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Title: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 18, 2011, 01:21:31 PM
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/natalie-wood-autopsy-report



 ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/natalie-wood-autopsy-report-346198


NOVEMBER 18--Just in time for the 30th anniversary of Natalie Wood’s death, Los Angeles sheriff’s deputies have decided to take a new look at the actress’s November 1981 drowning off Catalina Island. The move was prompted by a book co-authored by the captain of the yacht on which Wood, her husband Robert Wagner, and actor Christopher Walken were partying.

The captain, Dennis Davern, contends that Wagner impeded his initial efforts to locate Wood after she went missing, and has claimed that the 81-year-old actor was “responsible” for his wife’s death.


snip
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/natalie-wood-autopsy-report-346198



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on November 18, 2011, 02:27:02 PM
Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/In%20the%20News/NWoodCirca1969.jpg)
Natalie Wood's death has been reopened as a homicide investigation, primarily because of a book written by the captain of the boat where Natalie Wood spent her last minutes ... a book suggesting foul play ... this according to sources close to the investigation.

We've learned Marti Rulli -- who co-authored the book -- has been in regular touch with the L.A. County Sheriff's Dept. over the last few months.  She has given Sheriff's investigators documents supporting material in her book, and we're told the Sheriff is so impressed he has assigned 2 full-time homicide detectives to the case.

In the book -- "Goodbye Natalie, Goodbye Splendour" -- Rulli and Splendour Captain Dennis Davern write about the night Natalie drowned.  They say before Natalie disappeared from the boat, she was drinking and taking Quaaludes with her husband, Robert Wagner and actor Christopher Walken.

According to the book, Wagner became enraged when he saw Wood and Walken speaking, and smashed a wine bottle, yelling at Walken, "What do you want to do, f**k my wife?  Is that what you want?" ::snipping2::

http://www.tmz.com/


I always though she was pushed over


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on November 18, 2011, 02:33:57 PM
Natalie Wood: A Tribute

By Dina-Marie Kulzer

Although she began her career as a child actress, Natalie Wood was never what you could call a "child star". There was no hint of the cutesy mannerisms of some of her contemporaries, but instead a sense of seriousness and intelligence beyond her years in her performances. She radiated warmth and grace in every scene. This was particularly evident when she played a war orphan refugee complete with a German accent opposite Orson Welles and Claudette Colbert in Tomorrow Is Forever at the age of eight. Her soft brown eyes reflected every emotion she conveyed on screen. Natalie was one of the few child stars that was able to make a successful transition into adult roles with no awkward period in between. Her explanation of this was: "I just went on working. I was always skinny and as I got older I could still play young girls and get by. I was never a child star like Shirley Temple. I always looked like an ordinary kid." Natalie's talent was far from ordinary. Orson Welles once said of his little co-star, "She was so good, she frightened me."

Natalie Wood was born Natalia Nikolaevna Zakharenko on July 20, 1938 in San Francisco, California. She was the child of Russian immigrants Nicholas and Maria Zaharenko (later changed to Gurdin, and Natalia changed to Natasha), the middle daughter between older sister Olga and younger sister Lana. Natalie made her film debut at the tender age of four. Unable to read yet, her sister Olga would read the lines to her and Natalie would memorize them. Her incredible career spanned almost 40 years.

 ::snipping2::

In 1969 Natalie married British producer Richard Gregson. Their short lived marriage produced one daughter, Natasha born in 1970 who is today an actress and the mirror image of her mother. Natalie divorced Gregson in 1971.

During her separation from Gregson, Natalie began to date Robert Wagner again. They re-discovered how much they loved and meant to each other. The Wagners re-married in 1972 aboard their yacht. Each having gone through analysis between their marriages, they approached this second marriage with new maturity and understanding. Natalie recalled: "When R.J. and I met ten years later, after our divorce, we were different people. It wasn't like going back to what we had before because we had both changed. We were still attracted to one another --there's always something about that first love. It was like getting to know a whole new person although somewhere in the back of your mind --you already knew them." ::snipping2::

Ironically, it was an accidental drowning that brought premature death to Natalie Wood on Thanksgiving weekend 1981 at the age of forty three, off the coast of Santa Catalina Island while aboard the Wagner's yacht "The Splendour", in the dark waters she was terrified of since childhood

The following Wednesday afternoon at Westwood Memorial Park author Thomas Thompson reassured those gathered to say their last farewell to Natalie Wood Wagner, as the Russian string instruments reminiscent of her heritage played softly in the back ground, "What a fabulous life she had!" and what a great lady she was.



http://www.classichollywoodbios.com/nataliewood.htm


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 02:50:14 PM
Seahorse started the first thread on the investigation into Natalie Wood's death, and Blonde opened a thread  in "News of the Day" not long after.  I've merged the threads, and by time/date default Seahorse's post (thread) is first.  I can think of still another couple places a thread could have been started.  ::MonkeyWink::  This is really big news, and I'm very interested in the investigation.  Thanks Seahorse & Blonde for bringing the articles.  ::bee::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on November 18, 2011, 02:54:22 PM
Thank You I saw their thread after I started one.
I never believed it was a accident never..


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 02:55:55 PM
Thank You I saw their thread after I started one.
I never believed it was a accident never..

Blonde, I agree with you.  I didn't believe it was an accident when it happened either. 


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on November 18, 2011, 03:05:56 PM
LANA WOOD: Ever since my sister Natalie's death, Robert Wagner has never given me a straight answer

 By Caroline Graham, Mail on Sunday LA Correspondent

Last updated at 3:10 AM on 6th December 2009

When Robert Wagner published his acclaimed autobiography late last year, it contained, for the first time, his definitive account of one of Hollywood's greatest and most speculated-upon tragedies - the drowning of his wife Natalie Wood.

. ::snipping2::

According to Wagner, on the night of November 29, 1981, an intoxicated Natalie staggered off to bed after he and Walken had a blazing alcohol-fuelled row. He says that she left their stateroom clad in a flimsy nightdress to secure an inflatable rubber dinghy that was banging against the side of the Splendour, slipped on an algae-covered step and tumbled into the water.

Nine hours later, the body of the woman who had captivated the world as the star of West Side Story, Rebel Without A Cause and Splendour In The Grass was found floating face down in the ocean by the US Coastguard, leaving Natalie's two daughters Courtney and Natasha without a mother.

After refusing to talk about the death of his wife for so long, his written explanation was, Wagner said, 'case closed' on the subject.  ::snipping2::

But for one woman, his account served only to reopen a painful wound that has festered for years.

'RJ has moved on with his life. But I feel like I lost a part of myself that night and I will never be able to fully rest easy until RJ tells the truth.'

She says she is particularly concerned by recent claims made by the captain of the Splendour, Dennis Davern, in a new book - Goodbye Natalie, Goodbye Splendour - in which he states that, far from retiring alone to her stateroom, he witnessed Natalie and Wagner embroiled in a furious row in their room.

Moreover, he says he heard the row continue out on to the open deck.

More at link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1233465/Natalie-Woods-death-Robert-Wagners-silence-Lana-Wood.html


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 18, 2011, 03:36:08 PM
Thank You I saw their thread after I started one.
I never believed it was a accident never..

I agree...although I was never sure of 'who done it'... and I always liked both Christopher and Robert...but leaned toward Robert holding on to the 'big secret'. Glad it is reopened.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: What a beauty...one of the World's most beautiful women, indeed.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 03:45:49 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57327810/l.a-police-wagner-not-suspect-in-wood-death/
L.A. police: Wagner not suspect in Wood death
November 18, 2011

CBS/AP)

Last Updated 2:33 p.m. ET

Robert Wagner is not considered a suspect in the death of his wife, actress Natalie Wood, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said today.

Lt. John Corina said Friday that new information deemed "substantial" has prompted homicide detectives to re-open the case.

Corina said Wood's death is still considered an accidental drowning.

A yacht captain said that he lied to investigators about the mysterious death 30 years ago, and blames Wagner, for her drowning on Nov. 29, 1981.
 ::snipping2::
In a special to air Saturday on CBS at 10 p.m. ET/PT, "48 Hours Presents Vanity Fair: Hollywood Scandal," Dennis Davern, the captain of the Wagner's boat, the Splendour, said, "I believe that Robert Wagner was with her up until the moment she went into the water."

Wood drowned after spending several hours drinking on Catalina Island and a yacht with Wagner, fellow actor Christopher Walken (with whom Wood was co-starring in the film "Brainstorm") and the ship's captain, Dennis Davern.



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 03:47:27 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57327507/captain-wagner-responsible-for-wood-death/
Captain: Wagner responsible for Wood death
November 18, 2011



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 03:53:48 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/18/justice/california-natalie-wood/index.html
Police: Robert Wagner not a suspect in new probe of Natalie Wood's death
November 18, 2011

Tune in to "Nancy Grace" tonight at 8 ET on HLN for an interview with the boat captain about what happened that night on the yacht.

Monterey Park, California (CNN) -- Actor Robert Wagner isn't a suspect in the reopened investigation into the 1981 drowning death of his wife, Natalie Wood, but authorities have received "substantial" new information to initiate a new inquiry, Los Angeles County authorities said Friday.

"We have several sources coming forward with additional information and we have found it credible enough to take another look at the case," Los Angeles County Sheriff's Lt. John Corina told reporters outside the sheriff's headquarters in Monterey Park, California.

"This new information is substantial enough to make us want to take a new look at the case," he added.

 ::snipping2::

The yacht captain, Dennis Davern, offered a new account Friday about how Wood's death was reported and said Wagner waited hours to call the Coast Guard after Wood went missing.

When asked if the captain could face charges for possibly lying to authorities during the 1981 investigation, Corina responded: "That I can't say. We'll probably end up talking to the captain sooner or later and we'll assess what he has to say then and now."
 ::snipping2::
The approaching 30th anniversary of Wood's November 29, 1981, death isn't playing a factor in the new inquiry, he said.
 ::snipping2::
Wood's death is still ruled as an accident, he said.

"Her death is ruled an accidental drowning. ... Until we find something that says it isn't, until that time, it's still an accidental drowning," Corina said.

Earlier Friday, Davern said Wagner told those aboard the boat what to say to authorities about the incident. Wood was later found drowned.

Davern said he first searched the boat to check whether Wood was anywhere on board. He said he then wanted to turn on the searchlight to see whether she was in the water, but that Wagner told him not to.

"We don't want to do that right now," Wagner allegedly told Davern.

After four hours, Davern finally called the Coast Guard. He now says he regrets waiting so long.

"It was like a mistake that I made. I do regret that, yes. I do, really," Davern told CNN on Friday.

Authorities announced Thursday the reopening of the investigation into Wood's death, which happened after an argument as the couple was boating off Catalina Island near the California coast.
Wagner's publicist Alan Nierob issued a statement Thursday saying the actor's family "fully support the efforts of the L.A. County Sheriff's Department and trust they will evaluate whether any new information relating to the death of Natalie Wood Wagner is valid, and that it comes from a credible source or sources other than those simply trying to profit from the 30-year anniversary of her tragic death."

Nierob said no one from the sheriff's department has contacted Wagner or anyone in his family about the case, one of Hollywood's most enduring mysteries.

Last year, the actress' sister, Lana Wood, and Davern asked the sheriff's office to reopen the case. L.A. County Sheriff's Deputy Benjamin Grubb couldn't say whether the sister and the captain prompted the renewed investigation.

Natalie Wood once said in a televised interview that her greatest fear was of dark seawater. Davern said that's why he felt it was doubtful Wood had taken the yacht's dinghy to try to go ashore.

Wood's body was found floating in the water about a mile away from the yacht.

According to police reports, Wood was found wearing a long nightgown, socks, and a down jacket.

"My sister was not a swimmer and did not know how to swim, and she would never go to another boat or to shore dressed in a nightgown and socks," said Lana Wood.

The autopsy report shows Wood had two dozen bruises on her body, including a facial abrasion on her left cheek, and bruises on her arms. Davern said he saw no bruises when the actress was aboard.

Although the county coroner's office ruled that Wood's death was an accident, others say the case hasn't made sense.
Much, much more...


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 03:59:12 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/18/tmz-live-natalie-wood-reopened-robert-wagner-drowning-investigation/
TMZ Live Natalie Wood's Death Why the Captain's Finally Talking
November 18, 2011

The Natalie Wood case wouldn't be reopened without yacht captain Dennis Davern revealing secrets from the night she died. We're talking to Davern and author Marti Rulli today -- why did it take the captain 30 years to open up? And who do they blame for her death?

 ::snipping2::
We'll take your phone calls at 855-TMZ-LIVE (869-5483) starting at 1:30 PM PT! Submit your comments via Twitter to @harveylevintmz or on our Facebook page at www.facebook.com/tmz!

Video at link.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2011, 04:06:52 PM
Thank You I saw their thread after I started one.
I never believed it was a accident never..
Me either.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Sister on November 18, 2011, 04:20:07 PM
Thank You I saw their thread after I started one.
I never believed it was a accident never..
Me either.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
Me either.
 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 05:52:05 PM
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/subindex/entertainment/tmz?1=1&NewsID=68403&NewsID=71783
Natalie Wood May Have Struggled For Hours
November 18, 2011



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2011, 06:21:22 PM
http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN?sk=wall
Nancy Grace
Former yacht captain of the boat Natalie Wood was on the night she died sits down with Nancy! Tune in tonight as he answers all the hard questions only Nancy dares ask. Do you think the Natalie Wood case should be re-opened?


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 18, 2011, 06:29:30 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/11/natalie-wood-her-sister-talks-to-cnns-piers-morgan-tonight.html
Natalie Wood: Her sister talks to CNN’s Piers Morgan tonight
CNN, Celebrity deaths, Piers Morgan — posted by halboedeker on November, 18 2011 4:51 PM
Discuss This: Comments(1)

Video at link.

 ::snipping2::
Natalie Wood’s death remains an enduring Hollywood mystery. It also will be discussed on ”48 Hours Mystery” at 10 p.m. Saturday on CBS.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 07:05:25 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/1118/Natalie-Wood-case-reopened-Could-investigation-lead-to-new-charges
Natalie Wood case reopened: Could investigation lead to new charges?
L.A. police reopened the case concerning the death of Natalie Wood in 1981, but experts say convincing evidence is needed to bring new charges – and new allegations aren't enough. 

November 18, 2011

It appears highly unlikely that the reopened investigation into the death of Natalie Wood 30 years ago – announced Friday by the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department – will lead to any new prosecution in the case, say legal analysts.
he case is being reopened because yacht captain Dennis Davern – one of only four people on board the boat with Ms. Wood the night she drowned – went on NBC’s Today Show this morning to say that he lied to investigators about the actress’s mysterious death 30 years ago. He alleged that Wood's husband, Robert Wagner, had something to do with her death, which had been classified as an accident.

"I made some terrible decisions and mistakes," Davern said in the interview with NBC News' David Gregory. "I did lie on a report several years ago. I made mistakes by not telling the honest truth in a police report.”
Later in the day, the L.A. Sheriff’s Department called a press conference and asked all who might know anything or have additional evidence to please come forward. But based on Friday's two events, legal analysts caution against jumping to conclusions.

“The press conference raised more questions than it answered,” says Robert Pugsley, professor of law at Southwestern Law School in Los angeles. “I am very skeptical and advise others to be skeptical as well. I didn’t sense they had done any groundwork leading to this and in my opinion it was very premature.”

He and others say that cold cases solved in recent years are typically reopened because of DNA or other hard, forensic evidence – not a change in testimony.

“It’s too easy for attorneys to undermine the credibility of a witness that has changed his testimony after such a long time,” says Laurie Levenson, professor of law at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. “Memory doesn’t typically get better over time, and it’s too easy to sabotage credibility by simply asking, ‘Why did you not come forward before?’ or ‘What is your motivation for coming forward now?’ ”
More...



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 18, 2011, 11:06:47 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57327953-10391698/christopher-walken-hires-lawyer-over-natalie-wood-investigation/
Christopher Walken hires lawyer over Natalie Wood investigation
November 18, 2011

(CBS) Chrisopher Walken has hired a lawyer following the reopening of the investigation into the 1981 death of actress Natalie Wood.

According to the Hollywood Reporter, the Oscar winner is being represented by Mathew Rosengart, a former federal prosecutor who is now a litigation specialist with a Los Angeles law firm.

Wood drowned after spending several hours drinking with her husband, actor Robert Wagner, and Walken, her co-star in the film "Brainstorm," on the couple's yacht anchored off California's Santa Catalina Island.

Sources told THR that Los Angeles Sherriff's Department investigators do not consider Walken to be a suspect.

The website also reports that that Rosengart was hired to advise Walken in the inquiry, and that the actor is expected to cooperate fully.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 19, 2011, 05:20:03 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/18/ng.01.html

Hi Muffy & Monkey's,

I learned from NG show, NW body was still warm when found, surprised me, because she was at sea for abt. four hrs.

The book Goodbye Natalie Goodbye Splendour (Marti Rulli), was absorbing.  I borrowed the book from the Library,
 a few years ago, (I least) I believe it is the same book.


What I remember (that stands out in mind) is she is quoted, asking her Hairdresser, why am I not happy, I have a beautiful house and beautiful children..."  my answer would be to her, "you can not have your cake and eat it too". 

She wanted her youth back according to a source in the book. :(

God Bless her Soul   ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/17/natalie-wood-homicide-book-investigation/

P.S. Sorry...I forgot, You are Welcome, for the thread...
NW had so many gifts..and did not appreicate when she had. IMO


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 19, 2011, 05:38:58 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57327953-10391698/christopher-walken-hires-lawyer-over-natalie-wood-investigation/
Christopher Walken hires lawyer over Natalie Wood investigation
November 18, 2011

(CBS) Chrisopher Walken has hired a lawyer following the reopening of the investigation into the 1981 death of actress Natalie Wood.

According to the Hollywood Reporter, the Oscar winner is being represented by Mathew Rosengart, a former federal prosecutor who is now a litigation specialist with a Los Angeles law firm.

Wood drowned after spending several hours drinking with her husband, actor Robert Wagner, and Walken, her co-star in the film "Brainstorm," on the couple's yacht anchored off California's Santa Catalina Island.

Sources told THR that Los Angeles Sherriff's Department investigators do not consider Walken to be a suspect.

The website also reports that that Rosengart was hired to advise Walken in the inquiry, and that the actor is expected to cooperate fully.


 ::snipping2::

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/17/natalie-wood-homicide-book-investigation/

In the book -- "Goodbye Natalie, Goodbye Splendour" -- Rulli and Splendour Captain Dennis Davern write about the night Natalie drowned.  They say before Natalie disappeared from the boat, she was drinking and taking Quaaludes with her husband, Robert Wagner and actor Christopher Walken.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/17/natalie-wood-homicide-book-investigation/


CW, was married at the time, (had a wife in NY), sorry, no link, (I believe) I remember it, from the book.
"Goodbye Natalie, Goodbye Splendour" -- Rulli and Splendour Captain Dennis Davern


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: KittyMom on November 19, 2011, 06:25:02 AM
This happened when I was in my late teens.  I remember reading about it in thenews.  I don't remember heading anything about bruises.  I do remember thinking that RW seemed the intense, jealous type.  It wouldn't surprise me if NW were more afraid of him that night than the water.  I can see her falling in while trying to get away from him and him just watching what was happening. 

What kind of fame did behave beyond Hart to Hart and being the guy that NW married?


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 08:38:09 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-11-19-natalie-wood-20111119,0,29805.story
Mystery of the reopened Natalie Wood case
Authorities spurred a media storm by revisiting actress Natalie Wood's death, but their purpose is unclear.

By Sam Allen, Richard Winton and Christopher Goffard, Los Angeles Times
November 19, 2011

(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2011-11/66193635.jpg)
Actress Natalie Wood is shown in Los Angeles in 1979. (Wally Fong / Associated Press)

(2 Pg. article)



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on November 19, 2011, 09:07:20 AM
Natalie Wood detectives face conflicting accounts
 Posted: Nov 19, 2011 3:48 AM EST Updated: Nov 19, 2011 5:28 AM EST

 A Dec. 1, 1981 file photo shows actress Natalie Wood. (AP Photo/File) A Dec. 1, 1981 file photo shows actress Natalie Wood. (AP Photo/File)
 By ANTHONY McCARTNEY
 AP Entertainment Writer

 LOS ANGELES (AP) - Natalie Wood's drowning death nearly 30 years ago came after a night of dinner, drinking and arguments but the question remains - was it anything more than a tragic accident?

 Conflicting versions of what happened on the yacht shared by Wood, her actor-husband Robert Wagner and their friend, actor Christopher Walken, have contributed to the mystery of how the actress died on Thanksgiving weekend in 1981. ::snipping2::


Davern's account is dramatically different from what he told investigators after Wood's body was found in 1981, when no mention of an argument between the couple was made. Wood was wearing a nightgown, wool socks and red down coat when she was found floating off Santa Catalina Island.

 The renewed investigation comes at a time when plenty of attention was sure to be focused on Wood, whose beauty and acting in films such as "West Side Story" and "Rebel Without a Cause" made her Hollywood royalty. Her death stunned the world and CBS' "48 Hours Mystery" has been looking into the case for a special airing on Saturday.

 Sheriff's officials denied the renewed attention prompted their review, which could take months. ::snipping2::

http://www.wfsb.com/story/16080562/natalie-wood-detectives-face-conflicting-accounts


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2011, 10:57:22 AM
The Today Show-  Natalie Wood death probe reopened.  11/19/2011
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45353345#null

The Today Show-  Boat Captain:Wagner responsible for Wood's death.  11/19/2011
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45353365#45353365


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 19, 2011, 10:58:45 AM
Natalie Wood detectives face conflicting accounts
 Posted: Nov 19, 2011 3:48 AM EST Updated: Nov 19, 2011 5:28 AM EST

 A Dec. 1, 1981 file photo shows actress Natalie Wood. (AP Photo/File) A Dec. 1, 1981 file photo shows actress Natalie Wood. (AP Photo/File)
 By ANTHONY McCARTNEY
 AP Entertainment Writer

 LOS ANGELES (AP) - Natalie Wood's drowning death nearly 30 years ago came after a night of dinner, drinking and arguments but the question remains - was it anything more than a tragic accident?

 Conflicting versions of what happened on the yacht shared by Wood, her actor-husband Robert Wagner and their friend, actor Christopher Walken, have contributed to the mystery of how the actress died on Thanksgiving weekend in 1981. ::snipping2::


Davern's account is dramatically different from what he told investigators after Wood's body was found in 1981, when no mention of an argument between the couple was made. Wood was wearing a nightgown, wool socks and red down coat when she was found floating off Santa Catalina Island.

 The renewed investigation comes at a time when plenty of attention was sure to be focused on Wood, whose beauty and acting in films such as "West Side Story" and "Rebel Without a Cause" made her Hollywood royalty. Her death stunned the world and CBS' "48 Hours Mystery" has been looking into the case for a special airing on Saturday.

 Sheriff's officials denied the renewed attention prompted their review, which could take months. ::snipping2::

http://www.wfsb.com/story/16080562/natalie-wood-detectives-face-conflicting-accounts

Hi Monkey's,

Blonde,

Speculation, (thirty years ago) was the Red down coat, kept her from climbing into the boat.  The coat would have been heavy from the water.

That was the speculation at the time when she was found.  I am puzzled how she untied the knot to the Dingy.  She was petite (I believe) the Captain tied the Dingy, as he said he did, I would think it was a a tight knot. 

She should have been with her children the Friday after Thanksgving.  Her co-star was more important to her than  her children.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Geez, I thought you took kids to see Santa, the day after Thanksgiving, she did have a small child.


Horsing arround on a boat, when your children need you, I have no idea how these people put their priorities.

I do think she studied her scripts on the boat, (she was going to finish the movie) and she was also scheculed for a role in an upcoming play.  ::santawink::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 19, 2011, 11:02:34 AM
The Today Show-  Natalie Wood death probe reopened.  11/19/2011
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45353345#null

The Today Show-  Boat Captain:Wagner responsible for Wood's death.  11/19/2011
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45353365#45353365

Thanks, Trimm for the links. 

Can you imagine three grown men allowing a petite woman to drown in the cold waters?
The Captain's job is to save all on board.  He is a shunk, IMO.



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 19, 2011, 01:11:03 PM
This happened when I was in my late teens.  I remember reading about it in thenews.  I don't remember heading anything about bruises.  I do remember thinking that RW seemed the intense, jealous type.  It wouldn't surprise me if NW were more afraid of him that night than the water.  I can see her falling in while trying to get away from him and him just watching what was happening. 

What kind of fame did behave beyond Hart to Hart and being the guy that NW married?

Actually he has quite a casting call, before and after
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001822/


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 01:32:22 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/natalie-wood-death-detectives-talked-to-owner-of-yacht-.html
Natalie Wood death: Detectives talked to owner of yacht
November 19, 2011

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0162fc9cc896970d-640wi)

The owner of the Splendour, the yacht on which Natalie Wood died during a Thanksgiving weekend cruise with husband Robert Wagner and costar Christophe Walken, said he knew for several weeks that authorities were probing the case.

"I have known for a few weeks that there was going to be a police investigation," said Ron Nelson, who purchased the boat in 1986, in an interview with KHON-TV in Honolulu. "But I didn't know it was going to explode like it did overnight."

L.A. Sheriff's Department officials said they will travel to Hawaii to look at the boat as part of their investigation. Nelson told the news channel he uses the Splendour for charter cruises and was contacted by authorities several weeks ago. He did not reveal details of the conversation.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 01:35:57 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/18/idUS25702786320111118
Christopher Walken's Natalie Wood Interview a Hoax (Update)
November 18, 2011

UPDATE, 2:35 p.m. PT Friday:

A purported radio interview with Christopher Walken, during which he allegedly discussed the hours preceding the death of Natalie Wood, has turned out to be a hoax.

The Associated Press, which first ran the story Friday, issued a correction shortly thereafter, noting that the voice actually belonged to a station employee impersonating Walken.

The faux interview took place on ESPN980, a Washington, D.C.-based sports talk radio station. According to Washington-based site TBD.com, the voice actually belongs to Marc Sterne, who does weekly impersonations of the actor on the station's "The Tony Kornheiser Show."
More...


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 01:48:48 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/11/19/natalie-wood-had-eerie-lifelong-connection-to-water/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Faffiliates%2Fkdfw+%28Affiliate+-+South+-+Dallas+-+TX+-+O%26O%29
Natalie Wood Had Eerie, Lifelong Connection to Water
November 19, 2011
(video at link)


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 19, 2011, 02:06:44 PM
The problems between NW and RJW may have developed after W. Holden died.  This is only a little opinion of mine.

This is the glorious, (Hart to Hart), co-star of RJW, Stephanie Powers, and the book she wrote, have not read it.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39914906/ns/today-books/t/actress-stefanie-powers-dishes-her-love-william-holden/

 ::MonkeyEek::

The  book Good Bye, Natalie, Goodbye, Splendour, may have touched a little of the relationship of RJW and SP, I believe it was platonic. 

When WH passed away, RJW consoled SP. I believe this may have been the beginning of NW beasty bahavior.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 19, 2011, 02:25:51 PM



Natalie Wood's death investigation - what did happen on the 'Splendour?'
http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-hartford/natalie-wood-s-death-what-happened-that-night-on-the-splendour

Natalie Wood's death investigation - what did happen on the 'Splendour?'
November 18, 2011 -


Continue reading on Examiner.com Natalie Wood's death investigation - what did happen on the 'Splendour?' - Hartford Pop Culture | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-hartford/natalie-wood-s-death-what-happened-that-night-on-the-splendour#ixzz1eBGAmAa9

Add a comment Roz Zurko, Hartford Pop Culture Examiner

November 18, 2011 -




The final report on her death settled on story that Natalie slipped on an algae covered step and falling into the water while trying to tie down the dingy. This is the official report of how it’s believed Natalie met her death.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Natalie Wood's death investigation - what did happen on the 'Splendour?' - Hartford Pop Culture | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-hartford/natalie-wood-s-death-what-happened-that-night-on-the-splendour#ixzz1eBFuZN2n



 ::MonkeyTongue::

I recall a step/rung was broken on The Spendour, NW tripped on the steps at one point, reportedly.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 19, 2011, 04:25:00 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57328199/natalie-wood-detective-breaks-silence-to-48-hours/
Natalie Wood detective breaks silence to 48 Hours
November 19, 2011

(CBS News)

The lead detective at the heart of Natalie Wood's original 1981 downing investigation tells CBS News that he would have "arrested" Robert Wagner "personally," had he "had the evidence" that Wagner killed his wife.

Speaking exclusively to "48 Hours" for the program "Vanity Fair: Hollywood Scandal," airing Saturday, Nov. 19 at 10 p.m. ET/PT on CBS, Duane Rasure, a retired detective sergeant for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Homicide Bureau, says that during his investigation into the Natalie Wood case, he "never really got suspicious of a murder."
"All the questions, all the investigation I did-- just related to she accidentally fell off the back of their boat," Rasure tells "48 Hours" for its Saturday night broadcast.

"It was an accidental drowning, she just happened to be a famous movie star. She was a small lady. She drowned in short time, I'd say," Rasure says.

And Dennis Davern is not telling the full truth, according to Rasure. The detective sergeant, who has been at the heart of a number of Hollywood murder cases, tells "48 Hours" that Davern "just made himself look good in his book."
If I have ever the slightest inkling there was a murder, something suspicious, I would have worked it," Rasure says. "I did not cover for anybody and I wouldn't cover for anybody. I don't care about their celebrity status. They were people."

Rasure tells "48 Hours" that his 1981 investigation was conducted over a period of several weeks.
Much more...


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 19, 2011, 05:09:26 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57328199/natalie-wood-detective-breaks-silence-to-48-hours/
Natalie Wood detective breaks silence to 48 Hours
November 19, 2011

(CBS News)

The lead detective at the heart of Natalie Wood's original 1981 downing investigation tells CBS News that he would have "arrested" Robert Wagner "personally," had he "had the evidence" that Wagner killed his wife.

Speaking exclusively to "48 Hours" for the program "Vanity Fair: Hollywood Scandal," airing Saturday, Nov. 19 at 10 p.m. ET/PT on CBS, Duane Rasure, a retired detective sergeant for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Homicide Bureau, says that during his investigation into the Natalie Wood case, he "never really got suspicious of a murder."
"All the questions, all the investigation I did-- just related to she accidentally fell off the back of their boat," Rasure tells "48 Hours" for its Saturday night broadcast.

"It was an accidental drowning, she just happened to be a famous movie star. She was a small lady. She drowned in short time, I'd say," Rasure says.

And Dennis Davern is not telling the full truth, according to Rasure. The detective sergeant, who has been at the heart of a number of Hollywood murder cases, tells "48 Hours" that Davern "just made himself look good in his book."
If I have ever the slightest inkling there was a murder, something suspicious, I would have worked it," Rasure says. "I did not cover for anybody and I wouldn't cover for anybody. I don't care about their celebrity status. They were people."

Rasure tells "48 Hours" that his 1981 investigation was conducted over a period of several weeks.
Much more...

 ::rhino::   I do not think anyone killed NW.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2011, 05:04:22 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57328250/natalie-woods-fatal-voyage/

November 19, 2011 11:30 PM
Natalie Wood's fatal voyage

 ::snipping2::

Roger Smith, the paramedic who took Natalie Wood's body to shore, claims that her fingers were still pliable and rigor mortis had not yet set in.


Roger Smith: "I think she was at least alive for three of the hours, hanging on that skiff. ...With our equipment and everything...and our expertise we would've found her. And she would still be alive today."

 ::snipping2::

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57328250/natalie-woods-fatal-voyage/


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 08:28:29 AM
Thank you for the article seahorse.  It's a real shame if Natalie Wood was possibly alive for as long as the paramedic estimated.  She may have been saved, and hanging on to the side of a small boat in dark cold water for hours would have been torturous before demise.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  And even if she did fall into the water by accident, why did Robert Wagner wait for hours to call for help?  He may not have pushed her in the water we don't know, but if he waited hours to report it, he possibly contributed to her death if she could have been found imo. 



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 08:37:17 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7388946n
"48 Hours" Presents Vanity Fair: Hollywood Scandal
November 19, 2011

41:40 Video


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 08:43:31 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063838/Natalie-Wood-death-Rescuer-moment-told-Robert-Wagner-hed-body.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Natalie Wood Death: Rescuer on moment he told Robert Wagner he'd found her body
November 20, 2011

'He looked at me as I said it and he just looked down': Rescuer tells of moment he told Robert Wagner of Natalie Wood's death as he reveals spot where he found her body

    Witness on another boat said she could hear a woman struggling in the water
    Ship's captain says death is 'linked to an argument' she had with actor husband Robert Wagner
    Ms Wood's sister claims Natalie hated water as she believed she would meet her death by drowning
    Autopsy revealed two dozen bruises on her body
    Police may use new DNA technology in a new investigation into the death
More...
(Lots of photos in article)


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 20, 2011, 09:16:41 AM
More Natalie Wood photos.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-18559_162-10010221.html?tag=page


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Date of Birth
20 July 1938, San Francisco, California, USA


Date of Death
29 November 1981, Santa Catalina Island, California, USA (drowning)


Birth Name
Natalia Nikolaevna Zakharenko


Nickname
Natalia
Natasha


Height
5' (1.52 m)

 ::MonkeyEek::

Edit to add link per Seahorse.  MB
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000081/bio




Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2011, 11:52:23 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000081/bio  Sorry, Muffy, I forgot to ad the link to the above post of NW Height :)  Fixed it.  MB


As her daughters reached school age, Natalie returned to acting. In 1979 she had three projects awaiting release. The most significant was "From Here to Eternity" (1979), a mini-series film that co-starred Kim Basinger and William Devane. Natalie gave a subtle yet very sexy and powerful performance, and it won her a Golden Globe Award for Best Actress in 1980. She also starred in the science-fiction disaster, Meteor (1979) with Sean Connery, but it was severely bashed by critics and performed very poorly at the box office. Her next film, the sex comedy, The Last Married Couple in America (1980), with George Segal was also poorly received, despite the praise of her spunky performance. Natalie was unhappy that her film career was ailing because she had been an actress nearly all her life and loved the craft. Determined to re-ignite her film career, Natalie made an unusual choice by moving to North Carolina (something her husband hated her for doing) in late 1981 to make Brainstorm (1983), a compelling science fiction drama in which she and Christopher Walken played a husband-and-wife team of scientists who create a device that can record human thoughts.

Natalie returned to L.A. for an open house Thanksgiving and brought Walken with her. She invited him to join her, Wagner, and boat captain Dennis Davern on a boat trip to Catalina Island. On Saturday, November 28th, 1981, they dined at a restaurant on Catalina where Natalie became very intoxicated. That night, the four of them returned to their yacht, the "Splendor." The rest is a mystery, and the stories about how she ended up in the water have been conflicting. On the morning of Sunday, November 29th, 1981, her body was found floating in a cove. Rumors of foul play immediately surfaced, but Dr. Thomas Noguchi concluded that Natalie attempted to get out of the water into a rubber dingy, but was unable to due to her drunkenness. Ironically, according to her mother, a gypsy once told her that Natalie would die of drowning, which caused Natalie to have nightmares as a child. She was 43 years old. Natalie was scheduled to make her stage debut in "Anastasia" in February 1982 and star opposite Timothy Hutton in a film called "Country of the Heart." She had not completed all of her scenes in "Brainstorm," and a stand-in and sound-a-likes were used to replace her. Since then her death has continued to cause controversy.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000081/bio


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2011, 12:58:40 PM
Personal life:

Walken married Georgianne Walken (née Thon) in 1969; she is a casting director, most notably for The Sopranos. They live in Wilton, Connecticut and have no children (Walken has stated in interviews that not having children is one of the reasons he has had such a prolific film career).[1] They also have a vacation home on Block Island, Rhode Island. In regard to his villainous roles preceding him when meeting new people, Walken said, "When they see me in a movie, they expect me to be something nasty ... That's why it's good to defy expectations sometimes."[26]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Walken

 ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/19/christopher-walken-natalie-wood-photo/


Christopher Walken -- Working During Natalie Wood Drama
11/19/2011 11:25 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF.Christopher Wa

http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/19/christopher-walken-natalie-wood-photo/lken




Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2011, 01:08:31 PM
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Christopher+Walken/Georgianne+Walken

Photo's of Christopher Walken and Georgianne Walken, he has been married to her, since 1969.

 


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2011, 01:15:27 PM

Interesting biography.  IMO.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Christopher Walken,

the Song and Dance Man

Christopher Walken Biography
 
Young Ronnie

Walken Christopher Walken came into this world as Ronald Walken (named after actor Ronald Coleman) on March 31, 1943. Born the middle child in a family of three boys, he was raised along with his brothers Ken and Glenn, in Queens, New York. Walken still remains a resident of New York City to this day, and for the past couple of decades has owned a brownstone on Manhattan's upper West Side in addition to a home located in the Connecticut countryside.


Christopher's parents were both immigrants who met in the U. S. as young adults and married in 1936. Walken's father, Paul, came from Germany and spent a long career as the owner and operator of Walken's Bakery in Queens. Paul, who passed away in February 2001, was a ferocious worker who regularly made a practice of keeping his young sons busy in the bakery after school. Perhaps that work ethic, instilled so early on, is one of the reasons Walken has said that he is happiest when he is busy working.  More...

Childhood photo's of Ronald Walden/Christopher Walden

http://www.celebratingchristopherwalken.com/biography.htm


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2011, 02:49:31 PM
http://martirulli.blogspot.com/2011/10/natalie-wood-in-her-perch.html
Marti Rulli, Author: Goodbye Natalie Goodbye Splendour (Natalie Wood)

Natalie Wood in her perch

Photograph of NW working on needing point on the Yacht, very happy looking, NW!

The date is of the blog and not when the photo was taken.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on November 20, 2011, 03:31:11 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57328250/natalie-woods-fatal-voyage/

November 19, 2011 11:30 PM
Natalie Wood's fatal voyage

 ::snipping2::

Roger Smith, the paramedic who took Natalie Wood's body to shore, claims that her fingers were still pliable and rigor mortis had not yet set in.


Roger Smith: "I think she was at least alive for three of the hours, hanging on that skiff. ...With our equipment and everything...and our expertise we would've found her. And she would still be alive today."

 ::snipping2::

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-57328250/natalie-woods-fatal-voyage/

RW said don't put on any lights to look for her


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 08:43:42 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/natalie-wood-death-robert-wagner-christopher-walken-264113
Natalie Wood's Death: 10 Developments During Week 1 of the Reinvestigation
November 20, 2011

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department dropped a bombshell last week when it announced that it was reopening the case of actress Natalie Wood's mysterious death after 30 years.
Investigators revealed Thursday that new information was behind the decision to revisit the events of Nov. 19, 1981, when the 43-year-old actress mysteriously disappeared from her yacht, Spendour, which was floating just off the coast of Southern California's Catalina Island. She was on board with husband Robert Wagner and Brainstorm co-star Christopher Walken.
At the time, authorities ruled her death an accidental drowning, but many have questioned the events of that night, including her sister, Lana Wood, and the yacht's captain, Dennis Davern, who more than a year ago were both calling for the department to reopen its investigation.

Here are 10 significant developments surrounding the case since the news broke
.


See the list and details at link.

(I really think this is an opinion piece, and I'm not sure of the validity of information contained, but it was an interesting read.  I don't usually worry about an occasional typo in an article, but this one has so many errors including misspelled words it appears very amateur imo.  Spell check is not a place in Czechoslovakia.   ::MonkeyWink::) ::bee::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on November 21, 2011, 12:07:00 PM
For years I have seen articles which hinted at Robert Wagner having something to do with Natalie's death.

The question I've had was... did anyone in their boat see or hear anything that they weren't speaking about?

I never knew that there was that third man in the boat, and when his book came out the first thing I thought was that he was out to bring the case up just to make a buck.

It seems Robert Wagner was a control freak, whose rage got out of control with help of the booze he was drinking that night. They fought, he threw her out the boat, then didn't want to rescue her.

Now Christopher Walken hired a lawyer, so he knows things may get ugly.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 22, 2011, 07:51:24 AM
Edit to add link per seahorse.  MB http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/woman-claims-she-heard-natalie-wood-cries-help-095255169.html

Woman Claims She Heard Natalie Wood’s Cries for Help on Night Actress Died
..By ABC News

 .Posts .By ABC News | ABC News Blogs – 22 hours ago

 ::snipping2::

But now California resident Marilyn Wayne, who was boating in the same area that night — approximately 40 yards away from the Splendour, the yacht upon which the actors were staying — said she heard a woman’s cries for help.

 ::snipping2::

“While listening to the cries, we called the harbor patrol but no one answered. Then we called the sheriff’s office in Avalon, 12 miles away, and whoever answered told us a helicopter would be sent, but it did not come. We heard loud music coming from somewhere, so thought there was a party on a nearby boat,” the statement said. “Then I heard a man’s voice, slurred, and in aggravated tone, say something to the effect of, “Oh, hold on, we’re coming to get you,” and not long after, the cries for help subsided, but we heard the cries for up to 15 minutes. We returned to bed, terribly disturbed

 ::snipping2::

So sad.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 22, 2011, 07:53:16 AM
Woman Claims She Heard Natalie Wood’s Cries for Help on Night Actress Died
..By ABC News

 .Posts .By ABC News | ABC News Blogs – 22 hours ago

 ::snipping2::

But now California resident Marilyn Wayne, who was boating in the same area that night — approximately 40 yards away from the Splendour, the yacht upon which the actors were staying — said she heard a woman’s cries for help.

 ::snipping2::

“While listening to the cries, we called the harbor patrol but no one answered. Then we called the sheriff’s office in Avalon, 12 miles away, and whoever answered told us a helicopter would be sent, but it did not come. We heard loud music coming from somewhere, so thought there was a party on a nearby boat,” the statement said. “Then I heard a man’s voice, slurred, and in aggravated tone, say something to the effect of, “Oh, hold on, we’re coming to get you,” and not long after, the cries for help subsided, but we heard the cries for up to 15 minutes. We returned to bed, terribly disturbed ::snipping2:

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/woman-claims-she-heard-natalie-wood-cries-help-095255169.html


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on November 22, 2011, 10:07:48 AM
Woman Claims She Heard Natalie Wood’s Cries for Help on Night Actress Died
..By ABC News

 .Posts .By ABC News | ABC News Blogs – 22 hours ago

 ::snipping2::

But now California resident Marilyn Wayne, who was boating in the same area that night — approximately 40 yards away from the Splendour, the yacht upon which the actors were staying — said she heard a woman’s cries for help.

 ::snipping2::

“While listening to the cries, we called the harbor patrol but no one answered. Then we called the sheriff’s office in Avalon, 12 miles away, and whoever answered told us a helicopter would be sent, but it did not come. We heard loud music coming from somewhere, so thought there was a party on a nearby boat,” the statement said. “Then I heard a man’s voice, slurred, and in aggravated tone, say something to the effect of, “Oh, hold on, we’re coming to get you,” and not long after, the cries for help subsided, but we heard the cries for up to 15 minutes. We returned to bed, terribly disturbed ::snipping2:

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/woman-claims-she-heard-natalie-wood-cries-help-095255169.html


Did Ms. Wayne have a Fog Horn on her boat?

 How could you go to bed, when someone for Fifteen minutes, is crying out for their life? 

It was not Ms Wayne's fault that NW was in the water, but she was the sane mind on the water, that night, IMO.
She could actually go to sleep?  If she had a fog horn, a bell, air horn? She could have bought attention,to the
dire situation. :(

How do you sleep when you know what you heard? 


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 22, 2011, 10:15:38 AM
Woman Claims She Heard Natalie Wood’s Cries for Help on Night Actress Died
..By ABC News

 .Posts .By ABC News | ABC News Blogs – 22 hours ago

 ::snipping2::

But now California resident Marilyn Wayne, who was boating in the same area that night — approximately 40 yards away from the Splendour, the yacht upon which the actors were staying — said she heard a woman’s cries for help.

 ::snipping2::

“While listening to the cries, we called the harbor patrol but no one answered. Then we called the sheriff’s office in Avalon, 12 miles away, and whoever answered told us a helicopter would be sent, but it did not come. We heard loud music coming from somewhere, so thought there was a party on a nearby boat,” the statement said. “Then I heard a man’s voice, slurred, and in aggravated tone, say something to the effect of, “Oh, hold on, we’re coming to get you,” and not long after, the cries for help subsided, but we heard the cries for up to 15 minutes. We returned to bed, terribly disturbed ::snipping2:

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/woman-claims-she-heard-natalie-wood-cries-help-095255169.html


Did Ms. Wayne have a Fog Horn on her boat?

 How could you go to bed, when someone for Fifteen minutes, is crying out for their life? 

It was not Ms Wayne's fault that NW was in the water, but she was the sane mind on the water, that night, IMO.
She could actually go to sleep?  If she had a fog horn, a bell, air horn? She could have bought attention,to the
dire situation. :(

How do you sleep when you know what you heard? 


IIRC, boats are supposed to have some sort of working bell or whistle.  I know I couldn't go to sleep if I even thought I had heard a cry for help, let alone someone crying out for help for 15 minutes.  Did she not have a marine radio? 


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on November 22, 2011, 10:57:58 AM
 ::snipping2::
Although the L.A. County Sheriff's Dept. says Robert Wagner is not a suspect, it's pretty clear -- as the last person to see Natalie Wood alive -- he's the target of the probe.

Under California law, even if Wagner accidentally pushed Natalie into the dark water ... the most he could be charged with is involuntary manslaughter. But here's the problem -- there's a statute of limitations of 3 years for that crime, so prosecutors would have had to file charges 27 years ago. Ditto voluntary manslaughter, which has a statute of limitations of 3 years.

The only crime for which anyone could be prosecuted is first degree murder, because there's no statute of limitations. Remember, there are no possible witnesses other than Robert Wagner. Short of a bizarre confession, D.A. sources say there's no chance of a prosecution. BTW, there's a 6-year statute of limitations on second degree murder.


As for why the Sheriff is investigating the death ... one D.A. source said, "It's an exercise in futility. I just don't get it."

http://www.tmz.com/


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Itaryl Moosee on November 24, 2011, 01:04:04 PM
::snipping2::
Although the L.A. County Sheriff's Dept. says Robert Wagner is not a suspect, it's pretty clear -- as the last person to see Natalie Wood alive -- he's the target of the probe.

Under California law, even if Wagner accidentally pushed Natalie into the dark water ... the most he could be charged with is involuntary manslaughter. But here's the problem -- there's a statute of limitations of 3 years for that crime, so prosecutors would have had to file charges 27 years ago. Ditto voluntary manslaughter, which has a statute of limitations of 3 years.

The only crime for which anyone could be prosecuted is first degree murder, because there's no statute of limitations. Remember, there are no possible witnesses other than Robert Wagner. Short of a bizarre confession, D.A. sources say there's no chance of a prosecution. BTW, there's a 6-year statute of limitations on second degree murder.


As for why the Sheriff is investigating the death ... one D.A. source said, "It's an exercise in futility. I just don't get it."

http://www.tmz.com/

Robert Wagner did not confess back then, chances are he will not do it now.

That D.A. should not be so pessimistic. I think he is sending the wrong message to other wife-murderers wannabes.

-----

Anyway, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Robert Wagner's new wife after Natalie.

Wikipedia says that Jill St. John and Robert Wagner were a couple in early 1982, though they had met when she was 18.

Doing some math... Natalie Woods died November 29, 1981.
Still doing math... Jill & RJ were a couple in early 1982.

How much mourning time did Robert Wagner have between these two women?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_St._John




Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on November 27, 2011, 07:20:38 AM


http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html#/v/1286337033001/doug-bombard-found-natalie-woods-body/?playlist_id=163706


Doug Bombard Found Natalie Wood's Body
Informed Wagner of Wood's death

Video (4:32)
November 20, 2011


What Does Natalie Wood's Autopsy Reveal?
Dr. Michael Baden weighs in

Video (4:18)
November 20, 2011






Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on December 18, 2011, 12:52:03 PM

http://blogs.amctv.com/movie-blog/2011/12/story-notes-trivia-miracle-on-34th-street.php

Natalie Wood had a photographic memory and always knew her lines. Because she always got scenes right the first time, she got the nickname "One Take Natalie."

http://blogs.amctv.com/movie-blog/2011/12/story-notes-trivia-miracle-on-34th-street.php

ME: ::MonkeyEek::

I do know if this is a matter of opinion, that NW had an photographic memory.  I think we would have known before
now, if she did.  If she did have a photographic memory, it explains why she needed to have a script for a movie
or play.

She must have felt lost, without some sort of script to study, to keep her mind fresh and challenged.  So sad, if only
she stayed home with the children, and created a skit for the family.  Perhaps drinking hot chocolate, may have been a
better idea. 


We can not be Teenager, forever...we must grow-up, at some point in our lives.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: pharlap on February 17, 2012, 08:02:07 PM
For years I have seen articles which hinted at Robert Wagner having something to do with Natalie's death.

The question I've had was... did anyone in their boat see or hear anything that they weren't speaking about?

I never knew that there was that third man in the boat, and when his book came out the first thing I thought was that he was out to bring the case up just to make a buck.

It seems Robert Wagner was a control freak, whose rage got out of control with help of the booze he was drinking that night. They fought, he threw her out the boat, then didn't want to rescue her.

Now Christopher Walken hired a lawyer, so he knows things may get ugly.


I remember this very good like it was yesterday.
People thought (at that time) there was a fight.
Natalie,some of the time fell in love with her leading men.
The fight would of been over that, with Christopher.
To me, at that time, I always wondered why in the world Robert would of let him on the boat.
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 12:15:35 PM
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlla/marti-rulli-dennis-davern-goodbye-natalie-splendour-aj-hammer-cnn-inside-edition_b58996
Author Marti Rulli Revisits Natalie Wood Media Frenzy
April 10, 2012

Although the recently re-opened investigation into the tragic death of actress Natalie Wood is still ongoing, the author who sparked it all, Marti Rulli, says she has finally been able to get back to a normal day-to-day in New Jersey. She still thinks about the late actress every day and remains grateful that the shocking events that took place off Catalina Island on Thanksgiving weekend 1981 are finally getting their proper investigative due.
“From everything I know, the case is still alive and very much being investigated,” Rulli tells FishbowlLA via telephone. “It will take the time that the case deserves. I trust that they will not close up this case without interviewing the people who were on board.”

“I don’t know the exact status of the LA County Sheriff’s investigation, or when they’re interviewing the other people involved,” she continues. “What I do know is that they had said they intend to interview everyone who had information about the case.”
 ::snipping2::
Video a Link



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on July 07, 2012, 12:11:49 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/06/natalie-wood-cause-death-changes-from-accident-to-undetermined-on-death/
Natalie Wood's cause of death changes from 'Accident' to 'Undetermined,' on death certificate, report says
July 6, 2012

Natalie Wood's death certificate was changed in late June from "Accident" to "Undetermined," TMZ reported.

According to TMZ, the L.A. County Coroner filed the documents late last month and informed Wood's family of the change.  Detectives said the change was made in part due to bruises on Wood's body that were inconsistent with death by drowning.
 ::snipping2::
The investigation is still active.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: KittyMom on July 07, 2012, 08:38:48 AM
Interesting...

I wonder how Robert reacted to the news?


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on July 07, 2012, 04:31:43 PM

KING CORONER: NATALIE WOOD DEATH CONFIDENTIAL

(nothing jaw-dropping, IMO)

Published on: July 7, 2012
by DICK SIEGEL, NATIONAL ENQUIRER web editor


Famed King Coroner  LA Medical Examiner  DR. THOMAS NOGUCHI reveals the grim details of the last seconds of NATALIE WOOD’s life as she gasped for air in the choppy  waters off Catalina Island.

In his book, “Coroner”, Noguchi recreated the last desperate moments of Natalie’s fight for life.
 ::snipping2::

Even Paul Miller, the Deputy Coroner, who was captaining a ship nearby saw and heard nothing.  He had seen Natalie “buzz to shore in her little rubber dinghy” earlier in the day ---twice – alone.   
 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyEek::

Interesting!


http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/king-coroner-natalie-wood-death-confidential


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on July 08, 2012, 11:00:41 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/sns-rt-natalie-wood-case-natalie-wood-deathmt1thewrap468-20120707,0,6982820.story
Natalie Wood Death Case 'Open and Ongoing,' Police Say
July 7, 2012

Jul 07 (TheWrap.com) - Nearly nine months after re-opening the investigation into the death of actress Natalie Wood, the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department is still looking into the case, the Sheriff's department said Friday night, noting that their investigation is "open and ongoing."

"We have received many calls from the news media today asking about the status of the Natalie Wood death investigation case," the Sheriff's Department said. "It remains an open and ongoing investigation. There are no further details."

TMZ reported on Friday that the Los Angeles County Coroner had filed papers in late June to change the cause of Wood's death from "accidental" to "undetermined," and that detectives from the Sheriff's Department visited family members on Friday, telling them that bruises on Wood's body were inconsistent with death by drowning. According to the family members, detectives could not say for certain whether Woods' drowning resulted from an accident or foul play.

A spokesman for the coroner's department confirmed to TheWrap that Wood's case is on "security hold," and that the coroner's office is cooperating with law enforcement.

"The case is currently on security hold at the request of the Sheriff's Dept. It is an open investigation and we are cooperating fully with the Sheriff's Department," the spokesman said. "This Department is making no comments at this time."
More...


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on July 08, 2012, 11:03:04 PM
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/news/2012/07/07/6957/security-hold-natalie-woods-death-certificate-recl/
LA County officials place security hold on actress Natalie Wood's death certificate
July 7, 2012





Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on July 08, 2012, 11:05:14 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/07/natalie-wood-death-investigation-remains-open-investigators-say.html
Natalie Wood death investigation remains open, officials say
July 8, 2012


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-me-natalie-wood-pictures,0,2912843.photogallery
Natalie Wood | 1938-1981
Photo Gallery


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2012, 08:11:45 AM


Coroner [Hardcover]

Thomas T. Noguchi (Author)
 Joseph Dimona (Author)

May 6, 2002
By Acute *******

Snipped...

Dr. Noguchi reveals the tragic facts of Natalie Wood's drowning. You can read about Marilyn Monroe, Sharon Tate, Janis Joplin, William Holden, and John Belushi. He tells of "the terrible danger of alcohol ... the most popular and most deadly drug ever conceived"; one out of every four deaths is alcohol related (p.227).

http://www.amazon.com/Coroner-Thomas-T-Noguchi/dp/0671467727


 I would trust the Coroner :)


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on August 23, 2012, 05:51:10 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/natalie-woods-death-certificate-amended-to-reflect-lingering-questions-about-her-drowning/2012/08/21/46ef62b6-ebe6-11e1-866f-60a00f604425_story.html
Natalie Wood’s death certificate amended to reflect lingering questions about her drowning
August 21, 2012

LOS ANGELES — Authorities have changed Natalie Wood’s death certificate to reflect some of the lingering questions surrounding the actress’ drowning 30 years ago.

An amended copy of the actress’ death certificate was entered earlier this month and changes her death from being classified as accidental to undetermined.

The amended document also notes that how Wood got into the water was never “clearly established.”

More...


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on August 23, 2012, 05:53:08 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/authorities-amend-natalie-woods-death-certificate-17053596#.UDakWKDBnIU
Authorities Amend Natalie Wood's Death Certificate
August 22, 2012

 Natalie Wood's death certificate has been changed to reflect some of the uncertainties and lingering questions surrounding the actress' drowning more than 30 years ago in the Pacific Ocean off Southern California.

The document was amended earlier this month and shifts Wood's death from an accidental drowning to "drowning and other undetermined factors," according to a copy of the certificate obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press.

The amended document also now states that the circumstances of how Wood ended up in the waters off Catalina Island in November 1981 are "not clearly established."

The changes occurred nine months after sheriff's homicide investigators renewed their inquiry into Wood's death shortly before its 30th anniversary.
More...

Video at Link


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on September 14, 2012, 08:32:08 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57512525-504083/natalie-wood-update-l.a-county-homicide-detectives-investigate-family-boat-in-hawaii/
Natalie Wood Update: L.A. County homicide detectives investigate family boat in Hawaii
September 13, 2012

(CBS) LOS ANGELES - Homicide detectives investigating the 1981 drowning death of Hollywood star Natalie Wood have traveled more than 2,000 miles to Honolulu, Hawaii, twice, to visit the Splendour, the vessel where Wood was last seen alive, according to a new report set to air on 48 Hours this Saturday.

The second trip was made with Dennis Davern, the yacht's then-captain, who says actor Robert Wagner, Wood's husband, was having a fight with the actress before she went missing, and delayed the search for her after she disappeared into the water.

Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department homicide detectives combed through the ship - testing the various theories of what happened, according to 48 Hours. Their first trip to the Splendour was made last December. 48 Hours was the only news organization there with the detectives as they continue to investigate her death. The detectives made their second trip, this time with Davern, in July.

Saturday's updated edition of 48 Hours Presents Vanity Fair: Hollywood Scandal (10:00 PM, CBS) includes the exclusive footage of police, along with Splendour captain Davern, returning to the boat he hadn't seen in three decades.
 ::snipping2::

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7421470n&tag=cbsnewsLeadStoriesArea.0
Sneak Peek: 48 Hours Presents Vanity Fair: Hollywood Scandal
September 12, 2012 8:20 AM

Saturday, Sept. 15 at 10 p.m. ET/PT: New details in the death of Natalie Wood - secret tapes about what may have happened that night and a captain who may hold the clues. Plus: Hollywood's most enduring mysteries.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on September 14, 2012, 08:32:44 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7421700n&tag=stack
Natalie Wood drowning probe uncovers new evidence
Los Angeles homicide detectives have new information on the mysterious death of Natalie Wood and CBS News' "48 Hours" is the only news organization to see the new evidence. Erin Moriarty reports and then talks to Charlie Rose.
September 14, 2012

Video 4:58


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on December 03, 2012, 12:04:57 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/11/28/exclusive-courtney-wagner-opens-up-on-anniversary-mother-natalie-woods-death/?intcmp=obnetwork
EXCLUSIVE: Courtney Wagner opens up on anniversary of mother Natalie Wood’s death
November 28, 2012

(http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Entertainment/wagner%20wood%20660%20split%20AP.jpg)

Video at Link


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on January 14, 2013, 02:51:18 PM
http://www.stardriveways.com/nataliewood.html


Robert Wagner & Natalie Wood's last home together

(http://www.stardriveways.com/RobertWagnerNatalieWood-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on January 14, 2013, 03:03:16 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/natalie-wood-death-coroner-report_n_2472840.html
Natalie Wood Death: Coroner Releases New Report
January 14, 2013

LOS ANGELES — Some of the bruises found on Natalie Wood's body may have occurred before the actress drowned in the waters off Southern California more than 30 years ago, according to a newly released coroner's report on one of Hollywood's most mysterious deaths.

The case took another twist Monday when officials released a 10-page addendum to Wood's 1981 autopsy that cites unexplained bruises and scratches on Wood's face and arms as significant factors that led to officials changing her death certificate last year from a drowning to "drowning and other undetermined factors."

Officials were careful about their conclusions because they lacked several pieces of evidence for their review.

Bruises on Wood's arms, a scratch on her neck and superficial abrasions to the actress' face may have occurred before Wood ended up in the waters off Catalina Island in November 1981, but coroner's officials wrote they could not definitely determine when the injuries occurred.

The findings have not altered a sheriff's department investigation into Wood's death, which a spokesman described as ongoing.
More...


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on January 14, 2013, 03:05:35 PM
http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/14/16506921-natalie-woods-bruises-helped-coroner-decide-to-change-cause-of-death?lite
Natalie Wood's bruises helped coroner decide to change cause of death
January 14, 2013

Some of the bruises on Natalie Wood's body may have occurred before the actress wound up in the water off California's Catalina Island in 1981, leading the Los Angeles Coroner's Office to change her cause of death to "drowning and other undetermined factors."
The actress' death certificate was amended back in August 2012, with the cause of death being changed from an accidental drowning to "drowning and other undetermined factors." But information as to why the change was made was not released until Monday, when the corner's office put out a 10-page supplement to the actress' autopsy report.
The supplement notes that "bruises especially in the upper extremities appeared fresh and could have occurred before (Wood) entered the water." It also says that "the location of the bruises, the multiplicity of the bruises, lack of head trauma, or facial bruising support bruising having occurred prior to the entry into the water."
Wood died after spending an evening on the 60-foot yacht Splendour with husband Robert Wagner and actor Christopher Walken in November 1981.
How exactly Wood, 43 at the time, ended up in the water is also unclear. In part because Wood was found wearing a flannel nightgown and down jacket, and because she is believed to have gone into the water around midnight, the supplement states that "this medical examiner is unable to exclude non-volitional, unplanned entry into the water."
Wood's bruises are described as "superficial skin bruises on the extremities and abrasions on the left side of the face."
"There will be no further statement by the coroner regarding the Natalie Wood death injury," Chief Coroner Investigator & Chief of Operations Craig Harvey told NBC News.
More...


Slideshow at link.


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on January 14, 2013, 03:09:10 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/01/natalie-wood-autopsy-not-enough-evidence-to-show-homicide.html
Natalie Wood autopsy not enough evidence to show homicide, sources say
January 14, 2013

Despite new revelations about the death of Natalie Wood contained in an autopsy report released Monday, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department sources said detective are far from ready to classify the case as a homicide.

The coroner's review found that the actress had several fresh bruises and scratches on her arm, wrist and neck that likely occurred before she landed in the Pacific Ocean and drowned.

One law enforcement source told The Times that detectives have been reexamining the case for more than a year and have gathered new evidence. But the evidence still leaves the death as "undetermined," said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case was ongoing.
“This remains an ongoing investigation,” said Steve Whitmore, the Los Angeles County sheriff’s spokesman. “Yes this is a revelation to the public but this report was written in June 2012.”A sheriff's spokesman said his department has known the contents of the new autopsy for some time.


Whitmore said the Wood investigation became active again in November 2011 when the department received new information and the department asked the coroner to reexamine the case as part of that ongoing investigation.

“As in any death investigation, they remain ongoing until they reach a conclusion,” Whitmore said.

The new report, which was released on Monday, said that it could not verify that those injuries were caused by a fall off a dinghy or attempt to climb back into the boat, which has long been the theory of how she died on Nov. 29, 1981, off Catalina Island.

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department re-opened the case in November 2011 and the coroner later changed the cause of death from accidental to drowning and other undetermined factors.
 ::snipping2::

DOCUMENT: Read the full report
http://documents.latimes.com/coroners-report-death-natalie-wood/



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on January 14, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505270_162-57563770/natalie-wood-death-report-to-question-original-autopsy-sources/
Natalie Wood death report to question original autopsy: Sources
January 14, 2013

Video at Link (To watch Miller's full report and analysis, watch the video in the player)


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on January 15, 2013, 09:46:58 AM
NW allegedly walked into a pole while exiting the restaurant, on the night of her death,
that would account for a facial bruise, in my opinion.  She may have tripped on a step on the boat,(reportedly), could account for an ankles being bruise.

 I simply feel her early death was accidently. She was a peanut (no disrespect) if anyone swung at her she would be on the moon.

The Captain made NW a cup of tea, I never heard anything more about the tea. Did she drink it?  What time? 

If we could turn back the hands of time, NW. should have fired the Captain, IMO, he was there to protect her and the crew, I would say he neglected his job. IMO ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: MuffyBee on January 18, 2013, 04:18:31 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57564619/robert-wagner-not-interviewed-in-new-natalie-wood-inquiry/
Robert Wagner not interviewed in new Natalie Wood inquiry
January 17, 2013

LOS ANGELES Robert Wagner has declined to be interviewed by detectives in a renewed inquiry into the drowning death of his wife Natalie Wood three decades ago, an investigator said Thursday.
Wagner was interviewed by authorities soon after Wood's drowning in 1981, but the actor is the only person who was on the yacht the night Wood died who has not spoken to detectives as part of the latest inquiry, despite repeated requests and attempts, sheriff's Lt. John Corina said.

Blair Berk, an attorney for Wagner and his family, said the actor had cooperated with authorities since his wife died.

Detectives began re-investigating the case in November 2011. Since then investigators have interviewed more than 100 people, but Wagner has refused and Corina said the actor's representatives have not given any reason for his silence.

The detective's remarks provided new insight into the case that has remained one of Hollywood's enduring mysteries. Earlier this week, coroner's officials released an updated autopsy report that had been under a security hold. It detailed why Wood's death had been reclassified from an accidental drowning to an drowning caused by "undetermined factors."

"Mr. Wagner has fully cooperated over the last 30 years in the investigation of the accidental drowning of his wife in 1981," Berk said in a prepared statement. "Mr. Wagner has been interviewed on multiple occasions by the Los Angeles sheriff's department and answered every single question asked of him by detectives during those interviews."
After 30 years, Berk said, neither Wagner nor his daughters have any new information to add. She said the latest investigation was prompted by people seeking to exploit and sensationalize the 30th anniversary of the death.

Authorities have not identified any suspects in the case.

Wood, 43, was on a yacht with Wagner, Christopher Walken and the boat captain on Thanksgiving weekend of 1981 before she somehow ended up in the water.

Corina said Walken gave a prepared statement, and spoke to detectives for an hour.

Detectives have also interviewed other actors who knew both Wagner and Wood to learn more about their relationship.

Corina said detectives have tried at least 10 times to interview Wagner but have been refused. He said some of the refusals have come from the actor's attorney, and that detectives at one point traveled to Colorado to try to speak with Wagner but were unsuccessful.

Corina said the latest inquiry had turned up new evidence.

"Most of the people we've talked to were never talked to 30 years ago," he said. "We've got a lot of new information."

Asked if the information might lead to criminal charges, Corina said that would be up to prosecutors if they are presented a case.

"All we can do is collect the facts," he said. "We're still trying to collect all the facts."

Corina said new people have emerged with information each time the case is in the news. Detectives would like to interview other people who haven't agreed to talk, he said.
 ::snipping2::
The updated report states the change was made in part because investigators couldn't rule out that some of the bruises and marks on Wood's body happened before she went into the water.

"Since there are unanswered questions and limited additional evidence available for evaluation, it is opined by this medical examiner that the manner of death should be left as undetermined," Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Lakshmanan Sathyavagiswaran wrote in the report completed in June.

Officials also considered that Wood wasn't wearing a life jacket, had no history of suicide attempts and didn't leave a note as reasons to amend its report and the death certificate.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2013, 09:19:57 AM
The Det. should ask the Captain and give a reenactment of events. He started this BS. IMO





http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2011-11-18/st-augustine-man-key-natalie-wood-death-probe


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on January 19, 2013, 12:35:18 PM


 ::MonkeyEek::  I think Javahog has a good Theory.IMO





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My theory is that there was a scuffle between the boys, and she pulled on her jacket, went up top to intervene. No one noticed she either tripped and went off the back, or accidentally got hit on the cheek in the melee and went overboard. Just an accident, but one that did not occur exactly as Noguchi suggested. I sure wish she'd managed to pull herself onto that dinghy...
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Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on January 20, 2013, 11:16:59 AM
Natalie Wood and Her Father


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9jmzUH7yZy0/TXUYmMYScEI/AAAAAAAAAUc/6Ohqml9mUzc/s640/Natalie+with+Father.bmp)

This rare photo, also by William Claxton, of Natalie with her father  is a touching one.


http://martirulli.blogspot.com/2011/03/natalie-wood-and-her-father.html


 ::MonkeyEek:: ME:

NW lost her father a year before she died.  



Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on January 20, 2013, 11:57:13 AM


Natalie Wood and Richard Gregson

vanessalove

Uploaded on May 1, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yBTMmp5wIY

ME: Update I believe this link expired, imo.






Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on January 21, 2013, 12:50:21 PM
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=yEtSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=unsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7032,4398316&dq=natalie+wood&hl=en (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=yEtSAAAAIBAJ&sjid=unsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7032,4398316&dq=natalie+wood&hl=en)

NW article in 1969.  She weighed only 98 pounds at the time of this article. 


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on February 02, 2018, 09:12:14 AM
Natalie Wood's drowning now considered a 'suspicious death'

LOS ANGELES (AP) — New witnesses have emerged in the 1981 drowning of actress Natalie Wood, prompting investigators to deem it a "suspicious death" and name her former husband, 87-year-old actor Robert Wagner, a "person of interest," Los Angeles sheriff's officials said Thursday.

For nearly four decades, mystery and speculation have swirled around the death of the actress who was nominated for three Academy Awards and starred in "West Side Story" and "Rebel Without a Cause."

She was on a yacht with Wagner, actor Christopher Walken and the boat captain on Thanksgiving weekend of 1981. After a night of drinking, her body was found floating in the waters off Southern California's Catalina Island. She was 43.

Investigators initially ruled it an accident but reopened the case in 2011 to see whether Wagner or anyone else played a role after the boat's captain said he heard the couple arguing the night of her disappearance. The coroner's office amended Wood's death certificate the next year to include "drowning and other undetermined factors." ::snipping3::

Wagner wrote in a 2008 memoir that he and Walken argued that night. He wrote that Walken went to bed and he stayed up for a while, but when he went to bed, he noticed that his wife and a dinghy that had been attached to the yacht were missing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-wagner-person-interest-natalie-wood-death-203939227.html




Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: Blonde on February 10, 2018, 05:40:56 PM

Why Is Natalie Wood's Mysterious Case Being Reopened? Here Are the Facts


 7 hours ago

It's been nearly 37 years since Natalie Wood drowned while boating with her husband, Robert Wagner, on Nov. 29, 1981, and her mysterious death is making headlines once again. After new details emerged during CBS's 48 Hours episode on Saturday, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department gave a press conference on Monday to update the public about the case. While the case still remains a "suspicious-circumstances death," Lieutenant John Corina added that more than 100 people have come forward with information since it was reopened in 2011. "We're closer to understanding what happened." As a result of the new witnesses — which include acquaintances of the couple, people staying on Catalina Island, and people near the boat where Natalie drowned — investigators have re-created a timeline of the events leading to her death. ::snipping3::

In that timeline, Robert was the last person with Natalie before she died, which Corina added makes him "a person of interest." While the investigators would love to hear Robert's "version of events," as his story has changed over the course of time, it seems unlikely he will talk. Corina said his department has made multiple attempts to reach out to Robert and his lawyer, but he has refused to speak with them. "We can never force him to talk to us," Corina explained. "He has rights, and he can not talk to us if he doesn't want to." ::snipping3::

https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/Why-Natalie-Wood-Case-Being-Reopened-44555948


Title: Re: Natalie Wood Death Book Triggered Homicide Investigation
Post by: seahorse on August 18, 2018, 02:53:27 PM
 


:smt006

Natalie Wood was warned about 'horrible' weather before tragic drowning, claims boat captain

By Stephanie Nolasco | Fox News  Hollywood Reporter August 17, 2018
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/08/17/natalie-wood-was-warned-about-horrible-weather-before-tragic-downing-claims-boat-captain.html


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PDF DOWNLOAD: Read Dennis Davern and Marti Rulli's Sheriff's Department Fiile (2011) - 17 pages. :shock:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/NatWood%20Marti%20Rulli%20PDF%20Redact%20Nov.%202011.pdf



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People  Staff  June 11, 2001 12:00 PM

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https://people.com/archive/restricted-lost-splendor-vol-55-no-23



ME:  :smt119  If a case of wine could talk we would all know the truth. Imo.