837-american-suspect-in-possible-drowning-of-tourist-remains-in-custody.html

American suspect in possible drowning of tourist remains in custody         

Monday, 15 August 2011 17:35
 
On request of the Prosecutor’s Office Aruba, the Examining Magistrate has ruled that the American man G.V.G., suspected of involvement in the possible drowning of the American woman R.G. on the 2nd of august 2011, will remain in custody for sixteen (16) more days.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 06:18:18 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026344/Robyn-Gardner-case-Information-Gary-Giordanos-shady-propositions-learned-women-come-forward.html

'It's not going to be another Natalee Holloway or anything': Mother describes Aruba suspect's proposition to daughter

    Mom of aspiring model claims suspect Gary Giordano called her to set up Aruba photoshoot


By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 8:01 PM on 15th August 2011

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As he's scheduled to appear in court today, more is being learned about the man who was the last to see Robyn Gardner alive.

Aruban authorities detained Gary Giordano, 50, of Gaithersburg, Maryland, last week in connection to Miss Gardner's disappearance.

On Monday, Carrie Emerson said it's her daughter's dream to be a model and actress, but when Mr Giordano called about a possible gig, she was suspicious.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026344/Robyn-Gardner-case-Information-Gary-Giordanos-shady-propositions-learned-women-come-forward.html#ixzz1V8BrQCjD


This makes more sense to me why she would agree to go.



yep.
.remember years ago when a photographer, lured a girl up into the mountains for a 'photo shoot' and he raped and  murdered her? I can't remember her name..pretty girl with long blonde hair...he was caught and sent to prison..


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 06:19:10 PM
A lot of international media attention in front of Aruba Courthouse         

Monday, 15 August 2011 15:13
 
 
(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_600_402_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_aug_aug15_prensa_mericano_front.jpg)

On Monday we noticed a more than usual amount of camera crew's in front of the Aruba Court House.

This was due to the possible presence of the suspect in the disappearance of American woman Robyn Gardner. Present were crews from NBC, ABC, CNN and local press. All were at the Courthouse hoping to get a glimpse of the suspect when he has to see the judge of instruction in order to hear if is detention will be prolonged.
Edit to add link per texasmom.  MB  http://arubaherald.com/911/835--a-lot-of-international-media-attention-in-front-of-aruba-courthouse.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 06:20:13 PM
Help please, I forgot the link!   :oops:  Done.  YW MB

TIA

http://arubaherald.com/911/835--a-lot-of-international-media-attention-in-front-of-aruba-courthouse.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 06:22:36 PM
http://arubaherald.com/court/836-arrest-of-gary-giordano-prolonged-in-case-of-missing-woman.html

Suspect Gary Giordano to remain in custody         


Monday, 15 August 2011 17:08
 
 
Arubaherald.com confirms that on Monday Afternoon the judge of instruction in Aruba decided that the arrest of American Gary Giordano will be prolonged. This prolongation is valid for up to 16 days. The prosecutors managed to convince the judge of instruction that they need Gary Giordano to remain arrested. Gary was being held at the San Nicolas Police station but will now be sent to the main jail in Aruba.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 15, 2011, 06:28:03 PM
I hear he's in Joran's old cell  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6205/6047519456_76874d0fa6_o.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 06:42:01 PM
I hear he's in Joran's old cell  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6205/6047519456_76874d0fa6_o.jpg)

 ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 07:57:49 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026344/Robyn-Gardner-case-Information-Gary-Giordanos-shady-propositions-learned-women-come-forward.html

'It's not going to be another Natalee Holloway or anything': Mother describes Aruba suspect's proposition to daughter

    Mom of aspiring model claims suspect Gary Giordano called her to set up Aruba photoshoot


By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 8:01 PM on 15th August 2011

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As he's scheduled to appear in court today, more is being learned about the man who was the last to see Robyn Gardner alive.

Aruban authorities detained Gary Giordano, 50, of Gaithersburg, Maryland, last week in connection to Miss Gardner's disappearance.

On Monday, Carrie Emerson said it's her daughter's dream to be a model and actress, but when Mr Giordano called about a possible gig, she was suspicious.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026344/Robyn-Gardner-case-Information-Gary-Giordanos-shady-propositions-learned-women-come-forward.html#ixzz1V8BrQCjD


This makes more sense to me why she would agree to go.



yep.
.remember years ago when a photographer, lured a girl up into the mountains for a 'photo shoot' and he raped and  murdered her? I can't remember her name..pretty girl with long blonde hair...he was caught and sent to prison..

That was this girl,  Linda Sobek. a photographer, Rathbun lured her up to the mountains in a Lexus claiming he was shooting photos of her for an Auto magazine, but the Auto magazine didn't use models, so it was all a hoax. He told police he accidentally ran her over and she died, so he panicked and buried her in a grave alongside the road, but later evidence showed that he had raped and sodomized her. Then the police found him connected to another murder of a girl in another state.

(http://storage.people.com/jpgs/19951211/19951211-205-58.jpg)


There was also not too long ago the model who was murdered and put inside of a suitcase and the police were able to trace her through her implants and got a conviction of the guy.




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 08:01:04 PM
Yes Kermit..it was Linda Sobek! beautiful girl..her death was awful from what I remember..

and yes, I remember the other case that you mentioned too...that murderer, her boyfriend killed himself right? is that the same one? Jeez! there are so many that it is hard to keep track of..what is that saying about our world???


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 08:02:29 PM
Yes Kermit..it was Linda Sobek! beautiful girl..her death was awful from what I remember..

and yes, I remember the other case that you mentioned too...that murderer, her boyfriend killed himself right? is that the same one? Jeez! there are so many that it is hard to keep track of..what is that saying about our world???

obviously he didn't kill himself if he was convicted...duh...
going to bed soon..my brain is not working..or like I said, too many cases to keep them all straight...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 15, 2011, 08:03:22 PM
Aruba Orders Suspect Gary Giordano Held in Robyn Gardner Case
ORANJESTAD, Aruba Aug. 15, 2011


An Aruba judge ordered Gary Giordano, the sole suspect in the disappearance of Maryland woman Robyn Gardner to remain in Aruba for 16 more days.

Giordano is being held in the possible drowning of 35 year-old Gardner, who is now presumed dead. Giordano told police that he and Gardner were snorkeling together when Gardner was swept out to sea, but police arrested him following inconsistencies in his story, according to Aruba authorities.

Giordano left the hearing with a shirt over his head as he was put into a police van and driven back to prison.

<snipped>

Beth Holloway, the mother of Natalee, has offered help to the efforts to find Gardner through the foundation she started, the Natalee Holloway Resource Center, in Washington, D.C. The foundation has been working with Robert Forester, Gardner's live-in boyfriend in Maryland, along with the Gardner family to get the word out about the appearance.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-judge-orders-suspect-gary-giordano-detained-16/story?id=14307322



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 08:07:58 PM
(http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/aruba%20missing%20american-621419187_v2.grid-4x2.jpg)



(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/2d/ce2d3d667375e05d765c26d636a4d4b2.jpg)

(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e8/c8/e8c81c7f764014d71d763d7212acc49e.jpg)





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 08:09:37 PM
Yes Kermit..it was Linda Sobek! beautiful girl..her death was awful from what I remember..

and yes, I remember the other case that you mentioned too...that murderer, her boyfriend killed himself right? is that the same one? Jeez! there are so many that it is hard to keep track of..what is that saying about our world???

obviously he didn't kill himself if he was convicted...duh...
going to bed soon..my brain is not working..or like I said, too many cases to keep them all straight...

I think you are correct, the boyfriend took off I think to another state.
I don't know why but the Linda Sobek case just always stuck in my mind, so when you mentioned a model that was the 1st one I thought of.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 08:09:39 PM
YIKES! ^^^^

I am taking one for the team and watching Nancy Grace and she is talking about this case.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: sandy leiva on August 15, 2011, 08:10:11 PM
I wonder if Gary took Robyn to Aruba because he thought it would be easier to dispose of a body?  No body no case, etc etc.

I've wondered that too.  But unless you knew the island, or someone else who did...would it really be that much easier?  We all know how many bodies we've seen wash up on the beaches there...would he risk that by disposing of her in the sea?  She hasn't washed up, so did he just get lucky?  Unless he's been there before or knew someone that would help him, would he know about the caves, mines, or other possible places to dispose of her where she would go undetected?  Then again, I think about the guy they found in that cactus like forest a year or so ago...he'd been there a while and no one found him. 

I'd like to hear from a woman that has traveled with Gary before, we've only heard so far from ones that he wanted to take somewhere but didn't go.  I'd like to know what went on during those trips.  Was he taking beautiful women other places to be video taped in the hotel rooms?  Remember one said he wanted to take her daughter for a photo shoot in Aruba...  Wonder what kind of photo shoot that would have been?  I just can't help but think there was something else behind these trips, for him to be so angry when the women chose not to go with him.  Whatever was behind the other trips, more than likely is connected to Robyn's disappearance.  JMO

Hope that makes sense! 




heres what i wonder    was it possible that gg gets paid for luring beautiful ladies there to traffic them and he can conviently claim they drowned while snorkaling.  plausable yes ? after all no body no case. And we know trfficing goes on there. jmo sl


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
Anyone find who the judge was that ordered Gary another 16 days in Aruba?



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 08:10:53 PM
Yes Kermit..it was Linda Sobek! beautiful girl..her death was awful from what I remember..

and yes, I remember the other case that you mentioned too...that murderer, her boyfriend killed himself right? is that the same one? Jeez! there are so many that it is hard to keep track of..what is that saying about our world???

obviously he didn't kill himself if he was convicted...duh...
going to bed soon..my brain is not working..or like I said, too many cases to keep them all straight...

I think you are correct, the boyfriend took off I think to another state.
I don't know why but the Linda Sobek case just always stuck in my mind, so when you mentioned a model that was the 1st one I thought of.

me too...I followed Linda's case...it was haunting..felt so sorry for her family.. and for her of course!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
I wonder if Gary took Robyn to Aruba because he thought it would be easier to dispose of a body?  No body no case, etc etc.

I've wondered that too.  But unless you knew the island, or someone else who did...would it really be that much easier?  We all know how many bodies we've seen wash up on the beaches there...would he risk that by disposing of her in the sea?  She hasn't washed up, so did he just get lucky?  Unless he's been there before or knew someone that would help him, would he know about the caves, mines, or other possible places to dispose of her where she would go undetected?  Then again, I think about the guy they found in that cactus like forest a year or so ago...he'd been there a while and no one found him. 

I'd like to hear from a woman that has traveled with Gary before, we've only heard so far from ones that he wanted to take somewhere but didn't go.  I'd like to know what went on during those trips.  Was he taking beautiful women other places to be video taped in the hotel rooms?  Remember one said he wanted to take her daughter for a photo shoot in Aruba...  Wonder what kind of photo shoot that would have been?  I just can't help but think there was something else behind these trips, for him to be so angry when the women chose not to go with him.  Whatever was behind the other trips, more than likely is connected to Robyn's disappearance.  JMO

Hope that makes sense! 




heres what i wonder    was it possible that gg gets paid for luring beautiful ladies there to traffic them and he can conviently claim they drowned while snorkaling.  plausable yes ? after all no body no case. And we know trfficing goes on there. jmo sl

could be! he has quite the house in Maryland...$1.3 mil dollars and seems to have money..what does he do for a living..? seems no one knows according to commentator on NG...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 08:17:11 PM
I wonder if Gary took Robyn to Aruba because he thought it would be easier to dispose of a body?  No body no case, etc etc.

I've wondered that too.  But unless you knew the island, or someone else who did...would it really be that much easier?  We all know how many bodies we've seen wash up on the beaches there...would he risk that by disposing of her in the sea?  She hasn't washed up, so did he just get lucky?  Unless he's been there before or knew someone that would help him, would he know about the caves, mines, or other possible places to dispose of her where she would go undetected?  Then again, I think about the guy they found in that cactus like forest a year or so ago...he'd been there a while and no one found him. 

I'd like to hear from a woman that has traveled with Gary before, we've only heard so far from ones that he wanted to take somewhere but didn't go.  I'd like to know what went on during those trips.  Was he taking beautiful women other places to be video taped in the hotel rooms?  Remember one said he wanted to take her daughter for a photo shoot in Aruba...  Wonder what kind of photo shoot that would have been?  I just can't help but think there was something else behind these trips, for him to be so angry when the women chose not to go with him.  Whatever was behind the other trips, more than likely is connected to Robyn's disappearance.  JMO

Hope that makes sense! 




heres what i wonder    was it possible that gg gets paid for luring beautiful ladies there to traffic them and he can conviently claim they drowned while snorkaling.  plausable yes ? after all no body no case. And we know trfficing goes on there. jmo sl

Sandy,
that was my first thought too
I know in the Natalee case there was a sting operation going on and there was an Aruban trying to lure someone posing as a young girl to Aruba.
"Joran said, "we did it 20 times before"



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 08:20:02 PM

ould be! he has quite the house in Maryland...$1.3 mil dollars and seems to have money..what does he do for a living..? seems no one knows according to commentator on NG...

Giordano is listed on the business networking site LinkedIn as the CEO of Leverage LLC, a technology consulting firm based in Gaithersburg. His profile also says he was a consultant for the Red Cross and a sales executive at Sogeti LLC


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 08:25:25 PM
thanks Kermit..
I also heard on one of the talk shows that he has 3 children who live fairly close to him with their mother...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 08:30:15 PM
(http://images.tbd.com/crime/gardner-gary-giordano-house-gaithersburg.jpg)
Gary Giordano is a divorced father of three who promotes himself as an IT consultant to large companies and is listed as CEO of a business. Phones associated with that company are disconnected.
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba-authorities-believe-gardner-dead-65060.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 15, 2011, 08:36:23 PM
thanks Kermit..
I also heard on one of the talk shows that he has 3 children who live fairly close to him with their mother...

Wouldn't it be something if we get Natalee back because of this case.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2011, 09:32:02 PM
thanks Kermit..
I also heard on one of the talk shows that he has 3 children who live fairly close to him with their mother...

Wouldn't it be something if we get Natalee back because of this case.

yes...fingers crossed...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 15, 2011, 10:42:23 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20518539,00.html

Robyn Gardner Suspect Detained in Aruba for 16 More Days
By Dahvi Shira and Siobhan Morrissey
Monday August 15, 2011 08:10 PM EDT

 ::snipping2::

While authorities continue to investigate his suspected involvement in the mysterious disappearance of travel partner Robyn Gardner, Giordano, 50, "will remain in custody for 16 more days," according to a statement released Monday by the Aruba Office of Public Prosecutor.

Giordano's lawyer, Michael Lopez, said the 16-day extension was granted because the judge felt, "there are too many open questions as of yet."

 ::snipping2::

With a striped shirt over his head, Giordano shambled from the police station in southern Aruba to an awaiting police van which was slated to take him to the KIA prison toward the southern tip of the island.

This particular prison was the same place Joran van der Sloot was held in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The prison overlooks Baby Beach, where Giordano says Gardner disappeared.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 15, 2011, 11:01:16 PM
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2498095

Aruba judge grants DNA request, orders Md. man held
Monday - 8/15/2011, 7:17pm  ET
Neal Augenstein, wtop.com

 ::snipping2::

Prosecutors "have not been required to pinpoint whether we will eventually charge murder or manslaughter, but that will come at a very much later date," Stein said in a telephone interview.

Without yet recovering a body, "kidnapping has crossed our mind as a working hypothesis, but there's no way we could corroborate that, so that working hypothesis has been dropped," he said.

Stein says prosecutors asked Giordano to voluntarily provide a DNA sample. But he acknowledges prosecutors have not found any clothing or articles belonging to Gardner directly related to the possible killing.

"It's needed for somewhere down the road, regardless of the charge," Stein said of the sample.

Stein said Giordano declined to provide the sample voluntarily. Prosecutors asked the judge to order the sample, and the request was granted.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 15, 2011, 11:11:16 PM
thanks Kermit..
I also heard on one of the talk shows that he has 3 children who live fairly close to him with their mother...

Wouldn't it be something if we get Natalee back because of this case.

yes...fingers crossed...

Good evening everyone,

I was actually thinking the same thing today.  What if this case leads to info on Natalee.  I was also thinking that maybe that's why he does so much photo, videotaping, etc.  Is he previewing these girls to someone for approval?

I can't imagine that you could travel to Aruba or anywhere and "lose" a girl that many times and get away with it.  But you could make money being a scout and luring them.  And you might have to actually help deliver a girl if you owed someone.

Wonder if Gary knows Mr. Pink?

 ::MonkeyBike::

Aruba sucks.







Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 11:12:27 PM
http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=21565FL&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

SOGETI USA
8201 GREENSBORO DRIVE 1002
MC LEAN VA 22102

http://www.us.sogeti.com/who-we-are/locations/list-us-locations/

http://www.us.sogeti.com/who-we-are/locations/list-global-locations/

 ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.sogeti.com/Curious-about-Sogeti/Our-Research-Center/Contact-us/

VINT USA
Erik van Ommeren
E-mail: Erik.vanOmmeren@sogeti.com
Phone: +1 703 734 1511 ext. 104
Address: 8201 Greensboro Drive, Suite 1002, McLean, VA 22102, USA

Visit VINT’s US site: http://www.us.sogeti.com

Erik van Ommeren
E-mail: Erik.vanOmmeren@sogeti.com
Phone: +1 703 734 1511 ext. 104
Address: 8201 Greensboro Drive, Suite 1002, McLean, VA 22102, USA

http://www.ubalt.edu/template.cfm?page=3486

 ::snipping2::

Author's Biography

Erik van Ommeren is Director of Innovation, Sogeti USA LLC. He is responsible for VINT (Vision – Inspiration - Navigation – Trends), the international research institute of Sogeti, in the USA. The VINT Research institute has published and organized events around topics such as Open Innovation/Crowdsourcing, new media developments, the business value of Information Technology and IT governance. The continuing theme of VINT research is how new technology is actually used and the resulting effects on society.
 ::snipping2::

http://nl.linkedin.com/pub/erik-van-ommeren/3/460/b78

I'm not sure if it's connected or not so I'm hesitant to post any more. 

Familiar last name from Aruba.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 15, 2011, 11:31:40 PM
I do remember an Aruban reporter, Kevin Van Ommeren.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 15, 2011, 11:32:33 PM
thanks Kermit..
I also heard on one of the talk shows that he has 3 children who live fairly close to him with their mother...

Wouldn't it be something if we get Natalee back because of this case.

yes...fingers crossed...

Good evening everyone,

I was actually thinking the same thing today.  What if this case leads to info on Natalee.  I was also thinking that maybe that's why he does so much photo, videotaping, etc.  Is he previewing these girls to someone for approval?

I can't imagine that you could travel to Aruba or anywhere and "lose" a girl that many times and get away with it.  But you could make money being a scout and luring them.  And you might have to actually help deliver a girl if you owed someone.

Wonder if Gary knows Mr. Pink?

 ::MonkeyBike::

Aruba sucks.


You're still in my head, Helen Back!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 15, 2011, 11:40:24 PM
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Hey TM!



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 12:17:08 AM
I do remember an Aruban reporter, Kevin Van Ommeren.

Yes, I think the other one that I've seen a lot of is his brother?  Darren


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 12:19:06 AM
::MonkeyJnBox::

Hey TM!


Hey Helen Back!   ::teddybear::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 01:35:47 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20518539,00.html

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08152011_People_RobynGardner.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 01:46:14 AM
http://wusa9.com/news/article/162862/44/Giordano-Ordered-Held-In-Aruba-For-16-More-Days

 ::snipping2::

Statement from Robyn Gardner's Family
Gardner's family reacts to the continued detainment of Gary Giordano

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Andrea Colson, mother of Robyn Gardner, made a statement this afternoon in reaction to the continued detainment of Gary Giordano, the suspect held in Aruba in connection to her daughter's disappearance:

"We are confident in the decision made by the Aruban authorities to keep Gary Giordano in custody, and we continue to be pleased with the way they have handled our daughter's case. We are still hoping to find out what has happened to our daughter, as we have not given up hope that she may still be alive. This has been such a hard time for all of Robyn's family and friends, and we are grateful for all the support that has come from communities around the world. We just want to find our daughter, and we continue to ask the public for any tips they may have in helping our Robyn come home."

At this time, the family is choosing not to speak with media, and appreciates that all media members continue to respect their privacy. Additionally, the Natalee Holloway Resource Center has set up a confidential tipline for any credible tips on Robyn's disappearance or current whereabouts. Anyone with any information can call 407-237-2295. All tips will be reported to the FBI for investigation.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 02:00:12 AM
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2498095

Aruba judge grants DNA request, orders Md. man held

Monday - 8/15/2011, 7:17pm  ET
Neal Augenstein, wtop.com

 ::snipping2::

The prosecutor's office said in a statement that Giordano is "suspected of involvement in the possible drowning" of Gardner, whose body has not been found.

Prosecutors "have not been required to pinpoint whether we will eventually charge murder or manslaughter, but that will come at a very much later date," Stein said in a telephone interview.

Without yet recovering a body, "kidnapping has crossed our mind as a working hypothesis, but there's no way we could corroborate that, so that working hypothesis has been dropped," he said.

Stein says prosecutors asked Giordano to voluntarily provide a DNA sample. But he acknowledges prosecutors have not found any clothing or articles belonging to Gardner directly related to the possible killing.

"It's needed for somewhere down the road, regardless of the charge," Stein said of the sample.

Stein said Giordano declined to provide the sample voluntarily. Prosecutors asked the judge to order the sample, and the request was granted.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 02:19:40 AM
I wonder if Gary took Robyn to Aruba because he thought it would be easier to dispose of a body?  No body no case, etc etc.

I've wondered that too.  But unless you knew the island, or someone else who did...would it really be that much easier?  We all know how many bodies we've seen wash up on the beaches there...would he risk that by disposing of her in the sea?  She hasn't washed up, so did he just get lucky?  Unless he's been there before or knew someone that would help him, would he know about the caves, mines, or other possible places to dispose of her where she would go undetected?  Then again, I think about the guy they found in that cactus like forest a year or so ago...he'd been there a while and no one found him. 

I'd like to hear from a woman that has traveled with Gary before, we've only heard so far from ones that he wanted to take somewhere but didn't go.  I'd like to know what went on during those trips.  Was he taking beautiful women other places to be video taped in the hotel rooms?  Remember one said he wanted to take her daughter for a photo shoot in Aruba...  Wonder what kind of photo shoot that would have been?  I just can't help but think there was something else behind these trips, for him to be so angry when the women chose not to go with him.  Whatever was behind the other trips, more than likely is connected to Robyn's disappearance.  JMO

Hope that makes sense! 


heres what i wonder    was it possible that gg gets paid for luring beautiful ladies there to traffic them and he can conviently claim they drowned while snorkaling.  plausable yes ? after all no body no case. And we know trfficing goes on there. jmo sl

In my opnion, yes it is possible. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 02:35:21 AM
thanks Kermit..
I also heard on one of the talk shows that he has 3 children who live fairly close to him with their mother...

http://maps.google.com/

2/10 of a mile, 30 sec drive; 3 min walk

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08142011_Distance_Giordano_1stExWife.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 03:00:19 AM
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

8/16/2011 Front Page

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08162011_AweMainta_FrontPage.jpg)

8/16/2011 Page 3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08162011_AweMainta_Page3-1.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 03:26:25 AM
http://www.24ora.com/corte-mainmenu-29/35474-sospechoso-gary-giordano-a-yega-kia.html

Papiamentu translation:

sospechoso gary giordano owing to arrive kia      

Monday, 15 August 2011 19:05

 ::snipping2::

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.augustus.aug15.gary_kia.24orakia2.jpg)


Title: Re: BREEANN RODRIGUEZ 3, Endangered Missing: Aug 6, 2011 SENATH MO(Arrest)
Post by: klaasend on August 16, 2011, 10:08:56 AM
Interesting SM front page post:

Quote
Cooch
Submitted on 2011/08/16 at 8:00 am

As a child I played in some tunnels in “The Colony” it is where the large gate is in “Grape Field” in that general area. Did they ever search those tunnels? Though I heard that those holes in the ground were long covered over or filled. Just an idea that came up since the last lost person was in “Baby Beach” as is reported!

http://www.lago-colony.com/SUPPOR_BUILDINGS/CAVES.htm


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 16, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
I wonder if Gary took Robyn to Aruba because he thought it would be easier to dispose of a body?  No body no case, etc etc.

I've wondered that too.  But unless you knew the island, or someone else who did...would it really be that much easier?  We all know how many bodies we've seen wash up on the beaches there...would he risk that by disposing of her in the sea?  She hasn't washed up, so did he just get lucky?  Unless he's been there before or knew someone that would help him, would he know about the caves, mines, or other possible places to dispose of her where she would go undetected?  Then again, I think about the guy they found in that cactus like forest a year or so ago...he'd been there a while and no one found him. 

I'd like to hear from a woman that has traveled with Gary before, we've only heard so far from ones that he wanted to take somewhere but didn't go.  I'd like to know what went on during those trips.  Was he taking beautiful women other places to be video taped in the hotel rooms?  Remember one said he wanted to take her daughter for a photo shoot in Aruba...  Wonder what kind of photo shoot that would have been?  I just can't help but think there was something else behind these trips, for him to be so angry when the women chose not to go with him.  Whatever was behind the other trips, more than likely is connected to Robyn's disappearance.  JMO

Hope that makes sense! 


heres what i wonder    was it possible that gg gets paid for luring beautiful ladies there to traffic them and he can conviently claim they drowned while snorkaling.  plausable yes ? after all no body no case. And we know trfficing goes on there. jmo sl

In my opnion, yes it is possible. 

I agree.  IMO, it's possible.

Morning everyone. 

 :salut:



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 16, 2011, 10:37:01 AM
Just saw Jossy on TV.  He looks good, looks like he may have lost some weight. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 16, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
MD Man Stays Behind Bars In Woman's Disappearance
Monday, August 15, 2011


Prosecutors on the Caribbean island of Aruba say a judge has agreed to their request to continue holding an American tourist as a suspect in the death of a woman who was traveling with him.

The prosecutor's office says in a statement the judge accepted a petition to detain Gary V. Giordano for 16 more days.

Investigators say they need the additional time to investigate Giordano. Prosecutors have said he is a suspect in the death of travel companion Robyn Gardner.

<snipped>

Statement from Robyn Gardner’s Family
Gardner’s family reacts to the continued detainment of Gary Giordano


<snipped>

At this time, the family is choosing not to speak with media, and appreciates that all media members continue to respect their privacy. Additionally, the Natalee Holloway Resource Center has set up a confidential tipline for any credible tips on Robyn’s disappearance or current whereabouts. Anyone with any information can call 407-237-2295.  All tips will be reported to the FBI for investigation.

About the Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)

The Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC) provides families of missing persons with an action plan, missing poster templates, contacts, resources, and handles press releases and media reach.  NHRC also provides education programs for traveling safe, crime prevention, and encourages careers in the fields of forensic science and law enforcement.  NHRC operates out of the National Museum of Crime & Punishment in Washington, D.C. For more information, visit

http://helpthemissing.org/

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The book retells events leading up to the night Natalee Holloway disappeared during a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005, and the ensuing investigation in the aftermath. It then focuses on the obstacles faced by the Holloway-Twitty family in their search for Natalee's whereabouts. Holloway recounts her anger at what she felt was a lack of cooperation from local authorities such as the Aruba Police Force, including the failure to obtain a warrant to search the home of suspect Joran van der Sloot.

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http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 16, 2011, 11:57:25 AM

Website:
Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
http://helpthemissing.org/

Facebook:
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 12:53:19 PM
Just saw Jossy on TV.  He looks good, looks like he may have lost some weight. 

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 12:57:54 PM
http://youtu.be/6TS9J2V2mBg

Uploaded by ABCNews on Aug 15, 2011

A look at the restaurant in Aruba where Robyn Gardner was last seen alive.

http://www.youtube.com/v/6TS9J2V2mBg?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 16, 2011, 01:04:26 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/aruba-dive-shop-owner-person-robyn-gardner/story?id=14315628

Aruba Dive Shop Owner Was Last Person to See Robyn Gardner

The last person to see Robyn Gardner and Gary Giordano together was the owner of a dive shop on Aruba who noticed their car far out on a rocky point of the island which he thought was an unlikely place to be snorkeling.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 01:18:10 PM
http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/16/aruba-suspect-accusers-speak-out/?hpt=ng_mid

(video)

Aruba Suspect Accusers Speak Out


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 01:19:55 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/aruba-dive-shop-owner-person-robyn-gardner/story?id=14315628

Aruba Dive Shop Owner Was Last Person to See Robyn Gardner

The last person to see Robyn Gardner and Gary Giordano together was the owner of a dive shop on Aruba who noticed their car far out on a rocky point of the island which he thought was an unlikely place to be snorkeling.

 ::snipping2::

This is in the video that I embedded right before this post, the owner didn't speak on camera but you can see the area where Robyn (or the vehicle anyway) was.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 16, 2011, 01:29:22 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/aruba-dive-shop-owner-person-robyn-gardner/story?id=14315628

Aruba Dive Shop Owner Was Last Person to See Robyn Gardner

The last person to see Robyn Gardner and Gary Giordano together was the owner of a dive shop on Aruba who noticed their car far out on a rocky point of the island which he thought was an unlikely place to be snorkeling.

 ::snipping2::


This is in the video that I embedded right before this post, the owner didn't speak on camera but you can see the area where Robyn (or the vehicle anyway) was.

Thanks for the updates, guys! 

Rum Reef owner says they didn't rent any snorkeling equipment, and I betcha there was none in the car or hotel room either. 

"Isolated" spot unlikely for snorkeling.   

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 16, 2011, 01:35:42 PM
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2498095

Aruba judge grants DNA request, orders Md. man held
Monday - 8/15/2011, 7:17pm  ET
Neal Augenstein, wtop.com

 ::snipping2::

Prosecutors "have not been required to pinpoint whether we will eventually charge murder or manslaughter, but that will come at a very much later date," Stein said in a telephone interview.

Without yet recovering a body, "kidnapping has crossed our mind as a working hypothesis, but there's no way we could corroborate that, so that working hypothesis has been dropped," he said.  Edit to change red color to navy.

Stein says prosecutors asked Giordano to voluntarily provide a DNA sample. But he acknowledges prosecutors have not found any clothing or articles belonging to Gardner directly related to the possible killing.

"It's needed for somewhere down the road, regardless of the charge," Stein said of the sample.

Stein said Giordano declined to provide the sample voluntarily. Prosecutors asked the judge to order the sample, and the request was granted.

 ::snipping2::


Aruban prosecutors still spinning the same old BS!  Will they ever learn?

They have found no evidence of a kidnapping, so they have dropped that working hypothesis.  However, they are comfortable going forward with a hypothesis of murder or manslaughter.   In the absence of evidence of a murder or manslaughter, I say all theories are on the table.  

I wonder if they have noticed that big blue thing with all the boats in it?

 ::MonkeyTongue::

 


Title: Re: BREEANN RODRIGUEZ 3, Endangered Missing: Aug 6, 2011 SENATH MO(Arrest)
Post by: Kermit on August 16, 2011, 01:37:17 PM
Interesting SM front page post:

Quote
Cooch
Submitted on 2011/08/16 at 8:00 am

As a child I played in some tunnels in “The Colony” it is where the large gate is in “Grape Field” in that general area. Did they ever search those tunnels? Though I heard that those holes in the ground were long covered over or filled. Just an idea that came up since the last lost person was in “Baby Beach” as is reported!

http://www.lago-colony.com/SUPPOR_BUILDINGS/CAVES.htm

from Natalee case:
2:30 pm AP - Police found the mattress in thick brush at Grapefield beach.
 Edit to change red color to navy.

(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1694/grapefield.jpg)
this map lists grapefield




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 01:43:25 PM
http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/august_16__2011

8/16/2011 The Morning News Page 3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08162011_TheMorningNewsPage3.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 05:36:40 PM
Last October, a new prosecutor came from the Netherlands who was said to be an expert in human trafficking.  Lars Stempher is his name, I posted some of what I could find about him then, at the links below.  I know he probably has his hands full with the Alex Mathew/Foxy Lady trial coming up, but I hope he is sharing his expertise as well with those working on Robyn's disappearance.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8656.260

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8656.msg1243756#msg1243756

Quote
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_flippingbook&book_id=2

10/7/2010 Bondia Page 3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%2024%20102010/10072010_BondiaAruba_03a-1.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

is seems cu ministerio publico owing to attain two fiscal new fiscal experto on traficacion by person at present is form part by ministerio publico

oranjestad - while cu corte by husticia by aruba owing to attain three judge new, ministerio publico not owing to remain behind. redactor by casonan by corte can owing to compronde cu at ministerio publico have caranan new. have indicacion strong cu ministerio publico at present owing to attain two fiscal new. do not conoci, if they y owing to huramenta but can owing to compronde cu one by the fiscalnan is specialisa in traficacion by person. manner redactor by casonan by corte owing to arrive by publica, for by kingdom hulaandes the senalnan owing to arrive at aruba on traficacion by person y the trato inhumano cu the personanan is attain. esey was motibo also cu owing to bay haci one investigacion at foxy lady caminda among another the propietario owing to wordo deteni. do not nothing strano cu at present ministerio publico is count ; cu one experto on the ground here. apparently have indicacionnan cu will have more actividadnan is tumando lugar in kingdom dutch y cu have to by one experto serca by the actividadnan here before so can actua debidamente. redactor by casonan by corte can owing to compronde cu the two fiscalnan new, recientemente owing to cuminsa is work at ministerio publico. is deal here by mr. lars stemper y mr. vreneli vreeling. mr. stemper owing to arrive by visit aruba come to anend y the is the experto in traficacion by person. is by wait for cu dentro by some will can attain informacion oficial by part by ministerio publico encuanto the two fiscalnan new. come across
 ::snipping2::


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8656.msg1243759#msg1243759

Quote
http://www.om.nl/actueel/opportuun/@153625/opportuun_mei_2010/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/LarsStempher.jpg)

Eurojust is the pivot of a border research smuggling officer Lars Stempher turned.
"For us it was a simple matter, but international situation was different. "

Research in Europe
EU Member States will address jointly organized international human trafficking

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 05:58:07 PM
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/curacao/215422/PR_2011/Press%20Release%20Curacao%20and%20Aruba%20TIP%202011.pdf

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/TraffickinginPersonsReport_2011.jpg)

To read the full report:

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2011/index.htm

To specifically read about Aruba and Curacao

(Countries A-C)

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2011/164231.htm


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 06:10:25 PM
http://perezhilton.com/2011-08-11-woman-missing-in-arubas-boyfriend-speaks

Boyfriend Of Woman Who Went Missing In Aruba Speaks

Filed under: Sad Sad

 ::snipping2::

For starters, he said something seemed off about the vacation from the beginning, because she claimed that her parents changed the destination for their family vacation from Orlando, FL to Aruba.

Then, he tried to contact her on Facebook, but the only correspondence he got from her was a Facebook wall post saying "This sucks."

More from Richard about it:

"I emailed her the rest of the day trying to get in touch with her. She sent me an inbox message on Facebook around 3 p.m. Tuesday, saying, 'Don't worry. I care about you I love you we'll talk and sort things out when I got back."

After that, Robyn's boyfriend never heard from her again. When he learned that she was on the island with Gary Giordano, he said he'd never met the man but had been told that he was her "gay friend."

Richard claims that someone was using her Gmail account after she was reported missing. He says he saw her online, but he would never get a response when he tried to message her.

He was then contacted by a woman who says she used to date Robyn's "gay friend." Here's what he had to say about their interaction:

"A woman who used to date him contacted me and told me Giordano is very technologically savvy. This woman said he'd get into a person's email account, pick up their personality and would then take on that persona."

Aside from the Gmail situation, Richard also says that Robyn would never have gone snorkeling, even though Giordano claims she went missing while snorkeling. Very suspicious.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 06:38:35 PM
http://scm.oas.org/pdfs/2011/CP25570T.pdf

Victim Assistance:  Multilateral Cooperation

Presenter
Jeannette Richardson-Baars MA, Deputy Commissioner (Ag) of Police, Aruba National Police,
Chair of the working group for countertrafficking activities & National Coordinator Anti-Human Trafficking & Smuggling

 ::snipping2::

• Aruba is a destination country for trafficking in persons

• Risk sectors are: prostitution and labor (service and construction industry)

• In 2007 an interdepartmental and interdisciplinary working group for counter-trafficking activities was installed

• Governmental and semi-governmental agencies tasked with anti-trafficking efforts are represented in the working group

• Partners in the working group are:
– Aruba Police Force (chair)
– Public Prosecutors Office
– Directorate of Alien Policy, Admission & Integration
– Directorate of Foreign Affairs
– Directorate of Labor & Research
– Directorate of Social Affairs
• Bureau for Victim Assistance
– Directorate of Public Health
– Directorate of National Security
– Coastguard Aruba & Netherlands Antilles

 ::snipping2::

• Results so far:

– the training of government officials in victim identification and victim assistance is ongoing

– a draft for a publicity and awareness campaign has been completed

– a telephone helpline has been established (+297)5923231 as well as an email adress LCMM@kparuba.com

– an outline for a study on human trafficking and the sex industry has been drafted

– an committee (police, prosecutor, labor, alien affairs) has been installed to review information on possible cases of human trafficking (case study)

– an investigative team has been assigned to handle cases of human trafficking

– a basic referral procedure for cases and / or victims of human trafficking has been established

• the Country Coordinator has to be informed immediately of any possible cases of human trafficking and will alert the review committee

• the Bureau for Victim Assistance will take care of shelter and support for the victims

• In 2009 a Memory of Understanding on trafficking in persons, human smuggling and illegal immigration was signed by the ministers of Justice of the Netherlands, the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba to ensure further cooperation and support between the partners in the Kingdom of the Netherlands

 ::snipping2::

What happened in 2010?

- one investigation into labor exploitation (HK Taylor)
* one victim, one suspect

- one investigation into sexual / labor exploitation (Strea)
* seven victims, four suspects
* forty-five possible victims

(I think this outlines the Alex Mathew/Foxy Lady case currently proceeding in Aruba...jmo)

at the end of 2009 two American females reported the loss of their passports

• they had been employed by Mister X as dancers in his club and he had taken their passports for safekeeping

• the police officer made a copy of their contract and contacted the National Coordinator who alerted the multi-disciplinary review committee

• a preliminary investigation led to sufficient indications of possible human trafficking and the case was handed to the Organized Crimes Unit for further investigation

• during the meeting of the National Coordinators a strategy for further cooperation was determined

• in the beginning of 2010 a Lithuanian female in Curacao made a complaint against Mister X, claiming to be a victim of human trafficking

• a male employee reported to have been forced into cooperation by the use of extreme violence

• in the summer of 2010 two Ukrainian females came to a police station and claimed to
have escaped from Mister X

• the investigation was intensified and preparations were made to arrest Mister X and his accomplices

• due to the risk for the victims it was decided they could not receive safe shelter on Aruba

• the Joint Investigations Teams NA&A provided the finances for transport to Curacao and later reinforced the investigative team

• the Victim Assistance Bureau Curacao provided shelter for the victims and made the necessary arrangements with IOM for return

• the National Police Service in the Netherlands provided for an expert investigator to join the team

• the National Prosecutors Office in the Netherlands provided for a specialized prosecutor

• during the raid at Mister X’s club two Brazilian females also claimed to be victims of
human trafficking and they were also transported to Curacao

• four arrests were made: Mister X, his girlfriend, his bodyguard and a police officer

• Mister X was transported to the prison in Bonaire

• the connection between Mister X and government employees is currently under investigation

• after the arrest two Russian females working in Spain contacted the investigative team to report that they were also Mister X’s victims

• more than seventy former employees have been identified of which forty-five possibly are victims of human trafficking

• the charges against Mister X will most likely include: human trafficking, being part of a criminal organization, money laundering and assault

Current status of the case:

- after his arrest Mister X was placed in preliminary detention and led before the investigative
judge

- the investigative judge ordered to interview several of the potential victims and witnesses
in this case

- as a result 10 more victims made an official compliant against Mister X for human trafficking

- Mister X made his first appearance before the court on the 17th of December 2010 and will do so again on the 1st of April 2011

- the case is expected to be brought before the court in the third or fourth trimester of 2011

- the nationalities of the known victims are: Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Brazilian, Russian, Hungarian, German, French and Scottish.

Partners in the STREA investigation are:

• The Aruba Police Force
• The Joint Investigations Teams NA&A
• The Prosecutors Office of Aruba and the Netherlands
• The National Coordinator of Aruba, Netherlands Antilles and the Netherlands
• The Victims Assistance Bureau Aruba and Curacao
• The National Police Service of the Netherlands
• The International Organization for Migration


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 07:20:49 PM
Look at the girl standing by former Prime Minister Nelson Oduber in the bottom row of the pictures.... ::MonkeyEek::

She looks a lot like Robyn imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

4/2/2009 Awe Mainta Page 25

http://awemainta.com/home/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%206%200409/04022009AweMaintaPg25.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

minister president owing to haci aperture of one establecimento new at san nicolas

diabierna night did take lugar aperture oficial of the bar y restaurant foxy lady situa at san nicolas. this is one establecimento exclusivo y of alta calidad cu will help at eleva the desaroyo in the districto here. minister president sr. nelson oduber - in presencia of the owner, sr. alex mathew y family, parlamentarionan y several another invitado - had the honor of haci the aperture here. past owing to felicita sr. mathew y desea his person all clase of exito cu his lugar new. without doubt some cu the inversion here, once more confianza is being demostra in the desaroyo positive of san nicolas y becindario.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
August 2010

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/curacao/5/2010/WEEKLY_News_081410.pdf

 ::snipping2::

Aruba – “Foxy Lady” Nightclub TIP Case; Alex Mathew Arrested

Alex Mathew and three others were arrested after Dutch authorities received a report
from the Ukraine about possible Trafficking in Persons violations at the Aruba “Foxy
Lady” Nightclub.
In 2005 the Dutch Government has been ordered to pay Alex Mathew
10,000 Euros in damages by the European Court for Human Rights, because of the
punishment he was given after he beat Ben Vocking, the warden of Aruba’s KIA prison,
in 2001. Because of his Aruban prison history, Mathew was moved a Bonaire detention
center. (Various media)
 ::snipping2::


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08052010_FoxyLadyRaid.jpg)



http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/08/08/raid-at-foxy-lady-on-arubas-one-happy-island-due-to-human-trafficking-joran-van-der-sloot-thailand-human-trafficking-hmm/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 07:54:36 PM
Open Letter from Alex Mathew published in Diario Jan 2011, in English

I don't really know what to think about it all anymore, but some of what he says does ring true imo. 

http://www.diario.aw/2011/01/carta-di-alex-mathew-tocante-atencion-di-gobierno-riba-asunto-di-traficacion-di-hende/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 07:57:35 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gmUXd_QR9uii_C7lSnN_um9OZZvw?docId=b76a8f3ea3e944478e1e09636f2e17c8

Aruba plans search for missing US woman's remains

(AP) – 3 hours ago 

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Aruban authorities announced plans Tuesday for an extensive search involving police, firefighters and possibly the military as investigators try to determine what happened to a missing American woman.

The search was expected to start later this week and would be centered around the southern part of the Dutch Caribbean island near where 35-year-old Robyn Gardner was reported missing by her travel companion, Solicitor General Taco Stein said.

"We are trying to put a substantial team together" to conduct the search, Stein told The Associated Press.

Police and firefighters searched an abandoned phosphate mine in the area but did not find any trace of Gardner.

The new search will involve many more people and will cover a larger area in the hunt for the woman's body or any evidence linked to her, Stein said.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 07:58:41 PM
There should have been a  ::snipping2:: at the bottom of that post...sorry!   :2doh:


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 08:04:01 PM
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Prosecutors-Consider-Manslaughter-Charges-in-Aruba-Disappearance-127903578.html

Prosecutors Consider Manslaughter Charges in Aruba Disappearance

Aruba plans search for missing US woman's remains

By Jackie Bensen |  Tuesday, Aug 16, 2011  |  Updated 7:52 PM EDT

Prosecutors in Aruba are considering manslaughter charges against 50-year-old Gary Giordano, who is suspected in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner on Aug. 2.

 ::snipping2::

On Monday, a judge ruled that there is enough evidence to keep Giordano in custody for another 16 days. Prosecutors will have access to new evidence during that time, including the results of the FBI search of Giordano’s Gaithersburg home and interviews with women Giordano dated in the past.

 ::snipping2::

Aruban legal analyst Milko Baiz said the authorities have state-of-the-art forensic analysis.

“We have support of the criminal lab of the Netherlands in The Hague, and all material is sent there to be tested and to be checked,” he said.

Meanwhile, Aruban authorities are planning an extensive search for Gardner, using police, firefighters and possibly the military. They will be searching the southern part of the island near where Gardner was reported missing by Giordano, Stein said. The operation is still being organized and is not expected to start for several days.

 ::snipping2::





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 08:08:35 PM
On Nancy Grace...BOMBSHELL! 

Robyn was only wearing a bikini when she had lunch with Giordano right before he reported her missing. 

GARY WEARS A TOUPEE, and wouldn't SNORKEL WEARING THE TOUPEE! 
(Can't remember who said it here...but they were right!  ::MonkeyDevil::  )



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 16, 2011, 08:13:50 PM
On Nancy Grace...BOMBSHELL! 

Robyn was only wearing a bikini when she had lunch with Giordano right before he reported her missing. 

GARY WEARS A TOUPEE, and wouldn't SNORKEL WEARING THE TOUPEE! 
(Can't remember who said it here...but they were right!  ::MonkeyDevil::  )

thought I heard they found Gary's camera.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 08:16:54 PM
On Nancy Grace...BOMBSHELL! 

Robyn was only wearing a bikini when she had lunch with Giordano right before he reported her missing. 

GARY WEARS A TOUPEE, and wouldn't SNORKEL WEARING THE TOUPEE! 
(Can't remember who said it here...but they were right!  ::MonkeyDevil::  )

thought I heard they found Gary's camera.



I didn't catch it all, so I could have missed it.  Nancy dropped the bombshells and then changed the subject so hopefully the rest of the story will be coming up at some point.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: labubske on August 16, 2011, 08:19:31 PM
That pic from texasmom...does look like Robyn...wow.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 08:25:04 PM
That pic from texasmom...does look like Robyn...wow.


Robyn has the look they like in those establishments, I've seen a lot of pictures of the girls they had in that one in particular. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I just hope they find her, so we'll KNOW if she's alive or dead.  I hope and pray another family doesn't have to live with the anguish of not knowing for years to come.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
Nancy Grace saiys..

7 women have come forward so far with stories about their experience with Giordano.

Robyn was reportedly in a string bikini and Giordano in street clothes when they had lunch before Robyn was reported missing.  Authorities are now searching land areas for Robyn's bikini.

Aruban Prosecutor "Certain suspect has done something wrong, leading to Robyn's death."

Ex girlfriend says Giordano has a toupee or hairweave, never wanted to get it wet; no way he would go snorkeling.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 08:52:38 PM
Nancy Grace saiys..

7 women have come forward so far with stories about their experience with Giordano.

Robyn was reportedly in a string bikini and Giordano in street clothes when they had lunch before Robyn was reported missing.  Authorities are now searching land areas for Robyn's bikini.

Aruban Prosecutor "Certain suspect has done something wrong, leading to Robyn's death."

Ex girlfriend says Giordano has a toupee or hairweave, never wanted to get it wet; no way he would go snorkeling.


Kermit was right, Giordano's digital camera has been found and seized.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 08:53:29 PM
And there are pictures...



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 08:54:29 PM
 
::FlyingFrog::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 16, 2011, 09:16:56 PM
On Nancy Grace...BOMBSHELL! 

Robyn was only wearing a bikini when she had lunch with Giordano right before he reported her missing. 

GARY WEARS A TOUPEE, and wouldn't SNORKEL WEARING THE TOUPEE! 
(Can't remember who said it here...but they were right!  ::MonkeyDevil::  )



that would be me! lol...hair for me club or else a toupee...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 09:20:20 PM
On Nancy Grace...BOMBSHELL! 

Robyn was only wearing a bikini when she had lunch with Giordano right before he reported her missing. 

GARY WEARS A TOUPEE, and wouldn't SNORKEL WEARING THE TOUPEE! 
(Can't remember who said it here...but they were right!  ::MonkeyDevil::  )



that would be me! lol...hair for me club or else a toupee...

Well great catch Cookie, sorry I didn't remember it was you!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 16, 2011, 09:23:56 PM
On Nancy Grace...BOMBSHELL! 

Robyn was only wearing a bikini when she had lunch with Giordano right before he reported her missing. 

GARY WEARS A TOUPEE, and wouldn't SNORKEL WEARING THE TOUPEE! 
(Can't remember who said it here...but they were right!  ::MonkeyDevil::  )



that would be me! lol...hair for me club or else a toupee...

Well great catch Cookie, sorry I didn't remember it was you!    ::MonkeyCool::

I noticed it when he was walking along the beach with I think a lady detective ..he scratched his head and his hair moved..in an odd way...like he was patting it back into place ....


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 09:36:51 PM
On Nancy Grace...BOMBSHELL! 

Robyn was only wearing a bikini when she had lunch with Giordano right before he reported her missing. 

GARY WEARS A TOUPEE, and wouldn't SNORKEL WEARING THE TOUPEE! 
(Can't remember who said it here...but they were right!  ::MonkeyDevil::  )



that would be me! lol...hair for me club or else a toupee...

Well great catch Cookie, sorry I didn't remember it was you!    ::MonkeyCool::

I noticed it when he was walking along the beach with I think a lady detective ..he scratched his head and his hair moved..in an odd way...like he was patting it back into place ....

I just watched that video a little while ago, I hadn't noticed it before...but I did then!  Yep, he was afraid there was some movement.  I bet it'll be in good shape after a couple weeks in KIA!

 ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 09:38:08 PM
Maybe that's why he had the shirt over his head yesterday.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 16, 2011, 09:49:30 PM
Maybe that's why he had the shirt over his head yesterday.   ::MonkeyWink::

LMAO TM!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Good call Cookie!  I didn't think it was a toupee because, who would pick THAT hair?  Oh well. 

Didn't some other woman say he got really upset one time when she accidentally brushed her hand against his hair?

I did hear they got his digital camera.  Bet the FBI has their hands on plenty too.





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 16, 2011, 09:50:58 PM
Maybe that's why he had the shirt over his head yesterday.   ::MonkeyWink::

yes..I had posted that I wondered if they made him take off his toupee like they did Phil Spector when he had his mug shot done..maybe they don't allow toupees in jail? they could smuggle something under it into the jail..like a doobie or maybe a candy bar or something lol...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 16, 2011, 09:51:47 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6051073049_9a20ca7b86_b.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 16, 2011, 09:51:54 PM
Maybe that's why he had the shirt over his head yesterday.   ::MonkeyWink::

LMAO TM!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Good call Cookie!  I didn't think it was a toupee because, who would pick THAT hair?  Oh well. 

Didn't some other woman say he got really upset one time when she accidentally brushed her hand against his hair?

I did hear they got his digital camera.  Bet the FBI has their hands on plenty too.





yes indeedee...she did!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 09:56:36 PM
Cookie, is this the same part you're talking about?  Click on the picture for a short clip of the video.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/th_GaryGiordano_Hair1.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/?action=view&current=GaryGiordano_Hair1.mp4)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 16, 2011, 09:57:56 PM
Cookie, is this the same part you're talking about?  Click on the picture for a short clip of the video.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/th_GaryGiordano_Hair1.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/?action=view&current=GaryGiordano_Hair1.mp4)

yep! that is the one! what man does that to his hair unless it is not his hair?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 10:04:19 PM
Maybe that's why he had the shirt over his head yesterday.   ::MonkeyWink::

yes..I had posted that I wondered if they made him take off his toupee like they did Phil Spector when he had his mug shot done..maybe they don't allow toupees in jail? they could smuggle something under it into the jail..like a doobie or maybe a candy bar or something lol...

Awww now Cookie, they issue them a doobie, a cellphone (since Paulus kicked the bucket), and a candy bar when they check in at KIA!  They have to design their own weapon to protect their issued items in their spare time.  Heck they must have issued Alex Mathew a laptop since he's still posting on Facebook!


 ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 10:08:54 PM
Cookie, is this the same part you're talking about?  Click on the picture for a short clip of the video.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/th_GaryGiordano_Hair1.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/?action=view&current=GaryGiordano_Hair1.mp4)

yep! that is the one! what man does that to his hair unless it is not his hair?

It definitely didn't look normal, later on he kept scratching the back of his head, maybe the glue was running in that heat!

I guess they use glue or something to hold it on right?  I really don't know!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 10:10:30 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6051073049_9a20ca7b86_b.jpg)

Thanks Klaas!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 16, 2011, 10:15:38 PM
lol...
well good nite friends..

o/t...Jerseygirl supplied an article that they have found Breeann's little body...

gonna hug my little grand daughters extra hard tomorrow...say a little prayer of thanks that I can do that..and send a little prayer up for Breeann and her parents... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 10:18:39 PM
Maybe that's why he had the shirt over his head yesterday.   ::MonkeyWink::

LMAO TM!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Good call Cookie!  I didn't think it was a toupee because, who would pick THAT hair?  Oh well. 

Didn't some other woman say he got really upset one time when she accidentally brushed her hand against his hair?

I did hear they got his digital camera.  Bet the FBI has their hands on plenty too.


He was trying to match what the good Lord gave and then took away I guess.   ::MonkeyWink::

Yes, I remember that about the other woman touching his hair.  And I bet the FBI got a lot in their search too.

I hope they have enough to prosecute him, if they end up letting him go...some of those who have been speaking out about him are going to need protection.

He's crazy!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 16, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
Cookie, is this the same part you're talking about?  Click on the picture for a short clip of the video.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/th_GaryGiordano_Hair1.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/?action=view&current=GaryGiordano_Hair1.mp4)

yep! that is the one! what man does that to his hair unless it is not his hair?

It definitely didn't look normal, later on he kept scratching the back of his head, maybe the glue was running in that heat!

I guess they use glue or something to hold it on right?  I really don't know!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh Lawd!  That whole thing moved!   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 10:24:26 PM
lol...
well good nite friends..

o/t...Jerseygirl supplied an article that they have found Breeann's little body...

gonna hug my little grand daughters extra hard tomorrow...say a little prayer of thanks that I can do that..and send a little prayer up for Breeann and her parents... ::MonkeyAngel::

So sad about little Breeann...just senseless!   ::MonkeyTears::

But I'm glad they've found her, so her parents can give their precious baby a proper burial.   ::MonkeyAngel::

I don't have grandchildren yet, and I'm really afraid of how paranoid I'll be one day if I'm blessed with them...trying to keep them safe after all I've seen here.  Lord help me.

'nite Cookie


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 16, 2011, 10:25:23 PM
Helen Back!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I know, I couldn't believe I missed it when I watched it before.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 16, 2011, 10:52:11 PM


So, if I heard correctly on NG tonight, it was two hours from the time Robyn was last seen in the restaurant, until the time that Gary called 911.  I had heard previously that the Aruban police were suspicious that some time had passed after he came on shore without her, until the time he made the call. 


That's a very small amount of time to kill and effectively disappear a person, IMO. 

 ::MonkeyShocked::







Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 17, 2011, 12:27:42 AM

Robyn Gardner, Bethesda woman missing in Aruba
August 8, 2011 - 07:20 pm


<snipped>
 
Gardner, who lived and worked in Bethesda, left for Aruba on July 31st. Richard Forester says they had been dating for two and a half years, but quarreled before she left. He received his last e-mail from Gardner Tuesday, three hours before she was reported missing.

“The last message I got from her was ‘I love you,’” Forester said. “We will talk and sort things out when I get back,” Gardner wrote.

<snipped>

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-frederick-woman-missing-in-aruba-64854.html


BUMPED


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 17, 2011, 12:29:02 AM
Considering there was only a three hour span of time between an email communication that Robyn had with Richard Forester and the time the Gary Giordano reported her missing ... it makes sense that the scene of the crime and the disposal of a body could have taken place close to Baby Beach.

While walking along the beach in the a secluded area ... could Robyn Gardner had shared with Gary Giordano that she was getting back together with Richard Forester ... a revelation that caused Gary to react with spontaneous uncontrolled rage.


BUMPED


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 17, 2011, 12:32:52 AM

Gary Giordano

Aruba Suspect Gary Giordano in Court Today in Robyn Gardner Disappearance
ORANJESTAD, Aruba Aug. 15, 2011


<snipped>

Two women were granted restraining orders against Giordano, and court documents obtained by ABC News show allegations of a violent assault by an ex-girlfriend.

"We argued about his past sexual lifestyle as a swinger. He started to choke me with both hands. He then shoved his fingers down my throat. I was struggling and gagging," the girlfriend testified in court documents.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-heads-court-robyn-gardner/story?id=14307322


Joran van der Sloot

Van der Sloot Confesses
DUTCHMAN SAYS HE KILLED PERUVIAN WOMAN IN FIT OF RAGE
updated Jun 8, 2010 7:38 AM CDT


<snipped>

Peruvian police have obtained what Aruba couldn't: a murder confession from Joran Van der Sloot in the killing of a young woman. The Dutchman has admitted killing Stephany Flores, 21, in his Lima hotel room, a Peruvian government official tells MSNBC. Van der Sloot says he broke her neck in a fit of rage when she used his laptop computer without permission and discovered he was involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, according to reports in the Peruvian media.

"I did not want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life," Van der Sloot is quoted as saying.

<snipped>

http://www.newser.com/story/91709/van-der-sloot-confesses.html


Was uncontrolled rage behind the demise of Natalee Holloway, Stephany Flores and Robyn Gardner?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: 4 Donks on August 17, 2011, 08:23:05 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance


Authorities in Aruba are investigating an insurance policy taken out by Gary Giordano before his trip to Aruba as a possible motive in the disappearance of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner.

The investigation into the $1.5 million accidental death policy on Gardner -- which names Giordano as a beneficiary -- has been confirmed exclusively with ABC News by a police source in Aruba, as has the fact that he purchased the pricier one-year policy over the cheaper, more commonly purchased five-year policy.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 17, 2011, 08:54:55 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance


Authorities in Aruba are investigating an insurance policy taken out by Gary Giordano before his trip to Aruba as a possible motive in the disappearance of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner.

The investigation into the $1.5 million accidental death policy on Gardner -- which names Giordano as a beneficiary -- has been confirmed exclusively with ABC News by a police source in Aruba, as has the fact that he purchased the pricier one-year policy over the cheaper, more commonly purchased five-year policy.
 ::snipping2::


it should not be allowed for just anyone to take out an insurance policy on someone else unless they have a connection with said person..such as marriage, family member, etc...
this is just sickening that he planned this whole thing!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 17, 2011, 09:59:55 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance


Authorities in Aruba are investigating an insurance policy taken out by Gary Giordano before his trip to Aruba as a possible motive in the disappearance of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner.

The investigation into the $1.5 million accidental death policy on Gardner -- which names Giordano as a beneficiary -- has been confirmed exclusively with ABC News by a police source in Aruba, as has the fact that he purchased the pricier one-year policy over the cheaper, more commonly purchased five-year policy.
 ::snipping2::


it should not be allowed for just anyone to take out an insurance policy on someone else unless they have a connection with said person..such as marriage, family member, etc...
this is just sickening that he planned this whole thing!

You are so right, Cookie.  I have no experience with travel insurance, but I did spend years working for a top life insurance company.  In the real world of life insurance, where an underwriting process takes place, no such policy would ever be issued.  What would be the basis for the loss to Giordano in the event of Robyn's untimely death?  A person with no relationship could never be named a beneficiary. 

Even if this policy was purchased, I cannot believe it would have paid out. 

The merry-go-round of Aruban investigation always comes around to "people are missing because of an insurance scam", so pardon me while I wait for a little more confirmation.

Prayers for Robyn and her loved ones.  I have more hope than usual, since the FBI is involved.   

Good morning monkeys. ::HelloKitty::

 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 17, 2011, 10:03:30 AM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35549-den-caso-gary-giordano-condoom-y-sanger-riba-piedra-ta-wordo-investiga.html (http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/35549-den-caso-gary-giordano-condoom-y-sanger-riba-piedra-ta-wordo-investiga.html)

in caso gary giordano: condoom y blood on stone is wordo investiga

wednesday, 17 august 2011 09:15

 informacion cu we is hayando is tell cu the investigacion for cu the caso of desaparicion of robyn gardner is canando in good direccion. some day happen owing to ask about the advocate mr michael lopez if the is at height of cualkier condoom cu is wordo investiga. past owing to tell cu the not know nothing. all the time for of fuentenan of police we have informacion cu autoridad of aruba is wardando on result of laboratorium. the resultadonan here is relaciona cu cierto manchanan of blood y also one condoom seems saca for of his package but not using. cu the two piece materialnan here is wardando for see if gary giordano can is culpable in the caso of desaparicion or dead of robyn gardner. police self is very close dunamento of informacion cu can stroba the investigacion. so self the informacion is leak. in the caso here autoridad is feel cu the caso is canando much good the momentonan here. the unique problem is cu have to busca or achieve the curpa of robyn gardner. algo cu also owing to wing atencion was the tuesday night on the first day cu owing to beat alarma of the desaparicion of robyn gardner. here gary giordano will owing to tell at keep of police in one meeting cu for of morning or much more trempan past owing to lose robyn. owing to mustre dikon the not owing to reaccion at once? past owing to change his storia at once bek saying cu is the nightfall ey esey owing to sosode behind nanki. kiermen tog have cierto cosnan pasando cu is treciendo dudanan in gary giordano the momentonan here although the do not culpable still.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 17, 2011, 10:25:24 AM
 ::MonkeyBike::

Thanks Klaas and 4 Donks for the morning news. 

Thoughts and prayers are with Robyn and her loved ones.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 17, 2011, 10:56:50 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance


Authorities in Aruba are investigating an insurance policy taken out by Gary Giordano before his trip to Aruba as a possible motive in the disappearance of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner.

The investigation into the $1.5 million accidental death policy on Gardner -- which names Giordano as a beneficiary -- has been confirmed exclusively with ABC News by a police source in Aruba, as has the fact that he purchased the pricier one-year policy over the cheaper, more commonly purchased five-year policy.
 ::snipping2::


Thanks 4 Donks

It appears motive and premeditation has been established.

Janet


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 11:17:09 AM
Good morning monkeys & guests!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 11:22:00 AM
I'm trying to catch up. Any chance Robyn could have been an escort?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 17, 2011, 11:25:21 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance


Authorities in Aruba are investigating an insurance policy taken out by Gary Giordano before his trip to Aruba as a possible motive in the disappearance of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner.

The investigation into the $1.5 million accidental death policy on Gardner -- which names Giordano as a beneficiary -- has been confirmed exclusively with ABC News by a police source in Aruba, as has the fact that he purchased the pricier one-year policy over the cheaper, more commonly purchased five-year policy.
 ::snipping2::


it should not be allowed for just anyone to take out an insurance policy on someone else unless they have a connection with said person..such as marriage, family member, etc...
this is just sickening that he planned this whole thing!


You would think that the person who the policy is taken out on would have to be present and sign this policy.  I cannot believe this guy actually thought that he would get away with this.  The insurance company may have let him have the policy but I don't think they just hand over 1.5 million dollars without an investigation. 
So disgusting.  This poor woman and her family. 
And he didn't get rid of her in the USA, he took her to Aruba - I wonder what was on his computer, ie. Natalee Holloway disappearance, areas in Aruba, maps, What did he arrange for beforehand? besides the insurance policy - Did he access a boat, or pay some people off?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 11:29:15 AM
Hey Klaas & mods!  ::MonkeyWink::   Could Robyn get her own forum please? I'm just asking bc there's alot of people, documents, social media, etc that's involved in this case & it could all be broken down if Robyn had a forum dedicated to her case. I'm coming across some pretty interesting comments made by people regarding SEVERAL acquaintances surrounding Robyn.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 17, 2011, 12:41:13 PM
not to sound ignorant or anything, but when articles are on here in another language, how do we read them? is there a translation page to go to...? thanks a bunch..am I the only one who questions this?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: festa on August 17, 2011, 12:52:41 PM
not to sound ignorant or anything, but when articles are on here in another language, how do we read them? is there a translation page to go to...? thanks a bunch..am I the only one who questions this?

Thank you, I was thinking the same, but like you, didn't want to appear ignorant -


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 17, 2011, 12:59:34 PM
not to sound ignorant or anything, but when articles are on here in another language, how do we read them? is there a translation page to go to...? thanks a bunch..am I the only one who questions this?

Thank you, I was thinking the same, but like you, didn't want to appear ignorant -

Hey guys.  There are lots of translators.  I use google a lot.  However, this language of Aruba, Papiamento (sp) is not easily translated.  In fact, sometimes it seems more screwed up after translation.
 ::MonkeyConfused::
Maybe Texasmom will swing by and help out.  She's been doing this so long in the Natalee thread, I think she sort of understands this stuff.

There are a couple of others who can help, I'm just not one of them!



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 12:59:50 PM
not to sound ignorant or anything, but when articles are on here in another language, how do we read them? is there a translation page to go to...? thanks a bunch..am I the only one who questions this?

Thank you, I was thinking the same, but like you, didn't want to appear ignorant -

All you have to do is copy the link to the article, go to Google, click on More, then click on Translate, then paste the link and it designers it for you into whatever language is your preference.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Mary on August 17, 2011, 01:01:29 PM
HLN reported that the insurance was not life insurance, but travell insurance and  that he told the aruba police about it.   Don't know how true that is?????           


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 01:01:40 PM
Lol Helen! Jinx! Good minds & all that ...  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 17, 2011, 01:02:25 PM
Translating this material is hard, since there aren't many Papiamento translators online that REALLY work.

Since their language is derived from Spanish, Portuguese, and some other, translators only translate the words they recognize.

Since I know Spanish and Portuguese, I can make sense out of what the newspaper articles say, but cannot translate word for word.

Anyway, how did he get the insurance policy without the policy holder being present?

Maybe he told the insurance salesman that she was his common-law wife, or live in girlfriend.

I agree, the insurance agency could not hand over the $1.5 mills without a proper investigation, and I cannot believe he thought he could get away with it.

I'm sure he was thinking that, like Natalee's body, her body would not be recovered, thus not showing that he murdered her.

From that article, it said that blood was found on a rock by the beach. Was there mention of a condom? Or is that one of my bad translations?



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 01:05:44 PM
not to sound ignorant or anything, but when articles are on here in another language, how do we read them? is there a translation page to go to...? thanks a bunch..am I the only one who questions this?

Thank you, I was thinking the same, but like you, didn't want to appear ignorant -

All you have to do is copy the link to the article, go to Google, click on More, then click on Translate, then paste the link and it designers it for you into whatever language is your preference.

What the heck ... TRANSLATES! Lol!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 01:06:32 PM
HLN reported that the insurance was not life insurance, but travell insurance and  that he told the aruba police about it.   Don't know how true that is?????           


Travel insurance with Robyn's mother as the beneficiary was reported early on.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 17, 2011, 01:07:51 PM
When I find articles written in Spanish (for Peru--covering news about Joran) or in Dutch, I use the Google Translate site -- http://translate.google.com/#  .  It gives a fairly good translation.  Just copy the text from the original article and paste it into the translator area of the site.  Texasmom is very good with translating articles/information from Aruba.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 17, 2011, 01:09:27 PM
Okay, if the policy is not life insurance but travel insurance, then it looks better for him.

Though, he kept inviting women to Aruba, so I wonder if he had planned accidental drowning trips before.

He being the beneficiary instead of her family or (alleged) boyfriend back home seems a little odd.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 01:10:36 PM
There is no actual Papiamento translator online that I know of.

This one is Papiamentu, and sometimes it helps but it's still hard to decipher some things no matter how hard I try...

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyWaa::

This is the Papiamentu translator that I use.

http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl/index



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 17, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
not to sound ignorant or anything, but when articles are on here in another language, how do we read them? is there a translation page to go to...? thanks a bunch..am I the only one who questions this?

Thank you, I was thinking the same, but like you, didn't want to appear ignorant -

All you have to do is copy the link to the article, go to Google, click on More, then click on Translate, then paste the link and it designers it for you into whatever language is your preference.

What the heck ... TRANSLATES! Lol!

Papiamento is not a popular language, so the articles are not translating correctly. :(



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 17, 2011, 01:15:10 PM
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/17/aruban-authorities-probe-insurance-policy-in-missing-woman-case/

Aruban authorities probe insurance policy in missing woman case
August 17th, 2011
12:33 PM ET

 ::snipping2::

Giordano himself told authorities about the travel insurance, Stein said, and the FBI brought copies of the policy to Aruba this week. Investigators were still going through the documents, and Stein could not confirm the amount of the coverage or who the beneficiary was.

Local reports - citing sources close to the investigation - have said that a bloody hand print was found on stones behind the Nanki Country Club, at the same spot where the pair was said to be snorkeling.

"The blood discovery is interesting," Stein said, but he did not confirm or deny the details in the local reports. He gave the same response when asked about reports that an unused condom was also found at the location

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 17, 2011, 01:17:49 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/863-possible-evidence-in-missing-womans-case-condom-and-blood-on-a-stone.html


A few days ago, reporters asked suspect Gary Giordano’s attorney Michael Lopez if he knew of a condom to be among the items being tested in the case against his client. Lopez said he was not aware of this.
In the meantime police sources say that Aruban authorities are waiting for the lab results on traces of blood that were found and a condom that was taken out of the wrapper, but was not used. These two “items”, if after tests are found to be evidence in this case, might determine if Gary Giordano is found guilty of the disappearance or death of Robyn Gardner. The police are very cautious and not giving information on the investigation as to avoid any disturbance. Even so, information is leaking. The main challenge in this case is that no body has been found yet.
Edit to change red color to green.

Something that also attracted attention is that Tuesday afternoon, when Giordano reported Gardner missing and the search for her started, Gary Giordano might have said at the police station in a meeting that he had lost Gardner from the morning, or much earlier. He changed his story immediately when he was asked why he had not reacted then. Correcting himself he said that it had happened that afternoon behind Nanki. There might still be certain details that bring on doubt about Gary Giordano, although he can not be considered guilty of any crime as yet.
http://arubaherald.com/911/863-possible-evidence-in-missing-womans-case-condom-and-blood-on-a-stone.html



isolated area, condom, blood, neither he nor Robyn went snorkeling with her hair weave and his toupee imo


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 17, 2011, 01:23:13 PM
getting travel insurance for a trip makes a lot more sense than life insurance..we have purchase travel insurance a lot..just in case we have to cancel out etc...that type of insurance? not familiar with trip insurance where there is a beneficiary though...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 17, 2011, 01:24:21 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/863-possible-evidence-in-missing-womans-case-condom-and-blood-on-a-stone.html


A few days ago, reporters asked suspect Gary Giordano’s attorney Michael Lopez if he knew of a condom to be among the items being tested in the case against his client. Lopez said he was not aware of this.
In the meantime police sources say that Aruban authorities are waiting for the lab results on traces of blood that were found and a condom that was taken out of the wrapper, but was not used. These two “items”, if after tests are found to be evidence in this case, might determine if Gary Giordano is found guilty of the disappearance or death of Robyn Gardner. The police are very cautious and not giving information on the investigation as to avoid any disturbance. Even so, information is leaking. The main challenge in this case is that no body has been found yet.
Edit to change color red to green, with red/maroon reserved for admin/mod use.

Something that also attracted attention is that Tuesday afternoon, when Giordano reported Gardner missing and the search for her started, Gary Giordano might have said at the police station in a meeting that he had lost Gardner from the morning, or much earlier. He changed his story immediately when he was asked why he had not reacted then. Correcting himself he said that it had happened that afternoon behind Nanki. There might still be certain details that bring on doubt about Gary Giordano, although he can not be considered guilty of any crime as yet.
http://arubaherald.com/911/863-possible-evidence-in-missing-womans-case-condom-and-blood-on-a-stone.html



isolated area, condom, blood, neither he nor Robyn went snorkeling with her hair weave and his toupee imo


agree.....no snorkeling for either of them..


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 17, 2011, 01:37:40 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027015/Robyn-Gardner-case-Gary-Giordano-took-1-5m-insurance-policy.html

Revealed: Aruba suspect took out $1.5m accidental death policy on Maryland woman days before she disappeared
By John Stevens
Last updated at 4:09 PM on 17th August 2011

A U.S. tourist detained in Aruba after the suspected death of his travel companion took out a $1.5 million accidental death policy on the Maryland woman days before they travelled to the island, it has been revealed.

 ::snipping2::

Video shows the pair at the Rum Beef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island where Ms Gardner went missing.
Restaurant staff have told investigators that the woman seemed woozy while they ate.

Surveillance footage also shows Giordano in his rental car at the back of the restaurant, but the car had tinted windows so no one else in the vehicle can be seen.

Police said that they found blood on a rock behind the dive shop at the restaurant.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027015/Robyn-Gardner-case-Gary-Giordano-took-1-5m-insurance-policy.html#ixzz1VJCBTCHu


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 17, 2011, 01:43:57 PM
(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/buskeda.jpg)
photo credit: diario newspaper Aruba
The water doesn't look significant enough if Robyn went in it to not have
her body wash back on shore by now.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: AZSunny on August 17, 2011, 01:44:36 PM
Translating this material is hard, since there aren't many Papiamento translators online that REALLY work.

Since their language is derived from Spanish, Portuguese, and some other, translators only translate the words they recognize.

Since I know Spanish and Portuguese, I can make sense out of what the newspaper articles say, but cannot translate word for word.

Anyway, how did he get the insurance policy without the policy holder being present?

Maybe he told the insurance salesman that she was his common-law wife, or live in girlfriend.

I agree, the insurance agency could not hand over the $1.5 mills without a proper investigation, and I cannot believe he thought he could get away with it.

I'm sure he was thinking that, like Natalee's body, her body would not be recovered, thus not showing that he murdered her.

From that article, it said that blood was found on a rock by the beach. Was there mention of a condom? Or is that one of my bad translations?



You can buy travelers insurance through your travel agent, or even on line without talking to anyone.    It is not necessarily just life type insurance, but covers, medical evacuation, hospitalization,  trip cancellations, lost luggage, and other things. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 17, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
Thanks, everyone for all the great info.

Regarding the insurance, my understanding of travel insurance is to cover the cost of the trip, tickets, hotel, etc., in the event of trip cancellation, hurricane, etc.  As well, special medical insurance can be purchased to cover medical bills, evacuation or transport home for care, or in the event of death, transport of your body home. 

AD&D (Accidental Death and Dismemberment can also be purchased, but the beneficiary could never be someone who has no relationship.  Usually a large death benefit amount must be justified.  As in the loss of decedent's earnings calculated over their estimated life expectancy, or in the loss of stay at home mom, the cost for husband to hire nannies and help to raise surviving children, etc.

makes more sense it was just travel insurance.  Not sure why they would state 1.5 million value of policy.  That seems like misinfo, IMO.  As well, the source stated was "Aruban Police source". 





 



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: AZSunny on August 17, 2011, 01:50:23 PM
getting travel insurance for a trip makes a lot more sense than life insurance..we have purchase travel insurance a lot..just in case we have to cancel out etc...that type of insurance? not familiar with trip insurance where there is a beneficiary though...

I agree.  Though I have previously purchases travel insurance many times for both my husband and I, I don't remember there being a place to determine the beneficiary. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 01:51:26 PM
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44174039/ns/today-today_news/t/prosecutors-probe-aruba-suspects-insurance/

Good video and article at the link...also interview with Taco Stein, cannot confirm or deny bloody hand print on rock among other things.

He can confirm investigating the insurance policy.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 17, 2011, 01:55:40 PM
Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


Authorities in Aruba are investigating an insurance policy taken out by Gary Giordano before his trip to Aruba as a possible motive in the disappearance of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner.

The investigation into the $1.5 million accidental death policy on Gardner -- which names Giordano as a beneficiary -- has been confirmed exclusively with ABC News by a police source in Aruba, as has the fact that he purchased the pricier one-year policy over the cheaper, more commonly purchased five-year policy.

<snipped>

Authorities said that that they found blood on a rock behind the dive shop at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill, which is the last place the two were seen together.

Investigators also told ABC News of Giordano's other erratic behavior at the time of the disappearance -- including that he left the search early to get some sleep at his hotel.

Three days after the search for Gardner began, Giordano got within feet of leaving the country before he was stopped at Aruba's airport, after passing through security and U.S. customs -- where he told customs he had to change flights because of weather, and inexplicably told officials that his travel companion was "taking another flight." When arrested, authorities say Giordano was drenched in sweat.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 17, 2011, 02:20:06 PM
Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


<snipped>

Investigators also told ABC News of Giordano's other erratic behavior at the time of the disappearance -- including that he left the search early to get some sleep at his hotel.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Could it be the Robyn Gardner's body was inside the trunk of the rental vehicle at this point in time?

Was the rental vehicle confiscated and forensically investigated?

Janet


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: cookie on August 17, 2011, 02:22:46 PM
Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


<snipped>

Investigators also told ABC News of Giordano's other erratic behavior at the time of the disappearance -- including that he left the search early to get some sleep at his hotel.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Could it be the Robyn Gardner's body was inside the trunk of the rental vehicle at this point in time?

Was the rental vehicle confiscated and forensically investigated?

Janet

from what I can remember, the vehicle had already been cleaned and I thought that on the NG show they said that it had not be confiscated at the time of the program...if I recall correctly..


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 17, 2011, 02:43:45 PM
There is no actual Papiamento translator online that I know of.

This one is Papiamentu, and sometimes it helps but it's still hard to decipher some things no matter how hard I try...

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyWaa::

This is the Papiamentu translator that I use.

http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl/index



http://www.papiamentu.net/translation.php


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 17, 2011, 02:46:11 PM
Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


<snipped>

Investigators also told ABC News of Giordano's other erratic behavior at the time of the disappearance -- including that he left the search early to get some sleep at his hotel.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496


Could it be that Robyn Gardner's body was inside the trunk of the rental vehicle at this point in time?

Was the rental vehicle confiscated and forensically investigated?

Janet

from what I can remember, the vehicle had already been cleaned and I thought that on the NG show they said that it had not be confiscated at the time of the program...if I recall correctly..

Thanks cookie.

Janet


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 03:01:45 PM
There is no actual Papiamento translator online that I know of.

This one is Papiamentu, and sometimes it helps but it's still hard to decipher some things no matter how hard I try...

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyWaa::

This is the Papiamentu translator that I use.

http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl/index



http://www.papiamentu.net/translation.php

I get this message, Papiamentu is currently under construction and is schedule to go life soon.  Please try again soon.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 17, 2011, 03:26:04 PM
There is no actual Papiamento translator online that I know of.

This one is Papiamentu, and sometimes it helps but it's still hard to decipher some things no matter how hard I try...

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyWaa::

This is the Papiamentu translator that I use.

http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl/index



http://www.papiamentu.net/translation.php

I get this message, Papiamentu is currently under construction and is schedule to go life soon.  Please try again soon.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
I click ok then paste it in .. It always does that


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 03:37:05 PM
There is no actual Papiamento translator online that I know of.

This one is Papiamentu, and sometimes it helps but it's still hard to decipher some things no matter how hard I try...

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyWaa::

This is the Papiamentu translator that I use.

http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl/index



http://www.papiamentu.net/translation.php

I get this message, Papiamentu is currently under construction and is schedule to go life soon.  Please try again soon.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
I click ok then paste it in .. It always does that

Thanks so much you guys!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
Collection of pics, some of which have already been posted...

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpps/news/national/giordano-no-longer-cooperating-with-police-say-aruban-authorities-investigating-robyn-gardner-case-081211_14541467

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/09/205905_231123613598246_230993886944552_683834_7127895_n_20110809135741_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/09/174975_230994230277851_230993886944552_683331_1824715_o_20110809135744_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/08/RobynGardner3_20110808203130_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/08/RobynGardner_20110808203132_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/08/RobynGardner2_20110808203133_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/09/Robyn_Gardner_4_20110809135742_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/09/Robyn_Gardner_5_20110809135742_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/09/Robyn_Gardner_3_20110809135742_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/09/Robyn_Gardner_1_20110809135757_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/09/Robyn_Gardner_2_20110809135742_320_240.JPG)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 17, 2011, 03:53:33 PM
(http://www.wtop.com/emedia/wtop/22/2229/222996.jpg)

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/186029_1264811266_2554453_n.jpg)
Hat tip to CherokeeKid


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 04:36:05 PM
Saw this link posted on one of Robyn's Missing FB sites:

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/category,COI,,,ANT,4a4214882d,0.html

It's a pretty good read IMO.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: AZSunny on August 17, 2011, 04:58:51 PM
Saw this link posted on one of Robyn's Missing FB sites:

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/category,COI,,,ANT,4a4214882d,0.html

It's a pretty good read IMO.

I think she is to old to consider human trafficing.  JMO


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 17, 2011, 05:06:10 PM
IMO the type of human trafficking is more along the lines of women forced into prostitution in Aruba that came from Columbia or another South American country.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 05:22:12 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

 ::snipping2::

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba

Robyn,

You taught me how to persevere and to never give up when the going gets tough. I pray that you don't give up now and understand that we're doing everything within our power to bring you home. As you taught me, I will never give up searching for you and praying for your safe return. I want to show and tell the world about how special of a person you are on the inside and outside. Our lights are on, please follow them home.

Love,
Your little "big" brother


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 06:36:21 PM
Found the following records at this link:

http://webofdeception.com/robyngardner.html


 
        
     



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Review the criminal record of Gary Vincent Giordano who was the last person with Robyn Gardner who is missing in Aruba that includes theft convictions and a restraining order: "SHALL NOT ABUSE, SHALL NOT CONTACT, SHALL NOT ENTER RESIDENCE, SHALL STAY AWAY FROM TEMPORARY RESIDENCE, SHALL STAY AWAY FROM EMPLOYMENT"

 

DISTRICT COURT OF MARYLAND
Case Information
Court System: DISTRICT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY - CIVIL System
Case Number:0601SP006552010 Case Status:CLOSED
Case Type:PEACE ORDER Order Valid Thru:08/16/2010
Filing Date:02/04/2010
Defendant Name: GIORDANO, GARY
City:GAITHERSBURG State:MD DOB:05/01/1961
Plaintiff Name: PORTNEY, VALERIE
Hearing Date:   02/04/2010 Hearing Time:10:7 AM Room:X3
Hearing Location:   191 EAST JEFFERSON ST, ROCKVILLE,MD 20850
Served Date:   02/08/2010
Hearing Type:   TEMPORARY
Result:   COURT ORDERS:
SHALL NOT ABUSE
SHALL NOT CONTACT
SHALL NOT ENTER RESIDENCE
SHALL STAY AWAY FROM TEMPORARY RESIDENCE
SHALL STAY AWAY FROM EMPLOYMENT
Hearing Date:   02/16/2010 Hearing Time:8:30 AM Room:X3
Hearing Location:   191 EAST JEFFERSON ST,ROCKVILLE,MD 20850
Hearing Type:   FINAL
Result:   COURT ORDERS:
SHALL NOT ABUSE
SHALL NOT CONTACT
SHALL NOT ENTER RESIDENCE
SHALL STAY AWAY FROM EMPLOYMENT
Hearing Date:   10/12/2010Hearing Time:1:30 PMRoom:X6
Hearing Location:   191 EAST JEFFERSON ST,ROCKVILLE,MD 20850
 

 

 

 

 

DISTRICT COURT OF MARYLAND
Case Information

Court System:   DISTRICT COURT FOR FREDERICK COUNTY - CRIMINAL SYSTEM
Case Number:   1U00006049Tracking No:941001154962
Case Type:   CRIMINAL
District Code:   11Location Code:01
Document Type:   SUMMONS Issued Date:03/11/1996
Case Status:   APPEAL Case Disposition:TRIAL
Defendant Information

Defendant Name:   GIORDANO, GARY VINCENT
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   M Height:601 Weight:200 DOB:05/01/1961
Address:   5921 WILLOW KNOLL DRIVE
City:   ROCKVILLE State:MD Zip Code:20855
Charge and Disposition Information

(Each Charge is listed separately. The disposition is listed below the Charge)
Charge No:   001Description:THEFT:LESS $300 VALUE
Statute:   27.342Description:THEFT:LESS $300 VALUE
Amended Date:   CJIS Code:3 2399MO/PLL:Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From:      To:      Victim Age:   
Disposition

Plea:   GUILTY
Disposition:   GUILTYDisposition Date:07/11/1996
Fine:$145.00Court Costs:$25.00CICF:$30.00
Amt Suspended:   Fine:$0.00Court Costs:$0.00CICF:$0.00
PBJ EndDate:   Probation End Date:07/11/1998Restitution Amount:$0.00
Jail Term:   Yrs:00Mos:00Days:360
Suspended Term:   Yrs:00Mos:00Days:354
Credit Time Served:   
Related Person Information

(Each Person related to the case other than the Defendant is shown)
Name:LILLY, DEMETRIA D
Connection:COMPLAINANT
Name:LEVENTHAL, PHILLIP
Connection:PRIVATE ATTORNEY FOR DEFENSE
Address:   23909 HAWKINS CREAMERY COURT
City:   GAITHERSBURGState:MDZip Code:20882 - 0000
 

 

 

 

 

DISTRICT COURT OF MARYLAND
Case Information

Court System:   DISTRICT COURT FOR FREDERICK COUNTY - CRIMINAL SYSTEM
Case Number:   5U00033843Tracking No:031001116204
Case Type:   CRIMINAL
District Code:   11Location Code:01
Document Type:   SUMMONSIssued Date:06/06/2003
Case Status:   CLOSEDCase Disposition:TRIAL
Defendant Information

Defendant Name:   GIORDANO, GARY VINCENT
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   MHeight:600Weight:210DOB:05/01/1962
Address:   9734 ROYAL CREST CIRCLE
City:   URBANAState:MDZip Code:21704 - 0000
Charge and Disposition Information

(Each Charge is listed separately. The disposition is listed below the Charge)
Charge No:   001Description:THEFT:LESS $500 VALUE
Statute:   CR.7.104Description:THEFT:LESS $500 VALUE
Amended Date:   08/06/2003CJIS Code:3 5010MO/PLL:Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From:   04/25/2003   To:   04/25/2003   Victim Age:   
Disposition

Plea:   GUILTY
Disposition:   GUILTYDisposition Date:10/07/2003
Fine:$0.00Court Costs:$20.00CICF:$35.00
Amt Suspended:   Fine:$0.00Court Costs:$0.00CICF:$0.00
PBJ EndDate:   Probation End Date:10/07/2004Restitution Amount:$0.00
Jail Term:   Yrs:01Mos:00Days:000
Suspended Term:   Yrs:01Mos:00Days:000
Credit Time Served:   
Related Person Information

(Each Person related to the case other than the Defendant is shown)
Name:GRAHAM, JEFF
Connection:COMPLAINANT
Name:LIPSCOMB, CHARLES
Connection:PRIVATE ATTORNEY FOR DEFENSE
Address:   14750 MAIN ST
City:   UPPER MARLBOROState:MDZip Code:20772 - 0000
 

 

 

 

 

 

DISTRICT COURT OF MARYLAND
Case Information

Court System:   DISTRICT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY - CRIMINAL SYSTEM
Case Number:   2D00055946Tracking No:942003815130
Case Type:   CRIMINAL
District Code:   06Location Code:01
Document Type:   CITATIONIssued Date:10/12/1997
Case Status:   CLOSEDCase Disposition:TRIAL
Defendant Information

Defendant Name:   GIORDANO, GARY VINCENT
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   MHeight:601Weight:200DOB:05/01/1961
Address:   5921 WILLOW KNOLL DRIVE
City:   ROCKVILLEState:MDZip Code:20855 - 0000
Charge and Disposition Information

(Each Charge is listed separately. The disposition is listed below the Charge)
Charge No:   001Description:THEFT:LESS $300 VALUE
Statute:   27.342Description:THEFT:LESS $300 VALUE
Amended Date:   CJIS Code:3 2399MO/PLL:Probable Cause:
Incident Date From:      To:      Victim Age:   
Disposition

Plea:   OTHER PLEA
Disposition:   NOLLE PROSEQUIDisposition Date:12/09/1997
Fine:$0.00Court Costs:$0.00CICF:$0.00
Amt Suspended:   Fine:$0.00Court Costs:$0.00CICF:$0.00
PBJ EndDate:   Probation End Date:Restitution Amount:$0.00
Jail Term:   Yrs:Mos:Days:
Suspended Term:   Yrs:Mos:Days:
Credit Time Served:   
Related Person Information

(Each Person related to the case other than the Defendant is shown)
Name:CAMMARATA, W
Connection:COMPLAINANT/POLICE OFFICER
Agency Code:   MCPAgency Sub-Code:G15Officer ID:1081
 

 

 

 

 

DISTRICT COURT OF MARYLAND
Case Information

Court System:   DISTRICT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY - CIVIL SYSTEM
Case Number:   060100115212009Claim Type:CONTRACT
District/Location Codes:   06 / 01Filing Date:05/06/2009Case Status:CLOSED
Complaint, Judgment, and Related Persons Information

(Each Complaint, Hearing, Judgment is listed separately, along with each Related Person)
Complaint Information

Complaint No:   001(GIORDANO, GARY) Vs:(COSTCO HEADQUARTERS )
Type:   REGULAR CLAIM
Complaint Status:   JUDGMENT IN FAVOR OF DEFENDANT ENTERED
Status Date:   10/28/2009Filing Date:05/06/2009Amount$5000Last Activity Date:10/28/2009
Judgment Information

Judgment Type:   TRIAL JUDGMENT ENTEREDJudgment Date:10/21/2009
Judgment Amount:   $0.00Judgment Interest:$0.00Costs:$0.00Other Amounts:$0.00
Attorney Fees:   $0.00Jointly and Severally:In Favor of Defendant:X
Possession Of Property Claimed valued At:   $0.00Is Awarded To The:Together With Damages Of:$0.00
Value Of Property Sued For:   $0.00Plus Damages Of:$0.00Is Awarded To The:Dismissed With Prejudice:
Replevin/Detinue Amount:   $0.00
Related Person Information

Name:   TILLER, WILLIAM B ESQ
Connection to Complaint:   ATTORNEY FOR DEFENDANT
Address:   P. O. BOX 2453
City:   RICHMONDState:VAZip Code:23218
Attorney's Firm:TILLER LAW GROUP
Name:   COSTCO HEADQUARTERS
Connection to Complaint:   DEFENDANT
Address:   SERVE RA: CORPORATION TRUST INC.
Address:   300 E. LOMBARD STREET
City:   BALTIMOREState:MDZip Code:21202
Name:   GIORDANO, GARY
Connection to Complaint:   PLAINTIFF
Address:   12413 PUEBLO ROAD
City:   GAITHERSBURGState:MDZip Code:20878
Name:   ELUTRIO, JOE
Connection to Complaint:   WITNESS FOR DEFENDANT
Address:   COSTCO WHOLESALE COPR #213
Address:   12413 PUEBLO ROAD
City:   GAITHERSBURGState:MDZip Code:20878
Name:   CJIS-CENTRAL REPOSITORY
Connection to Complaint:   WITNESS FOR DEFENDANT
Address:   6776 REISTERSTOWN ROAD
Address:   SUITE 102
City:   BALTIMOREState:MDZip Code:21215
Name:   CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS
Connection to Complaint:   WITNESS FOR DEFENDANT
Address:   MARYLAND MVA
Address:   6601 RITCHIE HGWY, N.E.
City:   GLEN BURNIEState:MDZip Code:21062
Name:   ARNOLD, CURTIS
Connection to Complaint:   WITNESS FOR DEFENDANT
Address:   COSTCO WHOLESALE CORP., STORE #213
Address:   12413 PUEBLE ROAD
City:   GAITHERSBURGState:MDZip Code:20878
Name:   AGYEI, ALEX
Connection to Complaint:   WITNESS FOR DEFENDANT
Address:   COSTCO WHOLESALE CORP
Address:   880 RUSSELL AVE
City:   GAITHERSBURGState:MDZip Code:20879
Name:   SOLIMAN, MAGDY
Connection to Complaint:   WITNESS FOR DEFENDANT
Address:   COSTCO WHOLESALE CORP
Address:   880 RUSSELL AVE
City:   GAITHERSBURGState:MDZip Code:20879
Name:   TORRES, GRIMILDA
Connection to Complaint:   WITNESS FOR DEFENDANT
Address:   COSTCO WHOLESALE CORP
Address:   880 RUSSELL AVE
City:   GAITHERSBURGState:MDZip Code:20879
Case History Information

(Each Event listed for the case is listed below in chronological order)
Type:   INITIAL CASE FILINGComplaint No.:
Date:   05/06/2009Comment:INITIAL AFFIDAVIT CASE FILING
Type:   TRIALComplaint No.:
Date:   05/11/2009Comment:TRIAL SET FOR: 07292009;TIME: 0800A;LOC:01;ROOM:202
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   05/11/2009Comment:NOTICE OF INITIAL TRIAL (PLN)-D1
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   05/18/2009Comment:NOTICE OF OUTCOME OF ORIGINAL SERVICE (PLN)-A1
Type:   SUMMONS RENEWAL FILEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   05/19/2009Comment:SUMMONS RENEWAL ;DEF;REQ BY PLN
Type:   COMMENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   06/12/2009Comment:I HAVE FORWARDED TO JUDGES CHAMBERS TO DECIDE ABOUT
Type:   COMMENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   06/12/2009Comment:SV CT STATES NOT LISTED ON OUR RECORDS OR ON THE
Type:   COMMENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   06/12/2009Comment:RECORDS FOR THE STATE OF MD
Type:   COMMENTComplaint No.:
Date:   06/12/2009Comment:PLEASE GIVE FILE TO JF FOR REISSUE&AMEND.PPRS-PULLPILE
Type:   COST/SERVICE DELETEComplaint No.:001
Date:   06/12/2009Comment:SERVICE DELETED FOR REGL - SV ON 20090517
Type:   SERVICEComplaint No.:001
Date:   06/12/2009Comment:REGL;05062009;DEF;NE-NON-EST ;
Type:   NOT SERVED REASON COMMENTSComplaint No.:001
Date:   06/12/2009Comment:PER JUDGE 9S7 DEFENDANT IS NOT SERVED
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   06/12/2009Comment:NOTICE OF OUTCOME OF ORIGINAL SERVICE (PLN)-A1
Type:   TRIAL/HEARING POSTPONEMENTComplaint No.:
Date:   07/02/2009Comment:TRIL;07292009;0800A;01;SRNW;BY CLK;PREV SET ON 05112009
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   07/02/2009Comment:NOTICE OF TRIAL POSTPONEMENT (PLN)-C1
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   07/02/2009Comment:NOTICE OF SUMMONS RENEWAL (PLN)-P1
Type:   SERVICEComplaint No.:001
Date:   07/06/2009Comment:SRNW;05192009;DEF;SV-SERVED ;
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   07/10/2009Comment:NOTICE OF OUTCOME OF SPECIFIC SERVICE - SRNW(PLN)-A2
Type:   COMMENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   07/21/2009Comment:ATD; COPY OF CERT OF LICENSE W/CERT OF SVC TO PLN
Type:   INTENTION TO DEFEND FILEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   07/21/2009Comment:INTENTION TO DEFEND FILED /REASON FOR DEFENSE FOLLOWS
Type:   INTENTION TO DEFEND REASONComplaint No.:001
Date:   07/21/2009Comment:SEE CERT OF SVC FILED BY THE ATTY
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   07/24/2009Comment:NOTICE OF FILING OF INTENTION TO DEFEND (PLN)-B1
Type:   SUBPOENA ISSUEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/14/2009Comment:SUBPOENA ISSUANCE ;WID;REQ BY ATD
Type:   SUBPOENA ISSUEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/14/2009Comment:SUBPOENA ISSUANCE ;WID;REQ BY ATD
Type:   SUBPOENA ISSUEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/14/2009Comment:SUBPOENA ISSUANCE ;WID;REQ BY ATD
Type:   SERVICEComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/18/2009Comment:SUBP;09142009;WID;SV-SERVED ;001
Type:   SUBPOENA ISSUEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/18/2009Comment:SUBPOENA ISSUANCE ;WID;REQ BY ATD
Type:   SERVICEComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/18/2009Comment:SUBP;09182009;WID;SV-SERVED ;002
Type:   SERVICEComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/18/2009Comment:SUBP;09142009;WID;SV-SERVED ;003
Type:   SERVICEComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/21/2009Comment:SUBP;09142009;WID;SV-SERVED ;004
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   09/28/2009Comment:NOTICE OF OUTCOME OF SPECIFIC SERVICE - SUBP(ATD)-A2
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   10/06/2009Comment:NOTICE OF OUTCOME OF SPECIFIC SERVICE - SUBP(ATD)-A2
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   10/07/2009Comment:NOTICE OF OUTCOME OF SPECIFIC SERVICE - SUBP(ATD)-A2
Type:   NOTICE SENTComplaint No.:001
Date:   10/07/2009Comment:NOTICE OF OUTCOME OF SPECIFIC SERVICE - SUBP(ATD)-A2
Type:   SUBPOENA ISSUEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   10/12/2009Comment:SUBPOENA ISSUANCE ;WID;REQ BY ATD
Type:   SUBPOENA ISSUEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   10/12/2009Comment:SUBPOENA ISSUANCE ;WID;REQ BY ATD
Type:   SUBPOENA ISSUEDComplaint No.:001
Date:   10/12/2009Comment:SUBPOENA ISSUANCE ;WID;REQ BY ATD
Type:   SERVICEComplaint No.:001
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Type:   SERVICEComplaint No.:001
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 17, 2011, 06:41:27 PM
Re my last post, I thought this bit of info was interesting...considering the name Gary Vincent Giordano is about as Italian a name a person can get:

Quote
Defendant Name:   GIORDANO, GARY VINCENT
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
End Quote

So now I have to ask, is this his birth name or a changed name / alias?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 17, 2011, 07:48:02 PM
ROBYN LYNN GARDNER

August 2, 2011
Aruba

Robyn Lynn Gardner was last seen on August 2, 2011, in the Baby Beach, Sint Nicolaas area of Aruba, which is on the southeastern tip of the Caribbean Island. She and a travel companion had arrived in Aruba on July 31, 2011, from Maryland. Gardner may have gone snorkeling on August 2nd, but has not been seen since that date.



http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap?utm_campaign=email-Immediate&utm_content=21694


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 17, 2011, 08:47:51 PM
something hinky is going on............I have a hunch that something about this case is going to expose Natalee. We all know in the first few weeks of Natalee's disappearance where a condom & panties were found, then the search by Nanki Club......keep our fingers crossed that Aruba is going to finally pull a rabbit out of a hat and lo & behold they will solve the Natalee case and send her home!

a bloody hand print was found on stones behind the Nanki Country Club, at the same spot where the pair was said to be snorkeling.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/17/aruba.missing.woman/index.html

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Debzie_/misc2/nanki2.jpg)
Nanki Country Club

from 2007
Natalee Holloway lo ta dera tras di Nanki club. 
http://www.awemainta.com/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 17, 2011, 08:49:13 PM
Has anyone found any connections with this Gary Girodano and Aruba????



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: AZSunny on August 17, 2011, 09:00:52 PM
something hinky is going on............I have a hunch that something about this case is going to expose Natalee. We all know in the first few weeks of Natalee's disappearance where a condom & panties were found, then the search by Nanki Club......keep our fingers crossed that Aruba is going to finally pull a rabbit out of a hat and lo & behold they will solve the Natalee case and send her home!

a bloody hand print was found on stones behind the Nanki Country Club, at the same spot where the pair was said to be snorkeling.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/17/aruba.missing.woman/index.html

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b125/Debzie_/misc2/nanki2.jpg)
Nanki Country Club

from 2007
Natalee Holloway lo ta dera tras di Nanki club. 
http://www.awemainta.com/

I have the same thoughts about Natalee.  Just what if?   
They brought up on Nancy Grace this guys fixation with blonds, and suggested it may be a Natalee  Holloway fixation.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: seahorse on August 17, 2011, 09:02:54 PM
Mr. Cool  ::MonkeyCool::

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Class of 1979

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 09:06:01 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20520711,00.html

Aruba Mystery: What Happened to Missing Robyn Gardner?

By Nicole Weisensee Egan and Jeff Truesdell

Wednesday August 17, 2011 07:30 PM EDT

Robyn Gardner was supposed to be in Orlando with her parents. At least that's what she told her boyfriend, Richard Forester.

Then she told Forester she actually had gone to Aruba on a surprise family trip.

In fact, the 35-year-old beautiful, blond Maryland woman with a radiant smile had traveled to the Caribbean with a man named Gary Giordano, a 50-year-old businessman also from Maryland with a disturbing past.

Now, Gardner is missing and presumed dead, Giordano is being detained, and questions are mounting about what happened during their island stay.

Graphic Photos

The mystery has only deepened as authorities in Aruba begin releasing details from the investigation.

The most recent shocker was the discovery of graphic photographs on Giordano's digital camera. The photos show Gardner in sexual positions with "parts of" Giordano, according to Stein. The images, a source tells PEOPLE are "beyond pornographic."

No other information about the photos has been revealed, and it's still not known exactly when the pictures were taken and whether Gardner had engaged in the acts willingly.

It's the latest surprise in a case that had already gained notoriety because of its parallels to the unsolved disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 18, from Aruba in 2005. The suspect in that case, Joran van der Sloot, is being tried this fall in Peru for the murder of another woman. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center has opened a tip line for the Gardner case.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 09:08:57 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20520711,00.html

 ::snipping2::

"He's a mean bastard," says Taco Stein, solicitor general in Aruba. "The way he treats women … it's all geared toward himself."


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 17, 2011, 09:12:03 PM
Has anyone found any connections with this Gary Girodano and Aruba????



I agree with you Kermit.  Very Hinky. 

I've been wondering if Gary has traveled to Aruba before.  If he has a connection with Aruba, I hope the FBI will uncover it.

It feels like groundhog day.  I just heard on NG, that the police had impounded the rental car, but released it back to the rental company.  It has since been cleaned and rented out at least two times.

They have not requested cadaver dogs from NL, but are planning a big search later this week at a lighthouse and rocky cliff area at Seroe Colorado. 

 ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: seahorse on August 17, 2011, 09:41:47 PM
http://www.divorce-records.net/Maryland/

A few CG records, can not retrieve the contents because $$ ~ A cool little site for the curious :)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 09:42:31 PM
http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=21565FL&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

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Author's Biography

Erik van Ommeren is Director of Innovation, Sogeti USA LLC. He is responsible for VINT (Vision – Inspiration - Navigation – Trends), the international research institute of Sogeti, in the USA. The VINT Research institute has published and organized events around topics such as Open Innovation/Crowdsourcing, new media developments, the business value of Information Technology and IT governance. The continuing theme of VINT research is how new technology is actually used and the resulting effects on society.
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http://nl.linkedin.com/pub/erik-van-ommeren/3/460/b78

I'm not sure if it's connected or not so I'm hesitant to post any more. 

Familiar last name from Aruba.



I haven't found a definite link, but considering this is an international company; the link could possibly be here imo.

The company was listed as an "interested other party" in the Giordano divorce case documents.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 09:43:16 PM
http://www.divorce-records.net/Maryland/

A few CG records, can not retrieve the contents because $$ ~ A cool little site for the curious :)

The records are free at the link in the top of my last post.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: seahorse on August 17, 2011, 09:56:26 PM
http://www.divorce-records.net/Maryland/

A few CG records, can not retrieve the contents because $$ ~ A cool little site for the curious :)

The records are free at the link in the top of my last post.   ::MonkeyWink::

Cool.  Thank-you Texas Mom :) 

This link is for ancient genealogy. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mdbaltim/

He guaduated in Balltimore, Maryland (I believe), was he born in Baltimore, too?   


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 17, 2011, 09:59:47 PM
Updated article; with video
Page 2 of the article mentions the name of the judge and that FBI is sending bloodhounds.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496&page=2

Missing in Aruba: Investigators Focus on Insurance Policy
By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) , ALEXA MIRANDA, RICHARD ESPOSITO
Aug. 17, 2011

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These developments were considered so significant that on Tuesday Judge Monique Yarzagaray ruled that Giordano be detained for double the time the prosecution originally requested. While in jail Giordano will undergo day-long interrogation each day, in which his lawyer can only be present before and afterward.

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Authorities in Aruba will now be focusing the search for Gardner on an area away from the beach where she went missing, but within the area where she could've traveled in that 4 p.m.to 6 p.m. timeline. The FBI is sending bloodhounds, while Curacao and Aruba riot cops and volunteers will comb the area.  

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 17, 2011, 11:23:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cheDnkHkHE

http://www.youtube.com/v/3cheDnkHkHE?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 17, 2011, 11:33:58 PM
I know this insurance thing may not be too relevant, but it's something that's been gnawing at me.

The consensus is that it was not a life insurance policy, but was traveling insurance.

The newspaper article mentioned the "American Express insurance".

I checked the AE travel insurance, and it only applies to things related to the travel (lost suitcases, delays, reservations, etc...)

There is the other travel insurance, it covers only inconveniences and accidents while flying, while at the airport, or while traveling to and from the airport.

I am NOT an insurance person, so I'm really talking out of my youknowwhat.

There is another insurance, which is free and automatic, for anyone using the American Express card to book a flight or to rent a car. This one works more or less like the travel insurance discussed above.

Here is a link to the site: https://www295.americanexpress.com/fsea/travel/airflight/coverage.do

It includes "domestic partners", so I see the beneficiary doesn't need to be a blood relative or spouse.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2011, 11:48:05 PM
Cookie, is this the same part you're talking about?  Click on the picture for a short clip of the video.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/th_GaryGiordano_Hair1.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/?action=view&current=GaryGiordano_Hair1.mp4)

yep! that is the one! what man does that to his hair unless it is not his hair?

It definitely didn't look normal, later on he kept scratching the back of his head, maybe the glue was running in that heat!

I guess they use glue or something to hold it on right?  I really don't know!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Gardner’s American boyfriend told authorities that she wasn’t the type to go snorkeling, and one of Giordano’s ex-wives told the FBI that because Giordano had a hairweave he rarely got his head wet. Instead they believe Giordano killed Gardner in a violent rage and then hid her body, possibly weighting it down before dumping her in the sea or burying her in one of the island’s mines, caves, or swamps.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/17/robyn-gardner-aruba-disappearance-suspect-s-troubled-past.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 12:32:40 AM
Cookie, is this the same part you're talking about?  Click on the picture for a short clip of the video.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/th_GaryGiordano_Hair1.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/?action=view&current=GaryGiordano_Hair1.mp4)

yep! that is the one! what man does that to his hair unless it is not his hair?

It definitely didn't look normal, later on he kept scratching the back of his head, maybe the glue was running in that heat!

I guess they use glue or something to hold it on right?  I really don't know!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
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Gardner’s American boyfriend told authorities that she wasn’t the type to go snorkeling, and one of Giordano’s ex-wives told the FBI that because Giordano had a hairweave he rarely got his head wet. Instead they believe Giordano killed Gardner in a violent rage and then hid her body, possibly weighting it down before dumping her in the sea or burying her in one of the island’s mines, caves, or swamps.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/17/robyn-gardner-aruba-disappearance-suspect-s-troubled-past.html


He either has both, or has had a hairweave at one time; and uses toupee's now...I don't know if you clicked on the picture and watched the video clip in this post...but he seemed to be adjusting his toupee during questioning on the beach. ::MonkeyWink::


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027015/Robyn-Gardner-case-Gary-Giordano-took-1-5m-insurance-policy.html

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Officers having been tracing the movements of Giordano in the hours before Ms Gardner's disappearance, but said they have had trouble identifying him in surveillance video because he frequently changes his toupees.
 
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 12:48:10 AM
Garbner - Gardner
Nanki Club - Jad's Dive and Reef Rum
Baby Beach - Rodgers Beach - Neither?
Renaissance - Marriott - A Marriott Hotel
Life Insurance Policy - Traveler's Insurance
Toupee - Hairweave


I'm sure I've missed some, and I'm sure over time considering what we already know about news out of Aruba...the list will grow.






Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 01:28:36 AM
http://www.diario.aw/2011/08/ultimo-desaroyonan-den-caso-di-mericano-perdi/

Papiamentu translation:

ultimo desaroyonan in caso of mericano perdi:

publication: wednesday, 17 august 2011.

categoria: judicial

in car not owing to achieve nothing y celular is worde investiga

oranjestad (aan): tuesday daily paper did take contacto cu advocate general taco stein, tocante the ultimo desaroyonan in the caso of desaparicion of robyn gardner, after cu monday detencion of the sospechoso principal gary giordano owing to worde prolonga cu 16 day.

daily paper owing to ask about stein tocante the car cu giordano owing to huur cu owing to worde confisca.

past owing to splica cu owing to haci one investigacion on the car, but nothing owing to of importancia owing to worde achieve.

the car owing to bay back at the compania of huur car.

for thing is prolongacion of detencion of the sospechoso, the advocate general owing to indica cu the proximo trip cu giordano aparece at huez comisario, this will is for one prolongacion of 60 day.

daily paper owing to ask about stein kico giordano owing to declara of the equipo of snorkel cu the was have cune y past owing to splica cu the mericano owing to bise cu the equipo of snorkel was of dje, then cu the not owing to huur this.

stein owing to splica cu autoridadnan is haciendo one investigacion on the celular of giordano cu they owing to confisca, for look at if they can achieve cualkier pista important.

for thing is the pareha of gardner esta richard forester, stein owing to indica cu autoridadnan of aruba owing to ask merca for take one declaracion of forester tocante the caso here.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 01:31:48 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_ProfilePic-1.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Sharon/Tx on August 18, 2011, 07:07:22 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20520711,00.html

Aruba Mystery: What Happened to Missing Robyn Gardner?

By Nicole Weisensee Egan and Jeff Truesdell

Wednesday August 17, 2011 07:30 PM EDT

Robyn Gardner was supposed to be in Orlando with her parents. At least that's what she told her boyfriend, Richard Forester.

Then she told Forester she actually had gone to Aruba on a surprise family trip.

In fact, the 35-year-old beautiful, blond Maryland woman with a radiant smile had traveled to the Caribbean with a man named Gary Giordano, a 50-year-old businessman also from Maryland with a disturbing past.

Now, Gardner is missing and presumed dead, Giordano is being detained, and questions are mounting about what happened during their island stay.

Graphic Photos

The mystery has only deepened as authorities in Aruba begin releasing details from the investigation.

The most recent shocker was the discovery of graphic photographs on Giordano's digital camera. The photos show Gardner in sexual positions with "parts of" Giordano, according to Stein. The images, a source tells PEOPLE are "beyond pornographic."

No other information about the photos has been revealed, and it's still not known exactly when the pictures were taken and whether Gardner had engaged in the acts willingly.

It's the latest surprise in a case that had already gained notoriety because of its parallels to the unsolved disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 18, from Aruba in 2005. The suspect in that case, Joran van der Sloot, is being tried this fall in Peru for the murder of another woman. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center has opened a tip line for the Gardner case.

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 ::MonkeyNoNo::
  The digital pictures were "beyond pornographic" and then we hear about sleeping pills and vodka.  What kind of a creep is this guy?!  Did they check which boats came and went that day?  Did they take the blood sample from the palm print or paint over them?!  ::MonkeyMad::  DIG aruba, before more people think they can get away with this there!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 18, 2011, 08:57:51 AM
The most recent shocker was the discovery of graphic photographs on Giordano's digital camera. The photos show Gardner in sexual positions with "parts of" Giordano, according to Stein. The images, a source tells PEOPLE are "beyond pornographic."

No other information about the photos has been revealed, and it's still not known exactly when the pictures were taken and whether Gardner had engaged in the acts willingly.
So he drugged her ,then put his parts in her.. what a guy ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 18, 2011, 10:42:57 AM
Sooo...I fell asleep thinking about this last night...first thing I thought of this morning was MR. PINK...

So, I'm wondering if Robyn was an escort but her friends & family are afraid to release that info.

I'm wondering if Gary Giordano's company, Leverage LLC, is linked to social media networking proxies for adult people finders.

I wonder if myredbook &/or nettrav (among others) are being utilized by these people surrounding Robyn Gardner.

I wonder if bangbros can be linked to some of these network sites utilized by Giordano, Gardner and others.

If bangbros can be linked, then there's the connection with Aruba.

Something I find ironic is that some of the sites Casey Anthony searched online were linked to Carlsbad CA & Miami FL. Some of these same adult singles sites link to the same places, including Reading PA. I know what's in the media but I truly don't believe Gardner met Giordano on match.com & if she did then her profile was worded carefully, like his.

Does anyone know anything about the angel network?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 18, 2011, 10:55:26 AM
Hi Bearly!  ::HelloKitty::  Any chance Robyn will get her own forum or is it too soon?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: seahorse on August 18, 2011, 11:29:14 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/brachm5/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba_n_926012_102684928.html

A first comment that opened my mind-up... ::MonkeyEek::

These people really need a hobby.




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 18, 2011, 11:30:54 AM

Missing in Aruba: Investigators Focus on Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


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Surveillance video from local businesses place Giordano and Gardner at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island before Gardner went missing, a law enforcement source told ABC News. Restaurant staff said that Gardner seemed woozy while the two ate; Giordano later told police they'd been drinking vodka at the Marriott before dining, and that she'd taken sleeping pills earlier in the day, the source said.

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Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496

http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496&page=2


Aruba Mystery: What Happened to Missing Robyn Gardner?
Wednesday August 17, 2011 07:30 PM EDT


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The most recent shocker was the discovery of graphic photographs on Giordano's digital camera. The photos show Gardner in sexual positions with "parts of" Giordano, according to Stein. The images, a source tells PEOPLE are "beyond pornographic."

No other information about the photos has been revealed, and it's still not known exactly when the pictures were taken and whether Gardner had engaged in the acts willingly.

It's the latest surprise in a case that had already gained notoriety because of its parallels to the unsolved disappearance of Natalee Holloway, 18, from Aruba in 2005. The suspect in that case, Joran van der Sloot, is being tried this fall in Peru for the murder of another woman. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center has opened a tip line for the Gardner case.

The leads have been provocative. Along with the photos, authorities revealed they're looking into a $1.5 million accidental death insurance policy that Giordano reportedly took out on Gardner before their trip.

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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20520711,00.html


Could it be the Gary Giordano had been drugging Robin Gardner since their arrival on the Island three days earlier?

Janet


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 18, 2011, 11:39:06 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT

NANCY GRACE
Aired August 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST:  ... Now claims emerging Gardner woozy at that lunch, woozy after being given sleeping pills. Who takes sleeping pills before they snorkel? ...

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/17/ng.01.html



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 18, 2011, 11:43:29 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/brachm5/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba_n_926012_102684928.html

A first comment that opened my mind-up... ::MonkeyEek::

These people really need a hobby.


Hmmm... Interesting, plus i believe it. From your link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/brachm5/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba_n_926012_102684928.html

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“Does anyone know what Gary Giordano does for a living back in Gaithersbu rg Maryland?! ?!?!”
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John0211
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12:21 PM on 8/14/2011
He owns a company called "Leverage LLC", if you google it or look for it on Linkedin you can find it. It is some kind of bullsh#t IT staffing company. He went to Univ of Maryland and also Severna Park High School. Guy is well known as a psycho on dating sites, including the adult sex site he is on called "Adultfrie ndfinder". ..word is that this Gardner woman met him on the adult sex site and NOT Match.com, her friends and family told the cops it was Match.com to keep her from looking like she was some kind of sew for money chick....
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12:59 PM on 8/14/2011
John: Thank you for that info. How did you know all this? Very interestin g isn't it? They say water seeks it's own level and that seems to be so true.
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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 18, 2011, 11:53:59 AM
Gary Giordano Tried to Collect Insurance Payout on Robyn Gardner: Sources
Aug. 18, 2011


Gary Giordano, the only suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, tried to redeem an insurance policy on Gardner that could be worth up to $1.5 million, according to reports.

Giordano moved to collect on the policy, which named him as beneficiary, within two days of reporting Gardner missing, the Associated Press reported.

Police were investigating an accidental death insurance policy for Gardner that named Giordano, 50, as the beneficiary, ABC News had reported earlier this week.

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/gary-giordano-redeem-insurance-policy-robyn-gardner/story?id=14331550



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 18, 2011, 11:57:30 AM
Gary Giordano Tried to Collect Insurance Payout on Robyn Gardner: Sources
Aug. 18, 2011


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Travel Insurance Policy Focus of Robyn Gardner Investigation

In Maryland, Gardner's live-in boyfriend Robert Forester said the revelations about the insurance policy were disturbing.

"To be honest, I was saddened to hear it. I can't believe that Robyn would ever sign something like that voluntarily. Maybe if she was forced to, maybe if she was misinformed to what it was," Forester said.

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/gary-giordano-redeem-insurance-policy-robyn-gardner/story?id=14331550


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: grace-land on August 18, 2011, 12:32:30 PM
Sorry if it is a duplicate.

http://www.insurance.com/life-insurance/coverage/accidental-death-and-dismemberment-insurance.aspx

Accidental Death and Dismemberment Insurance
By Jdelly
Posted : 10/17/2008

Summary

AD&D insurance pays a set amount for accidental death or dismemberment
Covers only the direct, proven results of an accident
Very specific coverage that provides limited protection
Can be purchased as a rider on an existing policy or as a separate policy
Probably not worth purchasing


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Where to Buy AD&D
You can generally purchase accidental death and dismemberment insurance as a separate policy or as a rider (endorsement) on a basic life, health or other insurance policy. AD&D policies are typically issued by major insurers and can also be purchased through credit card offers or credit unions. Some life or health insurance companies may include or offer AD&D in their group insurance plans.

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 12:40:00 PM
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The person with knowledge of the policy told the AP that Giordano purchased a $1.5 million American Express ( AXP - news - people ) Travel Insurance policy shortly before he left for Aruba and that the accidental-death benefit covered only the length of their short trip.

The source told the AP that Giordano called the insurance company on Aug. 4, while the search for Gardner was still going on. He sought to confirm that the documents listing him as the insurance beneficiary had been received and wanted to begin redeeming the policy.

This person also said that records indicate Giordano asked whether any search costs would be covered by the policy

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http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/08/18/general-cb-aruba-missing-american_8629836.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 12:42:13 PM
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Police have also discovered naked photos of Robyn with Giordano on his digital camera, and the pictures are “beyond pornographic,” according to People magazine.

“You only see organs,” Julia Renfro, the editor-in-chief of Aruba Today said, explaining that it was unclear if the acts were consensual. “You don’t know if she is awake. There are other pictures where she is posing naked.”

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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/report-beyond-pornographic-photos-robyn-gardner-found-suspect-s-digital-camera


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 18, 2011, 01:04:42 PM
Nanki
 Aruba

 Thursday, August 18, 2011 The twists and turns into the mystery of the missing 35 year old Robyn Gardner could all be a plot jointly set up by Gardner and Gary Giordano so they can make money in the near future. Aruba it seems would be an ideal place for someone to disappear in, as the police have proved in the past that maybe they are not over competent as they failed to find Natalee Holloway in the infamous Joran van der Sloot case back in 2006.

 Maybe the case today is not about murder but an intricate plot to make money! Why well a number of ‘beyond pornographic’ images have been found of Robyn Gardner and Gary Giordano having sex these type of extreme images would be suitable to be sold on the Internet, and assuming they are well marketed will bring in substantial revenue. ::snipping2::

Extreme! Maybe but the real world is much stranger than fiction.

 Let’s suppose there is a one percent chance they did plan to dupe the insurance company for $1.5 million, the plan has backfired in spectacular fashion.

 Did Robyn Gardner cut a deal with Gary Giordano on an Insurance Con …


http://www.cityjournalistdirectory.com/event/did_robyn_gardner_cut_a_deal_with_gary_giordano_on_an_insurance_con_15705/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: seahorse on August 18, 2011, 01:23:53 PM
Nanki
 Aruba

 Thursday, August 18, 2011 The twists and turns into the mystery of the missing 35 year old Robyn Gardner could all be a plot jointly set up by Gardner and Gary Giordano so they can make money in the near future. Aruba it seems would be an ideal place for someone to disappear in, as the police have proved in the past that maybe they are not over competent as they failed to find Natalee Holloway in the infamous Joran van der Sloot case back in 2006.

 Maybe the case today is not about murder but an intricate plot to make money! Why well a number of ‘beyond pornographic’ images have been found of Robyn Gardner and Gary Giordano having sex these type of extreme images would be suitable to be sold on the Internet, and assuming they are well marketed will bring in substantial revenue. ::snipping2::

Extreme! Maybe but the real world is much stranger than fiction.

 Let’s suppose there is a one percent chance they did plan to dupe the insurance company for $1.5 million, the plan has backfired in spectacular fashion.

 Did Robyn Gardner cut a deal with Gary Giordano on an Insurance Con …


http://www.cityjournalistdirectory.com/event/did_robyn_gardner_cut_a_deal_with_gary_giordano_on_an_insurance_con_15705/

Good afternoon Monkey's,

Blonde- thanks for the article...keeps us thinking ::MonkeyEek::

You need a body to prove someone is death, is that right?  ::MonkeyTongue::

I have a hard time believing he tried to cash-in an issurance claim, he knows he needs proof.  The article's do not name
their "source" and I am skeptical of believe anything I read, without a real name.

IMO

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 18, 2011, 01:24:24 PM
Nanki
 Aruba

 Thursday, August 18, 2011 The twists and turns into the mystery of the missing 35 year old Robyn Gardner could all be a plot jointly set up by Gardner and Gary Giordano so they can make money in the near future. Aruba it seems would be an ideal place for someone to disappear in, as the police have proved in the past that maybe they are not over competent as they failed to find Natalee Holloway in the infamous Joran van der Sloot case back in 2006.

 Maybe the case today is not about murder but an intricate plot to make money! Why well a number of ‘beyond pornographic’ images have been found of Robyn Gardner and Gary Giordano having sex these type of extreme images would be suitable to be sold on the Internet, and assuming they are well marketed will bring in substantial revenue. ::snipping2::

Extreme! Maybe but the real world is much stranger than fiction.

 Let’s suppose there is a one percent chance they did plan to dupe the insurance company for $1.5 million, the plan has backfired in spectacular fashion.

 Did Robyn Gardner cut a deal with Gary Giordano on an Insurance Con …


http://www.cityjournalistdirectory.com/event/did_robyn_gardner_cut_a_deal_with_gary_giordano_on_an_insurance_con_15705/

Step number one for filing an insurance claim:

Provide copy of the death certificate.  Sound of screeching halt.

Step number two by insurance company facing a 1.5 million payout:

Launch investigation to see if "beneficiary" , the person who stands to benefit from the "accident" could possible have involvement.  I would say that from his arrest and detention, this would be a big ole stumbling block for Gary.

Don't know how this works in ARUBA, but normally, much is required to obtain a death certificate for missing persons.  It can sometimes take years to have a missing person finally declared dead.

If there was a plan by anyone to cash in on insurance, it was not well thought out.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I mean, I think my kids know that wouldn't work out.





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 18, 2011, 02:02:03 PM
Has anyone bothered to ask if the Aruba trip was the first time in which she had posed with him for porno pictures?

I mean, if there are no other occasions in which porno pictures were taken with him... what are the odds that he took these before she died?

Could it have been to prove later on that they were consummating their love and happy, and that the other guy was NOT her "domestic partner?"

About the insurance, we need official information on this, as to what kind it was, when it was purchased, and whether Robyn Gardner knew about it. I mean, a "confidential source", Nancy Grace, or someone over at "Doctor Phil" may not be the most reliable resource.

From that article above, his cellphone is going to be checked, the U.S. boyfriend will be interviewed by the Aruba LE, something about the snorkeling equipment used by Giordano, and that the next trip in front of the judge could keep him in jail for 60 days.

Personally, I think that he is not too bright. Who calls the insurance company to file a claim about a person who has only been missing two days and has not been declared dead by an official agency, yet?



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 18, 2011, 02:02:24 PM


Full Article "Leverage LLC CEO Gary Giordano Accused In Aruba Disappearance" at

http://staffingtalk.com/leverage-llc-ceo-accused-aruba-disappearance/

 ::snipping2::

Giordano, as of Aug. 14, was still being detained in Aruba and was set to go before a judge in a closed hearing the following day. Meanwhile, the feds are researching the documents they found in a home raid last week.

 ::snipping2::

I called the listed number for Leverage LLC, to see how they were holding up under all the media scrutiny about its owner. It went straight to the voicemail of Giordano himself; the inbox is full. As of the time of publication, emails were not returned to us.


::snipping2::

At this point it doesn’t even appear that Leverage LLC is a functional staffing company. If you or anyone you know works for this company, please send a note to tips@staffingtalk.com and let us know how you’re holding up.


 ::MonkeyShocked::


Gary's company, Leverage LLC, might have been a one-man show.   


http://leverage-us.com/index.html



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 18, 2011, 02:19:47 PM
It appears that Julia Renfro's relationship with the "powers that be" within the ALE ... relationship that was thisclose during the Natalee Holloway investigation ... has not changed.

Why would a reporter/editor be privy to Robyn Gardner case evidence that has yet to be released to the media?

++++

The Robyn Gardner Case

REPORT: ‘Beyond Pornographic’ Photos Of Robyn Gardner Found In Suspect’s Digital Camera
Posted on Aug 18, 2011 @ 11:15AM


<snipped> 

Police have also discovered naked photos of Robyn with Giordano on his digital camera, and the pictures are “beyond pornographic,” according to People magazine.

“You only see organs,” Julia Renfro, the editor-in-chief of Aruba Today said, explaining that it was unclear if the acts were consensual. “You don’t know if she is awake. There are other pictures where she is posing naked.”

<snipped>

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/report-beyond-pornographic-photos-robyn-gardner-found-suspect-s-digital-camera


The Natalee Holloway Case

Is the Government of Aruba Going after Natalee's Family?
Published December 07, 2005


BILL O'REILLY, HOST:  ... The thesis, and they quote Deputy Chief Gerold Dompig in the article. The thesis is that the Holloway family, Twitty family, impeded the police investigation, Julia. Do you believe that?

JULIA RENFRO, EDITOR, ARUBA TODAY: Well, it’s not really what I believe, but I did speak to the Commissioner Dompig earlier today, and I asked him, "What did you mean by they hurt the investigation?" And he said he’s not blaming them specifically for anything, but that their attacks via the U.S. media certainly changed the tide of the investigation, basically, pressuring the police to make what they felt, believe it or not, premature arrests of the suspect.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177980,00.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: seahorse on August 18, 2011, 02:26:03 PM
Has anyone bothered to ask if the Aruba trip was the first time in which she had posed with him for porno pictures?

I mean, if there are no other occasions in which porno pictures were taken with him... what are the odds that he took these before she died?

Could it have been to prove later on that they were consummating their love and happy, and that the other guy was NOT her "domestic partner?"

About the insurance, we need official information on this, as to what kind it was, when it was purchased, and whether Robyn Gardner knew about it. I mean, a "confidential source", Nancy Grace, or someone over at "Doctor Phil" may not be the most reliable resource.

From that article above, his cellphone is going to be checked, the U.S. boyfriend will be interviewed by the Aruba LE, something about the snorkeling equipment used by Giordano, and that the next trip in front of the judge could keep him in jail for 60 days.

Personally, I think that he is not too bright. Who calls the insurance company to file a claim about a person who has only been missing two days and has not been declared dead by an official agency, yet?



Good questions.

The insurance company, is self-advertising, throught the phantom sources, my conclusion and IMO.

The undisclosed source, is Bunk!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 18, 2011, 03:06:53 PM
is this ROBYN I stoled this picture hat tip to zed
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/zed0101/colsonpose.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 18, 2011, 03:09:15 PM
(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/08/RobynGardner_20110808203132_320_240.JPG)

(http://sharing.myfoxatlanta.com/sharewttg//photo/2011/08/08/RobynGardner2_20110808203133_320_240.JPG)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 18, 2011, 03:13:16 PM
is this ROBYN I stoled this picture hat tip to zed
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/zed0101/colsonpose.jpg)
Looks like bruises on her side  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 18, 2011, 03:22:39 PM
Thanks, Blonde.

At first I thought no, but the tattoo looks kinda the same in the shoulder area. Not sure about the part on the arm. 

Those do kinda look like bruises, don't they?

I bet if Giordano's camera has porno pics, there's no telling what the FBI is looking at in Virginia.  Naked pics of unconscious women?

Giordano gets creepier by the minute.   ::MonkeyMad::




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 18, 2011, 03:29:27 PM

OOPS! Did I say Va, meant Maryland.

 :2redman:



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: I dont feel tardy on August 18, 2011, 04:45:39 PM
Gary G. is a naughty naughty naughty boy


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 04:50:58 PM
is this ROBYN I stoled this picture hat tip to zed
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/zed0101/colsonpose.jpg)
Looks like bruises on her side  ::MonkeyEek::

That photo is from:

www.modelmayhem.com
Where Professional Models Meet Model Photographers - ModelMayhem


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 04:51:42 PM
(http://boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/f337e847ca5ef051e5b34b41296f3023.jpg)
Despues cu e homber mericano Gary Giordano a keda deteni despues di ta sospechoso den e caso di desaparacion di e dama turista Robyn Gardner a sigui cu investigacion. E homber Gary ultimo a stop di duna informacion na autoridad y aki a sigui cu investigacion fuerte. Diabierna atardi hunto cu e team di Mobile Eenheid, brandweer y autoridad policial a haci varios buskeda rond, altura di Santana di Cacho, den e ceronan, grotnan y tambe den algun pos cu tin poco pa noord di Baby beach y vecindario. A bin logra haya den algun pos slof y algun trahenan underwear di persona cual polis a tuma esaki den beslag pa investigacion.
http://boletinextra.com/index.php/local-news/10157-buskeda-ta-continua-pa-e-dama-mericano-perdi-y-awor-den-colony
http://www.boletinextra.com/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 04:52:19 PM
Stein, who serves as a spokesman for the Aruban public prosecutor’s office....Stein said investigators had determined that Giordano did have snorkeling equipment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...kFJ_story.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: I dont feel tardy on August 18, 2011, 04:53:01 PM
have they searched the landfill????


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
"VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, that`s OK, just listen to me -- and if you can answer my question -- I find it just disturbing that the attorney for this man, Gary Giordano, is suggesting that maybe your girlfriend`s body is gone in the ocean somewhere?

FORESTER: Yes, that`s kind of disgusting to me, that they would just assume that, especially coming with what I hear about Baby Bay. I don`t see how that`s possible. I know when she was younger, she was a -- she was a strong swimmer, but I can`t understand how it would just be gone."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...1/ijvm.01.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 04:56:30 PM
August 2nd
2 AM msg to boyfriend "this sucks",
3 AM email to boyfriend she wants to work things out
She and Gary were seen at a cafe near the snorkel location in the afternoon
4 pm seen by diver shop
5 pm unknown whereabouts
6:23pm  she is reported missing




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 04:58:08 PM
Leverage LLC

http://www.leverage-us.com/
"Leverage LLC in Gaithersburg, MD is a private company categorized under Unclassified. Our records show it was established in and incorporated in Maryland. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $88,000 and employs a staff of approximately 2."


http://www.facebook.com/gary.giordano2?sk=info


http://www.myspace.com/426371802


Giordano, 50, CEO of Gaithersburg, Maryland IT and consulting staffing company Leverage LLC,
http://staffingtalk.com/leverage-llc-ceo-accused-aruba-disappearance/


http://whois.domaintools.com/leverage-us.com
Domain Name.......... leverage-us.com

  Creation Date........ 2005-02-19
  Registration Date.... 2005-02-19
  Expiry Date.......... 2013-02-19
  Organisation Name.... Gary Giordano
  Organisation Address. 12413 Pueblo Road
  Organisation Address.
  Organisation Address. Gaithersburg
  Organisation Address. 20878
  Organisation Address. MD
  Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Gary Giordano
  Admin Address........ 12413 Pueblo Road
  Admin Address........
  Admin Address........ Gaithersburg
  Admin Address........ 20878
  Admin Address........ MD
  Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
  Admin Email..........
  Admin Phone.......... +1.3015271955
  Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
  Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
  Tech Address.........
  Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
  Tech Address......... 94089
  Tech Address......... CA
  Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
  Tech Email...........
  Tech Phone........... +1.4089162124
  Tech Fax.............
  Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
  Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 05:00:02 PM
Robyn Lynn-Faith Colson

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...type=1&theater


"Robyn, who's maiden name is Colson, was previously married to Kenneth Gardner in 1998, but the couple were divorced in 2009, according to Forester."
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...-marriage-kids

She was receiving $2000.00 a month alimony. Ex-husband had gone back to court to get a mondification.


IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO KENNETH GARDNER AND GARY GIORDANO? I wonder


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 05:01:45 PM
have they searched the landfill????


(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/70417e37f700f73b885ec45910a0f866.jpg)
I dunno, let's ask this man while he is out in Aruba



(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/f4325a9578447669c6c47bb445ffab73.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: AZSunny on August 18, 2011, 05:25:16 PM
have they searched the landfill????


(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/70417e37f700f73b885ec45910a0f866.jpg)
I dunno, let's ask this man while he is out in Aruba



(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/f4325a9578447669c6c47bb445ffab73.jpg)


OMG,  I think I am with Nancy's reaction on this one.  Too funny Kermit!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 18, 2011, 05:29:12 PM
have they searched the landfill????


(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/70417e37f700f73b885ec45910a0f866.jpg)
I dunno, let's ask this man while he is out in Aruba



(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/f4325a9578447669c6c47bb445ffab73.jpg)


Oh my gosh Kermit! You're hysterical!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 05:34:28 PM
 ::snipping2::

GRACE: We are live in Aruba, taking your calls. Breaking news. As we go to air, an unused condom apparently straight out of the package and a bloody palmprint found at that restaurant, the Rum Reef restaurant, where the two were having that seaside lunch just two hours before Giordano reports Robyn is gone.

Also, video surveillance emerges, Giordano fumbling around behind the restaurant for several minutes before he goes in to try to report her missing. Now, how does that jive with initial reports that he approached a couple, an unknown couple on the beach, asking them to call 911? How many people did he ask to call 911? And why was he making such a spectacle of looking for her?

As we go to air tonight, we also learn a lot of late-breaking news. We learned as cops and volunteers, everybody out looking for Robyn Gardner, the young American tourist, he goes back to the hotel, saying he`s got to get some sleep. OK.

Out to Martin Savidge, CNN correspondent, standing there at Nanki Point in Aruba. Martin, what is this about an unused condom and a bloody palmprint? What was the bloody palmprint on behind the restaurant?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Nancy, these two key pieces of evidence came to light today in the investigation. Authorities had known about it for a couple of days, but here is what we have heard, and that is the blood and perhaps a handprint in that blood was discovered in the area where Gary Giordano had said that they had been snorkeling. Right now, authorities will only say the blood find is interesting. And they say they will not confirm or they will not deny. I asked them the same about the condom. Again, interesting. But they will not confirm or deny, saying that this...

 ::snipping2::

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/17/ng.01.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Titch on August 18, 2011, 05:35:06 PM
is this ROBYN I stoled this picture hat tip to zed
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/zed0101/colsonpose.jpg)
Looks like bruises on her side  ::MonkeyEek::

That photo is from:

www.modelmayhem.com
Where Professional Models Meet Model Photographers - ModelMayhem


Nothing against modelmayhem but that's where models go that are less than 3rd rate or also do porn/soft & hard. Usually these models are the ones that aren't tall enough, skinny enough, have symmetrical features, full lips, large feet, short fingers, big knuckles &/or knees, etc.

I suspect Robyn was not on the up & up. My money's on escorting.

Is there any chance Robyn will have her own forum or should I start posting the stuff I'm
Coming across with regards to her acquaintances? I was just worried some might get lost.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 05:37:34 PM
Images of woman missing in Aruba found on camera
Solicitor general declines to comment on nature of pictures of Robyn Gardner

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44187125/ns/today-today_people/t/images-woman-missing-aruba-found-camera/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 05:43:47 PM
 ::snipping2::

According to the transcript, Giordano told police that he feared for his life when he signaled for Gardner to turn back and didn't look for her as he swam for shore.

"I only looked back when I hit a rock," the document quotes Giordano as telling investigators. "Before that, I did not look back. I was only busy saving my life."

Gardner had been snorkeling before and was a comfortable swimmer, he said. And he showed police scrapes on his legs, but he said he did not know how they happened.

 ::snipping2::

In his interview, Giordano said he ran a temporary manpower agency and did not want to discuss his business income since it varied from month to month. He said that his finances were in good shape, that he had no debt beyond a mortgage and that he paid $600 a month in child support for his two children from a previous marriage.

Giordano is being held at the island's prison, the Correctional Institute of Aruba, commonly known by the Dutch acronym KIA. Aruban authorities said Thursday that two convicts from that facility escaped sometime after midnight, but Giordano remained locked up.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/18/aruba.missing.woman/index.html?section=cnn_latest


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
http://www.realitywanted.com/robynlgardner



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Helen Back on August 18, 2011, 06:14:00 PM
http://www.realitywanted.com/robynlgardner



Wow.  Seems Giordano used that line about being a producer that he had used on other women. 

  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 06:54:42 PM
is this ROBYN I stoled this picture hat tip to zed
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/zed0101/colsonpose.jpg)
Looks like bruises on her side  ::MonkeyEek::

That photo is from:

www.modelmayhem.com
Where Professional Models Meet Model Photographers - ModelMayhem


Nothing against modelmayhem but that's where models go that are less than 3rd rate or also do porn/soft & hard. Usually these models are the ones that aren't tall enough, skinny enough, have symmetrical features, full lips, large feet, short fingers, big knuckles &/or knees, etc.

I suspect Robyn was not on the up & up. My money's on escorting.

Is there any chance Robyn will have her own forum or should I start posting the stuff I'm
Coming across with regards to her acquaintances? I was just worried some might get lost.

This is her own thread, I don't understand what you mean by her own forum?

Are you maybe talking about the a thread in the "Missing High Profile" area.

TIA

 ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't really know how it works, but I'm thinking that if Klaas decides to change where Robyn's thread is; that everything that's been posted here would be moved there.

But that's just me thinking...   


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 18, 2011, 07:13:43 PM
is this ROBYN I stoled this picture hat tip to zed
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/zed0101/colsonpose.jpg)
Looks like bruises on her side  ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/1727898/viewall


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 18, 2011, 07:26:21 PM
Beth Holloway will be Dr. Drew's guest tonight.  The Robyn Gardner case will be the topic of discussion.

Janet

+++++

Missing in Aruba: Investigators Focus on Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


<snipped>

Gardner, 35, has been missing for two weeks, since reportedly snorkeling with Giordano, 50, off of an isolated beach on Aug. 2. The two traveled together from Maryland to Aruba on July 31. She is now presumed to be dead by Aruba police.

<snipped>

Police are asking members of the public that may have information about Gardner's disappearance to call 011-297-582-0695 and leave their tip and contact information. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center, which is also helping with the case, has set up an American tip line at 407-237-2295.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496

http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496&page=2



Website:
Natalee Holloway Resouce Center
http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
http://helpthemissing.org/

Facebook:
Natalee Holloway Resource Center
http://www.facebook.com/HelpTheMissing

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall



6:00 PM PT


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 08:50:44 PM
 ::snipping2::

Giordano's attorney is not commenting on the case. It's also been reported that Giordano threatened to fire him if he made any more comments to the media.


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44196829/ns/local_news-hagerstown_md/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
 ::snipping2::

They reportedly have surveillance video of Giordano acting strangely on the day that his companion disappeared. He was seen moving his car several times and wearing different types of toupees. Reports of blood found at the dive shop where the couple was last seen has not been confirmed or denied by local authorities.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/10028595-update-on-woman-missing-in-arubasuspect-has-beyond-pornographic-pics-of-her-tried-to-collect-15-m-insurance


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 08:55:19 PM
 ::snipping2::
Ms. Gardner, who grew up in Mount Airy and graduated from South Carroll High School in Sykesville, Md., in 1994, spent most of her adult life in the nearby city of Frederick. She moved there with husband Kenneth Gardner, to whom she was married for about 10 years.

The couple bought a newly renovated home on Second Street in downtown Frederick, where they lived until they separated in 2009, according to court records filed in Frederick County.

“I believe they paid top price for it, then the market tanked,” said neighbor Bill Mohan.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/18/missing-maryland-woman-hoped-for-a-getaway/


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 18, 2011, 09:06:01 PM
have they searched the landfill????


(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/70417e37f700f73b885ec45910a0f866.jpg)
I dunno, let's ask this man while he is out in Aruba



(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/f4325a9578447669c6c47bb445ffab73.jpg)



KERMIT!! Wow! That's the first pic I've seen of Depak in a long time!    ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 09:31:41 PM
http://fubar.com/3377664


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 09:35:36 PM
have they searched the landfill????


(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/70417e37f700f73b885ec45910a0f866.jpg)
I dunno, let's ask this man while he is out in Aruba



(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/f4325a9578447669c6c47bb445ffab73.jpg)



KERMIT!! Wow! That's the first pic I've seen of Depak in a long time!    ::MonkeyJnBox::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
Looks like he's trying to get his butt tanned before he comes to AmereeeeeeeeeKA!



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 09:38:53 PM
have they searched the landfill????


(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/70417e37f700f73b885ec45910a0f866.jpg)
I dunno, let's ask this man while he is out in Aruba



(http://www.boletinextra.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/f4325a9578447669c6c47bb445ffab73.jpg)


Oh my gosh Kermit! You're hysterical!

He takes thong to a whole new level!
 :smt038


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 18, 2011, 09:43:24 PM
http://fubar.com/3377664


ggior
From United States · Invited by: xXDxBombxBabiiXx · Joined on July 23, 2009



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: kippy on August 18, 2011, 10:07:17 PM
http://fubar.com/3377664

His photo was uploaded 7/23/2009...it looks very much like a caribbean island he is on.  Could it be Aruba?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 10:33:33 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::

Gary Giordano, a suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, is shown here in a deer costume in a photo provided to ABC News by a woman who claims Giordano once stalked her.
(http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/GMA/abc_aruba_boyfriend_nt_110812_wg.jpg)

http://abcnews.go.com/meta/search/imageDetail?format=plain&source=http%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2Fimages%2FGMA%2Fabc_aruba_boyfriend_nt_110812


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 10:42:03 PM
http://solodipueblo.com/?p=9054

8/18/2011 Solo di Pueblo

Front Page
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08182011_SoloDiPueblo_FrontPage.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

guy of lady mericano is follow have confidence for return of lady bek at merca

Page 2
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08182011_SoloDiPueblo_Pg2.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

his mensahenan via facebook is stay positive

***guy of lady mericano is follow have confidence for return of lady bek at merca

/// where the lady is? the will arrive cas bek one day?

he mericano, guy of the lady perdi at aruba is follow have confidence for return sano y salvo of his chick. this is his more reciente post upstairs facebook. come across


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 10:44:39 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Gary Giordano, a suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, is shown here in a deer costume in a photo provided to ABC News by a woman who claims Giordano once stalked her.
(http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/GMA/abc_aruba_boyfriend_nt_110812_wg.jpg)

http://abcnews.go.com/meta/search/imageDetail?format=plain&source=http%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2Fimages%2FGMA%2Fabc_aruba_boyfriend_nt_110812

Scary guy isn't he?  IIRC, she said that he showed up outside her window with that on and shined a flashlight under his face.

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

I probably would have shot him.   :smt066


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2011, 10:59:41 PM
::MonkeyEek::

Gary Giordano, a suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, is shown here in a deer costume in a photo provided to ABC News by a woman who claims Giordano once stalked her.
(http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/GMA/abc_aruba_boyfriend_nt_110812_wg.jpg)

http://abcnews.go.com/meta/search/imageDetail?format=plain&source=http%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2Fimages%2FGMA%2Fabc_aruba_boyfriend_nt_110812

Scary guy isn't he?  IIRC, she said that he showed up outside her window with that on and shined a flashlight under his face.

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

I probably would have shot him.   :smt066


If I saw that looking into one of my windows I am pretty sure he would have seen the wrong end of a barrel or a baseball bat here as well. 

Stranger yet, why would a 50 yr od man have that costume to begin with?  I remember watching a CSI once where adults dressed up in animal costumes and yiffed each other.  Could this have been one of his sexual things as well?  I am scared to look for online groups that he could have belonged to that do this.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 11:25:32 PM
Nothing would surprise me at this point Northern Rose.  It just makes me sick.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 11:30:11 PM
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/robyn-lynn-gardner/view

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08182011_FBI_RobynLynnGardner-1.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2011, 11:47:50 PM
Moving to it's own forum up in the Missing Persons High Profile area right after Celina Cass's forum.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 18, 2011, 11:53:01 PM
Moving to it's own forum up in the Missing Persons High Profile area right after Celina Cass's forum.

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 18, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
Moving to it's own forum up in the Missing Persons High Profile area right after Celina Cass's forum.

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2011, 11:54:13 PM
http://fubar.com/3377664

Thanks Northern.  This photo appears to have been taken in 2009.  Can anyone tell where it is?  We have been wondering how familiar he is with Aruba:
(http://b.pcc4.fubar.com/46/67/3377664/1834397092.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2011, 01:24:14 AM
Aruba has postponed until early next week a search for the remains of missing American tourist Robyn Gardner.
Solicitor General Taco Stein says authorities need more time to prepare for the large-scale operation on the Dutch Caribbean island. It had been expected by the end of this week

 ::snipping2::

http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1683416


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 01:34:41 AM
I'm posting these FB posts of Carrie Emerson's because I think there's a few details that I hadn't heard in her interviews in the MSM.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Missing-Robyn-Gardner/268063119876935

 ::snipping2::

Carrie Emerson
Now that I have told my daughter about this, she is a bit freaked out. She does not want to be on camera at this time, and does not want to discuss it. One thing she said to me, that made me laugh a bit, was the fact that this could have been her, and she would never have gotten to meet Lady Gaga! Young girls need to be very careful. I am her manager and her mother so I am a bit over protective, and I guess it is a good thing!
August 12 at 8:09pm
3 people like this.

Nilda Ferrer Nowadays you can't be too over protective. There are too many dangerous people out there.
August 13 at 12:22am

Maureen McGrath Your daughter is so lucky.There is nothing funny about this. So sad.
August 13 at 5:03pm

Carrie Emerson
I did not hear any more from him until I saw the story on the news.
I heard that her family and friends did not understand why she went with him, and I do. He made the offer sound great. I also learned today that she had just lost her job as well.
I remembered that he had e mailed me a couple of times the day or 2 before he had called saying he was a producer and was interested in speaking to my daughter about working with him on modeling jobs. Said he had jobs all over the world including Jamacia, Aruba, the Virgin Islands etc. I had looked him up on the web site my daughter's profile was on, and saw his profile, and he had his picture, as well as in the info, he was a producer, manager etc...It is no longer on there as of this date...
When he called, I did not put the 2 together, at the time...
August 12 at 8:09pm
3 people like this.

 ::snipping2::

Leah Patricia McCray So, do you still have the emails....? & how did he get your number?
Tuesday at 6:38am

Carrie Emerson
I told him he was a scumbag and NO REAL producer would even think like that much less actually SAY it! He called me a bunch of names, said he KNEW we needed the money and I just blew the greatest thing ever. More cursing me out , telling me things such as he could make me disappear and no one would look for me, he knows where I live, etc.. and so I told him off and hung up the phone. I then tried to re-dial his number, to tell him off more, and found out it was a fake number. I have done some checking into him as a producer and can not find anything to this date.
August 12 at 8:09pm
Shelly Ashton likes this.

Nour Fakhreddine Hey @King Ryann r yow fool?? She is telling us what she just tell the FBI ur stupid!
August 15 at 10:37am

Carrie Emerson
HE thought he had me on the hook by this point, having talked about snorkeling, jet skiing, shopping, clubbing and modeling. He made the trip sound great. THEN he started asking me really personal questions such as was I single, did I ever do any modeling, would I like to hook up with a producer who was well endowed both in the physical and financial department?
That threw me. I told him I was not interested and neither was my daughter, and he got angry. He said I was an idiot throwing away a free trip and cash. He said if I went, and would sleep with him, and he would take care of me well. He then said we would be taken care of for the rest of my life (financially) if I let him have my daughter as well.
August 12 at 8:09pm
Shelly Ashton likes this.

Carrie Emerson
I then got back on the phone as me, and he told me all about the shoot, and she would be well taken care of. Also there would be no sex involved. Anything to put me at ease. He was very convincing. He even said he would share the room with her to make sure she was safe, "after the Natalee Holloway thing"...Saying he would take care of everything and be sure she was guarded the whole time etc...(that is when I started to get suspicious).
I told him that she could not travel abroad alone, and I would have to accompany her. He started asking me personal questions, such as build, look etc...When I asked him why he was asking me this, he said he could get me into the shoot as well, and could give us $7000 each if we both came. That the company was doing a mother/daughter swimsuit edition as well.
August 12 at 8:08pm

Carrie Emerson
He asked if she had a current passport,and when I said" yes," and he he proceeded to tell me about the trip to Aruba and the shoot.
He said all expenses would be paid, she could go shopping while she was there, "on the company", and she would get $5000 cash as well, on top of everything else, just to go and shoot for a few days. He said he was in a fix because of the other girl backing out and needed someone right away. He was talking about the great sunrises and sets there, and the "infinite beauty"of the island and that was why they were shooting there.
He really came off as having known my daughter and as having talked to her before. Which I knew he had not. I told him it sounded great and to hold on one second so he could talk to my mom/manager. (This whole time he thought I was my daughter)
August 12 at 8:08pm

Carrie Emerson
A few weeks ago,(around the 20th or so ) a man called about a possible modeling job for my daughter. When I first answered the phone, he asked for my daughter, by her modeling name. I said "yes?". He then said "hey , this is Gary from SJ. I loved your profile and pics, and think you would do GREAT modeling swimsuits for my company". He proceeded to ask me if I had modeled before and to tell me he was a producer for a well known swimsuit company("the largest swimsuit retailer in the country"). That he had a girl back out at the last minute, was looking for a local girl, (said he knew we were in Va. and he was near there) and would love for her to come to Aruba for a shoot near the end of July or beginning of august, as long as she has a current passport. I asked him, "Gary who?"(thinking I may have talked to him before) And he said "Gary Giordano,the producer".
August 12 at 8:07pm

Carrie Emerson
It is exactly what I have given to the FBI
August 12 at 7:58pm

Rachel Ross If the FBI allows it....
August 12 at 8:06pm

Carrie Emerson I have clearance...
August 12 at 8:07pm

Carrie Emerson
If anyone would like for me to post my story here. please let me know and I will do so. It is a bit long, but well worth it. It is everything that Girdiano and I talked about on the phone...
August 12 at 7:57pm
Shelly Ashton likes this.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Red on August 19, 2011, 08:08:49 AM
Missing in Aruba ... Case Just Got More Bizarre, Gary Giordano Took Out $1.5 million Policy out on Robyn Gardner before Trip to Aruba & Pornographic Pics

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/19/missing-in-aruba-case-just-got-more-bizzare-gary-giordano-took-out-1-5-million-policy-out-on-robyn-gardner-before-trip-to-aruba-pornagraphic-pics/

Quote
Although many individuals do take out travel insurance before they go on vacation, this one raises some eye brows. You take out an insurance policy on some one, who you barely know, who is not your fiance, girl friend or even acquaintance.The purchasing of a policy almost brings a form of premeditation into Gardner’s death. According to sources, Giordano tried to redeem the accidental death insurance policy.

Do we know if Giordano is a frequent traveler to Aruba? Its one thing for someone like JVDS who had all kinds of help and connections to hide a body, but a tourist? One would think that some one would have seen or heard something. However, what is most striking is the insurance policy. How does one take that out, let alone another person being so stupid to sign it for some one they don't even know.

I keep coming back to the question, why was the Aruba police, prosecution and judge panel not so diligent in the case of Natalee Holloway.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Blonde on August 19, 2011, 08:26:05 AM
http://fubar.com/3377664

Thanks Northern.  This photo appears to have been taken in 2009.  Can anyone tell where it is?  We have been wondering how familiar he is with Aruba:
(http://b.pcc4.fubar.com/46/67/3377664/1834397092.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Aruba%20Landscapes/Airshot_2_for_gallery.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2011, 08:46:40 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/
Aruba Suspect Trying to Collect Insurance Money
Suspect in Robyn Gardner's disappearance is reportedly trying to cash in.
8/19/2011



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2011, 09:47:55 AM
Is anyone getting hinky feelings about that Carrie Emerson? does she have the emails or phone recordings? seems so scripted what she is saying...and I do not find her daughters comment about if that was her she would not have been able to meet Lady Gaga..not funny!  Her daughter did not appear to be someone who required a manager when I saw her on tv..if we are talking about the same girl that was on one of the morning shows..jmo...what does the mother manage her for? I missed that...
sorry if this sounds cold of me but I just hate it when people come out of the woodwork for their 15 minutes of fame when someone else has disappeared...I am becoming skeptical I guess...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2011, 10:39:19 AM
Is anyone getting hinky feelings about that Carrie Emerson? does she have the emails or phone recordings? seems so scripted what she is saying...and I do not find her daughters comment about if that was her she would not have been able to meet Lady Gaga..not funny!  Her daughter did not appear to be someone who required a manager when I saw her on tv..if we are talking about the same girl that was on one of the morning shows..jmo...what does the mother manage her for? I missed that...
sorry if this sounds cold of me but I just hate it when people come out of the woodwork for their 15 minutes of fame when someone else has disappeared...I am becoming skeptical I guess...

http://www.issues.cc/complaints/nancy-grace/nancy-grace-gets-conned-by-mother-daughter-duo-gary-giordano


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2011, 10:40:58 AM
Aruba postpones search for missing American

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9P6R4Q00.htm


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2011, 10:44:26 AM
Is anyone getting hinky feelings about that Carrie Emerson? does she have the emails or phone recordings? seems so scripted what she is saying...and I do not find her daughters comment about if that was her she would not have been able to meet Lady Gaga..not funny!  Her daughter did not appear to be someone who required a manager when I saw her on tv..if we are talking about the same girl that was on one of the morning shows..jmo...what does the mother manage her for? I missed that...
sorry if this sounds cold of me but I just hate it when people come out of the woodwork for their 15 minutes of fame when someone else has disappeared...I am becoming skeptical I guess...

http://www.issues.cc/complaints/nancy-grace/nancy-grace-gets-conned-by-mother-daughter-duo-gary-giordano

oh my God Northern! so my hinky was right! thank you for providing that link! sometimes we really do have good instincts about people and we should trust our own judgement..
this mother is despicable!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: labubske on August 19, 2011, 11:55:08 AM
Is anyone getting hinky feelings about that Carrie Emerson? does she have the emails or phone recordings? seems so scripted what she is saying...and I do not find her daughters comment about if that was her she would not have been able to meet Lady Gaga..not funny!  Her daughter did not appear to be someone who required a manager when I saw her on tv..if we are talking about the same girl that was on one of the morning shows..jmo...what does the mother manage her for? I missed that...
sorry if this sounds cold of me but I just hate it when people come out of the woodwork for their 15 minutes of fame when someone else has disappeared...I am becoming skeptical I guess...

http://www.issues.cc/complaints/nancy-grace/nancy-grace-gets-conned-by-mother-daughter-duo-gary-giordano

oh my God Northern! so my hinky was right! thank you for providing that link! sometimes we really do have good instincts about people and we should trust our own judgement..
this mother is despicable!

Same feeling...I first felt that way with the comment about Lady GaGa...and then toward the part where she is saying:
"He really came off as having known my daughter and as having talked to her before. Which I knew he had not. I told him it sounded great and to hold on one second so he could talk to my mom/manager. (This whole time he thought I was my daughter)" the wording seems twisted to me...like she couldn't keep her story straight...does that make sense? If he thought that he was talking to the daughter then how does he act like he has talked to her before?  Wouldn't "daughter" say, I haven't talked to you before?  I don't know maybe it's how I read it.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: labubske on August 19, 2011, 11:57:07 AM
I'm leaning toward Giordano takes nasty pics/videos of girls for profit.  Who does he send them to?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: AZSunny on August 19, 2011, 12:24:40 PM
http://fubar.com/3377664

Thanks Northern.  This photo appears to have been taken in 2009.  Can anyone tell where it is?  We have been wondering how familiar he is with Aruba:
(http://b.pcc4.fubar.com/46/67/3377664/1834397092.jpg)

Klaas,  in my opinion, this looks more like some areas of St. Thomas  (Saphinre Beach area, or that side of St. Thomas) than it does Aruba.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: AZSunny on August 19, 2011, 12:26:39 PM
I'm leaning toward Giordano takes nasty pics/videos of girls for profit.  Who does he send them to?

I agree, I think he is selling porn, probably on line. 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: cadillac on August 19, 2011, 12:35:45 PM
I'm leaning toward Giordano takes nasty pics/videos of girls for profit.  Who does he send them to?

I agree, I think he is selling porn, probably on line. 

Send the CWord to Arooba to help him out?  She needs a job...and we know she can give him one...ewww


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2011, 03:40:18 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/cops-suspect-gary%20giordano-pornographic-images-robyn-gardner-obsession-natalee (http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/cops-suspect-gary%20giordano-pornographic-images-robyn-gardner-obsession-natalee)

After police discovered ” beyond pornographic" pictures of missing ROBYN GARDNER in the camera of suspect Gary Giordano, The ENQUIRER has learned of a startling link to the NATALEE HOLLOWAY case!
 
Prime suspect, Gary Giordano – the last per­son to see pretty Robyn Gardner alive – appears to have sexually targeted blonde women who resembled Natalee.
 
Sources say he offered at least one other a trip to Aruba for some hot and heavy fun in the sun.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: NickandNora on August 19, 2011, 03:56:18 PM
Is anyone getting hinky feelings about that Carrie Emerson? does she have the emails or phone recordings? seems so scripted what she is saying...and I do not find her daughters comment about if that was her she would not have been able to meet Lady Gaga..not funny!  Her daughter did not appear to be someone who required a manager when I saw her on tv..if we are talking about the same girl that was on one of the morning shows..jmo...what does the mother manage her for? I missed that...
sorry if this sounds cold of me but I just hate it when people come out of the woodwork for their 15 minutes of fame when someone else has disappeared...I am becoming skeptical I guess...

http://www.issues.cc/complaints/nancy-grace/nancy-grace-gets-conned-by-mother-daughter-duo-gary-giordano

oh my God Northern! so my hinky was right! thank you for providing that link! sometimes we really do have good instincts about people and we should trust our own judgement..
this mother is despicable!

You're a clever lady to always listen to that hinky meter, Cookie.

I hope the authorities are looking into this so called mother.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 19, 2011, 04:36:57 PM
http://fubar.com/3377664

Thanks Northern.  This photo appears to have been taken in 2009.  Can anyone tell where it is?  We have been wondering how familiar he is with Aruba:
(http://b.pcc4.fubar.com/46/67/3377664/1834397092.jpg)



(http://ipoaa.com/images/image420.gif)
Aruba flag
look at the colors on the house in background




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Kermit on August 19, 2011, 04:54:11 PM
mattackland Matt Ackland
 by Patrick_Madden
Tonight speaking with a woman who wants us to call her "GiGi" She met Gary Giordano on Adultfriendfinder.com.
http://twitter.com/#!/Patrick_Madden
 (http://twitter.com/#!/Patrick_Madden) Edit to add hyperlink tags  MB

Is this Gary Giordano?
If it is he used the name "goodloyaldog" on adultfriendfinder.
Enter at your own risk. Me, I went through bangabus for Natalee so I'm tefflon.

(http://photos8.pop6.com/photo-ffadult-r40-s1-142143241_69906.66847950.gallery.gif)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: AZSunny on August 19, 2011, 05:23:07 PM
mattackland Matt Ackland
 by Patrick_Madden
Tonight speaking with a woman who wants us to call her "GiGi" She met Gary Giordano on Adultfriendfinder.com.
http://twitter.com/#!/Patrick_Madden (http://twitter.com/#!/Patrick_Madden)
Edit to add hyperlink tags MB


Is this Gary Giordano?
If it is he used the name "goodloyaldog" on adultfriendfinder.
Enter at your own risk. Me, I went through bangabus for Natalee so I'm tefflon.

(http://photos8.pop6.com/photo-ffadult-r40-s1-142143241_69906.66847950.gallery.gif)


If that is him, it was taken during a 'skinnier' time!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 19, 2011, 05:44:13 PM
Missing in Aruba ... Case Just Got More Bizarre, Gary Giordano Took Out $1.5 million Policy out on Robyn Gardner before Trip to Aruba & Pornographic Pics

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/19/missing-in-aruba-case-just-got-more-bizzare-gary-giordano-took-out-1-5-million-policy-out-on-robyn-gardner-before-trip-to-aruba-pornagraphic-pics/

Quote
Although many individuals do take out travel insurance before they go on vacation, this one raises some eye brows. You take out an insurance policy on some one, who you barely know, who is not your fiance, girl friend or even acquaintance.The purchasing of a policy almost brings a form of premeditation into Gardner’s death. According to sources, Giordano tried to redeem the accidental death insurance policy.

Do we know if Giordano is a frequent traveler to Aruba? Its one thing for someone like JVDS who had all kinds of help and connections to hide a body, but a tourist? One would think that some one would have seen or heard something. However, what is most striking is the insurance policy. How does one take that out, let alone another person being so stupid to sign it for some one they don't even know.

I keep coming back to the question, why was the Aruba police, prosecution and judge panel not so diligent in the case of Natalee Holloway.

I'm curious about the ex. He hasn't come forward and I find that odd. He was shelling out two grand a month to Robyn plus she got the 2007 Mercedes, $15,000.00 and two more payments of $15,000.00.  Did he know Gary Giordano? or the boyfriend?

KENNEITH G. CARDNER IS 37 YEARS OLD
230 E. 2nd St.
Frederick, MD

Maybe someone can track down if he has a facebook, myspace or twitter account.


KEN GARDNER I'm Ken Gardner, and I've recently relocated to the Orlando area from Maryland, where I worked in residential construction and as a General ...
www.peekyou.com/ken_gardner

Robyn Gardner was supposed to be in Orlando with her parents
http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,20152421,00.html


Body art was a common interest for the couple, who got matching nautical star tattoos on a trip together to Florida.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/18/missing-maryland-woman-hoped-for-a-getaway/?page=2


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Buckeye on August 19, 2011, 05:45:46 PM
Missing in Aruba ... Case Just Got More Bizarre, Gary Giordano Took Out $1.5 million Policy out on Robyn Gardner before Trip to Aruba & Pornographic Pics

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/19/missing-in-aruba-case-just-got-more-bizzare-gary-giordano-took-out-1-5-million-policy-out-on-robyn-gardner-before-trip-to-aruba-pornagraphic-pics/

Quote
Although many individuals do take out travel insurance before they go on vacation, this one raises some eye brows. You take out an insurance policy on some one, who you barely know, who is not your fiance, girl friend or even acquaintance.The purchasing of a policy almost brings a form of premeditation into Gardner’s death. According to sources, Giordano tried to redeem the accidental death insurance policy.

Do we know if Giordano is a frequent traveler to Aruba? Its one thing for someone like JVDS who had all kinds of help and connections to hide a body, but a tourist? One would think that some one would have seen or heard something. However, what is most striking is the insurance policy. How does one take that out, let alone another person being so stupid to sign it for some one they don't even know.

I keep coming back to the question, why was the Aruba police, prosecution and judge panel not so diligent in the case of Natalee Holloway.


Personally, I think the travel policy was probably for $150,000.00 and Aruba screwed up the numbers.  I think he took it out and she signed it to him because he booked the trip and expenses.  He was afraid she might cancel.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: AZSunny on August 19, 2011, 07:44:21 PM
Robyn's ex husband.   35 years of buidling experience?

www.fhba.com/docs/res_KenGardner.doc

I’m Ken Gardner, and I’ve recently relocated to the Orlando area from Maryland, where I worked in residential construction and as a General Contractor for 35 years.
I’m interested in being a construction manager/superintendent.
In Maryland, as a GC, I was involved in all aspects of construction, from the ground up, through the warranty period. I’ve mostly built high-end new custom homes, and have extensive experience in remodeling and renovations. I also have a limited background with production homes and a commercial project.
I’m detail oriented experienced in Microsoft Office and SoftPlan. I have strong management and ‘people’ skills and math and accounting has always been a strong suit.
As another point of reference, and if you’d like, I can forward a slide show of some of the homes I’ve built in Maryland. One home was a designer showcase home for the Anne Arundel Medical Center in Annapolis.
Currently, I am doing home renovations, remodeling, home improvements and home repair in the Northwest Orlando (Apopka) area, where I live.
I am available for interviews and will be glad to view any other opportunities that you may have that might fit my qualifications.
Thank you,
Ken Gardner
407 xxxxxx

KEN GARDNER
2611 Brecca Court
Apopka, Fl. 32712
KenGardner1@aol.com
407xxxxxxxx
Objective:
I’ve recently relocated to the Orlando area from Maryland, and I’m pursuing employment in the construction field in the Orlando area.
Employment:
Lifestyles Custom Homes, LLC.
Westminster, Md. 21158
Project Manager
1999 to August '07
I bring to the table over 35 years of construction experience, mainly in custom homes and also in production homes and condominium projects.
I worked with prospective clients in the preliminary design and estimating aspects of the project. . I controlled the construction process from beginning to completion and through the warranty period. Once the client was under contract, I would acquire any necessary permits. Working with the client has always been a strong suit, and my job during construction was to meet with the client on a regular basis to both review the project and make whatever changes deemed necessary. I have both a framing carpentry and interior carpentry background, which has always been useful in dealing with any construction issues. I have experience in all aspects of residential construction.
Edit to remove telephone  #


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: AZSunny on August 19, 2011, 09:18:20 PM
Missing in Aruba ... Case Just Got More Bizarre, Gary Giordano Took Out $1.5 million Policy out on Robyn Gardner before Trip to Aruba & Pornographic Pics

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/19/missing-in-aruba-case-just-got-more-bizzare-gary-giordano-took-out-1-5-million-policy-out-on-robyn-gardner-before-trip-to-aruba-pornagraphic-pics/

Quote
Although many individuals do take out travel insurance before they go on vacation, this one raises some eye brows. You take out an insurance policy on some one, who you barely know, who is not your fiance, girl friend or even acquaintance.The purchasing of a policy almost brings a form of premeditation into Gardner’s death. According to sources, Giordano tried to redeem the accidental death insurance policy.

Do we know if Giordano is a frequent traveler to Aruba? Its one thing for someone like JVDS who had all kinds of help and connections to hide a body, but a tourist? One would think that some one would have seen or heard something. However, what is most striking is the insurance policy. How does one take that out, let alone another person being so stupid to sign it for some one they don't even know.

I keep coming back to the question, why was the Aruba police, prosecution and judge panel not so diligent in the case of Natalee Holloway.

I'm curious about the ex. He hasn't come forward and I find that odd. He was shelling out two grand a month to Robyn plus she got the 2007 Mercedes, $15,000.00 and two more payments of $15,000.00.  Did he know Gary Giordano? or the boyfriend?

KENNEITH G. CARDNER IS 37 YEARS OLD
230 E. 2nd St.
Frederick, MD

Maybe someone can track down if he has a facebook, myspace or twitter account.


KEN GARDNER I'm Ken Gardner, and I've recently relocated to the Orlando area from Maryland, where I worked in residential construction and as a General ...
www.peekyou.com/ken_gardner

Robyn Gardner was supposed to be in Orlando with her parents
http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,20152421,00.html


Body art was a common interest for the couple, who got matching nautical star tattoos on a trip together to Florida.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/18/missing-maryland-woman-hoped-for-a-getaway/?page=2

How can Ken Gardner be 37 years old and have 35 years experience in construction industry? Is  that the right Gardner?  Do we know he is 37?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Kermit on August 19, 2011, 09:20:15 PM
Sunny,

thank you. Good job pulling up that information.
Sounds like he got hit by the economy and is struggling for work & to reduce and/or omit his alimony to Robyn too.

I just find it odd his being he ex that he hasn't been interviewed at all.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 19, 2011, 09:22:44 PM
Missing in Aruba ... Case Just Got More Bizarre, Gary Giordano Took Out $1.5 million Policy out on Robyn Gardner before Trip to Aruba & Pornographic Pics

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/19/missing-in-aruba-case-just-got-more-bizzare-gary-giordano-took-out-1-5-million-policy-out-on-robyn-gardner-before-trip-to-aruba-pornagraphic-pics/

Quote
Although many individuals do take out travel insurance before they go on vacation, this one raises some eye brows. You take out an insurance policy on some one, who you barely know, who is not your fiance, girl friend or even acquaintance.The purchasing of a policy almost brings a form of premeditation into Gardner’s death. According to sources, Giordano tried to redeem the accidental death insurance policy.

Do we know if Giordano is a frequent traveler to Aruba? Its one thing for someone like JVDS who had all kinds of help and connections to hide a body, but a tourist? One would think that some one would have seen or heard something. However, what is most striking is the insurance policy. How does one take that out, let alone another person being so stupid to sign it for some one they don't even know.

I keep coming back to the question, why was the Aruba police, prosecution and judge panel not so diligent in the case of Natalee Holloway.

I'm curious about the ex. He hasn't come forward and I find that odd. He was shelling out two grand a month to Robyn plus she got the 2007 Mercedes, $15,000.00 and two more payments of $15,000.00.  Did he know Gary Giordano? or the boyfriend?

KENNEITH G. CARDNER IS 37 YEARS OLD
230 E. 2nd St.
Frederick, MD

Maybe someone can track down if he has a facebook, myspace or twitter account.


KEN GARDNER I'm Ken Gardner, and I've recently relocated to the Orlando area from Maryland, where I worked in residential construction and as a General ...
www.peekyou.com/ken_gardner

Robyn Gardner was supposed to be in Orlando with her parents
http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,20152421,00.html


Body art was a common interest for the couple, who got matching nautical star tattoos on a trip together to Florida.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/18/missing-maryland-woman-hoped-for-a-getaway/?page=2

How can Ken Gardner be 37 years old and have 35 years experience in construction industry? Is  that the right Gardner?  Do we know he is 37?

this is what came up with the search on the address where he and Robyn lived as husband & wife.
KENNEITH G. CARDNER IS 37 YEARS OLD
230 E. 2nd St.
Frederick, MD


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 10:37:52 PM
Kenneth Gray Gardner had a traffic violation in June 2011

Defendant Information

Defendant Name:GARDNER, KENNETH GRAY
Address:420 N MARKET ST
City:   FREDERICKState:MDZip Code:21701
Race:WHITE,CAUCASIAN,ASIATIC INDIAN,ARAB
Sex:MHeight:607Weight:265
DOB:01/1974

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=00000006P0CZW&loc=38&detailLoc=DSTRAF


Gardner Building Group‎
420 North Market Street
Frederick, MD 21701-5241
(301) 898-2860

http://www.gardnerbuildinggroup.com/

With a corporate headquarters located in Frederick, Maryland, Gardner Building Group, Inc. provides commercial, residential, government and military building and renovation services to clients across the country. Female owned and Founded in 2009, Gardner Building Group, Inc. is the answer to environmentally conscious individuals, families and companies looking to create spaces that are modern, sustainable and healthy for the environment and the people who utilize the building. Our goal is to protect Earth’s natural environment and the people who live in it by adhering to sustainable building practices and making this world a better place to live now and in the future.

It is through the combined 20 years of experience in all facets of the building industry that Gardner Building Group, Inc. strives to meet the needs of its clients in a more eco-conscious manner. Government, military, commercial and residential consumers mandated or that choose to go green are utilizing the sustainable, innovative, value minded and quality driven construction options that make up the rock-solid foundation on which Gardner Building Group, Inc. stands. Every service and product provided by Gardner Building Group, Inc. complies with local and national sustainable building codes and practices, which is in the best interest of creating a greener Earth.
 ::snipping2::

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/UCC-Charter/DisplayEntity_b.aspx?EntityID=D13236021&EntityName=GARDNER+BUILDING+GROUP+INC.&TabNum=3

Mailing Address
GARDNER BUILDING GROUP INC.
420 N MARKET ST.
FREDERICK, MD 21701
Personal Property Filings
Asmt. Year   Filing Date   Extension   Penalty Amount   Penalty Paid Date
2011   06/15/2011   Yes      
2010   04/15/2010   No      
2009      No      
2008      No      
2007      No      
Personal Property Assessments Summary
Asmt. Year   Date Assessed   County Base   Town Base   Date Certified
2011            
2010   11/03/2010   0    490   11/03/2010
2009            
2008            
2007            
Personal Property Assessments Certification Information
Asmt. Year   Location   County   License   Town   Date Certified
2010   Frederick          490   11/03/10
****             490   
   


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/UCC-Charter/D_Details.aspx?EntityName=GARDNER+BUILDING+GROUP+INC.&EntityId=D13236021&AckNumber=1000361998662195&Page=1

Taxpayer Services Division

Entity Name: GARDNER BUILDING GROUP INC.
Dept ID #: D13236021

Ack #: 1000361998662195

Status:   INCORPORATED
Good Standing:   Yes
Business Code:   Ordinary Business - Stock
Filing Date and Time:   09/16/2009 03:15 PM
Film:   
Folio:   
Pages:   0002
Stock/Nonstock:   Stock
Close/Not Close:   Not Close

Principal Office
420 N MARKET ST.
FREDERICK, MD 21701

Resident Agent
KENNETH GARDNER
420 N MARKET ST.
FREDERICK, MD 21701


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 10:58:56 PM
http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/rp_rewrite/details.aspx?County=11&SearchType=STREET&AccountNumber=02%20257947

Account Identifier:   District - 02 Account Number - 257947
Owner Information
Owner Name:   PETROFF ANDI
Use:   COMMERCIAL/RESIDENTIAL
Principal Residence:   YES
Mailing Address:   420 N MARKET ST
FREDERICK MD 21701-5241   Deed Reference:   1) /07754/ 00207
2)
Location & Structure Information
Premises Address      Legal Description
420 N MARKET ST      LOT 9
0-0000      3,315 SQ. FT.
MAXWELL SQUARE
Map   Grid   Parcel   Sub District   Subdivision   Section   Block   Lot   Assessment Area   Plat No:   
0414   0001   1632      0000         9   2   Plat Ref:   0079/ 0121
Special Tax Areas   Town   FREDERICK CITY
Ad Valorem   104
Tax Class   
Primary Structure Built   Enclosed Area   Property Land Area   County Use
1890   2706   3,315 SF   000000
Stories   Basement   Type   Exterior
2.000000   YES   END UNIT   BRICK
Value Information
Base Value   Value   Phase-in Assessments
As Of
01/01/2011   As Of
07/01/2010   As Of
07/01/2011   
Land   172,300   108,400
Improvements:   346,600   337,500
Total:   518,900   445,900   445,900   445,900
Preferential Land:   0         0
Transfer Information
Seller:   FIRST SAVINGS MORTGAGE CORP.   Date:   03/16/2010   Price:   $375,000
Type:   NON-ARMS LENGTH OTHER   Deed1:    /07754/ 00207   Deed2:   
Seller:   MAXWELL SQUARE, LLC   Date:   03/16/2010   Price:   $594,300
Type:   NON-ARMS LENGTH OTHER   Deed1:    /07754/ 00204   Deed2:   
Seller:   WARNER EAST LIMITED PARTNERSHIP   Date:   05/16/2005   Price:   $144,444
Type:   NON-ARMS LENGTH OTHER   Deed1:    /05356/ 00522   Deed2:   
Exemption Information
Partial Exempt Assessments   Class   07/01/2011   07/01/2012
County         0.00
State         0.00
Municipal         0.00
Tax Exempt:      Special Tax Recapture:
Exempt Class:       * NONE *


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 11:01:38 PM
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andi-Petroff/1126359669


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 11:05:36 PM
http://pages.lightthenight.org/md/WestMD10/GardnerBuildingGroup

 ::snipping2::

Donate to a Team Member
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Erica Aungst
Ken Gardner
Brian Jones
Brittany Lethbridge
Liz Mclaren
Alyssa Petroff
Andi Petroff
Joe Pino
Becky Vieira


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 19, 2011, 11:07:02 PM
Missing in Aruba ... Case Just Got More Bizarre, Gary Giordano Took Out $1.5 million Policy out on Robyn Gardner before Trip to Aruba & Pornographic Pics

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/19/missing-in-aruba-case-just-got-more-bizzare-gary-giordano-took-out-1-5-million-policy-out-on-robyn-gardner-before-trip-to-aruba-pornagraphic-pics/

Quote
Although many individuals do take out travel insurance before they go on vacation, this one raises some eye brows. You take out an insurance policy on some one, who you barely know, who is not your fiance, girl friend or even acquaintance.The purchasing of a policy almost brings a form of premeditation into Gardner’s death. According to sources, Giordano tried to redeem the accidental death insurance policy.

Do we know if Giordano is a frequent traveler to Aruba? Its one thing for someone like JVDS who had all kinds of help and connections to hide a body, but a tourist? One would think that some one would have seen or heard something. However, what is most striking is the insurance policy. How does one take that out, let alone another person being so stupid to sign it for some one they don't even know.

I keep coming back to the question, why was the Aruba police, prosecution and judge panel not so diligent in the case of Natalee Holloway.


Contrary to Joran van der Sloot ... Gary Giordano is not the son of a Dutch elite?  Could it be that this is the reason there is not an agenda within the Aruban investigation to protect Gary Giordano from accountability in regards to his participation in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner ... there is not an agenda an that implies justice will not prevail?

+++++

THEY NEVER WANTED TO IMPLICATE

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 21st
updated 10/23/2005 4:46:55 PM ET


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: They never—they never wanted to implicate these three young men.  They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. ....

<snipped>

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/


THEY DIDN'T WANT TO FIND THE TRUTH

'Scarborough Country' for August 11
updated 8/12/2005 9:33:28 AM ET


<snipped>

GEORGE TWITTY, STEPFATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  ....  Those people that were with me that night, had they taken our statements at least a week after it happened, we would have already had the answer. But when they take my statement 33 days later, and they take the other guys‘ statements that were with me and ladies that were with me, you know, like 19 days later, it‘s like they didn‘t want to find the truth.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8925176/


SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE

<snipped>

NANCY GRACE
Latest in Search for Natalee Holloway
Aired October 4, 2005 - 20:00:00    ET


JUG TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPFATHER:   I had a meeting with Van Der Straaten, who was the police chief in charge at that time. And I went in and sat down with him and told him and Officer Sanboe (ph), who was going to take over for Van Der Straaten. He was there, too.

You know, I asked a question about, I understand that there was a statement made by Joran, where he talks about what he had done to Natalee and he described in very graphic detail, like, the stitching and embroidery and everything on Natalee`s underwear. And he goes, Oh, no, no, no. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Well, little did he know I had just read the statements where Joran describes that to the "T," you know, two days before. But of course, I didn`t tell him that. But that`s just when I started to think something`s wrong here.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 19, 2011, 11:10:32 PM
Not once did Taco Stein, Solicitor General of Aruba publicly express the same outrage  about Joran van der Sloot.  Joran had a history.  Why the double standard?

+++++

DR. DREW
Aired August 18, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MATT LAUER, "THE TODAY SHOW": According to "People" magazine, Mr. Stein, you describe Mr. Giordano in this way -- and they have you quoted here -- "He is a mean bastard." And then the next quote, "The way he treats women, it`s all geared toward himself."

Do you think that that quote coming from you in some ways might be problematic at this stage of the case?

STEIN: Well, I don`t know. I can have an opinion myself about a person. I`m not dealing with the case myself. So my colleagues who will take the case to court will not be biased.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/18/ddhln.01.html



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: AZSunny on August 19, 2011, 11:19:21 PM
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andi-Petroff/1126359669

Texasmom, help me here. What is Andi's involvement??


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 11:22:30 PM
http://www.beenverified.com/p/kenneth+gardner

Kenneth Gray Gardner 37
   
Frederick, MD
Tampa, FL
Ocean City, MD

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=4I00000627&loc=10&detailLoc=DSCR


Defendant Information

Defendant Name:   GARDNER, KENNETH GRAY
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   MHeight:608Weight:220DOB:01/19/1974
Address:   300 26TH ST. #4
City:   OCEAN CITYState:MDZip Code:21842 - 0000


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 11:32:41 PM
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andi-Petroff/1126359669

Texasmom, help me here. What is Andi's involvement??

Not sure yet, except that she is listed as the owner of the address that was listed as Kenneth Gardner's residence in the June 2011 traffic case, in the property records it is listed as her primary residence as well, and it is also the principal office address of the Gardner Building Group according to the corporate records.

I don't know what her relation is to Kenneth Gardner...yet.

Since the Gardner Building Group was noted as a "female owned and founded", I'm wondering if she is a relative of Kenneth Gardner since he is the resident agent in the corporate records?

 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 11:33:28 PM
http://www.beenverified.com/p/kenneth+gardner

Kenneth Gray Gardner 37
   
Frederick, MD
Tampa, FL
Ocean City, MD

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=4I00000627&loc=10&detailLoc=DSCR


Defendant Information

Defendant Name:   GARDNER, KENNETH GRAY
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   MHeight:608Weight:220DOB:01/19/1974
Address:   300 26TH ST. #4
City:   OCEAN CITYState:MDZip Code:21842 - 0000


I should have noted that this case record was from 1994


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 19, 2011, 11:57:54 PM
http://www.angieslist.com/companylist/us/md/frederick/gardner-building-group-inc-reviews-2348031.aspx

Gardner Building Group, Inc.
PO Box 4011
Frederick, MD 21701
(301) 898-2860

http://www.gardnerbuildinggroup.com/

Contact: Kenneth Gardner

Business Description: We are a general contractor specializing in home building and renovations. We have extensive experience in renovations, deck building and home building. As a small, family-owned corporation, we have both the size and versatility to complete a job of any size. We utilize subcontractors we have a close working relationship with. Our subcontractors are all fully licensed and insured. All of our estimates are free of charge.
Services: Decks & Porches, Garage Builders, General Remodeling, Home Builders, Kitchen & Bath Remodeling, Remodeling - Basements, Sunroom & Patio Remodeling
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 ::snipping2::

http://www.oag.state.md.us/Homebuilder/f-g.htm

Gardner Building Group, Inc.   
420 N. Market Street, Frederick, MD 21701   
301-898-2860   

Registration Number   6621   

Expiration Date  12/1/2012



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 12:01:52 AM
http://www.manta.com/g/mtccdm0/andrea-petroff

Andrea Petroff
President

Gardner Building Group Inc
Frederick, MD

Andrea works at:
Gardner Building Group Inc
420 N Market Street
Frederick, MD 21701-5241
map
Frederick, MD Metro Area
Phone: (301) 898-2860
About:
Gardner Building Group Inc in Frederick, MD is a private company which is listed under construction-heavy projects. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $240,000    and employs a staff of 4.





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 01:47:04 AM
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979984796

Robyn Gardner Search attracts Psychic Carla Baron

August 19, 2011 08:55 PM EDT

Psychic Carla Baron was contacted by the boyfriend of missing Maryland woman, Robyn Gardner. This detail comes as a breaking update in this ever-developing case. It seems that while the Aruban authorities are playing this one as quietly as possible, Richard Forester just wants answers. This man is distraught about the disappearance of Robyn Gardner and publicly reached out to the world-renowned psychic profiler for help.

Carla's public fan-page on Facebook shows multiple posts between her and Richard Forester regarding the disappearance of the 35-year-old woman from Maryland. Apparently the two have been in contact with each other since the 12th of August. There is even a public testimonial by Forester where he says:

"Carla... thank u [so] much. U have connected me with my love, best friend and I am truly grateful."

 ::snipping2::

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328?sk=wall


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328?sk=wal

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08192011_CarlaBaron_RobynGardner.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 02:20:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328?sk=wal

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08192011_CarlaBaron_RobynGardner_NataleeHolloway.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 04:11:41 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/81164-expliciete-beelden-slachtoffer-op-camera-giordano

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08182011_Amigoe_RobynGardner-1.jpg)


Quote
Asked whether the FBI on the island, the Advocate-General replied affirmatively. "There is one person from the FBI on the island." This is the FBI agent who is normally stationed in Barbados. "He coordinates the assistance under the Public requests from Aruba to the United States, called a legal attaché. "He is not actively involved in the investigation." Stein does not expect that more FBI agents come to Aruba. He says that in the Kingdom enough "very capable people" who can help the investigation.


The same "very capable people" who investigated Natalee's disappearance?

 ::MonkeyQuestion:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 04:27:00 AM
English version

http://www.amigoe.com/english/81172-explicit-pictures-of-gardner-on-giordanos-camera

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08182011_Amigoe_RobynGardner_EnglishVersion-1.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2011, 09:25:59 AM
Maybe Julie Renfro could reveal to who is the leak from within the Robyn Gardner investigation.  She appears to be this close with someone in the know.

Janet

+++++

REPORT: ‘Beyond Pornographic’ Photos Of Robyn Gardner Found In Suspect’s Digital Camera
Posted on Aug 18, 2011 @ 11:15AM


<snipped> 

Police have also discovered naked photos of Robyn with Giordano on his digital camera, and the pictures are “beyond pornographic,” according to People magazine.

“You only see organs,” Julia Renfro, the editor-in-chief of Aruba Today said, explaining that it was unclear if the acts were consensual. “You don’t know if she is awake. There are other pictures where she is posing naked.”

<snipped>

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/report-beyond-pornographic-photos-robyn-gardner-found-suspect-s-digital-camera


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: klaasend on August 20, 2011, 09:42:47 AM
This is like De Ja Vu.  First they ask for the FBI's assistance, then we are told there is 1 FBI person in Aruba that is not really involved.  Typical Aruban bullshit.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: MuffyBee on August 20, 2011, 09:54:00 AM
This is like De Ja Vu.  First they ask for the FBI's assistance, then we are told there is 1 FBI person in Aruba that is not really involved.  Typical Aruban bullshit.

Yep.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 20, 2011, 10:48:55 AM
This is like De Ja Vu.  First they ask for the FBI's assistance, then we are told there is 1 FBI person in Aruba that is not really involved.  Typical Aruban bullshit.

 ::rhino::

I heard somebody on TV ask "Why on earth would anyone choose Aruba to try to pull something like this with another Blonde female? Didn't he know about Natalee Holloway?" Thankfully, someone else pointed out that the Natalee Holloway case was exactly WHY he chose Aruba! Natalee's case proved that you can get away with murder there!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 20, 2011, 10:58:53 AM
Maybe Julie Renfro could reveal to who is the leak from within the Robyn Gardner investigation.  She appears to be this close with someone in the know.

Janet

+++++

REPORT: ‘Beyond Pornographic’ Photos Of Robyn Gardner Found In Suspect’s Digital Camera
Posted on Aug 18, 2011 @ 11:15AM


<snipped> 

Police have also discovered naked photos of Robyn with Giordano on his digital camera, and the pictures are “beyond pornographic,” according to People magazine.

“You only see organs,” Julia Renfro, the editor-in-chief of Aruba Today said, explaining that it was unclear if the acts were consensual. “You don’t know if she is awake. There are other pictures where she is posing naked.”

<snipped>

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/report-beyond-pornographic-photos-robyn-gardner-found-suspect-s-digital-camera


Julia being "in the know" is a clear indication to me that something's not above board here. Julia is allowed to use her forked tongue to carry out an agenda for that Hellhole Island. Aruba's a pretty place if you could just blow all the corrupt people off of it. The population would certainly go down big time!

Quite a reputation it's carrying.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Aruba: THE hotspot for Murder and Mayhem!


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Helen Back on August 20, 2011, 11:32:01 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/81164-expliciete-beelden-slachtoffer-op-camera-giordano

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08182011_Amigoe_RobynGardner-1.jpg)


Quote
Asked whether the FBI on the island, the Advocate-General replied affirmatively. "There is one person from the FBI on the island." This is the FBI agent who is normally stationed in Barbados. "He coordinates the assistance under the Public requests from Aruba to the United States, called a legal attaché. "He is not actively involved in the investigation." Stein does not expect that more FBI agents come to Aruba. He says that in the Kingdom enough "very capable people" who can help the investigation.


The same "very capable people" who investigated Natalee's disappearance?

 ::MonkeyQuestion:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



The same capable people who impounded Giordano's rental car and then gave it back to the rental company to be cleaned and rented again.  Losing all potential forensic evidence just like in Natalee's disappearance?!??

Im havin' a deja vu all over again!   ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Helen Back on August 20, 2011, 11:49:13 AM
http://www.beenverified.com/p/kenneth+gardner

Kenneth Gray Gardner 37
   
Frederick, MD
Tampa, FL
Ocean City, MD

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=4I00000627&loc=10&detailLoc=DSCR


Defendant Information

Defendant Name:   GARDNER, KENNETH GRAY
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   MHeight:608Weight:220DOB:01/19/1974
Address:   300 26TH ST. #4
City:   OCEAN CITYState:MDZip Code:21842 - 0000


OK this is weird.  Isn't that how Gary Giordano described his "race"?

 ::snipping2::  From page 28 of this thread:
 

Defendant Name:   GIORDANO, GARY VINCENT
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   M Height:601 Weight:200 DOB:05/01/1961
Address:   5921 WILLOW KNOLL DRIVE
City:   ROCKVILLE State:MD Zip Code:20855
Charge and Disposition Information

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::







Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 12:09:08 PM
Assuming for a minute that Robyn is dead.

Anybody really think they're serious about finding her body?

Just how long does it really take to coordinate a search?  Scary thought when you consider...what if she's alive (or was alive two weeks ago)?  Did they ever search for a "live" Robyn?  If they doubted Giordano's story from the getgo, why did they believe from the beginning that she was dead?  Did they not bother with a search, just depending on her to "make herself known" if she was alive?

With the constant wind (not just a breeze people...wind) I wonder how much success can really be expected with cadaver dogs, no matter how good they are.  Does anyone know of a case where a body has been found with cadaver dogs in Aruba?  I can't think of one.

And the longer it takes, the less there will be.

Maybe they're just coordinating the big show?   So they can rave about how hard they tried for years to come when people talk about another unsolved murder of an American citizen on that rock.  But they didn't really try, just like Natalee...it was all just a show to keep the American dollars; they never intended to do anything.

And now another family in Peru grieves because Joran van der Sloot murdered their daughter five years later.


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::



 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 12:11:48 PM
http://www.beenverified.com/p/kenneth+gardner

Kenneth Gray Gardner 37
   
Frederick, MD
Tampa, FL
Ocean City, MD

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=4I00000627&loc=10&detailLoc=DSCR


Defendant Information

Defendant Name:   GARDNER, KENNETH GRAY
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   MHeight:608Weight:220DOB:01/19/1974
Address:   300 26TH ST. #4
City:   OCEAN CITYState:MDZip Code:21842 - 0000


OK this is weird.  Isn't that how Gary Giordano described his "race"?

 ::snipping2::  From page 28 of this thread:
 

Defendant Name:   GIORDANO, GARY VINCENT
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   M Height:601 Weight:200 DOB:05/01/1961
Address:   5921 WILLOW KNOLL DRIVE
City:   ROCKVILLE State:MD Zip Code:20855
Charge and Disposition Information

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


I wondered about those race descriptions as well.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 12:20:18 PM
PLANNING A VACATION IN ARUBA?  NOTE THIS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094961.shtml

Suspicion of Gary Giordano mounts in Aruba

(CBS News)  Aruban investigators have postponed until early next week a massive, island-wide search for Robyn Gardner, saying they needed more time to prepare, reports CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

It's been 18 days since the 35-year-old from Frederick, Md. vanished.

 ::snipping2::

 :gaah:



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Helen Back on August 20, 2011, 12:48:10 PM
PLANNING A VACATION IN ARUBA?  NOTE THIS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094961.shtml

Suspicion of Gary Giordano mounts in Aruba

(CBS News)  Aruban investigators have postponed until early next week a massive, island-wide search for Robyn Gardner, saying they needed more time to prepare, reports CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

It's been 18 days since the 35-year-old from Frederick, Md. vanished.

 ::snipping2::

 :gaah:



Between not examining Giordano's rental car, and taking their sweet ass time to search for Robyn, it's almost as if the Aruba Police are in the business of destroying evidence, or hoping that if they wait long enough it will be destroyed.

It would be interesting to know if they collected any forensic evidence at all from the hotel room, besides Giordano's camera. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2011, 12:48:49 PM
JOY BEHAR SHOW
Aired August 18, 2011 - 22:00   ET


<snipped>

HILL: The Aruban authorities continue investigating.

Beth, when you look at the steps that had been taken. They`ve stopped him. I mean he went passed the Aruban -- sort of arm of law and they were able to bring him back in. Do you get a sense that perhaps they`re doing a better job?

HOLLOWAY: I do. I`m still guarded though and I do hope they prove me wrong and show me what Dutch law can really do with a perpetrator on their island. I am very encouraged so far. So I just want to -- just see how this proceeds.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/18/joy.01.html



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Helen Back on August 20, 2011, 01:06:29 PM

I'm putting on my criminal hat for a moment.

The AD&D policy for 1.5 million, if true, and Giordano's attempt to collect on the policy, if true, indicate pre-meditation for the purpose of monetary gain. 

The porno pics on a camera left in the room, indicate a lack of pre-meditation.  Otherwise, why not get rid of the camera or memory card?

Two things place a person squarely in suspect number one spot until ruled out:  Being the one who reports the person missing, and being the beneficiary on an insurance policy.

If Giordano planned to get rid of Robyn, why not at least book a separate room for her?  Why not just go on to the airport and fly out without reporting her missing?  Why not just leave her a note in the hotel room and ask her to call you when she's back in the USA?  Why try to make a claim on a policy while still in Aruba?

These don't seem like the actions of a person who planned a disappearance.  It's as if this guy intentionally put himself on the radar as a murder suspect.

 ::MonkeyEek::



 



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2011, 01:33:48 PM
This is like De Ja Vu.  First they ask for the FBI's assistance, then we are told there is 1 FBI person in Aruba that is not really involved.  Typical Aruban bullshit.

Never Passed the Ball

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 184: Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute


No Invitation Extended

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words


Kyle Kingman:  The Arubans told us there wasn't anything of interest in the trap based on the visual-only inspection (Dateline and Tim Miller present).
 
Kyle Kingman:  John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word

Kyle Kingman:  Aruban divers deemed the cage to be not case related, and therefore Aruba had no interest in it.  At that point, I made the statement to all on board that we do have an interest and that we would recover the cage ourselves.  That is when Mos said they would dive on it but it would take 1 -2 weeks for a forensics team to arrive and that he would let Persistence know.

Kyle Kingman:  The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.

Kermit/jen3560 - Scared Monkeys

s.t.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 02:53:22 PM
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2011/08/19/behar.holloway.missing.hln

Beth Holloway on missing Aruba woman
Joy Behar|Added on August 19, 2011

Beth Holloway, Natalee Holloway's mother, speaks out on the latest case of a missing woman in Aruba.

The Joy Behar Show - HLN - CNN.com Blogs

 


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 03:05:45 PM
PLANNING A VACATION IN ARUBA?  NOTE THIS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094961.shtml

Suspicion of Gary Giordano mounts in Aruba

(CBS News)  Aruban investigators have postponed until early next week a massive, island-wide search for Robyn Gardner, saying they needed more time to prepare, reports CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

It's been 18 days since the 35-year-old from Frederick, Md. vanished.

 ::snipping2::

 :gaah:



Between not examining Giordano's rental car, and taking their sweet ass time to search for Robyn, it's almost as if the Aruba Police are in the business of destroying evidence, or hoping that if they wait long enough it will be destroyed.

It would be interesting to know if they collected any forensic evidence at all from the hotel room, besides Giordano's camera. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Yes, and remember they've sent some evidence to Curacao...laptop iirc.  Some evidence to Holland... my bet is nothing of value will come from any of it.  Not to say there's not evidence that could have been recovered but I have no confidence in the authorities in Curacao; and very little in those in Holland.

Keep the FBI out of the investigation, drag their feet until there's no recoverable evidence, Giordano waits the required times in KIA until he's eventually released.

No body, no crime.

Even if the US authorities somehow eventually charge Giordano in the US, what will they have for evidence?

Maybe that's the plan?

American's need to remember that when they step off the plane on that rock, they're at their mercy...the US can't help if something bad happens to them.

Aruba sucks.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 03:07:02 PM

I'm putting on my criminal hat for a moment.

The AD&D policy for 1.5 million, if true, and Giordano's attempt to collect on the policy, if true, indicate pre-meditation for the purpose of monetary gain. 

The porno pics on a camera left in the room, indicate a lack of pre-meditation.  Otherwise, why not get rid of the camera or memory card?

Two things place a person squarely in suspect number one spot until ruled out:  Being the one who reports the person missing, and being the beneficiary on an insurance policy.

If Giordano planned to get rid of Robyn, why not at least book a separate room for her?  Why not just go on to the airport and fly out without reporting her missing?  Why not just leave her a note in the hotel room and ask her to call you when she's back in the USA?  Why try to make a claim on a policy while still in Aruba?

These don't seem like the actions of a person who planned a disappearance.  It's as if this guy intentionally put himself on the radar as a murder suspect.

 ::MonkeyEek::



Yep, maybe the real payday comes when the big show is over.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

jmo


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2011, 04:18:55 PM

JOY BEHAR SHOW
Aired August 18, 2011 - 22:00   ET


<snipped>

HILL: ... I know that -- that used to be the case and almost all instances of -- of murder that it was -- you look at the persons who were the closest to that -- to that victim and you usually find the one responsible. But now there seems to be more random crime.

HOLLOWAY: Well, you`re exactly right. There are more random crimes but I still think if you go back to the basics, and when you`re -- when you begin you have to -- you have to have a threshold and -- in a lot of cases, you might have a person of interest that -- who was the last person seen with this individual.
 
<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/18/joy.01.html




NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT
Natalee Holloway Resource Center


Tips for Robyn Gardner case, call: 407-237-2295

http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC.html



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2011, 04:33:51 PM
Gary Giordano



(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e8/c8/e8c81c7f764014d71d763d7212acc49e.jpg)



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
Robyn Gardner


(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/ce/2d/ce2d3d667375e05d765c26d636a4d4b2.jpg)



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Helen Back on August 20, 2011, 04:57:05 PM
PLANNING A VACATION IN ARUBA?  NOTE THIS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094961.shtml

Suspicion of Gary Giordano mounts in Aruba

(CBS News)  Aruban investigators have postponed until early next week a massive, island-wide search for Robyn Gardner, saying they needed more time to prepare, reports CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

It's been 18 days since the 35-year-old from Frederick, Md. vanished.

 ::snipping2::

 :gaah:



Between not examining Giordano's rental car, and taking their sweet ass time to search for Robyn, it's almost as if the Aruba Police are in the business of destroying evidence, or hoping that if they wait long enough it will be destroyed.

It would be interesting to know if they collected any forensic evidence at all from the hotel room, besides Giordano's camera. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Yes, and remember they've sent some evidence to Curacao...laptop iirc.  Some evidence to Holland... my bet is nothing of value will come from any of it.  Not to say there's not evidence that could have been recovered but I have no confidence in the authorities in Curacao; and very little in those in Holland.

Keep the FBI out of the investigation, drag their feet until there's no recoverable evidence, Giordano waits the required times in KIA until he's eventually released.

No body, no crime.

Even if the US authorities somehow eventually charge Giordano in the US, what will they have for evidence?

Maybe that's the plan?

American's need to remember that when they step off the plane on that rock, they're at their mercy...the US can't help if something bad happens to them.

Aruba sucks.

I guess our only hope is if the FBI can find some evidence in his home that they can build a case with. 

The Dutch legal system is so weird.  It 's one of the biggest reasons not to travel to that dump, if you ask me. 

I guess we have those wretched "PV's" to look forward to.  You know the ones where they question the suspect for about 10 days in a row, and they write it up in a two paragraph summary (double-spaced).

I really feel for Robyn and her loved ones.





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Kermit on August 20, 2011, 07:14:35 PM

I'm putting on my criminal hat for a moment.

The AD&D policy for 1.5 million, if true, and Giordano's attempt to collect on the policy, if true, indicate pre-meditation for the purpose of monetary gain. 

The porno pics on a camera left in the room, indicate a lack of pre-meditation.  Otherwise, why not get rid of the camera or memory card?

Two things place a person squarely in suspect number one spot until ruled out:  Being the one who reports the person missing, and being the beneficiary on an insurance policy.

If Giordano planned to get rid of Robyn, why not at least book a separate room for her?  Why not just go on to the airport and fly out without reporting her missing?  Why not just leave her a note in the hotel room and ask her to call you when she's back in the USA?  Why try to make a claim on a policy while still in Aruba?

These don't seem like the actions of a person who planned a disappearance.  It's as if this guy intentionally put himself on the radar as a murder suspect.

 ::MonkeyEek::

I agree with your assessment as well as Gary Giordano might know, being a wealthy guy, he can buy off someone in Aruba is my thinking.
Freebirds were pretty sure that computers they used traced back to gov't/polis.

I find it suspicious the ex-husband who has a court case to modify alimony payments has been absent from interviews about his ex-wife. I am curious if he and Gary Giordano know each other.




Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011
Post by: Kermit on August 20, 2011, 07:21:59 PM
Missing in Aruba ... Case Just Got More Bizarre, Gary Giordano Took Out $1.5 million Policy out on Robyn Gardner before Trip to Aruba & Pornographic Pics

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/19/missing-in-aruba-case-just-got-more-bizzare-gary-giordano-took-out-1-5-million-policy-out-on-robyn-gardner-before-trip-to-aruba-pornagraphic-pics/

Quote
Although many individuals do take out travel insurance before they go on vacation, this one raises some eye brows. You take out an insurance policy on some one, who you barely know, who is not your fiance, girl friend or even acquaintance.The purchasing of a policy almost brings a form of premeditation into Gardner’s death. According to sources, Giordano tried to redeem the accidental death insurance policy.

Do we know if Giordano is a frequent traveler to Aruba? Its one thing for someone like JVDS who had all kinds of help and connections to hide a body, but a tourist? One would think that some one would have seen or heard something. However, what is most striking is the insurance policy. How does one take that out, let alone another person being so stupid to sign it for some one they don't even know.

I keep coming back to the question, why was the Aruba police, prosecution and judge panel not so diligent in the case of Natalee Holloway.

I'm curious about the ex. He hasn't come forward and I find that odd. He was shelling out two grand a month to Robyn plus she got the 2007 Mercedes, $15,000.00 and two more payments of $15,000.00.  Did he know Gary Giordano? or the boyfriend?

KENNEITH G. CARDNER IS 37 YEARS OLD
230 E. 2nd St.
Frederick, MD

Maybe someone can track down if he has a facebook, myspace or twitter account.


KEN GARDNER I'm Ken Gardner, and I've recently relocated to the Orlando area from Maryland, where I worked in residential construction and as a General ...
www.peekyou.com/ken_gardner

Robyn Gardner was supposed to be in Orlando with her parents
http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,20152421,00.html


Body art was a common interest for the couple, who got matching nautical star tattoos on a trip together to Florida.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/18/missing-maryland-woman-hoped-for-a-getaway/?page=2

How can Ken Gardner be 37 years old and have 35 years experience in construction industry? Is  that the right Gardner?  Do we know he is 37?

This lists Kenneth Gardner as being 37 years old and living at the address that is listed in their divorce papers.
What lead me to wonder if that was the same guy moving to Florida was the same named guy says he moved from Maryland recently to Florida and I remember he was someone in construction. Robyn goes to Florida with boyfriend to get matching tattoo's and her parents live there. I would like to find something in this that makes sense or adds up and so far nothing does
which triggers my gut meter.
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Kenneth%20Gardner,%20Frederick,%20MD&g=name_pipl_scd_city01#:4476983661


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 20, 2011, 07:57:41 PM
Is anyone else questioning why she even went to Aruba with this man?

Her roomate said she was a little surprised she did go on this trip after the way he reacted when she had refused the cruise he had offerred to take her on before.

She is 35, has been married before, has a boyfriend..and yet goes on this Aruba trip with a so called platonic friend..what for?

I think she knew that she might be shoot in some semi-nude/ nude pics..and thought the money might be good.  I can find no other reason for her to go with him on a trip...none.  He promised her money and work..that has to be the only reason she would go.  Any halfway savvy woman of 35 knows men do not ask you on a vacation paid in full as a platonic endeavor without some agenda.  She had to have known there would be a catch......or maybe not..and when she didn't comply he murdered her.

I am just reaching ..but I think she thought she would be doing some modeling..even semi nude/ nude modeling...but not that it would involve sex or intercourse or him.  I think that is the way he has suduced some women..the chance of modeling..and then forced himself on them...and then convinced them not to press charges by his own bizarre behavior..although that should be a red light..I think if someone were caught up in it ..it wouldn't be so easy to remove yourself from.

Just trying to ponder her reason for being with him in Aruba...and if he is such a great guy offering a free vacay..how this evolved into a murder..that seems somewhat haphzardly planned.  Was it his plan that if things didn't go his way he would then murder her and try to make it look like an accidental drowning?  Or ..did he know this was how itwould end..was it the end that justified the means..or was it the fact she didn't cooperate that justified the end?  IDK..but I wish I knew if she was the first ons only woman he took on vacy ...cause I am thinking there are others that went with him..did what he wanted and then moved with no forwarding address.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 20, 2011, 08:28:11 PM
I just wanted to clarify by my last post..I am not judging Robyn.  No matter what her understanding was with this jerk before they left for Aruba it does not equate to her death.   Nothing justifies someone killing another person unless they are unless it  is lilled or be killed.   I don't think this was premeditated..even with the insurance policy..I do think he thought he would get more from the relationship and when that didn't happen and she had the goods on him as a perv and rapist..he murdered her.

Yes ..I think he set her up for pics and then raped her ..and she faught back ..and he knew if she lived she would tell the tale of what he realy was.

I don't think this is the first time he has gotten away with rape under the situation of saying he is taking soft porn pics..and I wish those woman would come forward and testify to what he did to them.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 20, 2011, 08:29:41 PM
Again ..sorry  about the typos.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2011, 08:49:40 PM
Is anyone else questioning why she even went to Aruba with this man?

Her roomate said she was a little surprised she did go on this trip after the way he reacted when she had refused the cruise he had offerred to take her on before.

She is 35, has been married before, has a boyfriend..and yet goes on this Aruba trip with a so called platonic friend..what for?

I think she knew that she might be shoot in some semi-nude/ nude pics..and thought the money might be good.  I can find no other reason for her to go with him on a trip...none.  He promised her money and work..that has to be the only reason she would go.  Any halfway savvy woman of 35 knows men do not ask you on a vacation paid in full as a platonic endeavor without some agenda.  She had to have known there would be a catch......or maybe not..and when she didn't comply he murdered her.

I am just reaching ..but I think she thought she would be doing some modeling..even semi nude/ nude modeling...but not that it would involve sex or intercourse or him.  I think that is the way he has suduced some women..the chance of modeling..and then forced himself on them...and then convinced them not to press charges by his own bizarre behavior..although that should be a red light..I think if someone were caught up in it ..it wouldn't be so easy to remove yourself from.

Just trying to ponder her reason for being with him in Aruba...and if he is such a great guy offering a free vacay..how this evolved into a murder..that seems somewhat haphzardly planned.  Was it his plan that if things didn't go his way he would then murder her and try to make it look like an accidental drowning?  Or ..did he know this was how itwould end..was it the end that justified the means..or was it the fact she didn't cooperate that justified the end?  IDK..but I wish I knew if she was the first ons only woman he took on vacy ...cause I am thinking there are others that went with him..did what he wanted and then moved with no forwarding address.

 ::rhino::

Could it be the Gary Giordano had been drugging Robyn Gardner since their arrival on the Island three days earlier ... drugging in a quest for "beyond pornographic" images ... images that Robyn would never consent to?

Could the life insurance policy imply that Gary Giordano planned to murder Robyn Gardner to avoid any backlast from the drugging and the unconsented "beyond pornographic" images?

Could it be that Gary Giordano did not anticipate Aruban authorities challenging his snorkling/drowning story?

Could it be that Gary Giodano and/or Aruban authorities did not anticipate the media to become an issue?  Think about it.  If Robert Forester had not contacted the NHRC would Giodano had caught that plane home to the States and ... the disappearance of Robyn Gardner would have been categorized as an accidental drowning.  Case Closed!

Janet

++++


DR. DREW
Maryland Woman Missing in Aruba
Aired August 10, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S MOTHER: Well, first of all, Richard made the call to the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on August the 8th, which was a great move on his part. We were able to immediately pull together some photos that Richard had given us.

And the biggest asset of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center is that we provide is we send out the media release. And as we al know, media is essential in helping to solicit tips and eyewitnesses. So we got that ball rolling through Richard`s efforts.

PINSKY: And Beth, I must say, it has to bring up all of those old feelings, even just seeing what Richard is going through. Have you been in contact with her family?

HOLLOWAY: I have not been in contact with Robyn`s family. And Richard has been communicating with the staff at the Natalee Holloway Resource Center. So we have just been -- I have just been working with the staff there to coordinate.

PINSKY: Has her family been involved with this?

HOLLOWAY: Her family has -- they have not -- no one at the Natalee Holloway Resource Center has spoken to Robyn`s family. I believe the only two people they have spoken to are the cousin and Richard himself.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ddhln.01.html


Missing in Aruba: Investigators Focus on Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


<snipped>

Surveillance video from local businesses place Giordano and Gardner at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island before Gardner went missing, a law enforcement source told ABC News. Restaurant staff said that Gardner seemed woozy while the two ate; Giordano later told police they'd been drinking vodka at the Marriott before dining, and that she'd taken sleeping pills earlier in the day, the source said.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496

http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-investigators-focus-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496&page=2


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 20, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
NANCY GRACE
Aired August 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

<snipped>

NANCY GRACE, HOST:  ... Now claims emerging Gardner woozy at that lunch, woozy after being given sleeping pills. Who takes sleeping pills before they snorkel? ...

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/17/ng.01.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 20, 2011, 09:45:25 PM
Gathering evidence and searching for Robyn Gardner..Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2x2jtOGkxc&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 20, 2011, 10:08:42 PM
NANCY GRACE
Aired August 17, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

<snipped>

NANCY GRACE, HOST:  ... Now claims emerging Gardner woozy at that lunch, woozy after being given sleeping pills. Who takes sleeping pills before they snorkel? ...

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/17/ng.01.html


Yes Janet..thank you for those links.

I agree it is very plausible he was drugging her to get the shots and sexual action he wanted and that either she still did not comply or she died from an overdse of what he used to drug her.  Either way he is definitely to blame for her death..either he drowned her while she was drugged or drugged her to the point of an overdose and then did away with her body.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 20, 2011, 10:10:23 PM
Vanished in Aruba - Where is Robyn [CNN 8-19-2011]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u2s_-yMnLM

One word to describe Gary Giordano's attitude during interrogations...belligerent

Discussion about the insurance policy...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: cookie on August 20, 2011, 10:11:44 PM
I have no idea why Robyn would have gone anywhere with any guy that she really did not know...especially this one! I wish we knew the answers to that question. The whole thing is just weird.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: klaasend on August 21, 2011, 09:56:30 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx)

 ::snipping2::

A man who was fishing on the beach says Gardner and her companion Gary Giordano left the beach without going in the water.  The witness says the two drove off and didn't return to the beach.

Giordano claims he and Gardner were snorkeling and she disappeared in the water.   Giordano is being held as a suspect in her disappearance. 

Among the reasons he is being held is an insurance policy he purchased on Gardner, that he tried to collect on after her disappearance.   Giordano, who purchased the accidental policy shortly before travelling to the Dutch Caribbean island with the 35-year-old, tried to begin redeeming the American Express policy, which he took out just days before their trip and unusually only covered the trip to Aruba.
According to a police source, Giordano purchased a more expensive one-year policy instead of a more commonly purchased five year policy.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Buckeye on August 21, 2011, 10:31:57 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx)

 ::snipping2::

A man who was fishing on the beach says Gardner and her companion Gary Giordano left the beach without going in the water.  The witness says the two drove off and didn't return to the beach.

Giordano claims he and Gardner were snorkeling and she disappeared in the water.   Giordano is being held as a suspect in her disappearance. 

Among the reasons he is being held is an insurance policy he purchased on Gardner, that he tried to collect on after her disappearance.   Giordano, who purchased the accidental policy shortly before travelling to the Dutch Caribbean island with the 35-year-old, tried to begin redeeming the American Express policy, which he took out just days before their trip and unusually only covered the trip to Aruba.
According to a police source, Giordano purchased a more expensive one-year policy instead of a more commonly purchased five year policy.

 ::snipping2::

Was the fisherman still there when Giordano came back?

Why would it be unusual for a travel policy to only cover the trip?  I thought they were only good for the trip.  What's with one or five years?? Is a "five" year policy more common?   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: seahorse on August 21, 2011, 10:34:56 AM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/author/justice-with-judge-jeanine/

Judge Jeanine is the best host, IMO.

Sometimes she is repeated on Sunday's nights.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Buckeye on August 21, 2011, 10:38:58 AM
This is soooo Aruba.

Taking "insider" secret info and trying to make sense of it.  Why not track down the witness and do a direct quote?  I am tired of the "officials" having to keep info quiet for "the investigation" but leaking innuendo.

If Robyn is on land those wild dogs would have scattered her bones by now.  Maybe that's what they're hoping for.

You know, no area of that island can be searched without a specific lead telling them exactly where to search.  It's probably too late for a tracking dog to start at the restaurant where they were seen.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 21, 2011, 10:52:32 AM
Missing in Aruba … Case Just Got More Bizarre, Gary Giordano Took Out $1.5 million Policy out on Robyn Gardner before Trip to Aruba & Pornographic Pics

Posted August 19, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/08/19/missing-in-aruba-case-just-got-more-bizzare-gary-giordano-took-out-1-5-million-policy-out-on-robyn-gardner-before-trip-to-aruba-pornagraphic-pics/#comments

12.  A Texas Grandfather on August 20th, 2011 5:00 pm

This case is beginning to look like a planned way to collect the insurance proceeds. The suspect hires a woman that is more than likley a high class prostitute who will travel with a client.

He takes her to Aruba where he figures he can get away with a murder without prosecution. He buys an insuranc policy for travel on her life, enjoys a few days of her services and then either sells her or kills her and hides the body. ...

+++++

Robyn Gardner missing: FBI searches Gaithersburg house of Gary Giordano
August 12, 2011 - 02:13 pm


<snipped>
 
Giordano and Gardner, who is from Frederick, Maryland, arrived in Aruba on July 31 and stayed in the same room at a Marriott hotel.

<snipped>

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/08/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba-authorities-believe-gardner-dead-65060_page2.html


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 21, 2011, 10:57:18 AM

Could it be that Gary Giordano did not anticipate Aruban authorities challenging his snorkling/drowning story?

Could it be that Gary Giodano and/or Aruban authorities did not anticipate the media to become an issue?  Think about it.  If Robert Forester had not contacted the NHRC would Giodano had caught that plane home to the States and ... the disappearance of Robyn Gardner would have been categorized as an accidental drowning.  Case Closed!

++++

DR. DREW
Maryland Woman Missing in Aruba
Aired August 10, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S MOTHER: Well, first of all, Richard made the call to the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on August the 8th, which was a great move on his part. We were able to immediately pull together some photos that Richard had given us.

And the biggest asset of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center is that we provide is we send out the media release. And as we al know, media is essential in helping to solicit tips and eyewitnesses. So we got that ball rolling through Richard`s efforts.

PINSKY: And Beth, I must say, it has to bring up all of those old feelings, even just seeing what Richard is going through. Have you been in contact with her family?

HOLLOWAY: I have not been in contact with Robyn`s family. And Richard has been communicating with the staff at the Natalee Holloway Resource Center. So we have just been -- I have just been working with the staff there to coordinate.

PINSKY: Has her family been involved with this?

HOLLOWAY: Her family has -- they have not -- no one at the Natalee Holloway Resource Center has spoken to Robyn`s family. I believe the only two people they have spoken to are the cousin and Richard himself.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ddhln.01.html



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 21, 2011, 01:52:16 PM

Police Reveal 'Bloody Handprint' Evidence In Aruba Mystery Disappearance Doesn't Exist
Posted on Aug 21, 2011 @ 06:00AM


A purported key piece evidence in the mysterious disappearance of missing American woman Robyn Gardner doesn't exist, police have revealed.

Blood was reportedly found on a rock near the restaurant not far from where Gardner and her traveling companion Gary Giordano were last seen together.

PHOTOS: Richard Forester And Robyn Gardner

But Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein said in an interview Saturday night: "The detail about the hand print and blood is not true."

"That is not something that we have found," the Solicitor General said, adding: "Let me put that to rest as that only hinders the investigation."

Speaking to Judge Jeanine Pirro on Fox News' Justice with Judge Jeanine, Stein also shed new light on the graphic photographs that authorities found on Giordano's camera, showing the missing Maryland woman in various sexual positions.

"I'm told there is no sign of duress at all (in the images)," General Stein told Judge Pirro.

One law enforcement source had described the images as "beyond pornographic," though General Stein stopped short of that description.

He said, "Those photos were explicit. That's all I have said and that is all I am going to say. I have not seen the pictures myself."

<snipped>

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/robyn-gardner-aruba-disappearance-no-bloody-handprint-evidence



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 21, 2011, 02:50:36 PM
Not much coming out of the Aruban media, seems newspapers staffs don't work on Sunday mornings. Hopefully this week the DNA will come back, and Robyn will be found. That way the case will no go unsolved, as Natalee's was.

I read somewhere that if after 16 days nothing is found and the police wants to keep Gary for a longer period of time, the judge can order another 60 days. Hopefully that is true.

I am still curious about he shooting porno pictures with her or other women before. The reason I can see of him taking her pictures before killing her is to have proof that their relationship was sexual, and that if the other boyfriend wanted to contest the insurance inquest saying Gary and Robyn were not living together or having a relationship, that the photos would prove otherwise. Then again, he could just be a pervert.

I found myself shaking my head yesterday, visualizing Gary contacting the AE Insurance carrier and saying, "excuse me, my girlfriend went missing two days ago and I want to know how can I collect on her life insurance policy you sold me last week"...

... just like Shapiro and Kardashian submitting a motion to Judge Ito to return OJ's expensive leather gloves.

 ::boxingbaez2::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 03:04:29 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/witness-disputes-gary-giordanos-claims-case-missing-woman/story?id=14350220

New Witness Disputes Gary Giordano's Claims in Case of Missing Woman in Aruba

By OLIVIA KATRANDJIAN
Aug. 21, 2011

As Aruba authorities question Gary Giordano in the disappearance of his traveling companion American Robyn Gardner, a new witness has disputed his account of what happened the day Gardner disappeared.

Giordano's account is based on his claim that he and Gardner had gone snorkeling the day she disappeared, but the witness disputes those claims.

The witness says he was fishing on a beach on that day and he saw the two take a walk along the reef around 4 p.m., but they never went in the water.

A short time later, the couple drove away and he never saw either of them again, the witness says.


"If this witness ends up being accurate and correct as to locations of both Mr. Giordano and Ms. Gardner, it's yet another piece of evidence that's inconsistent with his story," said ABC News consultant Brad Garrett, a former FBI agent.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 03:06:09 PM
Video of Gary Giordano without his hairpiece at the link I just posted.

Screen shot coming up!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: cookie on August 21, 2011, 03:11:18 PM
Video of Gary Giordano without his hairpiece at the link I just posted.

Screen shot coming up!   ::MonkeyWink::

Ha! bet he hates that !


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 03:19:36 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::

http://abcnews.go.com/International/witness-disputes-gary-giordanos-claims-case-missing-woman/story?id=14350220

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08212011_Giordanowithouthairpiece1.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08212011_Giordanowithouthairpiece2.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 21, 2011, 03:20:39 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx)

 ::snipping2::

A man who was fishing on the beach says Gardner and her companion Gary Giordano left the beach without going in the water.  The witness says the two drove off and didn't return to the beach.

Giordano claims he and Gardner were snorkeling and she disappeared in the water.   Giordano is being held as a suspect in her disappearance. 

Among the reasons he is being held is an insurance policy he purchased on Gardner, that he tried to collect on after her disappearance.   Giordano, who purchased the accidental policy shortly before travelling to the Dutch Caribbean island with the 35-year-old, tried to begin redeeming the American Express policy, which he took out just days before their trip and unusually only covered the trip to Aruba.
According to a police source, Giordano purchased a more expensive one-year policy instead of a more commonly purchased five year policy.

 ::snipping2::

Considering the "beyond pornographic" images did not indicate illegal wrongdoing  and ... the bloody handprint has been revealed a rumor ... the observation of this witness and ... the existence of the life insurance policy gives me guarded optimism that justice may prevail for Robyn Gardner.

Janet


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 03:22:37 PM
Video of Gary Giordano without his hairpiece at the link I just posted.

Screen shot coming up!   ::MonkeyWink::

Ha! bet he hates that !


The other inmates have probably been giving him hell about those wigs in KIA.   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Buckeye on August 21, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/witness-disputes-gary-giordanos-claims-case-missing-woman/story?id=14350220

New Witness Disputes Gary Giordano's Claims in Case of Missing Woman in Aruba

By OLIVIA KATRANDJIAN
Aug. 21, 2011

As Aruba authorities question Gary Giordano in the disappearance of his traveling companion American Robyn Gardner, a new witness has disputed his account of what happened the day Gardner disappeared.

Giordano's account is based on his claim that he and Gardner had gone snorkeling the day she disappeared, but the witness disputes those claims.

The witness says he was fishing on a beach on that day and he saw the two take a walk along the reef around 4 p.m., but they never went in the water.

A short time later, the couple drove away and he never saw either of them again, the witness says.


"If this witness ends up being accurate and correct as to locations of both Mr. Giordano and Ms. Gardner, it's yet another piece of evidence that's inconsistent with his story," said ABC News consultant Brad Garrett, a former FBI agent.
 ::snipping2::


Well, since Gary was at the beach when he called then maybe the fisherman did not see him or see them.  It would be important to know if he returned alone.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 03:47:56 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/witness-disputes-gary-giordanos-claims-case-missing-woman/story?id=14350220

New Witness Disputes Gary Giordano's Claims in Case of Missing Woman in Aruba

By OLIVIA KATRANDJIAN
Aug. 21, 2011

As Aruba authorities question Gary Giordano in the disappearance of his traveling companion American Robyn Gardner, a new witness has disputed his account of what happened the day Gardner disappeared.

Giordano's account is based on his claim that he and Gardner had gone snorkeling the day she disappeared, but the witness disputes those claims.

The witness says he was fishing on a beach on that day and he saw the two take a walk along the reef around 4 p.m., but they never went in the water.

A short time later, the couple drove away and he never saw either of them again, the witness says.


"If this witness ends up being accurate and correct as to locations of both Mr. Giordano and Ms. Gardner, it's yet another piece of evidence that's inconsistent with his story," said ABC News consultant Brad Garrett, a former FBI agent.
 ::snipping2::


Well, since Gary was at the beach when he called then maybe the fisherman did not see him or see them.  It would be important to know if he returned alone.

I keep wondering if there's anything to this...would they just make it up?   ::MonkeyConfused::

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/17/ng.01.html

 ::snipping2::

Also, video surveillance emerges, Giordano fumbling around behind the restaurant for several minutes before he goes in to try to report her missing. Now, how does that jive with initial reports that he approached a couple, an unknown couple on the beach, asking them to call 911? How many people did he ask to call 911? And why was he making such a spectacle of looking for her?

 ::snipping2::

GRACE: I want to go through the timeline, Alexis Weed.

He`s having lunch at rum reef with Gardner, who he tells people has taken - she`s taken sleeping pills. That`s around 4:00 in the afternoon. Fast-forward, they have lunch, they`re both bone dry, with no snorkel gear to be seen. At 6:02, just two hours later, he appears where on surveillance video, Alexis.

ALEXIS WEED, PRODUCER, NANCY GRACE SHOW: Right, Nancy, we`re hearing through ABC news that he appears on this surveillance video at 6:02, he`s behind the restaurant where they had that meal and he`s knocking on some shutters on the back of that restaurant, he then at 6:20 is heads to the kitchen, the back kitchen of the restaurant and says to someone there that they need to call police.

GRACE: Well, how does that jive, Martin Savidge? Joining us from Aruba, with the initial reports that he approaches an anonymous couple on the beach begging to use their cell phone at 6:30 to report her missing, that she`s drifted out to sea, Martin.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, here is how that can go down. First of all, the way that ABC describes all the cameras is not possible because we walked around the place. There are six cameras at the front of the facility. There are none at the back of this facility. So you can`t see what`s going on behind the restaurant.

That restaurant also closes between 5:00 and 5:30. We double-checked that today. So at 6:30, if he had gone there, there was no one there. That`s why he may appear to be rattling on doors or knocking on things. There is no one there at that time. It is closed, which could be why he then may have gone to the beach to get a phone there. The question is why didn`t he have a phone?

GRACE: Tell people in the kitchen to call 911. But that makes sense, Martin Savidge. That makes absolute sense.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 21, 2011, 04:08:08 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Robyn-Gardner-latest-New-witness-delayed-search/ySXn08_AXEm_iLWUjq9CkQ.cspx)

 ::snipping2::

A man who was fishing on the beach says Gardner and her companion Gary Giordano left the beach without going in the water.  The witness says the two drove off and didn't return to the beach.

Giordano claims he and Gardner were snorkeling and she disappeared in the water.   Giordano is being held as a suspect in her disappearance. 

Among the reasons he is being held is an insurance policy he purchased on Gardner, that he tried to collect on after her disappearance.   Giordano, who purchased the accidental policy shortly before travelling to the Dutch Caribbean island with the 35-year-old, tried to begin redeeming the American Express policy, which he took out just days before their trip and unusually only covered the trip to Aruba.
According to a police source, Giordano purchased a more expensive one-year policy instead of a more commonly purchased five year policy.

 ::snipping2::

Considering the "beyond pornographic" images did not indicate illegal wrongdoing  and ... the bloody handprint has been revealed a rumor ... the observation of this witness and ... the existence of the life insurance policy gives me guarded optimism that justice may prevail for Robyn Gardner.

Janet


Then again ... security cameras indicated that Joran, Deepak and Satish lied regarding the last time they were with Natalee Holloway just prior to her disappearance and ... they were never held accountable for any participation regarding the happenings encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005.

Janet

+++++

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 120:  Natalee never returned to the Holiday Inn. We had seen the tapes with a room full of police officials.  These two security guards also do not appear on the Holiday Inn security videos that we were shown.  So why these arrests?  Islanders are outraged.  And so are we.  It’s blatant discrimination.

Page 182:  Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.   And we are the last ones to find out.


NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT

Loving Natalee


http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 05:19:49 PM
http://www.oprahnyc.com/arubamurdersuspect.htm

 ::snipping2::

Video shows the pair at the Rum Beef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island where Ms Gardner went missing.

Restaurant staff have told investigators that the woman seemed woozy while they ate.

Surveillance footage also shows Giordano in his rental car at the back of the restaurant, but the car had tinted windows so no one else in the vehicle can be seen.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Buckeye on August 21, 2011, 05:28:41 PM
http://www.oprahnyc.com/arubamurdersuspect.htm

 ::snipping2::

Video shows the pair at the Rum Beef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island where Ms Gardner went missing.

Restaurant staff have told investigators that the woman seemed woozy while they ate.

Surveillance footage also shows Giordano in his rental car at the back of the restaurant, but the car had tinted windows so no one else in the vehicle can be seen.

Yet CNN says there are no cameras in the back.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 06:38:41 PM
http://www.oprahnyc.com/arubamurdersuspect.htm

 ::snipping2::

Video shows the pair at the Rum Beef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of the island where Ms Gardner went missing.

Restaurant staff have told investigators that the woman seemed woozy while they ate.

Surveillance footage also shows Giordano in his rental car at the back of the restaurant, but the car had tinted windows so no one else in the vehicle can be seen.

Yet CNN says there are no cameras in the back.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

It seems odd to me, with the location and considering the crime in Aruba that they would have multiple surveillance cameras in front, but none in back?  If there are no doors or windows on the back of the building I might understand it, but in Aruba the thieves often go in from the roof, so it still puzzles me that if they're going to have surveillance, they wouldn't have cameras on the entire building.  JADS runs both places from my understanding, and with their inventory (especially the dive equip and liquor) and the remote location; surveillance makes sense.

jmo



Maybe they don't always close early?

http://www.facebook.com/jadsaruba/posts/112214588799470

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Anna on August 21, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
PLANNING A VACATION IN ARUBA?  NOTE THIS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094961.shtml

Suspicion of Gary Giordano mounts in Aruba

(CBS News)  Aruban investigators have postponed until early next week a massive, island-wide search for Robyn Gardner, saying they needed more time to prepare, reports CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

It's been 18 days since the 35-year-old from Frederick, Md. vanished.

 ::snipping2::

 :gaah:



Between not examining Giordano's rental car, and taking their sweet ass time to search for Robyn, it's almost as if the Aruba Police are in the business of destroying evidence, or hoping that if they wait long enough it will be destroyed.

It would be interesting to know if they collected any forensic evidence at all from the hotel room, besides Giordano's camera. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::




American Bud Larson who also went missing in Aruba had his wallet found between the sofa cushions by the next people to rent his room.

Typical Aruban investigation it seems.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 07:22:09 PM
I think these pictures are from behind the dive center and restaurant...I've cropped some of them.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150315135231183.439795.41771906182

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/JADS_RUMREEF_back02-1.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/JADS_RUMREEF_back04.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/JADS_RUMREEF_back05.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/JADS_RUMREEF_back07-1.jpg)





Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 07:29:59 PM
You will need to scroll over to see the whole picture.  I think the part I put the red square around could be an abandoned part of the old Nanki Club?

I've read about that somewhere recently...

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150315135231183.439795.41771906182

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/JADS_RUMREEF_back09.jpg)

I think the building in the background in this shot could be a continuation of what's seen in the picture above.

jmo

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/JADS_RUMREEF_back08.jpg)



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 07:38:17 PM
PLANNING A VACATION IN ARUBA?  NOTE THIS!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/20/earlyshow/saturday/main20094961.shtml

Suspicion of Gary Giordano mounts in Aruba

(CBS News)  Aruban investigators have postponed until early next week a massive, island-wide search for Robyn Gardner, saying they needed more time to prepare, reports CBS News Correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

It's been 18 days since the 35-year-old from Frederick, Md. vanished.

 ::snipping2::

 :gaah:



Between not examining Giordano's rental car, and taking their sweet ass time to search for Robyn, it's almost as if the Aruba Police are in the business of destroying evidence, or hoping that if they wait long enough it will be destroyed.

It would be interesting to know if they collected any forensic evidence at all from the hotel room, besides Giordano's camera. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::




American Bud Larson who also went missing in Aruba had his wallet found between the sofa cushions by the next people to rent his room.

Typical Aruban investigation it seems.

Yes, it does seem that way.  More and more every day...sad for Robyn's loved ones.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Titch on August 21, 2011, 08:01:31 PM
Hi monkeys!  ::HelloKitty::

Thank you Klaas for moving Robyn to the high profile section. Lemme catch up & see what I missed, that way I won't duplicate anything.

Not to sound condescending but this story just gets creepier & creepier. I'm not sure of the sub-threads, like how to list them, but I'm thinking 1 for photos, 1 for social media, 1 for who's who, 1 for legal docs...or has this already been done? I'm an idiot to miss a couple days & hop right in without double-checking! Good gosh!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: klaasend on August 21, 2011, 08:03:11 PM
I knew I remembered something about a psychic from back in 2007.  If I remember Nanki due to this old article could Gary Giordano also have remembered?
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/6067612782_24db9e9606_o.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6076/6067612816_e089175cf2_o.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/6067612848_b1c4df68dc_o.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 08:25:49 PM
My mind has been racing with possibilities since I've seen the back of those buildings and how secluded some areas are.

IMO, they were in this area for a reason, and it wasn't to snorkel.

If they stayed at the Renaissance as most MSM is reporting, or at the Marriott Aruba Resort and Stellaris Casino as some have reported; they drove 15-20 miles to get there.  Past many beaches and restaurants, many better snorkeling areas.

They drove practically from one end of the island to the other, if they were staying at the Aruba Marriott; approximately five miles less if the Renaissance...and Robyn vanishes.

Why?

I hope I have these right, I am not a map person.   :2doh:

Google Earth Maps

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Map01.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Map02.jpg)

Proximity to Venezuela and Curacao.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Map03.jpg)



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 08:37:12 PM
I knew I remembered something about a psychic from back in 2007.  If I remember Nanki due to this old article could Gary Giordano also have remembered?
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/6067612782_24db9e9606_o.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6076/6067612816_e089175cf2_o.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/6067612848_b1c4df68dc_o.jpg)

Papiamentu translation of the titles

according clarividente natalee holloway will is bury behind nanki club

natalee holloway his soul is behind nanki club

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=785.msg112630#msg112630

Klaas Posted:

Quote
The above article from Awemainta ran through the Pap translator:

till still the name natalee holloway is sound constantemente at merca. esta the child muher mericano cu owing to come of vacacion at aruba y on his ultimo day owing to desaparece misteriosamente without let rastro behind. sospecha of autoridadnan is cu the do not at life more. sinembargo the curpa or algo cu is indica cu the do not life more, not owing to being achieve never after of his desaparicion on 30 of half, 2005. informacion cu awemainta owing to ricibi is cu have one clarividente, one person of edad end, cu owing to know visit aruba regularly. y one of the lugarnan cu the likes go relaha is at baby beach. at three occasion end the clarividente here, that his name not owing to being suministra at awemainta, will owing to indica at personanan cu is work at the beach, cu the is feel cierto vibracionnan pisa cu have of haber cu the child muher natalee holloway. y the vibracionnan here is indica cu the child muher is (dera) behind nanki club, esta the part cu is stay for sea. the is believe cu the will is one pista for autoridadnan yet haci one investigacion ey slow.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
Klaas,

RE Gary Giordano knowing about it, IMO anyone could have seen it here.  Your screen shots wouldn't have gone poof until recently...


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: klaasend on August 21, 2011, 09:05:23 PM
Klaas,

RE Gary Giordano knowing about it, IMO anyone could have seen it here.  Your screen shots wouldn't have gone poof until recently...

Right and I mean from the Psychic.  If I remember correctly it was also in the Enquirer or Globe


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: klaasend on August 21, 2011, 09:10:22 PM
Arm Bone was in Punto Fijo

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6189/6067822864_70ea647729_b.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6067278229_50def13ebc_o.jpg)



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Titch on August 21, 2011, 09:24:25 PM
Holy cow. Still catching up. Giordano doesn't look too good right about now. Bug I'm wondering if Forester is as good as he perceives. What about Gardner? Have we figured out the correct Kenneth Gardner?

There's several social networking / adult friend finder sites that I came across last week that have connections to Robyn & Gary.

Also, why does the media keep reporting that Robyn went to Aruba with a man she barely knew? That's not true! Not in the least! She saw him off & on, she might have just hidden some of the jucier details from her boyfriend.

I think she was playing them both or else maybe she was involved in something shady, like paid dating.

Oh, one more thing, why is the "race" for Gardner & Giordano listed the way it is on their police records?


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Titch on August 21, 2011, 09:41:51 PM
On the 17th I copied the fb wall of Missing Robyn Gardner. It had some pretty interesting info in it, some of which has been deleted. Alot of the disparaging remarks turned out to be true. Here's the link to the full post:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11999.msg1463482#msg1463482


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Titch on August 21, 2011, 10:00:04 PM
It's been said on the net that Giordano was sneaky & utilized s keylogging program to monitor unsuspecting women, so he could crack their online account activities & get "into their heads". Here's some basic background info on keylogging for those that may not be familiar with the term. Please know that this is more popular than most may think. This is exactly why one should be careful with their online activities, most especially their banking & investments. Again, this is just general & the quickest link is from Wiki (but it's pretty much on target with explanation):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 10:27:32 PM
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Ken/Gardner

Kenneth Gardner

CEO at Gardner Building Group, Inc.

Washington D.C. Metro Area Construction

Current
CEO at Gardner Building Group, Inc.

Past
Division president at Dan Ryan Builders

Senior Vice President of Operations at KB Home, LLC

Outside Sales at NVR, Inc.

Education
University of Phoenix
University of Phoenix
Shepherd University
see all

Recommendations
4 people have recommended Kenneth

Connections
151 connections

Websites
Gardner Building Group, Inc.
Kenneth Gardner's Summary

Enthusiastic, profit-driven senior executive. Experienced in managing over $100 million of assets. Able to enhance operational and financial results. Proficient in growing revenue and streamlining processes to maximize profitability and return on assets. Serve as change agent for improved efficiency and greater utilization of human capital to drive productivity. Have established track record of producing sustained revenue and EBITDA growth in dynamic and changing markets. Entrepreneurial perspective helps drive innovative business strategies . Able to lead motivated and focused teams that embrace corporate objectives. Have developed operations management background in homebuilding, construction, materials, and manufacturing industries.

Specialties

• Continuous Process Improvement
• Contracts Procurement
• Customer Service & Satisfaction
• Fluent in Spanish
• High-Dollar Negotiations
• Leadership Development
• New Market Penetration
• Merchandising/Advertising Strategies
• P&L Management/Budget Planning
• Product Development & Pricing
• Strategic Partnerships & Alliances
• Revenue & Profit Growth
• Sales & Marketing Leadership
• Six Sigma Black Belt
• Statistical Modeling
• Land Acquisition
• Technology Utilization

Kenneth Gardner's Experience

CEO
Gardner Building Group, Inc.
Privately Held; Construction industry
August 2009 – Present (2 years 1 month)

Gardner Building Group, Inc. is a Maryland based sustainable commercial and residential building / renovation company. Gardner Building Group, Inc.'s mission is to create innovative and environmentally conscious commercial and residential spaces. The goal of Gardner Building Group, Inc. is to protect the earth's natural environment and deliver a product that is value minded and on-time. We are committed to a practical, affordable, and personal approach. Our principles are reflected in our dedication to customer satisfaction, quality, value, and integrity. With the environment in crisis, Gardner Building Group, Inc. is acting now to help save tomorrow.

Division president
Dan Ryan Builders
Privately Held; Construction industry
May 2006 – August 2009 (3 years 4 months)

•Division President, overseeing divisions in WV &VA that produce up to 175 units (down from 300) of single- and multi-family homes annually. Report directly to COO.
• Manage staff of 50 building professionals, including VP of Production, General Sales & Marketing Mgr., Office Director, VP of Purchasing; dotted line management over the Director of Land, and Director of Finance.
• Accountable for operational and financial performance, as well as strategic planning, budgeting, forecasting, personnel development, site/land identification, acquisition and development, product development, value engineering, marketing, sales, procurement, production, customer service, etc.
• Reduced overhead costs, decreased cycle times, maintained profitable gross margin in depressed economy

Senior Vice President of Operations
KB Home, LLC
Public Company; Real Estate industry
January 2005 – May 2006 (1 year 5 months)

Directed staff of 250 building professionals as well as VP of Construction, Purchasing, Director of Customer Service, for division that produced over 1,100 units annually.
• Accountable for operational and financial performance, as well as human resources, information technology, purchasing, strategic planning, budgeting, forecasting, and sales and marketing.
• Reduced cycle times by monitoring and managing production, construction and delivery activities.

Boosted JD Powers customer-satisfaction rating

Outside Sales
NVR, Inc.
Public Company; 1001-5000 employees; NVR; Construction industry
1998 – 2004 (6 years)

Kenneth Gardner's Education

University of Phoenix
MBA, Business
2005 – 2007

University of Phoenix
Bachelor of Science, Business Managemen
2002 – 2005

Shepherd University
1994 – 1995

Mount Saint Mary's College
Business
1992 – 1994

Kenneth Gardner's Additional Information

Websites:
Gardner Building Group, Inc.
Groups and Associations:
United States Green Building Council

 ::snipping2::

(More info at the link)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.danryanbuilders.com/about-us/news-and-press-details.cfm?news_id=111

April 10, 2008 — Dan Ryan Builders donates land to Habitat for Humanity

Habitat for Humanity NEWS ALERT

 ::snipping2::

“We are thrilled to be able to support such a worthwhile program.  This is just one way we put into action our mission of making the dream of home ownership a reality for as many as possible,” stated, Martinsburg Division President Ken Gardner.

 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/KenGardner2008.jpg)

http://danryanbuilders.blogspot.com/2007/12/dan-ryan-builders-gives-to-united-way.html

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2007

Dan Ryan Builders Gives to United Way

Ken Gardner, Martinsburg Division President of Dan Ryan Builders attended a campaign progress review meeting of the United Way of the Eastern Panhandle to announce that they would be making a $25,000 donation to the 2007-08 fund drive. Gardner said that “We at Dan Ryan Builders are very excited that we are able to continue our support of the United Way in this down turn of the housing market. It’s a great feeling for all of us to give back to the community.”
 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/KenGardner_right_2007.jpg)


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Titch on August 21, 2011, 10:35:23 PM
You guys might already have this but if not here's the link:

http://www.realitywanted.com/robynlgardner


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Helen Back on August 21, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
It's been said on the net that Giordano was sneaky & utilized s keylogging program to monitor unsuspecting women, so he could crack their online account activities & get "into their heads". Here's some basic background info on keylogging for those that may not be familiar with the term. Please know that this is more popular than most may think. This is exactly why one should be careful with their online activities, most especially their banking & investments. Again, this is just general & the quickest link is from Wiki (but it's pretty much on target with explanation):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging

I pity the fool that puts a keylogger on my computer.....I'm a TERRIBLE typist!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
would make somebody NUTS!

Thanks, Titch.  Hey I wonder if that's why Sogeti was an "interested party" in Gary Giordano's divorce?  Maybe he used something he had access to through his employment with Sogeti to keep tabs on his wife?  I dunno, it's been bugging me why his employer would be an interested party in a divorce proceeding.

Anyway, looks like you guys have been hard at work, as usual.  Great info you have gathered.

TM and Klaas, the maps and pictures of Nanki are making me feel sick all over again.  That is the last part of the island where some tourists would go snorkeling.  I forgot how isolated and scrubby looking it is.  But certainly not very far to Venezuela! 

Wonder how that false info about a bloody handprint got started and topped the headlines last week.  How easily the Aruban Police gloss over it a week later, and say it's not true.  Here we go again with the leaks, false info, innuendo.   

 :2brickwall:

Maybe tomorrow we will get some news.  My thoughts are with Robyn and her loved ones.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 11:28:22 PM
http://www.danryanbuilders.com/about-us/news-and-press-details.cfm?news_id=11

April 25, 2007 — Dan Ryan Builders Donates to the Eastern West Virginia Community Foundation

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Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 21, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
It's been said on the net that Giordano was sneaky & utilized s keylogging program to monitor unsuspecting women, so he could crack their online account activities & get "into their heads". Here's some basic background info on keylogging for those that may not be familiar with the term. Please know that this is more popular than most may think. This is exactly why one should be careful with their online activities, most especially their banking & investments. Again, this is just general & the quickest link is from Wiki (but it's pretty much on target with explanation):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging

I pity the fool that puts a keylogger on my computer.....I'm a TERRIBLE typist!   ::MonkeyHaHa::
would make somebody NUTS!

Thanks, Titch.  Hey I wonder if that's why Sogeti was an "interested party" in Gary Giordano's divorce?  Maybe he used something he had access to through his employment with Sogeti to keep tabs on his wife?  I dunno, it's been bugging me why his employer would be an interested party in a divorce proceeding.

Anyway, looks like you guys have been hard at work, as usual.  Great info you have gathered.

TM and Klaas, the maps and pictures of Nanki are making me feel sick all over again.  That is the last part of the island where some tourists would go snorkeling.  I forgot how isolated and scrubby looking it is.  But certainly not very far to Venezuela! 

Wonder how that false info about a bloody handprint got started and topped the headlines last week.  How easily the Aruban Police gloss over it a week later, and say it's not true.  Here we go again with the leaks, false info, innuendo.   

 :2brickwall:

Maybe tomorrow we will get some news.  My thoughts are with Robyn and her loved ones.



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: about the keylogger!

Remember, Giordano was a computer science major...he's into all that stuff.  He probably wrote his own programs...scary!  Well, not really I guess when I think of all the other stuff he must be into. 

Time for a shower!   ::MonkeyEek::

I guess we'll see if the massive search starts tomorrow.  Not holding my breath.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

It has taken too long, they make me sick!

The bloody hand print and "not used" condom and wrapper will haunt us all until the truth is known I guess...if the truth is ever known that is.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Helen Back on August 22, 2011, 12:02:27 AM

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  flunked typing in HS the first time!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Well, that's prolly not the Sogeti connection, but why would they be an interested party in a divorce? 

Nearly three weeks since Robyn disappeared.  Where are the dogs?!?

Why does anyone go there?  Aruba sucks.



Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: texasmom on August 22, 2011, 12:39:09 AM
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

8/22/2011 Awe Mainta Page 7


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Papiamentu translation:

ministerio publico is nothing contento cu lekmento of informacion owing to descubri potretnan comprometedor (compromising) on camara of gary giordano

not owing to stay vocero of ministerio publico in caso of desaparicion of the lady mericano, robyn gardner, advocate general mr. taco stein is confirma cu on the camara of the sospechoso, gary giordano, cu owing to being take in beslag owing to descubri potretnan comprometedor (compromising).

in some another medio of prensa, even is being tell, cu is deal of potretnan of posicionnan pornografico.

advocate mr. taco stein owing to confirma d "descubrimento" here, but does not owing to bay in detayes, y owing to give of conoce of is lamenta the leakmento of informacion here.

but the lekmento here, have to being busca in own seno of ministerio publico y of the team of investigadornan, because another not can. thing have to being investiga, cu esun cu owing to haci this, if past owing to haci this contra payment, thing can being cuestiona after, already cu the will can form one obstaculo in the investigacion.

of acuerdo cu people magazine, is for of one fountain policial, owing to achieve owing to potretnan comprometedor (compromising) here, y cu is being tell, cu is more cu simple potretnan pornografico. mr. taco stein not know for of where all the informacionnan here owing to leave.

his prioridad is, for soluciona the caso here, y not lose atencion for know that (nan) can owing to contribui at suminstra informacion for some medio, foreigner.

the investigacion is follow cu more acute, because if not achieve sufficient proof, then will have to let the sospechoso in freedom y consecuentemente will go back merca.


Title: Re: ROBYN GARDNER 35 YEARS OLD MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011 #1
Post by: Buckeye on August 22, 20