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Missing Persons - High Profile => Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO => Topic started by: MuffyBee on October 11, 2011, 05:39:37 PM



Title: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: MuffyBee on October 11, 2011, 05:39:37 PM
Please post Who's Who in Lisa Irwin's case in this thread.


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: seahorse on October 12, 2011, 12:34:22 PM
Lisa Ann Chivalette Netz, 36, (obit) 

  Self-employed house cleaner Lisa Ann Chivalette Netz, 36, of New Castle, Del., a self-employed house cleaner, died April 10. Mrs. Netz was born and reared in Chester. She attended schools in the Chichester School District and earned a certificate in computer technology at the Delaware Technical School.Mrs. Netz was a self-employed house cleaner since 1993. She was a member of Alcoholics Anonymous for the last eight years. Mrs. Netz was the daughter of John Chivalette...

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: seahorse on October 12, 2011, 05:09:59 PM
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Deb's Maternal Grandmother: Margaret Pretti Chivalette
Deb's Uncle: John Chivalette
Deb's Uncle: Vincent Chivalette
Deb's Aunt: Cindy LeRette
Deb's Cousin: Mike LeRette - Cindy's Son


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2011, 02:30:33 PM
Birth:  Sep. 5, 1964  
Death:  Apr. 10, 2001  

Lisa Ann Chivalette Netz, 36, of New Castle, DE formerly of Delaware County.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Lisa was born in Chester where she was reared and educated in Chichester School District. She attended Delaware Technical School earning a certificate in the computer field. She was a self-employed house cleaner for the last 8 years. She has been a member of Alcoholics Anonymous for the last 8 years. She was the daughter of the late John Chivalette, Jr. who died in 1968.

She is survived by her husband of 16 years, David L. Netz, Jr.; 2 sons, Anthony and Phillip Netz both at home; 1 daughter, "Lil" Debbie Netz at home; her mother, Margaret Pretti Chivalette of Linwood; 2 brothers, John Chivalette of White Haven, PA and Vincent Chivalette of Linwood; 3 sisters, Cindy LeRette of Kansas City, MO, Debbie Shanko of Aston, PA and Kristin Mushinski of Linwood; many nieces, nephews and friends.



 ::snipping2::

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=23510022


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: seahorse on October 13, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=23510022

Photograph of on the above site -Lisa Ann Chivalette Netz (1964 - 2001) - Find A Grave Photos


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: MuffyBee on October 13, 2011, 07:42:38 PM
oh boy....stole it.

http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2011/10/06/news/doc4e8d126a97a3c717320879.txt

snipped;  not msm and could be false but still food for thought imo.

The heart-breaking ordeal involving a missing 10-month-old Kansas City, Mo., girl is weighing especially heavy on the minds of relatives here in Delaware County.

Deborah Netz Bradley, the mother of baby Lisa, is a second cousin to Donna Pretti, an investigator for the Delaware County Medical Examiner’s office, and Eddystone Patrolman Joseph Pretti. Donna and Joe are first cousins.




Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: MuffyBee on October 13, 2011, 09:27:59 PM
Go to case.net to look up Missouri court records.  Under Jeremy L. Irwin there is a case about paternity with a former girlfriend.  I think the former girlfriend once lived in that house.  So I'm thinking that the one boy belongs to Jeremy.
Thanks, I found that baby Lisa Renee Irwin is named after her Maternal Grandmother, Lisa A. Netz but I read somewhere that she was deceased. I will try to find where I saw that.

link to case net:

 https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/searchCases.do?searchType=name (https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/searchCases.do?searchType=name)


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2011, 10:26:10 AM

Do we know what the mother's brothers name is?

Found it - I think it's Tony:

https://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall#!/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1

 ::snipping2::
 So today Tony her brother put Grandma's old phone on our cell plan so that Debbie and Jeremy would have a way to communicate with us.  ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: MuffyBee on October 14, 2011, 10:44:49 AM
There is a Phillip Netz listed at their address on Lister.
http://radaris.com/p/Anthony/Netz/MO/


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: trimmonthelake on October 18, 2011, 02:15:49 PM
http://www.kmbc.com/slideshow/news/29518987/detail.html
Who's Who In the Lisa Irwin Case 10/18/2011
A look at the major figures in the disappearance of Lisa Irwin.


Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/slideshow/news/29518987/detail.html#ixzz1b9rxIezz


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 05, 2011, 12:31:54 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-investigation-184600224.html
Missing Baby Lisa Irwin Investigation Who’s Who
Yahoo! Contributor Network
By Carol Bengle Gilbert | Yahoo! Contributor Network – Tue, Nov 1, 2011


Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: cartfly on November 09, 2011, 06:04:40 PM
I put this together for those who are coming in late. I gleaned this from my own post as well as the other smart monkeys here.


Debbie/Deborah Netz Bradley: stay at home Mom, Mother of Lisa, girlfriend of Jeremy Irwin, estranged wife of Sean Bradley who she has a son with, last to see Lisa alive.
Deb does not have a license to drive.
(http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-new-details-emerge-as-parents-make-second-plea-photo)

https://www.facebook.com/DebiNetz?sk=wall  (https://www.facebook.com/DebiNetz?sk=wall)
 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003187442979&sk=wall (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003187442979&sk=wall)

 http://www.kctv5.com/story/15611288/authorities-intensify-search-for-missing-baby (http://www.kctv5.com/story/15611288/authorities-intensify-search-for-missing-baby)

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html  (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html)

 http://www.kmbc.com/news/29392699/detail.html (http://www.kmbc.com/news/29392699/detail.html)

Jeremy Irwin: boyfriend of Debbie, Father of baby Lisa, electrician, also has a 8 year old son (Blake) with Rasleen Raim. Rasleen lives in Marshall, MO and has not seen Blake in quite awhile. Jeremy went to court for custody and won. 
 http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-bradleys-family-talks-about-past-20111008,0,1316565.story (http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-bradleys-family-talks-about-past-20111008,0,1316565.story)

Phillip Netz: Brother of Debbie Bradley. Seen at grocery store buying wine and baby items the night Debbie got drunk, dropped Deb off and went to an unknown location for awhile that night. Unconfirmed when he returned to the Irwin residence. Claims he slept at the home that night. Claims Deborah was drunk. No confirmation on if he actually lives at the Irwin residence or where he sleeps.
(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41373_1749000701_8389_n.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/phillynetz  (https://www.facebook.com/phillynetz)
http://www.myspace.com/moguy410  (http://www.myspace.com/moguy410)

Samantha Brando: one of the neighbors  (next door) drinking with Debbie on the stoop till 10:30 on October 3rd. Has a four year old daughter (Maria) that they claim was watching a video with the kids in Debbie's house the night in question. Her and her husband James had seen a marriage counselor that day and decided to separate after that meeting.
(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187544_597638221_8033498_n.jpg)
http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha-Rook-Brando/597638221  (http://www.facebook.com/people/Samantha-Rook-Brando/597638221)
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/19/ddhln.01.html  (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/19/ddhln.01.html)

James Brando: husband of Samantha, had separated that day (October 3rd) with wife Samantha. Claims he stayed at friends overnight until Samantha called him to tell him Lisa was missing. He is ex military. Speculation that this is who the 2nd witness Mike Thompson saw and picked out of a lineup photo at 4:00 am.
(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/195343_511485004_6474723_n.jpg)
 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=511485004&sk=wall (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=511485004&sk=wall)
 
David Netz Jr: biological Father of Debbie Netz. Lives in Independence, MO. David posted this on a fb page early on regarding the cell phones:

David Lee Netz Jr.
"Here is a quick note about the 3 missing cell phones. Debbie's cell phone had been acting up and the speakers and microphone on it were continually only working intermittently. So Sunday October 2 when Debbie, Jeremy, Blake, Michael, and Lisa came over to Debbie's grandparents (My Mom and Dad) house to celebrate Blake's birthday my Dad gave Debbie his old plain jane phone that has NO way to collect contact information on it. Debbie transferred the service from her old phone to the one that my Dad (her Grandpa) gave her. When she went home later that night she had both of her phones out and started coping numbers one by one into the phone she got from her Grandpa. She didn't get them all done of course so she left them on the table. Jeremy's PERSONAL cell phone was also on the table. These 3 phones were the ones that were stolen."

Ashley Irwin: Sister of Jeremy Irwin and has been a spokesperson of sorts for Deb and Jeremy.
 https://www.facebook.com/ashley.irwin2010?sk=wall (https://www.facebook.com/ashley.irwin2010?sk=wall)

TANKO , JOHN S "Jersey":  lived at one time at 3718 N LISTER KANSAS CITY, MO
Year of Birth: 1969, homeless handman, former 5 month boyfriend of Megan Wright. Incarcerated recently on burglary charges and tampering with an automobile. Here is a photo from years ago. He presently is bald.
(https://www6.state.nj.us/DOC_Inmate/photo?id=1060349) Additional charges from years ago in New Jersey include:

SBI Number:    000425490B
Sentenced as:    Tanko, John
Race:    White
Ethnicity:    N/A
Sex:    Male
Hair Color:    Black
Eye Color:    Brown
Height:    5'6"
Weight:    160 lbs.
Birth Date:    March 19, 1969
1 count of :
2C:17-1*2 Arson-Aggravated /2 July 6, 1997
   
May 26, 1998 1 count of :
2C:28-5*3 Tamper/Retaliate With Witness/Informnt/3
   
served: May 26, 1998- July 11, 2003
https://www6.state.nj.us/DOC_Inmate/inmatesearch  (https://www6.state.nj.us/DOC_Inmate/inmatesearch)

more recent photos here:
 http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12179.40 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12179.40)



Megan Wright: claims her cell phone received a 50 second call from one of the Irwin's missing cell phones on October 3rd between 8:00-8:30 PM. She does not know who answered the call, then later Pinky (Megan) claims Dane had her phone Oct 3 and 4 and Dane living there about a week in the same house she lives in. Former girlfriend of 5 months of John "Jersey" Tanko.Per Judge Jenines show: "Megan" was seen near the Irwin's house several times the day after Lisa disappeared. Claims she does not know Deb or Jeremy Irwin.
 https://www.facebook.com/Juggalette.Skittles?sk=wall (https://www.facebook.com/Juggalette.Skittles?sk=wall)

(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/260623_673452540_692108192_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/371099_673452540_2114212431_n.jpg)

Lisa Parscale: First Witness Wife who had done media interviews regarding what her and her husband saw regarding a man carrying a baby sometime between 12-12:30 AM. Her husband has not spoken publicly and Lisa has done all of the media interviews. Lives around the corner from the Irwin's. The Irwin's home can be seen from their backyard.
 http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/crime/neighbor-says-husband-saw-man-carrying-baby-wearing-only-a-diaper (http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/crime/neighbor-says-husband-saw-man-carrying-baby-wearing-only-a-diaper)

Honesto-Ono Parscale: Husband and first to witness a man carrying a baby as he was leaving to go to work in front of his house.
 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000792845229&sk=wall (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000792845229&sk=wall)

Alonzo Washington: claims to be a crime activist and appears to be a media hoe'
http://www.myspace.com/alonzo_washington/blog/544586077  (http://www.myspace.com/alonzo_washington/blog/544586077)

Johnny Chivalette: Maternal Uncle of Deborah, he does not live in Missouri. He posted this early on on Face book:
"Lisa was born on November 11th , 2010 and was reported missing on October 4th , 2011 in Kansas City , Missouri. Lisa Renee had blue eyes and blonde hair. She was just 30 inches tall and weighed between 26 and 30 pounds. She was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with white kittens on it. The baby is described as having two bottom teeth, a small bug bite under her left ear, a beauty mark on her right outer thigh and currently has a cold with a cough. Anyone with information is asked to call the TIPS Hotline at 816-474-8477.
Awards   
In Loving Memory of Lisa Ann Netz ( Chivalette ) , the deceased Grandmother of Lisa Renee Irwin who passed away on 4/10/01 at the age of 36 years old. Lisa Renee was named after her Grandmother Lisa."

and he posted this as well:

"Johnny Chiaravallotti:

In 2001 , My sister Lisa passed away from a suspicious 'accidental drug overdose'. Lisa was the mother of Debbie , the mother of this missing 10 month old. This missing baby was named after her deceased grandmother. I am the Uncle of the mother (Debbie) of this missing child. My sister Lisa had 3 kids and was estranged from her husband , who was thousands of dollars behind in back child support and was living in Delaware close to his estranged wife and his 3 kids. He did not like it on the east coast. He was from Kansas City. My 36 year old sister mysteriously died from what they called an 'accidental overdose'. After her death , her estranged husband who owed thousands in back child support and didn't like living in Delaware anyway , took his 3 kids and returned to Kansas City. Debbie , the mother of this missing child , is one of them 3 kids. Now here we are 10 years after the mysterious and suspicious death of my 36 year old sister Lisa ... and the 10 month old baby who was named after her is missing. I have no been in contact with them for a few years so I don't know what's been going on in Missouri. But I will say that I have always been suspicious about my sister Lisa's estranged husband and whether or not he was involved in her death. He had plenty of motive. And he left Delaware very fast. Lisa's death looked like an accident so it was ruled an accident. But I know my sister and she was smarter than that. And her death occurred on the 10th birthday of her youngest son who found her dead in bed on his birthday. Is the disappearance of this child and the suspicious death of my sister connected ? Is this just a coincidence ? We have one Lisa dead and another Lisa missing. I love my niece Debbie , the mother of this missing child. And I have no idea who her boyfriend is. Nor do I know what was going on in their lives in the past few years. But I do know that I lost my sister Lisa 10 years ago and I will always be very suspicious about her death. Now this poor child is missing. I am curious to know if her grandfather was around.
12 minutes ago · Like · 2 people"

 https://www.facebook.com/find.lisa?sk=wall (https://www.facebook.com/find.lisa?sk=wall)

https://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Loving-Memory-of-Lisa-Renee-Irwin/300730869940449?sk=wall  (https://www.facebook.com/pages/In-Loving-Memory-of-Lisa-Renee-Irwin/300730869940449?sk=wall)

Rick and Melanie Irwin: Jeremy's parents, Lisa's Grandparents. They live in Missouri.
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/grandparents-of-lisa-irwin-say-her-parents-have-nothing-to-do-with-her-disappearance (http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_missouri/northland/grandparents-of-lisa-irwin-say-her-parents-have-nothing-to-do-with-her-disappearance)

Shane Beagley: Another neighbor that "Claims" to also been with Samantha and Deborah the night they were drinking on the stoop. Shane says he smoked and chatted with Deborah Bradley and her next door neighbor Samantha Brando from about 7:00 to 7:30 p.m. He claims to have left the two women on the porch at around 8:30 or 9:00 p.m. Shane noted that he saw Samantha Brando at her home at around 10:30 p.m., but did not see Bradley.

Dane L Greathouse:Megan Wright claims Dane, who had her phone October 3rd and October 4th answered the 50 second call. Claims he also lives in the "flop" house with about 7 others.

 http://djdiggler.xanga.com/profile/ (http://djdiggler.xanga.com/profile/)

 http://the-fend-with-the-green.xanga.com/profile/ (http://the-fend-with-the-green.xanga.com/profile/)

http://www.facebook.com/danediggler  (http://www.facebook.com/danediggler)

(http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/profile01/144/5030212aa6c749c79e2c34c9337ea67e/p.jpg)




















Title: Re: Who's Who in the Case
Post by: cartfly on November 23, 2011, 04:18:50 PM
A must read article about Deb and Jeremy and their past:

 http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/05/3250061/from-mother-hen-to-media-villain.html (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/05/3250061/from-mother-hen-to-media-villain.html)