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Thanks for the new thread Muffy!  ::boxingjoran::

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Merry Christmas to all    ::ElfMonkey::    ::santawink::     ::ElfMonkey::

Merry Christmas Magnolia and all the monkeys.  Wishing you all the very best.

Merry Christmas to all monkeys and guests who are here to support Natalee and Stephany!  ::ElfMonkey::  ::DancingSantaMonkey1::  ::ElfMonkey::

Picture at link

http://www.rnw.nl/caribiana/bulletin/amerikaanse-toerist-verdronken-op-aruba

Google translation

American tourist drowned in Aruba
Published on December 24, 2011 - 4:33 pm

SAN NICOLAS - A 48-year-old American tourist was Friday afternoon at Baby Beach in southeastern Aruba drowned. CPR by bystanders, also happens to be medically trained, to no avail.

The victim was on vacation with her husband and was part of a tour group led by a local tour operator. Snorkeling at Baby Beach was by the group.

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The investigation, the case study, but police stressed that there is no indication that a crime has been committed. In August, disappeared or drowned American Robyn Gardner after a snorkeling trip to Baby Beach.

Listen up, people!

If your significant other stuffs your stocking with tickets for an Aruban vacation  ::MonkeyEek::


... well ... let's just say Baby Beach snorkeling tours seem to be quickly overtaking the "hand in the pocket" system of disposal on One Happy Island.

DON'T GO PEOPLE ... sheesh. 

Speaking of the Hidden Hand cabal, oh that's right - it's Christmas.   ::santawink::  Maybe its best I left that for after the Holidays.

Love and Peace to the Monkeys, and to Red, and to Klaas, and to the AmazingMods.

 ::DancingSantaMonkey1::      ::DancingSantaMonkey1::      ::DancingSantaMonkey1::     ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

very cute Miss Magnolia.
Happy Holidays to you & your little friends - the animals.
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Awwww, I love it Magnolia!  ::MonkeyKiss::

Merry Christmas to you and yours too!    ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

It looked better in the preview.   ::snowmanlaugh::

It's lovely!  Merry Christmas!!   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Thank you MuffyBee!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::bee::

The Reason for the Season

Luke 2:8-11
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.  And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.  And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.


REDEEMING LOVE
From God's heaven to a manger,
From great riches to the poor,
Came the holy Son of God, a little child.
From the azure halls of heaven,
To a lowly manger stall,
Jesus came and here He gave His life for all.

Redeeming love, a love that knows no limit.
Redeeming love, a love that never dies.
My soul shall sing through-out the endless ages,
With choirs exalting of this great love on high.

From a loving heavenly Father,
To a world that knew Him not,
Came a man of sorrow, Christ, the Lord.
In my wandering He found me,
Touched my life with His great love,
And this Babe has grown to be my sovereign Lord.

Redeeming love, a love that knows no limit.
Redeeming love, a love that never dies.
My soul shall sing through-out the endless ages,
With choirs exalting of this great love on high.

The Gaithers

Thanks Magnolia.  Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Here is one of my favorite Christmas songs sung by my favorite recording artist.  She did this live in concert over 40 years ago in Central Park.

MERRY CHRISTMAS


http://www.youtube.com/v/qqrvtUz5MkI?version=3&hl=en_US

Last we heard he's doing some cocaine!   ::snowmanlaugh::

I love her too!  Thanks San!   ::MonkeyKiss::

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Merry Christmas to my Monkey friends

Best wishes for a blessed Holiday Season

To all the Monkeys and our Guest Monkeys ... MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL FROM SCARED MONKEYS …

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/12/25/merry-christmas-2011-from-scared-monkeys-glory-to-the-new-born-king/

DITTO--I am a Monkey of few words. I must be in the 'speak no evil' catagory!  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::MonkeyDevil2::
THANK YOU RED!  ::MonkeyKiss::  ::justice2NJ::  ::boxingjoran:: ::MonkeyHang::

Thanks Red, Merry Christmas!   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/41333-buskeda-intensivo-panort-di-aruba.html

Papiamentu translation:

bulto cu much drugs at mouth wariruri

sunday, 25 december 2011 15:42

diadomingo pasco nightfall police owing to wordo send in the area panort of aruba caminda have bultonan of drugs is drief. at once owing to saca helicopter also for so police can haci one buskeda in the area in lama. the patrol on ground owing to come across cu hendenan cu owing to mustranan where the bulto of drugs was. polisnan uniforma owing to as the area one bit sigura for so the buskeda can owing to wordo haci. departamento of drugs also owing to present at the lugar. they did take one bulto cu more or less one overall of 25 kilo of cocaina in various package. on lama the helicopter of police not owing to come across nothing more. here algo owing to go robez in the dropping cu was have. do not first trip cu is achieve bultonan cu is arrive ground. in pasado till even owing to detene person hour cu they owing to fly cu the bultonan mara cu cabuya y swim come ground. kizas have more bulto cu owing to come ground but eseynan if not owing to being achieve. as esun cu owing to come trece the go cune or others owing to happen hand pe y descend at water without calling police. on the photograph can achieve one view of the bulto of drugs carga for two acolyte of the departamento seccion crimen organiza cu is atende cu drugs.

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I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas, and has a great new year.   January should be interesting. 

 ::MonkeyDance::  Sleuth!  It's good to see you!  ITA, January should be interesting indeed~  ::bee::

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Saturday Night @ Confession 24dec'11

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This one's just creepy imo...I think that's Valentijn...top left...   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: 

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Ladies night @ Confession 21dec'11

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Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW

Filing Date: 12/13/2006
Case Type: Defamation (Slander/Libel) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

01/03/2012 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Dismiss (THIRD MOTION TO DISMISS ANDREQUEST FOR TERMINATING SANCTIONS)

04/16/2012 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Strike (PLAINTIFFS' EXPERT WITNESSROBERT A. LEONARD)

04/18/2012 at 08:32 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (T/D 4-23-2012)

04/23/2012 at 08:33 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (J/T 35 DAY EST.)

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/dec/25/gift-of-life/

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Vivian Marx is shown on her island cruise shortly before her near-drowning experience.

Gift of life

What began as a dream cruise for Spokane’s Vivian Marx became a medical nightmare after a near-drowning accident

Rebecca Nappi The Spokesman-Review

Jeannine Marx Fruci of Spokane almost died when she was born in 1955. She now knows why she didn’t.

“I was supposed to live to save her,” she says, touching the arm of her mother, Vivian Marx.

And then Fruci cries. Her mom does, too.

This Christmas day tale is part tear-jerker, part horror story – and many parts miracle.

It began the second week in October when Marx, 81, along with a dozen friends from Fairwood Retirement Village in north Spokane, boarded a cruise ship in Florida headed for the Panama Canal. On Oct. 13, the ship docked in Aruba. Marx signed up for an island excursion that included snorkeling.

But Marx had never snorkeled before. Yes, she says now, even 81-year-olds feel peer pressure.

“My mouthpiece didn’t fit, and I didn’t know how to work the fins,” she said. “I got saltwater in (the mouthpiece). That panicked me. Finally, I just got exhausted. The last thing I remembered was looking down and here was this fish and it was like looking into a fishbowl.”

A few hours later, Fruci, 56, who visiting a friend in Oakland, Calif., received a phone call from the Fairwood activities director. She told her that Marx was found floating face-down, her snorkeling equipment beside her.

An off-duty emergency room nurse and doctor who happened to be on the beach that day did CPR for 25 minutes. It finally worked.

Marx sat up on the beach and asked, “What’s going on?”

She was taken by ambulance to the hospital in Aruba. When Fruci talked to her mother by phone “she sounded normal,” Fruci said.

Marx’s travel companions returned to the cruise ship. The ship waited an extra hour so Marx’s belongings could be taken off the ship for later transport to the hospital.

Marx’s companions thought she would be kept under observation for a day or two, and then somehow catch up to the cruise ship.

But when people experience a near drowning, complications don’t often present for several hours. Saltwater insidiously irritates and compromises the lungs; infections set in. The body retains fluid. Organs can shut down.

Within 24 hours, the Marx siblings – Michael, Marie, Martin and Jeannine – knew their mom was in deep trouble. She could barely breathe when she spoke with them on the phone.

Fruci caught a red-eye from Oakland to Atlanta and then onto Aruba, landing on the Caribbean Sea island Oct. 16.

The nurses had warned Fruci that she would not be allowed to see her mother until the evening visiting hour. But the on-duty doctor took mercy on her, and Fruci was secreted into the room.

Marx was on a ventilator, heavily sedated and swollen from fluid retention.

“My mother looked like the Michelin man,” Fruci said. “I didn’t recognize her. I absolutely thought she was going to die.

“I just started whispering in mom’s ear: ‘I’m here. I’m taking you home.’ She started crying, so I knew she heard me.”

Next mission: Get Mom out of Aruba.

Fruci’s sister, Marie, is a former flight attendant whose friends own an air medical evacuation company in the Southwest. The company grandfathered Marx a membership, which slashed the cost of the air evacuation from $35,000 to $18,000.

Fruci’s mom became the talk of Aruba. A taxi driver begged Fruci not to tell the near-drowning story, because “tourism is our only industry.”

The owner of the snorkeling company tracked down Fruci, worried that family members would sue. (They won’t.)

By Oct. 18, all was ready for the air evacuation to Miami. A nurse handed Fruci a bill.

Fruci said, “No, you have to bill my mom’s insurance.”

An administrator then appeared.

“She explained that I have to pay my mother’s bill in full, or they cannot release (her),” Fruci said.

“I said, ‘What would happen if I couldn’t pay?’ She said, ‘Your mother would stay here.’ ”

Fruci called her husband in Spokane. Dave Fruci said, “Pay the bill.”

Fruci handed the administrator a credit card. The charge? Nearly $14,000.

 ::snipping2::

Marx weaned off the ventilator quickly. She and Fruci flew home to Spokane on Oct. 27, two weeks after the near drowning.

Marx then recovered at the Fruci’s home in north Spokane and moved back to her Fairwood apartment just a week ago. Lingering symptoms? A nagging cough and physical balance issues.

Mother and daughter are counting blessings this holiday.

 ::snipping2::

Fruci is grateful for those friends’ prayers, and for her husband, Dave, who handled many of the logistics stateside with his usual competent calm.

She is grateful for her two grown daughters who kept her laughing. (They have nicknamed the adventure: “Aruba Gone Wild.”)

Fruci is also grateful for her siblings.

“Even though I was the only one physically there in Aruba, they were all living it and going through it, too,” she said.

The family greatly appreciates the excellent medical care in Miami, as well as the long-distance help Marx’s doctors provided from Spokane.

Marx is grateful that she doesn’t really remember anything from the fishbowl moment until “waking up” in Miami.

“In Aruba, just faintly, I remember Jeannine,” Marx said. “I knew then I was going to fight to live.”

 ::snipping2::

Thanks Klaas.

The same Robert A. Leonard?

Between the outcomes of the Stephany Flores murder case and the Kalpoes defamation lawsuit ... the New Year will prove to be very interesting for those following the Natalee Holloway case.

Janet

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ROBERT A. LEONARD, Ph.D

Robert A. Leonard, Ph.D. is Professor of Linguistics at Hofstra University. His specialty is Forensic Linguistics as applied to U.S. law. He directs the Linguistics Program and the Forensic Linguistics Internships. A Fulbright Fellow for his Ph.D. research, he received his B.A. from Columbia College, where he was elected to Phi Beta Kappa, and his M.A., M.Phil., and Ph.D. from Columbia Graduate School, where he was a Faculty Fellow. He is lead researcher at Robert Leonard Associates, a consulting firm.

Leonard’s linguistic specialty of Forensic Linguistics applies the science of linguistic investigation to issues of U.S. law. Forensic Linguistics augments legal analysis by applying rigorous, scientifically accepted principles of analysis to legal evidence like contracts, confessions, and recorded speech.

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http://people.hofstra.edu/robert_a_leonard/


Lawsuit Claim

Surinamese brothers sue Dr. Phil for defamation
Daily News Wire
Article Last Updated: 06/13/2008 08:52:49 AM PDT

LOS ANGELES - Two brothers who filed an $800 million defamation suit against Dr. Phil McGraw and CBS over a broadcast concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway are already too tarnished to claim libel, according to attorneys for the defendants.

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A lawsuit filed in December 2006 by Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe maintains they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show, when it was alleged they gave Holloway a date-rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her. They also contend the episode implied they helped kill Holloway and dispose of her body.

The "Dr. Phil" segment included statements by Deepak Kalpoe that were "significantly manipulated and altered," the suit alleges. In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes' suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

But in court papers filed Wednesday, attorneys for CBS, McGraw and Kay Skeeters -- widow of Jeremy Skeeters, a private investigator hired by McGraw to interview Deepak Kalpoe -- maintain the brothers are "libel-proof."

They say the brothers' reputations were irreparably stained by prior published accounts of the Holloway case, meaning they cannot claim to have been damaged by the "Dr. Phil" broadcast.

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http://origin.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_9575645

s.t.

Texasmom, thank you for the article, "Gift of Life."

If not for her family, Vivian could have died in Aruba.  How disappointing that the taxi driver was so concerned about their tourism-based economy over the health and safety of a guest on their island.  Also, it might be a good idea for the hospital and the staff to reevaluate procedures involved in the treatment of accident victims and the bill collections.

Making a note to myself to add medical evacuation to my travel insurance.  That had to be a frightening experience for Vivian and her family!

http://arubaherald.com/politics/1860-minister-mike-de-meza-on-valero-shut-down-rumor.html

Minister Mike de Meza on Valero shut down rumor       
Monday, 26 December 2011 21:16

In a newspaper interview, Minister of Finance and Energy Mike de Meza said Valero Refinery has not decided to close the Aruba refinery, but the government knows that Valero, like other international corporations, is going through difficulties. He said there were two parallel crises affecting the industry: the financial economic crisis and the energy crisis.

This is causing imbalance on the world market and is a major challenge, he said. The crude prices are affecting product prices, the dynamics are not what they used to be in the past. Different corporations are closing refineries and Valero also has its challenges dealing with the world market situation, according to the minister. He explained that while in the past refineries would purchase crude three to six months in advance, they are at present only making purchases for one month at a time, since forecasts cannot be made for a few months in advance anymore. The minister said that this brings speculation, but he did not want to say that the information is not true, because a decision has not been taken yet. The government is aware that Valero has big challenges, and they are in daily contact with Valero as well as other countries to keep a tab on what is taking place and what the government can possibly do to help and guarantee that the Aruba refinery remains active.   ::snipping2::
 
 

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That near-drowning story is a horror one!  Imagine holding a person hostage if they can't pay their bill at the hospital.  And imagie if we did that in this country, the money we would save by duress on those who are not citizens here.  That is made worse by the fact that tourists are how Aruba makes its living unlike in this country where we are usually just stuck with the bill anyway.

Obviously, tourists are to be used for income only and if one of them needs something, well make them pay at all costs.

Aruba has learned nothing.

 ::rhino::

The Beth Holloway Interview
by Rachel Cohen

What prompted you to write the book “Loving Natalee: A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith”?

The writing of the book actually evolved over a period of time. Shortly after this happened to Natalee, I made a pledge that I would share her story with every high school I could, because I hoped that no other family would have to endure the challenges that we faced during our first few weeks in Aruba. I lived in Aruba for about four months while I was searching for her, and during the fifth month, I thought it was time for me to make good on my pledge as Natalee’s case was now in the hands of John Kelly, attorney at law. I began traveling and, over the course of two years, presented personal safety messages to over 20,000 high school and college students in 22 states. During this time I thought, “How could I reach more travelers?” and I started thinking about writing a book.

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Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament Of Hope And Faith

The True Story of the Aruba Kidnapping and Its Aftermath

By Beth Holloway with Sunny Tillman

Publisher: Harperone; 1 edition (Sep 27 2007)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0061452270
ISBN-13: 978-0061452277

s.t.

http://www.mylifetime.com/movies/natalee-holloway/the-beth-holloway-interview

 ::justice2NJ::

Self Edit - Post #37

http://www.mylifetime.com/movies/natalee-holloway/the-beth-holloway-interview


Fixed = San

Hi Anna!   ::HelloKitty::

I agree.

I read something in the Aruban papers a while ago about regulations on health care costs.  IIRC something changed at that time that relaxed regulations that had been in place on what tourists could be charged for medical services.  I remember thinking that those costs would probably be determined by how much they thought the particular person would be able to pay...which is scary.  I've looked around a little, but haven't found what I recall reading yet.  If I find it, I'll post it.

http://noticias.lainformacion.com/mundo/semana-del-lunes-2-al-domingo-8-de-enero-de-2012_vcOs1kvR3MDEMZsOoJ6pB/

Google translation

Week of Monday 2 to Sunday, January 8, 2012
15:10 h | lainformacion.com

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FRIDAY, 6

State Funeral of Panama .- three-time president of Panama and the three ousted Arnulfo Arias Madrid, with the transfer of his remains to the Metropolitan Cathedral.

Lima .- begins trial against the Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot, indicted as the alleged perpetrator of the murder of young Peruvian Stephany Flores Ramirez.

Havana .- Press Conference 53 House Literary Prize of the Americas, to be held from 16 to 26 January.

New York .- The New York Hispanic community celebrates the traditional Three Kings parade in downtown Manhattan.

Paris .- IV Symposium New World, with the Italian prime minister, Mario Monti, and finance ministers of Chile, Felipe Larrain, and France, François Baroin.

Vatican City Pope Benedict XVI .- officiating traditional Mass of the Epiphany of the Lord.
Barcelona (Spain) .- Failure Nadal Prize novel.

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http://www.dvdreleases.org/drama/justice-for-natalee-holloway/

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Justice For Natalee HollowayBuy DVD

Movie Details:

Release Date: December 6, 2011
Run time: 86 Minutes
Starring: Tracy Pollan, Stephen Amell, Scott Cohen, Grant Show, Amy Gumenick

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Synopsis

As a follow-up to the original movie “Natalee Holloway,” the Lifetime Original Movie “Justice for Natalee Holloway” closes in on the ongoing mystery of what exactly happened to the Alabama teenager who in 2005 mysteriously disappeared during her senior class trip to Aruba.

Four years after Natalee went missing, Joran van der Sloot, the last person to see her alive, continues to torment her grieving mother Beth by providing false information about Natalee’s fate, yet denying any responsibility for what happened to her.




I love that this video was included on the page.   ::MonkeyCool::

I hope everyone will take a few minutes to watch it, even though I know most of us have seen it before...imo it's a great reminder.

 :cry:

We won't give up either!   ::justice2NJ:: for Natalee!

http://youtu.be/G1wkagbyqv4

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Missing since 1:00 a.m. May 30th, 2005

Thanks San

Janet

May 26, 2005

I DROVE AWAY WITHOUT KNOWING

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway with Sunny Tillman

Page 14-15:  On Thursday May 26, 2005, Natalee came into my bedroom at three o'clock in the morning to tell me it was almost time to go. Everyone was gathering at a friend's house for the ride to the airport. My job was to pick everyone up at the airport when they returned on Memorial Day, Monday, May 30, 2005.

While Natalee was going to be out of town, Jug was going to his lake house to visit with his family and friends. In our marriage, the second for both of us, we rarely vacationed together. My son, Matt, had made his own plans with friends for the weekend, so it was the perfect time for me to take a much-needed, overdue trip to my family's lake house in Hot Springs, Arkansas. I had not been there in a very long time. Birmingham is about nine hours away, so it was just too long a drive since moving here to make the trip on a regular basis. I was very much looking forward to visiting with my family. Everyone's plans were made.

In the wee hours on this Thursday morning Natalee and I loaded her things in the back of the car and headed off to her friend's house. It was very dark at that hour, and we were both only half awake. But we did talk some. Small talk. We reviewed what she had packed, going through a mental checklist of passport, cash, camera, sunscreen, and the like. When we arrived at her friend's house, she came to life. The adventure she had been excitedly awaiting for months was finally about to begin. She jumped out of the car and bounced to the back to get her bag. I got out and walked around the car to help her. She gathered her things and looked up long enough for me to kiss her on the cheek.

"I love you! Have a great time!" I told her.

She replied, "Bye, Mom! Love you!" and slung her purple duffel bag over her shoulder.

The bag made her walk slightly bent to its opposite side. I got back in the car as she made her way up the long walkway to the front door. Turning the car around to leave, I stopped and looked back over my shoulder to see her go inside. The front door of the house opened just wide enough for her to slip in. I saw her silhouette in the beam of light that shone from inside. The light narrowed as the door closed, then disappeared completely. It was pitch-black again. I drove away not knowing that would be the last time I would ever see Natalee.


May 30, 2005

THE PROVERBIAL DREADED PHONE CALL

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway with Sunny Tillman

Page 23:  Rested and refreshed, we leave Memphis late Monday morning with Linda driving and Marilyn up front with her.  I take the backseat.  We sail along, chatting like we alway do, talking about our plans for another road trip one day soon.  Marilyn and I are happily speculating about what our daughters' reactions will be when they open their presents to find a set of extraordinary Wizard of Oz figures.  Natalee will gasp with excitement when she sees these.  Before we know it, we've crossed over into Mississippi.  Somewhere amid our conversation, between the chuckles and the small talk, my cell phone rings. I don't recognize the number, but answer it anyway, which I usually don't do.

It's a young girl.  "Mrs. Twitty?  My mom ... umm ... my mom, she umm ... wants to talk to you."  It's the daughter of Judi, the travel agent.  She developed appendicitis right before the trip, so she and Jodi didn't get to go to Aruba.  They are in Birmingham.  It seems like an eternity before Jodi takes the phone.

"Tell me what's going on," I say in a voice much firmer than the one I usually hear coming from my mouth.

She simply says, "Natalee didn't show up this morning to get on the plane."

And instantly I know.  It's more than a mother's intuition.  It's certainty.  Something terrible has happened.  I have just answered the proverbial dreaded phone call that no mother or father every wants to receive.  The one we fear from the moment our children are born.  The one that changes a parent's life forever.

s.t.

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http://www.amigoe.com/english/95984-financial-setback-tourism-fund-tpef-less-than-expected


Financial setback tourism fund TPEF less than expected         

TUESDAY, 27 DECEMBER 2011 11:59

ORANJESTAD — The parliament continued their discussion today of the supplements and changes in the budget of 2011. From the first question round and answers it appears that the financial setback for the tourism fund Tourism Product Enhancement Fund (TPEF) was less then expected. In addition, more money is needed for the Producto Aruba Program because contractors presented higher quotations for the various infrastructural projects.Minister of Infrastructure Benny Sevinger (AVP) said the aforementioned after answering questions in the first round. The cost estimates of the various contracts appeared too low because contractors presented ‘less competitive prices’, according to him. This is partly due to the government policy to award work to all contractors, said Sevinger. On the other hand, the quotations were higher because several requirements had changed in projects, for instance the streetcar project whereby the clinkers had to meet Dutch standards and were only available in The Netherlands. We also needed to find the correct method to weld the rails, which eventually turned out to be the ‘Haagse method’, and subsequently raising the costs, said Sevinger. For that matter, the extra money for Producto Aruba – 2.3 million florins – comes from the budget that was initially reserved for the aviation.
 

After questions about the setback for the Tourism Product Enhancement Fund (TPEF), Minister of Tourism Otmar Oduber (AVP) said this was less then mentioned in the supplementary budget, which states that the government had expected 1.9 million florins less on revenues. That expectation is based on 2 percent of the tourism tax on time share. There were some problems with the calculation of those revenues, Oduber says now; the setback therefore only appeared to be half the amount, namely 800,000 less than estimated. He eventually expects that the revenues for the privatized tourism bureau ATA this year will also be higher than expected. This means a beginning can be made this year with the so-called contingency fund, an emergency fund for situations or developments that are less favorable. 

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http://www.amigoe.com/english/95823-om-disclaims-imputations-on-mistakes-made

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/12232011_PoentjeCastroMurder_OneYearLater-1.png)


http://www.24ora.com/den-ambiente/41476-ripitishon-pa-ultimo-biaha-qrecordando-poentje-castroqhopi-interes-na-islanan-bes-via-tds-13-curacao-y-tambe-na-hulanda-via-rtv-7.html

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.Poentje_Un_Dia_den_Bida.jpg)

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/41304-a-recorda-un-ana-di-asesinato-di-poentje-castro.html

Papiamentu translation:

owing to recorda one year of asesinato of poentje castro

friday, 23 december 2011 21:54

amigonan y family of difunto poentje castro owing to uni in oracion diabierna night at home of his parents in apollostraat where past owing to being throw kill also. his amigonan owing to take away word y at end owing to as one minuut of silencio. his good coleganan of telearuba was present, owing to count ; cu presencia of minister of turism, transporte y job otmar oduber. at the door of the cura, where owing to achieve his curpa without life owing to place some candle. "brother where cu are you, good pasco" was the desire of all his amigonan at end of the night cu the symbolo of "peace" owing to despidi of another.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/12232011_PoentjeCastroMurder_OneYearLater02.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/12232011_PoentjeCastroMurder_OneYearLater01.jpg)

Totally off topic ::MonkeyCool::


 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::teddybear::

Thanks Klaas.  The clip of this precious baby made my day.

My son and DIL left on Tuesday to return home to the Island after staying for us over Christmas.  I miss them but I reeeaaally miss the my five year old grandson and five month granddaughter.  The baby in the video clip reminded me of NM and ... my arms are aching to hold her once again.

Janet

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: as I have said every year since Dec 31, 2005 -- May 2012 bring forth the truth for Natalee and bring her home.

Happy New Year everyone..........

Justice for Natalee and Stephany in 2012!

Happy New Year to All!  (http://bestsmileys.com/fireworks/5.gif)

My wish for 2012 is that justice will be realized for Stephany Flores and the outcome of the defamation lawsuit against Phil McGraw implies that that the Kalpoes lose big time.

Happy New Year All!!

:smt041

 ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Happy New Year!   ::MonkeyDance::

Happy New Year, Monkeys!

 ::justice2NJ::


 ::MonkeyDance::

Happy New Year to All.

 ::MonkeyKiss2::

Thank you Red.   ::MonkeyCool::

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/12/31/in-memoriam-celebrities-we-lost-in-2011-liz-taylor-james-arness-peter-faulk-steve-jobs-and-our-own-2njsons_mom/

In Memoriam …Celebrities We Lost in 2011: Liz Taylor, James Arness, Peter Faulk, Steve Jobs and our own 2NJSons_Mom

In Memoriam of celebrities we lost in 2011, and one of our own celebs … We say goodbye, but you will never be forgot.  So many of these celebs put a smile on our face and made us enjoy life, especially 2NJSons_Mom.

1.  2NJSons_Mom-  In Loving Memory of 2NJSons_Mom … Sadly in 2011, Scared Monkeys lost one of our own.Loss is always difficult and saying goodbye is especially hard when it is one of your own. She was loved by so many, read the many prayers & tributes. http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9480.0
Until we meet again, God Bless.Sadly, we learned over the weekend that 2NJSons_Mom, a long time beloved Scared Monkey and moderator had passed away. The shock of the news was only outdone by the tears. Our hearts and prayers go out to the family and friends of 2NJSons_Mom as we all at Scared Monkeys deal with her loss. As news spread of her passing, Scared Monkeys members expressed their sorrow, tears, condolences and prayers for 2NJSons_Mom and her family. Scared Monkeys would like to thank the family of 2NJSons_Mom for sharing her with us. She was a special person who touched many lives.  You touched so many of us with your character and just being you. The pain of letting you go is only comforted by knowing that Heaven just became a better place and that you are no longer in pain and in eternal peace with The Father.
It is with our deepest sympathies that we say goodbye to 2NJSons_Mom, a special person who helped make Scared Monkeys a special place and the world a better place.  Please know dear God that the memory and spirit of 2NJ’s Son Mom will forever be in our hearts and a part of Scared Monkeys. Until we meet again dear 2NJ’s Son Mom, I only say good bye for now, until we meet again my friend … thank you for making a difference and this world a better place.

With all of our profound sadness and love,

Your family at Scared Monkey … God Bless You and Rest in Peace my Friend.

 ::snipping2::

I still miss her so...  :cry:

 ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::justice2NJ::

texasmom - Happy New Year to you and yours!

Thank you for your steadfast work here and the information you bring!
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyKiss::

Happy New Year Monkeys!

Justice is coming!!!!

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::

http://www.rnw.nl/espanol/bulletin/per%C3%BA-anuncia-el-juicio-contra-joran-van-der-sloot

Google translation

Peru announced the lawsuit against Joran van der Sloot
Posted on January 1, 2012 - 2:48 pm

LIMA (ANP / RNW) - The Peruvian justice said the case against Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, charged with the murder of Peruvian Stephany Flores, will begin next Friday in Lima. Prosecutors said 30 years in prison asked for the defendant and the payment of a fine of around 50 000 euros.

This case is closely followed in Peru, the Netherlands and the United States. In addition to the suspect in the murder of young Flores, Joran van der Sloot also appears as a suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway American teenager in Aruba, in May 2005. To date Holloway remains missing.

In his first Van der Sloot confessed to killing Stephany Flores in a hotel room in Lima. As he did in a fit of rage when he saw that she was reading documents Peruvian Natalee Holloway on his laptop.
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http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/Detail.aspx?articleid=DMF20120101_046

Google translation

Joran van der Sloot in Lima Friday for Judge
Sunday, January 1, 2012, 4:06 p.m.

And a half years after the murder of Peruvian Stephany Flores Friday begins the trial of the Dutch suspect Joran van der Sloot. The prosecutor in Lima was already known that he is 30 years imprisonment claims against the 24-year-old. Justice also wants that Van der Sloot pay a fine of 50,000 euros.

The first hearing in the case of Van der Sloot begins at 10 am local time. The media attention will undoubtedly be very large.

In Peru, the Netherlands and the United States, developments surrounding the murder closely followed. Van der Sloot is not only suspect in the murder of 21-year-old Flores, but was rather too emphatically into view as a suspect of involvement in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway in Aruba on May 30, 2005, exactly five years before the violent death of Flores. Holloway is still missing trace.
 
In previous hearings, Van der Sloot confessed that he has slain Stephany Flores in his hotel room in Lima. He would have acted in a violent emotion, after he saw Flores in his laptop looked at documents on the Holloway case. The trial of Van der Sloot is held in the Lurigancho prison in Lima. This detention center is in the same district where the Castro prison is where Van der Sloot in custody.
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Grace

Thanks for all the heads ups from Peruvian sources that you afford the Natalee Holloway forum.

Five more sleeps!  I wonder how many more sleeps until a verdict is forthcoming against Joran van der Sloot for the brutal murder of Stephany Flores ... the brutal murder that would not have happened if a corrupt Aruban investigation had not prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

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THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL

February 13, 2008

Monkeys Media Reminder … Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio
February 13th, 2008

Beth Holloway:

47:50 - "I feel strongly that he (Joran) is a time bomb that is waiting to go off.  He will strike again.  It is not just for Natalee that I would like to see him behind bars.  I think he has shown us all he has no control over himself or his actions."

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/


June 11, 2010

Natalee Holloway Suspect Wanted in Peru
Published: 06/11/2010

LATEST DETAILS FROM CBS NEWS:

NEW YORK (CBS) Joran van der Sloot, the Dutch national who has been detained several times in the Natalee Holloway case, has now been named the prime suspect in the murder of a Peruvian girl, according to local reports.

Crimesider has been told that an Aruban prosecutor described van der Sloot as being on the run, but we have been unable to independently confirm it.

Early Wednesday morning, Stephany Flores Ramirez, 21, was found dead in a hotel room in Peru located on the avenue Miraflores district of Lima, Peruvian newspaper El Comercio reports. According to police reports, the girl was brutally stabbed and was found wrapped in a blanket in a pool of blood.

Ramirez was the daughter of racecar driver and well-known businessman Ricardo Flores.

According to Peruvian police, she was last seen with van der Sloot, who has not been located.

According to the Peruvian newspaper, the hotel room where Ramirez's body was found was registered under van der Sloot's name. Hotel employees also told police that they saw him with the girl over the weekend.

Five years ago, in May 2005, Alabama high school student Natalee Holloway disappeared during a senior class trip to Aruba. She was 18 when she was last seen leaving a bar with Joran van der Sloot, who was 17 at the time. He was detained in the case several times but Aruban authorities have said they don't have enough evidence to charge him.

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UPDATE: BNO News is reporting the Prosecutor's Office in Aruba has confirmed that Joran Van Der Sloot is a suspect in the death of a Peruvian woman. Interpol has reportedly issued an international arrest warrant.

UPDATE: A police news conference is expected in Peru within the hour to confirm or clarify reports concerning Joran Van Der Sloot's alleged involvement in this murder case. CBS42 will update the story as soon as that information comes in.   

An international news agency is reporting Joran Van Der Sloot is a suspect in the murder of a 21 year old woman in Peru. Van Der Sloot was the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba five years ago.  According to BNO News the victim in this new case is Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez who was found dead this morning after disappearing Friday. Her family says she was last seen leaving a casino with Van Der Sloot.

CBS 42 News will continue to follow this developing story.

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Natalee-Holloway-Suspect-Wanted-in-Peru/aX4VxsGyFkiLkrg1pW-65g.cspx

s.t.
 

 ::justice2NJ::

Janet    ::HelloKitty:: 

It was good to read that you had an enjoyable Christmas with your family, especially your grand kids!  Our Christmas season doesn't end until the Three Kings come bringing presents to the Infant Jesus this coming Sunday.  So, I have one more Christmas get-together this coming week--the fourth one!

Now, regarding the verdict for Joran.  It seems that the trial will take anywhere from 6 to 18 months! (http://bestsmileys.com/fainting/1.gif)


http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/peru_court_official_says_van_d.html

http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/joran-van-der-sloot-murder-trial-start

Joran van der Sloot murder trial to start

Published on 1 January 2012 - 6:41pm

More about: Joran van der Sloot Natalee Holloway Stephany Flores

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is to go on trial in the Peruvian capital Lima on Friday. He is accused of murdering Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010.

Lima’s Public Prosecutor has announced he will seek a 30-year prison term and a fine of 50,000 euros. The trial, which is expected to attract considerable media coverage, will begin at 10.00 hours local time. The trial will be held in Lima’s Lurigancho prison near the Castro Castro prison where Mr Van der Sloot is on remand.

Questioned by the Peruvian authorities, Mr Van der Sloot admitted killing Ms Flores in his Lima hotel room. He said he acted on a violent impulse when he saw her read documents on his laptop relating to the disappearance of US teenager Natalee Holloway.

The 24-year-old Dutchman is the main suspect in the disappearance Ms Holloway on the Caribbean island of Aruba in May 2005. He has never been charged due to lack of evidence. Ms Holloway was 18 when she went missing. Ms Flores was 21 when she was killed.

6 - 18 months!!!

(http://bestsmileys.com/fainting/1.gif)

One more traditional gathering for us too.  It takes place today in Vancouver at the home of one of hubby's sisters  Eldest son, wife and children left with friends this morning for a Mexican vacation so they will be missing.

I must be getting old.  I am looking forward to life returning to normal.  I wish I could blink ... wiggle my nose and ... the Christmas tree and decorations were instantly in their respective bins in the our storage area.

Grace ... I hope your last Christmas gathering goes well next Sunday.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Janet
11:55 AM PT

The articles from the NL state the trial will be followed closely in Peru, Netherlands, and the United States.  It will be interesting to see how much coverage is given in Aruba.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=10332

Joran van der Sloot murder trial to start
Posted by Aruba Daily on January 1st, 2012

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is to go on trial in the Peruvian capital Lima on Friday. He is accused of murdering Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on 30 May 2010. Lima’s Public Prosecutor has announced he will seek a 30-year prison term and a fine of 50,000 euros. The trial, which is expected to attract considerable media coverage, will begin at 10.00 hours local time. The trial will be held in Lima’s Lurigancho prison near the Castro Castro prison where Mr Van der Sloot is on remand.

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 :scratch:

Definition

remand - the act of sending an accused person back into custody to await trial (or the continuation of the trial)

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::monkeywine2:: ::MonkeyDance::


I notice that Aruba continues to call Joran "Dutchman" in their lame attempt to distance from him.  At long last, we will actually see him in a court of law even if for a different crime, one that never would have happened had Aruba done the right thing.

No worry.  He is being held in prison in custody awaiting trial/continuation of the trial until he is sentenced to 30 years in prison.   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino::

Happy New Year to you and your family!

And this trial would have never happened if this crime had been committed in Aruba, Stephany's brutal murder probably would have been ruled suicide.

jmo

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

This comment was posted to one of the Robyn Gardner articles from August.

http://arubaherald.com/court/779-attorney-michael-lopez-and-client-did-not-expect-the-case-to-become-so-complicated.html

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written by Len Galli , November 29, 2011
On Nov 10th I was staying at the RIU hotel when I was attached in my hotel by 2 burglars. The police came to investigate the incident. The hotel is not doing anything at this point. I am a US citizen and would like to contact an attorney to find out my rights.

Any help would appeciated.

Thank You
Len Galli   

Happy New Year!! I was in Las Vegas over the new year and saw that there is a Carlos & Charlie's going in at the Flamingo...It might be worth some research.

Hi KTF!  I'm rather surprised because CnC isn't as upscale as Vegas usually does things.  The Flamingo is a dying hotel/casino though IMO and are likely unable to attracted a higher quality nightclub.

http://lasvegasblog.harrahs.com/las-vegas-restaurant/first-look-inside-carlosn-charlies-at-flamingo-vegas/ (http://lasvegasblog.harrahs.com/las-vegas-restaurant/first-look-inside-carlosn-charlies-at-flamingo-vegas/)

http://www.vegastripping.com/news/news.php?news_id=4129 (http://www.vegastripping.com/news/news.php?news_id=4129)

 RockChickX51 posted on Thursday, 30th June 2011 - 6:51 am

Hahahaha both times I've been to Mexico the day has ended at Senor Frogs and/or Carlos and Charlies. Lets just say on my Mexico trip back in February I ended up with no pants at Senor Frogs (which I didn't know TI had one of). This should be great, bring tacky Mexican flare (you don't go for the food you go for the atmosphere) to the Vegas strip. Hopefully they'll hire REAL Mexicans to work it and not some lame white guy trying his best to hold a Mexican accent.

http://www.vegashotelnews.com/2011/07/carlosn-charlies-coming-to-flamingo.html (http://www.vegashotelnews.com/2011/07/carlosn-charlies-coming-to-flamingo.html)

 ::snipping2::

Carlos'n Charlie's is owned by the same company as another premiere Mexican watering hole, Señor Frog's, which is also opening a location in Las Vegas later this year at Treasure Island.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.nieuwsvannederland.nl/nieuws/46290/entertainment/bijzonder_interview_van_der_sloot_bij_rtl_crime.html

Google translation

Van der Sloot special interview with RTL Crime
January 2, 2012

AMSTERDAM (NEWS OF THE NETHERLANDS) - Following the trial of Joran van der Sloot on Friday, January 6 starts, sends RTL Crime Tuesday, January 3 at 20:00 the interview that crime reporter John van den Heuvel in September 2010 with the 24-year-old Dutchman accused of killing him. Van den Heuvel said Van der Sloot back in the maximum security prison in Lima, Peru. It was the first time that a journalist managed to the world famous Van der Sloot extensively to speak on camera. John van den Heuvel of the interview: "As a crime reporter, I speak frequently with people of serious crimes are suspected. Yet it was the interview with Joran van der Sloot special, especially because so much attention to the murders he had committed. In the prison I found someone who barely seemed to understand what he had done. the compassion he spoke to the family of the murdered girl Stephany Flores was not sincere, but seemed rather whispered through his lawyer. "Van der Sloot is suspected of involvement in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the murder of Stephany Flores. on Friday, January 6 start the process against Van der Sloot in the Lurigancho prison in Lima. is it 'murder followed by robbery, "was charged. John van den Heuvel: "I expect him for the murder of Stephany Flores receives at least twenty years. Or the mystery surrounding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway will ever be solved is very questionable. Joran alone knows the answer."   ::snipping2::

Four more sleeps!!

 ::piggy::
Will the American media be in Peru covering this trial will it be relying on released updates by the Peruvian press?

It appears that for some time ... Dutch and American media reports in English on recent happenings encompassing the Stephany Flores case are repeats of the googled translation of Pervian publications that Grace has provided.

Janet

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Van der Sloot trial Friday
Published: 1/01 5:01 pm
Updated: 1/01 5:19 pm

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-trial-Friday/oc3OEdRGJke6t6ARN0kFiQ.cspx


Joran van der Sloot murder trial to start
Published on 1 January 2012 - 6:41pm

http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/joran-van-der-sloot-murder-trial-start

Reminder - tomorrow:

Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW

Filing Date: 12/13/2006
Case Type: Defamation (Slander/Libel) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

01/03/2012 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Dismiss (THIRD MOTION TO DISMISS ANDREQUEST FOR TERMINATING SANCTIONS)

Thanks Klaas.

Considering the judge has failed to comply with past motions to dismiss the defamation lawsuit over the years ... past motions that were filed by Phil McGraw's attorneys ... I have a sinking feeling that the Kalpoes' attorneys have convinced the court that related Natalee Holloway case documents are not relevant to the the lawsuit.  In other words ... the disputed segment of the Dr. Phil recording will stand alone.

I could be wrong and ... if I am ... tomorrow I will be rejoicing while I wolf down an entire humble pie.

Janet

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Holloway Case: New Kalpoe Documents
Friday, September 14, 2007

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KELLY: I believe David Koch (ph), one of the attorneys for the Kalpoes actually signed a declaration at the court indicating that even if the court ordered the documents be turned over, they were not going to turn them over, which was sort of, for lack of a better word, arrogant on his part. The court did not necessarily like that.

But I can't see them both using the courts as a sword and then a shield. They can't bring this action, they can't seek damages and not obey the orders of the court and expect their case to go forward.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296798,00.html

Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Barack Obama & Eric Holder Make Judicial Watch’s 2011 List of 10 Most Corrupt Washington, DC Politicians

<snipped>

TOP 10 LIST that One Does Not Want to be On

•Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL)
•Former Senator John Ensign (R-NV)
•Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
•Attorney General Eric Holder
•Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)
•President Barack Obama
•Rep. Laura Richardson (D-CA)
•Rep. David Rivera (R-FL)
•Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
•Rep. Don Young (R-AK)

Posted January 3, 2012 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/01/03/barack-obama-eric-holder-make-judicial-watchs-2011-list-of-10-most-corrupt-washington-dc-politicians/

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Spencer Bachus - The Natalee Holloway Case

February 11, 2009 6:55 PM
U.S. Rep. Discusses Natalee

(AP) Rep. Spencer Bachus said he came away from a Friday meeting with Aruban officials with the sense that they plan to vigorously pursue leads in the disappearance of American student Natalee Holloway.

Bachus, R-Ala., whose district includes Mountain Brook, where Holloway is from, divulged little about the substance of the meeting, saying only it was a "frank and open discussion" and that Aruban authorities have devoted "tremendous resources" to the case.

"Their intention going forward ... is not to shut this case down, but to continue to pursue it vigorously," Bachus told reporters. "They do not consider it a closed case nor do they consider that they have a dead end. They continue to develop information and pursue leads."

Bachus and Alabama officials would not comment on exactly what Richardson, Aruban police analyst Renato Emerencia and Aruban attorney Arlene Ellis Schipper told them about.

<snipped>

Holloway's family initially praised Aruban authorities for their work on the case, but they recently turned critical, alleging incompetence and conflicts of interest. The governors of Alabama, Arkansas and Georgia have called for a boycott of travel to Aruba to protest the way the case has been handled.

John Quinlan Kelly, a New York-based attorney for the Holloway family, said Natalee Holloway's parents wanted him to attend the meeting, but the lawmaker's office told Holloway's family the Arubans objected to that.

"They've (Aruban authorities) indicated they're still investigating," Kelly said by telephone Friday. "We'll wait to see if there are any answers or prosecution resulting from that investigation."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/16/politics/main1134653.shtml


On the Record w/ Greta - December 16, 2005

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Your gut reaction from the meeting?  Do you feel confident this is the right team to be leading the investigation or would you like to see some changes?

SPENCER BACHUS: It’s a small island and they are handicapped by their experience.  But I was impressed with what they had done…at least the work product.  I have seen cases…I’ve been to hired to prosecute murder cases where there is almost no file. I will say that the resources that have been devoted to this case are really probably more substantial than most murder cases here in the United States.

<snipped>

BACHUS: I don’t have any criticism of them...

Transcript: sunmoonstars

s.t.

http://www.countercurrents.org/hamer030112.htm   

Someone needs to Baker act that beotch, SERIOUSLY!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

She doesn't have a clue.

His ISSUES were there LONG BEFORE he ever laid eyes on Natalee Holloway.

THEY STARTED AT HOME.

That's why Joran van der Sloot felt ENTITLED to rob Natalee Holloway of her inalienable HUMAN RIGHTS.  And then TORMENT her parents FOR YEARS after his crimes against her.

If she wants to blame anyone for the obvious hatred of Joran in society, she needs to blame everyone that "helped" him and the others involved in Natalee's disappearance escape Justice, and HIS OWN CHOICES afterward; including the brutal murder of another innocent victim.

ANITA NEEDS TO TELL MARY THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH; and stop this madness.

She is not helping her son.

If Mary Hamer has ANY true sense of HUMANITY, she will be instrumental in NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S return to her family and her country.

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT HAS THE ANSWERS, MARY; TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT!
But as you are surely aware, the price has probably gone up.


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

jmho

I have been checking the forum, on-line media sources and my email and ... nothing regarding the outcome of this morning's hearing.

 :smt026

Janet
1:15 PM PT

http://pulitzerandthompson.com/joran-van-der-sloot-trial-to-begin-on-january-6-2012/

Joran van der Sloot trial to begin on January 6, 2012

The long awaited murder trial of Joran van der Sloot is finally upon us.  On Friday, January 6, the young Dutchman will stand judgment before a three judge panel in a special courtroom within the walls of Lima’s Lurigancho Prison.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.revu.nl/2012/01/04/de-suikertante-van-joran-van-der-sloot/

Google translation

The aunt of Joran van der Sloot
Written on January 4, 2012 by New Revue

Next Friday is "her" Joran up in Lima. The perpetual suspect Joran van der Sloot is suspected of robbery. Sugar Aunt Mary Hammer supports van der Sloot with money, equipment and visits during his stay in prison. New Revue in Hammer talks this week about its influence on the matter. "When I talk with the media, Joran is punished." Hamer says that Van der Sloot would receive drugs that are administered not good for him.

According to Van der Sloot's lawyer, the Tag a lot different. Jose Jimenez believes that Hammer's book goes beyond its various accusing fingers. Moreover, he claims that Van der Sloot well treated in prison. "Statements by Mary Hamer cause an uncomfortable feeling, not only with Joran, but also to the prison."

And Van der Sloot himself? Is he happy with the actions of his mysterious sugarmommy? According to Jose Jimenez did. "Recently he said to me that I had to do her best regards."

http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/2707166/joran-wordt-goed-behandeld-in-gevangenis.html

Google translation

"Joran is treated well in jail '
Last Updated: January 4, 2012 1:28 p.m.

AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot in his new lawyer Jose Jimenez exactly well treated in Castro Castro prison.

Van der Sloot is caught in the infamous prison in Peru on suspicion of murdering the Peruvian Stephany Flores. And a half years after the murder Friday begins the trial of the 24-year-old Dutchman.

According to his lawyer Van der Sloot behave calmly in prison and he shows good behavior. "It's also not true that drug dealing in jail." This tells the magazine Nieuwe Revu Jimenez, which he reacts to statements by Joran American admirer Mary Hammer.

Poisoned

According to Hammer, Van der Sloot in jail is not properly treated. So he would be poisoned. They also find that his rights are violated. Hammer came in October last year emerged as the "aunt" Van der Sloot.

She would help him financially for his defense and his toiletries, vitamins and medication control.

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Friday begins the thing really, with an unchanged charge: against Van der Sloot will be 30 years imprisonment and a fine of 50,000 euros converted are required, because premeditated murder.

During his trial, several witnesses will be heard, including the owners of the hotel in which Van der Sloot would have killed the girl.

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 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Van der Sloot "guardian angel" conjures up crime of "humanocide"
Published: 6:22 am
Updated: 6:46 am

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  Officially the trial scheduled to start in Lima, Peru on Friday is pretty straight forward...after all a corpse was found in Joran van der Sloot's hotel room and he confessed to killing the young woman.

But if little is straightforward in the van der Sloot saga, it gets even more strange when some of his supporters get involved.

We've told you about Mary Hamer, the American radiologist who considers herself van der Sloot's "guardian angel".

Not content with financial and emotional supprt, the Florida doctor with Alabama ties has come up with an new international crime and claims van der Sloot is the classic victim.

Hamer calls the crime "Humanocide."  Writing on the website Countercurrents.org Hamer defines humanocide as  "2 or more People in power who conspire to destroy a targeted person, either mentally &/or physically."

Hamer goes on to a lengthy list of alleged "humanocide" grievances visited upon van der Sloot.  Here are just a few. ....

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http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-guardian-angel-conjures-up-crime-of/Zggq3_cyUUyHZMejefM6tg.cspx

Motion denied BUT    ::justice2NJ::

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Thanks Klaas, and anonymous monkey that purchases the documents for us!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Thanks Klaas.

I wish that ... at the very least ... the Los Angeles media sources afforded this lawsuit some coverage.

I am thankful that the Kalpoes received monetary sanction to the tune of $52,500 but ... I hope that this time around the judge is serious and the defamation lawsuit will be dismissed on Friday if the Kalpoes' attorneys fail to comply with the court's instructions.  I cannot comprehend why this lawsuit was not dismissed a long times ago if the failure to produce Natalee Holloway case documents was the issue.

Klaas ... thanks again.

Janet

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Judge allows lawsuit to proceed against Dr. Phil
Date: Wednesday Feb. 6, 2008 10:12 AM ET

LOS ANGELES — A California judge refused to dismiss a defamation suit Tuesday against CBS and television psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw brought by two brothers who were questioned in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

William Cremer, lawyer for Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, praised the decision by Superior Court Judge Edward Ferns. "I'm going to take Dr. Phil down," he said outside the courtroom.

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The Kalpoes, who have maintained they had nothing to do with Holloway's disappearance, sued in December 2006, claiming the "Dr. Phil" talk show altered portions of a taped conversation between Deepak Kalpoe and a private investigator to "create false, incriminating, and defamatory statements that the plaintiffs engaged in criminal activity against Natalee Holloway."

The brothers also contend the TV show implied they helped kill Holloway and disposed of her body. Their suit claims defamation, invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

Cremer said the taped remarks by van der Sloot, which were secretly recorded by a Dutch crime reporter, help his clients' defamation case.

"It pretty much exonerates my boys, doesn't it?" Cremer said.

In their dismissal motion, lawyers for CBS Television and McGraw maintained lawyers for the Kalpoes did not meet deadlines to produce all documents they have demanded concerning the criminal case investigation against the brothers in Aruba.

But the judge gave the Kalpoes' lawyers another five days to satisfy the document deadline.

"The documents are relevant to the most fundamental issues in this case," Ferns stated in his ruling.

"There is no other (information) which can substitute for the documents sought by the defendants due to the nature of this case."

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http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20080206/dr_phil_080206/

s.t.

I don't think there are any LUCKY CHARMS at the end of the rainbow for those two leprechauns..

Hi Keepthefaith

 ::HelloKitty::

I know beyond a doubt that there will be a day of reckoning at "the end of the rainbow" for all those who participated in the happenings encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 as well as those who were involved in the coverup ... the coverup that has prevented earthly justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.  However ... I also desire another day of reckoning to take place on this side of the rainbow.

Janet

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CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Aired August 18, 2005

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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY:  TWITTY: Well, I mean, we've known from day one that Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are way deeply involved in this crime with Natalee.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/18/lkl.01.html
 

How are you Tamikosmom? Their day of reckoning will come when they are of no value to anyone anymore. I still laugh at these Law offices that actually took this case. They must be getting some GREAT BANKING down on devils island. No other way to cut it...Offshore accounts are where it's at. Ask our green friend the frog :-) Ribbit.. ::MonkeyCool::

Video at link ... breaking news

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/01/04/exp-spr-joran-van-der-sloot-strategy.hln

Joran van der Sloot to plead guilty?

Added On January 4, 2012
Joran van der Sloot's attorney says his client will plead guilty to simple homicide in the death of Stephany Flores.
www.HLNtv.com/PrimeNews

I hope they don't accept his pleas if that's what the plan is.

It wasn't just robbery and simple homicide.

That's not Justice for Stephany.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

jmo

Thanks Grace.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Could it be that by pleading guilty to the lesser charges put forward by the prosecutor at the getgo ... Joran will avoid a trial ... a trial that could possibly result higher charges as implied by the family attorney?

Janet

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November 22, 2011
Joran van der Sloot indicted on murder and robbery
Posted: 01:40 PM ET

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Van der Sloot's defense attorney Luis Jimenez Navarro tells In Session this was a big win for his client. If Van der Sloot is found guilty and sentenced to the maximum penalty, under Peru's jail reduction credits, he may only serve a third of the time.

The Flores family remains hopeful this will not be the case. An attorney for the family tells In Session under the Peruvian justice system the charges could change once the trial begins.

"We can ask the Prosecutor to modify the indictment as new facts come out during the trial, but on the first day of trial we expect Van der Sloot to plead guilty to both charges. It seems this will be in his best interest,“ the attorney said.

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http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/22/joran-van-der-sloot-indicted-on-murder-and-robbery/

Video at link (in Spanish).  Also, I'm unable to access the entire article.

http://diariocorreo.pe/ciudad/lima/

Google translation

January 4, 2012 | 11:03 p.m.Ciudad
Van Der Sloot asked to annul Commission investigation against

Lima - The defense of Dutch citizen Joran Van Der Sloot appeared before the Human Rights Commission a request to cancel the police investigation into the murder of the student Stephany Flores, 2010.De occurred in May according to (...)

Home Page of Inter-American Commission of Human Rights, Organization of American States.  Provides an explanation and many links.

http://www.cidh.oas.org/DefaultE.htm

Inter-American Commission of Human Rights
1889 F Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C., 20006
U.S.A.

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Thank you, Texasmom.  ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/11240786/__Joran_naar_gevreesde_inrichting__.html?sn=binnenland

Google translation

January 5, 2012, 05:30
Joran feared to design
by John van den Heuvel

LIMA - The Prisons Service in Peru prepares for a transfer Joran for the dreaded Challapalcagevangenis, also known as the "Siberia of Peru" mentioned.

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The infamous Challapalcagevangenis lies in a desolate, barely accessible area near the border with Bolivia. The prison stands next to a military base, at an altitude of 4500 meters, and to the icy climate or the "Siberia of Peru" mentioned.

During the trial, in which Van der Sloot on the advice of his attorney fails to appear very likely, given the Dutchman also told that the United States last month a formal request for extradition have done. The Americans want to sue Joran at home scams on the Holloway family. Justice in the U.S. is negotiating with Peru to him immediately after his trial in Lima to America and try him there.

After the American Joran process would then be returned to Peru to where his sentence for the murder of Stephany to sit. Subsequently, Van der Sloot therefore probably a year long sentence in America to undergo.

You're welcome grace-land!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyGavel::

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/dutch-press-review-thursday-5-january-2012 (http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/dutch-press-review-thursday-5-january-2012)

Joran sent to Peru’s Siberia
Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is being held in Peru for the murder of Peruvian woman Stephany Flores, can expect a couple of unpleasant surprises, writes De Telegraaf. The prison authorities have requested a transfer from the notorious prison in Lima to the even more notorious Challapalca prison.

This prison lies at an altitude of 4,500 meters in an inhospitable region near the Bolivian border - Peru’s Siberia. There is a little light at the end of the tunnel. When his trial - which begins tomorrow - ends, he will return to Lima to sit out what is expected to be a long sentence.

In addition, the US authorities have officially filed for his extradition for the extortion of the parents of US teenager Natalee Holloway who disappeared over five and a half years ago. So once he has sat out what is expected to be a long sentence, he can look forward to a taste of American justice.

I'm picturing Joran in a freezing cold cell in Callapalca prison.  (http://bestsmileys.com/cold/7.gif)  This is a far cry from lolling around poolside and at the beach with a smirk on his face.   If Joran gets moved to Callapalca prison, wouldn't this possibly make it more costly, time consuming and all around more difficult for visitors or even media to go there?

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-to-U-S-after-trial-in-Peru/T_Uj6V4ml0qkYGmkLUlFZA.cspx
Van der Sloot to U.S. after trial in Peru?
Published: 8:02 am Updated: 8:15 am

Birmingham, Ala (WIAT)  Will a murder conviction for Joran van der Sloot lead to an icy cell in an area known as the Siberia of Peru...or to an even less hospitable extradition to face legal charges in Alabama? ::snipping2::
 ::boxingjoran::

Lima ready for Joran van der Sloot trial
Published on : 5 January 2012 - 4:17pm

The trial of Dutchman Joran van der Sloot in the Peruvian capital Lima is scheduled to begin on Friday. The 24-year-old is on trial for the murder and robbery of Stephany Flores. If found guilty, he faces a 30-year prison sentence.

Right up until the last minute the parents of the murdered woman tried to get the charges changed to “premeditated murder”, so he would be put away for life. The court, however, has rejected their requests.

At 10 a.m. local time, the trial will convene in a court room of the former Lurigancho prison, where Van der Sloot has been held on remand since his arrest in June. This jail, which used to hold gangsters, terrorists and political prisoners, has now been renamed the San Pedro prison.

The trial is being seen as one of the many cases against serious criminals. As a result, the gutter press has gone to town on the “monster of Holland” story, while the serious media have given the case little or no coverage.

Premeditated murder
Van der Sloot has admitted to picking the 21-year-old Stephany Flores up in a casino in Lima and killing her in May 2010. He could be jailed for 28 years for the killing. For taking the young woman’s credit cards and money, the court may add another two years.

Under the Peruvian legal system Van der Sloot could be released from prison after sitting out one third of his sentence, so the parents of the victim tried to force the Public Prosecution Office to charge him with premeditated murder.

Unlawful deportation?
A possible complication in the trial is the role Chile played in the case. Immediately after the killing, Van der Sloot fled in a car to Peru’s southern neighbour, where he was soon arrested and deported back to Peru. His lawyer Aldo Cotrino – who operates from New York – says the deportation was unlawful and “contravened human rights”.

A few weeks ago, he filed a complaint against the Chilean authorities at the Inter-American Commission for Human Rights in Washington, demanding 13 million US dollars in compensation.

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/lima-ready-joran-van-der-sloot-trial

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/lima-ready-joran-van-der-sloot-trial

Lima ready for Joran van der Sloot trial
Published on : 5 January 2012 - 4:17pm | By RNW News Desk

The trial of Dutchman Joran van der Sloot in the Peruvian capital Lima is scheduled to begin on Friday. The 24-year-old is on trial for the murder and robbery of Stephany Flores. If found guilty, he faces a 30-year prison sentence.

Right up until the last minute the parents of the murdered woman tried to get the charges changed to “premeditated murder”, so he would be put away for life. The court, however, has rejected their requests.

At 10 a.m. local time, the trial will convene in a court room of the former Lurigancho prison, where Van der Sloot has been held on remand since his arrest in June. This jail, which used to hold gangsters, terrorists and political prisoners, has now been renamed the San Pedro prison.

The trial is being seen as one of the many cases against serious criminals. As a result, the gutter press has gone to town on the “monster of Holland” story, while the serious media have given the case little or no coverage.

Premeditated murder
Van der Sloot has admitted to picking the 21-year-old Stephany Flores up in a casino in Lima and killing her in May 2010. He could be jailed for 28 years for the killing. For taking the young woman’s credit cards and money, the court may add another two years.

Under the Peruvian legal system Van der Sloot could be released from prison after sitting out one third of his sentence, so the parents of the victim tried to force the Public Prosecution Office to charge him with premeditated murder.

Unlawful deportation?
A possible complication in the trial is the role Chile played in the case. Immediately after the killing, Van der Sloot fled in a car to Peru’s southern neighbour, where he was soon arrested and deported back to Peru. His lawyer Aldo Cotrino – who operates from New York – says the deportation was unlawful and “contravened human rights”.

A few weeks ago, he filed a complaint against the Chilean authorities at the Inter-American Commission for Human Rights in Washington, demanding 13 million US dollars in compensation.
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Sorry for duplicate of the article, Janet.  Lima is ready to deal with Joran!  Let's hope for the best sentence!  Justice for Stephany!  ::justice2NJ::

trimmonthelake

Could it be that CBS42 something go lost in translation?

Janet

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Dutch Press Review Thursday 5 January 2012
Published on : 5 January 2012 - 10:55am

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In addition, the US authorities have officially filed for his extradition for the extortion of the parents of US teenager Natalee Holloway who disappeared over five and a half years ago. So once he has sat out what is expected to be a long sentence, he can look forward to a taste of American justice.

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/dutch-press-review-thursday-5-january-2012

I keep hoping that he'll finally find a place where he can't bribe his way into comfort.  I'd love to hear that he gets fed one cold meal a day, has worms, and is treated the way he's always treated females.

Grace

If Joran van der Sloot pleads guilty to the lesser charges tomorrow ... the lesser charges brought forward by the Peruvian prosecution ... serving ten years out of a thirty year sentence cannot be considered real justice for Stephany.  Thankfully ... the extortion charges await in the States at the end of that period.

Janet

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November 22, 2011
Joran van der Sloot indicted on murder and robbery
Posted: 01:40 PM ET

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Van der Sloot's defense attorney Luis Jimenez Navarro tells In Session this was a big win for his client. If Van der Sloot is found guilty and sentenced to the maximum penalty, under Peru's jail reduction credits, he may only serve a third of the time.

The Flores family remains hopeful this will not be the case. An attorney for the family tells In Session under the Peruvian justice system the charges could change once the trial begins.

"We can ask the Prosecutor to modify the indictment as new facts come out during the trial, but on the first day of trial we expect Van der Sloot to plead guilty to both charges. It seems this will be in his best interest,“ the attorney said.

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http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/22/joran-van-der-sloot-indicted-on-murder-and-robbery/

 ::rhino::


Ricardo Flores

November 10, 2010

Google Translation

FLORES FAMILY SAY JORAN LIVES LIKE KING

Stepahany Flores was murdered on 30 May in a hotel room, which hosts the Dutch Joran Van derSloot. Who is the prime suspect in the death of the young.

Everything indicates that the murderer would derSloot Van Stephany, because a video shows that he was the last to see her alive and enter the room where he was brutally murdered.

However, the family of the victim shows his great reproach to the Peruvian justice system, noting that Joran lives "like a king in jail."

"It is shameful what happens in prisons. I think the INPE has to give the same treatment to all criminals," said Ricardo Flores outraged father of the girl killed.

He added that it's been six months since the detention of the Dutch and "until this day refuses to give his statement to the judge," he said to a local television station in Lima.

"Unfortunately it seems that there are laws in Congress to protect the criminal, not to try and sentence them." Flores said indignantly.

http://www.generaccion.com/noticia/83737/familia-flores-aseguran-que-joran-van-der-sloot-vive-como-rey

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8719.msg1259600;topicseen#msg1259600

Just a friendly reminder regarding the charge against Joran as explained by a Peruvian lawyer specializing in criminal law.


http://www.ntn24.com/news/videos/experts-say-van-der-sloot-may-only-serve-10-years-peru-murder-7766

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1356970/noticia-juicio-van-der-sloot-deudos-insistiran-cadena-perpetua-holandes

Google translation

Van der Sloot trial: the key process that begins tomorrow
The Flores family's lawyer said the strategy used against the Dutch. There are five tests to sink shafts poker player
Thursday January 5, 2012 - 8:28 a.m.
SEBASTIAN MARTINEZ ORTIZ @ Shebas07

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Although the fiscal Miriam Castellares Riveros, head of the Ninth Criminal Lima Senior Prosecutor, asked for 30 years in prison for crimes Dutch homicide and simple theft, the defense of Flores Ramirez's family asked the Public Prosecutor in the last part of the process to amend the definition of robbery followed by death.

Under these charges, said Flores' lawyer, Edward Alvarez, Van der Sloot would receive life imprisonment. "We aim to present evidence after the trial, the prosecutor change the definition of the crime and murder becomes robbery followed by death. This will not be 30 years in prison, but life imprisonment, "he said in a conversation with elcomercio.pe.

Alvarez said that they as the aggrieved party can not require you to school "B" of the Third Criminal Court for Inmates in Jail, now presiding Judge Victoria Montoya Peraldo, life imprisonment for the Dutch, but this is in the hands of the Attorney General .

"According to our criminal justice system, the role falls to pursue the prosecution. What we do is help presenting evidence, but not for me to call penalties. We'll give inputs to the fiscal and she should also take into account these items so you can modify the charge, "he said.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FIRST HEARING?
At the hearing on Friday, marking the beginning of the trial, both parties, the aggrieved and the Van der Sloot, present new evidence in their possession and then the room will inform the accused of the charges against him by asking if accept it.

If assumed, the judiciary ruling issued in about 48 hours, but the Dutchman denies the charge, will be moved to stage presentation folders, witnesses and allegations, all this will develop in different sessions.

EVIDENCE AGAINST THE DUTCH
The defense of the Flores family has based its strategy on five tests in shafts and key testimony considered. Alvarez explained that the pillar of his argument are the images of the hotel security camera Tac, showing van der Sloot leave and return to her room scene, with two cups of coffee to simulate continued Stephany life when he was already dead.

Another point, perhaps the most important part of the evidence, are the conversations held poker player over the Internet with his friend Stan Pluijmen, who said he was in Lima without money and would be capable of anything, even prostitution, to get some money to allow him to return to their country.

Analysis Division of the Police High Technology held at the defendant's laptop will also be taken into account, because this indicates that searches the case of Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in Aruba in 2005, took place a day before the murder of Peruvian student, so the Dutch hypothesis violent crime fell by emotion.

The fourth axis, according to Alvarez told us is that the poker player during his escape to Chile confided to the three drivers who transported them he was running because he had killed someone and the last test is the statement that Van der Sloot gave in which he confessed to the murder.

"These statements (confession) have not been crossed in the process. His lawyers have not taken even the work of applying for annulment of that document, so you have any legal validity and use it at the trial, "he added.

THE KEY WITNESS
Among the witnesses to be cited by the Third Criminal Court to Jail Defendants include Atlantic City casino workers and the Hotel Tac and friends of the victim, including Carola Sanguinetti Espinosa, who was with Stephany hours before he lost life at the hands of Van der Sloot.

In his statement to the judiciary, she said Flores Ramirez possessed a day before his death the 7 thousand suns that had won at the casino this week.

"In the afternoon, when we went to the cookout and Markham going to get off the car, gave me my wallet and I saw that it was a big wad of money, all notes of 100 soles, then when exiting of this activity put it in your car and remained there throughout the time that we stayed together in the hotel Pacific to 11 at night, "said the girl.

For Alvarez this testimony is crucial to determine the motive of the murder of Flores Ramirez was the money and not a backlash, as it tries to make believe Van der Sloot.

Finally, counsel stated that the Flores family will not exert any pressure on the judges who will be in charge of the trial, but said that its members expect the judiciary and especially the Attorney General to meet a responsible role "allows them to obtain justice ".

Van der Sloot trial scheduled to begin this Friday in Peru
PeruthisWeek.com
January 5, 2012

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Prosecutor Miriam Castellares is asking for 30 years in prison, on charges of murder and simple theft; however, Flores’ family is asking the public prosecutor to amend the charges to “robbery followed by murder.”

According to Edwar Alvarez, the Flores family’s lawyer, under these charges Van der Sloot could receive life imprisonment.

"We aim to present evidence during the trial that will lead the prosecutor to change the classification of the crime, so that it becomes robbery followed by murder. This will not be 30 years in prison, but life imprisonment,” he said to El Comercio.

The prosecution is scheduled to present its case in court on Friday, and will present the evidence and inform Van der Sloot of the charges against him.

The hearing will take place at the courtroom of the Lurigancho prison.

If Van der Sloot declares pleads guilty, the judiciary would issue a ruling in about 48 hours, according to El Comercio.

If he pleads not guilty, the trial would proceed with the presentation of evidence and witnesses.

http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-1311-Van-der-Sloot-trial-scheduled-to-begin-this-Friday-in-Peru/

http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/peruaanse-proces-tegen-joran-van-start/

Google translation

Thursday, January 5, 2012, 13:24 hours
Peruvian new trial against Joran started
America wants Van der Sloot then try

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extortion
During the trial Joran will also hear that the United States last month a formal extradition request submitted by Peru. The Americans want Joran after the Peruvian process to persuade the U.S. to prosecute him for fraud by the family of the missing Natalee Holloway.

Van der Sloot said Holloway family for 25,000 euros that he could tell where she supposedly buried. After payment, he pointed to a house in Aruba, where no body was found. Later it appeared that the property at the time of disappearance Natales not even been built.

overwhelming evidence
Peter said earlier confidence in a successful outcome of the Stephany Flores case: "All the speculation about a sentence of five years and even release his nonsense. Joran's lawyer made ​​it appear he had a winning case ... a hoot! The evidence is overwhelming. Joran is fixed and stays fixed. The last word on the right, but I predict that Joran at least fifteen years, but down. "
 

Joran van der Sloot to Begin Peru Murder Trial
Published January 05, 2012

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Prosecutors are seeking a 30-year prison sentence for Van der Sloot on murder and theft charges in a trial that will be held at Lima's Lurigancho prison. He is accused of murdering Flores with "ferocity and great cruelty," and prosecutors say he also stole 600 soles, about $220, from the victim.

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The defense will argue that Van der Sloot killed Flores in a state of emotional distress.

"We will challenge the aggravating factors (charged by the prosecution) and seek to reduce the charge from first-degree murder to simple homicide," Jimenez said. That charge carries a prison sentence of from eight to 20 years.

He said his client, whose prominent lawyer father died of a heart attack on an Aruba tennis court in February 2010, was in a fragile state from years of being under suspicion for Holloway's presumed death and other legal problems stemming from that case.

"The killing was impromptu. There was no planning to carry it out," Jimenez said.

Lawyers for Flores' family, who are allowed to participate in the trial under Peruvian law, will try to show that Van der Sloot killed the woman to steal money she won at the casino.

If the court finds that to be true, a conviction could result in Van der Sloot being sentenced to life in prison.

"This guy wanted to take the money of the girl because he, in communications he had with his friends in Holland through Facebook and email, stated that he had no money, that he had no money or food, that his stay in Peru was hard and he told them: 'I am on the verge of prostitution,"' family lawyer Edward Alvarez said in an interview.

Alvarez predicted Van der Sloot would plead guilty Friday in an effort to get a reduced sentence.

Jimenez, the defense attorney, ruled out that possibility.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/05/joran-van-der-sloot-to-begin-peru-murder-trial/

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Joran's Facebook photos

WHAT JORAN WAS DOING THE DAY BEFORE HE MURDERED STEPHANY FLORES
(Playing Farmville and Mafia Wars)

AND

ANITA POSTED TO JORAN MAY 31, 2010 AT 6:18 PM - THE DAY JORAN MURDERED
STEPHANY FLORES RAMIREZ
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MAY 25, 2010 – Joran contacted John Q. Kelly for the last time.

MAY 25, 2010 – JORAN RESPONDS TO  POSTS ON HIS FACEBOOK

Jaime Carrasquilla 
Awo cu Mourinho ta bai join Real Madrid e worst nightmare di Barca Ta bai cuminsa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AYO Barca!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Yesterday at 9:21am 

Joran Van Der Sloot 
pfff you wish 
Yesterday at 3:06pm


Romy Hoeksma 
Hey Joran, 
How are you doing? long time no speak..woon je nog in thailand?Yesterday at 11:40am 

Joran Van Der Sloot 
Hey Romy, 
Ja zoizo lang geleden. Nee zit niet meer in thailand ben nu in een ander land. Hoe gaat alles met jou? 
Yesterday at 11:45am 

Romy Hoeksma 
ja top:) 
Binnekort weer lekker naar de caribean:) daarna ga ik door naar seoel voor me study..wat doe je nu allemaal? 
Yesterday at 11:47am 

Joran Van Der Sloot 
Doe je goed welk eiland ga je naartoe? Ik ben bezig met werk heb me bedrijf in thailand verhuurd en heb nu gewoon een betaalde baan dus ben daar ook druk mee bezig. Hoop dat alles goed met jou is en veel geluk gewenst in seoel ik ben er een keer geweest met wat thaise vrienden en was super leuk uiteraad well een cultuur shock maar daar doe je het voor tog . Groetjes. 
Yesterday at 11:52am 

Translated: 

Romy Hoeksma 
Hey Joran, 
How are you doing? long time no speak...yet you live in thailand? 

Joran: 
Yes zoizo long ago. No is no longer in Thailand am in another country. How's everything with you? 

Romy: 
yes top:) 
Soon again went to the Caribbean:) then I go on to Seoul to study me .. what do you all now? 

Joran: 
Do you look what island are you going? I'm doing work, I let my business in Thailand and have now just a paid job so am too busy working. Hope all is well with you and good luck in Seoul, I been here once with some Thai friends and was super nice uiteraad a culture shock but well done for the tog:). Greetings.

JORAN EMAIL TO JOHN LUDWIG:
May 26:
Hey,
Just so you know I will be coming back to Aruba on Sunday."

May 29:
"Happy birthday man I hope you had a good day & remember how imortant family & friends are.  I won't bother you today but send me some money through Western Union tomorrow.  The only information of mine you is my name Joran van der Sloot, the country Peru & the city Lima.  I need this man for my ticket back so di it for me.  Take care & enjoy your b-day."

05/29/2010
Stephany Flores meets Joran van der Sloot in the Atlantic City Casino in Lima, Peru

May 30/31, 2010 – Joran leaves Casino with Stephany and returns to his hotel R 5:16 and 8:45 am Joran leaves his hotel room.http://www.diariolaprimeraperu.com/online/policial/holandes-es-principal-sospechoso_63588.html
Approx. 5:16am:     Joran van der Sloot and Stephany Flores leave the Atlantic City Casino
Approx. 5:40am:     Joran van der Sloot and Stephany Flores arrive at TAC hotel and enter Joran's room
Approx. 8:10-8:30am:     Joran leaves the hotel room, crosses the street, purchases two cups of coffee & breakfast bread, returns to the hotel room
Approx. 9:45am:     Joran leaves the hotel room a second time carrying a duffel bag and backpack.

05/31/2010
Natalee Holloway, Missing in Aruba 5 Years Later … Beth Holloway Fights on for Missing Persons

Joran Has Fled to Chile

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Joran van der Sloot's Defence in a Nutshell?

Van der Sloot to go on trial for murder of young woman in Peru
By the CNN Wire Staff
January 5, 2012

<snipped>

Van der Sloot was charged last September with "qualified murder" and simple robbery, which together could carry a sentence of up to 30 years in prison. Flores' family later tried -- unsuccessfully -- to convince three judges from the superior court of Lima to impose an even more serious slate of charges that could have included a life sentence.

His attorney, Luis Jimenez Navarro, told InSession on Wednesday that his client "will accept at trial the charge of simple homicide.... What he will not accept are the aggravated charges."

"We are sure that -- with support from ... experts -- it will be determined that Joran was living in a post-traumatic state during the attack," Navarro said, adding that "psychologists and psychiatrists" will testify at van der Sloot's upcoming trial.

He pointed to the Holloway case, noting that the fatal attack on Flores occurred exactly five years after the Alabama girl went missing. It has been widely reported that van der Sloot killed the woman after he believed she saw something on the Internet relating to Holloway.

"He is a young man ... who has practically lived persecuted for a crime he says he did not commit ... or for a disappearance that he cannot explain," the lawyer said of van der Sloot. "Movies and books have been made ... At that age, and with other characteristics of his psychological profile,... in that moment, he felt threatened and reacted in a brutal manner."

Jimenez said that he' and his client will ask the judges for a 7- to 20-year sentence, "which are the legal sentencing parameters for homicide." He contended his client never planned to "entrap ... the future victim in a casino where there are more than 30 cameras" while he was staying in a room registered under his legal name, and then kill her.

"There was no premeditation," the lawyer argued.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/05/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot-trial/

The Trial Proceedings?

Van der Sloot to go on trial for murder of young woman in Peru
By the CNN Wire Staff
January 5, 2012

<snipped>

Three judges will preside over Van der Sloot's trial, starting Friday, and there is no jury.

The proceedings will begin with the prosecutor stating the "facts" that have been proven in the case, as well as detailing the alleged crimes committed, according to Peruvian lawyer and University of Oklahoma professor Giovanna Gismondi. Then the lead judge will talk generally about the crime, after which van der Sloot's side will have the floor.

This round of the case could include testimony from the accused, though Navarro said that van der Sloot likely wouldn't give a statement Friday though he may answer questions from judges. The other scheduled trial dates are next Tuesday and Thursday, though the judges could adjust the plans at any time.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/05/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot-trial/

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Van-der-Sloot-trial-Friday/oc3OEdRGJke6t6ARN0kFiQ.cspx
Van der Sloot trial Friday
January 1, 2012


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Comments:
debby - 1/3/2012 9:59 PM
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Van der Sloot ought to be acquitted. Gary Giordano was in Aruba when both Holloway and Gardner went missing. Flores is collateral damage in the persecution of an innocent man.

Joran van der Sloot - In His Own Words

Confession: Joran van der Sloot describes killing Stephany Flores
Published: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 2:51 PM
Updated: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 4:11 PM

<snipped>

Asked for a detailed description of the killing:

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed, immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute. After that, I throw her to the floor but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long but she stops breathing, in this way I think I caused her death."

<snipped>

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/confession_joran_van_der_sloot.html

Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET!

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Click on the link below:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u

For those who may not have read

Portrait of a Monster
Joran van der Sloot, A Murder in Peru, and the Natalee Holloway Mystery
By:  Lisa Pulitzer and Cole Thompson

I've posted portions of Chapter Nine, that includes the examination of Stephany's remains in the coroner's office after she was taken from the Hotel Tac.

WARNING:  It is very graphic, and sad.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=11854.msg1500700#msg1500700

http://travel.usatoday.com/destinations/dispatches/post/2012/01/drowned-aruba-tourist-was-a-wake-forest-university-staffer/597495/1


Drowned Aruba tourist was a Wake Forest University staffer

By Kitty Bean Yancey, USA TODAY
Updated 8h 20m ago Comments   

Jing Wei, who drowned in late December while snorkeling with her husband in Aruba, has been identified as employee of North Carlina's Wake Forest University, according to a Thursday report in the Winston-Salem Journal.

China-born Wei, 48 and a well-regarded instructional technology staffer at the university, died as a tour group ended the day at Baby Beach, which is the same place U.S. tourist Robyn Gardner was reported missing in August.

Yaochun Zhang, Wei's husband, told the Journal his wife's drowning is unexplained, though he said she was not a strong swimmer. He said she was in 15-foot water when she was discovered to be in trouble.

Two friends, a doctor and a physician assistant, assisted Aruba paramedics in trying to revive Wei, Zhang said. They couldn't. "We were shocked. We couldn't believe it," he told the newspaper.

 ::snipping2::

REMINDER:

http://arubaherald.com/local/774-us-reporting-of-alleged-snorkeling-site-incorrect.html

US reporting of alleged snorkeling site incorrect         
Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:04
 
 
Many US media have been reporting that the alleged area where the suspect in the dissaperance of the American woman Robyn Gardner says is Baby Beach. This information is incorrect. The suspect says that they went snorkeling behind the Nanki Country Club area. This is close to the Baby Beach area but is located between Baby Beach and Rodgers Beach.

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I'm pretty sure the KIA prison is also near where Robyn Gardner supposedly disappeared.

http://arubaherald.com/911/1879-police-conduct-search-for-woman-screaming-for-help.html

Police conduct search for woman screaming for help         
Tuesday, 03 January 2012 08:23
 
Monday evening around 8 o'clock KIA prison personnel heard a woman screaming for help. Police found a Chevy Aveo with the key in the ignition, but no sign of the woman. Witnesses heard the screams and what sounded like a few gunshots immediately thereafter. The helicopter was used in the search.

Police did find a man "under the influence" and detained and took him to the precinct since there is an ongoing search and investigation. The woman was not found; the car was confiscated pending investigation.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/01/natalee_holloway_case_federal.html
Natalee Holloway case: Federal authorities in Alabama have a hold on Joran van der Sloot if he's released after his trial in Peru
Published: Thursday, January 05, 2012, 9:39 PM     Updated: Thursday, January 05, 2012, 9:59 PM
BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- If Joran van der Sloot is released after his trial on charges of killing a young Peruvian woman, which begins Friday, federal officials in Alabama have a plan in place that could give them a chance to bring him to the state to face charges related to the investigation into the 2005 disappearance of Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway while she was on a trip to Aruba.

"For months the government has had a detainer filed through Interpol that would result in van der Sloot being held if, for any reason, he were to be released on charges in Peru," according to a statement emailed from Peggy Sanford, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorneys Office in Birmingham.
 ::snipping2::
 ::boxingjoran::

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1357397/noticia-hoy-se-inicia-juicio-contra-holandes-joran-van-der-sloot (http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1357397/noticia-hoy-se-inicia-juicio-contra-holandes-joran-van-der-sloot)

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http://www.larepublica.pe/06-01-2012/hoy-empieza-juicio-oral-contra-joran-van-der-sloot (http://www.larepublica.pe/06-01-2012/hoy-empieza-juicio-oral-contra-joran-van-der-sloot)

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Hi there! Long time no see...

Livestream of proces (only today?): http://nos.nl/nieuws/live/journaal24/

'Trial' that is...

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hello EURobert, it's good to see you again!  Thank you for the link.  Unfortunately, English is the language I understand with just a smattering of other languages.  Would you please be so good as to post your comments on what is going on in the trial if you're able?  Thank you ::bee:: 

Vandersloot on InSession.

Good Morning!

Watching  ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::

pb

Trial continues here: http://nos.nl/nieuws/livestream/stream/195/

Sorry MuffyBee: don't understand Spanish either.

That's okay Robert, maybe Cecilita or one of our other Spanish speaking monkeys will come by and help us out.  I'm sure there will be translations on the news as we go, but I think it's very interesting to hear what's being said from our members. 

What a pig.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good morning trimmonthelake, EURobert, pinkbanana, kcrn, orchidfae and our 7 Guests are viewing this topic.   (http://bestsmileys.com/coffee/2.gif)

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Van-der-Sloot-may-plead-guilty-in-Peru-killing-2443633.php
Joran van der Sloot enters court for murder trial
January 6, 2012

LIMA, Peru (AP) — Joran van der Sloot has entered the court where a panel of three female judges will try him in the 2010 murder of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman.

The 24-year-old Dutchman entered in a blue blazer and faded blue jeans with a bullet-proof vest beneath the jacket.

His has a close-cut crew cut and is wearing a long-sleeve gray shirt.

An interpreter is being sworn in. The Dutchman's attorney said his client may enter a guilty plea.
 ::snipping2::

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/06/lawyer-van-der-sloot-to-plead-guilty-in-peruvian-womans-death/
Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead guilty in Peruvian woman's death
January 6, 2012

In a last-minute defense strategy change, Joran van der Sloot is expected to plead guilty to all the charges against him in connection with the killing of a Peruvian woman, his lawyer told CNN Friday.

The original plan going into the trial, which was set to begin Friday, was to admit to killing 21-year-old Stephany Flores, but to fight more stringent charges that could land him more time in prison, attorney Luis Jimenez said.

Jimenez said the intention of the new strategy is to give a "sincere confession," which under Peruvian law can qualify him for a more lenient sentence.

If van der Sloot goes forward with this approach, he could be sentenced as early as next week.
 ::snipping2::

He seems to be bored  ::MonkeyNoNo::
He looks like a druggie too.  ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::

pb

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57353649-504083/joran-van-der-sloot-peru-murder-trial-set-to-begin-friday/
Joran van der Sloot Peru murder trial set to begin Friday
January 6, 2012

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A shaman performs a ritual for the spiritual punishment of Joran van der Sloot, in poster top center, and for justice for Stephany Flores, in poster at left, before Van der Sloot's trial outside the prison where the trial will be held in Lima, Peru, Friday Jan. 6, 2012.
(Credit: AP Photo/Karel Navarro)

(Gallery of 64 photos at link)

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2012/0106/Van-der-Sloot-murder-trial-set-to-open-in-Peru-video
Van der Sloot murder trial set to open in Peru (+video)
The trial of Joran van der Sloot opens today in Lima, Peru. He is accused of killing a Peruvian woman in 2010 and was suspected in the murder of Natalee Holloway in Aruba five years earlier.
By Lucien Chauvin, Correspondent /
January 6, 2012


2 Page Article
 ::snipping2::
Parole possibility?

While the trial, which could drag on for months given the evidence in the Flores murder as well as the circumstance surrounding the Holloway case, will be about van der Sloot's culpability, the real issue appears to be how long he will spend in prison.

The state prosecutor’s office is asking for van der Sloot to be found guilty of first-degree murder that was premeditated and “cruelly and ferociously” carried out. The maximum sentence is 30 years, but there is the possibility of parole. The prosecutor had originally asked that the charge be aggravated robbery followed by murder, which carries a life sentence without parole. The court rejected that option in November.

Peru’s legal system does allow for the defense or prosecution to request a change in the charges when trial gets under way. Van der Sloot could plead out during the opening hearing, accepting the charge, but that would mean the maximum sentence.
Defense strategy

His defense attorney, José Luis Jiménez, said that while there is no disputing the murder charge, he will fight for the aggravating circumstances to be dropped.
“Our job is to show that this was a tragic event that my client did not intend to happen. It was not done out of cruelty and certainly was not premeditated. No one makes the kinds of clumsy mistakes my client made if they had planned a murder,” he said on Thursday outside a Lima courtroom.

If Jiménez successfully convinces the three-judge panel with his arguments, van der Sloot could be convicted of manslaughter, which carries a seven- to 20-year sentence.

“He would likely get the maximum sentence, but the law allows for parole after one-third of the sentence is served,” said Jimenez, who took over the case last June after meeting van der Sloot in prison.

Under this scenario, Jiménez said van de Sloot could technically be out of prison in 2017.
More...

http://www.newsday.com/news/world/joran-van-der-sloot-enters-court-for-murder-trial-1.3432977
Joran van der Sloot enters court for murder trial
January 6, 2012

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Photo credit: AP | Joran Van der Sloot, center, enters the courtroom for the start of his murder trial held at the San Jorge prison in Lima, Peru. (Jan. 6, 2012)

http://www.facebook.com/InSession


‎#JoranvanderSloot is requesting for the prosecutor to speak slowly because he is having a hard time understanding.


The prosecutor wants to introduce new evidence including an overheard conversation b/w #JoranvanderSloot and Stephany Flores.

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‎#JoranvanderSloot's translators are for English and Dutch.


The panel is talking to #JoranvanderSloot about the use of the interpreters.


6 minutes ago..In Session
Interpreters for #JoranvanderSloot are taking the oath.

They might put a vest on him, but that big head is open, I'm just sayin!

He's a pig. Can't even stay awake for his own murder trial. Here's hoping it's a great day for Stephanie and Natalee.

IMO, Joran is thumbing his nose at his victim and her family by acting like he's nodding off.  I continue to hold hope there will be justice for both Stephany and for Natalee. 

 :smt078

live stream

http://video.foxnews.com/video-live-streaming.html?video_id=1155606982001

Adjourn to January 11th at 11 am.

Trial has been postponed until Jan. 11th  ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::

pb

http://www.facebook.com/InSession

BREAKING NEWS: #JoranvanderSloot's trial was suspended. The panel says court will resume January 11.
Like · Comment · @InSession on Twitter · a few seconds ago via Twitter.


‎#JoranvanderSloot's potential fine is $200,000 soles, which is over $74,000 in US currency.


The prosecution requests a 30 year sentence for #JoranvanderSloot

Thank you everyone for the links, articles and info!  I'm holding onto hope there will be justice.   ::justice2NJ::

What I understand from comments on other sites is that Joran wants time to consider if wants to plea guilty or not.
I understand that he wanted to confess but not at the exact complaint of the prosecutor.

Postponed.................. geez...........

http://twitter.com/#!/InSession (http://twitter.com/#!/InSession)

InSession In Session
BREAKING NEWS: #JoranvanderSloot's trial is suspended. The judge panel says court will resume January 11.
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#JoranvanderSloot's potential fine is $200,000 soles, which is over $74,000 in US currency.
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Can't watch the #JoranvanderSloot trial live? @insession is tweeting live updates today. #FF
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The prosecution requests a 30 year sentence for #JoranvanderSloot
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#JoranvanderSloot is standing while the prosecutor gives his opening statement.
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angela pecheone
booker54 angela pecheone
by InSession
@InSession When they make the movie i think Ben Foster would be perfect to play Joran...Just saying
36 minutes ago
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#JoranvanderSloot is requesting for the prosecutor to speak slowly because he is having a hard time understanding.
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The prosecutor wants to introduce new evidence including an overheard conversation b/w #JoranvanderSloot and Stephany Flores.
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#JoranvanderSloot's translators are for English and Dutch.
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The panel is talking to #JoranvanderSloot about the use of the interpreters.
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Interpreters for #JoranvanderSloot are taking the oath.
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The panel of judges just entered court and trial is underway for #JoranvanderSloot
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#JoranvanderSloot in court NOW! Tune in! If he pleads guilty today, sentencing occurs next week.
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Tune in NOW! We're LIVE in Peru for #JoranvanderSloot's murder trial.
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Less than 10 MINS until we're LIVE from Peru hlntv.com/article/2012/0…
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StephanyFlores fam told @InSession“The family will be content with whatever the outcome is today,and whatever sentence the judges decide.”
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Tune in now! #JoranvanderSloot's interpreter talks about his confession, police interrogation.
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Tune in all day as we air Jean Casarez’s EXCLUSIVE interview with #JoranvanderSloot’s attorney. LIVE trial starts in 30mins!
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Giovanna Gismondi says the judges will decide if this is a “sincere confession” from #JoranvanderSloot based on the amount of evidence.
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Giovanna Gismondi says #JoranvanderSloot will face a panel of three judges. The judges will determine if this is a “sincere confession.”
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Joining us now, Giovanna Gismondi gives an expert opinion on Peruvian law. #JoranvanderSloot’s trial airs LIVE starting at 10a.
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Tune in to @insession we are breaking down the joran van der sloot trial, before it starts live at 10am et!
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Tune in now for more details surrounding #JoranvanderSloot’s guilty plea.At 10a/ET we’ll take you inside the Peruvian courtroom.
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Good Morning! We're less than 30 mins away from the latest news on #JoranvanderSloot's plea deal and more coverage of MI v. Stewart.
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#JoranvanderSloot's trial may be a no go! His attorney says he will plead guilty to all charges against him for strangling a Peruvian girl
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Hmmm.   :2thinky:  I wonder what Joran's up to  now. 

http://twitter.com/#!/InSession (http://twitter.com/#!/InSession)

VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
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Joran van der Sloot does NOT plead guilty...given more time - back in court Jan 11...
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Stephany Flores' family is holding a press conference. Tune in NOW!
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I know what you mean CBB.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  But it's a Sloot, so no surprise really.

 ::rhino::

Joran van der Sloot to Begin Peru Murder Trial
Published January 05, 2012

<snipped

Prosecutors are seeking a 30-year prison sentence for Van der Sloot on murder and theft charges in a trial that will be held at Lima's Lurigancho prison. He is accused of murdering Flores with "ferocity and great cruelty," and prosecutors say he also stole 600 soles, about $220, from the victim.

<snipped>

The defense will argue that Van der Sloot killed Flores in a state of emotional distress.

"We will challenge the aggravating factors (charged by the prosecution) and seek to reduce the charge from first-degree murder to simple homicide," Jimenez said. That charge carries a prison sentence of from eight to 20 years.

He said his client, whose prominent lawyer father died of a heart attack on an Aruba tennis court in February 2010, was in a fragile state from years of being under suspicion for Holloway's presumed death and other legal problems stemming from that case.

"The killing was impromptu. There was no planning to carry it out," Jimenez said.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/05/joran-van-der-sloot-to-begin-peru-murder-trial/

He is up to something...he was all smiles as he was leaving the courtroom.
He knew the outcome of the day before he entered the courtroom.
 ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::


pb

 :2brickwall:

 ::rhino::

I know, Muffy. I'm not discouraged, really. Joran stepped in it this time and he's not going anywhere but back to prison. Whether it's for 30 years or to serve a life sentence, it will be for the duration of his life, IMO.

I have to believe that after the trial, his prison experience will change drastically. I still believe that the Flores family, if nothing else, have enough influence to insure that his time spent there is to their liking.

So now he says something like 'the police and prosecuters on Aruba and the press made me do it???!!!11???

OMG!!!

Vinnie Politan often gets it right, but in this tweet he made earlier, I don't think he really understood WHY it's not such a good think for Joran to plead guilty.  Joran isn't doing this out of the goodness of heart, he's trying cut years off his sentence!

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/06/lawyer-van-der-sloot-to-plead-guilty-in-peruvian-womans-death/
Lawyer: Van der Sloot to plead guilty in Peruvian woman's death
January 6, 2012


http://twitter.com/#!/vinniepolitan (http://twitter.com/#!/vinniepolitan)

VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
Joran Van der Sloot's atty says he will plead guilty to all charges as presented! Sounds like good news... We'll see what happens
2 hours ago

I could be wrong BUT, I think Joran's smiles were about being arrogant and being forced in a situation where there will actually be consequences. IMO, he's very aware of the satisfaction most people will get out of seeing him held accountable and the smiles and nodding off were a feeble attempt to portray that he's not really effected by what goes on around him.

It's a thin facade.............. he hates this and is probably jelly inside. He's a coward at heart.

JMO.

I agree!! He must NOT show that he is scared...which I believe he is! He must put up a front!
COWARD he is!  ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::


pb

 ::rhino::  In the court room, he is not in charge/control of the situation.  A coward!  ::MonkeyNoNo::  jmo

 ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::

Yep!   ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/01/joran-van-der-sloot-to-plead-guilty-in-peru-killing/1

Van der Sloot murder trial postponed in Peru
Jan 06, 2012

The murder trial of Joran van der Sloot, a central figure in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, was postponed for five days by a judge in Peru today.

Update at 11:29 a.m. ET: A Peruvian judge has postponed the murder trial for Joran van der Sloot until Jan. 11.

Update at 11:20 a.m. ET: Van der Sloot entered the courtroom today in a blue blazer and faded blue jeans with a bulletproof vest beneath the jacket,the Associated Press reports. He sported a crew cut and wore a long-sleeved gray shirt.

His defense attorney, Jose Luis Jimenez, tells the AP that is a 70% chance Van der Sloot will plead guilty to killing Stephany Flores in Lima in 2010, which could help him get a reduced sentence.

Flores' father, Ricardo Flores, tells the AP today that the family would participate in the trial in hopes of ensuring that Van der Sloot is also accused of robbery in connection with the killing.

Prosecutors are seeking a 30-year prison sentence on murder and theft charges.

Jimenez has said he would seekto get a reduced charge by arguing that his client was in a state of emotional distress when he killed Flores. A lesser sentence would be from eight to 20 years in prison.

Police and Flores' family dispute Van der Sloot's version of her death. They say he was hard up for cash and knew the Peruvian business student had been winning at the casino.

"We hope that throughout this process our attorneys can demonstrate the true motives for the killing of my daughter," Ricardo Flores says, the AP reports.
 ::snipping2::

Will be back later.

 ::boxingjoran::  ::boxingjoran::

 ::justice2NJ:: for Natalee

 ::justice2NJ:: for Stephany

pb

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

If a 30 year sentence requested by the prosecutor is forthcoming ... the implication is that Joran can be released after serving only a third of his sentence.

If the court excepts a "simple" murder plea ... the implication is that an 8 - 20 year sentence implies that Joran could be released in 3 years.

Janet

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Joran van der Sloot to Begin Peru Murder Trial
Published January 05, 2012

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Prosecutors are seeking a 30-year prison sentence for Van der Sloot on murder and theft charges in a trial that will be held at Lima's Lurigancho prison. He is accused of murdering Flores with "ferocity and great cruelty," and prosecutors say he also stole 600 soles, about $220, from the victim.

<snipped>

The defense will argue that Van der Sloot killed Flores in a state of emotional distress.

"We will challenge the aggravating factors (charged by the prosecution) and seek to reduce the charge from first-degree murder to simple homicide," Jimenez said. That charge carries a prison sentence of from eight to 20 years.

He said his client, whose prominent lawyer father died of a heart attack on an Aruba tennis court in February 2010, was in a fragile state from years of being under suspicion for Holloway's presumed death and other legal problems stemming from that case.

"The killing was impromptu. There was no planning to carry it out," Jimenez said.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/05/joran-van-der-sloot-to-begin-peru-murder-trial/


November 22, 2011
Joran van der Sloot indicted on murder and robbery
Posted: 01:40 PM ET

<snipped>

Van der Sloot's defense attorney Luis Jimenez Navarro tells In Session this was a big win for his client. If Van der Sloot is found guilty and sentenced to the maximum penalty, under Peru's jail reduction credits, he may only serve a third of the time.

The Flores family remains hopeful this will not be the case. An attorney for the family tells In Session under the Peruvian justice system the charges could change once the trial begins.

"We can ask the Prosecutor to modify the indictment as new facts come out during the trial, but on the first day of trial we expect Van der Sloot to plead guilty to both charges. It seems this will be in his best interest,“ the attorney said.

<snipped>

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/22/joran-van-der-sloot-indicted-on-murder-and-robbery/

CBB, I agree.  I think the Flores family has influence and will use it.
 ::justice2NJ::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::

http://www.cronicaviva.com.pe/index.php/crimen/52-crimen/33839-padre-de-stephany-flores-espera-justicia-para-su-hija-video

Google translation

Stephany Father Flores expects justice for his daughter [video]
Friday, January 6, 2012 11:14

The businessman Ricardo Flores, father of the girl Stephany Flores Ramirez, allegedly killed by the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot in May 2010, today expressed confidence that judges do justice for her daughter.

Minutes before the start of the trial, taking place in San Pedro prison (ex Lurigancho), Flores said the defense is giving van der Sloot distorted versions of what really happened, so he asked the judges to be firm and transparent.

He was surprised, for example, the statements of the defendant's attorney Cotrina Aldo, who hinted that the Peruvian justice system is plotting against van der Sloot to convict him of crimes against him.

"It is shameful what he has argued, everyone has their way of defense, but the Peruvian justice system has made it clear that we have not any pressure exerted on the court," he said.

Noting that the suffering that it causes the disappearance of her daughter last for life, Flores reported that family members expect the trial to end the cycle of death of his daughter.

"(Stephany's death) is a wound that will never be closed. When you bring a child into the world bring an illusion, she was my only daughter, who had great future, but the Lord wanted me to be at his side. We want this cycle will end once and never again talk to the media about this issue but on others, "he said.

He said he would have preferred not to attend the beginning of the process, but that was cited by the Third Criminal Court for inmates in jail. "I would rather not come. We would not be necessary, but I was called and I am respectful of the laws. Judges have called me today and I would ask you not to do it again, because they cause harm to my family, "he said.
 ::snipping2::

Joran's arrogance?  Does Joran have knowledge of the the outcome.

Janet

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Ricardo Flores

Van der Sloot to go on trial for murder of young woman in Peru
By the CNN Wire Staff
January 6, 2012 -- Updated 0126 GMT (0926 HKT)

<snipped>

The victim's family, including her father Ricardo Flores, had pushed for stiffer charges and claimed that van der Sloot hasn't looked "remorseful" in court appearances.

"He had an indifferent and prideful attitude. He looks as if he has everything under control. He looks better than when he appeared on TV after he was arrested," Ricardo Flores told CNN last year.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/05/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot-trial/

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/06/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot-trial/?hpt=wo_c2
Van der Sloot postpones plea
January 6, 2012

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Joran van der Sloot, right, appears in court Friday in Lima, Peru, to face charges in the death of a Peruvian woman.

Tune in to HLN's "Nancy Grace" at 8 and 10 p.m. ET Friday for reaction and analysis in the Joran van der Sloot case.

(CNN) -- Joran van der Sloot on Friday asked for more time to "reflect" on what plea he will make during his murder trial.

Earlier in the day, his attorney said van der Sloot was expected to plead guilty to all charges, but when it came time to tell the court, he asked instead for more time.

When asked for a plea by the magistrates, van der Sloot said he wanted to give a "sincere confession" -- a type of guilty plea that can qualify him for a reduced sentence -- but did not agree with all of the charges against him. When the judge asked for clarification, he said he needed more time to decide his plea.

The trial is postponed until Wednesday, when van der Sloot is expected to finally give his plea. He is charged with "qualified murder" and simple robbery in the killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores.
 ::snipping2::

Video at link

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/06/van-der-sloot-may-plead-guilty-in-peru-killing/

Joran van der Sloot Declines to Enter Plea in Killing of Peruvian Woman
Published January 06, 2012

LIMA, Peru-- A Peruvian judge has postponed the murder trial for Joran van der Sloot to Jan. 11.

The 24-year-old Dutchman entered the court Friday in a blue blazer and faded blue jeans with a bullet-proof vest beneath the jacket.

His has a close-cut crew cut and is wearing a long-sleeve gray shirt.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/06/van-der-sloot-may-plead-guilty-in-peru-killing/#ixzz1ihQoK0ft

Thanks EURobert and everyone else for the links.

Seems like Joran wants to confess on his own terms.  I guess he doesn't like that 30 year sentence and wants propose his own terms that he likes better (which will be 5 years with times served).

Sorry Joran you don't get to make your own rules.

Joran's going to have a difficult time making the case that Stephany's murder was "spur of the moment". His computer browsing history proves that he was very aware of the 5 year anniversary of Natalee's death. It also shows that there was no search on his laptop related to Natalee for the duration of time Stephany was with Joran.

It's far more plausible that Joran targeted another young girl to commemorate Natalee's murder. Stephany was in the wrong place at a predestined and orchestrated wrong time.

The "coincident" of the 5 year anniversary is way too far a stretch.

The brutal murder of Stephany Flores would not have happened if a corrupt Aruban investigation had not prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

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THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL

Monkeys Media Reminder … Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio
February 13th, 2008

Beth Holloway:

47:50 - "I feel strongly that he (Joran) is a time bomb that is waiting to go off.  He will strike again.  It is not just for Natalee that I would like to see him behind bars.  I think he has shown us all he has no control over himself or his actions."

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/

I hope Joran remembers that whatever the length of time he ultimately serves for Stephanie's death, he will be headed to Alabama.

He really doesn't want to come here.  No matter how old he is.

Yes, Joran.............. Beth is watching you as you face the consequences of your actions. Yes Joran, all of Natalee's supporters are watching as well.

We all saw you remove the bullet proof vest and the yawns and the smiles. You are a tiny fish in a glass bowl and all eyes are laughing at your feeble attempt to show the world you don't care. Someone has put a lid on the fishbowl and there's no way out.

Toto? You aren't in Aruba anymore.


 ::justice2NJ::

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1357472/noticia-juicio-van-der-sloot-se-suspendio-holandes-evalua-acogerse-conclusion-anticipada

Google translation

Van der Sloot trial was discontinued: Dutch evaluates eligible for early termination
The process will continue on Wednesday, the day the poker player pleads guilty to state whether or not the crime of Stephany Flores

Friday January 6, 2012 - 11:20 am

After nearly two-hour hearing in which the Attorney General explained the scope of his indictment on the murder of Stephany Flores Ramírez, the Dutch defense Joran Van der Sloot asked to School "B" of the Third Criminal Court for Defendants time in prison for his client to assess if you elect early termination of the process.

The request was accepted by the prosecution and by the Flores family's lawyer, Edward Alvarez, so that Judge Victoria Montoya Peraldo suspended the trial until next Wednesday, the day the poker player must state whether you plead guilty or no.

During the hearing, the Dutchman said it intends to make a sincere confession, but said he did not agree with some parts of the indictment which the prosecution asked to be sentenced to 30 years in prison for the crimes of homicide and simple theft.

"I want to take me to my sincere confession, but I do not agree with all the aggravating circumstances of the Public Ministry," he said.

The other defendants John William Aparcana Pisconte, John Oswald and Carlos Alberto Aparcana Euribe Pisconte Pretil-who drove the car in which the Dutch fled the country bound for Chile, where he was captured, also asked for time to see if they make the conclusion in advance. The public prosecutor had requested five years in prison for them.

 ::snipping2::

Vizcarra Beatriz, spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Lima, said that if Van der Sloot is guilty, the court will issue its ruling within 48 hours.

 ::rhino::

If justice prevails for Stephany Flores ... it will be measure of justice for Natalee Holloway and ... a measure of closure for her family.

Janet

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Natalee Holloway's Mom: Aruba Investigators 'Not Following Up on Any Leads'
Wednesday, November 19, 2008

<snipped>

BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.

<snipped

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html


Medical mystery tour brings (Beth) Holloway to Okoboji
Saturday, June 11, 2011

<snipped>

"For me, I have a perpetrator in prison, so I can't ask for anything more right now," Beth Holloway said. "That's where he belongs and now I'm able to focus and move onward in the help that I can do for others who have missing loved ones -- maybe they don't have recovery of their loved one's remains or they don't have a perpetrator in prison, so my hope is to shed enough light and to help them."

<snipped>

http://www.spencerdailyreporter.com/story/1735599.html

Exactly CBB.  The date alone will hang Joran.  His lies have finally caught up with him and he can't wiggle out of it.  If he does then there is something corrupt going on.

http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-1320-Van-der-Sloot-trial-suspended-to-resume-January-11/

Van der Sloot trial suspended, to resume January 11
By Manuel Vigo
January 6, 2012

 ::snipping2::

He asked for more time to decided whether he would plead guilty or not.

Despite pleas from the prosecutor, the trial was postponed until Wednesday January 11, at 11:00 AM.

The prosecution asked for a 30-year sentence and a 200 thousand soles fine (US $74,000) .

After the trial Ricardo Flores, Stephany's father, thanked everyone for their support, and thanked the media for respecting his family’s privacy.

He said his family looked forward to obtaining closure, and said he would not be making any more public comments regarding the case.

"I'm not surprised ... they have suspended the hearing so they can have it clear. I think it is good for my family, for the peace, that this should come to a quick conclusion. I hope that the Peruvian authorities do not make a joke of the sentence. I think they should allow my family to have some peace, to be able to close this issue.”

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/97167-aanklager-eist-30-jaar-joran-vraagt-bedenktijd

Google translation

Prosecutor demands 30 years, Joran asks reflection Prosecutor demands 30 years
Friday, January 6, 2012 8:38

ORANGE CITY / LIMA - Joran was in court today in Lima, Peru, in order to account for the murder of Stephany Flores (21) on May 30, 2010. He heard 30 years in prison to her demands. His appearance before the court was short lived. When the judges asked him if he wanted to admit guilt on all charges, he would "think about it." The case was then suspended until next Wednesday.

If Joran decides to confess, then the court then 48 hours to come to a decision. Confesses he does not, then the process. The trial is held in the Lurigancho prison, a prison complex in the same neighborhood as the Castro Castro prison where Joran been stuck nineteen months.

The media coverage of the case is great. Journalists from around the world, the Netherlands and the United States to Japan, have traveled to the country to report on the lawsuit. Joran got about four hours in the afternoon local time an armored car and was under police escort brought into the courtroom. Moreover, he wore a bulletproof vest under his clothing.

 ::snipping2::

Upon his arrest and extradition from Chile were human rights violations, says Joran. His lawyers have therefore the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights filed a complaint. Joran would also complain about the subsequent police interrogation in the Peruvian capital Lima. The lawyer and the translator were present at the hearing, would not have been neutral. Observers of this committee this morning were expected in court.

Joran van der Sloot - In His Own Words

Confession: Joran van der Sloot describes killing Stephany Flores
Published: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 2:51 PM
Updated: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 4:11 PM

<snipped>

Asked for a detailed description of the killing:

"She was on the bed when I hit her hard with my right elbow and I think her head went back and hit the wall, then she begins to bleed, immediately I get on top of her and with both hands I begin to strangle her, keeping her that way for a minute. After that, I throw her to the floor but she keeps breathing. At that moment I take off my shirt and put it on her face, pressing on it. I don't remember for how long but she stops breathing, in this way I think I caused her death."

<snipped>

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/confession_joran_van_der_sloot.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/06/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot-trial/?hpt=wo_c2
Van der Sloot postpones plea
January 6, 2012

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Joran van der Sloot appears in court Friday in Lima, Peru, to face charges in the 2010 death of a Peruvian woman.

Joran van der Sloot's Mother - The Natalee Holloway Case

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
Published June 23, 2005

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT'S MOTHER: Joran is a very outgoing person. He's a sweetheart.

<snipped

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Any drug use or alcohol use by him?

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: A hundred percent no. No. He is, like, Mom, I would not smoke or I would not use drugs because I am a sporter. I want to make something out of my future. If there would have been anything of that, I would have noticed. I'm a teacher. I work with kids between 12 and 18 years, the last 25 years. So you're used to so many things, problems that appear with your students. You're so alert. And I think you're even more alert with your own children.

<snipped>

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: It's extremely tough. He's in custody now for 13, 14 days, I think. I have lost count. And I love my child. I believe in him 200 percent. And it's just like a big nightmare. We don't know how to deal with it because you can't deal with it. We think about the family a lot because their life is a nightmare, too, but our life is a nightmare, too.

<snipped>

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT:   And he was telling me, Mommy, look at me, I'm reading the Bible. Did you ever think about that? And I think it's great. It's difficult to read.

<snipped>

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: Something he told me last night, that he still didn't believe it was true. And he said, Mom, don't worry, because I was crying and he was really hugging me. He said, The truth will come forward, and I know that I didn't do anything to the girl. And the truth will come forward. And he was so strong.  And I believe in him. I believe so in him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160471,00.html

Stephany Flores death was the direct result of enabling ... the enabling of Joran van der Sloot.  Natalee Holloway's uncle comprehended.

Janet

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private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #749 4/24 -
« Reply #367 on: April 27, 2008, 12:38:30 PM »

I am amazed that the people who love or care for Joran do not yet see that he needs the help that can only be provided by him going to the authorities and telling the entire truth. Being rejected by society, labled as a criminal, all are taking a horrible toll on Joran that is going to fuel his addictions and push him further and further into a self destructive lifestyle. I would think his mother would recognize Joran's needs, and see the benefit he would gain even from incarceration. Isn't an investment of five or so years worth a return of the rest of Joran's life? .... 

It is very telling that Beth's life is getting brighter every day, considering her loss, yet Joran the boy who "got away with it" is descending deeper and deeper into a self convicted sentence of life without parole unless he confesses. He will never, never be able to move on from this without repentance. Corny, yes, self serving, yes I want him to tell the truth, but is it the absolute truth, the absolute gospel, yes. Surprise, no, it is as the Bible teaches.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2804.msg377586#msg377586

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/01/06/joran-van-der-sloot-declines-to-enter-plea-in-murder-of-peruvian-woman-trial-postponed-until-january-11/
1:32 am ET January 6, 2012
Joran van der Sloot Declines to Enter Plea in Murder of Peruvian Woman; Trial Postponed Until January 11
by Fox News Insider Posted in: Joran van der Sloot   

I was reading Insessions FB, I read a post from a person, who knows of a heroin user and what she said made sense to me.  With his attitude, smiling, acting oblivious, nonchalant and nodding off, etc. are signs of drug use, especially in heroin users.  I do believe drugs come easily in that prison and widely used, so wouldn't be surprised if that was the case while in court.  He probably went their higher than a kite, for the same reason some said here, his is a COWARD! 

I most certainly pray the judges take his lack of respect of them and the court system seriously and use that to give him the max possibleI

 ::boxingjoran::

Agree with all that you said, Dihannah1.   ::boxingjoran::

Video at link

http://www.larepublica.pe/06-01-2012/padre-de-stephany-flores-espera-que-caso-van-der-sloot-no-termine-en-la-cidh

Google translation

January 6, 2012
Stephany Father Flores expected to Van der Sloot case does not end at the Commission

 ::snipping2::

Ricardo Flores, father of the murdered young Stephany Flores said he expected the case involving the alleged murderer of his daughter, the Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot does not end at the Human Rights Court, as requested by a Peruvian lawyer in America.

"We will throughout the process we hope that today the Lord will not accept what the prosecutor asked, and go to the process itself, there is another possibility that today accept the charges and read next week the sentence, I hope that the trial continue, and that this is not considered a homicide, "said Ricardo Flores.

Former race car driver made ​​it clear in this way, he hopes the Peruvian justice system is responsible for judging the murder a few months ago confessed to Van der Sloot.

At another point, the girl's father urged President Ollanta Humala not to be surprised and sign a prisoner exchange treaty with Holland, which, the alleged murderer of his daughter can finish serving his sentence at home.

"I invoke the executive to be careful not to be surprised and will sign the permission for this man to go to Holland," he said on Channel 2.

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1357498/noticia-padre-stephany-flores-conclusion-anticipada-permitira-que-mi-familia-tenga-paz

Google translation

Friday January 6, 2012 - 01:14 pm
Stephany Father Flores: "foregone conclusion that my family will have peace"
 ::snipping2::

Ricardo Flores, father of Stephany Flores Ramirez said after the first hearing in the trial against Joran Van der Sloot was not surprised that the Dutchman has requested time to assess whether to accept the charges imputed to the prosecution for the crime of her daughter.

"I'm not surprised with the agreement that they have raised to accept the indictment. We sensed that this would happen and it's good for my family to complete the process quickly, "he said at a news conference.

The victim's father, who at times was about to break, said the early termination of the process will "so my family can have some peace and close this issue."

Before leaving the Lurigancho Flores again urged the judiciary and the Public Ministry to accomplish a task transparent.

FEARS FOR BENEFITS PRISON
For his part, counsel for Flores, Edward Alvarez, said that if the Dutch hosts the early termination of the process will have access to a more lenient sentence to 30 years in prison sought by prosecutors.

Alvarez said the family of the victim is afraid that when the case profile and lost with the passing of the years, Van der Sloot has access to prison benefits when added to a conviction under 30 years allowed his release from prison in short time.

Video at link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-peru-crime-vandersloottre805125-20120106,0,6525951.story

Van der Sloot to "sincerely confess" to murder in Peru
11:24 a.m. CST, January 6, 2012

 ::snipping2::

On the first day of his trial in Lima, he told the court he should not be charged with aggravating circumstances of the murder that could lengthen his sentence.

Under Peruvian law, a prison term for a "sincere confession" to a murder is normally much shorter than one for an outright guilty plea. Prosecutors have said Van der Sloot robbed and killed Flores before fleeing the scene of a crime toChile.

If Van der Sloot formally enters a "sincere confession" to the judges on Wednesday, the trial would quickly enter a sentencing phase and he could spend less than a decade behind bars.

His defense lawyer had said earlier on Friday Van der Sloot would plead guilty.

Van der Sloot's plea strategy prompted the panel of three judges to suspend the trial, which started on Friday, until Wednesday, when his defense team will provide a detailed response to charges presented by prosecutors.

The defense has complained that the panel of three judges is made up exclusively of women and might be biased against him.

Van der Sloot smiled nervously as the trial opened, at times closed his eyes, snoozed or yawned, and stumbled over his own words in Spanish as he told the judges of his plea plans.

 ::snipping2::

Once again the Sloot devil-spawn shows what he's made of - or how little he's made of?

Anita must be soooo proud that he is keeping up the family tradition of absolutely no accountability for any of the horrors they commit. Makes me physically ill to even hear any of them speak.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Could it be if Joran van der Sloot convinces the court to apply the "simple" murder charge which translates into 8 - 20 years in prison the implication will be that with "reduction credits" Joran would be eligible to be transferred to the Netherlands to serve his sentence?

1.  30 years = 10 years

2.  8 - 20 years = 3+ years

Janet

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November 22, 2011
Joran van der Sloot indicted on murder and robbery
Posted: 01:40 PM ET

<snipped>

Van der Sloot's defense attorney Luis Jimenez Navarro tells In Session this was a big win for his client. If Van der Sloot is found guilty and sentenced to the maximum penalty, under Peru's jail reduction credits, he may only serve a third of the time.

<snipped>

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/22/joran-van-der-sloot-indicted-on-murder-and-robbery/

If Joran van der Sloot is permitted to serve a reduced sentence in the Netherlands as Stephany Flores' father fears ... what are the implications in regards to being extradicted to the States to face extortion charges?

Janet

Why was Joran van der Sloot afford more time to consider his plea?  The prosecutions charges were revealed over two months ago.

Janet

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Joran van der Sloot hints he'll plead guilty
updated 8 minutes ago

LIMA, Peru — Joran van der Sloot appears ready to accept responsibility for the killing of a Peruvian woman five years to the day after the disappearance in Aruba of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, for which he remains the prime suspect.

The Dutch citizen sought and received more time to decide how to plead as his trial opened Friday in the May 30, 2010, murder of 21-year-old Stephany Flores, whom he met at a Lima casino.

He said he was inclined to confess but doesn't accept the aggravated murder charges the prosecution seeks.

The presiding magistrate of the three-judge panel, Victoria Montoya, said the trial would resume Jan. 11.

When asked moments earlier by Montoya to enter a plea, Van der Sloot answered in Spanish:

"I want to give a sincere confession but I don't agree with all the aggravating factors the prosecutor is putting on me. Can I have more time to think about this?"

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45901809

Joran van der Sloot hints he'll plead guilty
updated 8 minutes ago

<snipped>

The 24-year-old Dutch citizen had repeatedly shaken his head as the prosecutor described for the judges how Van der Sloot allegedly "brutally" beat and strangled the victim in his Lima hotel room, intending to rob her.

<snipped>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45901809

Ditto, Nonesy! (Great to see you, BTW!)

It's very different this time, isn't it? No Papa running interference, no Mama petting him as he is released.............. no release period! 

I hope all of Aruba is watching and I hope the entire world is reminded that Natalee never received justice because Aruba protected this "Golden Boy".  Stephany is dead because of that island and his family.

It appears that Stephany Flores' family's strength and determination may be what it takes for justice to prevail.  It ain't over until its over!!

Janet

+++++

Ricardo Flores

Van der Sloot asks for more time to decide plea in 2010 murder, trial postponed
The Associated Press
Jan 06, 2012 12:10:00 PM

<snipped>

Flores' father, Ricardo Flores, told the AP Friday that the family would participate in the trial in hopes of ensuring that Van der Sloot is also accused of robbery in connection with the killing,

Prosecutors are seeking a 30-year prison sentence on murder and theft charges.

But Jimenez has said he would argue that his client was in a state of emotional distress when he killed Flores and "seek to reduce the charge from first-degree murder to simple homicide." The latter carries a prison sentence of from eight to 20 years.

Police and Flores' family dispute Van der Sloot's version of her death. They say the defendant was hard up for cash and knew the Peruvian business student had been winning at the casino.

"We hope that throughout this process our attorneys can demonstrate the true motives for the killing of my daughter," Ricardo Flores said.

<snipped>

http://www.680news.com/news/world/article/316871--trial-of-joran-van-der-sloot-in-2010-gets-under-way-with-panel-of-3-woman-judges

 ::justice2NJ::

Sounds like something he would do, if for no other reason...to brag about doing it.

He has no respect for authority and he's a coward; through and through.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Jan 6, 2012 3:34pm
Joran Van Der Sloot Seeks Murder Deal in Peru

<snipped>

Today’s hourlong courtroom session appeared to set up a situation where van der Sloot will plead guilty by reason of temporary insanity, which, under Peruvian law, carries a sentence of three to five years.

If he pleads guilty to temporary insanity and the court accepts that plea, he could be set free, according to statements his lawyers have made to ABC News.

They state that Peru has a two-for-one stipulation in its judicial system, meaning a prisoner’s time spent in jail awaiting trial is computed doubly. Van der Sloot has completed more than three years of jail time — the minimum of the three- to five-year term if found guilty.

If given the maximum sentence of five years, he would finish that term in less than two years.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/01/natalee-holloways-suspected-killer-seeks-deal-in-peru/

I didn't get to watch the trial live today.  I'm watching Vinnie Politan and just saw where the judge made Joran stand up and reminded him that he IS in a court of law and that he needed to sit up and behave appropriately.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Anita and Mary Hamer must be so proud. 

Seems like Mary could have spent some time at the goodwill looking for him something decent to wear to court.  Blue jeans?  Seriously?

But I guess if he wasn't going to behave with any respect it doesn't matter what he wears either.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Have to wonder if he would have been so disrespectful if the three judge panel had been made up of men?

 ::MonkeyMad::

If cecilita comes by maybe she can tell us what Ricardo Flores is saying in this video, I think it was from today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQxW6mJ_krA

Uploaded by buenosdiasperutv on Jan 6, 2012
El padre de Stephany Flores manifestó su sorpresa e incomodidad por la citación de los jueces. "Lo que quisiera es que este ciclo ya se acabe", indicó tras señalar que las heridas por la muerte de su hija se abren aún más. Buenos Días Perú.

Google translation

Stephany Flores's father expressed surprise and discomfort for the summons of the judges. "What I want is that this cycle is over," he said noting that the wounds on the death of her daughter even more open. Buenos Dias Peru.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX98bq1GiYI

Google translation

Shamans perform strange rituals of punishment against Van Der Sloot spiritual

Uploaded by buenosdiasperutv on Jan 6, 2012
A group of witches have been installed outside the headquarters of Lurigancho to perform a ritual to condemn the young Dutchman. "Stephany Flores calls for justice from the grave," said one of them.

Cool.  ::MonkeyWitch1::

::rhino::

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2012-01-06-senalan-que-no-se-aplica-confesion-sincera-para-joran-van-der-sloot-noticia_438422.html

Google translation

They say that honest confession does not apply to Joran Van der Sloot
Friday, January 6, 2012 | 8:20 pm

Family Lawyer Stephany Flores, Jose Camarena said the Dutchman can only accept the charges of the prosecution or continue oral proceedings.

At this stage of proceedings against Joran Van der Sloot for the murder of Stephany Flores can not speak of sincere confession and why the Dutch only have until next Wednesday January 11 to decide whether to accept the charges prosecutors.

"I think at this stage of the process, talk about sincere confession technically no longer applies. We must not forget that he has had all the stage-level statements and tried to provide and clarify the facts, "said Jose Camarena, a lawyer for the Flores family.

Speaking to RPP News, noted that Van der Sloot requested time to assess whether early termination welcomed the process, but "more than a foregone conclusion he would have to do is to accept the charges Mr. (...) or else not accept the charges and proceed to trial. "

"The room has raised these alternatives and asked him the time to coordinate details and Wednesday will give its final opinion," he said.

Camarena said that if the Dutch can accept the charges that the College "B" of the Third Criminal Court reduced the 30 years requested by the prosecution, but if you continue with the trial "runs the risk that vary the type and therefore go to life imprisonment. "
 ::snipping2::
Finally, if the room reflected that imposes the maximum sentence of 30 years on Van der Sloot would go to jail for 52 years, not counting prison benefits, and "will remain a very dangerous not only for Peru but for humanity ".

Thanks Grace.  This makes sense.  It was my understanding until today when various articles implied that Joran could plea a lesser charge than the prosecution put on the table.  However ... I don't comprehend why the judge afforded Joran another five days to think about whether he was going to plead guilty or non-guilty to the Prosecution's charges.  He and the world have known about those charges for over two months.

Janet

++++++


Van der Sloot trial scheduled to begin this Friday in Peru
PeruthisWeek.com
January 5, 2012

<snipped>

Prosecutor Miriam Castellares is asking for 30 years in prison, on charges of murder and simple theft; however, Flores’ family is asking the public prosecutor to amend the charges to “robbery followed by murder.”

According to Edwar Alvarez, the Flores family’s lawyer, under these charges Van der Sloot could receive life imprisonment.

"We aim to present evidence during the trial that will lead the prosecutor to change the classification of the crime, so that it becomes robbery followed by murder. This will not be 30 years in prison, but life imprisonment,” he said to El Comercio.

The prosecution is scheduled to present its case in court on Friday, and will present the evidence and inform Van der Sloot of the charges against him.

The hearing will take place at the courtroom of the Lurigancho prison.

If Van der Sloot declares pleads guilty, the judiciary would issue a ruling in about 48 hours, according to El Comercio.

If he pleads not guilty, the trial would proceed with the presentation of evidence and witnesses.

http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-1311-Van-der-Sloot-trial-scheduled-to-begin-this-Friday-in-Peru/

I wonder if the Kalpoes' attorneys compiled with the judges instructions.

Janet

Justice is coming for Stephany!  ::MonkeyCool:: Natalee is still awaiting hers -- but this is a small step for her family as well.

That's it, TxMom.  Joran is totally incapable of showing respect to women.  I have to wonder what in his life caused him to hate women so.  I wonder if Anita wonders the same thing.

The hearing was January 3rd and they are given 5 days (I suspect normal court days) so that would be until Jan 10th I believe.  We won't know if they complied (which I highly doubt) until some time after January 10th.

And then he would come to Alabama to face Federal Extortion Charges.

No matter how it turns out, I do believe Joran's life for all practical purposes is pertty much over.  I mean his life of freedom.

It couldn't happen to a more deserving lout.

I agree!  No, Joran doesn't want to come to Alabama at all.

And federal crimes carry huge penalties like this one I think is 25 years.  That is also about the penalty for robbing an armoured car.  I don't think they get breaks for good time and so forth in federal prison.  At least not so much as lesser ones.

I, on the other hand, want very much for him to come to Alabama.

 ::MonkeyShovel::

You are so right, in my view.  In fact, I think the thought of having to come to Alabama has been terrifying him from the very beginning ... his worst nightmare. lol  Love it.    ::MonkeyCool::

Yes, Tylergal always commented on his enormous head. 

Well, I'm just saying, too. . . .

I wonder if Joran's demeanor in court today wasn't intentional as just another part of his crazy helper's plan to try to get him out of everything he's done.

She has already claimed that he is being drugged by the prison officials.   ::MonkeyRoll::

I wouldn't put anything past him, to try to get this trial overturned down the road.

I hope they're testing him regularly.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

self edit   :2redman:

Thanks Klaas.

Janet

Or....maybe he's playing macho, macho man (disrespectful and arrangant to the court and 3 female judges) to show off to his prison "friends." 

I'm listening to the replay of Nancy Grace with jinkasauras.

John Ludwick, another total loser looking for his five minutes of fame. 

You know he's got to be desperate for it to get on national television and blame Stephany for her BRUTAL murder. 

 :smt021

Joran's never done anything wrong if you believe him!   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::boxingjoran::

He knew Joran five minutes, but he's on TV defending him?

Michael Griffith called him a first class idiot among other things.    ::MonkeyCool::

 :2redman:  self-edited  And I used spell check--really!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe that too, but he usually tries to turn things so that he appears to be the victim.  I wouldn't put it past him to already be planning points for his appeal if the sentence isn't what he thinks it should be.  I foresee reasons being given for his inappropriate behavior today that will imply that it wasn't his fault.  On Showbiz Tonight someone just said exactly what I've been thinking, he's constantly toying with the judicial system; and always seems to get away with it!

 :smt096 :smt093

I guess time will tell. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

JMO

She won't ever admit it, but she knows why he's that way; and it's something to do with her!
If it were because of anyone else, I think she would have already thrown them under the bus.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Uggggghhhh... the return of 'Sporter' ... or as I like to call him 'Bony Maroonie'

I predicted many moons ago (2006/2007) that Joron the Moron won't live to see his 25th birthday. I certainly could be wrong, but I'm holding firm.

I was surfing Joran and his astrology birth chart the other day. (just for fun)

The astrologer did a write up on Joran... how he had Jupiter stuck in Uranus in the seventh house with a Yod finger... and all that bubbledy zubbbbb!

I just remember the astrologer's final conclusion on Joran, though.

Painful death made to look like an accident. He will never get out alive to stalk the good people of Earth ever again.

So, I've got that to be looking forward to for the 2012, ya know? ::monkeywine2::

HAPPY NEW YEAR MY MONKEY FAMILY! Love you all. We've stuck together through thick and thin. That's what friends are for. ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyHeart::

I was just thinking about you earlier...wondering where you were!   ::MonkeyKiss::

No matter how disgusted I may be about the latest, you always make me laugh.

Thank you!   ::monkeywine2::

P. S. Jeff Ashton said George is not tot dad, I'll find the interview if you didn't see it.  We need to find you another avi, that one gives me the creeps.

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/07/van-der-sloot-hints-in-court-that-he-might-plead-guilty-to-murder.html

Van der Sloot Hints in Court that He Might Plead Guilty to Murder
Jan 7, 2012 4:45 AM EST

 ::snipping2::

“My client asked for a time of reflection,” Jose Luis Jimenez, Van der Sloot’s attorney told the Daily Beast later. “He’s considering the possibility of giving a sincere confession, accepting the homicide charges and this in turn, may bring about a reduction of his sentence.”

 ::snipping2::

There is a widely held belief in Peru that Van der Sloot is guilty of killing Flores and in this case there is a body, and a confession. He may have few options other than to plead guilty. A videotape of his confession leaked to the local press shows the investigating prosecutor interrogating Van der Sloot with his responses in broken but intelligible Spanish. At one point the prosecutor asks: “Did you kill Stephany Flores?” Van der Sloot replies: “Yes.” Then the prosecutor repeats the question: “So you did kill Stephany Flores?” Van der Sloot again says: “Yes.”

The proceedings yesterday lasted just over an hour. As he listened to the prosecutor read the charges, Van der Sloot nodded and shook his head at different moments.

Over 70 journalists attended the first day of the trial. Stephany Flores’s older brother Enrique and father Ricardo arrived to face the sea of correspondents. Watery eyed and visibly upset, Ricardo Flores shielded himself behind dark sunglasses. “No matter how much time he is sentenced to, be it 1, 10, 20 or 50 years,” he said, “it will not return my daughter to me.”


I know it's not perfect, so please forgive any errors or typos. 

Tonight's Dr. Drew

Dr. Drew  John Q. Kelly, you know I’m looking at this guy and I know Beth has just been through just awful experiences with him, I don’t believe he’s capable of a sincere anything, what are Natalee’s mom’s thoughts?

John Q. Kelly  She’s been down this road with him, she knows that he’s certainly not capable of a sincere confession or any sort of truthful answer or truthful statement.  I think everybody’s over reading his body language and things.  He went into court today to telegraph his aloofness, sort of a first shot over the bow like I don’t care what you do to me, we’re going to do this on my terms or we’re not going to do it.  He went in there; it was a form of poker.  He had the prosecution play their hand; he wanted to hear exactly what they were going to say.  And now he wants to go back and craft whatever he’s going to say in court on Wednesday.  And doctor, you’re not going to hear a sincere confession on Wednesday either.  He’s going to push, he’s going to give the minimum he can get, he’s going to engage in brinkmanship and this won’t get done Wednesday either.  He doesn’t want to admit to the intentional murder and he doesn’t want to admit to the robbery.  Those things were conveyed today when he’d shake his head and look away when they’d bring up certain facts, you could see what he’s going to contest.  He and I circled each other for five years and I know him very well.


(Dr. Drew asks John to give everyone a brief sketch of what it was like in the past with Joran promising things, promising confessions, promising to tell the Holloway’s what happened to their daughter and then nothing, unless it served his needs.)


John Q. Kelly Well of course I mean, he’s scammed so many people out of so much money with so many stories.  I spent a rather lengthy amount of time with him one on one a couple of times in the last month before he went to Peru in this murder, (?) he told me how he had hoodwinked everybody, how he had made fools of everybody; and I can tell you when he was in that courtroom today, there is no doubt that he thinks he’s the smartest person in that courtroom.  He thinks he’s much smarter than those judges, he thinks he’s much smarter than the prosecutor, and he thinks he’s much smarter than his own attorney.  He’s relying on himself and he thinks he’s going to get the better of everybody.

(Dr Drew agrees and refers to Joran being a different quality of criminal than say a Casey Anthony...not good person, mass liar, distorts, doesn’t understand how she’s perceived versus this guy...who gets off on manipulating, taking things from people and murdering people.  He apologizes, but tells John he has one minute.)

John Q. Kelly Casey Anthony wasn’t born and raised to engage in whatever happened with she and her daughter it was probably a short term thing where she made certain bad decisions and is moving on with her life.  Joran van der Sloot was born a self absorbed, attention seeking, control freak who lives in a world of fiction he’s created from his youth where he’s always right, everybody else is wrong, anything that happens it’s not his fault, it’s the other person.

o.k. Carpe... I guess I deserved that!   ::MonkeyDevil::

I knowwwwww...be careful what you ask for!   ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::piggy::

Carpe, don't know if you've seen this.   ::MonkeyWink::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=10724.msg1477730#msg1477730

No, I hadn't seen it. Thanks for the link! ::MonkeyCool::

Hi Carpe!  Long time, no see! ::bee::

You're welcome!   ::MonkeyCool::

hIYA MuffyBee, good to see you! I am still hanging around to see the MONGOL get what he deserves.  ::MonkeyShovel::

In Sessions coverage of the trial on Friday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1mtzGjbiF8

 ::MonkeyKiss:: I've missed all of you CBB !

I just pray he never sees the outside world again.

Joran is playing them again, just as he did w/interrogators in Aruba.  This time he will lose, its only a matter of time! 
 ::boxingjoran::

Hello all and thanks to everyone for staying the course and providing updates.  That interview with John Kelley was great.  He has Joran pegged.  Smart man.  I bet the judges in Peru have him figured out as well.  May 2012 be the year that JVS pays. 

THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL

Monkeys Media Reminder … Beth Holloway & Peter R. DeVries on Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio
February 13th, 2008

Beth Holloway:

47:50 - "I feel strongly that he (Joran) is a time bomb that is waiting to go off.  He will strike again.  It is not just for Natalee that I would like to see him behind bars.  I think he has shown us all he has no control over himself or his actions."

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/02/13/monkeys-media-reminder-beth-holloway-peter-r-devries-on-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio/

NANCY GRACE
Van Der Sloot Trial Postponed in Peru
Aired January 6, 2012 - 20:00   ET

JEAN CASAREZ, GUEST HOST: Joran Van Der Sloot - - he took control of that courtroom today, beyond anybody, the prosecution, the judges. It was believed he was going to accept the responsibility for killing Stephany Flores, but no. No, he said, I`ve got to think about it a while. He`s had a year-and-a-half in solitary confinement to think about it.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/06/ng.01.html

If anyone else missed this show and is interested, the podcast is up!   ::MonkeyCool::

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/01/05/daily-commentary-thursday-january-5-2012-a-preview-of-tonights-dana-pretzer-show/

The Dana Pretzer Show – Thursday, January 5, 2012 – 2011 a Year in Review

 ::snipping2::

Dana welcomes special guests:

From our sister site, Blink from BlinkonCrime
Our own RED, owner of Scared Monkeys

 ::snipping2::

 The Dana Pretzer Show – Thursday, January 5, 2012: Download Podcast

 ::rhino::

I'd missed your post yesterday, but I see we were thinking alike as I'm sure most of us that have followed this were.

It's always good to see you!   ::MonkeyKiss::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8KsSpi7310

From The Early Show

Will van der Sloot trial be tied to Holloway?

Published on Jan 7, 2012 by CBS
Joran Van der Sloot asked for more time to enter a plea in Peru in his trial for allegedly killing a woman there. A guilty plea might drastically shorten his sentence. Will the tactic work? And prosecutors could try to link any plea deal to info on Natalee Holloway. Betty Nguyen reports, then John Miller speaks with famed defense lawyer Barry Slotnick about the trial.

What if they made a plea deal that linked Natalee?? Could the U.S. then up their own charges to murder when they get Joran over here for extortion??

John Q. Kelly

DR. DREW
Aired January 6, 2012 - 21:00:00   ET

<snipped>

PINSKY: He said he wanted to make a, quote, "sincere confession," unquote, which could potentially qualify him for a reduced sentence.

John Q. Kelly, you know, I`m looking at this guy, and I know Beth has just been through just awful experiences with him. I`m not - I don`t believe he`s capable of a sincere anything. What are Natalee`s mom`s thoughts?

JOHN Q. KELLY, ATTORNEY FOR BETH HOLLOWAY: Well, she has been down this road with him. She knows that he`s certainly not capable of a sincere confession or any sort of a truthful answer, truthful statement.

I mean, I think everybody is over reading his body language and things. He went into court today to telegraph his aloofness, sort of a first shot over the bow that I don`t care what you do to me, we`re going to do this on my terms or we`re not going to do it. He went in there. He was a former poker. He had the prosecution play their hand and want to hear exactly what they were going to say.

Now he wants to go back and craft whatever he`s going to say in court Wednesday, and Doctor, you`re not going to hear a sincere confession Wednesday either. He`s going to push. He`s going to give the minimum he can get. He`s going to engage in brinkmanship. And this wouldn`t get done Wednesday either. He doesn`t want to admit to the intentional murder and he doesn`t want to admit to the robbery.

Those things were conveyed today when he shook his head and looked away when they bring up certain facts, you could see what he was going to contest.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/06/ddhln.01.html

John Q. Kelly

DR. DREW
Aired January 6, 2012 - 21:00:00   ET

<snipped>

KELLY: He`s scammed so many people out of so much money with so many stories, and I spent a rather lengthy amount of time with him one on one a couple of times in the last month before he went to Peru on this murder. He told me how he, you know, hood winked everybody, how he made fools of everybody.

And I can tell you when he was in that courtroom today, there`s no doubt that he thinks he is the smartest person in that courtroom. He thinks he is much smarter than those judges. He thinks he`s much smarter than the prosecutor and he thinks he`s much smarter than his own attorney. He is relying on himself and he thinks he is going to get the better of everybody.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/06/ddhln.01.html

John Q. Kelly

DR. DREW
Aired January 6, 2012 - 21:00:00   ET

<snipped>

KELLY: Joran van der Sloot was born a self absorbed, attention-seeking, control freak who lives in a world of fiction he`s created from his youth where he`s always right, everybody else is wrong. Anything that happens, it`s not his fault, it`s the other person.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/06/ddhln.01.html

Hello Carpe, we're still here ! Amazing.
....
Saw NG last night or whatever program it was on CNN. The one where Michael Griffin called John Ludwig an idiot. Made my evening.
..
I think he will plead guilty, but then have a back story of how it was everyone else's fault.
Don't think he is going to admit to any intent beforehand. It's going to be just one of those things, Stephanie enraged him, he got angry and killed her. And it it going to be the fault of
what has been going on for the past five years, the hounding in the Holloway case. He just snapped when it was brought up again. He probably has to consult with the persons who are supporting him to find a " guilty " story that doesn't make him look so bad for a lesser sentence. He is after all smarter than everyone else, that is why he is in Peru in prison and
99.999% of the rest of the world isn't.

Dave Holloway

NANCY GRACE
Van Der Sloot Trial Postponed in Peru
Aired January 6, 2012 - 20:00   ET

<snipped>

DAVE HOLLOWAY, FATHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: Well, I really felt sorry for the Flores family after they gave a statement. And I knew that they were really expecting justice today. And we have been in that situation many times before where we expect the best, and then you get -- your emotions are down on the ground. So I`m sure they`ll pick themselves up and, Wednesday morning, hope for the best.

CASAREZ: You know, Dave Holloway, what you just made me realize is that the modus operandi, the way Joran Van Der Sloot goes about this was repeated in the courtroom today. How many times did he say, I will tell everyone what happened to Natalee Holloway, and the expectation has built, and then it doesn`t happen, or it`s a lie.

And today the expectation was there that he would accept the responsibility, and once again, it didn`t happen. He didn`t come through.

HOLLOWAY: No, he`s done this many times before. And he didn`t come into that courtroom unprepared. I think this was all planned out. And I was kind of surprised when he was coming into the court saying that he was going to plead guilty, and then when the judge asked him to behave in court, his behavior got worse. And I was thinking, you know, he`s just -- you know, killing himself in front of the judge by acting in the manner he was acting in.

I said, I was thinking, you know, if he continues the judge is going to slap him for the full 30. And then when he asked for more time, I thought, well, he`s intentionally angered the judge. Hopefully she won`t react out of emotion rather than rationality. And they did give him the extra time. I thought well, he`s trying to do what he did in our case, is try to cause enough issues and problems where he can get this to appeal to a higher court and possibly out of the country of Peru.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/06/ng.01.html

[ ::MonkeyShocked::

b]John Ludwick[/b]

NANCY GRACE
Van Der Sloot Trial Postponed in Peru
Aired January 6, 2012 - 20:00   ET

<snipped>

JOHN LUDWICK, FRIEND OF JORAN VAN DER SLOOT: One thing that doesn`t sit right with me is the clip we keep hearing of Stephany Flores` father saying that he`s glad that his daughter, you know, gave her life to lock up a killer. As far as we know, his daughter created a killer by going on his laptop and looking up stuff about Natalee and then -- when he came back the room confronting him about, you know, what did you do to the girl?

And you know that`s when, I guess, the altercation happened and Stephany lost her life. If she hadn`t have been nosey and confronted him about that, and maybe she would have died. If she -- if she was worried, she should have just left the room and not made a confrontation like that. She created a killer as far as I`m concerned. We don`t know if he was a killer before that.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/06/ng.01.html

All in one post, and pretty dang close to the transcript that has now obviously been published!  Of course watching and hearing is always better than just reading imo.  John Q. Kelly definitely has Joran's "number" imo.

 ::MonkeyWink:: ::monkeywine2::

This is another part of the show last night that I found interesting, but didn't take the time to type out and share...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/06/ddhln.01.html

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PINSKY: Joran van der Sloot tells a Peruvian court he needs more time to think before pleading guilty to having murdered 21-year-old Stephany Flores.

Joining me now is attorney for Beth Holloway, John Q. Kelly, and body language expert Susan Constantine.

Susan, I`m going to ask you first. What did you make of his behavior in court today? We`re going to look at some images where he`s dozing off - we`re trying to get that up on the screen here as we`re going to look at this. He`s dozing off. He`s yawning. He seems insolent.

This guy - this guy really bothers me, and I`m not sure IO can put my finger on why, just looking at his body language, but maybe you can put a little fine point on that for us.

SUSAN CONSTANTINE, BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT: Well, if you could imagine that everything that goes on inside of us, our thoughts and all of our emotion is exhibited through our nonverbal communication, I am certain that all night long he probably tossed and turned, thought, tossed and turned more, and what we`re seeing is of course part of his personality. He really doesn`t care. So he`s got that detachment.

But in addition to that, you can see his long eye closures, the darkening around his eyes and you could also see his eyes shift. So when you`re seeing these shifts, he has almost kind of like a lazy eye. I think that, you know, he`s sleep deprived. That`s what it appears to me, Dr. Drew.

PINSKY: It`s as simple as sleep deprivation or is it sleep deprivation. And you`re saying the shifty eyes, to me, that`s just - that means that he`s like trying to manipulate his way out of this.

CONSTANTINE: No, that`s not what I`m saying.

PINSKY: OK. Go ahead.

CONSTANTINE: That`s not what I`m saying. What I`m saying is that, you know, it`s like someone has a lazy eye, where their eyes sometimes shift very lazily over to one side and come back because he`s trying to refocus. You could also see more clouding around his eyes, because he`s not real fresh looking. I mean, he looks tired.

So in addition to that is about his attitude. That`s also plays into it. And, you know, well, he is very arrogant. He has no empathy. We know that he is also a sociopath. What`s new? We already know that already.

But the one thing that I would like you to see what every one may be missing is that how he is answering those questions, even though it`s in another language, it really doesn`t matter. Because when he`s talking about giving a sincere confession, at that exact time, his eyes become very narrowed. His eyes become very squinted. His mouth becomes more horizontal and his lips get very tightened. That`s anger, OK?

So he is feeling more anger. He is very sinister in a lot of his expressions, and, see, that`s what I`m seeing in his body language.

PINSKY: I love the word "sinister" because that feels right with what I`m looking at here.

CONSTANTINE: Right.

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Hi Kat_Gram

 ::HelloKitty::

The comment made my evening too!!

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
Van Der Sloot Trial Postponed in Peru
Aired January 6, 2012 - 20:00   ET

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MICHAEL GRIFFITH, INTERNATIONAL LAW ATTORNEY/CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY (via phone):  Jean, I want to say something to you. This Mr. Ludwick, I don`t know what`s wrong with this man. This is a first class idiot. For him to go on national television and to say because she looked into his computer that this was her fault, and that he was entrapped. OK. When Van Der Sloot accepted $25,000 -- now I can see why this man is friends with Joran Van Der Sloot. This guy is a complete cretin. And for him to go on national TV to say this I think disgusting. OK? I mean how dare him.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1201/06/ng.01.html

Mine too Kat_gram, I was screaming much worse!   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyMad::

And yes, his lawyer is already using the "under duress" excuse that they're hoping will contribute to a lesser sentence.  I hope the judges don't fall for that crap and give him the maximum they can.  Regardless of what sentence he gets, I just hope it's true and they send him to the prison deemed the "Siberia" of prisons in Peru.  I'm tired of him living the good life in Castro Castro.  At least if he's there, if his admirer from Florida goes to see him maybe there won't be members of the press there interested in anything she has to say.

jmo

Hello Miss Janet. I think of you when I go to Tim's and get an old fashioned plain. Funny how stuff sticks in my brain.
Joran is the way he is because he has always been that way. Some sort of a personality disorder or a brain issue or a mental health issue that was never acknowleded by his parents. They let him rule the roost and they gave into him every time. If anyone created a killer, it was them. Having Anita as staff at his school, well she contiuned to enable him. Paulus being the legal person in the family further gave Joran permission to act the way he did as they were going to get him out of anything he ever did. Val seemed to have turned out ok, the other one seems to be headed in the same direction as Joran. In all these years, my opinion him and the Sloots hasn't changed one bit.       

I have taken a risk in the last six months and diverted from an "old fashion plain".  A stop at Tim Hortons implies an "apple fritter" with a cuppa tea.

Kat_Gram ... I agree 100% with your take on why Joran's journey in life has led him down the road to where he is today.  Although Joran knows right from wrong and must take responsibility for his actions ... the enablers in his life pave the way.

Janet

http://issuu.com/themorningnews/docs/january_7__2012

The Morning News (Aruba)
January 7, 2012 Page 6

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Another suicide...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.diario.aw/2012/01/a-confisca-curpa-di-venezolano-cu-a-comete-suicidio/

Papiamentu translation:

owing to confisca curpa of venezolano cu owing to comete suicidio

publication: friday, 6 january 2012.

categoria: general

oranjestad (aan); autoridad owing to confisca curpa of one muher venezolano yesterday morning. in transcurso of diahuebs morning, police owing to ricibi one calling y is ask presencia of patrol at one direccion at pos diminutive complex 9-c. patrol owing to bay at the cas y they owing to achieve one cumpra of a muher cu do not reacciona. at once the will other autoridad owing to worde notifica for present at the direccion. recherche, docer, police uniforma fuera fiscal also owing to worde poni at height of the sucedido. owing to resulta cu is deal of the madam for some time end will is deprimi y will have intencion less good cu his self. doctor van der linden owing to constata dead of the madam. the victima naci at venezuela owing to bay at the these direccion upstairs menciona close his amigo. for one or another motibo for cual also fiscal owing to consulta cu doctor y recherche owing to dicidi y ordena for her curpa worde confisca y practica autopsia for determina kico owing to conduci dead of the madam 47 year of edad. do not conoci cu will can owing to drink cantidad of pildora cu owing to consecuencia of overdosis past owing to enter in coma y fayece, but autopsia will determina his dead. is deal of the madam maria cloud tanqueva naci at venezuela 28 of august 1965 y was life at one direccion situa at kudawecha. at family of maria word of deep condolencia y for her sosega at paz.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/11252392/___Joran_gaat_schuld_bekennen___.html

Google translation

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Happy New Year!

You have been missed to.  I watched in Musings for posts of your Christmas cookies.  Could it be that you have finally met that tall, good looking European?

None ... how is Peaches' husband and daughter doing.  I think of them often.  I think of Peaches often.

Anyways ... I agree that the brutal murder of Stephany Flores would not have happened if enablers and a corrupt Aruban investigation had not prevented justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway.

Janet

 :smt060

More of the same:

http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=10582 (http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=10582)

Joran van der Sloot hints he’ll plead guilty
Posted by Aruba Daily on January 6th, 2012

LIMA, Peru — Joran van der Sloot asked for more time Friday to decide how to plead as his trial opened in the murder of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman. The Dutch citizen said he was inclined to confess but doesn’t accept the aggravated murder charges sought by the prosecution.

The presiding magistrate of the three-judge panel ordered the trial to resume on Jan. 11.

When he was asked moments earlier by presiding judge Victoria Montoya to enter a plea, Van der Sloot answered:

“I want to give a sincere confession, but I don’t agree with all the charges that have been placed on me by the prosecutor. Can I have more time to think about this?”

The 24-year-old defendant, who is also the prime suspect in the unsolved 2005 disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, had repeatedly shaken his head as the prosecutor described for the three judges how Van der Sloot allegedly beat and strangled the victim, intending to rob her.

Van der Sloot long ago admitted to police that he killed Stephany Flores in his Lima hotel room on May 30, 2010.

But he claimed in that confession that he did it in a fit of rage after she discovered Van der Sloot’s connection to Holloway’s disappearance on Aruba, the Caribbean island where he was raised. Police forensic experts have disputed that version of events.

Defense attorney Jose Luis Jimenez told The Associated Press before the hearing that there was a 70 percent chance Van der Sloot would plead guilty, which could help him get a reduced sentence.

Prosecutors are seeking a 30-year prison sentence on murder and theft charges.

Jimenez contends his client was in a state of emotional distress when he killed Flores and would “seek to reduce the charge from first-degree murder to simple homicide.”

The latter carries a prison sentence of from eight to 20 years.

Van der Sloot entered the courtroom in Lurigancho prison in Lima Friday morning in a blue blazer and faded blue jeans with a bulletproof vest beneath the jacket. He sported a crew cut and wore an untucked long-sleeved gray shirt.

He took off the vest in the courtroom, which lacked air conditioning, and fidgeted, yawning several times and slouching in his chair.

That drew Judge Montoya’s reproach.

“Sit up straight and show some respect for the court,” she told him.
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No remorse!  No conscience!  Arrogant!  Disrespectful!

If any justice is to prevail for Stephany Flores ... the Peruvian judge will afforded Joran van der sloot the 30 year maximum sentence on Wednesday if he pleads guilty to the prosecution's charges.

Janet

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

Awe Mainta (Aruba)
January 7, 2012

Front Page

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In Natalee's Room

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Page 1-2:  It's early morning, and the house is quiet.  I'm still lying in bed, eyes closed.  I don't want to open them, because when I do, I'll have to face the day I've dreaded the most for the past twenty months.  Today I have to pack up Natalee's things for the last time.  Today I will have to say the final good-bye.  And I'm not ready.

Eyes still closed, I hear an occasional car pass in front of the house.  Another one stops across the street, and I hear the car door open, letting music and cheerful muffled voices escape for a moment.  Then close again.  The stillness in the house is interrupted by the harmonious tapping of little paws as Macy the dog and Carl the cat move across the hardwood floors.  Stopping for a moment.  Then tapping again.  The cold morning brings the sounds of life's activities as people step into another day of their routines.

Maybe if I don't open my eyes this day will just pass and I won't have to face what I have to do.  The painful inevitable chore that has been looming over me since my beautiful daughter, Natalee disappeared on the last night of her senior high school trip to Aruba.  The day has come to take her room apart and box it up.  I have to go through her belongings, which have remained untouched since she left home on May 26, 2005.  The movers will be here day after tomorrow.

Nothing of my life before Natalee disappeared in Aruba has remained intact.  Not my career.  Not my home.  Not my marriage.  My husband, Jug, and I are divorcing after six years.  My son, Natalee's younger brother, Matt, and I are moving in two days.  I have a lot to do.

I manage to swing my legs off the bed and sit up.  Reluctantly, I open my eyes and sit on the edge for a few moments.  I feel like concrete.  Heavy.  Very heavy.  Finally I stand up and slowly walk a half dozen steps or so down the short hall and turn right at Natalee's bedroom doorway ...

Page 16:  I'm glad I'm alone to recount the events that have brought me to this place on this morning, preparing to pack up and leave this house and Mountain Brook. Standing in the doorway of Natalee's room, I unwillingly step inside to the center of it, look around slowly, take it all in. In what feels like slow motion, I bend my knees until they touch the floor, rest my hands on the light cream-colored rug in front of me, and roll over onto my right side. Curling up in a fetal position, my head tucked down, arms crossing over my chest, I close my eyes again. And the cry I have fought off for almost two years finally comes. The final good-bye cry. And it comes hard. From somewhere deep, deep inside me. And it feels as if it will never stop. As if the pain can never be contained again.

http://peru21.pe/2012/01/07/impresa/holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-se-burla-justicia-peruana-2006369

Google translation

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Thank you TM for taking the time to transcribe.  Even though I watched/heard it I've come back to your post twice to catch something.  Your layout was easy to read, imo

He is so arrogant!  I agree - John Q Kelley has him pegged.

Good to see you Sleuth!! 

Thank you Sleuth!   ::MonkeyCool::

Good to see you!   

I swear this punk doesn't know how to do anything but play games.  I just wish there was an island somewhere for the likes of him and KC Anthony.  All those self-serving monsters could thin out their own herd. 

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1357797/noticia-joran-van-der-sloot-no-puede-acogerse-confesion-sincera

Google translation

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http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1357731/noticia-mas-70-periodistas-extranjeros-cubren-lima-caso-van-der-sloot

Google translate

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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2103945,00.html?xid=gonewsedit

Waiting for the Sentence: Joran van der Sloot's Slow Road to Justice
By Lucien Chauvin / Lima Friday, Jan. 06, 2012

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The prosecution wants van der Sloot found guilty of first degree murder, which carries a maximum sentence of 30 years — with the possibility of parole. The prosecution had initially wanted a different charge — aggravated robbery with death — which could impose a life sentence, but the court rejected the request last November.
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Van der Sloot's attorney, José Luis Jiménez, says Dutchman's defense is not about proving innocence, but trying to wrangle a lighter sentence than the 30 years requested by the prosecution. "Joran has never denied his involvement in Stephany Flores' death, but he disagrees with the charges formulated by the state," Jiménez told TIME outside Lurigancho.

Van der Sloot and his lawyer object to the "aggravating circumstances" in the first-degree murder charge and that Flores' death was accidental. The defense argument is that van der Sloot should be convicted on manslaughter charges, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years.�It allows for parole after one-third of the sentence is served.

(MORE: From Aruba to Lima: The Case of Joran van der Sloot)

The prosecution maintains that the maximum sentence is justified, because the murder was premeditated and "cruelly and ferociously" carried out.�One of the reasons for the premeditation argument is the fact that Holloway disappeared on May 30 and van der Sloot, the prosecutors alleged, marked the anniversary with a second murder.
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The Flores case, on the other hand, is loaded with what seems to be a weight of evidence.�Prosecutor Jose Santisteban told the court that van der Sloot and Flores fought after returning to his hotel room to play on-line poker.�He said she received a message from someone who had been at the poker tournament, warning her of van der Sloot's alleged murder of Holloway. The prosecutor said that Flores had been brutally beaten and that van der Sloot strangled her with a bloody shirt. The police report from the murder scene at the Hotel Tac, a nondescript box next to a gas station, states that Flores' skull was fractured and she suffered significant blows to the face.

Jimenez argues van der Sloot did not set out to kill Flores. He also objects to the idea that the murder was somehow premeditated, because the two had just met.  ::snipping2::

Van der Sloot's could gamble and enter a "not guilty" plea on Jan. 11 in the hope that Montoya and the two other female judges hearing the case lean toward a manslaughter verdict.�If he lets stand the charge as filed, he will automatically receive the 30-year sentence with the chance of parole in 10 years. He will have the right to appeal that sentence.
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Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2103945,00.html#ixzz1iqUJfLIu

From the video...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45889216/ns/world_news-americas/t/natalee-holloway-suspect-joran-van-der-sloot-begin-murder-trial/#.TwlGsaXwtQ0

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Holding back tears Stephany's father says he hasn't been able to mourn his daughter's death, a year and a half later.  "I hope when this is over I will finally be able to cry."

Also from the video...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45889216/ns/world_news-americas/t/natalee-holloway-suspect-joran-van-der-sloot-begin-murder-trial/#.TwlGsaXwtQ0

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"Both of our daughters met their fate at the hands of the same killer."

"I would have done anything in order to have this day for Natalee's case."

After all these years, watching Beth on that video can still break my heart.  God Bless you Beth and I hope you gain some peace from a successful outcome of this trial, along with Stephany's family.

I do not understand the need for a delay while the charges to be faced have to be thought about.  Surely Joran has had ample time over the past 19 months sitting on his butt in a jail cell to know what he plans to plead.

TexasMom thank you for the transcripts as I do not get many of the interviews on our TV channels here.  I appreciate what you do to keep us all up to date.

It is so good to see so many monkeys posting again that have stayed with this case over the years.  May we all be rejoicing at the outcome.

I wonder if Joran ever thinks about his life before Natalee? I so hope he misses the sound of the ocean, or the feel of family around him. Maybe he doesn't even think about those things, but I'd bet he misses the feeling that he is in control of his life. I don't think even Joran can look around him at this point and maintain that cocky feeling............. he works hard at trying to look like he still feels that way, but it's pretty transparent.

I think that "need a little more time" move in court is the result of that. He's got to know that life in prison will change after the trial, and I think he just choked. He's afraid, more afraid than he's ever been in his life and there's no way out this time. He's trapped, just as surely as he trapped Natalee and Stephany. He can't get away, just as they could not. His duration of anticipation is far longer than his victims. His anxiety build up from realizing coming and certain death, has been slow and drawn out, but I do believe he knows.

This is it, Monkeys. While this trial is not Natalee's trial, Natalee's case will seal his fate and Natalee's case will be the cause of his failure to reduce the charges and sentence. It will be Natalee that removes the last hope of ever walking free or walking out of prison alive. That pesky fact of the 5th anniversary and the searches about Natalee made by Joran, are going to shut down his best efforts. I even believe that one Beth Holloway had more to do with his arrogant posture in court than any other person on earth, and she can be proud of that. He hates that Beth might view his circumstances with satisfaction.

This is Natalee's justice. We're going to see it and there is nowhere for Joran to run except back within those prison walls to his death. I believe the Flores Family's influence will assure that Joran's experience in prison, post trial, will be to their liking.

We are about to see Justice's path intersect with Joran's, and that scale she's holding has his name on it.

http://trome.pe/actualidad/1358230/noticia-martin-nizama-joran-tiene-perfil-psicopata

Google translation

Sunday January 8, 2012 - 09:50
Nizama Martin: 'Joran has the profile of a psychopath'
Psychiatrist analyzed gestures and attitudes of Dutch killed Stephany Flores.

The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (24) is cold, calculating and not regret anything, so has the profile of a psychopath, the psychiatrist concluded Nizama Martin.

The specialist examined the attitudes of the murderer of Stephany Flores (21), during his presentation at the Third Criminal Chamber Defendants Jail, where he was defiant, threw himself into a chair, yawned and scratched his head, so that the judge caught his attention.

"Mark the area as saying" I am the owner of the room, "but then comes anxiety. He scratches the body, touch, takes off his clothes, because at heart he is a coward, "said Nizam.

Van der Sloot added that has the profile of a "primary psychopath". "Inability to feel values ​​have to respect rules, to feel guilt or regret," he said.

To Nizama, that the defendant seeks to benefit from a sincere confession, accepting that killed Stephany, is just a legal strategy (to receive fewer years in prison), "but he does not feel guilty."

NO BENEFITS

In turn, José Camarena, an attorney for Ricardo Flores, the victim's father, said that the EU does not qualify for the figure of a sincere confession.

"At this stage of the process, this benefit does not apply technically. The Chamber raised him and he asked those alternatives term to coordinate details. On Wednesday give its final opinion, "he said.

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If the Dutch accepted the charges, the penalty may be reduced to 15 years or less.

http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2012/01_januari/08/binnenland/joran-van-der-sloot-spontaan-en-optimistisch-advocaat-jimenez.xml

Google translation

RTL News | January 8, 2012, 16:01
Lawyer: Joran optimistic

Joran is spontaneous and makes fast friends in prison in Peru. Navarro Jimenez says that his lawyer in an interview with Nina Jurna for RTL News
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Jose Jimenez Navarro, a lawyer for Van der Sloot, was world-famous overnight. One after another camera crew comes to his home, an office for the inexperienced lawyer yet. Jimenez took over the business from his uncle, who stepped down as attorney of Joran after dispute over money.

Jiménez makes the best of Joran in prison. "He is sitting with three prisoners in a cell, where he has entered into friendship. He uses all the possibilities out there, he works in the prison and is optimistic."

A fair trial
Joran attorney doubts whether his client a fair trial. "He has from the outset had no interpreter, he just had to sign documents and Stephany's family is very influential and has great power here." Tomorrow will discuss with his lawyer, Van der Sloot's strategy for the next meeting. Scheduled for Wednesday at 16:00 hours Dutch time.

Hi Tibro!   ::HelloKitty::

It is still heartbreaking to watch Beth especially knowing how long she and all of Natalee's loved ones have waited for Justice and answers.  It's just not right.  That's why it makes me so mad when the defender's of Joran try to blame his being hounded and questioned about Natalee all these years as a reason for his madness and actions.  Natalee's family has only done what any family should do in their situation...never give up!  Fortunately they have had help from many in the media to keep searching for the answers they need and deserve.  And Joran has PUT HIMSELF back in the spotlight MANY TIMES when he needed money; and has only added to the torment he's put Natalee's loved ones through.  But his defender's don't seem to have a problem with that!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

Joran has had ample time to know what he wanted to do; as John Q. Kelly said this delay is just one more way of his trying to have control.  He thinks he's smarter than them all!  I think the judges only granted it so it wouldn't be a point for appeal; so I'm glad they did.  jmo

He is just trying to manipulate the system in Peru like his father taught him so well.  All of the complaints he's filed are part of that, and I'm sure we'll see more before this is over.

I can just imagine what attorneys will join him to try to manipulate the justice system here when he is eventually extradited to Alabama to face charges.  I feel sure that work is already in progress.

You're welcome Tibro.  I have kind of spread myself thin (with the time I have) following more than just Natalee and Stephany's cases so I don't transcribe as much as I usually would.  But there are some things I see or hear that stand out that I want to share with everyone right away.

It does my heart good to see so many monkeys back and posting too!  And I hope we can all rejoice together here soon as well.  As Beth has said many times, justice comes in many forms.  And although this trial is about Stephany's murder in particular; justice for her will also be some justice for Natalee.  I'll still continue to pray for the day when Natalee and her family receive the answers and ultimate justice they all deserve. 

Thank you CBB.

Janet

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Natalee Holloway's Mom: Aruba Investigators 'Not Following Up on Any Leads'
Wednesday, November 19, 2008

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BETH HOLLOWAY: And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

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Waiting for the Sentence: Joran van der Sloot's Slow Road to Justice
By Lucien Chauvin / Lima
Friday, Jan. 06, 2012

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2103945,00.html?xid=gonewsedit

ITA CBB!   ::MonkeyKiss::

I'm sure he does miss having control over his life whether he'd want anyone to know it or not.    He knew he'd be on television everywhere and just look at him at his trial.  He looked pale, clammy, really bad hair cut, a glaring zit that was very prominent in one picture I saw (hehe) , dressed poorly...and his behavior was horrible but that was all he had control over so he used that.  If I could have captured it I would have but there was a point right after the judges were seated that there was a look in his eyes of the disdain he had for the women judges...like yeah right they're going to judge ME!  Well IMO that is justice in one form too.  It disgusted me to hear some of the commentators question whether Joran would captivate these women judges...since he is such a ladies man...and influence their decision in this case!  GMAFB! 

But you're right CBB, Natalee will be in the minds of all who judge Joran.  And he played as much a role in that as anyone.  He used Natalee in his lies to his mother and the Chilean authorities in the BS story he made up about "what really happened".  That story was pathetic, and just goes to show how much help Joran had in Aruba from his father.  But Joran didn't have him there to "get the story straight" this time.  His lies were pathetic, and they didn't fool anyone...except maybe his mother and some of her cronies?  And then when Chile expelled him back to Peru instead of allowing him to go back to Aruba...he wants to talk to the Aruban authorities about Natalee?  Now why would he want to do that if he was innocent in Natalee's case?  So even without a trial or conviction in Natalee's case, I feel confident that Joran himself has left little if any doubt in the minds of those in Peru, who may not have known about the events in Aruba when they happened...but who know what went on after his arrest in Stephany's case; that he was GUILTY in Natalee's case as well!  He didn't have a clean up crew in Peru either, and the evidence of many kinds speaks of his desperation and proves exactly who murdered Stephany!

Joran's meeting face to face with Justice has been a long time coming; he has only delayed the inevitable.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ::

Well said, TM!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

We're going to see it............. justice for Natalee. How incredibly tragic that another young girl has lost her life and another family is left to cope with the loss because Joran was allowed to walk free.

Those cigars can be lit. The ticking clock is about to chime.

Absolutely CBB, tragic indeed.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I totally agree.

Because Aruba allowed him to get away with murder.

Aruba's new slogan.  If you need to get away with murder come and enjoy the sun and we will take care of the rest.

Psalm 28:
The LORD is my strength and my shield; in him my heart trusts, and I am helped.

Loving Natalee
A Mother’s Testament of Hope and Faith
By Beth Holloway

Pages 100: He entrusted me with her care for eighteen years.  Now I must trust Him to care for her.  So I never ask Him why.  Why Natalee?  Why me?  I don't ask.  To do that undermines faith.  Instead, I form an "acceptance trust" with Him there on the windy hillside.
 
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.


He Will Carry You
 
There is no problem too big
God cannot solve
There is no mountain too tall
He cannot move
There is not storm too dark
God cannot calm
There is no sorrow too deep
He cannot soothe

If He carried the weight of the world upon His shoulders
I know, my brother that He will carry you
If He carried the weight of the world upon His shoulders
I know, my sister that He will carry you

He said come on to me all who are weary
And I will give you rest

Scott Wesley Brown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JEsJJYjyI

http://www.nd.nl/artikelen/2012/januari/08/-overplaatsing-joran-is-fabeltje

Google translation

Sunday hours 08-01-201218:49
"Transfer Joran's fable"

Reports that the prison service in Peru INPE plans to Joran to be transferred to the notorious prison Challapalca are pure fantasy. That says Van der Sloot's lawyer, Jose Jimenez Navarro. He said there has never been the case for his client to the "Siberia of Peru" would be sent, as the prison in the Andes Mountains is also called.

 ::snipping2::

The Challapalca prison, located in the district of Tacna in southern Peru, was opened in 1996 in particular members of terrorist groups like the Shining Path to close. The human rights situation in these prisons is controversial. This includes, but less so for the Miguel Castro Castro Prison.

Video at link (Spanish)

http://elcomercio.pe/lima/1357733/noticia-conoce-tres-mujeres-que-juzgaran-joran-van-der-sloot

Google translation

Meet three women who judge Joran van der Sloot
Victoria Montoya, Martha Vargas, Pilar Carbonell should confirm or deny the request for 30 years against the Dutch
Saturday January 7, 2012 - 12:13 am

Three judges make up the third criminal division for inmates in jail. They will be up to them to confirm or deny the request of 30 years in prison did the prosecution against Joran van der Sloot for aggravated homicide of the young Stephany Flores.

 ::snipping2::

The judge who presides over the room, Victoria Montoya Peraldo was who ruled last year against FAP instructors Vicente Mendoza Jorge Gutierrez, Abraham Rojas Marcos Gaitan Cave and Narro, confirming that tortured the Air Force recruits Frank Romero Arrieta .

In 2010, Judge Martha Vargas Gonzales integrated the fourth room for inmates in jail penalty which gave freedom to the folk singer Abencio Meza, when the artist was six months in the Women's Criminal Chorrillos. Also sentenced to 25 years to three barristers Alianza Lima that killed a worker stoned to steal the phone.

Pilar Carbonell, meanwhile, was investigated by the OCMA to release two books counterfeiters just a couple of days after they were captured.

Interesting that ole Joran will be judged by 3 women.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I watched the video and they all 3 look very serious and appear to be taking their job seriously.  I'd think his pompass attitude would do him no favors. 

Time for justice to prevail.  Hang him.   ::MonkeyHang:: ::MonkeyHang::

 ::rhino::

ITA, Frijoli! It's just perfect that women will judge Joran. Something tells me his charm has waned.   ::MonkeyTongue::

The good monkey family is still here! See you all on the 11th! Wish he'd come here and the good ole boys from Ala. would show him how it is. OK, it will be done lawfully! then maybe Aruba will understand our system! (remembering a quote from Arline Schippers (sp)

 ::justice2NJ:: and Peaches

That did not escape me, either. What a kick in his egg basket... to be a stark raging psychopath with a white hot 'hate-on' for women... and then be forced to stand in front of them and basically beg for his life.

You know he has to be hating that... which of course means that I'm loving it.

Furthermore, I hope they are three of the meanest ol' hens in all of Peru.

In the end, after they have sentenced him to life in prison, when asked why they made the decision that they did...

I hope one of those ol' girls says "I think he looks like a jerk and acts like a jerk... and if you ask me, I think he was ASKING FOR IT!"

I want to live to see this thing come full circle. No story has ever touched me as much as Natalee's and Stephany's.

No innocent should ever have to suffer the way I know they did. It's the year 2012. 12 in the Bible symbolizes AUTHORITY.

I'd love to see Joran get a good ol' fashion down home azz whoopin' and be forced to answer to authority.

This better be that year that we finally get to witness it. It's time to put that man-boy out of business.

Body= Man
Brain= Mischievous Little Boy
Heart = Coward
Soul = Only remnants remain where one used to live, long ago. A soul must be fed to keep it alive - it's a living thing like a tree, it needs food, water, and air for sustenance.
His looks like a burnt out barbecue grill. Nothing left. It was poisoned by himself and a family who claimed to "love" him. It's odd how one person's definition of love can be
another person's definition of hate.

Paul and Miss Clown Shoes must have hated Joran the Moron to death.

Ya see, love should never hurt you or your family. If it does - then it has become hate with a fake 'love mask' on.

Learn how to discern it - recognize as quickly as possible, and get away from hate/fake love. Nothing ever good comes from it.

It's like stepping down a spiral staircase in to a dungeon. There is always a point of no return, where you wish you could change it, but it's too late.


Joran is doomed - yet like a fool, he still has the energy to laugh & smirk. There is little time left for Joran in this world. The clock ticking just keeps getting faster and louder for him.

God Bless the Holloways & the Flores families through this dark time. They need our real love and prayers to see this thing through to THE END.

Good one Carpe - as always spot on.  Meanest old hens in Peru. ::MonkeyDevil::

Hope they peck his eyes out. He is overdue.

I'm still intrigued by Anita's name change back to her maiden name. You do that when you get divorced - NOT when you are widowed?

Much more behind that, IMO.

 ::justice2NJ::

o/t good to see you IBE -- have been concerned.

 ::rhino::

Hi IBE

 ::HelloKitty::

It has been a while.  I hope all is well.  See ya on the 11th.

Janet

Eight offshore banks are the subject of United States federal grand jury investigations examining whether they helped Americans evade taxes, a sign that authorities may be ready to issue subpoenas to those banks as part of a crackdown on offshore tax cheating.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/20/us-offshorebanks-idUSTRE78J30E20110920


The latest turn in the Wegelin case comes amid a broad criminal probe by the U.S. Justice Department of 11 Swiss and Swiss-style banks, including Wegelin, suspected of selling offshore tax evasion services to tens of thousands of wealthy Americans. Inquiries, growing out of scrutiny of UBS, are focused on Credit Suisse AG and Basler Kantonalbank among others.
http://news.yahoo.com/u-moves-toward-legal-action-against-swiss-bank-060210358.html


The Aruban economy is very open and is highly dependent on tourism and offshore financial services.


FOLLOW THE MONEY
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4554.360
Part 2
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4554.400

You Murdered Stephany Flores
Joran: Si

(http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/01/06/213499-dutch-citizen-van-der-sloot-stands-in-front-of-a-judge-during-his-tria.jpg)

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120106063959-peru-van-der-sloot-yawns-story-top.jpg)

(http://kfmb.images.worldnow.com/images/16466230_BG1.jpg)

(http://www.abc6onyourside.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos//images/sloot_0rMrx.jpg)

I'm so glad to see your post IBE, I've been worried about you!   ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyKiss::