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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons) => Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin => Topic started by: klaasend on March 23, 2012, 04:36:00 PM



Title: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 - 5/10/12
Post by: klaasend on March 23, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/trayvon-martin-case-timeline-of-events/ (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/trayvon-martin-case-timeline-of-events/)

(http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/abc_ht_trayvon_martin_george_zimmerman_2_jt_120318_wblog.jpg)

Mar 22, 2012 12:00pm
Trayvon Martin Case: Timeline of Events

The slaying of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a Florida high school student who was shot and killed by George Zimmerman, a self-appointed neighborhood watch captain, has captured national attention.

Petitions calling for justice for Martin have exploded, amid allegations of racism and calls for more scrutiny into how local police  handled the investigation. George Zimmerman has yet to be charged in the case.

Below is a timeline of events:

Feb. 26: Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old Florida high school student, is found shot and killed, in Sanford, Fla., a community north of Orlando.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 24, 2012, 05:12:02 AM
http://www.hlntv.com/clusters/trayvon-martin-shooting

Photo's and news articles.

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 24, 2012, 06:06:35 AM
1.  Miami Herald, The (FL) - March 22, 2012

Trayvon Martin: a typical teen who loved video games, looked forward to prom,  Trayvon Martin’s death gripped the nation, but in life he was a typical Miami teen who texted his friends, loved video games and saw his future in aviation. 

  Trayvon Martin spent his 17th birthday, which would be his last, with his family. He ate a home-cooked meal followed by cake, opened presents that included Levis jeans, Adidas sneakers and a bottle of Issey Miyake cologne. He would be 17 for 21 days.
 
 ::snipping2::

 ::justice2NJ::

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 24, 2012, 06:13:39 AM
Trayvon Martin

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 He had transferred from Miami Carol City High School during his sophomore year to Michael Krop Senior High, where he was a junior.[18] [16] His English teacher, Michelle Kypriss, reported him as being "an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness."

 He hoped to become an aviation mechanic.[20] He was visiting his father and his father's fiance, Brandi Green, at her rented townhome in Sanford, Florida, on the day he was killed, after being suspended from school for 10 days. Kypriss stated that he "was not a violent or dangerous child", "not known for misbehaving", and "was suspended because he was late too many times." According to his father Tracy Martin, he was suspended because he was in an unauthorized area on school property, but he declined to offer more details. Trayvon Martin had no criminal record.

 ::snipping2::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: klaasend on March 24, 2012, 10:49:54 AM
This was just so wrong. Why do we give people like Zimmerman a license to kill?  Zimmerman was told to "stand down". 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 24, 2012, 05:05:43 PM


Jeb Bush says ‘stand your ground’ invalid in Trayvon Martin case  

GROMER JEFFERS JR. The Dallas Morning News
Staff Writer

gjeffers@dallasnews.com

Published: 23 March 2012 04:54 PM
RelatedSlain teen's friends say he never picked a fight

Editorial: Florida teen’s killer must be prosecuted
Hundreds rally at Paul Quinn College in support of slain Florida teen


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 ARLINGTON  — Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Friday that the “stand your ground” self-defense law he signed while in office should not apply to the case of a teenager who was killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer in his home state.

 “This law does not apply to this particular circumstance,” Bush said after an education panel discussion at the University of Texas at Arlington. “Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.”

 ::snipping2::
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/arlington/headlines/20120323-in-arlington-jeb-bush-says-stand-your-ground-invalid-in-trayvon-martin-case.ece


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 24, 2012, 05:31:29 PM
 

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::The Miami Herald
Trayvon Martin Saturday, 03.24.12


Witnesses in Trayvon Martin death heard cries before shot
By Frances Robles

Witnesses say they believe Trayvon Martin cried for help just before he was shot by a watch captain

 ::snipping2::
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/15/v-fullstory/2696446/trayvon-martin-case.html#storylink=cpy

 ~Ms. Kypriss - Trayvon's English Teacher
"He was an A and B Student who majored in Cheerfulness"


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 25, 2012, 05:45:13 AM
 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-24/trayvon-martin-case/53756296/1?csp=34news

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Martin's parents also met Friday with the newly-appointed special prosecutor in the case, and the family's legal team plans to pursue a civil case against the Twin Lakes homeowner's association, Parks said.

 ::snipping2::


  ::MonkeyEek::
ME:  You cannot just throw-a-way a life. 

Can you imagine, TM, was on a slab, in the Morgue for three days?  No one gave a hoot.

I wish them well on the civil case.
 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 25, 2012, 05:52:52 AM
This was just so wrong. Why do we give people like Zimmerman a license to kill?  Zimmerman was told to "stand down". 

Klaas,

Thank-you for the forum.


Trayvon's mother told a crowd in New York City:

 “That the effort for Trayron was not a black and white thing, but a right and wrong thing"





Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 25, 2012, 03:48:40 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0325/Trayvon-Martin-case-US-could-bring-hate-crime-charge-against-George-Zimmerman

Trayvon Martin case: US could bring hate crime charge against George Zimmerman

By Curt Anderson, Associated Press / March 25, 2012



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 25, 2012, 08:30:48 PM
http://elcomercio.pe/mundo/1392002/noticia-george-zimmerman-hombre-raices-peruanas-odiado-todo-eeuu

Google translation

George Zimmerman, the man hated Peruvian roots in the U.S.

 ::snipping2::
Saturday March 24, 2012 - 03:03 pm

The debate is on over the eye of George Zimmerman Peruvian roots. The object of repudiation of an entire country after having shot and killed an African American youth hooded walked the streets of Florida. The reason Martin Trayvon killed in Sanford on February 26 he claimed, was for defense.

While they say racist throughout the United States, the story of his life attenuates the serious charge that falls on their shoulders. So say his parents desperately trying to clean it.

But who is George Zimmerman?

Catholic faith, the son of an American father and mother white skin of Peruvian origin, his family has said that Zimmerman has color family. "It's Spanish and grew up in a multiracial family," said his father Robert Zimmerman in a letter to the media.


This citizen of 28 years lived at The Retreat, a gated community where, despite dozens of houses are stuck together harmoniously alongside each other, no one knows any detail of the life of the neighbor, according to AFP.

A source identified the mother Gladys George Zimmerman, as a Peruvian. According to this person, Gladys worked as an interpreter at the court of Virginia in this country, said yesterday the "Washington Post".

Another contradiction is his name, which would suggest that you have some link with the Jewish religion, but who lived around the Zimmerman remember them as "very Catholic."

"The media presentation about George as a racist can not be further from the truth," he wrote in a letter to the "Orlando Sentinel" his father without revealing the whereabouts of the defendant.

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE
This is a subject with a history of violence. He has received numerous complaints of domestic abuse between 2002 and 2006, and in all cases are defended by asserting that he had been attacked by their girlfriends.

At the moment, following a dialogue 911 in which a man from Peru called 'rogue' to Martin, the deceased's family and the entire American society want to see behind bars.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 10:57:57 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/trayvon-martin-case-timeline-of-events/


By ABC News
Mar 23, 2012 5:00pm

Trayvon Martin Case: Timeline of Events

Below is a timeline of events:

Feb. 26: Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old Florida high school student, is found shot and killed, in Sanford, Fla., a community north of Orlando.

Several eyewitnesses report to police that they heard a scuffle, then a cry for help, and then a gunshot.

According to the Sanford police report, George Zimmerman, 28, a self-appointed neighborhood watch captain, is found armed with a handgun, standing over Martin. He has a bloody nose and a wound in the back of his head. ::snipping2::

More....


 ::rhino::

Quote by Trayvon's mother speaking to a NYV crowd

"It is not a black and white thing, it is a right and wrong thing" 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 11:29:58 AM
http://elcomercio.pe/mundo/1392002/noticia-george-zimmerman-hombre-raices-peruanas-odiado-todo-eeuu

Google translation

George Zimmerman, the man hated Peruvian roots in the U.S.

 ::snipping2::
Saturday March 24, 2012 - 03:03 pm

The debate is on over the eye of George Zimmerman Peruvian roots. The object of repudiation of an entire country after having shot and killed an African American youth hooded walked the streets of Florida. The reason Martin Trayvon killed in Sanford on February 26 he claimed, was for defense.

While they say racist throughout the United States, the story of his life attenuates the serious charge that falls on their shoulders. So say his parents desperately trying to clean it.

But who is George Zimmerman?

Catholic faith, the son of an American father and mother white skin of Peruvian origin, his family has said that Zimmerman has color family. "It's Spanish and grew up in a multiracial family," said his father Robert Zimmerman in a letter to the media.


This citizen of 28 years lived at The Retreat, a gated community where, despite dozens of houses are stuck together harmoniously alongside each other, no one knows any detail of the life of the neighbor, according to AFP.

A source identified the mother Gladys George Zimmerman, as a Peruvian. According to this person, Gladys worked as an interpreter at the court of Virginia in this country, said yesterday the "Washington Post".

Another contradiction is his name, which would suggest that you have some link with the Jewish religion, but who lived around the Zimmerman remember them as "very Catholic."

"The media presentation about George as a racist can not be further from the truth," he wrote in a letter to the "Orlando Sentinel" his father without revealing the whereabouts of the defendant.

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE
This is a subject with a history of violence. He has received numerous complaints of domestic abuse between 2002 and 2006, and in all cases are defended by asserting that he had been attacked by their girlfriends.

At the moment, following a dialogue 911 in which a man from Peru called 'rogue' to Martin, the deceased's family and the entire American society want to see behind bars.


Grace-Land,

I guess LE must have trusted GZ ,so much, where reportly a background check was not run on him, going by this transcript. 



 ::justice2NJ::
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/24/se.01.html


CNN LIVE EVENT/SPECIAL

Trayvon Martin Killing

Aired March 24, 2012 - 19:00   ET



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Sanford Police Department's initial investigation was ridiculous. Here's a man standing with a weapon in his hand, and they take his word that he's never been arrested. Then they do not do a background check on Mr. Zimmerman.

How is that possible, when they stop me at a traffic light and do a background investigation on me? If Sanford police had done what they were supposed to do initially, we would not be here tonight because Mr. Zimmerman would have been arrested.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 11:49:26 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/million-hoodie-march-takes-union-square-protest-trayvon-martin-murder-article-1.1048522 ::snipping2::

The parents of the unarmed black Florida teenager slain three weeks ago by an overzealous neighborhood watchman joined a “million hoodie” march in Union Square Wednesday demanding the shooter’s arrest.

“Our son is your son,” Trayvon Martin’s mom Sybrina Fulton told a big crowd.

“This is not a black and white thing. This is a right and wrong thing.”
 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 12:07:47 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/thousands-expected-attend-rally-trayvon-martins-fa/nLcgs/

Updated: 11:16 a.m. Monday, March 26, 2012 | Posted: 5:40 a.m. Monday, March 26, 2012

 ::MonkeyEek::

SANFORD, Fla. —
Tens of thousands of people are expected to rally in Sanford on Monday at Fort Mellon Park to demand justice in Trayvon Martin's shooting death.

It's been one month since the shooting death of Martin, and the lack of arrest in the case has sparked national outrage ::snipping2::




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 26, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
Video at link

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57404360/zimmerman-friend-shooting-not-a-racial-incident/

March 26, 2012 7:50 AM
Zimmerman friend: Shooting not a racial incident

(CBS News) A friend of George Zimmerman, the Sanford, Fla., neighborhood watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin last month, said that the incident was not racially motivated, although he said the shooting has inspired a needed conversation about race relations in this country.

Appearing on "CBS This Morning," Joe Oliver said, "This incident on its own is not a racial incident; this story is a racial story ... It has sparked a dialogue that needs to be made, because I live with what they're talking about every day. But in this particular instance when it involves this happening, it was not racially motivated."

Oliver also told Erica Hill that Zimmerman, who he spoke to over the weekend, is frustrated that he cannot tell his story because of impending grand jury proceedings. He said that understanding exactly what happened between the time Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and the time the gun went off cannot be known until all the evidence is presented to the grand jury.

"The hard part about this," Oliver said, is that Zimmerman "wants to tell what happened but he's been instructed not to.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 26, 2012, 01:19:56 PM
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Trayvon-Martin-Punched-George-Zimmerman-Slammed-His-Head-Into-Sidewalk-Report-144230505.html

Trayvon Martin Punched George Zimmerman, Slammed His Head Into Sidewalk: Report
Teen attacked neighborhood watch volunteer night of shooting, report says
By Brian Hamacher
Monday, Mar 26, 2012  |  Updated 1:05 PM EDT

Trayvon Martin took down George Zimmerman with one punch then climbed on top of him and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times before the 17-year-old was shot to death by the community watch volunteer, authorities revealed Monday.

The latest report of the altercation between the Miami high school student and the 28-year-old man at a Sanford gated community on Feb. 26 has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities told the Orlando Sentinel.

Calls to the FBI, U.S. Justice Department and Sanford Police weren't immediately returned Monday.

Zimmerman told police he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Martin approached him from behind and the two got into a verbal altercation, the report said.

Martin punched Zimmerman in the nose and began beating him on the ground, leaving him bloodied and battered, authorities said, according to the report. Zimmerman told police he shot the unarmed Martin in self-defense.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 26, 2012, 01:33:00 PM
http://www.minnpost.com/christian-science-monitor/2012/03/who-george-zimmerman-and-why-did-he-shoot-trayvon-martin

Who is George Zimmerman, and why did he shoot Trayvon Martin?
By Patrik Jonsson, Christian Science Monitor | 08:48 am.

George Zimmerman, the 28-year-old former altar boy whose shooting of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, has caused a national uproar, has withdrawn into seclusion. His lawyer says he’s afraid for his life amid numerous death threats.

As Florida and federal investigators dig into the Feb. 26 shooting and the Sanford Police Department's decision to not charge Zimmerman with a crime, attempts to understand the shooting have focused on the extent to which Zimmerman's past experiences colored his decisions in the moments before Trayvon died.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 26, 2012, 01:39:21 PM
Two videos at link

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/26/10868250-trayvon-martin-case-more-difficult-prosecutor-says

Trayvon Martin case 'more difficult,' prosecutor says
By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services

Zimmerman's attorney, Craig Sonner, has indicated they will invoke Florida's "stand-your-ground" law, which provides significant leeway for someone to use deadly force if they feel their life is in danger. He says Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and a gash to the back of his head as a result of his encounter with Martin.

"The stand-your-ground law is one portion of justifiable use of deadly force," prosecutor Angela Corey told ABC News. "And what that means is that the state must go forward and be able to prove it's case beyond a reasonable doubt ... So it makes the case in general more difficult than a normal criminal case."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 26, 2012, 01:52:58 PM
http://www.wwno.org/post/new-black-panther-party-offers-10k-bounty-george-zimmerman

12:13 pm  Mon March 26, 2012
New Black Panther Party Offers $10K Bounty For George Zimmerman
By Eyder Peralta

Over the weekend, members of the New Black Panther Party showed just how tense the situation in the Trayvon Martin shooting has gotten: They offered a $10,000 bounty for the capture of George Zimmerman, who shot and killed the unarmed teenager.
 
The Orlando Sentinel reports that Mikhail Muhammad announced the reward during a protest on Saturday, and when a Sentinel reporter asked if he was inciting violence, Muhammad said, "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."
  ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 26, 2012, 02:23:53 PM
Trayvon Martin

snip

 He had transferred from Miami Carol City High School during his sophomore year to Michael Krop Senior High, where he was a junior.[18] [16] His English teacher, Michelle Kypriss, reported him as being "an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness."

 He hoped to become an aviation mechanic.[20] He was visiting his father and his father's fiance, Brandi Green, at her rented townhome in Sanford, Florida, on the day he was killed, after being suspended from school for 10 days. Kypriss stated that he "was not a violent or dangerous child", "not known for misbehaving", and "was suspended because he was late too many times." According to his father Tracy Martin, he was suspended because he was in an unauthorized area on school property, but he declined to offer more details. Trayvon Martin had no criminal record.

 ::snipping2::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Family-Pot-linked-to-Trayvon-Martin-suspension/-/1637132/9704204/-/ke8ryu/-/index.html

Family: Pot linked to Trayvon Martin suspension

You know, there is a big difference between being late for class and having pot.  I now question what else the family haven't been complete clear on.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 26, 2012, 02:25:20 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Report-Trayvon-Martin-decked-Zimmerman/-/1637132/9700328/-/s9um5iz/-/index.html

Report: Trayvon Martin 'decked' Zimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 02:45:54 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Report-Trayvon-Martin-decked-Zimmerman/-/1637132/9700328/-/s9um5iz/-/index.html

Report: Trayvon Martin 'decked' Zimmerman

I would deck him too if he was stocking me. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 02:46:46 PM
http://www.pointecentralfloridarealty.com/The-Retreat-At-Twin-Lakes-6-6067.html

Would this be the place where the incident happened?  Thank-you


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 26, 2012, 02:50:49 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Report-Trayvon-Martin-decked-Zimmerman/-/1637132/9700328/-/s9um5iz/-/index.html

Report: Trayvon Martin 'decked' Zimmerman

I would deck him too if he was stocking me. ::MonkeyHaHa::
From the way this is reading he wasn't stalking.
Quote
Citing authorities, the Orlando Sentinel reported Zimmerman told police that Martin confronted him as Zimmerman was returning to his SUV after following the teen.  The report states that the two exchanged words and Martin knocked Zimmerman to the ground with one punch and began beating him.

Now, that lends a totally different flavor to the whole tale.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 03:48:48 PM


http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/26/rallies-scream-outs-planned-coast-to-coast-in-support-of-trayvon-martin/comment-page-6/

 ::MonkeyEek::

List of Rally's today in: 

Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Georgia, Florida, Washington,DC, Iowa.


 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 03:53:16 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Report-Trayvon-Martin-decked-Zimmerman/-/1637132/9700328/-/s9um5iz/-/index.html

Report: Trayvon Martin 'decked' Zimmerman

I would deck him too if he was stocking me. ::MonkeyHaHa::
From the way this is reading he wasn't stalking.
Quote
Citing authorities, the Orlando Sentinel reported Zimmerman told police that Martin confronted him as Zimmerman was returning to his SUV after following the teen.  The report states that the two exchanged words and Martin knocked Zimmerman to the ground with one punch and began beating him.

Now, that lends a totally different flavor to the whole tale.

Hi Kittymom,

I am going by what Zimmerman, told the 911 Operator,he was going to follow him, it is on the tape.  We need to wait and see. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 26, 2012, 04:48:30 PM


http://www.smh.com.au/world/who-is-george-zimmerman-20120325-1vs1a.html

 ::snipping2::
Dr Laurence Miller, a Palm Beach County clinical psychologist who works with local police agencies, said he believes Zimmerman likely was acting out the "whole TV cop role in his head" when he confronted Trayvon.

 ::snipping2::

ME:  Zimmerman has made this world a worse place to be.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2012, 05:23:08 PM
Trayvon Martin

snip

 He had transferred from Miami Carol City High School during his sophomore year to Michael Krop Senior High, where he was a junior.[18] [16] His English teacher, Michelle Kypriss, reported him as being "an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness."

 He hoped to become an aviation mechanic.[20] He was visiting his father and his father's fiance, Brandi Green, at her rented townhome in Sanford, Florida, on the day he was killed, after being suspended from school for 10 days. Kypriss stated that he "was not a violent or dangerous child", "not known for misbehaving", and "was suspended because he was late too many times." According to his father Tracy Martin, he was suspended because he was in an unauthorized area on school property, but he declined to offer more details. Trayvon Martin had no criminal record.

 ::snipping2::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Family-Pot-linked-to-Trayvon-Martin-suspension/-/1637132/9704204/-/ke8ryu/-/index.html

Family: Pot linked to Trayvon Martin suspension

You know, there is a big difference between being late for class and having pot.  I now question what else the family haven't been complete clear on.

 ::rhino::



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2012, 05:30:26 PM
Trayvon Martin

snip

According to his father Tracy Martin, he was suspended because he was in an unauthorized area on school property, but he declined to offer more details. Trayvon Martin had no criminal record.

 ::snipping2::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

The story changes.

Janet

++++

Pot linked to Trayvon Martin suspension, his family says
Published March 26, 2012


SANFORD, Fla. –  Trayvon Martin had been suspended from school for marijuana when the unarmed teenager was shot to death by a neighborhood watch volunteer, a family spokesman said Monday.

Martin, 17, was suspended by Miami-Dade County schools because traces of marijuana were found in a plastic baggie in his book bag, family spokesman Ryan Julison said. Martin was shot Feb. 26 by George Zimmerman while he was visiting Sanford with his father.

"We maintain that regardless of the specific reason for the suspension, it's got nothing to do with the events that unfolded on Feb. 26," Julison said.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/26/pot-linked-to-trayvon-martin-suspension-his-family-says/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2012, 05:34:23 PM
Trayvon Martin Shooter Told Cops Teenager Went For His Gun

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written statement that Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a police source told ABC News.
Zimmerman had claimed he had called police about Martin, whom he found suspicious, then went back to his car when Martin attacked him, punching him.

The new information is the most complete version yet of what Zimmerman claims happened on the night of Feb. 26 when he shot and killed the teenager.

In addition, an eyewitness, 13-year-old Austin Brown, told police he saw a man fitting Zimmerman's description lying on the grass moaning and crying for help just seconds before he heard the gunshot that killed Martin.

The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning. He was not arrested

<snipped>

http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-shooter-told-cops-teenager-went-gun-030349812--abc-news.html

 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 26, 2012, 06:02:32 PM
President Obama's press conference regarding this tragic event that resulted in the death of teenager can only be considered interference in an ongoing investigation.

There are two sets of parents who have been affected ... one son is dead ... the other son is demonized without a conviction of guilt.  However ... Obama appears to be  aligning himself with only one set of parents.  Something is not right.

Janet

+++++

The Face of Obama's Son
Kevin McCullough
March 25, 2012


I was in the green room on the 12th floor of Fox News building in New York on Friday when I heard the soundbite the first time, "If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon..."

That simple statement had been preceded by nearly two minutes of stating deep and profound "outrage" and "seriousness" in the need to "insure" that "this matter would be investigated to the fullest."

I asked commentator Cal Thomas who was sitting on one of the sofas in the room, "How many child murders have taken place since he took office?"

Cal shrugged his shoulders as if to say, "I have no idea."

"And how many press ops did the president use to comment on a single one of them before now?" I continued.

"Ah yes, but it is an election year," replied Thomas.

<snipped>

http://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2012/03/25/the_face_of_obamas_son


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 26, 2012, 10:45:21 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/27/us-usa-florida-shooting-trademark-idUSBRE82Q00X20120327

Mother of slain Florida teenager seeks trademarks
MIAMI | Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:51pm EDT

MIAMI (Reuters) - The mother of the Florida teenager shot and killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer, in a case with racial overtones that has resonated across the United States, is seeking trademark rights to slogans based on his name.

Sybrina Fulton, the mother of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, filed the trademark requests on March 21, according to the online database of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

In the filings, which were confirmed by Fulton's attorney Kimra Major-Morris, she seeks legal rights to the slogans "Justice for Trayvon" and "I Am Trayvon."

The request to the Patent and Trademark Office said the slogans, and the corresponding trademarks, could be used in matters involving such things as DVDs and CDs "featuring and promoting Trayvon Martin."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 26, 2012, 11:19:43 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager

Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head
7:36 p.m. EST, March 26, 2012|
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

 ::snipping2::
One-minute gap
On Feb. 26, when Zimmerman first spotted Trayvon, he called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Trayvon as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.

Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.

There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they're not sure what happened.

Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.

Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police. Trayvon then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose, according to the account he gave police.

Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.

Zimmerman began yelling for help.

Several witnesses heard those cries, and there has been a dispute about whether they came from Zimmerman or Trayvon.

Lawyers for Trayvon's family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.

One witness, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him — and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.

Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest at very close range, according to authorities.

When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head.

Paramedics gave him first aid but he said he did not need to go to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 06:55:42 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/26/ng.01.html

NANCY GRACE

What Happened to Trayvon Martin?

Aired March 26, 2012 - 20:00   ET


 ::snipping2::

HORTON: And what you have to ask yourself, I don`t think anyone is asking this question. If he was following him and Trayvon -- he`s -- they say he was 240 pounds, Trayvon was 145 pounds, give or take five pounds. If he turned around and Trayvon hit him, do you really think Trayvon could knock him down and then bang his head on the floor and hold him down, that that would give him justice to say, oh, I`ve got to shoot him?

 ::snipping2::
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 07:07:07 AM
'Ed Show' playbook: Mon., Mar. 26
By Steve Frank -  Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:17 PM EDT

http://ed.msnbc.msn.com/ (video clips)

Trymaine Lee, Senior Reporter with The Huffington Post, and Walter Zalisko, Retired Police Chief from Florida, President of Global Investigative Group, are both in Florida tonight with the latest details.

Trayvon’s parents are forced to defend their dead 17-year-old from smears in the conservative media.  Turner Clayton Jr, Seminole County NAACP President, also joins Ed from Florida with reaction.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush defends the “Stand Your Ground” law he signed in 2005.  Dan Gelber, former Florida state Senator and former federal prosecutor, will weigh in on that from Miami.
 ::snipping2::

ME:

73 percent of us feel we are cheated out of justice. ::rhino::

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 07:33:52 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46830953/#.T21dIRH2b2Y Edit to add link MB http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46830953/#.T21dIRH2b2Y
By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON and JOHN SCHWARTZ
 
updated 3/23/2012 1:00:37 AM ET 2012-03-23T05:00:37
 ::snipping2::

She set up a visit for the next month at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, a gated community that had been dealing with a string of burglaries. When 25 residents showed up, a decent turnout, she had the residents introduce themselves; after all, people join the groups to look out for each other. She then gave a PowerPoint presentation and distributed a handbook. As she always does, she emphasized what a neighborhood watch is — and what it is not.

In every presentation, “I go through what the rules and responsibilities are,” she said Thursday. The volunteers’ role, she said, is “being the eyes and ears” for the police, “not the vigilante.” Members of a neighborhood watch “are not supposed to confront anyone,” she said. “We get paid to get into harm’s way. You don’t do that. You just call them from the safety of your home or your vehicle.”

Using a gun in the neighborhood watch role would be out of the question, she said in an interview.

 ::snipping2::


"This is not a black and white thing, it is a right and wrong thing"


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 07:34:53 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46830953/#.T21dIRH2b2Y

Sorry, I forgot the link.  ::dogwag::
(Added link to original post.  MB)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 07:39:23 AM


http://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-justice-department-investigate-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=15955985


According to Chris Tutko, the director of the National Neighborhood Watch Program, there are about 22,000 registered watch groups nationwide, and Zimmerman was not part of a registered group -- another fact the police were not aware of at the time of the incident.


 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 27, 2012, 08:42:32 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/ap/crime/trayvon-martin-family-criticizes-info-leaks/nLdLz/
New claims cast Trayvon Martin as the aggressor
Quote
Meanwhile, Martin's parents are blaming police for leaking information about their son being suspended for marijuana and details about the fight he had with Zimmerman that portrayed the teen as the aggressor.
Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, and family attorneys said Monday that it was part of an effort to demonize her son.

1.  Parents lied about why TM was suspended. 
2.  For the sake of justice, both sides of the fight should be told.
3.  From the media reports I've seen, Z is being demonized all over this country.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 27, 2012, 08:52:30 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/trayvon-martin-shooting-details-emerge-facebook-twitter-accounts-180103647.html
Trayvon Martin shooting: New details emerge from Facebook and Twitter accounts, witness testimony
Quote
As Dan Linehan, a blogger at Wagist.com, pointed out, correspondence with Martin on Twitter before he died alludes to an incident with a bus driver. "Yu ain't tell me you swung on a bus driver," Martin's cousin wrote to him on Feb. 21.


 

The article alludes to this being another Duke case.  There is just something buggy about this whole situation.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 27, 2012, 08:57:54 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-school-having-burglary-tool.html
Trayvon Martin was suspended from school for having a 'burglary tool' and women's jewellery in his backpack
 




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 27, 2012, 09:05:55 AM
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/235279/40/Trayvon-Martins-killer-fears-for-his-life
Trayvon Martin's killer fears for his life

Quote
"He is one of the most reviled people in America at this moment, but we don't know enough about the case," says Frank Farley, a Temple University psychologist who studies extreme behavior. "Maybe he's a horrendous racist and murderer. Maybe not. This case has given a whole new meaning to guilty until proven innocent."

Quote
A Sanford, Fla., police statement said the newspaper story was "consistent" with evidence turned over to prosecutors. A police report says Zimmerman's back was wet as if he had been on the ground and he had a bloody nose. The report says Zimmerman said, "I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me."

Quote
Orlando attorney Jose Baez, who represented Casey Anthony, the young mother acquitted of killing her toddler in one of last year's most sensational trials, said it was appropriate for Zimmerman to avoid the spotlight.
   ::MonkeyNoNo::  Ambulance chaser just can't stay out of it.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 27, 2012, 09:09:53 AM
http://www.examiner.com/unsolved-cases-in-national/trayvon-martin-case-anderson-cooper-new-black-panther-leader-clash

Trayvon Martin case: Anderson Cooper, New Black Panther leader clash
 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 27, 2012, 09:14:02 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/ap/crime/trayvon-martin-family-criticizes-info-leaks/nLdLz/
New claims cast Trayvon Martin as the aggressor
Quote
Meanwhile, Martin's parents are blaming police for leaking information about their son being suspended for marijuana and details about the fight he had with Zimmerman that portrayed the teen as the aggressor.
Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, and family attorneys said Monday that it was part of an effort to demonize her son.

1.  Parents lied about why TM was suspended. 
2.  For the sake of justice, both sides of the fight should be told.
3.  From the media reports I've seen, Z is being demonized all over this country.



I agree entirely.  I would like to hear that 911 call again where you can hear someone yelling for help.  When I heard it the first time (on the news) I assumed that it was TM because of how the news portrayed it...now I would like to listen again and see if I can tell.  I hate to say this...but I think that it's the truth...this is a black and white thing...AND a right and wrong thing.  Throw bananas if you will...it's just my humble (maybe right maybe wrong opinion).


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 27, 2012, 09:20:32 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/ap/crime/trayvon-martin-family-criticizes-info-leaks/nLdLz/
New claims cast Trayvon Martin as the aggressor
Quote
Meanwhile, Martin's parents are blaming police for leaking information about their son being suspended for marijuana and details about the fight he had with Zimmerman that portrayed the teen as the aggressor.
Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, and family attorneys said Monday that it was part of an effort to demonize her son.

1.  Parents lied about why TM was suspended. 
2.  For the sake of justice, both sides of the fight should be told.
3.  From the media reports I've seen, Z is being demonized all over this country.



I agree entirely.  I would like to hear that 911 call again where you can hear someone yelling for help.  When I heard it the first time (on the news) I assumed that it was TM because of how the news portrayed it...now I would like to listen again and see if I can tell.  I hate to say this...but I think that it's the truth...this is a black and white thing...AND a right and wrong thing.  Throw bananas if you will...it's just my humble (maybe right maybe wrong opinion).

But, in my defense now.  I don't know the facts of this case.  To me at one point it sounded like Zimmerman was following him around when he should have backed off and let cops take care of it.  He should not have used deadly force, he should not have been chasing him with a gun.  If I were being followed by Zimmerman I would have fought him.  So, I'm not saying it is okay even if he were the one on the ground.  I am just saying that I think that this has become a black and white thing unfortunately, instead of JUST a right and wrong thing.  AND it's sad that the media has played the race thing...they have also automatically portrayed the shooter one way and the victim another...for example the pictures that were displayed.  Now, we find out the parents lied about why he was suspended.  We find out that he was carrying burglary tools at one point and so on...this doesn't mean he deserved to be shot by a neighborhood watch guy...it should have been left for the police.  I don't know if I am getting my point across.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 27, 2012, 09:27:00 AM
Your point is probably like mine...there are still questions to be answered. 

And the parents of the deceased are not the people to answer them.  They did not tell the whole truth about their son.  They supplied photos that are years old and cast him as a little innocent boy.  They've now come out and accused LE of demonizing their son. 

Let LE investigate and determine whether charges should be brought based on the evidence in the case.  But wait, isn't that what happened at the time of the incident?  Ok, let the state LE investigate WITHOUT undue pressure from media looking to cash in on a story and 'activists' looking for 15 minutes in front of a camera. 

Justice can't be served if the whole truth isn't thoroughly investigated.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 27, 2012, 09:32:02 AM
Your point is probably like mine...there are still questions to be answered. 

And the parents of the deceased are not the people to answer them.  They did not tell the whole truth about their son.  They supplied photos that are years old and cast him as a little innocent boy.  They've now come out and accused LE of demonizing their son. 

Let LE investigate and determine whether charges should be brought based on the evidence in the case.  But wait, isn't that what happened at the time of the incident?  Ok, let the state LE investigate WITHOUT undue pressure from media looking to cash in on a story and 'activists' looking for 15 minutes in front of a camera. 

Justice can't be served if the whole truth isn't thoroughly investigated.


Yes, very well said! 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 27, 2012, 11:06:26 AM
Agree...lots of unanswered questions..racism goes both ways. As witnessed on Anderson's show last night. Shocking how much hatred for whites that Black Panther guy has..very disturbing. and to proudly speak of it on national tv...where does all this hate come from? Mom has already copywrited (?) Trayvon's name because there is money to be made on it? At least that is what I thought that I heard on one of the talk shows...not sure how I feel about all of this except that a young man is dead and he should not be! Zimmerman should have let the police do thir job, they were on the way after all. 
I just think that some of the self appointed 'leaders' should not be so fast to jump on the 'race' wagon...and enciting further division among our people.
Peace out ...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 27, 2012, 02:59:01 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/03/27/witness-reportedly-saw-trayvon-martin-beating-george-zimmerman-shooting

Witness reportedly saw Trayvon Martin beating George Zimmerman before shooting
Published March 26, 2012 | Hannity | Sean Hannity
Special Guests: Shannon Butler, FOX 35 Orlando & Joe Oliver, friend of shooter

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," March 26, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
 ::snipping2::
HANNITY: And the man who does not want his identity revealed says that when he came upon the fight, Zimmerman was on the bottom and he was the one yelling for help.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: The guy on the bottom who I believe had a red sweater on was yelling to me help, help, and I told him to stop and I was calling 911. I got upstairs and looked down, the person that was on top beating up the other guy was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
HANNITY: But other people have said that they thought it was Trayvon yelling for help. In the end, the case may come down to the interpretation of Florida's stand your ground self defense law which many, including the law's authors, have said does not apply because Zimmerman had been following Trayvon prior to the fight and Trayvon had been running away.
 
Now, listen carefully to part of Zimmerman's call to police as he followed Trayvon in his truck. When Trayvon starts to run away, you can hear Zimmerman get out of the truck to follow him. You can listen for the door opening, the car beeping to indicate the door had opened, and shutting as Zimmerman follows on foot.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
OPERATOR: Sanford Police Department.
 
GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, TRAYVON MARTIN'S SHOOTER: Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there's a real suspicious guy. This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drug or something. He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is. (EXPLETIVE) He's running.
 
OPERATOR: He's running. Which way is he running?
 
ZIMMERMAN: Down towards the other entrance of the neighborhood. (EXPLETIVE)
 
OPERATOR: Are you following him?
 
ZIMMERMAN: Yeah.

OPERATOR: OK. We don't need you to do that.
 
ZIMMERMAN: OK.
 
OPERATOR: All right. Sir, what is your name?
 
ZIMMERMAN: George. He ran.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 27, 2012, 03:17:16 PM
Video at link

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/26/justice/florida-teen-shooting-bounty/index.html

Separatist black group stands by bounty offer for man who killed Florida teen
By the CNN Wire Staff
March 27, 2012 -- Updated 0226 GMT

(CNN) -- The separatist New Black Panther Party, described as a hate group by a civil rights organization, is standing by its $10,000 bounty offer for the capture of the man who shot Trayvon Martin, despite vehement opposition from, among others, Martin's family.

"We're here to make them do their job," organizer Mikhail Muhammad said on Monday. "We will support Trayvon's family, but we are military."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/21/2706141/trayvon-martins-shooter-had-a.html

Georgie is no Angel.

2005-DR-012980-O  ZUAZO, VERONICA vs. ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE M 08/09/2005
Div 44

44, TBA Domestic Violence
Closed - SRS 

2005-DR-013069-O  ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE M vs. ZUAZO, VERONICA A 08/10/2005
Div 46

White, Keith F Domestic Violence
Closed - SRS 


http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/default.aspx




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 04:48:47 PM
Finally, I found out what Georgie did for a living. I just need to find out what is a "loan review analyst" ::MonkeyEek::


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120326072144AAEWZ8N

Zimmerman's most recent employer, a Maitland, Florida company called Digital Risk, issued a statement saying the company "echoes the sadness and heartache expressed by so many, this is an absolute tragedy," but saying that the firm's policy is not to comment on the status of its employees or their employment history.

However, the company confirmed that since the shooting, Zimmerman had not been at the company and would not be. Zimmerman was a "loan review analyst" for the mortgage risk assessment firm, according to the Tampa Times."

And,

"Zimmerman was attending Seminole State College, but since the incident, the school has asked him to leave, for the safety of other students, given the death threats against him."


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120326072144AAEWZ8N



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 27, 2012, 05:50:56 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-dogged-disciplinary-problems-school/story?id=16011674

Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted Manslaughter Charge
By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC)
SANFORD, Fla. March 27, 2012

The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.
 
But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.
 
Police brought Zimmerman into the station for questioning for a few hours on the night of the shooting, said Zimmerman's attorney, despite his request for medical attention first. Ultimately they had to accept Zimmerman's claim of self defense. He was never charged with a crime.
 
Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.
 
Zimmerman, 28, claimed he shot Martin, 17, in self defense.

One complicating factor in the investigation was that the first detective to interview Zimmerman about the shooting was a narcotics officer rather than a homicide detective.
 
The State Attorney's office said only "no comment" when asked about the affidavit today.
  ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 05:55:17 PM
Trayvon Benjamin Martin  6'3" and weighed 140 pounds at the time of his death.

George Michael Zimmerman  was 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m) tall and weighed approximately 250 lb.[

Georgie weighed approximately 100 pounds more than Trayvon.

I would like to see a reenactment in Court, of how these guys rustled on the lawn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 06:01:36 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-dogged-disciplinary-problems-school/story?id=16011674

Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted Manslaughter Charge
By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC)
SANFORD, Fla. March 27, 2012

The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.
 
But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.
 
Police brought Zimmerman into the station for questioning for a few hours on the night of the shooting, said Zimmerman's attorney, despite his request for medical attention first. Ultimately they had to accept Zimmerman's claim of self defense. He was never charged with a crime.
 
Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.
 
Zimmerman, 28, claimed he shot Martin, 17, in self defense.

One complicating factor in the investigation was that the first detective to interview Zimmerman about the shooting was a narcotics officer rather than a homicide detective.
 
The State Attorney's office said only "no comment" when asked about the affidavit today.
  ::snipping2::

Thank-you Grace-land,

I saw the article but did not find the document ::MonkeyEek::
Where is the affidavit?  Does Florida's, Sunshine Law, apply to the document? 
Thank-you  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 06:16:11 PM
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63328&page=39


Hat Tip to Athena!  ::monkeywine2::

Originally Posted by Athena 

If you all have not looked at this site - you may want to. This is the person who made the map and I did link to this in the links thread with the map but he took photos of the actual area. Interesting how he describes the path that GZ had to take to where TM's body was found.


http://marinadedave.com/



Thanks also to Marinade Dave ::justice2NJ::





Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 27, 2012, 10:21:52 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/032712-trayvon-martins-parents-in-washington-for-racial-profiling-briefing

Police investigated Trayvon Martin over jewelry
Updated: Tuesday, 27 Mar 2012, 7:36 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 27 Mar 2012, 1:22 PM EDT
 
SANFORD, Fla. (AP) - A Florida police department says women's jewelry found in Trayvon Martin's school backpack last year didn't match any that had been reported stolen.

The Miami Herald obtained a Miami-Dade Schools Police Department report that showed the slain teenager was suspended in October for writing obscene graffiti on a door at his high school.
 ::snipping2::
The report says that during a search of his backpack, security officers found jewelry and a screwdriver that they felt could be a burglary tool. Martin told them a friend had given him the jewelry, but wouldn't say who.

Miami-Dade Police confirmed Tuesday that the jewelry didn't match any that had been reported stolen.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/032712-trayvon-martins-parents-in-washington-for-racial-profiling-briefing#ixzz1qNEdZhe1


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 11:10:31 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/joe-oliver-george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin_n_1378390.html


 ::snipping2::
He couldn't stop crying. He's a caring human being," Joe Oliver, 53, a former television news reporter and anchor in Orlando  who has known Zimmerman for several years, told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"I mean, he took a man's life and he has no idea what to do about it. He's extremely remorseful about it," Oliver said, relating stories told to him by Zimmerman's mother-in-law, a close friend of Oliver's wife.

 ::snipping2::

Wow! Joe is a former anchor?  You cannot get him off TV, he obviously, misses being the center of attention  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 27, 2012, 11:28:47 PM
http://www.levipageshow.blogspot.com/

Pat Brown is a guest, rewind and listen, nothing jaw dropping, yet.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 28, 2012, 12:30:13 AM
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/sanford-police-had-requested-arrest-warrant-for-george-zimmerman-in/1222259

Sanford police had requested arrest warrant for George Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin shooting
By Frances Robles, Miami Herald
In Print: Wednesday, March 28, 2012

SANFORD — Despite public claims that there wasn't enough probable cause to make a criminal case in the Trayvon Martin killing, early in the investigation the Sanford Police Department requested an arrest warrant from the Seminole County State Attorney's Office, the special prosecutor in the case told the Miami Herald on Tuesday.

A Sanford police incident report shows the case was categorized as "homicide/negligent manslaughter."

The State Attorney's Office held off pending further review, the Herald reported.
 ::snipping2::
A spokeswoman for the city said the Police Department would make no further comments on the ongoing investigation.

The FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement took over the case. An FDLE investigator and the new prosecutor were spotted in Zimmerman's neighborhood Tuesday interviewing witnesses
 ::snipping2::
Witness statements and a doctor's report corroborated his injuries, Lee said. A police report said he had a bloody nose and a grass-stained shirt.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 28, 2012, 06:32:36 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/28/elderly-couple-forced-out-home-after-tweet-claims-killer-trayvon-miller-lives/#ixzz1qONII6KM?test=latestnews
Elderly couple forced out of home after tweet claims killer of Trayvon Martin lives there


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When William Zimmerman pleaded with the man who tweeted the address, the man responded, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" along with an obscenity.
 

And this is what happens when people refuse to look at both sides of any issue.  Innocent people are hurt.  I hope they sue every one who tweeted that addy.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 28, 2012, 06:36:42 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/trayvon-martin-department-justice-investigate-enti/nLd95/
Trayvon Martin: Department of Justice to investigate entire Sanford PD

I'd love to know just how much of this is political. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 28, 2012, 06:49:50 AM
Trayvon Benjamin Martin  6'3" and weighed 140 pounds at the time of his death.

George Michael Zimmerman  was 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m) tall and weighed approximately 250 lb.[

Georgie weighed approximately 100 pounds more than Trayvon.

I would like to see a reenactment in Court, of how these guys rustled on the lawn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Friend-George-Zimmerman-scared-for-his-life/-/1637132/9722180/-/e55273z/-/index.html

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Oliver: "That's a perfect example of all the misinformation that is out there. Based upon his 2005 arrest, a mug shot says he weights 250 pounds and that doesn't say he is 5 feet, 8 inches and 170 pounds.

Wikipedia :  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Quote
Welcome to Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 28, 2012, 06:55:08 AM
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/former-wesh-anchor-defends-trayvon-martin-shooter-this-was-not-a-racial-incident_b43322

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Former WESH Anchor Defends Trayvon Martin Shooter: ‘This Was Not A Racial Incident’


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 28, 2012, 07:23:43 AM
http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Trayvon-protesters-ransack-store/-/1717324/9719674/-/xctonpz/-/index.html
Minutes after walking out of their school Friday, a large group of students walked through the streets of North Miami Beach. Along the way, they stopped at a Walgreens at 163rd Street and 15th Avenue at about 10:40 a.m.

Surveillance video shows dozens of teenagers running through the store. Police said about 80 to 100 students stormed in, ransacking the shelves, before the school's vice principal ordered everyone outside.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 28, 2012, 07:24:16 AM
oops...that was supposed to be a quote not bolded.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 28, 2012, 08:41:27 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/28/elderly-couple-forced-out-home-after-tweet-claims-killer-trayvon-miller-lives/#ixzz1qONII6KM?test=latestnews
Elderly couple forced out of home after tweet claims killer of Trayvon Martin lives there


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When William Zimmerman pleaded with the man who tweeted the address, the man responded, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" along with an obscenity.
 

And this is what happens when people refuse to look at both sides of any issue.  Innocent people are hurt.  I hope they sue every one who tweeted that addy.

Absolutely.  How sad for this couple. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 28, 2012, 09:03:56 AM
Does it make me a bad person when I say that there is something about Trayvon's mother that puts me off? Her speeches from the beginning seem rehearsed and undertones that I can not quite figure out. Have felt that way from the moment I first listened to her....then not showing current pics of her son, not wanting the true reason of his suspensions from school to come out etc..not trying to blame the victim, Trayvon at all here..but maybe the whole truth is not out there? Dunno...I still think that Zimmerman was the first aggressor here..police had been called, he should have backed off. Then neither he nor Trayvon would be in the horrible position that they are in.
 Not to take away from any of the grief that she is feeling...as a mom, my heart goes out to her. Her son did not deserve to die.  I hope justice is served for his sake.   But I also want the true whole picture to come out.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 28, 2012, 09:22:33 AM
Does it make me a bad person when I say that there is something about Trayvon's mother that puts me off? Her speeches from the beginning seem rehearsed and undertones that I can not quite figure out. Have felt that way from the moment I first listened to her....then not showing current pics of her son, not wanting the true reason of his suspensions from school to come out etc..not trying to blame the victim, Trayvon at all here..but maybe the whole truth is not out there? Dunno...I still think that Zimmerman was the first aggressor here..police had been called, he should have backed off. Then neither he nor Trayvon would be in the horrible position that they are in.
 Not to take away from any of the grief that she is feeling...as a mom, my heart goes out to her. Her son did not deserve to die.  I hope justice is served for his sake.   But I also want the true whole picture to come out.


I understand what you are saying.  I try to put myself in her shoes.  I just don't know enough of the FACTS about the case to go one way or another.  I don't think it's right to display the shooter in one light (his past mug shot, right?) and the victim in another (his like 5th grade football picture)...and lie about his own criminal background and be in support of these activists shouting all of this crap...when it isn't even known if this was a hate crime.  I say crap...only because I just don't see the racism anymore.  I think if it's just left alone...and treat everyone equal and stop trying to single it out...that we will all be fine (but, that's my theory and humble opinion ONLY). I don't know why they are saying anything about black and white...because the shooter isn't even white.  I know that I would be angry...that my son was gone.  So, I don't really know what I would do.  I am also white and I have never really had to deal with being an activist for my race.  If that makes sense?  This is a subject that is so touchy and I never know if I am going to offend anyone...so please...any words that I have said are NOT meant to be offensive.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 28, 2012, 09:34:49 AM
Labubske...seems like you get me...whew! I also feel that it is a touchy subject and I don't want to offend anyone either..
Thanks


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 28, 2012, 09:46:18 AM
Labubske...seems like you get me...whew! I also feel that it is a touchy subject and I don't want to offend anyone either..
Thanks

Ha!  Yeah, I was closing my eyes as I opened the reply post to this...and slowly opening them to see if I had offended anyone.  I hate that it's that way.  I edit papers for older students that have returned to school and I have several that I do for black people (I only say that because of what I am about to write) and I can feel the anger in some of their writing.  They go to an all black college and they are strong in their activism.  Which is great...go for it.  But, I can feel the anger and hostility and I want to ask them if they really do still see racism against them...because I just haven't seen it.  I would really like to know...or if they are just so use to being on the defensive that they just cannot let the anger go.  I could not imagine. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: JOLfan on March 28, 2012, 12:38:54 PM
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63328&page=39


Hat Tip to Athena!  ::monkeywine2::

Originally Posted by Athena 

If you all have not looked at this site - you may want to. This is the person who made the map and I did link to this in the links thread with the map but he took photos of the actual area. Interesting how he describes the path that GZ had to take to where TM's body was found.


http://marinadedave.com/



Thanks also to Marinade Dave ::justice2NJ::





I have been waiting of a map to get this straight in my head.  Thanks for bringing the link over!  If this map is correct...how can Zimmerman say that Trayvon attacked him as he was getting into his truck?  This would show that, if true, Trayvon attacked him then Zimmerman got up all bloody and hurt and chased him to where the shooting was.  This case is so frustrating!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: JOLfan on March 28, 2012, 12:40:52 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/28/elderly-couple-forced-out-home-after-tweet-claims-killer-trayvon-miller-lives/#ixzz1qONII6KM?test=latestnews
Elderly couple forced out of home after tweet claims killer of Trayvon Martin lives there


Quote
When William Zimmerman pleaded with the man who tweeted the address, the man responded, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" along with an obscenity.
 

And this is what happens when people refuse to look at both sides of any issue.  Innocent people are hurt.  I hope they sue every one who tweeted that addy.

I think Spike Lee should pay for security for this couple until this is resolved...since he was the one that retweeted it to his followers, most of whom would not have seen it otherwise. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: JOLfan on March 28, 2012, 12:50:59 PM
This should be an interesting read!  I haven't looked yet but I wanted everyone to have a chance to check them out!

http://globalgrind.com/news/Trayvon-Martin-Police-Document-Released-Photos
(I hope I copies and pasted correctly)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: JOLfan on March 28, 2012, 12:52:43 PM
This should be an interesting read!  I haven't looked yet but I wanted everyone to have a chance to check them out!

http://globalgrind.com/news/Trayvon-Martin-Police-Document-Released-Photos
(I hope I copies and pasted correctly)

Here are police reports...
http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 28, 2012, 03:54:27 PM








NANCY GRACE

New Developments in Trayvon Martin Case

Aired March 27, 2012 - 20:00   ET


GRACE: Well, his friend is saying no, but what`s your second question? I`ll ask him very quickly.

APRIL: Did Zimmerman have mace on him? And why would -- thank you.  ::MonkeyKiss::




http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/27/ng.01.html


Hi Monkey's,

Good question from the caller.

Did Georgie have mace or pepper spray? 

Why a gun?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 28, 2012, 04:04:15 PM
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63328&page=39


Hat Tip to Athena!  ::monkeywine2::

Originally Posted by Athena 

If you all have not looked at this site - you may want to. This is the person who made the map and I did link to this in the links thread with the map but he took photos of the actual area. Interesting how he describes the path that GZ had to take to where TM's body was found.


http://marinadedave.com/



Thanks also to Marinade Dave ::justice2NJ::





I have been waiting of a map to get this straight in my head.  Thanks for bringing the link over!  If this map is correct...how can Zimmerman say that Trayvon attacked him as he was getting into his truck?  This would show that, if true, Trayvon attacked him then Zimmerman got up all bloody and hurt and chased him to where the shooting was.  This case is so frustrating!

JOLcan, You are welcome. 

I believe MD is an investigator.  www.marinadedave.com

I was reading MD's comments on his blog, yesterday, very down to earth. IMO

The case is frustrating. The kid should not be dead, I think it is that simple. IMO.

Your Beatles avatar makes me smile :) I remember you mentioned that you have it
on your living room wall. What fond memories the Beatles bring back.

T.Y. for sharing the Fab Four, with the Monkey's. ::monkeywine2::

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 28, 2012, 05:23:49 PM

This article claims Georgie was "doughy" (six months) before the shooting.
His pal, Joe Oliver claims GZ weighed 170 pounds, not 250.  I would like to know how much did GZ really weigh, at the time of incident.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/27/ng.01.html

OLIVER: ... he was characterized as being 70, 80 pounds heavier than Trayvon. Not only was George shorter than Trayvon, he weighs about 170 pounds.

GRACE: OK. Because we were told he weighed about 250 pounds.

OLIVER: And that information came from his arrest in 2005, which was publicized when people were looking into his background. They just said he was arrested. You can get his dimensions on that. They didn`t say what he was arrested for, which was...


http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-friend-20120328,0,2012044.story

 ::MonkeyEek::

How Trayvon Martin gunman aided neighbor after a break-in
March 28, 2012, 12:11 p.m.


Roughly six months before Zimmerman shot and killed an unarmed black teenager in his gated Florida townhouse complex, he was standing in Bertalan’s doorway, asking what he could do to help her. A group of young men had just broken into Bartalan’s townhouse as she and her infant cowered in a locked bedroom. The intruders had stolen a $600 camera and a laptop.

After the police had come and gone, the doorbell rang, and there was Zimmerman: 5-foot-9, in a shirt and tie, his body a little doughy, his demeanor gentle. He introduced himself. He gave her a list of phone numbers where she could reach him at any time. He gave her a heavy-duty lock to bolster the sliding-glass door that the suspects had forced open. He told her she could go stay with his wife down the street if she ever felt scared again.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: klaasend on March 28, 2012, 05:28:13 PM
Marinade Dave is nothing more than a blogger.  To consider him an investigator would be to say we all are investigators or that Murt is an investigator. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 28, 2012, 05:36:46 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Could he be an investigative reporter? 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: klaasend on March 28, 2012, 05:38:44 PM
IMO this case took on a life of it's own WAY too soon WAY before all the facts were out about the case.  TOO MANY are jumping the gun, on one side or the other without all the facts. 

I'm not going to be horrified that a white guy killed a black 17yr old until I find out all the facts in the case and what exactly happened.  As of now the case is clear as mud and it is very possible it was Zimmerman being attacked.  That said, Trayvon shouldn't have died for it no matter.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: klaasend on March 28, 2012, 05:40:10 PM
::MonkeyHaHa::

Could he be an investigative reporter? 

Is that what you call YOURSELF?  He is a blogger just like "RED" that happens to live in the Orlando area where many of these cases have gone down.  So he's gone to some court hearings and made every attempt to get himself in the news. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 28, 2012, 05:51:11 PM
http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN

J.O. wife and GZ's MIL, are in business together, supposedly,  (if interested) scroll, almost, halfway down, comment secton, a poster mentions a wee bit more.

Click View 2,163 comments



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 28, 2012, 06:12:46 PM
IMO this case took on a life of it's own WAY too soon WAY before all the facts were out about the case.  TOO MANY are jumping the gun, on one side or the other without all the facts. 

I'm not going to be horrified that a white guy killed a black 17yr old until I find out all the facts in the case and what exactly happened.  As of now the case is clear as mud and it is very possible it was Zimmerman being attacked.  That said, Trayvon shouldn't have died for it no matter.

Couldn't have said it better. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2012, 06:16:36 PM
IMO this case took on a life of it's own WAY too soon WAY before all the facts were out about the case.  TOO MANY are jumping the gun, on one side or the other without all the facts. 

I'm not going to be horrified that a white guy killed a black 17yr old until I find out all the facts in the case and what exactly happened.  As of now the case is clear as mud and it is very possible it was Zimmerman being attacked.  That said, Trayvon shouldn't have died for it no matter.

Klaas ... I agree.

I do feel that the incident would not have happened if Zimmerman ... in his capacity as neighbourhood watchman ... had only called 911 and had not followed Martin.  In other words ... wait for LE to arrive and do their thing.  I can appreciate why Martin felt threatened.  This huge guy was following him and he reponded accordingly with the most force he could muster.  Then it was Zimmerman's turn to defend himself.  In other words ... an unfortunate chain of events.

I do not think for one minute that Zimmerman set out to kill Martin when he began following him.

A race crime?  I don't think so.  The 911 operator asked Zimmerman what was the race of the person he had been following.  Zimmerman responded that he thought he was black.

Why the demonstrations?  I cannot understand why the Black community does not let the investigative process take its course.  I cannot understand why President Obama felt the need to address this isolated incident.

Janet

++++++

Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head
March 26, 2012


<snipped>

Several witnesses heard those cries, and there has been a dispute about whether they came from Zimmerman or Trayvon.

Lawyers for Trayvon's family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.

One witness, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him — and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.

Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest at very close range, according to authorities.

When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head.

Paramedics gave him first aid but he said he did not need to go to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-account-20120326_1_miami-schools-punch-unarmed-black-teenager







Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 28, 2012, 06:32:04 PM
As far as 140 lb Martin knocking over 240 lb Zimmerman.  It could happen if Zimmerman was unprepared.  Last year my 180 lb son when sprawling onto the airport floor when my 75 lb 10 year old grandaughter ran to give her uncle a hug when he and wife returned from a trip to Holland.  I am thankful it was not my 105 lb DIL that granddaughter had made a beeline for.  LOL



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 28, 2012, 07:52:50 PM
http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/11574960-418/supporters-of-george-zimmerman-fearful-of-speaking-out.html

Supporters of George Zimmerman fearful of speaking out
By HOLBROOK MOHR and MARINA HUTCHINSON Associated Press March 28, 2012 8:34AM

Trayvon Martin’s supporters pack churches, swarm rallies and wear hooded sweat shirts in solidarity while friends and family of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed teen to death, remain largely out of sight. The few who have defended Zimmerman have done so reluctantly, most fearing public backlash.
 
Zimmerman, 28, has gone into hiding. His version of what happened on the rainy night of Feb. 26 has only trickled out from police and his attorney. Zimmerman said he was pursuing the 17-year-old Martin because Martin was acting suspiciously. He said he lost sight of the teenager and Martin attacked him as he headed back to his sport utility vehicle.
 
Zimmerman told police he fired in self-defense and police did not arrest him, touching off widespread public outrage and protests across the country.
 
Martin’s supporters believe race played a role in the shooting. Martin was black; Zimmerman’s father is white and his mother is Hispanic.
 
“The family has had death threats, the father and mother, George has had death threats. Anything related to George is a target,” said Miguel Meza, who identified himself as Zimmerman’s cousin.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 28, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
Nancy grace is verrrrryyyy one sided on this....she has Zimmerman guilty with out hearing all the facts. She is not wanting to hear anything that anyone has to say if they are sticking up for Zimmerman...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 28, 2012, 09:01:44 PM
I wish that the photos showing injuries of Zimmerman would be released. If there are any...also, on NG's show it was mentioned that there is a voice specialist analyzing who was yelling 'help' that night. That should be interesting.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 28, 2012, 10:24:26 PM
Marinade Dave is nothing more than a blogger.  To consider him an investigator would be to say we all are investigators or that Murt is an investigator. ::MonkeyCool::

Exactly.  Marinade Dave has been around a while. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 28, 2012, 11:20:57 PM
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/crime/zimmerman-dad-worked-as-magistrate


The Plot thickens.  ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/crime/zimmerman-dad-worked-as-magistrate


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 29, 2012, 12:29:44 AM
Surveillance Video at link

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/28/2719868/network-broadcasts-surveillance.html

Posted on Wednesday, 03.28.12
Surveillance video shows George Zimmerman on the night he killed Trayvon Martin

ABC News has obtained exclusive police surveillance video of George Zimmerman taken the night he shot and killed Miami-Dade teen Trayvon Martin.

The video shows a handcuffed Zimmerman being taken out of a parked police cruiser and inside the Sanford, Fl. police headquarters on the night of Feb. 26 or early the following day.
 ::snipping2::

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/28/2719868/network-broadcasts-surveillance.html#storylink=cpy


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cw618 on March 29, 2012, 07:47:29 AM
ive been following on and off,i read more and i think the bad guy is the fla. law
stand your ground,the fact that george,followed Trayvon,and Trayvon saw the
gun, that put Trayvon in the position of the SYG law,even if Trayvon wasnt aware
of that law,im having a hard time with a law like that,and allows the party with the
weapon, to use it,even if the other party doesnt have a weapon,this isnt the wild
wild west for crying out loud,we as a civilized society,are letting the gangs,druggies
RSO,ect. instill fear in us to the point where we can now enact laws,that allow us
the "civilized" to murder each other,when what we should be doing is longer jail
terms,and more $$ spent on how to rehabilitate,instead of taking the confiscated
illegal gained $$,and giving it to the LE,lets put it to education and rehabilitation

or i could be totally wrong and its ok to shoot someone because..........
 
info stand your ground
http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2012/03/28/10-states-copied-floridas-stand-your-ground-law/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 29, 2012, 08:26:27 AM
ive been following on and off,i read more and i think the bad guy is the fla. law
stand your ground,the fact that george,followed Trayvon,and Trayvon saw the
gun, that put Trayvon in the position of the SYG law,even if Trayvon wasnt aware
of that law,im having a hard time with a law like that,and allows the party with the
weapon, to use it,even if the other party doesnt have a weapon,this isnt the wild
wild west for crying out loud,we as a civilized society,are letting the gangs,druggies
RSO,ect. instill fear in us to the point where we can now enact laws,that allow us
the "civilized" to murder each other,when what we should be doing is longer jail
terms,and more $$ spent on how to rehabilitate,instead of taking the confiscated
illegal gained $$,and giving it to the LE,lets put it to education and rehabilitation

or i could be totally wrong and its ok to shoot someone because..........
 
info stand your ground
http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2012/03/28/10-states-copied-floridas-stand-your-ground-law/

I agree. Laws need to change.  Harsher punishments need to be made.  Ghetto areas need to be cleared up.  Entitlement issues need to disappear.  Accountability and Consequences are vital.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on March 29, 2012, 10:11:18 AM
Jumping in here:

Thanks for bringing in many of the articles, everyone.

I want to express my sorrow to both families. To the Martin's for the premature demise of their son.  To the Zimmeran's for having the media try and convict their son without benefit of a full disclosure, investigation and court trial.

I'm like most of you, baffled by the inconsistencies and lack of truthfulness displayed by MSM, by the celebrities and political leaders who have spread misinformation and played race cards, and by what appears to be a wrongful character portrayal of both Martin and Zimmerman.

I don't understand why MSM and certain persons have stirred the pot to escalate this into a racial hate issue and inciting vigilante street justice into action.

I have many unanswered questions - perhaps I missed the answers along the way.

~What time of night on Sunday was it? 
~How long had Treyvon been gone before he was shot?
~Why did Treyvon's family not report him missing when he didn't return home from running to the convenience store to purchase candy for his brother? IOW, why did TM's body lie in the morgue, unclaimed for 3 days?
~Why did Treyvon's girlfriend allegedly wait so long to speak up about being on the phone with TM during his last moments of life?
~Why aren't the civil liberty leaders concerned about Zimmerman's liberties being corrupted by the MSM?  (he's been tried and convicted in the eyes of the world without the benefit of investigation, arrest, or trial, imo)


One other comment - the police video showing a non bloody GZ - he was treated by paramedics, who clean up blood in order to make sure there will be no more bleeding and to check for more serious injuries


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 29, 2012, 01:27:20 PM
Jamcakes, good post and questions.  I think that we'll have to wait for more news to come out to answer your questions.

According to the post that JOLfan posted of the police report, it happened around 7:17 pm.

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 29, 2012, 01:34:40 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/trayvon-martin-case-georg_n_1387711.html

Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman's Race Is A Complicated Matter
By SUZANNE GAMBOA 03/29/12 07:16 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- At first, the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager at the hands of a white neighborhood watch volunteer was playing out like many previous tragedies that cut short the lives of young black men.

Soon however, it became obvious that sorting out racial dynamics in the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin would not be simple. Police described the shooter, George Zimmerman, as white. His father called him a "Spanish speaking minority" with many black relatives and friends.
 ::snipping2::
Hispanic people can be black, white, Asian or mixed. Some 18 million Latinos checked the "some other race" category on their 2010 Census forms – which admonished in bold letters that Hispanic is not a race. So many Hispanics identified themselves as white, the overall number of white people in the United States increased.
 ::snipping2::
On voter registration forms, George Zimmerman identified himself as Hispanic, as did his mother. His father, Robert, listed himself as white on voter registration forms. Zimmerman's mother, Gladys, is originally from Peru.
 ::snipping2::
Some Hispanics, mostly in the Southwest, will say they are Spanish to make clear they identify with Spanish explorers who came to the Americas in the 1500s. In Texas, Latino has only recently become an identifying term; Tejano, Chicano or Mexican American have been more common. Cubans, who make up a large share of Hispanics in Florida, are more likely to identify as white than Puerto Ricans, whose presence is growing in Florida.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 29, 2012, 01:42:10 PM
Video at link

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-father-claims-trayvon-martin-attacked-son-article-1.1052611?localLinksEnabled=false

George Zimmerman’s father claims Trayvon Martin attacked his son  
Robert Zimmerman told a local TV station that his son was punched in the face, attacked
By Nina Mandell / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Thursday, March 29, 2012, 8:38 AM

George Zimmerman’s dad insists his son is no racist and he “did what he did” to Trayvon Martin because the teen attacked him.
 
Robert Zimmerman recounted the events of Feb. 26 as they were told to him by his 28-year-old son, claiming that the 17-year-old victim was responsible for the deadly confrontation.
 
"It's my understanding that Trayvon Martin got on top of him and just started beating him," the 64-year-old told FOX 35 News.
 
Robert Zimmerman claims his son told him that the night Martin was killed, George was suspicious of the teen because he wasn't walking on the sidewalk and he didn't recognize him.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-father-claims-trayvon-martin-attacked-son-article-1.1052611#ixzz1qWoburPn


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Babybear on March 29, 2012, 02:45:24 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys--Just passing by but wanted to give you this URL for a video which shows Zimmerman after the incident.  It appears to me that there is no blood on the back of his head as there would be if he had his head smashed repeatedly on the sidewalk, no blood on the front of his shirt which he would have were he punched in the nose.  In fact, no visible signs that he was assaulted at all IMO.  Make your own judgement about it, though.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/28/trayvon-martin-police-video_n_1386764.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D147524


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 29, 2012, 02:59:42 PM
Jumping in here:

Thanks for bringing in many of the articles, everyone.

I want to express my sorrow to both families. To the Martin's for the premature demise of their son.  To the Zimmeran's for having the media try and convict their son without benefit of a full disclosure, investigation and court trial.

I'm like most of you, baffled by the inconsistencies and lack of truthfulness displayed by MSM, by the celebrities and political leaders who have spread misinformation and played race cards, and by what appears to be a wrongful character portrayal of both Martin and Zimmerman.

I don't understand why MSM and certain persons have stirred the pot to escalate this into a racial hate issue and inciting vigilante street justice into action.

I have many unanswered questions - perhaps I missed the answers along the way.

~What time of night on Sunday was it? 
~How long had Treyvon been gone before he was shot?
~Why did Treyvon's family not report him missing when he didn't return home from running to the convenience store to purchase candy for his brother? IOW, why did TM's body lie in the morgue, unclaimed for 3 days?
~Why did Treyvon's girlfriend allegedly wait so long to speak up about being on the phone with TM during his last moments of life?
~Why aren't the civil liberty leaders concerned about Zimmerman's liberties being corrupted by the MSM?  (he's been tried and convicted in the eyes of the world without the benefit of investigation, arrest, or trial, imo)


One other comment - the police video showing a non bloody GZ - he was treated by paramedics, who clean up blood in order to make sure there will be no more bleeding and to check for more serious injuries

Great questions.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 29, 2012, 03:00:01 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys--Just passing by but wanted to give you this URL for a video which shows Zimmerman after the incident.  It appears to me that there is no blood on the back of his head as there would be if he had his head smashed repeatedly on the sidewalk, no blood on the front of his shirt which he would have were he punched in the nose.  In fact, no visible signs that he was assaulted at all IMO.  Make your own judgement about it, though.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/28/trayvon-martin-police-video_n_1386764.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D147524

Thanks Babybear.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on March 29, 2012, 03:18:57 PM
Just saw this and posting it FWIW. 

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/03/jose-baez-predicts-no-conviction-in-trayvon-martin-case.html/comment-page-1
Jose Baez predicts no conviction in Trayvon Martin case
March 29, 2012



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Babybear on March 29, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
Jumping in here:

Thanks for bringing in many of the articles, everyone.

I want to express my sorrow to both families. To the Martin's for the premature demise of their son.  To the Zimmeran's for having the media try and convict their son without benefit of a full disclosure, investigation and court trial.

I'm like most of you, baffled by the inconsistencies and lack of truthfulness displayed by MSM, by the celebrities and political leaders who have spread misinformation and played race cards, and by what appears to be a wrongful character portrayal of both Martin and Zimmerman.

I don't understand why MSM and certain persons have stirred the pot to escalate this into a racial hate issue and inciting vigilante street justice into action.

I have many unanswered questions - perhaps I missed the answers along the way.

~What time of night on Sunday was it? 
~How long had Treyvon been gone before he was shot?
~Why did Treyvon's family not report him missing when he didn't return home from running to the convenience store to purchase candy for his brother? IOW, why did TM's body lie in the morgue, unclaimed for 3 days?
~Why did Treyvon's girlfriend allegedly wait so long to speak up about being on the phone with TM during his last moments of life?
~Why aren't the civil liberty leaders concerned about Zimmerman's liberties being corrupted by the MSM?  (he's been tried and convicted in the eyes of the world without the benefit of investigation, arrest, or trial, imo)


One other comment - the police video showing a non bloody GZ - he was treated by paramedics, who clean up blood in order to make sure there will be no more bleeding and to check for more serious injuries

Great questions.

No blood on his T-shirt from a bloody nose.  I don't think EMT would wash his clothing.  Also, if he had a cut which looked as if it needed stitches on the back of his head, I think there would be some kind of bandage.  Cuts in one's scalp bleed profusely.  I don't see any blood on the back of his jacket, although that's rather hard to tell.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Blonde on March 29, 2012, 03:52:53 PM
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/crime/zimmerman-dad-worked-as-magistrate


The Plot thickens.  ::MonkeyEek::

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/crime/zimmerman-dad-worked-as-magistrate


George Zimmerman’s father is Robert Zimmerman. Robert Zimmerman gave a statement to the ‘Orlando Sentinel’ defending his son’s role in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin.

We then contacted the Virginia Supreme Court to confirm Robert Zimmerman’s employment.

Kristi Wright with the Department of Legislative and Public Relations wrote us this email in response:

“Robert J. Zimmerman served as a full-time magistrate from 2000-2006. Please be advised that in Virginia magistrates are judicial officers, but they are not considered "judges" and do not possess trial jurisdiction. More detailed information on the role of the magistrate in Virginia is available on Virginia's Judicial System Website .”


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2012, 09:05:43 PM
Following the line going dead ... did the "girlfriend" immediately contact 911 and/or either of Trayvon's parents in regards to her concerns encompassing her boyfriend's saftey?

When did the girlfriend alleged version of a troubling conversation she had with Trayvon emerge or ... was it a fabrication to further a demonization of George Zimmerman.

Janet

++++


Trayvon Martin's Last Phone Call Triggers Demand for Arrest 'Right Now'
SANFORD, Fla., March 20, 2012


<snipped>

ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Crump about the last moments of the teenager's life. Martin had been talking to his girlfriend all the way to the store where he bought Skittles and a tea. The phone was in his pocket and the earphone in his ear, Crump said.

"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run, but he said he was not going to run."

Eventually, he would run, said the girl, thinking that he'd managed to escape. But suddenly the strange man was back, cornering Martin.

"Trayvon said, 'What are you following me for,' and the man said, 'What are you doing here.' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again, and he didn't answer the phone."

The line went dead. Besides screams heard on 911 calls that night as Martin and Zimmerman scuffled, those were the last words he said.

Trayvon's phone logs, also obtained exclusively by ABC News, show the conversation occurred five minutes before police first arrived on the scene. Crump said the girl's identity was being withheld because "her parents are gravely concerned about her health and her safety." Her parents asked that only an attorney be allowed to ask her questions.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-crucial-phone/story?id=15959017


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on March 29, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
Phone records don't lie.  It appears that Trayvon Martin was talking to his girlfriend just prior to the confrontation with George Zimmerman but ... what was that conversation about.  According to the following words of Zimmerman's father ... the girlfriend did not come forward for three weeks with her version ... her version that implies Trayvon was at risk by an unknown mail following him.  The timeframe prior to coming forward indicates she was not concerned in regards to her boyfriends well-being.

Janet

+++++


George Zimmerman's Father Speaks: "I Don't Believe That Happened" (VIDEO)
Posted 11 hours 23 min ago


Robert Zimmerman, 64, came to the aide of his son George Zimmerman in order to refute the stories floating around about his son. Zimmerman dismissed Trayvon Martin’s girlfriend and her claims that she spoke to Trayvon the moment before he died.

<snipped>

As for accounts from Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, who claimed she was on the phone with Martin right before the altercation, he said:

"I don't believe that happened. I don't believe she was on the phone with him, and I find it very strange with the publicity involved... that all of a sudden, after three weeks, someone would remember that they were on the phone."

Zimmerman said he had faith in the FBI and others investigating the case and that the truth will come out.

Robert Zimmerman, a former magistrate judge and Vietnam War veteran, said he has never had to deal with anything of this magnitude.

Phone records have shown that Trayvon was talking to his girlfriend up to the minute before his confrontation with Zimmerman,

<snipped>

http://globalgrind.com/news/george-zimmerman-father-speaks-trayvon-martin-case-video


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 29, 2012, 10:40:03 PM
Police video at link
Two-page article

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-video-20120328,0,6403058.story?page=1

Trayvon Martin: What does new George Zimmerman video mean?
By Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
4:18 p.m. CDT, March 29, 2012

A newly released six-minute video of George Zimmerman at Sanford police headquarters has reignited online debate about whether he was defending himself when he shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
 ::snipping2::
But legal experts warn the tape is only one part of the story.

"I've heard the term 'game changer,'" said Orlando attorney Bill Sheaffer, a legal analyst for WFTV-Channel 9. "I think that's overstating the importance of this video."
 ::snipping2::
What the video doesn't show, Sheaffer says, is what happened between the shooting and Zimmerman's arrival at the Sanford Police Department on the night of Feb. 26.

Without other evidence in the case and testimony from first responders, including the paramedics who treated Zimmerman, Sheaffer says the video is a piece of an incomplete puzzle.

"The problem that we're having is we're only getting snippets of what the evidence is in this case," Sheaffer said Thursday. "Obviously, the video doesn't tell the whole story."
 ::snipping2::
Local attorney and WESH-Channel 2 analyst Richard Hornsby downplayed the video's impact, and pointed out that one of the officers with Zimmerman in the video "kept looking at the back of his head."

Though difficult to see in the video, some form of injury was "at least obvious to that person," Hornsby said, adding that the video "is absolutely not a game-changer by any means."

Hornsby also pointed out that Florida law wouldn't require Zimmerman to suffer serious injuries before using deadly force. A reasonable belief he was preventing such injuries would be justification.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 02:14:41 AM
http://www.kypost.com/dpp/news/national/couple-reaches-settlement-with-spike-lee1333079555537

Couple reaches settlement with Spike Lee
Posted: 8:28 PM
Last Updated: 2 hours and 7 minutes ago

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- An elderly couple has reached a settlement with Spike Lee after the pair said they had to leave their Florida home after the director help spread a Twitter posting listing their address as that of the man who shot an unarmed teen.

The couple's attorney, Matt Morgan, announced the settlement Thursday. Morgan says Lee called them to apologize for retweeting their address. Specifics of the settlement weren't disclosed.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.kypost.com/dpp/news/national/couple-reaches-settlement-with-spike-lee1333079555537#ixzz1qZsMuV8I


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 02:24:13 AM
Two videos at link--expanded surveillance video at police station and excerpts of interview with Zimmerman's brother by CNN

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/george-zimmermans-brother-speaks-out-on-trayvon-martin-shooting/

March 30, 2012, 1:18 am
George Zimmerman’s Brother Speaks Out on Trayvon Martin Shooting
By MATT FLEGENHEIMER

In an interview Thursday night on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight,” George Zimmerman’s brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr., addressed the accusations against his brother of racial bias and unwarranted violence in the killing of Trayvon Martin, 17, last month, calling his brother “the neighbor that everybody would want to have.”

The interview, excerpts of which were posted online by CNN, came as officials released expanded surveillance video Thursday from the night of the shooting, offering a different angle on Mr. Zimmerman’s exit from a police car and the moments that followed, as well as additional shots of Mr. Zimmerman being led through the police station in Sanford, Fla.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 30, 2012, 08:13:54 AM

George Zimmerman was fired as an under-the-table security guard for “being too aggressive,” an ex-co-worker says.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com



 ::justice2NJ::
A hat tip to Kalypso

http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63441&page=11


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 30, 2012, 01:33:15 PM
Posted on March 30, 2012 by Valhall 

Trayvon Martin case: A lesson in when to keep your mouth shut

 ::snipping2::

Are you serious?  Is this from a Charles Bronson Death Wish movie?  Can we go ahead and throw in the next scene played by Clint Eastwood where mild-mannered community hawk George says, “make my day punk” or do we have him reply “look, I’m not wantin’ no trouble here”.  Give me a break.


Brother Robert chimes in and now completely flips George over.  Trayvon was beating George’s FACE against the concrete.  Of course both Daddy Zimmerman and Brother Robert are completely disregarding the part where all the witnesses place the scuffle in the grass, but that’s okay.  Robert now describes George as so brutally injured that George was a veritable vegetable.  It was a wonder he wasn’t sipping tapioca pudding through a straw.  Robert tops off George’s story by proxy by stating George had every right to find Trayvon suspicious because it was raining outside and apparently nobody in Florida but criminals go outside when it rains…which means George would, in fact, be out in the rain bein’s he has committed criminal acts in the past.

 ::snipping2::
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2012/03/30/trayvon-martin-case-a-lesson-in-when-to-keep-your-mouth-shut/#more-9785



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 30, 2012, 02:07:59 PM
IMO, this is what this whole situation is all about.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9173820/Parents-of-murdered-British-students-criticise-Barack-Obama.html
Parents of murdered British students criticise Barack Obama

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/30/afl-cio-exec-conservative-right-wing-policies-to-blame-for-trayvon-martins-death-video/
AFL-CIO Exec 'Conservative Right-Wing Policies to Blame for Trayvon Martin's Death'

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/dnc-committeewoman-promotes-hoodie-rally-voter-registration-on-scene/
DNC member promotes ‘Hoodie Rally,’ voter registration on scene


Politics.  It makes me want to throw-up.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 02:15:09 PM
From what I have read and heard, I do not believe that trayvon was the aggressor or that he said to Zimmerman upon seeing the gun, you are going to die tonight or what ever was supposedly said at that moment. Trayvon was probably scared that he was being followed in the first place and then when he was confronted with a person with a gun, he may have tried to fight back at that point. Zimmerman should have left things in the hands of the police and left this kid alone! Jmo....I think that Zimmerman's brother was unbelievable. Jmo again...maybe Trayvon did fight Zimmerman but he was probably trying to save his own life. I do believe that it was Trayvon yelling for help that night...wonder how things would have turned out if just 1 person who heard the commotion would have shouted out their window, 'Hey, what is going on out there?  Would it have stopped anything that happened?  Scary maybe, but .....hard to say what any of us would do in a situation like that.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: pharlap on March 30, 2012, 02:22:25 PM
Why didn't zimmerman announce who he was and that police were called, on there way???
You would think this would of stopped the killing...JMO

Plus zimmerman should of followed what was told to him, DON'T follow & stay in your vehicle.

JMO, this is zimmermans fault. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 02:24:27 PM
Yep..from what we are hearing.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 03:32:22 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/30/justice/florida-teen-shooting-timeline/

A timeline of events in the Trayvon Martin caseBy the CNN Wire Staff
March 30, 2012 -- Updated 1733

(CNN) -- Here's a look at the timeline of events in the shooting of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida, and the ensuing uproar.

Sunday, February 26

About 7 p.m.: George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain, calls 911 to report "a suspicious person" in the gated community called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. He is instructed not to get out of his SUV or approach the person. Zimmerman follows anyway, and moments later, neighbors report hearing gunfire.

About 7:10 p.m.: Phone records show Trayvon Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend around the time he spotted George Zimmerman. At a March 20 news conference, Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump says the girl hears someone ask Martin what he was doing and Martin asking why the person was following him. The girl gets the impression that there is an altercation in which the earpiece falls out of Martin's ear, and the connection goes dead, according to Crump.

About 7:25 p.m.: Martin is shot and killed while returning from a convenience store to his father's fiancée's home. The weather is rainy. Martin is unarmed and carrying a small amount of cash, some candy and an iced tea.

About 7:30 p.m.: Zimmerman tells police he shot Martin in self-defense. In a police report, Officer Timothy Smith writes that Zimmerman is bleeding from the nose and back of the head.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 03:55:37 PM
Video at link

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/30/justice/florida-teen-shooting/?hpt=hp_t1

Brother: Medical records will prove George Zimmerman's storyBy the CNN Wire Staff
March 30, 2012 -- Updated 0944

Sanford, Florida (CNN) -- George Zimmerman's brother said medical records will prove that his brother was attacked and his nose was broken by Trayvon Martin before he fatally shot the teen.

Robert Zimmerman Jr. spoke to CNN's Piers Morgan Thursday night saying he wanted to correct some of the "mythology" and untruths that have been spread about the controversial shooting.

"We're confident the medical records are going to explain all of George's medical history," Zimmerman Jr. said. "His nose looks swollen in that video. I'm his brother."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 04:12:32 PM
http://todayentertainment.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/30/10940735-roseanne-barr-tweets-george-zimmermans-parents-correct-address

Roseanne Barr tweets George Zimmerman's parents correct address
4 hours ago
By Courtney Garcia, TODAY.com contributor

Apparently Roseanne Barr didn't learn anything from the Twitter misadventures of Spike Lee.

Lee apologized on Wednesday evening and offered to compensate an elderly Florida couple who had to flee their home after he tweeted their address on March 23, claiming it was that of the parents of George Zimmerman, the man who killed teenager Trayvon Martin.

But according to the Smoking Gun, on Wednesday, Barr tweeted the correct address for Zimmerman's parents, then deleted the tweet, then threatened to tweet it again.

 “If Zimmerman isn't arrested I'll rt his address again. maybe go 2 his house myself," Barr tweeted.

Criticism came quickly from the comedian's more than 100,000 followers.

Tweeted rob b, “Apparently Roseanne Barr is even dumber than Spike Lee, tweeting the correct home address of George [Zimmerman’s] parents.”

In response, Barr wrote on Twitter Friday, “The 'witchburnings' will continue despite apology…Decent [people] move on, indecent ones like to keep slinging mud [because] they r morally damaged.”

According to the Smoking Gun, the information Barr circulated was correct, however she later admitted, “I don't know if the address is accurate or not.”
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 04:29:26 PM
Video at link

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/03/30/trayvon-martin-family-attorney-george-zimmerman-vigilante

Trayvon Martin family attorney: George Zimmerman is a vigilante
Published March 29, 2012 | Hannity | Sean Hannity
 
Special Guests: Daryl Parks, attorney
This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," March 29, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/03/30/trayvon-martin-family-attorney-george-zimmerman-vigilante#ixzz1qdKxYo98


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 05:14:51 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-30/trayvon-martin-zimmerman-crime-debate/53898674/1

Lawyers: Court of public opinion no place for Trayvon case
By Yamiche Alcindor and Natalie DiBlasio, USA TODAYUpdated 12m ago

On one side there is a visceral reaction to the man who pulled the trigger in the Trayvon Martin killing: Thousands of people have used social media to label George Zimmerman guilty of racial profiling and murder. A "KillZimmerman" Twitter account began publishing calls for violence against him.

On the other side, particularly in the past few days, there are impassioned pleas by Zimmerman's brother, father, lawyer and friends begging the public to consider the counter-argument: The 28-year-old neighborhood watch captain struggled for his life against an aggressive attacker. He fired the gun, they say, in a kill-or-be-killed moment.
 ::snipping2::
Trayvon's family and Zimmerman's family tell different stories, but it's important that both sides and the public be prepared to accept the decision of the grand jury and the state and federal officials handling the case, Reep said. The Seminole County grand jury considering the case will convene April 10.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 05:49:04 PM
The Justice for Trayvon Martin Foundation sounds just like George & Cindy's "Foundation".

You give the family $500 and they will give you recognition on the Thank You page, You also get a Special T- Shirt &  Poster.

Supposedly, this is not a scam and it is verified by their lawyer.

So far they have received $ 19,028.44 in donations.

https://www.wepay.com/donations/3819

http://parkscrump.com/justicetm/donations/

oh, and their lawyer is known for civil rights cases.





Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 06:00:14 PM
I'm still saying "I'm not so sure" even if they say the money is in fact going toward the fund.

That part is in the left hand corner.  Maybe it's me......... IDK.





Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 06:02:05 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-201203301004usnewsusnwr201203280328debate.ground.pmar30,0,7011076.story

Sometimes There's No Choice but to 'Stand Your Ground'
U.S. News & World Report
 March 30, 2012

The shooting in Sanford, Fla., confirms the value of "stand your ground" laws. As information trickles out, we learn that the shooter, George Zimmerman, had lost track of Trayvon Martin during the course of his service with the gated community's neighborhood watch.
 ::snipping2::
When on his way back to his truck, there are reports that Martin came from behind and slugged Zimmerman, dropping him to the ground. Then Martin, who was 6-foot-3, jumped on top of Zimmerman and began slamming his head into the sidewalk and pummeling his face, breaking his nose and fattening his lip. This was witnessed by a resident who lives in front of where the attack occurred.

With this set of facts, we are not even dealing with Florida's SYG law. That law says that if you are in fear of your life or great bodily harm you don't have to retreat. Zimmerman had no way to retreat. The grass stains on the back of his shirt would seem to corroborate that he was simply acting in defense of his life.

If anyone has wondered why the police did not arrest Zimmerman, it's because they were looking at his broken nose and bloody head wound--plus the eyewitness reports that he was the one being pummeled--as objective evidence that Martin was the aggressor.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on March 30, 2012, 06:08:25 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-30/news/os-george-zimmerman-trayvon-al-sharpton-20120330_1_civil-disobedience-national-action-network-national-association

Al Sharpton: Civil disobedience will escalate if Zimmerman remains free
2:22 p.m. EST, March 30, 2012|
By Arelis R. Hernández, Orlando Sentinel

If George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin soon, theRev. Al Sharpton will call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions.

Sharpton would not say the efforts would be taken against the city of Sanford specifically, but he has been critical of the police department's handling of the case.

Saturday's scheduled 11 a.m. march from Crooms Academy of Information Technology to the Sanford Police Department headquarters was organized by National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Coordinators said people will be bused in from other states to participate.

The civil rights activist and syndicated television show host said he will elaborate on this plan Saturday.

"I will speak about how the National Action Network will move to the next level if Zimmerman isn't arrested," Sharpton said, who founded the organization. He added that it was the Martin family and lawyers who first asked him to get involved and nationalize this story.

TheRev. Jesse Jacksonis also expected to participate in the event.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 06:12:49 PM
Anyone remember the Duke Lacrosse case? I bet this one will end up the same way.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 06:23:11 PM
Anyone remember the Duke Lacrosse case? I bet this one will end up the same way.



Could be right.

Also, parents who try to benefit from the demise of their child make me ill...I have stated before, there is something about the mother that puts me off...can't say for sure what it is..jmo


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 06:24:41 PM
Al Sharpton's comments amount to blackmail if u ask me...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 06:28:12 PM
Al Sharpton's comments amount to blackmail if u ask me...


Will give others the message that it is ok to riot and loot innocent people's property and businesses!   Al and Jessie need to call for calm instead of inciting reprecussions if his demands are not met.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 06:37:45 PM
IMO, The family knows this was in self defense.  Unless Everyone in this case is in on a big conspiracy, then it was just that: self defense. JMO.









Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on March 30, 2012, 07:48:08 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-30/news/os-george-zimmerman-trayvon-al-sharpton-20120330_1_civil-disobedience-national-action-network-national-association

Al Sharpton: Civil disobedience will escalate if Zimmerman remains free
2:22 p.m. EST, March 30, 2012|
By Arelis R. Hernández, Orlando Sentinel

If George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin soon, theRev. Al Sharpton will call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions.

Sharpton would not say the efforts would be taken against the city of Sanford specifically, but he has been critical of the police department's handling of the case.

Saturday's scheduled 11 a.m. march from Crooms Academy of Information Technology to the Sanford Police Department headquarters was organized by National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Coordinators said people will be bused in from other states to participate.

The civil rights activist and syndicated television show host said he will elaborate on this plan Saturday.

"I will speak about how the National Action Network will move to the next level if Zimmerman isn't arrested," Sharpton said, who founded the organization. He added that it was the Martin family and lawyers who first asked him to get involved and nationalize this story.

TheRev. Jesse Jacksonis also expected to participate in the event.
 ::snipping2::


Why am I not surprised at this?

Trouble is that their hatred is blinding them into not seeing they are trampling on the civil rights of Zimmerman.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cw618 on March 30, 2012, 08:18:21 PM
i just so hope that the killing of Trayvon,will get that stand your ground law
repealed, or at least some amendments to it,like it should be a given the case
be reviewed by a GJ,and what circumstances it could should be used
id like to see the law thrown out,the average citizen is not mentally or emotionally,
able to deal with such an ideal,i just cant even imagine what, whoever proposed
that bill/law were thinking


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 30, 2012, 08:49:38 PM
MARCH 29--The comedian Roseanne Barr last night tweeted the home address of George Zimmerman’s parents to her 110,000-plus Twitter followers, only to delete the posting after “not fully understanding that it was private not public.”

 ::snipping2::

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/roseanne-barr-zimmerman-tweets-893416


ME:  RB is a Jerk.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 08:57:37 PM
I think that all of the facts need to be out so that we all can know what really happened. Trayvons parents and zimmermans family and us. At this point, it appears that Zimmerman was the aggressor and followed trayvon when the kid was doing nothing but walking home from the store...but I am waiting with a pretty open mind...would it have been so much different if trayvon was the shooter and Zimmerman was the dead person? I think that trayvon would be in jail right about now. Are we ever going to know what really happened? Sad scenario cause trayvon is dead and Zimmerman is going to be forever looking over his shoulder.....


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
Is it really SO far fetched to believe that a 17 year old young man can not do what they say he didn't do?

IMO, If What Zimmerman is saying is true, then it very well could have happened the way he says it did.

IMO, I think maybe TM's family is playing the race card just like JJ & Al Sharpton is doing.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 09:01:29 PM
Jamcakes,,,,to be blunt, al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are not interested in any person's civil rights unless they are black...have you ever seen them show up for any other race?  I wish that they were for everyone's civil rights but they are not...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 09:04:10 PM
Is it really SO far fetched to believe that a 17 year old young man can not do what they say he didn't do?

IMO, If What Zimmerman is saying is true, then it very well could have happened the way he says it did.

IMO, I think maybe TM's family is playing the race card just like JJ & Al Sharpton is doing.



Agree...his parents have done that from the get go in my opinion,which is sad..every case of murder does not always imply racism because the victim and the perp are a different race.  Jmo


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 09:04:20 PM
Did TM's family know that Al Sharpton was going to play the race card or have they never heard of him before?

Because, If they know what Sharpton is like and yet they got in contact with him anyways, them I'm going to scream.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 09:05:28 PM
Roseanne Barr is an arse if you ask me


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on March 30, 2012, 09:08:27 PM
http://**/sltrib/world/53826625-68/zimmerman-martin-case-defense.html.csp
Old photos may be deceptive in Fla. shooting case
By MATT SEDENSK
| The Associated Press
First Published 1 hour ago • Updated 1 hour ago
March 30, 2012

West Palm Beach, Fla. • When he was shot, Trayvon Martin was not the baby-faced boy in the photo that has been on front pages across the country. And George Zimmerman wasn’t the beefy-looking figure in the widely published mugshot.

Both photos are a few years old and no longer entirely accurate. Yet they may have helped shape initial public perceptions of the deadly shooting.
"When you have such a lopsided visual comparison, it just stands to reason that people would rush to judgment," said Kenny Irby, who teaches visual journalism at the Poynter Institute, a journalism think tank in St. Petersburg, Fla.

The most widely seen picture of Martin, released by his family, was evidently taken a few years ago and shows a smiling, round-cheeked youngster in a red T-shirt. But at his death, Martin was 17 years old, around 6 feet tall and, according to his family’s attorney, about 140 pounds.

Zimmerman, 28, is best known from a 7-year-old booking photo of an apparently heavyset figure with an imposing stare, pierced ear and facial hair, the orange collar of his jail uniform visible. The picture, released by police following the deadly shooting, was taken after Zimmerman’s 2005 arrest on an assault-on-an-officer charge that was eventually dropped.

In a police video made public this week of Zimmerman being brought in for questioning a half-hour after the shooting, the 5-foot-9 man appears much slimmer.

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Betsi Grabe, a professor at Indiana University-Bloomington who has studied the effect of news images on public opinion, said photos that gain the most traction play into the desires of both journalists and the public for a story with a distinct victim and aggressor.
 ::snipping2::
Grabe said it is natural to present the most innocent-looking image of the person believed to be the victim, and the most menacing one of the suspect.

A more complex portrait of the two figures has emerged since then. A photo of a beaming Zimmerman looking sharp in a jacket and tie has come out, along with a more recent picture of Martin, with gold teeth and a white sleeveless undershirt. At the same time, it was learned that Martin had been suspended from school for marijuana residue in his backpack.

"Everyone’s views seem to be gyrating back and forth with each new scrap of evidence that comes out," said David O. Markus, a prominent Miami defense attorney. "This is why we have courts and juries, and why the process is slow. No one should rush to judgment."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 30, 2012, 09:10:13 PM
I do agree Muffy...no one should rush to justice...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 09:11:12 PM
And if this is a case of self defense (like I think) IF it is not, then everybody involved, George, His family, friends, EMT's LE, everybody are in one big conspiracy.

And I doubt Nancy Grace will ever apologise (sp) to george zimmerman nor anybody else.

Didn't she do the same for the Duke Lacrosse players?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 09:27:47 PM
NBC has just been busted for editing 911 call.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/trayvon-martin-nbc-news-editing-911-call-306359


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 30, 2012, 09:29:50 PM
NBC has just been busted for editing 911 call.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/trayvon-martin-nbc-news-editing-911-call-306359
And they should be!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on March 30, 2012, 09:34:54 PM
Al Sharpton's comments amount to blackmail if u ask me...


Will give others the message that it is ok to riot and loot innocent people's property and businesses!   Al and Jessie need to call for calm instead of inciting reprecussions if his demands are not met.
And don't forget tweeting home addresses.  What's going to happen when someone decides to burn down a house and an innocent child or elderly person dies?  People should calm down and let the system work.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 30, 2012, 09:40:02 PM
Could GZ sue NBC if it turns out that he was acting in self defense?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on March 31, 2012, 10:40:59 AM
I am more appalled each day, as this story unfolds. 

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 31, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
Are allowed to post links to the Daily Caller? because TM's whole Twitter account is posted there and he does talk about women in a derogatory manner and his references to drugs.

His parents even denied this twitter account was not his and their lawyer did as well.

Unless they did not know he had a twitter account or if they did not look at his twitter account then they are trying to spin things.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on March 31, 2012, 11:47:54 AM
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc.com/46913662/#46913662

March for Trayron Martin. I believe this is live video.

Another thought, (not mine)

 ::MonkeyEek::


WS poster suggested, GZ may have hit his head on the lawn sprinkler.
The poster had a photo of where the sprinkler and the rustle on the ground.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 31, 2012, 12:11:07 PM
Ok, about the foundation...... the Martin Family lawyer and TM's mother says they are not going to be making any profit by trademarking "Justice for Trayvon" or "I Am Trayvon".

But yet the copyrighted trademark is for CD's and DVD's.

So is she going to start making CD's and DVD's with her son's image, biography on them etc. and start selling them herself?

She seeked trademark rights to namely  digital media including CD's and DVD's featuring her son and other products.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 31, 2012, 12:12:15 PM
This is starting to stink major big time.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 31, 2012, 12:42:12 PM
usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/27/10885680-trayvon-martins-family-alleges-racial-profiling-before-congress

Ben Crump, an attorney for Martin's parents, told the panel that the family was convinced  Martin was targeted for special attention because of his race, arguing that tougher laws against profiling might have averted the shooting.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on March 31, 2012, 01:43:41 PM
Jamcakes,,,,to be blunt, al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are not interested in any person's civil rights unless they are black...have you ever seen them show up for any other race?  I wish that they were for everyone's civil rights but they are not...

Thank you Cookie, for having the courage to write what I could not.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: klaasend on March 31, 2012, 01:44:50 PM
Are allowed to post links to the Daily Caller? because TM's whole Twitter account is posted there and he does talk about women in a derogatory manner and his references to drugs.

His parents even denied this twitter account was not his and their lawyer did as well.

Unless they did not know he had a twitter account or if they did not look at his twitter account then they are trying to spin things.



I have no problem with you posting a link to the Daily Caller.  Almost all links are welcome except links to porn or x-rated sites.  Daily Caller is fine.  Thanks!

About the Daily Caller:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 31, 2012, 01:56:43 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/second-trayvon-martin-twitter-feed-identified/

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/the-daily-caller-obtains-trayvon-martins-tweets/

I am in no way implying that he  deserved to die, just what his frame of mind might have been at the time of the shooting.

And the fact that his family is trying to spin things when they clearly said this twitter account was not his, even their lawyer denied that this was not his twitter account.






Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on March 31, 2012, 03:25:18 PM
http://www.wagist.com/

I think the pictures paint a clearer version of what REALLY went down that night.

also, I noticed the police video pictures are much clearer than what was shown in the media.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on March 31, 2012, 05:37:38 PM
I just listened to the 911 call. 

"These assholes always get away." (as quoted by George Zimmerman)  "There's something wrong with him."  (really? he can determine that in the dark and rainy night?)  "He's in his late teens."  (he murdered what he knew to be a teenager)

I'm hearing motive and prejudice. 

The kid was minding his business, getting candy for his brother, and was being followed by some man, first in a truck, then on foot.  The man following him, George Zimmerman, has been arrested for domestic assault, attacking a police officer, and lost a job for being too hostile. 

George Zimmerman instigated the entire scenario.  He alone is to blame for what happened that night.  I don't care about Trayvon's parents, I don't care about George's parents, I don't care that Trayvon smoked pot, or was suspended from school.  Children grow and change and many a young brat can turn into a very productive citizen.  We will never know if Trayvon had great things ahead of him because of some chase and trigger happy vigilante wannabe who thinks he knows what a person is up to just because they are walking around in the rain.

That said, this culture of looting stores, treating females like trash, robbing the homes of others, and looking upon the white race as the enemy is certainly a root cause of what ails us.  In light of that, George Zimmerman still needs to face a court of law for what he has done.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Babybear on March 31, 2012, 06:13:17 PM
From what I have read and heard, I do not believe that trayvon was the aggressor or that he said to Zimmerman upon seeing the gun, you are going to die tonight or what ever was supposedly said at that moment. Trayvon was probably scared that he was being followed in the first place and then when he was confronted with a person with a gun, he may have tried to fight back at that point. Zimmerman should have left things in the hands of the police and left this kid alone! Jmo....I think that Zimmerman's brother was unbelievable. Jmo again...maybe Trayvon did fight Zimmerman but he was probably trying to save his own life. I do believe that it was Trayvon yelling for help that night...wonder how things would have turned out if just 1 person who heard the commotion would have shouted out their window, 'Hey, what is going on out there?  Would it have stopped anything that happened?  Scary maybe, but .....hard to say what any of us would do in a situation like that.

\Hi Cookie--

According to a poster at Websleuths, MSNBC said that the Zimmerman's lawyer said that his brother had not spoken to George Zimmerman for two years and just wanted to be on TV.  I believe it was Trayvon yelling for help and I also believe Zimmerman intended to shoot him from the moment he got out of his truck.  If anyone was entitled to "Stand your ground," it was Trayvon.  Zimmerman instigated the entire encounter and was the agressor.  I don think you can be the agressor and then claim self-defense.
Also Zimmerman has no apparent injury one can see in the tape and looks neat, clothes unruffled, but most importantly, if Trayvon punched him in the nose, there would have been copious amounts of blood on Zimmerman's clothing.  There is none.  If one's nose is bleeding, the natural inclination is to lean forward to prevent the blood going down your throat.   Had the blood gone down his nasal passages to his throat, he would have choked.  That's grasping for straws.  EMTs could have stopped the bleeding by packing his nose, but they would not have laundered his shirt for him. That, too, is grasping for straws.
As to Trayvon's parents seeking the help of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, they were getting nowhere with the Sanford police, just a run around.  Who else could they have turned to?  I do not admire either of these men, but I do not blame Trayvon's parents for seeking their help.  Further, if they had not done so, there would have been no action taken, no grand jury, no special prosecutor, no Justice Department, no FBI.
Trayvon would have ended up just one of many young black males murdered under mysterious circumstances and his parents would just have to live with it.  Thank God, those days are over.
Of course Zimmerman and his family are going to say "self defense."  What else would they say?  Certainly not, "yeah, I murdered him, so what?"  In fact, that's just about what was said by George Zimmerman in the beginning and the police said, "OK, you are free to leave."
I also don't believe that Trayvon said, after having been shot, "You got me."  Sounds like a grade B Western.  But, of course, that came from his brother, who, if we can believe MSNBC, knows nothing about what happened because he hasn't talked to his brother. Anyhow, he likely was killed instantly and was unable to say anything.

Now, before anyone again wants to comment on my "Unhappy life" and my "Bitterness," may I say that I didn't think that kind of disrespectful post to another poster was allowed here and am disappointed that it was.  I am extremely happy right now because of circumstances in my life and not the least bit bitter.  Have nothing to be bitter about.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on March 31, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
What I pray for in this case is the TRUTH to come out.  I don't care about the race of either of the two (even though in my world if I could pull some white activist out when things weren't being heard in an investigation...that incited riots and crap...I would be an outcast).  I am so glad that we can post our opinions on Scared Monkeys...because I might be pretty upset right now...if we were forced to be one sided. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on March 31, 2012, 09:32:46 PM
Hi baby bear...
Good post.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 01, 2012, 01:32:06 AM
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/03/31/tough-prosecutor-in-trayvon-martin-case/

Tough Prosecutor in Trayvon Martin Case
Published March 31, 2012
Fox News Latino
 
 ::snipping2::
Defense attorneys who have gone up against Corey in court say she is up for the job.
 
"She is a tough-minded prosecutor who is prepared, thorough and a very good advocate for the prosecution in the court," said Ann Finnell, a Jacksonville defense attorney who has faced off against Corey during a trial. Finnell also was on the legal team for Casey Anthony, the Orlando mother acquitted of killing her 2-year-old daughter.
 
As a courtroom prosecutor, Corey was an aggressive advocate. When she ran for the State Attorney's Office in 2008, she made prosecuting juvenile criminals a top priority and celebrated her close ties to law enforcement agencies — so much so that in its endorsement of Corey's opponent, The Florida Times-Union newspaper in Jacksonville wrote: "Is Corey's relationship with the sheriff and the unions too close? Yes."
 
As the Jacksonville-based State Attorney for three northeast Florida counties, she has been known for filing more charges, bringing more cases to trial and being less likely to use a grand jury than her predecessor. Florida prosecutors are required to use grand juries only in first-degree murder degrees. But many prosecutors send high-profile or controversial cases to grand juries to avoid the political fallout of an unpopular decision.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/03/31/tough-prosecutor-in-trayvon-martin-case/#ixzz1qlOLL97F


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 01, 2012, 01:36:48 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-911-20120331,0,250481.story

Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Trayvon Martin's family says unarmed teen begged for his life. Experts say it's not George Zimmerman's voice.

By Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
4:38 p.m. CDT, March 31, 2012

As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?

A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.

His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.

Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 01, 2012, 07:52:37 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-911-20120331,0,250481.story

Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Trayvon Martin's family says unarmed teen begged for his life. Experts say it's not George Zimmerman's voice.


Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.
 ::snipping2::


I think the MSM has skewed this story enough.  It is now an international story of racial bias.

I think the media needs to stop playing investigator and leave that job to the LE.  We just found out that NBC manipulated the 911 tapes. Now this.

This is just so sad that MSM, civil liberty leaders, celebrities, gangs, and politicians are forgetting our Constitution and BOR that provides that we are "innocent until proven guilty" in a court of law!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sharon on April 01, 2012, 08:24:29 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/31/2725442/what-is-known-what-isnt-about.html

What is known, what isn’t about Trayvon Martin’s death
 
What happened the night of Trayvon Martin’s death has become a blend of truth and unattributed rumor accepted as fact. A look at events, minute by minute.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/31/2725442/what-is-known-what-isnt-about.html#storylink=cpy

By Frances Robles
frobles@MiamiHerald.com

SANFORD -- Sunday evening, Feb. 26: It was raining in Central Florida while the NBA All Stars game and the Oscars were about to begin on TV.

A 17-year-old high school junior from Miami Gardens serving a 10-day suspension went to 7-Eleven to get candy. It was the third time Trayvon Martin was disciplined at school, so this time his parents sent him up to a quiet, racially mixed gated community in Sanford with his dad to get his priorities straight. He was black and wore a hoodie.

George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer who routinely called police to report anything awry, had just made dinner and told his family he was headed to Target. He was Hispanic and wore a holstered Kel Tek 9mm semiautomatic handgun.

The brief encounter between the two at the Retreat at Twin Lakes community would leave one dead and the other in hiding, give rise to a social movement and, at least temporarily, cost the local police chief his job. In the next 30 days, the name “Trayvon” would be tweeted more than two million times.

In a fast-paced world of 24-hour cable news and nonstop social media, what happened that night has become both common knowledge and a blur of unattributed rumor accepted as fact. A controversial police report incited conspiracy theories and failed to definitively resolve what everyone wants to know: Who picked the fight? Armchair crime scene investigators around the nation insist on access to the evidence, and millions more demand an arrest in a case now being looked at by at least three different agencies, including the FBI.

The protagonists in the saga gripping the nation are Zimmerman, a man with a history of going after suspects in hot pursuit, and Trayvon, a chronically tardy teenager who liked aviation, was making plans for college and got suspended for having an empty baggie containing marijuana residue. Their story begins when Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and pursued Trayvon on foot.

But in the tale pieced together from 911 calls, witnesses, police, Zimmerman’s family and the girl who was on the phone with Trayvon in the last minutes of his life, a key one-minute gap remains a mystery that may never be solved: Who approached whom? Who threw the first blow?

And the key question a special prosecutor in Jacksonville is now tasked to investigate: Did Zimmerman justifiably take Trayvon’s life to save his own?

The encounter

Trayvon, a junior at Dr. Michael M. Krop High, was a lot like most teenagers: He spent an inordinate amount of time on the phone. On that Sunday, he talked for nearly five hours.

Earphones in his ears, Arizona iced tea in hand and a cellphone, Skittles and $22 in his pockets, he chatted the whole way back from the store. It started raining harder as he walked, so he pulled up his hood and sought shelter at one of the buildings in the townhouse complex, the girlfriend he was chatting with on the phone told attorneys.

At 7:11 p.m., Zimmerman, who was in his truck, spotted Trayvon. There had been a rash of burglaries in the neighborhood attributed to young black men, and Zimmerman was wary of someone he did not recognize walking along the path that goes through the back of the townhouses, his father later told a local TV station.

Zimmerman called police. Records show it was the fifth time in a year that he had alerted authorities to the presence of a black male he found suspicious. This one, he said, looked high and had something in one hand while he kept the other in his waist as he peered at houses.

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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 01, 2012, 08:55:55 AM
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/03/31/tough-prosecutor-in-trayvon-martin-case/

Tough Prosecutor in Trayvon Martin Case
Published March 31, 2012
Fox News Latino
 
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Defense attorneys who have gone up against Corey in court say she is up for the job.
 
"She is a tough-minded prosecutor who is prepared, thorough and a very good advocate for the prosecution in the court," said Ann Finnell, a Jacksonville defense attorney who has faced off against Corey during a trial. Finnell also was on the legal team for Casey Anthony, the Orlando mother acquitted of killing her 2-year-old daughter.
 
As a courtroom prosecutor, Corey was an aggressive advocate. When she ran for the State Attorney's Office in 2008, she made prosecuting juvenile criminals a top priority and celebrated her close ties to law enforcement agencies — so much so that in its endorsement of Corey's opponent, The Florida Times-Union newspaper in Jacksonville wrote: "Is Corey's relationship with the sheriff and the unions too close? Yes."
 
As the Jacksonville-based State Attorney for three northeast Florida counties, she has been known for filing more charges, bringing more cases to trial and being less likely to use a grand jury than her predecessor. Florida prosecutors are required to use grand juries only in first-degree murder degrees. But many prosecutors send high-profile or controversial cases to grand juries to avoid the political fallout of an unpopular decision.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/03/31/tough-prosecutor-in-trayvon-martin-case/#ixzz1qlOLL97F
Sounds like a good person for justice.  Now if the 'public' will just let her do her job.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 01, 2012, 11:02:11 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-911-20120331,0,250481.story

Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Trayvon Martin's family says unarmed teen begged for his life. Experts say it's not George Zimmerman's voice.


Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.
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I think the MSM has skewed this story enough.  It is now an international story of racial bias.

I think the media needs to stop playing investigator and leave that job to the LE.  We just found out that NBC manipulated the 911 tapes. Now this.

This is just so sad that MSM, civil liberty leaders, celebrities, gangs, and politicians are forgetting our Constitution and BOR that provides that we are "innocent until proven guilty" in a court of law!

Yes, I agree.  I have to stop reading this thread and watching the news on this.  I go back and forth with it.  I'm leaving it in the hands of those more capable.  I pray that the truth will be found.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sailcat on April 01, 2012, 11:12:02 AM
From what I have read and heard, I do not believe that trayvon was the aggressor or that he said to Zimmerman upon seeing the gun, you are going to die tonight or what ever was supposedly said at that moment. Trayvon was probably scared that he was being followed in the first place and then when he was confronted with a person with a gun, he may have tried to fight back at that point. Zimmerman should have left things in the hands of the police and left this kid alone! Jmo....I think that Zimmerman's brother was unbelievable. Jmo again...maybe Trayvon did fight Zimmerman but he was probably trying to save his own life. I do believe that it was Trayvon yelling for help that night...wonder how things would have turned out if just 1 person who heard the commotion would have shouted out their window, 'Hey, what is going on out there?  Would it have stopped anything that happened?  Scary maybe, but .....hard to say what any of us would do in a situation like that.

\Hi Cookie--

According to a poster at Websleuths, MSNBC said that the Zimmerman's lawyer said that his brother had not spoken to George Zimmerman for two years and just wanted to be on TV.  I believe it was Trayvon yelling for help and I also believe Zimmerman intended to shoot him from the moment he got out of his truck.  If anyone was entitled to "Stand your ground," it was Trayvon.  Zimmerman instigated the entire encounter and was the agressor.  I don think you can be the agressor and then claim self-defense.
Also Zimmerman has no apparent injury one can see in the tape and looks neat, clothes unruffled, but most importantly, if Trayvon punched him in the nose, there would have been copious amounts of blood on Zimmerman's clothing.  There is none.  If one's nose is bleeding, the natural inclination is to lean forward to prevent the blood going down your throat.   Had the blood gone down his nasal passages to his throat, he would have choked.  That's grasping for straws.  EMTs could have stopped the bleeding by packing his nose, but they would not have laundered his shirt for him. That, too, is grasping for straws.
As to Trayvon's parents seeking the help of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, they were getting nowhere with the Sanford police, just a run around.  Who else could they have turned to?  I do not admire either of these men, but I do not blame Trayvon's parents for seeking their help.  Further, if they had not done so, there would have been no action taken, no grand jury, no special prosecutor, no Justice Department, no FBI.
Trayvon would have ended up just one of many young black males murdered under mysterious circumstances and his parents would just have to live with it.  Thank God, those days are over.
Of course Zimmerman and his family are going to say "self defense."  What else would they say?  Certainly not, "yeah, I murdered him, so what?"  In fact, that's just about what was said by George Zimmerman in the beginning and the police said, "OK, you are free to leave."
I also don't believe that Trayvon said, after having been shot, "You got me."  Sounds like a grade B Western.  But, of course, that came from his brother, who, if we can believe MSNBC, knows nothing about what happened because he hasn't talked to his brother. Anyhow, he likely was killed instantly and was unable to say anything.

Now, before anyone again wants to comment on my "Unhappy life" and my "Bitterness," may I say that I didn't think that kind of disrespectful post to another poster was allowed here and am disappointed that it was.  I am extremely happy right now because of circumstances in my life and not the least bit bitter.  Have nothing to be bitter about.

Excellent, very thoughtful post, Babybear! I agree with you 100%.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: klaasend on April 01, 2012, 12:22:15 PM
I'm lost. Would someone please tell me where any member of this forum said that another member of the forum had an "unhappy life".  I would really like to see the post.  I tried searching but couldn't find it.

Thanks,


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 01, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
I'm wondering why the Martin Family needs money? They have raised almost $20,000 already for their foundation.

Their lawyer is also a wrongful death lawyer, So do they need this money in order to make a wrongful death case?



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 01, 2012, 01:59:06 PM
I'm wondering why the Martin Family needs money? They have raised almost $20,000 already for their foundation.

Their lawyer is also a wrongful death lawyer, So do they need this money in order to make a wrongful death case?



That's a fair question and one I almost always ask myself when a child is murdered or missing and the parents set up foundations in their name.

There are times when it is warranted as in the case of the 15 year old girl who was held in the basement of her home by abusive parents.  The parents are being held and she is in foster care... absolutely donations could help the girl rebuild her life but the Billie Dunn's and Casey Anthony's? 

It's sad we have to be cynical but it's the reality of the world we live in.  Frankly, I'd rather mow an elderly neighbors lawn, volunteer at the animal shelter, or pay the utilities of a down and out family member than donate cash to an organized foundation whose expenditures and cash flow are not made public.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 01, 2012, 02:20:22 PM
Ugghhhh, Nancy Grace........

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 01, 2012, 07:27:39 PM

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/022712-man-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation#ixzz1qpX1S895

" He was sitting on the porch and this man killed him."


their story does not make sense.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 02, 2012, 01:31:06 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/02/us/the-events-leading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin.html

Published: April 1, 2012
The Events Leading to the Shooting of Trayvon Martin

Tragedy in a Gated Community George Zimmerman, 28, a neighborhood watch coordinator, says that he shot Trayvon Martin, 17, in self-defense after a life-or-death struggle on the night of Feb. 26. Official accounts and interviews with those involved in the case offer a glimpse into what may have happened.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 02, 2012, 02:35:04 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/02/us/the-events-leading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin.html


I'm disgusted no arrest has been made yet.  George Zimmerman's story seems so phoney... he claims Trayvon said "You're going to die tonight" and "What's your problem, homie".  Do people even use the term 'homie' anymore?

Please.  From what we know this kid has no history of violence AND he was not the one with the gun.  My guess is George Zimmerman is the one who told Trayvon he was going to die tonight.  In fact, he was so frustrated with strangers in his neighborhood getting away he was not about to let that happen again on this night.

He cold blooded murdered a teenage boy.

IMO.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 02, 2012, 02:36:45 AM
Thank you, grace-land, for the link.

Trayvon's father looks about as heart broken as a man can look.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 02, 2012, 08:26:28 AM
If you read this, this explains the SYG law very well, and because of this, LE knew GZ was protected under this law. (it is lengthy).

http://www.baynews9.com/content/dam/news/static/cfnews13/documents/Elizabeth-megale-article-stand-your-ground-0401.pdf


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 02, 2012, 08:29:09 AM
http://gawkk.com/what-really-happened-to-trayvon-martin/discuss

GZ, 2005 arrest, could possibly be used in this case, if it goes to trial.

The video clip gives a little more insight, into the 2005 incident. IMO


 ::MonkeyEek::




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 02, 2012, 10:09:57 AM
Thank you, grace-land, for the link.

Trayvon's father looks about as heart broken as a man can look.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I keep thinking there are at least 100,000 heartbroken loved ones, who lost family members,
friends and neighbors, from war conflicts, past and present. :(

Why is this story so passionate among the US?  I think T.M. case hits a nerve, because everyones Freedom, could be at stake. If TM life could be discounted so easily, could mine, and everyone elses life, be of little valve, too? 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: can on April 02, 2012, 10:43:47 AM
http://gawkk.com/what-really-happened-to-trayvon-martin/discuss

GZ, 2005 arrest, could possibly be used in this case, if it goes to trial.

The video clip gives a little more insight, into the 2005 incident. IMO


 ::MonkeyEek::

not sure if prior acts could be used if it goes to trial.  Try finding a jury though!







Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 02, 2012, 02:03:09 PM
Thank you, grace-land, for the link.

Trayvon's father looks about as heart broken as a man can look.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I keep thinking there are at least 100,000 heartbroken loved ones, who lost family members,
friends and neighbors, from war conflicts, past and present. :(

Why is this story so passionate among the US?  I think T.M. case hits a nerve, because everyones Freedom, could be at stake. If TM life could be discounted so easily, could mine, and everyone elses life, be of little valve, too? 

So true.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 02, 2012, 02:04:24 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-case-video-shows-injury-george-zimmermans/story?id=16055412
George Zimmerman Video Shows Injury to Back of His Head
April 2, 2012

Enhanced video footage of George Zimmerman being taken into custody less than 30 minutes after he shot and killed Florida teenTrayvon Martin shows the neighborhood watch captain with an injury to the back of his head.

The never-before-seen evidence of an injury to Zimmerman, in this case a gash or mark to his head, would appear to back his claim that he was in an altercation with Martin on the night of Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla. Zimmerman says he shot the teen in self defense after he was attacked.
 ::snipping2::

Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 02, 2012, 02:06:58 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video
Trayvon Martin: Enhanced Zimmerman video shows possible head wound
April 2, 2012

A newly enhanced version of police video taken on the night of the Trayvon Martinshooting more clearly shows a possible gash or injury on the back of shooter George Zimmerman's head.

ABC News debuted the new video today. In it, an apparent wound of some type can be seen on Zimmerman's head when he turns away from the camera.

The video is an enhanced version of surveillance tape released by the Sanford Police Department last week. It shows Zimmerman being taken into SPD headquarters after the shooting.

Zimmerman was seen by paramedics after the shooting, officials have said, and was released without being arrested that night after he was interviewed by detectives.

In the original version of the video, no injuries were visibly apparent. The video was enhanced for ABC News by Forensic Protection, a California video and audio enhancement firm.

In the enhanced video, as in the original, no blood is visible on Zimmerman or his clothing.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 02, 2012, 02:07:55 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/02/us-usa-florida-shooting-idUSBRE8310UZ20120402
Florida shooter will turn himself in if charged: lawyer
April 2, 2012

Reuters) - George Zimmerman will turn himself in to authorities in the event he is charged with a crime in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, his defense attorney Craig Sonner said on Monday.

"If he's charged, he will be arrested and he will turn himself in. However it goes, he's not hiding from the authorities. If he is asked, he will turn himself in. There's not going to be a manhunt or anything like that," Sonner told Reuters in a telephone interview.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: kcrn on April 02, 2012, 02:14:01 PM
I'm lost. Would someone please tell me where any member of this forum said that another member of the forum had an "unhappy life".  I would really like to see the post.  I tried searching but couldn't find it.

Thanks,

hi klaas. I believe that babybear is referring to some back & forth that we had a couple of months ago. I thought it was over & done & agreed to no longer reply to any of her posts. I have not & will not. My apologies to you & other members for causing any discord on the forum. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: can on April 02, 2012, 02:27:01 PM
If someone was confrontational with me and showed a gun, I think I would instinctively fight for my life.
If that is what happened, Trayvon had every right to fight for his life.  jmo

Sadly, a young man lost everything.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: can on April 02, 2012, 02:28:59 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video
Trayvon Martin: Enhanced Zimmerman video shows possible head wound
April 2, 2012

A newly enhanced version of police video taken on the night of the Trayvon Martinshooting more clearly shows a possible gash or injury on the back of shooter George Zimmerman's head.

ABC News debuted the new video today. In it, an apparent wound of some type can be seen on Zimmerman's head when he turns away from the camera.

The video is an enhanced version of surveillance tape released by the Sanford Police Department last week. It shows Zimmerman being taken into SPD headquarters after the shooting.

Zimmerman was seen by paramedics after the shooting, officials have said, and was released without being arrested that night after he was interviewed by detectives.

In the original version of the video, no injuries were visibly apparent. The video was enhanced for ABC News by Forensic Protection, a California video and audio enhancement firm.

In the enhanced video, as in the original, no blood is visible on Zimmerman or his clothing.
 ::snipping2::



Wonder why there is no blood visible on the clothing? 



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: can on April 02, 2012, 02:30:48 PM
I think there has been a lot of trumped up rhetoric from both sides!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I pray no one else gets hurt.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 02, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
I think there has been a lot of trumped up rhetoric from both sides!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I pray no one else gets hurt.

ITA 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 02, 2012, 02:51:50 PM
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/nbc-to-investigate-itself-over-editing-911-call-of-george-zimmerman.html

NBC to investigate itself over editing 911 call of George Zimmerman

The Washington Post's Erik Wemple reported this weekend that NBC is investigating why the "Today" show edited the 911 call from Trayvon Martin's shooter, George Zimmerman, in such a way that it appeared more racially inflammatory than need be:
 
As exposed by Fox News and media watchdog site NewsBusters, the “Today” segment took this approach to a key part of the dispatcher call:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
 
Here’s how the actual conversation went down:
 
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
 
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
 
Zimmerman: He looks black.

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Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/nbc-to-investigate-itself-over-editing-911-call-of-george-zimmerman.html#storylink=cpy
----------------------------
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html

Posted at 04:40 PM ET, 03/31/2012
NBC to do ‘internal investigation’ on Zimmerman segment
By Erik Wemple

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The difference between what “Today” put on its air and the actual tape? Complete: In the “Today” version, Zimmerman volunteered that this person “looks black,” a sequence of events that would more readily paint Zimmerman as a racial profiler. In reality’s version, Zimmerman simply answered a question about the race of the person whom he was reporting to the police. Nothing prejudicial at all in responding to such an inquiry.

In an appearance on Fox News’s “Hannity,” Brent Bozell, president of the conservative Media Research Center, called this elision on the part of ”Today” an “all-out falsehood” — not just a distortion or misrepresentation.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 02, 2012, 03:13:39 PM
I think there has been a lot of trumped up rhetoric from both sides!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I pray no one else gets hurt.

ITA 

Me too!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 02, 2012, 03:21:06 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video
Trayvon Martin: Enhanced Zimmerman video shows possible head wound
April 2, 2012

A newly enhanced version of police video taken on the night of the Trayvon Martinshooting more clearly shows a possible gash or injury on the back of shooter George Zimmerman's head.

ABC News debuted the new video today. In it, an apparent wound of some type can be seen on Zimmerman's head when he turns away from the camera.

The video is an enhanced version of surveillance tape released by the Sanford Police Department last week. It shows Zimmerman being taken into SPD headquarters after the shooting.

Zimmerman was seen by paramedics after the shooting, officials have said, and was released without being arrested that night after he was interviewed by detectives.

In the original version of the video, no injuries were visibly apparent. The video was enhanced for ABC News by Forensic Protection, a California video and audio enhancement firm.

In the enhanced video, as in the original, no blood is visible on Zimmerman or his clothing.
 ::snipping2::



Wonder why there is no blood visible on the clothing? 



Red jacket buttoned up during the rain storm?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 02, 2012, 03:32:19 PM
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/02/george-zimmermans-lawyer-facts-have-been-spun-by-the-media/

George Zimmerman’s Lawyer: ‘Facts Have Been Spun by the Media’
Craig Sonner is keeping mum on the details of the night Trayvon Martin was killed. But he says he's preparing for anything, including a trial.
April 2, 2012

When George Zimmerman’s lawyer, Orlando-based criminal defense attorney Craig Sonner, defended his client to TIME on Sunday night, he would not say whether he is gathering evidence for a trial. But he hints he is thinking ahead to a criminal case. “I err on the side of preparedness,” he says. “Every time I take a case I prepare as though I am going to trial.”
 ::snipping2::

Two independent forensic voice identification experts found that Zimmerman’s voice did not match the voice crying for help recorded on the 911 calls, according to an Orlando Sentinel investigative report. Sonner replies that throughout the case, “The facts of the evening…have been spun by the media.”

Sonner, who is representing Zimmerman for the first time, took the increasingly high-profile case after Zimmerman’s father reached out to him on his son’s behalf. He did not say whether his client is employed, but he did say that threats against the volunteer watchman are so great that he and his family (he is married but has no children) may never be able to ever return to their home at the Retreat at Twin Lakes. Sonner too has received threats, and his phone is jammed.

Thus far, Sonner says he has had zero communication with Trayvon Martin’s family attorneys. A criminal trial, he explains, would be between the State of Florida and George Zimmerman and would not involve the family lawyers.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/02/george-zimmermans-lawyer-facts-have-been-spun-by-the-media/#ixzz1qudnFnRF


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 02, 2012, 04:01:26 PM
Did anyone hear on a morning program when a black speaker talking about Trayvon, said something like, 'Florida, you may have let Casey Anthony go free but you bet not let George Zimmerman go free.'..not word for word but the gist of it...anyways, it caught my attention when he mentioned Casey Anthony. Her case will be brought up forever and ever...The injustice of it all...



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 02, 2012, 05:55:18 PM
This alleged doctoring of the 911 tapes and the "enhanced" police video tapes brings to mind all the scams & conjecture with the Skeeter's / Deepak tapes.  Meanwhile that lawsuit is still dragging on in the courts.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 02, 2012, 06:15:40 PM

Good Evening Monkey's,

snip...

George Zimmerman was arrested before Trayvon Martin case,
accused of domestic violence, fighting


Zimmerman went to court in 2005 and 2006


Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/george-zimmerman-was-arrested-before-trayvon-martin-case-previously-accused-of-domestic-violence#ixzz1qvK6E8DV

Posted: 03/28/2012

By: WPTV Web Team

 ::MonkeyEek::

Msnbc.com reports that in 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer.” He was 20 years old at the time and both charges are third-degree felonies.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

According to the report, the charges were reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Msnbc.com reports that accounts indicated Zimermann shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at a bar.

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/george-zimmerman-was-arrested-before-trayvon-martin-case-previously-accused-of-domestic-violence#ixzz1qvIJ8H7I


http://www.wptv.com




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 02, 2012, 06:19:12 PM
Did anyone hear on a morning program when a black speaker talking about Trayvon, said something like, 'Florida, you may have let Casey Anthony go free but you bet not let George Zimmerman go free.'..not word for word but the gist of it...anyways, it caught my attention when he mentioned Casey Anthony. Her case will be brought up forever and ever...The injustice of it all...



No, I have not heard a thing.  I was too busy trying to find the 1940 Census, LOL.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 02, 2012, 08:18:28 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/02/911-call-shows-zimmerman-stopped-following-martin-after-dispatchers-request-corroborates-story/


April 2, 2012
911 call shows Zimmerman stopped following Martin after dispatcher’s request, corroborates story


It’s bad enough to see the media make assumptions in advance of the facts. What is so depressing about the coverage of the Trayvon Martin shooting is the extent to which the media made assumptions not only before the facts were available but in spite of contradictory evidence that was already available.
The 911 call George Zimmerman made on the night of Martin’s death is perhaps the most crucial piece of evidence cited by the media to drive the narrative that Zimmerman attacked Martin. Yet listening to reporters and talking heads discuss the case, it is as though not a single one of them has ever bothered to listen to the full call. In fact, as Breitbart.com has already revealed, NBC deceptively edited the tape of the 911 call to make it look like Zimmerman was motivated by racial animosity or bias, something that has been widely reported as factual from the beginning.

To this day, even relatively responsible journalists and commentators begin their commentary by saying things like, “There is a lot about the Martin shooting we don’t know, but what we do know is Zimmerman continued following Martin even after the police told him to stop.” The original story, still maintained by various CNN analysts, was even worse: that Zimmerman hunted down and murdered Martin in cold blood.
I have no idea where this assertion of fact could possibly have come from, but it is absolutely universal. Even now, pundits on every channel maintain that Zimmerman disobeyed a police order (though it wasn’t even an order) and continued chasing Martin. Zimmerman’s story from the beginning to police and to the media has been that he stopped following when the dispatcher told him to. There have been no witness statements to the contrary. For that matter, there are no witnesses claiming to have seen what happened before the physical altercation took place. But what does the 911 tape tell us?

From the call released by the Sanford Police:

At 2:07, Zimmerman tells the dispatcher, “He’s running.”

At 2:09, you can hear a car door open and an alarm begins that is undoubtedly the “door open, keys in ignition” warning on Zimmerman’s truck.

At 2:13, you can clearly hear the car door slamming shut, and the alarm stops.

At 2:17, Zimmerman’s voice wobbles and he starts breathing heavily into the phone, indicating that he has started running.

At 2:22, without any prompting other than the aforementioned noises and breathing, the dispatcher asks “Are you following him?” to which Zimmerman responds, “Yeah.”

At 2:26, the dispatcher says, “Okay, we don’t need you to do that,” to which Zimmerman responds, “Okay.”
Zimmerman proceeds to give the dispatcher his name. Then he says, “He ran.”
Zimmerman can still be heard breathing into the phone until about 2:39, at which point the heavy breathing stops entirely, a mere 13 seconds after the dispatcher asked him to stop following. A very calm and collected Zimmerman then proceeds to give the dispatcher his own information, directions and a description of his location for another 1 minute and 33 seconds.
The difference between someone running while on the phone and not running can be heard quite clearly, and I encourage readers to listen for themselves.


There’s another reason to believe that Zimmerman stopped following Martin: After he gives the dispatcher his personal address, at 3:35, he says, “Oh crap, I don’t want to give that all out. I don’t know where this kid is,” meaning he is worried Martin might hear where he lives. If Zimmerman doesn’t even know where Martin is, would it even be possible for him to still be following Martin at this point? Would it even be possible for him to have continued following Martin after hanging up the phone — a full two minutes after he first got out of his car and a minute and a half after he fully stops breathing heavily — unless Martin came back and revealed himself?
It was a mistake for Zimmerman to leave his car in the first place. But while the audio may not decisively prove that Zimmerman stopped following Martin when the dispatcher asked him to, it is very strong evidence that he did, especially when coupled with his testimony to police the night of the incident. But that isn’t even the point.
The point is this: With no witnesses stating that Zimmerman defied the dispatcher’s wishes and continued following Martin and no evidence to suggest he did, how did the idea that he pursued Martin after the dispatcher told him not to become a universally recognized, undisputed fact?
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 02, 2012, 08:20:38 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/04/02/149866754/zimmermans-attorney-this-is-not-a-race-issue

George Zimmerman's Attorney: 'This Is Not A Race Issue'
05:08 pm
April 2, 2012

 ::snipping2::
During an interview with Tell Me More's Michel Martin (no relation), attorney Craig Sonner said his client George Zimmerman had black friends, who he's talked to and they have vouched for him.

In one case, he said, Zimmerman, who is white of Hispanic descent, mentored a black woman's daughter and son. He asked the woman if Zimmerman was a racist and whether he used racial slurs, and she answered no. "She had good things to say," said Sonner adding that both that woman and another black friend of Zimmerman's won't come forward because they are afraid of backlash.
 ::snipping2::
Here are a few more highlights of Michel and Sonner's conversation:

— Sonner said the 911 tape released by the police department is "not the whole 911 tape." Sonner did not elaborate on what that meant.

— Sonner continually said that the portrayal of this case in the media has been misleading.

"Let law enforcement do their job," he said. "Let the court system do its job. Let's get all the information the legal way not just some of things that come out in blurbs. There are legal requirements as to what's admissible evidence and what isn't. And when it comes down to that we'll see the facts from the legal perspective and we'll see what happened."

— Paragraph 3 of the stand your ground law will be relevant to Zimmerman's defense if this case goes to trial, said Sonner. Paragraph 3 of the statute states that a person has a right to stand his ground and "meet force with force."

— Sonner would not comment on any previous arrests in Zimmerman's background. He said those, if they exist, would likely be inadmissible in court anyway.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 02, 2012, 09:03:40 PM
Jam cakes...very good info in your post ...pretty thought provoking


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 02, 2012, 09:38:33 PM
Here is GZ's 911 call in full:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-gp8mrdw

And I hear GZ say F'ing Punks,  not the C word.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 02, 2012, 09:41:30 PM
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/02/10983757-fbi-questions-people-in-trayvon-martin-case-begins-parallel-investigation

FBI questions people in Trayvon Martin case, begins 'parallel investigation'
By Michael Isikoff, NBC News

SANFORD, Fla. -- FBI agents on Monday were questioning potential witnesses in the Trayvon Martin shooting, confirming to NBC News that the agency had begun a "parallel investigation" that focuses on whether the teen's civil rights were violated.

Agents are seeking information on George Zimmerman's background and whether he was racially motivated when he pursued Martin after calling a 911 police dispatcher about his presence in the community, an FBI official told NBC.

The agents were at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, where Martin was shot dead by Zimmerman, the gated community's neighborhood watch captain.
 

The state of Florida is conducting its own investigation in the shooting and that one is being overseen by a special prosecutor.
 
Although the Justice Department two weeks ago publicly announced it would examine potential civil rights violations, the arrival of bureau agents represents a new phase in inquiries into the case.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 02, 2012, 09:50:45 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/trayvon-martins-parents-ask-dept-justice-prosecuto/nMHj7/

Trayvon Martin's parents ask Dept. of Justice for prosecutor probe

Quote
The attorney for Martin's family, Benjamin Crump, wrote:  "Within hours of the shooting, Sanford Chief of Police Bill Lee met with State Attorney Norm Wolfinger. We also believe that family members of the shooter, George Zimmerman, were present at the police department."

 

Quote
In a statement, Wolfinger expressed outrage by what he called, "outright lies" in the letter by Crump. 
Also, he encouraged the Department of Justice to investigate and to document that no such meeting or communication occurred.

What a waste of time! 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 02, 2012, 10:01:02 PM
If that's the case,then let's investigate every damn person that is currently connected to LE then. (in the Orlando area). I'm sure they are covering for the SFPD. GMAB!

Seriously?





Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 02, 2012, 10:05:58 PM
Why the heck do they want the Prosecutor Probed for?



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 02, 2012, 10:15:58 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video
Trayvon Martin: Enhanced Zimmerman video shows possible head wound
April 2, 2012

A newly enhanced version of police video taken on the night of the Trayvon Martinshooting more clearly shows a possible gash or injury on the back of shooter George Zimmerman's head.

ABC News debuted the new video today. In it, an apparent wound of some type can be seen on Zimmerman's head when he turns away from the camera.

The video is an enhanced version of surveillance tape released by the Sanford Police Department last week. It shows Zimmerman being taken into SPD headquarters after the shooting.

Zimmerman was seen by paramedics after the shooting, officials have said, and was released without being arrested that night after he was interviewed by detectives.

In the original version of the video, no injuries were visibly apparent. The video was enhanced for ABC News by Forensic Protection, a California video and audio enhancement firm.

In the enhanced video, as in the original, no blood is visible on Zimmerman or his clothing.
 ::snipping2::



Wonder why there is no blood visible on the clothing? 


A poster on another Forum, suggested, GZ's head, may have landed on a lawn sprinkler.
The AG should make a model of the sprinkler, and see if it fits between the two welts,
on the back of his head.  ::MonkeyEek:: IMO

A link to a sprinkler http://www.qualitydist.net/nel-50201n.html (IDK if this is the type)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 02, 2012, 10:22:09 PM
The EMT's cleaned him up at the scene.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 02, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
Jam cakes...very good info in your post ...pretty thought provoking


Absolutely. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 03, 2012, 12:22:11 AM
 ::snipping2::

The letter also described how Zimmerman was one of “very few” in Sanford, Fla., who spoke out publicly to condemn the “beating of the black homeless man Sherman Ware on December 4, 2010 by the son of a Sanford police officer.”
 “Do you know the individual that stepped up when no one else in the black community would?” the family member wrote. “Do you know who spent tireless hours putting flyers on the cars of persons parked in the churches of the black community? Do you know who waited for the church‐goers to get out of church so that he could hand them fliers in an attempt to organize the black community against this horrible miscarriage of justice? Do you know who helped organize the City Hall meeting on January 8th, 2011 at Sanford City Hall??”
 
“That person was GEORGE ZIMMERMAN. Ironic isn’t it?”   ::snipping2:: 


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/02/zimmerman-family-member-calls-naacp-racists-says-there-will-be-blood-on-your-hands-if-george-is-hurt/#ixzz1qwo4oflY


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 03, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
This case just gets more twists and turns as time goes on.
I don't think that this was racial on Zimmerman's part....the media and a group of people have made it racial IMO.... I just think that he was/is a Barney Fife who let it go to his head that he was important and powerful because he was carrying a gun....a wanna be cop if you will...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: can on April 03, 2012, 10:00:35 AM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-enhanced-20120402_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-shooting-original-video
Trayvon Martin: Enhanced Zimmerman video shows possible head wound
April 2, 2012

A newly enhanced version of police video taken on the night of the Trayvon Martinshooting more clearly shows a possible gash or injury on the back of shooter George Zimmerman's head.

ABC News debuted the new video today. In it, an apparent wound of some type can be seen on Zimmerman's head when he turns away from the camera.

The video is an enhanced version of surveillance tape released by the Sanford Police Department last week. It shows Zimmerman being taken into SPD headquarters after the shooting.

Zimmerman was seen by paramedics after the shooting, officials have said, and was released without being arrested that night after he was interviewed by detectives.

In the original version of the video, no injuries were visibly apparent. The video was enhanced for ABC News by Forensic Protection, a California video and audio enhancement firm.

In the enhanced video, as in the original, no blood is visible on Zimmerman or his clothing.
 ::snipping2::



Wonder why there is no blood visible on the clothing? 


A poster on another Forum, suggested, GZ's head, may have landed on a lawn sprinkler.
The AG should make a model of the sprinkler, and see if it fits between the two welts,
on the back of his head.  ::MonkeyEek:: IMO

A link to a sprinkler http://www.qualitydist.net/nel-50201n.html (IDK if this is the type)
maybe as jamcakes suggested earlier, blood on the clothing might not be visible due to the color of the jacket. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 03, 2012, 10:14:50 AM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-qa3-20120402_1_civil-rights-gated-community-robert-zimmerman

Trayvon Martin facts vs. rumors



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 03, 2012, 10:19:40 AM
I guess the author never saw or read what we did.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Zimmerman supporters are blaming the victim
By D. Barbara McWhite – March 27, 2012



D. Barbara McWhite grew up in York County, S.C., and lives in Orange Park, Fla., with her husband and cat. Her column is published here each Tuesday. Opinions expressed are solely her own.

A full month after the slaying of Trayvon Martin, there is still no arrest in the case. The shooter, George Zimmerman, is in hiding, saying he fears for his life amid mass protests and the New Black Panthers' $10,000 bounty for his “capture.”

And as calls for justice in the case continue to swell, Zimmerman supporters, seeking to add credence to his account of the shooting, have begun to dig up disparaging information on Trayvon, based on his school records and Facebook and Twitter accounts.

Zimmerman supporters criticized early pictures shown in news reports that depicted the teen as young, fresh-faced and innocent, so they have presented what are purported to be more mature and unkempt images of the young man -- one in which Trayvon is seen with a mouth full of gold teeth; in another he is shirtless and with pants sagging. In one purported Facebook picture, Trayvon is allegedly seen with his middle finger erect on both hands.
 ::snipping2::

Zimmerman supporters, in online blogs, point out to protesters that they weren't present when Trayvon was killed, so they are ignorant of the facts. They also point to Trayvon’s alleged marijuana use, gold teeth and his demeanor on alleged Facebook pictures as proof that he had a thug mentality and was fully capable of the violent behavior that Zimmerman accuses him of.

I believe it is fair that Trayvon's past be investigated, just as George Zimmerman's past is being scrutinized. But the irrational attempts to justify the killing of this young man by insinuating that he brought death upon himself because he looked, dressed or posed in a certain way is repugnant and evil.

Meanwhile, we don't know whether George Zimmerman was intoxicated on the night of the killing because Sandford police failed to test him for alcohol or drugs. We do know that Zimmerman was a cop wannabe and that he had made numerous calls to 911 over the last several months.

We know that Zimmerman made disparaging and possibly racist comments as he stalked Trayvon through the housing complex.

I don't need to defend or justify Trayvon Martin against these accusations. It is irrelevant whether he smoked marijuana. It is irrelevant if he wore a gold grill. It is even irrelevant if it is indeed him pictured giving the finger on Facebook. As a parent, I condemn these practices. But if we were to execute all who have been guilty of any or all of the above, I dare say, the world would be a decidedly empty place.

What is relevant is that on the date of his death, Trayvon was in his family's neighborhood. He was on common property. He was not in the act of committing a crime. Police have not claimed that he was anything other than sober.

What is relevant is that by George Zimmerman's own admission, Trayvon was profiled based on his clothing and his race and assigned the label "suspicious." He was followed, questioned by an adult who outweighed him by more than 100 pounds and who was armed with a gun.

And finally the boy was killed.

When I think back to the Natalie Holloway murder and how it consumed America's news for months, I don't remember hearing attempts to sully her reputation. No one asked why she was drinking. No one asked if drugs were involved. No one questioned what she wore. No one asked why she would leave a bar with a complete stranger. No one tried to say that she brought about her own demise because of her looks or behavior. And rightfully so.

It is never right to blame the victim for the crime committed against him or her. The deranged and evil killer who took the life of Natalie Holloway killed her not because of who she was but because of who he was. Yet Joran Vandersloot was protected and sheltered from the law by his parents, his supporters and by the Aruban legal system that seemed bent on protecting it's own while devaluing the life of the "outsider." The killer, Vandersloot, was saved from prosecution by those who perverted the law and used their influence and money to stand between him and justice.

The result was that five years to the day after Holloway's disappearance, Vandersloot savagely claimed another victim. Justice finally prevailed in that instance, but the price paid was the life of another young girl.

It is said that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, especially recent past behavior. And given the information that has surfaced thus far, I am more concerned about the erratic and irrational behavior of the adult, George Zimmerman, than I am about the teenage behaviors of Trayvon Martin.

Laws exist to punish criminal behavior, to deter crime and to protect society from those who would go outside of the law to abuse and harm us.

Zimmerman's supporters are using irrelevant information in an attempt to muddy the water in this case, thereby allowing a killer to escape just punishment for his crime.

And to George Zimmerman supporters I say, if Vandersloot tactics are used to keep George Zimmerman from answering for this crime, the next child he kills might well be yours.

http://www.qcitymetro.com/living/articles/zimmerman_supporters_are_blaming_the_victim080508939.cfm


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 03, 2012, 10:22:04 AM
jamcakes,

Thanks for posting that article.  I say there is no way in h3ll that woman followed Natalee's case.
Edit to fix name.  MB


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 03, 2012, 10:59:41 AM
jamcakes,

Thanks for posting that article.  I say there is no way in h3ll that woman followed Natalee's case.
Edit to fix name.  MB

I agree, KittyMom.

I was so appalled by the comparison, that I felt compelled to leave a comment on her article.  I hope they publish it intact.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 03, 2012, 11:27:34 AM
This case just gets more twists and turns as time goes on.
I don't think that this was racial on Zimmerman's part....the media and a group of people have made it racial IMO.... I just think that he was/is a Barney Fife who let it go to his head that he was important and powerful because he was carrying a gun....a wanna be cop if you will...


Hi Monkey's,

Cookie, I AGREE with you, I do not believe it was racial.  I believe GZ, does not like
anyone, he is an equal disliker, imo.  I believe he wanted to be a Hero, he watched
too many Detective shows on TV.

IMO
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 03, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
jamcakes,

Thanks for posting that article.  I say there is no way in h3ll that woman followed Natalee's case.
Edit to fix name.  MB
Oops!  I know someone that spells the name with 'ie' and I never do it correctly on here.  No disrespect meant.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: littleone on April 03, 2012, 12:11:53 PM
This case is a prime example why I feel that the "Make My Day" law is WRONG!! In an instant two families lives are changed forever. There truly are no winners in this case.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 03, 2012, 12:21:10 PM
jamcakes,

Thanks for posting that article.  I say there is no way in h3ll that woman followed Natalee's case.
Edit to fix name.  MB
Oops!  I know someone that spells the name with 'ie' and I never do it correctly on here.  No disrespect meant.

It's an easy error to make particularly since the article you were remarking on misspelled it.   ::MonkeyWink::  I correct victims names or information when I'm able.  It didn't occur to me you meant any disrespect KittyMom.   ::MonkeyKiss::  You see, when I go into someone's post and change something I make a moderator's note to explain.  I wouldn't be comfortable myself if someone could go in and change what I posted without explanation, and I give my fellow monkeys the same respect, and it's also why its in tiny print.  If I want someone's attention or if I thought your post was disrespectful, the font would be big, red and bold.  ::bee:: 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 03, 2012, 01:08:20 PM
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/03/zimmerman-neighbor-fmr-neighborhood-watch-captain-prior-burglaries-were-by-young-black-males-if-you-plant-corn-you-get-corn/

April 3rd, 2012
09:42 AM ET
Zimmerman neighbor, fmr. Neighborhood Watch captain: Prior burglaries were by 'young black males;' 'if you plant corn, you get corn'

Frank Taaffe, George Zimmerman’s neighbor and former Neighborhood Watch captain, tells CNN’s Soledad O’Brien that prior robberies in area were by young black males and that Zimmerman protected his residence from a potential burglary on February 2nd. Taaffe denies telling The New York Times that the prior burglaries were done by “Trayvon-like dudes with their pants down."
 
Taffe says, “We had eight burglaries in our neighborhood all perpetrated by young black males in the 15 months prior to Trayvon being shot. It would have been nine - there would have been nine, but George Zimmerman through his efforts of being a neighborhood watch captain helped stop one in progress, documented in the 911 calls February 2. My house was being robbed, and George on his nightly rounds watched this burglary in progress, called Sanford P.D., waited for them, and helped ensure that nothing bad happened to my house. And it's documented the 911 call for February 2. That was my residence that George Zimmerman helped stop.”
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 03, 2012, 03:05:40 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/3/hicks-trayvon-case-shows-racist-epithet-persists/
HICKS: Trayvon case shows ‘racist’ epithet persists
April 3, 2012

(2 Pgs.)




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 03, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
Very Interesting  ::MonkeyCool::



EXCLUSIVE: Trayvon Martin Family Attorney Raises Questions
 About The Role Of George Zimmerman’s Father


By Judd Legum on Apr 3, 2012 at 3:40 pm

In an interview with ThinkProgress, Martin family attorney Natalie Jackson raised serious questions about the role of George Zimmerman’s father, Robert Zimmerman, in the case.



 ::snipping2::


The day after the shooting, George Zimmerman, according to his father, returned with at least three police officers to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, back to that grassy area where plaintive cries for help had gone unanswered. The investigators, accompanied by someone with a video camera, wanted him to re-enact the events of the night when the two strangers had stood their ground.

Mr. Zimmerman’s father watched from nearby.


 ::snipping2::

Edit to add link per seahorse.  MB
  http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/04/03/457593/trayvonmartin-family-attorney-questions-robert-zimmerman/?mobile=nc


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 03, 2012, 05:53:23 PM
Very Interesting  ::MonkeyCool::

My apologies, I forgot to post the Link.


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/04/03/457593/trayvonmartin-family-attorney-questions-robert-zimmerman/?mobile=nc


EXCLUSIVE: Trayvon Martin Family Attorney Raises Questions
 About The Role Of George Zimmerman’s Father


By Judd Legum on Apr 3, 2012 at 3:40 pm

In an interview with ThinkProgress, Martin family attorney Natalie Jackson raised serious questions about the role of George Zimmerman’s father, Robert Zimmerman, in the case.



 ::snipping2::


The day after the shooting, George Zimmerman, according to his father, returned with at least three police officers to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, back to that grassy area where plaintive cries for help had gone unanswered. The investigators, accompanied by someone with a video camera, wanted him to re-enact the events of the night when the two strangers had stood their ground.

Mr. Zimmerman’s father watched from nearby.


 ::snipping2::

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/04/03/457593/trayvonmartin-family-attorney-questions-robert-zimmerman/?mobile=nc


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 03, 2012, 07:22:49 PM
Dispicable.  The only regrets they have is because they got caught imo.  The really sad thing is, damage is done. Isn't it interesting how the editing out of a sentence or two changes the original  meaning and intent of the person speaking?   It reminds me of some posts on forums, when articles are sometimes snipped not for brevity, but for the posters own purpose, and I've even seen the  snippets of the quotes rearranged in order.  Yes, it's quoted, but it's been manipulated.  Creditability goes right down the drain imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: And of course, it's JMHO

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/nbcnews-trayvonmartin-idUSL2E8F3DHF20120403
NBC News regrets editing of Trayvon shooting call
April 3, 2012

(Reuters) - NBC News apologized on Tuesday for the way it edited a broadcast of a conversation between George Zimmerman and a police dispatcher before teenager Trayvon Martin was killed by Zimmerman.
 ::snipping2::



The Fox News report can be viewed on the website of the News Corp unit.

The "Today" show's segment ran as:

"Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."

The full conversation ran as:

"Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy - is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 03, 2012, 07:31:46 PM
I find this article very interesting:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-florida-shooting-trayvonbre8320uk-20120403,0,2751266.story

from page 3:

Martin turned to Patricia Jones, his sister-in-law.

An attorney herself, she knew whom to call: Benjamin Crump, the state's best-known civil rights attorney, based in Tallahassee. Crump and law partner Daryl Parks had previously gained renown representing the family of a black teenager who died in a boot-camp-style youth detention center in 2006, winning the boy's family $7.2 million in damages from the state of Florida and Bay County.

"I told him to believe in the system," Crump said of that first call. "I really believed they were going to arrest Zimmerman. I said, 'He's a neighborhood watch person with a gun. Of course they are going to arrest him just for that.'" "Then 48 hours passed and they still hadn't arrested him," Crump said. "After that we just had to do what we had to do."

He took the case pro bono. Realizing he needed a lawyer who knew Sanford and Seminole County, Crump turned to Natalie Jackson, a former Navy intelligence officer who founded the Women's Trial Group, which specializes in cases for women and children. Her mother lives in Sanford.


Now Crump and Jackson needed a media strategy. On March 5, Jackson brought in Ryan Julison, a publicist who had worked with her on a number of high-profile cases. After speaking with Tracy Martin, Julison said he also took the job for free and went to work pitching the story to national media.

"I got on the phone with Tracy Martin and I told him, ‘It's not going to be any fun, but this is the only way to find justice,'" Julison said. "You are going to have to bare your soul and express your emotions and your inner grief." Martin and Fulton agreed. There was only one problem. At first, the media weren't interested. Julison pitched the story to a long list of media contacts.

Eventually, on March 7, Reuters published a story titled "Family of Florida Boy Killed by Neighborhood Watch Seeks Arrest." The next day, CBS News aired a segment on "This Morning," and by 10 a.m. a crowd of reporters gathered at Natalie Jackson's law office for a news conference with Ben Crump and Tracy Martin. A media firestorm had begun.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 03, 2012, 08:48:51 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/04/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-hires-casey-anthony-tv-analyst.html

 ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2012, 10:20:06 PM
NBC issues apology for edited Zimmerman 911 call
Published April 03, 2012


<snipped>

NBC's "Today" show ran the edited audio of Zimmerman's phone call to a police dispatcher, seeming to show Zimmerman saying, "This guy looks like he's up to no good … he looks black."

A transcript of the complete 911 call shows that Zimmerman said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."

The 911 officer responded saying, "OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?"

"He looks black," Zimmerman said.

The abridged conversation between Zimmerman and the dispatcher that NBC ran on March 27 has been blasted by media watchdog groups as misleading. Critics have said the edited version was made to suggest that Zimmerman targeted Martin because he was black -- an accusation by many that is still under investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/nbc-issues-apology-edited-zimmerman-11-call/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 03, 2012, 10:28:39 PM
Enhanced video of Zimmerman in police station appears to show injuries
Published April 03, 2012


Enhanced video of George Zimmerman being led into a Florida police station appears to show possible injuries to the back of his head, lending credence to his claim he was in a struggle with Trayvon Martin when he shot the teen.

ABC News initially released video of Zimmerman that did not clearly show marks on his scalp, but had the video enhanced digitally and released a new clip on Monday. That clip appears to show a gash.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/enhanced-video-zimmerman-in-police-station-appears-to-show-injuries/?test=latestnews



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 03, 2012, 10:35:58 PM
Tonight driving through our neighborhood to home...3 kids were walking with hoodies on...dark out, not raining, not cold here, could not tell what race they were until I was right even with them...they were white, I am white...but honestly, I do see how this looks kind of, what is the word...not suspicious as much as why are you hiding your faces? What are you up to...this does not make me racist, this makes me cautious...does that make sense to you all? I am not saying that anyone who wears a hoodie on their head is up to no good, but most of their face is obscured...at our bank there is a sign posted, no hoodies on the head, sunglasses  on when entering this bank. Most of the robberies in our town has involved someone wearing a hoodie...whether white or black committing the robberies, I do not know...but hoodies have been involved..
Mind you, I wear hoodies all the time myself, love them, but not where it covers my head or face although I would pull the hood onto my head if I was out in the rain....


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 03, 2012, 10:44:05 PM
So what's the Martin Family going to do If this goes to trial and the jury says "Not Guilty' or the GJ decides there is not enough evidence to charge?



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 03, 2012, 10:49:45 PM
So what's the Martin Family going to do If this goes to trial and the jury says "Not Guilty' or the GJ decides there is not enough evidence to charge?



I am sure that they fill be filing all kinds of lawsuits.against the police, George Zimmerman, the city, the homeowners association etc,,,and Sharpton and Jessie will be tending there with their hands out...j,o


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 03, 2012, 10:50:39 PM
Should have bee will not fill^^^^


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 03, 2012, 10:51:02 PM
Darn iPad


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 03, 2012, 10:51:36 PM
Tonight driving through our neighborhood to home...3 kids were walking with hoodies on...dark out, not raining, not cold here, could not tell what race they were until I was right even with them...they were white, I am white...but honestly, I do see how this looks kind of, what is the word...not suspicious as much as why are you hiding your faces? What are you up to...this does not make me racist, this makes me cautious...does that make sense to you all? I am not saying that anyone who wears a hoodie on their head is up to no good, but most of their face is obscured...at our bank there is a sign posted, no hoodies on the head, sunglasses  on when entering this bank. Most of the robberies in our town has involved someone wearing a hoodie...whether white or black committing the robberies, I do not know...but hoodies have been involved..
Mind you, I wear hoodies all the time myself, love them, but not where it covers my head or face although I would pull the hood onto my head if I was out in the rain....


I understand what you mean being suspicious and all.  I am sure that someone is going to bring up that it was raining that night and so his hoodie was on...however, I understand what you are saying.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 03, 2012, 10:52:23 PM
So what's the Martin Family going to do If this goes to trial and the jury says "Not Guilty' or the GJ decides there is not enough evidence to charge?



I am sure that they fill be filing all kinds of lawsuits.against the police, George Zimmerman, the city, the homeowners association etc,,,and Sharpton and Jessie will be tending there with their hands out...j,o


Yep...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 03, 2012, 10:53:28 PM
I think that it was raining that night...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 03, 2012, 11:03:52 PM
I think that it was raining that night...

Yes, it was. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 03, 2012, 11:40:00 PM
Video at link

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/04/03/zimmerman-could-walk-free-lawyer-says

George Zimmerman could walk free, lawyer says
By HLNtv staff
updated 10:18 PM EDT, Tue April 03, 2012

NEED TO KNOW
•Attorney explains how Florida’s’Stand Your Ground’ law could apply even if Zimmerman initially was the aggressor
•Attorney: ‘Stand Your Ground’ law could grant immunity for George Zimmerman’

Criminal defense attorney Mark Eiglarsh tells HLN’s Dr. Drew how Florida’s ‘Stand Your Ground” law could grant immunity to Trayvon Martin’s killer George Zimmerman.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 03, 2012, 11:51:32 PM
Tonight driving through our neighborhood to home...3 kids were walking with hoodies on...dark out, not raining, not cold here, could not tell what race they were until I was right even with them...they were white, I am white...but honestly, I do see how this looks kind of, what is the word...not suspicious as much as why are you hiding your faces? What are you up to...this does not make me racist, this makes me cautious...does that make sense to you all? I am not saying that anyone who wears a hoodie on their head is up to no good, but most of their face is obscured...at our bank there is a sign posted, no hoodies on the head, sunglasses  on when entering this bank. Most of the robberies in our town has involved someone wearing a hoodie...whether white or black committing the robberies, I do not know...but hoodies have been involved..
Mind you, I wear hoodies all the time myself, love them, but not where it covers my head or face although I would pull the hood onto my head if I was out in the rain....


I always called them sweat shirts or sweat jackets, not hoodies.

Not that they are associated with protests, I may have to rethink my wardrobe.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 03, 2012, 11:56:16 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-03/news/os-george-zimmerman-lawyer-sonner-20120403_1_defense-team-lawrence-o-donnell-wofl-channel

Zimmerman's lawyer: Cub Scout leader, martial-arts expert, one-man law firm
10:55 p.m. EST, April 3, 2012

Craig Sonner has never defended a client accused in a homicide, but he now represents George Zimmerman, the man at the center of one of the nation's most racially divisive shootings in years.

And Sonner predicts he'll have no problem clearing Zimmerman.

"I believed his story of how he was defending himself," said 47-year-old Sonner, a one-man Altamonte Springs law firm. "I've already got a number of experts lined up to take this one … I don't think we're going to have a problem exonerating George Zimmerman."
 ::snipping2::
He is confident of their client's self-defense claim, Uhrig told WOFL, in part because Zimmerman has already passed a voice-stress test, something similar to a lie-detector test, administered by Sanford police.

Both lawyers said they never have met Zimmerman face to face.

"Because of the danger he faces, we communicate only by phone," Sonner said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 04, 2012, 02:08:20 AM
Thank you, grace-land, for the link.

Trayvon's father looks about as heart broken as a man can look.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I keep thinking there are at least 100,000 heartbroken loved ones, who lost family members,
friends and neighbors, from war conflicts, past and present. :(

Why is this story so passionate among the US?  I think T.M. case hits a nerve, because everyones Freedom, could be at stake. If TM life could be discounted so easily, could mine, and everyone elses life, be of little valve, too? 

Hi Seahorse.  I can only speak for myself... a mother of an 18 year old son preparing to join the Coast Guard.  If he were to die defending his country I would be no less heartbroken but at least his death would not feel senseless.

If my child were to be murdered the way Trayvon was murdered and the police were taking no measures to investigate or prosecute the man who stalked my child on a rainy eve then shot him, I would be beside myself with agony and frustration.

There is a lot of passion about Trayvon's death and I totally agree with your assessment about why... to let the life of a 17 year old boy be discounted so easily would be an indication of how low our society has gone.  I for one am thankful the public has taken this on.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 04, 2012, 02:30:00 AM
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/02/10983757-fbi-questions-people-in-trayvon-martin-case-begins-parallel-investigation

FBI questions people in Trayvon Martin case, begins 'parallel investigation'
By Michael Isikoff, NBC News

SANFORD, Fla. -- FBI agents on Monday were questioning potential witnesses in the Trayvon Martin shooting, confirming to NBC News that the agency had begun a "parallel investigation" that focuses on whether the teen's civil rights were violated.

Agents are seeking information on George Zimmerman's background and whether he was racially motivated when he pursued Martin after calling a 911 police dispatcher about his presence in the community, an FBI official told NBC.

The agents were at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, where Martin was shot dead by Zimmerman, the gated community's neighborhood watch captain.
 

The state of Florida is conducting its own investigation in the shooting and that one is being overseen by a special prosecutor.
 
Although the Justice Department two weeks ago publicly announced it would examine potential civil rights violations, the arrival of bureau agents represents a new phase in inquiries into the case.
 ::snipping2::


I hope investigators don't focus so tightly on Trayvon's civil rights or possible racial profiling by George Zimmerman that they lose sight of the fact that a murder was committed.

It's possible George Zimmerman would have done exactly the same thing if a white boy in a hoodie was walking through his neighborhood. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 04, 2012, 02:32:48 AM
This case just gets more twists and turns as time goes on.
I don't think that this was racial on Zimmerman's part....the media and a group of people have made it racial IMO.... I just think that he was/is a Barney Fife who let it go to his head that he was important and powerful because he was carrying a gun....a wanna be cop if you will...


 ::rhino::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 04, 2012, 08:14:04 AM
Thank you, grace-land, for the link.

Trayvon's father looks about as heart broken as a man can look.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

I keep thinking there are at least 100,000 heartbroken loved ones, who lost family members,
friends and neighbors, from war conflicts, past and present. :(

Why is this story so passionate among the US?  I think T.M. case hits a nerve, because everyones Freedom, could be at stake. If TM life could be discounted so easily, could mine, and everyone elses life, be of little valve, too? 

Hi Seahorse.  I can only speak for myself... a mother of an 18 year old son preparing to join the Coast Guard.  If he were to die defending his country I would be no less heartbroken but at least his death would not feel senseless.

If my child were to be murdered the way Trayvon was murdered and the police were taking no measures to investigate or prosecute the man who stalked my child on a rainy eve then shot him, I would be beside myself with agony and frustration.

There is a lot of passion about Trayvon's death and I totally agree with your assessment about why... to let the life of a 17 year old boy be discounted so easily would be an indication of how low our society has gone.  I for one am thankful the public has taken this on.
Thank-you for you generous and thoughtful response.   Your son should have a good experience in the service.  I spent three years in the army, the most unlikely person on this
Earth to march and shine boots, it was the best experience of my life, not always smooth, you know you not never alone in service. There is always someone to laugh with,
someone witty, whereever I went, wit keeps us going through the ups and downs.

I remember in Basic Training, a fellow recruit, commented how the miltary glasses looked like “Mr. Bunny Rabbit” glasses, (stems back to Captain Kangaroo), sometimes, a silly
comment keeps your morale up.


There is in a sense, ‘a hand of God’ seems to be in this case, by all accounts, this case should have been off the radio screen. :)

 ::justice2NJ::


"Hard times make good people better and bad people worse"  Quotes by Cousin Luanne




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 04, 2012, 08:31:37 AM
Amy's sister, I do think that Zimmerman would have reacted the same way to anyone he saw in the neighborhood walking around with a hoodie on...black people are not the only race who wear hoodies..a previous post of mine, 3 youths were in my neighborhood walking with their hoodies on, I could see that they were all 3 white only when I was even with them while driving next to them...one of them was a girl, which I could not see from behind them...
Their faces were almost covered as the hoodies were pulled pretty far down on their faces...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 04, 2012, 09:28:30 AM
http://newsone.com/newsone-original/paulshepard/who-is-robert-zimmerman/

Is George Zimmerman’s Dad Controlling The Trayvon Case?

Written by Paul Shepard on April 3, 2012 11:47 am 

::MonkeyGavel::



"Good Question's are better than good answer's"


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: 4getUnot on April 04, 2012, 03:30:59 PM
Hi Monkeys!
Just wanted to express my thoughts about this case and Thank God I can come here to do it  I am shocked that a 28 year old man is allowed to walk around a neighborhood armed and his self proclaimed title of neighborhood watch captain supposedly makes this alright.  A young man is now dead (I personally do not believe the self defense story). If Zimmerman was afraid for his life why the h3!! didn't he keep 911 on the line until the police got there? Why didn't the 911 operator keep him on the line anyway? I just don't understand a 911 call that hangs up before the police get there except that Zimmerman did not express any life threatening fear to the 911 operator and seemed to be in no danger at all.  Why didn't he call 911 back the moment he felt threatened?  He didn't hesitate to call about his suspicions why wouldn't he call if things had escalated to the point that he was afraid for his life?

I find it interesting that in order to be a security guard in Florida you have to jump through a bunch of hoops and to be an armed security guard you have to jump through a bunch more.  You have to be licensed and there are several Classes of licensing - for example the following
 ::snipping2::
"Example: A Security Officer without a Class “G” license
may not be assigned to a perimeter gate guard shack where
firearms are kept in a locked gun rack if the officer is issued keys
to the gun rack.
g. While the licensee is on duty his firearm must be
carried in a holster and in plain view. It may be carried
concealed only under the conditions addressed in VIII.c.
Section 493.6115(3), F.S."
 ::snipping2::

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/FORMS/SOH_Handbook_00092_0209.pdf

and from the same link above
 ::snipping2::
VII. USE OF FORCE
a. Licensed security officers are not law enforcement
officers and are not granted any police powers regarding arrest
or use of force.
Section 493,6118(1)(i), F.S.
b. Deadly force may never be used by a security officer
except in self-defense or defense of another from imminent
death or great bodily harm. The use of deadly force to protect
property or to prevent property loss is prohibited by law.
Section 776.012, F.S.
c. Non-deadly force may be used by a security officer to
the extent necessary for self-defense or defense of another
against the use of unlawful force or to prevent or terminate
trespass or “interference’’ with property the security officer has a
legal duty to protect.
Section 776.031, F.S.
d. Security officers in the employ of, or contracted with,
retail establishments, who have probable cause to believe that
retail theft has occurred, have specific statutory authority to
detain shoplifting suspects until law enforcement can respond to
make an arrest. Law enforcement must be called to the scene
immediately.
Section 812.015(3)(a), F.S.
e. Firing a warning shot for any reason, including an
attempt to stop a person suspected of the commission of a crime,
is prohibited.
Sections 776.012 and 493.6118(1)(f), F.S.
 ::snipping2::

I hope this post isn't too long and apologize if it is but I just wanted to point out all the regulations that apply to professional security and police officers and wonder why someone like Zimmerman can voluntarily do all of those things without licensing or consequence.  IMO he is nothing more than a self appointed vigilante who believes he can take the law in his own hands and get away with it. IMO he is getting away with it so far!!!



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 04, 2012, 03:37:44 PM
George Zimmerman has hired attorney Hal Uhrig, stations reported tonight. The name will be familiar to people who followed the Casey Anthony coverage, because Uhrig offered analysis for Fox-owned WOFL-Channel 35.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/04/Casey-Anthony-Legal-Analyst-Zimmerman-Attorney

..and from comments:-
There is a glaring statement below those who speak.  ZIMMERMAN PASSED THE VOICE STRESS TEST.     What????  Haven't we been hearing for days that experts brought in (by a newspaper) to analize the screams for help say that is not Zimmerman??????  Who the hell are these hacks that are so called "experts"?????  I would not be suprised to find out that the lamestream media has perpatrated one more LIE to frame


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/04/Casey-Anthony-Legal-Analyst-Zimmerman-Attorney


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 04, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Hi Monkeys!
Just wanted to express my thoughts about this case and Thank God I can come here to do it  I am shocked that a 28 year old man is allowed to walk around a neighborhood armed and his self proclaimed title of neighborhood watch captain supposedly makes this alright.  A young man is now dead (I personally do not believe the self defense story). If Zimmerman was afraid for his life why the h3!! didn't he keep 911 on the line until the police got there? Why didn't the 911 operator keep him on the line anyway? I just don't understand a 911 call that hangs up before the police get there except that Zimmerman did not express any life threatening fear to the 911 operator and seemed to be in no danger at all.  Why didn't he call 911 back the moment he felt threatened?  He didn't hesitate to call about his suspicions why wouldn't he call if things had escalated to the point that he was afraid for his life?

I find it interesting that in order to be a security guard in Florida you have to jump through a bunch of hoops and to be an armed security guard you have to jump through a bunch more.  You have to be licensed and there are several Classes of licensing - for example the following
 ::snipping2::
"Example: A Security Officer without a Class “G” license
may not be assigned to a perimeter gate guard shack where
firearms are kept in a locked gun rack if the officer is issued keys
to the gun rack.
g. While the licensee is on duty his firearm must be
carried in a holster and in plain view. It may be carried
concealed only under the conditions addressed in VIII.c.
Section 493.6115(3), F.S."
 ::snipping2::

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/FORMS/SOH_Handbook_00092_0209.pdf

and from the same link above
 ::snipping2::
VII. USE OF FORCE
a. Licensed security officers are not law enforcement
officers and are not granted any police powers regarding arrest
or use of force.
Section 493,6118(1)(i), F.S.
b. Deadly force may never be used by a security officer
except in self-defense or defense of another from imminent
death or great bodily harm. The use of deadly force to protect
property or to prevent property loss is prohibited by law.
Section 776.012, F.S.
c. Non-deadly force may be used by a security officer to
the extent necessary for self-defense or defense of another
against the use of unlawful force or to prevent or terminate
trespass or “interference’’ with property the security officer has a
legal duty to protect.
Section 776.031, F.S.
d. Security officers in the employ of, or contracted with,
retail establishments, who have probable cause to believe that
retail theft has occurred, have specific statutory authority to
detain shoplifting suspects until law enforcement can respond to
make an arrest. Law enforcement must be called to the scene
immediately.
Section 812.015(3)(a), F.S.
e. Firing a warning shot for any reason, including an
attempt to stop a person suspected of the commission of a crime,
is prohibited.
Sections 776.012 and 493.6118(1)(f), F.S.
 ::snipping2::

I hope this post isn't too long and apologize if it is but I just wanted to point out all the regulations that apply to professional security and police officers and wonder why someone like Zimmerman can voluntarily do all of those things without licensing or consequence.  IMO he is nothing more than a self appointed vigilante who believes he can take the law in his own hands and get away with it. IMO he is getting away with it so far!!!



hi, He had the right to carry around a gun because he has a concealed carry permit.

The Full 911 call George made is 4 minutes & 12 seconds.

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-gp8mrdw



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 04, 2012, 07:37:34 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0404/George-Zimmerman-911-call-what-the-fallout-is-from-botched-editing
George Zimmerman 911 call: what the fallout is from botched editing
April 4, 2012



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 04, 2012, 08:24:52 PM
Blitzer on CNN using more scientific audio equipment: Zimmerman said "F_ _ g cold" not coon.
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2868257/posts


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 04, 2012, 09:34:40 PM
 Talking with friends at dinner....we have burnout on this case because the media has over saturated the news with this case and not with all correct news.   


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 04, 2012, 10:15:27 PM
http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/did-trayvon-martin-referee-school-fights



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 04, 2012, 10:19:28 PM
Blitzer on CNN using more scientific audio equipment: Zimmerman said "F_ _ g cold" not coon.
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2868257/posts

What's sad is I think the activists wanted it to say "coon."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 04, 2012, 10:46:06 PM


SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - A decision could come in the next few days on George Zimmerman's fate. The state prosecutor is close to finishing up with her investigation.
 
Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin on Feb. 26 in a Sanford gated community. Zimmerman claims Martin physically attacked him after Zimmerman questioned why he was in the neighborhood. The two clashed in circumstances that remain unclear, which led to Zimmerman shooting the unarmed Martin, killing him. Though he was taken into police custody that night, he was never formally arrested and has not been charged with any crime.
The case has sparked outrage in central Florida and across the country.
 
The grand jury is just days away from convening and everyone wants to know what will happen to George Zimmerman? What will happen after the decision comes down?
 
Some are more optimistic than others. "I have all the faith in the city there will be no violence," said Sanford resident Hank Dieckhaus.
 
But still others wonder if there will be fights? Will there be riots? Or will there be a sudden calm.?
 
Sanford is a time bomb but Mayor Jeff Triplett says he is not worried…yet, "That's the concern you really don't know. It's really truly out of our hands now. We have done everything we could to get here."
 
And that everything means a contingency plan or two. City sources tell FOX 35 that the Seminole County Sheriff's Office and Sanford Police Department have put some of their staff on stand-by and the emergency operations center is ready to activate when and if they need it. A half a dozen public information officers are already in place and both Sanford and Seminole county fire are preparing.
 
Last week, Seminole County Fire Chief's met with the Department of Justice to figure out what to do if the city comes unhinged. The jails are ready if there is an arrest and the courthouse has also made its plans to keep its staff and its visitors safe. That means dozens of deputies on duty.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/040412-george-zimmerman-decision-coming-soon
 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 04, 2012, 10:47:42 PM
Blitzer on CNN using more scientific audio equipment: Zimmerman said "F_ _ g cold" not coon.
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2868257/posts

What's sad is I think the activists wanted it to say "coon."


 ::rhino::  ...and the media had the tape how long?? Yet decided to leave that inflamatory word out here.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 05, 2012, 03:28:37 AM
http://www.wagist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/map_1000.jpg

I hope the link works.

Looking at the map, and correct me if I'm wrong, but one can see the location from where George Zimmerman finished his 911 call and the path back to his pick up.  If F on the map is where the murder took place does it seem like George went way off the path back to his truck?  In the same direction that Trayvon would have been walking to get back home?

If I'm right this is further evidence that George Zimmerman was in pursuit of Trayvon and remained so even after the 911 operator told him not to.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 05, 2012, 12:29:38 PM
http://www.wagist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/map_1000.jpg

I hope the link works.

Looking at the map, and correct me if I'm wrong, but one can see the location from where George Zimmerman finished his 911 call and the path back to his pick up.  If F on the map is where the murder took place does it seem like George went way off the path back to his truck?  In the same direction that Trayvon would have been walking to get back home?

If I'm right this is further evidence that George Zimmerman was in pursuit of Trayvon and remained so even after the 911 operator told him not to.



Hi Amys Sister,

Thank-you for the map.  Websleuths.com also asked questions (a few days ago),
a WS sleuth, posted, a very detailed map on their forum.  I was tempted to bring the link over here,(they are a little stingy), I decided not to. The WS poster even detailed the timing of the phone calls, map, including the trip to the station, it was impressive.

A Florida Grand Jury is scheculed to meet this coming Tuesday, I think it will be interesting.

I wonder if GZ had a flash light or an orange vest, for night parole?  I realize he was not on
official duty, on the evening in question.  He would have been better suited for following someone, if he had a flashlight and some official vest.   ::MonkeyTongue::

His broken nose is another question I have...:)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 05, 2012, 12:55:04 PM
It wouldn't have been very dark at 7 something in Florida would it?

I read that Trayvon's  parents were suing the homeowners association because of GZ's actions...was GZ self appointed? Did anyone on the HO board know that he carried a concealed weapon?   I am guessing that Barney Fife GZ appointed himself but I don't know that for sure.

Still waiting for all the facts about this case to come out...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 05, 2012, 02:00:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQRUzOFbUFk

Trayvon Martin case: HOA could be held accountable

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 05, 2012, 02:16:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiYIxuRFiHM

Atty.: Civil Lawsuit Likely in Martin Shooting

GZ could also turn around and sue HOA.   ::MonkeyEek::   This is getting hairy.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 05, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
Three-page transcript

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/04/05/exclusive-george-zimmermans-father-defends-son-trayvon-martin-shooting

Exclusive: George Zimmerman's father defends son in Trayvon Martin shooting
Published April 04, 2012 | Hannity | Sean Hannity
Special Guests: Robert Zimmerman, attorneys Craig Sooner and Hal Uhrig

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," April 4, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 05, 2012, 04:00:23 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/05/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

Lawyers: Zimmerman whispered 'punks' before shooting

Trayvon Martin By the CNN Wire Staff


updated 3:37 PM EDT, Thu April 5, 2012

 ::MonkeySlide:: FINALLY!!  The word is punks! I believe this is GZ word.  IMO


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 05, 2012, 06:39:56 PM
I find it odd that that one expert Tom, said it was not GZ screaming for help, but yet, he admits that GZ said the word "punks".



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 05, 2012, 06:40:14 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-05/news/os-george-zimmerman-fliers-20120405_1_sherman-ware-justin-collison-robert-zimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 05, 2012, 06:42:55 PM
And I also find it odd that Tracy Martin tells three different versions of what LE told him the night of the shooting.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 05, 2012, 08:36:10 PM
I find it odd that that one expert Tom, said it was not GZ screaming for help, but yet, he admits that GZ said the word "punks".



Good evening Monkey's,

Iluvmua,

I enjoyed NillySilly's comment, so much, I bought it over. :)

http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1401223#post1401223

Nillysilly  Post 991

I swear, there is no way I could hear that word as "punks". Not unless someone had a Ricky Ricardo type accent that pronounces "uh" as "oo". But what do I know -- I'm not an expert (and certainly not a chemist!)

 ::monkeywine2:: C
Cheers to Nilly Silly


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 05, 2012, 10:36:20 PM
As I understand it, in the latest enhancement of the audio by CNN of the tape, it is heard, "f--g cold"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOt1wEDy0SI&feature=player_embedded

Zimmerman's 911 call: Audio enhanced again
Published on Apr 4, 2012 by CNN

Did George Zimmerman use a racial slur in his 911 call? CNN enhanced the audio for clearer results.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 05, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Some-Hispanics-want-to-tell-more-about-background-3459211.php

Some Hispanics want to tell more about background
Updated 10:17 p.m., Thursday, April 5, 2012

WASHINGTON (AP) — A majority of Hispanics prefer to identify themselves according to their families' countries of origin, rather than by the government's suggested terms "Hispanic" or "Latino," Pew Hispanic Center reported Wednesday.
 
The description preferred by 51 percent of Hispanics is Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban or other culture they are tied to through family or ancestry. About a quarter surveyed said they identify as Latino or Hispanic first and a fifth said they tend to say American, according to Pew's survey. About 50 million people in the U.S. are Hispanic.
 
Although Latinos have long maintained they are not a monolithic group, the complexity of Hispanic identity has drawn renewed interest amid the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, by George Zimmerman, whose father is white and mother is Hispanic, of Peruvian ancestry.
 
Police and early media reports described Zimmerman as white, but his father has defended his son against allegations of racial profiling by describing him as a "Spanish-speaking minority."
 
Whites, blacks and Asian Americans are all considered a racial group. Hispanics are an ethnic group, which means although they share a common language, culture and heritage, they do not share a common race. They can be black, white, Asian, American Indian, or descended from original peoples of a place colonized by Spain and a few others.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Some-Hispanics-want-to-tell-more-about-background-3459211.php#ixzz1rEASzNib


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 06, 2012, 09:48:57 AM
Also heard yesterday that a voice specialist said that GZ was saying.  Fr@@@ing punk...



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 06, 2012, 12:02:49 PM
Hello Monkey's,

Wonder if GZ was riding around on the grounds, with a six-pack of 'liquid courage'?

He was appointed to be the King of the Hill, he felt entitled to be master of the domain, IMO.

The wrong beverage and a weapon, is the kiss of death. :(

IMO. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 06, 2012, 12:41:20 PM
As I understand it, in the latest enhancement of the audio by CNN of the tape, it is heard, "f--g cold"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOt1wEDy0SI&feature=player_embedded

Zimmerman's 911 call: Audio enhanced again
Published on Apr 4, 2012 by CNN

Did George Zimmerman use a racial slur in his 911 call? CNN enhanced the audio for clearer results.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2125856/Trayvon-Martin-case-Neighbourhood-watchman-did-NOT-utter-racial-slur-shooting-black-teen.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/324776/20120406/cold-coon-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-911-racial.htm



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 06, 2012, 12:47:30 PM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/04/06/zimmerman-family-asks-for-donations.html

Read it at NBC Miami
April 6, 2012 11:41 AM




 Zimmerman Family Asks for Donations


The man who shot Trayvon Martin has been in hiding since the story made national news. Now, George Zimmerman’s family is setting up a website, www.zimmermandefense.com, to raise money for “their living expenses and for his defense,” the family’s attorneys said in a statement Friday. Zimmerman has said that his shooting of the unarmed 17-year-old Martin was in self-defense, and the neighborhood watch captain has yet to be charged with a crime. The website was not live as of Friday morning.

 ::justice2NJ::


ME:

 ::MonkeyEek::  I was not able to access the ZD link, maybe it is in operation now.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 06, 2012, 12:51:45 PM
Also heard yesterday that a voice specialist said that GZ was saying.  Fr@@@ing punk...



That's correct, cookie.  Here's an article about it--

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/249235/250/George-Zimmeman-lawyers-punks-whispered-not-racial-slur-before-Trayvon-Martin-shooting

George Zimmeman lawyers: ''punks'' whispered, not racial slur, before Trayvon Martin shooting
9:13 AM, Apr 6, 2012
Written by
CNN

Sanford, Florida (CNN) -- George Zimmerman told his lawyers that he whispered "punks," not a racial slur, in the moments before he shot Trayvon Martin, his attorneys told CNN on Thursday.
 
Some people interpreted the police recording of Zimmerman's call to 911 as evidence the fatal shooting was racially motivated.
 
Zimmerman attorneys Hal Ulrig and Craig Sonner told CNN their client told them that he said, "f---ing punks."
 
Forensic audio expert Tom Owen, who analyzed 911 recordings, agreed the garbled word that raised controversy was "punks," not the racial slur some people said they heard.
 ::snipping2::
 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 06, 2012, 12:55:48 PM
But 'punks' doesn't inflame the masses like the other word did.  So, naturally, the media and 'activists' aren't going to man-up to being wrong.  That would take integrity and honor.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 06, 2012, 01:22:25 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/06/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-blotter-idUS214913966420120406

Police Gave George Zimmerman Voice Stress Test
Fri Apr 6, 2012 1:07am EDT

 ::snipping2::
A voice stress test is like a polygraph, but instead of measuring heart rate and blood pressure, it looks for changes in an individual's voice patterns that are thought to suggest psychological stress. With the help of software, investigators record a suspect answering baseline questions and then compare them to answers about the case.

This technology is not unique to Sanford. The National Institute for Truth Verification, a manufacturer of the technology, claims that over 1,800 local, state and federal law enforcement agencies use their product. They also claim to have trained U.S. Military personnel.

Expert opinion is mixed, but a study commissioned by the Justice Department suggests that a voice stress test is "no better than flipping a coin." For this reason, like its cousin the polygraph, George Zimmerman's voice stress test probably wouldn't be admissible at trial. However, it can still be used in the investigatory phase.

George Zimmerman's voice stress test came out clean, according to attorney Hal Uhrig. If the Sanford Police Department is willing to spend more than $10,000 on the product, then it probably trusts its results. And those results probably corroborated what officers initially saw at the scene.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 06, 2012, 01:55:37 PM
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/George-Zimmerman-Getting-Website-for-Defense-in-Trayvon-Martin-Shooting-146418425.html

George Zimmerman Getting Website for Defense in Trayvon Martin Shooting
Website to help Sanford shooter with living expenses and defense: Attorneys

"George Zimmerman's family has setup a website for anyone who would like help with George and his family with their living expenses and for his defense," attorneys Hal Uhrig and Craig Sonner said in a statement obtained by NBC News.

 ::snipping2::
 ::justice2NJ::

If this was not so tragic it was be amusing, asking for Attn. funds and living expenses.

IMO





Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 06, 2012, 08:25:46 PM
NBC News has fired the producer it says was responsible for creating the deceptive audio recording of George Zimmerman communicating with a 9-1-1 operator, according to the New York Times.
 
The network is still refusing to release the name of the producer, although according to Times reporter Brian Stelter, the producer is based in Miami and has worked there for a number of years. According to Stelter's network sources, NBC is still insisting the deceptive edit was not done deliberatiely. The network has refused to say how exactly someone could accidentally have edited the tape to make Zimmerman appear to be racially motivated:


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2012/04/06/breaking-nbc-fires-producer-who-created-false-zimmerman-audio#ixzz1rJEYL8ui


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 06, 2012, 11:45:53 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/06/voice-forensics-experts-cast-doubt-on-orlando-sentinel-analysis-of-trayvon-martin-911-tape/2/
Voice forensics experts cast doubt on Orlando Sentinel analysis of Trayvon Martin 911 tape
April 6, 2012

(2 pg. article)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 07, 2012, 02:44:44 AM
http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2012/04/03/Man-78-recounts-assault-by-6-youths-in-E-Toledo.html

Man, 78, recounts assault by 6 youths in E. Toledo

Quote
"Why you picking on me?" Mr. Watts recalled. "Remember Trayvon. Why you picking on me?"

 ::snipping2::

While Mr. Watts was down the boys kicked him, over and over, shouting, "[Get] that white [man]. This is for Trayvon ... Trayvon lives, white [man]. Kill that white [man]," according to a police report.

For investigators, it's unclear whether the assault was motivated by an attempt to avenge the Martin youth's death or whether Mr. Watts' "Remember Trayvon" message was misinterpreted as threatening or racist.
 

Even if this 78 yr old had said something ugly, there is never a reason for a gang of young people to beat an elderly person. 

This whole situation is absolutely out of hand. 
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sharon on April 07, 2012, 08:39:40 AM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sns-rt-us-usa-florida-shootingbre8350d5-20120406,0,7290537.story

"Shaken Baby Syndrome" used in defense of Trayvon Martin's killer

SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - "Shaken Baby Syndrome" was cited on Friday in the defense of George Zimmerman, the Sanford, Florida, man who shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, in a case that has sparked a widespread public outcry.

Hal Uhrig, a lawyer and formerGainesville, Florida, police officer who recently joined Zimmerman's defense team, cited in a TV interview, "We're familiar with the shaken baby syndrome."

"You shake a baby, the brain shakes around inside the skull."

His point was that Zimmerman may have suffered injuries similar to shaken baby syndrome.

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 07, 2012, 11:55:18 AM
NBC Fires Producer of Edited, Doctored and Misleading George Zimmerman 9-11 Tape … Misleading, IT WAS A LIE!

SHAMEFUL … MISLEADING? WHAT NBC PUT FORTH WAS A FALSEHOOD AND A LIE … WHEN MEDIA BIAS TURNS INTO A FLAT OUT MISREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS AND REPORTS A LIE …

Posted April 7, 2012 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/04/07/nbc-fires-producer-of-edited-doctored-and-misleading-george-zimmerman-9-11-tape-misleading-it-was-a-lie/



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 07, 2012, 11:57:32 AM
Viewers!!! What about an NBC apology to George Zimmerman for attempting to further the fabrication that Trayvon Martin’s tragic death was racially motivated.

Janet

++++++

NBC issues apology for edited Zimmerman 911 call
Published April 03, 2012


“During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made in the production process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers,” the network said in a statement cited by The Washington Post.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/nbc-issues-apology-edited-zimmerman-11-call/



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 07, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
Viewers!!! What about an NBC apology to George Zimmerman for attempting to further the fabrication that Trayvon Martin’s tragic death was racially motivated.

Janet

++++++

NBC issues apology for edited Zimmerman 911 call
Published April 03, 2012


“During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made in the production process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers,” the network said in a statement cited by The Washington Post.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/nbc-issues-apology-edited-zimmerman-11-call/



Janet,

I absolutely agree with you.

IMO...

NBC should sent an official apology to GZ  in a Easter Basket. :)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 07, 2012, 12:56:21 PM
Viewers!!! What about an NBC apology to George Zimmerman for attempting to further the fabrication that Trayvon Martin’s tragic death was racially motivated.

Janet

++++++

NBC issues apology for edited Zimmerman 911 call
Published April 03, 2012


“During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made in the production process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to our viewers,” the network said in a statement cited by The Washington Post.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/nbc-issues-apology-edited-zimmerman-11-call/



Janet,

I absolutely agree with you.

IMO...

NBC should sent an official apology to GZ  in a Easter Basket. :)

 ::rhino::

Filled with Purdy's assorted creams.

Janet


Janet



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 07, 2012, 12:57:55 PM
NBC issues apology for edited Zimmerman 911 call
Published April 03, 2012


<snipped>

NBC's "Today" show ran the edited audio of Zimmerman's phone call to a police dispatcher, seeming to show Zimmerman saying, "This guy looks like he's up to no good … he looks black."

A transcript of the complete 911 call shows that Zimmerman said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."

The 911 officer responded saying, "OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?"

"He looks black," Zimmerman said.

The abridged conversation between Zimmerman and the dispatcher that NBC ran on March 27 has been blasted by media watchdog groups as misleading. Critics have said the edited version was made to suggest that Zimmerman targeted Martin because he was black -- an accusation by many that is still under investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/nbc-issues-apology-edited-zimmerman-11-call/



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 07, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
NBC Fires Producer of Edited, Doctored and Misleading George Zimmerman 9-11 Tape … Misleading, IT WAS A LIE!

SHAMEFUL … MISLEADING? WHAT NBC PUT FORTH WAS A FALSEHOOD AND A LIE … WHEN MEDIA BIAS TURNS INTO A FLAT OUT MISREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS AND REPORTS A LIE …

Posted April 7, 2012 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/04/07/nbc-fires-producer-of-edited-doctored-and-misleading-george-zimmerman-9-11-tape-misleading-it-was-a-lie/




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 07, 2012, 01:23:34 PM
Yes, it was an unfair portrayal of George, but the public should recieve an apology as well.  The last thing we need is the media fanning the flames of hatred and trying to create racism where there is none. 

Besides, it distracts from the facts of the case and could cripple Trayvon's death investigation.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sailcat on April 07, 2012, 10:34:20 PM
OK, here's what I don't understand. Despite all the hoopla and grandstanding on all sides, the facts to me are these: Trayvon Martin had every bit as much right to be where he was as George Zimmerman did. He was minding his own business in a place where he was supposed to be. He was followed and reported to the police simply because GZ thought he looked "suspicious." At some point there was a confrontation and the young unarmed man was shot and killed by an older man who supposedly knew all about surveillance, law enforcement procedures, self-defense, and the proper use of firearms. I don't understand how this can be justifiable homicide under any circumstances. What am I missing?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 08, 2012, 12:36:35 AM
Is the drive by media photoshopping Jorge Zimmerman?
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2869470/posts

There are pictures at link but not able to post them, sorry.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 08, 2012, 05:34:37 AM
Is the drive by media photoshopping Jorge Zimmerman?
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2869470/posts

There are pictures at link but not able to post them, sorry.

Note the missing ear!  Having a lighter photo is one thing, but his shirt is a totally different color and the top of his ear is completely gone.   ?????

(http://i40.tinypic.com/34erser.jpg)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 09, 2012, 10:23:42 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46989104

NC motorcycle clubs ride for Trayvon Martin

 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 09, 2012, 12:03:47 PM
BREAKING: State Attorney decides no use of Grand Jury in Trayvon Martin shooting death investigation. Details coming on BN9.com

https://www.facebook.com/bn9fans


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 09, 2012, 12:57:39 PM
ANGELA B. COREY
STATE ATTORNEY
***MEDIA UPDATE***
For Immediate Release April 9, 2012
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – State Attorney Angela Corey has decided not to use a Grand Jury in the Trayvon Martin shooting death investigation.
The decision should not be considered a factor in the final determination of the case. The Grand Jury, set to convene on April 10, 2012, was previously scheduled by the former prosecutor.
Ms. Corey was appointed as the Special Prosecutor on March 22, 2012, by Governor Rick Scott. From the moment she was assigned, Ms. Corey noted she may not need a Grand Jury.
At this time, the investigation continues and there will be no further comment from this office. You will be notified of any new developments via email.
###

http://baynews9.com/content/dam/news/static/cfnews13/documents/trayvon-martin-no-grand-jury-0409.pdf


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 09, 2012, 03:04:06 PM
SANFORD --
The case of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's death in Sanford has reached the United Nations.
 
Navi Pillay, the U.N.'s human rights chief, has called for the organization to launch an immediate investigation into the case.
 
The Florida Civil Rights Association said it supports the recent call for action, saying the involvement of the U.N. would help prevent violence they said stems from racial profiling in other parts of the world as well.
 
Trayvon Martin was shot and killed Feb. 26 by George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford.
 
Zimmerman has claimed he was acting in self-defense after the teen attacked him.
 
Still, thousands of activists have flocked to Sanford over the last month for numerous rallies calling for Zimmerman's arrest.

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/8/trayvon_martin_un_in


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 09, 2012, 03:13:37 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-case-will-not-go-to-grand-jury/2012/04/09/gIQABDZG6S_story.html

George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin case will not go to grand jury
By Elizabeth Flock, Monday, April 9, 12:23 PM

 ::snipping2::
The decision now rests with Corey, who would provide no further comment. Corey has two choices left, according to CNN: File charges or drop the case.

Corey previously told CNN she has never used a grand jury to decide on charges in a justifiable homicide case.

“We do a thorough investigation. We make that decision ourselves,” she told the network.

Under Florida law, only first-degree murder cases must be presented before a grand jury.
 ::snipping2::
Sanford police did not initially charge Zimmerman because of Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law, which allows someone to use deadly force in the face of danger.

Corey has handled hundreds of homicide cases involving the justifiable use of deadly force, which makes her an apt prosecutor for the case, according to the AP.

She is also known for her tough tactics, in the past locking up criminals for long sentences and making it hard to negotiate plea bargains.

“It would be fair to say that her office, when faced with the choice, files as many counts and charges as they believe they can prove,” A. Russell Smith, a past president of the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys and friend of Corey’s, told the AP. “[That] tends to make their prosecutions more complex and expose defendants to substantially more sentences.”


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 09, 2012, 03:25:47 PM
Video at link

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46991902/ns/today-today_news/

Lawyers: Unless he's charged, George Zimmerman will speak out
A special prosecutor is set to present her findings from the Trayvon Martin investigation
By Scott Stump
TODAY.com contributor
updated 4/9/2012 9:13:46 AM ET
 
A special prosecutor is set to present her findings from the investigation into the Trayvon Martin shooting as early as Tuesday.

Unless those findings don't result in a charge, George Zimmerman is keeping quiet.

“As soon as he is either dismissed, or they decide not to charge him, or he is eventually vindicated, he’ll come out,’’ said attorney Hal Uhrig, who is defending Zimmerman along with Craig Sonner. “If they charge him, then you’re not going to hear from him until it’s over.’’
Video: Zimmerman legal team says he is ‘distraught’ (on this page)
Uhrig and Sonner expect to meet with Zimmerman this week. The neighborhood watch volunteer, who shot 17-year-old Martin in what he claims was self-defense, has been in hiding because of threats against his life.

Zimmerman's quick release by the Sanford police and the state attorney — just seven hours and 50 minutes after the shooting — has come under scrutiny. Within a week, the state attorney had ruled that Zimmerman feared for his life and should not be charged.
Prosecutor: No grand jury for Trayvon Martin case
Experts told NBC News that they believe that timetable appears unusually fast. An autopsy and toxicology report, one of the standards in investigating a fatal shooting, could not have been completed in that short period of time, Kerry Sanders reported Monday.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 09, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Even if GZ is not arrested, he is never going to have any kind of life for years to come. He will constantly be looking over his shoulder...IMO


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 09, 2012, 03:58:38 PM
Even if GZ is not arrested, he is never going to have any kind of life for years to come. He will constantly be looking over his shoulder...IMO


 ::rhino::

Also, I think that the prosecutor will bring charges against him--but not first-degree murder.  IIRC, she files many counts and charges as she thinks that she can prove in court. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sharon on April 09, 2012, 04:00:27 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/08/2738118/what-trayvon-martins-social-media.html

What Trayvon Martin’s tweets say about him
 
While online critics say Trayvon Martin’s digital footprint reveals a violent streak, his Twitter feed shows that he was a typical teen.

By Deborah Acosta
dacosta@MiamiHerald.com

Trayvon Martin liked girls, hated high school and was planning for college.

He loved rap music and enjoyed cracking jokes on Twitter about street culture.

The 17-year-old high school junior known as “Slimm” tweeted thousands of times over a period of months. His last 140-character message came just two days before he was gunned down in a gated townhouse community in Sanford.

But in the racially divisive media hype that has followed the teenager’s controversial killing, pages of nonsensical Twitter updates written back when Trayvon’s biggest concerns were getting a call back from a girl are now being examined and scrutinized by bloggers around the nation.

Critics call attention to his tattoos, an empty marijuana bag found in his school book bag, and a photo that purports to show him with gold teeth — “grills,” in hip-hop parlance — to show that he had a violent nature and that his family deliberately tried to keep this image from the public. His email accounts were hacked by white supremacists and his tweets were exposed by the conservative website The Daily Caller.

But friends say Trayvon wasn’t into violence.

“When I heard about the tragedy and the initial story, I knew it wasn’t true,” said Ricaysha Milton, 17, who knew Trayvon from Carol City High School, and corresponded with him over Twitter. “Trayvon is the ‘walk away’ type of guy. He’d rather walk away than fight.’’

 ::snipping2:: ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 09, 2012, 04:02:29 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-matin-family-target-homeowners-association-lawsuit-neighborhood-watch-article-1.1058522

Trayvon Martin family could target homeowners association with lawsuit over its neighborhood watch
The Retreat at Twin Lakes could be sued should George Zimmerman be protected by ‘Stand Your Ground’ law
Monday, April 9, 2012, 6:35 AM

SANFORD, Fla. — If Trayvon Martin’s family sues over his death, they might not target George Zimmerman but instead the homeowners association of the neighborhood where the shooting happened and Zimmerman lived.
 
That’s because if Zimmerman’s claim that he shot the unarmed 17-year-old in self-defense is upheld by prosecutors, a judge or a jury, Florida’s so-called stand your ground law would protect him from a lawsuit. But his clearance or acquittal wouldn’t stop Martin’s parents from suing The Retreat at Twin Lakes homeowners association — and its insurance policies and assets would make it a much more lucrative target than Zimmerman, even if he is eventually convicted of a crime.
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-matin-family-target-homeowners-association-lawsuit-neighborhood-watch-article-1.1058522#ixzz1rZhqIR73


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 09, 2012, 04:17:25 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/09/2739151/trayvon-martin-case.html

Posted on Monday, 04.09.12
Prosecutor: No grand jury

 ::snipping2::
In Florida, the decision on whether to indict someone in capital cases must be made by a grand jury. In all lesser cases the decision to file charges are routinely made by prosecutors. But in highly controversial or difficult cases, prosecutors often defer to a grand jury, leaving the politically charged decision to a panel of citizens

Corey’s office pointed out that the decision not to take the case to a grand jury should not be taken as an indication of which way she’s going to decide.

“The decision should not be considered a factor in the final determination of the case,” her office said in a release.

Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Trayvon’s parents, issued a statement after Corey’s decision Monday.

“We are not surprised by this announcement and, in fact, are hopeful that a decision will be reached very soon to arrest George Zimmerman and give Trayvon Martin's family the simple justice they have been seeking all along,” Crump said.

 ::snipping2::
 
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/09/2739151/trayvon-martin-case.html#storylink=cpy


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 09, 2012, 04:56:53 PM
SANFORD, Fla. —


Two sources told WFTV on Monday that gunman George Zimmerman could be arrested this week, and that a Grand Jury will not meet on Tuesday.

Zimmerman has been in hiding because of threats, after he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. He claims he shot Martin in self-defense.

Jacksonville State Attorney Angela Corey has the sole authority to determine whether Zimmerman will be charged for killing Martin.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/lawyers-gunman-george-zimmerman-say-hell-speak-out/nMTkN/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 09, 2012, 05:16:38 PM
OK, here's what I don't understand. Despite all the hoopla and grandstanding on all sides, the facts to me are these: Trayvon Martin had every bit as much right to be where he was as George Zimmerman did. He was minding his own business in a place where he was supposed to be. He was followed and reported to the police simply because GZ thought he looked "suspicious." At some point there was a confrontation and the young unarmed man was shot and killed by an older man who supposedly knew all about surveillance, law enforcement procedures, self-defense, and the proper use of firearms. I don't understand how this can be justifiable homicide under any circumstances. What am I missing?

I agree with what you are saying.  My question is pretty simple:  Did GZ stop chasing him once he called the police and they told him to stop?  (Now it gets complicated.) If so, then what happened AFTER that; was HE then attacked?  Did it turn into a self-defense case?  If he didn't stop, then he is guilty IMO.  If people make their decisions because of all of the hoopla then I'm going to be angry.  Look at the evidence on this case like ANY other.  If they didn't do this from the beginning then shame on them.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 09, 2012, 06:12:30 PM
Tonight: The Trayvon Martin Case


What's next in the Trayvon Martin case? Jeff Ashton, Alan Dershowitz, Roy Black and more break it down. Also, Lewis Black.

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2012, 06:55:58 PM
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/09/11104813-george-zimmerman-takes-to-web-to-raise-money-for-legal-costs-lawyers-confirm?lite
George Zimmerman takes to Web to raise money for legal costs, lawyers confirm
April 9, 2012

Updated at 6:29 p.m. ET: George Zimmerman, the Florida man who claims he shot and killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense, has set up a personal website to collect money for his legal expenses, his attorneys told NBC News on Monday.

Several sites purporting to raise money for Zimmerman, 28, have popped up since he shot Martin, 17, on Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla., but "I cannot attest to the validity of these other websites," Zimmerman writes on therealgeorgezimmerman.com.

Attorneys confirmed to NBC News that the site, which domain records show was created Sunday, is real and is operated by Zimmerman himself. It solicits donations through PayPal with a promise that "any funds provided are used only for living expenses and legal defense, in lieu of my forced inability to maintain employment."

Access to the site was hit or miss as it appeared to be having trouble handling a heavy stream of visitors after msnbc.com's initial report Monday afternoon. It wasn't known whether any of those visitors had used the provided link to make a donation.

As for the case itself, Zimmerman says, "I cannot discuss the details of the event on February 26th" to allow authorities "to proceed with their investigation unhindered."
More...

If you scroll down at the link you can read:  "Here's the full statement from Zimmerman on his website:"
More...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 09, 2012, 07:33:08 PM
In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday, obtained exclusively by The Daily Caller, a family member of George Zimmerman asked the nation’s top law enforcement officer why he has chosen to not arrest members of the New Black Panther Party for their rhetoric — some of which may fit the federal government’s definition of a hate crime — throughout the Trayvon Martin case.
 
The family member believes the reason Holder hasn’t made those arrests is because he, like the members of the New Black Panther Party, is black.
 
“I am writing you to ask you why, when the law of the land is crystal clear, is your office not arresting the New Black Panthers for hate crimes?” the family member wrote to Holder.
 
“The Zimmerman family is in hiding because of the threats that have been made against us, yet the DOJ has maintained an eerie silence on this matter. These threats are very public. If you haven’t been paying attention just do a Google search and you will find plenty. Since when can a group of people in the United States put a bounty on someone’s head, circulate Wanted posters publicly, and still be walking the streets?”
 
The New Black Panthers have issued ultimatums to the Sanford authorities, saying they want Zimmerman arrested “dead or alive.” They have placed a bounty on Zimmerman’s head, and have called for the building of an army of vigilantes to track him down and effect a citizen’s arrest.
 
Most recently, the New Black Panther Party has called for violence.
 
In a conference call recorded over the weekend, the militant group said it planned to “suit up and boot up” and prepare for the next stages of the “race war.”  ::snipping2:: 


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/zimmerman-family-challenges-holder-on-new-black-panthers-says-no-arrests-based-solely-on-your-race/#ixzz1raZF7a9a


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 09, 2012, 07:42:28 PM
Hi Monkey's,

There was puzzle about Mr. Taaffe's son.  Mr.T mentioned again about his son,
today on JVM.


 ::MonkeyAngel::

I believe this may be the son. Why he continues to bring up his son, is just puzzling. 



 ::MonkeyEek:: (to show this may be Mr Frank Taaffe, possible as Francis)

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=Frank&qmi=&qn=Taaffe&qcs=Sanford%2C+FL&focusfirst=1


Possible son of Mr. T
 ::MonkeyEek::
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/orlandosentinel/obituary.aspx?n=william-christopher-taaffe-will&pid=117819577

This is my opinion.  Mr T must want us to know about his son, I will say a Prayer:)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sailcat on April 09, 2012, 07:57:51 PM
OK, here's what I don't understand. Despite all the hoopla and grandstanding on all sides, the facts to me are these: Trayvon Martin had every bit as much right to be where he was as George Zimmerman did. He was minding his own business in a place where he was supposed to be. He was followed and reported to the police simply because GZ thought he looked "suspicious." At some point there was a confrontation and the young unarmed man was shot and killed by an older man who supposedly knew all about surveillance, law enforcement procedures, self-defense, and the proper use of firearms. I don't understand how this can be justifiable homicide under any circumstances. What am I missing?

I agree with what you are saying.  My question is pretty simple:  Did GZ stop chasing him once he called the police and they told him to stop?  (Now it gets complicated.) If so, then what happened AFTER that; was HE then attacked?  Did it turn into a self-defense case?  If he didn't stop, then he is guilty IMO.  If people make their decisions because of all of the hoopla then I'm going to be angry.  Look at the evidence on this case like ANY other.  If they didn't do this from the beginning then shame on them.
Excellent points! I have another question or concern that I don't recall seeing anyone address. If - and it's a big if - Trayvon Martin actually started pummeling George Zimmerman, shouldn't that be considered legal and acceptable under the "Stand Your Ground" law? It looks like if anyone should have felt that his life was being threatened, it was the guy who was being harassed by a fellow with a gun.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2012, 09:34:42 PM
Folks just need to stop trying to make this case into something for their own personal vendetta's.  Violence will not solve anything, and this goes for any parties trying to insert themselves into the case.  JMHO

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/04/heavily_armed_neo-nazis_patrol.php
Armed Neo-Nazis Now Claim To Be Patrolling Sanford, Say They Are "Prepared" for Post-Trayvon Martin Violence UPDATED


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 09, 2012, 10:07:29 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-posts-statement-trayvon-martin-website/story?id=16104918
George Zimmerman Releases Statement, Speaking for First Time About Trayvon Martin Case
April 9, 2012


Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 09, 2012, 11:34:07 PM
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-case-no-grand-jury

George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin case: No grand jury
Charges can still be filed

Posted: 04/09/2012
Last Updated: 5 hours and 29 minutes ago

 ::snipping2::

Prosecutors are trying to unravel what happened the night Martin was killed. Witnesses and attorneys for both sides have offered conflicting accounts. Two prosecutors are working to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to bring charges against Zimmerman, 28.

"We had hoped she had enough evidence without the need to convene a grand jury," said Benjamin Crump, attorney for Martin's family. "The family is trying to have patience and faith through all of this."

Crump said the family is hoping for charges against Zimmerman and an arrest as soon as possible.

"We want a very public trial so the evidence can come out and show people that the justice system works for everybody," he said.

Zimmerman's attorney, Hal Uhrig, texted his reaction to CNN's Martin Savidge: "Not surprised. Don't know what her decision will be. Courageous move on her part."
 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-case-no-grand-jury#ixzz1rbWqO2pP


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 09, 2012, 11:38:25 PM
http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S2574389.shtml?cat=566

Trayvon Martin death won't go to Fla. grand jury
Posted at: 04/09/2012 10:52 PM
By: Associate Press | WHEC.com

There's still no word on whether George Zimmerman will be charged in the death of Trayvon Martin -- but if he is, the charge won't be first-degree murder.
 
The special prosecutor who's deciding whether to file charges announced today that she's not going to take the case to a grand jury. That's a step that would only be required in a first-degree murder case.
 
Angela Corey could still charge Zimmerman with a serious felony such as manslaughter, which can carry a lengthy prison sentence.
 
One Florida defense attorney says the decision not to go to a grand jury means Corey won't have to rely on potentially-unpredictable jurors. David Hill says Corey may know that there isn't enough for a first-degree murder charge, but she wants to charge him with something else -- and she now can "maintain control" of that process.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 09, 2012, 11:47:16 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/04/trayvon-martin-no-grand-jury-analyses-follow.html/comment-page-1

Trayvon Martin: no grand jury, analyses follow
CNN, MSNBC, Trayvon Martin, WESH, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on April, 9 2012 12:40 PM

 ::snipping2::
WESH-Channel 2’s Amanda Ober said: “What does this mean? It means Corey herself will decide either to drop the case or to file charges.”
 
Ober added that Corey has to decide if there is enough evidence to charge Zimmerman with a crime.  ”The big challenge here is the lack of eyewitnesses,” Ober said. “George Zimmerman’s attorneys say he is now exercising his right to remain silent, so Corey has not had a chance to hear his side of the story.”
 
The stations and WKMG-Channel 6 also highlighted a student protest that has temporarily closed that Sanford Police Department today. The students are Trayvon Martin supporters.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 10, 2012, 09:27:17 AM
I sure think that I would want to get my side of the story ouy especially if i was innocent..especially in light of all the publicity that this case has gotten..


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 10, 2012, 09:31:27 AM
I sure think that I would want to get my side of the story ouy especially if i was innocent..especially in light of all the publicity that this case has gotten..
Maybe he's taking his attys' advice.  I'd be afraid that anything I said would be used to inflame the masses.  He could be worried about his family's safety as well.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 10, 2012, 09:32:52 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/george-zimmerman-launches-website-asks-donations/nMT7q/
Shots fired at Sanford police car;

Quote
Sanford police said shots were fired into an empty police cruiser parked near the townhome community where Trayvon Martin was shot to death.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 10, 2012, 09:33:43 AM
I sure think that I would want to get my side of the story ouy especially if i was innocent..especially in light of all the publicity that this case has gotten..
Maybe he's taking his attys' advice.  I'd be afraid that anything I said would be used to inflame the masses.  He could be worried about his family's safety as well.


Yes,,I realize those points but it would be hard not to defend myself.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 10, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/george-zimmerman-launches-website-asks-donations/nMT7q/
Shots fired at Sanford police car;

Quote
Sanford police said shots were fired into an empty police cruiser parked near the townhome community where Trayvon Martin was shot to death.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Heard that...perhaps activity around the complex required neighborhood watch in the past?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 10, 2012, 09:46:28 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/040912-protestors-force-closure-of-sanford-police-department
Protestors force closure of Sanford Police Department

Quote
The protesters blocked the entrance Monday morning upon learning that a grand jury would not be convened, prompting the police headquarters to close to the public for the day.
Protesters only left the station after Florida State Attorney Angela Corey talked to them over the phone and gave her assurances that the investigation was continuing.

 

This is outrageous.  Why does LE allow such antics?  Pepper spray them then haul their disrespectful butts off to jail.  There are people in Sanford with legitimate needs for LE services that have nothing to do with Martin/Zimmerman.  What about those persons?  Are their lives to be put on hold because protesters want to hold a police station hostage?  The State Atty should never have caved to them.   
 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 10, 2012, 09:55:00 AM

Trayvon Martin's family attorney blasts new Zimmerman website


7:53 a.m. EST, April 10, 2012|By Kevin P. Connolly, Orlando Sentinel



An attorney for Trayvon Martin's family blasted George Zimmerman's new website in an appearance with Trayvon's mother on Good Morning America.

 Shooter Zimmerman said in the website that "I was involved in a life altering event which led me to become the subject of intense media coverage" on Feb. 26, referring to the fatal shooting of Trayvon   ::snipping2:: 

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-10/news/os-george-zimmerman-website-trayvon-20120410_1_incident-and-subsequent-media-website-shooter-zimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 10, 2012, 10:29:41 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/040912-protestors-force-closure-of-sanford-police-department
Protestors force closure of Sanford Police Department

Quote
The protesters blocked the entrance Monday morning upon learning that a grand jury would not be convened, prompting the police headquarters to close to the public for the day.
Protesters only left the station after Florida State Attorney Angela Corey talked to them over the phone and gave her assurances that the investigation was continuing.

 

This is outrageous.  Why does LE allow such antics?  Pepper spray them then haul their disrespectful butts off to jail.  There are people in Sanford with legitimate needs for LE services that have nothing to do with Martin/Zimmerman.  What about those persons?  Are their lives to be put on hold because protesters want to hold a police station hostage?  The State Atty should never have caved to them.   
 ::MonkeyMad::

Agreed! I fear that she will be swayed in her decision in order not to upset those who are protesting ...jmo...let the looting and destruction begin if GZ is not arrested to their satisfaction...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 10, 2012, 10:40:34 AM

Trayvon Martin's family attorney blasts new Zimmerman website


7:53 a.m. EST, April 10, 2012|By Kevin P. Connolly, Orlando Sentinel



An attorney for Trayvon Martin's family blasted George Zimmerman's new website in an appearance with Trayvon's mother on Good Morning America.

 Shooter Zimmerman said in the website that "I was involved in a life altering event which led me to become the subject of intense media coverage" on Feb. 26, referring to the fatal shooting of Trayvon   ::snipping2:: 

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-10/news/os-george-zimmerman-website-trayvon-20120410_1_incident-and-subsequent-media-website-shooter-zimmerman

I'm of the opinion that no matter what George Zimmerman does, he's screwed.  If there are no charges laid, his life is still screwed.  I've seen plenty of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Black Panther's, shutting down a police station, threats of violence if charges are not brought.  Is that justice?  Is it a form of lynching?  Where is the legal process?  I don't know if George Zimmerman is guilty or not of anything at this point, because I don't have enough information. I'm very concerned by some of what has been incorrectly reported and then found to be untrue.  People tend to believe the negative and what they've been told first, imo.  This includes the editing of the audio.  I'm not taking either side here, because it pains me greatly to know a young man died.  But what were the circumstances?  We need to know that.  There has been some finely crafted PR, including using young, innocent child pictures of Trayvon, while George Zimmerman's along side it and he looks scruffy.  It has impact and effect. 
So one of Trayvon's attorney blasts George Zimmerman's website.  George Zimmerman has the right to free speech, he has the right to get help for his legal expenses imo.  We haven't heard a lot from George Zimmerman, but look what happens when he does make a statement.  I am very concerned that since Al Sharpton and etal got involved, it brings out the skinheads on the other end.  None of this is good for any one.  People are using this for their own personal agendas. 
What about this?  Wasn't this a "hate" crime?  Where is/was the outrage? 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=718.0
Channon Christian 21, Missing TN - BF Chris Newsom found dead (BODY FOUND)

There is hatred and there is ugliness and racism but we don't have to feed it imo. 





Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 10, 2012, 10:40:37 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/040912-protestors-force-closure-of-sanford-police-department
Protestors force closure of Sanford Police Department

Quote
The protesters blocked the entrance Monday morning upon learning that a grand jury would not be convened, prompting the police headquarters to close to the public for the day.
Protesters only left the station after Florida State Attorney Angela Corey talked to them over the phone and gave her assurances that the investigation was continuing.

 

This is outrageous.  Why does LE allow such antics?  Pepper spray them then haul their disrespectful butts off to jail.  There are people in Sanford with legitimate needs for LE services that have nothing to do with Martin/Zimmerman.  What about those persons?  Are their lives to be put on hold because protesters want to hold a police station hostage?  The State Atty should never have caved to them.   
 ::MonkeyMad::

Agreed! I fear that she will be swayed in her decision in order not to upset those who are protesting ...jmo...let the looting and destruction begin if GZ is not arrested to their satisfaction...

Why is this not considered a crime?  Because they are black?  Well, that's racism!  What the heck?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 10, 2012, 10:43:13 AM
Great post, Muffy.  So true.  I am very concerned. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 10, 2012, 10:45:26 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/040912-protestors-force-closure-of-sanford-police-department
Protestors force closure of Sanford Police Department

Quote
The protesters blocked the entrance Monday morning upon learning that a grand jury would not be convened, prompting the police headquarters to close to the public for the day.
Protesters only left the station after Florida State Attorney Angela Corey talked to them over the phone and gave her assurances that the investigation was continuing.

 

This is outrageous.  Why does LE allow such antics?  Pepper spray them then haul their disrespectful butts off to jail.  There are people in Sanford with legitimate needs for LE services that have nothing to do with Martin/Zimmerman.  What about those persons?  Are their lives to be put on hold because protesters want to hold a police station hostage?  The State Atty should never have caved to them.   
 ::MonkeyMad::

Agreed! I fear that she will be swayed in her decision in order not to upset those who are protesting ...jmo...let the looting and destruction begin if GZ is not arrested to their satisfaction...

Why is this not considered a crime?  Because they are black?  Well, that's racism!  What the heck?

I do need to correct myself...I really don't know that the protestors are of all one particular race.  So scratch that.  Still, if I lived in Sanford I would be LIVID.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 10, 2012, 10:52:15 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/040912-protestors-force-closure-of-sanford-police-department
Protestors force closure of Sanford Police Department

Quote
The protesters blocked the entrance Monday morning upon learning that a grand jury would not be convened, prompting the police headquarters to close to the public for the day.
Protesters only left the station after Florida State Attorney Angela Corey talked to them over the phone and gave her assurances that the investigation was continuing.

 

This is outrageous.  Why does LE allow such antics?  Pepper spray them then haul their disrespectful butts off to jail.  There are people in Sanford with legitimate needs for LE services that have nothing to do with Martin/Zimmerman.  What about those persons?  Are their lives to be put on hold because protesters want to hold a police station hostage?  The State Atty should never have caved to them.   
 ::MonkeyMad::

Agreed! I fear that she will be swayed in her decision in order not to upset those who are protesting ...jmo...let the looting and destruction begin if GZ is not arrested to their satisfaction...

Why is this not considered a crime?  Because they are black?  Well, that's racism!  What the heck?

I do need to correct myself...I really don't know that the protestors are of all one particular race.  So scratch that.  Still, if I lived in Sanford I would be LIVID.

I don't like to see the threat of violence to solve problems.  Changes can be made through peaceful means. JMHO 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 10, 2012, 11:12:27 AM
Great post above Muffers...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 10, 2012, 11:42:35 AM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-10/news/os-george-zimmerman-website-trayvon-20120410_1_incident-and-subsequent-media-website-shooter-zimmerman

There’s been so much media malfeasance in the Trayvon Martin shooting case that it’s hard to keep track of it all.
 
Here’s a roundup of some of the top media misses.
 
EditGate 

NBC selectively edited George Zimmerman’s 911 call to make him appear racist.  NBC heard about the story after everyone, they claim:
 

Sources at the network told Reuters on Thursday that NBC News executives did not know the emergency call was misleadingly edited until news reports surfaced days later on blogs including newsbusters.org and Breitbart.com.
 
So, there’s that. And you’re welcome, NBC. They also apparently fired someone but said that the editing was "a mistake"--yet we don’t know who they fired and we don’t know how it was a mistake.
 
CNN’s Racist Audio Fiasco
 
The CNN show Anderson Cooper 360 ran a report on March 21st that showed, with a dramatic technological flourish. that George Zimmerman had muttered a racial epithet under his breath as he pursued Trayvon Martin. That was the main piece of actual evidence of racism in the story.
 
Except, a week later CNN had another expert on who said that Zimmerman didn’t say ‘coon,’ but said ‘cold’ instead. Except, then an expert said the word was ‘punks’ not ‘cold.  And now what does CNN say?
 
Sometimes we hear what we want to hear.
 
Yeah. Thanks, CNN.
 
The Pictures 

This is a shameless, ongoing scandal that is so omnipresent that it doesn’t even feel like scandal — every network and print out there has used photos of Trayvon Marin that don’t accurately reflect how he looked at the time of the incident. Instead, we get photos supplied by the family’s attorney that gave many people the wrong impression that a young boy was shot. Why not show the 17 year Trayvon Martin?   ::snipping2:: 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 10, 2012, 11:52:46 AM
http://global.christianpost.com/news/trayvon-martin-shot-was-his-assailant-drunk-71645/

 ::monkeywine2::


A Hat Tip to Athena1

Athena 
Registered User   #1474
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1410679#post1410679


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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 10, 2012, 12:59:12 PM
 

(CBS News) SANFORD, Fla. - Shots were fired at a Sanford police car parked near the scene of the Trayvon Martin shooting. According to authorities, the cruiser was found Tuesday morning with bullet holes in it and at least window blown out.

Police said no one was inside the cruiser, which was parked across the street from the Retreat at Twin Lakes apartment complex, near the front of Bentley Elementary School.

CBS affiliate WKMG reports witnesses said they heard six shots. At least two bullets struck the patrol car.   ::snipping2:: 

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?pageType=national&url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57411787/shots-fired-at-police-car-near-trayvon-martin-shooting-scene/&feed_id=1&videoid=37&catid=57411787


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 10, 2012, 01:06:11 PM
http://global.christianpost.com/news/trayvon-martin-shot-was-his-assailant-drunk-71645/

 ::monkeywine2::


A Hat Tip to Athena1

Athena 
Registered User   #1474
http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1410679#post1410679


 ::justice2NJ::

And this right here...
Quote
New reports also show

is a problem.  We've already seen what 'news reports' show in this case and it isn't always the truth.  When the State's Atty says the man was drunk, I'll believe it.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 10, 2012, 01:26:26 PM
 

(CBS News) SANFORD, Fla. - Shots were fired at a Sanford police car parked near the scene of the Trayvon Martin shooting. According to authorities, the cruiser was found Tuesday morning with bullet holes in it and at least window blown out.

Police said no one was inside the cruiser, which was parked across the street from the Retreat at Twin Lakes apartment complex, near the front of Bentley Elementary School.

CBS affiliate WKMG reports witnesses said they heard six shots. At least two bullets struck the patrol car.   ::snipping2:: 

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?pageType=national&url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57411787/shots-fired-at-police-car-near-trayvon-martin-shooting-scene/&feed_id=1&videoid=37&catid=57411787

Oh my goodness...why don't they stop this crap...and that isn't by backing down!  I agree that an investigation should be ongoing...like ANY other case.  If my child was taken in this manner I would demand an investigation...but, in no way would I be okay with the violence.  I would get on national television and demand that everyone stop the violence and if protest were needed it would be quietly done.  I would use my resources not THIS!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 10, 2012, 01:47:06 PM
Does Target (Sanford) have a alcohol license? 
RZ,Jr. said GZ went to Target to buy Milk, did he buy anything else? 

Does the local 7-11 sell Beer, etc?

Florida Alcohol laws, nothing is crystal clear.

http://www.ehow.com/info_7746930_florida-alcohol-sales-laws.html

Hours of Sale

Florida allows local municipalities to determine the hours of sale for alcoholic beverages in restaurants. If a municipality does not pass an ordinance relating to the sale of alcoholic beverages, the latest hour they may be sold is 2 a.m. Counties and cities with later hours of sale include Tampa (3 a.m.) and Broward County (4 a.m.). Alcohol is sold 24 hours day in the Miami entertainment district. Store hours also vary by municipality.


Read more: Florida Alcohol Sales Laws | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_7746930_florida-alcohol-sales-laws.html#ixzz1rezW577A


 ::justice2NJ::

Good Questions are better than good answers.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 10, 2012, 02:30:35 PM
Too bad LE didn't see fit to test George Zimmerman at the time of the incident for drugs or alcohol...

We wouldn't be left guessing or wondering if he was under the influence.

I bet they tested Trayvon's remains for drugs and alcohol.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 10, 2012, 02:34:45 PM
 

(CBS News) SANFORD, Fla. - Shots were fired at a Sanford police car parked near the scene of the Trayvon Martin shooting. According to authorities, the cruiser was found Tuesday morning with bullet holes in it and at least window blown out.

Police said no one was inside the cruiser, which was parked across the street from the Retreat at Twin Lakes apartment complex, near the front of Bentley Elementary School.

CBS affiliate WKMG reports witnesses said they heard six shots. At least two bullets struck the patrol car.   ::snipping2:: 

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?pageType=national&url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57411787/shots-fired-at-police-car-near-trayvon-martin-shooting-scene/&feed_id=1&videoid=37&catid=57411787

This is loathsome.  The media's efforts of stirring the racist pot is paying off and now they have more stories to cover.

What's even more troubling is that the public has not learned to overcome this and see it for what it is.

I bet the shooter is some idiot who doesn't even care about race; they're just piggybacking on the media hype.



Great post, Muffy.  You nailed it.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 10, 2012, 03:42:48 PM
I wonder what TM's parents will be doing with the money they are making off of gullible people once this is all over with?



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 10, 2012, 03:50:26 PM
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/317432/20120321/trayvon-martin-case-george-zimmerman-drug-test.htm
Why Wasn't George Zimmerman Given Drug, Alcohol Tests but Travyon Was?

Quote
"Except for DUIs, police cannot test suspects for drugs or alcohol, unless the accused demands or consents to it, or they get a warrant. Trayvon Martin was tested for drugs and alcohol because it is the normal procedure of autopsies to determine the exact cause of death or contributing factors of death," the Washington Times said. "The so-called law enforcement and legal experts who claim Zimmerman should have been tested demonstrate they have no expertise."

And here it is folks...whether he'd shown positive or negative, any defense atty would have it thrown out.  Had the positions been reversed, Martin's atty would do the same and be screaming racial profiling if LE had even questioned the need for a tox test.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 10, 2012, 03:54:40 PM
IMO, this is going to end up like the duke lacrosse scandal.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 10, 2012, 03:56:12 PM
This is what we don't need, whether it's done in the name of Trayvon or George Zimmerman.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120409/ARTICLES/120409617/1182?Title=Man-tells-police-group-yelled-8216-Trayvon-then-beat-him
Man tells police group yelled ‘Trayvon,' then beat him
By Chad Smith
April 9, 2012

Police are investigating the “racially motivated” beating of a 27-year-old man who was walking home from midtown bars early Saturday when he said he was jumped by five to eight men who shouted “Trayvon” before the attack.

The exclamation was an apparent reference to Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old from Miami who was shot and killed in February walking back to his father’s girlfriend’s house in Sanford.

His shooter, George Zimmerman, has not been charged.

The case of Martin, an unarmed black teenager who was killed by Zimmerman, a Hispanic crime-watch volunteer, has stirred conversations across the country about race, crime and profiling.

Investigators believe that case was the catalyst for the beating Saturday in Gainesville.

“We do believe that the crime was racially motivated,” Gainesville Police Department spokeswoman Cpl. Angelina Valuri said.

The assailants were black, while the victim is white, Valuri said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 10, 2012, 04:23:24 PM

(RNN) - CNN is reporting that the embattled neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman will speak to the media within the hour.




More


SLIDESHOW: Outrage over Trayvon Martin case
 


Trayvon Martin, 17, was shot and killed Feb. 26 by George Zimmerman, 28, who claims self-defense.

Zimmerman made news most recently with a website he launched designed to raise funds for his defense. Zimmerman has admitted to shooting and killing Trayvon Martin, 17, on the night of Feb. 26 in Sanford, FL.

 
The website titled "The Real George Zimmerman" is asking for donations to help with legal defense fund, as the website says, for the "life altering event which led me to become the subject of intense media coverage."   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.wmctv.com/story/17371121/zimmerman-to-speak-for-the-first-time-since-shooting


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 10, 2012, 04:34:30 PM

Posted: 4:05 p.m. Tuesday, April 10, 2012


George Zimmerman's lawyers to hold news conference

George Zimmerman's lawyers are holding a news conference Tuesday afternoon in Seminole County.

It is not clear what the news conference is about.

Lawyers are meeting in front of the criminal justice building at 4:30

http://www.wdbo.com/news/news/local/george-zimmermans-lawyers-hold-news-conference/nMWdP/ p.m.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 10, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
http://www.wftv.com/s/watchlive/
breaking news
Watch Live: 4:30 p.m. news conference on Trayvon Martin case


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 10, 2012, 04:49:17 PM

Prosecutor's quandary: Zimmerman may be indicted, then acquitted
 

By Alan M. Dershowitz , Special to CNN
 
updated 4:09 PM EDT, Tue April 10, 2012
 
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
 Alan Dershowitz: Prosecutor in Trayvon Martin case could face "nightmare scenario"
 
 
Editor's note: Alan Dershowitz is the Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law at Harvard Law School.

(CNN) -- On the basis of the evidence currently in the public record, one likely outcome of the case against George Zimmerman is a mixed one: There may be sufficient evidence for a reasonable prosecutor to indict him for manslaughter, but there may also be doubt sufficient for a reasonable jury to acquit him.
 
Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the special prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker.
 
Media reports suggest that police found Zimmerman with grass stains on the back of his shirt, bloody bruises on the back of his head and other indicia that may support his contention that Trayvon Martin was banging his head against the ground when Zimmerman shot him.
 
We don't know what Martin's body or clothing show, other than the fatal bullet wound. If there are no comparable bruises or grass stains and if the bullet wound and powder residue establish that the gun was fired at very close range, this too might support a claim of self-defense.
 
Then there is a recorded cry for help, which, if it turns out to be the voice of Martin, would undercut the defense -- if the voice analysis passes scientific muster and is deemed admissible into evidence.
 
There may be additional forensic evidence -- or witnesses -- of which we are now unaware, though it is unlikely there is a "smoking gun."
 
Finally, there is the overarching and historically painful reality that an unarmed black teenager lies dead at the hand of an armed Hispanic man who ignored a dispatcher's advice not to follow and engage the "suspect," and who may have -- and this too is forensically unclear -- uttered a racial epithet while chasing him.
 
These "facts" give rise to several possible scenarios of what may actually have occurred on that dark rainy night. Under the Florida self-defense statute, it matters greatly what happened, most especially who "initially provoke[d] the use of force," and who started the physical encounter.
 
If Zimmerman initially provoked the deadly encounter, then he cannot invoke any "stand your ground" defense. He would then be under a legal obligation to "exhaust ... every reasonable means to escape."
 
Though this statute is anything but a model of clarity, it does suggest that whoever "provokes" a deadly encounter has a heavy burden of justification in claiming self-defense. But the statute doesn't define "provokes," and that ambiguous word may hold the key to the outcome of this tragic case.
 
If provocation is limited to a physical assault, and if Zimmerman's account that Martin blindsided him with a punch is believed, then Zimmerman did not provoke the encounter. But if provocation includes following the victim and harassing him, then Zimmerman may well qualify as a provocateur. Moreover, a jury may believe that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation by grabbing Martin. This would almost certainly constitute provocation.
 
But to complicate matters further, even a provocateur has the legal right to defend himself under Florida law if he can't escape and if he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, as Zimmerman claims he was.
 
All this goes to show how factually driven this case is under Florida law. And we don't yet know all the facts. The special prosecutor, who has said she will not use a grand jury to decide whether to indict Zimmerman, has an obligation to consider all the evidence and to apply the law to the facts.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/index.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 10, 2012, 05:13:28 PM
http://www.kltv.com/story/17371121/zimmermans-attorneys-have-lost-contact-with-him-withdraw-from-case

Zimmerman's attorneys have lost contact with him, withdraw from case
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 4:56 AM CDT Updated: Apr 10, 2012 3:57 PM CDT

RNN) - Attorneys for George Zimmerman said Tuesday they have lost touch with him, and are withdrawing their counsel. They have not met the embattled neighborhood watch captain face-to-face.

The last time they heard from him was Sunday.
 
"He has not returned phone calls or text messages or e-mails, which has led me to believe that I cannot go forward speaking [on his behalf]," Craig Sonner, one of Zimmerman's former attorneys, said.
 
Hal Uhrig, Zimmerman's former attorney, said Zimmerman has contacted Fox News' Sean Hannity, as well as prosecutors working on the case.
 
"We were quite astonished at that," Uhrig said.
 
The pair helped Zimmerman set up a website to raise funds for his defense with money set to go directly to Zimmerman's father. However, when the attorneys began getting questions from reporters about The Real George Zimmerman website, they realized he had gone off on his own and set up the website himself.

The The Real George Zimmerman website asks for funds to help support his legal defense.

Uhrig said they know where Zimmerman is; however, he will not return phone calls from them.
 
"We have a pretty good idea of where he is. We have his phone number," Uhrig said. "It goes to voice mail. That's the number he's used to contact the prosecutor's office."
 
Sonner said his former legal team cannot represent Zimmerman under the current conditions.
 
"We cannot ethically go forward and say we are representing George Zimmerman when he's giving interviews and things, and setting up wesites that I don't know about," Sonner said.
 
Uhrig said he was concerned about Zimmerman's condition, indicating Zimmerman has lost weight and is probably suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.
 
"Our fear is not so much about the money. We were initially concerned about the website that someone else had set this up and was taking advantage of the situation. Our concern runs deeper than that," Uhrig said. "This has been a terribly corrosive process"
 
Both lawyers indicated they strongly believe in Zimmerman's innocence, as far as his claims that he acted in self-defense.
 
"We absolutely stand by everything we've said about this case. We hope for the best for George Zimmerman. We hope for the best for the Martin family," Uhrig said. "He's gotta reach out to us. We are his legal representatives. He's got to affirm that. If he does that, we'll help him."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 10, 2012, 05:19:04 PM
Too bad LE didn't see fit to test George Zimmerman at the time of the incident for drugs or alcohol...

We wouldn't be left guessing or wondering if he was under the influence.

I bet they tested Trayvon's remains for drugs and alcohol.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 10, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/04/zimmerman-lawyer-to-hold-news-conference/1?csp=34news
Zimmerman's lawyers withdraw from Martin case
April 10, 2012

Lawyers for George Zimmerman, the man who claimed he killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense, said at a conference that they are withdrawing as his counsel because he has stopped communicating with them. They also said he contacted the Florida special prosecutor investigating the Feb. 26 shooting death of Martin.

Updated at 5:06 p.m. ET: Addressing the question of, "Is George Zimmerman a racist?", Uhrig cites Zimmerman's mixed heritage -- his mother is Peruvian -- and his having friends of other races.

"He's not a member of the Aryan Nation," he says. "He's a neighborhood-watch guy."

Update at 5:04 p.m. ET: Sonner and Uhrigh both reiterate that they believe that the evidence shows Zimmerman "was acting in self-defense that night."

Update at 4:55 p.m. ET: Attorney Craig Sonner says he doesn't believe Zimmerman will flee the country. He and Hal Uhrig say they have not met Zimmerman and had communicated him daily by texts, phone calls and email. They say he is in the United States but do not know where he is.
More...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 10, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/news/Zimmerman-s-legal-team-withdraws/-/475880/10428242/-/10f1x9a/-/

Zimmerman's legal team withdraws
Neighborhood watch leader who shot unarmed teen isn't returning attorneys' calls
Published On: Apr 10 2012 04:54:38 PM EDT Updated On: Apr 10 2012 05:20:54 PM EDT

 ::snipping2::
In a news conference outside the Seminole County Courthouse, Sonner and Hal Uhrig said that Zimmerman has not returned their phone calls, emails or text messages since Sunday. His attorneys said they learned that Zimmerman called Corey's office and volunteered to come in and talk with them -- something no defense attorney would allow. Corey's staff refused to talk to him without an attorney -- something Uhrig praised.

"We're impressed with the professionalism of the Duval County state attorney's office," Uhrig said
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 10, 2012, 05:43:29 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/sean-hannity-george-zimmerman_n_1416080.html

Sean Hannity Spoke To George Zimmerman Off The Record, Former Lawyers Say
The Huffington Post  |  By Jack Mirkinson Posted: 04/10/2012 4:47 pm Updated: 04/10/2012 5:13 pm

 ::snipping2::
During that press conference, they revealed that Zimmerman had had a conversation with Hannity.

"We learned that he had contacted Sean Hannity of Fox News directly, not through us, and we believe, I can't confirm this, we believe that he spoke directly with Sean, off the record, and he's not even willing to tell us what our client told him," attorney Hal Uhrig said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 10, 2012, 06:50:13 PM
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/317432/20120321/trayvon-martin-case-george-zimmerman-drug-test.htm
Why Wasn't George Zimmerman Given Drug, Alcohol Tests but Travyon Was?

Quote
"Except for DUIs, police cannot test suspects for drugs or alcohol, unless the accused demands or consents to it, or they get a warrant. Trayvon Martin was tested for drugs and alcohol because it is the normal procedure of autopsies to determine the exact cause of death or contributing factors of death," the Washington Times said. "The so-called law enforcement and legal experts who claim Zimmerman should have been tested demonstrate they have no expertise."

And here it is folks...whether he'd shown positive or negative, any defense atty would have it thrown out.  Had the positions been reversed, Martin's atty would do the same and be screaming racial profiling if LE had even questioned the need for a tox test.

I've just spoken with my father who is a retired law enforcement officer.  He said absolutely, if you have a suspect at the scene of a homicide you can do drug and alcohol testing and it does not have to be at their consent.  Florida may be different but in our state it is standard procedure.

I have a cousin who is a LE officer in Massachusettes and I'm going to check in with her as well.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sailcat on April 10, 2012, 09:17:00 PM
I wonder what TM's parents will be doing with the money they are making off of gullible people once this is all over with?
Whatever the money does, it won't bring back their child who was taken from them.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 10, 2012, 09:32:20 PM
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/317432/20120321/trayvon-martin-case-george-zimmerman-drug-test.htm
Why Wasn't George Zimmerman Given Drug, Alcohol Tests but Travyon Was?

Quote
"Except for DUIs, police cannot test suspects for drugs or alcohol, unless the accused demands or consents to it, or they get a warrant. Trayvon Martin was tested for drugs and alcohol because it is the normal procedure of autopsies to determine the exact cause of death or contributing factors of death," the Washington Times said. "The so-called law enforcement and legal experts who claim Zimmerman should have been tested demonstrate they have no expertise."

And here it is folks...whether he'd shown positive or negative, any defense atty would have it thrown out.  Had the positions been reversed, Martin's atty would do the same and be screaming racial profiling if LE had even questioned the need for a tox test.

I've just spoken with my father who is a retired law enforcement officer.  He said absolutely, if you have a suspect at the scene of a homicide you can do drug and alcohol testing and it does not have to be at their consent.  Florida may be different but in our state it is standard procedure.

I have a cousin who is a LE officer in Massachusettes and I'm going to check in with her as well.
Although it may be done without consent, I would think a warrant would be necessary if it is to be used in a court of law. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 10, 2012, 09:35:15 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Angela-Corey-to-present-new-information-in-Trayvon-Martin-case/-/1637132/10452410/-/okqsez/-/index.html

Angela Corey to present new information in Trayvon Martin case

Quote
State Attorney Angela Corey, the special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case, announced on Tuesday night that she will hold a news conference sometime within the next three days.

The media will be notified three hours in advance of the news conference as to when and where it will be held -- either Jacksonville or Sanford.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 10, 2012, 09:40:56 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-10/entertainment/os-george-zimmerman-bizarre-tv-041012_1_news-conference-criminal-defense-lawyer-wofl
George Zimmerman's lawyers give bizarre news conference

I'm beginning to think that GZ has had some type of mental health crisis.  I know I would if I had a group of hatemongers putting a bounty on my head.  His family should keep a close watch on him.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 10, 2012, 09:58:56 PM
Seahorse...our Target stores sell alcohol...I think it was you who had inquired about it...I think that most of them do.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 10, 2012, 10:01:15 PM
Wonder what is going to happen if GZ is not arrested? What if the new evidence shows that it was self defense? People who are protesting are not oing to accept that even if it was true...this is not going to be pretty..


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 10, 2012, 10:16:09 PM
Neighbor: George Zimmerman called me
Frank Taaffe tells Local 6 he spoke to Zimmerman after grand jury announcement

SANFORD, Fla. -
In the midst of attorneys saying they couldn't reach George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watchman who shot and killed Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman's neighbor says he talked to him Monday.

Frank Taaffe told Local 6 he spoke with Zimmerman on Monday afternoon around 1 p.m.,  just after special prosecutor Angela Corey decided not to send the case to a grand jury. He said Zimmerman called him and they talked for about 30 minutes.

Taaffe didn't go into huge detail about their conversation, but he did say Zimmerman's former attorneys weren't accurate when characterizing his emotional state at a news conference Tuesday. Zimmerman's attorneys Hal Uhrig and Craig Sonner have stepped down, saying they couldn't get a hold of Zimmerman and hadn't heard from him since Sunday.

"I was a little irate when I heard afterwards that people were concerned with-I guess one of them mentioned they were concerned for his mental well-being," Taafe said. "Of course he's going through some fluctuations in his life right now, but I can assure you that he was, once again, lucid, concise and clear. He wanted to share with the public that he called me."

Taaffe said he wasn't sure if Zimmerman was looking for other representation.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Neighbor-George-Zimmerman-called-me/-/1637132/10440640/-/q41ybg/-/index.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 10, 2012, 10:44:09 PM
Does J.O. have a pilot's license and a plane, in Sanford?  I am just wondering :)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 10, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/11/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-blotter-idUS176126957220120411

Zimmerman's Lawyers Withdraw, Citing Ethics
Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:07am EDT

 ::snipping2::
Sonner cited ethical concerns in withdrawing as Zimmerman's lawyer. Under Florida's Rules of Professional Conduct, a lawyer may withdraw if "the client insists upon taking action that the lawyer considers repugnant, imprudent, or with which the lawyer has a fundamental disagreement."

There are also situations in which a Florida lawyer must withdraw. They include when a client engages in criminal conduct, or when a lawyer is too physically or mentally impaired to do her job.

Again, Zimmerman hasn't been charged with a crime. But if proceedings had already commenced against him, his lawyers likely would have needed the court's permission to withdraw. In the end, it's the judge's decision.

Attorneys Craig Sonner and Hal Uhrig said they may represent George Zimmerman again, if he asks them to. But Zimmerman has not returned their calls, text messages, or emails. "He's gone on his own. I'm not sure what he's doing or who he's talking to," Sonner said, according to the Associated Press.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 10, 2012, 11:14:24 PM
Seahorse...our Target stores sell alcohol...I think it was you who had inquired about it...I think that most of them do.

Thank-you, Cookie.  I could go for a glass of wine :)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 10, 2012, 11:17:18 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/10/george_zimmerman_web


By Amanda Evans and Scott McDonnell, Team Coverage
Last Updated: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 @ 09:00PM

SANFORD -- 
The state attorney handling the Trayvon Martin case says she will hold a news conference with new information soon.

Trayvon Martin: State attorney to break silence within 72 hours
 ::monkeywine2::

Credit to those nice posters at JQ.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 11, 2012, 08:19:49 AM
Does J.O. have a pilot's license and a plane, in Sanford?  I am just wondering :)

Who is J.O?  My mind is a blank at the moment


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 11, 2012, 09:12:36 AM
Does J.O. have a pilot's license and a plane, in Sanford?  I am just wondering :)

Who is J.O?  My mind is a blank at the moment

Good morning Monkey's,

Cookie, Joseph Oliver is GZ (supposed) friend.

A JO has a pilot's license out of Sanford, FL. I do not know if this is GZ friend or not.



 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 11, 2012, 09:23:30 AM
http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/135837/new_george_zimmerman_website_proves


 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 11, 2012, 10:01:09 AM
Thanks Seahorse..


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 12:43:39 PM



http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/041112-metal-barrier-placed-outside-seminole-county-jail
Metal barrier placed outside Seminole County jail intake area
April 11, 2012

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The Seminole County Sheriff’s Office has placed a long metal barrier in front of the intake area at the Seminole County jail.

National media outlets have set up shop in anticipation of George Zimmerman’s arrest.
Special prosecutor Angela Corey said late Tuesday that she will release new information regarding the Trayvon Martin shooting death investigation by Friday.
Corey says she will hold a news conference in either Sanford or Jacksonville to discuss the case.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/11/opinion/hostin-trayvon-martin-jury/
Let a jury decide on Trayvon Martin case
By Sunny Hostin, CNN
April 11, 2012

 ::snipping2::
Florida's law states that a person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force ... to prevent death or great bodily harm.

So even if Zimmerman killed Martin, he was justified in doing so if he believed he was in danger of being killed himself or of suffering great bodily harm. It seems the Sanford Police certainly believed Zimmerman's claims. But there is an exception.

If Zimmerman was the initial aggressor, he cannot avail himself of the protection of the "stand your ground" law. Former Florida State Rep. Dennis Baxley, the co-sponsor of the law, told me by phone that the law doesn't apply to Zimmerman if he pursued Martin and was the initial aggressor. And he is right.

Florida's statute makes it clear that the justification is not available to a person who initially provokes the use of force against himself, unless such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he has exhausted every reasonable means to escape.

And that is what this case ultimately boils down to -- who started the fight. And the answer to that question is far from clear.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 12:55:08 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-11/news/os-george-zimmerman-corey-deadline-20120411_1_sonner-and-hal-uhrig-special-prosecutor-announcement
Trayvon's special prosecutor sets Friday deadline
April 11, 2012

The special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin shooting has set a deadline: By Friday night, she will make an announcement about the case.

There is widespread speculation that Angela Corey, state attorney in Jacksonville, will announce her decision in the case.

She'll either say she's filing criminal charges against George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who killed the unarmed black 17-year-old, or that her investigation is done and there's not enough evidence to arrest him.

Her office sent reporters a news release Tuesday at 8 p.m., saying she would make her announcement in the next 72 hours.

It's not clear whether she'll make it in Sanford, where Trayvon was killed Feb. 26, or in Jacksonville, the site of her office. She's the elected state attorney for Duval, Clay and Nassau counties.

Reporters and news crews appear to be gambling that she'll have Zimmerman arrested and jailed in Sanford.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 11, 2012, 12:55:20 PM



http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/041112-metal-barrier-placed-outside-seminole-county-jail
Metal barrier placed outside Seminole County jail intake area
April 11, 2012

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The Seminole County Sheriff’s Office has placed a long metal barrier in front of the intake area at the Seminole County jail.

National media outlets have set up shop in anticipation of George Zimmerman’s arrest.
Special prosecutor Angela Corey said late Tuesday that she will release new information regarding the Trayvon Martin shooting death investigation by Friday.
Corey says she will hold a news conference in either Sanford or Jacksonville to discuss the case.
 ::snipping2::


Looks like they are preparing to arrest him.  I think that he may be safer in there since he will likely be placed in a private cell. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 01:31:12 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-04-11/trayvon-martin-review/54167820/1?csp=34news
AG Holder vows thorough review in Trayvon Martin case
April 10, 2012

WASHINGTON – Attorney General Eric Holder pledged Wednesday that the ongoing federal civil rights inquiry into Trayvon Martin's death would be "a thorough and independent review of the evidence.''
"Although I cannot share where current efforts will lead us from here,'' Holder said in a speech to the National Action Network, a civil rights group that has been calling for an arrest in the case, "I can assure you that, in this investigation — and in all cases — we will examine the facts and the law.

"If we find evidence of a potential federal criminal civil rights crime, we will take appropriate action,'' Holder said. "And at every step, the facts and the law will guide us forward.''
More...
Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 02:12:26 PM
Prosecutor to Charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin Killing

Headline only on drudgereport

http://drudgereport.com/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 02:15:27 PM
More....

George Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin shooting, law enforcement official says
By Sari Horwitz, Wednesday, April 11, 11:56 AM
Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face.

Martin, 17 and unarmed, was shot and killed Feb. 26 by Zimmerman, who said he was acting in self-defense. Police in Sanford, Fla., where the shooting took place, did not charge Zimmerman, citing the state’s “stand your ground” law.

Corey told reporters Tuesday night that she would hold a news conference about the case within 72 hours. A news release from her office said the event will be held in Sanford or Jacksonville, Fla.

Benjamin Crump, who is representing the Martin family, said earlier this week that Corey’s office had asked where Trayvon’s parents would be each day this week. They arrived Wednesday in Washington for a civil rights conference organized by the Rev. Al Sharpton, where they are scheduled to speak.

The announcement of a charge against Zimmerman would come a day after Zimmerman’s lawyers withdrew from the case, citing their inability to contact Zimmerman.  ::snipping2::

 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_print.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 11, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
Prosecutor to Charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin Killing

Headline only on drudgereport

http://drudgereport.com/

Good afternoon Monkey's,

He was first to report on the Monica Lewinsky, dress,  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I am confident...he is right, on this case.   ::rhino::

Matt Drudge is OK

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 02:24:11 PM
A decision on whether to charge Florida neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman with the shooting death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin has been made, sources told ABC News.
 
The decision by Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey is expected to be announced at a 6 p.m. news conference in Jacksonville, Fla.
 
The prosecutor's ruling is certain to provoke controversy in Sanford, Fla., where shooting took place and across the country.  ::snipping2:: 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-decision-made-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469
 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 11, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
Thanks Seahorse..

You are welcome, Cookie.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 11, 2012, 02:26:30 PM
A decision on whether to charge Florida neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman with the shooting death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin has been made, sources told ABC News.
 
The decision by Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey is expected to be announced at a 6 p.m. news conference in Jacksonville, Fla.
 
The prosecutor's ruling is certain to provoke controversy in Sanford, Fla., where shooting took place and across the country.  ::snipping2:: 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-decision-made-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469
 

Thank-you, Toler, for keeping the Monkey's updated.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 02:29:47 PM
A decision on whether to charge Florida neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman with the shooting death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin has been made, sources told ABC News.
 
The decision by Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey is expected to be announced at a 6 p.m. news conference in Jacksonville, Fla.
 
The prosecutor's ruling is certain to provoke controversy in Sanford, Fla., where shooting took place and across the country.  ::snipping2:: 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-decision-made-trayvon-martin-killing/story?id=16115469
 

Thank-you, Toler, for keeping the Monkey's updated.



YW...hopefully, with this announcement things will calm down!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 02:42:50 PM

George Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin shooting, law enforcement official says
 Washington Post ^ | 04/11/12

Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:10:33 PM by AtlasStalled

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2870790/posts?q=1&;page=1

comments are....interesting, on this site.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 02:51:27 PM
Tampa, Florida - It was an emotional interview for Michelle Williams.
 
As a community activist and chief of staff for the New Black Panther Party, Michelle is used to addressing many issues.  But when it comes to her passion in the Trayvon Martin case, she get especially upset and tearful.
 
Through tears, she said, "If my words, my words that I had to say out of anger will make the American people address this issue, let it be my time, Melanie. Let it be my time to address this issue with America, that we say enough is enough. We can't have any more killings."
 
Michelle is now offering an apology for her controversial comments.
 
She spoke openly, "My words were out of anger. I did not incite, I did not promote, nor did I encourage anyone to go and pick up a gun."
 
In an online interview this week, Michelle Williams spoke openly of her frustration with what she calls the massive racial problem in this country, especially over the Trayvon Martin case. She admits that her sadness over the case was overwhelming and that she spoke harshly during the online segment.
 
Her words were not taken lightly and were replayed Tuesday morning by nationally syndicated radio talk show host Bubba the Love Sponge.
 
Michelle said during the interview, "Let me tell you, the things that's about to happen, to these honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, these ---- people. It has been long overdue. My prize right now this evening ... is gonna be the bounty, the arrest, dead or alive, for George Zimmerman. You feel me   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/250102/8/New-Black-Panther-Party-chief-of-staff-apologizes


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 11, 2012, 02:52:26 PM
Of course he will be charged with something. If she does not, there will be mayhem ! I do think that a jury is the one to decide his guilt or innocence after seeing all the evidence in this case. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 02:55:03 PM


Tampa, Florida - It was an emotional interview for Michelle Williams.
 
As a community activist and chief of staff for the New Black Panther Party, Michelle is used to addressing many issues.  But when it comes to her passion in the Trayvon Martin case, she get especially upset and tearful.
 
Through tears, she said, "If my words, my words that I had to say out of anger will make the American people address this issue, let it be my time, Melanie. Let it be my time to address this issue with America, that we say enough is enough. We can't have any more killings."
 
Michelle is now offering an apology for her controversial comments.
 
She spoke openly, "My words were out of anger. I did not incite, I did not promote, nor did I encourage anyone to go and pick up a gun."
 
In an online interview this week, Michelle Williams spoke openly of her frustration with what she calls the massive racial problem in this country, especially over the Trayvon Martin case. She admits that her sadness over the case was overwhelming and that she spoke harshly during the online segment.
 
Her words were not taken lightly and were replayed Tuesday morning by nationally syndicated radio talk show host Bubba the Love Sponge.
 
Michelle said during the interview, "Let me tell you, the things that's about to happen, to these honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, these ---- people. It has been long overdue. My prize right now this evening ... is gonna be the bounty, the arrest, dead or alive, for George Zimmerman. You feel me   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/250102/8/New-Black-Panther-Party-chief-of-staff-apologizes

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  Just wrong.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 11, 2012, 02:59:21 PM
Very wrong Muffey!
Talk about racism! 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 11, 2012, 03:01:56 PM
Very wrong Muffey!
Talk about racism! 


These comments of mine are in regards to what that Michelle said in previous article that Muffers posted..didn't realize that we would be changing pages and my post would to ake sense lol..although it would not be the first time...lol


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 11, 2012, 03:02:53 PM
Darn iPad..changes my words. Grrrr


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 03:11:21 PM
Today, Attorney General Eric Holder spoke at the National Action Network Convention in New York. Its tagline: No Justice, No Peace. He was introduced by Al Sharpton, the rabblerousing, race-baiting MSNBC host who has inserted himself into the Trayvon Martin shooting case and threatened the city of Sanford, Florida with civil disobedience.

Holder said:
 
Now I know that many of you are greatly, and rightly, concerned about the recent shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a young man whose future has been lost to the ages. As most of you know, three weeks ago the Department of Justice launched an investigation into this incident which remains open at this time and prevents me from talking in detail about his matter. But I can tell you that in recent weeks Justice Department officials … have traveled to Sanford, Florida to meet with the Martin family, the community, and local authorities.

The FBI is assisting local law enforcement officials … the Justice Department’s peacemakers are continuing to meet with civil rights leaders, law enforcement officers, and area residents to address and to help alleviate community tensions …
 
In all of these discussions, we’re listening carefully to concerns, and we’re emphasizing that the Department will conduct a thorough and independent review of the evidence … I can assure you that in this investigation and in all cases, we will examine the facts and the law. If we find evidence of a potential federal criminal civil rights crime, we will take appropriate action ...   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/11/Holder-Sharpton-Trayvon


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cadillac on April 11, 2012, 03:11:57 PM
What if george is out of the country by now?  What happens?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 03:35:47 PM

Carney: No More From Obama on Trayvon Martin

by Keith Koffler on April 11, 2012, 1:26 pm


White House Press Secretary Jay Carney today said President Obama will make no further comments on the Trayvon Martin case.

“I certainly don’t think you’ll hear from him,” Carney said, noting that there is an “ongoing investigation” in the case.

Carney suggested the White House is now imposing a wall of silence on the matter. “He and I and others will refrain from commenting on it,” he said.

Carney did not say that Obama had erred in addressing the case last month when the president suggested sympathy for Martin and remarked that if he had a son, he would look like him. The case was also under investigation then.

Martin, who is black, was shot and killed by George Zimmerman, who is half white and half Hispanic, during an altercation February 26 in Sanford, Florida. Zimmerman has said he was acting in self defense, but many African Americans and black leaders charge he was the victim of a racially motivated attack

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/04/11/carney-obama-trayvon-martin/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 11, 2012, 03:51:28 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/george-zimmerman-the-possible-charges-he-could-face/2012/04/11/gIQA9LRyAT_story.html

George Zimmerman: The charges he could face
By Elizabeth Flock, Wednesday, April 11, 2:19 PM

 ::snipping2::
The charges that Zimmerman could face include second-degree murder and manslaughter.

According to MSNBC, first-degree murder is not an option because Corey did not take the case to a grand jury.

Murder in the second degree, under Florida law, is defined as “the unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual.”

To charge Zimmerman with murder in the second degree, the state would need to prove that he committed the act regardless of human life.

Zimmerman’s attorneys, however, could argue the shooting was “lawful” because it was done in self-defense.

A conviction of murder in the second degree is punishable by life in prison under Florida law.

The other possible charge, manslaughter, is defined as a killing done without premeditation, and is often handed down when the killer is judged to have been caught in the “heat of the moment.”

Under Florida law, manslaughter is described as “the killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification... and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder.”

An argument of negligence in this case could be made if prosecutors proved Zimmerman followed Martin, even after a police dispatcher told him not to.

A conviction of manslaughter is punishable by up to 15 years in prison.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 11, 2012, 04:18:11 PM
I think that the charges by the special prosecutor will be similar to those in the police report.  We'll see... :smt102

From the police report--Offenses Section.

"homicide neglig-
mansl/unnecessary killing to
prevent unlawful act"

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 04:28:01 PM

Apr 11, 2012 3:38pm

Bar Is High for Proving Hate Crime Case Against George Zimmerman, Says AG Eric Holder

Attorney General Eric Holder called the death of Trayvon Martin a “pain no parent should have to endure,” and said that the Justice Department has a high bar to cross to bring a federal hate crime case against George Zimmerman.
 
“For a federal hate crime, we have to prove the highest standard in the law it is something that was reckless, that was negligent,” Holder said at a news conference. “We have to show that there was a specific intent to do the crime with the requisite state of mind.”
 
Asked by ABC News’ Pierre Thomas about his reaction to the murder of Martin as a parent, Holder said, “People have reacted to this on a number of levels. I mean as a parent, I reacted to it [as] this is a pain that no parent should have to endure. The notion of having to bury a child is something that is, I think, in some ways for a parent the ultimate pain, so there was that reaction.”
 
“We also have, I think, a reaction that is based on issues we have faced in this nation over the years. It brings to the surface many of those issues, so there was that reaction as well,” Holder said.   ::snipping2:: 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/bar-is-high-for-proving-hate-crime-case-against-george-zimmerman-says-ag-eric-holder/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Blonde on April 11, 2012, 05:01:14 PM
I can't seem to find anything about Trayvon Martin, was he ever in trouble? was he a good kid anyone know


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 05:10:43 PM


While activists, protesters and the parents of Trayvon Martin continue to push for his shooter's arrest, more details are being learned of his suspensions and reported troubles at school.

The 17-year-old was suspended three times in a series of incidents that included getting caught spraying graffiti and carrying an empty baggie with traces of marijuana, according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by the Miami Herald.

The report details an incident from October, when a school police investigator said he spotted Martin on a surveillance camera "hiding and being suspicious" in an unauthorized area at Krop High School.

The investigator later saw Martin mark a door with "W.T.F." or "what the f--k," the report said. When the school cop searched Martin's backpack the next day looking for the graffiti marker, he reported he found women's jewelry and a screwdriver described as a "burglary tool," the report said.

According to the report, the 12 pieces of jewelry included silver wedding bands, earrings with diamonds and a watch. The investigator asked about the jewelry and "Martin replied it's not mine. A friend gave it to me," the report said.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/Trayvon-Martin-Suspended-From-School-Three-Times-Report-144403305.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 11, 2012, 05:15:31 PM
Of course he will be charged with something. If she does not, there will be mayhem ! I do think that a jury is the one to decide his guilt or innocence after seeing all the evidence in this case. 

Good evening Monkey's,

Where are the flower children when you need them?  :)

OT

I needed a laugh. PG rating, IMO, but on the edge.

Hippies and Flower Children, Body Body Painting of the 1960's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qaVmLBNm4


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 05:21:18 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/11/experts-zimmerman-should-lay-low-stop-talking/
Experts: Zimmerman should lay low, stop talking
April 11, 2012

 ::snipping2::
Jack Schafer, a professor at Western Illinois University and a former FBI behavioral analyst, said Zimmerman's behavior hasn't been erratic. After all, Schafer said, he wasn't charged with any crime and was free to go wherever he wanted after he cooperated with authorities the night of the shooting.

"If I were him, I'd go somewhere in hiding," said Schafer. "His life is at risk, not by jurisprudence, but by angry people who are rushing to judgment."

Schafer said he thinks Zimmerman will cooperate with law enforcement once the charges are announced.

"If he was going to flee, he would have flown by now," said Schafer. "He adamantly maintains he did nothing wrong. If he believes he did nothing wrong, why would he need to flee, except from the press and the vigilantes."

Zimmerman showed the strain on the website he set up for himself, adorned with the American flag.
More...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/10/opinion/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-nightmare/?hpt=hp_t1
Prosecutor's quandary: Zimmerman may be indicted, then acquitted
By Alan M. Dershowitz , Special to CNN
April 11, 2012

(CNN) -- On the basis of the evidence currently in the public record, one likely outcome of the case against George Zimmerman is a mixed one: There may be sufficient evidence for a reasonable prosecutor to indict him for manslaughter, but there may also be doubt sufficient for a reasonable jury to acquit him.

Any such predictions should be accepted with an abundance of caution, however, because the evidence known to the special prosecutor, but not to the public, may paint a different picture. It may be stronger or weaker.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: klaasend on April 11, 2012, 05:34:47 PM
I can't seem to find anything about Trayvon Martin, was he ever in trouble? was he a good kid anyone know


He was suspended from school.  Something about Marijuana.  Not an angel, IMO. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: klaasend on April 11, 2012, 05:47:07 PM
He will be charged with 2nd degree murder

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/11/zimmerman-to-be-charged-by-florida-special-prosecutor-report-says/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/11/zimmerman-to-be-charged-by-florida-special-prosecutor-report-says/)

George Zimmerman to Be Charged With 2nd-Degree Murder in Death of Trayvon Martin, AP Reports




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 11, 2012, 05:49:17 PM
JUST IN: AP: George Zimmerman to be charged with 2nd-degree murder; is in custody.

http://baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/11/trayvon_martin_zimme?cmpid=facebook

I sure hope they are doing this for the RIGHT reasons.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 06:32:23 PM
http://www.freep.com/article/20120411/NEWS07/120411039/Watch-live-George-Zimmerman-charged-2nd-degree-murder-Trayvon-Martin-death
Watch live: George Zimmerman charged with 2nd-degree murder in Trayvon Martin death
April 11, 2012

SANFORD, Fla. — George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who fatally shot unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in Florida, has been arrested and charged with second-degree murder in the 17-year-old's death, officials said today.

Special prosecutor Angela Corey said at a press conference in Jacksonville that the 28-year-old Zimmerman is in custody. She wouldn't disclose Zimmerman's whereabouts for his safety's sake, but said that he will be in court within 24 hours.

Corey said that authorities did not come to the decision lightly, nor was it based on public pressure.

The charge carries a maximum sentence of life in prison. Second-degree murder is typically charged when there is a fight or other confrontation that results in death and where there is no premeditated plan to kill someone.
 ::snipping2::
On Wednesday, Attorney General Eric Holder also said the Justice Department is conducting a thorough and independent review of the case after launching its own investigation three weeks ago.
 ::snipping2::
Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 06:36:13 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Official-George-Zimmerman-to-be-charged-with-2nd-degree-murder-in-Martin-s-death/-/1637132/10539330/-/13vuqhq/-/index.html
George Zimmerman charged with 2nd-degree murder in Trayvon Martin's death
Neighborhood watch leader fatally shot teen in Sanford

April 11, 2012

ORLANDO, Fla. -

George Zimmerman was taken into custody Wednesday on second-degree murder charges in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

Special prosecutor Angela Corey made the announcement at a news conference in Jacksonville.  Corey said Zimmerman turned himself in to authorities but wouldn't say where he is.

Corey says that authorities did not come to the decision lightly, nor was it based on public pressure.
When asked by Local 6 reporter Tony Pipitone what specific evidence was uncovered to bring the charges against Zimmerman, Corey said she wouldn't discuss details about the case.

"That will be in court, detailed evidence -- that's why we try cases in court," Corey said.  "That would be commenting on the facts of the case, and we are not going to do that at this time."

Second-degree murder carries a maximum sentence of life in prison and is typically charged when there is a fight or other confrontation that results in death and where there is no premeditated plan to kill someone.


Prior to Corey's announcement, Local 6 News learned that its legal expert, Orlando attorney Mark O'Mara, had been retained to represent Zimmerman.

 ::snipping2::
Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that he would act if evidence of a civil rights crime is found in the shooting.
 ::snipping2::
Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 11, 2012, 06:41:09 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/11/report_mark_o_mara_n/

Report: Mark O'Mara new attorney for George Zimmerman
Last Updated: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 @ 06:23PM

ORLANDO --
CNN says an Orlando attorney is the new counsel for George Zimmerman, the man accused of shooting and killing Trayvon Martin in Sanford back in February.
 
CNN legal analyst Mark Nejame says Mark O'Mara will serve as attorney for George Zimmerman.
 
According to his website O'Mara, whose office is in Orlando, specializes in crminal law and family law. He is also a former prosecutor, and is the president of the Seminole County Bar Association.
 
O'Mara has been practicing law in Central Florida for 28 years.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 11, 2012, 07:03:49 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-mark-omara-george-zimmerman-lawyer-2012-4

Who Is Mark O'Mara?

 ::snipping2::
According to a bio on the O'Mara Law Group website, O'Mara is a criminal and family law attorney, as well as a legal analyst for Central Florida's WKMG Channel 6.
 
In fact, just yesterday, O'Mara was opining about the Zimmerman case, telling WKMG-Channel 6 that he was "surprised that two attorneys who were no longer counsel talked for an hour about a case that they’re no longer involved in."
 
"I think that was a little problematic," O'Mara said. "You’re not supposed to talk about a client’s case, for the most part at all, and yet they answered dozens of questions.”
 
O'Mara also commented on the Martin case last month, telling WKMG that the shooting could be legally justified by Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. He also said that, without witnesses, it will come down to Zimmerman's word without any contradictions.
 
"If you can present evidence or at least your own testimony that (you) felt in fear that he was going to commit great bodily injury or death, that is what kicks in the statutory protection that you're allowed to respond with deadly force," O'Mara said.
 
O'Mara achieved minor local celebrity status in Central Florida as a TV legal analyst during the Casey Anthony trial. O'Mara frequently argued for fairness in the media's coverage of the Anthony trial, and has said that he believes there was a bias against the defense. 

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-mark-omara-george-zimmerman-lawyer-2012-4#ixzz1rm8hZY7m


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 11, 2012, 07:08:38 PM
http://www.markomaralaw.com/Attorney-Profile/Mark-M-O-mara.shtml

O'Mara Law Group


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: tupelohoney on April 11, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-mark-omara-george-zimmerman-lawyer-2012-4

Who Is Mark O'Mara?

 ::snipping2::
According to a bio on the O'Mara Law Group website, O'Mara is a criminal and family law attorney, as well as a legal analyst for Central Florida's WKMG Channel 6.
 
In fact, just yesterday, O'Mara was opining about the Zimmerman case, telling WKMG-Channel 6 that he was "surprised that two attorneys who were no longer counsel talked for an hour about a case that they’re no longer involved in."
 
"I think that was a little problematic," O'Mara said. "You’re not supposed to talk about a client’s case, for the most part at all, and yet they answered dozens of questions.”
 
O'Mara also commented on the Martin case last month, telling WKMG that the shooting could be legally justified by Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. He also said that, without witnesses, it will come down to Zimmerman's word without any contradictions.
 
"If you can present evidence or at least your own testimony that (you) felt in fear that he was going to commit great bodily injury or death, that is what kicks in the statutory protection that you're allowed to respond with deadly force," O'Mara said.
 
O'Mara achieved minor local celebrity status in Central Florida as a TV legal analyst during the Casey Anthony trial. O'Mara frequently argued for fairness in the media's coverage of the Anthony trial, and has said that he believes there was a bias against the defense. 

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-mark-omara-george-zimmerman-lawyer-2012-4#ixzz1rm8hZY7m

BBM We all know why the "media was biased".....they read the discovery!!....and we all had to hear and see Baez and the Anthony's spin their version of mistruths.....constantly, non stop.  It all boiled down to $$$ for the media and a jury panel of non-critical thinkers, (to be nice).

Let's see how Mr. O'Mara handles this case....will he use the media as Baez did?  Only time will tell, but the way this case progressed before charges...with the 911 calls, witnesses statements, the public outcry......how much will really end up in court??? And how much of the defense will come from bloggers and such?? 

I was shocked at the 2nd degree murder charge!!  I hope the evidence that brought that charge is air tight.  If over charged, he walks.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cadillac on April 11, 2012, 07:26:32 PM
O'Mara on TV now - he is already using the media.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: tupelohoney on April 11, 2012, 07:49:54 PM
Bond hearing tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47023276/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
Zimmerman to plead not guilty to second-degree murder
April 11, 2012

George Zimmerman is in custody in Florida and will be charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, authorities announced Wednesday. His attorney said he would plead not guilty.
 ::snipping2::
Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara — who took the case late Wednesday after Zimmerman's previous attorneys withdrew — said Zimmerman would plead not guilty and that he would seek Zimmerman's release on bond Thursday.

"I think he's troubled by the fact the state decided to charge him," O'Mara said "... I would think anyone charged with second-degree murder would be scared."

Corey said she decided last week to seek the charge but needed several days to make sure all details were in order. She said she had informed Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton.
 ::snipping2::
Corey refused to discuss details of the case, saying she was committed to protecting the interests of both Martin and Zimmerman.

"So much information on this case has gotten released that should never have been released," she said.

Under Florida law, Zimmerman, 28, must be taken before a judge within 24 hours of his return to Seminole County, where he has acknowledged he shot and killed Martin, 17, in the town of Sanford on Feb. 26. Corey wouldn't say where he was being held to protect his safety.
 ::snipping2::
The lack of an arrest or charges had sparked protests nationwide, with critics alleging that Zimmerman confronted Martin because of his race. Zimmerman's supporters deny that.

The decision whether to arrest Zimmerman was delayed for several weeks because Zimmerman had indicated that he would argue self-defense under Florida's so-called Stand Your Ground law, which shields subjects from prosecution if a judge determines that the shooting was justified to protect life or proerty.

Corey called the law "a tough affirmative defense to overcome," but she said, "If 'Stand Your Ground' becomes an issue, we will fight that affirmative defense."

O'Mara, Zimmerman's attorney, told reporters that he didn't think Zimmerman could get a fair hearing "today" because "the emotions are just running high in Central Florida."
 ::snipping2::
A federal civil rights investigation is also under way, but U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that the Justice Department had to meet a "high bar" to bring any charges.

The main federal role is to "support the state in its ongoing investigation," Holder told reporters Wednesday morning in Washington. At the same time, he said, the Justice Department is conducting its "own thorough and parallel investigation" to try to resolve the case "in as fair and complete a way and as quickly as we can."
Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 11, 2012, 08:37:32 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/11/2743345/after-zimmermans-arrest-what-happens.html

Posted on Wednesday, 04.11.12
After Zimmerman’s arrest, what happens next?

•  George Zimmerman faces a charge of second-degree murder with a firearm, a first-degree felony punishable by a minimum of 25 years in prison and up to life behind bars. The charge is a non-bondable offense, which means Zimmerman does not have the immediate right to post bail.

•  He will be booked into a Seminole County jail and should appear Thursday in court for a first hearing and arraignment.

•  Zimmerman will certainly plead not guilty and his defense attorney has said he will ask that his client be allowed to post bond and be released from custody.

•  Within 15 days, prosecutors must start providing Zimmerman’s defense attorney with “discovery,” the first witness statements, police reports and photos that will be used as evidence against him. Most of the evidence will be released to the public and media, although the substance of any of his confessions can be withheld before trial.
::snipping2::
 
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/11/2743345/after-zimmermans-arrest-what-happens.html#storylink=cpy


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 08:48:42 PM
The Real George Zimmerman

I am the real George Zimmerman,
     On Sunday February 26th, I was involved in a life altering event which led me to become the subject of intense media coverage. As a result of the incident and subsequent media coverage, I have been forced to leave my home, my school, my employer, my family and ultimately, my entire life. This website's sole purpose is to ensure my supporters they are receiving my full attention without any intermediaries.

    It has come to my attention that some persons and/or entities have been collecting funds, thinly veiled as my “Defense Fund” or "Legal Fund". I cannot attest to the validity of these other websites as I have not received any funds collected, intended to support my family and I through this trying, tragic time.

    I have created a Paypal account solely linked on this website as I would like to provide an avenue to thank my supporters personally and ensure that any funds provided are used only for living expenses and legal defense, in lieu of my forced inability to maintain employment. I will also personally, maintain accountability of all funds received. I reassure you, every donation is appreciated.
 
Sincerely,
     George Zimmerman
 



Update as of 1:30pm EST on Tuesday, April 10th
     I am attempting to respond to each and everyone of my supporters personally. The support has been overwhelming in volume and strength. I thank you all and ask that you permit me the time to respond to each one of you personally. Once again thank you.
 Sincerely,
 George Zimmerman

http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/Home_Page.php


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 09:05:05 PM
Disclaimer:  I'm posting this, but I'm not certain all of it is true or has been verified.  Maybe as the trial goes on, we can look back and see what's presented as evidence and compare it against the list in the article below. 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hFktGKkvyfqyNnKmKln9OpLukR4g?docId=a2383223771f42938895584616bd8d8f
News Guide: Q&A in the Trayvon Martin shooting
April 11, 2012



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 11, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
Same disclaimer as above, for the article I'm posting here.
Disclaimer:  I'm posting this, but I'm not certain all of it is true or has been verified.  Maybe as the trial goes on, we can look back and see what's presented as evidence and compare it against the list in the article below. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/key-events-in-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-case-in-florida/2012/04/11/gIQACKDUBT_story.html
Key events in the Trayvon Martin shooting case in Florida
April 11, 2012

Some key events involving the Trayvon Martin shooting case:

Feb. 26: Trayvon Martin, 17, is shot and killed during a confrontation with neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, 28, in Sanford, Fla. Martin was returning from a convenience store, and was carrying Skittles and an iced tea.
More...

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MichaelNChicago
7:50 PM CDT
I would like to know why some events are missing from the timeline. When did the black panther group announce the bounty? They also missed the admitted editing of the 911 tape and the firing of the NBC producer.
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gbyron60
7:43 PM CDT
The professionals on both sides will view the case elements as though there were no racial components. For example, as if the shooter and victim were both white Anglo-Saxons, but keeping all other facts the same. The rest of us should try to adopt the same attitude. 
 
Some elements are:
(1) Was Zimmerman walking away from the original encounter, and the youth came back at him. Absent a witness to this part, I don't see the prosecution proving otherwise. (2) When interviewing Zimmerman at the scene, did the police officers examine his head to verify his story about a serious struggle? If so, what were the results? If no exam was made at the scene, was one conducted at the station? The officers will have to explain if no exam was done. (3) Does the State and the defense have qualified voice experts to analyze the voice? Do they agree on whose voice is calling for help? (4) There was blood at the scene and some must be the victim's. What tests if any were done to verify or exclude blood types of the shooter? 
 
Pretrial Discovery will clarify some of the above. Depending on the results, there may not be a trial, but a plea bargain. If a trial, Zimmerman is entitled to an assumption of innocence pending trial, and a solid, professional defense. At this stage, the public can't evaluate on the merits because we do not have the facts. The overwhelming media and public pressure has some weight, but professionals will want to come out with intact reputations.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 11, 2012, 09:29:14 PM
At the link -- Mugshot of Zimmerman from Wednesday; Seminole County Sheriff's Office

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topstories/article/252154/483/Zimmerman-Will-Plead-Not-Guilty-To-Second-Degree-Murder?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Cbc%7Clarge

George Zimmerman Will Plead Not Guilty To Second-Degree Murder in Trayvon Martin's Death
 9:02 PM, Apr 11, 2012   



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 09:32:58 PM
Definition Second Degree Murder in Florida

Second Degree Murder in Florida
 “
 Murder with a Depraved Mind occurs when a person is killed by an act evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life.
 ”-- Richard Hornsby
If accused of Second Degree Murder in Florida, you need to know the:
•Definition of Second Degree Murder
•Penalties for Second Degree Murder
•Defenses to Second Degree Murder  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/homicide/second-degree-murder.html#Definition


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: iluvmua on April 11, 2012, 09:42:33 PM
So can GZ no longer use the SYG law? and can the jury decide that he was acting in self defense or can they only go with 2nd degree murder?



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 09:43:26 PM
If convicted of Second Degree Murder, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 16¾ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:
•Up to Life in prison.
•Up to Life on probation.
•Up to $10,000 in fines.


Wow, just noticed this....


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 11, 2012, 09:43:48 PM
The same folks that didn't want to "judge" Casey Anthony will hang this guy from the nearest tree with the same non-review of evidence that KC received, imo.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 11, 2012, 09:50:51 PM
NBC just interrupted TV with breaking news that there was an arrest in the case! I can't believe it, like this was a President or someone along those lines.

I guess this will be the "case of the century" and will continue to be tried in the court of public opinion and paid pundits.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 11, 2012, 09:54:14 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if GZ isn't murdered in jail within hours.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 10:28:05 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-George-Zimmerman-from-racial-onslaught/111653988888547


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 10:35:27 PM
http://www.sao4th.com/documents/AR-M550N_20120412_053049.pdf

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE EIGHTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
IN AND FOR SEMINOLE COUNTY, FLORIDA
STATE OF FLORIDA ISSUE CAPIAS
VS. CASE NUMBER:
SA NO: 1712F04573
GEORGE ZIMMERMAN
--------------------~/
INFORMATION
COUNT I: MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE
IN THE NAME AND BY AUTHORITY OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, ANGELA B.
COREY, STATE ATTORNEY for the Fourth Judicial Circuit of the State of Florida, pursuant to
Executive Order of the Governor 12-72, and as such Prosecuting Attorney for this Court, through
the undersigned designated Assistant State Attorney, charges that:
COUNT I: IN THE COUNTY OF SEMINOLE, STATE OF FLORIDA, on February 26, 2012,
GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, did unlawfully and by an act imminently dangerous to another, and
evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to
effect the death of any particular individual, kill TRA YVON MARTIN, a human being under the
age of eighteen, by shooting the said victim, and during the commission of the aforementioned
Second Degree Murder, the said GEORGE ZIMMERMAN did carry, display, use, threaten to
use or attempt to use a firearm and did actually possess and discharge a firearm and as a result of
the discharge, death or great bodily harm was inflicted upon any person, contrary to the
provisions of Sections 782.04(2), 775.087(1) and 775.087(2), Florida Statutes.
ANGELA B. COREY
STATE ATTORNEY
I hereby state under oath that I am instituting this prosecution in good faith, and I certify that I
have received testimony under oath from the material witness or witnesses for the offense(s).


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 11, 2012, 10:42:51 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-11/news/os-george-zimmerman-stand-your-ground-hearings-20120411_1_eric-sandhaus-craig-sandhaus-milton-torres
Self-defense hearing could dismiss death charge
Quote
The hearing allows the prosecution and defense to argue all the elements of self-defense in the case evidence. To get charges dismissed, the accused must convince the judge that a reasonable person would believe that using deadly force or the threat of deadly force was the only way to protect his or her life, court records show.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 11, 2012, 10:44:52 PM
So can GZ no longer use the SYG law? and can the jury decide that he was acting in self defense or can they only go with 2nd degree murder?



His lawyer can file a motion.

Quote
•  Once all the evidence has been provided to Zimmerman’s defense team, his lawyer can file a motion for immunity under Florida’s Stand Your Ground self-defense law. A judge must hold an evidentiary hearing and decide by a “preponderance of the evidence” whether Zimmerman was acting in self-defense.

•  If a judge denies his motion for immunity, a date will be set for a trial in front of a jury. Zimmerman’s defense attorney could also ask for a “change of venue,” meaning he could be tried in a different county in Florida if a judge deems pretrial publicity has been so overwhelming that it is impossible for the defendant to get a fair trial. [/unquote]

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/11/2743345/after-zimmermans-arrest-what-happens.html#storylink=cpy


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 11, 2012, 10:46:31 PM
 ::snipping2:: 

What if Zimmerman's story isn't credible? Even then, a conviction is going to be hard to obtain. That's because there are apparently conflicting accounts of witnesses about who was on top in the struggle. That one fact may be enough for Zimmerman. The conflicting accounts make it more likely that a jury will find that prosecutors haven't proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Which eyewitness accounts are believed may depend on the recording of cries of help -- and on whether the judge allowed experts to testify about whose voice, Martin or Zimmerman's, is heard screaming.

The Stand Your Ground law won't likely offer Zimmerman much of a defense in this case, but nevertheless may still be relevant. In particular, the law offers Zimmerman the possibility of avoiding a trial. The real impact of Stand Your Ground laws is not in their expansion of the right of self-defense to the public streets -- many states, including my own liberal state of California, have allowed people to stand their ground for decades. The innovation of Stand Your Ground laws is to establish procedures to reduce the likelihood that a person who kills in self-defense ever has to stand trial.

Traditionally, one claiming self-defense would have the opportunity to raise that defense at trial before a jury. In Florida, however, the Stand Your Ground law gives defendants like Zimmerman the right to a pre-trial hearing to challenge his indictment. At this special pre-trial hearing, which will occur long before any jury trial, Zimmerman will have the opportunity to present evidence to a judge showing he acted in self-defense. If he can show that he was acting in self-defense by a "preponderance of the evidence" -- legalese for "it's more likely than not" -- then the charges against him will be dropped and he'll never face a jury. That burden of proof is not very demanding and requires a showing far less demanding than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" test used in criminal trials ordinarily.  ::snipping2:: 


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/will-george-zimmerman-be_b_1419030.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 11, 2012, 11:02:59 PM
Angela Corey clearly states the State is prepared to argue that Zimmerman was not in a 'Stand Your Ground' scenario.  This tells me she has evidence to support that, possibly in the form of multiple witnesses and/or forensics.

At least now the murder of Trayvon Martin will be thoroughly investigated and tried in a court of law.  IMO, Corey has made the right decision irregardless of public opinion or skin color.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: grace-land on April 12, 2012, 12:23:41 AM
I don't remember reading this article.  It might have been posted earlier--sorry.  Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1221036.ece

Definitions of race cloud case of black teen's shooting
By Michael Kruse, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Wednesday, March 21, 2012

Trayvon Martin was black.

George Zimmerman, the 28-year-old who shot and killed the 17-year-old late last month in Sanford, is … what?

He has been described by the many different news organizations covering the case in a variety of different ways: white, Hispanic, white and Hispanic. All true. The most recent assessment from the Associated Press? Police call him white. His family says he's Hispanic. Again, not wrong.

In a written statement to the Orlando Sentinel, Zimmerman's father sought to accentuate his son's Hispanic ethnicity: "George is a Spanish speaking minority with many black family members and friends. He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever."

The first sentence doesn't necessarily lead to the second, of course, but this declaration from the family is important. Why? Quick explainer: "Hispanic" is not a race. It's not an option in the race question in the census. It's an ethnicity question. And the census says you're Hispanic if you say you are.

The Pew Hispanic Center in Washington works the same way. "If you self-identify as Hispanic," associate director Mark Hugo Lopez said Tuesday, "we identify you as Hispanic."

George Zimmerman has a white father and a Hispanic mother. He calls himself Hispanic on his driver's license. He calls himself Hispanic on his voter registration card. He married a white woman.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 12, 2012, 01:30:15 AM
From the 2010 census questionaire:



(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w402/jamcakestoo/census.jpg)

http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-02.pdf







Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 12, 2012, 01:41:30 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/11/opinion/hostin-trayvon-martin-jury/index.html

 ::snipping2::

Three witnesses saw Zimmerman straddling Martin in the grass. The incident happens 70 yards from the home Martin was walking to, not near Zimmerman's SUV. Martin is found dead, laying on his stomach. Zimmerman is bleeding from his nose and the back of his head and has stains on the back of his jacket. Zimmerman isn't tested for drug or alcohol consumption and is allowed to leave the police station with the clothes he was wearing that night.

 ::snipping2::


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

70 yards from Trayvon's father's fiancee's house.......

Why did Trayvon's family not know about a shooting occurring less than a football field's length away from their home?

When did Trayvon's family report him missing?  When did they notice he didn't return from the store and when did they become concerned enough to search for him?  Did they talk to the neighbors at all?

Why did Trayvon lie in the morgue for 3 days unclaimed (as reported)?

Something doesn't seem to add up!

::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: kcrn on April 12, 2012, 06:59:57 AM
::snipping2:: 

What if Zimmerman's story isn't credible? Even then, a conviction is going to be hard to obtain. That's because there are apparently conflicting accounts of witnesses about who was on top in the struggle. That one fact may be enough for Zimmerman. The conflicting accounts make it more likely that a jury will find that prosecutors haven't proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Which eyewitness accounts are believed may depend on the recording of cries of help -- and on whether the judge allowed experts to testify about whose voice, Martin or Zimmerman's, is heard screaming.

The Stand Your Ground law won't likely offer Zimmerman much of a defense in this case, but nevertheless may still be relevant. In particular, the law offers Zimmerman the possibility of avoiding a trial. The real impact of Stand Your Ground laws is not in their expansion of the right of self-defense to the public streets -- many states, including my own liberal state of California, have allowed people to stand their ground for decades. The innovation of Stand Your Ground laws is to establish procedures to reduce the likelihood that a person who kills in self-defense ever has to stand trial.

Traditionally, one claiming self-defense would have the opportunity to raise that defense at trial before a jury. In Florida, however, the Stand Your Ground law gives defendants like Zimmerman the right to a pre-trial hearing to challenge his indictment. At this special pre-trial hearing, which will occur long before any jury trial, Zimmerman will have the opportunity to present evidence to a judge showing he acted in self-defense. If he can show that he was acting in self-defense by a "preponderance of the evidence" -- legalese for "it's more likely than not" -- then the charges against him will be dropped and he'll never face a jury. That burden of proof is not very demanding and requires a showing far less demanding than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" test used in criminal trials ordinarily.  ::snipping2:: 


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/will-george-zimmerman-be_b_1419030.html
imo a jury will probably be afraid not to convict. Its sad that the evidence may end up proving otherwise but i think thats what will happen. This case has become a race war imo.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 12, 2012, 07:07:53 AM
I can't seem to find anything about Trayvon Martin, was he ever in trouble? was he a good kid anyone know


He was suspended from school.  Something about Marijuana.  Not an angel, IMO. 


Kid’s would drink Vanilla extract for a high, in the 1940’s.
Can you imagine getting frisked for empty bottle of Vanilla extract?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 12, 2012, 08:08:30 AM
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/george-zimmerman-trademark-filing-561243

April 10, 2012 Businessman Seeks George Zimmerman Trademarks For Beer Mugs, Bumper Stickers, Aloha Shirts

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 08:11:54 AM
GZ will not get a fair trial IMO...citizens will not want to serve on the jury for fear of backlash to them...otherwise GZ will be executed in jail...



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: seahorse on April 12, 2012, 08:30:22 AM
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=1613

Good comments & Links.  IMO

::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 09:01:55 AM
I can't seem to find anything about Trayvon Martin, was he ever in trouble? was he a good kid anyone know


He was suspended from school.  Something about Marijuana.  Not an angel, IMO. 


Kid’s would drink Vanilla extract for a high, in the 1940’s.
Can you imagine getting frisked for empty bottle of Vanilla extract?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Vanilla extract wasn't & isn't an illegal substance, where marijuana is.   There's a big difference between the two, aren't there?  And most 17 year olds know they can get in trouble having pot or them, sometimes even just a bit.  So no, I don't believe that's really a good comparison. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 10:20:56 AM
Trayvon Martin’s mother Sybrina Fulton told the TODAY show Thursday that she believes her son’s fatal shooting by George Zimmerman was an accident.

“I believe it was an accident, I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn’t turn the clock back," she said. "I would ask him, 'Did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager and that he did not have a weapon?'” she added.  ::snipping2::

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/12/11159111-trayvon-martins-mom-says-she-thinks-his-killing-was-an-accident?lite


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Blonde on April 12, 2012, 10:38:14 AM
I can't seem to find anything about Trayvon Martin, was he ever in trouble? was he a good kid anyone know


He was suspended from school.  Something about Marijuana.  Not an angel, IMO. 


Kid’s would drink Vanilla extract for a high, in the 1940’s.
Can you imagine getting frisked for empty bottle of Vanilla extract?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Vanilla extract wasn't & isn't an illegal substance, where marijuana is.   There's a big difference between the two, aren't there?  And most 17 year olds know they can get in trouble having pot or them, sometimes even just a bit.  So no, I don't believe that's really a good comparison. 

I bought a kit to make my own Vanilla extract, it gave me a one whole Vanilla bean a nice bottle then it say to fill with Vodka ::MonkeyShocked::
I just never knew that was what they used.. I didn't make it..


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 10:45:01 AM
I can't seem to find anything about Trayvon Martin, was he ever in trouble? was he a good kid anyone know


He was suspended from school.  Something about Marijuana.  Not an angel, IMO. 


Kid’s would drink Vanilla extract for a high, in the 1940’s.
Can you imagine getting frisked for empty bottle of Vanilla extract?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Vanilla extract wasn't & isn't an illegal substance, where marijuana is.   There's a big difference between the two, aren't there?  And most 17 year olds know they can get in trouble having pot or them, sometimes even just a bit.  So no, I don't believe that's really a good comparison. 

I bought a kit to make my own Vanilla extract, it gave me a one whole Vanilla bean a nice bottle then it say to fill with Vodka ::MonkeyShocked::
I just never knew that was what they used.. I didn't make it..


 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Homemade Vanilla extract is wonderful!   ::rhino:: But the thing I was pointing out here is the possible drug involvement   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 10:51:06 AM
Using Norml's website  ::MonkeyTongue::  http://norml.org/laws/penalties/item/florida-penalties
Mandatory Minimum Sentences:

Offense    Penalty    Incarceration      Max. Fine  
Possession

20 grams or less    misdemeanor    1 year    $ 1,000
More than 20 grams    felony    5 years    $ 5,000
25 plants    felony    15 years    $ 10,000
Sale
20 grams or less without remuneration    misdemeanor    1 year    $ 10,000
25 lbs or less    felony    5 years    $ 5,000
25 - 2000 lbs (or 300-2,000 plants)    felony    3* - 15 years    $ 25,000
2000 - 10,000 lbs (or 2000-10,000 plants)    felony    7* - 30 years    $ 50,000
10,000 lbs or more    felony    15* - 30 years    $ 200,000
Within 1000 feet of a school, college, park, or other specified areas    felony    15 years    $ 10,000
* Mandatory minimum sentence
Paraphernalia
Possession of paraphernalia    misdemeanor    15 years    $ 1,000
Miscellaneous
Conviction causes a driver’s license suspension for a period of 2 years
Penalty Details
Possession

Possession of 20 grams or less is a misdemeanor punishable by a maximum sentence of 1 year imprisonment and a maximum fine of $1,000.

Possession of more than 20 grams is a felony punishable by a maximum sentence of 5 years imprisonment and a maximum fine of $5,000.

Possession of 25 plants is a felony punishable by a maximum sentence of 15 years in jail and a fine of $10,000.

Please see:

    Florida Criminal Code 893.13 Web Search
    Florida Criminal Code § 893.03(c)(35) Web Search
    Florida Criminal Code § 893.13 Web Search
    Florida Criminal Code § 775.082(a) Web Search


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 10:51:49 AM
Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’

 ::snipping2::  "My personal feeling is that, as a young kid that was beat on by a bully, that was pretty much singled out—the guy [Zimmerman] stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid.' That tells you everything right there. But my all-around perspective, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. But it's just so widespread and overt what happened. Even though this is the best country in the world, certain laws in this country are a disgrace to a nation of savages. It's a majority versus a minority. That's the way God planned it. He didn't want to do something about it, He wanted us to do something about it. And if we don't, it's gonna stay this way. We have to continue tweeting, we have to continue marching, we have to continue fighting for Trayvon Martin. If that's not the case, he was killed in vain, and we're just waiting for it to happen to our children. He'll have gotten away with impunity. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace. That's how I feel personally about it."   ::snipping2:: 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 10:54:18 AM
Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’

 ::snipping2::  "My personal feeling is that, as a young kid that was beat on by a bully, that was pretty much singled out—the guy [Zimmerman] stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid.' That tells you everything right there. But my all-around perspective, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. But it's just so widespread and overt what happened. Even though this is the best country in the world, certain laws in this country are a disgrace to a nation of savages. It's a majority versus a minority. That's the way God planned it. He didn't want to do something about it, He wanted us to do something about it. And if we don't, it's gonna stay this way. We have to continue tweeting, we have to continue marching, we have to continue fighting for Trayvon Martin. If that's not the case, he was killed in vain, and we're just waiting for it to happen to our children. He'll have gotten away with impunity. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace. That's how I feel personally about it."   ::snipping2:: 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 11:16:40 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/12/justice/florida-teen-shooting/?hpt=ju_c2
George Zimmerman's attorney to ask for bail
By Chelsea J. Carter, CNN
April 12, 2012

(CNN) -- The attorney for George Zimmerman plans to ask a judge as early as Thursday to allow the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing an unarmed, black teen to post bond -- though he believes it will be difficult.

"My hope is that the judge will grant a bond, and that it'll be a bond that the family can make," attorney Mark O'Mara said Wednesday. "They are not a family of means."

Also, if a judge requires Zimmerman to remain in the area if he is granted bail, that will be difficult, O'Mara added.

"I think nobody would deny the fact if George Zimmerman is walking down the street today, he would be at risk," he explained.

However, O'Mara said Thursday he is "truly hoping that there will be a receding of the frustrations or anger now that the process is moving forward."
 ::snipping2::
He will make an initial court appearance Thursday before Judge Mark Herr.
 ::snipping2::
O'Mara said Zimmerman, who will plead not guilty, is worried about getting a fair trial in Sanford -- where thousands have converged to join in protests calling for his arrest and decrying the police department's handling of the case.

However, the attorney said Thursday he does not share those concerns.

"Florida has a very good process in place to make sure we get a fair and impartial jury," he told CNN. "Other high-profile cases have been able to do so. I trust that the system, the judge, the prosecutor and I will be able to, should the need arise, to get ourselves a fair and impartial jury to hear the case. It may not be in Seminole County."

He said that while he isn't sure the bond request will be heard Thursday, he needs Zimmerman out of jail to help assist in his defense.
 ::snipping2::
Why second-degree murder

The special prosecutor assigned to the case announced the charge against Zimmerman Wednesday -- 46 days after the shooting.

During that time, the calls for "Justice for Trayvon" had grown louder and louder, with Martin's supporters taking to the streets in cities across the nation and on the Internet.

Prosecutor Angela Corey said whether the case is decided by a judge or jury, "I can assure they will only get the relevant, admissible evidence on which they can then base their decisions."

"Let me emphasize that we do not prosecute by pressure or petition. We prosecute cases based on the relevant fact of each case and on the laws of the state of Florida," said Corey, who has a reputation for taking on tough, controversial cases in the three counties that make up the 4th Judicial Circuit.

Prosecutors usually level a second-degree murder charge when they accuse someone of a killing that is not premeditated or planned. It carries a maximum sentence of life in prison.

In severity, the charge falls between first-degree -- when a person is accused of killing someone deliberately -- and manslaughter, when an act results in an unintended death.

"I did think that was certainly the highest charge I ever thought they would charge," O'Mara said. "It seemed like it might be manslaughter, but ... I don't want to prejudge something when I know nothing about the facts. I would rather that come out the way it's supposed to."
 ::snipping2::
Jurors, however, will have several options under Florida law, including aggravating factors such as Martin's status as a child, since he was under 18, or other variations of manslaughter, Jackson said.
 ::snipping2::
Zimmerman was alone Wednesday when he turned himself in to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's office in Jacksonville, said department spokeswoman Joyce Dawley.

O'Mara said Thursday he spoke to Zimmerman by telephone several times during the day Wednesday and spent about an hour with his client Wednesday night.

"He is stressed. He's tired. He's been through a lot with the way this case has been handled to date," he said of Zimmerman.

"I'm just hoping that his mental health stays well and we can move forward with getting the case figured out."

George Zimmerman's brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr., told CNN's "Piers Morgan Tonight" that the family was "devastated" by the development.

"There were no winners in this already," the brother said.
 ::snipping2::
O'Mara asked there be no rush to judgment.

"Nobody, after all, wanted Trayvon Martin to be pre-judged as he was walking down that street," he said. "I ask you not to pre-judge George Zimmerman, and please do not pre-judge the criminal justice system. It's going to work. We just need to let it work."

O'Mara told CNN and sister network HLN on Thursday he expects it will take at least six months, and possibly as long as a year, before the trial is held. But, he said, that's speculation, since he hasn't had an opportunity to review evidence in the case yet.
 ::snipping2::
Meanwhile, Attorney General Eric Holder pledged Wednesday that the Justice Department, which is running a concurrent investigation launched three weeks ago, will "conduct a thorough and independent review of the evidence."
 ::snipping2::
Zahra Umansky, an attorney who represented Zimmerman on 2005 charges of assaulting an officer and resisting arrest after an incident in a local bar -- charges which were later dismissed -- recalled he was actively involved in his defense, more so than other youths at that age might be. "He was very concerned," she said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: kcrn on April 12, 2012, 11:19:39 AM
Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’

 ::snipping2::  "My personal feeling is that, as a young kid that was beat on by a bully, that was pretty much singled out—the guy [Zimmerman] stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid.' That tells you everything right there. But my all-around perspective, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. But it's just so widespread and overt what happened. Even though this is the best country in the world, certain laws in this country are a disgrace to a nation of savages. It's a majority versus a minority. That's the way God planned it. He didn't want to do something about it, He wanted us to do something about it. And if we don't, it's gonna stay this way. We have to continue tweeting, we have to continue marching, we have to continue fighting for Trayvon Martin. If that's not the case, he was killed in vain, and we're just waiting for it to happen to our children. He'll have gotten away with impunity. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace. That's how I feel personally about it."   ::snipping2:: 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
all u have to do is look at the source on that one. Savages? Maybe gz should have just bitten his ear off? Mike tyson is a disgrace to humanity. He should just stay in his hole & stfu.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 12, 2012, 11:23:12 AM
Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’

 ::snipping2::  "My personal feeling is that, as a young kid that was beat on by a bully, that was pretty much singled out—the guy [Zimmerman] stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid.' That tells you everything right there. But my all-around perspective, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. But it's just so widespread and overt what happened. Even though this is the best country in the world, certain laws in this country are a disgrace to a nation of savages. It's a majority versus a minority. That's the way God planned it. He didn't want to do something about it, He wanted us to do something about it. And if we don't, it's gonna stay this way. We have to continue tweeting, we have to continue marching, we have to continue fighting for Trayvon Martin. If that's not the case, he was killed in vain, and we're just waiting for it to happen to our children. He'll have gotten away with impunity. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace. That's how I feel personally about it."   ::snipping2:: 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html
Wait a sec...isn't this the same guy that beats women and bites off ears when he's losing????


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 12, 2012, 11:34:32 AM
Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’

 ::snipping2::  "My personal feeling is that, as a young kid that was beat on by a bully, that was pretty much singled out—the guy [Zimmerman] stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid.' That tells you everything right there. But my all-around perspective, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. But it's just so widespread and overt what happened. Even though this is the best country in the world, certain laws in this country are a disgrace to a nation of savages. It's a majority versus a minority. That's the way God planned it. He didn't want to do something about it, He wanted us to do something about it. And if we don't, it's gonna stay this way. We have to continue tweeting, we have to continue marching, we have to continue fighting for Trayvon Martin. If that's not the case, he was killed in vain, and we're just waiting for it to happen to our children. He'll have gotten away with impunity. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace. That's how I feel personally about it."   ::snipping2:: 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html
Wait a sec...isn't this the same guy that beats women and bites off ears when he's losing????

EXACTLY...his words mean nothing!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: KittyMom on April 12, 2012, 11:40:49 AM
Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’

 ::snipping2::  "My personal feeling is that, as a young kid that was beat on by a bully, that was pretty much singled out—the guy [Zimmerman] stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid.' That tells you everything right there. But my all-around perspective, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. But it's just so widespread and overt what happened. Even though this is the best country in the world, certain laws in this country are a disgrace to a nation of savages. It's a majority versus a minority. That's the way God planned it. He didn't want to do something about it, He wanted us to do something about it. And if we don't, it's gonna stay this way. We have to continue tweeting, we have to continue marching, we have to continue fighting for Trayvon Martin. If that's not the case, he was killed in vain, and we're just waiting for it to happen to our children. He'll have gotten away with impunity. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace. That's how I feel personally about it."   ::snipping2:: 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html
Wait a sec...isn't this the same guy that beats women and bites off ears when he's losing????

EXACTLY...his words mean nothing!
Well, to someone with his mentality it means that person would be a hero in the eyes of MT if he takes out GZ.  So, imo, this is the same as TNBP group putting a bounty on GZ's head.  Sooner or later some hate-filled idiot will act on words like this.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 12:01:03 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lawyer-mark-o-mara-seasoned-criminal-defense-attorney-media-bias-casey-anthony-case-article-1.1060337?localLinksEnabled=false
George Zimmerman’s lawyer Mark O’Mara is seasoned criminal defense attorney, TV legal analyst
Lawyer worked as legal analyst for local Florida station; familiar face during Casey Anthony trial

April 12, 2012

George Zimmerman's fight against serving life in prison will be led by an experienced defense attorney whose face has been all over Florida TV talking about Trayvon Martin’s killing and before that, the Casey Anthony trial.

Mark O'Mara will appear in court to represent Zimmerman on Thursday afternoon when the neighborhood watchman pleads not guilty to second-degree murder charges.

O'Mara told CNN Wednesday night he was surprised special prosecutor Angela Corey charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder for shooting Martin on Feb. 26.

O'Mara, who has had less than 24 hours to get up to speed on the case, said, "That type of crime sort of suggests that he did something truly unlawful ...

And I think the evidence so far suggests there was at least question and controversy over what happened."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 12:05:10 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2012/04/12/case-against-george-zimmerman-whats-next-after-charges
The case against George Zimmerman: What's next after charges?
By Sean Hannity
April 11, 2012

    This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," April 11, 2012. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.


    SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And this is a Fox News alert. You are looking at brand new video of George Zimmerman arriving at the Sanford Police Station in Florida. Now he can be seen exiting from a black SUV with his head and his face covered. His arrival happened just a short time ago. And these are the first images of him that we have seen since the police released surveillance video inside the station the night of Trayvon shooting.

    Now, here's a look at the booking photo that was processed right after his arrival. And also, brand new tonight, 45 days after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder. Now, the special prosecutor for the case held a press conference earlier this evening announcing the charges. Let's take a look at this.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    ANGELA COREY, PROSECUTOR: Let me emphasize that we do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition. We prosecute based on the facts of any given case, as well as the laws of the state of Florida. Today we filed an information charging George Zimmerman with murder in the second degree. A capias has been issued for his arrest. With the filing of that information and the issuance of the capias, he will have the right to appear in front of the magistrate in Seminole County within 24 hours of his arrest and thus formal prosecution will begin.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    HANNITY: Now, after he was charged, the Martin family, they responded.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    SYBRINA FULTON, MOTHER OF TRAYVON MARTIN: First of all, I want to say thank God.

    (APPLAUSE)

    We simply wanted an arrest. We wanted nothing more, nothing less. We just wanted an arrest and we got it. And I say thank you. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus.

    Secondly, I just want to speak from my heart to your heart because a heart has no color. It's not black, it's not white. It's red. And I want to say thank you from my heart to your heart.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    HANNITY: Now, shortly after Zimmerman's newly-hired Attorney Mark O'Mara held a press conference where he told reporters that he was not concerned about Zimmerman's mental state, and that his client will plead not guilty to the charge.

    Joining me now with the very latest, Fox 35 reporter Shannon Butler, criminal defense Attorney Rebecca Rose Woodland and also joining us prosecutor Anna-Sigga Nicolazzi. Did I get it right?

    ANNA-SIGGA NICOLAZZI, PROSECUTOR: Yes.

    HANNITY: Finally, I did it, amazing.

More... (2 pg transcript) 
Video at Link
   

 

 
 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 12:06:34 PM
Casey Anthony’s lawyer: George Zimmerman’s a victim of prosecutor's ‘political prostitution’



Cheney Mason, the freewheeling criminal defense attorney who successfully defended tot mom Casey Anthony, is shaking his head over the second-degree murder charge against George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

The charge leveled by prosecutor Angela Corey is too severe and reeks of political calculus, Mason said.

“It’s political prostitution,” Mason said. “Now I don’t have all the facts – no one does – but you look at what we know of the case and it looks like the prosecutor bowed to other pressures.

“The fact is there is lots of racial bigotry in this case,” Mason said. “And a lot of it is coming from the side of Trayvon Martin’s family. I can understand why his family is upset. They lost a child. But they weren’t at the crime scene. None of us was.”  ::snipping2:: 

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/casey-anthonys-lawyer-george-zimmermans-a-victim-of-prosecutors-political-prostitution.html#storylink=cpy


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 12:32:39 PM
Trayvon Martin’s Dad Wants to Hear ‘Truth’ from George Zimmerman

As George Zimmerman sits in a Florida jail cell awaiting his first court appearance on charges of second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, the teen’s father says he has one question for the man who has admitted to shooting his 17-year-old son.
 
“The truth.  I just want to hear the truth from him,” Tracy Martin said today on “Good Morning America.”  “I would ask him, why Trayvon, and why couldn’t he have just stayed in his vehicle like the dispatcher instructed him to do."   ::snipping2:: 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/04/trayvon-martins-dad-reveals-wants-to-hear-truth-from-george-zimmerman/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304356604577339693485874760.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
George Zimmerman to Appear in Court
April 12, 2012

JACKSONVILLE, Fla.—George Zimmerman, who was charged with second-degree murder in the fatal February shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, is expected to make his first court appearance Thursday.

Mr. Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara said at a news conference Wednesday that his client would plead not guilty and was "troubled by everything that has happened."
 ::snipping2::
Mr. Zimmerman was booked into a correctional facility Wednesday night in Sanford, Fla. The court appearance is scheduled for 1:30 p.m. EDT Thursday.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 12:38:55 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5heLdqFJicYjEpktxhARt1JNobCrw?docId=3478dc00dece49b284c142cdaa7be9d2
Prosecutors face hurdles in Trayvon Martin case
By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press
April 12, 2012

(http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/media/ALeqM5jcd05cxQbZQPuRhJlGDcbJ389yug?docId=f9feb1a29f114c22b62950f5b5b17e9b&size=s2)
This Wednesday, April 11, 2012 booking photo provided by the Sanford Police Department shows George Zimmerman. Zimmerman, 28, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder Wednesday after weeks of mounting tensions and protests across the country. His attorney, Mark O'Mara, said his client would plead not guilty. (AP Photo/Sanford Police Department)



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 12:53:38 PM
Mom of dead Fla. teen clarifies 'accident' remark

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- Trayvon Martin's mother says the encounter between her son and a neighborhood watch volunteer was an accident, not the shooting that left her 17-year-old son dead.

Sybrina Fulton clarified her remarks Thursday to The Associated Press after she referred to what happened to her son on NBC's "Today" show as an accident.

Some viewers interpreted her remark to mean she was referring to the shooting, but she says that isn't what she meant. She says the encounter between Martin and George Zimmerman was the accident.   ::snipping2:: 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEIGHBORHOOD_WATCH_MOTHER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-12-12-16-23


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
An interesting comment from a New Yorker article:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/04/chasing-george-zimmerman.html?mbid=gnep&google_editors_picks=true
Charging George Zimmerman
April 11, 2012

“I will confirm that Mr. Zimmerman is indeed in custody,” Angela Corey, the special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case, said at a press conference on Wednesday night. She said that she had started the process of charging George Zimmerman with second-degree murder, and that before stepping up to the microphone she had spoken to “those sweet parents”—Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin—and told them what she was doing to get “justice for Trayvon.” The first time she met them, she said, they had prayed together, but she told them she couldn’t promise anything. This evening, she helped to deliver them some compensation for their tenacity and love in pursuing the case, if not—and this would have been impossible—for the loss of their son.

“Let me emphasize that we do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition,” or in the media, Corey said. And yet one has to wonder if Florida would have managed this without those factors.
 ::snipping2::


Comments:

I am disturbed by the prosecutor's behavior. Ms. Corey is a prosecutor who is more interested in making the long-suffering parents - those sweet people - happy than being a dispassionate attorney. Her duty is to evaluate the facts and evidence fairly and determine what is in the best interest of justice. Praying with the family? This should be about making rational decisions and not becoming an advocate for the family. Any good prosecutor knows that your job is not tied up with what the victim (or, in this case, the victim's family) wants, it's about making the community safe and seeing that people are held accountable for their crimes. If prosecutors focus on vicitm's wants solely, thousands of domestic violence cases would be dropped because the victim has changed their mind and wants the abuser back in the home. In my many years as a criminal defense attorney, I've learned to respect prosecutors who use their own discretion. Outside pressures, the demands of the community, or a personal stake in a criminal matter have no place in a truly fair system of justice. I certainly acknowledge that victims can and should be heard by the Court, but only after the prosecution has fulfilled its proper role. I do not mean to take anything away from the parents' and community's important and proper role in insisting that this case be fully investigated and fairly evaluated by the State's Attorney's office. Our criminal justice system can only work when the prosecution pursues its role of prosecuting cases as a duty to enforce the laws of the state, not out of a personal relationship with the victims. I'm pleased that this case is finally being properly investigated and looked at as a serious crime that warrants prosecution. Here, Ms. Corey is unprofessionally too close to the victims and not able to take that important step back to decide what must be done to ensure that she do what she must do to ensure a rational and fair prosecution of this case.
Posted 4/12/2012, 4:18:07am by DGZ


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 01:05:11 PM
Oh lawdy me.  Judge Belvin Perry  ::MonkeyNoNo::  He let the defense team basically help Casey get away with murder imo. JMHO
Self edit to add, Judge Perry was so concerned about a mistrial, he allowed all kinds of shenanigans.  JMHO

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/169759/special-prosecutor-in-trayvon-martin-case-the-media-has-helped/
Special prosecutor in Trayvon Martin case: ‘The media has helped’
By Julie Moos
April 12, 2012

lorida State Attorney and special prosecutor Angela Corey praised journalists during the news conference in which she announced that George Zimmerman has been charged with murder in the second degree for the February 26th shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

“It is regrettable that so many facts and details got released and misconstrued,” Corey said Wednesday evening. “But we hope that — and the media has helped, toning it down a lot and making sure that people understand Florida law and the process. And we hope that people will continue to do that.”

On CNN, legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin noted that Florida’s Sunshine laws mean cameras in the courtroom for Zimmerman’s trial.

“This trial will be a trial by television,” Toobin said.
The judge assigned the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case is likely to call Judge Perry, said lawyer Alison Steele, who represents the Poynter Institute and the Tampa Bay Times. Steele agrees with Perry that there are some cases “that devolve into theater, where people punch it up like they punch up ‘Dancing with the Stars.’ ” But that is no reason to restrict the public’s access to the trial, which requires cameras in the courtroom.
 ::snipping2::
“This is an incredibly important case to Florida. It’s an incredibly important case to the nation,” Steele said by phone Wednesday night. “It’s important that it’s happening in a state that has such broad Sunshine rules. There are people who are not watching this as entertainment. They’re watching it to find out what’s going on in our judicial system. Is everyone behaving? Is everyone performing their jobs in a way that the people they serve — and that’s us, the public — approve of?”
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 01:09:35 PM
La Raza President: Blacks, Hispanics Should Team Up Against 'Common Enemies'

READY FOR WAR?

La Raza Head Advocates Black-Hispanic 'Attack' Force

Just in case tensions weren't high enough in the Trayvon Martin case, the head of a controversial Hispanic group appears happy to pour gasoline on the fire.

Calling for an African-American-Hispanic alliance against "common enemies", La Raza President Janet Murguia used Wednesday's Al Sharpton radio show to spread an incendiary message of hate. Happy to conveniently overlook George Zimmerman's Peruvian ancestry, Murguia made her divisive agenda abundantly clear.

Though her organization claims mainstream status, its name translates to "The Race" and is always happy to aid campus radicalism.

Amazingly, sitting in for the Reverend (himself busy spreading racial arson across the land) was Andre Eggelletion, the same host recently behind a successful campaign to suspend KFI's John & Ken for wisecracks about Whitney Houston after her recent death. Isn't brazenly planning a race war over public airwaves far more inappropriate than calling the late singer a "crack ho"?

Below, watch as the La Raza president and Sharpton crony casually toss words like "attack" and "enemies" into the conversation:   ::snipping2:: 




http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2012/04/la-raza-president-time-for-blacks.html



JANET MURGUIA (PRESIDENT, LA RAZA) (36:39): I think for us it’s about understanding that we have common interests and we have to be able to understand that our demographics today, a lot of people want to pit who’s the largest minority vs. who’s taking over as the largest demographic and all that.

We need to understand that when you put those two demographics together you know when you put sixteen percent of the Latino population now in the US combined with fourteen percent of the African American population is what can we do together now to attack those common enemies? To attack the common barriers that present themselves for us.


When violence results, will these extremists take responsibility, or continue to deflect blame everywhere else? Who will be hurt or killed thanks to their reckless rhetoric?






Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 01:12:22 PM
It's really sad there are those that are using this case to further their own selfish agenda.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  I feel like we're headed back to the darker era of U.S. history. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 01:14:59 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0411/Trayvon-Martin-case-reveals-confusion-over-how-Stand-Your-Ground-works
Trayvon Martin case reveals confusion over how Stand Your Ground works
In the wake of the Trayvon Martin tragedy, as well as the rampage last week in Oklahoma, some critics are now wondering whether Stand Your Ground has created a legal no man’s land.
April 11, 2012



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 01:47:59 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/04/george-zimmerman-to-enter-not-guilty-plea-in-court-hearing-today/1
Zimmerman appears briefly at first court hearing
April 12, 2012

Neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman made his first court appearance today in Florida since he was arrested and charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin, the Associated Press reports.

Update at 1:38 p.m. ET: He is joined by his laywer Mark O'Mara. The judge says the next court hearing will be May 29. Zimmerman said nothing during the brief hearing.

Update at 1:36 p.m. ET: The hearing has opened, with Zimmerman arriving wearing dark jail clothing.
 ::snipping2::
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 01:50:42 PM
I heard Trayvon's mother's remarks this morning and she was very clear in my opinion that she thought that the 'shooting' was an accident. Now she is back pedaling and I think that it is because her attorney or Al Sharpton or Jessie got on her or what she said. I was shocked when I heard what she said because my thoughts were, wow, that is oing to help the defense! She said it and ow she is trying to unring the bell IMO...

Mike Tyson is a total idiot with a very low IQ for the remarks that he made..however someone else who considers Tyson a role model will try to take matters into their own hands..reverse discrimination/racism is not except able either.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/orlandosentinel (https://twitter.com/#!/orlandosentinel)

Orlando Sentinel ‏ @orlandosentinel
RT @KevinInOrlando: #zimmerman returns to jail after appearing befoere judge -- Next hearing May 29 http://bit.ly/HzFGPj (http://bit.ly/HzFGPj)
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RT @ahernandez_OS: special prosecutor #angelacorey just entered the jail. #georgezimmerman http://lockerz.com/s/200722519  (http://lockerz.com/s/200722519)#trayvonmartin
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Both the prosecutor & #georgezimmerman's attorney Omara walked in at the same time to a stew of photographers and reporters. #trayvonmartin
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 01:52:08 PM
Sorry for typos above..^^^^^ darn iPad has a mind of it's own sometimes.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 01:52:39 PM
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg told The Daily Caller that he is outraged that TheDC would bother to ask a question regarding the $10,000 “dead or alive” bounty that the New Black Panther Party has issued for George Zimmerman.
 
Bloomberg spoke at the National Press Club Wednesday about the Trayvon Martin case and “stand your ground” laws and became visibly upset when TheDC asked him about the bounty on Zimmerman.
 
“I don’t know that to be the case,” Bloomberg retorted about the bounty. “Anybody who puts a bounty on somebody else’s life is acting totally inappropriately. I’m sure it’s illegal, must be illegal. I’m outraged to even be asked the question. Whadya think?”
 
“I didn’t even know about it until you just told me, thank you very much,” he said angrily. “I appreciate the information. Now I’ve said my piece, okay?”
 
Zimmerman “was a man with a history of violence,” Bloomberg said in prepared remarks. “I can tell you in New York we would never allow such an individual to carry a gun and neither would many other states.”
 
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/11/bloomberg-flips-out-after-thedc-asks-question-about-bounty-on-zimmerman-video/#ixzz1rqiw8Jos


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 01:54:58 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-12/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-charged-jail-20120412_1_face-murder-charges-today-show-accident
George Zimmerman first appearance ends, judge agrees to seal witness information
April 12, 2012

George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer arrested yesterday in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, faced a judge for the first time minutes ago.

Zimmerman's first appearance began just after 1:30 p.m. He faces a second-degree murder charge in the Feb. 26 shooting, which sparked international outcry.

Zimmerman appeared in a blue jumpsuit and handcuffs. He was joined by his new attorney, Mark O'Mara. A first-appearance judge found probable cause for the murder charge.

The judge set Zimmerman's next court date for May 29 at 1:30 p.m. Zimmerman spoke only once during the hearing, responding "yes sir" to a question.

After Zimmerman exited, O'Mara asked the judge to seal documents in the court file containing other information -- including witness statements and information -- in the case.

"I am seeking on my clients behalf... that we do a complete sealing of that record," O'Mara said, adding that the sealing would be temporary. The judge agreed.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sunshine12 on April 12, 2012, 01:57:32 PM
Casey Anthony’s lawyer: George Zimmerman’s a victim of prosecutor's ‘political prostitution’



Cheney Mason, the freewheeling criminal defense attorney who successfully defended tot mom Casey Anthony, is shaking his head over the second-degree murder charge against George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

The charge leveled by prosecutor Angela Corey is too severe and reeks of political calculus, Mason said.

“It’s political prostitution,” Mason said. “Now I don’t have all the facts – no one does – but you look at what we know of the case and it looks like the prosecutor bowed to other pressures.

“The fact is there is lots of racial bigotry in this case,” Mason said. “And a lot of it is coming from the side of Trayvon Martin’s family. I can understand why his family is upset. They lost a child. But they weren’t at the crime scene. None of us was.”  ::snipping2:: 

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/casey-anthonys-lawyer-george-zimmermans-a-victim-of-prosecutors-political-prostitution.html#storylink=cpy


for once I agree with Cheney Mason and I can't believe I'm saying that.  I feel like I need to go wash my hands after typing that.  I think the prosecutor over charged in this case.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 01:58:18 PM
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20120412ag_martha_coakley_everyone_is_pleased_charges_brought_in_trayvon_martin_case/srvc=home&position=recent
AG Martha Coakley: ‘Everyone is pleased’ charges brought in Trayvon Martin case
By Matt Murphy / State House News Service
April 12, 2012

Attorney General Martha Coakley, the state’s top prosecutor, said Thursday she agreed with the decision by a Florida special prosecutor to bring charges against the man responsible for killing Florida teen Trayvon Martin.

But when asked if she would ever ask the residents of Massachusetts to pray for her to win a conviction – as Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey did Wednesday - she chalked it up to Florida being Florida.

 ::snipping2::
Braude took exception to Corey asking during a press conference that people in Florida continue to pray for Martin’s family and her prosecutorial team, and asked Coakley if she would ever ask to people to pray for a prosecutor.

“I wouldn’t do it. It’s is Florida after all, so you have to account for the Florida,” Coakley said.
 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Casey Anthony’s lawyer: George Zimmerman’s a victim of prosecutor's ‘political prostitution’



Cheney Mason, the freewheeling criminal defense attorney who successfully defended tot mom Casey Anthony, is shaking his head over the second-degree murder charge against George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

The charge leveled by prosecutor Angela Corey is too severe and reeks of political calculus, Mason said.

“It’s political prostitution,” Mason said. “Now I don’t have all the facts – no one does – but you look at what we know of the case and it looks like the prosecutor bowed to other pressures.

“The fact is there is lots of racial bigotry in this case,” Mason said. “And a lot of it is coming from the side of Trayvon Martin’s family. I can understand why his family is upset. They lost a child. But they weren’t at the crime scene. None of us was.”  ::snipping2:: 

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/casey-anthonys-lawyer-george-zimmermans-a-victim-of-prosecutors-political-prostitution.html#storylink=cpy


for once I agree with Cheney Mason and I can't believe I'm saying that.  I feel like I need to go wash my hands after typing that.  I think the prosecutor over charged in this case.

I know exactly what you mean.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 02:03:59 PM
After reading this, I believe Sybrina Fulton is being strongly coached, to say the least. Will this mean the end of live interviews by Ms. Fulton?  IMO, this wasn't a slip of words at all.  This is changing stories and anytime stories start changing, it brings a lot of questions.  JMHO

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/12/11159111-update-trayvon-martins-mom-retracts-accident-characterization-says-zimmerman-killed-him-in-cold-blood?lite
Update: Trayvon Martin's mom retracts 'accident' characterization, says Zimmerman killed him in 'cold blood'
April 12, 2012

Updated at 1:15 p.m. ET: Trayvon Martin's mother retracted her comments that she believes her son's fatal shooting by George Zimmerman was an accident, telling MSNBC-TV on Thursday afternoon that she actually believes "George Zimmerman stalked my son and murdered him in cold blood."

In an interview Thursday morning on NBC's TODAY show, Sybrina Fulton had said: "I believe it was an accident. I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn't turn the clock back."

After Fulton's remarks drew widespread media attention, Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the Martin family, emailed a statement to MSNBC TV saying her comments had been "mischaracterized."

"When I referenced the word 'accident' today with regard to Trayvon's death, in NO way did I mean the shooting was an accident," Fulton said.

"My son was profiled, followed and murdered by George Zimmerman, and there was nothing accidental about that," she said, clarifying that the "accident" was that Martin and Zimmerman ever crossed paths.

Here's the full statement:
(see at link)
Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: tupelohoney on April 12, 2012, 02:11:22 PM
On InSession banner....O'Mara: we looked at the facts of the charges and decided not to ask for a bond hearing at this time. (Not verbatim, sorry)


Interesting......


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 02:15:18 PM
On InSession banner....O'Mara: we looked at the facts of the charges and decided not to ask for a bond hearing at this time. (Not verbatim, sorry)


Interesting......

I saw something about that in this article:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-12/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-charged-jail-20120412_1_face-murder-charges-today-show-accident
George Zimmerman court affidavit: 'Zimmerman confronted Martin'
April 12, 2012

 ::snipping2::
O'Mara said it made more sense to forgo a bond hearing at this point, electing to give time to allow the fervor surrounding the case to die down. He said his client is in protective custody.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 02:18:14 PM
George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer arrested yesterday in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, faced a judge for the first time this afternoon.

Meanwhile, a probable cause affidavit has been filed in the second-degree murder case. In the two-page document, prosecutors offer little new information about the shooting.

However, they said in the affidavit that "Zimmerman confronted Martin," an apparent contradiction of Zimmerman's version of the events that led to the shooting.

The document says Trayvon's mother identified the screams for help heard in a 911 call as those of her son. It also reveals that investigators interviewed Trayvon's girlfriend, who has said she was on the phone with him in the leadup to the shooting.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-charged-jail-20120412,0,1357318.story


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: tupelohoney on April 12, 2012, 02:35:58 PM
On InSession banner....O'Mara: we looked at the facts of the charges and decided not to ask for a bond hearing at this time. (Not verbatim, sorry)


Interesting......

I saw something about that in this article:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-12/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-charged-jail-20120412_1_face-murder-charges-today-show-accident
George Zimmerman court affidavit: 'Zimmerman confronted Martin'
April 12, 2012

 ::snipping2::
O'Mara said it made more sense to forgo a bond hearing at this point, electing to give time to allow the fervor surrounding the case to die down. He said his client is in protective custody.
 ::snipping2::
Ummm.....I don't buy that.  O'Mara said today that if/once bonded, GZ would be protected, so why the delay?  People wanted this case to be fully investigated, it was, and charges were brought against GZ.  Everything from this point forward is now where it should be and the public needs to wait and watch it unfold at trial.  And, I hope they seal every bit of discovery.  Can't believe I'm saying that, but in this case, I think it needs to be done.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: tupelohoney on April 12, 2012, 02:38:38 PM
On InSession banner....O'Mara: we looked at the facts of the charges and decided not to ask for a bond hearing at this time. (Not verbatim, sorry)


Interesting......

I saw something about that in this article:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-12/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-charged-jail-20120412_1_face-murder-charges-today-show-accident
George Zimmerman court affidavit: 'Zimmerman confronted Martin'
April 12, 2012

 ::snipping2::
O'Mara said it made more sense to forgo a bond hearing at this point, electing to give time to allow the fervor surrounding the case to die down. He said his client is in protective custody.
 ::snipping2::
Ummm.....I don't buy that.  O'Mara said today that if/once bonded, GZ would be protected, so why the delay?  People wanted this case to be fully investigated, it was, and charges were brought against GZ.  Everything from this point forward is now where it should be and the public needs to wait and watch it unfold at trial.  And, I hope they seal every bit of discovery.  Can't believe I'm saying that, but in this case, I think it needs to be done.
Correction....I do know that this case is still under investigation, don't know why I said it was fully investigated.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 02:45:08 PM
George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer arrested yesterday in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, faced a judge for the first time this afternoon.

Meanwhile, a probable cause affidavit has been filed in the second-degree murder case. In the two-page document, prosecutors offer little new information about the shooting.
 
However, they said in the affidavit that "Zimmerman confronted Martin," an apparent contradiction of Zimmerman's version of the events that led to the shooting.
 
The document says Trayvon's mother identified the screams for help heard in a 911 call as those of her son. It also reveals that investigators interviewed a "friend" of Trayvon's who was talking to him in the leadup to the shooting.
 
Based on the description, it appears the friend was the girl described by Martin family attorneys as his girlfriend.
 
"During this time, Martin was on the phone with a friend and described to her what was happening," the affidavit said. "The witness advised that Martin was scared because he was being followed through the complex by an unknown male and didn't know why."
 
Martin tried to run home, the affidavit says, but was followed by Zimmerman. "Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed Martin."
 
 The affidavit goes on to say that "Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher" who told him to stop, and "continued to follow Martin who was trying to return to his home."
 
Zimmerman, the affidavit says, "confronted Martin and a struggle ensued."   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47031841



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 03:02:16 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-12/zimmerman-arraignment-set-for-may-29-in-florida-shooting.html
Zimmerman Arraignment Set for May 29 in Florida Shooting
April 12, 2012
 ::snipping2::
Zimmerman, 28, charged yesterday, appeared today before Judge Mark Herr via teleconference for the alleged murder of Martin, 17. Handcuffed and wearing a dark-colored jumpsuit, Zimmerman said only “yes sir” to acknowledge his representation by lawyer Mark O’Mara during the five-minute hearing. The judge found sufficient evidence to support the charges, clearing the way to send the case to a trial court.
 ::snipping2::
While Zimmerman or his lawyers may enter a not guilty plea at the May 29 hearing before a circuit court judge, O’Mara may seek a separate hearing on bail beforehand. Zimmerman is being held in custody and faces as long as life in prison if convicted.
 ::snipping2::
Under Florida law, the purpose of the initial hearing was to insure Zimmerman was informed of his rights and represented by counsel. Judges also are supposed to decide if there’s reason to hold an arrested suspect until a bail hearing can be held.

At the request of Zimmerman’s attorney, the judge ordered the case file sealed except for the probable cause affidavit.

“There is a certain amount of information in the court file that includes personal information about some witnesses, addresses, telephone numbers,” O’Mara said. “There is even some information about Trayvon Martin.”

State Attorney Angela Corey, who was present for the hearing, concurred with his request to seal the file.

Zimmerman stood in front of the microphone as the judge asked him if he understood that he was at a first appearance hearing and he said that he did.

“Yes sir,” Zimmerman said.

The case is State of Florida v. Zimmerman, 1712FO4573, Circuit Court of the 18th Judicial Circuit (Seminole County).
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: tupelohoney on April 12, 2012, 03:17:31 PM
From MNJ on InSession.... GZ contacted his office and asked MNJ to represent him.  Due to family obligations and work, MNJ declined.  He then spoke with GZ and game him a list of 5 attorneys he thought would do a great job for GZ. GZ researched the list, called MNJ back with questions and ended up choosing O'Mara.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 03:19:27 PM
Trayvon's mother IS being coached. I know what I heard this morning right out of her mouth as I posted previously...she is back tracking now...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 03:20:05 PM
From MNJ on InSession.... GZ contacted his office and asked MNJ to represent him.  Due to family obligations and work, MNJ declined.  He then spoke with GZ and game him a list of 5 attorneys he thought would do a great job for GZ. GZ researched the list, called MNJ back with questions and ended up choosing O'Mara.

Watched that too.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
I find it a bit odd that the affidavit has been published, in view of this:
After Zimmerman exited, O'Mara asked the judge to seal documents in the court file containing other information -- including witness statements and information.
"I am seeking on my clients behalf... that we do a complete sealing of that record," O'Mara said, adding that the sealing would be temporary. The judge agreed.
Wasn't the affidavit -- which presumably presents the prosecution's best possible case -- one of the sealed documents?
 
post from   http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2871270/posts

I, too was wondering about this.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: sunshine12 on April 12, 2012, 03:38:45 PM
based on what we know so far, and that's not too much given the media spin and everything, i wouldn't be able to find him guilty of anything higher than manslaughter.  I just have a feeling like so many others have said that this is going to turn into a huge race war, worst than it already has.  I would hate to be on that jury. I hope they don't feel pressured to convict becuase of fear of the black panthers, al sharpton, jesse jackson and company.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 03:40:40 PM
No. The Judge and the Defense Atty both acknowledged this particular document, since it is what he used to reach reasonable cause, is always made public. The Defense Atty agreed.

post from  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2871270/posts

well, that answers that question....


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 03:43:47 PM
Agree Sunshine...

I just heard on HLN that George's attorney is working pro bono


Sybrina Fulton is a fibber Magee...nancy grace is over the top on this case..I can't stand to watch her when she is covering this case...drama crying queen.  IMO



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: jamcakes on April 12, 2012, 04:00:51 PM
Casey Anthony’s lawyer: George Zimmerman’s a victim of prosecutor's ‘political prostitution’



Cheney Mason, the freewheeling criminal defense attorney who successfully defended tot mom Casey Anthony, is shaking his head over the second-degree murder charge against George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

The charge leveled by prosecutor Angela Corey is too severe and reeks of political calculus, Mason said.

“It’s political prostitution,” Mason said. “Now I don’t have all the facts – no one does – but you look at what we know of the case and it looks like the prosecutor bowed to other pressures.

“The fact is there is lots of racial bigotry in this case,” Mason said. “And a lot of it is coming from the side of Trayvon Martin’s family. I can understand why his family is upset. They lost a child. But they weren’t at the crime scene. None of us was.”  ::snipping2:: 

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/casey-anthonys-lawyer-george-zimmermans-a-victim-of-prosecutors-political-prostitution.html#storylink=cpy


So much hatred and bigotry!

Whatever the outcome, it will prove to be more devisive, not healing.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 04:04:26 PM
I also agree with Chaney Mason ....God help me



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Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
As ya'll can see, Klaasend has now set the case up  as "high profile", so we'll be able to have support threads for documents, photos and etc.  

Thank you Klaas  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 04:27:44 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/12/justice/florida-shooting-charge/index.html
Experts argue appropriateness of murder charge in Martin case
April 12, 2012



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: labubske on April 12, 2012, 04:29:18 PM
I also agree with Chaney Mason ....God help me



I know...I was biting my tongue.  But even after that I still agree with him...NEVER thought that I would say anything remotely close to that.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: seahorse on April 12, 2012, 05:07:23 PM
Hello Monkey's,

Does anyone know GZ weight and Height, please?

He looked petite, standing next to his Attorney :)
I read 5'2, could that be how tall?  TIA


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/in-george-zimmerman-case-prosecutors-may-be-hamstrung-by-florida-laws/2012/04/12/gIQAaqjHDT_story_1.html
In George Zimmerman case, prosecutors may be hamstrung by Florida laws
April 12, 2012



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Post by: KittyMom on April 12, 2012, 05:50:49 PM
I also agree with Chaney Mason ....God help me


I read that post and thought the same.  Then I had to go lie down until the nausea passed. 
 :smt078


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 06:22:50 PM
I also agree with Chaney Mason ....God help me


I read that post and thought the same.  Then I had to go lie down until the nausea passed. 
 :smt078

Lol....


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 06:26:49 PM
http://webbond.seminolesheriff.org/JailInmateFq.aspx

(http://i.imgur.com/HSQbH.png)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 06:30:15 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1Npci.png)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2012, 06:44:04 PM
http://webbond.seminolesheriff.org/Mailing.aspx
Mailing or Bringing Items to Inmate and Contraband
Arrest Bookings

Contraband is any item not provided to the inmate by the correctional facility or not purchased by the inmate through the correctional commissary except for mail (see mail requirements). You cannot send or bring the inmate anything else. Even bringing or sending the following items to an inmate is prohibited:

    Books, battery- or electronically-operated cards, candy, care packages, clothing, envelopes, food, glitter, hygiene items, magazines, medication, Polaroid pictures, snacks, stamps, stickers, writing paper is considered contraband etc.


If you send any of these items to an inmate, the mail will be returned to you. If you bring any of these items with you on visitation, they will be confiscated and you could face prosecution.

The only exceptions are the items below which may be provided to the inmate only in the following manner:

    Mail consisting of non-perfumed letters containing nothing other than 1 to 5 photographs no larger than 4 in. x 6 in., but no Polaroids, can be sent to inmates at their respective corrections facility. Any photographs containing nudity will not be issued to the inmate.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 06:48:39 PM
Zimmerman housed apart at jail, makes purchases
 
CNN) -- George Michael Zimmerman, inmate #201200004452, is living in a cell with 67 square feet of floor space, is allowed to read the Bible and magazines, but has no access to TV, according to officials at the central Florida jail where he is being held.
 
Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the February 26 shooting death of Trayvon Martin, 17, in Sanford, is segregated from the general population at the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, according to the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.
 
According to jail records, Zimmerman, 28, has purchased $79.84 in items at the facility's commissary, leaving a balance of $41.16. He's allowed to buy items once a week.
 
The neighborhood watch volunteer's shopping list included contact lens solution, Irish Spring soap, playing cards, puzzle books, Jolly Ranchers candy, two oranges and other snacks, the sheriff's office said in a news release Thursday.
 
The facility assesses a $10 booking fee and a $3 per day subsistence fee. The fee is deducted from the inmate's trust account.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/12/justice/florida-zimmerman-jail/index.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Ono on April 12, 2012, 06:50:25 PM
Casey Anthony’s lawyer: George Zimmerman’s a victim of prosecutor's ‘political prostitution’



Cheney Mason, the freewheeling criminal defense attorney who successfully defended tot mom Casey Anthony, is shaking his head over the second-degree murder charge against George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

The charge leveled by prosecutor Angela Corey is too severe and reeks of political calculus, Mason said.

“It’s political prostitution,” Mason said. “Now I don’t have all the facts – no one does – but you look at what we know of the case and it looks like the prosecutor bowed to other pressures.

“The fact is there is lots of racial bigotry in this case,” Mason said. “And a lot of it is coming from the side of Trayvon Martin’s family. I can understand why his family is upset. They lost a child. But they weren’t at the crime scene. None of us was.”  ::snipping2:: 

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/04/casey-anthonys-lawyer-george-zimmermans-a-victim-of-prosecutors-political-prostitution.html#storylink=cpy


for once I agree with Cheney Mason and I can't believe I'm saying that.  I feel like I need to go wash my hands after typing that.  I think the prosecutor over charged in this case.

I agree ...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Ono on April 12, 2012, 06:53:22 PM
I also agree with Chaney Mason ....God help me


I read that post and thought the same.  Then I had to go lie down until the nausea passed. 
 :smt078

Lol....

 ::MonkeyDevil::   


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 06:58:35 PM
Harvard Prof. Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit ‘Irresponsible And Unethical’


Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz appeared on MSNBC’s Hardball where fill-in host Michel Smerconish asked him his opinions of the arrest warrant issued and carried out for alleged Trayvon Martin murderer, George Zimmerman. Dershowitz called the affidavit justifying Zimmerman’s arrest “not only thin, it’s irresponsible.” He went on to criticize the decision to charge Zimmerman for second degree murder by special prosecutor Angela Cory as being politically motivated.

“You’ve seen the affidavit of probable cause. What do you make of it,” Smerconish asked. “It won’t suffice,” Dershowitz replied without hesitation.

“Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin. This is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge,” Dershowitz said. “There’s simply nothing in there that would justify second degree murder.”
 
Dershowitz said that the elements that would constitute that crime are non-existent in the affidavit. “It’s not only thin, it’s irresponsible,” said Dershowitz.

Dershowitz went on to strongly criticize Cory’s decision to move forward with the case against Zimmerman. “I think what you have here is an elected public official who made a campaign speech last night for reelection when she gave her presentation and overcharged. This case will not – if the evidence is no stronger than what appears in the probable cause affidavit – this case will result in an acquittal.”  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/harvard-prof-alan-dershowitz-zimmerman-arrest-affidavit-irresponsible-and-unethical/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 07:01:19 PM
Wow...thanks Toler.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 07:14:31 PM
At CPAC, Breitbart Predicted What Left, Media Are Doing in Trayvon Case

In his celebrated address to the Conservative Political Action Conference this past February, Andrew Breitbart predicted that the left and the media would do exactly what they are doing today: concoct false accusations of racism to divide Americans and intimidate opponents of President Barack Obama.
 
Breitbart specifically singled out Al Sharpton and MSNBC, anticipating that they would cynically use empty "dog whistle" accusations to inflame racial tensions. He noted that it made no sense for Sharpton to have a prime time program "unless you understand what they're doing":
 
This is gonna be the dog whistle election cycle. They tested it in 2011, so that [Sharpton] and his pal Touré, and that punk, Tim Jacob Wise, and Ed [Schultz], and [Rachel] Maddow can sit there and call everyone who's caucasian racist--"I heard it! I used 'is' instead of 'are'! He's a racist! That's a dog whistle"--[and] ignore it when Congressman [Jim] Moran does it against Allen West--no more! We're gonna go after you.
 
I bought a dog whistle. I bought a dog whistle factory, and I'm giving you dog whistles. [Applause] And we're gonna listen to every word that comes out of your mouth, and we're gonna hold you to the same standard that you hold us--which is an impossible one--and you're gonna have a hell of a time in 2012 because America's finally awoken to your Saul Alinsky, bullsh** tactics, and we're coming to get you. Thank you very much.  ::snipping2::


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/12/At-CPAC-Breitbart-Predicted-What-Left-Media-Are-Doing-in-Trayvon-Case


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Amys Sister on April 12, 2012, 07:45:26 PM
Agree Sunshine...

I just heard on HLN that George's attorney is working pro bono


Sybrina Fulton is a fibber Magee...nancy grace is over the top on this case..I can't stand to watch her when she is covering this case...drama crying queen.  IMO




Three nights in a row Nancy has made that 'crying but there are no tears' face each time Trayvon Martin's parents' attorney made an appearance. 

I noticed it too  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
Lawyers in Tampa "stand your ground" case argue for dismissal


TAMPA — Trevor Dooley's lawyers say it was an act of self-defense — pulling the trigger kept him alive.

David James was on top of him, hands around Dooley's neck. Dooley couldn't breathe. He tried to warn James by poking him in the leg twice with a handgun.

When it didn't work, Dooley fired.

Lawyers for Dooley, the man accused of killing his Valrico neighbor, submitted their argument Thursday in a motion asking a judge to dismiss the manslaughter charge against him.

Their main defense? Florida's "stand your ground" law.

The law allows a person to use deadly force to save his own life, even if retreat is possible.

The filing comes at a time when national attention is focused on another Florida case in which the "stand your ground" law has been invoked.

More than six weeks after the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, authorities arrested George Zimmerman Wednesday amid public outcry for justice. Charged with second-degree murder, Zimmerman told Sanford police he shot Martin in self-defense after Martin attacked him.

Dooley's lawyers also say the then 69-year-old was protecting himself when he shot James, 41, after a 2010 argument over skateboarding.  ::snipping2::  

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/lawyers-in-tampa-stand-your-ground-case-argue-for-dismissal/1224750
Edit to fix boo-boo.  MB


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 07:50:50 PM
Gosh!! I really made a mess of that post..so sorry!  ::MonkeyEek::  Fixed.   ::MonkeyWink:: MB


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on April 12, 2012, 09:09:15 PM
Al Sharpton, et al really cheapen any cause with which they are affiliated and sadly his association to the Trayvon Martin case has trivialized the events, further alienating people.

Let's be honest though, if a black man murdered a white 17 year old boy under similar circumstances, LE would have pressed charges against said black man.

Did George Zimmerman profile Trayvon?  I think so, but for me the only thing that matters is that an innocent boy was murdered, whether race was a factor is of little consequence in the scheme of things, much like Channon and Chris were murdered because they were white (which I believe is also true) but their murder was the point of the excercise of justice not the racial motivation.

Every ethnicity has racists but why should we give it any focus?  The public stepped forward and applied pressure so an investigation would be properly done.  If we just stay focused on the murder and the evidence, and allow ourselves to move past our 'ideas' of racism, maybe we can all really get over it.

One last thing, Chris Newsom smoked pot but that had nothing to do with his murder... likewise with Trayvon Martin (IMO). 



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 12, 2012, 10:26:01 PM
Personally, I feel that the marijuana residue that was found in Trayvon's backpack is important because it is more accurate than what was being portrayed...until then I had thought the kid was a baby-faced fifth grader because of the pictures that were posted.  Of course it had nothing to do with his death...but it gives a more accurate picture than the one that his parents were offering.  Along with the jewelry and "burglary" tools found.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 12, 2012, 10:33:40 PM
(http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=LL&Date=20120412&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=120419792&Ref=AR&MaxW=445&border=0)

Not sure if this has been posted yet...WOW...he is A LOT smaller than I thought.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20120412/NEWS/120419792?tc=cr


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: iluvmua on April 12, 2012, 10:36:12 PM
Q: Why are many people saying that George will be acquitted? found Not Guilty?

I thought now, it comes out that Zimmerman was trailing Trayvon.

maybe I missed something.


and another Q: If you were on this jury, would you acquit George?



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 12, 2012, 10:41:39 PM
Q: Why are many people saying that George will be acquitted? found Not Guilty?

I thought now, it comes out that Zimmerman was trailing Trayvon.

maybe I missed something.


and another Q: If you were on this jury, would you acquit George?



I didn't realize that there was concrete evidence that George did continue to follow Trayvon.  I might have missed that.  Personally, with the evidence so far that I have read and listening to the 911 call...I will have to acquit him.  Unless I have missed that George did continue following him AFTER the dispatcher told him that they do not need him to do that.  And I would want to make sure that the witnesses are accurate and not just caught up in the headlines.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 12, 2012, 10:44:37 PM
Q: Why are many people saying that George will be acquitted? found Not Guilty?

I thought now, it comes out that Zimmerman was trailing Trayvon.

maybe I missed something.


and another Q: If you were on this jury, would you acquit George?



Could not say if I would acquit until all the facts are presented to me...right now I would say that it does not look good for George Zimmerman ....but I don't know what happened that night yet..none of us know at this point. I do think that there could be reasonable doubt after listening to the talking heads , but time will tell. I thought that Casey Anthony would be found guilty and look how that turned out...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: iluvmua on April 12, 2012, 10:49:27 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/12/affidavit-alleges-george-zimmerman-confronted-trayvon-martin/

I guess I got confused because it now says that GZ confronted TM.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: iluvmua on April 12, 2012, 10:51:01 PM
Could anyone tell me what the talking heads are saying in regards to George being acquited/found not guilty?



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 12, 2012, 10:52:10 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/12/affidavit-alleges-george-zimmerman-confronted-trayvon-martin/

I guess I got confused because it now says that GZ confronted TM.



Thanks iluvmua...I will go and read it.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 12, 2012, 10:59:51 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/12/affidavit-alleges-george-zimmerman-confronted-trayvon-martin/

I guess I got confused because it now says that GZ confronted TM.



Thanks iluvmua...I will go and read it.

I know that if he continued to follow him after he was informed not to...then that does it for me.  He should have gotten back into his truck and let the police do their work.  It breaks my heart that a young man is dead and it appears that he was doing nothing wrong.  I think that George was tired of the burglaries and jumped the gun here, thinking another was in the process.  Now Trayvon is dead and George is in jail.  I think nothing between those two were racially motivated.  So, why has this become a race thing again? 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 11:02:14 PM
Al Sharpton, et al really cheapen any cause with which they are affiliated and sadly his association to the Trayvon Martin case has trivialized the events, further alienating people.

Let's be honest though, if a black man murdered a white 17 year old boy under similar circumstances, LE would have pressed charges against said black man.

Did George Zimmerman profile Trayvon?  I think so, but for me the only thing that matters is that an innocent boy was murdered, whether race was a factor is of little consequence in the scheme of things, much like Channon and Chris were murdered because they were white (which I believe is also true) but their murder was the point of the excercise of justice not the racial motivation.

Every ethnicity has racists but why should we give it any focus?  The public stepped forward and applied pressure so an investigation would be properly done.  If we just stay focused on the murder and the evidence, and allow ourselves to move past our 'ideas' of racism, maybe we can all really get over it.

One last thing, Chris Newsom smoked pot but that had nothing to do with his murder... likewise with Trayvon Martin (IMO). 



The focus is there because of statements made and broadcast by mostly fringe groups. I'm not sure, but...I've only ever seen 3 or 4 Black Panthers, same group spouting off never any supporters on camera.Not sure that they even have any?

Profiling...I think we all do it! My very rural home had a series of break-ins recently, the crook was described as a white male etc, well..when I'm out and about here that's the type guy am looking for...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 11:13:55 PM
In Interview, Zimmerman's Lawyer Says Trial Won't Happen In 2012


Defense attorney Mark O'Mara (left) stands with his client, George Zimmerman, at a hearing related to second-degree murder charges in the killing of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla.
But in the meantime, O'Mara tells Tell Me More host Michel Martin, he'd like to get his client out of jail.

"I think he deserves to be out on bond, with whatever conditions the court believes appropriate to protect him, and the process," O'Mara says. "I would like him out, so that he can assist me in preparing for his defense."  ::snipping2::

http://www.gpb.org/news/2012/04/12/in-interview-zimmermans-lawyer-says-trial-wont-happen-in-2012


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 12, 2012, 11:25:59 PM
A day after calling for public calm, Orlando lawyer Mark O'Mara opened George Zimmerman's defense Thursday at his first court appearance in Seminole County by successfully requesting the temporary sealing of most records in the second-degree-murder case.

Local lawyers called it a deft move to limit pretrial publicity after weeks of speculation over what happened the night Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin in Sanford. And they said it was typical of O'Mara's measured approach.

"He's going to try the case in court, not in the press, and I admire that," said Jeff Ashton, who retired last year as the lead homicide prosecutor for the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office. "I don't expect to see Mark out there giving his opinion [on TV] as much as some other attorneys have in past, high-profile criminal cases."

Ashton and O'Mara opposed each other in the 2001 trial of serial killer Frederick Peter Cox, who murdered three prostitutes and tried to kill two other women, and in state and federal trials over execution-style killings known as the 1992 Kissimmee carjacking murders. O'Mara's clients were convicted in both cases.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-mark-omara-george-zimmerman-20120412,0,5280679.story


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: kcrn on April 13, 2012, 12:26:27 AM
 ::monkeywine2::
Personally, I feel that the marijuana residue that was found in Trayvon's backpack is important because it is more accurate than what was being portrayed...until then I had thought the kid was a baby-faced fifth grader because of the pictures that were posted.  Of course it had nothing to do with his death...but it gives a more accurate picture than the one that his parents were offering.  Along with the jewelry and "burglary" tools found.
[/quote
this kid didnt deserve what happened, but lets stop pretending he was some fresh faced little boyscout. I think his lifestyle & the type of person he may have been is very relevant in that it may be that he initiated the struggle.not saying he did but i think kids that steal & do drugs can also be kids that fight & can be violent too. I want the truth to determine the punishment, but i am sick to death of this being a race thing and giving morons like sharpton a new opportunity to play the race card. The kkk disgusts me. Why doesnt the black panthers disgust the black community? Maybe they do but groups like that should never get a podium to spew their hate.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: kcrn on April 13, 2012, 12:27:54 AM
::monkeywine2::
Personally, I feel that the marijuana residue that was found in Trayvon's backpack is important because it is more accurate than what was being portrayed...until then I had thought the kid was a baby-faced fifth grader because of the pictures that were posted.  Of course it had nothing to do with his death...but it gives a more accurate picture than the one that his parents were offering.  Along with the jewelry and "burglary" tools found.
[/quote
this kid didnt deserve what happened, but lets stop pretending he was some fresh faced little boyscout. I think his lifestyle & the type of person he may have been is very relevant in that it may be that he initiated the struggle.not saying he did but i think kids that steal & do drugs can also be kids that fight & can be tviolent too. I want the truth to determine the punishment, but i am sick to death of this being a race thing and giving morons like sharpton a new opportunity to play the race card. The kkk disgusts me. Why doesnt the black panthers disgust the black community? Maybe they do but groups like that should never get a podium to spew their hate.
i am so sorry. I messed up the box again


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 13, 2012, 12:49:31 AM
Hello Monkey's,

Does anyone know GZ weight and Height, please?

He looked petite, standing next to his Attorney :)
I read 5'2, could that be how tall?  TIA

This might be helpful.

http://www.ajc.com/news/q-a-on-the-1412739.html

Quote
Q: What were the height and weight of Trayvon Martin and of George Zimmerman at the time of Martin's death?
 
-- L.A. Baarcke, Dahlonega
 
A: The Associated Press has reported that Martin was 6 feet tall and 140 pounds, but the police report listed him as 6-foot, 160 pounds. The police report stated that Zimmerman is 5-foot-9, but didn’t list his weight. The New York Times reported that witnesses to the fight between Martin and Zimmerman described Martin as 6-foot-1 and 150 pounds and Zimmerman as 5-foot-9, 170 pounds.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on April 13, 2012, 02:24:58 AM
Quote
Dan Barry was the lead reporter. He described the process by which Trayvon Martin’s father learned of his son’s death:

BARRY (4/2/12): Early next morning [after the shooting], no sign of Trayvon, still. Mr. Martin called his son's cellphone, which again went to voice mail. He then repeatedly called the cousin until he answered, only to share the distressing news that he had not seen Trayvon.

Now it was Mr. Martin calling 911. He reported that his son was missing, and then described what his son was wearing. Soon he was outside, meeting a couple of responding police officers. One of them took out a photograph of a dead body from a folder.

''Next thing I heard was a scream,'' Ms. Green said. ''I never want to see anybody in that kind of pain again.''

Mr. Martin cried and cried. At the police station later that day, he said, detectives told him that they had not arrested the man who had shot and killed his son. They explained that George Zimmerman was claiming self-defense.
In fact, Martin’s father learned of his son’s death the morning after the shooting. Trayvon’s body did not “sit in a morgue for three days before his parents were contacted,” the bogus fact Big Eddie had pimped, telling us we should be outraged.

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/

Trayvon's family did not wait three days to find their son.

It seems like he and his family are being judged harshly.  Given the circumstances of his death this really bothers me but I respect the views of others and the right to express those views.

Labubske, in answer to your question, this originally became a race thing because the police did no investigation of the murder and instead let George Zimmerman walk free based on his own account of what happened that night.  LE had no intention of ever investigating the murder or charging George Zimmerman in spite of the fact that Trayvon was unarmed and was almost at the door of his father's house, while George's truck was much farther away indicating he may have chased the boy down and killed him.  It was as if LE was willing to ignore the boys murder because he was black.  There have been reports of accusations of racism against this police department, albeit in the media which seems to really struggle with reporting the unbiased truth.


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Post by: seahorse on April 13, 2012, 08:38:32 AM
Hello Monkey's,

Does anyone know GZ weight and Height, please?

He looked petite, standing next to his Attorney :)
I read 5'2, could that be how tall?  TIA

This might be helpful.

http://www.ajc.com/news/q-a-on-the-1412739.html

Quote
Q: What were the height and weight of Trayvon Martin and of George Zimmerman at the time of Martin's death?
 
-- L.A. Baarcke, Dahlonega
 
A: The Associated Press has reported that Martin was 6 feet tall and 140 pounds, but the police report listed him as 6-foot, 160 pounds. The police report stated that Zimmerman is 5-foot-9, but didn’t list his weight. The New York Times reported that witnesses to the fight between Martin and Zimmerman described Martin as 6-foot-1 and 150 pounds and Zimmerman as 5-foot-9, 170 pounds.


Googmorninging Monkey's,

Grace-land,

Thank-you for GZ, height and weight. 

::MonkeyEek::



Did TM's, girl friend, record the incident (on her phone) between GZ and TM?



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Post by: cookie on April 13, 2012, 08:48:54 AM
Has Travon been laid to rest yet?


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Post by: seahorse on April 13, 2012, 08:54:55 AM

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20120413officials_reveal_details_of_george_zimmermans_jail_activities_purchases/srvc=home&position=recent



Officials reveal details of George Zimmerman’s jail activities, purchases

By Jeff Weiner 

The Orlando Sentinel
Friday, April 13, 2012 - Added 3 hours ago



 ::snipping2::

Shopping:

Zimmerman can also make weekly purchases from the commissary, from an account contributed to by people on his visitation list. So far, he’s spent $79.84. He has $41.16 remaining.

His first order was for more than two dozen items, including toiletries, clothing, snacks — including Nutrigrain bars, Tostitos and Jolly Ranchers — playing cards and two puzzle books. Zimmerman also purchased a calling card.

 ::snipping2::

 ::MonkeyTongue::

 GZ can shop until he drops and eat his way to happiness. We live in a wonderful Country.



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Post by: cookie on April 13, 2012, 08:56:47 AM
Has Travon been laid to rest yet?



Sorry...Trayvon.....


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: seahorse on April 13, 2012, 09:02:10 AM
Has Travon been laid to rest yet?



Sorry...Trayvon.....

Cookie,

Here is some information....I will try findagrave.com

http://www.legacy.com/ns/obitfinder/obituary-search.aspx?daterange=Last1Yrs&firstname=trayvon&lastname=martin&countryid=1&stateid=0&affiliateid=all

Trayvon Martin
Martin, Trayvon, 17, of Miami, FL, passed away on February 26, 2012. Roy Mizell & Kurtz Funeral Home, Ft. Lauderdale.

Read Obituary
Published in Sun-Sentinel on March 2, 2012



Trayvon B. Martin Sanford, FL Trayvon Benjamin Martin, 17, born on February 5, 1995, was the son of Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin.

He was visiting with his father and his...

Read Obituary  Visit Guest Book

Published in The News & ******* on April 9, 2012


www.legacy.com...Trayvon Martin

 ::justice2NJ::


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Post by: seahorse on April 13, 2012, 09:06:12 AM
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=86298494

Birth:  Feb. 5, 1995
Death:  Feb. 26, 2012
Sanford
Seminole County
Florida, USA

Trayvon was a junior at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School. He loved horses, sports, video games and dreamed of becoming a pilot. He is survived by his parents. His funeral was held March 3, 2012, in Miami. More than 1,000 people, including classmates and friends, attended his viewing. May he rest in eternal peace.
 
 
Burial:
Dade Memorial Park
Miami
Miami-Dade County
Florida, USA
Plot: MDCU 10 South, Row A, Crypt 9
 
Created by: Andie Parrish (Ancestor'...
Record added: Mar 05, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 86298494
 
 ::MonkeyEek::

Trayvon will not attend his Prom, thanks to GZ, but GZ is eating and playing in Jail. IMO


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 09:12:30 AM
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=86298494

Birth:  Feb. 5, 1995
Death:  Feb. 26, 2012
Sanford
Seminole County
Florida, USA

Trayvon was a junior at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School. He loved horses, sports, video games and dreamed of becoming a pilot. He is survived by his parents. His funeral was held March 3, 2012, in Miami. More than 1,000 people, including classmates and friends, attended his viewing. May he rest in eternal peace.
 
  
Burial:
Dade Memorial Park
Miami
Miami-Dade County
Florida, USA
Plot: MDCU 10 South, Row A, Crypt 9
 
Created by: Andie Parrish (Ancestor'...
Record added: Mar 05, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 86298494
 
 ::MonkeyEek::

Trayvon will not attend his Prom, thanks to GZ, but GZ is eating and playing in Jail. IMO

Zimmerman housed apart at jail, makes purchases
 
CNN) -- George Michael Zimmerman, inmate #201200004452, is living in a cell with 67 square feet of floor space, is allowed to read the Bible and magazines, but has no access to TV, according to officials at the central Florida jail where he is being held.
 
Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the February 26 shooting death of Trayvon Martin, 17, in Sanford, is segregated from the general population at the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, according to the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.
 
According to jail records, Zimmerman, 28, has purchased $79.84 in items at the facility's commissary, leaving a balance of $41.16. He's allowed to buy items once a week.
 
The neighborhood watch volunteer's shopping list included contact lens solution, Irish Spring soap, playing cards, puzzle books, Jolly Ranchers candy, two oranges and other snacks, the sheriff's office said in a news release Thursday.
 
The facility assesses a $10 booking fee and a $3 per day subsistence fee. The fee is deducted from the inmate's trust account.
::snipping2::  

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/12/justice/florida-zimmerman-jail/index.html

BBM A more comprehensive list of items purchased.


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Post by: tupelohoney on April 13, 2012, 09:20:02 AM
Has Travon been laid to rest yet?

Yes, he was buried on March 3rd.


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Post by: labubske on April 13, 2012, 09:24:14 AM
I'm glad that my community is doing this.  Prayers for everyone involved...especially the family that lost their son.  So tragic.

Bartow Religious Leaders Plan Gathering to Remember Trayvon Martin

"We felt like we needed to do something to get the people together to pray for healing," she said. "That's what we are going to do — to pray for healing in the nation."

"We also want people to know what's going on with the legal case, and where it's going from here," she said. "So many people are misinformed, and that's not good."

http://www.theledger.com/article/20120412/NEWS/120419776/1134?Title=Bartow-Religious-Leaders-Plan-Gathering-to-Remember-Trayvon-Martin


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Post by: labubske on April 13, 2012, 09:25:01 AM
I'm glad that my community is doing this.  Prayers for everyone involved...especially the family that lost their son.  So tragic.

Bartow Religious Leaders Plan Gathering to Remember Trayvon Martin

 ::snipping2::

"We felt like we needed to do something to get the people together to pray for healing," she said. "That's what we are going to do — to pray for healing in the nation."

"We also want people to know what's going on with the legal case, and where it's going from here," she said. "So many people are misinformed, and that's not good."

http://www.theledger.com/article/20120412/NEWS/120419776/1134?Title=Bartow-Religious-Leaders-Plan-Gathering-to-Remember-Trayvon-Martin

I didn't put the scissors in...self edit.


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 09:25:05 AM
I'm glad that my community is doing this.  Prayers for everyone involved...especially the family that lost their son.  So tragic.

Bartow Religious Leaders Plan Gathering to Remember Trayvon Martin

"We felt like we needed to do something to get the people together to pray for healing," she said. "That's what we are going to do — to pray for healing in the nation."

"We also want people to know what's going on with the legal case, and where it's going from here," she said. "So many people are misinformed, and that's not good."

http://www.theledger.com/article/20120412/NEWS/120419776/1134?Title=Bartow-Religious-Leaders-Plan-Gathering-to-Remember-Trayvon-Martin

 ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 09:30:58 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57413553/bond-issue-next-up-as-zimmerman-case-progresses/
Bond issue next up as Zimmerman case progresses
By  Mark Strassmann
April, 13, 2012

(CBS News) George Zimmerman is still in police custody, facing murder charges for the shooting of Trayvon Martin on Feb. 26, 2012.

At his bond hearing next Friday, Zimmerman's new lawyer, Mark O'Mara, will argue his client is no flight risk and that if he wanted to run, he'd be long-gone six weeks after the shooting of Martin.

Zimmerman has not yet entered a plea. That will happen at his arraignment, scheduled for May 29. By then, he and his attorney hope, Zimmerman will be free on bond.

But there's another issue: whether Zimmerman, facing murder charges, is actually safer behind bars.
Zimmerman's first hearing was purely procedural and lasted less than three minutes. For his jailhouse protection, the second-degree murder defendant is staying alone in a cell designed for two inmates.
 ::snipping2::
Zimmerman hid for most of the six weeks he faced no charges for killing unarmed Trayvon Martin. He claimed it was in self-defense.

But his arrest relieved many people in Sanford, Fla. Edward Cason, a Sanford resident, told CBS News, "I'm not going to lie to you. I wanted to do a back flip. ... What went through my head is, 'It's about time. It took them long enough.'"

Another, Carolyn Walker, said, "We feel like that's the first step in this particular case. But not only do we want justice for Trayvon Martin. We also want justice for George Zimmerman."
   


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Post by: cookie on April 13, 2012, 09:31:12 AM
Thanks all...
My goodness,,,,I was trying to think why I would have missed the news of his funeral and then I realized that was the day after getting the new pup and I was not doing much except puppy sitting...
I will look back to see the news on his funeral..thanks again..

RIP Trayvon....


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 09:34:39 AM
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Atty-Zimmerman-bail-hearing-to-be-held-next-week-3479065.php
Atty: Zimmerman bail hearing to be held next week
April 13, 2012

ANFORD, Fla. (AP) — Trayvon Martin's supporters fought for weeks to win an arrest after the 17-year-old was fatally shot by a neighborhood watch volunteer in Florida. Now George Zimmerman's attorney has begun what could be a lengthy legal battle to free his client from the second-degree murder charge filed in the case.

The first step for Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara will be to try to get his client out of jail while the legal process continues. A hearing for the 28-year-old probably will be held on April 20 to determine if he will be allowed to post bail and leave jail, O'Mara said late Thursday.
 ::snipping2::
Zimmerman did not enter a plea during the hearing, although O'Mara previously said his client ultimately will plead not guilty. Zimmerman will be able to enter a plea during his May 29 arraignment.

At some point soon, O'Mara also is expected to ask the judge for a hearing on Florida's "stand your ground" self-defense law, which gives people a broad right to use deadly force without having to retreat from a fight.

"It is going to be a facet of this defense, I'm sure," he said in an interview. "That statute has some troublesome portions to it, and we're now going to have some conversations and discussions about it as a state. But right now it is the law of Florida and it is the law that is going to have an impact on this case."

For all the relief among civil rights activists over the arrest, legal experts warned there is a real chance the case could get thrown out before it ever goes to trial because of the "stand your ground" law.

At a pretrial hearing, Zimmerman's lawyers would only have to prove by a preponderance of evidence — a relatively low legal standard — that he acted in self-defense in order to get a judge to toss out the second-murder charges. And if that fails and the case does go to trial, the defense can raise the argument all over again.
 ::snipping2::
(2 pg. article)
Slide show at link


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Post by: seahorse on April 13, 2012, 11:44:25 AM
http://webbond.seminolesheriff.org/InmateInfo.aspx?bkgnbr=201200004452

GEORGE  ZIMMERMAN 
 
 
 
INMATE INFORMATION 
Booking #:  201200004452 
Name:  GEORGE   ZIMMERMAN   
Date of Birth:  10/05/1983 
Location:  I 
Arrested by:  Seminole County Sheriff`s Office 
Arrest Date:  04/11/2012 08:30:00 PM 
 
   
•Arraignment: 05/29/12 13:30 - 2012001083CFA
 
Inmate may not be bailed.
   
 
ACCOUNT BALANCE 

$318.16 
   


 BBM


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: seahorse on April 13, 2012, 12:58:16 PM
http://webbond.seminolesheriff.org/InmateInfo.aspx?bkgnbr=201200004452

GEORGE  ZIMMERMAN 
 
 
 
INMATE INFORMATION 
Booking #:  201200004452 
Name:  GEORGE   ZIMMERMAN   
Date of Birth:  10/05/1983 
Location:  I 
Arrested by:  Seminole County Sheriff`s Office 
Arrest Date:  04/11/2012 08:30:00 PM 
 
   
•Arraignment: 05/29/12 13:30 - 2012001083CFA
 
Inmate may not be bailed.
   
 
ACCOUNT BALANCE 

$318.16 
   


 BBM

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Account Balance is down to 308.16, must be the 10.00 booking fee, IMO.

http://webbond.seminolesheriff.org/InmateInfo.aspx?bkgnbr=201200004452The facility


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: seahorse on April 13, 2012, 01:14:48 PM

Video: George Zimmerman Spends $79.84 at Jail Store, Cries Through Night

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/video-george-zimmerman-spends-7984-jail-store-cries-through-night


 ::snipping2::

In between tears, Zimmerman stocked up on some basic supplies. According to the Miami Herald, he spent $79.84 at the jail store on playing cards, puzzles, candy, socks, a phone debit card, soap, underwear, beef sticks, t-shirts, deodorant, chocolate cookies, and an orange.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Video: George Zimmerman Spends $79.84 at Jail Store, Cries Through Night
He is going to need a lot of drawers.  :)  IMO

Is the Jail Store like a 7/11, is it is open all night?  He must be a marathon shopper. IMO


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: seahorse on April 13, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129059/Trayvon-Martin-case-George-Zimmermans-new-life-jail-revealed-spends-night-bars.html


 ::dogwag::

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129059/Trayvon-Martin-case-George-Zimmermans-new-life-jail-revealed-spends-night-bars.html

 ::MonkeyEek::

The price list is included by Daily Mail.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 01:37:29 PM
Affidavit: George Zimmerman did not use racial slur

When a recording was released of a 911 call George Zimmerman made to police shortly before fatally shooting Trayvon Martin, some who heard it zeroed in on three words to suggest he had uttered a racial slur.
 
An affidavit released by the prosecutor who has charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder says he did not use a slur, however. The document filed Thursday did say Zimmerman "profiled" Martin. It did not elaborate.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20120413affidavit_george_zimmerman_did_not_use_racial_slur/format=comments&position=recent


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: sharon on April 13, 2012, 01:43:11 PM
EXCELLENT (imo) presentation of the Florida statute for second degree murder and the charges levied against George Zimmerman at the link below.

I do not have a legal mind or background, and I found this very basic to understand. Thanks, Valhall.


http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2012/04/13/trayvon-martin-case-looking-at-the-charge-against-george/#more-9897

 ::snipping2::

This at least establishes for us the information we have previously heard that the State holds as true in establishing and supporting the charge of second-degree murder against George Zimmerman.  How these statements of fact will be challenged and either stand or fall in a court of law is yet to be seen.

Valhall.


 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
Judge in George Zimmerman case may recuse herself

The attorney for George Zimmerman, who's charged with murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, said he will likely filing a motion for the judge to recuse herself from the case because of a possible conflict of interest.

During a 10-minute status hearing that was held Friday in Seminole County, attorney Mark O'Mara said the filing of the motion to have Circuit Court Judge Jessica Recksiedler removed may be "imminent."

O'Mara became Zimmerman's attorney after being recommended by attorney Mark NeJame, who was contacted by Zimmerman's family.  Recksiedler's husband works at NeJame's law firm.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Attorney-for-George-Zimmerman-seeks-judge-s-recusal/-/1637132/10705038/-/13fp7e3/-/index.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 02:11:28 PM
George Zimmerman judge: My husband works for a lawyer who'll do case commentary for CNN

NFORD – The judge hearing the George Zimmerman case today announced that her husband works for the law firm of Mark NeJame, who's been hired to act as a CNN analyst for this case.

Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler said she had an ethical obligation to disclose that and allow Zimmerman's attorney or the special prosecutor to ask her to step down.  ::snipping2::

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-13/news/os-george-zimmerman-hearing-trayvon-martin-20120413_1_status-hearing-second-degree-murder-affidavit


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 02:34:41 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/surprise-bail-hearing-accused-trayvon-martin-killer-george-zimmerman-announced-article-1.1061222
Surprise bail hearing for accused Trayvon Martin killer George Zimmerman announced
Suspect will appear in court Friday

April 12, 2012

Trayvon Martin’s accused killer has a bail hearing Friday — an unexpected development in a controversial case with many twists and turns.

George Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder, was not expected back in court until later this month.
 ::snipping2::
The surprise announcement came after O’Mara -- a respected lawyer best known for his cable TV commentary on sensational Florida trials like the Casey Anthony case -- said he didn’t expect Zimmerman to be tried this year.

“It would be guesswork,” O’Mara said. “But, most cases like this, I cannot imagine it going to trial within the year.”

O’Mara, in an interview with Michel Martin of National Public Radio, also said he doesn’t think Zimmerman could get a fair trial right now — and certainly not in Seminole County, Fla.

“You know, the wounds are still quite raw,” he said. “And part of it is, I would like to give the community some time, to begin to build back up its trust in the criminal justice process.”

Asked if he would request a change of venue at Zimmerman’s arraignment, O’Mara said “I have no idea.”

“It’s much too early,” he said. “That process really should occur only when you’re getting close to trial.”
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 02:38:08 PM
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/13/11182597-hearing-raises-possible-conflict-for-judge-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-case?lite
Hearing raises possible conflict for judge in Trayvon Martin shooting case
April 13, 2012

A status hearing Friday in the case of George Zimmerman, the Florida man charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, focused on the possibility of replacing the judge because of a possible conflict of interest.

Seminole County Circuit Judge Jessica J. Recksiedler disclosed that her husband, an attorney who works civil cases, works in the same firm as Mark NeJame, a criminal lawyer who had been previously contacted by Zimmerman for counsel.
NeJame did not take Zimmerman as a client, but he now a contract with CNN to provide analysis on the case.

Zimmerman's attorney Mark O’Mara raised concerns that Recksiedler’s role as a judge — tangentially connected to NeJame as a media analyst could be problematic, especially in a case that he noted will come under “intense scrutiny” over coming months by the press and activists.

O’Mara can file to disqualify Recksiedler, the judge said, but she asked him to make the request prior to the scheduled bail hearing set for next Friday if he decides to do so.

Recksiedler is a former assistant state attorney from Sanford who was elected to the bench in 2010. Arraignment is scheduled for May 29.

Zimmerman did not appear for Friday's hearings. Prosecuting and defense attorneys spoke to the judge via speakerphone.
 ::snipping2::

Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 13, 2012, 02:38:33 PM
Hi Monks...I was certain I would find a thread about this....interesting reading.  Y'all be good and don't take the rumors as fact ::MonkeyWink:: !! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 13, 2012, 02:39:51 PM
 ::MonkeyKiss:: Miz Bee


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 02:46:11 PM
Hi Monks...I was certain I would find a thread about this....interesting reading.  Y'all be good and don't take the rumors as fact ::MonkeyWink:: !! ::MonkeyCool::

Notice my sig line  ::MonkeyWink:: " Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."  - Daniel Moynihan


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 02:47:24 PM
::MonkeyKiss:: Miz Bee

Hey there Miz Sunny!   :sunny:  It's good to see you!!  ::bee::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 02:55:48 PM
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/judge-says-she-may-have-conflict-in-zimmerman-case-1.3659205
Judge says she may have conflict in Zimmerman case
April 13, 2012



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 03:03:07 PM
George Zimmerman & His Family Trying Raise Money For Bail Hearing

George Zimmerman and his family are desperately trying to raise money for his bail hearing in connection with the second-degree murder charge for killing 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.

The 28-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer could face life in prison and be hit with up to $10,000 in fines for the shooting death of the teen from Sanford, Florida that has caused outrage across the country since.

Zimmerman appeared in court on Thursday, and the judge set his arraignment for May 29, and a bail hearing has been set for April 20.

Zimmerman's father and extended family "are desperately trying to raise money for his bail hearing. This is why his attorney Mark O'Mara didn't ask for the hearing yesterday, they need time to get the money," a source close to the situation tells us.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/04/george-zimmerman-family-raising-bail-money-hearing



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 13, 2012, 03:41:47 PM
Hi Monks...I was certain I would find a thread about this....interesting reading.  Y'all be good and don't take the rumors as fact ::MonkeyWink:: !! ::MonkeyCool::

Notice my sig line  ::MonkeyWink:: " Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."  - Daniel Moynihan


Good one Miz Bee....I have been interested in this case because of the rumors and seemingly lack of facts.....it will be interested to see how it compares to the CA mess......  hopefully some lessons have been learned.  What do you think of the charge of second degree murder??


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Post by: SunnyinTX on April 13, 2012, 03:43:47 PM
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/judge-says-she-may-have-conflict-in-zimmerman-case-1.3659205
Judge says she may have conflict in Zimmerman case
April 13, 2012



I was really surprised when I heard the name of the Judge as I knew one of Mark Nejames partners had the same last name. Then to find out she is the wife of MN's partner...WOW...small world. I am going to ask MN is this also poses a conflict with him as a commentator....


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Post by: iluvmua on April 13, 2012, 04:00:51 PM
Is there a reason why this judge is being asked to step down?



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Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 04:34:02 PM
Is there a reason why this judge is being asked to step down?



It has to do with conflict of interest.  The judge could recuse herself also.
Insert Quote
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/judge-says-she-may-have-conflict-in-zimmerman-case-1.3659205
Judge says she may have conflict in Zimmerman case
April 13, 2012

 ::snipping2::
Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler said during a brief hearing in Sanford, Fla., that her husband works with an attorney who referred Zimmerman to his current defense attorney. Zimmerman's family originally had asked that attorney, Mark NeJame, to represent Zimmerman but NeJame instead referred them to lawyer Mark O'Mara.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Prosecutors-Zimmerman-did-not-use-racial-slur-3480073.php
Prosecutors: Zimmerman did not use racial slur
MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press
April 13, 2012

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Despite what some people think they heard, prosecutors say George Zimmerman did not utter a racial slur in his call to 911 on the night he shot Trayvon Martin.

The disputed words on the recording turned out to be "these f------ punks," prosecutors said in an affidavit filed Thursday in support of the murder charges brought against the neighborhood watch volunteer in the Feb. 26 slaying of the unarmed black teenager.

In yet another passage in the affidavit that caught the attention of those watching the racially charged case, prosecutors said Zimmerman "profiled" Martin just before the shooting. The document did not elaborate, and a spokeswoman for special prosecutor Angela Corey on Friday refused to explain it.

But legal experts warned that "profiling" does not necessarily mean "racial profiling." ''Profiling" is a common law enforcement practice of using a set of facts and circumstances to determine whether someone may be committing a crime. Police typically look at a person's behavior and appearance, as well as other factors.

In the Martin case, Zimmerman told a police dispatcher: "This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something." Zimmerman reported that the teenager had his hand in his waistband and was walking around, looking at homes in the gated community in Sanford, which had had several break-ins in the past year.
 ::snipping2::
After the release of the 911 recording in mid-March, the belief that Zimmerman muttered a racial slur fed suspicions that the killing was racially motivated and stoked demands that the U.S. Justice Department bring civil rights charges. News organizations used audio technology to enhance the 911 call and try to figure out what he said.

Prosecutors did not explain how they reached their conclusion. But Harry Shorstein, who was Corey's predecessor as state attorney in Jacksonville, said her team probably relied on audio enhancing from the FBI or the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Shorstein called such enhancing "an indefinite science." But Coffey said the fact that Corey inserted the exchange in the affidavit reflects her team's confidence that Zimmerman used the word "punks" and not the slur.
egal experts cautioned that the affidavit, the full text of which is available at http://apne.ws/Itn7Nu , is just a rough sketch of the prosecution's case and does not contain all the evidence. But Coffey said he did not see enough in the affidavit for the Justice Department to make a hate-crime case stick.

Nevertheless, Florida defense attorney Randy McClean said Zimmerman's use of the word "punks" and his profanity in describing Martin may help Florida prosecutors make the case that Zimmerman was the aggressor.

"It begs the question of who was the most likely aggressor," McClean said. "A teenager walking home ... or the person who believes the teenager he is observing is a 'f------ punk,' an 'ass----,' and getting away with something."

U.S. Justice Department spokeswoman Xochitl Hinojosa said the department is conducting its own, separate investigation, and she refused to comment on the special prosecutor's findings
 ::snipping2::

"When we see the word 'punks' and we connect that to the word 'profile,' I don't think that is compelling proof that it's racial profiling," said Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. attorney in Miami who is now in private practice. "This guy appeared to Zimmerman to meet the profile of a criminal."


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Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 06:59:13 PM
Martin Case Affidavit

I strongly disagree with David French’s analysis. I’m inclined, instead, to agree with commentators ranging from former Reagan Justice Department official Mark Levin to Harvard’s Alan Dershowitz that the affidavit is stunningly weak — “unethical,” as Prof. Dershowitz puts it. In fact, I go further (which, after nearly 20 years of writing and supervising the writing of complaint affidavits, I think I’m qualified to do). This affidavit is not law, it is agitprop: invoking, for example, the explosive term “profiled” but carefully avoiding any discussion of what it means and failing to note that (a) there is no evidence of racial profiling, and (b) absent an invidious racial component there is nothing wrong with profiling (indeed, we want police to do it so that innocent people don’t get hassled).
 
A few points:
 
1. David makes much of the fact that Zimmerman may have continued to follow Martin despite a dispatcher’s admonition to the contrary. But a citizen engaged in innocent behavior (including investigating a potential crime) is not required to heed a dispatcher’s advice. If Martin had disregarded the direction of a police officer on the scene, that might be different. But no one is required to act on a dispatcher’s direction, even if it would be prudent to do so. Bad judgment is not a crime.
 
2. David observes that we haven’t been informed of Zimmerman’s statements to the police and then oddly suggests that this is a fact in the prosecutor’s favor. There are ambiguities in the complaint that more information could have cleared up. The prosecutor has more information. Yet, she chose to leave matters ambiguous. That strongly suggests the additional information would hurt the prosecution’s case — a suggestion that is bolstered by the affidavit’s self-serving omission of any mention of Zimmerman’s injuries (and, for that matter, by the fact that the prosecutor chose not to submit the case to a grand jury but, instead, unilaterally decided to charge base on ambiguous allegations).   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295997/martin-case-affidavit-andrew-c-mccarthy


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Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 07:31:32 PM
Ole Miss law professor reacts to Zimmerman charge

OXFORD, MS -
(WMC-TV) - An Ole Miss Law Professor says the public needs to wait for all the facts before making judgments in the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

 After watching Reverend Kia Grandberry live on Action News 5 Thursday morning, Ole Miss law professor Samuel Davis was irritated with one of her comments about George Zimmerman.

 Davis said it is those types of remarks that are plaguing the case.

"Now that he's [Zimmerman] been arrested, we want a conviction," Grandberry said on Action News 5 Thursday morning.

 "That's what bothered me," Davis said.

 Take one look around Samuel Davis' office and you can see his passion for justice. Law books line his shelves and his desk is covered in bobble heads of past and current Supreme Court Justices.

 In this case, Davis worries that justice may be taking a backseat.

 "That's what bothers me about this case that there seems to be a rush to judgment," Davis said  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.wmctv.com/story/17402504/ole-miss-law-professor-reacts-to-zimmerman-charge


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Post by: Amys Sister on April 13, 2012, 07:42:14 PM
Martin Case Affidavit

I strongly disagree with David French’s analysis. I’m inclined, instead, to agree with commentators ranging from former Reagan Justice Department official Mark Levin to Harvard’s Alan Dershowitz that the affidavit is stunningly weak — “unethical,” as Prof. Dershowitz puts it. In fact, I go further (which, after nearly 20 years of writing and supervising the writing of complaint affidavits, I think I’m qualified to do). This affidavit is not law, it is agitprop: invoking, for example, the explosive term “profiled” but carefully avoiding any discussion of what it means and failing to note that (a) there is no evidence of racial profiling, and (b) absent an invidious racial component there is nothing wrong with profiling (indeed, we want police to do it so that innocent people don’t get hassled).
 
A few points:
 
1. David makes much of the fact that Zimmerman may have continued to follow Martin despite a dispatcher’s admonition to the contrary. But a citizen engaged in innocent behavior (including investigating a potential crime) is not required to heed a dispatcher’s advice. If Martin had disregarded the direction of a police officer on the scene, that might be different. But no one is required to act on a dispatcher’s direction, even if it would be prudent to do so. Bad judgment is not a crime.

2. David observes that we haven’t been informed of Zimmerman’s statements to the police and then oddly suggests that this is a fact in the prosecutor’s favor. There are ambiguities in the complaint that more information could have cleared up. The prosecutor has more information. Yet, she chose to leave matters ambiguous. That strongly suggests the additional information would hurt the prosecution’s case — a suggestion that is bolstered by the affidavit’s self-serving omission of any mention of Zimmerman’s injuries (and, for that matter, by the fact that the prosecutor chose not to submit the case to a grand jury but, instead, unilaterally decided to charge base on ambiguous allegations).   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295997/martin-case-affidavit-andrew-c-mccarthy

I have to disagree with his assessment of the bolded... If George profiled Trayvon as a criminal, and if he then followed Trayvon even when told not to, especially knowing from George's own words that he is at his wits end with these criminals in his neighborhood, then we have motive.  We all know motive is necessary for a murder conviction.


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Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 08:09:43 PM
Trayvon Martin case a trial by fire for rookie Sanford mayor

Gun Nation: Inside America's gun-carry culture
 
Triplett was with his two young sons in Tampa, Fla., watching them play football, when he first heard the name of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

“My phone just starts blowing up,” he says in an interview. Upon hearing that George Zimmerman wasn't arrested after shooting Trayvon, Triplett put his head in his hands in disbelief.

“What do you mean you didn’t arrest him?” he remembers thinking. “I don’t get it. I don’t understand.”

At that moment about a month ago, the harried, crisis-manager version of Triplett, a tall, rail-thin man who wears white dress shirts and unflashy ties, was born. For someone in his first political post, the learning curve was steep. He’d been mayor, a part-time position that pays $9,700 a year, for only about 15 months when Sanford the city became "Sanford the city where Trayvon died."

Since the shooting, Triplett has elected to take the equivalent of three weeks off from his full-time job as senior vice president of a community bank, to help guide Sanford through the maelstrom. His bankers’ hours ballooned into a series of demonstrations, briefing sessions, rallies, and nonstop media requests. Family dinners virtually ceased to exist. When a scheduled vacation rolled around, his wife, Brandi, left with the kids while Triplett remained. While he hasn’t received death threats and says he doesn’t feel unsafe, there have been, as he delicately puts it, a number of “interesting phone calls and e-mails.”

“I never thought that I would be front and center or that the city of Sanford would be front and center on a stage that has such long-ranging ramifications,” says Triplett, in a bass voice that is a hybrid of Southern drawl and southwest Missouri, where he grew up and went to college

Overnight, Triplett became the white mayor of a Southern city where racism and police brutality were allegedly endemic. On one of the Rev. Al Sharpton's many visits to Sanford, the activist compared the town with Selma and Birmingham, epicenters of the civil rights struggle. Ben Jealous, head of the NAACP, referred to the environment as “Jim Crow Esquire.” The New Black Panthers offered a bounty for Zimmerman's capture. A neo-Nazi group said it would patrol city streets. For local officials, all this attention was, well, new.

One of Triplett’s colleagues, City Commissioner Randy Jones, says mayors of Sanford have not traditionally grappled with mega issues such as racial profiling, Florida gun and self-defense laws, or the legacy of race relations in the South.

“We’re supposed to be dealing with rezones, and, do you have too many cats and dogs in your yard, and annexations,” says Mr. Jones. “It’s an absolutely unenviable situation.”

Depending on who is doing the talking, Triplett's response to the growing crisis is either an example of strong leadership under fire or the Machiavellian moves  ::snipping2:: 


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47045498/ns/us_news-christian_science_monitor/


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Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 08:41:02 PM
ZimDecision’ 2012: Jon Stewart Slams Trayvon Martin Media Circus

On Thursday night, Jon Stewart tackled “ZimDecision 2012″ — now that the George Zimmerman case is moving forward. Beginning with Wednesday’s announcement, Stewart moved on to criticizing the good old media. The segment descended into a over-the-top “report.” A sign of the chaotic media frenzy surrounding the trial that awaits us.
 
Stewart began by playing a clip from special prosecutor Angela Corey’s press conference, in which she announced the charges. He, like many did yesterday, mocked how long it took Corey to get to the actual charges.
 
He then moved on to the reactions to the second-degree murder charge. You know, from the people who matter the most: the media, of course. The montage ended with Nancy Grace making a “Tot Mom” reference (because Florida, or something).   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-slams-media-in-mock-zimdecision-2012-segment-covering-zimmerman-trial/


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Post by: Ono on April 13, 2012, 11:04:11 PM
Toler --- Appreciate the informative articles.     ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: grace-land on April 13, 2012, 11:40:44 PM
Slideshow at link

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/250579/19/Arrest-records-shine-a-little-light-on-Zimmerman

George Zimmerman arrest records shine a little light
10:26 AM, Apr 13, 2012

(CBS News) -- When George Zimmerman was booked into John E. Polk Correctional Facility in Seminole County, Florida, police took note of his tattoos, including "theatrical masks" on his left arm as well as a "Christina inside a cross" on his chest.
 
The world knows little about the man who shot and killed unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida, on February 26, but arrest and booking records shine a little light there.
 
In addition to mention of tattoos, the booking records say Zimmerman is "unemployed."

His arrest record states he was taken into custody in Sanford, although not at the location listed as his home address.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: Toler on April 13, 2012, 11:58:38 PM
Where’s the ‘Probable Cause’?
The affidavit in the Zimmerman case fails to justify a second-degree-murder charge.

The charges brought against George Zimmerman sure look like prosecutorial misconduct. The case as put forward by the prosecutor in the “affidavit of probable cause” is startlingly weak. As a former chief economist at the U.S. Sentencing Commission, I have read a number of such affidavits, and cannot recall one lacking so much relevant information. The prosecutor has most likely deliberately overcharged, hoping to intimidate Zimmerman into agreeing to a plea bargain. If this case goes to trial, Zimmerman will almost definitely be found “not guilty” on the charge of second-degree murder.
 
The prosecutor wasn’t required to go to the grand jury for the indictment, but the fact that she didn’t in such a high-profile case is troubling. Everyone knows how easy it is for a prosecutor to get a grand jury to indict, because only the prosecutor presents evidence. A grand-jury indictment would have provided political cover; that charges were brought without one means that the prosecutor was worried that a grand jury would not give her the indictment.
 
The affidavit consists of six main points:
 
● Zimmerman was upset about all “the break-ins in his neighborhood” and expressed anger at how criminals “always get away.”
 
● According to a discussion with Trayvon Martin’s girlfriend, who said that she was talking to Martin before the attack, Zimmerman followed Martin. He did so despite the police operator’s saying “we don’t need you to do that.”
 
● Zimmerman “confronted Martin and a struggle ensued,” though no evidence is cited on this point.
 
● Trayvon Martin’s mother identified the voice crying for help on a 9-1-1 call as her son’s.
 
● Zimmerman shot Martin in the chest, and this is confirmed by both Zimmerman’s statement and ballistics tests.
 
● Martin died from the gunshot wound.
 
Note some of the points that are missing. The prosecution doesn’t claim Zimmerman had racial animus against blacks. There was no “f***ing coons” on the police call. Some extremely relevant information from the police report is completely excluded: There is no mention of the grass and wetness found on the back of Zimmerman’s shirt, the gashes on the back of his head, the bloody nose, or the other witnesses who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, beating him, before the shot was fired. There is not even an attempt to say that the police report was in error; instead the affidavit just disregards it.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/295984/where-s-probable-cause-john-r-lott-jr


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Post by: Toler on April 14, 2012, 12:08:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9A-gp8mrdw&feature=player_detailpage

Hope I did this correctly?  ::monkeywine2::

911 call.


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Post by: Toler on April 14, 2012, 12:13:54 AM
http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf

Close to bottom of page most detailed LEO report.


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Post by: Toler on April 14, 2012, 12:30:03 AM
Al Sharpton, power player

The Rev. Al Sharpton is lord of all he surveys.

“Check out this,” the flamboyant civil rights leader told me during breakfast at his organization’s annual meeting this week. He flipped through the program until he found a full-page ad with the logos of Fox News, the New York Post and the Wall Street Journal. “News Corporation Proudly Supports National Action Network’s 2012 Convention,” it said.

Sharpton grinned. “They bash me on Fox News,” he said. “But they sponsor my conference.”

Everybody wants to be on Sharpton’s good side these days. No fewer than five Cabinet officers and a senior White House official went to this year’s convention to kiss his ring. President Obama spoke at last year’s conference and has sought Sharpton’s advice on policy. Sharpton has a show on MSNBC five nights a week, and he doles out airtime to a procession of politicians and journalists (including me).

Wednesday night brought the sweetest moment yet in Sharpton’s long and controversial career: the announcement that Florida authorities would charge Trayvon Martin’s shooter. Sharpton, at the request of the boy’s parents, had done more than anyone else to bring the case national attention.

Just hours before the announcement that George Zimmerman would be charged with second-degree murder, Martin’s parents held a joint news conference with Sharpton — and a few hours before that, Attorney General Eric Holder, also at the convention, praised Sharpton for his “tireless efforts to speak out for the voiceless, to stand up for the powerless.”  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/al-sharptons-second-act-power-player/2012/04/13/gIQAZT4wFT_story.html


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Post by: Toler on April 14, 2012, 12:55:40 AM
Without slur, what will George Zimmerman's words mean in Trayvon Martin case?


ORLANDO — Despite what some people think they heard, prosecutors say George Zimmerman did not utter a racial slur in his call to 911 on the night he shot Trayvon Martin.

The disputed words on the recording turned out to be "these f------ punks," prosecutors said in an affidavit filed Thursday in support of the second-degree murder charge brought against the neighborhood watch volunteer in the Feb. 26 slaying of the unarmed black teenager.

In yet another passage in the affidavit that caught the attention of those watching the racially charged case, prosecutors said Zimmerman "profiled" Martin just before the shooting. The document did not elaborate, and a spokeswoman for special prosecutor Angela Corey on Friday refused to explain it.

Legal experts warned that "profiling" does not necessarily mean "racial profiling." "Profiling" is a common law enforcement practice of using a set of facts and circumstances to determine whether someone may be committing a crime. Police typically look at a person's behavior and appearance, as well as other factors.

In the Martin case, Zimmerman told a police dispatcher: "This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something." He said the teenager had his hand in his waistband and was walking around, looking at homes in the gated community in Sanford, which had had several break-ins in the past year.

"When we see the word 'punks' and we connect that to the word 'profile,' I don't think that is compelling proof that it's racial profiling," said Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. attorney in Miami who is now in private practice. "This guy appeared to Zimmerman to meet the profile of a criminal."

He added: "Whether you're white, black or Hispanic. You have a hoodie. You're walking around."

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said the affidavit supported his contention that race wasn't a factor.  ::snipping2::

http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/without-slur-what-will-george-zimmermans-words-mean-in-trayvon-martin-case/1224957


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Post by: Toler on April 14, 2012, 01:18:28 AM
Justice for Trayvon
America has heard the calls for justice from a Florida family.


A boy’s blood had been spilled on a rain-soaked patch of grass behind a row of mustard-colored condominiums by a man who had pursued him against the advice of 911 dispatchers. That man carried a 9-millimeter handgun. The boy carried a bag of candy.

Yet it seems, largely on the weight of his own word, the man who killed the boy was allowed to walk out of the police station that night without even a charge.

The boy’s body was taken to the medical examiner’s office and kept in a morgue. The man who killed him was able to return home.

The dead boy was Trayvon Martin. The man who killed him was George Zimmerman. The bullet that passed between them silenced a child but ignited a nation.  ::snipping2::

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/14/opinion/blow-justice-for-trayvon.html?_r=1&comments


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Post by: seahorse on April 14, 2012, 03:03:15 AM
Hi Monkey's,

Question, please...Can you record a conversation on your cell phone?  TIA

A few interesting links, comments ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2012/04/13/trayvon-martin-case-looking-at-the-charge-against-george/#more-9897

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=1614

 ::MonkeyEek::

http://news.yahoo.com/artist-creates-zimmerman-portrait-skittles-034916286.html


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 14, 2012, 10:41:37 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57414081/strength-of-case-against-zimmerman-questioned/#postComments
Strength of case against Zimmerman questioned
By   Mark Strassmann
April 14, 2012

(CBS News) Now that George Zimmerman is behind bars facing murder charges for shooting Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla. on Feb. 26, there are questions about just how strong a case prosecutors have against him.

Special prosecutor Angela Corey's affidavit outlines her case, saying, Zimmerman "profiled" Martin as a suspicious person, and became the aggressor when he "disregarded the police dispatcher" on this call.
Corey said, "If (the) 'Stand Your Ground' (law) becomes an issue, we will fight it."

But many criminal trial lawyers in Orlando see nothing in the special prosecutor's affidavit that would convict Zimmerman.

Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law allows even the original aggressor in a fight to use deadly force - if that person becomes reasonably afraid of being killed or seriously hurt.
Trial lawyer Richard Hornsby has litigated 15 "Stand Your Ground" cases - none of them homicides - and won them all.

Hornsby told CBS News he thinks Corey's affidavit is more significant for what it leaves out than for what it includes.

"The moment George Zimmerman fired that shot is the key question in this entire case," Hornsby said. "Did he reasonably believe he had to fire that shot to defend himself? And the fact (Corey) completely left that out, begs the question, does she not have any evidence to refute his version of the events?"

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 14, 2012, 11:39:13 AM
1.  Miami Herald, The (FL) - March 22, 2012

Trayvon Martin: a typical teen who loved video games, looked forward to prom,  Trayvon Martin’s death gripped the nation, but in life he was a typical Miami teen who texted his friends, loved video games and saw his future in aviation. 

  Trayvon Martin spent his 17th birthday, which would be his last, with his family. He ate a home-cooked meal followed by cake, opened presents that included Levis jeans, Adidas sneakers and a bottle of Issey Miyake cologne. He would be 17 for 21 days.
 
 ::snipping2::

 ::justice2NJ::

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives

Typical?  Not in my world.

Does this mean that Trayvon Martin should be dead?  No.

Janet

++++++

Reports of suspensions paint more complicated picture of Trayvon Martin
Family attorney: ''Everyone trying to demonize" Sanford shooting victim
March 26, 2012


SANFORD — Miami Gardens teenager Trayvon Martin was suspended from school in October in an incident in which he was found in possession of women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that a schools security staffer described as a “burglary tool,” The Miami Herald has learned.

Trayvon, who claimed that an unnamed friend had given him the jewelry, was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald.

<snipped>

According to the report, on Oct. 21 staffers monitoring a security camera at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School spotted Trayvon and two other students writing “W.T.F.,” an acronym for “What the f---,” on a hallway locker, according to schools police. The security employee, who knew Trayvon, confronted the teen and looked through his bag for the graffiti marker.

Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.

Trayvon was asked if the jewelry, which was mostly women’s rings and earrings, belonged to his family or a girlfriend.
 
“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.
 
School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.
 
“Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by Miami-Dade Schools Police.

That suspension was followed four months later by another one, in February, in which Trayvon was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it, the boy’s family’s attorney has confirmed. A schools police report obtained by The Miami Herald specifies two items: a bag with marijuana residue and a “marijuana pipe.”

The suspension was the third for the teen. On Monday, the family also acknowledged Trayvon had earlier been suspended for tardiness and truancy.

<snipped>

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/sfl-reports-of-suspensions-paint-more-complicated-picture-of-trayvon-martin-20120326_1_suspensions-jewelry-report


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Post by: Tamikosmom on April 14, 2012, 12:33:11 PM
Cell phone records do confirm that Trayvon Martin was conversing with his "girlfriend" minutes prior to the altercation with George Zimmerman but ... somehow I doubt the alleged content of that conversation.  It took three weeks following the death of her "boyfriend" for the "girlfriend" to come forward to police and that only occurred after being contacted by the Martin attorney who had obtained Trayvon's cell phone records.

Why didn't the "girlfriend" contact 911 and/or Trayvon's parents when communication allegedly came to an abrupt end?  Why didn't the girlfriend immediately come forward to authorities and/or Trayvon's parents upon learning of Trayvon's death?  Could it be that the implication is that the "girlfriend" had no concern that her "boyfriend" was at risk at the end of that cell phone communcation?

Could it be that prior to coming forward to the police the "girlfriend" was coached by the Martin attorney and the coaching had everything to do with furthering a murder case against Zimmerman.

IMO

Janet

++++++

EXCLUSIVE: Robert Zimmerman interview
Updated: Thursday, 29 Mar 2012, 9:24 AM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 28 Mar 2012, 11:20 PM EDT


LAKE MARY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - For the first time since that fateful night on February 26, the father of a neighborhood watch volunteer who shot and killed an unarmed teenager sat down for a television interview.

Robert Zimmerman, father of George Zimmerman, said he decided it was time to speak out for his son, against the advice of others.   He shared with us what George said happened on the night that 17-year-old Trayvon Martin died.

<snipped>

When asked about the screams for help which were heard on a 911 call, Robert replied, "All of our family, everyone who knows George, knows absolutely that is George screaming. There's no doubt in anyone's mind."

As for accounts from Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, who claimed she was on the phone with Martin right before the altercation, he said, "I don't believe that happened. I don't believe she was on the phone with him, and I find it very strange with the publicity involved... that all of a sudden, after three weeks, someone would remember that they were on the phone."

<snipped>

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/032812-exclusive-robert-zimmerman-interview


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Post by: Toler on April 14, 2012, 02:05:59 PM
Trayvon killer George Zimmerman will seek release without bail

Trayvon Martin’s killer George Zimmerman will ask to be sprung from jail — without bail — at an upcoming court hearing, it was revealed yesterday.
 
“We’re going to start with asking for release on personal recognizance” at next Friday’s hearing in Florida, said Jimmy Woods, a spokesman for Zimmerman’s lawyer, Mark O’Mara.

If that doesn’t work, “we’re going to be requesting the lowest bail possible,” he said.
 
Zimmerman, 28, fatally shot Martin, 17, on Feb. 26 while following him in a gated Sanford, Fla., community after becoming suspicious of the black youth’s presence.
 
It took six weeks — and an outcry from across the nation — before he was finally charged with murder on Wednesday.
 
Defense lawyers unaffiliated with the case said they would be stunned if Zimmerman got out without bail on a charge of second-degree murder.
 
“That’s a pretty bold request,” said Florida attorney Eric Matheny.

“An ‘ROR’ is never going to happen,” he said, referring to the term being released on one’s own recognizance.
 
“You get ROR’ed when they shoplift at Macy’s — you don’t get it when you shoot and kill somebody  ::snipping2:: 


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/killer_spring_fever_vRXW6POHRSWu9lAP0ebKXN#ixzz1s2TPyJiw



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Post by: Toler on April 14, 2012, 02:10:25 PM
Justice for George Zimmerman

"Justice for Trayvon" is the rallying cry for those demanding George Zimmerman's immediate arrest in the shooting of Trayvon Martin. Yet forgotten in the rush to punish Zimmerman are the components of true justice: a presumption of innocence, dispassionate evaluation of the evidence, due process and color-blindness. Justice means justice for all, and that means both Martin and Zimmerman.

New evidence continues to complicate a case that the media initially portrayed as clear-cut, turning many Americans against Zimmerman. Let's survey the snags, not to discredit Martin's family's account but to illustrate just how little we know with certainty about Martin's death.

Did Zimmerman racially profile Martin in judging him "suspicious"? Here the distinction between racial profiling and holistic profiling is relevant. Zimmerman's friend Frank Taaffe said young black males had committed a string of recent robberies in the diverse neighborhood. Let's assume that is true. If Martin fit the profile of these specific suspects, was unfamiliar in the neighborhood, and was acting strangely in Zimmerman's mind by walking behind houses, then Zimmerman's judgment was appropriate. It remains uncertain whether Zimmerman, mentor to two black children, uttered a racial slur in his 911 call.

Although Zimmerman made a poor judgment in following Martin, it isn't clear that he wanted a confrontation. Zimmerman's father said his son was only trying to follow Martin until he could locate an address to give police.

Who started the confrontation is also unclear. Martin's family says Zimmerman caught up with, confronted and attacked Martin. Zimmerman's family says that after Zimmerman lost sight of Martin and turned back towards his vehicle, Martin confronted and attacked Zimmerman, breaking his nose and repeatedly smashing his head into the concrete. They say that Zimmerman only drew his weapon and shot Martin after Martin saw Zimmerman's gun in his waistband and verbally threatened Zimmerman's life.

Many claimed police video of Zimmerman that night revealed no clear injuries. Zimmerman, however, had already received first aid and the police report shows that he was bleeding from the nose and the back of his head when police arrived. ABC News recently enhanced the police video to reveal what ABC's Matt Gutman says appear to be "a pair of gashes or welts" on the back of Zimmerman's head. The medical records are not yet released.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wyatt-troia/justice-for-george-zimmerman_b_1406278.html



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Post by: tupelohoney on April 14, 2012, 02:38:24 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/radley-balko/prosecutor-power_b_1425084.html

The Unchecked Charging Power of the Prosecutor
Posted: 04/13/2012 10:53 pm



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Post by: cookie on April 14, 2012, 04:41:21 PM
Janet..I agree with you about the girlfriend and that something is not right about her story while being on the phone with trayvon...why didn't she call911?  Wouldn't she have heard the screams or what went on unless they had hung up before anything happened..I know that if I was fearful of my life,I would keep whomever I was talking to on the phone with me until I was safe,,,jmo.


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Post by: Amys Sister on April 14, 2012, 07:03:01 PM
There is no question George had injuries to the back of his head.  The media keep acting like there is.  Video clearly showed the back of his injured noggin.  There is no doubt a scuffle of some sort occurred.  Question is, who was the aggressor and how would each person's actions be interpreted by law.

A guest on Nancy Grace pointed out that if George's nose was broken it could have been kickback from firing his weapon while in an awkward position.

Trayvon may have been on top of George but even if he was, did George think he was in danger of being killed?  If George did think he was in danger of being killed because of his own paranoia, does that then mean Trayvon's death is permissable and forgivable under the law?

This is an important case to the future of the 'stand your ground' law assuming George's attorney uses it in his defense, and I think he has no choice but to do just that. 


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Post by: cookie on April 14, 2012, 10:02:49 PM
I don't think that GZ set out to kill Trayvon or anyone else for that matter..I think that things got out of control. I don't think that Trayvon attacked George. I think that he was scared and was protecting himself. I would have been really scared if a stranger was following me..
We will see once all the facts come out. Bottom line for me, GZ had already called the police, they were on their way. He should have stayed in his vehicle and let LE take care of it...
He wouldn't be in the mess that he is in and Trayvon would not be dead.
As far as profiling goes, I think that most people do that if given a description of a person in who has been breaking into homes in their area...it could be a white guy with red hair and a scraggly beard...then we would take a closer look at red headed white guys who we don't know from our neighborhood..know what I mean? Is that considered profiling? I think it would be..but it is not racial...


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Post by: Tamikosmom on April 14, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
I don't think that GZ set out to kill Trayvon or anyone else for that matter..I think that things got out of control. I don't think that Trayvon attacked George. I think that he was scared and was protecting himself. I would have been really scared if a stranger was following me..
We will see once all the facts come out. Bottom line for me, GZ had already called the police, they were on their way. He should have stayed in his vehicle and let LE take care of it...
He wouldn't be in the mess that he is in and Trayvon would not be dead.
As far as profiling goes, I think that most people do that if given a description of a person in who has been breaking into homes in their area...it could be a white guy with red hair and a scraggly beard...then we would take a closer look at red headed white guys who we don't know from our neighborhood..know what I mean? Is that considered profiling? I think it would be..but it is not racial...

BINGO!!

I do not think that George Zimmerman considered for one minute that following Trayvon Martin until the police arrived would have created the chain of events that ended in the tragic death of this young man.

Janet



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Post by: seahorse on April 15, 2012, 12:48:43 PM
George Zimmerman Settles In At County Jail, Buys Playing Cards And Jolly Ranchers
Posted: 04/13/2012 1:48 pm Updated: 04/13/2012 1:59 pm


 John E. Polk Correctional Facility

His cell is about 67 square feet. There's a toilet and two beds, a pillow and some sheets. But he has no television or roommate: Because of the "high profile nature" of the case against him, Zimmerman is in a segregated unit, according to the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.

Zimmerman, 28, will get three meals a day: breakfast at 4:00 a.m., lunch at 10:30 a.m. and dinner at 4:00 p.m. He'll also get three hours of recreation time per week, weather permitting.

He has been in custody since Wednesday evening, but he has wasted no time in making his stay a bit more comfortable, according to the sheriff’s office.

snip

According to a handout for inmates at the jail, use of the commissary is "a privilege and not a right," and inmates "will normally be allowed to order from the commissary two times per week." Only those on an inmate's visitation list are allowed to deposit money in their commissary account.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Interesting that only visitors are permitted to deposit money into the account, reportly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/13/george-zimmerman-makes-hi_n_1423849.html



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Post by: Toler on April 15, 2012, 12:52:52 PM
The Retreat at Twin Lakes
Our Neighborhood Watch leads to four arrests in burglaries in the RTL. Great job! This is why we need more residents calling the Sanford PD Non-emergency number to report suspicious activity.
Like · Comment · February 12 at 8:34am · Melissa Michele, George Zimmerman, Jaime Lynn Magnetico and 3 others like this.

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=facebook+%2fre%e2%80%8btreatattwinlakes&d=4552223466198274&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=65c67e23,e48b09ae

Cached page, HOA website.


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Post by: San on April 15, 2012, 02:30:05 PM
Bill Cosby: Trayvon Martin case is about guns, not race
 
Legendary comedian says calling George Zimmerman a racist doesn't solve anything

By Philip Caulfield / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Sunday, April 15, 2012, 1:01 PM
Updated: Sunday, April 15, 2012, 1:01 PM


(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1058180.1333906018!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg)
Bill Cosby in 2011. The 74-year-old comedian has said that the Trayvon Martin case shows a need to get guns off the streets.

Legendary entertainer Bill Cosby said the national uproar over the killing of teen Trayvon Martin should be over guns, not race.

In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" that aired Sunday, Cosby said calling George Zimmerman a racist was pointless.

"What is solved by saying, 'He's a racist, that's why he shot the boy'?" Cosby said.

Since first speaking out about the case earlier this month, Cosby has repeatedly said that the Feb. 26 slaying of the unarmed teen shows there is a need to get guns off the streets.

"When a person has a gun, sometimes their mind clicks, that this thing will win arguments and straighten people out," Cosby told CNN.

"I'm not saying you can't have it in your home to protect yourself... you've got to protect yourself in your own home," he added.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bill-coby-trayvon-martin-case-guns-race-article-1.1062006#ixzz1s8Q43Maq



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Post by: cookie on April 15, 2012, 04:09:36 PM
I am sure that there will be those who will call Mr. Cosby an Uncle Tom...
I call him an honorable, peaceful,level headed guy...he should be admired and a role model IMO...


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Post by: cw618 on April 15, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
speaking about guns,was the gun that GZ used,legal and registered to him
sorry if this has been covered


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Post by: cookie on April 15, 2012, 05:57:31 PM
 ::MonkeyGavel::
speaking about guns,was the gun that GZ used,legal and registered to him
sorry if this has been covered

I read/heard that he had the right to have a concealed weapon.  Soooooo I am assuming that since there has not been a huge uproar on the fact that he had an illegal gun that it must have been registered..but I could not say 100%


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Post by: seahorse on April 15, 2012, 07:04:47 PM
I am sure that there will be those who will call Mr. Cosby an Uncle Tom...
I call him an honorable, peaceful,level headed guy...he should be admired and a role model IMO...

 ::rhino::


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Post by: grace-land on April 15, 2012, 08:44:30 PM
Video at link

http://www.inquisitr.com/220412/bill-cosby-george-zimmerman-comments-killing-unarmed-trayvon-martin/

Bill Cosby Comments On George Zimmerman’s Killing Of Unarmed Trayvon Martin
Posted: April 15, 2012

Bill Cosby’s comments on George Zimmerman in regards to the Trayvon Martin case via CNN Transcript:
 
Candy Crowley: So you saw more a gun issue than a race issue?

Cosby: How are you going to solve a race issue when it becomes he said, she said or he said, he said? And the other question is, what is solved by saying he’s a racist that’s why he shot the boy? What solves that? This. [Makes gun symbol with hand] And what is he doing with it? And who taught him and told him how to behave with this? It doesn’t make any difference if he’s a racist or not racist. If he’s scared to death and not a racist, it’s still a confrontational provoking of something.
 
I don’t know what happened, but I know that this — I used to have a gun. The policeman who okayed it said to me, “Mr. Cosby, when you pull this trigger, you can’t call it back.” And so I had the gun in my pocket. And the reason why I had it was to protect my family. But I also knew that anything that went on outside–and it appeared to be something that wasn’t on the OK, I went out with my gun. And the thought was if this person is not right or if that doesn’t move when I say move, I’m going to show that I have a gun.
 
Cosby goes onto say:
 ::snipping2::

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/220412/bill-cosby-george-zimmerman-comments-killing-unarmed-trayvon-martin/#TjLMf4yfIawK8gVO.99


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Post by: Tamikosmom on April 15, 2012, 08:49:56 PM
I am sure that there will be those who will call Mr. Cosby an Uncle Tom...
I call him an honorable, peaceful,level headed guy...he should be admired and a role model IMO...

 ::rhino::

It must be difficult for a well-known African American to make an public position on this issue ... a public position that is contrary to the majority.  Bill Cosby would have spared himself a lot of grief in regards to a possible backlash if he had either sucked up to the majority or ... kept quiet.  Obviously ... his conscience prevented him from doing either.

Janet

+++++


The Man In The Glass

When you get what you want in your struggle for self
And the world makes you king for a day,
Just go to the mirror and look at yourself
And see what that man has to say.

For it isn't your father or mother or wife
Whose judgment upon you must pass.
The fellow whose verdict counts most in you life
Is the one staring back from the glass.

You may be like Jack Horner and chisel a plum
And think you're a wonderful guy.
But the man in the glass says you're only a bum
If you can't look him straight in the eye.

He's the fellow to please-never mind all the rest,
For he's with you clear to the end.
And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test
If the man in the glass is your friend.

You may fool the whole world down the pathway of years
And get pats on the back as you pass.
But your final reward will be heartache and tears
If you've cheated the man in the glass.

Peter "Dale" Winbrow Sr

   


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Post by: grace-land on April 15, 2012, 08:56:15 PM
http://www.sfltimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9719&Itemid=331

After Zimmerman arrest, activists look to gun laws
Sunday, April 15, 2012 7:48:24 PM

MIAMI (AP) _ The civil rights groups that turned outrage over Trayvon Martin's death into action say their work is far from over now that his killer has been charged with second-degree murder. Next, they hope to harness the activism to challenge Florida's ``stand your ground'' law and similar statutes in 24 other states.
 
But they also worry about maintaining their momentum during what could be a long judicial process and translating it into political action that could help sway lawmakers. The leaders plan to use churches, social media and other means to rally the movement that has already prompted protesters to take to the streets in several major cities.

``Arresting Zimmerman is the beginning of the process. This is a first down, not a touchdown,'' the Rev. Jesse Jackson told The Associated Press this week from Houston, where he was talking to black church leaders about the Martin case, Florida's gun law and racial profiling.
 ::snipping2::
Martin's parents say that they plan to keep up their efforts even if Zimmerman is convicted.

``We would just like for the world to know that we will continue to fight for other Trayvons out there,'' his father Tracy Martin recently told the AP. ``This just doesn't stop with our child.''
  ::snipping2::

 


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Post by: grace-land on April 15, 2012, 09:04:50 PM
http://thyblackman.com/2012/04/15/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-mother-needs-to-step-aside/

George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin Mother Needs to Step Aside.
April 15, 2012 by Staff   

(ThyBlackMan.com) I haven’t spoken with Rev. Al Sharpton in a few months.  But if we were still speaking and he were to ask me what to do with the mother of Trayvon Martin, my answer would be very simple:
 
Get her off the stage right now.
 
Trayvon Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, appeared on “The Today Show” this week and actually said that she thinks that George Zimmerman, 28, shot her son by accident.
 
One of the things that I still believe in, a person should apologize when they are actually remorseful for what they’ve done. I believe it was an accident. I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn’t turn the clock back. I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager, and that he did not have a weapon?”

When I heard these words, I froze in my tracks.  I couldn’t believe that Trayvon Martin’s mother would make a statement that was in such stark contradiction to the charges being brought forth by the prosecutor.  In fact,  there’s a big part of me that wonders why she was on the show at all.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: Tamikosmom on April 15, 2012, 09:17:23 PM
http://thyblackman.com/2012/04/15/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-mother-needs-to-step-aside/

George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin Mother Needs to Step Aside.
April 15, 2012 by Staff   

(ThyBlackMan.com) I haven’t spoken with Rev. Al Sharpton in a few months.  But if we were still speaking and he were to ask me what to do with the mother of Trayvon Martin, my answer would be very simple:
 
Get her off the stage right now.
 
Trayvon Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, appeared on “The Today Show” this week and actually said that she thinks that George Zimmerman, 28, shot her son by accident.
 
One of the things that I still believe in, a person should apologize when they are actually remorseful for what they’ve done. I believe it was an accident. I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn’t turn the clock back. I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager, and that he did not have a weapon?”

When I heard these words, I froze in my tracks.  I couldn’t believe that Trayvon Martin’s mother would make a statement that was in such stark contradiction to the charges being brought forth by the prosecutor.  In fact,  there’s a big part of me that wonders why she was on the show at all.
 ::snipping2::


A Denial

NANCY GRACE
Aired April 12, 2012 - 20:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE:  .... I want to go back to you, Miss Fulton. A lot of brouhaha has been made over you saying you thought this was an accident. And I want to give you a chance to explain to people that are stirring the pot about what you meant.

FULTON: I believe what I said was taken out of context. What I actually meant when I made that statement is I was just piggybacking on something that Tracy had mentioned before. He had just said that Zimmerman had gotten out of his vehicle. And what I was -- the point that I was trying to make was that if Zimmerman had never gotten out of his vehicle he would not have met Trayvon. And I said that encounter was accidental. That Trayvon meeting Zimmerman was accidental.

It was in no way, shape, form, or fashion did I imply that this was an accident, that the shooting was an accident. I don`t believe that it was an accident. I believe he got out of his vehicle, he had an intent in his mind, and he carried out the intent. And that`s why my son is no longer with us.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/12/ng.01.html




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Post by: grace-land on April 15, 2012, 09:18:48 PM
Four-page article

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20120415trayvon_martins_parents_finding_solace_in_activism/srvc=home&position=recent

Trayvon Martin’s parents finding solace in activism
By Frances Robles / The Miami Herald
Sunday, April 15, 2012 - Added 3 hours ago

On the morning a grand jury was supposed to convene to deliberate on the Trayvon Martin case, the slain teenager’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, started her day as she has so many others these past six weeks: at 7 a.m., on live national television.

She repeated answers to the same tired questions with poise. She pretended it did not irk her to be asked again and again: "What would you say to George Zimmerman?" Fulton gave a dozen back-to-back interviews that day, often invoking the Bible verse from Proverbs that got her through the crushing grief in the public eye: "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding."
 
"I am not doing this for fun," Fulton said later. "I am doing this for a purpose. I know the purpose I am doing it for, and it pushes me forward, giving me the force to go ahead and put my clothes on and do it."
 
After six weeks of rallies, news conferences and television interviews, Fulton finally fulfilled her purpose Wednesday, when Zimmerman, the man who killed her 17-year-old son, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder. The arrest underscored the effectiveness of a soft-spoken woman who, together with her ex-husband and team of attorneys, embarked on an uphill mission and created a movement.
 ::snipping2::
Fulton, 46, is on leave from her job as a program coordinator at the Miami-Dade Housing Authority. She started working there when she was 23.
 
It was her job to prepare the former residents of the Scott Carver Housing projects to live elsewhere. She worked as a code enforcement officer, helped set up financial self-sufficiency programs and worked with homeowner associations. She’s used to dealing with single moms surrounded by violence and poverty.
 
She studied English and communications at Grambling State University and Florida Memorial College, both historically black colleges. Fulton graduated from Norland High School and had the kind of upbringing that included field trips to NASA. She tried to offer her son the kind of middle-class perks she enjoyed as a child - horseback riding, skiing, Broadway shows.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: grace-land on April 15, 2012, 10:24:48 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/04/george-zimmerman-case-will-be-won-or-lost-in-jury-selection-jose-baez-says.html

George Zimmerman: Case will be won or lost in jury selection, Jose Baez says
CNN, Caylee and Casey Anthony, Jose Baez, MSNBC, NBC, NBC Nightly News, Trayvon Martin — posted by halboedeker on April, 13 2012 9:01 AM

Jose Baez, who successfully defended Casey Anthony, was analyzing the case against George Zimmerman on Friday morning for CNN. Baez was agreeing with Professor Alan Dershowitz that the prosecutors’ probable-cause affidavit is very thin. Neighborhood Watch volunteer Zimmerman has said he shot Trayvon in self-defense.
 ::snipping2::
On CNN, Baez saw the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman as a long shot and predicted that the defense will attack the testimony of Trayvon’s girlfriend, who was on the phone with the teen before he was shot to death. “By far, that is the strongest piece of evidence,” Baez said.   
 
“This case is going to be won and lost in jury selection,” Baez told Soledad O’Brien. He predicted that jury selection could run three to four weeks and be substantially longer than the trial itself. “It would be insanity to try it in Seminole County,” Baez added.
 ::snipping2::
--------------------------

I know, I know...I can't believe that I posted comments from JB.  On my way to take an aspirin and ...  ::MonkeyBike::


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Post by: grace-land on April 16, 2012, 01:25:37 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/16/business/media/george-zimmerman-trial-could-start-a-news-swarm.html

Trial in Martin Case, Filled With High Emotion, Would Draw a News Swarm
Published: April 15, 2012

The Orlando Sentinel’s Twitter account for the Trayvon Martin case is up and running. So, too, is its topics page, with links to all the newspaper’s articles about Mr. Martin and the man who shot and killed him, George Zimmerman, as well as video clips of its reporters talking about the case on television. A Facebook page will go online on Monday. And a Web video series might be next.

For The Sentinel, the story is local; the shooting of Mr. Martin happened in Sanford, a suburb of Orlando. But the newspaper senses an opportunity to reach a national and even international audience with online coverage. It is competing with all manner of national media, which have seized on the story with a ferocity that has already drawn comparisons to the Casey Anthony trial and, years before it, that of O.J. Simpson.
 ::snipping2::
In explaining the intense interest in the case, Mr. Morgan, Mr. Wald and other reporters, editors and executives cited the potent issues involved: self-defense, gun violence, police competency and, of course, race, because Mr. Martin was black and Mr. Zimmerman is Hispanic.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: jamcakes on April 16, 2012, 01:36:55 PM
I'm so glad that the judge sealed the evidence in the trial.  It's sad that the media is petitioning to have it unsealed.  MSM needs to step back and analyze what they do on a daily basis to the minds of Americans, instead.  I'm sick of the media twisting a story to fit their agenda instead of just reporting the facts. Heck, MSM probably wouldn't know a fact anymore even if it jumped up and smacked them.

MSM doesn't see or doesn't care that they have stripped GZ of his constitutional rights to a fair and speedy trial. Look at what they did to Richard Jewell in Atlanta after the Centennial Olympic bombing. I was appalled at what Nancy Grace and others tried to do to the memory of Whitney Houston. IMO, most MSM has devolved into tabloid sensationalism.

As Jack Friday would say, "Just the facts, mam, just the facts."


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Post by: cookie on April 16, 2012, 01:45:26 PM
I'm so glad that the judge sealed the evidence in the trial.  It's sad that the media is petitioning to have it unsealed.  MSM needs to step back and analyze what they do on a daily basis to the minds of Americans, instead.  I'm sick of the media twisting a story to fit their agenda instead of just reporting the facts. Heck, MSM probably wouldn't know a fact anymore even if it jumped up and smacked them.


MSM doesn't see or doesn't care that they have stripped GZ of his constitutional rights to a fair and speedy trial. Look at what they did to Richard Jewell in Atlanta after the Centennial Olympic bombing. I was appalled at what Nancy Grace and others tried to do to the memory of Whitney Houston. IMO, most MSM has devolved into tabloid sensationalism.

As Jack Friday would say, "Just the facts, mam, just the facts."


 ::rhino::


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Post by: grace-land on April 16, 2012, 01:59:04 PM
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/george-zimmermans-attorney-to-file-motion-to-remove-2307768.html

George Zimmerman's attorney to file motion to remove judge from case
Updated: 9:15 a.m. Monday, April 16, 2012
Posted: 9:07 a.m. Monday, April 16, 2012

SEMINOLE COUNTY — The attorney for George Zimmerman is expected to file a motion to try to get the judge in the second-degree murder case removed on Monday.
 ::snipping2::
Recksiedler, who has only been a judge nine months, was chosen at random to oversee the trial, according to court officials.
 
But it does not sound like she has plans to recuse herself from the case.

"If you do choose to file a motion to disqualify me as the judge of course Mr. O'Mara that has to be filed in writing," said Recksiedler.
 
O'Mara said he's filing the motion so that a new judge can be put in place before Friday.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 16, 2012, 02:07:33 PM
based on what we know so far, and that's not too much given the media spin and everything, i wouldn't be able to find him guilty of anything higher than manslaughter.  I just have a feeling like so many others have said that this is going to turn into a huge race war, worst than it already has.  I would hate to be on that jury. I hope they don't feel pressured to convict becuase of fear of the black panthers, al sharpton, jesse jackson and company.

My thoughts exactly.

Janet


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Post by: grace-land on April 16, 2012, 02:10:46 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/16/2751754/miami-herald-other-media-outlets.html

Posted on Monday, 04.16.12
Miami Herald, other media outlets sue to unseal George Zimmerman court documents

The Miami Herald and other media outlets are asking a judge to unseal court documents in the case of George Zimmerman, charged with the second-degree murder of Trayvon Martin in Sanford.

In a motion filed Monday, the press asked that a Seminole County circuit judge reconsider a decision made last week to seal the court file, which in Florida is normally a public record.
 ::snipping2::

In a first appearance hearing Thursday, Zimmerman’s defense attorney asked that court records in the case be sealed because of the unprecedented publicity surrounding the case. Prosecutors agreed and the judge quickly signed off on the request.

But in a motion filed Monday, lawyers for the news agencies pointed out that the lawyers never notified the media organizations of their request to seal documents, and never showed actual evidence that a future jury would be prejudiced by the coverage.

“The closure order and the manner in which it was entered are contrary to law,” the motion reads.
 ::snipping2::

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/16/2751754/miami-herald-other-media-outlets.html#storylink=cpy


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Post by: Tamikosmom on April 16, 2012, 02:18:20 PM
Has George Zimmerman's attorney has launched a lawsuit against NBC.

The apology was directed at NBC's views; not George Zimmerman.  Despicable!

Janet

+++++


NBC issues apology for edited Zimmerman 911 call
Published April 03, 2012


<snipped>

NBC’s “Today” show ran the edited audio of Zimmerman’s phone call to a police dispatcher, seeming to show Zimmerman saying, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good … he looks black.”

A transcript of the complete 911 call shows that Zimmerman said, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.”

The 911 officer responded saying, “OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?”

“He looks black,” Zimmerman said.

The abridged conversation between Zimmerman and the dispatcher that NBC ran on March 27 has been blasted by media watchdog groups as misleading. Critics have said the edited version was made to suggest that Zimmerman targeted Martin because he was black — an accusation by many that is still under investigation.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/03/nbc-issues-apology-edited-zimmerman-11-call/



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Post by: MuffyBee on April 16, 2012, 02:22:03 PM
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/
April 16, 2012

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Post by: Toler on April 16, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
Trayvon Martin: Mom says God will hold George Zimmerman accountable

Trayvon Martin’s mother discusses her faith as a Christian in an interview Tuesday on “Anderson.” The same program features Mark O’Mara, the lawyer for George Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder in Trayvon’s death. O’Mara says he hasn’t discussed the night of the shooting with his client.
 
“Anderson,” featuring CNN’s Anderson Cooper, airs at 2 p.m. weekdays on WESH-Channel 2. Judge Jeanine Pirro and legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin will discuss the case with Cooper.
 
Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon’s mom, calls herself a God-fearing woman who doesn’t hate anyone.
 
“I think a lot of people would find it hard not to hate somebody who had shot their son,” Anderson Cooper says.
 
“I’m probably not like most people,” Fulton says. “I have a strong faith in God and I know that he sits high and looks low and that even if the justice system doesn’t hold George Zimmerman accountable for what he’s done, God will.”
 
Cooper asks if she would be OK with Zimmerman getting bail.
 
“I am going to let the justice system takes its course and that’s just a regular process so we don’t have any objections to it. That’s just a regular process,” Fulton says.
 
O’Mara tells Cooper that he hasn’t heard Zimmerman’s version of events.
 


“We have discussed a few things but again I have a luxury of maintaining ignorance for another week or so,” O’Mara says. “I haven’t seen the information and I just think it’s a better conversation if I have all the information as I begin my conversation with my client.”
 
Cooper asks: “So when you say you haven’t seen the information you mean the prosecutor has not given you the facts that she has based on their fact finding?”
 
O’Mara replies: “Correct our rules suggest that I could get discovery beginning 15 days after arraignment. Right now arraignment is set for May 29th. That could be as late as June 15th. However, Ms. [Angela] Corey has, to her credit, worked out a schedule were I’ll be starting to get that information beginning the end of this week, mostly next week, so she is willing to accelerate it but I do not have it as we sit here today."   ::snipping2:: 

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/04/trayvon-martin-mom-says-god-will-hold-george-zimmerman-accountable.html


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Post by: jamcakes on April 16, 2012, 02:40:04 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/16/fair-trial-for-zimmerman-not-likely-on-home-turf-say-legal-experts/

Fair trial for Zimmerman not likely on home turf, say legal experts

Published April 16, 2012


Inflamed emotions and intense media coverage will make it extremely difficult for George Zimmerman to get a fair trial in the Florida community where he is accused of murder in the racially charged shooting death of Trayvon Martin, top legal experts told FoxNews.com.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/16/fair-trial-for-zimmerman-not-likely-on-home-turf-say-legal-experts/

Zimmerman, 28, was charged with second-degree murder last week in the shooting of the 17-year-old Martin in a gated community near Orlando. A six-week delay in Zimmerman’s arrest inspired protests nationwide – with many claiming the unarmed black teenager’s killing was racially motivated. Numerous celebrities spoke out against Zimmerman and even President Obama weighed in on the case, saying that if he had a son, he “would look like Trayvon.”

Those factors could make it hard to empanel an impartial jury in Sanford, Fla., according to Harvard Law Prof. Alan Dershowitz, who advised the O.J. Simpson legal team and whose defense of  Claus Von Bulow inspired the film “Reversal of Fortune.”

“I do not believe that Zimmerman could get a fair trial in the location where the alleged crime occurred,” said Dershowitz. “For me, the major criteria of a fair trial is could a juror who voted to acquit feel safe back in his community, feel that he wouldn’t be hassled or criticized by community members.”

Mark Bederow, a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor with the Manhattan district attorney’s office, said the apparent bias in media coverage of the case makes it difficult to find jurors who haven’t already formed opinions about Zimmerman’s guilt or innocence. 

“When media is distorting the actual information, that’s very concerning,” said Bederow, who pointed specifically to NBC News’ running of an edited 911 call made by Zimmerman.

NBC's "Today" show ran the edited audio of Zimmerman's phone call to a police dispatcher in which Zimmerman says: "'This guy looks like he's up to no good … he looks black."

    “I do not believe that Zimmerman could get a fair trial in the location where the alleged crime occurred.”

- Alan Dershowitz

But the audio recording in its entirety reveals that Zimmerman did not volunteer the information that Martin was black. Instead, Zimmerman was answering a question from a police dispatcher about the race of the "suspicious person" whom Zimmerman was speaking about.

“By deliberately doctoring the 911 calls in order to make it appear that Zimmerman was a racist in order to advance the racial component of the story, NBC perpetrated a fraud upon the American public to the great detriment of Zimmerman’s ability to receive a fair trial,” Bederow told FoxNews.com.

Finding jurors in the community who have not made up their minds will require casting a wide net, said Lawrence Lustberg, a former federal public defender and New Jersey-based criminal defense lawyer .

“Jury selection is extremely important… it’s an enormous challenge,” said Lustberg, who noted other potential challenges like “evidentiary issues” over what is admissible in court.

 ::snipping2::

the most critical factor in every case is the quality of the legal representation.

“The single most important thing as to whether you get a fair trial is who’s the prosecutor, who’s the defense attorney and who’s the judge?” he said.




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 16, 2012, 03:22:26 PM
based on what we know so far, and that's not too much given the media spin and everything, i wouldn't be able to find him guilty of anything higher than manslaughter.  I just have a feeling like so many others have said that this is going to turn into a huge race war, worst than it already has.  I would hate to be on that jury. I hope they don't feel pressured to convict becuase of fear of the black panthers, al sharpton, jesse jackson and company.

 ::rhino::

Could it be that a jury ANYWHERE in America would be intimidated into finding Zimmerman guilty as charged despite contrary evididence to avoid a mob backlash ... a mob backland led by influencial Black leaders ... a mob backlash that would make the life of each member a literally h--- on earth?

Jane

+++++t

Fair trial for Zimmerman not likely on home turf, say legal experts
Published April 16, 2012


<snipped>

Those factors could make it hard to empanel an impartial jury in Sanford, Fla., according to Harvard Law Prof. Alan Dershowitz, who advised the O.J. Simpson legal team and whose defense of  Claus Von Bulow inspired the film “Reversal of Fortune.”

“I do not believe that Zimmerman could get a fair trial in the location where the alleged crime occurred,” said Dershowitz. “For me, the major criteria of a fair trial is could a juror who voted to acquit feel safe back in his community, feel that he wouldn’t be hassled or criticized by community members.”

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/16/fair-trial-for-zimmerman-not-likely-on-home-turf-say-legal-experts/


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Post by: Toler on April 16, 2012, 05:34:42 PM
CBS's Case For Zimmerman's Racism Cites Zimmerman Standing Up to Police for Black Homeless Man



Still 39 in a case where the defendant looks increasingly likely to be acquitted, CBS' Face the Nation yesterday featured activists Michael Eric Dyson and Touré, along with correspondent Marc Strassmann, accusing George Zimmerman of racial motivations in shooting Trayvon Martin.
 
Strassmann is noteworthy because he was the first national television reporter to cover the case, on CBS This Morning, and did not--contrary to the Associated Press, which followed up on the story--mistakenly report Zimmerman's race as "white." That error helped create a myth that was subsequently inflamed by Al Sharpton of MSNBC into a national outrage--and Strassmann now seems to buy into it as well.
 
Strassmann, Dyson, and Touré, unable to accuse Zimmerman directly of racism, tried to associate him with the broader problem of prejudice in American society--and in Sanford, Florida, where the death occurred:
 

MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Right. And-- and let's look at the predictability of the pattern here. It is not the case that young white men in hoodies have been assaulted or who are dressed of the inappropriate fashion. Don't forget, Bob, that dress for African-American people has always signified beyond fashion or sartorial splendor. How we dress is an indication of where we stand in society. Remember, right after slavery, black people got dressed in extravagant fashion and that caused great resentment to-- for white Americans who believed that black people were being uppity because they were trying to out-dress their status.
 
Now it is the case that whatever hoods we wear, sagging pants, those become part of the folklore of American racism because it now signifies to white America that this is a hood, this is a thug, and the suspicion that is cast not only on Trayvon Martin. Look at the President of the United States of America. Here is a guy who do it the right way. He went to Harvard, he's the President. Look at the-- the ready-- the-- the steady stream of racism and bigotry--
 
TOURE: He's threatening Jan Brewer.
 
MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: -- the- the-- the stereotypes that prevail, right, I'm afraid of him, he's a-- he's a moron, he's an orangutan, he's an animal. Look at all of that.
 
TOURE: And we see that-- I mean, we see that when George Zimmerman is talking to the 911 operator, he's threatening, he's on drugs, he's got his hand in his pants, ergo, he's got a gun. So-- and we see this constantly that young black men are viewed as threatening, something to be feared, on drugs, they are out of their mind, they are dehumanized quickly. And this is profiling, which-- you know, which Angela Corey noted right away. So yes, it is mistaken identity in that you're mistaking an innocent person for a criminal.
 
MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Absolutely.
 
MARK STRASSMANN: The other-- that's America's history. In Sanford, their history too had been-- there have been a lot of suspicion by the minority community in Sanford toward the police department. A couple of years ago, a homeless black man had been beaten up on videotape. For three weeks nobody was arrested and it turned out the assailant was the police lieutenant's son with the Sanford PD. So there was change at the top of Sanford PD, and now here we got the new chief who is dealing with many of the same issues that the old chief had to deal with-- that is these racial tensions that have existed in this town and that is where we are today.
 
The problem for Strassmann, Dyson, and Touré is that Strassmann's handpicked example, the assault on a homeless black man, was one in which Zimmerman had been directly involved--as a member of the public urging local police to discipline the officers responsible, i.e. leading efforts to fight racism in Sanford.
 
As the Daily Caller reported on April 4:
 

In late 2010 and early 2011 George Zimmerman, the Hispanic Sanford, Fla., man who shot and killed 17-year-old black teen Trayvon Martin, publicly demanded discipline in a race-related beating case for at least two of the police officers who cleared him after the Feb. 26 altercation, according to records obtained by The Daily Caller.
 
In a letter to Seminole County NAACP president Turner Clayton, a member of the Zimmerman family wrote that George was one of “very few” in Sanford who publicly condemned the “beating of the black homeless man Sherman Ware on Dec. 4, 2010, by the son of a Sanford police officer,” who is white.
 
...[A]according to members of the Zimmerman family, George printed and distributed copies of fliers on bright fluorescent-colored paper demanding that the community “hold accountable” officers responsible for any misconduct. TheDC has obtained a copy of one of those fliers.
 
“Do you know the individual that stepped up when no one else in the black community would?” the Zimmerman family member asked in the letter to the NAACP’s Clayton.
 
“Do you know who spent tireless hours putting fliers on the cars of persons parked in the churches of the black community? Do you know who waited for the church‐goers to get out of church so that he could hand them fliers in an attempt to organize the black community against this horrible miscarriage of justice? Do you know who helped organize the City Hall meeting on January 8th, 2011 at Sanford City Hall??”
 
“That person was GEORGE ZIMMERMAN,” the letter insisted. “Ironic isn’t it?”
 
Every Sunday, according to his family, Zimmerman would stroll through Sanford’s black neighborhoods handing out the fliers demanding justice for Sherman Ware, and calling for the police to hold their own officials accountable. Zimmerman would also place the fliers on people’s cars outside churches.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/16/Smear-Fail-CBS-Cites-Zimmerman-Racism-in-Case-When-He-Stood-Up-to-Police


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Post by: Toler on April 16, 2012, 07:52:09 PM
George Zimmerman afraid of being killed in jail: lawyer

SANFORD, Fla. -- George Zimmerman is afraid of being killed while in jail facing charges of murdering Trayvon Martin, his lawyer said today.
 
“There has been an upwelling of hostility and animosity towards him that can find its way to you in many different ways,” Mark O’Mara said outside the courthouse in Sanford, Fla.

“So he’s concerned because he’s exposed to many people he doesn’t even know,” O’Mara added.
 
The lawyer talked to reporters after filing a motion to have Judge Jessica Recksiedler removed from the case because of a possible conflict of interestIf Recksiedler recuses herself, Florida officials would have to find another judge to take over the case and that could push back Zimmerman’s bail bond hearing, which is scheduled for Friday.
 
“I still hope we can figure something out to get my client out safely, get him protected,” O’Mara said.  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/george_zimmerman_afraid_of_being_UWxL8AHEIjCLzlbwv14seK




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Post by: cookie on April 16, 2012, 08:42:15 PM
If Casey Anthony the baby killer can make it through jail, GZ will too.  No one is more hated than her iMO


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Post by: Toler on April 16, 2012, 08:42:53 PM
Trayvon Martin's killer showed signs of injury: neighbors

SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - Neighbors of George Zimmerman say he had bandages on his nose and head the day after he shot dead Trayvon Martin, supporting statements by the neighborhood watch volunteer that he was beaten in a confrontation with the black Florida teenager.
 
The extent of Zimmerman's injuries could be crucial to his legal defense under Florida's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense law, which allows the use of deadly force when someone has the reasonable belief he could face death or great bodily harm.
 
Police said Zimmerman, who has been charged with second-degree murder in the racially charged case, was bleeding from the nose and the back of his head and was treated by medics before being taken to Sanford police station after the February 26 shooting.
 
But public doubts were later raised by the release of a grainy surveillance video from the police station in which no injuries were readily visible.
 
Zimmerman later sought medical treatment for injuries including a broken nose, his former lawyers have said.   ::snipping2:: 

http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martins-killer-showed-signs-injury-neighbors-221635654.html


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Post by: cw618 on April 17, 2012, 06:22:15 AM
The Growing Movement to Repeal ‘Stand Your Ground’ Laws
 ::snipping2::
It was big news last week when prosecutors charged George Zimmerman with second-degree murder in the shooting of Trayvon Martin. But Zimmerman could walk free if a judge decides his actions fall under Florida’s “stand your ground” law, which gives broad leeway to people to shoot in self-defense. There is no way to undo what happened in the Zimmerman-Martin encounter, but some good can still come of it: it could lead states to repeal their misguided “stand your ground” laws.
 ::snipping2::
Many criminal-law doctrines evolve over centuries, but “stand your ground” laws arrived suddenly — starting in Florida in 2006. Under traditional legal principles, people in disputes generally have a duty to “de-escalate” in the interest of saving human life, but the Florida law dialed down the historic “duty to retreat.” Now, people would have the same kind of right to stand their ground in public — on the streets, in parking lots and in bars — that they historically had in their homes

Read more:
http://ideas.time.com/2012/04/16/the-growing-movement-to-repeal-stand-your-ground-laws/?xid=gonewsedit#ixzz1sI7gU3YY

 






Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 17, 2012, 09:21:39 AM
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/
April 16, 2012

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Post by: cookie on April 17, 2012, 09:44:33 AM
Interesting Muffy...thanks


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 17, 2012, 09:59:22 AM
Interesting Muffy...thanks


YW cookie.  It's only one poll carried by Fox  and reported in the N Dallas area news, and I don't really know how many times anyone can vote or anything like that.  I posted it as an item of interest only.  If the poll were conducted in another area, the results could of course vary, imo. 


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Post by: iluvmua on April 17, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
As of now, I still think this is a self defense case.

Why in the heck was GZ charged with 2nd degree murder?

I think the defense has a VERY good chance of winning this case.



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Post by: cookie on April 17, 2012, 10:40:05 AM
As of now, I still think this is a self defense case.

Why in the heck was GZ charged with 2nd degree murder?

I think the defense has a VERY good chance of winning this case.




I think so too..
I think that this is overcharged...but we will see.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 17, 2012, 10:43:08 AM
As of now, I still think this is a self defense case.

Why in the heck was GZ charged with 2nd degree murder?

I think the defense has a VERY good chance of winning this case.




I think so too..
I think that this is overcharged...but we will see.


My "I think  so too" is in regards that the defense has a good chance of winning...
I am not sure about  how I feel yet about self defense on GZ part...probably turned into self defense after Trayvon was defending himself ...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on April 17, 2012, 11:41:19 AM
As of now, I still think this is a self defense case.

Why in the heck was GZ charged with 2nd degree murder?

I think the defense has a VERY good chance of winning this case.



I don't think anybody but the lawyers will win anything.

Trayvon's family lost their son that rainy night.

And George's life forever changed that same night.

It's all so sad!


I think so too..
I think that this is overcharged...but we will see.


My "I think  so too" is in regards that the defense has a good chance of winning...
I am not sure about  how I feel yet about self defense on GZ part...probably turned into self defense after Trayvon was defending himself ...



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on April 17, 2012, 11:43:07 AM
As of now, I still think this is a self defense case.

Why in the heck was GZ charged with 2nd degree murder?

I think the defense has a VERY good chance of winning this case.



I think so too..
I think that this is overcharged...but we will see.


My "I think  so too" is in regards that the defense has a good chance of winning...
I am not sure about  how I feel yet about self defense on GZ part...probably turned into self defense after Trayvon was defending himself ...


I don't think anybody but the lawyers will win anything.

Trayvon's family lost their son that rainy night.

And George's life forever changed that same night.

It's all so sad!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 17, 2012, 11:46:40 AM
As of now, I still think this is a self defense case.

Why in the heck was GZ charged with 2nd degree murder?

I think the defense has a VERY good chance of winning this case.



I think so too..
I think that this is overcharged...but we will see.


My "I think  so too" is in regards that the defense has a good chance of winning...
I am not sure about  how I feel yet about self defense on GZ part...probably turned into self defense after Trayvon was defending himself ...


I don't think anybody but the lawyers will win anything.

Trayvon's family lost their son that rainy night.

And George's life forever changed that same night.

It's all so sad!


Very true


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Post by: Toler on April 17, 2012, 01:08:19 PM
Trayvon Martin's parents coming to Tampa for town hall

The parents of Trayvon Martin will visit Tampa on Thursday when the National Bar Association holds a town hall meeting on their son's case.

The meeting is at noon Beulah Baptist Institutional Church, 1006 Cypress St., Tampa. The doors open at 11 a.m.

Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin are the parents of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was fatally shot Feb. 26 by George Zimmerman in Sanford. Zimmerman, 28, has pleaded not guilty and says he acted in self-defense.

In addition to Martin's parents, the panelists include Otis Anthony of WMNF; Clinton Paris from the Tampa Organization of Black Affairs; state Rep. Chris Smith, D-Fort Lauderdale; Carolyn Collins of the NAACP in Hillsborough County; Benjamin Crump, the Martin family attorney; John Page of the National Bar Association; and Tanya Clay-House from the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights.

CNN's legal analyst Sunny Hostin will be the moderator.

The meeting is organized by the National Bar Association, a network of predominately black lawyers and judges.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2012/apr/16/1/trayvon-martins-parents-coming-to-tampa-for-town-h-ar-393170/


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Post by: Toler on April 17, 2012, 04:45:07 PM
Little-Known DOJ Cell Watches Trayvon Martin Protests

A largely unknown group of Justice Department officials has inserted itself into the local Florida protest movement surrounding the killing of Trayvon Martin, assisting the protestors and attending their meetings and rallies.

While the officials are tasked with preventing racial violence, it appears that in carrying out their duties, they have provided significant assistance to those protesting the killing of Martin, who black, by George Zimmerman, who is half white and half Hispanic.

The officials are members of the DOJ’s Community Relations Service, also known as “The Peacemakers,” a special unit established under the 1964 Civil Rights Act and empowered to act to mitigate local tensions between ethnic groups.

From the CRS website:

It is the only Federal entity dedicated to assisting state and local government units, private and public organizations, and community groups with preventing and resolving racial and ethnic tensions, incidents, and civil disorders. The CRS works to restore stability and accord.

Under President Obama, the group’s mission has expanded substantially. Officials are permitted to take on a more aggressive role, moving from a “reactionary” to a “preventative” stance, CRS Director Ondray Harris told the website Main Justice. And the categories that can bring in The Peacemakers now include gender, “gender identity,” sexual orientation, religion, and disability.

Martin’s killing set off vocal protests – led by Al Sharpton – demanding the arrest of Zimmerman. Faced with threats of escalating fury from the protestors, Florida officials arrested Zimmerman last week. Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have both suggested sympathy for the protestors or for Martin himself.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, The Peacemakers have ended up offering advice and assistance to the protestors.


When racial tensions flared in Sanford, a league of secretive peacemakers reached out to the city’s spiritual and civic leaders to help cool heated emotions after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in February.

When civil-rights organizers wanted to demonstrate, these federal workers taught them how to peacefully manage crowds.

They even arranged a police escort for college students to ensure safe passage for their 40-mile march from Daytona Beach to Sanford to demand justice.

The Peacemakers are viewed by the protestors as a quietly protective, on-the-ground force, the Sentinel story makes clear.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/04/17/secretive-doj-force-watces-trayvon-protests/


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 17, 2012, 04:52:17 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/17/us-usa-florida-shooting-idUSBRE83G1E220120417
Florida judge in Trayvon Martin case to decide on recusal
April 17, 2012

(Reuters) - A Florida judge will decide this week whether to step down from the second-degree murder trial of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler disclosed last week that her husband's law partner previously had been contacted by Zimmerman seeking representation. Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, on Monday filed a motion asking Recksiedler to recuse herself.

Recksiedler is on temporary assignment from the Florida Supreme Court, hearing oral arguments at the Fifth District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach, Florida. She will issue a written order by Friday on the recusal motion, according to a court news release issued on Tuesday.

A bond hearing is set for Zimmerman on Friday. The court spokesman was unavailable to comment on Tuesday on whether that hearing would go forward as scheduled if another judge takes over the case.

In what the court spokesman previously acknowledged was an unusual decision, a different judge at Zimmerman's first appearance on Thursday sealed all court records filed in the case after that date.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: seahorse on April 17, 2012, 07:06:56 PM
http://webbond.seminolesheriff.org/InmateInfo.aspx?bkgnbr=201200004452

       
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GEORGE  ZIMMERMAN 
 
 
 
INMATE INFORMATION 
Booking #:  201200004452 
Name:  GEORGE   ZIMMERMAN   
Date of Birth:  10/05/1983 
Location:  I 
Arrested by:  Seminole County Sheriff`s Office 
Arrest Date:  04/11/2012 08:30:00 PM 
 
   
Someone cares his need$. 
 
 
 


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Post by: klaasend on April 17, 2012, 07:42:22 PM
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Post by: grace-land on April 18, 2012, 11:12:48 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2012/04/george-zimmerman-could-there-be-another-casey-anthony-tie.html

George Zimmerman: Could there be another Casey Anthony tie?
]Anderson Cooper, CNN, Caylee and Casey Anthony, Trayvon Martin, WESH, WKMG, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on April, 18 2012 8:59 AM

 ::snipping2::
In an interview Tuesday with Anderson Cooper, NeJame floated a possibility for Recksiedler’s replacement: Judge O.H. Eaton Jr., who was an Anthony analyst for WESH-Channel 2.
 
NeJame said it was a long shot, but added that Eaton is “very scholarly, very well-respected jurist. And he is a senior retired judge … He knows death cases. He knows murder cases as well as anybody probably in the state. And he’s handled the tough cases before and is not afraid of controversy. He’ll do the right thing legally. He doesn’t look for what’s popular. He looks at what’s right and follows the law.”
 
NeJame listed the three judges who could get the case in a random rotation: John Galluzzo, Kenneth Lester Jr. and Debra Nelson.
 
Rod Smith, a former Florida state attorney, told Cooper: “Judge Eaton, of course, had a great reputation. It’s somewhat unlikely in high-profile cases that they keep a senior judge. They’ll probably put it into rotation.”


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Post by: grace-land on April 18, 2012, 11:18:53 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57415707-504083/judge-in-the-george-zimmerman-second-degree-murder-case-expected-to-step-aside-from-case/

April 18, 2012 10:39 AM
Judge in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case expected to step aside from case

(CBS) SANFORD, Fla. - Florida Judge Jessica Recksiedler, overseeing the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case is expected to step down Wednesday, reports the Sun-Sentinel.

Pictures: George Zimmerman charged with murder

Recksiedler's replacement will be someone chosen from among three remaining felony judges in Seminole County.

In a statement issued by court officials Tuesday, Recksiedler will decide what to do no later than Friday. However, that decision should be made clear Wednesday, when the judge is expected to sign an order taking herself off the case.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: grace-land on April 18, 2012, 04:01:44 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-18/news/os-george-zimmerman-judge-steps-aside-20120418_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-murder-case-new-judge

Ken Lester named new judge in Zimmerman murder case
3:34 p.m. EST, April 18, 2012

SANFORD – The new judge in the George Zimmerman murder case will be Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester Jr., who's been on the bench 15 years.

The case passed to him today, but not before things got a bit complicated.

It was originally assigned to Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler, but she recused herself today after Zimmerman's attorney asked her to step aside because of a possible conflict of interest: Her husband is the law partner of Mark NeJame, who's been hired to comment on the case for CNN.

All criminal cases in Seminole County are assigned by chance, based on a rotation system. Next up in that rotation was Circuit Judge John Galluzzo. He, though, could not accept the case because he formerly practiced law with Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara.

O'Mara is also the godfather of one of Galluzzo's four children.

So Galluzzo stepped aside, passing the case to the next judge in the rotation: Lester.

He has already made plans to preside at Zimmerman's bond hearing. It'll start at 9 a.m. Friday and be in Recksiedler's courtroom, 5D at the Seminole Criminal Justice Center.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 18, 2012, 05:02:43 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-murder-case-judge-bows-article-1.1063745?localLinksEnabled=false
Trayvon Martin murder case judge bows out
Second replacement also cites conflicts of interest; Suspect George Zimmerman took photos of himself showing injuries, friend says

April 18, 2012

The judge in the Trayvon Martin murder case recused herself Wednesday because her husband’s law partner has been hired to comment on the trial by CNN.

Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler had been expected to bow out.

The next judge in the roster, Judge John Galluzzo, then declined to take the case against George Zimmerman because of his own conflict of interest: He used to practice law with Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara.

O’Mara is also the godfather of one of Galluzzo’s children.

The case — sure to be a media sensation if it goes to trial — then fell to Judge Kenneth Lester, Jr.

Lester, 58, who has a reputation for keeping things moving and doling out tough sentences, will preside over Zimmerman’s bond hearing slated for Friday.
 ::snipping2::
A friend of Zimmerman’s told the Daily News that Zimmerman has graphic photos he took of his own face showing serious injuries.

“He was beaten to a bloody pulp that night, and he’s lucky to be alive. There’s proof of that,” the friend of Zimmerman said.

“He took the pictures himself...to protect himself. He knew they would come back for him. He had a good idea this wasn’t over. He’s not a dumb man.”

The friend said the national media wrongly portrayed Trayvon as the victim and Zimmerman the aggressor — and the photos would reveal the truth.

“You (the media) are going to feel pretty stupid when you see them,” he said. “Soon enough everyone will see the damage this kid did to his head. A lot of people are going to have egg on their faces.

“Once the judge gets a look at these pictures he will dismiss this case and all you can crawl back into your holes,” he told a News reporter.


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Post by: jamcakes on April 18, 2012, 08:05:55 PM
Interesting that GZ took photos of himself.  That was smart, but I wonder how well they will hold up in court, unless they are poloroids, even then.....

The medical records taken at the scene by EMS are going to be a key piece of evidence.  I hope they measured or approximated the size and carefully detailed the extent of the injuries.  Of course the bruising takes time to develop.

I'm glad the media fervor is starting to die down. But what upsets me, is the release of all the information the MSM media had to have withheld, ie: that neighbors saw GZ with bandages and injuries, the existence of the photos documenting injuries, etc.

It's obvious to me, at least, that MSM, wanted to make GZ look guilty of a racial hate crime. Just think of all the sensational media coverage that could come out of a race riot or another killing in this case.

It makes me sick!  I think we should hold the media accountable, and ask for a federal investigation into this practice of journalism.

Didn't Richard Jewell eventually sue and win his case against the Atlanta newspaper?


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Post by: KittyMom on April 18, 2012, 10:34:38 PM
If the photos are digital they should have embedded data on there about when they were taken and where.  It will be interesting to find out.


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Post by: cookie on April 19, 2012, 08:18:55 AM
Who knows if GZ took the photos after inflicting injuries to himself because he knew that he was gonna be in some trouble...wouldn't the police have taken pictures of GZ's injuries? If not, why not? No visible injuries at that time?
Just throwing that out there as I have no idea at this point what really happened that night..

I will be anxious to see the photos and other details from  GZ's side of the events


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Post by: jamcakes on April 19, 2012, 11:12:08 AM
The best case on the photos would be if they were documented and photographed by a second party, preferably medical personnel. Hopefully, GZ had someone help with the photos b/c of the location on the back of the head.

Supposedly,the EMS would have records documenting the extent of the cuts and injuries visible immediately after the shooting. It takes hours for the blood flow to show up as black & blue marks.

The problem with taking one's own photos, is that one can apply makeup to enhance the extent of the injuries, and also that photos can be digitally altered.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens at trial. Very interesting.


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Post by: Toler on April 19, 2012, 03:32:29 PM

Last December, George Zimmerman hosted a small gathering at a clubhouse in Lake Mary, Florida. He invited family members and some close friends, and he made a brief speech. He wanted to share with them, he said, the news that he’d earned his associates degree in criminal justice.
 

“He gathered us all together,” said a family friend who lives near Zimmerman’s parents and was present at the clubhouse that night, “to thank us for helping us define his life and what path he was going to take and who he was.”
 

The friend, who asked not to be identified, told The Daily Beast that he and his wife pulled Zimmerman aside afterward and asked him about his career: What did he want to do with his life? Zimmerman responded that he had a specific goal. First, he would go to law school. After that, the friend said, “his ambition was to be a judge.”
 

Now, Zimmerman is wearing a gray prison jumpsuit instead of black robes, as he faces second-degree murder charges in the Feb. 26 shooting of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager who was walking home through the housing complex where Zimmerman served as a neighborhood-watch captain.
 

As the legal case against Zimmerman begins to grind forward, The Daily Beast has learned new details about Zimmerman’s accounts to various police agencies in the moments and days after the shooting. A law-enforcement source familiar with Zimmerman’s account, but not directly involved in the case, said that in his statement to police, he said Martin’s final words after being shot were, “Okay, you got it.”
 
Locals in Sanford, the Orlando suburb where the shooting took place, and in nearby Lake Mary, where Zimmerman’s parents lived, appear to be exhaling after a month of national controversy and protests. “I hope and pray everything quiets down and we let the system do justice,” said Patricia Howard, a neighbor of Zimmerman’s parents.   ::snipping2::

The law-enforcement source familiar with the case, who told The Daily Beast that he personally believes Zimmerman’s account, said Zimmerman has told three different law enforcement agencies his version of the events: the Sanford Police Department, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, and the U.S. Department of Justice. The source said Zimmerman has not talked about the case directly with the office of special prosecutor Angela Corey, which filed the murder charges against him on Apr. 11. A spokeswoman for the special prosecutor’s office declined to comment on the case.  ::snipping2::

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/19/new-account-zimmerman-told-cops-trayvon-s-last-words-were-okay-you-got-it.html


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Post by: sharon on April 19, 2012, 05:49:45 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/sfl-gov-scott-names-stand-your-ground-task-force-20120419,0,2048511.story

Gov. Scott names 'Stand Your Ground' task force

Gov. Rick Scott today named 15 members of a task force to study possible changes in the state’s “stand your ground” law in the wake of the killing of Trayvon Martin, the Miami teenager who was shot by Neighborhood Watch captain George Zimmerman in Sanford in February. Zimmerman has invoked the law — which allows the use of deadly force when a person feels threatened with serious bodily harm — to justify his shooting of the unarmed teenager.

 ::snipping2::

 ::justice2NJ::


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 19, 2012, 07:10:51 PM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-19/news/os-george-zimmerman-bond-trayvon-martin-20120419_1_peatross-special-prosecutor-angela-corey-pretrial-release
Will George Zimmerman get bond? Local lawyers say it's likely
By Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
April 19, 2012

 ::snipping2::
A 9 a.m. bond hearing before Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. could offer more drama in the racially charged case, potentially including never-before-seen-or-heard evidence against Zimmerman, who faces a second-degree-murder charge in the Feb. 26 shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Will Zimmerman be allowed to bond out? Several local defense lawyers told the Sentinel they fully expect he will be given the opportunity to await trial outside a jail cell.

"Generally, it's a constitutional right to get out on pretrial release of some type," said David Fussell of the Fussell Law Firm. Denying bond in this case, he said, "would not be consistent with the law."

The public "should expect him to get a bond," added Andrew Moses of Moses & Rooth.

The bar for denying bond is high, as criminal defendants have a basic right to reasonable bail. However, a few factors could play into Lester's decision.

For one, is Zimmerman a flight risk? Mark O'Mara, Zimmerman's attorney, will likely argue his client hasn't failed to appear for court before and has "ties to the community," Moses said. "He's got family here."

On Thursday, court administrators said members of Zimmerman's family will testify by phone.

Also in Zimmerman's favor is his behavior, Fussell said. When charges were announced, "he turned himself in," Fussell said, and before that, "he stayed in touch with law enforcement."

Is he a danger to the community? Zimmerman has only one known arrest, when he was accused of shoving a law-enforcement officer outside a bar near the University of Central Florida in 2005. Fussell said the danger standard best applies to defendants accused of repeated criminal acts — a serial rapist, for example — or prone to sudden, unprovoked or random acts of violence.

Because the charge Zimmerman faces carries a possible life sentence, there is a third standard the state could argue, known as "proof evident, presumption great."

It's a higher standard than "beyond a reasonable doubt," the burden necessary for a criminal conviction.

"It's not an absolute certainty, but it's just short of that," Fussell said.

Meeting that standard would require strong evidence. According to Lyle Mazin of Mazin Law, Special Prosecutor Angela Corey would have to reveal more specific details of the state's case against Zimmerman than have been made public.

That could include "videos, photos, witnesses' statements, confessions or any other admissible evidence the state has," Mazin said.
 ::snipping2::
The state could also agree to Zimmerman's release on bond and negotiate terms with the defense, Mazin said. If that doesn't happen, Lester would lay out any release terms.

He could order GPS monitoring, home confinement or drug testing, for example. He likely would order Zimmerman to surrender any firearms he owns, as well as his passport. The gun he used in the shooting has already been confiscated as evidence.

Legal experts say setting a bond amount is a balancing act, aimed at choosing a figure the defendant can afford but which also reflects the severity of the charge.

"A bond needs to be … reasonable for the unique defendant," Mazin says. As Moses explained, bond is meant to ensure a defendant shows up for court, "not to punish."


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Post by: cookie on April 19, 2012, 11:10:25 PM
Wonder where he will go if he does make bail? 


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Post by: higherhopes on April 19, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
Muffy.......do we have any news on the little girl Cayleigh I think it is missing from the beach??
Is there going to be a thread for her?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 19, 2012, 11:35:15 PM
Muffy.......do we have any news on the little girl Cayleigh I think it is missing from the beach??
Is there going to be a thread for her?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13000.msg1519568#msg1519568   
2 yo Caleigh Anne Harrison Last Seen at Rockport Mass. Beach 4/19/12


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: higherhopes on April 19, 2012, 11:38:20 PM
Muffy.......do we have any news on the little girl Cayleigh I think it is missing from the beach??
Is there going to be a thread for her?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13000.msg1519568#msg1519568   
2 yo Caleigh Anne Harrison Last Seen at Rockport Mass. Beach 4/19/12
Thank you Muffy......this is so sad and really not enough info yet to be able to post much!


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Post by: Toler on April 20, 2012, 07:57:44 AM
ABC News: Photo taken after Trayvon Martin shooting shows bloody George Zimmerman

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. —


ABC News exclusively obtained a graphic photograph of George Zimmerman’s head covered in blood that was taken just three minutes after the shooting that left 17-year-old Trayvon Martin dead.

The picture  shows two cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head with blood trickling down.

Click here to see the photo (WARNING GRAPHIC)

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/abc-news-photo-taken-after-trayvon-martin-shooting/nMdbw/
Zimmerman, who shot and killed 17-year-old Martin on February 26 in a gated Sanford community, claimed he killed Martin in self-defense. Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder for the shooting death of Martin.

The photograph appears to be the first publicly disclosed piece of evidence that could help support Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense. Sources tell ABC News that investigators have seen the photograph and are aware of the photographer’s story.

The person who took the photograph told ABC News he heard Martin and Zimmerman fighting before the shooting and that after Martin was killed,  Zimmerman asked the photographer to call Zimmerman’s wife, allegedly blurting out, “Man, just tell her I shot someone.”

GPS and other data embedded in the photo shows it was taken at the scene with an iPhone just three minutes after the shooting, according to ABC News.

ABC News said the photographer said gunpowder marks were clearly visible on Martin’s hooded sweatshirt.

Zimmerman was treated at the scene, then transferred to the police station, where his wounds appear to be less visible in surveillance video.  ::snipping2:: 



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Post by: Toler on April 20, 2012, 08:04:16 AM
Florida officials prepare for backlash if Zimmerman released on bail

SANFORD, Fla. -- Florida officials were preparing for a possible backlash today if fatal shooter George Zimmerman walks free from a bond hearing.
 
Barricades were placed outside Seminole County Courthouse in Sanford ahead of today's hearing. An Emergency Operations Center was on standby and a SWAT team will be placed on alert.
 
"We are prepared for all the contingencies," Sanford city manager Norton Bonaparte told myFOXorlando.com.
 
Zimmerman's attorney took extra steps to keep the shooter's relatives safe. Mark O'Mara asked a judge Thursday to keep phone numbers of family members private. They planned to testify by telephone to support Zimmerman.
 
O'Mara added, "[There is] a lot of built-up emotion, there have been threats and concerns."
 
He said his client had a good chance of bonding out of jail, as long as it was a reasonable amount of money.
 
He said, "He's very worried about the process, but we have built a trust relationship which is great, and he's hopeful he'll be out on bond tomorrow [Friday]. He certainly wants to be back with his family and safe."
 
The family of Trayvon Martin, who was fatally shot in Sanford in February, planned to testify at the hearing


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/zimmerman_family_parents_testify_niRkPUK1zHMHXFN9TF8EPL#ixzz1sa5ZzaN7


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Post by: Toler on April 20, 2012, 08:19:59 AM
Trayvon Martin's family to attend George Zimmerman's hearing
Attorney says Zimmerman wants to meet with family

SANFORD, Fla. -
The family of Trayvon Martin on Friday will sit in the same courtroom as George Zimmerman for the first time but will not meet with the neighborhood watch leader who shot and killed their son.

Benjamin Crump said the Martin family is attending the hearing at the request of special prosecutor Angela Corey. Crump said the family is bracing themselves to be the same room with Zimmerman and hopes bond is not issued.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said Zimmerman would like to meet with the Martin family.

"There's no reason not to have a conversation," O'Mara said Thursday. "It should be personal, it should be private."

Crump said the Martin family has considered Zimmerman's proposal but won't meet with him.

"The meeting is not appropriate right now," Crump said. "We think that it's self-serving, right now, to say, 'I want to apologize the day before my bond hearing.'"  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Trayvon-Martin-s-family-to-attend-George-Zimmerman-s-hearing/-/1637132/11211116/-/idjec2/-/


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 20, 2012, 09:27:08 AM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/04/george-zimmerman-bail-hearing-today-at-9-am-et/1
Zimmerman appears at bail hearing today
By Douglas Stanglin, USA TODAY
April 20, 2012

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, appeared in court today to ask to be freed from jail on bond until his trial for second-degree murder.

Update at 9:17 a.m. ET: Zimmerman's wife Shelley, says the family has discussed how to "scrape up" enough money for bail, if it is granted.

Update at 9:10 a.m. ET: Zimmerman's family gives testimony by phone, beginning with his wife.

Update at 9:08 a.m. ET: Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, turns over his client's passport to the court.

Update at 9:04 a.m. ET: Zimmerman, shackled, appears in court wearing a suit, white shirt and tie. He is clean-shaven, having removed his beard and mustache.

Original posting: Zimmerman, 28, has not disputed killing the unarmed teenager in Sanford, Fla., in February, but says it was self-defense.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara indicated he would ask that Zimmerman be allowed to leave the area, if he is granted bond, because of concerns about his safety.

Among the issues that will be weighed is whether Zimmerman should be considered a flight risk and whether he would pose a threat to society.
 ::snipping2::



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Post by: alagary on April 20, 2012, 10:29:50 AM
Sorry if already posted, bond hearing is being live streamed;
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: sunshine12 on April 20, 2012, 11:23:05 AM
if i was zimmerman i feel like i would want a bench trial, with the judge deciding


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Post by: jamcakes on April 20, 2012, 11:58:23 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57417621/judge-grants-$150k-bail-for-george-zimmerman/

April 20, 2012 11:13 AM

Judge grants $150K bail for George Zimmerman


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Post by: Amys Sister on April 20, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
Quote
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/20/11304742-judge-sets-bond-at-150000-zimmerman-apologizes-to-trayvon-martins-parents?lite

Zimmerman, who was wearing a suit and had chains that wrapped around his waist and connected to handcuffs, said that at the time of the shooting he did not know how old Martin was or whether he was armed.


That's either poor reporting or a flat out lie told by George Zimmerman.  In his 9-11 call he clearly states the 'suspect' is a teenager.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Dihannah1 on April 20, 2012, 12:00:00 PM
if i was zimmerman i feel like i would want a bench trial, with the judge deciding

I agree, especially after the repercussions from the Anthony trial.  I'd hate to be a juror on that trial!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on April 20, 2012, 12:18:54 PM
CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. - A judge has granted bail for George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, but would not allow his release Friday, citing further discussions needed about the terms, including whether or not he would be allowed out of state.

Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester also said that Zimmerman must not have any contact with the victim's family; must wear an ankle monitoring bracelet; and adhere to a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. The judge's order also states that Zimmerman cannot be in possession of firearms; and must not consume alcohol or controlled substances.

<cut>

His attorney, Mark O'Mara, asked the judge to let him out of jail while he awaits trial. His attorney also asked the judge to allow Zimmerman to leave the state while wearing a GPS bracelet, and to keep his location confidential in order to help secure his safety.

<cut>
Martin's parents were in the courtroom today, coming face-to-face with their son's killer for the first time. They wept at news of the bond.

After the hearing, Martin family attorney Ben Crump said Martin's parents were "very outraged" at the results of the hearing.

"It was devastating that [Zimmerman] got to give a self-serving apology to help get him a bond," Crump said. "Why is everybody protecting George Zimmerman?"

Zimmerman surrendered his passport, according to his attorney.

State prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda, arguing against bond, said Zimmerman showed "a lack of adhering to authority," but also suggested not releasing Zimmerman was also for his own good. "Will he be a threat [to the community]? Quite frankly, some people will want to get to him."

Testifying by phone link, Shellie Zimmerman said she did not believe her husband would be a threat to the community if he were released. "No concern whatsoever," she said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57417621/judge-grants-$150k-bail-for-george-zimmerman/


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Post by: Toler on April 20, 2012, 03:28:32 PM
Fla. prosecutor in Martin case wins re-election

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - The Florida prosecutor who charged George Zimmerman with second-degree murder is going to spend another four years in office.

Angela Corey on Friday won a new term after no one stepped forward to challenge the Republican in this year's election. Qualifying ended at noon.

Corey was first elected in 2008 as state attorney for the judicial circuit that includes Clay, Duval and Nassau counties in northeast Florida.

The 57-year-old prosecutor is known for her tough tactics, locking up criminals for long sentences and not negotiating easily on plea bargains.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20120420/APN/1204200855


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Post by: Toler on April 20, 2012, 03:36:17 PM
Dershowitz Blasts Zimmerman Prosecution: 'Not Only Immoral, But Stupid'

With ABC News’ release of the George Zimmerman photo showing blood flowing freely from his head, the question becomes whether Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the case, had access to the photo before charging Zimmerman with second-degree murder.
 
The arrest affidavit did not mention the photograph, or the bleeding, gashes, and bruises on Zimmermans’ head. Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School stated upon release of the arrest affidavit that it was “so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”
 
After the release of the photo, however, Dershowitz went much further, telling Breitbart News that if the prosecutors did have the photo and didn’t mention it in the affidavit, that would constitute a “grave ethical violation,” since affidavits are supposed to contain “all relevant information.”
 
Dershowitz continued, “An affidavit that willfully misstates undisputed evidence known to the prosecution is not only unethical but borders on perjury because an affiant swears to tell not only the truth, but the whole truth, and suppressing an important part of the whole truth is a lie."   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/20/Dershowitz-prosecution-immoral


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Post by: Toler on April 20, 2012, 03:59:55 PM
Zimmerman Bombshells: Mayor And Pictures

From the bond hearing:

George Zimmerman was allegedly recognized by the Mayor for his intervention in the events surrounding the homeless (black) man that was beaten by a Sanford police officer's relative.

There has been a near-complete media blackout in this regard -- and questions about whether the letter published somewhat-recently was authentic.

Well, it appears (from testimony of his mother this morning) that the Sanford Mayor personally recognized George Zimmerman for his efforts to obtain justice for that homeless man.

And where is the media who tried to turn this into a racial issue?

Just as importantly, where is the Mayor of Sanford who gave that commendation and thus knew damn well what the history of this man was when it came to his views on race?

Further there was testimony introduced this morning that George Zimmerman has been actively mentoring black kids in Orlando despite being urged not to by his mother as a consequence of the area of the city in question where he traveled to being a known high-crime area and thus dangerous to his person.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the media intentionally attempted to present a false picture of both the incident itself and George Zimmerman personally with regard to any racial issues surrounding this event.

Oh, and the claims that Zimmerman wasn't injured?  Here's a picture taken three minutes after EMS arrived:  ::snipping2::

http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=204988


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Post by: jamcakes on April 20, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
Dershowitz Blasts Zimmerman Prosecution: 'Not Only Immoral, But Stupid'

With ABC News’ release of the George Zimmerman photo showing blood flowing freely from his head, the question becomes whether Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the case, had access to the photo before charging Zimmerman with second-degree murder.
 
The arrest affidavit did not mention the photograph, or the bleeding, gashes, and bruises on Zimmermans’ head. Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School stated upon release of the arrest affidavit that it was “so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”
 
After the release of the photo, however, Dershowitz went much further, telling Breitbart News that if the prosecutors did have the photo and didn’t mention it in the affidavit, that would constitute a “grave ethical violation,” since affidavits are supposed to contain “all relevant information.”
 
Dershowitz continued, “An affidavit that willfully misstates undisputed evidence known to the prosecution is not only unethical but borders on perjury because an affiant swears to tell not only the truth, but the whole truth, and suppressing an important part of the whole truth is a lie."   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/20/Dershowitz-prosecution-immoral

Hmmmm.......this case is going to be debated in law schools for years to come!


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 20, 2012, 04:22:38 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0420/George-Zimmerman-bond-hearing-5-new-things-we-learned/Zimmerman-brooded-over-comments-by-Trayvon-s-mother
George Zimmerman bond hearing: 5 new things we learned
April 20, 2012

Seminole County Judge Kenneth Lester on Friday allowed George Zimmerman to post a $150,000 bond to go free as he awaits trial on a second degree murder charge for his role in the shooting death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26. The bond is expected to be posted in several days.

Normally routine, the hearing turned into a mini-trial when defense attorney Mark O’Mara challenged prosecutors' probable-cause affidavit – the document in which prosecutors made their case for arresting Mr. Zimmerman. One of the lead investigators and even Zimmerman himself took the stand. Here are five things we learned.


See at link.


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 20, 2012, 04:48:08 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/20/george_zimmerman_apo.html
George Zimmerman: Apologizes to Martin family, bond set
April 20, 2012

ORLANDO --

Friday was the first time we heard from George Zimmerman,28, since he was arrested and he immediately apologized to the parents of Trayvon Martin.

"I am so sorry for the loss of your son," Zimmerman said.

Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, refused to look at Zimmerman.
 ::snipping2::
He also indicated that he asked police and his attorneys to tell Martin's family that he was sorry. Zimmerman’s attorney Mark O’Mara told News13 this week that Zimmerman wanted a private meeting with the Martins. However, that never happened.

At the end of the hearing Friday, Circuit Judge Kenneth R. Lester set Zimmerman’s bond at $150,000. However, it could be a couple of days before he gets out because of logistics to ensure Zimmerman will stay safe.
 ::snipping2::
immerman’s mother, Gladys, also vouched for her son.

She says he volunteered as a mentor for two black teenagers from Orlando.

During the hearing, Zimmerman's attorney questioned one of the investigators from the state attorney's office.

"Have you ever had your nose broken or fractured? Do you know that was an injury Mr. Zimmerman sustained?” asked O’Mara to investigator Dale Gilbreath.
"I know that is an injury that was reported he sustained, I haven't seen any medical records to indicate that,” said Gilbreath.
"Have you asked him for them?"
"Have I asked him for them, no."
"Do you want a copy of them?" said O’Mara while presenting them to the court.

The session started to sound more like a trial than a bond hearing, but the judge made his decision.

"I'm going to grant the motion for bond at $150,000 with the following conditions," said Circuit Judge Kenneth R. Lester.

The conditions include electronic monitoring, no use of alcohol, no possession of firearms, and a curfew set for 7 p.m.

The family of Trayvon left disappointed in the decision and did not speak to the media.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: grace-land on April 20, 2012, 05:02:06 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/20/cnr.02.html

CNN NEWSROOM

George Zimmerman Bond Hearing
Aired April 20, 2012 - 10:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.



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Post by: labubske on April 20, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0420/George-Zimmerman-bond-hearing-5-new-things-we-learned/Zimmerman-brooded-over-comments-by-Trayvon-s-mother
George Zimmerman bond hearing: 5 new things we learned
April 20, 2012

Seminole County Judge Kenneth Lester on Friday allowed George Zimmerman to post a $150,000 bond to go free as he awaits trial on a second degree murder charge for his role in the shooting death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26. The bond is expected to be posted in several days.

Normally routine, the hearing turned into a mini-trial when defense attorney Mark O’Mara challenged prosecutors' probable-cause affidavit – the document in which prosecutors made their case for arresting Mr. Zimmerman. One of the lead investigators and even Zimmerman himself took the stand. Here are five things we learned.


See at link.

Very informative. Thanks.


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Post by: sunshine12 on April 20, 2012, 07:45:23 PM
i'm watching JVM and that woman Sunny Hostin is on.  I cannot stand her.  During the Casey Anthony case she was so critical of the prosecution, yet suprise suprise, here she is singing the prosecutions praises when it is obvious that the prosecution was not good today.  This is so clearly about race when it shouldn't be.


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Post by: cookie on April 20, 2012, 10:20:55 PM
i'm watching JVM and that woman Sunny Hostin is on.  I cannot stand her.  During the Casey Anthony case she was so critical of the prosecution, yet suprise suprise, here she is singing the prosecutions praises when it is obvious that the prosecution was not good today.  This is so clearly about race when it shouldn't be.


Said almost the exact same words to hubs today when we were watching her on InSessions...she is terrible.  Don't know why they have her as a consultant anyways...


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 20, 2012, 10:53:21 PM
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/
April 16, 2012

(http://i.imgur.com/PmbvV.png)


April 17th, 2012 8:15 a.m.
(http://i.imgur.com/g37OT.png)

April 20th 2012 9:38 p.m.
(http://i.imgur.com/iwWMo.png)


http://www.myfoxdfw.com/
 I don't know how many times a person can vote in a given time or anything like that, but I've been watching to see if there's a trend one way or another.  It probably doesn't prove anything and I'll bet the vote results would vary geographically and etc.  ::MonkeyWink:: I just find it interesting. 


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Post by: grace-land on April 21, 2012, 02:07:37 AM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/20/george_zimmerman_sta.html

George Zimmerman: State Attorney Norm Wolfinger will not seek re-election
Last Updated: Friday, April 20, 2012 @ 07:36PM

SANFORD --
The state attorney who originally handled the George Zimmerman case will not seek re-election.
 
Norm Wolfinger, the long-time state attorney for Brevard and Seminole counties, made the announcement Friday.
 
Wolfinger, 66, has been state attorney for the past 27 years.
 
Wolfinger has come under fire for his part in the Zimmerman case. The family of Trayvon Martin has accused Wolfinger of meeting with Sanford's police chief the night George Zimmerman was taken into questioning for shooting and killing Trayvon Martin, and of telling police not to arrest Zimmerman.
 
Wolfinger has denied that accusation. He recused himself from the case, and Gov. Rick Scott appointed Jacksonville State Attorney Angela Corey to handle the case.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: grace-land on April 21, 2012, 02:15:53 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mari-fagel/george-zimmerman-bond-hearing_b_1441261.html

Zimmerman's Bond Hearing: Mark O'Mara Gets Rave Reviews for His Performance
Posted: 04/20/2012 6:17 pm

George Zimmerman's bond hearing is over and his attorney Mark O'Mara got exactly what he wanted: a reasonable bond of $150,000 and a GPS monitoring device for his client. Yet, Friday's hearing was much more than just a bond hearing, it was O'Mara's chance to perform for the public, the media and try to sway opinion of his notorious client. And for that performance, all I can say is kudos and offer a glowing review of his "theatrical" debut.

All the judge needed to know to make his decision was whether Zimmerman was a flight risk or a danger to society and a discussion of his prior criminal history. So why did O'Mara lay into investigator Dale Gilbreath and grill him on the affidavit? Why did Zimmerman's family discuss his good deeds, including mentoring young African-American boys? Why did George Zimmerman himself take the stand to apologize, a move unheard of for a criminal defendant at a bond hearing? Simple; O'Mara is trying to educate the public and change the minds of potential jurors by painting the picture that his client is a good guy and the prosecution is unfairly out to get him.
 ::snipping2::
The key to the performance, though, was O'Mara's battle scene with investigator Dale Gilbreath. He got up and questioned Gilbreath so much about the affidavit that the investigator came off looking like a fool. First, Gilbreath admitted he wasn't aware of any inquiry to Trayvon Martin's father as to whether he could identify the voice heard screaming in the 911 calls as his son's. Gilbreath also admitted that he does not know who started the fight, does not have evidence to prove who started the fight and does not have evidence to contradict Zimmerman's statement that Martin started the fight. He also testified he does not have evidence to contradict Zimmerman's assertion that he turned back around to walk to his car. O'Mara also laid into Gilbreath over the use of "profiling" in the affidavit and the claim that Zimmerman "continued to follow" Martin even after he was told by a dispatcher not to. This claim that he "continued to follow" is key to the case, because it helps the prosecution prove he had an intent to kill, which is grounds for a 2nd degree murder conviction.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: Red on April 21, 2012, 10:02:05 AM
George Zimmerman Apologizes to Parents of Trayvon Martin, “I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son” … Zimmerman’s Bail Set At $150K (VIDEO)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/04/20/george-zimmerman-apologizes-to-parents-of-trayvon-martin-zimmermans-bail-set-at-150k-video/

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After having been charged with second degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman appeared in the Sanford, FL courtroom this morning where his bail was set at $150,000. George Zimmerman could be out within days and mighty be allowed to live outside Florida for his own safety. With the 10% cash payment customarily made to secure bond, George Zimmerman could be freed with $15,000 from his family. Also, during today’s hearing Zimmerman also apologized to the parents of Trayvon Martin.

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“I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son. I did not know how old he was. I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. And I did not know if he was armed or not.”
::snipping2::

Making the apology and admitting to things that happened in the case on a bond hearing was certainly an interesting and unique approach to a defense. I think one of the main issues when every one followed the Casey Anthony murder trial was that she was without remorse in the death of little Caylee to the end. George Zimmerman is taking quite the opposite approach.

What is also interesting is that the bias MSM and the race baiter who descended upon Sanford, FL and tried to hijack the sad and tragic death of Trayvon Martin tried to make this case be unique and out of the norm ... a racial hate crime. However, when the facts of the case are reviewed and a judge reviews the case, it was handled as usual with a defendant getting granted bail.

If this was a hate crime there would never have been bail granted.

It is unfortunate that the MSM and the race baiters ginned up the hysteria and racial hatred surrounding this case. It remains to be seen what the outcome will be to this case when only the facts and evidence are taken into account.


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Post by: sharon on April 21, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/20/2759949/keep-the-record-open.html

Keep the record open
 
OUR OPINION: Judge should unseal Zimmerman case records
By The Miami Herald Editorial
HeraldEd@MiamiHerald.com

Now that a new circuit judge in Sanford has been assigned to hear the case of George Zimmerman involving the tragic shooting death of Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin, he seems to be on the right track to ensure that court documents in the case become a matter of public record, as they should be.

Circuit Court Judge Jessica Recksiedler rightly recused herself after a defense attorney raised conflict of interest questions. But before stepping down, she acted with unseemly haste in granting a motion to seal the file.

That brought this newspaper and other news organizations into court to ask for a reversal of that decision because Florida’s open records law, one of the broadest in the country, makes it clear that virtually all court records are public, along with most evidence.

The law establishes precise, narrow grounds for making exceptions, but Judge Recksiedler not only failed to consider whether this case met the legal test for such an exception, she didn’t even give the news media a chance to be heard before making her ruling.

The judge granted a defense motion to seal the records because of extensive pre-trial publicity, and the state’s attorney did not object.

Not so fast.

 ::snipping2::

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/20/2759949/keep-the-record-open.html#storylink=cpy


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Post by: Toler on April 21, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
Zimmerman urged to keep low profile after release

SANFORD, Fla. — George Zimmerman is getting out of jail. Now his defense team has to worry about keeping the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of gunning down Trayvon Martin safe on the outside.
 
Defense attorneys for other high-profile clients who awaited trial on bail had advice for how to protect the man whose shooting of the unarmed black 17-year-old sparked nationwide protests: Get him out of Florida, keep him from going out in public and never leave him alone.
 
"He clearly puts himself in jeopardy unless he takes precautions," said New York attorney Barry Slotnick, who represented subway shooter Bernhard Goetz in the 1980s.
 
A half dozen reporters, photographers and cameramen began staking out the Seminole County Jail early Saturday in Sanford, a day after a Florida judge agreed to let Zimmerman out on $150,000 bail. Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said it would take a few days before Zimmerman is released. His family needs time to secure collateral for the bail, Zimmerman needs to be fitted with an electronic monitoring device and O'Mara said he must find a secure location for him.  ::snipping2::

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/apr/21/zimmerman-urged-to-keep-low-profile-after-release/?ap


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Post by: Blonde on April 21, 2012, 03:54:54 PM
Warning Graphic Photo: Possible New Evidence Shows George Zimmerman's Bloodied Head
By MATT GUTMAN and SENI TIENABESO | Good Morning America – Fri, Apr 20, 201
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A new photograph obtained exclusively by ABC News showing the bloodied back of George Zimmerman's head, which was taken three minutes after he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, gives possible credence to his claim that Martin had bashed his head against the concrete as he fought for his life.

Click here to view the image. Warning: graphic content.

The revelation comes as his attorney and prosecutors prepare for Zimmerman's bail hearing today, which could result in his being released from jail. Zimmerman, 28, is being held on charges of second-degree murder for the Feb. 26  ::snipping2::

http://news.yahoo.com/warning-graphic-photo-possible-evidence-shows-george-zimmermans-050145810--abc-news-topstories.html


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Post by: alagary on April 21, 2012, 06:50:51 PM
Might have missed, Does Zimmermans bond take away his right to be armed?


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Post by: Red on April 21, 2012, 07:47:16 PM
ABC News Has Exclusive Pic of George Zimmerman’s Bloodied Head Post Trayvon Martin Shooting Death (Photo – VIDEO)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/04/21/abc-news-has-exclusive-pic-of-george-zimmermans-bloodied-head-post-trayvon-martin-shooting-death/

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The bloodied photo of George Zimmerman paints quite a different picture than what was initially and emotionally spread by much of the liberal MSM in that Zimmerman stalked and murdered Trayvon Martin in cold blood. Zimmerman and his attorneys have stated from the outset that he [Zimmerman] fired in self-defense after Trayvon threw the first punch, knocked Zimmerman to the ground and then began pounding his head against a sidewalk.

It will be really interesting to see what so-called evidence that the prosecution has other than what we already know in this case.


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Post by: Red on April 21, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
Might have missed, Does Zimmermans bond take away his right to be armed?

Yes. One of the restrictions of his bail is that there was no possession of any fire arm. Which basically makes him a sitting duck and a target.  I guess the NBPP will like that retriction.

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2012/04/20/nr-zimmerman-bond.cnn


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Post by: cookie on April 21, 2012, 07:55:35 PM
George Zimmerman Apologizes to Parents of Trayvon Martin, “I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son” … Zimmerman’s Bail Set At $150K (VIDEO)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/04/20/george-zimmerman-apologizes-to-parents-of-trayvon-martin-zimmermans-bail-set-at-150k-video/

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After having been charged with second degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman appeared in the Sanford, FL courtroom this morning where his bail was set at $150,000. George Zimmerman could be out within days and mighty be allowed to live outside Florida for his own safety. With the 10% cash payment customarily made to secure bond, George Zimmerman could be freed with $15,000 from his family. Also, during today’s hearing Zimmerman also apologized to the parents of Trayvon Martin.

Quote
“I wanted to say I am sorry for the loss of your son. I did not know how old he was. I thought he was a little bit younger than I am. And I did not know if he was armed or not.”
::snipping2::

Making the apology and admitting to things that happened in the case on a bond hearing was certainly an interesting and unique approach to a defense. I think one of the main issues when every one followed the Casey Anthony murder trial was that she was without remorse in the death of little Caylee to the end. George Zimmerman is taking quite the opposite approach.

What is also interesting is that the bias MSM and the race baiter who descended upon Sanford, FL and tried to hijack the sad and tragic death of Trayvon Martin tried to make this case be unique and out of the norm ... a racial hate crime. However, when the facts of the case are reviewed and a judge reviews the case, it was handled as usual with a defendant getting granted bail.

If this was a hate crime there would never have been bail granted.

It is unfortunate that the MSM and the race baiters ginned up the hysteria and racial hatred surrounding this case. It remains to be seen what the outcome will be to this case when only the facts and evidence are taken into account.

I so agree with you on this..especially about the race baiters...
In the case where the black woman killed the white mother recently in cold blood to get her 3 day old baby, where are the race baiters on that case? Nowhere to be found. Not every killing of different races is racial...if this would have been a white woman killing a black woman in cold blood, Jessie and Al Sharpton and entourage would have been in town like yesterday to make sure that they could stir up trouble. I wish that they represented civil rights for every race.  Just once..then maybe I would have a better opinion of them..
Every killing is not a hate or racial crime...jmo...


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Post by: Toler on April 21, 2012, 09:09:33 PM
George Zimmerman: Supporters gather outside courthouse

SANFORD --
George Zimmerman apologized for shooting Trayvon Martin during a bond hearing Friday.
 Now, as he's waiting to get out of jail, he’s getting some new support.
 
In a message of support, they stood in front of the Seminole County courthouse with homemade signs to let Zimmerman know he has people in his corner.
 
The signs read, “Innocent Until..” and “Justice for Zimmerman.”
 
It was a small group but their intentions were big -- to let George Zimmerman know that they believe he hasn't been treated fairly by the media or the court of public opinion.
 
Wesley Howell said he thinks it's only going to get worse and that's not right.
 
“I wanted to come out because I could tell from what was going on in the news media, it looks like Zimmerman is getting, about to get railroaded into prison without even a fair trial and I think that's wrong,” said Altamonte Springs resident Wesley Howell.  ::snipping2::

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/21/george_zimmerman_sup.html



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 22, 2012, 12:57:41 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/04/20/us-florida-zimmerman-hearing.html

Trayvon Martin shooter to be freed on $150K bail
George Zimmerman says sorry to teen's parents, who call it an 'unmeaningful apology'
CBC News
Posted: Apr 20, 2012 4:51 AM ET
Last Updated: Apr 20, 2012 1:35 PM ET

The Florida man accused of second-degree murder for shooting unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin was granted bail Friday but won't go free until his security can be assured.
 
A judge in Sanford, Fla., decided that George Zimmerman can be released on a $150,000 US bond, far less than the $1 million prosecutors were requesting. Zimmerman and his family will have to post $15,000 of that in cash and the rest as collateral.
 
Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester set several other bail conditions on Zimmerman:
He must wear an electronic monitoring device and surrender his passport.
He can't possess any firearms.
He can't use alcohol or drugs.
He must observe a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew and report to authorities every three days.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: sharon on April 22, 2012, 07:36:21 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/21/2761338/a-committed-conservative-back.html

A ‘committed conservative’ back in spotlight over Stand Your Ground
 
Dennis Baxley, the state representative who championed the self-defense law at the heart of the Trayvon Martin case, is back in the national spotlight.

By Steve Bousquet
Herald/Times Tallahassee Bureau

OCALA -- Dennis Baxley has always stood his ground in Florida’s political arena.

The Republican state representative who championed the self-defense law at the heart of the Trayvon Martin case is back in a familiar place — the national spotlight.

 ::snipping2::

But it was a gunshot fired by George Zimmerman at a Sanford townhouse complex that ensured that Baxley’s signature accomplishment would be his sponsorship seven years ago of the so-called “stand your ground” law.

A lifelong National Rifle Association member who’s been known to sip his coffee from an NRA mug, Baxley has sponsored numerous gun laws in a career marked by his close friendship with the tenacious gun lobbyist Marion Hammer, whom he calls “awesome.”

He once joked in public that they were having a love affair.

Baxley is proud of the “stand your ground” law and believes it has saved many lives, but based on news accounts, he does not believe Zimmerman can use it to justify pursuing and killing Martin.

“I still don’t think it applies,” he says. “Nothing in this statute authorizes ‘pursuit, confront, provoke.’ ”

 ::snipping2::


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Post by: sharon on April 22, 2012, 07:40:17 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/21/2761111/controversial-pastor-weighs-in.html

Controversial pastor weighs in on Trayvon Martin case

The Gainesville pastor who burned a Quran last year led a rally in Sanford to demand a fair trial in the George Zimmerman shooting case.

By Audra D.S. Burch
aburch@MiamiHerald.com

SANFORD -- – In front of the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center where George Zimmerman was granted bond, Pastor Terry Jones, the Gainesville church leader who burned a Quran last year, gave a fiery speech Saturday in which he demanded the constitutional rights of Zimmerman be protected as his case moves through the judicial system.

“I am in no way taking a position on whether Zimmerman is guilty or innocent. I am here for truth and justice and standing up for the constitutional rights,” said Jones, who heads Dove World Outreach Center and carries a pistol for his own protection. “Some of the black community just decided Zimmerman is guilty. I say there has to be due process. In America, you are innocent until proven guilty.’’

On Friday, a judge granted Zimmerman a $150,000 bond – along with restrictions including electronic monitoring -- but it could be several days before he is actually released. He faces second-degree murder charges in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old unarmed Miami Gardens teen who was visiting his father in Sanford while suspended from high school almost two months ago. In the weeks after his death, communities across the nation held rallies and protests calling for Zimmerman’s arrest.

Standing in front of about two dozen supporters, Jones said he traveled to Sanford to directly address simmering racial tension in the community which he blamed on “poisonous” black leaders Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. He said the two hijacked the controversial shooting case, fanned race-based fears and helped divide the town. Jones later acknowledged that he had not heard Sharpton, in particular, say anything racially provocative related to the case but said his response was based on comments Sharpton made in the past.

 ::snipping2::

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/21/2761111/controversial-pastor-weighs-in.html#storylink=cpy


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Post by: cookie on April 22, 2012, 08:15:12 AM
IMO...you don't have to hear Sharpton daily to know that he tries to racially divide on any case that he gets involved in...that is his goal and to get his mug on camera..Jessie too..
They don't know the facts of this case anymore than the rest of us do...but they were leading the marches and fueling the fires...they should call for calm and patience and let the justice system do their job..
All just my humble opinion...


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Post by: jamcakes on April 22, 2012, 11:16:31 AM
IMO...you don't have to hear Sharpton daily to know that he tries to racially divide on any case that he gets involved in...that is his goal and to get his mug on camera..Jessie too..
They don't know the facts of this case anymore than the rest of us do...but they were leading the marches and fueling the fires...they should call for calm and patience and let the justice system do their job..
All just my humble opinion...


ITA, but they are sycophants who prey on others misfortunes to further their own agenda and fame. They could use their charisma and leadership to better relationships, but they often choose to further divide.


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Post by: Red on April 22, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
Now This is a Hate Crime: Alton L. Hayes III … I Beat Up White Man Because I Am Mad About Trayvon Martin Case … The MSM, Sharpton & Jackson Remain Silent

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/04/21/now-this-is-a-hate-crime-alton-l-hayes-iii-i-beat-up-white-man-because-i-am-mad-about-trayvon-martin-case-the-msm-sharpton-jackson-remain-silent/

The following is a note to Sharpton, Jackson, the bias MSM and those political race baiters to show them exactly what a "HATE CRIME" looks, sounds and smells like.

Quote
May this be a reminder to the President Barack Obama, the bias MSM, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Oprah Winfrey, Rep. Maxine Watters (D-CA),  the New Black Panther Party and the rest of the foolish sheep that allow themselves to be manipulated by racist hate … THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED A HATE CRIME!!!

Alton L. Hayes III, 18,  and a 15 year old boy claimed they robbed and assaulted a victim because he was upset by the Trayvon Martin case and beat the man up because he was white. So let’s understand this … two black beat the crap out of a white guy because they were upset about Trayvon Martin? Really?

So when can we expect those that use the race card at every turn to show up and express their outrage? In reality, the race baiters should be charged as co-conspirators in this crime as they are the ones who fanned the fires of racism, hate and revenge.



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Post by: Toler on April 22, 2012, 12:02:51 PM
The Trayvon Martin Shooting “DeeDee” Reveals The False “Truths


http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/


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Post by: cookie on April 22, 2012, 01:36:02 PM
Now This is a Hate Crime: Alton L. Hayes III … I Beat Up White Man Because I Am Mad About Trayvon Martin Case … The MSM, Sharpton & Jackson Remain Silent

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/04/21/now-this-is-a-hate-crime-alton-l-hayes-iii-i-beat-up-white-man-because-i-am-mad-about-trayvon-martin-case-the-msm-sharpton-jackson-remain-silent/

The following is a note to Sharpton, Jackson, the bias MSM and those political race baiters to show them exactly what a "HATE CRIME" looks, sounds and smells like.

Quote
May this be a reminder to the President Barack Obama, the bias MSM, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Oprah Winfrey, Rep. Maxine Watters (D-CA),  the New Black Panther Party and the rest of the foolish sheep that allow themselves to be manipulated by racist hate … THIS IS WHAT IS CALLED A HATE CRIME!!!

Alton L. Hayes III, 18,  and a 15 year old boy claimed they robbed and assaulted a victim because he was upset by the Trayvon Martin case and beat the man up because he was white. So let’s understand this … two black beat the crap out of a white guy because they were upset about Trayvon Martin? Really?

So when can we expect those that use the race card at every turn to show up and express their outrage? In reality, the race baiters should be charged as co-conspirators in this crime as they are the ones who fanned the fires of racism, hate and revenge.



Agree


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Post by: cookie on April 22, 2012, 02:02:32 PM
The Trayvon Martin Shooting “DeeDee” Reveals The False “Truths


http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/


Very interesting Toler..


Sooo, did Sabrina not attend the memorial or the viewing of Trayvon? The above article said that Sabrina remained at home...really?
And I would like to know why the girl that Trayvon was speaking with that night not call 911 after she lost contact with him? I think that once questioned, her story might prove to have plenty of holes and questions in it...jmo...


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Post by: alagary on April 22, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
The Trayvon Martin Shooting “DeeDee” Reveals The False “Truths


http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/
From what the writer has about the "girlfriends" twitter it will be a hoot to watch her testify.


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Post by: grace-land on April 22, 2012, 05:05:56 PM
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/21/11324566-george-zimmerman-prepares-for-release-from-jail-lawyer-visits

George Zimmerman prepares for release from jail; lawyer visits

George Zimmerman's lawyer visited him Saturday in a Florida jail as he prepared for his release on bail, which could occur mid-week. 

Attorney Mark O'Mara said it would take several days before Zimmerman is released, as his family has been having trouble putting together enough money for collateral. Zimmerman also must be fitted with an electronic monitoring device and O'Mara must find him a secure location.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: grace-land on April 22, 2012, 05:12:09 PM
http://**/breaking-news/ci_20455699/all-eyes-florida-jail-george-zimmerman-awaits-release

All eyes on Florida jail as George Zimmerman awaits release on bail
Posted:   04/22/2012 01:11:21 PM PDT
April 22, 2012 8:11 PM GMTUpdated:   04/22/2012 01:11:22 PM PDT

SANFORD, Fla. -- All eyes remain on the Florida jail where the man charged with murdering 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is awaiting release on bail, and it could be several days before he leaves.

George Zimmerman's attorney was still working Sunday to secure the money for bail and a safe place for the 28-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer to stay. But residents in Sanford, where Martin was killed, don't expect a ruckus once Zimmerman is released.

City commissioners haven't received calls from nervous residents. Protesters haven't showed up outside the jail. And talk at one local coffee shop seldom focused on the case.

"It's just kind of a non-issue now," said Michele Church, a server at Mel's Family Diner. "That's pretty much all anybody in Sanford wanted, was an arrest, so it could be sorted out in the court system."
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: grace-land on April 23, 2012, 12:26:00 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/george-zimmerman-released-fla-jail-16192275

George Zimmerman Released From Fla. Jail
SANFORD, Fla. April 23, 2012 (AP)

George Zimmerman has been released from a Florida jail on $150,000 bond as he awaits trial for shooting Trayvon Martin.
 
The neighborhood watch volunteer left the Seminole County jail around midnight Sunday.



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Post by: grace-land on April 23, 2012, 12:30:30 AM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jkaOJOIQRP9Mn9EP3EOx6mZuZKDg?docId=1991366cdefd4b52a4236dca1f8fa796

George Zimmerman released from Fla. jail
(AP) – 3 minutes ago 

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — George Zimmerman was released around midnight Sunday from a county jail on $150,000 bail as he awaits his second-degree murder trial for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin.

The neighborhood watch volunteer was wearing a brown jacket and blue jeans and carrying a paper bag. He met a man in a white vehicle and drove away. His ultimate destination is being kept secret for his safety and it could be outside Florida.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: Red on April 23, 2012, 07:57:38 AM

George Zimmerman Released from Jail on Bond in Trayvon Martin Shooting Death
 
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/04/23/george-zimmerman-released-from-jail-on-bond-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-death/

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Under the cloak of darkness, George Zimmerman is released from jail on bond …

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot and killed an unarmed Trayvon Martin, was released from a Seminole County jail in Sanford, FL  Sunday night at approximately midnight. Zimmerman had been charged with second degree murder in the shooting death of 17 year old Trayvon Martin.  Last week the judge set bail for George Zimmerman at $150,000 bond. It was determined that Zimmerman was not a flight rick or a danger to the community.
::snipping2::


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Post by: Toler on April 23, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
Trayvon Martin's parents have 'heavy heart' after Zimmerman's release

ORLANDO --
Trayvon Martin's parents have a 'heavy heart' now that neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman has been released from a Florida jail on bail as he awaits his second-degree murder trial.

Attorney Benjamin Crump represents Martin's parents. Crump said today that they would rather have seen Zimmerman stay in jail until he is tried for killing their 17-year-old son during a Feb. 26 confrontation at a gated community.

Crump says Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton hope Zimmerman's freedom is temporary.

 ::snipping2::

http://www2.tbo.com/news/nation-world/2012/apr/23/trayvon-martins-parents-have-heavy-heart-after-zim-ar-395602/?referer=None&shorturl=http://tbo.ly/ILFCIC


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Post by: Toler on April 23, 2012, 11:49:04 AM
Zimmerman's attorney apologizes for client's apology to Trayvon Martin's parents

George Zimmerman’s attorney said Monday that his client’s apology to the family of Trayvon Martin was ill-timed given the family’s previous statements, and he’s sorry if they felt it was insincere.

During his bond hearing last week, Zimmerman addressed Martin’s family directly, saying he was sorry for the loss of their son. Speaking on “CBS This Morning” Monday, attorney Mark O’Mara said he didn’t realize the family would feel the apology came at the wrong time.
 
“Had I known or been told that that wasn't the time, it wouldn't have happened. So, I apologize for that,” O’Mara said.

Before the hearing, Zimmerman’s camp had reached out to the family to see if he could apologize privately. But Martin’s parents rejected that invitation during a press conference.
 
“He had a Web page — never apologized there. Had the voicemails we’ve heard — never apologized then,” the family’s attorney, Benjamin Crump, said at a news conference. “So, we feel that you all can conclude for yourselves what motivations there are.”  ::snipping2::

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11351669-zimmermans-attorney-apologizes-for-clients-apology-to-trayvon-martins-parents?lite


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Post by: Toler on April 23, 2012, 11:59:49 AM
George Zimmerman was released on $150,000 bail late Sunday night in what the Associated Press called a “low-key event.” Threats of death from the Twitter lynch mob were anything but low-key.

http://twitchy.com/2012/04/23/twitter-lynch-mob-now-that-george-zimmerman-is-out-on-bail-lets-kill-him/


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Post by: KittyMom on April 23, 2012, 12:02:41 PM
The Trayvon Martin Shooting “DeeDee” Reveals The False “Truths


http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/
WOW.  This blows holes big enough for a cruise ship to float through in the girlfriend story.  And so scary how the attys can manipulate the internet and media. 


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Post by: Toler on April 23, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
Trayvon, Dee-Dee, and D.J.

Dee-Dee's Story
 
Dee-Dee, Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, told a very short story, but a compelling one.   It's how we first learned about the now iconic hoodie.  But above all, it's the main source for the media's narrative of the Trayvon Martin shooting.  Before Dee-Dee, we had only the unarmed teenager on an errand to buy Skittles and tea for the son of his dad's girlfriend.  After March 20, we had some drama.  Trayvon was chased by George Zimmerman.  He was frightened and tried to get away.  He thought he'd succeeded.  But the racist cop-wannabe tracked him down and shot him.
 
Shortly after he took on the case, attorney Benjamin Crump decided to launch a media campaign on behalf of his client.  Crump could never have imagined what a success this would be.  A story appeared in Reuters on March 7.  "Wow!" said the producer of CBS This Morning after he was approached, "this has to be told."  And so the shooting was featured on his program the next morning.  It was picked up by ABC two days later.
 
On March 16, when interest was flagging, the Sanford mayor was pressured to overrule the police and release the 911 tapes and Zimmerman's recorded call.  Now the media had screams.  Never mind that the one eyewitness had said it was Zimmerman screaming and that he himself had yelled at Martin to stop pounding the watch captain.  Never mind that Zimmerman had injuries to his nose, his face, and the back of his head.  The media convinced themselves that it was Martin who was screaming, and convinced those who get their news from Brian, Diane, and Scott. 
 
Four days later, Dee-Dee's tape was released, a phone interview with ABC.  Now the media had its narrative. On the 23rd, President Obama was moved to declare, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."  "All of these things worked perfectly," said Ryan Julison, in charge of publicity for Crump's law firm.  "They came out in just the right sequence for us."  ::snipping2:: 


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/dee-dee_trayvon_and_dj.html#ixzz1ssiBeZxf


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 23, 2012, 12:45:36 PM
HERALD EXCLUSIVE: Sources say Chief Bill Lee Jr. will permanently step down this afternoon

Former Police Chief Bill Lee Jr. announces to the media March 22 that he will temporarily step down as police chief of the Sanford Police Department.
slideshow Sources have revealed to The Sanford Herald that former Chief Bill Lee Jr. will permanently resign this afternoon.

City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr. has confirmed that there will be a special meeting held with city commissioners today at 4 p.m.

Sources said that commissioners will discuss a severance package for Lee during the special meeting. Bonaparte would not confirm or deny a discussion about a severance package.
   ::snipping2:: 

http://mysanfordherald.com/view/full_story/18330140/article-HERALD-EXCLUSIVE-Chief-Bill-Lee-Jr--will-permanently-step-down-this-afternoon-?instance=home_news_right


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Post by: KittyMom on April 23, 2012, 01:11:21 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/someone-kill-judge_640598.html

'Someone Kill the Judge'

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 23, 2012, 02:16:13 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-released-bail-20120423,0,7571793.story
Judge unseals file in Trayvon Martin murder case
Court unseals some records hours after George Zimmerman released on bond with GPS tracker early Monday.

April 23, 2012

 ::snipping2::
The newly unsealed court file offered bits of new information but little of substance. It revealed that Zimmerman has already pleaded not guilty, something that happened when defense attorney Mark O'Mara filed a written plea several days ago.

O'Mara also demanded all the evidence the state has gathered against his client, something routine in criminal cases. What's important in this filing, though, is the likely delivery date: this Friday.

In a typical case, that would mean that as of Friday, all the evidence would be released to the public as well as O'Mara, for example, crime scene photos, Trayvon's phone records, his autopsy results.

But O'Mara and Special Prosecutor Angela Corey have made it clear they want to keep some if not all of those things a secret.

There's a hearing scheduled Friday, a motion by media attorneys fighting to make sure the evidence does become public.

Zimmerman is not expected to appear.

While he awaits trial, he's expected to live out of state, but officials will be able to monitor his actions no matter where he is living while he awaits trial. Zimmerman had gone into hiding in an unknown location outside of Florida because of threats against his life.
 ::snipping2::
Court records show Zimmerman's arraignment was moved up to May 8, a hearing during which a defendant formally enters a plea. That, though, was made moot by his lawyer filing a written not guilty plea several days ago.
 ::snipping2::
At Friday's bond hearing, Special Prosecutor Angela Corey and prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda failed to convince the judge that Zimmerman should stay locked up.

The judge ordered Zimmerman to wear a GPS monitoring device, give up any guns, abide by a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew plus imposed other restrictions. O'Mara surrendered Zimmerman's passport.

According to the Seminole County website, Electronic Monitoring Protection and Crime Tracking program "provides real-time, 24/7 monitoring of offenders' whereabouts via GPS mapping. Offenders are subject to immediate arrest if they break the rules, for example leave the area where they've been ordered to stay or tamper with their monitoring equipment.


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Post by: iluvmua on April 23, 2012, 04:07:14 PM
I hope like hell GZ wins this.

everyday it seems more and more that this really was a case for self defense.



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Post by: MuffyBee on April 23, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i7K4YzPp7EJP42o758vRZxZ9SyCw?docId=bc92cf41d8764b66adfafa2f9c5aabd3
Resignation of chief in Martin case rejected
By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press
April 23, 2012

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — The Sanford city commission rejected the resignation of the police chief harshly criticized for his handling of the Trayvon Martin case.

The commissioners voted 3-2 Monday to reject the resignation of Bill Lee. The majority blamed the uproar surrounding Martin's death on outsiders.
 ::snipping2::

Police did not initially charge 28-year-old George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who says he shot the 17-year-old Martin in self-defense.
Lee temporarily stepped down as police chief on March 22, saying he wanted to let tensions cool.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 23, 2012, 08:58:55 PM
Documents released in George Zimmerman case
 
SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Just hours after George Zimmerman walked out of the Seminole County jail $150,000 bail, the court unsealed several documents. (see below for documents)
 
Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester issued an order to unseal several documents. According to one of the documents released Monday, Zimmerman's arraignment was pushed forward from May 29 to May 8.  ::snipping2:: 


Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/trayvon_martin/042312-documents-released-in-george-zimmerman-case#ixzz1sulrfXLC

Documents are listed lower/left page.


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Post by: KittyMom on April 23, 2012, 09:03:22 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i7K4YzPp7EJP42o758vRZxZ9SyCw?docId=bc92cf41d8764b66adfafa2f9c5aabd3
Resignation of chief in Martin case rejected
By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press
April 23, 2012

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — The Sanford city commission rejected the resignation of the police chief harshly criticized for his handling of the Trayvon Martin case.

The commissioners voted 3-2 Monday to reject the resignation of Bill Lee. The majority blamed the uproar surrounding Martin's death on outsiders.
 ::snipping2::

Police did not initially charge 28-year-old George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who says he shot the 17-year-old Martin in self-defense.
Lee temporarily stepped down as police chief on March 22, saying he wanted to let tensions cool.

Thankfully, it appears there are folks there with some common sense.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 23, 2012, 09:09:33 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i7K4YzPp7EJP42o758vRZxZ9SyCw?docId=bc92cf41d8764b66adfafa2f9c5aabd3
Resignation of chief in Martin case rejected
By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press
April 23, 2012

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — The Sanford city commission rejected the resignation of the police chief harshly criticized for his handling of the Trayvon Martin case.

The commissioners voted 3-2 Monday to reject the resignation of Bill Lee. The majority blamed the uproar surrounding Martin's death on outsiders.
 ::snipping2::

Police did not initially charge 28-year-old George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who says he shot the 17-year-old Martin in self-defense.
Lee temporarily stepped down as police chief on March 22, saying he wanted to let tensions cool.

Thankfully, it appears there are folks there with some common sense.

 ::rhino::


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 23, 2012, 09:13:42 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/23/george-zimmerman-back-into-hiding-as-florida-police-chief-survives-board-vote/
George Zimmerman back into hiding, as Florida police chief survives board vote in case
April 23, 2012

 ::snipping2::
The police chief is on paid leave. Not too long ago, the commissioners gave him a "no confidence vote" that city Manager Norton Bonaparte said still stands. The shooting also led to the local prosecutor recusing himself from the case, and the governor appointing Angela Corey, who eventually charged Zimmerman.

The majority of commissioners on Monday blamed the polarization over the Martin case and its handling by the police department on outside groups. Lee had supporters at the meeting who wore, "Bring Back Billy" T-shirts, though there were detractors as well.

"I'm disappointed but not surprised," said Velma Williams, the lone black representative on the commission who voted to accept the resignation.

The majority of commissioners said they wanted to wait for an outside investigation to conclude into the handling of the case by police before accepting the resignation agreement drawn up by the city manager and Lee. Commissioners in reading from the agreement said Lee didn't want to step down, but thought it was for the best.

The city is also looking to find a permanent interim chief, perhaps as early as next week, Bonaparte said.
More...


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Post by: Toler on April 23, 2012, 09:22:09 PM
Ben Crump: 'The lying has already begun'
Trayvon Martin's family attorney takes aim at George Zimmerman's defense

An attorney for Trayvon Martin's family believes the son's shooter is lying about injuries he sustained the night he killed the unarmed 17-year-old.

"If this is any indication of what's to come, then the lying has already begun," attorney Ben Crump told reporters on Sunday, while promoting a documentary at the Florida Film Festival on another case.

Crump took aim at Zimmerman's defense after it seemed to gain momentum on Friday.ABC News obtained a picture that appears to support Zimmerman's claim that Martin attacked him before he fired the shot in self-defense. The picture shows Zimmerman's bloody head wounds and was reportedly taken just after the confrontation.

However, Crump quickly discounted the image and anything else Zimmerman claims.

"When you look at those pictures and you see those two little cuts on his head, that is not consistent with your head being pounded into the pavement," said Crump. "Objective evidence, evidence we can see and touch, is more important than whatever George Zimmerman says because we have to remember Trayvon Martin isn't here to tell us his version of what happened."

Crump pointed to the 911 call where someone is heard screaming before the fatal gunshot.

But in court on Friday, Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara raised doubt about who was screaming on that call, poked holes into the charging affidavit, and even stumped one of the state's investigators. With Zimmerman's pending freedom, O'Mara said they will now be able to prepare the case together to build an even better defense.

That freedom isn't easy for the Martin family.

"They're just praying now and trying to hope that his freedom is temporary because the damage that he's caused to them is permanent,"   ::snipping2::

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Ben-Crump-The-lying-has-already-begun/-/1637132/11562322/-/n978b8/-/index.html


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 23, 2012, 09:24:28 PM
Earlier on in the case, Trayvon's mom made it very clear she was upset because George Zimmerman didn't apologize for shooting her son.  She said when someone does wrong, (not exact quote) they should apologize.  George Zimmerman apologized to his parents in court, but she wouldn't even look at him.  And I guess now the apology wasn't good enough.  Nothing will bring back her son.  It's my belief that even if George had gotten down on bended knee and expressed his sorrow, it wouldn't have been good enough.  I think Trayvon's parents are under pressure not to cave in.  They are pressured by certain people, including Al Sharpton etal to keep the fires of hatred burning.  For Trayvon's parents to show anything short of disdain toward George Zimmerman would get them a rebuke behind doors.  Sort of like when Trayvon's mom said on Today's Show the shooting was an accident.  And then that got changed Trayvon was profiled and the meeting of her son and George was an accident.  


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/cerabino-george-zimmermans-public-apology-misses-mark-2321203.html
Cerabino: George Zimmerman's public apology misses mark

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11351669-zimmermans-attorney-apologizes-for-clients-apology-to-trayvon-martins-parents?lite
Zimmerman's attorney apologizes for client's apology to Trayvon Martin's parents

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/20/george_zimmerman_apo.html
George Zimmerman: Apologizes to Martin family, bond set

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-04-12/news/31332992_1_face-charges-second-degree-murder-justice-system
Trayvon Martin case: Slain teen’s mom, Sybrina Fulton, says killing was ‘an accident’



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Post by: cookie on April 23, 2012, 09:33:21 PM
I am starting to sway more towards GZ than I have in the past.  I don't like their attorney and I don't like how this whole case has been portrayed thus far. I think that there have been lies told, but not just from the defense side. Starting with the pictures of Trayvon when he was a younger kid instead of recent photos, the girlfriend who never called 911 or Trayvon's parents when she lost contact with him, knowing that he was being followed etc
I can't wait till we get more info on all of this.


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 23, 2012, 09:35:11 PM
I am starting to sway more towards GZ than I have in the past.  I don't like their attorney and I don't like how this whole case has been portrayed thus far. I think that there have been lies told, but not just from the defense side. Starting with the pictures of Trayvon when he was a younger kid instead of recent photos, the girlfriend who never called 911 or Trayvon's parents when she lost contact with him, knowing that he was being followed etc
I can't wait till we get more info on all of this.


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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 23, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Earlier on in the case, Trayvon's mom made it very clear she was upset because George Zimmerman didn't apologize for shooting her son.  She said when someone does wrong, (not exact quote) they should apologize.  George Zimmerman apologized to his parents in court, but she wouldn't even look at him.  And I guess now the apology wasn't good enough.  Nothing will bring back her son.  It's my belief that even if George had gotten down on bended knee and expressed his sorrow, it wouldn't have been good enough.  I think Trayvon's parents are under pressure not to cave in.  They are pressured by certain people, including Al Sharpton etal to keep the fires of hatred burning.  For Trayvon's parents to show anything short of disdain toward George Zimmerman would get them a rebuke behind doors.  Sort of like when Trayvon's mom said on Today's Show the shooting was an accident.  And then that got changed Trayvon was profiled and the meeting of her son and George was an accident.  


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/cerabino-george-zimmermans-public-apology-misses-mark-2321203.html
Cerabino: George Zimmerman's public apology misses mark

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11351669-zimmermans-attorney-apologizes-for-clients-apology-to-trayvon-martins-parents?lite
Zimmerman's attorney apologizes for client's apology to Trayvon Martin's parents

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/20/george_zimmerman_apo.html
George Zimmerman: Apologizes to Martin family, bond set

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-04-12/news/31332992_1_face-charges-second-degree-murder-justice-system
Trayvon Martin case: Slain teen’s mom, Sybrina Fulton, says killing was ‘an accident’



Muffers! Totally totally agree! Well said..


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 23, 2012, 09:36:30 PM
Cookie, I don't want to see any young man die.  I have two sons of my own.  What I want to see is the truth and in my opinion, there has been some things going on that muddies the truth.


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Post by: cookie on April 23, 2012, 09:41:09 PM
Cookie, I don't want to see any young man die.  I have two sons of my own.  What I want to see is the truth and in my opinion, there has been some things going on that muddies the truth.

Ditto on the 2 sons, me too..

Like you, I just want the truth ...And I do think that you are correct that the parents can't back down now even if they wanted to...


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 23, 2012, 09:58:50 PM


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George Zimmerman's Booking Photo/NYPost

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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 23, 2012, 10:18:19 PM
Muffy...a friend posted an article about Trayvon..what MSM and others don't want us to know
Dailycaller..com. 
I would bring it over but I am not real swift at doing articles especially from my iPad.  Could you see if you can locate it...it is a second twitter account that Trayvon had...maybe it has already been posted here.
Thanks
M~


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Post by: seahorse on April 24, 2012, 11:43:04 AM
He will be on walking on Eggshells around his wife  ::MonkeyHaHa::

A step out of line /one Beer, if the Wife gets angry  ::MonkeyMad:: he will be back in the
Slammer.  IMO

Wife said she is will Guad. from nursing school, in June, I thought she did nails, see, we cannot always believe what we hear and half of what we see. ::rhino::


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Post by: Amys Sister on April 24, 2012, 12:50:15 PM
If the man who I thought murdered my son tried to apologize to me at the bond hearing I too would feel it was disingenuous.

The night of the murder an investigator was present who felt strongly Zimmerman should be held and the murder fully investigated.  Zimmerman's daddy shows up and everything is dropped.  Trayvon's parents are given the runaround for over a month then finally have to make it public to get any type of attention and/or answers.  I see them only as parents who want answers to why their child is dead at the hands of another man.  Trayvon's mother was being honest in that she felt George accidentally murdered her boy, not with the intent to cold blooded kill him, but because he had himself all worked up chasing down and provoking someone he thought shouldn't be in his neighborhood (which is still at minimum manslaughter).  She was being honest and kept a fair perspective.  Then the media takes her level headedness and makes it something bad. 

The media reports which are clearly inflammatory and being written as to guide the minds of viewers toward divisiveness, are intentional efforts to confuse us and exploit our emotions.  Why else would the media ever give coverage to Al Sharpton?  I promise you, he doesn't speak for all black people.  Many of them think he's an idiot.

People are people, this case is complicated, but in the end it needs to go through the judicial process so it can be proven and the facts reviewed, not swept under the rug as was the original intention of the local police department.

Now, where's that monkey dodging tomatoes smilie?





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Post by: sharon on April 24, 2012, 12:51:27 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/24/2765225/george-zimmerman-on-his-own-lawyer.html#moreb

George Zimmerman “on his own” lawyer says

George Zimmerman will alternate from several locations in attempt to stay safe.
By Frances Robles
frobles@MiamiHerald.com

George Zimmerman spent his first 24 hours on bond “on his own” and in fear of his life, his attorney said in a television interview Monday night.

Zimmerman was released from jail early Monday wearing a bulletproof vest, defense attorney Mark O’Mara told CNN. He said authorities are not providing any security for him, so several locations have been arranged for him to “maintain his safety and security.”

“There’s been a lot of chatter about his release, and that’s concerning him and us,” O’Mara said. “He’s sort of on his own with his own protection, at this point.”

O’Mara said the security and housing were being paid by Zimmerman’s family. It’s unclear how much has been raised from websites set up to collect donations, he said. One site has about $800 and another a few thousand dollars, but he’s unclear if anyone has withdrawn any funds, he told CNN’s Anderson Cooper.

Zimmerman faces second-degree murder charges in the Feb. 26 shooting of unarmed Miami Gardens teenager Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman shot Trayvon in what he claims was an act of self defense.

It took six weeks before Zimmerman was arrested, and he now faces the possibility of life in prison. He posted $150,000 bond and is staying at undisclosed locations.

“George greatly appreciates your thoughts, and donations. We are working on obtaining an update directly from George very soon,” someone posted on Zimmerman’s website,TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com. “GZ hopes to be able to update the site in the next day or two, God willing.”

 ::snipping2::

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/24/2765225/george-zimmerman-on-his-own-lawyer.html#moreb#storylink=cpy


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Post by: labubske on April 24, 2012, 01:11:14 PM
If the man who I thought murdered my son tried to apologize to me at the bond hearing I too would feel it was disingenuous.

The night of the murder an investigator was present who felt strongly Zimmerman should be held and the murder fully investigated.  Zimmerman's daddy shows up and everything is dropped.  Trayvon's parents are given the runaround for over a month then finally have to make it public to get any type of attention and/or answers.  I see them only as parents who want answers to why their child is dead at the hands of another man.  Trayvon's mother was being honest in that she felt George accidentally murdered her boy, not with the intent to cold blooded kill him, but because he had himself all worked up chasing down and provoking someone he thought shouldn't be in his neighborhood (which is still at minimum manslaughter).  She was being honest and kept a fair perspective.  Then the media takes her level headedness and makes it something bad. 

The media reports which are clearly inflammatory and being written as to guide the minds of viewers toward divisiveness, are intentional efforts to confuse us and exploit our emotions.  Why else would the media ever give coverage to Al Sharpton?  I promise you, he doesn't speak for all black people.  Many of them think he's an idiot.

People are people, this case is complicated, but in the end it needs to go through the judicial process so it can be proven and the facts reviewed, not swept under the rug as was the original intention of the local police department.

Now, where's that monkey dodging tomatoes smilie?





I would think that I would still be angry if this happened to my child and though I would request an apology...I likely wouldn't accept it.  However, I do believe that George is remorseful and his apology is sincere...just my feeling (doesn't mean I'm right :))  We see so many times where we comment that there is no remorse at all...so, I don't feel that I can say that in this case.  Anyhow, just my two cents...and I had to say that I agree with the majority of what you said...so true that the media has made this case worse. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on April 24, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
Quote
I would think that I would still be angry if this happened to my child and though I would request an apology...I likely wouldn't accept it.  However, I do believe that George is remorseful and his apology is sincere...just my feeling (doesn't mean I'm right )  We see so many times where we comment that there is no remorse at all...so, I don't feel that I can say that in this case.  Anyhow, just my two cents...and I had to say that I agree with the majority of what you said...so true that the media has made this case worse.

Hi Labubske.  You could be right... George may really be remorseful.  Still, his websites and comments did not show that.  They were basically, "woe is me, I need money, my life has been changed forever".  Then, with the bond hearing nearing, he suddenly wants to apologize for what happened.  I personally doubt he would have ever apologized or shown remorse if he wasn't being held and investigated, but I could be wrong, too.   


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: can on April 24, 2012, 02:09:46 PM
If the man who I thought murdered my son tried to apologize to me at the bond hearing I too would feel it was disingenuous.

The night of the murder an investigator was present who felt strongly Zimmerman should be held and the murder fully investigated.  Zimmerman's daddy shows up and everything is dropped.  Trayvon's parents are given the runaround for over a month then finally have to make it public to get any type of attention and/or answers.  I see them only as parents who want answers to why their child is dead at the hands of another man.  Trayvon's mother was being honest in that she felt George accidentally murdered her boy, not with the intent to cold blooded kill him, but because he had himself all worked up chasing down and provoking someone he thought shouldn't be in his neighborhood (which is still at minimum manslaughter).  She was being honest and kept a fair perspective.  Then the media takes her level headedness and makes it something bad. 

The media reports which are clearly inflammatory and being written as to guide the minds of viewers toward divisiveness, are intentional efforts to confuse us and exploit our emotions.  Why else would the media ever give coverage to Al Sharpton?  I promise you, he doesn't speak for all black people.  Many of them think he's an idiot.

People are people, this case is complicated, but in the end it needs to go through the judicial process so it can be proven and the facts reviewed, not swept under the rug as was the original intention of the local police department.

Now, where's that monkey dodging tomatoes smilie?





I won't be tossing any tomatoes! 

As a Mother, I would find it very difficult to accept an apology, under the circumstances.
The apology came weeks after the event.
I believe it was scripted and self serving.
I would have difficulty accepting the fact that the man who shot my child saw him in the first instance as a suspicious person.  That alone would hurt and anger me. 
After he made the call to the police he chose to continue the pursuit when he could have stood back and waited for a police presence as the dispatcher suggested.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: can on April 24, 2012, 02:33:11 PM
oops...
didn't finish my post.

I would like to see Trayvon's parents extricate themselves from the likes of Sharpton.

I don't care if Trayvon had character flaws, he is gone and his Mother will likely never recover.

All my humble opinion. 






Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2012, 02:40:02 PM
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpps/news/zimmerman-lawyer-apology-timing-wrong-dpgonc-20120423-sv_19378053
(NewsCore) - George Zimmerman's attorney issued an apology Monday for the timing of his client's in-court expression of remorse to the family of Trayvon Martin.

Lawyer Mark O'Mara said he would not have allowed his client to take the stand at his bond hearing Friday had he known it would upset the family.
 ::snipping2::
O'Mara told "CBS This Morning" Monday that Zimmerman had asked Thursday for a private meeting to apologize but Martin's family rejected the idea.

Benjamin Crump, a lawyer for the Martin family, said at a press conference Thursday that requesting such a meeting a day before the bond hearing was "self-serving."

But O'Mara said he was unaware of Crump's statement.

"To be honest, had I known that -- maybe had I seen the press conference -- I'm not sure that we would have done it at the bond hearing, because the purpose of it truly was to get to the family and to respond directly to the family's request [for an apology]," O'Mara told CBS.

"Had I known or been told that that wasn't the time, it wouldn't have happened. So, I apologize for that."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-04-20/story/zimmerman-granted-150000-bail-apologizes-teens-family
 ::snipping2::
Asked why he waited so long to apologize, Zimmerman said he was told not to reach out to the family. He denied having changed his version of events during the investigation.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2012, 02:45:42 PM
I agree, it would seem unusual for a defendant to apologize at a bond hearing.  And this is why I think if it seemed carefully crafted, it was to also make certain George Zimmerman's own words weren't used against him.  JMHO

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/excerpts-from-george-zimmermans-apology-to-trayvon-martins-parents-prosecutors-questions/2012/04/20/gIQAN4bDWT_story.html

 ::snipping2::
In an unusual move, George Zimmerman took the witness stand Friday to apologize to the parents of Trayvon Martin for fatally shooting their 17-year-old son.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: sharon on April 24, 2012, 03:56:35 PM
Don't think I've seen this posted here yet. Apologies if this is redundant, or if I've not posted it correctly.

 ::justice2NJ::  ::justice2NJ::


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Post by: Amys Sister on April 24, 2012, 05:23:35 PM
Thank you, Sharon.  I had never read that.  It cements my belief that Trayvon was a good kid who was targeted and pursued by an overzealous neighborhood watch person.  It is what it is.  He was black but that doesn't mean he was a thug.



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Post by: Toler on April 24, 2012, 05:36:00 PM

Dershowitz: Zimmerman prosecutors should be investigated


Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz believes the prosecution team in the George Zimmerman case should be investigated to see if they committed a criminal act.
 
On the Glenn Beck radio program today, Professor Dershowitz said he does not believe the Florida prosecution team had sufficient evidence to charge George Zimmerman with second degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida. Unless there is additional evidence, Dershowitz believes the second degree murder charge is baseless. Dershowitz added that he does not see any justification for the prosecution to withhold evidence.
 
Furthermore, in an explosive charge, Dershowitz said he believes the Florida prosecution, may be guilty of committing an ethical violation, and potentially may have committed a criminal act by charging Zimmerman with second degree murder. If the prosecution had access to a photograph showing the bloodied head of Mr. Zimmerman, taken immediately after the incident on February 26, there was no basis for a second degree murder charge, according to Dershowitz. If it were proven that the prosecution had access to the photograph, and filed a second degree murder charge anyway, Dershowitz believes they may be guilty of subornation of perjury which is a very serious charge.  ::snipping2:: 


Continue reading on Examiner.com Dershowitz: Zimmerman prosecutors should be investigated - Manchester Independent | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/article/dershowitz-believes-zimmerman-prosecutor-may-have-committed-a-criminal-act#ixzz1szngNH2X


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2012, 08:39:53 PM
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/in-depth-debate-on-whether-the-sanford-city-commission-did-the-right-thing-rejecting-resignation
In Depth: Debate on whether the Sanford City Commission did the right thing rejecting resignation
April 24, 2012



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Post by: grace-land on April 24, 2012, 09:39:20 PM
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpps/news/zimmerman-fundraising-website-shut-down-dpgonc-km-20120424_19417204

Zimmerman Fundraising Website Shut Down
Updated: Tuesday, 24 Apr 2012, 8:27 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 24 Apr 2012, 8:27 PM EDT
 
(NewsCore) - A website set up for George Zimmerman to raise cash for his legal defense after he was accused of killing unarmed Florida teen Trayvon Martin has been shut down while his attorney tries to restructure the fund, FOXNews.com has learned.
 
TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com was launched April 10, as a digital soapbox for Zimmerman to give his side of the story, as well as a fundraising tool to solicit donations to his legal defense fund.
 
Zimmerman used the site, which took major credit cards, to communicate messages to his supporters. But his attorney, Mark O'Mara, said the site has been shut down as of Tuesday.
 
"I've started the process to properly authorize his legal fund," O'Mara said. "I do not want him to have any internet presence and that site has been taken down."
 ::snipping2::
A friend of Zimmerman helped launch the site, but several fake imitation websites and Twitter accounts have popped up in recent weeks. O'Mara said he is trying to clear the internet of fake sites and set up a defense fund that meets all legal requirements.
 
"I'm trying to scrub through all of them and take action to have them taken down," he told FOXNews.com. "We are currently going through the Division of Consumer Service for an authorized fund. We will likely put up another website for donations, but it will be done through my office."
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: cookie on April 24, 2012, 09:41:56 PM
Wonder if GZ collected any money from the website?


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Post by: grace-land on April 24, 2012, 10:56:52 PM
Wonder if GZ collected any money from the website?


Here's the information, cookie.

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O’Mara said the security and housing were being paid by Zimmerman’s family. It’s unclear how much has been raised from websites set up to collect donations, he said. One site has about $800 and another a few thousand dollars, but he’s unclear if anyone has withdrawn any funds, he told CNN’s Anderson Cooper. 

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/24/2765225/george-zimmerman-on-his-own-lawyer.html#storylink=cpy


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Post by: cookie on April 25, 2012, 09:00:34 AM
Thanks Grace -land....


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Post by: KittyMom on April 25, 2012, 11:58:42 AM
I agree, it would seem unusual for a defendant to apologize at a bond hearing.  And this is why I think if it seemed carefully crafted, it was to also make certain George Zimmerman's own words weren't used against him.  JMHO

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/excerpts-from-george-zimmermans-apology-to-trayvon-martins-parents-prosecutors-questions/2012/04/20/gIQAN4bDWT_story.html

 ::snipping2::
In an unusual move, George Zimmerman took the witness stand Friday to apologize to the parents of Trayvon Martin for fatally shooting their 17-year-old son.
 ::snipping2::
And given what we know of Crump & associates ability to manipulate the parents, the media, the internet, etc, I think GZ did the right thing.  There is no way the lawyers can twist his words for their agenda now.

What people fail to realize is that this has grown far beyond that neighborhood in Fl.  Its now about the big money to be made in courtrooms and political back allies.


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Post by: sunshine12 on April 25, 2012, 12:19:49 PM
I am starting to sway more towards GZ than I have in the past.  I don't like their attorney and I don't like how this whole case has been portrayed thus far. I think that there have been lies told, but not just from the defense side. Starting with the pictures of Trayvon when he was a younger kid instead of recent photos, the girlfriend who never called 911 or Trayvon's parents when she lost contact with him, knowing that he was being followed etc
I can't wait till we get more info on all of this.


i agree completely cookie!!!!


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Post by: Toler on April 25, 2012, 05:06:46 PM
George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting

A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009.
 
The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, Florida, George called the owner to complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law's dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again. An officer came to the house, county records show.
 
"Don't use pepper spray," he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. "It'll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter second for the dog to jump you," he said.
 
"Get a gun."
 
That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits. In early December, another source close to them told Reuters, the couple bought a pair of guns. George picked a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun, a popular, lightweight weapon.
 
By June 2011, Zimmerman's attention had shifted from a loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.
 
Few of his closest neighbors knew he carried a gun - until two months ago.
 
On February 26, George Zimmerman shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in what Zimmerman says was self-defense. The furor that ensued has consumed the country and prompted a re-examination of guns, race and self-defense laws enacted in nearly half the United States.
 
During the time Zimmerman was in hiding, his detractors defined him as a vigilante who had decided Martin was suspicious merely because he was black. After Zimmerman was finally arrested on a charge of second-degree murder more than six weeks after the shooting, prosecutors portrayed him as a violent and angry man who disregarded authority by pursuing the 17-year-old.
 
But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman's past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting.
 
Based on extensive interviews with relatives, friends, neighbors, schoolmates and co-workers of Zimmerman in two states, law enforcement officials, and reviews of court documents and police reports, the story sheds new light on the man at the center of one of the most controversial homicide cases in America.   ::snipping2:: 
 


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/george_zimmerman_prelude_to_shooting_KnrkzId9fbXMspvRx3Q4hJ#ixzz1t5Wp3Bkk


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Post by: MuffyBee on April 25, 2012, 05:32:32 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/25/dershowitz-trayvon-prosecutor-overreached-with-murder-charge/
Dershowitz: Prosecutor in Trayvon Martin case overreached with murder charge
By Greg Wilson
April 25, 2012

Legal legend Alan Dershowitz blasted the special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case, accusing her of hiding evidence favorable to defendant George Zimmerman and committing perjury.

“If I were this prosecutor, I’d be hiring a lawyer at this point,” Dershowitz said of Angela Cory, the Florida state attorney and special prosecutor who Gov. Rick Scott appointed to handle the case.

Dershowitz leveled his bombshell charges in an interview Wednesday with Fox News' Megyn Kelly. The Harvard law professor, noted for winning an acquittal of  Claus Von Bulow in the case that inspired the film “Reversal of Fortune,” said Cory overreached by charging Zimmerman with second-degree murder. And he said the affidavit she filed in support of the charges was illegal because it did not include evidence favorable to Zimmerman.
“This affidavit submitted by the prosecutor in the Florida case is a crime,” Dershowitz said. “It’s a crime.”
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ABC News recently aired a photo purportedly taken minutes after the shooting that shows a bloody wound on the back of Zimmerman’s head. That photo appears to support Zimmerman’s contention that he was being beaten by the teen when he shot him.

But Cory made no mention of Zimmerman’s wounds or photos that might substantiate them when announcing the charge on April 11. Dershowitz said she was obligated to include any and all pertinent evidence.

“If she in fact knew about ABC News’ pictures of the bloody head of Zimmerman and failed to include that in the affidavit, this affidavit is not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth,” Dershowitz said. “It’s a perjurious affidavit.”

Even worse, Dershowitz warned that by overcharging Zimmerman, Cory may have planted the seed for riots if he is acquitted, as Dershowitz predicted will happen.

“If there are riots, it will be the prosecutor’s fault because she overcharged, raised expectations,” Dershowitz said. “This prosecutor not only may have suborned perjury, she may be responsible, if there are going to be riots here, for raising expectations to unreasonable levels.”

He said it is quite possible Zimmerman was guilty of a lesser charge, but the affidavit does not support a second-degree murder charge.

“There’s nothing in this affidavit that suggests second-degree murder. The elements of second-degree murder aren’t here."

Dershowitz is not the first legal expert to question the second-degree murder charge. The Florida statute requires proof that the defendant acted in a manner that was “evincing a depraved mind.” Prominent Miami criminal defense attorney John Priovolos told The Associated Press the charge was a “huge overreach” and said Corey will be hard-pressed to show Zimmerman had the “ill will, spite, malice or hatred” needed to prove a “depraved mind.”
 ::snipping2::
When announcing the charge, Cory expressed confidence in her team’s case.

"We have to have a reasonable certainty of conviction before filing charges," Cory said.

But Dershowitz said Cory is the one who should be facing charges, arguing that her prosecution of the case has already taken a political turn.

“She was appointed to get Zimmerman,” Dershowitz said.
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Post by: sharon on April 25, 2012, 06:23:26 PM
Dershowitz is a great defense attorney - I'm not sure I always see things the same way he does, though  :shrug:


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303544604576429783247016492.html
Casey Anthony: The System Worked
Even if it is 'likely' or 'probable' that she committed the murder, she must be acquitted. The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
By ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ



http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/05/alan-dershowitz-says-prosecution-in-casey-anthony-trial-used-junk-science-to-try-to-convict-her/
Alan Dershowitz says prosecution in Casey Anthony trial used "junk science" to try to convict her


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Post by: Toler on April 26, 2012, 11:55:44 AM
Second Firing in False Zimmerman 911 Edit

There has been a second firing at NBC over the misleading edit of George Zimmerman's 911 call. A report published yesterday afternoon by the Miami Herald identifies reporter/producer Jeff Burnside as the individual responsible for the edits which appeared in an NBC6 news story on March 19th and again on March 20th.
 
Burnside's social media accounts show he was heavily involved in the Trayvon Martin story beginning on March 19th. The next day he interviewed one of Zimmerman's neighbors at the scene of the shooting. The story he wrote to accompany the interview (since corrected) is one of the two places the misleading edit appeared. In the original version Burnside quotes from the Zimmerman 911 call with a misleading ellipsis, "This guy looks like he’s up to no good…he looks black." On March 22nd Burnside posted this photo of himself interviewing Al Sharpton who was in Florida for a Trayvon Martin rally. He also attended a rally with Ben Jealous of the NAACP.
 
Burnside's story containing the misleading edit was picked up by MSNBC and a lightly revised version was published the next day, March 21st. The MSNBC version of the story has also been corrected but it was this story which caught the eye of a conservative blogger at Curses! Foiled Again!. The misleading edit he pointed out was picked up by Dan Riehl here at Breitbart News and within a few days edit-gate had become national news and an embarrassment to NBC brass.
 
Then, three weeks ago, NBC announced that, after an internal investigation, they had fired a Miami based producer responsible for the misleading edit which appeared on the Today Show. That individual still has not been identified but is not Jeff Burnside. Burnside apparently did not work on the Today Show and was only responsible for the (identical) edits that appeared at NBC6 and MSNBC.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/26/Second-Firing-in-False-Zimmerman-911-Edit


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Post by: Toler on April 26, 2012, 12:36:17 PM
Sybrina Fulton: 'I Can Wait A Year' For Justice

 ::snipping2:: 


Interview Highlights

On the police's treatment of Zimmerman:

"I feel, by him being arrested, that we are moving into the right direction. I certainly feel that he should have been arrested at the scene. But he was not; he was arrested some 44 days later. But I do think that it was justified that he be arrested."

On facing a lengthy trial process:

"If it takes me the rest of my life, I am dedicated and committed to getting justice. So, I can wait a year. If that's the process, the proper process that it has to take, I'm willing to wait for justice to be served."

On the role of race in the Martin case:

"I have said before that it's not about black and white. And as I look in the crowds when we're at the rallies and at the different church services and things like that, I notice that it's not just African-American people. It's not just black people that are there. There are Spanish people, there are white people, there are Mexican people, Cuban people — there are people from all across the globe. So, that indicates to me that it's not just about African-Americans."

On Zimmerman's apology at his bond hearing:

Fulton refers the question to Benjamin Crump, who says:

"It was such an inappropriate time to do that. It was requested by his attorney right before the bond hearing — could he have a private meeting to apologize. Well, he had almost 49 days to come forward. And then on the 50th day, he comes forth and says, 'I want to apologize.'

"Well, we think that's very insincere, when you think of all the opportunities he had to apologize.

"It seems you have an ulterior motive to say I'm sorry when I'm trying to ask the judge to let me out of jail.

"... We believe, had Trayvon Martin shot George Zimmerman and the shoe been on the other foot, that Trayvon Martin would not have been given a bond."

On Trayvon Martin inspiring activism:

"When we went into it, we went into it with a focus. And our focus was to get justice for Trayvon. It does help to see so many people that's supporting us ... Just to see support from other parents and other individuals that are concerned; it helps a lot."

On Mother's Day:

"My mother is still living, so of course I'm going to take care of my mother, and make sure that she has flowers and a gift, and just spend time with my mother. My kids usually spend time with me ...

"It probably will be a ... point in that day that I would of course think about Trayvon and what he's done for me in the past, and how I'm going to miss him in the future."  ::snipping2::

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/26/151377059/sybrina-fulton-i-can-wait-a-year-for-justice


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Post by: Toler on April 26, 2012, 01:17:19 PM
Trayvon Martin’s Parents To Host Civil Rights Rally In SouthLOS ANGELES (CBS) — A rally expected to draw prominent civil rights leaders is scheduled to take place at a Los Angeles church Thursday to mark the two-month anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death.
 
The rally starting at 5:30 p.m. at the West Los Angeles Church in Christ at 3045 Crenshaw Boulevard will be attended by the Martin family, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous, the Rev. Al Sharpton, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Bishop Charles Blake, who preaches at the church.

 Several celebrities are expected, including Stevie Wonder, Chaka Kahn, David Banner, Paul Rodriguez, radio host Big Boy and Magic Johnson.   ::snipping2:: 

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/trayvon-martins-parents-to-host-civil-rights-rally-in-south-la/
 


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Post by: cookie on April 26, 2012, 05:36:38 PM
Trayvon Martin’s Parents To Host Civil Rights Rally In SouthLOS ANGELES (CBS) — A rally expected to draw prominent civil rights leaders is scheduled to take place at a Los Angeles church Thursday to mark the two-month anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death.
 
The rally starting at 5:30 p.m. at the West Los Angeles Church in Christ at 3045 Crenshaw Boulevard will be attended by the Martin family, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous, the Rev. Al Sharpton, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Bishop Charles Blake, who preaches at the church.

 Several celebrities are expected, including Stevie Wonder, Chaka Kahn, David Banner, Paul Rodriguez, radio host Big Boy and Magic Johnson.   ::snipping2:: 

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/trayvon-martins-parents-to-host-civil-rights-rally-in-south-la/
 

A rally? Really? Why? To incite more unrest and division?
GZ was arrested as he should probably have been , as the family wanted..now we wait for all the facts to come in and we have a trial..what the family wanted..isn't it? Or is it?


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Post by: KittyMom on April 26, 2012, 05:41:52 PM
Trayvon Martin’s Parents To Host Civil Rights Rally In SouthLOS ANGELES (CBS) — A rally expected to draw prominent civil rights leaders is scheduled to take place at a Los Angeles church Thursday to mark the two-month anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death.
 
The rally starting at 5:30 p.m. at the West Los Angeles Church in Christ at 3045 Crenshaw Boulevard will be attended by the Martin family, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous, the Rev. Al Sharpton, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Bishop Charles Blake, who preaches at the church.

 Several celebrities are expected, including Stevie Wonder, Chaka Kahn, David Banner, Paul Rodriguez, radio host Big Boy and Magic Johnson.   ::snipping2:: 

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/trayvon-martins-parents-to-host-civil-rights-rally-in-south-la/
 

A rally? Really? Why? To incite more unrest and division?
GZ was arrested as he should probably have been , as the family wanted..now we wait for all the facts to come in and we have a trial..what the family wanted..isn't it? Or is it?

IMO, they've had a taste of the spotlight and like it. 


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Post by: cookie on April 26, 2012, 05:44:19 PM
Trayvon Martin’s Parents To Host Civil Rights Rally In SouthLOS ANGELES (CBS) — A rally expected to draw prominent civil rights leaders is scheduled to take place at a Los Angeles church Thursday to mark the two-month anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death.
 
The rally starting at 5:30 p.m. at the West Los Angeles Church in Christ at 3045 Crenshaw Boulevard will be attended by the Martin family, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous, the Rev. Al Sharpton, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Bishop Charles Blake, who preaches at the church.

 Several celebrities are expected, including Stevie Wonder, Chaka Kahn, David Banner, Paul Rodriguez, radio host Big Boy and Magic Johnson.   ::snipping2:: 

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/trayvon-martins-parents-to-host-civil-rights-rally-in-south-la/ ::rhino::
 

A rally? Really? Why? To incite more unrest and division?
GZ was arrested as he should probably have been , as the family wanted..now we wait for all the facts to come in and we have a trial..what the family wanted..isn't it? Or is it?

IMO, they've had a taste of the spotlight and like it. 

 ::rhino::


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Post by: Toler on April 26, 2012, 06:46:22 PM
Magic Johnson, Stevie Wonder Expected at LA Trayvon Martin Rally

 ::snipping2:: 


The rally comes as news broke that the man believed responsible for Martin’s death, George Zimmerman, has taken down a website devoted to helping raise money for his legal defense, a spokesman for his lawyer said Wednesday.

The website www.therealgeorgezimmerman.com was no longer functioning as of Tuesday, said James Woods, a spokesman for Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara.

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of the 17-year-old Martin in February. He has pleaded not guilty and is claiming self-defense.

O'Mara has hinted that he will ask Zimmerman to be declared indigent, which would allow taxpayers to pay for his legal bills.  ::snipping2:: 

http://topicfire.com/share/Trayvon-Martin-Rally-Set-for-Thursday-19747080.html


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Post by: alagary on April 26, 2012, 07:25:44 PM
Is there an internet site I have missed? Profitoffyourdeadkid.com? Anthonys Irwins Cummings Martins. Hurry,hurry ,hurry! Get the T-shirts. Want a free trip? Celebrity lawyers knock at your door? Rallies! Vigils! I'm sorry what's your kids name? Golden!


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Post by: Toler on April 26, 2012, 08:18:15 PM
Donations pour in to Trayvon Martin's killer

The lawyer for the neighborhood watch leader who fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida, said Thursday that his client has received about $200,000 from supporters.
 
Orlando lawyer Mark O'Mara told CNN's "AC360" that George Zimmerman told him Wednesday of the donations as they were trying to shut down his Internet presence to avoid concerns about possible impersonators.
 
"He asked me what to do with his PayPal accounts and I asked him what he was talking about," O'Mara told Anderson Cooper. "And he said those were the accounts that had the money from the website he had. And there was about 200, $204,000 that had come in to date."
 
O'Mara had said earlier this month that he believed Zimmerman had no money. "I think he's indigent for costs," he said, adding that Zimmerman's relatives had few assets.
 
Zimmerman, 28, was released Monday on $150,000 bail, 10% of which his family put up to secure his release. He is accused of second-degree murder in the February 26 death of Martin, who was African-American. Critics have accused him of racially profiling Martin and unjustly killing him. He has said he shot in self-defense.
 
Asked whether knowledge of the money might have made a difference to Judge Kenneth Lester Jr., who presided at Zimmerman's bond hearing, O'Mara said, "It might have."
 
O'Mara continued, "I'm certainly going to disclose it to the court tomorrow -- coincidentally, we have a hearing."
 
He said he was prepared to "deal with any fallout," but predicted Lester would not feel misled. "I told him what I knew at the time, which was exactly what I was aware of."
 
The money has been placed in a secure account since O'Mara learned about it, he said, adding, "Nobody's touching it until we figure out how to handle it."  ::snipping2::

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/26/justice/florida-zimmerman-money/


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Post by: cookie on April 26, 2012, 09:34:05 PM
Is there an internet site I have missed? Profitoffyourdeadkid.com? Anthonys Irwins Cummings Martins. Hurry,hurry ,hurry! Get the T-shirts. Want a free trip? Celebrity lawyers knock at your door? Rallies! Vigils! I'm sorry what's your kids name? Golden!


Priceless Alagary! Just priceless! Post of the month!


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Post by: labubske on April 26, 2012, 09:42:23 PM
Trayvon Martin’s Parents To Host Civil Rights Rally In SouthLOS ANGELES (CBS) — A rally expected to draw prominent civil rights leaders is scheduled to take place at a Los Angeles church Thursday to mark the two-month anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death.
 
The rally starting at 5:30 p.m. at the West Los Angeles Church in Christ at 3045 Crenshaw Boulevard will be attended by the Martin family, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous, the Rev. Al Sharpton, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Bishop Charles Blake, who preaches at the church.

 Several celebrities are expected, including Stevie Wonder, Chaka Kahn, David Banner, Paul Rodriguez, radio host Big Boy and Magic Johnson.   ::snipping2:: 

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/trayvon-martins-parents-to-host-civil-rights-rally-in-south-la/ ::rhino::
 

A rally? Really? Why? To incite more unrest and division?
GZ was arrested as he should probably have been , as the family wanted..now we wait for all the facts to come in and we have a trial..what the family wanted..isn't it? Or is it?

IMO, they've had a taste of the spotlight and like it. 

 ::rhino::


Absolutely...why is there a need for a civil rights rally...really?  Where is the racism?  Oh that's right...it's them.


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Post by: Toler on April 26, 2012, 09:45:26 PM
George Zimmerman Bail Reverses All Hard Work Done for Trayvon Martin

What do you do when your municipality is holding arguably the most-hated and notorious killer on earth?  You grant him bail. That's exactly what Judge Kenneth Lester did for George Zimmerman, the man who killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

As a condition of his bail, Zimmerman is not allowed to have possession of firearms, drink alcohol, or use drugs.  He must also maintain a curfew.  How nice.

If the city of Sanford wanted to embarrass itself any further, it just did.

The justice system that has obtained international prominence as one of the most inept, irresponsible, racist and unprofessional organizations in the country has set a new standard for judicial indecency.  The family of Trayvon Martin worked hard to get Zimmerman arrested because he was a flight risk, now he's a flight risk all over again.

Granting bail for George Zimmerman, for the most part, is a slap in the face to those around the world who worked for his arrest.  It simply says that without regard to the will of the people, those possessing the power of the state have no obligation to answer to anyone or even share whatever information they are using to come to their illogical decisions.

Granting bail to Zimmerman renders all the rallies, petitions and hard work done around the world to bring him to justice meaningless.  It effectively communicates defiance within the Sanford judicial system to say, "We don't care what you think.  We're going to do whatever we choose to do."  ::snipping2::

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins/george-zimmerman-bail_b_1440870.html


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Post by: grace-land on April 26, 2012, 09:48:58 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/26/george_zimmerman_att.html

George Zimmerman: Attorney may not use Stand Your Ground defense
By Scott McDonnell, Reporter
Last Updated: Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 07:05PM

ORLANDO --
The Stand Your Ground Statute.
 
It's a law that has been brought front and center through the Trayvon Martin case.
 
But George Zimmerman's attorney says he hasn't decided whether or not he will use the Stand your ground defense.
 
"It's really too early to say until we see the facts, once we see the evidence, and we can come up with an idea as to what defense applies to it. Stand your ground, traditional self defense, We just don't know yet," said Mark O'Mara.
 ::snipping2::
"It's already brought it to the forefront, and there has already been those conversations and discussions, I don't know yet if it applies to my case because the facts who have to support, there would have to have been an opportunity under that statute," said O'Mara.
 ::snipping2::
Elizabeth Megale, legal Expert and Professor at the Barry University School of Law says it's possible Zimmerman's case may never see a trial if the Stand Your Ground defense statute is applied.
 
Zimmerman's attorney would have to file a motion to dismiss the charges using the Stand Your Ground defense.
 
"At that hearing Mr. Zimmerman would have to establish by a preponderance of the evidence, which is a relatively low legal standard that he was in reasonable fear for his life," said Megale.
 
Megale says any number of items could be used as evidence at that hearing, like 911 calls, witnesses, even George Zimmerman himself.
 
"At that time if the court is satisfied that he was in reasonable fear and grant immunity at that time the case may never see a jury," said Megale.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: grace-land on April 26, 2012, 09:59:22 PM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/teen-charged-with-hate-crime-says-he-was-mad-about-trayvon-martin/

Teen Charged With Hate Crime, Says He Was Mad About Trayvon Martin
April 26, 2012 6:32 AM

OAK PARK, Ill. (CBS) — A teen charged with a hate crime in Oak Park says he attacked and beat up his victim because he was angry about the Trayvon Martin case.
 
Alton Hayes III, 18, of Oak Park, is charged with attempted robbery and aggravated battery. He is also charged with a hate crime.
 
Hayes and his 15-year-old alleged accomplice are African-American, while the victim is white.
 
The Oak Park-River Forest Patch reports around 1 a.m. April 17, Hayes and the Chicago boy walked up behind the 19-year-old victim in the 1600 block of North Kenilworth Avenue in Oak Park.
 
Police say Hayes and his accomplice and pinned the victim’s arms to his side, police said. Hayes then picked up a large tree branch, pointed it at the man and said, “Empty your pockets, white boy,” police said.
 
The two allegedly rifled through the victim’s pockets, then threw him to the ground and punched him “numerous times” in the head and back before running away, police said.
 ::snipping2::



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Post by: MuffyBee on April 26, 2012, 10:11:48 PM
George Zimmerman Bail Reverses All Hard Work Done for Trayvon Martin

What do you do when your municipality is holding arguably the most-hated and notorious killer on earth?  You grant him bail. That's exactly what Judge Kenneth Lester did for George Zimmerman, the man who killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

As a condition of his bail, Zimmerman is not allowed to have possession of firearms, drink alcohol, or use drugs.  He must also maintain a curfew.  How nice.

If the city of Sanford wanted to embarrass itself any further, it just did.

The justice system that has obtained international prominence as one of the most inept, irresponsible, racist and unprofessional organizations in the country has set a new standard for judicial indecency.  The family of Trayvon Martin worked hard to get Zimmerman arrested because he was a flight risk, now he's a flight risk all over again.

Granting bail for George Zimmerman, for the most part, is a slap in the face to those around the world who worked for his arrest.  It simply says that without regard to the will of the people, those possessing the power of the state have no obligation to answer to anyone or even share whatever information they are using to come to their illogical decisions.

Granting bail to Zimmerman renders all the rallies, petitions and hard work done around the world to bring him to justice meaningless.  It effectively communicates defiance within the Sanford judicial system to say, "We don't care what you think.  We're going to do whatever we choose to do."  ::snipping2::

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins/george-zimmerman-bail_b_n1440870.html

George Zimmerman turned himself in.  Bail is not considered punitive, but an assurance he will return for the trial.


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Post by: cookie on April 26, 2012, 10:15:58 PM
Trayvon Martin’s Parents To Host Civil Rights Rally In SouthLOS ANGELES (CBS) — A rally expected to draw prominent civil rights leaders is scheduled to take place at a Los Angeles church Thursday to mark the two-month anniversary of Trayvon Martin’s death.
 
The rally starting at 5:30 p.m. at the West Los Angeles Church in Christ at 3045 Crenshaw Boulevard will be attended by the Martin family, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous, the Rev. Al Sharpton, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Bishop Charles Blake, who preaches at the church.

 Several celebrities are expected, including Stevie Wonder, Chaka Kahn, David Banner, Paul Rodriguez, radio host Big Boy and Magic Johnson.   ::snipping2:: 

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/trayvon-martins-parents-to-host-civil-rights-rally-in-south-la/ ::rhino::
 

A rally? Really? Why? To incite more unrest and division?
GZ was arrested as he should probably have been , as the family wanted..now we wait for all the facts to come in and we have a trial..what the family wanted..isn't it? Or is it?

IMO, they've had a taste of the spotlight and like it. 

 ::rhino::


Absolutely...why is there a need for a civil rights rally...really?  Where is the racism?  Oh that's right...it's them.

 ::rhino::


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Post by: Toler on April 26, 2012, 10:29:58 PM
George Zimmerman Bail Reverses All Hard Work Done for Trayvon Martin

What do you do when your municipality is holding arguably the most-hated and notorious killer on earth?  You grant him bail. That's exactly what Judge Kenneth Lester did for George Zimmerman, the man who killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

As a condition of his bail, Zimmerman is not allowed to have possession of firearms, drink alcohol, or use drugs.  He must also maintain a curfew.  How nice.

If the city of Sanford wanted to embarrass itself any further, it just did.

The justice system that has obtained international prominence as one of the most inept, irresponsible, racist and unprofessional organizations in the country has set a new standard for judicial indecency.  The family of Trayvon Martin worked hard to get Zimmerman arrested because he was a flight risk, now he's a flight risk all over again.

Granting bail for George Zimmerman, for the most part, is a slap in the face to those around the world who worked for his arrest.  It simply says that without regard to the will of the people, those possessing the power of the state have no obligation to answer to anyone or even share whatever information they are using to come to their illogical decisions.

Granting bail to Zimmerman renders all the rallies, petitions and hard work done around the world to bring him to justice meaningless.  It effectively communicates defiance within the Sanford judicial system to say, "We don't care what you think.  We're going to do whatever we choose to do."  ::snipping2::

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins/george-zimmerman-bail_b_n1440870.html

George Zimmerman turned himself in.  Bail is not considered punitive, but an assurance he will return for the trial.

..and the author is a 'professor'!! He seems to advocate mob rule and has his own set of facts!


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Post by: grace-land on April 26, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins

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What do you do when your municipality is holding arguably the most-hated and notorious killer on earth?  You grant him bail. That's exactly what Judge Kenneth Lester did for George Zimmerman, the man who killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
 
As a condition of his bail, Zimmerman is not...
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George Zimmerman Bail Reverses All Hard Work Done for Trayvon Martin
27 Comments | Posted April 26, 2012 | 6:07 PM

What do you do when your municipality is holding arguably the most-hated and notorious killer on earth?  You grant him bail. That's exactly what Judge Kenneth Lester did for George Zimmerman, the man who killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
 
As a condition of his bail, Zimmerman is not...
 ::snipping2::

BBM

 ::MonkeyConfused::  Is this nut for real????  Really.  Has he not heard of Anthony Sowell, Nathan Bell, Billy Joe Harris, or ......Casey Anthony?  I really hate it when people fall for such obvious attempts to incite their emotions. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 27, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
From the hearing this morning, April 27, 2012

http://cfnews13.com/chat.html

9:16
 Christine Webb:
State has filed a motion for a gag order

9:17
 CFNews13Live:
Judge Lester says several motions have been filed. Gag order on Mark O'Mara being one of them. [via Twitter]

9:17
 Christine Webb:
State's concern is that there has been too much talking to the media

9:18
 Christine Webb:
Mark O'Mara speaking right now

9:18
 Christine Webb:
O'Mara "I am concerned that there is an extraordinary amount of discussions going on right now with other parties."

9:19
 Comment From Sara
O'Mara is making a good point and I sure hope the gag order, if approved, includes Crump, et al. !

9:19
 Christine Webb:
Judge now speaking saying both sides have done "lion's work"

9:19
 News 13:
We will disable reader comments during court proceedings so you can more easily follow the action in the courtroom.

9:19
 Christine Webb:
O'Mara said this case is the most significant media event in the country

Christine Webb:
O'Mara "I am concerned that there is an extraordinary amount of discussions going on right now with other parties."

9:19
Christine Webb:
Judge now speaking saying both sides have done "lion's work"

9:19
 News 13:
We will disable reader comments during court proceedings so you can more easily follow the action in the courtroom.

9:19
Christine Webb:
O'Mara said this case is the most significant media event in the country

9:20
O'Mara: "This is one of the most significant media events happening in country and maybe the world." [via Twitter]

9:20
Christine Webb:
Judge Lester -"I'm not going to entertain the motion for a gag order this time around."

9:20
Christine Webb:
No gag order is ruled by the judge

9:20
 CFNews13Live:
Judge Lester says no gag order against O'Mara. [via Twitter]

9:23
 Christine Webb:
Right now judge moving on. Next issue: some media outlets looking to have evidence unsealed

9:24
 News 13:
News 13 is not participating in these motions.

9:25
Christine Webb:
Judge: We're not going to put the media on the mailing list

9:28
 Christine Webb:
Issues of security will remain secret to the media

9:29
 Christine Webb:
Mark O'Mara now speaking regarding this issue

9:30
 Christine Webb:
O'Mara concerned about the release of some evidence

9:30
 CFNews13Live:
O'Mara says he is in a catch 22 when it comes to discovery. [via Twitter]

9:31
Christine Webb:
O'Mara says he's worried about witness statements being made public

9:32
Christine Webb:
State says they share the same concerns -- and says at some point the court will have to address this

9:34
Christine Webb:
Media lawyer citing Casey Anthony case regarding the release of evidence

9:35
Christine Webb:
Judge says he will take things on a case by case basis

9:36
Christine Webb:
Prosecutors argue 911 tapes should not have been released

9:37
Christine Webb:
O'Mara now talking about the $200,000 donations

9:38
CFNews13Live:
O'Mara telling Judge Lester about Zimmerman website. [via Twitter]

9:38
Christine Webb:
During the last hearing Zimmerman claimed to have no money

9:39
Christine Webb:
O'Mara: All Zimmerman websites are now down

9:40
CFNews13Live:
Some money used for living expenses for Zimmerman. Now all money is in a trust account O'Mara controls. [via Twitter]

9:41
Christine Webb:
State now speaking....asking the court to address it immediately...and that there is a change in circumstance

9:41
Christine Webb:
Judge wants to see who had control over the account

9:42
Christine Webb:
Judge is asking O'Mara to find out who was in charge of the account and give that to the state

9:42
Christine Webb:
Judge wants to know the history of donation account

9:42
Christine Webb:
O'Mara is speaking again

9:43
Christine Webb:
O'Mara tells the judge he plans to do what the judge suggested

9:44
Christine Webb:
Judge says he will not rule on this until he gets more information

9:45
Christine Webb:
O'Mara wants to protect those who have donated

9:45
Christine Webb:
State wants to address a matter...asks to approach the bench with Mark O'Mara

9:46
News 13:
Sidebar. Comments are now open.
9:46
Christine Webb:
What do you guys think of what's happened so far during the proceedings?

9:47
Christine Webb:
Sidebar looks like it is over

9:47
Comment From cam
I want to watch this live
9:47
Christine Webb:
@Cam -- it's live right now on News 13

9:47
News 13:
Sidebar over.

9:48
Christine Webb:
Judge and lawyers will talk about security for trial

9:49
Christine Webb:
After this--judge says discovery takes place...there may be motions filed, there may not

9:49
Christine Webb:
Judge is now going to see counsel in chambers...but the proceedings are over



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 27, 2012, 10:34:39 AM
Thank you grace-land.  ::bee::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 27, 2012, 10:55:09 AM
Thank you grace-land.  ::bee::

You're welcome, Mzzz Bee.   

It wasn't the best chat/post, but it gave some idea of the topics at the hearing.  Maybe a transcript will surface today. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 27, 2012, 11:04:23 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/27/justice/florida-zimmerman-money/

Judge delays decision on Zimmerman contributions
April 27, 2012 -- Updated 1433 GMT (2233 HKT)

CNN) -- George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of wrongly killing Trayvon Martin, will not immediately have to turn over donations to his website, a Florida judge said Friday.

Zimmerman collected about $204,000 in donations through the website, but did not disclose the contributions during his bond hearing last week, according to Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara.

Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda asked Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. to increase Zimmerman's $150,000 bond. But the judge said he would delay ruling on the request, in part because he does not know if he has the authority to do so.

Lester said he is also concerned about revealing the names of donors.

"I'm not going to make a snap decision," Lester said.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 27, 2012, 11:14:43 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/lawyer-disclose-200k-george-zimmerman-hearing-disc/nMj4f/

Updated: 10:45 a.m. Friday, April 27, 2012 | Posted: 9:18 a.m. Friday, April 27, 2012
Trayvon Martin Case: Judge considers adjusting George Zimmerman's bond amid $200K donation disclosure

 ::snipping2::
Of the donated money, O'Mara estimated that only about $5,000 was used from the website account to help pay for Zimmerman's bail.

Prosecutors requested that the judge revoke Zimmerman's bail for not disclosing how much money he had at the original bond hearing.

Martin's family attorney, Benjamin Crump, calls news that Zimmerman has raised about $200,000 on a website "a bombshell."

Crump said Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, were "offended" that Zimmerman failed to inform the court of the money.

Friday's hearing was initially scheduled to deal with several media organizations, including The Associated Press, asking the judge to unseal documents from Zimmerman's court file.

Lester said during the hearing that the media can file motions for release of certain evidence, but the issues of security will remain secret to the media. O'Mara told the judge he was worried about witness testimony being made public. Prosecutors argued that the 911 tapes should not have been made public.

Also during Friday's hearing, Lester also denied a gag order requested against O'Mara.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: seahorse on April 27, 2012, 12:07:38 PM

Think six figures: a little over $200,000. Speaking with CNN’s Anderson Cooper,


NationGeorge Zimmerman’s Website Raised $200,000, Lawyer Says
Donations have poured in for the man accused of killing Trayvon Martin.
By Erik Hayden | @Erik_Hayden | April 27, 2012

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/27/george-zimmermans-website-raised-200000-lawyer-says/#ixzz1tG0F5DEc


 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, said that even he wasn’t aware of the money until Wednesday, when he was trying to “shut down” his client’s “full internet presence.”

“[George Zimmerman] asked me what to do with his PayPal accounts,” O’Mara said. “And I asked him what he was talking about. And he said those are the accounts that had the money from the Web site he had and that there was about $200,000, $204,000 that had come in to date.”

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/27/george-zimmermans-website-raised-200000-lawyer-says/#ixzz1tFzrcpXI

ME:
 ::MonkeyEek::
The Attorney did not know about the Dough! :)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 27, 2012, 12:24:07 PM
Judge: Zimmerman Can Keep $200K in Website Donations For Now

SANFORD, Fla. -- George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of wrongly killing Trayvon Martin, will not immediately have to turn over donations to his website, a Florida judge said Friday.

Zimmerman collected about $204,000 in donations through the website, but did not disclose the contributions during his bond hearing last week, according to Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara.

Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda asked Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. to increase Zimmerman's $150,000 bond. But the judge said he would delay ruling on the request, in part because he does not know if he has the authority to do so.  ::snipping2:: 


http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-george-zimmerman,0,2142261.story


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 27, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
Statement From Mark O'Mara Regarding the Funds Raised by George Zimmerman's Website

I want to take a moment to clear up some of the confusion regarding the monies raised on Mr. Zimmerman’s website. My understanding is that there were three web sites which had PayPal accounts attached to them. One or two of them were run by friends of Mr. Zimmerman, and then there was the web site therealgeorgezimmerman.com , which George administered. Two accounts seem to have very little money in them, though I have not seen any records on those as they are not being administered by my client. Mr. Zimmerman’s former website and the PayPal attached to it raised approximately $200,000.00 over the period of time that it was up and running. Mr. Zimmerman was using this money, as mentioned on his website, for his ongoing living expenses and other necessary expenses based upon the charge and eventual arrest.
 
As I was ending any Internet presence George had, we removed any Facebook accounts, Twitter accounts and websites. As we shut down the web site entitled therealgeorgezimmerman.com my client asked what we should do about the outstanding fee monies in the PayPal account or that had been taken out of the PayPal account since its inception. George immediately gathered the funds that were in either his or his wife’s account, or the PayPal account, and has forwarded those funds to me presently. We are still awaiting a check from the PayPal company which takes several days.
 
I am also accomplishing a review of all of the monies in and expenses paid out of those accounts, so I will have that information by next week.
 
The large amount of money that has been raised to date for George’s defense, I believe, is a testament to the support for George as he goes through this most difficult time. Though the concept of a legal defense fund is quite unique, it serves a very valid purpose and gives an opportunity for people to show their support to Mr. Zimmerman.

http://gzlegalcase.com/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: sunshine12 on April 27, 2012, 12:53:13 PM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/teen-charged-with-hate-crime-says-he-was-mad-about-trayvon-martin/

Teen Charged With Hate Crime, Says He Was Mad About Trayvon Martin
April 26, 2012 6:32 AM

OAK PARK, Ill. (CBS) — A teen charged with a hate crime in Oak Park says he attacked and beat up his victim because he was angry about the Trayvon Martin case.
 
Alton Hayes III, 18, of Oak Park, is charged with attempted robbery and aggravated battery. He is also charged with a hate crime.
 
Hayes and his 15-year-old alleged accomplice are African-American, while the victim is white.
 
The Oak Park-River Forest Patch reports around 1 a.m. April 17, Hayes and the Chicago boy walked up behind the 19-year-old victim in the 1600 block of North Kenilworth Avenue in Oak Park.
 
Police say Hayes and his accomplice and pinned the victim’s arms to his side, police said. Hayes then picked up a large tree branch, pointed it at the man and said, “Empty your pockets, white boy,” police said.
 
The two allegedly rifled through the victim’s pockets, then threw him to the ground and punched him “numerous times” in the head and back before running away, police said.
 ::snipping2::



DISGUSTING. yet we wouldn't be able to organize a march or protest or civil rights rally about this without being labeled racists.  I'm sick of the double standards.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on April 27, 2012, 12:57:26 PM
George Zimmerman did not reveal he was sitting on $204,000.00 at the time of the bond hearing? 

He's despicable and a liar.  I'm sorry... I think this guy is a lowlife.

Really, who chases after a person you know to be a teenager while you're armed when you've been told not to? 

A lowlife.

JMO.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 27, 2012, 12:59:50 PM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/teen-charged-with-hate-crime-says-he-was-mad-about-trayvon-martin/

Teen Charged With Hate Crime, Says He Was Mad About Trayvon Martin
April 26, 2012 6:32 AM

OAK PARK, Ill. (CBS) — A teen charged with a hate crime in Oak Park says he attacked and beat up his victim because he was angry about the Trayvon Martin case.
 
Alton Hayes III, 18, of Oak Park, is charged with attempted robbery and aggravated battery. He is also charged with a hate crime.
 
Hayes and his 15-year-old alleged accomplice are African-American, while the victim is white.
 
The Oak Park-River Forest Patch reports around 1 a.m. April 17, Hayes and the Chicago boy walked up behind the 19-year-old victim in the 1600 block of North Kenilworth Avenue in Oak Park.
 
Police say Hayes and his accomplice and pinned the victim’s arms to his side, police said. Hayes then picked up a large tree branch, pointed it at the man and said, “Empty your pockets, white boy,” police said.
 
The two allegedly rifled through the victim’s pockets, then threw him to the ground and punched him “numerous times” in the head and back before running away, police said.
 ::snipping2::



DISGUSTING. yet we wouldn't be able to organize a march or protest or civil rights rally about this without being labeled racists.  I'm sick of the double standards.

Me too and it keeps racism alive.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on April 27, 2012, 01:02:39 PM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/26/teen-charged-with-hate-crime-says-he-was-mad-about-trayvon-martin/

Teen Charged With Hate Crime, Says He Was Mad About Trayvon Martin
April 26, 2012 6:32 AM

OAK PARK, Ill. (CBS) — A teen charged with a hate crime in Oak Park says he attacked and beat up his victim because he was angry about the Trayvon Martin case.
 
Alton Hayes III, 18, of Oak Park, is charged with attempted robbery and aggravated battery. He is also charged with a hate crime.
 
Hayes and his 15-year-old alleged accomplice are African-American, while the victim is white.
 
The Oak Park-River Forest Patch reports around 1 a.m. April 17, Hayes and the Chicago boy walked up behind the 19-year-old victim in the 1600 block of North Kenilworth Avenue in Oak Park.
 
Police say Hayes and his accomplice and pinned the victim’s arms to his side, police said. Hayes then picked up a large tree branch, pointed it at the man and said, “Empty your pockets, white boy,” police said.
 
The two allegedly rifled through the victim’s pockets, then threw him to the ground and punched him “numerous times” in the head and back before running away, police said.
 ::snipping2::



DISGUSTING. yet we wouldn't be able to organize a march or protest or civil rights rally about this without being labeled racists.  I'm sick of the double standards.

A violent POS looking for a reason to express his inner rage and darkness and the Trayvon Martin case becomes the excuse.  If it wasn't Trayvon's case it would have been something else.

This attack should be a hate crime, though, based on the fact that the offender stated it was race based.

Anyone can commit a race based hate crime, not just white folk.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 27, 2012, 01:32:47 PM
Questions remain about $200,000 in Zimmerman's PayPal accounts

They tried to portray themselves as indigent that they did not have any money," Trayvon family attorney Benjamin Crump told CNN.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said he has taken control of the money and was not aware of the donations during the April 20 bond hearing.

About $5,000 of the donor money was used to post Zimmerman's bond, O'Mara said.

At the bond hearing, Zimmerman had access to the funds and heard his wife say they had no savings.

O'Mara said he believed it was an oversight — not intentional deception — that his client didn't disclose the money during the bond hearing.

O'Mara said he found out about the money four days after the bond hearing when he asked his client to shut down his website. Zimmerman then asked him then what to do with all the PayPal donations.

O'Mara said there was about $150,000 left when he took control. The family also used the money on living expenses and on setting up somewhere secure for him to stay.

O'Mara said he did not foresee the judge increasing his client's bond because of the donations.

"150,000 dollars is a high bond," he said.

He said there was not one or two huge Internet donors but many people, some who gave hundreds of dollars.

He said he'd do everything in his power to keep their names private, including possibly risking a contempt ruling by keeping them secret if the judge orders him or Special Prosecutor Angela Corey to release them.

The money has since been deposited in trust accounts managed exclusively by O'Mara, he told Circuit Court Judge Kenneth Lester, Jr.

O'Mara asked the judge if he could disclose a donor list and information about who had authority over the accounts in a private meeting to avoid publicly exposing contributors to "ridicule and danger."   ::snipping2:: 

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-27/news/os-george-zimmerman-media-hearing-20120427_1_special-prosecutor-angela-corey-media-attorneys-trial-lawyer


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 27, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
LA Rally Remembers Trayvon Martin, Others

A rally drew prominent civil rights leaders to a Los Angeles church on Thursday to mark the two-month anniversary of Trayvon Martin's death.

The rally started around 5:30 p.m. at the West Angeles Church of God in Christ at 3045 Crenshaw Boulevard, and was attended by the Martin family, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous, the Rev. Al Sharpton, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Bishop Charles Blake, who preaches at the church.

Several celebrities, including Stevie Wonder, Chaka Kahn, David Banner, Paul Rodriguez, radio host Big Boy and Magic Johnson, also attended.

“This is an issue that we need to keep in the forefront of America,” said Leon Jenkins, the president of Los Angeles NAACP. “We need to not stereotype. We need to make sure that this does not happen again."

Widening its scope, the rally focused on other controversial shooting deaths, some of which happened in Los Angeles.

The rally remembered Oscar Grant, who was fatally shot to by a former BART officer in 2008 (an earlier version of this article incorrectly stated that Grant was beaten to death) ; Earl Anthony Dunn, a 32-year-old U.S. postal worker from Compton, who was killed in Boyle Heights March 7, 2012, after an unlicensed driver struck him; and Kendrec McDade, 19, whose shooting March 24 by Pasadena police drew parallels to the Martin shooting.  ::snipping2:: 


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47192288


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on April 27, 2012, 02:00:12 PM
$50,000 for living expenses and to hide?  It's only been a month.

Must be in a penthouse somewhere.

Murder somebody, mislead the judge into thinking you're indigent, and walk away with a cool couple hundred thousand. 

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: sunshine12 on April 27, 2012, 03:19:09 PM
$50,000 for living expenses and to hide?  It's only been a month.

Must be in a penthouse somewhere.

Murder somebody, mislead the judge into thinking you're indigent, and walk away with a cool couple hundred thousand. 

 ::MonkeyEek::

he might be paying for private security out of that. i doubt he's living in a penthouse


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 27, 2012, 03:26:58 PM
$50,000 for living expenses and to hide?  It's only been a month.

Must be in a penthouse somewhere.

Murder somebody, mislead the judge into thinking you're indigent, and walk away with a cool couple hundred thousand. 

 ::MonkeyEek::

he might be paying for private security out of that. i doubt he's living in a penthouse

And the rent and food and his wife's tuition to nursing school..?  It costs Money to exist as we all know...his regular bills keep coming in etc and he is not able to work..though it is from his own actions, his wife had nothing to do with it and still has to live...jmo

Besides, he is not the only one collecting money for themselves from this tradegy. IMO...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 27, 2012, 03:43:45 PM
$50,000 for living expenses and to hide?  It's only been a month.

Must be in a penthouse somewhere.

Murder somebody, mislead the judge into thinking you're indigent, and walk away with a cool couple hundred thousand. 

 ::MonkeyEek::

he might be paying for private security out of that. i doubt he's living in a penthouse

And the rent and food and his wife's tuition to nursing school..?  It costs Money to exist as we all know...his regular bills keep coming in etc and he is not able to work..though it is from his own actions, his wife had nothing to do with it and still has to live...jmo

Besides, he is not the only one collecting money for themselves from this tradegy. IMO...

I agree Cookie.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on April 27, 2012, 04:28:45 PM
George Zimmerman did not reveal he was sitting on $204,000.00 at the time of the bond hearing? 

He's despicable and a liar.  I'm sorry... I think this guy is a lowlife.

Really, who chases after a person you know to be a teenager while you're armed when you've been told not to? 

A lowlife.

JMO.
Respectfully, as I understand it, we have no proof that he chased after anyone when told to stop.  Until the FACTS are made clear in a court of law it all boils down to "he said/they and their high priced attys and attention-seeking activists said'.  While many feel free to call this man names at this point, how would they feel about anyone calling the other party involved names?  If its okay for one side it better be okay for both otherwise its nothing but a double standard and detrimental to true justice.  IMO


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 27, 2012, 04:35:25 PM
George Zimmerman did not reveal he was sitting on $204,000.00 at the time of the bond hearing? 

He's despicable and a liar.  I'm sorry... I think this guy is a lowlife.

Really, who chases after a person you know to be a teenager while you're armed when you've been told not to? 

A lowlife.

JMO.
Respectfully, as I understand it, we have no proof that he chased after anyone when told to stop.  Until the FACTS are made clear in a court of law it all boils down to "he said/they and their high priced attys and attention-seeking activists said'.  While many feel free to call this man names at this point, how would they feel about anyone calling the other party involved names?  If its okay for one side it better be okay for both otherwise its nothing but a double standard and detrimental to true justice.  IMO

Well said KittyMom.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 27, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/27/justice/florida-zimmerman-money/?hpt=us_c2
Judge delays decision on Zimmerman contributions
April 27, 2012

(CNN) -- George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of wrongly killing Trayvon Martin, will not immediately have to turn over donations made to his website, a Florida judge said Friday.

Zimmerman collected about $204,000 in donations through the website, but did not disclose the contributions during his bond hearing last week, according to his attorney, Mark O'Mara. Prosecutors had asked for a bond of $1 million, but Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. made it $150,000 after Zimmerman's family testified they did not have the resources necessary to meet the higher level.

Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda on Friday asked Lester to increase the bond in light of the donations. But the judge said he would delay ruling on the request, in part because he does not know if he has authority to say how the money can be used.
 ::snipping2::
Zimmerman, 28, was released Monday on $150,000 bail, 10% of which was put up to secure his release while he awaits trial on a second-degree murder charge in Martin's February 26 death.

About $5,000 from the website contribution was used in making bond, O'Mara said. The rest came from a loan secured by a family home.

Although Zimmerman spent some of the contributions on living expenses, about $150,000 remains, O'Mara said Friday. O'Mara said he has put the money into a trust he controls until a final decision is made about its use.

Lester asked for additional information about the accounts but did not indicate when he would rule.

"I'm not going to make a snap decision," the judge said.

Also during Friday's hearing, Lester declined to consider a gag order requested by prosecutors, saying it was premature and that none of the attorneys in the case had said anything to concern him so far. CNN was among the media organizations opposing the motion.
 ::snipping2::
 Video at Link



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 27, 2012, 07:14:18 PM
If there are big buckets of cash handed to the Martin family, where is the accountability? 
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/27/justice/florida-zimmerman-money/?hpt=us_c2
"The attorney also said the Martin family has raised less than $100,000 in fund-raising efforts to date, and that the money collected will go toward the Trayvon Martin Foundation."

 As far as the question asked by Al Sharpton, "who is financing Zimmerman", does this mean anyone that donates to George Zimmerman could be threatened?  In my previous post, George Zimmerman's attorney O'Mara does say he's concerned about those that donated to the fund. 

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/27/justice/florida-zimmerman-money/?hpt=us_c2  Lester and O'Mara both said they are concerned about releasing the names of donors to Zimmerman, who has faced threats since the case began making national headlines in March."
"My fear is they may well be targeted for reprisals or animosities or whatever," O'Mara told reporters after the hearing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tanya-young-williams/trayvon-martin-rally-la_b_1458052.html
Red Carpet Treatment for Martin Family As Celebrities, Activists and Supporters Pack Prestigious L.A. Church
April 27, 2012

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The Trayvon Martin family formally launched the Justice for Trayvon Martin Foundation on the stage of one of the nation's most prestigious churches -- The West Angeles Church of God in Christ. The night also marked the two month anniversary of the tragic killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's death, at the hands of 28-year-old, self-appointed, community watchman George Zimmerman. For the first time, the advisors of Tracy Martin and Sabrina Fulton, the parents of Trayvon Martin, outlined the purpose for the newly established foundation on behalf of Trayvon. There had been three other rallies held in Los Angeles over the past two months wherein demonstrates marched and chanted for George Zimmerman's arrest.
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The NAACP, National Action Network, Empowerment Movement and Rainbow Push Coalition co-sponsored the event and stated their support for the Justice for Trayvon Martin Foundation's mission. The mission of the foundation is for:

    Advocation for crime victims and their families of senseless crimes

    Educating young people on conflict resolution techniques

    Increasing public awareness against all forms of profiling

    Enacting Trayvon Martin legislation to prevent the inappropriate application of "stand your ground" principles

Reverend Al Sharpton, founder of the National Action Network and host of MSNBC's Politics Nation was the first speaker for the evening
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harpton briefly talked of the foundation's goals and explained that a long-term commitment is needed to make effective changes to "stand your ground" laws. He also was responsible for asking the audience, the VIPs sitting on the stage, and the clergy assembled, for donations that would go directly to the Justice for Trayvon Martin Foundation.

The Nation of Islam gave $5,000, a couple of organizations gave $500, scores of people gave $100 and then the audience walked around the church to put their donations into large buckets. immediately following the collection of monies, Reverend Sharpton handed the filled buckets to the Martin family. He explained that all monies raised would be go to initiatives specifically outlined in the foundation's mission statement. He made it very clear that no money would go to the travel or personal expenses of the family.
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Reverend Jackson, a slowed down version of his younger self, asked the question, "who is financing Zimmerman?" Jackson stated that CNN reported that the unemployed Zimmerman has over $200,000 in his account.

This information brought jeers from the crowd. Although he illustrated through audience participation, that most African-Americans in attendance knew someone who has been profiled, his message was one of inclusion. He said, "we have to stop all of the killing, of all of the people, all of the time." He took his seat to a standing ovation with the saying for which he is most famous: "Keep Hope Alive."
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 27, 2012, 07:26:46 PM
George Zimmerman did not reveal he was sitting on $204,000.00 at the time of the bond hearing? 

He's despicable and a liar.  I'm sorry... I think this guy is a lowlife.

Really, who chases after a person you know to be a teenager while you're armed when you've been told not to? 

A lowlife.

JMO.
Respectfully, as I understand it, we have no proof that he chased after anyone when told to stop.  Until the FACTS are made clear in a court of law it all boils down to "he said/they and their high priced attys and attention-seeking activists said'.  While many feel free to call this man names at this point, how would they feel about anyone calling the other party involved names?  If its okay for one side it better be okay for both otherwise its nothing but a double standard and detrimental to true justice.  IMO

Well said KittyMom.
::rhino::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 27, 2012, 07:32:05 PM
After Zimmerman's website raises more than $200,000, prosecution asks judge to raise bond

 ::snipping2:: Martin's family was distressed to hear Zimmerman had raised so much money, considering the bond was set by the judge based on his family's limited wealth, their attorney said.

"They tried to portray themselves as indigent that they did not have any money," Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump said, according to CNN.

"We think that the court should revoke his bond immediately and he should be held accountable for misleading the court," he added.

At the bond hearing last week, Zimmerman's wife told the court she did not know how much money the website had collected in donations, adding that her brother-in-law helped set it up. She said the family is “trying to scrape up anything that we possibly can.”

According to CNN, O'Mara said Zimmerman's defense costs could reach $1 million.  ::snipping2::

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/27/11427416-after-zimmermans-website-raises-more-than-200000-prosecution-asks-judge-to-raise-bond?ocid=ansmsnbc11


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 27, 2012, 07:40:07 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/fl-trayvon-martin-uncertainty-20120427,0,7025192.story
Trayvon Martin's friends frustrated over potentially long wait for trial
April 27, 2012

Those who knew South Florida teenager Trayvon Martin say it was an agonizing wait between the time of his shooting and George Zimmerman's arrest.

Now comes the prospect of waiting until at least next year to learn whether Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot Trayvon, is convicted or acquitted of second-degree murder.

It's common for slaying cases to carry on in the courts for years. But the likelihood of waiting until 2013 surprised many of Trayvon's friends and acquaintances, who grew accustomed to the frenetic pace of developments in the killing.

In back-to-back fashion during the past month, a national audience saw live televised coverage of the announcement of Zimmerman's arrest, his public appearance in court and the in-court apology he made to Trayvon's parents "for the loss of your son."

Those who knew Trayvon argue Zimmerman's trial should be held now, while details of the killing are fresh in everyone's minds. They say waiting a long period raises the risk of memories blurring and of an unjust verdict.

"Tomorrow is not promised. You want justice done now," said Carter Eve, Trayvon's former football coach in Miami Gardens. "It leaves you in limbo. It leaves you wondering what is going to be going on during this whole time."

G. Vincent Lewis, an associate pastor at Trayvon's family church in Miami Gardens, said he wants a resolution in the case "hopefully sooner than later" without compromising legal fairness.
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Though a plea agreement would eliminate the need for a trial, Zimmerman's lawyer foresees one being held, perhaps next year. In a recent ABC News interview, the lawyer,Mark O'Mara, said his client may not be seen in public for a long time -- until he testifies at his trial -- because of death threats he's received.

Lewis, an associate pastor at Antioch Missionary Baptist Church, is among those who figured Zimmerman would invoke his constitutional right to a speedy trial, which would require that his trial be held within 175 days of his arrest, or by around October.

Any more of an extension would be "too long for the grieving parents and to the people," said Lewis. "I just don't think it would take a year to have a fair trial. It just shouldn't take that long."

But Zimmerman likely will waive having a speedy trial to gain time to prepare his defense, legal experts say. Zimmerman, who has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder, could face life in prison if convicted.

"I would expect he would waive time," said Kenneth Nunn, a law professor at the University of Florida. "It's a serious case, and you really don't want to rush things for what's at stake."
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According to Trayvon's family, the national outcry from the controversial shooting contributed to authorities taking a fresh look at the killing.

Angela Corey, a special prosecutor assigned by Gov. Rick Scott, announced Zimmerman's arrest in mid-April on the charge of second-degree murder. The day after Zimmerman's arrest, his lawyer told ABC News it would be "extraordinarily difficult" for his client to receive a fair trial if it were held immediately.

"I'm hoping things will calm down," O'Mara said at the time. "I'm hoping the community truly will let us do our job, both the prosecutor and me, to try and get this case tried fairly and only in front of the jury, not on TV or the streets."

Delaying the trial could be advantageous for lawyers on both sides of the case, Nunn said. Lawyers would seize the opportunity to make sure they line up "every possible person who may have heard or seen anything under subpoena," he said.

Zimmerman has since been freed from jail on $150,000 bail and gone into hiding. He has waived his appearance at an upcoming arraignment in May, enabling him to stay underground.

James Robinson, also a former football coach of Trayvon's, worries there will be a lull in the case. He said he wants Trayvon's killing to remain in the headlines during that period.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 27, 2012, 08:15:48 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/4/26/attorney_zimmerman_h.html

George Zimmerman: Judge wants more info on $200,000 raised online
Last Updated: Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 05:18PM

SANFORD --
Three parties were on hand for a hearing in the George Zimmerman case at the Seminole County courthouse.
 
A lawyer for several media companies, Scott Ponce, was on hand at courtroom 5d, along with Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara, and Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda.
 
The hearing originally set to hear arguments that the public should be granted access to court documents, records and evidence, was overshadowed by George Zimmerman's now bulging bank account.
 
George Zimmerman's lawyer revealed new information about his client's finances, particularly more than $200,000 raised on Zimmerman's website.
 
At a brief court hearing Friday morning, Judge Kenneth Lester told defense attorney Mark O'Mara he wants more details about those online donations before making a ruling.
 
"Find out the genesis of the account, find how this account came to come into existence, who is in charge of the account," said Judge Kenneth Lester on Friday.
 
Prosecutor Berne De La Rionda wanted Judge Lester to revisit Zimmerman's bond after it was discovered more than $200,000 worth of donations had been given to the now defunct website, therealgeorgezimmerman.com.
 
His attorney Mark O'Mara said he shut it down and has set up a new website for his client to solicit donations.
 
"GZLegalcase.com, that is the only website that is official, that I'm handling," said Mark O'Mara, lawyer for George Zimmerman.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: sunshine12 on April 27, 2012, 08:18:20 PM
George Zimmerman did not reveal he was sitting on $204,000.00 at the time of the bond hearing? 

He's despicable and a liar.  I'm sorry... I think this guy is a lowlife.

Really, who chases after a person you know to be a teenager while you're armed when you've been told not to? 

A lowlife.

JMO.
Respectfully, as I understand it, we have no proof that he chased after anyone when told to stop.  Until the FACTS are made clear in a court of law it all boils down to "he said/they and their high priced attys and attention-seeking activists said'.  While many feel free to call this man names at this point, how would they feel about anyone calling the other party involved names?  If its okay for one side it better be okay for both otherwise its nothing but a double standard and detrimental to true justice.  IMO

Well said KittyMom.
::rhino::


thank you KittyMom for stating so eloquently something that I cannot.  For all we know, it could have been Zimmerman screaming out and crying for help on the 9-1-1 tape and the holes in the girlfriends story are enormous. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: cookie on April 27, 2012, 08:23:11 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/fl-trayvon-martin-uncertainty-20120427,0,7025192.story
Trayvon Martin's friends frustrated over potentially long wait for trial
April 27, 2012

Those who knew South Florida teenager Trayvon Martin say it was an agonizing wait between the time of his shooting and George Zimmerman's arrest.

Now comes the prospect of waiting until at least next year to learn whether Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot Trayvon, is convicted or acquitted of second-degree murder.

It's common for slaying cases to carry on in the courts for years. But the likelihood of waiting until 2013 surprised many of Trayvon's friends and acquaintances, who grew accustomed to the frenetic pace of developments in the killing.

In back-to-back fashion during the past month, a national audience saw live televised coverage of the announcement of Zimmerman's arrest, his public appearance in court and the in-court apology he made to Trayvon's parents "for the loss of your son."

Those who knew Trayvon argue Zimmerman's trial should be held now, while details of the killing are fresh in everyone's minds. They say waiting a long period raises the risk of memories blurring and of an unjust verdict.

"Tomorrow is not promised. You want justice done now," said Carter Eve, Trayvon's former football coach in Miami Gardens. "It leaves you in limbo. It leaves you wondering what is going to be going on during this whole time."

G. Vincent Lewis, an associate pastor at Trayvon's family church in Miami Gardens, said he wants a resolution in the case "hopefully sooner than later" without compromising legal fairness.
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Though a plea agreement would eliminate the need for a trial, Zimmerman's lawyer foresees one being held, perhaps next year. In a recent ABC News interview, the lawyer,Mark O'Mara, said his client may not be seen in public for a long time -- until he testifies at his trial -- because of death threats he's received.

Lewis, an associate pastor at Antioch Missionary Baptist Church, is among those who figured Zimmerman would invoke his constitutional right to a speedy trial, which would require that his trial be held within 175 days of his arrest, or by around October.

Any more of an extension would be "too long for the grieving parents and to the people," said Lewis. "I just don't think it would take a year to have a fair trial. It just shouldn't take that long."

But Zimmerman likely will waive having a speedy trial to gain time to prepare his defense, legal experts say. Zimmerman, who has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder, could face life in prison if convicted.

"I would expect he would waive time," said Kenneth Nunn, a law professor at the University of Florida. "It's a serious case, and you really don't want to rush things for what's at stake."
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According to Trayvon's family, the national outcry from the controversial shooting contributed to authorities taking a fresh look at the killing.

Angela Corey, a special prosecutor assigned by Gov. Rick Scott, announced Zimmerman's arrest in mid-April on the charge of second-degree murder. The day after Zimmerman's arrest, his lawyer told ABC News it would be "extraordinarily difficult" for his client to receive a fair trial if it were held immediately.

"I'm hoping things will calm down," O'Mara said at the time. "I'm hoping the community truly will let us do our job, both the prosecutor and me, to try and get this case tried fairly and only in front of the jury, not on TV or the streets."

Delaying the trial could be advantageous for lawyers on both sides of the case, Nunn said. Lawyers would seize the opportunity to make sure they line up "every possible person who may have heard or seen anything under subpoena," he said.

Zimmerman has since been freed from jail on $150,000 bail and gone into hiding. He has waived his appearance at an upcoming arraignment in May, enabling him to stay underground.

James Robinson, also a former football coach of Trayvon's, worries there will be a lull in the case. He said he wants Trayvon's killing to remain in the headlines during that period.
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Well, should we let them string George up in the closest tree? Geez!  No special treatment folks, not even for you...
I can appreciate their frustration, but the legal system has to be allowed to work for all people..none of us even know all the facts yet!
I would not want to be on this jury? Even  If there would be a video showing Trayvon attacking George, which none of us knows happened or not, and the jury saw it and felt that it was self defense, there will still be riots and looting and problems...if George is not convicted to the family's and their entourage's satisfaction, there will be trouble..


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 27, 2012, 08:24:17 PM
The Official George Zimmerman's Website handled by his lawyer.

http://gzlegalcase.com/

Statement From Mark O'Mara Regarding the Funds Raised by George Zimmerman's Website



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: Toler on April 27, 2012, 08:31:24 PM
Zimmerman atty, O'Mara's twitter acct is....@GZlegalCase


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: labubske on April 27, 2012, 08:46:53 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/fl-trayvon-martin-uncertainty-20120427,0,7025192.story
Trayvon Martin's friends frustrated over potentially long wait for trial
April 27, 2012

Those who knew South Florida teenager Trayvon Martin say it was an agonizing wait between the time of his shooting and George Zimmerman's arrest.

Now comes the prospect of waiting until at least next year to learn whether Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot Trayvon, is convicted or acquitted of second-degree murder.

It's common for slaying cases to carry on in the courts for years. But the likelihood of waiting until 2013 surprised many of Trayvon's friends and acquaintances, who grew accustomed to the frenetic pace of developments in the killing.

In back-to-back fashion during the past month, a national audience saw live televised coverage of the announcement of Zimmerman's arrest, his public appearance in court and the in-court apology he made to Trayvon's parents "for the loss of your son."

Those who knew Trayvon argue Zimmerman's trial should be held now, while details of the killing are fresh in everyone's minds. They say waiting a long period raises the risk of memories blurring and of an unjust verdict.

"Tomorrow is not promised. You want justice done now," said Carter Eve, Trayvon's former football coach in Miami Gardens. "It leaves you in limbo. It leaves you wondering what is going to be going on during this whole time."

G. Vincent Lewis, an associate pastor at Trayvon's family church in Miami Gardens, said he wants a resolution in the case "hopefully sooner than later" without compromising legal fairness.
 ::snipping2::
Though a plea agreement would eliminate the need for a trial, Zimmerman's lawyer foresees one being held, perhaps next year. In a recent ABC News interview, the lawyer,Mark O'Mara, said his client may not be seen in public for a long time -- until he testifies at his trial -- because of death threats he's received.

Lewis, an associate pastor at Antioch Missionary Baptist Church, is among those who figured Zimmerman would invoke his constitutional right to a speedy trial, which would require that his trial be held within 175 days of his arrest, or by around October.

Any more of an extension would be "too long for the grieving parents and to the people," said Lewis. "I just don't think it would take a year to have a fair trial. It just shouldn't take that long."

But Zimmerman likely will waive having a speedy trial to gain time to prepare his defense, legal experts say. Zimmerman, who has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder, could face life in prison if convicted.

"I would expect he would waive time," said Kenneth Nunn, a law professor at the University of Florida. "It's a serious case, and you really don't want to rush things for what's at stake."
 ::snipping2::
According to Trayvon's family, the national outcry from the controversial shooting contributed to authorities taking a fresh look at the killing.

Angela Corey, a special prosecutor assigned by Gov. Rick Scott, announced Zimmerman's arrest in mid-April on the charge of second-degree murder. The day after Zimmerman's arrest, his lawyer told ABC News it would be "extraordinarily difficult" for his client to receive a fair trial if it were held immediately.

"I'm hoping things will calm down," O'Mara said at the time. "I'm hoping the community truly will let us do our job, both the prosecutor and me, to try and get this case tried fairly and only in front of the jury, not on TV or the streets."

Delaying the trial could be advantageous for lawyers on both sides of the case, Nunn said. Lawyers would seize the opportunity to make sure they line up "every possible person who may have heard or seen anything under subpoena," he said.

Zimmerman has since been freed from jail on $150,000 bail and gone into hiding. He has waived his appearance at an upcoming arraignment in May, enabling him to stay underground.

James Robinson, also a former football coach of Trayvon's, worries there will be a lull in the case. He said he wants Trayvon's killing to remain in the headlines during that period.
 ::snipping2::

Well, should we let them string George up in the closest tree? Geez!  No special treatment folks, not even for you...
I can appreciate their frustration, but the legal system has to be allowed to work for all people..none of us even know all the facts yet!
I would not want to be on this jury? Even  If there would be a video showing Trayvon attacking George, which none of us knows happened or not, and the jury saw it and felt that it was self defense, there will still be riots and looting and problems...if George is not convicted to the family's and their entourage's satisfaction, there will be trouble..

Yep, unfortunately I agree.  I would be on that jury and look at that evidence and be fair...and then I would dare someone to come after me...if it meant that George wasn't convicted.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on April 28, 2012, 01:40:14 AM
GZ is a dead man walking.  Soon or later, someone filled with hate will murder him because of the hate talk that is filling the air.  It won't matter what is determined by the courts.  There will be no justice in this case. 

I have to say, it offends me greatly to see people associated with churches involved in this.  Have they not read their Bibles?  NEVER did Jesus call for the deaths of people.  In fact, He taught to turn the other cheek, love your neighbor as yourself, and to give up your life for another.  Jesus was a servant shepherd.  These church folks will stand before Jesus one day and have to answer for their actions.  Shame on them.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #1 4/12/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 28, 2012, 08:41:19 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/sns-rt-us-nbc-reporter-zimmermanbre83q1at-20120427,0,29