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Title: Fmr PSU Coach Jerry Sandusky Convicted on 45 Counts of Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 05, 2011, 08:20:54 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/former_penn_state_coach_jerry.html
Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky indicted on felony charges of sex crimes against minors
November 4, 2011

Sex abuse charges have been filed in Centre County against Penn State coaching legend and Second Mile charity founder Jerry Sandusky.

The charges follow a more-than two year grand jury investigation that began when a Clinton County teen alleged inappropriate contact against the 67-year-old former coach.

During the investigation, older allegations from 1998 surfaced as well. In the older case, Penn State police investigated inappropriate touching in a shower.

The charging paperwork has not yet made it to the District Magistrate Judge's office in Centre County. However, felony charges of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse of someone under 16, aggravated indecent assault, indecent assault of someone under 16, indecent assault of someone under 13, and corruption of minors charges have been filed in the state court docket system.

The offense dates include 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, and 2005. There are 40 counts included in the paperwork filed against him.

The Patriot-News first broke the story about the investigation in March, shortly after Penn State coach Joe Paterno testified before the the grand jury along with Penn State's interim senior vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley.

At one time, Sandusky was considered Paterno’s likely successor. During his 32 years on the sidelines, the College Township, Centre County resident was credited with turning Penn State into Linebacker U and producing such pro football greats as Jack Ham and LaVar Arrington.

Sandusky retired from Penn State shortly after the Alamo Bowl in December 1999, and began devoting all of his time to running The Second Mile, a children’s charity he founded in 1977 that reaches 200,000 kids in this state each year through programs and camps.

Last fall, he retired from day-to-day involvement, saying he wanted to spend more time with family and handle personal matters.
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Edit to change subject line to reflect the conviction and charges of Jerry Sandusky.  MB


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 05, 2011, 08:24:08 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203716204577020001842475304.html
Ex-Penn State Coach Sandusky Arrested on Sex Charges
November 5, 2011

A former Penn State defensive coordinator was accused Saturday of sexually abusing eight boys in a case that has rocked the Big Ten university.

Jerry Sandusky, 67 years old, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, the state attorney general's office said.
In addition, Penn State athletic director Tim Curley, 57, and Gary Schultz, 62, the school's vice president for finance and business, have been charged with perjury and failing to report what they knew about the allegations. Mr. Schultz's position includes oversight of the university's police department. They were expected to turn themselves in Monday in Harrisburg.
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The case represents a major scandal for a school with one of the most pristine images in college sports. Penn State is one of just four major-conference schools that has never been found guilty of major violations by the NCAA. ("Major" violations are primarily ones that give a school a significant competitive or recruiting advantage.) Boston College, Northwestern and Stanford are the others.

Mr. Sandusky retired in 1999 but continued to work with at-risk children through the nonprofit Second Mile organization he founded in 1977. He was charged with multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor, as well as single counts of aggravated indecent assault and attempted indecent assault. A preliminary hearing for Mr. Sandusky is scheduled for Wednesday, but his lawyer told reporters it would likely be delayed.

"He's shaky, as you can expect," defense attorney Joe Amendola told WJAC-TV outside the arraignment hearing. "Being 67 years old, never having faced criminal charges in his life, and having the distinguished career that he's had, these are very serious allegations."

Mr. Amendola said Mr. Sandusky has been aware of the allegations for about three years and has maintained his innocence.

Attorney General Linda Kelly called Mr. Sandusky "a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys."

The grand jury said eight boys who were targets of sexual advances or assaults by Mr. Sandusky from 1994 to 2009. None were named, and in at least one case, the jury said the child's identity remains unknown to authorities.
 ::snipping2::The grand jury report accuses Messrs. Curley and Schultz of knowing some details of accusations of sex abuse against Mr. Sandusky but failing to tell authorities what they knew.

"It is also a case about high-ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention, and later made false statements to a grand jury," Ms. Kelly said.

Lawyers for both men issued statements saying they were innocent of all charges.

Prosecutors said all of the young men first encountered Mr. Sandusky through Second Mile.

The first to come to light was a boy who met Mr. Sandusky when he was 11 or 12, the grand jury said. The boy received expensive gifts and trips to sports events from Mr. Sandusky, and physical contact began during his overnight stays at Mr. Sandusky's home, jurors said. Eventually, the boy's mother reported the allegations of sexual assault to his high school, and Mr. Sandusky was banned from the child's school district in Clinton County in 2009. That triggered the state investigation that culminated in charges Saturday.

The grand jury report alleges much earlier instances of abuse, and efforts by some who knew of it to stop it, to no avail.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 07, 2011, 12:07:42 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-11-06/ex-coach-administrators-charged-at-penn-state/51101298/1
Penn State fallout leads two accused to leave jobs
November 7, 2011
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – The sexual abuse scandal involving a former Penn State football coach has cost a top administrator his job and put another on indefinite leave.

Athletics director Tim Curley is going on administrative leave at his request, according to a statement from the school board of trustees late Sunday. Senior vice president for business and finance Gary Schultz will step down and go back into retirement.
The two face charges they perjured themselves before a grand jury and failed to notify law enforcement authorities of child sexual abuse allegations against Jerry Sandusky, the one-time presumed successor to legendary coach Joe Paterno. Curley and Schultz are expected to turn themselves in to law enforcement in Harrisburg today. The move follows an emergency meeting of the trustees.
Also Sunday, Facebook page "Fire Graham Spanier" began as the specter of the scandal grew. On Saturday, Spanier had issued a statement offering strong support for Curley and Schultz.
But included in the release from the board of trustees was a statement from Spanier: "The protection of children is of paramount importance. The University will take a number of actions moving forward to increase the safety and security within our facilities and make everyone aware of the protocols in place for handling these issues."
Spanier also said that senior associate AD Mark Sherburne will serve as interim AD until Curley's legal situation is resolved.
Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers said the school would pay legal fees for Curley and Schultz because they were acting as employees. Sandusky was banned from campus.
In a scandal that has rocked the university and its No. 12-ranked football program, Sandusky, 67, faces 40 abuse charges, including 21 felonies. Sandusky, released on $100,000 bail, is charged with abusing eight boys between 1994 and 2009, with some incidents said to have taken place in a Penn State athletics building. He retired from Paterno's staff in 1999.
The grand jury investigation found Sandusky had encountered each of the alleged victims through a youth services foundation he began in 1977 called The Second Mile. "Like the rest of the community, I'm in a state of shock," longtime Penn State broadcaster Fran Fisher said.
Attorneys for all three say they are innocent.
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In a statement released Sunday, Paterno said, "The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true, we were all fooled."
Board of trustees chair Steve Garban said the school would take several steps to address the issue:
•The chair of the board will appoint a task force to engage external legal counsel to conduct an independent review of the University's policies and procedures related to the protection of children. This action is not intended to interfere with the ongoing judicial process;
•Publicize the findings of the independent review;
•Review with administrators police reporting protocols; and
•Enhance educational programming around such topics.
"The board, along with the entire Penn State family, is shocked and saddened by the allegations involving former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky," said Garban. "Under no circumstances does the University tolerate behavior that would put children at risk, and we are deeply troubled."
Video at link.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 07, 2011, 02:00:38 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57319610/sandusky-probe-penn-st-officials-face-charges/
Sandusky probe: Penn St. officials face charges
November 7, 2011

CBS/AP)  Two high-ranking Penn State administrators have resigned, and will face arraignment Monday on charges they lied to a grand jury investigating suspected child abuse involving the university's former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.
Athletic director Tim Curley and university vice president Gary Schultz will be arraigned in District Court in Harrisburg today for charges of perjury and failure to report under Pennsylvania's child protective services law, reports CBS News correspondent Michelle Miller. The university's board of trustees announced their resignations overnight, as officials try to deal with allegations against a trusted coach that could blemish Happy Valley's storied history.
 ::snipping2::In a 40-count indictment, Sandusky is accused of targeting eight boys over a period of 15 years - both before and after his retirement in 1999. The charges range from inappropriate touching to statutory rape.

Sandusky's attorney, Joe Amendola, said his client has been aware of the accusations for about three years and has maintained his innocence.
According to the indictment, several of the alleged crimes took place on campus, in the Lasch Football Building. In the spring of 2002, a graduate assistant reported he witnessed Sandusky sodomizing a young boy in the shower. He later testified that he told coach Joe Paterno the very next day."

Prosecutors say Paterno alerted athletic director Tim Curley. Curley called in Gary Schultz, the university's senior vice president for finance and business. A week and a half later, both met with the graduate assistant, but never contacted police.

Late Sunday, Curley and Schultz resigned. Curley requested to be placed on administrative leave so he could devote time to his defense, and Schultz will be going back into retirement, university President Graham Spanier said.

Both men have maintained they are innocent of any wrongdoing.

Joe Paterno issued a statement clarifying his grand jury testimony, saying, "It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions."

At this point, prosecutors say coach Paterno is a witness and not under investigation. Nils Frederiksen, a spokesman for the state attorney general's office, told The Associated Press on Sunday that whether Paterno might testify was premature and nothing more than rampant speculation.

"That's putting the cart way ahead of the horse," he said. "We're certainly not going to be discussing the lineup of potential witnesses."

As for Sandusky, the university has banned him from the campus. He is out on $100,000 bail, but faces charges that could put him in prison for life.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 07, 2011, 05:46:40 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/ncaafootball/penn-states-paterno-is-not-a-target-in-sexual-abuse-inquiry.html
Paterno Is Not a Target in Sexual Abuse Inquiry
November 7, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — The Pennsylvania attorney general, Linda Kelly, said in a news conference Monday that Joe Paterno, Penn State’s legendary football coach, was not considered a target in the sexual abuse investigation that has resulted in the arrest of a former assistant coach and two prominent university officials.
Kelly, who made a plea for other potential victims to come forward, summarized the prosecutors’ case against Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State defensive coordinator who faces a 40-count indictment for allegedly sexually abusing eight young boys. Through his lawyer, Sandusky has maintained his innocence.

She added that the roles played by Penn State administrators Tim Curley, the athletic director, and Gary Schultz, the vice president of business and finance who oversaw the university police, were “equally significant.” Curley and Schultz, who both stepped down late Sunday, were arraigned Monday in Harrisburg, Pa., for charges that include providing false testimony to a grand jury and failing to report suspected child abuse.

Kelly chided them for not coming forth with the information about an alleged incident with Sandusky in the Penn State locker room showers in 2002.

“Those officials and administrators to whom it was reported did not report that incident to law enforcement or to any child protective agency,” she said. “Their inaction, likely, allowed a child predator to continue to victimize children for many, many years.”

Curley and Schultz have denied any wrongdoing.

Kelly said Paterno had cooperated with investigators and fulfilled his legal obligation to pass the information to a superior when, in 2002, a graduate assistant told him about an incident involving Sandusky that he had witnessed in the locker room showers.

According to prosecutors, the first serious chance Penn State had to halt the abuse came in 1998, when Sandusky was still an assistant for Paterno. A mother of an 11-year-old boy Sandusky had befriended at his charity reported to the Penn State campus police that her son had been touched and held by Sandusky in a shower inside the campus’s football facility.

Prosecutors said a “lengthy” investigation — one that grew to include allegations about a second young child being similarly touched by Sandusky in a shower — was carried out by the campus police. But the report offers few details about the nature of that investigation: who was interviewed, whether Paterno or other university officials were apprised of it.

When asked whether Paterno or the university president, Graham B. Spanier, was aware in 1998 of the investigation, Kelly said, “All I can say was that investigation was handled by Penn State University’s police department.”

Paterno’s son Scott said in a telephone interview Sunday that Paterno had not been aware of the 1998 investigation.

Frank Noonan, the former chief of criminal investigations at the attorney general’s office and current commissioner of the state police, said the methods that Sandusky allegedly used were “very common” in these types of investigations. He said it was known as “grooming” victims, and said that the tactic involves someone identifying a child, becoming a mentor, giving the victim gifts and establishing trust.

He added that what was unusual about this investigation is that even after Sandusky “made admissions about inappropriate contact in the shower room” in 1998 to the Penn State police: “Nothing happened. Nothing stopped.”

He said that janitors witnessed a sex act in 2000 and still “nothing changed, nothing stopped” as the janitors did not report it because they feared for their jobs. And finally in 2002 when another sex act was witnessed by a Penn State graduate assistant coach, who reported it to Paterno, the police still were not contacted.

“That’s very unusual,” Noonan said. “I don’t think I’ve ever been associated with a case where that type of eye witness identification of sex acts taking place where the police weren’t called. I don’t think I’ve ever seen something like that before.”

Noonan added that the focus of the case should not be Penn State or football, but rather how Sandusky was not stopped from using the university to help groom young victims, according to the prosecutors’ report.


“This is not a case about football,” Noonan said. “This is not a case about universities. This is a case about children who have had their innocence stolen from them and a culture that did nothing to stop it or prevent it from happening to others.”

Curley is taking an administrative leave to defend himself against perjury charges, and Schultz will retire. Their decisions came during an executive session Sunday night involving Spanier and members of the university’s board of trustees.

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“The board, along with the entire Penn State family, is shocked and saddened by the allegations involving former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky,” Steve Garban, the chairman of the board of trustees, said in a statement. “Under no circumstances does the university tolerate behavior that would put children at risk, and we are deeply troubled.”

The move was accompanied by the announcement that the university would appoint a task force to appoint external legal counsel to conduct an independent review of the university’s policies and procedures related to the protection of children, and to publicize the findings.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: wreck on November 07, 2011, 08:19:16 PM
I agree with Frijole on the football thread............................this makes every other problem with "institutional control" by the Ohio State's et al seem rather trivial!! This wasn't a mere case of sweeping things under the rug -- they FAILED to stop it from continuing happening AFTER they knew about it. Utterly disgusting! ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 07, 2011, 10:16:49 PM
I agree with Frijole on the football thread............................this makes every other problem with "institutional control" by the Ohio State's et al seem rather trivial!! This wasn't a mere case of sweeping things under the rug -- they FAILED to stop it from continuing happening AFTER they knew about it. Utterly disgusting! ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

"Utterly disgusting" is right, wreck!!


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nonesuche on November 07, 2011, 10:32:27 PM
Beyond horrifying.........simply no excuse for Joe Pa and the university not to have accepted the word of the grad assistant witness........obviously the janitors knew that nothing would be done. Those poor boys !


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 08, 2011, 09:36:22 AM
This is an excellent article!  I agree with it all 100%!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/joe-paterno-penn-state-football-coach-center-unholy-mess-article-1.974071
Joe Paterno, Penn State football coach, at center of an unholy mess
School administration had moral obligation to do more about Jerry Sandusky

November 8, 2011


It was not a priest with a boy in the dark rooms of a church this time, it was the church of football at Penn State University, and a coach who once coached there for the great Joe Paterno alleged to be the sexual predator.

Now all of them at Penn State touched by this hideous story — touched by it the way this former coach, Jerry Sandusky, is alleged to have touched young boys in his care — try to protect themselves, when clearly not enough was ever done to protect these boys.

If these charges against Sandusky are true, then shame on all those who were told about Sandusky at Penn State and expected somebody else to do something about him.

If the government can make its case against Sandusky — once Paterno’s top football sergeant, and so a priest of football at Penn State — then nobody involved should survive this, starting with a coach who came out of Brooklyn Prep nearly 70 years ago to make his name one of the most famous and respected in the history of his sport.

Of course Paterno,
now 84, will get a chance to tell his side. For now he only speaks through a statement issued by his son. But if Joe Paterno was another one at Penn State who didn’t go right at Sandusky and right to the cops when informed of what an eyewitness saw Sandusky doing with a boy in a football shower room, then Paterno should step down and so should the president of the university, whether they are facing charges or not.

They are no better than high clerics who did not do enough, or nothing at all, when informed of priests in the church forcing themselves on young boys.

We keep hearing that everybody at Penn State followed the letter of the law when a graduate assistant named Mike McQueary, now on Paterno’s staff, went to Paterno in 2002 and said he saw Sandusky with a 10-year-old boy in the shower room.

But what about the spirit of the law?

If McQueary, a former football player, saw Sandusky having sex with a 10-year-old in a shower at the Lasch Football Building at Penn State, forget about running to the head football coach. How about throwing Sandusky up against the wall and banging him around a little bit, then calling the police?

Were they worried about chain of command at Penn State, or these children?

How about Paterno calling the police instead of his athletic director as soon as McQueary told him about the horror of what he’d seen? Now the coach says this about what McQueary told him nine years ago:

“It was obvious the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the grand jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky.”

As though we are supposed to care whether McQueary told Paterno that Sandusky was having sex with the boy or just fondling him.

Maybe Paterno and McQueary can eventually explain why, years after McQueary reported to Paterno that he’d seen Sandusky with a 10-year-old boy, they did absolutely nothing when Sandusky showed up at football practice with another young boy. Where did they think Sandusky was going to take that boy after football practice, to the zoo?
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 08, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
Looks like Joe Paterno and PSU might be in deep doo-doo. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57320637/report-paterno-to-leave-psu-in-wake-of-scandal/
Report: Paterno to leave PSU in wake of scandal
November 8, 2011

(CBS/AP)  Joe Paterno's 46th season as Penn State's football coach may be his last.
The New York Times reports that the Penn State board of trustees is planning Paterno's exit from the school in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal involving former defensive coach Jerry Sandusky, according to two people familiar with the university's internal discussions.
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In addition, a high-ranking Penn State official told the AP that support for Paterno is eroding among the school's board of trustees.

Despite the reports, Scott Paterno told reporters that his father has had no talks with Penn State officials or trustees about stepping down. He told reporters outside his father's house Tuesday that Joe Paterno plans to not only coach in Saturday's game against Nebraska, but for the long haul.

"No one has asked Joe to resign," Scott Paterno told The AP in a text message.

Meanwhile, Penn State administrators canceled Paterno's weekly news conference, in which he was expected to field questions about the scandal.

"Due to the ongoing legal circumstances centered around the recent allegations and charges, we have determined that today's press conference cannot be held and will not be rescheduled," assistant Athletic Director Jeff Nelson said in a statement.

Scott Paterno told The AP that the decision was made by President Graham Spanier's office.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 08, 2011, 11:20:10 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-11-06/ex-coach-administrators-charged-at-penn-state/51101298/1
Penn State fallout leads two accused to leave jobs
November 7, 2011
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – The sexual abuse scandal involving a former Penn State football coach has cost a top administrator his job and put another on indefinite leave.

Athletics director Tim Curley is going on administrative leave at his request, according to a statement from the school board of trustees late Sunday. Senior vice president for business and finance Gary Schultz will step down and go back into retirement.
The two face charges they perjured themselves before a grand jury and failed to notify law enforcement authorities of child sexual abuse allegations against Jerry Sandusky, the one-time presumed successor to legendary coach Joe Paterno. Curley and Schultz are expected to turn themselves in to law enforcement in Harrisburg today. The move follows an emergency meeting of the trustees.
Also Sunday, Facebook page "Fire Graham Spanier" began as the specter of the scandal grew. On Saturday, Spanier had issued a statement offering strong support for Curley and Schultz.
But included in the release from the board of trustees was a statement from Spanier: "The protection of children is of paramount importance. The University will take a number of actions moving forward to increase the safety and security within our facilities and make everyone aware of the protocols in place for handling these issues."
Spanier also said that senior associate AD Mark Sherburne will serve as interim AD until Curley's legal situation is resolved.
Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers said the school would pay legal fees for Curley and Schultz because they were acting as employees. Sandusky was banned from campus.
In a scandal that has rocked the university and its No. 12-ranked football program, Sandusky, 67, faces 40 abuse charges, including 21 felonies. Sandusky, released on $100,000 bail, is charged with abusing eight boys between 1994 and 2009, with some incidents said to have taken place in a Penn State athletics building. He retired from Paterno's staff in 1999.
The grand jury investigation found Sandusky had encountered each of the alleged victims through a youth services foundation he began in 1977 called The Second Mile. "Like the rest of the community, I'm in a state of shock," longtime Penn State broadcaster Fran Fisher said.
Attorneys for all three say they are innocent.
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In a statement released Sunday, Paterno said, "The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true, we were all fooled."Board of trustees chair Steve Garban said the school would take several steps to address the issue:
•The chair of the board will appoint a task force to engage external legal counsel to conduct an independent review of the University's policies and procedures related to the protection of children. This action is not intended to interfere with the ongoing judicial process;
•Publicize the findings of the independent review;
•Review with administrators police reporting protocols; and
•Enhance educational programming around such topics.
"The board, along with the entire Penn State family, is shocked and saddened by the allegations involving former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky," said Garban. "Under no circumstances does the University tolerate behavior that would put children at risk, and we are deeply troubled."
Video at link.

Gotta say I have lost all faith in Joe PA after this..and particularily this remark.  He knew about this long ago, his reaction was to tell the person who told him to let the university know..and then no one followed up..and yes JoePa ..you knew know one followed up because you continued to work with this man on a daily basis..if had been arrested or questioned you would have known..so you knew it was not covered up..it was handled.

JoePa needs to step down..he is as much to blame as anyone else that let this man continue to work for PSU and use their facilities and charity work to sexually abuse young men.  The university carried more about their reputation and their sports teams national glory then about doing the right thing and turning this over to the State Police.  JoePa how would have you reacted if that 10 year old being sodomized in the shower would have been your grandson?  JoePa when a graduate assistant came to you and told you he had witnessed the sodomy..why didn't you report it to the authorities?

My husband is a PSU grad...we aren't making anymore contributions to this school until someone comes clean..one can only imagine the other crimes that went on that were never reported..just handled..if sodomy of a 10 year old in the PSU  tem showers doesn't count I am sure the rape of many girls, the beatings of many individuals just didn't count either.  They over paid all of you..you are worthless..not worth the time to write this actually..I hope PSU fires all of them and they lose any pensions they might have.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 08, 2011, 11:23:36 PM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/local_sports/exclusive%3A-victims-double-in-penn-state-case-110811
Exclusive: Victims Double In Penn State Case
PSU Trustees Hold Tuesday Night Teleconference

November 8, 2011

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Sources tell FOX 29 News that, since a press conference on Monday, the number of potential victims has more than doubled in the case.

We've learned there may be as many as 17 accusers coming forward against one-time Penn State University defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.
State officials publicized two phone numbers for potential victims to call, and within a day it seems investigators have new leads.

There are eight victims listed in the grand jury presentment, and 40 charges have been leveled against Sandusky, a long-time assistant to Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno.

Sandusky allegedly met the boys through The Second Mile, a charity he founded in the late 1970s.

Paterno was not named in the grand jury finding as violating any laws, and authorities have said he is not a target of the investigation.

Students rallied Tuesday night in support of Paterno, but we heard that university trustees were huddling up, too.

FOX 29's Bruce Gordon reported that university trustees met via teleconference Tuesday night. We don't yet know the specifics of that meeting, but it's a safe bet that Paterno's name came up.
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A loud and raucous rally in support of Paterno was wrapping up around 10 p.m. outside Beaver Stadium, right across the street from the JoePa statue.

The rally grew out of social media and began outside Paterno's off-campus home as he returned home from afternoon practice.

Paterno was clearly overcome with emotion.

"It's hard for me to tell you how much this means to me. All right? You guys, I've lived for this place, I've lived for people like you guys and girls, and I'm just so happy to see that the, you know, that you feel so strongly about us and about your school."

Mindful that the show of support was turning into a pep rally, Paterno asked the students to keep the young victims of this sex scandal in their prayers.

"Tough life when people do certain things to you. But, anyway, you guys have been great," Paterno said.

Earlier in the day, the university abruptly pulled the plug on a planned news conference.

Behind the scene, there's every indication that trustees are moving to oust Paterno over his failure to act more aggressively to stop the growing sex scandal.

Paterno spoke briefly with reporters earlier Tuesday, saying, "I know you guys have a lot of questions, and I was hoping I was going to be able to answer them today. But we'll try to do it soon, as soon as we can. I can't do it today."
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The New York Times reported that two sources told it that Penn State officials were negotiating Paterno's exit, perhaps within days, in the wake of the Sandusky sex scandal.

Scott Paterno called that report "fiction."

He said, "Any discussion of exit strategy has not taken place with anyone that is advising Joe or Joe himself. That's all I can tell you. There has been no discussion between the university and Coach Paterno. Nothing has changed."

Outside his home Tuesday night, the coach led cheers of "We are," and students replied "Penn State."

"And we'll always be," the octogenarian coach added.

"Penn State," students answered twice.

As he retreated inside his home, cheering students vowed to stand by their beleaguered hero.
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Paterno was not the only one under fire Tuesday night. University President Graham Spanier is also facing a lot of criticism over his handling of this child sex abuse scandal.

It's a safe bet both of those names will be on the agenda when the board of trustees meet face-to-face in public session Friday. Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett says he will be there.


Jerry Sandusky was supposed to have a preliminary hearing Wednesday on dozens of child sex abuse charges.

However, on Tuesday afternoon court officials decided to push that back until Dec. 7.


Sandusky is currently free on $100,000 bail.

The other two men charged, former athletic director Tim Curley and senior vice president Gary Schultz, will appear in court next week on charges of failing to notify authorities about the allegations against Sandusky and lying to a grand jury.

Meanwhile, Congressman Pat Meehan is calling for a federal investigation into how Penn State handled the allegations against Sandusky.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 09, 2011, 08:44:51 AM
How could grown men allow this to continue?  I mean really.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 09, 2011, 08:50:01 AM
How could grown men allow this to continue?  I mean really.

ITA Kitty Mom...because they thought the football program at PSU as more important then the harm this man was doing to young boys?  That's the only answer I can come up with..and they had to know that nothing happened to the man..he continued to work there, then after retiring used their gym and facilities..if he had been questioned they would have known..as it is they all did nothing to stop this sexual abuse..they all deserve to be ousted ..they could have called the State Police once they saw the university was doing nothing..and the State Police would have followed up..


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 09, 2011, 09:03:11 AM
Some kind of charges should be filed on McQueary the grad asst. too. Sickening that he could see into the shower and just walk away. It was not out of fear for his safety, he's a vey big guy. No upon seeing a child being raped he worries about his job. Sanduskyshead should have immediately been slam into the wall. I'd like to see them fire me for that.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 09, 2011, 09:23:22 AM
Some kind of charges should be filed on McQueary the grad asst. too. Sickening that he could see into the shower and just walk away. It was not out of fear for his safety, he's a vey big guy. No upon seeing a child being raped he worries about his job. Sanduskyshead should have immediately been slam into the wall. I'd like to see them fire me for that.


It's just sickening.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 09, 2011, 11:00:37 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/08/penn-state-officials-reportedly-planning-paternos-exit/

Penn State's Paterno Will Reportedly Retire at End of Season

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/11/08/penn-state-officials-reportedly-planning-paternos-exit/#ixzz1dDxz5cnf


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 09, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
http://www.wpxi.com/news/29715888/detail.html

DA Who Refused To Prosecute Sandusky In '98 Missing Since '05

Quote
Channel 11 News is looking into the disappearance of the district attorney who chose not to prosecute former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky more than a decade ago.

Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005. Gricar’s car and laptop were found along the Susquehanna River, but police have yet to find the former district attorney.
In 1998, Gricar made the decision not to file charges against Sandusky after a mother told university police Sandusky had inappropriate contact with her 11-year-old son.

 

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This can't be a coincidence.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: sailcat on November 09, 2011, 11:24:30 AM
http://www.wpxi.com/news/29715888/detail.html

DA Who Refused To Prosecute Sandusky In '98 Missing Since '05

Quote
Channel 11 News is looking into the disappearance of the district attorney who chose not to prosecute former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky more than a decade ago.

Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005. Gricar’s car and laptop were found along the Susquehanna River, but police have yet to find the former district attorney.
In 1998, Gricar made the decision not to file charges against Sandusky after a mother told university police Sandusky had inappropriate contact with her 11-year-old son.

 

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This can't be a coincidence.   ::MonkeyEek::

Holy cow!


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: cadillac on November 09, 2011, 11:30:07 AM
http://www.wpxi.com/news/29715888/detail.html

DA Who Refused To Prosecute Sandusky In '98 Missing Since '05

Quote
Channel 11 News is looking into the disappearance of the district attorney who chose not to prosecute former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky more than a decade ago.

Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005. Gricar’s car and laptop were found along the Susquehanna River, but police have yet to find the former district attorney.
In 1998, Gricar made the decision not to file charges against Sandusky after a mother told university police Sandusky had inappropriate contact with her 11-year-old son.

 

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This can't be a coincidence.   ::MonkeyEek::
Oh - this river runs deeeeep.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 09, 2011, 11:38:48 AM
http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/05/2975854/conflict-what-conflict.html

Conflict? What Conflict?

What in the world is going on?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 09, 2011, 12:06:28 PM
Follow the money.  There's big money in college ball.  JMHO


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 09, 2011, 01:35:35 PM
Report: Penn State President Graham Spanier will resign or be fired
Associated Press

Posted: 1:09pm on Nov 9, 2011; Modified: 1:25pm on Nov 9, 2011


The Express-Times of Easton reported Wednesday (http://bit.ly/snIMNH ) that a person close to the university board of trustees said Spanier will either resign or be voted out by trustees by the end of the day.
The newspaper didn’t identify the person, who it said requested anonymity.

Citing the unidentified person, it reported that an interim president, most likely Rodney Erickson, the university’s executive vice president and provost, would be appointed and a search for a permanent replacement would begin.

When asked to confirm or deny the report, Bill Mahon, Penn State spokesman, said he could not.

Information from: The Express-Times, http://www.lehighvalleylive.com


Read more: http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/09/2980063/report-penn-state-president-spanier.html#ixzz1dEafzMwT


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 09, 2011, 02:55:21 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandusky-wrapped-in-2005-gricar-mystery.html
Questions on Sandusky Are Wrapped in a 2005 Mystery
November 8, 2011

One of the questions surrounding the sex-abuse case against Jerry Sandusky is why a former district attorney chose not to prosecute the then-Penn State assistant coach in 1998 after reports surfaced that he had inappropriate interactions with a boy.
The answer is unknowable because of an unsolved mystery: What happened to Ray Gricar, the Centre County, Pa., district attorney?

Gricar went missing in April 2005. The murky circumstances surrounding his disappearance — an abandoned car, a laptop recovered months later in a river without a hard drive, his body was never found — have spawned Web sites, television programs and conspiracy theories. More than six years later, the police still receive tips and reports of sightings. The police in central Pennsylvania continue to investigate even though Gricar’s daughter, Lara, successfully petitioned in July to have her father declared legally dead so the family could find some closure and begin dividing his estate.

Yet as the Sandusky investigation moves forward, questions will be asked anew about why Gricar did not pursue charges against him 13 years ago. A small but strident minority believes Gricar did not want to tackle a case that involved a hometown icon. Others who knew and worked with Gricar say he was a meticulous, independent and tough-minded prosecutor who was unbowed by Penn State, its football program and political pressure in general.

“No one got a bye with Ray,” said Anthony De Boef, who worked as an assistant district attorney under Gricar for five years. “He didn’t care who you were; he had a job to do.”

De Boef said Gricar did not share any information with him about the case in 1998, which involved Sandusky allegedly showering with an 11-year-old boy. Gricar, he said, reviewed the police reports in private including, presumably, notes or recordings of two conversations that the police heard between Sandusky and the boy’s mother. But Gricar had a reputation for thoroughness, and if he thought he had enough to charge Sandusky, he would have, De Boef and other lawyers said.
 ::snipping2::
On April 15, 2005, Gricar, then 59, took the day off. At about 11:30 a.m., he called his girlfriend, Patricia Fornicola, to say he was taking a drive on Route 192. About 12 hours later, she reported him missing.

The next day, Gricar’s Mini Cooper was found in a parking lot in Lewisburg, about 50 miles from his home in Bellefonte. Gricar’s cellphone was in the car, but not his laptop, wallet or keys, which were never recovered. Months later, the laptop was found in the Susquehanna River without its hard drive, which was discovered later. It was too damaged to yield any information. On the fourth anniversary of his disappearance, investigators revealed that a search of his home computer yielded a history of Internet searches for phrases like “how to wreck a hard drive,” according to a report at the time in The Centre Daily Times.

When Gricar disappeared helicopters, dive teams and patrol cars were deployed, and the F.B.I. was brought in. Reports of Gricar turning up in Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Maryland and other states proved to be dead ends.

So what happened? Friends and colleagues say Gricar was not the type to walk away. His bank accounts were not touched after he disappeared, he had no other sources of income and he had no major debts, said Robert Buehner Jr., a friend and the district attorney in Montour County. Though divorced twice, he seemed happy with his girlfriend and close with his daughter. Gricar had already announced that he was retiring at the end of his term.
 ::snipping2::
If Gricar committed suicide, Buehner added, he would have wanted the body to be found. Foul play is the next possible conclusion. By the nature of their jobs prosecuting criminals, district attorneys end up having many enemies. But no credible suspects have emerged.

“I don’t think you’ll find too many district attorneys who disappear,” said Ken Mains, a detective who works on cold cases in Lycoming County. “D. B. Cooper, Amelia Earhart, Jimmy Hoffa, until a body is found, there are going to be conspiracy theories.”


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 09, 2011, 03:30:19 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57321248/cops-sandusky-admitted-to-98-shower-with-boy/?tag=pop;stories
Cops: Sandusky admitted to '98 shower with boy
November 9, 2011

CBS/AP)

Jerry Sandusky, the one-time heir apparent to Penn State football coach Joe Paterno, told a boy's mother in 1998 that he had showered with her son and with other boys but he wouldn't promise to stop, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury report.

Police in State College, Penn., listened in to two conversations Sandusky had with the mother, with her permission, after her then-11-year-old son came home with hair wet from showing with Sandusky. At the end of the second conversation, Sandusky was told he could not see the boy anymore.

"I understand," State College Detective Ronald Schreffler testified Sandusky said. "I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from you. I wish I were dead."
Sandusky — who maintains he is innocent — has since been charged with 40 criminal counts, accusing him of molesting eight young boys between 1994 and 2009. Two PSU administrators who have since stepped aside have also been charged with failing to notify authorities of a 2002 incident reported by an eyewitness.
The 11-year-old was only identified as the former assistant football coach's sixth alleged victim. In 1998, his mother tried to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again, but he wouldn't make that promise, Schreffler testified.

Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testified to the grand jury Sandusky admitted to him and Schreffler in an interview that he hugged the boy while naked in the shower and that he knew it was wrong.

However, the case was closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decided there would be no criminal charges filed.

Late Tuesday night, Penn State's board of trustees said it would appoint a special committee to conduct an investigation into the "circumstances" that resulted in the indictments of Sandusky, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz. The committee will be appointed Friday at the board's regular meeting, which Gov. Tom Corbett said he plans to attend, and will examine "what failures occurred and who is responsible and what measures are necessary to ensure" similar mistakes aren't made in the future.

The board also promised those responsible would be held "fully accountable."

"We are committed to restoring public trust in the university," the board statement concluded.

Paterno is fighting for his job amid "eroding" support from the board and the widening sex-abuse scandal.

Paterno's regularly scheduled news conference was abruptly canceled Tuesday. A university spokesman cited "ongoing legal circumstances," a reference to the charges announced over the weekend.

At least a thousand students descended on the administration building about 11 p.m., EDT, chanting "Joe Paterno!" over and over, along with Penn State cheers. Many held up their smartphones to take photos or simply light up the night. A few young men climbed flag poles.

About 10 police officers stood on the steps of the building, guarding it.

Paterno's son, Scott, said his father was disappointed over the decision by PSU President Graham Spanier to cancel the news conference. Addressing reporters outside his parents' house, Scott said Joe was prepared to answer questions about Sandusky and further that his father plans to coach not only Saturday's game against Nebraska, but for the long haul.

Hundreds of fans staged a raucous rally outside Paterno's home. He appeared briefly, along with some family members, and thanked the crowd for coming.

"It's hard for me to say how much this means," the 84-year-old coach said. "I've lived for this place. I've lived for people like you guys and girls."

Asked if he was still the coach, Paterno didn't answer but a young woman who stood with her arm around him replied: "Now is not the time."

As he returned to his house, Paterno stopped and pumped his fists above his head, yelling, "We are ..."

"Penn State!" the crowd replied.

"We're always going to be Penn State," Paterno said. "I'm proud of you. I've always been proud of you. Beat Nebraska."

At an afternoon practice, managers hastily put plywood boards over an exposed fence to block photographers' view of the field.

Paterno, who earns about $1 million annually from the school, has been head coach for 46 years and part of the Penn State staff for more than six decades, and his old-school values pervade every corner of the program.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 09, 2011, 09:39:14 PM
Well, I don't think Joe Paterno resigning at the end of the season is enough.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  I'm became familiar with the Clery Act, because of some things that happened at a university in Texas.  They got under the wire however, because of the way they classified some of the crimes on campus.  But what happened there is miniscule compared to Penn State's stuff right now. 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/joe-paterno-penn-state-president-graham-spanier-sex/story?id=14913848#.Trsz8nJZrwI
Feds to Probe Penn State Sex Abuse Scandal: Joe Paterno and University President Graham Spanier Ousted
November 9, 2011

The U.S. Department of Education is launching an investigation into whether Penn State University officials mishandled the sexual abuse allegations that have rocked the university and are forcing out football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier.

Officials are checking to see if the university failed to comply with the Jeanne Clery Disclosure of Campus Security Policy and Campus Crime Statistics Act (the Clery Act), which requires colleges to disclose reported criminal offenses on campus.

"If these allegations of sexual abuse are true, then this is a horrible tragedy for those young boys," Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a news release. "If it turns out that some people at the school knew of the abuse and did nothing or covered it up, that makes it even worse. Schools and school officials have a legal and moral responsibility to protect children and young people from violence and abuse."

Paterno released a statement today saying he was "absolutely devastated" by the scandal and would retire at the end of the season.

ABC News has learned that Spanier will be ousted from his position today, according to Penn State sources. The Board of Trustees will have a closed door meeting at 7 p.m.

Spanier apparently has submitted a letter or resignation and the board only needs to accept it, a source told ABC News' Lauren Pearle.


The turmoil follows the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, charged with abusing at least eight boys over 15 years.

Athletic director Tim Curly and Vice President for Finance Gary Shultz were charged Tuesday with not reporting the sexual abuse to police and lying to a grand jury under oath during the investigation.

Paterno and Spanier have come under intense pressure this because they were also told of at least one incident, but did not alert police.

 ::snipping2::

Paterno, who has coached the team for 46 years and is the winningest coach in top level college football ever, said it has been his intention to "serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care."

"That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can," Paterno said.

The coach had a closed meeting with his team and coaching staff this morning where he reportedly broke down in tears while telling them he was leaving, according to the Associated Press. Players, also choking back tears, gave him a standing ovation as he walked out of the gym, the report said.
 ::snipping2::
Sandusky was arrested Saturday and charged with molesting eight boys over 15 years, all of whom he met through his charitable organization, The Second Mile, a group home and outreach program for troubled boys.

The charges stem from a March 2002, incident in which graduate assistant coach Mike McQueary allegedly saw Sandusky sexually assaulting a boy in a locker room shower in the Penn State football department. McQueary told Paterno what he saw, and Paterno in turn told Curly and Shultz. None of the men reported the incident to police.

The Pennsylvania attorney general said Monday that Curly and Shultz were legally required to alert police to the incident, while Paterno was only legally obligated to tell his superiors. But Paterno has come under fire for failing what police called a "moral obligation" to alert them to the crimes.
Penn State Sex Scandal Grows

Pressure has also increased on Spanier because Curly and Shultz reported to Spanier that there had been an inappropriate incident with Sandusky and a child in the locker room showers, and that they had taken away Sandusky's privilege of bringing children onto campus. Spanier approved the decision and never reported the Sandusky incident to police.

Sandusky allegedly molested some of the children that he brought to the Penn State campus to meet the team members and work out at the facilities. He also brought them along on trips to away games and plied them with gifts, according to the presentment.

Two earlier sexual assaults on campus had been brought to the attention of employees and administrators, neither of which were reported to the police, according to the attorney general. In 1998 two boys reportedly came forward to say Sandusky had fondled them in the team's showers. Campus police had eavesdropped on a conversation between Sandusky and one boy's mother. That mother recently described the exchange to local reporter Sara Ganim with the Patriot News.

"He admitted to taking the shower, he admitted to some extent something bad happened," the woman, who was not identified, said. "He asked her for forgiveness. He said 'I probably won't get it from you,' and then he said 'I wish I were dead.'"

The mother said that she was proud of her son, who had the courage stand up to one of the giants of college football, according to Ganim. The boy's allegation led to the three-year grand jury investigation that resulted in sexual assault charges.

Sandusky was a coach and defensive coordinator for the team for 23 years before retiring in 1999. After his retirement, he continued to have unlimited access to the football department and campus, and continued to run football camps for boys at Penn State's campuses.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 09, 2011, 09:51:53 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57321624-504083/penn-state-sex-scandal-is-like-being-sucker-punched-says-former-player-brandon-noble/?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.5
Penn State sex scandal is "like being sucker-punched," says former player Brandon Noble
November 9, 2011

(CBS) Former Penn State defensive lineman Brandon Noble was in Bermuda when he got a text from a former teammate about the unfolding sex abuse scandal involving his old coach, Jerry Sandusky.

"It was like being sucker-punched," says Noble. "The whole football program at Penn State was based on accountability, responsibility, doing the right thing. That's what Jerry preached - and that's what makes this so devastating."
Noble, who spent nine years in the NFL after leaving Penn State in 1998, is now the head football coach for West Chester University in Pennsylvania.
 ::snipping2::
According to an explosive grand jury report, Sandusky is accused of molesting eight boys over a period of 15 years, engaging in behavior ranging from inappropriate touching to sodomy. Some of the alleged incidents occurred on the Penn State campus, in gyms and locker rooms to which Sandusky had access.
According to the grand jury report, a then-graduate assistant witnessed Sandusky raping a boy in a shower in one of the Penn State athletic buildings on March 1, 2002. The graduate assistant, who is not named in the grand jury report but has subsequently been identified as Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary,  told the grand jury that he reported what he saw to head coach Joe Paterno, and that Paterno later reported the allegations to Athletic Director Tim Curly. The grand jury noted that they found McQueary's testimony "very credible."

A little over a week later, Curly called McQueary to a meeting with Gary Schultz, the university's senior vice president for finance and business.

What happened at the meeting is unclear. Curly denied to the grand jury that McQueary had told him of sodomy or "anything of a sexual nature" occurring: "He termed the conduct as merely 'horsing around,'" reported the grand jury.

Schultz was also apparently "unsure" what McQueary had reported, but testified that the allegations were "not that serious."

According to the report, Curly and Schultz - both of whom have been charged with perjury and failing to report a crime - told the graduate assistant they would "look into it."

But according to the report, neither even discussed alerting the police - even the University Police, which Schultz oversaw. Schultz did testify, however, that he reported the information from McQueary to University President Graham Spanier.

Noble - who read the report and calls it "disturbing" - says that this alleged cover-up is nearly as upsetting as Sandusky's alleged behavior.

"We want to know why this wasn't handled differently," he says, speaking for himself and the other former Penn State football players he's been communicating with non-stop since the story broke,
 ::snipping2::
Noble thinks Paterno did the right thing Tuesday when he told reporters, "I wish I had done more," but says "I want to hear that from the people up the food chain."

Paterno announced Wednesday that he will step down from his position at the end of the season.

"Being a father, if someone saw something like this happening to my child, I would hope someone would call the police or step in," says Noble.

Still, he admits that the culture of football teams - at Penn State and elsewhere - is often insular.

"Every football team I've been a part of protects its own," says Noble. "Football is a dysfunctional family. You all come from very different backgrounds and not everyone gets along, but you want to keep those problems inside."

Asked how he would respond if one of his players or team members came to him with allegations similar to those levied against Sandusky, Noble is brutally honest:

"I would love to believe that I would do the right thing," he says. "But it's easy for me, sitting here in my office, to say that, absolutely I would contact the authorities and confront the person. But you just don't know how you're going react."

Either way, Noble says that the former players he's been communicating with are "very disappointed in the way the Penn State administration handled this."
"We're circling the wagons, we're going to start to heal - but we're going to have to do it ourselves."

Step one: Noble plans to attend Saturday's football game at Penn State.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 09, 2011, 10:06:23 PM
This is a must read article.  Steve Kelley tells it like it is.  Also check out the poll and vote.  I don't mind sharing that my vote was "NO".
"Should Joe Paterno be allowed to continue as football coach at Penn State?" 
Yes or No? 

When I looked at the poll at 9:01 cst here's the score:
Should Joe Paterno be allowed to continue as football coach at Penn State?
Yes  26.6%  (572 votes) 
No  73.4%  (1,578 votes) 
Total Votes: 2,150

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/stevekelley/2016719319_kelley09.html?prmid=obinsite
Joe Paterno must speak up, then leave Penn State
Sex scandal will be football coach's legacy

Steve Kelley
Seattle Times staff columnist


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 09, 2011, 10:09:49 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_mccann/11/09/joe.paterno/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Did Joe Paterno break the law?

A long, but excellent article.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: seahorse on November 09, 2011, 10:59:22 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstate-abuse


PSU trustees fire Paterno, Spanier
By GENARO C. ARMAS, Associated Press
10 minutes ago



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One key question has been why Paterno and other top school officials didn’t go to police in 2002 after being told a graduate assistant saw Sandusky assaulting a boy in a school shower.

Paterno says he should have done more. Spanier has said he was not told the details of the attack.


 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 09, 2011, 11:52:09 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/09/penn-states-joe-paterno-said-will-retire-at-end-season/

Penn State Ousts University President, Paterno

All these men had to do was speak up for the kids.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2011, 02:14:26 AM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/10/2551315/penn-state-riots-protest-joe-paterno-fired-state-college
Penn State Riot: Students Protest, Clash With Police After Joe Paterno Fired
Students took to the streets in State College after Joe Paterno was fired on Wednesday night. Crowds were clashing with police as the protest got out of hand.
 ::snipping2::



http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214380/joe-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state
Updated: November 10, 2011, 1:26 AM ET
Joe Paterno, Graham Spanier out
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 07:19:30 AM
I'm merging this thread with one already started.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12322.msg1486825#new
Re: Former Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Charged with Sexually Abusing 8


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 07:30:41 AM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/10/2551315/penn-state-riots-protest-joe-paterno-fired-state-college
Penn State Riot: Students Protest, Clash With Police After Joe Paterno Fired
Students took to the streets in State College after Joe Paterno was fired on Wednesday night. Crowds were clashing with police as the protest got out of hand.
 ::snipping2::



http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214380/joe-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state
Updated: November 10, 2011, 1:26 AM ET
Joe Paterno, Graham Spanier out
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
 ::snipping2::





 ::MonkeyNoNo::  The students have their priorities all wrong.  They should be angry and outraged with Joe Paterno and etc. for what happened to the young boys and for the cover up that ensued.  Instead they are throwing tantrums that their precious foot ball coach who helped cover up is getting what was coming to him.  Penn State was right in firing Joe Paterno imo.  To allow him to retire at the end of the season wouldn't have shown accountability.  And I'm sure the board knew there would be a backlash when they fired Paterno. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2011, 08:25:04 AM
Follow the money.  There's big money in college ball.  JMHO
::rhino::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 08:32:46 AM
I can't believe that students are rioting.  How screwed up is there thinking that they value a freakin' sport over the lives of children.  That could've been one of them assaulted and then ignored.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2011, 08:37:34 AM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/10/2551315/penn-state-riots-protest-joe-paterno-fired-state-college
Penn State Riot: Students Protest, Clash With Police After Joe Paterno Fired
Students took to the streets in State College after Joe Paterno was fired on Wednesday night. Crowds were clashing with police as the protest got out of hand.
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214380/joe-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state
Updated: November 10, 2011, 1:26 AM ET
Joe Paterno, Graham Spanier out
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
 ::snipping2::





 ::MonkeyNoNo::  The students have their priorities all wrong.  They should be angry and outraged with Joe Paterno and etc. for what happened to the young boys and for the cover up that ensued.  Instead they are throwing tantrums that their precious foot ball coach who helped cover up is getting what was coming to him.  Penn State was right in firing Joe Paterno imo.  To allow him to retire at the end of the season wouldn't have shown accountability.  And I'm sure the board knew there would be a backlash when they fired Paterno. 
I agree 100%.
This is about children and their lives.Can you imagine what what kind of an impact seeing that display would do to you mentally as one of the victims?
While I was watching this during the night I heard someone say it really is unbelievable in reference to the coach.I call bull chit.It is unbelievable and a crying shame these children were treated in such a fashion.
There are so many kids out there hungry for love and attention,and this is not what they deserve.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am there was some firing going on.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 08:55:33 AM
What I can't believe is that these grown men interacted with Sandusky after knowing what he was doing.  Did they have him over for parties and bbq's around their own children and grandchild?  How did they stomach shaking his hand knowing that his hands had been violating innocent children?  I have no respect or sympathy for any of the men involved.  They should've grown a pair, beat his a$$ down, and then turned him in to authorities.

Now, I want to know of any connections these guys might have to Ray Gricar.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2011, 09:22:36 AM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/gricars_nephew_on_1998_sandusk.html
Former Centre County DA Ray Gricar's nephew on 1998 Jerry Sandusky case: 'Ray was beholden to no one'
Published: Wednesday, November 09, 2011, 7:07 PM     Updated: Wednesday, November 09, 2011, 7:34 PM

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"People ask why Ray did not prosecute, and I have no problem saying, because he clearly felt he didn't have a case for a 'successful' prosecution," Tony Gricar said. "... One thing I can say is that Ray was beholden to no one, was not a politician."

Gricar also said his uncle had developed "a bitter taste in his mouth for the program, and it's coach, and that was not much of a secret."

"So I wouldn't imagine he'd give favorable treatment to anyone associated with the team for any reason," he said.

In that 1998 case, Gricar had the mother of one boy confront Sandusky in her home while police hid in another room.

According to the grand jury report, Sandusky admitted to taking a naked shower and touching the boy, asked for forgiveness and said, "I wish I were dead."

About six weeks after the incident, police closed the case.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 09:34:48 AM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7212054/key-dates-penn-state-nittany-lions-sex-abuse-case

Sandusky, Penn State case timeline

Quote
1977
Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows to become a charity dedicated to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.

1994
Boy known as Victim 7 in the report meets Sandusky through The Second Mile program at about the age of 10.

1994-95
Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at a Second Mile picnic at Spring Creek Park when he is 7 or 8 years old.

1995-96
Boy known as Victim 5, meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is 7 or 8, in second or third grade.

1996-97
Boy known as Victim 4, at the age of 12 or 13, meets Sandusky while he is in his second year participating in The Second Mile program.

1996-98
Victim 5 is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old.

Jan. 1, 1998
Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl.

1998
Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university police, who investigate.

Dec. 28, 1999
Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.

Summer 2000
Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade.

Fall 2000
A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13.

Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a report. Victim 8's identity is unknown.

March 1, 2002
A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.

2005-2006
Boy known as Victim 1 says that he meets Sandusky through The Second Mile at age 11 or 12.

Spring 2007
During the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with Victim 1 weekly, having him stay overnight at his residence in College Township, Pa.

Spring 2008
Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.

Nov. 8, 2011
Possible ninth victim of Sandusky contacts state police as calls for ouster of Paterno and Spanier grow in state and beyond. Penn State abruptly cancels Paterno's regular weekly news conference.

How many other possible victims are there out there that won't come forward because of the chaos going on on campus?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Sister on November 10, 2011, 09:35:24 AM
I can't believe that students are rioting.  How screwed up is there thinking that they value a freakin' sport over the lives of children.  That could've been one of them assaulted and then ignored.
ITA


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 09:37:00 AM
I can't believe that students are rioting.  How screwed up is there thinking that they value a freakin' sport over the lives of children.  That could've been one of them assaulted and then ignored.
ITA

Absolutely.  ITA


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2011, 09:44:14 AM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/coach_tom_bradley_to_hold_pres.html
Penn State interim head coach Coach Tom Bradley to hold press conference today at 11 a.m.
Published: Thursday, November 10, 2011, 8:57 AM     Updated: Thursday, November 10, 2011, 9:06 AM

Tom Bradley, the newly appointed head football coach at Penn State, is holding a press conference Thursday at 11 a.m.

It will be the first opportunity for him to address his new job, Joe Paterno's firing, charges against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, and the game Saturday against Nebraska.

The university’s board of trustees appointed Bradley as interim head coach Wednesday night. It had just unanimously fired Paterno, just hours after the 84-year-old football coach announced he would retire at the end of the season. The board also forced out Spanier, the long-term university president, with another unanimous vote.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 10, 2011, 11:12:29 AM
Important to know this is just a rumor so far 
 
SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR: Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'


 

"
"I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."
http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-2011-11




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 11:36:03 AM
Important to know this is just a rumor so far 
 
SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR: Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'


 

"
"I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."
http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-2011-11






I hope this is only a rumor alagary, but it should definitely be looked into. 






Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 12:07:45 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20111110_PSU_disturbance_erupted_as_Paterno_appealled_for_calm.html
PSU disturbance erupted as Paterno appealled for calm
Posted November 10, 2011





Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 10, 2011, 12:38:25 PM
This article was written by the same person that now leaks the "pimp" rumor. It comes from April of this year and all of it now makes sense. Be sure to read the original comments at the bottom.
Madden: Sandusky a State secret
 

http://www.timesonline.com/columnists/sports/mark_madden/madden-sandusky-a-state-secret/article_863d3c82-5e6f-11e0-9ae5-001a4bcf6878.html#user-comment-area


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 10, 2011, 12:50:01 PM
Important to know this is just a rumor so far 
 
SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR: Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'


 

"
"I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."
http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-2011-11




I hope this is only a rumor alagary, but it should definitely be looked into. 


The rumor makes sense, in view of known facts. 

I'm more than curious about any connections between Second Mile and Ray Gricar.  Gricar's disappearance has remained a mystery for years, and it happened in the middle of all this.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 12:56:27 PM

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/state_college_riots_joe_patern.html
Penn State students roam streets, taunt police after coach Joe Paterno is fired over sex-abuse scandal
Posted November 10, 2011 11:00 a.m., Updated November 10, 2011 12:02 p.m.

The mobs thought they had staked out the high ground. The open street warfare between Penn State students and police – a surge and flee campaign across half a dozen blocks – was entering its third hour.

The students had scored a few victories: They flipped a news van, tore down a few light posts, stomped in the hood of a car. But the police divided them with pepper spray and pushed them down College Avenue.

The students stood on their campus, on the hillside overlooking the street. They stood on College and they backed up McCallister Street. The students taunted the two officers at the edge of the police line they had surrounded.

A guy carrying a cardboard cutout of Joe Paterno ran along the hillside and they yelled for him like the coach was there in flesh and blood.

Someone on the hill hurled a flagstone the size of a youth football that clipped a cop in the shin.

“WE ARE, PENN STATE” boomed the crowds. The police charged up the hill.

 A woman on the sidewalk yelled back: “What does that even mean anymore?”

Students took to the streets after a 10 p.m. press conference in which the university Board of Trustees announced that football coach Joe Paterno and President Graham Spanier had been fired in the aftermath of a child sex-abuse scandal involving a former assistant football coach, Jerry Sandusky.
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housands of students rushed Old Main. They debated going to the Penn Stater where the Board of Trustees had gathered, but decided it was too far away. So they marched back into the canyon – because that’s the official riot location.

For blocks, they filled Beaver Avenue from storefront to store front. It was warm. Most people were in T-shirts or Penn State jerseys. They might have been drinking, but they weren’t loaded.

 At least half were enraged their trustees had fired Paterno. They alternated chanting his name and dropping F-bombs on Sandusky and the trustees. Maybe a quarter of the crowd came to watch. The rest hadn’t decided if they wanted to be a rioter or an ironic spectator.

The students, mostly men, yelled “this place is going to burn” as they worked their way through the crowds, but it was peaceable for an hour.

Time and again, when groups tried to bring down a light pole they were pulled off.  One woman slapped a would-be pole climber in the arm. “Would JoePa want you to do that?” she shouted at him.

The students let the small group of police assembled march through the crowd. Then they reformed and chanted some more.

It wasn’t all about a football coach. If it was, dozens of men wouldn’t have taken two women standing on a car as an invitation to yell “show your (breasts).”

A few people fired Roman candles over the crowd. At least one man threw firecrackers into the middle of his fellow students.

As the TV crews arrived from the trustees announcement and waded into the crowd, more F-bombs were hurled at them – except by the students who fit in the frame. They mugged for the cameras like they were in the front row of Beaver Stadium every single time.

Then something shifted.

A pole came down. More police moved in. For a moment, it seemed everyone was headed back to Old Main to yell at an empty building. They never quite made it.
After students flipped an ABC news truck, they stampeded away from the police as the pepper spray flew for the first time. Then the mob stopped. A few coughing men with swollen red eyes kept retreating. Everyone else, realizing the spray hadn’t gotten to them, surged right back toward the police.

Students held up their cell phones recording video, telling the cops it was all going to wind up on Youtube as evidence of brutality. After one officer was struck by the rock near McAllister Street, and the police charged, the crowd actually chanted “FIRST AMENDMENT.”

After the rocks came plastic bottles. More street signs came down. The windows of another news van got bashed in. The students continued to run through their game day repertoire of songs Block by block, the police pushed them back, and students drifted away, or sprinted back toward campus.

Through the week, the students – especially the crowds that swelled in Paterno’s defense – used one line from Penn State’s alma mater as their rallying cry: “May no act of ours bring shame.”*

You could see it written on one or two signs the students carried into Beaver Canyon Wednesday night, but the masses never got around to yelling that.

The riots really broke up around 1:30 a.m. Thursday. The mob was small enough that every time the police advanced, the students fled for blocks.

The students made their last stand near the corner of College and Heister. Much earlier Wednesday, Michael Pilato was at the same spot, painting Sandusky out of Pilato’s massive mural of Penn State and State College luminaries. In Sandusky’s place, Pilato painted a blue ribbon, to remind everyone of the nine children Sandusky is accused of abusing.

Through the day, support across campus had built for a “Blue Out” at Saturday’s game against Nebraska so the country could see that Penn State stood with the victims. Across town, as the “riot” morphed into a riot, Paterno again asked the students gathered at his house to say a prayer for those children.

No one was mentioned those kids as the police broke the students’ lines. Instead, the men and women in their blue and white T-shirts fled into the night, screaming Paterno’s name.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 01:00:59 PM


Important to know this is just a rumor so far 
 
SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR: Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'


 

"
"I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."
http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-2011-11




I hope this is only a rumor alagary, but it should definitely be looked into. 


The rumor makes sense, in view of known facts. 

I'm more than curious about any connections between Second Mile and Ray Gricar.  Gricar's disappearance has remained a mystery for years, and it happened in the middle of all this.

Did you see the article I posted on Gricar's disappearance in this thread? http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12322.msg1486728#msg1486728
 I read it with great interest, and I think we're going to be hearing more about this in the very near future.  I didn't really know about Gricar's disappearance until I read the article. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 10, 2011, 01:13:51 PM


Important to know this is just a rumor so far 
 
SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR: Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'


 

"
"I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."
http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-2011-11




I hope this is only a rumor alagary, but it should definitely be looked into. 


The rumor makes sense, in view of known facts. 

I'm more than curious about any connections between Second Mile and Ray Gricar.  Gricar's disappearance has remained a mystery for years, and it happened in the middle of all this.

Did you see the article I posted on Gricar's disappearance in this thread? http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12322.msg1486728#msg1486728
 I read it with great interest, and I think we're going to be hearing more about this in the very near future.  I didn't really know about Gricar's disappearance until I read the article. 

Yes, I did read it.  I've been going over articles and websites concerning Gricar's disappearance, for several days.  Although I remember much of it, I need to read more.

Looks like Pandora's box has flipped it's lid.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 01:23:07 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/11/10/142212570/penn-state-scandal-families-of-alleged-victims-upset-by-protests-jokes
Penn State Scandal: Families Of Alleged Victims Upset By Protests, Jokes
November 10, 2011

With so much attention being given to the firing of football coach Joe Paterno and school President Graham Spanier, as well the long-term impact on the school from the sexual abuse scandal that came to light at Penn State this week, there's a danger of the alleged victims being forgotten.

Harrisburg's Patriot News reminds us that if former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky did indeed sexually abuse at least eight boys over the past decade or so (he denies the charges), there are some young men and their loved ones who are suffering — and that what's happening now is causing them more pain.

The sister of one boy is a junior at the school. She's spoken with the newspaper (which did not identify her to protect her brother's identity). Her brother was 11 when he was allegedly molested by Sandusky in one of the school's showers. She says:

— "I've been going to minimal classes, because every class I go to I get sick to my stomach. People are making jokes about it." Others, she said, have coined the verb "Sanduskied." You can imagine the context.

— The young woman also says that the scenes in State College, Pa., last night of students rioting in the streets because they're angry about Paterno's firing, mean that "if there was any pride left at PSU, it's gone now."

"I've just been really upset about it all," she added, "because a lot of people aren't focusing on the victims in this. And instead they're focusing on other things, like football."

Meanwhile, attorney Ben Andreozzi is advising some of Sandusky's alleged victims and their families. He says the Penn State trustees should have anticipated how students would react to news of Paterno's firing and perhaps held off — allowing the coach to retire at the end of the season instead, as Paterno wished.


Trustees "should have considered these victims watch TV and are aware of the students' reaction and may not want to be associated with the downfall of Mr. Paterno," Andreozzi tells the Patriot-News. "The school instead elected to do what it felt was in its own best interest at the time. Isn't that what put the school in this position in the first place?"
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BBM
I still think the board did the right thing and fired Paterno.  To allow him to retire at the end of the season would have been the easy way out, and to me, it would be an affront to the victims.  This is a very serious situation concerning the sexual abuse of children.  Fit throwers and rioters be damned.  The attorney Andreozzi says PS trustees should have anticipated how students would react to news of Paterno's firing and perhaps held off -allowing the coach to retire at the end of the season instead, as Paterno wished.  I guess that means that we should all walk on eggshells and not do anything that might rock the boat for the students, because they might get po'd?  What are they gonna do if JoePa is brought up on charges?  Is this a state university?  Or am I watching what looks like a third world country with a regime change?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 01:26:11 PM
slogger - I need to research more into the disappearance of Gricar. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 10, 2011, 01:26:45 PM
Eastern Pa. is not a good place to be a prosecuter.
http://www.yardbird.com/midnight_ride_another_missing_PA_prosecutor_1.htm


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 01:33:44 PM
Eastern Pa. is not a good place to be a prosecuter.
http://www.yardbird.com/midnight_ride_another_missing_PA_prosecutor_1.htm

Thanks alagary.  The article has a lot of background and details.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 10, 2011, 01:35:37 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/10/video-and-text-highlights-interim-penn-state-football-coach-tom-bradley-holds-press-conference/
12:15 pm ET November 10, 2011
Video and Text Highlights: Interim Penn State Football Coach Tom Bradley Holds Press Conference
by Happening Now Posted in: Gary Schultz, Jerry Sandusky, Joe Paterno, Linda Kelly, Penn State, Tim Curley, Tom Bradley 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 01:49:07 PM
Alright. Why is assistant Mike McQueary still going to coach?  Isn't this the same Mike McQueary that couldn't muster enough guts to stop Joe Sandusky when he saw him sexually abusing a young man in the showers because he was afraid?   ::MonkeyNoNo::  For shame! Bradley says "I grieve for the victims", yet he allows one of the witnesses that could have and should have stopped one of the abuse incidents to be on his staff?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-interim-coach-tom-bradley-replaces-joe-paterno-knew-sex-abuse-charges-article-1.975718
Penn State interim coach Tom Bradley replaces Joe Paterno, says he knew nothing of sex abuse charges
Bradley says assistant Mike McQueary will coach
November 10, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - Penn State’s interim football coach, Tom Bradley, denied any knowledge of sexual abuse allegations regarding former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky in 1998 and 2002 during his introductory press conference Thursday at Beaver Stadium.

“I grieve for the victims," Bradley said. “I grieve for the families."

Bradley, who played under Joe Paterno as a student athlete, declined to comment on Sandusky or characterize his relationship with the retired coordinator other than to acknowledge working under him. Bradley, who replaced Sandusky in 1999, insisted he had no reservations when he accepted the head job from interim president Rodney Erickson after Paterno was fired by the school’s board of trustees by telephone.

“I take this job with very mixed emotions, due to the situation," Bradley said. “I’ve been asked...to handle this.”

Bradley, the long-time defensive coordinator for the Nittany Lions, assumed leadership for the team as it prepared for Saturday’s noon kickoff against Nebraska.

He said he does not fear for his team’s safety, despite growing outrage over the way Penn State officials handled the sex abuse case, and rioting Thursday night by students who were protesting Paterno’s firing.

“I understood there was some activity last night," said Bradley, who has not slept since becoming head coach, of the student unrest that left shatered lightposts and a satellite truck flipped over. “I do not worry about the safety of our players on Saturday.”

Bradley met with his team captains and coaches at the football program's facility first Wednesday night. He then held a team meeting at 8 a.m. and reinforced his expectations moving forward with three regular season games remaining — the first at home Saturday and the next two on the road at Ohio State and Wisconsin.

Bradley said assistant coach Mike McQueary, who allegedly witnessed Sandusky having anal sex in the locker room showers with a young boy in 2002, is expected to remain on staff despite calls for him to step down. Bradley has not decided whether McQueary will be on the sidelines or in the coaches’ booth above. He called it a “game-time decision.”

“Players play, coaches coach, administrators administrate," Bradley said.
 ::snipping2::
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"Players play, coaches coach, administrators administrate," Bradley said.  But aren't all these players, coaches, and administrators at this university fathers, sons, uncles, grandparents and etc. themselves?  Aren't they human beings that should have care and compassion for children?  So, it's just another day at Penn State?  I could say more.








Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 01:54:28 PM

Oh, really? "...take care of the kids, take care of the team..."  I assume "kids" are the university students (as in football players) and not the kids that are victims of sexual abuse.  I'm waiting to see who's going to take care of them.


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-interim-coach-tom-bradley-replaces-joe-paterno-knew-sex-abuse-charges-article-1.975718
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Bradley fought back emotions when asked to describe Paterno's influence on him.

“Paterno will go down in history as one of the greatest men," Bradley said. “I had the privilege and honor to spend time and work with him."

He expected to speak with his former coach again before the game.

“(Paterno will say) take care of the kids, take care of the team," Bradley said.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 10, 2011, 02:01:09 PM
Mcqueary was a record setting QB 96-97 that didn't have the balls to stop a then 58 year old man from raping a child. After Sandusky he should be the next one fired.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 02:07:18 PM
Mcqueary was a record setting QB 96-97 that didn't have the balls to stop a then 58 year old man from raping a child. After Sandusky he should be the next one fired.

Yes.  It looks like PSU needs to do some more house cleaning. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 02:22:14 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45243509/ns/sports-the_new_york_times/#.TrwhG3JZrwI
Paterno aide engulfed in Penn State abuse case
McQueary witnessed alleged assault as graduate student, told his coach, but not police

November 10, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — When Mike McQueary went to Penn State Coach Joe Paterno’s house on the morning of March 2, 2002, he was a graduate assistant — the lowest rung on the coaching ladder beneath Paterno. Still, McQueary, 28 years old and a football lifer, had aspirations of one day becoming a head coach, maybe even at Penn State.
A former quarterback for Paterno, he had once been a fan attraction for his shock of bright orange hair and his State College roots. Popular and known for an easygoing, collegial manner, he was beginning the baby steps toward his dream job.

Nine years later, what McQueary told Paterno at that meeting — he had seen a former senior football coach molesting a young boy in the football building’s showers — has figured prominently in the most ignominious episode in university history.

On Wednesday night, Paterno, who had hoped to remain as coach for the final three games of the season, was fired. Graham B. Spanier, the highly regarded and long-serving president of Penn State, was removed. Penn State’s athletic director has already been charged by the authorities. The campus is in turmoil. And there is a football game Saturday that could determine the team’s season.
In an ugly episode that has torn at the soul of a proud university, set off criminal investigations and ended the career of one of the sport’s most accomplished and revered coaches, McQueary has occupied among the strangest of positions: he could be the star witness in the coming criminal cases against senior officials at the university; he has become the target for widespread criticism for not having acted more decisively himself nine years ago; and he could well be on the sideline Saturday for the game against Nebraska, helping execute a game plan devised by the coach he once dreamed he might succeed. A Penn State victory would leave it in position to reach a major bowl game.

Jerry Sandusky, a former defensive coordinator under Paterno, has been charged with sexually abusing eight young boys over a 15-year-period. According to findings laid out by state investigators, only two Penn State employees were known to have witnessed Sandusky committing a sex crime: a janitor, who now has dementia and is not competent to testify, and McQueary.

“It’s not that he’s not willing,” John J. McQueary, his father, said about his son’s public silence. “I think it’s eating him up not to be able to tell his side, but he’s under investigation by the grand jury. He’ll make it. He’s a tough kid.”
McQueary’s parents, John and Anne, moved the family to State College when Mike was 6 and immediately bought season tickets for Nittany Lions football games. A former medical corpsman with the Navy’s special warfare operations, John became a physician assistant, and later, the chief operating officer of a large medical and surgical group in State College. He was also a renowned coach in the State College area himself in youth sports.

When Mike turned 13, his father talked the Penn State quarterback, John Shaffer, into coming by Mike’s birthday party to throw a football with him. As a gift, Shaffer threw Mike a new football as he left the party.

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In high school, McQueary was a star, and as a senior he led the State College Area High football team to a 13-1 record.

“He set high standards for himself and he was stellar in his attitude, his principles and his goals,” said Ron Pavlechko, who was the State College Area football coach for 19 years and later became the school’s athletic director.

McQueary’s final high school game was a loss in the state Class AAAA semifinal, the only game Paterno saw McQueary play in high school. Years later, McQueary said he thought he won Paterno’s support for a football scholarship in that hard-fought defeat.

“I think that was the game where he said, ‘This kid’s all right, at least he’s tough,’ ” McQueary said of Paterno in an interview with The Philadelphia Daily News in 1997.

Pavlechko, who played football at Penn State, said he thought McQueary stayed home for other reasons. “Around here, a lot of kids look at Penn State as the epitome of their goals,” Pavlechko said.

For four years at Penn State, McQueary was known only as the big redheaded kid who held a clipboard on the sideline. He redshirted his freshman year, then played behind Kerry Collins for a year and Wally Richardson for two. He remained a positive influence, teammates said, despite the lack of playing time. Each Thanksgiving, he invited teammates who could not go home to his family’s house. Football players are hefty eaters, and John and Anne McQueary’s home became known for its mammoth annual feast.

McQueary finally got his chance to start as a senior in 1997, with Penn State opening the season ranked No. 1. He set a team record for passing yards in his first game, and Penn State won its first seven games. The Nittany Lions stumbled to a 9-3 final record, although McQueary’s final home game was a 35-10 win in which he threw three touchdown passes.
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Undrafted by the N.F.L., he kicked around pro training camps without landing a roster spot until, in 1999, he returned to Penn State to help with recruiting. Working toward a master’s degree in education administration, he joined the coaching staff the next season as a graduate assistant.

But on Friday, March 1, 2002, in an episode that those close to McQueary say left him shocked and confused — and that would return to haunt his life and the fortunes of his university years later — he entered the locker room in Penn State’s Lasch Football Building at about 9:30 p.m. to put a new pair of shoes in his locker and pick up some recruiting tapes, according to the report of the grand jury that investigated the allegations involving Sandusky. Coaches commonly keep late hours but not so much in the off-season months, like March. Besides, the lights were not on in the offices, but toward the locker room. That is not usual. And a shower was running.

According to the report, McQueary heard “rhythmic, slapping sounds,” which he believed to be those of sexual activity. He walked to his locker, opened it and put his sneakers inside. He then turned his head and looked into the shower.

He has said under oath that he saw Sandusky raping what appeared to be a 10-year-old boy. He immediately left, met with his father and determined he would report the incident to Paterno, according to prosecutors. A person familiar with his account said McQueary did not spare the details when he met with Paterno. Nor did he when he met with the university’s athletic director and another senior administrator, the man in charge of Penn State’s campus police.

Weeks later, according to state prosecutors, those officials told McQueary that Sandusky had been barred from bringing children onto campus.

To date, it is unclear whether McQueary was satisfied or outraged. But there is no evidence that he did anything else to see Sandusky more meaningfully investigated or punished.

What he did do was continue his climb up the ranks of Paterno’s coaching staff.

By 2004, he was named the wide receivers coach and recruiting coordinator in a staff shakeup after a dreadful 3-9 season. He replaced Jay Paterno, Joe’s son, as recruiting coordinator, and when the 2005 team went 11-1, a boost in the program’s recruited talent was lauded for the turnaround.

Over time, still so visible on the sideline because of his red hair, McQueary came to be known as the coach Paterno yelled at when things went wrong. He was often at Paterno’s side, relaying plays called from the coaches’ box upstairs to the quarterback on the field.

“Everyone wants to know what Coach is saying to me when he’s yelling at me,” McQueary, who is married with a young daughter, told a Pennsylvania newspaper in August. “It’s really everything under the sun. It’s something different every time. Coach has a knack for saying things or thinking about things during the course of a game that some of us aren’t thinking about. It’s like anything you do in life. If you’re not emotional, animated or intense about it, then why do it?”

At about that time, in an interview with The New York Times Magazine, McQueary said he dreamed of one day coaching the Nittany Lions, then added, “But Joe will probably outlive me.”

In the last few months, after injuries to Paterno, who is 84, relegated him to watch games from the coaches’ box, he chose to communicate with one coach on the sideline via a headset: McQueary, his long-time-ago graduate assistant.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Samantha on November 10, 2011, 02:23:06 PM
I don't know if we can put info about Ray Gricar in here, but I found another article:

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/25/case-of-missing-pa-district-attorney-ray-gricar-baffles-police/

Case of Missing Pa. District Attorney Baffles Police, Family
Jan 25, 2011 – 7:15 PM

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 A search of his vehicle did not indicate a struggle or any sign of foul play, but investigators did find cigarette ashes inside the vehicle.

"Now we're not talking a lot. [It was] some minute cigarette ash on the passenger's side," Bellefonte police officer Darrell Zaccagni told The Cleveland Free Times in 2005. "When they opened the car ... a cigarette smell came out of the car. Ray didn't smoke. And he never let anybody smoke inside his Mini Cooper. Ray was very fastidious about his car."
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In the days that followed, the FBI, along with Pennsylvania State Police investigators, was called in to assist in the case. Speculation soon turned to suicide -- a subject the Gricar family is all too familiar with.

In May 1996, Roy J. Gricar -- Ray Gricar's brother and Tony Gricar's dad -- disappeared in Dayton, Ohio. His car was found abandoned across the street from the office where his son worked. A search of the area was conducted, but authorities found no trace of Roy Gricar.
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"When we got the phone call our uncle was missing, we headed down," he said. "When we got there it was exactly the same scenario in terms of proximity of the vehicles to the water. Geographically speaking, it was identical. It was, in fact, a mirror opposite as far as what side of the bridge the car was found."

Nevertheless, he is not yet ready to settle on that theory, noting that the water was not very deep and the drop from the bridge was only about 25 feet at the time his uncle went missing.

"It is not a drop that will kill you," Tony Gricar said. "He also had some swimming capability. That time of the year you're looking more at hypothermia than anything else."

He added, "It's a pleasure-boating river. A few miles down there are pontoon boats. So, between sport fishers, hunters and the sheer number of boats they had out there searching and the aerial searches, they would have found something."
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According to Tony Gricar, the one thing that never made sense to police was his uncle's financial situation.

"He was making a fair amount of money; but, at least from a forensic accounting standpoint, the thought is there that there should have been more cash," he said. "But, for somebody from his generation, which [preferred to] deal in cash, what is the appropriate amount that should be sitting in an account?"
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There are three possible scenarios in the case and, according to Tony Gricar, none really fits.

Runaway: "The runaway doesn't make a lot of sense. It never has," Tony Gricar said. "I guess if you want to oversimplify it -- what's the point? There's been nothing. No scandal tied to the office or anything that would allude to that. If he wanted to do his own thing, why not wait the few months until his scheduled retirement? It really doesn't make much sense."

Homicide: "He was in the midst of being a part of the largest drug ring bust in central PA history -- a heroin deal," Tony Gricar said. "But it was a [small] amount compared to anywhere else, so there was no point to off a prosecutor or, as some have speculated, for him to go into witness protection."

Suicide: "If you want to go the suicide route, anybody can commit suicide," Tony Gricar said. "But there are none of those indicators that typically go along with it. He obviously could have had an undiagnosed or hidden depression -- it obviously runs in the family -- but why?"
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Thought there was some new info in here (I haven't read all the articles about him yet) and it was interesting his disappearance was so similar to his brothers suicide (Maybe he used it as to fake his disappearance?)

Also found it interesting that the nephew speaks of the money situation and that they expected more to be in his accounts.

Also.. how the nephew speaks of no scandals or reasons to run or even reasons to commit suicide (little did he know)



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 02:32:30 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/television/joe-paterno-penn-state-coach-scores-fair-treatment-heavy-handed-tv-news-article-1.975743?localLinksEnabled=false
Joe Paterno, former Penn State coach, scores fair treatment from usually heavy-handed TV news
Although reporters haven't shown reverence for the iconic figure, coverage has been cautious
November 10, 2011

The next time they feel like tipping over a news van, some of those Penn State students might want to consider the possibility that, given what we know, their former football coach Joe Paterno is getting pretty evenhanded treatment from the evil, bloodthirsty and amoral media.
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If Paterno had his TV set on, he heard harsh criticism about what he didn’t do after he was apparently informed of those allegations in 2002. He reported them to his superiors, which was his legal obligation, and then seemingly forgot about them – while maintaining a relationship with Sandusky at the school and in the football program.

Given this situation, reporters have not been showing the reverence and awe that Penn State students and football fans clearly feel toward JoePa.

But through all the coverage, from the almost wall-to-wall analysis on ESPN to headline reports on CNN, MSNBC and Fox News, there has been a running note of caution about Paterno’s culpability and responsibility.

ESPN college football analyst Chris Spielman reflected the general tone when he called Paterno a “good man” who made “a bad choice” and now has to “own it.”

ESPN’s Mark Schwartz said he heard the one thing Paterno wanted to do was “clarify” what happened – which might put a different perspective on the situation, but which can look a little suspicious when it comes nine years after the fact.

WFAN’s Mike Francesa, speaking to Chuck Todd on MSNBC, framed Paterno’s actions as a “decision” and a “judgment” that was so poor it “borders on criminal.”

ESPN’s Mike Greenberg broadened that same issue by saying any web of culpability seemed to extend much wider – that no one anywhere in the Penn State chain seemed interested in even learning the name of the preteen boy Sandusky allegedly molested in the Penn State locker room in 2002.
So Paterno has been in the media cross-hairs, which raises an eternal question: How much is the media giving the people what they want, and how much is the media giving the people what the media finds juicy?

But let’s face it: Any case that involves a legendary football coach and allegations of child molestation coverup is not going to be tucked somewhere back below the weather report.

Given that incendiary combination, the Paterno coverage could have gone all the way to the levels of O.J. Simpson, where there was clearly a widespread presumption of guilt and the only question was whether and how he would pay.

In Paterno’s case, there has been more an undertone of sadness, often juxtaposed against the almost poignant footage of the demonstrative, gesturing coach outside his home after he was fired.
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In the long-term picture, CBS legal analyst Jack Ford sounded the necessary and sometimes forgotten cautionary note on ESPN when he brought up the Duke lacrosse case, where the truth turned out to be far different and less outrageous than the initial allegations.

But in this case, despite the fact no act outrages more people than child molestation, even the most infuriated commentators weren’t ready to start drawing and quartering.

CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin, after declaring the whole case a “moral monstrosity” and saying Penn State had to remove Paterno, seemed to suggest we have yet to parse exactly who deserves what part of the blame.

One of the most replayed pieces of TV footage Thursday came from the moment Paterno ended his brief public remarks outside his house Wednesday night.

As he is closing the door, we hear one of his many student supporters yell, “Thanks for everything, Joe!”

Well, thanks for almost everything.




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
http://world-news.newsvine.com/_news/2011/11/10/8739016-paterno-aide-engulfed-in-penn-state-abuse-case#comments
The above is the link to some interesting comments.

The comments were from this news article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45243509/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/#.TrwppXJZrwI
Paterno aide engulfed in Penn State abuse case
McQueary witnessed alleged assault as graduate student, told his coach, but not police


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 10, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
A Statement from The Second Mile 11.6.2011
 

http://www.thesecondmile.org/welcome.php

Edit to fix subject line.  MB


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: BabsKats on November 10, 2011, 03:27:31 PM
A Statement from The Second Mile 11.6.2011
 

http://www.thesecondmile.org/welcome.php
OT  -  Klaas/Muffy or whomever, how did Lisa Irwin's Header end up on this thread?  Just being curious, never seen this happen before.
Edit to fix subject line.  MB

Alagary accidentally made  his "The Second Mile" post in Lisa Irwin's thread, and that's why it had Lisa Irwin in the subject line. I moved it and there is a little box to check and etc. to change it when it gets moved to another thread.  I thought I had checked it, but must have missed it this time around.  It's fixed now.  ::bee::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 10, 2011, 03:33:38 PM
slogger - I need to research more into the disappearance of Gricar. 

Yes, me too.  I don't believe the suicide theory, which leaves me with the murder theory.  Two incidents going on:  drugs and Sandusky.  Hmm, guess we can't ignore the "big money in football."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 03:37:25 PM
slogger - I need to research more into the disappearance of Gricar. 

Yes, me too.  I don't believe the suicide theory, which leaves me with the murder theory.  Two incidents going on:  drugs and Sandusky.  Hmm, guess we can't ignore the "big money in football."


 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 10, 2011, 03:52:39 PM

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Sandusky retired at 55 in 1999, a year after Pennsylvania police investigated (but did not prosecute) him for allegedly molesting a boy
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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-2011-11#ixzz1dKEBWeDI


Quote
http://www.thesecondmile.org/welcome.php
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As The Second Mile’s CEO Jack Raykovitz testified to the Grand Jury, he was informed in 2002 by Pennsylvania State University Athletic Director Tim Curley that an individual had reported to Mr. Curley that he was uncomfortable about seeing Jerry Sandusky in the locker room shower with a youth. Mr. Curley also shared that the information had been internally reviewed and that there was no finding of wrongdoing. At no time was The Second Mile made aware of the very serious allegations contained in the Grand Jury report.

Subsequently, in November 2008, Mr. Sandusky informed The Second Mile that he had learned he was being investigated as a result of allegations made against him by an adolescent male in Clinton County, PA. Although he maintained there was no truth to the claims, we are an organization committed first and foremost to the safety and well-being of the children we serve. Consistent with that commitment and with The Second Mile policy, we immediately made the decision to separate him from all of our program activities involving children. Thus, from 2008 to present, Mr. Sandusky has had no involvement with Second Mile programs involving children.
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Supposition:  Gricar didn't have enough for a successful prosecution by the time Sandusky was separated from the University.  Did Gricar know about the accusations of 2002?

Sandusky was not out of Second Mile until 2008; and was still on campus until about two weeks ago.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: cartfly on November 10, 2011, 04:02:54 PM
What I can't believe is that these grown men interacted with Sandusky after knowing what he was doing.  Did they have him over for parties and bbq's around their own children and grandchild?  How did they stomach shaking his hand knowing that his hands had been violating innocent children?  I have no respect or sympathy for any of the men involved.  They should've grown a pair, beat his a$$ down, and then turned him in to authorities.

Now, I want to know of any connections these guys might have to Ray Gricar.
ITA agree Kitty. I am nauseous reading all of this and now the Ray Gricar connections. What goes around comes around, eh? Karma is a b**** ::MonkeyMad::

Also, MUFFYBEE- Thank you for all of the articles and research you have brought over!! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 04:06:56 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/10/idUS243570156420111110
Don't Cry for Me Joe Paterno
November 10, 2011
By Carole Mallory at TheWrap

Tears were shed Wednesday morning by 84-year-old Joe Paterno when he met with the Penn State football team and announced his retirement -- but was he crying for the boys raped and molested during his days as Happy Valley’s legendary football coach? 

Apparently the Board of Trustees didn’t think so and fired the iconic Paterno by phone while the president of 16 years, Dr. Graham Spanier, "was allowed" to resign. John Surma, VP of PSU’s Board of Trustees said, “We thought to allow this process to continue was damaging to the university. We had to end it and to make a change in the leadership. This was a unanimous view for long term benefit of the university and to show this university is about more than just sports.”

Jerry Sandusky, the defensive coach under Paterno, and who was a professor emeritus of physical education, has been arrestedon charges of molesting and raping eight young boys (though the number is some say up to 17) over a 15-year time span. One alleged victim was a 10-year-old boy. 

Bottom Line: The Board of Trustees did not believe Paterno did enough to stop Sandusky. A thousand students gathered on campus Wednesday night to protest Paterno’s firing.
Much more...
(This article is written by a former fiance of Dick Hoak, both attended Penn State)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 04:15:32 PM
What I can't believe is that these grown men interacted with Sandusky after knowing what he was doing.  Did they have him over for parties and bbq's around their own children and grandchild?  How did they stomach shaking his hand knowing that his hands had been violating innocent children?  I have no respect or sympathy for any of the men involved.  They should've grown a pair, beat his a$$ down, and then turned him in to authorities.

Now, I want to know of any connections these guys might have to Ray Gricar.
ITA agree Kitty. I am nauseous reading all of this and now the Ray Gricar connections. What goes around comes around, eh? Karma is a b**** ::MonkeyMad::

Also, MUFFYBEE- Thank you for all of the articles and research you have brought over!! ::MonkeyAngel::

YW cartfly. As I read articles I see a bit of information or a statement I hadn't seen previously, so I post it.  I think we are just on the very tip of a big iceberg. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 10, 2011, 04:33:08 PM


Quote
http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/sandusky-grand-jury-presentment.pdf (http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/sandusky-grand-jury-presentment.pdf)    (pdf)

Grand Jury Report—Sandusky
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“It was within The Second Mile program that Sandusky found his victims.”
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“1 Sandusky retired from The Second Mile in September 2010.”

According to Second Mile, Sandusky left in 2008; according to Grand Jury, he left in 2010.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 04:46:46 PM
http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view/20111110penn_state_players_saddened_by_joe_paternos_retirement_stunned_by_developments/srvc=home&position=recent
Penn State players saddened by Joe Paterno’s retirement, stunned by developments
November 10, 2011

(http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/20111110/0b7577_Mural_11102011.jpg)
AP
The mural where the image of former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, a who was accused of molesting eight boys over 15 years, was painted over and replaced with an empty chair is seen today in State College, Pa.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 04:58:53 PM
BTW, in reference to the mural posted in my previous post, isn't that Mike McQueary's likeness on the bottom, under the platform, second from left? 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 05:19:31 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/joe-paternos-firing-penn-state-attorney-general-concern/story?id=14925158#.TrxIwnJZrwI
Joe Paterno Fired, Others Not: Attorney General's Office Has 'Concern'
November 10, 2011

Pennsylvania's attorney general has voiced "concern" over Penn State University's firing of legendary football coach Joe Paterno and the treatment of other witnesses and officials involved in a child sexual abuse case.

Nils Hagen-Frederiksen, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania attorney general's office, noted that the two officials charged with perjury and failure to report the abuse are being defended by the university, while Paterno was fired.

"We have a cooperating witness [Paterno], an individual who testified, provided truthful testimony," Hagen-Frederiksen told ABCNews.com, "but two others who were found by a grand jury to commit perjury whose legal expenses are being paid for university. One is on administrative leave. Very interesting development."

"It's certainly curious and [has] not been explained yet," he said. "Speaking as a prosecuting agency, we have a cooperating witness who has not been charged, while two individuals accused of committing crimes continue to be affiliated."

Following is a description of the main players in the Penn State sex scandal, what they knew, what they did and what happened to them.
(I've provided the list of the main players, but please read about them at the link)
Gerard "Jerry" Sandusky
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Mike McQueary
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Joe Paterno
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Tim Curley
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Gary Schultz
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Graham Spanier
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 05:21:55 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/11/joe-paterno-presidential-medal-freedom-rescinded-/1
Senators rescind support for Paterno medal
November 10, 2011

Updated 4:37 p.m. ET


Pennsylvania's two U.S. senators are rescinding their support for a Presidential Medal of Freedom for Joe Paterno
, in the wake of the legendary football coach's dismissal amid a sex abuse scandal at Penn State.

Sens. Bob Casey, a Democrat, and Pat Toomey, a Republican, had sent a letter to President Obama in September backing Paterno for the nation's highest civilian honor.

But that was before allegations of child sex abuse against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky rocked the Penn State community. Paterno, coach of the Nittany Lions for 46 years, and university president Graham Spanier were fired last night.

In a joint statement, the senators said they were rescinding their support "in light of recent events in State College." Here's the rest of their statement:

    We hope the proper authorities move forward with their investigation without delay. Penn State is an important institution in our commonwealth. We should turn our attention to the victims of these atrocious crimes and ensure they get the help they need. Our hearts and prayers go out to them and their families.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the president has no comment on any aspect of the Penn State scandal, except that Obama's thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: cartfly on November 10, 2011, 05:34:07 PM
What I can't believe is that these grown men interacted with Sandusky after knowing what he was doing.  Did they have him over for parties and bbq's around their own children and grandchild?  How did they stomach shaking his hand knowing that his hands had been violating innocent children?  I have no respect or sympathy for any of the men involved.  They should've grown a pair, beat his a$$ down, and then turned him in to authorities.

Now, I want to know of any connections these guys might have to Ray Gricar.
ITA agree Kitty. I am nauseous reading all of this and now the Ray Gricar connections. What goes around comes around, eh? Karma is a b**** ::MonkeyMad::

Also, MUFFYBEE- Thank you for all of the articles and research you have brought over!! ::MonkeyAngel::

YW cartfly. As I read articles I see a bit of information or a statement I hadn't seen previously, so I post it.  I think we are just on the very tip of a big iceberg. 
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I think you hit the nail on the head there. My fear is that this is going to involve child pornography/child sex ring... could just be my over active imagination.

I can not stop thinking about these children and the ones who failed to help them.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 05:47:17 PM
What I can't believe is that these grown men interacted with Sandusky after knowing what he was doing.  Did they have him over for parties and bbq's around their own children and grandchild?  How did they stomach shaking his hand knowing that his hands had been violating innocent children?  I have no respect or sympathy for any of the men involved.  They should've grown a pair, beat his a$$ down, and then turned him in to authorities.

Now, I want to know of any connections these guys might have to Ray Gricar.
ITA agree Kitty. I am nauseous reading all of this and now the Ray Gricar connections. What goes around comes around, eh? Karma is a b**** ::MonkeyMad::

Also, MUFFYBEE- Thank you for all of the articles and research you have brought over!! ::MonkeyAngel::

YW cartfly. As I read articles I see a bit of information or a statement I hadn't seen previously, so I post it.  I think we are just on the very tip of a big iceberg. 
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I think you hit the nail on the head there. My fear is that this is going to involve child pornography/child sex ring... could just be my over active imagination.

I can not stop thinking about these children and the ones who failed to help them.

I don't think you have an over active imagination cartfly.  I think it's more a case of you having kept up with the news and seeing what can and has happened.  We don't have that much information yet and already it's looking bad for the young victims.  I'm not sure we'll ever know the true extent.  Some may feel shame at coming forward, they or their families were paid off or given gifts etc, or feel threatened.  And of course, there  may be some very rich and/or powerful people involved.  There's a post further up thread alagary posted about a rumor that Sandusky was "Pimped out Young Boys to Rich Donors".  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12322.msg1486914#msg1486914 You may have seen it, but I wanted to include the link since I referenced it. It's getting where nothing shocks or surprises me much any more.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 10, 2011, 05:54:17 PM
Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 10, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/10/2551315/penn-state-riots-protest-joe-paterno-fired-state-college
Penn State Riot: Students Protest, Clash With Police After Joe Paterno Fired
Students took to the streets in State College after Joe Paterno was fired on Wednesday night. Crowds were clashing with police as the protest got out of hand.
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214380/joe-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state
Updated: November 10, 2011, 1:26 AM ET
Joe Paterno, Graham Spanier out
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
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 ::MonkeyNoNo::  The students have their priorities all wrong.  They should be angry and outraged with Joe Paterno and etc. for what happened to the young boys and for the cover up that ensued.  Instead they are throwing tantrums that their precious foot ball coach who helped cover up is getting what was coming to him.  Penn State was right in firing Joe Paterno imo.  To allow him to retire at the end of the season wouldn't have shown accountability.  And I'm sure the board knew there would be a backlash when they fired Paterno. 

ITA MUFFYBEE.  My husband is PSU alumini and we both feel that JoePa was really just being arrogant in his earlier yesterday report saying he would retire at the end of this season.  He was trying to nothing but save his job, his pension and his character.  He knew the details and he knew the board would oust him and he thought by saying he would retire at the end of the season he  was bystepping them.  Once again his arrogance showed and once again he was proven wrong.  He was doing nothing more then trying to save himself.  If he ever really cared about PSU Lions and the school he would have turned this situation over to the State Police at the getgo.  He was more worried about his precious team, his precious school and all the outside dollars flooding in then about the corrupt nature of a member of his staff..

Had they been brain surgeons or rocket scientists instead of jocks..maybe just maybe ..they would have thought this through and known that they should do the right thing when things happen..rather then try to cover them up in arrogance..like the truth doesn't always eventually shine through the clouded glass of greed.

Good lord..why do we pay so much to these ridiculous people anyway..and yes it is ricidulous to me that sports figures make the salary they do...I think people have lost sight of the fact all these people do is play a game..a friggin game..and we pay them millions...and the guy studying hard..who may be the next person to cure cancer, the common cold, fight hunger or pick whatever stirs your heart..they have intelligence..not brute force and arrogance..and we pay them zilch in comparison.  We have reaped what we have sown..a nation that values entertainment more then health, well being, security..and that's how we pay people..you entertain me..you get the most...even the old Kings knew that was folly, that's why the court jester was more or less consider the fool..but us we are slow learners in this fast paced 21 century..we haven't moved or accomplished much in the name of brotherhood, manhood, or world peace..but we pay people who can throw a ball more then we pay our president, doctors in research and anyone else for that matter that fills a service in our society....football, basketball, baseball, anyone of those do not fill a need, help anyone other then the players and owners, nor do they contribute to our society in general..it is just a game that children play in school yards..WTH is wrong with us that we pay grown man to play a child's game and then expect them to act like adults?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 06:19:29 PM
Thank you for sharing your and your husband's feelings on the situation Gypsy, especially since he is PSU alumni.  I don't intend to paint all PSU students, faculty, parents & alums with a wide brush.  I'm sure there are many that feel the way you and your husband do.  I think Joe Paterno should have done the honorable thing and stepped down immediately, instead of his end of season offer to retire.  Instead, the Board of Trustee's had to fire him, which caused a big back lash with the students.  Joe Paterno should have led by example imo.  

There's just so much money and power in college sports.  


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 10, 2011, 06:51:17 PM
Michael Reagan’s commentary is must read in its entirety.

Janet
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Don’t Be an Enabler — When a Child Is Abused, Here’s What to Do
By Michael Reagan
Published November 10, 2011


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Coach, you knew back in 2002 that Jerry Sandusky had anally raped a ten-year-old boy in the Lasch Football Building. You handled the matter quietly with your athletic director, Tim Curley. You took away the rapist’s keys and barred him from the facility—but you didn’t call the police. You didn’t lift a finger to help the victim. No hindsight needed, coach. You screwed up.

Yes, we all know about your 61-year career at Penn State. But when you allow children to be victimized right under your nose, you wipe out 61 years of achievement. The Jerry Sandusky scandal is your legacy now. …

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/10/dont-be-enabler-when-child-is-abused-heres-what-to-do/

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Michael Reagan is the son of President Ronald Reagan. He is a political consultant, the founder and chairman of The Reagan Group, and president of The Reagan Legacy Foundation. Visit his website at http://www.reagan.com, and visit the Michael Reagan Center at Arrow Child & Family ministries. Portions of this column are adapted from his book “Twice Adopted.”

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/10/dont-be-enabler-when-child-is-abused-heres-what-to-do



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 06:55:55 PM
http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/10/penn-st-scandal-how-parents-can-talk-to-their-kids-about-sex-abuse/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true
Penn State Scandal: Can We Trust Coaches with Our Kids?
November 10, 2011

In a report on Paterno's dismissal on Wednesday, TIME's Sean Gregory plucked a salient quote from Paterno By The Book, the coach's 1989 autobiography. "Coaches have the same obligations as all teachers," wrote Paterno, 84. "Except that we may have more moral and life-shaping influence over our players than anyone else outside of their families."

As Gregory noted, "no one fumbled" that moral influence worse than Paterno, by failing to report to the authorities alleged sexual abuse by a former Penn State defensive coach, Jerry Sandusky. Kids are taught to respect authority figures like Sandusky, who more than 30 years ago launched The Second Mile, a charity for troubled children. Sandusky is accused of molesting at least eight boys he met through the program.

Ironic? Hardly. It's the modus operandi for most sex offenders, who purport to assist, nurture and advise children. The mission of The Second Mile, according to the grand jury that indicted Sandusky on 40 counts of sexually inappropriate encounters with minors, is to "help children who need additional support and would benefit from positive human interaction." First sexual predators gain the trust of children and their parents. Then they take advantage.
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In recent decades, rates of sexual abuse have actually plunged. Child molestation by casual acquaintances and sexual abuse by caregivers decreased 61% from 1992 to 2009, according to the Crimes against Children Research Center
 at the University of New Hampshire.

David Finkelhor, the center's director, credits the decline to increased awareness, better prosecution and school-based prevention programs. "Parents are much more vigilant than they used to be," says Finkelhor, who advises parents to stay aware of what's happening in a kid's environment. That means thinking through a situation thoroughly before letting your child be alone with an adult you don't know well. Many youth sports leagues have gone a step further, establishing protocols for preventing inappropriate contact by requiring multiple adults to be present at practices.

"If your league doesn't have rules about this, it's a problem," says Bob Cook, who writes Your Kid's Not Going Pro, a youth sports blog on Forbes.com. Just as schools do with volunteers, says Cook, sports leagues should conduct background checks on coaches. Yet even Cook, who has coached all four of his kids' sports teams, wonders whether doubting coaches' integrity could backfire. "It's a fine line," he says. "You can't go and assume everyone who deals with your kid is a child molester."
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In fact, the reality is that the people most likely to harm your child are members of your own family and close social network. "You can't tell a sex offender by looking at them," says Feigh. "There isn't a red "S.O." on their shirt." It's their curious behavior that's often a tip-off — lavishing gifts on children and wanting to spend more time with your child than you do. Says Finkelhor: "Uncles and grandfathers and mothers' boyfriends are much more frequent abusers than coaches."

Along those lines, Sandusky's former daughter-in-law is taking no chances. The mother of Sandusky's grandchildren — ages 5, 7 and 9 — obtained a court order Tuesday prohibiting Sandusky from unsupervised visits with his grandchildren and barring overnights at Grandpa's.






Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 07:09:19 PM
What an idiot! “How do you fire Jo Pa? insult. no class. as a hawkeye (University of Iowa) fan I find it in poor taste."   ::MonkeyNoNo::


http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/2011/11/10/ashton-kutcher-under-fire-for-twitter-posts/
Ashton Kutcher under fire for Twitter posts
November 10, 2011

Ashton Kutcher has shut down his Twitter account after sparking outrage by defending ousted college football coach Joe Paterno.
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Paterno has come under fire for failing to take more action against Sandusky, who has been charged with molesting eight boys over a 15-year period.

Kutcher took to his Twitter account to question the board of trustees’ decision to fire Paterno, writing, “How do you fire Jo Pa? insult. no class. as a hawkeye (University of Iowa) fan I find it in poor taste.

His comment prompted a flurry of angry messages from offended followers, with several criticizing Kutcher for his response in light of the charity he co-founded to end child sex slavery.

The “Two and a Half Men” star quickly deleted the post and closed his page, admitting he felt “awful” about his comment.

He tweeted, “As an advocate in the fight against child sexual exploitation, I could not be more remorseful for all involved in the Penn St. case. As of immediately I will stop tweeting until I find a way to properly manage this feed. I feel awful about this error. Won’t happen again.”

He included a link to a post on his blog saying that he’s turned over his Twitter account management to his production company. He writes, “Up until today I have posted virtually everyone of my tweets on my own, but clearly the platform has become to big to be managed by a single individual… While I will continue to express myself through @Aplusk I’m going to turn the management of the feed over to my team at Katalyst Media to ensure the quality of it’s (sic) content.”
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https://www.internationalrewardscentre.com/component/content/article/887-demi-moore-and-ashton-kutcher-speak-out-against-child-slavery.html
Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher Speak Out Against Child Slavery
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A couple on a mission, Demi Moore and husband Ashton Kutcher are spreading the word about the international problem of child slavery. "This is another opportunity to engage people and to create awareness that human trafficking exists right here in America," Demi explained. Kutcher added, "I don't want to be in a world where that's happening and not do something to stop it." The actor has launched a campaign called "Real Men Don't Buy Girls" that has successfully gone viral thanks to the support of famous pals Bradley Cooper, Justin Timberlake, Sean Penn, and many others.
About The Demi and Ashton Foundation

Believing that freedom is a basic human right, Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher founded The Demi and Ashton Foundation (DNA) to raise awareness about child sex slavery, change the cultural stereotypes that facilitate this horrific problem, and rehabilitate innocent victims. DNA is a U.S.-based nonprofit organization.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 07:30:24 PM
Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 07:32:31 PM
I would really want to know what was on RG's harddrive.  Child porn connected to Sandusky?  I'm sorry but I can't believe that one man would be so connected to such a case as this and just happen to turn up missing.  nope.  A coincidence like that is just too unbelieveable to really happen. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 07:53:19 PM
I would really want to know what was on RG's harddrive.  Child porn connected to Sandusky?  I'm sorry but I can't believe that one man would be so connected to such a case as this and just happen to turn up missing.  nope.  A coincidence like that is just too unbelieveable to really happen. 

I wonder if the laptop hard drive is still around.  Technology in 2005 when it was found is much different today then it was then.  Maybe information could be recovered?  And the article I had posted earlier only mentioned internet searches like "how to wreck a hard drive".  I wonder if there was anything pertaining to Sandusky or child porn?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandusky-wrapped-in-2005-gricar-mystery.html
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On April 15, 2005, Gricar, then 59, took the day off. At about 11:30 a.m., he called his girlfriend, Patricia Fornicola, to say he was taking a drive on Route 192. About 12 hours later, she reported him missing.

The next day, Gricar’s Mini Cooper was found in a parking lot in Lewisburg, about 50 miles from his home in Bellefonte. Gricar’s cellphone was in the car, but not his laptop, wallet or keys, which were never recovered. Months later, the laptop was found in the Susquehanna River without its hard drive, which was discovered later. It was too damaged to yield any information. On the fourth anniversary of his disappearance, investigators revealed that a search of his home computer yielded a history of Internet searches for phrases like “how to wreck a hard drive,” according to a report at the time in The Centre Daily Times.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 08:02:32 PM
I believe the term "sex scandal" minimizes the very serious nature of events at PSU.  There's a reason I started this thread under "Crimes Against Children, Elderly and Disabled" and not "Sports" or "News of the Day".  The reason:  because what Sandusky has done and the others that enabled him to continue to sexually abuse young boys are "Crimes Against Children".  We need to call it what it is.   No need to soft pedal it.   And here's an article I whole heartedly agree with:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/columns/editors-desk/media-criticized-penn-state-isn-t-a-sex-scandal/article_f5cc5966-0bf3-11e1-b41b-001a4bcf6878.html
Media criticized: Penn State isn't a 'sex scandal'
November 10, 2011

Self-proclaimed "tech culture journalist" Xeni Jardin has criticized the media for using "sex scandal" in reporting the turmoil at Penn State, notes Steve Myers of the Poynter media training institute.

Jardin tweeted: "Media dudes: a "sex scandal" is when someone has an affair. Raping children is something else."
Searches for "sex abuse" have tripled since Saturday, when the grand jury indicted former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, according to Google Trends. But searches for "sex scandal" also have increased by at least the same amount.
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The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Joe Paterno's firing and other developments on its front page this morning under a main headline that read: "Shake-up at Penn State." One of two smaller headlines under the main headline read: PATERNO, SCHOOL HEAD FIRED -- Fallout from sex scandal involving former assistant coach."








Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 10, 2011, 08:07:23 PM
Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

KittyMom ... I respectfully disagree.

Mike McQueary was 28 years old when he witnessed Jerry Sandusky in the act of raping a 10/11 year old boy and did nothing.  If that little boy was your son/grandson would you  give Mike McQueary a pass.

When you consider Mike McQueary's current position within the football program at Penn ... it is obvious that he was benefited over the years by his silence.

I am disgusted!!!

Did you read the Grand Jury transcript regarding the hell that little boys experienced because an adult who witnessed and adults who had knowledge did nothing.

I am disgusted with them all!!  Personal integrity and the integrity of the University would be intact today if it were not for a conspiracy of silence.

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 08:07:31 PM
I believe the term "sex scandal" minimizes the very serious nature of events at PSU.  There's a reason I started this thread under "Crimes Against Children, Elderly and Disabled" and not "Sports" or "News of the Day".  The reason:  because what Sandusky has done and the others that enabled him to continue to sexually abuse young boys are "Crimes Against Children".  We need to call it what it is.   No need to soft pedal it.   And here's an article I whole heartedly agree with:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/columns/editors-desk/media-criticized-penn-state-isn-t-a-sex-scandal/article_f5cc5966-0bf3-11e1-b41b-001a4bcf6878.html
Media criticized: Penn State isn't a 'sex scandal'
November 10, 2011

Self-proclaimed "tech culture journalist" Xeni Jardin has criticized the media for using "sex scandal" in reporting the turmoil at Penn State, notes Steve Myers of the Poynter media training institute.

Jardin tweeted: "Media dudes: a "sex scandal" is when someone has an affair. Raping children is something else."
Searches for "sex abuse" have tripled since Saturday, when the grand jury indicted former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, according to Google Trends. But searches for "sex scandal" also have increased by at least the same amount.
 ::snipping2::
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Joe Paterno's firing and other developments on its front page this morning under a main headline that read: "Shake-up at Penn State." One of two smaller headlines under the main headline read: PATERNO, SCHOOL HEAD FIRED -- Fallout from sex scandal involving former assistant coach."
::rhino::
I heard it being compared to what went on in the catholic church. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 08:09:56 PM
Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

KittyMom ... I respectfully disagree.

Mike McQueary was 28 years old when he witnessed Jerry Sandusky in the act of raping a 10/11 year old boy and did nothing.  If that little boy was your son/grandson would you  give Mike McQueary a pass.

When you consider Mike McQueary's current position within the football program at Penn ... it is obvious that he was benefited over the years by his silence.

I am disgusted!!!

Did you read the Grand Jury transcript regarding the hell that little boys experienced because an adult who witnessed and adults who had knowledge did nothing.

I am disgusted with them all!!  Personal integrity and the integrity of the University would be intact today if it were not for a conspiracy of silence.

Janet

Whoa...I thought I read 21 and he was a grad student.  Now I have to find where I read that.  If he was 28yrs old that is a different story.  Those 7 years would give him experience and perspective.  Going to read back now.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 08:10:44 PM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/mc-penn-state-paterno-aftermath-20111110,0,2115667.story
Penn State interim president says more coming on McQueary
Rodney Erickson's remarks come as trustees seek to contain fallout from child sexual abuse scandal.

November 10, 2011

Penn State introduced its first new head football coach in nearly half a century on Thursday, even as State College recovered from the riot that followed the firing of legendary coach Joe Paterno and the Board of Trustees continued to meet on how to contain the fallout.

Early Thursday evening, Penn State interim president Rodney Erickson emerged from a trustees meeting, telling reporters to "stay tuned" for more on assistant coach Mike McQueary, who told a grand jury he witnessed former coach Jerry Sandusky allegedly assaulting a young boy in 2002 when he worked as a graduate assistant
.

With Paterno fired and univesrity President Graham Spanier tendering his resignation, McQueary emerged as the focus of the media ire with commentators questioning why the former Penn State quarterback didn't stop the alleged sexual encounter.

Erickson offered no other details. But earlier Wednesday interim coach Tom Bradley said McQueary would be at Saturday's game against Nebraska, but his role was undetermined. A trustee who asked not to identified because of the sensitive nature of the scandal said the trustees do not want McQueary on the field for fear of his safety.

At a news conference at the Penn Stater on Thursday afternoon, Gov. Tom Corbett sidestepped questions about the fate MQueary.

"The university -- and you will have to talk to the university itself -- still has some deliberations to make in that respect," the governor said.

When he was asked his personal opinion about what should happen, "I'm not going to give you my opinion yet. I have many opinions. This is not the time to be sharing that. I have to see that the university addresses it in a proper way. I would remind everybody, it would appear … I'm going to back off on McQueary."
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 08:17:24 PM
Under the circumstances (see my bold) maybe an attorney is a wise idea.  Was he getting legal advice previously, but not in a formal fashion?  What would an attorney have advised him when told about the assistant coach sexually abusing a young boy? 

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/10/8742718-paterno-hires-criminal-defense-lawyer-source-tells-nbc-news
Paterno hires criminal defense lawyer, source tells NBC News
November 10, 2011

Joe Paterno has hired a prominent Washington criminal defense lawyer to represent him in the Penn State sex abuse case, a source close to the case told NBC News.

J. Sedgwick Sollers, who once represented President George H.W. Bush in the Iran-Contra affair, was hired by Paterno on Thursday. The longtime Penn State football coach was fired Wednesday night after disclosures in a grand jury report that one of his assistants informed him in 2002 about an alleged incident of sexual abuse by former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.

Paterno has not been charged with any crimes in the case. He has been described as a cooperating witness in the case. Two other university officials who Paterno told about the incident were charged this week with failing to report Sandusky's conduct to legal authorities and perjury.

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A source close to Paterno said that in addition to the investigations by the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office, the former coach is concerned about the likelihood of civil lawsuits by Sandusky's alleged victims and their families. 



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 10, 2011, 08:18:37 PM
Last Man Standing
Mike McQueary says that he saw Jerry Sandusky sexually assault a child. Why does he still have a job at Penn State?
By Josh Levin|Posted Thursday, Nov. 10, 2011, at 6:00 PM ET


On March 1, 2002, Mike McQueary allegedly walked into the Penn State locker room and saw Jerry Sandusky raping a young boy. According to the grand jury report in the Sandusky case, McQueary—then a 28-year-old graduate assistant for the Nittany Lions football team—“left immediately, distraught.”  McQueary then called his father, who advised him to tell coach Joe Paterno what he’d seen. He did as his father advised, and a short while later, he told Penn State’s athletic director Tim Curley and administrator Gary Schultz as well. A few weeks later, the report explains, Curley told McQueary “that Sandusky’s keys to the locker room were taken away and that the incident had been reported to The Second Mile,” Sandusky’s nonprofit for at-risk children. Until he testified before the grand jury, that’s where the story ended for Mike McQueary. He was never interviewed by Penn State police, and he never reported Sandusky’s actions to any other agency.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2011/11/mike_mcqueary_he_says_that_he_saw_jerry_sandusky_sexually_assault_a_child_why_does_he_still_have_a_job_at_penn_state_.html




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 08:31:14 PM
Last Man Standing
Mike McQueary says that he saw Jerry Sandusky sexually assault a child. Why does he still have a job at Penn State?
By Josh Levin|Posted Thursday, Nov. 10, 2011, at 6:00 PM ET


On March 1, 2002, Mike McQueary allegedly walked into the Penn State locker room and saw Jerry Sandusky raping a young boy. According to the grand jury report in the Sandusky case, McQueary—then a 28-year-old graduate assistant for the Nittany Lions football team—“left immediately, distraught.”  McQueary then called his father, who advised him to tell coach Joe Paterno what he’d seen. He did as his father advised, and a short while later, he told Penn State’s athletic director Tim Curley and administrator Gary Schultz as well. A few weeks later, the report explains, Curley told McQueary “that Sandusky’s keys to the locker room were taken away and that the incident had been reported to The Second Mile,” Sandusky’s nonprofit for at-risk children. Until he testified before the grand jury, that’s where the story ended for Mike McQueary. He was never interviewed by Penn State police, and he never reported Sandusky’s actions to any other agency.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2011/11/mike_mcqueary_he_says_that_he_saw_jerry_sandusky_sexually_assault_a_child_why_does_he_still_have_a_job_at_penn_state_.html



OK, I stand corrected.  I guess I saw graduate assistant and thought this was like when I was in school many years ago.  The grad assts we had were actual grad students, recently graduated from a 4 yr prog. working to help pay tuition.  I didn't realize the guy was 28.  I can't believe he didn't make a sound.  I'd have involuntarily screamed.  What explanation do any of these people really have?

I did read that some of these kids spent time in Sandusky's home with his wife and that some of the abuse took place there.  Did this woman not have a clue?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 08:34:11 PM
Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

McQueary wasn't a green  18 year old freshman  when this happened, he was a 28 year old grad assistant working on a master's degree in education administration.  He had already graduated with a BS from PSU, went undrafted in football and came back to PSU.   I have a 27 year old grad assistant son at another university working on his masters, and by the time they're that old, they know they're way around.  imo. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45243509/ns/sports-the_new_york_times/#.TrwhG3JZrwI



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 08:39:42 PM
Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

McQueary wasn't a green  18 year old freshman  when this happened, he was a 28 year old grad assistant working on a master's degree in education administration.  He had already graduated with a BS from PSU, went undrafted in football and came back to PSU.   I have a 27 year old grad assistant son at another university working on his masters, and by the time they're that old, they know they're way around.  imo. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45243509/ns/sports-the_new_york_times/#.TrwhG3JZrwI


I realize that I had the wrong idea on his age.  I stand corrected.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 08:48:37 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Sandusky

It is wiki so take it with a grain of salt.

Quote
Sandusky is married and has six adopted children.[23] He also took in foster children.[5]
One son, Jon Sandusky, serves as Director of Player Personnel for the Cleveland Browns.[24][25] Another son, E.J. Sandusky, is an assistant football coach at West Chester University.[26]

It makes you wonder if he ever abused his own kids.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 10, 2011, 08:54:58 PM
KittyMom

I somehow believe that some of those children closest to Jerry Sandusky ... some of those children who are now grown have a story to tell.

Janet

+++++

PSU's Jerry Sandusky 'found his victims' at Second Mile group home
Sunday, November 06, 2011


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Mr. Sandusky and his wife Dottie have six adopted children and had cared for foster children, which led them to start the nonprofit. Mr. Sandusky was inducted into the Pennsylvania Sports Hall of Fame in 1999 and received awards for Second Mile including the 1993 NAACP Human Rights Award, the 1995 YMCA Service-To-Youth Award and the 1996 SGMA Heroes Award. President George Bush nationally recognized it as a philanthropic "Point Of Light" in November 1990.

"After we had taken in some foster children," Mrs. Sandusky told Sports Illustrated in 1982, "we saw the opportunities that some kids just hadn't had. But we'd gotten to the point where we couldn't take in any more, so Jerry started thinking about starting a group home."

It was also within the charity that Mr. Sandusky "found his victims," a grand jury presentment stated. "Through The Second Mile, Sandusky had access to hundreds of boys, many of whom were vulnerable due to their social situations."

Mr. Sandusky retired from Penn State in 1999 to devote his time to Second Mile, where he would stay on until 2010. Efforts to reach the foundation's CEO Jack Raykovitz were not successful, but he released a statement to the Patriot-News Friday.

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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11310/1187908-454-0.stm?cmpid=psu.xml


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 10, 2011, 09:06:54 PM
Off for the evening but will check in later anticipating an update on Mike McQueary.

Could it be that the University board of trustees realize that by letting Mike McQueary go from his lucrative position within the football program ... there will be no incentive for this guy to remain quiet over EVERYTHING he knows encompassing this child sex abuse scanda?.  Could it be that Mike was paid off for his silence?

I could be wrong.

Later, Janet
6:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 10, 2011, 09:27:52 PM
I wonder who in the prosecutors office besides Ray Gricar knew about this case.  He couldn't have been the only right, could he?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 09:32:15 PM
I'm  just surprised that in light of John McQueary's professions and experience that he advised his son Mike to report the sexual abuse he witnessed to the school and not the police.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45243509/ns/sports-the_new_york_times/#.TrwhG3JZrwI
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“It’s not that he’s not willing,” John J. McQueary, his father, said about his son’s public silence. “I think it’s eating him up not to be able to tell his side, but he’s under investigation by the grand jury. He’ll make it. He’s a tough kid.”
McQueary’s parents, John and Anne, moved the family to State College when Mike was 6 and immediately bought season tickets for Nittany Lions football games. A former medical corpsman with the Navy’s special warfare operations, John became a physician assistant, and later, the chief operating officer of a large medical and surgical group in State College. He was also a renowned coach in the State College area himself in youth sports.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 09:37:30 PM
I'm sorry if my reply to you about the age of Mike McQueary came off badly, KittyMom.  I didn't see the previous post, and after I read mine, it sounded snarky.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 09:41:29 PM
I wonder who in the prosecutors office besides Ray Gricar knew about this case.  He couldn't have been the only right, could he?

I've wondered the same thing.  But I found this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandusky-wrapped-in-2005-gricar-mystery.html
<snip>
No one got a bye with Ray,” said Anthony De Boef, who worked as an assistant district attorney under Gricar for five years. “He didn’t care who you were; he had a job to do.”

De Boef said Gricar did not share any information with him about the case in 1998, which involved Sandusky allegedly showering with an 11-year-old boy. Gricar, he said, reviewed the police reports in private including, presumably, notes or recordings of two conversations that the police heard between Sandusky and the boy’s mother. But Gricar had a reputation for thoroughness, and if he thought he had enough to charge Sandusky, he would have, De Boef and other lawyers said.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 09:55:21 PM
Maybe it's just me, but this story kind of sounds to me like they're trying to put the past behind them and move on.  Frankly, I don't think it's quite time yet to do that.  The wearing of blue -the color that represents victims of child abuse is a nice gesture, but as far as I can see, the investigation is just starting. The growing number of people that want to put the past behind them had better stop and figure out what happened right in front of them first.  It's much more than rallying around the cause.  That sounds rather superficial.  As I said, the investigation is just starting imo.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/133662523.html
Facebook effort rallies Penn State group against abuse
November 10, 2011

When the grand jury issued its stomach-turning report on the sex crimes allegedly committed by former Pennsylvania State University football coach Jerry Sandusky, alumna Therese Jones was sitting in her apartment 3,000 miles away in Oakland, Calif.

The graphic details in the report of alleged sex acts with young boys propelled her to action. On Sunday, she launched a Facebook page to rally fans to wear blue - the color that represents victims of child abuse - at Saturday's Penn State game against Nebraska.

In 10 hours, 2,000 people signed up.

By Monday, the number had ballooned to 10,000 and Jones was on a plane bound for State College. Her goal, now supported by the university's athletic department, is to decorate the stands in blue ribbons - as opposed to the customary white-out - to show the world that Penn State is united in concern for children who suffered abuse.

"This is not what Penn State represents," said Jones, who as an undergraduate science educator worked with children the same age as the eight unnamed alleged victims in the grand jury report.

Peace was restored to Happy Valley on Thursday morning after a night of mayhem triggered by the firing of football coach Joe Paterno. But the reverberations of the crisis that also brought down president Graham Spanier and two other top officials could be felt across the community as the university's besieged board of trustees huddled in a secret location and police prepared for the potential of fresh rounds of unrest this weekend.

A growing number of people, like Jones, want to focus on the future, repairing the university's tarnished image and helping raise awareness about crimes against children.

"There's not much we can do to undo the past," she said. "But maybe we can rally around a cause and make some good out of what happened."

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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 10:06:45 PM


http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/penn-states-dangerous-culture-of-silence-at-the-top/248231/?google_editors_picks=true
Penn State's Dangerous Culture of Silence at the Top
November 10, 2011

Former university president Graham Spanier, not Joe Paterno, deserves the majority of the blame for covering up the child-molestation allegations

The issues that are tearing Penn State apart stem from a fundamental, recurring issue in institutional scandals: a culture of silence that puts protection of the university (or the corporation or the church or the governmental department) ahead of doing justice in individual cases and preventing injury in future ones.


The ultimate symbol of that dangerous culture of silence is not Joe Paterno, but the president of Penn State for 16 years, Graham Spanier. Both were fired by the Penn State trustees Wednesday evening for failing to ensure the police were informed of, among other things, a 2002 apparent rape of a young boy in a Penn State locker room by Jerry Sandusky, a former defensive coordinator of the football team.

Paterno's firing will receive the greatest attention--and commentary. But the ultimate responsibility for the failure to act lies with the university president.
According to the grand jury report, Spanier, like Paterno, knew of the 2002 incident but failed to go beyond the actions of the athletic department prohibiting Sandusky from bringing young boys onto the Penn State campus: this was nine years ago.

Spanier, a trained therapist, with a Ph.D. in psychology, had to know that a possible crime, of a serious nature, had been committed. He had to know that the alleged perpetrator could, quite possibly, repeat his actions, even if no longer in a Penn State locker room. He had to know that he had a moral responsibility to let public law enforcement authorities investigate and resolve the case in the name of both justice and prevention.

Yet he did nothing.  Somehow, he convinced himself that "protecting" the institution by sweeping the issue under the rug was more important than protecting young boys. That Paterno would want to do the bare minimum legally--report the incident "up to" the athletic director and then look away--is understandable even if indefensible, given his deep involvement in the football program.
 ::snipping2::

Spanier was the one who in 2002 who could easily have handled this matter  correctly.  At the end of the day, the deadly culture of silence always starts at the top. The leader has to make clear that the institution has a primary responsibility for integrity, not just doing what is lawful (which may not have occurred here) but also for doing what is right (which almost surely didn't happen here).

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: cartfly on November 10, 2011, 10:19:52 PM
I wonder who in the prosecutors office besides Ray Gricar knew about this case.  He couldn't have been the only right, could he?

I've wondered the same thing.  But I found this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandusky-wrapped-in-2005-gricar-mystery.html
<snip>
No one got a bye with Ray,” said Anthony De Boef, who worked as an assistant district attorney under Gricar for five years. “He didn’t care who you were; he had a job to do.”

De Boef said Gricar did not share any information with him about the case in 1998, which involved Sandusky allegedly showering with an 11-year-old boy. Gricar, he said, reviewed the police reports in private including, presumably, notes or recordings of two conversations that the police heard between Sandusky and the boy’s mother. But Gricar had a reputation for thoroughness, and if he thought he had enough to charge Sandusky, he would have, De Boef and other lawyers said.
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First, Thanks Muffy for the link upstream to the article.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I wonder if Ray was threatened. There was allot of money at stake for the University.....also, did Ray Gricar's brother disappear before him or after him?

I thought we had a thread somewhere here regarding Ray, but I could be confused. (it doesn't take much, lol) A reference did come up to Ray but in another thread regarding missing adults. I sure hope that hard drive is still available in evidence because as you said earlier technology has grown tremendously since then.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: wreck on November 10, 2011, 10:20:30 PM


http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/penn-states-dangerous-culture-of-silence-at-the-top/248231/?google_editors_picks=true
Penn State's Dangerous Culture of Silence at the Top
November 10, 2011

Former university president Graham Spanier, not Joe Paterno, deserves the majority of the blame for covering up the child-molestation allegations

The issues that are tearing Penn State apart stem from a fundamental, recurring issue in institutional scandals: a culture of silence that puts protection of the university (or the corporation or the church or the governmental department) ahead of doing justice in individual cases and preventing injury in future ones.


The ultimate symbol of that dangerous culture of silence is not Joe Paterno, but the president of Penn State for 16 years, Graham Spanier. Both were fired by the Penn State trustees Wednesday evening for failing to ensure the police were informed of, among other things, a 2002 apparent rape of a young boy in a Penn State locker room by Jerry Sandusky, a former defensive coordinator of the football team.

Paterno's firing will receive the greatest attention--and commentary. But the ultimate responsibility for the failure to act lies with the university president.
According to the grand jury report, Spanier, like Paterno, knew of the 2002 incident but failed to go beyond the actions of the athletic department prohibiting Sandusky from bringing young boys onto the Penn State campus: this was nine years ago.

Spanier, a trained therapist, with a Ph.D. in psychology, had to know that a possible crime, of a serious nature, had been committed. He had to know that the alleged perpetrator could, quite possibly, repeat his actions, even if no longer in a Penn State locker room. He had to know that he had a moral responsibility to let public law enforcement authorities investigate and resolve the case in the name of both justice and prevention.

Yet he did nothing.  Somehow, he convinced himself that "protecting" the institution by sweeping the issue under the rug was more important than protecting young boys. That Paterno would want to do the bare minimum legally--report the incident "up to" the athletic director and then look away--is understandable even if indefensible, given his deep involvement in the football program.
 ::snipping2::

Spanier was the one who in 2002 who could easily have handled this matter  correctly.  At the end of the day, the deadly culture of silence always starts at the top. The leader has to make clear that the institution has a primary responsibility for integrity, not just doing what is lawful (which may not have occurred here) but also for doing what is right (which almost surely didn't happen here).

 ::snipping2::
Absolutely on target!!! This was not just about saving Penn State's reputation -- it was putting a STOP to the possible further abuse.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 10:25:27 PM
I guess they were trying earlier to get the public's reaction, and found it was negative!  At least hold off having Mike  McQueary coaching until things are clarified.  Right now there's just too many questions.  JMHO

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/11/penn-state-mike-mcqueary-threats-will-not-coach-nebraska-game/1
Penn State's Mike McQueary will not coach against Nebraska
November 10, 2011

Mike McQueary will not be at Penn State's game Saturday against Nebraska due to multiple threats made against the team's assistant coach.
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Here is the complete text of the statement by the school:

    Due to multiple threats made against Assistant Coach Mike McQueary, the University has decided it would be in the best interest of all for Assistant Coach McQueary not to be in attendance at Saturday's Nebraska game.

McQueary testified that he saw Sandusky engaged in a sex act with a 10-year-old boy in 2002. He said he reported the incident to Paterno, who then spoke with athletics director Tim Curley.

Curley and senior vice president Gary Schultz have been charged with perjury and failing to report a crime in the case.

Earlier Thursday, Penn State players expressed their support for McQueary, who is the team's receivers coach and recruiting coordinator.

"He's handled it very well. You would've thought nothing had ever happened...it's like that situation never came up," cornerback Stephon Morris. "I want him out there, we need him out there, he has a good heart. A lot of people probably thought he could've done more, but he did what he could and he has a good heart."

Offensive lineman Chima Okoli added that the team is not worried about criticism from the outside regarding McQueary and his role in the case.

"We try to tune it out. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and you can't please everyone," he said. "We're behind Mike 100 percent and he's actually one of my favorite coaches."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 10:33:34 PM
I don't agree with threats toward Mike McQueary, but I think it's good he's staying away from the game at this time. 

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-assistant-coach-mike-mcqueary-sit-nebraska-due-threats-article-1.975987?localLinksEnabled=false
Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary will sit out Nebraska due to threats
Assistant who witnessed abuse sits ou
t
November 10, 2011

Due to multiple threats made against assistant coach Mike McQueary, Penn State has decided it would be in the best interest of all for McQueary not to be in attendance at Saturday's Nebraska game, according to a release just issued by the school.

McQueary testitfied to the Pennsylvania grand jury he was an eyewitness to a sexual assault by former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky in the showers of the locker room at the Lasch football buildling .

In the spring of 2002, he chose to leave the building instead of trying to pull the child out of harm's way, according to the grand jury report.

After speaking with his father, McQueary informed Paterno the next day of what he saw and Paterno called AD Tim Curley.

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*******************************
There's a poll on the right side of the article page:

Poll Results

Thanks for your vote.

Do you think PSU assistant Mike McQueary should sit Saturday's game?
Yes, he never reported what he witnessed to police, so he's at fault as well    75%    
No, he reported to his bosses, it's their job to get the police involved    25%    




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 10, 2011, 11:06:16 PM
Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

KittyMom ... I respectfully disagree.

Mike McQueary was 28 years old when he witnessed Jerry Sandusky in the act of raping a 10/11 year old boy and did nothing.  If that little boy was your son/grandson would you  give Mike McQueary a pass.

When you consider Mike McQueary's current position within the football program at Penn ... it is obvious that he was benefited over the years by his silence.

I am disgusted!!!

Did you read the Grand Jury transcript regarding the hell that little boys experienced because an adult who witnessed and adults who had knowledge did nothing.

I am disgusted with them all!!  Personal integrity and the integrity of the University would be intact today if it were not for a conspiracy of silence.

Janet


ITA JANET.

AS I told a friend these football players and their coaches and mentors are supposed to be such big upstanding men...and what did they do..Mc Querry ran and cried like a little girl to his father..the rest just glossed over it and failed to do anything.

The very least McQueary should have done was taken that little boy out of their and directly to the police..and he should have pounded Sandusky's head against the wall while he was at it...but no he ran away confused and confounded like a little girl crying for his father..these are all very little men..not big men...little men..not the type of men any child should have be looking up to...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Gypsy DD on November 10, 2011, 11:14:10 PM
http://www.csnphilly.com/xfinity/McQueary-will-not-coach-Saturday-because?blockID=592036&feedID=704

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McQueary will not coach Saturday because of threats

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – The Penn State Athletic Department has announced that wide receivers coach Mike McQueary will not coach Saturday’s game against Nebraska at Beaver Stadium because of “multiple threats.”

According to a statement, “the University has decided it would be in the best interest of all for Assistant Coach McQueary not to be in attendance at Saturday's Nebraska game.”

 ::snipping2::

Seems many others agree..McQueary didn't do all he could have that night or the days following either...
 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 10, 2011, 11:15:41 PM
Off for the evening but will check in later anticipating an update on Mike McQueary.

Could it be that the University board of trustees realize that by letting Mike McQueary go from his lucrative position within the football program ... there will be no incentive for this guy to remain quiet over EVERYTHING he knows encompassing this child sex abuse scandal?  Could it be that Mike was paid off for his silence?

I could be wrong.

Later, Janet


Why is Mike McQueary still coaching at PSU?
4 hours, 55 minutes ago


STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – They’ve all been swept out now, everyone involved in the alleged sexual assault in 2002 that crushed Penn State.

Mike McQueary, a central figure in the Penn State scandal, remains employed as his superiors vanish.

Everyone but one man.

The one who saw it.

Assistant coach Mike McQueary was expected to be working Saturday when the Nittany Lions play Nebraska. McQueary remains employed by the school but will not be in attendance for the game against the Cornhuskers. The Penn State athletic department made the decision late Thursday to remove McQueary from coaching in the game after receiving “multiple threats.”

Legendary boss Joe Paterno will not be there, because he did not do enough in response to the horrifying allegation that former assistant Jerry Sandusky assaulted a child in the shower at the Penn State football building. Athletic director Tim Curley will not be there, after being charged with a felony crime for not reporting the allegation. Former senior vice president Gary Schultz will not be there – he is charged as well. Former president Graham Spanier will not be there, either, having paid for his inaction and tone deafness with his job Wednesday night. And obviously Sandusky could be facing life in prison (though he has been extended the luxury of being out on bail).

But McQueary, the lowest man on the accountability totem pole in this tawdry affair, and seemingly the most expendable, still has his job. The one guy involved with Penn State football who allegedly witnessed Sandusky in the disgusting act of raping a child – the one guy in position to physically stop the violence – continues on.

It is curious. Perhaps there is legal protection from federal whistleblower legislation that has allowed him to remain employed. Perhaps there are other explanations. But thus far, it has not been adequately explained by Penn State or anyone else close to McQueary.

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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=pf-forde_why_mcqueary_still_coaching111011


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2011, 11:49:27 PM
The attorney was concerned more victims might not come forward out of fear, especially after seeing all the backlash the night JoPa was fired, instead of being allowed to retire at the end of the season.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/sports/ncaafootball/lawyer-raises-concerns-for-boys-in-sandusky-case.html
Concerns Raised for Boys in Sandusky Case
November 10, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Sandusky was indicted last week by a grand jury and faces 40 criminal counts of sexual assault ranging from statutory rape to inappropriate touching. He has denied all charges. He was released on $100,000 bail and is to appear in court next month for a preliminary hearing.

It is unlikely that any of his reported victims, some of whom were as young as 10 or 11 at the time, will appear. The grand jury did not identify them except by number and said that in a couple of cases, it did not even know their identities.

Here are the outlines of their cases, based on the grand jury report and the way it identified the boys.

VICTIM 1 He was 11 or 12 years old when he met Sandusky in 2005 or 2006 through the Second Mile, a charity Sandusky set up to help disadvantaged boys. The coach gave the boy gifts — golf clubs, a computer, clothes — and often had him stay at his house in a basement bedroom.

Sandusky would crawl into bed with him, have the boy lie on top of him and “crack his back,” pulling the boy against him and then rubbing his back. The grand jury said Sandusky performed oral sex on the boy more than 20 times in 2007 and 2008 and had the boy perform oral sex on him once.

VICTIM 2 A boy, about 10 years old, was seen naked in a locker-room shower at Penn State with Sandusky in 2002 by Mike McQueary, then a 28-year-old graduate assistant and aspiring coach. The grand jury report said McQueary saw the boy “with his hands up against the wall, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky.”

VICTIM 3 A boy, about 13, was invited by Sandusky in 2000 to his home for dinners, to go on walks and to attend Penn State football games. They exercised together and then showered. Sandusky patted him, rubbed his shoulders, washed his hair and gave him bear hugs. The boy stayed at Sandusky’s home, where Sandusky blew on his stomach, rubbed the inside of his thigh and touched his genitals.

VICTIM 4 A boy, 12 or 13, “was repeatedly subjected to involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and indecent assault at the hands of Sandusky,” the report said. Contact took place in 1996 or 1997 in the locker-room shower and in hotel rooms. Sandusky gave the boy dozens of gifts — sports equipment, clothes and passes to sporting events — and threatened to send him home from the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio when the boy resisted his advances.

VICTIM 5 A boy, 7 or 8, was invited in 1995 or 1996 to Sandusky family events and football games. When the boy was 8 or 10, Sandusky would roughhouse with him, then say they needed to shower. At one point, Sandusky, naked, pinned the boy against a wall in the shower, then placed the boy’s hand on his genitals. The boy slid away, and Sandusky never touched him again.

VICTIM 6 When the boy was 11, in 1998, Sandusky was driving him to the university and put his hand on his thigh in the car. At the university they wrestled and Sandusky said they needed to shower. He lathered the boy in soap and bear-hugged him from behind. After the boy’s mother reported the incident to the university, Sandusky told investigators that he was wrong and that “I wish I were dead.”

VICTIM 7 A boy, about 10, was invited in 1994 to numerous events and sleepovers at Sandusky’s. After a couple of years, Sandusky began putting his hand on the boy’s thigh while they were driving and on at least one occasion put his hands down the boy’s pants, though never touching his genitals. Sandusky bear-hugged him, cracked his back and shared showers.

VICTIM 8 An unidentified “young” boy was seen in the shower with Sandusky at Penn State in 2000 by a university janitor. The janitor said Sandusky had pinned the boy against the wall and was performing oral sex on him.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: cartfly on November 10, 2011, 11:56:24 PM
Apologies if posted already, but this is a great video (scroll down a little) regarding the disappearance of Ray Gricar:

http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/ray-gricar-original-district-attorney-in-jerry-sandusky-trail-went-missing-in-2005-declared-dead.html (http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/ray-gricar-original-district-attorney-in-jerry-sandusky-trail-went-missing-in-2005-declared-dead.html)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 12:13:09 AM
Apologies if posted already, but this is a great video (scroll down a little) regarding the disappearance of Ray Gricar:

http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/ray-gricar-original-district-attorney-in-jerry-sandusky-trail-went-missing-in-2005-declared-dead.html (http://www.nesn.com/2011/11/ray-gricar-original-district-attorney-in-jerry-sandusky-trail-went-missing-in-2005-declared-dead.html)

Thanks cartfly, I hadn't seen that yet.  And don't ever worry about posting something that may have been posted before, because sometimes monkeys  may have missed it the first time, imo. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 11, 2011, 12:37:22 AM

Missing DA Was Tied To Sandusky Case
Updated: Thursday, 10 Nov 2011, 6:15 PM EST
Published : Thursday, 10 Nov 2011, 5:09 PM EST


<snipped>

Gricar appears in the grand jury presentment in the Jerry Sandusky sex-crimes case as the DA who didn't prosecute Sandusky after a six-week investigation in 1998 in Center County.

Gricar got the case after a boy's mother complained to police after her son showered with Sandusky.

According to the grand jury presentment, Penn State University police were also involved in the 1998 Sandusky case.

Gricar's office was the only local or state agency contacted about an alleged victim of Sandusky, a long-time Paterno assistant who retired in 1999 but continued to run a charity to help at-risk children.

<snipped>

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/missing-da-was-tied-to-sandusky-case


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 11, 2011, 01:20:58 AM
ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
What`s Next in PSU Sex Abuse Scandal?
Aired November 10, 2011 - 19:00   ET


<snipped>

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s go out to the phone lines. Diane, Arizona, your question or thought?

DIANE, ARIZONA (via telephone): Hi, Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hey.

DIANE: I`ve been listening all day to you and the Mikes and Vinnie and everybody, and I heard this McQueary, the grad student, mentioned kind of in passing. And I want to know why you guys aren`t coming down harder on him? Here he is a big, strapping young football player. Why didn`t he go in there and drag that old pervert off the kid, wrap the kid in a towel, take him to the hospital, a report would have been made, end of pervert.

Even I would have done that and I`m a 5`2 little woman.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/10/ijvm.01.html




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 11, 2011, 04:26:52 AM
I'm just putting this link here so I don't forget it. It would be horrible that we need to look over the donor section for Secondmile;
http://www.thesecondmile.org/pdf/AnnualReport2010.pdf


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 11, 2011, 06:54:24 AM
   Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky?
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: tcumom on November 11, 2011, 08:02:10 AM
   Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky?
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html
Excellent article.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 08:25:44 AM
Mike McQueary was afraid to top Sandusky from sexually assaulting a young boy in the showers on campus but broke up a knife fight between students in the dining hall.  That tells me exactly what his fear was, and it wasn't physical retaliation.  He was afraid for his job and his master's degree imo.

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2011/11/mike_mcqueary_he_says_that_he_saw_jerry_sandusky_sexually_assault_a_child_why_does_he_still_have_a_job_at_penn_state_.html
<snip>
On March 1, 2002, Mike McQueary allegedly walked into the Penn State locker room and saw Jerry Sandusky raping a young boy. According to the grand jury report in the Sandusky case, McQueary—then a 28-year-old graduate assistant for the Nittany Lions football team—“left immediately, distraught.” McQueary then called his father, who advised him to tell coach Joe Paterno what he’d seen.
<snip>

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html
<snip>
McQueary is a guy who once stepped in and broke up a player-related knife fight in a campus dining hall — a fight police admit could have been very ugly. But this week, he is getting blasted by the public for doing too little.
<snip>


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 08:29:52 AM
   Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky?
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html
Excellent article.

ITA 
Thank you for posting it alagary. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 11, 2011, 08:39:06 AM
I'm sorry if my reply to you about the age of Mike McQueary came off badly, KittyMom.  I didn't see the previous post, and after I read mine, it sounded snarky.   ::MonkeyKiss::
Oh, that's ok.  I let my emotions get the best of me with this case.  A few years ago we had an incident locally with a high school.  As my husband and I support the local children's advocacy center, we were aware of things that others weren't.  Long story short, the kid was promised a scholarship to keep his mouth shut.  It didn't involve a coach, just his wife. <insert eyeroll>  But still.  Things like this really upset me.  Adults shouldn't take advantage of children.  The rape doesn't stop with the act, the kids then get abused again by the people who should be protecting them, imo.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 11, 2011, 08:43:40 AM
Curated Selection Of Jerry Sandusky’s Writings From The Annual Reports/b]

" The questions about what exactly The Second Mile knew about Sandusky's behavior and why people there didn't act on that knowledge sooner will, hopefully, be answered as the charity gets the bejeezus subpoenaed out of it."
http://deadspin.com/5858461/a-curated-selection-of-jerry-sanduskys-writings-from-the-annual-reports-of-his-youth-charity


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 09:04:18 AM
I'm sorry if my reply to you about the age of Mike McQueary came off badly, KittyMom.  I didn't see the previous post, and after I read mine, it sounded snarky.   ::MonkeyKiss::
Oh, that's ok.  I let my emotions get the best of me with this case.  A few years ago we had an incident locally with a high school.  As my husband and I support the local children's advocacy center, we were aware of things that others weren't.  Long story short, the kid was promised a scholarship to keep his mouth shut.  It didn't involve a coach, just his wife. <insert eyeroll>  But still.  Things like this really upset me.  Adults shouldn't take advantage of children.  The rape doesn't stop with the act, the kids then get abused again by the people who should be protecting them, imo.

BBM
I absolutely agree with you KittyMom.  And I thank you and your husband for supporting your local children's advocacy center. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 09:05:28 AM
Curated Selection Of Jerry Sandusky’s Writings From The Annual Reports/b]

" The questions about what exactly The Second Mile knew about Sandusky's behavior and why people there didn't act on that knowledge sooner will, hopefully, be answered as the charity gets the bejeezus subpoenaed out of it."
http://deadspin.com/5858461/a-curated-selection-of-jerry-sanduskys-writings-from-the-annual-reports-of-his-youth-charity

Indeed! 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 11, 2011, 09:18:11 AM
uSA today has a good piece on the victim that first reported the abuse.  Im on an ipad and dont know how to post from this thing.  Can someone else do it please?.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 11, 2011, 09:26:10 AM
"Victim 1" triggered investigation 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-11-10/jerry-sandusky-investigation-victim-1-cover/51160950/1


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 11, 2011, 10:19:35 AM
  Jerry Sandusky could face Texas charges related to bringing a boy to 1999 Alamo Bowl
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/jery_sandusky_could_face_texas.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 10:21:23 AM
http://www.chron.com/news/local_news/article/Penn-State-ex-coach-could-face-S-A-molestation-2263075.php
Penn State sex scandal reaches S.A.
November 10, 2011

 ::snipping2::
District Attorney Susan Reed and San Antonio Police Chief William McManus have discussed the possibility of building a criminal case against Sandusky stemming from his visit to San Antonio with the Penn State team in 1999 for the Alamo Bowl, authorities confirmed Thursday.

“We are investigating the possibility that an offense may have happened while here in San Antonio,” Sgt. Chris Benavides, a spokesman for the Police Department, said in a one-sentence statement.


Like the general public, San Antonio authorities learned of the allegations through the 23-page indictment issued against Sandusky by a Pennsylvania grand jury.

In it, a person referred to as “Victim 4,” now 27, said he met Sandusky when he was 13 or 14 through a nonprofit organization the coach started for at-risk youths. He was touched inappropriately on numerous occasions on the Penn State campus and in hotel rooms in that state, the indictment alleges. But he also traveled with the team to away games, even appearing once next to Sandusky in a Sports Illustrated photo.

“Victim 4 was listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl and the 1999 Alamo Bowl,” the indictment states. “... Sandusky did threaten to send him home from the Alamo Bowl in Texas when Victim 4 resisted his advances.”

That game, Sandusky's last before retirement, ended with his players carrying him off the field following a victory over Texas A&M, the San Antonio Express-News reported at the time.

After his retirement, Sandusky took on emeritus status at the university and retained an office on campus. In 2002, head football coach Joe Paterno was told by a graduate assistant coach that Sandusky was seen naked in the showers having sex with what appeared to be a 10-year-old boy, the grand jury report states.

Paterno, who was fired Wednesday after a storied career, told the university's athletic director about that allegation at the time but the incident never was reported to police, the grand jury determined.

There is no statute of limitations in Texas for sexual assault of a child, First Assistant District Attorney Cliff Herberg said Thursday.

The main issue likely will be seeing if there still is enough evidence to bring a charge after more than a decade has passed, he said.

“We've still got to at least conduct the investigation and see what kind of evidence we've got,” Herberg said, adding that it will be up to the Police Department to determine whether local charges should be filed. “We know the same thing that everybody else knows. This is really in the nature of a preliminary inquiry.”

Herberg said Reed and McManus discussed the matter Tuesday.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 11, 2011, 10:26:04 AM
And the Alamo bowl trip happened after the 98 investigation. Are we supposed to believe that no one on the entire trip noticed it wrong that sicko was traveling with yet another child?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 10:32:56 AM
And the Alamo bowl trip happened after the 98 investigation. Are we supposed to believe that no one on the entire trip noticed it wrong that sicko was traveling with yet another child?

Exactly. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 11, 2011, 11:53:32 AM
And the Alamo bowl trip happened after the 98 investigation. Are we supposed to believe that no one on the entire trip noticed it wrong that sicko was traveling with yet another child?

Exactly. 


Not necessarily.  By the end of 1999, the case had been dropped; any rumors would have been subdued because there was no prosecution.  Additionally, his wife was on the Alamo trip.

The Grand Jury report sketches a methodical, slick person—who had developed a successful pattern.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 11, 2011, 12:12:57 PM
RUMOR? Mark Madden Says, Former Penn St Coach Jerry Sandusky ‘Pimping Out Young Boys to Rich Donors
Posted November 11, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/11/11/rumor-mark-madden-says-former-penn-st-coach-jerry-sandusky-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 11, 2011, 12:15:26 PM
The code of silence has not been about protecting the integrity of the University. The integrity of the University would be intact today if the “powers that be” within the University had held Jerry Sandusky accountable at the getgo.

The entire story has yet to be revealed. IMO

Janet

+++++++

A Patriot-News Special Report: Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky?
Published: Friday, November 11, 2011, 12:19 AM
Updated: Friday, November 11, 2011, 8:02


<snipped>

McQueary is a guy who once stepped in and broke up a player-related knife fight in a campus dining hall — a fight police admit could have been very ugly. But this week, he is getting blasted by the public for doing too little.

That same public sentiment led to an abrupt exit for legendary coach Paterno and Spanier.

But if gossip, rumor and speculation have been rampant this week about Spanier, Paterno and McQueary, the facts are more complicated — and much more disturbing.

<snipped>

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 12:18:51 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Penn-State-top-recurit-will-not-attend-school-111011/?ocid=ansfox11
Report: Top recruit will not attend PSU
November 11, 2011

 
WINDSOR, Colo.

A standout high school offensive lineman from Colorado has turned his back on his verbal commitment to attend Penn State, becoming the first recruit the school has lost because of the ongoing sex scandal that has rocked the university to its core, the Coloradoan reported.
Joey O'Connor, a 6-foot-5, 297-pound senior, told the newspaper Thursday that he had de-committed so he could focus on the rest of his high school season with Windsor High.

"It's been a real struggle, just getting all this thrown in my face just before the playoffs," he said. "The only time I can get away from it is at football practice. I only forget about it when I step on that field."

He said other coaches had already been in touch and that he was now considering a range of schools, including South Carolina, Arizona, Arizona State, the University of Colorado, Colorado State University, California, UCLA and Washington State.

Surprisingly, O'Connor told the Coloradoan he would also still consider recommitting to Penn State.

"I'm not saying that I've completely ruled [Penn State] out, but I don't know what's going to happen there in the next couple months," he said. "The waiting and not knowing what's going to happen has been the biggest factor [in the decision]."

O'Connor is one of the country's best high school offensive tackles and was considered the Nittany Lions top recruit.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 12:37:03 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/11/11/penn-state-joe-paterno-culture/?xid=cnnbin
Penn State tragedy shows danger of making coaches false idols
November 11, 2011




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 01:17:29 PM
It looks to me like Franco Harris has his football blinders on.  JMHO

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16076958/franco-harris-defends-paterno-mcqueary-blasts-trustees
Franco Harris defends Paterno, McQueary, blasts trustees
November 11, 2011

Former Pittsburgh Steelers running back and Penn State alum Franco Harris blasted the school's Board of Trustees for its decision to fire Joe Paterno and defended Mike McQueary, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

"I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go," Harris told the Tribune-Review's Kevin Gorman. "I'm very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time. They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.

"They really wouldn't give a reason. They're linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover-up. That's very disturbing to me. I think there should be no more connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach. I'm still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract."

 ::snipping2::
Harris also criticized state police commissioner Frank Noonan for saying Paterno had a "moral obligation" to contact police when told of the incident, according to the report.

"When I heard that, it blew my mind," Harris said. "Why would they bring the moral into the legal? Now, everyone gets to interpret in their own way. That's what really bothers me: Joe did what was right for him to do. He forwarded the information to his superiors. That's the legal procedure at Penn State.  
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"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands-down, no contest every time."

Harris also told the paper he was "bothered" by criticism of the handling of the situation by McQueary, who witnessed a boy he estimated to being 10 years old getting violated by Sandusky anally in the showers. McQueary, according to grand jury testimony, left the showers distraught, then went to his office and called his father, who told him to go home. The next day, the pair reported the incident to Paterno.

"People make fun of the fact that Mike went to his father, like a little kid," Harris said. "Because somebody went to a confidant, why is that childish? How Mike handled that situation, there is nothing I can comment on. People are different. Some people would have bashed [Sandusky's] head in. Mike followed procedure. Because some people higher up didn't do their job, he's suffering the consequences."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 11, 2011, 02:46:06 PM
When a 28 year old Mike McQueary failed to take immediate action to protect a child who he observed in the process of being raped by 57 year old Jerry Sandusky ... he may have been within the letter of the law.  However ... if that little boy had been Mike's younger bother ... I am darn sure that one way or another ... no child would again have been at risk by the sick desires of Sandusky.

The same goes for Joe Paterno if the little boy had been his grandson.

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 11, 2011, 03:09:25 PM
Also ... Mike McQueary and Joe Paterno had over a decade to personally take action to right the wrong against this little boy who was raped by Jerry Sandusky but both made the choice to do nothing.

Hey ... prestige standings within the University's football program and lucrative salaries "may" have been at risk if the truth had been revealed but ... so what!!  Personal integrity would have been restored.  What a lasting legacy to leave those students!  What a lasting legacy to leave your family!

Janet

+++++

Matthew 16:26
And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul? Is anything worth more than your soul?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 11, 2011, 03:15:15 PM
Ok...enough with calling this a sex scandal.  That has got to stop.


I haven't read anywhere that Sandusky's home computer was seized.  Anyone else? 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 11, 2011, 03:22:44 PM
Still on the ipad so i cant link it, but the sister of the shower victim was interviewed by pennlive.  Her comments are interesting as she is currently a student at Penn State.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 11, 2011, 03:53:21 PM
What do we do with all this?  How do we balance the rights?

.  How do we make the system work better?

No, I don’t believe Sandusky is innocent.  In fact, he should have been jailed and under suicide watch, mo.  Sandusky is the epicenter of a quake and tsunami.  Pluck Sandusky out of the picture and there is nothing happening.  Put him back in the picture and there’s chaos.  All of it surrounds Jerry.

In 2000, the janitor saw something, spoke about it; nothing happened.  It’s sad that the information didn’t go farther; I don’t blame the janitor.  The janitor was very upset.  Did the janitor even know who the adult was?  Looks like the incident may have impacted the rest of his life.  The janitor is not to blame.  The actions of one individual are to blame.

Could the janitor have done more?  Certainly.  Was he threatened?  Indications are that he could have been threatened.  Sandusky appears to have made two slow trips through the parking lot afterwards.  He was seen both times.  (Grand Jury Report)

There are very few people close to the situation who couldn’t have done more.  However, if the adopted son hadn’t complained; if the mother (1998) hadn’t complained; if the janitor hadn’t told someone; if McQueary hadn’t told Paterno, who told Curley/Schultz; if the latest known victim hadn’t complained . . . Sandusky would able to continue,        un-TOUCHED.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 11, 2011, 03:57:15 PM
Quote
Gricar and Sandusky
By Joe Mandak — The Associated Press
Posted: 2:50pm on Nov 11, 2011; Modified: 3:16pm on Nov 11, 2011

 
This photo of former Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar was taken in March 2005, just a few weeks before he disappeared. CDT/2005 FILE PHOTO — CDT/2005 file photo

STATE COLLEGE — The man investigating the 2005 disappearance of a central Pennsylvania prosecutor doesn’t believe it is linked to the prosecutor’s 1998 decision to not file child-sex charges against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.
Still, Bellefonte police Det. Matthew Rickard tells The Associated Press he’ll review how Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar handled the 1998 allegations — just to be thorough.


Read more: http://www.centredaily.com/2011/11/11/2982886/police-no-link-between-long-missing.html#ixzz1dQrH6oEA


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 11, 2011, 05:00:59 PM
Penn State puts wide receivers' coach on leave

November 11th, 2011

[Updated at 4:18 p.m. ET] Mike McQueary - the Penn State coach who told head coach Joe Paterno about a child sex abuse allegation involving a former coach in 2002 - has been placed on administrative leave, interim school President Rodney Ericson said Friday.

The leave is "indefinite," Ericson said.

McQueary, who coaches the team's wide receivers, was a 28-year-old graduate assistant when he told Paterno of the allegation in 2002.

The scandal revolves around Jerry Sandusky, the football team's former defensive coordinator who is accused of sexually assaulting children. The scandal has led to the departure of four top university figures, including Paterno, amid widespread outrage over their perceived failure to contact police.


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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/11/penn-state-trustees-consider-panel-to-investigate-sex-abuse-allegations/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 07:28:00 PM
Ok...enough with calling this a sex scandal.  That has got to stop.


I haven't read anywhere that Sandusky's home computer was seized.  Anyone else? 

BBM  ITA it's not a "sex scandal".  Children were forced into sex acts with an adult. 

No KittyMom, I haven't read anywhere that Sandusky's home computer was seized.  Anyone else?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 07:39:58 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57323072/sandusky-victim-1-called-hero-for-speaking-out/
Sandusky "Victim 1" called hero for speaking out
November 11, 2011

(CBS News)

The grand jury presentment accusing former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky of being a sexual predator of young boys from a youth charity he helped found is a graphic telling of repeated serial assaults on victimized children.

In the presentment, "Victim 1" first came into contact with Sandusky via The Second Mile, a charity for disadvantaged youth. At about age 12 or 13 the boy first met Sandusky, and claims being sexually abused by him beginning in 2005 or 2006, after being offered gifts such as clothing and NFL game tickets.

But Victim 1 was not the first victim. According to the grand jury, he was merely the first victim to come forward.

The boy showed "courage" that others - including adults in positions of power at the university - did not in dealing with Sandusky, a revered former coach who still had access to campus facilities, Michael Gillum, the victim's psychologist, told USA Today.

"Had this individual not come forward, this investigation may not have happened. Who knows how many people he saved from abuse?
"He's a hero. That is the truth," said Gillum.

An investigation by the state attorney general's office began in early 2009 after a teenage boy ("Victim 1") told authorities that Sandusky inappropriately touched him several times during a four-year period.

The graphic presentment tells of Sandusky fondling the boy and repeatedly sexually assaulting him when the boy stayed in the basement at Sandusky's home. Sandusky also visited the boy at his school, calling him out of class for unmonitored time in a conference room. (As a volunteer coach Sandusky had unfettered access to the school.) A wrestling coach at a Clinton County high school testified that he discovered Sandusky and the boy lying together on mats in a weight room after hours; Sandusky claimed that he and the boy were "working on wrestling moves."

An assistant principal who characterized Sandusky as "very controlling" in his mentoring relationships with students - as well as "clingy" and "needy" when a student broke off contact - said Sandusky was barred from the school district after Victim 1's mother called to notify the school, and authorities were contacted.

Phone records show 188 phone calls place by Sandusky to Victim 1's home between January 2008 and July 2009. The boy, who did not want to engage in sexual contact with Sandusky would ask his mother to tell the coach he was not home. The boy eventually told school officials there was "an issue" involving Sandusky but would not clarify.

A school official reportedly informed the boy's mother of Sandusky's reputation in the community and, Gillum recalled, described the coach as having "a heart of gold." The mother reported her concerns to the Clinton County Children and Youth Services where Gillum worked.

Gillum said after his discussions with the victim he assembled a report which he referred to state youth authorities and state police.

"Had it not been for this individual, my guess is that none of this (Sandusky probe) would have happened," Gillum told USA Today.
How far back go the allegations of abuse - and the tendency to ignore them?
 ::snipping2::

(This 2 page article goes on to explain the rest of each of the other 6 victims and the events that transpired.)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 08:12:32 PM
http://www.wgal.com/r/29750826/detail.html
Sandusky Courted Recruits As Late As 2010
South Carolina Recruit Crosses PSU Off List
November 11, 2011

PITTSBURGH -- Former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky remained as a de facto recruiter for the Nittany Lions as late as last summer.

The father of a South Carolina high school player says Sandusky attended a football camp for players of Polynesian descent in Utah last year and encouraged players to play for coach Joe Paterno.

Sandusky made the trip even as a grand jury investigated claims of sexual abuse by the former coach. Sandusky is now charged with molesting eight boys over a 15-year period.

Otto Ah Ching says his son Adam, a linebacker at Greer (S.C.) High, put Penn State on his list of possible schools after speaking to Sandusky. Ah Ching has since crossed Penn State off his list of possible schools, a problem that could grow.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 08:37:04 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/a-week-of-campus-turmoil-over-sex-abuse-scandal-robs-penn-state-of-festive-football-weekend/2011/11/11/gIQAR7fODN_story.html
A week of campus turmoil over sex abuse scandal robs Penn State of festive football weekend
November 11, 2011

One sentence sticks out for me in this article:
<snip>
New president Rod Erickson plans to appoint an ethics officer, and said the school will review all standards, policies and programs to ensure they meet “not only the law, but Penn State’s standard.”
<snip>


From the way things look from my perspective, Penn State seemed to act as though they were they law, that they knew best. There's an article I read today where Franco Harris says "He forwarded the information to his superiors.  That's the legal procedure at Penn State."



http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16076958/franco-harris-defends-paterno-mcqueary-blasts-trustees
<snip>
Harris also criticized state police commissioner Frank Noonan for saying Paterno had a "moral obligation" to contact police when told of the incident, according to the report.
"When I heard that, it blew my mind," Harris said. "Why would they bring the moral into the legal? Now, everyone gets to interpret in their own way. That's what really bothers me: Joe did what was right for him to do. He forwarded the information to his superiors. That's the legal procedure at Penn State.   
<snip>

So, does this mean Penn State really has "legal procedures?"  If so, do Penn State's legal procedures supercede the laws of the city, county state and etc., such as reporting the incidence of sexual abuse of a child you were witness to?   Sad. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 11, 2011, 09:55:22 PM

Obama: Penn State abuse cause for 'soul-searching'

Associated Press | November 11, 2011 09:45 PM EST | AP

CORONADO, Calif. — President Barack Obama says the Penn State sex-abuse scandal should lead to "soul-searching" by all Americans, not just Penn State.

"Obviously what happened was heartbreaking, especially for the victims, the young people who got affected by these alleged assaults," he told Westwood One radio in an interview Friday night. "And I think it's a good time for the entire country to do some soul-searching – not just Penn State. People care about sports, it's important to us, but our No. 1 priority has to be protecting our kids. And every institution has to examine how they operate, and every individual has to take responsibility for making sure that our kids are protected."

The Penn State scandal has cost several university officials their jobs, most notably longtime football coach Joe Paterno, who was faulted for not alerting police after he was told about alleged sex abuse by a former assistant coach.

Obama said that the scandal shows that "you can't just rely on bureaucracy and systems in these kinds of situations. People have to step forward, they have to be tapping into just their core decency." When kids are mistreated – or anyone, for that matter – "all of us have to step up, we don't leave it to somebody else to take responsibility."

 ::snipping2::

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20111111/us-obama-paterno/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 10:15:30 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/11/sandusky-made-457g-after-pennsylvania-charity-learned-allegations-tax-records/?intcmp=trending
Sandusky Made $457G From Pennsylvania Charity Despite Child Sex Allegations, Tax Records Show
November 11, 2011

(http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/News/396/223/sanduskyreturn640.jpg) Annual compensation of $57,000 for Jerry Sandusky is shown, according to this 2003 tax document. Those payments continued through 2008, some 10 years after an alleged victim said he showered with Sandusky at Penn State's Holuba Hall.

A Pennsylvania charity founded by Jerry Sandusky continued to pay the former Penn State defensive coordinator a consulting fee totaling nearly $500,000 over eight years, tax documents show, despite an attorney who reportedly worked with the charity knowing Sandusky faced child sex abuse allegations.
Sandusky now is charged with a series of sexual assaults in a scandal at Penn State that prompted the university this week to oust its president and legendary football coach Joe Paterno. Two other campus officials faces charges of failing to notify police of alleged assaults occurring on campus.
Sandusky founded his charity, The Second Mile, in 1977 as a group foster home dedicated to helping troubled boys. In 2001, the charity began paying Sandusky an annual "consulting" fee of $57,000, tax documents reviewed by FoxNews.com show. The fees added up to $457,000 over eight years.

In November 2008, Sandusky informed the charity that he had learned he was being investigated as a result of allegations made against him by a young man in Pennsylvania's Clinton County. The consulting fees abruptly ended after 2008.
 ::snipping2::
"Although he maintained there was no truth to the claims, we are an organization committed first and foremost to the safety and well-being of the children we serve," according to a statement on the organization's website. "Consistent with that commitment and with The Second Mile policy, we immediately made the decision to separate him from all of our program activities involving children. Thus, from 2008 to present, Mr. Sandusky has had no involvement with Second Mile programs involving children."

But in 1998, according to a grand jury report, Victim No. 6, who is now 24, told his mother he had showered with Sandusky in Penn State's Holuba Hall. Wendell Courtney, Penn State's general counsel, reviewed that report on behalf of the university before submitting it to then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar.

Courtney reportedly also represented The Second Mile at the time.


Courtney didn't respond to FoxNews.com's request for comment for this story, though on Wednesday, he told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that he did not begin to represent The Second Mile until early 2009, calling reports to the contrary "factually incorrect." He told the Post-Gazette that he didn't inform the Second Mile a sexual abuse investigation had been conducted at Penn State, and he withdrew as the organization's counsel on Monday over conflict of interest concerns.

A spokesman for Attorney General Linda Kelly, however, disputed Courtney's claim.

"It's clear from the findings of the grand jury that Mr. Courtney had direct dealings with both Penn State and The Second Mile, and he had knowledge and was aware of the 1998 incident," spokesman Nils Frederiksen told the newspaper.

Meanwhile, The Second Mile's CEO, Jack Raykovitz, has earned more than $1.3 million since 1998. Raykovitz was informed in 2002 by Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley -- who is now on paid administrative leave and faces criminal charges -- that an individual had reported to Curley that he was uncomfortable about seeing Sandusky in the locker room shower with a young boy.

"Mr. Curley also shared that the information had been internally reviewed and that there was no finding of wrongdoing," read a statement on The Second Mile's website. "At no time was The Second Mile made aware of the very serious allegations contained in the Grand Jury report."


Curley and university vice president Gary Schultz have been charged with perjury and failure to report the 2002 assault to police, as was required by state law. Along with Sandusky, both men maintain their innocence.


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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 10:47:05 PM
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/penn-state-sex-assault-alleged-in-texas
Penn State sex assault alleged in Texas
Silence in sex assaults common, but laws differ

November 11, 2011

AUSTIN (KXAN) - San Antonio police are investigating the possibility that one of Jerry Sandusky’s alleged sex assaults took place while Penn State was preparing for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.

Sandusky brought “Victim No. 4” along for the trip, but threatened to send him home if he resisted sexual advances, according to the sexually explicit grand jury report.

The lack of communication and proper action that has marred the Penn State child sex assault case is not uncommon in similar crimes against children.

The law, however, is quite different in Texas.

“Under Texas law, you are required to make that report,” said Detective Joel Pridgeon with Austin Police Department’s Child Abuse Unit.

In the Penn State grand jury report, a graduate assistant who witnesses one of the sexual assaults happening notified Joe Paterno, but not police or child protective services.

In Texas, that would qualify as a class A misdemeanor:

Texas Penal Code …

Sec. 38.17.  FAILURE TO STOP OR REPORT AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT OF CHILD.  (a)  A person, other than a person who has a relationship with a child described by Section 22.04(b), commits an offense if:

(1)  the actor observes the commission or attempted commission of an offense prohibited by Section 21.02 or 22.021(a)(2)(B) under circumstances in which a reasonable person would believe that an offense of a sexual or assaultive nature was being committed or was about to be committed against the child;

(2)  the actor fails to assist the child or immediately report the commission of the offense to a peace officer or law enforcement agency; and

(3)  the actor could assist the child or immediately report the commission of the offense without placing the actor in danger of suffering serious bodily injury or death.

(b)  An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2011, 11:18:08 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/12/sports/ncaafootball/penn-state-officials-including-paterno-could-face-civil-lawsuits.html
Penn State Officials, Including Paterno, Could Face Civil Lawsuits
November 11, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 11, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/central-florida-connections-found-penn-state-sandu/nFbtT/

Central Florida connections found in Penn State Sandusky child rape scandal

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WFTV discovered Sandusky visited the Citrus Bowl and Walt Disney World with his family. The visits were detailed in his book, "Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story."

Sandusky wrote about the visits with his family, including his son Matt -- the boy Sandusky adopted from the Second Mile Foundation, who made the first allegations of abuse in 1995.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 12, 2011, 12:11:26 AM
 http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-jerry-sandusky-scandal-tracked-back-1995-coach-s-adopted-son-report-article-1.976557?localLinksEnabled=false

Penn State Jerry Sandusky scandal could be tracked back to 1995 with coach’s adopted son: report

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-jerry-sandusky-scandal-tracked-back-1995-coach-s-adopted-son-report-article-1.976557#ixzz1dSrs1YEL



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
I really, really wish media would stop calling what happened to the child sex abuse victims a scandal.  It's more of a tragedy, at least.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3480_162-57323606/penn-state-students-hold-candlelight-vigil/
Penn State students hold candlelight vigil
November 11, 2011

(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/11/12/PaSt_vigil_AP111111140294_620x350.jpg)
November 12, 2011 8:41 AM
People hold candles during a candlelight vigil in front of the Old Main building on the Penn State Campus Friday, Nov. 11, 2011 in State College, Pa. The vigil was held in support of the alleged victims of a child sex abuse scandal involving a former assistant coach. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

(CBS/AP)

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - Thousands came together on the campus of Penn State Friday evening for a candlelight vigil and a moment of silence in support of the alleged victims in the child sex abuse scandal roiling the university.

The scandal, centered around former defensive coach Jerry Sandusky, has so far resulted in a widespread housecleaning that has already cost four people their jobs.

"Never again should anyone at Penn State, regardless of their position, feel scared to do the right thing," said Interim president Rodney Erickson. "It will take all of us some time to come to grips with the full magnitude of all the damage that has been done."

Sara Ganim, a reporter with the State College Patriot News, told "The Early Show on Saturday Morning" that the mood on campus last night was different from a normal pre-football Friday night: "It was quiet. It was solemn," she said. "The mood on campus was much different than in the past couple of days where there has been rowdiness and students taking a lot of criticism for their behavior. Last night, it was very well-behaved and solemn, quiet clapping after several speakers.

"In the back, behind those several thousand students with all of those candles, there were police on horses, so the presence and the idea of what has been going on here this week was still very much known."

The vigil was organized by students in the wake of a shocking grand jury report that accuses a retired assistant football coach of repeatedly sexually assaulting boys, sometimes at university facilities. It suggested that school officials didn't aggressively investigate or report the activity.

As a result, university trustees forced out the school's president, Graham Spanier. They also fired storied football coach Joe Paterno, which touched off a violent student demonstration on campus Wednesday night, requiring police clad in riot gear to disperse the students, at times with pepper spray.

The vigil in front of Penn State's "Old Main" administration building drew students, alumni and teachers. They observed a moment of silence after the bell tolled at 10 p.m. and listened to several speakers, including former college All-American linebacker LaVar Arrington, an a cappella group singing "Imagine" and the school marching band.

It was largely solemn until it ended with an ear-shattering series of "We are ... Penn State!" — helping a group of people who felt like they had lost a hero — Paterno — to have something to rally around.

"Having that taken away from us made us feel lost," said junior Leah Blasko of Pittsburgh. "Tonight really gave us a place to put ourselves back together."

One speaker, 2007 graduate Dustin Yenser, encouraged victims to know that they had the support of the campus despite having been failed by people who he believed had an obligation to protect them. And Arrington urged attendees to use the scandal as a challenge.

"Let it be known that we waged war to make a difference," Arrington said. "Leave here tonight with a resolve and an understanding that you possess the power to change things."

The seeds of the student-organized vigil began even before the Wednesday night violence. Penn State senior and organizer Jessica Sever said she read the grand jury report Monday night and woke up disgusted, feeling as though something needed to be done and wanting to put the focus back on the victims, not Spanier or Paterno.

"What I really want to focus on is the victims right now," Sever said. "We really need some positivity, because there is none right here."
 ::snipping2::

McQueary told players by phone Friday that he was in a secluded location outside State College, The Harrisburg Patriot-News reported.

Last night, head coach Joe Paterno's son Jay issued a statement on behalf of his father. It said, in part, "he is absolutely distraught over what happened to the children and their families, and he also wants very much to speak publicly and answer questions."

Coach Paterno has hired a top criminal defense attorney out of Washington, D.C., a man who once represented former President George H.W. Bush in the Iran-Contra scandal.

Extra security will be on hand at the game and students have been warned that any uncivil action will not be tolerated.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 12, 2011, 10:40:16 AM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/11/joe-paterno-fired-2.html

Sister of one of Jerry Sandusky's alleged victims feels tortured

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The sister of one of Jerry Sandusky's alleged molestation victims is a junior at Penn State. She says she feels ill when she hears her classmates joke about being "Sanduskied" and make light of a situation that has devastated her family.

 ::MonkeyMad::

Did this young ladies family not try to steer her away from this school?  I don't think I could've let my child go knowing what had happened with her sibling.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 12, 2011, 10:52:01 AM
These students need a wake up call.  They are acting stupidly.  It's almost like they are in grammar school.  The faculty needs to start having meetings immediately with all the students and lay it all out on the line telling them this is no joke and whoever is making jokes will be thrown out.  Also, all the parents of these students need step up also.

I don't give a crap about Joe Paterno and his legacy.  The children are more important and it happened under his watch and it was one of his coaches.  In my opinion he didn't do enough and this is why he is not here.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
I wouldn't give Jerry Sandusky a penny!  He made a ton of money through his job as assistant coach and through his Second Mile program. There's an article in this thread that addresses that.   And yes, he may need a lot of money for legal defense, but that's not because an accident befell him, it's through his own evil, abusive, sexual predator acts!  Donating money to Sandusky's defense?!  That's not rallying around their program, it's giving financial assitance to a repeat sexual child abuser!   What about his victims?   ::MonkeyMad:: 

http://www.kvue.com/news/Former-Nittany-Lions-rally-around-program-133704828.html
Former Nittany Lions rally around program
November 12, 2011

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Former Nittany Lions receiver and running back Rich Mauti organized what he hopes will be one of the largest gatherings of former players to stand on the sideline ever. On Saturday, vs. Nebraska in the home finale, they will join in unison.

Mauti sent emails to more than 800 former Nittany Lions and asked them to attend. He wants players who took pride in wearing the school's classic blue-and-white uniforms, and still carry that pride in their everyday lives. He wants them to return their thanks to a program - not just a coach - that gave them so much.

"It's for the kids that have to go out there on Saturday," said Mauti, who played under Joe Paterno from 1974-1976 and went on to play in the NFL. "It's a show of support for that. It's not going to be banners and flags and bands. It's going to be the Penn State Way. It's going to be our presence. Hopefully, we get enough guys there that will mean something."

Mauti emphasized he's not forgetting or minimizing the scandal and possible cover-up centered on former assistant and one-time heir apparent Jerry Sandusky.

"I'm not condoning any activities that have been alleged. That's not the purpose," he said. "I'm trying to get everyone that has been through that program, that has had a positive experience, to support the kids and the program and the school at this juncture."

By midweek, Mauti said about 75 players had agreed to attend.

Former Penn State linebacker Buddy Tesner said he will be there to watch a game between two teams jostling for a Big Ten divisional title. Tesner played from 1971-75 and went on to found the Football Letterman's Club. The mission of the club is to promote Penn State football, improve communication, expand merchandising, and increase membership among former Penn State players and managers.

He said the time is right to stand behind the program.

"I think it's a great idea to rally the troops to support the team as much as anyone else," he said. "At the same time, we're being very careful to make sure that we respect and understand the families that have been affected by all this. We're not making a statement of innocence or guilt."

No, but another former Nittany Lion said he hasn't forgotten Sandusky, even as the former assistant coach stands accused of having sex with young boys.

Sam Stellatella, a three-position player in the 1950s, has donated money to Sandusky's defense and urged other former players to do the same.


"I told him he's going to need a million dollars to defend himself," the 73-year-old Stellatella said. "He called me back and said, `What am I going to do with this money?' I said, `Use it for your lawyer because you're going to need it.'"

Stellatella sent Sandusky $100. He wrote personal letters to other members of the 1959 Liberty Bowl team that defeated a Bear Bryant-coached Alabama team and asked they also donate. He does not know how much money was raised.

"I know some of the guys sent money," he told The Associated Press. "Here's the thing, these are horrendous charges against him. But he's still entitled to his day in court. Everybody's prejudged him. He's done horrendous damage to Paterno and (athletic director Tim) Curley and the football program. I don't listen to the news and I don't read the reports of what he did because I would get too upset.

"But he's still entitled to his day in court."

That's a lone stance among a group of players who have been quick to distance themselves from Sandusky.

Brad Benson, a former Penn State offensive lineman who won a Super Bowl with the New York Giants, was not invited to attend the game. He said he wouldn't go anyway - and had no problem with his fellow former Nittany Lions presenting a unified front - as long as they remembered the true victims of this case.

"I sure wouldn't want it be a show of solidarity for Joe," he said.


Benson spoke in anger about Paterno's actions and, more troubling, the reaction of unruly students who toppled a television news van, rioted and attempted arson after a peaceful demonstration Wednesday night turned ugly.

"There are people right now that are supporting Joe. They are rioting and doing things they shouldn't be doing," he said. "I equate these students that are rioting to the occupiers on New York City right now. They're not mature enough to understand why they're rioting. They weren't there when this happened. What are they protesting? They're protesting that someone with a tremendous responsibility failed to fulfill his moral responsibility and other people failed as well."

Tim Sweeney, president of the Letterman's Club, emphasized before Thursday's practice this movement was for the players.

Mauti, who has a son, Michael, on this season's team, wanted the Nittany Lions seniors to have at least one good feeling to take away one of the most horrific weeks in school history.

"They went there to get an education and play football. They didn't go there for this," he said. "It goes back to the basic fundamental lessons Joe has taught all of us. It's how you handle what happens to you that's really important. These kids are trying to handle this. It's not fun, it's not what they want to be doing. They're a tight, tight group. I think it's going to pull them all together.

"It's going to be a life lesson."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 12, 2011, 11:30:59 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Penn-State-Jerry-Sandusky-scandal-shows-that-Joe-Paterno-Mike-McQueary-needed-to-do-more-111111

Penn State should have aimed higher

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I am suspicious of people who take too much credit for playing by the rules, who use that as some sort of evidence of moral standing. It is not.

There was something more honest about the people who threw bricks through the window of Sandusky's house Friday. Not that I endorse that. But at least the feelings of rage are honest.

I'd hate to be LE in that town right now. I'd be torn about protecting this monster.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 12, 2011, 11:38:35 AM
The former players going to the game to support the present players is a nice gesture considering how their college experience has now been tarnished.  But for these elderly former players to be donating money WITHOUT reading any reports because it would upset them????  Where's the logic in that?  Pull your head out of the sand and donate money to those victimized by men like Sandusky.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 12, 2011, 11:39:30 AM
Brad Benson is spot-on:


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"There are people right now that are supporting Joe. They are rioting and doing things they shouldn't be doing," he said. "I equate these students that are rioting to the occupiers on New York City right now. They're not mature enough to understand why they're rioting. They weren't there when this happened. What are they protesting? They're protesting that someone with a tremendous responsibility failed to fulfill his moral responsibility and other people failed as well."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 12, 2011, 11:46:23 AM
These students need a wake up call.  They are acting stupidly.  It's almost like they are in grammar school.  The faculty needs to start having meetings immediately with all the students and lay it all out on the line telling them this is no joke and whoever is making jokes will be thrown out.  Also, all the parents of these students need step up also.

I don't give a crap about Joe Paterno and his legacy.  The children are more important and it happened under his watch and it was one of his coaches.  In my opinion he didn't do enough and this is why he is not here.

San ... I agree.

The commentary in its entirety is a must read.

Janet

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Don’t Be an Enabler — When a Child Is Abused, Here’s What to Do
By Michael Reagan
Published November 10, 2011


<snipped>

Coach, you knew back in 2002 that Jerry Sandusky had anally raped a ten-year-old boy in the Lasch Football Building. You handled the matter quietly with your athletic director, Tim Curley. You took away the rapist’s keys and barred him from the facility—but you didn’t call the police. You didn’t lift a finger to help the victim. No hindsight needed, coach. You screwed up.

Yes, we all know about your 61-year career at Penn State. But when you allow children to be victimized right under your nose, you wipe out 61 years of achievement. The Jerry Sandusky scandal is your legacy now. …

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/10/dont-be-enabler-when-child-is-abused-heres-what-to-do/



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 11:53:09 AM
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/133739768.html
Sex abuse scandal looms large in Happy Valley
November 12, 2011

By Joe Juliano, Mike Jensen and Kristen A. Graham STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - In a parking lot outside of Beaver Stadium here, a Penn State flag flew at half mast on Saturday morning.

A plane flying overhead pulled a "Pray for the Kids, Not the Cowards and Liars" banner.

In some ways, it was a typical pre-football game morning - crisp fall air, tailgaters gathering around hibachi grills, a sea of blue and white.

But the sex abuse scandal that has rocked the campus, ousted longtime coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier, and removed assistant coach Mike McQueary loomed large.

The university received an anonymous bomb threat for Beaver Stadium Friday night, authorities said, but security personnel and bomb-sniffing dogs who combed the stadium found nothing.

The FBI and the police are investigating.

A crowd of thousands gave a thunderous ovation to the Penn State team as they arrived at the stadium on buses.

Paterno's traditional seat - the front row, passenger side on the first bus - was vacant.

An emotional Jay Paterno was one of the first people to go through the tunnel.

Paterno, the team's quarterbacks coach and son of Joe Paterno, quickly blew through the phalanx of screaming fans behind fences on both sides of the path leading into the stadium. He almost ripped the arm off a guard who engaged him in a handshake.

Paterno has not commented on Wednesday night's firing of his father by the university's Board of Trustees.

Interim head coach Tom Bradley, who will be the first person to be in charge of a Nittany Lions football game since Paterno's first year of 1966, walked through the crowd looking businesslike and a bit bemused.

Bradley went directly into the stadium before going to the locker room, high-fiving students who had arrived early.

Quarterback Matt McGloin slapped as many hands as he could as he walked through the path.

Jay Paterno, who usually coaches from the booth in the press box, will be on the sideline Saturday sending in plays to the offense. That had been the job of former receivers coach McQueary, who was told Thursday he would not be coaching in the game, and was placed on paid administrative on Friday.

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Jay Paterno stopped briefly at his parents' house, telling reporters that "he had a job to do."

"We support you!" a man yelled at Jay Paterno as he walked up the sidewalk.

A young woman dropped off flowers outside the Paterno front door.

"WE LOVE YOU JOE," a gray-haired man wearing shorts yelled as he walked past the house.

One man angrily shouted at the small media contingent on the sidewalk across the street from the Paterno house.

"Why don't you go to Sandusky's house?" he yelled.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 12, 2011, 12:10:44 PM
Trying to watch a football game and they just brought tears to my macho eyes.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 12, 2011, 12:12:29 PM
These students need a wake up call.  They are acting stupidly.  It's almost like they are in grammar school.  The faculty needs to start having meetings immediately with all the students and lay it all out on the line telling them this is no joke and whoever is making jokes will be thrown out.  Also, all the parents of these students need step up also.

I don't give a crap about Joe Paterno and his legacy.  The children are more important and it happened under his watch and it was one of his coaches.  In my opinion he didn't do enough and this is why he is not here.

San ... I agree.

The commentary in its entirety is a must read.

Janet

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Don’t Be an Enabler — When a Child Is Abused, Here’s What to Do
By Michael Reagan
Published November 10, 2011


<snipped>

Coach, you knew back in 2002 that Jerry Sandusky had anally raped a ten-year-old boy in the Lasch Football Building. You handled the matter quietly with your athletic director, Tim Curley. You took away the rapist’s keys and barred him from the facility—but you didn’t call the police. You didn’t lift a finger to help the victim. No hindsight needed, coach. You screwed up.

Yes, we all know about your 61-year career at Penn State. But when you allow children to be victimized right under your nose, you wipe out 61 years of achievement. The Jerry Sandusky scandal is your legacy now. …

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/10/dont-be-enabler-when-child-is-abused-heres-what-to-do/


That is a must read Janet.  Thanks for pointing.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 12:13:16 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/horrifying-allegations-a-scandal-and-the-end-of-joe-paterno-penn-states-worst-week/2011/11/12/gIQAEYUEFN_story_1.html
Horrifying allegations, a scandal and the end of Joe Paterno: Penn State’s worst week
November 12, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 12:44:07 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/11/live-scene-penn-state-game-nebraska-joe-paterno-happy-valley/1
Live: The scene from Penn State's game against Nebraska
November 12, 2011

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The No. 12 Nittany Lions host No. 17 Nebraska at noon in what should be an emotionally charged atmosphere in State College. It's Senior Day and Penn State will be without Paterno on the sidelines as a coach or assistant for the first time since 1950.

Campus Rivalry will provide you with updates on the scene in State College before the game and updates once the ball is kicked off in Beaver Stadium.

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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 12:46:05 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/sports/ncaafootball/interim-coach-tom-bradley-may-well-lose-his-dream-job-soon.html
Interim Coach’s Situation Is ‘Very Unprecedented’
November 12, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 12, 2011, 12:51:47 PM
Those who feared that prestige positions within the University and huge take-home salaries would be at risk by doing what was morally right failed to comprehend the entire picture.

Janet

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"Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." = Steve Jobs

Credit: San


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 12, 2011, 12:56:21 PM
Never thought I would be putting Football links on here;
http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91452/1/watch-nebraska-vs-penn-st.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 04:13:10 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/penn_state/133745763.html
Shocking week ends with Penn State loss
November 12, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 12, 2011, 04:25:48 PM
(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/11/12/sports/web_photos/pennst_game_home153349.jpg)

Without Paterno, Penn State loses as rabid fans cry 'scapegoat'

By KEVIN FASICK, Post Correspondent
Last Updated: 3:49 PM, November 12, 2011
Posted: 11:51 AM, November 12, 2011


STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State's first game in 46 years without Joe Paterno as coach ended in a loss today, amid swirling support for JoPa on the field and in the stands.

"It's sad because the one person who should be here today isn't," said Jim Suydam, 53, an optometrist from Reading, PA, whose daughter attends Penn State.

He wore a T-shirt saying, "I [heart] Joe: Thanks for the memories - 62 years of great service."

The 12th-ranked Nittany Lions lost to No. 17 Nebraska, 17-14, before a packed crowd at Beaver Stadium, just days after the legendary coach was sacked in the aftermath of a child-sex scandal that has rocked the sports world.

"They're scapegoating him," said longtime Nittany Lion fan Lucious Sanford, 28, a banker from Brooklyn. "Joe got a bum deal -- he didn't do anything wrong."

A group of students dressed as Paterno , wearing his signature rolled-up khakis and dark glasses , and a family showed up in shorts that read, "We [heart] JoePa." The lawn at the coach's home had signs of support, including one that said simply, "Thanks Joe."

Bedford-Stuyvesant resident and Penn State fan Drick Smith, 41, said, "I'm outraged because of the way he's being treated. Joe was coach here before any of these people in the parking lot were even born."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/football/amid_sex_scandal_it_gameday_at_penn_PmQP5lii2Lt3jz2hwM45gK#ixzz1dWpVn3ex


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 12, 2011, 04:29:40 PM
I heard a guy on ESPN today say these students don't understand.  If you think it's bad now, wait until two weeks, one month, two months and then 5 months down the line.  He said this is going to get much worse.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 05:49:44 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/jerry_sanduskys_autobiography.html
Jerry Sandusky's autobiography, 'Touched,' is still available at The Penn State Bookstore
November 11, 2011

(Interesting  comments)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 06:20:48 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/sandusky-penn-state-scandal-cars/story?id=14916627
Penn State Sponsors Anxiously Watch How Events Unfold at University
November 12, 2011

Cars.com has withdrawn its sponsorship of ESPN's Saturday Afternoon College Football for the next two weeks, which includes Penn State games, making it one of the first companies to distance itself after the recent arrest of former defensive football coach Jerry Sandusky.

After a Penn State student riot over coach Joe Paterno's firing, the university may soon see more corporate sponsors rebelling against its brand.

A spokeswoman for Cars.com said that the move was "due to the recent allegations surrounding the Penn State football program."

"As a proud, longtime supporter of ESPN College Football, it's important to us that we're building our brand in a way that celebrates the sport, its fans and the dedication of its student athletes," she said in a statement.

The company said it worked with ESPN to redistribute its commercial ad units during these games.

The university-wide athletics program has dozens of sponsors, like Pepsi and AT&T, who are closely watching the university's next move. The school's football program is considered its crown jewel, bringing in $72 million a year, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Sponsors Chevrolet, PNC Financial, John Deere, State Farm Insurance, the American Red Cross and healthcare company Highmark told ABC News they are not jumping ship yet.
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It is too early to tell whether Penn State's corporate sponsors will bail on the university, said Scott Rosner, professor of legal studies and business ethics at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. Though the logo of paint company and Penn State sponsor Sherwin Williams was no longer on the press conference backdrop behind interim coach Tom Bradley on Thursday. Sherwin Williams did not return a request for comment.

Before the scandal broke on Saturday, Penn State was one of the most "undermonetized stars" in college sports, said Rosner, also associate director of Wharton's Sports Business Initiative.

"It was a paradigm with safe, conservative, and tremendous values that were the best of collegiate athletics," he said.

Pepsi has had a major partnership with Penn State, including a $14 million 10-year deal from 1992 that named it the official beverage on campus. Indra Nooyi, PepsiCo CEO since 2006, gave the Penn State commencement address in August 2010 and was awarded an honorary degree. The company didn't return a request for comment.
Unlike other college scandals that have been contained within a particular college sport, or a university athletic department, the Penn State scandal has broad university-wide implications because of possible irresponsibility from a university leader, he said. Rosner suggested one way the university can begin to help the situation is to donate its ticket sales from Saturday's football game to a charity for sexual abuse victims or a sexual abuse awareness campaign, or starting their own initiative. Penn State alums have already begun fundraising for victims of sex crimes.

Penn State did not return a request for comment.
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Rosner said some sponsors may not be able to exit from deals with the university unless their contracts included a "morals clause." A term like that would allow particular moral turpitude to void a sponsorship agreement.

But even if the football program were to lose all of the reported $72 million it receives from football ticket sales, fundraising and media deals with the Big Ten conference, Rosner said that is just a drop in the bucket compared with its reported $4 billion a year budget.

"Sponsors at root like to avoid controversy. The real question is whether Penn State is toxic yet," said Stephen Greyser, Harvard Business School professor emeritus specializing in the business of sports.
"Tiger Woods got toxic in a hurry," Greyser said of the pro golfer who took a break from competing as the media reported multiple alleged sexual affairs two years ago. Within the first three months of Wood's car accident that eventually led to stories of his affairs, AT&T, Accenture, and Gatorade dropped their sponsorship deals with the athlete. Gillette did not renew its endorsement deal with him when it ended in December 2010.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 12, 2011, 07:42:51 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal-just-got-costlier.html
Sex-abuse scandal just got costlier for Penn State
November 11, 2011

The Times' Walter Hamilton is reporting that the Jerry Sandusky sex-abuse allegations at Penn State could prove costly.

Here's a bit of what Hamilton had to report on the Money & Company blog:

Moody's Investors Service announced Friday that it may downgrade the university's credit rating in light of the lawsuits and other "reputational and financial risk" the school is likely to endure. The shocking allegations of abuse may scare away prospective students and anger deep-pocketed alumni who make large donations to the football powerhouse.

"While the full impact of these increased risks will only unfold over a period of years, we will also assess the degree of near and medium term risks to determine whether to downgrade the current Aa1 rating," Moody's said in a news release.

One risk is that Penn State's insurers may balk at footing the bill for settlements with victims. They potentially could argue that top school officials, including its now-exiled president, Graham Spanier, were aware for years of the abuses allegedly committed by the football team's former assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky, but took no action.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 12, 2011, 09:35:07 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/11/jerry-sandusky-penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal-just-got-costlier.html
Sex-abuse scandal just got costlier for Penn State
November 11, 2011

The Times' Walter Hamilton is reporting that the Jerry Sandusky sex-abuse allegations at Penn State could prove costly.

Here's a bit of what Hamilton had to report on the Money & Company blog:

Moody's Investors Service announced Friday that it may downgrade the university's credit rating in light of the lawsuits and other "reputational and financial risk" the school is likely to endure. The shocking allegations of abuse may scare away prospective students and anger deep-pocketed alumni who make large donations to the football powerhouse.

"While the full impact of these increased risks will only unfold over a period of years, we will also assess the degree of near and medium term risks to determine whether to downgrade the current Aa1 rating," Moody's said in a news release.

One risk is that Penn State's insurers may balk at footing the bill for settlements with victims. They potentially could argue that top school officials, including its now-exiled president, Graham Spanier, were aware for years of the abuses allegedly committed by the football team's former assistant coach, Jerry Sandusky, but took no action.
 ::snipping2::

They can argue all they want they will be paying the claims.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Shell on November 12, 2011, 10:01:57 PM


This has me so upset-for starters...to think of grown men witnessing a man and a child engaged in a*** i*********  and they did not intervene right there on the spot is beyond my comprehension.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Shell on November 12, 2011, 10:04:18 PM


The men who swept it under the rug, it makes me suspicious of them too, sorry but it does. How can you overlook and call yourself a man? Shame shame


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 09:42:50 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/sandusky-scandal-fate-mile-charity/story?id=14932563
Penn State Scandal: The Second Mile Tries to Separate From Founder
November 11, 2011

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Sandusky, who retired from The Second Mile in September 2010, was the charity's primary fundraiser, according to the grand jury's report, which causes a problem for The Second Mile as it not only deals with an investigation by Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett, but also the possible exodus of its donors.

"You pin a lot to that person, and when they fall especially with a small organization, it can be really damaging," Palmer said.

With revenue of $2.9 million in 2010, according to its annual report, and a staff of about 20, The Second Mile had three offices in Pennsylvania.

Sandusky helped establish the charity in 1977 with proceeds from his book, Developing Linebackers the Penn State Way, according to Sports Illustrated. The organization began as a foster group home and expanded into programs for troubled youth.

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The Second Mile's president and CEO, Jack Raykovitz, is an alum, as are many of its donors. But Palmer said the organization will have to separate itself from its associations with Penn State though that may be difficult given its ties to the university.

The organization must also assure donors that it is doing everything possible to make sure its children are protected in the future.

The fact that the allegations involve children the organization intended to serve makes the accusations especially troubling. In a statement on Sunday the organization said, "the newly released details and the breadth of the allegations from the Attorney General's office bring shock, sadness and concern from The Second Mile organization. Our prayers, care and compassion go out to all impacted."

"To our knowledge, all the alleged incidents occurred outside of our programs and events," the organization said on its website.
Second Mile CEO Raykovitz testified to the grand jury that he was informed in 2002 by Pennsylvania State University Athletic Director Tim Curley that an individual had reported to Curley that he was uncomfortable about seeing Jerry Sandusky in the locker room shower with a youth.

"Curley also shared that the information had been internally reviewed and that there was no finding of wrongdoing. At no time was The Second Mile made aware of the very serious allegations contained in the Grand Jury report," the charity said.

Sandusky adopted six children with his wife, three as infants and the other three children through foster care.

Sandusky was a highly-respected figure in the community, which makes the allegations against him, and implications that The Second Mile may have known about at least one reported incident of abuse by Sandusky, especially difficult for the charity.

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Second Mile's funds are much more limited than that of large national organizations like the Boy Scouts.

According to its 2010 annual report, the largest category of The Second Mile's revenues, 27 percent, came from events: $725,525 after expenses. Corporations gave $633,880, individuals gave $438,308 and foundations provided $361,783.

"Anyone who has made a significant gift would be concerned where there money went," Palmer said, and "corporations would be concerned about their Tmage."

Penn State athletics' corporate sponsors are also watching how events unfold at the university. Cars.com has announced it is canceling its sponsorship of Penn State football broadcasts for the next two Saturdays and redistributed its ads during those games.

"Due to the recent allegations surrounding the Penn State Football program, Cars.com notified ESPN on Tuesday morning of its plans to withdraw from this weekend's sponsorship of the Nebraska at Penn State game, as well as next weekend's game between Penn State and Ohio State," the company said in a statement. "As a proud, longtime supporter of ESPN College Football, it's important to us that we're building our brand in a way that celebrates the sport, its fans and the dedication of its student athletes."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 13, 2011, 12:13:23 PM
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Penn State sex abuse allegations should be investigated by federal government

A federal investigation is the only way to find out the whole truth


NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, November 13 2011, 12:11 AM


It got more than somewhat lost the other day, in the aftermath of Joe Paterno and the Penn State president being fired, the school’s version of a Midnight Massacre out of another coverup called Watergate. But a very smart New York defense and civil rights lawyer named Tom Harvey was in the Daily News talking about how he believed the federal government would eventually need to sort things out at Penn State.

Not a special committee of Penn State people investigating Penn State, not the office of the attorney general in Pennsylvania, not even a governor of Pennsylvania who actually was the state’s attorney general at the start of the Penn State investigation.

The feds, Harvey said on the lead page of our sports section on Thursday.

Of course there was so much shouting at Penn State and about Penn State at the time that nobody paid much attention to the ominous common sense that Harvey brought to the subject, putting his own words to the outrage that everyone feels about the way this story of sexual abuse and the outrageous abuse of power played out over more than a decade.

Harvey was out there first with getting the feds involved in this case, and still talking about it with me Saturday. And you better pay attention, the way they better pay attention at Penn State, where the trouble doesn’t go away because they went back to playing football again Saturday, and where things will never be the same.

“JoePa’s situation could get a lot worse if the federal government launches an investigation,” Harvey said. “As far as the State of Pennsylvania’s prosecution, it appears it will be limited to going after Jerry Sandusky for molesting his young victims and the failure of the two administrators for failing to report the incident in 2002.

“Maybe people recall the movie ‘Mississippi Burning’ where local officials were involved in the murder and cover-up of three civil rights workers in the 1960s. Only after the FBI and federal prosecutors took over the investigation would the close-knit community reveal its horrible secrets. Similarly in Happy Valley, Pa. the code of silence that seems to have enveloped the university and the football community there could be broken. And potential conspirators thrown in jail.”

Oh sure, they returned to football Saturday at Penn State. They can never return to the false Happy Valley picture of the place as being different and special from the rest of college football, as hard as they will try. The more horrific details you hear about this case and the way it was handled across nearly two decades, the more you see how football really does become a religion, or a cult, at these big schools, see how powerful the institution of football is, even when under assaults.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/penn-state-sex-abuse-allegations-investigated-federal-government-article-1.976806#ixzz1dbeRLyy9


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 13, 2011, 12:42:50 PM
I don't trust the board of trustees as far as I can throw them.

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Harvey talked then about the Penn State Board of Trustees announcing its investigative committee, and how they better be careful with that, because any attempt to write its own report might be considered obstruction of justice.

“A real Board, wanting a real investigation,” Harvey said, “would hire somebody like Louis Freeh, the former director of the FBI, with the mandate that he just get the facts. But then, those facts may be very hard to accept.”



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
Good article, San.  I agree with Tom Harvey: the Feds need to investigate. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 01:01:01 PM
I don't trust the board of trustees as far as I can throw them.

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Harvey talked then about the Penn State Board of Trustees announcing its investigative committee, and how they better be careful with that, because any attempt to write its own report might be considered obstruction of justice.

“A real Board, wanting a real investigation,” Harvey said, “would hire somebody like Louis Freeh, the former director of the FBI, with the mandate that he just get the facts. But then, those facts may be very hard to accept.”



I wouldn't trust the board of trustees, nor anyone that has an interest in Penn State.  The feds need to investigate.   Sometimes I wonder if the board of trustees went ahead and fired Joe Paterno thinking it would appease and slow the uproar.   Sort of an early sacrifice if you will.  However, Joe Paterno will probably be investigated more thoroughly.  The bit of damage control that's been done  isn't going to cover all that's the underbelly of this tragedy.  So there were a couple of firings and a paid leave.  I don't think that's going to amount to much if this debacle gets proper investigation.  JMHO


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 01:49:19 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/11/13/penn.state.abuse.corbett.ap/
Gov. says McQueary failed 'moral obligation' in Sandusky incident
November 13, 2011

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The Penn State football coach who told a grand jury that he saw another coach molest a child failed to meet "a moral obligation" to intervene, Pennsylvania's governor said Sunday, adding that he expects more victims to come forward.

The coach who testified, Mike McQueary, had said he saw retired Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky sexually assaulting a boy in a shower at a campus football facility almost a decade ago. Sandusky is accused of assaulting eight boys over 15 years and has maintained his innocence. The university has put McQueary on leave from his job.

McQueary told the grand jury he was distraught by what he witnessed and walked away after both Sandusky and the boy saw him. He said he told his father what happened and then told head coach Joe Paterno, who reported it to his superiors. But those school officials, athletic director Tim Curley and school vice president Gary Schultz, face perjury charges, accused of covering up McQueary's 2002 report.

The charges were filed last weekend and the grand jury's report made public, and the resulting outrage made it clear that Paterno, who had coached for decades at Penn State, would share the blame. He was fired Wednesday. In his last game, a win over Illinois, he'd become the coach with the most wins in Division I history.

As for McQueary, the current attorney general had clearly decided that he was to be treated as a witness in the case, Gov. Tom Corbett said on NBC's Meet the Press.

McQueary met "the minimum obligation" of reporting what he saw to his superiors, who are required under Pennsylvania law to report such assaults to authorities. But McQueary "did not in my opinion meet a moral obligation that all of us would have," said the governor, who as attorney general initiated the investigation that led to the charges.

Corbett also said people have to keep in mind "that this is also somebody who is a witness to this crime and is a very important witness."

State lawmakers from both parties have proposed changes to toughen the law that governs the reporting of sex assaults, Corbett added. He said he would not be surprised to see it strengthened this year.

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Corbett said he expects more allegations of abuse to materialize, a common occurrence in abuse cases.

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Sandusky encountered all the boys through a charity he founded to help at-risk children, Second Mile, prosecutors have said. Leaders of the organization plan to meet soon to determine its future, Corbett said.

"If you talk to people who have worked with Second Mile, it has done great work," he said. "And if it should cease to exist, I am hopeful that other organizations will pick up the work that they did. We need to reach out to these children. We need to give them guidance."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 01:53:57 PM

It was bad enough when I read Mike McQueary witnessed Sandusky sexually abusing a young boy in the showers, but I had never read anywhere previously that Sandusky and the victim both saw him before he ran away from the scene.  I had assumed McQueary saw what was going on and left, without being seen.  If the statement in the above article is correct, it's even worse than I originally thought.   ::MonkeyMad::  If Sandusky saw McQueary witness him having anal sex with a young boy in the showers at the university and saw McQueary leave the scene, that leaves open a whole lot of possibilities.  How much did McQueary gain over the years from the Penn State program or otherwise to be kept quiet?  McQueary may not have had to black mail Sandusky, but it would make sense that Sandusky would be sure to take care of the the witness.  Okay.  It's either that, or Sandusky thought he was such a powerful and influential personality that even if McQueary had called the police, no one would have believed him?  I am just stunned.  And I'm just appalled.  According to this article, McQueary saw both Sandusky and the victim and they both saw him.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  And he ran.  And he told his Daddy.  The victim was violated not once, but twice that day, imo.    McQueary could have been a champion of a child being abused by stepping up and stopping Sandusky.  But he didn't.  McQueary's silence and failure to act fed the monster.  And the monster fed again and again and again.  It's no wonder McQueary answered that he had seen Sandusky and the victim in the shower when he went before the grand jury.  He HAD to because most likely the victim identified Mike McQueary when he was relating the incident to the police!  McQueary is no whistleblower.  He didn't come clean.  He got caught himself!  Lower than low! McQueary may NEVER have told about the incident unless he had been forced when it came to the grand jury.

Link to the article I'm referring to in my post:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/11/13/penn.state.abuse.corbett.ap/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 02:17:38 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/13/justice/pennsylvania-coach-abuse/?hpt=hp_t1
Pennsylvania governor: Change law after Penn State scandal
November 13, 2011

(CNN) -- Pennsylvania needs to change its law in the wake of a scandal over alleged child sexual abuse by a then-member of Penn State's football coaching team, the governor said Sunday.

A new law is needed to make sure reports of alleged child sexual abuse are made to government authorities, Tom Corbett said.

"Should the law be changed? Absolutely," Corbett said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Corbett was the attorney general who began an investigation of former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.
 ::snipping2::
In 2002, a graduate assistant allegedly saw Sandusky raping a boy in the showers of a campus athletics facility. The graduate student, Mike McQueary, informed Joe Paterno, the team's coach at the time, according to the grand jury report. Paterno then alerted his boss, the school's athletic director.

It was years before law enforcement first learned about the allegation.

Penn State Athletic Director Timothy Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz have been charged for failing to report the abuse to authorities and misleading investigators. Prosecutors determined that a legal duty to report the alleged abuse applied to them, but not to McQueary and Paterno.
Members of both political parties "have already introduced measures" to change the law, Corbett said when asked about Paterno. "And we have to make sure that the change in the law is one that is effective. It's easy enough to take a look to see what other states have done. But I'm sure that within the next few weeks, you will probably see bills become public.
 ::snipping2::
The grand jury report says that Schultz and Curley were "senior staff" of the university. "Pennsylvania's mandatory reporting statute for suspected child abuse ... provides that when a staff member reports abuse ... the person in charge of the school or institution has the responsibility and legal obligation to report or cause such a report to be made by telephone and in writing within 48 hours" to the Department of Public Welfare, according to the report. "An oral report should have been made to the Centre County Children and Youth Services," it said.

The requirement did not apply to McQueary because he was "in a subservient position" as a graduate student, legal analyst Holly Hughes told CNN. He was not "in a position of power," she said.

When Paterno told his boss and no report was given to the authorities, "that is where they failed," she said. "That's where they fall down on the job."

There is also speculation that Pennsylvania's whistle-blower laws may apply to, and protect, McQueary.

Legal analyst and civil rights attorney Avery Friedman said the case highlights the need for "a re-examination of what is called the mandatory reporter law."

"The argument being advanced in Pennsylvania is that as long as you tell the boss, you're covered. And that's where -- I think if we zero in on the issue -- where the problem is. If victims are going to be protected, you have to go to law enforcement, and that didn't happen here," Friedman said.
Outside of the legal concerns, many question why McQueary did not stop what he allegedly saw happening in the showers in 2002.

"How does McQueary, a 28-year-old grad student, look in the showers of a facility and see a grown man raping a 10-year-old child and not instinctively grab a baseball bat and not protect this child? How does he live with himself?" asked Richard Hermann, legal analyst and criminal defense attorney.
 ::snipping2::
GOP presidential hopeful Rep. Michelle Bachmann, who happened to appear on "Meet the Press" after Corbett, was asked about the scandal.

"If that was my child," she said of the allegations, her "automatic reaction would be, even though I'm a small woman, I'd want to go find that guy and beat him to a pulp."

But Bachmann said the case belongs within the state's jurisdiction, and that she does not see a role for Congress in the response.
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In my home state of Texas, there is a law that covers this.  I've provided a link and snipped the penal code and what options for punishment would be for a person found guilty of a Class A Misdemeanor.  In other words, if this had happened in Texas, and Mike McQueary was found guilty, this is what could face:

 ::snipping2::
“Under Texas law, you are required to make that report,” said Detective Joel Pridgeon with Austin Police Department’s Child Abuse Unit.

In the Penn State grand jury report, a graduate assistant who witnesses one of the sexual assaults happening notified Joe Paterno, but not police or child protective services.

In Texas, that would qualify as a class A misdemeanor:

Texas Penal Code …

Sec. 38.17.  FAILURE TO STOP OR REPORT AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT OF CHILD.  (a)  A person, other than a person who has a relationship with a child described by Section 22.04(b), commits an offense if:

(1)  the actor observes the commission or attempted commission of an offense prohibited by Section 21.02 or 22.021(a)(2)(B) under circumstances in which a reasonable person would believe that an offense of a sexual or assaultive nature was being committed or was about to be committed against the child;

(2)  the actor fails to assist the child or immediately report the commission of the offense to a peace officer or law enforcement agency; and

(3)  the actor could assist the child or immediately report the commission of the offense without placing the actor in danger of suffering serious bodily injury or death.

(b)  An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

  ::snipping2::
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And a link to:   
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/docs/PE/htm/PE.12.htm
Penal Code
 ::snipping2::
SUBCHAPTER B. ORDINARY MISDEMEANOR PUNISHMENTS

Sec. 12.21.  CLASS A MISDEMEANOR. An individual adjudged guilty of a Class A misdemeanor shall be punished by:


(1)  a fine not to exceed $4,000;

(2)  confinement in jail for a term not to exceed one year; or

(3)  both such fine and confinement.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 13, 2011, 02:27:27 PM

It was bad enough when I read Mike McQueary witnessed Sandusky sexually abusing a young boy in the showers, but I had never read anywhere previously that Sandusky and the victim both saw him before he ran away from the scene.  I had assumed McQueary saw what was going on and left, without being seen.  If the statement in the above article is correct, it's even worse than I originally thought.   ::MonkeyMad::  If Sandusky saw McQueary witness him having anal sex with a young boy in the showers at the university and saw McQueary leave the scene, that leaves open a whole lot of possibilities.  How much did McQueary gain over the years from the Penn State program or otherwise to be kept quiet?  McQueary may not have had to black mail Sandusky, but it would make sense that Sandusky would be sure to take care of the the witness.  Okay.  It's either that, or Sandusky thought he was such a powerful and influential personality that even if McQueary had called the police, no one would have believed him?  I am just stunned.  And I'm just appalled.  According to this article, McQueary saw both Sandusky and the victim and they both saw him.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  And he ran.  And he told his Daddy.  The victim was violated not once, but twice that day, imo.    McQueary could have been a champion of a child being abused by stepping up and stopping Sandusky.  But he didn't.  McQueary's silence and failure to act fed the monster.  And the monster fed again and again and again.  It's no wonder McQueary answered that he had seen Sandusky and the victim in the shower when he went before the grand jury.  He HAD to because most likely the victim identified Mike McQueary when he was relating the incident to the police!  McQueary is no whistleblower.  He didn't come clean.  He got caught himself!  Lower than low! McQueary may NEVER have told about the incident unless he had been forced when it came to the grand jury.

Link to the article I'm referring to in my post:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/11/13/penn.state.abuse.corbett.ap/


I believe this Victim has NOT been identified!  No one ever bothered to find out who he was or see he got the help he needed.  This is just appalling!  I am from PA and grew up near State College.  Now they say more horrendous news is coming out in the future.  My God, how can it be worse!  I am just sick over this. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 13, 2011, 02:29:38 PM
I don't trust the board of trustees as far as I can throw them.

Quote
Harvey talked then about the Penn State Board of Trustees announcing its investigative committee, and how they better be careful with that, because any attempt to write its own report might be considered obstruction of justice.

“A real Board, wanting a real investigation,” Harvey said, “would hire somebody like Louis Freeh, the former director of the FBI, with the mandate that he just get the facts. But then, those facts may be very hard to accept.”



I wouldn't trust the board of trustees, nor anyone that has an interest in Penn State.  The feds need to investigate.   Sometimes I wonder if the board of trustees went ahead and fired Joe Paterno thinking it would appease and slow the uproar.   Sort of an early sacrifice if you will.  However, Joe Paterno will probably be investigated more thoroughly.  The bit of damage control that's been done  isn't going to cover all that's the underbelly of this tragedy.  So there were a couple of firings and a paid leave.  I don't think that's going to amount to much if this debacle gets proper investigation.  JMHO

 ::rhino::  They thought wrong didn't they?  Remove anyone from Penn State immediately in this investigation.  I don't want to hear any BS about their own investigation.  Right now the government needs to monitor the boys this guy abused and make sure they are safe.  I think there are people willing to harm these kids for coming forward.

I saw a news reporter yesterday ask a guy a question.  The guy turned to him and said are you a Joe fan?  The reporter didn't answer and asked the question again.  The reporter said I ask the questions.  The guy turned and said if you aren't a Joe fan then you don't belong her and get the hell out of here.

That kind of mentality makes you wonder what these people are thinking.  Yesterdays game was never about the kids like they were saying on TV.  I was about saving face.  That guys mentality proved my point.  JMO.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 13, 2011, 02:44:10 PM

It was bad enough when I read Mike McQueary witnessed Sandusky sexually abusing a young boy in the showers, but I had never read anywhere previously that Sandusky and the victim both saw him before he ran away from the scene.  I had assumed McQueary saw what was going on and left, without being seen.  If the statement in the above article is correct, it's even worse than I originally thought.   ::MonkeyMad::  If Sandusky saw McQueary witness him having anal sex with a young boy in the showers at the university and saw McQueary leave the scene, that leaves open a whole lot of possibilities.  How much did McQueary gain over the years from the Penn State program or otherwise to be kept quiet?  McQueary may not have had to black mail Sandusky, but it would make sense that Sandusky would be sure to take care of the the witness.  Okay.  It's either that, or Sandusky thought he was such a powerful and influential personality that even if McQueary had called the police, no one would have believed him?  I am just stunned.  And I'm just appalled.  According to this article, McQueary saw both Sandusky and the victim and they both saw him.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  And he ran.  And he told his Daddy.  The victim was violated not once, but twice that day, imo.    McQueary could have been a champion of a child being abused by stepping up and stopping Sandusky.  But he didn't.  McQueary's silence and failure to act fed the monster.  And the monster fed again and again and again.  It's no wonder McQueary answered that he had seen Sandusky and the victim in the shower when he went before the grand jury.  He HAD to because most likely the victim identified Mike McQueary when he was relating the incident to the police!  McQueary is no whistleblower.  He didn't come clean.  He got caught himself!  Lower than low! McQueary may NEVER have told about the incident unless he had been forced when it came to the grand jury.

Link to the article I'm referring to in my post:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/11/13/penn.state.abuse.corbett.ap/


I believe this Victim has NOT been identified!  No one ever bothered to find out who he was or see he got the help he needed.  This is just appalling!  I am from PA and grew up near State College.  Now they say more horrendous news is coming out in the future.  My God, how can it be worse!  I am just sick over this. 

Hi nomad, we are all sick over this.

You have to wonder how worse it can get.  A guy on ESPN said yesterday this is going to be worse.

What I am wondering is if any of those kids are missing.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 03:03:37 PM
Grand Jury Transcript

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 03:19:18 PM
Could it be that Dorothy Sandusky's wife was able to make contact with the victim who 28 year old Mike McQueary observed being raped by her husband in 2002?  Was a settlement reached that implied this victim would not come forward ... identify himself and ... testify before the Grand Jury?

Janet

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Why did Jerry Sandusky's wife call abuse victim weeks before his testimony ....
Last updated at 7:32 PM on 13th November 2011


Jerry Sandusky’s wife has been largely absent from the analysis of who knew what about her husband’s alleged sexual abuse of eight boys over a 15-year period.

But Dorothy 'Dottie' Gross Sandusky does make an appearance in the 23-page Grand Jury indictment which graphically details the charges against the 67-year-old former Penn State coach.

Mrs Sandusky, 68, attempted to call one of the victims in the weeks leading up to his testimony, despite the fact the now 26-year-old had cut off all contact with Sandusky two years prior.

She left a message on Victim 7's phone saying the matter was 'very important' but the man, who told the Grand Jury that as a ten-year-old in 1994, Sandusky hugged and inappropriately touched him, did not return the call.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060914/Jerry-Sandusky-Penn-State-sex-abuse-Why-did-Jerry-wife-abuse-victim-weeks-testimony.html?ito=feeds-newsxml



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 03:22:21 PM

Hi nomad, we are all sick over this.

You have to wonder how worse it can get.  A guy on ESPN said yesterday this is going to be worse.

What I am wondering is if any of those kids are missing.


 ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 03:25:52 PM
RUMOR? Mark Madden Says, Former Penn St Coach Jerry Sandusky ‘Pimping Out Young Boys to Rich Donors
Posted November 11, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/11/11/rumor-mark-madden-says-former-penn-st-coach-jerry-sandusky-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors/

BUMPED


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 05:19:53 PM
The Guy in the Glass

When you get what you want in your struggle for pelf,
And the world makes you King for a day,
Then go to the mirror and look at yourself,
And see what that guy has to say.

For it isn't your Father, or Mother, or Wife,
Who judgement upon you must pass.
The feller whose verdict counts most in your life
Is the guy staring back from the glass.

He's the feller to please, never mind all the rest,
For he's with you clear up to the end,
And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test
If the guy in the glass is your friend.

You may be like Jack Horner and "chisel" a plum,
And think you're a wonderful guy,
But the man in the glass says you're only a bum
If you can't look him straight in the eye.

You can fool the whole world down the pathway of years,
And get pats on the back as you pass,
But your final reward will be heartaches and tears
If you've cheated the guy in the glass.

by Dale Wimbrow, 1934




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 05:28:41 PM
Was Joe Paterno able to look into the eyes of "the man in the glass" each morning for the past decade.  I don't think so.

Janet

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Don’t Be an Enabler — When a Child Is Abused, Here’s What to Do
By Michael Reagan
Published November 10, 2011


<snipped>

Coach, you knew back in 2002 that Jerry Sandusky had anally raped a ten-year-old boy in the Lasch Football Building. You handled the matter quietly with your athletic director, Tim Curley. You took away the rapist’s keys and barred him from the facility—but you didn’t call the police. You didn’t lift a finger to help the victim. No hindsight needed, coach. You screwed up.

Yes, we all know about your 61-year career at Penn State. But when you allow children to be victimized right under your nose, you wipe out 61 years of achievement. The Jerry Sandusky scandal is your legacy now. …

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/10/dont-be-enabler-when-child-is-abused-heres-what-to-do/



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 13, 2011, 07:07:58 PM
Grand Jury Transcript

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf


Tamikosmom

Thank you for the link.  Yes, it does state NO one bothered to find out who this little boy was!
Knew I had read that appalling fact.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 13, 2011, 07:13:44 PM

Hi nomad, we are all sick over this.

You have to wonder how worse it can get.  A guy on ESPN said yesterday this is going to be worse.

What I am wondering is if any of those kids are missing.


 ::MonkeyShocked::



Oh San!  You are right about so many things; especially in Natalee's case.  This is one time I hope you are wrong.  But in all honesty, nothing would surprise me anymore.  I really do believe Gricar (the DA who disappeared) and his ruined computer/hard drive somehow relate to past evidence against Sanduskey.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 13, 2011, 07:18:56 PM

Hi nomad, we are all sick over this.

You have to wonder how worse it can get.  A guy on ESPN said yesterday this is going to be worse.

What I am wondering is if any of those kids are missing.


 ::MonkeyShocked::


Oh San!  You are right about so many things; especially in Natalee's case.  This is one time I hope you are wrong.  But in all honesty, nothing would surprise me anymore.  I really do believe Gricar (the DA who disappeared) and his ruined computer/hard drive somehow relate to past evidence against Sanduskey.



I am sorry, I got my post inside Tamikosmom's post.  Guess it has just been too long since I posted.  Maybe someone can fix for me?  If you can, TIA.


Fixed it = San


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 13, 2011, 07:33:06 PM
I hope I am doing this post correctly. Not sure how to post pictures from an article and to post a link to the article, but I am going to try.

The more I read the more disgusted I get!  It appears the judge (picture in the article) who left Sandusky out on unsecured bail is involved with "The Second Mile".

Link:  http://deadspin.com/5859075/  (http://deadspin.com/5859075/)

snip:  When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor. District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

snip:   Of course, also according to her profile, Judge Dutchcot is a volunteer for Sandusky's group, The Second Mile. Sandusky turned himself in the morning of November 5, a Saturday, at Judge Dutchot's Centre County office. He was released, under the aforementioned terms, shortly thereafter.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 07:38:09 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/heycameraman (http://twitter.com/#!/heycameraman)
Heycameraman HC
Judge who set unsecured bail for #Sandusky is a volunteer for his 'Second Mile' Org. eadspin.com/5859075/judge-… (http://deadspin.com/5859075/judge-…)
9 minutes ago

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Judge Who Set Unsecured Bail For Jerry Sandusky Is a Second Mile Volunteer

When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor. District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

 ::snipping2::

Of course, also according to her profile, Judge Dutchcot is a volunteer for Sandusky's group, The Second Mile. Sandusky turned himself in the morning of November 5, a Saturday, at Judge Dutchot's Centre County office. He was released, under the aforementioned terms, shortly thereafter.

Attorneys often serve charitable foundations in their pro bono capacities, or just volunteer in their spare time, so there is nothing weird about that. It just seems that, given the nature of the charges, the small town atmosphere and her relationship to Second Mile, Judge Dutchcot should have recused herself from being involved with this process. Or, that could be precisely why she did not.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 08:07:06 PM
Thanks nomad and MuffyBee

Something is not right.  Would Jerry Sandusky and District Judge Leslie Dutchcot's connections to the Second Mile foundation not imply a conflict of interest?

Nevertheless ... does the judge not get it!  A witness observed a child being raped by Sandusky.  Has Dutchcot not read the Grand Jury transcript?

Sandusky is facing life in prison.  He is a flight risk if there every was one and ... he has  the means to make it happen.

Jerry Sandusky's disappearance? Maybe that is the plan ... the plan established by the "powers that be" within the University ... within LE ... within the Second Mile Foundation and ... within the State.  All these levels would be open to lawsuits by victims if  Sandusky were convicted ... lawsuits by victims for not taking action over the years in regards to all the red flags/allegations that came to their attention.

Janet

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Judge Who Set Unsecured Bail For Jerry Sandusky Is a Second Mile Volunteer
Nov 13, 2011 3:51 PM


When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor. District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

<snipped>

http://deadspin.com/5859075/



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 08:33:23 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/PeterAlexander (http://twitter.com/#!/PeterAlexander)

PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
Attorney for one alleged #Sandusky victim tells @NBCNews he's preparing civil lawsuit against #PennState.
3 hours ago
Peter Alexander
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Sandusky still receiving monthly pension payments from #PennState coaching job, totaling $58K+ annually.(via @pennlive)
22 hours ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 13, 2011, 08:35:47 PM
I hope I am doing this post correctly. Not sure how to post pictures from an article and to post a link to the article, but I am going to try.

The more I read the more disgusted I get!  It appears the judge (picture in the article) who left Sandusky out on unsecured bail is involved with "The Second Mile".

Link:  http://deadspin.com/5859075/  (http://deadspin.com/5859075/)

snip:  When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor. District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

snip:   Of course, also according to her profile, Judge Dutchcot is a volunteer for Sandusky's group, The Second Mile. Sandusky turned himself in the morning of November 5, a Saturday, at Judge Dutchot's Centre County office. He was released, under the aforementioned terms, shortly thereafter.

Thanks nomad.  This judge needs to be removed from making decisions in this case.  This makes me so mad  ::MonkeyMad::

This guy has a lot of connections.

Our Federal Government needs to step in immediately.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 13, 2011, 08:44:25 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1273527686001/judge-jeanine-innocence-shattered/?playlist_id=163706
November 13, 2011
Judge Jeanine: Innocence Shattered
Summation of the Penn State scandal

(Video)

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1273405282001/da-originally-investigating-psu-scandal-missing/?playlist_id=163706
November 13, 2011
DA Originally Investigating PSU Scandal Missing
What happened to Ray Gricar in 2005?

(video)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 13, 2011, 09:56:39 PM
I hope I am doing this post correctly. Not sure how to post pictures from an article and to post a link to the article, but I am going to try.

The more I read the more disgusted I get!  It appears the judge (picture in the article) who left Sandusky out on unsecured bail is involved with "The Second Mile".

Link:  http://deadspin.com/5859075/  (http://deadspin.com/5859075/)

snip:  When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor. District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

snip:   Of course, also according to her profile, Judge Dutchcot is a volunteer for Sandusky's group, The Second Mile. Sandusky turned himself in the morning of November 5, a Saturday, at Judge Dutchot's Centre County office. He was released, under the aforementioned terms, shortly thereafter.

Thanks nomad.  This judge needs to be removed from making decisions in this case.  This makes me so mad  ::MonkeyMad::

This guy has a lot of connections.

Our Federal Government needs to step in immediately.

It truly is outrageous. I don't think anyone knows where he is now.  It appears he is not at his home.  With all the money he is receiving from Penn State + the Second Mile and who knows how much money he has stashed from the past 3 decades, one would immediately think flight risk.  Some Government entity should take over the whole university and do a good housecleaning. Everything concerning this is totally out of hand.  Did you see where Shultz is receiving over $300,000 a year retirement? Unbelievable!

ps thank you for fixing my earlier post.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 13, 2011, 10:07:23 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1273527686001/judge-jeanine-innocence-shattered/?playlist_id=163706
November 13, 2011
Judge Jeanine: Innocence Shattered
Summation of the Penn State scandal

(Video)

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1273405282001/da-originally-investigating-psu-scandal-missing/?playlist_id=163706
November 13, 2011
DA Originally Investigating PSU Scandal Missing
What happened to Ray Gricar in 2005?

(video)

Thank you for these as I hadn't seen them.  I read this very interesting article on CBS re: Gricar's disappearance.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16080125/gricars-2005-disappearance-only-one-of-many-mysteries-in-psu-scandal (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16080125/gricars-2005-disappearance-only-one-of-many-mysteries-in-psu-scandal)

snip:

They're mysterious, these clues, as everything about this story seems to be. When Gricar left his home that day in April 2005, he told his family he was driving to Lewisburg, Pa., a place about an hour away where he liked to shop for antiques. And indeed it looks like he made it there, because it was in a parking lot in Lewisburg that police found his red-and-white 2004 Mini Cooper. They found no sign of a struggle inside the car, but they did find traces of cigarette ashes.

Ray Gricar didn't smoke, and didn't let people smoke in his car. So who left those ashes, and when? It's a mystery.

The other clue is even more mind-bending. Gricar's computer was found in pieces, the first piece in July 2005, three months after his disappearance. Fishermen spotted his laptop under a bridge, damaged by water and missing its hard drive. Two months later a woman walking on the riverbank found the hard drive, about a half-mile from where the Mini Cooper had been abandoned. The hard drive was so water-damaged, investigators couldn't get any information from it.

snip:

But in 2009, investigators announced what they had found on the home computer at Ray Gricar's house. In the weeks before he vanished, someone had used that computer to research ways of destroying a computer hard drive.

What does that mean? It's a mystery. One guess -- my guess -- is that Ray Gricar had used his laptop in 2005 to visit websites that disturbed him, disturbed him so much that he wanted to kill any sign he had been there ... before killing himself in the same way his brother had killed himself in 1996.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 13, 2011, 10:35:52 PM
I hope I am doing this post correctly. Not sure how to post pictures from an article and to post a link to the article, but I am going to try.

The more I read the more disgusted I get!  It appears the judge (picture in the article) who left Sandusky out on unsecured bail is involved with "The Second Mile".

Link:  http://deadspin.com/5859075/  (http://deadspin.com/5859075/)

snip:  When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor. District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

snip:   Of course, also according to her profile, Judge Dutchcot is a volunteer for Sandusky's group, The Second Mile. Sandusky turned himself in the morning of November 5, a Saturday, at Judge Dutchot's Centre County office. He was released, under the aforementioned terms, shortly thereafter.

Thanks nomad.  This judge needs to be removed from making decisions in this case.  This makes me so mad  ::MonkeyMad::

This guy has a lot of connections.

Our Federal Government needs to step in immediately.

It truly is outrageous. I don't think anyone knows where he is now.  It appears he is not at his home.  With all the money he is receiving from Penn State + the Second Mile and who knows how much money he has stashed from the past 3 decades, one would immediately think flight risk.  Some Government entity should take over the whole university and do a good housecleaning. Everything concerning this is totally out of hand.  Did you see where Shultz is receiving over $300,000 a year retirement? Unbelievable!

ps thank you for fixing my earlier post.


WOW that's a lot of money.  Unreal.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 13, 2011, 10:39:07 PM
Brian Williams will be covering the story tomorrow night on Rock Center.  Bob Costas will be reporting.

http://tinyurl.com/7dtnl4v


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 13, 2011, 10:42:45 PM
Having internet issues today.  Just read that the judge in this case is linked the Sandusky's 'charity' and that his wife tried to call a victim.  This is just twisted.  It really is.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 13, 2011, 10:47:51 PM
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/133756083.html?cmpid=15585797

Jerry Sandusky's home vandalized

Quote
But that hasn't stopped the occasional person from driving by to see where Sandusky lives, right in front of Lemont Elementary School and a playground.

 

Why am I not surprised that this guy lived near a school and playground?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 10:57:51 PM
Former Penn State Assistant Coach Reportedly Continues to Receive Monthly Pension Payments
Published November 13, 2011


STATE COLLEGE, Pa. –  Former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, who has been charged with 21 felony counts of child sexual abuse, continues to receive substantial monthly pension payments from the university stemming from a deal reached when he retired, The Patriot-News reported.

Sandusky retired from his assistant coaching position in 1999, but retained coach "emeritus" status and access to Penn State facilities. Upon his retirement, he chose to take a $148,271 lump-sum pension payment from the State Employees' Retirement System, the newspaper reported.

The remainder of his pension is paid out on a monthly basis and totals $58,898 annually, The Patriot-News said.

Sandusky has been accused of sexually abusing eight minors over a period of 15 years, with some of the assaults allegedly occurring on the Penn State campus. He denies the charges.

Former Penn State Vice President Gary Schultz, who has been charged with perjury before the grand jury and failing to report suspected child abuse, retired from his position in 2009 but had returned to his Penn State post in September on a temporary basis.

He received a $421,847 lump-sum payment at the time of his retirement in 2009 and now receives a monthly pension payment of $27,558, The Patriot-News reported.

Schultz's monthly payments amount to nearly $331,000 a year.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/13/former-penn-state-assistant-coach-reportedly-continues-to-receive-monthly/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 11:00:35 PM
Former Penn State Assistant Coach Reportedly Continues to Receive Monthly Pension Payments
Published November 13, 2011


<snipped>

The newspaper said former athletic director Tim Curley, who was also charged with perjury and failing to report suspected child abuse, did not participate in the state pension system.

Curley and Schulz both stepped down from their posts when they were indicted. Both maintain their innocence.

The Patriot-News said it has submitted a request for pension information for Joe Paterno, the longtime Penn State coach who was fired late Wednesday after criticism that he did not do more in response to allegations made in 2002 against Sandusky.

Former Penn State president Graham Spanier, who was also fired on Wednesday, also was not a member of the state pension system, the newspaper said.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/13/former-penn-state-assistant-coach-reportedly-continues-to-receive-monthly/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 13, 2011, 11:15:50 PM
If the allegations were known by board members was was there "shock" when the indictment came down?

Janet

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NOVEMBER 13, 2011, 10:23 P.M. ET
Board of Charity Founded by Sandusky: 'Shocked'


Board members of the children's charity founded by Jerry Sandusky are shocked by allegations the former Pennsylvania State University assistant football coach sexually abused young boys he met through the group over a period of 15 years, according to a board member.

"Honestly, everyone is shocked. These are horrific charges," said state Sen. Jake Corman. "If true, someone that everyone held up with the highest esteem possible turns into a monster."

Mr. Corman, a Republican who joined the board of The Second Mile in 2010, said the board met Sunday in State College, Pa., where the nonprofit is based. He declined to say what the board discussed, but said the group would issue a new statement as early as Monday, likely on its website. "We have someone who is going to speak for the organization."

<snipped>

Mr. Corman said that when he joined Second Mile's board in 2010 he was informed about an investigation into Mr. Sandusky by the office of the state attorney general. He said he and other statewide board members, who typically met three times a year, knew few details of investigation's progress. "We were never contacted by the Attorney General's office. Just Jerry himself told us and then his lawyer," Mr. Corman said. "We knew it was out there and we were sort of bracing ourselves if an indictment ever came down. We didn't have much interaction with the investigation."

<snipped>

Mr. Corman declined to comment on whether Second Mile should have taken some action in 2002. Mr. Sandusky was banned from interacting with children at the nonprofit's events in 2008 after he informed it about another investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct made that year, the nonprofit said in its statement. In 2010, he fully retired from the organization. "I wasn't there and I'm going to refrain on commenting on what should or shouldn't have been done," Mr. Corman said.

<snipped>

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204190504577036924115215192.html



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2011, 07:08:24 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/13/former-penn-state-assistant-coach-reportedly-continues-to-receive-monthly/
Judge Who Freed Sandusky on Bail Volunteered at His Charity, Report Says Amid Pension Revelations
Published November 14, 2011
| NewsCore

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. –  The judge who ordered former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky be freed on $100,000 unsecured bail worked as a volunteer for his charity, The Second Mile, Deadspin reported Sunday.

The report came after separate revelations that Sandusky was continuing to receive hefty pension payouts from the university.

Sandusky, 67, has been charged with 21 felony counts for allegedly abusing eight male minors over a period of 15 years. He denies the charges.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/13/former-penn-state-assistant-coach-reportedly-continues-to-receive-monthly/#ixzz1dgG8ke9m



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 07:37:44 AM
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/nydn/img/static/columnists/hdr/col_hdr_lupica.jpg)
Lupica: Penn State child sex abuse coverup may be the Watergate of sports

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.977171.1321271170!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/index_635/image.jpg)
A group of students at Penn State collect money for childhelpusa.org outside Beaver Stadium before an NCAA college football game against Nebraska Saturday, Nov. 12, 2011 in State College, Pa.

Silence is not an option: Penn St. sex abuse scandal forces parents to ask kids tough questions

As adult guardians prove untrustworthy, parents go farther to teach kids about abuse

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, November 14 2011, 1:33 AM


She  is the mother of a 10-year-old boy and they live in a big football town where Saturdays are all about the high school team. The mother is not much of a sports fan, though, and had to call a friend Saturday to find out where she could find the Penn State Nebraska game on television.

“It wouldn’t have dawned on me to ever watch a Penn State football game,” she was saying, “until now.”

She has not followed the story about sexual abuse there, about a coverup that will someday be discussed in this country as a Watergate of sports, as a sports fan. She has only followed it, with growing horror, as a parent. And when the game was over on Saturday, and we had seen these ridiculous pictures of people who seemed to be mourning a football coach and Penn State football more than they were the children who were victimized, she sat down with her son.

“I asked him if he knew what had happened at Penn State, and he said no,” she said. “And then I explained it to him as best as I could, a more specific conversation than we’d ever had on this subject, the one that all parents have as a way of trying to keep their children safe.

“And at the end of it, I told him again that if something bad happens, if you think somebody is ever trying to do something bad, tell me. Tell your father. Tell a teacher. But tell somebody who can do something about it. Really, the conversation was about how you can’t stay silent in the face of evil in the world.”

We only begin to find out about the silences at Penn State, about what kind of coverup they had there, what the people in charge knew and when and why they didn’t do more when first warned that there might be a monster in their midst. Watergate was a small, dumb burglary, but one that eventually threatened the foundations of our government. The crimes at Penn State, against children, are much worse, so much worse that they become another part of American life that makes us all wonder if everything is unraveling in front of our eyes.

On Friday night, the President of the United States said that we can’t merely “rely on bureaucracy and systems in these kinds of situations. People have to step forward, they have to be tapping into just their core decency.”

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/silence-option-penn-st-sex-abuse-scandal-forces-parents-kids-tough-questions-article-1.977146#ixzz1dgNJdXi2


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 07:58:56 AM
In case anyone doesn't know Mike Lupica, here is a little information on him:


Quote
Mike Lupica is one of the most prominent sports writers in America. His longevity at the top of his field is based on his experience and insider's knowledge, coupled with a provocative presentation that takes an uncompromising look at the tumultuous world of professional sports. Today he is a syndicated columnist for the New York Daily News, which includes his popular "Shooting from the Lip" column, which appears every Sunday.

He began his newspaper career covering the New York Knicks for the New York Post at age 23. He became the youngest columnist ever at a New York paper with the New York Daily News, which he joined in 1977. For more than 30 years, Lupica has added magazines, novels, sports biographies, other non-fiction books on sports, as well as television to his professional resume. For the past fifteen years, he has been a TV anchor for ESPN's The Sports Reporters. He also hosted his own program, The Mike Lupica Show on ESPN2.

In 1987, Lupica launched "The Sporting Life" column in Esquire magazine. He has published articles in other magazines, including Sport, World Tennis, Tennis, Golf Digest, Playboy, Sports Illustrated, ESPN: The Magazine, Men's Journal and Parade. He has received numerous honors, including the 2003 Jim Murray Award from the National Football Foundation.

Mike Lupica co-wrote autobiographies with Reggie Jackson and Bill Parcells, collaborated with noted author and screenwriter, William Goldman on Wait 'Till Next Year, and wrote The Summer of '98, Mad as Hell: How Sports Got Away from the Fans and How We Get It Back and Shooting From the Lip, a collection of columns. In addition, he has written a number of novels, including Dead Air, Extra Credits, Limited Partner, Jump, Full Court Press, Red Zone, Too Far and national bestsellers Wild Pitch and Bump and Run. Dead Air was nominated for the Edgar Allen Poe Award for Best First Mystery and became a CBS television move, "Money, Power, Murder" to which Lupica contributed the teleplay. Over the years he has been a regular on the CBS Morning News, Good Morning America and The MacNeil-Lehrer Newshour. On the radio, he has made frequent appearances on Imus in the Morning since the early 1980s.

His previous young adult novels, Travel Team, Heat, Miracle on 49th Street, and the summer hit for 2007, Summer Ball, have shot up the New York Times bestseller list. Lupica is also what he describes as a "serial Little League coach," a youth basketball coach, and a soccer coach for his four children, three sons and a daughter. He and his family live in Connecticut.

http://www.mikelupicabooks.com/mikelupica.html




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 14, 2011, 09:30:18 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-57324022/penn-state-president-explains-mcqueary-status/
Penn State president explains McQueary status
November 14, 2011

(CBS News)

Penn State president Rodney Erickson says Mike McQueary, an assistant coach now on administrative leave who was a graduate assistant when he allegedly witnessed sex abuse at the school in 2002, wasn't fired last week because "legal issues" are in play.

McQueary allegedly saw retired Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky sexually assaulting a child in the shower in a school locker room.

Sandusky is accused of assaulting eight boys over 15 years, and denies the charges.
When asked why Joe Paterno, the iconic Penn State head football coach was fired and not McQueary, Erickson said McQueary's situation was "different." He said, "The board, last Wednesday night, felt that they had to take decisive action, and they did."

"Early Show" co-anchor Jeff Glor asked, "Why was it a different situation, though, if both had information that potentially could have stopped this earlier? Why was one put on administrative leave and one just removed from the position?"

"All I can say at this point is that there are legal issues that are involved," Erickson said.

Glor noted there are three investigations being conducted.Erickson said he hopes to see them completed as soon as possible, so the school can "take whatever corrective actions may be recommended as a result of those investigations."

As for the school, Erickson said "there's ... been the start of a healing process."

When asked if the focus has been too much about the football program and Paterno -- and not on the victims -- Erickson said, "I would certainly hope that the bulk of the focus is on the victims, because there's been so much sadness here at the university over the course of the last week, so much emotion that has been directed toward the victims. Our hearts go out to them."

Just after the announcement that Paterno had been fired amid the scandal, disturbances broke out in State College, Pa., where the school is located.
 ::snipping2::
He said, "The fact that our students organized a candlelight vigil to support the victims of child sexual abuse, where 10,000, mostly students, showed up, I think was an excellent example of the real character of Penn State and Penn State students.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 14, 2011, 09:49:09 AM
There might be some good that comes of this, other places are taking a second look or will act appropriately to new accusations;
  After Penn State, another college reveals abuse probe
 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/13/us-crime-citadel-abuse-idUSTRE7AB12F20111113


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 14, 2011, 10:08:34 AM
  Mike McQueary, Sandusky case witness, hires Harrisburg firm that specializes in employment law
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mcqueary_hires_harrisburg_firm.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 14, 2011, 10:18:22 AM
Pa. monkeys, your state Senators and Representitives need to hear from you about this proposed bill;
Penn State Scandal Revives Bill Requiring Calls to Police of Suspected Incidents. 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204190504577036513196362348.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 10:28:51 AM
BREAKING NEWS FOX:  THE CEO OF THE SECOND MILE CHARITY HAS RESIGNED

The Second Mile, the charity at the center of the Penn State child sex abuse scandal, confirmed it has accepted the resignation of its CEO, Jack Raykovitz, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday.

The non-profit organization was founded by former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky in the late 1970s to help disadvantaged children.

Sandusky, 67, has been charged with 21 felony counts for allegedly abusing eight male minors over a period of 15 years. He denies the charges.

Announcing Raykovitz's departure, The Second Mile said, "We will conduct an internal investigation to assess our internal policies, procedures and processes and make recommendations regarding the organization's future operations."

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Second-Mile-CEO-Jack-Raykovitz-resigns-111411


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 14, 2011, 10:30:54 AM
Muffy , I don't know where to put this . While checking on some laws I found this page that has state and territory law regarding child welfare in an easy to find format;
http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/state/

This is an excellent resource alagary.  I'd like to keep the post here, but I also think there would be another place to post it so we can find it again.  I have to run out this second, but I will get back to it unless Klaas or another mod does first.  MB


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2011, 10:39:47 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/14/us/pennsylvania-coach-abuse/index.html
Judge who freed Sandusky has volunteered for his charity
By Mary Snow, CNN
updated 8:36 AM EST, Mon November 14, 2011

Video at link.
 ::snipping2::
Since Sandusky was freed, an elementary school neighboring his home has taken steps to ensure student safety. Sandusky's backyard is next to the playground at Lemont Elementary School.

When he was released on bail, Sandusky, the former Nittany Lion defensive coordinator, was told not to go near children.

State College Area School District Superintendent Robert J. O'Donnell told The Patriot-News newspaper in an e-mail that police were aware of the issue and that the principal at the school "has taken additional administrative action to ensure our children are safe. These measures ... will remain in place moving forward."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 14, 2011, 10:48:54 AM
Leader of Second Mile children's charity resigns over Jerry Sandusky sex abuse scandal
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/ceo_of_the_second_mile_steps_d.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 10:56:47 AM
I don't want to hear the BS of we will conduct our own investigation.  That means nothing will happen and they are covering themselves.

Confiscate all their records.  Shut them down.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2011, 11:18:47 AM
Disturbing Sandusky interview surfaces 11/14/2011
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45285321#45285321


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2011, 11:26:18 AM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/14/full-text-second-mile-board-of-directors-issues-statement-on-resignation-of-ceo-jack-raykovitz-amid-sandusky-child-sex-abuse-allegations/
10:31 am ET November 14, 2011
FULL TEXT: Second Mile Board of Directors Issues Statement on Resignation of CEO Jack Raykovitz Amid Sandusky Child Sex Abuse Allegations
by Fox News Insider Posted in: Child Sex Abuse Allegations, Jack Raykovitz, Jerry Sandusky, Joe Paterno, Penn State, Second Mile   


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 14, 2011, 11:26:30 AM
Internal investigation!!!  I would hope that there is a Federal investigation into all aspects of the Jerry Sandusky's Second Mile foundation.

Janet

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President of Charity Linked to Penn State Sex Abuse Scandal Resigns
Published November 14, 2011


The president of a charity linked to the Penn State child sex-abuse scandal said he has resigned.

The Board of Directors of The Second Mile said it accepted Dr. Jack Raykovitz's resignation Sunday.

Raykovitz's resignation comes after the charity's founder, Jerry Sandusky, was charged with sexually abusing eight boys over a 15-year period. Sandusky worked as a defensive coordinator for Penn State's football team under legendary head coach Joe Paterno, who was ousted from his position last week. 

The organization said in a statement that Raykovitz had been CEO of the charity for 28 years.

<snipped>

The Second Mile said it will be conducting an internal investigation of its programs.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/14/president-charity-linked-to-penn-state-sex-abuse-scandal-resigns/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 11:39:03 AM
I was watching the view this morning and Joy Behar said what Jerry Sandusky did to these children was just like murder.  He murdered their souls.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 14, 2011, 12:05:30 PM
I was watching the view this morning and Joy Behar said what Jerry Sandusky did to these children was just like murder.  He murdered their souls.

... and those who had knowledge but did nothing meaningful to stop Jerry Sandusky in his murder rampage are participants.

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 14, 2011, 12:49:41 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Big-Ten-takes-Joe-Paterno-name-off-championship-trophy-111411
Big Ten takes Paterno's name off trophy
November 14, 2011

PARK RIDGE, Ill. (AP)

The Big Ten has taken Joe Paterno's name off the Big Ten's football championship trophy.
League commissioner Jim Delany said Monday that it is ''inappropriate'' to keep Paterno's name on the trophy that will be awarded Dec. 3 after the first Big Ten title game.
 ::snipping2::
The trophy had been named the Stagg-Paterno Championship Trophy. Amos Alonzo Stagg won 319 games in 57 years, most at the University of Chicago. Paterno's 409 wins are the most by a major college coach.

The trophy will now be called the Stagg Championship Trophy.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2011, 01:06:14 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/14/alleged-sandusky-victims-lawyer-ben-andreozzi-on-how-his-client-is-coping/
11:52 am ET November 14, 2011
Lawyer for Alleged Sandusky Victim Speaks Out About How His Client Is Coping
by Happening Now Posted in: Ben Andreozzi, Jeff Dion, Jerry Sandusky, Jon Scott, Penn State, Second Mile   

Video at link.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 04:16:39 PM
Jerry Sandusky
First Pic Since Sex Scandal Broke


CORRECTION BY TMZ:  THIS IS NOT JERRY SANDUSKY

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/14/1114-sandusy-tmz-ex-credit.jpg)

Jerry Sandusky has gone underground since the Penn State child sex scandal broke in a very public way last week, but TMZ just got the first photo of the disgraced former assistant coach.

The photo was taken this AM at LaGuardia Airport in NYC, as Sandusky waited for his flight, and passed the time by diving into a bag of Dunkin' Donuts.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/14/jerry-sandusky-laguardia-airport-dunkin-donuts/#.TsGD7FbAGq0


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 14, 2011, 04:18:24 PM
Corporations stop giving to the Second Mile, says former official
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/corporations_stop_giving_to_th.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 14, 2011, 04:23:12 PM
Really surprised Sandusky is alone like that. I would have thought that could be a security problem for the airport.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 14, 2011, 05:00:48 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/centre_county_court_to_launch.html
Centre County court to launch a website for Sandusky updates
November 14, 2011

The Centre County government website is planning to launch a page devoted to updates in the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse case.

Art Heinz, communications coordinator for the Administrative Office of the Pennsylvania Courts, says it could be up later today or tomorrow, and will include updates like scheduling for court hearings.

Heinz also said the AOPC would not be making any statement today about the firestorm surrounding District Judge Leslie Dutchcot's volunteering for The Second Mile, the charity that Sandusky founded in 1977.
 ::snipping2::
A source close has told The Patriot-News that Dutchcot volunteered during 2008 and 2009, and had no contact with Sandusky. He stopped participating in Second Mile events in 2008, when the most recent allegations were made.



BBM
Doesn't matter to me.  It's still a conflict of interest in my opinion.  The judge should have recused herself.  Weren't there others that could have handled the matter?  And this is still another reason for the feds to look into this.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 05:06:47 PM
Really surprised Sandusky is alone like that. I would have thought that could be a security problem for the airport.

I would like to know why he was in New York.  Was he interviewing high powered lawyers?

CORRECTION BY TMZ: THAT WAS NOT JERRY SANDUSKY


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 05:08:10 PM
The first lawyer that came to mind was Joe Tacopina.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 14, 2011, 05:08:52 PM
The first lawyer that came to mind was Joe Tacopina.  ::MonkeyMad::

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 14, 2011, 06:45:22 PM
Judge Who Set Unsecured Bail For Jerry Sandusky Is a Second Mile Volunteer
Nov 13, 2011 3:51 PM


When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor.

District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

<snipped>

http://deadspin.com/5859075/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
I just heard on NBC News that Bob Costa has a interview with Jerry Sandusky tonight.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 07:08:54 PM
Jerry Sandusky said in his interview years ago:

"Everyone needs people to care for them.  Sometimes they don't want it."

Sick.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 14, 2011, 07:39:05 PM
I just heard on NBC News that Bob Costa has a interview with Jerry Sandusky tonight.

 :smt078


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 14, 2011, 08:30:35 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/14/sandusky-admits-showering-with-boys-but-says-hes-innocent-sex-abuse-charges/
Sandusky Admits Showering With Boys, but Says He's 'Innocent' of Sex Abuse Charges

Quote
"I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact," Jerry Sandusky told NBC News' Bob Costas in an interview to air Monday night.

"I say that I am innocent of those charges," he said, though when asked if had done anything wrong, he acknowledged, "I shouldn't have showered with those kids."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/14/sandusky-admits-showering-with-boys-but-says-hes-innocent-sex-abuse-charges/#ixzz1djW5KPnB
 
WOW..the ego.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 14, 2011, 08:33:18 PM
So, according to Sandusky, 2 janitors, a grad assistant, and so far, 8 young men are all lying just to because they can? 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 14, 2011, 08:52:33 PM
http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/14/8804779-jerry-sandusky-to-bob-costas-in-exclusive-rock-center-interview-i-shouldnt-have-showered-with-those-kids
Jerry Sandusky to Bob Costas in exclusive 'Rock Center' interview: "I shouldn't have showered with those kids."
Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:18 PM EST

Video at link.
By Jessica Hopper
Rock Center

DEVELOPING: Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky admitted to showering and horsing around with young boys but said he is not a pedophile in an exclusive interview with Bob Costas for NBC News' Rock Center airing tonight at 10 pm/9 CT. 

"I say that I am innocent of those charges," said Sandusky in a phone interview with Costas.

When asked by Costas, "Are you a pedophile," Sandusky responded "No."

Joe Paterno’s one time defensive coordinator was charged earlier this month with 40 counts of sexually abusing eight boys. He is currently free on a $100,000 bond and has denied any wrongdoing. The allegations date back to 1994, according to a grand jury report. A grand jury report detailed claims of alleged sexual encounters with young boys in Sandusky's home, hotels and Penn State locker rooms.

"I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact," said Sandusky.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 14, 2011, 09:17:26 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/sports/ncaafootball/jack-raykovitz-chief-of-second-mile-resigns-amid-penn-state-scandal.html
More Accusations Surface in Penn State Abuse Case
November 14, 2011


STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — As many as 10 additional suspected victims have come forward to the authorities since the arrest of the former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky last Saturday on 40 counts of sexually abusing young boys, according to people close to the investigation. The police are working to confirm the new allegations.
 ::snipping2::
In a phone interview with Bob Costas that was broadcast Monday night on “Rock Center,” Sandusky said he was innocent of the charges against him and declared that he was not a pedophile. He did acknowledge, “I shouldn’t have showered with those kids.”

“I could say that I have done some of those things,” he said of the allegations against him. “I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact.”

He added: “I enjoy being around children. I enjoy their enthusiasm. I just have a good time with them.”
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 14, 2011, 09:22:19 PM
Mike McQueary To Former Teammates: "I Didn’t Just Turn And Run … I Made Sure It Stopped"

Via Peter Alexander of NBC Nightly News, Penn State receivers coach Mike McQueary has sent an email to former teammates. McQueary, who played at Penn State in the 1990s, was the one who told the grand jury he had witnessed Jerry Sandusky raping a child in a Penn State shower in 2002, when McQueary was a graduate assistant coach. In a series of tweets from Alexander's feed, he quotes McQueary as saying, "I did the right thing...you guys know me...the truth is not out there fully...I didn't just turn and run...I made sure it stopped...I had to make quick tough decisions..." [@PeterAlexander; photo via AP]

http://deadspin.com/5859494/ (http://deadspin.com/5859494/)


I hope this is true and McQueary pummeled Sandusky!


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: tcumom on November 14, 2011, 10:00:45 PM
Mike McQueary To Former Teammates: "I Didn’t Just Turn And Run … I Made Sure It Stopped"

Via Peter Alexander of NBC Nightly News, Penn State receivers coach Mike McQueary has sent an email to former teammates. McQueary, who played at Penn State in the 1990s, was the one who told the grand jury he had witnessed Jerry Sandusky raping a child in a Penn State shower in 2002, when McQueary was a graduate assistant coach. In a series of tweets from Alexander's feed, he quotes McQueary as saying, "I did the right thing...you guys know me...the truth is not out there fully...I didn't just turn and run...I made sure it stopped...I had to make quick tough decisions..." [@PeterAlexander; photo via AP]

http://deadspin.com/5859494/ (http://deadspin.com/5859494/)

I hope this is true and McQueary pummeled Sandusky!
Surely we would have heard about that, although I wish it was so . . . scum Sandusky.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 10:09:53 PM
They are talking to Jerry Sandusky by phone on Rock Center.  This guy is a liar and disgusting.  He said nothing happened when the coach saw them in the shower.  He said they were goofing off and he was slapping a towel.  He is a liar.  So he admits someone saw him in the shower.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 10:12:20 PM
His lawyer said they expect some of those kids come forward and say this never happened.  He said he located one of the kids.  He said isn't that funny.  They found the kid and the commonwealth didn't.

Of course they found the kid Jerry Sandusky told him his name. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 14, 2011, 10:39:13 PM
His lawyer said they expect some of those kids come forward and say this never happened.  He said he located one of the kids.  He said isn't that funny.  They found the kid and the commonwealth didn't.

Of course they found the kid Jerry Sandusky told him his name. ::MonkeyMad::


 ::rhino::


Could it be that Dorothy Sandusky's wife was able to make contact with the victim who 28 year old Mike McQueary observed being raped by her husband in 2002?  Was a settlement reached that implied this victim would not come forward ... identify himself and ... testify before the Grand Jury?

Janet

+++++

Why did Jerry Sandusky's wife call abuse victim weeks before his testimony ....
Last updated at 7:32 PM on 13th November 2011


Jerry Sandusky’s wife has been largely absent from the analysis of who knew what about her husband’s alleged sexual abuse of eight boys over a 15-year period.

But Dorothy 'Dottie' Gross Sandusky does make an appearance in the 23-page Grand Jury indictment which graphically details the charges against the 67-year-old former Penn State coach.

Mrs Sandusky, 68, attempted to call one of the victims in the weeks leading up to his testimony, despite the fact the now 26-year-old had cut off all contact with Sandusky two years prior.

She left a message on Victim 7's phone saying the matter was 'very important' but the man, who told the Grand Jury that as a ten-year-old in 1994, Sandusky hugged and inappropriately touched him, did not return the call.

<snipped>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060914/Jerry-Sandusky-Penn-State-sex-abuse-Why-did-Jerry-wife-abuse-victim-weeks-testimony.html?ito=feeds-newsxml




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 14, 2011, 10:44:55 PM
Mike McQueary To Former Teammates: "I Didn’t Just Turn And Run … I Made Sure It Stopped"

Via Peter Alexander of NBC Nightly News, Penn State receivers coach Mike McQueary has sent an email to former teammates. McQueary, who played at Penn State in the 1990s, was the one who told the grand jury he had witnessed Jerry Sandusky raping a child in a Penn State shower in 2002, when McQueary was a graduate assistant coach. In a series of tweets from Alexander's feed, he quotes McQueary as saying, "I did the right thing...you guys know me...the truth is not out there fully...I didn't just turn and run...I made sure it stopped...I had to make quick tough decisions..." [@PeterAlexander; photo via AP]

http://deadspin.com/5859494/ (http://deadspin.com/5859494/)


I hope this is true and McQueary pummeled Sandusky!


Did Mike McQueary call 911?  Did Mike McQueary take the little boy home ... to hospital?

Allowing the child to leave with his rapist was a cowardly act.

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: grace-land on November 14, 2011, 10:45:53 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_states_mike_mcqueary_writ.html

Penn State's Mike McQueary writes email to ex-teammates: 'I did the right thing'
Published: Monday, November 14, 2011, 10:07 PM     Updated: Monday, November 14, 2011, 10:24 PM

 ::snipping2::

McQueary, who was placed on paid administrative leave by Penn State on Friday and did not coach in the Nittany Lions' 17-14 loss to Nebraska the following day at Beaver Stadium, has not spoken publicly since the Penn State scandal broke. But in the email obtained by NBC News, McQueary told friends and colleagues: "I did the right thing ... you guys know me ... the truth is not out there fully ... I didn't just turn and run ... I made sure it stopped ... I had to make quick tough decisions ...''

According to the grand jury presentment, McQueary left the locker room immediately after witnessing the alleged assault. Nothing in the grand jury presentment backs McQueary's assertion that he "made sure it stopped.''


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 14, 2011, 10:59:48 PM
Grand Jury Transcript

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 11:06:56 PM
His lawyer said they expect some of those kids come forward and say this never happened.  He said he located one of the kids.  He said isn't that funny.  They found the kid and the commonwealth didn't.

Of course they found the kid Jerry Sandusky told him his name. ::MonkeyMad::


 ::rhino::


Could it be that Dorothy Sandusky's wife was able to make contact with the victim who 28 year old Mike McQueary observed being raped by her husband in 2002?  Was a settlement reached that implied this victim would not come forward ... identify himself and ... testify before the Grand Jury?

Janet

+++++

Why did Jerry Sandusky's wife call abuse victim weeks before his testimony ....
Last updated at 7:32 PM on 13th November 2011


Jerry Sandusky’s wife has been largely absent from the analysis of who knew what about her husband’s alleged sexual abuse of eight boys over a 15-year period.

But Dorothy 'Dottie' Gross Sandusky does make an appearance in the 23-page Grand Jury indictment which graphically details the charges against the 67-year-old former Penn State coach.

Mrs Sandusky, 68, attempted to call one of the victims in the weeks leading up to his testimony, despite the fact the now 26-year-old had cut off all contact with Sandusky two years prior.

She left a message on Victim 7's phone saying the matter was 'very important' but the man, who told the Grand Jury that as a ten-year-old in 1994, Sandusky hugged and inappropriately touched him, did not return the call.

<snipped>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060914/Jerry-Sandusky-Penn-State-sex-abuse-Why-did-Jerry-wife-abuse-victim-weeks-testimony.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


I think it was a different kid she tried to contact?  This kid is older.  The boy the coach saw in the shower was about 10 years old.  The crime happened in 2002 which is 9 years ago.  That boy would be about 19 or 20 now.

Quote
Mrs Sandusky, 68, attempted to call one of the victims in the weeks leading up to his testimony, despite the fact the now 26-year-old had cut off all contact with Sandusky two years prior.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 11:11:40 PM
Grand Jury Transcript

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf


I was trying to avoid reading this until you posted in yesterday.  I read most of it and it's just sickening how this guy operated.  Same routine over and over.

It was said he was offered other jobs at other colleges and he declined.  He declined because he didn't want to go to far from the Foundation he created.  It was easy access for him to get the kids.  If he moved it wouldn't be so easy.  He knew exactly what he had and what he created.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 14, 2011, 11:16:41 PM
San

Maybe the 10 year old 2002 rape victim who would currently be approximately 19 years old was contacted by Dorothy and was "persuaded" not to testify against Jerry.

Could the 2002 rape victim be who Jerry/attorney is referring to in tonight's interview?

Gotta go.

Janet

+++++

His lawyer said they expect some of those kids come forward and say this never happened.  He said he located one of the kids.  He said isn't that funny.  They found the kid and the commonwealth didn't.

Of course they found the kid Jerry Sandusky told him his name. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 14, 2011, 11:22:41 PM
I really wonder if Ray Gricar was bothered by what he knew and planned to reveal his knowledge after his retirement.  There is a reason why that man's body has never been found.  Suicide just doesn't make sense to me.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 11:27:02 PM
San

Maybe the 10 year old 2002 rape victim who would currently be approximately 19 years old was contacted by Dorothy and was "persuaded" not to testify against Jerry.

Could the 2002 rape victim be who Jerry/attorney is referring to in tonight's interview?


Gotta go.

Janet

+++++

His lawyer said they expect some of those kids come forward and say this never happened.  He said he located one of the kids.  He said isn't that funny.  They found the kid and the commonwealth didn't.

Of course they found the kid Jerry Sandusky told him his name. ::MonkeyMad::

I'm not sure Janet.  I know they said they found someone and he is coming forward.  When asked you found one of the boys?  He said yes and we found him and the commonwealth didn't.  To me it makes it even more strange they he had this boys number.  His wife needs to go to jail along with her husband.

At the end of the day if that is in fact the boy the other coach saw in the shower then it's going to be his word against Sandusky.  I believe the coach saw what he saw and now they are saying there is more to the story.  What if the boy in the shower doesn't want anyone to know what happened to him and he is going to deny what happened.  THE COACH SAW WHAT HAPPENED.  Sandusky brushed it off by saying the slapping sound that was heard was him goofing off in the show and slapping a towel around.

Sandusky seems to be running his mouth off.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 11:30:06 PM
I really wonder if Ray Gricar was bothered by what he knew and planned to reveal his knowledge after his retirement.  There is a reason why that man's body has never been found.  Suicide just doesn't make sense to me.

I agree. He had everything to live for and had no problems from what I read.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 14, 2011, 11:42:10 PM
Here is the Bob Costas interview from TMZ.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/14/jerry-sandusky-bob-costas-video/#.TsHsvVbAGq0


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 15, 2011, 06:08:19 AM
These salaries are ridiculous. There is no way being Ceo of a charity most of us never heard of until last week is worth paying that much. It only makes the "pimping" rumors more plausible.
Second Mile official had concerns about Jerry Sandusky and certain boys in 2008
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/second_mile_executive_katherin.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 15, 2011, 06:27:57 AM
Mike McQueary To Former Teammates: "I Didn’t Just Turn And Run … I Made Sure It Stopped"

Via Peter Alexander of NBC Nightly News, Penn State receivers coach Mike McQueary has sent an email to former teammates. McQueary, who played at Penn State in the 1990s, was the one who told the grand jury he had witnessed Jerry Sandusky raping a child in a Penn State shower in 2002, when McQueary was a graduate assistant coach. In a series of tweets from Alexander's feed, he quotes McQueary as saying, "I did the right thing...you guys know me...the truth is not out there fully...I didn't just turn and run...I made sure it stopped...I had to make quick tough decisions..." [@PeterAlexander; photo via AP]

http://deadspin.com/5859494/ (http://deadspin.com/5859494/)


I hope this is true and McQueary pummeled Sandusky!


I don't believe him. It's finally sinking in to him what a sorry POS would do something like he did.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 15, 2011, 06:54:20 AM
Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' but insists he's innocent

By the CNN Wire Staff
updated 5:55 AM EST, Tue November 15, 2011

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/apps/cvp/3.0/swf/cnn_416x234_embed.swf?context=embed&videoId=bestoftv/2011/11/14/sot-rock-center-costas-sandusky-nbc.cnn

State College, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky insisted in an interview Monday night he is "innocent" of charges that he sexually abused young boys, denying to NBC's Bob Costas that he's a pedophile.

In a telephone interview with NBC's "Rock Center With Brian Williams," Sandusky admitted that some details in the graphic 23-page grand jury report released earlier this month are correct.

"I could say I have done some of those things," he said. "I have horsed around with kids I have showered (with) after workouts. I have hugged them, and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact."

Still, Sandusky claimed he has been falsely accused of crimes. When pressed, the 67-year-old Sandusky said the only thing he did wrong was having "showered with those kids."

Costas asked directly: "Are you sexually attracted to underage boys?"

Sandusky repeated the question, paused, and responded, "No. I enjoy young people."

Asked if then-head football coach Joe Paterno had ever spoken to him about his behavior or expressed disapproval, Sandusky said simply, "No."

And asked if he felt guilty over the spreading fallout that has affected the university and prominent university figures including the fired Paterno, Sandusky responded, "I don't think it was my fault. I obviously played a part in this ... I shouldn't have showered with those kids. That's what hits me the most."

Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, said Monday night that showering with children does not equate automatically to sexual assault.

"Jerry Sandusky is a big, overgrown kid. He's a jock," Amendola told CNN's Jason Carroll. "The bottom line is jocks do that -- they kid around, they horse around."

But CNN legal analyst Sunny Hostin said she thinks a crime has already been committed, based on Sandusky's own admissions.

"It's such a classic fact pattern for him to admit that he showered with these children and horsed around and confessed to touching them," she said on CNN's "AC360." "In my mind, that's already misdemeanor child sex abuse. So I disagree when the attorney says nothing criminal happened here. That, in and of itself, is criminal ... I'm flabbergasted."


 ::snipping2::

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/15/us/pennsylvania-sandusky-case/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 15, 2011, 07:10:10 AM
Maybe I should head over to the local high school and see if I can take a shower with the cheerleaders, just to horse around , don't worry.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 08:32:13 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/8834687-418/sandusky-denies-abusing-boys-ny-times-says-theres-more-suspected-victims.html
Sandusky denies abusing boys; N.Y. Times says there’s more suspected victims
November 14, 2011

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In a telephone interview Monday night on NBC News’ “Rock Center,” Bob Costas asked Jerry Sandusky if he’s a pedophile and Sandusky responded, “No.”

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Sandusky, once considered veteran coach Joe Paterno’s heir apparent, was arrested more than a week ago and is charged with sexually abusing eight boys, some on Penn State property, over a 15-year span.

“I am innocent of those charges,” the 67-year-old Sandusky said. “... I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them, and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact.”

Asked whether he was sexually attracted to underaged boys, he said “Sexually attracted, no. I enjoy young people, I love to be around them, but, no, I’m not sexually attracted to young boys.”

Asked if there was anything he had done wrong, Sandusky said, “I shouldn’t have showered with those kids.”
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The interview with Costas was Sandusky’s first public comment on the charges. He had previously maintained his innocence through his attorney, Joe Amendola.

A spokesman for Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly declined to comment on the interview, citing the active investigation.

Sandusky’s remarks came the same night that Amendola, told CNN that his client was just behaving like “a jock.”

“Jerry Sandusky is a big overgrown kid,” Amendola said. “He’s a jock, and for anybody who’s ever played sports, you get showers after you work out.”

Wide receivers coach Mike McQueary told a grand jury that in March 2001 when he was a graduate assistant, he saw Sandusky sodomizing a boy about 10 years old in a shower at the Nittany Lions’ practice center. McQueary did not go to police but instead told Paterno, Curley and Schultz, although it is unclear how detailed a description he gave. Schultz, in turn, notified Spanier.

Sandusky told NBC that only “horseplay” was involved.

“We were showering and horsing around, and he actually turned all the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor, and we were, as I recall, possibly like snapping a towel — horseplay,” he said.

Amendola accused the attorney general’s office of having “thrown everything they can throw up against the wall.” He said some of the allegations, such as putting a hand on a boy’s knee, do not constitute criminal conduct and other cases include no direct complaint by the boy.

“They have other people who are saying they saw something, but they don’t have actual people saying, ‘This is what Jerry did to me,” Amendola said. “We’re working to find those people, and when the time comes, and if we are able to do that, we think this whole case will change dramatically.”
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When Sandusky retired in 1999, at just 55, he cited his desire to devote more time to The Second Mile, a charity he founded in 1977 to help at-risk kids. According to the grand jury report, however, Sandusky was a sexual predator who used the charity and his Penn State connections to prey on young boys.

Though he was not particularly close with Paterno, he remained a familiar sight around the Penn State football complex. He was given an office in the East Area Locker building, across the street from the football building, as part of his retirement package, and would take Second Mile kids around the football facilities.

Sandusky said Paterno never asked him about his behavior or what he might have done.

The Sandusky interview came on the day when it was announced the president of The Second Mile had resigned. Jack Raykovitz, a practicing psychologist who had led the group for 28 years, said he hoped his resignation, accepted Sunday, would help restore faith in the group’s mission. The Second Mile also announced it had hired Philadelphia’s longtime district attorney as its new general counsel.

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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 15, 2011, 11:03:47 AM
Does anyone really think that this charity has a chance in the devil's hometown of ever benefiting a child ever again?  Come on, wake up and smell the sports creme.  What parent in her right mind is going to let her child be involved in this group?  They might as well shut the doors and go home.  How many of us believe that this 'charity' was started for the sole purpose of supplying Sandusky with victims...1 hand raised here!


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 11:43:49 AM
Here is the Bob Costas interview from TMZ.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/14/jerry-sandusky-bob-costas-video/#.TsHsvVbAGq0

Thanks San

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 11:59:19 AM
Joseph Amendola, Lawyer For Jerry Sandusky, Hints At New Information With Bob Costas
First Posted: 11/15/11 03:04 AM ET Updated: 11/15/11 08:21 AM ET


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/joe-amendola-lawyer-jerry-sandusky-costas-interview_n_1094163.html


Video/Audio:  Bob Costas and Joseph Amendola interview with Jerry Sandusky.

Transcript:  Bob Costas Interview with Jerry Sandusky's attorney.

 
 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 12:04:07 PM
Joseph Amendola, Lawyer For Jerry Sandusky, Hints At New Information With Bob Costas
First Posted: 11/15/11 03:04 AM ET Updated: 11/15/11 08:21 AM ET


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/joe-amendola-lawyer-jerry-sandusky-costas-interview_n_1094163.html


Video/Audio:  Bob Costas and Joseph Amendola interview with Jerry Sandusky.

Transcript:  Bob Costas Interview with Jerry Sandusky's attorney


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 15, 2011, 12:13:59 PM
  ‘Perv’ coach’s lawyer knocked up teen: report
 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/perv_coach_lawyer_knocked_up_teen_pkbg3H2aFyOlwspQJQnqVN


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 15, 2011, 12:16:44 PM
  ‘Perv’ coach’s lawyer knocked up teen: report
 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/perv_coach_lawyer_knocked_up_teen_pkbg3H2aFyOlwspQJQnqVN
Who better to represent a pedophile than an expert?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 12:23:38 PM
Former Penn State Defensive Coach Jerry Sandusky Admits Showering & Horsing Around with Little Boys but says He is Not a Pedophile
 
This story might be one of the biggest WTF ever!!!

Good grief, Jerry Sandusky’s comments sound an awful lot like,  I smoked pot but I never inhaled.

<snipped>

Posted November 14, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/11/14/former-penn-state-defensive-coach-jerry-sandusky-admitts-showering-horsing-around-with-little-boys-but-says-he-is-not-a-pedophile/



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 12:38:56 PM
  ‘Perv’ coach’s lawyer knocked up teen: report
 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/perv_coach_lawyer_knocked_up_teen_pkbg3H2aFyOlwspQJQnqVN

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 12:48:35 PM
The entire Jerry Sandusky scandal reveals betrayal after betrayal by adults who put their own selfish motivations above the well being of our children.

Janet



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 15, 2011, 12:49:00 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/15/full-transcript-bob-costas-interviews-former-penn-state-football-coach-jerry-sandusky-on-child-sex-abuse-allegations/
11:50 am ET November 15, 2011
FULL TRANSCRIPT: Bob Costas Interviews Former Penn State Football Coach Jerry Sandusky on Child Sex Abuse Allegations
by Fox News Insider Posted in: Bob Costas, Child Sex Abuse Allegations, Jerry Sandusky, NBC, Penn State, Rock Center 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 01:24:39 PM
Jerry Sandusky to Bob Costas in exclusive 'Rock Center' interview: 'I shouldn't have showered with those kids.'
Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:18 PM EST.


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I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact," said Sandusky.

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Video:
http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/14/8804779-jerry-sandusky-to-bob-costas-in-exclusive-rock-center-interview-i-shouldnt-have-showered-with-those-kids


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 15, 2011, 03:20:43 PM
Crime victims rally, lawmakers push to strengthen abuse-reporting laws in wake of Penn State scandal
 

Many of the bills have been introduced in the last several legislative sessions, but have failed to get floor consideration in part because of  staunch opposition from the insurance industry and the Pennsylvania Catholic Conference, the state’s advocacy arm for the Roman Catholic Church.
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/crime_victims_rally_lawmakers.html


   


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 03:21:05 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/15/us/pennsylvania-sandusky-case/index.html
Penn State coach: Team won't decline bowl bid
November 15, 2011

CNN) -- Penn State's interim coach knocked down rumors Tuesday that the embattled football team would decline a bowl bid at season's end.

"We've been assured that's not the case for the bowl game," Tom Bradley told reporters at a news conference. He also said that the possibility of the team not playing next year hasn't come up.
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The national spectacle has outraged and embarrassed Penn State students and alumni. An alumni-led effort has raised $372,000 for abuse victims in less than a week, a Twitter message said Tuesday.

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School trustees fired university President Graham Spanier and Paterno last week on the heels of Sandusky's arrest, while McQueary was put on administrative leave.

On Monday, in an indication of the scandal's fallout spreading beyond Penn State, U.S. Navy spokeswoman Lt. Cmdr. Alana Garas said that the U.S. Navy secretary recommended that Spanier "be removed from the board of advisers to the presidents of the Naval Postgraduate School and Naval War College."

Also on Monday, the board of directors for Second Mile announced that its CEO had resigned. The board issued a statement saying it believes the departure of the CEO of 28 years, Jack Raykovitz, a licensed psychologist, "is in the best interests of the organization."

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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 05:52:19 PM
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2011/11/10/jerry_sandusky_profile_the_most_unfortunate_one_ever_written.html
The Most Unfortunate Jerry Sandusky Profile Ever Written
November 10, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 06:00:04 PM
 :2thinky: :2thinky:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7238963/penn-state-nittany-lions-scandal-mike-mcqueary-says-stopped-assault-talked-cops-according-report
Report: Mike McQueary sought police
Updated November 15, 2011

Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary told a friend in an email that he stopped an alleged rape of a boy in 2002 by former Penn State assistant Jerry Sandusky and discussed it with police, The Morning Call of Allentown, Pa. reported.

In the email, obtained by The Morning Call, McQueary, a key witness in the case, said he "did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police" after the alleged incident.

In the email, dated Nov. 8, McQueary said "I did stop it, not physically, but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room," The Morning Call reported.

McQueary declined to be interviewed and a message for his lawyer was not returned, the newspaper reported. State College police did not return a call seeking comment, according to the report.

CBS News, on its official Twitter page, said McQeary was to speak publicly for the first time since the scandal broke on Tuesday night's telecast.
The former Penn State quarterback has faced immense criticism for not calling police, interrupting the alleged assault or, in the nine years since he was an eyewitness, demanded answers about why Sandusky was never charged.

Sandusky has been charged with molesting eight boys in 15 years, with some of the alleged abuse taking place at the Penn State football complex. He has said he is innocent and made his case in a national television interview on NBC on Monday night.

In the email, McQueary wrote he "is getting hammered for handling this the right way or what I thought at the time was right," The Morning Call reported.

McQueary testified in a grand jury investigation that eventually led to child sex-abuse charges being filed against Sandusky, the defensive coordinator at Penn State. The ensuing scandal brought down longtime coach Joe Paterno, who was fired by university trustees amid growing criticism that he should have done more to stop the alleged abuse. University president Graham Spanier was also dismissed.

McQueary testified that after witnessing the alleged assault, he left the building, called his father and the next day told Paterno what he saw.

McQueary, who was a graduate assistant at the time of the alleged assault, was placed on administrative leave on Friday, a day after the school said the receivers coach would not be present at the team's game against Nebraska, because he had received threats.

In another email reported by NBC News on Monday night, McQueary told friends that he did the right thing.

"I didn't just turn and run ... I made sure it stopped ... I had to make quick tough decisions," he said in the email, according to the report.

In an interview with ABC News, Sandusky attorney Joe Amendola explained why he let Sandusky go on national TV to discuss the allegations.

"I think it's important, regardless of what people's mindset, ... for people to hear Jerry Sandusky say 'I did not sexually assault kids. I love kids. They're my life. That's why I created the Second Mile.' And I think people need to hear that from him."

And, preliminary hearings for former Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and former university vice president Gary Schultz were postponed after state prosecutors requested a delay.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 06:02:57 PM
http://www.ajc.com/sports/mcqueary-email-i-stopped-1226629.html
McQueary email: I stopped Sandusky, went to police
November 15, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Mike McQueary told a friend from Penn State that he stopped an alleged assault by Jerry Sandusky on a 10-year-old boy in 2002 and went to the police about it.
In the email dated Nov. 8 from McQueary's Penn State account and made available to The Associated Press by his friend on Tuesday, the assistant coach writes that he stopped the sexual assault and discussed it with police afterward.

"I am getting hammered for handling this the right way ... or what I thought at the time was right," he says. "I had to make tough impacting quick decisions."
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Video at link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 06:05:05 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/11/15/bloomberg_articlesLUQ18M1A74E9.DTL
Penn State's Public Ties May Limit Liability, Moody's Says
November 15, 2011

Nov. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Pennsylvania State University may have limited liability exposure to potential lawsuits stemming from the sex-abuse scandal that has engulfed the school, Moody's Investors Service said, citing the institution's state links.

The company is examining those relationships as well as revenue sources such as philanthropic support in a credit review, John Nelson, a Moody's analyst in New York, said today in a telephone interview. While the university in State College is a land-grant school and gets annual appropriations, it isn't part of the state's higher-education system and is immune from disclosure laws that apply to public records.

"Because this is an unprecedented development in many areas of liability risk, it may not be clear even to them what the situation is," Nelson said. "These are things that have to be decided by counsel and possibly the courts. It could just take a while to evolve."

Citing the scandal, Moody's put Penn State's Aa1 credit rating on review for a possible cut last week after Jerry Sandusky, the football team's former defensive coordinator, was charged with sexually assaulting boys as young as 10 at the school.  <snip>


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
Let me see.  Have I got this straight?

Mike McQueary observes a 10 year old boy being sodomized by Jerry Sandusky.  McQueary's presence implies that the assault ceases.  This 28 year old adult then departs from the scene and leaves the child with Sandusky.  Despicable!!

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 06:30:25 PM
Let me see.  Have I got this straight?

Mike McQueary observes a 10 year old boy being sodomized by Jerry Sandusky.  McQueary's presence implies that the assault ceases.  This 28 year old adult then departs from the scene and leaves the child with Sandusky.  Despicable!!

Janet


Janet, I'm just not sure any of us have anything straight at this juncture.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 15, 2011, 06:42:00 PM
Let me see.  Have I got this straight?

Mike McQueary observes a 10 year old boy being sodomized by Jerry Sandusky.  McQueary's presence implies that the assault ceases.  This 28 year old adult then departs from the scene and leaves the child with Sandusky.  Despicable!!

Janet


Janet, I'm just not sure any of us have anything straight at this juncture.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

What those who sexually abuse children and ... those who cover up for the absusers forget ... these children do not stay children and ... they have nightmares that forever etched into their memories.

I am thankful that in today's society adults who were sexually abused as children are empowered to speak out.

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 08:40:14 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/sandusky-proclaims-innocence-nbc-interview-14953575
Email, TV Talk Add New Twists to Penn State Case
November 15, 2011

A former Penn State graduate assistant cited by a grand jury report as claiming he saw an ex-assistant football coach sexually abusing a young boy in a campus locker room shower says in an email he made sure the act was stopped and then went to police — contradicting what the report says.

Mike McQueary's comments, in an email made available to The Associated Press on Tuesday, appeared to add more confusion to a scandal that has enveloped the university and resulted in the firing of head coach Joe Paterno, the ousting of president Graham Spanier and charges of perjury against the athletic director and a senior vice president.

McQueary, now the football team's wide receivers coach, told a friend from Penn State that he made sure the 2002 shower assault he witnessed was stopped and went to the police about it. The friend made McQueary's email, written Nov. 8, available to the AP on Tuesday on the condition he not be identified.

McQueary, who has been placed on administrative leave and did not coach in Saturday's 17-14 loss to Nebraska, wrote: "I did stop it, not physically ... but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room ... I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police .... no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds ... trust me."
Added McQueary: "Do with this what you want ... but I am getting hammered for handling this the right way ... or what I thought at the time was right ... I had to make tough impacting quick decisions."

According to the grand jury report, McQueary testified he spoke to his father and then to Paterno before speaking to athletic director Tim Curley and senior vice president Gary Schultz, who oversaw campus police. Paterno has not been charged with any crime, and state prosecutors have said he is not a target. Curley and Schultz are accused of breaking the law by not going to police but maintain their innocence.
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McQueary's remarks in the email to his friend came less than a day after former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky's admission that he showered with and "horsed around" with boys stunned legal observers. Sandusky's comments, they said, could be used by prosecutors trying to convict him of child sex abuse charges.

Experts in criminal law and crisis management questioned Sandusky's decision to give a TV interview in which he said that there was no abuse and that any activities in a campus shower with a boy were just horseplay, not molestation.

"Mr. Sandusky goes on worldwide television and admits he did everything the prosecution claims he did, except for the ultimate act of rape or sodomy? If I were a prosecutor, I'd be stunned," said Lynne Abraham, the former district attorney of Philadelphia. "I was stunned, and then I was revolted."


Abraham, who led a grand jury probe involving 63 accused priests from the Philadelphia archdiocese, was retained this week to lead an internal investigation of Sandusky's charity, The Second Mile, from which he's accused of culling his victims.
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 15, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/15/sanduskys-charity-tied-to-fundraiser-for-judge-who-set-bail-on-child-sex/

Sandusky's Charity Tied to Fundraiser for Judge Who Set Bail on Child Sex Charges

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/15/sanduskys-charity-tied-to-fundraiser-for-judge-who-set-bail-on-child-sex/#ixzz1dpe11zwh


Time for the judge to step down.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: nomad on November 15, 2011, 10:07:45 PM
Paterno Turns Home Over to Wife for $1

Source: NY Times

Joe Paterno transferred full ownership of his house to his wife, Sue, for $1 in July, less than four months before a sexual abuse scandal engulfed his Penn State football program and the university.

Documents filed in Centre County, Pa., show that on July 21, Paterno’s house near campus was turned over to “Suzanne P. Paterno, trustee” for a dollar plus “love and affection.” The couple had previously held joint ownership of the house, which they bought in 1969 for $58,000.

According to documents filed with the county, the house’s fair-market value was listed at $594,484.40. Wick Sollers, a lawyer for Paterno, said in an e-mail that the Paternos had been engaged in a “multiyear estate planning program,” and the transfer “was simply one element of that plan.” He said it had nothing to do with the scandal.

Paterno, who was fired as the football coach at the university last week, has been judged harshly by many for failing to take more aggressive action when he learned of a suspected sexual assault of a child by one of his former top assistants.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/sports/ncaafootball/i...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 10:25:56 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/15/us/pennsylvania-sandusky-case/?hpt=hp_bn2
Lawyers for Penn State officials blast move to delay hearing
November 15, 2011

CNN) -- Lawyers for two Penn State University officials charged with failing to report sexual abuse claims against a former football coach blasted prosecutors Tuesday for trying to delay an upcoming hearing, saying their clients deserve a speedy trial.

Pennsylvania's attorney general's office filed court papers Tuesday saying it was "not available to proceed" with a preliminary hearing for Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, the senior vice president for finance and business. The hearing had been set for Thursday.

The attorney general's office proposed several dates in early December as an alternative, but offered no further explanation for the requested delay.

But Curley and Schultz "are anxious to face their accusers, clear their good names and go on with their lives," their attorneys said in a joint written statement.

"Our clients have a right to a speedy trial. By law, they have a right to have a preliminary hearing by Thursday, November 17. We are ready to go," they said.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 10:33:49 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/15/state-investigating-sanduskys-charity-as-founder-faces-child-sex-abuse-charges/
State Investigating Ex-Penn State Coach Sandusky's Charity Amid Child Sex Abuse Case
November 15, 2011

The Second Mile charity founded by Jerry Sandusky is under investigation by the Pennsylvania attorney general's office as part of a probe into what the group's officers may have known about the former Penn State coach's alleged sexual abuse of young boys, officials tell FoxNews.com.

Sources said among the investigation's aims are to determine when Second Mile officials became aware of Sandusky's alleged behavior; whether charity funds were used to lavish gifts on the boys involved, and if the alleged sexual abuse occurred at Second Mile locations across the state.
The probe into the charity was described as a second prong of the larger investigation into the allegations against Sandusky, Nicholas Winkler, spokesman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, said.

"The AG is now running point on this, the Second Mile investigation," Winkler said.
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Winkler said the State Department and the attorney general have shared jurisdiction over the investigation of the embattled charity, but the attorney general took over the case "fairly recently."

The Department of State's Bureau of Charitable Organizations director, Michael Patterson, also confirmed to FoxNews.com that Second Mile was under investigation.

Both officials said the attorney general's office had requested and received all available records relating to the charity's financial filings and other incorporation documents, all of which include the names of the charity's state-wide board of directors and other employees.

They said everything in the documents would be scrutinized, including grant recipients like the University of Pittsburgh, which received $15,000 grant "children" services from the Second Mile in 2009. Camps and activities were held at Penn State satellite campuses all around the state, according to the documents.

The investigation also will look at whether Sandusky misappropriated charitable funds -- checking, for example, if he purchased gifts for boys he is accused of molesting.
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The longtime head of Second Mile, Jack Raykovitz, resigned on Sunday, the latest casualty in the ongoing fallout of the Sandusky case. But Raykovitz's wife, Katherine Genovese -- the second-highest-paid Second Mile employee -- remains in her position at the charity's State College, Pa., office.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2011, 11:21:20 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/sports/ncaafootball/in-july-paterno-transferred-ownership-of-home-to-his-wife-for-1.html
Paterno Turns Home Over to His Wife for $1
November 15, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno transferred full ownership of his house to his wife, Sue, for $1 in July, less than four months before a sexual abuse scandal engulfed his Penn State football program and the university.
Documents filed in Centre County, Pa., show that on July 21, Paterno’s house near campus was turned over to “Suzanne P. Paterno, trustee” for a dollar plus “love and affection.” The couple had previously held joint ownership of the house, which they bought in 1969 for $58,000.

According to documents filed with the county, the house’s fair-market value was listed at $594,484.40. Wick Sollers, a lawyer for Paterno, said in an e-mail that the Paternos had been engaged in a “multiyear estate planning program,” and the transfer “was simply one element of that plan.” He said it had nothing to do with the scandal.

Paterno, who was fired as the football coach at the university last week, has been judged harshly by many for failing to take more aggressive action when he learned of a suspected sexual assault of a child by one of his former top assistants.

Some legal experts, in trying to gauge the legal exposure of the university and its top officials to lawsuits brought by suspected victims of the assistant, Jerry Sandusky, have theorized that Paterno could be a target of civil actions. On Nov. 5, Sandusky, Penn State’s former defensive coordinator, was charged with 40 counts related to the reported sexual abuse of eight boys over 15 years. Paterno, 84, was among those called to give testimony before a grand jury during the investigation, which began in 2009.

Experts in estate planning and tax law, in interviews, cautioned that it would be hard to determine the Paternos’ motivation simply from the available documents. It appears the family house had been the subject of years of complex and confusing transactions.

Lawrence A. Frolik, a law professor at the University of Pittsburgh who specializes in elder law, said that he had “never heard” of a husband selling his share of a house for $1 to his spouse for tax or government assistance purposes.

“I can’t see any tax advantages,” Frolik said. “If someone told me that, my reaction would be, ‘Are they hoping to shield assets in case if there’s personal liability?’ ” He added, “It sounds like an attempt to avoid personal liability in having assets in his wife’s name.”


Two lawyers examined the available documents in recent days. Neither wanted to be identified because they were not directly involved in the case or the property transaction. One of the experts said it appeared to be an explicit effort to financially shield Joe Paterno. The other regarded the July transaction, at least on its face, as benign.

Last Wednesday, the university’s board of trustees fired Paterno and Graham B. Spanier, the university’s president.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 16, 2011, 06:10:27 AM
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Joe Amendola-led media blitz shaky defense for Jerry Sandusky in Penn State child sex abuse case

Small-time lawyer Amendola making his own strange news

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Originally Published: Tuesday, November 15 2011, 11:20 PM
Updated: Wednesday, November 16 2011, 3:45 AM

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Lawyer Joe Amendola appears with Bob Costas on NBC and doesn't seem to do his client, Jerry Sandusky,
any favors by having him speak about the child sex abuse allegations.



We talk about the presumption of innocence in this country, and the law says that it is supposed to apply even to Jerry Sandusky. The law says it applies to Sandusky even after Joe Paterno has already said he should have done more about Sandusky, and after Mike McQueary tells the grand jury what he saw once in a Penn State shower room, Sandusky with a 10-year-old boy pressed up against a shower room wall.

Joe Amendola, the lawyer who represents Sandusky around trying to make himself famous, talks and talks about how his client deserves that presumption of innocence, even after Amendola - in a creepy, lounge lizard way - sends Sandusky out to look guiltier than ever during that interview with Bob Costas on “Rock Center” Monday night.

At that moment, the unspeakable out of Penn State turns stupid, because of a small-time lawyer.

Here was Tom Harvey, the New York City criminal and civil rights attorney who has been in this paper for more than a week making so much sense out of his own outrage about this Penn State story, talking Tuesday about Amendola:

“He seems more focused on getting himself on as many national news shows as he can, rather than protecting his client. This is rather ironic, since the only person in the United States legally obligated to vigilantly defend Sandusky has taken it upon himself to encourage his client to waive the most basic constitutional right every criminal defendant in the country has, which means the right to remain silent. Instead, this guy Amendola has practically begged his client to talk.”

In the morning Tuesday, I was talking to Bob Costas, and he told the story of getting the telephone interview with Sandusky Monday night. He, Costas, had reached out to this Amendola the week before, set up an interview with him. Amendola showed up at NBC Monday night and about 15 minutes before that interview was to begin, he said to Costas, “How about I put you on the telephone with Jerry?”

He gave up his own client in that moment, not that anybody cares about that happening to Jerry Sandusky.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/joe-amendola-led-media-blitz-shaky-defense-jerry-sandusky-penn-state-child-sex-abuse-case-article-1.978218#ixzz1driXTL00




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: _icey_ on November 16, 2011, 09:26:45 AM
Here is the Jerry Sandusky grand jury report! WARNING! This court document contains graphic descriptions!


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/documents/sandusky-grand-jury-report11052011.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 09:41:21 AM
Here is the Jerry Sandusky grand jury report! WARNING! This court document contains graphic descriptions!


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/documents/sandusky-grand-jury-report11052011.html

_icey_, thanks for posting the link to the grand jury report.  We have an existing thread about Jerry Sandusky, so I'll merge your post with it.  MB





Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: _icey_ on November 16, 2011, 09:50:19 AM
Sorry somehow this got posted in the wrong place. I posted it under sports if you'd like to delete this one. Thank you.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: _icey_ on November 16, 2011, 09:52:11 AM
Thank you MuffyBee!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 10:27:44 AM
Sorry somehow this got posted in the wrong place. I posted it under sports if you'd like to delete this one. Thank you.

_icey_  There were actually three different places I considered before I started the thread about the charges brought against Jerry Sandusky, which included "Sports", "News of the Day" and "Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled".  I chose the latter, even though any of the three could have applied, because to me, what Jerry Sandusky has done isn't so much about sports or big news, it's Crimes against Children. It's not a sex scandal, it's not about Penn State Football as much as  it's about child rape.  JMHO  That Jerry Sandusky used the Penn State Football program and their facilities along with The Second Mile makes it all the more terrible.   The grand jury report speaks volumes.  And I agree, there are "graphic descriptions".  And I personally think this is just the tip of the iceberg.  Thank you again for bringing the link to the report. 



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 12:04:08 PM
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/15/ex-psu-grad-assistant-matt-paknis-on-wfan-paterno-knows-everything/
Ex-PSU Grad Assistant Matt Paknis On WFAN: Paterno Knows Everything
November 15, 2011

NEW YORK (WFAN) - A former child-abuse victim himself, former football grad assistant Matt Paknis believes Joe Paterno knew about Jerry Sandusky’s alleged sexual abuse against children years ago.

Paknis joined WFAN’s Mike Francesa on Tuesday to talk about his time at Penn State.
aknis was a graduate assistant on the Nittany Lions football staff in 1987 and 1988. He says Sandusky exhibited questionable behavior towards the players back then.

As a childhood victim of sexual abuse, he said he remembered thinking how inappropriate it was when he saw Sandusky tickle and pinch little boys during football camps, sometimes putting them in headlocks.

“I thought it was a boundary issue, more than anything else,” Paknis said.
 ::snipping2::
When asked about the possibility that Paterno could not be aware of reports on Sandusky’s behavior Paknis said it was “impossible.”

“Joe knows everything,” he said.


Paknis also said that he could envision a scenario where Paterno attempted to cover up Sandusky’s actions.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 16, 2011, 12:17:11 PM
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/15/ex-psu-grad-assistant-matt-paknis-on-wfan-paterno-knows-everything/
Ex-PSU Grad Assistant Matt Paknis On WFAN: Paterno Knows Everything
November 15, 2011

NEW YORK (WFAN) - A former child-abuse victim himself, former football grad assistant Matt Paknis believes Joe Paterno knew about Jerry Sandusky’s alleged sexual abuse against children years ago.

Paknis joined WFAN’s Mike Francesa on Tuesday to talk about his time at Penn State.
aknis was a graduate assistant on the Nittany Lions football staff in 1987 and 1988. He says Sandusky exhibited questionable behavior towards the players back then.

As a childhood victim of sexual abuse, he said he remembered thinking how inappropriate it was when he saw Sandusky tickle and pinch little boys during football camps, sometimes putting them in headlocks.

“I thought it was a boundary issue, more than anything else,” Paknis said.
 ::snipping2::
When asked about the possibility that Paterno could not be aware of reports on Sandusky’s behavior Paknis said it was “impossible.”

“Joe knows everything,” he said.


Paknis also said that he could envision a scenario where Paterno attempted to cover up Sandusky’s actions.
"Joe knows everything" is exactly what I now believe.  No successful sports program is run by a man in the dark.  He knew the men he had on staff.  JoePa has been in power at Penn State for a long time and he didn't do it by dumb luck. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 16, 2011, 12:25:50 PM
Hmmm....Sarah Palin says we should hang Jerry Sandusky from the highest tree and she'll bring the rope.

I like her thinking!


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 02:05:54 PM
Just dandy.  If Judge Dutchot had recused herself as she should have, some of what's mentioned in the article below might not even be an issue.  He's thinking about taking a trip before the next legal proceeding to "clear his head"!!??  No travel restrictions.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/16/us-usa-crime-coach-campus-idUSTRE7AF1WZ20111116
Penn State powerless to keep Sandusky off campus
November 16, 2011

(Reuters) - Penn State says alleged child sex abuser Jerry Sandusky is "not welcome" on its campus, but the university so far has no legal recourse to keep the former assistant football coach away.

In her bail ruling, Judge Leslie Dutchot ordered the former defensive coordinator not to have any contact with minors, witnesses or alleged victims.

The ruling placed no restrictions on his travel. Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, advised Sandusky and his wife to take a trip ahead of the next legal proceeding to clear his head, he told CNN.


In effect, Sandusky is free to return to the Penn State campus, something school officials are powerless to stop.

"Our legal counsel informed Jerry Sandusky that he is not welcome on our campus," Penn State spokeswoman AnneMarie Mountz said in an e-mail to Reuters on Wednesday.

Requests for information on a possible restraining order against Sandusky, or what officials would do if he tried to return to campus, were not immediately answered.

Nor was it clear if prosecutors would seek to alter Sandusky's bail conditions. Calls to the Pennsylvania attorney general's office were not immediately returned.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 16, 2011, 02:34:05 PM
McQueary needs to get his story straight;
Mike McQueary's statement to police doesn't say he stopped attack or notified police about Sandusky allegations
 

" Penn State assistant football coach Mike McQueary never mentioned that he talked to police in 2002 after witnessing an alleged sexual assault by Jerry Sandusky of a young boy, according to a hand-written statement McQueary gave to police during the recent grand jury investigation."
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mcquearys_statement_in_line_wi.html



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 16, 2011, 02:53:31 PM
State Investigating Ex-Penn State Coach Sandusky's Charity Amid Child Sex Abuse Case
By Jana Winter
Published November 15, 2011


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/15/state-investigating-sanduskys-charity-as-founder-faces-child-sex-abuse-charges/?test=latestnews



EXCLUSIVE: Charity's Donors Kept in Dark About Penn State Sex Abuse Investigation
By Mike Jaccarino
Published November 16, 2011


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/16/exclusive-charitys-donors-kept-in-dark-about-penn-state-sex-abuse-investigation/



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 03:03:17 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/lawyer-says-client-will-testify-to-severe-sexual-assault-in-sandusky-case.html
Lawyer Says Alleged Sandusky Victim Will Testify to Severe Sexual Assault
November 16, 2011

Ben Andreozzi, a Pennsylvania lawyer representing one of eight alleged victims in the Penn State sexual child abuse case, called Jerry Sandusky a “coward” on Wednesday and said that Sandusky’s recent comments on television had emboldened his client to pursue sexual assault charges against Sandusky.
“Mr. Sandusky suggested in some of his comments about the victims that maybe people were backing off,” Andreozzi said in a telephone interview from his office in Harrisburg, Pa. “My client heard that and has dug in his heels. He is feeling more comfortable about going through with this. The comments maybe backfired. They have caused victims to be more motivated to testify against him.”

Andreozzi said his client, now in his 20s, met Sandusky through Sandusky’s charity, the Second Mile. He said he had been around Sandusky for several years and was assaulted multiple times. Andreozzi has also advised other alleged victims in the case and said he was meeting with another potential victim this week.
 ::snipping2::
Andreozzi, who also issued a statement Wednesday, said his client would testify that he was “severely sexually assaulted” by Sandusky.



“I am appalled by the fact that Mr. Sandusky has elected to revictimize these young men at a time when they should be healing,” Andreozzi said. “He’s being a coward by refusing to admit to his culpability. Sexual assault victims can begin the healing process if there’s an acknowledgement of fault. Mr. Sandusky could assist in that process and instead he is putting these young men through it again.”

Andreozzi said he talked with his client after he had listened to Sandusky’s televised telephone interview.

“He was absolutely more ready to follow through with this afterward,” Andreozzi said. “He wants him to know he fully intends to testify he was severely sexually assaulted by Mr. Sandusky.”

Andreozzi added: “I have my finger on the pulse of this case. I don’t know of any existing assault victims changing their story or refusing to testify. To the contrary, others are actually coming forward.”

Andreozzi, whose practice has specialized in child sexual abuse cases, also said he was upset that Penn State had not reached out to any of the victims.

“They could have a victim-centric approach to this but it appears they have been in a face-saving mode,” Andreozzi said. “They could be proactive and offer to pay for counseling and let the victims participate in the rebuilding of the school. They could help to adopt policies and procedures that will prevent sexual assaults on the campus.

“This is a situation that is only going to grow. When I represent a sexual abuse victim, we start with one or maybe two clients but as the ball gets rolling forward, more victims almost always come forward.”


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 03:38:16 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/16/justice/pennsylvania-coach-abuse-timeline/index.html
A timeline of the Penn State child sex abuse scandal
November 16, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 03:46:25 PM


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45321304/ns/today-today_news/t/state-college-police-mcqueary-didnt-report-abuse-us/
State College police: McQueary didn't report abuse to us
Then-Penn State graduate assistant told friend in email he discussed alleged 2002 child sex assault by Jerry Sandusky with police

November 16, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — The State College police chief said Wednesday that former Penn State graduate assistant Mike McQueary never reported allegations of child sex abuse against Jerry Sandusky to the department.
"Absolutely not," State College Police Chief Tom King told NBC News when asked if McQueary had ever come to them with allegations concerning Sandusky, a former defensive coordinator for the Penn State football team.

"We don't have any records of him coming to us," King said.

McQueary, now an assistant football coach, wrote in a Nov. 8 email to a friend that he stopped an alleged sexual assault by Sandusky on a 10-year-old boy in 2002 and discussed it with police afterward.

"I did stop it, not physically ... but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room ... I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police .... no one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds ... trust me," he wrote.

The contents of the email were reported Tuesday by The Patriot-News, The Associated Press and other media outlets.

Pennsylvania State Police would not comment on whether McQueary spoke with them after the 2002 incident, citing an ongoing investigation.

McQueary's statements in the email appear to be at odds with a grand jury report that states that he saw Sandusky sexually assault a young boy in a shower at Penn State but never told law enforcement.

The summary of the testimony to jurors says McQueary witnessed the act, then left the locker room to call his father. He talked to head football coach Joe Paterno the next morning, and 10 days later told former athletic director Tim Curley and Vice President Gary Schultz, who oversaw campus police, the indictment against Sandusky said.
 ::snipping2::
The New York Times reported earlier this week that close to 10 additional suspected victims have come forward to the authorities since the arrest of Sandusky on Nov. 5.

Maria Finn, spokeswoman for Pennsylvania State Police, told NBC on Wednesday that the numbers reported by the Times and others "are wrong." She did not elaborate.

Finn said phone calls continue to come in to a police tip line.

Meanwhile, an Associated Press analysis of state public pension records shows Paterno's long service at the university theoretically puts him in line for a pension of more than $500,000 a year.

Paterno's pension records obtained Tuesday from the State Employees' Retirement System credit him with more than 60 years in the system. The formula used to determine benefits makes him eligible for a pension equal to 100 percent of the average of his three highest-salary years.

His pay rose from $541,000 to $568,000 over the past three full calendar years.
 ::snipping2::
The retirement system also confirmed Tuesday that Sandusky collects a $59,000 annual pension and withdrew $148,000 upon retirement.
Video at link.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 04:00:38 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/11/16/bloomberg_articlesLURRO007SXKX.DTL
Penn State Girl Out of Love With Paterno: Margaret Carlson
November 16, 2011


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 16, 2011, 04:31:06 PM
Judge Who Set Unsecured Bail For Jerry Sandusky Is a Second Mile Volunteer
Nov 13, 2011 3:51 PM


When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor.

District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

<snipped>

http://deadspin.com/5859075/


According to Breaking News on CNN ... Wolf Blitzer announced that District Judge Leslie Dutchcot will be replaced.  Dutchcot's ties with the Second Mile foundation was cited as the reason.

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 04:43:14 PM
Judge Who Set Unsecured Bail For Jerry Sandusky Is a Second Mile Volunteer
Nov 13, 2011 3:51 PM


When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor.

District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

<snipped>

http://deadspin.com/5859075/


According to Breaking News on CNN ... Wolf Blitzer announced that District Judge Leslie Dutchcot will be replaced.  Dutchcot's ties with the Second Mile foundation was cited as the reason.

Janet


Thank you for the update Janet.  I wonder who decided to take that action?  Judge Dutchcot should have recused herself in the first place, but since she didn't, it's good to see she wasn't allowed to continue in that capacity.  I was rather shocked (but not surprised) to learn he doesn't have travel restrictions, per Judge Dutchcot's bail ruling:  "The ruling placed no restrictions on his travel. Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, advised Sandusky and his wife to take a trip ahead of the next legal proceeding to clear his head, he told CNN."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/16/us-usa-crime-coach-campus-idUSTRE7AF1WZ20111116


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 04:46:25 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/jerry-sandusky-interview-bob-costas-jon-stewart-penn-state-262024
Jon Stewart Slams Jerry Sandusky for Bob Costas Interview: 'You Can't Even Bring Yourself to Lie Emphatically' (Video)
The "Daily Show" host criticizes the former Penn State football coach for choosing to "literally phone in your defense on national television."
November 15, 2011

Jon Stewart had some harsh words for former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky on the heels of the latter's interview with Bob Costas.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 04:55:20 PM
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/New-judge-assigned-in-Penn-St-sex-abuse-case-2271520.php
New judge assigned in Penn St. sex-abuse case
November 16, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — A new judge was assigned to handle Jerry Sandusky's child sex-abuse charges on Wednesday as a lawyer for a boy who accuses the former Penn State assistant football coach of abuse took aim at his televised defense.
 ::snipping2::
The Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts announced Wednesday that it was bringing in a Westmoreland County senior district judge to preside over Sandusky's preliminary hearing. Robert E. Scott is taking over the hearing from Centre County District Judge Leslie Dutchcot.

Dutchcot has donated money to The Second Mile, a charity established by Sandusky for at-risk children and the place where authorities say he met his victims.

The office said Scott has no known ties to Penn State or The Second Mile. The hearing is scheduled for Dec. 7.

Some plaintiffs' lawyers are starting to advertise on their websites for potential Sandusky victims, vowing to get justice.

Jeff Anderson, a St. Paul, Minn., attorney, has long represented clergy-abuse victims and told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he has been retained by several people he described as Sandusky victims.

"There's a great deal of fury and confusion," particularly because Sandusky is free on bail, Anderson said. "Getting (them) help and cooperating with law enforcement is our first priority."

The "time for reckoning," in the form of civil suits, will come later, Anderson said.

Anderson declined to say whether his clients are among the eight boys who were labeled as victims in the grand jury report.

Likewise, Berks County lawyer Jay Abramowitch, who has represented about 150 child-sex victims, many of them in clergy-abuse cases, said he is following the Penn State case closely. He declined to say if he was representing anyone accusing Sandusky of abuse.
"The real significance of what happened in the Sandusky situation is that people are beginning to understand the cover-up that goes on in any structural organization that employs a pedophile. And that's why these pedophiles are running wild," he said.

"What's the answer? One of the answers is to allow these victims the right to go to court and file suit against not only the pedophile, but the group that employed them ... and didn't do anything," Abramowitch said.

Abramowitch long fought to have the state extend the time limit for victims to file civil suits, a change made only after a 2005 grand jury report described years of abuse within the Philadelphia archdiocese.

In State College, Penn State announced a physician and member of its board of trustees who played football and wrestled for the school would serve as acting athletic director. The school named Dr. David M. Joyner, an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in sports medicine and a business consultant, as the interim replacement for Tim Curley.Curley is on leave as athletic director as he defends himself against criminal charges that he failed to properly alert authorities when told of an alleged sexual assault by Sandusky against a child, and that he lied to a grand jury.

Joyner's position on the board, where he has been a trustee since 2000, is being suspended as he takes on the new duties.

Also Wednesday, a central Pennsylvania police chief said his department did not receive reports from a then-Penn State graduate assistant who said he saw Sandusky raping a boy on campus in 2002.

The assistant, Mike McQueary, wrote in an email to a friend that was made available to The Associated Press that he had discussions with police about what he saw. In the email, McQueary did not specify which police department he spoke to.

State College borough police chief Tom King said McQueary didn't make a report to his department.

The university also has its own police force. Penn State administrators said they were looking into whether McQueary contacted campus police.

Meanwhile, U.S. Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., introduced a bill that would require all adults to report child abuse and neglect to police or local child protective agencies.

And new details were emerging about how the case ended up in the hands of the state attorney general's office.

Former Centre County District Attorney Michael Madeira told The Associated Press that his wife's brother — who he declined to name — was Sandusky's adopted son.

"I reviewed it and I made the decision it needed to be investigated further," Madeira said. "But the apparent conflict of interest created an impediment for me to make those kinds of decisions."

The scandal's fallout extended to former Pittsburgh Steelers great Franco Harris, whose relationship with a southwestern Pennsylvania racetrack and casino was put on hiatus after he chastised Penn State's trustees for showing "no courage" for firing Paterno, who has not been charged with a crime and is not considered a target of prosecutors.

Harris, who played for Paterno from 1968 to 1971, had recently signed on to be a spokesman for The Meadows Racetrack and Casino, located in Washington, Pa., about 30 minutes south of Pittsburgh. The track said it was a mutual decision.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 16, 2011, 04:59:24 PM
Judge Who Set Unsecured Bail For Jerry Sandusky Is a Second Mile Volunteer
Nov 13, 2011 3:51 PM


When Jerry Sandusky was initially arraigned, as previously reported by Sara Ganim, prosecutors requested $500,000.00 bail and that Sandusky be required to wear a leg monitor.

District Judge Leslie Dutchcot, however, ordered that Sandusky be freed on $100,000.00 unsecured bail. She ordered that Sandusky be freed and pay nothing unless he failed to show up for a court hearing.

<snipped>

http://deadspin.com/5859075/


According to Breaking News on CNN ... Wolf Blitzer announced that District Judge Leslie Dutchcot will be replaced.  Dutchcot's ties with the Second Mile foundation was cited as the reason.

Janet


Thank you for the update Janet.  I wonder who decided to take that action?  Judge Dutchcot should have recused herself in the first place, but since she didn't, it's good to see she wasn't allowed to continue in that capacity.  I was rather shocked (but not surprised) to learn he doesn't have travel restrictions, per Judge Dutchcot's bail ruling:  "The ruling placed no restrictions on his travel. Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, advised Sandusky and his wife to take a trip ahead of the next legal proceeding to clear his head, he told CNN."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/16/us-usa-crime-coach-campus-idUSTRE7AF1WZ20111116

MuffyBee

If convicted on these charges Jerry Sandusky faces the rest of his life in prison.  Logic dictates that he is a flight risk.  He has the connections and financially means.

I hope Sandusky is hauled back into court allowing the replacement judge to reconsider the prosecutor's request.

I believe that the investigation encompassing all aspects of this scandal should be handled by the FBI.  There are too many University and Second Miles conflicts of interest in this jurisdiction that imply accountability and justice will remain elusive.

IMO

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 05:08:38 PM
ITA Janet.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 16, 2011, 06:11:50 PM

Quote
I believe that the investigation encompassing all aspects of this scandal should be handled by the FBI.

Respectfully, I disagree.  Somehow the matter would end up with DOJ.  The innocent would be prosecuted; the guilty would go free; and Mexican drug dealers would be furnished with "fast and furious" guns to shoot the townspeople.

However, the FBI should handle crossing state lines with a minor if they can prove sexual activities during the 1999 Alamo Bowl.  Texas is on the case.  Maybe they will be successful.

It's disgusting that Sandusky is free to move around while the victims are terrified to move.  Hope the new Judge is a good one.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 16, 2011, 06:12:46 PM
It doesn't make sense.

If it has been determined that Dutchcot ruled the conditions of Sandusky's release while possessing a conflict ... why does her ruling still stand?  Without electronic monitoring .... Sandusky still remains a risk to children.  Without the confiscating of his passport ... Sandusky still remains a flight risk.

Janet

++++++

New judge assigned in Penn St. sex-abuse case
Updated 02:08 p.m., Wednesday, November 16, 2011


<snipped>

The Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts announced Wednesday that it was bringing in a Westmoreland County senior district judge to preside over Sandusky's preliminary hearing. Robert E. Scott is taking over the hearing from Centre County District Judge Leslie Dutchcot.

Dutchcot has donated money to The Second Mile, a charity established by Sandusky for at-risk children and the place where authorities say he met his victims.

The office said Scott has no known ties to Penn State or The Second Mile. The hearing is scheduled for Dec. 7.

<snipped>

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/New-judge-assigned-in-Penn-St-sex-abuse-case-2271520.php


DR. DREW
Aired November 15, 2011 - 21:00   ET


<snipped>

TRENT COPELAND, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: .... This is molestation of multiple children, and the fact that this judge let this guy walk out of the courtroom without posting anything, without taking his passport, without shackling his leg, without putting electronic monitor on that leg is outrageous.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/15/ddhln.01.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 06:15:11 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/11/16/bloomberg_articlesLURXB21A74E9.DTL
Penn State May Seek Immunity After Skirting Public Laws
November 16, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 16, 2011, 06:29:13 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/11/16/bloomberg_articlesLURXB21A74E9.DTL
Penn State May Seek Immunity After Skirting Public Laws
November 16, 2011



 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 06:44:44 PM
This story appears in the Nov. 21, 2011 issue of Sports Illustrated. Buy the digital version of the magazine at https://subscription.si.com/storefront/site/si-everywhere/login.html

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/magazine/11/16/penn.st/index.html
Special Report: Scandal. Shame. A search for answers at Penn State.
November 16, 2011
By L. Jon Wertheim and David Epstein

Story Highlights
Special report provides inside look at worst scandal in history of college sports
After Jerry Sandusky was charged with sexual abuse there were cries of cover-up
Joe Paterno, Penn State president lost jobs; more abuse victims still emerging



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 06:48:10 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-16/sexual-abuse/51245418/1
Lawyer calls on Penn State to 'free victims' souls'
November 16, 2011

As the Penn State abuse scandal blares in the news, hundreds of people around the country who were sexually abused as children will watch in legally imposed silence, says a Boston attorney and expert on such cases.
Each is sworn to confidentiality agreements that bind them to secrecy, says Mitchell Garabedian, the lawyer whose 2002 case blew open the Catholic Church abuse scandal worldwide.

Garabedian, who has represented 1,000 victims of clerical sexual abuse, says Penn State officials need to say publicly whether they have ever required victims to sign such agreements as a condition of settlements in sexual abuse cases.
All institutions, private and public, will try to persuade victims to sign confidentiality agreements that swear everyone — victims, perpetrators and enablers — to silence," he says. "Victims will often agree to silence because it's too painful for them to think about it or humiliating for them to be known publicly."

He called on Penn State officials to step up and "free victims' souls," as the Catholic Church did by releasing victims from silence.

In 2003, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops announced that thousands of confidential settlement agreements signed by dioceses across the country for decades were no longer to be enforced.

Carmen Durso, also a Boston-based attorney who handled hundreds of abuse cases, says victims almost always sign such agreements.

"Frequently, the institution will insist on confidentiality or the victim will have to go to court to get resolution," Durso says. "In my experience, 99% do not want to go public. It's a rare 1% who are able to speak out."

The National Crime Victims' Bar Association in general opposes confidentiality agreements, Executive Director Jeff Dion says. "The client is in control of whether to consent to it," he says.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 06:50:39 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/what-the-catholic-church-can-teach-us-about-the-penn-state-scandal/248588/?google_editors_picks=true
What the Catholic Church Can Teach Us About the Penn State Scandal
November 16, 2011

A conversation with Jason Berry, an investigative reporter who's written extensively about child molestation charges against the church


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 16, 2011, 08:49:35 PM


http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2011/11/16/pa_gov_puts_3m_sandusky_charity_grant_on_hold/
Pa. gov puts $3M Sandusky charity grant on hold
November 16, 2011





Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 17, 2011, 02:16:36 AM
Mike McQueary attended Jerry Sandusky fundraiser one year after making sexual assault allegations
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/mcqueary_attended_sandusky_fun.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 17, 2011, 08:56:38 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-16/franco-harris-splits-with-casino-after-supporting-penn-state-s-joe-paterno.html
Franco Harris Splits With Casino After Supporting Penn State’s Joe Paterno
November 16, 2011

Hall-of-Fame running back Franco Harris is no longer working for a Pennsylvania racetrack and casino after expressing his support for fired Penn State University coach Joe Paterno.

Harris, who played for Paterno from 1969-71 before a 13- year career in the National Football League, visited his former coach at his home on Nov. 13, four days after Paterno was fired amid a child sex-abuse scandal involving former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky.

Harris, 61, told reporters that the school’s board made a poor decision in removing Paterno and that “they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time,” according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

The Meadows, about 160 miles from of State College-based Penn State and near Pittsburgh, released a statement last night saying that it was parting ways with Harris.

“In light of the recent developments with Franco Harris regarding Joe Paterno’s dismissal, Franco and The Meadows have mutually decided to put their business relationship on hold at this time, while these matters are looked into further,” according to the statement.

 ::snipping2::
Harris and former Steelers teammate Rocky Bleier were hired by the Meadows in October to assist with various outreach activities, charitable events and public appearances, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 17, 2011, 09:57:28 AM
Inquiry Grew Into Concerns of a Cover-Up 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/internet-posting-helped-sandusky-investigators.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 17, 2011, 10:10:30 AM
Inquiry Grew Into Concerns of a Cover-Up 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/internet-posting-helped-sandusky-investigators.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all

Good article.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 17, 2011, 10:37:02 AM
Thanks, MuffyBee.

Quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/internet-posting-helped-sandusky-investigators.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4

Officials at the Second Mile, the charity for at-risk children that Sandusky founded and that prosecutors say he used to target victims, reported that several years of the organization’s records were missing and had perhaps been stolen. The missing files, investigators worry, may limit their ability to determine if Sandusky used charity resources — expense accounts, travel, gifts — to recruit new victims, or even buy their silence, according to two people with knowledge of the case.

(bold by me)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 17, 2011, 10:40:59 AM
Inquiry Grew Into Concerns of a Cover-Up 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/internet-posting-helped-sandusky-investigators.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 17, 2011, 10:43:38 AM
Thanks, MuffyBee.

Quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/internet-posting-helped-sandusky-investigators.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4

Officials at the Second Mile, the charity for at-risk children that Sandusky founded and that prosecutors say he used to target victims, reported that several years of the organization’s records were missing and had perhaps been stolen. The missing files, investigators worry, may limit their ability to determine if Sandusky used charity resources — expense accounts, travel, gifts — to recruit new victims, or even buy their silence, according to two people with knowledge of the case.

(bold by me)

slogger, the sentence you bolded is also what caught my eye in the article. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 17, 2011, 10:58:17 AM
http://verdict.justia.com/2011/11/17/the-universal-need-for-the-mandatory-reporting-of-child-sexual-abuse
The Universal Need for the Mandatory Reporting of Child Sexual Abuse
November 17, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 17, 2011, 10:58:58 AM
Thanks, MuffyBee.

Quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/internet-posting-helped-sandusky-investigators.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4

Officials at the Second Mile, the charity for at-risk children that Sandusky founded and that prosecutors say he used to target victims, reported that several years of the organization’s records were missing and had perhaps been stolen. The missing files, investigators worry, may limit their ability to determine if Sandusky used charity resources — expense accounts, travel, gifts — to recruit new victims, or even buy their silence, according to two people with knowledge of the case.

(bold by me)

slogger, the sentence you bolded is also what caught my eye in the article.  


Or lost on Ray Gricar's destroyed harddrive?
Edit-fixed quotes.  MB


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 17, 2011, 11:01:30 AM
Thanks, MuffyBee.

Quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/internet-posting-helped-sandusky-investigators.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4

Officials at the Second Mile, the charity for at-risk children that Sandusky founded and that prosecutors say he used to target victims, reported that several years of the organization’s records were missing and had perhaps been stolen. The missing files, investigators worry, may limit their ability to determine if Sandusky used charity resources — expense accounts, travel, gifts — to recruit new victims, or even buy their silence, according to two people with knowledge of the case.

(bold by me)

slogger, the sentence you bolded is also what caught my eye in the article.  


Or lost on Ray Gricar's destroyed harddrive?
Edit-fixed quotes.  MB

Yep.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on November 17, 2011, 01:13:06 PM
Quote
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/sports/ncaafootball/internet-posting-helped-sandusky-investigators.html?pagewanted=3&_r=4

Prosecutors have said that Gary Schultz, the university official charged with overseeing the campus police, said under oath that he recalled being aware of some kind of incident involving Sandusky and a boy showering together, and the subsequent investigation.


What "subsequent investigation"?

(bold by me)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 17, 2011, 01:35:28 PM
The sick acts of one person has affected a lot of futures;
Would you hire a current Penn State student for a job?
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/would_you_hire_a_current_penn.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: cheerio on November 17, 2011, 11:55:17 PM
I am cynical by nature but I think A LOT of people turned a blind eye to what was going on. A grown man sharing a hotel room with various young boys, red flag. Sorry to be gross but some telltale noises coming from the room next door. Only certain boys getting all those expensive gifts, JS isn't Trump. A brief hand on a knee at a restaurant, like in the car. Yes some were oblivious, but many must have seen and known. Just sickening.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/jerry_sanduskys_victim_four_te.html

"Signs — like trips with boys and hotel room stays — might have been noticed sooner if Sandusky wasn’t viewed as being such a selfless, almost saintly community leader.

"Now we know it’s a little weird," Andreozzi said. "I think there are a number of instances, a number of people who were under the impression that Sandusky was an upstanding person in community."

Sandusky won the boy over through his generosity, according to the grand jury. He showered the boys with gifts, including clothing, a snowboard, Nike shoes, sports lessons, golf clubs, jerseys.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 17, 2011, 11:59:08 PM
I am cynical by nature but I think A LOT of people turned a blind eye to what was going on. A grown man sharing a hotel room with various young boys, red flag. Sorry to be gross but some telltale noises coming from the room next door. Only certain boys getting all those expensive gifts, JS isn't Trump. A brief hand on a knee at a restaurant, like in the car. Yes some were oblivious, but many must have seen and known. Just sickening.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/jerry_sanduskys_victim_four_te.html

"Signs — like trips with boys and hotel room stays — might have been noticed sooner if Sandusky wasn’t viewed as being such a selfless, almost saintly community leader.

"Now we know it’s a little weird," Andreozzi said. "I think there are a number of instances, a number of people who were under the impression that Sandusky was an upstanding person in community."

Sandusky won the boy over through his generosity, according to the grand jury. He showered the boys with gifts, including clothing, a snowboard, Nike shoes, sports lessons, golf clubs, jerseys.
JS sounds an awful lot like Michael Jackson, imo.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 18, 2011, 12:02:48 AM
http://www.bradenton.com/2011/11/17/3663214/donors-say-second-mile-charity.html

Donors say Second Mile charity told them there was no truth to sexual-abuse rumors

Quote
The four said they became concerned after reading local newspaper reports in the spring that a grand jury was pursuing allegations that Sandusky had sexually abused children.
When the donors then approached top administrators of the Second Mile, the charity Sandusky founded to help disadvantaged children, they were assured the reports were unfounded, they said, and the charity continued to solicit money from them.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 18, 2011, 12:13:55 AM
JS sounds an awful lot like Michael Jackson, imo.

 ::rhino::

One claims his showering with naked with little boys is "horseplay" while the other claims sleeping with little boys is "a beautiful thing."

Janet

++++

Michael Jackson - In His Own Words

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj2pPW_Jf8g



Jerry Sandusky - In His Own Words

"I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their leg. Without intent of sexual contact," Sandusky said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-rape-victim-denies-sex-assault-lawyer/story?id=14953587&page=2




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 18, 2011, 08:59:39 AM
Another good summary;
Sandusky Cover Up Scandal   
http://www.crownsports.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 18, 2011, 09:46:39 AM
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/former-child-companion-defends-sandusky-111811

Former Child Companion Defends Sandusky

Quote
According to Rexrode, the two met 25 years ago when he was living with his mother in State College, after writing to the Penn State assistant football coach for a homework assignment. To Rexrode's surprise, Sandusky wrote back and the two started spending time together until Rexrode moved to Pittsburgh in the eighth grade.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/former-child-companion-defends-sandusky-111811#ixzz1e4HLZHcl

The sad thing is, this guy doesn't realize that he was being groomed.  There was something in his life that held JS back from assaulting him.  Could be that the mom was hypervigilant or maybe there was a grandparent, uncle, someone that intimidated JS enough that he didn't try anything.  This guy should be grateful he wasn't a victim and just sit down.  Others weren't so lucky.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 18, 2011, 09:52:14 AM
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/18/8877564-penn-state-case-feds-close-to-launching-sandusky-inquiry
Penn State case: Feds close to launching Sandusky inquiry

Quote
And a New York-based charity, the Fresh Air Fund, confirmed this week that it sent five children to live with Sandusky in the 1970s and one in the mid-1990s.
 

It will be the crossing state lines that sinks this monster.  As for the above quote, how did this charity even know about Sandusky unless he was  searching out victims as far back as the 70s?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Kimmy53 on November 18, 2011, 11:33:31 AM
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/former-child-companion-defends-sandusky-111811

Former Child Companion Defends Sandusky

Quote
According to Rexrode, the two met 25 years ago when he was living with his mother in State College, after writing to the Penn State assistant football coach for a homework assignment. To Rexrode's surprise, Sandusky wrote back and the two started spending time together until Rexrode moved to Pittsburgh in the eighth grade.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/former-child-companion-defends-sandusky-111811#ixzz1e4HLZHcl

The sad thing is, this guy doesn't realize that he was being groomed.  There was something in his life that held JS back from assaulting him.  Could be that the mom was hypervigilant or maybe there was a grandparent, uncle, someone that intimidated JS enough that he didn't try anything.  This guy should be grateful he wasn't a victim and just sit down.  Others weren't so lucky.

 ::rhino::

What a creep.  I hope he gets the punishment he deserves and more.  He is a predator who has ruined lives.  For every  victim that comes forward, I would bet there is one who will not.  We may never know how many victims there have been over the years.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 03:42:07 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ncaa-launching-investigation-penn-state-14984796
NCAA Taking up Penn State Scandal
November 18, 2011

The NCAA has told Penn State it will examine how school officials handled a child sex abuse scandal that has shocked the campus and cost the school's former president and coach Joe Paterno their jobs.

NCAA president Mark Emmert sent a letter to Penn State president Rod Erickson saying that the governing body for college sports will look at "Penn State's exercise of institutional control over its intercollegiate athletics programs" in the case of Jerry Sandusky, the former defensive coordinator accused of 40 counts of child sex abuse.

Penn State released the letter Friday.
 ::snipping2::
In addition to the ongoing criminal investigation of Sandusky, Penn State has started its own, internal review and the U.S. Department of Education is examining whether Penn State failed to report incidents of sexual abuse on campus, as required by federal law.

Emmert, in his letter, said the allegations made in a grand jury report on Sandusky impact "not only the integrity of the university, but that of intercollegiate athletics as a whole and the NCAA member institutions that conduct college sports."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 04:37:23 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57327897/joe-paterno-has-lung-cancer-son-says/
Joe Paterno has lung cancer, son says
November 18, 2011

(AP)

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - Former Penn State coach Joe Paterno has a treatable form of lung cancer, according to his son.

Scott Paterno said in a statement provided to The Associated Press by a family representative on Friday that the 84-year-old Joe Paterno is undergoing treatment and that "his doctors are optimistic he will make a full recovery."

"As everyone can appreciate, this is a deeply personal matter for my parents, and we simply ask that his privacy be respected as he proceeds with treatment," Scott Paterno said in a brief statement.
Scott Paterno said the diagnosis was made during a follow-up visit last weekend for a bronchial illness.

Earlier Friday, the Standard-Speaker newspaper of Hazleton, Pa., reported that Paterno had been seen Wednesday visiting the Mount Nittany Medical Center and was treated for an undisclosed ailment and released.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 18, 2011, 05:11:58 PM
Wolf Blitzer (CNN) just announced that the Second Mile Foundation is folding.

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 05:31:25 PM
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20111118other_second_mile_chapter_will_continue_to_exist/srvc=home&position=recent
Other Second Mile chapter will continue to exist
November 18, 2011

The head of the York chapter of the charitable foundation The Second Mile confirmed the local chapter will continue to exist. It’s unclear, however, what the future holds for The Second Mile after it has been caught in the middle of the child-sex-abuse scandal involving former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky -- The Second Mile’s founder.

Julie Dietz-Wheeler confirmed Wednesday night that the York chapter has not folded, but she would not answer any other questions involving the foundation, in accordance with the wishes of the foundation. Dietz-Wheeler directed all inquiries to The Second Mile’s state office and foundation head David Woodle.

Woodle, vice chairman of the board of directors, assumed day-to-day operations of The Second Mile after Jack Raykovitz resigned as the CEO on Monday.

Woodle could not be reached for comment Thursday. A message seeking comment was left with the foundation’s receptionist and also emailed to the office.

Two of the York chapter’s higher-profile events included the Sandy Kranich Penn State Golf Benefit and the Clays for Kids Fall Classic. Shipley Energy presented the 18th annual golf event in June at Heritage Hills. Individual golfers paid $150 to participate in the charitable event. Shipley also sponsored the third Annual Clays for Kids Fall Classic that was held in October in Wellsville.

According to the grand jury presentment, all of the alleged abuse victims met Sandusky through The Second Mile -- a charity he founded in 1977.

"Although the allegations against Jerry Sandusky and the alleged incidents occurred outside Second Mile programs and events, this does not change the fact that the alleged sexual abuse involved Second Mile program children, nor does it lessen the terrible impact of sexual abuse on its victims," The Second Mile stated in a release earlier this week.

Most of the comments and information coming from The Second Mile has been released in the form of statements. Several York chapter members did not return calls left for them Thursday night.

The Second Mile has announced it will undergo an internal investigation, with the hope of finalizing the investigation by the end of the year.

Investigators will need to explain why Raykovitz and The Second Mile didn’t have concerns about Sandusky dating back to 1998 or 2002. The charity distanced itself from Sandusky only after he informed the board of allegations involving a Clinton County boy in November 2008.
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 05:33:55 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/18/2572186/penn-state-scandal-second-mile-jerry-sandusky
Penn State Scandal: Second Mile Making Plans To Disband
November 18, 2011

Second Mile, the charity for at-risk youth founded by former Penn State assistant Jerry Sandusky, is beginning the process of disbanding, according to its chief executive. Two weeks ago, Sandusky was indicted on dozens of counts of child sex abuse following a lengthy grand jury investigation. In the presentment, the grand jury accused Sandusky of using Second Mile to find and groom victims, ultimately leading to the sexual assault allegations.

From the New York Times:

    David Woodle, the chief executive of the charity, known as Second Mile, said in an interview Friday that the foundation was seeking to transfer its programs to other nonprofit organizations. The Second Mile’s leaders are looking at a limited number of organizations that could, and would, carry forward the foundation’s work with disadvantaged youth. He would not say which organizations would be candidates.

    “We’re working hard to figure out how the programs can survive this event,” Woodle said. “We aren’t protective of this organization that it survives at all costs.”
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 06:09:43 PM
http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/page/munson-111118/developments-penn-state-suggest-widespread-cover-up
Penn State story's expanding horizons
Originally Published November 19, 2011
By Lester Munson
ESPN.com



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 10:28:23 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/college/story/2011-11-19/cnbc-penn-state/51300142/1?csp=hf
What's the value of a Penn State diploma now?
By Mark Koba, CNBC.com

The human tragedy that's become the Penn State University child molestation scandal is forcing some high school students to think twice about attending the college — and to question whether a PSU diploma still has value.
"Several students I work with are expressing reluctance in attending PSU because of the scandal," says Naomi Steinberg, an independent college advisor in Boca Raton, Florida.

"There's concern from parents and high school students about how the whole thing has been handled. This has been a deal-breaker for some kids thinking of attending," Steinberg says.
As developments in the scandal continue to filter out, prospective PSU students and their families are pondering the practical side of a PSU degree.

"Our clients are shying away from applying to PSU," says Craig Meister, president of Tactical College Consulting, a college admissions consultancy firm. "Parents and students I work with are concerned about getting a job with a PSU diploma — with images of Joe Paterno and the rioting in mind. In a tough job market, Penn State is no longer a safe bet."

According to the PSU website, some 76,000 students have applied to the school for admission in the fall of 2012. That was in August, before the scandal broke. Somewhere between 8,000 and 10,000 will be accepted throughout the campuses.

Information regarding a fall-off in PSU admissions is mostly anecdotal at this point. A call into the PSU admissions office to find out how many, if any, high school students have rescinded their applications was not returned.

Only one student has publicly said he's hesitating on his commitment to PSU, but he's a high school football recruit named Brent Wilkerson who's concerned about the future of the football program after the firing of coach Joe Paterno.

Those watching the situation say PSU's academic reputation is not on trial.

"What's critical to differentiate is that this scandal is much more about Penn State sports and the Penn State administration," says Michal Ann Strahilevitz, a professor of Business and Marketing at Golden Gate University.

"What happened is a tragedy, but in terms of faculty reputation and the value associated with a PSU degree, I don't think there will be long-lasting cuts in support," explains Strahilevitz.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 02:44:42 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/19/penn-state-paid-by-sanduskys-charity-for-use-facilities-as-recently-as-2009/?intcmp=trending
EXCLUSIVE: Penn State Paid by Sandusky's Charity for Use of Facilities as Recently as 2009
By Jana Winter
November 19, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. –  Penn State University received almost $250,000 for a series of sleepover camps in 2008 and 2009 run by the charity group founded by Jerry Sandusky - years after ex-athletic director Tim Curley imposed an “unenforceable” ban on the accused child molester from entering the school’s sports facilities and main campus.

Financial records obtained by FoxNews.com show $124,587 was given to Penn State by The Second Mile in 2009. The year before, in 2008, the university received $119,592 from The Second Mile. The money is listed under “food and lodging” in charity records, and officials said the payments were made on a series of week-long sleepover camps.

Penn State apparently took money for the camps months after the mother of a high school freshman contacted authorities in the spring of 2008 saying her son had been abused by Sandusky. That allegation kick-started the grand jury investigation that earlier this month indicted Sandusky on 40 counts of child sex abuse charges.

It’s not clear if Sandusky, who was still director of The Second Mile in 2008 before the group cut ties with him, participated in the camps. University officials said their records do not show the names of those who participated, and The Second Mile officials declined requests to answer questions about Sandusky’s involvement.

But Sandusky was still an “active” director of The Second Mile and earned $57,000 in The Second Mile’s 2008 fiscal year, which ended August 31, 2008. Three months later, in November, Sandusky told The Second Mile he was under investigation, and the charity banned him from activities with children, according to a recent statement by the former The Second Mile CEO Jack Raykovitz, who resigned on Sunday.

Sandusky also held sleepover football camps for boys, run through his own corporation, Sandusky Associates Inc., at satellite Penn State campuses all over the state, even after he was turned out from The Second Mile.
(List of  2008 camp dates in article)
 ::snipping2::
When asked about the camps and the money, the receptionist referred to reports on the website. When told the report for that year mentions only one sleepover camp, the Challenge Program, she said the charity also hosted other camps, but would not offer details. The Second Mile and Penn State officials have both denied they were associated with the Sandusky Association football sleepover camps for boys grades 4 to 9 — though they were held on Penn State campuses in 2008, according to a flyer still posted on the website of the university’s Erie campus. Advertisements for the camp have listed the registration contact information as the Penn State (psu.edu) address of Sandusky’s son, Jon.
Sandusky ran the same football sleepover camps on Penn State campuses the following year, in 2009, nearly a year after the charity banned him from activities with children and nearly a decade after the first reports of his alleged sex abuse surfaced.

The 2008 payment was not the only one found in The Second Mile’s tax returns, in which Penn State is listed among the highest paid consultants. In 2009, after the charity says it banned Sandusky from activities with children, The Second Mile paid Penn State more than $100,000 to hold another series of camps on the university's campus. The Second Mile 2008 fiscal year payment is reflected in Penn State’s 2008/09 fiscal year, the school official noted.

The charity’s director/treasurer, Ralph Licastro, an accountant and professor at Penn State’s business school, was not home or unavailable when FoxNews.com stopped by on Friday to ask about the payments. His wife asked for a reporter’s business card, and said he would call back if he chose to do so.

No one answered the door at the home of Raykovitz, who stepped down on Sunday in the wake of the ongoing scandal. But Raykovitz’s wife, Katherine Genovese, is still with the group, and remains its second-highest earner on the charity board, according to records.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 04:14:00 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/19/us/sandusky-memoir-profile/?hpt=us_c2
Jerry Sandusky's 'make-believe world'
November 19, 2011
By Ann O'Neill and Wayne Drash, CNN


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 08:11:16 PM
This article makes some very good points, imo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/opinion/sunday/confusing-sex-and-rape.html
Confusing Sex and Rape
November 19, 2011
By ARTHUR S. BRISBANE



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 11:10:36 PM
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view.bg?&articleid=1382316&format=&page=2&listingType=colfb#articleFull
Jerry Sandusky sex-abuse scandal emerged from a secretive Penn State
November 19, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — From Penn State University’s athletic department to the halls of its Old Main administrative building, the university long has sought to control the public’s access to information about its inner workings.

It received $270 million from state taxpayers this year, but is able to choose whether to make details of its budget public.

It’s exempt from most requirements of the state Open Records Law. It needs only to disclose the salaries of its 25 highest-paid employees, the salaries of officers and directors, and the information filed in its federal non-profit form.

Even information about money raised by the student-run philanthropy affectionately known as "Thon" — an annual dance marathon that this year raised $9.6 million for children with cancer — is released at the whim of the university.

 ::snipping2::
Penn State received about $270 million in state funding this year, including $240 million for general education support. That adds up to about 7 percent of its total budget and 14 percent of its general education revenue.

Yet it makes very little information about its inner functions available to the state’s taxpayers.

Melissa Melewsky, media law counsel with the Pennsylvania Newspapers Association, said Penn State lobbied for exclusions under the Right to Know Law when the law was updated in 2008. Penn State and the other state-related universities have a special exemption that prevents the public from getting access to the schools’ e-mails, phone records and other records that many other universities must provide.

As it is now, Penn State has to make public only the compensation of the 25 highest-paid employees, salaries of officers and directors, and annual IRS federal tax forms known as 990s.

"Our position is the more access, the better, not just with regards to Penn State, but with all state agencies in general," Melewsky said. "Without access, there’s not accountability. The public really has a problem holding public officials accountable, and that’s the problem."

Spanier went before the state House Government Committee in August 2007 and said the school would lose millions of dollars if it was forced to abide by the proposed state open records law. Donors would stop giving money to the school if they knew their identities were going to be made public, he pleaded with state legislators.

Terry Mutchler, executive director of the Pennsylvania Office of Open Records, said she always found the president’s vigorous fight to keep the records private odd. Now with the growing abuse scandal engulfing her alma mater, she said she can’t help wondering whether Spanier’s testimony was solely based on a desire to protect the school’s integrity and donors.

"Or was it driven by the explosive investigation that’s been lurking right behind the scenes here?" she asked.

The degree of openness has been an ongoing issue as the university struggles to deal with the aftermath of the sex abuse scandal that some are calling the biggest scandal in the history of higher education.

When Penn State trustees met to decide the fate of Paterno and Spanier on Nov. 9, they didn’t tell the media where and when that session would take place. Normally, Penn State advertises the time and location of its meetings, and opens them to the public, but it can hold emergency meetings without notice.

After one closed trustees meeting, Spanier avoided reporters and students gathered outside by leaving through a side exit and ducking into a waiting van driven by his press aide.
 ::snipping2::
One of the university’s first moves after the charges against Sandusky were filed was to bring in Ketchum, a global, New York-based public relations firm, to assist with its response to the scandal. Mahon said that getting assistance from an outside firm is a normal step for an institution of Penn State’s size.

The university also turned down a Centre Daily Times request for any police records from a 1998 incident involving Sandusky showering with a boy on campus, saying the only document it is required to make public is a note on the university police report for June 2, 1998, stating: "At 1840 hours, PSO Schreffler requested an incident number for an ongoing investigation."

Since he took office, newly appointed President Erickson has pledged to give regular updates on the university’s own investigation into the matter and has been meeting with faculty, students and staff.

It remains to be seen to what degree the university will embrace an effort to be more open.

Mutchler, of the state Open Records office, acknowledges that most every organization wants to protect its brand. But she says history has shown Penn State goes to much greater lengths to protect its image.

Even 20 years ago when she was a reporter for the school newspaper, The Daily Collegian, she said, "We were fighting tooth and nail" to get basic information.

"There is a very real, tight grip. I don’t think there is a culture of openness. I think it’s 180 degrees the other way."



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 11:13:29 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500188_162-57328177/sandusky-all-the-hallmarks-of-a-molester/
Sandusky: "All the hallmarks" of a molester?
November 19, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 11:14:37 PM
http://tracking.si.com/2011/11/19/analysis-indicates-jerry-sandusky-was-lying-to-bob-costas/
Analysis Indicates Jerry Sandusky Was Lying To Bob Costas



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 20, 2011, 12:29:56 AM
http://tracking.si.com/2011/11/19/analysis-indicates-jerry-sandusky-was-lying-to-bob-costas/
Analysis Indicates Jerry Sandusky Was Lying To Bob Costas


Eyes For Lies has done one too.
http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2011/11/jerry-sanduskys-conversation-with-bob.html (http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2011/11/jerry-sanduskys-conversation-with-bob.html)
Jerry Sandusky's Conversation with Bob Costa 

NOTE this part...
Quote
BC:  Did Joe Paterno at any time ever speak to you directly about your behavior?

Sandusky:  No.

BC:  Never?

Sandusky:  No.

BC:  He never asked you what you might have done. 

Sandusky:  No.

BC:  He never asked you if you needed help…if you needed counseling.

Sandusky:  No.

BC:  Never expressed any disapproval of any kind?

Sandusky:  No.

1.       When Sandusky says this, the word “no” is said differently than previous times, and I hear a bit of surprise in his voice suggesting Paterno never did express any disapproval. I found this notable and likely true.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 03:25:44 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-57322400-10391697/victims-sister-penn-state-students-joke-about-being-sanduskied/
Victim's sister: Penn State students joke about being "Sanduskied"
November 10, 2011

This article is 10 days old, but still...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 04:34:14 PM
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/18/8877564-penn-state-case-feds-consider-launching-criminal-inquiry#comments
Penn State case: Feds consider launching criminal inquiry
By Michael Isikoff
November 18, 2011

The Penn State sex abuse scandal may soon become a federal case.

A senior law enforcement source tells NBC News that federal prosecutors and FBI agents in Pennsylvania are now “looking hard” at whether to open up their own investigation because of allegations that former football assistant coach Jerry Sandusky crossed state lines to commit child abuse.

One of the Pennsylvania state charges against Sandusky alleges that he flew one boy – identified as Victim Number Four – to the Outback Bowl in Tampa in 1998 and then again to the Alamo Bowl in San Antonio in 1999. Starting when the boy was about 13 years old, Sandusky “repeatedly” abused him, including at the bowl games, a grand jury report charges. When the boy resisted Sandusky’s advances, the grand jury indictment charges, the football coach threatened “to send him home from the Alamo Bowl.”

The feds are also trying to determine whether Sandusky used the Internet to communicate or even recruit his victims—also grounds for the FBI to become involved. And a New York-based charity, the Fresh Air Fund, confirmed this week that it sent five children to live with Sandusky in the 1970s and one in the mid-1990s.
More...
Video at link.
(Interesting comments)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 07:57:31 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/opinion/sunday/secret-dread-at-penn-state.html
Secret Dread at Penn State
By Daniel Mendelsohn
November 19, 2011

WHAT if it had been a 10-year-old girl in the Penn State locker room that Friday night in 2002?

The likely answer to that question reveals an ugly truth, one that goes stubbornly undiscussed. Whichever version of Mike McQueary’s story you choose to believe — his grand jury testimony, in which a “distraught” Mr. McQueary, then a graduate assistant to the football team, “left immediately” after witnessing the former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky sodomize a young boy, or the e-mail recently leaked to the press, in which he wrote, “I did stop it, not physically ... but made sure it was stopped when I left that locker room” — the mind recoils at the grotesque failure to intervene more forcefully. How could a grown man have left the scene without taking the child with him? Mr. McQueary wants us to imagine that his brain was racing during those “30 to 45 seconds,” that he “had to make tough impacting quick decisions.” But it seems clear he wasn’t thinking at all — and it’s hard not to wonder why.

I think it was the gender of the victim.

Does anyone believe that if a burly graduate student had walked in on a 58-year-old man raping a naked little girl in the shower, he would have left without calling the police and without trying to rescue the girl? But the victim in this case was a boy, and so Mr. McQueary left and called his dad (who didn’t seem to think that it was a matter for the police either).
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 08:07:38 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1120/Scandal-hurts-Penn-State-as-a-school-and-a-brand
Scandal hurts Penn State as a school and a brand

Part of the immediate fallout from the investigation of child sex abuse at Penn State is economic. Sales of hats, shirts, and other items emblazoned with the Penn State name have plummeted.
November 20, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 09:18:50 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/19/joe-paterno-video-jerry-sandusky-linebacker/
Joe Paterno Linebacker Video KILLED Over Sandusky Appearance
November 19, 2011

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/17/1117-joe-paterno-dvd-3ex.jpg)
A Joe Paterno approved instructional football video has gotten the death sentence from distributors over a segment involving Jerry Sandusky interacting with young boys ... one of whom may have been among the alleged victims.

The video -- titled, "Joe Paterno: Linebackers" -- was released in the late '90s and features Sandusky running a hands on tackling drill with a group of young boys. A screen shot from the video appears above.

According to the infamous grand jury report in the Sandusky case, the person identified as Victim #4 participated in "a video made about linebackers that featured Sandusky."

The name of the video is not mentioned in the testimony, but we can't seem to find any other instructional video about linebackers that features Sandusky.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 09:24:30 PM
I had seen the SNL skit about Penn State, and  I thought it only a matter of time before South Park featured Penn State.  I was right. 

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/17/south-park-penn-state/
South Park DESTROYS Penn State
November 17, 2011
(Video snip and link to see entire episode in article.)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/11/snl-tackles-evil-penn-state-story/1
'SNL' tackles 'evil' Penn State story
November 14, 2011


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 20, 2011, 09:25:18 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/19/joe-paterno-video-jerry-sandusky-linebacker/
Joe Paterno Linebacker Video KILLED Over Sandusky Appearance
November 19, 2011

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/17/1117-joe-paterno-dvd-3ex.jpg)
A Joe Paterno approved instructional football video has gotten the death sentence from distributors over a segment involving Jerry Sandusky interacting with young boys ... one of whom may have been among the alleged victims.

The video -- titled, "Joe Paterno: Linebackers" -- was released in the late '90s and features Sandusky running a hands on tackling drill with a group of young boys. A screen shot from the video appears above.

According to the infamous grand jury report in the Sandusky case, the person identified as Victim #4 participated in "a video made about linebackers that featured Sandusky."

The name of the video is not mentioned in the testimony, but we can't seem to find any other instructional video about linebackers that features Sandusky.
 ::snipping2::
muffy, I saw this several days ago and just couldn't bring myself to post the link for the video.  The link I had used the very same video shot.  Can you imagine how that poor boy felt having Sandusky's hands on him on tape forever.  I just can't get over the gall of Sandusky.  Or JoePa for that matter.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 09:30:59 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/19/joe-paterno-video-jerry-sandusky-linebacker/
Joe Paterno Linebacker Video KILLED Over Sandusky Appearance
November 19, 2011

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/17/1117-joe-paterno-dvd-3ex.jpg)
A Joe Paterno approved instructional football video has gotten the death sentence from distributors over a segment involving Jerry Sandusky interacting with young boys ... one of whom may have been among the alleged victims.

The video -- titled, "Joe Paterno: Linebackers" -- was released in the late '90s and features Sandusky running a hands on tackling drill with a group of young boys. A screen shot from the video appears above.

According to the infamous grand jury report in the Sandusky case, the person identified as Victim #4 participated in "a video made about linebackers that featured Sandusky."

The name of the video is not mentioned in the testimony, but we can't seem to find any other instructional video about linebackers that features Sandusky.
 ::snipping2::
muffy, I saw this several days ago and just couldn't bring myself to post the link for the video.  The link I had used the very same video shot.  Can you imagine how that poor boy felt having Sandusky's hands on him on tape forever.  I just can't get over the gall of Sandusky.  Or JoePa for that matter.

I debated posting it too, KittyMom.  And I started to post the SNL skit previously, and removed it.  However, SNL and even South Park sometimes address current events and issues and they both belittled and punched and poked at the Penn State child sex abuse, so I decided to post it.  I don't see it as entertainment but more as making statements. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 20, 2011, 09:38:11 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/19/joe-paterno-video-jerry-sandusky-linebacker/
Joe Paterno Linebacker Video KILLED Over Sandusky Appearance
November 19, 2011

[img]http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/11/17/1117-joe-paterno-dvd-3ex.jpg
A Joe Paterno approved instructional football video has gotten the death sentence from distributors over a segment involving Jerry Sandusky interacting with young boys ... one of whom may have been among the alleged victims.

The video -- titled, "Joe Paterno: Linebackers" -- was released in the late '90s and features Sandusky running a hands on tackling drill with a group of young boys. A screen shot from the video appears above.

According to the infamous grand jury report in the Sandusky case, the person identified as Victim #4 participated in "a video made about linebackers that featured Sandusky."

The name of the video is not mentioned in the testimony, but we can't seem to find any other instructional video about linebackers that features Sandusky.
 ::snipping2::
muffy, I saw this several days ago and just couldn't bring myself to post the link for the video.  The link I had used the very same video shot.  Can you imagine how that poor boy felt having Sandusky's hands on him on tape forever.  I just can't get over the gall of Sandusky.  Or JoePa for that matter.

I debated posting it too, KittyMom.  And I started to post the SNL skit previously, and removed it.  However, SNL and even South Park sometimes address current events and issues and they both belittled and punched and poked at the Penn State child sex abuse, so I decided to post it.  I don't see it as entertainment but more as making statements. 
GMTA - I almost posted the SNL skit too!  I didn't because I thought others might be offended by it. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 09:44:03 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/944668-south-park-penn-state-masters-of-satire-tackle-nittany-lions-scandal
Penn State Scandal: "South Park" Masters of Satire Tackle Nittany Lions' Scandal
By Adam Wells
November 17, 2011
 ::snipping2::
South Park" isn't trying to tell you what to think or feel or what's funny and not funny. It's Matt Stone and Trey Parker's personal critique of the world around them and their way of just seeing all the—for lack of a better word—crap that is going on and wondering what the hell has happened.

This was not meant to be insensitive or cruel to the alleged victims in this scandal. It is a look at how this kind of thing could go on for so long and no one says or does a thing to stop it. At least, that is my take on this episode


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 10:04:35 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/21/us-crime-coach-trustees-idUSTRE7AK06520111121
Penn State trustees panel sets news conference Monday
November 20, 2011

(Reuters) - A special committee formed by Penn State trustees to investigate the university's actions after reports of child sex abuse by a former football coach said it will hold a news conference Monday in connection with its investigation.

The special committee was announced days after the November 5 announcement that former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was accused by a grand jury of sexually abusing eight young boys over 15 years. Sandusky faces 40 charges.
 ::snipping2::
Trustees named Ken Frazier, president and CEO of Merck, to chair the special committee that was appointed to investigate "the circumstances that gave rise to the grand jury report."

The special committee is expected to be made up of a majority of university trustees, plus faculty, students and alumni.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 20, 2011, 11:00:46 PM
http://citizensvoice.com/news/abuse-allegations-shadow-sandusky-s-second-mile-son-1.1233652#axzz1eJBWzuAe
Abuse allegations shadow Sandusky's Second Mile son


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 21, 2011, 05:52:33 AM
Jerry Sandusky's 'make-believe world'

By Ann O'Neill and Wayne Drash, CNN
updated 5:48 PM EST, Sun November 20, 2011



(CNN) -- The college football world knew him as the "Dean of Linebacker U," the defensive coach who helped Penn State win two national championships. But Jerry Sandusky saw himself as a "Great Pretender."

It was a name he adopted while performing in a band at his annual summer football camp for children.

"Pretending has always been a part of me," Sandusky, now 67, wrote in his autobiography, "Touched: The Jerry Sandusky Story," published in 2000. "I've loved trying to do the right things to hopefully make a difference in kids' lives and maybe make things better off for them. I'll never regret being called a 'great' pretender."

Two weeks after prosecutors charged him with sexually molesting eight boys he befriended through his charity, some of Sandusky's friends, fans and former players are wondering: Did the Great Pretender fool us all?

They are combing their memories for missed signs, clues that could have tipped them that the coach they once assumed was Joe Paterno's heir apparent may not have been who they thought he was.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/19/us/sandusky-memoir-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_c1


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 21, 2011, 08:33:17 AM
It's about time the proper term "child rape" is starting to be used in  the news articles regarding Jerry Sandusky.  However, the media are still side stepping the headlines.  I'd still like to know why "sexual abuse" and "anal intercourse" are used when it's actually child rape? For an adult male to have "anal intercourse" with a young boy is child rape.  No use guilding lilly.  It's an ugly term for an ugly act.  JMHO

Does anyone believe this?  "Kenneth Frazier, a trustee who is chairing the panel, has said the inquiry will be "rigorous, objective and impartial."

BBM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/21/justice/pennsylvania-penn-state-scandal/?hpt=hp_c1
Panel investigating Penn State allegations to speak Monday
November 21, 2011

(CNN) -- A Penn State trustees' panel tasked with investigating the university's actions after child rape allegations will speak to the media Monday.

The university is at the center of multiple investigations following accusations that former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky sexually abused a boy at a football complex, years before law enforcement was notified.

Joe Paterno, the winningest football coach in Division I history, was fired this month amid outrage over the handling of abuse claims involving Sandusky. Penn State President Graham Spanier also lost his job.

Six days after Sandusky's arrest, the college announced it was creating a special panel to investigate the allegations.
Kenneth Frazier, a trustee who is chairing the panel, has said the inquiry will be "rigorous, objective and impartial."

Pennsylvania's attorney general charged Sandusky, 67, with 40 counts in what authorities say was the sexual abuse of eight young boys over several years. In addition, two Penn State officials are charged with failing to inform police of the allegations.

National anger grew after recent revelations of a graduate assistant's 2002 report that he had seen former Sandusky performing anal sex on a young boy in a football complex shower.

Paterno said that he'd never been told the graphic details revealed in a grand jury report about sex abuse allegations, but that he nevertheless passed the allegations on to his boss. Paterno has said he had done "what I was supposed to do." But in a later statement, he said "with the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."

The NCAA and the U.S. Department of Education are also investigating.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 21, 2011, 08:46:39 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-scandal-bullying-alleged-sandusky-victim-prompts/story?id=14995900
Penn State Scandal: Bullying of Alleged Victim Prompts Paterno to Speak Out
November 21, 2011

The boy who first came forward to accuse former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky of sexual assault has been harassed so intensely that he had to leave high school, prompting ousted coach Joe Paterno to speak out against bullying.

The mother of the alleged victim, who set off the investigation that has rocked the world of college sports and led to 40 counts of child sexual assault against Sandusky, told ABC News that students at her son's high school blame him for the firing of Paterno, the beloved head coach who oversaw the university's Nittany Lions football team for 46 years.

Speaking exclusively with "Good Morning America," the attorney representing Paterno said that the former coach denounces bullying, and called for respect in the name of the school.

"Coach Paterno strongly condemns harassment or bullying of any kind, and he asks anyone who truly cares about Penn State to conduct themselves honorably and with respect for others," attorney J. Sedgwick Sollers told ABC News.

Paterno had previously called for a prayer for the victims of abuse in the wake of the scandal breaking. He hasn't spoken publically since his ouster from the school and is reportedly battling lung cancer.
Psychologist Mike Gillum has been counseling the unnamed young man, who is referred to as Victim 1 in the Sandusky case grand jury report, for the past three years while the case was being investigated. He said that scorn and bullying can be a major concern for victims of abuse.
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Victim 1, who according to his testimony was 11 or 12 years old when he was first sexually abused by the 67-year-old former defensive coach, has been accused of changing his story as the case evolved. Sandusky's defense attorney has already publically said he's going to go after the credibility of the boy's story based on the fact that his statements escalated.

But Gillum says that victims of abuse often take time to reveal the full details of what happened.

"The level of humiliation, the level of insight into how deviant what's occurred is, means that they're not going to reveal that until they really feel comfortable," he said. "And that may take months, that might take a year or two."

According to the grand jury report, Victim 1 suffered sexual abuse while he would stay overnight at Sandusky's home, in a bedroom in the coach's finished basement, and at least once in his school gymnasium, where Sandusky would volunteer. The boy originally met Sandusky through The Second Mile program for at-risk youth, which was founded by the coach.

Regardless of the bullying he has experienced at school and the intimidation of facing Sandusky and his defense attorney, the boy is ready to have his day in court.

"He knows what happened … he knows how he was treated," Gillum said. "And he's willing to say that in a court of law without hesitation.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 21, 2011, 09:45:42 AM
It's about time the proper term "child rape" is starting to be used in  the news articles regarding Jerry Sandusky.  However, the media are still side stepping the headlines.  I'd still like to know why "sexual abuse" and "anal intercourse" are used when it's actually child rape? For an adult male to have "anal intercourse" with a young boy is child rape.  No use guilding lilly.  It's an ugly term for an ugly act.  JMHO

Does anyone believe this?  "Kenneth Frazier, a trustee who is chairing the panel, has said the inquiry will be "rigorous, objective and impartial."

BBM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/21/justice/pennsylvania-penn-state-scandal/?hpt=hp_c1
Panel investigating Penn State allegations to speak Monday
November 21, 2011

(CNN) -- A Penn State trustees' panel tasked with investigating the university's actions after child rape allegations will speak to the media Monday.

The university is at the center of multiple investigations following accusations that former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky sexually abused a boy at a football complex, years before law enforcement was notified.

Joe Paterno, the winningest football coach in Division I history, was fired this month amid outrage over the handling of abuse claims involving Sandusky. Penn State President Graham Spanier also lost his job.

Six days after Sandusky's arrest, the college announced it was creating a special panel to investigate the allegations.
Kenneth Frazier, a trustee who is chairing the panel, has said the inquiry will be "rigorous, objective and impartial."

Pennsylvania's attorney general charged Sandusky, 67, with 40 counts in what authorities say was the sexual abuse of eight young boys over several years. In addition, two Penn State officials are charged with failing to inform police of the allegations.

National anger grew after recent revelations of a graduate assistant's 2002 report that he had seen former Sandusky performing anal sex on a young boy in a football complex shower.

Paterno said that he'd never been told the graphic details revealed in a grand jury report about sex abuse allegations, but that he nevertheless passed the allegations on to his boss. Paterno has said he had done "what I was supposed to do." But in a later statement, he said "with the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more."

The NCAA and the U.S. Department of Education are also investigating.
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This sanitized way of describing the crime is just another injustice against the victims.  When the words used to describe a crime are scrubbed of the horror, hurt, and abuse, then somehow people accept that what happened wasn't as bad as the victim claims.  IMO, its something that defense attys love.  They can make use of this 'neutral' speak.  If 'child rape' were used by media, the attys would be screaming in a courtroom. 

Until the public is made to see crime for the ugly it really is, we'll continue to see injustice in the courtrooms.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 21, 2011, 09:48:10 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-scandal-bullying-alleged-sandusky-victim-prompts/story?id=14995900
Penn State Scandal: Bullying of Alleged Victim Prompts Paterno to Speak Out
November 21, 2011

The boy who first came forward to accuse former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky of sexual assault has been harassed so intensely that he had to leave high school, prompting ousted coach Joe Paterno to speak out against bullying.

Respectfully snipped  ::snipping2::

According to the grand jury report, Victim 1 suffered sexual abuse while he would stay overnight at Sandusky's home, in a bedroom in the coach's finished basement, and at least once in his school gymnasium, where Sandusky would volunteer. The boy originally met Sandusky through The Second Mile program for at-risk youth, which was founded by the coach.

Regardless of the bullying he has experienced at school and the intimidation of facing Sandusky and his defense attorney, the boy is ready to have his day in court.

"He knows what happened … he knows how he was treated," Gillum said. "And he's willing to say that in a court of law without hesitation.

Penn State should be made to pay for this young man to be placed in a private school and intense counseling.  Sadly, they'll pay something, but it will be years down the road.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 21, 2011, 07:10:41 PM
http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/corbett-explains-his-actions-as-ag-on-sandusky-case-1.1235544
Corbett explains his actions as AG on Sandusky case
November 21, 2011

HARRISBURG - Gov. Tom Corbett said Monday he would have risked revealing the path of a state grand jury investigation had he pressed officials to take away campus privileges extended to former Pennsylvania State University assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky before child sex-abuse charges against him were filed.

"It would reveal where we were going in the grand jury investigation," Mr. Corbett added.

Speaking before the Pennsylvania Press Club, Mr. Corbett also said filing criminal sex-abuse charges against Mr. Sandusky based on just one incident before the grand jury report was ready could have backfired legally. He said investigators have found that in cases of alleged pedophilia it's important to establish a pattern of abuse because one is usually there.

"The one thing you do not want to do ... is go on one case in the very beginning," Mr. Corbett said. "You want to show the constant course of action. You want to build the best possible case you can."

If a defendant is acquitted on just one charge, it would be more difficult for prosecutors to file more charges based on other cases because of a suspicion they were being vindictive, he said.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 21, 2011, 07:17:07 PM
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/213974/166/Rock-Center-More-on-Penn-State-tonight
'Rock Center': More on Penn State tonight
November 19, 2011
Written by
Michael King

WXIA) -- Tonight on Rock Center with Brian Williams, Bob Costas will update the situation on Penn State's campus a week after his interview with ex-coach Jerry Sandusky, who is accused of sexually abusing boys.

The program will include the first detailed child's-eye view of life inside Sandusky's inner circle. Frankie Probst, now 24, was just 10 when he met Sandusky through the Second Mile charity. Probst says Sandusky became almost a surrogate father to him over six years of very close contact.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 01:31:10 PM
After reading this article, my question is:  If Joe Paterno treated the football players at Penn State any differently than other students in the sense they received less punishment when it came to discipline, how did that affect his dealing with Jerry Sandusky?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/22/paterno-clashed-with-penn-state-official-over-punishment-players/
Paterno Clashed With Penn State Official Over Punishment of Players
November 22, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. –  Legendary Penn State football coach Joe Paterno clashed repeatedly with the university's former chief disciplinarian over how harshly to punish players who got into trouble, internal emails suggest, shedding new light on the school's effort to balance its reputation as a magnet for scholar-athletes with the demands of running a nationally dominant football program.

In an Aug. 12, 2005 email to Pennsylvania State University President Graham Spanier and others, Vicky Triponey, the university's standards and conduct officer, complained that Paterno believed she should have "no interest, [or business] holding our football players accountable to our community standards. The Coach is insistent he knows best how to discipline his players ... and their status as a student when they commit violations of our standards should NOT be our concern ... and I think he was saying we should treat football players different from other students in this regard.
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The confrontations came to a head in 2007, according to one former school official, when six football players were charged by police for forcing their way into a campus apartment that April and beating up several students, one of them severely.

That September, following a tense meeting with Paterno over the case, she resigned her post, saying at the time she left because of "philosophical differences."

In a statement Monday, Triponey said, "There were numerous meetings and discussions about specific and pending student discipline cases that involved football players," which she said included "demands" to adjust the judicial process for football players.

The end result, she said, was that football players were treated "more favorably than other students accused of violating the community standards as defined by the student code of conduct."

Paterno's lawyer, Wick Sollers, said through a spokesman that "the allegations that have been described are out of context, misleading and filled with inaccuracies ... Penn State's record of producing successful student athletes under coach Paterno's guidance is unquestioned."
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 04:43:36 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57329809/lawyer-sandusky-cant-afford-higher-bail/
Sandusky lawyer: High bail would be tough to make
November 22, 2011

(CBS/AP)

HARRISBURG, Pa. - A legal expert says if more charges are filed against former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, he'd have to go through another bail proceeding that might end up being set too high for him to meet it.

Central Pennsylvania criminal defense attorney Bill Costopoulos said Tuesday any additional charges would likely translate into a second arrest for the man accused of sexually abusing eight boys over a 15-year period. Sandusky maintains his innocence.

Sandusky's attorney Joe Amendola is telling ABC's "Good Morning America" he's concerned that if prosecutors bring new charges based on any additional accusers, Sandusky will end up in jail.

Police have confirmed that new accusers have come forward since the release of grand jury report that accused Sandusky of sexual abuse of eight boys and resulted in 40 sexual abuse charges and Amendola told ABC news that he "anticipates more charges to be filed against his client."

Amendola did not provide any specific evidence that new charges were forthcoming and did not return phone messages left Tuesday.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 04:54:04 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-suspects-lawyer-victim-lied-felt-important/story?id=15007125
Penn State 'Victim' Was Retaliating Against a Tough Mentor, Lawyer Claims
November 22, 2011

This article should be read in it's entirety.  So big deal if more charges are brought and Sandusky has to go to jail because he can't make bail.  He should be in jail right now, imo, except for the fact he had a judge that has since been replaced because of conflict of interest.  Here comes smear the victims time.  From one of the articles I've read, Victim 1 wasn't pampered and isn't trying for attention, but the opposite.  It would appear he has a hellish life right now.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-scandal-bullying-alleged-sandusky-victim-prompts/story?id=14995900
Penn State Scandal: Bullying of Alleged Victim Prompts Paterno to Speak Out




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 05:04:26 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/judge-delays-hearing-penn-state-abuse-case-15007344
Penn State Home County Judges out of Sandusky Case
November 22, 2011

Pennsylvania court officials say all the judges in Penn State's home county have removed themselves from potentially presiding over the child sex-abuse case against former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.

The Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts announced Tuesday that out-of-county judges have been named to deal with any related court business in the Centre County case.
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Sandusky, whose preliminary hearing is scheduled for next month, has maintained his innocence.

The court system says the case will eventually be handled by McKean County Senior Judge John Cleland. Until he's able to assume jurisdiction, a different judge from Perry and Juniata counties is filling in.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 05:05:54 PM
http://www.abc27.com/story/16104392/out-of-county-trial-judge-appointed-in-sandusky-case
Out-of-county trial judge appointed in Sandusky case
November 22, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (WHTM) -

A senior judge from McKean County has been appointed to hear upcoming matters related to the case of former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.

McKean County Senior Judge John Cleland was appointed to the case after all Centre County Common Pleas Court judges recused themselves, according to the Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts.

The judges recused themselves to avoid any appearance of conflict of interest due to real or perceived connections to Sandusky, The Second Mile charity he founded, or Penn State University, court officials said.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 05:07:41 PM
I'm still very, very skeptical.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5il7d-zs2sFl-sEam9KzJUH66UMJg?docId=364e608658e4490d922c4cba805eef8a
Penn State recovery gets boost from Freeh's hiring
November 22, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
Frankly, I suspect the tentacles of Penn State run a lot deeper than many may realize.  JMHO

http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/inquirer/20111122_Inquirer_Editorial__Penn_State_probe_s_leadership_encouraging.html
Inquirer Editorial: Penn State probe's leadership encouraging
November 22, 2011

In tapping former FBI Director Louis J. Freeh to head the in-house probe of the Jerry Sandusky child-sex-assault scandal, Pennsylvania State University officials have turned to a veteran investigator with impressive credentials and a national profile.

There's little doubt that Freeh, 61, has the experience and expertise to peel back the layers of the Penn State bureaucracy where - according to a grand jury indictment - a child predator was sheltered from scrutiny for years.

Freeh's charge to "leave no stone unturned" in an internal investigation that will cover a nearly 35-year period is a strong statement that the Penn State trustee committee headed by Merck & Co. boss Ken Frazier intends to expose the scandal's roots.

With other former FBI agents and federal prosecutors joining Freeh in an inquiry that will call upon the public to phone in tips (855-290-3382) on other possible victims, the trustee-directed inquiry should shed more light on the key question of how the apparent Sandusky cover-up was allowed to unfold.

Can the Freeh investigation satisfy critics in the Penn State faculty senate who, on Friday, rightly questioned the trustees' ability to offer an objective and fair look at the scandal?

That will be determined, in part, by whether the inquiry proves to be truly arm's-length. Freeh must not allow his former business relationship with Penn State while a credit-card company executive to cloud his ability to conduct an objective probe.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 06:18:49 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/22/2581205/jerry-sandusky-victims-penn-state-scandal
Newest Alleged Jerry Sandusky Victims Are Still Minors, According To Report
November 22, 2011

Combining the Jerry Sandusky grand jury report and subsequent pieces from the New York Times and FOX's Philadelphia affiliate, the total number of alleged victims has approached 20 or so. Now, the Patriot-News' Sara Ganim reports two cases that have been opened in the past 60 days involve alleged victims who are still children.

Children and Youth Services is the investigating body, since the police only get involved if the victim is 18 or older at the time of the allegation.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 06:20:44 PM
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/21/8939650-sandusky-charity-faced-contempt-motion-over-missing-records
Sandusky charity faced contempt motion over missing records
By Michael Isikoff
November 21, 2011

Pennsylvania state prosecutors filed a secret motion to hold The Second Mile children’s charity in contempt in July after the organization failed to turn over expense records of founder Jerry Sandusky in response to a grand jury subpoena, according to a source familiar with the investigation.

The contempt motion, filed under court seal, was withdrawn in October after some of the  missing Sandusky records were found and produced, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. But the charity’s new lawyers are still looking for the rest of the subpoenaed material and seeking to determine whether the missing records were destroyed or removed in an effort to impede the investigation into Sandusky’s relationships with The Second Mile children, said the source, who has been briefed on some of the details of the investigation.

The move to hold The Second Mile in contempt, which has previously not been reported, is the latest indication that the investigation into the Penn State sex abuse scandal may have widened to include obstruction of justice. Asked Monday if obstruction was a focus of Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly’s investigation, her spokesman, Nils Frederickson, declined comment, citing rules covering the secrecy of matters before the grand jury. “This is a comprehensive, active and ongoing investigation,” he said.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
http://**/ci_19386858
Sandy Kranich Penn State Golf Benefit sponsors rethinking donations for Second Mile in light of Sandusky charges
Shipley Energy hasn't decided whether to sponsor the event benefiting The Second Mile, and Capital Blue Cross said it won't donate until the investigation is over.

By JIM SEIP
Daily Record/Sunday News
November 21, 2011

ork, PA - Jerry Sandusky could be seen motoring around Heritage Hills Golf Resort in a golf cart several years ago, young boys -- ages 9 and 5 -- sitting next to him as he drove. The retired Penn State defensive coordinator teased former players like running back Blair Thomas as golfers helped raise money for The Second Mile -- a charitable foundation Sandusky started in 1977.

The Sandy Kranich Penn State Golf Benefit became the highest profile sporting event for The Second Mile in York County. The event raised money for The Second Mile, a foundation that served more than 100,000 youth annually in Pennsylvania.

Named for Sanford "Sandy" Kranich, a 1940 Penn State graduate and booster who died in 2000, the tournament has been held for 18 consecutive years -- including a June 9 event in 2011.

More than 70 golfers, supporters and volunteers contributed to last year's event -- according to The Second Mile's website. But the child-sex-abuse scandal at Penn State could make it difficult for the event to continue. Two corporate sponsors confirmed Monday they have not yet earmarked any funds for the annual event.

Shipley Energy has been the event's "gold sponsor" -- or title sponsor.

"I know in the upcoming year we will make any future decisions," Shipley Energy communications coordinator Andrea Cote said. "We look at all organizations and decide on an annual basis."

The Second Mile has not contacted Shipley since Sandusky was charged, Cote said.

One of the event's "silver sponsors" -- Capital Blue Cross -- has taken a more firm stand. Dave Skerpon, the vice president of corporate communications and advertising, said Capital Blue Cross will not donate any money to The Second Mile until the investigation is complete.

Capital Blue Cross meets once every two weeks to discuss corporate giving. So it could donate in the future to The Second Mile, but it won't make any donations at this time, Skerpon said.

Capital Blue Cross has not been approached to sponsor this year's golf tournament. The Second Mile last contacted Capital Blue Cross to sponsor the golf tournament in York in October 2010, Skerpon said. And organization has not requested any donations from Capital Blue Cross since Feb. 25, 2011, Skerpon said.

Another "silver sponsor," York County Commissioner Doug Hoke, said he has a lot of questions about The Second Mile right now.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 06:26:19 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/judge_bans_sandusky_attorney_f.html
Judge bans Jerry Sandusky, attorney from using Victim One's name publicly
November 22, 2011

A judge has agreed to bar Jerry Sandusky and his attorney from identifying Victim One, who is among the alleged eight victims named in a child sex abuse investigation.

The order includes any mention of his identity at a preliminary hearing, now scheduled to happen in Centre County court Dec. 13.

The order also requires the court clerk and district court to keep "John Doe'' and his family's identities confidential.
Victims of sexual abuse are not named in most news accounts because of media policies designed to protect the victims. However, the names are made public in court documents and as part of the court record.

In this case, attorneys Andrew Shubin and Justine Andronici convinced a judge that their client deserves extra protection based on the scope of the case and the amount of media attention it has generated.

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Their concern is backed up by the hardships faced by Victim One. The Patriot-News first reported that the 17-year-old Clinton County boy had to change high schools because he was being bullied, called names, and blamed for the firing of football coach Joe Paterno.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 06:29:21 PM
Compare this post with the one I just posted above this one.  I really don't believe Victim 1 is feeling very pampered.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33459699
Sandusky attorney says additional charges likely
November 22, 2011

In an interview with Good Morning America, Joe Amendola, the attorney representing former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, said that Sandusky's accusers were "pampered" after being "labeled as victims" by the legal system, and that one's accusations were the result of tough love from Sandusky as a mentor.

"[P]eople when they're brought into the criminal justice system and they're labeled as victims, they're pampered, they're encouraged, they're treated specially. And particularly when you're dealing with maybe someone who hasn't had a great, the greatest of lives. Then a lot of times they start feeling more important," Amendola said in the interview.

Amendola's most specific comments about the alleged victims were directed at whom the Pennsylvania grand jury describes as Victim 1, saying those accusations were a negative reaction to Sandusky's demands for harder work toward unspecified goals.

"When you push and they don't want you to," Amendola said, "they react. And what Jerry believes happened is that this young guy got tired of Jerry pushing. Jerry believes that what happened was this young guy said, 'you know what, gee, if I say Jerry did something to me, that's the end of my relationship with Jerry.'"

Amendola also said that he is concerned that more charges will be brought against his client, and that his client may go back to jail before his trial as a result. Sandusky is free on $100,000 unsecured bail after facing 40 varying counts of sexual assault on underaged males, and the judge who set that bail was removed from the case after it was revealed that she volunteered for The Second Mile, the charity Sandusky formed in 1977 and allegedly used to meet all of his alleged victims.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 06:33:29 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/two_more_child_abuse_investiga.html
Exclusive: Jerry Sandusky case sees two new child abuse investigations where alleged victims are under 18
November 22, 2011

Two cases of child abuse alleged against Jerry Sandusky have been opened by Children and Youth Services in Pennsylvania.

The cases were reported less than 60 days ago, and so they are still in the initial stages of the investigation.

If they are found to be credible, these would be the first known cases to be reported since Sandusky’s arrest that involve current children. All of the other publicly known cases of alleged victims coming forward have been adults.

In Pennsylvania, when an adult comes forward and alleges abuse -- even if it happened when that person was a child -- it’s solely a police matter. CYS only participates in the investigation if the victim is still under 18.

This new information could give credence to a growing debate over whether Sandusky should have been arrested more quickly.

When a 15-year-old Clinton County boy first alleged crimes against the former football legend and charity founder, police opted to open a grand jury investigation instead of making an immediate arrest.

It was a surprise move to the family of the boy, now known as Victim One.

And, it became a point of wonder for others in law enforcement when The Patriot-News first reported earlier this month that, for the first 15 months of the investigation against Sandusky, there was only one state trooper assigned to the case.

It wasn’t until the fall of 2010 that agents from the state Attorney General’s office got involved, and then when then-Attorney General Tom Corbett was elected Governor and took office in January 2011, he appointed state police commissioner Frank Noonan, who increased the number of investigators to eight.

That was when things really started to take off. It wasn’t until January 2011 that Joe Paterno, fomer athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz testified. It wasn’t until April that officials from The Second Mile testified.

None of the other seven cases of alleged abuse, outlined in the grand jury presentment, were known until more investigators joined the team.
The 1998 police report -- which never led to charges when investigated by missing district attorney Ray Gricar -- wasn’t found until late 2010. That file was found around the same time that assistant coach Mike McQueary was contacted for the first time by police.

McQueary testified before the grand jury that he’d witnessed abuse in 2002 and reported it to Schultz and Curley, but nothing ever came of that investigation.

As a result of his testimony, Curley and Schultz were charged with perjury and failure to report a crime.

But none of the cover-up investigation began until 2011. And it wasn’t until after The Patriot-News broke the story of the investigation in March of this year, that officials from the Clinton County school district where Sandusky had allegedly spent time with Victim One were subpoenaed.

Gricar’s former staff members were not interviewed until after March 2011.

And Jerry Sandusky’s home was not searched until this summer — two and half years after the investigation began.

In response to questions about the length of the investigation, Corbett said yesterday:

“The one thing you do not want to do as a prosecutor is go on one case. ... You want to show a continued course of action.”

If a first set of charges are filed early and “you were to lose that one case, it would be much more difficult to bring charges in other cases because it would be seen by you, by the public, as vindictive,” he added.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 09:04:47 PM
http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/default.asp#13
Centre County Government
  Centre County, Pennsylvania
About

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Continuance of Preliminary Hearing
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:29:12 AM
The preliminary hearing of Commonwealth vs. Gerald Sandusky is continued to Tuesday, December 13, 2011, at 8:30 a.m. in Courtroom #1 of the Centre County Courthouse, 102 South Allegheny Street, Bellefonte, PA 16823. The Court selected this date and time to accommodate the logistical needs involved in the hearing.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 23, 2011, 02:54:04 AM
I can't believe that the lawyers are already attacking the underage victims.  That is usually done during court.  What a scumbag.  Maybe this genius lawyer can explain how all these different people managed to get together and plan this whole mess?  You've got underage boys, janitors, grad assistant, a mom, a bunch of cops with a recording.  I mean, please, this isn't going to go away by attacking kids.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 23, 2011, 08:31:41 AM
I can't believe that the lawyers are already attacking the underage victims.  That is usually done during court.  What a scumbag.  Maybe this genius lawyer can explain how all these different people managed to get together and plan this whole mess?  You've got underage boys, janitors, grad assistant, a mom, a bunch of cops with a recording.  I mean, please, this isn't going to go away by attacking kids.

ITA KittyMom. I think part of the plan of shaming the victims is two fold.  One, it discourages any potential new cases from coming forward, including minors (who would want their kids torn apart in public?) and two, it helps start casting doubt on the ones that have already come forward.  You'll notice he's also calling for those that have benefited from the Second Mile to come forward.  I can see how long and drawn out the legal proceeding might become, and they could die a death by being just plain worn out from being lawyered to death.  I can see this stretching out for years.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 23, 2011, 07:44:08 PM
I don't want to appear harsh to an elderly lady, but Joe Paterno was fired.  When a person is fired from a job, don't they (and their spouses) usually lose such privileges?  If you aren't a student or an employee, why should you be able to use campus facilities?  Usually you have to have an ID card on campuses to use facilities.  I have a son in college, and some activities are part of the blanket fee he pays with tuition, but to use the work out facilities, he pays $35.00 a semester.  There was a time he was between enrollment in his bachelor program and his masters program, he couldn't use the facilities.  It's unfortunate for Mrs. Paterno not to be able to use facilities and I don't know if there's a way for her to be able to do that.  Pay fees?  Or must you be an employee or dependent or a student to do so? 


http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Joe-Paterno-wife-banned-from-Penn-State-pool-in-wake-of-child-sex-abuse-scandal-112311
Report: PSU bans JoePa's wife from pool
November 23, 2011

The wife of former Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno will have to find a new place to swim after school officials decided to ban her from the university pool.
A source close to the Paterno family told The Harrisburg Patriot-News that Sue Paterno was informed Wednesday she would no longer be welcomed at the school's facilities, adding that no reason was given.


When asked to comment by The Patriot-News, Penn State spokesman Bill Mahon said, "I have heard nobody discuss this."

According to the family source, the wife of the 84-year-old iconic head coach used the Penn State facilities daily to swim and workout.

The Paterno family has remained mostly out of sight since the child sex abuse scandal involving former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky engulfed the State College campus earlier this month.

Paterno and university president Graham Spanier both lost their jobs in the immediate aftermath, while athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz were both charged with perjury for allegedly lying to a grand jury and for failing to report suspected child abuse.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 23, 2011, 08:44:17 PM
Latest accusation says former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky may have sexually abused a relative: lawyer

Victim asks court to bar charity from moving assets


BY Michael O’keeffe
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS


Accused child molester Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State defensive coordinator who has been charged with 40 counts of sexual abuse, may have molested a relative, a Pennsylvania newspaper reported on Wednesday.

The Patriot-News of Harrisburg said that Joe Amendola, Sandusky’s attorney, told the newspaper that one of the two new cases opened by Children and Youth Services in the last 60 days involved a family member.

Amendola said the alleged assault took place before Sandusky’s arrest on Nov. 5, but that authorities did not learn about it until after Sandusky was charged.

The Patriot-News said it will withhold Sandusky’s relationship to the child because it wants to protect the victim’s identity.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/latest-accusation-penn-state-coach-jerry-sandusky-sexually-abused-a-relative-lawyer-article-1.982031#ixzz1eaCCfRL9


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 23, 2011, 09:03:29 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I hope the child's identity remains secret.  


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on November 23, 2011, 09:39:51 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

I hope the child's identity remains secret.  

Me too Muffy.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 24, 2011, 12:46:23 AM
Latest accusation says former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky may have sexually abused a relative: lawyer

Victim asks court to bar charity from moving assets


BY Michael O’keeffe
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS


Accused child molester Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State defensive coordinator who has been charged with 40 counts of sexual abuse, may have molested a relative, a Pennsylvania newspaper reported on Wednesday.

The Patriot-News of Harrisburg said that Joe Amendola, Sandusky’s attorney, told the newspaper that one of the two new cases opened by Children and Youth Services in the last 60 days involved a family member.

Amendola said the alleged assault took place before Sandusky’s arrest on Nov. 5, but that authorities did not learn about it until after Sandusky was charged.

The Patriot-News said it will withhold Sandusky’s relationship to the child because it wants to protect the victim’s identity.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/latest-accusation-penn-state-coach-jerry-sandusky-sexually-abused-a-relative-lawyer-article-1.982031#ixzz1eaCCfRL9

OMGosh...could this be one of his grandkids?  What a monster.   :smt103


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 24, 2011, 02:14:53 PM
Get mad at me if you want but this is just plain wrong;
Sue Paterno told she can't use Penn State University pool to swim
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/sue_paterno_told_she_cant_use.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 25, 2011, 06:27:02 AM
Penn State campus pool didn't ban Sue Paterno; it's closed
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/campus_pool_didnt_ban_sue_pate.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 25, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
Penn State campus pool didn't ban Sue Paterno; it's closed
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/campus_pool_didnt_ban_sue_pate.html

Thank you for clearing this up alagary. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 25, 2011, 01:37:44 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/25/sanduskys-grandson-comes-forward-with-allegations-sexual-abuse/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Faffiliates%2Fkdfw+%28Affiliate+-+South+-+Dallas+-+TX+-+O%26O%29
Sandusky's Grandson Comes Forward With Allegations of Sexual Abuse
November 25, 2011

 ::snipping2::
A complaint was filed against the former assistant coach by the wife of one of  his adopted sons, Matt Sandusky with Pennsylvania's Children's and Youth Services, his lawyer told ABC News.

“The allegations are ridiculous and unfounded. Jerry has absolutely denied any inappropriate contact with his grand kids.” Sandusky's attorney Joseph Amendola said.

Sandusky's daughter-in-law filed for a restraining order after his November 5 arrest to prevent her children from sleeping over.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 26, 2011, 12:04:51 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/25/sanduskys-grandson-comes-forward-with-allegations-sexual-abuse/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Faffiliates%2Fkdfw+%28Affiliate+-+South+-+Dallas+-+TX+-+O%26O%29
Sandusky's Grandson Comes Forward With Allegations of Sexual Abuse
November 25, 2011

 ::snipping2::
A complaint was filed against the former assistant coach by the wife of one of  his adopted sons, Matt Sandusky with Pennsylvania's Children's and Youth Services, his lawyer told ABC News.

“The allegations are ridiculous and unfounded. Jerry has absolutely denied any inappropriate contact with his grand kids.” Sandusky's attorney Joseph Amendola said.

Sandusky's daughter-in-law filed for a restraining order after his November 5 arrest to prevent her children from sleeping over.
 ::snipping2::
Well, that explains the restraining order.  This monster should be sitting in a jail right now.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: crazybabyborg on November 26, 2011, 01:21:36 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/25/sanduskys-grandson-comes-forward-with-allegations-sexual-abuse/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Faffiliates%2Fkdfw+%28Affiliate+-+South+-+Dallas+-+TX+-+O%26O%29
Sandusky's Grandson Comes Forward With Allegations of Sexual Abuse
November 25, 2011

 ::snipping2::
A complaint was filed against the former assistant coach by the wife of one of  his adopted sons, Matt Sandusky with Pennsylvania's Children's and Youth Services, his lawyer told ABC News.

“The allegations are ridiculous and unfounded. Jerry has absolutely denied any inappropriate contact with his grand kids.” Sandusky's attorney Joseph Amendola said.

Sandusky's daughter-in-law filed for a restraining order after his November 5 arrest to prevent her children from sleeping over.
 ::snipping2::
Well, that explains the restraining order.  This monster should be sitting in a jail right now.

Yes and if they'd just put him in General Population, he wouldn't be able to sit anywhere.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 26, 2011, 07:41:37 AM
  Jerry Sandusky accusers plan to sue The Second Mile, attorneys say
 

"One of the accusers is seeking to stop The Second Mile from transferring assets as the charity weighs folding in the wake of child sex abuse charges against Sandusky, who founded the charity in 1977."
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/jerry_sandusky_accusers_plan_t.html



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on November 26, 2011, 07:45:46 AM
Silly little part of this mess but the press can't even get it right;
  Penn State and Sue Paterno working out a plan to use gym facilities
 

"Sue Paterno, wife of former head football coach Joe Paterno, was indeed told to leave a Penn State campus pool recently, according to a source close to the family."
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_and_sue_paterno_wor.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 26, 2011, 11:27:03 AM
Silly little part of this mess but the press can't even get it right;
  Penn State and Sue Paterno working out a plan to use gym facilities
 

"Sue Paterno, wife of former head football coach Joe Paterno, was indeed told to leave a Penn State campus pool recently, according to a source close to the family."
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_and_sue_paterno_wor.html


My son-in-law is a pilot.  The airline that he flies for offers many benefits for his immediate family ... benefits that are taken advantage of regularly.  If he were to quit or be fired those benefits would cease immediately.

Anyways ... it makes sense that Sue Paterno was aware of what her husband was aware of and did nothing.  That awareness would be that a little was observed being raped by Jerry Sandusky.  What action would this woman have taken if that little boy was her grandson.

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 26, 2011, 11:37:33 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/25/sanduskys-grandson-comes-forward-with-allegations-sexual-abuse/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Faffiliates%2Fkdfw+%28Affiliate+-+South+-+Dallas+-+TX+-+O%26O%29
Sandusky's Grandson Comes Forward With Allegations of Sexual Abuse
November 25, 2011

 ::snipping2::
A complaint was filed against the former assistant coach by the wife of one of  his adopted sons, Matt Sandusky with Pennsylvania's Children's and Youth Services, his lawyer told ABC News.

“The allegations are ridiculous and unfounded. Jerry has absolutely denied any inappropriate contact with his grand kids.” Sandusky's attorney Joseph Amendola said.

Sandusky's daughter-in-law filed for a restraining order after his November 5 arrest to prevent her children from sleeping over.
 ::snipping2::

If ONE who observed or had knowledge of the 2002 rape of a little boy by Jerry Sandusky had made waves ... how many other little boys in the past ten years would have been spared a lifetime of emotional pain?

Janet


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 26, 2011, 11:46:30 AM
Grand Jury Transcript

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 26, 2011, 01:35:34 PM
http://www.boston.com/yourtown/boston/roxbury/articles/2011/11/26/lawyers_want_charity_solvent/
Lawyers want charity solvent
November 26, 2011

Lawyers want a youth charity established by a former Penn State football assistant coach at the heart of a child molestation scandal to stay solvent so they can file future lawsuits for victims.

The Second Mile shouldn’t be allowed to dissolve its assets, according to a lawsuit filed late Wednesday on behalf of someone who claims to be a victim of Jerry Sandusky, the charity’s founder. The complaint also suggests some of the future legal strategies that may be used in civil lawsuits.

Lawyers Benjamin Andreozzi and Jeffrey Fritz are seeking an injunction to stop The Second Mile from dissolving or transferring its assets. Nonprofit corporations that cease operations are generally allowed to transfer assets to other charitable groups with a similar mission.

“We felt it was necessary to take this action after learning the organization was considering transferring its programs and not continuing its operations,’’ Andreozzi said, referring to reports last week that the charity was mulling several different options for its future, including the possibility of shutting down.

“We believe it is in the best interest of our clients, as well as the other victims, to ensure that the organization is being financially responsible. The injunction would not interrupt the everyday operations of The Second Mile or its existing programs.’’
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on November 26, 2011, 01:45:18 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/25/sanduskys-grandson-comes-forward-with-allegations-sexual-abuse/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Faffiliates%2Fkdfw+%28Affiliate+-+South+-+Dallas+-+TX+-+O%26O%29
Sandusky's Grandson Comes Forward With Allegations of Sexual Abuse
November 25, 2011

 ::snipping2::
A complaint was filed against the former assistant coach by the wife of one of  his adopted sons, Matt Sandusky with Pennsylvania's Children's and Youth Services, his lawyer told ABC News.

“The allegations are ridiculous and unfounded. Jerry has absolutely denied any inappropriate contact with his grand kids.” Sandusky's attorney Joseph Amendola said.

Sandusky's daughter-in-law filed for a restraining order after his November 5 arrest to prevent her children from sleeping over.
 ::snipping2::
Well, that explains the restraining order.  This monster should be sitting in a jail right now.

Yes and if they'd just put him in General Population, he wouldn't be able to sit anywhere.
hmm...literally or figuratively....or both?   <insert evil laugh here>


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 27, 2011, 02:53:33 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/11/penn-state-victim-mother-watched-vigil-anonymously/
Penn State Victim, Mother Watched Vigil Anonymously
November 27, 2011

Fifty people of all ages gathered Saturday to support Penn State’s alleged child sex abuse victims, unaware that “Victim 1,” as the high school boy was identified in a grand jury presentment, was inside a parked car a short distance away watching them.

The mother of the high school boy who said he was abused by Jerry Sandusky, told ABC News that she and her son watched the vigil Saturday night in Lock Haven, Pa., after hearing about it online and that it “meant a lot to him and his family.”

Victim 1, who according to his testimony, was 11 or 12 years old when he was first sexually abused by the 67-year-old former defensive assistant coach, endured such intense bullying following Sandusky’s arrest that he had to withdraw from his school.

The boy’s mother, who spoke exclusively to “Good Morning America,” said students at her son’s high school blamed him for triggering the sex abuse scandal that led to the firing of Joe Paterno, the beloved head coach who oversaw the university’s Nittany Lions football team for 46 years.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 27, 2011, 10:02:54 PM
It's child rape.  R-a-p-e.  JMHO 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57331697/sandusky-charges-bring-focus-on-pa-sex-crime-laws/
Sandusky charges bring focus on Pa. sex crime laws
November 27, 2011

AP)  HARRISBURG, Pa. — Plainly stated, the most serious of the 40 criminal charges against Jerry Sandusky are that he sexually attacked young boys, subjecting them to anal and oral sex.

That may sound to many people like a case of rape, but police and prosecutors instead charged him with seven felony counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse.

The question of whether to use the word rape comes down to the finer points of Pennsylvania state law, discretionary decisions by police and prosecutors and the necessarily politically charged language of sex in general and violent sexual offenses in particular.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 27, 2011, 10:04:52 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sandusky-charges-bring-focus-pa-sex-crime-laws-15036280
Sandusky Charges Bring Focus on Pa. Sex Crime Laws
November 27, 2011

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The question of whether to "call a rape a rape," as New York Times ombudsman Arthur S. Brisbane put it last week, comes down to the finer points of Pennsylvania state law, discretionary decisions made by police and prosecutors and the necessarily politically charged language of sex in general and violent sexual offenses in particular.

Legal experts say the Pennsylvania definition of the two crimes overlap considerably, but the legal definition of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, which pertains to anal and oral sex, any type of sex with an animal, and penetration with foreign objects, covers behavior different from a rape involving vaginal sex between an adult man and woman.

Forced anal sex can be charged as rape. It's not unusual for the two offenses to be lodged together for a single criminal act.

The decision about whether to charge rape or IDSI, as it is often referred to, can be a matter of courtroom tactics. Prosecutors sometimes worry that in scenarios such as the Sandusky allegations, where there has not been male-female vaginal sex, jurors can balk at declaring it rape.

"The layperson considers rape in terms of ordinary sexual intercourse," said northwestern Pennsylvania District Attorney Francis J. Schultz, president of the state prosecutors' association. "In Crawford County, we would choose the more specific offense if we were talking about anal or oral. We're going to charge IDSI. And it probably varies from prosecutor's office to prosecutor's office."

Gary Asteak, a criminal defense lawyer in Easton, prefers the term rape to involuntary deviate sexual intercourse for clarity's sake.

"Let's call it what it is," Asteak said. "IDSI is kind of a long term. ... It's a whole lot easier to say rape."
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 28, 2011, 07:53:37 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/justice/pennsylvania-penn-state-scandal/index.html
Lawyer: Ex-Penn State coach accused of sex abuse conducting own investigation
November 28, 2011

(CNN) -- Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State assistant football coach accused of sexually abusing boys over a 14-year period, is working with a private investigator in his quest to prove his innocence, his lawyer said Monday.

Attorney Joe Amendola said his client, who is free on $100,000 bail, is conducting his own investigation.

Besides the original attorney general's criminal inquiry, several other investigations have been launched tied to various aspects of Sandusky's case, including by Penn State and the U.S. Department of Education.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 28, 2011, 07:56:30 PM
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111128/NEWS90/111129756/-1/NEWSMAP
Sandusky hires private investigator to check out sex abuse claims
November 28, 2011


STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Accused child molester Jerry Sandusky has hired a private investigator to look into the slew of sexual abuse allegations against him, The Harrisburg Patriot-News reported Monday.

Since the former Penn State defensive coordinator's arrest Nov. 5, there have been several more victims who have come forward, prompting him to initiate his own probe into the charges, his attorney Joe Amendola told the paper.

 ::snipping2::
Meanwhile, attorneys for The Second Mile, the children's charity founded by Sandusky, asked a judge Wednesday to throw out a request to have the organization's assets frozen.

Lawyers for one of the eight alleged victims -- referred to as Victim Four in the grand jury report in the case -- filed an injunction last week requesting the freeze while their client and other alleged victims prepared to file a civil suit against the charity.

The Second Mile had roughly $9 million in assets as of the end of its fiscal year in Aug. 2010.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 28, 2011, 07:59:06 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57332367/sanduskys-second-mile-charity-donate-elsewhere/
Sandusky's Second Mile charity: Donate elsewhere
November 28, 2011

(AP)

HARRISBURG, Pa. - A charity for at-risk children founded by a former Penn State assistant football coach now charged with molesting boys has asked its donors to give their money to the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape instead.

The Second Mile made the recommendation Monday in the latest sign its days may be numbered. But the charity said its December programs will continue as scheduled.


The Second Mile was founded in the 1970s by Jerry Sandusky, who was charged this month with sexual abuse of eight boys over a 15-year period. Prosecutors say Sandusky met victims through the charity. He denies the allegations.
Last week, the charity said it was considering restructuring, transferring programs to other organizations or ceasing operations.

Lawyers for one of the people described in a grand jury report as a victim of repeated sexual attacks by Sandusky are seeking a court order to prevent the charity from unloading its assets.
 ::snipping2::
Also Monday, a team with the U.S. Department of Education arrived in State College as part of the federal investigation into whether the school violated reporting mandates for campus crime.

The federal investigation centers on whether reporting provisions of the Clery Act were complied with in the Sandusky case. State prosecutors also charged athletic director Tim Curley and former vice president Gary Schultz with not properly reporting suspected child abuse and perjury before a grand jury.

Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers said the university was "pulling a lot of data and archival information" for the Department of Education investigators.

"They will either be meeting with a long list of people even beyond the police force or reviewing their data, areas like student affairs, human resources, counseling services, residence life, athletics and senior administrators," she said.

Penn State President Rodney Erickson, who took the post after Graham Spanier was forced out in the aftermath of the arrests, said the school has been doing its best to provide the records the Department of Education has sought.

Violations of the Clery Act, named for a Lehigh University freshman who was raped and murdered in her dorm room by another student in 1986, can bring fines and a loss of federal student aid.

The student forum, planned for Wednesday at Heritage Hall on the University Park main campus, will be restricted to students who obtained tickets ahead of time by showing valid Penn State IDs. It will be broadcast by the Pennsylvania Cable Network and streamed over the Internet. Viewing areas also are being established at all of Penn State's other campuses.
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Samantha on November 28, 2011, 08:17:48 PM
Investigation Discovery is showing an episode of Disappeared at 9pm EST about
Gricar's disappearance. "A Family's Curse" (2011)

I don't know if there's a post just about his case but I know its been discussed in this one.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 28, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
Investigation Discovery is showing an episode of Disappeared at 9pm EST about
Gricar's disappearance. "A Family's Curse" (2011)

I don't know if there's a post just about his case but I know its been discussed in this one.


Thanks Samantha.  We don't have a thread just about the Gricar case.  It's quite interesting, imo.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 28, 2011, 09:30:40 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-11-28/Penn-State-sex-abuse-perjury-hearing/51451554/1
Penn State officials to court in alleged perjury over abuse
November 28, 2011

The Penn State University child sex abuse scandal moves to a courtroom next week and attorneys for the two university administrators charged with perjury already are taking aim at the credibility of the state's star witness against them.

Lawyers for former athletic director Tim Curley and former senior vice president Gary Schultz are focusing on Michael McQueary's recent statements that appear to contradict grand jury testimony about a 2002 incident in which McQueary allegedly saw Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky rape a 10-year-old boy.

Curley and Schultz are scheduled to appear at a Dec. 6 preliminary hearing to determine if the case should proceed to trial.
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 30, 2011, 03:58:29 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203802204577066233328186376.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Where Were Penn State's Trustees?
When the most highly paid employee is the football coach, it's clear something is awry.

By ANNE NEAL

(Ms. Neal is president of the American Council of Trustees and Alumni.)

Interesting comments.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 30, 2011, 04:00:13 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11334/1193436-454.stm
Penn State president reassures applicants
In light of scandal, letter says students have shown that the 'community is compassionate and strong'

By Bill Schackner, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
November 30, 2011

Penn State University President Rodney Erickson has reached out to tens of thousands of prospective students whose interest may have been dampened by child sex abuse allegations that have roiled campus.

Without directly mentioning the Nov. 5 arrest of former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky and the dismissal of former head football coach Joe Paterno and resignation of President Graham Spanier, Mr. Erickson in a series of letters alluded to the challenges of recent days but said the university remains strong
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 30, 2011, 04:01:59 AM
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2011/11/29/penn-state-names-paterno-replacement.html
Penn State names Paterno replacement committee: Report
November 29, 2011


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 30, 2011, 01:34:15 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11334/1193528-100-0.stm
New accuser files sex abuse lawsuit against Sandusky
November 30, 2011

A civil lawsuit filed today against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky accuses him of sexually abusing a boy more than 100 times over a four-year span.

The suit, filed in Philadelphia County Common Pleas Court, identifies the victim only as "John Doe A." It also names as defendants the university and The Second Mile, the nonprofit organization founded by Mr. Sandusky to work with children.

The suit said the boy was 10 when he met Mr. Sandusky in 1992 as a participant in The Second Mile's programs. It said Mr. Sandusky abused him "on multiple occasions and at multiple locations within Pennsylvania and outside of Pennsylvania; in the facilities of Penn State, particularly the football coach's locker room; at times within Philadelphia County; at facilities out of state connected with a Penn State bowl game; and at the Sandusky home."

It said Mr. Sandusky threatened the boy and threatened to harm his family if he told anyone about the abuse.
 ::snipping2::
In a statement separate from the lawsuit, "John Doe A," now a 29-year-old State College resident, said he never told anyone of the alleged abuse until hearing news accounts of the charges.

"I am hurting and have been for a long time because of what happened but feel now even more tormented that I have learned ... so many other kids were abused after me. Now that I have told and done something about it I am feeling better and going to get help and work with the police," the statement said. "I want other people who have been hurt to know they can come forward and get help and help protect others in the future."

It was the first in what is expected to become a series of civil suits against Penn State, Mr. Sandusky and The Second Mile.

In a statement today, The Second Mile said: "We will review the lawsuit and respond appropriately when we have done so. The Second Mile will adhere to its legal responsibilities throughout this process. As always, our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families."

Mr. Sandusky's attorney and officials at Penn State did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The suit asserts that Penn State and the Second Mile knew or should have known about Mr. Sandusky's purported history of sexual abuse and failed to notify parents or do anything to stop him. Attorney Jeffrey R. Anderson has asked a court to award his client unspecified damages in excess of $50,000.

"Our goal today is to bring this forth, put some light on it and also put some heat on it," Mr. Anderson said at a news conference.
 ::snipping2::
Legal experts have predicted that both the university and The Second Mile could face dozens of suits as the scandal continues to unfold.

Mr. Anderson and co-counsel Marci Hamilton have a long history of trying civil sexual abuse lawsuits against the Catholic Church. They are currently involved in more than a half-dozen suits against the Archdiocese of Philadelphia.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 30, 2011, 01:57:00 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/30/new-accuser-alleges-sandusky-sexually-abused-him-more-than-100-times/
New Accuser Alleges Sandusky Sexually Abused Him More Than 100 Times
November 30, 2011

Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky sexually abused a young boy more than 100 times after meeting him through The Second Mile charity he founded in 1977, according to a civil lawsuit filed Wednesday.

The 27-page lawsuit, which was filed in Philadelphia, identifies the alleged victim -- now 29 -- as John Doe. It lists Sandusky, The Second Mile and Penn State as defendants, claiming Sandusky abused the boy at his State College home, at Penn State facilities and on at least one bowl game trip.

In a statement provided by his attorneys, the unidentified 29-year-old man said he filed the lawsuit because he did not want "other kids to be hurt and abused" by Sandusky.
 ::snipping2::
The alleged abuse occurred after Sandusky met the then-10-year-old boy through his charity in 1992 and continued until 1996, according to the lawsuit. Attorney Jeffrey Anderson said Sandusky threatened the boy's family to keep quiet about the encounters.

"Sandusky made a threat to him that nobody would believe him and made a threat to his family," Anderson said.

"The sexual abuse occurred on multiple occasions and at multiple locations within Pennsylvania and outside of Pennsylvania; in the facilities of Penn State, particularly the football coach's locker room," the lawsuit reads. "His molestation was enabled by the negligent oversight of Sandusky by Second Mile and Penn State."
Sandusky allegedly abused eight boys throughout a 15-year period. This latest alleged victim is not among those identified in a grand jury report released this month.
 ::snipping2::
Anderson said Sandusky, who remains free on bail, "belongs behind bars" today.

"Sandusky is out there free on bail or low on bail and walking the streets knowing what we know, he is out there," he said. "Imagine how the survivors are feeling,"
 ::snipping2::
Nils Frederiksen, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania attorney general, declined comment on the new accusations to FoxNews.com due to the "ongoing nature" of the grand jury investigation.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on November 30, 2011, 05:55:28 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/11/30/penn-state-abuse.ap/index.html
Accuser says Jerry Sandusky abused him more than 100 times
November 30, 2011

PHILADELPHIA (AP) Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky sexually abused a boy more than 100 times, and threatened to harm his family to keep him quiet, according to a lawsuit filed Wednesday by a new accuser who is not part of the criminal case.

The 29-year-old, identified only as John Doe, had never told anyone about the alleged abuse until Sandusky was charged this month with abusing other boys. He filed a complaint with law enforcement on Tuesday, and a day later became the first plaintiff to file suit in the Penn State child sex-abuse scandal.

The lawsuit claims Sandusky abused the boy from 1992, when the boy was 10, until 1996 in encounters at the coach's State College home, in a Penn State locker room and on trips, including to a bowl game. The account echoes a grand jury's description of trips, gifts and attention lavished on other alleged victims.
 ::snipping2::
The lawsuit names Sandusky, the university and The Second Mile charity as defendants. The man says he knew the coach through the charity, which Sandusky founded in 1977, ostensibly to help disadvantaged children in central Pennsylvania.

The man was not referenced in the grand jury report that charges Sandusky with abusing eight boys over a 15-year period.

His lawyer, Jeff Anderson, said he believes Sandusky was a predator who could not control his sexual impulses toward children. He harshly criticized officials at Penn State and The Second Mile who failed to report their suspicions and put a stop to any abuse.

"We need to address the institutional recklessness and failures," said Anderson, who specializes in clergy sex-abuse lawsuits. "Was it because of power, money, fear, loyalty, lack of education?"
 ::snipping2::
The university said it had not yet seen the complaint.

The charity said it would respond after reviewing the lawsuit, but added: "The Second Mile will adhere to its legal responsibilities throughout this process. As always, our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families."

The man who filed the lawsuit said Sandusky gave him gifts, travel and privileges after meeting him through his charity in 1992. The abuse began shortly afterward, the suit said.

Anderson suggested that it ended four years later because Sandusky was not sexually interested in older teens.
 ::snipping2::
Anderson described Penn State and the charity as entwined institutions, and charged that both failed to ensure that children were safe when they took part in trips and activities.

The lawsuit seeks a minimum $400,000 in damages for sexual abuse, negligence, emotional distress and other claims. The accuser long thought he was the only victim and was mired in guilt and self-loathing, the lawyer said.

By Anderson's count, the grand jury report lists 17 adults made aware of complaints or suspicions about the coach over the years, including those who knew of a 1998 complaint that Sandusky had showered with a Second Mile boy. Police pursued that mother's complaint, and compiled more than 100 pages of investigatory notes, but no charges were filed.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2011, 02:52:24 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/01/penn-state-pledges-15-million-for-sex-crimes-groups/
Penn State Pledges $1.5 Million for Sex-Crimes Groups
December 1, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State University officials have vowed to increase transparency and ethical standards and plan to donate $1.5 million in bowl proceeds to a pair of sex-crime advocacy organizations in the wake of shocking sex-abuse allegations levied against the school's once-revered assistant football coach.

University President Rod Erickson promised the donation Thursday morning, a day after he and other administrators faced pointed questions at a student-organized town hall forum.

Erickson told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday that the Big Ten bowl revenue, which usually goes back to the athletic department, will go to the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape and the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.

"This presents an excellent opportunity for Penn State to raise the national visibility of this issue," Erickson said. "Our students and fans are focused on a cause to play for, to cheer for."
 ::snipping2::
In State College, administrators sought to reassure students worried about the unintended ramifications of the scandal, such as the reputation of a Penn State degree.

After several questioners mentioned they felt shamed by the scandal, vice president Henry Foley, as part of an answer about the school's top three priorities, told students to focus on academics and to "recognize that none of you are guilty. ... You may feel shame, but none of you are guilty. Just keep doing what you came here to do."

An overflow crowd watched the forum in another auditorium at the student union, while students at Penn State branch campuses could also email questions.
 ::snipping2::
The scandal has resulted in the departures of Paterno and university President Graham Spanier. Athletic Director Tim Curley has been placed on administrative leave, and Vice President Gary Schultz, who was in charge of the university's police department, has stepped down.

Schultz and Curley are charged with lying to the grand jury and failure to report to police. Sandusky is charged with child sex abuse. All maintain their innocence.

Erickson told reporters after the forum that Spanier was currently on sabbatical, and that as a tenured faculty member would have the right to teach if he so desired.

Several students also asked about the treatment of Paterno, who was the only school leader fired in the scandal's aftermath. Erickson said afterward he could not offer a detailed answer because it was the trustees' decision.

He reiterated there was no truth to Internet-fueled rumors that Paterno's statue outside Beaver Stadium would be removed, or that the Paterno name would be removed from the campus library to which the Paterno family had donated millions to help build.

"At some appropriate time down the road, I'm sure there will be an opportunity to also reflect on the many years of service Joe and (wife Sue Paterno) provided the university and the many good things that they've done for Penn State," Erickson said, eliciting brief applause.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
http://live.psu.edu/story/56609
Penn State Town Hall Forum provides open discussion
November 30, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2011, 04:29:59 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57334836/lawyer-jerry-sandusky-wont-plead-guilty/
Lawyer: Jerry Sandusky won't plead guilty
December 1, 2011

(CBS/AP)

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - Jerry Sandusky's lawyer says he hasn't discussed pleading guilty with his client and that the former Penn State assistant football coach still maintains he's innocent of the charges against him.

Joe Amendola said Thursday that he'd consider "possible alternatives" with Sandusky if new charges are filed that involve more victims than the eight boys covered by the 40 pending criminal counts.

Amendola says Sandusky has never considered a plea in his case.

The 67-year-old former Penn State assistant coach is awaiting a preliminary hearing on the charges.

Amendola says the topic of a guilty plea came up as a "what-if" question about potential additional charges in a recent interview and that if more charges are filed he would only then discuss the possibility of a plea.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2011, 10:29:25 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/sandusky-charity-settles-with-alleged-sex-abuse-victim/1
Sandusky charity settles with alleged sex abuse victim
December 1, 2011

The Second Mile, the charity run by beleaguered Penn State University former football coach Jerry Sandusky, has settled a lawsuit with one of Sandusky's alleged sexual abuse victims, Bloomberg is reporting
Lawyer Ben Andreozzi, who represents an alleged victim identified as John Doe #4, told the news organization that The Second Mile agreed to obtain court approval before transferring assets or closing down. The alleged victim was seeking to freeze the charity's assets.

"Our goal in filing this lawsuit was to protect the interests of our clients and other victims," Andreozzi told Bloomberg news. "We intend to initiate a civil lawsuit seeking damages from the organizations and individuals responsible for sexual assaults upon our clients."

Andreozzi and one other lawyer, Jeffrey Fritz, told The Associated Press that the lawsuit protects the rights of John Doe #4 to the charity's assets but lets the operations continue.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2011, 10:30:47 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-walsh-americas-most-wanted-jerry-sandusky-penn-state-268574
John Walsh on the Jerry Sandusky Sex Scandal: 'It's Disgusting and Appalling'
December 1, 2011

The host of "America's Most Wanted," which makes its Lifetime debut Friday, criticizes those involved for protecting "the mighty football program at Penn State" and hopes it will bring about a change in laws requiring mandatory reporting of sexual abuse against children.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 02, 2011, 04:30:02 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/attorney_for_victim_six_says_d.html
Alleged victim's dinner with Jerry Sandusky was OK'd by police, attorney says
December 2, 2011

The attorney for Victim Six -- the now-24-year-old who reported indecent contact with Jerry Sandusky in 1998 when no charges were filed -- says police knew beforehand that he was invited to dine with Sandusky and his wife last summer and reported the experience back to authorities.

Howard A. Janet, the attorney recently hired to represent Victim Six and his family, issued a statement to The Patriot-News today in response to something Sandusky's attorney, Joe Amendola, said in an interview this week. Sandusky was charged in the sexual assault of eight boys after a years-long grand jury investigation
Amendola, as part of an outline of his defense, said four of the eight victims in the 28-page grand jury presentment had recent friendly contact with Sandusky, including Victims Six and Two, who had dinner with the Sandusky family last summer.

In response, Janet said: "It is grotesque that Sandusky or his lawyer would suggest that a victim of molestation attending a dinner Sandusky invited him to is somehow a defense to the indefensible actions of which Sandusky has been accused."

State College civil rights attorney Justine Andronici -- whose partner, Amendola claims, represents Victim Two -- made similarly angry remarks Wednesday evening when she learned that Amendola believes that Victim Two is a positive witness for the defense.
 ::snipping2::

Video at Link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 02, 2011, 06:59:14 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/executive_penn_state_board_mem.html
Penn State board executive committee makes Joe Paterno firing official today
December 2, 2011

The Penn State Board of Trustees met this morning and officially ratified the firing of head football coach  Joe Paterno and stepping down of university president Graham Spanier in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.

 ::snipping2::

The votes were unanimous. “Due to extraordinary circumstances, the board needed to act swiftly and decisively Nov. 9. We believe that immediate action was necessary and we stand by those decisions," board president Steve Garban said.

The entire 32-member board will accept the minutes at its January meeting.

Mary Kay Paterno was present and asked several questions about local members of the executive committee failing to show up in person. They attended by phone.

Videos. photos and copy of resolution at link.  


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 02, 2011, 08:34:05 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/03/us-crime-coach-pennstate-idUSTRE7B11CM20111203
Second Mile charity to freeze assets following lawsuit
(Reuters) - The Second Mile charity has agreed to freeze its assets to settle a lawsuit filed by a man identified only as Victim 4 in a sexual abuse indictment against a former Penn State football coach, the man's lawyers said on Friday.
December 2, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 03, 2011, 08:46:22 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html
Center of Penn State Scandal, Sandusky Tells His Own Story
By JO BECKER
December 3, 2011

The former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, in his first extended interview since his indictment on sexual abuse charges last month, said Coach Joe Paterno never spoke to him about any suspected misconduct with minors. Mr. Sandusky also said the charity he worked for never restricted his access to children until he became the subject of a criminal investigation in 2008.
The failure by Mr. Paterno to act more aggressively after being told in 2002 that Mr. Sandusky had molested a 10-year-old boy in the showers of the university’s football building played a role in Mr. Paterno’s firing last month after 62 years at Penn State. Mr. Sandusky, in the interview, said that Mr. Paterno did not speak to him or confront him over the accusation, despite the fact that Mr. Sandusky had been one of his assistant coaches for three decades and was a regular presence at the football team’s complex for years after the 2002 episode.

Mr. Sandusky, in a nearly four-hour interview over two days this week, insisted he had never sexually abused any child, but he confirmed details of some of the events that prosecutors have cited in charging him with 40 counts of molesting young boys, all of whom came to know Mr. Sandusky through the charity he founded, known as the Second Mile.
More... (3 pg. article)
Video at link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 03, 2011, 08:55:54 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jerry-sandusky-engage-sexual-acts/story?id=15078822
Jerry Sandusky: 'I'm Not the Monster Everyone Made Me Out to Be'
By LEEZEL TANGLAO
December 3, 2011


Jerry Sandusky, the man at the center of the Penn State sex abuse scandal defended himself against sexual abuse allegations for the first time in an on camera interview.

"These allegations are false, I didn't do those things," Sandusky told the New York Times in an extensive interview. "I'm not the monster everyone made me out to be. I didn't engage in sexual acts."

Sandusky has been charged with molesting eight boys over the course of 15 years. He is set to return to court for a preliminary hearing on Dec. 13.

Sandusky said former Penn State head coach Joe Paterno never talked to him about any alleged incidents of abuse with minors.

"I don't know that he didn't know. I know that he never said anything to me, I know that," Sandusky told Times.
"I never talked to him about either one," Sandusky told the newspaper.

On Paterno's knowledge, Sandusky said, "He's the only one who knows whether anybody ever said anything to him."

Paterno was fired by Penn State Trustees on Nov. 9.

When Sandusky was first confronted by a Penn State official about the incident where young Assistant Coach Mike McQueary claimed to have seen him raping a boy in the team showers he said, "that it didn't happen, in my mind there wasn't inappropriate behavior."

He said his punishment was to no longer bring children to the college's football facilities.

"He didn't want me to bring kids in there and work them out anymore, and I remember saying well could I just work them out? And he said no."

In addition, Sandusky said the charity he worked for never restricted his access to young people, until he was the subject of a criminal investigation in 2008.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on December 03, 2011, 10:03:07 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html
Center of Penn State Scandal, Sandusky Tells His Own Story
By JO BECKER
December 3, 2011

The former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, in his first extended interview since his indictment on sexual abuse charges last month, said Coach Joe Paterno never spoke to him about any suspected misconduct with minors. Mr. Sandusky also said the charity he worked for never restricted his access to children until he became the subject of a criminal investigation in 2008.
The failure by Mr. Paterno to act more aggressively after being told in 2002 that Mr. Sandusky had molested a 10-year-old boy in the showers of the university’s football building played a role in Mr. Paterno’s firing last month after 62 years at Penn State. Mr. Sandusky, in the interview, said that Mr. Paterno did not speak to him or confront him over the accusation, despite the fact that Mr. Sandusky had been one of his assistant coaches for three decades and was a regular presence at the football team’s complex for years after the 2002 episode.

Mr. Sandusky, in a nearly four-hour interview over two days this week, insisted he had never sexually abused any child, but he confirmed details of some of the events that prosecutors have cited in charging him with 40 counts of molesting young boys, all of whom came to know Mr. Sandusky through the charity he founded, known as the Second Mile.
More... (3 pg. article)
Video at link

As a charity is this a normal thing to do?

Quote
Mr. Sandusky said he regularly gave money to the disadvantaged boys at his charity, opened bank accounts for them, and gave them gifts that had been donated to the charity.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 03, 2011, 11:13:34 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/at-center-of-penn-state-scandal-sandusky-tells-his-own-story.html
Center of Penn State Scandal, Sandusky Tells His Own Story
By JO BECKER
December 3, 2011

The former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, in his first extended interview since his indictment on sexual abuse charges last month, said Coach Joe Paterno never spoke to him about any suspected misconduct with minors. Mr. Sandusky also said the charity he worked for never restricted his access to children until he became the subject of a criminal investigation in 2008.
The failure by Mr. Paterno to act more aggressively after being told in 2002 that Mr. Sandusky had molested a 10-year-old boy in the showers of the university’s football building played a role in Mr. Paterno’s firing last month after 62 years at Penn State. Mr. Sandusky, in the interview, said that Mr. Paterno did not speak to him or confront him over the accusation, despite the fact that Mr. Sandusky had been one of his assistant coaches for three decades and was a regular presence at the football team’s complex for years after the 2002 episode.

Mr. Sandusky, in a nearly four-hour interview over two days this week, insisted he had never sexually abused any child, but he confirmed details of some of the events that prosecutors have cited in charging him with 40 counts of molesting young boys, all of whom came to know Mr. Sandusky through the charity he founded, known as the Second Mile.
More... (3 pg. article)
Video at link

As a charity is this a normal thing to do?

Quote
Mr. Sandusky said he regularly gave money to the disadvantaged boys at his charity, opened bank accounts for them, and gave them gifts that had been donated to the charity.

This, among other things just don't seem to be right imo. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 03, 2011, 11:14:50 AM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/alleged_victims_lawyer_raises.html
Alleged victim's lawyer raises questions about Jerry Sandusky's dinner 'reunion' of Second Mile kids
December 3, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 03, 2011, 01:03:38 PM
The more that comes out about this case the more convinced I am that Ray Gricar was going to come clean about what he knew when he retired and it got him killed.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 03, 2011, 06:01:37 PM
The more that comes out about this case the more convinced I am that Ray Gricar was going to come clean about what he knew when he retired and it got him killed.

It's certainly getting more interesting, isn't it?  I just wonder how deep it all goes?  How much money and how many reputations are involved?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 03, 2011, 06:04:44 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/report-sandusky-talks-paterno-case-15078602
Accuser's Lawyers: Sandusky Account 'Unconvincing'
December 3, 2011

Interesting comments including this one:

myak23
5:15 AM EST
Dec 03, 2011
Well, it is certainly plausible that all Paterno told Sandusky was that he would never be the head football coach. He may not have told him the reason why. If Paterno didn't tell him the reason why that makes him even more of an accomplice after the facts were revealed to him by McQueary. But, in all of Sandusky's answers to the more detailed circumstances surrounding the alleged molestations, he is clearly dancing around the answers: "I think alot of the kids really reached out for wrestling and hugging." "I tried to reward them sometimes with a little money in hand." "I've had kid after kid after kid who MIGHT say I was a father figure." You can already see the types of answers he will be giving in court when this goes to trial. I give him credit. He's a smart one. He'll probably lip dance his way right out of this.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 03, 2011, 07:28:04 PM
I don't understand how Sandusky's wife stomachs him. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on December 03, 2011, 07:47:19 PM
I don't understand how Sandusky's wife stomachs him. 

It makes it hard for me to believe she had no clue.  She makes me sick too.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: labubske on December 04, 2011, 09:06:31 AM
The more that comes out about this case the more convinced I am that Ray Gricar was going to come clean about what he knew when he retired and it got him killed.

You aren't the only one:

Cyril Wecht: Centre County DA's Disappearance Linked To PSU Scandal

Posted: 5:12 pm EST November 17, 2011

http://www.wpxi.com/news/29798108/detail.html

PITTSBURGH -- Dr. Cyril Wecht, well-known forensic pathologist, said he believes the disappearance of a Centre County District Attorney is somehow linked to the Penn State sex abuse scandal.

"I believe that his disappearance is almost certainly related to this Penn State debacle," Wecht said.

Ray Gricar disappeared in 2005 and was declared dead earlier this year.

"You've got his car being found, locked with cellphones inside. The computers found and the hard drive is found there in the river. The body is never found," Wecht said. "Looks to me like it was staged."

And then there is this:

(http://media.pennlive.com/patriot-news/photo/-7e99cfb8ae369df2.jpg)

Could this be Ray Gricar? Utah authorities trying to identify John Doe mystery prisoner

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/07/could_this_be_ray_gricar.html



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 04, 2011, 09:39:30 AM
I've started a thread for Ray Gricar in the Missing and Exploited Forum here at SM.  He's been declared dead, but I think there's enough interest among us for further investigation and discussion, given the Sandusky probe and allegations at PSU.


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12469.msg1493963#msg1493963
Former DA Ray Gricar Reported Missing 4/16/05 - Sandusky Probe Raises Questions


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: San on December 04, 2011, 09:50:59 AM
(http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/img/static/columnists/hdr/col_hdr_lupica.jpg)

Jerry Sandusky needs a Fine lesson in keeping his mouth shut amid Penn State sex scandal

Every time Sandusky opens his mouh, he acts as if he wants to bring Penn State down with him


NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Saturday, December 3 2011, 9:30 PM

The amazing thing about Jerry Sandusky, who doesn’t shut up because the glorified ambulance chaser who represents him keeps encouraging him to talk, is that he thinks he is the one who gets to act offended by what has happened at Penn State since the world found out what he is accused of doing with young boy after young boy.

Now Sandusky talks to the New York Times over two days this past week, after talking to Bob Costas a couple of weeks ago on television. And, according to Jo Becker’s reporting, Sandusky grows animated when asked about what has happened since the light found him and the grand jury report about him, the way a light finds a cockroach.

Except cockroaches generally try to hide once they come into the light. Not Jerry Sandusky.

“I don’t think it was fair,” Sandusky is quoted as saying on the subject of Paterno and Penn State.

Sandusky is clearly talking about all of it: The firings of Paterno and Penn State president Graham Spanier, the legal difficulties of former athletic director Tim Curley and former school vice president Gary Schultz. “Unfair,” Sandusky says. But every time he opens his mouth — at the urging of his lawyer, Joseph Amendola — he acts as if he wants to bring the whole school down on top of him. And them.

If he hasn’t done that already.

At least Bernie Fine, the Syracuse assistant coach accused of child molestation by three young men, has had the good sense — at least so far — not to give the kind of interviews that Sandusky has given to NBC first and now the Times. This doesn’t mean that Fine is innocent, doesn’t mean that ESPN and the Syracuse Post Standard covered themselves with glory in their handling of the Fine story, because they sure did not. Not in 2002 and 2003 and not now.

And three years later the administration at Syracuse University, when presented with the accusations against Fine, did no better than Penn State did after the first questions were raised about Sandusky. Now the chancellor of that school, Nancy Cantor, wants to tell everybody all about it. Cantor could be fired soon the way Spanier was at Penn State.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/jerry-sandusky-a-fine-lesson-keeping-mouth-shut-penn-state-sex-scandal-article-1.986417#ixzz1fZrTDb3q

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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: labubske on December 04, 2011, 09:57:16 AM
I've started a thread for Ray Gricar in the Missing and Exploited Forum here at SM.  He's been declared dead, but I think there's enough interest among us for further investigation and discussion, given the Sandusky probe and allegations at PSU.


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12469.msg1493963#msg1493963
Former DA Ray Gricar Reported Missing 4/16/05 - Sandusky Probe Raises Questions

Thanks MuffyBee, it is definitely something to look into.  I will dig in after church and chores.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 04, 2011, 11:20:57 AM
Sandusky's brain is overpowered by his ego. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 04, 2011, 12:13:26 PM
Sandusky's brain is overpowered by his ego. 

ITA  ::rhino:: 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 04, 2011, 06:34:07 PM
http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/555964/Would-word-of-Sandusky-allegation-have-made-it-to-Altoona-.html?nav=742
Would word of Sandusky allegation have made it to Altoona?
1999 proposal for Sandusky-led football program being questioned

December 4, 2011

A failed proposal in 1999 to bring football to Penn State Altoona would have brought Jerry Sandusky to the campus as the coach. What's not clear is whether Penn State Altoona would have gotten an inkling of a possible stain on Sandusky's reputation.

Based on information in a grand jury presentment, when then-head coach Joe Paterno made the proposal at least four University Park officials knew about an alleged 1998 shower incident involving Sandusky and a boy that was investigated by university police. The officials - Vice President Gary Schultz, counsel Wendell Courtney, police Director Thomas Harmon and detective Ronald Schreffler - were all named in the grand jury's findings in the Sandusky case.

University police - along with State College police - investigated the incident and discussed it with then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar, who decided not to file charges, according to the presentment.

No one apparently gave an initial heads-up about that incident to the local campus, and it seems to be a tossup whether university policies would have alerted Altoona campus officials about the investigation if Sandusky had been hired.

According to Shari Routch, director of university relations for Penn State Altoona, employment records don't follow an employee who bids on a posted job at another Penn State campus.

"However, it is our practice [at the university as a whole] to do detailed reference checks, so any potential issue would surface," Routch said adding that those checks include criminal histories.

"There's no way of knowing" if the process she outlined would have exposed the alleged incident in 1998, she said.

A criminal history doesn't generally include information about investigations that don't lead to formal charges, according to Altoona defense lawyer Tom Dickey.

The Pennsylvania Access to Criminal History glossary says checks include convictions, charges, arrests and indictments but not "intelligence [or] investigative information."

Penn State spokesman Geoff Rushton explained the university's hiring procedures with confidence that concerns about any incident would have been communicated.

"Personnel files may or may not travel with an employee, depending on the unit [department] and what the unit decides," Rushton said in an email.
The university is "one employer," and relies "on an exchange of information among units," he said.

"We do talk with one another and share critical information, whether that is through a file, a reference check or a background check," he said. "There are things that we certainly hope and expect are being communicated that are not necessarily ever found in an employee file."

The reference and background checks follow a protocol and are "thorough," he said.

Since the Sandusky case came to public attention early last month, critics have wondered if the university in 1999 concocted the campus football plan to shift the potential problem away from University Park, while giving Sandusky a "soft landing," as expressed in a recent Mirror editorial.

Allen Meadors, then Penn State Altoona's chief executive officer, doesn't think it is likely that Altoona officials would have found out about the problem, had the plan come to fruition.

"I've seen no one saying they were letting anyone know," he said. "Unless there's somebody other than we know about [who would have passed on the information]."
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The exception is Rod Kirsch, senior vice president for development and alumni relations, who conducted the study of financial feasibility that determined there wasn't enough interest at the time to raise the necessary $7 million endowment for a campus football program.

Kirsch, however, said he doesn't know "who, if anyone, within the administration, knew about the 1998 investigation."

"I certainly did not," he said.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 05, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
http://philly.citybizlist.com/2/2011/12/5/Howard-A.-Janet-Counsel-for-Sandusky-Victim-6-Sets-Record-Straight-On-Dinner-Defense.aspx
Howard A. Janet, Counsel for Sandusky "Victim 6," Sets Record Straight On "Dinner Defense"
December 5, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 05, 2011, 04:14:17 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Former-Penn-State-coach-Joe-Paterno-had-business-ties-to-Second-Mile-board-members-120511
Report: Paterno had ties to Second Mile
December 5, 2011

Former Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno had close business ties with board members of The Second Mile, the charity that his assistant, accused child molester Jerry Sandusky, allegedly used to recruit his victims, The Daily has learned.
Around the same time a graduate assistant allegedly approached Paterno in 2002 to say he had witnessed Sandusky raping a boy in the locker room showers, Paterno and three fellow investors, including longtime Second Mile board chairman Robert Poole, had just secured financing to build a $125 million luxury retirement community, according to public records.

Paterno also was partners with this team on developing a golf resort and nearby restaurant and inn. He has also partnered with other current and former Second Mile board members on a bottled water company, a coaching website and a chain of convenience stores.

The Second Mile has said in a statement that Sandusky told the charity he was under investigation in 2008 and was immediately removed from programs involving children, although Sandusky didn't resign until last year. In an interview with The New York Times published Saturday, Sandusky said Paterno never confronted him about the accusations.

Officials at the charity would not specify who was notified. But some have questioned whether certain people within the charity knew before 2008, given Paterno's close business and personal relationships -- including dinners and a Bahamas vacation -- with Poole and several other past and present board members.

"I honestly think there was a conversation. I can't believe there wasn't one," fumed one former board member. "To be honest, I think people were worried about what would happen to Penn State and The Second Mile if Jerry Sandusky was found out."

Pinnacle Development, one-half of the developer team that built The Village at Penn State, included Paterno, Poole, William Schreyer -- a Penn State trustee whose daughter is a longtime board member of The Second Mile -- and local developer Philip Sieg.

Each partner stood to make an estimated $590,000 in fees and 15 percent annual interest on an $125,000 initial investment if the project was successful enough to get funding for a second phase.

It wasn't. The Village's nonprofit owner filed for bankruptcy Wednesday. The filing indicated that Pinnacle was never repaid its initial investment, and that $18.8 million was owed to residents who moved out and demanded refunds on their entrance fees.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 05, 2011, 04:17:09 PM
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011/12/05/2298549/jerry-sanduskys-attorney-says.html
Jerry Sandusky's attorney says interview was chance to meet client
December 5, 2011

Jerry Sandusky’s attorney said Saturday his client’s interview with The New York Times was a way to offer Sandusky’s side to “as many people as possible” and familiarize the public with his client’s inarticulate manner of speaking.

The interview came at the request of the newspaper, said the attorney, Joe Amendola. It was published less than two weeks before Sandusky’s preliminary hearing Dec. 13 on 40 counts of child sex abuse in which Amendola said he can’t offer evidence to refute the charges.


A local attorney who is part of a team representing one of the alleged victims on Saturday criticized Sandusky’s decision to give the interview.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 05, 2011, 04:19:33 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/penn_state_could_pay_millions.html
Penn State could pay millions in lawyer, PR fees from Jerry Sandusky scandal
December 5, 2011

After former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was arrested on child sexual abuse charges, Penn State University hired two public relations firms and two law firms to its payroll, the Centre Daily Times newspaper reports.

The school hasn’t released information about how much it could end up paying or if any agreements are in place -- as a state-related school Penn State sees itself in a murky area of public records law -- but the Centre Daily Times believes the lawyers’ fees could run into millions of dollars.

At least two lawmakers are drafting legislation to put Penn State, Temple University, the University of Pittsburgh and Lincoln University in the same category as most other public agencies for right-to-know purposes, including the 14 state-owned colleges. Under their revisions, most records pertaining to any transaction or activity by the university would be available to the public. Under current law, Penn State is under no obligation to release documents — if they even exist — concerning a 2002 decision by university administrators to bar Sandusky from bringing children onto campus.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 05, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-57336544/sandusky-says-work-has-been-twisted-reporter/
Sandusky says work has been "twisted": reporter
December 5, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 05, 2011, 07:41:16 PM
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/05/9229405-sanduskys-dinner-with-alleged-victims-raises-new-legal-questions
Sandusky's dinner with alleged victims raises new legal questions
By Lisa RiordanSeville and Hannah Rappleye
NBC News
December 5, 2011

A lawyer for one of the alleged victims of Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State football coach who now faces 40 counts of child sex abuse, says Sandusky's long New York Times interview raises new questions about whether he may have attempted to influence witnesses just before he got indicted. NBC's Michael Isikoff reports.

While under investigation by a criminal grand jury for allegedly sexually abusing young boys, Jerry Sandusky said he spoke to and even dined with men now identified as his victims. The 67-year-old former Penn State assistant coach accused of sexually abusing young boys for more than a decade holds up these encounters as proof of his innocence, but a lawyer for at least one of the victims believes they could be criminal.

“One of the questions that raised in my mind, ‘Was this an effort on his part to tamper with witnesses?’” said Howard Janet, a Baltimore attorney representing the man known in the grand jury report of Sandusky as Victim 6. “Was it intended as a way to influence the public or the perspective jury pool?”
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Interviews with lawyers and the grand jury report show that in the months that followed, Sandusky made several attempts to contact boys who had participated in the charity he founded -- the Second Mile – and who later testified before the grand jury, prompting Janet to question whether Sandusky tried to sway the outcome of the investigation.

Witness tampering in the state of Pennsylvania is defined as any act with the intent to intimidate a witness or victim to “refrain from reporting a crime, withhold or give false or misleading information, or to ignore or evade requests for information or a summons.”

Under state penal codes, witness tampering is considered equal to the most serious offense a defendant is charged with. Among the charges against Sandusky are multiple first-degree felonies, which carry maximum sentences of up to 20 years in prison.

Sandusky has not been charged with tampering or intimidation of witnesses.
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Sandusky confirmed to the The New York Times that he had contacted at least one of his accusers but did so believing he would serve as a character witness. He said he did not know the prosecution had listed the individual as a victim. 
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More...
Video at link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 05, 2011, 08:27:57 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/penn-state-scandal-victims-testify-jerry-sandusky/story?id=15085783
All Eight of Jerry Sandusky's Alleged Victims Will Testify Against Him
By Colleen Curry
December 5, 2011

All eight of the boys allegedly sexually abused by former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky will testify against him when preliminary hearings in the case begin next week, according to people close to the case.

News that all eight victims will testify against Sandusky is a blow to his defense. Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, previously told ABC News that at least one of the boys had denied that he was abused.

Sandusky is accused of molesting eight boys over a 15-year period. A key allegation against the 67-year-old former coach was that he was seen raping a boy about the age of 10 in the showers in 2002.

The grand jury report said the identity of the boy, called Victim 2, was not known, but Amendola told ABC News that he believed the defense knew who the boy was and talked to him.

"The kid is ... now grown up, he's in his 20s. He's adamant that nothing sexual occurred," Amendola said last month.

The lawyer said that, at the time of the accusation, Sandusky provided the boys name to Penn State after he was confronted with accusation.

Amendola said he expected others might also come forward in Sandusky's defense.

 Sources told ABC News, however, that all eight boys in the grand jury presentment intend to take the stand against Sandusky when the hearing begins Dec. 13. The hearing in Centre County, Pa., is expected to last several days.
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Sandusky also told The Times he was a surrogate father to the boys he developed relationships with through his Second Mile charity for at-risk youth. He said he was just roughhousing with the kids, and he described a closeness that many find hard to justify or understand.

"The environment was family-like," Sandusky said. "All the times were precious times, they were significant times."

Attorney Michael Boni, who represents the now-teenage boy known as Victim Number 1 -- who was the first to come forward to accuse Sandusky -- said that the times with the former coach were horrifying for the victims of his alleged crimes.

"These were, quote, 'precious' moments for him," Boni said. "In fact, they were the most vile, horrendous, unspeakable moments for his victims."

Dr. Michael Welner, an ABC News consultant and a forensic psychiatrist, said he finds the evidence against Sandusky compelling.

"They had a discussion in this interview about barriers," said Welner. "There are no barriers. Sexual assault is a process; it's the end point of a process of grooming. It didn't just happen, he orchestrated it, and yet to see that interview, you would think that it just happened, and it's up to you as a jury or audience to see whether it's illegal or not."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 05, 2011, 11:14:02 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/111124023037-ac-carroll-new-sandusky-allegations-00015514-story-top.jpg
Alleged victims' lawyer says Sandusky 'can't answer a simple question'
December 5, 2011

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/111124023037-ac-carroll-new-sandusky-allegations-00015514-story-top.jpg)
Former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky's few media interviews have done little to help his cause.

(CNN) -- An attorney who represents alleged victims of Jerry Sandusky blasted the former Penn State assistant football coach on Monday in the wake of a recent interview Sandusky gave to the New York Times.

Ben Andreozzi, an attorney for three of Sandusky's alleged victims, told HLN's Dr. Drew Pinsky that he advises his clients not to worry about what the media is reporting but some of them -- inevitably -- read and hear about what Sandusky says.

The New York Times published an extensive interview over the weekend in which Sandusky attempted to clarify his relationships with young people.

"Some of them have seen Mr. Sandusky's interviews and I think they're appalled. They're appalled by the fact that he can't answer a simple question," said Andreozzi, who represents the person identified as Victim 4 in the grand jury report that led to Sandusky's indictment, and two other alleged victims not included in the report.

Andreozzi did not elaborate on whether he was referring to a specific question or was speaking in more general terms.
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In response to why Sandusky's lawyer would have allowed him to talk to the New York Times, Andreozzi speculated the move was the equivalent of a "Hail Mary" pass.

"I think the evidence against Mr. Sandusky is so damning right now that they feel they have no other choice," he told Pinsky.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 06, 2011, 06:40:21 PM
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Joe-Paterno-JoePa-Oxford-Mural-Penn-State-135108488.html
Oxford Considers Removing Paterno Tribute from School
A mural painted 19 years ago may be taken down in the wake of the Penn State scandal.
December 6, 2011





Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 06, 2011, 06:43:53 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcook/2011/12/06/middle-school-considers-removing-gigantic-joe-paterno-image-from-gym/
Middle School Considers Removing Gigantic Joe Paterno Image From Gym
Bob Cook, Contributor
December 6, 2011




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 06, 2011, 06:46:12 PM
http://gantdaily.com/2011/12/06/report-paterno-had-business-deal-with-second-mile-charity-board-members/
Report: Paterno had business deal with Second Mile charity board members
John Nestor – AHN Sports Correspondent
December 6, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 06, 2011, 07:58:33 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/faced-with-several-probes-penn-st-unlikely-to-give-full-answers-for-ncaa-inquiry-by-deadline/2011/12/06/gIQAhsIkaO_story.html
Faced with several probes, Penn St. unlikely to give full answers for NCAA inquiry by deadline
December 6, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Penn State likely won’t provide the NCAA all the answers it wants by a Dec. 16 deadline for its inquiry into whether the school broke rules with its handling of the scandal that cost Joe Paterno his job.

School president Rodney Erickson said Tuesday the university would respond to the NCAA as a “work in progress.” A school spokeswoman cited the volume of investigations under way as a potential factor.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 06, 2011, 07:59:39 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16351617/psu-president-on-sandusky-investigation-there-will-be-no-whitewash
PSU president on Sandusky investigation: 'There will be no whitewash'
December 6, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 06, 2011, 08:05:14 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16348506/report-all-eight-sandusky-accusers-will-testify-at-preliminary-hearing
New Sandusky accuser steps forward, files complaint with police
December 6, 2011

PHILADELPHIA -- A 19-year-old man has filed a complaint with state police alleging he was sexually abused by Jerry Sandusky after the former coach gave him liquor on the Penn State campus in 2004, the accuser's lawyer said Tuesday.

Charles Schmidt said the client, whom he did not identify, came to his law firm about three weeks ago, after Sandusky was charged with sexually abusing eight children over a 15-year period.

"He suffered one incident of abuse, to use the legal term -- involuntary deviate sexual intercourse -- allegedly at the hands of Mr. Sandusky," Schmidt said. "That occurred on the Penn State campus, we believe in the area of the football facilities."

Joseph Amendola, Sandusky's lawyer, said he was not familiar with the allegations Schmidt was making.

The new claim came the same day a lawyer for a different young man who accused Sandusky of sexual abuse said he expects his client and at least five other alleged victims to testify at a preliminary hearing next week.
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The existence of Schmidt's client was first reported by WHP-TV in Harrisburg.

Schmidt told the Associated Press that his client was 12-years old, dealing with the death of his mother and suffering emotional issues at the time of the single, alleged incident on the campus. The lawyer said the two met through The Second Mile and his client claims Sandusky gave him liquor while in the office on campus. The grand jury report did not allege any instances of Sandusky giving boys alcohol.

Schmidt said his law firm is conducting its own investigation into the client's claims.

"We hope to have it wrapped up within another week. We believe him to be credible," Schmidt said. "Everything that we've been able to unearth since has corroborated what he told us, but we'll continue to do our due diligence."

The preliminary hearing next Tuesday, at which a judge would determine if prosecutors have enough evidence to take the case to trial, could last a day or more since the defense has the right to cross-examine the state's witnesses.
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Former sex-crimes prosecutor Richard DeSipio said prosecutors may have to call the six known accusers for the judge to uphold the 40 counts. Defense lawyers sometimes waive preliminary hearings if they are worried about publicity for their clients, but DeSipio said he is not surprised Amendola is demanding the hearing.

"This is their first and only opportunity before trial to actually see the witnesses... to hear their tone and demeanor, and to question them and see how they respond to questions, and also to flush out details," said DeSipio, who is now a criminal defense lawyer in Philadelphia.

Assistant football coach Mike McQueary, who has been identified as the witness to the 2002 shower assault, could also be called to testify. McQueary's account wasn't immediately brought to the attention of authorities even though high-level people at Penn State apparently were told about an incident the showers.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 06, 2011, 09:09:31 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/sandusky-lawyer-ready-question-alleged-victims-15093853
Lawyer: Another Sandusky Accuser Steps Forward
By GENARO C. ARMAS and MARYCLAIRE DALE Associated Press
December 6, 2011

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Trustees have appointed former FBI director Louis Freeh to lead the probe for a committee spearheaded by trustee Kenneth Frazier.

Erickson said he would urge trustees to have the committee members meet with faculty.

Since taking over for Spanier, Erickson has vowed to make Penn State a leader in raising awareness of issues related to child abuse following the scandal that has tarnished the school's image. The effort includes using football bowl revenue that typically goes back to the athletic department to causes related to such issues.

The total revenue, Erickson said Tuesday, will reach at least $2 million, $500,000 more than the amount the school promised last week would be donated for programs at the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape and the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.

The additional revenue will now go toward helping to establish a Penn State institute that would work in the treatment and prevention, as well as research into, child abuse. The first piece to the institute would be a Center for the Protection of Children to be based at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center, Erickson said.


"We're taking both steps to (create) change immediately as well as a longer-term goal in which our faculty can be very much involved," Erickson said.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on December 07, 2011, 02:08:28 PM
Breaking News:

Sandusky in cuffs; victims #9 and #10. 

Looking for more information.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Slogger on December 07, 2011, 02:10:06 PM
Story at Centre Daily Times:

http://www.centredaily.com/2011/12/07/3012244/sandusky-faces-new-charges-in.html (http://www.centredaily.com/2011/12/07/3012244/sandusky-faces-new-charges-in.html)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 07, 2011, 02:32:02 PM
hartfordcourant Hartford Courant
RT @CNNNEDesk: CNN has confirmed ex #PennState coach Jerry Sandusky arrested today on additional charges
43 minutes ago http://twitter.com/#!/hartfordcourant (http://twitter.com/#!/hartfordcourant)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 07, 2011, 02:44:56 PM
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/12/07/nbc-news-jerry-sandusky-taken-from-home-in-handcuffs-arrested-on-new-sex-abuse-charges/
1:51 pm ET December 7, 2011
NBC News: Jerry Sandusky Taken From Home in Handcuffs, Arrested on New Sex Abuse Charges
by America Live Posted in: Child Sex Abuse Allegations, Jerry Sandusky, Penn State   



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on December 07, 2011, 02:45:45 PM
  Jerry Sandusky Taken Out of Home in Handcuffs 
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Jerry-Sandusky-Taken-Out-of-Home-in-Handcuffs-135184658.html?dr


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on December 07, 2011, 02:49:19 PM
Alleged Jerry Sandusky victim says his cries for help from the Sandusky basement went unanswered
 

"The man identified as Victim 9 in the Jerry Sandusky grand jury presentment released this afternoon testified that Sandusky's wife did not respond to his scream for help from the basement of their State College home."
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/victim_9_says_his_cried_for_he.html



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on December 07, 2011, 02:51:05 PM
Jerry Sandusky's bail set at $250,000 after 2 new alleged victims come forward
 

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/jerry_sandusky_charged_with_as.html


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: alagary on December 07, 2011, 02:58:17 PM
The local site up there that I find a lot of the latest info on is starting to put enough detail in the articles that I am uncomfortable linking them.
I need a Mods opinion about PennLives giving too much information please.

Alagary, I've conveyed your concerns to Klaasend, so let's see what she thinks.  I appreciate your consideration when it comes to posting something possibly not suitable on our open forum.  MuffyBee


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 06:23:28 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/07/jerry-sandusky-mug-shot/
Jerry Sandusky Mug Shot Released
December 7, 2011


(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/12/07/1207-sandusky-mug-bn-2.jpg)
Booking Photo



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 06:26:02 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/experts_sanduskys_defense_will.html
Experts: Jerry Sandusky's defense will question credibility of new alleged victims
December 7, 2011

The men a grand jury identifies as Victim 9 and Victim 10 both went to police with allegations of sexual abuse by Jerry Sandusky after the Penn State legend had been charged.
That, said criminal defense experts, is where Sandusky’s attorney Joe Amendola will likely fight the new charges filed Wednesday by the Pennsylvania Attorney General. Since several of the other alleged victims are discussing civil suits — and one has already been filed — the experts said Amendola will likely portray Victim 9 and Victim 10 as out for cash.

“If I represent Sandusky, that’s going to be part of my cross-examination on these two allegations,” Costopoulos said, “particularly if they’ve hooked up with civil lawyers.”

But that won’t be an issue at Sandusky’s preliminary hearing Tuesday.

In Pennsylvania, witness credibility is not an issue at preliminary hearings, said Chris Mallios, a staff attorney at Aequitas, a prosecutors’ resource center for violence against women.

Still, Mallios said, Sandusky’s attorney will want to get as much of the alleged victims testimony on the record as the judge will allow, in hopes of using it against the witnesses at trial. That’s where the harsh interrogation will come.

“That type of attack on credibility is a no-brainer,” Mallios said. “When you have a defendant who’s prestigious or wealthy, you always say (the victim) wants money.

“(But) the truth is the truth, and the truth will come out. When victims talk about their experiences, details that only they could have known ... the truth comes out at trial.”
 ::snipping2::
Video at Link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: klaasend on December 07, 2011, 06:41:30 PM
The local site up there that I find a lot of the latest info on is starting to put enough detail in the articles that I am uncomfortable linking them.
I need a Mods opinion about PennLives giving too much information please.

Alagary, I've conveyed your concerns to Klaasend, so let's see what she thinks.  I appreciate your consideration when it comes to posting something possibly not suitable on our open forum.  MuffyBee

Alagary - The links to normal (non R rated) websites like PennLive or other similar websites are fine.  Sadly, this crime will entail details we don't like to read but the facts are the face.  Links back are fine.  (klaasend)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 06:51:29 PM


http://abcnews.go.com/US/jerry-sandusky-arrested-sex-abuse-charges/story?id=15104944
Jerry Sandusky Arrested on New Sex Abuse Charges
By Colleen Curry
December 7, 2011

Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was arrested and jailed today in the wake of new sexual assault charges filed against him by a grand jury.

Sandusky was handcuffed and taken out of his home by state police and brought to an arraignment before a judge in Centre County, Pa., for the new charges, which include assaulting two boys involved in his Second Mile charity.

Sandusky was taken to Centre County Correctional Facility for processing and will remain there until bail is posted. His attorney, Joe Amendola, said he is getting paperwork together to try and post bail by Thursday morning. Bail was set at $250,000, cash, although the prosecutor had asked for $1 million. If bail is posted, Sandusky is not permitted to step onto Penn State property and will be monitored electronically.

Amendola told ABC News that he had no knowledge of the charges ahead of the arrest.

"I'm very disappointed that I didn't even get a courtesy call that new charges had been filed. I had to find out from the media," Amendola said.

Sandusky, wearing Penn State pants at the time of his arrest, requested that the arraignment not begin until Amendola arrived at the courthouse, according to ABC affiliate WPVI.

Amendola greeted Sandusky in the courtroom by saying, "Told you. We had this discussion. Some day you will listen to me," to which Sandusky smiled, according to WPVI.
In court, Amendola asked for lower bail, arguing that his client was not a flight risk, and that he'd been subjected to heavy media coverage and confined to his home.

The new alleged victims came forward in the wake of the earlier allegations against Sandusky, including 40 counts of child molestation, for which he was charged on Nov. 5.

According to the state attorney general, both men met Sandusky through the Second Mile charity, were plied with trips to football games, and were abused by him in Sandusky's home.
 ::snipping2::
The new charges include involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, unlawful contact with a minor, indecent assault, endangering the welfare of children, and corruption of minors.

The new charges will be included in an already-scheduled preliminary hearing on Tuesday.

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Remember this from the original 100,000.00 unsecured bond in the ruling by the original judge? 

"The ruling placed no restrictions on his travel. Sandusky's lawyer, Joe Amendola, advised Sandusky and his wife to take a trip ahead of the next legal proceeding to clear his head, he told CNN."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/16/us-usa-crime-coach-campus-idUSTRE7AF1WZ20111116

Maybe the attorney Joe Amendola and Jerry Sandusky are an attorney/client match made in heaven.  Both have enormous egos!!  JMHO 





Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 06:58:26 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/08/sports/ncaafootball/sandusky-arrested-on-new-sexual-abuse-charges.html
Sandusky Arrested on New Sexual Abuse Charges
December 7, 2011

Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State assistant football coach who was charged last month with 40 counts of sexual abuse against eight boys, was arrested Wednesday on new sexual abuse charges after grand jury testimony by two additional accusers, the authorities said.
 ::snipping2::
Mr. Sandusky was charged with four counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and two counts of unlawful contact with a minor, all first-degree felonies punishable by up to 20 years in prison and $25,000 in fines. He was also charged with three third-degree felonies and three first-degree misdemeanors.

Mr. Sandusky’s lawyer, Joseph Amendola, did not immediately return a telephone message Wednesday. Mr. Sandusky has maintained his innocence on the earlier charges.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/9303787-418/jerry-sandusky-jailed-after-failing-to-make-bail.html
Jerry Sandusky jailed after failing to make bail
By MARYCLAIRE DALE and GENARO C. ARMAS
December 7, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Jerry Sandusky has been taken to a Pennsylvania county jail after being unable to post $250,000 bail in cash.

The former Penn State assistant coach was jailed Wednesday after a brief court hearing.

Sandusky faces new charges based on the testimony of two new accusers, including one who claims Sandusky molested him numerous times in a basement bedroom at Sandusky’s home. He already faced 40 counts of child sex abuse involving eight young boys over a 15-year span.
 ::snipping2::
Senior Magisterial District Judge Robert E. Scott said if Sandusky does make bail, he will be under house arrest and subject to electronic monitoring.

Prosecutors had sought $1 million in bail.

The charges were brought after new accusers were questioned by a grand jury following Sandusky’s arrest last month. One alleged victim claims he was assaulted after meeting Sandusky in 1997 and the other claims he was assaulted in 2004.
 ::snipping2::
Sandusky was already charged with 40 counts of child sex abuse involving eight young boys over a 15-year span.
 ::snipping2::
The new charges include four counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and two counts of unlawful contact with a minor, all of them first-degree felonies punishable by up to 20 years in prison and $25,000 in fines.

Sandusky also was charged with a count of indecent assault and two counts of endangering the welfare of children. Those are third-degree felonies punishable by up to seven years in prison and $15,000 in fines.

Like some of the other victims, the two new ones, dubbed Victims 9 and 10 by prosecutors, allegedly met Sandusky through The Second Mile charity, which he founded in 1977.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 07:04:04 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/07/charity-linked-to-penn-st-scandal-reveals-layoffs/
Charity linked to Penn St. scandal reveals layoffs
December 7, 2011

 ::snipping2::
For more than 20 years, the charity received accolades and widespread community support for its programs designed to help troubled youths. It grew from a volunteer organization to one with more than $3 million in revenue in 2009, and it reported helping thousands of children.

The charity said in a statement Wednesday that it has recently lost significant financial support and that some employees will be laid off over the next several months. It didn't say how many staffers would be cut. It has three offices in Pennsylvania, with headquarters in State College, where Penn State is based.
 ::snipping2::
The charity's revenue, primarily from donations and fundraisers such as golf tournaments, declined to about $2.7 million in 2010, and Sandusky, who played a major role in fundraising, resigned later that year.

Last month, The Second Mile said it was looking at three options in the wake of the sex abuse scandal: continuing programs at a reduced level, transferring programs to other organizations or closing.

But attorneys representing people who accuse Sandusky of abusing them then said they planned to sue the charity and sought an injunction to stop it from dissolving or transferring its assets. The attorneys and the charity agreed to a settlement last week, but full details weren't disclosed.

The Second Mile said in Wednesday's statement that it is saddened by the need to make the cuts and that it will try to preserve key programs. Previously scheduled programs will continue as planned.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Buckeye on December 07, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
Posted: Wed, Dec. 7, 2011, 12:26 PM
School: Sandusky denied job after background check

MARYCLAIRE DALE and GENARO C. ARMAS

The Associated Press



PHILADELPHIA - A year and a half after an investigation began into Jerry Sandusky's contact with young boys, the former Penn State assistant football coach applied for a volunteer coaching job at a central Pennsylvania college but was denied the job after a background check.

Officials at Juniata College said Wednesday that Sandusky applied for the volunteer football coaching job in May 2010 and rejected the following month after a background check showed a high school where Sandusky previously volunteered was investigating him.

Juniata spokesman John Wall said the college was not informed of the details of the investigation or the existence of a grand jury, but based on the report informed its coaches Sandusky was not to have contact with the program.

"We basically did our due-diligence," Wall said.

According to Wall, Sandusky continued to attend games after he was rejected for the job and at one point sat in the press box for an away game.

Wall said he wasn't sure what led Sandusky to be in the press box, but said the school's former athletic director then reiterated to its coaches that Sandusky was to have no connection with the team.


 ::snipping2::

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/pennsylvania/135166173.html?cmpid=15585797


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 08:45:14 PM

http://twitter.com/#!/PeterAlexander (http://twitter.com/#!/PeterAlexander)

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#BREAKING #Sandusky atty: "We are working on posting bail... & we anticipate having Jerry released sometime tomorrow."
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Per Victim 9 (cont'd): "... knowing that #Sandusky's wife was upstairs, but no one ever came to help him. (2) #PennState
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#BREAKING #Sandusky's bail set at $250K after new abuse charges by two new accusers. #PennState
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#BREAKING: #Sandusky lawyer: "We've always offered to turn him in if there were new charges." (3) #PennState
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#BREAKING: "... unannounced w/o so much as giving me a courtesy phone call as his attorney..." (2) #PennState
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#BREAKING #Sandusky's atty reax: "I'm very disappointed by the latest tactics of AG's Ofc by going to Jerry's house.." (1)
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#BREAKING #Sandusky, wearing #PennState track suit, today re-arrested for 12 add'l charges of child sexual abuse.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 08:55:19 PM
Posted: Wed, Dec. 7, 2011, 12:26 PM
School: Sandusky denied job after background check

MARYCLAIRE DALE and GENARO C. ARMAS

The Associated Press



PHILADELPHIA - A year and a half after an investigation began into Jerry Sandusky's contact with young boys, the former Penn State assistant football coach applied for a volunteer coaching job at a central Pennsylvania college but was denied the job after a background check.

Officials at Juniata College said Wednesday that Sandusky applied for the volunteer football coaching job in May 2010 and rejected the following month after a background check showed a high school where Sandusky previously volunteered was investigating him.

Juniata spokesman John Wall said the college was not informed of the details of the investigation or the existence of a grand jury, but based on the report informed its coaches Sandusky was not to have contact with the program.

"We basically did our due-diligence," Wall said.

According to Wall, Sandusky continued to attend games after he was rejected for the job and at one point sat in the press box for an away game.

Wall said he wasn't sure what led Sandusky to be in the press box, but said the school's former athletic director then reiterated to its coaches that Sandusky was to have no connection with the team.


 ::snipping2::

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/pennsylvania/135166173.html?cmpid=15585797


BBM
This is very interesting imo.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 08:58:26 PM

I think the $250,000 cash bail amount is really low, considering the charges against him.  The prosecution had asked for $1 million.  I'm looking at Louis "Skip" ReVille's bond of $1 million dollars for the 14 charges he's being held on.  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12372.msg1488942#msg1488942  Jerry Sandusky was initially charged with 40 counts against 8 victims and had a 100,000.00 unsecured bond.  Now there are two more victims and the charges are:


http://www.suntimes.com/sports/9303787-418/jerry-sandusky-jailed-after-failing-to-make-bail.html
<snip>
"The new charges include four counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and two counts of unlawful contact with a minor, all of them first-degree felonies punishable by up to 20 years in prison and $25,000 in fines.
Sandusky also was charged with a count of indecent assault and two counts of endangering the welfare of children. Those are third-degree felonies punishable by up to seven years in prison and $15,000 in fines."
<snip>

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/brennan/story/2011-12-06/brennan/51718438/1
Questions arise again in the handling of Sandusky
By Christine Brennan
December 7, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 09:31:33 PM
BBM - Joe Amendola's arrogance almost chokes me.  It reminds me so much of Jose Baez.  (gag!)  Why should Jerry Sandusky continue to get kid glove treatment?  The first round, there were 8 victims with 40 counts and a $100,000 non-secured bond, with no travel restrictions etc.  and he left the house in a suit and tie.  This time, (surprise!) he got taken from his home  in a PSU sweat suit and  hand cuffs.  There are two more victims, charged with another 9 counts and a $250,000 cash bond that he couldn't pay so he's sitting in jail.  Why should he or his attorney be notified so he can turn himself in?  Why shouldn't he wear hand cuffs like most of the rest of us would be?  What makes Jerry Sandusky so special?  Just askin'....

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/UPDATE-3-Sandusky-arrested-as-new-charges-are/AjUVMDYRRk6krmpHYCdy8g.cspx
UPDATE(3): Sandusky arrested as new charges are filed, terms of bail set
December 7, 2011

He was taken away in handcuffs from his home and now former Penn State Assistant Coach Jerry Sandusky has been arrested for sexually assaulting more young boys.

Sandusky is currently in jail, unable to post bail. We are told that Jerry Sandusky is sitting in a jail cell in the Centre County Correctional Facility.

In a hearing Wednesday, prosecutors asked for a bail on $1 million based on these new charges. The judge set it at $250,000 and Sandusky couldn't pay it.

“It's real simple. They wanted this sort of show.” ‘You're saying they wanted a media circus?’ “Oh, I think so. This is going to be all over the country again and we are talking about a fair trial and we are going to see Jerry Sandusky in handcuffs. On new charges, when Jerry Sandusky would have turned himself in and we could have done this is a very civil way.”

That was Jerry Sandusky's attorney, Joseph Amendola, responding to the most recent charges against his client, who says he's still innocence.

In a second report from a Grand Jury, two more alleged victims have come forward claiming that Sandusky sexually abused them. The total is now 10.

They were encouraged to come forward following Sandusky's first arrest. Their stories are nearly identical to the first eight.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 07, 2011, 09:42:20 PM
Media circus????  Then they need to keep Sandusky off the tv.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 07, 2011, 10:05:59 PM
Media circus????  Then they need to keep Sandusky off the tv.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 05:18:08 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11342/1195429-454.stm
More counts filed against Sandusky
Ex-Penn State assistant coach held in jail in sex abuse case

By Jon Schmitz and Ron Musselman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
December 8, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Mr. Sandusky now faces 52 criminal counts of abuse. Dressed in a Penn State sweat suit and looking haggard, he was arraigned Wednesday on the new charges by Senior District Judge Robert E. Scott, who ordered him held on $250,000 straight cash bond. He was being held in the Centre County Correctional Facility, said Nils Frederiksen, spokesman for Ms. Kelly. Judge Scott of Westmoreland County has been assigned to preside over the preliminary hearing.

If Mr. Sandusky is able to post bond and get out of jail, he will be subject to house arrest with electronic monitoring. Judge Scott also ordered him to have no contact with victims or witnesses and no unsupervised contact with minors.

Mr. Sandusky did not speak during the arraignment, but after being charged, he leaned over to his attorney, Joseph Amendola, and said, "Are we going to talk about this?"

Prosecutors had sought to have Mr. Sandusky's bond set at $1 million, but Mr. Amendola argued for a lower amount. He said Mr. Sandusky was not a flight risk and said he was subjected to heavy media coverage and confined to his home.
 ::snipping2::
Mr. Sandusky was charged with four counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and two counts of unlawful contact with a minor, first-degree felonies that each are punishable by up to 20 years in prison and $25,000 fines; one count of indecent assault and two counts of endangering the welfare of children, third-degree felonies each punishable by up to seven years in prison and $15,000 fines; and one count of indecent assault and two counts of corruption of minors, first-degree misdemeanors each punishable by up to five years in prison and $10,000 fines.

He was arrested by agents from the attorney general's office and Pennsylvania State Police at his home and led away in handcuffs.

He faces a preliminary hearing Tuesday in Centre County Common Pleas Court. Mr. Amendola said he did not expect a delay in next week's hearing as a result of the new charges.

"We always anticipated this," Mr. Amendola said. "It's disappointing. I doubt very much whether they will grant a continuance for us."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 11:32:02 AM
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Warden-Standard-procedures-for-Sandusky-in-jail-2378816.php
Warden: Standard procedures for Sandusky in jail
GENARO C. ARMAS, Associated Press
December 8, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) — The warden of the Pennsylvania jail holding Jerry Sandusky on additional child sex-abuse charges says the facility is following standard procedure with the former Penn State assistant football coach.

Centre County Correctional Facility Warden Edward DeSabato says Sandusky is still in custody Thursday morning.
 ::snipping2::
DeSabato says Sandusky currently has his own cell in an area of the facility where new prisoners are evaluated for 48 to 72 hours. He says officials typically take the time to determine the level of security needed for new prisoners.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 11:40:44 AM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/penn_state/Jerry_Sandusky_Posting_250000_Bail_120811
Sandusky Posts Bail, Will Be Released Today
Judge Had Already Ordered Electronic Monitoring

December 8, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 11:43:05 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-12-07/jerry-sandusky-grand-jury-report-penn-state/51710718/1
New grand jury report details allegations vs. Jerry Sandusky
December 7, 2011

Second Pa. grand jury report details new allegations vs. Jerry Sandusky

(Can be read at link- 5 pgs)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 11:47:05 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/sandusky-jailed-child-sex-abuse-charges-15110412
Sandusky Posts Bail in Latest Sex Abuse Charges
December 8, 2011

Former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky posted bail Thursday after spending a night in jail following a new round of sex-abuse charges filed against him.

Sandusky secured his release using $200,000 in real estate holdings and a $50,000 certified check provided by his wife, Dorothy, according to online court records. Sandusky remained at the facility as of midmorning and the warden said he was quiet and cooperative during his overnight stay.

Sandusky was arrested Wednesday and charged with 12 new sex abuse counts involving two new alleged victims. He has maintained his innocence.
 ::snipping2::
Sandusky was charged last month with abusing eight boys, some on campus, over 15 years, allegations that were not immediately brought to the attention of authorities even though high-level people at Penn State apparently knew about them. In all, he faces more than 50 charges.
 ::snipping2::
Videos at link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 12:16:22 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/second_mile_exec_who_expressed.html
Second Mile exec who expressed concerns about Jerry Sandusky is leaving company
By SARA GANIM, The Patriot-News
December 8, 2011

Katherine Genovese, the second-highest paid Second Mile employee and the wife of ex-CEO Jack Raykovitz, will be leaving the children's charity started by accused child molester Jerry Sandusky, according to a source with the organization.
 ::snipping2::
Genovese, an executive with the organization, told a person in authority in 2008 that the charity had concerns about Sandusky and certain boys. She has been with The Second Mile since it started in 1977 and is leaving in January, the source said.
Raykovitz resigned last month. In 2010, Raykovitz made $132,923, and Genovese made $100,580.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 08, 2011, 12:21:52 PM
How is this guy being released????  I just don't understand it.  The folks in that county should protest.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 12:27:42 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/jerry-sandusky-scandal-brings-pain-of-childhood-abuse-to-the-surface/2011/12/08/gIQARXAOfO_story.html
Jerry Sandusky scandal brings pain of childhood abuse to the surface
By Tracee Hamilton
December 8, 2011

Video & slide show at link



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ap-source-paterno-taking-treatments-progressing-15109604#.TuDz0l
AP Source: Paterno Taking Treatments, Progressing
By BY GENARO C. ARMAS AP Sports Writer
December 8, 2011

A person close to Joe Paterno's family has told The Associated Press the former Penn State football coach is undergoing treatments and progressing after being diagnosed last month with lung cancer.

The person requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation. Paterno's son, Scott, last month requested privacy for the family after revealing that doctors discovered his father's treatable form of lung cancer during a follow-up visit for a bronchial illness.

School trustees fired Paterno on Nov. 9 in the aftermath of child sex abuse charges against retired defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky. Authorities have said Paterno is not a target of the investigation.

Paterno received the cancer diagnosis several days later. His family has said that doctors are optimistic he will make a full recovery.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 12:40:04 PM
It's only right this employee was fired imo.  They had absolutely no business going into Mr. Paterno's (or anyone else's) files without permission.  JMHO

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/hershey_medical_employee_fired.html
Hershey Medical Center employee fired after breach of Joe Paterno's records
December 7, 2011

A Penn State Hershey Medical Center employee has been fired for allegedly accessing Joe Paterno’s billing and registration records without permission, according to a source with direct knowledge of the breach.
It happened the day after the 84-year-old was fired from his longtime Penn State head football coaching job, but two days before his family says he was diagnosed with cancer.

The breach was caught because Paterno’s records were put under an audit to prevent leaks on Nov. 8. The unauthorized access happened Nov. 10.
Megan Manlove, the Hershey public affairs manager, said any unauthorized access of patient information -- access that isn’t for treatment, payment or operations -- is considered a HIPAA violation and is reported to the Department of Health and Human Services.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 12:42:30 PM
http://www.wtae.com/r/29948025/detail.html
Harris Reinstated As Pittsburgh Promise Chairman
Hall Of Fame Running Back Resigned Last Month After Pressure From Mayor

Posted December 7, 2011
Updated December 8, 2011

PITTSBURGH -- Hall of Fame running back Franco Harris has been reinstated as chairman of the Pittsburgh Promise .
Harris resigned as chairman last month -- but remained a board member -- after Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said he was "the wrong man to represent the Pittsburgh Promise and the ideals it embodies" due to his outspoken support for ousted Penn State football coach Joe Paterno.
(Statement in article at link)






Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 01:42:21 PM
I wonder if any more victims will come forward, and if so, does it mean Jerry goes back to jail? I believe if they do, all of the bail stuff has to be refigured.   It's just difficult for me to believe the first time he had a $100,000.00 unsecured bond, and the second time only $250,000.00, considering there are now 10 victims and 52 counts.  As I've said before, when I compare this what some others are facing, such as Louis "Skip" ReVille etc., Jerry is getting special treatment imo.  His bail should be more like $1 million dollars and etc.  JMHO

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/08/justice/penn-state-scandal/
Attorney: Sandusky posts bail following arrest
December 8, 2011

Videos at Link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 07:28:08 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/sanduskys-wife-defense-2011-12
Jerry Sandusky's Wife Defends Him, Says Accusers Are Making Up Their Stories
Leah Goldman
December 8, 2011

Jerry Sandusky's wife Dottie came out in defense of her husband today.

Dottie Sandusky said her husband is innocent of all of the child molestation charges and that he would never hurt a child, according to the AP.
Statement in article at above link.



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 07:30:43 PM
http://www.examiner.com/celebrity-infidelity-in-national/jerry-sandusky-sex-scandal-similar-to-the-sex-scandal-with-bishop-eddie-long
Jerry Sandusky sex scandal similar to the sex scandal with Bishop Eddie Long
Ruth Houston
December 8, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 07:32:26 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/pa-open-records-office-upholds-penn-state-refusal-to-release-records-of-1998-sandusky-inquiry/2011/12/08/gIQA3H1IgO_story.html
Pa. open-records office upholds Penn State refusal to release records of 1998 Sandusky inquiry
December 8, 2011

HARRISBURG, Pa. — Penn State University has won a round in its refusal to release records of a campus police investigation involving a former assistant football coach accused of molesting boys.

The state Office of Open Records ruled Thursday that Penn State doesn’t have to release any records of the 1998 inquiry involving Jerry Sandusky.

The agency ruled on a request filed by ESPN after the university had sought to withhold records. It says the university isn’t a state agency and thus is exempt from most provisions of the state Right-to-Know Law. It says the university is required to release only certain financial records.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 07:34:23 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7332356/penn-state-nittany-lions-scandal-big-ten-leaders-conduct-their-own-review
Big Ten to review Penn State scandal
By Brian Bennett
ESPN.com
Updated December 8, 2011

Big Ten leaders say they want to conduct their own review into the Penn State sex abuse scandal and that the conference could impose its own sanctions on the school if it doesn't like what it finds.

The league's Council of Presidents/Chancellors said Thursday that it wants Big Ten lawyers involved in any investigation into "matters of institutional control, ethical conduct and/or other compliance-related issues" at Penn State.
The council also wants to review the "fundamental issues and systems" at all its member schools and develop a "stress test" to make sure this type of situation doesn't occur again.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/12/big-ten-monitor-penn-state-ncaa/1
Big Ten may punish Penn State for actions in Sandusky scandal
By Eric Smith, USA TODAY
December 8, 2011

The Big Ten is monitoring the fallout from the sex abuse charges involving former Penn State assistant Jerry Sandusky and could sanction school for its behavior.
In a statement released Thursday, the conference said it was concerned about the actions of the school. Sandusky was accused of sexual abuse in 1998 and 2002 before his arrest last month.

Athletics director Tim Curley and senior vice president Gary Schultz have been charged with perjury and failure to report a crime. Football coach Joe Paterno and school president Graham Spanier were fired.

"While it is premature to reach any conclusions regarding civil or criminal liability arising out of these events, there does appear to be sufficient information to raise significant concerns as to whether a concentration of power in a single individual or program may have threatened or eroded institutional control of intercollegiate athletics at Penn State," the statement said.

The statement later added that the Big Ten will request Penn State and the NCAA to allow its counsel be involved in the investigation and reviews of the case.

When complete, the Big Ten could then take action against the school.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 07:44:06 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7330420/penn-state-nittany-lions-scandal-jerry-sandusky-posts-bail-latest-sex-abuse-charges
Jerry Sandusky posts $250K bail
December 8, 2011

BELLEFONTE, Pa. -- Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky emerged from an overnight jail stay Thursday after posting bail on new charges that he sexually abused two additional boys, including one who said Sandusky assaulted him in his basement while his cries for help went unheeded.
Sandusky was driven from a Pennsylvania county jail to his home in the back seat of a grey sedan in the middle of a three-car convoy. The former coach kept his gaze straight ahead, clutching a manila envelope, during the short car ride.

He then went inside without answering questions from reporters.

Sandusky was arrested Wednesday and charged with 12 new child sex abuse counts involving two new alleged victims. In all, he faces more than 50 charges. He has maintained his innocence.

Sandusky secured his release using $200,000 in real estate holdings and a $50,000 certified check provided by his wife, Dorothy, according to online court records. He will be subject to electronic monitoring under the terms of his release.

Warden Edward DeSabato said Sandusky was quiet and cooperative during his stay at the jail, where he was one of the roughly 250 being held. Sandusky had his own cell for the night, a standard procedure for new inmates, DeSabato said.
 ::snipping2::
Video at Link
(Also Grand Jury Findings • Nov. 5: Victims 1-8 (PDF) & Dec. 7:  Victims 9- 10 (PDF) on article page at above link)



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 08, 2011, 10:11:41 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/sanduskys-wife-defense-2011-12
Jerry Sandusky's Wife Defends Him, Says Accusers Are Making Up Their Stories
Leah Goldman
December 8, 2011

Jerry Sandusky's wife Dottie came out in defense of her husband today.

Dottie Sandusky said her husband is innocent of all of the child molestation charges and that he would never hurt a child, according to the AP.
Statement in article at above link.


OMG!   :gaah:  Does the woman have a brain????  Does she not see how this makes her look?  Frankly, I think she should face charges for not protecting those poor kids from her monster hubby.  How many times did she see him escort those poor boys down to the basement knowing something just wasnt right?  How many meals did she fix that he then took down to the basement.  I mean, the only other explanation is that SHE insisted the children be kept in the basement. hmmm...maybe she didn't want the 'underprivileged' soiling her nice home.   :scratch:


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2011, 10:43:51 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/sanduskys-wife-defense-2011-12
Jerry Sandusky's Wife Defends Him, Says Accusers Are Making Up Their Stories
Leah Goldman
December 8, 2011

Jerry Sandusky's wife Dottie came out in defense of her husband today.

Dottie Sandusky said her husband is innocent of all of the child molestation charges and that he would never hurt a child, according to the AP.
Statement in article at above link.


OMG!   :gaah:  Does the woman have a brain????  Does she not see how this makes her look?  Frankly, I think she should face charges for not protecting those poor kids from her monster hubby.  How many times did she see him escort those poor boys down to the basement knowing something just wasnt right?  How many meals did she fix that he then took down to the basement.  I mean, the only other explanation is that SHE insisted the children be kept in the basement. hmmm...maybe she didn't want the 'underprivileged' soiling her nice home.   :scratch:

But kittymom, Dottie says in her statement no one was fed in the basement.   :smt102

http://www.businessinsider.com/sanduskys-wife-defense-2011-12
 ::snipping2::
As the mother of six children, I have been devastated by these accusations. I am also angry about these false accusations that such a terrible incident ever occurred in my home. No child who ever visited our home was ever forced to stay in our basement and fed there. All the kids who visited us ate with us and our kids and other guests when they were at our home

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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 09, 2011, 01:32:23 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/sanduskys-wife-defense-2011-12
Jerry Sandusky's Wife Defends Him, Says Accusers Are Making Up Their Stories
Leah Goldman
December 8, 2011

Jerry Sandusky's wife Dottie came out in defense of her husband today.

Dottie Sandusky said her husband is innocent of all of the child molestation charges and that he would never hurt a child, according to the AP.
Statement in article at above link.


OMG!   :gaah:  Does the woman have a brain????  Does she not see how this makes her look?  Frankly, I think she should face charges for not protecting those poor kids from her monster hubby.  How many times did she see him escort those poor boys down to the basement knowing something just wasnt right?  How many meals did she fix that he then took down to the basement.  I mean, the only other explanation is that SHE insisted the children be kept in the basement. hmmm...maybe she didn't want the 'underprivileged' soiling her nice home.   :scratch:

But kittymom, Dottie says in her statement no one was fed in the basement.   :smt102

http://www.businessinsider.com/sanduskys-wife-defense-2011-12
 ::snipping2::
As the mother of six children, I have been devastated by these accusations. I am also angry about these false accusations that such a terrible incident ever occurred in my home. No child who ever visited our home was ever forced to stay in our basement and fed there. All the kids who visited us ate with us and our kids and other guests when they were at our home

 ::snipping2::




So, I guess this will turn into the Sandusky family saying one thing and ?? (I've lost count how many little boys) saying something else.  Bet Dottie says she never heard one of those little guys screaming for help either. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 11:54:05 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/09/accuser-raises-questions-about-sanduskys-wife/
Accuser raises questions about Sandusky's wife
December 9, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. –  Grand jury reports alleging child sex abuse by former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky are also raising questions about whether his wife knew about his alleged pattern of preying on boys — or how she couldn't have known.

One accuser told the grand jury that Dottie Sandusky was home when he screamed for help while her husband sexually assaulted him in a basement bedroom.

But Dottie Sandusky broke more than a month of silence Thursday, calling the accusations against her husband false and declaring that she continues to believe that he is innocent.

Lawyers not involved in the case say that evidence made public so far does not prove Dottie Sandusky did anything wrong — for instance, there's no proof she heard the alleged screams — although prosecutors almost certainly are interested in talking to her.

"Certainly if the activities are alleged to have occurred in the home, yeah, the prosecutors are going to figure, 'Jeez, you were in the house at the time this was going on? You must have known something,'" said Bruce Antkowiak, a former federal prosecutor in Pittsburgh and a law professor at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, Pa. "I would certainly think there would be interest in talking to her."

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It is rare that a family member testifies against another in court, Antkowiak and others say. And while many states protect spouses from having to testify against each other, that provision is not in force in Pennsylvania in cases of violence or sex abuse against children.

Prosecutors could ask a court to compel Dottie Sandusky to testify against her husband. But lawyers say that it's unlikely that they would do so, since she's unlikely to incriminate him, and in any case prosecutors may feel that they don't need her testimony to prove their case.

It is also possible, others say, that all of this may have played out in secret: She may already have asked for a grant of immunity or she may have already testified before the grand jury.

A spokesman for the state attorney general's office, which is prosecuting Sandusky, declined to comment.

Still, Dottie Sandusky almost certainly is facing lawsuits that lawyers say are likely to bankrupt her if she doesn't seek a divorce.

"Make no mistake, Dottie has a financial interest in this because once these criminal cases are decided, there will be civil suits by each and every victim, and those victims' suits will go after all the (Sanduskys') assets," said Susan Moss, a New York City-based family and divorce lawyer.
More...



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 11:57:11 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57340217-504083/jerry-sanduksys-wife-bails-him-out-of-jail-calls-new-sex-allegations-absolutely-untrue/
Jerry Sanduksy's wife bails him out of jail, calls new sex allegations "absolutely untrue"
December 9, 2011

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Dottie Sandusky, 68, has not been accused of any crimes, but in Pennsylvania - which allows spouses to testify against one another in cases of violence or sex abuse against children - she could be called to testify against her husband. Experts who spoke with the Associated Press said that prosecutors in this case would likely want to speak with her.

"Certainly if the activities are alleged to have occurred in the home, yeah, the prosecutors are going to figure, `Jeez, you were in the house at the time this was going on? You must have known something,"' said Bruce Antkowiak, a former federal prosecutor in Pittsburgh and a law professor at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, Pa. "I would certainly think there would be interest in talking to her."
 ::snipping2::
So far, one alleged victim has filed a lawsuit against Sandusky and legal experts told the AP that Dottie Sandusky couple face other lawsuits in the future. Lawyers say they are likely to bankrupt her if she doesn't seek a divorce.

"Make no mistake, Dottie has a financial interest in this because once these criminal cases are decided, there will be civil suits by each and every victim, and those victims' suits will go after all the (Sanduskys') assets," said Susan Moss, a New York City-based family and divorce lawyer.

Joseph T. Musson, a civil litigation lawyer who read Wednesday's grand jury report, told the AP that he saw nothing in the victim's statement that on its face would give rise to criminal or civil liability for Dottie Sandusky.

But, Musso said, "ordinary people will likely ask themselves, `How does she not know what's going on?"'


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 12:06:44 PM
http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/556106/Juniata--Reason-for-Sandusky-s-failed-background-check-unknown.html?nav=742
Juniata: Reason for Sandusky's failed background check unknown
December 9, 2011

HUNTINGDON - The reason former Penn State University assistant coach and accused child rapist Jerry Sandusky failed a background check at Juniata College last year when applying for a volunteer position was not known at the time, a college spokesman said Thursday.

The college's human resources department sent a letter dated June 3, 2010, to Sandusky's home after he applied for a non-paid volunteer coach position in May, Juniata spokesman John Wall said.

"This letter is to notify you that we are unable to make you an offer of volunteer employment based on our hiring criteria. Justifacts Credential Verification Inc. ran a background check and discovered that Central Mountain High School, where you worked as a Volunteer Football Coach, is undergoing an investigation that prevents you from being eligible to work for their school. You failed to include this information on the background verification form that you filled out at the time of your interview," according to an excerpt of the letter Wall provided to the Mirror.
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Former head football coach Carmen Felus approached the college about the position for Sandusky, Wall said. Attempts to contact Felus, who is now an assistant coach at the University of Tennessee at Martin, for comment were unsuccessful.

A formal offer was never made to Sandusky because of what the background check revealed, said former Athletic Director Larry Bock, who is the women's volleyball coach at the U.S. Naval Academy.

The college does in-depth checks on all new full and part-time employees, including students working at camps offered through the college, Wall said. Student workers in offices on campus do not, however. A background check is performed on a final candidate for a position before that person is offered the job.

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(Interesting comments)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 09, 2011, 01:27:01 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/940467-penn-state-scandal-virginias-offer-to-jerry-sandusky-shows-depth-of-cover-up
Penn State Scandal: Virginia's Offer to Jerry Sandusky Shows Depth of Cover-Up

Along with the University of Maryland, Sandusky was in talks with Marshall University and Temple University about becoming Head Coach at different points in his career.  So, I just have to wonder what do those in the football world suspected and when did they suspect it?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 01:31:20 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/940467-penn-state-scandal-virginias-offer-to-jerry-sandusky-shows-depth-of-cover-up
Penn State Scandal: Virginia's Offer to Jerry Sandusky Shows Depth of Cover-Up

Along with the University of Maryland, Sandusky was in talks with Marshall University and Temple University about becoming Head Coach at different points in his career.  So, I just have to wonder what do those in the football world suspected and when did they suspect it?

BBM, that's what a lot of us have been wondering, kittymom.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Snipped from article kittymom posted:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/940467-penn-state-scandal-virginias-offer-to-jerry-sandusky-shows-depth-of-cover-up
 ::snipping2::Whether UVA knew about any Sandusky's transgressions is still yet to be determined, though if it didn't, then such would point to either a poor background check done by the folks in Charlottesville or a determined cover-up by Sandusky's superiors in Happy Valley.

Regardless, these latest revelations only serve to deepen the rabbit hole of this sickening scandal that was brought to light just last week. Who or what else pops up—whether it be the University of Maryland, where Sandusky interviewed for the head coaching position in 1991, or Indianapolis Colts head coach Jim Caldwell and University of Miami boss Al Golden, both of whom were slated to join Sandusky's staff in Charlottesville—remains to be seen.

At this point, the only certainty is that the Sandusky scandal is more far-reaching than anyone yet knows, and it will only grow more tragic as new details emerge.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 01:34:25 PM
These tweets are almost a day old now, but I wanted to post them for reference. In one of the tweets, Peter notes Jerry isn't even allowed out to walk the dog.  I'm wondering if that has something to do with the proximity of the Sandusky's living so closely to an elementary school?  I still believe Jerry Sandusky's bail was light the first and the second time.  JMHO

http://twitter.com/#!/peteralexander (http://twitter.com/#!/peteralexander)

PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
#BREAKING #Sandusky wife: "Please be reasonable & open-minded until... Jerry has the opportunity to prove his innocence."
21 hours ago
Peter Alexander
PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
#Sandusky wife: "... & fed there." Later, "I continue to believe in Jerry’s innocence & all the good things he has done." (2)
21 hours ago
Peter Alexander
PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
#BREAKING #Sandusky wife, Dottie, breaks silence: "No child who ever visited our home was ever forced to stay in our basement..."
21 hours ago
Peter Alexander
PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
#Sandusky under house arrest w/ electronic monitor ensuring he doesn't leave. Not even allowed out to walk his dog.
21 hours ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 09, 2011, 01:48:12 PM
http://**/rss/ci_19376093?source=rss

Were there clues in Jerry Sandusky's past? [/b

I'll bet this has already been posted but it is still interesting to see all the opportunities JS had through the years to be around kids.  It looks like every decision he made involved how close it would put him t okids.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 01:56:22 PM
http://**/rss/ci_19376093?source=rss

Were there clues in Jerry Sandusky's past? [/b

I'll bet this has already been posted but it is still interesting to see all the opportunities JS had through the years to be around kids.  It looks like every decision he made involved how close it would put him t okids.

Don't  worry about posting something you think may have been posted before, kittymom.  Some may not have seen it the first time around, or it may not have been posted and we would have missed it if you hadn't posted it.  Sometimes different articles will have different info or one will have a snippet of info another won't have, so it's good to get it posted in here before they get lost imo. As far as the clues in Jerry's past, gee, I suppose one would have to sit down and look at it and there might be more of a pattern then first imagined.  I've read that people that prey on children can spend years planning and grooming them for their use and that they can be very cunning.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: cookie on December 09, 2011, 03:42:39 PM
his wife is in denial. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 04:26:45 PM
In the video, (at about 0:59) Jerry Sandusky's attorney  says "...even if somehow Jerry comes out of this without being convicted their lives are over."  He doesn't sound very positive about Jerry being found not guilty, is he?  

http://www.khou.com/sports/Sanduskys-wife-says-all-10-accusers-are-lying--135338838.html
Sandusky's wife says all 10 accusers are lying
December 9, 2011
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Dottie Sandusky said she is devastated by the accusations and that no such incident occurred.

"I am so sad anyone would make such a terrible accusation which is absolutely untrue," she said. "We don’t know why these young men have made these false accusations, but we want everyone to know they are untrue."

Video at Link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 04:43:51 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2011/12/09/sp-paterno-pennstate.html
Penn State cuts all licensing ties to Paterno
Decision to sever ties was mutual

December 9, 2011

Penn State will no longer license the name, likeness or image of former coach Joe Paterno.

A school spokeswoman said Friday the university sent notices this week to licensees that Paterno's daughter, Mary Kay Hort, will now handle the licensing program for JVP Properties. Penn State previously assisted with licensing.

Penn State said the decision to sever ties was mutual and referred further questions to Hort.
 ::snipping2::
The school says retailers can sell Penn State-Paterno merchandise until supplies run out. Manufacturers have two months to sell or dispose of such products.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 04:45:55 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/about-half-of-pennsylvanians-polled-support-paternos-firing-amid-sex-abuse-scandal/2011/12/09/gIQADf6FiO_story.html
About half of Pennsylvanians polled support Paterno’s firing amid sex abuse scandal
December 9, 2011

PHILADELPHIA — About half of Pennsylvanians surveyed for a poll released Friday support the firing of Penn State football coach Joe Paterno, although many say they still have a favorable opinion of him after the child sex-abuse scandal that erupted last month.

The poll conducted by Connecticut’s Quinnipiac University found 52 percent of registered Pennsylvania voters surveyed supported the decision of the Penn State Board of Trustees to oust the longtime coach, with 43 percent opposing the move.

But 44 percent of those polled still have a favorable opinion of Paterno despite outrage expressed by law enforcement officials who claim he didn’t take strong enough action after a graduate assistant came to him claiming he saw former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky sexually assaulting a boy in a shower at the school’s football facilities.
 ::snipping2::
The poll of 1,453 registered voters for the week ending Dec. 5 has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.6 percentage points.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
Personally (and I'm not by any stretch of the imagination an attorney), I don't think Dottie Sandusky will be charged  with anything unless one of the victims came forward and said she was an actual witness and etc.    The prosecution may want to talk to her.  However, I do believe Mrs. Sandusky is going to be facing civil suits.  JMHO

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/Could-Dottie-Sandusky-face-charges-in-her/ZhZ-4PGAi0eWAkoZmgzNLQ.cspx
Could Dottie Sandusky face charges in her husband's child sex scandal
Contributor: Nate Wardle
December 9, 2011

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There are now questions about whether Mrs. Sandusky could also face charges. The family lawyer says that is unlikely.

"I think the Attorney General's office would be hard-pressed trying to pursue some sort of criminal action against Dottie in the absence of any direct proof,” stated Attorney Joe Amendola. “That is assuming, which we deny, but even assuming the allegations are true, that she knew anything about those allegations."

Slide show at link.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 05:03:23 PM

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11343/1195773-100.stm
Penn State taking Paterno items off store shelves
December 9, 2011

Penn State University has ordered vendors holding licenses for products depicting former football coach Joe Paterno's name or likeness to sell those products within 60 days after which they must be pulled from store shelves.

University officials said today they made a mutual decision with Mr. Paterno's representatives that the university would no longer manage licensing for his image because he is no longer head coach.

Licensees have begun receiving letters from the university stating that the use of Mr. Paterno's use of name, likeness or image is no longer approved through Penn State, effective immediately, and that licensees have 60 days to deplete any merchandise depicting Mr. Paterno's image or name.

Contracts between the university and its licensees state that the university can collect any out-of-license merchandise and destroy it. The contracts do not address the circumstances under which licensees can be compensated for such losses and university officials declined to say whether such vendors will be reimbursed for Joe Paterno merchandise that remains unsold after 60 days.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 09, 2011, 05:08:11 PM
In the video, (at about 0:59) Jerry Sandusky's attorney  says "...even if somehow Jerry comes out of this without being convicted their lives are over."  He doesn't sound very positive about Jerry being found not guilty, is he? 

http://www.khou.com/sports/Sanduskys-wife-says-all-10-accusers-are-lying--135338838.html
Sandusky's wife says all 10 accusers are lying
December 9, 2011
 ::snipping2::
Dottie Sandusky said she is devastated by the accusations and that no such incident occurred.

"I am so sad anyone would make such a terrible accusation which is absolutely untrue," she said. "We don’t know why these young men have made these false accusations, but we want everyone to know they are untrue."

Video at Link
Does Dottie not realize that if she doesn't start doing the right thing right now (which would begin with divorcing that monster she shares a bed with), she'll be left penniless and shamed?  Who could possibly believe that those little boys were being raped right under her nose and she knew nothing about it.  She washed the sheets in that bedroom didn't she?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 05:16:58 PM
This article is vague imo. We already knew Raykovitz had resigned and not long after, Genevose resigned, per articles posted in this thread, so that wasn't new news.  However, who is "An expert in nonprofit management..." as mentioned in this article?   

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/accusers-claim-he-screamed-during-attack-raises-questions-about-ex-penn-state-coachs-wife/2011/12/09/gIQA953HhO_story.html
Expert questions structure of charity linked to Penn State abuse
December 9, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — A second top executive of The Second Mile appears to be leaving, and an expert is questioning how the charity founded by Jerry Sandusky was structured and run.

Katherine Genevose is the wife of former chief executive Jack Raykovitz and had been the foundation’s executive vice president. She is no longer listed as a staff member on the charity’s website. Her apparent departure was first reported by The Patriot-News.

An expert in nonprofit management says Genovese and Raykovitz had unusual control over the operations of such a large organization, and that the charity’s bylaws also gave Sandusky questionable powers.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 05:21:01 PM
In the video, (at about 0:59) Jerry Sandusky's attorney  says "...even if somehow Jerry comes out of this without being convicted their lives are over."  He doesn't sound very positive about Jerry being found not guilty, is he? 

http://www.khou.com/sports/Sanduskys-wife-says-all-10-accusers-are-lying--135338838.html
Sandusky's wife says all 10 accusers are lying
December 9, 2011
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Dottie Sandusky said she is devastated by the accusations and that no such incident occurred.

"I am so sad anyone would make such a terrible accusation which is absolutely untrue," she said. "We don’t know why these young men have made these false accusations, but we want everyone to know they are untrue."

Video at Link
Does Dottie not realize that if she doesn't start doing the right thing right now (which would begin with divorcing that monster she shares a bed with), she'll be left penniless and shamed?  Who could possibly believe that those little boys were being raped right under her nose and she knew nothing about it.  She washed the sheets in that bedroom didn't she?

 kittymom, maybe Dottie Sandusky just hasn't come to grips yet that the life she once knew as the wife of a popular asst. football coach, with social standing is gone forever.  I don't know how much Dottie knew, or might even have suspected, but I've read that sometimes people just cannot accept something so horrible and they stay in denial.  JMHO


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 05:25:26 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/12/09/national/a140833S83.DTL
Expert questions makeup of Penn St. case charity
By KEVIN BEGOS and GENARO C. ARMAS, Associated Press
December 9, 2011

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Sandusky is set to appear in court on Tuesday to face more than 50 charges that accuse him of sexually abusing 10 boys over the span of 15 years. Investigators also have questioned whether Sandusky used charity funds to "groom" the boys with extensive gifts.

An expert on nonprofit governance said that in retrospect there were some questionable aspects to the basic structure of The Second Mile.

Michael L. Wyland, who advises nonprofits as a partner in the firm Sumption & Wyland, recently analyzed the charity in an essay that appeared online in The Nonprofit Quarterly.

Wyland said he'd never seen bylaws that identify the "founder" as a corporate officer and member of the board's executive committee. The arrangement meant that Jerry Sandusky's duties conflicted with the powers of the board's chairman.


While it's not unusual for a founder to be the public face of an organization, Wyland said that board members have a legal responsibility to the charity, not the founder. Sandusky's extensive powers in the bylaws could have hindered such oversight.

Wyland noted that there's even a term in the nonprofit world for such situations: Founder's Syndrome.

The size of the Second Mile's board is also unusual. There are 36 people on the state board, plus more on regional boards. With that many people, "what tends to happen is the full board is not really able to exercise its responsibility. It's hard to have dialogue," Wyland said.

He also noted that Raykovitz, the CEO who resigned after Sandusky's arrest last month, is married to Genovese, the executive vice president who is no longer listed on the charity's website.

Wyland said that's a management conflict-of-interest, as Raykovitz would normally have been expected to review Genovese's performance and set her compensation. He noted that Raykovitz and Genovese also had formal oversight of contributions, solicitations and financial records.

"The combination of those things makes it very unusual for the CEO and the spouse to have that level of control over income and expenditure," said Wyland, who added that such situations should be avoided.

But Wyland said the tendency to blame Second Mile board members may be excessive.

"There's this temptation to say, they should have known. Well, not always," Wyland added, especially when someone involved with an organization is making extensive efforts to hide the details of their wrongdoing.

He also noted that a district attorney didn't press charges against Sandusky after investigating some complaints, meaning that Raykovitz could have credibly believed that the allegations were unfounded.

The Second Mile has hired Lynne Abraham, who served as the top prosecutor in Philadelphia for nearly two decades, to help it conduct an internal investigation to assess policies and make recommendations regarding its future.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2011, 10:34:08 PM
I'm always fascinated with the money trail, as in follow the money!! And I agree wih Nancy Grace, in that Sandusky's bond should have been millions!

http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/09/money-trail-how-sandusky-paid-bail/
Money trail: How Sandusky paid bail
December 9, 2011

(pdf - link to court document in article)

"HLN's Nancy Grace says Sandusky's bond should have been in the millions" 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 12:08:59 AM
This has come to light because of the news reports about the Penn State sex abuse case.


http://www.chron.com/sports/article/Report-AAU-CEO-accused-of-child-sex-abuse-2393143.php
Report: Ex-AAU leader accused of child sex abuse
December 9, 2011

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Two former basketball players have accused ex-Amateur Athletic Union president Robert "Bobby" Dodd of molesting them as children, according to an ESPN report.

The AAU confirmed late Friday that it is investigating the claims, which reportedly date from the 1980s. One of the players, 43-year-old Ralph West, told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" he was assaulted in Memphis in 1984.

Both West and a second unidentified man said news reports about the Penn State child sex abuse case prompted them to independently confront Dodd in November. The player, who spoke to ESPN on the condition of anonymity, said he called Dodd on Nov. 11 and that Dodd apologized for the alleged abuse. ESPN confirmed an eight-minute call to Dodd by examining telephone records.

Memphis police said in a statement that it had been contacted by the AAU and was looking into the allegations.

"The Memphis Police Department takes allegations of child sexual abuse very seriously," Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong said. "Although this case has its challenges due to the amount of time that has passed, it will be thoroughly examined; and if the investigation reveals the law was violated, the person responsible will be held accountable."

AAU Acting President Louis Stout released a statement Friday saying that the 63-year-old Dodd has colon cancer and will not return to his positions as president and executive director..

Stout also confirmed that the organization is conducting its own probe.

"The AAU has recently been made aware of some serious allegations about President Robert W. 'Bobby' Dodd, dating back several decades," the statement said. "The AAU has opened an independent investigation into these matters and also has contacted local law enforcement in Memphis, where the activities allegedly occurred. We will actively cooperate with any and all authorities to determine the facts and the truth."

An AAU spokeswoman said late Friday the group would have no additional comment.

Both accusers said they never went to police and only recently told their families.
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 12:06:01 PM
It's really sad, but I wonder how many cases are unreported?  If there's anything good that can come of it, perhaps awareness and some changes in laws to protect children from sexual predators will come about.
http://www.thestarpress.com/article/20111210/BUSTED/112100334
Local abuse a 'Jerry Sandusky case'
Local officials hope national molesting probe will encourage more victims to come forward with allegations


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 12:09:39 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/jerry_sandusky_placed_under_ho.html
Jerry Sandusky placed under house arrest in College Township
December 9, 2011

Jerry Sandusky is back in his College Township home, confined to house arrest by an ankle monitor but out of jail after spending less than 24 hours locked up.

The 67-year-old spent Wednesday night at the Centre County jail after he was unable to post $250,000 bail, the condition imposed after a dozen new child sex abuse charges were filed by the state attorney general’s office based on grand jury testimony from two new alleged victims.
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Under the terms of his release, Sandusky is confined to his home, subject to electronic monitoring and forbidden from having any contact with any witnesses or alleged victims in the attorney general’s investigation, a condition already imposed after his first arrest Nov. 5.
 ::snipping2::
The investigation against Sandusky started in late 2008, when a then-15-year-old boy told Clinton County school officials he was being abused by Sandusky, who was a volunteer football coach at his high school.

Jack Peters, the Keystone Central School District board president, said at a meeting Thursday night that the district did a thorough investigation and was “very comfortable” with how the school handled the situation.

He said he couldn’t comment further because the situation related to a minor.

But several concerns have risen about the school’s actions.

Without parental permission, Sandusky was allowed to take the boy out of class, and was caught in an awkward situation — lying with the boy on wrestling mats in a gym — by another coach, according to grand jurors.

In the initial 23-page grand jury presentment, the head football coach and assistant principal, Steve Turchetta, said Sandusky often spent time alone with students who were taken from class.

Turchetta described Sandusky as “clingy” and “needy” and told grand jurors Sandusky’s behavior was “suspicious.”

When asked about the school’s policies about students being removed from class, Peters said, “I’m not involved in the day-to-day operations, but generally we have good policies.”

When the mother of the 15-year-old, referred to as Victim One by the grand jury, expressed concern about that issue in 2008, the school principal called her son to the office and asked him about his relationship with Sandusky.

That conversation started the chain of events that led to one of the biggest scandals in sports history. The scandal has raised questions about whether Penn State officials did all they could have to stop the alleged activity and led to the ousting of head football coach Joe Paterno and President Graham Spanier, charges against two other university officials, and at least nine other alleged Sandusky victims coming forward.

Victim One’s mother told The Patriot-News that principal Karen Probst did not immediately report the allegations to authorities. Instead, the mom said, Probst told her to think about what she wanted to do.

Probst, who was at the meeting Thursday night, did not want to talk to a reporter.
Victim One also was bullied by other students who blamed him for Paterno’s firing, causing the now-18-year-old to change schools midway through his senior year, according to a therapist working with the young man. Psychologist Mike Gillum has said the school did not offer education for other students on dealing with the situation.

The 2011-2012 student handbook for the high school does not address the issue of students leaving class with adults, however, there is an anti-harassment/anti-bullying policy that says it’s a violation of policy to participate in bullying or for any school personnel to ignore it.
Video at Link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 12:12:47 PM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/penn_state/sandusky-circus-to-hit-small-town-121011
Sandusky Circus To Hit Small Town
December 10, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - The sleepy town of Bellefonte, Pa., will take center stage on Tuesday as the Jerry Sandusky hearing will be a huge media circus, with 7,000 outsiders in town.
Bellfonte (pronounced Bell-Font) has about 5,000 residents as the seat of government in Centre County, Pa., the home of neighboring Penn State.

Its population will swell early this week as a mass of reporters, camera crews and other media types invade the hamlet for Sandusky’s preliminary hearing on Tuesday morning.

As many as 7,000 people are expected to be in town for the hearing, which starts at 8:30 a.m.

There was a lottery in recent weeks to determine who will be allowed in the courtroom as Sandusky may face some of the alleged sexual-abuse victims in the case. Extra reporters will sit in an overflow room in the courthouse to watch a private video feed from the courtroom.

Almost 1,400 people applied for 100 available courtroom seats. Streets in Bellefonte will be closed Monday and Tuesday.

In a similar move in Dauphin County, there is a public lottery for 80 seats at the December 16 hearing for former Penn State administrators Tim Curley and Gary Schultz in Harrisburg, Pa.

Court proceedings aren’t televised in Pennsylvania, so the hearing won’t be a repeat of nationally broadcast trials that have become a cable news staple.

But much more should be revealed about the state’s case against Sandusky, the former Penn State assistant football coach who is accused of molesting 10 boys he met through the Second Mile, a foundation he set up while working for Penn State as Joe Paterno’s top assistant.
 ::snipping2::
Sandusky’s lawyer, Joe Amendola, has indicated he won’t waive the hearing and wants to speak with his client’s accusers in court.

If the hearing happens and concludes, it will be up to out-of-county judge Robert E. Scott from Westmoreland County to decide if more hearings are held in Bellefonte, or in a different location that could yield a jury pool not that familiar with the case.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 05:13:07 PM
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2011/12/10/unorthodox_pa_lawyer_preps_for_sandusky_hearing/
Unorthodox Pa. lawyer preps for Sandusky hearing
By Maryclaire Dale
More...
(2 pg. article)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 05:18:16 PM
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/media-migraine/2011/dec/10/gameday-blackout-cameras-barred-jerry-sandusky-hea/
Gameday blackout: Cameras barred from Jerry Sandusky hearing Tuesday
 "Gayle Falkenthal for Communities at WashingtonTimes.com”
December 10, 2011


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Pennsylvania Judge John M. Cleland barred cameras from the hearing. He also barred the use of personal computers for anything other than notetaking, meaning no tweeting, live blogging, or real time website posts. Judge Cleland will provide a courtroom sketch artist. How cutting edge.

Welcome to the 1950s era of public transparency.


More...



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 05:27:19 PM
http://www.statecollege.com/news/columns/as-joe-paterno-retains-tenure-graham-spanier-gains-emeritus-status-futures-unclear-952787/
As Joe Paterno Retains Tenure, Graham Spanier Gains Emeritus Status; Futures Unclear
December 5, 2011

Like former Penn State President Graham Spanier, former head football Coach Joe Paterno retains his status as a tenured faculty member at the university.

Confirmation came late Friday from Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers, who said Paterno has been tenured at Penn State since 1957.

A university employee directory still lists Paterno as a professor of physical education, though the Penn State trustees terminated his 46-year role as head coach effective Nov. 9.

"His possible continued service to the university in that capacity (as a tenured faculty member) has not been determined at this time," Powers wrote in an e-mail message.

An inquiry sent to Paterno's son Scott, who has addressed reporters in recent weeks, was referred Friday to Washington, D.C.-based attorney Wick Sollers. Sollers, representing Joe Paterno, had not responded by Monday evening.

Meanwhile, more information about Spanier's status at Penn State has come to light, too.

New university President Rodney Erickson confirmed Nov. 11 -- two days after Spanier's 16-year presidency ended -- that Spanier remains a tenured faculty member. He is tenured with the faculty titles of university professor and professor of human development and family studies, sociology, demography and family and community medicine.

Powers noted Friday that Spanier also has the title of president emeritus, though the process by which he received that title was not immediately clear. (Spanier was a Penn State faculty member in the 1970s and early '80s, before he returned to the university as president in 1995.)

Another point of interest: Powers reported that Spanier's ongoing sabbatical, announced earlier by the university, "was provided for in his employment contract."

"Whether he will teach next fall has not yet been determined," Powers wrote.
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 05:29:35 PM
http://tribune-democrat.com/editorials/x2088052169/Include-trustees-in-Penn-State-housecleaning
Include trustees in Penn State housecleaning
December 8, 2011


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 09:47:40 PM
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_771282.html
Penn State hires President Clinton's former special counsel
December 9, 2011

A man who served as Special Counsel to President Bill Clinton has been hired to advise Penn State's new president.

Lanny Davis, formerly a prominent Washington attorney who now heads a law and crisis management firm, has been engaged to provide legal advice and counsel to Penn State President Rodney Erickson, university spokeswoman Lisa Powers said Friday.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 09:49:40 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/11/sports/culture-of-sports-works-against-children-especially-boys-reporting-abuse.html
Coaching Gives Abusers Opportunity and Trust
By LYNN ZINSER
December 10, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2011, 09:51:37 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/editorials/index.ssf/2011/12/penn_state_transparency_new_pr.html
Penn State transparency: New president has yet to show real change
December 10, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 10, 2011, 11:57:34 PM
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_771282.html
Penn State hires President Clinton's former special counsel
December 9, 2011

A man who served as Special Counsel to President Bill Clinton has been hired to advise Penn State's new president.

Lanny Davis, formerly a prominent Washington attorney who now heads a law and crisis management firm, has been engaged to provide legal advice and counsel to Penn State President Rodney Erickson, university spokeswoman Lisa Powers said Friday.
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hmm...I guess they are in CYA mode.  But wait, that's what they've been in all along.  So much for the kids.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2011, 02:37:19 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/another_version_of_mike_mcquea.html
Another version of Mike McQueary's story about Jerry Sandusky surfaces
December 11, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2011, 02:43:17 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/11/3313881/ex-coach-sandusky-penn-state-police.html
Sandusky, police chief were once neighbors
By FRANCO ORDONEZ AND MIKE DAWSON
McClatchy Newspapers
December 11, 2011

The head of Penn State University's police department who oversaw a 1998 investigation of possible sexual abuse by former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky once lived three houses down from the defensive coordinator, property records show.

Chief Thomas Harmon took over leading the department just one month before a detective began looking into whether the chief's former neighbor sexually abused two 11-year-old boys in a campus shower. Harmon later ordered the case closed when the Centre County, Pa., district attorney decided not to file criminal charges.

Sandusky retired from Penn State a year later.

The personal connection between the chief and the architect of "Linebacker U" now has lawyers for Sandusky's alleged victims questioning what role those ties may have played in closing the 1998 investigation, which they argue was a missed opportunity to stop Sandusky from assaulting more children.

"It reflects how incestuous the cast of characters are," said Michael Boni, who represents the person identified as Victim 1 in the Pennsylvania grand jury report released last month. "It's circular. The fact that they were neighbors ought to be investigated. Did Harmon think 'I shouldn't pursue this matter' because he's a friend or neighbor? These things have to be looked at."
 ::snipping2::
According to the grand jury report, Harmon ordered his detective, Ronald Schreffler, to close the Sandusky case after then-District Attorney Ray Gricar decided not to file criminal charges.

In 1977, Harmon moved onto Norle Street, a small tight-knit community in Centre County where residents described neighborhood kids playing together, including Sandusky's and Harmon's children. They rode bikes together in the cul-de-sac. Sandusky also hosted kickball games in his backyard. Several neighbors said they were shocked by the allegations and described the Sanduskys as a loving family and great neighbors.

Colleagues said the two families attended the same church, St. Paul's United Methodist Church in State College.

Harmon had been director of Penn State police since 1990. In April 1998, he assumed more responsibilities when David Stormer, an assistant vice president who oversaw the department, retired and his position wasn't filled. Stormer couldn't be reached for comment.

Harmon, now retired, sold his home in August and moved to Pittsburgh. He declined to speak about the investigation, including his relationship with Sandusky, citing the state attorney general's ongoing investigation.

The Sanduskys moved from Norle Street in 1984 to the home they built on Grandview Road, less than two miles away.

The State College Police Department denied requests for copies of the 1998 investigation, including reports on two calls Sandusky had with a victim's mother that police were listening in on. Police cited the Pennsylvania Right-to-Know laws that exempt investigative records and information on juveniles.

On Thursday, the state Office of Open Records ruled that Penn State police do not have to release any records of the investigation.

Nils Hagen-Fredericksen, a spokesman for the Attorney General's Office, said the 1998 investigation is only one part of the substantial amount of evidence and testimony that has been presented to the grand jury, including "hundreds of interviews and thousands of documents."

"More of that information will become unsealed as that court process moves forward," he said.
The grand jury found that details of the '98 investigation include allegations that match many of those made by other alleged victims. And, according to people with knowledge of the 1998 case, only a fraction of what was uncovered during the two-month investigation is included in the grand jury report.

The full 1998 report is roughly 130 pages chronicling "down-to-the minute" details of Sandusky's interactions with two alleged victims.


The two 11-year-old boys at the center of the 1998 investigation are identified in the grand jury report as Victim 6 and B.K. The latter, the report states, was "subjected to nearly identical treatment in the shower as Victim 6."
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 11, 2011, 02:43:43 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/another_version_of_mike_mcquea.html
Another version of Mike McQueary's story about Jerry Sandusky surfaces
December 11, 2011


Could it be that McQueary was afraid of Sandusky's connections and pull? 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2011, 02:51:37 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/another_version_of_mike_mcquea.html
Another version of Mike McQueary's story about Jerry Sandusky surfaces
December 11, 2011


Could it be that McQueary was afraid of Sandusky's connections and pull? 

It wouldn't surprise me.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2011, 02:55:32 PM
This has got to be really difficult, given Joe Paterno's age and he's already undergoing treatment for lung cancer. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/11/former-penn-state-coach-joe-paterno-fractures-his-pelvis-for-second-time/
Former Penn State Coach Joe Paterno Fractures His Pelvis for Second Time
December 11, 2011

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. –  Joe Paterno fractured his pelvis again following a fall at his home but will not need surgery, a person close to the family told The Associated Press on Sunday.

The former Penn State football coach was expected to make a full recovery after slipping Saturday and was admitted to the hospital the next day, the person added. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

Paterno, who turns 85 on Dec. 21, is also undergoing radiation and chemotherapy for what his family has said is a treatable form of lung cancer. Son Scott Paterno has said doctors are optimistic his father would make a full recovery from the illness.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2011, 04:23:49 PM
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/12/11/usa-crime-coach-pennstate-idINDEE7BA01N20111211
Sandusky seems determined for trial in abuse case
December 11, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2011, 04:46:26 PM
http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/prelim-primer-what-tuesdays-sandusky-hearing-will-hold-958127/
Prelim Primer: What Tuesday's Sandusky Hearing Will Hold
by Adam Smeltz Nate Mink
December 11, 2011

Jerry Sandusky, charged with 52 criminal counts, is due in Centre County Court on Tuesday for a preliminary hearing.

The proceeding in the child-sexual-abuse case is a standard step in the Pennsylvania court process.

But just what exactly is a preliminary hearing? Who is likely to appear?

Here's an overview of the process that will unfold Tuesday in Bellefonte:
More...

 ::snipping2::
An official court transcript from the hearing will be posted on the Centre County government website once it's approved by involved parties. That transcript may not appear for some days after the hearing, court officials have said.
http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/default.asp
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2011, 04:54:32 PM
http://www.co.centre.pa.us/
Centre County Government, Centre County, Pennsylvania
Media Information
This page was established to provide information on the case of Commonwealth vs. Gerald Sandusky filed in Centre County, Pennsylvania. Updates will be provided by the Court Administrator's Office as they occur.



http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/default.asp#15
Courtroom Decorum
All those attending the Commonwealth vs. Sandusky preliminary hearing scheduled for December 13, 2011 must read and abide by the

DECORUM ORDER ISSUED BY JUDGE CLELAND.
http://www.co.centre.pa.us/media/DECORUM%20ORDER%20ISSUED%20BY%20JUDGE%20CLELAND.pdf

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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2011, 08:35:53 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-12-11/penn-state-alleged-victims-court-jerry-sandusky/51818510/1
Alleged victims in Penn State case to face Jerry Sandusky
By Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY
December 11, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2011, 11:30:05 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-57341173/sandusky-dreading-court-date-lawyer/
Sandusky "dreading" court date: lawyer
By Anna Werner
December 12, 2011
  
(CBS News)

At least five alleged victims in the Penn State sex abuse scandal are set to tell their stories in court for the first time Tuesday.

Former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky will be there, too, to hear their testimony -- and his lawyer, Joe Amendola, says Sandusky is "dreading" the court date.

"And I'm sure, you can imagine, he's going to have to sit in a court room with a couple hundred people -- I understand it's going to be filled to capacity, including members of his family, and friends -- who are going to listen to these young men say horrific things occurred between them and Jerry," Amendola said.

Sandusky's accusers' allegations have been the subject of two grand jury reports, and hundreds of news stories, but Tuesday, his accusers are expected to answer questions themselves about their allegations that he molested them, CBS News' Anna Werner reports.  
 ::snipping2::
One person who will not testify Tuesday will be Sandusky himself: This will be a probable cause hearing in which prosecutors have to establish the basic elements of the charges against Sandusky. No cameras will be allowed in the courtroom.
Video at Link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2011, 11:34:51 AM
This would appear to be one of the few choices Joe Amendola has to attempt Jerry Sandusky imo.  It doesn't hold water for me though.  From what I've been reading in various articles, one of the victims has been horribly taunted and teased. 

http://www.wgal.com/r/29976725/detail.html
Sandusky Attorney Says Accusations Are All About Money
December 12, 2011




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2011, 11:47:29 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16424864/penn-state-culture-explained-away-sandusky
Penn State culture explained away Sandusky despite troubling signs
December 12, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 12, 2011, 12:52:46 PM
Sandusky is never going to admit that he's done anything wrong.  This will be explained away as a ploy for money, lies by troubled young men, envy, whatever to put the blame on someone other than Sandusky.  If they had videotaped evidence he'd say the kids asked for it. 
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2011, 12:59:53 PM
Sandusky is never going to admit that he's done anything wrong.  This will be explained away as a ploy for money, lies by troubled young men, envy, whatever to put the blame on someone other than Sandusky.  If they had videotaped evidence he'd say the kids asked for it. 
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


ITA 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2011, 04:48:06 PM
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/12/143562992/sandusky-scandal-casts-pale-on-central-pa-high-school
Sandusky Scandal Casts Pall On Central Pa. School
by Tom Goldman
December 12, 2011

You can listen to the story Morning Edition (4:17), or read the transcript.  Link to audio in article. 




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 12, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
I'm glad to see some changes are being made here.  It's time for more transparency imo.


http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/judge-eases-media-rules-for-sandusky-hearing-court-officials-looked-to-other-cases-959532/
Judge Eases Media Rules for Sandusky Hearing; Court Officials Looked to Other Cases
December 12, 2011

Reporters covering Jerry Sandusky's preliminary hearing Tuesday in Bellefonte will be allowed to distribute news via Twitter, text messages and e-mails immediately as the proceedings unfold, a judge ruled Monday.

Several news organizations, including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times and CNN, asked the presiding senior judge, John M. Cleland, to amend his earlier decorum order for the hearing. In that order, issued Dec. 6, Cleland had banned all electronic communication from the courtroom and from an adjacent annex room where other reporters will see a live feed of the proceedings.

The altered, loosened guidelines apply only to credentialed members of the news media, according to a court announcement. Non-reporter members of the general public who attend the hearing will not be allowed to bring mobile phones or laptops into the courtroom, per Cleland's order.

Also, a longstanding Pennsylvania rule prohibiting cameras during court proceedings will remain in effect.

Cleland has put into place a number of other rules for the hearing. For one thing, anyone -- any reporter or member of the general public -- who leaves the courtroom for any reason will not be allowed to return until a break or a recess in the proceedings.

Also, no food or beverages will be allowed in the courtroom. Only those who've already received tickets or credentials will be allowed entry as observers. (Those allowed observers include about 300 people: 200 journalists -- split between the main courtroom and the annex room -- and 100 members of the general public. The selected members of the general public will be allowed access in the main courtroom only.)

Cleland crafted the guidelines with substantial input from the Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts (AOPC), court spokesman Jim Koval said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 13, 2011, 08:27:54 AM
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Jerry-Sandusky-Arrives-to-Court-135499673.html
Jerry Sandusky Arrives to Court
Quote
Sandusky, in a dark suit, entered the back door of the county courthouse Tuesday with his wife, Dottie, at his side. He looked straight ahead, ignoring questions from reporters. Defense attorney Joseph Amendola followed him into the courthouse.

About 50 members of the media awaited Sandusky's arrival. About 10 local residents were also on hand, a few of them waiting with cameras to take pictures.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 13, 2011, 08:28:27 AM
LIVE BLOG
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/12/13/live-blog-sandusky-hearing/


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 13, 2011, 08:43:29 AM
LIVE BLOG
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/12/13/live-blog-sandusky-hearing/

Quote
The judge introduced the participants then asked if anybody has anything to say. Mr. Amendola approached the bench along with the prosecutors and whispered a few words. Judge Scott then asked Mr. Sandusky if he understood he had the right to the hearing and knew what he was doing. The former football coached nodded. They walked out. Reporters gasped. They are now filing out

??????????????  What's this strategy????


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 13, 2011, 08:44:28 AM
LIVE BLOG
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/12/13/live-blog-sandusky-hearing/

Quote
The judge introduced the participants then asked if anybody has anything to say. Mr. Amendola approached the bench along with the prosecutors and whispered a few words. Judge Scott then asked Mr. Sandusky if he understood he had the right to the hearing and knew what he was doing. The former football coached nodded. They walked out. Reporters gasped. They are now filing out

??????????????  What's this strategy????

Quote
A lectern has been set up outside the courtroom, and lawyers are expected to emerge to make statements. We're waiting in the freezing cold. This is not a complete surprise. Legal analysts have often said Mr. Sandusky would be prudent to waive the hearing, which would bring yet more public scrutiny to allegedly monstrous crimes. A parade of witnesses was expected this morning. By waiving the hearing, Mr. Amendola and Mr. Sandusky now have months to prepare their defense.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: trimmonthelake on December 13, 2011, 09:08:09 AM
http://twitter.com/sganim (http://twitter.com/sganim)
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#sandusky said he intends to fight but today wasnt the right day
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Attny for victim 1 says his client never came to courthouse
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Prosecutor says no plea talks/11 witnesses ready/waiver surprising
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#sandusky just waived his preliminary hearing
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#sandusky is in the courtroom with Amendola
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#sandusky just entered courthouse under heavy police guard
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 10:22:55 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/13/former-penn-state-coach-sandusky-waives-preliminary-hearing/
Attorney: Sandusky Hearing Waiver Was Tactical, Not Admission of Guilt
December 13, 2011

BELLEFONTE, Pa. –  Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky opted against a preliminary hearing in his child molestation case, sparing his accusers from making their claims in a packed courtroom Tuesday but still vowing "to fight for four quarters" as he defends himself.

His decision to waive the hearing, though unexpected, is not unusual in Pennsylvania.

At the hearings, prosecutors must show that they have probable cause to bring the case to trial. Prosecutors in this case were expected to meet that relatively low bar, in part because the case been through a grand jury.
 ::snipping2::
Sandusky's lawyer, Joseph Amendola, called the decision a "tactical measure" to head off a repeat of the child sex-abuse allegations. He said having the allegations aired anew "really would have left us with the worst of all worlds."

He said the decision had nothing to do with "cowardice or gamesmanship" and that the defense was not conceding guilt.

Senior Deputy Attorney General E. Marc Costanzo said: "This development we believe provides maximum protection to most importantly the victims in this case. It avoids their having to testify for a second time. They will of course testify at a trial in the case."

Costanzo said the amount of publicity generated by Amendola made the move unexpected, but said the decision to waive was not unusual given the strength of the state's case.

There have been no discussions about a plea bargain, Costanzo said, echoing statements from Amendola. Sandusky's next court appearance, an arraignment, is scheduled for Jan. 11. He remains under house arrest.

 ::snipping2::





Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 10:30:38 AM
http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/13/live-updates-sandusky-to-face-accusers-in-preliminary-hearing/
Sandusky Changes Course, Waives Preliminary Hearing
By JERé LONGMAN
December 13, 2011

BELLEFONTE, Pa. — Jerry Sandusky, the disgraced former assistant football coach at Penn State, waived his right to a preliminary hearing on Tuesday, which was supposed to feature the first public testimony of some of the 10 boys he is accused of sexually molesting.
 ::snipping2::
Prosecutors said the case will now enter the trial phase and Sandusky would be arraigned on Jan. 11.

“We fully intend to put together the best defense we can,” Sandusky told reporters as he left the courtroom. “We’re going to stay the course, and fight for four quarters.”

Sandusky could have indicated his intention to waive the hearing earlier, but his attorney, Joseph Amendola, said they would proceed with it and the accusers planned to testify in open court. Without this hearing, the accusers will now only have to testify publicly once, at the trial.
 ::snipping2::
Costanzo said no plea bargain has been discussed with Sandusky or his lawyer.
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 11:21:47 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/us/sandusy-pastor/?hpt=us_c2
Sandusky's pastor stands by him through sex abuse crisis
By Dana Garrett, CNN
December 13, 2011

Video at Link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 01:50:51 PM


http://abcnews.go.com/US/jerry-sandusky-waives-hearing-suggest-victims-collusion/story?id=15141413#.TueW61ZVXIU
Jerry Sandusky Waives Hearing, Suggests Victims May Have Colluded
December 13, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 02:41:57 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/1-800-reality-number-jerry-sandusky-lawyer-quips-turns-a-gay-phone-sex-line-article-1.990880?localLinksEnabled=false
1-800-REALITY number that Jerry Sandusky lawyer quips about turns out to be a gay phone-sex line
Joe Amendola inadvertently gives number for 'the hottest place for triple-X action'

BY Michael O'keeffe
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
December 13, 2011

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
http://twitter.com/PeterAlexander (http://twitter.com/PeterAlexander)

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#BREAKING #Sandusky lawyer says many of alleged victims may be falsely accusing Sandusky for money. Won't discuss plea deal.
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#RIGHTNOW #Sandusky lawyer: "Credibility is going to be the main factor in this case."
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#BREAKING #Sandusky vows to "stay the course" & "fight for four quarters" in defending against abuse charges.
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#BREAKING #Sandusky advisor: "... & no strong need to cross examine [McQueary]." (2)
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#BREAKING #Sandusky legal advisor: One of main reasons for waiving hearing is "McQueary's credibility has already faded" (1)
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Per @SavannahGuthrie, #Sandusky defense team may have waived prelim hearing to avoid more negative publicity.
6 hours ago
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#BREAKING Waiver means alleged victims will only have to testify once against #Sandusky. Next step: Jan. 11 arraignment.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
I still think "sex abuse scandal" is the wrong phrase.  JMHO

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/13/us-usa-crime-coach-timeline-idUSTRE7BC25B20111213
Timeline: The Penn State child sex abuse scandal
December 13, 2011

Sources: Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office and Centre County grand jury report.

(Compiled by Daniel Trotta in New York and Ian Simpson in Washington, Edited by Greg McCune)
U.S.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 04:11:46 PM
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-12-13/sandusky-waived-hearing-after-last-minute-late-night-talks.html
Sandusky Waived Hearing After Last-Minute, Late-Night Talks
By Sophia Pearson and Ann Woolner
December 13, 2011

Dec. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Jerry Sandusky’s lawyer and prosecutors negotiated late into last night to set the stage for the abbreviated preliminary hearing in the child sex-abuse case against the former Pennsylvania State University assistant football coach.

Sandusky, 67, waived his right to the hearing at the start of the 8:30 a.m. session today in Bellefonte, Pennsylvania, where some of his accusers were set to testify. He also waived an arraignment, pleading not guilty to more than 40 criminal counts related to the alleged molestation of 10 boys from 1994 to 2009. The decision was made at 10:30 p.m. yesterday after talks with prosecutors by phone, his attorney, Joseph Amendola, said in an interview.

Amendola said he got commitments from the prosecutors to expedite evidence sharing and to maintain bail terms in exchange for the waiver. The deal may backfire on the defense, a former prosecutor said. By choosing not to question the 11 witnesses set to testify today, Amendola and his client are forgoing valuable information they could use at trial.

“In a preliminary hearing, you have the right to confront your accusers, you have the right to cross-examine witnesses. It’s a very helpful and powerful tool for a trial lawyer,” said Jack McMahon, a former prosecutor in the Philadelphia District Attorney’s office. “It doesn’t make sense to give up that important right.”
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 04:21:47 PM
It sounds to me like the good ole' boy system facilitates the continued abuse of youth. Despite the failed background check, despite letters and warning from the athletic director, Jerry Sandusky continued to come onto campus and had contact with players.  I guess it's a question of who wanted to bell the cat? 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57342469/pa-college-sandusky-worked-with-football-team/
Pa. college: Sandusky worked with football team
December 13, 2011

(AP)

PHILADELPHIA - Despite being told he'd failed a background check after he applied to be a volunteer coach at a central Pennsylvania college last year, Jerry Sandusky continued to have contact with the football team, even ramping up his role throughout the season over the protests of the athletic director, school officials said Tuesday.

The retired Penn State assistant attended games at Juniata College and interacted with players on the practice field despite repeated attempts by the then-athletic director to keep him away from the program, school spokesman John Wall said Tuesday.
 ::snipping2::
Wall said Sandusky worked last season as a consultant for the former head coach, Carmen Felus, despite the rejection letter and two orders from the former athletic director that Sandusky have no contact with the program.

But Sandusky was spotted in the press box during a Sept. 25, 2010, game at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster, and Felus was given a third warning by then-athletic director Larry Bock, Wall said.

"It got actually more active toward the end of the season, after this Sept. 25 ultimatum," Wall said.


Felus left Juniata after last season to take a coaching job at the University of Tennessee at Martin. A message left for a school spokesman Tuesday was not immediately returned.

No other red flags were raised about Sandusky's involvement with the football team during the season, said Bock, now the women's volleyball coach at Navy.

Bock recalled that Sandusky had a personal relationship with Felus and had visited the campus a few other times, once to give a motivational talk to the team.

The extent of Sandusky's involvement with the program was not clear until the following semester, Wall said.

Sandusky's application to be a volunteer assistant was denied in June 2010 after a background check revealed that he was under investigation by a high school where he'd previously volunteered, Wall said.

Juniata did not know the details of the investigation, Wall said, only that Sandusky was ineligible to work at the high school.

Ultimately, that investigation led to a pair of grand jury reports that allege Sandusky repeatedly assaulted young boys, including attacks that happened on Penn State's campus and the basement of his State College home.

Sandusky waived a preliminary hearing Thursday. He has acknowledged showering with and embracing young boys but denied sexually assaulting them.

Wall blamed Felus for failing to cut ties with Sandusky as directed.

"We gave our coach three distinct orders to get rid of this guy," he said.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 05:27:49 PM
The tactic of discrediting victims is nothing new in cases such as Sandusky's, and is one of the few choices this attorney's have to defend him. Even if Mike McQueary is found to be questionable, I frankly don't think that is a reflection on thevictims. That's just Jerry Sandusky's attorney talking. I think with the testimony of each and every victim, it's going to be worse for Sandusky.  And that's why Joe Amendola waived the pretrial.  They didn't want to inflame everyone with hearing about what Sandusky did to the victims.  JMHO  BTW, I've noticed a second attorney has been added by Jerry Sandusky for his defense against the 52 charges of the 10 victims.  I wonder who's paying for that?  

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-12-13/sandusky-hearing-sex-charges/51866460/1
Sandusky defense will key on credibility of witness
December 13, 2011







Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2011, 09:46:41 PM
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/sports/ap/sandusky-waives-hearing-on-sex-abuse-charges/article_c5ff79d8-3f83-56df-9657-bbb88cac87b6.html
Sandusky waives hearing on sex abuse charges
December 13, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Amendola told reporters Tuesday that Sandusky is an emotional, physical man _ "a loving guy, an affectionate guy" _ who never did anything illegal. The lawyer likened Sandusky's behavior to his own Italian family in which "everybody hugged and kissed each other."

The lawyer accused the unidentified victims of seeking to cash in through false accusations and said the preliminary hearing would not have allowed him to delve into the witnesses' credibility.

Amendola said he decided to waive the preliminary hearing late Monday after concluding that the evidence would be one-sided, and after prosecutors agreed to give early warning of any further charges and to keep Sandusky's bail at $250,000.

A spokesman for the prosecutors said Sandusky's bail conditions were adequate, but made no other promises.

"Sandusky waived his rights today. We waived nothing," said Nils Frederiksen, a spokesman for the state attorney general's office.

Amendola and state prosecutors confirmed that no one had started plea bargain talks.

"There will be no plea negotiations," Amendola said. "This is a fight to the death."

Sandusky also waived a January arraignment and requested a jury trial, his lawyer said. A pretrial conference was set for March.

"If he wants to change his mind at the last minute, that's his prerogative," senior deputy attorney general E. Marc Costanzo said.
 ::snipping2::
Sandusky was accompanied to court by his wife, Dottie, some of their adopted children and alumni of The Second Mile, an organization that he founded in 1977 to help struggling children. The grand jury report said he used the charity to meet and lure his alleged victims.
 ::snipping2::
Curley and Schultz face preliminary hearings on Friday in Harrisburg. They have denied the allegations against them. Curley was placed on leave and Schultz returned to retirement in the wake of their arrests.
 ::snipping2::
Meanwhile, officials at another Pennsylvania school said Tuesday that Sandusky insinuated himself into the school's football program last year, despite being denied an official position because he failed a background check.

Sandusky had sought a volunteer coaching position at Juniata College in May 2010, more than a year after a high school where he volunteered began investigating his contact with a student there.

Sandusky attended Juniata practices and games despite the athletic director's directives to the then-head coach that Sandusky couldn't associate with the team, school spokesman John Wall said.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 14, 2011, 01:10:12 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/1-800-reality-number-jerry-sandusky-lawyer-quips-turns-a-gay-phone-sex-line-article-1.990880?localLinksEnabled=false
1-800-REALITY number that Jerry Sandusky lawyer quips about turns out to be a gay phone-sex line
Joe Amendola inadvertently gives number for 'the hottest place for triple-X action'

BY Michael O'keeffe
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
December 13, 2011

 ::MonkeyEek::
hmmmm...so many things to say.  Nawwwww....just too easy.    :santa:


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Sister on December 14, 2011, 08:09:19 AM
The tactic of discrediting victims is nothing new in cases such as Sandusky's, and is one of the few choices this attorney's have to defend him. Even if Mike McQueary is found to be questionable, I frankly don't think that is a reflection on thevictims. That's just Jerry Sandusky's attorney talking. I think with the testimony of each and every victim, it's going to be worse for Sandusky.  And that's why Joe Amendola waived the pretrial.  They didn't want to inflame everyone with hearing about what Sandusky did to the victims.  JMHO  BTW, I've noticed a second attorney has been added by Jerry Sandusky for his defense against the 52 charges of the 10 victims.  I wonder who's paying for that?  

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-12-13/sandusky-hearing-sex-charges/51866460/1
Sandusky defense will key on credibility of witness
December 13, 2011

MuffyBee, I agree.  I'm just glad the victims won't have to be put through the torture but one more time, God willing.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 10:34:28 AM
The tactic of discrediting victims is nothing new in cases such as Sandusky's, and is one of the few choices this attorney's have to defend him. Even if Mike McQueary is found to be questionable, I frankly don't think that is a reflection on thevictims. That's just Jerry Sandusky's attorney talking. I think with the testimony of each and every victim, it's going to be worse for Sandusky.  And that's why Joe Amendola waived the pretrial.  They didn't want to inflame everyone with hearing about what Sandusky did to the victims.  JMHO  BTW, I've noticed a second attorney has been added by Jerry Sandusky for his defense against the 52 charges of the 10 victims.  I wonder who's paying for that?  

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-12-13/sandusky-hearing-sex-charges/51866460/1
Sandusky defense will key on credibility of witness
December 13, 2011

MuffyBee, I agree.  I'm just glad the victims won't have to be put through the torture but one more time, God willing.

And then I read this:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20553288,00.html
Jerry Sandusky Case: Victim No. 4 Wants to Testify
December 13, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Attorneys for other victims berated Sandusky for putting the victims through the stress of preparing for the preliminary hearing only to deny their having their say in court.

"He could have done this last week or even last night," says Slade McLaughlin, an attorney for Victim Number One. "All he really did was shake up the victims."


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 01:16:53 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/15/sports/in-sandusky-case-yet-another-sad-strange-turn.html
In Sandusky Case, Yet Another Sad, Strange Turn
By LYNN ZINSER
December 14, 2011


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 14, 2011, 02:02:00 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/15/sports/in-sandusky-case-yet-another-sad-strange-turn.html
In Sandusky Case, Yet Another Sad, Strange Turn
By LYNN ZINSER
December 14, 2011

Too bad Sandusky doesn't have to foot the bill for all the costs associated with the non-court day.  I tend to agree with the comments in the article concerning yesterday's ploy being nothing more than a power play by Sandusky and atty to try to exert a little control over the lives of these victims.  Like raping them all over again.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 02:03:36 PM
What about Jerry and Dottie's grandson?  Is he a liar too?  Is he after money too?  Dottie is going to stand by her husband while one of the ten victims to file complaints against Jerry is her own grandson?  And the grandson is still a minor.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/grandson_accuses_sandusky_76CGzu3khAEzS0LKpZoCWK?utm_campaign=OutbrainA&utm_source=OutbrainArticlepages&obref=obinsource
Grandson accuses Sandusky
November 5, 2011
<snip>
One of the new allegations against accused Penn State pedophile Jerry Sandusky involves his own grandson, his lawyer says.
The complaint against the former football coach was filed with Pennsylvania’s Children and Youth Services by the wife of one of Sandusky’s five adopted sons, the suspect’s lawyer told ABC News.
<snip>



http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_good_wife_9AZF7Um0dT17P00JpAbRnJ
Sandusky's wife sticks by her man despite abuse charges
By HELEN FREUND in Bellefonte, Pa. and BOB FREDERICKS in New York
December 14, 2011

She’s standing by her “perv.”

Accused Penn State child molester Jerry Sandusky showed up for court yesterday with his dazed-looking wife, Dottie, by his side, vowing to “stay the course, to fight for four quarters.”

A bespectacled Dottie Sandusky, wearing a dressy blue blouse tightly wrapped under a large beige shawl, sat stone-faced with the couple’s four sons and other relatives in the front row of the packed courtroom.

Sandusky — charged with more than 50 counts of sexually abusing 10 boys over a 12-year period — waived his right to a hearing that would have forced his alleged victims to detail their shocking allegations against him.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 02:08:13 PM
I believe the sports references in these cases are extremely inappropriate.  These aren't games, they're people lives. I think sports mania is part of the reason Jerry got away with what he did for so long.  JMHO

http://tribune-democrat.com/bigstory/x941119162/Sandusky-waives-hearing-heads-to-trial
Sandusky's attorney: 'This is the biggest game of his life'
December 13, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 14, 2011, 02:08:45 PM
What about Jerry and Dottie's grandson?  Is he a liar too?  Is he after money too?  Dottie is going to stand by her husband while one of the ten victims to file complaints against Jerry is her own grandson?  And the grandson is still a minor.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/grandson_accuses_sandusky_76CGzu3khAEzS0LKpZoCWK?utm_campaign=OutbrainA&utm_source=OutbrainArticlepages&obref=obinsource
Grandson accuses Sandusky
November 5, 2011
<snip>
One of the new allegations against accused Penn State pedophile Jerry Sandusky involves his own grandson, his lawyer says.
The complaint against the former football coach was filed with Pennsylvania’s Children and Youth Services by the wife of one of Sandusky’s five adopted sons, the suspect’s lawyer told ABC News.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_good_wife_9AZF7Um0dT17P00JpAbRnJ
Sandusky's wife sticks by her man despite abuse charges
By HELEN FREUND in Bellefonte, Pa. and BOB FREDERICKS in New York
December 14, 2011

She’s standing by her “perv.”

Accused Penn State child molester Jerry Sandusky showed up for court yesterday with his dazed-looking wife, Dottie, by his side, vowing to “stay the course, to fight for four quarters.”

A bespectacled Dottie Sandusky, wearing a dressy blue blouse tightly wrapped under a large beige shawl, sat stone-faced with the couple’s four sons and other relatives in the front row of the packed courtroom.

Sandusky — charged with more than 50 counts of sexually abusing 10 boys over a 12-year period — waived his right to a hearing that would have forced his alleged victims to detail their shocking allegations against him.
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Maybe she'll excuse it as that not really being her grandson.  I mean, his dad is adopted you know.  And that mother of his probably influenced him because she wants money and hates the family, blah, blah, blah.  I'm sure Dottie has lived a lifetime of making excuses for JS's behavior so this isn't new for her.  She's just never had cameras pointed at her while trying to pretend that everything is normal.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 14, 2011, 02:14:02 PM
http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2011/12/the_suspected_pedophiles_wife.html

Suspected pedophiles' spouses: What's their role?

Not sure I agree with the excuses given in this article.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 02:20:05 PM
This subject has been visited already a number of times in this thread, and to me, this article basically runs it by us one more time.  Don't expect to find an answer here, because Dottie would be the only one that can answer. For example, my own Mom stayed in denial about my Father's impending death.  He was dying in the hospital from renal failure and complications, including an amputated leg for gangrene, and there was no saving him.  The rest of my family could see it. She was angry because we wanted help from hospice, and she was angry and indignant and told us that was for people that were dying.   However, my Mom was sure they were both "going to walk out of the hospital".  It took a while, but she finally asked 'why could everyone see it but me?"  I think it was a defense mechanism for her.  It was just too much for her to accept.  Maybe that's the way it is for Dottie, I don't know. 

http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2011/12/the_suspected_pedophiles_wife.html
Suspected pedophiles' spouses: What's their role?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 02:23:09 PM
http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2011/12/the_suspected_pedophiles_wife.html

Suspected pedophiles' spouses: What's their role?

Not sure I agree with the excuses given in this article.

Kittymom, we were posting the same article at the same time, but I was adding in some commentary.  It's still hard for me to believe just how much my Mom was in denial.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 03:16:52 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Jerry-Sandusky-Joe-Amendola-shouldnt-say-another-word-until-court-121411
Sandusky should save talk for court
December 14, 2011


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 04:34:11 PM
What?!   ::MonkeyEek::  Really?  THIS is how they plan to defend Jerry?  Jerry's legal team is going to portray him as "mentally and emotionally" more on par with a teenager? 

morgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/14/sanduskys-lawyer-i-believe-that-mentally-and-emotionally-he-is-much-more-on-par-with-a-teenager/?hpt=pm_mid
Sandusky's lawyer: "I believe that mentally and emotionally he is much more on par with a teenager"
December 14, 2011




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 05:17:22 PM
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/12/merck_ceo_decided_to_head_penn.html
Merck CEO decided to head Jerry Sandusky investigation out of gratitude for school
December 14, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 05:31:01 PM
Here we go-o-o-o!  Joe Amendola, Jerry Sandusky's attorney on Today's Show.  The start of his claim to fame case   ::MonkeyRoll::

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/jerry_sanduskys_attorney_joe_a.html
Jerry Sandusky's attorney, Joe Amendola, defends late waiver of preliminary hearing, his own competency
December 14, 2011

Video at Link






Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 06:49:21 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57343140/penn-st-figures-accused-of-lying-head-to-court/
Penn St. figures accused of lying head to court
December 14, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Tim Curley and Gary Schultz face their own pretrial hearing on Friday in Harrisburg, and although the charges are much different, with far less severe potential penalties, their cases could hinge on a man also expected to be a prime witness against Sandusky: assistant football coach Mike McQueary.
McQueary testified that he happened upon "rhythmic, slapping sounds" in the football team locker room showers in March 2002, and looked in to see a naked boy being sodomized by the former defensive coordinator, according to a grand jury presentment.

McQueary, then a 28-year-old graduate assistant, reported what he saw to then-football coach Joe Paterno, the grand jury said. Paterno called Curley, the university's athletic director, the next day, and a week and a half later McQueary met with Curley and Schultz — who oversaw university police in his position as a vice president.

What precisely was said at those meetings, and what Curley and Schultz did or didn't do afterward is at the heart of the government's case against them.
More...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: Buckeye on December 14, 2011, 06:57:17 PM
What?!   ::MonkeyEek::  Really?  THIS is how they plan to defend Jerry?  Jerry's legal team is going to portray him as "mentally and emotionally" more on par with a teenager? 

morgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/14/sanduskys-lawyer-i-believe-that-mentally-and-emotionally-he-is-much-more-on-par-with-a-teenager/?hpt=pm_mid
Sandusky's lawyer: "I believe that mentally and emotionally he is much more on par with a teenager"
December 14, 2011




Well, if my teenage son was spending an inordinate amount of time "wrestling" and buying presents for younger boys and having them for sleepovers, I would definitely think he had a problem.  This behavior is not normal for a teenager much less a grown man and father figure.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 06:57:57 PM
Oh, for Pete's sake!!!  An adult wouldn't need to be naked in a shower after hours with a young boy who was also naked to teach the boy hygiene.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Only an attorney on Jerry Sandusky's defense team could think that one up.  It looks like ole' Jer is in deep if this is the direction the defense is going.  Earlier it was that Jerry was "mentally and intellectually" more like a teenager than a man in his 60's.  I find it horrifying if any jurors are going to be that gullible and believe this hogwash.  JMHO

http://www.abc27.com/story/16319215/carlise-attorney-hired-by-sandusky
Attorney: Sandusky may have been teaching kids to shower
Posted December 13, 2011 Updated December 14, 2011

HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) -

A Carlisle attorney who has joined Jerry Sandusky's defense team says the former Penn State assistant football coach may have showered with young boys because the children lacked basic hygiene skills.

Sandusky is accused of molesting ten boys he met through The Second Mile charity he founded for troubled youth.

"Some of these kids don't have basic hygiene skills," attorney Karl Rominger said. "Teaching a person to shower at the age of 12 or 14 sounds strange to some people, but people who work with troubled youth will tell you there are a lot of juvenile delinquents and people who are dependent who have to be taught basic life skills like how to put soap on their body."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 07:03:22 PM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/mike-mcqueary%27s-wife%3A-%27it%27s-tough%22-121311
Mike McQueary's Wife: 'It's Tough'
Published December 13, 2011
Updated December 14, 2011

BELLEFONTE, Pa. - Fox 29's Bruce Gordon spoke briefly with the wife of Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary, the Penn State assistant whose testimony is the key to the state's case against Jerry Sandusky and two former Penn State's administrators.
 ::snipping2::
Mike McQueary and his wife, Barbara, were both home, and his wife told Gordon that Mike McQueary was unavailable. But she did speak briefly to Gordon.

“We aren’t able to comment yet,” she said.”

Gordon then asked if the McQuearys had any comments on claims by Joe Amendola, Sandusky's lawyer, that Mike McQueary wasn't truthful in his testimony about a 2002 incident that he witnessed involving Sandusky and a young boy.

“As a lot of people would image it’s tough, but unfortunately we can’t comment,” she said. ‘It’s tough for both of us, hopefully, one day we’ll be able to.”
 ::snipping2::
It is unknown if McQueary will testify at Friday's hearing in Harrisburg involving Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, who face perjury charges for allegedly not recounting McQueary's claims to a grand jury.
 ::snipping2::
Video at Link


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 07:05:27 PM
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/14/roundup-of-sex-abuse-allegations-penn-state-the-citadel-syracuse-oklahoma/
Roundup of sex-abuse allegations: Penn State, The Citadel, Syracuse, Oklahoma
December 14, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 08:03:57 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/15/us-crime-coach-pennstate-idUSTRE7BE02720111215
Sandusky lawyer waived preliminary hearing to avoid bail hike
By Dave Warner
December 14, 2011

(Reuters) - The attorney for former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky said on Wednesday that he waived the right to a preliminary hearing in the child sexual abuse case to stop prosecutors from asking for a bail increase that could send his client back to jail.

Sandusky, 67, who faces some 50 counts of abuse, posted $250,000 bail to get out of jail last week and is under house arrest at his State College, Pennsylvania, home monitored by an electronic ankle bracelet.

He was scheduled for a preliminary hearing Tuesday in Common Pleas Court in Bellefonte, Pennsylvania, but at the last minute the defense waived its right to the hearing and opted instead to take the case directly to trial sometime next year.

"Jerry doesn't have a whole lot of money left," attorney Joseph Amendola told Reuters.

Sandusky paid his $250,000 bail last week by putting up his house as collateral as well as $50,000 in cash, Amendola said.

The prosecutor intended to raise the bail after the start of the preliminary hearing, at which some of the 10 men who say Sandusky abused them as children were expected to testify, Amendola said.

"He was going to ask the judge to increase the bail," Amendola said of the prosecutor. "I expected it would be substantial."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 08:39:37 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11348/1196937-100.stm
Sandusky attorney said he cut bail deal with AG
December 14,2011

The attorney for Jerry Sandusky said today that his client waived his preliminary hearing Tuesday as part of an agreement with prosecutors to not raise his bail.

Attorney Joseph Amendola's decision to waive the hearing surprised some legal observers.

In a statement released today, Mr. Amendola said the decision was part of an arrangement with the state attorney general's office, which is prosecuting the case, to keep his bail at $250,000.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 09:09:05 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11348/1196799-100.stm
Penn State names new vice president to succeed Schultz
December 14, 2011

A Penn State University graduate with experience in higher education and budget issues has been named senior vice president for finance and business, succeeding Gary Schultz, the former administrator charged with perjury and failure to report child abuse in the Jerry Sandusky scandal.
David J. Gray's appointment, announced today, will become effective Feb. 6.
 ::snipping2::
His predecessor, Mr. Schultz, returned to retirement last month after the Sandusky case broke.

Prosecutors say that Mr. Schultz, 62, tried to mislead the grand jury investigating allegations that Mr. Sandusky, the former defensive coordinator for Penn State's football team, molested young boys between 1994 and 2009.








Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
This is good news, imo.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/tweeting_expected_to_be_allowe.html
Tweeting expected to be allowed at Curley and Schultz preliminary hearings
By Joe Elias, The Patriot-News
December 14, 2011

HARRISBURG — Dauphin County President Judge Todd A. Hoover is expected to issue an order today allowing tweeting, texting and email use during the preliminary hearings Friday of two top Penn State University officials charged as part of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse case.

Dauphin County Common Pleas Court Administrator Carolyn Thompson said the order is expected to be similar to the one issued by a McKean County Senior Judge that allowed for real-time updates by media at Sandusky’s preliminary hearing on Tuesday in Centre County.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 14, 2011, 10:22:17 PM
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpps/news/penn-state-trustee-expects-to-complete-probe-by-mid-may-dpgapx-20111214-kh_16389133
Penn State Trustee Expects to Complete Probe by Mid-May
December 14, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 15, 2011, 01:43:46 AM
http://www.nj.com/njvoices/index.ssf/2011/12/the_suspected_pedophiles_wife.html

Suspected pedophiles' spouses: What's their role?

Not sure I agree with the excuses given in this article.

Kittymom, we were posting the same article at the same time, but I was adding in some commentary.  It's still hard for me to believe just how much my Mom was in denial.
How long was your dad in the hospital?  My m-i-l had Alzheimers for years and my hubby would excuse her behavior right up the day she died.  I agree with your comments of it being a coping tool.  Even her doctors called it Alzheimers.  Her meds included 3 different types of Alzheimers drugs.  But, if she did something strange in front of people who weren't around her that much hubby would lie about why she was doing it.  When his siblings were around they would have deep discussions on the effects of the drugs on her Alzheimers and what parts of her life she could no longer remember.  The sad part is that it was cancer that took her.  Cancer that she never knew she had because she couldn't remember that she'd gotten it again.  So, as hubby will now say, the Alzheimers was a blessing in disguise.  It took her mind before she could become fearful of her third battle with cancer.

Back to Sandusky. It would be one thing if the abuse was only for a couple of years, but this guy has been abusing kids for many years, in his home.  He had the basement area as the 'room' for visiting boys and even fed them there, per testimony.  After a while, denial gives way to turning a blind eye.  Sort of like knowing your spouse has an alcohol or drug issue.  You suspect for a period of time until you just have to accept that something isn't right.  That questionable behavior can't be ignored forever.  Then you have to decide what you'll do....begin to cover for spouse by calling in sick for him, making excuses to family and friends, or manipulating your finances so that spouse doesn't spend it all on booze or drugs.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 15, 2011, 01:45:48 AM
What?!   ::MonkeyEek::  Really?  THIS is how they plan to defend Jerry?  Jerry's legal team is going to portray him as "mentally and emotionally" more on par with a teenager? 

morgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/14/sanduskys-lawyer-i-believe-that-mentally-and-emotionally-he-is-much-more-on-par-with-a-teenager/?hpt=pm_mid
Sandusky's lawyer: "I believe that mentally and emotionally he is much more on par with a teenager"
December 14, 2011



WHAT????  Are they going to parade a line of doctors in there to say the guy is a teenager at heart and was just experimenting with his sexuality?  I swear these bottom feeders just make me sick.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 15, 2011, 01:48:28 AM
Oh, for Pete's sake!!!  An adult wouldn't need to be naked in a shower after hours with a young boy who was also naked to teach the boy hygiene.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Only an attorney on Jerry Sandusky's defense team could think that one up.  It looks like ole' Jer is in deep if this is the direction the defense is going.  Earlier it was that Jerry was "mentally and intellectually" more like a teenager than a man in his 60's.  I find it horrifying if any jurors are going to be that gullible and believe this hogwash.  JMHO

http://www.abc27.com/story/16319215/carlise-attorney-hired-by-sandusky
Attorney: Sandusky may have been teaching kids to shower
Posted December 13, 2011 Updated December 14, 2011

HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) -

A Carlisle attorney who has joined Jerry Sandusky's defense team says the former Penn State assistant football coach may have showered with young boys because the children lacked basic hygiene skills.

Sandusky is accused of molesting ten boys he met through The Second Mile charity he founded for troubled youth.

"Some of these kids don't have basic hygiene skills," attorney Karl Rominger said. "Teaching a person to shower at the age of 12 or 14 sounds strange to some people, but people who work with troubled youth will tell you there are a lot of juvenile delinquents and people who are dependent who have to be taught basic life skills like how to put soap on their body."
 ::snipping2::
I would never have believed that 12 people in Fl would let KC Anthony off so I'm afraid that these attys have been tutoring under Bozo on defense strategy. I'm loosing faith in the integrity of mankind.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 06:54:15 AM
Oh, for Pete's sake!!!  An adult wouldn't need to be naked in a shower after hours with a young boy who was also naked to teach the boy hygiene.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Only an attorney on Jerry Sandusky's defense team could think that one up.  It looks like ole' Jer is in deep if this is the direction the defense is going.  Earlier it was that Jerry was "mentally and intellectually" more like a teenager than a man in his 60's.  I find it horrifying if any jurors are going to be that gullible and believe this hogwash.  JMHO

http://www.abc27.com/story/16319215/carlise-attorney-hired-by-sandusky
Attorney: Sandusky may have been teaching kids to shower
Posted December 13, 2011 Updated December 14, 2011

HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) -

A Carlisle attorney who has joined Jerry Sandusky's defense team says the former Penn State assistant football coach may have showered with young boys because the children lacked basic hygiene skills.

Sandusky is accused of molesting ten boys he met through The Second Mile charity he founded for troubled youth.

"Some of these kids don't have basic hygiene skills," attorney Karl Rominger said. "Teaching a person to shower at the age of 12 or 14 sounds strange to some people, but people who work with troubled youth will tell you there are a lot of juvenile delinquents and people who are dependent who have to be taught basic life skills like how to put soap on their body."
 ::snipping2::
I would never have believed that 12 people in Fl would let KC Anthony off so I'm afraid that these attys have been tutoring under Bozo on defense strategy. I'm loosing faith in the integrity of mankind.

BBM
You hit the nail right on the head KittyMom.  It was the jury from Casey Anthony's trial I had in mind when I posted too.  Scary stuff.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 09:57:46 AM
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20111215mike_mcqueary_likely_to_testify_in_hearing_for_former_penn_state_administrators/srvc=home&position=recent
Mike McQueary likely to testify in hearing for former Penn State administrators
By Mike Dawson / McClatchy Newspapers
December 15, 2011

(3 pg. article)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 01:14:22 PM
Deal or no deal?  Joe Amendola, your statement was more than "misleading", imo.  I loved the comment, btw.   :smt081

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11348/1196937-100.stm
Sandusky attorney said he cut bail deal with AG
December 14,2011

The attorney for Jerry Sandusky said today that his client waived his preliminary hearing Tuesday as part of an agreement with prosecutors to not raise his bail.

Attorney Joseph Amendola's decision to waive the hearing surprised some legal observers.

In a statement released today, Mr. Amendola said the decision was part of an arrangement with the state attorney general's office, which is prosecuting the case, to keep his bail at $250,000.
 ::snipping2::



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/jerry-sandusky-lawyer-joe-amendola-scrambles-defense-penn-state-coordinator-public-article-1.991814?pgno=1
Jerry Sandusky's lawyer Joe Amendola scrambles on defense of former Penn State coordinator
Amendola says his statement to Ann Curry was misleading

BY Teri Thompson & Michael O'keeffe
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

 ::snipping2::
Amendola, frequently criticized for allowing Sandusky to sit for what turned out to be awkward interviews with NBC and The New York Times and other unorthodox legal maneuvers, continued to stumble in public when he suggested to Ann Curry on “Today” that prosecutors had agreed not to raise Sandusky’s bail as “concession” for waiving the hearing.
“There was no deal, and there was no quid pro quo,” said Marc Costanzo, a senior deputy attorney general. “We were ready to proceed with our case on Tuesday morning.”


Amendola issued a statement on Wednesday that acknowledged that his statement was misleading. The government, he said, did not offer any concessions if Sandusky skipped the preliminary hearing. “The discussion concerning the waiver of the preliminary hearing was not initiated by the Commonwealth attorney,” the statement said.

But the threat of asking the judge to raise Sandusky’s bail remains a powerful tool for prosecutors, who asked the judge for $1 million bail when Sandusky was arraigned on the 12 latest of his 52 charges.

Amendola, according to Daily News legal analyst Tom Harvey, might have a consideration in mind: If Sandusky, 67, is jailed now, it is possible he would in effect be serving a life sentence if he is convicted at trial.

“Amendola would have a choice,” Harvey said. “He could go to his client and say it (1) would be nice to hear the testimony of any inconsistencies in the testimonies of the victims, or (2) once you go to jail, you may never come out. Let him have the last months of freedom.”

Sandusky is accused of sexually abusing 10 victims during a 15-year period. Additional victims may also come forward.

“Jerry has always said he wants to defend these charges. The hearing would have been a feeding frenzy, they would have heard the worst of the worst of the commonwealth’s witnesses, we would not be able to cross examine them about credibility,” Amendola told NBC. “We had very little to gain and (we got) a lot in return, including unless he violates his bail provisions he’s going to be out of jail helping me prepare his defense until his trial.”
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savingtess

02:51 AM
Dec 15, 2011

as opposed to what, starting the climb from the middle of mount everest? what? do they drop people there from planes? this is the dumbest mother *** lawyer I have seen since boob baez. i don't know I'm just speechless over his lack of credulity.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 03:26:46 PM
http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/report-prosecution-ready-to-proceed-with-curley-schultz-hearings-962076/
Report: Prosecution Ready to Proceed with Curley, Schultz Hearings
By Adam Smeltz
December 15, 2011

Despite public questions about Mike McQueary's credibility, state prosecutors are fully ready to proceed with preliminary hearings Friday for Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, a spokesman told the Allentown Morning Call.

"We're not going to debate unsourced media accounts that infer various things, because none of them are testimony, and none of them are statements made under oath," state Office of Attorney General spokesman Nils Frederiksen told the newspaper.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 03:38:17 PM
The media is sinking to new lows.  How in the world is a man headed for trial for that includes 10 victims and charged with 52 counts considered "intriguing"?  Child rape is intriguing? 

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2011/12/no-joke-sandusky-on-people-25-most-intriguing-list-for-2011-people-magazine-penn-state-university-joe-paterno/1
No joke: Sandusky on People's most 'intriguing' list
By Michael McCarthy, USA TODAY
December 15, 2011

Accused child rapist Jerry Sandusky has been named one of the 25 most "intriguing" people of 2011 by People magazine.

The ex-defensive coordinator at Penn State University will be one of 25 personalities featured in a special double issue hitting newsstands Dec. 16, along with Prince William and Kate Middleton, Gabrielle Giffords and Charlie Sheen, according to an announcement today from People.

Sandusky's charged with over 50 counts of sexually abusing kids he met through his Second Mile charity.

The year-end issue will also have a "Hall of Shame." But Sandusky, who cost Nittany Lions coaching legend Joe Paterno his job, is not in it.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 03:40:13 PM
This comes as no surprise, imo.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-12-15/ncaa-probe-sandusky-penn-state/51970630/1
Penn State formally requests more time from NCAA
December 15, 2011


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
http://twitter.com/vinniepolitan (http://twitter.com/vinniepolitan)

VinniePolitan Vinnie Politan
Jerry Sandusky's new defense team member says Sandusky was just trying to teach the boys how to bathe in the shower...
3 hours ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 06:39:34 PM
Another "misunderstanding"?  Last time it was a "misunderstanding" about waiving the pre-trial hearing.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/jerry-sandusky-lawyer-joe-amendola-scrambles-defense-penn-state-coordinator-public-article-1.991814?pgno=1
Jerry Sandusky's lawyer Joe Amendola scrambles on defense of former Penn State coordinator
Amendola says his statement to Ann Curry was misleading


And now for the latest explanation.  This time it's not a "misunderstanding", but something "taken out of context".   ::MonkeyRoll:: Maybe they saw how much negative feedback there was from their ridiculous statements  it's time for CYA.  JMHO I'm still waiting to see how they explain Jerry as being mentally and intellectually" more like a teen than a 60 year old man.  I've seen no retractions or explanations yet, so maybe they're going to go with that for his defense?!  

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/15/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky/
Sandusky's lawyer says media took showering comments 'out of context'
December 15, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Karl Rominger recently joined the defense team of Jerry Sandusky, who prosecutors say sexually abused 10 young boys over a 14-year period. The 67-year-old former defense coordinator has pleaded not guilty to more than 50 related charges.

Sandusky has admitted showering and having "horsed around" with boys, though he's denied any sexual activity with his accusers.

On Tuesday, Rominger brought up the idea of an adult showering with young children during an interview with CNN affiliate WHTM.
 
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 06:47:35 PM
One of the newer additions to Jerry Sandusky's stable of defense attorneys has already managed to stick his foot in his mouth.  I'm starting to wonder if, when the trial is through and if Jerry is found guilty, if he's going to use the excuse he had poor legal representation as the need for a new trial.   :scratch: With a defense attorney like this, the prosecutor's job is being made easier, imo.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/15/4125899/sandusky-lawyer-shower-comments.html
Sandusky lawyer: shower comments not about client
December 15, 2011

CARLISLE, Pa. -- An attorney for former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky says his recent comments about some children needing instruction on how to shower did not apply to his client's conduct.

Carlisle attorney Karl Rominger said during an interview with WHTM-TV earlier this week that troubled youths sometimes have to be taught basic life skills "like how to put soap on their body."

Rominger said in a statement Thursday that he only was giving a hypothetical example of why a person might shower with an adolescent. He noted he never said Sandusky touched boys in a shower.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 07:25:25 PM
Last time I checked, there were 96 comments on this article.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/12/attorney-sandusky-might-have-been-teaching-kids-hygiene/1
Attorney: Sandusky might have been teaching kids hygiene
By Nicole Auerbach, USA TODAY
December 15, 2011

A new lawyer on Jerry Sandusky's legal team offered up an interesting possible explanation for the former Penn State defensive coordinator's habits of showering with young boys.

"Some of these kids don't have basic hygiene skills," attorney Karl Rominger, who recently joined Sandusky's defense team, told Harrisburg's abc27 News Tuesday. "Teaching a person to shower at the age of 12 or 14 sounds strange to some people, but people who work with troubled youth will tell you there are a lot of juvenile delinquents and people who are dependent who have to be taught basic life skills, like how to put soap on their body."

Sandusky has admitted to showering with boys, but claims he has not sexually abused them. Rominger said his college cross country coach often showered with the team.
 ::snipping2::
UPDATE 3:48 pm.: Rominger released a statement Thursday, suggesting his comments were taken out of context.

Rominger's statement:


    When answering why a person might be in a shower with a youth, I proposed one hypothetical, such as an adult leading by example and encouraging a youth with bad or poor hygiene to shower regularly.

    Some commentators have argued that I am saying that Mr. Sandusky showered with youths and touched them inappropriately for the purpose of teaching them how to shower. That is not what I said.

    First, there's no evidence of inappropriate touching in a shower, except for discredited statements from the grand jury presentment. Further, Jerry has maintained his innocence and denies any sexual touching or inappropriate touching in the shower.

    Therefore, I would like to clarify that I am not suggesting that this is what happened in this case, but was answering questions about possible motivations an individual might have for an adult to shower with a juvenile.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: flamom on December 15, 2011, 07:36:23 PM
Hi Muffybee!!  ::hohohosanta::
I am glad his attorney is a mo mo.. I just hope it doesn't work in his favor EVER!
I find sex crimes against children especially evil because it robs the little victims of so much and Dr Drew has said that trauma at an early age alters the brain and it's chemistry, leaving the victims forever changed and their innocence lost...
I had an idyllic and safe childhood full of wonderful memories. Every child deserves that...


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
Hi Muffybee!!  ::hohohosanta::
I am glad his attorney is a mo mo.. I just hope it doesn't work in his favor EVER!
I find sex crimes against children especially evil because it robs the little victims of so much and Dr Drew has said that trauma at an early age alters the brain and it's chemistry, leaving the victims forever changed and their innocence lost...
I had an idyllic and safe childhood full of wonderful memories. Every child deserves that...

ITA with you Flamom.  It's good to see you!  ::bee::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 08:55:27 PM
http://www.wnep.com/wnep-schultz-and-curley-preliminary-hearing-20111215,0,7055042.story
Schultz and Curley Preliminary Hearing
By Scott Schaffer
December 15, 2011

 ::snipping2::
Former Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley and the school's Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz were each charged with perjury for allegedly lying to the grand jury and failure to report the alleged abuse by Jerry Sandusky.

Their preliminary hearing is set for Friday morning at the Dauphin County Courthouse in Harrisburg, and the media mob is already descending on the capital city.
 ::snipping2::

We will be in the courtroom for Friday's hearing beginning at 9 a.m.

You can follow Jim Hamill’s tweets from the courthouse: at Jim Hamill, and also on our website at wnep.com.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 08:56:51 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 09:41:11 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/jerry_sandusky_hearing_cost_co.html
Jerry Sandusky hearing cost Centre County, Bellefonte up to $21,700
December 15, 2011

While all expenses are not yet known, including closing the courthouse down for the day, officials have tabulated Bellefonte and Centre County costs at around $21,700 so far. This excludes costs to surrounding municipalities and the state.

According to a Centre Daily Times report, much of the cost was accrued in planning for the media frenzy surrounding the hearing. The biggest expense was wages; for Bellefonte, this meant $4,700 in police and public works overtime.

"Had we not been able to reach out to our neighbors, other local governments, to assist us, our numbers would have been astronomical," Bellefonte manager Ralph Stewart said.

The county estimates its costs at approximately $17,000.

This is only a preview for local authorities of the possible cost of Sandusky's trial.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2011, 09:45:17 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-penn-state-20111216,0,4955537.story
Inconsistency in Mike McQueary's story presents opportunity for Penn State defendants
Former university officials Timothy Curley and Gary Schultz will appear in court Friday on charges of perjury and failure to act after Mike McQueary reported an alleged incident involving former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky and a young boy.

By Peter Hall, Allentown Morning Call
December 15, 2011



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 15, 2011, 09:52:45 PM
One of the newer additions to Jerry Sandusky's stable of defense attorneys has already managed to stick his foot in his mouth.  I'm starting to wonder if, when the trial is through and if Jerry is found guilty, if he's going to use the excuse he had poor legal representation as the need for a new trial.   :scratch: With a defense attorney like this, the prosecutor's job is being made easier, imo.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/15/4125899/sandusky-lawyer-shower-comments.html
Sandusky lawyer: shower comments not about client
December 15, 2011

CARLISLE, Pa. -- An attorney for former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky says his recent comments about some children needing instruction on how to shower did not apply to his client's conduct.

Carlisle attorney Karl Rominger said during an interview with WHTM-TV earlier this week that troubled youths sometimes have to be taught basic life skills "like how to put soap on their body."

Rominger said in a statement Thursday that he only was giving a hypothetical example of why a person might shower with an adolescent. He noted he never said Sandusky touched boys in a shower.
 ::snipping2::

Now see, this has me wondering just how many adolescents this atty has 'taught' how to shower?   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 08:58:16 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
Seated in courtroom for #PSUCharges hearing amongst all the other interested parties in Harrisburg for the day. Curley/Schultz inside. @wnep
31 minutes ago



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 09:02:01 AM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7359173/former-penn-state-nittany-lions-vice-president-gary-schultz-athletic-director-tim-curley-arrive-perjury-hearing
Gary Schultz, Tim Curley face judge
December 16, 2011


 ::snipping2::
Gary Schultz and Tim Curley arrived at a Pennsylvania courthouse for their preliminary hearing Friday morning. They were charged with perjury and failure to report child abuse in early November, on the same day former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky was accused of child sex abuse.

Schultz was a vice president at the university and had overseen the campus police. Curley was the university's long-serving athletic director. Since they were arrested six weeks ago, Schultz has retired and Curley has been on administrative leave. Both maintain their innocence.

The hearing in Dauphin County court in Harrisburg requires the attorney general's office to prove there is a minimum of evidence to support the charges, a relatively low bar and a proceeding that defendants have the right to waive. Sandusky, the school's retired assistant football coach, is charged with 52 criminal counts accusing him of molesting 10 boys. He says he is innocent.

The Penn State assistant coach at the heart of the perjury case arrived at the court shortly after Schultz and Curley on Friday. Mike McQueary declined to speak to reporters as he entered the courthouse.
McQueary told the grand jury he saw Sandusky attacking a boy in the shower.

Curley and Schultz gave different accounts, and are charged with not properly alerting law enforcement when McQueary contacted them.

To support the perjury charges, prosecutors must show probable cause the two men lied and that the lies were intentional and material to the case.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 09:23:15 AM
Edit to add:  These tweets are from Jim Hamill of WNEP, who is at the pre-trial hearing of Gary Schultz and Tim Curley.  The tweets are being posted in real time. 


http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Opened door to locker room and entered. I heard rhythmic slapping sounds. 2 or 3 slaps skin on skin. I was already alarmed...
1 minute ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Bought tennis shoes earlier that day and wanted to put them in my locker (...) Went to the support staff locker room. @wnep #PSU
3 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary establishes Curley as #PSU AD while he served as asst coach. March 2002, AG asks to describe anything unusual happening. @wnep
4 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary recollects his education, time playing for Joe Paterno's football team. Returned as employee in 2003, but Grad Asst Coach prior.
6 minutes ago
»
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
First up, Mike McQueary. Dark blue suit, light blue tie. Makes his way to witness stand and is sworn in for testimony. #PSUCharges @wnep
7 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
Aaaand we have a hearing. Curley/Schultz in respective seats as MDJ Wenner assumes bench, def waive reading of complaint. #PSUCharges @wnep
8 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
Curley/Schultz/Atty's/AG in place in courtroom for #PSUCharges hearing in Harrisburg. Instructions being read to assembled media and public.
9 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
Seated in courtroom for #PSUCharges hearing amongst all the other interested parties in Harrisburg for the day. Curley/Schultz inside. @wnep
59 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 09:30:44 AM
Edit to add:  These tweets are from Jim Hamill of WNEP, who is at the pre-trial hearing of Gary Schultz and Tim Curley.  The tweets are being posted in real time. 

http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Witnessed #Sandusky molesting the boy. Some type of intercourse is what I saw. #PSUCharges @wnep
1 minute ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: All I heard was the showers running (when peered into showers). Never heard a word said from #Sandusky or boy. #PSUCharges @wnep
1 minute ago
The Daily Collegian
DailyCollegian The Daily Collegian
by JimHamill
McQueary: "Based on the positioning, I didn't see insertion nor was there screaming or yelling..but thats truly what I believe." #PSUCharges
3 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: The boy looked prepubescent, 10 years old. He definitely appeared to be 10 or 12 yo boy, roughly. No question was a child. @wnep
3 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary:I believe Jerry (#Sandusky) was sexually molesting the boy. There was no yelling, I can't say I know 100% sure there was sex.
4 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
(CONT) #McQueary: what he saw. The boy was up against the wall, facing the wall, hands shoulder height on the wall Jerry was directly behind
5 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Saw #Sandusky "shockingly and surprisingly" with boy in the shower. Boy had his hands up against the wall. Made sure he saw...
6 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Opened door to locker room and entered. I heard rhythmic slapping sounds. 2 or 3 slaps skin on skin. I was already alarmed...
9 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 09:40:09 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.

http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill
 (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Decision was to call #Paterno and tell him what I saw. #PSUCharges @wnep
2 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
(CONT) "#McQueary to father: I saw Coach #Sandusky in shower with boy, what I saw was wrong and sexual and I need advice. Proceeded to house
3 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: I really didn't know what to do. Someone I respected in my life, and wanted to get advice from, I called (my father). CONT
4 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: I was distraught. Went directly to my office upstairs and called my father. #PSUCharges
5 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: I know they saw me, they looked directly in my eyes. Seeing separation, I thought it was best to leave locker room and left
6 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Their bodies were turned facing me, 4-5 feet apart on third look. Did not go into the shower or say anything to them. #PSUCharges
7 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Slammed locker door shut. Took risky movement toward shower, looked in again. They had separated by that time. #PSUCharges @wnep
8 minutes ago
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Witnessed #Sandusky molesting the boy. Some type of intercourse is what I saw. #PSUCharges @wnep
10 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 09:47:07 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary gives impression he spent time preparing testimony for today's #PSUCharges hearing. 30 minutes on stand so far. @wnep
2 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: #JoePa was shocked and saddened, slumped in his chair. "Sorry you had to see that, it's terrible. Need to tell some ppl..." @wnep
4 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: I saw something that was IMO was outrageous and terrible. He (#Paterno) deserved to know about it. #PSUCharges @wnep
4 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Did not describe in very much detail to #Paterno. Made clear it was young boy w/ #Sandusky. Made clear was sexual. #PSUCharges
5 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Sat at #Paterno's kitchen table, told him I saw #Sandusky with boy in shower, over the line, sexual in nature, needed to tell him
6 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Went home and slept. Got up the next day and called #JoePa 7:30-8:00am. Said "Coach, need to come to your house and talk.." @wnep
7 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Decision was to call #Paterno and tell him what I saw. #PSUCharges @wnep
9 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 09:50:59 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Meeting with Curley/Schultz at Bryce Jordan Ctr. Discussed details of what I saw (#Sandusky in shower with boy, sexual, wrong)
52 seconds ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Discussion with Curley was 9-10 days after witnessing shower scene involving boy and #Sandusky @wnep #PSUCharges
3 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Subsequent phone call w/ Curley revealed info passed along from #Paterno to Curley/Schultz. @wnep #PSUCharges
4 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 09:56:25 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)


JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Curley/Schultz said they would investigate and follow up with me. No doubt at all I witnessed sexual act #PSUCharges @wnep.
55 seconds ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary needs refill on H2O. Court tip staff fills cup again. @wnep
2 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: I did say I heard slapping sounds during discussion with Curley/Schultz. Made it clear it was in shower, both were naked @wnep.
3 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 09:58:44 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill
 (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: I accepted what he had told me, and said OK. @wnep
1 minute ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Curley called me 4-5 days later after discussion, said they contacted Second Mile and told #Sandusky to not have kids around #PSU
2 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: In my mind it was like speaking to a District Attorney (in speaking with Schultz who was head of #PSU police). @wnep. #PSUCharges
3 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 10:03:42 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
Last tweet -- in regards to discussions #McQueary had with Curley/Schultz.
1 minute ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: no question in my mind that I conveyed I saw Jerry with boy in showers and severe sexual acts going on, wrong and over the line.
2 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Coach #Paterno asked several times about my well being after seeing what I saw. #Sandusky #PSUCharges @wnep
2 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Knowing what i saw, found #Sandusky's presence on #PSU campus wrong. Never spoke with Curley/Schultz again about incident. @wnep
3 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: I accepted what he had told me, and said OK. @wnep
6 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: Curley called me 4-5 days later after discussion, said they contacted Second Mile and told #Sandusky to not have kids around #PSU
6 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: In my mind it was like speaking to a District Attorney (in speaking with Schultz who was head of #PSU police). @wnep. #PSUCharges
8 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 10:18:34 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS -- #McQueary: Went directly to the showers. Wooden door to showers swings open. No lock. Closes by itself. Hesitated when heard noises
3 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS from Atty for Curley: #McQueary responds to questions relating to his position as Graduate Assistant. Who occupied what office. @wnep
12 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary: To me, #Sandusky was the Second Mile. At the time it was his pride and joy. A foundation to help underprivileged youth. @wnep
16 minutes ago


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 10:22:22 AM
For those wanting to follow the pre-trial live:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/tim-curley-gary-schultz-penn-state-/1
Live: McQueary testifies he saw Sandusky with boy in shower

Updated 9:41 a.m.: McQueary said over time that evening his decision was to tell Joe Paterno what he saw. When asked why he told Paterno, McQueary said, "He's the head coach and he needs to know what's happening in there," USA TODAY's Audrey Snyder reports.

Updated 9:30 a.m.: "I know they saw me. They both looked directly in my eyes, both of them," McQueary said on the stand. McQueary's mom is on verge of tears in the back of the room, USA TODAY's Audrey Snyder reports. McQueary said: "I believe they were having some kind of intercourse. He moved toward shower and Sandusky separated from the boy. He didn't say anything and left. I was distraught. I was horrified" -- from USA TODAY's Kevin Johnson.

Updated 9:28 a.m.: "No question at all" when asked if it was a child in the shower with Jerry, USA TODAY's Audrey Snyder reports from the courtroom.

Updated 9:25 a.m.: McQueary testified that he heard 'rhythmic slapping sounds' as he entered locker room. Said he saw boy with hands on shower wall with Jerry's arms wrapped around waist, from USA TODAY's Kevin Johnson.

Updated 9:21 a.m.: McQueary says "I did not see insertion or hear screaming or yelling," USA TODAY's Audrey Snyder reports from the courtroom.

Updated 9:17 a.m.: McQueary is now describing the night of the alleged attack.

Updated 9:13 a.m.: Assistant football coach McQueary takes stand against Penn State officials. McQueary is the only known adult to tell grand jurors that he witnessed former football coach Jerry Sandusky sexually abusing a child, AP reports.

Updated 9:12 a.m.: McQueary, wearing a black suit, is being sworn in.

Updated 9:07 a.m.: Ex-Penn State officials Tim Curley and Gary Schultz appear in the Pa. courtroom, USA TODAY's Kevin Johnson reports.

Updated 9:03 a.m.: Both of McQueary's parents are in the courtroom, says Audrey Snyder, also reporting live for USA TODAY from Dauphin County Court in Pennsylvania.

Updated 8:02 a.m.: McQueary arrives at the courthouse where ex-Penn State officials Tim Curley and Gary Schultz are set to appear for a preliminary hearing, reports USA TODAY's Kevin Johnson who will be filing live from the courtroom.

Updated 8:41 a.m.: Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary declines to speak to reporters as he enters the courthouse in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, the AP reports. The preliminary hearing will start at 9 a.m. at Dauphin County Court.
CAPTION
By Bradley C. Bower, AP
Ex-Penn State officials Curley and Schulz arrived earlier at the Pennsylvania courthouse, the AP reports.

Original post:The hearing for former Penn State University Athletic Director Tim Curley and former Senior Vice President Gary Schultz on Friday comes three days after the primary suspect in the child abuse investigation, Jerry Sandusky, waived his right to a preliminary hearing.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 10:27:36 AM

Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary gets 3rd refill on H2O. Curley atty Roberto peppering him with questions trying to pin down exactly what was said throughout @wnep
1 minute ago
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CROSS -- #McQueary: In that first look through the mirror, I didn't know what to think. I wasn't sure I was seeing what I was seeing. @wnep
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CROSS: Did you do anything, say anything, to let people in the shower know you were there? #McQueary: No, I looked in the mirror. @wnep.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 10:43:40 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57344172/psus-mcqueary-i-saw-sex-abuse-told-paterno/


Who's who in the Penn State child sex abuse scandal

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10010165.html
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Jerry Sandusky, former defensive coordinator
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Joe Paterno, head coach
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Mike McQueary, receivers coach, recruiting coordinator
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Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 10:47:51 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10010165-4.html
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Graham Spanier, university president
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Tim Curley, athletic director
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Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 10:49:42 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS -- #McQueary: I did not ever say "you need to do more." (to Curley) #PSUCharges @wnep
1 minute ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
(Cont...) sounds & extremely sexual act and I think it was intercourse. Curley said he would follow up with him. #McQueary #PSUCharges
4 minutes ago
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JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS -- #McQueary answers series of Yes/No questions "yes" when it relates to what he saw. Told Curley he heard slapping (...Cont) @wnep
5 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS -- #McQueary: I told Coach #Paterno what I saw was "extremely sexual." I saw #Sandusky's arms wrapped around the boy @wnep #PSUCharges
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Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
While Def Attys cross examine #McQueary, here's a primer on what this hearing is all about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_facie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_facie) (Edit to fix link-MB)
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CROSS -- #McQueary: My father and I considered calling the police. But did not. + Atty for Curley trying to test recollection. @wnep
19 minutes ago
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CROSS -- #McQueary: Dr. Dranov was called by father, a longtime friend whose judgment was trusted. Sought advice to do the right thing.
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#McQueary gets 3rd refill on H2O. Curley atty Roberto peppering him with questions trying to pin down exactly what was said throughout @wnep
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 11:10:51 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS -- #McQueary: Did not report incident to police because it was "delicate in nature." @wnep #PSUCharges
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CROSS from Schultz's Atty begins 1:30 into #McQueary testimony. Line of questioning around security cameras at Lasch Building. @wnep
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 11:16:19 AM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill
 (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)


JimHamill Jim Hamill
#McQueary's testimony over. Steps down from witness stand carrying cup of H2O. #PSUCharges @wnep
1 minute ago
JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS -- #McQueary: No, neither men said you can't talk about this or anything like that. #PSUCharges @wnep
1 minute ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS -- #McQueary: Did not report incident to police because it was "delicate in nature." @wnep #PSUCharges
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Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS from Schultz's Atty begins 1:30 into #McQueary testimony. Line of questioning around security cameras at Lasch Building. @wnep
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 12:59:58 PM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
John McQueary: I told him Mike heard some sounds and knew someone else was in the building. Saw #Sandusky & boy in shower, think I said sex
1 hour ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
John McQueary: I know Mr. Schultz, he's a biz acquaintance of mine. Discussed with Schultz and Dr. Dranov what Mike had seen in shower @wnep
1 hour ago
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Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#PSU PD dir (Ret) Harmon is finished testifying. Next: Mike McQueary's father John McQueary. Sworn in and begins recounting 2002 incident.
1 hour ago
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CROSS -- #PSU PD dir (Ret): Few children who lived on campus. Did not have any discussion with Curley about '98 investigation. @wnep
1 hour ago
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ReDir -- #PSU PD dir (Ret): We seldom dealt with juvenile victims. AG: you did in '98? Harmon: Yes. @wnep #PSUCharges
1 hour ago
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CROSS -- #PSU PD dir (Ret): I don't recall having any discussion about the status of CYS in '98 investigation with Gary Schultz. @wnep
1 hour ago
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JimHamill Jim Hamill
CROSS -- #PSU PD dir (Ret): Mr. Schultz was not a police officer. Primary job was business and finance -budgets, anything relating to UnivPD
1 hour ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#PSU PD dir (Ret): Never received complaint in 2002 involving #Sandusky. Would have investigated if we had. Schultz never spoke of it. @wnep
1 hour ago
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#PSU PD dir (Ret): Centre Co DA reviewed case and won't pursue as criminal offense. That DA, Ray #Gricar, cannot testify today, he's missing
1 hour ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#PSU PD dir (Ret): There were 4 phone calls with Schultz pertaining to investigation of #Sandusky naked hugging of boy in shower. @wnep
1 hour ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#PSU PD dir (Ret): Incident involved showering after exercise, mother reported #Sandusky hugged the boy from the rear. Nothing sexual @wnep
1 hour ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
#PSU PD dir (Ret): Schultz was my boss. Had regular contact with him. Late Spring '98 had report from woman of #Sandusky incident w/ boy.
1 hour ago
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#PSUCharges -- Thomas Harmon takes stand. Was employed as police officer (Retired Director of #PSU police) @wnep
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 01:01:02 PM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill
 (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
Recess for 1.5 hrs. Phew. Be back after grub.
37 minutes ago
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JimHamill Jim Hamill
Final witness steps down, AG asks court to examine grand jury testimony (68 pages between Curley/Schultz).
38 minutes ago
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JimHamill Jim Hamill
Agent Sassano (PA Atty Gen): only reports involving #Sandusky at Centre Co CYS was from '98. #PSUCharges
39 minutes ago
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Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
PA Atty Gen agent says no report was made to CYS in Centre Co - check with PSU PD found no investigation done in 2002 in #Sandusky @wnep
41 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
PA Atty General agent takes stand as final brief witness for prosecution. #PSUCharges @wnep
44 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
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#PSUCharges Transcripts of #Paterno, Curley & Schultz statements to grand jury shown to court reporter. Entered into evidence. @wnep
45 minutes ago
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JimHamill Jim Hamill
#PSUCharges court reporter explains how Curley/Schultz were sworn in, under oath. You know... Law and Order stuff.
48 minutes ago
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JimHamill Jim Hamill
Court reporter who was working at grand jury in Jan 2011 takes stand as 4th witness. #PSUCharges @wnep She took testimony fm TC & GS.
50 minutes ago
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John McQueary finished with testimony. Could a recess (not like the one in grade school) be soon? #PSUCharges
53 minutes ago
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John McQueary's testimony surrounds conversations with Dr. Dranov about 2002 incident where his son Mike claims to have seen #Sandusky & boy
1 hour ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
Tune into @wnep and Newswatch 16 at Noon for a breakdown of this morning's testimony from @JonMeyerWNEP. #PSUCharges #McQueary
1 hour ago
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(...CONT) Schultz sed "there has been noise level, other allegations looked into before and never been able to unearth anything." - McQueary
1 hour ago
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JimHamill Jim Hamill
John McQueary: Schultz indicated they heard of allegations and aware of situation and looking into it. During exchange, (CONT...) @wnep
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 01:34:23 PM
At the time I'm posting this article, there are 67 comments.  They must have just let more comments through.  There are now 80.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-mcqueary-testifies-he-believes-he-saw-sandusky-molesting-boy-20111216,0,7436420.story
McQueary: 'Shocked, horrified, not thinking straight'
December 16, 2011




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 01:49:05 PM
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/12/focus_of_tim_curley_gary_schul.html
Focus of Tim Curley, Gary Schultz hearing will shift to grand jury testimonies of Curley, Schultz and Joe Paterno
Published: Friday, December 16, 2011, 1:06 PM     Updated: Friday, December 16, 2011, 1:17 PM

District Judge William Wenner has called a recess until 1:45 p.m. in the preliminary hearing for Penn State officials Tim Curley and Gary Schultz.

After the break, the hearing will shift to the grand jury testimonies of Curley, Schultz and former coach Joe Paterno. Court reporter Shannon Manderbach, who transcribed the testimonies of all three individuals, will be on the stand reading from about 90 pages of grand jury testimony.

The bulk of today's hearing is already in the books. McQueary told his story for the first time and stuck to it after coming under fire for telling several different versions of what he saw during a 2002 shower incident between Jerry Sandusky and a young boy. McQueary was the first witness called by the prosecution and was on the stand for about two hours.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 01:55:53 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57344256/mcqueary-act-was-over-so-i-didnt-go-to-cops/
McQueary: "Act was over" so I didn't go to cops
December 16, 2011

CBS/AP)

HARRISBURG, Pa. - Penn State assistant football coach Mike McQueary says he witnessed former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky molesting a boy but that he didn't call police because he was sure "the act was over."

McQueary was testifying Friday at a preliminary evidentiary hearing for two of his superiors at Penn State who are charged with perjury for allegedly lying to a grand jury in an attempt to cover up child sex abuse allegations against another coach, Jerry Sandusky.

Under cross-examination, McQueary answered a question that many observers had asked: Why didn't he call police on Sandusky?
He says it was because it was "delicate in nature" and that he tried to use his best judgment. He says he was "sure the act was over."

He says he later informally raised questions to people he worked with about why Sandusky was still allowed around the football program.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 16, 2011, 01:58:36 PM
I just opened the fox news website and saw this heading under Sandusky's pic...
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Penn State's McQueary testifies that he believes he saw Sandusky molesting boy, but unsure if it was intercourse

INTERCOURSE??????????????????  Really?????  A sex act with a 10 yr old could NEVER be described as 'intercourse'.  That implies a willing party.  I'm really disappointed in the media.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 02:01:10 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/tim-curley-gary-schultz-penn-state-/1
McQueary testifies he saw Sandusky with boy in shower
By Jessica Durando, USA TODAY
December 16, 2011

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Updated at 12:23 p.m. : Recess until 1:45 p.m. Shannon Manderbach, court reporter, and Anthony Sassan, from Pa. attorney general's office, testified.

Updated 12:04 p.m.: John McQueary is finished with his testimony and we have two more "short witnesses" they say, USA TODAY's Audrey Snyder reports.

Updated 11:59 a.m.: John said he related to Gary Schultz what his son had allegedly witnessed in the shower room involving Sandusky. He said he described Sandusky's behavior, as related by his son, as 'sexual in nature...and that something should be done about it.' -- reports USA TODAY's Kevin Johnson.

"I told him enough that I feel like he got the picture," John said. "I never used the word 'crime.'"

Updated 11:48 a.m.: John says he told Mike to report the incident to his boss, Joe Paterno.

Updated 11:42 a.m.: Mike McQueary's father, John, takes the stand. Harmon finished testifying after 22 minutes.

Updated 11:28 a.m.: Harmon says he felt Gary Schultz would follow up on the 1998 Sandusky incident. Other than Schultz, Harmon didn't talk to anyone else about it.

Updated 11:14 a.m.: Former Penn State police chief Tom Harmon takes the stand. Harmon was employed by Penn State University for 33 years. The McQueary testimony lasted for two hours and eight minutes, USA TODAY's Audrey Snyder reports.

Updated 11:12 a.m.: On why he did not call police on Sandusky, McQueary said it was "delicate in nature" and "I was sure the act was over."

"I would informally raise questions to people around me. I don't think Jerry should be working around here," McQueary said.

Updated 11:02 a.m.: Some details from USA TODAY's Kevin Johnson: Boy described as caucasian, pre-pubescent, 10-12 years-old. McQueary also acknowledged he left the locker room and left the boy with Sandusky. "I was sure the act was over."

Updated 10:59 a.m.: When asked if Sandusky had an erection, McQueary said, "I don't know. I don't look and stare down there."

Updated 10:50 a.m.: Defense attorney Thomas Farrell is now questioning McQueary. McQueary has testified for about an hour and 45 minutes already.
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 02:02:33 PM
I just opened the fox news website and saw this heading under Sandusky's pic...
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Penn State's McQueary testifies that he believes he saw Sandusky molesting boy, but unsure if it was intercourse

INTERCOURSE??????????????????  Really?????  A sex act with a 10 yr old could NEVER be described as 'intercourse'.  That implies a willing party.  I'm really disappointed in the media.

It's child rape imo.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 16, 2011, 02:06:59 PM
I just opened the fox news website and saw this heading under Sandusky's pic...
Quote
Penn State's McQueary testifies that he believes he saw Sandusky molesting boy, but unsure if it was intercourse

INTERCOURSE??????????????????  Really?????  A sex act with a 10 yr old could NEVER be described as 'intercourse'.  That implies a willing party.  I'm really disappointed in the media.

It's child rape imo.
ITA 
It shouldn't be sanitized and devalued.


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 02:07:38 PM
Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
#Paterno: I did tell Mike, you did what was right I'll refer your concerns to the right people. Talked to Tim Curley via phone. @wnep
1 minute ago
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JimHamill Jim Hamill
#Paterno grand jury testimony being read into the record. "He had seen a person (#Sandusky) fondling a young boy." @wnep #PSUCharges
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Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 16, 2011, 02:09:37 PM
IF JP was checking on McQueary's well being in the days following I want to know if he ever once asked after the well being of the child?

AND

IF JP really sat back in his chair and commented that he hated for McQueary to see the incident, then it sure sounds like JP knew what Sandusky was doing when he took those poor kids to the shower room.  Did not one of these men express concern for the boys?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 02:10:48 PM
IF JP was checking on McQueary's well being in the days following I want to know if he ever once asked after the well being of the child?

AND

IF JP really sat back in his chair and commented that he hated for McQueary to see the incident, then it sure sounds like JP knew what Sandusky was doing when he took those poor kids to the shower room.  Did not one of these men express concern for the boys?

Exactly!!



Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: KittyMom on December 16, 2011, 02:11:39 PM
I just opened the fox news website and saw this heading under Sandusky's pic...
Quote
Penn State's McQueary testifies that he believes he saw Sandusky molesting boy, but unsure if it was intercourse

INTERCOURSE??????????????????  Really?????  A sex act with a 10 yr old could NEVER be described as 'intercourse'.  That implies a willing party.  I'm really disappointed in the media.

It's child rape imo.
ITA 
It shouldn't be sanitized and devalued.
Quoting myself here....I'm not sure 'devalued' is the correct term I was looking for.  I'm trying to say that rape has a certain definition and calling it something with less victimizing power is a disservice to the victims.  KWIM?


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 02:17:58 PM
Transcripts are supposed to be available at some later time and the Grand Jury docs have been available, but  Jim Hamill of WNEP has been doing a great job of keeping us informed on what's going on in the courtroom with his tweets imo.  Thanks Jim!!

Tweets from Jim Hamill of WNEP at pre-trial hearing for Gary Schulz and Tom Curley.
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
Curley: I did not report it to the police because at the time I did not think it was a crime. @wnep #PSUCharges
1 minute ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
Curley: told #Sandusky I did not want him to use PSU workout facilities with children. @wnep
3 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
Curley: #McQueary did not indicate there was sexual conduct. Still informed Pres Spanier and Second Mile. Told #Sandusky of McQueary's story
4 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
Curley: informed Pres. Spanier of what we knew. #McQueary related there was horsing around that made him uncomfortable. Did not say sexual.
6 minutes ago
Jim Hamill
JimHamill Jim Hamill
Curley testimony to grand jury: Coach #Paterno called myself and Schultz, and we met with him. Met w/ #MQueary. Decided to report to 2ndmi.
7 minutes ago




Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 02:19:09 PM
I just opened the fox news website and saw this heading under Sandusky's pic...
Quote
Penn State's McQueary testifies that he believes he saw Sandusky molesting boy, but unsure if it was intercourse

INTERCOURSE??????????????????  Really?????  A sex act with a 10 yr old could NEVER be described as 'intercourse'.  That implies a willing party.  I'm really disappointed in the media.

It's child rape imo.
ITA 
It shouldn't be sanitized and devalued.
Quoting myself here....I'm not sure 'devalued' is the correct term I was looking for.  I'm trying to say that rape has a certain definition and calling it something with less victimizing power is a disservice to the victims.  KWIM?

Yes kittymom, I know what you mean and ITA. 


Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 02:36:13 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.ajc.com/sports/paterno-i-didnt-press-1261719.html
Paterno: I didn't press for details on Sandusky
By MARYCLAIRE DALE
The Associated Press
December 16, 2011

HARRISBURG, Pa. — Former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno told a grand jury earlier this year that he was told his ex-assistant Jerry Sandusky had done something of "a sexual nature" with a boy in 2002.
Paterno's testimony was read into the record Friday during a court hearing for two Penn State administrators. The pair are accused of lying to a grand jury.
 ::snipping2::

Paterno says he was told Sandusky had done something inappropriate with a child but that he didn't press McQueary for details because McQueary was very upset.





Title: Re: Fmr Penn State Coach Jerry Sandusky Chgd with 52 counts- Sexual Abuse of 10 Boys
Post by: MuffyBee on December 16, 2011, 03:32:43 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill (http://twitter.com/#!/jimhamill)

JimHamill Jim Hamill
Judge Wenner: Commonwealth has proven the