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Missing Persons - High Profile => Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found) => Topic started by: klaasend on May 17, 2012, 06:50:00 PM



Title: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: klaasend on May 17, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_isabel_celis_thg_120425_wg.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 25, 2012, 02:05:12 PM
I'm hoping there will be an arrest/arrests in Isabel's case before the next thread change.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 25, 2012, 02:15:34 PM
Missing Arizona Girl Isabel Celis' Bedroom Had Possible Blood Stains
May 25, 2012


<snipped>

The police reports released Thursday do not name a specific suspect or show any possible theories about what happened to the girl, but detail evidence found around the crime scene. One report shows that detectives saw "apparent blood on the floor" of Celis' bedroom, and took into custody a white hat and vinyl shower curtain that had "dark red-brown or brown stains" and were found in a car located outside the family's home.

In another report, detectives noted that one person interviewed during the investigation "said that a guy who was staying with the family owed someone a lot of money and that's why she was taken."

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-arizona-girl-isabel-celis-evidence-blood-stains/story?id=16430066


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 25, 2012, 02:17:42 PM
Police reports in Isabel Celis investigation released
Posted: May 24, 2012 10:59 PM
Updated: May 24, 2012 11:04 PM

 
TUCSON - Police have released hundreds of pages of documents in the Isabel Celis case. They are officers' reports related to the investigation. Among the revelations:

<snipped>

Sergio Celis said he fell asleep on the couch watching a prerecorded baseball game the night Isabel disappeared. He claims he woke up and went to bed around 5 a.m.

<snipped>

http://www.kvoa.com/news/police-reports-in-isabel-celis-investigation-released/#!prettyPhoto/0/



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 25, 2012, 02:26:04 PM
550+ pages reveal details in extensive Celis investigation
Posted: May 24, 2012 8:04 PM PDT
Updated: May 25, 2012 9:29 AM PDT


TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) - More than 550 pages relating to the Isabel Celis case were released Thursday.

<snipped>

What exactly was taken from the home is revealed in the documents, including Isabel's hairbrush and toothbrush. The window where the screen was removed was swabbed for DNA. Also, one of the documents states, "Overall interior views of the residence including views of items of evidence as marked by detectives on scene and overall views of the middle east bedroom including views of apparent blood on the floor."

Taken from a car at the residence was a white hat and a vinyl shower curtain. The items had "dark red-brown or brown stains." Tests were not performed on scene of the shower curtain because "it was decided to keep the item close to its original condition and allow crime lab personnel to screen the shower curtain for possible evidence if deemed necessary."

One detective reported a positive Luminol reason on the "driver's seat of the Toyota Corolla," that was at the residence. Luminol is used in forensic investigations to identify traces of blood.

<snipped>

The full PDF of the documents will be available by Friday afternoon.
 
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: flutter1 on May 25, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
Looks like we are going to have some "light" reading to do over Memorial Day weekend.  Can't wait! ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 25, 2012, 03:08:21 PM
Looks like we are going to have some "light" reading to do over Memorial Day weekend.  Can't wait! ::MonkeyBike::

RC & SC will need a case of "Depends" for the weekend.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 25, 2012, 03:15:36 PM
Police reports in Isabel Celis investigation released
Posted: May 24, 2012 10:59 PM
Updated: May 24, 2012 11:04 PM

 
TUCSON - Police have released hundreds of pages of documents in the Isabel Celis case. They are officers' reports related to the investigation. Among the revelations:

<snipped>

http://www.kvoa.com/news/police-reports-in-isabel-celis-investigation-released/#!prettyPhoto/0/



Will the released document release reveal the outcome of any forensic analysis of any potential evidence?

Janet

+++++

The Moore Security Footage

NANCY GRACE
Police Examine Security Camera Video in Isabel Celis Disappearance
Aired April 27, 2012 - 20:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE:  ...Have cops come to your place and taken or looked at video of that alley behind the Celis family home which was being videoed at the time of the kidnap?

RICK MOORE, MOORE SECURITY SERVICES: They certainly have, Nancy. They contacted us right away, about 8:30 on Saturday morning. We do have some signs up in the back of the showroom area, where the cameras are located. It has our phone number on them.

So what they did was they contacted us right away. My general manager came down to the facility, to the showroom, interviewed for four or five hours with detectives, looked at footage then, reviewed footage, then came back Monday and spent basically all day.

Then had us record the information for them on a USB drive. We furnished them with all the information that was stored on the hard drive, on our digital recorder. They took it with them.

<snipped>

MOORE: There`s an alley, Nancy, right behind us. It`s about 25 yards right behind us. That`s, again, about 25 yards from the front door of Isabel`s home. And it runs right behind our showroom, and that`s where our cameras are trained on.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/27/ng.01.html



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Monkey King on May 25, 2012, 03:58:07 PM
Looks like we are going to have some "light" reading to do over Memorial Day weekend.  Can't wait! ::MonkeyBike::

RC & SC will need a case of "Depends" for the weekend.  ::MonkeyDevil::

OMG! 

Bring it on!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on May 25, 2012, 04:48:45 PM
When I hear shower curtain with blood stains, I think body disposal.  But most would leave the curtain with the body, certainly not bring it back to the home.  Bet its excused away as a opera prop for home rehearsals.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 25, 2012, 05:57:59 PM
Looks like we are going to have some "light" reading to do over Memorial Day weekend.  Can't wait! ::MonkeyBike::

RC & SC will need a case of "Depends" for the weekend.  ::MonkeyDevil::

OMG! 

Bring it on!   ::MonkeyDance::
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Monkey King on May 25, 2012, 06:54:21 PM
When I hear shower curtain with blood stains, I think body disposal.  But most would leave the curtain with the body, certainly not bring it back to the home.  Bet its excused away as a opera prop for home rehearsals.

Talk about "Go Green"!  I'd say that's taking recycling to a new level.  YUCK!   :smt078


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Monkey King on May 25, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
Is there a link to these documents?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Monkey King on May 25, 2012, 07:13:57 PM
http://blog.livenewschat.tv/the-nancy-grace-room/

JVM discussing Isabel Celis case


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 25, 2012, 07:14:16 PM
550+ pages reveal details in extensive Celis investigation
Posted: May 24, 2012 8:04 PM PDT
Updated: May 25, 2012 9:29 AM PDT


TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) - More than 550 pages relating to the Isabel Celis case were released Thursday.

<snipped>

What exactly was taken from the home is revealed in the documents, including Isabel's hairbrush and toothbrush. The window where the screen was removed was swabbed for DNA. Also, one of the documents states, "Overall interior views of the residence including views of items of evidence as marked by detectives on scene and overall views of the middle east bedroom including views of apparent blood on the floor."

Taken from a car at the residence was a white hat and a vinyl shower curtain. The items had "dark red-brown or brown stains." Tests were not performed on scene of the shower curtain because "it was decided to keep the item close to its original condition and allow crime lab personnel to screen the shower curtain for possible evidence if deemed necessary."

One detective reported a positive Luminol reason on the "driver's seat of the Toyota Corolla," that was at the residence. Luminol is used in forensic investigations to identify traces of blood.

<snipped>

The full PDF of the documents will be available by Friday afternoon.
 
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case



Documents are there now:

PDF Celis 6: Sandals found in park, DNA from family
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563539/pdf-celis-6-sandals-found-in-park-dna-from-family (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563539/pdf-celis-6-sandals-found-in-park-dna-from-family)

PDF Celis 5: Allegations of owed money, evidence from home
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563536/pdf-celis-5-allegations-of-owed-money-evidence-from-home (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563536/pdf-celis-5-allegations-of-owed-money-evidence-from-home)

PDF Celis 4: Found pillow, possible sightings
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563532/pdf-celis-4-found-pillow-possible-sightings (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563532/pdf-celis-4-found-pillow-possible-sightings)

PDF Celis 3: Details on air search, boot prints found at home
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563529/pdf-celis-3-details-on-air-search-boot-prints-found-at-home (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563529/pdf-celis-3-details-on-air-search-boot-prints-found-at-home)

PDF Celis 2: Forensics collected, items taken from home

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563528/pdf-celis-2-forensics-collected-items-taken-from-home (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563528/pdf-celis-2-forensics-collected-items-taken-from-home)

PDF Celis 1: Blood on seat, testimony from neighbor

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: melisb on May 25, 2012, 07:59:40 PM
I know all us Monkeys will be careful but there are many, many names and phone numbers not redacted.  They should have done something with those before releasing them.  Oh well, what can you do?  I made it to Sect. 3 and getting too sleepy after work.  Reading more tomorrow.  Nothing earth shattering yet.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 25, 2012, 08:02:48 PM
Posting pages as I see info::

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor)


(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisDoc1-1.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelsDoc2.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisDoc3.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisDoc4.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisDoc5.jpg)

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Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Monkey King on May 25, 2012, 08:23:12 PM
I know all us Monkeys will be careful but there are many, many names and phone numbers not redacted.  They should have done something with those before releasing them.  Oh well, what can you do?  I made it to Sect. 3 and getting too sleepy after work.  Reading more tomorrow.  Nothing earth shattering yet.

Thank you, Klaas~


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 25, 2012, 09:12:39 PM
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/intensity-of-search-for-isabel-revealed/article_91fee6b2-df37-5c40-bc2a-20e15fe69299.html

Intensity of search for Isabel revealed
Police release 500 pages of reports showing endless hours of legwork


Tucson police conducted an intensive search - in terms of the number of people questioned, tips followed and areas checked - in the hours and days after the disappearance of Isabel Celis, newly released reports show.
 
Police on Thursday made public more than 500 pages of reports filed by officers who were involved in the search for 6-year-old Isabel, who was reported missing from her midtown home on April 21.
 
The investigation has cost police more than $1 million and involved hundreds of officers from various agencies. No arrests have been made.
 
Most of the police reports were similar in detail, briefly spelling out each officer's involvement in the case. The reports were primarily from officers who conducted searches, canvassed neighborhoods or followed up on tips reported by the community.
 
Details from the reports include:
 
• An officer conducted some of the first interviews with Isabel's family after she disappeared. Isabel's mother, Becky Celis, was visibly upset and crying intermittently during a brief conversation, which was held away from the rest of the family members.
 
Isabel's father, Sergio Celis, told an officer that he grew up in the neighborhood and his family had recently moved back to the area. Celis said he knows most of his neighbors, including a sex offender who lives nearby, and didn't believe any of them took his daughter. The parents were interviewed separately.
 
• DNA samples were taken from Isabel's parents and brothers on the morning of her disappearance. An officer wrote that he took swab samples from their mouths. Also, all the bedding from the Celis home was removed, police said. Writings on Isabel's closet-door frame and walls were photographed. Blood was collected from Isabel's parents.
 
• Officers conducted intensive searches for days, stopping and questioning all people walking or driving in different areas around Isabel's home in the 5600 block of East 12th Street. They also questioned numerous sex offenders and as many residents as they encountered in nearby homes and apartments. Officers reviewed hours of video footage taken from traffic cameras around town looking for vehicles that had young children in them.
 
• Officers checked vacant buildings and homes, schools, desert areas, parks, tunnels under roads, lakes, an old drive-in theater and retention basins. The initial search spread to nearly every part of the city and extended as far east as Redington Pass. Officers also checked backyard pools and, in one case, an underground bomb shelter.
 
• Numerous reports were checked out in the following days of people seen walking, driving or in businesses with a young girl who looked like Isabel.
 
• Police also received tips from psychics and others who either claimed they had dreams that revealed Isabel's location or gave suggestions to officers.
 
• Police searched a truck belonging to one of Isabel's uncles on April 24.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 25, 2012, 09:15:45 PM
Details from the report, Part 2

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/intensity-of-search-for-isabel-revealed/article_91fee6b2-df37-5c40-bc2a-20e15fe69299.html

Sergio's job records
 
The reports also detail how police looked into Sergio Celis' employment at a dental-surgery office.
 
• After getting a subpoena, the office turned over Sergio's employment records, a report states.
 
The office manager told police that Sergio Celis did not administer "anesthesia or drugs to patients, but he does prepare them for the doctors."
 
• Police also interviewed several of the doctors who own the surgery office where Sergio works. They all described him as a "model employee," the report states.
 
They told police he is "steady, reliable, dependable, a quick learner, gets along well with staff, co-workers and patients."
 
The doctors said Sergio Celis doesn't regularly socialize with any other employees outside of work. He never borrowed money from them, the doctors told police.
 
He's been employed at the office as a surgical assistant since 2008, the doctors told police.
 
The reports state the doctors said they had no reason to believe that Sergio Celis was a "substance abuser." They also said the family did not appear to be struggling financially or to be living beyond its finances, the reports state.
 
Police have classified Isabel's disappearance as an abduction, and the parents have not been ruled out as suspects, police said recently.
 
Sergio Celis entered into an agreement with Child Protective Services to stay away from his two sons. Isabel's siblings are in the custody of their mother, police have said.
 
Becky Celis told participants in a candlelight walk last week that the voluntary separation has been hard on her husband.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 25, 2012, 09:20:21 PM
Details from the report, Part 3

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/intensity-of-search-for-isabel-revealed/article_91fee6b2-df37-5c40-bc2a-20e15fe69299.html

"A dog going crazy"
 
Many of the reports detail what nearby residents saw or heard around the time of Isabel's disappearance.
 
• Several reports list details about barking dogs and strange vehicles.
 
One officer reported that a resident on East 13th Street said she heard a "dog going crazy barking" at a house on East Cooper Street at about 2 a.m. April 21.
 
She also reported that around 8 a.m., she encountered one of Isabel's brothers walking toward an LA Fitness on Wilmot Road. She said the boy told her that he was looking for his missing sister and that he was crying.
 
• In another report, a man flagged down a police officer in the 5800 block of East Speedway and told the officer he had seen a little girl who appeared to be 6 or 7 years old running down North Columbus Boulevard late at night.
 
Officers checked the surrounding area but did not find anyone.
 
• Another officer wrote that he was sent to a motel in the 3300 block of East Benson Highway. Someone had called 911 saying he had Isabel and if police did not respond in 10 minutes he would kill her. The officer searched the area and questioned people staying in the motel but nothing suspicious was found.
 
• Another officer wrote that he was assigned to stop people entering and leaving a neighborhood at 12th Street and Van Buren Avenue, east of Isabel's house, on April 24. His report listed all the people he spoke with and the reasons they were driving or walking in the area.
 
The officer said a woman approached him and said she had been at Sears Park on East 14th Street south of Park Place mall and found a small pair of children's stockings, large shoe prints and tire tracks, a cigarette package and a receipt for a man's hat. He advised the woman to return to the park and call 911, which she did.
 
• A neighbor reported increased vehicle traffic in an alley by the Celis home days before Isabel was reported missing. He saw a 1990s minivan with tinted windows and a Ford Focus, possibly a 2001 model, with tinted windows.
 
• Another officer's report was 11 pages long, listing the names and phone numbers of every person he and several other officers questioned at an apartment complex.
 
• One officer wrote that on April 24, a man told him he had been digging in the trash behind businesses on East Irvington Road and found a plastic garbage bag with maggots and hair inside. Officers went to the business and found the bag, which contained a dead animal.
 
• Another officer wrote in a report that on the morning of Isabel's disappearance, he was canvassing a neighborhood on East 12th Street. He said a family told him about several suspicious vehicles they saw driving in the neighborhood that afternoon - one a Dodge Ram truck, another a Honda hatchback. They weren't able to get license plate numbers, the report stated.
 
The officer wrote he also searched a nearby house and an underground bomb shelter in the backyard of the house.
 
State Department of Corrections K-9 units initially deployed a tracking dog that alerted once to the residence located directly to the south of the Celis home. A search warrant was served on the house.
 
• In another report, an officer details how a set of footprints was discovered on top of a small electrical box at the rear southeast corner of the Celis home. The footprints appeared to be from a "Wolverine brand work boot or similar type shoe."
 
Three matching boot prints were discovered in the soft sand or dirt about 5 feet south of the electrical box. Crime scene units processed the prints.
 
K-9 units also discovered possible matching prints on top of a gas meter on the west side of the house


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 25, 2012, 09:59:02 PM
550+ pages reveal details in extensive Celis investigation
Posted: May 24, 2012 8:04 PM PDT
Updated: May 25, 2012 9:29 AM PDT


TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) - More than 550 pages relating to the Isabel Celis case were released Thursday.

<snipped>

What exactly was taken from the home is revealed in the documents, including Isabel's hairbrush and toothbrush. The window where the screen was removed was swabbed for DNA. Also, one of the documents states, "Overall interior views of the residence including views of items of evidence as marked by detectives on scene and overall views of the middle east bedroom including views of apparent blood on the floor."

Taken from a car at the residence was a white hat and a vinyl shower curtain. The items had "dark red-brown or brown stains." Tests were not performed on scene of the shower curtain because "it was decided to keep the item close to its original condition and allow crime lab personnel to screen the shower curtain for possible evidence if deemed necessary."

One detective reported a positive Luminol reason on the "driver's seat of the Toyota Corolla," that was at the residence. Luminol is used in forensic investigations to identify traces of blood.

<snipped>

The full PDF of the documents will be available by Friday afternoon.
 
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case



Documents are there now:

<Respectfully snipped by Tamikosmom>

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor)

Thanks Klaas

Just catching up.  Life outside the computer room becked this afternoon.

Janet
6:51 PM


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 25, 2012, 10:04:15 PM
http://blog.livenewschat.tv/the-nancy-grace-room/

JVM discussing Isabel Celis case

Monkey King ... I missed JVM and NG.  However ... a NG repeat is beginning now.

Grace ... thanks for the updates.

Janet
7:00 PM PT


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 25, 2012, 11:04:30 PM
You're welcome, Janet!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 25, 2012, 11:07:55 PM
Video at link

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/05/25/dr-henry-lee-possible-blood-isabels-home

Dr. Henry Lee on possible blood in Isabel’s home
By HLNtv.com Staff
updated 8:36 PM EDT, Fri May 25, 2012

NEED TO KNOW
 •Forensic scientist discusses new details in Isabel Celis case
 •Dr. Lee explains what investigators can learn from an apparent blood stain or a footprint


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Monkey King on May 26, 2012, 12:05:51 AM
http://blog.livenewschat.tv/the-nancy-grace-room/

JVM discussing Isabel Celis case

Monkey King ... I missed JVM and NG.  However ... a NG repeat is beginning now.

Grace ... thanks for the updates.

Janet
7:00 PM PT

Very good. Glad I located this link!


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 26, 2012, 01:39:51 AM
Does anyone know "why" these documents got released.

I mean, usually 911 calls are released when the press goes to court to get the judge to release the calls.

Florida has a Sunshine Law, whereby documents like this get released "after" the defense has received them.

This is different.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 26, 2012, 08:35:54 AM
Does anyone know "why" these documents got released.

I mean, usually 911 calls are released when the press goes to court to get the judge to release the calls.

Florida has a Sunshine Law, whereby documents like this get released "after" the defense has received them.

This is different.

I would like to know too.  I am also very surprised that they didn't block numbers and such out.  I also worry about the man that went up to the police and said that he suspects Sergio...this was someone he coached with. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: flutter1 on May 26, 2012, 09:07:39 AM
Does anyone know "why" these documents got released.

I mean, usually 911 calls are released when the press goes to court to get the judge to release the calls.

Florida has a Sunshine Law, whereby documents like this get released "after" the defense has received them.

This is different.


Three possibilities that I can come up with for releasing the docs:

1.  The police are tired of answering questions by avoiding answering them.  I really don't believe this, but if I were the police, I would probably be to this point.

2.  There is nothing in the docs that the police believe is incriminating to any known potential suspect.

3.  There is something in the docs that the police believe will lead a potential suspect to believe that the police have more evidence on him/her which they are withholding while they are either gathering additional information or waiting for lab results to come back.  The motive for LE in this case is to put pressure on the suspect to either fess up or screw up.    This is the reason I am hoping is closest to the truth, whatever it is.

Thanks to all that have posted info about and from the 550 pages.  Sounds like it is going to be as exciting to read as Moby Dick (no offense to Melville lovers).   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: flutter1 on May 26, 2012, 09:10:48 AM
BOX INTRUSIONS ALERT -- SORRY LABUBSKE AND PUZZLER, I have been up since 4 am, unwillingly, I might add.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 26, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
Edit to add link from labubske.  MB http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor
From the first 98 pages:
One neighbor stated that one month ago they were approached by a Hispanic man, 5’0 tall that held on to her and only released her once a car passed by.
One neighbor reported that an older white Lincoln full size sedan passed through the neighborhood 2-3 times at around 0930 on 4/22  Black male.
Peter P did not give phone number or DOB.
Mark T –coached with Sergio and states that he knows him well.  Approached an officer and says that he would like to speak with a detective.  Believes Sergio is involved. He may have pertinent information.
LE contacted every house with in border except one house…they did not answer (which house)?
1988 red Acura-white hat and hued green vinyl shower curtain taken into evidence. Possible blood stains.
Joseph M flagged LE down at 5810 E. Speedway Blvd (Brake Masters). Reported seeing young female (6-7 years old) running northbound on Columbus…someone was following her.  LE checked it out and found nothing. This was on 5/2.
Noted vehicles:
2003 Blue Toyota Corolla
2000 Maroon 4 door Lexus RX300
1988 Red Acura
2008 2 door extra-cab Chevrolet Silverado pick-up
Blood stain possibly found on driver’s seat Corolla
Beer can, knife, pair of black gloves, search warrant paper work on passenger seat, and towel found in Silverado. Towel was taken in as evidence.  
Handwriting found on wall, door jam, inside wall of closet in southeast bedroom.
Male and female were in yard that morning when LE arrived…said they were Uncle and his wife.  This wouldn’t be Justin M., right?  He isn’t married is he?
Becky asked if LE contacted US/Mexican border.
One of the son’s has __________? This led LE to ask if this could cause him to harm Isa. What does he have?
Both Becky and Sergio say that she left at 0730.
Sex offender on the block and Sergio states he knows him and doesn’t believe that he is responsible.
Sergio states that he went into Isa’s room, kissed her goodnight, and dimmed the lights the night she disappeared.
The boys were still awake when Isa went to bed, playing video games.  Sergio told them to keep the noise down so Isa could sleep.
Sergio states that he fell asleep watching a prerecorded Diamondbacks game in living room and fell asleep.
Sergio states that he woke up about 5am and went to bed-Becky asked if he was just getting to bed.
Ms. H. from E 13th reported a dog going crazy barking at a house on E. Cooper St N of her residence at 2am Friday night/Saturday morning.
Found an unlocked door at an abandoned Circuit City building just W of command post (SE corner of E. Broadway and N. Craycroft) on April 21.
Level 3 sex offender Michael Clay Dimitrov lives at E. 12th St.
P. family E. 12th had possibly pertinent information.
Vacant property S. Essex Lane.
Stephen M. E. 13th St. says something happened to his mailbox and vehicle lens was found by it…LE took this into evidence.
Loretta G. said that pedophile neighbor took Isa to Mexico for sex and that this happened to another little girl in the neighborhood a few years ago.
Anna T. on E. 13th St. Calls came from her residence (very close at least) saying that they know the possible location of Isa. When LE arrived she said that she didn’t make the calls.  The calls came from 911 only phone.  She stated that no one in the home had a 911 only phone.  LE noted that there is a park behind the residence but did not notice any disturbed dirt in that area.
Sergio did not borrow money from 401K and was a model employee. He also does not administer drugs to patients.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 26, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
My last post is of course from the released documents found at:
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor

Sorry, I forgot to add this link to it.  Is that all of the released documents...it says it is 98 pages.  I am sure that I am missing something.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 26, 2012, 11:54:13 AM
My last post is of course from the released documents found at:
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor

Sorry, I forgot to add this link to it.  Is that all of the released documents...it says it is 98 pages.  I am sure that I am missing something.

labubske

Thanks for the overview!! 

Some of Sergio's statements to responding officers appear to conflict with his words in the two afforded interviews.

Anyways ... I plan on reading the entire document on Monday.  Hubby and BIL are going fishing.  I will be alone but not lonely.

Have a good Saturday all.

Janet


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 26, 2012, 12:15:46 PM
Searches performed based on information in the released documents:
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor

(Order based on order of paperwork...)

Home and area searches/interviews
Indianhouse Rd to Wilmot and 5th St. to Broadway

Door to Door:
N. Wilshire and Treston Ln
8th St. and Craycroft
6th St. and Leonora Ave

Los Realos landfill

Canvassed:
E. 18th St.
E. Eastland St.
19th St.
20th St.
Jefferson Ave. to S. Brighton Lane
1005 S. Craycroft apt. complex

Foot search:
E. Broadway Blvd
Craycroft Rd.
NW and SW quads checked

Foot search:
S. of Broadway
W of Craycroft

Trash cans, tunnels, all places that could be looked at.

Residential area south of 16th.

Walked 17th

SW area of Broadway (Craycroft)

Foot search of business complex on SW quad of Broadway/Craycroft and door to door search of neighborhood to south of this area.

Canvassed apts on Bellevue

Foot canvass of area N of E. Broadway Blvd in neighborhood N of crime scene.

W. of N. Craycroft Rd South side of E. 5th St. from Craycroft to N. Rosemont Blvd and E. 7th St. from N. Craycroft Rd to N. Rosemont Blvd.

Alleyway S. of E. 7th from E. Alberta Dr. to N. Craycroft Rd.

Swept business area along Broadway Blvd E from N Indianhouse Rd. stopping at E. Broadway Blvd.

Neighborhood S of crime scene. Northside of E. 13th St.

E. 5th St to E 9th St
N Sahuara Ave to N Ironhouse Rd

E 12th (Southside of St) to N Van Buren

Southside of E. Cooper St. from S. Van Buren Ave to S. Chantilly Dr.

Wilshire Heights Park

Vacant property at S. Essex Lane

Washes

Sears Park around Park Mall

Lakeside Park (dive team too)

Desert area between N. Rosemont and E. Burns

E. Broadway

E. 8th

E. Wendrew

Desert areas of Swan and 22nd

Rim of Reid Park Lane and Lakeside Park Lane

Parking lot and dumpsters of the Sonterra apartments (located on Craycroft, S. of Broadway)

School grounds of Vail Middle School

Neighborhood S. of Vail (yards, brush, trashcans)



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 26, 2012, 01:20:02 PM
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Blood Found in Isabel Celis House; More Info Revealed in Trayvon Martin Shooting
Aired May 25, 2012 - 19:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you from Los Angeles.

Hundreds and hundreds of pages of documents just released in the case of missing 6-year-old Arizona girl, Isabel Celis, and in those documents some real stunners. Reports claiming apparent blood, a child running in the dark, a mysterious debtor, and that`s just for starters. The very latest next.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Tonight, brand-new information in the disappearance of 6-year-old Isabel Celis. We`ve got new reports that cops found blood in Isabel`s house, and that`s just the beginning. Cops released hundreds of pages of records that include some stunners: reported claims of money owed to the family, and mysterious calls to cops.

Were footprints found outside Isabel`s house? Will all of this lead to a break in the case? We`re investigating.

And the Trayvon Martin shooting case just took a 180. Witnesses are reportedly changing their stories. And now we`re learning that accused shooter George Zimmerman felt that he was very friendly with the Sanford, Florida, cops who refuse to arrest him. What`s going on here? Is everything we know about this case changing?

And our new adventure to slim. How this former "Biggest Loser" winner lost 129 pounds. What`s her secret to keeping it off?

BECKY CELIS, MOTHER OF ISABEL: My husband loves those boys, loves my daughter.

(via phone) Hello.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ma`am, are you the mom?

B. CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. What is your name?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My name is Rebecca Celis. C-E-L-I-S.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who noticed her gone, your husband?

B. CELIS: My husband. I went to work this morning at 7. She has brown hair.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... at all?

B. CELIS: No. I didn`t hear anything at all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police continue to re-interview neighbors. They`re hoping to contact about 120 people.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We happen to have in excess of 540-some registered sex offenders.

ALICIA STARDEVANT, NEIGHBOR: My dogs were going crazy. Their dogs were going nuts.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There were some bones found earlier today, possible human remains. It`s still not definitively clear.

SERGIO CELIS, FATHER OF ISABEL: We will do anything for her. We are looking -- we`re looking for you.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight police release massive amounts of evidence in the case of missing 6-year-old Isabel Celis. New information includes one staggering fact: that there may have been blood on the floor of the little girl`s bedroom.

This is an enormous download of information, hundreds of documents spanning the entire investigation that began five long weeks ago. Police only gave out a couple of hard copies of this evidence, so we`ve been working off published reports tonight.

The volume of information absolutely staggering, more than 550 pages - - 550 pages -- of police reports. The docs reveal this investigation has already cost over a million dollars, mobilizing hundreds of officers from various agencies.

Now this comes hot on the heels of the 911 call, which kicked off the frantic search.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You looked everywhere, under the bed, the closets, everything?

B. CELIS (via phone): Yes, I looked everywhere. I even looked -- the window`s out of our house. Somebody took the window out of our house.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

B. CELIS: Please hurry, please, and get here.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re almost there, ma`am, OK?

B. CELIS: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where is your husband and your kids?

B. CELIS: They`re outside waiting for the cops.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

B. CELIS: Oh, my God.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Isabel`s mother clearly hysterical. From all the new evidence, this may be the key item: photos of the middle East bedroom in the Celis home include, quote, "views of apparent blood on the floor," end quote. That is Isabel`s bedroom. The one she was sleeping in when she apparently vanished.

So whose blood was found? When was it left there?

The evidence also states DNA samples were taken from Isabel`s parents and brothers. Their mouths swabbed and blood collected from Isabel`s parents, mom and dad.

Straight out to Claire Doan, a reporter for KGUN on the ground in Tucson, Arizona.

Claire, you`ve been pouring over these documents. What`s the most startling evidence that`s popping out at you tonight?

CLAIRE DOAN, REPORTER, KGUN: You know, you mentioned it, Jane. It is that blood that was found on pictures, apparent blood that they captured at that middle East bedroom.

But also, there wasn`t just blood in the bedroom. There was also what they considered red or brown stains found on items in the car near the Celis home: a white hat, vinyl shower curtain that had stains on them. And that is what police collected as well for evidence.

They found footprints, as well, around the home. Boot prints near the small electrical box also feet away, as well; footprints, as well, that could be consistent. So a lot of evidence found at the home that police have detailed in some of those records that were released today.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I just want to clarify. You said something about blood and a car? Is that what you said?

DOAN: Blood in -- from a white hat, possible blood because it has red, brown or brown stains from a white hat, as well as from a vinyl shower curtain that police did get from inside the car that they took to their compound to analyze for evidence.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Is that the Celis` car?

DOAN: Yes. From what we know of those documents, yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow. Wow. Well, you know --

DOAN: Very startling information.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: People are wondering about -- stand by, because we`re going to come back to you. But people have been wondering about Isabel`s father ever since hearing this 911 call. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is mom there, also?

S. CELIS (via phone): She just left for work. I just called her, and I told her to get her butt home. (CHUCKLES)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. The dad is apparently heard chuckling, if you listen very carefully, as he reports his daughter missing. His tone has raised eyebrows.

And now the just-released reports reveal that a police officer was approached by somebody who claimed to be a friend of Isabel`s father, and that friend told cops, quote, "Something didn`t seem right about what was going on" and alluded that he believed the father was in some way involved.

Now I want to stress that nobody has been named a suspect. Nobody has been eliminated. But nobody has been named.

This person could some kind of busy body, somebody with a grudge, a total crackpot, somebody playing detective who has no evidence, but you`ve got to wonder about this comment.

So I want to go out to David Pike. We have an exclusive interview with Isabel`s neighbor, David Pike.

David, I understand that your boys played with Isabel`s brothers. Is that true, sir?

DAVID PIKE, NEIGHBOR (via phone): Yes, ma`am. We...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So -- go ahead.

PIKE: Yes, they -- early on a couple years ago they -- after they had moved in, they -- their younger boys and Serge Jr. were into BMX bicycles. So they came over and visited with my boys who were also into BMXs. And my older son, who`s now 18, talked to them about bicycles and went down to their house and visited with Serge Sr. and -- because he also rides bicycles.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Speaking of Serge Sr., what do you make of him? There`s a lot of -- obviously the police focus on who`s there first. They focus on the family first. What would you like to say about the father of missing Isabel Celis?

PIKE: In passing and seeing him walking back and forth to his mother and father`s house, which would be Grandma and Grandpa, who we`ve known for 16 years. And everything seemed -- and apparently, you know, the kids seemed like they were doing well prior to this incident taking place. Seeing them walking up and down the street with Isabel to Grandma and Grandpa`s house, riding on dad`s shoulders, typical, you know...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So, David, did he seem like a good dad? Did he seem in any way, shape or form creepy or just like a good dad who was nothing to see here?

PIKE: No, not to us. We`re about five -- we`re five houses down from them on the same side of the street, and we`ve been here for 16 years. And they moved in about four years ago.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let me jump in and ask you. I just want to get a sense, because I`m not sure what you`re saying. Would you trust your kids with Isabel`s dad?

PIKE: I have trusted them down there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So how would you like to characterize him? What would you say if you were asked about him?

PIKE: He seemed like a nice person to me. Whenever I stopped by and visited him going in and out of the neighborhood, when he was out there with the boys or doing, you know, things in his garage, working on bicycles or whatever it was he was doing. I didn`t see a whole lot of Mom, because she worked all the time.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, that`s interesting, and I think it`s really important to get a balanced perspective on this. The Celis family started out quiet, but they`ve since opened up and they`ve talked to the media a lot.

Isabel`s mom has defended her husband after he was told to have no contact with his two young sons. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

B. CELIS: My husband is a great father. The kids -- my husband loves those boys, loves my daughter, is a great husband, a great -- a great father to the boys and to Isabel. And you know, at the end of -- at the end of the day when Isabel comes home, everybody`s answers -- or everybody`s questions will be answered.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But here`s another disturbing new piece of evidence. ABC News is reporting that one person interviewed during the investigation said that, quote, "a guy who was staying with the family owed someone a lot of money, and that`s why she was taken."

Extraordinary. Tanya Acker, attorney, your reaction.

TANYA ACKER, ATTORNEY: I think that one of the things that`s so striking about this case is that there`s all of this loose evidence, and this is particularly important. Who is this guy? Who is the person who gave the police information about his alleged debt that he owed? Who did he owe the money to? There are so many questions here.

We`re still early in the action. But, you know, the further -- the longer that we go on with this, the harder it becomes to get really firm answers. I think that it`s important that investigators pin this down as quickly as possible.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Is there a mystery person who owed the Celis family money? And, if so, why are we just hearing about it now? More on the other side.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

B. CELIS (via phone): I went to work this morning at 7, and I just -- and I didn`t even come and check on her. I should have come and checked on her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. All right. Take a deep breath, OK. I know it`s hard.

B. CELIS: Oh, no, I can`t even...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Does she have a medical condition?

B. CELIS: No, she has nothing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m sorry, she has what?

B. CELIS: She has nothing. No medical condition. She`s healthy. No allergies, no medical conditions. She has brown hair.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Didn`t hear anything at all?

B. CELIS: No, I didn`t hear anything at all.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Five hundred and fifty pages of new documents released in the disappearance of Isabel Celis. The headline: blood, apparent blood, found on the floor of her bedroom.

Forensic psychologist Brian Russell, isn`t, though, there an innocent explanation, given that young Isabel lived in the house?

BRIAN RUSSELL, FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, you`re right, Jane. You could find blood in many homes in small quantities, in predictable places like the sink where people shave, for example. And so it`s all about the quantity and the location.

And I think the bigger bombshell tonight is the assertion that there may be a new player involved in this case that we`re just now hearing about.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, this apparent man who somebody mentions in these reports that allegedly, purportedly owes the Celis family money and may have been staying with him. And why are we just hearing about that now?

Now, some of the evidence lines up very carefully with the 911 calls. Listen to Isabel`s father and how he called in the disappearance of his daughter.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tucson Police Department.

S. CELIS (via phone): Hello, I need to report a missing child. I believe she was abducted from my house.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How old?

S. CELIS: Six years old.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, is it your daughter or...?

S. CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why do you think she was abducted?

S. CELIS: I have no idea. We woke up this morning, and I went to get her up for her baseball game and she`s gone.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Claire Doan, KGUN reporter, "The Arizona Daily Star" now reporting that, in one of these reports, a man says he flagged down a police officer and told the cop he had seen a little girl who appeared to be 6 or 7 years old, running down North Columbus Boulevard late at night. How close is this boulevard to where the Celis family is, and is this a credible report?

DOAN: You know, it is relatively close. It takes minutes to get from the house to Columbus Boulevard.

But police at this point are telling us they are checking every lead, no matter how ridiculous it is. No matter what, they are following up on it.

But what was really interesting in the reports, Jane, is that there was a man who also flagged police down and said that he actually knew the father, Sergio Celis, really well. Alluded to the fact that there was something going on, there was something strange there going on with the father. And he believed the father had some kind of involvement in his daughter`s disappearance. And he wanted to talk to detectives further about the information he had. And that was very interesting in some of the documents that we received today.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, and the other big headline -- David Pike, you are Isabel`s neighbor. Your boys played with Isabel`s brothers. This report that there was some guy staying reportedly, allegedly, with the Celis family, who owed them a lot of money. Have you ever heard anything about this claim before just now -- David.

PIKE: No, Jane. We knew that I believe Becky`s brother was staying with the family for a while, a year or so ago, and the boys had alluded that it was their uncle or cousin. And he was...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well -- go ahead.

PIKE: Yes, he was staying with them, but I think it was, like, maybe six or eight months. I`m not sure how long he stayed with them, but, yes, he was living there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tanya Acker, attorney, you`re here on set with me in L.A. You`ve covered so many of these cases. Should the police have let us know about this mystery figure beforehand?

TANYA ACKER, ATTORNEY: I think that the police should at the very least, before they let us know, they should have taken his statement. They should have found out who he was.

I mean, you know, it`s one thing simply to have these reports, to have these allegations, to have these third-party witness statements. But, you know, if there is a person who was in that house, the police, hopefully by this time, know who he is, have taken his statement, even if they`re not releasing that evidence to the public.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but when you hear these parents pleading for information, either the police are telling them don`t reveal that somebody was staying there allegedly, purportedly. Don`t reveal that somebody owed you money, or they`re holding it back intentionally. Or it just didn`t happen, and it`s a false report.

Either way it`s a confusing case. Police are working around the clock to find this precious child. We certainly hope they do.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 26, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1205/25/ng.01.html
NANCY GRACE
Apparent Blood Found in Missing Isabel`s Bedroom
Aired May 25, 2012 - 20:00   ET

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, live, Tucson. A parent`s worst nightmare, Mommy and Daddy tuck 6-year-old Isabel into bed. 8:00 AM, she`s gone. She usually sleeps with her two brothers, but not that night. After a third search at the home and a landfill, police seizing fabric and pillows from the family car.

Then a stunning reveal from Tucson police that the parents have, quote, "no sense of urgency." Mommy and Daddy take polygraphs but won`t they passed. A secret home security camera trained on the path to Isabel`s window not working that night.

In a major twist, Isabel`s father banned from any contact with the two remaining young sons, Isabel`s brothers, Mommy and Daddy now living separately. We obtain 911 calls showing a stunning contrast between Mommy and Daddy, both on the 911. Daddy is calm, cool, even chuckling, this just moments after he discovers his 6-year-old girl is gone. Mommy, on the other hand, hysterical. We learned child services in the home just before Isabel disappears. And has Daddy lawyered up?

Bombshell tonight. A blood-like substance found in Isabel`s bedroom. Repeat, a blood-like substance found on the floor of the 6-year-old`s room. Similar stains, we learn tonight, also found on a white shower curtain stuffed inside that family car, luminol testing done throughout. And tonight, another clue. A man`s Wolverine brand boot prints discovered behind the home. Tonight, is there finally a crack in the case of missing 6-year-old Isabel?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SERGIO CELIS, ISABEL`S FATHER: Just please, please, to the person or persons who have Isabel...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just hearing about this for the first time...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) blood on the floor...

SERGIO CELIS: Tell us your demands.

BECKY CELIS, ISABEL`S MOTHER -- my husband. I went to work this morning at 7:00, and I just I didn`t even come and check on her (INAUDIBLE)

SERGIO CELIS: Tell us what you want.

Hello. I need to report a missing child. I believe she was abducted from my house.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This new theory that somebody staying at the house may have owed somebody money and that the little girl was taken as a ransom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Reported footprints on a utility box behind the home.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you tell us how much money might be available if ransom ever happened to be paid, just hypothetically?

BECKY CELIS: Out of us?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

BECKY CELIS: Nothing. Nothing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nowhere in the documents, however, is there mention of a ransom or any notes found inside.

BECKY CELIS: (INAUDIBLE) can`t see anything else. And the door`s locked to outside (INAUDIBLE) come (INAUDIBLE) fence, or I don`t know what they did, but oh, my God!

If you know how we`re supposed to be acting, please let us know.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight. A blood-like substance found in Isabel`s bedroom. Repeat, found on the floor of the 6-year-old`s bedroom. We are just learning that tonight. Similar stains also found on a white shower curtain stuffed inside the family car. Luminol testing done throughout.

And tonight, another clue. A man`s Wolverine brand boot print discovered behind the home. Is there a crack in the case? Where is 6- year-old Isabel?

We are taking your calls. Straight out to ABC News correspondent Neal Karlinsky. Neal, thank you for being with us. What can you tell us about -- first of all, I`m not crazy about the boot print. That could be anybody, anytime. I`m concerned about the blood-like substance found in her bedroom and what was on that white shower curtain and why was the shower curtain in the car?

NEAL KARLINSKY, ABC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, a lot of good questions. I mean, we have 550 pages of police documents that are released, with all kinds of information, some of it relevant, some of it likely not.

But of course, the standouts do include what is described in the documents as photographs of a blood-like stain in a middle bedroom on the east side of the house. We know from witnesses, also from blueprints that we`ve obtained of the house, that that was Isabel Celis`s bedroom, the one with where there is the blood-like substance.

Now, what we don`t know is what the lab analysis told police, if, in fact, it`s come back yet, about what exactly that was. We do know they took DNA from all of the relatives. They took a toothbrush and a hairbrush from Isabel to make a comparison.

Is there a match? That is something that is not revealed.

GRACE: We also learned that there was, in fact, Neal Karlinsky, writing in her bedroom closet. We learned that, too.

KARLINSKY: Police scoured this house inch by inch. The writing on the bedroom closet, we have no reference point of that. Is that something a little girl writes on her wall or something more? There`s no indications of a ransom note...

GRACE: Neal...

KARLINSKY: ... or of anything like that.

GRACE: Neal?

KARLINSKY: Yes?

GRACE: Did your parents let you write on the wall?

KARLINSKY: I can`t speak for how other people raise their children.

GRACE: So that would be a no!

KARLINSKY: I`m the father of a 6-year-old. She does some things I don`t like her to do, also.

GRACE: Well, long story short, we learned that some type of message had been scrawled on the inside of the wall of Isabel`s closet. We are also learning a blood-like substance found on the floor of her room. And based on everything we know, based on the exterior of the home and the blueprint that we obtained, that is her bedroom.

What can you tell me -- Neal Karlinsky joining us tonight, everyone, ABC News correspondent -- regarding a white shower curtain in that family car, the red car that was parked in the driveway, the car that wouldn`t crank up, that nobody would use? That was parked in the driveway. We have video -- pull it, Liz -- of police removing fabric and pillows from the car.

Tonight, we learn that fabric is a white shower curtain with similar stains on it, blood-like stains on it.

KARLINSKY: Yes. This is very curious. I was there right after the disappearance for more than a week, and we watched police just tearing apart that red car, just going through it methodically day after day. Now we know from these documents they did, in fact, find what they describe as a white hat and also a shower curtain inside with a brown or reddish-brown substance on it.

Of course, that leads you to be curious as to whether that`s blood. They say that it wasn`t field-tested. Again, we don`t know what the lab results were on that. But as you mentioned, we have been told by police sources that red car never left the house. It was actually parked off to the side of the driveway, sort of adjacent, and we`re told it didn`t run.

GRACE: Well, I want to go to Dr. Bill Lloyd, board-certified surgeon and pathologist. Dr. Lloyd, thank you for being with us. We know that white shower curtain was stuffed into the car, OK? All this occurred -- Isabel`s disappearance occurred between 11:00 PM that night and 8:00 AM, when her father discovers she`s gone. To our knowledge, no one left the home during the night.

If the shower curtain was removed from the home that night, where else would there be to stuff it, the trash or a car that doesn`t work, that nobody will think to look in? The mom wouldn`t look in it. The dad wouldn`t look in it. So if you have this shower curtain it can be stuffed in the car and no one would think to look there for a period of time because the car didn`t work. So why was the shower curtain stuffed in the car?

But my question to you, Dr. Lloyd, is this. Police chose at that moment not to field-test the shower curtain. But there`s a reason for that. Their reasoning, Dr. Lloyd -- and I want your thoughts on this -- is that they wanted that shower curtain in as much -- as close to the condition they found it as when the lab got it. They didn`t want to touch it. They didn`t want to handle it. They didn`t want to destroy any evidence. They saw it, they seized it, they sent it to the crime lab.

Was that a mistake, or would you agree with their decision, Dr. Lloyd?

DR. BILL LLOYD, SURGEON AND PATHOLOGIST: No, that`s standard protocol, Nancy. They want a very contained environment when they unravel and open up that shower curtain. It`ll be just as important to retrieve fingerprints as it will be to test whatever substance is on the shower curtain.

That takes time. It takes a controlled environment. They don`t want anybody else`s fingerprints on that shower curtain, as well. Once the fingerprints are captured, then they can go about testing the stain, take small samples and reconstitute that to identify, is this blood, and then test for blood antigens to identify whose blood it is.

And remember, Nancy, I bet you that car was locked. Whoever put that shower curtain in the car had to have a key.

GRACE: You know what, Dr. Lloyd? I just wrote the question, Who had access to the car? Because that car was always parked. I confirmed that with the next-door neighbor. And she told me that car had never been moved in all the time she had lived there. To my understanding, it didn`t work or it didn`t crank. I`m sure it was locked. The reality is...

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: ... had a key.

LLOYD: ... the shower curtain. Testing for blood rescue, you need a dark environment. Nancy, you can only do it once. You can only test for luminol once, then the reaction is over. So you have to be ready to view it in the dark and to have your photographic apparatus all set up. Again, a controlled environment is the best way to capture solid evidence.

GRACE: Apparently, Dr. Lloyd, when they saw it, they recognized a similar stain on the shower curtain and what they saw on the floor in Isabel`s bedroom. And we`ve been told that was a blood-like substance on the floor of her bedroom. They could, I think, have taken a scratch of it for a field test, but why bother? I agree.

And if you see that video again, Liz, please, they all have on their latex gloves. They`re not leaving fingerprints. God help (ph) them. So they wouldn`t have been contaminated in that way.

Everybody, we are taking your calls. To Alexis Tereszcuk, senior reporter, Radaronline.com. What more do we know, Alexis?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: You know, Nancy, there was even more potential blood evidence found in another car. They found a small spot of blood on the front seat of the car. This is another -- so that`s three examples of potential blood that they found in Isabel`s residence.

GRACE: You know what? I`ve got a problem with that car, Ellie Jostad, because I don`t understand -- there`s two cars in play here...

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Right.

GRACE: ... the car that -- the red, I think, is an Acura Integra...

JOSTAD: Right.

GRACE: ... old model, right there parked in front of -- beside the home. It`s always there. I think it doesn`t crank. That`s where they got a shower curtain, a hat, which many people believe to be a shower cap. I`m going to go back to Karlinsky on that in just a moment.

But then there`s another car, Ellie, that they say they did luminol tests on.

JOSTAD: Right.

GRACE: What is that? Where does that car fit into the scenario?

JOSTAD: Right. Well, that`s the other car that`s involved here. It is a Toyota Corolla. Apparently, they did a luminol test and there was a stain in there that had a positive reaction to the luminol when it was examined under an ultraviolet light. We don`t know, though, whose car that is or where the car was in it relation to the house.

GRACE: Neal Karlinsky, ABC News correspondent, is joining us right now from the field. Neal, what do we know about this second car in which they did a luminol test with a positive result?

KARLINSKY: So there`s two cars. There`s the red car you`re talking about. That just sits on the side of the house.

GRACE: Right.

KARLINSKY: It does not go anywhere. There is the car in the garage. We`re told that`s a Toyota Corolla the family apparently drives. And the luminol test, the positive result for blood was on the driver`s seat -- the driver`s seat. I think that`s critical.

I want to make one other point, Nancy, about the blood found in Isabel`s bedroom, or what appears to be blood. If you remember back early on in this case, police were wrapping up their search of the house. They were going to give it back to the family.

Then they came out and told reporters that some of the new dogs that were brought out by the FBI lab in Quantico hit on something in her bedroom, and that led them to search her house further for another 24 hours. It looks like possibly that could be the stain they`re now talking about in these documents.

GRACE: At this hour, the search is on for 6-year-old Isabel. And tonight, blockbuster evidence that we have just obtained, including blood evidence, possible blood evidence, and also boot print evidence. Police have narrowed it down to what they believe, Wolverine brand boot prints behind the back yard.

Let`s see a mock-up of the Wolverine boot print, please, or the Wolverine boot. OK, and also, take a look at those shoes being worn by dad, Sergio Celis. What does that look like to you, Jason Oshins?

JASON OSHINS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Looks like a Wolverine boot print right there. So you know, as you`re looking at that, you certainly give pause. You`ve got a lot of evidence working here against Mr. Celis for the moment, and it seems to be mounting. But the point we must remain (SIC) is that police have got to be fair. They`ve invested a lot of money on this.

GRACE: Another issue is a lot of boots can look like a Wolverine. You have to make a test inside of a lab to match up any boot print. We don`t know whose boot print that was, and even if it was Sergio Celis`s boot print, he has a right to be in his back yard, people.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Isabel Celis disappearing from her family`s Tucson home.

911 OPERATOR: 911. What`s your emergency?

SERGIO CELIS: I want to report a missing person, my little girl who is 6 years old. I believe she was abducted from our house.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A witness telling them that a guy who was staying with the family owed someone a lot of money, and that`s why she was taken.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anybody who would hold a grudge against you for any reason?

SERGIO CELIS: No.

BECKY CELIS: No, that`s the whole problem is that we don`t understand why or how we made Isabel a target.

SERGIO CELIS: To the person or persons who have Isabel, tell us your demands. Tell us what you want.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: And tonight, we learn from volumes of police documents that a neighbor said they think this was some kind of retribution for money owed by a relative living in the home.

Now, we know of a cousin living in the home. Ellie, was it a cousin or the brother of Sergio Celis?

JOSTAD: It was a cousin. And I believe it is actually on Becky Celis`s side of the family.

GRACE: OK. Unleash the lawyers. Eleanor Odom, death penalty- qualified prosecutor, Karen Conti, defense attorney, Chicago, Jason Oshins, defense attorney, New York.

Eleanor, all this business about it was for a debt or a drug debt -- BS. That only happens in the movies. And number two, if it was, where`s the ransom? Where`s the ransom request?

ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: Exactly, Nancy. That`s just sort of a bogus theory that`s going out there. People take children -- and I hate to say it, but they only take them for one reason, Nancy, to sexually abuse them because why else are you going to take a small child? There`s no note. There`s no nothing. And this is what is so frightening about these cases. It`s abuse, and often murder.

GRACE: Jason Oshins?

OSHINS: Eleanor is right on target. I mean, there`s no other -- ransoms are from the movies. I mean, that`s the only place that they sit well. They -- it doesn`t occur in modern times. It`s for sexual purposes, and that`s the unfortunateness of this abduction.

GRACE: Karen Conti?

KAREN CONTI, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It looks to me like they`re just trying to divert attention -- We didn`t do anything, it`s the guy who`s owed money. So I agree with the other lawyers.

GRACE: To you, Caryn Stark. The reality is that when you think back on all the cases you`ve covered and analyzed, how often do you really see anyone kidnapped for money, a legitimate ransom case, or payback? I mean, this is not a Colombian drug lord case, OK? He worked as a dental assistant.

CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: That`s the whole point, Nancy. It would make a lot more sense if this was a very wealthy family. So no, we see kidnappings so that people can take the child and abuse the child, sometimes turn them into a slave, as we`ve seen in some cases, but not for money. It doesn`t make any sense at all.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: Any marks, scars?

BECKY CELIS: Other than the window out, I can`t see anything else. And the door`s locked to outside, so they had to have jumped over the fence.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can see that it would quite simple for someone to get over this wall directly to Isabel`s bedroom window.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Straight out to Neal Karlinsky, ABC News correspondent. Neal, what can you tell me about these footprints police say are Wolverine brand boot prints?

KARLINSKY: Apparently, they were on a utility box behind the house. Now, as you know, there`s a wall that goes all the way around the house, and depending on where in the house you are, the wall is actually higher or lower because the ground is at different heights.

You know, it`s a working-class neighborhood. That boot, as you said, it could belong to anyone. I`m sure police are analyzing that. But that back side of the house where they found the boot prints is also an alleyway. That`s where all the garbage was, and there was a lot of traffic going through there.

GRACE: Hey, take a look at your monitor if you can, Neal. We`ve got Greg Overzat, our producer, just stood up on the very box they`re talking about.

Neal, were any of these boot prints found in between the house and the wall? Because right now, I`m understanding boot prints on that box, which looks over the fence -- it`s on the other side of the wall away from the home.

KARLINSKY: Well, I can`t see the monitor that you have, but they did find other prints. And dogs certainly tracked to a house on the other side. But you know, police were scouring every house in this neighborhood. I mean, you had a high-level sex offender five doors down to the right as you walk out of the Celis door, 17 within a three-square-mile area.

We watched police interview and reinterview and go through homes all throughout there. In some of these documents, they talk about finding substances in the homes that they want to test and see if they`re blood or not. But it`s all incredibly random, and without the lab analysis, we don`t know what they found.

GRACE: To Jean Casarez, legal correspondent "In Session," joining us from the field. Jean, what do you know?

JEAN CASAREZ, "IN SESSION": Well, you know what`s interesting is that Sergio Celis, who we thought was the last one to have seen his daughter, said to investigators that he fell asleep on the couch, went to his bedroom at 5:00 AM in the morning and did not check on Isabel.

GRACE: Repeat, Jean.

CASAREZ: That he fell asleep on the sofa watching, we believe, the Diamondbacks baseball game rerun, woke up at 5:00 AM, went to his bedroom, did not check on his daughter. So when was the last time Isabel was even seen by a family member, 10:30 at night?

GRACE: You know what? You`re right, Jean. And Jean, what is your understanding as to where these Wolverine brand boot prints are found?

CASAREZ: On the utility meter box. And a meter box, we saw, is outside the property, and then there are some footprints about five feet away. And a meter box could be used to get up and over, so that is true.

(CROSSTALK)

CASAREZ: Here`s what I`m so concerned about...

GRACE: ... on the other side of the wall, Jean?

CASAREZ: And that`s a question and I think that`s an important question. Were those boot prints on the other side of the wall? Were they found there?

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell us your demands. Tell us what you want.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: New evidence police have revealed from inside her own home.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The room with the apparent blood, according to a blueprint of the house, is the missing 6-year-old.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is mom there, also?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She just left for work. I just called her and told her to get her butt home.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is Sergio. That is him because his 10-year- old son is right there when he`s making the call.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From early on, very early on, there`s been talk of ransom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If there were demands, please let us know something. Let us know something. Why is this happening? What is the reasoning behind it?

(END VIDEOTAPE)

GRACE: And there you hear the only reference about demands made by Sergio Celis, the father.

Out to Neal Karlinsky, ABC news correspondent.

Is that where all of this is coming from, this line of investigation regarding a ransom demand because Sergio Celis and the public statement he made refers to what are your demands?

NEAL KARLINSKY, ABC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: It`s unclear. It`s interesting. I was standing right in front of him when he said that and a lot of people were finding that curious. It`s something you hear more about in television shows, in the movies, and we were wondering where that came from.

In the police reports we know that the report of someone in the house owing money, and that`s what this is all about, according to the report. That comes from a witness, not a family member, in a statement to police. We don`t know the veracity of it.

GRACE: What can you tell us, Neal Karlinsky, about the dogs that searched the various homes?

KARLINSKY: This is interesting because we spoke, when I was there, to the next door neighbor who lives in a bedroom that is immediately a few feet across from Isabel Celis` bedroom. She told us, she tells police in the reports we now have that at 6:30 a.m., she was woken up by dogs barking loud, going crazy, she said, and we know that`s her dog and also dogs in the Celis home. More than one they had that barked routinely.

She also heard men`s voices. There are other reports of dogs barking.

Sergio, however, talks about waking up on the couch at 5:00 a.m., walking back to bed, not waking up until after 7:00, and he says he didn`t hear a thing. He didn`t hear any dogs.

GRACE: You know what, we spoke to her and she confirms what you`re saying, and your point is?

KARLINSKY: Well, why would he have not heard dogs? It seems to be an odd mismatch there between someone who is right next door and other neighbors and someone who was inside the house and who even concedes to police that his dogs bark at the drop of a hat.

GRACE: You`re right, Neal. With me ABC news correspondent Neal Karlinsky.

Out to lines.

Susan in Missouri. Hi, Susan. What`s your question?

SUSAN, CALLER, MISSOURI: I was just wondering if they ever said what was written inside of the encloses.

GRACE: No, they have not, Susan. We are still trying to find out.

Out to Wendy in, Ohio. Hi, Wendy. What`s your question?

WENDY, CALLER, OHIO: Hi. My question, if the blood was found inside the house, it`s surprising nobody would hear like, you know, a child being hurt, you know. So like, you know, I`m just wondering if the family or someone was in the house, you know, that night.

GRACE: Good question. I want to go to Bill Lloyd on that. But I want to quickly follow up on the blood. The blood like evidence found in the home, with renowned professor of forensic science out of the university of new haven, with us tonight, Dr. Henry Lee.

Henry, thank you so much for being with us.

HENRY LEE, PHD, RENOWNED PROFESSOR OF FORENSIC SCIENCE, UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAVEN: You`re most welcome.

GRACE: Dr. Lee, what do you make of the police decision not to field test the blood like substance found on the shower curtain stuffed in the family car?

LEE: OK. It`s pretty simple, Nancy. Basically here must be a small amount of blood, minutia amount of blood. Usually make the decision if we do the field it test, you are going to exhaust it, use up all the sample that will prohibit the future to do DNA. More likely to collect the whole item a modest sample must be very small. It took them almost a month to find out that`s blood.

Now, the next thing is this human blood? If it`s human blood, we`ll have to do some DNA. It`s her blood or somebody else. Also, we have to look at the blood, is this whole blood? It (INAUDIBLE) means, it may be washed. And, of course, we`ll look at the pattern. Is that an impact spatter pattern or a blood dripping or a transfer pattern?

So, very important thing they have to do. Of course given that`s her blood, this is occasional contact, transfer on the surface quite a while ago or very recent. Just like you measure the shoeprint that`s not really a footprint. That`s a shoeprint and the shoeprint, no, that`s two dimensional, three dimensional. It`s the indentation on the flat print. Of course we can look at the size and look at the width and determine more likely the individual`s height and the weight and, of course, trace the brand name of this shoeprint, determine what type of boots. Because so many different work boots, now we have a database of the work boot that`s easy to track down.

GRACE: To Dr. Bill Lloyd, I want to go back to Wendy in Ohio`s question, Dr. Lloyd.

She asked if there had been a death or injury resulting in blood being spilled on to the floor of Isabel`s room, why wouldn`t anyone else hear it, Dr. Lloyd?

DOCTOR BILL LLOYD, M.D., BOARD CERTIFIED SURGEON, PATHOLOGIST (via telephone): Well, that`s the great mystery, Nancy. There are stories about dogs barking like crazy in the middle of the night. Dad is sleeping on a sofa just a few feet away from her. There are so many of these puzzle pieces that don`t fit together.

GRACE: But wouldn`t you agree there are ways for blood to be spent without noise?

LLOYD: Well, certainly. If you have someone silenced with a hand over the mouth, et cetera, and you`re injuring them enough to draw blood, you know, it`s possible if they were unconscious or drugged it would also be possible as well.

It would also be possible to date how long that blood has been there. Was it blood from perhaps a previous abuse event, or was it the current event that we`re talking about that led to the disappearance of this poor girl?

GRACE: To Marc Klaas, president and founder of Klaas Kids Foundation.

Marc, what do all of these developments mean to you?

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT, FOUNDER, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION: Well, there`s a couple of things. First of all, the police might very well have told Sergio and Becky to be aware of the fact that somebody might call in with some kind of ransom demand. They certainly did that in our case.

Secondly, I said this many times, Polly`s mother slept through the entire kidnapping incident and she was mere feet away from Polly`s bedroom at the time. So I think these are things that need to be -- there`s something I have to say here, Nancy.

Today is national missing children`s date. And it`s national missing children`s date for a specific reason. President Ronald Reagan felt that child safety should be a national priority and that was based upon the kidnapping of Etan Patz which happened exactly 33 years ago today.

And I`ve heard more than once through this investigation, even today, somebody bringing up the cost of this investigation, that the police have spent so much money looking for this little girl. I never hear that in any other crime, the reference to the kind of money that`s being spent. And I`m absolutely insulted that anybody, whether it`s a cop or a reporter or anybody else would start making this connection between the amount of money that`s been spent on this investigation and the fact this little girl is not missing.

Their job, the police`s job, is to find and secure and keep us safe. It`s not to be bookkeeping. And I think anybody who is following the dollars and cents in this case has their priorities very mixed up.

GRACE: You know what, Marc Klaas, I heard the same thing and my response was equal to yours. The reality is I`m paying half my money to taxes. I`m happy that it`s being spent to try to find Isabel as opposed to paying some fat cat laid up kicked back on Capitol Hill spending my money. All right?

So they`re going to take our money whether we like it or not. And don`t get me wrong, IRS, I`m OK with it. But, what I`m saying is, good, spend it to find Isabel Celis. That`s how I feel about it, Marc. And I`m pretty sure you agree with me.

I want to go back to Jean Casarez, legal correspondent "In Session" joining us from the field right now.

So many developments. What do we know about Luminol tests in a red Toyota? We`ve now learned there is the car parked in the driveway, which is the a Acura Integra, and then the other car where Luminol results were positive, parked in the garage.

JEAN CASAREZ, LEGAL CORRESPONDENT, IN SESSION: You know, there`s so much, Nancy, we learned from the beginning that now we can put together with some of the information from the reports. The red car that had the smashed in windshield that it doesn`t move, it tested positive with Luminol in the driver`s seat area. And we also know that pillows and a blanket were taken out of that vehicle.

Unleash the lawyers. Eleanor Odom, Karen Conti, Jason Oshins.

To Eleanor Odom, what now?

ELEANOR ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, Nancy, what they`re looking at now are the people closest to Isabel. That`s nothing to get upset about. That is normal in these cases just like a ransom note is kind of TV stuff, so is a stranger coming in and abducting. I mean, the odds are against that. It happens. Don`t get me wrong as we`ve seen with Polly Klaas and others. But that`s why they look at the inner circle first and that`s what they`re focusing on.

GRACE: Jason?

JASON OSHINS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I don`t disagree with Eleanor by the same token, we`re not going to just expediently go move against the father.

GRACE: You already said that Oshins.

OSHINS: It sort of looks like that from --

GRACE: We`re talking about the truth.

OSHINS: I understand that. And we`re determined --

GRACE: Your theories what may or may not come into evidence. We`re not in a courtroom. You`re sitting in a TV studio.

OSHINS: I understand.

GRACE: And we can talk about the facts. There`s nobody here to suppress the evidence, Jason Oshins, so don`t start.

OSHINS: We`re not suppressing anything, we`re trying to be as broad as we can be and not narrow our focus to just the father.

GRACE: Conti?

KAREN CONTI, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I think we need to look at what the department of family service is doing, keeping the father away from those boys. Why are they doing that, Nancy? And I think they`re doing that because the father might be trying to poison those boys into not talking and telling the truth.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Still no sign of Isabel --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 911, what`s your emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to report a missing person, my little girl. I believe she was abducted --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I got woken up by my dogs. They were barking their heads off. Their dogs were just going crazy, too.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Protective services banned Sergio from having contact with his children.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are cooperating to the fullest extent. We will not stop looking for you.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

GRACE: We are live and taking your calls.

Out to Lori in West Virginia. Hi, Lori. What`s your question?

LORI, CALLER, WEST VIRGINIA: Did the parents ever say anything about the polygraph test?

GRACE: Oh, Lori of West Virginia, you know, you really crack me up on that one.

No, they did not, and they have been asked point blank. Pull the sound, Liz.

You know, to Susan Constantine, body language expert, you have observed them over and over and over and analyzed them for us. Have you noticed how the mom a lot of times when they`re asked a question they`re always sitting together, she typically will have her arm over his arm --

SUSAN CONSTANTINE, BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT: Yes.

GRACE: A lot of times when they ask a question, she looks up at him as if -- you take it or she`s looking to him for guidance. I`m an amateur. What does that really mean?

CONSTANTINE: Well, she`s looking, you know, to see his response. And the other thing is, you`re right, that his hand is underneath hers. She is actually more in a dominant role, but when you see when he`s getting ready to sit down, he sits down very slowly. He moves -- his movements are very slow and kind of sheepish. So what I`m looking at here is when she`s looking --

GRACE: Go ahead.

CONSTANTINE: OK, when she is looking at her husband or he`s looking at his wife, he`s actually looking at her response to see how he`s going to respond.

GRACE: To Marc Harold, former APD, author of "observations of white noise." What do you think about the developments, Marc?

MARC HAROLD, FORMER OFFICER, ATLANTA PD, ATTORNEY: Well, I don`t think the boot prints much of anything. It doesn`t tell us a whole lot. I think the idea that this is about ransom, I agree. I think you have to look just like everyone has said even if you don`t like to say it, you have to look at the people in the house, the people closest to the victim, and go from there. I think at this point they`re trying to use the physical evidence to ex clues people and then try to focus in on someone. But, I don`t think they have anyone they are really focusing in on yet. They are waiting for the lab results.

GRACE: You know, back to you, with us renowned professor of forensic science, Dr. Henry Lee.

Dr. Henry Lee, I hate to bring up bad memories of that double murder that you helped get acquitted, Orenthal James Simpson, but, let`s talk about footprints again. The Bruno Mali footprints.

LEE: Right.

GRACE: Go ahead, sir.

LEE: Nancy, you remember two type of shoeprints, one is Bruno Mali, the second one, the Bruno Mali is 14, size 14, and the second type of bloody shoeprint which is parallel size 10 which clearly tells us could be two individuals.

GRACE: And I think I know who one of them is. How are we going to get footprints in this case?

LEE: This case we should look at that shoeprint near -- near -- the wall, whether or not we can find similar shoeprint inside the house or next neighbor`s or any so-called linkage theory you can link together. Then, of course, the luminol which you just mentioned is on the front seat. We don`t know it`s in the back of the seat, how big it is, yet still have enough DNA to link that.

GRACE: Luminol shows a host of substances. It doesn`t have to be blood, does it?

LEE: Definite. Definite. You are smart. But, however, in a car seat, unless somebody used detergent or peroxide to clean up the car. So that by itself is becoming important. So a lot of physical evidence we have to look at.

The last time we talk about it or when you were asked the question as trace evidence could be the key of this case. Any hairs. Nip dust particle or pollen particle can give us clue.
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GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Eleanor Odom, Karen Conti, Jason Oshins and also, Caryn Stark.

Let`s go crazy.

OK, Eleanor Odom, have you ever tried a footprint case? Because, you know, I know it`s been done, but that print could have been left by anybody.

ODOM: Well, believe it or not, Nancy, I have tried one that had a footprint in it. But, what we also had was other evidence.

GRACE: Yes.

ODOM: That`s one piece of the puzzle. And that makes it great.

GRACE: Oshins?

OSHINS: Only to disprove. Prosecutor produced it. We were able to segment it out. It had nothing to do with it.

GRACE: You were able to segment it out? Did you get an acquittal?

OSHINS: We did.

GRACE: What`s the name of the case?

OSHINS: I don`t want to discuss it in public.

GRACE: Yes. you can`t remember because it didn`t happen.

OSHINS: It`s too old, Nancy, like me.

GRACE: Karen Conti?

CONTI: I`m not finding that jury is always buy that footprint evidence. You know, one way or the other because it can be manipulated. So, again, I believe there has to be other evidence with it.

GRACE: Yes. I think you`re right. And Caryn Stark, that can be behavioral evidence.

CARYN STARK, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: When we look at this father in particular, Nancy, he`s not allowed to visit his sons. There`s a past history. He doesn`t make sense even when he`s asking for, what are your demands? There are things that are confusing to me about him.

GRACE: Well, another thing is, you know, if they passed the polygraph, then put it out there. How`s that going to hurt the investigation? Back to Wendy`s question. And if you failed it, then there`s a problem. So those are the two choices in that answer.

STARK: And if they passed they would have it out there.

GRACE: You`re right, Caryn Stark.



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Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 02:15:02 PM
Could a monkey help me look-up a business license, please, for a Robert/Rob Snyder? TIA

Curious, if he is the father (or not) to RC. 

I have nothing conclusive.

I just am not clever at digging, just lucky, sometimes.

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Robert Snyder,
or ROB Snyder?

"Lost Resorts"

Challam Bay, Washington

http://www.lostresort.net/


 ::MonkeyEek::
http://www.clallam.net/courts/index.html (a link with to many choices)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 26, 2012, 03:08:09 PM
Could a monkey help me look-up a business license, please, for a Robert/Rob Snyder? TIA

Curious, if he is the father (or not) to RC.  

I have nothing conclusive.

I just am not clever at digging, just lucky, sometimes.

 ::MonkeyEek::
Robert Snyder,
or ROB Snyder?

"Lost Resorts"

Challam Bay, Washington

http://www.lostresort.net/


 ::MonkeyEek::
http://www.clallam.net/courts/index.html (a link with to many choices)


Per the documents:  -took photos of Blackberry cell phone belonging to Robert Snyder Rodriguez (texts, phone logs,contacts)

Robert Rodriguez - facebook friends with Becky Celis

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000522266834&sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000522266834&sk=wall)


Robert Rodriguez
This is a beautiful song about my niece


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 26, 2012, 03:12:07 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=434559269904811&set=a.141007732593301.22517.100000522266834&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=434559269904811&set=a.141007732593301.22517.100000522266834&type=1&theater)

Isa with Robert's sunglasses on:

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/576295_434559269904811_100000522266834_1502984_1175176325_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 26, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
Next 90 pages
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563528/pdf-celis-2-forensics-collected-items-taken-from-home

Child Sexual Assault Unit found no bodily fluid in middle east bedroom (requested by LE).
Shoe impressions located in the dirt from alleyway located S. of residence and several shoe impressions located on top of an electrical box located directly behind the residence in same alleyway (4/21)
Photos of: Window screen from exterior southeast bedroom window, hairbrush from a clear tupperware bin on top of dresser in SE bedroom, toothbrush from E. bathroom and all taken into evidence.
Writing on closet door frame and walls in SE bedroom.
Psychic from BC states that Isa is on 2nd floor of a U shaped complex at 10th/Lenora behind Tucson Collect and AZ babies.  Located in left wing when you enter building from 10th.  Says abductors are late teens, early 20s.
Photo of Blackberry belonging to Robert Snyder Rodriguez collected as evidence.
Loretta again advised LE that sex abuser 5 doors down is responsible.  Search trash, BBQ pit, and freezer.  She also claims to hear voices of ghosts.
E. Bellevue suspicious burnt material.
Blood drawn on Sergio and Rebecca 4/24
Brian P. says he has information related to the case.  Told a bizarre story...identified the five walking on video (per him). States they are out to get him. Document name blocked out, but he states that he pulled a name from his a%$ and whatever the name is was blocked out...but, has to be related to this case.  That's odd. Also, suppose to be on medication.
This document lists a lot of the family members and there relation.
Wandering disoriented child walking--not found.
Pink tye dye shirt found on E. 17 by man.
This week was brush and bulky pick up for this neighborhood (week of disappearance).
Increase in vehicle traffic in alley.
90s minivan with tinted windows in alleyway
2001 Ford Focus with tinted windows in alleyway.
Miguel C. grandfather of Isa.
Dimitrov (sex offender) allowed search of home and initiated to LE that he was a sex offender.
K9 alerted on house on E. Cooper St (same area where dogs were barking crazily at 2am) Difficult to reach residents...I believe that damaged door to get in. Searched and found nothing.
Collect evidence in alleyway at 270 S. Stone Ave. Did not specify.
Searched grandfather's address
Kids like to play in the alley N of grandfather's residence.
Screen was "crunched in."
Robert Rodriguez gf Celeste
Bed sheet and skirt found at Downing Ln and Wilshire Dr by wash. Also found was a plastic bag of clothing articles.  All placed into evidence.
Pam E. reports seeing a girl that looked like Isa with an older W/M, 60, long thin white hair, stocky and looked like an older version of Sergio. Walmart Salon San Mateo St.  She was getting her long hair cut.
I did not understand the report on Krause (anyone else)?
House across the street has been vacant for two years.
A lot of psychics have called in (not writing all of that).
Eileen M. called in to report a man named James O'Harley or O'Larley lives on Valencia with his mom and feels he may be responsible.  Two other girls disappeared on bikes in the area.
Barbara H. observed on 4/22 at 0700 a white flatbed truck and a maroon chevy truck with camper shell close to the home...felt Isa was in camper.
Francisco R states there is a strong Satanic and Wicken following in Tucson. Cult calendar. Says Isa was taken during the time on the cult calendar to need a virgin sacrifice.




Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 26, 2012, 03:19:41 PM
Robert's dad at the Lost Resort in WA

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1050709306 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1050709306)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 03:44:25 PM
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Washington/Clallam-Bay/ozette-enterprises/65076614.aspx

Ozette Enterprises Updated 11/26/2011

Lists Robert as owner update recently.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 03:46:15 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=434559269904811&set=a.141007732593301.22517.100000522266834&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=434559269904811&set=a.141007732593301.22517.100000522266834&type=1&theater)

Isa with Robert's sunglasses on:

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/576295_434559269904811_100000522266834_1502984_1175176325_n.jpg)

Klaas,


T.Y. for the FB page of Robert Snyder.
The cutest photo I have ever seen, glorious.



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 26, 2012, 03:53:20 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=378589615510632&set=a.142696695766593.15851.100000787896099&type=3&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=378589615510632&set=a.142696695766593.15851.100000787896099&type=3&theater)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398994_382669271769333_100000787896099_933217_28587017_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576605_388725737830353_100000787896099_948911_764241068_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530188_378589615510632_100000787896099_924223_263705828_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/547022_350055315030729_100000787896099_859681_1759059775_n.jpg)

On top of the Stratosphere

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/23644_104611976241732_100000787896099_58949_1893345_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 03:57:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wm-Snyder/1050709306?sk=photos#!/profile.php?id=1050709306&sk=info

Klaas,

I am a little bewildered.  RWS has "worked" at... 

Does this mean that he is no longer at the resort place? 

Thanks for your patience :)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 04:06:43 PM
Did LT check in Washington?  That is where I would check the DOT cams and see if the vehicles (the neighbors saw in the alley), are located on the Washington, DOT cams.

It is likely the DOT cams are retaped...but I would sniff around in WA.

RC was very cocky, telling the press, "go for it", "go for it"....."go for it"

I believe, RC does not think LT would go all over the country, looking for ISA.

These are my too many opinions. :)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 26, 2012, 04:27:48 PM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wm-Snyder/1050709306?sk=photos#!/profile.php?id=1050709306&sk=info

Klaas,

I am a little bewildered.  RWS has "worked" at...  

Does this mean that he is no longer at the resort place?  

Thanks for your patience :)

No I think that's where he works and is probably the owner. I "think" his son is, Robert Snyder Rodriguez (Isa's uncle) is the one who lives near the Celis's in the Tucson area.  I think RWS might possibly Rebecca's dad or uncle.  

My bet is the phone that was found belongs to the younger Robert, the one in Tucson. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 05:16:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wm-Snyder/1050709306?sk=photos#!/profile.php?id=1050709306&sk=info

Klaas,

I am a little bewildered.  RWS has "worked" at...  

Does this mean that he is no longer at the resort place?  

Thanks for your patience :)

No I think that's where he works and is probably the owner. I "think" his son is, Robert Snyder Rodriguez (Isa's uncle) is the one who lives near the Celis's in the Tucson area.  I think RWS might possibly Rebecca's dad or uncle.  

My bet is the phone that was found belongs to the younger Robert, the one in Tucson. 
Uncle/Nephew
   
From: Rob Snyder
   
Tribute: Uncle Al was The Patriarch of All The Dibler Family for over 65 years when he was just a boy. His Passing has left a void that can never be filled again in my heart and many other. All My Love to The Family and Families



10 from the bottom of the link (please, no red writing)


http://www.asimas.com/ASIMAS/sharpfuneralhomes/TributeView.jsp?domain_id=254&deceased_id=185087





Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 05:23:54 PM

This gentleman must be Grandpa to RC.

Hat tip to VITO

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/isabel-celis-audio.ht

Possible Grandfather to RC

Robert K. Snyder, 81, of Lake Montezuma, Arizona, formerly of Douglas, Arizona, passed away on November 21, 2009.

He was born in Jackson, Michigan, on October 22, 1928. He was an accountant for Raytel products in Michigan, California and Arizona for 56 years.

He is preceded in death by his first wife, Shirley, and his wife of the past 18 years, Barbara.

He is survived by children Pamela (Jerry) of Florida, son Robert of Washington, stepchildren (I removed the names of step children) 19 grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren.
--
2009 Pamela is daughter of Robert K. She married (now divorced) Jerry, Justin is their son. Robert son of Robert K named living in Washington State, is Rebecca's father.

Rebecca's marriage license to Sergio, her maiden name Snyder.

There is a twist to this, her mother her maiden name is Romo, she married Snyder, divorced Snyder, and is remarried as Rodriquez.

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives

Robert K. Synder 81

1.  Douglas Dispatch (AZ) - November 25, 2009

Robert K. Snyder October 22, 1928 - November 21, 2009
 
 Robert K. Snyder, 81, of Lake Montezuma, Arizona, formerly of Douglas, Arizona, passed away on November 21, 2009.He was born in Jackson, Michigan
Same Obit just I have a Link:)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 05:26:53 PM
http://www.lostresort.net/times.htm

Photo of Rob Snyder.

It did not have properties....or I would have lifted it.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 26, 2012, 05:29:20 PM
http://www.lostresort.net/times.htm

Photo of Rob Snyder.

It did not have properties....or I would have lifted it.


(http://www.lostresort.net/IMG_1147-thumb.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
http://www.lostresort.net/times.htm

Photo of Rob Snyder.

It did not have properties....or I would have lifted it.


(http://www.lostresort.net/IMG_1147-thumb.jpg)

Thank-you, Muffy.  This should be Dad, to RC...please, correct me if I am wrong.
 
Name: Rob Snyder
s ::snipping2::
   
Relation: Uncle/Nephew
   
From: Rob Snyder
   
Tribute: Uncle Al was The Patriarch of All The Dibler Family for over 65 years when he was just a boy. His Passing has left a void that can never be filled again in my heart and many other. All My Love to The Family and Families

(Ten up on the Link)

http://www.asimas.com/ASIMAS/sharpfuneralhomes/TributeView.jsp?domain_id=254&deceased_id=185087


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 26, 2012, 07:04:33 PM
Yes, i believe Rob Snyder is Rebecca Celis's dad. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 26, 2012, 07:09:51 PM
But it's Robert Snyder Rodriguez who's phone they looked at:

Robert Snyder Rodriguez is Rebecca's brother I believe, Isa's uncle.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/isabel-celis-audio.html (http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/isabel-celis-audio.html)

Rebecca's marriage license to Sergio, her maiden name Snyder.
There is a twist to this, her mother her maiden name is Romo, she married Snyder, divorced Snyder, and is remarried as Rodriquez.
Raytel Corp comes up as associated with the Celis's current address. Company established in 1944, Douglas AZ. Now I know why, it is Rebecca's Grandfather that was the accountant and secretary.

Rebecca's Brother, she to speak of brothers plural, 4/20 evening, she did not know where they were that night, they to be out, out doing their own thing.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2012, 07:33:14 PM
But it's Robert Snyder Rodriguez who's phone they looked at:

Robert Snyder Rodriguez is Rebecca's brother I believe, Isa's uncle.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/isabel-celis-audio.html (http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/isabel-celis-audio.html)

Rebecca's marriage license to Sergio, her maiden name Snyder.
There is a twist to this, her mother her maiden name is Romo, she married Snyder, divorced Snyder, and is remarried as Rodriquez.
Raytel Corp comes up as associated with the Celis's current address. Company established in 1944, Douglas AZ. Now I know why, it is Rebecca's Grandfather that was the accountant and secretary.

Rebecca's Brother, she to speak of brothers plural, 4/20 evening, she did not know where they were that night, they to be out, out doing their own thing.


Thank-you for confirming, Dad.


 ::MonkeyEek::
Would you agree this may be the c(ell phone-facebook), brother, RS?


This is Vito's work:

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/isabel-celis-audio.html

Her one brother found online is Robert Snyder Rodriquez. His professional background accredited with HIPPA laws, he is a Physician's Assistant.


http://www.hipaaspace.com/Medical_Billing/Coding/National_Provider_Identifier/Codes/NPI_1427343953.aspx

1427343953 NPI number — ROBERT SNYDER RODRIGUEZ PA


http://www.hipaaspace.com/Medical_Billing/Coding/National_Provider_Identifier/Codes/NPI_1427343953.aspx

Thank-you,
Seahorse


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: sassifrass on May 26, 2012, 09:49:21 PM
seahorse: This is a pic of her grandfathers grave. GF is Robert K Snyder. Grandmother is Barbara Dell Snyder. NOTE: I turn the pic to see better viewing.

(http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/sass2heart/GFtoIsabel.jpg)


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165688556800740&set=a.100303076672622.461.100000787896099&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165688556800740&set=a.100303076672622.461.100000787896099&type=1&theater)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 12:05:05 AM
I have no plans of typing the last three or four sections of the released documents, but I do want to point out things that stuck out to me.  It is easier to reference them in here, I think.

This run in with Nathan Mc...the owner of the green VW Jetta stood out to me.  The officer stated that he lives close to the Celis home.  So, Nathan was on 14th St, East of Craycroft, north of the park at 1015 searching the washes and tunnels for Isa (This was two hours after LE was called).  He stated that he checked the washes to the north and the south.  Then, he abruptly said he had to go eat breakfast and quickly left.

Mr. L said that he noticed a suspicious man in the alley near his home at about 9-930.  He was sitting on the electric box. 

In regards to the boot prints found on top of the electric box, it also states there were several boot prints five feet south of the electric box and also on the gas meter on the west side of the house.  The boot is Wolverine brand.

Sergio called the baseball coach that morning and said that they couldn't make it to the game because Isa was missing.

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563529/pdf-celis-3-details-on-air-search-boot-prints-found-at-home


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 12:13:35 AM
Hector Rodriguez and Robert Snyder Rodriguez had their truck (one truck, both owners) searched with a search warrant (without prior notification).  Maybe that was the Silverado that was listed earlier? 

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563532/pdf-celis-4-found-pillow-possible-sightings


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2012, 07:33:45 AM
seahorse: This is a pic of her grandfathers grave. GF is Robert K Snyder. Grandmother is Barbara Dell Snyder. NOTE: I turn the pic to see better viewing.

(http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/sass2heart/GFtoIsabel.jpg)


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165688556800740&set=a.100303076672622.461.100000787896099&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165688556800740&set=a.100303076672622.461.100000787896099&type=1&theater)

Thank-you, Sassi!



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 08:57:43 AM
There are some interesting characters that go to the police...I'm in awe!  SN:  I wonder why they didn't inform Mr. Rodriguez that his truck was being taken in?  That is interesting to me.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 09:16:16 AM
Danny C. went into Famous Footwear and told the clerk that JM owed money and that is why Isa was taken.  He stated that JM lived with the family at some point (made it sound like present tense).  When LE questioned him about what he said to the clerk, he said that he didn't say it.  He did say that was rumored however.  He also stated that JM moved there from Florida about six months ago and did not have a job.  Thinks he could be dealing drugs. SN:  Danny carries a gun everywhere in the small of his back.

Finally on the final 82 pages. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 09:34:28 AM
This section acknowledges Rebecca leaving at 0647 and Sergio waking up at 0713 and actually getting out of the bed at 0754...called Rebecca that Isa was missing at 0805...and called 911 at 0813 and unit was on scene at 0820. 

S. Wilmot storage unit was search (with warrant).  40 CDs taken.


http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563539/pdf-celis-6-sandals-found-in-park-dna-from-family


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 10:19:03 AM
I didn't see anything regarding surveillance from the business next door.  Maybe I missed it.  I did begin to scan for major standouts at some point.  Maybe they just didn't release that.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2012, 10:35:11 AM
labubske

Thanks

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Janet


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 10:50:07 AM
labubske

Thanks

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Janet

You're welcome, Janet.  By PDF 3, I was ready to just type the main points...ha.  I wanted to type all of the search areas too...but the same ones are repeated so much yet, in different ways that I gave up. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2012, 10:51:00 AM
Hector Rodriguez and Robert Snyder Rodriguez had their truck (one truck, both owners) searched with a search warrant (without prior notification).  Maybe that was the Silverado that was listed earlier? 

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563532/pdf-celis-4-found-pillow-possible-sightings

Could the basis of the search warrant have something to do with the towel that was seized at the getgo as evidence from the Silverado?

Janet

+++++



http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor

From the first 98 pages:Noted vehicles:

2003 Blue Toyota Corolla
2000 Maroon 4 door Lexus RX300
1988 Red Acura
2008 2 door extra-cab Chevrolet Silverado pick-up

Blood stain possibly found on driver’s seat Corolla

Beer can, knife, pair of black gloves, search warrant paper work on passenger seat, and towel found in Silverado. Towel was taken in as evidence.

<Respectfully snipped by Tamikosmom?



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2012, 11:11:01 AM
I didn't see anything regarding surveillance from the business next door.  Maybe I missed it.  I did begin to scan for major standouts at some point.  Maybe they just didn't release that.

Maybe the surprise search warrant had something to do with what the Moore surviellance footage captured in regards to the activity encompassing the Celis residences on the night/morning Isabel went missing.

I believe that this surveillance footage is the smoking gun to solving the case.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Police Examine Security Camera Video in Isabel Celis Disappearance
Aired April 27, 2012 - 20:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE: What did you see?

RICK MOORE, MOORE SECURITY SERVICES: What did I see?

GRACE: Yes.

MOORE: You know, we saw -- what we see is a lot of vehicles, Nancy. We did see some people coming through the alleyway. The cameras are trained right onto the alley, which leads right from where we`re standing right now. So we see cars coming in and out, a lot of vehicles, makes, models, color, things of that nature. And I`m sure that`s what the police are using to investigate it.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/27/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
labubske

Thanks

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Janet

You're welcome, Janet.  By PDF 3, I was ready to just type the main points...ha.  I wanted to type all of the search areas too...but the same ones are repeated so much yet, in different ways that I gave up. 

What's PDF 3?

Janet


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 11:46:48 AM
labubske

Thanks

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Janet

You're welcome, Janet.  By PDF 3, I was ready to just type the main points...ha.  I wanted to type all of the search areas too...but the same ones are repeated so much yet, in different ways that I gave up. 

What's PDF 3?

Janet

It's how they are sectioned off...1-6 I believe.  So the first PDF (Portable Document Format) is the first 98 pages...and so on.  I will go back and find the link that lists them all...I closed it down.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wm-Snyder/1050709306#!/profile.php?id=100000522266834&sk=photos (https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wm-Snyder/1050709306#!/profile.php?id=100000522266834&sk=photos)

Is this THE uncle?  

I would like to be crystal clear, if this is R.S.R.- Cell phone / Hector/car thing

Thank-you

https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wm-Snyder/1050709306#!/profile.php?id=1050709306&sk=friends&v=friends  (Klaas found this, yesterday)

(Uncle) Robert is a friend of ...RWS (RB father)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Blink34 on May 27, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
On National Weed Day, Sabrina Celis posted this on her facebook, and without naming names, several friends of Mr. Mastromarino (and he included) have had drug arrests.

As we saw yesterday, his own niece thinks he is dealing drugs.  I have no idea if that is part of what happened to Isa, but I think it is fair to say that some of this was going on around her.

(http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww116/BlinkOnCrime/Blink%20On%20Crime/For%20Posting/SabrinaCelisweedheart.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2012, 02:14:11 PM


The order that I gleaned for SC.

https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Rodriguez/100000522266834#!/profile.php?id=1050709306&sk=friends&v=friends


https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Rodriguez/100000522266834#!/profile.php?id=100000787896099


https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Rodriguez/100000522266834#!/profile.php?id=100000787896099&sk=friends&v=friends


https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Rodriguez/100000522266834#!/profile.php?id=664347997



Sabrina Celis

::MonkeyEek::look under "photos" (maybe, three pictures, altogether)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: sassifrass on May 27, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
Hector Rodriguez and Robert Snyder Rodriguez had their truck (one truck, both owners) searched with a search warrant (without prior notification).  Maybe that was the Silverado that was listed earlier? 

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563532/pdf-celis-4-found-pillow-possible-sightings

BBM

Roberts truck: A Chevy Silverado.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/26530_114778475216227_100000522266834_186863_1085833_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/26530_114778471882894_100000522266834_186862_79976_n.jpg)


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=114778471882894&set=a.114777115216363.14434.100000522266834&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=114778471882894&set=a.114777115216363.14434.100000522266834&type=3&theater)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: StarMonkey on May 27, 2012, 04:21:22 PM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: StarMonkey on May 27, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Well this is the Sabrina Celis that is connected to rob as a friend on this link is it the same one as the above FB and pic mentioned ? I couldn't see her FB
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=35189224-BC8E-420E-A12C-3C03C729BCD2


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: sassifrass on May 27, 2012, 04:42:45 PM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.

Hi Starmonkey!

IMO, I don't think it's the same guy. Could be wrong.

(http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/sass2heart/Rob2.jpg) (http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad12/sass2heart/RobertR.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 27, 2012, 04:43:56 PM
On National Weed Day, Sabrina Celis posted this on her facebook, and without naming names, several friends of Mr. Mastromarino (and he included) have had drug arrests.

As we saw yesterday, his own niece thinks he is dealing drugs.  I have no idea if that is part of what happened to Isa, but I think it is fair to say that some of this was going on around her.

(http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww116/BlinkOnCrime/Blink%20On%20Crime/For%20Posting/SabrinaCelisweedheart.jpg)

Yes, without a doubt. :(


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: sassifrass on May 27, 2012, 04:47:27 PM
Oops! Forgot the links to the pics. So sorry.

http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240 (http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=218870804806993&set=a.218867421473998.69492.100000522266834&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=218870804806993&set=a.218867421473998.69492.100000522266834&type=3&theater)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: melisb on May 27, 2012, 07:04:16 PM
Back in my pre-child, semi-wild child ways I can say that we might have called that very high(no pun intended)grade, red haired bud.  If the Celis' are importing/selling/trafficking that kind of MaryJ then there is no telling what kind of people they have been or are dealing with.  I would not consider them seller but maybe the midman that gets it and distributes it to one or two people who then break it down for distribution.  Remember the white man and his son that were spotted on camera and by LE going in the gate door and poss into the Celis' home?  I thought they were going in to rob/look for drugs or remove some type of evidence.  I think they know something about Sergio and Becky!  Have a look at the video of them being stopped by LE, they were up to no good!  Sorry, don't have link on hand.  It's been given to me too recently by a very sweet Monkey.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on May 27, 2012, 07:20:30 PM
Back in my pre-child, semi-wild child ways I can say that we might have called that very high(no pun intended)grade, red haired bud.  If the Celis' are importing/selling/trafficking that kind of MaryJ then there is no telling what kind of people they have been or are dealing with.  I would not consider them seller but maybe the midman that gets it and distributes it to one or two people who then break it down for distribution.  Remember the white man and his son that were spotted on camera and by LE going in the gate door and poss into the Celis' home?  I thought they were going in to rob/look for drugs or remove some type of evidence.  I think they know something about Sergio and Becky!  Have a look at the video of them being stopped by LE, they were up to no good!  Sorry, don't have link on hand.  It's been given to me too recently by a very sweet Monkey.

She is be a complete idiot to post that on her FB page!  I know that's harsh but they volunteer with children and have kids of their own.

You have to wonder.  That said, drugs do tend to attract unsavory sorts who look to make money in all kinds of illegal ways.

I still think the circumstances are too far fetched for this to be a stranger abducation.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: melisb on May 27, 2012, 07:49:50 PM
Not saying this is the case and I would never, ever post something like that but there are quite a few folks who believe that smoking pot is their "God Given" right.  Not judging them at all but even when I did smoke it I would never want people to know I did it nor did I ever glorify that kind of behavior. That should never be posted in the public eye.  Just think, what if you knew some nut that did know where you live might wanna get in your home to look for something like that!  People aren't careful in what they say, do or post on a social website now a days!  Leads to lots of problems putting yourself out there like that!


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2012, 08:34:14 PM
Not saying this is the case and I would never, ever post something like that but there are quite a few folks who believe that smoking pot is their "God Given" right.  Not judging them at all but even when I did smoke it I would never want people to know I did it nor did I ever glorify that kind of behavior. That should never be posted in the public eye.  Just think, what if you knew some nut that did know where you live might wanna get in your home to look for something like that!  People aren't careful in what they say, do or post on a social website now a days!  Leads to lots of problems putting yourself out there like that!

Good evening Monkey's,

Melisb,

Some kid told his mom 'tomatoe plants' were growing in the yard. :) (1970)   








Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2012, 08:39:47 PM
http://www.usa-people-search.com/Results.aspx?find=sabrina%20celis,%20tuscon,%20az

I did not find a S.C. in Arizona, only Cali. 

Does she have another first name, or last?  Maybe, a nick name, "Pot"?  Haha.

It is a joke, I am silly.






Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 27, 2012, 10:19:28 PM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Well this is the Sabrina Celis that is connected to rob as a friend on this link is it the same one as the above FB and pic mentioned ? I couldn't see her FB
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=35189224-BC8E-420E-A12C-3C03C729BCD2

Looks like a different Robert and different Sabrina to me.  The other Sabrina is much younger.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: cw618 on May 27, 2012, 10:25:23 PM
wow thanks for the links to pdf reports,well my cuz boy lives about 4 blocks out,
for  2 wks, he kept hearing, about isa on the news,he takes a drive by,and he says,
there is no way in hill,that a stranger,breached that wall and got lucky and found
a little girls BR,someone  knew her and her room  and took her, he thinks it was
someone who knew her and the house layout,like fam or a friend of the fam
im thinking the same,the place looks like a small fort, with it being close by, and
 though his kids are older, he is still being cautious


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: StarMonkey on May 27, 2012, 11:23:31 PM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Well this is the Sabrina Celis that is connected to rob as a friend on this link is it the same one as the above FB and pic mentioned ? I couldn't see her FB
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=35189224-BC8E-420E-A12C-3C03C729BCD2

Looks like a different Robert and different Sabrina to me.  The other Sabrina is much younger.
Ok thanks I didn't know what she looked like. It was something I came accross.. Thanks for clarifying :)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Well this is the Sabrina Celis that is connected to rob as a friend on this link is it the same one as the above FB and pic mentioned ? I couldn't see her FB
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=35189224-BC8E-420E-A12C-3C03C729BCD2

Looks like a different Robert and different Sabrina to me.  The other Sabrina is much younger.


Ok thanks I didn't know what she looked like. It was something I came accross.. Thanks for clarifying :)


This is the Sabrina Celis related to Isa.  I believe she is 22ish:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=664347997

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/534338_10150862159872998_664347997_9644930_1465413893_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 10:21:13 AM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Well this is the Sabrina Celis that is connected to rob as a friend on this link is it the same one as the above FB and pic mentioned ? I couldn't see her FB
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=35189224-BC8E-420E-A12C-3C03C729BCD2

Looks like a different Robert and different Sabrina to me.  The other Sabrina is much younger.
Ok thanks I didn't know what she looked like. It was something I came accross.. Thanks for clarifying :)


RLC B. 1976, makes her about 36? IF this is her...

http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

CL0033825  3  CHILD/VULNERABLE ADULT ABUSE  4/22/2003  COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY 


M-1041-CR-2122872  REBECCA CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85749  Tucson Municipal Court 


M-1041-TR-4017680  REBECCA L CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85747  Tucson Municipal Court 
M-1041-TR-5096756  REBECCA L CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85747  Tucson Municipal Court 





Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 10:27:21 AM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Well this is the Sabrina Celis that is connected to rob as a friend on this link is it the same one as the above FB and pic mentioned ? I couldn't see her FB
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=35189224-BC8E-420E-A12C-3C03C729BCD2

Looks like a different Robert and different Sabrina to me.  The other Sabrina is much younger.
Ok thanks I didn't know what she looked like. It was something I came accross.. Thanks for clarifying :)


RLC B. 1976, makes her about 36? IF this is her...

http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

CL0033825  3  CHILD/VULNERABLE ADULT ABUSE  4/22/2003  COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY 


M-1041-CR-2122872  REBECCA CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85749  Tucson Municipal Court 


M-1041-TR-4017680  REBECCA L CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85747  Tucson Municipal Court 
M-1041-TR-5096756  REBECCA L CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85747  Tucson Municipal Court 





http://radaris.com/p/Sabrina/Celis/AZ/


This puzzle piece seems to fit with the records. My Opinion.

Sabrina Celis, 35

Tucson, AZ

Yolanda Celis, Miguel A Celis, Eva R Celis, Yolanda Nellson, Michael A Celis, Maria Elena Lukasiewicz 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 28, 2012, 10:29:11 AM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Well this is the Sabrina Celis that is connected to rob as a friend on this link is it the same one as the above FB and pic mentioned ? I couldn't see her FB
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=35189224-BC8E-420E-A12C-3C03C729BCD2

Looks like a different Robert and different Sabrina to me.  The other Sabrina is much younger.
Ok thanks I didn't know what she looked like. It was something I came accross.. Thanks for clarifying :)


RLC B. 1976, makes her about 36? IF this is her...

http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

CL0033825  3  CHILD/VULNERABLE ADULT ABUSE  4/22/2003  COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY 


M-1041-CR-2122872  REBECCA CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85749  Tucson Municipal Court 


M-1041-TR-4017680  REBECCA L CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85747  Tucson Municipal Court 
M-1041-TR-5096756  REBECCA L CELIS  DEFENDANT  10/1976  TUCSON, AZ 85747  Tucson Municipal Court 





 ::MonkeyEek:: Interesting to say the least.  So, this was from 2003...I wonder what this is all about?  Maybe Mrs. Celis isn't as innocent as I was thinking...I would like to know the details before I make an assumption, I guess.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/154854365.html (http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/154854365.html)

Missing: Isabel Celis
Chief Villasenor: "We will find out"
Tucson Police hopes for that big break in the Celis case

CREATED May. 27, 2012

 ::snipping2::

At the forefront of the drama surrounding the case, the face of six-year-old Isabel. Officers have scoured every corner of the city, including the Los Reales landfill. And just last week the more than 550 pages of police reports show the tips have come in, but VIllasenor says the right person hasn't called yet.

"It may be someone with this weighing on their conscience," Villasenor said. "They may know something or know someone who does and they're fighting the urge to call us. Stop fighting it and just call."

Manpower is now down to 30 detectives plus personnel. No more press conferences on the horizon either, so 9OYS wanted to know: what does this mean for the future of the investigation? Has whoever done this baffled, even stumped TPD? Chief Villasenor has a message to whoever abducted Isabel.

"I wouldn't rest comfortably," Villasenor said. "I've got very talented, very dedicated people working on this all the time. We will find out."


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 28, 2012, 10:30:46 AM
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/154854365.html (http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/154854365.html)

Missing: Isabel Celis
Chief Villasenor: "We will find out"
Tucson Police hopes for that big break in the Celis case

CREATED May. 27, 2012

 ::snipping2::

At the forefront of the drama surrounding the case, the face of six-year-old Isabel. Officers have scoured every corner of the city, including the Los Reales landfill. And just last week the more than 550 pages of police reports show the tips have come in, but VIllasenor says the right person hasn't called yet.

"It may be someone with this weighing on their conscience," Villasenor said. "They may know something or know someone who does and they're fighting the urge to call us. Stop fighting it and just call."

Manpower is now down to 30 detectives plus personnel. No more press conferences on the horizon either, so 9OYS wanted to know: what does this mean for the future of the investigation? Has whoever done this baffled, even stumped TPD? Chief Villasenor has a message to whoever abducted Isabel.

"I wouldn't rest comfortably," Villasenor said. "I've got very talented, very dedicated people working on this all the time. We will find out."


I love Chiefs' confidence...makes me hopeful!


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2012, 10:34:58 AM
http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx (http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx)

Case Number:   M-1041-CR-2122872    
Title:   ST OF AZ VS CELIS REBECCA   Category:   Criminal
Court:   Tucson Municipal Court   Filing Date:   12/3/2002
Judge:   HON EUGENE H HAYS   Disposition Date:   4/22/2003
REBECCA CELIS    DEFENDANT  -  D 1    Date of Birth: 10/1976
Citation   Count   Description   Disp. Date   Disposition
CL0033825    1    DUI; ALCOHOL DRUGS TOXIC VAPOR OR COMBINATION    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
CL0033825    2    LIQ IN VEHICLE CONSUME/POSSESS    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
CL0033825    3    CHILD/VULNERABLE ADULT ABUSE    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY



My guess is DUI with child in the car


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2012, 10:40:00 AM
http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx

M-1041-TR-97298861    SERGIO D CELIS    DEFENDANT    12/1970    TUCSON, AZ 85711    Tucson Municipal Court
M-1041-TR-98220350    SERGIO DAVID CELIS    DEFENDANT    12/1970    TUCSON, AZ 85711    Tucson Municipal Court
M-1041-TR-5021372    SERGIO DAVID CELIS    DEFENDANT    12/1970    TUCSON, AZ 85747    Tucson Municipal Court
J-1003-TR-200600860    SERGIO DAVID CELIS    DEFENDANT    12/1970    TUCSON, AZ 587475193    Ajo Justice
M-1041-TR-7107906    SERGIO DAVID CELIS    DEFENDANT    12/1970    TUCSON, AZ 85747    Tucson Municipal Court
M-1041-TR-11015469    SERGIO DAVID CELIS    DEFENDANT    12/1970    TUCSON, AZ 85711    Tucson Municipal Court
M-1041-CR-12033022    SERGIO DAVID CELIS    DEFENDANT    12/1970    TUCSON, AZ 85711    Tucson Municipal Court
M-1041-CR-12033020    SERGIO DAVID CELIS    DEFENDANT    12/1970    TUCSON, AZ 85711    Tucson Municipal Court
NOTES:


Case Number:   M-1041-TR-97298861    
Title:   STATE OF ARIZONA VS CELIS   Category:   Traffic
Court:   Tucson Municipal Court   Filing Date:   12/26/1997
Judge:   HON ROBERT L CASTILLO   Disposition Date:   7/8/1998
SERGIO D CELIS    DEFENDANT  -  D 1    Date of Birth: 12/1970
Citation   Count   Description   Disp. Date   Disposition
C05682337    1    DUI; ALCOHOL DRUGS TOXIC VAPOR OR COMBINATION    7/8/1998    COMPL DISMISSED BY COURT
C05682337    2    LOCAL CHARGE    7/8/1998    PLEA GUILTY/RESP SENT IMPOSED

Most recent charge:

Case Number:   M-1041-CR-12033020    
Title:   ST OF AZ VS CELIS SERGIO DAVID   Category:   Criminal
Court:   Tucson Municipal Court   Filing Date:   4/19/2012
Judge:   HON NIKKI A CHAYET   Disposition Date:   
SERGIO DAVID CELIS    DEFENDANT  -  D 1    Date of Birth: 12/1970
Citation   Count   Description   Disp. Date   Disposition
QX0067820    1    LOCAL CHARGE       
QX0067820    2    LOCAL CHARGE       
QX0067820    3    LOCAL CHARGE




Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 12:06:40 PM

Hello Monkey,


I am bewildered...is she from Redlands, California?  Redlands HS, CA?

Photos different on her FB, one looks very latin, and the other, blondish.

Who does she belong to?  Where the Hill, did SC guaduate?  Music school, where, CA?

I passed the mouse over one photo.  I believe, I found a MS (private).

http://www.myspace.com/207632509/stream

(The fouth photo, one I passed the mouse on and found
T.jpg, myspace, sabrina celis

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gs_mss=celis+tuc&pq=sabrina+celis,&cp=20&gs_id=p&xhr=t&q=SABRINA+CELIS,TUCSON&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=819&bih=457&wrapid=tljp1338216504265212&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=OZDDT-CwCM6N6QGI45S0Cg#um=1&hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=T.jpg%2C+myspace%2C+sabrina+celis&oq=T.jpg%2C+myspace%2C+sabrina+celis&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=img.12...33985.56266.0.58235.29.7.0.22.0.0.204.767.3j2j1.6.0...0.0.pHOPFkD9XTg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=e026f9e6b8a976c0&biw=1024&bih=571


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2012, 12:43:08 PM

Hello Monkey,


I am bewildered...is she from Redlands, California?  Redlands HS, CA?

Photos different on her FB, one looks very latin, and the other, blondish.

Who does she belong to?  Where the Hill, did SC guaduate?  Music school, where, CA?

I passed the mouse over one photo.  I believe, I found a MS (private).

http://www.myspace.com/207632509/stream

(The fouth photo, one I passed the mouse on and found
T.jpg, myspace, sabrina celis

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gs_mss=celis+tuc&pq=sabrina+celis,&cp=20&gs_id=p&xhr=t&q=SABRINA+CELIS,TUCSON&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=819&bih=457&wrapid=tljp1338216504265212&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=OZDDT-CwCM6N6QGI45S0Cg#um=1&hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=T.jpg%2C+myspace%2C+sabrina+celis&oq=T.jpg%2C+myspace%2C+sabrina+celis&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=img.12...33985.56266.0.58235.29.7.0.22.0.0.204.767.3j2j1.6.0...0.0.pHOPFkD9XTg&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=e026f9e6b8a976c0&biw=1024&bih=571


What the google image search you did was find ALL Sabrina Celis images (in other words anyone named Sebrina Celis).  Not all belonging to the same Sabrina Celis. 

YES the Sabrina Celis that is related to ISA went to Redlands HS and currently lives in California (I believe) BUT she is originally from Tucson.  This Myspace is correct and this Facebook is correct.  Looks like she has some blonde highlights in her otherwise naturally dark brown hair:

http://www.myspace.com/207632509 (http://www.myspace.com/207632509)

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=664347997 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=664347997)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Thank-you, Klaas,

Who is Alex Celis?  He is Creepy, IMO. He has no info.

https://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Celis/664347997#!/profile.php?id=1800379860&sk=info

https://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Celis/664347997#!/profile.php?id=1800379860&sk=wall

RECENT ACTIVITY
"I Just Want Too Thank All Of Yu Guys So Much For All The Dedicated Help And Prayers For My Baby Cousin Isabel.. Yu Don't Have To Be In Tucson Too Help, No Matter Where Yu Are In The World Just Keep Spreading The Word And Continue To Pray As Much As Yu Can.. Every Single Prayer Counts God Hears Us And He Is Leading Us On The Path To Bring Isabel Back Home To Her Parents And Family.. We All Love Yu Isa!! && We Will Never Give Up Searching For Yu Until Yu Are Back Home Were Yu Belong..
#BringIsaHome" on Find Isabel Celis's timeline.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 01:22:52 PM
http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098

Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis

 ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 01:40:31 PM



Michael Celis
Michael A Celis
Mike Celis   50    
 
Corinth, TX
Loma Linda, CA
Colton, CA
La Crescenta, CA
Tucson, AZ


Amy Lynn Celis
Eva R Celis
Miguel Gumilan Celis
Sergio D Celis

Amy Lynn Celis is 46, is she a sister, to Michael, Sergio?

http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=name&qf=amy&qmi=&qn=celis&qcs=tucson%2C+arizona&focusfirst=1

https://www.facebook.com/people/Sabrina-Celis/664347997#!/amy.l.celis


Where does Sabrina Celis, fit into the puzzle?  Thank-you. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2012, 02:28:36 PM
http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098

Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis

 ::MonkeyEek::



Looks like Alex Celis is a HS student in Justin, TX.  There are a bunch of Celis's living there likely related to Isa's dad.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2012, 02:33:44 PM
Pray for Isabel
Posted on 01. May, 2012
by Erika Pedroza


The Messenger office has fielded a few calls with story tips for This Justin, a sister paper birthed last week for the residents of our Denton County neighbor.

Last week, I took a phone call from a Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis. His cousin, 6-year-old Isabel Celis was presumably kidnapped from her Tucson, Ariz., home two weeks ago.

His uncle put her to bed and when he went to wake her up the next morning, she was gone. As of Tuesday afternoon she had not been found.

Because Alex is a Justin resident, the story is more suitable for the Justin paper, and reporter Mary Wendell is working on a story for the newspaper published biweekly.

However, he petitioned prayers for the recovery of his “adorable baby cousin.

<snipped>

http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098


Welcome to the first This Justin
Published Friday, April 27, 2012


http://www.thisjustintexas.com/welcome-to-the-first-this-justin/


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: BabsKats on May 28, 2012, 02:40:47 PM
Pray for Isabel
Posted on 01. May, 2012
by Erika Pedroza


The Messenger office has fielded a few calls with story tips for This Justin, a sister paper birthed last week for the residents of our Denton County neighbor.

Last week, I took a phone call from a Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis. His cousin, 6-year-old Isabel Celis was presumably kidnapped from her Tucson, Ariz., home two weeks ago.

His uncle put her to bed and when he went to wake her up the next morning, she was gone. As of Tuesday afternoon she had not been found.

Because Alex is a Justin resident, the story is more suitable for the Justin paper, and reporter Mary Wendell is working on a story for the newspaper published biweekly.

However, he petitioned prayers for the recovery of his “adorable baby cousin.

<snipped>

http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098


Welcome to the first This Justin
Published Friday, April 27, 2012


http://www.thisjustintexas.com/welcome-to-the-first-this-justin/

This is where I live (Wise County), wonder if LE has checked in this area.  Guess I'll have to be more observant when I'm at Wallyworld as its the only grocery/shopping in the county.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 02:49:12 PM
http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098

Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis

 ::MonkeyEek::



Looks like Alex Celis is a HS student in Justin, TX.  There are a bunch of Celis's living there likely related to Isa's dad.

Thank-you, Klaas,

Moonshine, says:

A little side note: My daughter went to High School with Sergio Celis in Tucson. He went by his middle name then--David Celis.
 
Sun May 13, 11:30:00 PM EDT
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2012/05/has-isabel-celis-body-been-found.html

 ::MonkeyEek::
Maybe, he is under David Celis, may explain why I cannot locate any HS/College, info.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 03:06:36 PM
Pray for Isabel
Posted on 01. May, 2012
by Erika Pedroza


The Messenger office has fielded a few calls with story tips for This Justin, a sister paper birthed last week for the residents of our Denton County neighbor.

Last week, I took a phone call from a Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis. His cousin, 6-year-old Isabel Celis was presumably kidnapped from her Tucson, Ariz., home two weeks ago.

His uncle put her to bed and when he went to wake her up the next morning, she was gone. As of Tuesday afternoon she had not been found.

Because Alex is a Justin resident, the story is more suitable for the Justin paper, and reporter Mary Wendell is working on a story for the newspaper published biweekly.

However, he petitioned prayers for the recovery of his “adorable baby cousin.

<snipped>

http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098


Welcome to the first This Justin
Published Friday, April 27, 2012


http://www.thisjustintexas.com/welcome-to-the-first-this-justin/

This is where I live (Wise County), wonder if LE has checked in this area.  Guess I'll have to be more observant when I'm at Wallyworld as its the only grocery/shopping in the county.

Wallyworld  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Babs, Janet and all Monkeys,


Do you think Sergio David Celis would have a resume on-line? Maybe in Spanish, or Italian?
I cannot find school with his name.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on May 28, 2012, 03:07:55 PM
Someone commented on an early news article that they had attended hs with Sergio and he used to go by David. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
Pray for Isabel
Posted on 01. May, 2012
by Erika Pedroza


The Messenger office has fielded a few calls with story tips for This Justin, a sister paper birthed last week for the residents of our Denton County neighbor.

Last week, I took a phone call from a Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis. His cousin, 6-year-old Isabel Celis was presumably kidnapped from her Tucson, Ariz., home two weeks ago.

His uncle put her to bed and when he went to wake her up the next morning, she was gone. As of Tuesday afternoon she had not been found.

Because Alex is a Justin resident, the story is more suitable for the Justin paper, and reporter Mary Wendell is working on a story for the newspaper published biweekly.

However, he petitioned prayers for the recovery of his “adorable baby cousin.

<snipped>

http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098


Welcome to the first This Justin
Published Friday, April 27, 2012


http://www.thisjustintexas.com/welcome-to-the-first-this-justin/


TEXAS!  Good catch. Janet, LOL, I kept thinking Northwest, where in Arizona?

Michael A. Celis (I believe) lived or lives, in Texas.  I believe MAC may be the bro to SC?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 03:22:01 PM
MIGUEL G CELIS    DEFENDANT  -  D 1  Date of Birth: 10/1931

Citation Count Description Disp. Date Disposition

C05530820  1  DUI  8/30/1996  PLEA GUILTY/RESP SENT IMPOSED 
C05530820  2  DUI - W/BAC +.10  8/30/1996  COMPL DISMISSED BY COURT 
C05530820  3  STOP SIGN VIOLATION  8/30/1996  COMPL DISMISSED BY COURT 
C05530820  4  TURNING MOVEMENTS  8/30/1996  COMPL DISMISSED BY COURT 
 
http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/(X(1)S(bktb2kmn3bc3zq31qowcf03r))/caselookup.aspx

 ::MonkeyEek::
Did these people ever hear of a designated driver"/



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 03:25:48 PM
Someone commented on an early news article that they had attended hs with Sergio and he used to go by David. 

That is helpful... the switch a roo...David Sergio Celis?

Wonder, what his birth/christening name is?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 28, 2012, 04:00:05 PM
http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis (http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis)

Based upon this, I'm wondering if he went to the University of Arizona for college?:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisOpera.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
http://www.agave.cosc.pima.gov/PublicDocs/

AMY LYNN CELIS Petitioner True
MICHAEL ANGEL CELIS Respondent True


Is Michael Angel Celis, the brother of Sergio Celis?

Is Michael Angel Celis, Miguel Gumilan Celis, son?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 04:08:39 PM
http://www.cosc.co.pima.az.us/home.asp?include=pages/record_search.htm

Sorry, I just did not preview, rats.

I type in Celis, and browse through the list of names.

Record search and a agreement, first

I try to be accurate because I cannot erase anything off the internet


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 04:12:09 PM
http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis (http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis)

Based upon this, I'm wondering if he went to the University of Arizona for college?:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisOpera.jpg)

Thank-you,

Pima Community College.



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 04:25:59 PM
http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis (http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis)

Based upon this, I'm wondering if he went to the University of Arizona for college
?:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisOpera.jpg)

Thank-you,

Pima Community College.



University of Arizona

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Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: BabsKats on May 28, 2012, 04:42:08 PM
http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis (http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis)

Based upon this, I'm wondering if he went to the University of Arizona for college
?:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisOpera.jpg)

Thank-you,

Pima Community College.



University of Arizona

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I'm a paid member of Classmates Seahorse and I've done every search I could find, found nothing at all in Re: to Celis, using "David" and "Sergio" as first names.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2012, 04:42:34 PM
This section acknowledges Rebecca leaving at 0647 and Sergio waking up at 0713 and actually getting out of the bed at 0754...called Rebecca that Isa was missing at 0805...and called 911 at 0813 and unit was on scene at 0820. 

S. Wilmot storage unit was search (with warrant).  40 CDs taken.


http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563539/pdf-celis-6-sandals-found-in-park-dna-from-family

What was on the 40 CD's?  Could these CD's have something to do with why Sergio cannot have contact with his sons?

Scanning through the released document appears to reveal everything investigators did but ... nothing in regards to any investigative outcomes.  My 65 year old eyes are getting veeery tire.

I have yet to read in the documents about the "entire day" investigators spent viewing the security camera videos prior to seizing it all from Moore Security Systems.

I hope Monkeys are enjoying this special Memorial Day.  Memorial Day is not acknowledged in Canada.  November 11th is Remembrance Day ... Poppy Day ... a combination of the American Memorial Day and Veterans' Day.

Janet

+++++

NANCY GRACE
Police Examine Security Camera Video in Isabel Celis Disappearance
Aired April 27, 2012 - 20:00   ET


<snipped>

GRACE: ... joining us, the owner of Moore Security Services, actually has cameras trained on the Celis family home.

Have cops come to your place and taken or looked at video of that alley behind the Celis family home which was being videoed at the time of the kidnap?

MOORE: They certainly have, Nancy. They contacted us right away, about 8:30 on Saturday morning. We do have some signs up in the back of the showroom area, where the cameras are located. It has our phone number on them.

So what they did was they contacted us right away. My general manager came down to the facility, to the showroom, interviewed for four or five hours with detectives, looked at footage then, reviewed footage, then came back Monday and spent basically all day.

Then had us record the information for them on a USB drive. We furnished them with all the information that was stored on the hard drive, on our digital recorder. They took it with them.

<snipped>

MOORE: There`s an alley, Nancy, right behind us. It`s about 25 yards right behind us. That`s, again, about 25 yards from the front door of Isabel`s home. And it runs right behind our showroom, and that`s where our cameras are trained on.

<snipped>

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/27/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 04:48:15 PM
arty Full Name Party Role Name Type
 
MICHAEL ANGEL CELIS Groom True
AMY LYNN KARP
Bride True


I believe Amy Lynn Celis is or was the wife of Michael Celis.

I wonder if the Alex is the son?  Michael A. Celis, residence, was or is in Texas, this connects, not conclusive, yet.

L2993484 (case number) or Name search

http://www.agave.cosc.pima.gov/PublicDocs/

http://www.cosc.pima.gov/home.asp?include=pages/record_search.htm

1. Record search on left of page

2. I agree to the information above.

Pima County Clerk of The Superior Court

These are my opinion's... Public Information by the Freedom of Information Act :)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 05:07:31 PM
http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis (http://www.azopera.com/performances.php?opera=castbios&subpage=sergio_david_celis)

Based upon this, I'm wondering if he went to the University of Arizona for college
?:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CelisOpera.jpg)

Thank-you,

Pima Community College.



University of Arizona

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I'm a paid member of Classmates Seahorse and I've done every search I could find, found nothing at all in Re: to Celis, using "David" and "Sergio" as first names.

Have you tried Mexico?  I am not being a wise guy-monkey :) 

I recall, someone found a document in Spanish, on the net, grrr...I cannot really pinpoint
what site, (I read it) the Spanish written resume or document, was by Sergio Celis, not sure if his middle name was included or not. 

The poster noted it was a year before he married, he was living in Mexico, have not clue if this is true, only what I gleaned. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 05:25:09 PM
Babskat

Vita
searched, 'theater, mexico, Sergio Celis" is my understanding.

 ::MonkeyEek::
Vita has links posted on the link.  IDK if the links work, have not tried.

seamusoriley.blogspot.com/.../sergio-celis-stripped-of-physical.html

I believe SC was MAY have been living in Mexico in 1995, not conclusive.

I'm lost here. It's getting hard to follow.  Can you please clarify so the average reader can make heads or tails?   "Vita"?  The links posted here don't work.  MB







Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Puzzler on May 28, 2012, 05:45:53 PM
http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx (http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx)

Case Number:   M-1041-CR-2122872    
Title:   ST OF AZ VS CELIS REBECCA   Category:   Criminal
Court:   Tucson Municipal Court   Filing Date:   12/3/2002
Judge:   HON EUGENE H HAYS   Disposition Date:   4/22/2003
REBECCA CELIS    DEFENDANT  -  D 1    Date of Birth: 10/1976
Citation   Count   Description   Disp. Date   Disposition
CL0033825    1    DUI; ALCOHOL DRUGS TOXIC VAPOR OR COMBINATION    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
CL0033825    2    LIQ IN VEHICLE CONSUME/POSSESS    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
CL0033825    3    CHILD/VULNERABLE ADULT ABUSE    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY



My guess is DUI with child in the car



Not good!


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on May 28, 2012, 06:24:32 PM
Back in my pre-child, semi-wild child ways I can say that we might have called that very high(no pun intended)grade, red haired bud.  If the Celis' are importing/selling/trafficking that kind of MaryJ then there is no telling what kind of people they have been or are dealing with.  I would not consider them seller but maybe the midman that gets it and distributes it to one or two people who then break it down for distribution.  Remember the white man and his son that were spotted on camera and by LE going in the gate door and poss into the Celis' home?  I thought they were going in to rob/look for drugs or remove some type of evidence.  I think they know something about Sergio and Becky!  Have a look at the video of them being stopped by LE, they were up to no good!  Sorry, don't have link on hand.  It's been given to me too recently by a very sweet Monkey.

She is be a complete idiot to post that on her FB page!  I know that's harsh but they volunteer with children and have kids of their own.

You have to wonder.  That said, drugs do tend to attract unsavory sorts who look to make money in all kinds of illegal ways.

I still think the circumstances are too far fetched for this to be a stranger abducation.

I'm embarrassed to say that I thought it was Becky's FB page that the marijuana bud picture was posted on.  I see now that is was on the FB page of a Sabrina Celis.  Thank goodness!  I thought Becky was off her rocker!

I agree, Melissa.  Here in the PNW there are lots of people who support legalization.  We have a well to do neighbor who has gastric cancer and she has a prescription for it... says it helps her tremendously.  She's elderly and holds no punches about telling people, gives us all a good laugh when we visit.

Sorry for the off topic.  I just wanted to make a correction to my previous post.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 07:45:16 PM
Babskat

Vita
searched, 'theater, mexico, Sergio Celis" is my understanding.

 ::MonkeyEek::
Vita has links posted on the link.  IDK if the links work, have not tried.

seamusoriley.blogspot.com/.../sergio-celis-stripped-of-physical.html

I believe SC was MAY have been living in Mexico in 1995, not conclusive.

I'm lost here. It's getting hard to follow.  Can you please clarify so the average reader can make heads or tails?   "Vita"?  The links posted here don't work.  MB










I apolgize Muffy.

I wrote Vita and asked the same question. I will rewrite her again, surely she will answer.

SC was living in Mexico in 1995 or 1996, according to Vita's research which is usually accurate.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/10394778721572395732 (Vita's profile):)



Vita said...
To DrDebo if your here reading.

 ::snipping2::

I will have to find it and post it, I found an article of Sergio written by another. It is written in Spanish. His youth, his time prior to marrying Becky by a year. He is said to have been given a scholarship of sorts to join a theater group for education in Mexico. At the time it is said to be mayhem of drug cartel, gangs etc, that those who joined this theater were given an outlet. He is named and named for a staring role. I will post the link, from 1995, he then was living in Mexico. The link is enormous.

Sat May 12, 11:28:00 PM EDT

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=34799002&postID=2723984277223794150&page=1&token=1338247200403


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: flutter1 on May 28, 2012, 08:03:28 PM
Pray for Isabel
Posted on 01. May, 2012
by Erika Pedroza


The Messenger office has fielded a few calls with story tips for This Justin, a sister paper birthed last week for the residents of our Denton County neighbor.

Last week, I took a phone call from a Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis. His cousin, 6-year-old Isabel Celis was presumably kidnapped from her Tucson, Ariz., home two weeks ago.

His uncle put her to bed and when he went to wake her up the next morning, she was gone. As of Tuesday afternoon she had not been found.

Because Alex is a Justin resident, the story is more suitable for the Justin paper, and reporter Mary Wendell is working on a story for the newspaper published biweekly.

However, he petitioned prayers for the recovery of his “adorable baby cousin.

<snipped>

http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098


Welcome to the first This Justin
Published Friday, April 27, 2012


http://www.thisjustintexas.com/welcome-to-the-first-this-justin/

This is where I live (Wise County), wonder if LE has checked in this area.  Guess I'll have to be more observant when I'm at Wallyworld as its the only grocery/shopping in the county.

I am further south of you, but not surprised to see a Texas connection.   ::CowboySmiley::



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 28, 2012, 08:03:31 PM
http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx (http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx)

Case Number:   M-1041-CR-2122872    
Title:   ST OF AZ VS CELIS REBECCA   Category:   Criminal
Court:   Tucson Municipal Court   Filing Date:   12/3/2002
Judge:   HON EUGENE H HAYS   Disposition Date:   4/22/2003
REBECCA CELIS    DEFENDANT  -  D 1    Date of Birth: 10/1976
Citation   Count   Description   Disp. Date   Disposition
CL0033825    1    DUI; ALCOHOL DRUGS TOXIC VAPOR OR COMBINATION    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
CL0033825    2    LIQ IN VEHICLE CONSUME/POSSESS    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
CL0033825    3    CHILD/VULNERABLE ADULT ABUSE    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY



My guess is DUI with child in the car


 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Does Sergio have any criminal record?

Janet



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2012, 08:27:43 PM
http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx (http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/%28X%281%29S%285i53jw2bedmdvy55yya4jm45%29%29/caselookup.aspx)

Case Number:   M-1041-CR-2122872    
Title:   ST OF AZ VS CELIS REBECCA   Category:   Criminal
Court:   Tucson Municipal Court   Filing Date:   12/3/2002
Judge:   HON EUGENE H HAYS   Disposition Date:   4/22/2003
REBECCA CELIS    DEFENDANT  -  D 1    Date of Birth: 10/1976
Citation   Count   Description   Disp. Date   Disposition
CL0033825    1    DUI; ALCOHOL DRUGS TOXIC VAPOR OR COMBINATION    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
CL0033825    2    LIQ IN VEHICLE CONSUME/POSSESS    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
CL0033825    3    CHILD/VULNERABLE ADULT ABUSE    4/22/2003    COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY



My guess is DUI with child in the car



Not good!

Dr.Baden, Pathologist, did mention a child was in the vehicle, at the time, of the DWI. 

Where is Isabel Celis? May 20, 2012



9:23 - The last 23 seconds is when Dr. Baden commented on the DWI

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1647897013001/where-is-isabel-celis
(adobe flash player is required)




Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: BabsKats on May 28, 2012, 08:39:47 PM
Pray for Isabel
Posted on 01. May, 2012
by Erika Pedroza


The Messenger office has fielded a few calls with story tips for This Justin, a sister paper birthed last week for the residents of our Denton County neighbor.

Last week, I took a phone call from a Northwest High School senior, Alex Celis. His cousin, 6-year-old Isabel Celis was presumably kidnapped from her Tucson, Ariz., home two weeks ago.

His uncle put her to bed and when he went to wake her up the next morning, she was gone. As of Tuesday afternoon she had not been found.

Because Alex is a Justin resident, the story is more suitable for the Justin paper, and reporter Mary Wendell is working on a story for the newspaper published biweekly.

However, he petitioned prayers for the recovery of his “adorable baby cousin.

<snipped>

http://www.wcmessenger.com/blogs/mess/?p=2098


Welcome to the first This Justin
Published Friday, April 27, 2012


http://www.thisjustintexas.com/welcome-to-the-first-this-justin/

This is where I live (Wise County), wonder if LE has checked in this area.  Guess I'll have to be more observant when I'm at Wallyworld as its the only grocery/shopping in the county.

I am further south of you, but not surprised to see a Texas connection.   ::CowboySmiley::


Flutter, only reason I mentioned was in the beginning of this case there were thoughts that she may have been taken by family for some reason, I figured if they'd mention checking the border who knows how far it could range! 

Although as time passes I'm afraid it isn't going to be a good outcome and that if she's found it will be close to home.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2012, 01:46:56 PM

Hello Monkey's,

Muffy

Vita, says...

I will have to find it and post it, I found an article of Sergio written by another. It is written in Spanish. His youth, his time prior to marrying Becky by a year. He is said to have been given a scholarship of sorts to join a theater group for education in Mexico. At the time it is said to be mayhem of drug cartel, gangs etc, that those who joined this theater were given an outlet. He is named and named for a staring role. I will post the link, from 1995, he then was living in Mexico. The link is enormous.

I Googled:   Sergio Celis Mexican Theater 1996


(I realize the below link, may not work, but, on google, the link works)


[PDF] 
Mexico City Theatre: Summers 1995 and 1996

https://journals.ku.edu/index.php/latr/article/download/1142/1117You +1'd this publicly. Undo
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
by TG Compton - 1996 - Cited by 3 - Related articles
Mexico City Theatre: Summers 1995 and 1996 ... an intimate experimental theatre, sponsored the undertaking. ... ejecutivos by Sergio Celis on Wednesdays .


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2012, 05:53:01 PM

Hello Monkey's,

Muffy

Vita, says...

I will have to find it and post it, I found an article of Sergio written by another. It is written in Spanish. His youth, his time prior to marrying Becky by a year. He is said to have been given a scholarship of sorts to join a theater group for education in Mexico. At the time it is said to be mayhem of drug cartel, gangs etc, that those who joined this theater were given an outlet. He is named and named for a staring role. I will post the link, from 1995, he then was living in Mexico. The link is enormous.

I Googled:   Sergio Celis Mexican Theater 1996


(I realize the below link, may not work, but, on google, the link works)


[PDF] 
Mexico City Theatre: Summers 1995 and 1996

https://journals.ku.edu/index.php/latr/article/download/1142/1117You +1'd this publicly. Undo
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
by TG Compton - 1996 - Cited by 3 - Related articles
Mexico City Theatre: Summers 1995 and 1996 ... an intimate experimental theatre, sponsored the undertaking. ... ejecutivos by Sergio Celis on Wednesdays .


Yes, it works.  My concern is that Sergio Celis is not that uncommon a name:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE0QFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.ku.edu%2Findex.php%2Flatr%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F1142%2F1117&ei=FULFT92-JsOg2QWq443kAQ&usg=AFQjCNG2epuJGouJHfscguPseq25pSNpvQ&sig2=FClAoeaPwXTHs-i5XHo3rA&cad=rja (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE0QFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.ku.edu%2Findex.php%2Flatr%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F1142%2F1117&ei=FULFT92-JsOg2QWq443kAQ&usg=AFQjCNG2epuJGouJHfscguPseq25pSNpvQ&sig2=FClAoeaPwXTHs-i5XHo3rA&cad=rja)

Page 1 of the PDF:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/19951996MexicoCelis.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2012, 07:34:44 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show at 9PM ET tonight!

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Pretzer052912.jpg)


Click on the link below to listen:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2012, 08:29:52 PM

Hello Monkey's,

Muffy

Vita, says...

I will have to find it and post it, I found an article of Sergio written by another. It is written in Spanish. His youth, his time prior to marrying Becky by a year. He is said to have been given a scholarship of sorts to join a theater group for education in Mexico. At the time it is said to be mayhem of drug cartel, gangs etc, that those who joined this theater were given an outlet. He is named and named for a staring role. I will post the link, from 1995, he then was living in Mexico. The link is enormous.

I Googled:   Sergio Celis Mexican Theater 1996


(I realize the below link, may not work, but, on google, the link works)


[PDF] 
Mexico City Theatre: Summers 1995 and 1996

https://journals.ku.edu/index.php/latr/article/download/1142/1117You +1'd this publicly. Undo
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
by TG Compton - 1996 - Cited by 3 - Related articles
Mexico City Theatre: Summers 1995 and 1996 ... an intimate experimental theatre, sponsored the undertaking. ... ejecutivos by Sergio Celis on Wednesdays .


Yes, it works.  My concern is that Sergio Celis is not that uncommon a name:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE0QFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.ku.edu%2Findex.php%2Flatr%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F1142%2F1117&ei=FULFT92-JsOg2QWq443kAQ&usg=AFQjCNG2epuJGouJHfscguPseq25pSNpvQ&sig2=FClAoeaPwXTHs-i5XHo3rA&cad=rja (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CE0QFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.ku.edu%2Findex.php%2Flatr%2Farticle%2Fdownload%2F1142%2F1117&ei=FULFT92-JsOg2QWq443kAQ&usg=AFQjCNG2epuJGouJHfscguPseq25pSNpvQ&sig2=FClAoeaPwXTHs-i5XHo3rA&cad=rja)

Page 1 of the PDF:

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/19951996MexicoCelis.jpg)

Good evening Monkey's
Thank-you, Klaas,

You are right, it is common. I need photos, good crisp photos:) 

I will ask the original poster, she can dig-up photos, to clarify it is him, the next time she post's on Seamus.

No mention of Mexico on the resume, that you posted.


Thank-you, again:)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 29, 2012, 09:32:57 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/

Isabel Celis Abduction BREAKING NEWS: Docs Show Blood In Bedroom Police Eye Family AND Neighbor


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on May 30, 2012, 12:10:48 AM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/

Isabel Celis Abduction BREAKING NEWS: Docs Show Blood In Bedroom Police Eye Family AND Neighbor


Great read.  Thanks Blink...thanks Klaas for posting it.  I definitely felt something was up with the Nathan guy...that really stood out to me.  I was too busy recording all of the information in separate parts to put together that he was possibly the same guy on the electric box.  Wow.  I would like to find pics and see if he has any pics in the Wolverine boots.  Also, I never would have thought on my own that the citations regarding the dogs being out could be related to this case...that someone may have tried to get rid of the dogs in order to complete their plan. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on May 30, 2012, 12:37:24 AM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/

Isabel Celis Abduction BREAKING NEWS: Docs Show Blood In Bedroom Police Eye Family AND Neighbor


Great read.  Thanks Blink...thanks Klaas for posting it.  I definitely felt something was up with the Nathan guy...that really stood out to me.  I was too busy recording all of the information in separate parts to put together that he was possibly the same guy on the electric box.  Wow.  I would like to find pics and see if he has any pics in the Wolverine boots.  Also, I never would have thought on my own that the citations regarding the dogs being out could be related to this case...that someone may have tried to get rid of the dogs in order to complete their plan. 

Agreed!  Excellent article by Blink.  LE releasing these documents might prove to be beneficial to this case.  I sure hope so. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on May 30, 2012, 01:28:57 AM
Can someone explain the 'electrical' boxes?  We don't have anything like that here.  The electrical lines are underground until they reach the home where they are run through a small pipe to the meter and then inside to the home fuse box.  Wouldn't the box have to have some size to it for a grown man to sit on and wouldn't it be dangerous to sit on something with electricity running through it?  I could see trying to hide behind it, but whatever would one sit on top of it for?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on May 30, 2012, 01:35:02 AM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/

Isabel Celis Abduction BREAKING NEWS: Docs Show Blood In Bedroom Police Eye Family AND Neighbor

What are the chances this is the same Nathan Patrick McDonald?

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Utah/Salt-Lake-County-UT/Nathaniel-Patrick-Mcdonald.7421063.html


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2012, 09:01:55 AM
Can someone explain the 'electrical' boxes?  We don't have anything like that here.  The electrical lines are underground until they reach the home where they are run through a small pipe to the meter and then inside to the home fuse box.  Wouldn't the box have to have some size to it for a grown man to sit on and wouldn't it be dangerous to sit on something with electricity running through it?  I could see trying to hide behind it, but whatever would one sit on top of it for?

They might look something like this.  We have them in our area.  Usually there is one every block or two.  In our area they are mostly right next to the sidewalk but they are usually on someones property line and could be right next to their house:

(http://www2.wjbf.com/mgmedia/image/294/0/297273/power-boxes-block-sidewalk-broad-street/)





Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Blink34 on May 30, 2012, 09:33:27 AM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/

Isabel Celis Abduction BREAKING NEWS: Docs Show Blood In Bedroom Police Eye Family AND Neighbor

What are the chances this is the same Nathan Patrick McDonald?

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Utah/Salt-Lake-County-UT/Nathaniel-Patrick-Mcdonald.7421063.html


Kitty- that is not him.  His name is Nathan Patrick Corlis McDonald. 


Thanks guys on the piece, part 2 posting this afternoon, but wanted to post this so y'all can see the proximity of events the morning of April 21st involving Nathan McDonald.

 
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/boc1.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on May 30, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
Can someone explain the 'electrical' boxes?  We don't have anything like that here.  The electrical lines are underground until they reach the home where they are run through a small pipe to the meter and then inside to the home fuse box.  Wouldn't the box have to have some size to it for a grown man to sit on and wouldn't it be dangerous to sit on something with electricity running through it?  I could see trying to hide behind it, but whatever would one sit on top of it for?

They might look something like this.  We have them in our area.  Usually there is one every block or two.  In our area they are mostly right next to the sidewalk but they are usually on someones property line and could be right next to their house:

(http://www2.wjbf.com/mgmedia/image/294/0/297273/power-boxes-block-sidewalk-broad-street/)




Thanks.  Much different than what we have around here.  I guess the guy could say he was resting?  But an odd place to rest no matter how tired one might be.  I wonder if anyone around the park area how security cameras?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: sunshine12 on May 30, 2012, 11:29:29 AM
excellent excellent article Blink.  By far the best article I have read so far on this case.  I know I just posted this on your site but I will write it here as well...I'm wondering if Mr. McDonald is under surveillance like the alleged perp in the Sierra Lamar case


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Blink34 on May 30, 2012, 12:59:44 PM
excellent excellent article Blink.  By far the best article I have read so far on this case.  I know I just posted this on your site but I will write it here as well...I'm wondering if Mr. McDonald is under surveillance like the alleged perp in the Sierra Lamar case

Thank you sunshine, if he continues to be a person of interest ( media term, not an LE term) there is no doubt for me he would continue to be under surveillance until such time as he was no longer.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: melisb on May 30, 2012, 03:23:58 PM
From the map posted by Blink it looks like Mr. McD could have parked his car, walked through the park, across the street to a more secret tree and brush filled area (wash).  Then he may have come out to the side and posted up on the electric box for a little while just to look around and see if anyone notices him or survey the area he just left.  Then he went back through park, encountered LE and rushed home for "breakfast".  Something is up with him!  Someone please find out what he might do and if he has a criminal history!  Blink might have that in her next piece today.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on May 31, 2012, 07:31:40 PM
From the map posted by Blink it looks like Mr. McD could have parked his car, walked through the park, across the street to a more secret tree and brush filled area (wash).  Then he may have come out to the side and posted up on the electric box for a little while just to look around and see if anyone notices him or survey the area he just left.  Then he went back through park, encountered LE and rushed home for "breakfast".  Something is up with him!  Someone please find out what he might do and if he has a criminal history!  Blink might have that in her next piece today.

Hello Everyone!


This is what the path, he took....the Blinkster bloggers ,were chatting he may have
has diabetes, cause a photo of granola bar was found? 

Melisb...Do have any theories about this case?  I am stumped, I followed the case,fairly well, until the neighbor, and his flashlight surfaced..TIA


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: melisb on June 01, 2012, 02:48:47 AM
Sea, my theory until Blink's article was Dad did it but I am no great sleuth!  LOL!  Since reading her piece I am kinda leaning toward Mr. McD, it made a whole buncha sense to me and I am Sooooo dying to know if he had Wolverine boots or any evidence of ever having any given that LE did serve a search warrant on his and Alicia's home.  All I really think I know (haha) is that it was and inside job or someone close enough to the family and/or fam home to watch it and know just where that poor little girls room was and that she had been placed in it that night!  Close enough to me would be a very close family friend, other family or a super close neighbor.  Hey, wait a moment...if Alicia and Mr. McD went to bed around 12am or 12:30am they could have come home between 10:30 and 11:30pm and he may have noticed that Isa was being placed in her room that particular night because her lights were on in her room readying her for bed.  I don't believe I noticed any shades in that home, just some thin curtains in her room.  You could possibly see right through them or very good shadows!


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Puzzler on June 01, 2012, 03:07:42 AM
http://www.kpho.com/story/18672221/tucson-pd-false-report-of-isabel-found

KPHO Phoenix, AZ 5/31/12

Tucson PD: False report of Isabel found


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on June 01, 2012, 05:06:40 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47637906

TUCSON - The reward for information on the disappearance Isabel Celis  case has gone up to over $60,000.

With roughly $10,000 of donations in recent days, the reward for information leading to the arrest of the person or persons responsible for the 6-year-old's disappearance is now $60,500.  
You can view and download the 88-CRIME flier for Isabel Celis here:

http://88crime.org/custom.aspx?p=7


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on June 01, 2012, 05:28:49 AM
Sea, my theory until Blink's article was Dad did it but I am no great sleuth!  LOL!  Since reading her piece I am kinda leaning toward Mr. McD, it made a whole buncha sense to me and I am Sooooo dying to know if he had Wolverine boots or any evidence of ever having any given that LE did serve a search warrant on his and Alicia's home.  All I really think I know (haha) is that it was and inside job or someone close enough to the family and/or fam home to watch it and know just where that poor little girls room was and that she had been placed in it that night!  Close enough to me would be a very close family friend, other family or a super close neighbor.  Hey, wait a moment...if Alicia and Mr. McD went to bed around 12am or 12:30am they could have come home between 10:30 and 11:30pm and he may have noticed that Isa was being placed in her room that particular night because her lights were on in her room readying her for bed.  I don't believe I noticed any shades in that home, just some thin curtains in her room.  You could possibly see right through them or very good shadows!

Melisb,

Thank-you.  It makes sense of what you wrote. 

I wonder a 'Cabbage Patch' party, on the night of the disappearance?

I actually think it was MOM.  RC is overworked, and the kid was overtired.

I have not found any information Mr.D, is he a Tucson, AZ, native? TIA

He prob does have a pair of W. boots, they are popular, is my understanding.

Melisb, you would think the parents, would be half nuts, or at least a little angry,
this is why I lean towards the Mom...IMO

The bed shirt and sheets,(if found) gives me the creeps.

Could SC and RC be swingers, with the neighbors? ::piggy:: ::piggy::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on June 01, 2012, 06:23:06 AM
(http://88crime.org/images/heading-on.jpg)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on June 02, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-urYkX8syTpg/T8oH6geO65I/AAAAAAAAD38/aUy8ttLS25g/s1600/4fc991b512080.preview-620.jpg)

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Possible Scenarios of What Happened To Isabel Celis?

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Northern Rose on June 03, 2012, 12:32:39 AM
Missing Tucson girl's image kept in view

 Jun. 2, 2012 12:21 PM

TUCSON -- Several volunteers are making it their mission to keep the image of a missing Tucson girl in public view.
 
More than 40 days have passed since 6-year-old Isabel Mercedes Celis was reported missing from her home, and there have been no major breaks or developments in the case.
 
The small group of rotating volunteers, some family friends, neighbors and strangers, are posting fliers in neighborhoods, working on brightly colored door hangers and planning car washes and other events, the Arizona Daily Star reported.
 
The girl's photo will be placed on six bus benches and several signs at bus stops throughout the city in the next few weeks.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/06/02/20120602PNI0602-wir-tucson-missing-girl-mercedes-celis-photo.html


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: seahorse on June 03, 2012, 08:00:20 PM

Hello Monkey's,


NoRose,  Thanks for the update.

Have you read Blinkster's, updated, comments?  ::MonkeyTongue::

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/#comments


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on June 03, 2012, 09:28:51 PM

Hello Monkey's,


NoRose,  Thanks for the update.

Have you read Blinkster's, updated, comments?  ::MonkeyTongue::

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/#comments
OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd say Blink has hit a nerve.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: melisb on June 03, 2012, 09:56:11 PM
Hey Wyks!  Glad to see you and hope your okay!!!


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Wyks on June 03, 2012, 09:56:18 PM
Hi everyone. 

It's so hard, reading thru here, in agreement with all y'all.... then listening to this.. Sergio singing 'Ave Maria' which is a prayer, and beautifully sung:


http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/category/179377/video-center?clipId=7176929&autostart=true (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/category/179377/video-center?clipId=7176929&autostart=true)


It's hard to equate this man, as the same man who is the father of Isa, who possibly...... yeah. 

What a weird world we are living in.   ::MonkeyTears:: 



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Wyks on June 03, 2012, 10:03:22 PM
Hey Wyks!  Glad to see you and hope your okay!!!


Hi melisb!!!!!   ::HelloKitty::  So good to see ya!  And thanks, am doing well.  :) 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Wyks on June 03, 2012, 10:07:49 PM

Hello Monkey's,


NoRose,  Thanks for the update.

Have you read Blinkster's, updated, comments?  ::MonkeyTongue::

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/#comments

Hehe seahorse.   ::MonkeyTongue::  And thanks, quite an interesting read.  lol



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: melisb on June 03, 2012, 10:08:46 PM

Hello Monkey's,


NoRose,  Thanks for the update.

Have you read Blinkster's, updated, comments?  ::MonkeyTongue::

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/#comments
OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd say Blink has hit a nerve.   ::MonkeyDevil::


More like jumped up and down and stomped on it!  She gave him a verbal bick slap!  To be fair to him she gave him every opportunity to clear his name, reply to any question he wanted, answer his questions and he didn't do any of that!  Everything he said he was gonna do, he didn't, he danced all the way around the issues at hand!  He didn't help himself AT ALL!!!!


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on June 03, 2012, 11:57:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh-8OomTY-Y

Nate McDonald working on the Thai Pads

Is this the owner of the Jetta id by LE?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Wyks on June 04, 2012, 12:06:39 AM
Very true melisb, he didn't help himself at all.  Methinks the gentleman 'doth protest too much'. 

One thing that I think is strange, is how quickly it seems McD went from finding out that Isa was missing to searching himself for her.  Now honestly, it's wonderful that locals want to help where they can.  I'd do the same, and have helped search for two peeps who went missing. 

It very often is a knee-jerk reaction to want to rush right out and help look, anywhere, everywhere.  And I know that people are all different.  What happens (at least for me) was OMG, <rush out door> what can I do?????????  Eyes already scanning the street, bushes, yards, etc.  No thought given to anything else, like eating breakfast first, or what am I wearing, etc.  Get the shoes on, and go.  At some point on the way out the door tho......... it hit me, wait a minute, where do I start?  Guess I ought to start with talking to the people in charge, like the police or family or whoever.. what do you want me to do first?  kind of thing.  Really.  None of us went running off half-cocked doing our own search.  But, people are different, yeah I know. 

In one of my neighborhoods, it was a little boy who was missing.  Talked with the police, they sent us neighbors in pairs, to knock on the doors of each house on our street.  Those neighbors came out and talked with the police too.  Pretty soon the whole neighborhood was out, we helped each other check backyards, sheds, garages.  The little boy was later found in the stream at the end of the street, unfortunately.  :'(  But really, none of us (that I am aware of) thought to look in the stream, immediately and first.

What made this McD guy seemingly so quickly decide, on his own, to go immediately and STRAIGHT to the park and that particular tunnel and wash area?  I mean really.  How weird is that?  Maybe the neighbors and police quickly did a huddle and decided 'you go there, you there, we're over here, and they're going there', and we just haven't heard about that????  I dunno.  Just another oddity in this case.  Sigh.



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on June 04, 2012, 01:36:54 AM
Wyks, I was just thinking the same thing!  He had to drive his car a half mile to the location where he was searching.  Didn't really make sense to me either.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on June 04, 2012, 08:30:14 AM
Very true melisb, he didn't help himself at all.  Methinks the gentleman 'doth protest too much'. 

One thing that I think is strange, is how quickly it seems McD went from finding out that Isa was missing to searching himself for her.  Now honestly, it's wonderful that locals want to help where they can.  I'd do the same, and have helped search for two peeps who went missing. 

It very often is a knee-jerk reaction to want to rush right out and help look, anywhere, everywhere.  And I know that people are all different.  What happens (at least for me) was OMG, <rush out door> what can I do?????????  Eyes already scanning the street, bushes, yards, etc.  No thought given to anything else, like eating breakfast first, or what am I wearing, etc.  Get the shoes on, and go.  At some point on the way out the door tho......... it hit me, wait a minute, where do I start?  Guess I ought to start with talking to the people in charge, like the police or family or whoever.. what do you want me to do first?  kind of thing.  Really.  None of us went running off half-cocked doing our own search.  But, people are different, yeah I know. 

In one of my neighborhoods, it was a little boy who was missing.  Talked with the police, they sent us neighbors in pairs, to knock on the doors of each house on our street.  Those neighbors came out and talked with the police too.  Pretty soon the whole neighborhood was out, we helped each other check backyards, sheds, garages.  The little boy was later found in the stream at the end of the street, unfortunately.  :'(  But really, none of us (that I am aware of) thought to look in the stream, immediately and first.

What made this McD guy seemingly so quickly decide, on his own, to go immediately and STRAIGHT to the park and that particular tunnel and wash area?  I mean really.  How weird is that?  Maybe the neighbors and police quickly did a huddle and decided 'you go there, you there, we're over here, and they're going there', and we just haven't heard about that????  I dunno.  Just another oddity in this case.  Sigh.

Wyks, I agree with what you are saying.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: yuknomenot on June 04, 2012, 04:56:14 PM
Blink is handling them masterfully (mistressfully?  ::MonkeyEek::).  Now an "Amanda" has jumped into the fray.  Has anyone else noticed that "Nathan" and "Amanda" seem to have quite similar styles?   It would be nice to know if one or both of them are the real Nathan McDonald.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: cw618 on June 04, 2012, 08:50:19 PM
IDK if this guy is the real Nathan McDonald,of tucson that is in the
docs released by LE in isa cellis case,but what id like to know is,how
do you get LE, to do this for you,i thought LE chased bad guys/gals
not PR for the average joe public
who says stuff like that,if true id be one P owed citizen of tucson

Yes, the police put me in the public eye. They started that fire. They have taken steps
(of which I am intimately aware) to keep my name out of the media and remove video of
me from media reports


Nathan McDonald says:
Yes, the police put me in the public eye. They started that fire. They have taken steps (of which I am
intimately aware) to keep my name out of the media and remove video of me from media reports
because, and I quote “You are charged with no crime and are a suspect in no investigation.”
http://tinyurl.com/cdkv2fh

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/comment-page-3/#comment-1907271 (http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/05/29/isabel-celis-abduction-breaking-news-docs-show-blood-in-bedroom-police-eye-family-and-neighbor/comment-page-3/#comment-1907271)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Wyks on June 05, 2012, 02:24:34 AM
cw, good point!!

i don't know anyone, short of some big celeb or the pres of the usa, that LE would run interference with the media for.  and i kind of doubt this McD is that much of a hotshot.  <perhaps in his own mind, lol>   ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on June 05, 2012, 07:38:20 AM
cw, good point!!

i don't know anyone, short of some big celeb or the pres of the usa, that LE would run interference with the media for.  and i kind of doubt this McD is that much of a hotshot.  <perhaps in his own mind, lol>   ::MonkeyDevil::



::rhino::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: flutter1 on June 05, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
cw, good point!!

i don't know anyone, short of some big celeb or the pres of the usa, that LE would run interference with the media for.  and i kind of doubt this McD is that much of a hotshot.  <perhaps in his own mind, lol>   ::MonkeyDevil::



Good to see you Wyks!  Isn't this case a brain-kicker?   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Monkey King on June 05, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
cw, good point!!

i don't know anyone, short of some big celeb or the pres of the usa, that LE would run interference with the media for.  and i kind of doubt this McD is that much of a hotshot.  <perhaps in his own mind, lol>   ::MonkeyDevil::



Hey Wyks!

Gotta agree with you.  It's wishful thinking that the police are giving the media partial information to infer they have a person of interest but yet, are keeping the focus on the family. 

Why is it taking so long for the Celis's to be 'CLEARED?'

Sergio is still under the no contact with his sons.

Doesn't seem like anyone is minimizing their positions; involvement nor does it appear the police are running interference for the family.

IF they are guilty of being involved in the disappearance, they will get arrested like anyone else. 

I wonder how long they are gong to wait until a grand jury convenes...


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: klaasend on June 09, 2012, 12:06:46 AM
Please make it a habit of copying the date of the article along with the headline and when posting a snippet and the link.  Often the date is very important! 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Monkey King on June 09, 2012, 05:51:17 AM
Reminds me of Isabel

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/belladonna0956/FANTASY/--1069.gif)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on June 09, 2012, 08:49:41 AM
Reminds me of Isabel

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/belladonna0956/FANTASY/--1069.gif)
Beautiful, Monkey King.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/WEATHER/Image174.png)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: flutter1 on June 09, 2012, 10:38:29 AM
Reminds me of Isabel

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k121/belladonna0956/FANTASY/--1069.gif)
Beautiful, Monkey King.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/WEATHER/Image174.png)
::rhino::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Northern Rose on June 10, 2012, 12:58:52 AM
Car wash for missing Tucson girl set for Saturday
June 08, 2012 12:05 pm

A car wash to raise money for the Bring Isa Home fund, to help pay for materials to help find missing Tucson 6-year-old Isabel Celis, is set for Saturday.

 ::snipping2::

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/car-wash-for-missing-tucson-girl-set-for-saturday/article_d4055358-b195-11e1-9be0-0019bb2963f4.html


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2012, 02:22:06 PM
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/new-leads-falling-off-months-after-isabel-s-abduction/article_c3b012ca-e421-5cc9-b8c1-e3ce1789b1f3.html

June 21, 2012
New leads falling off 2 months after Isabel's abduction

Two months have passed since Isabel Celis was abducted from her midtown home and police have still not named any suspects or shared any information about what might have happened to the 6-year-old.

Local and federal authorities continue to follow up new leads and tips that still trickle in, Sgt. Maria Hawke, a Tucson Police Department spokeswoman, said Wednesday.

"We get some occasionally, but they're clearly not going to be at the level they were in the initial days," Hawke said.

TPD has dedicated 15 staff members to work on Isabel's case full time, Hawke said.
 ::snipping2::

Police have not revealed any major developments in the case and have not ruled out or identified any suspects.

In mid-May, Sergio Celis entered into a voluntary agreement with state Child Protective Services to have no contact with his two sons, Isabel's older brothers, after detectives learned of information pertaining to the boys' welfare.

CPS and TPD would not comment on whether that agreement is still in effect.

TPD's efforts are still focused on finding Isabel and returning her to her family.

"The department remains hopeful that we will be able to locate her and return her safely," Hawke said. "The chief has said that we will always continue investigating (the case) up until the point where we have determined where she is or located her or determined what happened."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on June 22, 2012, 07:45:30 AM
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/new-leads-falling-off-months-after-isabel-s-abduction/article_c3b012ca-e421-5cc9-b8c1-e3ce1789b1f3.html

June 21, 2012
New leads falling off 2 months after Isabel's abduction

Two months have passed since Isabel Celis was abducted from her midtown home and police have still not named any suspects or shared any information about what might have happened to the 6-year-old.

Local and federal authorities continue to follow up new leads and tips that still trickle in, Sgt. Maria Hawke, a Tucson Police Department spokeswoman, said Wednesday.

"We get some occasionally, but they're clearly not going to be at the level they were in the initial days," Hawke said.

TPD has dedicated 15 staff members to work on Isabel's case full time, Hawke said.
 ::snipping2::

Police have not revealed any major developments in the case and have not ruled out or identified any suspects.

In mid-May, Sergio Celis entered into a voluntary agreement with state Child Protective Services to have no contact with his two sons, Isabel's older brothers, after detectives learned of information pertaining to the boys' welfare.

CPS and TPD would not comment on whether that agreement is still in effect.

TPD's efforts are still focused on finding Isabel and returning her to her family.

"The department remains hopeful that we will be able to locate her and return her safely," Hawke said. "The chief has said that we will always continue investigating (the case) up until the point where we have determined where she is or located her or determined what happened."
 ::snipping2::

Thank you for the update, grace-land.  This is so sad.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Puzzler on July 02, 2012, 12:48:16 PM
Celis case detectives keep search warrant sealed
June 29, 2012

http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/160916585.html

(snip) TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - It will be at least another month-and-a half before we know what Tucson Police found in Isabel Celis's home. Investigators extended a request to keep those papers secret. (snip)

(snip) But detectives have asked over and over to keep the warrants sealed. They requested 30 days under seal at first; then another 45, then yet another 45 days.

That means the warrants will probably be locked up until late August---about four months after Isabel's disappearance. (snip)

(snip) Police will often avoid releasing certain information because it may be something only the criminal would know. But we've heard no elaboration on why they've kept the warrant information in this case sealed for so long. (snip)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on July 02, 2012, 12:53:53 PM
Celis case detectives keep search warrant sealed
June 29, 2012

http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/160916585.html

(snip) TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - It will be at least another month-and-a half before we know what Tucson Police found in Isabel Celis's home. Investigators extended a request to keep those papers secret. (snip)

(snip) But detectives have asked over and over to keep the warrants sealed. They requested 30 days under seal at first; then another 45, then yet another 45 days.

That means the warrants will probably be locked up until late August---about four months after Isabel's disappearance. (snip)

(snip) Police will often avoid releasing certain information because it may be something only the criminal would know. But we've heard no elaboration on why they've kept the warrant information in this case sealed for so long. (snip)

Thank you for the update article Puzzler.  It's only an extension of  keeping the warrants sealed, but it's some of the first news we've seen in a while.  I remain hopeful for Isabel. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on July 13, 2012, 10:16:43 PM
Video at link

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/19023562/2012/07/13/mother-is-confident-her-daughter-will-return-home

Mother is confident her daughter will return home
| Posted: Jul 13, 2012 8:06 PM CDT Updated: Jul 13, 2012 8:08 PM CDT

TUCSON -
The mother of a missing Tucson girl spoke out again on Friday, saying she's confident her daughter will return home.

Next week will mark three months since 6-year-old Isabel Celis disappeared.

People who are helping in the search for Isabel moved to another location, opening up a new volunteer command center in the Tucson area.

Isabel's mother was there to thank them for their continued efforts.

"I pray that they're working as hard as they can..that they'll get results," said Rebecca Celis
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on July 16, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
Video at link

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/19023562/2012/07/13/mother-is-confident-her-daughter-will-return-home

Mother is confident her daughter will return home
| Posted: Jul 13, 2012 8:06 PM CDT Updated: Jul 13, 2012 8:08 PM CDT

TUCSON -
The mother of a missing Tucson girl spoke out again on Friday, saying she's confident her daughter will return home.

Next week will mark three months since 6-year-old Isabel Celis disappeared.

People who are helping in the search for Isabel moved to another location, opening up a new volunteer command center in the Tucson area.

Isabel's mother was there to thank them for their continued efforts.

"I pray that they're working as hard as they can..that they'll get results," said Rebecca Celis
 ::snipping2::

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/WEATHER/Animation1b.gif)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on July 16, 2012, 02:00:17 PM
Mom needs to start talking. 

It makes me sick when LE is working to find a missing child and the parents are the biggest obstacle in their way. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: theboyzmom on July 16, 2012, 11:54:32 PM
I was happy to see when we went through Tucson today that there were still billboards up and the missing flyers looked like they were being replaced in the rest areas and starbucks. Someone knows what happened. I hope they tell.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
I was happy to see when we went through Tucson today that there were still billboards up and the missing flyers looked like they were being replaced in the rest areas and starbucks. Someone knows what happened. I hope they tell.


I agree, TBM.  Someone knows what happened.  I don't know if it's going to take an attack of conscience or someone to be drunk and talk, but I hope someone tells what they know soon. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: cw618 on July 25, 2012, 01:44:46 PM
found this doing a update check, the girls i read they are 9 and 11,in comments i think
teenager or not,you would think they would know better,and how cruel that was

911 prank, two girls arrested for pretending to be Isabel Celis
Posted: Jul 22, 2012 3:18 PM
Updated: Jul 23, 2012 9:01 AM
 ::snipping2::
The girl, who called from a cell phone, stated she had been kidnapped and hung up the phone
 ::snipping2::
The call was traced and more than 25 officers responded
 ::snipping2::
Their mother was at the apartment but unaware that the phone call had been made to 911.
http://www.kvoa.com/news/911-prank-two-teens-arrested-for-pretending-to-be-isabel-celis/


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 09, 2012, 01:25:15 PM
Tucson girls' prank 911 call had high cost
Posted: Jul 22, 2012 4:29 PM MDT
Updated: Jul 24, 2012 10:08 AM MDT

TUCSON, AZ (CBS5/AP) - Tucson police spent nearly $4,700 investigating a series of prank calls by a 9-year-old girl and her 11-year-old sister.

The two girls were arrested after Tucson police said they called 911 multiple times claiming to be Isabel Celis, the 6-year-old Tucson girl who has been missing since April 21.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.kpho.com/story/19084774/tucson-girls-prank-911-call-had-high-cost


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on August 09, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
Their parents should tear their tails up.  That wasn't funny in the least. 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on August 12, 2012, 11:10:02 AM
Their parents should tear their tails up.  That wasn't funny in the least. 
They (including parents) should be made to volunteer in a shelter of some sort.  They need to learn a lesson they won't ever forget.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2012, 07:01:05 PM
http://tucsoncitizen.com/pats-bits-and-bytes/?p=187
National Media Has a Lot More Theories About Isabel Celis
August 18, 2012

Isabel Celis, age 6, has been “gone” over 100 days now.  Precious little is heard about her in the local media the last couple of weeks.  Why?  Shouldn’t we keep her face front and center to remind everyone this little girl is still missing?

According to a 7/27/2012 newscast by KVOA TV-Com (Tucson local channel 4), the Celis family was together on 7/27/2012 at a prayer vigil, despite a previous voluntary agreement with Child Protective Services in Arizona that Sergio could not be around his family and sons.

KVOA reporters asked the Celis family about this and they refused to comment.  The news station attempted contact with CPS but were not given a response.  That seems to be the extent of the local updates.

However, national media outfits are saying or “hypothesizing” more about the hoax call on July 22 made by two local girls.  According to Jane Velez-Mitchell, who has a talk show airing weekdays on HLN, (locally this is channel 23 on Comcast) Sergio Celis has been allowed to move back into the Celis home and to have contact with his sons.
More...


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2012, 07:20:58 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1208/16/ijvm.01.html
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

Pranksters Pretending to Be Missing Girl Arrested
; Pediatrician Arrested, Charged with Waterboarding 11-Year-Old Daughter; Rihanna Speaks Out

Aired August 16, 2012 - 19:00:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST: Tonight, cops release fake calls to 911 in the search for missing Isabel Celis. We`re going to play those calls for you in just a moment.

Too young, and I mean young, sisters pull a prank and pretend to be the missing Arizona 6-year-old. They`re arrested. But are police any closer to finding out what really happened to little Isabel?

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

 ::snipping2::
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We love you. And we miss you so much.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Isabel was last seen in this home by her parents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They have been interviewed extensively.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are cooperating to the fullest extent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re labeling it as suspicious circumstances and the possible abduction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: New details about what may have happened that Saturday morning.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I remember briefly waking up and hearing male voices outside my bedroom window.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are here today to plea --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we will never give up. We will never give up looking for you.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, a jaw-dropping twist in the disappearance of beautiful little Isabel Celis who vanished from her Tucson home. Tonight, cops say two other little girls from the very same town made a series of fake calls to 911 pretending to be Isabel. We`re going to play those calls for you in just a second.

You`ll remember 6-year-old Isabel vanished from her Tucson, Arizona, home four long months ago. Her dad reported her missing on the morning of April 21st after her mother had left for work as a nurse. Here`s the 911 call.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

REGIS CELIS, ISABEL CELIS` MOTHER: I went to work this morning at 7:00. And I didn`t even check on her. I should have come to check on her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: Just take a deep breath.

REGIS CELIS: No. I can`t even (INAUDIBLE) --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: Does your daughter have any medical condition?

REGIS CELIS: No. She has nothing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: I`m sorry. She has what?

REGIS CELIS: She has nothing. There`s no medical conditions. She`s healthy.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: OK.

REGIS CELIS: No allergies. No medical conditions.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: OK. And you --

REGIS CELIS: She`s got brown hair.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: OK. Didn`t hear anything any at all?

REGIS CELIS: No, I didn`t hear anything at all.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Police say the bedroom window to Isabel`s room was open and the screen was removed. Blood was found in her bedroom.

Sex offenders in the neighborhood and Isabel`s family were questioned. But after four long months still no sign of Isabel. Recently however police thought they`d gotten a huge break in the case. 911 dispatchers got three calls from the same number, a child identifying herself as Isabel. Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: 911, what is the emergency? Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Hello.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: This is 911. How may I help you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: He`s coming.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: Who`s coming?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: He`s coming. Help me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: 911. What is the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: 911, what is the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Isabel.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: What are you reporting? 911.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: What are you reporting?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: I`m kidnapped.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: Do you have a police, fire or medical emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: I`ve said enough.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: What address are you at? What other cross street?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: I don`t know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: And are you reporting a kidnapping? Or have you been kidnapped?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: 911. What is the emergency? 911.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: Hello. Can I help you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: He`s coming.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: What?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: He`s coming.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: What address are you at? Do you know what address you`re at? Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Hello.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: What address are you at? What street are you on?

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Chilling, chilling calls. Cops spent $5,000 investigating these calls. They were frantic to trace them down. And they finally did to a Tucson home where they found two sisters ages nine and 11. The sisters admitted making the prank calls. Nobody knows why they decided to do that.

Now, even though these girls are just nine and 11, they were arrested on suspicion of false reporting to authorities and taken to the juvenile jail. Should they be prosecuted? What do you think?

Call me. 1-877-JVMSAYS. 1-877-586-7297.

Straight out to former prosecutor Wendy Murphy.

Wendy, they`re nine and 11 years old. They should be reprimanded. They should not be allowed to use cell phones for a very long time. But prosecuted? They`re nine and 11.

WENDY MURPHY, FORMER PROSECUTOR: No. I mean, of course they`re not going to be prosecuted. I don`t think that`s a serious risk. But I`ll tell you why I think it`s terrific that they`ve been taken into custody. And I suspect this is why law enforcement did it. Separate them from their family so they can ask them the really important questions. Did someone put you up to this? Because maybe it isn`t, you know, just a child`s prank. And what I worry about in a case like this is that someone has an interest in distracting the public into thinking that Isabel is still out there somewhere which could create false leads, waste of resource, red herring strategy that might ultimately help the real perpetrator if this case gets to trial. And, you know, the jury is thinking, well, what about that 911 call where the girl called and said it was really her, oh, reasonable doubt.

So, I worry that someone put these kids up to this. And that`s why I`m glad they`ve been taken into custody. And I hope they`re asking them questions about their well-being, who do they know? Are they connected in any way to Isabel`s family or friends? You know, what`s the back story here?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I know. Well, I don`t have such a conspiratorial theory. My theory is, and by the way, prosecutors are reportedly deciding this week whether charges will be filed against the nine and 11-year-old sisters.

My theory is and I`m going to forensic psychologist Cheryl Arutt on this one, they`re kids. They`ve been hearing about this in the news. Their imaginations are running wild. When I was nine and 11, I was sailing down across current down the county which was my whole life. I was on a barge which was my father`s shirt box. They don`t know the difference between fiction and reality. They`re nine and 11, Cheryl.

CHERYL ARUTT, FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST: You know something, Jane, the very first phone call one of my children made when she was almost one was to 911 by mistake. And the police came and they forgave her. She was a little baby.

But I have to tell you Kids, they do play. They have imaginations. They can be doing this because they want to see what will happen. They can be doing it because they want to engage in a dramatic play.

But I think Wendy`s also making a very good point because sometimes kids play act things that mirror something that might be going on in their lives. So whether it`s someone putting them up to it or whether there is something going on in their lives that they are trying to have some sort of a call for help, those things really should be ruled out in order to look at this as kids playing and just making an example that this isn`t the way to play because of what it does for the community.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Let`s go to the phone lines and see what our viewers are saying about this.

Angela, North Carolina, your question or thought, Angela?

ANGELA, CALLER, NORTH CAROLINA: Hi. My question is, where were the parents at? Because I mean, this is pretty serious situation. Can they get in trouble for what they did?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, yes, apparently the mother was home. But these kids had cell phones. I`ll be the first to admit, when I was a kid, actually like a twin, I did prank calls. They weren`t about anything serious. They were like fake surveys and things like that. But kids do this kind of stuff.

John Lieberman, HLN contributor, investigative journalist, here`s my thought. This could be an investigative tool for police. Because let`s say hypothetically speaking one key character knows, and I don`t want to be correct about this, but hypothetically if the child were deceased and somebody were aware of that and police go to them, which they did go to certain people and say, hey, we got a call from Isabel, wouldn`t the reaction of those individuals be very telling?

JOHN LIEBERMAN, HLN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, absolutely. And, Jane, I think that is the point here. We`re missing the point. The point is, number one, I believe an 11-year-old knows right from wrong.

But second of all, the point is, can you imagine the false hope that this might give anybody who loves Isabel Celis? The false hope that she is alive, that is really what this is about. This is about false hope for anybody who loves this little girl and who now they might believe that this little girl is definitively alive based on these 911 calls.

And to your point, absolutely this is an investigative tool. If they have somebody they`re keeping an eye on, this is the first thing they`re going to go to that person and say, look, we got a call from Isabel. Tell us about that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And on the other side of the break we`re going to hear about the latest, latest developments with the family of Isabel. What`s going on there? Stay right there.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SERGIO CELIS, ISABEL CELIS` FATHER: We`re looking for you, Isa. We love you. We miss you so much. And we will never give up. We will never give up looking for you.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That was Isabel`s dad who went before the cameras and cried begging for his child to come home. But he was much less emotional in his first 911 call immediately after Isabel disappeared. And even seemed to laugh when talking to police. Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: Is mom there also?

SERGIO CELIS: She just left for work. I just called her and told her to get her butt home.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: After his daughter, Isabel, went missing, dad Sergio Celis who is a volunteer a group with child protective services to stay away from his two sons, one is 14 and ten, we must stress he`s not considered a suspect. We still don`t know why, however, he was asked to stay away from his boys. However, we`ve got new information on that from our producer, Selin Darkaistanian. What do you know, Celine?

SELIN DARKAISTANIAN, HLN PRODUCER: Jane, I just got off the phone with the two neighbors that live down the street from Isabel`s family and are friends and their kids played with Isabel`s older brothers. And they said that remember when this first happened child protective services stepped in and said the dad can have no contact with the two brothers. And in fact, he wasn`t even living with them. He was staying at another location.

But they say things are back to normal. They are living at the house. They are walking down the street. You know, he`s been seen walking down the street with his kids, to the grandparents` house. And it seems like he`s able to have contact with the two sons now. They showed a united front. They showed up to the prayer vigil. You know, the family is definitely united and the dad is living back at the house at Isabel`s house now. And he is allowed to have contact with his two older sons. But they said it seems like everything`s back to normal. It`s really quiet aside from a few Isabel posters in and around the streets.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s listen again to a little bit of these fake 911 calls where the two young sisters ages nine and 11 pretend to be Isabel. It`s a prank.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: 911, what is the emergency? Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: This is 911. How may I help you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: He`s coming.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: Who`s coming?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Coming. Help me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: 911, what is the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: It`s Isabel.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE DISPATCHER: 911, what is the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Isabel.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Imagine the dispatcher who stayed calm but knowing this case obviously and hearing that how terrifying. Cheryl Arutt, forensic psychologist. That had to be to the 911 operator.

ARUTT: Absolutely. This really must have stirred up all kinds of hope that maybe they could actually find her alive. And I know that this is devastating for everybody in that community that`s been really hoping to find her. And I know that an 11-year-old can tell the difference between right and wrong, but I don`t know that they were sophisticated enough to fully comprehend the impact and ripple effect of pulling this prank.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s go out to the phone lines.

Sandra, Missouri, your question or thought, Sandra?

SANDRA, CALLER, MISSOURI: Yes. My question is, OK, when I was 11 years old -- I`m just going to bring you back keep it real fast for you, when I was 11 years old me and my cousin stayed at home. My aunt and family went out to a party. It was me. So, I got on the phone decide to do prank calls calling the police station, the fire truck, telling them there was a fire that other stuff that was going on when it really never happened. So when they finally came to my aunt`s house, my aunt had to go to court. They were getting ready to lock her up, pay all kinds of fines - -

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Sandra, you`re make ago great point. And I want to get last word, Wendy Murphy, should the parents of these sisters be punished?

MURPHY: No. Look, unless there`s a lot more to the story, I don`t think the parents should be punished and I don`t think these girls can or should or will be punished. I do think cops want to know, if kids are pulling a prank and they just call and go, there`s a monster in my house, click, they don`t call and do something as serious as pretending to be Isabel. That`s why I`m very disturbed by this. That`s why I think there might be a connection to the case. But these kids do not deserved to be punished.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, they`ve got to keep investigating. Still no leads as to where little Isabel is.
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Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on August 27, 2012, 10:38:59 PM
Video at link

http://www.kvoa.com/news/isabel-celis-7th-birthday-is-monday/#!prettyPhoto/0/

Isabel Celis' 7th birthday is Monday
Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:09 PM by Sam Salzwedel
Updated: Aug 26, 2012 10:51 PM

TUCSON - Missing girl Isabel Celis' 7th birthday is Monday.

The family is celebrating by going to a special church service.
 
"What better way to celebrate her birthday than by thanking God that he gave her to us," Isabel's mother, Becky Celis said, "and at the end, hopefully getting her back."
 
Isabel has been missing more than 4 months.
 
"There are the really rough days," Isabel's father, Sergio Celis said, "incredible sadness, incredible frustration still, but lots of hope."
 
The couple says the stress has brought them closer and they will be ready when Isabel comes home.
 
"We're as strong as we have been, and I think stronger," Becky Celis said. "We've gone through this."
 
They are back home and working their jobs again.
 ::snipping2::
They say they have not heard from police lately.
 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on August 27, 2012, 10:47:10 PM
Video at link

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/19386331/latest-on-missing-isabel-celis-investigation

Latest on Isabel Celis investigation
Posted: Aug 27, 2012 12:36 PM CDT Updated: Aug 27, 2012 8:22 PM CDT

TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) -
As the family of Isabel Celis celebrates her 7th birthday today, the Tucson Police Department continues to investigate the disappearance of the little girl who was last seen in April.
 
Chief Roberto Villasenor with the Tucson Police Department says he has two detectives assigned to the case full-time who are following up on leads daily. There have been 2,038 leads to date.
  ::snipping2::
Chief Villasenor said the case isn't anywhere close to going cold.
 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on August 28, 2012, 01:50:11 PM
What a shame that Isabel's parents care so little for her.  Sadly, that seems to a common thread in many cases lately.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on August 28, 2012, 02:10:28 PM
What a shame that Isabel's parents care so little for her.  Sadly, that seems to a common thread in many cases lately.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on August 28, 2012, 08:38:08 PM
What a shame that Isabel's parents care so little for her.  Sadly, that seems to a common thread in many cases lately.

I wondered if that was only my impression.  They seem less than upset about her disappearance in that interview.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Puzzler on September 01, 2012, 03:57:22 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1208/31/ijvm.01.html

New Heartache for Family of Isabel Celis
Aired August 31, 2012

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


 ISHA SESAY, HLN ANCHOR Jim Moret is in for Jane Velez-Mitchell tonight. And that show starts right now.

JIM MORET, HOST: A painful anniversary comes and goes as the parents of missing Isabel Celis have to remember her birthday without here. I`m Jim Moret from "Inside Edition" in for my friend, Jane Velez-Mitchell. Isabel`s parents speak out. We`ll hear from Isabel`s two brothers for the very first time, next.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
 
MORET (voice-over): Tonight, four months after the disappearance of their little girl, the Celis family quietly celebrates Isabel`s seventh birthday with a church service.

The young girl mysteriously vanished when her father reported her missing from her bedroom in the early morning hours. Police have pored over thousands of clues, searching for answers. We`ll have the very latest on the search for this beautiful little girl.

Then bizarre twists and turns as Drew Peterson`s defense team rests their case. The former cop on trial for allegedly murdering his third wife did not take the stand in his own defense. But his son did, saying he never believed his father killed his mother.

With such gripping testimony, you won`t believe who else the defense team called to the stand and why the prosecution reportedly called it a gift from God.

And new developments in the California slaughterhouse story. Jane brought you that story here last week. The company behind the scandal vows to improve their treatment of animals so they can re-open for business, but are they taking the necessary steps? We`re investigating.

SERGIO CELIS, FATHER OF MISSING GIRL: We love you. And we miss you so much.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Isabel was last seen in this home by her parents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They have been interviewed extensively.

S. CELIS: We are cooperating to the fullest extent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re labeling it as suspicious circumstances and a possible abduction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: New details about what may have happened that Saturday morning.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I remember briefly waking up and hearing male voices outside my bedroom window.

BECKY CELIS, MOTHER OF MISSING GIRL: We are here today to play -- to plea.

S. CELIS: And we will never give up. We will never give up looking for you.

(END VIDEOTAPE)
 
MORET: Tonight, a family desperate to find their little girl after four long months of unanswered questions. And making matters even worse, little Isabel Celis turned 7 this week. Now her family wonders if she will ever come back to them.

We`re going to hear from Isabel`s two brothers for the very first time.
 
You remember that Isabel was just 6 when she vanished from her Tucson, Arizona, home last May. Her dad reported her missing on the morning of April 21 after her mom had left for work as a nurse. Here`s the 911 call.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

B. CELIS (via phone): I went to work this morning at 7. And I just - - I didn`t even come and check on her. I should have come and checked on her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. Just take a deep breath, OK? Does she have any medical conditions?

B. CELIS: No. She has nothing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m sorry. She has what?

B. CELIS: She has nothing. There`s no medical condition. She`s healthy. No allergies, no medical condition.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

B. CELIS: She`s got brown hair.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you hear anything at all?

B. CELIS: No. I didn`t hear anything at all.

(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
MORET: Police say the bedroom window of Isabel`s room was open, with the screen removed. Blood was found in her bedroom. Sex offenders in the neighborhood and Isabel`s family were questioned, but after four months, still no sign of Isabel. And now the family is having to celebrate Isabel`s 7th birthday without her. You can hear in their voices just how difficult that that has been.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
S. CELIS: Happy birthday, Isabel. We love you so much. We love you so much. And we miss you so much. And we want you home so much.

B. CELIS: Happy birthday, baby girl. I love you so much. And I can`t wait to have you in my arms.

(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
MORET: Questions everyone`s asking, what is it going to take to find Isabel? How does a little girl simply vanish from her own bedroom? It`s mind boggling.

Straight out now to Tucson reporter Kevin Keen with KGUN. Kevin, what are the latest developments in this search?

KEVIN KEEN, REPORTER, KGUN (via phone): Well, last night we heard from Tucson police, and we checked in during her -- Isabel`s seventh birthday to see where this case stands. It`s been 131 days since she was reported missing.

Tucson police tell us that this investigation is still very much active, still ongoing. There are dedicated multiple detectives still dedicated to this case and working on no other case. But still at this time there are no suspects. And no one has been ruled out according to Tucson police.

MORET: Now, we`ve never heard from Isabel`s two older brothers until now. I want our audience to hear, because they`re talking about their missing sister. This is from affiliate KOLD. Let`s play that tape.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Every night when we do the rosary I just pray to God to please help us find her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I always pray that I will even see her in my sleep and always dream about her, just to have a blessing of even seeing her in my sleep.

(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
MORET: We found out a couple of weeks ago that Sergio Celis, who was barred from seeing his sons, can now see them again. And you see them standing together. Kevin, whatever came of that?

KEEN: I`m sorry. Could you repeat the question one more time?

MORET: Whatever came of the fact that the father was originally not allowed to see the sons, but now they`re all together again? Has whatever issues were present then been dealt with? Is he being questioned further? Are there suspicions about the father in any way?

KEEN: Yes. Very early on in the investigation what surprised a lot of people and didn`t surprise some people is that he entered a voluntary agreement, agreeing not to come into contact with Isabel`s two older brothers. And so they were separated, and we would never see them together, and we hadn`t heard from the children.

It was maybe about a month ago that we had heard of the family being out and about all together: father, mother and two siblings together. That`s something that we asked them about a couple of weeks ago. And they would not comment on that. But apparently, that voluntary agreement no longer exists, and they`re able to all be together. And that`s a very difficult thing to confirm from authorities, because they`re not allowed to -- this is Child Protective Services doesn`t comment on cases like that.

MORET: Kevin, are you getting a sense from investigators the level of frustration that they`re feeling over this case?

KEEN: That`s something that, of course, we asked about every single day. There were daily press conferences, and then they went to a lot less than that. They wanted to solve this quickly. They knew that the importance of getting the information out right away, getting all the tips that they needed. And they just weren`t able to do that. But they are still on that trail, they tell us.

MORET: That`s Kevin Keen, reporter, KGUN, talking to us live. Thank you for your time.

And on set we`re joined now by Steve Moore, former FBI agent, and John Manuelian, criminal defense attorney. Thanks to both of you.

Steve, as a former FBI agent, when you`re -- when you`re involved in a search -- and I know you`ve been involved in searches such as this before.

STEVE MOORE, FORMER FBI AGENT: Right.

MORET: Time is of the essence.

MOORE: Yes.

MORET: And we heard 131 days. And I`m thinking as a parent every day, every hour is torture. What do you do as an investigator this far out? And are your fears greater now than they would have been if -- you know, a month out?

MOORE: I think candidly, unfortunately, your fears are greater. But your fears are now that you might not solve the case or you might not be able to convict the person you think is responsible for it. The fears about the child, I think, have gone by the wayside. The chances of her being recovered go down every day.

MORET: We have seen cases where...

MOORE: Absolutely.

MORET: Well all`s been lost and suddenly you find the child, sometimes months later, sometimes years later.

MOORE: Absolutely. Elizabeth Smart`s case. But those are the exception. And I think that`s where we`re going here. The police are trying everything they can. This separation, this voluntary separation agreement, this to me smacks of an attempt to put pressure on Sergio for whatever reason. I`m not going to try to read their minds.

MORET: Sure.

MOORE: But it leads me to believe that maybe they had some things they needed from him. At the same time they had to know at the beginning it was non-sustainable. Obviously, they are no longer in that agreement. And that`s got to be a setback for them, because now they no longer have that over him.

MORET: John, looking at this as a defense attorney, criminal defense attorney, what stands out to you? We heard mention of this separation agreement. That seemed strange right from the beginning. What do you see in this case?

JOHN MANUELIAN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, what`s strange to me in this case is not specifically the separation agreement. I find problematic is the blood in the house. Remember, Elizabeth Smart there was no blood found.

MORET: Right.
 
MOORE: Separation agreement could mean something. But again, what`s going to be key to finding this girl are the forensics, the physical evidence, what ties the girl to her being missing.

MANUELIAN: And, Steve, if there`s blood in the house, that would suggest a struggle, which would indicates perhaps she did not know the kidnapper.

MOORE: Could be. Blood in the house doesn`t always indicate a struggle. Or it could be a lot of things that I would really rather not discuss. But a lot of things could happen to a -- to a compliant victim that would result in their blood being in the house.

MORET: And, John, do you think that at this point is the father not officially a suspect, given the fact that he`s allowed to see his other children?

MANUELIAN: I think he`s not a suspect. But, again, we have to wait and see what the father knows, what he says, whether his statements are consistent to, you know, where he was at the time, what he was doing at the time and things like that. I`m sure that authorities have already polygraphed him. If not, they probably will at some point.

MORET: OK. We have to take a break. We`ll be back with more of our coverage right after this. Stay with us. I`m Jim Moret filling in for Jane.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
B. CELIS: It`s tough, because we`re already under a lot of stress because we don`t have use of it here. So to have more thrown on us -- but we`re strong. And we`re -- we`ll be OK. We`ll survive it. We just want her back.

(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
MORET: I`m Jim Moret from "Inside Edition," filling in today for Jane. We`re covering the case of 7-year-old Isabel Celis, missing for 131 days. Now, her birthday just makes this situation even worse.

Take Kyron Horman, for instance. He was 7 when he vanished from his Portland classroom. He will have his tenth birthday in just a couple of weeks.

Let`s go out now to Jon Lieberman, HLN contributor.

Jon, I`ve covered the Kyron Horman case, for example. These kinds of cases are very difficult. You keep your hope alive. But as we`ve heard from Steve Moore, former FBI agent, you know, it`s difficult. The more time that passes, the more problems develop with the case, the colder the leads get.

JON LIEBERMAN, HLN CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, well, Jim, we both covered that case. And miracles do happen.

And I want to underscore, Jim, this is anything but a cold case at this point. And in fact, I`ve seen cases where cops have a lot less to work with then they actually do here in this case. They do have some physical evidence from inside the house, some physical evidence from inside the family car. They have statements from all of the family members. And so police actually do have something to work with here.

Now, obviously, the more the hours go by and the days turn into months, you know, the chances that this poor little girl is going to come home alive obviously decrease. But miracles do happen. And I know for a fact that these cops have two full-time detectives on this case. And they continue to get in leads, as well, that they`re actively following up on.

MORET: In her 911 call, Isabel`s mom clearly in hysterics when police asked if she searched her daughter`s bedroom. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You looked everywhere, under the bed...

B. CELIS: Yes, I looked everywhere. I even looked (UNINTELLIGIBLE). The window`s out of our house. Somebody took the window out of our house.
 
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
 
B. CELIS: Please hurry, please and get here.
 
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re almost there, ma`am, OK?

B. CELIS: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
 
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where is your husband and your kids?

B. CELIS: They`re outside waiting for the cops.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

B. CELIS: Oh, my God.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
MORET: The police later found key evidence in Isabel`s bedroom. The 550-page report that was released by authorities say there were views of apparent blood on the floor. At this point it doesn`t appear we know whose blood that was.

But, Jon Lieberman, when you talk about this being far from a cold case, that`s clearly important evidence. And you want to match it up. You almost have to assume, given the fact that the father`s able to see the young boys again, that it was not his blood. I know that`s a leap, but it is an assumption I`m making here at this point.

LIEBERMAN: Well, but another way to look at it, too, is police, by not coming out and saying they have cleared this family, cleared these parents in this case, you know, they`re also saying as much by saying they`re not clearing them as if they came out and said that they were suspects or persons of interest.

So one thing, Jim, is that police are holding back some important information, as well, that wasn`t released in those documents so that they can use that information to either contradict or corroborate what some of the -- of the witness statements have been. Presumably the parents and the others who might know, you know, what happened to this little girl.

MORET: Steve Moore, former FBI agent, Jon makes a great point. He says we haven`t heard the officials clear the family. So we know blood was found. That`s an interesting point, though.

MOORE: It`s a very interesting point. Quite often you learn more about what`s not been done and what`s not been said by -- than what you learn by what has been said.

The fact that they haven`t cleared the parents officially is troublesome to me, because that would seem to be the first thing you`d want to do in your investigation. At least if I was doing a kidnapping, I`d want to get the parents out of the way to get their lives back at least that much.

MORET: John Manuelian, criminal defense attorney, are you troubled -- if you represented this family would you be troubled they haven`t been cleared at this point?

MANUELIAN: No. Because I believe the investigation is ongoing. There`s probably a lot of unanswered answers. There`s physical evidence that they need to corroborate and statements they need to corroborate. And it`s not going to be very fast; it doesn`t trouble me at this point.

BLITZER: And we`re going to cover more on this on the other side of the break. Stay with us. Don`t go anywhere.
 
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you`re both natural parents of the child?

S. CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. So no stepparents? Any problems with any grandparents?

S. CELIS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re not having any family issues? Anything like that?

S. CELIS: No.

(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
MORET: Covering this case, two young sisters got into a whole lot of trouble when they called 911 pretending to be Isabel Celis.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine-one-one, what is the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s Isabel.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: None-one-one, what is your emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Isabel.

(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
MORET: That was clearly a prank. Could these prank calls by these two sisters, ages 9 and 11, actually be a good investigative tool? Say, hypothetically, a key individual in the case knew the child was deceased. When cops tell that person, "We just got a phone call from Isabel," would that person`s reaction be revealing?

Jon Lieberman, what have we heard, if anything, about these two sisters? They`re obviously young. You know, we`ve heard about kids doing stupid things before. Is it that or something more?

LIEBERMAN: Yes, unfortunately for this investigation, Jim, it appears that this is just two kids prank calling, frankly, on a Sunday morning, a series of three calls. These 9- -- this 9- and 11-year-old girls.

And unfortunately, at this point it doesn`t look like there`s anything of any investigative value here. This was just poor judgment and perhaps lax oversight by the parents, as well. But it doesn`t look like -- A, it doesn`t look like the two are going to be charged. And, B, it doesn`t look like it`s going to come up with anything firm for the investigation.

MORET: John Manuelian, criminal defense attorney, you get information like this, and you think, well, maybe it`s something -- it`s probably just two kids doing something stupid. Does it muddy up the investigation?

MANUELIAN: Sure. Actually, I disagree. I think it could be a crime if it`s obstructing or delaying an investigation in any way. That could be a misdemeanor charge or a smaller charge.

MORET: Does it -- does it hurt the investigative process?

MANUELIAN: It could, because it takes away the resources of the police department, and it goes on a different lead. So it could absolutely delay an investigation, criminal investigation.

MORET: Steve Moore, as a former FBI agent, what does something like this do to an investigation? You clearly do take resources away.

MOORE: Yes.

MORET: And it`s a detour that could take you a day, a week or longer.

MOORE: R.J. said it right. It can take time away. And every minute is valuable. If that takes eight hours to run down, then it`s going to take more than that of detective time. It`s like calling in a fake fire alarm and then somebody across town dying of a heart attack because the fire engine was not in the station. It could be crucially bad or it can have very little effect.

MORET: And at some point as an investigator do you pull back resources and say, "Look, we`re not getting anywhere. We have to delay this." It`s not a cold case, but it`s not as active as it was earlier on?

MOORE: That`s -- that`s when your boss -- your bosses do that to you. You never want to pull back. You never want to stop. This is -- I guarantee you these detectives are living this and don`t want to give up one minute of their time towards and don`t want it to be back-burnered.

MORET: Well, this won`t be a back burner for us. We will continue to follow the case of Isabel Celis and be back with more on JANE VELEZ- MITCHELL right after this. Stay with us.


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New Developments in Isabel Celis Mystery

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL starts right now.

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Tonight, new information in the mysterious disappearance of 6-year-old Isabel Celis, who vanished from her bedroom five months ago. An extraordinary new video has posted on her Facebook Page. We`re going to talk to somebody who helped make that movie and to a reporter in Tucson who has been covering the case from the start. And I`ve got hundreds of pages of police documents we`re going to analyze. Is this precious child still alive?

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VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Tonight, a slew of new developments in the disappearance of little Isabel Celis. The Tucson girl mysteriously vanished from her bedroom five months ago without a trace. Now, her parents mark Isabel`s seventh birthday without her as a movie about the little girl goes viral.

Plus, hundreds of pages of police documents reveal a boot print outside the home, a mystery liquid and much more. We`re taking your calls.
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SERGIO CELIS, ISABEL`S FATHER: We love you. And we miss you so much.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Isabel was last seen in this home by her parents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They have been interviewed extensively.

S. CELIS: We are cooperating to the fullest extent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re labeling it as suspicious circumstances and possible abduction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: New details about what may have happened that Saturday morning.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I remember briefly waking up and hearing male voices outside my bedroom window.

BECKY CELIS, ISABEL`S MOTHER: We are here today to play -- to plea.

S. CELIS: And we will never give up. We will never give up looking for you.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, a never-before-seen glimpse inside the home of missing Isabel Celis.

Good evening. I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you live. This adorable 6-year-old vanished five long months ago. She disappeared without a trace from her Tucson, Arizona, bedroom all while the family was, well, they say sleeping inside. Her mom, her father and two brothers.

Police say the case is nowhere near being cold. Is it possible they`re getting closer to finding out what happened to Isabel?

Here`s the photo her family put on their Facebook Page called "Find Isa." The family wrote hope continues inside their home as they paint Isabel`s room just as she wanted, pink and purple polka dots.

And we found this incredible YouTube video from the same Facebook Page. Check it out.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please, dear Lord, bring Isabel home. Amen.

(MUSIC)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: In a moment, an exclusive interview with the family friend who made that movie.

Isabel Celis was reported missing five months ago. Here`s how it all went down.

Isabel`s dad said the family came home late on April 20 after a baseball game. And he says he fell asleep in the living room after putting Isa to bed in a room close by. But he says he woke up and moved to his own bed at 5 a.m.

Isabel`s mom left for work at 7 a.m. But she says she did not check on Isa.

That same morning, April 21, Dad says he discovered Isabel missing. Here is the first 911 call.

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S. CELIS: I need to report a missing child. I believe she was abducted from my house.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And how old?

S. CELIS: Six years old.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is it your daughter?

S. CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why do you think she was abducted?

S. CELIS: I have no idea. We woke up this morning, I went to go get her for her baseball game and she`s gone. I...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Right away dad Sergio Celis tells police he believes his little girl`s been abducted.

What do you think happened to Isabel? Call me: 1-877-JVM-SAYS, 1-877- 586-7297.

Straight out to investigative reporter, HLN contributor Jon Lieberman. Jon, I am holding hundreds of police documents in my hand. Tucson Police Department supplemental narrative, et cetera, you have studied these hundreds of pages. What are the bombshells you found?

JON LIEBERMAN, HLN CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. In these almost 600 pages of documents, Jane, what stuck out to me as the bombshells are the potential physical evidence, the pieces of evidence that police found at the scene in and around Isabel`s home.

Let me go through a few of them with you. No. 1, footprints in the alley south of the home. Very important. Shoe impressions on the top of an electrical box directly behind the family home. What appears to be blood on the floor of little Isabel`s bedroom.

And then from inside a car that was parked right outside of the home, a white hat and a vinyl shower curtain with dark red/brown or brown stains. Obviously, police believe this is blood. And also a positive Luminol reason on the driver`s seat -- the front seat -- the front driver`s seat of the car. Obviously, Luminol identifies traces of blood.

So it`s these pieces of physical evidence that are extremely important in this investigation. And we know that this was all sent to the lab for DNA workups on all of this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but this happened several months ago. We have to know, for example, the blood, what was the result of that test? Is it Isabel`s blood found in her bedroom? Or is it somebody else`s? We`re not getting any information.

Now here`s something we do know. One neighbor recalled hearing her dogs bark like crazy in the early morning hours on the day that Isabel vanished. Were they alerting to some kind of disturbance? Listen to this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, at 6:30 in the morning on Saturday I woke up. My dogs were going crazy. Their dogs were going nuts. And I remember briefly waking up and hearing male voices outside my bedroom window. But it was light outside. I didn`t really think anything of it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to go to Kevin Keen, a reporter with KGUN out of Tucson, Arizona. You`ve been covering this from the very start. I understand that there have been more than 2,000 leads that police are pursuing. But what do we know? Have they confirmed anything for us?

KEVIN KEEN, REPORTER, KGUN: Well, as in the first early days of this investigation it`s been difficult to get a lot of detail about what investigators have, the information that they have and how they are pursuing it, who they`ve talked to.

But we do know that this day, I just checked today, that there are still two detectives full-time working on this case and no other case. And if new leads come in, they`re not afraid to bring on more detectives. So they are actively investigating.

And also the FBI is still a partner in this case. They came in early on to share some expertise. And I know that they`re still in contact with Tucson Police Department as they continue to investigate this missing person, this abduction.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What was it about the screen, if I remember?

KEEN: Can you say that one more time?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: The screen on the window. What was it about the screen on the window of the little girl`s bedroom?

KEEN: That from an early on we had many questions about and didn`t get many answers about. Those documents that you may have some indication of the interest there that I don`t have too many specific details about that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m going to get back to that in a little bit. Because the missing screen, if in fact there was a missing screen, would immediately point to the possibility of a stranger abduction, which we have seen. So that`s key. We`re going to get to that.

Now, in her 911 call, Isabel`s mother was hysterical when police asked if she searched her daughter`s bedroom. Listen to this. This is Becky.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You looked everywhere? Under the bed?

B. CELIS: Yes, I looked everywhere. The windows out of our house. Somebody took the window out of our house.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re almost there, ma`am, OK? Where is your husband and your kids?

B. CELIS: They`re outside waiting for the cops.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.

B. CELIS: Oh, my God.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. So that kind of answered the question, took the window out of our house. Obviously, there was some tampering or removal of part of a window or the screen that led the family to say immediately it was an abduction.

I want to go out to Octavio Corrales, we want to play some of your amazing video you`ve made along with your friends, the Flight Team. Friends and family of Isabel. People in the neighborhood who care.

You work, I understand, with Becky, the missing child`s mother. You hear her hysterical on that 911 call. I understand she`s a nurse. Is she back at work? And how is she faring, Octavio?

OCTAVIO CORRALES, FAMILY FRIEND (via phone): She is back at work. And under the conditions and circumstances, I think she`s doing very well. You know, she has a lot of people, co-workers around her that love her and support her, so we give her that support.

And, you know, she shares her stories of Isabel with us on a daily basis. And, you know, her remodeling the room. And she asked us, you know, what we think. And, you know, which allows us to help her decorate it herself. She`s doing very well.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Does she have any theories about what happened to her daughter?

CORRALES: We really -- we really don`t discuss any of that. We just have -- all have the hope that she`s going to come home safely soon. So we just keep a positive note on that. And we really don`t discuss with her anything that has to do with how it could have happened, who could have done it. We don`t -- we don`t bring that up with her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And she doesn`t bring it up either?

CORRALES: No. No, she doesn`t.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Staying pretty mum on that. All right, Octavio. Excellent video. Hang in there. We`re going to take a very brief break.

On the other side we`re going to analyze with a team of investigators. And we`ve got more new information. Stay right there.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

(MUSIC)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (singing): We got to get Isabel home safe why are we waiting? We ain`t got no time to waste tell me where do we go from here.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: A truly extraordinary new video by the Flight Team that is designed to raise funds to continue the investigation into finding missing Isabel Celis as she`s been missing for several months. And this is really just hitting big time now. In fact, if you go to HLNTV.com/Jane, you`re going to be able to buy it. It goes on iTunes on Monday. So this is -- this is new.

Octavio, you were involved in this video. Was it the frustration of the fact that the case really wasn`t getting there month after month after month that inspired you to say, hey, let`s do something. I mean, I see hundreds of people involved in this.

ORRALES: Well, the project really came together a few days after I heard that Isabel went missing. It was just something that I felt needed to be done. And my part of the community in helping bring her home. The song came about with some friends of mine. And we wanted to bring more awareness. And we wanted to put -- I basically wanted to put a soul to just to the face on a poster. I didn`t just want to be a missing person, a missing child.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Octavio?

CORRALES: Yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Can I jump in? How did Becky react? And because people are wondering why aren`t the parents talking? I mean, just the other day -- we`ll get to this -- we did a story on a missing girl and she was found, thank God. I would be talking until I was blue in the face, anybody who would listen. People are wondering why don`t they speak up? Why don`t they do interviews?

CORRALES: They are doing interviews. And Becky and her family are out. And they do a lot of events around town. They do anything that`s happening with the community. They`re there at the booth. She`s vocal. She`s speaking to the public. She`s out doing, you know, what she can to help find Isabel.

And part of this song -- this whole point of this song is just getting it out there and keeping the message out there to keep looking and keep searching for her. But Becky is very active in speaking about Isabel.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, Octavio, I want to thank you for an extraordinary video and for getting involved. This is what people should do, is get involved when you have a family in crisis, when you have a missing child. My hat`s off to you and the entire Flight Team. And keep us posted.

Now, let`s listen to the dad, the father, Sergio, as he made that initial 911 call. Remember, he has just discovered his little girl is missing. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is Mom there also?

S. CELIS: She had just left for work. I just called her and I told her to get her butt home. (LAUGHTER)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, listen to him four days later as he publicly pleads for his daughter`s return.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

S. CELIS: Tell us your demands. Tell us what you want. We will do anything for her. We are looking -- we are looking for you, Isa. We love you. And we miss you so much.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mark Eiglarsh, criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor. You`ve been listening as we`ve gotten all this information. What do you make of the status and the state of this investigation?

MARK EIGLARSH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: All right. Well, let`s start with the dad. Look I`ve been relieved of the burden of judgment. So I don`t want to point the finger at him.

But you couple the call that he made plus 911, and I don`t know, Jane. I once had my bike stolen. And I had the same affect when I called in to the police. I mean, his daughter was taken. I would sound a bit more like the mother.

Now, again, I`m not a psychology major. I don`t know about certain cultures, certain people. Maybe there`s something to do with that, and that`s why he`s not screaming and he`s not crazy.

But I`ll tell you this: most law enforcement would keep their eye on him, because statistically, usually, it`s not somebody from the outside. Usually, there`s somebody on the inside involved. I`m not saying he did anything.

From the documents I read, Jane, there`s absolutely nothing in my opinion that advances where this child is and who might be responsible for her disappearance.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jon Lieberman, you want to get in there?

LIEBERMAN: Well, to Mark`s point, what I want to say, what`s even more important is that the police have not ruled out the dad. And this is extremely important. Generally, very early on in an investigation, police will publicly say, "We have ruled out the parents." And they have not done that in this case. And I think Mark will tell you that is extremely significant.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, on the other side of the break we are going to -- go ahead, Mark.

EIGLARSH: Well, it just means -- again, he could be completely innocent. I`m a defense lawyer. I know that they could just be keeping it open, because you just never know. But certainly, somebody believes that there`s reason to keep that conclusion still there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I just want to say that nobody has been named a person of interest or a suspect in this case. And there`s more information we have on the dad. And so we`re going to -- he`s a dental -- I understand he`s a dental technician and he also sings opera. We`re going to get to more of that on the other side.

And Lisa, Ontario, hang in there. We`re going to get to you on the other side. Stay right there.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

B. CELIS: It`s tough, because we`re already under a lot of stress, because we don`t have Isa here. So to have more thrown on us, but we`re strong. And we`re -- we`ll be OK. We`ll survive it. We just want her back.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s been five long months. There is the mother of this beautiful missing child who turned seven just a few days ago. Where is Isabel Celis, who vanished inside her bedroom five months ago?

Let`s go out to the phone lines. Lisa, Ontario, thank you for your patience. Your question or thought, Lisa?

CALLER: Well, hello there, Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hi.

CALLER: Like I usually say, thank you for helping the victims and their family and these terrible crimes.

My two points I have to make, or comments are, No. 1, when the father called 911 or the police division in the area, how come his voice is not in distress? No. 1.

And No. 2, I remember one call that you led us here months ago, at one point he was laughing during the call. That`s my other point, please.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you make an important point that there was -- I think when he said he told his wife, who was working at the hospital, to get her butt home. And he kind of chuckled. And a lot of people, I think we just played that, actually, jumped at that and said, "Oh, my gosh, would you have that reaction?"

Now, Levi Page, crime blogger extraordinaire of "The Levi Page Show," at one point the police chief said, quote, "A voluntary agreement had been reached between Child Protective Services and the parents to restrict access, voluntarily, for Sergio, the dad, to get some space and distance away from the two older children, those two boys."

That has since ended. They`re together. These two go hither and yon together. What are your thoughts, given that police have not named any suspects?

LEVI PAGE, CRIME BLOGGER: I think it`s very strange, Jane. And I think that that tells us that there`s some deep secrets in this family.

We know for a fact that Child Protective Services was at the home and investigating this family before Isabel vanished in December. So I think that this family has some secrets that we don`t know about. And I think it would be interesting to know what exactly those are. That might be why the family`s remaining quiet, because they have something to hide.

And also, Jane, regarding the window that you were talking about, according to the father, he told the police that one of his sons went outside and found the window -- the screen of the window laying on the ground outside. So that clears that up.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. And I don`t have any independent confirmation that Department of Children and Families visited this home prior to the disappearance of Isabel. You`re telling us that. But I cannot independently confirm that.

And I would like to go to some more callers, because they`re lining up all over the place. And a lot of people are wondering, well.

But I have to tell you, you can never really judge somebody by their reaction, because people go into shock. And they also go into denial. And quite often, that denial makes them behave in a certain way that they wouldn`t otherwise.

So it seems sort of obvious like, oh, he`s not hysterical like the mother is. Therefore, he might have something to do with it. But men often react that way psychologically. OK.

More on the other side.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s a parent`s worst nightmare.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They were in tears while they were praying. They looked very, very sad.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Six-year-old Isabel Mercedes Celis was gone, missing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was checked on this morning at about 8 a.m. when her father went in to wake her up so that they could start their day. Found that she was not in her room at that point.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The window was pushed open.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have bloodhounds that are checking the area, as well, to pick up any scent of the girl.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Isabel`s parents were questioned all night long. We asked the police chief if they`d been ruled out as suspects in the disappearance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The family has been cooperating with us. They`re currently with detectives at this point. But we`re not ruling out anything in this investigation.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That`s just not a possibility. If you knew this family, these two have -- they`ve been married -- they`ve been together since they were teenagers. There`s no separating...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Where is little Isabel Celis? She`s been missing for five long months. And now a new video has just been created in order to fund an investigation into her disappearance. Check it out. It`s extraordinary.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please, dear Lord, bring Isabel home.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (singing): Sitting outside with a flashlight I keep having flashbacks of last night. The whole neighborhood searching for this young girl. We`re all waiting for the truth as it uncurls. I see the media broken heart families, see them come together for a tragedy. And see it gives me hope to see that people care.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And the family of the missing girl has just released a photo -- this photo of them painting Isabel`s room -- polka dots.

Criminal defense attorney Mark Eiglarsh, we have almost 600 pages here, Tucson Police Department supplemental narrative et cetera, there`s all sorts of things. You see there was some spilled fluid, there were fresh shoe prints, there was a rug, there`s apparent bloodstains in Isabel`s bedroom. Police seized a vinyl shower curtain, a white hat.

I mean, the list goes on and on. But how do we get a cohesive picture from those puzzle pieces because a lot of it could be meaningless? I could go outside wherever we are and find a rug just in the alley back there and some liquid. It would mean nothing.

MARK EIGLARSH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Not to minimize anybody`s hope, but that pretty much was my response going through every single page. And I started with optimism. I go, great, I`ll spend the time going through a hundred or so documents and I`m filled with enthusiasm to find out, ok, where might she be, what clues do they have?

And Jane, every single item that was removed, every piece of evidence to me was innocuous. As a defense lawyer, as a human being -- anyone with common sense I was going, "Oh, really, they found a rug in an alleyway? There`s footprints outside of a house?" None of that to me suggests that there was any true leads and any suspects waiting to be caught and any indication of where this girl might be unfortunately.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Let`s go out to the phone lines. Christina, British Columbia, your question or thought, Christina.

CHRISTINA, BRITISH COLUMBIA (via telephone): Hi. Thank you for taking my call.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Sure.

CHRISTINA: I`m also suspicious of the father. There`s video camera. And I know people react differently in times of trauma. But he just sounds very phony also when he`s asking for help and we`ll never give up looking for you.

My question is, I have never heard if anybody confirmed him coming home the night before with the little girl? I understand the mother did not check on her daughter before work in the morning. But who was there the night before when they came home late?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, here`s my understanding. They have two older boys. I think one is a teen and we don`t know exactly the age of the other, but they`re older than Isabel. And they`ve gone to a baseball game of one of the boys I think. And then they came home and the mother braided the daughter`s hair, got her ready for bed, put her to bed. She went to bed.

Dad was supposedly watching a baseball game on television. May have DVR`d it and fell asleep, he says. He fell asleep around 10:30 after the daughter was put to bed in a room right on the other side of the wall. Then he says he wakes up at 5:00 in the morning -- so from 10:30, he wakes up 5:00 in the morning and he goes back to his own bed. Then the mother wakes up at 7:00, goes to work and then after that she doesn`t check because she`s going to work as a nurse. She`s leaving early in the morning. Then after that the dad wakes up and says he notices his daughter is missing.

Now, when Isabel`s father called 911, the operator grilled him; are there any issues going on in the family? Listen to this

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you`re both natural parents of the child?

FATHER OF ISABEL CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So no stepparents? Any problems with any grandparent?

FATHER OF ISABEL CELIS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s not having any family issues, anything like that?

FATHER OF ISABEL CELIS: No.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, I want to go to my producer Selin Darkalstanian; she`s at our Los Angeles bureau. We sent her to Tucson twice. So she is very well-acquainted with this story.

What`s with the family today? Because we know at one point Department of Children and Families said to the dad "Do not have contact with the sons". But that`s changed. Tell us about that.

SELIN DARKALSTANIAN, HLN PRODUCEWR: Right. Originally when she first went missing the dad was told by Child Protective Services to stay away. He was living in a separate residence away from the mom and the two sons, Isabel`s brothers. But today, they`re all living back at the house together; life is somewhat back to normal. They walked down the street to their grandparents` house, remember.

All the neighbors I talked to today say that they walk up and down the street as a family to the grandma`s, they come back. They go to work. But one of the neighbors did tell me that ever since this incident occurred they keep to themselves. They don`t really socialize with the other neighbors. They don`t really talk to everyone else anymore; they kind of keep to themselves. And they just go and come and the neighbors kind of stay away from them and that`s just the way it is.

So whatever happened, the dad is allowed to be back with the Celis family now. So something happened that he`s allowed to be back in that family.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jon Leiberman, this is where there`s a disconnect -- their friend, Octavio, who put together this fabulous video along with some other friends, the Flight Team, he says she`s out there all the time. She`s willing to talk to anybody. We`ve been trying to get her to come on this show. And we would love to have her on.

Now we`re hearing they kind of keep to themselves, but they`re together. They`re together. The husband and the wife, the parents of this girl, are together.

JON LEIBERMAN, HLN CONTRIBUTOR: Look, you hit the nail on the head. And this is why police are not releasing more of what they have. Because I`m telling you they are using what they have to either contradict or corroborate the family`s statements. They are looking hard at this family -- make no mistake about that, Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I got to tell you, there was another bizarre twist to all this. Two young sisters, we`re talking young kids in this very area, got into a whole lot of hot water recently because they called 911 three different times pretending to be the missing Isabel. More than 25 officers responded to the calls. Listen to this.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 911, what is the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s Isabel.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 911, what is your emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Isabel.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, not only did this upset the family of the missing child tremendously, but remember police have spent huge amounts, I think well over a million dollars on this investigation, and they had to spend more because of these pranks.

Levi Page, that is absolutely extraordinary. And I don`t know if the parents ended up being fined, but what a horrible twist.

LEVI PAGE, CRIME BLOGGER: Well, I do know that those two that were involved in that were sent to a juvenile detention center. They were released. So they are facing consequences for what they did. And they deserve to because this is a very high profile case. This is a missing child who could have possibly been abducted, possibly killed. Foul play could be involved here.

You don`t play around with these types of investigations and make prank phone calls like that. And it`s sad that they did that and wasted resources of the community, of the police officers. They want to find out who took her or who killed her.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, thank you fantastic panel. We are staying on top of this.

And, Becky or Sergio, we would love to have either or all of you -- both of you on, or family members. We want to keep your daughter`s face out there so we can solve this terrible mystery.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on September 25, 2012, 01:18:11 PM
Video at link

http://www.kvoa.com/news/celis-family-says-faith-keeps-them-going/#!prettyPhoto/0/

Celis family says faith keeps them going
Posted: Sep 24, 2012 8:39 PM
Updated: Sep 24, 2012 11:35 PM

TUCSON - Five months since she disappeared from her family's eastside home, there is still no sign of Isabel Celis.
 
The manhunt for the then 6-year-old has scaled back but a team of investigators is devoted to her case full time.
 ::snipping2::
Tucson police tell News 4 there is nothing they can share with the public at this time.
 
But Isa's family continues to ask for the public's help with information and prayers.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on October 18, 2012, 12:19:56 PM
Read Transcript at:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13108.msg1542634#msg1542634

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1210/17/ijvm.01.html
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

Parents Hold out Hope of Finding Isabel Celis

Aired October 17, 2012 - 19:00   ET
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on October 23, 2012, 02:20:42 PM
Video at link

http://nbclatino.com/2012/10/22/tucson-missing-girls-parents-frustrated-with-lack-of-leads-after-six-months/

Tucson missing girl’s parents frustrated with lack of leads after six months
5:41 pm on 10/22/2012
 
It has been six months since Isabel Celis disappeared from her east side home. Her seventh birthday has come and gone and still no sign of her.
 
Her parents told investigators they last saw her before she went to bed on Friday, April 20th and reported her missing the next morning. A massive search ensued, one that made national headlines.
 
Tucson police reported receiving more than 1,000 tips but all came up empty.
 
As the months have gone by Rebecca and Sergio Celis continue to struggle with not knowing what happened to their daughter.
 
At this point they admit they have grown very frustrated with the investigation, one that has even cast suspicion over Sergio Celis. “I can’t understand at the six month point how they have absolutely nothing, to have nothing, and if it was me, why wouldn’t they have me gone already, I’m not afraid to say that”, Celis said, “Even Becky (Rebecca Celis) says it to everyone, c’mon, when are we going to move on this, digging in the same hole. Can we get out there, because she is not here, in the first three days of the investigation of staying here, she’s not here, she hasn’t been here since the moment she has been gone from this house.”
 
Rebecca Celis says they now have very little contact with the police and their frustration is reaching the breaking point, “Its very frustrating”, she said, “it’s hard to not know where the investigation is.”
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on October 30, 2012, 11:08:27 PM
Video at link

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Missing-Tucson-girls-parents-We-feel-like-shes-in-California-176500691.html

Missing Tucson girl's mother: I feel like she's in California
Posted on October 30, 2012 at 6:28 PM
Updated today at 6:40 PM

 ::snipping2::
So much so, the family is now working with a private investigator in California.
 
The PI has a background in law enforcement and was recommended to Sergio's sister.
 
"I can't say that they're following up on different leads, but maybe different angles that the police were not investigating," Sergio said.
 
The family has spoken to the PI once or twice they said via conference calls.
 
"I feel like she's somewhere north or in California somewhere out there," Becky said.
 
The parents believe Isabel is in California because of a strong tip that came in. They don’t believe she is in Arizona.
 
Sergio said any new information is given directly to the Tucson Police Department, who he said he is frustrated with.
 
"The fact that communication has been what is has been for two to three months, which is non-existent," Sergio said.
 
The upset father also accused detectives of not following up on a lead for several weeks.
 
"That is, that is I want to say unacceptable. How could that be?" questioned Sergio.
 
Via email a spokesperson addressed that question to 3TV:
 
"With respect to the information you received from the Celis family, I am not sure what tip they are specifically referring to. However, I can assure you that each and every tip received is thoroughly investigated. In addition, some tips cause investigators to go back and conduct additional review of previous tips that were received. The detectives and analysts that continue the investigative efforts are meticulous in their examination of every tip received. Nothing is ever "ignored." Detectives are always available to the Celis family. I am not sure who they were specifically trying to get in touch with or when," said Sgt. Maria Hawke.
 
Sgt. Chris Widmer said during an on-camera interview that two detectives are still working on this case, and at times they are used for other cases, too.
 
3TV asked to speak with the chief of police for an update and we're told he wasn’t available because there aren't any new updates.
 
More than 2,000 leads have come in, but Widmer said the incoming tips are slowing down.
 
Widmer could not answer questions specific to details of the investigation.
 
"We release what we can to the public without interfering with the investigation," Widmer said. "There may be details that we're holding, but there's a purpose for it."
 
We're told sex offenders in Isabel's neighborhood have been interviewed once, twice up to four times if needed
 
No one has been ruled out as suspects, not even Isabel’s relatives or parents.
 
The Celises said they aren't planning on moving or changing their phone number, hoping to hear Isabel's voice soon.
 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on October 30, 2012, 11:30:06 PM
Video at link

http://nbclatino.com/2012/10/22/tucson-missing-girls-parents-frustrated-with-lack-of-leads-after-six-months/

Tucson missing girl’s parents frustrated with lack of leads after six months
5:41 pm on 10/22/2012
 
It has been six months since Isabel Celis disappeared from her east side home. Her seventh birthday has come and gone and still no sign of her.
 
Her parents told investigators they last saw her before she went to bed on Friday, April 20th and reported her missing the next morning. A massive search ensued, one that made national headlines.
 
Tucson police reported receiving more than 1,000 tips but all came up empty.
 
As the months have gone by Rebecca and Sergio Celis continue to struggle with not knowing what happened to their daughter.
 
At this point they admit they have grown very frustrated with the investigation, one that has even cast suspicion over Sergio Celis. “I can’t understand at the six month point how they have absolutely nothing, to have nothing, and if it was me, why wouldn’t they have me gone already, I’m not afraid to say that”, Celis said, “Even Becky (Rebecca Celis) says it to everyone, c’mon, when are we going to move on this, digging in the same hole. Can we get out there, because she is not here, in the first three days of the investigation of staying here, she’s not here, she hasn’t been here since the moment she has been gone from this house.”
 
Rebecca Celis says they now have very little contact with the police and their frustration is reaching the breaking point, “Its very frustrating”, she said, “it’s hard to not know where the investigation is.” ::snipping2::


As opposed to "it's hard not knowing where our daughter is"??!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Northern Rose on November 02, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
Halloween was a heartache for missing girl Isabel Celis family (VIDEO)

3:19 pm on 11/01/2012

TUCSON – It’s been six months since Isabel Celis disappeared.

As families across the nation celebrate Halloween, her family still holds out hope that the 7-year-old will come home.

Frustrated with the police investigation, the Celis family has now hired private investigators.

http://nbclatino.com/2012/11/01/halloween-was-a-heartache-for-missing-girl-isabel-celis-family/


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 04, 2012, 12:55:54 PM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ijvm.01.html
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

What Happened to Isabel Celis?; Duchess Catherine Pregnant

Aired December 3, 2012 - 19:00   ET



Transcript also available at:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13108.msg1547635#msg1547635


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on December 04, 2012, 07:36:10 PM
Video at link

http://nbclatino.com/2012/10/22/tucson-missing-girls-parents-frustrated-with-lack-of-leads-after-six-months/

Tucson missing girl’s parents frustrated with lack of leads after six months
5:41 pm on 10/22/2012
 
It has been six months since Isabel Celis disappeared from her east side home. Her seventh birthday has come and gone and still no sign of her.
 
Her parents told investigators they last saw her before she went to bed on Friday, April 20th and reported her missing the next morning. A massive search ensued, one that made national headlines.
 
Tucson police reported receiving more than 1,000 tips but all came up empty.
 
As the months have gone by Rebecca and Sergio Celis continue to struggle with not knowing what happened to their daughter.
 
At this point they admit they have grown very frustrated with the investigation, one that has even cast suspicion over Sergio Celis. “I can’t understand at the six month point how they have absolutely nothing, to have nothing, and if it was me, why wouldn’t they have me gone already, I’m not afraid to say that”, Celis said, “Even Becky (Rebecca Celis) says it to everyone, c’mon, when are we going to move on this, digging in the same hole. Can we get out there, because she is not here, in the first three days of the investigation of staying here, she’s not here, she hasn’t been here since the moment she has been gone from this house.”
 
Rebecca Celis says they now have very little contact with the police and their frustration is reaching the breaking point, “Its very frustrating”, she said, “it’s hard to not know where the investigation is.” ::snipping2::


As opposed to "it's hard not knowing where our daughter is"??!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
BBM   ::MonkeyEek::  What a thing to say considering the circumstances!


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: yuknomenot on December 05, 2012, 08:26:21 AM
Video at link

http://nbclatino.com/2012/10/22/tucson-missing-girls-parents-frustrated-with-lack-of-leads-after-six-months/

Tucson missing girl’s parents frustrated with lack of leads after six months
5:41 pm on 10/22/2012
 
It has been six months since Isabel Celis disappeared from her east side home. Her seventh birthday has come and gone and still no sign of her.
 
Her parents told investigators they last saw her before she went to bed on Friday, April 20th and reported her missing the next morning. A massive search ensued, one that made national headlines.
 
Tucson police reported receiving more than 1,000 tips but all came up empty.
 
As the months have gone by Rebecca and Sergio Celis continue to struggle with not knowing what happened to their daughter.
 
At this point they admit they have grown very frustrated with the investigation, one that has even cast suspicion over Sergio Celis. “I can’t understand at the six month point how they have absolutely nothing, to have nothing, and if it was me, why wouldn’t they have me gone already, I’m not afraid to say that”, Celis said, “Even Becky (Rebecca Celis) says it to everyone, c’mon, when are we going to move on this, digging in the same hole. Can we get out there, because she is not here, in the first three days of the investigation of staying here, she’s not here, she hasn’t been here since the moment she has been gone from this house.”
 
Rebecca Celis says they now have very little contact with the police and their frustration is reaching the breaking point, “Its very frustrating”, she said, “it’s hard to not know where the investigation is.” ::snipping2::


As opposed to "it's hard not knowing where our daughter is"??!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
BBM   ::MonkeyEek::  What a thing to say considering the circumstances!
::rhino::. I can't help it, as much as I fight it, these people have given me an Anthony family vibe from day 1.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on February 26, 2013, 12:29:08 AM
Video at link

http://www.kvoa.com/news/isabel-celis-missing-300-days-family-still-hopeful-for-safe-return/#!prettyPhoto/0/

Isabel Celis missing 300 days, family still hopeful for safe return
Posted: Feb 15, 2013 2:06 PM by Sam Salzwedel
Updated: Feb 15, 2013 2:06 PM

TUCSON - It has been 300 days since Isabel Celis went missing.
 
Isa's parents, Becky and Sergio Celis, have returned to work and are still raising their 2 sons.
 
"It's been as long as it has been and not to have her back," Becky Celis said, "that's harder for me."
 
They say they do not have any problems with people like coworkers asking about the case.
 
"They're just extremely supportive," Sergio Celis said, "and they leave it up to me if I want to mention anything or say anything."
 ::snipping2::
They have hired private investigators and try to talk to Tucson Police every few weeks.
 
The parents have no feelings or guesses about where Isa might be.
 
There are no major updates in the case, but police still have staff working full-time on the investigation, according to Tucson Police.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on February 26, 2013, 04:58:09 PM
thank you for the update.
I still think the parents know a whole lot more than has ever been said.
JMO


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 26, 2013, 06:50:45 PM
thank you for the update.
I still think the parents know a whole lot more than has ever been said.
JMO

(Bolded by me)

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2013, 11:26:14 PM
http://www.kvoa.com/news/one-year-later-celis-family-keeps-their-faith/
One year later: Celis family keeps their faith
April 18, 2013

TUCSON - As time passes it's easy for hope to fade, but in this dark time nearly one year after the disappearance for their daughter Isabel, the Celis family clings to their faith keeping hope alive.
 ::snipping2::
On Sunday, events begin with a Mass at 9:15 at Saint Joseph's church on 215 S. Craycroft Rd.
That's followed by a safety and awareness fundraiser at Peter Piper Pizza across from Park Place Mall.

There will be arts, crafts, Ben's Bells and fingerprinting for children.

Donations will also be accepted through Wells Fargo: Bring Isa Home account.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
http://www.kvoa.com/news/a-look-at-the-volunteer-effort-to-bring-isabel-home/
A look at the volunteer effort to bring Isabel home
April 21, 2013


TUCSON-This weekend the Tucson Community is coming together to support the Ceils family. It was a year ago the family's 6-year-old daughter disappeared.

News 4 spoke with the volunteers about their efforts and all the fundraising to help bring Isabel home.

Valerie Ballesteros, Rachel Byrnes, and Loreena Corral all work at Tucson Medical Center with Becky Celis, Isabel's mother. The three women are organizing a Day of Awareness.

They're buying 365 purple balloons so that children attending the event can release them.

They're also buying purple beads Isa's favorite color. It's also color that also symbolizes hope.
Valerie Ballesteros says, "We want to keep hope alive."

Rachel Byrnes, says "This was an eye opening event for all of us. It totally made us aware of where our children are and what they are doing. God forbid something happen to them would we have recent pictures of them and fingerprints on file to help find them."
 ::snipping2::
The money raised on Sunday will help pay to keep Isabel's picture visible around the community.
The community has also donated nearly $60,000 for the reward fund. 88-CRIME has put in a $1,000. Susie Slagle Dupnik heads the anonymous tip line. She says, "Somebody knows something. Somebody out there knows what happened, and that person or persons needs to come forward and give these people peace.

88-Crime has received over a 1,000 anonymous tips. Tips can be texted, given online, or made over the phone.

88-Crime is still looking for tips that will lead police to Isabel.

Donations are still being accepted through Wells Fargo: Bring Isa Home account.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2013, 11:30:09 PM
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/archives/2013/04/19/support-the-fight-to-bring-isabel-celis-home-this-sunday
Support the Fight to Bring Isabel Celis Home This Sunday
POSTED BY KATE NEWTON ON FRI, APR 19, 2013 AT 3:30 PM


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2013, 11:32:36 PM
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/22036870/investigator-working-celis-case-has-promising-lead
Investigator working Celis case has 'promising lead'
Posted April 21, 2013, Updated April 22, 2013

TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) -
The search goes on for a missing Tucson girl. Isabel Celis' family and friends are holding on to hope, one year after she disappeared.

They released 365 balloons on the one year mark Isabel Celis was discovered missing.
 ::snipping2::
A special church service was held for Isabel. Isabel's parents read portions of the gospel and at times appeared deep in prayer.

The festivities continued just down the street at Peter Piper's Pizza. Isabel's older brother, Sergio Jr. handed out missing person flyers at the door.

Inside, they had arts and crafts and free fingerprinting. The same fingerprinting service that took Isabel's prints two years ago.

As much as Sunday was about keeping Isabel's faith alive. It's also a sad reminder it's already been one year and fewer tips are coming in.

"We still have to have hope they're doing the best they can," said Rebecca Celis.

Two private investigators are taking on the case. One from LA who Sergio's sister hired. Another from Phoenix.

Retired federal agent, Kelly Snyder has gone through around 30 leads but is working one right now that sounds promising.

"I want to find her extremely badly. But, you know, dealing with the family as much as we have in the last year, every time I'm with them I feel I need to go further and farther," said Kelly Snyder.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 24, 2013, 11:36:07 PM
http://www.kpho.com/story/22029709/one-year-ago-friday-was-last-time-isabel-was-seen-in-public-at-a-baseball-game1
Isabel Celis: Last seen in public at baseball game a year ago
April 20, 2013


TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) -
One of the last places Isabel Celis was seen in public one year ago was at a Little League baseball game.

On the same field where Isabel Celis' brothers played ball a year ago, the last night many people saw Isabel out in public, there are still purple ribbons tied to the fence. It's a reminder to the community she is still missing.
 ::snipping2::

It was after that game Isabel disappeared from her East Tucson home overnight. Police have checked more than a thousand leads but found nothing. Isabel's parents are waiting for that one call.
 ::snipping2::
The case is still open and active. Anyone with information should call 88-crime.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Amys Sister on May 06, 2013, 01:11:07 AM
"I want to find her extremely badly. But, you know, dealing with the family as much as we have in the last year, every time I'm with them I feel I need to go further and farther," said Kelly Snyder."

I bet she does.  The Celis's seem very hinky.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 06, 2013, 08:59:50 AM
"I want to find her extremely badly. But, you know, dealing with the family as much as we have in the last year, every time I'm with them I feel I need to go further and farther," said Kelly Snyder."

I bet she does.  The Celis's seem very hinky.

 ::rhino::  I believe if the one of the Celis's weren't directly involved in her disappearance, they at least have a good idea who may have taken her and why and they just aren't saying.  JMHO 


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 06, 2013, 05:53:44 PM
"I want to find her extremely badly. But, you know, dealing with the family as much as we have in the last year, every time I'm with them I feel I need to go further and farther," said Kelly Snyder."

I bet she does.  The Celis's seem very hinky.

 ::rhino::  I believe if the one of the Celis's weren't directly involved in her disappearance, they at least have a good idea who may have taken her and why and they just aren't saying.  JMHO 

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 06, 2013, 05:57:59 PM
Bus stop ads??  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/22047239/finding-isabel-celis-financial-questions-answered

Celis advertising: where does the money go?
Posted: Apr 22, 2013 7:37 PM CDT Updated: Apr 29, 2013 7:37 PM CDT

 ::snipping3::
Between $25,000 and $30,000 have been raised since Isabel Celis vanished one year ago.

Firends, family and people in the community fundraised; they held car washes and accepted donations for t-shirts and bracelets.

Isabel's mother, Becky, said one-tenth of that money has gone toward a private investigator in the Los Angeles area, hired by a relative.

Another investigator in the Phoenix area is working for free; he's part of a nonprofit who works off of donations.

The rest of that money, the Celis' say, went toward bus stop ads. They had a special rate: two bus stops for $2,700 for six weeks. At first, they had covered 24 bus stops and then scaled back to eight. As of six weeks ago, they have none.

"There's just no way; we don't make enough," Becky Celis said. "I'd love to, but there's no way we could ever afford to keep her face out there like we have been without the support from the community. There's no way."

During the months that Becky and husband Sergio took off work, their co-workers donated vacation time and helped to pay their bills.

The Celis' are expecting to earn a few hundred dollars from the fundraiser yesterday at Peter Piper's Pizza.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on August 27, 2013, 10:10:11 PM
Happy Birthday, Isabel.    :smt113

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/23265062/special-birthday-mass-in-honor-of-isabel-celis

Special birthday mass in honor of Isabel Celis
Posted: Aug 27, 2013 8:54 AM CDT Updated: Aug 27, 2013 8:54 AM CDT

TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) -
Today marks the 8th birthday of Isabel Celis, who has been missing for more than a year. 

She was six years old when she disappeared from her family's home near Broadway and Craycroft.  Isabel's family is holding a special church ceremony to honor her birthday today.
 ::snipping3::
Another mass is planned on September 1, also in Isabel's honor.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on August 27, 2013, 10:13:10 PM
http://www.kpho.com/story/23266975/father-family-member-knows-something-about-missing-isabel-celis

Father: Family member knows something about missing Isabel Celis
Posted: Aug 27, 2013 10:53 AM CDT Updated: Aug 27, 2013 11:00 AM CDT

TUCSON, AZ (CBS5) -
The father of a missing Tucson girl claims at least one person knows something about her disappearance more than a year ago.

Tuesday would be Isabel Celis' 8th birthday. Her father, Sergio Celis, said a family member he would not name has refused to talk to the family's private investigator.

"It's frustrating to run against a wall," Sergio Celis said. "This person has an attorney and they're not going to let them speak a word, protecting somebody that we feel has a lot of information to give. And if it has to be anonymous, so be it. We just want her home. We want our baby home. We want this nightmare over."

Sergio Celis said he doesn't believe the person committed a crime, just that the person has information that could be critical to the case.

Isabel disappeared from her family home 18 months ago.

Police have said they believe she was abducted, but they have not named a suspect nor speculated where she could be.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on August 27, 2013, 10:40:54 PM
http://www.kpho.com/story/23266975/father-family-member-knows-something-about-missing-isabel-celis

Father: Family member knows something about missing Isabel Celis
Posted: Aug 27, 2013 10:53 AM CDT Updated: Aug 27, 2013 11:00 AM CDT

TUCSON, AZ (CBS5) -
The father of a missing Tucson girl claims at least one person knows something about her disappearance more than a year ago.

Tuesday would be Isabel Celis' 8th birthday. Her father, Sergio Celis, said a family member he would not name has refused to talk to the family's private investigator.

"It's frustrating to run against a wall," Sergio Celis said. "This person has an attorney and they're not going to let them speak a word, protecting somebody that we feel has a lot of information to give. And if it has to be anonymous, so be it. We just want her home. We want our baby home. We want this nightmare over."

Sergio Celis said he doesn't believe the person committed a crime, just that the person has information that could be critical to the case.

Isabel disappeared from her family home 18 months ago.

Police have said they believe she was abducted, but they have not named a suspect nor speculated where she could be.
 ::snipping3::


Well this is interesting...what is THIS all about?  WHO is this all about?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 28, 2013, 08:49:14 AM
 :2thinky:


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on August 28, 2013, 11:08:55 PM
Labubske, you might be interested in reading the transcript at the link below...interesting discussion...they think the relative is a cousin.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1308/27/ijvm.01.html

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Does Family Member Know Where Isabel Celis Is?
Aired August 27, 2013 - 19:00:00   ET

 ::snipping3::
GORDON: I don`t think it`s a nefarious move on behalf of that cousin -- being a lawyer myself -- to lawyer up as they say. I mean your words can be misconstrued and I`ve always said even the truth, when it`s not well defended, can cause you to lose a case very badly
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: labubske on August 28, 2013, 11:23:12 PM
Labubske, you might be interested in reading the transcript at the link below...interesting discussion...they think the relative is a cousin.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1308/27/ijvm.01.html

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Does Family Member Know Where Isabel Celis Is?
Aired August 27, 2013 - 19:00:00   ET

 ::snipping3::
GORDON: I don`t think it`s a nefarious move on behalf of that cousin -- being a lawyer myself -- to lawyer up as they say. I mean your words can be misconstrued and I`ve always said even the truth, when it`s not well defended, can cause you to lose a case very badly
 ::snipping3::


Thanks...I will check it out.  I remember back in the beginning of a cousin that was hanging around...had a jeep or something...had lived in FL at some point.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: flamom on September 01, 2013, 08:40:39 AM
just checking in... seems they at least have a lead....
so hard to believe that any one involved in Isabel's disappearance could evade detection for this long....   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on September 13, 2013, 02:56:30 PM
just checking in... seems they at least have a lead....
so hard to believe that any one involved in Isabel's disappearance could evade detection for this long....   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 16, 2014, 11:12:36 PM
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_central_southern_az/tucson/isabel-celis-update-tucson-police-searching-neighborhood-of-missing-girl

Isabel Celis update: Tucson police searching neighborhood of missing girl
Posted: 01/15/2014
Last Updated: 22 hours and 25 minutes ago

TUCSON, AZ - Dozens of police officers knocked on doors in a Tucson neighborhood Wednesday in hopes of finding new information in an investigation of a 6-year-old girl who was abducted more than 18 months ago.

Police spokesman Sgt. Pete Dugan says the door-to-door effort in Isabel Mercedes Celis' neighborhood wasn't prompted by new leads.

He says it instead was intended to seek out information that might not have been revealed when investigators first flooded the area after the child's April 2012 disappearance.
 ::snipping3::
Police have declined to say whether they have a suspect in the case or whether the child is believed to still be alive.

Dugan said officers plan on being in the neighborhood through Saturday. Police said they will work from noon to 10 p.m. until they've spoken to everybody.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 16, 2014, 11:23:03 PM
Video at the link

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/24463241/tpd

Tucson Police begin second day of Isabel Celis patrols
Posted: Jan 15, 2014 3:21 PM CST
Updated: Jan 16, 2014 12:00 PM CST

TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) -
Tucson Police are beginning the second day of a stepped-up presence in a neighborhood where a Tucson girl went missing nearly two years ago.

Isabel Celis was 6 years old when she disappeared from her home near Broadway and Craycroft in April of 2012.

Tucson Police are putting extra officers in the neighborhood in their ongoing effort to investigate her disappearance.

Authorities are trying a new tactic to get leads; TPD said about 50 commissioned personnel will run special patrols in several blocks surrounding her home on the east side over the next few days.

Tucson News Now spoke with Isabel's parents, Sergio and Becky, on Wednesday: "Baby we're still looking for you, baby. Don't give up and don't give up here. We're still out here, looking. Don't give up. We haven't given up so we hope that she never does, either," Becky Celis said about her daughter, Isabel.

"We have a lot of questions that aren't answered, a lot of things that we wish we could just close the book on. But until then, there's so many things that are left so wide open. You know, they did so much digging right here right here, in our house, right here between me and Becky, into our family, you know, we have already been stripped away from our little daughter and we were violated all over again. And we're hoping that this time around maybe someone else can get the attention. And maybe that, you know, all that strength, and all that force, can go somewhere else and we can really get down to a lot of answers," Sergio Celis said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 16, 2014, 11:31:51 PM
http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/police-beat/police-swarm-tucson-neighborhood-for-new-leads-in-girl-s/article_dc9a4a49-c195-5920-8faf-45b86a32fa8b.html

Tucson police add new detectives to missing girl case
20 hours ago 

About 50 officers and detectives are recanvassing the midtown neighborhood where a young Tucson girl went missing almost two years ago, trying to stir up new information in the case.

The door-to-door interviews regarding the 2012 disappearance of then 6-year-old Isabel Celis began Wednesday and will go through Saturday between noon to 10 p.m. daily. A command post has been set up in the neighborhood.

In addition to patrol officers, eight detectives are working the effort in hopes that residents will recall new information, or tell investigators something they did not report earlier, said Sgt. Pete Dugan, a Tucson Police Department spokesman.

Six of the detectives are new to the case, which will bring fresh eyes and new perspectives, said Lt. Elise Souter of the Police Department’s youth, family and sex crimes section.

The canvassing will focus on about 350 to 400 homes, including apartments, that are within the boundaries of East Broadway to East 14th Street and South Craycroft Road to South Chantilly Drive.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Sister on January 17, 2014, 09:03:57 AM
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_isabel_celis_thg_120425_wg.jpg)

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 17, 2014, 08:52:30 PM
http://www.kvoa.com/news/day-2-tpd-hopes-to-stir-new-leads-in-celis-investigation/

Jan 16, 2014 7:55 PM
Day 2: TPD hopes to stir new leads in Celis investigation

 ::snipping3::
Detectives are asking neighbors about a shoeprint, according to neighbors.

"A picture of a footprint from somewhere that they picked up near the property," Pike told News 4 Tucson.

According to law enforcement, the shoeprint does not necessarily point to a suspect -- rather, a person who might have valuable information in the investigation.

TPD is canvassing the neighborhood, including up to 400 homes and a nearby apartment complex. The hope is that it will re-energize the investigation.

"It's not that they have no leads anymore," said Sgt. Pete Dugan, of the Tucson Police Department.

"When the investigation first started we were getting hundreds of leads and now they've slowly begun to dwindle. So if we can get back out there and let the public that we are still looking for this stuff ... we are still wanting any kind of information no matter how small it might be ...it's a big help to us."

As for the potential suspect, TPD is not elaborating. However News 4 Tucson has confirmed that family members have not been ruled out.

A separate investigation was conducted by private firm. Private Investigator Kelly Snyder told News 4 Tucson that he identified at least two prime suspects in Isabel's disappearance. He said his prime suspects were close to the Celis family but would not elaborate specifically.

Snyder said that he handed over his finding to TPD roughly four months ago.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 17, 2014, 09:02:58 PM
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/24484808/celis-patrols-wrapping-up-ahead-of-schedule

Celis patrols wrapping up ahead of schedule
Posted: Jan 17, 2014 4:07 PM CST
Updated: Jan 17, 2014 7:47 PM CST

TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) -
Tucson Police Department wrapped up its special patrols near Broadway and Craycroft two days earlier than planned.

The investigative deployment was launched Wednesday afternoon in hopes of unearthing new evidence in the disappearance of Isabel Celis.  It was originally schedule to continue through Saturday night.
 ::snipping3::
Over the last 48 hours, 40 uniformed officers and eight detectives went door to door, asking people if they've seen anything unusual over the last 19 months.

For instance, anybody who suddenly moved out without explanation; any landscapers who seemed to be hanging around; or anybody else here who just didn't seem quite right.

Again, TPD says they've received dozens of tips as a result of the Celis detail.

That, in itself, is a small victory.

"So what's happening now is the investigators are looking at all those phone calls that came in, the tips they received and they're trying to kind of weed through right now, figure out which of these tips are new tips, new leads...and which of them are things that we already had," says TPD Sgt. Pete Dugan.

"Those new leads will be assigned to detectives for follow up and that's the process that they're in right now."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: can on January 18, 2014, 06:17:09 AM
Graceland, thank you for this hopeful news.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::justice2nj2:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 18, 2014, 04:40:28 PM
Graceland, thank you for this hopeful news.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::justice2nj2:: ::MonkeyAngel::

You're welcome, can!  There still is hope for justice for Isabel!  ::justice2nj2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 18, 2014, 04:48:16 PM
Video at the link

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/24480111/day-three-of-tpd-sweep-for-isabel-celis

Day three of TPD sweep for Isabel Celis
Posted: Jan 17, 2014 7:22 AM CST
Updated: Jan 17, 2014 7:22 AM CST

TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) -
Friday is the third day of the police sweep, with special patrols taking place in the neighborhood where Isabel Celis disappeared nearly two years ago.

Dozens of police officers are expected back on the streets today, going door to door and interviewing neighbors and hoping to uncover any new information.

According to Tucson Police the effort so far has netted several new leads and is going faster than police anticipated.  TPD initially stated they would patrol through the weekend, but they recently stated they would be finished by Saturday night.
 ::snipping3::
So far Sergio and his wife Becky have not been interviewed by detectives.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: Puzzler on January 21, 2014, 01:30:53 PM
A short time ago, I heard about this on Fox.

They were saying that 350 homes were being contacted by 50 officers.

I'm sure glad to see some movement on this case.

I can't believe it's been almost 2 years.

I wonder "why" this big of search...did they get a tip from someone?


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 27, 2014, 08:46:19 PM
It seems there are no new leads/developments reported after the January investigation.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/parents-of-isabel-celis-keep-hope-alive-years-after-she/article_f459a6ae-cd87-5981-bc13-d8bbebfa1849.html (http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/parents-of-isabel-celis-keep-hope-alive-years-after-she/article_f459a6ae-cd87-5981-bc13-d8bbebfa1849.html)

Parents of Isabel Celis keep hope alive 2 years after she vanished
April 18, 2014 12:00 am 

It’s been nearly two years since Becky and Sergio Celis last saw their only daughter, then 6-year-old Isabel, who vanished from their midtown home.

As the anniversary of her disappearance looms, her parents said this week the family remains hopeful she’ll come home and hopes new efforts by Tucson police will help shed light on her disappearance.

In January, eight new detectives were assigned to review the case and have conducted new interviews and reinterviewed people, according to a statement from the Tucson Police Department.

“It’s a new team and we’re hoping that maybe asking different questions or just having a little bit of time pass someone will remember something,” Becky Celis said
 ::snipping3::
What’s new

This year, police recanvassed Isabel’s neighborhood and went to 305 homes. Forty-two interviews were conducted in Tucson, other cities in Arizona and in California, Texas and Washington.

Police investigated 30 tips made through 88-CRIME, which included dog searches, and contacting other law enforcement agencies in Arizona, Georgia, Missouri, New Jersey, North Carolina Pennsylvania and Mexico. A total of 2,192 leads have been investigated this year.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 09, 2015, 08:59:33 AM
Hmm.  I haven't heard much about dowsing in regard to finding missing persons. 


http://www.kvoa.com/story/28132093/crime-trackers-private-investigator-believes-he-knows-who-the-suspects-are-in-the-celis-kidnapping
Crime Trackers: Private Investigator believes he knows who the suspects are in the Celis kidnapping
Posted February 17, 2015, Updated February 23, 2015

 ::snipping3::
New detectives, along with a new sergeant, were assigned to the case a year ago. They've re-canvassed the neighborhood, but still nothing on the little girl's whereabouts.

Police say as new leads come in, they follow up on them.

The private investigator the family contacted said, “Whoever did this knows the family 100 percent guaranteed, and my suspect has a key to the house.”

Retired federal agent Jerry "Kelly" Snyder is the founder of "Find Me," an organization he started in 2002 to look for missing children. His group has been searching for Isabel Celis since the 6-year-old was kidnapped in April 2012. He has two suspects who we can't name because they've not been charged with a crime.

“I provided the Tucson Police Department with two individuals names who I truly believe were involved in her disappearance," said Snyder.  "Either physically they took her, or they had something to do with her disappearance.”

In January we interviewed a detective who has been on the case since the beginning. He said they don't deal directly with private investigators however, Greg Wright said, “We will take any information that anybody has on this case and we will review it and we will follow up on whatever that information is.”

On the night Isabel disappeared from her house, it's reported her bedroom window was open and the screen set aside.

Snyder found out the two possible suspects even helped in the search for Isa.

“One of them retained an attorney immediately, which is somewhat of a red flag,” Snyder said.

Other red flags?

“One of them moved out of Tucson almost immediately,” Snyder said.

He added his vehicle “was sent out of town two, or three days before he left town. Huge red flag again.”

The other individual Snyder referred to still lives in Tucson. Snyder spoke to him on three separate occasions.

News 4 Tucson went to his workplace and to three different apartments where he reportedly lived and we also called him. The phone number was no longer in use and we were unable to locate him.

Dan Baldwin helped Snyder start "Find Me." He's written a book about it and he uses Pendulum Dowsing, a way to find answers normally not available to our senses.

Three years ago he did map dousing on the Celis case.

“My last report was that she was physically alive in Tucson," said Baldwin.  "That's been years ago. At the time, I had reports that she was being moved around from location to location.”

Baldwin said he gave exact addresses and GPS coordinates. He did this all from his workspace in Mesa.

“The problem is, these people, when they are on the move, by the time you file a report and the police get there, they may have already moved on,” said Baldwin. 

Tucson Police say they checked one of the locations and found nothing. Yet, Baldwin is convinced Pendulum Dowsing works.

“It's something that works. I know it works and I want to continue doing it. The disbelievers can stand on the sidelines and watch while we find missing kids."

Baldwin said he will gladly do another Dowsing if he's asked. In the meantime, Tucson Police said as of January they had no suspects.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2015, 01:26:14 PM
Interesting...

Thanks MuffyBee!   ::buzzbee3::

Justice for Isabel!   ::justice2nj2::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: cartfly on March 31, 2017, 09:24:11 PM
http://wfin.com/investigators-locate-remains-of-isabel-celis-6-year-old-girl-who-went-missing-in-2012/  (http://wfin.com/investigators-locate-remains-of-isabel-celis-6-year-old-girl-who-went-missing-in-2012/)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: cartfly on March 31, 2017, 09:28:18 PM
 ::snipping3::
ABC News(TUCSON, Ariz.) — The remains of Isabel Celis, the 6-year-old who went missing from her Arizona home in 2012, have been found, the Tucson Police Department announced Friday.

Investigators found the human remains in a rural area in Pima County, said Tucson Chief of Police Chris Magnus. A portion of those remains were then sent to an out-of-state laboratory for DNA analysis, which confirmed they were the remains of the little girl, Magnus said.
 ::snipping3::
 http://wfin.com/investigators-locate-remains-of-isabel-celis-6-year-old-girl-who-went-missing-in-2012/ (http://wfin.com/investigators-locate-remains-of-isabel-celis-6-year-old-girl-who-went-missing-in-2012/)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: cw618 on March 31, 2017, 10:48:00 PM
 ::MonkeyTears::

Tucson police say Isabel Celis' remains found
Associated Press Published 3:01 p.m. MT March 31, 2017 | Updated 4 hours ago

video @ link

Tucson police said Friday that the remains of 6-year-old Isabel Celis, who was reported missing in 2012, were found earlier this month.

Tucson Police Chief Chris Magnus said Friday that Isabel's remains have been found, though he would not offer details about where investigators located the remains or what prompted detectives to search in that area.

Magnus said the remains were found in "rural Pima County" and were sent to Bode Cellmark Forensics in Virginia where DNA evidence was confirmed.
 
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2017/03/31/missing-tucson-girl-isabel-celis/99888614/




Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: grace-land on March 31, 2017, 11:56:14 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyTears::

At the link:  news conference video, timeline, videos and police documents
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/35044194/major-development-in-isabel-celis-case

Remains of Isabel Celis found; family releases statement
Published:Friday, March 31st 2017, 4:02 pm CDT
Updated:Friday, March 31st 2017, 9:29 pm CDT

 ::snipping3::
The case that has haunted law enforcement and Tucson residents alike took a turn earlier this month when remains were found in rural Pima County.

On Friday, March 31, the Tucson Police Department confirmed DNA analysis of the remains proved they belong to Isabel.
 ::snipping3::
Magnus did not say how long the remains were in that location but he did say they were not found by accident.

"It was not a happenstance," he said. "There has been on going process of many searches, this was not a happenstance. I cannot get into any greater detail than that."
 ::snipping3::
The Celis family released the following statement through the Tucson Medical Center.

"We want to thank the community for the support they have continued to show for Isa over the years and for refusing to give up hope," the family said. "Now is our time to mourn. We ask for our privacy during this time so that we can do that."

While Magnus did not release the exact location of the discovery, he did say the area was thoroughly processed for further evidence.

Magnus said he could not release information on any possible suspects but said he could not answer when asked if anyone was in custody.
 ::snipping3::
Tucson News Now has learned the Celis family has placed their home, located at 5602 East 12th St., on the market.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 01, 2017, 04:17:57 AM
Wow, thankful she was found, praying for justice.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyTears::

Rest in peace, Isabel.   ::MonkeyAngel::

https://www.facebook.com/FindIsabel/photos/a.380122382032973.90915.380121855366359/1428176747227526/?type=3&theater

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17629612_1428176747227526_3546023445745180382_n.jpg?oh=5f9b2e2bc5038ac1a0ce11e5d2fc9f91&oe=5996C332)


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - 4/1/2017 (body found)
Post by: klaasend on April 01, 2017, 01:14:07 PM
So sad, but I'm glad they at least found her body and her family can have some kind of closure.  I'll leave the thread here until hopefully she gets justice.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: texasmom on April 01, 2017, 06:42:06 PM
https://www.facebook.com/FindIsabel/photos/a.380127312032480.90917.380121855366359/1428186390559895/?type=3&theater

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17634297_1428186390559895_2135419034529990017_n.jpg?oh=dc588ca5fcf93f6dcd559144d434f8a1&oe=599B1F6F)

Justice for Isabel!

 ::justice2nj2::



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 01, 2017, 06:48:09 PM
Thanks for the update all.

A CONFESSION?

Could it be that someone grew a conscience, confessed and led authorities to Isabel's remains? The past five years of not knowing must have been a h--- on Earth for Isabel's family. Hopefully a resolution will be forthcoming ... a resolution that implies justice for Isabel and a measure of closure for her family.

+++++

Remains of Isabel Celis found; family releases statement
Friday, March 31st 2017


<snipped>

Magnus did not say how long the remains were in that location but he did say they were not found by accident.

"It was not a happenstance," he said. "There has been on going process of many searches, this was not a happenstance. I cannot get into any greater detail than that." .....

Magnus said he could not release information on any possible suspects but said he could not answer when asked if anyone was in custody.

<snipped>

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/35044194/major-development-in-isabel-celis-case


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: cartfly on April 02, 2017, 12:45:20 PM
JMO
and stating the obvious....
but the demeanor of her father Sergio, never set well with me.
As well as the mom's cousin (and spokesperson in the first few days) of Justin Mastromarino
who fled the state within days to Florida where he had his vehicle shipped to.
He refused to answer any questions and directed questions to his lawyer.
How do you make a living Justin?

It seemed the family was reluctant to call this cousin out publicly and i'm not sure why.

I'm not implying that I think Sergio or Justin hurt the child. But i do feel they know why she was taken and by whom.

I don't mean to sound insensitive to the family. But I don't think anyone protected this baby adequately.


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: grace-land on April 02, 2017, 06:20:49 PM
Photos at the links below...

https://twitter.com/ScottColemanTNN
Scott Coleman‏ @ScottColemanTNN · Mar 31 

MORE: House where Isabel Celis was taken from is now listed for sale. Put on the market on 2/22/17. Banner of Isabel was taken down.

https://twitter.com/SchreiberEvan
Evan Schreiber‏ @SchreiberEvan · Apr 1 

MORNING AFTER: Balloons, flowers remain at #IsabelCelis home. Her remains ID'd by police nearly 5yrs after disappearance. @TucsonNewsNow



Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: grace-land on April 02, 2017, 06:27:57 PM
Photos at the link

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/35049635/celis-familys-church-shares-sadness-after-isabels-remains-found

Celis family's church shares sadness after Isabel's remains found
Published:Saturday, April 1st 2017, 10:15 pm CDT
Updated:Saturday, April 1st 2017, 10:15 pm CDT

TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) - The purple balloons used to be filled with hope. They were once a symbol of a wishful, safe return for Isabel Celis, then 6 years old. Those purple balloons are now resting with sadness, and flowers from visitors, on the driveway of Celis' former home.

Friday's breaking details of her remains being identified spread around the corner to the family's church. People there at St. Joseph Catholic Parish and School on South Craycroft Road in Tucson, said Isabel's parents, Sergio and Rebecca, are still members.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: seahorse on April 04, 2017, 10:55:42 AM
Hello Monkeys,

Did anyone collect the reward?  If not, why not?  How can we find out if someone collected the award?  T.Y.  ::MonkeyEek::

Reward tops $60,000 in Isabel Celis case
Thursday, April 26th 2012, 10:34 pm EDT
By Tucson News Now Staff
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/17800234/reward-tops-60000-in-isabel-celis-case


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: Tamikosmom on April 04, 2017, 11:13:44 AM
Hello Monkeys,

Did anyone collect the reward?  If not, why not?  How can we find out if someone collected the award?  T.Y.  ::MonkeyEek::

Reward tops $60,000 in Isabel Celis case
Thursday, April 26th 2012, 10:34 pm EDT
By Tucson News Now Staff
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/17800234/reward-tops-60000-in-isabel-celis-case

Hi Seahorse

I could be wrong but somehow it makes sense that a reward would be paid to an informant only if he/she was not deemed a suspect/ participant in the  disappearance/ murder of Isabel? Janet


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: seahorse on April 05, 2017, 07:03:51 AM
Hello Monkeys,

Did anyone collect the reward?  If not, why not?  How can we find out if someone collected the award?  T.Y.  ::MonkeyEek::

Reward tops $60,000 in Isabel Celis case
Thursday, April 26th 2012, 10:34 pm EDT
By Tucson News Now Staff
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/17800234/reward-tops-60000-in-isabel-celis-case

Hi Seahorse

I could be wrong but somehow it makes sense that a reward would be paid to an informant only if he/she was not deemed a suspect/ participant in the  disappearance/ murder of Isabel? Janet

Hi Janet,  ::HelloKitty::

I agree with you culprits cannot collect a reward.  How can the public find out if, if, if, the award money (60,000) was given for the information? It must be public information?
 
Information is still being accepted in the case.  No mention of any reward for information, maybe because opportunists would create a story for money.   

It could have been an (speculating) ex-girlfriend who knew, but if a person confessed would they be under arrest?  To remember a so called “remote” location in the desert, you would think it was daytime when the culprit (or culprits) buried the child’s remains. IMO.

“No suspect in her death has been arrested and Magnus said officers are still accepting information.”

“This is a very important step in the case, so that’s one of the reasons why we’re still asking the public if they have any leads. We believe there may still be folks out there who perhaps know something or feel now that they’re willing to come forward with information.”

Anyone with more information on Celis’ death is asked to call 88-CRIME or the Tucson Police Department.

https://ktar.com/story/1513948/body-tucson-girl-missing-6-years-found-arizona-county/

Seahorse


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: grace-land on May 01, 2017, 09:41:58 PM
Rest in Peace, Isabel.   ::MonkeyAngel::

http://tucson.com/news/local/hundreds-gather-at-tucson-cathedral-to-remember-isabel-celis/article_a0e29f62-2d2d-11e7-ae00-47e3fb7f4104.html

Hundreds gather at Tucson cathedral to remember Isabel Celis
Caitlin Schmidt Arizona Daily Star
Apr 29, 2017 Updated Apr 29, 2017

One couldn't help but notice the purple shirts and dresses scattered among the crowd of nearly 500 seated in pews at Isabel Celis' funeral mass on Saturday morning.

Purple was Isabel's favorite color.

At the front of St. Augustine Cathedral, an easel displayed two pictures of Isabel, first as a baby and the second the familiar photo of her smiling face that was widely circulated after the 6-year-old girl went missing in 2012.

Ushers handed attendees a prayer card that listed the date of her death as March 3, 2017, a few weeks before Tucson police announced that her remains had been found in a rural area of Pima County.

A Mariachi band played during the processional and throughout the service, between speakers and Scripture readings by Isabel's older brothers, Sergio and Julian.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
Post by: grace-land on June 09, 2017, 08:20:15 PM
http://www.kvoa.com/story/35521672/new-reports-in-isabel-celis-investigation

New reports in Isabel Celis investigation
Posted: May 25, 2017 7:19 PM CDT
Updated: Jun 08, 2017 7:23 PM CDT

TUCSON - News 4 Tucson has obtained new investigative reports regarding the death of Isabel Celis.

The incident date listed in the Tucson Police Department documents is Friday, March 3, 2017.  That is a few weeks before Chief Chris Magnus announced the discovery of Celis’ remains. That date also matches the date of death listed in fliers passed out at Celis’ memorial.

The papers also state an unidentified man was questioned in the investigation, and he denied any involvement.
 ::snipping3::