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Missing Persons - High Profile => Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011 => Topic started by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2011, 08:40:36 AM



Title: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 - 12/04/11
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2011, 08:40:36 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_RobynGardner.jpg)


ROBYN GARDNER
MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 26, 2011, 09:14:03 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/robyn-gardners-boyfriends-clash-hours/story?id=14370011
Robyn Gardner's Boyfriends Clash Over Her Last Hours
August 24, 2011



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: pharlap on August 26, 2011, 09:26:48 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/International/robyn-gardners-boyfriends-clash-hours/story?id=14370011
Robyn Gardner's Boyfriends Clash Over Her Last Hours
August 24, 2011


"I've never known Robyn to take any sleeping pills in the middle of day, nor do I know why anybody would take sleeping pills during the middle of the day," Forester said.

"But let's go with his word here," Forester said of Giordano. "So you say she was taking sleeping pills, then you give her vodka? And then you take her snorkeling? Really? Why would anybody do that?"
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek::

"Obviously I don't believe anything he's saying," Forester said.

Investigators are also looking into Giordano's claim that Gardner took out a travel insurance policy for up to $1.5 million before the Aruba getaway and named Giordano the beneficiary of the policy.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/robyn-gardners-boyfriends-clash-hours/story?id=14370011 (http://abcnews.go.com/International/robyn-gardners-boyfriends-clash-hours/story?id=14370011)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on August 26, 2011, 01:28:30 PM
GMA

New witness....Love the comments by commentators, at the end.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-eyewitness-describes-scene-beach-14386651


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on August 26, 2011, 01:35:24 PM

I haven't seen this before, aplogies if it's already been posted:

Aruba Murder Suspect Had Financial Woes


http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba-suspect-gary-giordanos-5m/story?id=14379154

 ::snipping2::

Gary Giordano was in serious financial trouble and tried to scam a company out of $5 million in the months leading up to his Aruba vacation with Robyn Gardner, according to an attorney who faced him in court.

"Just a few months ago he was telling the court here that he was in financial distress, with what I understood to be him making much less money than his bills," said Thomas Murphy, who represented a staffing company Giordano sued for $5 million in January 2010. "So I don't know how he could wind up taking a vacation to Aruba, which I believe is not an inexpensive destination," Murphy said.

 ::snipping2::

Gary Giordano Sought $5 Million in Court


In the suit against the staffing company, Giordano was accused of forging documents in the suit and later dropped the case. Murphy said Giordano made up a contract and tried to sue the company for not upholding it.

"I accused him of committing perjury, I accused him of fabricating documents, I accused him of the worst sort of behavior that I could think of," Murphy said. "My professional judgment about Mr. Giordano was that he was not to be believed at any level about anything."

"I absolutely believe that Mr. Giordano, based on my experience defending my client, that he is capable of manufacturing out of whole cloth a story and then pursuing it to abnormal ends," Murphy said.

 ::snipping2::

Maryland court records show Giordano had a history of theft from individuals in which he allegedly took amounts ranging from under $300 to more than $500. When he was arrested by Costco for shoplifting jewelry, he sued the company for false imprisonment, seeking $5,000, and lost, according to a source.

What a guy!...... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Can Aruba REALLY be conducting a search for the remains of Robyn without bringing in dogs?
I don't think so. 

IMO, If I don't see dogs, they aren't looking for a body, or they don't want to find her.

I hope the FBI will be able to determine how Robyn's gmail account was accessed, from what device and from what location. 

 ::MonkeyBike::




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 26, 2011, 01:47:08 PM
A question remains: what is worse for Aruba's tourism business, that she's not found or that she's found murdered? Same about Natalee.

I'm not saying that the government is not trying hard enough to find these ladies, just that the thought comes to mind... are they doing everything that is possible to find them?

----

There was something mentioned in the news a few days ago that nobody commented on. It was that when GG was stopped at the airport he had requested to fly to another destination. I am assuming that new destination wasn't Maryland. So, where was he going after Aruba?

I don't think I saw the answer to that anywhere.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on August 26, 2011, 02:12:17 PM
Suspect in Aruba claimed money woes
Giordano accused of forging documents


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/23/suspect-in-aruba-claimed-money-woes/print/

 ::snipping2::

Court records also indicate Mr. Giordano, who runs the temporary staffing business Leverage LLC out of his home, filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit on behalf of his company in January 2010 against another staffing company, claiming he was owed money for placing an employee at federal home mortgage lender Freddie Mac in 2007.

But the defendant company in the case contended that Mr. Giordano forged a signature to fraudulently produce the contract that he later sued the company over.

An executive with the defendant company said in court papers that Mr. Giordano's girlfriend at the time — who was also a friend of the executive's wife — had told him that "Gary asked her if she could get a copy of my signature."

Thomas Murphy, the lawyer who represented the Virginia staffing company that Mr. Giordano sued, said he was shocked at the audacity of the lawsuit.

"I've been a lawyer for 37 years, and I've never seen anyone who had the gall to create, prepare and forge such a document," he said. "This guy is living large in a big house and has a big mortgage and a nice car, but claims in filings that he is basically broke."

The case proceeded to trial this year, but Mr. Giordano dropped it March 24, according to court records. It was the same day the woman involved in the case was scheduled to testify, Mr. Murphy said.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Apparently, Giordano has a recent history of attempted scams to produce a big payday.  Tried to sue Costco and lost, tried to sue another staffing company and failed.  He may have purchased an AD&D policy on Robyn, but is not above forgery, so if he did make himself a beneficiary against her loss of life, we cannot be sure that she was aware of it.

 



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 26, 2011, 02:17:03 PM
A question remains: what is worse for Aruba's tourism business, that she's not found or that she's found murdered? Same about Natalee.

I'm not saying that the government is not trying hard enough to find these ladies, just that the thought comes to mind... are they doing everything that is possible to find them?

----

There was something mentioned in the news a few days ago that nobody commented on. It was that when GG was stopped at the airport he had requested to fly to another destination. I am assuming that new destination wasn't Maryland. So, where was he going after Aruba?

I don't think I saw the answer to that anywhere.



I don't know where he was trying to go, but I did comment on it and had the same question.

 ::MonkeyWink::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11942.msg1463710#msg1463710

Reply #761 on: August 22, 2011, 06:54:26 PM »

Quote
When Giordano tried to leave, he going to an alternate destination?

Would be interesting imo to know where that was...


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on August 26, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
A question remains: what is worse for Aruba's tourism business, that she's not found or that she's found murdered? Same about Natalee.

I'm not saying that the government is not trying hard enough to find these ladies, just that the thought comes to mind... are they doing everything that is possible to find them?

----

There was something mentioned in the news a few days ago that nobody commented on. It was that when GG was stopped at the airport he had requested to fly to another destination. I am assuming that new destination wasn't Maryland. So, where was he going after Aruba?

I don't think I saw the answer to that anywhere.



Hi IM.  I haven't seen an answer as to where Giordano was attempting to go when he tried to leave Aruba.  Would be very interesting to know. 

As for what's better for Aruba, a murder or a missing person, I think we have to conclude that they believe it's better for tourism if people remain missing.

There's a pattern of not investigating, not searching, not following up on leads, not to mention misrepresentation of the murder rate in Aruba.  How many of the obvious murders have been categorized as "suicide"?  It's a very dangerous place for many reasons.

Aruba sucks.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 26, 2011, 02:28:59 PM
GMA

New witness....Love the comments by commentators, at the end.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-eyewitness-describes-scene-beach-14386651

Thanks Buckeye!   ::MonkeyCool::

Laziness?  Inept?   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sergio better hope he doesn't have a run in with the law anytime soon.   ::MonkeyDevil::

But...I think we all know there's no good reason for them NOT to have talked to anyone and everyone that was on that beach by now; whether they think what they have to say would be important to the investigation or not!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Aruba sucks.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on August 26, 2011, 03:43:57 PM
Aruba Mystery: Eyewitness Describes Scene on Beach An eyewitness who was on the beach the day Robyn Gardner vanished speaks.

 02:36 | 08/26/2011

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-eyewitness-describes-scene-beach-14386651


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 26, 2011, 06:26:46 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/exclusive-aruba-cops-robyn-gardner-gary-giordano-terrifying-final-hours

 ::snipping2::

The ENQUIRER has discovered the bomb­shell reason police believe prime suspect Gary Giordano snapped before the 35-year-old dental assistant from Maryland vanished, and how help­less Robyn spent her fateful, final hours.
 
Authorities believe twist­ed sex fiend Giordano – the last person to see Robyn alive – exploded with rage when he spotted an “I love you” text that she sent to her boyfriend, and brutally killed her, according to a source close to the police probe.
 
Giordano’s sudden savagery ruined a premeditated plan that Giordano had to murder Robyn, dump her body at sea and make it appear as if she drowned, according to the shocking scenario being investi­gated by Aruban police.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 26, 2011, 07:07:58 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-eyewitness-describes-scene-beach-14386651

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08262011_SergioSilva_ArubanFisherman_EyeWitness.jpg)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/26/robyn-gardner-fisherman_n_938285.html#s326251&title=Robyn_Gardner

Robyn Gardner Missing: Aruban Fisherman Says He Saw Maryland Tourist And Gary Giordano On Beach

First Posted: 8/26/11 04:54 PM ET Updated: 8/26/11 04:54 PM ET

A fisherman in Aruba says he saw the man suspected of Robyn Gardner's disappearance driving erratically and appearing to be drunk on the day the American tourist vanished.

Sergio Silva told ABC's "Good Morning America" that he saw Gardner and Gary Giordano leaving the Rum Reef Bar & Grill in a rental car on Aug. 2, driving "in the wrong direction."

Later that evening, Silva says Giordano looked like he was drunk while he was speaking with police on the beach during the initial search for the missing tourist.

"Cops were all over him, trying to talk to him, and he would just mumble -- nobody could understand what he was saying," the eyewitness told "Good Morning America."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 08:52:41 PM

HURRICANE KATRINA

The Cloak of Cover

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Pages 184:
The opportunity to hide behind Hurricane Katrina is too inviting.  The three suspects will be released while all eyes are turned to the devastation in New Orlean.

Page 815: The last announcement I make on television is never seen.  Hurrican Katrina gives the island the cloak of cover it needs to let the suspects walk free and relieve itself of its media burden.


The Open Door

Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway

Page 142:
  Hurricane Katrina had left the door open for the boys to sent on their way with little publicity and few restrictions because it took the world's focus off of Natalee.




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 26, 2011, 09:03:18 PM

Considering Gary Giordano is not the son of an Aruba/Dutch elite ... my sincere prayer is that Aruban/Dutch justice will prevail for Robyn Gardner.

Janet

+++++

The Natalee Holloway Case

'Scarborough Country' for Oct. 21st
updated 10/23/2005 4:46:55 PM ET


<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: They never—they never wanted to implicate these three young men.  They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. ....

<snipped>

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 26, 2011, 09:40:54 PM
http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/10424851/___Vermiste_Amerikaanse_gedood___.html?p=2,1

Google translation:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08252011_DeTelegraaf.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 27, 2011, 12:12:21 AM
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980067314

Robyn Gardner Breaking Story; Provocative Photos Surface of Missing Woman

August 26, 2011 04:50 PM EDT


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 27, 2011, 01:55:42 AM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/exclusive-aruba-cops-robyn-gardner-gary-giordano-terrifying-final-hours

EXCLUSIVE! ARUBA COPS: ROBYN GARDNER’s TERRIFYING FINAL HOURS

(SNIP) Authorities believe twist­ed sex fiend Giordano – the last person to see Robyn alive – exploded with rage when he spotted an “I love you” text that she sent to her boyfriend, and brutally killed her, according to a source close to the police probe. (SNIP)



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on August 27, 2011, 04:30:01 AM
The ABC News source says a witness was present when Gardner named Giordano as the beneficiary on the travel insurance policy, and that Gardner was fully coherent when she signed it.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/robyn-gardners-boyfriends-clash-hours/story?id=14370011


Police are looking at a rock which is said to have a full hand print and blood on it that was found behind a restaurant that the pair were said to have dined in before her disappearance
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029692/Robyn-Gardner-killed-Aruba-Gary-Giordano-read-text-sent-boyfriend.html#ixzz1W9yqXPfJ

Police said that they found blood on a rock behind the dive shop at the restaurant.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029692/Robyn-Gardner-killed-Aruba-Gary-Giordano-read-text-sent-boyfriend.html#ixzz1W9zHJApG


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 27, 2011, 12:01:54 PM
A witness observed Gary Giordano and Robyn Gardner driving away from Baby Beach at 4:00 PM.  The implication is that the beach was not the location where Robin met her demise.

Something happened in the 2 1/2 hour timeframe prior to Giordano's return to the beach when he reported Gardner missing.

Janet

+++++

Aruba suspect and missing woman did NOT go snorkelling, says witness as man's account of how Robyn Gardner vanished falls apart
Last updated at 5:06 PM on 21st August 2011


<snipped>

The witness told police that he saw the tourists walking on the beach at 4pm, but that they drove away without swimming in the ocean, reported ABC News.
He said that after they left, he never saw the couple again.

<snipped>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2028517/Aruba-suspect-Gary-Giordano-missing-woman-Robyn-Gardner-did-NOT-snorkelling.html


Police Reveal 'Bloody Handprint' Evidence In Aruba Mystery Disappearance Doesn't Exist
Posted on Aug 21, 2011 @ 06:00AM


A purported key piece evidence in the mysterious disappearance of missing American woman Robyn Gardner doesn't exist, police have revealed.

Blood was reportedly found on a rock near the restaurant not far from where Gardner and her traveling companion Gary Giordano were last seen together.

But Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein said in an interview Saturday night: "The detail about the hand print and blood is not true."

"That is not something that we have found," the Solicitor General said, adding: "Let me put that to rest as that only hinders the investigation."

Speaking to Judge Jeanine Pirro on Fox News' Justice with Judge Jeanine, Stein also shed new light on the graphic photographs that authorities found on Giordano's camera, showing the missing Maryland woman in various sexual positions.

"I'm told there is no sign of duress at all (in the images)," General Stein told Judge Pirro.

One law enforcement source had described the images as "beyond pornographic," though General Stein stopped short of that description.

He said, "Those photos were explicit. That's all I have said and that is all I am going to say. I have not seen the pictures myself."

<snipped>

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/robyn-gardner-aruba-disappearance-no-bloody-handprint-evidence


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on August 27, 2011, 12:38:57 PM
Type: Earthquake
19 minutes ago
Magnitude: 4.6
DateTime: Saturday August 27 2011, 16:15:26 UTC
Region: Aruba region
Depth: 20.5 km

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/map_detail.php?id=130578


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 27, 2011, 01:14:58 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/AshadT/statuses/107500261488070656 (http://twitter.com/#!/AshadT/statuses/107500261488070656)

@NBCNews
NBC News

Non-Irene news. RT @jeffrossen USGS confirms Magnitude 4.6 earthquake here in Aruba. We all felt it. Everyone ok. No reports of damage.

2 minutes ago by rozzy via web


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 27, 2011, 01:40:03 PM
http://www.facebook.com/evelynwevercroes?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/08272011_ArubaEarthquake.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on August 27, 2011, 03:28:21 PM
Renfro eat mexican food again?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: tcumom on August 27, 2011, 03:37:12 PM
Renfro eat mexican food again?
hilarious .  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 27, 2011, 03:46:08 PM
 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 27, 2011, 04:16:36 PM
Renfro eat mexican food again?


(http://bestsmileys.com/lol/4.gif)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on August 27, 2011, 05:19:53 PM
Renfro eat mexican food again?

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: festa on August 28, 2011, 12:02:19 AM
WOW what is going on - just went to post and saw that Aruba had an earthquake?!!! 

I'm sure this has been covered, but just want to stress that I agree absolutely with his statement, mentioned this early on:

"Am I angry that she was there with him? Of course. Do I ask myself why and what she was thinking? Yes," said Forester. "But I can't let that consume me. What does consume me is what we can we do to find her. What I'd like to see as soon as possible is a search with canines."


Has this happened yet?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: festa on August 28, 2011, 12:05:27 AM
Glad everyone is ok in Aruba -


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 28, 2011, 01:12:35 AM
WOW what is going on - just went to post and saw that Aruba had an earthquake?!!! 

I'm sure this has been covered, but just want to stress that I agree absolutely with his statement, mentioned this early on:

"Am I angry that she was there with him? Of course. Do I ask myself why and what she was thinking? Yes," said Forester. "But I can't let that consume me. What does consume me is what we can we do to find her. What I'd like to see as soon as possible is a search with canines."


Has this happened yet?

I haven't seen any reports of canines being used.  But Taco Stein did mention in this statement that there is a world renowned team available from the Netherlands.

http://www.amigoe.com/english/81172-explicit-pictures-of-gardner-on-giordanos-camera


‘Explicit pictures’ of Gardner on Giordano’s camera         

THURSDAY, 18 AUGUST 2011 13:14


 ::snipping2::

He does confirm one person from the FBI, who is normally stationed in Barbados, is on the island. According to the OM, he coordinates the legal aid requests from Aruba to the United States. Stein does not expect more FIB-officers will come to the island. He states there are sufficient ‘extremely capable people’ in the Kingdom who can assist with the investigation. For example, he names a team with tracking dogs from the KLPD (Corps National Police Services) in The Netherlands that is ‘worldwide renown’ and on request could be deployed in tracing the body.

 ::snipping2::


If they have truly believed she's dead from the beginning, and have not been successful in finding the body; why haven't they brought the canines in?

Afraid of what (or maybe how many) the canines would find?

Same reason IMO they aren't open to other searchers with canines coming from the US or elsewhere to search.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 28, 2011, 05:26:19 PM
Remember the Sogeti connection to Gary Giordano, I've noticed several connections between American Express (thinking about the insurance policy) and Sogeti as well...

May not mean anything but I thought it was interesting...

Links to some of the ones I came across...

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/nicole-hermanson-schroedl/4/479/b3

http://www.linkedin.com/in/theonlinerealtor

http://lutton.net/page/More-About-Michael.aspx

http://www.jobseekcentral.com/search_result.php?q=American+Express&l=&co=&publisher=85653115390389     ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2011, 06:32:49 PM
WOW what is going on - just went to post and saw that Aruba had an earthquake?!!! 

I'm sure this has been covered, but just want to stress that I agree absolutely with his statement, mentioned this early on:

"Am I angry that she was there with him? Of course. Do I ask myself why and what she was thinking? Yes," said Forester. "But I can't let that consume me. What does consume me is what we can we do to find her. What I'd like to see as soon as possible is a search with canines."


Has this happened yet?

Festa
- good to see you!  No canines yet that I remember but maybe someone else will recall.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on August 28, 2011, 06:45:38 PM
Remember the Sogeti connection to Gary Giordano, I've noticed several connections between American Express (thinking about the insurance policy) and Sogeti as well...

May not mean anything but I thought it was interesting...

Links to some of the ones I came across...

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/nicole-hermanson-schroedl/4/479/b3

http://www.linkedin.com/in/theonlinerealtor

http://lutton.net/page/More-About-Michael.aspx

http://www.jobseekcentral.com/search_result.php?q=American+Express&l=&co=&publisher=85653115390389     ::MonkeyConfused::

Hey TM,   ::HelloKitty::

Very interesting ..........

 ::snipping2::
http://www.jobseekcentral.com/search_result.php?q=American+Express&l=&co=&publisher=85653115390389

from the last link in your post :

Travel Counselor-Floater Job
American Express Sogeti - , NJ US
of American Express tools such as ROP, Correx, Merced, Lotus Notes. Microsoft office knowledge, including Word, Excel and Outlook American Express is an equal...
American Express

Travel Counselor Job
American Express Sogeti - Pittsburgh, PA US
manners with a client relations, office, and American Express departmental goals. A TC position (up to 6... client inquiries. American Express is an equal...
American Express

What is American Express Sogeti?



I spent a lot of time looking at Sogeti, and as far as I could determine, Giordano was a sales executive with them. 

Still interested in how Sogeti could have been an interested party in Giordano's divorce.

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 28, 2011, 07:32:25 PM
Remember the Sogeti connection to Gary Giordano, I've noticed several connections between American Express (thinking about the insurance policy) and Sogeti as well...

May not mean anything but I thought it was interesting...

Links to some of the ones I came across...

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/nicole-hermanson-schroedl/4/479/b3

http://www.linkedin.com/in/theonlinerealtor

http://lutton.net/page/More-About-Michael.aspx

http://www.jobseekcentral.com/search_result.php?q=American+Express&l=&co=&publisher=85653115390389     ::MonkeyConfused::

Hey TM,   ::HelloKitty::

Very interesting ..........

 ::snipping2::
http://www.jobseekcentral.com/search_result.php?q=American+Express&l=&co=&publisher=85653115390389

from the last link in your post :

Travel Counselor-Floater Job
American Express Sogeti - , NJ US
of American Express tools such as ROP, Correx, Merced, Lotus Notes. Microsoft office knowledge, including Word, Excel and Outlook American Express is an equal...
American Express

Travel Counselor Job
American Express Sogeti - Pittsburgh, PA US
manners with a client relations, office, and American Express departmental goals. A TC position (up to 6... client inquiries. American Express is an equal...
American Express

What is American Express Sogeti?



I spent a lot of time looking at Sogeti, and as far as I could determine, Giordano was a sales executive with them. 

Still interested in how Sogeti could have been an interested party in Giordano's divorce.

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::



You're in my head again Helen Back!    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::HelloKitty::

I'm wondering about the same things...   ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on August 28, 2011, 07:43:20 PM
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4230/arubaunsafefortourists.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 28, 2011, 09:15:31 PM
http://www.fairfaxcountyeda.org/sites/default/files/pdf/international_firms.pdf

Fairfax County, Virginia - FY 2011

376 FOREIGN-OWNED FIRMS

BELGIUM

Number of Belgian Firms: 5

 ::snipping2::

Sogeti USA LC
8201 Greensboro Drive, Suite 1002
McLean
22102

703-734-1511
Parent Company:  Cap Gemini SA
IT consulting services
www.us.sogeti.com

 ::snipping2::

FRANCE
Number of French Firms:  26

 ::snipping2::

CAP Gemini US, LLC
2250 Corporate Park Drive, Suite 406
Herndon
20171
703-673-9100
Parent Company:  Cap Gemini SA
IT services—consulting
www.capgemini.com

 ::snipping2::

CAP Gemini-Government Solutions
2250 Corporate Park Drive, Suite 410
Herndon
20171
571-336-1600
Parent Company:  Cap Gemini SA
Government service solutions
www.capgemini.com

 ::snipping2::

https://sccefile.scc.virginia.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetails.aspx?enc=0kLp+PA4gOvQR6CD5VCaN3HhTyB/SrJQ7HAME7ilCRFR2yYQlzzadU89QCmVAeyT2YNLoAtl+UP0CAA3Cw5RQA==


Welcome to SCC eFile
Business Entity Details

Sogeti USA LLC

SCC ID:      T0200263
Business Entity Type:      Foreign Limited Liability Company
Jurisdiction of Formation:      DE
Date of Formation/Registration:      1/28/2002
Status:      Active
   
Principal Office
1114 AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS
NEW YORK NY 10036-0000

Registered Agent/Registered Office
CORPORATION SERVICE COMPANY
Bank of America Center, 16th Floor         
1111 East Main Street         
RICHMOND   VA   23219-0000
RICHMOND CITY   216    
Status:   Active    
Effective Date:   4/29/2011    

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http://www.linkedin.com/in/niesjan

Jan Nies
Senior Consultant at ITP Caribbean N.V.
Aruba Information Technology and Services

Current
Senior Consultant at ITP Caribbean N.V.

Past
Manager Information Services at Belastingdienst Aruba (Aruba Tax Service)
Managing Consultant at Cap Gemini Ernst & Young
Managing Consultant at Capgemini
Software Engineer and Teamleader at B/CICT
Senior Software Engineer & Project Manager at Belastingdienst (Tax Service)
Junior Software Engineer at Rohill Engineering B.V.
see less

Education
Grafisch Lyceum Amsterdam
Hogeschool Enschede
Prof. Dr. S.Greydanusschool, Zwolle
Guido de Bresschool, Ommen

Jan Nies's Experience

Senior Consultant
ITP Caribbean N.V.
Privately Held; Information Technology and Services industry
September 2004 – Present (7 years)

Manager Information Services
Belastingdienst Aruba (Aruba Tax Service)
Information Technology and Services industry
2005 – 2008 (3 years)

Managing Consultant
Cap Gemini Ernst & Young
Public Company; 10,001+ employees; CAP; Information Technology and Services industry
1990 – 2004 (14 years)

Managing Consultant
Capgemini
Public Company; 10,001+ employees; CAP; Information Technology and Services industry
May 1990 – July 2004 (14 years 3 months)

Software Development, Methodology Teacher, Project Management
Software Engineer and Teamleader
B/CICT
Information Technology and Services industry
1996 – 2003 (7 years)

Senior Software Engineer & Project Manager
Belastingdienst (Tax Service)
Government Agency; 10,001+ employees; Government Administration industry
1996 – 2003 (7 years)
I was hired from Capgemini (and it's predecessors) and have been working on the following projects: IKB; OLT; OBBU; IRIS; MOA; MCA (later on CDI).

Junior Software Engineer
Rohill Engineering B.V.
Information Technology and Services industry
1987 – 1989 (2 years)
Stagiair, vakantiewerker en later in vaste dienst
(Trainee holiday worker and later in permanent employment)

Jan Nies's Education

Grafisch Lyceum Amsterdam
Course, Typografisch vormgeven en Layout
1995 – 1995

Hogeschool Enschede
1983 – 1989

Prof. Dr. S.Greydanusschool, Zwolle
HAVO, NL,EN,WI,NA,SK,BI
1978 – 1983

Guido de Bresschool, Ommen
Lagere School
1974 – 1977

Jan Nies's Additional Information

Groups and Associations:

Aruban business professionals

Capgemini Global

Capgemini forum [CG forum]

Decos Information Solutions

PRINCE2 (foundation+practitioner) Certified Professionals

The DSDM Group

http://www.yatedo.fr/s/companyname%3A(%22Belastingdienst+Aruba%22)


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http://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=34191

Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 15 MARCH 2005 under serial number 33137.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
ITP CARIBBEAN

 
Business address   RUMBASTRAAT 7, ORANJESTAD OOST
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PARTNERS (ITP) CARIBBEAN ARUBA N.V.
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   14 MARCH 2005
Last amendment in the articles   14 SEPTEMBER 2007
    
Authorized capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Paid up capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

SEGERS, JOHANNES ANTONIUS;
Born in   NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, CURACAO on 17 OCTOBER 1962
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   14 MARCH 2005
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
GEURTSEN, COENRAAD AUGUSTINUS MARIA;
Born in   THE NETHERLANDS, APELDOORN on 03 SEPTEMBER 1965
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   14 MARCH 2005
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
OBJECTIVE (S) OF THE COMPANY
A. PROVIDING ADVICE IN THE AREAS OF DATA COMMUNICATIONS, COMPUTER, ELECTRONICS AND AUTOMATION;
B. THE WHOLESALE AND RETAIL COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND THE SUBSEQUENT ORIENTED ELECTRONIC HARDWARE AND OPERATING SOFTWARE, AS WELL AS SUPPLIES AND PARTS THEREFOR;
C. PROVIDING SERVICES, ASSISTANCE AND ADVICE ON THE PURCHASE, INSTALLATION, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF COMPUTERS AND PROCESSING SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT;
D. DEVELOPING, PUBLISHING AND SELLING OF COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND CONSEQUENT LEGAL RIGHTS;
E. PROVIDING TRAINING IN COMPUTER SKILLS AND ASSISTING COMPUTER USERS;
F. PROVIDING SERVICES RELATED TO THE USE OF COMPUTERS BY OTHERS;
G. PROVIDING TRAINING AND IN CREATING AND MAINTAINING WEBSITES AND WEB DESIGNS;
H. TO ACQUIRE, POSSESS, DISPOSE OF, MANAGE AND DEVELOP, LEASE, LEASING, MORTGAGING OR IN GENERAL ENCUMBRANCE OF REGISTERED PROPERTY AND / OR ANY RIGHT OR INTEREST IN REAL PROPERTY BOTH FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR THIRD PARTIES;
I. ACQUIRING, PARTICIPATING IN, WORKING WITH OTHER COMPANIES, AND TO (HELP) FINANCE, INCLUDING THROUGH THE PROVISION OF GUARANTEES, OTHER ONDEMEMINGEN, PARTICULARLY (BUT NOT LIMITED TO) THOSE IN WHICH THE COMPANY ONE GROUP.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 28, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
http://www.rsm.nl/home/alumni/alumni_access/bsc_drs_phd_alumni_dutch/Commissies/Alumni%20Commissie%20Strategie/dimitri_mayer_capgemini

DIMITRI MAYER, CAPGEMINI

What is the best event during your study time?
The most impressive event was the Eureka week. Rotterdam was the first time for me, the weather was beautiful, learned many new people and a whole new world of student life and university. That week has largely laid the foundation for the rest of my college

How did your career path so far off?
My career path is the first year has been a quest. Am April 1 was jobhopper years. First Stork as a Corporate Management Trainee, after one year went to Aruba for a subsidiary to operate at a refinery. After the family business started working in the then stormy times in the IT sector. After one year switched to Deloitte as a management consultant for the Real Estate industry. And last year switched to the organization and the field where I have been studying at Capgemini. Here I work as a strategy consultant for the telecommunications, media and entertainment market.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on August 28, 2011, 10:24:48 PM

Great job TM.  I couldn't make the Capgemini SA connection.

What the hale?!?

 ::MonkeyEek::




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 28, 2011, 11:25:44 PM

Great job TM.  I couldn't make the Capgemini SA connection.

What the hale?!?

 ::MonkeyEek::


Thanks Helen Back   :smt052

Now I wish I knew what it all means, if anything.   :2doh:


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 29, 2011, 12:16:20 PM
Aruba Murder Suspect Gary Giordano Calmly Told Authorities, 'She Might Be Dead Now'
Aug. 29, 2011


<snipped>

A source told ABC News that when police spoke with Andrea Coulson, Gardner's mother, she told them Giordano had called her three days after her daughter went missing.

He said, "I just got my socks and my shoes wet when I was looking for your daughter."

In a statement, Coulson said she thought it was a strange thing to say given his previous account that the couple had been snorkeling when she vanished.

Several eyewitnesses have disputed Giordano's snorkeling defense.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-calmly-told-authorities/story?id=14403446
 




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on August 29, 2011, 12:46:14 PM

Great job TM.  I couldn't make the Capgemini SA connection.

What the hale?!?

 ::MonkeyEek::


Thanks Helen Back   :smt052

Now I wish I knew what it all means, if anything.   :2doh:

Back to one of our original questions......How many times has Giordano traveled to Aruba and what associations does he have there?

Since much of the info we are getting is from ABC, whose articles continue to quote "an Aruban Police Source", I don't anticipate answers to pertinent questions.  IMO, they leak out what they want to suggest.

I did read that the Aruban Police have Robyn's computer, and are "considering sending it to the Netherlands for examination". 

I guess like they are considering getting some dogs in to search for her. This nonsense is all too familiar.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hopefully, the FBI has learned more about Giordano's associations and travels since they searched his home.  IMO, they are our best hope.




 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 30, 2011, 02:27:01 AM

Great job TM.  I couldn't make the Capgemini SA connection.

What the hale?!?

 ::MonkeyEek::


Thanks Helen Back   :smt052

Now I wish I knew what it all means, if anything.   :2doh:

Back to one of our original questions......How many times has Giordano traveled to Aruba and what associations does he have there?

Since much of the info we are getting is from ABC, whose articles continue to quote "an Aruban Police Source", I don't anticipate answers to pertinent questions.  IMO, they leak out what they want to suggest.

I did read that the Aruban Police have Robyn's computer, and are "considering sending it to the Netherlands for examination". 

I guess like they are considering getting some dogs in to search for her. This nonsense is all too familiar.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hopefully, the FBI has learned more about Giordano's associations and travels since they searched his home.  IMO, they are our best hope.
 

So many questions, very few answers. 

Wonder what will happen in court tomorrow, do they have enough to prolong his detention?
Are they going to let him go, and leave it to the U. S. authorities to charge him with something? 

Why aren't they trying harder to find Robyn?  No searches with canines yet?

It's been far too quiet, imo.  That worries me.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 30, 2011, 02:27:21 AM

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/82321-tweede-aardbeving-tijdens-weekend

Google translation:

Second earthquake at weekends         
MONDAY, AUGUST 29, 2011 10:04

A second earthquake, Sunday, at Aruba.

ORANGE CITY - Aruba last night once again faced with an earthquake. It took place at twenty past nine and had a magnitude of 1.2 on the Richter Scale. The epicenter was located 17 km north of Aruba.

Some inhabitants of North and St. Cruz have felt this earthquake, so let Aruba know weather. It was the second earthquake in a weekend in Aruba. Saturday afternoon, the island was already shaken by a quake, which had a weight of 4.6 on the Richter Scale and was used by many more people in multiple locations and felt. That first earthquake caused minor damage to include the landing and the airport Reina Beatrix opstijgbaan. The airport was a precautionary measure about half hour closed, flights were diverted.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 30, 2011, 12:51:33 PM
Aruba Murder Suspect Calm With Scratches on Throat: Police Report
Aug. 30, 2011

 
<snipped>

Three witnesses, two women and a man, told police that Giordano approached them on Aug. 2, saying, "Can you help me? We were snorkeling and my girlfriend is missing," she told police.

One woman told police that while Giordano's sneakers were wet, his shorts were not.

Aruba Murder Suspect Had Scratch on His Throat

"They were certainly not soaking wet because there was no water dripping from his pants. In my opinion, the man was covered in sweat," she said in the police report.

She went on to tell police, "The only thing I had noticed was that the man was very calm."

The woman's friend told police, "What I thought was strange was that this man was not searching...I also noticed that he had a scratch on his thorat. It looked as if someone had scratched him with a nail," according to the police report.

A third witness, a man, also described Giordano's calm demeanor in the initial hours of Gardner's disappearance.

<snipped

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-calm-scratches-throat/story?id=14410923


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 30, 2011, 12:58:26 PM

Gary Giordano's Father: My Son Is Not a Monster
By Nicole Weisensee Egan
Tuesday August 30, 2011 10:45 AM EDT


Gary Giordano, the man suspected in the disappearance of traveling companion Robyn Gardner in Aruba, "is not a monster," his father said on Tuesday's Today show.

"The least I can do is stand up for my son and tell the world that what they've been hearing about him is not true," Frank Giordano, 80, said on the NBC program.

Frank Giordano also released family photos of Gary, including some with his three sons (their faces masked for privacy), to display the "other side" of the man he says has been vilified by the press.

"I would like to show … the side that shows Gary as a good human being who's good to his family and good to his friends," Frank Giordano says. "I know he would not be able to kill someone."

Frank says his son has been put in isolation so he can't call or visit him, which has been hard on the family. "His kids miss him the most," says the elder Giordano. "He's almost a big kid himself. They love coming over to his house."

<snipped>

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20524123,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 30, 2011, 01:05:38 PM
Aruba Murder Suspect Calm With Scratches on Throat: Police Report
Aug. 30, 2011

 
<snipped>

Aruba Murder Suspect Defends Calling About Insurance Policy

Police also questioned Giordano about why he called American Express about an insurance policy on Gardner. He told them his lawyer advised him to do so.

Giordano reportedly moved to redeem a $1.5 million insurance policy on Gardner after she vanished. When police asked Giordano if Gardner had chosen on her own to make him a beneficiary, he said, "Yes, she filled out the papers herself."

<snipped

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-calm-scratches-throat/story?id=14410923


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: pharlap on August 30, 2011, 02:08:06 PM
Hate to say the only places to kill someone and get away with murder are Aruba & Florida  atm...... ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on August 30, 2011, 03:05:35 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/30/article-2031720-0DA212D800000578-8_634x433.jpg)
Frank Giordano with his son Gary Giordano

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/30/article-2031720-0DA2132700000578-1000_634x501.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/30/article-2031720-0DA214F800000578-993_634x319.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/30/article-2031720-0DA2154400000578-355_306x299.jpg)
GaryGiordano on vacation with another woman


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 30, 2011, 06:14:36 PM
Ribbit!

A controlling sicko can appear so normal to those outside a relationship?  Our family was touched by one a number of years ago.  It was eleven months riding on a roller coaster of emotions.  It was eleven months of walking on egg shells.  It was eleven months of h---.
 
Janet

+++++

12:50 on August 13, 2011, EDT.
Md. businessman held in woman's death in Aruba had history of troubled relationships


<snipped>

Jeanette Farago, a former neighbour, started dating Giordano around the time of his second divorce. She said Giordano was charismatic but could become angry and possessive, though she said she never felt physically threatened. Once, he wanted to take her on a cruise but became irate when she didn't want to go, she said, a situation Gardner also found herself in, according to a friend.

Farago said Giordano insisted on having her email password so he could ensure she was not seeing anyone else. If she said she was going to the grocery store, he would want photographic proof. Sometimes, she said, he would spy on her and text her details of her outfit so she knew he was watching. He even hid in the woods behind her home to watch her, dressing in a deer costume, she said
 
<snipped>

http://www.qr77.com/News/World/Article.aspx?id=298535


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: pharlap on August 30, 2011, 06:28:30 PM
If he did kill her (jmo, probably by the way the reports are coming out) wonder how many others died by his hand....
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on August 30, 2011, 08:06:18 PM
If he did kill her (jmo, probably by the way the reports are coming out) wonder how many others died by his hand....
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::CowboySmiley::

Maybe the economy hit him hard, and he thought he get away with it.

I like your humpy kitty, BTW... (http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l145/pharlap_9999/pharlap4.gif)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cadillac on August 30, 2011, 09:12:15 PM
What are the chances he did sell her?  Make it look like an "accident" and capitalize on that (wrt to the insurance money). Y'know - kinda double dipping.  JMO but someone who would murder in rage would also sell to the markets...We all know Urine did both. 

FWIW - I think Urine killed Natalee but I also think he sold girls in the market as well.  JMO


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 30, 2011, 09:48:50 PM
Martin Savidge on HLN, says the closed hearing is sometime in the morning and he's been told they would find out what happened in a release from the OM's office after the hearing.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 30, 2011, 09:51:17 PM
Robin Sax in on HLN now talking about the case.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 30, 2011, 09:56:13 PM
I hope they extend his detention, but I've just got a sinking feeling they may turn him loose.  And we probably won't know it until he's back at home, watching it on CNN with us.

It's just been too quiet.  No sign of any further searches for Robyn.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on August 30, 2011, 10:14:38 PM
I hope they extend his detention, but I've just got a sinking feeling they may turn him loose.  And we probably won't know it until he's back at home, watching it on CNN with us.

It's just been too quiet.  No sign of any further searches for Robyn.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Right but at least in this case he and Robyn are both Americans.  FBI may be able to do more once he is out of Aruba. 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on August 30, 2011, 10:18:01 PM
I don't think she was sold and I also don't think Joran sold anyone.  I think Joran used any one he could to get what he wanted but i don't think he sold women.  I think he stole from them and used them and murdered Natalee. 

I believe that Giordano killed Robyn.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cadillac on August 30, 2011, 10:32:28 PM
I don't think she was sold and I also don't think Joran sold anyone.  I think Joran used any one he could to get what he wanted but i don't think he sold women.  I think he stole from them and used them and murdered Natalee. 

I believe that Giordano killed Robyn.
Joran was invistigated for selling Thai women when he was over there...just sayin.

I am not saying that Natalee was sold - I think the jerk murdered her in a rage on that night , like he murdered Stepanie.  But I think he was involved in nepharious activities then and after wrt to the selling of women to the markets.

I am just questioning why this perv who too Robyn - why Aruba?  The lack of law inforcement - or the ease of selling a beautiful blonde to a market - and the records show she was drugged.

Shall I go back to sleep?

\SSha


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on August 30, 2011, 10:39:13 PM
Agreed Klaas


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on August 30, 2011, 10:43:46 PM
Agreed Klaas



Agreed about Gary not selling Robyn but murdering her...

Wouldn't put selling females by Giordano or Joran past either of them..both r opportunists and scanners with no regard for women



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 12:19:04 AM
Since last Saturday ... the American media has been focused on Hurricane Irene and its aftermath.  What has been going on behind the scenes in Aruba in regards to the Robyn Gardner case?

Janet

+++++

THE RELEASE OF JORAN VAN DER SLOOT AND THE KALPOE BROTHERS

 Hurricane Katrine - The Cloak of Cover

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 182:  September 1 Helen calls to say the court is asking for DNA from the Kalpoes and Joran van der Sloot and that their attorneys are fighting this.  She also says the suspects are pointing the finger at one another. ....

Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.   And we are the last ones to find out.

Pages 184: The opportunity to hide behind Hurricane Katrina is too inviting.  The three suspects will be released while all eyes are turned to the devastation in New Orlean.

Page 185: The last announcement I make on television is never seen.  Hurrican Katrina gives the island the cloak of cover it needs to let the suspects walk free and relieve itself of its media burden. ....

The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.

Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a resturant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust?


NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT
Loving Natalee

http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 12:20:23 AM
I don't think she was sold and I also don't think Joran sold anyone.  I think Joran used any one he could to get what he wanted but i don't think he sold women.  I think he stole from them and used them and murdered Natalee. 

I believe that Giordano killed Robyn.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 31, 2011, 01:50:57 AM

Great job TM.  I couldn't make the Capgemini SA connection.

What the hale?!?

 ::MonkeyEek::


Thanks Helen Back   :smt052

Now I wish I knew what it all means, if anything.   :2doh:

Back to one of our original questions......How many times has Giordano traveled to Aruba and what associations does he have there?

Since much of the info we are getting is from ABC, whose articles continue to quote "an Aruban Police Source", I don't anticipate answers to pertinent questions.  IMO, they leak out what they want to suggest.

I did read that the Aruban Police have Robyn's computer, and are "considering sending it to the Netherlands for examination". 

I guess like they are considering getting some dogs in to search for her. This nonsense is all too familiar.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hopefully, the FBI has learned more about Giordano's associations and travels since they searched his home.  IMO, they are our best hope.
 

If Gary Giordano had never been to Aruba before, and he did kill Robyn and hide her body...he just got lucky with the hiding place?  Or have they found her, like they found Natalee?

No body, no proof of a crime on the happy island?   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 31, 2011, 08:48:17 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-woman-robyn-gardner-met-aruba-murder-suspect/story?id=14418807
Robyn Gardner Met Murder Suspect on Swingers' Site, Friend Claims
By ASHLEIGH BANFIELD (@ABCAshleigh) , JASON STINE, ALEXA MIRANDA and JESSICA HOPPER (@jesshop23)
ARUBA Aug. 31, 2011

Video at link.
Gary Giordano and missing woman Robyn Gardner met online on the web site "Adult Friend Finder," which describes itself as "the world's largest sex and swinger personals community," Gardner's friend told Aruban investigators.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 11:11:58 AM

Solicitor General Taco Stein's silence in the media/talk show circuit since last Friday has been deafening.  What is going on behind the scenes?  Today will be interesting day in regards to what direction the Robyn Gardner case will take.

Janet

++++

Posted at 07:27 AM ET, 08/31/2011
Suspect in case of woman missing in Aruba to appear in court Wednesday
By Maggie Fazeli Fard


The Gaithersburg man held in Aruba in connection with the disappearance of a Maryland woman is due in court Wednesday for a hearing at which he may learn whether he will continue to be detained.

<snipped>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post_now/post/suspect-in-case-of-woman-missing-in-aruba-to-appear-in-court-wednesday/2011/08/31/gIQA1DGcrJ_blog.html
 

 



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 11:18:06 AM
CCTV shows 'major fight between Robyn Gardner and Aruba murder suspect Gary Giordano' as friend claims the pair met on swingers sex site
Last updated at 3:42 PM on 31st August 2011


Shocking CCTV footage shows missing American tourist Robyn Gardner having a violent fight with her travel companion hours before her disappearance in Aruba, it has been reported.

Prime murder suspect Gary Giordano, who friends said she met on a swingers sex site, is thought to have threatened to kill her while grabbing her by the neck and shoving her into an elevator on August 2 - the last day Miss Gardner, 35, was seen alive.

<snipped>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032199/Robyn-Gardner-Gary-Giordano-major-fight-Aruba-met-Adult-Friend-Finder.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 11:19:06 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-woman-robyn-gardner-met-aruba-murder-suspect/story?id=14418807
Robyn Gardner Met Murder Suspect on Swingers' Site, Friend Claims
By ASHLEIGH BANFIELD (@ABCAshleigh) , JASON STINE, ALEXA MIRANDA and JESSICA HOPPER (@jesshop23)
ARUBA Aug. 31, 2011

Video at link.
Gary Giordano and missing woman Robyn Gardner met online on the web site "Adult Friend Finder," which describes itself as "the world's largest sex and swinger personals community," Gardner's friend told Aruban investigators.
 ::snipping2::



The plot thickens.

Thanks trimmonthelake

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 11:37:46 AM
Published August 31, 2011[/b]

Gary Giordano of Maryland has been jailed nearly a month, since the disappearance of Robyn Gardner. Police and prosecutors on the Dutch Caribbean island need a judge's consent to keep holding him while they continue their probe.

Wednesday's hearing at a prison is closed to the public and news media. Solicitor General Taco Stein says prosecutors believe they have enough evidence to get another 60 days of detention. If the judge rules otherwise, prosecutors are expected to appeal.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/31/us-man-faces-aruba-judge-in-case-missing-woman/


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 01:17:20 PM
I'd still like to hear more about Forester's background. The media is concentrating on Giordano as being a murderer but Forester also raises my hinky meter. I mean, at least there's pics of Giordano with his boys laughing & having fun. Forester has 3 children, also, but where are the pics showing him laughing & having fun with them? Forester owes ALOT of back support, or gas that been caught up? Does he live in a million dollar house like Giordank or an apartment/condo? How many suits have been placed against him? Just curious...


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on August 31, 2011, 01:19:59 PM
Thanks For the updates swinger club omg ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 01:24:12 PM
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?gl=us&source=mog&q=cache:EiHTFBycnm4J:crimesceneusa.blogspot.com/2011/08/shocking-robyn-gardner-modeling-photos.html

Snipped:
MORE SHOCKING details are emerging about the secret life of Robyn Gardner. The pretty 35-year-old Maryland dental assistant also had modeling aspirations and we've (thanks to Chelsea Hoffman at Gather.com) have got our hand on some fairly provocative pictures. Gardner vanished in Aruba on Aug. 2 after going on a saucy holiday with secret beau Gary Giordano (behind the back of her other boyfriend.) It seems there were some photos "beyond pornographic" on Giordano's camera of Gardner, who cops suspect has been murdered.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LPRsPv7rBsI/TluEyC-zGrI/AAAAAAAACMU/ZzkYP5zu30k/s1600/4be42b5d2b1fc.jpg[/[img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HdiBamKbxzI/TluE5XwKwYI/AAAAAAAACMg/ALTuoekPP4c/s1600/colsonpose.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sAQONZPuOCM/TluEyglbz3I/AAAAAAAACMY/GtBAVDtg9nI/s1600/4be42bcd77c81.jpg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K-gx3Q0IkbI/TluEzY1P5FI/AAAAAAAACMc/4Jio6K--wA4/s1600/4be42cb120ea4.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 01:26:42 PM
The missing pic in my last post:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LPRsPv7rBsI/TluEyC-zGrI/AAAAAAAACMU/ZzkYP5zu30k/s1600/4be42b5d2b1fc.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 01:28:57 PM
 ::CowboySmiley::
Thanks For the updates swinger club omg ::MonkeyEek::

::HelloKitty:: Hiya Blonde!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 01:55:59 PM
http://www.modelmayhem.com/1669069


Elle Gardner
Female
33 years old
Ashburn, Virginia, US   
Facebook http://robynlgardner@comcast.net/
Mayhem #1669069
Model

About me
I want to model!!! Have only done 3 shoots with an aspiring photographer ( all with in the last 3 weeks). I am a true ham and have been called a natural. I am open to any and all photography... at the end of the day it truly is art. My photo was taken last Thursday by a professional and I quote him... " they aren't going to believe you are real". I took that as a complement.

(http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/1669069)
 US (lbs/inches)
 Metric (kg/cms.)
Details
Height:    5' 6"

Weight:    110 lbs

Bust:    0"

Waist:    24"

Hips:    27"

Cup:   D

Dress:   n/a

Shoe:   8.0

Hair color:   Blonde

Hair length:   Very Long

Eye color:   Brown

Ethnicity:   Caucasian

Skin color:   White

Shoot nudes:   Yes

Experience:   Some Experience

Compensation:   Paid Assignments Only

Genres:   n/a

Info
Last activity:   Aug 11, 2010

Joined:   May 07, 2010

(http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100507/08/4be42b5d2b1fc.jpg)

(http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100507/08/4be42bcd77c81.jpg)

(http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100507/08/4be42cb120ea4.jpg)

(http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100628/07/4c28ab7fc3014.jpg)

http://www.modelmayhem.com/friends/view_friends/1669069
    
David Park Photography
Photographer
    
Innuendo Photos
Photographer
    
trinity57
Photographer
 
James Phelps
Photographer
    
Shotz Creatives - Spicy
Photographer
    
Court Room Media
Photographer
    
Images by Bailey
Photographer
    
Carl Weaver Photography
Photographer
    
Billy Tidwell
Photographer
 
AShivarPhoto
Photographer
    
The Photography Studio
Photographer
    
John Davis Photography
Photographer
    
Hub City Glamour
Photographer
    
JaxDigitalPhotographer
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Photographer
 
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Bruno Dileo
Photographer
    
Sonny White Jr
Photographer
    
Meine Sicht Fotografie
Photographer
    
PhotoPhantasia
Photographer
 
Tyler
Model


:::::There is only ONE model listed & his name is Tyler (the rest are photogs). He's from Tampa FL according to his profile. Here's his link:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/2



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Dihannah1 on August 31, 2011, 02:22:31 PM
Learning more about Gardner and seeing these pics.  I would say she was a perfect target, living a very risque and secretive life.  Of course, I STRESS there is NO excuse for MURDER!  I really don't think she was well prepped for a real modeling career.  Her facial expressions are too fake and forced, she appears to be amatuerish.  She appears to have had some work done on her  face and the boobs look fake.  With this all being said,  I see a girl, who was probably harmless and very nice, but had very low self esteem, seeking attention with her looks and sexuality an quite likely drinking away some internal pain.  Those attract the wrong kind of people and at her age, she hadn't got passed that or found a sense of peace with herself.  I don't believe Forestor provided her the attention she so much yearned for, and/or, she obviously loved to live dangerously, refusing to grow up.  She continued searching else where, handing herself over on a silver platter  to a dangerous, sick, control freak!  I have no doubt he is guilty and needs to pay!  Will he, in Aruba?  All I can say, is this is their opportunity to do the right thing for once.  Icing on the cake would be something about Natalee pops up for Beth and Dave's closure, however much it may be wishful thinking.

I am not condoning or comdeming anything, except for my belief in Giardoni, most likely killed.  I am just stating some of my own observations.  I hate the fact women have the need to feel sexy and loved by for body appearance.  It's sad our society encourages this perception starting at such a young age.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 02:39:36 PM
Learning more about Gardner and seeing these pics.  I would say she was a perfect target, living a very risque and secretive life.  Of course, I STRESS there is NO excuse for MURDER!  I really don't think she was well prepped for a real modeling career.  Her facial expressions are too fake and forced, she appears to be amatuerish.  She appears to have had some work done on her  face and the boobs look fake.  With this all being said,  I see a girl, who was probably harmless and very nice, but had very low self esteem, seeking attention with her looks and sexuality an quite likely drinking away some internal pain.  Those attract the wrong kind of people and at her age, she hadn't got passed that or found a sense of peace with herself.  I don't believe Forestor provided her the attention she so much yearned for, and/or, she obviously loved to live dangerously, refusing to grow up.  She continued searching else where, handing herself over on a silver platter  to a dangerous, sick, control freak!  I have no doubt he is guilty and needs to pay!  Will he, in Aruba?  All I can say, is this is their opportunity to do the right thing for once.  Icing on the cake would be something about Natalee pops up for Beth and Dave's closure, however much it may be wishful thinking.

I am not condoning or comdeming anything, except for my belief in Giardoni, most likely killed.  I am just stating some of my own observations.  I hate the fact women have the need to feel sexy and loved by for body appearance.  It's sad our society encourages this perception starting at such a young age.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO

Also, I believe her stats were embellished, which is very common for models. IMO, based on her shape & recent pics, & my past experience with portfolio structure, there's no way she's 110. She's had a breast enlargement & silicone adds weight. She also doesn't appear 5'6. Reports have shown 5'5, most notably her missing profile. Also, the lingerie she's wearing is see-through but you can't tell due to the shading. Here's a true picture of the lingerie she's wearing for comparison:

Robyn's MM Pics:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/1669069/viewall
(http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100507/08/4be42cb120ea4.jpg)
(http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/100507/08/4be42bcd77c81.jpg)

The comparison pic:
The pic is a bit too revealing.  Edit to remove.  MB


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
Dihannah1, I agree. Sad isn't it?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 31, 2011, 03:02:19 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

 ::snipping2::

Shauna Johnson
HLN reports the hearing is over and now awaiting the decision.
56 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 03:07:16 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

 ::snipping2::

Shauna Johnson
HLN reports the hearing is over and now awaiting the decision.
56 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::

Thanks momma!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 31, 2011, 03:10:14 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032199/Robyn-Gardner-Gary-Giordano-major-fight-Aruba-met-Adult-Friend-Finder.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

CCTV shows 'major fight between Robyn Gardner and Aruba murder suspect Gary Giordano' as friend claims the pair met on swingers sex site

Surveillance footage said to show pair having violent fight in hotel
Suspect reportedly can be heard screaming: 'I'll kill you!'
 ::snipping2::

By PAUL BENTLEY
Last updated at 5:15 PM on 31st August 2011

Shocking CCTV footage shows missing American tourist Robyn Gardner having a violent fight with her travel companion hours before her disappearance in Aruba, it was claimed today.

Prime murder suspect Gary Giordano, who friends said she met on a swingers sex site, is alleged to have threatened to kill her while grabbing her by the neck and shoving her into an elevator on August 2 - the last day Miss Gardner, 35, was seen alive.

Mr Giordano, a 50-year-old businessman from Maryland, travelled to Aruba with Miss Gardner on July 31 and reported her missing two days later, saying she disappeared while they were snorkelling. He has not been charged but is being questioned in jail after witnesses claimed he was sweating profusely on that day, with blood next to him on the beach and a large scratch mark on his throat.

 ::snipping2::

The videotape from the Marriott Resort in Aruba allegedly shows the two having a furious and violent fight on the day she went missing.

A source close to the investigation told the National Enquirer: 'They were having a major fight. Robyn was waving her arms and shouting at Giordano. He was grabbing her arms and jerking her around and shouting back at her.

 ::snipping2::

'Then Giordano apparently realised their argument was heating up in public where someone might overhear them. He violently grabbed the back of Robyn's neck with one hand and shoved her back into the elevator with the other hand.'

As Mr Giordano faces a court hearing today to determine whether he can be held without charge in jail for another 60 days of questioning, police in Aruba believe the CCTV footage is what they need to keep him detained.

'Aruban authorities believe those few, crucial seconds of video tape will give them what they need to put Gary Giordano in prison for life,' the source added.

The tapes are now said to have been sent to the FBI and to surveillance experts in Holland for further analysis.

The source said lip-readers believe Robyn was shouting at Mr Giordano: 'I'm out of here. I'm leaving. I'm not spending another minute with you,' while he yelled back: 'Get back here! I'll kill you!'

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032199/Robyn-Gardner-Gary-Giordano-major-fight-Aruba-met-Adult-Friend-Finder.html#ixzz1WdQIPIqb


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 03:28:05 PM
Holy chit! Thank you Texasmom!

I wonder if they met on Fubar? Or AdultFriendFinder?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Curly on August 31, 2011, 03:31:04 PM
Holy chit! Thank you Texasmom!

I wonder if they met on Fubar? Or AdultFriendFinder?

I thought they originally said they met on Match.com and that's where she met Richard Forrester as well.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 03:32:52 PM
This is a really good read...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?gl=us&source=mog&q=cache:tsAj5fCix-AJ:news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId%3D281474980093178

Snipped:
For instance, the most recent disappearance involves 35-year-old Robyn Gardner who vanished while on a trip to Aruba. Robyn Gardner used the name "Elle Gardner" on her MM profile, with a small selection of provocative photographs.

Snipped:
The cousin of missing Tennessee nursing student Holly Bobo is also an aspiring model, whose public MySpace profile indicates that a year ago, she was intending on meeting a photographer online who specializes in erotic photography.

Snipped:
Another missing woman in the news, Christiana Fesmire, vanished in early July. She also took interest in amateur modeling and also dabbled around on Model Mayhem. Her MM profile page shows a myriad of provocative, yet tasteful photos.


Check out this article: http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/predators-lurk-on-internet_2011-08-28.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 03:34:24 PM
Holy chit! Thank you Texasmom!

I wonder if they met on Fubar? Or AdultFriendFinder?

I thought they originally said they met on Match.com and that's where she met Richard Forrester as well.

That what a couple people reported to the media but I personally think, due to other reports, that these same people just presented the "cleaned up version" to save face.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: labubske on August 31, 2011, 03:37:36 PM
This is a really good read...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?gl=us&source=mog&q=cache:tsAj5fCix-AJ:news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId%3D281474980093178

Snipped:
For instance, the most recent disappearance involves 35-year-old Robyn Gardner who vanished while on a trip to Aruba. Robyn Gardner used the name "Elle Gardner" on her MM profile, with a small selection of provocative photographs.

Snipped:
The cousin of missing Tennessee nursing student Holly Bobo is also an aspiring model, whose public MySpace profile indicates that a year ago, she was intending on meeting a photographer online who specializes in erotic photography.

Snipped:
Another missing woman in the news, Christiana Fesmire, vanished in early July. She also took interest in amateur modeling and also dabbled around on Model Mayhem. Her MM profile page shows a myriad of provocative, yet tasteful photos.


Check out this article: http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/predators-lurk-on-internet_2011-08-28.html

There are quite a few more that are associated with Model Mayhem...I posted that the other day...Kayla Croft is one and I cannot remember the other few...I will have to back and look.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Curly on August 31, 2011, 03:44:03 PM
Holy chit! Thank you Texasmom!

I wonder if they met on Fubar? Or AdultFriendFinder?

I thought they originally said they met on Match.com and that's where she met Richard Forrester as well.

That what a couple people reported to the media but I personally think, due to other reports, that these same people just presented the "cleaned up version" to save face.

That sounds logical, Titch.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on August 31, 2011, 03:51:52 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/giordano-stood-to-collect-on-15-million-insurance-policy/2011/08/31/gIQASpa2rJ_blog.html

Posted at 11:24 AM ET, 08/31/2011
Giordano stood to collect on $1.5 million insurance policy
By Dan Morse

 ::snipping2::

The judge likely will rule one of three ways at the end of Wednesday’s hearing:

Order Giordano held for another 60 days. This would start the clock ticking toward criminal charges being filed and a trial being held. There still could be a delay in a trial, but in general the trial would be expected to commence within two or three months.

Order Giordano released from prison on the condition he remain in Aruba. This would be an indication that police and prosecutors are continuing their case.

Order Giordano released from prison and declare he is free to leave Aruba. That would mean the judge has ruled the prosecutors didn’t present enough evidence to hold him.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 03:53:37 PM
This is a really good read...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?gl=us&source=mog&q=cache:tsAj5fCix-AJ:news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId%3D281474980093178

Snipped:
For instance, the most recent disappearance involves 35-year-old Robyn Gardner who vanished while on a trip to Aruba. Robyn Gardner used the name "Elle Gardner" on her MM profile, with a small selection of provocative photographs.

Snipped:
The cousin of missing Tennessee nursing student Holly Bobo is also an aspiring model, whose public MySpace profile indicates that a year ago, she was intending on meeting a photographer online who specializes in erotic photography.

Snipped:
Another missing woman in the news, Christiana Fesmire, vanished in early July. She also took interest in amateur modeling and also dabbled around on Model Mayhem. Her MM profile page shows a myriad of provocative, yet tasteful photos.


Check out this article: http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/predators-lurk-on-internet_2011-08-28.html

There are quite a few more that are associated with Model Mayhem...I posted that the other day...Kayla Croft is one and I cannot remember the other few...I will have to back and look.

IMO, the successful models would never stoop to modelmayhem. MM is like the place to advertise ifa model can't make it with the bigwigs, or else they're just very naive & gullible. For instance, Venus swimsuit & wannabe playmates advertise themselves on there. Amateur producers & photogs do the same.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/giordano-stood-to-collect-on-15-million-insurance-policy/2011/08/31/gIQASpa2rJ_blog.html

Posted at 11:24 AM ET, 08/31/2011
Giordano stood to collect on $1.5 million insurance policy
By Dan Morse

 ::snipping2::

The judge likely will rule one of three ways at the end of Wednesday’s hearing:

Order Giordano held for another 60 days. This would start the clock ticking toward criminal charges being filed and a trial being held. There still could be a delay in a trial, but in general the trial would be expected to commence within two or three months.

Order Giordano released from prison on the condition he remain in Aruba. This would be an indication that police and prosecutors are continuing their case.

Order Giordano released from prison and declare he is free to leave Aruba. That would mean the judge has ruled the prosecutors didn’t present enough evidence to hold him.

 ::snipping2::


Thanks Grace

I have mixed emotions.

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on August 31, 2011, 03:56:32 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/giordano-stood-to-collect-on-15-million-insurance-policy/2011/08/31/gIQASpa2rJ_blog.html

Posted at 11:24 AM ET, 08/31/2011
Giordano stood to collect on $1.5 million insurance policy
By Dan Morse

 ::snipping2::

The judge likely will rule one of three ways at the end of Wednesday’s hearing:

Order Giordano held for another 60 days. This would start the clock ticking toward criminal charges being filed and a trial being held. There still could be a delay in a trial, but in general the trial would be expected to commence within two or three months.

Order Giordano released from prison on the condition he remain in Aruba. This would be an indication that police and prosecutors are continuing their case.

Order Giordano released from prison and declare he is free to leave Aruba. That would mean the judge has ruled the prosecutors didn’t present enough evidence to hold him.

 ::snipping2::


If he's not detained for another 60 days, could the US proceed to investigate &/or prosecute? Like maybe civil liability? Or maybe even deeper since Robyn is a US citizen?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 04:11:43 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/giordano-stood-to-collect-on-15-million-insurance-policy/2011/08/31/gIQASpa2rJ_blog.html

Posted at 11:24 AM ET, 08/31/2011
Giordano stood to collect on $1.5 million insurance policy
By Dan Morse

 ::snipping2::

The judge likely will rule one of three ways at the end of Wednesday’s hearing:

Order Giordano held for another 60 days. This would start the clock ticking toward criminal charges being filed and a trial being held. There still could be a delay in a trial, but in general the trial would be expected to commence within two or three months.

Order Giordano released from prison on the condition he remain in Aruba. This would be an indication that police and prosecutors are continuing their case.

Order Giordano released from prison and declare he is free to leave Aruba. That would mean the judge has ruled the prosecutors didn’t present enough evidence to hold him.

 ::snipping2::


Thanks Grace

I have mixed emotions.

Janet


b]THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE[/b]

Original Ruling Reversed

Aruba suspect’s father says son to be released
dated 9/1/2005 8:08:36 PM


<snipped>

The judge in the case issued two rulings: In the first, he agreed with prosecutors' request to extend the period of van der Sloot's pretrial detention by 30 more days.

But later Thursday, the judge issued another ruling that sided with the defense — an order to immediately suspend the execution of his earlier pretrial detention order.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9163292/


Released with Restrictions

Suspects in teen’s disappearance released
updated 9/3/2005 7:30:04 PM ET


SAINT NICOLAAS, Aruba - All three suspects in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager were released from jail Saturday in a setback for the prosecution and the biggest blow yet to Natalee Holloway’s family.

Joran van der Sloot, an 18-year-old Dutchman, and two Surinamese brothers, Satish Kalpoe, 18 and Deepak Kalpoe, 21, were released on condition they remain in Dutch territory and be available to police for questioning.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9188932/


Restrictions Lifted

Aruba court lifts curbs on three suspects in missing teen case
September 27, 2005


“An Aruban court has ruled that three suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway can remain free without conditions.”

“Wednesday's ruling overturned an earlier decision that restricted the suspects' travel and required them to remain available to investigators. The appeals court said there was a "lack of sufficient grounds and serious suspicions" to keep the restrictions on the three men. Joran van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers -- Deepak and Satish Kalpoe -- are suspects in the May 30 disappearance of the Alabama teen. They were released from jail on September 3rd on the condition they remain available for questioning.

<snipped>

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=3857796&nav=0RdEeaxB



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 04:55:19 PM
HLN

Gary Giordano will remain apprehended for another sixty days.

Janet
1:55 PM PT


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on August 31, 2011, 04:58:21 PM
HLN

Gary Giordano will remain apprehended for another sixty days.

Janet
1:55 PM PT

Thanks, Janet!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: pharlap on August 31, 2011, 05:11:48 PM
HLN

Gary Giordano will remain apprehended for another sixty days.

Janet
1:55 PM PT

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::CowboySmiley::
Thanks, Janet!  ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 05:15:55 PM
Aruba Judge Keeps Gary Giordano in Jail 60 More Days in Robyn Gardner Case
ARUBA Aug. 31, 2011


A judge in Aruba ordered Gary Giordano, the lone suspect in the disappearance of Maryland woman Robyn Gardner, to remain in jail for another 60 days while police press their investigation.

Gardner's mother, Andrea Colson issued a statement after the judge's ruling saying, "We have faith and confidence in the Aruban Authorities and FBI, and know that they will fervently continue their efforts to find Robyn."

"This has been such a difficult time for all of us and your prayers have given us strength. We need to find our daughter. We pray that anyone who knows what happened that day will find the strength to contact authorities immediately. And we continue to ask everyone to keep praying for our Robyn so that she will be found soon," the statement said.

The Aruba prosecutor's office issued a statement urging "people who can give any information about the suspect... to contact the Aruban Police in person or via the special tip line 11141. Persons who want to volunteer information from outside of Aruba are asked to make use of the number 297-582-0695."

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-judge-orders-robyn-gardner-suspect-stay-jail/story?id=14418807


 ::justice2NJ::

 



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 31, 2011, 05:32:08 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/36192-detencion-di-sospechoso-mericano-gg-alarga.html

Papiamentu translation:

detencion of sospechoso mericano g.g. alarga (lengthens)

wednesday, 31 august 2011 16:41

huez comisario owing to dicidi today for give ordo for alarga the detencion of he mericano g.v.g., sospecha of envolvimiento in the posible hogamento of the muher mericano r.g. on 2 of august 2019, cu one termino of 60 day. this on peticion of ministerio publico aruba. ministerio publico y cuerpo policial aruba is once more ripiti the peticion urgente at personanan cu can give informacion tocante the sospechoso g.v.g. for acudi at keep of police or calling the tiplijn at 11141. for tips by merca owing to open one liñea of telephone separa y esey is 011-297-5820695. on the number here can let one message. come across


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 31, 2011, 05:47:10 PM
HLN

Gary Giordano will remain apprehended for another sixty days.

Janet
1:55 PM PT

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::CowboySmiley::
Thanks, Janet!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Considering Gary Giorgano is not the son an Aruban/Dutch elite ... could it be that justice will prevail for Robyn Gardner.

Janet

++++++


JOY BEHAR SHOW
Aired August 18, 2011 - 22:00   ET


<snipped>

HILL: The Aruban authorities continue investigating.

Beth, when you look at the steps that had been taken. They`ve stopped him. I mean he went passed the Aruban -- sort of arm of law and they were able to bring him back in. Do you get a sense that perhaps they`re doing a better job?

HOLLOWAY: I do. I`m still guarded though and I do hope they prove me wrong and show me what Dutch law can really do with a perpetrator on their island. I am very encouraged so far. So I just want to -- just see how this proceeds.
 
<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/18/joy.01.html



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 31, 2011, 06:04:43 PM
Aruba Judge Extends Detention of U.S. Suspect in Missing Woman Case
Published August 31, 2011 | FoxNews.com
 
AP

This undated handout photo, released by the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on Tuesday, Aug. 9, 2011, shows Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Maryland.

A judge in Aruba has ruled authorities can continue to detain a U.S. man while they investigate the presumed death of his travel companion.

 ::snipping2::

Giordano has been held nearly a month since he reported 35-year-old Robyn Gardner disappeared while snorkeling. The ruling extends his detention for 60 more days.

 ::snipping2::

The judge's ruling has not been made public, but a statement from prosecutors describes the decision.

"We have faith and confidence in the Aruban Authorities and FBI, and know that they will fervently continue their efforts to find Robyn," said Andrea Colson, Gardner's mother said in a statement following the sentence.

"We are grateful for their hard work and we are also grateful for the overwhelming support from communities all around the world. This has been such a difficult time for all of us and your prayers have given us strength. We need to find our daughter," she continued.

"We pray that anyone who knows what happened that day will find the strength to contact authorities immediately. And we continue to ask everyone to keep praying for our Robyn so that she will be found soon," she said.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/31/aruba-judge-extends-detention-us-suspect-in-missing-woman-case/#ixzz1We8G9yzb


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on August 31, 2011, 06:20:15 PM
 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 31, 2011, 08:47:36 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/36192-detencion-di-sospechoso-mericano-gg-alarga.html

Papiamentu translation:

detencion of sospechoso mericano g.g. alarga (lengthens)

wednesday, 31 august 2011 16:41

huez comisario owing to dicidi today for give ordo for alarga the detencion of he mericano g.v.g., sospecha of envolvimiento in the posible hogamento of the muher mericano r.g. on 2 of august 2019, cu one termino of 60 day. this on peticion of ministerio publico aruba. ministerio publico y cuerpo policial aruba is once more ripiti the peticion urgente at personanan cu can give informacion tocante the sospechoso g.v.g. for acudi at keep of police or calling the tiplijn at 11141. for tips by merca owing to open one liñea of telephone separa y esey is 011-297-5820695. on the number here can let one message. come across

http://arubaherald.com/911/961-american-suspect-gvg-remains-in-custody-in-aruba.html

American suspect G.V.G. remains in custody in Aruba         
Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:44
 
   
The Examining Magistrate has ruled today that the American man G.V.G., suspected of involvement in the possible drowning of the American woman R.G. on the 2nd of august 2011, will remain in custody for a period of sixty (60) more days.

This was done on request of the Prosecutor’s Office Aruba. The Prosecutor’s Office and the Aruban Police Force hereby once more urge people who can give any information about the suspect G.V.G. to contact the Aruban Police in person or via the special tip line 11141.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 31, 2011, 09:37:00 PM
I think this is a case record on Gary's dad, Frank.  I only found one other record for not wearing his seat belt last year.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=00112356C6&loc=32&detailLoc=DSCR

Case Information

Court System:   DISTRICT COURT FOR BALTIMORE COUNTY - CRIMINAL SYSTEM
Case Number:   00112356C6Tracking No:0000112356C6
Case Type:   CRIMINAL
District Code:   08Location Code:04
Document Type:   STATEMENT OF CHARGESIssued Date:01/01/1994
Case Status:   CLOSEDCase Disposition:TRIAL
Defendant Information

Defendant Name:   GIORDANO, FRANK VINCENT
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   MHeight:511Weight:200DOB:08/28/1936
Address:   4344 HALLFIELD MANOR DR
City:   BALTIMOREState:MDZip Code:21236 - 0000
Charge and Disposition Information

(Each Charge is listed separately. The disposition is listed below the Charge)
Charge No:   001Description:BATTERY
Statute:   CLDescription:BATTERY
Amended Date:   CJIS Code:2 1313MO/PLL:Probable Cause:X
Incident Date From:      To:      Victim Age:   
Disposition

Plea:   OTHER PLEA
Disposition:   STET Disposition Date:03/17/1994
Fine:$0.00Court Costs:$0.00CICF:$0.00
Amt Suspended:   Fine:$0.00Court Costs:$0.00CICF:$0.00
PBJ EndDate:   Probation End Date:Restitution Amount:$0.00
Jail Term:   Yrs:Mos:Days:
Suspended Term:   Yrs:Mos:Days:
Credit Time Served:   
Related Person Information

(Each Person related to the case other than the Defendant is shown)
Name:YEATER, JOSEPH
Connection:COMPLAINANT/POLICE OFFICER
Agency Code:   AEAgency Sub-Code:PC6Officer ID:3280
Name:WILLIAMS, SANDY
Connection:ASSISTANT STATES ATTORNEY
Address:   COUNTY COURTS BUILDING
401 BOSLEY AVENUE
City:   TOWSONState:MDZip Code:21204 - 0000
Event History Information

Event   Date   Comment
DOCI   01/01/1994   SC ISSUED 940101
INIT   01/01/1994   940101;00000000.00;ROR ;100; ;8043


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So what does STET mean?

http://forums.officer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-73934.html

Taylor1430
 ::snipping2::
The Stet Docket is an inactive docket maintained by the State's Attorney's office. If a case is placed on the Stet Docket, the Defendant must waive his/her right to a speedy trial in the original case. The case remains on the Stet Docket for a period of one year, during that time, either the Defendant or the State (very unlikely) can ask the Court to place the case back on the active docket for trial. There may be conditions of placing the case on the Stet Docket, a common example of such a condition is no contact between the Defendant and the victim/complainant.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on August 31, 2011, 09:39:56 PM
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stet

Legal Dictionary

Main Entry: stet
Pronunciation: 'stet
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, let it stand, third person singular present subjunctive of stare  to stand
:  an order staying all proceedings in an action —used esp. in Maryland


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 01, 2011, 12:33:12 PM
So he either killed her, or gave her to someone either way where is she?
He didn't have much time to dump her body unless he kept her somewhere, when he said she was missing  but where.Having a hard time posting today still no power sighhhhhhh
 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 01, 2011, 03:15:13 PM
http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=3855

Detention extended in Aruba missing woman case
Posted by Aruba Daily on August 31st, 2011

 ::snipping2::

At the end of the 60 days, prosecutors can ask the judge to extend the detention further or they can bring him to trial. Solicitor General Taco Stein said they are considering a range of possible charges, including murder, manslaughter, accidental death and insurance fraud.

Prosecutors have not disclosed any evidence against Giordano but have said he gave inconsistent accounts about the 35-year-old woman’s disappearance. They also confirmed he was the beneficiary of a $1.5 million accidental death insurance policy he took out on her.

Stein said before the ruling that prosecutors provided the judge with the findings of the investigation so far but did not reveal all the evidence against Giordano.

“There are some things we still need to confront him with,” Stein said.

He also said investigators still need to hear from witnesses who saw Gardner and Giordano on the island. The missing woman’s mother, Andrea Colson, echoed that thought in a statement issued in response to the judge’s ruling.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 01, 2011, 03:49:39 PM
Not related, but a short mention.

"EL Diario" reports that Joran Van der Sloot's mother registered his name, as a copyright/trademark thing... as a commercial name.

Doesn't this stuff gets a little weirder every day?

http://www.diario.aw/

-------

About Robin, if I were the police down there, I would search all ships that departed that night, in case he paid someone to get rid of the body at sea.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 01, 2011, 04:07:49 PM
Video.  Towels and dress seen by witness?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-judge-suspect-custody-14426695?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=14426693

Aruba Mystery: Judge Keeps Suspect in Custody Gary Giordano will remain in Aruban police custody for an additional 60 days.
02:31 | 09/01/2011


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 01, 2011, 06:14:34 PM
Video

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/holloway-lawyer-discusses-aruban-legal-process-14426728?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=14426693

Holloway Family Lawyer on Aruba
John Kelly represents missing teenager Natalee Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty.

 03:49 | 09/01/2011



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 01, 2011, 07:20:32 PM
Video.  Towels and dress seen by witness?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-judge-suspect-custody-14426695?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=14426693

Aruba Mystery: Judge Keeps Suspect in Custody Gary Giordano will remain in Aruban police custody for an additional 60 days.
02:31 | 09/01/2011


Thanks Grace

Has there been any prior reports that Robin's dress and towels were recovered from the beach?

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 01, 2011, 08:40:20 PM
Interesting that Lopez is also in the Media business:

Michael Lopez's Experience
Director
Media Management Group


Publishing industry

January 2007 – Present (4 years 9 months)

Publishing, Media & Advertising Co.

House of Focus Caribbean Magazine
Cumprami (advertising leaflet)
Lawyer
LopezLaw Attorneys At Law - Councellors

Law Practice industry

August 1999 – Present (12 years 2 months)

Law Office - Legal councelling

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-lopez/14/350/a44


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 01, 2011, 09:23:06 PM
http://www.kvk.aw/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=6351

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 22 DECEMBER 1986 under serial number 6384.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
MEDIA MANAGEMENT GROUP

 
Business address   ANASASTRAAT 4, ORANJESTAD OOST
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   WHERE TO GO FOR WHAT N.V.
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   21 NOVEMBER 1986
    
Authorized capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 29,500.00
Paid up capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 29,500.00
Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

DIJKHOFF, AURORA VIOLETA;
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 16 DECEMBER 1957
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   01 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
LOPEZ, MICHAEL OMAR;
Born in   THE NETHERLANDS, AMSTERDAM on 08 SEPTEMBER 1959
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   01 JANUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
A.   HET UITGEVEN, WAARONDER HET REDIGEREN, DRUKKEN, DISTRIBUEREN VAN TIJDSCHRIFTEN, BROCHURES EN ANDERE GESCHREVEN COMMUNICATIE MEDIA;
B.   HET ONTWERPEN VAN RECLAME-TEKSTEN EN RECLAME BOODSCHAPPEN.

Google translation:

A. PUBLISH IT, INCLUDING THE EDITING, PRINTING, DISTRIBUTION OF MAGAZINES, BROCHURES AND OTHER WRITTEN COMMUNICATION MEDIA;
B. DESIGNING ADVERTISING TEXT MESSAGES AND ADVERTISEMENTS.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 01, 2011, 10:01:51 PM
Video.  Towels and dress seen by witness?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-judge-suspect-custody-14426695?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=14426693

Aruba Mystery: Judge Keeps Suspect in Custody Gary Giordano will remain in Aruban police custody for an additional 60 days.
02:31 | 09/01/2011


Thanks Grace

Has there been any prior reports that Robin's dress and towels were recovered from the beach?

Janet

I haven't read other reports about her dress or the towels.  If the authorities have them, maybe they have her shoes and purse, too? 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 01, 2011, 10:43:32 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/09/01/aruba.missing.woman/

Lawyer: Man accused in woman's disppearance in Aruba will appeal

From Martin Savidge, CNN

September 1, 2011 6:25 p.m. EDT

Oranjestad, Aruba (CNN) -- A Maryland man, detained in Aruba in connection with the disappearance of an American woman, plans to appeal a recent ruling keeping him behind bars for another 60 days, his lawyer said Thursday.

Michael Lopez, attorney for Gary Giordano, told CNN that he and his team will work through the weekend to file their appeal in an Aruban court Monday.

That would set up a legal showdown as early as next week, when a three-judge appellate panel could affirm the earlier ruling and keep Giordano in custody or else set him free.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 01, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 01, 2011, 11:17:05 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08312011_HFRG_MariaTromp.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

Bethsarim Catherine van Koetsveld-Briñez Rather than put this on Aruba, thank the lawyers that found enough reasonable doubt to detain him... Do we watch the same Law and Order Shows? I'm really wondering why you all think that meddling in an investigation is the reasonable course of action and labeling a whole country because in one case there was not enough material evidence to hold... I understand every one wants her to be found... but enough with the aruba bashing
Yesterday at 5:36pm

 ::snipping2::

Tromp Maria mrs. beth what is this? damage control just like those people doing that dirty job for briesen when Natalee went missing, while they all knew what happened to Natalee. Just let the american public give their opinion, if you don't agree with them then just go to our government(Minister of Justice) and ask him to get aid fr abroad to solve all the missing cases, all unsolved crimes and all hidden crimes on this island......i'll keep praying for Robyn and all missing person!
Yesterday at 9:56pm

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyCool:: 

God bless Maria Tromp for speaking the truth.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 02, 2011, 12:36:34 PM
Carla Baron
And just an aside, R. Forester... I don't need to "solicit" high profile cases, or grieving family members, or BF's/ GF's 4 more media attention. My show Haunting Evidence is in worldwide syndication currently, and enough people are aware. More than enough. Oh - and YOU were the one who contacted me right here on my FB wall, remember? (Aug 12th) Saved the posts & emails in case you forgot.
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150363354896329&id=130633511328


Robyn if there's anyway for you to see this page thats entirely for u please read it, see how much you are loved, by not only me, friends and family, but the amount of people from across the world that are here supporting you -people you don't even know. We all want you home now and will do everything to make that possible. Stay strong and know that we are working this day and night. I love you and I miss you so much :'(
GG-I hope you see how much you are hated worldwide. You're done. - RF


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 02, 2011, 04:04:41 PM
With video

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-appealing-jail-stay/story?id=14434350

Aruba Murder Suspect Appealing Extended Jail Stay
By ASHLEIGH BANFIELD (@ABCAshleigh) , JASON STINE, ALEXA MIRANDA and JESSICA HOPPER (@jesshop23)
Sept. 2, 2011

 ::snipping2::

If Giordano is forced to stay in jail, his time behind bars will be more comfortable than his first month. Giordano has a telephone, email, media and TV privileges. While he'll have no visitors, he is allowed two phone calls a day. It's a far cry from the unlimited use of his personal cell phone before he was arrested. His outgoing message still sounds upbeat.

 ::snipping2::

Giordano's appeal will go before a three judge panel. In the meantime, a source told ABC News that FBI investigators working the case in the United States are struggling to get information from the Aruban authorities. The source said the FBI is considering enlisting the help of international diplomatic channels to try to increase the cooperation of Aruban authorities.

 ::snipping2::

The source also told ABC News that there may have been several other women that Giordano took away on trips and for whom he also purchased insurance.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cadillac on September 02, 2011, 06:21:49 PM
Grace-land touched on this and I have been thinking about it recently...

For arguement's sake, let's say she did drown.  He goes to get help and then LE is called in.  We all know he tried to leave the country and he said she was leaving on another plane (did I dream that?).  Anyway, where is her stuff?  If she really did drown, wouldn't he have packed it and returned it to her family or LE?  If he left her stuff at a hotel, doesn't that show lack of concern for her as well?  Were all of her bathing suits accounted for, if she WAS snorkeling (which we know she wasn't) but would not one of them be missing.  I bet her friend could account for that.

It just seems her personal belongings could reveal alot of clues.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 02, 2011, 07:20:04 PM
Grace-land touched on this and I have been thinking about it recently...

For arguement's sake, let's say she did drown.  He goes to get help and then LE is called in.  We all know he tried to leave the country and he said she was leaving on another plane (did I dream that?).  Anyway, where is her stuff?  If she really did drown, wouldn't he have packed it and returned it to her family or LE?  If he left her stuff at a hotel, doesn't that show lack of concern for her as well?  Were all of her bathing suits accounted for, if she WAS snorkeling (which we know she wasn't) but would not one of them be missing.  I bet her friend could account for that.

It just seems her personal belongings could reveal alot of clues.

Also ... If Robyn went into the water as Giordono claims ... her dress and platform shoes that she was wearing two hours prior to being reported missing should have been accounted for.  In a video posted yesterday by Grace ... apparently a witness reported seeing Robyn's dress on the beach.

Janet

+++++


Robyn Gardner Missing: Search For Maryland Woman In Aruba Unsuccessful
[Photos & Video]
August 11, 2011


<snipped>

Giordano searched for Gardner and spoke with police, only deciding to leave Aruba after the woman’s mother arrived in the country and he received permission from a U.S. consulate official in Curacao, the lawyer said.

<snipped>

http://www.innewstoday.net/robyn-gardner-missing-search-for-maryland-woman-in-aruba-unsuccessful/


Missing in Aruba: Suspect Took Out $1.5 Million Insurance Policy
Aug. 17, 2011


<snipped>
 
Three days after the search for Gardner began, Giordano got within feet of leaving the country before he was stopped at Aruba's airport, after passing through security and U.S. customs -- where he told customs he had to change flights because of weather, and inexplicably told officials that his travel companion was "taking another flight."   When arrested, authorities say Giordano was drenched in sweat.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-aruba-suspect-15-million-insurance-policy/story?id=14321496



Video.  Towels and dress seen by witness?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-judge-suspect-custody-14426695?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=14426693

Aruba Mystery: Judge Keeps Suspect in Custody Gary Giordano will remain in Aruban police custody for an additional 60 days.
02:31 | 09/01/2011




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 02, 2011, 07:20:23 PM
The office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba releases still shot and video of possible witness in missing of US tourist

 The Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba again calls on the public to give information to the police about the man G.V.G. who was arrested August 5, 2011 as a suspect in the investigation into the possible drowning of the American woman R.G. on August 2, 2011.

 After releasing photos of the suspect, the woman R.G. and the white Toyota Rav 4 with licence number V-787 on August 11 and 24, 2011, the Office of the Public Prosecutor has decided today to publish a still shot and part of a video of a security camera of the JADS Dive Center the afternoon of the alleged drowning of the woman.

 A white Hyundai Getz can be seen on the still shot and the video, driving in northern direction at about 17.59 PM on the road between the Rum Reef Restaurant and the sea. Following the statements of the suspect G.V.G., the driver of this car and the passengers could have seen the white Toyota RAV 4, the rental car the suspect and the woman R.G. drove during their stay on Aruba, parked near the sea behind the Rum Reef Restaurant. It is possible that they have also seen the man G.V.G. and the woman R.G. The Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba urgently requests the driver of this Hyundai Getz and/or the passengers to contact the Police of Aruba or to call the tip-line at 11141. A separate phone line for tips has been opened in the United States. The number is: 297 582 0695, preceded by the international access code. At this line a message can be recorded.

 The man G.V.G. and the woman R.G. arrived in Aruba together on July 31, 2011. according to the statement of the suspect the woman remained in sea near Nanki, after he had come out of the water after snorkeling together.


Edited to add:  Copied from a post of Glenda's at RU to could contain possible incorrect information  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Blonde:  In the future, just post that you got it from Glenda or whoever at RU.  What you posted above is verbatim from Glenda at RU and we all know how she sometimes changes words around.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 02, 2011, 07:50:28 PM
Aruba Murder Suspect Appealing Extended Jail Stay
Sept. 2, 2011

 
Gary Giordano, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, plans to challenge an order by an Aruban judge to hold him in jail for an additional 60 days on the Caribbean island.

Giordano's attorney Michael Lopez plans to file the appeal by Monday, the Associated Press reported. An Aruban judge ordered that Giordano's stay in jail be extended on Wednesday.

<snipped>

If Giordano is forced to stay in jail, his time behind bars will be more comfortable than his first month. Giordano has a telephone, email, media and TV privileges. While he'll have no visitors, he is allowed two phone calls a day. It's a far cry from the unlimited use of his personal cell phone before he was arrested. His outgoing message still sounds upbeat.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-appealing-jail-stay/story?id=14434350
 



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 02, 2011, 08:01:18 PM
Aruba Murder Suspect Appealing Extended Jail Stay
Sept. 2, 2011


<snipped>

In the meantime, a source told ABC News that FBI investigators working the case in the United States are struggling to get information from the Aruban authorities. The source said the FBI is considering enlisting the help of international diplomatic channels to try to increase the cooperation of Aruban authorities.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-appealing-jail-stay/story?id=14434350

Did the FBI consider "enlisting the help of international diplomatic channels to try to   increase the cooperation of Aruba Authorities" in the Natalee Holloway case?

Janet

++++++

Never Passed the Ball

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 184: Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute


No Invitation Extended

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman
:  The Arubans told us there wasn't anything of interest in the trap based on the visual-only inspection (Dateline and Tim Miller present).
 
Kyle Kingman:  John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word

Kyle Kingman:  Aruban divers deemed the cage to be not case related, and therefore Aruba had no interest in it.  At that point, I made the statement to all on board that we do have an interest and that we would recover the cage ourselves.  That is when Mos said they would dive on it but it would take 1 -2 weeks for a forensics team to arrive and that he would let Persistence know.

Kyle Kingman:  The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.

Kermit/jen3560 - Scared Monkeys

 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 02, 2011, 09:21:24 PM
Aruba Murder Suspect Appealing Extended Jail Stay
Sept. 2, 2011


<snipped>

In the meantime, a source told ABC News that FBI investigators working the case in the United States are struggling to get information from the Aruban authorities. The source said the FBI is considering enlisting the help of international diplomatic channels to try to increase the cooperation of Aruban authorities.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-appealing-jail-stay/story?id=14434350

Did the FBI consider "enlisting the help of international diplomatic channels to try to   increase the cooperation of Aruba Authorities" in the Natalee Holloway case?

Janet

++++++

Never Passed the Ball

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 184: Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute


No Invitation Extended

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman
:  The Arubans told us there wasn't anything of interest in the trap based on the visual-only inspection (Dateline and Tim Miller present).
 
Kyle Kingman:  John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word

Kyle Kingman:  Aruban divers deemed the cage to be not case related, and therefore Aruba had no interest in it.  At that point, I made the statement to all on board that we do have an interest and that we would recover the cage ourselves.  That is when Mos said they would dive on it but it would take 1 -2 weeks for a forensics team to arrive and that he would let Persistence know.

Kyle Kingman:  The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.

Kermit/jen3560 - Scared Monkeys

 

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/kermit4u2003/Beth%20Twitty/Beth11.jpg)

Look at the look on Beth's face - how could ANYONE do what they did to that poor mother.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 02, 2011, 09:29:07 PM
Grace-land touched on this and I have been thinking about it recently...

For arguement's sake, let's say she did drown.  He goes to get help and then LE is called in.  We all know he tried to leave the country and he said she was leaving on another plane (did I dream that?).  Anyway, where is her stuff?  If she really did drown, wouldn't he have packed it and returned it to her family or LE?  If he left her stuff at a hotel, doesn't that show lack of concern for her as well?  Were all of her bathing suits accounted for, if she WAS snorkeling (which we know she wasn't) but would not one of them be missing.  I bet her friend could account for that.

It just seems her personal belongings could reveal alot of clues.


I highly doubt that she drowned - they float back to shore in Aruba.


(http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/Aruba_man_drown_small.jpg)
The picture is from this past weeks Amigoe where a presumed homeless man was found drown floating near the shore at Bikker & Gomez at




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 03, 2011, 12:03:27 AM
With video.  New photo of a car is below article.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/New-Photo-Released-in-Aruba-Investigation-129168298.html

New Photo Released in Aruba Investigation
Friday, Sep 2, 2011  |  Updated 9:07 PM EDT

Aruban prosecutors released a surveillance image of a car in their search for witnesses in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner.

At 5:59 p.m. Aug. 2, the day Gardner disappeared, a white Hyundai Getz was headed north between the Rum Reef Restaurant and the sea. Authorities think the people inside may have seen the rented Toyota RAV4 suspect Gary Giordano, 50, of Gaithersburg, and Gardner, 35, of Frederick, used during their trip to the island parked by the restaurant. It’s also possible they saw Giordano and Gardner, according to the prosecutor’s office.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 03, 2011, 04:06:42 AM
With video.  New photo of a car is below article.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/New-Photo-Released-in-Aruba-Investigation-129168298.html

New Photo Released in Aruba Investigation
Friday, Sep 2, 2011  |  Updated 9:07 PM EDT

Aruban prosecutors released a surveillance image of a car in their search for witnesses in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner.

At 5:59 p.m. Aug. 2, the day Gardner disappeared, a white Hyundai Getz was headed north between the Rum Reef Restaurant and the sea. Authorities think the people inside may have seen the rented Toyota RAV4 suspect Gary Giordano, 50, of Gaithersburg, and Gardner, 35, of Frederick, used during their trip to the island parked by the restaurant. It’s also possible they saw Giordano and Gardner, according to the prosecutor’s office.

 ::snipping2::


(http://media.nbcbayarea.com/images/Aruba+Hyundai+Getz.JPG)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 03, 2011, 05:11:40 PM
New plea for public's help in Aruba case

 (CBS News)

 ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Authorities in Aruba made a fresh plea to the public late Friday night for any information on Gary Giordano, who is being held in the disappearance of his traveling companion, fellow American tourist Robyn Gardner.

 Though he's been detained for a month, reports CBS News correspondent Elaine Quijano, Girodano has yet to be charged with a crime, and has denied any wrongdoing.

 He is challenging the ruling of an Aruban judge this week that extended his incarceration in an Aruban jail by 60 days.

 His attorney, Michael Lopez, said he plans to appeal the ruling Monday before a three judge panel.

 Giordano, 50, a businessman from Gaithersburg, Md., says he was snorkeling on the island with Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Md. early last month when she vanished, apparently having been swept out to sea.

 The pair met online.  ::snipping2::



 Authorities believe Gardner is dead, but her body hasn't been found.  ::snipping2::

 On "The Early Show on Saturday Morning," famed defense attorney Rob Black, who isn't involved in this case but whose clients have included William Kennedy Smith and Rush Limbaugh, said prosecutors have their work cut out for them proving Giordano was responsible for Gardner's disappearance and presumed death.

 "It's just purely circumstantial evidence at this time," Black, speaking from Miami, told co-anchor Russ Mitchell, "and I say purely -- there obviously are some interesting facts leading up to the disappearance of this young woman. But the problem is, without a body, it is very hard to make a case like this, because how do you prove it's not accidental? So, while he has acted very strangely and there are some unusual circumstances, this is certainly not a slam-dunk case."

 To see the entire interview of Black, click on the video below:

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/03/earlyshow/saturday/main20101338.shtml?tag=exclsv


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 04, 2011, 12:26:59 AM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/3-victims-3-exotic-locales-3-mysteries/tjiaHJhfC0-4_17Nen6egw.cspx

3 victims, 3 exotic locales, 3 mysteries
         
Print Story Published: 8:32 am Share Updated: 9:06 am     

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The Robyn Gardner disappearance on Aruba resonates here in Alabama because of eerie similarities to two other cases. 

The disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway on a graduation trip to Aruba in 2005 became an international sensation as Aruban authorities questioned but never charged local teen Joran van der Sloot in the case.  Van der Sloot went on to years of notoriety punctuated by false "confessions" and wild claims on Dutch TV before surfacing again as the confessed murderer of a Peruvian student he met at a Lima poker tournament.  Van der Sloot was finally formally charged last week with killing 21 year old Stephany Flores.  Her corpse was found in his Lima hotel room five years to the day of Natalee's disappearance.

The other case with strange vibes to Gardner's disappearance is the drowning death of Tina Watson on her honeymoon in Australia.    Husband Gabe Watson was charged with murder in her death but did a guilty plea on manslaughter charges and served 18 months in an Australian prison.  He was extradited back to Alabama to face murder charges here.  State prosecutors claim he conspired to kill Tina for an insurance payout.  Watson is out on bail awaiting trial on those charges.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 04, 2011, 12:44:03 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/mmm_cereal (http://twitter.com/#!/mmm_cereal)

mmm_cereal nichole
Drinking with the ex sister in law of the woman missing in aruba. SHIT JUST GOT REAL
1 hour ago

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 04, 2011, 10:13:29 AM
Glenda wrote:


 Hahaha... As far as I know, Brunettes don't have a rep for getting into a car with 3 strangers or going to a foreign country with a stranger she met online.

 Oddly enough, they only teach Brunette's that if you play with fire, you will get burned. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 04, 2011, 10:38:12 AM
Glenda wrote:


 Hahaha... As far as I know, Brunettes don't have a rep for getting into a car with 3 strangers or going to a foreign country with a stranger she met online.

 Oddly enough, they only teach Brunette's that if you play with fire, you will get burned. ::MonkeyEek::

She's a tool

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6197/6112658644_42848dc943_o.gif)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6191/6112105095_a576f7b2d1_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Red on September 04, 2011, 11:34:04 AM
A Tale of Two Murders: Joran Van der Sloot Charged with Murder of Stephany Flores … Beth Holloway Says, “God bless the Peru authorities for handling this thoroughly and professionally”

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/09/04/a-tale-of-two-murders-joran-van-der-sloot-charged-with-murder-of-stephany-flores-beth-holloway-says-god-bless-the-peru-authorities-for-handling-this-thoroughly-and-professionally/

Call it a tale of two crimes and the tale of how two countries handled the same crime in complete contrast manners. One country lets a sociopath loose on the rest if society to kill again, the other one rightfully charges him with murder and cages the criminal protecting society.

Quote
“It was the best of times (Peru), it was the worst of times (Aruba), it was the age of wisdom (Peru), it was the age of foolishness (Aruba), it was the epoch of belief (Peru), it was the epoch of incredulity (Aruba), it was the season of Light (Peru), it was the season of Darkness (Aruba), it was the spring of hope (Peru), it was the winter of despair (Aruba), we had everything before us (Peru), we had nothing before us (Aruba), we were all going direct to Heaven (Peru), we were all going direct the other way (Aruba) –in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good (Peru) or for evil (Aruba), in the superlative degree of comparison only.”

 ::snipping2::

Why is it that Giordano and van der Sloot are not being handled the same?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 04, 2011, 03:55:12 PM

Why is it that Giordano and van der Sloot are not being handled the same?


Why?  Gary Giordano is not the son of a Aruban/Dutch elite.

Janet

++++++

From the Beginning

‘Scarborough Country’ for Oct. 21st
updated 10/23/2005 4:46:55 PM ET


BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S MOTHER: They never—they never wanted to implicate these three young men. They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. ….

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/


Defining a Cover Up

‘Rita Cosby Live & Direct’ for Dec. 5th
updated 6:18 a.m. PT, Tues., Dec. 6, 2005


BETH TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S MOTHER: Remember, within the first 24 hours, we knew who the suspects were. We knew the persons that Natalee were taken from Carlos and Charlie‘s. We knew the license plate of the gray Honda they placed her in. We knew the condition that Natalee was in. We knew the behavior or the conduct in which they engaged in with Natalee.

And then not only that within 72 hours, we knew that their first story was totally fabricated, that within the first 72 hours, I faced a room of 12 — at least 12 detectives, Aruban and Dutch detectives, and a lead detective, Dennis Jacobs (ph), and they knew after we reviewed video footage from the Holiday Inn casino lobby that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. They knew that those suspects were fabricating a story from day one.

Something that the family knew—and we have to keep reminding everyone—after 72 hours — 72 hours—we knew definitively that these suspects were not telling the truth. We knew that my daughter had never been brought back to the Holiday Inn. Of course we were becoming frustrated. Who wouldn‘t, at this point? You know, we—and what was so unbelievable about this, is they knew this information and still chose to pursue the two security guards on June the 5th.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10348437/



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 04, 2011, 04:45:23 PM
http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/09/04/robyn-gardner-can-a-psychic-see-her-way-through-the-mysterious-mists-of-the-aruba-triangle/

Robyn Gardner: Can A Psychic See Her Way Through The Mysterious Mists Of The “Aruba Triangle” ?
Posted on September 4, 2011 by Psychic Carla Baron

 ::snipping2::

I am not reading a tale from the latest best-selling crime novel.

No, this horror story is REAL.  All too real.
 

Her name is Robyn Gardner.



The predator companion is Gary Giordano.

 

You may recall an earlier version of this same scary story featuring the female victim, Natalee Holloway. The male predator – none other than accused killer, Joran van der Sloot, who is currently residing in a Peruvian prison, formally charged with first-degree murder in last year’s killing of a university student (Stephany Flores) whom he met at a Lima casino. They are seeking a 30-year jail sentence.
 
 
Enter the Psychic Profiler.
 
 
The hit paranormal crime series, “Haunting Evidence,” (truTV) was my introduction to the island of Aruba, regarding the disappearance of a beautiful young, blonde teenage girl named Natalee, wide-eyed with wonder for what her future life may hold.

During our filming on this isle just off the coast of Venezuela, not only was the terrain rougher than expected … but we were not exactly welcomed by the authorities.

In fact, the final night of filming on the beach – 2 of our crew members were sitting in the local jail. The authorities even wanted to search our hotel rooms because they were paranoid about some customs paperwork apparently misplaced, documenting our production trunks shipped via Fedex. (It’s a super long story.)

I would now like to extend my sincerest gratitude to our amazing, loyal hotel staff for protecting all our rooms & all our private things from this invasive attempted room search.

(So great they were!)
 
 
We barely had 90 minutes to “get it all,” while officers who lined the beach location where we were filming prompted us with sidearms to move it along.

(In other words. .. Get the hell out!)

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 04, 2011, 08:53:29 PM
With video.  New photo of a car is below article.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/New-Photo-Released-in-Aruba-Investigation-129168298.html

New Photo Released in Aruba Investigation
Friday, Sep 2, 2011  |  Updated 9:07 PM EDT

Aruban prosecutors released a surveillance image of a car in their search for witnesses in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner.

At 5:59 p.m. Aug. 2, the day Gardner disappeared, a white Hyundai Getz was headed north between the Rum Reef Restaurant and the sea. Authorities think the people inside may have seen the rented Toyota RAV4 suspect Gary Giordano, 50, of Gaithersburg, and Gardner, 35, of Frederick, used during their trip to the island parked by the restaurant. It’s also possible they saw Giordano and Gardner, according to the prosecutor’s office.

 ::snipping2::


(http://media.nbcbayarea.com/images/Aruba+Hyundai+Getz.JPG)

Click on the picture below to watch the short video released of the possible witness car.

http://www.awe24.com/20110902/8351/Ministerio_Publico_di_Aruba_ta_publica_foto_y_grabacion_di_posible_testigo_den

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/th_09042011_AWE24_MinisterioPublicodiArubatapublicafotoygrabaciondiposibletestigodendesaparicionmuherMericano-AWE24.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/?action=view&current=09042011_AWE24_MinisterioPublicodiArubatapublicafotoygrabaciondiposibletestigodendesaparicionmuherMericano-AWE24.mp4)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 04, 2011, 09:02:10 PM
Glenda wrote:


 Hahaha... As far as I know, Brunettes don't have a rep for getting into a car with 3 strangers or going to a foreign country with a stranger she met online.

 Oddly enough, they only teach Brunette's that if you play with fire, you will get burned. ::MonkeyEek::

She's a tool

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6197/6112658644_42848dc943_o.gif)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6191/6112105095_a576f7b2d1_b.jpg)

Yes, she is a tool. 

I'm sure a lot of people end up in situations they normally wouldn't have put themselves into after being slipped date rape drugs by predatory scumbags.

I'm also sure those predatory scumbags, and AHATA appreciate hodog "Glenda" blaming the victims.

I hope she keeps playing with fire...

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 05, 2011, 12:08:51 AM
September 3, 2011 9:46 AM
New plea for public's help in Aruba case


CBS News)  ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- Authorities in Aruba made a fresh plea to the public late Friday night for any information on Gary Giordano, who is being held in the disappearance of his traveling companion, fellow American tourist Robyn Gardner.

Though he's been detained for a month, reports CBS News correspondent Elaine Quijano, Girodano has yet to be charged with a crime, and has denied any wrongdoing.

He is challenging the ruling of an Aruban judge this week that extended his incarceration in an Aruban jail by 60 days.

His attorney, Michael Lopez, said he plans to appeal the ruling Monday before a three judge panel.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/03/earlyshow/saturday/main20101338.shtml





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 05, 2011, 02:28:56 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_ProfilePic-1.jpg)

WHERE IS ROBYN?

ARE THE AUTHORITIES IN ARUBA
STILL LOOKING FOR HER?


 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 05, 2011, 04:10:49 PM
Aruba Suspect Appeals Jail Ruling
UPDATED: 1:55 pm CDT September 5, 2011


ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- A Maryland man, detained in Aruba in connection with the disappearance of an American woman, filed an appeal Monday to a recent ruling keeping him behind bars for another 60 days.

Gary Giordano's lawyer said the appeal hearing will be held Wednesday at 11 a.m.  

A three-judge appellate panel will either affirm the earlier ruling and keep Giordano in custody or else set him free

<snipped>

http://www.4029tv.com/news/29080609/detail.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 05, 2011, 09:09:05 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_ProfilePic-1.jpg)

WHERE IS ROBYN?

ARE THE AUTHORITIES IN ARUBA
STILL LOOKING FOR HER?


 ::justice2NJ::



::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 06, 2011, 10:09:22 AM
Surveillance Photo of Car May Hold Answers in Case of Missing Woman Robyn Gardner in Aruba
Updated: Tuesday, 06 Sep 2011, 7:24 AM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 06 Sep 2011, 7:23 AM EDT


ORANJESTAD, Aruba - In Aruba, a new plea for help in the case of a missing Maryland woman.

Police think the people in this white car may know something about what happened to Robyn Gardner.

A surveillance photo was taken as the car was driving away from where she was last seen.

<snipped>

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/maryland/surveillance-photo-of-car-may-hold-answers-in-case-of-missing-woman-robyn-gardner-in-aruba-090611


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: labubske on September 06, 2011, 10:15:44 AM
Surveillance Photo of Car May Hold Answers in Case of Missing Woman Robyn Gardner in Aruba
Updated: Tuesday, 06 Sep 2011, 7:24 AM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 06 Sep 2011, 7:23 AM EDT


ORANJESTAD, Aruba - In Aruba, a new plea for help in the case of a missing Maryland woman.

Police think the people in this white car may know something about what happened to Robyn Gardner.

A surveillance photo was taken as the car was driving away from where she was last seen.

<snipped>

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/maryland/surveillance-photo-of-car-may-hold-answers-in-case-of-missing-woman-robyn-gardner-in-aruba-090611

I wonder if they think that those in this car involved in any way?  Or merely a witness?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 06, 2011, 03:10:23 PM
With video

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Father-of-Man-Held-in-Aruba-Describes-Sons-Phone-Call-129314248.html

Father of Man Held in Aruba Describes Son's Phone Call
Tuesday, Sep 6, 2011  |  Updated 2:07 PM EDT

The father of the man held in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba said conditions for his son in prison were "miserable."

Frank Giordano told the Today Show his son, held for a month now, described to him the difficult conditions over a weekend phone call.  Giordano said his son's treatment at the hands of Aruban police was "their version of waterboarding."

According to his father, Gary Giordano complained on the call that jailers gave him no mattress for the first few days of his incarceration, and he was forced to sleep on the concrete floor.

The elder Giordano told Today Show:

"He said the temperature there at night time in the cell was over 100 degrees, so he wasn't getting much sleep.  And then, in addition to that, they had a parked police car right outside his cell in the grounds and they blew the horn like every hour, and that kept him awake.  So he was pretty exhausted whenever they interrogated him.  So, you know, it appeared to me as though they were trying to wear him down."

Aruban authorities told the Today Show that Giordano had been given a mattress and was now being held in a cell with three other inmates.

 ::snipping2::


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Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2011, 03:37:09 PM
DON'T MISS THE DANA PRETZER SHOW TONIGHT!

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: sailcat on September 06, 2011, 03:49:39 PM
With video

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Father-of-Man-Held-in-Aruba-Describes-Sons-Phone-Call-129314248.html

Father of Man Held in Aruba Describes Son's Phone Call
Tuesday, Sep 6, 2011  |  Updated 2:07 PM EDT

The father of the man held in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba said conditions for his son in prison were "miserable."

Frank Giordano told the Today Show his son, held for a month now, described to him the difficult conditions over a weekend phone call.  Giordano said his son's treatment at the hands of Aruban police was "their version of waterboarding."

According to his father, Gary Giordano complained on the call that jailers gave him no mattress for the first few days of his incarceration, and he was forced to sleep on the concrete floor.

The elder Giordano told Today Show:

"He said the temperature there at night time in the cell was over 100 degrees, so he wasn't getting much sleep.  And then, in addition to that, they had a parked police car right outside his cell in the grounds and they blew the horn like every hour, and that kept him awake.  So he was pretty exhausted whenever they interrogated him.  So, you know, it appeared to me as though they were trying to wear him down."

Aruban authorities told the Today Show that Giordano had been given a mattress and was now being held in a cell with three other inmates.

 ::snipping2::


Well, bless his heart!


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Post by: cookie on September 06, 2011, 09:09:01 PM
wah wah! cry me a river Gary!  ::crymonkey2:: :puker:


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2011, 09:10:56 PM
DON'T MISS THE DANA PRETZER SHOW TONIGHT!

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TUNE IN NOW!

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 06, 2011, 11:59:00 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/6/judges-to-hear-appeal-of-aruba-detention/

Judges to hear appeal of Aruba detention
No charges filed against Maryland man
By Andrea Noble
The Washington Times
Tuesday, September 6, 2011

An appeals hearing will be held before a panel of three judges Wednesday morning in the case of a Gaithersburg man suspected in the August disappearance of a travel companion on Aruba, according to prosecutors.

 ::snipping2::

An attorney in the United States who has represented Mr. Giordano in previous legal matters also said Tuesday that he is being consulted by Mr. Lopez. American attorney Steven D. Kupferberg said he has not spoken personally with Mr. Giordano since he has been detained but that he has spoken with Mr. Lopez. He declined to discuss matters further.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2011, 10:04:04 AM
Suspect in Missing Woman Case Due in Court in Aruba
Updated: Wednesday, 07 Sep 2011, 8:24 AM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 07 Sep 2011, 8:24 AM EDT


(NewsCore) - An American being held by Aruban authorities in the disappearance of his travel companion, Robyn Gardner, was due in court Wednesday to appeal his continued detention.

Gary Giordano will seek to overturn an Aug. 30 decision by an Aruban judge that allowed police to detain him without charge until Oct. 30, Maryland newspaper The Gazette reported.

If his appeal is successful, Giordano could walk free immediately.

<snipped>

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/gary-giordano-in-aruba-court-dpgonc-20110907-fc_14902122





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2011, 10:21:19 AM
OXYMORON: A figure of speech in which incongruous or contradictory terms appear side by side.

++++

Giordano back in court in Aruba missing Robyn Gardner case
September 7, 2011 - 09:38 am


ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) - A Maryland businessman is going before an appeals court in Aruba, hoping to reverse an order jailing him as a suspect in the presumed death of his travel companion

A spokeswoman for the Aruban prosecutors office says authorities are confident they have enough evidence to continue holding Gary Giordano on the Dutch Caribbean island. But Ann Angela says it's possible the court could order him released immediately.

The three-judge panel is expected to rule at the close of Wednesday's hearing.

Giordano is seeking to overturn an Aug. 31 ruling that ordered him held 60 more days as a suspect in the death of Robyn Gardner.

<snipped>

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/09/giordano-back-in-court-in-aruba-missing-robyn-gardner-case-66198.html



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 07, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
US man loses appeal in Aruba missing tourist case



ORANJESTAD, Aruba — A court in Aruba has rejected a Maryland businessman's appeal of the order detaining him as a suspect in the presumed death of his travel companion.

The decision means Gary Giordano will have to stay in jail at least for the remainder of the 60-day detention period imposed on Aug. 31. The ruling came after a hearing before a three-judge panel on Wednesday.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44423243/ns/world_news-americas/#.Tmeono6wVgQ


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2011, 01:34:59 PM
US man loses appeal in Aruba missing tourist case



ORANJESTAD, Aruba — A court in Aruba has rejected a Maryland businessman's appeal of the order detaining him as a suspect in the presumed death of his travel companion.

The decision means Gary Giordano will have to stay in jail at least for the remainder of the 60-day detention period imposed on Aug. 31. The ruling came after a hearing before a three-judge panel on Wednesday.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44423243/ns/world_news-americas/#.Tmeono6wVgQ


 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2011, 02:59:27 PM

Aruba Suspect Gary Giordano Denied Release From Jail Today
Sept. 7, 2011


Gary Giordano was denied release from an Aruba jail today as ABC News obtained evidence showing Giordano's eager calls to cash in on the life insurance policy of missing woman Robyn Gardner.

"(He) sounded excited, like he was about to win something," one representative from American Express insurance told the FBI.

Court documents also show that Giordano had previously taken out an insurance policy on Gardner for a trip in June. The policy, obtained by ABC News, is dated April 27 and was signed by Gardner on May 12, officially designating Giordano as her beneficiary and listing him as her "domestic partner."

Gardner later canceled on Giordano and went to New York with her roommate, Christina Jones, instead. Jones has previously told ABCNews that Giordano sent Gardner aggressive, harmful texts for her decision to bail on the trip and go to New York.

<snipped>

VIDEO
http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-denied-jail-release/story?id=14463749



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 07, 2011, 03:34:37 PM
Thanks Janet, for bringing the news of Giordano's extended detention. 

I'm confused.  Previous reports of the 1.5 million policy referred to it as Accidental Death and Dismemberment, now this ABC article talks about life Insurance.  Two very different things.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Also, the policy was referred to as travel insurance.  If travel insurance was taken out in May, would that have been for the cruise he had scheduled?  Was he planning to toss Robyn off the cruise ship and got upset when she cancelled?  Did he take her to next easiest place to disappear another person......Aruba.  Travel policies are for the duration of the travel only, and are very limited in scope.

I don't believe that Robyn's signature on a life insurance policy naming him as "beneficiary and domestic partner", is authentic. Giordano is a known forger.  Five'll getcha ten that if a signature is on a policy for Robyn's life, it's a forgery by Giordano.

What girl would go on a cruise or to Aruba with a guy who just bought a big fat policy on her?  It's a cash bounty on your head. 

The whole story smells like a dead fish, however, I'm glad they used it to keep him locked up. ::MonkeyCool::

Meanwhile, who is searching for Robyn?  ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2011, 03:36:45 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Is-Natalee-case-affecting-Gardner-investigation/npguxat-S0e-nn11wQhdGA.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Is-Natalee-case-affecting-Gardner-investigation/npguxat-S0e-nn11wQhdGA.cspx)

Is Natalee case affecting Gardner investigation?

Published: 12:48 pm
Updated: 1:31 pm
   
Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  How much is the six year old Natalee Holloway case affecting how investigators on Aruba are handling the Robyn Garnder mystery?

Natalee is the Mountain Brook teen who vanished on a 2005 graduation trip to Aruba.  She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad bar with three local teens, including Joran van der Sloot.  Van der Sloot was questioned repeatedly but never charged amid claims of lack of diligence by Aruban police and undue influence by his late father, a judge on the island.

By contrast, the main suspect in the disappearance in August of Robyn Gardner has been held by Aruban authorities while they chase down theories in that case...including suspicions he killed her for insurance money.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 07, 2011, 04:20:34 PM
Their is a video clip on her friend who was in Aruba looking for her on "Today" I can't get it here it's at the other place


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2011, 04:45:43 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Is-Natalee-case-affecting-Gardner-investigation/npguxat-S0e-nn11wQhdGA.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Is-Natalee-case-affecting-Gardner-investigation/npguxat-S0e-nn11wQhdGA.cspx)

Is Natalee case affecting Gardner investigation?

Published: 12:48 pm
Updated: 1:31 pm
   
Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  How much is the six year old Natalee Holloway case affecting how investigators on Aruba are handling the Robyn Garnder mystery?

Natalee is the Mountain Brook teen who vanished on a 2005 graduation trip to Aruba.  She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad bar with three local teens, including Joran van der Sloot.  Van der Sloot was questioned repeatedly but never charged amid claims of lack of diligence by Aruban police and undue influence by his late father, a judge on the island.

By contrast, the main suspect in the disappearance in August of Robyn Gardner has been held by Aruban authorities while they chase down theories in that case...including suspicions he killed her for insurance money.

 ::snipping2::

Aruba held Joran van der Sloot for two months (June 9/05 - August 3/05)  prior to releasing him without charges.  Aruba did go through the motions but when all was said and done it was a given that the son of a Dutch elite would not be prosecuted for his participation in the demise and disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Considering Gary Giordano is not the son of an Aruban/Dutch elite ... I do believe there is a chance that Aruban justice may prevail for Robyn Gardner.

++++

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway
]
Page 189:
   It's the proverbial, Biblical conflict between good and evil.  It's very, very hard to fight evil because it constantly changes form and you never know who your enemies are.  And evil is always two steps ahead. From the outset we never had a chance.  But we didn't know it.  I'm taking leave of the island, but not from the work yet to be done.


NATIONAL MUSEUM OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT
Loving Natalee

http://tickets.crimemuseum.org/retail/Books/Non-Fiction/LovingNataleeBook.aspx


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2011, 05:23:16 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_RobynGardner.jpg)


ROBYN GARDNER
MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2011, 06:28:41 PM
(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8401/1_1315419383.jpg)

Guess they won't let him wear his toupee in jail  ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.awe24.com/20110907/8401/Gary_Giordano_sospechoso_di_desaparicion_di_dama_americano_RGardner_ta_keda (http://www.awe24.com/20110907/8401/Gary_Giordano_sospechoso_di_desaparicion_di_dama_americano_RGardner_ta_keda)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2011, 06:30:44 PM
Their is a video clip on her friend who was in Aruba looking for her on "Today" I can't get it here it's at the other place

Here it is.  Thanks for the heads up Blonde  ::MonkeyCool::

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 07, 2011, 06:51:01 PM
(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8401/1_1315419383.jpg)

Guess they won't let him wear his toupee in jail  ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.awe24.com/20110907/8401/Gary_Giordano_sospechoso_di_desaparicion_di_dama_americano_RGardner_ta_keda (http://www.awe24.com/20110907/8401/Gary_Giordano_sospechoso_di_desaparicion_di_dama_americano_RGardner_ta_keda)

Maybe he can get hold of a marker pen and color some hair in... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2011, 09:29:47 PM
Thanks Janet, for bringing the news of Giordano's extended detention. 

I'm confused.  Previous reports of the 1.5 million policy referred to it as Accidental Death and Dismemberment, now this ABC article talks about life Insurance.  Two very different things.   ::MonkeyConfused::

Also, the policy was referred to as travel insurance.  If travel insurance was taken out in May, would that have been for the cruise he had scheduled?  Was he planning to toss Robyn off the cruise ship and got upset when she cancelled?  Did he take her to next easiest place to disappear another person......Aruba.  Travel policies are for the duration of the travel only, and are very limited in scope.

I don't believe that Robyn's signature on a life insurance policy naming him as "beneficiary and domestic partner", is authentic. Giordano is a known forger.  Five'll getcha ten that if a signature is on a policy for Robyn's life, it's a forgery by Giordano.

What girl would go on a cruise or to Aruba with a guy who just bought a big fat policy on her?  It's a cash bounty on your head. 

The whole story smells like a dead fish, however, I'm glad they used it to keep him locked up. ::MonkeyCool::

Meanwhile, who is searching for Robyn?  ::MonkeyNoNo::





Helen

It was Buckeye who first informed the forum of today's exciting upday.

Anyways ... I agree that there are two different policies being discussed.  One was related to a cruise that that Robyn backed out of a while back and ... the other was related to the Aruba trip.

When Gary Giordona's past offences are considered ... the forging of the life insurance policy is definitely food for thought.  However ... in one article that was posted on the forum ... the implication was that someone witnessed Robyn's signature.

Considering Gary Giordona was foot the bill for the Aruban trip ... could it be that Robin just signed on the bottom line on multiple trip related documents.  In other word ... she never read what she was signing.

Janet





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 07, 2011, 10:27:23 PM
Oh, so sorry I missed Buckeye's post....Thanks to Buckeye.

I guess it's possible that Robyn signed a bunch of papers without looking at them, but a witness signing at the same time implies a situation of some importance.  Would love to know who that witness is. 

If the authorities in Aruba truly believe that Giordano killed Robyn, they would have brought in Canines for a search.  Without the forensic evidence a conviction will be difficult.......no body, no case. 

Do they truly want to find Robyn, or is the AHATA directing this case as they did in Natalee's disappearance?

Who is searching for Robyn?  Love and support to Robyn and her loved ones. 



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2011, 10:50:39 PM
Oh, so sorry I missed Buckeye's post....Thanks to Buckeye.

I guess it's possible that Robyn signed a bunch of papers without looking at them, but a witness signing at the same time implies a situation of some importance.  Would love to know who that witness is. 
 
If the authorities in Aruba truly believe that Giordano killed Robyn, they would have brought in Canines for a search.  Without the forensic evidence a conviction will be difficult.......no body, no case. 

Do they truly want to find Robyn, or is the AHATA directing this case as they did in Natalee's disappearance?

Who is searching for Robyn?  Love and support to Robyn and her loved ones. 



Helen

In 2001 I flew to Britain with a friend and her mother.  I sat across from the travel agent and sign each document she presented to me following a quick explanation of the contents.  The agent witnessed each signature.

Could Gary Giordano had purchased the life insurance policy from the agent naming himself as beneficiary and that policy was placed in among other trip related documents?

I am just trying to make sense of this life insurance policy.

Janet

.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 08, 2011, 09:33:45 AM
New video up at the same place.It shows her signature on ins form

"(He) sounded excited, like he was about to win something..."


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 08, 2011, 09:36:14 AM
New video up at the same place.It shows her signature on ins form

"(He) sounded excited, like he was about to win something..."

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/sig.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 08, 2011, 01:35:01 PM
The news from abcnews.com yesterday mentioned that it was Robyn's signature on the policy but that the information in it was filled in Giordano's handwriting.

Could it be that she signed it and not know what was in it? Like he distracted her by talking or something. You know, like those used car salespeople or the QVC presenters. They talk talk talk and don't give you time to think.

Of course, we know now how much we can trust stuff from abcnews, so... just wondering if anyone else remembers this on the news.

p.s.
I had posted this by mistake in another thread. If the mod please remove it on Susan Powell's. My mind is not like it  used to, plus I have a cat in heat circling around my legs, driving me nuts... as I type in here.  Removed it, no problem.   ::bee::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 08, 2011, 01:42:52 PM
 :smt102

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-cops-suspect-giordano-secret-confession-gardner

ARUBA COPS: SUSPECT SECRET CONFESSION?
Published on: September 8, 2011
By JOHN BLOSSSER, NATIONAL ENQUIRER

 ::snipping2::

Police believe that GARY GIORDANO – the prime suspect in the disappear­ance of ROBYN GARDNER on the exotic island of Aruba – has secretly confessed to killing the blonde beauty!
 
An ENQUIRER investigation has discovered that cops have been told by guards at the squalid San Nicolas police station jail that Giordano was overheard moaning, weeping and banging his head and fists in his cell, while crying: “It’s all my fault!”
 
“Police are convinced these late-night mutterings by the murder suspect add up to a confession,” an insider revealed.
 
A source familiar with the in­vestigation told The ENQUIRER: “Personnel at the vermin-infested jailhouse have told cops that Gior­dano pounded his head and fists against the concrete walls and bars of his cell, saying, ‘Jesus, help me! I’m so, soooo sorry!’ His knuckles and forehead were swollen from all the banging.
 
“Other times, he would cry out in his sleep, saying, ‘Robyn! I’m so sorry! Forgive me!’ This went on every night. He sounded like a man wracked with guilt.”

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 08, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/gary-giordano-robyn-gardner-aruba-murder-suspect-upset-concerned

 Murder Suspect Gary Giordano Is 'Upset' And 'Concerned,' Says Family MembersMurder Suspect Gary Giordano Is 'Upset' And 'Concerned,' Says Family Members
Posted on Sep 08, 2011 @ 12:00PM

Gary Giordano is “upset” and “concerned” in wake of a three-judge panel ruling Wednesday that he must remain in jail in Aruba until the end of October, despite not being charged with any wrongdoing in connection with the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, a Maryland woman he was traveling with on the Caribbean island.

In an exclusive interview with RadarOnline.com, Giordano's second wife, Connie Klein said that she hadn't yet heard the news that her former spouse was going to stay in jail for the foreseeable future.

"I didn't know that, this is the first I'm hearing about it," Klein, a real estate agent in Charlotte, North Carolina, told RadarOnline.com. "I have been in contact with him and spoken to him but not today so I have no comment about it," she said, but went on to say that her ex-husband was worried about the accusations against him when she last spoke to him in his Aruban cell.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 08, 2011, 02:04:55 PM
Oh, so sorry I missed Buckeye's post....Thanks to Buckeye.

I guess it's possible that Robyn signed a bunch of papers without looking at them, but a witness signing at the same time implies a situation of some importance.  Would love to know who that witness is. 
 
If the authorities in Aruba truly believe that Giordano killed Robyn, they would have brought in Canines for a search.  Without the forensic evidence a conviction will be difficult.......no body, no case. 

Do they truly want to find Robyn, or is the AHATA directing this case as they did in Natalee's disappearance?

Who is searching for Robyn?  Love and support to Robyn and her loved ones. 



Helen

In 2001 I flew to Britain with a friend and her mother.  I sat across from the travel agent and sign each document she presented to me following a quick explanation of the contents.  The agent witnessed each signature.

Could Gary Giordano had purchased the life insurance policy from the agent naming himself as beneficiary and that policy was placed in among other trip related documents?

I am just trying to make sense of this life insurance policy.

Janet

.

I'm with you on trying to understand the insurance policy.  Too bad the information we're  getting from the media is conflicting.

I can see how travel policy issuance is quick and on the spot, as in your case.  I bet if you went back and read that policy, you would see it only covered your actual travel, as the time you were on the plane, on a cruise ship.  etc.  They are very limited in scope, and are generally used to provide the funds for medical transport back home, or to return your remains.  They generally will not cover you, for instance, if you have cocktails and go jet skiing.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

LIfe insurance policies are not issued on the spot.  The insured has to go through an underwriting process, including medical exams.  In the case of 1.5 million death benefit, an agent would have to provide much documentation about Robyn's earnings, how her loss of life would impact Giordano financially, etc.  For that amount of death benefit, every medical record of Robyn's life would be looked at, every mole, and every medication ever taken, risky behaviors you may have like race car driving, motorcycle riding, etc.  I can tell you that any life insurance policy issued on Robyn would have been expensive and may have had specific exclusions against infectious disease, based on her tattoos.  (Those put a person at an increased risk of hepC and others based on the needle process).  After you make it through underwriting (this can take months of detailed inquiry), you get a rating which determines the cost of the policy.  Then you pay, then you get a policy.

It is not likely that Giordano could have purchased a life insurance policy on Robyn and made it through an underwriting process.

It is much more likely that the policy in question is an AD&D issued as part of travel package. 

I'm still glad he's detained on the basis of his attempt to make a claim.

If I were Robyn's loved one, I would be screaming at the top of my lungs on every media outlet.......to bring in Canine search teams from ANYWHERE! ( I kinda am anyway) ::MonkeyTongue::

IMO, the story from the Aruban police does not add up. Their failure to provide canine search in a timely manner means: 
A. they do not believe that she is deceased.
B. they do not WANT to find her remains.

If Robyn's loved ones read here, this monkey is standing strong with you and your girl. 








Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on September 09, 2011, 02:39:03 AM
ARUBA COPS: SUSPECT SECRET CONFESSION?

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-cops-suspect-giordano-secret-confession-gardner



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 09, 2011, 01:19:33 PM
[/b]New Surveillance Footage Released

Dan Abrams discusses latest evidence piling up against suspect Gary Giordano

I don't know how to get it here from there

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/g.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 09, 2011, 02:45:51 PM
[/b]New Surveillance Footage Released

Dan Abrams discusses latest evidence piling up against suspect Gary Giordano

I don't know how to get it here from there

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/g.jpg)


Thanks Blonde

Aruba Mystery: New Surveillance Footage Released Dan Abrams discusses latest evidence piling up against suspect Gary Giordano
02:12 | 09/09/2011


Video/Surveillance Tape:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-surveillance-footage-released-14480618


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 10, 2011, 09:38:20 AM
This could be week old but it came out this morning so not positive:

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-hearing-Monday-morning/DpzTOOloXk6IIguAlHG7Ww.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-hearing-Monday-morning/DpzTOOloXk6IIguAlHG7Ww.cspx)

Van der Sloot hearing Monday morning

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  The slow process of the Peruvian justice system is grinding one step closer to keeping Joran van der Sloot behind bars.  The Dutchman has a preliminary hearing scheduled in Lima Monday on charges he killed 21 year old student Stephany Flores.
 ::snipping2::
American authorities here in Alabama are waiting their crack at van der Sloot.  A Birmingham grand jury indicted him on extortion and wire fraud charges claiming he promised the Holloway family information about Natalee's fate, took their money, but never provided the information.

Any efforts to extradite van der Sloot to Alabama are stuck in line behind the Peruvian murder charges.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 11, 2011, 09:32:42 PM
http://www.awe24.com/20110911/8432/Un_team_special_a_sigui_duik_den_e_area_unda_e_dama_americano_Robyn_Lynn

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09112011_Awe24_1.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

one team special owing to follow duik in the area where the lady americano robyn lynn gardner will owing to desaparece

4 hora happen come across, 11 of september 2011 17:17

for descarta all posibilidad during the end of week one team special owing to bay haci buskeda in the fondo of lama in the area where the lady will owing to desaparece. they owing to duik in great part of the area in vecindario for so look at what can achieve in the area. the investigacion is follow.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 11, 2011, 10:09:19 PM
They're just checking the ocean now?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 11, 2011, 10:37:06 PM
They're just checking the ocean now?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Another search?

Robyn Gardner search in Aruba shows no hope: 'If she were alive she would have made herself known'
Saturday, August 13, 2011


The hunt for an American tourist who vanished on a vacation in Aruba this month has lead to a warren-like, abandoned phosphate mine on the southern tip of the Caribbean island.

Dozens of firefighters and cops descended on the remote, labyrinthine quarry Friday, which has numerous cave-like entrances, in attempt to find missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner.

Officials emerged with a pink shirt and sandals, although it wasn't clear if the items were pertinent to the investigation. The search ended with nightfall, authorities said.

The mine is located near where the 35-year-old Gardner is said to have gone missing Aug. 2 during a snorkeling expedition with her travel companion, Gary V. Giordano, also of Maryland.

However, four days of intense searches of the coastline and ocean in the area where Giordano said the pair were swimming proved fruitless.

<snipped>

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-08-13/news/29898237_1_aruba-disappearance-of-alabama-teenager-giordano



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 11, 2011, 10:54:11 PM
They're just checking the ocean now?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think it said they were diving in the area, but it looks to me like those guys in the water have on snorkeling equipment.

Probably all just for show before they close the case and turn him loose.  If she's in the ocean, she didn't go in the way, or where he said she did.

jmo

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 12, 2011, 11:03:37 AM
Black-Tulip posted a new video today can someone bring it over


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 12, 2011, 11:08:04 AM
Black-Tulip posted a new video today can someone bring it over
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/robyn-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 12, 2011, 11:39:49 AM
Aruba Suspect Gary Giordano and Missing Maryland Woman Robyn Gardner Shown in Surveillance Video
Sept. 12, 2011

 
Surveillance video from the day before tourist Robyn Gardner vanished in Aruba shows her and the prime suspect in her disappearance walking the same stretch of beach from which she would vanish a day later.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on September 12, 2011, 11:46:41 AM
they seemed like everything was normal in the video from what I could tell..she did not seem intoxicated or distressed to me...very strange..


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: seahorse on September 12, 2011, 11:53:03 AM
they seemed like everything was normal in the video from what I could tell..she did not seem intoxicated or distressed to me...very strange..


Hi Monkey's,

Cookie,

 Looks to me that he did a "dry run" the day before...not smart on his part, being caught on video.
  IMO


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 12, 2011, 01:43:48 PM
I know we discussed this before, but gotta reiterate it.

The insurance application was faxed - AND mailed through the post office - according to the news article below. So, why was there a news report the other day about someone being "witness" to her signing it?

Also: BBM, the information was not entered in her handwriting, only the signatures.

Quote
Since Gardner vanished, Giordano has tried to cash a $1.5 million insurance policy on Gardner. On July 30, the day before the trip, he submitted an insurance policy on Gardner by mail and fax. An insurance agent who spoke with ABC News said that no one she has dealt with in the entire year has both mailed a hard copy of their policy and faxed it in, noting Girodano's urgency in getting the documents in before the trip.

The insurance policy on Gardner is dated July 27, and is initialed and signed by Gardner, although the beneficiary information is filled out in Giordano's handwriting. Giordano listed his mother as his beneficiary on the forms.

Court documents also show that Giordano had previously taken out an insurance policy on Gardner for a trip in June. The policy, obtained by ABC News, is dated April 27 and was signed by Gardner May 12, officially designating Giordano as her beneficiary and listing him as her "domestic partner."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332&page=2 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332&page=2)



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 12, 2011, 03:02:23 PM
Black-Tulip posted a new video today can someone bring it over
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/robyn-1.jpg)

I don't know how to bring it over, but this is the link to it.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/44483842#44483842


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 12, 2011, 03:29:52 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/R.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Robyn.jpg)
 She looks different to me in this last one her hair looks curly
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/robyn-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 12, 2011, 04:35:10 PM
Aruba Suspect Gary Giordano and Missing Maryland Woman Robyn Gardner Shown in Surveillance Video
Sept. 12, 2011

 
Surveillance video from the day before tourist Robyn Gardner vanished in Aruba shows her and the prime suspect in her disappearance walking the same stretch of beach from which she would vanish a day later.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332



Seems to be video of the few hours before the disappearance....not the day before.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 12, 2011, 04:59:17 PM
What did he do with her in that short of time  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 12, 2011, 08:11:42 PM
Buckeye,

Watch this video, they were in the same place at the same time the day before Robyn disappeared...practice run?  The commentator says the restaurant was closed that day.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Aurelia7 on September 12, 2011, 08:35:51 PM
The drinks in those blue cups.  The fact that he went to his car to refill them. 

That could mean:
a)  He was a cheapskate trying to save money on bar drinks
b)  He made his own concoction that may have included GHB

And then there's the fact that they took the cups with them.  No evidence left behind.  I don't think he was a cheapskate because if he was trying to woo her, he'd be flashin' the cash cuz making drinks in your car is so trailer.  What confuses me is why she agreed to drink out of the blue cups when it's such a trashy thing to do.  Perhaps he told her there was some fun recreational drug in them?  Weird.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Aurelia7 on September 12, 2011, 09:07:24 PM
I agree that it doesn't seem likely that Robyn drowned, but after going through several threads here, I'm not seeing any theories as to what could have happened to her.

Any ideas?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on September 12, 2011, 09:18:45 PM
she may have BEEN drowned..and her body went out to sea...


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2011, 08:33:30 AM
Buckeye,

Watch this video, they were in the same place at the same time the day before Robyn disappeared...practice run?  The commentator says the restaurant was closed that day.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332

Goodmorning Monkey's,

This video may be a genius move from his attorney.  His attorney could be trying to taint a future jurors thinking.  I am a
sucker I bought the fact it was the day before :) 

If they had cups, maybe it was the day before...practice run, dry run, whatever you call it, or is the Lawyer trying to make confusion early?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 13, 2011, 09:28:04 AM
Buckeye,

Watch this video, they were in the same place at the same time the day before Robyn disappeared...practice run?  The commentator says the restaurant was closed that day.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332

Goodmorning Monkey's,

This video may be a genius move from his attorney.  His attorney could be trying to taint a future jurors thinking.  I am a
sucker I bought the fact it was the day before :) 

If they had cups, maybe it was the day before...practice run, dry run, whatever you call it, or is the Lawyer trying to make confusion early?

Yeah except in Aruba there are no jurors. 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 13, 2011, 10:32:06 AM
Aruba Suspect Gary Giordano and Missing Maryland Woman Robyn Gardner Shown in Surveillance Video
Sept. 12, 2011

 
Surveillance video from the day before tourist Robyn Gardner vanished in Aruba shows her and the prime suspect in her disappearance walking the same stretch of beach from which she would vanish a day later.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332



Seems to be video of the few hours before the disappearance....not the day before.

 ::rhino::

Robyn Gardner is wearing the same dress.  Is Gary Giordano also wearing the same clothes?

Janet



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 13, 2011, 10:41:35 AM
The same time?  The same dress?  Different evenings?  Coincidence?  Maybe but ... I don't think so.

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 13, 2011, 11:00:03 AM


Video Shows Robyn Gardner Shortly Before Disappearance
Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011  |  Updated 7:13 AM EDT


<snipped>

Nothing seems amiss in the video from outside the Rum Reef restaurant, where Gardner arrived with her travel partner, Maryland businessman Gary Giordano, at 3:07 p.m. the day she disappeared

Both Gardner and Giordano, the suspect in her disappearance, are seen carrying blue plastic cups, which witnesses said contained vodka and orange juice. Twice Gardner is seen going to the bathroom – the second time appearing somewhat groggy. Before 4 p.m., Giordano is seen going to the rental car, blue cup in hand.

The pair left the restaurant at 4:13 p.m., and Giordano returned at 6:16 p.m., wearing just a bathing suit and sneakers and apparently looking for help.

<snipped>

Video:
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/129693613.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 13, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
https://www.facebook.com/GeraldoRivera
Geraldo Rivera
‎*Geraldo Exclusive*
"Jose Baez has been retained by the family of 50 year old Gary Giordano, the principal suspect in the disappearance of 35 year old Maryland native, Robyn Gardner, who went missing in Aruba. Baez and an investigator are in the Caribbean Island right now interviewing witnesses and probing relevant locations. Giordano is being held without bail by Aruban authorities, as they attempt to find evidence sufficient to charge him with Gardner's death."
-Geraldo


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
Buckeye,

Watch this video, they were in the same place at the same time the day before Robyn disappeared...practice run?  The commentator says the restaurant was closed that day.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332

Goodmorning Monkey's,

This video may be a genius move from his attorney.  His attorney could be trying to taint a future jurors thinking.  I am a
sucker I bought the fact it was the day before :) 

If they had cups, maybe it was the day before...practice run, dry run, whatever you call it, or is the Lawyer trying to make confusion early?

Yeah except in Aruba there are no jurors. 


 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2011, 02:40:55 PM
The same time?  The same dress?  Different evenings?  Coincidence?  Maybe but ... I don't think so.

Janet

Good afternoon Monkey's,

I agree with you Janet, no coincidence.

Bozo is up to his tricks, hymmm....tricking ABC into Bull Butter :)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 13, 2011, 02:46:42 PM
https://www.facebook.com/GeraldoRivera (https://www.facebook.com/GeraldoRivera)
Geraldo Rivera
‎*Geraldo Exclusive*
"Jose Baez has been retained by the family of 50 year old Gary Giordano, the principal suspect in the disappearance of 35 year old Maryland native, Robyn Gardner, who went missing in Aruba. Baez and an investigator are in the Caribbean Island right now interviewing witnesses and probing relevant locations. Giordano is being held without bail by Aruban authorities, as they attempt to find evidence sufficient to charge him with Gardner's death."
-Geraldo

Speaks volumes IMO.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Baez is to Giordano as Tacopina was to Van der Sloot

POS to twist the facts, imo

Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if JB vanished while he's there...but we couldn't be that lucky.

What standing if any would JB have in the Aruban courts?

Or are they already planning on a defense strategy in the US courts?

 ::MonkeyConfused::




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 13, 2011, 03:57:13 PM
I wonder if he took Casey for a romantic side-trip (uhhh paralegal).   :smt078

Can you blame his family?  Baez can get a known murderer off, this is cake to him, AND a free Carribean vacation.  Even though they use Dutch law, since it's close to South America and he's hispanic, he probably thinks there is no difference. 

Lawd!  Now were going to see his ugly mug all over the news again!      ::MonkeyWaa::    ::boxingbaez2::

And here is for Geraldo for being the idiot to continue advertising Baez and aiding in our torture on his show!   ::boxinggeraldo2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 13, 2011, 04:09:03 PM
Buckeye,

Watch this video, they were in the same place at the same time the day before Robyn disappeared...practice run?  The commentator says the restaurant was closed that day.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332

Thanks...I still only see the ones dated 8/2.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 13, 2011, 04:15:06 PM
Baez could actually have a thriving business on Aruba.  There are no real laws so everyone gets off anyhow. This may draw sympathy for Giordano.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 13, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6144464941_373e11e621_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 13, 2011, 04:45:44 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6144464941_373e11e621_b.jpg)


(http://bestsmileys.com/lol/4.gif)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: flamom on September 13, 2011, 04:56:23 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 13, 2011, 05:26:17 PM
ditto!  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Baez & his "investigator"..............Lyon is probably busy planting fake evidence and rounding up false witnesses.  Aruba will be a good place for Baez, corrupt.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Babybear on September 13, 2011, 05:36:39 PM
Baez could actually have a thriving business on Aruba.  There are no real laws so everyone gets off anyhow. This may draw sympathy for Giordano.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This is just too funny.  I don't think Baez can practice in Aruba.  I doubt he even knows where Aruba is.  Just got on a plane and landed. Probably thinks it's in Dade County.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: seahorse on September 13, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Baez could actually have a thriving business on Aruba.  There are no real laws so everyone gets off anyhow. This may draw sympathy for Giordano.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This is just too funny.  I don't think Baez can practice in Aruba.  I doubt he even knows where Aruba is.  Just got on a plane and landed. Probably thinks it's in Dade County.

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 13, 2011, 06:51:51 PM
Buckeye,

Watch this video, they were in the same place at the same time the day before Robyn disappeared...practice run?  The commentator says the restaurant was closed that day.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332

Thanks...I still only see the ones dated 8/2.   ::MonkeyConfused::

8/1/2011 (3:09pm) Video of the rental vehicle going by in the background

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aruba-suspect-gary-giordano-missing-maryland-woman-robyn/story?id=14499332

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_01.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_02.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_03.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_04.jpg)

8/1/2011 (3:41pm) Reported to be Robyn and Gary walking toward the beach behind the Rum Reef Restaurant...note the man's shirt appears to be a light color

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_05.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_06.jpg)

Prior released picture of the day Robyn disappeared (8/2/2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQg10MKlLxI

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_07.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_08.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on September 13, 2011, 09:02:34 PM
Hes Back....

Breaking news: Jose Baez has just confirmed that he's been hired by Gary Giordano, the man held in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner.

http://twitter.com/#!/DrDrewHLN (http://twitter.com/#!/DrDrewHLN)



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on September 13, 2011, 09:09:08 PM
Casey Anthony’s Attorney Jose Baez to Rep Gary Giordano in Aruba.

The defense attorney who helped get Casey Anthony acquitted of murder charges has flown to Aruba to take up the defense of Gary Giordano, the man held in the disappearance of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Maryland.

Baez confirmed to ABC News today that he is in Aruba and will be joining the defense of Giordano, who has been in prison there since shortly after Gardner vanished on Aug. 2.

Baez was the lead attorney in the Casey Anthony trial, which ended this summer with a not guilty verdict in the death of her 2-year-0ld daughter Caylee.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/09/casey-anthonys-attorney-jose-baez-to-rep-gary-giordano-in-aruba/


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 13, 2011, 09:11:30 PM
Sep 13, 2011 5:14pm
Casey Anthony’s Attorney Jose Baez to Rep Gary Giordano in Aruba


The defense attorney who helped get Casey Anthony acquitted of murder charges has flown to Aruba to take up the defense of Gary Giordano, the man held in the disappearance of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Maryland.

Baez confirmed to ABC News today that he is in Aruba and will be joining the defense of Giordano, who has been in prison there since shortly after Gardner vanished on Aug. 2.

Baez was the lead attorney in the Casey Anthony trial, which ended this summer with a not guilty verdict in the death of her 2-year-0ld daughter Caylee.

Shortly after the Casey Anthony verdict, Baez told ABC News’ Barbara Walters in an exclusive interview, ”After I heard ‘not guilty,’ I had a moment. I thought, ‘My life is going to start to change.’”

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/09/casey-anthonys-attorney-jose-baez-to-rep-gary-giordano-in-aruba/



Oh Lord It`s Hard To Be Humble

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better loking each day.

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on September 13, 2011, 09:11:36 PM
Gary Giordano’s Family Hires Casey Anthony’s Attorney Jose Baez to Represent Him..

 ::snipping2::

Baez is apparently in Aruba interviewing witnesses.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/09/13/gary-giordanos-family-hires-casey-anthonys-attorney-jose-baez-to-represent-him/


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on September 13, 2011, 09:13:40 PM
 ::snipping2::

Baez will NOT be the lead attorney in the case -- but will consult with Giordano's trial team regarding the forensic evidence in the case.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/13/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-retained-by-gary-giordano-aruba-murder-suspect-robyn-gardner/?adid=interactive_one#.Tm_-1ezCbkI


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on September 13, 2011, 09:15:56 PM
 ::snipping2::

Giordano’s Aruban lawyer, Michael Lopez, said Giordano’s father, Frank, hired Baez, who was the lead defense attorney for Anthony in her trial on charges of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. Anthony was acquitted of killing Caylee in July, but convicted of four charges of lying to police.

In Aruba, Baez can serve in an advisory role and provide other assistance but he cannot argue in court, Lopez said. “If my client wants me to share all information with Baez, I will do so, even though his role will be that of a consultant,” he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/casey-anthony-lawyer-jose-baez-to-represent-us-man-detained-in-aruba-missing-tourist-case/2011/09/13/gIQApyPZQK_story.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 13, 2011, 09:19:49 PM
::snipping2::

Baez will NOT be the lead attorney in the case -- but will consult with Giordano's trial team regarding the forensic evidence in the case.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/13/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-retained-by-gary-giordano-aruba-murder-suspect-robyn-gardner/?adid=interactive_one#.Tm_-1ezCbkI
A man who cant even spell iron (iorn) or analyze (ananlyze) is tapped for the forensics? A hack who needed to have somebody texting him the questions to ask during forensic topics during trial?  This is rich...dare I say. iornic?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 13, 2011, 10:06:51 PM
TM

Thanks   :smt049


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 13, 2011, 10:10:00 PM
::snipping2::

Baez will NOT be the lead attorney in the case -- but will consult with Giordano's trial team regarding the forensic evidence in the case.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/13/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-retained-by-gary-giordano-aruba-murder-suspect-robyn-gardner/?adid=interactive_one#.Tm_-1ezCbkI
A man who cant even spell iron (iorn) or analyze (ananlyze) is tapped for the forensics? A hack who needed to have somebody texting him the questions to ask during forensic topics during trial?  This is rich...dare I say. iornic?


I'm telling you....that island is perfect for him....they misspell all names and don't collect forensics.  If he stays long enough, he will be appointed Minister.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 13, 2011, 10:12:14 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6144464941_373e11e621_b.jpg)

See - I knew he was already in Aruba  ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.tmz.com/

 ::snipping2::

We're told Baez is currently in Aruba -- and has already met with Giordano.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 13, 2011, 10:15:29 PM
TM

Thanks   :smt049

You're welcome   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 13, 2011, 10:19:18 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6144464941_373e11e621_b.jpg)

See - I knew he was already in Aruba  ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.tmz.com/

 ::snipping2::

We're told Baez is currently in Aruba -- and has already met with Giordano.
 ::snipping2::

Baez could only dream of having that body, he even kinda has a neck.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 13, 2011, 10:27:39 PM
Well yeah, the real body is probably 19/20 and much thinner than Baez  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6160/6145490583_d4f12568be_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 13, 2011, 10:30:14 PM
::snipping2::

Baez will NOT be the lead attorney in the case -- but will consult with Giordano's trial team regarding the forensic evidence in the case.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/13/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-retained-by-gary-giordano-aruba-murder-suspect-robyn-gardner/?adid=interactive_one#.Tm_-1ezCbkI
A man who cant even spell iron (iorn) or analyze (ananlyze) is tapped for the forensics? A hack who needed to have somebody texting him the questions to ask during forensic topics during trial?  This is rich...dare I say. iornic?


I'm telling you....that island is perfect for him....they misspell all names and don't collect forensics.  If he stays long enough, he will be appointed Minister.
Perfect. It'll be just like the Wizard of Oz...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..with his thug investigator along no telling what he come up with. it would nice if the locals would get sick of bad press and make life miserable for him but it IS Aruba so not much hope on that.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Love2Read on September 13, 2011, 11:07:59 PM
::snipping2::

Baez will NOT be the lead attorney in the case -- but will consult with Giordano's trial team regarding the forensic evidence in the case.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/13/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-retained-by-gary-giordano-aruba-murder-suspect-robyn-gardner/?adid=interactive_one#.Tm_-1ezCbkI
A man who cant even spell iron (iorn) or analyze (ananlyze) is tapped for the forensics? A hack who needed to have somebody texting him the questions to ask during forensic topics during trial?  This is rich...dare I say. iornic?


I'm telling you....that island is perfect for him....they misspell all names and don't collect forensics.  If he stays long enough, he will be appointed Minister.
Perfect. It'll be just like the Wizard of Oz...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..with his thug investigator along no telling what he come up with. it would nice if the locals would get sick of bad press and make life miserable for him but it IS Aruba so not much hope on that.


I think Aruba is the PERFECT place for Bobo, and I hope he decides to live there permanently. ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on September 13, 2011, 11:56:39 PM
::snipping2::

Baez will NOT be the lead attorney in the case -- but will consult with Giordano's trial team regarding the forensic evidence in the case.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/13/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-retained-by-gary-giordano-aruba-murder-suspect-robyn-gardner/?adid=interactive_one#.Tm_-1ezCbkI
A man who cant even spell iron (iorn) or analyze (ananlyze) is tapped for the forensics? A hack who needed to have somebody texting him the questions to ask during forensic topics during trial?  This is rich...dare I say. iornic?

Seems like a match made in heaven to me!   Just the help that Giordano deserves.
 ::MonkeySlide::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 14, 2011, 12:17:55 AM
::snipping2::

Baez will NOT be the lead attorney in the case -- but will consult with Giordano's trial team regarding the forensic evidence in the case.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/13/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-retained-by-gary-giordano-aruba-murder-suspect-robyn-gardner/?adid=interactive_one#.Tm_-1ezCbkI
A man who cant even spell iron (iorn) or analyze (ananlyze) is tapped for the forensics? A hack who needed to have somebody texting him the questions to ask during forensic topics during trial?  This is rich...dare I say. iornic?

Seems like a match made in heaven to me!   Just the help that Giordano deserves.
 ::MonkeySlide::



 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on September 14, 2011, 02:19:16 AM
Jose Baez
Casey's Lawyer Now Defending
Aruba Suspect Gary Giordano

http://www.tmz.com/



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Red on September 14, 2011, 09:01:46 AM
Casey Anthony Attorney Jose Baez Heads to Aruba to Represent Murder Suspect Gary Giordano in Disappearance of Robyn Gardner

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/09/14/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-heads-to-aruba-to-represent-murder-suspect-gary-giordano/

Isn’t it telling that Casey Anthony’s parents just can’t seem to get enough media attention as they appear on the Dr. Phil Show, even after the long drawn out trial that left them without their murdered grand daughter Caylee, even as they continue to make excuses.  Now Casey Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez leaches onto the Giordano murder case for the media attention.

We have seen this act before  … Jose Baez is a poor man’s attorney’s Joe Tacopina. So how does Baez sell himself to Giordano. Hey Gary, you are going to need a US lawyer to watch your back and for PR in the United States. I am one of the most hated and despised attorneys and have the most hated client in the US … hire me?  Giordano may have sealed his fate as with Baez in his team, Americans will be actually rooting for Aruba in this case … call it the reverse Natalee Holloway affect.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 14, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/mystery-aruba-pictures-robyn-gardner-surface-gary-giordano-14361830


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 14, 2011, 11:23:00 AM
I was discussing this case with a friend who works for AA, and she told me that the traveling insurance is not sold in a few states, Maryland being one of them. That if he bought the insurance mentioned in this case, that he had to have bought it in another state.

So, now I'm confused about this. Doesn't he live in Maryland?



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 14, 2011, 02:55:23 PM
she may have BEEN drowned..and her body went out to sea...

That's what I am thinking Cookie..there may have been a date rape drug in those drinks and she may have gone in the water with him and never come out..while he would have known she would be to drugged to swim to shore.  I think his story has some truth...and that was a coverup for the fact he intended to do this to her for the money from the insurance policy.  I think he was making a dry run of the beach and scoping out the location the day before..and may not have known he would be caught on camera..or knew there were cameras..but most are on a loop..so they get taped over right away.  Surprising this wasn't taped over.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 14, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Casey Anthony Attorney Jose Baez Heads to Aruba to Represent Murder Suspect Gary Giordano in Disappearance of Robyn Gardner

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/09/14/casey-anthony-attorney-jose-baez-heads-to-aruba-to-represent-murder-suspect-gary-giordano/

Isn’t it telling that Casey Anthony’s parents just can’t seem to get enough media attention as they appear on the Dr. Phil Show, even after the long drawn out trial that left them without their murdered grand daughter Caylee, even as they continue to make excuses.  Now Casey Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez leaches onto the Giordano murder case for the media attention.

We have seen this act before  … Jose Baez is a poor man’s attorney’s Joe Tacopina. So how does Baez sell himself to Giordano. Hey Gary, you are going to need a US lawyer to watch your back and for PR in the United States. I am one of the most hated and despised attorneys and have the most hated client in the US … hire me?  Giordano may have sealed his fate as with Baez in his team, Americans will be actually rooting for Aruba in this case … call it the reverse Natalee Holloway affect.

 ::snipping2::

Now you know he is guilty if he hired Baez who is the imfamous lawyer behind the everyone but the jury knew Casey was guilty.  You would have to be a desperate man to hire Baez...or very guilty and it was a last shot.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on September 14, 2011, 04:10:53 PM
she may have BEEN drowned..and her body went out to sea...

That's what I am thinking Cookie..there may have been a date rape drug in those drinks and she may have gone in the water with him and never come out..while he would have known she would be to drugged to swim to shore.  I think his story has some truth...and that was a coverup for the fact he intended to do this to her for the money from the insurance policy.  I think he was making a dry run of the beach and scoping out the location the day before..and may not have known he would be caught on camera..or knew there were cameras..but most are on a loop..so they get taped over right away.  Surprising this wasn't taped over.

The "authorities" in Aruba said if she had drowned in that location, her body would have washed ashore.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 14, 2011, 04:48:31 PM
she may have BEEN drowned..and her body went out to sea...

That's what I am thinking Cookie..there may have been a date rape drug in those drinks and she may have gone in the water with him and never come out..while he would have known she would be to drugged to swim to shore.  I think his story has some truth...and that was a coverup for the fact he intended to do this to her for the money from the insurance policy.  I think he was making a dry run of the beach and scoping out the location the day before..and may not have known he would be caught on camera..or knew there were cameras..but most are on a loop..so they get taped over right away.  Surprising this wasn't taped over.


If she drowned, the body would have floated back onshore. UNLESS he was able to weight her down inside something. Cuz even if he tied rocks on her body, the body gasses would have forced the body to surface.

He had a short window to get rid of a body.

I think he had to of had help. Like Joran van der Sloot.

Look at connections that Gary Giordano had in Aruba and stateside - someone with a boat that could come ashore and take a body out to sea.





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 14, 2011, 04:50:19 PM
I'm still very curious why the ex-husband has not come forward.  He stood to gain from his ex-wifes' demise.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 14, 2011, 10:37:57 PM

Not everybody thinks Baez is an asset.....pretty funny article  ::boxingbaez2::


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/gary-giordano-casey-anthony-lawyer-jose-baez-joke-says-robyn-gardner-boyfriend


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 15, 2011, 01:30:02 AM
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

September 15, 2011 edition Page 3

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09152011_AweMainta_Page3.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: TnMuse on September 15, 2011, 12:31:33 PM
It doesn't look to me like Aruba has enough evidence to charge Giordano.  I think Baez is just moving in to take all the credit for clearing him of the crime.  I really hope somebody will wipe that smug look off his face someday soon.   ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 15, 2011, 06:03:15 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/aruba-police-to-stage-drowning-of-us-tourist-to-test-maryland-mans-account-of-incident/2011/09/15/gIQA85P5UK_story.html

Aruba police to stage drowning of US tourist to test Maryland man’s account of incident
By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, September 15, 2:53 PM

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Aruban authorities will stage a re-enactment of the alleged drowning of a Maryland woman to test her jailed companion’s account of the incident, a prosecution official said Thursday.

Authorities hope the re-enactment will help them determine if it’s possible for Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Maryland, to have drowned while snorkeling in the way her companion, Gary Giordano, has described the incident to investigators, Solicitor General Taco Stein said.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on September 15, 2011, 10:56:16 PM
she may have BEEN drowned..and her body went out to sea...

That's what I am thinking Cookie..there may have been a date rape drug in those drinks and she may have gone in the water with him and never come out..while he would have known she would be to drugged to swim to shore.  I think his story has some truth...and that was a coverup for the fact he intended to do this to her for the money from the insurance policy.  I think he was making a dry run of the beach and scoping out the location the day before..and may not have known he would be caught on camera..or knew there were cameras..but most are on a loop..so they get taped over right away.  Surprising this wasn't taped over.
I can totally see him using rufies on her or anything to incapacitate her, but I can't imagine her body NOT washing up with the tides, I hate to say this but where I live used to be called the drowning capital of the US, and IMO it still is when you swim on an unguarded beach and only about 1/2 mile total of the entire beach has lifeguards so there are plenty that drowned (IIRC at least 5 during this past Spring Break), and when they are not pulled out right away- the bodies always wash up:( Last yr a 17 yr old on a boogie board drowned and his body washed up the next day, but a few yrs ago a man drowned and he washed up a week later (but he did wash up) and it was a few miles away too......JMO that if she drowned, they would have found her  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Local News: 18 gulf deaths send up red flag

IN 2003 MARCH 27 Cody Kennedy, 19, of Milton (Pensacola Beach): As the teenager waded in waist-deep water, a rip current pulled him out to sea. Rough seas and winds hampered the search; his body turned up on a beach almost a week later.
Read more: http://www.newsherald.com/news/beach-21239-county-pulled.html#ixzz1Y2aaetUa






Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 15, 2011, 11:32:41 PM
I wonder if Jose has scoped out the perfect spot for his bikini stand yet? 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 15, 2011, 11:39:25 PM
she may have BEEN drowned..and her body went out to sea...

That's what I am thinking Cookie..there may have been a date rape drug in those drinks and she may have gone in the water with him and never come out..while he would have known she would be to drugged to swim to shore.  I think his story has some truth...and that was a coverup for the fact he intended to do this to her for the money from the insurance policy.  I think he was making a dry run of the beach and scoping out the location the day before..and may not have known he would be caught on camera..or knew there were cameras..but most are on a loop..so they get taped over right away.  Surprising this wasn't taped over.
I can totally see him using rufies on her or anything to incapacitate her, but I can't imagine her body NOT washing up with the tides, I hate to say this but where I live used to be called the drowning capital of the US, and IMO it still is when you swim on an unguarded beach and only about 1/2 mile total of the entire beach has lifeguards so there are plenty that drowned (IIRC at least 5 during this past Spring Break), and when they are not pulled out right away- the bodies always wash up:( Last yr a 17 yr old on a boogie board drowned and his body washed up the next day, but a few yrs ago a man drowned and he washed up a week later (but he did wash up) and it was a few miles away too......JMO that if she drowned, they would have found her  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Local News: 18 gulf deaths send up red flag

IN 2003 MARCH 27 Cody Kennedy, 19, of Milton (Pensacola Beach): As the teenager waded in waist-deep water, a rip current pulled him out to sea. Rough seas and winds hampered the search; his body turned up on a beach almost a week later.
Read more: http://www.newsherald.com/news/beach-21239-county-pulled.html#ixzz1Y2aaetUa


I've read and posted about many drownings in Aruba, I agree islandmonkey; if she had drowned they would have found her body.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 16, 2011, 07:50:29 AM
I wonder if Jose has scoped out the perfect spot for his bikini stand yet? 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I don't know.  But we know Jose has already  started scheming and dreaming and wringing his hands in anticipation of all the media exposure and money he'll get being attached to Gary Giordano's case.  He's been riding high for a while from Casey's case and he needs a another fix, imo.  Notice I said "attached", as in latched on. I don't think Jose is all that smart and I think Cheney and a couple others from the defense team were the masterminds behind getting Casey freed, and not Jose.  All Jose did was deliver the rhetoric.  He was the mouth piece, not the brains.  But it's enough that it's fooled some people.  JMHO


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 16, 2011, 10:49:56 AM
ARUBA COPS THEORY: KILLER HAD ACCOMPLICE
Published on: September 16, 2011
by John Blosser, NATIONAL ENQUIRER


In a terrifying new development, police in Aruba believe that GARY GIORDANO – their prime suspect in the disappearance of blonde beauty ROBYN GARDNER – may have had an American accomplice.

The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that authorities are hunting for a heavily tattooed man they believe assisted Giordano in murder­ing the dental assistant from Maryland.

The mystery man was seen with Robyn and Giordano at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill just before Giordano claims the pair went swimming and Robyn, caught by a current, never returned, said a source close to the investigation.

<snipped>

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-cops-theory-suspect-gary-giordano-accomplice-helped-kill-robyn-gardner



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 16, 2011, 10:53:13 AM
Aruban Police To Reenact Alleged Gardner Drowning
Authorities To Test Suspect's Account Of Incident
POSTED: 8:29 am EDT September 16, 2011
UPDATED: 8:30 am EDT September 16, 2011


ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- The Aruban prosecutor's office said it will reenact the alleged drowning of a U.S. woman to test her companion's account of the incident.

Solicitor General Taco Stein told The Associated Press the reenactment will take place soon, but he wouldn't say when.

<snipped>

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/29203787/detail.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 16, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
8/1/2011 (3:41pm) Reported to be Robyn and Gary walking toward the beach behind the Rum Reef Restaurant...note the man's shirt appears to be a light color

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_05.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_06.jpg)

Looks that way


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 16, 2011, 01:30:46 PM
8/1/2011 (3:41pm) Reported to be Robyn and Gary walking toward the beach behind the Rum Reef Restaurant...note the man's shirt appears to be a light color

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_05.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_06.jpg)
ARUBA COPS THEORY: KILLER HAD ACCOMPLICE
Published on: September 16, 2011
by John Blosser, NATIONAL ENQUIRER
Looks that way


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 16, 2011, 02:41:41 PM
Sounds very plausible.  Glad the FBI is there helping. I can see Baez sitting around twittling his thumbs with no clue how to defend and not being able to practice law in Aruba.  What a waste.  Probably right, looking for a place for his new bikini stand.  Now that Casey is being offered a job to model bikinis for TMR, she can model  them for him.  That will be her new job. http://www.tmrzoo.com/2011/28921 (http://www.tmrzoo.com/2011/28921)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 16, 2011, 09:32:01 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-cops-theory-suspect-gary-giordano-accomplice-helped-kill-robyn-gardner

ARUBA COPS THEORY: KILLER HAD ACCOMPLICE

Published on: September 16, 2011
by John Blosser, NATIONAL ENQUIRER

In a terrifying new development, police in Aruba believe that GARY GIORDANO – their prime suspect in the disappearance of blonde beauty ROBYN GARDNER – may have had an American accomplice.

 ::snipping2::

The ENQUIRER, in an exclusive interview with one of the witnesses, has learned that au­thorities are looking for a white American with a stocky but muscular build. He’s about 40, with dark, curly hair and a large tattoo of a heart over a cross on his left arm and another unspecified tattoo on his left hand.

Spotted with Robyn shortly before her disappearance, the tattooed American was wear­ing new Nike tennis shoes, red and white socks, a light-colored muscle shirt and pricey sunglasses.

The witness told police that Giordano, 50, and Robyn, 35, arrived at the Rum Reef restaurant mid-afternoon and ate. The mystery man arrived sometime later.

After a while, Gior­dano left for nearby Nanki beach, while the other American and Robyn talked for another 10 min­utes.

Investigators believe during that two-hour stretch, Giordano and his accomplice drove Robyn to an area of dingy shacks near an oil refinery – where she was killed. They think the two men then buried the body in a shallow grave.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 16, 2011, 09:40:26 PM
8/1/2011 (3:41pm) Reported to be Robyn and Gary walking toward the beach behind the Rum Reef Restaurant...note the man's shirt appears to be a light color

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_05.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_06.jpg)
ARUBA COPS THEORY: KILLER HAD ACCOMPLICE
Published on: September 16, 2011
by John Blosser, NATIONAL ENQUIRER
Looks that way

This video (that I took the screen shots from) was supposedly from the day before Robyn disappeared, and was described as being Robyn and Gary walking toward the beach.  That's why I pointed out that the man appears to be wearing a light colored shirt; since we know from pictures that he had on a black shirt at Rum Reef the day of the disappearance.  If the Enquirer story is correct, the other American was with them the day of her disappearance, and no mention of his being out there with them the day before.

I wish the videos were clearer. 

I still wonder about the white car they released the picture of.  Wonder if anyone ever came forward, I haven't seen anything reported about it if they have.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 17, 2011, 12:07:48 AM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09162011_CarlaBaronFB.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 17, 2011, 01:41:39 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-cops-theory-suspect-gary-giordano-accomplice-helped-kill-robyn-gardner

ARUBA COPS THEORY: KILLER HAD ACCOMPLICE

Published on: September 16, 2011
by John Blosser, NATIONAL ENQUIRER

In a terrifying new development, police in Aruba believe that GARY GIORDANO – their prime suspect in the disappearance of blonde beauty ROBYN GARDNER – may have had an American accomplice.

 ::snipping2::

The ENQUIRER, in an exclusive interview with one of the witnesses, has learned that au­thorities are looking for a white American with a stocky but muscular build. He’s about 40, with dark, curly hair and a large tattoo of a heart over a cross on his left arm and another unspecified tattoo on his left hand.

Spotted with Robyn shortly before her disappearance, the tattooed American was wear­ing new Nike tennis shoes, red and white socks, a light-colored muscle shirt and pricey sunglasses.

The witness told police that Giordano, 50, and Robyn, 35, arrived at the Rum Reef restaurant mid-afternoon and ate. The mystery man arrived sometime later.

After a while, Gior­dano left for nearby Nanki beach, while the other American and Robyn talked for another 10 min­utes.

Investigators believe during that two-hour stretch, Giordano and his accomplice drove Robyn to an area of dingy shacks near an oil refinery – where she was killed. They think the two men then buried the body in a shallow grave.

 ::snipping2::

Hey Monkeys,

These Aruban Investigators drive me crazy! ::pullinghairout::

I spite of the fact that their new theory is that Giordano and an accomplice took Robyn to an area nearby and killed her and buried her in a shallow grave, they still have not brought in any

 ::MonkeyDogWalk3:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk3:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk::

 :gaah: I did not want to say "dogs" again. 

Is there an icon for "monkey screaming till blue in the face"?

They work so hard at making sure there is absolutely no evidence.

Aruba sucks.  Never go there. 



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 17, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
I know exactly how you feel Helen Back!   ::pullinghairout::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 17, 2011, 07:03:23 PM
I know exactly how you feel Helen Back!   ::pullinghairout::



Hey Texasmom!   ::HelloKitty::

What's it been?  Six weeks since Robyn disappeared?  They are just now thinking there may have been someone else involved. 

Veeeeery tight timeline for killing and disposing of someone.  Especially for a tourist.  They cannot possible be that inept. 

What is really going on in Aruba? ::MonkeyNoNo::

We are still watching, Aruba.  And this BS still won't fly. 





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 17, 2011, 07:11:11 PM
If they really think there might be an accomplice maybe they ought to go over fight manifests for Md male passengers during the immediate time frame before and after the couple got there and look for a connection to Giordano. 
(the way to do it according to me!)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 17, 2011, 07:44:20 PM
I know exactly how you feel Helen Back!   ::pullinghairout::



Hey Texasmom!   ::HelloKitty::

What's it been?  Six weeks since Robyn disappeared?  They are just now thinking there may have been someone else involved. 

Veeeeery tight timeline for killing and disposing of someone.  Especially for a tourist.  They cannot possible be that inept. 

What is really going on in Aruba? ::MonkeyNoNo::

We are still watching, Aruba.  And this BS still won't fly. 


They know a lot more than they are revealing imo. 

Maybe the accomplice is another "untouchable"?  Maybe he's part of something they don't want the world knowing about?

There are many American's living there and on neighboring islands.

I won't believe they killed her until her remains are identified.  The searches imo have shown a lack of determination to find her...WHY NO TRACKING OR CADAVER DOGS?  Do they really even believe she's dead?  I know some don't agree, but I still think she could have been sold into human trafficking.  If the authorities end up accepting the drowning theory, Gary just collects that much more.  It's sickening!



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 17, 2011, 08:08:25 PM
I know exactly how you feel Helen Back!   ::pullinghairout::



Hey Texasmom!   ::HelloKitty::

What's it been?  Six weeks since Robyn disappeared?  They are just now thinking there may have been someone else involved. 

Veeeeery tight timeline for killing and disposing of someone.  Especially for a tourist.  They cannot possible be that inept. 

What is really going on in Aruba? ::MonkeyNoNo::

We are still watching, Aruba.  And this BS still won't fly. 


They know a lot more than they are revealing imo. 

Maybe the accomplice is another "untouchable"?  Maybe he's part of something they don't want the world knowing about?

There are many American's living there and on neighboring islands.

I won't believe they killed her until her remains are identified.  The searches imo have shown a lack of determination to find her...WHY NO TRACKING OR CADAVER DOGS?  Do they really even believe she's dead?  I know some don't agree, but I still think she could have been sold into human trafficking.  If the authorities end up accepting the drowning theory, Gary just collects that much more.  It's sickening!



I didn't follow Natalee's case closely. When you guys were following her case is that something that was discovered to be happening from Aruba? (the human trafficking?)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 17, 2011, 09:25:05 PM
I know exactly how you feel Helen Back!   ::pullinghairout::



Hey Texasmom!   ::HelloKitty::

What's it been?  Six weeks since Robyn disappeared?  They are just now thinking there may have been someone else involved. 

Veeeeery tight timeline for killing and disposing of someone.  Especially for a tourist.  They cannot possible be that inept. 

What is really going on in Aruba? ::MonkeyNoNo::

We are still watching, Aruba.  And this BS still won't fly. 


They know a lot more than they are revealing imo. 

Maybe the accomplice is another "untouchable"?  Maybe he's part of something they don't want the world knowing about?

There are many American's living there and on neighboring islands.

I won't believe they killed her until her remains are identified.  The searches imo have shown a lack of determination to find her...WHY NO TRACKING OR CADAVER DOGS?  Do they really even believe she's dead?  I know some don't agree, but I still think she could have been sold into human trafficking.  If the authorities end up accepting the drowning theory, Gary just collects that much more.  It's sickening!



I didn't follow Natalee's case closely. When you guys were following her case is that something that was discovered to be happening from Aruba? (the human trafficking?)

Good evening monkeys,

TM - I agree with you, I won't believe Robyn is dead until her remains are found.  From the looks of it, the police don't believe it either.  I can't see ruling out anything, including trafficking, until some evidence is presented.

Mizjay - In many ways this is a repeat of Natalee's case.....The police leaking snippets to the press that make no sense.  The insinuate much and offer little of substance.  Even the sworn statements from the interrogations of Joran and the Kalpoes are ridiculous.  Ten days of interrogation summed up in a paragraph!  No transcripts. 

Aruba is a known transit point for human trafficking, and our own State Department recognizes this.  Most of the trafficking you hear about is women from South America who are brought into Aruba and forced into prostitution. 

When you start to add up all the Americans missing from Aruba: Natalee, Robyn, Bud Larson, Max Devries, and from Curacao, Amy Bradley and the woman from Orange County California who went missing last year.  (by the way, the one from Orange County was a tiny blonde like Robyn and Natalee)  No bodies have been found.  All dead?  I don't think so.  I'm sure there are more, and apologies for the names I have forgotten at the moment. 

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 17, 2011, 09:54:08 PM
ARUBA COPS THEORY: KILLER HAD ACCOMPLICE
Published on: September 16, 2011
by John Blosser, NATIONAL ENQUIRER


In a terrifying new development, police in Aruba believe that GARY GIORDANO – their prime suspect in the disappearance of blonde beauty ROBYN GARDNER – may have had an American accomplice.

The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively that authorities are hunting for a heavily tattooed man they believe assisted Giordano in murder­ing the dental assistant from Maryland.

The mystery man was seen with Robyn and Giordano at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill just before Giordano claims the pair went swimming and Robyn, caught by a current, never returned, said a source close to the investigation.

<snipped>

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-cops-theory-suspect-gary-giordano-accomplice-helped-kill-robyn-gardner



Let me guess, By-assss told Giordano to make up an imaginary tattooed guy as the kidnapper/murderer of Robyn. I bet next weeks NE article posts a picture of his newest tattoo that says "Bella Vita"......... :smt119


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 17, 2011, 10:22:18 PM
Helen Black~  thanks for the reply. I knew that Aruba was lax and apathetic and corrupt but wasn't aware of the trafficking connections. I would never go there because of Natalee, what a travesty. Guess it didn't take a criminal genius to decide which destination to use for exploiting Robyn, whether it was by murder for insurance or to sell her..or like somebody said earlier..both.
   


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 17, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-16/americas/world_americas_aruba-missing-woman_1_aruban-natalee-holloway-prosecutors-office?_s=PM:AMERICAS

Aruban authorities to re-enact American woman's disappearance
September 16, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff

Aruban law enforcement are planning to re-enact the disappearance of an American woman last seen six weeks ago in the Caribbean nation, an official with the national prosecutors office said Friday.

The re-enactment will occur early next week, likely Monday or Tuesday, according to Ann Angela of the Aruban prosecutors office.

Prosecutors have been waiting to stage such an event when weather conditions are similar to those on August 2, when Maryland resident Robyn Gardner went missing.

 ::snipping2::

Aruban law enforcement are planning to re-enact the disappearance of an American woman last seen six weeks ago in the Caribbean nation, an official with the national prosecutors office said Friday.

The re-enactment will occur early next week, likely Monday or Tuesday, according to Ann Angela of the Aruban prosecutors office.

Prosecutors have been waiting to stage such an event when weather conditions are similar to those on August 2, when Maryland resident Robyn Gardner went missing.

 ::snipping2::

Search efforts for the missing woman are ongoing.

 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 17, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-16/americas/world_americas_aruba-missing-woman_1_aruban-natalee-holloway-prosecutors-office?_s=PM:AMERICAS

Aruban authorities to re-enact American woman's disappearance
September 16, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff

Aruban law enforcement are planning to re-enact the disappearance of an American woman last seen six weeks ago in the Caribbean nation, an official with the national prosecutors office said Friday.

The re-enactment will occur early next week, likely Monday or Tuesday, according to Ann Angela of the Aruban prosecutors office.

Prosecutors have been waiting to stage such an event when weather conditions are similar to those on August 2, when Maryland resident Robyn Gardner went missing.

 ::snipping2::

Aruban law enforcement are planning to re-enact the disappearance of an American woman last seen six weeks ago in the Caribbean nation, an official with the national prosecutors office said Friday.

The re-enactment will occur early next week, likely Monday or Tuesday, according to Ann Angela of the Aruban prosecutors office.

Prosecutors have been waiting to stage such an event when weather conditions are similar to those on August 2, when Maryland resident Robyn Gardner went missing.

 ::snipping2::

Search efforts for the missing woman are ongoing.

 ::snipping2::




 :2redman:

The duplicated paragraphs should have been the following:

"Re-enactments are common in the Dutch legal system, like the one done while authorities probed the disappearance six years ago of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, said Angela. Aruba is an independent entity within the Netherlands government."


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 17, 2011, 11:57:00 PM
http://www.diario.aw/2011/09/fbi-a-saca-poster-di-%E2%80%98missing-person%E2%80%99-pa-desaparicion-di-robyn-gardner/

Papiamentu translation:

fbi owing to saca poster of ‘missing person’, for desaparicion of robyn gardner

publication: thursday, 15 september 2011.

categoria: general

oranjestad(aan): recientemente fbi owing to saca one poster of ‘persona perdi’, relaciona cu desaparicion of robyn gardner. on the poster here do you looking at the descripcion fisico of the muher mericano cu owing to desaparece at aruba on 2 of august, incluyendo the mature cu the have tattoo on his braza y schouder robez. fbi in his poster is ask cualkier person cu have informacion tocante desaparicion of the gardner, for take contacto cu the office of fbi more close of they, or take contacto cu embassy mericano or consulado.

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Robyn-Lynn-Gardner.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 18, 2011, 12:59:50 AM
"Missing Person" for Robyn Gardner from the FBI website

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/robyn-lynn-gardner


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 18, 2011, 01:48:32 AM
"Missing Person" for Robyn Gardner from the FBI website

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/robyn-lynn-gardner


::snipping2::

Robyn Lynn (Colson) Gardner

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/robyn-lynn-gardner/view

Most Wanted • Kidnappings & Missing Persons • ROBYN LYNN GARDNER

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08182011_FBI_RobynLynnGardner-1.jpg)

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 18, 2011, 03:53:55 PM
Robyn Gardner: The Search Continues

9/18/2011

Investigation into the disappearance of American tourist intensifies.

Video here:

http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/video.html?freewheel=90108&sitesection=gatehouse_hom&VID=23529766

(Giordano has refused to cooperate with the reenactment)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 18, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
http://arubaherald.com/local/1137-police-to-reconstruct-robyn-gardners-disappearance.html

Police to reconstruct Robyn Gardner's disappearance         

Saturday, 17 September 2011 17:49
 
 
Police are to reconstruct the suspected drowning of the American woman, Robyn Gardner. The tragedy took place on August 2. The reconstruction is to corroborate the story told to police by the suspect, Gary Giordano, and the time line. Day and time of the reconstruction are not known yet and Taco Stijn from the public prosecutor's office could not say if the time line would be announced beforehand either.

 ::snipping2::

It can be concluded that Gardner is no longer alive. Gardner's body has not been found; various search actions were conducted in the area, at sea as well as on land.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 18, 2011, 07:50:31 PM
Snorkeling at Rocky Point, Aruba

This video shows you the snorkeling conditions at the "rocky point" area of Aruba, behind the Rum Reef Bar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOwONHTbfnU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOwONHTbfnU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: islandmonkey on September 18, 2011, 10:50:52 PM
Snorkeling at Rocky Point, Aruba

This video shows you the snorkeling conditions at the "rocky point" area of Aruba, behind the Rum Reef Bar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOwONHTbfnU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOwONHTbfnU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aOwONHTbfnU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Umm~no! Sorry but I can't imagine snorkeling in that area with the rocks so close in a shallow water enviroment when it was "rough", the surf would slam you into the bottom/rocks in a heartbeat, even in calm water there is really nothing to see, no big reef etc. Granted I snorkel for shells close to shore but if I want to see fish, dolphins up close I have to swim out about 1000 ft to the reef, but that is not an area I'd consider snorkeling in even on a good day.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 18, 2011, 11:00:24 PM
http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/state/police-to-re-enact-gardner's-final-hours

Police to re-enact Gardner's final hours
Posted: 09/18/2011

ARUBA - An isolated beach is the last place Robyn Gardner was seen alive, and tomorrow Aruban authorities are set to return to the crime scene.

Authorities are staging a re-enactment, more than 6 weeks after Gardner disappeared.

"The whole key of re-enactments is to try to go back and first of all understand and be clear about the movements of people prior to a criminal act occurring," said former FBI agent, Brad Garrett.

According to Good Morning America, at least two eye witnesses will be part of the re-enactment, which investigators are using to retrace the exact movements of Gardner and Gary Giordano.

He's the one person some believe, knows exactly what happened on August 2, but Giordano won't be at the re-enactment.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/state/police-to-re-enact-gardner's-final-hours#ixzz1YMaE5nWK


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 18, 2011, 11:17:52 PM
Good evening monkeys.

WOW.....that video pretty much says it all.  I don't think anyone would go snorkeling there.

It will be interesting to see if, during the "re-enactment", the Aruban Police actually try to re-enact snorkeling there.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 02:06:45 AM
I remembered seeing these pictures months ago, and finally remembered where I saw them.  Interesting imo...

http://tinyurl.com/caves-sannicolas-1

Quote
One thing is for sure, it's worth every minute of it. Next trip we'll look for more passages. We were under homes in the Colony, We saw garbage bags that people apparently dumped through holes in their yards. An out of whack infrastructure down there.!! Legend has it (and it's true because we reached the doors of it) that there are chambers leading to God knows where including Grot Lourdes, called: e 5 brasanan. At the entrance there are church like, white apertures. We stopped there on our first trip. We'll try to find them again and explore at least one arm. This last time we didn't find them.!!
November 9, 2010 at 7:06am

http://tinyurl.com/caves-sannicolas-2

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/SanNicolasCaves01.jpg)

Quote
We had a blast again. Didin't reach Baby Beach for three reasons. 1.Twine done. 2.Too many passages and 3.We wanted to go back to dip in the pool of eternal youth. Fun down there though. In two weeks we takin' another route to reach to the five arms.!! Approximately under the church. Great times right here under San Nicolas.!!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 19, 2011, 10:28:00 AM
Robyn Gardner: Aruban Authorities to Re-Enact Missing Maryland Woman's Movements

New video

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/robgary.jpg)


http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-aruban-authorities-enact-missing-maryland-womans/story?id=14551884


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 19, 2011, 10:29:41 AM
Video
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/mystery-aruba-reenacting-robyn-gardner-final-day-14553357


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 19, 2011, 10:31:25 AM
Why would she have on that same dress for two days?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 19, 2011, 01:22:55 PM
Robyn Gardner: Aruban Authorities to Re-Enact Missing Maryland Woman's Movements
Sept. 19, 2011


Aruban authorities will today reconstruct the movements of missing tourist Robyn Gardner, the U.S. woman who disappeared while on a trip there with a man she met on an online swingers' website.

The man, Gary Giordano, 50, is being held by police in Aruba while they investigate whether he was involved in her disappearance.

Authorities will use eyewitness testimony, surveillance video and new photos of Gardner to re-enact what might have happened. The photos of Gardner show her partying with Giordano in Aruba two nights before she disappeared. In one of the photos, she's with Giordano, and in the other, she's standing by herself.

In the photos, obtained exclusively by ABC News, Gardner is wearing the same ankle-length dress she wore the day she vanished from an isolated jetty.

Gardner, 35, has been missing since Aug. 2. Giordano has told authorities that the two went snorkeling and that the Maryland woman was swept out to sea by a strong current. The two were in the midst of a weeklong trip to the Caribbean.

Giordano of Gaithersburg, Md., has denied any wrongdoing in connection with Gardner's disappearance.

The re-enactment will happen between 4 and 6 p.m. – around the time of day that Gardner apparently vanished.

The whole key of re-enactments is to try to go back and first of all understand and be clear about the movements of people prior to a criminal act occurring," retired FBI profiler and ABC News analyst Brad Garrett said. "Now, unfortunately, in this case you don't have a crime scene to eventually end your re-enactment."

Investigators have so far found no direct evidence linking Giordano to a specific crime. "Good Morning America" has learned that at least two eyewitnesses are expected to participate, but Giordano will not.

Giordano has refused to cooperate, according to multiple sources on the island.

Garrett said the re-enactment might also give authorities "a better view of inconsistencies" in Giordano's account.

Giordano and Gardner arrived at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill at Baby Beach around 3 p.m Aug. 2. They stayed for an hour, then left for the beach.

Shortly after 6 p.m. that same day, Giordano reappeared on security cameras. He was shirtless but was still wearing his toupee.

Witnesses have previously described him as eerily calm in the initial hours after Gardner vanished and said that his clothes weren't dripping with water like he'd been frantically searching for someone. They also told investigators that they saw blood on the beach and said Giordano had a cut on his throat. By the time Giordano reached the restaurant, it was closed.

Giordano told investigators he was trying to get help, rouse someone from the restaurant. The surveillance video shows him crisscrossing the restaurant from the bar to the patio and going around back. He appears calm.

Investigators said that it appeared that Giordano wanted to be visible on every camera at the restaurant as if to establish an alibi.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-aruban-authorities-enact-missing-maryland-womans/story?id=14551884



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 19, 2011, 01:24:18 PM
Robyn Gardner: Aruban Authorities to Re-Enact Missing Maryland Woman's Movements
Sept. 19, 2011


<snipped>

Since Gardner vanished, Giordano has inquired about a $1.5 million insurance policy on her. On July 30, the day before the trip, he submitted an insurance policy on Gardner by mail and fax. An insurance agent told the FBI said that no one she has dealt with in the entire year has both mailed a hard copy of their policy and faxed it in, noting Giordano's urgency in getting the documents in before the trip.

The insurance policy on Gardner is dated July 27, and is initialed and signed by Gardner, although the beneficiary information is filled out in Giordano's handwriting. Giordano listed his mother as his beneficiary on the forms.


Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-aruban-authorities-enact-missing-maryland-womans/story?id=14551884


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 19, 2011, 01:36:20 PM
new Video

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44576320#44576320


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 19, 2011, 01:42:07 PM
new Video

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44576320#44576320

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/ju.jpg)
 I need a lesson on how to bring over a news video please


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 19, 2011, 02:08:19 PM
Robyn Gardner: Aruban Authorities to Re-Enact Missing Maryland Woman's Movements
Sept. 19, 2011


Aruban authorities will today reconstruct the movements of missing tourist Robyn Gardner, the U.S. woman who disappeared while on a trip there with a man she met on an online swingers' website.

The man, Gary Giordano, 50, is being held by police in Aruba while they investigate whether he was involved in her disappearance.

Authorities will use eyewitness testimony, surveillance video and new photos of Gardner to re-enact what might have happened. The photos of Gardner show her partying with Giordano in Aruba two nights before she disappeared. In one of the photos, she's with Giordano, and in the other, she's standing by herself.

In the photos, obtained exclusively by ABC News, Gardner is wearing the same ankle-length dress she wore the day she vanished from an isolated jetty.

Gardner, 35, has been missing since Aug. 2. Giordano has told authorities that the two went snorkeling and that the Maryland woman was swept out to sea by a strong current. The two were in the midst of a weeklong trip to the Caribbean.

Giordano of Gaithersburg, Md., has denied any wrongdoing in connection with Gardner's disappearance.

The re-enactment will happen between 4 and 6 p.m. – around the time of day that Gardner apparently vanished.

The whole key of re-enactments is to try to go back and first of all understand and be clear about the movements of people prior to a criminal act occurring," retired FBI profiler and ABC News analyst Brad Garrett said. "Now, unfortunately, in this case you don't have a crime scene to eventually end your re-enactment."

Investigators have so far found no direct evidence linking Giordano to a specific crime. "Good Morning America" has learned that at least two eyewitnesses are expected to participate, but Giordano will not.

Giordano has refused to cooperate, according to multiple sources on the island.

Garrett said the re-enactment might also give authorities "a better view of inconsistencies" in Giordano's account.

Giordano and Gardner arrived at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill at Baby Beach around 3 p.m Aug. 2. They stayed for an hour, then left for the beach.

Shortly after 6 p.m. that same day, Giordano reappeared on security cameras. He was shirtless but was still wearing his toupee.

Witnesses have previously described him as eerily calm in the initial hours after Gardner vanished and said that his clothes weren't dripping with water like he'd been frantically searching for someone. They also told investigators that they saw blood on the beach and said Giordano had a cut on his throat. By the time Giordano reached the restaurant, it was closed.

Giordano told investigators he was trying to get help, rouse someone from the restaurant. The surveillance video shows him crisscrossing the restaurant from the bar to the patio and going around back. He appears calm.

Investigators said that it appeared that Giordano wanted to be visible on every camera at the restaurant as if to establish an alibi.

<snipped>

Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-aruban-authorities-enact-missing-maryland-womans/story?id=14551884


Still wearing his toupee just after snorkling? Doesn't sound right to me . How do they stay on, glue? Waterproof glue?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 03:29:43 PM
I either heard this on GMA this morning or saw it on an ABC video, the authorities in Aruba waited four weeks to send Robyn's IPAD and some blood evidence for testing.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'll try to find it later when I have more time.

It seems odd to me that Robyn has the same dress on in every picture and video that we've seen.  Did she wear the same dress all three days she was there?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 19, 2011, 03:43:12 PM
I would like to see the Aruban Investigators ask if anyone noticed boats in the area that day?  Wonder if they have interviewed the fisherman who said he saw Robyn and Gary on the Beach?  Wonder if there are any aerial photos from helicopter tours?

Seems to me, if you had an accomplice to help you "get rid" of someone, or a dead body for that matter, it would be smart to hire an accomplice with a boat.   

Why did Giordano take Robyn to the end of the island closest to Venezuela for snorkeling?  Why not stay near the hotel and the "white sand with umbrellas and drinks" tourist beaches?

IMO, Robyn looked more like she was ready for a photo shoot than snorkeling.  Long dress and Platform shoes on a rocky beach?  Looks like she even did her hair.  She wasn't going snorkeling.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hey Mr. Baez, how many times has Giordano traveled to Aruba?  Was this his first visit?

Just when we thought we wouldn't have to listen to that windbag anymore, Baez is back on the morning circuit.   :smt078

Thanks for all the news, monkeys.   ::MonkeyBike::




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 19, 2011, 03:48:54 PM
I either heard this on GMA this morning or saw it on an ABC video, the authorities in Aruba waited four weeks to send Robyn's IPAD and some blood evidence for testing.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'll try to find it later when I have more time.

It seems odd to me that Robyn has the same dress on in every picture and video that we've seen.  Did she wear the same dress all three days she was there?

Thank you, TM.  I know Robyn didn't wear that dress the whole time she was in Aruba.

Did anyone see Robyn in any other outfits?  Like a pair of shorts?  Or by the pool?  She doesn't look like the kind of girl who even gets her head wet at the pool.  Any surveillance from the hotel where they stayed? 

Fishy, IMO.   ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 19, 2011, 09:46:24 PM
I either heard this on GMA this morning or saw it on an ABC video, the authorities in Aruba waited four weeks to send Robyn's IPAD and some blood evidence for testing.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'll try to find it later when I have more time.

It seems odd to me that Robyn has the same dress on in every picture and video that we've seen.  Did she wear the same dress all three days she was there?

Thank you, TM.  I know Robyn didn't wear that dress the whole time she was in Aruba.

Did anyone see Robyn in any other outfits?  Like a pair of shorts?  Or by the pool?  She doesn't look like the kind of girl who even gets her head wet at the pool.  Any surveillance from the hotel where they stayed? 

Fishy, IMO.   ::MonkeyNoNo::




Mighta been her bathing suit cover up thing?  I think I read here or somewhere that she had hair extensions and that she probably wouldn't swim in the ocean much because of them and the amount of make up she usually wore. Why go to a beach resort with that much restrictions on having fun in the water?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 09:58:17 PM
I either heard this on GMA this morning or saw it on an ABC video, the authorities in Aruba waited four weeks to send Robyn's IPAD and some blood evidence for testing.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'll try to find it later when I have more time.

It seems odd to me that Robyn has the same dress on in every picture and video that we've seen.  Did she wear the same dress all three days she was there?

o.k. found it, it's at the very end of this video...he specifically said that they'd just found out yesterday that key forensic evidence including Robyn's Ipad and "blood stains" had not been sent for analysis until two weeks ago; four weeks after Robyn's disappearance.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-aruban-authorities-enact-missing-maryland-womans/story?id=14551884


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 10:08:24 PM
Good grief

Renho... :smt030  like we really needed someone to explain what an "reenactment" is...gmafb

And then JB spewing his crap   ::boxingbaez2::

all in the same clip!

 :smt088    :smt078


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on September 19, 2011, 10:23:29 PM
I either heard this on GMA this morning or saw it on an ABC video, the authorities in Aruba waited four weeks to send Robyn's IPAD and some blood evidence for testing.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'll try to find it later when I have more time.

It seems odd to me that Robyn has the same dress on in every picture and video that we've seen.  Did she wear the same dress all three days she was there?

o.k. found it, it's at the very end of this video...he specifically said that they'd just found out yesterday that key forensic evidence including Robyn's Ipad and "blood stains" had not been sent for analysis until two weeks ago; four weeks after Robyn's disappearance.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-aruban-authorities-enact-missing-maryland-womans/story?id=14551884

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 10:24:52 PM
Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 19, 2011, 11:04:44 PM
Another thing that kind of hits me weird about this case is the lack of outrage or comments from her family. Her boyfriend that was at home has spoken out a lot but I don't recall brothers/sisters/mother/father saying too much.  Maybe they did at the beginning and I missed it.
   


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 11:16:02 PM
Another thing that kind of hits me weird about this case is the lack of outrage or comments from her family. Her boyfriend that was at home has spoken out a lot but I don't recall brothers/sisters/mother/father saying too much.  Maybe they did at the beginning and I missed it.
   

Robyn's brother started the FB page for her, and has had a couple very short interviews (with his face hidden).

I'm thinking that Robyn's father is not in good health (maybe posted on Robyn's facebook page) ; that's why her mom traveled to Aruba with either a cousin or friend of Robyn's a couple days after her disappearance, but he didn't go.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/robyn-gardner-mother-we-can-only-pray_n_924167.html#s326251&title=Robyn_Gardner

 ::snipping2::

Andrea Colson, Gardner's mother, issued the statement one day after island authorities called off the search for the 35-year-old woman.

"We can only pray that she will soon be with us and bring back the joy into our lives. She means the world to us," Colson said in a release. "We are hoping for the very best outcome with the help of the international community."

 ::snipping2::

"We are confident and very grateful to the Aruba authorities and volunteers who are working above and beyond all our expectations," she said in a statement circulated by The Natalee Holloway Resource Center. "I hope you understand that we are being quiet as to not jeopardize the investigation. Please continue to pray for Robyn. Thank you."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 11:18:07 PM
I'm not sure if this is right or not, but I got the impression the brother was afraid of what Giordano might do if he was released at the time of his interviews.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 19, 2011, 11:22:46 PM
Thank you TM!  I really appreciate how smart and on top of it you and everybody else is.
Glad to know that Robyn does have family and  I hope that their trust in the Aruban system is rewarded. I'm not so sure about that.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 11:34:13 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

Carla Baron
Quote
I am deeply disturbed by the information I have received directly by not only one of Robyn Gardner's intimate friends - but SEVERAL, in fact.

They have each relayed the EXACT same data - not knowing any of the others had ALSO contacted me on their own with the same set of marked details.

It was revealed that ROBYN GARDNER suffered a "broken arm," and she received multiple "mystery" bruises/ contusions on her body when returning home from seeing Richard Forester. [This was months prior to her trip to Aruba w/ Gary Giordano, I understood.]

Without me saying one word - because I was stunned by what they said next - EACH ONE believed wholeheartedly and KNEW that Richard Forester was the one responsible for "Robyn's broken arm" and was also the one who administered the "mystery" bruises.

THEY WERE CERTAIN. (Even though they said Richard denied it when confronted, and Robyn covered for him afterwards, as many victims of domestic violence will do.)

I had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with these statements originating from Robyn's intimate close ones. NOTHING.

But I felt if even one shred of this was the truth ... I had to at least come forward in this unique instance.

May God help him if this is so ..


- Psychic Carla Baron

· Yesterday at 12:18am


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 19, 2011, 11:39:28 PM
Thank you TM!  I really appreciate how smart and on top of it you and everybody else is.
Glad to know that Robyn does have family and  I hope that their trust in the Aruban system is rewarded. I'm not so sure about that.

YW mizjay, I'm not so sure about either.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

But I can't blame her family for being cautious, I can't bear to imagine...and hope I never have to walk in those shoes.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 20, 2011, 12:04:16 AM
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

September 20, 2011 Page 2

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09202011_AweMainta_Pg2.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 20, 2011, 12:51:29 AM
Why the complaint?  Lopez should have encouraged Gary to participate and direct the re-enactment.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/09/19/general-cb-aruba-missing-american_8688982.html

Defense blasts 'one-sided' re-enactment in Aruba
Associated Press, 09.19.11, 09:59 PM EDT 

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- A lawyer for a U.S. man detained in Aruba is criticizing prosecutors' re-enactment of the purported drowning of his client's travel partner.

Defense lawyer Michael Lopez says Monday's re-enactment was "one-sided" because authorities ignored some of Gary Giordano's statements about what happened to 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. Lopez also complains he wasn't allowed to videotape the exercise.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 20, 2011, 10:22:56 AM
It was Gary Giordano's choice not to co-operate in the reinactment.

Janet

++++


Defense blasts 'one-sided' re-enactment in Aruba
Published: 7:05 am
Updated: 7:08 am


ORANJESTAD, Aruba(AP) A lawyer for a U.S. man detained in Aruba is criticizing prosecutors' re-enactment of the purported drowning of his client's travel partner.

Defense lawyer Michael Lopez says Monday's re-enactment was "one-sided" because authorities ignored some of Gary Giordano's statements about what happened to 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. Lopez also complains he wasn't allowed to videotape the exercise.

Giordano has been detained on suspicion of involvement in Gardner's presumed death. Authorities say the re-enactment was to test Giordano's account of what happened to Gardner

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Defense-blasts-one-sided-re-enactment-in-Aruba/-Hglkafu5UeysaKuCxKK_g.cspx



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 20, 2011, 02:06:25 PM
Blood and ipad sent for forensic tests two weeks ago because of budget cuts.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b85W6dtPOSY&feature=player_embedded

YouTube:  Reconstructing Missing Woman's Movements
Uploaded by ABCNews on Sep 19, 2011

Aruban authorities are retracing missing tourist Robyn Gardner's last steps.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 20, 2011, 02:12:37 PM
I have a hinky feeling the Gary Giordano is going to walk.  I hope my hinky feeling is wrong.  I hope that dots are being connected behind the scenes which imply that justice will prevail for Robyn Gardner.

Janet

++++++

Robyn Gardner Also Bought Insurance Policy, Suspect's Lawyer Claims
By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and KATIE KINDELAN
Sept. 20, 2011


The attorney for Gary Giordano says the now-missing U.S. woman his client traveled to Aruba with last month, Robyn Gardner, also took out her own insurance policy for the trip.

"Yes, the two of them had policies on each other," Jose Baez, the newly hired defense attorney for Giordano said today on "Good Morning America." "Now, of course, since Gary was paying for the trip, Gary was the beneficiary of Robyn's policy."

Giordano submitted an insurance policy on Gardner July 30, one day before the pair, who met on an online swingers' website, left for a weeklong trip to Aruba.

Gardner, 35, has been missing since Aug. 2. Giordano, 50, has told authorities that the two went snorkeling and that the Maryland woman was swept out to sea by a strong current.

Baez told "GMA" it was not uncommon for his client to take out insurance before going on a trip.

"Every time Mr. Giordano has traveled this year, whether it's been with Robyn Gardner or other individuals, he, in fact, had another companion that he traveled with, he got the same insurance," said Baez, the same attorney who represented Casey Anthony in her recent murder trial.

He also fought back against claims from the prosecution and Gardner's family and friends that Giordano was eager to cash in on the $1.5 million insurance policy on Gardner.

Giordano contacted the insurance company four times in the days after Gardner vanished.

An insurance agent who spoke with ABC News said that no one she's dealt with in the entire year has both mailed a hard copy of their policy and faxed it in, noting Giordano's urgency in getting the documents in before the trip.

The insurance policy on Gardner is dated July 27, and is initialed and signed by Gardner, though the beneficiary information is filled out in Giordano's handwriting. Giordano listed his mother as his beneficiary on the forms.

"They're not life insurance policies," Baez said. "What they are basically are travel insurance, so what this covers is medical, dental, car rental and a whole slew of other things, including accidental death."  

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-bought-insurance-policy-suspects-lawyer-claims/story?id=14563212


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 20, 2011, 02:27:42 PM
In the same article, it states--

"Meanwhile, Giordano could face more legal trouble back home in the United States. A federal grand jury is scheduled to convene in Maryland tomorrow to determine whether Giordano could face U.S. charges in the case."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-bought-insurance-policy-suspects-lawyer-claims/story?id=14563212&page=2


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 20, 2011, 02:34:14 PM
In the same article, it states--

"Meanwhile, Giordano could face more legal trouble back home in the United States. A federal grand jury is scheduled to convene in Maryland tomorrow to determine whether Giordano could face U.S. charges in the case."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-bought-insurance-policy-suspects-lawyer-claims/story?id=14563212&page=2


 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 20, 2011, 02:45:35 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/37110-investigadonan-a-reconstrui-e-ultimo-momentonan-di-robyn-gardner.html

Papiamentu translation:

investigadonan owing to reconstrui the ultimo momentonan of robyn gardner

tuesday, 20 september 2011 12:08 yesterday morning did take luga the reconstruccion for thing is the caso of robyn gardner. as is conoci, day 2 of august was the ultimo day cu know of the lady mericano here of 35 year, that was compaña for gary giordano, that not was t’ey present. advocate michael lopez if was t’ey, same cu other prensa mericano, esta abc y nbc, y also prensa local.

this is for reconstrui the ultimo momentonan of the lady here, for see con far investigacionnan can bay for so succeed soluciona the caso here. kico owing to happen during the ultimo momentonan y con el’a haci desaparece.

we will stay pendiente for see kico the resultadonan here is trece for so we can place one end at one another caso tragico, cu not as the caso of holloway, owing to trece cierto atencion close medianan mericano.

(several pictures at the link)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 20, 2011, 02:53:27 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2039616/Robyn-Gardners-moments-suspect-Gary-Giordano-enacted-Aruba.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Robyn Gardner's final journey: American tourist's last moments with suspect Gary Giordano re-enacted by police in Aruba

Police retrace Gardner and Giordano's last steps to try to solve mystery of her disappearance
Photos showed pair partying just two days before she vanished
CCTV footage showed Girodano taking Robyn on 'trial run' to the stretch of beach from where she would vanish just one day later


By Paul Bentley
Last updated at 5:13 PM on 20th September 2011

Police in Aruba have staged a dramatic reconstruction of American tourist Robyn Gardner's final moments in an attempt finally to discover how she disappeared.

Actors dressed as Miss Gardner and her vacation partner Gary Giordano, who she is said to have met on a swingers website, yesterday were seen on the beach where she went missing, playing out different scenarios to work out how likely they are to have happened.

Giordano, 50, is the only suspect being questioned in relation to the disappearance of Gardner, 35, who has been missing since August 2. The older man is being held in custody for 60 days, but police need more evidence to charge him with murder

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 20, 2011, 02:55:15 PM
http://www.awe24.com/20110919/8504/Dialuna_atardi_a_tuma_lugar_e_recreacion_pa_e_investigacion_di_desaparicion_di

Papiamentu translation:

monday nightfall did take lugar the recreacion for her investigacion of desaparicion of robyn lynn gardner

22 hora happen come across, 19 of september 2011 16:20

monday nightfall several oficial owing to bay near of ex nanki for so haci one recreacion of locual owing to sosode near of nanki provided that conneccion cu the desaparicion of the lady tourist robyn lynn gardner. come across

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8504/21_1316530955.jpg)

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8504/22_1316530956.jpg)

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8504/16_1316530953.jpg)

More pictures and video clips at the link.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 20, 2011, 02:55:54 PM
The actor that played Gary's part didn't have his toupee on!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 20, 2011, 03:59:03 PM
Just so I understand....they didn't have the budget to collect real forensic information: cell phone, iPad, mileage recorded on a rental car, dirt from the rental car tires....

but they do have the budget to reenact what they don't know....they have many people on the beach, the time of day is different, there is a boat in the water and I don't see any swimmers...this reenactment will add to the actual surveillance videos??

Do they have the currents report from that day and time?  Did they send anyone into the water that evening, to check on the currents? I only saw pictures of everyone on the shore looking at the water.  Even if a helicopter went up that evening (and I bet it was the next day because the office would have closed), what would that tell about the currents?

Is there a reason they didn't let the FBI do the electronic evaluation?...I mean other than they are not Dutch?

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: :smt102




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on September 20, 2011, 04:01:19 PM
Please tell me that is not Robyn's real dress.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 20, 2011, 05:45:56 PM
In the same article, it states--

"Meanwhile, Giordano could face more legal trouble back home in the United States. A federal grand jury is scheduled to convene in Maryland tomorrow to determine whether Giordano could face U.S. charges in the case."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-bought-insurance-policy-suspects-lawyer-claims/story?id=14563212&page=2


 ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 20, 2011, 05:49:16 PM
Just so I understand....they didn't have the budget to collect real forensic information: cell phone, iPad, mileage recorded on a rental car, dirt from the rental car tires....

but they do have the budget to reenact what they don't know....they have many people on the beach, the time of day is different, there is a boat in the water and I don't see any swimmers...this reenactment will add to the actual surveillance videos??

Do they have the currents report from that day and time?  Did they send anyone into the water that evening, to check on the currents? I only saw pictures of everyone on the shore looking at the water.  Even if a helicopter went up that evening (and I bet it was the next day because the office would have closed), what would that tell about the currents?

Is there a reason they didn't let the FBI do the electronic evaluation?...I mean other than they are not Dutch?

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: :smt102




They go to a lot of trouble to demonstrate how not to conduct an investigation, don't they?
And then they go and make a spectacle of it all! 

They are not even ashamed of the stupid crap they do!

Aruba sucks.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 20, 2011, 06:21:24 PM
In the same article, it states--

"Meanwhile, Giordano could face more legal trouble back home in the United States. A federal grand jury is scheduled to convene in Maryland tomorrow to determine whether Giordano could face U.S. charges in the case."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-bought-insurance-policy-suspects-lawyer-claims/story?id=14563212&page=2


 ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks Grace

Does this imply that the FBI are conducting a parallel investigation along side of Aruba into the disappearance of Robyn Gardner?

After over six year of following the Natalee Holloway case ... I have learned something new regarding the possibility of an FBI investigation into criminal wrongdoing of one American against another American while on Aruban soil.

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 20, 2011, 06:44:23 PM
http://travel.usatoday.com/destinations/dispatches/post/2011/09/travelers-warned-about-dengue-fever-in-the-bahamas/547928/1

Travelers warned about dengue fever in The Bahamas

By Laura Bly, USA TODAY Updated <1m ago


The federal Centers for Disease Control is warning U.S. travelers about an outbreak of dengue fever in the Bahamas, where officials suspect about 1,000 cases of the mosquito-borne virus since Aug. 9. An unspecified but higher-than-normal number of Americans have returned from the popular vacation spot with symptoms, which can include high fever, rash, muscle and joint pain and pain behind the eyes, the CDC says.


Last week's Bahamas notice coincides with another CDC update, noting that dengue is the most common cause of fever in travelers returning from the Caribbean, Central America, and South Central Asia. As of August 5, more than 890,000 cases have been reported to the Pan American Health Organization this year, including 10,840 cases of sometimes fatal dengue hemorrhagic fever and/or dengue shock syndrome. It is widespread in Puerto Rico, and several countries across the region are reporting high incidence rates in addition to the Bahamas, including Brazil, Paraguay, Bolivia, and Aruba. Cases have also been confirmed in Florida and Hawaii.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 20, 2011, 07:27:38 PM
I can't take it, monkeys.  Aruba makes me crazy! ::pullinghairout:: ::pullinghairout:: ::pullinghairout::

Why in the world would the Aruban Investigators have a "re-enactment" to test whether or not Giordano's story is plausible?  If they determine his story is not plausible, how does that help?  Then what, ask him again?

Is this secondary to finding Robyn?  Wouldn't your first priority be to find Robyn?  What good does a re-enactment do if they don't find a live Robyn or her body?

Couldn't you always do a re-enactment later?

Priority #1:  Find Robyn! 

It has been over six weeks.  They never really made a serious effort to look for her. 

 ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 20, 2011, 08:07:46 PM
I can't take it, monkeys.  Aruba makes me crazy! ::pullinghairout:: ::pullinghairout:: ::pullinghairout::

Why in the world would the Aruban Investigators have a "re-enactment" to test whether or not Giordano's story is plausible?  If they determine his story is not plausible, how does that help?  Then what, ask him again?

Is this secondary to finding Robyn?  Wouldn't your first priority be to find Robyn?  What good does a re-enactment do if they don't find a live Robyn or her body?

Couldn't you always do a re-enactment later?

Priority #1:  Find Robyn! 

It has been over six weeks.  They never really made a serious effort to look for her. 

 ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2::

I know how you feel Helen Back, believe me I do!   ::pullinghairout::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 20, 2011, 08:14:35 PM
http://meandmrjonesonnataleeisland.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-08-09T18%3A06%3A00%2B02%3A00&max-results=7

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::

Monday, August 8, 2011

THE MYSTERY OF ARUBA - BACKSTAGE 2 - ME AND MR JONES ON ISLAND Natalee

Tell anyone you're a filmmaker, because then they kick you off the island, warned a Dutch producer, well known in the West Indies. A joke? No, he really wanted us undercover went.

Then he wanted us to help do research. He arranged for a friend from Curacao, Aruba would that put us on a tour. Undercover . On one condition: we should never ever call his name.

We flew to Aruba with a strange feeling: Why all the secrecy? That excessive caution? Aruba had something to hide? Surely not: Aruba, as they say, "one happy island".

We drove along the hot white sand flats with a huge line timeshare apartments. It suffocated because of the Americans: it was almost a U.S. colony. That friend from Curacao.

The friend said that Aruba was totally dependent on tourism for Americans, and they were far to the Americans to get inside. Example: Americans often have no passport. Aruba therefore arranged that even Americans without passports were allowed on the island.

We looked at each other: The Dutch had our passports to show "us" to Aruba, but Americans could just walk in? What is this? In Aruba, Dutch law still applies and so?

Certainly, said the friend, but what is important now for the Aruban: Dutch law or an income of Americans? Nobody here wants the American money chase. That is their existence.


So, if you want to know something, you need to undercover if you will be kicked into the sea. If you say you're filming, is a threat to the economy of Aruba, which has already suffered so much through this mystery. There was nothing: we had undercover journalism to business.


We did not know then that a few years later, the film largely undercover ... had to record with Robert de Hoog as an undercover journalist.

Then we knew not that the Aruban cinemas recently decided not to film the island-turned-unseen, because ... fill in yourself.

But that was not our biggest problem ...   

Posted by Paul Ruven on 08/08/2011

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 20, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
Did they even put a "body" in the water at the distance Giordano said they were at to see if it sank or drifted or what? I don't even see the purpose of this . I didn't see that the Robyn person had a beach bag, did she leave her dress on the sand, in the car? Her PLATFORM sandals? Did he say he picked her stuff up? This is Dutch investigation? Unless he did something really stupid I bet he walks. With Baez on board, the Robyn character assassination will be next.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: KittyMom on September 20, 2011, 11:04:38 PM
Have officials in Aruba been in the sun too long?  Their idea of an investigation is to reenact the event like a cheap drama. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 20, 2011, 11:08:53 PM
Have officials in Aruba been in the sun too long?  Their idea of an investigation is to reenact the event like a cheap drama. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sadly enough for the victims, I think your description about sums it up.   ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 20, 2011, 11:48:19 PM
Have officials in Aruba been in the sun too long?  Their idea of an investigation is to reenact the event like a cheap drama. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sadly enough for the victims, I think your description about sums it up.   ::MonkeyNoNo::





It reminds me of some medieval troupe in resort wear. As if all of them standing around reenacting that skeeze Giordano calling out to sea, hopping in a vehicle is going to bring some answers....Doh!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 21, 2011, 12:43:29 AM
http://arubaherald.com/court/1160-investigators-reconstruct-robyn-gardners-presumed-last-moments.html

Investigators reconstruct Robyn Gardner's presumed last moments
Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:55 

 ::snipping2::

His lawyer Michael Lopez was present. US media ABC and NBC, as well as local media representatives followed the reconstruction from an area designated by authorities. Three people who had spoken to Giordano previous to his arrest were present at the reconstruction. Lopez expressed that he did not understand the decision of investigators to reconstruct the case since they did not include the events of August 1 in the process. The area where the suspect said they had gone into the water to snorkel was closed off to media. NBC rented a yacht to be able to follow the coastal activities. Despite attempts by the authorities to keep them far enough at sea, they were able to make their recordings anyways. The weather played an important role in the recreation, as the bad weather from Sunday night through Monday morning made it a little complicated to work properly in the Nanki area. It was also said that the actors did not follow the script properly and the tide was higher compared to the day of the actual events. The lawyer told media that he could not comprehend the sense of recreating Robyn Gardner's last moments. He added that details were not properly taken into account and it points only in one direction. No results from the reconstruction have been announced.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 21, 2011, 10:37:32 AM
In the same article, it states--

"Meanwhile, Giordano could face more legal trouble back home in the United States. A federal grand jury is scheduled to convene in Maryland tomorrow to determine whether Giordano could face U.S. charges in the case."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-bought-insurance-policy-suspects-lawyer-claims/story?id=14563212&page=2


Reminder

The federal grand jury that is to convene today in Maryland should be very interesting.

Is the FBI conducting an independent parallel investigation into the disappearance of an American on Aruban soil?

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 21, 2011, 01:02:21 PM
It should be interesting, Janet.  Since Giordano has not be charged with any crime, yet, the FBI might want "to determine whether Giordano could face U.S. charges in the case" probably based on a missing American woman, findings from the house search, the insurance policy, and witness statements in the United States.  jmo


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 21, 2011, 01:17:52 PM
Was ist das?

Domain Name the-fbi.net ? (Network)

somebody is looking into something me thinks........

Netherlands came right into murder & crime thread:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.2260


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 21, 2011, 01:33:56 PM
It should be interesting, Janet.  Since Giordano has not be charged with any crime, yet, the FBI might want "to determine whether Giordano could face U.S. charges in the case" probably based on a missing American woman, findings from the house search, the insurance policy, and witness statements in the United States.  jmo


 ::rhino::

I am so taken back by this federal grand jury.  As the alleged crime took place on Aruban soil ... it was my understanding that the Robyn Gardner case was an Aruban investigation.

In the Natalee Holloway case ... the FBI did not conduct a parallel invesitgation.  The difference?  The main suspect was not American.  All the evidence was in the possession of Aruban investigators and they were not sharing.

Will any info be released in regards to witnesses and statements?

Janet

++++


Never Passed the Ball

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 184: Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 21, 2011, 01:47:06 PM
LOOKING BACK at the Natalee case to the Aru-bay videos I find the similarities a bit too convenient. Remember, people have patterns.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1340066160391147086
ARU-BAY VIDEO 32
Watch how far the surf breaks. One would have to be out beyond that break in order
to get carried away out to sea I would think.

Baby Beach next to the Esso Club.

The refinery is still there and operational. It can be seen from Baby Beach
(http://www.aruba-sunsets.com/images/Aruba-BabyBeachSM.jpg)
Baby beach is on the southern tip of Aruba, miles away from the resort and hotel areas-About a 35 minute car ride.




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on September 21, 2011, 01:49:12 PM
http://www.gazette.net/article/20110920/NEWS/709209991/1016/1016/aruban-police-re-enact-woman-s-disappearance&template=gazette

Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Aruban police re-enact woman’s disappearance
Lead suspect Gary Giordano of Gaithersburg retains high-profile attorney
by Jen Bondeson, Staff Writer

 ::snipping2::

This is the second time police have re-enacted Gardner’s disappearance — the first was a few days after Giordano was arrested, Angela said.

It is normal procedure for prosecutors to re-enact events in a missing persons case, she said.

Giordano’s court-appointed lawyer, Michael O. Lopez, has said Giordano denies any wrongdoing and that he should be released.

 ::snipping2::

According to Aruban law, Giordano could be detained for nearly five months without being charged with a crime.

A judge ruled Aug. 31 that Giordano was to remain in jail until Oct. 30. After those 60 days, prosecutors normally request a trial date to be set, Angela said.

If the investigators need more time, they could request two additional 30-day detention periods, she said.

After that, prosecutors will be required to either request a trial or release Giordano, she said.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 21, 2011, 01:52:41 PM

I am so taken back by this federal grand jury.  As the alleged crime took place on Aruban soil ... it was my understanding that the Robyn Gardner case was an Aruban investigation.

In the Natalee Holloway case ... the FBI did not conduct a parallel invesitgation.  The difference?  The main suspect was not American.  All the evidence was in the possession of Aruban investigators and they were not sharing.

Will any info be released in regards to witnesses and statements?

Janet

maybe the grand jury has more to do with sexual activity/threats/internet etc then Aruba's arrest of Giordano for Robyns disappearance.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 21, 2011, 02:16:42 PM

I am so taken back by this federal grand jury.  As the alleged crime took place on Aruban soil ... it was my understanding that the Robyn Gardner case was an Aruban investigation.

In the Natalee Holloway case ... the FBI did not conduct a parallel invesitgation.  The difference?  The main suspect was not American.  All the evidence was in the possession of Aruban investigators and they were not sharing.

Will any info be released in regards to witnesses and statements?

Janet

maybe the grand jury has more to do with sexual activity/threats/internet etc then Aruba's arrest of Giordano for Robyns disappearance.



Ribbit

You could be right.  The words of the article "in the case" stood out to me..

Janet

+++++

In the same article, it states--

"Meanwhile, Giordano could face more legal trouble back home in the United States. A federal grand jury is scheduled to convene in Maryland tomorrow to determine whether Giordano could face U.S. charges in the case."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/robyn-gardner-bought-insurance-policy-suspects-lawyer-claims/story?id=14563212&page=2



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 21, 2011, 02:41:59 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Aruba%20Landscapes/babybeach-703090.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 21, 2011, 02:52:12 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/21/robyn-gardner-reenactment_n_973859.html#s326251&title=Robyn_Gardner

Robyn Gardner Suspect Gary Guirdano Criticizes Reenactment (VIDEO)

First Posted: 9/21/11 01:54 PM ET Updated: 9/21/11 01:54 PM ET
The lead suspect in the case of missing American tourist Robyn Gardner is criticizing a police reenactment simulating his account of the 35-year-old woman's disappearance.

In new footage obtained by the Associated Press, authorities can be seen testing Gary Giordano's claim that Gardner drowned in Aruba's Baby Beach. The video shows a woman with blond hair wearing a similarly patterned dress to the one Gardner wore in photographs from her vacation.

Giordano's attorney called the simulation "one sided," adding that police ignored some of his client's statements. The lawyer also took issue with law enforcement officials prohibiting him from recording the exercise himself.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 21, 2011, 10:51:37 PM
Anyone know the answers?
IF he drowned Robyn, would the average body in that area be swept out or wash back up?
Has Giordano made other trips to Aruba in the last year? If he did something to hide her dead body undoubtedly he'd have to make contacts locally.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on September 21, 2011, 11:10:38 PM
I sure hope this creep doesn't walk..especially since Bozo is on board ....he will really get a big head then thinking that he is such a good lawyer...getting 2 murderers off... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 22, 2011, 12:41:44 AM
 ::MonkeyRoll::

http://arubaherald.com/local/1162-jose-baez-convinced-that-gary-giordano-did-not-kill-robyn-gardner.html

Jose Baez convinced that Gary Giordano did not kill Robyn Gardner         

Wednesday, 21 September 2011 00:18

There is no proof that Gary Giordano killed Robyn Gardner, U.S. lawyer Jose Baez told U.S. media.
 ::snipping2::
The Public Prosecutor's office is trying to damage the case against Giordano to show that they have done something to solve it, Baez expressed. This is something that was not done properly in the Natalee Holloway case.. The lawyer added that there is enormous pressure to solve this case. He said that authorities were not able to present anything concrete to accuse his client and he finds that his client should not be locked up at KIA together with violent criminals and those who have seriously violated the law. In addition, the conditions are deplorable, he said. The lawyer thinks that Robyn has drowned, considering to the available evidence. Concerning the life insurance, Baez said that considering that his client is a person who has traveled with various ladies, he has held similar policies to that of Gardner's, which is nothing unusual.
 ::snipping2::

 ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 22, 2011, 02:53:04 AM
Anyone know the answers?
IF he drowned Robyn, would the average body in that area be swept out or wash back up?
Has Giordano made other trips to Aruba in the last year? If he did something to hide her dead body undoubtedly he'd have to make contacts locally.


It would be interesting to know if he'd traveled there before, and what connections he might have to others who either live there or travel there.  But I haven't seen any of that information revealed yet.  I'd like to know if the accomplice report in NE is true or not too.  Nothing else about that so far that I've seen.

Reports of a some drownings at nearby Baby Beach...there have been many; I don't recall any where the body wasn't found either in the water or washed up.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8656.msg1250136#msg1250136

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_79863.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Re drowning at Baby Beach

October 20, 2010, 13:54 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - A U.S. tourist has drowned yesterday afternoon at Baby Beach. The floating, lifeless body of Robert Barbach (born 1952) was about a quarter to three in the afternoon found in the bay. His family initially thought he might have had a heart attack. Barbach were, in fact under the care of a cardiologist. The doctor who reported the incident, said the death but to "an excess of water in the lungs. How the man from drowning, is not known. According to police, there are no eyewitnesses. Barbach stayed with his family to the Caribbean Palm Village Hotel.

It is the fifth time this year that tourists are killed by drowning at Baby Beach. The other incidents occurred in the months April, June and August. In connection with the tragedy announced Tourism Minister Otmar Oduber (AVP) in August that there will be lifeguards. These lifeguards are trained now, but the money to wait on the beach places has not yet been released. The minister also said that 'clear information' must be provided to tourists. He refers to warning signs.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/27887-otro-turista-di-edad-ta-hoga-na-baby-beach.html

Papiamentu translation:

another tourist of edad is hoga at baby beach

thursday, 17 february 2011 12:12

famianan of he luigi jachetti of 70 year of edad naci at italia was together cu ne landando at baby beach hour cu he owing to hoga. the do not abide of curason, but if of presion. his casa owing to count ; cu they have more of 20 year biniendo aruba, they have one timeshare in la cabana hotel. the victima is become one more on the list of turistanan of edad cu is hoga during the ultimo lunanan. compel at his famianan.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/18672-posibel-caso-di-hogamento-na-baby-beach.html

Papiamentu translation:

tourist is hoga at baby beach

monday, 14 june 2010 15:21

at the momentonan here we owing to end of ricibi informe cu evictìma iche liu huang nasi at taiwan 20 december 1966 kedando at marriot hotel owing to fayece. dr woy loy sing come across.a constata dead 4or y 12 owing to cause of hogamento. slachtofferhulp is yudando the famianan. the was companja for his husband y two yiunan. paz at his restonan.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/24693-turista-a-hoga-na-baby-beach-.html

tourist owing to hoga at baby beach

thursday, 25 november 2010 21:04

today tardi more or less 2or police owing to atende one call of one caso of hogamento at baby beach. at arrival of the unidad policial berdad owing to come come across cu one curpa of a man cu not was give sign of life. for more or less 3:55pm dr. kiewiet owing to constata dead natural of michael hinton, naci at merca of 72 year of edad y hospedando together cu his family for the time being at divi village. is sospecha cu the victima will owing to find one ataca of curason during cu the was landando. bureau slachtofferhulp owing to present at the sitio for give sosten y yudansa at famianan of the fayecido. paz at his restonan.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Thought this was interesting too...from 2006

Witness reported illegals arriving from Venezuela in the same area, one jumped out of the boat and drowned...but they found him.  If I understand it correctly the other illegals that survived, the boat, nor the car that the illegals used could be located by the police and coast guard.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=378.msg52889#msg52889

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2006/9/25/

Papiamentu translation:
 ::snipping2::
oranjestad(aan): contrabando for trece person aruba is follow for of venezuela. saturday once more one victima owing to stay registra after cu one boat procedente of venezuela owing to descend one cantidad of person ilegalmente at height of cemetery of cacho where they owing to succeed lever ground just behind ex-nanki country club. the first informenan owing to enter close police for of oranan trempan of morning after cu testigonan owing to see con one car owing to lever person y descend at water for of the lugar. here is deal of more or less cinco (4) ilegal cu owing to lever ground.
 ::snipping2::
police not owing to come across cu the car here, but owing to busca rond without achieve none another ilegal on ground. kustwacht also owing to saca they boat where they not owing to come across cu none boat more the instant ey. same helicopter owing to arise vuelo for help cu the buskeda. according the day owing to open owing to enter another informacion of one curpa without life cu owing to stick at canto. here is deal of one of esnan cu owing to fly for of the boat y not owing to succeed arrive ground at life because past owing to hoga. is deal of one young jose francisco sanchez sanchez naci at peru day 25 of september 1976, then today the will owing to accomplish 30 year.
 ::snipping2::


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


This person almost drowned, but was rescued...

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/32322-a-salba-bida-di-un-landado-na-baby-beach.html

Papiamentu translation:

owing to save life of one landado at baby beach

thursday, 02 june 2011 21:49

one man owing to achieve problem in lama behind rum reef (ex nanki country club or esso club) y one good samaritano, mr. sjoerd owing to bay in accion y owing to enter water come cu the victima ground. past owing to work incansablemente on he cu was for of conocemento y owing to guli much water. owing to keep much on arrival of ambulance but he not owing to "give up" till cu the victima owing to reacciona. ambulance owing to transporta the victima for tratamento medico at hospital. come across



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 22, 2011, 02:55:44 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_HelpFindRobynColson_ProfilePic-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 22, 2011, 04:36:13 AM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/350900/thumbs/s-JOSE-BAEZ-large300.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 22, 2011, 04:36:29 AM
http://www.courts.state.md.us/


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 22, 2011, 04:37:51 AM
i have not given up! i spent the day in your room yesterday. i have packed up your photos and things that you cherish. your clothing is on the way to a shelter for "battered women". you would want that! your spirit LIVES...i BELIEVE, i have FAITH and there will be JUSTICE for you girl. don't listen to the EGO's. whatever happened will be discovered. i know you didn't snorkel in those shallow waters...i walked the sand you walked on in Aruba. God will bring the TRUTH. Lord hear OUR prayers! -CJ
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 22, 2011, 12:14:27 PM
i have not given up! i spent the day in your room yesterday. i have packed up your photos and things that you cherish. your clothing is on the way to a shelter for "battered women". you would want that! your spirit LIVES...i BELIEVE, i have FAITH and there will be JUSTICE for you girl. don't listen to the EGO's. whatever happened will be discovered. i know you didn't snorkel in those shallow waters...i walked the sand you walked on in Aruba. God will bring the TRUTH. Lord hear OUR prayers! -CJ
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall


Ribbit

In Your Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWD8-yMKczI


Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23


Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 22, 2011, 01:00:43 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/350900/thumbs/s-JOSE-BAEZ-large300.jpg)


:smt078


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 22, 2011, 01:52:58 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/350900/thumbs/s-JOSE-BAEZ-large300.jpg)


:smt078

Sheesh Janet, that's the first thing that pops up when getting on the thread!  EEK!  Makes me feel like calling the Orkin Pest Control Co.....rat

@ texasmom~ thanks for the reply again.   So, IF she drowned by accident or by foul play, reasonably she should have washed ashore. I mean it's not like they were way out diving, they were snorkling.
Unlike vanderslut who had ties and help....how could GG get this done without major prep?  Man, I hope the FBI is deeply involved especially with his computer and vacationing history.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Babybear on September 22, 2011, 02:22:24 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/350900/thumbs/s-JOSE-BAEZ-large300.jpg)


:smt078

Sheesh Janet, that's the first thing that pops up when getting on the thread!  EEK!  Makes me feel like calling the Orkin Pest Control Co.....rat

@ texasmom~ thanks for the reply again.   So, IF she drowned by accident or by foul play, reasonably she should have washed ashore. I mean it's not like they were way out diving, they were snorkling.
Unlike vanderslut who had ties and help....how could GG get this done without major prep?  Man, I hope the FBI is deeply involved especially with his computer and vacationing history.

Hi Monkeys--

IMO the headline should read "Giardiano Hires Clown as Attorney."  I don't think even an Aruban court would tolerate his antics, as Perry did.   He will probably say that George Anthony molested Robin and then she drown.  But he told Giardiano that he, George, would hide the body for him.  So Giardiano is innocent and George is out of Aruban jurisdiction. 
And that, my dears, makes as much sense as what George told the Casey Anthony jury. 

Actually I don't think the US Government can prosecute Giardiano because the crime did not occur in the US nor it's posessions.  If the Aruban government would agree, they could certainly assist them.  This is just my opinion, though.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on September 22, 2011, 04:46:50 PM
Baez says that Giordano has taken insurance on previous traveling companions... so, Mr. Baez... how many of these traveling companions has Giordano claimed as "DOMESTIC PARTNERS"?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on September 22, 2011, 06:32:53 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/350900/thumbs/s-JOSE-BAEZ-large300.jpg)


:smt078

Hiya monkey friends!  ::MonkeyWink::  I can't believe I finally had some time to quick lurk on here & this is the comment I'm leaving ... but at least it's honest & truthful ... : My son is in his room doing homework for his Anatomy & Physiology class. I swear to gosh there's an anatomical picture in that book that closely resembles the above picture. That there sho nuff looks like ALOT of extra skin to me ... There's a procedure that can be done to fix that ...  ::MonkeyDevil:: 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on September 22, 2011, 06:37:54 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/350900/thumbs/s-JOSE-BAEZ-large300.jpg)


Lmao! My son just said he looks like a Richard!!!!! Omg I have tears in my eyes!!!!! Bahahahaha!!!!!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on September 22, 2011, 06:38:47 PM
Texasmom, you still thinking maybe trafficking or some sort of setup scam?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on September 22, 2011, 06:41:32 PM
1 more thing... If Giordano is really to
blame, if if if he had help, wouldn't it have had to be organized to elude all govt entities? Does he have ties? Is he connected maybe?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on September 22, 2011, 06:45:50 PM
i have not given up! i spent the day in your room yesterday. i have packed up your photos and things that you cherish. your clothing is on the way to a shelter for "battered women". you would want that! your spirit LIVES...i BELIEVE, i have FAITH and there will be JUSTICE for you girl. don't listen to the EGO's. whatever happened will be discovered. i know you didn't snorkel in those shallow waters...i walked the sand you walked on in Aruba. God will bring the TRUTH. Lord hear OUR prayers! -CJ
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall


CJ is Christina, right? She sounds like a true blue friend with a huge heart for Robyn. I sure hope there'll be answers for all the questions surrounding Robyn's disappearance.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on September 22, 2011, 06:49:44 PM
i have not given up! i spent the day in your room yesterday. i have packed up your photos and things that you cherish. your clothing is on the way to a shelter for "battered women". you would want that! your spirit LIVES...i BELIEVE, i have FAITH and there will be JUSTICE for you girl. don't listen to the EGO's. whatever happened will be discovered. i know you didn't snorkel in those shallow waters...i walked the sand you walked on in Aruba. God will bring the TRUTH. Lord hear OUR prayers! -CJ
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall


Ribbit

In Your Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWD8-yMKczI


Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23


Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”


I should have read the next post before my last comment. Janet, you always have the exact perfect passage to quote. This is beautiful! Thanks for noting it.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 22, 2011, 07:46:03 PM
http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/before-aruba-case,-gary-giordano-was-busted-in-organized-retail-theft-operation

Aruba suspect Gary Giordano ran theft operation in Maryland in 2003

Posted: 4:24 PM

By: Joce Sterman

GERMANTOWN, Md. - Before Gary Giordano was at the center of the case involving the disappearance of Frederick’s Robyn Gardner in Aruba, he was the center of an organized retail theft operation in Montgomery County.  ABC2 News spoke exlusively with the detective behind the case.

Montgomery County Detective David Hill doesn't hang onto the files from every case he's handled. But for some reason he kept this one. [You held onto Gary Giordano’s file?] “I did. I did.”

 ::snipping2::

Giordano was the same guy he tracked eight years ago as part of an organized retail theft operation carried out in Montgomery and Frederick Counties. Hill says Giordano would boldly load his cart at Target stores in the area and roll right out the front door, sometimes returning to do it all again the same day.

Giordano's brush with the law in Montgomery County began back in 2003 began at a Target in Germantown, when he was busted shoplifting electronics on the surveillance cameras. Cops say he later sold the stolen gaming systems and DVD players on the internet.

Hill clearly remembers interviewing Giordano for the case, "He was an easy going guy. He wasn't a jerk. He would talk to us but he seemed like he was a step ahead of us. He didn't want to give us any information."

 ::snipping2::


Read more: http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/before-aruba-case,-gary-giordano-was-busted-in-organized-retail-theft-operation#ixzz1YjAg4OLZ


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 22, 2011, 07:47:23 PM
Baez says that Giordano has taken insurance on previous traveling companions... so, Mr. Baez... how many of these traveling companions has Giordano claimed as "DOMESTIC PARTNERS"?

Good question!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 22, 2011, 07:49:44 PM
Texasmom, you still thinking maybe trafficking or some sort of setup scam?

Hi Titch, imo it hasn't been ruled out. 

Wondering if the NE report of an American accomplice is true...

Hopefully if it is the FBI may have some leads on that.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 22, 2011, 07:57:32 PM
i have not given up! i spent the day in your room yesterday. i have packed up your photos and things that you cherish. your clothing is on the way to a shelter for "battered women". you would want that! your spirit LIVES...i BELIEVE, i have FAITH and there will be JUSTICE for you girl. don't listen to the EGO's. whatever happened will be discovered. i know you didn't snorkel in those shallow waters...i walked the sand you walked on in Aruba. God will bring the TRUTH. Lord hear OUR prayers! -CJ
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall


Ribbit

In Your Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWD8-yMKczI


Parable of the Lamp

Mark 4:21-23


Then Jesus asked them, “Would anyone light a lamp and then put it under a basket or under a bed? Of course not! A lamp is placed on a stand, where its light will shine.  For everything that is hidden will eventually be brought into the open, and every secret will be brought to light.  Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand.”


I should have read the next post before my last comment. Janet, you always have the exact perfect passage to quote. This is beautiful! Thanks for noting it.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Hi Titch

It has been a while.  I hope all is good.

Our neighbour serves in an RCMP detatchment in the next community.  A few years back his grown daughter gave him a desk plague citing The Parable of the Lamp.  It reminds him when he becomes discourage/impatient regarding the lack of progress with a case that God's timing may not always equate to our timing.

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 23, 2011, 02:37:10 AM
(http://blizz.serveraruba.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/d44a0913-baez-exd-01.jpg)

ARUBA SUN TIMES - Porky Pig has joined the crew of Get Gary off.
Friday, Aruba law enforcement said it enlisted Porky Pig to help them dig for
evidence so his client could go free and Aruba tourism would bounce back to a record high.
After a day in Aruba Porky Pig was seen leaving the Port on the Big Red Boat destination
Fruit of the Loom where he will be spending some time with his former client, Casey Anthony.

It's a lot of work, but I'm the Pig that can get the job done, says Baez.



brought to you by kermit-da-frog





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 23, 2011, 09:06:51 AM
This link will take you  to the Pictures that were taken at "Balashi Beach Bash" on to Facebook... their are a few of Robyn dancing

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on September 23, 2011, 09:44:25 AM
This link will take you  to the Pictures that were taken at "Balashi Beach Bash" on to Facebook... their are a few of Robyn dancing

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940



(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/robyn-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 23, 2011, 01:16:07 PM
(http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/250317_229129820461672_208457142528940_634375_4979122_n.jpg)
Robyn & Gary Girodano




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 24, 2011, 12:06:08 AM
(http://blizz.serveraruba.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/d44a0913-baez-exd-01.jpg)

ARUBA SUN TIMES - Porky Pig has joined the crew of Get Gary off.
Friday, Aruba law enforcement said it enlisted Porky Pig to help them dig for
evidence so his client could go free and Aruba tourism would bounce back to a record high.
After a day in Aruba Porky Pig was seen leaving the Port on the Big Red Boat destination
Fruit of the Loom where he will be spending some time with his former client, Casey Anthony.

It's a lot of work, but I'm the Pig that can get the job done, says Baez.



brought to you by kermit-da-frog




PPPPPP...Porky esq. should immediately use his network of image consultants to secure his client with a new toupe, that one is atrocious.  He's gross looking...why on earth would Robyn agree to go on a trip with him? Very very bad move.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 24, 2011, 01:55:38 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/20/article-2039616-0E006C7500000578-756_634x286.jpg)
Reconstruction: Actors play out Miss Gardner's final steps in an attempt to solve the crime

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/20/article-2039616-0E006C8900000578-559_634x286.jpg)
Running: The actor playing Mr Giordano sprints from the water to report her missing


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/19/article-2039153-0DFB871D00000578-359_634x558.jpg)
Robyn wearing the same dress when she disappeared.


July 31 – Robyn Gardner seen partying with Gary Giordano at MooMba Beach Bar in Aruba
August 1, 3.41pm – Gardner and Giordano spotted on CCTV outside Rum Reef Bar & Grill, on what police believe may have been a ‘test run’ before she went missing a day later
August 2, early morning – Giordano said to have read a text on Robyn’s phone, in which she wrote to her boyfriend back home: ‘ I love you. I care about you. We'll sort this out when I get back.'
August 2, late morning - Seen on surveillance camera at Marriott resort arguing, with Giordano allegedly grabbing her by the neck and shoving her into an elevator
August 2, 4.12pm – Pair last spotted leaving Rum Reef Bar & Grill at Baby Beach in Aruba. Witnesses said she appeared drunk, was fully made up and was not dressed to go snorkelling
August 2, 6pm – Giordano seen on CCTV, alone with no top on but his toupee is in place. He reports her missing, saying she disappeared while they were snorkelling
August 9 – Giordano held by police trying to leave the country
August 11 – FBI joins search for Miss Gardner
August 18 – it emerges Giordano tried to redeem a $1.5million accidental death insurance policy taken out a day before they went on vacation


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2039616/Robyn-Gardners-moments-suspect-Gary-Giordano-enacted-Aruba.html#ixzz1YtSurYBK
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2039616/Robyn-Gardners-moments-suspect-Gary-Giordano-enacted-Aruba.html#ixzz1YtSLeB2g






Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 24, 2011, 02:00:11 PM
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/1a/e8/1ae88cedc95082d12f65e99163e88de2.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 24, 2011, 02:12:45 PM
(http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/imagecache/350width/Gary-Giordano-Robyn-Gardner-Jose-Baez-aruba-Splash.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 24, 2011, 03:56:51 PM
(http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/250317_229129820461672_208457142528940_634375_4979122_n.jpg)
Robyn & Gary Girodano




www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01a.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01c.jpg)





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 24, 2011, 04:08:52 PM
 ::snipping2:: from some of the photos I've seen on FB

www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_03b.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_05.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_06a.jpg)
No Robyn that I can see...

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_07a.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_09.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_13.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_04.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 24, 2011, 04:25:18 PM
www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_MoombaBeach.jpg)



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 24, 2011, 04:33:03 PM
www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_25.jpg)

Sebastian van der Sloot

kinda looks like Kawish on the left, but I'm not sure


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 24, 2011, 10:24:53 PM
(http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/250317_229129820461672_208457142528940_634375_4979122_n.jpg)
Robyn & Gary Girodano




www.facebook.com

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01a.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01c.jpg)





Something that I think is interesting - when you look at the wider shot you see there is plenty of room for the guy in the green shirt & cowboy hat to move over a bit, but instead he is right in front of Robyn. I wonder if he knows Gary & Robyn or is there partying with them?????



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 24, 2011, 10:38:44 PM
I thought the same about the guy in green. 

He was a bit too up close and personal to have been a stranger imo.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 24, 2011, 10:39:42 PM
There was another shot with Gary talking to the taller guy with the black shirt on, doesn't mean anything...just sayin


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on September 24, 2011, 10:59:54 PM
Same dress again?  Seems odd..she seems like she would want to wear different outfits while on a vacation, a girlie girl thing ,and not  be seen in the same thing  everywhere she went..just sayin


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on September 24, 2011, 11:02:59 PM
In the photo where Robyn is dancing (?) with the guy in the green shirt, she looks a bit flirty with him..perhaps that is what set Gary off?  And was this t night? The night before she was supposed to have gone snorkeling? Or was it the same day?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 24, 2011, 11:28:30 PM
In the photo where Robyn is dancing (?) with the guy in the green shirt, she looks a bit flirty with him..perhaps that is what set Gary off?  And was this t night? The night before she was supposed to have gone snorkeling? Or was it the same day?


This was the night they arrived, July 31st.  She disappeared on August 2nd.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: mizjay on September 24, 2011, 11:58:22 PM
Same dress again?  Seems odd..she seems like she would want to wear different outfits while on a vacation, a girlie girl thing ,and not  be seen in the same thing  everywhere she went..just sayin


Teehee..Cookie, I thought the same thing last night when I was trolling through here!  Every picture almost, same dress..didn't want to pay 25 bucks foe a suitcase? (j/k)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 25, 2011, 04:47:42 AM
There was another shot with Gary talking to the taller guy with the black shirt on, doesn't mean anything...just sayin

That guy resembles valentijn.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 25, 2011, 04:48:08 AM
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/308789_143276602431698_100002480764886_240480_461146_n.jpg)
Robyn and her brother Andrew Colson

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/FabienneMassaen.jpg)
Fabienne Massaen - sure does look similar to Robyn.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 25, 2011, 01:53:36 PM
http://clickonaruba.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=846&page=1

Chill Beach Bash @ Moomba


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_MoombaChillBeachBash.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_MoombaChillBeachBash01.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_MoombaChillBeachBash02.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 25, 2011, 02:15:45 PM
I thought the same about the guy in green. 

He was a bit too up close and personal to have been a stranger imo.

Yes and notice how he's got his back turned away from the cameras and only facing Robyn whereas everyone else seems to be facing the camera which is most likely where the stage is. Wonder if the Aruba cops have found who that guy is and questioned him.

Why would a woman like Robyn, who right down to her french manicure is coiffed wear the same dress/bathing suit cover-up everyday? I don't understand that. I think I read that someone said it was her favorite dress, but still.......why not a shirt & shorts one day ya know. She looks wasted in that last photo. He looks so out of his element, the way he holds his hands up to dance is like a 50 year OLD man. They could be poster buddies for all the reasons not to have sex!!!  ::monkeydenied::




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cw618 on September 25, 2011, 05:47:47 PM
the guy in the straw hat dancing with robyn,full face kinda of in the back,mid way of center
i dont see robyn,only G and straw hat dude

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229129897128331&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229129897128331&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 25, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/32200_1423180106824_1452363513_1077786_5959511_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/298032_2223743320404_1452363513_2392859_7797509_n.jpg)
Robyn and Richard Forester.
She's wearing the same heart necklace that she wore in Aruba. Must have special meaning for her.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 25, 2011, 05:54:52 PM
the guy in the straw hat dancing with robyn,full face kinda of in the back,mid way of center
i dont see robyn,only G and straw hat dude

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229129897128331&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229129897128331&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_06a.jpg)
I wonder who he is????



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cw618 on September 25, 2011, 06:27:32 PM
straw hat dude,seems to be by his self
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229131527128168&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229131527128168&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

a few more i didnt see anymore in that album
robyn S hat
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229130057128315&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229130057128315&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

robyn and G, close to stage
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229131643794823&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229131643794823&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

robyn right hand corner
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229132007128120&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229132007128120&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

source
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cw618 on September 25, 2011, 06:29:53 PM
the guy in the straw hat dancing with robyn,full face kinda of in the back,mid way of center
i dont see robyn,only G and straw hat dude

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229129897128331&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229129897128331&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_06a.jpg)
I wonder who he is????



TY kermit,IDK but he seems to like robyn


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on September 25, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
Gary looks like a total doink!
Robyn did look wasted in that last photo to me also..


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 26, 2011, 01:16:12 PM
straw hat dude,seems to be by his self
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229131527128168&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229131527128168&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

a few more i didnt see anymore in that album
robyn S hat
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229130057128315&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229130057128315&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

robyn and G, close to stage
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229131643794823&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229131643794823&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

robyn right hand corner
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229132007128120&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940#!/photo.php?fbid=229132007128120&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

source
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940)


Thank u cw
that is interesting tracking him in those photos. Because it appears he was not with Robyn & Gary and then he is
right in front of her and Gary doesn't seem to notice or mind. I find that odd if he was a jealous type. Or is this guy
an accomplice and was checking out the goods????



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on September 26, 2011, 01:18:19 PM
Gary looks like a total doink!
Robyn did look wasted in that last photo to me also..

He looks like grandpa ya know who gets up when the kids start dancing. So embarrassing.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on September 26, 2011, 01:42:04 PM
Gary looks like a total doink!
Robyn did look wasted in that last photo to me also..

He looks like grandpa ya know who gets up when the kids start dancing. So embarrassing.



lol.. perfect description !


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on September 26, 2011, 03:44:29 PM
There was another shot with Gary talking to the taller guy with the black shirt on, doesn't mean anything...just sayin

That guy resembles valentijn.


Holy chit Kerm! You're so right on my friend! Texasmom, check it out...

Here's the pic of black shirt dude taken from the last page:
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01a.jpg)

Here's a pic of Valentign Vandersloot taken from this link:
http://www2.emerson.edu/egn/community/undergraduate/Valentijn-Van-Der-Sloot.cfm
(http://www2.emerson.edu/egn/community/undergraduate/images/Valentijn_Profile.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 26, 2011, 05:17:39 PM
There was another shot with Gary talking to the taller guy with the black shirt on, doesn't mean anything...just sayin

That guy resembles valentijn.


Holy chit Kerm! You're so right on my friend! Texasmom, check it out...

Here's the pic of black shirt dude taken from the last page:
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01a.jpg)

Here's a pic of Valentign Vandersloot taken from this link:
http://www2.emerson.edu/egn/community/undergraduate/Valentijn-Van-Der-Sloot.cfm
(http://www2.emerson.edu/egn/community/undergraduate/images/Valentijn_Profile.jpg)

Look closely at the green shirt guy...doesn't it look like his hand is getting ready to grab Robyn's boob or he just did and his hand is backing off..I can't tell but it looks to me like his hand is on her hair on her chest.....wth?


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Post by: Blonde on September 26, 2011, 05:41:36 PM
Yes it does. I have to say she looks like she is enjoying this party.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on September 26, 2011, 06:15:50 PM
Gypsy, it def does look like that but if you blow it up a lil bit more you can see the rim of a glass under his hand.

Blonde, I agree, she sho nuff does look like she's enjoying herself.

I'm personally just not a fan of any of 'em, including Forester whom seems to keep Kleenex with their outrageous prices in business. I'm still wondering if they're ALL part of some kind of organized crime syndicate. I mean think about it, who the hell goes to a tropical island & wears the same dress everyday they're there. Either she packed super light & got a room near the laundry or the chick wanted to be noticed. I sure hope nothing bad happened to her but none of this sits well with any of us that have been following Robyn's disappearance since the beginning. One thing I absolutely can't stand is how the media has made comparisons to Natalee. Puhlease, she ain't no Natalee by a long shot. Still, nobody, no matter good or bad, deserves to become a victim of crime. I'm kinda stick on how I feel...


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Post by: Titch on September 26, 2011, 06:20:24 PM
Self edit... Stuck not Stick.

I mean, I feel bad for her but when I hear Forester speak I change my mind & wonder of he's part of it all.

One more thing, if Giordano is behind on child support, how could he board a plane? You're not allowed out of the country if you owe child support I thought. Maybe that's actually why Forester hasn't gone to Aruba to search...bc isn't he behind in support, too? Maybe Giordano is all caught up now? Otherwise wouldn't his ex with the boys be throwing him under the bus?


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Post by: Gypsy DD on September 26, 2011, 06:34:26 PM
http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/before-aruba-case,-gary-giordano-was-busted-in-organized-retail-theft-operation

Aruba suspect Gary Giordano ran theft operation in Maryland in 2003

Posted: 4:24 PM

By: Joce Sterman

GERMANTOWN, Md. - Before Gary Giordano was at the center of the case involving the disappearance of Frederick’s Robyn Gardner in Aruba, he was the center of an organized retail theft operation in Montgomery County.  ABC2 News spoke exlusively with the detective behind the case.

Montgomery County Detective David Hill doesn't hang onto the files from every case he's handled. But for some reason he kept this one. [You held onto Gary Giordano’s file?] “I did. I did.”

 ::snipping2::

Giordano was the same guy he tracked eight years ago as part of an organized retail theft operation carried out in Montgomery and Frederick Counties. Hill says Giordano would boldly load his cart at Target stores in the area and roll right out the front door, sometimes returning to do it all again the same day.

Giordano's brush with the law in Montgomery County began back in 2003 began at a Target in Germantown, when he was busted shoplifting electronics on the surveillance cameras. Cops say he later sold the stolen gaming systems and DVD players on the internet.

Hill clearly remembers interviewing Giordano for the case, "He was an easy going guy. He wasn't a jerk. He would talk to us but he seemed like he was a step ahead of us. He didn't want to give us any information."

 ::snipping2::


Read more: http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/before-aruba-case,-gary-giordano-was-busted-in-organized-retail-theft-operation#ixzz1YjAg4OLZ

Interesting..I read the article..he got two suspended sentences..he was lucky that time.

I retail theft ring hmmm..could that have now gone on to be his employment agancy or whatever it is he runs as a front for other nefarious enterprises..like prn, and then that got into trafficing women.  I just don't think he would harm Robyn ..as in kill her..the article says he didn't like confrontation..but he might not be adverse to selling her and letting someone take over the dirty work.  I wonder how many times he has been in Aruba..and if he made some connections with the human trafficing of pretty women there..or if he was trying to shoot a porn movie and something just went way wrong..like he overdosed his star performer..


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Post by: texasmom on September 26, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
There was another shot with Gary talking to the taller guy with the black shirt on, doesn't mean anything...just sayin

That guy resembles valentijn.


Holy chit Kerm! You're so right on my friend! Texasmom, check it out...

Here's the pic of black shirt dude taken from the last page:
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01a.jpg)

Here's a pic of Valentign Vandersloot taken from this link:
http://www2.emerson.edu/egn/community/undergraduate/Valentijn-Van-Der-Sloot.cfm
(http://www2.emerson.edu/egn/community/undergraduate/images/Valentijn_Profile.jpg)

He does kinda favor him, but it's not Valentijn imo.



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Post by: cookie on September 26, 2011, 07:13:19 PM
I am not a fan of that Forester guy either...


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Post by: Helen Back on September 29, 2011, 11:21:24 PM
Wow......can't believe there has been no news on Robyn or the "Investigation".

Thanks for all the pictures, everyone. 

So let me get this straight.  Robyn wore her long dress on the July 31, 1st day on the island.

Then we have pics of her at Rum Reef on August 1 and August 2, in the same dress?

Was her luggage lost in transit?  Were Robyn's belongings recovered at the hotel?

Doesn't make sense to me.

 ::MonkeyBike::





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Post by: texasmom on September 30, 2011, 12:37:08 AM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/robyn-gardner-boyfriend-richard-forester-hopes-alive-aruba

Robyn Gardner's Boyfriend Refuses to Give Up Hope That She'll Be Found Alive
 
Posted on Sep 29, 2011 @ 07:30PM 

By Radar Staff

It has been almost two months since Robyn Gardner was last seen in Aruba and despite authorities believing that she is dead, her boyfriend is still hopeful that she will be found alive and well, RadarOnline.com can exclusively report.

 ::snipping2::

While no body has yet been found, authorities say Robyn Gardner is presumed dead.

However, Forester, who thought that Robyn was on a family vacation during the time of her disappearance, is so convinced that his girlfriend is still alive that he has been painstakingly contacting locals in Aruba and the surrounding Caribbean islands in a desperate personal search.

"I’ve made a lot of contacts through social media on Facebook and Twitter, and have made 'Missing Person' posters and sent them to thousands of people," Richard told RadarOnline.com.

 ::snipping2::

As for Giordano, Forester's opinion is that the 50-year-old businessman didn't act alone.

"I think there is someone else involved, I don’t think Gary is smart enough to do it by himself or had enough time," he told RadarOnline.com. "I think there is a strong possibility that he was working with an accomplice.

"Maybe she was removed from the island. Anything could have happened...there has been NO trace of her found," he said hopefully.

He went on to emphasize that his gut instinct is not based on fact or evidence from the police, but is his personal suspicion after it was suggested in the media that there was someone at the restaurant with Robyn and Gary on the day she vanished.

"This has never been confirmed with the authorities. I am not a private investigator – I am a boyfriend with a broken heart who is trying to find her," he added.

"I don’t know what happened, I don't know if Gary killed her – I don’t want an innocent man prosecuted if he didn’t do it but I think he’s involved somehow.

"He’s got until the end of the month, if he gets out of there (Aruba), I am hoping the FBI here has something on him...if he comes back I hope there are federal agents there to meet him at the airport."


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Post by: texasmom on September 30, 2011, 12:40:40 AM
If Robyn by some miracle is alive and eventually comes home...I hope she can make a fresh start...not with Richard.

JMO


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on September 30, 2011, 01:20:02 AM
Wow......can't believe there has been no news on Robyn or the "Investigation".

Thanks for all the pictures, everyone. 

So let me get this straight.  Robyn wore her long dress on the July 31, 1st day on the island.

Then we have pics of her at Rum Reef on August 1 and August 2, in the same dress?

Was her luggage lost in transit?  Were Robyn's belongings recovered at the hotel?

Doesn't make sense to me.

 ::MonkeyBike::


Hi Helen Back!   ::HelloKitty::

I'm still confused about the dress too.  It doesn't make sense to me that she would wear the same thing every day if she had other clothes with her.

At one point the reports said the last thing she was wearing was a swim suit, and there was the report about the dress laying on the beach by the towels.  If she had a swim suit surely she had some other clothes?  (Not that I believe she ever went swimming.)

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Resigned at RU pointed out that she had similar dresses like the one we've seen her in while in Aruba.  One of the older pictures of her looks like the same dress but it has different colors and design.  I hadn't noticed that before.





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Post by: Kermit on September 30, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_MoombaChillBeachBash02.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/07312011_01a.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/09132011_07.jpg)


I'm no expert, but it looks to be the same dress, watch & leather wrist thing to me


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 30, 2011, 01:12:36 PM


Video.  Towels and dress seen by witness?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/aruba-mystery-judge-suspect-custody-14426695?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=14426693

Aruba Mystery: Judge Keeps Suspect in Custody Gary Giordano will remain in Aruban police custody for an additional 60 days.
02:31 | 09/01/2011


BUMPED


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 30, 2011, 01:19:06 PM
Thanks, guys.  I just think it's very odd that the only pics we have of Robyn are all in the same dress.

Anyone know in which hotel she and Gary stayed?  I'll look back, but don't remember seeing the name. 

Something's not quite right about these photos. 

 :smt102


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on September 30, 2011, 01:34:58 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032199/Robyn-Gardner-Gary-Giordano-major-fight-Aruba-met-Adult-Friend-Finder.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

CCTV shows 'major fight between Robyn Gardner and Aruba murder suspect Gary Giordano' as friend claims the pair met on swingers sex site

Surveillance footage said to show pair having violent fight in hotel
Suspect reportedly can be heard screaming: 'I'll kill you!'
 ::snipping2::

By PAUL BENTLEY
Last updated at 5:15 PM on 31st August 2011

Shocking CCTV footage shows missing American tourist Robyn Gardner having a violent fight with her travel companion hours before her disappearance in Aruba, it was claimed today.

Prime murder suspect Gary Giordano, who friends said she met on a swingers sex site, is alleged to have threatened to kill her while grabbing her by the neck and shoving her into an elevator on August 2 - the last day Miss Gardner, 35, was seen alive.

Mr Giordano, a 50-year-old businessman from Maryland, travelled to Aruba with Miss Gardner on July 31 and reported her missing two days later, saying she disappeared while they were snorkelling. He has not been charged but is being questioned in jail after witnesses claimed he was sweating profusely on that day, with blood next to him on the beach and a large scratch mark on his throat.

 ::snipping2::

The videotape from the Marriott Resort in Aruba allegedly shows the two having a furious and violent fight on the day she went missing.

A source close to the investigation told the National Enquirer: 'They were having a major fight. Robyn was waving her arms and shouting at Giordano. He was grabbing her arms and jerking her around and shouting back at her.

 ::snipping2::

'Then Giordano apparently realised their argument was heating up in public where someone might overhear them. He violently grabbed the back of Robyn's neck with one hand and shoved her back into the elevator with the other hand.'

As Mr Giordano faces a court hearing today to determine whether he can be held without charge in jail for another 60 days of questioning, police in Aruba believe the CCTV footage is what they need to keep him detained.

'Aruban authorities believe those few, crucial seconds of video tape will give them what they need to put Gary Giordano in prison for life,' the source added.

The tapes are now said to have been sent to the FBI and to surveillance experts in Holland for further analysis.

The source said lip-readers believe Robyn was shouting at Mr Giordano: 'I'm out of here. I'm leaving. I'm not spending another minute with you,' while he yelled back: 'Get back here! I'll kill you!'

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032199/Robyn-Gardner-Gary-Giordano-major-fight-Aruba-met-Adult-Friend-Finder.html#ixzz1WdQIPIqb


Apparently, they stayed at the Marriott.  There supposedly is video footage of Giordano and Roby having an argument near an elevator. 

I would like to see that snip of video.  Wonder if she is wearing the dress?

Wonder if the Marriott has any pics of Robyn in anything other than the dress?





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Post by: Jerseygirl345 on October 02, 2011, 11:53:37 AM
Robyn Gardner's Final Hours in Aruba Captured on Surveillance Tape
By Tim Nudd
Monday September 12, 2011 01:40 PM EDT
Article and video..  Timeline.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20527405,00.html?xid=rss-fullcontentcnn


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 02, 2011, 03:24:40 PM
http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/the-mystifying-twists-turns-in-the-search-for-robyn-gardner/

The Mystifying Twists & Turns In The Search For Robyn Gardner
Posted on October 2, 2011 by Psychic Carla Baron

 ::snipping2::

Recently, there have been many who have contacted me regarding missing Maryland resident, Robyn Gardner. Robyn was last seen Aug. 2nd during a short getaway to the isle of Aruba with traveling companion, Gary Giordano.

Today will be 2 months exactly marking her disappearance.

 ::snipping2::

Monday, September 5, 2011 4:44 AM PDT

“Hello Carla. My name is Christina Jones. I am Robyns roommate. I know that Richard is driving you MAD. I totally get it. I have my own opinion about him but that is neither here nor there…I am just trying very hard to bring justice on robyns behalf. I am now in Aruba with Kelly (Robyns Cousin)…I am here to try and find her.

I know that you are gifted and if you would communicate with me regarding any “vision” you have I would greatly appreciate it. I appreciate any time that you give and please don’t tell Richard that I am here. Sooner than later he will figure it out but I just don’t understand why IF he loves her so much…why didn’t he come here himself? He is a very controlling person and I am sorry you have had to learn that for yourself.

Anyways…my email is attached. I do have a phone in Aruba if you would rather talk.

Again, TY for your time!”


 ::snipping2::

We had a short chat via Skype to set a time for the 1st session later that night when she got back to her hotel. During the call, Christina made a few statements regarding Richard Forester, and what she believed happened between him and Robyn a couple months prior.
 
 
One statement, in particular, was in revealing that Robyn Gardner had broken her arm a few months before her trip to Aruba with Gary Giordano. And Christina felt very strongly due to Robyn’s behavior, and the events leading up, that Richard Forester was the one responsible for breaking Robyn’s arm. Christina said she even asked Richard about this event – suggesting he was involved. She said that he, of course, denied it at the time. Robyn said “she fell.”

However, Christina was CONVINCED that Richard Forester was the one responsible.

 ::snipping2::

This wasn’t the only time I would hear of this event with Robyn’s broken arm, and the attributing of this physical abuse to her boyfriend at the time – Richard Forester.

There were several emails from those close to Robyn Gardner who virtually reiterated the same words – unsolicited by me in any way. They just felt they should write me with this, as they did not feel comfortable going anywhere else with their feelings, I suppose,
or sharing any knowledge of the situation they were harboring in secret.

 ::snipping2::

A last text received by Christina Jones from Robyn Gardner in Aruba revealed she was BREAKING UP w/ Richard Forester upon her return.
 
(I heard this directly from Christina Jones in our preliminary Skype call the afternoon of Sept.5th)

 ::snipping2::

Forward to September 10th …

I received several emails from Robyn’s ex-boyfriend of 2.5 yrs.
(Not Richard Forester.)

 
 
This was the initial contact email from the “ex”  –

[Name withheld to protect privacy.]
 
_______________________________

Saturday, September 10, 2011 9:28 AM PDT

“I was the last person she spoke to on the phone the day she went missing at 1:20 pm that day. Last thing she said to me was I love you – you are my world.”

“I also saw her the Thursday before she left.”

…“only want to see if there is anything I can help you with.”

“She lived with me all of last year and I still have most of her things here as she never could bring herself to move out.”


_______________________________

The “ex” and I have kept in contact often these past few weeks. We decided to wait on the “psychic” assist for now as he is working in harmony with Robyn Gardner’s family, and their utmost wishes in regards to the search/ investigation.

As I said …

Many mystifying twists & turns.

Maybe more so than any other case I have been involved, except for perhaps …
 
 
Natalee Holloway.
 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 03, 2011, 12:12:27 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-aruba-murder-eyewitness-shocking-claim

EXCLUSIVE! ARUBA MURDER EYEWITNESS SHOCKING CLAIM

Published on: October 3, 2011

by JOHN BLOSSER, NATIONAL ENQUIRER
Photography by: doc+furious_graphix

In a sensational breakthrough in the disappearance of ROBYN GARDNER, Aruba police  have two witnesses who saw a vio­lent attack on a woman who looked like the Maryland beauty, which they believe ended in her death.

“The cops believe a local couple actually witnessed the beginning of what turned out to be Robyn’s murder,” a source close to the in­vestigation told The ENQUIRER.

An Aruban couple, out for a drive, told authorities they spotted a violent confrontation between a man and a woman inside a car similar to the one Gary Giordano – suspected of killing Robyn – was renting during their Caribbean vacation.

 ::snipping2::

The badly shaken couple finally came forward Sept. 17 to tell their chilling story to police, according to an insider.

“Just before 5 p.m. on Aug. 2, the couple saw a white Toyota RAV4 just like the car Giordano rented parked in the eerie Dog Graves Beach pet cemetery,” the insider told The ENQUIRER.

“They noticed it because vehicles are not allowed to park in that area, where Arubans have been burying their pets for generations. In fact, the car was parked on some of the pet graves.


“As the couple drove along the road, they saw the man beating the woman in the face. He was slapping her really hard, then punching her with his fist and beating her on the head. She was screaming.

“The couple stopped their car, yelled at the man and asked what the hell he was doing. When the man saw them, he started his vehicle and drove off in the opposite direc­tion. The shocked couple drove on to nearby Baby Beach.

 ::snipping2::

Dog Graves Beach now has become the focus of an intensive search, noted the other source.

Police brought Giordano from his prison cell to the area for in­tensive questioning twice – and they are planning to bring in cadaver dogs, hoping to locate Robyn’s body.

“They believe Giordano may have dug into a recent dog’s grave, stuffed Robyn’s body inside and covered it up again,” the source revealed. “However, Giordano has refused to fully cooperate with police.”

Dog Graves Beach looks like a spooky set for a horror movie.

At least 1,000 pets are buried in the large cemetery by the ocean. They rest beneath faded stuffed animals and crude wooden crosses bearing their names.

“There is a stench of death about the place, but cops believe cadaver dogs will be able to tell the difference between a dead pet’s body and a human corpse,” explained the source.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on October 03, 2011, 01:05:44 PM
Picture from webshots of pet cemetery.

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1288906601044968257RQtmFa


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 03, 2011, 01:24:35 PM
That photo looked too difficult to dig a grave, so I found these and it's the same area, but shows one could easily
dig a grave in the sand which is probably shallow for an animal.



(http://home.comcast.net/~jrread/aruba/aua06.jpg)

Baby Beach", near Colorado Point Lighthouse, is popular with families.


Halfway between them is a forlorn, wind-swept pet cemetery.

(http://home.comcast.net/~jrread/aruba/aua05.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 03, 2011, 01:28:11 PM
http://wikimapia.org/4227754/Aruba-Pet-Cemetery

Aruba Pet Cemetery. Originally begun by residents of the old Lago colony and still used today.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 03, 2011, 01:28:32 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-aruba-murder-eyewitness-shocking-claim

EXCLUSIVE! ARUBA MURDER EYEWITNESS SHOCKING CLAIM

Published on: October 3, 2011

by JOHN BLOSSER, NATIONAL ENQUIRER
Photography by: doc+furious_graphix

In a sensational breakthrough in the disappearance of ROBYN GARDNER, Aruba police  have two witnesses who saw a vio­lent attack on a woman who looked like the Maryland beauty, which they believe ended in her death.

“The cops believe a local couple actually witnessed the beginning of what turned out to be Robyn’s murder,” a source close to the in­vestigation told The ENQUIRER.

An Aruban couple, out for a drive, told authorities they spotted a violent confrontation between a man and a woman inside a car similar to the one Gary Giordano – suspected of killing Robyn – was renting during their Caribbean vacation.

 ::snipping2::

The badly shaken couple finally came forward Sept. 17 to tell their chilling story to police, according to an insider.

“Just before 5 p.m. on Aug. 2, the couple saw a white Toyota RAV4 just like the car Giordano rented parked in the eerie Dog Graves Beach pet cemetery,” the insider told The ENQUIRER.

“They noticed it because vehicles are not allowed to park in that area, where Arubans have been burying their pets for generations. In fact, the car was parked on some of the pet graves.


“As the couple drove along the road, they saw the man beating the woman in the face. He was slapping her really hard, then punching her with his fist and beating her on the head. She was screaming.

“The couple stopped their car, yelled at the man and asked what the hell he was doing. When the man saw them, he started his vehicle and drove off in the opposite direc­tion. The shocked couple drove on to nearby Baby Beach.

 ::snipping2::

Dog Graves Beach now has become the focus of an intensive search, noted the other source.

Police brought Giordano from his prison cell to the area for in­tensive questioning twice – and they are planning to bring in cadaver dogs, hoping to locate Robyn’s body.

“They believe Giordano may have dug into a recent dog’s grave, stuffed Robyn’s body inside and covered it up again,” the source revealed. “However, Giordano has refused to fully cooperate with police.”

Dog Graves Beach looks like a spooky set for a horror movie.

At least 1,000 pets are buried in the large cemetery by the ocean. They rest beneath faded stuffed animals and crude wooden crosses bearing their names.

“There is a stench of death about the place, but cops believe cadaver dogs will be able to tell the difference between a dead pet’s body and a human corpse,” explained the source.

 ::snipping2::

Yeah I read the posts by the psychic to Richard Forester one day which she was miffed at him.


I'm wondering if Robyn packed so fast for Aruba that is why she is seen wearing the same dress for days in a row.
It would make more sense if she just grabbed a few things and took off for some reason.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 03, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
http://wikimapia.org/4227754/Aruba-Pet-Cemetery

Aruba Pet Cemetery. Originally begun by residents of the old Lago colony and still used today.

Thank you grace. That spot is near the Colorado Lighthouse which I believe is the lighthouse in the Aru-bay videos.
It has that distinctive tower in it.

After all these years, what ifffffff Natalee is found too.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 03, 2011, 01:36:13 PM
http://wikimapia.org/4227754/Aruba-Pet-Cemetery

Aruba Pet Cemetery. Originally begun by residents of the old Lago colony and still used today.

Thank you grace. That spot is near the Colorado Lighthouse which I believe is the lighthouse in the Aru-bay videos.
It has that distinctive tower in it.

After all these years, what ifffffff Natalee is found too.


bbm

That would be great.  They have had so many opportunities to "find" Natalee; I hope it is soon.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on October 03, 2011, 04:35:46 PM
Well, if she was beat so bad, in the car, that it killed her, you'd think there would have been forensics/blood.

That couple would have come forward a long time ago.  Maybe they were paid to "save" the island.

 Either there was no evidence in the car or there was no search for evidence .  They always shoot themselves in the foot.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 03, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
Well, if she was beat so bad, in the car, that it killed her, you'd think there would have been forensics/blood.

That couple would have come forward a long time ago.  Maybe they were paid to "save" the island.

 Either there was no evidence in the car or there was no search for evidence .  They always shoot themselves in the foot.   ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 03, 2011, 05:46:05 PM
http://wikimapia.org/4227754/Aruba-Pet-Cemetery

Aruba Pet Cemetery. Originally begun by residents of the old Lago colony and still used today.

Thank you grace. That spot is near the Colorado Lighthouse which I believe is the lighthouse in the Aru-bay videos.
It has that distinctive tower in it.

After all these years, what ifffffff Natalee is found too.



It is my belief the Natalee's remain will not be found.  I speculate that unknown to Joran ... Paulus had Natalee's body removed from a shallow grave near the lighthouse and placed in a trap and taken out to sea and ... on January 7, 2008 her remains were recovered from that trap by Aruban divers unchallenged by the Persistence' project lead.

Janet

+++++

Arashi Beach

Teen's disappearance a criminal case
Aruba police say three men are 'people of interest'
Sunday, June 5, 2005 Posted: 7:54 AM EDT (1154 GMT)

 
Authorities have said they talked to the three men who left with her, and the men claim they took Holloway to Arashi Beach before dropping her off at her hotel at about 2 a.m.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/06/04/missing.teen/


The June 10th Confession

ORANJESTAD, Aruba, June 12, 2005
Aruba Case Appears Stalled


Holloway's family rushed late Friday to an old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach after Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that one of three young men in custody admitted that "something bad happened" to Holloway and was leading police to the scene of the alleged crime.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/10/national/main700829.shtml


Trap Recovery

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words


Kyle Kingman: The brother thought they were coordinates, but it was just a latitude. Oddly, the latitude was within a half mile from where we found the trap and centered on Arashi beach.

Kyle Kingman:  The detective's brother gave what he thought were coordinates, but turned out to be a line of latitude. This latitude aligned with Arashi beach and came within a half mile of the fish trap.

Kyle Kingman: The Persistence had no divers on the 7th. Tim Trahan was our diver on the 30th-Dec, but he was out of the country at the time. The Aruban divers were on the police boat, dove from their boat, and returned to their boat.

Kyle Kingman:  I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap.

Kyle Kingman:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.

Kermit - Scared Monkeys


Paulus van der Sloot

Monkeys Media Reminder … Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio
February 13th, 2008


Beth Holloway:

51:40 - I do believe his (Joran) father played a major role in Natalee's disappearance.

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/

su.t.

 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on October 03, 2011, 05:58:09 PM
Well, if she was beat so bad, in the car, that it killed her, you'd think there would have been forensics/blood.

That couple would have come forward a long time ago.  Maybe they were paid to "save" the island.

 Either there was no evidence in the car or there was no search for evidence .  They always shoot themselves in the foot.   ::MonkeyConfused::
Maybe they were afraid


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on October 03, 2011, 06:13:55 PM
Well, if she was beat so bad, in the car, that it killed her, you'd think there would have been forensics/blood.

That couple would have come forward a long time ago.  Maybe they were paid to "save" the island.

 Either there was no evidence in the car or there was no search for evidence .  They always shoot themselves in the foot.   ::MonkeyConfused::
Maybe they were afraid

He was locked up and it had been major news with all the "searches".  What would they have been afraid of? The powers that be would have awarded them.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on October 03, 2011, 06:16:38 PM
Afraid of Aruba and disappearing too  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 03, 2011, 08:20:51 PM
Afraid of Aruba and disappearing too  ::MonkeyEek::

Blonde I think more then likely they are a set up by the Aruban's to make it look like they have something..when they have nothing at this point.  The car would have been bloody inside if she was beaten to death..and it was a rental...so the rental company would know that and have stated that long ago.  I think this story is for the press to make it look like they are on top of things..when in actuality they are not.  They are no better at handling murder today then they were when Natalie disappeared..then of course Paulus could pull strings to shut people up..but in this case I think they know it would bode better with the public and vacationer's if they solved the crime..so we shall see what evidence they show or don't show.

Personally I doubt her body will be found in the Pet Cemetary in a newly dug grave..they would have noticed that right away..and I don't think you need a court injunction to dig up a pet cemetary..they just would have done that weeks ago...it all makes no sense ...as usual per Aruba.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 02:28:18 PM
http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/e47437ad9b1d4d1185c9f1c10a5f32fd/CB--Aruba-Missing-American/


Teams of cadaver dogs to search in Aruba for remains of missing US tourist

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS   
First Posted: October 04, 2011 - 10:43 am
Last Updated: October 04, 2011 - 10:43 am
 

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — A team of cadaver dogs has arrived in Aruba to search for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing two months ago by her travel companion.

Solicitor General Taco Stein tells The Associated Press that the dogs arrived from the Netherlands last weekend and will begin searching soon for the body of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. He says the search will focus on a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 02:31:49 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/04/disappeared-aruba-woman-robyn-gardner_n_994209.html

Search For Disappeared Aruba Woman, Robyn Gardner: Dogs Arrive To Look For Remains

10/ 4/11 10:43 AM ET

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- A team of cadaver dogs has arrived in Aruba to search for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing two months ago by her travel companion.

Solicitor General Taco Stein tells The Associated Press that the dogs arrived from the Netherlands last weekend and will begin searching soon for the body of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. He says the search will focus on a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 02:32:23 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::

It's about time!   ::MonkeySlide::

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on October 04, 2011, 02:32:54 PM
Do we know what area their searching?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 02:33:04 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/04/disappeared-aruba-woman-robyn-gardner_n_994209.html

Search For Disappeared Aruba Woman, Robyn Gardner: Dogs Arrive To Look For Remains

10/ 4/11 10:43 AM ET

ORANJESTAD, Aruba -- A team of cadaver dogs has arrived in Aruba to search for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing two months ago by her travel companion.

Solicitor General Taco Stein tells The Associated Press that the dogs arrived from the Netherlands last weekend and will begin searching soon for the body of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. He says the search will focus on a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 02:37:56 PM
Do we know what area their searching?

http://wikimapia.org/4256584/Seroe-Colorado

http://wikimapia.org/4227754/Aruba-Pet-Cemetery

I've said many times, I'm not a map person...but I think these are probably in the same area?



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 02:41:21 PM
Well...kinda sorta close to each other anyway!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 02:45:40 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/world/americas/aruba-missing-woman/

Aruban authorities search for missing woman

By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 2:06 PM EST, Tue October 4, 2011
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Aruban authorities use dogs to search for missing woman, Robyn Gardner
Police continue to hold suspect Gary Giordano in connection with the case

(CNN) -- Aruban authorities used search dogs Tuesday to comb the area near where a Maryland woman went missing in August, officials in the prosecutor's office said.

Investigators chose the area near Baby Beach based on information gathered after a reenactment of the events leading up to Robyn Gardner's disappearance on August 2.


The reenactment gave investigators reason to believe that Gary Giordano, the man Gardner came to Aruba with, was not telling the truth about how Gardner disappeared, said Chief Prosecutor Taco Stein. He didn't elaborate.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 04, 2011, 04:25:09 PM
Do we know what area their searching?

http://wikimapia.org/4256584/Seroe-Colorado

http://wikimapia.org/4227754/Aruba-Pet-Cemetery

I've said many times, I'm not a map person...but I think these are probably in the same area?



Same end of the island and also in the vicinity of the bar they were at and where he claimed they were snorkeling.  The red area is the pet cemetary.  So if you believe the "witness" they drove north/west from the pet cemetery towards baby beach.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/6212280074_04862d6eef_o.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 04, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
Dogs to Search for U.S. Woman Missing in Aruba
Published October 04, 2011


<snipped>

ORANJESTAD, Aruba –  A team of cadaver dogs has arrived in Aruba to search for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing two months ago by her travel companion.

Solicitor General Taco Stein tells The Associated Press that the dogs arrived from the Netherlands last weekend and will begin searching soon for the body of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. He says the search will focus on a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/04/dogs-to-search-for-us-woman-missing-in-aruba/


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 04, 2011, 04:46:10 PM
Dogs to Search for U.S. Woman Missing in Aruba
Published October 04, 2011


<snipped>

ORANJESTAD, Aruba –  A team of cadaver dogs has arrived in Aruba to search for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing two months ago by her travel companion.

Solicitor General Taco Stein tells The Associated Press that the dogs arrived from the Netherlands last weekend and will begin searching soon for the body of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. He says the search will focus on a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/04/dogs-to-search-for-us-woman-missing-in-aruba/


1 1/2 months later after declining FBI assistance ... Aruba brings their dogs to the the location of the alleged drown.  Crazy!!

Janet


Explicit pictures’ of Gardner on Giordano’s camera       
Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:14


<snipped>
 
He (Solicitor General Taco Stein) does confirm one person from the FBI, who is normally stationed in Barbados, is on the island. According to the OM, he coordinates the legal aid requests from Aruba to the United States. Stein does not expect more FIB-officers will come to the island. He states there are sufficient ‘extremely capable people’ in the Kingdom who can assist with the investigation. For example, he names a team with tracking dogs from the KLPD (Corps National Police Services) in The Netherlands that is ‘worldwide renown’ and on request could be deployed in tracing the body.

<snipped>

http://www.amigoe.com/english/81172-explicit-pictures-of-gardner-on-giordanos-camera



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 04, 2011, 04:49:57 PM
Never Passed the Ball

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 184: Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute


No Invitation Extended

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words


Kyle Kingman:  The Arubans told us there wasn't anything of interest in the trap based on the visual-only inspection (Dateline and Tim Miller present).
 
Kyle Kingman:  John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word

Kyle Kingman:  Aruban divers deemed the cage to be not case related, and therefore Aruba had no interest in it.  At that point, I made the statement to all on board that we do have an interest and that we would recover the cage ourselves.  That is when Mos said they would dive on it but it would take 1 -2 weeks for a forensics team to arrive and that he would let Persistence know.

Kyle Kingman:  The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.

Kermit/jen3560 - Scared Monkeys


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 06:17:51 PM
http://www.newsday.com/news/dogs-search-for-us-woman-missing-in-aruba-1.3221277

Dogs search for US woman missing in Aruba

Originally published: October 4, 2011 10:51 AM
Updated: October 4, 2011 5:14 PM
By The Associated Press 
QUICK READ

Cadaver dogs in Aruba come up empty on 1st day of search for remains of missing US tourist

(AP) -- A team of cadaver dogs searched through cactus and scrub brush Tuesday for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba.

The dogs and their handlers, from a private foundation in the Netherlands that regularly assists police, worked for several hours before ending their efforts for the day without any apparent success.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 06:22:23 PM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_ARUBA_MISSING_AMERICAN?SITE=ALOPE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Dogs search for US woman missing in Aruba


ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) -- A team of cadaver dogs searched through cactus and scrub brush Tuesday for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba.

The dogs and their handlers, from a private foundation in the Netherlands that regularly assists police, worked for several hours before ending their efforts for the day without any apparent success. Solicitor General Taco Stein said they would be in the Dutch Caribbean island through the end of the week.

They planned to focus their search in a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado, not far from where 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Maryland, was reported missing on Aug. 2 by Gary Giordano, her travel companion.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 06:57:34 PM
I haven't seen one posting about the cadaver dogs on any of the Aruban news sites yet.

Odd, imo.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on October 04, 2011, 07:23:46 PM
Hi everyone,

Well this is veeeeery good news.  Ridiculous that it took this long, but I'm glad the dogs are on the job! 

 ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2:: ::MonkeyDogWalk:: ::MonkeyDogWalk2:: ::MonkeyDogWalk::

 ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Sharon/Tx on October 04, 2011, 08:04:01 PM
“The cops believe a local couple actually witnessed the beginning of what turned out to be Robyn’s murder,” a source close to the in­vestigation told The ENQUIRER.

 ::snipping2::

Whatever happened to honesty and integrity?  I'm sorry, even if I were scared, I would have called 911 or followed the car far behind because if anything happened, I would feel just as guilty as the vermin pounding her.  It seems everyone in Aruba fears the "Powers that Be."


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Sharon/Tx on October 04, 2011, 08:04:59 PM
I haven't seen one posting about the cadaver dogs on any of the Aruban news sites yet.

Odd, imo.


  I haven't either.  I totally agree.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on October 04, 2011, 08:14:59 PM
Well, of course the dog search has to be kept super duper quiet (no media).

Can you imagine the number of hits those dogs will get?  I bet there are hidden "suicides" all over the place.

Did they bring in Dutch dogs for Tromp?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 04, 2011, 08:25:21 PM
“The cops believe a local couple actually witnessed the beginning of what turned out to be Robyn’s murder,” a source close to the in­vestigation told The ENQUIRER.

 ::snipping2::

Whatever happened to honesty and integrity?  I'm sorry, even if I were scared, I would have called 911 or followed the car far behind because if anything happened, I would feel just as guilty as the vermin pounding her.  It seems everyone in Aruba fears the "Powers that Be."



The Threat

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 197:
There is apparently no amount of money in the world that can get us the answer to what happened to Natalee. When I asked an Aruban attorney about this, his response was chilling: “The threat is bigger than the money,” he says. The Threat. That dark influence. The evil that nothing and no one can pierce.


The Fear

Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway

Page 117:
I also find it hard to believe that with all of the press that Natalee’s disapppearance has attracted, there is not one person anywhere who knows what happened to her. I can only surmise that those who do know something are too afraid to come forward. Maybe there would be a price to pay if they tell, a price so high and so threatening that not even the $1,000,000 reward money is enough of an enticement for someone to bring us the truth.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on October 04, 2011, 08:26:12 PM
Do we know what area their searching?

http://wikimapia.org/4256584/Seroe-Colorado

http://wikimapia.org/4227754/Aruba-Pet-Cemetery

I've said many times, I'm not a map person...but I think these are probably in the same area?



Same end of the island and also in the vicinity of the bar they were at and where he claimed they were snorkeling.  The red area is the pet cemetary.  So if you believe the "witness" they drove north/west from the pet cemetery towards baby beach.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/6212280074_04862d6eef_o.jpg)

Thanks  Klaas,  I always have envisioned the pet cemetery much further north by the bird sancutary.  This makes more sense.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 08:56:55 PM
Well, of course the dog search has to be kept super duper quiet (no media).

Can you imagine the number of hits those dogs will get?  I bet there are hidden "suicides" all over the place.

Did they bring in Dutch dogs for Tromp?

I was thinking the same today, about how many hits they'll get.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I don't remember the Dutch dogs searching for Tromp.  TES went over for a search months later, I don't recall anything about dogs being with them either.

http://www.korps-politie-suriname.com/nieuws/nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/archief%20nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal/2008/2008-08-nieuwsbronnen-internationaal/2008-08-nieuwsbronnen%20internationaal.htm

Google translation:

Missing Jose Tromp in TV Tros Missing

ORANGE CITY - The Missing Tros Dutch TV show goes, despite being Aruba, but pay attention to the missing 31-year old Aruban Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp . He disappeared into the morning of November 27, 2007. Tromp was an errand to do, but then was never home.

Jose worked as a civil servant, studied in the evening pre-university and would begin in September 2008 with a law degree. His mother, Petra Tromp, calls him a quiet boy. "Actually he was on good terms with everyone," says his mother. "He had lunch almost every afternoon at home with his parents, so when he came home that day was not weird." Then the same night he still came home , the parents contacted the police.

If there is no clear evidence of a crime, the police in adults who are missing, after 48 hours in action. The parents then have to search and inquire do. This resulted, unfortunately, and after 48 hours, they again went to the police station to report it. According to police, the mother took the case initially not serious because there is no evidence of a crime would be. After a conversation with the Attorney General is the official examination on December 10, 2007 launched. "Much time was therefore have been lost," said the desperate mother. On May 12 this year, volunteers from Texas Equusearch have even held a search for Tromp. Aided by Aruban volunteers, a search rope put around Santa Cruz. The intensive search yielded no useful clues. "The media at first, attention to this matter but after a few months everything seems to be forgotten, like a natural thing to be missing the world." The mother took matters by sitting and wrote to newspapers in the Netherlands and the United States. Also, several organizations were approached. She now has her hopes on the Missing program in September with a series of new episodes coming. (Amigoe)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 04, 2011, 09:35:32 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman)

Robyn Gardner’s Boyfriend Is Glad Aruban Authorities Have Brought In Cadaver Dogs
Posted on Oct 04, 2011 @ 05:30PM   

By Radar Staff

It has been over two months since Robyn Gardner vanished without a trace in Aruba and now the authorities on the island have amped up the search by bringing in sniffer dogs.

Robyn's longtime boyfriend, Richard Forester, has said from the early days in the investigation that he wished they would bring in Dutch dogs to help with the search.

"I am glad that they brought dogs in and I'm happy about it, I just wish that they had done it sooner," he told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 04, 2011, 09:44:01 PM
http://www.facebook.com/finalscreamdesigns

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u241/sosexispr/rgmm5.jpg)

Doesn't this look like the Divi tree found in Aruba?

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/41042_114125145309596_110435479011896_82835_6508035_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 09:51:06 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman)

Robyn Gardner’s Boyfriend Is Glad Aruban Authorities Have Brought In Cadaver Dogs
Posted on Oct 04, 2011 @ 05:30PM   

By Radar Staff

It has been over two months since Robyn Gardner vanished without a trace in Aruba and now the authorities on the island have amped up the search by bringing in sniffer dogs.

Robyn's longtime boyfriend, Richard Forester, has said from the early days in the investigation that he wished they would bring in Dutch dogs to help with the search.

"I am glad that they brought dogs in and I'm happy about it, I just wish that they had done it sooner," he told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.
 ::snipping2::

Wonder how much he's getting paid for these exclusive interviews... 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 04, 2011, 10:15:22 PM
Dogs to Search for U.S. Woman Missing in Aruba
Published October 04, 2011


<snipped>

ORANJESTAD, Aruba –  A team of cadaver dogs has arrived in Aruba to search for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing two months ago by her travel companion.

Solicitor General Taco Stein tells The Associated Press that the dogs arrived from the Netherlands last weekend and will begin searching soon for the body of 35-year-old Robyn Gardner. He says the search will focus on a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/04/dogs-to-search-for-us-woman-missing-in-aruba/


1 1/2 months later after declining FBI assistance ... Aruba brings their dogs to the the location of the alleged drown.  Crazy!!

Janet


Explicit pictures’ of Gardner on Giordano’s camera       
Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:14


<snipped>
 
He (Solicitor General Taco Stein) does confirm one person from the FBI, who is normally stationed in Barbados, is on the island. According to the OM, he coordinates the legal aid requests from Aruba to the United States. Stein does not expect more FIB-officers will come to the island. He states there are sufficient ‘extremely capable people’ in the Kingdom who can assist with the investigation. For example, he names a team with tracking dogs from the KLPD (Corps National Police Services) in The Netherlands that is ‘worldwide renown’ and on request could be deployed in tracing the body.

<snipped>

http://www.amigoe.com/english/81172-explicit-pictures-of-gardner-on-giordanos-camera



Yes Janet Crazy..the dogs arrived over the weekend..according to another article prefaced above...and then it takes the dogs and their handlers a few days to get out onto the area to search.... add the time she has been missing...I think they had better crime handler analysis in NYC  at the turn of the century  (1900)..not this one..the last one.  Just pitiful...


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 04, 2011, 10:17:36 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman)

Robyn Gardner’s Boyfriend Is Glad Aruban Authorities Have Brought In Cadaver Dogs
Posted on Oct 04, 2011 @ 05:30PM   

By Radar Staff

It has been over two months since Robyn Gardner vanished without a trace in Aruba and now the authorities on the island have amped up the search by bringing in sniffer dogs.

Robyn's longtime boyfriend, Richard Forester, has said from the early days in the investigation that he wished they would bring in Dutch dogs to help with the search.

"I am glad that they brought dogs in and I'm happy about it, I just wish that they had done it sooner," he told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.
 ::snipping2::

Wonder how much he's getting paid for these exclusive interviews... 

ITA..SOMETHING ABOUT fORRESTER IS JUST OFF!  He claims to be devastated..but has really done nothig other then give interviews.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 11:06:37 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman)

Robyn Gardner’s Boyfriend Is Glad Aruban Authorities Have Brought In Cadaver Dogs
Posted on Oct 04, 2011 @ 05:30PM   

By Radar Staff

It has been over two months since Robyn Gardner vanished without a trace in Aruba and now the authorities on the island have amped up the search by bringing in sniffer dogs.

Robyn's longtime boyfriend, Richard Forester, has said from the early days in the investigation that he wished they would bring in Dutch dogs to help with the search.

"I am glad that they brought dogs in and I'm happy about it, I just wish that they had done it sooner," he told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.
 ::snipping2::

Wonder how much he's getting paid for these exclusive interviews... 

ITA..SOMETHING ABOUT fORRESTER IS JUST OFF!  He claims to be devastated..but has really done nothig other then give interviews.

Did you see the Dr. Drew interview with him early in the case?  IMO Dr. Drew knew this was an abusive relationship...he didn't want to scare Richard off...but he knew.  And "poor" Richard is just so devastated that he blames everything on Robyn...the woman he supposedly loves that's missing!  You'd really need to see it to watch Dr. Drew...but here's part of the transcript.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/11/ddhln.01.html

 ::snipping2::

PINSKY: OK. Now, Richard, I want to go to you. I want to ask you something. But please know this is not meant as an accusation of anything. These are just something that came across.

FORESTER: Real quick, Dr. Drew, on that message, it did not say, "When we return." It said, "When I return."

PINSKY: OK. That seems a little -- the "we" seemed out of place for me there, too. So good. I`m glad that`s the case. Two sources. I want you to bear with me on this. But two sources told us that they witnessed a loud public screaming match between you and Robyn this July. We tried to verify that. We contacted police, and they said that they -- police apparently did have contact with you that night, but no one was arrested.

Let me be super clear. We are not -- we are only talking about this, because it`s been my experience that people who have volatility in their relationships may not always use best judgment.

FORESTER: Sure.

PINSKY: That perhaps would explain why Robyn was impulsive and left the country. And you know, didn`t really -- with someone she didn`t know very well.

FORESTER: Well -- first of all -- I`ll tell you about that day. That was actually back in February. We`d been out. She`d had a bit too much to drink. She was angry. She started screaming. Neighbors that live in apartments, you know, very close by heard. They called the police. Police came, saw that nothing was wrong, said, "Great, sorry to bother you. Have a good night."

PINSKY: I mean, I`m going to -- Richard, I`m going to tell you again this is by the facts as I understand them. The report that we heard was in July. The police report. Does that sound familiar? Does that ring any bells for you?

FORESTER: No, that does not. You know what? I`m so sorry. I`m so sorry. I`m so sorry. Because it did happen twice. It happened once in my apartment and once when we were at the beach. Again, a little bit too much to drink. She was screaming. An ex-boyfriend of hers had texted me. I asked her about it. She got mad. She started screaming. They called the police. Police came, saw that there was nothing wrong, nobody was hurt and nobody was getting hurt or was about to get hurt. They left.

PINSKY: Richard, did you ever worry about her alcohol relationship?

FORESTER: I did. I did. I did. Definitely. It was a point of contention.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: labubske on October 04, 2011, 11:19:54 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/robyn-gardner-body-aruban-authorities-cadaver-dogs-hunt-missing-maryland-woman)

Robyn Gardner’s Boyfriend Is Glad Aruban Authorities Have Brought In Cadaver Dogs
Posted on Oct 04, 2011 @ 05:30PM   

By Radar Staff

It has been over two months since Robyn Gardner vanished without a trace in Aruba and now the authorities on the island have amped up the search by bringing in sniffer dogs.

Robyn's longtime boyfriend, Richard Forester, has said from the early days in the investigation that he wished they would bring in Dutch dogs to help with the search.

"I am glad that they brought dogs in and I'm happy about it, I just wish that they had done it sooner," he told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.
 ::snipping2::

Wonder how much he's getting paid for these exclusive interviews... 

ITA..SOMETHING ABOUT fORRESTER IS JUST OFF!  He claims to be devastated..but has really done nothig other then give interviews.

I agree and have since she was reported missing.  I know without a doubt that he had contradicting statements in the beginning of all of this...but, now that is gone.  Does anyone else remember that?  He said something along the lines of thinking she had gone to Aruba with a girlfriend...then a gay friend...then the family.  Or something like that...I have been suspicious of him.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 04, 2011, 11:21:40 PM
Note the blue highlighted things that Robyn's friend Christina said about Richard...

AND, I'm wondering if the "ex" in this post is the same "ex" Richard referred to in his talk with Dr. Drew?  Why would an ex of Robyn's be texting Richard?  Maybe he knew he'd been mistreating her?

Considering that Richard's timeline on their relationship (before he changed it some from what...2 years to exclusive for 8 months?) would have crossed over with the ex that's communicating with Carla Baron.

http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/the-mystifying-twists-turns-in-the-search-for-robyn-gardner/

The Mystifying Twists & Turns In The Search For Robyn Gardner
Posted on October 2, 2011 by Psychic Carla Baron

 ::snipping2::

Recently, there have been many who have contacted me regarding missing Maryland resident, Robyn Gardner. Robyn was last seen Aug. 2nd during a short getaway to the isle of Aruba with traveling companion, Gary Giordano.

Today will be 2 months exactly marking her disappearance.

 ::snipping2::

Monday, September 5, 2011 4:44 AM PDT

“Hello Carla. My name is Christina Jones. I am Robyns roommate. I know that Richard is driving you MAD. I totally get it. I have my own opinion about him but that is neither here nor there…I am just trying very hard to bring justice on robyns behalf. I am now in Aruba with Kelly (Robyns Cousin)…I am here to try and find her.

I know that you are gifted and if you would communicate with me regarding any “vision” you have I would greatly appreciate it. I appreciate any time that you give and please don’t tell Richard that I am here. Sooner than later he will figure it out but I just don’t understand why IF he loves her so much…why didn’t he come here himself? He is a very controlling person and I am sorry you have had to learn that for yourself.

Anyways…my email is attached. I do have a phone in Aruba if you would rather talk.

Again, TY for your time!”


 ::snipping2::

We had a short chat via Skype to set a time for the 1st session later that night when she got back to her hotel. During the call, Christina made a few statements regarding Richard Forester, and what she believed happened between him and Robyn a couple months prior.
 
 
One statement, in particular, was in revealing that Robyn Gardner had broken her arm a few months before her trip to Aruba with Gary Giordano. And Christina felt very strongly due to Robyn’s behavior, and the events leading up, that Richard Forester was the one responsible for breaking Robyn’s arm. Christina said she even asked Richard about this event – suggesting he was involved. She said that he, of course, denied it at the time. Robyn said “she fell.”

However, Christina was CONVINCED that Richard Forester was the one responsible.

 ::snipping2::

This wasn’t the only time I would hear of this event with Robyn’s broken arm, and the attributing of this physical abuse to her boyfriend at the time – Richard Forester.

There were several emails from those close to Robyn Gardner who virtually reiterated the same words – unsolicited by me in any way. They just felt they should write me with this, as they did not feel comfortable going anywhere else with their feelings, I suppose,
or sharing any knowledge of the situation they were harboring in secret.

 ::snipping2::

A last text received by Christina Jones from Robyn Gardner in Aruba revealed she was BREAKING UP w/ Richard Forester upon her return.
 
(I heard this directly from Christina Jones in our preliminary Skype call the afternoon of Sept.5th)

 ::snipping2::

Forward to September 10th …

I received several emails from Robyn’s ex-boyfriend of 2.5 yrs.
(Not Richard Forester.)


 
 
This was the initial contact email from the “ex”  –

[Name withheld to protect privacy.]
 
_______________________________

Saturday, September 10, 2011 9:28 AM PDT

“I was the last person she spoke to on the phone the day she went missing at 1:20 pm that day. Last thing she said to me was I love you – you are my world.”

“I also saw her the Thursday before she left.”

…“only want to see if there is anything I can help you with.”

“She lived with me all of last year and I still have most of her things here as she never could bring herself to move out.


_______________________________

The “ex” and I have kept in contact often these past few weeks. We decided to wait on the “psychic” assist for now as he is working in harmony with Robyn Gardner’s family, and their utmost wishes in regards to the search/ investigation.

As I said …

Many mystifying twists & turns.

Maybe more so than any other case I have been involved, except for perhaps …
 
 
Natalee Holloway.
 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 04, 2011, 11:41:30 PM
ITA..with abisive men it is always the victims fault..never theirs...and that is what he is saying in the interview..and they never change their tune..if everyone did everything the way the abuser wanted..according to the abuser nothing would have ever happened..both in terms of physical and emotional abuse..it is always the other person's fault.  Maybe Robyn had a few drinks too many..but around the man or men who are supposed to care about her that doesn't mean it is time to physically abuse her or to murder her because she doesn't want to go along with what they are saying or wanting her to do.  Let's face it..it takes two people to have an arguement..that means that if she was drunk..and these men were sober..they certainly could have walked away with out harming her..in Maryland and Aruba....but that isn't what happened at all either of the times....


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 05, 2011, 12:04:59 AM
ITA..with abisive men it is always the victims fault..never theirs...and that is what he is saying in the interview..and they never change their tune..if everyone did everything the way the abuser wanted..according to the abuser nothing would have ever happened..both in terms of physical and emotional abuse..it is always the other person's fault.  Maybe Robyn had a few drinks too many..but around the man or men who are supposed to care about her that doesn't mean it is time to physically abuse her or to murder her because she doesn't want to go along with what they are saying or wanting her to do.  Let's face it..it takes two people to have an arguement..that means that if she was drunk..and these men were sober..they certainly could have walked away with out harming her..in Maryland and Aruba....but that isn't what happened at all either of the times....

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 05, 2011, 12:08:31 AM

[quote author=texasmom link=topic=12000.msg1474039#msg1474039 ITA..SOMETHING ABOUT fORRESTER IS JUST OFF!  He claims to be devastated..but has really done nothig other then give interviews.

I agree.

Robyn is a beautiful woman.  Why was she attracted to men who verbally and physically abuse?

Forrester is getting his 15 minutes of fame and probably big bucks for interviews.  He claims to love Robyn but ... love would have dictated he would have been on the first plane to Aruba after learning of her disappearance.

Giordano attempts to cash in on a life insurance policy three days following Robyn's disappearance.

Robyn deserved so much more in terms of respect from the men she allowed into her life but failed to realize it.

::MonkeyNoNo::
 
Janet





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 05, 2011, 01:10:42 AM
I haven't seen one posting about the cadaver dogs on any of the Aruban news sites yet.

Odd, imo.



I'd missed this...front page of Tuesday's Awe Mainta

Looks like they may be planning to use some dogs from the US too.   ::dogwag::

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

October 4, 2011 Front Page

 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10042011_AweMainta_FrontPage.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

thing is being considera because; ultimo attempt cu cachonan for of merca y the netherlands will go back busca robyn gardner

the watch is beat y not have mucho pista of desaparicion of the lady mericano, robyn gardner, that together cu his amigo, gary giordano owing to bay diving near of nanki y not owing to go back more. esey owing to wordo declara p’e amigo y till today not owing to achieve the curpa of the tourist here more. is being sospecha cu gary giordano have “a finger in the pie”, y pesey till today is close at kia. husticia have till end of the month here, for come cu pruebanan more palpable for follow deten’e or will let in freedom. pesey owing to trece cachonan experto for of merca y the netherlands, for help in busca robyn gardner, cu is cuminsa today morning in seroe colorado. all the time several canal of television mericano owing to arrive yesterday evening, for is witness of the busqueda (search) here. come across


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 05, 2011, 01:21:54 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/04/2437972/dogs-to-search-for-us-woman-missing.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/04/2437972/dogs-to-search-for-us-woman-missing.html)

Posted on Tue, Oct. 04, 2011
Dogs search for US woman missing in Aruba


The Associated Press
A team of cadaver dogs searched through cactus and scrub brush Tuesday for the remains of a Maryland woman who was reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba.

The dogs and their handlers, from a private foundation in the Netherlands that regularly assists police, worked for several hours before ending their efforts for the day without any apparent success. Solicitor General Taco Stein said they would be in the Dutch Caribbean island through the end of the week.

They planned to focus their search in a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado, not far from where 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Maryland, was reported missing on Aug. 2 by Gary Giordano, her travel companion.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/04/v-print/2437972/dogs-to-search-for-us-woman-missing.html#ixzz1ZsiojxOg


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 05, 2011, 01:58:49 PM
Final Scream Designs
Bruce Mori
Hometown: Fredneck, MD
TCS "TeleCommunications Systems
Annapolis, Maryland US
Satellite Customer Support Technician
Dec 08 - Present
http://www.myspace.com/finalscreamdesigns


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 05, 2011, 03:13:03 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/05/world/americas/aruba-missing-woman/

Aruban authorities search for missing woman
By the CNN Wire Staff
October 5, 2011 -- Updated 1800 GMT (0200 HKT)

(CNN) -- Aruban authorities used search dogs Wednesday to comb the area near where a Maryland woman went missing in August, officials in the prosecutor's office said.

The search in the Seroe Colorado area was originally reported to have begun Tuesday, but the six dogs involved were being acclimated to the terrain then and the official search is scheduled for Wednesday through Friday, officials said.

 ::snipping2::

The search dogs and handlers being used in the effort are from the Netherlands, authorities said. The search begins early in the morning. The teams take a break from the midday heat and then go back out for a few hours in the afternoon.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on October 05, 2011, 05:14:54 PM
 ::snipping2::

There are several groups active with search and rescue dogs in the Netherlands.
Most of them train for missing persons and disaster work but also some do tracking and water work.
The use of rescue dogs has become more widespread lately but the authorities are in general quite slow in requesting the help of dog teams.
Most of the times it is more then 24 hours after a person is missed that the dog teams are called.
Since the Rescue dog teams are all volunteer organizations there is no cost for the requesting party.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.sardogs.nl/


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 05, 2011, 11:50:15 PM
October 5, 2011 4:54 PM
Dogs search for U.S. woman Robyn Gardner, missing in Aruba


(CBS/AP) ORANJESTAD, Aruba - A team of cadaver dogs searched through cactus and scrub brush Tuesday for the remains of Robyn Gardner, a Maryland woman who was reported missing by traveling companion Gary Giordano during a trip to Aruba.

The dogs and their handlers, from a private foundation in the Netherlands that regularly assists police, worked for several hours before ending their efforts for the day without any apparent success. Solicitor General Taco Stein said they would be in the Dutch Caribbean Island through the end of the week.

They planned to focus their search in a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado, not far from where 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Md., was reported missing on Aug. 2 by Giordano.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20116201-504083.html





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 05, 2011, 11:59:29 PM
October 5, 2011 4:54 PM
Dogs search for U.S. woman Robyn Gardner, missing in Aruba


(CBS/AP) ORANJESTAD, Aruba - A team of cadaver dogs searched through cactus and scrub brush Tuesday for the remains of Robyn Gardner, a Maryland woman who was reported missing by traveling companion Gary Giordano during a trip to Aruba.

The dogs and their handlers, from a private foundation in the Netherlands that regularly assists police, worked for several hours before ending their efforts for the day without any apparent success. Solicitor General Taco Stein said they would be in the Dutch Caribbean Island through the end of the week.

They planned to focus their search in a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado, not far from where 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Md., was reported missing on Aug. 2 by Giordano.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20116201-504083.html


What happened to the team with tracking dogs from the KLPD that Taco Stein was upholding well over a month ago?

Janet

+++++


Explicit pictures’ of Gardner on Giordano’s camera       
Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:14


<snipped>
 
He (Solicitor General Taco Stein) does confirm one person from the FBI, who is normally stationed in Barbados, is on the island. According to the OM, he coordinates the legal aid requests from Aruba to the United States. Stein does not expect more FIB-officers will come to the island. He states there are sufficient ‘extremely capable people’ in the Kingdom who can assist with the investigation. For example, he names a team with tracking dogs from the KLPD (Corps National Police Services) in The Netherlands that is ‘worldwide renown’ and on request could be deployed in tracing the body.

<snipped>

http://www.amigoe.com/english/81172-explicit-pictures-of-gardner-on-giordanos-camera



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 03:11:39 AM
http://www.facebook.com/finalscreamdesigns

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u241/sosexispr/rgmm5.jpg)

Doesn't this look like the Divi tree found in Aruba?

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/41042_114125145309596_110435479011896_82835_6508035_n.jpg)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328?ref=ts

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10052011.jpg)

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 03:22:52 AM
More photo albums from Moomba beach July 31st

I didn't see Robyn in any of them, but I could have missed something. 

http://media7kcy.onlineview.it/GalleryThumbnails.aspx?gallery=965677

http://media7kcy.onlineview.it/GalleryThumbnails.aspx?gallery=965713



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 06, 2011, 08:48:45 AM
TM  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on October 06, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
Good morning monkeys.

Two months after Robyn's disappearance, they are finally searching with dogs.  Imagine how beneficial tracking dogs would have been in the first days.  *sigh*

It's remarkable to me how much Robyn's case resembles the disappearance of Orange County California woman Leta Lynn Cordes, from the island of St. Maarten.  Her husband was the last to see her, was arrested and held for months, then released for lack of evidence. 

There are many similarities in the investigations, or lack thereof, as well.  Authorities slow to react, delayed searches, lack of info released to the public. 

It's also amazing how similar Leta and Robyn are in terms of size, build, long blond hair. 
Tiny blonde bombshells.  Missing without a trace. 

God Bless them both and their loved ones.

 ::MonkeyBike::
 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 06, 2011, 11:20:19 AM

ITA..SOMETHING ABOUT fORRESTER IS JUST OFF!  He claims to be devastated..but has really done nothig other then give interviews.

Robyn's mom and her brother love her unconditionally.  I would like them to have a platform and voice in the media ... a platform and voice in the media that keeps the pressure on Aruba to contact a just investigation ... a platform and voice in the media that will assure that the disappearance of Robyn does not become yesterday's headlines.

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 06, 2011, 11:21:23 AM
contact s/b conduct


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 06, 2011, 01:06:47 PM
Cadaver dogs in Aruba come up empty on 1st day of search for remains of missing US tourist
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/teams-of-cadaver-dogs-to-search-in-aruba-for-remains-of-missing-us-tourist/2011/10/04/gIQALZIvKL_story.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on October 06, 2011, 03:18:59 PM
Has Aruba Cadaver dogs ever found anyone?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 03:21:44 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/37854-cacho-special-di-hulanda-pa-busca-turista-perdi-.html

Papiamentu translation:

come across cacho special of the netherlands for busca tourist perdi

thursday, 06 october 2011 01:02

tuesday for 6:30 of morning the cachonan owing to cuminsa cu one buskeda at hill colorado. is deal here of six ‘reddingshonden” cu they six “begeleidernan” cu owing to arrive the day before yesterday for of the netherlands specialmente for accomplish cu one mision of buskeda at aruba. they owing to wordo contrata for ministerio publico for haci the buskeda at height of hill colorado for her tourist perdi. is accustomed cu husticia is contrata specialistanan (manera the are provided that cuestion) for haci the type of trabao here. thing is particular of the cachonan is cu they do not specificamente “cadaverhonden” (manera time of holloway). they're “reddingshonden” cu is busca person bibo y dead, although in the caso here is obvio cu do not buscando one person cu bibo more. the cachonan will stay till weekend y will work all day. they have one territory much big for cubri y the circunstancianan is dificil. the territory is bad y the calor y sun is strong. my not can tell still con largo the cachonan will busca. the intencion is cu they're cuminsa early y is evita the oranan of more calor.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.oct.oct05.cachobuskedadimericano.front.JPG)

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.oct.oct05.cachobuskedadimericano.cacho%20(2).JPG)

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2011.oct.oct05.cachobuskedadimericano.cacho%20(8).JPG)

More pictures at the link!



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 06, 2011, 03:33:30 PM
October 5, 2011 4:54 PM
Dogs search for U.S. woman Robyn Gardner, missing in Aruba


(CBS/AP) ORANJESTAD, Aruba - A team of cadaver dogs searched through cactus and scrub brush Tuesday for the remains of Robyn Gardner, a Maryland woman who was reported missing by traveling companion Gary Giordano during a trip to Aruba.

The dogs and their handlers, from a private foundation in the Netherlands that regularly assists police, worked for several hours before ending their efforts for the day without any apparent success. Solicitor General Taco Stein said they would be in the Dutch Caribbean Island through the end of the week.

They planned to focus their search in a southeastern section of the island known as Seroe Colorado, not far from where 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Md., was reported missing on Aug. 2 by Giordano.

<snipped>

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20116201-504083.html


More than two months following the reported disappearance of Robyn Gardner Aruba brings in the dogs!

Obviously ... Robyn is not Taco Stein's daughter. 

I am so angry.  Robyn deserves sooo much more from the Aruban justice system ... the Aruban justice system that would not afford an invitation to the FBI for assistance.

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 05:39:58 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

(Richard Forester posted)


Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
A little info on the dogs that are currently in Aruba - RF

http://www.reddingshonden.nl/English.htm



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 05:45:14 PM
I saw Aruba and wondered what it said so I typed out just enough to find out...   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

Because of its use in Aruba, the new info on the right side of this page will not work. See the New Button to the left


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
The page won't allow me to copy the text into the translator so I'm having to type it out...  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

28 September: Green light for the search in Aruba.

At the request of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba and the Aruba Police Force (KPA) to the St. Rescue RHWW asked to assist in searching for the missing woman.

On September 28, the final decision that the team RHWW, which was already ready, could go to Aruba.

The Rescue Team consists of:
Louise Smith by Diso
Elly roast with Noa
Gaby Gutknecht with Quisto
Jan Bronkhorst Donja
John Norden with Asena
Sohn chose to Indy.

The stakes leadership consists of: Louise Smith and John van Norden



Tuesday, October 4: The first search-day
After reception and briefing on arrival by the police of Aruba during the week there is a close cooperation with the Aruban police (KPA). There is a continuous group of enemy we present them as part of the investigation. Moreover, they expect us to iced drinks and lots of water. Hitting each other with everyone very well, we welcome their presence.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 06:12:20 PM
http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::

We work with two groups of Louise Diso, with John Sena, Koos with Indy and the other group with Gaby Quisto, Elly with Noa, in Jan of Donja.

It was very hot these days, well above 35 degrees, for that reason we wanted an early start. This was also necessary because the dogs and the conductor also had to get used to the climatic transition. The search rate should be adjusted to this and the rest are more commonly inserted. Also, a lot more drunk than normal and there is a continuous backup transportbus with the KPA air present to the dogs to cool if necessary. If there is a break or consultation, the dogs are brought directly into the transport van. The day is divided into two parts, early in the morning at sunrise at 06:00 and 10:30 in the afternoon at 16:00 hours until it gets dark around 19:00 pm.

Then care for the dogs, food, evaluation of the day, preparing next day and go to bed early. We are staying in two bungalows adjacent to a park. Everyone has at his disposal a large room which also has an air conditioner.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 06:30:14 PM
http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::

The terrain varies from rough terrain with hard surfaces and sharp cacti, abandoned buildings due to thorns and bushes with long white beaches.

The result of the first day, despite the adaptation to heat, built a considerable part of the coast has been searched.

Wednesday, October 5: The second search-day.
Around 4:15 the alarm went off, after breakfast at 05:45 we started searching in a subsequent search area. We made the sunrise and it was noticed that the light was very fast. It was also the day a little less hot and there was a nice breeze in the morning force, but it was only right on the coast strip. A few hundred yards from the shore it was very hot including the heat radiation from the rock.

It soon became apparent that the media had been informed by the authorities regarding our participation in their search. We were all immediately visited by a journalist fimende so there was some delay in the progress of our research work. There were first some arrangements are made so we could continue our work undisturbed. The Aruban police (KPA) is then immediately blocks the passage which we did not suffer from unwanted human scent and other disturbances. That morning the dogs have done a good job despite the heat. Per dog looks how it stands for and then responding by enough or extra rest, watering and cooling, possibly in the refrigerated cars. Around 10:00 there is stopped and the dogs swam in the ocean. Then there is dinner and comfortable in the house where is staying. Around the clock will again be collected from 15:30 on the search location to continue the search until dark.

The second part of the day was again very hot and there is also sought for the part that worked like the KPA wanted. Besides the physical part and the terperatuur things we should be careful with certain plants and reptiles that live there. We worked until dark and the dogs have worked very well.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 06:37:47 PM
http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

Thursday, October 6: The third search.
This day had the same format as yesterday morning. It was further found that with the previous day has ended. The early morning was cloudy so the sun could not immediately put his stamp. Also there was a pleasant breeze. We start the temperature more bearable which is nice. It is all the dogs and worked well together and the Aruban police can see what we do and what AOL has been investigated. With them it goen together and the atmosphere is very good. The morning we stopped in an area which was also very rough in some places very difficult to access. However, it was decided a further pause to rest above the dogs to give extra rest because we have to / want to search Sunday. Therefore, we drove to our stay and will be back early Friday morning start searching.
We will keep you informed on this page.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 06:42:13 PM
After all that typing I figured out how to copy it...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 06, 2011, 09:20:50 PM
After all that typing I figured out how to copy it...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Awww  :smt056  You did good, texasmom, and you learned something new!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2011, 09:21:54 PM
After all that typing I figured out how to copy it...   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Awww  :smt056  You did good, texasmom, and you learned something new!  ::MonkeyDance::


Thanks grace-land   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 06, 2011, 09:27:52 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/caribiana/article/vinden-van-lichaam-vermiste-robyn-prioriteit-nr-1

Google translation

Finding missing body Robyn Priority No. 1
Published: October 6, 2011 - 4:18 pm | by Anneke Polak (Photo: Dilma Arends)

It is priority number one for the prosecution in Aruba for the possible remains of missing American tourist Robyn Gardner (35) found. That says Advocate General of the Public Prosecutor Taco Stein.

Last weekend, six dogs from the Netherlands to Aruba achieved. So far, the investigative efforts of the dogs in the area of ​​Colorado Seru yielded nothing. Until this weekend, the dogs used.

"Without a corpse, it is difficult to determine what happened. Making it priority number one. But there are several lines of research, there is a chance they might still be alive," says Stein.

Statement is wrong
On August 2 disappeared American tourist, after the American businessman Gary G. (50) was snorkelling. At least, that is the explanation of the man who remains the only suspect stuck.

In early November runs off his custody. "His statement is true on several points. This is evident from the reconstruction that we have kept," says Stein.

Extension of detention
After the expiry of the custody may in a judicial investigation to extend the detention of Gary G. be set up to thirty days. Then there is the possibility of using a pro forma summons the court to request the case to keep. That's a number of times possible, but not unlimited.


The police in Aruba is still working with 14 men to the cause. Currently the team is reinforced with six dogs, there were earlier interrogation experts from the Netherlands put on the case. There is still a collaboration with the FBI in the United States. Stein: "This makes sense because both the missing Gardner as the suspect come from the United States. We have traces of the past to trace."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 07, 2011, 01:16:29 AM
May have already been posted:

Richard Forresters's twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC (http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC)

Look who's following him on Twitter  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://twitter.com/#!/Observer7777 (http://twitter.com/#!/Observer7777)





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 07, 2011, 09:11:14 AM
May have already been posted:

Richard Forresters's twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC (http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC)

Look who's following him on Twitter  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://twitter.com/#!/Observer7777 (http://twitter.com/#!/Observer7777)






 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 07, 2011, 02:19:57 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/1296-rescue-dogs-from-netherlands-search-for-missing-tourist.html

Rescue dogs from Netherlands search for missing tourist         
Friday, 07 October 2011 02:44
 
 
Tuesday morning at 6:30, investigators and six doghandlers from the Netherlands with their dogs started a search at Sero Colorado. The handlers and their dogs arrived on Aruba Sunday to help look for Robyn Gardner, an American woman who was reported missing by her travel partner.

The travel partner said he lost her at sea at Nanki, Sero Colorado; he was arrested a few days later, police suspected him of being involved in her disappearance. The Public Prosecutor’s Office requested the assistance from the Netherlands. The dogs are not cadaver dogs, which was the case in the Holloway investigation. Although authorities do not expect to find Gardner alive, they are using rescue dogs that can detect cadavers, but can follow one or more specific scents as well.
 ::snipping2::

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_600_399_0_1___images_stories_news_2011_oct_oct06_cachobuskedadimericano_cacho_(20).JPG)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 07, 2011, 02:24:17 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/1296-rescue-dogs-from-netherlands-search-for-missing-tourist.html

 ::snipping2::

Quote
The dogs are not cadaver dogs, which was the case in the Holloway investigation. Although authorities do not expect to find Gardner alive, they are using rescue dogs that can detect cadavers, but can follow one or more specific scents as well.

Maybe immediately after Robyn's disappearance...but over TWO MONTHS after the fact, how does that make sense?   

::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on October 07, 2011, 03:59:13 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/1296-rescue-dogs-from-netherlands-search-for-missing-tourist.html

 ::snipping2::

Quote
The dogs are not cadaver dogs, which was the case in the Holloway investigation. Although authorities do not expect to find Gardner alive, they are using rescue dogs that can detect cadavers, but can follow one or more specific scents as well.

Maybe immediately after Robyn's disappearance...but over TWO MONTHS after the fact, how does that make sense?   

::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyRoll::

OH GOOD GRIEF!   ::pullinghairout::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 07, 2011, 05:02:54 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jose-baez-grossly-incompetent-cadaver-dogs-search-missing/story?id=14686061

Jose Baez: 'It's Grossly Incompetent' for Cadaver Dogs to Search for the Missing Maryland Woman Remains Now
By JOHN QUINONES (@JohnQABC) and ROXANNA SHERWOOD
Oct. 7, 2011

The defense attorney for Gary Giordano believes it is a waste of time for Aruban authorities to just now bring in cadaver dogs to search for the remains of his client's missing travel companion.

"I think it's grossly incompetent for cadaver dogs two plus months after the fact," Jose Baez told ABC's John Quinones. "Whatever scent of decomposition they expected to find is long gone."

 ::snipping2::

Giordano can be legally held for questioning until Oct. 31, at which time he could be allowed to go back to the United States, unless a judge decides there is evidence produced to continue to keep him there.

The solicitor general of the island is now saying he plans to ask for an extension to keep Giordano there longer. Authorities are not convinced he is telling the whole truth about exactly what happened to Gardner.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 07, 2011, 06:15:43 PM
May have already been posted:

Richard Forresters's twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC (http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC)

Look who's following him on Twitter  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://twitter.com/#!/Observer7777 (http://twitter.com/#!/Observer7777)


 ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm not surprised, he's been posting all along (know it all as usual) under one of his known aliases on the FB page that Richard posts on too.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8341.msg1223345#msg1223345

He's probably introduced him to all his Aruban friends.   ::MonkeyRoll::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 07, 2011, 09:48:23 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2011/10/07/dogs_find_no_trace_of_missing_us_woman_in_aruba/

Dogs find no trace of missing US woman in Aruba

October 7, 2011

ORANJESTAD, Aruba—A team of cadaver dogs summoned to help search for the remains of a Maryland woman reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba are leaving the island without finding any clues, officials said Friday.

Prosecutor Taco Stein said he was not concerned that the search did not yield any evidence.

"We have other lines of investigation," he said.

The dogs searched a southeastern section of the Dutch Caribbean island known as Seroe Colorado. It is near the site where Gary Giordano reported 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Maryland, missing on Aug. 2.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 07, 2011, 09:59:09 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2011/10/07/dogs_find_no_trace_of_missing_us_woman_in_aruba/

Dogs find no trace of missing US woman in Aruba

October 7, 2011

ORANJESTAD, Aruba—A team of cadaver dogs summoned to help search for the remains of a Maryland woman reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba are leaving the island without finding any clues, officials said Friday.

Prosecutor Taco Stein said he was not concerned that the search did not yield any evidence.

"We have other lines of investigation," he said.

The dogs searched a southeastern section of the Dutch Caribbean island known as Seroe Colorado. It is near the site where Gary Giordano reported 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Maryland, missing on Aug. 2.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

Search for a missing American TOURISTS ON ARUBA.

(October 3 to October 11, 2011)

 ::snipping2::


Have they changed their plans and are leaving early, or is that comment in the article BS?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 07, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jose-baez-grossly-incompetent-cadaver-dogs-search-missing/story?id=14686061

Jose Baez: 'It's Grossly Incompetent' for Cadaver Dogs to Search for the Missing Maryland Woman Remains Now
By JOHN QUINONES (@JohnQABC) and ROXANNA SHERWOOD
Oct. 7, 2011

The defense attorney for Gary Giordano believes it is a waste of time for Aruban authorities to just now bring in cadaver dogs to search for the remains of his client's missing travel companion.

"I think it's grossly incompetent for cadaver dogs two plus months after the fact," Jose Baez told ABC's John Quinones. "Whatever scent of decomposition they expected to find is long gone."

 ::snipping2::

Giordano can be legally held for questioning until Oct. 31, at which time he could be allowed to go back to the United States, unless a judge decides there is evidence produced to continue to keep him there.

The solicitor general of the island is now saying he plans to ask for an extension to keep Giordano there longer. Authorities are not convinced he is telling the whole truth about exactly what happened to Gardner.

 ::snipping2::


I toally despise Jose Baez..however ..that maybe the onetruthful statement he has ever made as a defense attorney.

Bringing the cadaver dogs in now..after their little little play acting is useless.....Aruba was made for the likes of Baez as a defense attorney..even he can see what a farce their legal and police system is today and previous.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 08, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Cadaver-dogs-find-nothing-in-Aruba-search/vFUV2awIRkGJNxQSV65A8Q.cspx

Cadaver dogs find nothing in Aruba search
October 8, 2011 - 3:57 PM

 ::snipping2::

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  An American tourist disappears on a vacation trip to Aruba.  The man she was last seen is the prime suspect.  But there's no body.  Does that mean there's no legal case?

That's how it played out more than six years ago when Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway vanished on a graduation trip to Aruba.  She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad bar with local teen Joran van der Sloot.  Despite repeated questioning by Aruban authorities...and despite a variety of later-denied versions of what happened that night...van der Sloot was never charged.

An eerily similar scenario is playing out now in the case of Robyn Gardner of suburban Washington, DC. Perhaps the biggest difference is the zeal with which Aruban authorities are pursuing the investigation involving her travelling companion, Gary Giordano.  His lawyers have even blamed the Holloway case for the intensity of the efforts against their client.

But, so far, those investigative efforts are reaching the same result as in Natalee's case....nothing tangible.  A search of the island by cadaver dogs this week has turned up nothing.  Here's the Associated Press report from Aruba.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba October 8, 2011 (AP)
A team of cadaver dogs summoned to help search for the remains of a Maryland woman reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba are leaving the island without finding any clues, officials said Friday.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 08, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
May have already been posted:

Richard Forresters's twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC (http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC)

Look who's following him on Twitter  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://twitter.com/#!/Observer7777 (http://twitter.com/#!/Observer7777)


 ::MonkeyTongue::

I'm not surprised, he's been posting all along (know it all as usual) under one of his known aliases on the FB page that Richard posts on too.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8341.msg1223345#msg1223345

He's probably introduced him to all his Aruban friends.   ::MonkeyRoll::




That would be Jim Dillard aka blue balls!
http://www.facebook.com/srch.php?nm=Jim+Dillard+Aruba&sid=680a90ccc84083aa1262a3e30b079dfc#/s.php?init=q&q=Jim%20Dillard%20Aruba&ref=ts&sid=13de92b8db0700fc030ccf429f41ec16

(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/6420/jimdillardfacebookfrien.jpg)


(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7780/observerpostingtoantoni.jpg)

 ::Baseball::
Edit-fixed quote.  MB


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 08, 2011, 07:04:26 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2011/10/07/dogs_find_no_trace_of_missing_us_woman_in_aruba/

Dogs find no trace of missing US woman in Aruba

October 7, 2011

ORANJESTAD, Aruba—A team of cadaver dogs summoned to help search for the remains of a Maryland woman reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba are leaving the island without finding any clues, officials said Friday.

Prosecutor Taco Stein said he was not concerned that the search did not yield any evidence.

"We have other lines of investigation," he said.

The dogs searched a southeastern section of the Dutch Caribbean island known as Seroe Colorado. It is near the site where Gary Giordano reported 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Maryland, missing on Aug. 2.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

Search for a missing American TOURISTS ON ARUBA.

(October 3 to October 11, 2011)

 ::snipping2::


Have they changed their plans and are leaving early, or is that comment in the article BS?

(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6268/fredgolbanewsearch2009.jpg)
Maybe they are referring to this man.

 ::PopcornFrog::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: pharlap on October 09, 2011, 07:01:26 AM
http://arubaherald.com/911/1296-rescue-dogs-from-netherlands-search-for-missing-tourist.html

 ::snipping2::

Quote
The dogs are not cadaver dogs, which was the case in the Holloway investigation. Although authorities do not expect to find Gardner alive, they are using rescue dogs that can detect cadavers, but can follow one or more specific scents as well.

Maybe immediately after Robyn's disappearance...but over TWO MONTHS after the fact, how does that make sense?   

::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyRoll::

OH GOOD GRIEF!   ::pullinghairout::



Totally agree, it makes NO sense.  Little to late.  All jmo
 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 09, 2011, 10:57:16 AM
http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

Thursday, October 6: The third search.
This day had the same format as yesterday morning. It was further found that with the previous day has ended. The early morning was cloudy so the sun could not immediately put his stamp. Also there was a pleasant breeze. We start the temperature more bearable which is nice. It is all the dogs and worked well together and the Aruban police can see what we do and what AOL has been investigated. With them it goen together and the atmosphere is very good. The morning we stopped in an area which was also very rough in some places very difficult to access. However, it was decided a further pause to rest above the dogs to give extra rest because we have to / want to search Sunday. Therefore, we drove to our stay and will be back early Friday morning start searching.
We will keep you informed on this page.

http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::


Friday, October 7: The search-day quarter.
This morning we started looking again at 06:00. A strip right on the coast was our
search area that we have done with the whole group. Because of the wind had kicked the line each other so we did not suffer. The weather was fine, cloudy and a good wind to
Search. Noticeable is that we become habituated to the climate. The schedule is so good for us Also adequate rest is built. Was stopped at 10:30 and we drove back to our stay.
At 13:00 it was served warm because for us the evening short. We n.l. not before 20:00 again our time and around 22:00 we are back to bed. At the end of the morning were happy
however remote, a few film crews working on shooting us. In the evening we heard
that this is an American channel has been observed. It was agreed that we do not interview
business.

The evening was again continued to the part where we have stopped the morning.

It was the afternoon was quite warm and humid. The wind rose and it was at the
early evening clouds were so good looking. Again, a good cooperation
with the people of the KPA, the continuous ride and drink with us again. Dogs
today work very well. The search area was including sand dunes with vegetation
and jagged rocky surfaces with height differences. Also, the dogs are very agile for cooling,
they just "off" in the water.

Saturday, October 8: The fifth search-day.
Sorry, there is no time for an update, we are into the evening spent. I'm going to
bed, we sleep until 06:00 am tomorrow ... and still going on.
Try it tomorrow if there is time.
The arrival at Schiphol Airport on Tuesday morning around 6:55 hours with flight KL783


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 09, 2011, 11:37:52 AM
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980517378

Jose Baez Makes Sense

October 08, 2011 06:25 AM EDT

(http://dawnali.com/celebritygossip/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/d44a0913-baez-exd-01.jpg)

 ::snipping2::
It seems as though these investigators in Aruba just don't know what they're doing. Are the drunken tour-guides moonlighting as police on this popular tourist island? It certainly does seem so when they wait until two months after the disappearance of Robyn Gardner before bringing scent/cadaver dogs into the equation. Jose Baez thinks that's ridiculous and well, he's absolutely right. Why on Earth has it taken this long to bring scent dogs to search for the missing Maryland woman? It looks like Jose is going to help, yet again, another accused murderer go free; because the investigators on this case have botched it from the get-go.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::boxingbaez2:: ::geraldodance:: ::boxingbaez2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 09, 2011, 11:41:43 AM
Are they using scent dogs or cadaver dogs?  Cadaver dogs would be helpful even now.  Scent dogs would be useless.  For some reason I thought they were using cadaver dogs.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 09, 2011, 07:12:19 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/1296-rescue-dogs-from-netherlands-search-for-missing-tourist.html

 ::snipping2::

Quote
The dogs are not cadaver dogs, which was the case in the Holloway investigation. Although authorities do not expect to find Gardner alive, they are using rescue dogs that can detect cadavers, but can follow one or more specific scents as well.

Maybe immediately after Robyn's disappearance...but over TWO MONTHS after the fact, how does that make sense?   

::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyRoll::

Bumped for Klaas...

According to the Aruba Herald...


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 10, 2011, 11:55:10 AM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-sex-swinger-robyn-gardner-death-trap-excusive-interview-it-could-have-been-me

ARUBA SEX SWINGER DEATH TRAP: “IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME!”
Published on: October 10, 2011
by John Blosser , NATIONAL ENQUIRER

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! Swinger invited to join tragic ROBYN GARDNER in Aruba by sex-crazed murder suspect—HOW she escaped death! “I just thank God I’m still alive!”

That’s what self-admitted swinger Rebecca Toring told The ENQUIRER in a bombshell world exclusive interview while detailing how she cheated death at the hands of Gary Giordano – the fiend imprisoned in Aruba on suspicion of killing blonde beauty Robyn Gardner for a $1.5 million insurance payoff.

“Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn,” said a badly shaken Rebecca.

Feeling “bad vibes” about the twisted lothario, Rebecca, 36, turned him down. But Robyn went with him on what cops believe was a final fatal fling in the sun.

The FBI interviewed Rebecca twice, believing the Williamsburg, Va., woman holds vital clues about Giordano. “The agents wanted to know everything about Gary – what kind of sex he liked, the nature of our relationship, how and where I met him,” said Rebecca. “They asked me if he had suggested me going on a trip with him and buying life insurance – and I told them he had. The thought of it all sends chills up my spine!”

For months Giordano tried to get Rebecca to travel to Maryland to have sex with him and the woman he called “my girlfriend Robyn,” she revealed.

Rebecca admitted she was planning to meet the couple for three-way sex and had a date set for Aug. 10 – after Giordano’s scheduled return from Aruba!

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 10, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
I just read that graceland. Pretty intersting that Gary talked about Holloway.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 10, 2011, 04:28:47 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/1296-rescue-dogs-from-netherlands-search-for-missing-tourist.html

 ::snipping2::

Quote
The dogs are not cadaver dogs, which was the case in the Holloway investigation. Although authorities do not expect to find Gardner alive, they are using rescue dogs that can detect cadavers, but can follow one or more specific scents as well.

Maybe immediately after Robyn's disappearance...but over TWO MONTHS after the fact, how does that make sense?   

::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyRoll::

Bumped for Klaas...

According to the Aruba Herald...

Rescue dogs?  What's wrong with them?  I know they say the dogs "can" detect cadavers but why not use CADAVER dogs if you don't suspect she is alive.  Unreal.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 10, 2011, 08:19:55 PM
http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

Thursday, October 6: The third search.
This day had the same format as yesterday morning. It was further found that with the previous day has ended. The early morning was cloudy so the sun could not immediately put his stamp. Also there was a pleasant breeze. We start the temperature more bearable which is nice. It is all the dogs and worked well together and the Aruban police can see what we do and what AOL has been investigated. With them it goen together and the atmosphere is very good. The morning we stopped in an area which was also very rough in some places very difficult to access. However, it was decided a further pause to rest above the dogs to give extra rest because we have to / want to search Sunday. Therefore, we drove to our stay and will be back early Friday morning start searching.
We will keep you informed on this page.

http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::


Friday, October 7: The search-day quarter.
This morning we started looking again at 06:00. A strip right on the coast was our
search area that we have done with the whole group. Because of the wind had kicked the line each other so we did not suffer. The weather was fine, cloudy and a good wind to
Search. Noticeable is that we become habituated to the climate. The schedule is so good for us Also adequate rest is built. Was stopped at 10:30 and we drove back to our stay.
At 13:00 it was served warm because for us the evening short. We n.l. not before 20:00 again our time and around 22:00 we are back to bed. At the end of the morning were happy
however remote, a few film crews working on shooting us. In the evening we heard
that this is an American channel has been observed. It was agreed that we do not interview
business.

The evening was again continued to the part where we have stopped the morning.

It was the afternoon was quite warm and humid. The wind rose and it was at the
early evening clouds were so good looking. Again, a good cooperation
with the people of the KPA, the continuous ride and drink with us again. Dogs
today work very well. The search area was including sand dunes with vegetation
and jagged rocky surfaces with height differences. Also, the dogs are very agile for cooling,
they just "off" in the water.

Saturday, October 8: The fifth search-day.
Sorry, there is no time for an update, we are into the evening spent. I'm going to
bed, we sleep until 06:00 am tomorrow ... and still going on.
Try it tomorrow if there is time.
The arrival at Schiphol Airport on Tuesday morning around 6:55 hours with flight KL783


http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::

Saturday, October 8: The fifth search-day.
Saturday is also asked at 06:00 hours as the week began. An attempt speaks to the water to look, but that was discontinued because of the high seas for several days that was present due to high winds. The other group completed the search area has not yet was fully completed. This day was in the morning (luckily for us) cloudy for us pleasant. At temperatures above 30 degrees, we become habituated. However, everything soon clammy because of the humidity in the air. After the other group came back from the water search
together we moved on to some other places to search. Saturday we until late in the evening spent, do we have back in the middle of the day to because heat and the sun again quite present.

Sunday, October 9: The search-day sixth.
In consultation with our regular group of police (KPA) we started the morning later. We
two hours later, because almost everything had started to search what you wanted to search. Against 11:30 The search completed, unfortunately, nothing found.

In the afternoon there with the group of the KPA have been a nice ending with a snack and a
drink that week as we could go through.

The cooperation between dog handlers and members of the KPA and the deployment of six
rescue was very good. The pleasant and open atmosphere of the whole week has certainly
positive contribution to the large area searched. The evening we have so many cases
be packed.

Monday, October 10: Return to Nederland.Om 9:00 we are expecting the police and have a brief conclusion.
Between 10:30 and 11:00 hours, we look at the airport.

Tuesday, October 11: Arrival at Schiphol.
The expected arrival at Schiphol Airport is 6:55 hours flight number KL783


Interesting to me that the prosecutor put this statement out before they were even finished searching! 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/prosecutor-on-aruba-says-dogs-searching-for-missing-us-woman-find-nothing-on-dutch-island/2011/10/07/gIQAG5PwTL_story.html

Quote
Prosecutor on Aruba says dogs searching for missing US woman find nothing on Dutch island
   
By Associated Press, Published: October 7

ORANJESTAD, Aruba — A team of cadaver dogs summoned to help search for the remains of a Maryland woman reported missing by her travel companion during a trip to Aruba are leaving the island without finding any clues, officials said Friday.

Prosecutor Taco Stein said he was not concerned that the search did not yield any evidence.

“We have other lines of investigation,” he said.

The dogs searched a southeastern section of the Dutch Caribbean island known as Seroe Colorado. It is near the site where Gary Giordano reported 35-year-old Robyn Gardner of Frederick, Maryland, missing on Aug. 2.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: KittyMom on October 10, 2011, 10:36:17 PM
Apparently there is a Kracken living off the shores of Aruba.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: pharlap on October 11, 2011, 10:10:58 AM
It's still beyond belief Aruba waited 7-8 weeks to do this. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::
Way wasn't this done within the first week?
I guess American's are the bottom of the barrel to the Aruba's police organizations.

Aruba really should be boycotted period.
All jmo.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 11, 2011, 03:07:31 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/11/world/americas/aruba-missing-woman/

Attorney seeks release of man held in Aruba disappearance

From Martin Savidge, CNN
updated 2:59 PM EST, Tue October 11, 2011


(CNN) -- The attorney for Gary Giordano has petitioned a court in Aruba demanding the immediate release of the detained American.

Attorney Michael Lopez said in an e-mail news release, "(T)he Judge of Instruction was requested to set client G. Giordano immediately free from his detention or at least to postpone his detention until eventual sentence against him has been passed after trial." The motion was filed on Monday.

No hearing date has been set, but both Lopez's office and Taco Stein, spokesman for the prosecutor's office, said they expect to have a decision later this week.

An assistant to Lopez was not able to say on what reasoning this request was being made. But a source close to the case said the demand was based on grounds the investigation has found nothing new nor any evidence of a crime.
 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 11, 2011, 03:08:01 PM
It's still beyond belief Aruba waited 7-8 weeks to do this. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyShocked::
Way wasn't this done within the first week?
I guess American's are the bottom of the barrel to the Aruba's police organizations.

Aruba really should be boycotted period.
All jmo.


 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Curly on October 11, 2011, 03:36:14 PM
This case is just another Aruban miscarriage of justice.
Poor Robyn. I doubt she'll ever be found.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 11, 2011, 04:46:44 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/lawyer-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-ask-aruban-judge-immediate-release

Gary Giordano’s Lawyers Ask Aruban Judge For Immediate Release
Posted on Oct 11, 2011 @ 11:05AM   

 ::snipping2::

Jose Baez, the high profile defense attorney got Casey Anthony released, is now in Aruba assisting Lopez and voiced his disagreement at the introduction of dogs so late in the investigation.

 ::snipping2::

"I think it's grossly incompetent for cadaver dogs two plus months after the fact," Jose Baez told ABC News last week. "Whatever scent of decomposition they expected to find is long gone."

"It's unfortunate what's happening to him and it angers me, which is why I got involved," Baez went on to say.

In August, a last month a three-judge panel in Aruba rejected Giordano's appeal to have his 60 day detention repealed and ordered that he remain in jail until the end of this month while the police build their case against him.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on October 11, 2011, 05:42:14 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/lawyer-murder-suspect-gary-giordano-ask-aruban-judge-immediate-release

Gary Giordano’s Lawyers Ask Aruban Judge For Immediate Release
Posted on Oct 11, 2011 @ 11:05AM   

 ::snipping2::

Jose Baez, the high profile defense attorney got Casey Anthony released, is now in Aruba assisting Lopez and voiced his disagreement at the introduction of dogs so late in the investigation.

 ::snipping2::

"I think it's grossly incompetent for cadaver dogs two plus months after the fact," Jose Baez told ABC News last week. "Whatever scent of decomposition they expected to find is long gone."

"It's unfortunate what's happening to him and it angers me, which is why I got involved," Baez went on to say.

In August, a last month a three-judge panel in Aruba rejected Giordano's appeal to have his 60 day detention repealed and ordered that he remain in jail until the end of this month while the police build their case against him.

 ::snipping2::


I'm pretty sure that Jose is wrong on this, as usual. 

From what I have read, cadaver dogs can detect the scent long after a person's death.  One article states:

http://www.biologycorner.com/anatomy/senses/crimedogs.html

But how good are dogs at detecting a skeleton from which all the flesh has fallen away? The anthropologist Keith Jacobi of the University of Alabama has investigated this at a police-dog training facility, where human remains ranging from fresh to skeletonised have been buried (the remains were bequeathed by donors).

In one study involving four dogs and their handlers, Jacobi says the dogs were able to detect remains at all stages of decomposition. Performance varied between dogs, but some could locate skeletonised remains buried in an area of 300ft by 150ft. "The few single human vertebrae I used in the study were well over 25 years old, and dry bone," Jacobi says. "This made the discovery of one of these vertebrae, which we buried in dense woods 2ft deep, by a cadaver dog pretty remarkable."

Most information I have read agrees.  Unfortunately, the scent of a live human by a "tracking dog" who was given an item with Robyn's scent, may have been helpful in the first days.  That is the opportunity which was lost.

However, we all know that the Aruban Police don't want to find any evidence, otherwise, they would have retained Giordano's rental car and collected forensic evidence. 

How long will we have to listen to nonsense about "botched investigations"?   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 11, 2011, 06:03:56 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/86977-om-wacht-advies-speurhondenteam-gardner-af

Google translation:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10112011_Amigoe_RobynGardner.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 13, 2011, 01:10:53 AM
http://www.reddingshonden.nl/

Google translation:

3 t / m 11 October 2011;
Search for missing American tourist in Aruba.
Unfortunately, the search did not lead to the recovery of the missing woman.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on October 13, 2011, 04:21:02 AM
Apparently there is a Kracken living off the shores of Aruba.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Laugh the heck out loud!!!!!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on October 13, 2011, 04:35:12 AM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-sex-swinger-robyn-gardner-death-trap-excusive-interview-it-could-have-been-me

ARUBA SEX SWINGER DEATH TRAP: “IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME!”
Published on: October 10, 2011
by John Blosser , NATIONAL ENQUIRER

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! Swinger invited to join tragic ROBYN GARDNER in Aruba by sex-crazed murder suspect—HOW she escaped death! “I just thank God I’m still alive!”

That’s what self-admitted swinger Rebecca Toring told The ENQUIRER in a bombshell world exclusive interview while detailing how she cheated death at the hands of Gary Giordano – the fiend imprisoned in Aruba on suspicion of killing blonde beauty Robyn Gardner for a $1.5 million insurance payoff.

“Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn,” said a badly shaken Rebecca.

Feeling “bad vibes” about the twisted lothario, Rebecca, 36, turned him down. But Robyn went with him on what cops believe was a final fatal fling in the sun.

The FBI interviewed Rebecca twice, believing the Williamsburg, Va., woman holds vital clues about Giordano. “The agents wanted to know everything about Gary – what kind of sex he liked, the nature of our relationship, how and where I met him,” said Rebecca. “They asked me if he had suggested me going on a trip with him and buying life insurance – and I told them he had. The thought of it all sends chills up my spine!”

For months Giordano tried to get Rebecca to travel to Maryland to have sex with him and the woman he called “my girlfriend Robyn,” she revealed.

Rebecca admitted she was planning to meet the couple for three-way sex and had a date set for Aug. 10 – after Giordano’s scheduled return from Aruba!

 ::snipping2::


I seriously doubt this chick's account. Unless she was using somebody else's picture on that "swinger's" website, and considering Giordano's mo & Robyn's exercise habits, I simply cannot see either one having a threesome with a lady that has a vajomach. Doesn't even add up. Plus I looked her up on 411, which only has 1 entry using the name she gave in the Enquirer interview, & seeing how picky Giordano's been in his past doesn't coincide with this lady's living situation. Is she just looking for 15 minutes of fame? Wonder how much she was paid...


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 13, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/38123-taco-stein-satisfecho-a-pesar-cu-no-a-haya-ningun-curpa-durante-buskeda.html

Papiamentu translation:

taco stein satisfecho owing to pesar cu not owing to achieve none curpa during buskeda

thursday, 13 october 2011 00:38

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0...images.stories.news.2011.PERSONAHE.taco_stein002.JPG)

the equipment cu week happen owing to cuminsa cu one buskeda cu six cacho on the curpa of the tourist mericano perdi, robyn gardner, owing to haci one evaluacion of the buskeda y owing to give conseho of thing owing to wordo haci. cu map y localisacionnan via gps, the buskeda owing to wordo poni on map.

this owing to thing advocate general taco stein owing to let know. the do not totalmente desapunta for thing is the result. “bo is wait for naturally on one descubrimento, owing to pesar cu the chensnan do not big.” the advocate general owing to tell cu the equipment owing to cubri one area big. owing to pesar of circunstancianan pisa, owing to try of haci the buskeda in the oranan of more fresco of day, for so the not cay pisa for her cachonan. “e was one buskeda intensivo. the guianan have to owing to arise for 4’or y 15 of morning for of they cama for so they cuminsa work for 5’or y mey cu the cachonan. ”e buskeda at hill colorado owing to cuminsa as cu day owing to open till more or less 10’or of morning. after the cachonan y they guia can owing to descansa one rato y work one rapport of the buskeda of morning. for 5’or of nightfall the cachonan y they guia was once more at the sitio for follow busca till hour cu become dark. “nos owing to hinca much hour in esaki” according stein. the comentario of jose baez, the advocate mericano of the sospechoso gary giordano, on the “incompetencia grotesco” cu after of two month of the desaparicion, still the cachonan is provided that busca, stein is bari'e for of table. according the advocate general still, till cu nueve month of the desaparicion, cachonan can achieve sufficient holo for can achieve algo.

radar of floor

ministerio publico is wait for dentro of corto one rapport extensivo of the equipment of buskeda dutch. akinan also is stop one conseho of thing have cu sosode cu the resultadonan. stein do not descarta cu owing to base die rapport cierto recomendacionnan of buskeda will have cu wordo haci in cierto areanan y also eventualmente will have have to of coba. also instalacion of one ‘grondradar’ can is possible. if have indicacion cu have algo hundo bury, the radar here can achieve this, according stein. grond or bodemradar can wordo instala for buskeda of obhetonan bury, cambio of the composicion of surface, scheur y espacionan. fuera of the resultadonan of the buskeda reciente, have another resultadonan of the buskeda, of cual still resultadonan have to wordo wait for, according stein. detayes of this the not owing to give.

extension of detencion

gary giordano is deteni by day 5 of august on suspicion of desaparicion of his compañe of biahe robyn gardner. husticia is conclui cu she mericano do not at vida more y cu giordano know more of thing el’a tell. gardner owing to desaparece on day 2 of august after of owing to bay snorkel cu the sospechoso behind ex nanki country club close of baby beach. owing to pesar of all buskeda, his curpa not owing to wordo achieve. one reconstruccion owing to wordo haci month happen door of husticia. door of the reconstruccion we know assure cu have cierto puntonan deduci, cu the sospechoso not owing to talk berdad. end of october giordano have to aparece fast of judge. akinan will dicidi if his detencion will wordo extendi or not. this can bay till cu one maximo of 30 day. do not assure if ministerio publico will ask for her extension here.

comentarionan (1) mustra/kita comentarionan come across...

scirbi for ex-yellowgirl, october 13, 2011
moviendo heaven y ground for hanja the tourist perdi but nothing parecido they do not make for busca two yui of ground cu is perdi feoi cu you they


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on October 13, 2011, 06:52:24 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-sex-swinger-robyn-gardner-death-trap-excusive-interview-it-could-have-been-me

ARUBA SEX SWINGER DEATH TRAP: “IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME!”
Published on: October 10, 2011
by John Blosser , NATIONAL ENQUIRER

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! Swinger invited to join tragic ROBYN GARDNER in Aruba by sex-crazed murder suspect—HOW she escaped death! “I just thank God I’m still alive!”

That’s what self-admitted swinger Rebecca Toring told The ENQUIRER in a bombshell world exclusive interview while detailing how she cheated death at the hands of Gary Giordano – the fiend imprisoned in Aruba on suspicion of killing blonde beauty Robyn Gardner for a $1.5 million insurance payoff.

“Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn,” said a badly shaken Rebecca.

Feeling “bad vibes” about the twisted lothario, Rebecca, 36, turned him down. But Robyn went with him on what cops believe was a final fatal fling in the sun.

The FBI interviewed Rebecca twice, believing the Williamsburg, Va., woman holds vital clues about Giordano. “The agents wanted to know everything about Gary – what kind of sex he liked, the nature of our relationship, how and where I met him,” said Rebecca. “They asked me if he had suggested me going on a trip with him and buying life insurance – and I told them he had. The thought of it all sends chills up my spine!”

For months Giordano tried to get Rebecca to travel to Maryland to have sex with him and the woman he called “my girlfriend Robyn,” she revealed.

Rebecca admitted she was planning to meet the couple for three-way sex and had a date set for Aug. 10 – after Giordano’s scheduled return from Aruba!

 ::snipping2::


I seriously doubt this chick's account. Unless she was using somebody else's picture on that "swinger's" website, and considering Giordano's mo & Robyn's exercise habits, I simply cannot see either one having a threesome with a lady that has a vajomach. Doesn't even add up. Plus I looked her up on 411, which only has 1 entry using the name she gave in the Enquirer interview, & seeing how picky Giordano's been in his past doesn't coincide with this lady's living situation. Is she just looking for 15 minutes of fame? Wonder how much she was paid...

Where is her picture?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 13, 2011, 07:13:16 PM
With picture of Rebecca

http://crimesceneusa.blogspot.com/2011/10/swinger-my-missed-threesome-with-robyn.html

SWINGER: MY THREESOME WITH ROBYN GARDNER
Tuesday, October 11, 2011

A SELF-CONFESSED swinger says she was invited on the Aruban sex trip with missing party girl Robyn Gardner but begged off. Gary Giordano--the man suspected of orchestrating Robyn's disappearance Aug. 2--had also invited Rebecca Toring for fun and games under the sun. Now, she tells the National Enquirer she's thanking her lucky stars. She said: "I just thank God I'm still alive. Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on October 13, 2011, 07:16:27 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/aruba-sex-swinger-robyn-gardner-death-trap-excusive-interview-it-could-have-been-me

ARUBA SEX SWINGER DEATH TRAP: “IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME!”
Published on: October 10, 2011
by John Blosser , NATIONAL ENQUIRER

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! Swinger invited to join tragic ROBYN GARDNER in Aruba by sex-crazed murder suspect—HOW she escaped death! “I just thank God I’m still alive!”

That’s what self-admitted swinger Rebecca Toring told The ENQUIRER in a bombshell world exclusive interview while detailing how she cheated death at the hands of Gary Giordano – the fiend imprisoned in Aruba on suspicion of killing blonde beauty Robyn Gardner for a $1.5 million insurance payoff.

“Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn,” said a badly shaken Rebecca.

Feeling “bad vibes” about the twisted lothario, Rebecca, 36, turned him down. But Robyn went with him on what cops believe was a final fatal fling in the sun.

The FBI interviewed Rebecca twice, believing the Williamsburg, Va., woman holds vital clues about Giordano. “The agents wanted to know everything about Gary – what kind of sex he liked, the nature of our relationship, how and where I met him,” said Rebecca. “They asked me if he had suggested me going on a trip with him and buying life insurance – and I told them he had. The thought of it all sends chills up my spine!”

For months Giordano tried to get Rebecca to travel to Maryland to have sex with him and the woman he called “my girlfriend Robyn,” she revealed.

Rebecca admitted she was planning to meet the couple for three-way sex and had a date set for Aug. 10 – after Giordano’s scheduled return from Aruba!

 ::snipping2::


I seriously doubt this chick's account. Unless she was using somebody else's picture on that "swinger's" website, and considering Giordano's mo & Robyn's exercise habits, I simply cannot see either one having a threesome with a lady that has a vajomach. Doesn't even add up. Plus I looked her up on 411, which only has 1 entry using the name she gave in the Enquirer interview, & seeing how picky Giordano's been in his past doesn't coincide with this lady's living situation. Is she just looking for 15 minutes of fame? Wonder how much she was paid...

Where is her picture?

She is pictured in this article.

http://crimesceneusa.blogspot.com/2011/10/swinger-my-missed-threesome-with-robyn.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: AZSunny on October 13, 2011, 07:17:05 PM
With picture of Rebecca

http://crimesceneusa.blogspot.com/2011/10/swinger-my-missed-threesome-with-robyn.html

SWINGER: MY THREESOME WITH ROBYN GARDNER
Tuesday, October 11, 2011

A SELF-CONFESSED swinger says she was invited on the Aruban sex trip with missing party girl Robyn Gardner but begged off. Gary Giordano--the man suspected of orchestrating Robyn's disappearance Aug. 2--had also invited Rebecca Toring for fun and games under the sun. Now, she tells the National Enquirer she's thanking her lucky stars. She said: "I just thank God I'm still alive. Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn."

 ::snipping2::


Didn't see you found it!  Thanks...sorry for the duplicate.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 13, 2011, 08:14:16 PM
With picture of Rebecca

http://crimesceneusa.blogspot.com/2011/10/swinger-my-missed-threesome-with-robyn.html

SWINGER: MY THREESOME WITH ROBYN GARDNER
Tuesday, October 11, 2011

A SELF-CONFESSED swinger says she was invited on the Aruban sex trip with missing party girl Robyn Gardner but begged off. Gary Giordano--the man suspected of orchestrating Robyn's disappearance Aug. 2--had also invited Rebecca Toring for fun and games under the sun. Now, she tells the National Enquirer she's thanking her lucky stars. She said: "I just thank God I'm still alive. Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn."

 ::snipping2::


Didn't see you found it!  Thanks...sorry for the duplicate.

No problem.  I'm surprised that we didn't bump into each other when we were reading the article and looking over her picure. lol


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 13, 2011, 08:25:23 PM
Texasmom, here is your article in English!  ::MonkeyDance::

http://arubaherald.com/court/1358-taco-stein-dogs-are-able-to-find-evidence-up-to-nine-months-after-a-disappearance.html

Taco Stein: Dogs are able to find evidence up to nine months after a disappearance       
Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:25

The team that searched the Sero Colorado area in search of evidence and any indication of the presence of Robyn Gardner has submitted their evaluation. The team of six search dogs and their handlers worked with a map and GPS to map out the search. Attorney General Taco Stein said he is not disappointed with the results.

“One naturally expects to find something, regardless if the chances are not big,” Stein added.   He said the team covered a large area. “It was an intensive search,” he commented. He explained that the team began working every day around 5:30 a.m. and would search until 10 a.m., after which they would take a break and return to the area for more searching at 5 p.m., until dark. About the comment by the detained suspect Gary Giordano’s U.S. lawyer, Jose Baez, that it was grossly incompetent for the authorities not to search with dogs before, Stein remarked that the dogs are able to find evidence up to nine months after a disappearance.

Ground-penetrating radar

The Public Attorney General’s office expects an extensive report from the Dutch search team soon. The report will include advice on follow up actions. Stein said it is possible that more searches will have to be carried out, which might also include digging and/or the installation of a ground-penetrating radar.

Without giving any details, Stein added that there are other results from other searches that are also pending.

Extension of detention
 
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Buckeye on October 14, 2011, 11:47:44 AM
The Gaithersburg, Md. man suspected in the disappearance of a Frederick, Md. woman got a new high-profile defense lawyer on Thursday.

NBC News was the first to learn that Chris Lejuez is the new lead attorney for Gary Giordano in Aruba.

Lejuez replaces attorney Michael Lopez, who will continue to work on the case. Lejuez once defended two security guards who were suspected in the disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway. Those guards were eventually released.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Former-Holloway-Case-Lawyer-Joins-Giordanos-Team.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 14, 2011, 02:19:42 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/gary-giordano-robyn-gardner-aruba-suspect-hearing-missing

Gary Giordano Will Face Aruban Judge Monday 
Posted on Oct 14, 2011 @ 12:30AM   
By Radar Staff

Gary Giordano, the prime suspect in the murder of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner will be back in an Aruban court on Monday, RadarOnline.com has learned.

The hearing date has been set for Monday at 10 a.m. local time, Giordano's lawyer, Michael Lopez of Lopez Law, revealed to RadarOnline.com in an e-mail on Friday.

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Lopez filed a petition on October 11 at the Court of First Instance of Aruba asking for the judge to immediately set Giordano "free from his detention or at least to postpone his detention until eventual sentence against him has been passed after trial."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 14, 2011, 05:17:15 PM
The Gaithersburg, Md. man suspected in the disappearance of a Frederick, Md. woman got a new high-profile defense lawyer on Thursday.

NBC News was the first to learn that Chris Lejuez is the new lead attorney for Gary Giordano in Aruba.

Lejuez replaces attorney Michael Lopez, who will continue to work on the case. Lejuez once defended two security guards who were suspected in the disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway. Those guards were eventually released.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Former-Holloway-Case-Lawyer-Joins-Giordanos-Team.html


....well, well, well now ain't that special!!!



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Post by: Kermit on October 14, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
With picture of Rebecca

http://crimesceneusa.blogspot.com/2011/10/swinger-my-missed-threesome-with-robyn.html

SWINGER: MY THREESOME WITH ROBYN GARDNER
Tuesday, October 11, 2011

A SELF-CONFESSED swinger says she was invited on the Aruban sex trip with missing party girl Robyn Gardner but begged off. Gary Giordano--the man suspected of orchestrating Robyn's disappearance Aug. 2--had also invited Rebecca Toring for fun and games under the sun. Now, she tells the National Enquirer she's thanking her lucky stars. She said: "I just thank God I'm still alive. Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn."

 ::snipping2::


Now that is a real sex pot!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iGbZ8H9fS88/TpQf-AtU2pI/AAAAAAAACvM/3HeiyPTXoWQ/s1600/275925_100001693359609_4109238_n.jpg)



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: pharlap on October 14, 2011, 05:26:16 PM
Ok, IF (which I believe he's involved, jmo) he did it, this wouldn't be the first time I bet.
Wonder if anyone is looking into his past at all...
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 15, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2593542 (http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2593542)

Aruba: An island in the storm

Saturday - 10/15/2011, 8:58am  ET
Robyn Colson Gardner (Courtesy of Facebook)
Robyn Gardner, 35, has been missing since Aug. 2 and is presumed dead. (File Photo)


WASHINGTON - Robyn Gardner went missing more than two months ago after traveling to Aruba with Gary Giordano. She is presumed dead, and he has been detained as a suspect since early August.

Giordano, 50, called police in Aruba around 6:30 p.m. on Aug. 2 to say that he and Gardner, 35, got separated while snorkeling and she never made it back to shore.

Giordano, an owner of a temporary staffing business from Gaithersburg, Md., traveled to Aruba with Gardner, from Frederick, Md., on July 31 and reported her missing two days later. He told police that she disappeared while the two were snorkeling.

He initially assisted the search but was detained at the airport Aug. 5 as he tried to leave Aruba. Authorities said they found discrepancies in his story. Giordano has denied any wrongdoing through his attorney.

WTOP's Del Walters has traveled to Aruba to look at how this latest missing person's case has affected the tiny Caribbean island.

Aruba wants to see itself as a happy place. A warm, sunny place welcoming to tourists from across the world.

But Gardner's disappearance is the second mark on the tiny island's otherwise pristine image. First Natalee Holloway and now Robyn Gardner. In both cases an attractive young tourist disappears, and in both cases, no one can seem to find the body.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 15, 2011, 10:51:36 AM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I bet Robyn's family has cried many tears over the last months wondering what happened to her.  And who cares if Gary's story has stayed the same since it's a LIE!  jmo

 ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/14/world/americas/aruba-missing-woman-attorney/

U.S. suspect held in Aruba hires new lead attorney

From Martin Savidge, CNN
updated 4:40 PM EST, Fri October 14, 2011

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Chris Lejuez is the new lead defense attorney for Gary Giordano
Giordano is being held in Aruba in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner, 35
Authorities say Giordano is the beneficiary of her $1.5 million insurance policy
Lejuez, with 17 years' experience in Aruba, was involved in Natalee Holloway case

(CNN) -- A Maryland man being held in Aruba in the disappearance of an American woman there has retained criminal defense attorney Chris Lejuez, the attorney said Friday.
He takes over as lead defense attorney after spending two days in lengthy meetings with Gary Giordano, 50, at the prison in Aruba where Giordano is confined, Lejuez said.
Giordano, who is being held in connection with the disappearance of traveling companion Robyn Gardner, 35, was taken into custody August 5 at the airport in Aruba as he waited for a flight back to the United States. He has been held for 70 days.

Giordano has maintained the pair went snorkeling behind the Nanki Country Club on the southern end of the island and that Gardner vanished in the water as he returned to shore. Authorities say Giordano was the beneficiary of a $1.5 million accidental death insurance policy on Gardner, taken out just days before their trip.

Lejuez said Giordano has never changed his account of what happened; instead, it is the police who come at Giordano with different theories as to what might have happened.
Even after all of their investigating, authorities "cannot prove that a crime has been committed," Lejuez said.

He said that as he's being held in prison, Giordano is simply trying to "hold it together," and "feels boxed in, accused of something he did not do."

At one point in their conversation, Lejuez said, his client "broke down in tears" of frustration.

He will be working with Giordano's U.S.-based attorney, Jose Baez.

 ::snipping2::

Lejuez bristled at any suggestion of similarity between the Gardner case and the Holloway case.

"You had a suspect that kept changing his story," Lejuez said of van der Sloot. "In this case, (Giordano's) story has been the same."


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 15, 2011, 11:05:49 AM
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2593542 (http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2593542)

Aruba: An island in the storm

Saturday - 10/15/2011, 8:58am  ET
Robyn Colson Gardner (Courtesy of Facebook)
Robyn Gardner, 35, has been missing since Aug. 2 and is presumed dead. (File Photo)


WASHINGTON - Robyn Gardner went missing more than two months ago after traveling to Aruba with Gary Giordano. She is presumed dead, and he has been detained as a suspect since early August.

Giordano, 50, called police in Aruba around 6:30 p.m. on Aug. 2 to say that he and Gardner, 35, got separated while snorkeling and she never made it back to shore.

Giordano, an owner of a temporary staffing business from Gaithersburg, Md., traveled to Aruba with Gardner, from Frederick, Md., on July 31 and reported her missing two days later. He told police that she disappeared while the two were snorkeling.

He initially assisted the search but was detained at the airport Aug. 5 as he tried to leave Aruba. Authorities said they found discrepancies in his story. Giordano has denied any wrongdoing through his attorney.

WTOP's Del Walters has traveled to Aruba to look at how this latest missing person's case has affected the tiny Caribbean island.

Aruba wants to see itself as a happy place. A warm, sunny place welcoming to tourists from across the world.

But Gardner's disappearance is the second mark on the tiny island's otherwise pristine image. First Natalee Holloway and now Robyn Gardner. In both cases an attractive young tourist disappears, and in both cases, no one can seem to find the body.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=41&sid=2593542

 ::snipping2::

Like most of the Caribbean Islands, Aruba depends on tourism to survive.

Fritz Israel, the island's Director of Tourism, says about 70 or 80 percent of their economy comes from tourism.

1.5 million tourists visit Aruba each year. 75 percent of those tourists come from the U.S.

Aruba has changed. This was Walters's fifth trip to the island. He says there is new security where he stays, a guard watches the compound at night.

There is an uneasy calm, when approached most merchants smile, and politely say no comment.

One who did speak to Walters says the island was just fully recovering from the Natalee Holloway's disappearance when Gardner went missing. He says it's like Holloway's case never ended, and he just want some closure.

As the world awaits answers, Aruba continues its search for a killer, while at the same time seeking to guard it's reputation and economic way of life.


http://twitter.com/#!/mahudgins (http://twitter.com/#!/mahudgins)

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 15, 2011, 11:06:20 AM
Yeah SLOOT broke down in tears too  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 15, 2011, 11:11:24 AM
There will never be closure as long as American tourists continue to disappear without a trace while visiting Aruba.  Ignoring and trying to hide the problem won't solve it!  jmo

 ::pullinghairout::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2011, 11:11:50 AM
Yeah SLOOT broke down in tears too  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well, ain't that special.  These big bullying, brutes that treat women so badly, abuse them and sometimes murder them are big babies.  They can dish out the pain, but they just can't take it when their crimes catch up with them.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 15, 2011, 11:13:48 AM
Yeah SLOOT broke down in tears too  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yep, but they were both only crying for themselves. 

They're the victims...   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 15, 2011, 12:13:27 PM
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Aruba-reeling-from-second-tourist-disappearance/WTn78rAwe0WZOM6wqhyZMg.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Aruba-reeling-from-second-tourist-disappearance/WTn78rAwe0WZOM6wqhyZMg.cspx)

Aruba reeling from second tourist disappearance


Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  First Natalee Holloway, now Robyn Gardner. Tourist dependent Aruba reels behind the headlines.

There are significant differences between the 2005 disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway and the 2011 disappearance of Robyn Gardner of suburban Washington.

Natalee was on a graduation trip with friends and classmates from Mountain Brook High School.  She was last seen leaving an Oranjestad bar with three local teens.  Joran van der Sloot emerged as the prime suspect in the case.  He has told a variety of stories about what happened that night...all of which have either been debunked by authorities or later denied by himself. 

Van der Sloot was questioned repeatedly by Aruba authorities but never charged.  Many contend his late father, a local judge, exercised undue influence over the investigation.

Robyn Gardner was in her thirties and travelling to Aruba with Gary Giordano...who she met online.  Giordano says Gardner disappeared while they were snorkeling.  He originally cooperated with local authorities but was arrested when he tried to leave the island.  He's still in custody but his lawyers claim his detention has been unduly influenced by fallout from the Holloway/van der Sloot investigation.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 15, 2011, 12:57:30 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/87434-nieuwe-advocaat-voor-giordano

Google translation:

New lawyer for Giordano

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2011 9:20

ORANGE CITY - Suspect Gary Giordano has a new lawyer yesterday, Chris Lejeuz. "I am the leading attorney in this matter and have the last word", as confirmed this morning Amigoe Lejuez. Lawyer Michael Lopez, on Monday submitted a request for immediate release or suspended detention, however, remains involved in the matter.

Lejuez will not say why he is the new attorney and whether at the request of the suspect. He has at least since yesterday, counsel and the prosecution file can now see. "This is my first notice that my client much was interrogated by the police and that he could at the beginning of the interrogations a declaration and could never get deviated." Counsel further notes that the statements shows that Giordano is tired of answering questions that have already been asked and which he has answered.

Lejuez Gardner compares the case with the case of missing Natalee Holloway. "The big difference between the two cases is that the suspect in Holloway always changing explanations came from Gardner and justice always comes up new theories. But I can not find the file that the declaration of my client-defeating. "

In freedom

Although Giordano now has a new lawyer, the lawyer requested that Lopez submitted Monday, just treated. That case is coming on Monday. Lejuez said that this request was made before he was counsel for Giordano. "That is a matter that Lopez has filed and that he will finish." Previously, even the U.S. attorney Jose Baez added to the team of lawyers who assist Giordano.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 15, 2011, 01:22:23 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6170/6246556065_7b02045cde_o.gif)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 15, 2011, 01:27:21 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6170/6246556065_7b02045cde_o.gif)

American's stay away...it's not worth your family NEVER knowing what happened to you!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 15, 2011, 02:23:20 PM
Yeah SLOOT broke down in tears too  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yep, but they were both only crying for themselves. 

They're the victims...   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

ITA, they were both only crying for themselves!!  Stupid namby-pamby sorry excuse for men that they are...  ::MonkeyMad::   JMHO


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 15, 2011, 03:32:19 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1862225010266&set=p.1862225010266&type=1&ref=nf

Tromp Maria's Photos

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/VicenzoTromp11272007.jpg)

My name is Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp.

I was 30 years of age at the time of my disappearance back in 2007. Many people on the island of Aruba knows what happened to me, but I guess they are afraid to say something or maybe they do not know whom to trust with this information about my disappearance.

At the time of my disappearance I was working on many projects of which the first and most important one was that I started a course, so that I can get enrolled in the University to study law.

I was thinking about doing this long time ago, but then decided to just go for it. During my last days at home I was reading the book "The Color Purple" (by Alice Walker). On my bed I left the book "De roep van de Troepiaal". I did not get a chance to read this one for my Dutch exam in Jan. 2008, because someone decided to change my future without my permission.

The second most important thing I was doing was building my own house, never before in my life I thought I would or could do that, but when I started, o boy I liked doing that, but I can tell you... this was hard work.

Of couse I also had my daily job as a prison guard at the only jail on the island. I knew I would never stay there forever and that's why I decided to start working towards a career change.

I had lots of plans for 2008, but again I have to say other people decided to change my faith, leaving all my plans without being realized and leaving my family and friends in a lot of pain and grieve. I know my family will never stop searching for me, they are determined to continue until they get all answers as to what was done to me and why.......

September 25


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Babybear on October 16, 2011, 01:34:48 PM
Ok, IF (which I believe he's involved, jmo) he did it, this wouldn't be the first time I bet.
Wonder if anyone is looking into his past at all...
 ::MonkeyEek::

Pharlap---I think there is enough actual evidence to believe Giordana is the person responsible for Robyn's disappearance:  The fight in the elevator in which he said "I'll kill you." Being the last person seen with her and witnesses say she was in a woozy state, not in condition to go snorkeling. Also, her friends say that she took pride in her appearance and she would never go in salt water and ruin her hair extensions, plus the waiter saying she obviously had spent a lot of time with her appearance and make up that afternoon.  The insurance on her life for which he is the benefiiary. His reputation with women. etc. etc. etc.  And I also agree there's a good chance that this is not the first time.

I would never accuse anyone without evidence, but IMO there's plenty of it here.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 17, 2011, 01:20:02 PM
An Aruban court has denied American Gary Giordano's request to be released from jail, a spokeswoman for Aruban prosecutors said Monday.

Giordano, who is being held in connection with the disappearance of traveling companion Robyn Gardner, 35, was taken into custody August 5 at the airport in Aruba as he waited for a flight back to the United States. He has been held for 70 days.

Giordano has maintained the pair went snorkeling behind the Nanki Country Club on the southern end of the island and that Gardner vanished in the water as he returned to shore. Authorities say Giordano was the beneficiary of a $1.5 million accidental death insurance policy on Gardner, taken out just days before their trip.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/17/aruban-court-denies-u-s-suspects-request-to-be-released-from-jail/



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 17, 2011, 03:35:41 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/17/justice/aruba-missing-woman/index.html

American held in Aruba disappearance won't go free

By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 12:57 PM EST, Mon October 17, 2011

(CNN) -- A man detained in the disappearance of a Maryland woman during a vacation in Aruba will remain behind bars at least until the end of October, Aruban prosecutors said Monday.

Gary Giordano was arrested by Aruban police on August 5, three days after his traveling companion Robyn Gardner was last seen on a beach on the Caribbean Island.

Attorney Michael Lopez went to court Monday morning and asked for Giordano's release.
Lopez argued that authorities do not have enough evidence to continue to hold the 50-year-old Maryland man, but the court did not agree.

"Gary Giordano defense attorney's request for release has been denied," said Ann Angela from the Aruban prosecutor's office. Giordano's next detainment hearing is scheduled for the end of the month, Angela said.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 17, 2011, 06:21:12 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/gary-giordano-release-denied-robyn-gardner-aruba-murder-suspect

Robyn Gardner’s Boyfriend Is Glad Murder Suspect Gary Giordano Is To Remain In Jail 
Posted on Oct 17, 2011 @ 02:00PM
By Radar Staff

Murder suspect Gary Giordano was once again denied his request for release on Monday and will remain behind bars in Aruba until the end of October, RadarOnline.com has learned.

Richard Forester, the boyfriend of Robyn Gardner, who disappeared while vacationing on the island with Giordano, talked exclusively to RadarOnline.com upon hearing the news that the Maryland man will not be released.

"While I'm glad he is still being detained, it doesn't answer any questions of Robyn's whereabouts. THIS is priority number one!" A vehement Forester told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.

PHOTOS: Robyn Gardner And Richard Forester In Happier Times

"There needs to be more broad searches covering Aruba and other surrounding islands and countries. Aruba needs the help of Interpol and more FBI involvement in this case. I won't let up until we have 'real' answers."

Attorney Michael Lopez appealed to the Aruban court that his client, who is the prime suspect in the disappearance of 35-year-old Gardner, should be set free on the grounds of lack of evidence but the authorities didn't agree.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 17, 2011, 06:32:56 PM
Thanks Grace

This is good news!!

However ... I have have a sinking feeling that justice for Robyn is not going to be realized.

Aruba went through the motions of an investigation prior to releasing Joran after only a 30 day apprehension without formal charges ... only suspicion.

Janet



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on October 17, 2011, 06:38:22 PM
With picture of Rebecca

http://crimesceneusa.blogspot.com/2011/10/swinger-my-missed-threesome-with-robyn.html

SWINGER: MY THREESOME WITH ROBYN GARDNER
Tuesday, October 11, 2011

A SELF-CONFESSED swinger says she was invited on the Aruban sex trip with missing party girl Robyn Gardner but begged off. Gary Giordano--the man suspected of orchestrating Robyn's disappearance Aug. 2--had also invited Rebecca Toring for fun and games under the sun. Now, she tells the National Enquirer she's thanking her lucky stars. She said: "I just thank God I'm still alive. Gary invited me to Aruba, and if I had gone I would probably be dead now – just like poor Robyn."

 ::snipping2::


Now that is a real sex pot!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iGbZ8H9fS88/TpQf-AtU2pI/AAAAAAAACvM/3HeiyPTXoWQ/s1600/275925_100001693359609_4109238_n.jpg)



LOL


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 17, 2011, 11:08:01 PM
Just an FYI...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/natalee.holloway.timeline/index.html

June 9, 2005 - Joran van der Sloot arrested, along with the Kalpoe brothers.

September 3, 2005 - Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers are released from detention.



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=252.0

 ::snipping2::

SUSPECTS/ARRESTEES -

Joran Andreas Petrus van der Sloot (DOB 8-6-87) born in Arnhem, Netherlands – arrested 6-9-05, released 9-3-05 by Judge R Smid , under “reasonable suspicion of murder, manslaughter or intentional containment with the dead as consequence”

 ::snipping2::
Edit to correct post per texasmom.  MB


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 17, 2011, 11:10:38 PM
Just an FYI...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/11/natalee.holloway.timeline/index.html

June 9, 2005 - Joran van der Sloot arrested, along with the Kalpoe brothers.

September 3, 2005 - Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers are released from detention.



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=252.0

 ::snipping2::

SUSPECTS/ARRESTEES -

Joran Andreas Petrus van der Sloot (DOB 8-6-87) born in Arnhem, Netherlands – arrested 6-9-05, released 9-3-05 by Judge R Smid , under “reasonable suspicion of murder, manslaughter or intentional containment with the dead as consequence”

 ::snipping2::

self edit

The Kalpoes were released and rearrested during the approximately 90 days that Joran van der Sloot remained in detention.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 17, 2011, 11:43:50 PM
http://www.awe24.com/20111017/8726/Hues_comisario_a_nenga_e_peticion_di_e_Americano_Gary_Giordano_pa_bay_den

Papiamentu translation:

judge comisario owing to deny the peticion of the americano gary giordano for bay in freedom

13 hora happen come across, 17 of october 2011 10:08

monday morning after of owing to revisa all the documentonan judge comisario owing to rechasa the peticion of gary giordano for being poni in freedom in immediate.

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8726/1_1318892814.jpg)

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8726/2_1318893137.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 17, 2011, 11:45:22 PM
Gary's still trying to keep that bald head covered!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

LIKE WE DON'T KNOW!   ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 17, 2011, 11:46:40 PM
Thank you MuffyBee!   ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::bee::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 18, 2011, 02:10:19 PM
Gary's still trying to keep that bald head covered!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

LIKE WE DON'T KNOW!   ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 18, 2011, 06:07:08 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/87909-speciale-commissie-prostitutie-san-nicolas

Google translation:

Special Committee on Prostitution San Nicolas

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18 2011 10:14

ORANGE CITY - The European Day against trafficking has also been repeated in Aruba today. With extra attention in the media, leaflets and putting up posters asking the Task Force Human Trafficking and Smuggling renewed attention to the hotline launched in April and the awareness campaign "Open your Eyes". Tomorrow starts a three-day conference and show in a press conference this morning that there is a committee formed within the task force that focuses on prostitution in San Nicolas.

According to National Coordinator for Human Trafficking and smuggling Jeanette Richardson-Perch is the committee due to the recent audit by the government in the red light district of San Nicolas. Consequently, according to her anyway of issues that may be related to trafficking or may cause. Perch says that the question whether the government is also working on prevention in the sex industry. This is because global research shows that this sector very vulnerable to trafficking. The coordinator said that the establishment of a separate committee within the task force will now be looking at the situation is particularly so in San Nicolas. Furthermore, in the countries where most prostitutes come from Colombia and Venezuela, information material. Women from these countries can therefore advance about the hotline in Aruba and what to do when they are exploited for example. Yet it remains difficult Baars says, because women often only for a short time here and in rotation on the other islands to work. Abuse also means that they will not be accepted and thus susceptible to falling income, which is significant compared to the situation in their homeland, to go wrong.


Lucrative

Because trafficking is lucrative, says the coordinator. It provides the most profitable in crime, more than drug trafficking. "If a person is operating, is about $ 250,000 a year profit," quantifies perch. Trafficking is also often associated with money laundering. This is one of the issues which the conference is to start tomorrow. Friday is also the conference entirely dedicated to the victims of child labor or courted as a victim in the sex industry. Baars: "We are in Aruba yet to do before, but that does not mean that you must be blind. If it occurs worldwide, it would be foolish to say that this is not happening. "The conference attracts by her people from abroad. All the more because it co-organized by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with a lot of expertise in that area. For although the phenomenon of trafficking and smuggling in many global knowledge, is in many professionals in police, justice and treatment still unknown what is in means and how to assist victims.

The citizens' awareness, since the government is already in April this year actively embarked on a campaign and hotline. Since then, according to perch, but also two reports to the hotline received, which also yielded no new cases. There are, however, the task force in the meantime announced two new cases, both are about possible exploitation and are now being investigated. One is a domestic help and the other one personeellid in a supermarket. The task force also gave in April to investigate high risk such as construction, supermarkets and so the sex industry. Baars: "We are still looking for someone who can perform. We try to collaborate with the University of Aruba, perhaps a student could do this. "


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 19, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
http://www.awe24.com/20111017/8726/Hues_comisario_a_nenga_e_peticion_di_e_Americano_Gary_Giordano_pa_bay_den

Papiamentu translation:

judge comisario owing to deny the peticion of the americano gary giordano for bay in freedom

13 hora happen come across, 17 of october 2011 10:08

monday morning after of owing to revisa all the documentonan judge comisario owing to rechasa the peticion of gary giordano for being poni in freedom in immediate.

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http://issuu.com/boletinextra/docs/diamars_18_oktober_2011

October 18, 2011 Solo di Pueblo Front Page

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 20, 2011, 12:21:41 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/87909-speciale-commissie-prostitutie-san-nicolas

Google translation:

Special Committee on Prostitution San Nicolas

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18 2011 10:14

ORANGE CITY - The European Day against trafficking has also been repeated in Aruba today. With extra attention in the media, leaflets and putting up posters asking the Task Force Human Trafficking and Smuggling renewed attention to the hotline launched in April and the awareness campaign "Open your Eyes". Tomorrow starts a three-day conference and show in a press conference this morning that there is a committee formed within the task force that focuses on prostitution in San Nicolas.

According to National Coordinator for Human Trafficking and smuggling Jeanette Richardson-Perch is the committee due to the recent audit by the government in the red light district of San Nicolas. Consequently, according to her anyway of issues that may be related to trafficking or may cause. Perch says that the question whether the government is also working on prevention in the sex industry. This is because global research shows that this sector very vulnerable to trafficking. The coordinator said that the establishment of a separate committee within the task force will now be looking at the situation is particularly so in San Nicolas. Furthermore, in the countries where most prostitutes come from Colombia and Venezuela, information material. Women from these countries can therefore advance about the hotline in Aruba and what to do when they are exploited for example. Yet it remains difficult Baars says, because women often only for a short time here and in rotation on the other islands to work. Abuse also means that they will not be accepted and thus susceptible to falling income, which is significant compared to the situation in their homeland, to go wrong.


Lucrative

Because trafficking is lucrative, says the coordinator. It provides the most profitable in crime, more than drug trafficking. "If a person is operating, is about $ 250,000 a year profit," quantifies perch. Trafficking is also often associated with money laundering. This is one of the issues which the conference is to start tomorrow. Friday is also the conference entirely dedicated to the victims of child labor or courted as a victim in the sex industry. Baars: "We are in Aruba yet to do before, but that does not mean that you must be blind. If it occurs worldwide, it would be foolish to say that this is not happening. "The conference attracts by her people from abroad. All the more because it co-organized by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with a lot of expertise in that area. For although the phenomenon of trafficking and smuggling in many global knowledge, is in many professionals in police, justice and treatment still unknown what is in means and how to assist victims.

The citizens' awareness, since the government is already in April this year actively embarked on a campaign and hotline. Since then, according to perch, but also two reports to the hotline received, which also yielded no new cases. There are, however, the task force in the meantime announced two new cases, both are about possible exploitation and are now being investigated. One is a domestic help and the other one personeellid in a supermarket. The task force also gave in April to investigate high risk such as construction, supermarkets and so the sex industry. Baars: "We are still looking for someone who can perform. We try to collaborate with the University of Aruba, perhaps a student could do this. "

http://www.diario.aw/2011/10/aruba-tambe-lo-duna-atencion-e-siman-aki-na-e-tema-%E2%80%9Ctrafico-ilegal-di-sernan-humano%E2%80%9D/

Papiamentu translation:

aruba also will give atencion the week here at the exercise “trafico ilegal of sernan humano”

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publication: wednesday, 19 october 2011.

categoria: general

minister arthur dowers: lema: “habri do you wowo… (Open your eyes)”

oranjestad (aan) – minister of husticia mr. arthur dowers, owing to as one conferencia of prensa tuesday morning, in sitting-room of prensa of gobierno, relaciona cu owing to atencion cu will wordo give the week here, at the exercise “traficacion ilicito of personanan”, provided that conexion cu 18 of october cu is the day cu kingdom dutch is reconoce the mature here. was present also hof inspector of kpa sra. janet richardson-baars, coordinador for aruba of the departamento contra traficacion of person in we country, y sra. mr. caroline meaux, consehero on the exercise of traficacion ilegal of person, for ministerio of husticia. minister dowers owing to cuminza for splica cu day 20 of june of the year here at sint marten all minister of husticia, of kingdom dutch, esta of the netherlands, curacao, aruba y sint maarten owing to company one protocol or carta of entendimento, where owing to word cu they will take day 18 of october for give atencion at the exercise of “traficacion ilicito of hende”. the dignatario owing to tell cu prensa is much important in the proceso of concientizacion of we comunidad for thing is deal the fenomeno of traficacion of personanan in we country.

the mandatario owing to tell cu is conoci cu at europa, on the date here, they're dedica atencion at the exercise here, y dentro of mou owing to stay word cu not only will place this on paper, y trece in prensa, but also cu will take cierto pasonan cu will have to arrive at one best constitucion y one sistema of prevencion on the fenomeno here, cu is extremely important y cu is tumando lugar mundialmente.

the dignatario owing to indica cu the pace cu aruba owing to give is extremely important for give contenido at the mou, y because; minister the wanted owing to show on the compromiso cu people of aruba have for cu the exercise here in we country y in we region.

past owing to subraya cu at instant cu past owing to company the mou past owing to compromete at haci all posible for pasonan wordo take at aruba for combati the fenomeno here, y esey owing to haci cu we country owing to achieve reconocimento of departamento of estado of merca, for her trabao cu we country is haciendo where cu the is comunica cu the other partnernan of kingdom dutch more close of aruba, cu is sint maarten y curacao, for conhuntamente march the trayectoria for percura for they also can arrive at one dado instant at the same level cu aruba owing to arrive, on combatimento of trafico of being human in we country.

according the dignatario this is one exercise cu is stay live internacionalmente, comokiera cu the is one of the violacionnan of more flagrante of the derecho fundamental of the being human y one of the formanan more denigrante for a, at instant cu they're kite his freedom for use because; esclavo y haci cosnan more denigrante for one being human.

minister dowers owing to señala cu in we country much person is tell cu this do not one mature, but according the dignatario we have to is conciente cu if can is one mature at aruba, y as we eye y oreanan open, as is wordo show in the poster of promocion, cu will wordo present the dianan here cu will enfoca on the exercise menciona, because if know happen close we also, only we do not mire all hour y much trip we do not conciente of thing we have to look at.

the mandatario owing to indica cu at the momentonan here have conferencianan at europa is tumando lugar for give more atencion at the aspecto here, already cu at instant cu departamentonan of husticia, ministerionan of husticia y cuerpo policial owing to cuminza compronde the matter they owing to cuminza achieve also various caso.

exercise central the year here is stay, naturally, combatimento of the problematica here at europa y various organizacion cu is atende cu victimanan y posible victimanan of the traficacion ilegal of person.

minister dowers owing to indica cu thing is tumando lugar at europa, where the problem is mucho more big y more big cu in we region y we country, but equal we have to give more atencion at combatimento of this, y assure con for atende cu the victimanan cu have to is central.

aruba, provided that todo caso, owing to instrui his departamento encarga cu control of ilegalidad in we country, cu have to have one protocol specifico for atende cu one person cu posiblemente owing to become victima, or cu autoridadnan is conciente cu owing to become victima of trafico of person, if have the pruebanan, the regimen for deal they're completamente various, cu the person cu simplemente owing to scoge for arrive aruba, stay ilegal, y haci cosnan in we country cu is provided that pugna cu we leynan.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 22, 2011, 12:17:43 PM
http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/october_20__2011

October 20, 2011 The Morning News

Front Page and Page 2

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 22, 2011, 04:53:04 PM
Dolf Richardson - same ol cover-up corrupt players

Robyn's loved-ones better start setting off some fires or their going to find themselves still wondering what happened to their daughter when Aruba lets Gary Giordano go free like they did Kalpoes and Joran.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 22, 2011, 07:44:10 PM
the guy in the straw hat dancing with robyn,full face kinda of in the back,mid way of center
i dont see robyn,only G and straw hat dude

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229129897128331&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=229129897128331&set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1&theater)

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I wonder who he is????



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7/31/2011 Moomba Beach Balashi Bash

This may be really reaching, but the thought crossed my mind the minute I saw him so I'm putting it out here. 

And yes, I do know it's not the same hat.

In reading about him, so many things made me go hmmmm....could it be?  ::MonkeyEek::
JMO

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

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Ricardo Antonio Reinoso Thanks, CJ, for writing this; very well said and to the point. I can never grasp fully what it is you're going through, as I can never fully put myself in your shoes. But I can tell you that as a friend of Robyn in DC, she and I were just becoming good friends, and through all that I saw more and more of how beautiful of a person she is. She has been very supportive of me and always been there to listen when I needed her, just as I am there for her now. So please let me--and everyone else know--what else it is we can do for her, you, the family, and Richard. Thank you for posting this, I know she's grateful you've been there for her, and please know my thoughts and prayers are forever with her, you, Richard, and all her family and friends.
5 hours ago · Like ·  1 person

http://www.facebook.com/musicmandc?sk=info

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Ricardo Antonio Reinoso

Basic Information

Sex   Male

Networks   
International Monetary Fund, Obama for America

Contact Information
Facebook   http://facebook.com/musicmandc

http://www.washingtonlife.com/issues/may-2008/washington_social_diary/page92.php

 ::snipping2::

Of course, if the folk-alt band thing doesn’t pan out there is always the path of internationally renowned DJ. Ricardo Antonio Reinoso founded THE DJ LAB in conjunction with the National Music Center (801 K St. NW) to offer would-be beat boys and girls, and Ibiza junkies the chance to perfect the real “art of spin.” For $250, I registered for five classes starting in mid-May. With any luck, I’ll be discovered by Deep Dish manager and fellow Contrarian Arash Shirazi. Mental note number two: Remember to buy headphones, pumas, a funky hat, and extra Carhartt t-shirts.

 ::snipping2::

http://ricardoforacure.wordpress.com/about/

About Ricardo
Posted by musicmandc.

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2010 LLS Man of the Year Candidate

Born and raised in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and one of five proud sons of Peruvian immigrants, Ricardo always strives to live the fullest life possible while empowering and inspiring those he meets along the way. Struggling early in life when stricken with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, Ricardo turned to running, basketball, and soccer as his saving graces. After becoming an Eagle Scout and graduating from high school in Tulsa, he went on to undergraduate studies at Washington University in St. Louis and studied abroad in Spain and France. After saving money working back home in Tulsa, he moved to Washington, DC, in 1996 and has ever since been an active member in the community. In DC, he has worked in the international finance arena at the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, while pursuing his passion for deejaying. He co-founded Latino-focused Radiofutura.com, Inc. (a pioneering internet-radio company in the late 90s), founded Nuvo Music and the Eden Experience (collectives of local and national artists and musicians), served as consultant to both the Winter Music Conference in Miami Beach and the National Music Center in DC, created and supervised the curriculum for the DJ Lab (a DJ school in downtown DC), co-organized various local creative events such as Pecha Kucha and X, and served as MC at the Adams Morgan Day Festival. His most recent achievement was in Florida as a staff member of President Obama’s campaign. His present-day, ongoing endeavors include filmmaking (currently as Executive Producer for Wayfinder Films’ and Stephen King’s “Flowers for Norma”), an online travel company Vida Vacations, and a social entrepreneurial project called CHEF (Creating Hope and Empowerment through Food), whose aim is to bring together local non-profits to train formerly incarcerated individuals in building and running their own restaurants here in our nation’s capital.

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http://askmissa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/mw-winter-cocktail-2011-019-2.jpg
(far right)

http://creativesdc.com/profile/RicardoReinoso
http://www.nuvomusic.com/

http://www.bisnow.com/washington_dc_the_scene_news_story.php?p=3583
(3rd picture down)

Not sure, but I think this may be him too...

http://www.fotolog.com/rreinoso/30869399



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 22, 2011, 08:32:43 PM
Dolf Richardson - same ol cover-up corrupt players

Robyn's loved-ones better start setting off some fires or their going to find themselves still wondering what happened to their daughter when Aruba lets Gary Giordano go free like they did Kalpoes and Joran.



I've been thinking the same.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 22, 2011, 09:47:39 PM
Dolf Richardson - same ol cover-up corrupt players

Robyn's loved-ones better start setting off some fires or their going to find themselves still wondering what happened to their daughter when Aruba lets Gary Giordano go free like they did Kalpoes and Joran.



Ribbit

Gary Giordano my walk and evidence collected by Aruban LE that could provide Robyn's family a measure of closure may never surface.

Janet

+++++

The last posts are taken from the e-mail that Kyle (Kingman) sent to Jug and I in December …

"I had questions which were very unsettling about what I had observed during the search including the events surrounding the trap inspection by the Aruban divers and how the samples were handled by ALE - solely Richardson."

Source:  ldstlou - Gold Monkey Forum


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 22, 2011, 11:02:29 PM
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/18327432#18327432
Robyn and Jenna

http://www.facebook.com/jenna.luise

http://www.redropedc.com/

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2119873650114&set=a.2042956527234.111764.1643978475&type=3&permPage=1

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http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1771788811396.2098715.1139540430&type=3

Shadowroom 5.27.11
By ShadowRoom Dc (Albums) · Updated about 5 months ago · Taken at Shadowroom

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Several pictures of Jenna at the link...


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 23, 2011, 12:05:26 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

Ed Spicer
Has there been a media push or posters distributed about her. I am a licensed PI who was in Aruba since 10/13 & I saw or heard nothing about her! I spoke to relatives before leaving the states offering my help Pro-Bono. I have been following the case while in the US but I found it strange to not hear anything in Aruba. Are the Aruban authorities doing anything or just blowing smoke?
Like ·  · 19 hours ago


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 23, 2011, 12:13:02 PM
So are they still seeking help from witnesses?

What about that white car?

Well I guess it wouldn't look good for tourists to see posters about an American woman that's been missing for nearly three months now would it?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 23, 2011, 12:19:03 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

Ed Spicer
Has there been a media push or posters distributed about her. I am a licensed PI who was in Aruba since 10/13 & I saw or heard nothing about her! I spoke to relatives before leaving the states offering my help Pro-Bono. I have been following the case while in the US but I found it strange to not hear anything in Aruba. Are the Aruban authorities doing anything or just blowing smoke?
Like ·  · 19 hours ago

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 23, 2011, 12:34:04 PM
http://www.oceanstatesinv.com/

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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ocean-States-Investigative-Group-LLC/113964188615252


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 23, 2011, 03:02:08 PM
https://www.dccourts.gov/cco/maincase.jsf

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 23, 2011, 03:38:02 PM
http://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/1784.htm

Summons for oral examination
A summons for oral examination is a court document saying you must attend court on a specific date to answer questions about your financial circumstances.
The creditor takes this action to get information about your income, expenses, assets and debts. This helps them decide what they can do to get the money back.

The summons
Only a creditor who has an order against you for a debt can request a summons for oral examination. The creditor will send you a summons. The summons will tell you that you must go to court on a particular day and time. You will have to answer, on oath, questions about your income, expenses, assets and debts.
You must go to the court at the time specified. If you do not go, a warrant may be issued for your arrest.
Only a creditor can cancel the oral examination. You will get a small sum of money to help with the cost of getting to court.
You must take with you any documents named on the summons, for example, bank books, bills and pay slips. Take along any evidence that may help your situation.

The oral examination
The examination usually happens in an office, not in open court. (If you did not appear at an earlier appointment, the examination may take place in open court.)
The court registrar will ask you questions about your financial circumstances. The creditor’s representative may also ask you questions. No one else can ask you questions.
See ‘Oral examination – what will I be asked?’ (link below) for the types of questions you may be asked. Take some time to work out your answers in advance.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 23, 2011, 04:14:41 PM
https://www.dccourts.gov/cco/maincase.jsf
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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11942.msg1464155#msg1464155

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=58466FL&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

Circuit Court of Maryland
Go Back
Case Information

Court System:   Circuit Court for Montgomery County - Domestic System
Case Number:   58466FL Sub Type: DOMESTIC FAMILY
Date Filed:   11/08/2006
Case Status:   CLOSED
Plaintiff Information

(Each Alias, Address, and Attorney for the Plaintiff is displayed)
Name:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Address:   1344 JEFFERSON STREET NW
WASHINGTON DC 20011
 
Attorney(s) for the Plaintiff

Name:   FORESTER, JOHN GORDON JR
Address:   1914 SUNDERLAND PLACE NW
WASHINGTON DC 20036
Phone:   202-293-3353

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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
I come from a family of trial attorneys....I believe in the legal system here in the US, just want to know if u believe his story?
Thursday at 8:32pm · Like ·  1 person


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 24, 2011, 12:54:00 AM
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ROBYN GARDNER
MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011

WHERE IS ROBYN?   ::justice2NJ:: 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 24, 2011, 01:03:52 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/10/gary-giordano-aruba-lawyer-chris-lejuez-robyn-gardner

The Prosecution 'Won't Have A Slam Dunk,' Claims Gary Giordano's Aruban Lawyer   
Posted on Oct 24, 2011 @ 04:00AM   
By Radar Staff

The prime suspect in the murder of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner is due back in court for a hearing later this week, but Gary Giordano's defense lawyer exclusively revealed that the prosecution still has a tough challenge, if he is eventually charged.

"They won’t have a slam dunk, I can assure you," Aruban defense attorney Chris Lejuez told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.

"I am not confident that he will never been charged, but I am confident that if he is that I will have a lot of things to say regarding this case," he said adamantly.

PHOTOS: Robyn Gardner And Richard Forester In Happier Times

Giordano will appear in court for a closed door hearing on Friday where the prosecution will present their argument to keep him detained longer, but as Lejuez explained, "The judge doesn’t need any new hard evidence to keep him. The bar is not set any higher to detain him.

"It is the job of us, the defense, to prepare an argument to persuade the judge not to keep him."

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 24, 2011, 01:29:53 PM
texasmom great work heh heh



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 24, 2011, 02:47:36 PM
texasmom great work heh heh



Thanks Kermit!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 24, 2011, 06:06:41 PM
http://www.dushi-curacao.info/news-aruba/giordano-opnieuw-voor-rechter.html

Google translation:

GIORDANO AGAIN RIGHT

POSTED IN NEWS ARUBA

ORANGE CITY - The American Gary Giordano (50) Monday to appear before the magistrate. It is because his detention by 60 days off. The Public Prosecutor (OM) is expected to re-apply for an extension of his detention.

Extending this time with more than 30 days. The new lawyer of the accused, Chris Lejuez, had previously hinted that he was a request for extension of detention will challenge. A request of his other lawyer, Michael Lopez, earlier this month at Giordano at liberty to get rejected by the court. The suspect sits down since August 5 when authorities arrested him as he tried to leave the country. He is suspected of involvement in the disappearance and presumed death of his companion Robyn Gardner also American (35). The case gets a lot of media attention, especially in the United States, where a comparison is drawn with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005. After a night out during her vacation in Aruba Natalee disappeared without a trace. She was last seen with Joran van der Sloot, who remains the prime suspect in this case. Joran is currently in the Peruvian prison on suspicion of killing Stephany Flores, a student who last year on May 30 in the room of Joran was found dead.


Economic impacts

By the media coverage of the disappearance case Gardner are some American journalists traveled to Aruba to this report on the matter. Similarly, radio station WTOP, which include the U.S. capital Washington to hear. Reporter Del Waters doing cursory research on the economic impact that this second disappearance on our island. He interviews including tourists, who indicate wanting to know what happened. In one of the interviews he leaves a restaurant owner to speak, and they were not to want to be named. Waters asks for the reaction when the owner learned that another American tourist went missing. "I was like, no again. We can not. "According to Waters, the island finally recovered from the effects of the Holloway disappearance. The Aruban economy by the new disappearance may be hit again. "And 70 to 80 percent for American tourists," stresses Waters.


Traceless

Gardner disappeared on Aug. 2 near Baby Beach. According to Giordano are on that day after four o'clock in the afternoon to snorkel along the sea behind the former Nanki Country Club. The pair touched by the accused in trouble by the "rough seas" and he managed with difficulty to reach land. When he learned that Gardner was not with him and he could not find her. Or so says Giordano different explanations. He hit the alarm at Rum Reef restaurant where previously they had been together at the bar, so you can see the published security images of the restaurant. Despite intensive searches, both at sea and on land, but no trace was found of Gardner. Authorities relied not the story of Giordano and kept him several days later when he tried to leave the country. Approximately two weeks later, extensive searches on land held by the police, fire and police recruits. Again, this yielded no evidence. Earlier this month, a special search dog team from the Netherlands and was flown over one week found in the coastal area where Gardner was last seen. This did not directly discoveries, but the findings shall be reported to the Public after which it will decide on further action.

Article Source:  AMIGOE


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 25, 2011, 12:29:21 AM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

Ed Spicer
Has there been a media push or posters distributed about her. I am a licensed PI who was in Aruba since 10/13 & I saw or heard nothing about her! I spoke to relatives before leaving the states offering my help Pro-Bono. I have been following the case while in the US but I found it strange to not hear anything in Aruba. Are the Aruban authorities doing anything or just blowing smoke?
Like ·  · 19 hours ago

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

Michelle Marie B I just left Aruba and have not seen one poster or picture of her there
5 hours ago · Like ·  1 person


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on October 25, 2011, 09:14:08 AM
texasmom great work heh heh



Thanks Kermit!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Texasmom........

 :2notworthy: :2notworthy: :2notworthy:

Helen



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 25, 2011, 03:12:28 PM
texasmom great work heh heh



Thanks Kermit!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Texasmom........

 :2notworthy: :2notworthy: :2notworthy:

Helen


awwww, thanks Helen!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on October 25, 2011, 05:49:36 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

Ed Spicer
Has there been a media push or posters distributed about her. I am a licensed PI who was in Aruba since 10/13 & I saw or heard nothing about her! I spoke to relatives before leaving the states offering my help Pro-Bono. I have been following the case while in the US but I found it strange to not hear anything in Aruba. Are the Aruban authorities doing anything or just blowing smoke?
Like ·  · 19 hours ago

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

Michelle Marie B I just left Aruba and have not seen one poster or picture of her there
5 hours ago · Like ·  1 person

And you probably won't. Dilma Arrends was on the boards doing everything to stop Richard Forester from posting about Robyn. Same ol tactics she did with Natalee. Someone in Holland was looking/watching Dilma.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Curly on October 26, 2011, 08:58:08 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053869/Robyn-Gardner-missing-Gary-Giordano-buried-lover-alive-Aruba-dogs-grave.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
 
Robyn Gardner was buried alive in a dog’s grave dug up by her lover who taped a plastic bag over her head, the National Enquirer claims.
The allegation is the latest sensational development in the story of the Maryland woman, 35, who vanished two months ago while on holiday with Gary Giordano in Aruba.
Authorities have been searching for her since August and Giordano, 50, is currently being held in jail as they suspect he was involved in her death.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053869/Robyn-Gardner-missing-Gary-Giordano-buried-lover-alive-Aruba-dogs-grave.html#ixzz1bwHtU2YW     ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 26, 2011, 11:35:47 PM
Thanks Curly...I read it earlier and I just hope to goodness that's not true.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 26, 2011, 11:50:16 PM
Thanks Curly...I read it earlier and I just hope to goodness that's not true.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I also read it earlier and found it to be upsetting and unbelievable.  So, if it is true, why haven't they found Robyn?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Puzzler on October 27, 2011, 11:40:20 AM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/missing-aruba-woman-robyn-gardner-buried-alive-giordano

MISSING ARUBA WOMAN BURIED ALIVE!


(snip)

IN a monstrous twist to a horrendous crime, Aruban police now believe that miss­ing Maryland beauty ROBYN GARDNER was buried alive.
 
The ENQUIRER has learned ex­clusively that authorities received an anonymous but credible phone tip that the blonde beauty was buried – while still breathing – in a dog’s grave.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Curly on October 27, 2011, 01:54:48 PM
Thanks Curly...I read it earlier and I just hope to goodness that's not true.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I think that paper is kind of like the National Enquirer and Star. Sensationalized, but you never know.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on October 27, 2011, 03:20:32 PM
Thanks Curly...I read it earlier and I just hope to goodness that's not true.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I think that paper is kind of like the National Enquirer and Star. Sensationalized, but you never know.

I think so too..I read this earlier too and am hoping that it is completely false.what a horrible death that would have been...


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on October 27, 2011, 04:16:07 PM
Thanks Curly...I read it earlier and I just hope to goodness that's not true.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I think that paper is kind of like the National Enquirer and Star. Sensationalized, but you never know.

I think so too..I read this earlier too and am hoping that it is completely false.what a horrible death that would have been...

Wow!  What a terrible story!

Sounds to me like the "source" was with Giordano.  Or did Giordano relate this info to "the source".  Or is the this from "the Aruban Police source" again.

Sounds like Baloney to me.

 ::MonkeyBike::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 27, 2011, 06:29:40 PM
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/10/gary-giordano-detention-hearing-scheduled-68409.html

Gary Giordano detention hearing scheduled

October 27, 2011 - 12:48 pm

Gary Giordano, the suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, will have a detention hearing Friday, CNN reports.

Giordano is being held on suspicion of involvement in the presumed death of 35-year-old Gardner of Frederick.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 27, 2011, 08:00:10 PM
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/10/gary-giordano-detention-hearing-scheduled-68409.html

Gary Giordano detention hearing scheduled

October 27, 2011 - 12:48 pm

Gary Giordano, the suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, will have a detention hearing Friday, CNN reports.

Giordano is being held on suspicion of involvement in the presumed death of 35-year-old Gardner of Frederick.

 ::snipping2::

What do you want to bet he's released tomorrow.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 27, 2011, 08:39:05 PM
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/10/gary-giordano-detention-hearing-scheduled-68409.html

Gary Giordano detention hearing scheduled

October 27, 2011 - 12:48 pm

Gary Giordano, the suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, will have a detention hearing Friday, CNN reports.

Giordano is being held on suspicion of involvement in the presumed death of 35-year-old Gardner of Frederick.

 ::snipping2::

What do you want to bet he's released tomorrow.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  Then it's probably good by to justice for Robyn.  But then, justice probably flew out the door even before Robyn landed in Aruba, because I think this was premeditated.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: cookie on October 27, 2011, 08:42:25 PM
God I hope that Gary is not freed! not only because he did something to this woman but because Bozo will have another feather in his cap thinking that he can boast that he also got this guy off too!!!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 27, 2011, 08:44:58 PM
God I hope that Gary is not freed! not only because he did something to this woman but because Bozo will have another feather in his cap thinking that he can boast that he also got this guy off too!!!  ::MonkeyMad::

Yep.   ::ghost2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 28, 2011, 12:27:45 AM
God I hope that Gary is not freed! not only because he did something to this woman but because Bozo will have another feather in his cap thinking that he can boast that he also got this guy off too!!!  ::MonkeyMad::

If he is freed it has nothing to do with Bozo and everything to do with the corrupt LE and prosecutors office in Aruba.  Everything is to protect tourism.  They will say there is no proof she didn't drown just like he claimed.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 28, 2011, 02:41:54 AM
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/10/gary-giordano-detention-hearing-scheduled-68409.html

Gary Giordano detention hearing scheduled

October 27, 2011 - 12:48 pm

Gary Giordano, the suspect in the disappearance of Robyn Gardner in Aruba, will have a detention hearing Friday, CNN reports.

Giordano is being held on suspicion of involvement in the presumed death of 35-year-old Gardner of Frederick.

 ::snipping2::

What do you want to bet he's released tomorrow.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I hope not, but the thought has crossed my mind.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: pharlap on October 28, 2011, 06:54:39 AM
Why in the world would anyone want to go to Aruba.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
This has to send a message, BOYCOTT Aruba period, sorry guys.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 28, 2011, 08:21:50 AM
God I hope that Gary is not freed! not only because he did something to this woman but because Bozo will have another feather in his cap thinking that he can boast that he also got this guy off too!!!  ::MonkeyMad::

If he is freed it has nothing to do with Bozo and everything to do with the corrupt LE and prosecutors office in Aruba.  Everything is to protect tourism.  They will say there is no proof she didn't drown just like he claimed.

ITA Klaas.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on October 28, 2011, 01:31:24 PM
Robyn Gardner 'buried alive in Aruba dog's grave by lover who taped plastic bag over her head'

 .Maryland womanmissing sinceAugust; presumed dead

 .Companion Gary Giordano still in jail as prime suspect

 .Source tells National Enquirer of alleged killing method

 Last updated at 9:21 PM on 26th October 2011 ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053869/Robyn-Gardner-missing-Gary-Giordano-buried-lover-alive-Aruba-dogs-grave.html


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on October 28, 2011, 01:36:15 PM
Robyn Gardner, Maryland Woman Missing in Aruba,Was Reportedly Buried Alive

 Published October 27, 2011 | FoxNews.com

 A missing Maryland woman was reportedly buried alive by her travel companion while the two were vacationing in Aruba, the National Enquirer reports.

 Police received an anonymous tip that Robyn Gardner, 35, was buried in a "dog's grave," according to the paper.

 Authorities have reportedly conducted a massive search in the area looking for the suspected grave.

 The anonymous tipster alleges that Gardner's travel companion, Gary Giordano, beat Gardner and suffocated her, the National Enquirer reports. He then allegedly tied her arms and legs, put a bag over her head and buried her in a dog's grave, according to the report.

 "He dug up a fresh dog's grave with his hands, removed the dog's body, widened the hole and put Robyn in it. He placed the dog's body on top of hers -- and covered them up," a source told the National Enquirer.  ::snipping2::

 The source alleges that Gardner began moving and moaning as he filled up the grave, according to the National Enquirer.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/27/missing-woman-in-aruba-was-reportedly-buried-alive/       




_________________


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 28, 2011, 02:12:08 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/28/justice/aruba-missing-woman/

American in missing woman case seeks release from jail
From Martin Savidge, CNN
October 28, 2011 -- Updated 1724 GMT (0124 HKT)

(CNN) -- The attorney for detained American Gary Giordano argued at a hearing Friday that his client's "life is being destroyed" and that he should be released from custody.

 ::snipping2::

According to Giordano's Aruban attorney Chris Lejuez, Friday morning's hearing lasted about and hour and a half to two hours. Lejuez said prosecutors argued for the extension of Giordano's detention, sighting the need for more time to investigate Gardner vanishing.

 ::snipping2::

Authorities say they are still following information in the United States, the Netherlands, Curacao and Aruba. They are still waiting results from the examination of cell phones and a computer. Lejuez says prosecutors also argued they need time to follow up on "points of interest" identified by search and rescue dogs that were brought in from Holland.

 ::snipping2::

Lejuez said he argued there is no need to keep Giordano locked up. He could instead be released on the condition he remain in Aruba or released under some sort of bail. Lejuez said there is "no way the damage can be undone even if his client is acquitted."

Lejuez says during the hearing it was also disclosed that DNA test results on blood on a towel showed the blood belong to Robyn Gardner.

Giordano's attorney says that is consistent with his client's statement to police that she cut her toe while coming out of the water while they were swimming. Police have denied earlier reports that Gardner's blood was found on a rock at the beach where Giordano says they went swimming.

The judge was expected to rule whether to extend Giordano's detention another 30 days or let him go free.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 28, 2011, 02:54:48 PM
If it's true, this is good news imo.   ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

 ::snipping2::

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
‎30 MORE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 28, 2011, 02:57:55 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/28/justice/aruba-missing-woman/

American in missing woman case seeks release from jail
From Martin Savidge, CNN
October 28, 2011 -- Updated 1724 GMT (0124 HKT)

(CNN) -- The attorney for detained American Gary Giordano argued at a hearing Friday that his client's "life is being destroyed" and that he should be released from custody.

 ::snipping2::

According to Giordano's Aruban attorney Chris Lejuez, Friday morning's hearing lasted about and hour and a half to two hours. Lejuez said prosecutors argued for the extension of Giordano's detention, sighting the need for more time to investigate Gardner vanishing.

 ::snipping2::

Authorities say they are still following information in the United States, the Netherlands, Curacao and Aruba. They are still waiting results from the examination of cell phones and a computer. Lejuez says prosecutors also argued they need time to follow up on "points of interest" identified by search and rescue dogs that were brought in from Holland.

 ::snipping2::

Lejuez said he argued there is no need to keep Giordano locked up. He could instead be released on the condition he remain in Aruba or released under some sort of bail. Lejuez said there is "no way the damage can be undone even if his client is acquitted."

Lejuez says during the hearing it was also disclosed that DNA test results on blood on a towel showed the blood belong to Robyn Gardner.

Giordano's attorney says that is consistent with his client's statement to police that she cut her toe while coming out of the water while they were swimming. Police have denied earlier reports that Gardner's blood was found on a rock at the beach where Giordano says they went swimming.

The judge was expected to rule whether to extend Giordano's detention another 30 days or let him go free.


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks Grace

Janet


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 28, 2011, 03:02:48 PM
alarga - (google translation) = lengthens   ::MonkeyGavel::

http://www.24ora.com/corte-mainmenu-29/38829-huez-comisario-ta-alarga-detencion-di-mericano-gvg.html

Papiamentu translation:

huez comisario is alarga detencion of mericano g.v.g.

friday, 28 october 2011 14:29

huez comisario owing to dicidi today, diabierna 28 oktober 2011, for thing is alargacion of detencion of the sospechoso g.v.g. in investigacion of desaparicion y dead of the muher mericano robyn gardner, cu the detencion of the sospechoso mericano will wordo alarga cu 30 day. in the period ultimo of detencion of 60 day investigacion amplio owing to wordo haci, among another owing to busca cu cachonan at the curpa of madam gardner y owing to haci one reconstruccion of the sucedido according declaracion of the sospechoso. the investigacion do not cla ainda; is sperando on resultadonan of several investigacion cu owing to wordo haci in exterior y of cual the resultadonan have to wordo incorpora in the investigacion for her team investigativo. he g. owing to wordo deteni on diabierna 5 of august 2011 on suspicion of involvimento in the desaparicion y dead of gardner of 35 year on 2 of august 2011. gardner will owing to, according declaracionnan of the sospechoso, stay in lama after of owing to snorkel together behind nanki country club. not despite investigacion acute for one pair of day of among another, surveillance, recherche, police maritimo, kustwacht, search and rescue, buceadornan y voluntarionan of scol of buceo jads y the usage of cachonan of buskeda, two helicopter, one plane y more boat, the curpa of gardner owing to wordo till today not achieve at lama or at costa. the sospechoso y gardner owing to arrive together of merca at aruba on 31 july 2011.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 28, 2011, 03:04:25 PM
http://arubaherald.com/court/1490-examining-magistrate-extends-detention-american-gvg.html

Examining Magistrate extends detention American G.V.G.         
Friday, 28 October 2011 14:30
 
 
Today, Friday, October 28, 2011, the judge has considered the request to extend the detention of the suspect G.V.G. in the investigation into disappearance and death of the American woman Robyn Gardner. It has been decided that the detention of the U.S. suspect will be extended with 30 days.
In the past 60 days detention period extensive research was carried out. Amongst other things, a search for the body of Mrs. Gardner was performed with sniffer dogs and a re-enactment of the facts of the incident, according to the statement G. was executed.

The investigation is still ongoing and results are still awaited of various research activities that are carried out abroad. The results of these activities will be studied by the investigative team and incorporated in the investigation.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 28, 2011, 03:12:23 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/aruba-holds-gary-giordano-30-more-days-in-robyn-gardner-disappearance/

Oct 28, 2011 3:00pm

Aruba Holds Gary Giordano 30 More Days in Robyn Gardner Disappearance
   
An Aruban judge ordered an American, Gary Giordano, held 30 more days in prison as prosecutors investigate the disappearance of a Maryland woman, Robyn Gardner.
Gardner, 35, disappeared in August while allegedly snorkeling with Giordano, a man she had met on a dating website. Giordano has been held in jail for nearly three months as prosecutors investigate his claim that Gardner drowned at sea while the pair snorkeled one evening.

Giordano has not been formally charged with a crime. A representative for the prosecutor’s office said that investigators have done extensive research during the past 60 days, including a search of the island with cadaver dogs. They have not released the results of that search or other research that has been done.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on October 28, 2011, 03:33:47 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 28, 2011, 03:45:02 PM
YW, Janet!  I guess that LE and prosecution better get their "ducks in order" in order to charge him--time is running out!

Thanks for the good news, Texasmom--30 more days for Gary to enjoy the free "hospitality" of Aruba!    ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 28, 2011, 03:55:20 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised  ::justice2NJ::

Me too!   ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Blonde on October 28, 2011, 04:05:42 PM
Aruban judge: Suspect in missing woman case must stay in custody

 updated 3:16 PM EST, Fri October 28, 2011

 (CNN) -- An Aruban judge on Friday ordered Gary Giordano to remain in custody for another 30 days as authorities continue their investigation into the disappearance and presumed death of a Maryland woman, Aruba's public prosecutor announced.

 The decision followed a court hearing earlier in the day in which Chris Lejuez, Giordano's Aruban attorney, argued that his client's "life is being destroyed" and that he should be released.

 Giordano, himself also from Maryland, was arrested August 5 "on suspicion of involvement in the disappearance and death" of his traveling companion, Robyn Gardner.

 Giordano admits taking out a $1.5 million life insurance policy on Gardner, 35, just days before they traveled to Aruba, according to Aruban investigators.

 The 50-year-old denies being responsible for the woman's disappearance, insisting that he'd been snorkeling with Gardner on August 2 when he signaled her to swim back, according to statements from the prosecutor's office. When he reached the Aruban beach, Gardner was nowhere to be found, he allegedly said.

 The woman's body has not been found.  ::snipping2::


http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/justice/aruba-missing-woman/?hpt=ju_c2


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 28, 2011, 05:47:37 PM
Aruban judge again extends Giordano detention
Friday, October 28, 2011


An Aruban judge on Friday ordered a Gaithersburg man suspected in the disappearance of a travel companion detained for an additional 30 days, according to prosecutors.

Gary Giordano, 50, has been held since Aug. 5 on suspicion that he was involved in the disappearance and presumed death of Robyn Gardner, 35, of Frederick, Md.

Mr. Giordano has not been charged with a crime.

“The investigation is still ongoing and results are still awaited of various research activities that are carried out abroad,” prosecutors said in a statement. “The results of these activities will be studied by the investigative team and incorporated in the investigation.”

<snipped>

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/28/aruban-judge-again-extends-giordano-detention/




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 28, 2011, 05:51:00 PM

THE RELEASE OF JORAN VAN DER SLOOT

90 Days Later


Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway


Page 182:  September 1 Helen calls to say the court is asking for DNA from the Kalpoes and Joran van der Sloot and that their attorneys are fighting this.  She also says the suspects are pointing the finger at one another. ....

Helen is very positive.  "It looks good that they will remain in custody" she says.  Then just three hours after she tells me this encouraging news, a devastating call comes from an AP reporter.  Paulus van der Sloot and his attorney are bragging to everyone that all three suspects are getting out day after tomorrow!.  Then all the media start calling.  I call Helen, then FBI agent Bill and the U.S. vice-consul.  None of them have this information. So we tell the media it must be a rumor.  But the word is out all over the island from the defense side that all three suspects will walk.  Four and a half hours after this announcement is made to international media by Joran's father and his defense team, the FBI calls to tell me that it is indeed true.  So the three suspects who were last seen with my daughter, and who offered multiple versions of what happened that night, will go free.   And we are the last ones to find out.

Pages 184: The opportunity to hide behind Hurricane Katrina is too inviting.  The three suspects will be released while all eyes are turned to the devastation in New Orlean.

Page 185: The last announcement I make on television is never seen.  Hurrican Katrina gives the island the cloak of cover it needs to let the suspects walk free and relieve itself of its media burden. ....

The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.

Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a resturant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust? ...

When Helen calls, I stand in a corner of the hotel room, phone to my ear, tapping my head against the wall over and over.  Tears fall hard.  "I'm done, Helen.  I'm done.  No justice for Natalee in Aruba.  I'm done."



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on October 28, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
THE RELEASE OF JORAN VAN DER SLOOT

Original Ruling Reversed

Aruba suspect’s father says son to be released
dated 9/1/2005 8:08:36 PM


<snipped>

The judge in the case issued two rulings: In the first, he agreed with prosecutors' request to extend the period of van der Sloot's pretrial detention by 30 more days.

But later Thursday, the judge issued another ruling that sided with the defense — an order to immediately suspend the execution of his earlier pretrial detention order.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9163292/


Released with Restrictions

Suspects in teen’s disappearance released
updated 9/3/2005 7:30:04 PM ET


SAINT NICOLAAS, Aruba - All three suspects in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager were released from jail Saturday in a setback for the prosecution and the biggest blow yet to Natalee Holloway’s family.

Joran van der Sloot, an 18-year-old Dutchman, and two Surinamese brothers, Satish Kalpoe, 18 and Deepak Kalpoe, 21, were released on condition they remain in Dutch territory and be available to police for questioning.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9188932/


Restrictions Lifted

Aruba court lifts curbs on three suspects in missing teen case
September 27, 2005


“An Aruban court has ruled that three suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway can remain free without conditions.”

“Wednesday's ruling overturned an earlier decision that restricted the suspects' travel and required them to remain available to investigators. The appeals court said there was a "lack of sufficient grounds and serious suspicions" to keep the restrictions on the three men. Joran van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers -- Deepak and Satish Kalpoe -- are suspects in the May 30 disappearance of the Alabama teen. They were released from jail on September 3rd on the condition they remain available for questioning.

<snipped>

http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=3857796&nav=0RdEeaxB

s.t.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 28, 2011, 06:15:17 PM
http://www.awe24.com/20111028/8828/Hues_a_bolbe_prolonga_detencion_di_Gary_Giordano_sospecha_di_ta_envolvi_den

Papiamentu translation:

judge owing to go back prolonga detencion of gary giordano sospecha of is envolvi in desaparicion of lady americano

6 hora happen come across, 28 of october 2011 11:23

diabierna morning owing to go back present fast judge for so take one desicion if is follow prolonga or is suspende detencion of gary giordano sospecha of is envolvi in the caso of desaparicion of the lady americano robyn lynn gardner. at the ocasion here also was have presencia of prensa internacional.

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8828/2_1319838903.jpg)

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8828/3_1319838904.jpg)

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/8828/4_1319838905.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 28, 2011, 09:04:05 PM
YW, Janet!  I guess that LE and prosecution better get their "ducks in order" in order to charge him--time is running out!

Thanks for the good news, Texasmom--30 more days for Gary to enjoy the free "hospitality" of Aruba!    ::MonkeyGavel::


YW, grace-land!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 28, 2011, 09:12:21 PM
Older article, I'd missed this fact...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/gary-giordano-casey-anthony-lawyer-jose-baez-joke-says-robyn-gardner-boyfriend

Gary Giordano Hiring Casey Anthony's Lawyer 'Is A Joke,' Says Missing Woman's Boyfriend
 
Posted on Sep 14, 2011 @ 07:00PM   print it send it

Splash News
By Radar Staff

As the investigation into the disappearance of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner continues in Aruba, her boyfriend calls the hiring of Casey Anthony 's lead attorney Jose Baez to help murder suspect Gary Giordano, "a publicity stunt."

"Of all the lawyers in the world, they got Casey Anthony's?" Richard Forester marveled in an exclusive interview with RadarOnline.com. "They could have gotten anyone. There are thousands of lawyers out there better than him."

"It's a publicity stunt to bring more attention to Baez. This guy doesn't even have a license to practise in Aruba," explained Forester, who is not a lawyer but said he has an understanding of the legal system because his father was a litigating trial lawyer for 48 years in Washington D.C.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 28, 2011, 09:14:01 PM
Older article, I'd missed this fact...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/gary-giordano-casey-anthony-lawyer-jose-baez-joke-says-robyn-gardner-boyfriend

Gary Giordano Hiring Casey Anthony's Lawyer 'Is A Joke,' Says Missing Woman's Boyfriend
 
Posted on Sep 14, 2011 @ 07:00PM   print it send it

Splash News
By Radar Staff

As the investigation into the disappearance of missing Maryland woman Robyn Gardner continues in Aruba, her boyfriend calls the hiring of Casey Anthony 's lead attorney Jose Baez to help murder suspect Gary Giordano, "a publicity stunt."

"Of all the lawyers in the world, they got Casey Anthony's?" Richard Forester marveled in an exclusive interview with RadarOnline.com. "They could have gotten anyone. There are thousands of lawyers out there better than him."

"It's a publicity stunt to bring more attention to Baez. This guy doesn't even have a license to practise in Aruba," explained Forester, who is not a lawyer but said he has an understanding of the legal system because his father was a litigating trial lawyer for 48 years in Washington D.C.

 ::snipping2::

Maybe it's an oldie article, but it's a goodie.   ::piggy::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: SurfCity on October 29, 2011, 12:01:42 PM
 ::snipping2::
Robyn Gardner's Blood Found On Towel, Lawyer Discloses After Gary Giordano Hearing
 ::snipping2::
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/29/robyn-gardner-blood-towel_n_1065041.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C108468


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Sister on October 29, 2011, 02:15:43 PM
::snipping2::
Robyn Gardner's Blood Found On Towel, Lawyer Discloses After Gary Giordano Hearing
 ::snipping2::
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/29/robyn-gardner-blood-towel_n_1065041.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C108468
I had read that today too, SurfCity (and welcome!).  It had been indicated previously, but not in such a straight forward way.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 29, 2011, 06:25:50 PM
Tax liens...

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=206302V&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=72961F&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=42493F&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

same address...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11942.msg1464160#msg1464160


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 29, 2011, 08:39:16 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC (http://twitter.com/#!/recruiterDC)

recruiterDC Richard Forester
@finnygo xxx.xxx.xxxx (edited out phone number) Live the 4th bro! I'm on HLN tonight live at 7...Jane Velez Mitchell.
28 Oct
 ::snipping2::
recruiterDC Richard Forester
#robyngardner #missinginaruba lots to say tonight on HLN 7pm eastern. Hope they give me enough time to get it all out!
28 Oct
 ::snipping2::
recruiterDC Richard Forester
RT #HLN on #Jane Velez Mitchell tonight 7 pm eastern live. #robyngardner #missinginaruba #garygiordano
28 Oct
 ::snipping2::



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/28/ijvm.01.html

ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

Police Interview with Baby Lisa`s Brothers Canceled; Search Continues for Missing American in Aruba

Aired October 28, 2011 - 19:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

 ::snipping2::

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The last person to see a missing American woman in Aruba may get out of jail. This time Gary Giordano...

RICHARD FORESTER, ROBYN`S BOYFRIEND ( JMO, I don't think Richard said this...iirc maybe Jose Baez?): Robyn was still alive, she would have turned up by now. She would have presented herself, and Gary wouldn`t be going through this.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I actually went snorkeling where Robyn Gardner disappeared.

FORESTER: I`d like them to get the information from Gary and say where she is and bring her home. He was the last one with her. I think that makes him a direct connection to the case. I think that he`s the key to it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Bad day in court tonight for the prime suspect in the case of the American woman missing in Aruba, the judge ruling Gary Giordano will spend 30 more days in jail. He was the last person to see beautiful Robyn Gardner alive nearly three months ago. He claims they went snorkeling and that Robyn was swept out to sea. A lot of skepticism among other people, including her friends and family.

At the hearing, Gary Giordano told the judge, "I am innocent."

In a surprising twist today, it was revealed in court that cops found a towel with blood belonging to Robyn Gardner. Oh, that is so scary. But Gary Giordano`s attorney, Jose Baez of Casey Anthony fame, says this suspect is being treated unfairly.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOSE BAEZ, ATTORNEY FOR GARY GIORDANO: Basically, what happened with the Natalee Holloway case and how Aruba was, the Aruban police were criticized vastly as well as the prosecution. They`re taking it out on Gary.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Here EXCLUSIVELY tonight, Richard Forester, Robyn Gardner`s boyfriend.

Your girlfriend is missing. Jose Baez, the attorney of the suspect, is saying, "Oh, they bungled the Natalee Holloway case and now, they`re trying to take it out on Gary Giordano." I want to get your reaction to that claim.

FORESTER: I think that`s ridiculous. I mean, there`s no connection to the two. Who he has representing her -- him, is really of no importance to me whatsoever.

What I`ve said along -- the whole time is the important thing is finding her. All the attention is on Gary Giordano right now and building the case. Well, you know what? He`s in jail right now. He`s going to be in jail. He`s in prison, good. Let him stay there for another 30 days. Let him stay there for another 30 days after there. Let`s find Robyn.

I fought for two months to get dogs in there to Aruba, search and rescue, scent dogs. For two months I`ve fought to get them in there and was denied. I fought to get them in there at my cost. Not at the Arubans` cost. Finally, they bring them in, and of course, they don`t find anything.

Honestly, my opinion, I don`t think she`s on the island. I think that they`re -- you know, they follow where the evidence leads them. And I don`t know what evidence they have, but I don`t think she`s on that island. I think she was taken off the island, and I think something that seriously needs to be considered at this point is human trafficking. I know she doesn`t really meet the criteria because of her age, but it goes on in that world.

I`ve spent countless hours and hours researching, talking to people, and I`ve found out a lot of incredible information that just blows me away. And I think that they need to look at that. I`ve brought that up to them, and it just gets debunked right away. I think, you know, the...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Very briefly. Very briefly, you wanted to respond to the horrific "National Enquirer" report claiming that Robyn might have been buried alive.

FORESTER: Yes. Yes, I mean, the "National Enquirer" has made several different reports that are all incredibly false. First of all, they showed pictures -- false pictures of the two of them fighting. It wasn`t Robyn. It wasn`t Gary Giordano. Secondly, yesterday...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`ve got to leave it there, Richard. We`re going to keep this case alive.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on October 29, 2011, 09:37:40 PM
http://www.gazette.net/article/20111028/NEWS/710289468/1022/gaithersburg-man-to-remain-in-jail-past-thanksgiving&template=gazette

Friday, October 28, 2011
Aruba prosecutors deny Enquirer’s claim that witness saw Frederick woman abused
Police searched dog graves because it is a place where bodies could be hidden
by Jen Bondeson, Staff Writer

Police dogs sniffed atop animal graves in southern Aruba about a month ago for the remains of Robyn Gardner, but not for reasons that The National Enquirer is reporting, according to Taco Stein, spokesman for the Office of the Public Prosecutor in Aruba.

Gardner, of Frederick, went missing on the island Aug. 2.

Police searched the area not because witnesses reported that they saw Gardner abused there, as The National Enquirer is reporting this week, but because “it is an area that one could get rid of a body,” Stein said Friday.

 ::snipping2::

Investigation continues
Lejuez said Giordano should be released.

He has been interrogated by police 12 times in his nearly three months in jail, but does not change his story, Lejuez said.

 ::snipping2::

“First,” he said,”They said he killed her and stashed her in a cave or somewhere ... He is a tourist. He wouldn’t be able to find a place to stash a body that quickly.”

Police have also searched for an accomplice — for a crime that didn’t occur, Lejuez said.

Prosecutors have found out some new information from investigations performed with help from the FBI and a specialized crime unit in Curacao, Stein said.

After requesting a 60-day detention extension for Giordano in August, investigators used police dogs, the National Police, the Maritime Police, the Coast Guard, search-and-rescue divers and volunteers of JASDS Dive, as well as two helicopters, an airplane and several boats to search for Gardner.

Investigators also re-enacted the story Giordano provided to police about the day Gardner went missing.

Investigators decrypted Giordano’s iPad and computer, but have not yet had the time to go through the several gigabytes of information, Stein said.

They are waiting for information from his Blackberry and camera to be analyzed.

Prosecutors found blood on a hotel towel on the beach where Giordano says the couple was snorkeling, and matched the blood to Gardner’s DNA, Stein said.

Lejuez said that fits with Giordano’s story that Gardner scraped her foot on a rock while they were on the shore.

The prosecution won’t be able to dispute that claim, without a foot or a body, Stein said.

After this 30-day extension ends, prosecutors could request that Giordano stay in jail an additional 30 days. After that, he will go to trial.

During his trial, a judge could decide to hear his case at a later time, and could decide that Giordano should remain in jail until the next trial, Stein said.


 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 30, 2011, 01:20:35 PM
http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

October 29, 2011 Awe Mainta Page 4

 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10292011_AweMainta_Pg4.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on October 31, 2011, 03:01:05 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011_RobynGardner.jpg)


ROBYN GARDNER
MISSING IN ARUBA SINCE AUGUST 2, 2011

WHERE IS ROBYN?   ::justice2NJ:: 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Curly on October 31, 2011, 03:46:35 PM
http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/robyn-gardner-the-boyfriend-left-behind-for-perhaps-good-reason/
 ::snipping2::

Robyn Gardner: The Boyfriend Left Behind (For Perhaps Good Reason)

It has now been nearly 3 months since Robyn Gardner vanished on the Caribbean isle of Aruba. The prime suspect in the investigation, Gary Giordano, has just been extended his stay another 30 days as Aruban authorities continue their investigation into the disappearance and presumed death of the Maryland woman.

I was first approached the eve of Aug. 12th to officially accept this case investigation by the very publicly-declared boyfriend of Robyn Gardner, Richard Forester.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 01, 2011, 11:25:35 PM
http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/robyn-gardner-the-boyfriend-left-behind-for-perhaps-good-reason/
 ::snipping2::

Robyn Gardner: The Boyfriend Left Behind (For Perhaps Good Reason)

It has now been nearly 3 months since Robyn Gardner vanished on the Caribbean isle of Aruba. The prime suspect in the investigation, Gary Giordano, has just been extended his stay another 30 days as Aruban authorities continue their investigation into the disappearance and presumed death of the Maryland woman.

I was first approached the eve of Aug. 12th to officially accept this case investigation by the very publicly-declared boyfriend of Robyn Gardner, Richard Forester.

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980690908

 
Robyn Gardner Police Update; Aruba Dog Grave Rumor Untrue
October 31, 2011 06:25 AM EDT

::snipping2::

Where is Robyn Gardner?

If Robyn wasn't beaten and then buried, half-alive, in a dog grave, then where the hell is she? Gary Giordano has maintained his claims of innocence since day one, even though surveillance footage shows him violently arguing and shoving the blonde Maryland woman into an elevator just hours before she was reported missing.

Who is Richard Forester?

Richard Forester is the "boyfriend" of the missing Maryland woman you're currently reading about. Only Robyn Gardner was apparently in the process of dumping the guy. World-famous psychic Carla Baron was in correspondance with Richard in the earlier stages of this missing persons investigation, but it appears that this relationship has gone sour. Carla Baron shares her experiences with Richard Forester and his increasingly unpleasant personality, as well as correspondance with those close to him, on her blog. It's apparent as time goes by, the former boyfriend of the missing woman has revealed himself to be possibly as shady of a character as Gary Giordano.

Perhaps Richard Forester would like to offer his input?



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 01, 2011, 11:35:40 PM
I seriously doubt RF will add his input...he's too busy fundraising.

What he's actually fundraising for, that's the question.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

JMO




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 02, 2011, 02:17:42 AM
I seriously doubt RF will add his input...he's too busy fundraising.

What he's actually fundraising for, that's the question.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

JMO





Ditto!!!!!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 02, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
Fund raising for what?

hinky meter!

Richard Forester was involved with a woman who swapped partners for sex.
Are the other guys going to fund raise too?



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 02, 2011, 04:11:51 PM
Tax liens...

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=206302V&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=72961F&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=42493F&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI

same address...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11942.msg1464160#msg1464160

Holy Mackeral!!!!


Note: Initial Sort is by Last Name. Sorting by other columns is available by clicking on the desired column header. Secondary sort is always Case Number.     (0.033 seconds)
Case Number
Name
Date of Birth
Party Type
Court
Case Type
Case Status
Filing Date
Case Caption
060100102162007   Forester, Richard A.      Defendant   Rockville District Court   CONT   Closed   05/03/2007   
060200218712009   Forester, Richard A.      Defendant   Silver Spring District Court 02   REPL   Closed   08/04/2009   
00077006D6   Forester, Richard A      Defendant   Rockville District Court   CR   Closed   10/21/1992   
2D00188911   Forester, Richard A   05/1970   Defendant   Rockville District Court   CR   Closed   12/16/2006   
58466FL   Forester, Richard A      Plaintiff   Montgomery County Circuit Court   DOMESTIC   CLOSED   11/08/2006



:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Address:   1344 JEFFERSON STREET NW
WASHINGTON DC 20011
 
Attorney(s) for the Plaintiff

Name:   FORESTER, JOHN GORDON JR

Address:   1914 SUNDERLAND PLACE NW
WASHINGTON DC 20036
Phone:   202-293-3353




050200117172002   Forester, John Gordon Jr      Attorney   Upper Marlboro District Court   CONT   Closed   04/08/2002   
060200262602001   Forester, John Gordon Jr      Attorney   Silver Spring District Court 02   CONT   Closed   11/28/2001   
316413V   Forester, John Gordon Jr      Attorney   Montgomery County Circuit Court   CIVIL   CLOSED   07/07/2009   
351073V   Forester, John Gordon Jr      Attorney   Montgomery County Circuit Court   CIVIL   OPEN   08/17/2011   
58466FL   Forester, John Gordon Jr      Attorney   Montgomery County Circuit Court   DOMESTIC   CLOSED   11/08/2006   
No Electronic Record Exists or Case Not Subject to Electronic Inspection            


(EDUCATION RESOURCES INSTITUTE INC) Vs:(FORESTER, GEORGINA )
http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=060200262602001&loc=24&detailLoc=DSCIVIL


(Each Judgment is displayed separately.)
Date:   12/02/2010 Amount: $19,000.00   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Date:   12/02/2010 Amount: $43,318.83   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Date:   12/02/2010 Amount: $6,500.00   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Date:   12/02/2010 Amount: $2,568.72   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Date:   12/02/2010 Amount: $4,370.78   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Date:   12/02/2010 Amount: $1,512.50   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Date:   12/02/2010 Amount: $19,885.00   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Date:   12/02/2010 Amount: $6,300.00   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Date:   04/01/2011 Amount: $250.00   Entered
Debtor:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=58466FL&loc=68&detailLoc=MCCI


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 03, 2011, 08:04:34 PM
Is this the same guy who was Robyn's bf?

Death by Due Process [Paperback]
John Gordon, Jr. Forester (Author)
Death comes quickly in the Georgia judicial system for a young black man accused of rape and murder of a pregnant white female.
http://www.amazon.ca/Death-Process-John-Gordon-Forester/dp/1598007866/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1

Mods please remove - different guy. 

WAIT I guess its his father who wrote the book about a female dying. whoa, interesting............. (Sorry, removed the post at your request already, but monkeys can still read the quoted one, right?!  MB



   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Address:   1344 JEFFERSON STREET NW
WASHINGTON DC 20011
 
Attorney(s) for the Plaintiff

Name:   FORESTER, JOHN GORDON JR
Address:   1914 SUNDERLAND PLACE NW
WASHINGTON DC 20036
Phone:   202-293-3353


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 03, 2011, 08:11:21 PM
These are some comments made by "CJ" Christina Jones, who actually WENT TO ARUBA and looked for her friend Robyn...before another admin on the page came in and erased them. 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJB01.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJB02.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJB03.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJB04a.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJB05.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJB06.jpg)


Sorry, didn't take the time to even up my screen shots! 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 03, 2011, 08:25:47 PM
Another comment by CJ...now erased. 

CJ = Robyn's roommate that actually went to Aruba searching for her!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJ01a.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 03, 2011, 08:31:47 PM
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/448/observerincostume.jpg)
I recognize JIM DILLARD from Aruba posts.

 ::DancingSantaMonkey1::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 03, 2011, 08:38:19 PM
CARLA I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS

Jim Dillard Wow I lost count at all the wrong information that is being posted..I thought this page was for Robyn Gardner? What is the motive here to divide everyone and to bring negativity time and time again? Who has the right to declare Robyn dead and to give her stuff to a battered womans shelter? Then praise the investigation that she knows nothing about and tell everyone a bunch of misinformation..Then to buddy up with a known con artist psychic that is trying to ruin everything here and any money that is being sent to help find Robyn. Yeh fake psychic lies are much better then bloodhounds? I'M so sick of the agenda's of trying to ruin people and taking the focus off of finding Robyn..
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall



Jim Dillard: John your terribly misinformed and clueless. You just want to get in Cj'S pants. And your quotes of wisdom do nothing in searching for Robyn Gardner. Who is genuine? Maybe you should take a long hard look at that question and who is doing everything they can to find her. The games being played here and the lies being spread don't fool me one bit. This page is for Robyn..If you aren't here to help find her and would rather slander,lie and distract from our goal in finding her..Get the F out!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall



Jim Dillard Sorry not RF and I'M not little..He just jumped on a airplane and this sprung up..Coincidence?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 03, 2011, 08:41:47 PM
More deleted posts:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJA01.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJA02a.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/Help%20Find%20Robyn%20FB%2011032011/11032011_FBCJA03.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 03, 2011, 08:50:10 PM
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/448/observerincostume.jpg)
I recognize JIM DILLARD from Aruba posts.

 ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

 ::hohohosanta:: ::snowmanlaugh::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on November 03, 2011, 11:55:58 PM
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/448/observerincostume.jpg)
I recognize JIM DILLARD from Aruba posts.

 ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

 ::hohohosanta:: ::snowmanlaugh::


Isn't that our old Administrator.....Ob----er? ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 04, 2011, 12:12:17 AM
Omg Kerm!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 04, 2011, 01:24:27 AM
Wise man  ::justice2NJ::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Picture1-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on November 05, 2011, 12:31:02 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/robyn-gardner-fundraising-page-scrutiny-ignorant-people-boyfriend

Robyn Gardner Fundraising Page Sparks 'Scrutiny From Ignorant People,' Says Her BoyfriendRobyn Gardner Fundraising Page Sparks 'Scrutiny From Ignorant People,' Says Her Boyfriend 
Posted on Nov 05, 2011 @ 03:00AM 
APBy Radar Staff

 ::snipping2::

"I'm trying to raise money for searches, reward money, private investigators, and whatever resources we need to expand the search," Richard Forester tells RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.

 ::snipping2::

The Robyn Gardner Foundation page raised $1236 in its first few days but has garnered as much criticism as it has donations so far.

"I would certainly like to see more donations," said Forester, who admitted that he thinks some people aren't giving money as they agree with the Aruban authorities that Robyn is most likely dead.

PHOTOS: Celebs Who Have Done Jail Time

"I believe she is alive and it is a shame that some of her friends may not think that," he explained.

Others have accused the boyfriend she left behind of simply trying to boost his own bank account.

PHOTOS: Celebs Involved In Murder

"I’m getting a lot of scrutiny from ignorant people who are saying I’m using it for myself. It is illegal to use funds for my own gain, it would land me in prison!

"I am so shocked by the negativity, it hurts that I'm under such suspicion," Forester adamantly told Radar."I'm not making a salary and it’s not for me to have a slush fund."

PHOTOS: Celebrities Who Died In Bizarre Circumstances

One critic who has been personally attacking Richard online is a psychic who approached him soon after Robyn went missing on August 2.

" I wouldn’t let her be attached to the case.  She calls herself a world renowned psychic detective, she’s just posting toxic information," he explained.

Forester is more concerned about getting positive feedback from Robyn's family, who have been very supportive of his efforts.

"Robyn's 21-year-old brother, Andrew, has taken all this hard, he’s sad and scared as he was very close to her. He has just graduated from college and wants his big sister back," he explained.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 05, 2011, 02:00:07 PM
http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/UCC-Charter/searchByName_a.aspx?mode=name

(D14343172)   THE ROBYN GARDNER FOUNDATION, INC.

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/UCC-Charter/DisplayEntity_b.aspx?EntityID=D14343172&EntityName=THE+ROBYN+GARDNER+FOUNDATION%2c+INC.&TabNum=1

Maryland Department of Assessments and Taxation

Taxpayer Services Division
301 West Preston Street  Baltimore, MD 21201   (2007 vw3.1)

Taxpayer Services Division

Entity Name: THE ROBYN GARDNER FOUNDATION, INC.
Dept ID #: D14343172

General Information   
Amendments
Personal Property
Certificate of Status
      
Principal Office (Current):   
8807 RUSTBURG CIRCLE
MONTGOMERY CIRCLE, MD 20886

Resident Agent (Current):   
JOHN GORDON FORESTER, JR.
8511 IVORYTON WAY
MONTGOMERY VILLAGE, MD 20887

Status:   INCORPORATED

Good Standing:   Yes

Business Code:   Ordinary Business - Non-stock

Date of Formation or Registration:   10/12/2011

State of Formation:   MD

Stock/Nonstock:   Non-Stock

Close/Not Close:   Not Close

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/UCC-Charter/DisplayEntity_b.aspx?EntityID=D14343172&EntityName=THE+ROBYN+GARDNER+FOUNDATION%2c+INC.&TabNum=3

Mailing Address
THE ROBYN GARDNER FOUNDATION, INC.
8807 RUSTBURG CIRCLE
MONTGOMERY CIRCLE, MD 20886


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11942.msg1464159#msg1464159
 ::snipping2::
Quote
Defendant Name:   FORESTER, RICHARD A
Race:   WHITE, CAUCASIAN, ASIATIC INDIAN, ARAB
Sex:   MHeight:508Weight:170DOB:05/02/1970
Address:   8807 RUSTBURG CIR
City:   MONTGOMERY VILLAGEState:MDZip Code:20886 - 0000

Charge and Disposition Information





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 05, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
So the foundation is in the dads name?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 05, 2011, 02:16:18 PM
http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/UCC-Charter/ViewDoc.asp?Film=&Folio=&Pages=0003&Date=10%2012%202011&Ack=1000362002402305&Domain=Charter&ID=D14343172&Name=THE%20ROBYN%20GARDNER%20FOUNDATION,%20INC.&source=1

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10122011_RGfoundation_Doc01.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10122011_RGfoundation_Doc02.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10122011_RGfoundation_Doc03.jpg)

The document is very hard to read, so here's a link to the same (blank) form that was submitted.

http://www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/ex_corp_form.pdf


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 05, 2011, 02:17:21 PM
So the foundation is in the dads name?

If I understand correctly, the dad is the "registered agent"; the principal address is Richard Forester's.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 05, 2011, 03:23:30 PM
ANYONE CAN FILE

NOT EVERY TAX FREE FOUNDATION IS APPROVED

SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET APPROVAL

OTHER THAN FILING THE FORM, NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS FOUNDATION IS ON THE "UP AND UP"


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 05, 2011, 03:24:04 PM
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-file-for-taxexempt-status-for-your-foundati.html (http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-file-for-taxexempt-status-for-your-foundati.html)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 05, 2011, 03:25:43 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/robyn-gardner-fundraising-page-scrutiny-ignorant-people-boyfriend

Robyn Gardner Fundraising Page Sparks 'Scrutiny From Ignorant People,' Says Her BoyfriendRobyn Gardner Fundraising Page Sparks 'Scrutiny From Ignorant People,' Says Her Boyfriend 
Posted on Nov 05, 2011 @ 03:00AM 
APBy Radar Staff

 ::snipping2::

"I'm trying to raise money for searches, reward money, private investigators, and whatever resources we need to expand the search," Richard Forester tells RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.

 ::snipping2::

The Robyn Gardner Foundation page raised $1236 in its first few days but has garnered as much criticism as it has donations so far.

"I would certainly like to see more donations," said Forester, who admitted that he thinks some people aren't giving money as they agree with the Aruban authorities that Robyn is most likely dead.

PHOTOS: Celebs Who Have Done Jail Time

"I believe she is alive and it is a shame that some of her friends may not think that," he explained.

Others have accused the boyfriend she left behind of simply trying to boost his own bank account.

PHOTOS: Celebs Involved In Murder

"I’m getting a lot of scrutiny from ignorant people who are saying I’m using it for myself. It is illegal to use funds for my own gain, it would land me in prison!

"I am so shocked by the negativity, it hurts that I'm under such suspicion," Forester adamantly told Radar."I'm not making a salary and it’s not for me to have a slush fund."

PHOTOS: Celebrities Who Died In Bizarre Circumstances

One critic who has been personally attacking Richard online is a psychic who approached him soon after Robyn went missing on August 2.

" I wouldn’t let her be attached to the case.  She calls herself a world renowned psychic detective, she’s just posting toxic information," he explained.

Forester is more concerned about getting positive feedback from Robyn's family, who have been very supportive of his efforts.

"Robyn's 21-year-old brother, Andrew, has taken all this hard, he’s sad and scared as he was very close to her. He has just graduated from college and wants his big sister back," he explained.

 ::snipping2::


More LIES!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

(http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/14.JPG)





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 05, 2011, 03:26:56 PM
ANYONE CAN FILE

NOT EVERY TAX FREE FOUNDATION IS APPROVED

SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET APPROVAL

OTHER THAN FILING THE FORM, NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS FOUNDATION IS ON THE "UP AND UP"

ITA   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 05, 2011, 03:47:15 PM
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/robyn-gardner-fundraising-page-scrutiny-ignorant-people-boyfriend

Robyn Gardner Fundraising Page Sparks 'Scrutiny From Ignorant People,' Says Her BoyfriendRobyn Gardner Fundraising Page Sparks 'Scrutiny From Ignorant People,' Says Her Boyfriend 
Posted on Nov 05, 2011 @ 03:00AM 
APBy Radar Staff

 ::snipping2::

"I'm trying to raise money for searches, reward money, private investigators, and whatever resources we need to expand the search," Richard Forester tells RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.

 ::snipping2::

The Robyn Gardner Foundation page raised $1236 in its first few days but has garnered as much criticism as it has donations so far.

"I would certainly like to see more donations," said Forester, who admitted that he thinks some people aren't giving money as they agree with the Aruban authorities that Robyn is most likely dead.

PHOTOS: Celebs Who Have Done Jail Time

"I believe she is alive and it is a shame that some of her friends may not think that," he explained.

Others have accused the boyfriend she left behind of simply trying to boost his own bank account.

PHOTOS: Celebs Involved In Murder

"I’m getting a lot of scrutiny from ignorant people who are saying I’m using it for myself. It is illegal to use funds for my own gain, it would land me in prison!

"I am so shocked by the negativity, it hurts that I'm under such suspicion," Forester adamantly told Radar."I'm not making a salary and it’s not for me to have a slush fund."

PHOTOS: Celebrities Who Died In Bizarre Circumstances

One critic who has been personally attacking Richard online is a psychic who approached him soon after Robyn went missing on August 2.

" I wouldn’t let her be attached to the case.  She calls herself a world renowned psychic detective, she’s just posting toxic information," he explained.

Forester is more concerned about getting positive feedback from Robyn's family, who have been very supportive of his efforts.

"Robyn's 21-year-old brother, Andrew, has taken all this hard, he’s sad and scared as he was very close to her. He has just graduated from college and wants his big sister back," he explained.

 ::snipping2::


More LIES!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

(http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/14.JPG)


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

 ::snipping2::

Carla Baron Just sent this note off to RadarOnline:
_______________________________________

"Your latest article is highly INACCURATE.

I did not contact Richard Forester first. He originally contacted me when he posted on my official Facebook fan page Aug 12th, 2011.

http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/14.JPG 

Please correct this gross error in your latest article and check your facts before publishing.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/robyn-gardner-fundraising-page-scrutiny-ignorant-people-boyfriend

Thank you,

- Carla Baron"


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 05, 2011, 03:50:31 PM
Richard Forester
We are up and running. Please help in any way you can. If you cannot donate, thats's okay...maybe you can share this on Facebook or Twitter, or even email the link to your friends that may be interested in helping bring Robyn home. All donations will be tax deductable and it's for a great cause! Thank you
http://www.facebook.com/richard.forester1


Roxy Balance
‎$1,236 has been raised!! That is amazing!! Thank you all for your support!! Bless your hearts always! Let's keep this going guys! This is for a GREAT cause! Richard, Reece, CJ and loved ones, you are all doing a wonderful job and I truly admire your hard work. Thank you for keeping us posted with news about Robyn and for always responding to our questions. God bless you all, and I will continue to pray with every inch of my heart. ♥
http://www.facebook.com/richard.forester1
Richard Forester and 2 others like this.







Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 05, 2011, 03:51:53 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

 ::snipping2::

Carla Baron http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/13.JPG
56 minutes ago · Like

(http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/13.JPG)

Carla Baron http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/9.JPG
47 minutes ago · Like

(http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/9.JPG)

Carla Baron http://www.carlabaron.net/RF_file/7.JPG
40 minutes ago · Like

(http://www.carlabaron.net/RF_file/7.JPG)

Carla Baron http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979984796
30 minutes ago · Like


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 05, 2011, 06:46:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall)



(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6048/6316517404_c83e2a8d81.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 05, 2011, 08:08:52 PM
Richard Forester
We are up and running. Please help in any way you can. If you cannot donate, thats's okay...maybe you can share this on Facebook or Twitter, or even email the link to your friends that may be interested in helping bring Robyn home. All donations will be tax deductable and it's for a great cause! Thank you
http://www.facebook.com/richard.forester1


Roxy Balance
‎$1,236 has been raised!! That is amazing!! Thank you all for your support!! Bless your hearts always! Let's keep this going guys! This is for a GREAT cause! Richard, Reece, CJ and loved ones, you are all doing a wonderful job and I truly admire your hard work. Thank you for keeping us posted with news about Robyn and for always responding to our questions. God bless you all, and I will continue to pray with every inch of my heart. ♥
http://www.facebook.com/richard.forester1
Richard Forester and 2 others like this.



Well let's see...

http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/UCC-Charter/ViewDoc.asp?Film=&Folio=&Pages=0003&Date=10%2012%202011&Ack=1000362002402305&Domain=Charter&ID=D14343172&Name=THE%20ROBYN%20GARDNER%20FOUNDATION,%20INC.&source=1

$2060.00 (LegalZoom?)
$  267.00 (Filing Fee)

Those expenses alone, he needs a little over another thousand dollars donated just to break even.

Something tells me he's already chalked up many more expenses as well.  jmo

Wonder who will end up paying for that flight he took?

He doesn't like being questioned?  Well he'd better get used to it.

Calling everyone that questions him "ignorant" won't be very conducive to raising those funds now will it?

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/robyn-gardner-fundraising-page-scrutiny-ignorant-people-boyfriend

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

JMO


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 12:09:18 AM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek::

Christina Jones aka Sophia Parnachelli

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11052011_CarlaBaron_REChristinaJones.jpg)

http://www.modelmayhem.com/29209

http://www.myspace.com/sophiaparnachelli

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson185.htm



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 12:16:58 AM
Please tell me we're not going to find a model or pimp mayhem profile for Richard too!

If we do, I'm NOT looking!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Someone MAKE IT STOP!   ::MonkeyWaa:: 

Is that what Richard's threats were about?  You know he had to know! 

 ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 01:49:36 AM
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sophia-parnachelli/4/5b8/17b

Sophia Parnachelli

Independent Broadcast Media Professional

Washington D.C. Metro Area Broadcast Media



http://s209.photobucket.com/profile/parnachelli/uploads

http://wbffshows.com/athletes/divas/sophia-parnachelli/

http://www.thephins.com/forums/showthread.php?9953-Sophia-Parnachelli



WARNING-SOME NUDITY AT THE LINK (I broke the link (with spaces) for that reason)

http://www.footballandchicks.com/sophia  parnachelli.htm

THE YAHOO GROUP!
SOPHIA PARNACHELLI KICKS IT ALL OFF
FOR THE NFL PBR UFC

I have owned and operated a DJ cafe in Vancouver which hosted Drag Shows, DJ's and ART. I have a great love for things out of the norm. I loved my business but ran myself into the ground. After closing I followed my love for music which led me to Broadcasting. I now have a degree in Broadcast Journalism for TV & Radio. I was an Intern at ClearChannel & Sony Music in Canada. I am not really sure what Im going to do with that degree yet...:). I own and operate my own business in MD and like the freedom of being self employed.

I ride a Harley, love animals & good red wine. I try not to mix the red wine and the ride or I will never make it home. Im very black and white and can't stand grey areas.....I am the girl that will break out the "handi-dancer" moves just to make you laugh!

I recently was in a motorcyle accident and ended up with a broken arm, fractured wrist and stitches...yeah who knew that Frankenstine was a female? Im feeling much better and would like to thank everyone for their kind emails. Im happy to say that I am almost back to my usual self.




http://www.viddler.com/explore/carolinacruiser/videos/21/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/2007_CJ_aka_SP.jpg)
snap shot from the interview

(Short interview is within the first few minutes of the video)

About This Video

This video is Public
Carolina Cruiser Host Dawn Glencer heads to the Charlotte Convention Center to the Easyriders Show. Check out some amazing motorcycles built by the best in the business, including Kendall Johnson, Ralph Randolph, Austin Weiss, and Shannon Davidson of the Chop Shop.

The spectacular Bike of the Week was built by Larry Temblay (who lost his son in Iraq) and friends out of Upstate NY - an incredible Marine Corps Tribute bike...Semper Fi.

Also interviews with Sophia Parnachelli, Miss Easyriders 2007 and Renee & Maggie from the Purrrfect Angels!

We also got a chance to head down to Coyote Ugly's in Charlotte and hang out with Cat & the girls.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 02:17:44 AM
There are many, many more links out there...just google.

I didn't post any of it to judge CJ. 

I still respect her for at least going to Aruba, and doing what she could to find her friend and roommate, Robyn.  And I respect her for not just continuing the appearance of going along with the lies and deceit of RF on that FB page, that (I think) started out with good intentions when Robyn's brother created it; but under his (RF's) control has changed dramatically.  And not for the good, imo.  I'm so glad I just read there, and never "liked" it.

I can't help but wonder if the same happened to Robyn, how much he was controlling her?  In the MSN he blamed Robyn's drinking for the police being called on numerous occasions that they were fighting.  He says Robyn was drinking, what was he doing?  He couldn't walk away?  I'm sorry...I just don't accept his placing all the blame on Robyn; who is not here to defend herself.  Especially coming from someone who professes his undying love for her but has raised my hinkey meter about the truthfulness of that (and other things) on many occasions; with his statements and actions. JMO

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ddhln.01.html

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/11/ddhln.01.html

I hope and pray that if there is ANYTHING that CJ (or any of Robyn's other friends) know about what was going on in her life that they have not told the authorities; that they will do it now.  You never know what little bit of information (with investigation) may lead to something that will shed light on what happened in Aruba!

No matter what choices Robyn made, she deserves to come home.

If she was murdered, she deserves a proper burial in her country.

No matter how much money RF collects with his fundraiser, I don't believe he will ever be instrumental in finding her.  And he's certainly not the type person to be involved in other missing persons cases.  JMHO



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 02:25:44 AM
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980725178

Robyn Gardner Donation Fund Attracts Negative Attention

November 06, 2011 12:00 AM EDT

Robyn Gardner vanished three months ago while on an Aruban vacation with the only suspect in the case, Gary Giordano. Since her disappearance, interest in this case have dwindled as Aruban authorities keep Giordano behind bars. In some of the latest developments related to this case, it seems that the former boyfriend of the missing Maryland woman has set up a sort of donation fundraiser in the woman's name.

Richard Forester, the former boyfriend of the missing Maryland woman, set up the following donation application, where you can donate as much or as little as you want to supposedly aid in the search for Robyn Gardner. This isn't to question the man's motives by any stretch, because it's obvious that he has feelings still for the woman who left him behind for a man at least 20 years older than she.

 ::snipping2::

Should you donate your money to Richard Forester?

It's rumored that the man has been living in his car, and doesn't have a dime to his name. It's also been reported that the Natalee Holloway Resource Center stopped working with the family of Robyn Gardner. So it doesn't appear that they are receiving any help in the search for the missing woman. It's up to you to make the decision of donating money to someone online, especially if you think it's to lend a hand in such a high-profile missing persons case. Practice wise judgement, though, and don't be taken for a ride. It can't be commented on whether or not RadarOnline writers think Richard's donation page is on the up-and-up.

The former boyfriend of the missing Maryland woman claims that he's upset with people who seem to accept that she may be dead. He's convinced that she's still alive even though the small bits of evidence obtained by Aruban authorities indicate otherwise.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 03:05:12 AM
https://www.facebook.com/michael.michalowicz?sk=wall

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/308627_2333555981992_1342583403_32730513_7395971_n.jpg)

Michael Michalowicz I am hoping for the best for an old friend missing in Aruba. I simply ask that you reserve judgement from the press. Regardless of the facts evolving in the situation, she does not deserve to simply disappear off the face of the earth. I am comforted by the support she, her family and friends are getting however it makes me sick seeing the callousness in humanity for those who objectify the situation and judge her based upon potentially questionable decisions she made.
August 10 at 6:56pm

Michael Michalowicz We are all human and deserve some sense of dignity.
August 10 at 7:11pm

 ::snipping2::


I agree.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2011, 09:32:07 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2301107130791&set=a.2301106490775.2139302.1342583403&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2301107130791&set=a.2301106490775.2139302.1342583403&type=1&theater)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224513_2301107130791_1342583403_32684491_5846774_n.jpg)

Michael Michalowicz Happy after a full day of fishing with friends in Cancun...
August 10 at 6:05pm

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267388_2301106850784_1342583403_32684490_4831382_n.jpg)

Michael Michalowicz Robyn, her ex-husband, a couple friends and I enjoyed hanging out with each other on a beach side bar with rope swings you see on the news. She deserves nothing more than to be there now.
August 10 at 6:01pm


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2011, 09:34:10 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2301167092290&set=a.2301106490775.2139302.1342583403&type=3&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2301167092290&set=a.2301106490775.2139302.1342583403&type=3&theater)

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254599_2301167092290_1342583403_32684534_1601801_n.jpg)

Michael Michalowicz Happy getting ready for a boat cruise in Cancun...
August 10 at 6:04pm


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2011, 09:34:37 AM
Robyn looks so happy in those photos


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 10:03:15 AM
Robyn looks so happy in those photos

Yes, she does Klaas.  I've gone back to them many times just to see her when she looked so happy.  IMO she was naturally pretty without all the enhancements that obviously came later.  Makes me sad when I wonder why she thought she needed all of that.

 :cry:


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 06, 2011, 12:13:42 PM
Christina Jones / aka / Sophia Parnachelli / aka / various stage names

If you happen to read here, could please advise if you once went by the stage name Indiana Lee, if you at a time in your past stripped & did private dances, and also if this has anything to do with Robyn's history? In no way am I judging, however I do feel if Robyn had this type of lifestyle then there are more avenues that could assist the authorities in locating her. In researching Robyn, I've come across minor connections to Canada & have no idea if it's at all relevant. Same goes with her ex-husband. Also her so called self described fatal attraction bf that most people are hinky about.

Basically what I think is that no matter what Robyn's history is, if she's fallen victim to a despicable crime, she's still innocent & deserves to be found, but unless all authorities involved know the full derailed history of her past, then it could be hard to get to the bottom of it all. What about if Giordano wasn't working alone? What about if he actually didn't do anything? It's my opinion that he's totally involved but there's sooo much more to this story.

If, big if, Robyn was involved in anything shady in her past or present endeavors, then there could very well be a questionable contact that authorities should be looking at...most especially if it's a true network involved.

No matter how anybody looks at it all, if porn (soft or hard), escorting, stripping, nude model pics were involved...then she could have encountered far more undesirable people. Any of her friends that know anything shady about her past but are afraid to speak to authorities in full should be afraid for themselves as well. Anybody that's told authorities all they know deserves kudos.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 06, 2011, 12:55:30 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/6318733983_10b737a177_z.jpg)

I guess it's no surprise to find Aruban's on the Find Robyn facebook

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6047/6318734189_3fc159c6cd.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 01:29:06 PM
Christina Jones / aka / Sophia Parnachelli / aka / various stage names

If you happen to read here, could please advise if you once went by the stage name Indiana Lee, if you at a time in your past stripped & did private dances, and also if this has anything to do with Robyn's history? In no way am I judging, however I do feel if Robyn had this type of lifestyle then there are more avenues that could assist the authorities in locating her. In researching Robyn, I've come across minor connections to Canada & have no idea if it's at all relevant. Same goes with her ex-husband. Also her so called self described fatal attraction bf that most people are hinky about.

Basically what I think is that no matter what Robyn's history is, if she's fallen victim to a despicable crime, she's still innocent & deserves to be found, but unless all authorities involved know the full derailed history of her past, then it could be hard to get to the bottom of it all. What about if Giordano wasn't working alone? What about if he actually didn't do anything? It's my opinion that he's totally involved but there's sooo much more to this story.

If, big if, Robyn was involved in anything shady in her past or present endeavors, then there could very well be a questionable contact that authorities should be looking at...most especially if it's a true network involved.

No matter how anybody looks at it all, if porn (soft or hard), escorting, stripping, nude model pics were involved...then she could have encountered far more undesirable people. Any of her friends that know anything shady about her past but are afraid to speak to authorities in full should be afraid for themselves as well. Anybody that's told authorities all they know deserves kudos.

Thank's Titch...interesting!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyCool::

It's all about finding Robyn, and bringing her home...where ever that leads. 

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 02:42:49 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/6318733983_10b737a177_z.jpg)

I guess it's no surprise to find Aruban's on the Find Robyn facebook

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6047/6318734189_3fc159c6cd.jpg)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

Lisa Anastasio Carney Way to go RADAR!!!!!!
Yesterday at 1:12pm · Like ·  3

Lisa Anastasio Carney
Prayers for Robyn's safe return!!! C'mon everybody DONATE so we can make this a reality!
Like ·  · Friday at 1:20pm ·

Cheryl Wapner Cohen
I honestly think you all need to clean this mess up before the media gets wind of this. You are setting yourselves up for total embarrassment.
Like ·  · Thursday at 5:14pm ·
7 people like this.

Lisa Anastasio Carney AMEN!!!
Thursday at 5:21pm · Like ·  2

Lisa Anastasio Carney Legitimate questions? Yes,they should be answered....but negative questions and wrong assumptions do NOT need to be addressed. He answered the legitimate questions....now donate or leave it alone...my god!
Thursday at 1:22pm · Like ·  2



http://www.facebook.com/lisaseanny?sk=wall

Lisa Anastasio Carney
From Milford, Connecticut

Wall

RECENT ACTIVITY

Lisa likes Radar Online and Starbucks Aruba.

"HELLLLOOOO ARUBA!!!! How's the..." on Aruba's Wall.

RECENT ACTIVITY

Lisa and Patricia Anthony are now friends. · Add Friend

Lisa likes Fancy Fork Caterers and 2 other pages.

RECENT ACTIVITY

Lisa and Richard Forester are now friends. · Add Friend

Lisa likes Aruba Daily. · Like Page
 ::snipping2::

Other   
Radisson Aruba Resort, Starbucks, Margaritas, The Riverhouse at Goodspeed Station, Bakes and Baldwin Floral Co., The United States of America Fan Page, The Home Equity Network, LLC, The Villa Gourmet, We Want a Dislike Option, Coastal.com, Flip-flops, Starbucks Aruba, Radar Online, The Hair Spa, Fancy Fork Caterers, Fancy Fork Caterers, Aruba Daily, Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba PAGE 2, Missing Robyn Gardner, Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba, Dan Rindos For Milford P&Z Board, The Westin Resort, Aruba, Westin Aruba, Aruba, SCOTTIE ART, Charlie Hunnam, Steve Carell, The Safe Cig, David Tutera, the Party Planner, William Whamond Painting & Wallpapering Contractor, "Mom, mom, mommy, ma, mom, mom, ma, ma, mommy, mommy... WHAT!!... hi!, Special Interest Vehicles, Car Buyer's Market, Bargain News Classifieds, BeeGee Bags, Five Guys Burgers and Fries, Being Italian, Saying YOUR WELCOME really loudly when people dont thank you

http://www.facebook.com/ArubaFans

Lisa Anastasio Carney I'll be at the Westin hopefully with the same view in 2 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours & 32 minutes!!!! CAN'T FREAKING WAIT!!!
October 20 at 2:25pm · Like ·  2

Lisa Anastasio Carney Balashi!!!!
October 21 at 1:36pm · Like ·  1

Lisa Anastasio Carney The friendliest people in the world!! The LOVE in the air there is something you can almost see!! Perfect Paradise! 2 more weeks!!!
October 21 at 1:37pm · Like

Lisa Anastasio Carney ‎2nd trip in 2 weeks tomorrow!!!! The excitement is OVERWHELMING!!!!
October 25 at 4:24pm · Like

Lisa Anastasio Carney ahhhh my favorite part everytime we go!
October 27 at 5:18pm · Like

Lisa Anastasio Carney one week from TODAY!!!
November 2 at 3:35pm · Like



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 07:50:32 PM
I only found 4 of the 5 posts...

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?s=2f5b62c546c50d93443498b2c76cb728&t=55422

Stripper Web Exotic Dancer Community

parnachelli
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Posted: 09-21-2005, 07:38 PM


Hollywood Hair Extensions   

HOLLYWOOD HAIR EXTENSIONS GREAT PRICE My name is Sophia and I have been doing extensions for ten years. I am a former Feature Exotic Dancer. We can do hair in Baltimore, DC, Hagerstown, PA....

Jessica Simpson, Madonna and Brittney all have one thing in common...hair extensions. You too can have beautiful hair extensions without the large cost the stars pay.

Have Long Beautiful Hair in 1 Day Just Like the Movie Stars!

Your hair will move and look like it is growing from your scalp because we actually adhere human hair to your own strands of hair. It’s quick, painless and does not harm your natural hair.

Fusion bonding - natural hair is divided into small sections then the hair weave is attached to the natural hair using the original Fusion Method adhesive. The fusion 3 months. It grows out as your natural hair grows out. It is easily, painlessly removable using a patented remover solution.

The process gives added fullness and length. Yes, any color or grade of hair can be matched.

No weaving machine, no pole, no braiding, no needle, no thread, no weft, and no heat. Strands to strands—no pain.

Will not damage your hair. Go from short, damaged hair to long, beautiful hair in one day.

The cost is $400-600. We only use human hair. Your hair will be soft to the touch. We bring all supplies and will match to your hair color. The hair is charged seperate and ranges from $60-$250. We can determine which hair to use depending on your needs.

I can come to you or you can come to me.

This type of hair extension is 12/14/16 or 18 inches long. You can also do extensions to add volume to thin hair or go for the exotic look and have a full head done.

Preparation: What do I need to do before I come? If you are African American, please have your hair permed prior to coming. Everyone should shampoo their hair. Do not use a conditioner or any oils afterward. Come with clean, straight hair.

After Care: You will be amazed how easy it is to take care of your new mane. I suggest using a silk pillow case. I also suggest brushing hair from the bottom up. I always bring extra supplies for sale so that you may purchase proper items @ a discounted cost for hair care.

Call me to book your appointment Sophia (removed) xxx-xxx-xxxx OR e-mail me @
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Posted: 10-13-2005, 06:59 PM

Re: Hollywood Hair Extensions   
Hi ladies. Just checking in. I have been trying to add posts here and there as I get time. If you have any questions about hair extensions please list them here....I have subscribed to this particular thread so I will answer back ASAP.


http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=27935&page=2

Posted: 10-13-2005, 06:50 PM

Re: should I get hair extensions?   
If you would like to get extensions mabye try a clip in first and see how you feel about it. If you like the instant gratification then go for it! I have been wearing them for a long time and also I hav ebeen doing then for ten years. If they are done right, by a pro, they wont damage your hair. I think this is a great way to add instant length and instant wow factor

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=41981

Posted: 10-13-2005, 06:47 PM

Re: hair extensions to die for   
Hi
I have been doing extensions for ten years and would like to quickly comment on a few things. ONe is that if your hair looks fake or like a weave You have defeated the purpose . Most people purchase the hair which is from China and has been placed in an Acid bath before adding color, this is to thin it our a bit. They then place silicon over it to give it that shiny look, however, we all know that after a few washed it goes away. Become dry and brittle. Also it is mixed so it is hair from different people, the cuticle is completely damaged. I suggest investing in hair that may only come from two people, if you can afford it then go for virgin hair from one person. I order directly from India and use it for my business. It is beautiful hair and can be used over again (what a concept  ) Also stay away from washing your extensions in really hot water, if you love hot showers like I do that is one thing but keep your hair out of the hot water. ALso brush from the ends up and put it in a braid before bed.
I hope this has helped a bit. I have a studio for Hair Extensions in Baltimore. If you have any questions please let me know and I would love to try and help out. I do fusion and So.Cap. I am a licensed for SO.CAP and have been doing fusion for ten years. I did see TiaMarias comments and she is also on the note about care for your hair.




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 08:17:14 PM
There is a freeones bio page for Sophia Parnachelli in Dutch

I can't post the link...nudity in the profile pic, and even after breaking the link it still brought up naughty ads.

This one had a mobile porn icon with her name above it, but I don't know if it was really available or not.

The profile was added on 6/29/06


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 06, 2011, 08:38:21 PM
There is a freeones bio page for Sophia Parnachelli in Dutch

I can't post the link...nudity in the profile pic, and even after breaking the link it still brought up naughty ads.

This one had a mobile porn icon with her name above it, but I don't know if it was really available or not.

The profile was added on 6/29/06

http://www.thephins.com/forums/showthread.php?9953-Sophia-Parnachelli

and

(http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/846aa48fccad4621911156c526f847a6/l.jpg)

[img]http://uploader.ws/upload/200801/ppp.jpg]/img]

She has tattoos too like Robyn Gardner

Her facebook
http://www.facebook.com/people/Sophia-Parnachelli/1378625001


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 06, 2011, 08:53:55 PM
She went by "Lana" here...

http://www.cityevents.tv/talentfinder/Model/North_Dakota/1281/lana_.html

(http://www.cityevents.tv/photos/small/main20091021114625.jpg)


LANA Model

North Dakota, USA

Name : Parnachelli

Age : 34   

Birthday : May, 25

Location : North Dakota, USA

Link : www.talentfinder.tv/Parnachelli

Status : Model

Gigs

FAME PLANET
05/05/2006
OHIO

FAME TROPICAL
05/12/2006
Miami

FAME BIG APPLE
05/20/2006
NYC

Interview:

Talent Finder says :
Can you briefly introduce yourself ?

lana says :
Hey all...im Sophia. Born in raised in Vancity...currently living in the hood...aka...Baltimore.

Talent Finder says :
What nationality or background are you?

lana says :
My nationality is Italian/Scottish

Talent Finder says :
Where were you born, and how was it like growing up?

lana says :
Vancouver, BC-growing up in Van was amazing. It doesn't rain as much as people say :)...the mountains and the ocean are beauitufl. And the people...B.C. is the multicultural capital of the world. Which means good food and soul.

Talent Finder says :
What’s your horoscope and how would you describe your personality?

lana says :
gemini trapped in a taurus body. kidding. im born on the cusp so im mostly taurus but at times there def. is a side to me that is gemini.

Talent Finder says :
Ok, lets start talking about modeling, How long have you been modeling?

lana says :
Since I was in diapers..

Talent Finder says :
How did you feel being in front of the camera for the first time?

lana says :
Um who can remember that long ago?

Talent Finder says :
Any tattoos or piercing? If yes which part of your body?

lana says :
I have several tattoos...and I want more

Talent Finder says :
Tell us about the achievements that you accomplished

lana says :
Stuff Magazine most sexiest woman on the web (voted #17)

Talent Finder says :
Do you have any dreams or goals you’re shooting for?

lana says :
Too many too list

Talent Finder says :
If you could play a lead role in a movie, what kind of movie would it be?

lana says :
ive tried acting a few times...id rather be a spokesmodel

Talent Finder says :
What’s the description of the perfect man or a woman to you?

lana says :
Someone that keeps it real and can appreciate being light at times. No drama-oh and a man that sugar coats everything usually wins

Talent Finder says :
Worst job you ever had?

lana says :
Paper route


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 07, 2011, 02:08:12 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2301107130791&set=a.2301106490775.2139302.1342583403&type=1&theater

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08232011_FB_03-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 07, 2011, 11:53:50 PM
http://www.stayclassy.org/charity/the-robyn-gardner-foundation/c7005

I noticed something odd with the fundraiser page.

Some "donations" (2) have gone poof since yesterday, but are they still included in the total?

There were 19 yesterday, and with the two new donations today; there are still 19.

I see $1466 listed in donations, but the total is $1541?   ::MonkeyConfused::

That's $75 dollars difference. 

The two donations that went poof since yesterday were for $40, and $25; so maybe there was another $10 donation that has been added and maybe gone poof as well; but is still included in the total?

Can the contributors actually take their donation back? 

Also 5 supporters yesterday, today it's down to 4.





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 08, 2011, 12:23:42 AM
http://www.stayclassy.org/fundraise?fcid=160571

This page says 21 donors and $1516 in donations.

The two that went poof off of the other page are still on this one.

And there is an additional one for $10 as well on this one.

But if I'm figuring correctly, that should mean this one adds up!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyConfused::




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on November 08, 2011, 12:33:31 AM
http://www.stayclassy.org/fundraise?fcid=160571

This page says 21 donors and $1516 in donations.

The two that went poof off of the other page are still on this one.

And there is an additional one for $10 as well on this one.

But if I'm figuring correctly, that should mean this one adds up!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyConfused::




 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 08, 2011, 12:47:33 PM
That company takes a percentage for the fundraising. Could that affect the total differences you are seeing?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on November 08, 2011, 02:11:36 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/caribiana/article/blond-skelet-aruba-blijkt-dood-paard

Google translation

Aruba blonde skeleton appears dead horse
Published: November 8, 2011 - 4:41 am | by Anneke Polak (Photo: Bon dia)

Equally, there was a glimmer of hope in Aruba. There was a blonde skeleton of a human body were found. But no Natalee Holloway nor Robyn Gardner: After a short investigation it was found out to be the skeleton of a horse.

 ::snipping2::

dead horse
But as long as the bodies of the missing American women did not show up, it will be difficult to make things close. Yesterday afternoon there was just hoping for a breakthrough: a tourist had a blonde skeleton. The police confirmed that after this notification directly look. Soon the police could not but conclude that this is a dead horse.

To avoid the reproach to get Aruba negligent in resolving the issues, as the mother of the American teenager - Beth Holloway - has often been claimed, the police every tip seriously. But after six years intensive search for Holloway, and an extensive search with sniffer dogs and with the help of the FBI to Gardner, a simple report of a tourist is all too easy. For now Aruba has not yet delivered from the two unresolved disappearances.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 08, 2011, 03:22:17 PM
That company takes a percentage for the fundraising. Could that affect the total differences you are seeing?


I don't think so.  When I'd checked in there before the "total" was the same as the sum of each of the listed donations.

JMO, but I would think the total donations number shown on the page would reflect the actual donations; and any fee or percentage taken would be deducted before payment to the person raising the funds?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 08, 2011, 03:30:25 PM
That company takes a percentage for the fundraising. Could that affect the total differences you are seeing?


Also, could some people have donated more than once? If so, if somebody donated twice, would it count 2 times?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 08, 2011, 03:33:21 PM
http://www.rnw.nl/caribiana/article/blond-skelet-aruba-blijkt-dood-paard

Google translation

Aruba blonde skeleton appears dead horse
Published: November 8, 2011 - 4:41 am | by Anneke Polak (Photo: Bon dia)

Equally, there was a glimmer of hope in Aruba. There was a blonde skeleton of a human body were found. But no Natalee Holloway nor Robyn Gardner: After a short investigation it was found out to be the skeleton of a horse.

 ::snipping2::

dead horse
But as long as the bodies of the missing American women did not show up, it will be difficult to make things close. Yesterday afternoon there was just hoping for a breakthrough: a tourist had a blonde skeleton. The police confirmed that after this notification directly look. Soon the police could not but conclude that this is a dead horse.

To avoid the reproach to get Aruba negligent in resolving the issues, as the mother of the American teenager - Beth Holloway - has often been claimed, the police every tip seriously. But after six years intensive search for Holloway, and an extensive search with sniffer dogs and with the help of the FBI to Gardner, a simple report of a tourist is all too easy. For now Aruba has not yet delivered from the two unresolved disappearances.


This crap is so irritating. There is no mistaking a dead horse skeleton for a human skeleton. For crying out loud, they are either imbeciles themselves or they think the rest of the world are imbeciles for believing their horsesh!t...pun intended! Buncha morons!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 08, 2011, 03:36:02 PM
That company takes a percentage for the fundraising. Could that affect the total differences you are seeing?


Also, could some people have donated more than once? If so, if somebody donated twice, would it count 2 times?

ALL of the donations are listed, some with some without names.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 08, 2011, 03:50:47 PM
Yes, and he knows Robyn's not here to tell us what's true or not.

He has no right to speak for her, imo.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba
http://www.stayclassy.org/fundraise?fcid=160571

While I realize there is a lot of scrutiny from others (and I understand that - people are allowed to have their opinions)....but Robyn and I also know whats true and whats not. THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS TO HELP FIND ROBYN and bring her home....HOWEVER THAT MAY BE. Please help if you would like....that can be a donation or simply passing the link along to your friends or "sharing" this link. There are people out there saying awful things, but it shouldn't take away from the point that Robyn is missing still and there are no clues and all what we want is to FIND ROBYN and bring her home....and that's all we want with this foundation....for now. Robyn deserved none of this. She deserves every effort....I can handle the lies and rumors as they come from horrible people and I know I'm above them. So help if you can and want to, and if not, thank you for taking the time to read this. We just want to find Robyn and bring her home. Thank you again.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 08, 2011, 04:22:18 PM
We must have been reading it at the same time!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11082011_CBreRF.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 08, 2011, 07:48:31 PM
No idea who started this one.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Robyn/244376155618784?sk=wall

Justice for Robyn
Community

Description   

this page is dedicated to Robyn .you have brought all of us together ....
we are all searching for answers & justice..some in thought ,some in prayer,but all in hopes of bringing you home.

Missing in Aruba since August 2, 2011


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 09, 2011, 02:28:23 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2301107130791&set=a.2301106490775.2139302.1342583403&type=1&theater

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08232011_FB_03-1.jpg)

Justice for Robyn!   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 09, 2011, 06:21:31 PM
ANYONE CAN FILE

NOT EVERY TAX FREE FOUNDATION IS APPROVED

SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET APPROVAL

OTHER THAN FILING THE FORM, NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS FOUNDATION IS ON THE "UP AND UP"

ITA   ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11092011_CBwall.jpg)

http://www.irs.gov/app/pub-78/

 ::snipping2::

In addition, you may verify an organization's tax-exempt status and eligibility to receive tax-deductible charitable contributions by asking to see an organization's IRS letter recognizing it as tax-exempt. You may also confirm an organization's status by calling the IRS (toll-free) at 1-877-829-5500.

http://www.sos.state.md.us/charity/searchcharity.aspx

http://www.sos.state.md.us/charity/Givewise.aspx


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 09, 2011, 07:01:47 PM
TM - exactly my point.  No way has this "foundation" been approved.  Just because he filed for a tax free foundation does not mean it will be approved.  Actually I would bet it won't be approved. 

Which should be a warning to anyone considering a donation that it is basically a NON TAX DEDUCTIBLE donation to RF.  He'll get just enough to enjoy a donations paid trip to Aruba  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 10, 2011, 12:04:19 AM
"are tax deductible" vs "will be tax deductible"

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

Carla Baron Someone [Name Withheld for Privacy] just emailed this statement from Sean @ StayClassy.org a few moments ago about The Robyn Gardner Foundation:

http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/RG-Foundation1.JPG
about an hour ago · Like

(http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/RG-Foundation1.JPG)

http://www.stayclassy.org/fundraise?fcid=160571

Dear friends and family,

Please help support The Robyn Gardner Foundation in our quest to find Robyn, who went missing in Aruba on August 2nd, 2011. Robyn is an incredible woman and her disappearance has no answers thus far. Family, friends and loved ones are devastated and desperate to find Robyn and bring her home immediately. This is a tragedy that needs to be solved as soon as possible and Robyn deserves all the help we can give her so that she can come home. 

Any donation will help, but by giving a $10 or $20 recurring monthly donation, you’ll be ensuring the long-tem success of the organization in our efforts not only to locate Robyn and bring her home, but to help other missing persons as well. The funds will be used for extensive searching, reward money and to utilize all resources possible to find Robyn initially and then others that are victims both domestically and internationally. All donations will be tax deductable and serve a much needed cause - TO BRING ROBYN HOME. We are a small organization that has been inspired by Robyn. Her disappearance has gained worldwide attention and made many of us aware of the horrible things that can happen to any one of us at any time.

Even if you can’t make a donation, please help us reach our goal by sharing this page on Facebook and Twitter.  Even better, please send an email to friends you think might be interested in contributing and include a link to this page!

Thank you for your help in bringing Robyn home. Once the ultimate goal of bringing her home has been accomplished, we will put our focus on others that need our assistance. We will also be conducting fund raisers as needed, so please check back often to stay up to date on our efforts.


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11092011_StayClassyOrg_RGF_TaxDed.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 10, 2011, 12:56:25 AM
What a crock  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 10, 2011, 02:55:16 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08222011_FBHelpFindRobyn_1-1.jpg)

Justice for Robyn!   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 10, 2011, 04:38:19 PM
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2011/11/gary-giordano-s-lawyer-quits-69004.html

Gary Giordano's lawyer quits

November 10, 2011 - 11:03 am

A lawyer representing Gary Giordano, the man accused of killing a Maryland woman in Aruba, has quit.

In a letter dated Nov. 8, Michael Lopez and Jurima Bryson state that Lopez Law won’t be representing Giordano.

“We wish Mr. Giordano all kind of success in his further endeavors,” the letter states.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Northern Rose on November 10, 2011, 09:11:32 PM
Gary Giordano's Aruban Lawyer Steps Down; Stands By His Innocence

 ::snipping2::

"As stated previously by our law firm in Courts, there is no proof whatsoever that Mr. Giordano has committed an offense. With arguments and facts presented by LopezLaw against the assumptions by the District Attorney, Mr. Giordano soon will have to be released," wrote Lopez, who stopped representing the suspect on November 8.

 ::snipping2::

As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Giordano, 50, is now represented by well-respected Aruban defense lawyer Chris Lejuez, who promises to be a formidable force against the prosecution.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/robyn-gardner-aruba-gary-giordano-defense-lawyer-michael-lopez


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 10, 2011, 10:18:48 PM
https://www.stayclassy.org/checkout/donation?cid=7005

Is my donation secure?
Absolutely. The Robyn Gardner Foundation & our online fundraising partner, StayClassy, makes the security and confidentiality of your information our highest priority. We use industry-standard SSL (secure socket layer) technology to protect your information and provide a safe and secure environment for online donations.

What shows up on my statement?
The donation you are making today will show up on your credit card statement as:DONATION . The Robyn Gardner Foundation has partnered with fundraising company, StayClassy, to process our online donations. Please visit stayclassy.org/charge to learn more about StayClassy's donation processing system.

Is my donation tax deductible?
Yes. The Robyn Gardner Foundation is a 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization and your donation is tax-deductible within the guidelines of U.S. law. To claim a donation as a deduction on your U.S. taxes, please keep your email donation receipt as your official record. We'll send it to you upon successful completion of your donation.

Do I get a receipt?
A donation receipt will be sent to you at the email address you provide on this form. Please be sure to keep a copy of your receipt for tax purposes. If you select a recurring donation, you will be sent an individual receipt each month when your donation is processed. What is StayClassy?The Robyn Gardner Foundation uses StayClassy to process our online donations and power our fundraising software. StayClassy provides a secure platform to nonprofits that allows them to accept online contributions and manage donor relationships. You can learn more about StayClassy by visiting their website at www.stayclassy.org.


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11102011_RobynGardnerFoundation_StayClassyorg_1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 10, 2011, 10:47:38 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/90672-lopez-niet-meer-advocaat-giordano

Google translation:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11102011_Amigoe_GaryGiordano.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 11, 2011, 04:17:58 AM
No idea who started this one.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Robyn/244376155618784?sk=wall

Justice for Robyn
Community

Description   

this page is dedicated to Robyn .you have brought all of us together ....
we are all searching for answers & justice..some in thought ,some in prayer,but all in hopes of bringing you home.

Missing in Aruba since August 2, 2011

After spending a few minutes reading at this "new" page just now; apparently it's just another donate to Richard, poor pitiful Richard, and bash/attack anyone who speaks out against Richard page.  I hope others including LE are reading it tonight.

RF apparently has many masks now on Facebook, and no one cares enough about him to tell him to just STFU.

It seems that everything RF takes over or creates is anything but "dedicated to Robyn".

It's very telling.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

JMO


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 11, 2011, 06:10:59 AM
With video   ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/11/10/missing-frederick-womans-boyfriend-sets-up-fund-to-bring-her-home/

Missing Frederick Woman’s Boyfriend Sets Up Fund To Bring Her Home

November 10, 2011 11:22 PM

BALTIMORE (WJZ)– A new appeal for information in an unsolved disappearance. Frederick native Robyn Gardner has been missing in Aruba for three months now. Her boyfriend won’t give up hope she is alive and he’s set up a fund to keep the search going.

Meghan McCorkell has more on where the money is going.

Richard Forester says he’s still believes Robyn Gardner is alive. Now he says he’s doing whatever he can to bring her home.

Vanished without a trace. For 100 days, Robyn Gardner has been missing.

“The first thing that pops in my head everyday when I wake up is Robyn, and what ring of fire do I have to go through next.”

Richard Forester says he’s tortured by the questions surrounding his girlfriend’s disappearance. The 35-year-old went missing in Aruba in August. Her travel companion– 50-year-old Gary Giordano remains behind bars– a suspect in her death.

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 11, 2011, 05:46:39 PM
http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/robyn-gardner-the-boyfriend-others-left-behind-part-deux/ (http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/robyn-gardner-the-boyfriend-others-left-behind-part-deux/)

Very interesting information Carla is posting  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 11, 2011, 06:12:56 PM
http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/robyn-gardner-the-boyfriend-others-left-behind-part-deux/ (http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/robyn-gardner-the-boyfriend-others-left-behind-part-deux/)

Very interesting information Carla is posting  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

OMG, I guess that could explain WHY Richard Forester didn't jump on a plane to Aruba!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 11, 2011, 06:14:08 PM
I need to read that a few more times!  WOW!

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 11, 2011, 06:34:12 PM
Yeah I've read twice, going back for a third after coffee ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: tupelohoney on November 11, 2011, 07:06:30 PM
http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/robyn-gardner-the-boyfriend-others-left-behind-part-deux/ (http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/robyn-gardner-the-boyfriend-others-left-behind-part-deux/)

Very interesting information Carla is posting  ::MonkeyCool::
Interesting indeed. Did Richard go on nat'l TV immediately because he's worried about his money ticket gone missing?  That didn't bring in enough money, so he sets up the foundation?  Or is it much deeper, more involved?  Are Gary and Richard in cahoots on this together???

IDK    Still no body,(not that unusual in Aruba tho)  Being an escort, could she have been passed off, or willing went, to someone else and she left Aruba by boat? She could have walked herself right into a human trafficking ring.   

But I still can't get past Gary going to get help, with his toupee on, and tennis shoes.  So staged.  He is definitely involved.   Both these men seem to only want Robyn, dead or alive, only for the money.   jmoo


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on November 11, 2011, 07:45:33 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-interview-boyfriend-fears-robyn-gardner-sold-AS-sex-slave

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! BOYFRIEND FEARS ROBYN GARDNER SOLD AS SEX SLAVE!
Published on: November 11, 2011
By JOHN BLOSSER, NATIONAL ENQUIRER

Missing Maryland tourist ROBYN GARDNER is ALIVE but being forced to work as a prostitute in a South American brothel!

That’s the nightmare Richard Forester, Gardner’s devastated boyfriend, has had to live with every day since the blonde beauty vanished on Aug. 2. He believes she was lured to Aruba and sold into white slavery by Gary Giordano, the man being held in an Aruban prison and under investigation for Robyn’s disappearance.

As The ENQUIRER recently reported, Aruban cops have been following a lead that Robyn was buried alive by Giordano, but Forester believes she is still alive.

“Police are barking up the wrong tree by search­ing all over the island for Robyn’s body,” Forester, a 41-year- old financial exec­utive recruiter from Mary­land, told The ENQUIRER in an exclusive interview. “I be­lieve she was drugged and sold into a prostitution ring by Gary Giordano, and hasn’t been on the island since Aug. 2.”

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: TnMuse on November 11, 2011, 08:32:37 PM
I need to read that a few more times!  WOW!

 ::MonkeyCool::

Can I borrow your WOW?  I can't catch my breath.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 11, 2011, 08:49:25 PM
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980755466 (http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980755466)

 ::snipping2::

The Robyn Gardner story becomes stranger

Psychic profiler Carla Baron published a blog piece today on this missing persons case, which she has been covering extensively. The world-renowned psychic and star of TruTv's Haunting Evidence has been in contact with a slew of individuals who are both close to the missing woman, but the investigation and her former boyfriend as well. It appears that nobody is on board with Forester's attempt at raising donations, save for the people who have donated. A source who contacted Carla shared some information that could indicate that this Robyn Gardner Foundation isn't tax-deductable, as Richard States otherwise on the website.

It's also heavily rumored around those close to the missing woman and her former boyfriend, that Robyn Gardner was a paid escort who had been picked up a few times for "solicitation"—Richard Forester is reported to have known about this. It's also been shared that Robyn Gardner was spotted on surveillance at the airport, before heading to the Caribbean, handing an envelope full of money to Richard Forester.

Could any of these new details lend a hand to the investigation into this woman's whereabouts? It's highly unlikely that the missing Maryland woman is alive, but the possibility of prostitution playing a role in her disappearance could be a lead.
 ::snipping2::


Wow, that makes Richard sound like her pimp?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on November 11, 2011, 09:31:59 PM
It does sound like Richard was her pimp.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  And comments from Richard from the National Enquirer--

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-interview-boyfriend-fears-robyn-gardner-sold-AS-sex-slave

 ::snipping2::

Forester added that the fiend may have had an accomplice con­nected to the white slavery racket.

The ENQUIRER discovered that Giordano and Robyn were seen in the company of a non-native, muscular, curly-haired man who was about 40 with a large tattoo of a heart over a cross on his left arm and another unspecified tattoo on his left hand. Meantime, police reportedly have been probing the possibility of an accomplice.

Forester figures that with just two hours between the time when Robyn was last seen and Giordano reported her missing, and his lack of knowledge of the local geogra­phy, he wouldn’t have been able to find a place to hide her body well enough to confound police searches, which have included the military and cadaver dogs.

With an accomplice, especially one with access to a boat, a drugged Robyn could have been quickly sold and spirited away by sea. In fact, Venezuela is just 15 miles away.

“She could be anywhere in the world by now,” said a distraught Forester. “I believe she is being held captive in a whorehouse."

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Helen Back on November 11, 2011, 11:45:50 PM
Hey monkeys.....just catching up on news about Robyn.

If this info is true about Robyn and RF's "relationship".......Wow

That, I did not expect.

Is sure hope investigative efforts in the US will help find Robyn.

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 12, 2011, 11:05:40 AM
Posted on Carla Baron's facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328)

Nikki Bloum
Interesting email

Nikki:
1. See note below. I'm going to follow up on this. It sickens me that nobody takes this seriously.
2. I thought his latest attack on you hilarious. He's now speaking for Robyn from the grave, I guess, but I also thought you might find his recent article funny. The magazine he trashed for so long as a "rag" is now offering him exclusive interviews.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-interview-boyfriend-fears-robyn-gardner-sold-AS-sex-slave3.
When is Carla going to share the next round of RF dirt? I was hoping the next round scares him so much that he's trying to "cash out" with the National Enquirer assuming he'll be kicked to the curb. Is it real or just Carla blowing smoke?
Name withheld
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Name withheld
Date: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Subject: Complaint
To: sean@stayclassy.org
Sean:
For several days you have understood that the Robyn Gardner Foundation is not an approved 501c3 organization yet stayclassy.org continues to let them fraudulently portray themselves as such. Richard Forester is on TV and soliciting online and every time someone donates through stayclass.org, your site says the verbage below. If this is not resolved by end of day Monday, I will take a screen shot and send to the MD Attorney General and the Internal Revenue Service.

The Robyn Gardner Foundation

We are a U.S. 501 (c)3 organization
Is my donation tax deductible?
Yes. The Robyn Gardner Foundation is a 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization and your donation is tax-deductible within the guidelines of U.S. law. To claim a donation as a deduction on you
U.S. taxes, please keep your email donation receipt as your official record. We'll send it to you upon successful completion of your donation.
Reply
Forward
Name withheld

11:18 PM (11 hours ago)
to me
In light of the recent developments, the comments from Sean on RG's family is very
interesting.
Name With held
From: Name With held

Date: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Complaint
To: Sean Chisholm <sean@stayclassy.org>
Thank you for correcting the mistake and understand your position. Stay tuned b/c in time, a blockbuster story will break on these folks.

Name withheld
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Sean Chisholm <sean@stayclassy.org> wrote:

Dear Name withheld,
Thanks for reaching out to express your concern. The language that you are quoting is automatically loaded based upon the selection each nonprofit makes during registration with our site (e.g. they select whether or not they are a 501(c)(3)). This is not a situation where we are consciously making a representation about a given organization; apparently the wrong selection was made. Now that you've pointed it out, we will fix it. I have followed up on concerns that were raised about the Robyn Gardner Foundation by contacting the legal guardian of Robyn Gardner's estate directly. She told me over the phone that neither she nor the family has a problem with Richard Forester or the Foundation. Absent proof of wrongdoing, we have no basis to cancel the foundation's account. Thank you for pointing out the mistake though, we will correct it promptly.
Wishing You the Best,
Sean Chisholm

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-interview-boyfriend-fears-robyn-gardner-sold-AS-
www.nationalenquirer.com
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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 12, 2011, 12:25:15 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-interview-boyfriend-fears-robyn-gardner-sold-AS-sex-slave

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! BOYFRIEND FEARS ROBYN GARDNER SOLD AS SEX SLAVE!
Published on: November 11, 2011
By JOHN BLOSSER, NATIONAL ENQUIRER

Missing Maryland tourist ROBYN GARDNER is ALIVE but being forced to work as a prostitute in a South American brothel!

That’s the nightmare Richard Forester, Gardner’s devastated boyfriend, has had to live with every day since the blonde beauty vanished on Aug. 2. He believes she was lured to Aruba and sold into white slavery by Gary Giordano, the man being held in an Aruban prison and under investigation for Robyn’s disappearance.

As The ENQUIRER recently reported, Aruban cops have been following a lead that Robyn was buried alive by Giordano, but Forester believes she is still alive.

“Police are barking up the wrong tree by search­ing all over the island for Robyn’s body,” Forester, a 41-year- old financial exec­utive recruiter from Mary­land, told The ENQUIRER in an exclusive interview. “I be­lieve she was drugged and sold into a prostitution ring by Gary Giordano, and hasn’t been on the island since Aug. 2.”

 ::snipping2::


Yes, Nikki is correct...I remembered those statements by Richard Forester about the National Enquirer's prior article about Robyn.

BUT, then he decides to give them an exclusive interview? 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

Billy Best
check out the new ''news'' from the national enquirer. hmm where have we heard that before? when i heard back in august this woman was missing and or presumed murdered i had a strong feeling sadly no trace of her would be found just like the others who disappeared in aruba. natalee holloway of course ,willard bud larson , gary makings, max devries. just toname a few. something is seriously not right down there. still praying for you Robyn. stay strong fam
Like ·  · October 27 at 11:42am ·

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba It's the NE...I put no credence in what they report. She (and the rest of them) may not even be on the island IMO. We will get the truth and thank you for your support. RF
October 27 at 11:58am · Like ·  1

 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10272011_HFRCG_FB_RFRENE.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

Stacy Mattson just read a story that says an anonimous tip came through saying that he buried her alive...
October 27 at 12:15pm · Like

Ed Spicer Good, i hope all 5000 people call my business line with a investigation for us or a tip about Robyn & we can bring her home for the holidays!!!
October 27 at 12:16pm · Like ·  3

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba ‎@ Stacy...it's the National Enquirer reporting this. DO people really believe what that rag reports? RF
October 27 at 12:24pm · Like

Stacy Mattson oh isee....sorry i was reading it on foxnews...didnt notice they were citing the enquirer.
October 27 at 12:25pm · Like

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba Yes...I saw the Fox News report, but they did mention that the NE was reporting it. Sickens me. RF
October 27 at 12:28pm · Like

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 12, 2011, 12:42:48 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

 ::snipping2::

Derek Cavan Theres Ken now being accused of people trafficking out of MD.
20 hours ago · Like

Amber Garrett Brown all they are doing by spreading stupid rumors are taking the spotlight off of the real victim and suspect, they will continue to do this until they have no one supporting Robyn's whereabouts including Le! You can't cry wolf!
20 hours ago · Like

Derek Cavan They dont fool us Amber.Thats where the friction lies!
20 hours ago · Like

Amber Garrett Brown Derek it is sad that such people would cry wolf and say such when in reality they are probably hiding more than we know! JMO
20 hours ago · Like

Derek Cavan There are always motives behind madness Amber.Thats a fact!
20 hours ago · Like ·  1

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 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 12, 2011, 12:50:28 PM
Wonder how much the NE paid Richard for his interview  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 12, 2011, 01:08:13 PM
Posted on Carla Baron's facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328)

Nikki Bloum
Interesting email

Nikki:
1. See note below. I'm going to follow up on this. It sickens me that nobody takes this seriously.
2. I thought his latest attack on you hilarious. He's now speaking for Robyn from the grave, I guess, but I also thought you might find his recent article funny. The magazine he trashed for so long as a "rag" is now offering him exclusive interviews.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-interview-boyfriend-fears-robyn-gardner-sold-AS-sex-slave3.
When is Carla going to share the next round of RF dirt? I was hoping the next round scares him so much that he's trying to "cash out" with the National Enquirer assuming he'll be kicked to the curb. Is it real or just Carla blowing smoke?
Name withheld
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Name withheld
Date: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Subject: Complaint
To: sean@stayclassy.org
Sean:
For several days you have understood that the Robyn Gardner Foundation is not an approved 501c3 organization yet stayclassy.org continues to let them fraudulently portray themselves as such. Richard Forester is on TV and soliciting online and every time someone donates through stayclass.org, your site says the verbage below. If this is not resolved by end of day Monday, I will take a screen shot and send to the MD Attorney General and the Internal Revenue Service.

The Robyn Gardner Foundation

We are a U.S. 501 (c)3 organization
Is my donation tax deductible?
Yes. The Robyn Gardner Foundation is a 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization and your donation is tax-deductible within the guidelines of U.S. law. To claim a donation as a deduction on you
U.S. taxes, please keep your email donation receipt as your official record. We'll send it to you upon successful completion of your donation.
Reply
Forward
Name withheld

11:18 PM (11 hours ago)
to me
In light of the recent developments, the comments from Sean on RG's family is very
interesting.
Name With held
From: Name With held

Date: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Complaint
To: Sean Chisholm <sean@stayclassy.org>
Thank you for correcting the mistake and understand your position. Stay tuned b/c in time, a blockbuster story will break on these folks.

Name withheld
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Sean Chisholm <sean@stayclassy.org> wrote:

Dear Name withheld,
Thanks for reaching out to express your concern. The language that you are quoting is automatically loaded based upon the selection each nonprofit makes during registration with our site (e.g. they select whether or not they are a 501(c)(3)). This is not a situation where we are consciously making a representation about a given organization; apparently the wrong selection was made. Now that you've pointed it out, we will fix it. I have followed up on concerns that were raised about the Robyn Gardner Foundation by contacting the legal guardian of Robyn Gardner's estate directly. She told me over the phone that neither she nor the family has a problem with Richard Forester or the Foundation. Absent proof of wrongdoing, we have no basis to cancel the foundation's account. Thank you for pointing out the mistake though, we will correct it promptly.
Wishing You the Best,
Sean Chisholm

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-interview-boyfriend-fears-robyn-gardner-sold-AS-
www.nationalenquirer.com
Like ·  · Share · 15 minutes ago ·

Interesting...   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think the legal guardian of the estate is Robyn's cousin, who traveled to Aruba with Christina Jones to look for Robyn. 

Court document of the Guardianship hearing:

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=10C11002603&loc=67&detailLoc=CC

http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/the-mystifying-twists-turns-in-the-search-for-robyn-gardner/

 ::snipping2::
Monday, September 5, 2011 4:44 AM PDT

“Hello Carla. My name is Christina Jones. I am Robyns roommate. I know that Richard is driving you MAD. I totally get it. I have my own opinion about him but that is neither here nor there…I am just trying very hard to bring justice on robyns behalf. I am now in Aruba with Kelly (Robyns Cousin)…I am here to try and find her.
 ::snipping2::

I can't put my finger on it at the moment, but either a friend or "cousin" of Robyn's also went to Aruba with Robyn's mother, Andrea Colson... in the first days after Robyn's disappearance IIRC.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 12, 2011, 01:09:59 PM
Wonder how much the NE paid Richard for his interview  ::MonkeyCool::

I've wondered the same.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 12, 2011, 03:58:45 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

 ::snipping2::

Carla Baron
Receiving tons of email this a.m. where people who know him personally are applauding my latest article on Richard Forester. I will post below. #RobynGardner
Like ·  · Share · 42 minutes ago ·
4 people like this.

Carla Baron Message:

I have a personal connection to RF. I wished from the moment I saw his face on TV in the RG case that someone would get the word out about him. Thank you. I have personally stayed out of this to protect my family. All the "dirt" that is dug up is true. I have no doubts that he has something to do with this. I prefer to stay private, like I said, to protect my family. But thank you! Please keep spreading the word about this pathological fraud of a man.

[Name Withheld for Privacy]
41 minutes ago · Like ·  1

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11122011_CBwall_reRF1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Magnolia on November 12, 2011, 04:34:21 PM
Wonder how much the NE paid Richard for his interview  ::MonkeyCool::

I've wondered the same.   ::MonkeyNoNo::




Me too.   I say at least $500


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 13, 2011, 01:57:58 AM
One of the many posts about the slanderous lies being spewed on a page they dared to call "Justice for Robyn"

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11122011_JFR_fb1.jpg)

But he's so worried about Robyn?    ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not hardly, imo.

Such a liar, he even lies about the simplest of things.

(I snipped the other lies in this post)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Robyn/244376155618784

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11122011_RF_LIAR1.jpg)

AFTER that post, there are at least 20 newer posts by him.

Delusional, and despicable imo. ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 13, 2011, 01:47:26 PM
Q: Do you have a definition of Internet crime that I can refer to?
Internet crime is defined as any illegal activity involving one or more components of the Internet, such as websites, chat rooms, and/or email. Internet crime involves the use of the Internet to communicate false or fraudulent representations to consumers. These crimes may include, but are not limited to, advance-fee schemes, non-delivery of goods or services, computer hacking, or employment/business opportunity schemes.

Q: Can I file a complaint if I have been defrauded of money or goods?
If you believe you are the victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint on our website.
http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 13, 2011, 02:22:00 PM
Q: Do you have a definition of Internet crime that I can refer to?
Internet crime is defined as any illegal activity involving one or more components of the Internet, such as websites, chat rooms, and/or email. Internet crime involves the use of the Internet to communicate false or fraudulent representations to consumers. These crimes may include, but are not limited to, advance-fee schemes, non-delivery of goods or services, computer hacking, or employment/business opportunity schemes.

Q: Can I file a complaint if I have been defrauded of money or goods?
If you believe you are the victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint on our website.
http://www.ic3.gov/contact/default.aspx

 ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 13, 2011, 02:46:45 PM
"are tax deductible" vs "will be tax deductible"

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

Carla Baron Someone [Name Withheld for Privacy] just emailed this statement from Sean @ StayClassy.org a few moments ago about The Robyn Gardner Foundation:

http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/RG-Foundation1.JPG
about an hour ago · Like

(http://carlabaron.net/RF_file/RG-Foundation1.JPG)

http://www.stayclassy.org/fundraise?fcid=160571

Dear friends and family,

Please help support The Robyn Gardner Foundation in our quest to find Robyn, who went missing in Aruba on August 2nd, 2011. Robyn is an incredible woman and her disappearance has no answers thus far. Family, friends and loved ones are devastated and desperate to find Robyn and bring her home immediately. This is a tragedy that needs to be solved as soon as possible and Robyn deserves all the help we can give her so that she can come home. 

Any donation will help, but by giving a $10 or $20 recurring monthly donation, you’ll be ensuring the long-tem success of the organization in our efforts not only to locate Robyn and bring her home, but to help other missing persons as well. The funds will be used for extensive searching, reward money and to utilize all resources possible to find Robyn initially and then others that are victims both domestically and internationally. All donations will be tax deductable and serve a much needed cause - TO BRING ROBYN HOME. We are a small organization that has been inspired by Robyn. Her disappearance has gained worldwide attention and made many of us aware of the horrible things that can happen to any one of us at any time.

Even if you can’t make a donation, please help us reach our goal by sharing this page on Facebook and Twitter.  Even better, please send an email to friends you think might be interested in contributing and include a link to this page!

Thank you for your help in bringing Robyn home. Once the ultimate goal of bringing her home has been accomplished, we will put our focus on others that need our assistance. We will also be conducting fund raisers as needed, so please check back often to stay up to date on our efforts.


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11092011_StayClassyOrg_RGF_TaxDed.jpg)

https://www.stayclassy.org/checkout/donation?cid=7005

Is my donation secure?
Absolutely. The Robyn Gardner Foundation & our online fundraising partner, StayClassy, makes the security and confidentiality of your information our highest priority. We use industry-standard SSL (secure socket layer) technology to protect your information and provide a safe and secure environment for online donations.

What shows up on my statement?
The donation you are making today will show up on your credit card statement as:DONATION . The Robyn Gardner Foundation has partnered with fundraising company, StayClassy, to process our online donations. Please visit stayclassy.org/charge to learn more about StayClassy's donation processing system.

Is my donation tax deductible?
Yes. The Robyn Gardner Foundation is a 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization and your donation is tax-deductible within the guidelines of U.S. law. To claim a donation as a deduction on your U.S. taxes, please keep your email donation receipt as your official record. We'll send it to you upon successful completion of your donation.

Do I get a receipt?
A donation receipt will be sent to you at the email address you provide on this form. Please be sure to keep a copy of your receipt for tax purposes. If you select a recurring donation, you will be sent an individual receipt each month when your donation is processed. What is StayClassy?The Robyn Gardner Foundation uses StayClassy to process our online donations and power our fundraising software. StayClassy provides a secure platform to nonprofits that allows them to accept online contributions and manage donor relationships. You can learn more about StayClassy by visiting their website at www.stayclassy.org.


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11102011_RobynGardnerFoundation_StayClassyorg_1.jpg)

So now it's changed, not IS, or WILL BE, but MAYBE   ::MonkeyWink::
IF the IRS' hinkey meter doesn't max out as ours have; and it is approved.

https://www.stayclassy.org/checkout/donation?cid=7005

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11132011_RGF_DonationPageChange.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 13, 2011, 03:12:15 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11132011_CBfbwall1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 13, 2011, 05:22:55 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11132011_HFRCG_fbwall_JohnElmendorf.jpg)


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11999.msg1463482#msg1463482

Copied from the Missing Robyn Gardner FB Wall on August 17th at 11:10am...

Quote the whole page as it has some interesting info, some of which has since been deleted:


Robyn Gardner

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Missing-Robyn-Gardner/268063119876935


Missing Robyn Gardner ·
Top Posts
Wall

 ::snipping2::

John Elmendorf Her boyfriend himself had a domestic violence order put in place against him by his ex wife Ashley from April 2007 to April 2008. A woman who dated Giordano and filed a criminal complaint against him, Valerie Portney, also had a long running criminal case against ANOTHER psycho she was seeing named Bruce Kaplan, this guy was put in jail for violating domestic violence orders entered by the Court ordering him to stay away from her. ALL of the people centered around this case, Gardner, Giordano, Forester, and most of the women who have come forward who claimed to fate Giordano have ALL had domestic violence/peace order issues yet NONE of this is being reported. Someone needs to get on the phone to Nancy Grace before her show tomorrow night and let the true facts come out
12 hours ago ·  1 person

 ::snipping2::

John Elmendorf
Here is an interesting tidbit I uncovered that you might find interesting. In 2009 her husband (Kenneth Gardner) filed for divorce from her. He was granted a divorce in 2009 and case was closed. Case was reopened in February of this year by ex husband who was petitioning Court to have the amount of alimony he was paying her lowered.....In June of this year the Court ordered the couple to take part in mediation to try and resolve the issue, and a hearing was scheduled for October of this year.....now suddenly she is "gone" and with her, so is his obligation to pay any more alimony......
Monday at 7:01pm · Like · Comment
Donald J. Murphy and Carrie Stauffer like this.

 ::snipping2::

John Elmendorf Good God, these people who claim to be this woman's "friends" are just ignorant and in denial. No one is condemning her for the life she chose to live, nor judging her, but trust me, the FBI now knows ALL of the details of her life and her relationship with Giordano. He was never a "platonic" friend, and they were both mutual participants in a relationship where he provided her with support, money and gifts etc, in return for her spending time with him, in and out of bed. Is that wrong? it is not for us to judge, but all of these people trying to hide the nature of this womans relationship when it is wholly relevant to why she was with this nut in Aruba in the first place are just plain IGNORANT. Trust me, what will come out in time once the FBI has gone through all of his computer, phone bank and other records will paint a completely different picture of what these two people were doing together over the last two years....
12 hours ago

 ::snipping2::

John Elmendorf
This scumbad owns a staffing company in DC area called "Leverage LLC"...he went to Univ of MD and was a graduate of Severna Park High School. He has had a sex profile on the adult sex site Adultfriendfinder for years.....guy is a complete wackjob, is into BDSM, violent sex, gets off on videotaping women while he is having sex with him etc....had several women file criminal charges against him for these same things, as well as stalking and threats of physical violence. WTF was this woman doing being involved with this low life?...and not only that, she has been involved with him for over a year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 12 at 4:20pm · Like · Comment

 ::snipping2::

John Elmendorf I'm telling you there is soooooooooo much more to this story about her relationship with this dude that her boyfriend, her roomate and even her family are keeping quiet about. When all the background about her involvement with him comes out people are gonna be shocked mark my words.
August 12 at 8:48pm ·  3 people



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 13, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11942.msg1459295#msg1459295

Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
Quote
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08082011FB02_aa.jpg)


Richard Forester has since removed his posts from August 7th....

This is how it looks now...

http://www.facebook.com/ArubaFans?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11132011_ArubaFansFB_RichardRemovedPostFromAug7.jpg)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/12/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba_n_926012.html

Four days after that post on the Aruba fans facebook page...

From the MSNBC video at the bottom of the article...

Richard Forester tells Matt Lauer that they'd been together for about 2 1/2 years, but only exclusively since January 2011.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on November 14, 2011, 12:49:05 AM
Texasmom, thank you for the information from the FB...Great job!  ::MonkeyKiss::

My goodness.... Why must everything to do with Aruba be so complicated?  ::MonkeyNoNo::
 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 14, 2011, 12:51:17 AM
Another good catch by Titch!   ::MonkeyCool::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11999.msg1463488#msg1463488

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/12/robyn-gardner-missing-aruba_n_926012.html

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08122011_MatchCom_falseRepByFriendsFamily.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08142011_HuffPostComm_John.jpg)

John0211
12:21 PM on 8/14/2011
He owns a company called "Leverage LLC", if you google it or look for it on Linkedin you can find it. It is some kind of bullsh#t IT staffing company. He went to Univ of Maryland and also Severna Park High School. Guy is well known as a psycho on dating sites, including the adult sex site he is on called "Adultfrie ndfinder". ..word is that this Gardner woman met him on the adult sex site and NOT Match.com, her friends and family told the cops it was Match.com to keep her from looking like she was some kind of sew for money chick....



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 14, 2011, 01:18:23 AM
Texasmom, thank you for the information from the FB...Great job!  ::MonkeyKiss::

My goodness.... Why must everything to do with Aruba be so complicated?  ::MonkeyNoNo::
 

You're welcome grace-land.   ::MonkeyCool::

Other than some of the shocking aspects of this case that are coming to light (some were expected, some not imo), the thing that bothers me the most is that it does seem that because of the cover up and failure to prosecute anyone in Natalee's case;  Aruba was the chosen destination for this crime.

The Aruban triangle strikes again.  One minute you're there...the next you're gone; poof!

Will no body, no case = No Justice for Robyn; as it has so far for Natalee?

I hope not.   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 14, 2011, 01:24:53 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2301107130791&set=a.2301106490775.2139302.1342583403&type=1&theater

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08232011_FB_03-1.jpg)

Justice for Robyn!   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on November 14, 2011, 01:40:58 AM
Aruba cannot afford to mess up this case.  I guess that we'll have to wait until the end of November to see how they have progressed with the investigation.  Also, it will be interesting to see what happened with the Federal grand jury regarding Giordano; there has been no news about it.
 
 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 17, 2011, 12:51:12 AM
http://www.diario.aw/

11/17/2011 Diario Front Page

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11172011_DiarioFP-1.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11172011_Diario_FP_1.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

national enquirer is tell cu police of aruba owing to achieve one tip cu robyn gardner owing to worde bury bibo

merca: the magazine national enquirer recientemente owing to publica one storia tocante the caso of desaparicion of robyn gardner at aruba. the magazine is tell cu police of aruba owing to achieve one tip anonimo but credible of one person cu is tell cu gardner owing to worde bury bibo for gary giordano.

pesey according enquirer, owing to cuminza one buskeda cu cacho.

according the informacion, the muher will owing to worde bury at cemetery of cacho y cu the cachonan special owing to give some possible sitio where the will can is bury.

autoridadnan will is planeando for investiga the lugarnan here.

the magazine is tell also cu fuentenan owing to tell cu the tip telefonico will owing to worde give for one mericano of alrededor of 40 ana cu several tattoo at his curpa, cu cabey dark cu curl.

the tip will owing to tell cu after cu giordano owing to beat y sofoca the muher, the will owing to dere in cemetery of cacho, bao of one of the cachonan cu owing to worde bury eynan.

just first cu past owing to end of fill the cemetery, the will owing to hear the muher is haci sonido, but past owing to dere so self. come across


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 17, 2011, 12:54:42 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08222011_FBHelpFindRobyn_1-1.jpg)

Justice for Robyn!   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: TnMuse on November 17, 2011, 02:28:22 AM
http://www.diario.aw/

11/17/2011 Diario Front Page

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11172011_DiarioFP-1.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11172011_Diario_FP_1.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

national enquirer is tell cu police of aruba owing to achieve one tip cu robyn gardner owing to worde bury bibo

merca: the magazine national enquirer recientemente owing to publica one storia tocante the caso of desaparicion of robyn gardner at aruba. the magazine is tell cu police of aruba owing to achieve one tip anonimo but credible of one person cu is tell cu gardner owing to worde bury bibo for gary giordano.

pesey according enquirer, owing to cuminza one buskeda cu cacho.

according the informacion, the muher will owing to worde bury at cemetery of cacho y cu the cachonan special owing to give some possible sitio where the will can is bury.

autoridadnan will is planeando for investiga the lugarnan here.

the magazine is tell also cu fuentenan owing to tell cu the tip telefonico will owing to worde give for one mericano of alrededor of 40 ana cu several tattoo at his curpa, cu cabey dark cu curl.

the tip will owing to tell cu after cu giordano owing to beat y sofoca the muher, the will owing to dere in cemetery of cacho, bao of one of the cachonan cu owing to worde bury eynan.

just first cu past owing to end of fill the cemetery, the will owing to hear the muher is haci sonido, but past owing to dere so self. come across

Isn't that the same story as this one in English from Oct 26th?...or am I missing something in the translation?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12000.560
Post from Curly« Reply #574 on: October 26, 2011, 07:58:08 PM »
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12000.msg1482215#msg1482215


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 17, 2011, 09:30:42 AM
TnMuse - it probably is the same article but maybe TM's point is that it's now published in Diario


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 17, 2011, 07:30:23 PM
I see the USUAL Aruban's are getting involved (Jairo).  Wonder how involved Renfro is?  ::MonkeyCool::   (pardon Richard's language  ::MonkeyCool:: )

https://twitter.com/recruiterDC (https://twitter.com/recruiterDC)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/RFTwitterwithJairo111711.jpg)


Jairo's twitter:

https://twitter.com/Jairo_Boekhoudt (https://twitter.com/Jairo_Boekhoudt)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 17, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
TnMuse - it probably is the same article but maybe TM's point is that it's now published in Diario

Thanks Klaas, yes that was my point.  Many in Aruba were probably not aware of it.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/10042011_HFRCG_NE_NotViewableInAruba.jpg)

Be sure and note RF's other comment about the NE...before his exclusive interview with them.

 ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-interview-boyfriend-fears-robyn-gardner-sold-AS-sex-slave



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 17, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
I see the USUAL Aruban's are getting involved (Jairo).  Wonder how involved Renfro is?  ::MonkeyCool::

https://twitter.com/recruiterDC (https://twitter.com/recruiterDC)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/RFTwitterwithJairo111711.jpg)


Jairo's twitter:

https://twitter.com/Jairo_Boekhoudt (https://twitter.com/Jairo_Boekhoudt)

Yes, Richard is making all kinds of Aruban friends; it seemed odd to me that was more important to him than actually going over there and looking for Robyn... until I read Carla's blog pieces; now it makes sense!  If he's on surveillance taking an envelope of money from Robyn in the airport on her way to Aruba with Gary Giordano...that could be enough for Aruba to have some questions for him too?  How much good would all of his legal assistance do him in Aruba? 

Where would his "foundation" be if he's in a cell beside Gary? In the toilet?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

That note to Nikki stood out to me, I knew this wouldn't last!  I think he enjoys attacking and bullying too much to actually stop.

He stopped the attacks for the moment on FB...maybe since the donations weren't pouring in like he thought they should be with all of the "feel sorry for RF drama" and cowardly attacks?  But now he's attacking/bullying on Twitter.  A few posts before that one on Twitter he's begging others to help him out with promoting his foundation!

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11132011_RF_NoMoreRetaliating.jpg)

Nikki had posted a link to Carla Baron's blog piece, that's what he was responding to.

https://twitter.com/recruiterDC

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 17, 2011, 08:59:51 PM
Earlier posts about Nikki:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552?sk=wall

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11102011_HFRCG_Mollie_Nikki_RF.jpg)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-Robyn/244376155618784

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11102011_RF_attackNikki.jpg)



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 17, 2011, 09:05:39 PM
Cruel, cruel, cruel.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Any thoughts on what someone like this could be capable of if they thought someone (he) considered to be HIS, someone he thinks for...speaks for...(thinks he controls) was planning to kick him to the curb for someone else?



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 17, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Search-For-Truth/217760878292789?sk=wall

Description   

Robyn Gardner went missing in Aruba on August 2nd 2011. This page will serve the purpose of organizing a search in Aruba and close by for the truth of what happened to her. Only passported americans who can travel with resources will be allowed on this page. There are other forums for talk. This forum is about action.

In the first quarter of 2012 we are organizing a search party to seach all of the places that have not been properly searched on the island of Aruba. We are getting a chartered flight out of an east coast city and we will secure a hotel large enough for all 40 people to stay in. Anyone wanting to participate will fill out an application for selection. This will not be a vacation but will be hard work and long hours. Our goal is that the search will bear success.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 17, 2011, 11:22:09 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Search-For-Truth/217760878292789?sk=wall

Robyn Colson Gardner Search For Truth
A 9 year old autistic boy named Robbie Wood recently went missing here in my hometown for five days after running from his dad on a park outing. My 24 year old daughter Meredith went and voluntered on the search party that went out each day. The media became instantly attatched to her because of her personality. She was on several networks and in lots of print media. Well this lost child was FOUND on day 5 tired dehydrated a little worn but alive!! Meredith even put her group picture with her search party as her profile picture. She and I will be organizing this group effort to go to Aruba and conduct several days of intense searching. It was her commitment and dedication to this successful search that motivated me to organize this trip.
Like ·  · Share · Yesterday at 4:48pm


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 18, 2011, 12:10:12 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2301107130791&set=a.2301106490775.2139302.1342583403&type=1&theater

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08232011_FB_03-1.jpg)

::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: TnMuse on November 18, 2011, 03:04:06 PM
::MonkeyCool::

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Search-For-Truth/217760878292789?sk=wall

Robyn Colson Gardner Search For Truth
A 9 year old autistic boy named Robbie Wood recently went missing here in my hometown for five days after running from his dad on a park outing. My 24 year old daughter Meredith went and voluntered on the search party that went out each day. The media became instantly attatched to her because of her personality. She was on several networks and in lots of print media. Well this lost child was FOUND on day 5 tired dehydrated a little worn but alive!! Meredith even put her group picture with her search party as her profile picture. She and I will be organizing this group effort to go to Aruba and conduct several days of intense searching. It was her commitment and dedication to this successful search that motivated me to organize this trip.
Like ·  · Share · Yesterday at 4:48pm
Wow, that is heartwarming.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 18, 2011, 08:36:10 PM
https://www.dccourts.gov/cco/maincase.jsf

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Reminder:  Oral Exam Hearing  11/21/2011

Monday


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on November 18, 2011, 10:36:49 PM
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Aruban-Prosecutors-Want-30-More-Days-of-Detention-for-Giordano-134157708.html

Aruban Prosecutors Want 30 More Days of Detention for Giordano
Murder or manslaughter charge possible in December
Friday, Nov 18, 2011  |  Updated 9:32 PM EST

Prosecutors in Aruba will ask a judge to order a Maryland man held for one more 30-day detention period as the investigation into a missing Maryland woman continues.

Gary Giordano could be charged with murder or manslaughter by the third week of December.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 19, 2011, 03:55:15 PM
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Aruban-Prosecutors-Want-30-More-Days-of-Detention-for-Giordano-134157708.html

Aruban Prosecutors Want 30 More Days of Detention for Giordano
Murder or manslaughter charge possible in December
Friday, Nov 18, 2011  |  Updated 9:32 PM EST

Prosecutors in Aruba will ask a judge to order a Maryland man held for one more 30-day detention period as the investigation into a missing Maryland woman continues.

Gary Giordano could be charged with murder or manslaughter by the third week of December.

 ::snipping2::


In today's Aruba news...

http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=7843

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 19, 2011, 04:03:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carla-Baron/130633511328

http://psychiccarlabaron.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/robyn-gardner-the-essential-collection/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/11192011_CB_FBwall.jpg)


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: klaasend on November 19, 2011, 06:47:45 PM
http://www.facebook.com/ArubaDaily

Aruba Daily FB.  Love how Margaret Wever makes sure everyone knows business is GREAT!  ::MonkeyDevil::

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 20, 2011, 11:29:31 AM
http://dcist.com/2011/11/crime_in_brief_26.php

Crime in Brief


 ::snipping2::

>> Prosecutors in Aruba will ask a judge to order Gary Giordano held for another 30-day detention period as they continue to investigate his connection to the disappearance of a Maryland woman. Giordano could be charged with murder or manslaughter by the end of the year. Giordano has been held since Robyn Gardner disappeared in August while traveling with him in Aruba. He claims she didn’t get back to shore when they were snorkeling, but prosecutors suspect foul play.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: grace-land on November 20, 2011, 12:57:53 PM
http://www.facebook.com/ArubaDaily

Aruba Daily FB.  Love how Margaret Wever makes sure everyone knows business is GREAT!  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/ArubaDailyFB111911.jpg)

 ::MonkeyCool::

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20111117-712784.html

NOVEMBER 17, 2011, 3:15 P.M. ET.
S&P Raises Aruba Outlook To Stable On Growth Prospect, Reforms

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

Standard & Poor's Ratings Services removed the prospect of any downgrades for the Caribbean island of Aruba any time soon, citing an improved view for economic growth and pension and health-care reforms.

In raising its outlook on Aruba to stable from negative, S&P said recent reforms to address shortfalls in Aruba's pension system and health-care agency should strengthen public finances over the long term.

Though the government's debt burden has risen recently, S&P predicted the growth would be contained thanks to Valero Energy Corp.'s (VLO) decision to reopen its refinery in Aruba after an 18-month shutdown, as well as favorable growth prospects in the coming year and various fiscal measures.

Oil refining and storage had largely ceased to be a mainstay of Aruba's economy--which largely relies on tourism--in the last couple of years until Valero's move.

S&P currently rates Aruba at A-, which is four notches above junk territory.

It said the rating could fall if reform momentum stalls or economic growth unexpectedly declines, resulting in high fiscal deficits and a rising burden of government debt. On the other hand, the rating could rise if the fiscal and debt trajectory grow more favorable than expected, along with higher-than-expected GDP growth beyond next year and improving external liquidity to support confidence in foreign exchange.
 
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 20, 2011, 02:21:04 PM
http://www.facebook.com/ArubaDaily

Aruba Daily FB.  Love how Margaret Wever makes sure everyone knows business is GREAT!  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/ArubaDailyFB111911.jpg)


ARUBA'S WEB OF DECIET PROTECTS MURDERERS

In spite of the fact that these individuals have profession's whereby they are to expose and uphold the truth, we never saw that in the Natalee Holloway case and now some of the same individuals are inserting themselves in the same manner in the Robyn Gardner case.

Aruba's geneology of characters goes like this:

Margaret Wever Is friends with Dilma Arends Geerman and Rosalie Klein
Dilma Arrends Geerman is friends with Rosalie Klein
Dilma Arrends is friends with Arlene Ellis-Schipper.
Arlene Ellis-Schipper is on the board of the CMB bank where Paulus deposited Joran's money
same day his son was being interrogated for a missing American teenager, Natalee Holloway.
Arlene Ellis-Schipper works for ATA, AHATA, Chamber of Commerce. She is good friends with Paulus van der Sloot.
Arlene Ellis-Schipper's cousin is Guido (arrested in Natalee Holloway case)
Dilma Arrends Geerman is friends with Antonio Carlo.
Antonio Carlos is friends with Paulus van der Sloot
Antonio Carlo is friends with Rob Smith
Rob Smith Aruba Hospitality & Security Foundation
Rob Smith is close friends with Dilma Arrends Geerman.

REMEMBER THE VISABILITY TEAM
Schotlandstraat 49
Oranjestad, Aruba
Dutch Caribbean
phone:002975881221 
http://geoffreyvc.hyves.nl/

 
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Left to Right in Picture
1. David Brown (Valero PR Director)
2. source do not know
3. source do not know
4. Jan van Ness (GM Playa Linda) (ex director ATA)
5. Rob Smith (ex GM Westin) (CEO AHATA)
6. Michell Brooks (HR Director Hyatt) (Ex HR employee Radisson)
7. Roland Peterson (SNBA - San Nicholaas Busisness Assoc.) (Ex Chief of Aruba Police during 1986-1990)
8. Source do not know
9. Fritz Isreal (director of Marketing at ATA)
10. Jorge Pesquera (Ex CEO AHATA) (President of convetion center of West Palm Beach FL.)

ROB SMITH, Director of AHATA 
The government of Aruba allocates close to 10 million dollars annually to promote the island abroad through Aruba Tourism Authority. http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?t=53670
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?t=53670
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2527.505;wap2

Aruba Hotel & Touism Association ]/b]
Rob Smith



spokeswoman for Aruba Dilma Arrends posted to Richard Forester
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but according to Joe Tacopina documents Dilma Arends-German swore she is a reporter for Bon Dia Aruba
newspaper and has been a reporter for 21 years, but she presented herself as a spoleswoman for Aruba! (source: Exhibt H http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/tacopina.pdf)

Dilma thinks that Joran's extoration is a conspriacy
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Here she pokes fun of the murdered American tennager that took place in Aruba
Dilma Arends Geerman When I asked Natalee for a sign, this is not what I hoped for....So, so, so sad....
http://www.facebook.com/dilma.a.geerman?v=wall&ref=ts

 
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ON THE IP IS THIS EMAIL
rosalie.klein@gmail.com


So I did a quick search and this came up

http://www.hi5.com/friend/p130648233--Rosalie----html
Rosalie  43
Birthday is August 12
Oranjestad, Aruba

rob o
Senior Member
 rob o's Avatar
 Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Renaissance Island
Age: 55
Posts: 1,074
   
CindyO and I renewed our wedding vows in April of 2008. We used Rosalie Klein for the photography and she did a wonderful job. Her price was very reasonable.

Rosalie also works as a freelance journalist, and covered my daughter's 16th birthday party at Hard Rock Cafe for the newspaper "The News". Again, very professional.
I've contacted her via e-mail....she is very responsive.
rosalie.klein@gmail.com
http://www.aruba.com/forum/f13/wedding-photographer-38397/

For those who did not follow the posts by rosalie Klein do a search at SM and it should bring up all the information wherein she tried to mis-direct the case and made many disparaging remarks about Natalee and her mother, Beth. What kind of woman whose profession is to write about the truth would do something like that just to protect an island which allowed an Aruban man named Joran van der Sloot free to murder another innocent young girl!


Margaret Wever - made this one post (email addy margaretwever@yahoo.com)
 Submitted on 2008/01/30 at 10:00am
My newspaper  “THE NEWS”
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=2733.0
http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/condolences-margaret-wever-42556/
http://www.aruba.com/forum/members/margaret-wever/
Dear all. 
Just a little FYI/update. 
I am currently back at work! I had decided not to go back to work after the newspaper was declared bankrupt until mom were strong again. Unfortunately, mom left...
http://www.aruba.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1570493

I guess with time on her hands she decided to post about how great TOURISM is nowadays in spite of a missing Robyn Gardner and a murdered Natalee Holloway on their Tourism friendly island.


Instead of ANY of the above individuals reporting that it took their own polis a month to have search dogs brought in to search for Robyn Gardner, and over 9 days to search the 3 last suspects seen with Natalee and expose the truth of their islands ineptness and question a cover-up what we got from them was a search for Natalee not in the last place she was seen, but they went out across the opposite side of the island. NOT one of these individuals speak the truth in their journalism nor their academics as professionals. They all call themselves journalist and/or defend their ISLAND so that unsuspecting women and murders will go free. They are accountable for their own actions/words and deeds. [/color]


NOT SAFE to go to Aruba
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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 21, 2011, 10:03:45 AM
Omg Kerm! I just remembered something! Look at your above post. In reading your post I was reminded of the Visibility Team. Well I saw where Westin was mentioned, ex gm. There's probably no connection but what if, just what if there is. Right about the time Robyn went missing there was some kind of gathering at the Westin, big gathering, CEOs & such. I still follow my instincts & it may not beca popular opinion, but I don't believe Guordano to ve the only one at fault fir Robyn's disappearance. I've said from the beginning that I believe there's a network involved. With Aruba's lackadaisical approach toward tackling narcotic trades & human trafficking, their island is a haven for criminal activity & money launderers.

Texasmom, good morning! Does anyone know who Giordano came in contact with shortly before their plane trip to Aruba? Who did they socialize with on the island? Wasn't it said there was another guy hanging around them when they went go that outdoor party/concert? wasn't it also said that they had dinner with another couple? I'm trying to remember. One thing I do know, I specifically remember reading something about the Westin around the time Robyn went missing. With all the inconsistencies surrounding Natalee's disappearance, I decided to look at everything happening around the time those students were there. So I did the same thing with Robyn's disappearance. Westin, I'm gonna look & see what I find. Have a busy day & night so more eyes are moi better than just my two.

Love ya monkeys & hope everyone has a great day!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 21, 2011, 10:08:01 AM
http://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/1784.htm

Summons for oral examination
A summons for oral examination is a court document saying you must attend court on a specific date to answer questions about your financial circumstances.
The creditor takes this action to get information about your income, expenses, assets and debts. This helps them decide what they can do to get the money back.

The summons
Only a creditor who has an order against you for a debt can request a summons for oral examination. The creditor will send you a summons. The summons will tell you that you must go to court on a particular day and time. You will have to answer, on oath, questions about your income, expenses, assets and debts.
You must go to the court at the time specified. If you do not go, a warrant may be issued for your arrest.
Only a creditor can cancel the oral examination. You will get a small sum of money to help with the cost of getting to court.
You must take with you any documents named on the summons, for example, bank books, bills and pay slips. Take along any evidence that may help your situation.

The oral examination
The examination usually happens in an office, not in open court. (If you did not appear at an earlier appointment, the examination may take place in open court.)
The court registrar will ask you questions about your financial circumstances. The creditor’s representative may also ask you questions. No one else can ask you questions.
See ‘Oral examination – what will I be asked?’ (link below) for the types of questions you may be asked. Take some time to work out your answers in advance.
 ::snipping2::

Unless they postponed it again...this should be happening today.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12000.msg1480908#msg1480908


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 21, 2011, 10:19:00 AM
Something else while I'm at it...

Dilma mentioned it was sad to compare Aruba to Mexico, lmao... Thanks Dilma for reminding me of something else I came across hahaha jokes on you my dear! There's a chick connected to Giordano. She's based in Canada. She "recruits" girls for "national pageants" (yeahmyassshedoes). Well she runs a "travel" business, too. Again I'm lmao bc this so called travel company is linked to the same date/match/bride company that Baezturd used. One of the trips with these matchmakers used to pair gals with guys, guy vs guy, gal vs gal, 2 gals vs 1 guy (you get the gust) - well guess where...Arooobuh! Those emm effers. I'm onto them & I can't be the only one. I'm just one person out of a million that gives a damn.

I don't believe that Forrester is the person he portrays himself to be. Again, I've said it since the beginning. Yeah, he's a recruit-her alright lmfao!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 21, 2011, 10:23:43 AM
Thanks for the reminder Tex. I'll check back later. My son is being inducted into the NHS tonight, starts college in Jan, is in 10th grade, just lettered for the 4th time & I'm super proud! Hope he keeps his head on straight! Busy day, gotta run...

Anybody has anything to add, even if you think it's obscelete, add your input & findings anyway. We'll brainstorm together!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 21, 2011, 10:42:41 AM
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Help-Find-Robyn-Colson-Gardner-Missing-in-Aruba/230993886944552

10/27/2011 (Post has been deleted)

Help Find Robyn Colson - Gardner : Missing in Aruba If anyone put's credence into the National Enquirer....I hope you re-think reality. It is a rag at best. ALl the stories they have written about Robyn's DISAPPEARANCE are false and their writers are dirty, uncaring souls that are out for personal gain and money. I wish there was a way to stop them...unfortunately only one person (Robyn) can (legally) do that and until we bring her home SAFE, we just have to put up with the horrific stories they post....no matter how disturbing they are. PLEASE don't post their articles on this page. It's hard enough dealing with all else, then having to reads those stories about what they say happened to Robyn....y ou can't even imagine the pain and anguish. Anyway, prayers and love. Still steadfast that Robyn will come home safely...no matter what ANYONE says. Always believe until proven otherwise. Thank you again for everyones support, prayers and well wishes for Robyn. RF....never give up.

 ::snipping2::

I've posted others that were still there (after the exclusive interview) but I knew I'd read this, and I finally found it...   

Screen shots 10/27/2011  (these were captured about a minute apart)

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Same post captured later, this post is still there... 

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: tupelohoney on November 21, 2011, 11:06:39 AM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/tip

GOT A TIP?

THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER will pay you for good stories and juicy tips about celebrities. Just send a brief summary of your idea to us, and PLEASE - no fake photos from the Internet! You must include a valid e-mail address and contact information in order to receive your payment. Or, you can call us at 1-888-809-6799.
Yeah, I've got a tip for them and it's free of charge. Try being a responsible news outlet, have some actual facts and truth behind your stories. It's not that hard to do.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 21, 2011, 11:12:10 AM
Gee thanks Titch, I've got a million things to do today and you had to go and make me start going hmmmm to several things...

Just kidding of course, I always appreciate your thought provoking posts!   ::MonkeyKiss::

But I'll have to check on the things I'm thinking about later, too much to get done today!

Congrats to your son, I know how proud you must be!   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 21, 2011, 11:36:05 AM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/tip

GOT A TIP?

THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER will pay you for good stories and juicy tips about celebrities. Just send a brief summary of your idea to us, and PLEASE - no fake photos from the Internet! You must include a valid e-mail address and contact information in order to receive your payment. Or, you can call us at 1-888-809-6799.
Yeah, I've got a tip for them and it's free of charge. Try being a responsible news outlet, have some actual facts and truth behind your stories. It's not that hard to do.

Well, the picture was real!   ::MonkeyWink::

And maybe Richard got enough for it's "use" to settle his judgement today...and then some?

IF there is any other truth to that story, I can't help but wonder if and/or how much personal knowledge Richard Forester had about those activities prior to Robyn's disappearance?

I'm not giving Gary Giordano a pass by any means; I just don't think he did whatever happened alone. 

JMO

I'll never forget the picture of OJ in those "ugly ass shoes" as he described the Bruno Magli shoes that left bloody footprints at the double murder scene...that he denied owning; was that in the National Enquirer?  I remember it being in a tabloid, just not sure which one.

I usually take the NE and other tabloids with a grain of salt, but there is sometimes...SOME truth...in some of their stories.

Again, JMO.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 21, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/tip

GOT A TIP?

THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER will pay you for good stories and juicy tips about celebrities. Just send a brief summary of your idea to us, and PLEASE - no fake photos from the Internet! You must include a valid e-mail address and contact information in order to receive your payment. Or, you can call us at 1-888-809-6799.
Yeah, I've got a tip for them and it's free of charge. Try being a responsible news outlet, have some actual facts and truth behind your stories. It's not that hard to do.

Well, the picture was real!   ::MonkeyWink::

And maybe Richard got enough for it's "use" to settle his judgement today...and then some?

IF there is any other truth to that story, I can't help but wonder if and/or how much personal knowledge Richard Forester had about those activities prior to Robyn's disappearance?

I'm not giving Gary Giordano a pass by any means; I just don't think he did whatever happened alone. 

JMO

I'll never forget the picture of OJ in those "ugly ass shoes" as he described the Bruno Magli shoes that left bloody footprints at the double murder scene...that he denied owning; was that in the National Enquirer?  I remember it being in a tabloid, just not sure which one.

I usually take the NE and other tabloids with a grain of salt, but there is sometimes...SOME truth...in some of their stories.

Again, JMO.


It was the NE definitely that broke that OJ pic story in the Bruno Magli shoes. I remember it plain as day. I don't get the NE but I did for that story! They got him red handed lol.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 21, 2011, 02:49:13 PM
Gee thanks Titch, I've got a million things to do today and you had to go and make me start going hmmmm to several things...

Just kidding of course, I always appreciate your thought provoking posts!   ::MonkeyKiss::

But I'll have to check on the things I'm thinking about later, too much to get done today!

Congrats to your son, I know how proud you must be!   ::MonkeyCool::



Thx. I logged back on this morning & was hooked on the Michelle Parker thread. I'm getting ready now. I'll come back tonight if I can. I sweat I remember reading about something going on at the Westin.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 21, 2011, 05:50:04 PM
https://www.dccourts.gov/cco/maincase.jsf

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Continued until 12/14/2011

https://www.dccourts.gov/cco/maincase.jsf

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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 21, 2011, 06:22:12 PM
Thanks for the reminder Tex. I'll check back later. My son is being inducted into the NHS tonight, starts college in Jan, is in 10th grade, just lettered for the 4th time & I'm super proud! Hope he keeps his head on straight! Busy day, gotta run...

Anybody has anything to add, even if you think it's obscelete, add your input & findings anyway. We'll brainstorm together!

Congratulations to your son and to you Titch cuz you raised him.

Off the top of my head I don't recall what was going on at the Westin during Robyn's disappearance.
I agree, I don't think Gary Girodano was alone and covered up a crime with no leads and/or evidence.



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: tupelohoney on November 21, 2011, 07:54:13 PM
Thanks for the reminder Tex. I'll check back later. My son is being inducted into the NHS tonight, starts college in Jan, is in 10th grade, just lettered for the 4th time & I'm super proud! Hope he keeps his head on straight! Busy day, gotta run...

Anybody has anything to add, even if you think it's obscelete, add your input & findings anyway. We'll brainstorm together!

Congratulations to your son and to you Titch cuz you raised him.

Off the top of my head I don't recall what was going on at the Westin during Robyn's disappearance.
I agree, I don't think Gary Girodano was alone and covered up a crime with no leads and/or evidence.


Magic Live!     http://www.magiconthebeach.com/   Looks like they've been there before, during and after Robyn's trip.  Not sure what else


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: texasmom on November 21, 2011, 10:57:40 PM
Thanks for the reminder Tex. I'll check back later. My son is being inducted into the NHS tonight, starts college in Jan, is in 10th grade, just lettered for the 4th time & I'm super proud! Hope he keeps his head on straight! Busy day, gotta run...

Anybody has anything to add, even if you think it's obscelete, add your input & findings anyway. We'll brainstorm together!

Congratulations to your son and to you Titch cuz you raised him.

Off the top of my head I don't recall what was going on at the Westin during Robyn's disappearance.
I agree, I don't think Gary Girodano was alone and covered up a crime with no leads and/or evidence.


Magic Live!     http://www.magiconthebeach.com/   Looks like they've been there before, during and after Robyn's trip.  Not sure what else

Thanks for helping tupelohoney!  That's a local show, they perform at the Westin on a regular basis. 

This is one event I've come across so far, even though it didn't officially start until the day after Robyn's disappearance; I still think it's worth looking at.  There may have been some participants and/or clients on the island for days before the event.

I think it was hosted by 3A Producionnes out of Cali Colombia

http://www.eurokiosks.org/events_aug11.html#aug11

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Show:  Aruba Gaming Expo 2011
Dates:  3-4 August, 2011
City:      Aruba
Venue:  The Westin Aruba Resort

http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=other&pnum=41&refresh=yS1530gEq4B0&EID=86a84f1d-32ec-4370-8a81-8ecfb3e629a5&skip=&p=41

http://arubagamingexpo.com/

Google translation:

This domain has expired
If you are the owner of this domain, please contact the registrar as soon as your body

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(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08032011_ArubaGamingExpo.jpg)

http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=other&pnum=64&refresh=B0a41d3FpR07&EID=2a180a8c-b366-4b1c-a963-cb29d6090047&skip=&p=64

Ad on page 64 for the same Aruba Gaming Show

http://calvinayre.com/aruba-gaming-congress/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/Robyn%20Gardner/08032011_ArubaGamingCongress.jpg)

Website link wouldn't work for me again...

http://www.arubagamingexpo.com/eng/index.asp
404 Not Found



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 09:04:31 AM
Hmmm... Remember Joran's addiction to poker, including online gambling? His brother is in media, film or production right?     Online gambling rings were busted a few years ago bc they were being used for money laundering through Costa Rican backs, as well as Venezuelan & Nassau accounts. Several mafioso were busted here in NJ, NY & PA. Some of these people are so clean cut you'd never know. My son wrestles a boy whose daddy is still in jail for this racketeering scheme that I'm referring to. Adorable kid, gorgeous mom, sweet grandparents, daddy is gorgeous as well...but he's in prison still for a few more years. Im talking bookoo bucks here. Anyway, online gambling revenue was being used to launder narcotics money.  I sure as hedoubletoothpicks think this following article is VERY interesting... Listen, it'd be a longshot to have a connection, but where is human trafficking prevalent? Hmmm...Venezuela, Brazil, Costa Rica, Colombia, Malaysia, USA & that's just to name a few. Blonde's with fair skin bring in the most revenue. Period.

Narcotics, Prostitution, Racketeering - all connected in organized crime.

This article is old but all I did was take his name from the link that Texasmom just supplied. Here's her link to the ad that's giving a 404:
http://calvinayre.com/aruba-gaming-congress/

Here's the old link I found with a few snippets, note it's from 2006:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Zns0Fc64dQYJ:www.gambling911.com/031106Cnews.html+calvin+ayre+arrested&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Snipped:
Just one day after announcing its list of this year's billionaires, Forbes Magazine received news late Friday night that the man appearing on its cover, Calvin Ayre, had his sprawling Costa Rica mansion under siege by local law enforcement agents.

Ayre is the newest billionaire and one of a handful of online gambling entrepreneurs appearing on this year's prestigious listing.  It is Forbes biggest selling issue of the year.  Mr. Ayre runs Bodog.com, a high volume online casino and poker room.

Snipped:
A call to US Justice officials by Gambling911.com sources within the States went unanswered last Friday evening, but by Saturday morning nobody from the DOJ seemed aware of any investigation, according to these same sources.  Calvin Ayre is a Canadian.

According to the special issue of Forbes Magazine, Canadian playboy Calvin Ayre went down to Costa Rica a decade ago and began taking illegal bets over the Internet.

Now he’s worth $1 billion (see cover story). Making a billion just isn’t what it used to be. In its inaugural ranking of the world’s richest people 20 years ago FORBES uncovered some 140 billionaires. Just three years ago we found 476. This year the list is a record 793, up 102 from last year. They’re worth a combined $2.6 trillion, up 18% since last March. Their average net worth: $3.3 billion.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 09:05:13 AM
Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmm


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 09:07:48 AM
My post # 754, I meant to add this at the bottom:

Gambling911.com News Wire

Originally published March 11, 2006 1:01 am ET
 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 09:10:27 AM
Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmm[/b]

You've got that right, Titch.  There's so much  "hmmmmmmmmmm" in this, it has more verses than the 100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall song. 

Hmmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmm, hmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmm   mmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm

(Refrain)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Hmmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmm, hmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmm   mmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm

(Refrain)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Etc.
JMHO





Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 09:16:04 AM
What's  media company that Joran's brother works with?

This makes me brainstorm a bit about Paulus' involvement with Joran years ago. Besides him being a shady poppa that protects his crime ridden dna vessel, & also considering he loved poker & gambling as well, could he have been connected to organized crime on an international level? It very well could explain why he went to the lengths that he did to protect his son... Maybe bc there was a bigger network involved. Which would bring me to this: Maybe, just maybe, Joran was telling the truth where prostitution is concerned.

Muffy, when you read this, pretty please don't delete this. I know I'm referring to Natalee in here but what about if there's a connection? It's a longshot, I know...but wow it's pretty interesting!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 09:25:28 AM
What's  media company that Joran's brother works with?

This makes me brainstorm a bit about Paulus' involvement with Joran years ago. Besides him being a shady poppa that protects his crime ridden dna vessel, & also considering he loved poker & gambling as well, could he have been connected to organized crime on an international level? It very well could explain why he went to the lengths that he did to protect his son... Maybe bc there was a bigger network involved. Which would bring me to this: Maybe, just maybe, Joran was telling the truth where prostitution is concerned.

Muffy, when you read this, pretty please don't delete this. I know I'm referring to Natalee in here but what about if there's a connection? It's a longshot, I know...but wow it's pretty interesting!

No worries, Titch.  I wouldn't move anything unless the thread just starts going post after post in regard to Natalee.  But if you're looking at connections, I can see the possibilities.  That has already become very apparent in Natalee's case imo.    I haven't been to Aruba, (and never will)  but I've spent time in the Bahamas over the years, and I can tell you first hand it's hard NOT to find connections.  Everything seems connected some way, and it comes back around.  Again and again. 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 09:42:45 AM
What's  media company that Joran's brother works with?

This makes me brainstorm a bit about Paulus' involvement with Joran years ago. Besides him being a shady poppa that protects his crime ridden dna vessel, & also considering he loved poker & gambling as well, could he have been connected to organized crime on an international level? It very well could explain why he went to the lengths that he did to protect his son... Maybe bc there was a bigger network involved. Which would bring me to this: Maybe, just maybe, Joran was telling the truth where prostitution is concerned.

Muffy, when you read this, pretty please don't delete this. I know I'm referring to Natalee in here but what about if there's a connection? It's a longshot, I know...but wow it's pretty interesting!

No worries, Titch.  I wouldn't move anything unless the thread just starts going post after post in regard to Natalee.  But if you're looking at connections, I can see the possibilities.  That has already become very apparent in Natalee's case imo.    I haven't been to Aruba, (and never will)  but I've spent time in the Bahamas over the years, and I can tell you first hand it's hard NOT to find connections.  Everything seems connected some way, and it comes back around.  Again and again. 

Muffy, I went to school to work in the med field but didn't finish due to a bad breakup. I lived in Fla at the time & moved back to Jersey after my ended engagement. I went to work at CitiBank right away. It's now Citigroup. I worked with funding accounts that have Nassau & Puerto Rico sweeps every single day. I dealt with investments. I worked with foreign trade. I talked to traders on Wall St on a daily basis. Ok, having said that, we were taught a lot about money laundering and what to look for. For example, most of us knew that Enron was doing something shady & that their company heads were doing questionable stuff YEARS before their collapse. Muffy, I'm talking serious stuff here, a lot of money. their accounts never balanced out. Never. Sometimes illegal companies are fronted by larger conglomerates in order to wash their funds clean, which would help to prevent any and all nations of seizing said funds. Some of the biggest money in our world, not nation but world, is fronted by oil & gas companies. Who's the common denominator?

Something to think about: If defense attorneys know they can get their client off by passing the blame & creating confusion, what makes people think companies worth trillions don't do the same?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 09:54:58 AM
It's been "follow the money", hasn't it, Titch?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 10:22:08 AM
It's been "follow the money", hasn't it, Titch?

Yep. It's so frustrating bc following the money never ends.

Do you know who in Congress back Valero in their endeavors here in the US? If you work for the give in America, your investments & the way you vote are public, right?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 10:24:06 AM
It's been "follow the money", hasn't it, Titch?

Yep. It's so frustrating bc following the money never ends.

Do you know who in Congress back Valero in their endeavors here in the US? If you work for the give in America, your investments & the way you vote are public, right?

Govt NOT give. My stupid "smartphone" needs to go back to school. I'm tired of taking the blame for all my typos due to my phone correcting the words darnit!


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 10:27:20 AM
It's been "follow the money", hasn't it, Titch?

Yep. It's so frustrating bc following the money never ends.

Do you know who in Congress back Valero in their endeavors here in the US? If you work for the give in America, your investments & the way you vote are public, right?

Govt NOT give. My stupid "smartphone" needs to go back to school. I'm tired of taking the blame for all my typos due to my phone correcting the words darnit!

Don't worry about the typos Titch.  It's the content of your posts that matters.   ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 10:37:15 AM
It's been "follow the money", hasn't it, Titch?

Yep. It's so frustrating bc following the money never ends.

Do you know who in Congress back Valero in their endeavors here in the US? If you work for the give in America, your investments & the way you vote are public, right?

Govt NOT give. My stupid "smartphone" needs to go back to school. I'm tired of taking the blame for all my typos due to my phone correcting the words darnit!

Don't worry about the typos Titch.  It's the content of your posts that matters.   ::ElfMonkey::

Lol & thanks. My heart's in the right place.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Question: Is there a way to find out what government officials were involved in Natalee's case vs Robyn's case? Also, is there a way to find the government officials that voted FOR The Natalee Holloway Resource Center vs voted AGAINST it? When NH went missing, was the net used as much as  microfiche? I'm wondering if I should go to our library to pull fiche?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 22, 2011, 12:44:45 PM
What's  media company that Joran's brother works with?

This makes me brainstorm a bit about Paulus' involvement with Joran years ago. Besides him being a shady poppa that protects his crime ridden dna vessel, & also considering he loved poker & gambling as well, could he have been connected to organized crime on an international level? It very well could explain why he went to the lengths that he did to protect his son... Maybe bc there was a bigger network involved. Which would bring me to this: Maybe, just maybe, Joran was telling the truth where prostitution is concerned.

Muffy, when you read this, pretty please don't delete this. I know I'm referring to Natalee in here but what about if there's a connection? It's a longshot, I know...but wow it's pretty interesting!

1st cell/computer activity: Joran

2:26 - 2:34 - Joran to Deepak cell

1st cell/computer activity: Val

2:34 - Val checks Hotmail




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 22, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
What's  media company that Joran's brother works with?

This makes me brainstorm a bit about Paulus' involvement with Joran years ago. Besides him being a shady poppa that protects his crime ridden dna vessel, & also considering he loved poker & gambling as well, could he have been connected to organized crime on an international level? It very well could explain why he went to the lengths that he did to protect his son... Maybe bc there was a bigger network involved. Which would bring me to this: Maybe, just maybe, Joran was telling the truth where prostitution is concerned.

Muffy, when you read this, pretty please don't delete this. I know I'm referring to Natalee in here but what about if there's a connection? It's a longshot, I know...but wow it's pretty interesting!

No worries, Titch.  I wouldn't move anything unless the thread just starts going post after post in regard to Natalee.  But if you're looking at connections, I can see the possibilities.  That has already become very apparent in Natalee's case imo.    I haven't been to Aruba, (and never will)  but I've spent time in the Bahamas over the years, and I can tell you first hand it's hard NOT to find connections.  Everything seems connected some way, and it comes back around.  Again and again. 

Muffy, I went to school to work in the med field but didn't finish due to a bad breakup. I lived in Fla at the time & moved back to Jersey after my ended engagement. I went to work at CitiBank right away. It's now Citigroup. I worked with funding accounts that have Nassau & Puerto Rico sweeps every single day. I dealt with investments. I worked with foreign trade. I talked to traders on Wall St on a daily basis. Ok, having said that, we were taught a lot about money laundering and what to look for. For example, most of us knew that Enron was doing something shady & that their company heads were doing questionable stuff YEARS before their collapse. Muffy, I'm talking serious stuff here, a lot of money. their accounts never balanced out. Never. Sometimes illegal companies are fronted by larger conglomerates in order to wash their funds clean, which would help to prevent any and all nations of seizing said funds. Some of the biggest money in our world, not nation but world, is fronted by oil & gas companies. Who's the common denominator?

Something to think about: If defense attorneys know they can get their client off by passing the blame & creating confusion, what makes people think companies worth trillions don't do the same?

I agree Titch.


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4838.msg998640#msg998640
ARUBA - PROTECTING THE HEROIN AND MONEY LAUNDERING RACKET


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 22, 2011, 01:09:15 PM
(http://www.kbbpoker.com/images/PrizeFix1.jpg)
The Aruba trip was a turning point for me. Besides cashing in the main event, I made a final table of a side tourney, made good money in side cash games – and most importantly met someone who turned me on to the idea of propping online. He had been doing it for about a year and explained the how the deals worked. It sounded intriguing and I looked into it when I returned home.
As most of you know, propping involves starting new tables, playing heads-up, and playing short-handed. As soon as a table fills up and the game gets good, you have to leave the table.
http://guinnessandpoker.blogspot.com/2005_07_03_archive.html
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MAFIA HEROIN-MOVERS:
Gambino family
Cunterras
Michael Posner
http://www.ipsn.org/themob.html


HOW THEY ARE ALL CONNECTED:
The Intercon Financial Bank on Aruba is represented by the law-firm Croes & Wever. One of the partners is former Minister of Justice Hendrik Croes.
<snip>
Hendrik Croes – a brother of the island's legendary leader, the late Betico Croes who guided Aruba to its semi-independent status in the Dutch realm – is one of the leading political figures on the island. He led several election campaigns for the MEP, now in the opposition. The Croes Family has been accused of ties with Cuntrera-Caruana. The Sicilian mafiosi payed for a trip of another brother, Rudy Croes (who succeeded Hendrik as Minister of Justice in a previous MEP government) as party secretary to a meeting of the Socialist International in Turkey.
<snip>
According to Canadian police reports, in 1978, Pasquale Cuntrera owned the Holiday Inn Casino
<snip>
DEA agent David Lorino, the case-officer in Operation Wiseguy, claims that "when the Cuntrera's moved to Venezuela they carried some 15 to 30 million dollars with them, which were invested in hotels in Caracas, but also on Curaçao and Aruba."
<snip>
He told us that his ships transported narcotics and money from Caracas to Aruba and Europe," says Lorino. As mentioned before Canadian investigations show that the clan used Aruba as a trampoline for cocaine to North America. (72)
<snip>
The island has been a smugglers' paradise - admits Prime Minister Eman.
<snip>

The US Attorneys Office in Miami gathered an insight in this pattern when, in December 1993, it indicted – among others – Aruban business-men Randy Habibe and Jossy Arends in its case against the La Costa Cartel. This 'enterprise' is accused to have smuggled some 80 tons of cocaine and 250,000 pounds of marijuana to the United States, and laundering some 800 million US dollars from 1980 onwards.

The Arubans managed the logistics. They brought in the precursor chemicals necessary for the production of cocaine out the coca leaves; they bought the planes and ships to transport the merchandise; and last but not least, they laundered the proceeds through the accounts of their import-export firms in the Aruban Free Zone, skimming a percentage for their services.
<snip>

The Cuntrera-Caruana clan had links with another Aruban bank: the Interbank.
<snip>
An amount of money is deposited cash at a bank and the bank lends the money back: now there is a clean and legitimate source of earnings.
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The Interbank is owned by the Mansur Family.
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company-ownership or real estate property could well be hidden through the construction of Aruban off-shore limited liability companies offering strong secrecy provisions.
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http://www.tni.org/detail_page.phtml?page=archives_tblick_aruba
Paulus “ has worked as an attorney for the Aruban judicial system for court prosecutors. PAULUS then was given a different assignment: the government wanted him to only set up contracts.
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/extra/pvds.htm


(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7117/slootfamse9.jpg)
Joran bijna een jaar oud - samen met rijn ouders op de bank in Arnhem
TRANSLATED:
Joran almost a year old - with rijn parents on the bank in Arnhem
We know that Paulus van der Sloot was living in Holland where he was an attorney. In fact, he may have either worked for a bank or had a bank as his client. He became an attorney and assisted citizens who had conflicts with government in Arnhem. (source: Chapter 1 of Joran's book: Island boy)

 4. his dad at the time worked at the social legal aid office in Arnhem


8. in 1990 Paul van der Sloot was offered a job at the "Central Bureau of Legal and General Affairs on Aruba.
(source: Chapter 1 of Joran's book: Island boy)

Aruba: Competent Authority: Centraal Bureau Juridische Zaken en Algemene
Zaken (Central Bureau Legal and General Affairs), Att. Ms. Cecilia Solagnier,
Vondellaan 19-C, Oranjestad, Aruba; tel: 011-297-835002; fax: 011-297-831772
http://tinyurl.com/dm45an


OFFSHORE BANKING FOLKS – THAT IS WHAT PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT WAS WORKING WITH THE CENTRAL BUREAU OF LEGAL AND GENERAL AFFAIRS ON ARUBA.
PROFESSIONAL OFFSHORE INCORPORATIONS AND OFFSHORE BANKING SERVICES SINCE 1995

Q. What is an Apostille?
An Apostille is a form of verification issued by Competent Authority in the country verifying the signature and seal
of a notary or other public officer, so that the document  bearing his/her signature and seal can take effect in countries which have ratified the Hauge Convention for the Abolition of Consular Legtalistation of 1961. It is normally possible to obtain the Apostille on a same day or next day basis.
http://offshoresimple.com/apostille.htm

You open a bank account in Aruba through the mail. You do not have to go there in person.
You get an Apostille to basically notarize your documents for approval.
You get an Apostille at the CENTRAL BUREAU LEGAL AND GENERAL AFFAIRS!http://offshoresimple.com/apostille.htm#aruba
WHERE PAULUS WORKED in 2004 - 2005 he said in his interview.


Edit to change red to green.  MB




Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Kermit on November 22, 2011, 01:34:34 PM
It's been "follow the money", hasn't it, Titch?

Yep. It's so frustrating bc following the money never ends.

Do you know who in Congress back Valero in their endeavors here in the US? If you work for the give in America, your investments & the way you vote are public, right?

Govt NOT give. My stupid "smartphone" needs to go back to school. I'm tired of taking the blame for all my typos due to my phone correcting the words darnit!

Don't worry about the typos Titch.  It's the content of your posts that matters.   ::ElfMonkey::

Lol & thanks. My heart's in the right place.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Question: Is there a way to find out what government officials were involved in Natalee's case vs Robyn's case? Also, is there a way to find the government officials that voted FOR The Natalee Holloway Resource Center vs voted AGAINST it? When NH went missing, was the net used as much as  microfiche? I'm wondering if I should go to our library to pull fiche?

Paulus buddy from the old Tilburg days is the Prime Minister - Oduber 1991
and ZWINKELS WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL IN 1991 (we also know that this zwinkels guy was involved in mafia money too and that is why he was forced to resign for a period of time -

All the main players knew each other during his time in office

Governmental authorities
Mr. J.H.M. Zwinkels - Attorney General
Mr. B. Vocking - Deputy Director, Aruba Correctional Institute
Ms. C. van den Berg - Head of the Rehabilitation and Child Welfare Council
Ms. Y. Spellen - Director, Guardianship Board
Mr. J. van de Straten - Head of the National Bureau of Investigations
Mr. L. Rasmijn - Police Commissioner
Mr. E. Bennet - Head of the Airport Immig ration Authorities
Mr. R. Martus - Inspector of Police
Ms. A. Peterson - Department of Foreign Affairs Liaison officer to the CPT
http://www.cpt.coe.int/documents/nld/1996-27-inf-eng-1.htm


"Van der Sloot got a different assignment: the government wanted him to only set up contracts.... He became cabinets leader for the public ministry and gave classes of Administrative Law at the local university. "
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/extra/pvds.htm

Zaandam keeps on saying in his book, two days after 5/29, the body of Natalee H. may have already been found and Cvp [police commissioner] looked the other way to do a favour for Paul Van der Sloot (ex chief of staff of Cabinet PG [Prosecutor General] J.Zwinkels ).
[translated by Getagrip]
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/09/ex-commissioner-stanley-zaandam-in-his.html


Zwinkels is back in power as attorney general in 1995
In 1995 Zwinkels is the Prosecutor in Aruba.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/29/msnbc/

1995 - Paulus became cabinets leader for the public ministry and gave classes of Administrative Law at the local university.

1996 Zwinkels is fired from the Attorney General job
Fruitful discussions we re held with the Aruban Attorney General, Mr J. H. M. Zwinkels, and several senior officials
http://www.cpt.coe.int/documents/nld/1996-27-inf-eng-1.htm

By 1996 - 97 Paulus is on the judges panel in Aruba. (Beth Holloway Loving Natalee page 129)


1997-1997 - Zwinkels left after a 2 yr battle with the Aruban gov't (they accused him of stealing drug money)


July of 1998 he has his Attorney General job back 07-07-98 Attorney General (Acting) Zwinkels, Jan H. http://www.dlhoffman.com/publiclibrary/chiefs/2d52.html
Sources in Amsterdam for the Aruban and confirm that the amount was in cash was delivered to the CRI, because Attorney General Zwinkels feared for leaks to the Aruban banks.
Also Zwinkels would have expressed that he does not have the money because it wanted to dispose of it owned by the Dutch Minsitry of Justice.


 
Aruba is already infested with mafia
Cuntera mafia and banks  were set up to launder money out of Aruba through Canada

2000-Last Updated: 7/6/2000 Attorney General (Acting) Zwinkels, Jan H.
http://www.byegm.gov.tr/interhaber/ulkeler_hukumetler/chiefs8.html


2001 Posner purchases the Brickell Bay Casino


2002 -Zwinkels would have left office somewhere between March and May of 2002

2003 – January 2 – Paulus starts his judge-in-training and was said to of heard some cases.
Paulus: I am replacing member of the joint court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba[1] and I am appointed for a period of three years, from 1/1/2003 till 1/12006.
(Twan Huys interview with Paulus)

2002- assuming a three-year term Rudd Rosingh would have taken office somewhere
between March and May 2002

2003 Attorney General Rosingh, Ruud
http://www.theodora.com/wfb2003/aruba/aruba_chiefs.html


Between 3-02-05 and 5-29-05 --Teresa Croes Fernandez-Pedra is District Attorney


Teresa Croes Fernandez-Pedra GAVE FLANEGIN PERMISSION TO TALK TO DAVE,

The DA, Theresa Croes-Fernandes Pedra, will retire on January 1st, 2008
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/02/15/

Paul van der Sloot is a high ranking official in the judicial system and is close friends with Ben King, whom now works at the prosecution office


Johan Paul Sjiem Fat
is on the Board of Dreictors for Aruba Financial Center Association:
http://www.afca-aruba.com/board_directors.html
(offshore corps. etc. He is an Officer along with Lincoln D. Gomez who is the President)


Johan Sjiem Fat and Lincoln Gomez are on the board of directors of
Aruba Financial Center Association.

Also Gomez is in charge of litigation, corporate Finane and Telcom for AFCA
http://www.afca-aruba.com/news/new_fiscal_framework.html


Rick Zeolla the General Manager at the Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris


“then went on to pick up Sebastian at the ZEOLA family (Paulus VDS Witness Statement 06/24/05)
* Zeolla's wife is a member of IFA
* Mark Purcell (MIP6 worked at Marriott hotel)
* Joran and his friends stayed at Marriott hotel (picture with belt around boys neck
* Valenjtin also partyed at Marriott hotel with his friend Jimmy Rock (his father was the manager who left shortly after Natalee disappeared and he went to Mexico)
* Jillian JOHNSON" and she now lives in the States. Her father had built the "Marriot Hotel
*  Some of our friends are members of “Friends of Aruba” and were closely involved with the search of the girl. Paulus VDS Witness Statement 06/18/05
* Karin Janssen, Rudy Croes, Judge Kuerdil, Judge Smid are all friends of Paulus van der Sloot


Ritz Carlton hotel will yield 20 million dollars annually, including indirect revenue from taxis and restaurants.
http://www.amigoe.com/english/aru_late_news.htm#AG%20gives%20chief%20district%20attorney%20an%20official%20warning


Tourism accounts for 70 percent of the economy in the territory of 97,000 people, with 73 percent of visitors coming from the United States.


ARUBA PROTECTING MONEY LAUNDERING, TOURISM, DRUGS
imo










Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 01:42:15 PM
For the first time since 2005 I finally feel like I'm making a difference. We're onto something. I know we are. I feeeeel it...


Btw, Gambino was only a small faction. There's multiple names that were/still are involved in their racketeering scheme.


This is a must read link for any naysayers out there that think this may not be a possibility. I'm supplying the cached link in case it miraculously disappears:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Fq0NlULGmEMJ:www.bookmakersreview.com/Ratings_history/+Mafia+bust+online+poker+money+laundering+costa+rica&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 01:56:11 PM
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Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 02:41:54 PM
Valenjtin. Since the very beginning, I've always thought he was part of Natalee's case...but how much?

I'm wondering if any of his connections are connected to somebody in Robyn's case.

Who held that concert/dance/beach party that Robyn & Gary were pictured in again?


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 22, 2011, 03:01:16 PM
ARUBA AND NORTH KOREA'S NUCLEAR-ARMS PROGRAM CONNECTION

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 179:
  All through August a good case seems to be building against the suspects.  The FBI is optimistic.  And the viewing public, vigilant via TV, is too.  Evoking even more support, Dr. Phil invites me to appear on his show September 7 and sends a polygraph expert, Jamie Skeeters, to the island to offer the suspects the opportunity to participate in lie-detector tests.

Accompanying Jamie are two former FBI agents.  They know a lot about this island and explain to us that Aruba is a "trampoline" country.  "A Dutch military official is concerned that North Korean diplomats assigned to Cuba are laundering drug proceeds from South America in Aruba," one of the agents tells us.  "The money is being used to finance North Korea's nuclear-arms program."  The retired FBI agent says Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice has had meetings about this concern already.  This is one very busy little island.

Page 196 - 197: We've been in communication with everyone from Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice to Dog the Bounty Hunter trying to get help.  In Birmingham to attend a Sunday service where Secretary Rice's father used to preach, I have the extraordinary honor of sitting down with her for a few minutes.  Entering her hotel suite, I am led to my seat.  The most powerful woman in the world enters, and I can actually feel it as I approach her to shake hands.

She sits down across a coffee table from me.  Behind her are two official-looking men.  I start talking a hundred miles a minute, because I know my time with her is limited and I want to get it all in.  I tell her about Natalee's case and about everything that went wrong from the first night we arrived on the island.  How suspicious the events surrounding the investigation have been.  I tell her what I've learned about money laundering in Aruba to support the North Korean nuclear-arms program and about the drugs there.  She is very attentive. 


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Titch on November 22, 2011, 03:37:03 PM
ARUBA AND NORTH KOREA'S NUCLEAR-ARMS PROGRAM CONNECTION

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 179:
  All through August a good case seems to be building against the suspects.  The FBI is optimistic.  And the viewing public, vigilant via TV, is too.  Evoking even more support, Dr. Phil invites me to appear on his show September 7 and sends a polygraph expert, Jamie Skeeters, to the island to offer the suspects the opportunity to participate in lie-detector tests.

Accompanying Jamie are two former FBI agents.  They know a lot about this island and explain to us that Aruba is a "trampoline" country.  "A Dutch military official is concerned that North Korean diplomats assigned to Cuba are laundering drug proceeds from South America in Aruba," one of the agents tells us.  "The money is being used to finance North Korea's nuclear-arms program."  The retired FBI agent says Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice has had meetings about this concern already.  This is one very busy little island.

Page 196 - 197: We've been in communication with everyone from Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice to Dog the Bounty Hunter trying to get help.  In Birmingham to attend a Sunday service where Secretary Rice's father used to preach, I have the extraordinary honor of sitting down with her for a few minutes.  Entering her hotel suite, I am led to my seat.  The most powerful woman in the world enters, and I can actually feel it as I approach her to shake hands.

She sits down across a coffee table from me.  Behind her are two official-looking men.  I start talking a hundred miles a minute, because I know my time with her is limited and I want to get it all in.  I tell her about Natalee's case and about everything that went wrong from the first night we arrived on the island.  How suspicious the events surrounding the investigation have been.  I tell her what I've learned about money laundering in Aruba to support the North Korean nuclear-arms program and about the drugs there.  She is very attentive. 


Right, and now guess what these drug cartels are heavily investing in? They're investing in WIND ENERGY throughout the international world since all governments promote heavy lucrative money saving kickbacks. So these smart cookies that happen to be trade savvy in various equities are using the international government to launder their own damn money! Seriously! The money is clean once it goes through several facets of government & currency exchanges and then used to supply inferior nations with arms while each cartel is getting wealthier by the heroin & cocaine trade. Another black market that's being looked into is the fashion industry. Those knockoff name brands that are illegally made by sweatshops that people around the world LOVE to purchase are only making these drug cartels wealthier.

People need to wise up.


Title: Re: Robyn Gardner #2 8/26/11 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 22, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
Titch

Have you read Beth Holloway's "Loving Natalee - A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith".  I have read it three ... four times from cover to cover and certain topical portions over and over again.  My first ... most treasured copy ... was literally falling apart.  Hubby rebound it for me.  My DIL bought me another copy and mailed my original off to Heaven only knows where/who and it was returned with a coveted autograph of Beth Holloway.  DIL presented it to me in a plastic see-through case a year ago for my birthday.  I knew this gal was a keeper