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Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee

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I made it legally.   8)

I guess you learned that at the knee of the best in the business.

Legal?

Gotta go.  SM fell down and broke her crown and now she's in the hospital.  Gotta call the POOP. TTYL

Is everything okay there?

Had a post all made and got locked out.

Yeah, what is up with Sunfreak? Is that for real?

I don't know.  I find it worriesome.  I don't understand.

 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Sorry about that Sam.

Maybe in the future if you know it's a long post copy what you wrote this way if you hit submit and the tread is locked you can go to the new thread and just hit paste and it will copy over.  It remembers the last thing you copied.

What does POOP stand for. No not S*** I think it is to abbreviate something.

I don't know.  I find the Sun's message cryptic and a little scarey.

She said TTYL which means talk to you later.

I know we all use POI for person of interest.


San my post was short and it was my own fault for not doing copy on it before posting but I did not think we had 20 post yet on page 49.

I got the TTYL part alright.  But who is SM (scared monkey?)  fell and broke crown :shock:   hospital :shock:   And POOP?

i think JORAN is short for

JORAN

OUTRAGEOUS

RAPES

AND

NARCS

It sounds like someone she knows had an accident, is in the hospital, and she's calling to check on the person.

San we know about talk to you later. It is gotta call the POOP. We are wondering about.

You are probably right.  I love your cowdogs.  When growing up, we had "Bridget" and "Gidget" the family Boston Terriers.

Hi Monkey Friends!

I think SM=Sea Monkey   Her daughter

there is one too many OOOOO

got to call the POP

POP as in father



maybe ????

Thank you Marlee.  Oh no.  If her daughter is hurt I am so sorry.

Hi Marlee. I think Sea Monkey is Art Colley's daughter.

Oh my! This is getting too confusing!  :lol:

BT, do you think she is saying one of our Monkeys?

I don't know.  But I don't think I'm gonna google "POOP" though.

Thanks, Muffy. Aren't BTs the greatest little dogs?  :D

me either
 8)

Not a clue, Sam. The SM might even have been a typo, if she's anything like the rest of us.  :lol:

A very good choice Robots. Makes sense.

Yes Sea Monkey is Art Colleys daughter.

Yes they are.  "Bridget" used to get cold and would sit on the heat registers on the floor to get warm...  I have two yorkies "Muffy" and "Bitsy" now.  They  were rescued.  Such a mess they didn't know Muffy was a yorkie.  Thought she was a Benji type dog.

Hi monkeys...what's shakin?

its my robotic mind at work

(that is,, im in correct)

Is Angie rubbing off on everybody???  :wink:  :)

A...Long long time ago..    here...  when that happened you could hit the back  arrow  (reverse of this one      :arrow: ) then Cntl-A to select everything you were trying to post; Cntl-C to coyp :smt117 it to to the clip-board...
But now  it says the page cannot be refreshed or somthin like that..
Maybe an option we need to ask Dugga about for the  the New  diggs ????

What's not shakin is your bootie :D  :D   But your current avi is stunningly beautiful

SAM  :lol:

HI Mishy
Well you are not shaking any more   :(    :lol:  :lol:

Thanks MuffyBee...how have you been?

I know, I can hardly get used to it...

Good Even'n monkeys!


Hi Marlee!

Hey when are you and Marlee going to give us a Monkey Meet-Up recap in the Lounge..   :?  Or did I just not find it there  :oops:  :?

Is it me and my rolling rock?:

Hi WINO!! Oh, I mean Dihannah

I am going to check out for awhile.BBL.

Well, actually my 'puter was down for several days with a virus.  Spent alot of time rebuilding.  I then started to write up something in Word to copy, but haven't finished it yet.  But I WILL give updates!

Marlee is a BAD influence on ME!  :wink:  :D

I'm doin' great Mishy.  But I just got call.  Bro's Border Collie got bit in face by copperhead.  Her head is all swollen.  It happened while he was at work.  He called Vet and vet says dog will live, since it's lived this long.  Needs no action.  Last year, bro's labrador bitten by copperhead.  Same thing.  Head swelled, but she lived.

 :shock:    :shock:
It sounds like we need to hear BOTH SIDES of this story  
 :lol:

Wow Muffy, those poor pups!! I bet that hurt like the dickens...poor baby  :cry:

OK... what does this mean... ???
SM... Silly Mom, Silly Me  ??
POOP ... Pop and in father.. People On ...
Does SunFreak have pet's ... ???

Just a little confused and concern

Hi Monkeys!!

NO, Seamonkey is MY daughter, lol!!!

I don't understand that message either. Hope all is well.

LOL,  I believe she might mean that in 2 different ways!  Voice and the Wine SHE made me drink  HA HA!

Someone cleared that up AC.....sorry.....sometimes it gets confusing for me on who belongs to who

 Hi Art..:)

I am lost too..

Well, as you can all tell, I am 6 cents short and 2 days late, as usual! :lol:

Hi ANgie! :lol:
I live being "lost" most of the time!!! :lol:

Doesn't help when everybody changed clothes recently!   :)

Ain't THAT the truth!
BUT, some of these new avatars are really adorable!!!

Does SunFreak2  have and pets ???
this is stange ... even given baybe a typo or two  :?

Hi ArtColley,

How is SeaMonkey anyway? And how are you???

San
I don't remember if I congratulated you on being our new "moderater"!
If I did...good!
If not, then CONGRATULATIONS!!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I believe she does OldFart. Hopefully she'll come back and let us know if all is well. I would email her, but don't have her addy  :cry:

Hi MIshy!
Seamonkey has gone away for a few days with Hubby for a much needed "respite" from kids, dogs, etc! AND just a nice rest!

I'm doing well, thanks! :lol:

How are you doing?

Yeah, I'm a little concerned about SunFreak's message. Hope all is well with her.

I'm doing well...I hope she's having a lovely time...we all need that every once in awhile...how are your headaches, etc?

Do you think she meant her step-mother had a fall and is in the hospital? I don't know if she has a step-mother, but it would make sense in the context. Her post doesn't sound as if she were dealing with a sudden emergency.

Everyone looks so different. You all had Monkey make overs. I need a real one, cause it's Halloween time in my mirror again. I'll find an avatar on the weekend for myself that will reflect my own true beauty inside and out.   :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:
Kinda a manic day, Friday the thirteenth  to look fwd to.

Sorry for the more or less double post
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SM maybe Sweet Mother?

:smt006 Artcolley
Where is SeaMonkey?  I do hope things are Ok with her...
Did you miss all the new AVI's when Klaasend was in vegas and San became SuperSan  :?

 :lol:  :lol:

I don't even remember exactly what she posted now... :shock:

I quoted her on this page... :lol:

Do they live in your area?  :shock:  :shock:

I am glad all is well with you!

I still get the headaches, but not as severe. THis recovery is a long one. Can take years, so I am just going with it and taking a day at a time! :lol:

 Join my club then  :wink:  :wink:
Hope you are feeling well and Seamonkey is coming along well too!
 Hugs and love to the both of you 2.

Hi, BT!  Could be, I don't know. I didn't understand her message at all! :shock:

 :oops: :roll:

BT is right...it didn't sound like her post had a note of urgency to it...

Well I hope they keep getting better and better!!

Well, that could be, AZSunny!  Now I am reallly curious as to what happened!

The Dompig evolution:  
A ‘yes man lackey’ in the white Dutch controlled ALE. Happy making a living by toeing the line.  One Happy Island, one Happy Dompig.

Then the case of the century, basically Dompig is on the sidelines observing and taking notes forming his own opinion…….then all of a sudden, once all the evidence is covered-up and destroyed, Dompig is put out as the sacrificial lamb to “solve the case”.  The Dumb-One took it seriously early on, making comments like “these boys are guilty as Hell”.  

But after time he saw he was setup as the stooge.  Trying to save face he concocted a new story – Natalee was a drug addict that went to Aruba and OD’d on her few short days there.  Eventually he retired from the ALE, probably out of frustration, maybe out of embarrassment.  
Whatever the case, he’s a ball-less subservient whose name will forever be linked to the rape and death of Natalee.
He could have taken the high road, instead he took the low one - still toeing the line. It's all he knows.

They live about an hour away.  When I was visiting last month, saw a prairie hawk flying above with a snake in it's beak/talons taking it up into tree.  Ewww.  And when bro and young son were out looking at the horses, bro killed coral snake.  He doesn't go outside without a weapon...Ewww.  They just built house in heavy forested area.  I have lots of trees, rocky terrain and a creek behind my house.  Have killed small copperheads, seen the usual scorps, tarantulas etc.  I never go out in yard without a hoe or walking stick...

OOO Hubby home..gonna go fix him a snack!

Be back in a bit! :lol:

Ok, going dark.  G'nite ladies and gents.  See yall tmorrow.

We have the same visitors, and I had a feeling your brother was around your area.  We're in Georgetown, which I think is about an hour from you.....have y'all been introduced to the 8" rock centipedes?  Late at night, I just walk around searching the house with an old meat mallet.  :?

MuffYBee
They do make a single shot  410 gauge pistol (Snake Killer)  that you might want to  get  for your Bro.  come X-Mas time  so that you have more than a stick handy...when you are there
JMO of course

Ok, before I go. I don't like flirting with topic police but here's something I came across that is just priceless - especially to us older folk:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFrCUrEbY

Good evening!

I just caught up with reading.  It's been a crazy week!  

In the hospital, POOP could be an abbreviation for “Post Op” (old terminology = Recovery Room).  

Hope patient and SunFreak are OK!

Oh, you mean the 8" long centipede that was walking down my fireplace in the living room?  Whacked and whacked on that thing, cut it in half, both halves chased me.  Threw it outside on deck in burning sun, sprayed poison.  I don't like those things.

Could Koen have been the the fifth suspect from Simeon?

"The fifth suspect is the boyfriend from earlier in the week with an alibi so tight, so tight"

Thanks Karo it makes sense.

GRETA BLURB>>>>NEWS OUT OF ARUBA coming up at 10 eastern
Someone at BFN said they heard her say family won't be happy!! TUNE IN!

Oh, yeah ~ welcome to Texas. :lol:  :lol:   :shock:  :shock:

Thanks Nut.

Is that one of those non-fuzzy black ones? If so, they are here too. I woke up one night to find one in the bed with me. It stung me on the leg and I had to go to the hospital.  :shock:

Thanks for the heads up!

IndyDan
I love it (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/rothf.gif)

Thanks. I'll set the TIVO

You are all welcome...where is Klaasssssss!!  :shock:

Well, I was putting laundry away and heard a blurp from Greta that there was bad news from Aruba. I knew you guys would know, so got here as quickly as I could.............

I don't put my bed against the wall, no dust ruffle and tuck my blankets.  Eww.  The red wasp infestation was the worst thing.  No one would come and work on roof, paint trim trees or anything till I got them under control.  They took over the place.  Attacked the cable repairman.  Big, red wasps.  Nests everywhere.  Racoons had pulled up the shingles in one corner, so wasps were in there too.  Dang.  They flew at my car when I drove in.  Took me all last year to get them down to reasonable amt.

This doesn't sound good at all.

Hey..Do you guys think this is dennis jacobs in the bottom picture??

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She said the Holloway family would not be happy about it.  :cry:

Doesn't sound good....apparently news on Greta at 10, hearing "the family won't like it". Could be the release of the suspects from suspect status?.....going to watch. BBL

No I don't think they are the same person.

 :shock: Uh OH.  Thanks for heads up, just caught this in time.

doesn't sound good  :cry:

k..Thanks..Maybee his brother or somethin as they look similar..lol

So whattya yall think??Greta gonna report that they are no longer suspects??But the case will remain open??

They will leave it open this way the family doesn't get access to their files.

Wonder if it has something to do with TES.  There supposed to be going over.  Maybe they aren't now?

nope

Yes..I dont think they will ever get those files!! I have a feeling tonights news will not be good news.. :?

I sure hope not, Boom-Boom.

If the Dutch haven't "officially" concluded their investigation, it seems an odd time to release them....................

 :lol:

I'm already angry, and I don't even know what it is!  :evil:

Wonder if this bombshell Greta's gonna drop is being done coincidentally or has something to do with Tim Miller searching the waters?

Why does Greta have this information...whatever it is....?  Seems we would have heard from Aruba news outlets before Greta.

It could be about Julias BS story we all heard last week also..

GOOD question!!!
I was sure that the cage would know what had happened when I heard the teaser!

I was reading at BFN and read Pearlof USA post it.Hurried over here to post but sure enough someone beat me to it. :lol:

If it is about TES, wouldn't we hear from Red.....though I do think Aruba may interfere with Tim.... :(

Ran across this today Indy. Guess who handpicked Dompig the Fired  Police Chief as spokesman for Aruba?

DIARIO ARUBA- 12/13/2005

According to Zaandam, 2 months ago Dompig was approached by AHATA’s CEO, who is a member of the Communications Task Force, Jorge Pesquera, to become spokesperson of the task force.
.

Very true Mere.

I have to try getting a TV hooked up in the room  :evil:
O/T
but I figured IndyDan  might see this

thank you for the " music ...especially to us older folks" link
It reminded me that the former Mrs. OldFart's B-day is tommrow  :roll:
so I sent her this


Thanks Dan...

I have unexpected company right now.  Can't watch Greta.  Please someone post what she says. TIA

I agree.  I contend that the Natalee Holloway case will remain open but unactive.  If the case is closed ... under Aruban law ... the case files have to be released to Natalee's family.  The hope of Aruba is that in time the name of "Natalee Holloway" will become a distance memory.

Janet


Jug Twitty
On the Record /w Greta

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: I've tried every tactic. I think I've made every policeman, every person working on the case here, you know, mad. But you know, what I have to do as a stepfather to try to get Natalee back.  Well, the way the system works down here, when the case is closed, we will have all that information, and we can release it to the world.


Art Wood
Dana Petzer Show

The family of Natalee needs to put pressure on the US attorney in Birmingham to push the FBI to conduct an investigation after ALE close the case. We have a treaty that allows the FBI to pursue a violation of civil rights of an American citizen there.


Art Wood
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'

ART WOOD, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Absolutely. Absolutely. There's a lot that Americans can do through the State Department. I want to remind everybody that Natalee Holloway was a U.S. citizen. Once the Aruban authorities are done investigating this case, the FBI can still conduct an investigation, and they could extradite these suspects to the United States. Let me point out that there's a ton of circumstantial evidence in this case to convict these kids.

Looks like Greta is going to wait until end of show to keep everybody tuned in  :evil:

have Greta on.. and I am sick to my gut to hear what this news is gonna be.   :evil:  I am sure it will be on the last 30 freakin  seconds of the show too.

I think she will announce Amigoes BS story or they are releasing them as suspects..IMO

I am here, waiitng.
Maybe we should all say a prayer for the family that isn't going to like this.

Sea Monkey is Art Colley's daughter... but I am behind so if ya'll already said that sorry

Not sure I can take any bad news today...  am in lurkdom.  If you hear a scream after she announces the bad news - it's me.

Greta said news that must be rocking Aruba law enforcement.  Is Gerald Dompig lying.

Greta: Is Gerald Dompig now lying?

more to come..

Hiya Monkeys

Whatever Greta has it has to do with Dompig

 Oh DI,. we must be sharing that ONE brain cell us monkeys have according to RU  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 WTF? Now I heard on Greta  sumping about DOMPING lying??

You gotta be kidding me - WTF is Greta doing?  She is covering that BS story as NEWS!!???!!!  Fox has stooped to an all time low.

Last teaser asked "is Dompig lying?"

Does a bear crap in the woods? Duh.

DOMPIG CAUGHT LYING

 :shock:

 :shock:   Somebody explain to me, what I just think I heard on Greta????

That doesn't sound bad for the family.  Sounds like the freakin' truth coming out?????!!!!!!

I think she is just now getting around to the Dompig story.

I guarantee you it's the Julia Renfro LIE... un flipping real.

DumbPig Lied when he said they were guily as hell... or he said something like that  :?

If that's the case, then she should read here to get her breaking news!

 Hi yah Yap and OS and Mrs and others. Yap, ran in after you called.. TY!
I am confused. first its Nataless familt wont be happy... nw Dompiggy stuff?  Guess I have to be patient.. and see what ol Greta is gonna spew.

Yeah....................That's the part I don't get. But it's got something to do with the Amigoe story.

Boeti must have turned in Dompig

Heh heh

Praying tonight for Natalees family and friends as I have prayed for them this past 2 years plus..

God please give them strength again to endure all the cruelty thay have endured while missing Natalee.

that is supposed to be NEWS??????????????

Get ready for renfro to come on by phone in 20 mintes :(

Do you suppose Greta will have Renho on?

Can Al Sharton "get me" for that?

Robo Renho......... :lol:

ROTFLmaoooo (http://bestsmileys.com/lol/5.gif)

She hasn't even said anything yet!!  geeze

 Of course they do CBB  :)
 See I have proof  :wink:

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Yeah and it's late so she'll have been drinking for at least 12 hrs now.   :lol:  :lol: slur slur slur Greta slur slur  hiccup

S-H-A-R-P-T-O-N............Sorry.

That's an insult to Robots, anyway!  :lol:

Dompig = lying = "If I throw my golf clubs in the lake -- they'll get wet" :roll:

ribbit

 Now what did I do wrong?   :roll:

Greta STILL pronounces Holloway as HALLOWAY>  You'd think she'd get it right by now. :x

Ok, she said something about the Dutch report...  Wouldn't they notify the family before the media?

Greta: It's an alarming new DUTCH report.....???

the blurb I just heard makes it sound like greta is going to do the amigoe story.... just a guess.

Greta said is this news the family wants to hear.  An alarming new Dutch Report.

The Amigoe article is in alot of Dutch papers as well.  Let's just wait and see what she says.

I thought she said death report.

Hello Monkeys! I have Greta on too. Yes, I was playing with Angie's new toy. :lol:  :D

WANTS TO HEAR?

That's what I think, but would that be a Dutch report?

Way to be on top of things GRETA. The friggin Amigoe story came out last week and Greta passes it off as new news.

Hey Greta ... any thing to whore the case for ratings. Greta going to report BS as the news. What a piece of work.

you heard it here about 12 hours ago when i said something big was going to happen EARLIER today

nobody listens to me

 :x  :x  :x  :x  :x  :x  :x  :x

ROBOTS -

You missed [IMG] the part in red.

Well every teaser has been different, none of which makes sense or seems connected..

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I hope greta did some research for once before spreading more Aruban lies on TV.

Go John Q Kelly!  Yes!  Absurd!

It is about the 4K request.  False and crazy  per JQK. Beth was happy to follow up on it.  

Greta discussing the newspaper article.  who is behing the article?

JQK All investigators gone until Sept.

WELL at least JQK is on to keep it truthful!

JQK is on..............it's about the $4,000.00 lie and the Amigoe story.
JQK's handling it, called it ludicrous

JR is a source, according to Greta.

I do and ... I do not forget.


JANET IS A CHEATER

JQK said he received a call early June the Dutch investigators have gone home until September.

Oh Gimme a freaknig BREAK for God sakes,..

JQK on now..


Greta brings up Renho.. It is about the damn article basically

Gonna behave so I dont drop a F bomb here.  What bullshit.

John Q. Kelly just threw a spear through Julia Renfro.

 :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

Tamikosmom has a memory like an elephant.

ribbit

Good Lord! SM's not only had this story, but done a radio show with Jossy on it!  :roll:

JQK said Gerald Dompig is the one person who failed in this investigation.

JQK- disputing points in the article.   Patently false.

FBI dispute- Greta said, they were powerless to do anything.

JQK said they tried, and ALE would not let them participate.

One person failed and that was dompig.    

JQK said that he miss KJ. he still talks to her.

i cant shake it

 :shock:

 He sure did San!  and Fat Bastard too,,
JQK says he missed Karin Janssen and her input? Last I heard?

Well at least the crap going on by Renho is being exposed to the rest of America and JQK is on to keep it honest!

I would have to Say JQK blew that phoney story right outta the water. :wink:

LOL

Why didn't they blast Renfro??????  Greta almost sounded like she was ready to go there, but JQK didn't.

Bingo!!

I swear it's where Greta gets the info!!

 I am not in much shock about that one Kermit.  :evil:

 What a BITCH!

 :lol:

NEXT ON GRETA ...

BREAKING NEWS ,,,

JFK HAS BEEN ASSASSINATED  [/b]  :shock:

That's why I said earlier, she needs to read at SM for breaking news!

Yes he did....!!!  I love JQK.....I love the truth.... :)

Wonder if renho still thinks the answers are in the bottom of a bottle of Jose' Cuervo??? Have another swig renho!!!!   :twisted:

Well, I have to at least give Greta credit -- the segment was basically an expos'e on the IDIOCY of the Renho?Dompig article. :o

 :smt026  :smt026

Yes he did, just dismissed it as trash.  

*you look cute!

seems like the entire little crew just got speared....

That and her buddy Renfro..

My feelings exactly, Dihannah!  Thank goodness Greta used JQK to discredit the "documentary."

bingo! just my thoughts dihannah! the people who do not follow this case on the internet at least are hearing it as new news!!!!

too funny
 :smt025

That wasn't news that was pure gossip stretched into ratings. :x

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I'll bet it's fun being married to a smarta$$, huh, Mrs. Red?

I totally agree!  And Thank God, she had JQK on to expose it as a lie, instead of Taco!

I'm with you on that Red.  Disgusting.  I knew that was what she was up to.  I have lost so much respect for her and frankly Fox.  Remember when news dealt with things that were NEW and NEWSWORTHY?  To give any airtime to that piece of crap lie just proves how low she's willing to go.

You are correct sir.

Thanks, so do you Ms Sunny! :D

 LMAO  Wonder if she swallows the worm.. Umm Ohhh Nevermind,  :wink:

runs rampant in this family unfortunately.... :roll:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Made me think of worm...& Klaas's creation....'big worm' :lol:

Well, she could have Renfro on to "discuss it"  and least she had JQK

honestly, you do look cute but I miss your elton john avi... I loved that!!

 Hi Yah Cuz!

I should have known better.  To think there was going to really be anything new.

Awww............it made me laugh out loud!
(And I'd become a gambler to bet you hold your own!)  :lol:

But at least they didn't put Renho on the air to spew the garbage. I am actually pleased by the way it came off (although WE "in the know" about the case consider it old news)

From the way she stated the leadin she made it sound like it was news from the Dutch.  That was misleading!  I was getting excited that maybe the Dutch "had spoken."

   :lol:  Well dont you look HOT  Elaine    :)  Cute avi

LOL ... ;) ... I resemble that remark.  :lol:

good night.

Not even taco will attempt to defend these outrageous lies!! He wont touch it except to say that all that Info leads away from his client..

Boycott!!!!!!!!

is that you angie? i don't recognize you...lol!!!
really people....it is old news to us...but i for one am glad jqk came on to say how absurd the article was! actually.... it was good news for me!

Thanks Mrs Red, that will be back soon, but I did have fun with that avatar tool  :lol:

Can you believe they actually recounted that " We have Natalee" you just have to pay $4,000. but Beth would only offer $1,000. How stupid that sounded.

wreck you keep saying what i am typing before i can get it out :lol:

Renfro must be pissed she didn't get to deliver that story.   :lol:

Thanks, I got lost for hours playing with that meez avatar creator. LMAO!! You look cute too Ms bunny!

one thing that has me puzzled out what jqk was saying.....and maybe i am off base....anybody know the date he came on board????

I choose to look at the Greta segment as:
1) It put the story in the public eye again
2) She didn't FOSTER the story; had JQK there to expose it
3) Greta didn't have JR or Tacky there under the guise of "fair" with JQK
4) It brought us all together in anticipation!  :D

(It also showed how behind they are!)

Sorry to ask...but I'm   a little (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/6285fa1b.gif)
Could someone please give a short ReCap...
JQK... spearing people... (oh How is wish)

TIA

We did learn, that the Dutch team left a month ago and went home (with no result) and dont expect to resume their work until September.

CBB, the segment also showed what horses patooties Renho & Dompig are for spouting that line of garbage

I am telling you all, mark my word...when this lying piece of crap story by Renho sinks in with the American public it will backfire on her and Dompig.

So Greta bills a story that there is new news out of Aruba that the family is not going to be happy about. Funny thing is that over a week ago I spoke with Beth briefly and filled her in on this Amigoe article.

Greta must live in a time warp.

More breaking news from Greta ...

Hindenburg crashes ...

(http://www.vidicom-tv.com/hindenburg/images/3.jpg)

Sums it for me!! (and I guess cuz  :wink: )

Renfro needs to be cut off from all alcohol and married men and thrown in jail.  She is clearly lying as a witness and obstructing a murder investigation!!

Yea, I am not sure what to make of that part. Maybe they are preparing their case and will proceed then? .....likely they will wait for the completion of the deep water searches.

I knew Mr. Red was joking when he said that but it bothered me none the less. I was a young Mother when JFK was assasinated. It was a very traumatic event. The start of the loss of our innocence . To me it seems like it was the start of so much violence from the crazies.

It is not a topic I feel is jokeworthy. Sorry . Calling it a night now.

Oh the humanity!

RED


youre making me LOSE IT

I know Beth had that lawyer Helen for awhile, I cannot spell her last name. JQK came later.

I do not think Aruba has anything like that on the books for being illegal
JMO of course

 :shock:
 ROFL..  you are a great sport !!!   :wink:

Oh, ******* ... we are not supposed to use the "B" word. Or so it has been said to me by PC people from elsewhere.  yea, yea ..

BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ... BOYCOTT ...

CBB... he claims I am worse... (hardly)

I wasn't a joke about the event, it was a way of saying Greta is so far behind on the news..........

In Aruba. That does not mean that they aren't working on things in the Netherlands.

I actually have to give greta credit on the coverage of the pizza bomber and her questioning of how he was involved... I just don't see it myself...

this info on the miss nj story is a non-sequitr....

I can't believe after all this time that Renfro, Dompig, et al, just DON"T GET IT.
Don't they realize each time they pull a sleazy trick like this it just reinforces the boycott???

I wonder if AHATA likes how she is creating the atmosphere that causes decent people to NEVER want to visit that hellhole?

BOYCOTT!!!!!!!
SPREAD THE WORD!

I agree.  good summary.

If Greta has an ounce of integrity left she should NEVER have Renfroe on her show again.

I truly hope that you are joking. Its not the story that is being made light of ,,, its the timeliness of the reporting GEEZ.

I think I am the person who writes all the posts about missing persons, crime, tragic death, etc ... WOW. Just as a historical note JFK does not have the patent on assassination. Its been happening long before he was sadly killed. He is also not the most famous President to be assassinated ... that would be Lincoln.

I hope that is what they are waiting for.  I wonder why Jossy didn't know they had left?

 Need a cigar?  :twisted:

Does his name begin with L?.....has a disco in his house....BTW, I don't think his *dad* hung himself.

I gotta admit, I wondered the very same thing. Odd.

Ok
Reading between the lines   here
Greta's show was (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/28d958a4.gif)
Except the JQK   speared  everone  (I hope Greta too). Something about  for reporting last weeks news now ... A week late & a $$ or so ahead ... I guess

OMG! Would you just co-sign my name to your posts!  :lol:

I'm not sure that the police aren't reacting to criticism for not calling in the bomb squad immediately!
That footage is so very hard for me to watch.................Police everywhere, guns drawn and this guy is begging for help. And you know you're watching the last seconds of his life.

Regardless of how it turns out, there was room for criticism, IMO.

Could be that he was another "Arubacide".

Also, doncha love this stuff about the "boyfriend" from earlier in the week? Like, before Natalee even got there?

Is everyone on that island insane? Too much inbreeding? Something is very very wrong there.

Yes, but JFK was in many of our life times.  It does strike a cord.  I agree Greta was a week late in the reporting.  Maybe she was waiting for JQ to be available.

OF, you know it just as if you read the lines in BOLD!

JQK stated that JR was a source. That's what the "spearing" reference was about.

I believe Jossy when he says they are still there.  Maybe there are just a few Dutch team members spending the summer months and JQK does not know that.  The rest are working in Holland for the summer?

and we agree once again!!

 ART I agree

<I am behind a bit here. lol>

they are PREPARING the case

 8)

I hope so, I know they said 3 or 4 were left and the rest returned home.  JQK just sounded like they had all gone.

On a more serious note and this would be considered real breaking news ...

I may learn as early as tomorrow what the exact time frame is for Tim Miller & TES going to Aruba. We will not wait days and weeks to report. When I find out, SM will share it with y'all.

 :lol:

 :lol:

We can hardly wait!!!  Go Tim!!

Thanks, Red.

Greta segment transcribed by Heli at RU:

Greta On The Record
July 12, 2007

Transcribed from DVD Recording

Greta:

New report tonight in the Natalee Holloway case but is it absurd?

Natalee, as you know is the the teenager that disappeared more than two years ago from her highschool trip to Aruba. Here's the new report: it's in a Dutch newspaper and according to the Dutch newspaper, just days after Natalee vanished her mother learned that an anonymous caller claimed to know Natalee's whereabouts. According to the newspaper, the caller demanded $4,000 for the information but Beth said she would pay only $1,000.00 -- hence no information was forthcoming.

True or false? John Q Kelly, the attorney for Natalee Holloway's parents joins us from new York. I should say true or false or false and crazy?

John Q Kelly:

I think "absurd" was the best word you used at the start of the segment Greta. Clearly Beth or Dave would have traded their lives for any information regarding Natalee, not to mention $4,000.00. It was just a tip that Beth was more than happy to follow up on but it was obviously baseless information, no money was tendered and there was no information forthcoming. I know exactly what's being talked about.

Greta:

John, let's back up a second. This newspaper, it has a bunch of facts, it even has Dompig who ran the investigation, complaining about the FBI, saying they interfered. What's the story about this article? Who's behind it and why now?

John Q Kelly:

I think what's happened, if we back up a little bit Greta, there was a team of Dutch investigators over in Aruba and I was supposed to be given a final answer in late May, early June if there was going to be a prosecution in this case or not. In early June I received a phone call that the Dutch investigators had gone home until September so clearly they made no progress and there's no decision forthcoming and I think they just know that their investigation is stalled right now and they're looking to have other fall people. It looks like they're turning to Natalee's family and the FBI for that.

Greta:

In the newspaper article, some of the sources of the report are Julia Renfro, she's one of them, Dompig talked to them

John Q Kelly:

These are people I've talked to on numerous occasions, face to face and the information in there, I'm almost skeptical about whether they said it or not because it's just flat out false. It's like you said about the money, about Beth having flyers made up and distributed when she got off the plane when she got over there is wrong. The fact they wouldn't let the students be interviewed is flat out wrong.

Something like that I talked to Dompig about on many occasions, Karin Janssen on many occasions and tried to expedite the interviews and things like that, I was right in the middle of all that so I know is patently false these things they're saying.

Greta:

What struck me as bizarre is that there was the complaint that the FBI had interfered with the FBI. Our FBI and I remember that at the time out FBI had no authority to do anything and they just stood around and many of us were critical of the situation. Why was our FBI there is they were just standing around and powerless.

John Q Kelly:

As a foreign entity, the FBI had to be asked to get involved, they just couldn't unilaterally step in although they wanted to and the family was certainly asking them to. Aruba was steadfast in its determination not to let the FBI interfere, not to use their forensic testing, not to use their expertise and not to help them with assistance in any way and I know that for a fact. I was in the middle of that too and I don't know why they're saying this. The FBI has always been ready, willing and able to utilize all their resources to assisst in any way and it was flat out refused.

Greta:

If you had to say one person really failed in the investigation, who would that person be?

John Q Kelly:

Gerold Dompig, and he's the one in his famous interview who said "we know these boys did it, we just have to prove it". Now he's changed the whole thing to Natalee ran away and the FBI won't let us find her type thing. It is absurd Greta and if it wasn't so serious and tragic for the family, it's almost laughable.

Greta:

Will Karin Janssen ever talk? I know she's back in Holland but will she ever talk?

John Q Kelly:

Well I hope so, I mean I speak to her, she's back with her other job now and quite frankly, I hate to say it, I almost miss her and her input right now.

Greta:

John, thank you.

What nasty people.
I am surprised Debbie is allowing this to go on.

Thanks Red!

 I sure hope you are right Robots..
 Like I said . if something good comes out of al of this. I'll smoke a cigar along with ya  and Wreck.  <just havs a bucket handy for me. cuz I know I will get sick,, lol>

YEs, and they just continue to make a bad situation worse!
Insane.

Yeah! That's good news. Thanks!

I was leary about the teasers for Greta's reporting tonight, for I was thinking surely it's not something we don't already know.  We DO hear it first here  :D

I hear its nuts..Glad I am not there to see it!!!

Thanks Red..
I just hope all of the recent events do not interfer with Tim's efforts

 How disgusting.  And WHY is that Sallowed to happen at BFN anyhow?
 Are they NOT a pro family site? I mean I cant read there BUT hear enough BS from others that can. it amazes the hell out of me.  :roll:

Me too. I haven't been there in a long time. It really sounds like its changed a lot.

Well, you know if that is Angela or Julia they have some nerve. Doesn't Julia have 4 children from 4 different fathers, and not married to any of them?

KLPD returning in September.

 :arrow:  Returning   =  Not finished

IMO

They were always very pro family. Somthing must have happened there.  :roll:

Whenever a child is lost to a family it creates stress like I hope I never have to go through.
Marriages often break up.

Perhaps one day Julia or Angela may know this misery and perhaps there will be people ready to blame them and treat them hatefully.

Yep.  Also, in my mind just because they aren't in Aruba doesn't mean they aren't working on the case.  Don't forget, Joran and Guido are in the Netherlands.

TO PREPARE THE CASE 8)

 Must have Art... Cant read there unless you are a member.  Not joiing another site I sure cant keep u on. and one thats FOS by soe certain posters spweing garbage around.

Absolutely!

I thought BFN chat was by invitation, isn't it the one Slogger runs? Why'd they invite her?

I think the change happened when robin started saying not to boycott... it made some ppl think that they should be all pc... just a guess I don't read or post there...

I know, I have trouble just keeping up here lately! :lol:

But, you know, I just cannot ,for the life of me ,understand how anyone could trash a family that has lost their child. I just can't.

I am very disappointed in Robin.
I think you are probably correct, Mrs. Red. People tend to go along to get along.
Not me. I am still boycotting!

I will check it out.

Yes. I will even go as far as saying JQK's pessimism is unwarranted. The KLPD have had the case for almost a year now. They could have shut it down in June if they wanted.

I'll wait for an update from Lazlo...or TooTs.  :lol:

Medleyrelay posted at RU - guess she wasn't happy with Greta tonight, lol  :lol:

Medleyrelay wrote:

JQK is a perfect example of truly incompetent attorney that has no idea what he is talking about. That was pathetic. But no less than I would expect from him. And sad that Greta if she really wanted to actually get back into this story again and find the truth - then bring on some of the people like Dompig and Julia - allow them to explain this on national tv - just dont dismiss it. Pathetic - and Fox says they are about truth??? Bah!!

THanks, BleachedBlack

 I agree with you 100%. and those that HAVW.. it WILL come back to biet them in their sorry ass someday.

Yes, and I hope it does. THat sounds crude, but I truly think these people are a blight on the Earth.

 Maybe the crack is runnin low for her pipe in Crescent.  :roll:  :roll:

 :smt101  :smt101

Well, alrighty then.
And Medley would know, wouldn't she?
Another blight.

ROFLMAO!!!! :lol:

Klaasend
Thanks for snagging & dragging  that transcript Greta's show here

Robots
 Our Internet Buddie
I do hope you are correct...
You have no idea  how much I want to turn the words / meaning of this song from "Heart Breaks"  to  "Heart Celebrates"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2vAPgQCpzQ  by Rob Thomas

BTW
I know I'm being
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/708e2b1f.gif)



but can someone post/send  me a whistling Smiley so I can say Hi to the new Elaine
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/meerlyhere/mz_0109_10016936932.gif)

Sorry again for being  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/708e2b1f.gif)

I JUST GAVE  A UNIT FOR THE HINDENBURG.EVERYONE SHOULD GO.REPORTS OF UFO LANDING IN NEW JERSEY

OF  ROCKS !!!!!!

 :shock: 60 years after roswell they are back for some east coasters??

Awww shuckins... :oops: ... :wink:

Robots
Thanks ... but ROCKS...    :?  
No   this is more my speed (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/oldfart_crossing.gif)

ROFLMAO! :smt044  :smt044

I watched the show...and I'm not sure I covered all, but bolded something that stood out... :shock:  :roll:  (I also know I may be behind and repeating another's comments)

 :wink:  Art!

Yes,I was at Roswell and Cold creek,in Pa.i will have to return someday,but not yet.

nite y'all....

keep the faith.. I agree with CBB's assessment of the show and that is good thing..

Any word from Sun Freak.I just saw Tom Cruise fly by

those worms and green fairies are loose in the islands,again.we have a great liver transplant center here,we could work out a trade,with some.

nighty monkeys.I miss Kermit,my ole buddy

Anyone seen Rob tonight?  He's got some splainin' to do

G'nite Monkeys...

AngieX   I did not know (the Old)  You did video spots
Check the Lounge   http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1330
 :wink:

SeeeYaaByeee

Yeah, I fell asleep waiting last night for an answer......

He posted this at 1:30 this morning:

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject:    

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I see what is going on in the case currently. I have been looking all over the place and see the Dutch are ready to launch a counter strike on Natalee and Beth.

Sorry to say.. but it's coming - the writing is on the wall. Not only are they unwilling to close the case, they are about to attempt a total and complete fraud on the American public. This is the run up that you have been seeing.

They have been leaking a bunch of bullcrap to people of very questionable morals and they are about to attempt a total and complete slam job.

They have finally cooked up their final conspiracy theory and this one has apparently taken over a year to conjure up. Each and every time they tried a new theory it was quickly shot down... now they think they have the goods...this is gonna get pretty nasty if I'm correct here. What has happened so far is gonna be nothing compared to what will be coming.
=================================
And this one a short time later:  
I need some more info...but from what I am seeing all over the net and it is looking like this is a concerted effort to sort of close the case in a round about way. I believe (and this is still early as I am still figuring out what is totally happening) they may say an unidentified assailant has committed a crime with the help of Beth Holloway.

It seems that even some Dutch Congressmen are also pushing this new theory.

Like I said, I don't have all the info needed to make a definitive determination, but the early indications are something is very rotten and it looks like they may move on this new finding relatively soon.

Something horrible is cooking.
========================

 ******* wrote:
Rob wrote:
This is more than to counter Beth book in my opinion. Which I believe they could care less about.


They are kinda early for that..They sure do hate Beth and Nacy Grace in Aruba..  


*******, I'm not sure this even has anything to do with Beth's book...

I don't think they care one iota. This is not looking good imo...I hope to God I'm totally wrong here.

Klaas wrote: "Who? Where are you getting this information? Give us the links? "


I'll have to look for it again tomorrow... it's kinda late here and I don't know if I can find it now...

I saw it in a Dutch online newspaper earlier tonight and then went on a mission to see what I could find...I didn't save anything because I just just scanning and looking around.

I didn't intend to make an informative post on it, but after I thought about it, it looked like something is up.

I'm going to bed now, but if Rob shows up will someone please ask him for those links?

Good luck!  Already tried! Ain't been back since!

Night Kaysmom!

Will do

They just said on FOX news that they found the body of that little 12 yr old girl from Tacoma, Zina Linnick...how sad...our little children, how do we save them? :(

j

Yes, I just saw that too.  This is become way too common! :(

This is making me sick.  Seems every day another girl or young woman is murdered by some freak.  What is the matter with people?

Dihannah it is heart wrenching!

http://www.king5.com/

Police Statement - Tacoma Police announced that the body of 12-year-old Zina Linnik has been located in an area within Pierce County. The information came from a suspect currently held on an unrelated charge. More details to follow.

If Tyler were here she might tell you it's the 'beast' and increasingly I think we are seeing she's likely right. The beast may grow predators at such a fast rate they equal the good guys now, but are just hiding in plain sight.

Elaine I agree, our children, our innocents, and our future.

One has to wonder if Julia finally realized tonight who her friends are...........


or are not?


long time coming, that one.

Night all !

Klass--when you have a minute will you send Robots my email and ask him if I can have his

TIA
Marlee

It's absurd to say the Dutch are going to try to slam Natalee and create a scenario like you speak.

Why? Why would they have to do anything? Is some entity pressuring them for closure?

It would be easier to just do nothing. If someone or some group even makes it a priority and I hope's it's our government do you really think this is they way it would be handled?

Our own media hasn't done homework and people still take Aruba advertising money. I see this as PR, not unlike every time Tacopina comes on televisionl.

I see the opposite, because something is lighting up Aruba and those with interests, if not, why even engage at all?

Right now, there is nothing to close.

Had to LOL at that one. Sorry to go back so far in the thread and dig this one up, but I am left wondering, Robots... How do you really feel?  8)

Some people are sick as hell. Years ago, at least in this area, people who were mentally unstable were locked away. That is tabu now here. I do believe that mentally disturbed people should have some rights. But, they should be much more closely monitored and followed. If by God, they are thinking of harming another person or a child, lock them up...I say! So many of the people that get picked up for these crimes have previous criminal records. Yet, they are allowed to run free.

I just sent him your email addy.

From BRN   I'm a member.

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Let's all meet in the chat room:

http://blogsfornatalee.com/chat.html

Hi Frank!  Who are you addressing this post to?

Thanks Klass!

Hi Dugga! I am Elaine, nice to meet you, and have you here. :)

Love the Avi!

I tend to believe Tyler!  

Sometimes I wonder if it really is happening more or is it because we have access to news 24/7 and is more readily available than before?

Oh yeah,  more info. falls into what Tyler is talking about.

im still here  8)

Aruba is going to get nothing but NEGATIVE PUBLICITY from this
baloney.

Fools!

It's almost as if Aruba WANTS to be boycotted!

same here Dugga

nice to have you here...

and oh by the way...dont beleive these guys about me cheating
 to get the first post in on a new thread


its all KOOOOKEEEEEEE   talk


 :twisted:

I just checked BFN Chat room...a Mr Pink is there....my log in chat name is tworide

Click on link below log in and have a look see

Destiny


http://blogsfornatalee.com/chat.html

I am sure she was found somewhere by me I live in pierce county:(
if it was that guy arrest he lives less then 2 miles from me damn bastard

Aruba's latest lie campaign

Due to:

Stupidity?
Arrogance?
Hiding something big--fearful of exposure?

All Three?

All 3....and more

Marlee has mail  8)

Got it! Thanks Robots!

 :wink:  8)

Forum is loading slow for me again tonight.  Think I'm going to go play a couple games then call it a night.

GOODNIGHT ALL!

Yes, no motivation exists for this scenerio. It is very important to seperate *news from Aruba* from the ongoing KLPD investigation. Two totally different things.

As for tourism... :arrow:

Hard to imagine anything worse than what Greta and JQK presented tonight. A ten minute convo on a callous, lying police chief and *absurd* accusations. Very costly, considering the negative base image Aruba already owns. Over 2 years later and certain Aruban spokespeople are re-animating all these negative images from the summer of 05.

A few days ago I noticed a thread at W/S about the island of Ibiza in the Mediterranean having closed the biggest Dance Clubs on the island for a month--for suspected drug dealing and tolerance in the three big ones, Bora Bora, DC-10, and Amnesia & how things may have been different on the Devil's Island had they taken some similiar action.

After the initial posting there came questionable posts by posters whose names I did not recognize that put aspersions toward family & MB students & to me they were similiar to posts that I have heard mentioned on other websites by some of you.

I did post my take on these disgusting posts & the moderator locked that thread soon thereafter & she also posted the W/S TOS in red, on many of the threads regarding actions to be taken in the event that family, friends or victims are bashed.

There does appear to be a movement to repeat old lies, add some new ones & speak disgustingly about this travesty of injustice.

BOYCOTT ARUBA, they enable the murdering of Americans for sport, IMO.

I take it that Greta didn’t find Dompig, Julia and Angela believable!  Lol

A serious investigative journalist should take a hard look at this whole thing.  The recent Amigoe article is only a small taste of what Natalee’s family has endured for over two years.  They had no idea the extent of evil that engulfed Aruba.

I do hope that Beth’s book exposes every last one of these people that tried to take advantage of her and others.

Dompig was a big problem due to the position he held and his complete incompetence, but I think those that befriended Beth in those early days carry a heavier burden.  Can you imagine the relief she probably felt when she met two American women living in Aruba?  She probably put all her trust into those two monsters in the beginning and I imagine it was a bitter pill to swallow when she realized what she was dealing with was not human.

Crush ‘em with words and truth!!!!!!!!

I am at member at BFN. You do not have to be 'invited' to the chat room I went to, just have to be a member at BFN. I just clicked on the link Debbie posted when she said..."let's all go to the chat room." Perhaps there is another chat room tht is by invite only, I do not know.

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
24ora
http://www.24ora.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

Diario isn't updated for today ... is this a holiday? I'll check later.

Happy Friday - Friday the 13th  :shock:  !

FUBARUBA!

She is in denial  :roll:
Back in May (5-21-07) 'Disgustedmom' posted an interesting comment that I had thought of, as I am sure many of us have...only my thought was...Anita. Anyway, Disgustedmom thinks that MedleyRelay may be Joran due to the name Medley(conglomeration) Relay (pass on message), she says her name is 'JAN' =JorAN. However, I believe it is Anita just from listening to the way Anita speaks (her manner of speech) on the news shows, then compare that to how Medley comes across in her posts. Also, if you search on google 'Joran Van der Sloot' google will ask you if you mean JAN Van der Sloot. If you remember correctly, Medley is said to have met the family...SURE SHE HAS----SHE IS THE FAMILY, LMAOOOOOO!!
Disgustedmoms post is here
http://tinyurl.com/yskzqt   remark# 178

I went for an hour or so. I was there to late to witness any family bashing, but there were some posters with questionable objectives. You are right the main chat-which is where they were is a link on the main page at BFN. then there is another hidy-hole, hosted by Slogger I believe.

Easy you hit the nail right on the head.

I'm sure Aruba was not happy with what Greta reported last night.  They went from giving away a free trip on the CBS Morning show right back to the jackasses they are.  Great going.

I don't care how people perceived the story last night because it keep Natalee in the news.  To say an Aruban police chief (Gerald Dompig) was the biggest problem in the Natalee Holloway investigation was just awful publicity for Aruba.

I wonder if they want their money back for the free trip they gave out :wink:

BOYCOTT ARUBA.

I didn't realize it was Friday the 13th until you just mentioned it :shock:

I wonder if the winners of that trip will have it on ebay today!   :lol:

Is FOB finally dissolving?   :twisted:

In the context of the recent Amigoe.com story about the FBI etc., I have been meaning to remind folks that Amigoe.com and Dompig also planted this outrageous story about Max DeVries. It came out in July or August of 2005. IMO the sole purpose was to shore up the idea that Natalee ALSO was an insurance scam.

To this day folks on Aruba think Max is alive, mom arrested, etc. You can read some of the comments about this on the thread for Peter De Vries.



At some point the link to the story became obsolete; unfortunately the exact publication date therefore was lost (at least to me - if someone knows the date I would love to have it). The article above was actually brought over from RU.

Fairly recently, we asked Jossy about this case, on Dana's show. Jossy said the case was closed; he sounded a little surprised at being asked about such an "old" case.

And Rob has stated that despite the case being closed, Mrs. DeVries has not received a copy of the investigation records.

 :lol:

I just tried to go there-that is too weird!I wonder who put that pic up and why..I didn't hang around,did you?If so what else did you see?I was to skeerd to go any farther. :shock:

This is Aruba's main goal right now not to give Beth a copy of the investigation records.

Sigh....

do to all these recent developments I am about to recommend to the producers of the Kickradio Show that we do something, well controversial...

As many of you might know, kickradio has listeners in 120 countries world wide...

95% of those listeners are young adults 18 to 25

90% of that 18 to 25 demographic is "female"...

I believe we need to now point out the dangers of "clubbing" -- especially for young females, and especially in Aruba...

And, if we get any flak for this... well, i am ready to pint out that this is due to the recent offensive to cover the truth by trying to dirty the victim's family in all of this...

It is sick, pathetic and downright BS...

I have tried to restrain myself, but this has gone too far...

for someone to come out and say this, without anything to back it up or any reasoning behind why they feel this way is just a little beyond silly.  I'm not saying I totally disagree with the idea but at least show us why you (whoever wrote it) feel this way.

I tried to get out of there as quick as possible.  Didn't know what I was looking at and didn't want to stay to find out :shock:

I know that's how I felt...also a message popped up to run ActiveX or something like that so I exited pronto :lol:  :twisted:  :twisted:

Nooooooooo, I didn't hang around and I am going to run a scan now! lol

That place has gone CRAZY!

 :lol:  :lol:

Somebody hacked there site..lol!!!

The new name is Pit 10 Ownz you... :shock:  :twisted:

ROFL!! They will be forced to use there other names at RU.. :twisted:  :lol:

I see Amigoe.com has a article on the domestic violence in bonaire!! Since Jan Van Der Straaten is the Police Commissioner none of this should be news since the same thing happened in Aruba.

The biggest percentage of being willing to report domestic violence is with the abuse of women; 27 percent. Sexual offences are not being reported.  Sealy’s definition for domestic violence is ‘slurring on the integrity of the victim by a person in the victim’s domestic environment’.  Mental, physical, and sexual violence are being distinguished.

Domestic violence in Bonaire shocking  

KRALENDIJK – It appears form last year’s police figures that at least five times per week, assistance is needed for domestic violence.  In four of the five cases, these are penal offenses.  With the assumption that 10 percent of domestic violence is reported with the police, the real numbers of domestic violence can only be estimated.  There were 220 reports of domestic violence in 2006.  If this is 10 percent, it means that in reality there were 2200 cases, about 15 percent of the population of Bonaire .  

 http://www.amigoe.com/english/

definitely a "hack job" -- appears to be Dutch -- but their website "link" goes to something "Arab" or "Muslim" ----- weird.

DON'T GO TO THESE SITES UNLESS YOU ARE HEAVILY ARMORED WITH ANTIVIRUS, ANTI-TROJAN, ETC.!!!!!!!

Must be a holiday or something in Aruba as none of the newspapers are updated :(

www.freedomofblog

Catchy tune, eh???  (http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/6.gif)
(http://bestsmileys.com/zapped/4.gif) They will be back, I am sure. Plus the real Fob'ers have FOB2 Freedom of Blog/Freedom from Trolls  :roll: Eventually someone in there will turn on someone else and we will gain access to their 'secret hideaway', lmao..Freaks.

Yeh FOB2 is unscathed but he is hacking the hell out of FOB as we speak.. :P

YEAH!  FUBARUBA!!!!!!!

And - TGIF - even if it is the 13th!!!!

Morning Monkeys!

Sounds like Muslim music to me...I was able to track back something.
http://photo.kliper.nl/cat/mensen/1/ (it is safe, lol)

Google>>Kees Cornelisse
Results 1 - 10 of about 47,700 for Kees Cornelisse. (0.09 seconds)
It is Dutch and I have seen this name somewhere in the past 2 years several times in my searches but can't remember where or why, lol. I do not believe the hackjob is harmful to surfers...it only looks and sounds scary (http://bestsmileys.com/scared/8.gif)
I am heavily armoured, but anything is penatrable.

Could be an inside HACK because they have the other private site now anyway. Ummmm...I just checked back and the hackjob has changed to another hack.

Morning Monkeys.I had a  long night of fighting off aliens and helping Hindenburg survivors.The scum on aruba,because like Bill and George said,you have to admit you have a problem,to get find a solution.Other Islands show concern,compassion and solve the crimes(TURKS<JAMAiCA<BAHAMAS).Thus they maintain a postive image.In Nothern Europe,the image of Islands like Ibiza has been scarred by drugs and rapes.The only reason to protect jvds,is the tourist are not that importent.JMO

DON'T FEED THE TROLLS,so leave the dark side alone.I have felt for years that child molesters are increasing due to several factors.Letting them out jail,easy of movement,communication to see what others are doing.People need to organize to fight this and the corruption that allows joran to exist

...Let's face it; the Internet facilitates these Cretans. :cry:

:D  8)  :D

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa118/Observer00000007/fearnoevil.jpg)

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa118/Observer00000007/spy.jpg)

Good Morning to everyone!  AMEN to the above.....I see a lot of speculation but nothing to back it up.....post your thoughts and speculation as just that please...and not as fact....JMHO of course...

That was a great picture, *******.

Yes,the internet offers us a forum,while opening doors to creatures,like joran.Wish we could stop the porn people like mr. pink,while keeping scared monkeys

Something just mentioned on FOX about the NH case coming up in a few minutes.

Fox news channel or Fox??

Klaas

Please check your hotmail.  Thanks

news channel

Fox cable - sounds like the usual regarding the Renfro/Dompig article.  They said something like a Dutch publication saying Beth got a call (referring to the $4000) ransom I assume.  It will turn out to be nothing.

*******,it hasn't came on yet but it's supposedly about the mysterious phone call.

I get the feeling that Dompig is basically an idiot that changes his tune depending upon who he might be talking to at the time.  If all these people think it is good PR to blame America (75% of their annual tourist) for their short-comings, they are dumber than most pigs!

I've never heard of anything quiet like this one.  It's almost juvenile in its ineptness.  Every American needs to know about this BS!!!!!!

Klaas

I put a post under the unsolved crimes link,  It may not be the right place for it, can you check it out?

Thanks

It's fine where it is. Thanks!

msmarple,
That Amigoe article came out about two weeks after Natalee went missing.  Max's name showed up at RWV and the next thing you know this shows up in Amigo.

Ok Thanks..I hope this all backfires in there face!!

If you read the Simian posts that we have saved, many of these ideas were posted there.  I'm waiting to hear Julia and Angela post about the boyfriend that came earlier to the island and left after the MB crowd.  Seems to be the only "inside scoop" that hasn't been mentioned by latest article.   :roll:  :roll:

Good morning.

Working and lurking.

Good Morning Peaches TGIF.

FOB is back up :?

I say go for it... the more that know, the better!

well heck, can't someone give him the other address???

truthseeker2 - Yes, thank you. I knew this was mentioned at RWV. I have tried so many times to figure out the date of the Amigoe article, which does in fact mention "internet rumors."

Everything I could round up about Max is on the M&C thread, and most is also in the Peter De Vries thread. (I thought Peter DV might be really annoyed about that particular wrinkle, but to my knowledge he never followed up on it.)

I'm just making the point, though, that Amigoe.com looks to be a "plant rumor" device. And Dompig a willing channel. IMO.

I am so sure that folks on Aruba will now believe that the FBI obstructed the investigation and that Beth has been implicated in Natalee's disappearance.

They also believe that Max is alive and was an insurance scam.

Good Morning All-

Yesterday I looked for the links. I clear my cache every night and do not usually save links in a history file.

The info is out there - somewhere. I prolly should not have made that post, but I see an effort to discredit Beth and I don't like it. It's not like this is new. Whether this is for Dutch consumption or Arubans living in Hollands - I don't know. If you recall, I said I need more info and that would be needed to make a definitive conclusion.

As we all know, Beth said someone could be lobbying for Joran at the Hague.

When I saw the article with a Dutch Congressmen mentioned and the Case I got very interested and started to look for other info related to that item.

If this is a issue for some, I suggest you use the web and find info yourselves. I saw the article and tried to look for it again yesterday. No luck. That's what happens when you are just scanning. I don't save every link I stroll across. I do not possess Janet's moxy!

I know that Congressmen Tom Lantos (D-CA) is up to his eyeballs in all things Dutch and I have written \ researched  about him on my site. He seems to have his head up the ass of the Dutch.

So I am interested in the dynamics of the political end of this spectrum.

This case involves more than just Natalee - DUH!

We all know that.

I believe I have done my share of research and I don't lie. My Al Gore internet, I assume, works just like your's...The info is out there if you just look.

btw- Terrible news about Zina. This is making me terribly ill. I think we need to speed up executions. That might put a damper on it. When people think they will live another 10-20 years in prison they don't seem to mind when their lives are a miserable wreck any way.

ttyl.

This morning I was told this.

The people here have paid very little attention to all the rumors that have been started by R and A. No effect whatsoever. Besides, everyone knows that Natalee did not leave Aruba by Air Ambulance!

actually, they just pointed out that the $4k scam was just that, a scam... played the JQK piece from Greta....

seems like someone has gotten the message that  most Americans  don't want to hear the BS spewing forth...

Your right every young lady should know that sexual assaults go unreported in places like Aruba and Bonaire..You get raped and they will tell you to shut up,get over it and go home!!

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

Domestic violence in Bonaire shocking  

Sexual offences are not being reported

The Amigo article on Max DeVries came out around 7-15-2005. I'm the one that did the post on about that piece of disinformation.

Here's the link - I won't forget that in the future.

http://tinyurl.com/26tgfm

btw- as you can see Muffinhozer has a link to Amigoe and this is not a new area for her.

I honestly think that girls should be told that it can happen anywhere... and to keep to the buddy system... which doesn't seem to be happening... look at Immette St. Gillien, (sp?) Stepha Henry... and the list goes on....

just because you are in college or graduated high school doesn't make you impervious...for whatever reason it seems like these days

kids don't get it.... they seem to think nothing can happen to them... and how are we going to make them aware?

Rob ... I contend that influential individuals within the Dutch administration are participants in the coverup .... conflicts of interest abound at every level of the Dutch and Aruban administration in relation to Paulus van der Sloot.

I have never had faith in the Dutch investigators.  I have always suspected that their involvement has been one giant PR campaign ... one giant PR campaign to convince the world that everything possible was done for justice to prevail prior to closing the Natalee Holloway case or ... deeming it an open but cold case  

http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/2007/03/more-conflicts-of-interest-in-response.html

__________________


Beth Twitty
On the Record w/ Greta
November 14, 2005

VAN SUSTEREN: They are saying that even the AG is controlled by The Hague, so they're keeping Karen Janssen on ...

TWITTY: Well Greta, somebody is lobbying for Joran in the Hague in order to protect him ... it has to be.

Lmffaoooooo@ Muffinhozer (http://deephousepage.com/smilies/laugh2.gif) gotta love all the nicks!
I agree w/ you Rob that while scanning sites and searching stuff one does not save everything...Hell..I even lose stuff I know I saved, lmao, even though I am very organized (most of the time).

I agree with you on this.  Amigo seems to be a rag that is used for that purpose.  I may have a copy of the original article on Max on my laptop at home.  If I do I will post a copy of it.  (I'm supposed to be working right now.  hehe)

Easy,
That's good to hear (read).  I'm glad you are able to continue to get information from Aruba.

Good day to all the monkeys and others that read here.   I told you guys to let Julia and her minions "Bring it on!"  The more they say the dumber they look.  I had not mentioned any of this latest to my husband in the past two weeks.  First thing he and the person that was watching with him, at work, the Greta segment said was...."Are those people as stupid over there in Aruba as they look?"  My husband said, "You have no idea."  

Yes, this was a very good thing to happen.  Sorry, Aruba....once again...you lose.

Think I will help Red out.....BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!  BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!

I agree Tamikosmom.

We have always heard about the Hague connection for a long time now.  And it was through Anita.  Tyler was the one who mentioned that information.  Anita is a flake in life and Paulus married her for connections.  Paulus knew with his evil mind and Anita's connections he could go far.  After all Joran said it best.  They felt no need to get married and why should they Paulus was getting what he wanted. He had his mistress and he wife both having his evil children.  JMO

I am in a good mood,a serial killer caught in Tn.A trucker,who has said one vic is in our area.Now hang him.I am a liberal,conservatives want to keep him in jail for years,then hang.I SAY BOYCOT,I don't care what others think,BOYCOT<THEN BOYCOT some more

IIRC,ABC had a show on Primetime talking about the Nigerian scams,that run through Dutch banks,hmmmmm.I have heard about the same scams being run out of internet cafes in the ABC's,hmmmm.I wonder if this is the source of the support.Like mr Murphy said,Principle is really about money

Will it blend??

http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone

I guess Julia thought she would be invited on all the US shows for her big media moment. Guess again, Julia. No one wants your mug on their show to spew this trash. You are not going to be famous. You are not going to be believed.

Julia, stop before you make an even bigger fool of yourself or get yourself SUED BIGTIME.

Oh, and thanks for keeping Natalee's case on TV. Guess it isn't working out the way you planned, Julia. It is BACKFIRING BIGTIME as anyone with common sense and integrity could have seen.

thanks Easy...it good to know that not everyone over there are evil and stupid!! :wink:

thanks Mrs. Red...I was out in the garden and missed it!!  How any one could THINK that the family would NOT pay any amount to get Natalee is so far off the scale...I'd love to know how many people tried to scam the family....we know Dave was asked immediately how much money he had...it started immediately :shock:

Mrs. Red, that's it right there....when we are young we think nothing bad can happen to us....it was so out of character for Natalee to go off with 3 strange young men....but she did...whether because of having too much to drink, being drugged, bad judgement....or a combination of two or more of these....but damn it it happened.....if only there wa some way to get young women, especially,  to take heed and be cautious....sigh

I hope she keeps it up......cause somehow IMO she is involved in the coverup.....and when it's proven I hope she finds herself in an Aruban prison!!

And Al Gore said that is a cause of Global warming,go Dompiq

Bhammom/AC/Sultan/Rolls at RU

Let me help you out with that hanging photo.  It was not found at SM or BFN.  It's posted on a very anti-semetic site called Judicial Inc.  I will not post the link to the site because overall the site is very hatefull.  

Google "judicial inc" and you will find the site.  Several different stories of which NH is one.  A very anti-semetic site that has nothing to do with SM or BFN.

This is another example of RU and FOB attributing crap to SM and BFN in error.

Attention Aruba!  The only way to get the monkey off your back about Natalee (yes, pun intended) is to prosecute those that are involved and give her body back to her family.  Problem is, you can't do it.  I fear there is no body to give back.  Those that know are keeping silent and those that could have solved this long ago are hiding with their heads in all that man made sand over there.  Sorry to be so direct, but until the average person in Aruba decides to come forth with information that leads to the guilty parties, nothing, and I repeat, nothing is going to change.

 It's been two years and still Natalee Holloway is one of the stories that keeps everyone glued to the television.  You can't deny it!  Everyone wants to get those responsible for what happened. There will be no peace for anyone until justice is served.  The Dutch know this...they have their hands tied due to their own corruption.  The ALE knows this. The FBI knows it isn't going away.  They have more than they are saying and the Dutch know they do.  Why do you think this case isn't closed yet?  Everyone on Aruba wants it to just go away...yet the Dutch have yet to close the case.  

Aruba will be forever linked to this idea....read it well...it's your destiny Aruba....

 ARUBA... THE PLACE WHERE NATALEE HOLLOWAY WENT MISSING AND WAS NEVER FOUND AND NO ONE WAS EVER HELD RESPONSIBLE.  

Terrific post LaLa's!!

Sorry behind as usual here, but I hope Greta does not decide to put Julia or Taco on tonight to allow for "fair and balanced" reporting.  I hope the topic is complete.  I am sure she got lots of email from the otherside.

I would like to see her put Renfro on, if she would nail her on each and every word!  But, that is too much to expect out of Greta.

I just wonder why Fox was so slow to pick up on this latest effort to discredit Natalee's family.  I for one sent the info complete with links to them the day it was published and I don't think I missed an email address in their contact list.  I'm sure many others did the same.  All they had to do is follow the links to the written and to the video.

Kimberly G needs to jump on this over the weekend!  I don't think she would take much crap coming from Renfro.

There are days when I get up and think how absolutely absurd some of this stuff that has been thrown out there. I get so frustrated about things and then I think about Natalee's family.  I see every new thing that is happening in my own daughter's life and think...Natalee could be doing that too.  Then my heart just breaks all over again for this family.  The pain and humiliation they have endured and tolerated and tried at times to prevent is indeniable.  It's cruel.  It's EVIL to it's core.  I don't know all the details of everyone's family life, I have no idea who gets along with whom...but what difference does it make anyway?  

A person.  A flesh and blood...Oxygen breathing human being.  The kind of being that has totally disappeared off the face of the earth.  Things that the suspects and those involved have said continue to ring through my ears..."no body , no crime"..."she was a slut"..."get in the car with 3 strangers"...even the inevitable..."she asked for it" comments.  I have come to one conclusion and it's frightening.

I am surrounded by evil...it's all around me to the point that I fear it will eventually take over.  This world is in very sad shape.  There is more bad out there every day.  We can't protect our kids anymore because those we trust to protect them are those that would do them harm also.   When will this stop?  When?

Sorry, I think I am depressed over all this today.  I think I may need a break.

It's depressing the hell out of me too!  Every other day we learn about another young life cut short by some predator.  It is getting really hard to take.

I guess we could all hide our heads in the sand and hope it goes away...but it won't and I guess that's what makes it so hard to accept...we all care too much.  There are good people left in this world...I just hope most of them aren't monkeys.  It seems us lower life forms are the only ones that notice how bad things are getting...okay I need to find another topic...Shango perhaps?  :wink:

Lala, you are so right, and it is so depressing.  I was looking at the Maddie McCann link last weekend, and the pictures of that sweet beautiful child, and I just started crying.  How can this be happening in our world?  How can there be such selfish cruelty?

Don't let the trolls get ya' down!  There are mean people everywhere.  I used to wonder why or how people could be so mean, but then realized that is wasted time.  Just spending time repeating the garbage they say is defeating in itself to us and it means they win if it keeps up.  Don't feed 'em.  Don't give them attention by reacting with emotion.  Treat them in a business like manner.  They will hate it.

And all Aruba had to do in the first place was to give Natalee justice.
No one was asking the impossible/no one was expecting Aruba to bring
Natalee back to life. No one was even blaming Aruba for the crime itself, even though the crime could have been prevented if ALE had been on the ball.

And one thing that Aruba might not realize, viewers see this case as going beyond Natalee. But that I mean, viewers take it personally.
They care about Natalee, of course, but also take note that this is the way their own families would be treated.

BOYCOTT ARUBA--Growing numbers will agree. Thank Julia, Dompig, and Angela for the boost. And all three have put themselves in a precarious legal position with these outlandish lies.

On a lighter note...lunchtime for me.  Tomato, cucumber sandwiches...yum, yum.  That's what I like about the South...all the fresh vegetables.  Anyone hungry?

Eats, drinks, doesn't shoot, and leaves ...

This is terribly off topic, but a strange story indeed.

That sounds delish.  My neighbor came by and gave me a bag of red, ripe home grown tomatoes.  Think I'll go in and make a tomato, avocado, sprout, cucumber, provolone cheese on whole wheat toast for lunch.  The Texas blueberries are particularly nice right now too. Oh, and need a nice tall glass of sun tea to go with that.