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Title: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 - 8/16/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 23, 2012, 04:01:18 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
 ::MonkeyReindeer::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Magnolia on December 01, 2012, 11:27:35 AM


               ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2012, 11:28:05 AM
With each thread change in Natalee's forum, I wonder what the future holds and what news we may have before the next change.  I continue to hold hope Beth will have the answers she needs and I pray Natalee may one day be home again.  ::bee::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2012, 11:28:36 AM


               ::ElfMonkey::

 ::hohohosanta::  Hiya!! 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 01, 2012, 12:15:15 PM
With each thread change in Natalee's forum, I wonder what the future holds and what news we may have before the next change.  I continue to hold hope Beth will have the answers she needs and I pray Natalee may one day be home again.  ::bee::

 ::rhino::

Thank you MuffyBee for the clean cage, and for finishing up the last thread so beautifully!  ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::bee:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 01, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
I think most who have followed Natalee's case will remember this guy...wonder what other questionable and/or illegal contracts he entered into?  He obviously didn't think the rules applied to him. 

One in particular always comes to mind when I think of this guy.  Still have to wonder about that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Aruba%202/EdisonBriesen.jpg)

BRIESEN, Edison - Minister of Transportation & Tourism

From the same page...

COHEN, Stephen J.    -  American residing in Aruba. Strategic Message Design Group (SMDG) Consulting Team chairman, adviser to the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) and the Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force. Appeared on the Dr Phil Show in January 2006 as Aruba’s spokesperson claiming that 2 of the boys reported having sex with Natalee, and that J2K were guilty, after which he was severely reprimanded by Tourism Minister Briesen.  Has sister company to SMDG called Cohen DiLella Broadcast Group. Cohen now resides in California.



In today's news...

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/137849-ex-minister-briesen-voor-rechter-vanwege-aangaan-dubieus-miljoenencontract

Google translation:

Ex-minister for justice because Briesen engage dubious million contract         

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2012 8:15

ORANGE CITY - In the case of the American festival producer Lee Tofanelli against the Aruban government should former minister Edison Briesen (MEP) is the right answer for concluding million contracts. The contracts were signed by Briesen in conflict with the law, according to the lawyer who defends the country Aruba.

The contracts were for the organization of Aruba Music Festival where many famous music stars performed. There are several contracts with Tofanelli, the last just before the 2009 elections. The successor Briesen as Minister of Tourism, Otmar Oduber (AVP) honored this contract and refused the services of the festival producer to pay. That tells lawyer Chris Lejuez the government defends.

Oduber did this on the basis of reports by the Central Audit Department (CAD) and the Public Prosecution Service (OM) drafted. This shows that ex-Minister Briesen tender has held for the services of the movie producer while though according to the Accounting Act had been. Ministers may in this Act otherwise make an exception and based on valid reasons, no public tender for services that keep more than 1 tonne florin costs. If this is selected, the Minister must be a ministerial decision Plan with the reasons why there was no public tender was held. But that has Briesen was omitted. This all happened in seven of the eight years that the contracts were applicable.

Millions of stories

It says Lejuez, ATA has tourist office at the time, several times the then Minister of Tourism negative opinion for entering into contracts with Tofanelli. These opinions, he ignored, says the lawyer. And that is perhaps one of the motives been said Lejuez why the judge now thinks that the former minister responsible and why Briesen in January in the courtroom accountability must be accountable. The risk is also present that Briesen millions have to pay to the government now Tofanelli Country Aruba in court has summoned. The festival producer demands based on the recently signed contract is $ 3,000,000. If the court finds that the government will have to pay that amount, but also finds that Briesen in conflict with the law has acted, then the government can recover the million amount Briesen, lays out the counsel.

The ex-minister does not otherwise criminal case against him to fear. According Lejuez there is a report from the Attorney General's indication no reason to see Briesen criminal prosecution.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 01, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=27957

The PCCS operators to boost fast broadband access in the Caribbean, Central and South America

Posted by Aruba Daily on December 1st, 2012

• The PCCS consists of Cable & Wireless Communications, Setar, Telconet, Telefonica Global Solutions and United Telecommunication Services (UTS)

• 100G Pacific Caribbean Cable System spanning 6000km will link Florida and Ecuador and help increase digital integration and capacity growth in the region.

Aruba, November 30, 2012 – A group of telecommunications operators consisting of Cable & Wireless Communications, Setar, Telconet, Telefónica a Global Solutions and United Telecommunication Services (UTS) has signed a turnkey contract with Alcatel-Lucent (Euronext Paris and NYSE: ALU)  to deploy the Pacific Caribbean Cable System (PCCS), a 100G submarine cable system linking Jacksonville, Florida to Manta, Ecuador.

The 6000km submarine cable system will strengthen digital links as demand grows rapidly throughout the Caribbean, Central and South America for online content such as tourism related services, sports coverage and digital TV. Work will start before the end of the year and commercial operations for the PCCS are scheduled to commence by the third quarter of 2014.

In addition to Florida and Ecuador, the system will connect the islands of Tortola, Puerto Rico, Aruba and Curacao, as well as Cartagena in Colombia and Maria Chiquita and Balboa in Panama. The system will have an ultimate design capacity of 80 Terabit-per-second, dramatically boosting connectivity and substantially increasing the availability of broadband services. Additionally, the PCCS will increase communications reliability and help reduce the risk of communications disruption by providing cable route diversity and alternative bandwidth access to existing cables in the region.

The Alcatel-Lucent solution to be deployed for the project includes an integrated 100G wet plant of cable optimized with coherent submarine fiber and high bandwidth repeaters, power feed equipment, and its 1620 Light Manager (LM) submarine line terminal equipped with advanced coherent technology. Offering unique flexibility and scalability to accommodate multiple data rate wavelengths, the Alcatel-Lucent 1620 LM enables seamless capacity upgrade on flexible grid for channel spacing without traffic interruption. The solution will be managed by the Alcatel-Lucent end-to-end submarine management system. As part of the turnkey contract, Alcatel-Lucent will also be responsible for project management, system design, marine operations and system commissioning.

“With the signing of this agreement, we are ready to roll-out this new undersea system which will offer a clear evolution path toward faster speeds and higher capacity communications. The PCCS will help the CALA region and its people to benefit from sustainable social and economic growth. Alcatel-Lucent’s industry-leading submarine technology and its invaluable customer commitment will help us deliver high-quality and reliable services to meet end-users’ demand.”

 ::snipping2::

Large map of the projected path of the cable:

http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Internet2.jpg

 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Magnolia on December 01, 2012, 01:50:59 PM
I think most who have followed Natalee's case will remember this guy...wonder what other questionable and/or illegal contracts he entered into?  He obviously didn't think the rules applied to him.  

One in particular always comes to mind when I think of this guy.  Still have to wonder about that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Aruba%202/EdisonBriesen.jpg)

BRIESEN, Edison - Minister of Transportation & Tourism

From the same page...

COHEN, Stephen J.    -  American residing in Aruba. Strategic Message Design Group (SMDG) Consulting Team chairman, adviser to the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) and the Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force. Appeared on the Dr Phil Show in January 2006 as Aruba’s spokesperson claiming that 2 of the boys reported having sex with Natalee, and that J2K were guilty, after which he was severely reprimanded by Tourism Minister Briesen.  Has sister company to SMDG called Cohen DiLella Broadcast Group. Cohen now resides in California.



In today's news...

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/137849-ex-minister-briesen-voor-rechter-vanwege-aangaan-dubieus-miljoenencontract

Google translation:

Ex-minister for justice because Briesen engage dubious million contract         

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2012 8:15

ORANGE CITY - In the case of the American festival producer Lee Tofanelli against the Aruban government should former minister Edison Briesen (MEP) is the right answer for concluding million contracts. The contracts were signed by Briesen in conflict with the law, according to the lawyer who defends the country Aruba.

The contracts were for the organization of Aruba Music Festival where many famous music stars performed. There are several contracts with Tofanelli, the last just before the 2009 elections. The successor Briesen as Minister of Tourism, Otmar Oduber (AVP) honored this contract and refused the services of the festival producer to pay. That tells lawyer Chris Lejuez the government defends.

Oduber did this on the basis of reports by the Central Audit Department (CAD) and the Public Prosecution Service (OM) drafted. This shows that ex-Minister Briesen tender has held for the services of the movie producer while though according to the Accounting Act had been. Ministers may in this Act otherwise make an exception and based on valid reasons, no public tender for services that keep more than 1 tonne florin costs. If this is selected, the Minister must be a ministerial decision Plan with the reasons why there was no public tender was held. But that has Briesen was omitted. This all happened in seven of the eight years that the contracts were applicable.

Millions of stories

It says Lejuez, ATA has tourist office at the time, several times the then Minister of Tourism negative opinion for entering into contracts with Tofanelli. These opinions, he ignored, says the lawyer. And that is perhaps one of the motives been said Lejuez why the judge now thinks that the former minister responsible and why Briesen in January in the courtroom accountability must be accountable. The risk is also present that Briesen millions have to pay to the government now Tofanelli Country Aruba in court has summoned. The festival producer demands based on the recently signed contract is $ 3,000,000. If the court finds that the government will have to pay that amount, but also finds that Briesen in conflict with the law has acted, then the government can recover the million amount Briesen, lays out the counsel.

The ex-minister does not otherwise criminal case against him to fear. According Lejuez there is a report from the Attorney General's indication no reason to see Briesen criminal prosecution.


I always thought that Eddie Breisen was one of the crookedest of the crooks in aruba.

I wondered why the last document didn't quote Steve Cohen in that last document
from the Kalpoe Lawsuit.   I think there is even a video of him saying that two of
the three boys had admitted to having sex with Natalee.
Edit to fix quote/missing bracket.  MB


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 01, 2012, 04:53:48 PM
I think most who have followed Natalee's case will remember this guy...wonder what other questionable and/or illegal contracts he entered into?  He obviously didn't think the rules applied to him.  

One in particular always comes to mind when I think of this guy.  Still have to wonder about that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Aruba%202/EdisonBriesen.jpg)

BRIESEN, Edison - Minister of Transportation & Tourism

From the same page...

COHEN, Stephen J.    -  American residing in Aruba. Strategic Message Design Group (SMDG) Consulting Team chairman, adviser to the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) and the Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force. Appeared on the Dr Phil Show in January 2006 as Aruba’s spokesperson claiming that 2 of the boys reported having sex with Natalee, and that J2K were guilty, after which he was severely reprimanded by Tourism Minister Briesen.  Has sister company to SMDG called Cohen DiLella Broadcast Group. Cohen now resides in California.



In today's news...

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/137849-ex-minister-briesen-voor-rechter-vanwege-aangaan-dubieus-miljoenencontract

Google translation:

Ex-minister for justice because Briesen engage dubious million contract         

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2012 8:15

ORANGE CITY - In the case of the American festival producer Lee Tofanelli against the Aruban government should former minister Edison Briesen (MEP) is the right answer for concluding million contracts. The contracts were signed by Briesen in conflict with the law, according to the lawyer who defends the country Aruba.

The contracts were for the organization of Aruba Music Festival where many famous music stars performed. There are several contracts with Tofanelli, the last just before the 2009 elections. The successor Briesen as Minister of Tourism, Otmar Oduber (AVP) honored this contract and refused the services of the festival producer to pay. That tells lawyer Chris Lejuez the government defends.

Oduber did this on the basis of reports by the Central Audit Department (CAD) and the Public Prosecution Service (OM) drafted. This shows that ex-Minister Briesen tender has held for the services of the movie producer while though according to the Accounting Act had been. Ministers may in this Act otherwise make an exception and based on valid reasons, no public tender for services that keep more than 1 tonne florin costs. If this is selected, the Minister must be a ministerial decision Plan with the reasons why there was no public tender was held. But that has Briesen was omitted. This all happened in seven of the eight years that the contracts were applicable.

Millions of stories

It says Lejuez, ATA has tourist office at the time, several times the then Minister of Tourism negative opinion for entering into contracts with Tofanelli. These opinions, he ignored, says the lawyer. And that is perhaps one of the motives been said Lejuez why the judge now thinks that the former minister responsible and why Briesen in January in the courtroom accountability must be accountable. The risk is also present that Briesen millions have to pay to the government now Tofanelli Country Aruba in court has summoned. The festival producer demands based on the recently signed contract is $ 3,000,000. If the court finds that the government will have to pay that amount, but also finds that Briesen in conflict with the law has acted, then the government can recover the million amount Briesen, lays out the counsel.

The ex-minister does not otherwise criminal case against him to fear. According Lejuez there is a report from the Attorney General's indication no reason to see Briesen criminal prosecution.


I always thought that Eddie Breisen was one of the crookedest of the crooks in aruba.

I wondered why the last document didn't quote Steve Cohen in that last document
from the Kalpoe Lawsuit.   I think there is even a video of him saying that two of
the three boys had admitted to having sex with Natalee.
Edit to fix quote/missing bracket.  MB

Me too.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Magnolia on December 01, 2012, 05:16:24 PM
Thank You, Miss Bee!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 01, 2012, 05:53:27 PM
Thank You, Miss Bee!!

You're welcome!   :rendeer:


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on December 02, 2012, 12:07:50 AM
.... an off topic post to my monkey friends

I just wanted to thank everyone this week for the responses in support. I know that I flew off the handle a bit and I GREATLY regret causing Klaas another major headache! We don't nearly express enough our gratitude for the tireless effort she has put in her totally VOLUNTARY job here. It is quite remarkable and we all owe her a debt of gratitude!

I've  had a week off here since Thanksgiving that allowed me to spend some extra time catching up and reflecting a bit of where we have been since 2005 and where we might be heading in pursuing justice for Natalee. This forum has always been the one place where I truly believe we can make a difference. I kind of think we are at a time in which we can rejuvenate some positive energy to start getting some answers in the Dr Phil case. I hope we can all come back together to make it happen!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 02, 2012, 12:20:48 AM
Thanks Wreck ::MonkeyCool::

By the way, when the trial does start, I will do my best to try and get to Los Angeles to watch at least one day of it. 

 04/08/2013 at 08:32 am in department 89 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference

04/22/2013 at 09:00 am in department 89 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial (10 WEEKS)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: carpe noctem on December 02, 2012, 12:45:06 AM
I think most who have followed Natalee's case will remember this guy...wonder what other questionable and/or illegal contracts he entered into?  He obviously didn't think the rules applied to him.  

One in particular always comes to mind when I think of this guy.  Still have to wonder about that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Aruba%202/EdisonBriesen.jpg)

BRIESEN, Edison - Minister of Transportation & Tourism

From the same page...

COHEN, Stephen J.    -  American residing in Aruba. Strategic Message Design Group (SMDG) Consulting Team chairman, adviser to the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) and the Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force. Appeared on the Dr Phil Show in January 2006 as Aruba’s spokesperson claiming that 2 of the boys reported having sex with Natalee, and that J2K were guilty, after which he was severely reprimanded by Tourism Minister Briesen.  Has sister company to SMDG called Cohen DiLella Broadcast Group. Cohen now resides in California.



In today's news...

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/137849-ex-minister-briesen-voor-rechter-vanwege-aangaan-dubieus-miljoenencontract

Google translation:

Ex-minister for justice because Briesen engage dubious million contract         

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2012 8:15

ORANGE CITY - In the case of the American festival producer Lee Tofanelli against the Aruban government should former minister Edison Briesen (MEP) is the right answer for concluding million contracts. The contracts were signed by Briesen in conflict with the law, according to the lawyer who defends the country Aruba.

The contracts were for the organization of Aruba Music Festival where many famous music stars performed. There are several contracts with Tofanelli, the last just before the 2009 elections. The successor Briesen as Minister of Tourism, Otmar Oduber (AVP) honored this contract and refused the services of the festival producer to pay. That tells lawyer Chris Lejuez the government defends.

Oduber did this on the basis of reports by the Central Audit Department (CAD) and the Public Prosecution Service (OM) drafted. This shows that ex-Minister Briesen tender has held for the services of the movie producer while though according to the Accounting Act had been. Ministers may in this Act otherwise make an exception and based on valid reasons, no public tender for services that keep more than 1 tonne florin costs. If this is selected, the Minister must be a ministerial decision Plan with the reasons why there was no public tender was held. But that has Briesen was omitted. This all happened in seven of the eight years that the contracts were applicable.

Millions of stories

It says Lejuez, ATA has tourist office at the time, several times the then Minister of Tourism negative opinion for entering into contracts with Tofanelli. These opinions, he ignored, says the lawyer. And that is perhaps one of the motives been said Lejuez why the judge now thinks that the former minister responsible and why Briesen in January in the courtroom accountability must be accountable. The risk is also present that Briesen millions have to pay to the government now Tofanelli Country Aruba in court has summoned. The festival producer demands based on the recently signed contract is $ 3,000,000. If the court finds that the government will have to pay that amount, but also finds that Briesen in conflict with the law has acted, then the government can recover the million amount Briesen, lays out the counsel.

The ex-minister does not otherwise criminal case against him to fear. According Lejuez there is a report from the Attorney General's indication no reason to see Briesen criminal prosecution.


I always thought that Eddie Breisen was one of the crookedest of the crooks in aruba.

I wondered why the last document didn't quote Steve Cohen in that last document
from the Kalpoe Lawsuit.   I think there is even a video of him saying that two of
the three boys had admitted to having sex with Natalee.
Edit to fix quote/missing bracket.  MB

I see Steve wrote a book in 2011 that nobody ever read, bought or cared about. This made me laugh.
THE GUY IS A COMPLETE ROBO-TOOL! ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

I know I am bad sometimes - I'm sorry - but I hope he chokes on a hairball.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 02, 2012, 01:47:42 AM
.... an off topic post to my monkey friends

I just wanted to thank everyone this week for the responses in support. I know that I flew off the handle a bit and I GREATLY regret causing Klaas another major headache! We don't nearly express enough our gratitude for the tireless effort she has put in her totally VOLUNTARY job here. It is quite remarkable and we all owe her a debt of gratitude!

I've  had a week off here since Thanksgiving that allowed me to spend some extra time catching up and reflecting a bit of where we have been since 2005 and where we might be heading in pursuing justice for Natalee. This forum has always been the one place where I truly believe we can make a difference. I kind of think we are at a time in which we can rejuvenate some positive energy to start getting some answers in the Dr Phil case. I hope we can all come back together to make it happen!



ITA wreck!

I don't know how she does it, but she does!  She's superhuman.

And I appreciate ALL that she does here more than I could ever put into words.

THANK YOU KLAAS!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyHeart::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: carpe noctem on December 02, 2012, 01:52:07 AM
The road to hell is paved with people just like Steve Cohen. You give me the cash - I'll sell you my essence, my soul, my integrity.

Used. Some will say refurbished to feel better about being used. Whatever turns you on.

Steve is but a very small footnote on a flea's bum.

It was easy money! ::hohohosanta:: Merry Christmas, Steve.

I hope your stocking is chock full of crap you find terribly unappealing... and you get rickets, or crabs... or something that makes you walk funny. :smt111


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Northern Rose on December 02, 2012, 02:25:12 AM
Colombians went missing during cruise vacation Aruba

  01.12.2012 15:38 | NEWS | Elisa Cake

CURACAO - A group of Colombians during their cruise vacation is not returned to the ship after a stop in Aruba. The crew suspects that the vacationers deliberately not returned and illegal stay in Aruba.

The staff of cruise Horizon reported twenty Colombians lost yesterday to the Aruban police. The group was in Cartagena quit for a cruise through the Caribbean. After Aruba would also Curacao, Venezuela and Panama are visited.

http://www.versgeperst.com/nieuws/184330/colombianen-vermist-tijdens-cruisevakantie-aruba.html


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 02, 2012, 03:14:01 AM
I thought this was interesting.  Do Berry and Hanni (den Boer) Peters have a daughter that's a tour guide in Cambodia?  I've only seen pictures of Berry so far with her in Cambodia, and she refers to Hanni as "mum" or "mum Hanni" on FB.  She has Anita listed as family on FB and Berry in the family picture album, he is also referred to as "grandpa Berry" in one of the pictures.  Just thought it was interesting that there may have actually been a relative living in close proximity to where Joran was for quite a while.  And I know Joran was said to be in Cambodia at times too.


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4555760616388&set=a.1615302666777.87872.1362656400&type=1
Hanni Peters-den Boer
Share · August 25
3 people like this.

Beth McCrea You look fabulous!
August 26 at 6:58am

Hanni Peters-den Boer Thank you xxx
August 26 at 9:52am

Aing Solin You look so amazing with this dress!
August 27 at 7:21am

Aing Solin mum you also look so slim these day!!
August 28 at 10:25am


https://www.facebook.com/solin.aing

Aing Solin's Photos
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/183402_535951053086838_1528591057_n.jpg)
Aing Solin
Share · October 3
Aing Solin likes this.

Aing Solin Ramon is curious about his grandpa Berry!?lol
October 19 at 8:35am


Aing Solin
About
Work and Education
Employers

Tour Guide
Siem Reap

College
Pannasastra University of Cambodia
Phnom Penh
High School

10 January high school
Phnom Pen, Phnum Penh, Cambodia
Living
   Siem Reap
Hometown


Family

Aing Pisal
Brother

Wong Justin
Son

Theary Sieng
Cousin

Kong Kesey
Sister-in-law

Anita Hugen


http://www.khmerangkortourguide.com/tour-guide-list.html

ENGLISH SPEAKING GUIDE
NAME   SEX   CODE NUMBER   GENERATION
AING SOLIN   F   834   5



https://www.facebook.com/pages/Aing-Kimsann-Motocycle-Spare-Part-Shop/235962479770135



http://www.raisingjane.org/journal/18894

Cambodia: with Laab recipe
Posted on August 1, 2012 by MaryJane

 ::snipping2::

It’s one of those places I thought I’d only visit in history or geography books. And yet there I was … staring, not at a page, but at the most well-preserved Hindu (later turned Buddhist) temple in the world. Angkor Wat was built in the early 12th century in this region of Cambodia that would later gain infamy for its killing fields under the Khmer Rouge regime in the 1970s.

While Angkor Wat is the most well known and most visited of the temples in Cambodia, I was fortunate to have a guide well versed in the temple treasures hidden in the lush landscape surrounding the city of Siem Reap.

Solin Aing not only educated me on Hindu and Buddhist architecture and folklore, but she also took me to her local market.

 ::snipping2::

(http://www.raisingjane.org/journal/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/geography-cambodia-4973.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 02, 2012, 03:24:25 AM
Another FB for Solin Aing...

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001449354488

Solin Aing

Friends:

Lesley Lamont
Curtin University


Aing Pisal
Pharmacist at Royal Angkor International Hospital


Hanni Peters-den Boer


Stephen Tindle
Columbia University

Berry Peters
Duiven


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 02, 2012, 03:54:37 AM
The road to hell is paved with people just like Steve Cohen. You give me the cash - I'll sell you my essence, my soul, my integrity.

Used. Some will say refurbished to feel better about being used. Whatever turns you on.

Steve is but a very small footnote on a flea's bum.

It was easy money! ::hohohosanta:: Merry Christmas, Steve.

I hope your stocking is chock full of crap you find terribly unappealing... and you get rickets, or crabs... or something that makes you walk funny. :smt111

I agree with you Carpe, sad part is he is only one of so many we've seen in this case.  It's ridiculous!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 02, 2012, 03:59:34 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Tibrogargan on December 02, 2012, 06:52:18 AM
.... an off topic post to my monkey friends

I just wanted to thank everyone this week for the responses in support. I know that I flew off the handle a bit and I GREATLY regret causing Klaas another major headache! We don't nearly express enough our gratitude for the tireless effort she has put in her totally VOLUNTARY job here. It is quite remarkable and we all owe her a debt of gratitude!

I've  had a week off here since Thanksgiving that allowed me to spend some extra time catching up and reflecting a bit of where we have been since 2005 and where we might be heading in pursuing justice for Natalee. This forum has always been the one place where I truly believe we can make a difference. I kind of think we are at a time in which we can rejuvenate some positive energy to start getting some answers in the Dr Phil case. I hope we can all come back together to make it happen!



ITA wreck!

I don't know how she does it, but she does!  She's superhuman.

And I appreciate ALL that she does here more than I could ever put into words.

THANK YOU KLAAS!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyHeart::



Ditto from me.   

We need a "Super Monkey" icon to use when we post to Klaas, like we have a Bee for Muffy.

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Tibrogargan on December 02, 2012, 06:54:35 AM
The road to hell is paved with people just like Steve Cohen. You give me the cash - I'll sell you my essence, my soul, my integrity.

Used. Some will say refurbished to feel better about being used. Whatever turns you on.

Steve is but a very small footnote on a flea's bum.

It was easy money! ::hohohosanta:: Merry Christmas, Steve.

I hope your stocking is chock full of crap you find terribly unappealing... and you get rickets, or crabs... or something that makes you walk funny. :smt111

I agree with you Carpe, sad part is he is only one of so many we've seen in this case.  It's ridiculous!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

None of the people involved in this case could lie straight in bed they are so crooked.

Nasty people on a nasty island.

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 02, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
I wonder if "mum" is being used  as a title of respect, affection or esteem rather than a marriage or blood relationship?  From past experience, I've been called "mum" by some when I lived in another country.  I don't really know how it applies in this case, but it was just a thought.  Maybe there are some relationships here.  Ya'll are pretty good at piecing things together.   :smt111


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13363.msg1547386#msg1547386

 ::snipping2::
I thought this was interesting.  Do Berry and Hanni (den Boer) Peters have a daughter that's a tour guide in Cambodia?  I've only seen pictures of Berry so far with her in Cambodia, and she refers to Hanni as "mum" or "mum Hanni" on FB.  She has Anita listed as family on FB and Berry in the family picture album, he is also referred to as "grandpa Berry" in one of the pictures.  Just thought it was interesting that there may have actually been a relative living in close proximity to where Joran was for quite a while.  And I know Joran was said to be in Cambodia at times too.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 02, 2012, 08:35:54 AM
The road to hell is paved with people just like Steve Cohen. You give me the cash - I'll sell you my essence, my soul, my integrity.

Used. Some will say refurbished to feel better about being used. Whatever turns you on.

Steve is but a very small footnote on a flea's bum.

It was easy money! ::hohohosanta:: Merry Christmas, Steve.

I hope your stocking is chock full of crap you find terribly unappealing... and you get rickets, or crabs... or something that makes you walk funny. :smt111

I agree with you Carpe, sad part is he is only one of so many we've seen in this case.  It's ridiculous!

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

None of the people involved in this case could lie straight in bed they are so crooked.

Nasty people on a nasty island.

 ::justice2NJ::


Evil is as evil does and there are some very evil people involved in this case.  JMHO  :smt096



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 02, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
I wonder if "mum" is being used  as a title of respect, affection or esteem rather than a marriage or blood relationship?  From past experience, I've been called "mum" by some when I lived in another country.  I don't really know how it applies in this case, but it was just a thought.  Maybe there are some relationships here.  Ya'll are pretty good at piecing things together.   :smt111


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13363.msg1547386#msg1547386

 ::snipping2::
I thought this was interesting.  Do Berry and Hanni (den Boer) Peters have a daughter that's a tour guide in Cambodia?  I've only seen pictures of Berry so far with her in Cambodia, and she refers to Hanni as "mum" or "mum Hanni" on FB.  She has Anita listed as family on FB and Berry in the family picture album, he is also referred to as "grandpa Berry" in one of the pictures.  Just thought it was interesting that there may have actually been a relative living in close proximity to where Joran was for quite a while.  And I know Joran was said to be in Cambodia at times too.
 ::snipping2::


Could be MuffyBee, thanks for sharing your experience.  Do you think "grandpa" is used  in the same way?  TIA


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on December 02, 2012, 10:38:15 AM
 


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Aruba%202/EdisonBriesen.jpg)

BRIESEN, Edison - Minister of Transportation & Tourism

From the same page...

COHEN, Stephen J.    -  American residing in Aruba. Strategic Message Design Group (SMDG) Consulting Team chairman, adviser to the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) and the Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force. Appeared on the Dr Phil Show in January 2006 as Aruba’s spokesperson claiming that 2 of the boys reported having sex with Natalee, and that J2K were guilty, after which he was severely reprimanded by Tourism Minister Briesen.  Has sister company to SMDG called Cohen DiLella Broadcast Group. Cohen now resides in California.



In today's news...

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/137849-ex-minister-briesen-voor-rechter-vanwege-aangaan-dubieus-miljoenencontract

Google translation:

Ex-minister for justice because Briesen engage dubious million contract         

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2012 8:15

ORANGE CITY - In the case of the American festival producer Lee Tofanelli against the Aruban government should former minister Edison Briesen (MEP) is the right answer for concluding million contracts. The contracts were signed by Briesen in conflict with the law, according to the lawyer who defends the country Aruba.

The contracts were for the organization of Aruba Music Festival where many famous music stars performed. There are several contracts with Tofanelli, the last just before the 2009 elections. The successor Briesen as Minister of Tourism, Otmar Oduber (AVP) honored this contract and refused the services of the festival producer to pay. That tells lawyer Chris Lejuez the government defends.

Oduber did this on the basis of reports by the Central Audit Department (CAD) and the Public Prosecution Service (OM) drafted. This shows that ex-Minister Briesen tender has held for the services of the movie producer while though according to the Accounting Act had been. Ministers may in this Act otherwise make an exception and based on valid reasons, no public tender for services that keep more than 1 tonne florin costs. If this is selected, the Minister must be a ministerial decision Plan with the reasons why there was no public tender was held. But that has Briesen was omitted. This all happened in seven of the eight years that the contracts were applicable.

Millions of stories

It says Lejuez, ATA has tourist office at the time, several times the then Minister of Tourism negative opinion for entering into contracts with Tofanelli. These opinions, he ignored, says the lawyer. And that is perhaps one of the motives been said Lejuez why the judge now thinks that the former minister responsible and why Briesen in January in the courtroom accountability must be accountable. The risk is also present that Briesen millions have to pay to the government now Tofanelli Country Aruba in court has summoned. The festival producer demands based on the recently signed contract is $ 3,000,000. If the court finds that the government will have to pay that amount, but also finds that Briesen in conflict with the law has acted, then the government can recover the million amount Briesen, lays out the counsel.

The ex-minister does not otherwise criminal case against him to fear. According Lejuez there is a report from the Attorney General's indication no reason to see Briesen criminal prosecution.
Breisen ad Cohen are such slimeballs - will say anything to keep people happy. Is being a slimeball a requirement for residence on "One Happy Island"?  Everybody is happy b/c they are all crooked.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 02, 2012, 12:02:17 PM
I wonder if "mum" is being used  as a title of respect, affection or esteem rather than a marriage or blood relationship?  From past experience, I've been called "mum" by some when I lived in another country.  I don't really know how it applies in this case, but it was just a thought.  Maybe there are some relationships here.  Ya'll are pretty good at piecing things together.   :smt111


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13363.msg1547386#msg1547386

 ::snipping2::
I thought this was interesting.  Do Berry and Hanni (den Boer) Peters have a daughter that's a tour guide in Cambodia?  I've only seen pictures of Berry so far with her in Cambodia, and she refers to Hanni as "mum" or "mum Hanni" on FB.  She has Anita listed as family on FB and Berry in the family picture album, he is also referred to as "grandpa Berry" in one of the pictures.  Just thought it was interesting that there may have actually been a relative living in close proximity to where Joran was for quite a while.  And I know Joran was said to be in Cambodia at times too.
 ::snipping2::


Could be MuffyBee, thanks for sharing your experience.  Do you think "grandpa" is used  in the same way?  TIA

I don't really know, texasmom.   :smt102  That's why I put in my disclaimer.   :smt111   But sometimes there are these cultural things etc. that can read as meaning something different than what another culture may read it.  That said, with "mum" and "grandpa Berry" put together, there could be family ties, especially with the other information you've compiled.  Interesting indeed.   :smt045  It's gotten so I don't believe so much in coincidences any more, especially when it comes to Natalee's case and anything remotely associated with Aruba.     ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 02, 2012, 12:18:26 PM
I wonder if "mum" is being used  as a title of respect, affection or esteem rather than a marriage or blood relationship?  From past experience, I've been called "mum" by some when I lived in another country.  I don't really know how it applies in this case, but it was just a thought.  Maybe there are some relationships here.  Ya'll are pretty good at piecing things together.   :smt111


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13363.msg1547386#msg1547386

 ::snipping2::
I thought this was interesting.  Do Berry and Hanni (den Boer) Peters have a daughter that's a tour guide in Cambodia?  I've only seen pictures of Berry so far with her in Cambodia, and she refers to Hanni as "mum" or "mum Hanni" on FB.  She has Anita listed as family on FB and Berry in the family picture album, he is also referred to as "grandpa Berry" in one of the pictures.  Just thought it was interesting that there may have actually been a relative living in close proximity to where Joran was for quite a while.  And I know Joran was said to be in Cambodia at times too.
 ::snipping2::


Could be MuffyBee, thanks for sharing your experience.  Do you think "grandpa" is used  in the same way?  TIA

I don't really know, texasmom.   :smt102  That's why I put in my disclaimer.   :smt111   But sometimes there are these cultural things etc. that can read as meaning something different than what another culture may read it.  That said, with "mum" and "grandpa Berry" put together, there could be family ties, especially with the other information you've compiled.  Interesting indeed.   :smt045  It's gotten so I don't believe so much in coincidences any more, especially when it comes to Natalee's case and anything remotely associated with Aruba.     ::boxingjoran::

Ain't that the truth!  Thanks MuffyBee!   ::bee::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 03, 2012, 12:39:20 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Beth_hollowaytruestorygall-.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 04, 2012, 12:42:43 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/06132011_Stephanyandhermom-1-1.jpg)

Justice for Stephany!

 ::justice2NJ:: 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 04, 2012, 02:54:30 AM
.... an off topic post to my monkey friends

I just wanted to thank everyone this week for the responses in support. I know that I flew off the handle a bit and I GREATLY regret causing Klaas another major headache! We don't nearly express enough our gratitude for the tireless effort she has put in her totally VOLUNTARY job here. It is quite remarkable and we all owe her a debt of gratitude!

I've  had a week off here since Thanksgiving that allowed me to spend some extra time catching up and reflecting a bit of where we have been since 2005 and where we might be heading in pursuing justice for Natalee. This forum has always been the one place where I truly believe we can make a difference. I kind of think we are at a time in which we can rejuvenate some positive energy to start getting some answers in the Dr Phil case. I hope we can all come back together to make it happen!



ITA wreck!

I don't know how she does it, but she does!  She's superhuman.

And I appreciate ALL that she does here more than I could ever put into words.

THANK YOU KLAAS!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyHeart::



Ditto from me.   

We need a "Super Monkey" icon to use when we post to Klaas, like we have a Bee for Muffy.

 ::MonkeyDance::


AND, HERE SHE COMES....... TO SAVE THE DAY..........!


(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/super_monkey-21.gif)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 05, 2012, 12:38:42 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 05, 2012, 07:31:50 PM
http://www.curacaochronicle.com/region/historic-contract-cap-and-repsol-for-exploration-oil-and-gas/

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/12052012_CAP_Repsol-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 05, 2012, 07:39:06 PM
https://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=36047

Wednesday, December 05, 2012 08:26

 
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 16 MAY 2006 under serial number 34834.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
CAP COMPANIA ARUBANO DI PETROLEO

 
Business address   L.G. SMITH BLVD. 76, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   CAP COMPANIA ARUBANO DI PETROLEO N.V.
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   15 MAY 2006
    
Authorized capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 100,000.00
Issued capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Paid up capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 20,000.00
Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
CURET, EDUARDO ARMANDO;
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 11 DECEMBER 1950
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   15 MAY 2006
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
1. HET ONDERZOEKEN NAAR EN DE WINNING VAN PETROLEUM IN HET ZEEGEBIED ARUBA, ALSMEDE HET VERVULLEN EN UITVOEREN VAN BIJ DE PETROLEUMVERORDENING OPGEDRAGEN TAKEN;
2. HET (DOEN) OPSPOREN, HET (DOEN) ONTWIKKELEN EN/OF HET (DOEN) BEHEREN VAN PETROLEUMVOORKOMENS IN HET ZEEGEBIED;
3. HET DEELNEMEN IN EN HET VOEREN VAN BEHEER OVER ANDERE ONDERNEMINGEN, DIE EEN SOORTGELIJK DOEL VOEREN;
4. HET FINANCIEREN VAN DOCHTERMAATSCHAPPIJEN, GROEPSMAATSCHAPPIJEN, AFHANKELIJKE MAATSCHAPPIJEN EN DEELNEMINGEN, WAARONDER BEGREPEN HET INSTAAN VOOR SCHULDEN VAN DIE MAATSCHAPPIJEN EN DEELNEMINGEN.

Google translation:

1. THE INVESTIGATIONS AND TO THE EXTRACTION OF PETROLEUM IN THE SEA ARUBA AND THE PERFORMANCE AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PETROLEUM REGULATION TASKS ASSIGNED;
2. THE (DO) DETECTION, THE (DO) DEVELOP AND / OR (DO) MANAGING IN THE MEDITERRANEAN PETROLEUMVOORKOMENS;
3. THE PARTICIPATING IN AND USE OF MANAGEMENT ON OTHER COMPANIES THAT A SIMILAR PURPOSE CARRY;
4. THE FINANCING OF SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, ASSOCIATED COMPANIES AND ASSOCIATES, INCLUDING THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEBTS OF COMPANIES AND ASSOCIATES.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 05, 2012, 08:23:56 PM
https://www.arubachamber.com/registers

REPSOL ARUBA
Business name: REPSOL ARUBA B.V.
KvK nr: 42540.0
Business Address: L.G. SMITH BLVD. 64, ORANJESTAD WEST

Well the detailed record of this company in the Aruba Chamber records has obviously been jacked with imo... But maybe it's just when I click on the detail to view it so maybe someone else will try and get the details.


http://mintportal.bvdep.com/MintPortal-OJMJFIGICIEIDIAICICI.urk

REPSOL ARUBA B.V.

    If you wish to buy a business report on this company, please click here.
 
Private company
 

CONTACT INFORMATION

 
Location   'S-GRAVENHAGE, Netherlands


Only a limited report is displayed. To see the full report please sign in


http://www.parlamento.aw/index.php?simaction=content&pagid=11&stukid=885&mediumid=1

Parlamento di Aruba

Meetings

Assembly Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs 11.29.2012
Download this blog as PDF document
Place   : Committee Room of the States
Time   : 10:00
Chairman   : Yrausquin, JDE mr.
AGENDA:

1  Exchange of views with Arubano Compania di Petroleo SA (CAP SA) on the agreement which will be signed between CAP SA and Repsol Aruba BV concerning the exploration and exploitation of seabed resources in the maritime empire of Aruba



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 05, 2012, 08:36:41 PM
Weird - this is what I see when I check the Aruba Chamber for Repsol

https://www.arubachamber.com/registers (https://www.arubachamber.com/registers)

Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 31 DECEMBER 1969 under serial number . is the company with the tradename:
 
 
Business address    ,
Legal form    
Name of the company    
Date of commencement    31 DECEMBER 1969
     
 
Main branch: FUNDACION ANTI DROGA ARUBA (F.A.D.A) registered under number 0 located at DAKOTA SHOPPING PARADISE/AVENIDA DON MILIO CROES 51, ORANJESTAD OOST
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS
;
   
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
CORNERSTONE CORPORATION N.V.;
   
Business address   EMMAPLEIN 4/POSTBUS 178, PHILIPSBURG, SINT MAARTEN, NETHERLANDS ANTILLES
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
WEVER, REYNALDO MODESTO;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 13 NOVEMBER 1936
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
DE VRIES, JOHANNES JACOBUS PIETER;
   
Born in   THE NETHERLANDS, HAARLEMMERMEER on 15 DECEMBER 1944
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
ODUBER, CORNELIA JOSEPHINE;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 30 MARCH 1947
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   BOARD-MEMBER
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   
 
CROES, JUAN LUCIO EDUARDO;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 24 NOVEMBER 1953
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
MOLINA, JOSE ALEJANDRO;
   
Born in   ARGENTINA, BUENOS AIRES on 11 JANUARY 1957
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
CARLO, ANTONIO AMADEO DIOMEDES ANIANO;
   
Born in   NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, CURACAO on 26 JULY 1957
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
ROBLES, DENNIS;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 26 APRIL 1960
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
BEYDE, CLIFFORD ARNOLD;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 18 JANUARY 1964
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
CHAVARRIA VALVERDE, BERNAL ALBERTO;
   
Born in   COSTA RICA, SAN JOSE on 22 JUNE 1965
Nationality   COSTA RICAN
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   13 JULY 1999
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
, ;
   
Born in   on 31 DECEMBER 1969
Nationality   
Position   OWNER
Effective   16 JULY 1999
Authority   FULL
 
HESE-FLUONIA, SANDRA ALINE IZBERTHA;
   
Born in   on 28 APRIL 1197
Nationality   
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
DE HAAR-TRIMON, MARIA LUISA;
   
Born in   ARUBA on 02 DECEMBER 1956
Nationality   
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
JANGA, GLENDA MARINA;
   
Born in   NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, BONAIRE on 21 NOVEMBER 1952
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
VAN HEYNINGEN, JOAN;
   
Born in   ARUBA on 29 OCTOBER 1958
Nationality   
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
JANSEN, EGILIA BEATRIX;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 12 JANUARY 1952
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SECRETARY
Effective   28 FEBRUARY 2007
Authority   RESTRICTED
 
SCHWARZ, KURT HENRY;
   
Born in   U.S.A., NEW YORK on 26 SEPTEMBER 1958
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
FRANKEN, RUTILIO LEONARDO;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 01 AUGUST 1953
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
DUARTE CORDEIRO, JILBERT;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 23 APRIL 1975
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
DE MEY, VENANCIO ESTEBAN;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 01 APRIL 1936
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
BOUWMAN, SANDRO GABRIEL FREDERIK;
   
Born in   THE NETHERLANDS, AMSTERDAM on 28 OCTOBER 1976
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
TURMERO RODRIGUEZ, PEDRO HORACIO;
   
Born in   VENEZUELA, MATURIN on 05 JANUARY 1972
Nationality   VENEZUELAN
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
VISHCO MONTALEZA, JOSE MIGUEL;
   
Born in   ECUADOR, CUENCA on 08 OCTOBER 1971
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
RAFAEL, RAYMOND MARTINUS;
   
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 05 OCTOBER 1967
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
VELDHUIS-LEIJDEKKERS, YVONNE MARIA;
   
Born in   THE NETHERLANDS, ARNHEM on 28 DECEMBER 1965
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
RODGERS ACOSTA, GRISELIDYS;
   
Born in   DOMINICAN REPUBLIC on 11 FEBRUARY 1988
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR WITH RESTRICTED VOTE
Effective   31 DECEMBER 1969
Authority   UNKNOWN
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 05, 2012, 09:39:03 PM
Yep, that's what I got too Klaas.

Some of those people weren't part of the company before they were born!   ::snowmanlaugh::

 ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

They knew we'd be checking...

Welcome to Aruba and transparency and all that garbage!   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 05, 2012, 09:39:57 PM
Yep, that's what I got too Klaas.

Some of those people weren't part of the company before they were born!   ::snowmanlaugh::

 ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

They knew we'd be checking...

Welcome to Aruba and transparency and all that garbage!   ::monkeywine2::

Self edit   :smt114


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on December 05, 2012, 09:50:05 PM
respectfully   ::snipping2::

AND, HERE SHE COMES....... TO SAVE THE DAY..........!


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I LOVE SuperMonkey!!!!!   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 06, 2012, 02:09:56 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 06, 2012, 05:07:42 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Lifesong on December 06, 2012, 09:44:17 PM
.... an off topic post to my monkey friends

I just wanted to thank everyone this week for the responses in support. I know that I flew off the handle a bit and I GREATLY regret causing Klaas another major headache! We don't nearly express enough our gratitude for the tireless effort she has put in her totally VOLUNTARY job here. It is quite remarkable and we all owe her a debt of gratitude!

I've  had a week off here since Thanksgiving that allowed me to spend some extra time catching up and reflecting a bit of where we have been since 2005 and where we might be heading in pursuing justice for Natalee. This forum has always been the one place where I truly believe we can make a difference. I kind of think we are at a time in which we can rejuvenate some positive energy to start getting some answers in the Dr Phil case. I hope we can all come back together to make it happen!



ITA wreck!

I don't know how she does it, but she does!  She's superhuman.

And I appreciate ALL that she does here more than I could ever put into words.

THANK YOU KLAAS!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyHeart::




Klaas and The Amazing Mods set the standard.

Thank you!
 ::DancingSantaMonkey1::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Lifesong on December 06, 2012, 09:54:25 PM

None of the people involved in this case could lie straight in bed they are so crooked.

Nasty people on a nasty island.

 ::justice2NJ::


This post nominated for 2012 Post of the Year.  Perfect summary and a line I hope to borrow.   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 06, 2012, 11:42:52 PM
.... an off topic post to my monkey friends

I just wanted to thank everyone this week for the responses in support. I know that I flew off the handle a bit and I GREATLY regret causing Klaas another major headache! We don't nearly express enough our gratitude for the tireless effort she has put in her totally VOLUNTARY job here. It is quite remarkable and we all owe her a debt of gratitude!

I've  had a week off here since Thanksgiving that allowed me to spend some extra time catching up and reflecting a bit of where we have been since 2005 and where we might be heading in pursuing justice for Natalee. This forum has always been the one place where I truly believe we can make a difference. I kind of think we are at a time in which we can rejuvenate some positive energy to start getting some answers in the Dr Phil case. I hope we can all come back together to make it happen!



ITA wreck!

I don't know how she does it, but she does!  She's superhuman.

And I appreciate ALL that she does here more than I could ever put into words.

THANK YOU KLAAS!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyHeart::




Klaas and The Amazing Mods set the standard.

Thank you!
 ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Absolutely, they're THE BEST!   ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 06, 2012, 11:47:06 PM

None of the people involved in this case could lie straight in bed they are so crooked.

Nasty people on a nasty island.

 ::justice2NJ::


This post nominated for 2012 Post of the Year.  Perfect summary and a line I hope to borrow.   ::MonkeyWink::



I agree Lifesong, truer words were never spoken!  ::MonkeyCool::

So glad to see your posts tonight!  Hope all is well!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 07, 2012, 01:33:33 AM

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!

::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Tibrogargan on December 07, 2012, 07:29:03 PM

None of the people involved in this case could lie straight in bed they are so crooked.

Nasty people on a nasty island.

 ::justice2NJ::


This post nominated for 2012 Post of the Year.  Perfect summary and a line I hope to borrow.   ::MonkeyWink::



Thank you Lifesong.  You are welcome to use at any time.  I was trying to be polite too   ::MonkeyWink::

So nice to see you posting again.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 08, 2012, 09:55:43 PM
Tourist has their IPhone stolen at the beach, they track it with GPS...their phone is found and the guy that has it is a bodyguard of Aruban Minister of Tourism, Transportation and Labour Otmar Oduber.  Looks like he may have tried to commit suicide later in his cell, if I understand correctly...I think maybe by trying to hang himself with his own clothes.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/57028-sospechoso-gara-cu-iphone-horta-a-purba-mata-curpa-den-cel-despues

Papiamentu translation:

sospechoso grab cu iphone steal owing to try kill curpa in cel after

saturday, 08 december 2012 11:10

police they owing to wordo notifica cu two amigo tourist was near of lama y at dado instant they pertenencianan owing to wordo steal. after of owing to succeed of recupera the pañanan bek the celular not was tey. here is deal of one iphone. the caso here owing to happen in careda of 4or happen of marduga. the iphone have one systema of gps tracking cu owing to wordo using for busca the telephone. one buskeda of police y cu yudanza of the person cu owing to lose the telephone owing to succeed for see the movecion of the telephone in the area of eagle beach. owing to follow busca y owing to come come across cu one car cu not was have nothing of haber. owing to follow busca y owing to constata cu have movecion again. the movecion was in the area of alhambra direccion tamarijn. at once owing to send patruyanan strandby for car cu can happen. owing to come stop one car yaris blanco v-1783 maneha for he deo fluonia come across. police owing to pidie for descend for of car pendiente more patrol for arrive at the sitio. at arrival owing to hinke in car but in the yaris not owing to come across cu the telephone. so self the señalnan is indica cu the telephone is in the area. the sospechoso owing to ask police for go urine y in the proceso probably here past owing to throw the telephone throw in car of police. owing to come achieve this also in the car of police. now the sospechoso is deteni pendiente investigacion. have to go saca afor where past owing to achieve the telephone y the motibo cu the was in his posicion mirando cu is algo procedente of ladronicia. informacion is tell also cu in oranan of morning at keep of shaba caminda the was close past owing to try kill curpa in cel. the will owing to using his same cloths for her attempt. ambulance owing to wordo calling at once y so owing to hibe hospital also. con earnest his situation is do not conoci. esnan cu owing to lose they telephone owing to succeed achieve this bek. the software of gps owing to play one rol important for succeed achieve bek the telephone cu owing to being steal.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2012.dec.08.deofluonia.roboiphone%20(8).jpg)

http://www.boletinextra.com/bodyguard-di-minister-otmar-oduber-deo-fluonia-deteni-pa-atraca-y-horta-i-phone-di-turista-na-radisson/

Papiamentu translation:

bodyguard of minister otmar oduber, deo fluonia deteni for atraca y steal i-phone of tourist at radisson

written by bulletin on december 8, 2012.

posted in local i

n hour of 4.or of marduga alarma is wordo beat for one atraco upstairs beach fast of radisson hotel. here according the tursita two man owing to sorprese, fight cune y less his i-pone y actuate of the sitio. the tourist owing to splica police cu the have gps upstairs the telephone y cu the can waak where the telephone is actuate. owing to constata cu the telephone owing to actuate of radisson for bay staciona fast of la cabana hotel, at beach of eagle. police owing to arrive eynan y is come across cu one yaris blanco y a is march at leg, that is resulta cu is the bodyguard of otmar oduber. police not can owing to saca none conlcucion left, mirando cu the was only cananando. djey owing to follow the pista of gps. the gps owing to leave of beach of eagle y owing to bay bao of kill at costa linda. police owing to bay also in vicindario y is go back come across cu the car v-wagen blanco. police owing to stay vigila the gps y owing to waak the gps is actuate bay direccion fatum. eynan police owing to dicidi of stop the car cu deo flunia at stuur. owing to bahe abao y owing to listra his car. had two car of police at sitio. while cu police is listra the car, in one rub of eye, ela march bay at car of police y throw the telephone in car of police. djey police owing to place sit in the another car of police. police owing to dicidi of core cu the yaris blanco for waak kico the gps is haci y the gps not owing to actuate. owing to core cu the car of police where deo is sit, but niether owing to actuate. hour owing to core cu the another car of police, the gps owing to actuate, then he in one rub of eye, owing to throw the telephone in car of police. was motibo sufficient for detene y hibe keep of police for so the give cuenta of the atraco y hortamento of telephone celular on tourist. much will stay babauca cu is the hand of more right of minister otmar oduber, cu is maneha we turism, is envlovi in semehante acto brutal contra turism. much will think cu the modus operandi here will do not new y cu the self ‘security’ here cu is draai exactly rond of seguridad will can have enough time end in the business here of steal tourist at beach. aparte cu the have his own business where the have contract at santa rose where some day happen owing to haye in one bringamento cu monchi el’a work also enough time directamente because; security at hotelnan. investigacion will have to determina exactly is kico el’a haci, but owing to stay encarcela for because; sospechoso. come across

(http://www.boletinextra.com/wp-content/uploads/deo.jpg?bb7ee4)

(http://www.boletinextra.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_3274.jpg?bb7ee4)

http://www.awe24.com/20121208/12790/Polis_a_detene_bodyguard_di_minister_di_turismo_como_sospechoso_di_ladronicia

Papiamentu translation:

police owing to detene bodyguard of minister of turism because; sospechoso of ladronicia at turistanan

17 hora happen come across, 8 of december 2012 04:57

seccion: incidente

saturday madruga owing to enter informe of cu one atraco will did take lugar at the beach fast of one of the hi-rise hotelnan at palm beach, at once owing to dirigi one patrol at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol come compronde cu here do not deal of one atraco but more bien one caso of ladronicia while the victimanan was swim in water one or more sospechoso owing to happen y owing to bay cu the i-phone. thanks at the sistema of tracking device inclui the instala on the telephone can owing to follow his movecionnan. via the sistema owing to succeed notice cu the sospechoso owing to actuate bay for eagle beach y was canando one rato on the beach. eynan owing to notice unicamente one vwagen cu one another car in cual was have one are of person. but after owing to notice cu the i-phone owing to actuate bay more pazuid y after owing to notice cu ela leave follow bay south direccion tamarijn. police owing to notice cu the unique car cu was on the caminda ey at the momentonan ey was the v-wagen toyota yaris blanco v1783. police owing to bay y owing to succeed pare east of the lusnan of trafico pazuid of sun plaza. they owing to descend the chofer y owing to pidie for her stay stop fast the patrol while they're throw one view in the car, one dado instant the sospechoso owing to actuate bay y owing to leun at the near of pasajero of the patrol. they not owing to succeed achieve nothing in the car after they owing to listra the sospechoso but not owing to succeed achieve the i-phone. at the momentonan ey alaga the vwagen strike one buelta for see if the is actuate but this owing to stay stop at the sitio ey self. hour cu some agent owing to bay enter they car they owing to come achieve the telephone on one sienta of one of the patruyanan. police owing to dicidi of take away the sospechos at keep of poli.

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 08, 2012, 10:59:25 PM
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/deonarine-fluonia/15/96/535

Deonarine fluonia
Owner, maximum protection services aruba
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https://www.facebook.com/fluonia

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Deonarine Fluonia

C.S.I. .Squad aruba
Corporate Chief of Security · Paradera, Aruba · Jul 2010 to present
Personal protection

Texas A&M Tech University
Class of 1990

We provide highly skilled and trained security professionals for Governments,  Educational Institutes, Events, Commercial, and private property. Whether your security concerns are in managing access, maintaining your companies Security, handling t  Scuba diving, Mountain biking, Kyokushin Karate, practical shooting, skydiving, trapshooting, Defenseshooting, and more
Lives in Paradera, Aruba
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"committed" and "disciplined" not spelled correctly...huge red flag?   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyReindeer::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 08, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
I knew I remembered him from somewhere...he's FB friends with Richard Forester (just one of his many Aruban FB friends).  For anyone who didn't follow the case, Richard claimed to be Robyn Gardner's boyfriend when she went missing in Aruba in August 2011.





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2012, 11:51:52 PM
Adding to the "huge red flag"...
FWIW, also it's not "chauffers", it would be chauffeurs.   ::MonkeyReindeer::

"+ Security Chauffers & Vehicles"





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 08, 2012, 11:52:58 PM
I knew I remembered him from somewhere...he's FB friends with Richard Forester (just one of his many Aruban FB friends).  For anyone who didn't follow the case, Richard claimed to be Robyn Gardner's boyfriend when she went missing in Aruba in August 2011.






 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 09, 2012, 12:11:48 AM
http://www.wayn.com/profiles/grandiydiki (http://www.wayn.com/profiles/grandiydiki)

Hi, my name is Deonarine Fluonia. I'm a 42 year-old Aruban male, currently in Paradera, Aruba. I have 8 friends around the world.

https://twitter.com/DEOBODYGUARD
 (https://twitter.com/DEOBODYGUARD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKxyPjuxiuU

 Uploaded on May 8, 2007

GOOD DAY MY NAME IS FLUONIA DEONARINE IAM GRANDMASTER IN I.P.S.C ARUBA WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE WORLD SHOOT COMMING UP IN 2008, THATS WHY IAM LOOKING FOR SOME SERIOUS PEOPLE TO SPONSER ME TO MAKE MAY DREAM COME TRUED, IF YOU INTERESTED IN SPONSER ME TRANSFER MONEY TO THIS ACCOUNT ARUBA BANK 21152620000101501 AND IF YOU ARE A COMPANY SEND ME YOUR LOGO TO DISPLAYED ON MY UNIFORM IN THE WORLD SHOOT THANK YOU

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 09, 2012, 12:14:59 AM
This guy is all over the place and he's as "dirty" as they come.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 12:17:46 AM
This guy is all over the place and he's as "dirty" as they come.

I agree.  Looks like he spent some time in New York (2005?), and looks like he bounces back and forth between Aruba and Curacao fairly regularly from what I can tell.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 12:30:14 AM
The opposition is eating this up...   ::snowmanlaugh::

http://www.boletinextra.com/deo-fluonia-kier-a-comete-suicidio-den-cel/

Papiamentu translation:

deo fluonia wanted owing to comete suicidio in cel

written by bulletin on december 8, 2012.

posted in local one another website of news owing to publica cu deo fluonia, after of owing to wordo deteni, bao suspicion of atraco y hortamento of celular of tourist, wanted owing to comete suicidio in cel of keep of police. probably the news here will owing to shock his person, that not owing to wait for never of will wordo grab. after cu owing to detene deo fluonia y cu his potret owing to leave upstairs webiste, have more person owing to calling tell cu they're reconce of owing to steal they cel serca of beach. do not conoci if they will bay entrega one denuncia also contra his person. mature is stay cu the is hand right of otmar oduber, that is the titular maximo of turism. the is casi incomprendibel cu one person cu is hand right of minister, bodyguard, amigo, self is atraca tourist. hour el’a stay detecta in the acto of suicidio, el’a wordo help at once by of polisnan attentive.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 12:35:42 AM
I'll have to find it again but I read in the comments earlier something about him being the son of a cop...and that seems to ring a bell from when I looked at him before but I haven't found anything yet.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 12:40:39 AM
https://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=41700

Sunday, December 09, 2012 01:30

 
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 06 JULY 2010 under serial number 39908.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
C.S.I. (CORPORATE SECURITY INTERNATIONAL) - SQUAD ARUBA BODYGUARDS & CONSULTAN

 
Business address   PAVILLA 7-A, PARADERA
Legal form   SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company   C.S.I. (CORPORATE SECURITY INTERNATIONAL) - SQUAD ARUBA BODYGUARDS & CONSULTANCY
Date of commencement   10 JULY 2010
    
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS
FLUONIA, DEONARINE THEOFANNIS;
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 07 SEPTEMBER 1970
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   OWNER
Effective   06 JULY 2010
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
1.HET VERLENEN VAN DIENSTEN OP HET GEBIED VAN BEVEILIGING EN BEWAKING DOOR MIDDEL VAN HET LEVEREN VAN BEWAKERS, ZOWEL OP POST ALS IN EEN SURVEILLANCE- SCHEMA, HET LEVEREN VAN PORTIERSDIENSTEN, HET LEVEREN VAN BEGELEIDING VOOR ZWAAR EN WAARDEVOL TRANSPORT OVER DE WEGEN, HET LEVEREN VAN SCHOONMAAKSTER VOOR SCHADEGEVOELIGE PLAATSEN OF RUIMTEN, HET LEVEREN VAN DIENSTEN OP HET GEBIED VAN GELD EN WAARDEVOL GOEDEREN TRANSPORT;
2 . HET BEGELEIDEN, BEWAKEN EN IN HET ALGEMEEN HET OPTREDEN ALS LIJFWACHT VAN PARTICULIERE PERSONEN OF GROEPEN VAN PERSONEN;
3. HET VERZORGEN VAN OPLEIDINGEN EN TRAININGEN OP HET GEBIED VAN BEVEILIGING EN HET GEVEN VAN EERSTE HULP TRAINING . 4. HET GEVEN VAN ADVIEZEN EN VOORLICHTING AAN PARTICULIEREN, OVERHEIDSINSTANTIES, BANKEN EN HOTELS OMTRENT BEVEILIGINGSMETHODEN TEGEN ONGELUKKEN, BRAND, INBRAAK, STRAATROVERIJ EN LICHAMELIJKE GEWELD.

Google translation:

OBJECTIVE (S) OF THE COMPANY
1.THE PROVIDE SERVICES IN THE FIELD OF SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE THROUGH THE PROVISION OF GUARDS, BOTH TO POST AS A SURVEILLANCE-SCHEDULE, PROVIDE DOOR SERVICES, THE PROVISION OF GUIDANCE FOR HEAVY AND INVALUABLE TRANSPORT ON THE ROADS, THE PROVIDE CLEANER FOR DAMAGE SENSITIVE SITES OR SPACES, THE PROVISION OF SERVICES IN THE FIELD OF MONEY AND VALUABLE GOODS TRANSPORT;
2. GUIDING, MONITORING AND GENERALLY ACTING AS BODYGUARD TO PRIVATE PERSONS OR GROUPS OF PERSONS;
3. THE CARE OF EDUCATION AND TRAINING IN THE FIELD OF SECURITY AND GIVING FIRST AID TRAINING. 4. PROVIDING ADVICE AND INFORMATION TO INDIVIDUALS, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, BANKS AND HOTELS ON PROTECTION METHODS AGAINST ACCIDENTS, FIRE, BURGLARY, STRAATROVERIJ AND PHYSICAL VIOLENCE.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Magnolia on December 09, 2012, 01:22:58 AM
I am just wondering why on earth a Minister of Tourism on a small island would
need a body guard. ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 01:37:27 AM
Can't really understand all of this even with a translation...but I think they could be saying he is the child of a police?



http://www.boletinextra.com/bodyguard-di-minister-otmar-oduber-deo-fluonia-deteni-pa-atraca-y-horta-i-phone-di-turista-na-radisson/#comment-10929

Papiamentu translation:

hahaha family peanut!!! december 8, 2012 at 12:09 pm | # this is yui of police conosi in people because; ‘peanut!!!’ father police degra time naya make complete of pantomina contra suseniora, djei his yui with have minderwardigheid complex become police djey reshershe the also same tiro, abusa of mohe and comete pantomina awo is the deo, much tristo, but always ful the family tawatin one ko of ape with they, one breed stranio, ful savaneta hania they as one style of alien at aruba, they're conosi because; peanut for of ania they 70, hendenan as one bit mongool in district. peanut diminutive become big become resheshri strike steroids, play rol but mental, much complex, complica complete of onzekerheid come across, become pelon dress toupe walk body swell, mane pipopak, but already much tristo for see his makakeria!!!! mane dutch they of nu komt de aap uit de mouw!!! pabien at family peaaaaannnuuuutttt!!!!!!! the mongoloid they of savanetaaaaaa


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 01:47:33 AM
Another Facebook....

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004452392007

Deonarine Fluonia (Diploguard)

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 02:16:39 AM
I am just wondering why on earth a Minister of Tourism on a small island would
need a body guard. ::ElfMonkey::

Maybe because they're "corrupt as hell"?   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 02:33:07 AM
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Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 09, 2012, 07:04:10 AM
I have been away, not by choice, but by necessity. I'm very close to achieving a very BIG goal, but that darn world language set me back a few months. I will let you all know once I get the letter. Natalee Holloway & all of you Monkey's inspired this monkey to take matters into his own hands, in order to create change where he could. I do this, not only for myself, but also to help carry on Natalee Holloway's compassion for others. My contributions have already created change in the state of Washington. Obviously solely not my contribution, but I worked tirelessly for what I believe is right in terms of choice and equality, which also helped the state of Washington have an 81% voter turnout. Natalee Holloway helped me finally choose to do what my passion has always been, which is helping to create change where I think it needs to occur.

I will always be thankful, that after a few posts, I was welcomed into a very special group of people(monkeys). Randomly looking up something on Natalee Holloway, many years ago, brought me to this place that I could never have imagined. Natalee Holloway's door on the planet earth may have closed, but by doing so, she opened a million other doors for people who will carry her memory on for years to come. Let me emphasize, her door on earth closed, but a very special door opened to the gates of Heaven where her compassion can be better served to touch humanity as a whole. I believe, because I'm living proof of that touch. May we continue to open the door that was closed on her, by touching others lives, so their doors open up. Goodnight & God Bless!

KTF
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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY & STEPHANY FLORES

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH



 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 09, 2012, 09:44:57 AM
Excellent post KTF


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 10:33:15 AM
Another Facebook....

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004452392007

Deonarine Fluonia (Diploguard)

 ::snipping2::


And another one...   ::MonkeyHaHa::

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 10:36:01 AM
Excellent post KTF

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2012, 10:43:42 AM

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::
           ::bee::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 09, 2012, 04:18:16 PM
He has this one too.  I don't think you posted it yet:

http://wwb.amigate.com/people_card.php?mode=people_card&p_id=415981 (http://wwb.amigate.com/people_card.php?mode=people_card&p_id=415981)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 09, 2012, 05:26:24 PM
Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 01:12:14 AM
http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=28330

AHATA asks Government to implement three point strategy to address crime wave.
Posted by Aruba Daily on December 10th, 2012

Oranjestad – December 8 2012 - The President of the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Assocaition, James Hepple, today expressed horror at the report of the armed robbery of Kay’s Jewellery store, Paseo Herencia, which took place on Thursday December 6 in front of a number of visitors as well as a spate of other crimes committed in the past few days.
 
“This is the third major incident in the recent past in the Palm Beach area” he said “and the situation just seems to be getting worse”
 
Mr. Hepple explained that AHATA, ATSA and ATIA have been holding an ever increasing number of meetings in the recent past with the Government to express their concern with the escalation in crime. “We have met with the Prime Minister, The Minister of Justice, The Minister of Tourism and, on a regular basis, with the Commissioner of Police to discuss these matters. Whilst we acknowledge the situation is complex we believe there are three key strategies which should be pursued” he said.
 
First, the Government needs to devote more resources to its police force, especially to its detectives, to help them further increase the number of arrests.
 
Second, the Government needs to strengthen the control of our borders as it is thought that a significant number of recent crimes have been committed by nonresidents from neighboring countries.
 
And third, and perhaps most importantly, the judiciary needs to institute much heavier penalties for those habitual criminals who are threatening our nation way of life.
 ::snipping2::
“This increase in crime clearly affects every Aruban. Every Aruban should feel safe in their homes and on our streets. It is a national crisis and has to be solved as quickly as possible. It is not just about tourism” said the AHATA President.
 
“But at the same time” he continued “it is important to remember that tourism is virtually all Aruba has to support the jobs of our people and to generate the income we need. More than three out of every four jobs depends upon the spending of our visitors. With the closure of the refinery no other country in the world is as dependent upon tourism as is Aruba. We are under attack by these criminal elements and the Government has to understand this is an attack on our national security. Without tourism Aruba cannot survive. We need to get these criminals off the street before we lose our way of life.”
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 10, 2012, 01:20:15 AM
I see that grace-land has already posted about this while I was waiting for the nightly timewarp to be over.  But since I went to the trouble to snip and save I'm posting it. 

 ::ElfMonkey::

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/

12/10/2012 Awe Mainta

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 10, 2012, 01:24:22 AM
I liked the "it is not just about tourism" part... 

Let's see how long he lasts.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 10, 2012, 01:26:05 AM
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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2012, 07:49:43 AM
I liked the "it is not just about tourism" part... 

Let's see how long he lasts.   ::MonkeyWink::

 ::santawink::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:04:42 AM
I liked the "it is not just about tourism" part... 

Let's see how long he lasts.   ::MonkeyWink::

My post got lost in cyber space during the timewrap!  ::ElfMonkey::

Neither he nor Aruba will last long if the economy and crime don't improve...  "Without tourism Aruba cannot survive."   ::hohohosanta::
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:10:13 AM
Video at link (in Spanish) Panorama TV

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2012/12_december/10/binnenland/joran_van_der_sloot_betaalde_voor_lagere_straf.xml

Google translation

RTL News | December 10, 2012, 07:15
Van der Sloot: I tried to bribe judges

Joran van der Sloot has a letter to a Peruvian television station in which he admits that he sent through his lawyer tried to bribe the judges. He would have paid $ 75,000 in exchange for a low sentence. That he was not finally.

Peruvian media received a long letter from Van der Sloot. Sources confirm to RTL News that the letter indeed Van der Sloot. In the letter he says that he never had a fair trial. Van der Sloot was in Peru sentenced to 28 years in prison for the murder of Stephany Flores.

His former lawyer Jimenez would give him prior to the lawsuit have agreed that after five years, would be released if he would confess and $ 75,000 to the judges would give. That he has done in his own words, "because he had confidence in Jimenez '. "With open mouth in astonishment," he heard the verdict, he says in his letter. He got 28 years jail.
 
Lawyer holding money
Van der Sloot says in his letter that Jimenez him half the money wanted to return, but the Dutchman has the lawyer angrily put aside. Van der Sloot says he has received $ 75,000 from the American Mary Hamer, who helps him. They would have copies that must prove that the money actually paid to Jimenez.
 
Van der Sloot is that he never had a fair trial. He wants the case re-done. He says in the letter that "the downside for the parents and friends of Stephany is that the matter will receive renewed attention. On the other hand, according to Van der Sloot finally get clarity. "That would be able to heal their wounds. I've never been able to explain what exactly happened that day and why. I have been in the process never asked a question."
 
In the letter, Van der Sloot also that he has even contemplated suicide. He was given the opportunity to do so on a silver platter handed.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: cadillac on December 10, 2012, 11:34:38 AM
Well, golly gee...

He never had a chance to explain what happened and why?  Yea right - just like he never had a chance to explain what happened to Natalee, either.

What a liar - he wouldn't know the truth on anything.  Just a liar and a murderer.

What is keeping him from committing suicide?  Who would save him from doing that?   Doesn't look like Mommie Dearest is ...

Just trying to lie, cheat and steal his way out of trouble again.  Daddy just didn't give him the final lesson on that, now did he?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:41:16 AM
http://www.camilleri.nl/2012/12/omkoopschandaal-rond-joran-van-der-sloot/

Google translation

Bribery Scandal around Joran van der Sloot
December 10, 2012 |

Joran van der Sloot during his trial in Peru tried to bribe the judges. He paid $ 75,000 to his lawyer, who promised that judges him up to 15 years in prison could give. Eventually, the lawyer himself $ 69,000 and Van der Sloot was sentenced to 28 years in prison for the murder of Stephany Flores. Van der Sloot writes in a letter to two counselors in the Netherlands and an American woman who supports him. The letter is in the hands of the Peruvian TV station Panorama TV. He writes that he never had a fair trial and that the case would be re-treated.
 
Van der Sloot's lawyer in the trial, Jimenez, advised him to plead guilty and $ 75,000 to the judges to give. That money borrowed Van der Sloot of the American woman. "Jimenez said that 15 years in prison, the maximum would be and that I would be released after five years," writes Van der Sloot. "He said I behaved well even after 3 years already could be released." Van der Sloot heard from other prisoners that judges are indeed to buy. Shortly thereafter he has the money to transfer to Jimenez. "I trusted him," writes Van der Sloot.
 
In the letter he writes about his surprise when he was 28 years cell. "I wish I had a copy of the movie with my expression." Jimenez, a day later along came and suggested that the money between them. Subsequently, Van der Sloot's lawyer angrily dismissed. The letter is not clear whether Jimenez wanted to push back the money itself or that it failed to pay the judges. Van der Sloot hoped that enough reason to hear the case again to do. According to him, the American woman copies of the $ 75,000 still. He understands that a new case is painful for the family and friends of Stephanie Flores, but according to him it is the only way to tell what exactly happened and why. "During the process, I have no question," he writes. "I ask only for a fair trial."
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:48:04 AM
Brief 1 
http://www.camilleri.nl/2012/12/omkoopschandaal-rond-joran-van-der-sloot/

Bribery Scandal around Joran van der Sloot
December 10, 2012 |

BRIEF 1
Dear Max, Aldo and Mary,

Here is a summary of what occurred to me from the time I crossed the Peruvian border into Chilli up to the moment I was expelled, sent back to Peru and interrogated. I hope it will help Max and Aldo in fighting my human rights case and getting me a new trail. Please feel free to use any or all of the information I provide as you see fit. It is all 100% true. Three days after leaving hotel TAC in Lima my passport was stamped and I crossed the Peruvian border into Chilli. I was exhausted from the trip by car and spent the night at a hostle just over the border. The next day I took a flight to Santiago the Capitol of Chilli. I spent the night at a friends house and the next morning when I woke up my picture was in all the newspapers, not wanting to bring my friend any problems I decided to leave. I took a cab to Vino del Mar because I know someone who lives there and thought that he would be able to help me. I had no phone so once I got to Vino del Mar I found an internet cafe to try and contact my friend. I also spoke to my mother who told me to go to the Dutch Embassy and ask for refuge. I had emails from various journalists wanting to book flights for me to different countries but I really was not interested. I decided to go to the airport and book the first flight to Holland because at that time I felt like it was the right thing to be doing since I am a Dutch citizen and I obviously did not feel safe. Nobody had said anything to me but my picture was in all the newspapers and I even heard them mention me on the radio while in the Taxi. In the cab on the way from Vino del Mar to the airport a car intercepted us and they pulled me out of the car and put me in handcuffs. They took me to this big building and made me wait in a room on the second floor. I guess it must have been someones office because someone had been careless enough as to leave his gun and holster inside the desk I was sitting behind. I think I am to much of a chicken to kill myself but I seriously considered it until i decided to bring it to the attention of the policeman gaurding me outside the door. He came over and I showed him the gun, he was obviously embarrassed and quickly removed it and took it with him. After a couple hours I was called into a big room, with a bunch of people and computers. I asked if I could use one of the computers or at least make a call and they said I could after I gave a statement. I asked for a lawyer and they said I did not need one and they only wanted a statement from me. Not knowing my rights and not wanting to incriminate myself I gave them a statement which they made me retell about five or six times. After what seemed like hours they let me use one of the computers to check my email. My lawyer from Holland had emailed me with the advice to ask for an attorney and try to get on the first flight to Holland which I was planning on doing untill they intercepted me. They asked me what I was doing and I told them I wanted a lawyer and to book my flight to Holland. They became all silent and started whispering then said I could no longer use the computer. I told them again I wanted a lawyer and that is when they said I was not under arrest. I told them that if I was not under arrest I wanted to leave and go to the airport and if they did not they were kidnapping me. They didnt like that I said that and brought me back to the same room on the second floor and locked the door. I banged on the door untill someone opened it and said I wanted to use a phone but all my requests were denied. I got angry and said if I am not under arrest I want to leave and that’s when the gaurd put me back in handcuffs and locked the door. After what seemed like a couple more hours I was brought to a different room and there were about five people there. They said if I co-operate and sign some documents they would make things easy for me. I sat down and read the documents and even though my Spanish was poor to say the least I understood they were documents in which I agree to go back to Peru. I immidiately refused and they got angry and started slamming the desk saying I could go the easy way or the hard way. I said I refuse to sign and if I am not under arrest I want to leave and they told me this was no longer an opcion and that whether or not I sign I am going to Peru. I obviously still refused to sign. The people present signed the document and I was put back in handcuffs and brought to the same room. After a little while a lady came and asked me to reconsider and please sign the documents. She also brought me food a soda and a pack of cigarettes but I still refused. She called the gaurd to come in and take of my handcuffs so I could eat and said they were sending me to Peru with or without my signature on the documents so I could only be helping myself by signing and they could make everything go more smoothly for me and say I co-operated however I still kindly refused. The lady left and after 20 minutes the man I assume was in charge came in slammed the desk again and told me to sign I said no and he promised me he would take me to Peru the hard way. At this point I decided no longer to speak to him or anyone and just to remain silent and he left putting me back in handcuffs and locking the door.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:52:05 AM
http://www.camilleri.nl/2012/12/omkoopschandaal-rond-joran-van-der-sloot/

Bribery Scandal around Joran van der Sloot
December 10, 2012 |

BRIEF 2
Dear Max, Aldo and Mary,
 
After a long time Interpol showed up and said they would be transporting me to Peru. They took me to a car and drove me to a hanger where a small airplane was waiting. To be honest the people from Interpol treated me quite well and only handcuffed me in the plane. The plane flew from Santiago to Arica and they crossed me over the boarder by foot. The Peruvian police immediatly wanted to take custody of me but the people from Interpol did not let them saying their orders were to bring me to Lima. There was some arguing between the police and Interpol but they finally got their way and accompanied me all the way to Lima by car. While crossing the boarder I think I was read my rights even though a translator was not present. The drive from Arica to Lima is very long and we did it without any stops. I was exhausted, tired and hungry by the time we got to Lima. They made a huge media spectical out of Interpol handing me over to the police and paraded me past the cameras several times. I felt completely humiliated. After they had their fun I was put into a dark cell. After what did not seem like a long time they brought me to a different room where cameras were recording, and I immediatly confessed to the police, it is all on film. There was however no translator present and they told me I would have to tell them everything that happened again. I said I wanted a attorney but did not know any in Lima, I asked to call my attorney in Holland but they refused to let me make a phone call. They brought a public defender who advised me not to say anything and to say I was tired and needed to rest. The police were angry but the document was typed up and they brought me to the same dark cell where I finally was able to sleep. The young lady who was a public defender told me she would return the next day. The next day when the police came to get me to start interrogating me their was a different lady who said she was my lawyer. The truth is she was one of the policeman’s girlfriend or family member. I never signed a document agreeing for her to be my lawyer and Max told me public records show she is not even a public defender. She advised me to confess. I did as I was advised but when they wanted me to sign the documents it just all felt wrong so I just scribbled on the pages instead of using my signature. Max can review the documents and he knows about the Lawyer the police called I think he even filled charges against her. Only after all this had happened was I aloud to make a phone call which of course they also filmed. I called my mother who told me not to say anything and that a lawyer was on his way. After the phone call I refused to co-operate any longer and they started treating me badly untill Max finally showed up. Mostly everything that happened after that Max knows. I was transferred to Miguel Castro Castro and my trail was supposed to start. There was no translator so after one or two hearings the presiding judge suspended the hearings. The Embassy claimed it was the Peruvian justice system who should supply a translator not them and apparently there is no system in place for this kind of situation. About 18 monthes passed without anything happening, no questions by the judge, no reconstruction, nothing. I would think that at least a reconstruction should have taken place so that the facts of what took place would be clear but not even that happened.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:56:00 AM
http://www.camilleri.nl/2012/12/omkoopschandaal-rond-joran-van-der-sloot/

Bribery Scandal around Joran van der Sloot
December 10, 2012 |

BRIEF 3
Dear Max, Aldo and Mary,
 
After a discussion I have with Max I decide to change lawyers however at this time I am allready in the “Sala” where they give me the opcion to take my “Conclusion Anticipada”. My lawyer Mr. Jimenez tells me to ask for some time to consider it so I do as advised. Later the same day he comes to visit me and says he knows one of the judges and that he was a student of the Flores family lawyer. He said that my best opcion was to take the conclusion anticipada and that if I could get 75,000$ together he could pay off the judges or at least one of them so that I would get the minimum sentence something which according to him was completely in their right to do if I took the conclusion anticipada. He said if they wanted to they could give me less than the minimum but that I should be happy with 15 years and that I would be free on benifits in 5. (Mary although not aware of this herself should have the records of the money sent to Jimenez with the exact date) I think just one of the abuses I was put through should be enough reason to ask for a new trail. Mr. Jimenez told me that with no priors and good conduct I would be free in 3 years having served 1/3 of my sentence. I asked around in the prison and people told me that it was possible so I pulled all the strings I could and with the help of really only one person I got the money to Mr. Jimenez. I had told Mary the money was for bail which is not true but I was afraid that if I told her the truth she might not help me. Jimenez said he would fix everything and that my 15 year sentence as a maximum was gaurenteed. I trusted him at the time. The next time I appeared in front of the “sala” I took my conclusion anticipada thinking everything was arranged ahead of time, and they suspended the hearing for sentencing. Sometime while all this was happening Jimenez asked me to sign a document that really didn’t say much except that I was happy with his work. I found it a little strange at the time but signed it anyway. According to him everything had gone well. The day of my sentencing came and I was sentenced to 28 years in jail. I wish I had a copy of the video and my expression, I am sure you can find it on YouTube. The same day without being able to talk to my lawyer or anyone else I was transfered to piedra gordas (ancon 1) a jail where a public phone does not even exist. There is no way of communication with the outside world here. Talk about abuse of my rights. So without communication and feeling pretty screwed by Mr. Jimenez who finally showed up the next day. He told me he had 69,000$ left of the money Mary sent him and an email that he may do with the money as he pleases as long as its in my benifit. He told me he was sorry but had the nerve to ask me if I wanted to split the money with him. That’s when I got angry with him and told him to leave. He left after a short argument and apparently sent the money back to Mary. I have not had communication with him since. I know this is a lot of information and a lot to digest. Please keep in mind I am not asking to be set free yet I am only asking for a new trail and for my rights to be respected this time. The only negative thing is bringing the issue to attention once again which could cause suffering for Stephanies family and friends but I truly believe they would be able to heal better from their tragic loss of their daughter if they knew how and more importantly why everything occurred the way it did. Somthing which to the day of today is not clear. During my entire trail which consisted of maybe 5 hearings I was not asked a single question. Besides the fact that my rights have been violated time and time again all I am asking for is a fair trail. I truly believe and think that in the end all parties involved will be able to carry on with their lives in a better way knowing what happened and why


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 03:20:00 PM
http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4496/Buitenland/article/detail/3361254/2012/12/10/Joran-van-der-Sloot-wil-spreekrecht-in-hoger-beroep.dhtml

Google translation

Joran van der Sloot will speak on appeal 
10/12/12, 19:24 - Source: Reuters

Joran van der Sloot will speak at the hearing of his appeal to the Supreme Court of Peru. That said his lawyer Maximo Altez Monday prompted by the ANP. .
 
Van der Sloot, which a prison sentence of 28-year sentence for the murder of Stephany Flores, wants according to his lawyer, "explain what according to him since his arrest in Chile has happened, that he had no explanation for the court to pass, that there is no reconstruction of the events is done and that his then lawyer, Jose Jimenez, has deceived him. "

"He had to believe that he could get reduced sentence of 15 years if he pleaded guilty and that the judges were bribed for $ 75,000 to secure it stelle" said Altez.

 ::snipping2:: Jose Jimenez could not be reached for comment on the allegations of Van der Sloot. Maximo Altez could not say when the appeal is.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 03:38:01 PM
http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2012/12_december/10/binnenland/joran_van_der_sloot_wil_spreekrecht_in_hoger_beroep.xml

Google translation

RTL News | December 10, 2012, 19:50
Joran van der Sloot would talk on appeal

 ::snipping2::
Peruvian media today received a long letter from Van der Sloot. The Dutchman wrote that through his lawyer vormalige Jimenez tried to bribe the judges. Jimenez would give him prior to the lawsuit have agreed that after five years, would be released if he would confess and $ 75,000 to the judges would give. That he has done in his own words, "because he had confidence in Jimenez '. "With open mouth in astonishment," he heard the verdict, he says in his letter. He got 28 years jail.
 
'Lawyer loved money'
 Van der Sloot says in his letter that Jimenez him half the money wanted to return, but the Dutchman has the lawyer angrily put aside. Van der Sloot says he has received $ 75,000 from the American Mary Hamer, who helps him. They would have copies that must prove that the money actually paid to Jimenez.
 
Van der Sloot: Never fair trial
Van der Sloot is that he never had a fair trial, he wrote. He wants the case re-done. He says in the letter that "the downside for the parents and friends of Stephany is that the matter will receive renewed attention.
 
Old lawyer angry
The Dutchman is busy writing a book. According to the former lawyer of Van der Sloot, Jimenez, is that the reason for his statements.

Jimenez is angry with his former client:'' I do not know what he wants, perhaps it is propaganda for the book they are writing. Anyway, what he says makes no sense, "said Jimenez against Heart of the Netherlands.
 
The lawyer says that the 'typical for Joran to these statements':'' He accused his former lawyer also extort $ 80,000 from him to have made. This is something that Joran often does.''


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 10, 2012, 07:10:43 PM
 ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Buckeye on December 10, 2012, 08:39:09 PM
The next day when the police came to get me to start interrogating me

I gave them a statement which they made me retell about five or six times.

cameras were recording, and I immediatly confessed to the police, it is all on film.


I believe he refused to participate in the reconstruction.  Interrogating is asking questions.  He retold his story many times.  He filmed his confession.  Yet, his concern is for the family to find closure???

 they would be able to heal better from their tragic loss of their daughter if they knew how and more importantly why everything occurred the way it did. Somthing which to the day of today is not clear.

During my entire trail which consisted of maybe 5 hearings I was not asked a single question.


Or he did not answer a single question.

Always looking to get off on the technicality.  Good luck with that.  You found the lawyer to do what you wanted (cause you are the smartest one) so now live with your results.

 ::MonkeyShovel:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2012, 08:47:36 PM
Certainly I can't speak for anyone else - however, I'm getting impatient waiting for Joran to be snuff'd out. If he would sit there quietly and enjoy prison and not utter a peep - I probably wouldn't care, however, it's his non-stop cry for attention that has me wanting him deader than his father.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.

 ::hanukkah1::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Tibrogargan on December 10, 2012, 09:01:13 PM
Thank you Grace for all the translations.

All I can say about Joran's ramblings is that they are as full of holes as a Swiss cheese.

Oh and Karma is a wonderful thing.  I love having the opportunity to watch it in action.

 ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on December 10, 2012, 09:10:05 PM
"Gee whiz --- I TRIED to bribe my way out of murder and it backfired on me. That is really unfair.!"

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 10, 2012, 10:17:15 PM
"Gee whiz --- I TRIED to bribe my way out of murder and it backfired on me. That is really unfair.!"

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Typical Joranspeak...   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 10, 2012, 10:36:29 PM
Brief 1 
http://www.camilleri.nl/2012/12/omkoopschandaal-rond-joran-van-der-sloot/

Bribery Scandal around Joran van der Sloot
December 10, 2012 |

BRIEF 1
Dear Max, Aldo and Mary,

Here is a summary of what occurred to me from the time I crossed the Peruvian border into Chilli up to the moment I was expelled, sent back to Peru and interrogated. I hope it will help Max and Aldo in fighting my human rights case and getting me a new trail. Please feel free to use any or all of the information I provide as you see fit. It is all 100% true. Three days after leaving hotel TAC in Lima my passport was stamped and I crossed the Peruvian border into Chilli. I was exhausted from the trip by car and spent the night at a hostle just over the border. The next day I took a flight to Santiago the Capitol of Chilli. I spent the night at a friends house and the next morning when I woke up my picture was in all the newspapers, not wanting to bring my friend any problems I decided to leave. I took a cab to Vino del Mar because I know someone who lives there and thought that he would be able to help me. I had no phone so once I got to Vino del Mar I found an internet cafe to try and contact my friend. I also spoke to my mother who told me to go to the Dutch Embassy and ask for refuge. I had emails from various journalists wanting to book flights for me to different countries but I really was not interested. I decided to go to the airport and book the first flight to Holland because at that time I felt like it was the right thing to be doing since I am a Dutch citizen and I obviously did not feel safe. Nobody had said anything to me but my picture was in all the newspapers and I even heard them mention me on the radio while in the Taxi. In the cab on the way from Vino del Mar to the airport a car intercepted us and they pulled me out of the car and put me in handcuffs. They took me to this big building and made me wait in a room on the second floor. I guess it must have been someones office because someone had been careless enough as to leave his gun and holster inside the desk I was sitting behind. I think I am to much of a chicken to kill myself but I seriously considered it until i decided to bring it to the attention of the policeman gaurding me outside the door. He came over and I showed him the gun, he was obviously embarrassed and quickly removed it and took it with him. After a couple hours I was called into a big room, with a bunch of people and computers. I asked if I could use one of the computers or at least make a call and they said I could after I gave a statement. I asked for a lawyer and they said I did not need one and they only wanted a statement from me. Not knowing my rights and not wanting to incriminate myself I gave them a statement which they made me retell about five or six times. After what seemed like hours they let me use one of the computers to check my email. My lawyer from Holland had emailed me with the advice to ask for an attorney and try to get on the first flight to Holland which I was planning on doing untill they intercepted me. They asked me what I was doing and I told them I wanted a lawyer and to book my flight to Holland. They became all silent and started whispering then said I could no longer use the computer. I told them again I wanted a lawyer and that is when they said I was not under arrest. I told them that if I was not under arrest I wanted to leave and go to the airport and if they did not they were kidnapping me. They didnt like that I said that and brought me back to the same room on the second floor and locked the door. I banged on the door untill someone opened it and said I wanted to use a phone but all my requests were denied. I got angry and said if I am not under arrest I want to leave and that’s when the gaurd put me back in handcuffs and locked the door. After what seemed like a couple more hours I was brought to a different room and there were about five people there. They said if I co-operate and sign some documents they would make things easy for me. I sat down and read the documents and even though my Spanish was poor to say the least I understood they were documents in which I agree to go back to Peru. I immidiately refused and they got angry and started slamming the desk saying I could go the easy way or the hard way. I said I refuse to sign and if I am not under arrest I want to leave and they told me this was no longer an opcion and that whether or not I sign I am going to Peru. I obviously still refused to sign. The people present signed the document and I was put back in handcuffs and brought to the same room. After a little while a lady came and asked me to reconsider and please sign the documents. She also brought me food a soda and a pack of cigarettes but I still refused. She called the gaurd to come in and take of my handcuffs so I could eat and said they were sending me to Peru with or without my signature on the documents so I could only be helping myself by signing and they could make everything go more smoothly for me and say I co-operated however I still kindly refused. The lady left and after 20 minutes the man I assume was in charge came in slammed the desk again and told me to sign I said no and he promised me he would take me to Peru the hard way. At this point I decided no longer to speak to him or anyone and just to remain silent and he left putting me back in handcuffs and locking the door.
 ::snipping2::


He has a cousin in Santiago.

https://www.facebook.com/celestedenboer?fref=pb

Celeste Den Boer Barrientos

College

Universidad Finis Terrae
Law · Providencia, Chile

High School

Liceo Frances

Class of 1998 · Santiago, Chile

Living
   Santiago, Chile
Hometown


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:29:46 PM
Certainly I can't speak for anyone else - however, I'm getting impatient waiting for Joran to be snuff'd out. If he would sit there quietly and enjoy prison and not utter a peep - I probably wouldn't care, however, it's his non-stop cry for attention that has me wanting him deader than his father.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.

 ::hanukkah1::

bbm ^^^ Yeah, and have sweet nightmare dreams of three lovely ladies...

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/dr/hln/www/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/slideshow/2012/01/12/PS_3.jpg)



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:34:29 PM
::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:44:28 PM
Thank you Grace for all the translations.

All I can say about Joran's ramblings is that they are as full of holes as a Swiss cheese.

Oh and Karma is a wonderful thing.  I love having the opportunity to watch it in action.

 ::boxingjoran::

You're welcome, Tibro.  ::MonkeyCool::

And the Supreme Court judges are going to believe him...NOT!   ::boxingjoran::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:49:43 PM
http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2012/joran-zoekt-publiciteit-om-boek/

Google translation

Monday at 15:39
"Joran seeks publicity to book

Joran van der Sloot wants media attention because he is planning a book or movie to bring out. That leaves his former lawyer Jose Jimenez know in our editors.
 
He was responding to allegations of Van der Sloot to his address. The Dutchman wrote in a letter to a Peruvian television that Jimenez him $ 75,000 has asked the judges who handled his case to buy. The lawyer would have promised him that this would ensure that he would receive the minimum sentence for the murder of Stephany Flores.
 
"I do not know what he wants, perhaps it is propaganda for the book they are writing. Anyway, what he says makes no sense, "said Jimenez. The counselor explains that there has long been plans for a book that Joran probably in the United States wants to give. In addition, the Dutchman story also want to film. "Movies, magazines, that's where they get money," he says.
  ::snipping2::

The lawyer claims to be shocked by the allegations. "I am traveling and suddenly I was tonight by many people called about the letter of Joran. I do not know what the audience will find this, but I hope they believe me. I am an honest lawyer and am in my entire career, accused of anything. Put my words on the scale next to a person ... I for ethical reasons will say nothing about. "


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 10, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/3865-police-chief-says-surveillance-has-already-been-increased-in-hotel-area.html

Police Chief says surveillance has already been increased in hotel area
Monday, 10 December 2012 08:38

Saturday during a press conference Police Chief Dolfi Richardson said these past few weeks the police corps has noticed that the hotel areas have become vulnerable, and the force has therefore already increased surveillance here, in addition to the Visibility Team's activities. This has been ongoing for a few months already.

Richardson said police presence has been tripled and there is a plan to minimize the risks for criminal activities in the area. He said although no detentions have taken place in regards to the recent armed robberies on three jewelry shops in Palm Beach, the investigations are ongoing and enough information has to be gathered for an arrest.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 11, 2012, 12:06:44 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/138898-20-extra-agenten-voor-veiliger-toeristenzone

Google translation:

20 additional agents for safer tourist zone         

MONDAY, DECEMBER 10, 2012 9:27

ORANGE CITY - There will be more police in the tourist zone and the camera is the last station for approval within the government. This emerged from the emergency meeting last Saturday between government and police. Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (Ahata) Expresses suspicions that a significant proportion of criminals mainly from neighboring countries, and calls for stricter controls at the border.

by Linda Reijnders

"There are measures taken last Saturday," said the Minister of Tourism, Transport and Labor, Otmar Oduber (AVP). He explains that among other things called Visibility Teams since 2002, in Aruba operational for more security in the tourist area, formerly consisted of one officer and two or three people. Now, a team full of policemen go there. The difference is that they'll all have full authority to carry out an arrest. "That means that there are twenty agents are added to the teams that the tourist zone check. In addition, there is a plan for camera that only has to be approved by FDA (Dutch-Aruban Development, ed), so we quickly with a pilot in the tourist zone to start. "

For that camera reacts James Hepple, director of trade association Ahata and chairman of Aruba Hospitality and Security Foundation, the hotels have a lot invested in additional cameras. "The Hyatt hotel for example $ 100,000 extra cameras purchased and the Marriott there is considerable over. Of course this is due to the events of recent times. The hotels will increase the safety of their guests. Difficult with CCTV by the government is that a camera in a public area may only post when it has no view on private land. This is difficult in the hotel zone where many adjacent to one another, "explains Hepple out. He says that from Ahata the Government continued to insist on strengthening the police force and harsher punishments for criminals.

Strict border control e

Also refers to the trade association to suspicions that a large proportion of criminals from abroad can be taken from the surrounding countries. The stricter limits would have to be monitored to ensure the safety of the Aruban increase, says Ahata. Which those suspicions are based, is not clear. Faction leader René Herde of AVP ruling party said last Saturday in Amigoe that criminals are properly organized locally. The Minister of Justice Arthur Dowers (AVP), has no origin, but about the use of drugs that would play a major role in the criminal. He sees international organized drug trafficking as a major cause of crime. The emergency meeting of Saturday's at least a plan for the month of December came, informs Vanessa Kock, head of the criminal police. "There are clear internal agreements within the police to tackle crime."


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 11, 2012, 12:11:46 AM
Not sure what's going on here with Jossy Mansur, saw a clip a while back about him allegedly owing taxes?

Of course it's a subscriber article...

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

Mansur: declaration against tax goodies
MONDAY, DECEMBER 10, 2012 8:59

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/2012-12-10/2240157_thumb160.jpg)
ORANGE CITY - Jossy Mansur, businessman and include editor of morning newspaper Diario, will declare against officials load data ...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 11, 2012, 12:32:05 AM
If I understand correctly...they're getting married...in Holland.   

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/57158-parlamentario-mr-desiree-croes-y-abogado-mr-benvinda-de-sousa-ta-casa-diaranzon

member of parliament mr desiree croes y advocate mr benvinda de sousa is casa

diaranzon monday, 10 december 2012 23:14

publicamente the two profesionalnan here is saliendo cu another because; pareha. here is deal of mr. desiree croes that is advocate y also acolyte of parliament for her fraccion of avp y advocate mr. benvinda de sousa. for some time end they're in one relacion amoroso. esnan cu conoce owing to see they together because; pareha all caminda at the netherlands but also all caminda at aruba. they owing to arrive so far cu will casa at the netherlands diaranzon 12- 12-2012. famianan of both owing to trip for of aruba for the netherlands for asisti the casamento here of pareha of same sexo. one minister of aruba cu is of visit of trabao at the netherlands will is one of the testigonan. at aruba parehanan of same sexo not can casa y pesey self they owing to opta for haci'e at the netherlands in the season frieu y on one date cu kizas for they're much special.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2012.dec.10.desiree_sousa.JPG)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 11, 2012, 12:51:05 AM
Birthday party?  January 30, 2012

http://csn2011go.com/CSN3Old/index.php/caribbean/aruba-news/item/1294-parlamentario-mr-desiree-croes-a-celebra-su-fecha-natal#

member of parliament mr. desiree croes owing to celebra his date natal
member of parliament mr. desiree croes

monday, jan 30th, 2012 01:18 utc image gallery print email

oranjestad – week happen the member of parliament more new diarubasra. mr. desiree croes owing to celebra his date natal. this did take luga in one circulo familia at home of faction. at instant cu 12’or owing to beat family y some amistad much close cu was present owing to cuminsa canta for her member of parliament y desee much year more of life y for her follow cu the same good work cu past owing to come is haciendo.

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 11, 2012, 12:59:17 AM
http://issuu.com/awemainta/docs/11_dec_2012?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true (http://issuu.com/awemainta/docs/11_dec_2012?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Flight%2Flayout.xml&showFlipBtn=true)

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 11, 2012, 01:25:03 AM
http://bearingpointcaribbean.com/news/onderzoek-integriteit-arubaanse-belastingdienst-klaar/

Research Integrity Aruban Tax Ready

Google translation:

FRIDAY, 23 NOVEMBER 2012

ORANGE CITY - The investigation that the Court has done to the integrity of tax Siad, in the sense that it finished on 7 December to parliament is presented.

The presentation to the Commission fixed States Country Expenditure. The research was conducted using the Dutch Court. When asked recently Siad spokesman Meverly Romano what that has held, she could not answer. "We as staff have not noticed."

The study is the result of last year's leak of confidential tax information of businessman Jossy Mansur, which include morning newspaper Diario possession. This led to the suspension of Management members and an internal investigation. In parliament, in particular the opposition questioned put the impartiality of this study due to the political charge. Especially because it had long been in Siad rumbling since the minister two directors pushed aside for a new management that internal affairs should ask.

States member Juan David Yrausquin early in October 2011 and then the research is not the Court could be done. In March of this year, from a letter of States President Paul Croes (AVP) announced that the Court, assisted by her Dutch colleague, the integrity examination is undertaken. The study would also "emphatically not a person-oriented research 'are.

Information leakage

The confidential tax information concerning correspondence between Jossy Mansur and the Tax. That was partly also published on Facebook by former MEP leader and Prime Minister Nelson Oduber. In the correspondence, dating from February 2011, Mansur asked to settle their tax amounting to one and a half million florins. That request was rejected by the Tax since Mansur them a sum of 20 million owed. Because of this vulnerability, three senior officials of Siad inactive put, on suspicion of leaking the documents.

Politicians denounced the leak last year in government and thus to the IRS. Opposition parties MEP and PDR was also found that there are two sides to sit. On the one hand, officials bound to secrecy, but there are also situations where disclosure of confidential information, such as misconduct (whistleblowing), it may be justified. Last week brought parliamentarian Booshi Wever out that the tax policy seizures would have changed. On instruction of the Minister responsible for Finance would 'be puppets "to the IRS have the task given to certain large businesses do not seize to tax. Also, at a jewelry store a debt of some 12 million florins for no apparent reason reduced to 1.3 million florins, says Weaver. The reason that large companies the spring dance is because under the 'public interest' would fall and that an attachment so the company, employees and Aruba at a disadvantage. The parliamentarian find this unfair, because ordinary citizens have to pay ordinary income tax liability.

Inquiry at the IRS or indeed policy seizures has changed, has so far yielded nothing.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 11, 2012, 02:01:49 AM
I've tried to read Joran's self serving bunch of crap a few times now.  Still haven't made it all the way through it. 

It infuriates me.

Absolutely no regard for the beautiful young woman that he savagely murdered and left to rot in the Hotel Tac, while he got himself out of the country and called his mommy and the best lawyers for help.  That's always been his way out before...

Quote
I decided to go to the airport and book the first flight to Holland because at that time I felt like it was the right thing to be doing since I am a Dutch citizen and I obviously did not feel safe.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 11, 2012, 02:13:14 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/06302010_StephanyMemorial_2.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/stephany_mariaelena.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyandherfatherRicardoFlores.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanysGrave.jpg)


 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 11, 2012, 04:03:20 AM
I keepthefaith that we are all here for the long haul. If Urine doesn't go before any one of us Monkeys happens to be taken home by the Lord, we will keep the candles lit for those who have gone before us and make sure Urine gets his comeuppance when the Lord is ready. I believe!!


JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND STEPHANY FLORES

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH



 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2012, 08:40:01 AM
Good morning camochance!  It's always good to see you, even if it's up in the rafters!     ::MonkeyCool:: ::snowmanlaugh::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2012, 08:41:12 AM
I keepthefaith that we are all here for the long haul. If Urine doesn't go before any one of us Monkeys happens to be taken home by the Lord, we will keep the candles lit for those who have gone before us and make sure Urine gets his comeuppance when the Lord is ready. I believe!!


JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND STEPHANY FLORES

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH



 ::MonkeyAngel::


 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 11, 2012, 08:42:50 AM
I've tried to read Joran's self serving bunch of crap a few times now.  Still haven't made it all the way through it. 

It infuriates me.

Absolutely no regard for the beautiful young woman that he savagely murdered and left to rot in the Hotel Tac, while he got himself out of the country and called his mommy and the best lawyers for help.  That's always been his way out before...

Quote
I decided to go to the airport and book the first flight to Holland because at that time I felt like it was the right thing to be doing since I am a Dutch citizen and I obviously did not feel safe.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::
 

Feel arrogant and entitled much, Joran?!!   ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 11, 2012, 04:24:34 PM
Well, God Forbid that Joran shouldn't feel safe!  ::MonkeyMad::  ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Lifesong on December 11, 2012, 10:41:51 PM

I couldn't read it either, TM.

Joran will now begin the next leg of his media career, that is, telling the "truth" about that night with Stephany -  creating whole new scenarios with each version, taking pleasure from the pain he causes her family.

He's got nothing else.  It's all he knows.

Don't let's feed the beast.



JMO and only MO


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 12, 2012, 12:07:23 AM

I couldn't read it either, TM.

Joran will now begin the next leg of his media career, that is, telling the "truth" about that night with Stephany -  creating whole new scenarios with each version, taking pleasure from the pain he causes her family.

He's got nothing else.  It's all he knows.

Don't let's feed the beast.

JMO and only MO

 ::rhino::

Comments from one of the recent articles in the Dutch news...

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2012/joran-zoekt-publiciteit-om-boek/

Google translation:

Theo Bik
Let this psychopath now finally dead silence.
If anyone deserves no attention
Reply · 3 · Like · Message tracking · Yesterday at 10:28

Wendy Hillenbrand · Peace Borch College
agree with the response below, not a second more attention
Reply · Like · Yesterday at 12:17 · Post follow

Jacquie Sanders
Does he really think there are people who are book / movie to watch / read?! This scumbag just does not get more attention!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 12, 2012, 12:36:46 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 12, 2012, 03:01:04 AM
Wasn't she just beautiful? Thank you, TM.  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 02:08:44 AM
Wasn't she just beautiful? Thank you, TM.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Absolutely CBB, inside and out.   ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 02:15:49 AM
http://www.bnr.nl/programma/juridischezaken/194333-1212/tuchtrechter-tikt-moszkowicz-weer-op-vingers

Google translation:

Disciplinary Moszkowicz tap again on fingers
By Anne-Greet Haars
12 DECEMBER 2012 1:54 P.M. | BNR.NL

Lawyer Bram Moszkowicz was again convicted by the disciplinary court. The Board of Discipline in Amsterdam laid him on Wednesday a warning for insulting judge Marcel van Oosten.

From East was the presiding judge in the trial of PVV leader Geert Wilders. Last year Moszkowicz called him in an interview in The Guardian "spasmodic" and "humorless" and he said that the court "apparently from above" was "stuffed" with assignments.

The lawyer goes too far with those statements, the Board found and declared the complaint by the dean of the Amsterdam Bar Association Germ Kemper founded.

Other case
late October forbade the board Moszkowicz in another disciplinary case the advocatenvak longer exercise . Kemper in that case had complained about the systematic non-compliance with the rules of the profession, including the reporting of cash payments above EUR 15,000. Moszkowicz has appealed against that decision. Whether he insult in the case does, is still unclear. He was not present when the verdict Wednesday.



(Article from October)

http://www.amigoe.com/english/133929-moszkowicz-remains-lawyer-of-alex-mathew-for-the-time-being

Moszkowicz remains lawyer of Alex Mathew for the time being         
TUESDAY, 30 OCTOBER 2012 13:34

ORANJESTAD — The well-known Dutch criminal lawyer Bram Moszkowicz is still the lawyer of Alex Mathew, suspect in the Strea-case on human trafficking practices and money laundering in the former strip club Foxy Lady. His Aruban lawyer John Zara stated this in reply to the news that the disciplinary judge in the Netherlands discharged Moszkowicz from his office.

By our reporter

Alex Laclé

Zara stated before the Amigoe this morning that he heard about the problems his Dutch colleague is facing but isn’t informed of any details. Moszkowicz was disbarred for life today by the Council of Discipline today because he injured the esteem of the Bar, according to the disciplinary board, by accepting thousands of euros on cash money from clients, by not refunding advance payments and for not having a proper administration. Moszkowicz can continue his profession as lawyer while he lodges an appeal against the sentence.

 ::snipping2::

Strea-case

According to the planning, the Strea-case will come up in court on January 16. Witnesses are still to be heard, said lawyer Zara. When asked if he already received all documents from the Public Prosecutor, the lawyer answered cryptically ‘yes and no’. “That’s all I can say.” Earlier on suspect Mathew said he wasn’t given access to all dossiers in his case. This supposedly hinders the preparations for his criminal case in court.

Mathew, his wife Liliana and security guard Michael Levestone are suspected of human trafficking, money laundering, criminal activities, assault and drug trade. He was arrested halfway 2010 and taken into custody for over eighteen months. He has been released ‘under conditions’. Zara stated that his client had to hand in his passport to Justice and is to report every week.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 02:49:32 AM
If I understand correctly...they're getting married...in Holland.   

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/57158-parlamentario-mr-desiree-croes-y-abogado-mr-benvinda-de-sousa-ta-casa-diaranzon

member of parliament mr desiree croes y advocate mr benvinda de sousa is casa

diaranzon monday, 10 december 2012 23:14

publicamente the two profesionalnan here is saliendo cu another because; pareha. here is deal of mr. desiree croes that is advocate y also acolyte of parliament for her fraccion of avp y advocate mr. benvinda de sousa. for some time end they're in one relacion amoroso. esnan cu conoce owing to see they together because; pareha all caminda at the netherlands but also all caminda at aruba. they owing to arrive so far cu will casa at the netherlands diaranzon 12- 12-2012. famianan of both owing to trip for of aruba for the netherlands for asisti the casamento here of pareha of same sexo. one minister of aruba cu is of visit of trabao at the netherlands will is one of the testigonan. at aruba parehanan of same sexo not can casa y pesey self they owing to opta for haci'e at the netherlands in the season frieu y on one date cu kizas for they're much special.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2012.dec.10.desiree_sousa.JPG)

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba

Google translation:

Gay marriage Aruban parliament

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2012 9:12

ORANGE CITY - In Aruba, they can not marry, but in Amsterdam gave ASF parliamentarian Desiree Croes and her partner Benvinda de Sousa today, 12.12.12, ...


http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/57224-parlamentario-desiree-croes-y-sra-benvinda-de-sousa-uni-pa-ley

Papiamentu translation:

member of parliament desiree croes y sra. benvinda de sousa uni for ley

wednesday, 12 december 2012 10:55

as owing to wordo anuncia recientemente cu member of parliament desiree croes will owing to bay casa cu advocate benvinda de sousa today on day 12-12-12 this owing to become realidad. at the netherlands in compania of family, conocirnan y agent of gabinete mike eman the pareha owing to casa for ley. words of much felicidad is the desire for her pareha here.

(resized the photos)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/1212201202-1.jpg)

what's "up" with that chair?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/1212201201-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on December 13, 2012, 02:56:55 AM
TM,
I noticed that chair too.  I thought maybe it was a prank pic at first.  lol


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 03:01:55 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

In brief
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2012 9:12
Murder Suspect Held The detective held this morning in Seroe Blanco a man suspected of murdering Esperanza Amparo Marte (51) in September of this year in Alto Vista. The victim ...
Read more ...

(Link to posts about the murder from September)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.msg1540508#msg1540508

http://www.awe24.com/20121212/12840/Den_un_entrada_judicial_autoridad_a_logra_detene_e_sospechoso_di_e_asesinato_di

in one entrance judicial autoridad owing to succeed detene the sospechoso of the asesinato of one lady at alto vista

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/12840/2_1355354125.jpg)

17 hora happen come across, 12 of december 2012 10:04

seccion: incidente

diaranzon morning autoridad judicial of recherche distrito north acompaña for judge comisario griffier y fiscal owing to haci one entrance judicial at one cas at seroe blanco 68f y owing to detene the sospechoso principal of the caso of the recien asesinato of one lady at alto vista. is deal here of the dominicano "will acevedo silverio" of 30 year that is being sospecha of owing to asesina his ex-suegra. at his cas the oficialnan owing to achieve several evidencia y owing to confisca all esakinan. they owing to bay cu 2 car sientanan of one car y apparently will owing to achieve drugs also the ultimo here not owing to stay confirma. the is being sospecha of owing to kill his mother-in-law cruelmente y owing to bente in one buraco in forest in cercania of the victima his trailer. judge comisario, griffier y fiscal conhuntamente cu boss of recherche of north owing to bay at the trabao of sospechoso also for look at if can achieve more evidencia.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 03:03:23 AM
TM,
I noticed that chair too.  I thought maybe it was a prank pic at first.  lol

I know...it doesn't look right!   ::snowmanlaugh:: ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 03:38:46 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_50.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 13, 2012, 04:15:05 AM
Here's a thought for Wreck, Billb, robots, and Rob..Are there any rivers down in Peru that would compare to the Cahulawassee River? I've always wanted to see South America, and this could pose the perfect opportunity. We could take Urine for a trip that doesn't haven't a return ticket...I kid you all! KTF do something like that? Never.... ::MonkeyHaHa::


::monkeywine2:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 13, 2012, 04:21:59 AM
7986...Hey Klass! Do I get a FREE trip to Peru to snatch Urine out of his prison and take him on a canoeing trip in Peru? I was thinking about letting a few monkeys loose to get to 8000 tonight, but know better than to clutter up Natalee's cage... ::

::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey::
 ::hohohosanta:: ::hohohosanta:: ::hohohosanta::
 ::snowmanlaugh:: ::snowmanlaugh:: ::snowmanlaugh::
 :smt114 :smt114 :smt114
 :smt111 :smt111 :smt111
 :rendeer: :rendeer: :rendeer:
 ::hanukkah1:: ::hanukkah1:: ::hanukkah1::
 ::santawink:: ::santawink:: ::santawink::
 ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1::
 ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on December 13, 2012, 08:14:27 AM
7986...Hey Klass! Do I get a FREE trip to Peru to snatch Urine out of his prison and take him on a canoeing trip in Peru? I was thinking about letting a few monkeys loose to get to 8000 tonight, but know better than to clutter up Natalee's cage... ::

::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey::
 ::hohohosanta:: ::hohohosanta:: ::hohohosanta::
 ::snowmanlaugh:: ::snowmanlaugh:: ::snowmanlaugh::
 :smt114 :smt114 :smt114
 :smt111 :smt111 :smt111
 :rendeer: :rendeer: :rendeer:
 ::hanukkah1:: ::hanukkah1:: ::hanukkah1::
 ::santawink:: ::santawink:: ::santawink::
 ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1::
 ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer::


I would like to invite the IKEA monkey to join us! You think Joran might be a little envious of his warm,snazzy jacket???  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 08:35:45 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/3875-riot-team-holds-action-in-kia-prison-ceases-illegal-goods.html

Riot Team holds action in KIA prison, ceases illegal goods         
Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:12
 
The Riot Team, including the K9 unit ceased cellular phones, tattoo equipment including ink, white weapons, telephone chargers, crack pipes, drugs, and more, during an action in KIA prison this week. In addition to these items, they confiscated about 20 liters of alcoholic beverages.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 08:45:30 PM
26 years old...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.awe24.com/20121213/12855/Polis_investigando_un_caso_na_Chuchubistraat_unda_un_dama_na_estado_a_fayece

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/12855/1_1355446966.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

police investigando one caso at chuchubistraat where one lady pregnant owing to fayece misteriosamente

14 hora happen come across, 13 of december 2012 07:22

seccion: incidente

diahuebs morning early owing to enter informe of cu have one lady pregnant cu do not reacciona y neither is give sign of life, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the ambulance they owing to constata cu of berdad the lady do not give sign of life y owing to ask for doctor come at the cas. at arrival of the patrol they owing to notice the situation y owing to solicita for all instancia concerni present at the sitio. at once owing to close full the area for so not spite the investigacion. doctor nuboer owing to present at the sitio y owing to constata dead of Julitza Theresita B. Helder naci 5 june 1986 at aruba. julitza owing to let behind 2 child one of 4 year y the another of 1 year. the caso here is uno odd y cu is let much question behind already cu the victima was at hospital 3 week happen y after of 3 day owing to being send cas because the not have nothing bad. tuesday night also ambulance owing to bay check the at home but not owing to notice nothing bad. esnan cu conose good is ask about for her cause of his dead y they not can achieve niun contesta. is lamentable cu is bay bury a without know of what ela fayece. at famianan of the victima is bay we more sincero words of condolencia.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 09:18:19 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/english/139287-homo-marriage-of-aruban-parliamentarian

Homo marriage of Aruban parliamentarian         

WEDNESDAY, 12 DECEMBER 2012 15:47

ORANJESTAD — They weren’t allowed to get married on Aruba but in Amsterdam AVP-parliamentarian Desirée Croes and her partner Benvinda de Sousa could say ‘I will’ to one another today, 12-12-12, with Mike de Meza (AVP), Minister of Finance, Utilities and Communication, as one of the witnesses.“It was a fantastic day. I thought it took place at the city hall of Amsterdam but I’m not familiar with the area. The wedding ceremony was exactly at twelve minutes past twelve and everything had gone smoothly”.  Several months ago De Meza’s good friends Croes and De Sousa asked him as witness. He finds it an honor and has no problem that it regards two people of the same sex. It has nothing to do with politics or the party; it’s a personal matter, he emphasized. He said he respects the right of every person and that he opposes every form of discrimination.

Getting married elsewhere

Although the celebration of marriage for two people of the same sex is not possible on Aruba, a married homo couple can register with the register of population on the island. With that recognition homos married in the Netherlands have the same marriage rights as other couples on Aruba, but the wedding ceremony itself must take place in another country, as was done in this case in the Netherlands, or for example on Saba, where a homo couple (an Aruban and a Venezuelan) got married last week Tuesday. The latter was also the first homo marriage in the Caribbean kingdom.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 09:34:49 PM
Tourist has their IPhone stolen at the beach, they track it with GPS...their phone is found and the guy that has it is a bodyguard of Aruban Minister of Tourism, Transportation and Labour Otmar Oduber.  Looks like he may have tried to commit suicide later in his cell, if I understand correctly...I think maybe by trying to hang himself with his own clothes.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/57028-sospechoso-gara-cu-iphone-horta-a-purba-mata-curpa-den-cel-despues

Papiamentu translation:

sospechoso grab cu iphone steal owing to try kill curpa in cel after

saturday, 08 december 2012 11:10

police they owing to wordo notifica cu two amigo tourist was near of lama y at dado instant they pertenencianan owing to wordo steal. after of owing to succeed of recupera the pañanan bek the celular not was tey. here is deal of one iphone. the caso here owing to happen in careda of 4or happen of marduga. the iphone have one systema of gps tracking cu owing to wordo using for busca the telephone. one buskeda of police y cu yudanza of the person cu owing to lose the telephone owing to succeed for see the movecion of the telephone in the area of eagle beach. owing to follow busca y owing to come come across cu one car cu not was have nothing of haber. owing to follow busca y owing to constata cu have movecion again. the movecion was in the area of alhambra direccion tamarijn. at once owing to send patruyanan strandby for car cu can happen. owing to come stop one car yaris blanco v-1783 maneha for he deo fluonia come across. police owing to pidie for descend for of car pendiente more patrol for arrive at the sitio. at arrival owing to hinke in car but in the yaris not owing to come across cu the telephone. so self the señalnan is indica cu the telephone is in the area. the sospechoso owing to ask police for go urine y in the proceso probably here past owing to throw the telephone throw in car of police. owing to come achieve this also in the car of police. now the sospechoso is deteni pendiente investigacion. have to go saca afor where past owing to achieve the telephone y the motibo cu the was in his posicion mirando cu is algo procedente of ladronicia. informacion is tell also cu in oranan of morning at keep of shaba caminda the was close past owing to try kill curpa in cel. the will owing to using his same cloths for her attempt. ambulance owing to wordo calling at once y so owing to hibe hospital also. con earnest his situation is do not conoci. esnan cu owing to lose they telephone owing to succeed achieve this bek. the software of gps owing to play one rol important for succeed achieve bek the telephone cu owing to being steal.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2012.dec.08.deofluonia.roboiphone%20(8).jpg)

http://www.boletinextra.com/bodyguard-di-minister-otmar-oduber-deo-fluonia-deteni-pa-atraca-y-horta-i-phone-di-turista-na-radisson/

Papiamentu translation:

bodyguard of minister otmar oduber, deo fluonia deteni for atraca y steal i-phone of tourist at radisson

written by bulletin on december 8, 2012.

posted in local i

n hour of 4.or of marduga alarma is wordo beat for one atraco upstairs beach fast of radisson hotel. here according the tursita two man owing to sorprese, fight cune y less his i-pone y actuate of the sitio. the tourist owing to splica police cu the have gps upstairs the telephone y cu the can waak where the telephone is actuate. owing to constata cu the telephone owing to actuate of radisson for bay staciona fast of la cabana hotel, at beach of eagle. police owing to arrive eynan y is come across cu one yaris blanco y a is march at leg, that is resulta cu is the bodyguard of otmar oduber. police not can owing to saca none conlcucion left, mirando cu the was only cananando. djey owing to follow the pista of gps. the gps owing to leave of beach of eagle y owing to bay bao of kill at costa linda. police owing to bay also in vicindario y is go back come across cu the car v-wagen blanco. police owing to stay vigila the gps y owing to waak the gps is actuate bay direccion fatum. eynan police owing to dicidi of stop the car cu deo flunia at stuur. owing to bahe abao y owing to listra his car. had two car of police at sitio. while cu police is listra the car, in one rub of eye, ela march bay at car of police y throw the telephone in car of police. djey police owing to place sit in the another car of police. police owing to dicidi of core cu the yaris blanco for waak kico the gps is haci y the gps not owing to actuate. owing to core cu the car of police where deo is sit, but niether owing to actuate. hour owing to core cu the another car of police, the gps owing to actuate, then he in one rub of eye, owing to throw the telephone in car of police. was motibo sufficient for detene y hibe keep of police for so the give cuenta of the atraco y hortamento of telephone celular on tourist. much will stay babauca cu is the hand of more right of minister otmar oduber, cu is maneha we turism, is envlovi in semehante acto brutal contra turism. much will think cu the modus operandi here will do not new y cu the self ‘security’ here cu is draai exactly rond of seguridad will can have enough time end in the business here of steal tourist at beach. aparte cu the have his own business where the have contract at santa rose where some day happen owing to haye in one bringamento cu monchi el’a work also enough time directamente because; security at hotelnan. investigacion will have to determina exactly is kico el’a haci, but owing to stay encarcela for because; sospechoso. come across

(http://www.boletinextra.com/wp-content/uploads/deo.jpg?bb7ee4)

(http://www.boletinextra.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_3274.jpg?bb7ee4)

http://www.awe24.com/20121208/12790/Polis_a_detene_bodyguard_di_minister_di_turismo_como_sospechoso_di_ladronicia

Papiamentu translation:

police owing to detene bodyguard of minister of turism because; sospechoso of ladronicia at turistanan

17 hora happen come across, 8 of december 2012 04:57

seccion: incidente

saturday madruga owing to enter informe of cu one atraco will did take lugar at the beach fast of one of the hi-rise hotelnan at palm beach, at once owing to dirigi one patrol at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol come compronde cu here do not deal of one atraco but more bien one caso of ladronicia while the victimanan was swim in water one or more sospechoso owing to happen y owing to bay cu the i-phone. thanks at the sistema of tracking device inclui the instala on the telephone can owing to follow his movecionnan. via the sistema owing to succeed notice cu the sospechoso owing to actuate bay for eagle beach y was canando one rato on the beach. eynan owing to notice unicamente one vwagen cu one another car in cual was have one are of person. but after owing to notice cu the i-phone owing to actuate bay more pazuid y after owing to notice cu ela leave follow bay south direccion tamarijn. police owing to notice cu the unique car cu was on the caminda ey at the momentonan ey was the v-wagen toyota yaris blanco v1783. police owing to bay y owing to succeed pare east of the lusnan of trafico pazuid of sun plaza. they owing to descend the chofer y owing to pidie for her stay stop fast the patrol while they're throw one view in the car, one dado instant the sospechoso owing to actuate bay y owing to leun at the near of pasajero of the patrol. they not owing to succeed achieve nothing in the car after they owing to listra the sospechoso but not owing to succeed achieve the i-phone. at the momentonan ey alaga the vwagen strike one buelta for see if the is actuate but this owing to stay stop at the sitio ey self. hour cu some agent owing to bay enter they car they owing to come achieve the telephone on one sienta of one of the patruyanan. police owing to dicidi of take away the sospechos at keep of poli.

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/12790/1_1354975400.jpg)
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=10

Google translation:

In brief
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 13, 2012 8:39
Deo longer fixed Deonarine Fluonia, better known as Deo, continues at least until 19 December trapped. His remand was extended Tuesday with eight days in connection with the investigation. He is ...
Read more ...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on December 13, 2012, 10:44:08 PM
7986...Hey Klass! Do I get a FREE trip to Peru to snatch Urine out of his prison and take him on a canoeing trip in Peru? I was thinking about letting a few monkeys loose to get to 8000 tonight, but know better than to clutter up Natalee's cage... ::

::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey::
 ::hohohosanta:: ::hohohosanta:: ::hohohosanta::
 ::snowmanlaugh:: ::snowmanlaugh:: ::snowmanlaugh::
 :smt114 :smt114 :smt114
 :smt111 :smt111 :smt111
 :rendeer: :rendeer: :rendeer:
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 ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::DancingSantaMonkey1::
 ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer::


I would like to invite the IKEA monkey to join us! You think Joran might be a little envious of his warm,snazzy jacket???  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/ikea-monkey-instagram-220.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 13, 2012, 11:38:33 PM
That's too funny, wreck!   ::snowmanlaugh:: ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 14, 2012, 02:09:35 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 15, 2012, 03:28:08 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on December 15, 2012, 06:45:40 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 15, 2012, 11:15:53 AM
My FAV!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on December 16, 2012, 12:44:48 PM
Dear Santa  ::santawink::

Please have the reindeer crap on joran's head as the reindeer fly by.  ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer::  ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer::
Thank you!
ps I've been a good monkey.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Ono on December 16, 2012, 07:55:35 PM
Wasn't she just beautiful? Thank you, TM.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Yes ... she certainly was and ... with an inner glow which always cheers when you see her photographs. Just
the definition of lovely.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Ono on December 16, 2012, 07:58:25 PM
TM,
I noticed that chair too.  I thought maybe it was a prank pic at first.  lol

Clint Eastwood was there ...    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Magnolia on December 16, 2012, 10:59:59 PM
TM,
I noticed that chair too.  I thought maybe it was a prank pic at first.  lol

Clint Eastwood was there ...    ::MonkeyHaHa::


I think the chair is a Jewish wedding tradition......hoist em up and dance around.
Maybe in other cultures as well.???


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Post by: texasmom on December 17, 2012, 02:08:38 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 17, 2012, 09:13:50 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




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Post by: texasmom on December 17, 2012, 09:18:29 PM
http://www.toutelatele.com/a-travers-deux-fictions-l-affaire-natalee-holloway-captive-les-francais-45409

Sunday, December 16, 2012 | 4:06 p.m.
Jérôme Roulet NEWS TV

Through two fictions, the Natalee Holloway case captivated the French

With 23.3% audience share on 15 December 2012, TF1 has spent a beautiful day. And if the primetime with Children TV was not the strongest, the private channel could count on an afternoon win.

After the successful 13 hours, Claire Chazal has attracted 5 million followers on average with reports, or 34.5% of the audience in front of his small screen between 1:25 p.m. ET 14:45.

Then the famous Holloway case was staged through two American fiction. TF1 has abandoned his series Ghost Whisperer for the program. Natalee Holloway sought Beth, her daughter disappeared during a trip to the Caribbean island of Aruba to 2.3 million French, 22% market share.

The second movie viewers plunged five years later. While Natalee was officially announced dead, Beth tried to highlight the truth face to 2.6 million people, or 22.4% of the audience in front of his television station 4:20 p.m. to 5:50 p.m..

The story about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway has TF1 easily dominate the afternoon of the 15th of December. Saturday, two other fiction will be available on the A: Hope for Christmas and A Second Chance for Christmas.


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Post by: texasmom on December 17, 2012, 09:19:34 PM
I forgot to note that the article above is a Google translation.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: SuzieQ on December 17, 2012, 11:11:44 PM
I ran it through Bing translate and got about the same. Glad they got to see it.


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Post by: crazybabyborg on December 17, 2012, 11:41:53 PM
Dear Santa  ::santawink::

Please have the reindeer crap on joran's head as the reindeer fly by.  ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer::  ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::MonkeyReindeer::
Thank you!
ps I've been a good monkey.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDance::

Oh, I LOVE it and really needed that laugh!! Thanks, jamcakes!!    ::MonkeyReindeer:: <-------- ( I still say that if you look closely, Klaas made a lewd emoticon with this one. That monkey's smiling a little too broadly and the reindeer looks suddenly SURPRISED! )    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 18, 2012, 01:50:30 AM
 ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 18, 2012, 02:26:09 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!

 ::justice2NJ::


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Post by: Frijole on December 18, 2012, 07:22:39 AM
 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::santawink:: ::santawink:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: Northern Rose on December 18, 2012, 03:32:52 PM
INPE questioning attitude toward Fujimori
Tuesday December 18, 2012 | 1:06

She has sworn. Congressman Alejandro Aguinaga (Force 2011) rejected the attitude of the head of the National Penitentiary Institute (INPE), Jose Luis Perez Guadalupe, who warned that Alberto Fujimori will be punished if granted written or telephone interviews, although there is an express prohibition. The legislator said that this entity shows too "animosity" toward the president.

In this context, questioned express INPE prevent Fujimori, but has allowed murderers as the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot declared to foreign media.
 
::snipping2::

http://peru21.pe/impresa/cuestionan-actitud-inpe-hacia-fujimori-2108378


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Post by: texasmom on December 18, 2012, 09:22:42 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/140008-30000-dollar-boete-voor-olievervuiling-liberiaans-schip

Google translation:

$ 30,000 fine for oil pollution Liberian ship         

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2012 9:27

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/thumbnails/images-stories-2012-12-18-2286466-350x262.jpg)
The ship that morning early oil leaked into the harbor of Oranjestad.

ORANGE CITY - There was great alarm this morning in the port of Oranjestad when a ship was leaking oil. Coast Guard, maritime police, port authority APA, Valero personnel, the harbourmaster, all under the supervision of Disaster Management Office, came into action.

The stain was not so great. According to the authorities covered it about 1000 square meters and reached because the flow is not the Aruban coast.

Justice ruled this morning the fine of $ 30,000. The ship is still chained APA because the costs for the clean-up and other things will settle. And there might still claims to follow example of a cruise ship at the time of the pollution in the harbor and may have suffered damage.

In the meantime, with the accent so Valero, the spill with chemicals (Superol) treated to let it dissolve. The blot was then already on the open sea. Meanwhile, Valero was also staff at the beach with Bushiri beacons ready to prevent oil would still wash ashore. According to Prime Minister Mike Eman (AVP) this morning as the responsible Minister's Office itself pulse height was taken, the situation was quickly brought under control.

The report came just five this morning within the APA. The cause of the leak, according to the authorities to deal with possible crack in the fuel tank of the ship Southern Bay. But it could also have something to do with a welding because the ship recently (November 22) has had a major overhaul. In any case came up in the oil tank ballast water and when it flooded, the oil in the waterways. The ship sails under the Liberian flag but belongs to the fleet of shipping Seatrade Reefer Chartering (Antwerp).

According Eman there was much unrest in the early morning, because of the threat to the beaches. "The ship's company should compensate for this course, also as a signal to other companies that type of error should not happen. Especially in Aruba that is very vulnerable to the beaches so close to the harbor. "But for the countries in the area too, says the prime minister, because Aruba this fellow can be charged.
 ::snipping2::


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Post by: texasmom on December 18, 2012, 09:27:47 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/english/139863-search-for-attorney-general-for-a-longer-term

Search for attorney general for a longer term         

MONDAY, 17 DECEMBER 2012 11:51

ORANJESTAD — The appointment of an interim attorney general, Marc Van Erve, offers the Minister of Justice more time to recruit the right candidate for the longer term. Minster of Justice, Arthur Dowers (AVP), announced this during a press conference this morning, whereby Van Erve was introduced.

By our reporter Franciska Groen

As the Amigoe reported earlier, the new interim attorney general Van Erve was appointed on December 1st as the highest boss of the Public Prosecutor. He emphasized his deputyship this morning, for the duration of one year – for the time being. The search for an attorney general will not be halted with the arrival of Van Erve but offers more time to recruit the right candidate for a longer term, Minister Dowers emphasized this morning.

Van Erve stated the temporary appointment is related to his current position with the European organ for the judicial collaboration (Eurojust). This agency aims to combat serious organized and cross-border crime by improving the responsible authorities in the member countries.

Since October 2011 Van Erve as Dutch representative is namely seated on the council of Eurojust for the duration of four years. As Van Erve joined Eurojust only recently and therefore cannot simply leave the agency but was interested in the position on Aruba, a solution arose in him being replaced at Eurojust for one year. According to Van Erve, he was told he was one of the few (if not only) candidates who qualified for the position of interim attorney general.

He explained he’d visited Aruba several times during previous business trips in a different function. “Working on Aruba had been mentioned earlier but the right moment hadn’t arrived owing to the children, who have now all left home”, he said with a smile.

On being asked, Van Erve indicated not to have any clear-cut plans as yet.” I now want to immerse myself in the organization.” When asked if he shared the opinion there was turnover of staff at the Public Prosecutor, he replied “I am not aware of this but turnover for that matter needn’t be considered negative by definition; it can also be something positive.”

The new interim attorney general is known for his experience and expertise in international collaboration when it comes to combating international organized crime. In the past he was liaison magistrate with the Dutch embassy in Paris.


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Post by: texasmom on December 18, 2012, 09:38:20 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/english/139562-lower-chamber-responds-positively-to-update-on-aruba

Lower Chamber responds positively to update on Aruba         

FRIDAY, 14 DECEMBER 2012 13:21

ORANJESTAD/THE HAGUE — Undoubtedly in anticipation of future debates in the Lower Chamber, Premier Mike Eman (AVP) informed the committee Kingdom Relations in the Netherlands yesterday on the current status of affairs on Aruba and future expectations. Although in general the Lower Chamber members responded positively they had several questions on the financial situation.

By our correspondent Otti Thomas

Several times Eman mentioned the deliberation between the Aruban and Dutch department of Finance on support with the refinancing of the debt so that the owed interest could possibly decrease with 20 to 30 million guilders per year. Minister of Finance, Mike de Meza (AVP), who was also present, succeeded in agreeing to an approx. 4.5 percent interest in the last negotiations in the United States, but with the support from the Netherlands this could be reduced to 2 percent. “With the Ministry of Finance we discussed the possibility of Aruba joining the Netherlands one way or another on the international capital market. If this is possible and doesn’t pose problems, we’d gladly take advantage of this possibility. We ask you (committee members, (editorial office)) to consider this proposal. It needn’t cost the Netherlands anything, it regards the involvement”, said Eman.

The premier emphasized that possible support may not lead to tensions. “We know there is continuous tension with other parts of the Kingdom and don’t wish such arrangement to cause extra tensions. It is not worth it. We could do this on our own, because we’ve done so for 25 years.”

The substantial national debt is the result of continuous deficits on the budgets the past years, although the deficit is becoming less owing to economy measures, such as adjusting the pension system and the medical costs. Although we had a deficit of 9.4 percent of the budget in 2010, we expect this to be 4.6 percent next year. According to the current prognosis, we should have a balanced budget in 2016 so that Aruba can begin repaying the national debt instead of just the interest, said Eman.

Debt

The financial update induced committee member of Kingdom Relations, André Bosman (VVD), to ask questions. “Since 2010, the debt increased with 47 percent. If I compare this with the investments it seems like you’re financing the economic growth with the debt. How tenable is this increase of debt?” Eman, supported by De Meza, indicated however that most of the investments in the economy are made by or in collaboration with the private sector. ‘We expect to be capable of repaying that debt steadily and are convinced it will then be controllable.”

Ronald van Raak (SP) wanted to know more about the functioning of the coastguard following complaints raised during the Judicial Four Parties Deliberation. According to Eman, the Coastguard of the Caribbean Area is a good example for the excellent collaboration between the countries of the Kingdom and in general the organization functions well. He thinks the complaints mainly regard the reporting method on the results of the coastguard and the capacity of the coastguard with regard to those results. In addition, Aruba, Curaçao and St. Maarten request clarity on who informs them regarding the coastguard: the Minister of Justice or the Minister of Defense.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 19, 2012, 12:51:05 AM
http://abcnewsradioonline.com
Dana Mixer/Getty Images

(http://abcnewsradioonline.com/storage/news-images/Getty_N_011212_NataleeHolloway.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1326405144761)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 19, 2012, 08:01:49 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer Show tonight at 9pm ET

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Pretzer121912_zps276916b8.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 20, 2012, 01:50:44 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Sister on December 20, 2012, 08:23:21 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::

Thank you for sharing this.


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Post by: grace-land on December 21, 2012, 12:52:36 AM
http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=28980

AHATA elects a new Board of Directors for 2013.
Posted by Aruba Daily on December 21st, 2012

Oranjestad – On Wednesday December 19th, AHATA held its third General Assembly of 2012. The assembly was held in the new meeting facilities of the Alhambra Casino and was attended by 34 members. The meeting began with a Chairman’s report given by Fred Hoffmann, Chairman of AHATA and General Manager of the Hyatt Regency, Aruba. Mr. Hoffmann addressed a number of issues and said that one of AHATA’s highest priorities for 2013 will be to focus on safety and security issues.
 ::snipping2::
Membership elected the following directors by acclamation.
 
< Chairman: Fred Hoffmann, Hyatt Regency Aruba Resort & Casino
< 1st Vice President: Joe Najjar,  La Cabana Beach Racquet Club
< 2nd Vice President: Warren Stanley, De Palm Corporation N.V.
< Secretary: Edgar Roelofs, Manchebo Beach Resort & Spa
< Treasurer: Javier Wolter, Caribbean Mercantile Bank N.V.
< Alejandro Muyale, Tiara Air
< Peter de Hoop, Red Sail Sports
< Ewald Biemans Bucuti & Tara Beach Resort
< Paul Gielen, Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino
< Alex Nieuwmeyer, Divi Resorts
< Richard Roy, Westin Resort & Casino
< Tom Calame, Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino
< Patricia Perrone, Holiday Inn Resort Aruba
< Jesus Cardoso, Occidental Grand Aruba
< Raymond Habibe, Radisson Aruba Resort, Casino & Spa


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 21, 2012, 01:39:15 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::

Thank you for sharing this.

You're welcome Sister, I love this one...so precious!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 21, 2012, 01:49:46 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/play2-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::


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Post by: texasmom on December 21, 2012, 10:02:11 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

In brief
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2012 9:12
Murder Suspect Held The detective held this morning in Seroe Blanco a man suspected of murdering Esperanza Amparo Marte (51) in September of this year in Alto Vista. The victim ...
Read more ...

(Link to posts about the murder from September)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.msg1540508#msg1540508

http://www.awe24.com/20121212/12840/Den_un_entrada_judicial_autoridad_a_logra_detene_e_sospechoso_di_e_asesinato_di

in one entrance judicial autoridad owing to succeed detene the sospechoso of the asesinato of one lady at alto vista

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/12840/2_1355354125.jpg)

17 hora happen come across, 12 of december 2012 10:04

seccion: incidente

diaranzon morning autoridad judicial of recherche distrito north acompaña for judge comisario griffier y fiscal owing to haci one entrance judicial at one cas at seroe blanco 68f y owing to detene the sospechoso principal of the caso of the recien asesinato of one lady at alto vista. is deal here of the dominicano "will acevedo silverio" of 30 year that is being sospecha of owing to asesina his ex-suegra. at his cas the oficialnan owing to achieve several evidencia y owing to confisca all esakinan. they owing to bay cu 2 car sientanan of one car y apparently will owing to achieve drugs also the ultimo here not owing to stay confirma. the is being sospecha of owing to kill his mother-in-law cruelmente y owing to bente in one buraco in forest in cercania of the victima his trailer. judge comisario, griffier y fiscal conhuntamente cu boss of recherche of north owing to bay at the trabao of sospechoso also for look at if can achieve more evidencia.

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

Object found in septic tank murder suspect

FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012 9:08

ORANGE CITY - The police may have found the murder weapon which in September Esperanza Amparo Marte (51) Alto Vista was brought to life ....


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


In brief
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012 9:08
Four men smuggling drugs from Aruba to Belgium wanted transport in Belgium sentenced to prison terms of six months to three years. Moreover, they must pay hefty fines. The men ...


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Post by: texasmom on December 21, 2012, 10:11:35 PM
Pictures of the search of the septic tank...

http://www.awe24.com/20121220/12915/Team_di_recherche_trahando_masha_duro_mes_riba_caso_asesinato_na_Alto_Vista_nan


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Post by: texasmom on December 21, 2012, 10:27:10 PM
If I understand correctly, guy is asleep on a sofa, car pulls up shoots him twice in the forehead...he's dead.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.awe24.com/20121218/12906/UPDATE_Na_Sint_Maartenstraat_homber_drumi_riba_sofa_a_ser_dispara_2_tiro_den

Papiamentu translation:

update, at sint maartenstraat man sleep on sofa owing to being dispara 2 tiro in forehead

2 day happen come across, 18 of december 2012 23:25

seccion: incidente tuesday night owing to enter informe of cu a owing to being dispara in forehead at one cas at sint maartenstraat, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu one car toyota model new cu glasnan dark owing to stop a cu bivak muts dress tapando his cara owing to descend enter y owing to los tiro on one person sleep on sofa. the sospechoso owing to lever car y owing to actuate bay direccion of mainstreet. the victima owing to ricibi 2 tiro in forehead y was seriamente injury, at arrival of ambulance they owing to atende the victima y owing to transporte cu urgencia for centro medico for after bay hospital. his situation is much critico....

update: relaciona cu the tiroteo in caya st. maarten i have end of confirma cu for more or less 00:44 dr. daryanani y dr. croes owing to constata dead of the victima: nicaurio toledo nasi at republica dominicana day 9 of september 1990 live at caya st. maarten 20 of part of kpa y awe24.com we wanted send words of forza y cnsuelo for her famianan of the fayecido. the investigacion will sigi march his caminda.


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Post by: texasmom on December 21, 2012, 10:28:47 PM
Well...should have phrased that better!

The car didn't shoot him...but you know what I mean!

 :2doh:


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 21, 2012, 10:47:04 PM
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994 (http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994)

Aruba to spend a record US$35 million in promotion next year

ATA Is Concerned About Recent Crime Wave

December 16th 2012, Aruba.

Image

ORANJESTAD-Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) will be investing US$35 million in
promoting the island abroad during 2013, an increase of 7 percent compared to
this year. Ronella Tjin Asjoe, Director of ATA says that the funds for promoting
Aruba abroad has gradually increased over the past years.

Ever since ATA became an independent organization from the government last
year, they have seen substantial advancement in funding in promoting Aruba
abroad. This is attributed to the addition of the room tax, and as of recent the
air ticket charge, which directly goes into the fund of ATA according to their
management plan.

Tjin Asjoe explained that the air ticket charge went into effect on September 1st
2012, but that the extra charge did not had an effect on the number of visitors
to Aruba. Visitor arrivals in the months of September, October, and November
have increased.

ATA is however worried about the recent crime wave effecting mainly the resort
area, as this could tarnish the island image as a safe destination. Past missing
cases of Natalee Holloway and Robyn Gardner still continues to be a challenge
for ATA at present, and are being dealt with accordingly.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: KittyMom on December 22, 2012, 01:57:27 AM
Well...should have phrased that better!

The car didn't shoot him...but you know what I mean!

 :2doh:
lol...I was picturing a cartoon car wearing a cowboy hat and pulling a gun.  :)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 22, 2012, 02:40:42 AM
Well...should have phrased that better!

The car didn't shoot him...but you know what I mean!

 :2doh:
lol...I was picturing a cartoon car wearing a cowboy hat and pulling a gun.  :)

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::ElfMonkey::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 22, 2012, 02:42:26 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 22, 2012, 03:08:45 PM
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994 (http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994)

Aruba to spend a record US$35 million in promotion next year

ATA Is Concerned About Recent Crime Wave

December 16th 2012, Aruba.

Image

ORANJESTAD-Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) will be investing US$35 million in
promoting the island abroad during 2013, an increase of 7 percent compared to
this year. Ronella Tjin Asjoe, Director of ATA says that the funds for promoting
Aruba abroad has gradually increased over the past years.

Ever since ATA became an independent organization from the government last
year, they have seen substantial advancement in funding in promoting Aruba
abroad. This is attributed to the addition of the room tax, and as of recent the
air ticket charge, which directly goes into the fund of ATA according to their
management plan.

Tjin Asjoe explained that the air ticket charge went into effect on September 1st
2012, but that the extra charge did not had an effect on the number of visitors
to Aruba. Visitor arrivals in the months of September, October, and November
have increased.

ATA is however worried about the recent crime wave effecting mainly the resort
area, as this could tarnish the island image as a safe destination. Past missing
cases of Natalee Holloway and Robyn Gardner still continues to be a challenge
for ATA at present, and are being dealt with accordingly.

 ::snipping2::

"ATA Is Concerned About Recent Crime Wave"

This monkey may be a bit confused, but I wasn't aware that the crime wave ever stopped.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 22, 2012, 03:14:21 PM
9 more posts and I will be at a  ::snowmanlaugh::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 23, 2012, 01:46:52 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/2012-12-22/2329055_thumb160.jpg)

Justice remains silent about murder Poentje

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 22, 2012 8:33

ORANGE CITY - It's tomorrow exactly two years ago that the famous television presenter and investigative journalist John 'Poentje' Castro (47) in his own ...
Read more ...

(Article from June about the case)

http://www.amigoe.com/english/114520-new-evidence-in-murder-case-poentje-sent-to-nfi

New evidence in murder case Poentje sent to NFI         
WEDNESDAY, 6 JUNE 2012 15:02
ORANJESTAD — The Public Prosecutor have asked the Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI) to research new evidence in the murder case of Poentje Castro. The Public Prosecutor doesn’t wish to elaborate on the evidence.Apparently this is new evidence besides the Blackberry from Castro that had been researched earlier in the Netherlands. “This evidence hadn’t been sent to the Netherlands before”, spokesperson Ann Angela said before the Amigoe. The Public Prosecutor expects to receive the results in two to three months. On being asked why it had taken so long before the evidence was sent to the Netherlands, Angela replied: “We needed time to place it in a legal framework, to see what was possible from a technical point of view and to formulate the research question.” For instance, an examining magistrate on Aruba is to appoint an expert in the Netherlands who is to research the evidence. Moreover, Angela explained that this evidence came to light during the current investigation. It only became clear later on that this evidence ‘required further research’.

TV-presenter and research journalist Poentje Castro was found dead in his garden on the morning of December 23rd 2010. From the autopsy it appeared he had been shot twice around eleven o’clock the evening before. A Team Large-scale Operation (TGO) was deployed because there were very few leads from the beginning of the investigation. This often happens with serious penal acts (such as murder or kidnapping) when it’s not clear who the perpetrator is. Until now, nobody has been arrested for the murder.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 23, 2012, 03:49:48 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hjjjk556-1.jpg)

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 23, 2012, 05:21:07 AM
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994 (http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994)

Aruba to spend a record US$35 million in promotion next year

ATA Is Concerned About Recent Crime Wave

December 16th 2012, Aruba.

Image

ORANJESTAD-Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) will be investing US$35 million in
promoting the island abroad during 2013, an increase of 7 percent compared to
this year. Ronella Tjin Asjoe, Director of ATA says that the funds for promoting
Aruba abroad has gradually increased over the past years.

Ever since ATA became an independent organization from the government last
year, they have seen substantial advancement in funding in promoting Aruba
abroad. This is attributed to the addition of the room tax, and as of recent the
air ticket charge, which directly goes into the fund of ATA according to their
management plan.

Tjin Asjoe explained that the air ticket charge went into effect on September 1st
2012, but that the extra charge did not had an effect on the number of visitors
to Aruba. Visitor arrivals in the months of September, October, and November
have increased.

ATA is however worried about the recent crime wave effecting mainly the resort
area, as this could tarnish the island image as a safe destination. Past missing
cases of Natalee Holloway and Robyn Gardner still continues to be a challenge
for ATA at present, and are being dealt with accordingly.

 ::snipping2::

Oh man.... that just makes me so angry. Dealt with accordingly? Geez... That's always been the problem. ATA wanted to "deal" with the "problem" rather than resolving it. Stephany would be alive today and Beth would have buried Natalee at home long ago if that had been the objective!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: can on December 23, 2012, 06:40:44 AM
Thinking of Beth as I always do this time of year and the valiant monkeys who have stayed the course for her and Natalee.
Unfortunately Stefany and her family became unnecessary victims!   ::boxingjoran::

Thank you texasmom.  You bring so much to this thread,  and I don't say thank you often enough!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Wishing everyone a blessed Christmas and Happy Holidays.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::hanukkah1::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Ono on December 23, 2012, 01:42:48 PM
Well...should have phrased that better!

The car didn't shoot him...but you know what I mean!

 :2doh:

LOL


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on December 23, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=28980

AHATA elects a new Board of Directors for 2013.
Posted by Aruba Daily on December 21st, 2012

Oranjestad – On Wednesday December 19th, AHATA held its third General Assembly of 2012. The assembly was held in the new meeting facilities of the Alhambra Casino and was attended by 34 members. The meeting began with a Chairman’s report given by Fred Hoffmann, Chairman of AHATA and General Manager of the Hyatt Regency, Aruba. Mr. Hoffmann addressed a number of issues and said that one of AHATA’s highest priorities for 2013 will be to focus on safety and security issues.
 ::snipping2::
Membership elected the following directors by acclamation.
 
< Chairman: Fred Hoffmann, Hyatt Regency Aruba Resort & Casino
< 1st Vice President: Joe Najjar,  La Cabana Beach Racquet Club
< 2nd Vice President: Warren Stanley, De Palm Corporation N.V.
< Secretary: Edgar Roelofs, Manchebo Beach Resort & Spa
< Treasurer: Javier Wolter, Caribbean Mercantile Bank N.V.
< Alejandro Muyale, Tiara Air
< Peter de Hoop, Red Sail Sports
< Ewald Biemans Bucuti & Tara Beach Resort
< Paul Gielen, Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino
< Alex Nieuwmeyer, Divi Resorts
< Richard Roy, Westin Resort & Casino
< Tom Calame, Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino
< Patricia Perrone, Holiday Inn Resort Aruba
< Jesus Cardoso, Occidental Grand Aruba
< Raymond Habibe, Radisson Aruba Resort, Casino & Spa



WHY JESUS CARDOSO WOULD HELP FINANCE/HIRE CREMER law firm FOR KALPOES LAWSUIT AGAINST DR. PHIL

PRESIDENT OF ARUBA HOTEL SECURITY FOUNDATION
BOARD OF DIRECTOR OF AHATA
GENERAL MANAGER OF OCCIDENTAL GRAND ARUBA

Jesus Cardoso, President of the Aruba Hotel Security Foundation (AHSF) co-financed by the course, explains why. "There is a chance that hotels be held liable should it go wrong. It will therefore be found where a legal structure to protect the hotels.
"Another problem is lack of money. AHSF namely to establish such a separate organization than the use of lifeguards will govern. This requires more funds to be recruited, says Cardoso. He says the two drowning cases regrettable. Not long ago there were in his way even lifeguards by the popular beach resorts were watching. The reason why these are no longer there, do not Cardoso.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8277.300

POSTED BY: texasmom
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6448.1360
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%2014%20122009/12292009AweMaintaPg16.jpg

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/JesusCardosoAndresPichardo.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%2014%20122009/JesusCardoso_Dec2009.jpg)
Resort General Manager Jesus Cardoso-González


http://www.ahata.com/AboutUs/BoardOfDirectors.aspx
Jesus Cardoso-Gonzalez - General Manager Occidental Grand Aruba
on the Board of Directors for AHATA


Occidental Hotels
CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS
Strawinskylaan 1725
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland
1077


Netherlands

Cremer represented Hotel Royal Playacar,Which is owned by Occidental Hotel Management,which owns the Occidental Grand Aruba!
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on December 23, 2012, 02:27:30 PM
OCCIDENTAL HOTELS MANAGEMENT
Edmund J. Siegert, Chicago, IL, (Cremer Kopon Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, argued the cause for appellant Hotel Royal Playacar, S.A. de C.V. (McDermott & McGee, attorneys;  Thomas A. Wester, Milburn, and Joshua D. Yeager (Cremer, Kopon, Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, on the brief
 
Occidental Grand Aruba
http://www.occidentalhotels.com/occidental/DestinationAruba.asp


The Americana became the Allegro Resort and now operates under the name of Occidental Grand Aruba; the Sheraton was renamed the Aruba Grand before undergoing a true metamorphosis: it is now a part of the prestigious Riu Palace.
http://www.historiadiaruba.aw/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=39&lang=en

Allergro is where the two Security guards that DEEPAK AND SATISH IDEINTFIED as being the ones who were with Natalee






Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on December 23, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
(http://www16.plala.or.jp/christmas1956/11ch-othe02/2006-muppets.jpg)
Edit to fix image.  Missing bracket.  MB


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on December 23, 2012, 02:31:01 PM

(http://www16.plala.or.jp/christmas1956/11ch-othe02/2006-muppets.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on December 23, 2012, 02:48:51 PM
(http://www.hmvcurzon.com/images/img.ashx?img=/images/films/2012/Muppet_Christmas_Carol/muppetchristmascarol1900x506.jpg)


Miss Piggy and I have a professional acting relationship. I act like a profressional, and she acts like we're having a relationship.

Life's fun when you're having flies is all I know.

 ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::PopcornFrog::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Buckeye on December 23, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
OCCIDENTAL HOTELS MANAGEMENT
Edmund J. Siegert, Chicago, IL, (Cremer Kopon Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, argued the cause for appellant Hotel Royal Playacar, S.A. de C.V. (McDermott & McGee, attorneys;  Thomas A. Wester, Milburn, and Joshua D. Yeager (Cremer, Kopon, Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, on the brief
 
Occidental Grand Aruba
http://www.occidentalhotels.com/occidental/DestinationAruba.asp


The Americana became the Allegro Resort and now operates under the name of Occidental Grand Aruba; the Sheraton was renamed the Aruba Grand before undergoing a true metamorphosis: it is now a part of the prestigious Riu Palace.
http://www.historiadiaruba.aw/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=39&lang=en

Allergro is where the two Security guards that DEEPAK AND SATISH IDEINTFIED as being the ones who were with Natalee







Well, that certainly explains the Kalpoe/Chicago connection. Hope Phil can show connection.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blonde on December 23, 2012, 05:47:27 PM
Thinking of Beth as I always do this time of year and the valiant monkeys who have stayed the course for her and Natalee.

I just received a chain prayer email from Beth last week ..It was nice that I was in her thoughts : Beth is my Hero, she is the strongest woman I know, and respect 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 23, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
Thinking of Beth as I always do this time of year and the valiant monkeys who have stayed the course for her and Natalee.
Unfortunately Stefany and her family became unnecessary victims!   ::boxingjoran::

Thank you texasmom.  You bring so much to this thread,  and I don't say thank you often enough!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Wishing everyone a blessed Christmas and Happy Holidays.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::hanukkah1::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Thank you for your kindness, Can!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Merry Christmas to you and yours!   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 24, 2012, 03:07:41 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Y10.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: can on December 24, 2012, 07:09:48 AM
Thinking of Beth as I always do this time of year and the valiant monkeys who have stayed the course for her and Natalee.

I just received a chain prayer email from Beth last week ..It was nice that I was in her thoughts : Beth is my Hero, she is the strongest woman I know, and respect 

How nice for you Blonde!  You have picked a worthy hero!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: can on December 24, 2012, 07:12:50 AM
Thinking of Beth as I always do this time of year and the valiant monkeys who have stayed the course for her and Natalee.
Unfortunately Stefany and her family became unnecessary victims!   ::boxingjoran::

Thank you texasmom.  You bring so much to this thread,  and I don't say thank you often enough!   ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Wishing everyone a blessed Christmas and Happy Holidays.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1:: ::hanukkah1::

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Thank you for your kindness, Can!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Merry Christmas to you and yours!   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::



My pleasure texasmom! 

Best Christmas wishes to you and your family.   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blonde on December 24, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
(http://www16.plala.or.jp/christmas1956/11ch-othe02/2006-muppets.jpg)
Edit to fix image.  Missing bracket.  MB
Merry Christmas Kermit we go back 7 years now in our search for Natalee and our friendship will always be treasured ..


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 25, 2012, 03:02:48 AM


(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Matt_holloway.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Nataleeqqq.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/NataleeandhercousinRachelAllison1a.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/PhillishaHollowayNataleeHollowayRachelAllison.jpg)

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 25, 2012, 03:21:45 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/06302010_StephanyMemorial_2.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/06302010_StephanyMemorial_8.jpg)

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(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/stpfi.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/120520111.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/06132011_Stephanyandhermom-1-1.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/stephany_mariaelena.jpg)




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 25, 2012, 03:30:13 AM
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of Natalee and Stephany.  I hope the memories of Christmases past will bring them comfort this Christmas.

Merry Christmas everyone! 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on December 25, 2012, 04:22:36 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS

2012

I WILL BE HERE AGAIN NEXT YEAR!


 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on December 25, 2012, 01:49:22 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of Natalee and Stephany.  I hope the memories of Christmases past will bring them comfort this Christmas.

Merry Christmas everyone! 

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: lowsw on December 25, 2012, 07:21:00 PM
Merry Christmas to everyone.

It is so gratifying to see how many are still here after almost 91 months.  One day this will all end and, until then, we must keep the candle of hope burning.  Natalee will not be forgotten, nor will her family members.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Rob on December 25, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
For Natalee

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/nataleecandles_zpsba33acce.gif)

Gone from this earthly world and now in God's Arms.

Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten Never Forgotten

 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2012, 10:29:50 PM
Merry Christmas all ::MonkeyAngel::

Love,

IBE


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
Merry Christmas IBE!

Merry Christmas Rob and Lowsw & KTF!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: carpe noctem on December 26, 2012, 12:03:01 AM
Merry Christmas to everyone.

It is so gratifying to see how many are still here after almost 91 months.  One day this will all end and, until then, we must keep the candle of hope burning.  Natalee will not be forgotten, nor will her family members.

 ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::MonkeyReindeer:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey:: ::ElfMonkey::

It is gratifying. It makes my heart feel good... the gang's still all here for Natalee! She was worth it. :smt111

We may never get her body back... but never give up hope.

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: carpe noctem on December 26, 2012, 12:11:51 AM
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of Natalee and Stephany.  I hope the memories of Christmases past will bring them comfort this Christmas.

Merry Christmas everyone! 

& to you too, texasmom! ::santawink::

 Thank you for the great pictures. I love 'em.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 26, 2012, 12:58:07 AM
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of Natalee and Stephany.  I hope the memories of Christmases past will bring them comfort this Christmas.

Merry Christmas everyone! 

& to you too, texasmom! ::santawink::

 Thank you for the great pictures. I love 'em.

Thank you Carpe!  We really had a great day, so much to be thankful for.  Although snow on Christmas day is rare here, we had some this afternoon after thunderstorms last night and this morning!  It was so pretty, and was a nice ending for such a special day with family.

You're welcome, I love posting the pictures...I remember before I knew how to post them how I loved all the great ones you and others would post here for Natalee.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 26, 2012, 01:15:04 AM
I hope everyone had a very Merry Christmas, so great to see all the posts of those who stopped by today!    ::DancingSantaMonkey1::




 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 26, 2012, 01:22:29 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 26, 2012, 01:23:26 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 27, 2012, 12:54:37 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/27/top-12-crime-stories-of-2012_n_2360373.html

Top 12 Crime Stories Of 2012
Posted: 12/27/2012 8:43 am EST  |  Updated: 12/27/2012 9:21 am EST

There were many high-profile cases that captured headlines in 2012 –- too many.

Jerry Sandusky, Drew Peterson and Joran van der Sloot all garnered attention around the world in 2012 as each of their trials -– some long overdue –- made their way through the criminal court system.

 ::snipping2::

(Number 5)

Joran van der Sloot

As the old adage goes, "What goes around comes around." Some refer to it as karma. Joran van der Sloot likely calls it bad luck. Whatever the case may be, justice was served, in part, against the Dutchman on Jan. 13, 2012.

On that day, a haggard and beaten-looking van der Sloot was sentenced to 28 years in prison for the 2010 slaying of Peruvian business student Stephany Flores.

The then 23-year-old, who is equally infamous for his longtime association with the 2005 disappearance of Natalee Holloway, hung his head low as the Peruvian court clerk went over the case.

Credited with time served, van der Sloot's release date was set as June 10, 2038. Following his release, he will be expelled from the country, the court ordered.

Van der Sloot avoided trial by pleading guilty to killing Flores.

"I am truly regretful for what I have done. I feel very bad," he said.

That confession apparently had little impact on the three-judge panel, who sentenced him to only two years less than the 30-year max they could have imposed.

Van der Sloot was charged with first-degree murder and robbery in the May 30, 2010, slaying of Flores -- exactly five years after Holloway vanished. Flores was found dead in van der Sloot's hotel room in Lima on June 2, 2010.

Holloway's body has never been found, and van der Sloot has never been charged in her disappearance.

Van der Sloot will be eligible for parole after serving one-third of his sentence and could be paroled in nine years.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blonde on December 27, 2012, 02:52:58 PM
Doesn't he have to go to jail in the USA for extortion when his release date?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 27, 2012, 05:25:30 PM
Doesn't he have to go to jail in the USA for extortion when his release date?

Hopefully.  ::boxingjoran::

IIRC, the Peruvian Supreme Court approved his extradition to the United States after his prison sentence.  However, the court's decision was not final, it is still pending approval by the Minister of Justice and the Cabinet.  After that, he will face extradition and be tried on extortion charges.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 27, 2012, 05:53:25 PM
http://peru21.pe/impresa/cosas-al-reves-2109572

Google translation

Things backwards
Wednesday December 26, 2012 | 2:32
Acts that rocked the country in 2012.

 ::snipping2::
DUTCH CONVICTED
  A 28 years in prison
  On January 13, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, 25, was sentenced to 28 years in prison for killing the young student Stephany Flores. In addition, the judges ordered that the murderer pay civil damages of 200,000 soles to the relatives of the victim.

The alien pleaded guilty and accepted all charges to avoid a longer sentence. Recently, the U.S. government has requested his extradition for a crime he committed Van der Sloot there.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 28, 2012, 02:57:32 AM
I think the "bodyguard" is claiming he was set up...   ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/57746-deo-fluonia-set-up-fracasa-pa-go-ec-y-tambe-abogado-marcolino-croes-

Deo Fluonia: Set up fracasa, pa G.O , E.C. y tambe abogado Marcolino Croes      
Tuesday, 25 December 2012 13:35

Papiamentu translation:

come across deo fluonia: thirst up fracasa, for g.o come across, the.c. y also advocate marcolino croes

tuesday, 25 december 2012 13:35

sir redactor greetings. permitimi one espacio in do you media so read here at aruba for can trece one berdad fast, cu for of enough day end have to owing to being haci. my name is deonarine fluonia, cariñonsamente calling deo fluonia among my amigonan y also person they envidioso. fluonia do not much have here at aruba, but if all is aruban, arise cu much disciplina y respet for everybody. for of diminutive till cu at big we parents know of arise we, cu the thought cu if do you wanted algo in life do you have to work pe, y never live of think of touch cu materialnan of another. that i self is.

my person self for much year not owing to live at aruba debi at my scolnan y trainingnan professional cu i have go learn pe in exterior for 12 year largo. i have come bek my island for so can comparti my profesionaliso for cu my hendenan here self at aruba. here i am arise my self one compania, for so can give servicio professional local because; international, cu the aim for aporta at the ordo y trakilidad at aruba. (pro husticia) for of young till cu today in we blood is core husticia y not criminal as hendenan envidioso wanted place show. con all cos owing to cuminsa. in november 2012 was have one incidente cu owing to happen on territory of (santa rose )un of the clientenan of my compania, here i am wordo calling, for can come urgente because; cu have one trahador wanted cap one another cu machete at leg of job.

here my person is atende sr Edmond Lo A Njoe conocido of police because; Moonchi di Saliña Rooi Taki. bodyguard (sin papel) of ex minister president cu not tey more today. here sir moonchi owing to go for of sla hour my person owing to pidie for bandona territory mirando cu none person does not owing to follow work more if the is present for via of his menazanan. here wanted owing to try at agredimi also cu cuchio, but because; cu i if is prepara for type of actividadnan so here my have to owing to neutralisa his person at once y place think one rato cu his decision was robez contra my person. for of the day here end the is stay try at terorisami y menasando my constantemente in his hendenan y faction. for everybody can know by now deo fluonia not owing to become berde(*a.v.p*) never. y niether do not opportunist without paper, i am work much duro for all locual i have cu sodor of my forehead. i am berde (*a.v.p*) by cu i have nace y will my die berde(*a.v.p*) cu proud if have have to also, but cu my cara at air as one good professional always.

what owing to happen 8 of december ultimo. more or less 1:45 am after of one beautiful party of pasco, my person owing to dicidi for can follow trip in hotzone at the highrise hotel area. here i have happen more of 3 club for can look at ambiente y follow for cas. saliendo on caminda i have dicidi cu enter one alley descend for so can urine y follow my caminda, parando my car, cual owing to stay open, because; cu do not neither 30 metre far i have go urine. cabando at urine i am notice two young is core much sospechoso, here i am notice they're lever on territory of one of hotel raddison y is disparce. i am talk cu the security of the hotel radisson,kende was sacando person landando in they pool, notificando the cu i have end of see two young at careda lever they territory. papiando cu the security of radisson, is show up one another security of the hotel at near, cual is occidental. here the is notifica we cu they owing to end of steal in his hotel cual is occidental.

at once i have notifica the security of raddison for her raporta this of trip at his superiornan, because; without doubt will is the same guynan cu i have look at core lever his territory. my self on my telefoon owing to calling central of police, for can is present because; cu have one caso of ladronicia cu did take lugar. here police is arrive, i am talk cu they of locual owing to happen y also locual i have see. but termina y here i have bandona the caminda my was stop among raddison y occidental hotel. the service road. y is follow. at eagle beach i am stop come across, for so can go march on beach y disfruta of air sweet y the sonido of lama cual normal i am haci all day. here i am notice one van of police cu luz big is as lusa on my car, y i have dicidi of march go bek look at what is pasando. here was have one sun police more one acolyte of prensa present cu camara in hand. y i am ask about if all cos is ok, here i am wordo notifica cu they will is buscando one pair of person. odd cu i have achieve is if, cu hour i am go start for actuate my car the agent policial is notificami cu my baul of car is open, cual my know cu was close at all instant. but staño the was open. but dicidi cu is late end lagami go cas numa. on caminda for cas near of the cruzada of fatum cu divi divi i am wordo close for one car of police style of pelicula, cu is bisami for wing at near cual i have haci also according ordo. here the police is pidimi for descend for of my car y stop fast this, cual i have haci also. in less of 5 minuut was have more of 4 car of police cu owing to come block rond dimi y more cu 10 police rond dimi y without let for more of 6 acolyte of prensa my slow near of the car of polisnan y i just memey. here i have spanta one some, because owing to think cu a will owing to thigh tell cu i am core y also drink behind stuur.

cual porcierto full the night ey is 6 glass of binja corra only i have drink. at my file i am tell one of polisnan why tanto fanfaria so here, y for cara of my compania the notice bonita for is stop so here as one stupid y the is open door of car of police for my sit inside behind, for is leeu of prensa, vooral cu like play or send politicamente. according i am in car of police i am notice more cu 6 police is bolter full in my car, as hendenan cu is busca for arm owing to *cual my not have to for is homber*. i always owing to march clean, because my know what my can haci for defende my self tog. two police is lever in the car cu i am inside y is go strike one bocht cumi y return bek at the sitio, cual pami was much odd self. neither one minuut stop the police cu is at stuur is bisami cu they will take away my car keep of north, y cu they wanted one declaracion dimi, of what all i have haci the night ey. but owing to give full my schedule of what all i have haci y i have sit keep. here is come one of the hefenan y is bisami cu my will stay deteni for owing to cumpra cosnan steal. wel here my fuse owing to fly, y owing to cuminsa haci questions of con door cumpra cosnan steal, if my not was cu none person. was my only direccion for cas cu polisnan owing to parami. wel this owing to hacimi achieve much angry at the instant ey, y they owing to serami. one good police owing to acercami bisami cu they owing to serami because of owing to achieve 3 telefoon steal scondi in my dashboard, cual do not klop. because my know in my dashboard was have my creditcard more rijbewijs y contract of the car only cu i have let behind. never my not owing to see none another telefoon cu not was esun diminan on my. aka i am become bad y is go hospital for wordo atendi. after of one pair of day i have wordo send keep of police bek, for so can end cu the questions haci at my person. here i have stay close inocentemente 10 day at keep of police perhudicando my presencia for cu my clientenan. enz.

because my know of locual all owing to wordo tell do not cuadra cu the realidad. if can owing to notice of much cos cu owing to wordo tell or talk cu this is full one thirst up for perhudica my person his name. at all esnan envidioso, you laugh numa because one for one will my look at all of you arrive bek close my. at the person or personanan cu owing to thirst my up, will my busca you all, y will my achieve you all, y hour my achieve you, will my learn you all for not hacie cu another more. eronia of life during cu i have wordo deteni, was have one advocate marcolino croes that have one declaration of policy all saturday at radio instigando person of, here the person here because; my not owing to use because; advocate pound pay for gobierno, this owing to go radio y owing to haci mofa of all the susedido, sr m.croes you the advocate of water sweet, cu owing to go try at soil my number at radio immidiately because my not owing to haci usage dibo servicionan, i am immidiately lagabo for god because tardi or trempan will my topabo tog in corte supremo. because locual cu you have haci is one berguensa for cu bufete of abogadonan, shame on u for is using informacionnan hudicial not concreto for can work one declaration of policy of radio low so ey. all corant all grabacion i have end in my bezit, y will cuminsa march my camindanan legal contra all cu owing to try at perhudicami. night i am sleep trankil because my know i am clean, of all locual they wanted aperenta cu i am. sorry for you all cu owing to doubt in my, but cosna so here of berdad is mustrabo is kennan of berdad is do you amigonan. profesionalidad is for always, but one politico corrupto not, you owing to abort you owing to achieve, y mark my word people do not ciego more dus buso busca all cos numa, one wall firme is dificil for tumba. y at the poor cocainehead of g.o look at do you shade good because even esey is disparce in scuridad. thanks for her esapacio wait for of can owing to trece claridad cu the berdad in all the asunto orquestra here. deo fluonia is naci cla y is teme only god father none person more.

husticia is esun cu is believe in his word. 7404004 or pin 26010cfa for cualkier question or servicio of proteccion certifica ace the holiday season is upon us, we find ourselves reflecting on the past year and on those who have helped us shape our business. we value our relationship with you and look forward to working with you in the year to come. we wish you owing to happy holiday season and owing to new year filled with peace and prosperity. provided that estas fiestas navideñas más que never,nuestros pensamientos se vuelven provided that agradecimiento hacia aquellos que han mature posible nuestro advance.con este espíritu lesson decimos con sencillez but con sinceridad,gracias y lesson deseamos los mejores deseos stop una feliz navidad y one próspero año nuevo

deonarine th. fluonia

manager director c.s.i. squad aruba come across


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 28, 2012, 03:15:58 AM
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Justice for Stephany! 

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 28, 2012, 11:10:15 AM
https://www.facebook.com/dilma.a.geerman


Work and Education

The Economist
Contributor/Writer · Oranjestad, Aruba
Weekly contributor on economy and politics in St. Maarten and Aruba

NECA INK.
Director · Oranjestad, Aruba
Company provides media consultancy; projects, articles for various media.

Radio Nederland Wereldomroep
Correspondent · Sep 2010 to Sep 2012
Provide reports on relevant Aruban issues

Bon Dia Aruba
Reporter · Oranjestad, Aruba · Apr 2004 to Jun 2012
Indepth reports on current and relevant issues

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https://www.arubachamber.com/registers

Registered Business

Name   NECA ENTERPRISES N.V.
Trade Name   NECA INK
Address   MOKO 225, NOORD
KvK nr   41689.0
Branch   8466 ADMINISTRATIVE & HUMAN RESOURCES CONSULTANTS

https://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=43678

Friday, December 28, 2012 11:10
 
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - JE Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 01 MARCH 2012 under serial number 41689.0 is the company with the entered name:
 
NECA INK
 
Business address   MOKO 225, NORTH
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   NECA ENTERPRISES NV
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   24 FEBRUARY 2012
    
Authorized capital   Aruban FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital   Aruban FLORINS 10,000.00
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Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
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DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

ARENDS, JOHN ELOY MAXIMILIAN;
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Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
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ARENDS-GEERMAN, DILMA TEODORA;
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 28, 2012, 11:57:41 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://arubaherald.com/911/3956-sharda-nuboer-sentenced-to-afl-600-fine-for-fatal-accident-while-dui.html

Sharda Nuboer sentenced to Afl. 600 fine for fatal accident while DUI         
Tuesday, 25 December 2012 15:15
 
Some months ago Sharda Nuboer ran over a pedestrian. She did not stop, but drove to her home and only later turned herself in to police and was detained. She was being charged of fatally injuring the pedestrian while DUI and driving a car with dark tinted windows. Prosecution prolonged her detention, after which a judge of instruction had her released. The public prosecutor's office appealed the decision and Nuboer was once again detained, but released once more on September 12.   Prosecution had requested 15 months jail time based on charges of causing a fatal accident while DUI and driving in a car that had dark tinted windows. Recently the court announced the judge decided to let Nuboer walk. He said that there was not enough proof in the police file that can indicate that Nuboer had intentionally caused the accident. What the judge did however recognize were the charges that the driver was DUI, she was riding a car of which the windows are too dark and also was driving a car that did not hold a valid technical inspection certification. She was sentenced to an Afl. 600 fine.

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_425_0_1___images_stories_news_2012_dec_25_acc_fatal_may_14_DSC_3060.jpg)

http://www.boletinextra.com/chofer-cu-a-causa-accidente-fatal-un-dama-hulandes-a-entrega-su-mes/

Papiamentu translation:

chofer cu owing to cause accidente fateful, one lady dutch owing to entrega his self
written by bulletin on may 14, 2012. posted in local

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the chauffeur is the muher s.n.naci at the netherlands of 23 anja. y the vehiculo is the car nissan platinum grey a-31514. according the investigadornan ela declara cu the not owing to drink but hour owing to test the ela blow 270 ugl while cu the ley is permiti maximo 220 ugl. ela stay deteni for investigacion.

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The woman that was killed was 50 years old.

http://www.awe24.com/10725

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Luz Maria Orozco Rios, Col. 22 juli 1961 Hubadastraat 3.

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She worked at Wendy's

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=301568406596600&set=a.283831278370313.69998.134664979953611&type=1

Papiamentu translation:

wendy's aruba

may 16
the family of wendy’s is conmovi cu fayecemento of we colega love, luz maria orozco, that owing to go let we in one as tristo monday ultimo. luz maria was pertenece at the team of wendy’s boulevard y was much keri for his colega they y manager they cu owing to work cune of serca during his 12 year they of servicio cu wendy’s. we always will recorda luz maria because; one person much cheerful cu never do not angry y because; one trahado ehemplar. alabes we wanted owing to gradici all cliente cu owing to calling we for expresa they tristesa y give we sosten. staff y personal of wendy’s is extende word they of condolencia y much compel at family y amistades of luz maria. cu luz maria sosega at paz.

Photo tribute here:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.301735943246513.73400.134664979953611&type=1


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2012, 04:32:27 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Buckeye on December 29, 2012, 09:19:10 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

http://arubaherald.com/911/3956-sharda-nuboer-sentenced-to-afl-600-fine-for-fatal-accident-while-dui.html

Sharda Nuboer sentenced to Afl. 600 fine for fatal accident while DUI         
Tuesday, 25 December 2012 15:15
 
Some months ago Sharda Nuboer ran over a pedestrian. She did not stop, but drove to her home and only later turned herself in to police and was detained. She was being charged of fatally injuring the pedestrian while DUI and driving a car with dark tinted windows. Prosecution prolonged her detention, after which a judge of instruction had her released. The public prosecutor's office appealed the decision and Nuboer was once again detained, but released once more on September 12.   Prosecution had requested 15 months jail time based on charges of causing a fatal accident while DUI and driving in a car that had dark tinted windows. Recently the court announced the judge decided to let Nuboer walk. He said that there was not enough proof in the police file that can indicate that Nuboer had intentionally caused the accident. What the judge did however recognize were the charges that the driver was DUI, she was riding a car of which the windows are too dark and also was driving a car that did not hold a valid technical inspection certification. She was sentenced to an Afl. 600 fine.

(http://arubaherald.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b_640_425_0_1___images_stories_news_2012_dec_25_acc_fatal_may_14_DSC_3060.jpg)

http://www.boletinextra.com/chofer-cu-a-causa-accidente-fatal-un-dama-hulandes-a-entrega-su-mes/

Papiamentu translation:

chofer cu owing to cause accidente fateful, one lady dutch owing to entrega his self
written by bulletin on may 14, 2012. posted in local

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the chauffeur is the muher s.n.naci at the netherlands of 23 anja. y the vehiculo is the car nissan platinum grey a-31514. according the investigadornan ela declara cu the not owing to drink but hour owing to test the ela blow 270 ugl while cu the ley is permiti maximo 220 ugl. ela stay deteni for investigacion.

 ::snipping2::


The woman that was killed was 50 years old.

http://www.awe24.com/10725

 ::snipping2::

Luz Maria Orozco Rios, Col. 22 juli 1961 Hubadastraat 3.

 ::snipping2::

She worked at Wendy's

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=301568406596600&set=a.283831278370313.69998.134664979953611&type=1

Papiamentu translation:

wendy's aruba

may 16
the family of wendy’s is conmovi cu fayecemento of we colega love, luz maria orozco, that owing to go let we in one as tristo monday ultimo. luz maria was pertenece at the team of wendy’s boulevard y was much keri for his colega they y manager they cu owing to work cune of serca during his 12 year they of servicio cu wendy’s. we always will recorda luz maria because; one person much cheerful cu never do not angry y because; one trahado ehemplar. alabes we wanted owing to gradici all cliente cu owing to calling we for expresa they tristesa y give we sosten. staff y personal of wendy’s is extende word they of condolencia y much compel at family y amistades of luz maria. cu luz maria sosega at paz.

Photo tribute here:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.301735943246513.73400.134664979953611&type=1


So, if I understand this correctly, the driver was fined $335 for manslaughter during a probable DUI.

Guess they will never clean up their drinking problems.   


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2012, 12:29:22 PM
Searching for a missing tourist...

http://www.awe24.com/20121229/13016/Autoridadnan_buscando_un_turista_norte-americano_perdi_su_nomber_ta_John_y_e

Papiamentu translation:

autoridadnan buscando one tourist norte- americano perdi, his name is john y the is one some deaf y desorienta

1 hora happen come across, 29 of december 2012 11:44

seccion: incidente

at the momentonan here autoridadnan is buscando one tourist cual will is inlocalisable, is deal here of one tourist norte-americano cual his name is john dawson of 70 year cual is hospedando at la cabana the is dress cu one petchi blauw cu barbados scirbi on dje. his child muher is buscando his father cual is one some deaf y desorienta. if do you succeed see the person here cu the descripcionnan here informa police at once. the photograph is come in some instant.....nos will follow informa

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13016/1_1356798320.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2012, 01:10:32 PM
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So, if I understand this correctly, the driver was fined $335 for manslaughter during a probable DUI.

Guess they will never clean up their drinking problems.   

Yes, I think you've summed it up correctly Buckeye.

I've seen it so much it doesn't really surprise me anymore.  It's just sickening.  Where's the humanity?  Look at her car.  She HAD TO KNOW she hit someone, the woman hit her windshield but she just kept driving?  Yes, she was 23 and that's young but I can't imagine WHY she didn't stop and see if she could help the poor woman.  I've wondered how long she waited to turn herself in.  Would she have turned herself in if witnesses hadn't taken her license number and turned it over to police?  Would she have blown a higher level if she'd stopped and been tested at the scene?  Did she have her child with her in the car?

Last night I ran through the translator and read a lot of the comments on articles from when the accident happened and after the judge let her off so lightly.  Many were angry about her drinking and driving but there were also many that pitied her right after it happened, (summarizing) she was young, she didn't mean to do it, no guidelines as to how many drinks make you over the line to drive, she's not really a "criminal" let her go...and on and on.  After the judge's recent ruling many are angry...if she hadn't had a Dutch name would it have been different?  How much is a life really worth in Aruba?  If the person killed had been Dutch or a relative of the judge would it have been different? 

This is one example from right after the accident in May...

http://www.awe24.com/10740

Papiamentu translation:

judge comisario owing to prolonga detencion of lady chofer cu owing to ocasiona accidente fateful monday

225 day happen come across, 18 of may 2012 12:04

seccion: incidente

(from the FB comments)

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prevencion of crimen · subscribe · top commenter · works at korps politie aruba btw....ma ripara at the avalancha of comentarionan cu at aruba again is that is aberration? ley is aberration, police is aberration, one bit more they owing to tell cu is the victima self is aberration (esey only miss!!) but eesun cu owing to core car under influencia if do not aberration....wel...lagami immidiately think cu is emocion of amigonan for my not believe cu aruba owing to become hopeloos.....increibel!!!
reply · 5 · like · follow post · may 18 at 10:41am

dilma arends geerman · subscribe · contributor/writer at the economist
hi prevencion; do you have razon.....for of instant cu i have cuminza stuur y now i have one child is stuur i am ask for never for we culpa, cu a can lose his life in trafico...pero my not can help of achieve pity of the child muher here, because the is just one anja more old cu my child....berdad the was over the limit, but none caminda at aruba is give indicacion if one, two or three cerbez, or one, two glass of binja already is trece do you over the limit....dus the consientisacion ey not tey..logico cu the victima y his family is esnan cu more owing to lose, but also the young here.....it is though....
reply · 4 · like · may 18 at 10:47am

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2012, 01:14:36 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/141030-verkeerspolitie-aantal-ongelukken-blijft-hoog

Google translation:

Traffic Police: 'Number of accidents remains high'         
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 28, 2012 9:12

ORANGE CITY - About 500 per month, some 6,000 annually so. Thus the estimate of the main Traffic Police, Richardo Muller, the number of traffic accidents. He therefore looks back with mixed feelings on this year, because he that number far too high, while in 2012 the police actually very much controlled.

The number of traffic controls was therefore higher than all previous years, says Muller, and a record number of records distributed and people fined. Yet decreases the amount of traffic is not and he blames that on a number of factors. Thus Aruba relatively large cars. "Too much for such a small island, I think." According to Muller is about 60,000 cars without taxis, trucks or other special transportation to count. "Otherwise you're talking about more than 70,000 vehicles."

Snelhei d

With so many vehicles there are enough roads needed. "But our road network is limited. Next year hopefully the dual carriageway finished and there are still ring roads to relieve traffic. But in general, there is a lot of traffic, while everyone still hurry. "Residents are known for their calm demeanor, Muller says, but that behavior is certainly not while driving. Usually plays a major role and speed so happen therefore, despite extra police checks, nevertheless many accidents. "And we can not now once beside each car an agent set. Each driver must respect the traffic and reduce speed. Only way we can reduce the number of accidents. "

The number of fatalities so far this year stands at nineteen, that is according to Muller high. Yet he remembers that in 1978, 35 fatalities were the year before and 30 fatalities were. "There were fewer cars and less collisions. Well died in an accident often several people. "The high number of accidents at the moment is what the head of the traffic police especially worrying. Next year will be continued with the traffic police checks in the hope that fewer accidents happen. Muller and want more information give especially so on lowering the speed.

Yet no blaastes t

Also, drunk driving is a concern. It allows Muller know that the police no bladder performs tests because equipment is outdated. New equipment has been ordered and should arrive in November, but there were delays. "Hopefully it in January." Severe accidents with injuries or fatalities, the police doing an appeal to the military police who do have the appropriate equipment. Additional blood test is also possible. But in other cases the motorist not to blow and only get a police report. "It is the judge who must decide whether it was right or not."


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2012, 01:33:21 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/english/141041-ahata-safety-top-priority-in-2013

Ahata: safety top priority in 2013         
FRIDAY, 28 DECEMBER 2012 12:26

ORANJESTAD — The safety of the residents of Aruba is the top priority in 2013, according to Fred Hoffmann, chairman of Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (Ahata).Hoffmann, who is also general director of the Hyatt Regency, stated this at the third general meeting of Ahata where the new Board of Commissioners for 2013 was introduced. Ahata also looked back on 2012 both financially and actively. The chairman indicated Ahata will encourage and support all initiatives in the field of safety. He is also of the opinion that every attempt to undermine the basis of the tourism industry is actually an attack on the general safety of the country. If Aruba wants to uphold its standard of life then it must protect the tourist industry. Hoffmann stated that the industry is at war with the criminal elements that threaten the safety and will therefore consider this an area for special attention in the future.

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2012, 03:07:51 PM
http://issuu.com/awemainta/docs/27dec2012

Awe Mainta 12/27/2012 Page 2

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Misc%20News%202012/12272012_AweMainta_Pg2-1.jpg)

Same photo posted here with comments...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=511286332226453&set=a.101402196548204.3037.100000352729003&type=1&relevant_count=1

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Hubert Thiel They are soooooo opening the wrong door for others to walk through.
Yesterday at 11:51am · Like · 1

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2012, 03:24:59 PM
Missing three years now...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3914169134393&set=o.156612225758&type=1&ref=nf

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/73062_3914169134393_225441341_n.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

fundacion alzheimer aruba today is exactly 3 anja cu sr. rock owing to desaparece. cua lesson we can learn for of this? at his family is go we sosten! also at the famianan cu is experienciando the self one sort of perdida here much compel. faa is convivi cu all esnan cu is experienciando the pesadia of never can owing to despidi of you sernan keri at one form human cu they merese. pricipalmente in the dianan of party we fast. rock- maude proyect of faa is sigi consientisa comunidad! let we wait for cu one day the proyecto here haja more sosten y cooperacion y union for can help preveni the casonan here take luga on one island so diminutive y become "cold cases"!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on December 29, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
http://trome.pe/actualidad/1515917/noticia-ariel-valdivia-fue-trasladado-piedras-gordas

Google translation

Saturday December 29, 2012 - 08:40
Ariel Valdivia was moved to Piedras Gordas

The cries of "murderer", "bastard" and "rot in jail" dozens of angry onlookers, was transferred from the holding cells at the courthouse to the prison "Piedras Gordas" Argentine Ariel Ancon Valdivia Magallanes (34), "The Butcher", accused of killing his girlfriend, mother and brother with knives.

It was reported that he was held in the maximum security prison referred to an individual to be considered "extremely dangerous." At that place are the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot and Alejandro Trujillo Ospina Colombian hit man, "Clown", among other murderers.
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 29, 2012, 06:37:05 PM
Searching for a missing tourist...

http://www.awe24.com/20121229/13016/Autoridadnan_buscando_un_turista_norte-americano_perdi_su_nomber_ta_John_y_e

Papiamentu translation:

autoridadnan buscando one tourist norte- americano perdi, his name is john y the is one some deaf y desorienta

1 hora happen come across, 29 of december 2012 11:44

seccion: incidente

at the momentonan here autoridadnan is buscando one tourist cual will is inlocalisable, is deal here of one tourist norte-americano cual his name is john dawson of 70 year cual is hospedando at la cabana the is dress cu one petchi blauw cu barbados scirbi on dje. his child muher is buscando his father cual is one some deaf y desorienta. if do you succeed see the person here cu the descripcionnan here informa police at once. the photograph is come in some instant.....nos will follow informa

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13016/1_1356798320.jpg)


http://www.awe24.com/20121229/13016/UPDATE_A_LOCALISA_un_turista_norte-americano_perdi_ela_ser_encontra_banda_di

Papiamentu translation:

update owing to localisa one tourist norte- americano perdi, ela being encontra near of paradise beach villas

7 hora happen come across, 29 of december 2012 11:44

seccion: incidente

at the momentonan here autoridadnan is buscando one tourist cual will is inlocalisable, is deal here of one tourist norte-americano cual his name is john dawson of 70 year cual is hospedando at la cabana the is dress cu one petchi blauw cu barbados scirbi on dje. his child muher is buscando his father cual is one some deaf y desorienta. if do you succeed see the person here cu the descripcionnan here informa police at once. update: owing to succeed localiza the person perdi they owing to haye at paradise beach villas, thanks at we publicacion.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 30, 2012, 03:59:01 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 30, 2012, 04:02:03 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 30, 2012, 11:07:58 PM
http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/57886-polis-buscando-eric-de-cuba-un-criminal-peligroso-

Papiamentu translation:

police buscando eric de cuba one criminal dangerous

sunday, 30 december 2012 09:50

eric de cuba is naci at aruba 8 jan 1968 y live at hill blanco. actualmente the is wordo busca for atraco y also for attempt of asesinato again. the was close recien for some year relaciona cu one hincamento. past owing to hinca one person in throat y was miss some for her person here owing to fayece. the was sospecha cu the person here will was have algo cu his ex. is more bien one lift past owing to give the ex for trabao y owing to hera achieve his dead at hand of he eric de cuba. eric de cuba is one adicto live at hill blanco. the have the district also teroriza cu ladronicia. actualmente have suspicion also for atraconan arm cu the will owing to comete. after cu past owing to end of leave for of kia past owing to fit one another lady. here also the relacion owing to end. eric de cuba not owing to acepta this. the criminal here owing to cuminsa persigui y menaza his victima. is teme cu the can kill the ex. have complaint oficial entrega. some day happen caminda the ex is work at santa cruz eric de cuba will owing to haci one call anunciando one bom melding. after past owing to menaza the ex cu will send person throw cos in his cara y disfigure. past owing to succeed this also because one person desconoci the enter in the restaurant at santa cruz y throw ammonia in cara of the lady trahando. past owing to scapa by cu at once some person owing to yude y lage bath y evita damage. the buskeda of eric de cuba is follow y at three ocasion past owing to succeed scapa of wordo grab. the know cu police is buske. marduga past owing to wordo busca for team of aresto y team of remark of cuerpo policial. the conoce the area of hill blanco much good self. esey owing to place cu the can owing to scapa. now is instant for place his photograph for esnan cu mire calling 100 y they will zorg for send police for place hand on dje. is sospecha cu the is arm. kiermen polisnan will not bacila at instant cu busca his right.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_thumbs/b.175.125.16777215.0....images.stories.news.2012.dec.30.polis_buscando_eric_de_cuba_un_criminal_peligroso.Eric%20(1).jpg)



http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=188.msg873297#msg873297


http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_59225.php

Google translation:

Aruba

Five years in prison for stabbing down with scissors

7 Jul, 2009, 14:27 (GMT -04:00)


ORANGE CITY - Eric de Cuba was Friday sentenced to five years in prison for attempted murder. At the end of last year he tried with a scissors to a man's life to. The Public Prosecutor (OM) had seven years in prison and demanded compensation.

The victim was 279 florin assigned.

The put Cuba in December 2008 a pair of scissors in the throat of the victim. This came this close to life. A piece of the scissors was found and seized as evidence. Although Cuba initially denied responsibility and then claimed by drugs and alcohol 'are nothing of the incident to remember, do DNA research that the perpetrator was. De Cuba, known as a drug addict, had argued for a lower sentence. He would kick and before two years in the Dominican Republic to stay.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 31, 2012, 01:22:55 AM
I'd seen most of these in the media at some time or other, but thought others might not have.  It was a good refresher to read the descriptions and dates especially when they were taken. 

http://www.corbisimages.com/ImageGroup/5/1299615/42-18579709



I only noticed this restriction on the pictures with Paulus van der Sloot in them...

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/42-15481344/dutch-man-van-der-sloots-lawyer-swan?popup=1

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/42-15481341/dutch-van-der-sloot-leaves-police-station?popup=1

Quote
Not available for license to or for use in the Netherlands. For multi-territory license please contact your Corbis Account Representative.

Maybe because at the time he was a Dutch judicial official?   ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thought this one was interesting too.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
Was Deepak's name really not in this press already at this time?  Wow...
http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/42-18579714/aruba-abduction-natalee-holloway?popup=1
Aruba - Abduction - Natalee Holloway
A suspect from Surinam is escorted to a police car after a session with Judge Bob Wit at the Aruba Court House. He is one of the three suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.
Stock Photo ID:42-18579714
Date Photographed:June 17, 2005
Model Released:No Release
Property Released:No Release
Photographer:Nelson Andrade
Location:Oranjestad, Aruba
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Steve Croes didn't get quite as much consideration...interesting huh?  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/42-18579716/aruba-abduction-natalee-holloway?popup=1

Aruba - Abduction - Natalee Holloway
Tatoo's pleasure boat DJ, S. Croes (R), who is one of the suspects in the Natalee Holloway case, arrives to the court helped by an agent (2nd R) to appear before the judge who decided if his detention was legal or not. His lawyer (L) stands nearby. After Croes left the court, he was taken to the Oranjestad Police Station where he was detained.
Stock Photo ID:42-18579716
Date Photographed:June 20, 2005
Model Released:No Release
Property Released:No Release
Photographer:Nelson Andrade
Location:Oranjestad, Aruba
Credit:© Nelson Andrade/epa/Corbis
License Type:Rights Managed (RM)
Category:News
Collection:Corbis Wire
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There are a few from the first three pages of photos here that I don't remember seeing including two of Judge Bob Wit arriving in Aruba from Curacao on June 17, 2005. 

Those are on the second page.

http://fotos.sapo.pt/tags/crime/?listar=poucas&ordenar=alfabeticamente&pagina=29



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Magnolia on December 31, 2012, 01:33:29 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Beth always fixed Natalee so cute.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 31, 2012, 03:00:47 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Beth always fixed Natalee so cute.

She sure did.   ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 31, 2012, 03:20:19 AM
Came across this while looking for info on Eric de Cuba (posted above, not the same one in this article) but there is a picture of Hubert Tiel with this article, and since he doesn't have a picture on the Aruban Who's Who page I thought Klaas might want to add it. 

http://www.diario.aw/2012/12/sr-hubert-tiel-y-sr-eric-de-cuba-a-wordo-reconoci-pa-mustang-club-aruba/

Papiamentu translation:

sr. hubert tiel y sr. eric de cuba owing to wordo reconoci for mustang club aruba

publication: friday, 28 december 2012.
categoria: general

oranjestad (aan)—durante of one supper of pascu cu mustang club of aruba owing to as, his president in person of sr. roland thijsem owing to sorprende two person cu one beautiful plakkaat of reconocimento. the first plakkaat owing to bay for hubert tiel, reportero y fotografo of matutino daily paper y cu much year in the world of motorsport. in the own words of roland thijsen at all esnan present. the reconocimento here is assure at his luga, already cu owing to stay demostra cu hubert tiel not only is good conoci in the world of motorsport, but is also one person cu when cu do you yame for algo cu have of haber cu the world of motorsport, is percura for tey present or is present his consehonan. the of two plakkaat owing to bay for sr. eric de cuba. one person much conoci in the world of automobilismo tanto here at aruba because; at merca also y one of the fundadonan for thing is deal mustang club aruba. eric de cuba keto bay is form part of the miembresia of mustang club aruba y another car club more. cu this roland thijsen owing to gradici the two personanan here for they aporte for thing is deal mustang club aruba y is wait for of can follow count ; cu they sosten y support for her proximo year.

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/mustang-club-kerst-19.jpg)
Hubert Tiel and Roland Thijsen

(cropped and enlarged)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/HubertTiel-1_zps3456639c.jpg)


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0
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Quote
TIEL, Hubert – reporter who allegedly followed a car with girl who looked like Natalee

He's also in some 2010 Diario carnaval celebration pictures here:

http://www.diario.aw/2010/02/celebracion-di-carnaval-di-empleadonan-di-diario/

This is one of them...

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/carnavala-Diario-43.jpg)

And I remembered this picture too from a few years ago...it's not labeled here but I think it was on one of his social pages that I'd seen before.  I remember wondering if it was the same Hubert Tiel...

http://www.myspace.com/69879120/photos/475396

(resized)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/MaxArendszandHubertTiel-1_zps0b066399.jpg)

My Photos
1 Photo, Feb 27 2007

http://www.myspace.com/69879120

Max

Male

Age: 34


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 31, 2012, 03:25:37 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/bethandnatalee_01-1.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Beth_hollowaytruestorygall-.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on December 31, 2012, 01:11:41 PM
Thanks TM - I added Hubert Tiel's photo to the Aruban Who's Who


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 31, 2012, 02:03:39 PM
Thanks TM - I added Hubert Tiel's photo to the Aruban Who's Who

Thank you!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Lifesong on December 31, 2012, 05:09:11 PM


Happy New Year, Monkeys!

May this finally be the year that we see Justice for Natalee and the Kalpoe's lose their false case.

Peace to all.  

(Er...except Deepak. Hope he's still tossing, turning and grinding his teeth.)

 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on December 31, 2012, 05:14:28 PM


Happy New Year, Monkeys!

May this finally be the year that we see Justice for Natalee and the Kalpoe's lose their false case.

Peace to all.  

(Er...except Deepak. Hope he's still tossing, turning and grinding his teeth.)

 ::monkeywine2::

Hear, hear!   ::CowboySmiley:: ::monkeywine2::

Happy New Year to you and yours Lifesong!   ::HelloKitty::

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 01, 2013, 05:07:22 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on January 01, 2013, 02:26:30 PM
Thanks for the Christmas clothes, but it's time to go back to my regular look.  HAPPY NEW YEAR, MONKEYS! I hope this year is your best ever.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: AZSunny on January 01, 2013, 09:45:12 PM


Happy New Year, Monkeys!

May this finally be the year that we see Justice for Natalee and the Kalpoe's lose their false case.

Peace to all.  

(Er...except Deepak. Hope he's still tossing, turning and grinding his teeth.)

 ::monkeywine2::

Hear, hear!   ::CowboySmiley:: ::monkeywine2::

Happy New Year to you and yours Lifesong!   ::HelloKitty::

 ::justice2NJ::

Happy New year to all the monkey's and your support for  Natalee the last 7 years. Blessing to both Natalee's family and Stephaines families.  Thanks for all your monkey updates, and support of the Monkey family.  Blessing to you all for a wonderful new year.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 01, 2013, 09:47:51 PM
Hi Az!!!  It's good to see you!!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 02, 2013, 01:51:06 AM


Happy New Year, Monkeys!

May this finally be the year that we see Justice for Natalee and the Kalpoe's lose their false case.

Peace to all.  

(Er...except Deepak. Hope he's still tossing, turning and grinding his teeth.)

 ::monkeywine2::

Hear, hear!   ::CowboySmiley:: ::monkeywine2::

Happy New Year to you and yours Lifesong!   ::HelloKitty::

 ::justice2NJ::

Happy New year to all the monkey's and your support for  Natalee the last 7 years. Blessing to both Natalee's family and Stephaines families.  Thanks for all your monkey updates, and support of the Monkey family.  Blessing to you all for a wonderful new year.

So good to see you AZSunny!   ::HelloKitty::

Thank you!  Happy New Year and blessings to you as well in the new year.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 02, 2013, 01:52:15 AM
Thanks for the Christmas clothes, but it's time to go back to my regular look.  HAPPY NEW YEAR, MONKEYS! I hope this year is your best ever.

Love you Christmas clothes jamcakes!   ::DancingSantaMonkey1::

Happy New Year to you too!   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 02, 2013, 03:15:49 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_NY1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!   

::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 12:24:13 AM
News from Curacao

http://www.amigoe.com/curacao/141398-18-jarige-prostituee-in-campo-alegre-gewurgd

Google translation:

18 year old prostitute in Campo Alegre strangled         
WEDNESDAY, 2 JANUARY 2013 9:05
WILLEMSTAD - The Dominican eighteen year old woman Rudi Liana Perez Perez is on the eve of the new year, was found dead in one of the rooms of the Campo Alegre Resort. She was strangled. This confirms the police today.

The woman was lying on the ground with injuries to her mouth and had a scarf that is very tightly around her neck Sat First Aid Ambulance nurses to no avail, and at half past one in the night from Sunday to Monday, the police doctor the death of the young woman found.

The body is at the request of the Public Prosecutor (OM) were seized for further investigation. According to police, one can not simply assume a murder. Other scenarios are not excluded. "Therefore, a comprehensive examination, including an autopsy of great importance in this case," said police spokesman.

The police are doing further investigation in this case and is asking for the help of the population. Important tips can be reported on the numbers 866-6219, 866-6221, 866-6222, 911 or the anonymous tip line 108.
Edit fixed typo.  MB


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 12:25:21 AM
"News"   :oops:


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 12:30:30 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

Lack of money coming Neck Developer lifeguards on beaches
SUNDAY, 30 DECEMBER 2012 09:00
ORANGE CITY - Aruba still has no professional lifeguards directly can offer assistance to swimmers in distress at sea. Reason is that Aruba (yet) organization responsible ...
Read more ...

subscriber article...



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 12:34:47 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/141243-vervallen-bushiri-hotel-direct-afzetten-en-saneren-vanwege-asbestgevaar

Google translation:

'Expired Bushiri hotel directly depositing and remediation because of asbestos danger'         

SUNDAY, 30 DECEMBER 2012 09:00

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/thumbnails/images-stories-2012-12-30-2343656-350x196.jpg)
The former Bushiri hotel has not only weathered asbestos roof, but also in the walls. Pieces that are in addition to the ground.

ORANGE CITY - The expiry Bushiri hotel is a danger to the public and the environment, because some asbestos sheets in it that are quite weathered or in pieces on the ground. Not only the roof consists of the carcinogen, but also the walls. "In the Netherlands, this would be a huge problem."

By our reporter

Sharina Henriquez

At the word is Jan Horyon. He's with his family in Aruba for vacation, but a round of professional interest on the island made. He did so with knowledge Wim Schreiber, who for twelve years a case to Aruba in person protective clothing and equipment. Horyon owns the eponymous family business in Eindhoven that specializes in asbestos removal, monitoring, - transport and other issues in this area. Originally a demolition company, but he says: "So I soon came into contact with asbestos, now about 23, 24 years ago." The company has since grown ever going proficient in asbestos area, was the first company certified in this area in the Netherlands and Jan Horyon is home of the first graduate asbestos expert from Netherlands called. His business sits at the table with ministries and regularly has to deal with complex remediation problems, as is the case in the Utrecht Kanaleneiland where an entire neighborhood was evacuated after asbestos discovery this year. "We are offering homes to cleaning, but also bring together with other parties in map where it went wrong."

The world appears small: he also knows asbestos expert Heniek Heijlen TNO recently at the request of the Aruban government sent to our island. That was a quick visit in October for the asbestos problem in a number of schools including Mon Plaisir. Heijlen turns to March of this year in the service to have been Horyon.

Government responsible

But Horyon is not for his work, but for vacation. Yet he saw during a walk on the island things that him and his wife Sandrine (she also works in the company) are reminiscent of the situation that 20-25 years ago in the Netherlands took place. As therefore the former Bushiri hotel on the LG Smith Boulevard. Although there is a guard, anyone so inwardly, in his experience. "It is publicly available, people are sure to fish, I understand that there were tramps first time. What I have understood is that of the government and that this therefore responsible. Here lies exposed asbestos and it is everywhere. If here the wind blows, blowing the fibers everywhere. This is not safe. In the Netherlands, the government owner directly moons for something to do. To give an example, recently I had a private client that asbestos in his garden and there was 5000 euro fine. "

According to the specialist asbestos must first hotel in a safe situation to be able to demolish. "Let alone that you so late, that anyone can walk in it. It must be deposited as soon as possible removed. Not only the roof so, but also the walls, because they also contain asbestos. Apart from all the pieces that are on the ground. "

Horyon informed about how Aruba dealing with asbestos and that hardly anything is settled, let alone standards. He also knows that the Aruban government has argued that - apart from the refinery in San Nicolas and the water - there is no significant risk areas in terms of asbestos. "But how can you call if not even asbestos victims registered?"

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 12:47:36 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

Lack of money coming Neck Developer lifeguards on beaches
SUNDAY, 30 DECEMBER 2012 09:00
ORANGE CITY - Aruba still has no professional lifeguards directly can offer assistance to swimmers in distress at sea. Reason is that Aruba (yet) organization responsible ...
Read more ...

subscriber article...


Get out your waders for this one  ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

JMO

http://www.amigoe.com/english/141338-arrival-of-lifeguards-on-hold-due-to-lack-of-money


Arrival of lifeguards on hold due to lack of money
         

TUESDAY, 1 JANUARY 2013 12:29

ORANJESTAD — There are no professional lifeguards on Aruba to offer immediate help to swimmers in trouble because the island is yet to set up an organization that is responsible for these social workers. Statistics from the Directorate of Health show that such organization is necessary considering the number of deaths by drowning increased each year between 1998 and 2010. However, the plans are not getting off the ground due to lack of money and problems with certification.

By our reporter Mirte de Rozario

“Therefore, we argue for an Aruban institute of lifesavers that will carry the work”, said Hendrik Gabriela. Wendy Laclé and he recently obtained their bachelor in Sports, Management and Business at the Caribbean University of Aruba (CUA). One of their study included organizing an internationally recognized Open Water Life Guard Course. In their extended essay they conclude that various beaches where swimmers had been in trouble in the past lack adequate facilities to prevent death by drowning. Apparently the government and the hotels fail to take the necessary measures. “In other words, lifeguards are not always on the beach to offer people immediate help because the island is yet to decide who will pay these lifeguards and be responsible for their training and deployment.”

The need for lifeguards is substantiated by statistics from the Directorate of Health, which Gabriela and Laclé included in their extended essay. Between 1998 and 2004 the number of deaths by drowning or near drowning fluctuated between three and six. The Directorate of Health reported nine cases in 2005 and in the following three years, seven cases per year. The number of deaths by drowning dropped to four in 2009 and a remarkable peak of fourteen was registered in 2010. The statistics of 2011 and 2012 are listed in the chart from the Directorate of Health.

Old beach posts

“Although we know there were people who had needed help at sea, the locations in question Baby Beach, Mangel Halto, Arashi or Eagle still lack adequate facilities”, said Gabriela. Eagle Beach still has several old beach posts, he said. “A contractor could easily restore these.” However, these beach posts whereby social workers run into the sea ‘as in the former TV-series Baywatch’ no longer fit within the new international standard method of lifeguards, he explained. “Nowadays there’s a tower on the beach and jet ski’s in the water manned by two persons. The tower instructs the driver of the jet ski while the other person helps the victim in the water.” He also mentioned the warning signs at Baby Beach. “The government had had these signs put up quickly owing to circumstances (death by drowning in August, (editorial office)) but failed to consider the right places for the signs or the international rules as regards the warning text.” According to Gabriela, the signs were placed too far in the water, almost where someone could drown and the warming text doesn’t meet the international guidelines. “Therefore, Baby Beach doesn’t have adequate measures to prevent death by drowning.”

Finances

Money is one of the problems why the lifeguards aren’t on the beaches, said Gabriela. “The money was promised and must be made available through Aruba Marina Park Foundation but this hasn’t been done yet. Without money we can’t organize courses, find participants to follow these courses or pay them to work as professional lifeguards.”  Minister Otmar Oduber already confirmed in August that money is a problem when he stated before the Amigoe that the introduction of safety facilities on beaches is stuck due to bureaucracy. The financing of lifeguards must come from the Tourism Product Enhancement Fund (TPEF) but that still wasn’t arranged several months ago.

Certification

The responsibility of lifeguards wasn’t arranged either, according to Oduber. Gabriela and Laclé also mentioned this in their extended essay. Thanks to Aruba Hotel Security Foundation (AHSF) 24 beach guards were trained and certified in 2010, the year with the remarkable peak of fourteen deaths by drowning. However, these twenty-four were never deployed as beach guard. Gabriela explained that one can train and certify people but the latter are to keep their knowledge up to date and recertify after two years. A certified lifeguard is to swim the required number of hours and to demonstrate this.” According to Gabriela, this group of 24 beach guards is to be recertified. “Once there’s a national institute that can evaluate and recognize this certification by working together with an international organization for lifeguards, the responsibility of the lifeguards can be arranged as well.” Gabriela thinks hotels will then consider deploying lifeguards.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 01:47:35 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 07:35:14 PM
http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/57992-dos-huez-ta-keha-abogado-john-zara-riba-su-comportacion-

Papiamentu translation:

two huez is complain advocate john zara on his comportacion

wednesday, 02 january 2013 20:32

two huez at corte owing to cuestiona comportacion of advocate john zara. esey nifica cu they owing to ask castigo pe where the not can go funciona because; advocate assure in corte. this have atencion also of orden of advocate. owing to busca as of achieve john zara self because; also deken but both does not publicidad cu the asunto here. wanted trate without dune mucho atencion in media or achieve publicidad of dje. so self owing to splica both cu the news is conoci y not can go stay without publica this because they wanted as scondi or internamente. john zara owing to apela the decision of huez. the comportacion of the advocate is thing is wordo cuestiona. have various cos cu huez have very atencion pe at the momentonan here. one of they're his bufete cu is office of one sospechoso in caso of trafico illegal of person. according informacion extra oficial the sospechoso is exigi for have acceso in the file of cualkier cliente of the advocate. this is algo confidencial cual none advocate can permiti. apparently close advocate mr john zara this do not the caso. also one another situation cu is wordo cuestiona is the tratamento of one caso caminda the advocate zara owing to haci one peticion at huez. hour cu owing to deny his peticion cu the cliente in sitting-room of corte, the advocate owing to leave go y tell huez cu is they cuenta y see con they will haci cu the cliente of dje. owing to leave lagando the cliente for his cuenta close the hueznan. the type of comportacionnan here is cosnan cu today have the advocate in one situation where the have to owing to apela at conseho of supervision for her decision cu two huez of corte did take at aruba. the amistad much close cu hendenan sospechoso in casonan earnest y doubtful is still is thing can have the imagen of the advocate in the situation actual. once more have to remarca cu owing to deal of achieve the version of advocate mr john zara y deken mr dello gomez y both owing to prefera of mantene silencio on the caso. kiermen is wait for cu hour the publicacion here leave not core come cuestiona the news because owing to achieve all chens of world for can owing to give they near of medaya. the caso here assure is uno much earnest y is basa on the comportacion of the own advocate. till con far apelacion will help is algo cu in the proximo dianan we fast will hear of dje.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2013.Januari.02.john_zara.JPG)
John Zara



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 07:44:27 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/3988-local-drug-traffickers-heading-to-canada-detained-by-airport-customs.html

Local drug traffickers heading to Canada detained by Airport Customs         
Wednesday, 02 January 2013 12:56
 
Authorities arrested five Arubans heading to Toronto with drugs on an Air Canada flight over the holidays. The men and women were traveling to Canada with different suitcases with hidden compartments in which the drugs were hidden.

One woman of last name "A" was traveling with her six-year-old child. Customs also arrested one man "P" and one woman "Q", who are suspected of heading the drug trafficking ring, as well as woman "D" and a man "B".


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 08:02:31 PM
http://www.awe24.com/20130103/13072/Huescomisario_a_prolonga_detencion_di_sospechosonan_cu_kier_a_trafica_droga_pa

huescomisario owing to prolonga detencion of sospechosonan cu wanted owing to trafica drugs for canada

8 hora happen come across, 3 of january 2013 12:04

seccion: incidente

diahuebs morning huescomisario owing to revisa the documentonan of the investigacion relaciona cu the attempt of trafica drugs for canada, the sospechosonan self owing to being deteni after of owing to aborda the plane owing to present some oficial of aduana cu owing to descend the sospechosonan for of the plane y owing to detene they after of cu owing to descubri drugs in one bom false of they trunk. after of owing to revisa the documentonan the huescomisario owing to dicidi of prolonga the detencion of the 5 sospechosonan.

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13072/1_1357254942.jpg)

(I only see pictures of 3 of them)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 03, 2013, 08:08:12 PM
From the comments of a 24ora article about the arrests...no idea if the names are correct or not. 

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/57972-douane-aeropuerto-a-desmantela-banda-local-di-droga-pa-canada

 ::snipping2::

D=Dania
B=Boekhoudt
A=Arends
P=Paskel
Q=Quandt

John49    , January 02, 2013

+18


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 04, 2013, 01:23:20 AM
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/21196688/__Van_der_Eem_aangehouden__.html

Google translation

Fri January 4, 2013, 05:30
Van der Eem held by Bart Mos

(http://images0.tcdn.nl/incoming/article21196700.ece/BINARY/d/patrickvandereem.JPG)
Foto: ANP

OOSTERBEEK - The police on Monday arrested eight Patrick van der Eem. He is suspected of a spectacular break-in Oosterbeek, Gelderland. This report sources justice.

Van der Eem (39) was four years ago, famous for his role in a broadcast of Peter R. de Vries, which he in his car Joran van der Sloot with a hidden camera elicited statements about the murder of American Natalee Holloway.

In the early morning of New Year's Eve, he and two others arrested in Wageningen. Shortly before they ram raid would have committed to the ski shop Ski lodge in Oosterbeek. Earlier this year, even though a ram raid perpetrated on Skihut.
Read more in The Telegraph today.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 04, 2013, 01:47:01 AM
Just a brief clarification for the article above.

The title is "Van der Eem held"
The reporter is Bart Mos.  Mos is not holding him... ::MonkeyHaHa::

 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 04, 2013, 04:30:23 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Beth_hollowayfamilygall-550.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 04, 2013, 08:53:51 AM
Just a brief clarification for the article above.

The title is "Van der Eem held"
The reporter is Bart Mos.  Mos is not holding him... ::MonkeyHaHa::

 


Thank you for the clarification.  ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: San on January 05, 2013, 08:53:56 AM
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/21196688/__Van_der_Eem_aangehouden__.html

Google translation

Fri January 4, 2013, 05:30
Van der Eem held by Bart Mos

(http://images0.tcdn.nl/incoming/article21196700.ece/BINARY/d/patrickvandereem.JPG)
Foto: ANP

OOSTERBEEK - The police on Monday arrested eight Patrick van der Eem. He is suspected of a spectacular break-in Oosterbeek, Gelderland. This report sources justice.

Van der Eem (39) was four years ago, famous for his role in a broadcast of Peter R. de Vries, which he in his car Joran van der Sloot with a hidden camera elicited statements about the murder of American Natalee Holloway.

In the early morning of New Year's Eve, he and two others arrested in Wageningen. Shortly before they ram raid would have committed to the ski shop Ski lodge in Oosterbeek. Earlier this year, even though a ram raid perpetrated on Skihut.
Read more in The Telegraph today.


I always knew this guy was a POS.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 05, 2013, 10:20:53 AM
http://www.gelderlander.nl/algemeen/binnenland/patrick-van-der-eem-vast-voor-ramkraak-1.3591427

Patrick van der Eem fixed for ram raid '

Posted on
     January 4, 2013
last update
     04 January, 12:16

OOSTERBEEK - One of the men suspected of the ram raid clothing store in the Ski lodge in Oosterbeek in the night from Sunday to Monday, Patrick van der Eem.
 ::snipping2::

Van der Eem, who lives in Arnhem, together with a 34-year Hilver Summer and a 38-year old man from Spijk arrested at the height of Kievitsdel in Doorwerth. A witness had seen the three at half past three overnight burglaries in the Ski lodge. He called the police. At that time there were cops on the square. Who have directly in pursuit and colleagues in Wageningen warned. Who are driven to meet the suspects.

In another car, which the defendants had parked in Oosterbeek-Low, jackets and scarves are found which are stolen by the Skihut. That store was earlier this year even though the target of a ram raid.


The three suspects are still being held.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: carpe noctem on January 06, 2013, 02:28:20 AM
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/21196688/__Van_der_Eem_aangehouden__.html

Google translation

Fri January 4, 2013, 05:30
Van der Eem held by Bart Mos

(http://images0.tcdn.nl/incoming/article21196700.ece/BINARY/d/patrickvandereem.JPG)
Foto: ANP

OOSTERBEEK - The police on Monday arrested eight Patrick van der Eem. He is suspected of a spectacular break-in Oosterbeek, Gelderland. This report sources justice.

Van der Eem (39) was four years ago, famous for his role in a broadcast of Peter R. de Vries, which he in his car Joran van der Sloot with a hidden camera elicited statements about the murder of American Natalee Holloway.

In the early morning of New Year's Eve, he and two others arrested in Wageningen. Shortly before they ram raid would have committed to the ski shop Ski lodge in Oosterbeek. Earlier this year, even though a ram raid perpetrated on Skihut.
Read more in The Telegraph today.


I always knew this guy was a POS.

Yes... and the subtle tip off for me was when he rearranged his girlfriend's knee caps with a crow bar! That is one wicked dude. That was his GIRLFRIEND - just imagine what he does to people he doesn't like!!!! If he was smart, he would have made good with the Natalee story and ridden quietly off into the background. Unfortunately, stupid can't be fixed.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: carpe noctem on January 06, 2013, 03:08:29 AM
I always had a gut feeling that he got Poentje nailed. Patrick is the type of guy to wait and get it done, too. To him, imo, it is simply business.
Fixed.  MB


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: carpe noctem on January 06, 2013, 03:17:53 AM
I always had a gut feeling that he got Poentje nailed. Peter is the type of guy to wait and get it done, too. To him, imo, it is simply business.

I meant, Patrick. Not Peter!

Sincerely,

Dilbert

 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 07, 2013, 12:29:23 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/english/141488-2013-will-be-an-even-more-difficult-year

‘2013 will be an even more difficult year’       
Thursday, 3 January 2013 11:51 

ORANJESTAD — Parliamentarian Booshi Wever foresees that 2013 will be an even more difficult year. He incites the people to be alert because elections will be held this year. “The party in power together with the independent press will attempt to give a rosy picture of how things are in order to win the elections.”His message is therefore: don’t buy that and there is a serious alternative, namely UPP. Wever recently founded his party. It is unknown who is on the electoral list, apart from Wever. In his New Year’s speech, Wever looked back on the past year. According to him, 2012 had already been a difficult year for many citizens with more crime, unsafe traffic, high living costs, unemployment, lack of social attention and health care.
  ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 07, 2013, 02:27:17 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 09, 2013, 01:17:22 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-7.jpg)

   ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 09, 2013, 01:25:40 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-7.jpg)

   ::MonkeyHeart::

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 09, 2013, 08:09:51 PM
http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/58217-hoben-arubiano-di-18-ana-sefta-cu-bala-na-boston-

Papiamentu translation:

young aruban of 18 year sift cu ball at boston

wednesday, 09 january 2013 00:30

monday 2:15 of marduga police of distrito c-6 (south boston) acudi call of help for one person masculino in area 335 w. 2nd street throw in plas of blood. police owing to come achieve one man on acera cu enough injury of ball. paramediconan owing to arrive transporta the victima in ambulance for tufts medical center where dokternan only can owing to constata dead. police of boston owing to succeed identifica the victima under name of jonathan reyes of 18 year of edad. in conversacion telefonico cu recherche of boston not can owing to divulga much detayes of the caso already cu they have this under investigacion. only can owing to confirma the name, surname, edad of the victima, descripcion because; "black hispanic" y cu is deal of one homicidio. the oficial of prensa of boston police department not can owing to confirma nacionalidad. medionan local as boston herald, boston.com, fox news 25 also owing to raporta of the sucedido y is specuala much on kico exactly owing to sosode. at 2007 reyes mihor conoci because; "johnny boy" owing to cuminsa epb san nicolas but owing to achieve his self in problem of gang for cual parents owing to dicidi of mande the netherlands for mihor future. the young owing to go back bay in bad direction y cay in hand of husticia at ground frieu. recientemente owing to dicidi of muda for boston where the la achieve his dead. his amigonan of pos diminutive for live (p4l) owing to write complete message recordando the young y his aspiracion for musica rap on facebook.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1....images.stories.news.2013.Januari.08.reyes.reyes2.png)


http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/01/09/killing-south-boston-drug-related-officials-say/T7ePBJjS8T9tpjQPr9ntmO/story.html

South Boston killing was drug-related, officials say

Shot 11 times, teen victim ‘butchered’

By Maria Cramer |  GLOBE STAFF     JANUARY 09, 2013

In a neighborhood teeming with the construction of new high-end condos, residents were alarmed to hear an 18-year-old man was shot to death early Monday morning. Jonathan Reyes, who lives in South Boston, was found shot 11 times in front of a West 2nd street apartment. What appeared to be drugs were found at the scene, two officials with knowledge of the investigation. A white powdery substance was found near the body, one of the officials said.


http://www.universalhub.com/crime/20130107-man-shot-south-boston.html

Man shot to death in South Boston
By adamg - 1/7/13 - 10:40 am
UPDATE: Victim identified as Jonathan Reyes, 18, of South Boston.

Boston Police report a man was shot repeatedly outside the the Trolley House building at 335 W. 2 St. around 2:50 a.m.

 ::snipping2::

(from the comments)

I have lived on this street
By Kevin W (not verified) - 1/9/13 - 12:33 pm#9
2

I have lived on this street for 5 years and agree with the above comment. This is not at all a normal thing to occur on West Second, it is very safe and quiet aside from the occasional drunk youngster leaving the bars nearby. According to friends I know in that building, police said it may have been related to a party going on in one condo and the police continued to investigate the building all day. Witnesses saw a man and a woman come to the aid of the young man, I sure hope they were thoroughly questioned because I do not want this riff raff in my neighborhood


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 10, 2013, 03:19:34 PM
http://arubaherald.com/911/4010-aruban-youngster-murdered-in-boston.html (http://arubaherald.com/911/4010-aruban-youngster-murdered-in-boston.html)

Aruban youngster murdered in Boston

Monday around 2:15 a.m. Police in the C-6 district (South Boston) attended to a call for a man found in a puddle of blood in the area of 335 W. 2nd Street.
Police found the man on the sidewalk, badly wounded. Paramedics transported him to Tufts Medical Center, where doctors declared him dead upon arrival.

Boston police identified the victim as Jonathan Reyes (18). In a telephone conversation with Boston detectives, they could not give much detail as the case is under investigation, our sister website 24ora.com reports. Detectives would only confirm the name, last name and age of the victim and described him as being "Black Hispanic" and said that he had been murdered. Local media, including Boston Herald, Boston.com and Fox News 25 reported the murder; there was much speculation on what could have happened, but no confirmation of these statements.

In 2007 Reyes, popularly called "Johnny Boy" went to EPB San Nicolas, but after getting involved in gang related trouble, his parents sent him to The Netherlands, hoping the move off-island would give him a chance on a better future. Reyes once again got in trouble with justice and recently he decided to move from The Netherlands to Boston
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on January 10, 2013, 04:49:11 PM
At least Boston didn't hide the body and cover-up the crime like Aruba did. Sad the lad was killed.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 10, 2013, 11:19:52 PM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on January 13, 2013, 07:33:05 AM
When is the rulings on Joran's appeal and extradition due out?  It's almost been a year now that he was convicted.  Are we gonna have a Monkey party to celebrate?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 13, 2013, 07:22:05 PM
When is the rulings on Joran's appeal and extradition due out?  It's almost been a year now that he was convicted.  Are we gonna have a Monkey party to celebrate?

http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/2013/jan/13/today-history-january-13-2013-ar-5357668/

Today in History: January 13, 2013

By: ASHLEY ROBERTS | Alabama's 13
Published: January 13, 2013

 ::snipping2::

One year ago: A Peruvian court sentenced Joran van der Sloot to 28 years in prison for murdering Stephany Flores, a young woman he'd met at a Lima casino.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 13, 2013, 07:29:49 PM
When is the rulings on Joran's appeal and extradition due out?  It's almost been a year now that he was convicted.  Are we gonna have a Monkey party to celebrate?

http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/2013/jan/13/today-history-january-13-2013-ar-5357668/

Today in History: January 13, 2013

By: ASHLEY ROBERTS | Alabama's 13
Published: January 13, 2013

 ::snipping2::

One year ago: A Peruvian court sentenced Joran van der Sloot to 28 years in prison for murdering Stephany Flores, a young woman he'd met at a Lima casino.

http://peru21.pe/actualidad/ano-noticias-hechos-que-remecieron-pais-este-2012-2109591

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::

DUTCH SENTENCED TO 28 YEARS IN PRISON

( ALBERTO Orbegoso )
On January 13, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot , 25, was sentenced to 28 years in prison for killing the young student Stephany Flores. addition, the judges ordered that the murderer pay civil damages of 200,000 suns the relatives of the victim.

The alien pleaded guilty and accepted all charges to avoid a longer sentence. Recently, the U.S. government has requested his extradition for a crime he committed Van der Sloot there.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 14, 2013, 02:05:11 AM

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 15, 2013, 07:06:17 PM
https://www.facebook.com/tony.ronald.71/posts/505687822809437

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Van%20der%20Sloot/12292012_TR_FB.png)


Tony Ronald shared Textile Design and Designers Platform's photo.
December 29, 2012 at 11:49am ·

Tony Ronald Mi hermanita que vive en Aruba, en profesora de dibujo y pintura.Somos un orgullo de familia. He dicho !!!
My sister who lives in Aruba, Professor of drawing and painting.We are a family pride. I said!(Translated by Bing)
December 29, 2012 at 12:41pm · 1

Anita Hugen ohhhh, gracias hermano X
Ohhhh, thank you brother X(Translated by Bing)
December 29, 2012 at 1:52pm via mobile

Vicente Martinez Ortiz QUE SE PODÍA ESPERAR DE UN HERMANO COMO TÚ..FELIZ AÑO NUEVO QUERIDO AMIGO
THAT YOU COULD EXPECT FROM A BROTHER LIKE YOU...HAPPY NEW YEAR DEAR FRIEND(Translated by Bing)
December 29, 2012 at 5:21pm · 1


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 16, 2013, 06:18:15 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/142496-nieuwe-blik-op-dossier-poentje-castro

Google translation:

New look at file Poentje Castro         
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 16, 2013 9:31

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/thumbnails/images-stories-2013-01-16-2381362-350x225.jpg)
Chief Peter Blanken (right).

ORANGE CITY - The murder of television presenter and journalist Poentje Castro, more than two years ago, is completely re-examined. This time with a fresh view of other investigators and another prosecutor. That tells Chief Peter Blanken yesterday during a press conference at the office of the Public Prosecutor (OM).

By our reporter

Alex LACLe

"It's a difficult investigation," let the chief know. "But it is extremely important that this matter is resolved." He says that on December 12 last year has been consultation between the leadership of the Police Corps Aruba (KPA), the principal investigators and all prosecutors to see what clues there exactly in the ongoing large surveys. The case of Poentje is then discussed. It was decided to another officer or the officer had a case review to make the whole file. "We will see if there are acts of investigation or research directions that we could still perform. Where we might have read over or just from another critical look again as well to the light can be. "He explains that the review not only from the OM happened but also from the police.

On the evidence in this case in June of last year to the Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI) is sent, wants justice still little lost. The only thing that the Chief wants to share, is that the garments were. From whom these garments are and whether the investigation by the NFI was unsuccessful, about Whites would say nothing. He explains that the OM always two interests; investigative interest and truth and also the public interest. "We must also ensure that the citizenry well informed about studies freely and that any result." He says that the OM course in principle choose the investigative interest. "Because then you pass the second task, which achieve good public duty."

Murder Dorbeck

Another issue that Chief Whites briefly touches on yesterday, the unsolved murder of 67-year-old John William Dorbeck on August 10, 2010. He was 'brutal' to death in Zeewijk Cura Cabay. "Of course there is always a team to look into it, but research to date has yielded no suspects," said Whites. However, there is DNA material found on the scene of the crime scene and in that the database is stopped. But without a suspect for this material to compare, has little to justice. The Chief Reiterates its call to citizens who have more information or have seen something on August 10, 2010, to still to come forward and share information with the police.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on January 17, 2013, 12:45:52 AM
Quote from: texasmom link=topic=13363.msg 1549587#msg 1549587 date=1356806001
http://www.amigoe.com/english/141041-ahata-safety-top-priority-in-2013

[bAChata: safety top priority in 2013   [/b]      
FRIDAY, 28 DECEMBER 2012 12:26

ORANJESTAD — The safety of the residents of Aruba is the top priority in 2013, according to Fred Hoffman, chairman of Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (Eta).Hoffmann, who is also general director of the Hyatt Regency, stated this at the third general meeting of Ahata where the new Board of Commissioners for 2013 was introduced. Ahata also looked back on 2012 both financially and actively. The chairman indicated Ahata will encourage and support all initiatives in the field of safety. He is also of the opinion that every attempt to undermine the basis of the tourism industry is actually an attack on the general safety of the country. If Aruba wants to uphold its standard of life then it must protect the tourist industry. Hoffmann stated that the industry is at war with the criminal elements that threaten the safety and will therefore consider this an area for special attention in the future.

 ::snipping2::



Shouldn't the safety of the tourists be the top priority for AHATA?  They are the ones most at risk.

But I see they still openly admit they will attack any and everything that they perceive as posing any risk to their tourism industry.

They still have the cart before the horse, things totally backwards!  Haven't learned a thing, sadly enough.  Maybe some day they will get into this century and realize that if they take care of the tourists, the industry will take care of itself and flourish.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on January 17, 2013, 12:47:29 AM
When is the rulings on Joran's appeal and extradition due out?  It's almost been a year now that he was convicted.  Are we gonna have a Monkey party to celebrate?

http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/2013/jan/13/today-history-january-13-2013-ar-5357668/

Today in History: January 13, 2013

By: ASHLEY ROBERTS | Alabama's 13
Published: January 13, 2013

 ::snipping2::

One year ago: A Peruvian court sentenced Joran van der Sloot to 28 years in prison for murdering Stephany Flores, a young woman he'd met at a Lima casino.

One down--only 27 to go!


 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 17, 2013, 02:24:26 AM
When is the rulings on Joran's appeal and extradition due out?  It's almost been a year now that he was convicted.  Are we gonna have a Monkey party to celebrate?

http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/2013/jan/13/today-history-january-13-2013-ar-5357668/

Today in History: January 13, 2013

By: ASHLEY ROBERTS | Alabama's 13
Published: January 13, 2013

 ::snipping2::

One year ago: A Peruvian court sentenced Joran van der Sloot to 28 years in prison for murdering Stephany Flores, a young woman he'd met at a Lima casino.

One down--only 27 to go!


 ::MonkeyGavel::

 ::rhino::

Good to see you Anna!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 17, 2013, 02:27:40 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hjjjk556-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 18, 2013, 12:03:29 AM
One year ago, Joran was convicted and sentenced for murder...finally, some justice...directly for Stephany and indirectly for Natalee.  In 2010, during his hour of sadness and grief, Mr. Flores made a comment during an interview about Natalee...how kind and thoughtful of him...

Quote
RICARDO FLORES (Via translator): He says if that is going to give peace to Natalee and Natalee's family he doesn't mind. But he has to be like a family decision. He thinks what the family can think or feel, but that's not what the justice here can do.

I mean, he don't want like getting involved or make a judgment with the justice, what the decision of the justice is going to be here. As a family if we can help Natalee's case with something, we are going to do it. We are going to try to do everything that we can in our hands to find out.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594662,00.html
Stephany Flores's Family: 'You Cannot Describe the Pain'
Published June 15, 2010


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Post by: texasmom on January 18, 2013, 11:51:44 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/142653-behandeling-zaak-foxy-lady-opnieuw-verzet

Google translation:

Treatment case Foxy Lady again resistance         

FRIDAY, JANUARY 18, 2013 9:23

Alex Mathew and wife Liliane.

ORANGE CITY - The merits of the lawsuit against the trafficking suspect Alex Mathew and co-accused is again raised. Presumably, the case now before the court in June. That tells lawyer John Zara today Amigoe .

The treatment would actually last Wednesday. But the Public Prosecutor (OM) did know beforehand that it is again a pro forma treatment would be, because the research has not fully completed. The criminal case is now more than two years. One of the reasons for the delay is the complex nature of the suspicions and the fact that several witnesses not residing in Aruba. It takes time to gather them all to hear.

In August 2010, raids include the Foxy Lady strip club and house owner Mathew. He was also arrested and about eighteen months in custody held. In February, for judgment suspended pending hearing of the case. The case officer Lars Stempher is now no longer the Aruban prosecutor, but this case would still be complete. The prosecution had earlier this week, however, know that a colleague of his, Gert Veurink, the lawsuit continues. What exactly is the reason that Stempher no case officer more, remains unclear. When Stempher still in Aruba was, he's a time weighed down under threats to his address. He then had a period of personal security. This reportedly had to do with the lawsuit against Mathew. It was never proven to where the threats came.

Another point which the case has been delayed, is the fact that the suspects already several times a challenge have requested direction judges handling the case. One of them, a request from Liliana - wife of Mathew and also one of the co-defendants - is still ongoing. Liliana argues that the relevant magistrate biased, not objective and biased.


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Post by: texasmom on January 19, 2013, 12:30:40 AM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1022/Celebs/article/detail/3370220/2012/12/30/Nieuwslezer-Arend-Langenberg-63-overleden.dhtml

Google translation:

Newsreader Arend Langenberg (63) deceased

By: Editorial
12/30/12 - 13:22

Arend Langenberg © ANP.
Newsreader Arend Langenberg tonight deceased. That report different media. Langenberg had long been ill.

Langenberg, who was known for his characteristic dark voice, worked at the offshore station Radio Veronica, the radio news service ANP, Sky Radio and Classic FM. He was also employed at Dutch Broadcasting Production Company (NOB). On television, he served 17 years as a voiceover in the program of Peter R. de Vries. A few years ago, he participated in the TV program Star dancing on the ice. Langenberg in 2001 won the Marconi Award in the category "Best Voice". Langenberg was ill for some time. He had cancer. Sky Radio, the station where he was last employed, sent at 14:00 no news, but a statement of Sky Radio CEO Philip Alberdingk Thyme. Then quiet music plays. 

::snipping2::

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5601/TV-Radio/article/detail/3370888/2013/01/01/Peter-R-de-Vries-in-tranen-na-dood-Langenberg.dhtml

Google translation:

Peter R. de Vries in tears after death Langenberg

By: admin
01/01/13 - 22:22 Source: Buzze

Peter R. de Vries was pretty excited after the death of Arend Langenberg. The presenter responded against RTL Boulevard very emotional on the death of the newsreader.

'Eagle was just for me the voice that was linked inextricably to my program. And thus the person, "said Peter. The crime reporter shooting then filled and gets almost no word from his mouth. "This says so." 'The Netherlands is the most beautiful voice who was missing. The best voice over and the best make an Reker ', De Vries continues. "Linked to this, he was also the nicest man who was there."


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 19, 2013, 12:40:53 AM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1022/Celebs/article/detail/3370220/2012/12/30/Nieuwslezer-Arend-Langenberg-63-overleden.dhtml

Google translation:

Newsreader Arend Langenberg (63) deceased

By: Editorial
12/30/12 - 13:22

Arend Langenberg © ANP.
Newsreader Arend Langenberg tonight deceased. That report different media. Langenberg had long been ill.

Langenberg, who was known for his characteristic dark voice, worked at the offshore station Radio Veronica, the radio news service ANP, Sky Radio and Classic FM. He was also employed at Dutch Broadcasting Production Company (NOB). On television, he served 17 years as a voiceover in the program of Peter R. de Vries. A few years ago, he participated in the TV program Star dancing on the ice. Langenberg in 2001 won the Marconi Award in the category "Best Voice". Langenberg was ill for some time. He had cancer. Sky Radio, the station where he was last employed, sent at 14:00 no news, but a statement of Sky Radio CEO Philip Alberdingk Thyme. Then quiet music plays. 

::snipping2::

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5601/TV-Radio/article/detail/3370888/2013/01/01/Peter-R-de-Vries-in-tranen-na-dood-Langenberg.dhtml

Google translation:

Peter R. de Vries in tears after death Langenberg

By: admin
01/01/13 - 22:22 Source: Buzze

Peter R. de Vries was pretty excited after the death of Arend Langenberg. The presenter responded against RTL Boulevard very emotional on the death of the newsreader.

'Eagle was just for me the voice that was linked inextricably to my program. And thus the person, "said Peter. The crime reporter shooting then filled and gets almost no word from his mouth. "This says so." 'The Netherlands is the most beautiful voice who was missing. The best voice over and the best make an Reker ', De Vries continues. "Linked to this, he was also the nicest man who was there."

http://m.volkskrant.nl/photoalbum/3372176/Afscheid%20nemen%20van%20nieuwslezer%20Arend%20Langenberg.html

(http://static.m.volkskrant.nl/art-image/W480H480Q100/65/98/0003659865.jpg)


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Post by: texasmom on January 19, 2013, 01:44:10 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 19, 2013, 08:49:33 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Thank you for posting the photo of Natalee with Macy, texasmom.   ::MonkeyHeart::


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Post by: Lifesong on January 19, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
I think most who have followed Natalee's case will remember this guy...wonder what other questionable and/or illegal contracts he entered into?  He obviously didn't think the rules applied to him.  

One in particular always comes to mind when I think of this guy.  Still have to wonder about that.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=203.0

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Aruba%202/EdisonBriesen.jpg)

BRIESEN, Edison - Minister of Transportation & Tourism

From the same page...

COHEN, Stephen J.    -  American residing in Aruba. Strategic Message Design Group (SMDG) Consulting Team chairman, adviser to the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association (AHATA) and the Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force. Appeared on the Dr Phil Show in January 2006 as Aruba’s spokesperson claiming that 2 of the boys reported having sex with Natalee, and that J2K were guilty, after which he was severely reprimanded by Tourism Minister Briesen.  Has sister company to SMDG called Cohen DiLella Broadcast Group. Cohen now resides in California.



In today's news...

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/137849-ex-minister-briesen-voor-rechter-vanwege-aangaan-dubieus-miljoenencontract

Google translation:

Ex-minister for justice because Briesen engage dubious million contract         

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2012 8:15

ORANGE CITY - In the case of the American festival producer Lee Tofanelli against the Aruban government should former minister Edison Briesen (MEP) is the right answer for concluding million contracts. The contracts were signed by Briesen in conflict with the law, according to the lawyer who defends the country Aruba.

The contracts were for the organization of Aruba Music Festival where many famous music stars performed. There are several contracts with Tofanelli, the last just before the 2009 elections. The successor Briesen as Minister of Tourism, Otmar Oduber (AVP) honored this contract and refused the services of the festival producer to pay. That tells lawyer Chris Lejuez the government defends.

Oduber did this on the basis of reports by the Central Audit Department (CAD) and the Public Prosecution Service (OM) drafted. This shows that ex-Minister Briesen tender has held for the services of the movie producer while though according to the Accounting Act had been. Ministers may in this Act otherwise make an exception and based on valid reasons, no public tender for services that keep more than 1 tonne florin costs. If this is selected, the Minister must be a ministerial decision Plan with the reasons why there was no public tender was held. But that has Briesen was omitted. This all happened in seven of the eight years that the contracts were applicable.

Millions of stories

It says Lejuez, ATA has tourist office at the time, several times the then Minister of Tourism negative opinion for entering into contracts with Tofanelli. These opinions, he ignored, says the lawyer. And that is perhaps one of the motives been said Lejuez why the judge now thinks that the former minister responsible and why Briesen in January in the courtroom accountability must be accountable. The risk is also present that Briesen millions have to pay to the government now Tofanelli Country Aruba in court has summoned. The festival producer demands based on the recently signed contract is $ 3,000,000. If the court finds that the government will have to pay that amount, but also finds that Briesen in conflict with the law has acted, then the government can recover the million amount Briesen, lays out the counsel.

The ex-minister does not otherwise criminal case against him to fear. According Lejuez there is a report from the Attorney General's indication no reason to see Briesen criminal prosecution.


I always thought that Eddie Breisen was one of the crookedest of the crooks in aruba.

I wondered why the last document didn't quote Steve Cohen in that last document
from the Kalpoe Lawsuit.   I think there is even a video of him saying that two of
the three boys had admitted to having sex with Natalee.
Edit to fix quote/missing bracket.  MB

Me too.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me too.  It's not just Music Festivals...  IIRC he illegally awarded a contract for the re-development of the harbor to a Spanish company without any kind of open bid or negotiating process.

"He's so crooked he couldn't lie straight in bed."
   ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyWink::


02/12/2008
Council of Ministers of Aruba makes a decision leading Edison Briesen, Minister of Tourism & Transportation to appoint MTBS  (Maritime & Transport Business Solutions) as Project Manager to lead and direct the redevelopment of the Aruban harbor areas.

02/22/2008
E. Briesen sends a letter to Juan Manuel Trujillo in Madrid, Spain advising him of the appointment of MTBS as Project Manager of the redevelopment of Aruban harbor areas.

04/24/2008
RED (A Political Party) Reports Against Premier Nelson Oduber & Minister of Tourism and Transport Edison Briesen … Accountability, Forgery & Bribery?

Quote
“Party-leader Rudy Lampe of opposition party RED and his fellow party member Armand Hessels reported violation of the accountability act and forgery in the harbour project in Aruba against Premier Nelson Oduber (MEP) and his fellow party member Minister of Tourism and transport, Edison Briesen, with the Public Prosecutor (OM) on Monday afternoon.  According to RED, there is supposedly also bribery involved.”

05/06/2008
Edison Briesen, minister of Tourism and Transport:  We do follow the tender rules

Quote
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3440/3403011250_3cae26e22a.jpg?v=0)ORANJESTAD – “That we ignore the international tender rules of the World Trade Organization is a lie. We do follow the national rules and that goes also for the contract with MTBS”, says Tourism-minister Edison Briesen in a reaction on the reporting of RED against him and Prime Minister Nelson Oduber.

The minister lashed out at the informants in a press conference.  “Mister Rudy Lampe and Mister Armand Hessels, your time will come.  The evidence given to the Public prosecutor will also go to my lawyer; because I can also start a criminal case for slander.” Briesen explains that the government is not required to put up work to public tender. 



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Post by: texasmom on January 22, 2013, 11:58:49 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Hollowayfamilygallery-1.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 23, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
http://books.broadwayworld.com/article/Author-Elena-Ronda-Reveals-Insights-on-the-Whereabouts-of-Natalee-Holloway-20130123 (http://books.broadwayworld.com/article/Author-Elena-Ronda-Reveals-Insights-on-the-Whereabouts-of-Natalee-Holloway-20130123)

(http://images.bwwstatic.com/columnpic6/21AF396BF-066B-348A-A6BE5A66707D3E06.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

In "Not in Water nor in Sand," the author recounts how she learned facts about the disappearance of a young girl named Natalee Holloway in June 2005. Albeit being an ordinary person, who experienced both happy and troubled times, Ronda began to experience a series of extraordinary awakenings, which led her to experience visions, visitation, and revelations.

Not wanting to turn her back on the quest to seek justice for the poor victim, Ronda became involved with solving the mystery, doing everything she could to help. Nonetheless, her efforts ended up in vain after being thwarted by interventions outside of her control. "Not in Water nor in Sand" is her attempt to document everything she learned about the case, hoping that in this way, she can still take part in bringing the truth out of the darkness and into the light.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on January 23, 2013, 09:14:45 PM
http://books.broadwayworld.com/article/Author-Elena-Ronda-Reveals-Insights-on-the-Whereabouts-of-Natalee-Holloway-20130123 (http://books.broadwayworld.com/article/Author-Elena-Ronda-Reveals-Insights-on-the-Whereabouts-of-Natalee-Holloway-20130123)

(http://images.bwwstatic.com/columnpic6/21AF396BF-066B-348A-A6BE5A66707D3E06.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

In "Not in Water nor in Sand," the author recounts how she learned facts about the disappearance of a young girl named Natalee Holloway in June 2005. Albeit being an ordinary person, who experienced both happy and troubled times, Ronda began to experience a series of extraordinary awakenings, which led her to experience visions, visitation, and revelations.

Not wanting to turn her back on the quest to seek justice for the poor victim, Ronda became involved with solving the mystery, doing everything she could to help. Nonetheless, her efforts ended up in vain after being thwarted by interventions outside of her control. "Not in Water nor in Sand" is her attempt to document everything she learned about the case, hoping that in this way, she can still take part in bringing the truth out of the darkness and into the light.

 ::snipping2::

anyone know who this is??  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 23, 2013, 09:50:46 PM
I'll see if I can figure it out, lol.  Probably someone from the "old" days we all know and either love or hate.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 23, 2013, 09:56:06 PM
http://elenaronda.com/author.html (http://elenaronda.com/author.html)

Elena Ronda is the oldest of four children. They are originally from Puerto Rico. At the age of three, her mother moved to the state of New Jersey where she was raised. She is the mother of two daughters and four grandchildren. She lived in the state of New Jersey during most of her childhood and adult life. She has been in Jacksonville, Florida for the past twenty years.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 23, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
Shango?  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: San on January 23, 2013, 10:03:04 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: cadillac on January 23, 2013, 11:07:22 PM
Maybe she is related to that lady who has Joran's back ?  What is her name?  Mary?  That is funding him? 

Trying to make a buck...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 24, 2013, 12:01:07 AM
Maybe she is related to that lady who has Joran's back ?  What is her name?  Mary?  That is funding him? 

Trying to make a buck...

Yeah could be.  One thing I know for sure, I'm not buying her book  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on January 24, 2013, 12:22:18 AM
Shango?  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 24, 2013, 12:47:54 AM
Seriously though, I haven't found where anyone by that name or similar name has ever been a member of SM nor a member of RU.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Tibrogargan on January 24, 2013, 05:09:59 AM
Shango?  ::MonkeyDevil::


This is the funniest comment I have seen for some time.   Good one Klaas

 ::koaladancing::


.....and I see on page 2 in the excerpt from her book that she has a friend assisting or co-writing the book with her.  No name.....  could it be one of the many faces of CLW?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on January 24, 2013, 08:48:16 AM
Shango?  ::MonkeyDevil::

Now that's funny right there!!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 24, 2013, 09:09:21 AM
Shango?  ::MonkeyDevil::


This is the funniest comment I have seen for some time.   Good one Klaas

 ::koaladancing::


.....and I see on page 2 in the excerpt from her book that she has a friend assisting or co-writing the book with her.  No name.....  could it be one of the many faces of CLW?

Hadn't thought of that, you are so right!   :rendeer:


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 24, 2013, 07:18:49 PM
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/sample/read/9781479729517

From the "acknowledgements" her friend "Migdalia" helped her with the book.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 24, 2013, 07:43:03 PM
https://www.google.com/search?

(Searched migdalia+natalee holloway)

Not in Water nor in Sand - Scribd
www.scribd.com/doc/114191410/Not-in-Water-nor-in-SandShareNov 23, 2012 – Migdalia. who gave his life for the salvation of many. for believing and .... of all. it was clear to me that Natalee Holloway was buried in a house.

Not in Water nor in Sand - Scribd
www.scribd.com/doc/114191401/Not-in-Water-nor-in-SandNov 23, 2012 – This was the very first time that I had seen the news about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. and as He showed me the floor. was ...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 24, 2013, 07:45:53 PM
Timing is interesting, if that's the revelation.

jmo

 ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on January 24, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
I noted this is a post by someone with that same first name of Ronda. This is from my old copy of posts from the old Natalee Holloway site back in 2005. I wonder if it is a co inky dink

Notes of encouragement and reports of prayers may be e-mailed to Natalee’s family through Sheridan Hills Baptist Church at prayer@elevate.cc.
This woman is a mother who had a daughter on the trip and friends with Natalee: I also think she is arbeej @ yahoo.com
And maybe RONDA at nataleeholloway site


from a list of members of the Natalee Holloway site:I noted that the same name was a member there back in 2005


Ronda70: 35, married at 29, first child born in Dec pre mature.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on January 24, 2013, 09:47:44 PM
May God Bless You And Your Family.
Posted by: Ronda Williams | Thursday, July 07, 2005 at 10:58 PM


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on January 24, 2013, 09:58:09 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/ld25y.jpg)





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 25, 2013, 12:48:58 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on January 25, 2013, 01:33:36 AM
 ::rhino:: NOTHING gets by here!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: AZSunny on January 25, 2013, 07:20:55 PM
::rhino:: NOTHING gets by here!!

LOL Wreck, i was just thinking it is starting to feel like 2005 again. One name and we all hit the search button!  ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 25, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
::rhino:: NOTHING gets by here!!

LOL Wreck, i was just thinking it is starting to feel like 2005 again. One name and we all hit the search button!  ::justice2NJ::

Yes, it's true!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool::

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on January 26, 2013, 11:53:35 AM
 ::boxingjoran::

There are 2 new articles just hours old about Joran on Google News Search.  I couldn't get them translated.

Here is one of the links:

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2013/01/politiepatrouilles_bij_hoofdsc.html

If someone could get them and translate them I would certainly appreciate iy.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 26, 2013, 12:01:41 PM
::boxingjoran::

There are 2 new articles just hours old about Joran on Google News Search.  I couldn't get them translated.

Here is one of the links:

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2013/01/politiepatrouilles_bij_hoofdsc.html

If someone could get them and translate them I would certainly appreciate iy.

Thanks.

The article is not about Joran, but he was mentioned in the comments...

http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2013/01/politiepatrouilles_bij_hoofdsc.html

Google translation:

Headline:

26 JANUARY 2013-09:59
HEAD SCHOPPERS PROTECTED BY POLICE
# EINDHOVEN
Police in Belgium Turnhout preventive patrols in the homes of five main troublemakers.

 ::snipping2::

From the comments:

 ::snipping2::

We live in a class society where wealthy parents have more influence than poor parents. If those guys had come from Osdorp than had they themselves may choose and they had not been given police protection. Like that Joran van der Sloot time, which was all the time the hand above the head.
Osdorpertje | 26/01/13 | 10:38 | not ok!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on January 26, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
Thank you TexasMom. That was quick on your part.

I was hoping it was some news about his appeal.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 26, 2013, 09:52:40 PM
Thank you TexasMom. That was quick on your part.

I was hoping it was some news about his appeal.

You're welcome!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 27, 2013, 12:33:47 PM
Here we go again--but unconfirmed.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://trome.pe/actualidad/1528888/noticia-joran-van-der-sloot-se-casara-piedrasgordas

Google translation

Joran Van der Sloot will marry in 'fat Stones'
The Dutch would be accelerating procedures for Peruvian civil union with girlfriend.
Sunday January 27, 2013 - 09:50
By: T. Walls

Sources of criminal "Stones fat" in Ancon, revealed that the Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot is moving expeditiously to marry this summer, with his girlfriend Peruvian.

The Dutchman, condemned to 28 years in prison for killing Stephany Flores, processed last December with the prison social worker, a marriage application to marry Leydi Figueroa, she would be the mother of his first child, whom he met when he was held in prison "Miguel Castro Castro".

"They are waiting for you to tell the housekeeper, he (Joran) would be soon, now in February, but that will depend on the paperwork. Authorities would Ancon, who would come to marry them, "said our source.

It also emerged that every Friday, the alien is visited by his beloved, who strives to serve you and engreírlo.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 27, 2013, 01:42:09 PM
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/01_januari/27/binnenland/joran_van_der_sloot_treft_voorbereidingen_huwelijk_trouwen.xml

Google translation

January 27, 2013, 18:57
Joran van der Sloot prepares for wedding

Van der Sloot sits in the Peruvian prison Piedras Gordas' a sentence of 28 years for the murder of Stephany Flores. In prison in Lima he met Leidy (23) with whom he has been more than two years in a relationship.

[/b]According Leidy, Van der Sloot in arranging the papers help from the Dutch embassy, but that is not confirmed[/b]. Joran's girlfriend hopes that the marriage can take place in February. Presumably the procedure takes more time.

"Joran has changed '
 
Leidy's weekly visit to Joran, usually on Fridays. In the proposed marriage maximum of four guests' presence. Messages in Peruvian media that Leidy even a child with Joran, she does not confirm. She says the criminal history of Joran to know, but he would "really changed" and "they love each other very much." Earlier there were even reports that Joran would get married, but that was then dismissed as 'a joke'. The plans are now seriously, says Joran girlfriend.
 
Peruvian media reported that Van der Sloot at a wedding Peruvian nationality would get. That would be a possible extradition to the U.S. more difficult.  ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on January 27, 2013, 02:35:55 PM
 ::boxingjoran::

I hope Leidy and he don't have children. Grrrrrrrrr.....!!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 27, 2013, 03:20:15 PM
::boxingjoran::

I hope Leidy and he don't have children. Grrrrrrrrr.....!!!

She's the one he supposedly already had one with, and another on the way!

That is, if you believe all the BS.   ::MonkeyWink::

I don't believe it, and it will take a lot to convince me otherwise.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

jmo


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 27, 2013, 07:10:14 PM
You would think that the Peruvian and Dutch media would confirm the news with his lawyer before publishing the same kind of news again...just sayin'  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/3014533/joran-van-sloot-gaat-trouwen.html

"Joran van der Sloot is getting married '
published:  January 27, 2013 7:59 p.m.
Last update:  January 27, 2013 8:04 p.m.

 ::snipping2::
In July surfaced even messages that Van der Sloot would get married, but his lawyer Maximo Altez exploded later. The plans are now seriously, says Joran girlfriend RTL.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 28, 2013, 02:18:33 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!


 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Sister on January 28, 2013, 12:55:24 PM
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/01_januari/27/binnenland/joran_van_der_sloot_treft_voorbereidingen_huwelijk_trouwen.xml

Google translation

January 27, 2013, 18:57
Joran van der Sloot prepares for wedding

Van der Sloot sits in the Peruvian prison Piedras Gordas' a sentence of 28 years for the murder of Stephany Flores. In prison in Lima he met Leidy (23) with whom he has been more than two years in a relationship.

[/b]According Leidy, Van der Sloot in arranging the papers help from the Dutch embassy, but that is not confirmed[/b]. Joran's girlfriend hopes that the marriage can take place in February. Presumably the procedure takes more time.

"Joran has changed '
 
Leidy's weekly visit to Joran, usually on Fridays. In the proposed marriage maximum of four guests' presence. Messages in Peruvian media that Leidy even a child with Joran, she does not confirm. She says the criminal history of Joran to know, but he would "really changed" and "they love each other very much." Earlier there were even reports that Joran would get married, but that was then dismissed as 'a joke'. The plans are now seriously, says Joran girlfriend.
 
Peruvian media reported that Van der Sloot at a wedding Peruvian nationality would get. That would be a possible extradition to the U.S. more difficult.  ::snipping2::

BBM
If he has changed, then I am a tall, natural blonde, with lots of money and big bozooms.  Not happening!
 ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Buckeye on January 28, 2013, 06:46:04 PM
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/01_januari/27/binnenland/joran_van_der_sloot_treft_voorbereidingen_huwelijk_trouwen.xml

Google translation

January 27, 2013, 18:57
Joran van der Sloot prepares for wedding

Van der Sloot sits in the Peruvian prison Piedras Gordas' a sentence of 28 years for the murder of Stephany Flores. In prison in Lima he met Leidy (23) with whom he has been more than two years in a relationship.

[/b]According Leidy, Van der Sloot in arranging the papers help from the Dutch embassy, but that is not confirmed[/b]. Joran's girlfriend hopes that the marriage can take place in February. Presumably the procedure takes more time.

"Joran has changed '
 
Leidy's weekly visit to Joran, usually on Fridays. In the proposed marriage maximum of four guests' presence. Messages in Peruvian media that Leidy even a child with Joran, she does not confirm. She says the criminal history of Joran to know, but he would "really changed" and "they love each other very much." Earlier there were even reports that Joran would get married, but that was then dismissed as 'a joke'. The plans are now seriously, says Joran girlfriend.
 
Peruvian media reported that Van der Sloot at a wedding Peruvian nationality would get. That would be a possible extradition to the U.S. more difficult.  ::snipping2::

BBM
If he has changed, then I am a tall, natural blonde, with lots of money and big bozooms.  Not happening!
 ::boxingjoran::

And...I am your sister.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 28, 2013, 09:56:38 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: SuzieQ on January 28, 2013, 10:24:28 PM
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/01_januari/27/binnenland/joran_van_der_sloot_treft_voorbereidingen_huwelijk_trouwen.xml

Google translation

January 27, 2013, 18:57
Joran van der Sloot prepares for wedding

Van der Sloot sits in the Peruvian prison Piedras Gordas' a sentence of 28 years for the murder of Stephany Flores. In prison in Lima he met Leidy (23) with whom he has been more than two years in a relationship.

[/b]According Leidy, Van der Sloot in arranging the papers help from the Dutch embassy, but that is not confirmed[/b]. Joran's girlfriend hopes that the marriage can take place in February. Presumably the procedure takes more time.

"Joran has changed '
 
Leidy's weekly visit to Joran, usually on Fridays. In the proposed marriage maximum of four guests' presence. Messages in Peruvian media that Leidy even a child with Joran, she does not confirm. She says the criminal history of Joran to know, but he would "really changed" and "they love each other very much." Earlier there were even reports that Joran would get married, but that was then dismissed as 'a joke'. The plans are now seriously, says Joran girlfriend.
 
Peruvian media reported that Van der Sloot at a wedding Peruvian nationality would get. That would be a possible extradition to the U.S. more difficult.  ::snipping2::

BBM
If he has changed, then I am a tall, natural blonde, with lots of money and big bozooms.  Not happening!
 ::boxingjoran::



And 21 years old.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 29, 2013, 06:21:37 PM
http://www.formulatv.com/noticias/29118/crimen-e-investigacion-estrena-martes-sin-pistas-con-beth-holloway/

Google translation (Spanish to English)

DOCUMENTARY SERIES
Crime & Investigation premieres 'No tracks with Beth Holloway'
The series tells the story of a mother who has had to deal with the death of his daughter. Jan. 28, 2013.

The channel Crime & Investigation premieres this Tuesday, January 29th, at 23:00 ' No tracks with Beth Holloway 'documentary series that tells the story of Beth Holloway, a mother who has had to face a tough test: disappearance and death of her daughter. Holloway is not ready to stay home torn by anguish, and has decided to undertake a long journey to meet other families and victims of tragedies such as trying to find the man who killed her daughter, Natalee Holloway. Throughout the different chapters delve into the stories of families victimized by mysterious abductions and unspeakable crimes.

(http://www.formulatv.com/images/noticias/29100/29118/1.jpg)

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on January 30, 2013, 01:47:12 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 30, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
More drama...Act Two  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.elsevier.nl/Nederland/nieuws/2013/1/Van-der-Sloot-boos-vanwege-leugens-op-Peruaanse-site-1161411W/

Google translation

'Van der Sloot angry because lies on Peruvian site '
January 30, 2013

Joran van der Sloot is angry that the Peruvian site Trome spreading lies about him. The site has been reported several times that he has a child with his girlfriend Leidy, but that do not make sense.

Writes that Van der Sloot in a letter which is owned by RTL News. "I am for freedom of press but pure lies go too far."
 
child
The family of his girlfriend dies according to the Dutch under the lies and it therefore requires a correction. If the website did not agree, Van der Sloot must file a claim.
 
The friend of Van der Sloot has a child by another man, stands in a letter. The two are planning to get married soon. They already have two year relationship.
 
 ::snipping2::  The Peruvian trome.pe website has reported over a year ago that Van der Sloot father would be, but the messages were then dismissed as gossip.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on January 30, 2013, 04:39:05 PM
More drama...Act Two  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.elsevier.nl/Nederland/nieuws/2013/1/Van-der-Sloot-boos-vanwege-leugens-op-Peruaanse-site-1161411W/

I think Joran loves to be in the press, good or bad.  Plus, when did he develop a sense of right and wrong?  When he fell in love?  Puh-leeze!!!

 ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on January 30, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
ANYTHING to get his name in the news IMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on January 31, 2013, 01:19:23 PM
Count me in with the opinions expressed by Klaas and Jamcakes, too!

Joran is so narcissistic that he risked the attention he craves even to the point of throwing away the gift of freedom that Aruba gave him. Remember those interviews he did from Thailand with Greta? Some of that stuff was about money, but Joran could never just accept that a low profile and silence was his best bet. I think that "thinking" is a natural pairing with beating to death young girls, and killing a pet. It's all about Joran and that's so encompassing, there is no room for empathy toward anyone else. No one else matters.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 31, 2013, 02:03:11 PM
Video at link

http://www.americatv.com.pe/portal/noticias/actualidad/polic-intervino-prost-bulo-clandestino-que-funcionaba-bajo-la-fachada-de-hotel-en-miraflores-2

Google translation

Thursday, January 31, 2013 | 6:43 a.m.
Police intervened illegal brothel operating under the facade of hotel in Miraflores

Unit against Trafficking Police captured two Chinese nationals accused of running a clandestine brothel. Under the guise of a work-house hotel located in block 61 of the Paseo de la República. The same where 2 years ago was found dead Stephany Flores who was killed by Joran Andreas Petrus van der Sloot.

The Chinese had entered the country as tourists five months ago. In the room he found several young women waiting for customers, they were taken to the headquarters of the Dirincri for investigations.  ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on January 31, 2013, 05:48:25 PM
Hmmm... The "rumors" of the wedding/children drama seems to have come to an end--for now.  He must be bored in prison as he awaits the ruling by the judges of his appeal.  ::MonkeyCool::   jmo

http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/738256/vriendin_joran_van_der_sloot__ik_ga_niet_trouwen

Google translation

"Girlfriend" Joran van der Sloot: I'm not married
Published on Thursday, January 31, 2013 at 10:37:16 p.m

(AP) - Leidy Figueroa, the alleged Peruvian girlfriend of Joran van der Sloot will not marry him. That allows them to Reuters News know. Van der Sloot's lawyer Máximo Altez, states in response that there is no question of an upcoming wedding.

"The Peruvian press writes many lies. I draw me nothing more," says the 23-year-old Figueroa in response to a recent announcement of a marriage between her and Van der Sloot. In different media were already such rumors, but Saturday reported the Peruvian site Trome that marriage is really imminent.

The Dutchman would also have a child with Figueroa, but also denies them. Her son would have a different father. However, the woman says Van der Sloot to know, but how exactly their relationship is put together would not say. Previously showed Figueroa to Peruvian media that they Van der Sloot in the Miguel Castro Castro Prison, where he was attached, has to know. They went there to visit someone else.

According to his lawyer, Van der Sloot sent a letter to the site, in which he asks for a rectification of an article stating that Figueroa a child from him. "I do not understand why there is so much interest in the life of Van der Sloot. He is a man like all others. The press follows him only," says Figueroa.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blonde on February 01, 2013, 03:47:14 PM
http://www.formulatv.com/noticias/29118/crimen-e-investigacion-estrena-martes-sin-pistas-con-beth-holloway/

Google translation (Spanish to English)

DOCUMENTARY SERIES
Crime & Investigation premieres 'No tracks with Beth Holloway'
The series tells the story of a mother who has had to deal with the death of his daughter. Jan. 28, 2013.

The channel Crime & Investigation premieres this Tuesday, January 29th, at 23:00 ' No tracks with Beth Holloway 'documentary series that tells the story of Beth Holloway, a mother who has had to face a tough test: disappearance and death of her daughter. Holloway is not ready to stay home torn by anguish, and has decided to undertake a long journey to meet other families and victims of tragedies such as trying to find the man who killed her daughter, Natalee Holloway. Throughout the different chapters delve into the stories of families victimized by mysterious abductions and unspeakable crimes.

(http://www.formulatv.com/images/noticias/29100/29118/1.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

 Beth looks Wonderful !!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 01:12:12 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blonde on February 02, 2013, 03:28:58 PM
http://www.formulatv.com/noticias/29118/crimen-e-investigacion-estrena-martes-sin-pistas-con-beth-holloway/

Google translation (Spanish to English)

DOCUMENTARY SERIES
Crime & Investigation premieres 'No tracks with Beth Holloway'
The series tells the story of a mother who has had to deal with the death of his daughter. Jan. 28, 2013.

The channel Crime & Investigation premieres this Tuesday, January 29th, at 23:00 ' No tracks with Beth Holloway 'documentary series that tells the story of Beth Holloway, a mother who has had to face a tough test: disappearance and death of her daughter. Holloway is not ready to stay home torn by anguish, and has decided to undertake a long journey to meet other families and victims of tragedies such as trying to find the man who killed her daughter, Natalee Holloway. Throughout the different chapters delve into the stories of families victimized by mysterious abductions and unspeakable crimes.

(http://www.formulatv.com/images/noticias/29100/29118/1.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

 Beth looks Wonderful !!
That is not Beth looked to fast


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Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 03:48:26 PM
http://www.formulatv.com/noticias/29118/crimen-e-investigacion-estrena-martes-sin-pistas-con-beth-holloway/

Google translation (Spanish to English)

DOCUMENTARY SERIES
Crime & Investigation premieres 'No tracks with Beth Holloway'
The series tells the story of a mother who has had to deal with the death of his daughter. Jan. 28, 2013.

The channel Crime & Investigation premieres this Tuesday, January 29th, at 23:00 ' No tracks with Beth Holloway 'documentary series that tells the story of Beth Holloway, a mother who has had to face a tough test: disappearance and death of her daughter. Holloway is not ready to stay home torn by anguish, and has decided to undertake a long journey to meet other families and victims of tragedies such as trying to find the man who killed her daughter, Natalee Holloway. Throughout the different chapters delve into the stories of families victimized by mysterious abductions and unspeakable crimes.

(http://www.formulatv.com/images/noticias/29100/29118/1.jpg)

 ::snipping2::

 Beth looks Wonderful !!
That is not Beth looked to fast

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Looks like Beth to me.

Here's another one I found, that looks like the same shot imo.

(http://img.getglue.com/tv_shows/vanished_with_beth_holloway/medium.jpg)

http://img.getglue.com/tv_shows/vanished_with_beth_holloway/medium.jpg


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Post by: klaasend on February 02, 2013, 05:24:21 PM
It's Beth - just overly retouched photo IMO.  She does look good!

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/medium_zpscf820659.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 08:03:17 PM
It's Beth - just overly retouched photo IMO.  She does look good!

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/medium_zpscf820659.jpg)

Yes, she does!  Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::


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Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 08:06:28 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/143934-veertien-mensen-aangehouden-overval-professioneel-en-goed-georganiseerd

Google translation:

Fourteen people were arrested, robbery 'professional and well organized "         
SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2013 9:29

ORANGE CITY - Fourteen people, men and women of Venezuelan and Aruban descent, tonight arrested in connection with the robbery of the bank branch of Royal Bank of Canada (RBC) in Palm Beach. When armed robbery which also was shot, would almost 100,000 florins were captured. The police would not confirm the amount, but said that some of the money was recovered.

By our reporter

Sharina Henriquez

The police organized a press conference this afternoon about this robbery. Superintendent Dolfi Richardson said there at the matter "99 percent" is solved, partly because the police immediately after the robbery lot of tips from the community and was quickly arrests could perform. The investigation is ongoing and police close more arrests not. Richardson also said that the Corps was tipped that "something big" was going to happen, but they knew not that it was a robbery. Afterwards, the police concluded that the robbery 'professional and well organized. "

The attack has led to much controversy. All banks closed yesterday afternoon as a precaution ahead of their doors. This is also an agreement that the banks with the police has made. If the security of a bank is in danger, all banks precaution close. That happened yesterday afternoon also. "Nobody" by the police could go home without results were in the form of arrests, said police chief Dolfi Richardson tonight. There was complied therewith, whereby the chief with "great satisfaction" on his staff around midnight could say that there are at least ten suspects were caught in the collar. The study was not stopped and there were certainly more arrests followed.

The arrests followed after four raids in homes, including in North and in Paradera. According to chief detective Vanessa Kock are taking several items and also vehicles seized that strongly indicate involvement in the robbery. Weapons and money were found. In the next attack would with hand weapons also with a big gun shot, but wanted the police during the press conference this afternoon confirm. It is not confirmed that for three robbers who would staff and customers forced to lie on the floor yesterday afternoon at one o'clock in the afternoon. During their flight would also be shot outside, in the study because several sleeves in on the ground found.

Landsrecherche

Moreover, the police during the arrests also fired a shot. The ball ended up in a car where people were sitting. These people were nothing to do with the robbery to have. The Land Investigation will investigate this shot, which is common in shootings of police, told the Deputy Attorney-General this afternoon at the press conference was present.

Comment Dowers

Justice Minister Arthur Dowers (AVP) has been in the press reacted to the incident. He says to be happy with the quick arrests and praised the police. At the same time he warns that people from abroad are welcome here, but it should behave themselves. The minister would refer to the origin of a number of suspects. He also says that in such cases the public prosecutor for high punishment goes. The minister also said that she hoped that a severe punishment. Furthermore he appeals to parents and others in the community to take responsibility and to guide the youth. "This can only by itself a good example and there are many who do not." Dowers moreover expressed its concern about this kind of 'activity' where people apparently here in Aruba doing. The Justice Minister is under pressure for some time due to the increasing sense of insecurity. This pressure comes not only from politics, but also from industry.


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Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 08:53:46 PM
http://www.versgeperst.com/nieuws/194580/man-vermist-op-zee-nabij-aruba.html

Google translation:

Man lost at sea near Aruba

31/01/2013 5:57 p.m. | Caribbean , NEWS | Leoni Leidel-Schenk

CURACAO - A man is since yesterday morning at sea Near Aruba missing. The Caribbean Coast Guard performs an extensive search in cooperation with the Aruba Police Force and the Venezuelan Coast Guard.

The Rescue and Coordination Centre (RCC) of the Coast Guard received yesterday morning a message inside of a pleasure craft without fuel at sea was getting stuck south of the Valero refinery in Aruba. In a second report gave the person on his white speedboat called "Let the Flie fly water made.

Search

the Support Centre Coast Guard on Aruba as soon as possible a super-RHIB sent to the location to assist. Extensive search for the vessel and the crew with support from the helicopter of the KPA, but without result. In the afternoon is also an aircraft of the Coast Guard, the Dash 8, ascended to assist in the search.

Search Plan

Based on the current and wind by the RCC a search plan where any swimmer may be located. During the last night and today several units including the cutter Panther Dash-8 and the Coast Guard actively exploring sea. In the area of responsibility of neighboring Venezuela is also wanted by sailing and flying units of the Venezuelan Coast Guard. To date, there is unfortunately no result.


No mention of a person from the boat being missing in this article?   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyRoll::


http://www.awe24.com/20130130/13373/Buskeda_grandi_riba_lama_pa_e_boto_Let_the_fly_fly_tempran_a_drenta_informe

Papiamentu translation:

buskeda big on lama for her boat "let the fly fly" early owing to enter informe cu the boat will owing to sink pazuid of valero

3 day happen come across,

30 of january 2013 10:56 seccion: incidente

diaranzon morning owing to enter informe of cu will have one boat cu problem pazuid of valero, at once owing to dirigi the helicopter because; also kustwacht at the sitio. at instant cu the helicopter was fly at the area menciona not owing to succeed see none boat. after owing to enter one another informe of cu the person abordo of the boat owing to raporta cu the boat owing to fill cu water y owing to sink while the tripulante owing to bay at the cay fast valero. the helicopter together cu kustwacht owing to rondia full the area but not owing to succeed encontre. is deal here of the boat "let the fly fly" cu the matricula a-880 y the unique tripulante g.l.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/59193-guarda-costa-di-venezuela-y-aruba-a-busca-buskeda-henter-diahuebs-tabata-envano-pa-boto-qlet-the-fly-flyq

Papiamentu translation:

guarda costa of venezuela y aruba owing to busca: buskeda all diahuebs was envano for boat "let the fly fly"

thursday, 31 january 2013 21:56

diahuebs first cu sun owing to leave the buskeda owing to cuminsa for her boat "let the fly fly" cu registracion a-880. the boat here owing to beat alarma at 911 at instant cu the engine will owing to pay on lama. according gio leer cu owing to calling owing to splica cu the is just pazuid of rif of refineria valero. for hour cu owing to saca unidadnan for of kustwacht already end not owing to come across nothing. niether was have one pocision exact of the boat. more bien past owing to splica of is pazuid of the rif of the refineria. thing his gio leer owing to let know via telephone was cu the boat was pasando water y after one another call cu the was sink. all diaranzon owing to busca but nothing. all diahuebs owing to busca y here niether owing to come across cu cualkier sign of the boat or gio leer self. diahuebs the buskeda owing to cuminsa for of algo happen of 6or of morning cu plane of kustwacht. the area more pabao they owing to cuminsa cu they buskeda come direccion east. after panter cu his cutter was busca in the area part pazuid go direccion pabao. niether owing to come across cu algo on lama. for of kustwacht his base owing to leave the superrhib cu owing to busca at the bocanan for girl if can see sign of the boat. here niether owing to come across algo. also was have some boat local cu owing to leave as for pisca or another y all owing to tell cu they will throw view on the boat perdi. for of venezuela owing to leave two patruyero. also one plane of guarda costa venezolano owing to leave busca in the espacio venezolano same the gaurda costa venezolano cu owing to busca in the awanan teritorial of venezuela. finalmente none embarcacion owing to come across cu algo. diabierna is intencion of go back lever lama for follow cu the buskeda. embarcacionnan of guarda costa of venezuela y colombia also owing to let know of will help in the buskeda of diabierna. the speranza of the family y amigonan is for come across cu gio leer still.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/59115-boto-qlet-the-fly-flyq-y-tripulante-perdi-na-cabez-di-aruba-oazuid-di-valero-

Papiamentu translation:

boat "let the fly fly" y tripulante perdi at cabez of aruba pazuid of valero

wednesday, 30 january 2013 17:54

various medling owing to enter via alarm centrale for problem cu the boat "let the fly fly" cu registracion a-880 y cu giorino leer abordo. what the was haci pazuid of refineria valero still do not conoci. the melding owing to enter at first instant at centro of alarma via 911 for 9or y 40 of morning. for 9or y 50 already end kustwacht was at height y owing to succeed achieve contacto cu the person giorino leer abordo of the boat. the first melding was cu the boat his engine owing to pay because gasolene owing to end. is deal of one boat color blanco much plat cu is being using in the area of beachnan for sport aquatico. all the time for 10:13 of morning owing to calling bek at 911 y tell cu the boat owing to cuminsa happen water. kustwacht owing to leave at once for go in the direccion of the boat cu seems was some mile far pazuid of rifnan of valero. for 10:26 owing to enter the melding cu the boat owing to cuminsa sink. djey not owing to achieve contacto more cu the person. the buskeda if owing to cuminsa y till cu diaranzon nightfall late nothing of boat y niether the person. police, kustwacht, sarfa, helicoter y plane owing to join the buskeda. also some conoci owing to join the buskeda here have result. the contacto cu the person not tey more y this is haci the situation dificil. mirando cu the boat is of fiber is asumi cu the not owing to go fondo. esey is haci more facil for buskeda. but so self none sign. pocision exact niether have of the boat y is more bien busca owing to base of informacion cu owing to enter encuanto pazuid of rif. giorino leer not owing to tell niether if the have more person abordo cune.

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2013.Januari.30.giorino.35628_10150345121035254_7907794_n.jpg)

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2013.Januari.30.giorino.546180_10151718505195254_329382332_n.jpg)


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Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 09:06:03 PM
Someone told them he was in Panama?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.boletinextra.com/no-a-haya-giorino-leer-na-panama/

Papiamentu translation:

not owing to achieve giorino leer at panama

written by bulletin on february 2, 2013.

posted in local

in hour of morning we redaccion owing to wordo aserca for family of the young leer cu owing to tell cu they not owing to achieve the brother at panama. apparently they can owing to achieve one mericano, but do not giorino leer. buskeda will cuminza imediatamente again for her young perdi already for some day upstairs lama. according one another medio of prensa, they owing to sostene conversacion cu the mother, that owing to give the informe here of one call, but cual after owing to resulta in one type of bad informacion or till even one bad joke. the news here is decepciona much of the famianan y amigonan, kendenan owing to feel gladness hour cu owing to achieve the young here. buskeda will follow now for giorino leer, that 3 day happen owing to meld via 911, cu the is near pafo of valero, where his boat is sink y the will swim bay rif. helicopter owing to tell cu they owing to bay at once y not owing to waak nothing. also have one storia cu is tell cu helicopter owing to waak two speedboat stop near of another, one of they cu engine open, but helicopter not owing to happen the informacion here door more early. another fountain is tell also cu instancianan not owing to haci they maximo attempt upstairs the day here y till even cu owing to stop the buskeda already first cu sun owing to bay water.

(http://www.boletinextra.com/wp-content/uploads/giorino-leer.jpg?bb7ee4)


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Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
http://masnoticia.com/rina-geerman-mama-di-giorino-leer-ta-lamenta-e-yamada-falso/

Papiamentu translation:

rina geerman mother of giorino leer is lamenta the call false

02 feb, 2013

saturday afternoon redaccion of masnoticia.com owing to combersa cu sr. rina geerman cu is mother of giorino leer cu is keto bay perdi. masnoticia.com also was follow the buskeda here of close where for dianan amistad y family was at pier for lever lama y was close of the family hour cu the supuesto call owing to enter for of panama. sra. rina geerman in the combersacion owing to comenta cu the is lamenta so much con hendenan can haci one joke so cruel y give we the speranza cu his child owing to wordo achieve y this not was berdad. sr. rina geerman owing to tell in the call telefonico cu they owing to celebra this after of was in diana of tristesa for achieve the notifica positive here y all the time this not was berdad. this owing to haci cu famianan owing to send bc rond cu owing to encontra cu giorino at panama where all family owing to come across y uni for haci preparacion for bay panama. sra. rina geerman after of owing to ricibi the informacion owing to tell cu ela calling minister president of aruba y cual they owing to haci they work y haci call y not had none informacion concreto of the caso here. sra. rina geerman owing to tell cu the buskeda is follow where kustwacht owing to tell family for haci the buskeda here via avioneta where the territory cu have to wordo cubri cu one boat are you gastando much fuel y inecesariamente y life of person at danger. intencion of family is on the part aereo where have cooperacion of venezuela, colombia y panama. locual is the enbarcacion cu have afo is at height of the buskeda here. at ultimo sra rina geerman owing to comenta cu the vuelo will arise saturday nightfall y will arise vuelo y do not stop for her buskeda here till hour cu encontra cu giorino leer.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
https://www.facebook.com/giorino.leer?group_id=0

Wondering if he works for Jolly Pirates?

Look who one of his friends is...same Daury?

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2008/02/daury-rodriguez-denies-having-anything.html

https://www.facebook.com/daury.rodriguez.77

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152302948550254&set=a.10151905035810254.873295.771530253&type=3&permPage=1

Daury Rodriguez Yo...I ba laga bo ruman su so nigge..eso no se hace parcerito...I e cartera chikito ei looks gay homie....hahahahahhaa....ONE llave !!! You know what it is....! Serio si..wa ta ultimo biaha bo ta hasi e co ei cu e cartera ....that's for the beach..voor de rest lage venezolano nan keda rock e style ei llave....hehehe....
December 2, 2012 at 10:31am




Mom's FB
https://www.facebook.com/rina.geerman

Work and Education

La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club


(I'd read in the comments on one of the articles that Giorino was involved in an incident at Zeerover's, this is what his mother posted about it on her FB page.)

https://www.facebook.com/rina.geerman/posts/4862342842944

Rina Geerman commented on awe24.com.
October 15, 2012 at 1:12pm ·

Papiamentu translation:

jammer cu you is publica redo enbez of news. the articulo here is totalmente incorecto. thing cu owing to happen is cu he cu owing to achieve one beat, not sufficient, but already beat is beat, owing to beat one senjora fast everybody present. my child owing to leave at defence of the senjora because the not can owing to sigi tolera tanto abuse so. dus, do not as cu you owing to publica. the not conoce the sinberguenza. they not was together y mucho less try of go in banjo cu a muher. absurdo. my child owing to make thing none of the supuesto hombernan present was have balls for hasi: stop the abuse of person muher.

http://www.awe24.com/12172

Papiamentu translation:

amigonan owing to come together cu muher on boat, they owing to descend at zeerover bay bathroom y owing to fight cu another

111 day happen come across,

14 of october 2012 12:32 seccion: incidente

diadomingo afternoon owing to enter inforem of one action serious cu person injury at zeerovers, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance an the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu here is deal of some person cu owing to arrive cu boat of placer mara at the pier of zeerover y owing to descend bay at the bathroom, but one of they wanted owing to enter cu one muher also in the bathroom but one owing to wing atencion of another y they cu they owing to start one bringamento. where one of they owing to stay injury while the another owing to lever the speedboat y owing to try huy but kustwacht owing to bay his slow y owing to succeed detene y owing to trece bek at the pier where after police owing to hibe at keep. while ambulance owing to present y owing to atende the victima.

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/12172/5_1350241038.jpg)

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/12172/1_1350241036.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 10:37:46 PM
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2008/02/daury-rodriguez-denies-having-anything.html

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JWuHA8r2lnk/R6na__Cv-yI/AAAAAAAAABE/XVirldHEUxQ/s1600/daury.jpg)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=201051453362610&set=a.108888782578878.10667.100003732699693&type=1

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/550191_201051453362610_583252303_n.jpg)

Daury Rodriguez
Share · October 27, 2012
 ::snipping2::
Google translation:
Daury Rodriguez A co i ask .... bon isa month month december ... Tournament grandi cai mester.
October 27, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=233381136796308&set=a.108888782578878.10667.100003732699693&type=1&permPage=1

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/166573_233381136796308_109812414_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 11:02:11 PM
Giorgio is labeled as Giorino's brother on his FB page.

http://www.kvk.aw/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=40320

Saturday, February 02, 2013 11:50

 
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 29 MAY 2009 under serial number 38675.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
STRAIGHT FORWARD WATER SPORT

 
Business address   KAMAY 29-D, NOORD
Legal form   SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company   STRAIGHT FORWARD WATER SPORT
Date of commencement   06 FEBRUARY 2009
    
 
OWNERS/PARTNERS
LEER, DON GIORGIO;
Born in   ARUBA, ARUBA on 06 FEBRUARY 1991
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   OWNER
Effective   29 MAY 2009
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN WATERSPORTBEDRIJF.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 11:09:24 PM
https://www.facebook.com/LaCabana/posts/10151480525481532

La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club · 5,675 like this
Yesterday at 8:21am ·

This morning, the search continues for GIORINO LEER, missing since Thursday morning out at sea.

Again, we ask for any support (time and resources) you're able to provide. Please direct all questions and offers of support to Militza at 660-4045.

The La Cabana family thank you all for your continued prayers, well wishes, and ability to share this with your friends and family.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151470805336532&set=a.314053696531.186012.185470036531&type=1

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/309929_10151470805336532_1829108612_n.jpg)

La Cabana Beach & Racquet Club
EMERGENCY BROADCAST TO THE LA CABANA FAMILY:

We need your help! GIORINO LEER is missing... he has been lost at sea since yesterday morning Jan. 30th.

Giorino is the son of one of our managers...Any donations for gas, food and water to keep sea search and rescue going is greatly appreciated.

Location: Pier Varadero and Marandi

Please do not respond or ask questions here, as we will not be able to monitor this page too often, and time is of the essence.

For more details on how you can help, please call Militza at 660-4045.

Empty tanks are available at pier to refuel...

Family: Rina Geerman Mom, Militza Gietel Girl Friend, Giovanna Leer Sister

PLEASE SHARE THIS POST TO HELP BRING Giorino Leer home!
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 11:20:55 PM
Alex Matthew's "gripe" page.  jmo

http://nononsensearuba.blogspot.com/2013/01/missing-boy-in-aruba-negligence.html

THURSDAY, JANUARY 31, 2013

MISSING BOY IN ARUBA!!!
NEGLIGENCE
GOVERNMENT REFUSES TO LAUNCH A MAJOR SEARCH

To help, please call Militza at 660-4045

Did the Aruban Coast Guard deliberately neglect a young boy that was in need of help?
Is the Aruban media trying to cover up...AGAIN?

Arubans please help! Please help this young boy! You all know that this young boy is being discriminated against and treated unequal. This family is now having to collect money for fuel to go out to sea and conduct their own search, as they too think that foul play may be involved.

The Aruban Government fails once again to launch a  major search immediately. One would think that they would have learned from their mistakes in the past.

Arubans show that we can stand together and help one of our own!

Please note: Rumors are that the Coast Guard did something to him. The Coast Guards had problems with him in the past. I hope they do find him safe and sound, to rule this possibility out.

PLEASE SHARE THIS POST TO HELP BRING GIORINO LEER HOME!

IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DONATE TO HELP THE SEARCH CALL 660-4045


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 02, 2013, 11:38:35 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151336112223509&set=a.98157198508.89927.96415128508&type=1

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542539_10151336112223509_1928432523_n.jpg)

Julie-Julie
SERVICIO PUBLICO!

To all friends of Giorino Leer, Daury Rodriguez is getting a plane today to go look for Giorino, a private one but he is in need of Donations for FUEL to tank the plane, anybody who wants to help feel free to contact him on Facebook or him (297) 744-3149

Giorino's Family would really appreciate this. Thank You! Any donation can help! Please keep sharing! — with Julissa Margarita, Nilton Lacle, Alina Mansur, Giorino Leer, Ruben Garcia and Ralph Maduro.
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on February 03, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
Wow, some names just keep popping up  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on February 03, 2013, 12:09:30 AM
His FB account:

http://www.facebook.com/giorino.leer (http://www.facebook.com/giorino.leer)





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 03, 2013, 04:02:02 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 03, 2013, 05:44:26 PM
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2008/02/daury-rodriguez-denies-having-anything.html

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JWuHA8r2lnk/R6na__Cv-yI/AAAAAAAAABE/XVirldHEUxQ/s1600/daury.jpg)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=201051453362610&set=a.108888782578878.10667.100003732699693&type=1

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/550191_201051453362610_583252303_n.jpg)

Daury Rodriguez
Share · October 27, 2012
 ::snipping2::
Google translation:
Daury Rodriguez A co i ask .... bon isa month month december ... Tournament grandi cai mester.
October 27, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=233381136796308&set=a.108888782578878.10667.100003732699693&type=1&permPage=1

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/166573_233381136796308_109812414_n.jpg)

Info about Daury Rodriguez arrest in New Jersey in 2008

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2783.msg372880#msg372880

He was paroled in 2011.

https://www.vinelink.com/vinelink/detailsAction.do?siteId=31000&agency=900&id=000104375E&searchType=offender

Offender Name: DAURY  RODRIGUEZ
Offender ID:000104375E
Date of Birth:06/28/1986
Age: 26
Race: White
Gender: Male
 
Custody Status: Out of Custody
Date: 09/07/2011
Reason:Paroled
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Lifesong on February 05, 2013, 09:01:45 PM
Wow, some names just keep popping up  ::MonkeyCool::



 ::rhino::


So...this Daury would've been around 19 in 2005.

And now his friend is missing in the waters off Aruba?

And the missing one's family is asking for help?  Donations?  Volunteers?  Assistance in the search?


Wow.



How about that, Deepak?


 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 06, 2013, 02:18:01 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 03:18:48 AM
Looks like Bondia and Aruba Today are back.   ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.bondia.com/


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2013, 11:00:43 AM
Looks like Bondia and Aruba Today are back.   ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.bondia.com/

What's this "In Association with the New York Times"?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 12:22:07 PM
Looks like Bondia and Aruba Today are back.   ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.bondia.com/

What's this "In Association with the New York Times"?

I remembered this, but took me a little while to find it. 

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Renfro/06052011_ArubaToday.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on February 09, 2013, 02:37:43 PM
Wonder what the association with NYTimes cost Aruba?  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 03:10:14 PM
Wonder what the association with NYTimes cost Aruba?  ::MonkeyCool::

Good question.

Looks like Julia didn't stay very long after that...makes me wonder IYKWIM.   ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Renfro/drunk.gif)

Was she really unemployed for six months?   ::jeep2::

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/julia-renfro/19/35b/537

Julia Renfro's Overview

Current
Managing Director at Aruba Weekly
Editor & Sales Executive at Aruba Daily
Past
Editor-in-Chief at Aruba Today
Travel Executive at World Publications
Education
University of Central Florida
Winter Park High School
Connections
500+ connections

Julia Renfro's Experience

Managing Director
Aruba Weekly
December 2012 – Present (3 months) Aruba

Editor & Sales Executive
Aruba Daily
September 2012 – Present (6 months) Oranjestad, Aruba
Joined the team of the Aruba Daily, the fastest growing English language publication on Aruba.

Editor-in-Chief
Aruba Today
January 1996 – January 2012 (16 years 1 month)
Managing the largest English language newspaper on Aruba.

Travel Executive
World Publications
August 1986 – August 1989 (3 years 1 month)
Travel and Sports writing.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 03:15:32 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=285484861566817&set=a.283886941726609.67614.282045095244127&type=1&relevant_count=1
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Renfro/09282012_zps47722fba.jpg)
Aruba Weekly
The paper boy with paper girl. :)
September 28, 2012


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 03:21:03 PM
Oh, now that's interesting imo... ::MonkeyWink::

https://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=29706

Saturday, February 09, 2013 04:10

 
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 15 MAY 2002 under serial number 28973.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
ARUBA WEEKLY/ARUBA SUNDAY

 
Business address   CAYA G.F. (BETICO) CROES 9, ORANJESTAD OOST
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   14 MAY 2002
    
Authorized capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Paid up capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

RENFRO, JULIA CHRISTINE;
Born in   U.S.A., CALIFORNIE on 30 AUGUST 1966
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   08 NOVEMBER 2002
Authority   FULL
 
BOSET, PATRICK JOHN;
Born in   THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   14 MAY 2002
Authority   FULL
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 03:23:12 PM
Oh, now that's interesting imo... ::MonkeyWink::

https://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=29706

Saturday, February 09, 2013 04:10

 
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 15 MAY 2002 under serial number 28973.0 is the company with the tradename:

 
ARUBA WEEKLY/ARUBA SUNDAY

 
Business address   CAYA G.F. (BETICO) CROES 9, ORANJESTAD OOST
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   14 MAY 2002
    
Authorized capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Paid up capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

RENFRO, JULIA CHRISTINE;
Born in   U.S.A., CALIFORNIE on 30 AUGUST 1966
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   08 NOVEMBER 2002
Authority   FULL
 
BOSET, PATRICK JOHN;
Born in   THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   14 MAY 2002
Authority   FULL
 

(Here's the rest of the document)

Google translation:

OBJECTIVE (S) OF THE COMPANY
1. THE (DO) OPERATE (DO) RESULT OF GRAPHICS, ADVERTISING, ADVERTISING, ADVICE AND MARKETING AGENCY;
2. THE MARKETING AND (DO) PUBLISHING, INCLUDING DRAWING, PRINT, RECORDING, DISTRIBUTION AND SALE OF NEWSPAPERS, MAGAZINES, BROCHURES, BOOKS, ADVERTISING, ADVERTISING PRINTING WORKS, OTHER PRINTING WORKS, AUDIO AND VIDEO TAPES, LASER AND COMPUTER DISCS AND OTHER INFORMATION SUPPORTING ARTICLES;
3. THE PROVISION OF SERVICES TO THIRD PARTY ON THE CARE AND ORGANISATION OF ALL MATTERS WITH BOTH WRITTEN AND THE ELECTRONIC MEDIA RELATED;
4. THE PROVISION OF SERVICES MARKETING, PUBLIC RELATION, ORGANIZATIONAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS;
5. ANALYZING MARKET DEVELOPMENT;
6. ORGANIZING, AND GIVE TO GIVE OF PERFORMANCES AS SEMINARS, CONFERENCES, WORKSHOPS WITH AN EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATION-CHARACTER;
7. PROMOTING DEVELOPMENT OF PRODUCTION, SERVICES AND THE MARKETING OF PRODUCTS, SERVICES AND PRODUCTS, THIS BOTH FOR OWN ACCOUNT AND FOR THE ACCOUNT OF THIRD PARTIES;
8. SIGHTING OF THE INTERESTS OF ARTISTS, THE COVER OF ARTISTS TO THE CONTRACTS AFSLUITENVAN AND DEFEND THEIR INTERESTS;
9. THE PROVISION OF SERVICES AND PROVIDE ALL OF ORGANIZATION, DISTRIBUTION, FILM, FILM DIRECTOR, COMMUNICATIONS, ADVERTISING, ADVERTISING, ILLUSTRATION, VISUAL ARTS, CREATIVE, GRAPHICS AND AUDIOVISUAL DESIGN, PHOTOGRAPHY AND TEXT WRITING;
10. MAKING FILM, PHOTOGRAPHY, VIDEO AND MUSIC PRODUCTIONS AND ALL OTHER TYPES OF AUDIOVISUAL PRODUCTIONS;
11. BUYING, SELLING, RENTING, RENT, ASSEMBLING AND CHARACTER OF SOUND, AUDIOVISUAL PROGRAMS, COMPLAINTS AND EVENTS.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 03:38:14 PM
So have they both been operating both of these companies together all along?   ::MonkeyConfused::

https://www.arubachamber.com/registers

ARUBA WEEKLY/ARUBA SUNDAY
Business name: MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
KvK nr: 28973.0
Business Address: CAYA G.F. (BETICO) CROES 9, ORANJESTAD OOST


ABC TODAY
Business name: MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
KvK nr: 28973.1
Business Address: SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD


https://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=37676

Saturday, February 09, 2013 04:21

 
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 27 JUNE 2007 under serial number 28973.1 is the company with the tradename:

 
ABC TODAY

 
Business address   SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   14 MAY 2002
    
Authorized capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Paid up capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
Main branch: MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V. registered under number 28973 located at CAYA G.F. (BETICO) CROES 9, ORANJESTAD OOST
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

RENFRO, JULIA CHRISTINE;
Born in   U.S.A., CALIFORNIE on 30 AUGUST 1966
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   08 NOVEMBER 2002
Authority   FULL
 
BOSET, PATRICK JOHN;
Born in   THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967
Nationality   DUTCH
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   14 MAY 2002
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE (S) OF THE COMPANY
1. TO (DO) AND EXPLOIT (DO) LEAD OF GRAPHIC, ADVERTISING, ADVERTISING, CONSULTING AND MARKETING COMPANY;
2. THE PLACING ON THE MARKET AND (DO) PUBLISHING, INCLUDING EDITING, PRINTING, RECORDING, DISTRIBUTING AND SELLING OF NEWSPAPERS, MAGAZINES, BROCHURES, BOOKS, ADVERTISING MATERIALS, ADVERTISING PRINTED MATTER, OTHER PRINTED MATTER, AUDIO-AND VIDEOTAPES, LASER AND COMPUTER DISCS AND OTHER INFORMATION ARTICLES BEARING;
3. THE PROVISION OF SERVICES TO THIRD PARTIES ON THE CARE AND ORGANIZATION OF ALL THAT WITH BOTH THE WRITTEN AND THE ELECTRONIC MEDIA RELATED;
4. PROVIDING SERVICES IN MARKETING, PUBLIC RELATIONS, ORGANIZATIONAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS;
5. ANALYZING MARKET DEVELOPMENT;
6. ORGANIZE, GIVE AND DO GIVE PERFORMANCES, SUCH AS SEMINARS, CONFERENCES, WORKSHOPS WITH AN EDUCATIONAL-ORGANIZATIONAL CHARACTER;
7. PROMOTING PRODUCTION DEVELOPMENT, SERVICE AND MARKETING OF PRODUCTION, SERVICES AND PRODUCTS, BOTH FOR ITS OWN ACCOUNT AND FOR THIRD PARTIES;
8. OBSERVING THE INTERESTS OF ARTISTS, ACCOMPANYING ARTISTS IN AFSLUITENVAN CONTRACTS AND DEFEND THEIR INTERESTS;
9. THE PROVISION OF SERVICES AND THE PROVISION OF ALL RELEVANT ORGANIZATION, DISTRIBUTION, FILM PRODUCTION, FILM DIRECTING, COMMUNICATION, PUBLICITY, ADVERTISING, ILLUSTRATION, VISUAL ARTS, CREATIVE, GRAPHIC AND AUDIOVISUAL DESIGN, PHOTOGRAPHY AND COPYWRITING;
10. THE MAKING OF FILM, PHOTOGRAPHY, VIDEO AND MUSIC PRODUCTIONS AND ALL OTHER TYPES OF AUDIOVISUAL PRODUCTIONS;
11. BUY, SELL, RENT, LEASE, EDITING AND DISPLAY OF AUDIO, AUDIOVISUAL PROGRAMS, COMMERCIALS AND EVENTS.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
http://businessprofiles.com/details/mediamax-aruba-n-v/AW-28973-1

BUSINESS PROFILES / CANADA
MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
LAST UPDATED BASED ON INFORMATION FROM THE INDUSTRY CANADA ON 2013-01-02

UNIVERSAL ID: AW-28973-1

IN BRIEF
MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V. was formed in Canada.

FORMATION
Universal ID
AW-28973-1
Name
MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
Registration Number
28973-1
Type
LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
LOCATIONS
Address
SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD, Aruba


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on February 09, 2013, 09:44:00 PM
My eyes, my eyes!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 09, 2013, 10:03:40 PM
My eyes, my eyes!

Sorry about that!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on February 10, 2013, 10:47:03 PM
My eyes, my eyes!

Sorry about that!   ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 11, 2013, 12:20:43 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Lifesong on February 18, 2013, 11:00:06 PM

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.msg878415#msg878415


Quote
Please light a candle remembering Natalee and her family's quest for answers.  Since two were created, you may use one or both.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Nat%27s


 ::justice2NJ::        ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on February 19, 2013, 07:42:58 PM
I'm kind of worried about Texasmom..................... anyone know where she is??


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 19, 2013, 08:07:22 PM
I'm kind of worried about Texasmom..................... anyone know where she is??

Wreck, she's posted today in Dylan Redwine's Missing Person Thread:

Re: Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
« Reply #551 on: February 19, 2013, 06:43:40 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13780.msg1552763#msg1552763


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on February 19, 2013, 08:43:15 PM
I'm kind of worried about Texasmom..................... anyone know where she is??

Wreck, she's posted today in Dylan Redwine's Missing Person Thread:

Re: Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
« Reply #551 on: February 19, 2013, 06:43:40 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13780.msg1552763#msg1552763

Good!! Thanks!  ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 09:29:50 PM
I'm kind of worried about Texasmom..................... anyone know where she is??

Wreck, she's posted today in Dylan Redwine's Missing Person Thread:

Re: Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
« Reply #551 on: February 19, 2013, 06:43:40 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13780.msg1552763#msg1552763

Good!! Thanks!  ::CowboySmiley::

I'm here wreck!   ::CowboySmiley::

I've had a few irons in the fire lately sotospeak, so I haven't been posting as much.  Plus I've been pretty caught up in another MP case that I can't get off my mind.  But I always think about Natalee too, I just came here for a while yesterday and looked at her picture for a while.  So sad she's still not home where she belongs.

The few times I've checked in on the Aruba news lately, it still sucks! 

Probably always will imo.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sorry for worrying you, but thank you for your concern!   ::MonkeyKiss::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 19, 2013, 09:30:14 PM
I'm kind of worried about Texasmom..................... anyone know where she is??

Wreck, she's posted today in Dylan Redwine's Missing Person Thread:

Re: Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
« Reply #551 on: February 19, 2013, 06:43:40 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13780.msg1552763#msg1552763

Good!! Thanks!  ::CowboySmiley::

You're welcome. ::bee:: 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 10:14:37 PM
I hope someone is actually looking for her!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.diario.aw/2013/02/ningun-informacion-ainda-di-e-hoben-sarah-fearon-cu-ta-perdi/

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mucha-perdi.jpg)

none informacion still of the young sarah fearon cu is perdi

publication: tuesday, 19 february 2013.

categoria: policial

oranjestad (aan)- till cu yesterday still not have none informe cu owing to enter if owing to succeed localiza the child muher sarah elisabeth fearon naci at aruba 31 of may 1998. sarah is alumno of filomena college his estatura is 1.47 metre y if cualkier person owing to look at or know where the child muher is they can calling 100, 911, tiplijn of police 11141 or his voogd silvia dirksz tel: 5946115 or also his brother muher mevelyne maduro tel: 7305750.

https://www.facebook.com/amigoearuba/posts/10151440627653866

Google translation:

Amigoe Aruba
Yesterday

runaway

Sarah Elizabeth Fearon (14) is still missing. It is suspected that the girl ran away. That would not be the first time. Police warn friends that they are complicit if a minor help ...



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 10:16:30 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/145250-vier-arrestaties-na-grote-politiezoekactie

Google translation:

Four arrests after major police search         

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 2013 8:45

The police are looking into the mondi during a massive search yesterday afternoon and evening.

ORANGE CITY - Four suspects were arrested yesterday by the police after a large and long search through several units. Following is the statement of a suspect that they were involved in a robbery, said police spokesman John Larmonie morning against Amigoe .

During a patrol in Paradera met the police yesterday on the car of the accused, which showed that the hand of an occupant was bloodied. The police found a baseball bat full of blood. The driver was immediately arrested, but the other suspects fled and disappeared in the mondi. According to the driver they had a Chinese supermarket robbed, but later he declared that it was a robbery of a tourist at the Alto Vista chapel was.

In the car were drugs, guns and dollars were found. In Paradera, Seroe Janchi, Calbas, Jaburibari Gavilan and came hondenbrigade, maritime police, motorized police units and uniform in action. A helicopter searched both afternoon and evening the surroundings. At the time of the motorized police Paradera looking, was a suspect Toyota Yaris noted. They give chase. After police intercepted the car, the two suspects fled here again the mondi in. They were soon picked up by the units and arrested. The chauffeur was arrested during his flight. There is also evidence seized during which the action is found it. The investigation has the matter under investigation.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 10:19:29 PM
Abby Hogan is set to start serving her sentence March 18th.  More on this case over in the James Edward Hogan thread.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6197.0

http://www.amigoe.com/english/145200-wife-of-missing-consul-put-behind-bars

Wife of missing consul put behind bars         

SUNDAY, 17 FEBRUARY 2013 14:57

GAINESVILLE/WILLEMSTAD — The wife of the American vice-consul on Curaçao, who has been reported missing for years, has been given one year and one day imprisonment. After serving this sentence she will be placed under supervision for two years. She is convicted for obstructing the search for her husband James Hogan. The American Ministry of Justice announced this yesterday.Hogan left his residence on Curaçao on foot on September 24th 2009. When he hadn’t shown up at the office the next day the police of the Netherlands Antilles, the Netherlands and the United States had began a large scale search operation. His blood-stained clothes were found on a beach. The police had also found a blood-stained and large kitchen knife. The blood appeared to be Hogan’s. His mobile telephone was found later on, in the water. After more than three years there is still no trace of Hogan.

It appeared during trial that Abby Beard Hogan (50) had changed her statements on the disappearance time after time. First she said her husband and she had had an argument, then it became a minor difference of opinion on a new job for James. In a conversation with police officers she stated he had actually left the residence in a good mood.

Several hours after his departure, the vice-consul and his wife had spoke on the telephone for approx. three minutes, but Abby had told the police she couldn’t remember anything because she had been half asleep. After conversations with the police officers, she had deleted over 300 e-mails in total. She had also concealed from the police that she had an extramarital relation.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 10:32:04 PM
Subscriber article

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/145087-seismologisch-onderzoek-olie-a-gas-start-vandaag

Google translation:

Seismological Research Oil & Gas starts today

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2013 8:49

ORANGE CITY - In ads Arubano Compania di Petroleo (CAP) and the Spanish oil and gas company Repsol know that today the seismological research begins. It is the first stage ...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 11:01:18 PM
I hope someone is actually looking for her!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.diario.aw/2013/02/ningun-informacion-ainda-di-e-hoben-sarah-fearon-cu-ta-perdi/

Papiamentu translation:

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mucha-perdi.jpg)

none informacion still of the young sarah fearon cu is perdi

publication: tuesday, 19 february 2013.

categoria: policial

oranjestad (aan)- till cu yesterday still not have none informe cu owing to enter if owing to succeed localiza the child muher sarah elisabeth fearon naci at aruba 31 of may 1998. sarah is alumno of filomena college his estatura is 1.47 metre y if cualkier person owing to look at or know where the child muher is they can calling 100, 911, tiplijn of police 11141 or his voogd silvia dirksz tel: 5946115 or also his brother muher mevelyne maduro tel: 7305750.

https://www.facebook.com/amigoearuba/posts/10151440627653866

Google translation:

Amigoe Aruba
Yesterday

runaway

Sarah Elizabeth Fearon (14) is still missing. It is suspected that the girl ran away. That would not be the first time. Police warn friends that they are complicit if a minor help ...



I think they may have found her?

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/59987-hobencita-cu-tabata-perdi-sarah-fearon-a-wordo-haya-

Papiamentu translation:

hobencita cu was perdi sarah fearon owing to wordo achieve

tuesday, 19 february 2013 17:47

the hobencita cu was perdi for of some day happen owing to wordo achieve at san nicolas. during end of week enough person owing to succeed mirele but not owing to succeed of place hand on dje. the young owing to descend at filomena college diabierna morning 7:30 y after not owing to return cas. police is investigando the caso.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 11:09:29 PM
http://www.awe24.com/13604

Papiamentu translation:

relaciona cu one jovencita cu is perdi y several action of gang, police owing to enter one cas at san nicolas

1 day happen come across, 18 of feburary 2013 12:06

seccion: incidente

monday morning polisnan owing to bay at one adres at san nicolas where the jovencita perdi will was y eynan have miembronan of gang live y or stay. at the cas ey police owing to enter cu the unidadnan k9 for so controla full the cas. after of the sondeo can owing to notice cu police owing to confisca several evidencia cual is give one indicacion what genuinely is pasando. we will follow informa



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 11:34:28 PM
http://www.awe24.com/20130219/13618/Awor_si_e_jovencita_di_14_ana_a_ser_encontra_den_e_area_di_Kustbatterij

(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13618/2_1361306441.jpg)

Papiamentu translation:

now if the jovencita of 14 year owing to being encontra in the area of kustbatterij
7 hora happen come across, 19 of feburary 2013 16:34
seccion: incidente
informacion oficial cu we owing to end of ricibi the jovencita sarah elisabeth fearon owing to being encontra. ela being encontra for his aunt in vecindario of kustbatterij. ela being encontra in the area indica for of previous to instant.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 19, 2013, 11:59:55 PM
Anyone remember the choller "Nathalie"?  I think her name was Nathalie Tromp

She recently died from cancer.

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/59938-nathalie-a-perde-bataya-contra-cancer

Papiamentu translation:

nathalie owing to lose action contra cancer

monday, 18 february 2013 15:51

nathalie do not one figure desconoci in we comunidad. have person is corde because; nathalie choller, another because; nathalie of sky or immidiately because; nathalie. some year happen the la bay republica dominicana for fix his life after of añanan in adiccion the la succeed supera this. but life had more action for nathalie. some month behind dokternan owing to diagnostica nathalie cancer of pecho enough avanza. nathalie owing to struggle duro y cuminsa some tratamento for combati the maleza. week happen the la become bad stay interna at hospital just some day after of burial of his mother biologico. monday marduga algo happen of 3or the tristo news owing to enter cu nathalie owing to bay let we. esnan cu corde in good y bad, amigonan of caya big y all esnan cu owing to place hand for help nathalie arrive at where the is awendia owing to stop one rato keto y corde for her great person cu the was. nathalie owing to achieve one of two chens in life, cortico perhaps but sir had another plan pe. paz at his restonan y forza at his family, all esnan cu owing to conoce nathalie but specialmente at sra. audrey lacle-croes cu owing to become one "mama" pe. come across

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/11/natalee-holloway-comments-post-5/

Quote
150. chloe2 on June 11th, 2005 11:12 pm
arubagirl – native — what’s the email that’s circulating ?

 ::snipping2::

160. arubagirl on June 11th, 2005 11:14 pm
It’s about Nathalie Tromp, the choller.

http://www.diario.aw/2013/02/nathalie-a-demostra-na-aruba-con-di-berdad-bo-por-rehabilita-completamente/

Papiamentu translation:

nathalie owing to demostra at aruba con of berdad could you rehabilita completamente
publication: tuesday, 19 february 2013.
categoria: general

past owing to fayece monday

oranjestad (aan): past owing to become conoci at one form not mucho beautiful! “choller nathalie” was cada trip in news in prensa at aruba! debi at thing is happen cune on caya, cu police, or in confrontacion cu ciudadanonan canando at beach.

person was reclama bay goal cada trip at programanan of radio, of his form of march mey-mey of turistanan at aruba.

but in deep of his curazon, nathalie jacintha tromp had the desire of libera of his adiccion. although some of his amigonan, as choller sky not owing to haci esey… tog nathalie owing to dicidi at participa in the proceso for rehabilita.

after cu some person cu did take the time for combersa cu nathalie y owing to consehe for change his life, at one form balente past did take the decision for trip for republica dominicana for cuminsa cu his proceso of rehabilitacion. past owing to achieve sosten of audrey lacle, of fundacion adopt an addict.

pound of drugs y assure contento for is one person completamente new, nathalie owing to wordo acepta at aruba for one y all. past owing to besides asocia his self cu church maranatha, where past owing to follow ofrece his life at god.

in all the gladness noticianan less positive owing to enter for natalie at instant cu doctor owing to diagnostica cu natalie have cancer of pecho. natalie owing to stay struggle contra the ailment, y recien owing to happen in tristeza hour cu his mother biologico owing to fayece.

but past owing to stay y owing to follow struggle, together cu audrey croes-lacle, that is the catalizator cu owing to follow dune sosten.

diadomingo night daily paper owing to come across cu the choller sky, y past owing to show of is much preocupa for thing is pasando cu nathalie, y cu situation is empeorando.

but monday madruga the struggle owing to arrive his end hour cu sir owing to dicidi another. nathalie owing to nace at aruba day 7 of october 1969, then have 43 year of edad. assure much proud we is of one person cu did take the decision for change his life for uno miho y cu owing to succeed this. of part the family completo of daily paper, we is send word of deep condolencia at his famianan y sernan keri. cu nathalie sosega at paz.

(http://www.diario.aw/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Potret-di-Natalie.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 20, 2013, 01:43:30 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blonde on February 23, 2013, 06:03:49 PM
I'M UPSET THAT MY FRIENDS ARE GOING TO ARUBA NEXT MONTH AT THE RUI Resort Aruba
I TOLD THEM IT WAS NOT SAFE ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS RUI Resort


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 23, 2013, 11:55:45 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on February 27, 2013, 06:58:56 PM
Sooner or later Natalee is coming home to America.

Kalpoes will be coming to America soon too - for trial!




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 27, 2013, 09:03:29 PM
Sooner or later Natalee is coming home to America.

Kalpoes will be coming to America soon too - for trial!




 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on February 27, 2013, 09:07:31 PM
Sooner or later Natalee is coming home to America.

Kalpoes will be coming to America soon too - for trial!




 ::justice2NJ::


 ::justice2NJ::   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on February 27, 2013, 10:54:09 PM
Sooner or later Natalee is coming home to America.

Kalpoes will be coming to America soon too - for trial!




 :thumleft:

Somehow, some way, I believe it will happen too, Kermit. Just as Joran is behind bars when it seemed he was free forever, I do not believe that Natalee's remains are destined to never be home.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on February 28, 2013, 11:25:35 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: antunym on March 01, 2013, 04:12:48 PM
Sooner or later Natalee is coming home to America.

Kalpoes will be coming to America soon too - for trial!




Those are good words there.  I truly believe the same thing because of the prayers and dedication of all the ones that love her.  I Hope all is well with all of you.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 01, 2013, 08:42:16 PM
Sooner or later Natalee is coming home to America.

Kalpoes will be coming to America soon too - for trial!




Those are good words there.  I truly believe the same thing because of the prayers and dedication of all the ones that love her.  I Hope all is well with all of you.

Miss um,
so good to see you I hope all is well in your neck of the woods.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 01, 2013, 08:46:04 PM
Sooner or later Natalee is coming home to America.

Kalpoes will be coming to America soon too - for trial!




 :thumleft:

Somehow, some way, I believe it will happen too, Kermit. Just as Joran is behind bars when it seemed he was free forever, I do not believe that Natalee's remains are destined to never be home.


That is so right Miss Bee.
 ::bee::Someone with a soul will come forward and it will change everything.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 01, 2013, 08:46:47 PM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/10887_603021869724420_417688375_n.jpg)


WELCOME TO AMERICA KALPOES


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 01, 2013, 08:49:42 PM
LOL! Love it, Kermit!!   ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 02, 2013, 03:07:29 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 03, 2013, 05:52:08 PM
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/texasmom_55/Dompig/MDompigLadiesNight07302008SenorFrog.jpg)

DEEPAK KALPOE POST TRAUMATIC STRESS SYNDROME CAUSES HIM TO GO OUT TO PARTY ALL NIGHT LONG!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 03, 2013, 06:11:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DB9669ggb8

Remember this Satish?
Our American courts are different then Aruba. We don't like liars!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on March 04, 2013, 01:21:11 AM
http://peru.com/actualidad/mi-ciudad/joran-van-der-sloot-lamento-lo-que-hice-y-buscare-mejor-humano-video-noticia-124771

Google translation

Joran Van der Sloot: I regret what I did and I will seek to be a better human being
Sunday March 3, 2013 - 23:59

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Lima. "I regret what I have done. Every day of my life I have to live with it, I do not even understand myself, how it could have happened the way it happened. I think what made ​​me kill Stephany was definitely extenuating circumstances, but that will never excuse my actions, "he wrote.

Also in the letter, released on D-Day, asks the court to review its appeal see if carefully and change their proper sentence for the crime he committed.

Recall that the police concluded that Joran Van der Sloot was suspected of aggravated robbery with subsequent death, crime is punishable by life imprisonment.

Under those charges handed it to prosecutors, but the prosecutor accused him Ninfa Espinoza simple theft and homicide, beneficiándolo that way with a lesser sentence of 30 years in prison.

"I want to still be able to do something with my life, have a family and a job or even a career. If I spend the next 25 years behind bars I can forget those dreams. I feel remorse since the day I killed Stephany, as if something had died in me too, "he wrote.

"I sincerely hope that one day his family and loved ones can forgive me for what I did, but understand if you do not. Continue my social and psychological therapy here for as long as necessary to rejoin society and become a better human being, "he added.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on March 04, 2013, 01:32:03 AM
http://crime.about.com/b/2013/03/04/van-der-sloot-seeks-reduced-sentence.htm

Van der Sloot Seeks Reduced Sentence
By Charles Montaldo, About.com Guide  March 4, 2013

Convicted killer Joran Van der Sloot has written a letter to a Peruvian court in which he apparently takes responsibility for the death of Stephany Flores and says he hopes some day her family can forgive him. Van der Sloot also said he was continuing his therapy in hopes of becoming "a better human being."

In the letter, he also seeks a reduced sentence.

Van der Sloot was sentenced to 28 years in prison for the May 30, 2010 murder of Flores in his Lima hotel room. He has been incarcerated since his arrest in June 2010.

In a letter to the appeals court in Peru, Van der Sloot said he regretted his actions. The letter was published on Peru.com and translated here by Google Translate.
 ::snipping2::
Wants Sentenced Reduced

Also in the letter, Van der Sloot asked the appeals court to examine the evidence and reduce his sentence.

Originally, the police charged Van der Sloot with aggravated robbery resulting in death, which would have given him a life sentence. Prosecutors reduced that to simple theft and homicide, and asked for a 30-year sentence.

The court decided on a 28-year sentence, but with credit for time served it was estimated Van der Sloot could be paroled in 14 years.

If he is ever released from Peruvian prison, he will face extradition to the United States to face extortion charges connected to the Natalee Holloway case.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 04, 2013, 01:50:20 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Beth_Sept2010_NyPost.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 04, 2013, 01:51:06 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Stephany!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: cadillac on March 04, 2013, 10:09:47 AM
Boo Hoo, Joran.

You killed Stephanie after you did who knows what to Natalee.

No one feels sorry for you and the fact that you are finally behind bars in your Midnight Express prison.

You alone are responsible for your actions.

If you have such remorse, tell Beth where Natalee is and go back to your cell.  I personally hope you never have a life outside the Peruvian cell walls.

Unless it's here in Alabama -

Go ahead and feel sorry for yourself because I am not sure anyone else does.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on March 04, 2013, 11:22:20 AM
I notice Joran only addresses what he did to Stephanie and makes no mention of Natalee.

This gives the appearance that this is more about his sentence than any true redemption.

While I do believe in redemption for normal people, I'm just not sure a sociopath such as Joran is capable of it.  But I am glad to hear he is in therapy and working on his problems even if only in a superficial, self-serving way.  Miracles do happen and should Joran actually come to realize what he has done, it should be unbearable for him.   

More misery in his already miserable existence.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on March 04, 2013, 11:24:40 AM
For such a small place, Aruba has a lot of missing people!  The population is about the same as Huntsville, AL, and we very seldom have a missing person there.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on March 04, 2013, 11:26:38 AM
Wonder what the association with NYTimes cost Aruba?  ::MonkeyCool::


Probably as one of the very few English-speaking publications on the island.  I seriously doubt it has to do with journalistic integrity as we know they have none of that.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on March 04, 2013, 11:32:17 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/145250-vier-arrestaties-na-grote-politiezoekactie

Google translation:

Four arrests after major police search         

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 2013 8:45

The police are looking into the mondi during a massive search yesterday afternoon and evening.

ORANGE CITY - Four suspects were arrested yesterday by the police after a large and long search through several units. Following is the statement of a suspect that they were involved in a robbery, said police spokesman John Larmonie morning against Amigoe .

During a patrol in Paradera met the police yesterday on the car of the accused, which showed that the hand of an occupant was bloodied. The police found a baseball bat full of blood. The driver was immediately arrested, but the other suspects fled and disappeared in the mondi. According to the driver they had a Chinese supermarket robbed, but later he declared that it was a robbery of a tourist at the Alto Vista chapel was.

In the car were drugs, guns and dollars were found. In Paradera, Seroe Janchi, Calbas, Jaburibari Gavilan and came hondenbrigade, maritime police, motorized police units and uniform in action. A helicopter searched both afternoon and evening the surroundings. At the time of the motorized police Paradera looking, was a suspect Toyota Yaris noted. They give chase. After police intercepted the car, the two suspects fled here again the mondi in. They were soon picked up by the units and arrested. The chauffeur was arrested during his flight. There is also evidence seized during which the action is found it. The investigation has the matter under investigation.



Yes, nothing says Welcome! to tourists like a bloodied baseball bat!

I see they still have their same regard for tourist safety.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 04, 2013, 12:03:28 PM
I notice Joran only addresses what he did to Stephanie and makes no mention of Natalee.

This gives the appearance that this is more about his sentence than any true redemption.

While I do believe in redemption for normal people, I'm just not sure a sociopath such as Joran is capable of it.
  But I am glad to hear he is in therapy and working on his problems even if only in a superficial, self-serving way.  Miracles do happen and should Joran actually come to realize what he has done, it should be unbearable for him.   

More misery in his already miserable existence.


Hi Anna!  It's good to see you!

(Bolded by me)
Joran is all about Joran imo.  Maybe he's running out of money and the truth of the situation he's in is  finally coming home to roost.  Joran is where he is due to choices he's made in life, which include taking life from others.  Suck it up Joran.  Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.  JMHO



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on March 04, 2013, 04:06:12 PM
http://peru.com/actualidad/mi-ciudad/joran-van-der-sloot-busca-anular-su-condena-crimen-stephany-flores-noticia-124775

Google translation

Joran Van der Sloot seeks to void sentence of 28 years for murder of Stephany Flores
Monday March 4, 2013 - 7:43

The Dutch defense, Maximum Highness said that he was forced to confess to the murder and that he placed an official translator of the embassy.

Lima. By a legal the murderer of Stephany Flores, Joran van der Sloot, seek to annul the judicial process against him, and thus, the sentence of 28 years in prison.

A video presented exclusively by Day D shows van der Sloot talking with police in fluent Spanish, explaining how to play poker.

This was a strategy of the police, carrying a field that is to your liking demostar in order that I could speak in a language that is not their own.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 05, 2013, 12:35:06 AM
Ohhhh, poor Joran! He seems a little unhappy these days.  ::MonkeyTongue::

::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyShovel:: ::monkeywine2:: ::dogwag:: ::piggy:: ::rhino:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyRoll:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyDevil2:: ::snowmanlaugh:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::koaladancing:: ::monkeymargarita::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2013, 02:37:45 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 05, 2013, 02:38:43 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Stephany!

 ::justice2NJ::


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Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2013, 07:14:51 PM
http://www.lavanguardia.com/gente/20130303/54368951406/tony-ronald.html

Google translation:

Tony Ronald Dies

The singer of the popular 'Help, help!' Barcelona has died following a long illness

People | 03/03/2013 - 18:48 am    | Updated: 04/03/2013 - 11:53 pm

(http://img01.lavanguardia.com/2013/03/03/37-TONY-RONALD-Participa-en-el_54367965599_51351706917_600_226.jpg)

Barcelona. (Writing and agencies). - Singer Tony Ronald , who rose to fame in the seventies thanks to single Help, help me , has died on Sunday in Barcelona at 72 years of age. His remains were found in the morgue of L'Hospitalet de Llobregat, which opens Monday morning wake at 13.00, after which on Tuesday will be a farewell ceremony at 16.00, the family said. Ronald , born Den Boer Andre Siegfried Kramer in the Dutch town of Arnhem, was producer, singer-songwriter, and began his career at Barcelona in the 50s in gurpos as Krooner's and Tony & Charley. Later he began his solo career in which he achieved his great success, said Help, help me - and numerous successful versions of The Beatles.

 ::snipping2::

The wife of singer, Mariló Dominguez said the program Telecinco What time so happy , Maria Teresa Campos, in a wiretap, that they were "very saddened" by the death of Roland , yet "very proud of his life, his career and how it has gone." Thus said it was "genius and figure to the grave. Till the last moment has maintained the type, has been strong, as it was" indicated Dominguez, who said that "his body has not responded more (...) but it has been at peace."


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Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
http://www.hechosdehoy.com/adios-a-tony-ronald-una-semana-despues-de-anunciar-su-enfermedad-25123.htm

Google translation:

People & TV
         
Farewell to Tony Ronald a week after announcing his illness

Born in Holland but settled down in the 60's in Barcelona, ​​the idol of the '70s with "Help. Help" died the day his friends prepared a tribute.

He was 62

(http://www.hechosdehoy.com/imagenes/fotosdeldia/32175_foto_del_cartel_que_anunciaba_el_homenaje_a_tony_en_barcelona___foto__tr_.jpg)
Photo of the sign announcing the tribute to Tony in Barcelona. (Photo: TR)
         
Acts of Today  / Updated March 3, 2013      
   
Singer Tony Roland (Arnhem, Netherlands, 1941) died Sunday in Barcelona and announces its website. "Today we received the sad news of the death of Tony Ronald after a cruel disease. Recently said goodbye to his audience last week in the program Telecinco What time so happy in which he stated that his health prevented him from taking the stage to continue , as he would have liked, "reads the information. Ronald , whose real name is Andre Siegfried Kramer Den Boer , came from a humble family but very musical. From an early age he sang in church choirs and at age 16, after winning sailor, he bought his first guitar. In 1960 he moved to Barcelona, ​​where he always lived and died with only 62 years.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 06, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
I didn't find it but did anything say what he died from?  He really does resemble Anita.  Wonder if he's really her brother?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2013, 11:25:26 PM
I didn't find it but did anything say what he died from?  He really does resemble Anita.  Wonder if he's really her brother?

I'm wondering if it wasn't cancer, this was posted on his FB Feb 27th?

https://www.facebook.com/tony.ronald.71/posts/490945480953046

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/535471_415583638531521_1519526265_n.jpg)

https://www.facebook.com/tony.ronald.71/posts/505687822809437

December 29, 2012

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Tony Ronald Mi hermanita que vive en Aruba, en profesora de dibujo y pintura.Somos un orgullo de familia. He dicho !!!
My sister who lives in Aruba, Professor of drawing and painting.We are proud of the family. I have said!(Translated by Bing)
December 29, 2012 at 12:41pm · 1

Anita Hugen ohhhh, gracias hermano X
Ohhhh, thank you brother X(Translated by Bing)
December 29, 2012 at 1:52pm via mobile

Vicente Martinez Ortiz QUE SE PODÍA ESPERAR DE UN HERMANO COMO TÚ..FELIZ AÑO NUEVO QUERIDO AMIGO
THAT YOU COULD EXPECT FROM A BROTHER LIKE YOU...HAPPY NEW YEAR DEAR FRIEND(Translated by Bing)
December 29, 2012 at 5:21pm · 1


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 06, 2013, 11:47:06 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151358030475081&set=a.478583740080.256946.563135080&type=1

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/548209_10151358030475081_1369303857_n.jpg)

Valentijn Sloot with Sebastian van der Sloot.
Share · December 26, 2012
35 people like this.

Gretchen B Lurie Happy New Year, Valentijn!
December 26, 2012 at 5:40pm via mobile

Lois Romei Schlowsky Two handsome guys!!!!! You guys make your mom proud!!!!!!
December 26, 2012 at 5:41pm · 1

Patrizia Gelvatti Belli come il sole!
See Translation
December 26, 2012 at 7:31pm · 1

Hanni Peters-den Boer Geniet van elkaar...xx
December 27, 2012 at 9:28am · 1

Tony Ronald GROETEN VAN UNCLE TONY FROM BARCELONA.
December 27, 2012 at 10:48am · 3


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2013, 12:32:08 AM
Videos at the link:

http://www.telecinco.es/quetiempotanfeliz/Tony-Ronald-despide-escenarios-QTTF_5_1561950003.html?itemId=0

Google translation:

Tony Ronald farewell to the stage in 'What time so happy'

Tony Ronald: "I would have liked to continue but I have major health problems"

The singer says goodbye to the stage surrounded by friends in 'QTTF'

Mariló, his wife: "Tony can not be assumed and nothing happens ... has left a great legacy and is an important man"


Wedding unpublished images of Tony Ronald

His wife Mariló surprised the singer in 'QTTF!'

The singer and Mariló were married May 4, 1989


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2013, 01:20:02 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
http://www.hartfordmarathon.com/Events/ENOUGH___A_Race_to_End_Violence.htm

ENOUGH! A RACE TO END VIOLENCE
 
Sunday - April 21, 2013
       
Student Center Circle, CCSU, New Britain, CT
Start Time:
10:00 AM

YWCA New Britain has a long history of helping people who have been victims of sexual assault and domestic violence. For Sexual Assault Awareness Month in April, YWCA New Britain’s Sexual Assault Crisis Services (SACS) hopes to raise public awareness about the pervasiveness of sexual assault and all types of violence that affect victims and their families every day. By raising this awareness, we hope to break the silence and end the violence.

YWCA SACS has partnered with Central Connecticut State University and the Hartford Marathon Foundation to host an event entitled ENOUGH! A Race to End Violence. The event will consist of a 5K race followed by an awards ceremony, and ending with our guest speaker. During registration and after the race there will be tables set up from local resources as well as food and a chance to participate in our clothesline project (www.clotheslineproject.org). All are encouraged to join together at the end of the race to help spread the message that violence is not acceptable.

This year we are pleased to announce that our guest speaker will be Beth Holloway, mother of Natalee Holloway the high school senior who was abducted on her graduation trip in Aruba in 2005. Since that tragic event, Beth has delivered her message of hope, faith and personal safety to young adults and people of all ages all across the United States and we are excited to have her with us.

The proceeds from the event will allow SACS to continue to provide comfort and counseling to individuals affected by sexual assault and abuse in 46 towns within Hartford, part of Tolland County, and Plymouth.

SACS’s mission is to eliminate sexual violence in our community through crisis intervention, prevention education, and public policy advocacy. Advocates and volunteers answer hotline calls, work with law enforcement, accompany survivors at local emergency rooms and speak to community groups to ensure that victims’ voices are heard.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2013, 09:10:19 PM
http://www.courant.com/community/new-britain/hcrs-71820hc-new-britain-20130305,0,7165153.story

READER SUBMITTED: YWCA New Britain And CCSU Announce ENOUGH! Race To End Violence

April 21
 
Sarah Bernier, YWCA New Britain
New Britain
7:10 p.m. EST, March 7, 2013

Beth Holloway, known for her heroic efforts to find her missing daughter Natalee in Aruba in 2005, will be the special guest at the 2nd Annual ENOUGH! Race to End Violence on April 21st at 10 a.m. The YWCA New Britain's Sexual Assault Crisis Service (SACS) has partnered with Central Connecticut State University and the Hartford Marathon Foundation to host the event. Registration for the 5K race will begin at 9 a.m. and the race will start at 10 a.m.

Following the awards ceremony, Holloway, whose public struggle to search and then cope with her daughter's abduction during her high school graduation trip, touched many hearts. Since that tragic event, Beth Holloway has delivered an uplifting message of hope, faith, and personal safety to young adults and people of all ages all across the U.S.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 07, 2013, 11:17:20 PM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Beth_Sept2010_NyPost.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 08, 2013, 10:29:57 PM
 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Continued to April 21, 2014  ::MonkeyCool::

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Post by: wreck on March 09, 2013, 12:54:54 AM
::MonkeyHaHa::  Continued to April 21, 2014  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Stipulation0228131_zps6f3806bf.jpg)

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 ::MonkeyEek::  Is anyone shocked at this point??????????????? There must be method to this madness by Dr. Phil .....................................


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 09, 2013, 12:58:24 AM
Yeah, bleed the Kalpoes, Aruba and their attorneys dry  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2013, 07:57:32 AM
Does anyone remember what the "Plaintiffs' Petition for Extraordinary Relief" was pertaining to?

I'm guessing it was from contempt of court for not producing something?  Something that it looks like they're planning to take to the highest court in the land to seek relief from producing?

Please don't throw bananas if this is something I should remember! 
Monkey with a lot on her mind here...  ::MonkeyHaHa::







Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2013, 07:58:42 AM
Yeah, bleed the Kalpoes, Aruba and their attorneys dry  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sounds good to me!   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 09, 2013, 10:09:16 AM
Does anyone remember what the "Plaintiffs' Petition for Extraordinary Relief" was pertaining to?

I'm guessing it was from contempt of court for not producing something?  Something that it looks like they're planning to take to the highest court in the land to seek relief from producing?

Please don't throw bananas if this is something I should remember!  
Monkey with a lot on her mind here...  ::MonkeyHaHa::






I'll see if I can find it


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 09, 2013, 10:15:11 AM
Does anyone remember what the "Plaintiffs' Petition for Extraordinary Relief" was pertaining to?

I'm guessing it was from contempt of court for not producing something?  Something that it looks like they're planning to take to the highest court in the land to seek relief from producing?

Please don't throw bananas if this is something I should remember! 
Monkey with a lot on her mind here...  ::MonkeyHaHa::



No document with the words Extraordinary and only two with Relief - Both from December 2010:

DEFENDANTS REPLY TO PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS MOTION TO VACATE OR RECONSIDER ANY EX PARTE RELIEF GRANTED

PLAINTIFFS DEEPAK AND SATISH KALPOES RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS MOTION TO VACATE OR RECONSIDER ANY EX PARTE RELIEF GRANTED AND THE DECLARATION OF JOSHUA D. YEAGER IN SUPPORT THEREOF.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2013, 05:35:46 PM
Thanks Klaas    ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 09, 2013, 05:59:07 PM
Thanks Klaas    ::MonkeyKiss::

Are either one of those the one you were thinking of? 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 09, 2013, 11:11:51 PM
Thanks Klaas    ::MonkeyKiss::

Are either one of those the one you were thinking of? 

Still not ringing a bell with me.  But I do appreciate your looking for the doc titles for me.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2013, 01:25:16 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Buckeye on March 10, 2013, 11:55:24 AM
I was looking for info on the "Extraordinary Relief" and came across an interesting article from December 2012:


Kalpoe Brothers Cannot Seek Punitive Damages       
Written by Information Provided to San Fernando Valley Sun   
Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:30

LOS ANGELES (CNS) - Two brothers who allege they were defamed on a "Dr. Phil" episode about Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba cannot seek punitive or general damages in their $800 million lawsuit, a judge affirmed.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe filed their complaint in December 2006 against Phil McGraw and CBS, maintaining their reputations were damaged in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show in which it was implied that they drugged the 18-year- old Alabama college student and raped her.

On Nov. 13, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William MacLaughlin granted a defense motion to prevent the Kalpoes from asking for punitive or general damages because they did not comply with the California Civil Code and make a written demand for a retraction of the material they believed was defamatory within 20 days.

Attorneys for the Kalpoes maintained in their court papers that the retraction rule only applied to media outlets engaged in the "immediate and rapid dissemination of news." They asked MacLaughlin today to reconsider his previous ruling, saying the Kalpoe siblings otherwise would be "stripped of their right to proceed on the full merits of the overwhelming majority of their causes of action."

The Kalpoe attorneys said the ruling affects 21 of their 24 causes of action. They claimed that demanding a retraction would have been futile and asked the judge to either reverse his prior ruling or hold off a final ruling until trial, when they could present additional evidence. MacLaughlin said he was denying the motion because they did not present any new facts or new law. "I'm certainly not unaware of the consequences of the court's ruling," the judge said.

MacLaughlin has yet to rule on whether the Kalpoes are public figures. If he makes that finding, the brother would have a higher standard of proof ahead of them to show they were defamed. Trial is scheduled for April 22.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.sanfernandosun.com/sanfernsun/news/8846-kalpoe-brothers-cannot-seek-punitive-damages-



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 10, 2013, 12:41:33 PM
Thanks Buckeye!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on March 10, 2013, 12:46:09 PM
I was looking for info on the "Extraordinary Relief" and came across an interesting article from December 2012:


Kalpoe Brothers Cannot Seek Punitive Damages       
Written by Information Provided to San Fernando Valley Sun   
Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:30

LOS ANGELES (CNS) - Two brothers who allege they were defamed on a "Dr. Phil" episode about Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba cannot seek punitive or general damages in their $800 million lawsuit, a judge affirmed.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe filed their complaint in December 2006 against Phil McGraw and CBS, maintaining their reputations were damaged in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show in which it was implied that they drugged the 18-year- old Alabama college student and raped her.

On Nov. 13, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William MacLaughlin granted a defense motion to prevent the Kalpoes from asking for punitive or general damages because they did not comply with the California Civil Code and make a written demand for a retraction of the material they believed was defamatory within 20 days.

Attorneys for the Kalpoes maintained in their court papers that the retraction rule only applied to media outlets engaged in the "immediate and rapid dissemination of news." They asked MacLaughlin today to reconsider his previous ruling, saying the Kalpoe siblings otherwise would be "stripped of their right to proceed on the full merits of the overwhelming majority of their causes of action."

The Kalpoe attorneys said the ruling affects 21 of their 24 causes of action. They claimed that demanding a retraction would have been futile and asked the judge to either reverse his prior ruling or hold off a final ruling until trial, when they could present additional evidence. MacLaughlin said he was denying the motion because they did not present any new facts or new law. "I'm certainly not unaware of the consequences of the court's ruling," the judge said.

MacLaughlin has yet to rule on whether the Kalpoes are public figures. If he makes that finding, the brother would have a higher standard of proof ahead of them to show they were defamed. Trial is scheduled for April 22.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.sanfernandosun.com/sanfernsun/news/8846-kalpoe-brothers-cannot-seek-punitive-damages-


Wow!!! How did we miss that?!?  Makes the new postponement even more interesting ....................... how much this is now costing the Kalpoe benefactors is now beyond ludicrous!! There is NO chance of renumeration.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 10, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
Thanks Buckeye!   ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ::

::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance:: ::bananadance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on March 10, 2013, 10:48:13 PM
2K  ::monkeydenied::    ::monkeydenied::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 11, 2013, 02:23:38 AM
WOW! I had also missed that! However, let me shout out a belated WOO-HOO!!

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 11, 2013, 03:10:39 PM
There have been a couple of young girls(Arubans) go missing in Aruba recently:

http://www.awe24.com/


(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13827/1_1363013280.jpg)

leendert phone: come acro come across 4 hora happen come across, 11 of march 2013 10:10 Seccion: incident monitoring report form name & surname: rondon suarez Albani eloiza callsign / nickname: Albita / Albani birthdate provided That place: November 22, 1999 in Aruba (13 yr) address: Tanki Leendert job: pink college length: 1.60 m figure: slim skin color: light brown hair color: black hair style: shoulder length eyebrows: normal color v / d eyes: black nose: normal mouth: normal modes: normal speech / language : Papiamentu / spanish / english / Dutch & clothing (type & color): pink pants, gray t-shirt provided That white sport shoes. Last active: Albani was on 10 march 2012 around 20:30 pm, last, seen by her mother. this wax at home. Albani then had a discussion with her mother, she ran away. contact name: lilian marguerite Suarez Briceno the rondon (mother). Address: tankis

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13826/1_1363012629.jpg)

come across 4 hora happen come across, 11 of march 2013 10:05 Seccion: incident monitoring report form name & surname: Mirtha marilyn Espinal jimenez callsign / nickname: Mirtha birthdate provided That Place: Aruba, September 20, 2000 Address: Caya danza phone number: occupation: student (colegio oroabou) length: 1.58 meter stature: normal skin color: light brown hair color: black hair style: slightly unkempt eyebrows: full color v / d eyes: dark brown nose: little big mouth big teeth: NTV speech / language: Papiamentu / Spanish / Dutch particulars: pimples on forehead has provided That scar on left eyebrow Last active: Caya danza around 23:00 Contact Name: katherine, Espinal jimenez Address: Caya danza phone: come across

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13818/1_1362869586.jpg)

come across 1 day happen come across, 9 of march 2013 16:48 seccion: incidente here is follow the informacion of buskeda: tuesday for 6or of nightfall the hobencita here of 16 year of edad owing to leave for of cas for go party of one conosi y till still not owing to jega cas bek and of school we owing to find information cu the not owing to present at school niether come across. the la leave for of cas dress cu one jeans y top blanco.su name is destiny isabella and is visit la salle college.familiares owing to try take contacto cune but this is envano.porfabor esun cu can look at the or know algo of dje please take contacto cu tipline of police at 11141-104 or jama familiar at 5939840 come across



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 11, 2013, 07:52:01 PM
Missing you!  ::MonkeyAngel::  Rest in peace.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Please light a candle and say a prayer for Rose Anne aka 2NJ_SonsMom.  She passed on March 11, 2011. 
Link to candles:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=2NJ

Link to her memorial thread:
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 ::MonkeyAngel::

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 looking into attorney used by Atlantic Entertainment (MANSURS) in Florida that was also Gordon Liddy's attorney.

 
 
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 11, 2013, 08:49:34 PM
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I am a walrus



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Lifesong on March 12, 2013, 12:37:52 AM
I was looking for info on the "Extraordinary Relief" and came across an interesting article from December 2012:


Kalpoe Brothers Cannot Seek Punitive Damages       
Written by Information Provided to San Fernando Valley Sun   
Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:30

LOS ANGELES (CNS) - Two brothers who allege they were defamed on a "Dr. Phil" episode about Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba cannot seek punitive or general damages in their $800 million lawsuit, a judge affirmed.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe filed their complaint in December 2006 against Phil McGraw and CBS, maintaining their reputations were damaged in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show in which it was implied that they drugged the 18-year- old Alabama college student and raped her.

On Nov. 13, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William MacLaughlin granted a defense motion to prevent the Kalpoes from asking for punitive or general damages because they did not comply with the California Civil Code and make a written demand for a retraction of the material they believed was defamatory within 20 days.

Attorneys for the Kalpoes maintained in their court papers that the retraction rule only applied to media outlets engaged in the "immediate and rapid dissemination of news." They asked MacLaughlin today to reconsider his previous ruling, saying the Kalpoe siblings otherwise would be "stripped of their right to proceed on the full merits of the overwhelming majority of their causes of action."

The Kalpoe attorneys said the ruling affects 21 of their 24 causes of action. They claimed that demanding a retraction would have been futile and asked the judge to either reverse his prior ruling or hold off a final ruling until trial, when they could present additional evidence. MacLaughlin said he was denying the motion because they did not present any new facts or new law. "I'm certainly not unaware of the consequences of the court's ruling," the judge said.

MacLaughlin has yet to rule on whether the Kalpoes are public figures. If he makes that finding, the brother would have a higher standard of proof ahead of them to show they were defamed. Trial is scheduled for April 22.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.sanfernandosun.com/sanfernsun/news/8846-kalpoe-brothers-cannot-seek-punitive-damages-



::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::                             Hey Kalpoe's...                                         ::MonkeyHaHa::                                                   ::MonkeyHaHa::                        Remember when Joran said he had a contract with you for his share of the money from the lawsuit?                 ::monkeydenied::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2013, 02:12:48 AM
There have been a couple of young girls(Arubans) go missing in Aruba recently:

http://www.awe24.com/


(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13827/1_1363013280.jpg)

leendert phone: come acro come across 4 hora happen come across, 11 of march 2013 10:10 Seccion: incident monitoring report form name & surname: rondon suarez Albani eloiza callsign / nickname: Albita / Albani birthdate provided That place: November 22, 1999 in Aruba (13 yr) address: Tanki Leendert job: pink college length: 1.60 m figure: slim skin color: light brown hair color: black hair style: shoulder length eyebrows: normal color v / d eyes: black nose: normal mouth: normal modes: normal speech / language : Papiamentu / spanish / english / Dutch & clothing (type & color): pink pants, gray t-shirt provided That white sport shoes. Last active: Albani was on 10 march 2012 around 20:30 pm, last, seen by her mother. this wax at home. Albani then had a discussion with her mother, she ran away. contact name: lilian marguerite Suarez Briceno the rondon (mother). Address: tankis

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13826/1_1363012629.jpg)

come across 4 hora happen come across, 11 of march 2013 10:05 Seccion: incident monitoring report form name & surname: Mirtha marilyn Espinal jimenez callsign / nickname: Mirtha birthdate provided That Place: Aruba, September 20, 2000 Address: Caya danza phone number: occupation: student (colegio oroabou) length: 1.58 meter stature: normal skin color: light brown hair color: black hair style: slightly unkempt eyebrows: full color v / d eyes: dark brown nose: little big mouth big teeth: NTV speech / language: Papiamentu / Spanish / Dutch particulars: pimples on forehead has provided That scar on left eyebrow Last active: Caya danza around 23:00 Contact Name: katherine, Espinal jimenez Address: Caya danza phone: come across

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13818/1_1362869586.jpg)

come across 1 day happen come across, 9 of march 2013 16:48 seccion: incidente here is follow the informacion of buskeda: tuesday for 6or of nightfall the hobencita here of 16 year of edad owing to leave for of cas for go party of one conosi y till still not owing to jega cas bek and of school we owing to find information cu the not owing to present at school niether come across. the la leave for of cas dress cu one jeans y top blanco.su name is destiny isabella and is visit la salle college.familiares owing to try take contacto cune but this is envano.porfabor esun cu can look at the or know algo of dje please take contacto cu tipline of police at 11141-104 or jama familiar at 5939840 come across



http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/147193-tienermeiden-vermist

Google translation:


Teen Girls missing         

MONDAY, MARCH 11, 2013 6:39 P.M.

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/thumbnails/images-stories-2013-03-11-2590135-350x147.jpg)
(From left) Marilyn Espinal Mirtha Jimenez, Albani Eloiza Rondon Suarez and Destiny Sherylaine Isabella.


ORANGE CITY - Marilyn Espinal Mirtha Jimenez (12), Albani Eloiza Suarez Rondon (13) and Destiny Desje 'Sherylaine Isabella (16) are missing. That let the police know today.

Mirtha was late last week about eleven o'clock was last seen at her home in Caya Danza. She is 1 meter 58 has a medium build, light brown skin, dark brown eyes and black hair. She has full eyebrows and "a little unkempt 'hair style. Mirtha speak Papiamento, Spanish and Dutch. She has pimples on her forehead and a scar on her left eyebrow.

Also Albani was yesterday, about half past nine in the evening, was last seen by her mother. That was at home in Tanki Leendert. After a discussion with her mother, she ran away and never came back. Albani is 1 meter 60, has a slim build, shoulder-length black hair and light brown skin. She speaks Papiamento, Spanish, Dutch and English. Last night she had a pink pants, a gray T-shirt and white running shoes.

Destiny is missing since March 5. It is 1 meter 65 has a medium build, a fair complexion, brown eyes and thunder red curly hair. She was last seen in a blue jeans and a white top when she was at the end of the afternoon in her house Weverstraat left.

Police are asking anyone who sees one of these girls, to contact with the Department of Youth and Vice Police by calling 585-2500 or via phone 597-5151 or 597-5152 picket.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2013, 02:17:33 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba

Subscriber article

ATA pulls sponsorship Film Festival

MONDAY, MARCH 11, 2013 6:39 P.M.

ORANGE CITY - ATA (Aruba Tourism Authority) does not go as sponsor of the AIFF (Aruba International Film Festival). The PR results are good, but the financial situation is not, so ...

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2013, 02:36:59 AM
http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/nieuws/2013/03/08/marine-en-kustwacht-onderscheppen-1453-kilo-cocaine.html

Google translation:

Navy and Coast Guard intercepted 1,453 pounds of cocaine

Newsflash | 03/08/2013

In cooperation with the Coast Guard patrol vessel Hr. Ms. Friesland in the Caribbean Sea, a boat carrying 1,453 kilograms of cocaine intercepted. This happened last Monday, but at the request of the Public Prosecutor only announced today.


A Coast Guard patrol plane Caribbean received the suspicious boat the first time in the poll. Immediately afterwards, Hr. Ms. Friesland it graduated. The ship with 2 FRISC armed vessels, carrying a boarding team, and the Belgian Alouette-board helicopter took the speedboat eventually stop. The 3-man crew was arrested, the drug now destroyed.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Aruba%20Misc/03082013_1453lbsCocaineIntercepted_zps72f45ffb.jpg)
The boat intercepted the cocaine.

Real threat
At the time of the interception, Minister Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert a visit to the Leeward Islands. From Coast Guard cutter Panther, which Hennis and her company moved from Curacao to Aruba, they complimented telephone the commander of the Friesland and his crew with the catch.

Hennis: "This huge catch is something to be proud of and underlines the importance of our presence in the Caribbean part of our Kingdom. Again we international crime and corruption in their heels. It is precisely in this area where the threat from the sea is real, are a strong coastguard and navy Forever necessary. "

Commander of the Navy Caribbean, also Director of Coast Guard, Brigadier General Dick Swijgman praised the coordination of the interception. "Coast Guard and Navy have been shown to work well together when it comes."




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2013, 02:47:03 AM
In the news in Curacao

http://www.versgeperst.com/nieuws/200481/operatie-martillo-lijdt-onder-bezuinigingen-vs.html

Google translation:

Operation Martillo suffers cuts U.S.

03.11.2013 12:10 | NEWS | Leoni Leidel-Schenk

CURACAO - Heavy cuts in the United States (U.S.) ensure that less surveillance aircraft and naval vessels are used to transport drugs from Latin America a halt. It reports the Associated Press . The U.S. also works from airport Hato for Operation Martillo.

Radar Aircraft operating from airports in Costa Rica, Panama, El Salvador and Curaçao patrolling at sea looking for suspicious boats. If they notice a suspicious boat, alerting them to the local government and American ships in the vicinity. The U.S. Navy assists countries with a small navy with the holding of suspect ships.

Flight hours
The U.S. Customs and Borders Protection receives 1,900 flight hours less for P3 radar aircraft that are nearly 40 percent fewer flights in the fiscal year ending in September. This means that the operation this year only 800 flights may perform. Normally, a few times a week, which is now much less. The Coast Guard of the United States may be used by the cuts 25 percent fewer operations.

Operation Martillo
The Royal Navy in the Caribbean will participate in a major international drug operation under the name Operation Martillo '. The focus is particularly on the South and Central American waters. Netherlands is largely involved in the planning of this operation. The Navy has propelled units indefinitely deployed for the operation. The Coast Guard of the Caribbean will participate with the use of a maritime patrol aircraft and provides assistance in the interest of protecting the Kingdom Waters.

Focus
The United States is now planning to focus more on the coasts of Colombia, Venezuela and Ecuador. Most drugs boats leave from this place. "If we get fewer flying hours, then shift our interest to those areas where the probability of success is greatest," said Jose Ruiz, spokesman for the U.S. Southern Command opposite Associated Press .

http://www.versgeperst.com/nieuws/198204/kustwacht-verstoort-drugstransport-van-500-kilo.html

Google translation:

Coastguard disrupts drug shipment of 500 kilos
02.27.2013 10:50 | NEWS | Leoni Leidel-Schenk

Google translation:

CURACAO - The maritime patrol aircraft of the Coast Guard Caribbean, the DASH 8, during a routine patrol spotted a drug shipment of 500 kilograms disturbed. This was done under the direction of the Royal Navy led operation in the eastern part of the Caribbean Sea.

The action took place last week, but in connection with the follow-up study could this information not previously disclosed. The suspect vessel was observed from the air by the DASH 8. Soon after, the USCG Sector San Juan, a U.S. Coast Guard vessel at the time of detection in the vicinity of the suspect vessel was, sent it off.

Chase
The chase was not without a struggle. A boarding of the suspect vessel eventually resulted in a rescue operation, as the suspect drug boat crew left sinking. Based on estimates of the U.S. Drug Enforcement organization Joint Interagency Task Force South, that the implementation of the operation co-ordinated, this involved 500 kilograms drugs.

Drug Control Operation
The interception is credited with successes of the international drug control operation Martillo. In this operation many countries working together to international organized crime in Central America (and the Caribbean) a halt by illegal smuggling at sea and in the air. The operation is led by the Joint Interagency Task Force South, where the Commander of the Navy in the Caribbean, Brigadier General of Marines Dick Swijgman as one of the subordinate commanders part.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 12, 2013, 03:08:45 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Magnolia on March 14, 2013, 06:52:52 PM
I was looking for info on the "Extraordinary Relief" and came across an interesting article from December 2012:


Kalpoe Brothers Cannot Seek Punitive Damages       
Written by Information Provided to San Fernando Valley Sun   
Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:30

LOS ANGELES (CNS) - Two brothers who allege they were defamed on a "Dr. Phil" episode about Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba cannot seek punitive or general damages in their $800 million lawsuit, a judge affirmed.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe filed their complaint in December 2006 against Phil McGraw and CBS, maintaining their reputations were damaged in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show in which it was implied that they drugged the 18-year- old Alabama college student and raped her.

On Nov. 13, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William MacLaughlin granted a defense motion to prevent the Kalpoes from asking for punitive or general damages because they did not comply with the California Civil Code and make a written demand for a retraction of the material they believed was defamatory within 20 days.

Attorneys for the Kalpoes maintained in their court papers that the retraction rule only applied to media outlets engaged in the "immediate and rapid dissemination of news." They asked MacLaughlin today to reconsider his previous ruling, saying the Kalpoe siblings otherwise would be "stripped of their right to proceed on the full merits of the overwhelming majority of their causes of action."

The Kalpoe attorneys said the ruling affects 21 of their 24 causes of action. They claimed that demanding a retraction would have been futile and asked the judge to either reverse his prior ruling or hold off a final ruling until trial, when they could present additional evidence. MacLaughlin said he was denying the motion because they did not present any new facts or new law. "I'm certainly not unaware of the consequences of the court's ruling," the judge said.

MacLaughlin has yet to rule on whether the Kalpoes are public figures. If he makes that finding, the brother would have a higher standard of proof ahead of them to show they were defamed. Trial is scheduled for April 22.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.sanfernandosun.com/sanfernsun/news/8846-kalpoe-brothers-cannot-seek-punitive-damages-



::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::                             Hey Kalpoe's...                                         ::MonkeyHaHa::                                                   ::MonkeyHaHa::                        Remember when Joran said he had a contract with you for his share of the money from the lawsuit?                 ::monkeydenied::




Didn't the first judge declare that the Kalpoes WERE public figures when he ruled in the
Jamie Skeeters case?   I thought that was one of the reasons for dismissing the case against Jamie Skeeters estate.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2013, 02:44:01 AM
I was looking for info on the "Extraordinary Relief" and came across an interesting article from December 2012:


Kalpoe Brothers Cannot Seek Punitive Damages       
Written by Information Provided to San Fernando Valley Sun   
Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:30

LOS ANGELES (CNS) - Two brothers who allege they were defamed on a "Dr. Phil" episode about Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba cannot seek punitive or general damages in their $800 million lawsuit, a judge affirmed.

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe filed their complaint in December 2006 against Phil McGraw and CBS, maintaining their reputations were damaged in a Sept. 15, 2005, "Dr. Phil" show in which it was implied that they drugged the 18-year- old Alabama college student and raped her.

On Nov. 13, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William MacLaughlin granted a defense motion to prevent the Kalpoes from asking for punitive or general damages because they did not comply with the California Civil Code and make a written demand for a retraction of the material they believed was defamatory within 20 days.

Attorneys for the Kalpoes maintained in their court papers that the retraction rule only applied to media outlets engaged in the "immediate and rapid dissemination of news." They asked MacLaughlin today to reconsider his previous ruling, saying the Kalpoe siblings otherwise would be "stripped of their right to proceed on the full merits of the overwhelming majority of their causes of action."

The Kalpoe attorneys said the ruling affects 21 of their 24 causes of action. They claimed that demanding a retraction would have been futile and asked the judge to either reverse his prior ruling or hold off a final ruling until trial, when they could present additional evidence. MacLaughlin said he was denying the motion because they did not present any new facts or new law. "I'm certainly not unaware of the consequences of the court's ruling," the judge said.

MacLaughlin has yet to rule on whether the Kalpoes are public figures. If he makes that finding, the brother would have a higher standard of proof ahead of them to show they were defamed. Trial is scheduled for April 22.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.sanfernandosun.com/sanfernsun/news/8846-kalpoe-brothers-cannot-seek-punitive-damages-



::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::                             Hey Kalpoe's...                                         ::MonkeyHaHa::                                                   ::MonkeyHaHa::                        Remember when Joran said he had a contract with you for his share of the money from the lawsuit?                 ::monkeydenied::




Didn't the first judge declare that the Kalpoes WERE public figures when he ruled in the
Jamie Skeeters case?   I thought that was one of the reasons for dismissing the case against Jamie Skeeters estate.

Great to see you Magnolia!   ::HelloKitty::

I'm not sure he really ruled that they were, lots of "if they are properly deemed" this or that.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/09/natalee-holloway-estate-of-jamie-skeeters-wins-motion-to-strike-against-kalpoes-in-dr-phil-defamation-case/

(I've scanned and I think the public figure talk starts on Page 12.)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kalpoedrphil050609awm.pdf


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 15, 2013, 02:45:13 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 15, 2013, 01:06:59 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/274759/thumbs/r-DR-PHIL-MCGRAW-large570.jpg)

April 14th - be there or be square guys


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on March 15, 2013, 07:01:27 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/274759/thumbs/r-DR-PHIL-MCGRAW-large570.jpg)

April 14th - be there or be square guys
I guess you missed Klaas's new document a few pages back        ".....Continued to April 21, 2014"   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 16, 2013, 01:59:50 PM
There have been a couple of young girls(Arubans) go missing in Aruba recently:

http://www.awe24.com/


(http://ba1.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13827/1_1363013280.jpg)

leendert phone: come acro come across 4 hora happen come across, 11 of march 2013 10:10 Seccion: incident monitoring report form name & surname: rondon suarez Albani eloiza callsign / nickname: Albita / Albani birthdate provided That place: November 22, 1999 in Aruba (13 yr) address: Tanki Leendert job: pink college length: 1.60 m figure: slim skin color: light brown hair color: black hair style: shoulder length eyebrows: normal color v / d eyes: black nose: normal mouth: normal modes: normal speech / language : Papiamentu / spanish / english / Dutch & clothing (type & color): pink pants, gray t-shirt provided That white sport shoes. Last active: Albani was on 10 march 2012 around 20:30 pm, last, seen by her mother. this wax at home. Albani then had a discussion with her mother, she ran away. contact name: lilian marguerite Suarez Briceno the rondon (mother). Address: tankis

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13826/1_1363012629.jpg)

come across 4 hora happen come across, 11 of march 2013 10:05 Seccion: incident monitoring report form name & surname: Mirtha marilyn Espinal jimenez callsign / nickname: Mirtha birthdate provided That Place: Aruba, September 20, 2000 Address: Caya danza phone number: occupation: student (colegio oroabou) length: 1.58 meter stature: normal skin color: light brown hair color: black hair style: slightly unkempt eyebrows: full color v / d eyes: dark brown nose: little big mouth big teeth: NTV speech / language: Papiamentu / Spanish / Dutch particulars: pimples on forehead has provided That scar on left eyebrow Last active: Caya danza around 23:00 Contact Name: katherine, Espinal jimenez Address: Caya danza phone: come across

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13818/1_1362869586.jpg)

come across 1 day happen come across, 9 of march 2013 16:48 seccion: incidente here is follow the informacion of buskeda: tuesday for 6or of nightfall the hobencita here of 16 year of edad owing to leave for of cas for go party of one conosi y till still not owing to jega cas bek and of school we owing to find information cu the not owing to present at school niether come across. the la leave for of cas dress cu one jeans y top blanco.su name is destiny isabella and is visit la salle college.familiares owing to try take contacto cune but this is envano.porfabor esun cu can look at the or know algo of dje please take contacto cu tipline of police at 11141-104 or jama familiar at 5939840 come across



http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/147193-tienermeiden-vermist

Google translation:


Teen Girls missing         

MONDAY, MARCH 11, 2013 6:39 P.M.

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/thumbnails/images-stories-2013-03-11-2590135-350x147.jpg)
(From left) Marilyn Espinal Mirtha Jimenez, Albani Eloiza Rondon Suarez and Destiny Sherylaine Isabella.


ORANGE CITY - Marilyn Espinal Mirtha Jimenez (12), Albani Eloiza Suarez Rondon (13) and Destiny Desje 'Sherylaine Isabella (16) are missing. That let the police know today.

Mirtha was late last week about eleven o'clock was last seen at her home in Caya Danza. She is 1 meter 58 has a medium build, light brown skin, dark brown eyes and black hair. She has full eyebrows and "a little unkempt 'hair style. Mirtha speak Papiamento, Spanish and Dutch. She has pimples on her forehead and a scar on her left eyebrow.

Also Albani was yesterday, about half past nine in the evening, was last seen by her mother. That was at home in Tanki Leendert. After a discussion with her mother, she ran away and never came back. Albani is 1 meter 60, has a slim build, shoulder-length black hair and light brown skin. She speaks Papiamento, Spanish, Dutch and English. Last night she had a pink pants, a gray T-shirt and white running shoes.

Destiny is missing since March 5. It is 1 meter 65 has a medium build, a fair complexion, brown eyes and thunder red curly hair. She was last seen in a blue jeans and a white top when she was at the end of the afternoon in her house Weverstraat left.

Police are asking anyone who sees one of these girls, to contact with the Department of Youth and Vice Police by calling 585-2500 or via phone 597-5151 or 597-5152 picket.

Another one?  What's going on?

http://www.awe24.com/20130316/13878/Ta_ser_busca_e_mucha_perdi_aki_Henesy_Carty_Si_bo_a_mire_of_sa_unda_e_ta (http://www.awe24.com/20130316/13878/Ta_ser_busca_e_mucha_perdi_aki_Henesy_Carty_Si_bo_a_mire_of_sa_unda_e_ta)

(http://ba2.sim-img.net/awe24_archive/13878/1_1363454972.jpg)

Missing
Name: Henesy Carty

Age :16 years

Last seen on: 14 march 2013

Last seen at: Filomena College Mavo

Henesy has dark brown hair and dark brown eyes,she has piercing in her ears

If you have any info please call police 100 or 5644449 or 5618831


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Lifesong on March 16, 2013, 02:32:00 PM

So 4 girls missing now?   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::  One Happy Island.   ::MonkeyTears::




         BOYCOTT ARUBA!!                                    PROTECT YOUR DAUGHTERS - STAY AWAY FROM ARUBA!!                          


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on March 16, 2013, 03:56:42 PM
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/16/binnenland/advocaat_moordcomplot_tegen_joran_van_der_sloot.xml

Google translation

RTL News | March 16, 2013, 18:27
Lawyer: Money paid to Joran to life to bring
"Murder Conspiracy against Joran van der Sloot '


Joran van der Sloot, who is in jail in Lima, is threatened with death. His lawyer Maximo Altez, has alarm beaten by Peruvian police as an assassination plot against Van der Sloot would be going. That says Altez against RTL News.

Van der Sloot was yesterday at 23:00 from his cell and taken to another part of the Piedras Gordas prison are charged. In this section are according Maximo Altez most dangerous criminals of Peru that Joran 'like a cup size for a little money. "

In this section ('Pabellon 10'), Van der Sloot even seriously threatened with death, says his girlfriend Leidy. Joran has telephone contact with her. He asked his lawyer quickly to turn.

"Yesterday there was nothing wrong, I was visiting him. Just had contact with Joran, he was desperate. He did not know what to do, "said Leidy. What exactly is going on, it is also unclear to her. She is very worried about the fate of Van der Sloot.

"Money paid to Joran to life to bring '

Who is behind the alleged plot would sit and whether it is related to the cause for which he is attached, the murder of Stephany Flores, attorney Maximo Altes would not say. "That would be me and Joran in trouble."

However, the lawyer says that money paid to Joran to life. "It's serious," said Maximo Altez. "Joran is really in great danger." The lawyer wants to quickly discuss with the Dutch embassy and the management of the prison.

28 years cell
Soon begins the appeal in the case of Van der Sloot.  ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2013, 06:30:46 PM
IMO, IF/when that ever happens there will be no warning or threats.   

It will be over before we read about any "conspiracy".

Interesting again that the Dutch media has the story before the Peruvian media?

JMO

    ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyNoNo::
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 16, 2013, 06:35:51 PM

So 4 girls missing now?   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyNoNo::  One Happy Island.   ::MonkeyTears::




         BOYCOTT ARUBA!!                                    PROTECT YOUR DAUGHTERS - STAY AWAY FROM ARUBA!!                          

 ::rhino::

I think there are MANY more that we never read about.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

JMO



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on March 16, 2013, 08:56:01 PM
Is that article talking about a contract on Joran's life? I hope they don't transfer him to the NL.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on March 16, 2013, 09:08:50 PM
Is that article talking about a contract on Joran's life? I hope they don't transfer him to the NL.

Well..... most of us predicted Joran would not last THIS long in Peruvian prison. Not to cast aspersions, but I would bet the Flores family is finally taking matters into their own hands.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 16, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
Copied an excerpt from article grace-land posted above @ http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/16/binnenland/advocaat_moordcomplot_tegen_joran_van_der_sloot.xml

 ::snipping2::
"Van der Sloot was yesterday at 23:00 from his cell and taken to another part of the Piedras Gordas prison are charged. In this section are according Maximo Altez most dangerous criminals of Peru that Joran 'like a cup size for a little money. "
 ::snipping2::

I have no idea exactly what "like a cup size for little money" means, but I REALLY like the thought that Joran could be reduced to the size of a cup and then stuffed in it!   ::boxingjoran:: That way, he could be taken out like the trash he is!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 16, 2013, 11:02:02 PM
Sounds to me like there are prisoners that would kill Joran for a small amount of money  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on March 16, 2013, 11:19:40 PM
Where should I put the Monkey "Spare Change" cup??   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 17, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
Is that article talking about a contract on Joran's life? I hope they don't transfer him to the NL.

Well..... most of us predicted Joran would not last THIS long in Peruvian prison. Not to cast aspersions, but I would bet the Flores family is finally taking matters into their own hands.

I think that's just what Joran and his attorney want us to think.

That's why I don't believe it.

I think Joran just wants attention. 

If he is being threatened by other prisoners it's probably because he puts himself in that position!  How did Leidy supposedly "call him" when she'd supposedly just been there to visit?  Does he still have a cellphone?  We've all read about the horrible conditions...the food...is Joran still being sent money to keep him more comfortable than the other prisoners?  IF he is being threatened, is this why?

http://www.spitsnieuws.nl/archives/binnenland/2013/03/moordcomplot-tegen-joran

Google translation:

 ::snipping2::

Quote
Joran asked his girlfriend Leidy telephone his lawyer quickly to turn. "Yesterday there was nothing wrong, I was visiting him. Just called Joran, he was panicked. He did not know what to do, "said Leidy.

 ::snipping2::

"Leidy" is always a part of these BS stories.

I'm just not buying any of it!   ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

JMO


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 17, 2013, 11:54:19 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 17, 2013, 11:55:09 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/StephanyFlores_takentoosoon-1.jpg)

Justice for Stephany!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: RoxiBalboa on March 18, 2013, 10:17:26 AM
Although wishful thinking, I don't believe this story about Joran being threatened either. For one, if the bad guys in a separate part of the prison paid off guards to get Joran to their side they wouldn't waste opportunity with just threats. And two, poor Joran hasn't been in the news. He has to get his name back in the news. Everytime things quiet down about him he makes sure people start talking.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 18, 2013, 12:10:08 PM
Although wishful thinking, I don't believe this story about Joran being threatened either. For one, if the bad guys in a separate part of the prison paid off guards to get Joran to their side they wouldn't waste opportunity with just threats. And two, poor Joran hasn't been in the news. He has to get his name back in the news. Everytime things quiet down about him he makes sure people start talking.

(Bolded by me)
 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 18, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
(http://oi50.tinypic.com/290q1yf.jpg)

Somebody seems desperate for attention so they are sending around their stupid emails

Don't Fret - KALPOES WILL BE ON THE STAND SOON!

tick...tock.....[/b]




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 18, 2013, 03:33:48 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/274759/thumbs/r-DR-PHIL-MCGRAW-large570.jpg)

April 14th - be there or be square guys
I guess you missed Klaas's new document a few pages back        ".....Continued to April 21, 2014"   ::MonkeyEek::


April 21, 2013 is a Sunday.
I don't think a trial would start on a Sunday?



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 18, 2013, 03:37:04 PM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/274759/thumbs/r-DR-PHIL-MCGRAW-large570.jpg)

April 14th - be there or be square guys
I guess you missed Klaas's new document a few pages back        ".....Continued to April 21, 2014"   ::MonkeyEek::


April 21, 2013 is a Sunday.
I don't think a trial would start on a Sunday?



Kerm, isn't the date April 21, 2014, which would be a Monday?  It's next year, not next month.   ::MonkeyWink::
http://www.calendar-365.com/calendar/2014/April.html


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 18, 2013, 04:19:14 PM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 18, 2013, 04:47:19 PM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.

It's good to see you Kermit!    :smt006  This whole Dr.Phil/Kalpoe thing has been such a long, drawn-out affair with changes, delays & more delays.  It can be difficult to keep the details straight at times imo.   I hope you will have a full and speedy recovery.  Get well soon-er!! ::bee::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 18, 2013, 05:16:04 PM
TICK_TOCK

SATISH

&

DEEPAK


 ::piggy::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 18, 2013, 05:20:48 PM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mgr/lowres/mgrn220l.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 18, 2013, 07:03:06 PM
TICK_TOCK

SATISH

&

DEEPAK


 ::piggy::

Hey ya' KTF!!   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 18, 2013, 07:32:52 PM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mgr/lowres/mgrn220l.jpg)

HA HA
that is exactly what I looked like!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 18, 2013, 07:35:11 PM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.

It's good to see you Kermit!    :smt006  This whole Dr.Phil/Kalpoe thing has been such a long, drawn-out affair with changes, delays & more delays.  It can be difficult to keep the details straight at times imo.   I hope you will have a full and speedy recovery.  Get well soon-er!! ::bee::

Danki MuffyBee,



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 18, 2013, 07:40:53 PM
TICK_TOCK

SATISH

&

DEEPAK


 ::piggy::

Hi-ho KFT

Another year for those Leprechauns to wait. Heh heh

Dr. Phil is waiting ........







Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on March 18, 2013, 08:29:30 PM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mgr/lowres/mgrn220l.jpg)

HA HA
that is exactly what I looked like!


Hope you are feeling better!!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 19, 2013, 12:05:39 AM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mgr/lowres/mgrn220l.jpg)

HA HA
that is exactly what I looked like!



Get well soon Kermit!   ::HelloKitty:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 19, 2013, 03:54:30 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on March 19, 2013, 01:58:54 PM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/3411966/2013/03/19/Joran-van-der-Sloot-weer-terug-naar-oude-cel.dhtml

Google translation

"Joran van der Sloot back to old cell '
By Dolf Hendriks
03/13/19 - 16:54

Joran van der Sloot goes back to his old cell. The Peruvian prison INPE has authority to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that it is safe again. This reports the news agency Novum.

The murderer of Peruvian student Stephany Flores was earlier this week moved to another residence, because fellow detainees had been paid to Van der Sloot to kill. It is not clear why the danger has passed now.

According Maximo Altez, the lawyer for Van der Sloot, the threats came from the pavilion where his old cell belongs. Saturday Altez said on this matter by the ANP, "He's in a cell with three people. But occasionally he goes outside to ventilate or activities. On one of those moments prisoners approached him. They are murderers and he's a white man and so he by them as money. "
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 19, 2013, 02:04:25 PM
thank you wreck
and
texasmom



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: sharon on March 19, 2013, 04:33:40 PM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/3411966/2013/03/19/Joran-van-der-Sloot-weer-terug-naar-oude-cel.dhtml

Google translation

"Joran van der Sloot back to old cell '
By Dolf Hendriks
03/13/19 - 16:54

Joran van der Sloot goes back to his old cell. The Peruvian prison INPE has authority to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that it is safe again. This reports the news agency Novum.

The murderer of Peruvian student Stephany Flores was earlier this week moved to another residence, because fellow detainees had been paid to Van der Sloot to kill. It is not clear why the danger has passed now.

According Maximo Altez, the lawyer for Van der Sloot, the threats came from the pavilion where his old cell belongs. Saturday Altez said on this matter by the ANP, "He's in a cell with three people. But occasionally he goes outside to ventilate or activities. On one of those moments prisoners approached him. They are murderers and he's a white man and so he by them as money. "
 ::snipping2::


Thanks Grace-land!

It 'passed' because it was 'imaginary'.

Jmho :)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 19, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/3411966/2013/03/19/Joran-van-der-Sloot-weer-terug-naar-oude-cel.dhtml

Google translation

"Joran van der Sloot back to old cell '
By Dolf Hendriks
03/13/19 - 16:54

Joran van der Sloot goes back to his old cell. The Peruvian prison INPE has authority to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that it is safe again. This reports the news agency Novum.

The murderer of Peruvian student Stephany Flores was earlier this week moved to another residence, because fellow detainees had been paid to Van der Sloot to kill. It is not clear why the danger has passed now.

According Maximo Altez, the lawyer for Van der Sloot, the threats came from the pavilion where his old cell belongs. Saturday Altez said on this matter by the ANP, "He's in a cell with three people. But occasionally he goes outside to ventilate or activities. On one of those moments prisoners approached him. They are murderers and he's a white man and so he by them as money. "
 ::snipping2::


Thanks Grace-land!

It 'passed' because it was 'imaginary'.

Jmho :)

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 20, 2013, 01:58:39 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 20, 2013, 05:00:34 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Not fair!

 ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 20, 2013, 05:25:37 AM
Although wishful thinking, I don't believe this story about Joran being threatened either. For one, if the bad guys in a separate part of the prison paid off guards to get Joran to their side they wouldn't waste opportunity with just threats. And two, poor Joran hasn't been in the news. He has to get his name back in the news. Everytime things quiet down about him he makes sure people start talking.

(Bolded by me)
 ::rhino::

 ::rhino::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on March 20, 2013, 05:31:07 AM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mgr/lowres/mgrn220l.jpg)

HA HA
that is exactly what I looked like!


Hope you are feeling better!!  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Titch on March 20, 2013, 12:36:17 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_Holloway_beach.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::


Not fair!

 ::MonkeyMad::

::MonkeyTears:: What an adorable girl Natalee was in this picture.  ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on March 21, 2013, 02:38:48 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/english/147846--caribbean-area-maintains-role-in-organized-crime

Caribbean area maintains role in organized crime 
Tuesday, 19 March 2013 13:37

THE HAGUE — The Caribbean area will continue to play an important role in the organized crime. This appears from the fourth Monitor Organized Crime and the National Threat Picture 2012 (NDB) in which Curaçao, Aruba, Bonaire and St. Maarten are mentioned several times.Both reports give a picture of developments in the organized crime in and outside the Netherlands. Based on these reports, Minister of Justice, Ivo Opstelten, concludes that the current approach continues with the emphasis on drug production and smuggling control, human trafficking, fraud, child pornography, cyber crime, serious environment crime and money laundering practices. “In many cases the money is invested literally and figuratively close to home: in the living room, in an own company or in the own criminal trade. (…) However, just like the NDB, the Monitor concludes that the money laundering of criminal profits occur in more complicated ways. In that case it regards complex money laundering constructions with corporations or through international tax paradises”, the minister explained. 
 ::snipping2::
The Monitor Organized Crime offers several concrete examples of cases on Curaçao, for example where employees of a baggage handling company were involved with smuggling drugs via Schiphol, smuggling cocaine in food parcels, smuggling by swallowing balls of cocaine, and money laundering via corporations or by buying real estate. Both Aruba and Aruba are mentioned in a case where criminals invested in real estate by money laundering, while Aruba was also mentioned in smuggling drugs to Italy.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 21, 2013, 04:22:35 AM
TICK_TOCK

SATISH

&

DEEPAK


 ::piggy::

Hi-ho KFT

Another year for those Leprechauns to wait. Heh heh

Dr. Phil is waiting ........







I hope all is well and you are doing better, Kermit!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 21, 2013, 04:27:42 AM
ARUBA...

DO YOU GET IT YET?

STILL HERE!

STILL STANDING!

STILL FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE!

STILL ALIVE AND CAN'T BE SHUT UP!

MONKEY'S HAVE FOUR THINGS ARE THERE SIDE...

1.GOD
2.NATALEE HOLLOWAY
3.STEPHANY FLORES
4.TIME


TICK_TOCK


P.S. SURE DO MISS CAPSLOCKGIZZARD!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 21, 2013, 02:46:55 PM
Hi KTF
 ::HappyEaster::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 22, 2013, 08:13:57 PM
Hi KTF
 ::HappyEaster::
Happy Easter to you as well, Kermit. I will be spending some quality time over in Leavenworth, Wa. A very small, beautiful Bavarian Town in Washington.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on March 22, 2013, 08:20:33 PM
TICK_TOCK

SATISH

&

DEEPAK


 ::piggy::

Hey ya' KTF!!   ::HelloKitty::

Hi there, Muffy! Just been busy working and taking care of these final world language requirements. No mas espanol, por favor! Todavia tengo que tomar tres espanoles...Dios mio!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 22, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
Hi KTF
 ::HappyEaster::
Happy Easter to you as well, Kermit. I will be spending some quality time over in Leavenworth, Wa. A very small, beautiful Bavarian Town in Washington.

Sounds amazing.
' ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 22, 2013, 08:36:12 PM
Oh man, Muffy Bee, I had surgery and am still recovering.....did not see the rest of the date.
Thank you.

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mgr/lowres/mgrn220l.jpg)

HA HA
that is exactly what I looked like!


Hope you are feeling better!!  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::rhino::



danki BH
 ::HappyEaster::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 23, 2013, 02:00:35 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 23, 2013, 11:21:59 AM
http://www.caribbean-queen.com/

Caribbean Queen Aruba
Inspired by the West Indian woman’s strong penchant for self-adornment, Caribbean Queen celebrates all women by offering a truly impressive selection of fabulous fashion accessories. Beautifully decorated in the colonial-West Indies style, the boutique invites you to “Adorn Thyself” with its splendid array of jewelry, handbags, hats, hair ornaments, belts, and shoes. Each month, Caribbean Queen also features the handcrafted accessories of a local female artisan, thereby promoting the artistic talents of women in Aruba.

“Adorn yourself with eminence and dignity, and clothe yourself with honor and majesty.”


http://www.caribbean-queen.com/about-caribbean-queen/

A Queen is Born
Having worked in St. Kitts and Nevis, Jamaica, St. Lucia, and Curacao prior to settling down in Aruba, our store’s founder recognized that no matter how unique each Caribbean island is in terms of culture and tradition, they all have one thing in common: the backbone of society is the strong and lively spirit of the West Indian woman.

Inspired by the care and attention these magnificent women put into presenting themselves each day, the idea to open a boutique with fabulous accessories befitting a “Caribbean queen” was conceived. The boutique would honor the daughters of the Aruban soil, as well as celebrate those who came to Aruba, put their feet in the soil, and bloomed. In December 2011, the idea was realized with the birth of Caribbean Queen at Palm Beach Plaza Mall.

In order to promote the artistic talent that thrives so vibrantly on Aruba, each month a local female artisan is invited to showcase and sell her unique handmade accessories at Caribbean Queen. For some of these artists, this invitation provides the opportunity to present their work to the Aruban public for the very first time.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.caribbean-queen.com/featured-queens/anita-otilia-hugen/

(http://www.caribbean-queen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013-02-Anita-Hugen-February-300x300.jpg)

Anita Otilia Hugen Artist
Caribbean Queen for February 2013
We are proud to introduce our Caribbean Queen for the month of February 2013, local artist Anita Otilia Hugen, prominently displaying her beautiful and bold jewelry in the store.

Anita has been drawing, molding, building and experimenting with different materials and techniques, practically since the day she was born, she banters. Having been raised in Europe, she enjoyed a wealth of opportunities to travel with her family and on organized school activities. In her formative years as a budding artist she visited several great cities where culture was highlighted through fantastic architecture, museums and art galleries.
Thus it came as no surprise when with the help of a charismatic high school art teacher, she decided to opt for a career in Fine Arts and Art Education.

Anita enrolled at age seventeen in one of the best art schools in the Netherlands where it took her three years to graduate, as a Bachelor in Art Education. She then obtained a Masters degree with a minor in Art History, in the following two years.

Her life changed significantly when she moved to Aruba in 1990, taking a position as art teacher at the International School of Aruba, where she still teach today, with the same great enthusiasm, as the day she started. In her role as educator she is able to share discoveries she makes while working with color, texture, patterns and different media and techniques, with her high school students.

Art is a life long journey, she explains, having enjoyed a Solo exhibition in the Netherlands, several group exhibitions in Europe, as well as a Solo exhibition in Aruba and Ceramics, a group exhibition, here at Atelier 89, in February 2012. Anita’s latest endeavor was the Jazz Art, group exhibition at Cas di Cultura, Aruba in October 2012.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 23, 2013, 11:24:16 AM
https://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=43411

Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 30 NOVEMBER 2011 under serial number 24888.5 is the company with the tradename:

 
CARIBBEAN QUEEN

 
Business address   L.G. SMITH BLVD. 95, NOORD
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   THE LAZY LIZARD N.V.
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   22 JUNE 1999
    
Authorized capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Paid up capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
Main branch: THE LAZY LIZARD N.V. registered under number 24888 located at PALM BEACH 55, SOUTH BEACH CENTRE, NOORD
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

TOBMAN, JODI LISA;
Born in   U.S.A., BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS on 06 JUNE 1960
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   22 JUNE 1999
Authority   FULL
 
PURCELL, MARLENE KAY;
Born in   U.S.A., ILLINOIS on 06 NOVEMBER 1957
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   PROXY
Effective   16 AUGUST 2012
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
DE KLEINHANDEL INSOUVENIRARTIKELEN, KLEINE GESCHENKARTIKELEN, SIERADEN, TOILETARTIKELEN, KLEDING EN SCHOEISEL.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 23, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
http://www.caribbean-queen.com/i-am-a-caribbean-queen-caribbean-queen-store-opening-highlights-fashion-arts-and-community/caribbean-queen-opening-night-the-guests-008-2/

(http://www.caribbean-queen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Caribbean-Queen-Opening-Night-The-Guests-0081.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 23, 2013, 12:33:57 PM
Eyelift  ::MonkeyCool::  Note for a long time now she dropped the SLOOT from her name.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 23, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
Looks like she drops "Anita" from her name sometimes too...   ::MonkeyRoll::

http://www.etsy.com/people/Anitart?ref=owner_profile_leftnav

Otilia Hugen's Profile
About
Being an art teacher I have little time to create my glass jewelry, but I do it with so much pleasure that you can find me at least three times a week in my studio.
Every piece of jewelry is unique and you can always ask for something specific in color and style. When you order your piece I will wrap it nicely and itcomes with a little tag, ready to give out as a gift.

Female
Born on August 19
Joined November 9, 2010


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 23, 2013, 02:59:37 PM
http://archive.peruthisweek.com/news-13912-peruvian-lawyer-demands-release-of-van-der-sloot/

Latest News in Peru / Archive

Crime | January 20, 2011 [ 17:28 ]
Peruvian lawyer demands release of van der Sloot

LivinginPeru.com

Peruvian lawyers for Joran van der Sloot demand authorities to formally interrogate his client or set him free. Joran van der Slot has been imprisoned in Peru's Castro Castro prison for nine months on charges he killed 21-year-old student Stephany Flores.

 ::snipping2::

Quote
Otilia Denboer says :
January 21, 2011 [ 10:42 ]

It is not for us to condemn this young person. Innocent until proven guilty. The media made a circus out of the case.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on March 23, 2013, 09:41:51 PM
Joran is like every other inmate,wrongly convicted.  Personally, I'm pleased when he rattles the cage door.  It means he's not happy and that makes  me happy to hear.

 ::HappyEaster:: ::HappyEaster:: ::HappyEaster::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 23, 2013, 10:37:40 PM
Eyelift  ::MonkeyCool::  Note for a long time now she dropped the SLOOT from her name.   ::MonkeyCool::




I wonder what Val and Sebastian think about it?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on March 24, 2013, 12:08:55 AM
Eyelift  ::MonkeyCool::  Note for a long time now she dropped the SLOOT from her name.   ::MonkeyCool::




I wonder what Val and Sebastian think about it?

Val is still a Sloot.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/valentijn-sloot/22/b28/8b0

Valentijn Sloot
Agent Assistant at Super Artists, Inc.

LocationLos Angeles, California (Greater Los Angeles Area) IndustryMedia Production
 ::snipping2::
Agent Assistant Super Artists, Inc.
Privately Held; 1-10 employees; Entertainment industry

September 2012 – Present (7 months)
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 24, 2013, 02:04:34 PM
Looks like she drops "Anita" from her name sometimes too...   ::MonkeyRoll::

http://www.etsy.com/people/Anitart?ref=owner_profile_leftnav

Otilia Hugen's Profile
About
Being an art teacher I have little time to create my glass jewelry, but I do it with so much pleasure that you can find me at least three times a week in my studio.
Every piece of jewelry is unique and you can always ask for something specific in color and style. When you order your piece I will wrap it nicely and itcomes with a little tag, ready to give out as a gift.

Female
Born on August 19
Joined November 9, 2010

Otilia - Atilla the Hun - it's all the same.

She dropped her Sloot last name soon as Paulus was announced dead.





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 24, 2013, 02:05:08 PM
Eyelift  ::MonkeyCool::  Note for a long time now she dropped the SLOOT from her name.   ::MonkeyCool::

Papa Sloot must have left her some life insurance money eh?



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 24, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
https://www.arubachamber.com/templates/kvk/view_extract.php?k=43411

Only valid if accordingly signed by the Aruba Chamber of Commerce & Industry - J.E. Irausquin Blvd. 10, Oranjestad, Aruba.

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 30 NOVEMBER 2011 under serial number 24888.5 is the company with the tradename:

 
CARIBBEAN QUEEN

 
Business address   L.G. SMITH BLVD. 95, NOORD
Legal form   LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company   THE LAZY LIZARD N.V.
Statutory seat   ARUBA
Date of incorporation   22 JUNE 1999
    
Authorized capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00
Issued capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Paid up capital   ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00
Fiscal year   01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER
 
Main branch: THE LAZY LIZARD N.V. registered under number 24888 located at PALM BEACH 55, SOUTH BEACH CENTRE, NOORD
 
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

TOBMAN, JODI LISA;
Born in   U.S.A., BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS on 06 JUNE 1960
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective   22 JUNE 1999
Authority   FULL
 
PURCELL, MARLENE KAY;
Born in   U.S.A., ILLINOIS on 06 NOVEMBER 1957
Nationality   AMERICAN
Position   PROXY
Effective   16 AUGUST 2012
Authority   FULL
 
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY
DE KLEINHANDEL INSOUVENIRARTIKELEN, KLEINE GESCHENKARTIKELEN, SIERADEN, TOILETARTIKELEN, KLEDING EN SCHOEISEL.


Well look at that - it's a complete circle jerk.




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 24, 2013, 02:18:56 PM
Quote
Otilia Denboer says :
January 21, 2011 [ 10:42 ]

It is not for us to condemn this young person. Innocent until proven guilty. The media made a circus out of the case.

 ::snipping2::
[/quote]

Otilia aka Anita van der Sloot
Someone needs to wipe that poop-eaten grin off yer face once and for all. And guess what we are going to do it.
Natatlee Holloway is coming home to the USA no matter how long it takes you piece of crap of an excuse for a mother.
Your son MURDERED TWO, NOT ONE, BUT TWO INNOCENT GIRLS! Next time before you go around the internet posting more of your lies under your fake names - go look at the crime scene photos of poor little Stephany - that is what your son did to her. He is a monster and so are you! [/b]


excuse my rant monkeys, but this nitwit and her son are deplorable human beings & I had to express myself.







Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 24, 2013, 08:07:20 PM
Eyelift  ::MonkeyCool::  Note for a long time now she dropped the SLOOT from her name.   ::MonkeyCool::




I wonder what Val and Sebastian think about it?

Val is still a Sloot.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/valentijn-sloot/22/b28/8b0

Valentijn Sloot
Agent Assistant at Super Artists, Inc.

LocationLos Angeles, California (Greater Los Angeles Area) IndustryMedia Production
 ::snipping2::
Agent Assistant Super Artists, Inc.
Privately Held; 1-10 employees; Entertainment industry

September 2012 – Present (7 months)
 ::snipping2::





I know that they both still go by the Sloot name. I meant, I wonder what they think about their Mother dropping their Fathers name.  I don't think my sons would be very happy with me, if I did that.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 25, 2013, 01:45:23 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on March 25, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Eyelift  ::MonkeyCool::  Note for a long time now she dropped the SLOOT from her name.   ::MonkeyCool::




I wonder what Val and Sebastian think about it?

Val is still a Sloot.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/valentijn-sloot/22/b28/8b0

Valentijn Sloot
Agent Assistant at Super Artists, Inc.

LocationLos Angeles, California (Greater Los Angeles Area) IndustryMedia Production
 ::snipping2::
Agent Assistant Super Artists, Inc.
Privately Held; 1-10 employees; Entertainment industry

September 2012 – Present (7 months)
 ::snipping2::





I know that they both still go by the Sloot name. I meant, I wonder what they think about their Mother dropping their Fathers name.  I don't think my sons would be very happy with me, if I did that.

Yes can you imagine being the kid of Anita's and all the stuff she does. Not a day of mourning PAPA.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on March 25, 2013, 07:10:15 PM
Anita, has ice water for blood i her veins.

I'm glad she keeps changing her name.  It means she's trying to get away from something and we all know what keeps her awake at night swigging on the bottle.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: SuzieQ on March 25, 2013, 08:47:04 PM
Eyelift  ::MonkeyCool::  Note for a long time now she dropped the SLOOT from her name.   ::MonkeyCool::




I wonder what Val and Sebastian think about it?

Val is still a Sloot.  ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/valentijn-sloot/22/b28/8b0

Valentijn Sloot
Agent Assistant at Super Artists, Inc.

LocationLos Angeles, California (Greater Los Angeles Area) IndustryMedia Production
 ::snipping2::
Agent Assistant Super Artists, Inc.
Privately Held; 1-10 employees; Entertainment industry

September 2012 – Present (7 months)
 ::snipping2::





I know that they both still go by the Sloot name. I meant, I wonder what they think about their Mother dropping their Fathers name.  I don't think my sons would be very happy with me, if I did that.

Yes can you imagine being the kid of Anita's and all the stuff she does. Not a day of mourning PAPA.





 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 26, 2013, 11:53:22 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!


 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 28, 2013, 07:34:09 PM
http://www.cornwallseawaynews.com/News/2013-03-28/article-3209247/Mother-of-lost-teen-to-speak-at-CTC-event/1

Mother of lost teen to speak at CTC event
 
(http://www.cornwallseawaynews.com/media/photos/unis/2013/03/27/photo_2308725_resize_article.jpg)
Beth Holloway

Published on March 28, 2013
   
CORNWALL, Ontario - The devastated mother of a murder victim will speak to local stakeholders at a charity event in May.

Beth Holloway lost her daughter Natalee when the young woman vanished on a high school graduation trip to Aruba in 2005.

Natalee was scheduled to fly home on May 30, but failed to appear for her flight.

She was last seen by her classmates outside a Caribbean chain restaurant and nightclub in a car with local males. When questioned, the men said they dropped her off at her hotel and denied knowing what became of Natalie.

She was later declared dead.

On May 1 Beth Holloway will recount the tragedy of the loss at the Cornwall Civic Complex during the Children’s Treatment Centre Bike-A-Thon Plus Kick-Off Breakfast.

Holloway tells her story at various events as a motivational speaker. She has also established the Natalee Holloway Resource Centre — an organization that supports families who struggle to locate information on missing loved ones.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 28, 2013, 07:44:31 PM
http://zappen.blog.nl/sbs-broadcasting/2013/03/23/robert-jensen-wil-terug-naar-begintijd-met-talkshow

Google translation:

Robert Jensen wants to return to start with talk show

Robert Jensen has a press offensive deployed. His new talk show is about to begin (Veronica has the start date postponed for two weeks, but the press day is already been), and curiosity must be aroused. Yet it is still completely unclear what Jensen and Jensen Later Let be. In the interviews with the AD and De Telegraaf let Robert know in particular what it should not be.

Looking back over the last few years on RTL 5 he says: "I turned to one point five shows a week. Retrospect, maybe too much. The guests were less interesting and that gave me the feeling that I had to make fun of the program itself. Therefore I lost a little sight what it was. That sort of thing is only when you get away from doing. There's been good for the rest Gap Year. I have all the time to the old episodes to look back, and think. "

"Of course you see the evening already enough interviews on television, but my show speaks is often a younger audience. This is at least in the past proved, "he says in De Telegraaf. "Also, the format changed. My sidekick John has become a job at the radio. So the conversations are one-on-one. I want to again go back to the beginning of my television shows. Good conversations with various guests. Of course there is room for humor, but not in the way of my latest shows. "

Veronica he make 20 shows, where it was originally planned to take care of eight episodes. "It seems very nice to the guests that I had my first shows, again asking. To see how it goes with them. The most impressive transmissions were for me with Pim Fortuyn and Bart de Graaff. Patty Brard, Emile Ratelband and Jomanda were also in the beginning of my show. But I also Geert Wilders, the Prime Minister and Beth Holloway had. After a year there from it all, it is nice to all the guests to speak again. "


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 28, 2013, 08:19:03 PM
http://guardian.co.tt/columnist/2013-03-24/want-hit-world-news-get-shot-barbados?qt-realestate_classfieds=0

Want to hit the World News? Get shot in Barbados

Published:
Sunday, March 24, 2013
Mark Wilson
 
Most visits to the Caribbean are trouble-free. Barbados does feel safe. But worries are not entirely irrational.

Last Sunday, two British cruise ship passengers, Philip and Ann Prior, 72 and 59 years old, took an afternoon stroll around Bridgetown in Barbados. A few minutes walk from the duty-free shops of Broad Street, they were held up and shot. Philip Prior got a bullet close to his pelvis, Ann in her thigh; the thieves snatched her handbag.
 
By Monday, the Priors were Big World News. “British couple on Caribbean cruise shot by armed robber” led the website of the Sun, the largest-selling English tabloid. The story took second spot in the Daily Mail online. The Mail has reach – it’s a British tabloid, but also the tenth-listed news site in the US, ahead of Reuters, ABC News and USA Today.
 
Sun and Mail stories took their life from an on-the-spot picture, a blurry shot supplied by celebrity photo site, Splash News. It showed Mrs Prior on the ground, comforted by onlookers, one of them squeezing her hand.
 
At the sober end of the market, the BBC, Guardian, Telegraph and Independent all carried the tale. The Washington Post, Miami Herald and Montreal Star picked up the story from Associated Press.
 
And Barbados? The online Nation tacked just 28 words about the Priors onto a Monday story about a murder and a hit-and-run.
 
On Wednesday a draft statement on Sunday’s shooting was “awaiting the approval” of the tourism minister. A bland release appeared later. By then it didn’t matter what it said – he was three days too late for the international media. “This is a sensitive matter,” said an un-named official. When cellphone photos can flash round the world in seconds, a measured response to bad news does not cut it.
 
It could all have been worse. The Priors were badly shaken; their dream cruise was wrecked. But they were alive. The island’s Queen Elizabeth hospital is nearby. Both were out of the wards by Wednesday. Bridgetown is well-sprinkled with police and CCTV cameras; two suspects were in custody by Monday. This was not a Tivoli gun-battle or a Haiti earthquake.
 
 ::snipping2::
 
In Barbados, the story hit a raw nerve. The economy is shaky. Arrivals from Britain, the main tourist market, are down again this year. Those who do come are careful with their cash.
 
I called a Barbadian friend on Monday to check his thoughts. He was strengthening his burglar bars after a break-in. Barbados is safer than Trinidad or Jamaica, but no paradise.
 
Police are jumpy about the thriving cash-for-gold business. After four shootings in 18 days, Barbadians were warned in January not to wear too much jewellery in public. A Precious Metals and Second-Hand Metals Act passed that month requires ID for those offering gold for sale, and bans hard-to-trace cash payments.
 
Two days before the Priors were attacked, police seized close to TT$3 million in bling from Barbados Gold Buyers – around a hundred metres from the site of the shooting. Another jeweller was arrested last Wednesday.
 
Will stories like this hit tourist arrivals? It is hard to say. The Mail carried 342 online reader comments. From Canada: “My brother and his wife were attacked savagely in Tobago, changing their lives for ever.” From New Zealand: “I would not go to one of those countries if you paid me.” From a London suburb: “I feel safer in Barbados than I do in England.”
 
Most visits to the Caribbean are trouble-free. And yes, Barbados does feel safe. But worries are not entirely irrational. Another British couple, Professor James Bridges and his wife Olga, aged 72 and 62, were stabbed and robbed soon after arriving at a luxury villa in January.
 
There are few statistics on crime and tourism – and they don’t tell the full story. Harassment by would-be drug dealers goes unreported. So does much petty crime. Tourists want to shake off a nasty incident and forget, not spend hours in a police station. For the authorities in any country, there is a temptation to under-record. Conversely, it’s not unknown for a dishonest visitor to report a “stolen” camera or BlackBerry for insurance purposes.
 
Tobago has had its share of crime-related press. Remember Peter and Murium Green? That case dragged on for years, with no closure. A 2010 rape of two British women in Barbados remains unresolved. Natalee Holloway disappeared on Aruba in 2005, a pretty 18-year old on a high school trip. No body, no closure; the story was every mother’s nightmare.
 
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 28, 2013, 08:23:11 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on March 28, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
There was talk of reassigning to a new judge but I guess that won't happen.  Not sure it matters  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CaseAssignment0321132_zps9be88d7f.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 28, 2013, 10:00:15 PM
Thanks Klaas!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: can on March 29, 2013, 08:05:50 AM
the clock is ticking. . .

God bless Natalee and her loved ones. ::MonkeyAngel:: ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on March 29, 2013, 10:49:49 AM
There was talk of reassigning to a new judge but I guess that won't happen.  Not sure it matters  ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/CaseAssignment0321132_zps9be88d7f.jpg)

With all the delays, maybe there's concern the judge will pass away from old age...  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on March 29, 2013, 11:26:22 AM
Sounds to me like there are prisoners that would kill Joran for a small amount of money  ::MonkeyCool::


Probably some would do it for fun!

Doesn't sound like he is living like a king after all.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on March 29, 2013, 11:28:20 AM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/3411966/2013/03/19/Joran-van-der-Sloot-weer-terug-naar-oude-cel.dhtml

Google translation

"Joran van der Sloot back to old cell '
By Dolf Hendriks
03/13/19 - 16:54

Joran van der Sloot goes back to his old cell. The Peruvian prison INPE has authority to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that it is safe again. This reports the news agency Novum.

The murderer of Peruvian student Stephany Flores was earlier this week moved to another residence, because fellow detainees had been paid to Van der Sloot to kill. It is not clear why the danger has passed now.

According Maximo Altez, the lawyer for Van der Sloot, the threats came from the pavilion where his old cell belongs. Saturday Altez said on this matter by the ANP, "He's in a cell with three people. But occasionally he goes outside to ventilate or activities. On one of those moments prisoners approached him. They are murderers and he's a white man and so he by them as money. "
 ::snipping2::



Heh, heh

If they want him, they will get him.  He's just a can of lighter fluid away at any given time.

Doncha know he is scared witless 24/7.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on March 29, 2013, 11:29:19 AM
http://www.caribbean-queen.com/i-am-a-caribbean-queen-caribbean-queen-store-opening-highlights-fashion-arts-and-community/caribbean-queen-opening-night-the-guests-008-2/

(http://www.caribbean-queen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Caribbean-Queen-Opening-Night-The-Guests-0081.jpg)


Well, now we know where Joran gets his excessively hairy arms!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on March 29, 2013, 11:33:59 AM
Did I wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something this morning?

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Without punitive damages, Kalpoes are not looking at very much in any event and most likely having to pay Dr Phil's attorney fees and so forth.

At this rate, they are going to be in Old Folks Home before it even gets to trial.  Deepak likely to need a walker to take the witness stand.   

I wonder what happens when they are no longer receiving funding for their attorney.  Do they have enough sense to realize they have been used?  Not the brightest, those two.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on March 31, 2013, 08:15:41 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!


 ::justice2NJ::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 01, 2013, 07:11:29 PM
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/Binnenland/article/detail/3418666/2013/04/02/Joran-van-der-Sloot-wil-zaak-hoger-beroep-bijwonen.dhtml

Google translation

Joran van der Sloot would issue an appeal to attend
Edited by: admin - 02/04/13, 00:38 - Source: Reuters

The appeal of Joran van der Sloot in Peru is in June. Although it is not common that the detainee himself at this sitting, Van der Sloot made ​​an application to join can be. Joran van der Sloot has announced that the ANP, through his lawyer Máximo Altez. .

Van der Sloot is that he should stand trial for manslaughter and not murder because he Stephany Flores not premeditated would have slain. It was a reaction after "much accumulated frustration and grief after the death of my father in 2010," he says.

repentance
Van der Sloot is hoping to appeal to substantial sentence.  ::snipping2::

Another thing that is still running, the request for the whole process about to do for the Inter-American Court of Human Rights of the Organization of American States. Van der Sloot maintains that his arrest was illegal in Chile. It may take several years before the Court ruling.

marry
Van der Sloot admits that he is going to marry his girlfriend Leidy and that the Director of the Piedras Gordas prison, where he is, there consented to. He must arrange for this paper and expect it in a few months time comes.

He also in August of 2012 had a visit from his mother. The American Mary Hamer still pay his legal fees. But him sitting there in his three Dutch prison. That he sees the visit of the Dutch embassy.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 01, 2013, 09:43:10 PM
http://valentijnvandersloot.com/  (Edit to fix link.  MB)
Valentijn van der Sloot

https://plus.google.com/109847627521248084045/posts


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j4Rz-8kRnvE/T9Q5HopacPI/AAAAAAAAABw/VXzwNMO3B0o/w703-h711-p-o-k/Crystal%2Bboat%2B.jpg)
https://plus.google.com/116667903278729334501/posts



http://nchchonors.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Vandersloot-Valentijn-SIRP-Final-Paper.pdf
Valentijn van der Sloot
HS103B paper

https://soundcloud.com/valentijn-van-der-sloot/followers
Valentijn

http://about.me/ValentijnvanderSloot
Valentijn

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.211535205523340.57111.146284632048398&type=3



http://klout.com/ValentijnHere


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 01, 2013, 09:46:02 PM
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/Binnenland/article/detail/3418666/2013/04/02/Joran-van-der-Sloot-wil-zaak-hoger-beroep-bijwonen.dhtml

Google translation

He also in August of 2012 had a visit from his mother.

She went to visit him for his birthday. He'll be 26 this year.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 01, 2013, 11:33:59 PM
http://valentijnvandersloot.com/ Edit to fix link.  MB
Valentijn van der Sloot

https://plus.google.com/109847627521248084045/posts


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j4Rz-8kRnvE/T9Q5HopacPI/AAAAAAAAABw/VXzwNMO3B0o/w703-h711-p-o-k/Crystal%2Bboat%2B.jpg)
https://plus.google.com/116667903278729334501/posts



http://nchchonors.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Vandersloot-Valentijn-SIRP-Final-Paper.pdf
Valentijn van der Sloot
HS103B paper

https://soundcloud.com/valentijn-van-der-sloot/followers
Valentijn

http://about.me/ValentijnvanderSloot
Valentijn

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.211535205523340.57111.146284632048398&type=3



http://klout.com/ValentijnHere


That looks like Sea-Bass aka Sebastian.  


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 02, 2013, 01:53:55 AM
http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/748076/van_der_sloot_vraagt_spreektijd_bij_hoger_beroep

Google translation

Published on Tuesday, April 2, 2013 at 6:41:08
Van der Sloot asks Speaking at appeals

(AP) - Joran van der Sloot has officially requested to speak his appeal in June. That says his lawyer Máximo Altez at Reuters News. According to counsel, this is uncommon and there is a good chance that the judges did not agree.

"Joran wants to apologize to the family Stephany Flores because he has killed," said Altez. Van der Sloot has repeatedly apologized, but the court of first instance believed that he did this to get reduced sentences. Altez think the judges talk to the Dutchman can not see because there are "too many people" would come on down.

The family lawyer Flores, Edward Alvarez said they do not know whether he will be present at the session. "I still have the father of Stephany required. Because he wants the matter should leave behind," said the counselor.

It was already known that the June meeting would take place, the date is yet to be determined. A week after the meeting would already be clear whether the judges agree with the passage of the appeal.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 02, 2013, 06:51:50 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/148693-joran-wil-aanwezig-zijn-bij-hoger-beroep-in-juni

Google translation:

Joran would be present at appeal in June         

TUESDAY, APRIL 2, 2013 4:32 P.M.

ORANGE CITY - Joran van der Sloot has asked to be present at the appeal in June. He has through his lawyer Máximo Altez to the Dutch news agency ANP announced.

It is not usual in Peru that a detainee is present upon the appeal, which is why he has made a special request. Joran thinks he is to stand trial for manslaughter and not murder because he Stephany Flores not premeditated has slain. It was a reaction after "much accumulated frustration and grief after the death of my father in 2010," he says. Joran hopes for substantial sentence. He was initially 28 years in prison, but would they say even under 15 should get because he pleaded guilty and has repented.


Mensenrechtenho f

Parallel to the appeal is also the reference for the whole process about. This request was submitted to the Inter-American Court of Human Rights of the Organization of American States. Joran maintains that his arrest in Chile and the subsequent deportation to Peru was illegal. It may take several years before the Court in this case ruling.


Wedding planne n

Joran has confirmed that he will marry his girlfriend Leidy and that the Director of the Piedras Gordas prison - where he is - there consented to. He must arrange for this paper and expect it in a few months time comes. He also had a visit last August from his mother. The American Mary Hamer still pay his legal fees. But him sitting there in his three Dutch prison. That he sees the visit of the Dutch embassy.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 02, 2013, 06:54:25 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/148694-jaar-cel-geeist-voor-miljoenenfraude-merryweather

Google translation:

Years in jail for million fraud Merryweather         

TUESDAY, APRIL 2, 2013 4:32 P.M.

ORANGE CITY - The Public Prosecutor (OM) has up to one year in prison and a fine of a quarter million florins sought against Herbert 'Herbie' Merryweather (58). He is suspected of years of tax evasion, tax fraud, money laundering and illegal possession of firearms. In total he has according to prosecutor about 6 million florins in taxes verdonkermaand.

His partner, Francine De Lannoy-Merryweather (57), heard last week during the treatment of the lawsuit against a sentence of five months are requirements for its share of the tax. The court will rule on 18 April. The Merryweathers its owners include the famous fish restaurant Driftwood.

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On 30 March 2011, the authorities conducted raids in homes and businesses of the family Merryweather. This happened in our country, but also in Colombia, where the family also possessions. Philip Herbert and son were arrested because during the searches illegal firearms were found. After having spent a few days, let the magistrate father and son Fri On June 9, Herbert was arrested again and this time Francine was also arrested in connection with the investigation of tax evasion. A month later the custody of them lifted by the court. The prosecution went here unsuccessfully appealed.

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Lawyer Chris Lejuez is the requirement of the OM too high, so let him know in other media. His clients have indeed admitted to have evaded taxes, but have since been a payment made by the tax authorities. They would according Lejuez three million florins in back taxes for their companies to pay and 750,000 florins private.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 02, 2013, 06:57:00 PM
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 02, 2013, 07:59:35 PM
This may have already been posted, and I don't think anyone here really had any doubt but just for the record...

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/07/binnenland/Handschriftdeskundigen_Joran_meent_niet_wat_hij_schrijft.xml

Google translation:

RTL News | March 7, 2013, 15:44
Handwriting Experts: Joran lying in letter

Reply / View comments (16)

Handwriting Experts who the letter of Joran van der Sloot have studied, pulling the sincerity of his apology in doubt. That report handwriting experts online magazine Vice.

RTL News published last Monday 's letter of Joran van der Sloot , which he regret. Experts who the letter at the request of vice.com have studied, naming various features of Joran.

Sheila Low, an experienced handwriting expert from California, called the letter "interesting". "If the sender 'I'm sorry' writes, the m and the s in the I'm" sorry "to the left bent than other letters, which indicates an inner conflict. Deep inside he thinks probably not what he writes. Indeed, the slope of his letters varies regularly suggesting many conflicting feelings. Factor in the variations in font to it, and you have someone with a poorly developed ego. He does not know who he is or where he is at home hear. "

"Letter Writer is manipulative '

The British graphologist Margaret White mentions another characteristic of the writer. "By his environment to manipulate and deceive the writer the others the impression that he is on the social values ​​and norms holds. But the writer does everything for his own needs to satisfy and will never accept that his confidence by others is undermined. "

The experts for the analysis concentrated on his way of writing, and not to what he writes.

The letter was Joran's name and the references to the murder of Flores removed, so that the experts did not know that it comes from Van der Sloot.

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/04/binnenland/brief-Joran-van-der-Sloot.JPG

(http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/04/binnenland/brief-Joran-van-der-Sloot.JPG)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: SuzieQ on April 02, 2013, 10:39:06 PM
http://www.nodeju.com/7163/joran-van-der-sloot-case-goes-to-supreme-court.html


Joran van der Sloot Case Goes To Supreme Court
 
NDJ World | Published: Apr 01 2013    ↓Jump To Discussion 
South America→World News

LIMA – The Joran van der Sloot case in Lima, Peru will be heard by the country’s Supreme Court in June this year.

Although it is not customary for the convict to be present during those proceedings, van der Sloot has requested he is allowed to attend, according to his attorney Máximo Altez.
 
The Dutchman says he should be tried for manslaughter and not for 1st degree murder because he didn’t kill Stephany Flores premeditated.
 
“It was a reaction coming from many build up frustrations and the sadness from the death of my father in 2010,” van der Sloot explains.
 
Joran van der Sloot is looking to receive a major reduction from his 28 years sentence. He believes he may receive less than 15 years, which is justified because he confessed to the crime and he showed mercy to the court.
 ::snipping2::
In a recent news flash, Joran van der Sloot said he is getting married to his girlfriend ‘Leidy’.

The warden of the Piedras Gordas prison, where van der Sloot resides, reportedly gave permission for the Dutchman to get married. Van der Sloot is waiting for proper paperwork to be completed.
 
In August 2012, his mother came to visit him in prison. His biggest fan, Mary Hamer from Florida, still pays all his legal fees.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 02, 2013, 10:39:11 PM
http://valentijnvandersloot.com/ Edit to fix link.  MB
Valentijn van der Sloot

https://plus.google.com/109847627521248084045/posts


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https://plus.google.com/116667903278729334501/posts



http://nchchonors.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Vandersloot-Valentijn-SIRP-Final-Paper.pdf
Valentijn van der Sloot
HS103B paper

https://soundcloud.com/valentijn-van-der-sloot/followers
Valentijn

http://about.me/ValentijnvanderSloot
Valentijn

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.211535205523340.57111.146284632048398&type=3



http://klout.com/ValentijnHere


That looks like Sea-Bass aka Sebastian.  

Yes it is. The other links are Valentijn and he has photos on those sites he has set up.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 03, 2013, 12:13:00 AM

 ::MonkeyHeart::


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Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 03, 2013, 03:50:07 PM
 ::MonkeyRoll::

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2013/joran-paragnost-verscheen-in-mijn-cel/

Google translation

Today 8:53 hours
Joran: psychic 'appeared' in my cell

Joran van der Sloot in the Peruvian prison spiritual assistance received from self-proclaimed medium Robbert van den Broeke. This writes the Dutchman in a letter sent Wednesday by his lawyer was sent to our editors.

Van der Sloot said on March 22 that he was transferred from the maximum security section of the prison to a department where "ordinary" prisoners sit. He felt "frightened and alone,'' he writes. "The conditions there are heavy bad." When he was alone in his cell was "released" the psychic suddenly before him. "He touched me and I suddenly felt such a tremendous love and was very clear thinking."

By the appearance of Joran Van den Broeke felt himself 'changed and crammed with love. " The medium would have predicted that the Dutchman would be returned to the high security department and that's what happened, declares Joran.

The media wants him the situation in his prison denounces, he writes. "The reason I write this letter is that I am not the only Dutchman who must live under such poor conditions. There are in prison where I sit 3 other Dutch people who every day risk. "Joran wants the embassy intervenes and complains about the fact that he hardly could have contact with his family.

Robbert van den Broeke in 2005 became discredited. Irene Moors made that year the program is much more which Van den Broeke his psychic abilities demonstrated. He turned his information not on paranormal way to obtain, but from the Internet to collect.

According Joran lawyer Máximo Altez wants his client through this letter to show how his life in prison looks like. His ability to communicate with the outside world are limited, so he does so through a letter, explains Altez. "He asked me to bring this out, so I'll do that."  ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Buckeye on April 03, 2013, 05:22:49 PM
::MonkeyRoll::

http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2013/joran-paragnost-verscheen-in-mijn-cel/

Google translation

Today 8:53 hours
Joran: psychic 'appeared' in my cell

Joran van der Sloot in the Peruvian prison spiritual assistance received from self-proclaimed medium Robbert van den Broeke. This writes the Dutchman in a letter sent Wednesday by his lawyer was sent to our editors.

Van der Sloot said on March 22 that he was transferred from the maximum security section of the prison to a department where "ordinary" prisoners sit. He felt "frightened and alone,'' he writes. "The conditions there are heavy bad." When he was alone in his cell was "released" the psychic suddenly before him. "He touched me and I suddenly felt such a tremendous love and was very clear thinking."

By the appearance of Joran Van den Broeke felt himself 'changed and crammed with love. " The medium would have predicted that the Dutchman would be returned to the high security department and that's what happened, declares Joran.

The media wants him the situation in his prison denounces, he writes. "The reason I write this letter is that I am not the only Dutchman who must live under such poor conditions. There are in prison where I sit 3 other Dutch people who every day risk. "Joran wants the embassy intervenes and complains about the fact that he hardly could have contact with his family.

Robbert van den Broeke in 2005 became discredited. Irene Moors made that year the program is much more which Van den Broeke his psychic abilities demonstrated. He turned his information not on paranormal way to obtain, but from the Internet to collect.

According Joran lawyer Máximo Altez wants his client through this letter to show how his life in prison looks like. His ability to communicate with the outside world are limited, so he does so through a letter, explains Altez. "He asked me to bring this out, so I'll do that."  ::snipping2::



Yes, yes....Joran has and will swing from both sides.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 04, 2013, 02:36:49 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

Justice for Stephany! 

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: yuknomenot on April 04, 2013, 04:51:10 PM
This may have already been posted, and I don't think anyone here really had any doubt but just for the record...

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/07/binnenland/Handschriftdeskundigen_Joran_meent_niet_wat_hij_schrijft.xml

Google translation:

RTL News | March 7, 2013, 15:44
Handwriting Experts: Joran lying in letter

Reply / View comments (16)

Handwriting Experts who the letter of Joran van der Sloot have studied, pulling the sincerity of his apology in doubt. That report handwriting experts online magazine Vice.

RTL News published last Monday 's letter of Joran van der Sloot , which he regret. Experts who the letter at the request of vice.com have studied, naming various features of Joran.

Sheila Low, an experienced handwriting expert from California, called the letter "interesting". "If the sender 'I'm sorry' writes, the m and the s in the I'm" sorry "to the left bent than other letters, which indicates an inner conflict. Deep inside he thinks probably not what he writes. Indeed, the slope of his letters varies regularly suggesting many conflicting feelings. Factor in the variations in font to it, and you have someone with a poorly developed ego. He does not know who he is or where he is at home hear. "

"Letter Writer is manipulative '

The British graphologist Margaret White mentions another characteristic of the writer. "By his environment to manipulate and deceive the writer the others the impression that he is on the social values ​​and norms holds. But the writer does everything for his own needs to satisfy and will never accept that his confidence by others is undermined. "

The experts for the analysis concentrated on his way of writing, and not to what he writes.

The letter was Joran's name and the references to the murder of Flores removed, so that the experts did not know that it comes from Van der Sloot.

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/04/binnenland/brief-Joran-van-der-Sloot.JPG

(http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/04/binnenland/brief-Joran-van-der-Sloot.JPG)

No analysis needs be done on anything about him, we all know the truth.  Besides, he isn't seriously attempting to convince anyone of anything.  If he was, he would use Dutch, Spanish, or Papiemento (sp?) instead of English.  This is still part of the game being played by the sick, evil, twisted spawn of the sick, evil, twisted "artist" who still resides on that sick, evil, twisted island.  There was a point in time where that would have seemed overly harsh.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on April 04, 2013, 09:46:06 PM
Sea Bass is one big fella.  I'd sure hate to be around when he blows his temp.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 05, 2013, 05:04:35 PM
Sea Bass is one big fella.  I'd sure hate to be around when he blows his temp.

or....passing gas!..........


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
Sea Bass is one big fella.  I'd sure hate to be around when he blows his temp.

or....passing gas!..........

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 05, 2013, 09:12:26 PM
 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyDevil::

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 05, 2013, 10:21:47 PM
 :fish: It's time for the Kalpoes to fish or cut bait. :nemo:
 :smt117 :smt117 :smt117 :smt117


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 05, 2013, 10:26:00 PM
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 05, 2013, 11:31:51 PM
Thank you, Klaas, and the person who pays for the documents!

It's a good news day!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 06, 2013, 02:46:59 AM
:fish: It's time for the Kalpoes to fish or cut bait. :nemo:
 :smt117 :smt117 :smt117 :smt117

 ::rhino::

Thanks Klaas!   ::HelloKitty::

And thanks to the anonymous monkey that purchases the documents for us too!   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 06, 2013, 02:53:36 AM
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Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on April 06, 2013, 01:49:20 PM
::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyDevil::

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Only in California do they put Happy Faces on legal documents!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 06, 2013, 02:02:43 PM
You do know I put it on there right?   ::MonkeyHaHa::  However, your statement is still true since I am in California, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 06, 2013, 08:24:21 PM
::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyDevil::

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Only in California do they put Happy Faces on legal documents!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Oh my gosh wreck that is too funny. I read it 5 min ago and I'm still laughing at your post.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 06, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
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D Day - May 14th Kalpoes



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 06, 2013, 11:55:51 PM
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D Day - May 14th Kalpoes



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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2013, 12:00:00 AM
::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyGavel::  ::MonkeyDevil::

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Only in California do they put Happy Faces on legal documents!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::CowboySmiley:: ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2013, 10:20:56 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20148066,00.html

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 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2013, 12:00:51 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/149026-gerecht-kan-zeker-vijftien-jaar-vooruit-in-gerenoveerd-pand

Google translation:

Court may at least fifteen years ahead in renovated building         
SATURDAY, APRIL 6, 2013 3:28 P.M.

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/thumbnails/images-stories-2013-04-06-2733663-350x233.jpg)
Memorial Office Director Yvonne Webb-Kock shows one of the large halls.

ORANGE CITY - The Court of First Instance may soon be "at least fifteen years ahead" in the monumental building at the John G. Emanstraat. The building has six rooms for the treatment of cases, including two large halls with public tribunes protected by glass. The tenders for security and the decor and furnishings of the building started yesterday.

It is expected that the courthouse in August completely finished and that the court can move back and the current location in Wayaca can leave. That says Yvonne Webb-Kock, director of the Memorial Centre and charged with the restoration of the historic building. A third public tender for refurbishing and decorating the square in front of the courthouse, will start soon.

Safety

The building was completed on 17 December last year by the contractor. Then began a period of service in which the contractor can fix imperfections and can finalize construction of the building. This period lasts until the end of this month. Before the court again in the house can draw should not only the building itself completely ready. The decor, furniture and especially security measures are in order. Think about security cameras and scanning systems. This tender is subject to Justice Minister Arthur Dowers (AVP) and is scheduled for May 14 The financing of these measures is through investment fund Fondo Desaroyo Aruba (FDA). On other points is thought to safety. Thus, the device help for the separation of public employees and suspects. There are several separate routes to the courtrooms. One of the large rooms in the new part is also specially designed for criminal cases. The location of this room is so chosen that the best safety can be guaranteed.

 ::snipping2::

Space for groups i

Memorial Office Director Webb says very satisfied with the result so far. She says that one of the requirements for the renovated building demand was room for growth. That became clear when the architect with employees of the court spoke in run-up to the draft. With a large hall and three small rooms in the old part and two big rooms "in the new section, the court may at least fifteen years ahead, says Webb. "There is room for more staff and more judges."

The preparations for the renovation began in 2006. The final renovation went after more than a year late in August 2010 started. This was due to problems with funding. Eventually, through Dutch authorities and FDA money to get around. Initially it was estimated that the renovation would take 1.5 years. With the project, without design, safety and the square is about 11 million florins involved. That the court would move back after the renovation of the monument, it was clear from the beginning. The court has namely a history of about 50 years in that place, decision Webb.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2013, 02:47:36 PM
Probably just me...But just another one of those things that makes me go hmmmm...JMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.amigoe.com/english/148901-summer-bliss-gold-robbery-case-will-come-up-in-court-in-june

Summer Bliss gold robbery case will come up in court in June         
THURSDAY, 4 APRIL 2013 13:54

WILLEMSTAD — The investigation in to the gold robbery from fishing boat Summer Bliss was still in progress in November 2012. Judge Maria Paulides adjourned the case yesterday afternoon and requested the Public Prosecutor’s Office to do its utmost in having the dossier ready – as regards contents – before June 28th. The pro-forma case against the five suspects for money laundering and receiving of goods came up in court yesterday afternoon. The officer of Justice submitted the case but requested the judge for adjournment in anticipation of the current investigations. The officer chose not to elaborate on the investigations. She mentioned investigating correspondence between the suspects through Black Berry messenger and experts reports not being ready. The officer also indicated the case would take a full day in court but that this day of session wasn’t available before June.

All lawyers filed a request to release the suspects from custody considering it would take several months before the case came up in court – as regards contents. According to the lawyers, the personal interests of their clients preponderate those of the public interest, certainly considering the huge gaps in the investigation. The Public Prosecutor’s Office constantly speaks of an organized crime although it’s not clear if it regards a fake robbery or not, or that the gold bars confiscated actually came from the boat and if indeed once could speak of receiving.

With their requests the lawyers particularly mentioned the hearing of the captain of the fishing boat Summer Bliss. This captain told the police he’s been smuggling gold to the island for over ten years. It’s a thorn in the flesh of the lawyers that the captain was released while the other suspects are still in custody despite the lack of evidence. Furthermore, they are now to wait until June.

Lawyer Anthony Eustatius believes that the current investigations are not related to the charges against his client and reminds the court that custody is not meant as advance on possible imprisonment. However, the officer emphasized the Public Prosecutor’s Office needs more time to clarify all doubts of the lawyers on the investigation. She is convinced these investigations will reveal the modus operandi of the men – from preparing the robbery to channeling the gold via Fedex.

The judge needed several minutes to conclude there were no grounds to release the suspects for the time being.



http://news.yahoo.com/curacao-police-leads-11-5m-gold-heist-153524719.html

Curacao police have new leads in $11.5M gold heist
By By KAREN ATTIAH and BERT WILKINSON | Associated Press – Sat, Dec 1, 2012

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Associated Press/Karen Attiah - The "Summer Bliss" fishing boat sits docked at the Willemstad port in Curacao, Friday, Nov. 30, 2012. Masked men in jackets emblazoned with the word "police" boarded the "Summer Bliss" in an early morning assault on Friday and stole 70 gold bars worth an estimated $11.5 million, police spokesman Reggie Huggins said. He declined to say who owned the approximately 216 kilograms (476 pounds) of gold but he said it was a legal shipment that was being transshipped through Curacao and officials in the island had been advised in advance that it was coming as part of normal security protocols. (AP Photo/Karen Attiah) 

WILLEMSTAD, Curacao (AP) — Police in Curacao said Saturday that they have several leads following a brazen heist in which gunmen pretending to be police stole 70 gold bars worth an estimated $11.5 million from a fishing boat.

Authorities have the license plate number of one of three cars used in Friday's getaway, and they have been asking for the public's help in tracking the suspects, police spokesman Reggie Huggins told The Associated Press.

"There is information coming in," he said. "We are getting reactions from the public, but we still have to sort it out."

Police have said that at least six men were involved, but no one has been arrested in a case that surprised authorities in the Dutch Caribbean island.

 ::snipping2::

Police declined to say where the gold was being delivered, but one crew member, who identified himself to the AP as Raymond Emmanuel, said they were delivering the gold to an unidentified company in Curacao.

He said the crew left Guyana on Monday and arrived in Curacao early Friday. Shortly after the ship docked, masked gunmen wearing jackets with the word "police" assaulted the boat's captain and then stole the gold bars.

Huggins said that security guards allowed the suspects to enter a restricted area thinking they were customs officials.

Rechenel Martyn, spokesman for Curacao Customs, said the boat's captain shared with authorities the intended recipient of the gold bars, but he declined to release the name because the case is under investigation. He added that the ship's crew followed protocol and that there is no special procedure for shipments of high value.

Meanwhile, officials in Guyana said they are investigating whether the gold was mined in the South American country, which is near Curacao.

Environment Minister Robert Persaud told the AP that they have requested details about the gold bars, adding that such shipments are usually flown directly to the buyer and involve heavy security. The ship's crew members have said they weren't armed.

Both Persaud and Anan Balram, director of Guyana's Gold Board, said that if the gold was mined in Guyana, it would be a clear case of smuggling.


"We don't want to jump the gun and say that the gold is from Guyana," Persaud said. "That is what we first have to establish, as well as if the ship many any other stops anywhere else."

Officials said there is no record of the ship, named "Summer Bliss," leaving Guyana's Port Georgetown Harbor, adding that it could have left from a pier at any of the country's numerous rivers.

Guyana produces roughly 650,000 ounces of gold a year, and officials say that up to half that amount is smuggled out of the country to avoid paying taxes. Most of the gold is sold in neighboring Brazil, Venezuela and Suriname.
___
Associated Press writer Bert Wilkinson reported from Georgetown, Guyana.




http://www.curacaochronicle.com/main/guyana-requests-assistance-from-interpol-to-recuperate-gold-bars/

Published On: Fri, Jan 4th, 2013 Main News | By Edition

Guyana Requests Assistance From Interpol To Recuperate Gold Bars

WILLEMSTAD – Authorities of the Ministry of Mining in Guyana are not receiving any information nor cooperation from the local authorities on the gold heist case. The crew of the vessel Summer Bliss which docked in Curacao on November 30, 2012 were robbed at gunpoint during the night hours. The robbers stole 79 gold bars with a value of 11.5 million dollars.

Meanwhile local authorities have arrested 7 suspect of which one was later released. These suspects are currently being interrogated.

The Ministry of Mining in Guyanan is very interested in recuperating these gold bars after they have heard that the police have confiscated two of these bars at a local jewelry located in Otrabanda, Willemstad. They have also heard that other bars were confiscated in Miami. Authorities of the Ministries are interested in getting back this gold but are complaining that the Curacao police is only interesting in solving the case.

In this case the cardinal question is if the police solves this case, who will keep the gold. At this moment there is no clarity if the gold originated from Guyana or Suriname because in Suriname they also mine gold. As last resource, the authorities in Guyana have sought assistance from Interpol to get prove that the gold stolen in Curacao originates from Guyana. If this is the case then they expect that the Curacao authorities will return back the gold.

Guyana is interested in determining if the crew from the vessel have taken the gold from Guyana, the authorities also want to know who they are and where did they take the gold from. A police authority in Guyana declared to the newspaper Demerara that Interpol has sent a few documents to them and has requested additional information from the police in Guyana.

Up until now this case is practically “paralyzed” because Interpol cannot give assistance except for administrative support.

According to the official in Guyana; “The people out there (meaning the Curacao police) do not want to give out much information but we are trying to see how much we could get…”

 ::snipping2::


http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2012/12/02/heist-in-curacao-gold-boat-departed-from-suriname/

Heist in Curacao…Gold boat departed from Suriname
DECEMBER 2, 2012 | BY KNEWS | FILED UNDER NEWS
 
 
-  Vessel registration leads to empty lot in Guyana

As local authorities scramble to ascertain whether a multi-million-dollar shipment of gold stolen in a daring heist in Curacao on Friday came from Guyana, there are strong indications that the bulk of it is from Suriname.

According to government sources, the vessel, the Summer Bliss, is indeed registered in Guyana to one Deo Shivpaul. The local address on the registration is given as Canal # 2, but checks by local officials found that the location is an empty lot, adding even more mystery to the incident.

The Summer Bliss which was robbed of US$11.5M in gold on Friday in Curacao. (AP photo)
According to the sources, the vessel would normally be moored at the mouth of the Berbice River, between Guyana and Suriname.

Sources have said now that boat never did left from Guyana but from Suriname.

On Friday, gunmen disguised as police officers raided the fishing vessel which was moored at the port in Willemstad, Curacao, an Antillean island located off Venezuela.

In what appeared to be a well planned heist, the gunmen using three cars beat the Guyanese captain and held the three crewmen, also from Guyana, at bay with guns. They later escaped with 70 gold bars worth US$11.5M (G$2.3B) that had been on the boat.

The boat had left four days before from Guyana, one crewman reportedly told investigators in Curacao.

The Guyana government immediately denied knowledge of the gold, saying that it never gave permission for gold to be shipped by any boat.

The Guyana Gold and Diamond Miners Association (GGDMA) also denied that it members may have been involved.

Government yesterday convened an emergency meeting on the issue, warning a zero tolerance on smuggling.

Suriname angle

Kaieteur News was told that from all indications, the bulk of the gold belonged to traders in Suriname and to a Chinese mining outfit.

A few ounces also reportedly belonged to a Guyanese.

Because Suriname’s royalties and taxes are lower than Guyana, traders have been trekking to the neighbouring country, at great risk of seizures from authorities there and from even robbers.

 ::snipping2::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2013, 02:53:46 PM
Can't help but think of this one and many hinky stinky possibilities...JMO.

http://www.starnieuws.com/index.php/welcome/index/nieuwsitem/10195
 ::snipping2::
Quote
Gerold Dompig, the Planning Gold Sector and Coordinator for National Security

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http://www.starnieuws.com/index.php/welcome/index/nieuwsitem/14141

(http://www.starnieuws.com/index.php/beyond_files/get_image/7c63b1cde8e816da96c46bd5a4f728fb.jpg)

http://www.starnieuws.com/index.php/welcome/index/nieuwsitem/13437

 ::snipping2::

Dompig says that there is a link with the organization of the gold industry in Nickerie, since it is known that gold is smuggled. He stressed that with the boat the police can act preventively. The Planning Committee Goudsecor is pleased that a contribution can be made ​​in this way to help reduce crime.

(http://www.starnieuws.com/index.php/beyond_files/get_image/4fc2e95b0598697e2e8318b7738cc294.jpg)
Gerold Dompig the commission Planning Sector Gold sprinkles the police boat with beer.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2013, 03:17:52 PM
http://www.demerarawaves.com/index.php/201212055096/Latest/origin-of-gold-stolen-in-curacao-unravelling.html

Origin of gold stolen in Curacao unravelling   
Written by Denis Scott Chabrol      
Tuesday, 04 December 2012 23:18

 ::snipping2::

There is as much mystery surrounding the gold as the boat, MV Summer Bliss, from which the haul was made by six masked and hooded men around 4 AM last Friday. Demerara Waves Online News (www.demwaves.com) was told that there was no record that the general cargo ship reporrted its departure from Guyana to the Lighthouse.

Authorities say searches for Summer Bliss’ owner, Deosarran Shivpaul, of Canal, West Bank Demerara have come up empty handed. The owner, according to high level sources, was deported from the United States several years ago and has since been living in another country.

A close examination of the ‘Summer Bliss’ shows that it was once named Miss Nicole.

A United States government database shows Miss Nicole as a US-flagged vessel carrying an International Maritime Organisation (IMO) number D611082.

Also found in the database is another US-flagged vessel named Captain Glenn with an IMO number 611082.

Senior industry players believed as far back as one year ago that gold, cocaine, guns and prostitutes were now part of a South American criminal ring spanning from French Guiana to Colombia and elsewhere.

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Pinellas-County-FL/Deosarran-Shivpaul.3299887.html

Deosarran Shivpaul
The following Official Record of Deosarran Shivpaul is being redistributed by Mugshots.com and is protected by constitutional, publishing, and other legal rights. This Official Record was collected from a Law Enforcement agency on 8/06/2011. Address herein provided within Official Records, visualization provided by Google Maps.

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Mugshots.com ID: 3299887
Arrest Date: 1/11/2008
Charges:
Charge Number   Agency Report Number   Offense Description   Statute   Court Case Number   Bond Assessed   Bond Amount Due   OBTS
1   SO08284679   ICE HOLD COURTESY HOLD   999999-05   CRCAB66630CFANO

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Pinellas-County-FL/Deosarran-Shivpaul.3299887/details/

Deosarran Shivpaul
Mugshots.com ID: 3299887
Name: SHIVPAUL, DEOSARRAN
Birth date: 3/04/1958
Docket No: 1284679
Arrest Date: 1/11/2008
Race: WHITE
Gender: MALE
Height: 5′ 4″ (1.63 m)
Weight: 146 lb (66 kg)
Eye Color: BRO
Hair Color: BRO
Complexion: XXX
Birth Place: GY
Arrest Age: 49
Arresting Agency: PINELLAS COUNTY SHERIFF
Address: 1590 34TH ST SO
City: ST PETERSBURG
State: FL
Zip: 33771
Scars / Marks / Tattoos: N/A
Arrest Information:
Cell Location/Status   Commissary Account Balance   SPIN   Booking Type
RELEASED - 1/14/2008 9 00 AM RELEASED/US MARSHALL   $0.00   2469216   FEDERAL MARSHALL
Names / Aliases: N/A
Charges:
Charge Number   Agency Report Number   Offense Description   Statute   Court Case Number   Bond Assessed   Bond Amount Due   OBTS
1   SO08284679   ICE HOLD COURTESY HOLD   999999-05   CRCAB66630CFANO   


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 07, 2013, 03:34:05 PM
Looks like the same guy to me.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.marionfloridamugshots.com/arrest_card_inquiry.php?n=39790_Shivpaul-Deosarran_Marion_Mugshot_39049cd832294098b4fd38cb15f4488f

Shivpaul Deosarran
Listing 39790
Race: I
Height: 505
Weight: 100
Eyes: BRO
Hair: BLK
Date: 2003-10-24
Where:MARION COUNTY, FL

Contact Us REMOVE MUGSHOT & LISTING

(http://www.marionfloridamugshots.com/images/SHIVPAUL_DEOSARRAN_0300015682.jpg)

Charge Description
SEX ASSLT | BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 07, 2013, 07:18:30 PM
Whoa, great find Texasmom.
Looks like the same guy to me too.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 08, 2013, 12:42:31 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 11, 2013, 01:32:05 AM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

(The Amigoe article says the driver of the car was arrested, but I believe the driver of the truck was the one arrested and suspected of driving under the influence.)

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/149323-verkeersongeval-noord-eist-leven-moeder-en-ongeboren-kind

Google translation:

Traffic North demands life mother and unborn child         
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 10, 2013 3:32 P.M.

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Emergency services try one seriously injured pregnant woman from the vehicle to retrieve.

ORANGE CITY - A pregnant woman (31) and her unborn child late last night at the hospital deceased to the consequences of an accident earlier in the evening in the North.

The father, a baby of eight months and a girl sitting in the car, survived the accident. The driver of the car was arrested. The Public Prosecutor confirmed this morning that he was stuck and is suspected of driving under the influence of alcohol.

The accident occurred last night around ten pm at the height of Caribbean Palm Village, near the traffic of North. The driver of a passenger riding in a car in which a family of tourists from Canada Sat The impact of the collision was so great that the mother (pregnancy of seven months) by a chariot of fire materials from the car had to be cut and then resuscitated, because she gave no sign of life. Then the woman was rushed to the hospital for her life and that of the unborn baby to save. The woman, Jayna Dofaj, however, died shortly before midnight. The baby was removed, but died shortly after birth. The child was named Larren London Dofaj.


http://www.awe24.com/20130409/14159/Accidente_cu_resultado_fatal_pariba_di_Caribbean_Palm_Village_mama_na_estado_7

Papiamentu translation:

accidente cu result fateful east of caribbean palm village, mother pregnant 7 month owing to fayece

1 day happen come across, 9 of april 2013 22:36 seccion: incidente

tuesday night owing to enter informe of one accidente enough pisa east of caribbean palm village, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu here is deal of one accidente where one hyundai getz blauw v646 owing to leave fast one pick-up frontier blauw a3892 cu owing to end of leave for of his cas. the impacto was strong y 5 person among they one is one baby of 8 month owing to resulta injury. one lady tourist cu 7 month pregnant y cu was sit just at the near where the impacto was owing to resulta gravemente injury. mirando con the vehiculo owing to stay owing to rekeri presencia of the equipo of rescate of bombero. at arrival of bombero owing to cuminsa open the car for so succeed saca the victimanan y transporta they cu urgencia for hospital. at arrival of the lady pregnant at hospital for 11'or y 45 not owing to stay nothing another cu constata cu the lady here owing to fayece owing to consecuencia of the multiple fracturanan ricibi at his cabez, while the baby of 7 month in the barica of the mother also owing to fayece. the another victimanan incluyendo the another baby cu was behind owing to being atendi also cu urgencia at hospital. we owing to ricibi informe of cu the situation of the child muher sit behind just at near of the impacto is critico. the chofer of the frontier also owing to resulta levemente injury y owing to being deteni for bay happen test for look at if berdaderamente the was stuur bao influencia of alcohol. at famianan of the fayecidonan is bay we more sincero words of condolencia. update the victimanan is jayna dofaj canada 18 of feburary 1982 y his baby ta: larren london dofaj nasi aruba 10.4.2013 y lastimamente owing to fayece one rato after. they owing to come stay serca they brother cu live at aruba at north.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/62128-varios-herido-den-accidente-serio-na-noord

Papiamentu translation:

chauffeur sober deteni debi of is envolvi in accidente fateful at north

tuesday, 09 april 2013 22:46

tuesday night police, ambulance y bombero owing to mobilisa for accidente enough earnest at height of caribbean palm village pabou of the crusada of luz of trafico of north. here nissan frontier a- 3892 owing to strike at near right of hyundai getz v-646 cu family abordo. the impacto was much strong owing to let the getz total- los. abordo the car compacto had one madam pregnant sit near of passenger, criatura of barely some month cu one another pareha sit behind y man at stuur, all owing to stay injury. personal of ambulance owing to work at once on the madam pregnant stick in car cu not was reaciona. unidad of rescate of cuerpo of bombero owing to haci all they attempt for saca the madam at once for so ambulance can owing to transporte for hospital. he talk english at stuur of the getz at tino still, was much emocional for her desgracia sit near of all his pasaheronan injury without can haci nothing for yudanan. the another chauffeur masculino abordo the pickup owing to strike his cabes duro in impacto cu the getz. police owing to detene the chauffeur of the pickup already cu the was stuur under influencia. owing to close full the caminda pendiente investigacion already cu for of inicio was teme for life of the madam pregnant abordo the getz. testigonan is señala cu the chauffeur abordo the pickup owing to descend for of car y try bandona the sitio, but owing to come bek hour owing to listen sirena of police is arrive close. this also do not first trip cu the person here cu is work at inmigracion is envolvi in accidente cu alcohol envolvi. for 11:18 owing to enter informe cu the madam pregnant owing to fayece at hospital consecuencia of his heridanan. fiscal owing to confisca curpa pendiente investigacion. slachtofferhulp owing to bay atende cu the family cu was devasta for her news tragico. specialistanan medico is haciendo they maximo attempt for scapa life of the baby. come across


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 12, 2013, 01:24:57 AM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.629131617101905.158207.602131299801937&type=1

BamfStarz "Mardi Gras" Kick-Off Party !!
February 16 ·  · Taken at Señor Frogs Aruba
The Kickoff party of BAMF STARZ at Señor Frog's Aruba !!
Entertainment Line up for that night was:
- Mc Samil
- DJ KONKEL
- Nutzbeatz
- StereoTrip
Thank you for all who came out that night !!!
It was an AMAZING PARTY !!

Picture Credit goes to BamfStarz Photographer:
- Suhaila Alders

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FatBoy Slim at BANG! Beach Festival.
March 16 ·  · Taken at Eagle Beach, Aruba
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BAMF STARZ at Eagle Beach, Aruba.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=645827848765615&set=a.645822112099522.1073741825.602131299801937&type=3&theater
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 12, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
He just seems creepy to me.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 12, 2013, 07:11:35 PM
He just seems creepy to me.



You know he's creepy when he makes Steve "dumb as a box of rocks" Croes look good  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 12, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
Klassend

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::monkeywine2::

those girls are wayyyy too young to be around a murder's brother imo.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 12, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
WRECK - get a load of this!!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 12, 2013, 10:09:19 PM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/StatConf1_zpsa930d5c9.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/StatConf2_zps67a6bdae.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/StatConf3_zpsb936cdb4.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 12, 2013, 10:10:56 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 12, 2013, 10:16:24 PM
 ::rhino:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 12, 2013, 10:18:09 PM
 ::MonkeySlide::   ::bee::   ::MonkeySlide::   ::MonkeySlide::   ::bee::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 12, 2013, 10:19:30 PM
Klassend

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::monkeywine2::

those girls are wayyyy too young to be around a murder's brother imo.



The girls in the 2nd photo have taken their photo with everyone.  My guess is you pay them to take your photo with them so you look like you have cute girlfriends  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 12, 2013, 10:20:17 PM
Wish I wasn't working now.  Why couldn't this have happened a few years ago when I was working from home  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 12, 2013, 10:23:47 PM
::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2NJ::TICK FREAKIN' TOCK!  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::monkeywine2::  ::justice2NJ::  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 12, 2013, 10:27:07 PM
I'll keep my eye out for "throw in the towel" documents, LOLOL  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::justice2NJ::  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 12, 2013, 10:31:08 PM
I'll keep my eye out for "throw in the towel" documents, LOLOL  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::justice2NJ::  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 12, 2013, 10:33:55 PM
I'll keep my eye out for "throw in the towel" documents, LOLOL  ::MonkeyDevil::  ::justice2NJ::  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyGavel::   ::MonkeyJnBox::   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 13, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

 ::justice2NJ::





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 13, 2013, 03:15:53 PM
 ::justice2NJ::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/zoom3_zps7557ca4f.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/klaasend/media/zoom3_zps7557ca4f.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on April 13, 2013, 05:19:38 PM
::justice2NJ::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/zoom3_zps7557ca4f.jpg) (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/klaasend/media/zoom3_zps7557ca4f.jpg.html)

 ::justice2NJ:: ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on April 13, 2013, 05:23:51 PM


    ::justice2NJ:: ::MonkeyHeart::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 13, 2013, 08:46:11 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

(The Amigoe article says the driver of the car was arrested, but I believe the driver of the truck was the one arrested and suspected of driving under the influence.)

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/149323-verkeersongeval-noord-eist-leven-moeder-en-ongeboren-kind

Google translation:

Traffic North demands life mother and unborn child         
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 10, 2013 3:32 P.M.

(http://www.amigoe.com/images/stories/thumbnails/images-stories-2013-04-10-2769798-350x233.jpg)
Emergency services try one seriously injured pregnant woman from the vehicle to retrieve.

ORANGE CITY - A pregnant woman (31) and her unborn child late last night at the hospital deceased to the consequences of an accident earlier in the evening in the North.

The father, a baby of eight months and a girl sitting in the car, survived the accident. The driver of the car was arrested. The Public Prosecutor confirmed this morning that he was stuck and is suspected of driving under the influence of alcohol.

The accident occurred last night around ten pm at the height of Caribbean Palm Village, near the traffic of North. The driver of a passenger riding in a car in which a family of tourists from Canada Sat The impact of the collision was so great that the mother (pregnancy of seven months) by a chariot of fire materials from the car had to be cut and then resuscitated, because she gave no sign of life. Then the woman was rushed to the hospital for her life and that of the unborn baby to save. The woman, Jayna Dofaj, however, died shortly before midnight. The baby was removed, but died shortly after birth. The child was named Larren London Dofaj.


http://www.awe24.com/20130409/14159/Accidente_cu_resultado_fatal_pariba_di_Caribbean_Palm_Village_mama_na_estado_7

Papiamentu translation:

accidente cu result fateful east of caribbean palm village, mother pregnant 7 month owing to fayece

1 day happen come across, 9 of april 2013 22:36 seccion: incidente

tuesday night owing to enter informe of one accidente enough pisa east of caribbean palm village, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu here is deal of one accidente where one hyundai getz blauw v646 owing to leave fast one pick-up frontier blauw a3892 cu owing to end of leave for of his cas. the impacto was strong y 5 person among they one is one baby of 8 month owing to resulta injury. one lady tourist cu 7 month pregnant y cu was sit just at the near where the impacto was owing to resulta gravemente injury. mirando con the vehiculo owing to stay owing to rekeri presencia of the equipo of rescate of bombero. at arrival of bombero owing to cuminsa open the car for so succeed saca the victimanan y transporta they cu urgencia for hospital. at arrival of the lady pregnant at hospital for 11'or y 45 not owing to stay nothing another cu constata cu the lady here owing to fayece owing to consecuencia of the multiple fracturanan ricibi at his cabez, while the baby of 7 month in the barica of the mother also owing to fayece. the another victimanan incluyendo the another baby cu was behind owing to being atendi also cu urgencia at hospital. we owing to ricibi informe of cu the situation of the child muher sit behind just at near of the impacto is critico. the chofer of the frontier also owing to resulta levemente injury y owing to being deteni for bay happen test for look at if berdaderamente the was stuur bao influencia of alcohol. at famianan of the fayecidonan is bay we more sincero words of condolencia. update the victimanan is jayna dofaj canada 18 of feburary 1982 y his baby ta: larren london dofaj nasi aruba 10.4.2013 y lastimamente owing to fayece one rato after. they owing to come stay serca they brother cu live at aruba at north.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/62128-varios-herido-den-accidente-serio-na-noord

Papiamentu translation:

chauffeur sober deteni debi of is envolvi in accidente fateful at north

tuesday, 09 april 2013 22:46

tuesday night police, ambulance y bombero owing to mobilisa for accidente enough earnest at height of caribbean palm village pabou of the crusada of luz of trafico of north. here nissan frontier a- 3892 owing to strike at near right of hyundai getz v-646 cu family abordo. the impacto was much strong owing to let the getz total- los. abordo the car compacto had one madam pregnant sit near of passenger, criatura of barely some month cu one another pareha sit behind y man at stuur, all owing to stay injury. personal of ambulance owing to work at once on the madam pregnant stick in car cu not was reaciona. unidad of rescate of cuerpo of bombero owing to haci all they attempt for saca the madam at once for so ambulance can owing to transporte for hospital. he talk english at stuur of the getz at tino still, was much emocional for her desgracia sit near of all his pasaheronan injury without can haci nothing for yudanan. the another chauffeur masculino abordo the pickup owing to strike his cabes duro in impacto cu the getz. police owing to detene the chauffeur of the pickup already cu the was stuur under influencia. owing to close full the caminda pendiente investigacion already cu for of inicio was teme for life of the madam pregnant abordo the getz. testigonan is señala cu the chauffeur abordo the pickup owing to descend for of car y try bandona the sitio, but owing to come bek hour owing to listen sirena of police is arrive close. this also do not first trip cu the person here cu is work at inmigracion is envolvi in accidente cu alcohol envolvi. for 11:18 owing to enter informe cu the madam pregnant owing to fayece at hospital consecuencia of his heridanan. fiscal owing to confisca curpa pendiente investigacion. slachtofferhulp owing to bay atende cu the family cu was devasta for her news tragico. specialistanan medico is haciendo they maximo attempt for scapa life of the baby. come across

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/62278-fiscal-ta-laga-chauffeur-jc-arends-di-accidenete-fatal-den-libertad

Papiamentu translation:

fiscal is let chauffeur j.c. arends sospechoso of accidente fateful in freedom

(http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithumb_images/1...images.stories.news.2013.April.12.jeancarlo.JPG)

friday, 12 april 2013 14:16

fiscal of husticia did take decision diabierna for place the sospechso j.c. arends in the investigacion of the accidente cu owing to cobra two life the week here at north in freedom. the motibo cu fiscal owing to place in freedom is cu not have more base for as in detencion. the investigacion is continua in the caso here.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on April 14, 2013, 12:34:05 PM
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on April 14, 2013, 12:35:47 PM
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:smt038 :smt038 :smt038


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 14, 2013, 03:18:56 PM
LUCKY LEPRECHAUN GIVEAWAY STARTS MAY 14TH - IN USA!

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on April 16, 2013, 12:27:21 AM
Well.......... it looks like this travesty is about over! I guess I'm kind of disappointed that after so many years, we will not get the dweebs on the stand to testify. Bittersweet!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 16, 2013, 08:50:09 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/149823-politie-niet-blij-met-beslissing-om

Google translation:

Police not happy with decision OM         

TUESDAY, APRIL 16, 2013 3:58 P.M.

ORANGE CITY - Ricardo Muller, head of the traffic department of the police, is not happy with the decision of the Public Prosecutor (OM) to the drunk driver who is suspected of the fatal accident last Tuesday, at liberty to leave. But he respects their decision and said that the police will strictly check for alcohol in traffic.

According to Muller work the police and the years together to the use of alcohol in traffic reduction. Whether a driver concerned now blame or not, when someone with drunk driving is involved in an accident, this person is trying to tighten until the case comes to court. The reason here now departed from, is not known. The OM will be here this week to know more about, as has been announced.

Muller says that the police are disappointed, but still do their best to get drunk drivers off the road. The message should remain that drunk driving is a crime, especially when someone loses his life in consequence. Last weekend was also a lot of traffic controls, says Muller. Here are eight persons arrested under the influence lived. One blew even five times the legal limit. Another driver, who also too much had parked his vehicle against two lampposts. He too was arrested and his vehicle was seized. Muller wants people realize that they are not themselves when they are with alcohol on driving. "You do not see well, your treasure distances wrong and your responsiveness decreases, so you can brake in time," he concludes.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 16, 2013, 10:07:48 PM
http://www.cornwallseawaynews.com/News/2013-03-28/article-3209247/Mother-of-lost-teen-to-speak-at-CTC-event/1 (http://www.cornwallseawaynews.com/News/2013-03-28/article-3209247/Mother-of-lost-teen-to-speak-at-CTC-event/1)

Mother of lost teen to speak at CTC event
March 28, 2013-04-16

 ::snipping2::

On May 1 Beth Holloway will recount the tragedy of the loss at the Cornwall Civic Complex during the Children’s Treatment Centre Bike-A-Thon Plus Kick-Off Breakfast.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.courant.com/community/new-britain/hcrs-73607hc-new-britain-20130412,0,7160556.story (http://www.courant.com/community/new-britain/hcrs-73607hc-new-britain-20130412,0,7160556.story)

Beth Holloway To Speak At 'ENOUGH! Race To End Violence'
April 15, 2013
 ::snipping2::

Beth Holloway, known for her heroic efforts to find her missing daughter Natalee in Aruba in 2005, will be the special guest speaker at YWCA New Britain and Central Connecticut State University's Second Annual ENOUGH! Race to End Violence at CCSU on April 21.
 ::snipping2::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 17, 2013, 06:42:57 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Beth_Sept2010_NyPost.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on April 17, 2013, 01:26:01 PM
LUCKY LEPRECHAUN GIVEAWAY STARTS MAY 14TH - IN USA!

(http://www.cbstvd.com/Images/Shows/DRP_SHOWS_320x285_1.jpg)


Kermit, Klaas, and Monkeys, It's starting to look like the 2Leprechauns aren't magically delicious...

GOD BLESS AMERICA

 ::americaflag::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 17, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
LUCKY LEPRECHAUN GIVEAWAY STARTS MAY 14TH - IN USA!

(http://www.cbstvd.com/Images/Shows/DRP_SHOWS_320x285_1.jpg)


Kermit, Klaas, and Monkeys, It's starting to look like the 2Leprechauns aren't magically delicious...

GOD BLESS AMERICA

 ::americaflag::


 ::MonkeyFootball:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blonde on April 17, 2013, 03:16:52 PM
http://www.cornwallseawaynews.com/News/2013-03-28/article-3209247/Mother-of-lost-teen-to-speak-at-CTC-event/1 (http://www.cornwallseawaynews.com/News/2013-03-28/article-3209247/Mother-of-lost-teen-to-speak-at-CTC-event/1)

Mother of lost teen to speak at CTC event
March 28, 2013-04-16

 ::snipping2::

On May 1 Beth Holloway will recount the tragedy of the loss at the Cornwall Civic Complex during the Children’s Treatment Centre Bike-A-Thon Plus Kick-Off Breakfast.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.courant.com/community/new-britain/hcrs-73607hc-new-britain-20130412,0,7160556.story (http://www.courant.com/community/new-britain/hcrs-73607hc-new-britain-20130412,0,7160556.story)

Beth Holloway To Speak At 'ENOUGH! Race To End Violence'
April 15, 2013
 ::snipping2::

Beth Holloway, known for her heroic efforts to find her missing daughter Natalee in Aruba in 2005, will be the special guest speaker at YWCA New Britain and Central Connecticut State University's Second Annual ENOUGH! Race to End Violence at CCSU on April 21.
 ::snipping2::





This is on a Sunday
Beth normally  emails me when she is going to be in CT


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 17, 2013, 11:47:59 PM
Another hanging, he was 44 years old.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

In brief
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 17, 2013 15:38
End of life The police yesterday found a man in North (44) lifeless under a tree. A doctor called official noted that the man is deceased at the consequences of suspension (hanging).


WARNING:  GRAPHIC IMAGES AT THE LINK

http://www.awe24.com/20130416/14213/Un_hende_lo_a_horca_su_curpa_pabao_di_e_casnan_di_pueblo_na_Noord_e_victima_ta

Papiamentu translation:

a will owing to horca his curpa pabao of the casnan of people at north the victima is f.j.h. of 44 year

1 day happen come across, 16 of april 2013 07:48

seccion: incidente

tuesday morning owing to enter informe of cu a will owing to horca curpq in frankenstraat, at once owing to dirigi one patrol at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come constata cu this is the caso y owing to ask presencia of all autoridad competente. police owing to close all the area in vecindario for so haci one mihor investigacion. at arrival of all another instancia fiscal owing to indica for haci one investigacion forensico on the caso here y for atende cuidadosamente. the curpa owing to being reconosi because; francisco "fenchi" johannes henriquez naci at aruba 16 of june 1968 y cu was live at semeleerstraat 19. the person here cu will was have more of 1 day perdi cu not was know of his paradero. some minuut after of 9'or dr. lin owing to come constata dead of the victima. of part cuerpo policial y also of we of awe24.com is send words of deep condolencia at famianan of the fayecido.

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 18, 2013, 01:01:17 AM
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Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on April 18, 2013, 01:35:56 AM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.629131617101905.158207.602131299801937&type=1

BamfStarz "Mardi Gras" Kick-Off Party !!
February 16 ·  · Taken at Señor Frogs Aruba
The Kickoff party of BAMF STARZ at Señor Frog's Aruba !!
Entertainment Line up for that night was:
- Mc Samil
- DJ KONKEL
- Nutzbeatz
- StereoTrip
Thank you for all who came out that night !!!
It was an AMAZING PARTY !!

Picture Credit goes to BamfStarz Photographer:
- Suhaila Alders

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/71740_629132440435156_1935847922_n.jpg)



FatBoy Slim at BANG! Beach Festival.
March 16 ·  · Taken at Eagle Beach, Aruba
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BAMF STARZ at Eagle Beach, Aruba.
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Oh my gosh, look at that nasty wart on his hand!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: San on April 18, 2013, 08:30:55 PM
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.629131617101905.158207.602131299801937&type=1

BamfStarz "Mardi Gras" Kick-Off Party !!
February 16 ·  · Taken at Señor Frogs Aruba
The Kickoff party of BAMF STARZ at Señor Frog's Aruba !!
Entertainment Line up for that night was:
- Mc Samil
- DJ KONKEL
- Nutzbeatz
- StereoTrip
Thank you for all who came out that night !!!
It was an AMAZING PARTY !!

Picture Credit goes to BamfStarz Photographer:
- Suhaila Alders

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/71740_629132440435156_1935847922_n.jpg)



FatBoy Slim at BANG! Beach Festival.
March 16 ·  · Taken at Eagle Beach, Aruba
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=645822718766128&set=a.645822112099522.1073741825.602131299801937&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-frc1%2F45494_645822718766128_608158886_n.jpg&size=800%2C533
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BAMF STARZ at Eagle Beach, Aruba.
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Oh my gosh, look at that nasty wart on his hand!

Hi Anna, how about that nasty wart between his shoulders  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 18, 2013, 08:36:19 PM
SAN!!!!!

You've been on my mind. Glad to see you are around.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: San on April 18, 2013, 09:02:58 PM
SAN!!!!!

You've been on my mind. Glad to see you are around.



Hi Kermit, hope all is well with you.  I don't post as much but I do check the NH thread.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 18, 2013, 09:55:06 PM
San!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::HelloKitty:: ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: San on April 18, 2013, 10:41:46 PM
Hi TM, sometimes I can't help myself  :smt066


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 18, 2013, 10:58:38 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/150020-voorwaardelijke-straffen-voor-miljoenenfraude-merryweather

Google translation:

Suspended sentences for fraud million Merryweather         

THURSDAY, APRIL 18, 2013 16:38

ORANGE CITY - Francine and Herbert Merryweather - owners include restaurant Drifwood - this morning convicted of money laundering and tax fraud. He received one year probation and fined 50,000 florins. For her part in the fraud, she was sentenced to 10 months probation and fined 25,000 florins. Both were also imposed more than 220 hours of community service. The Public Prosecutor (OM) is appealing.

By our reporter

Alex Lacle

According to Justice, they have evaded for about 6 million florins in taxes. Moreover Herbert was charged with illegal possession of firearms. "We appeal", said OM spokesperson Ann Angela Amigoe to know. "We do not agree with the punishment it. We find that in such a large fraud cases unconditional prison sentences are in place. "The prosecution had demanded at Herbert 12 months in prison, of which 9 months unconditional and a fine of 250,000 florins. Francine heard 10 months imprisonment against her requirements, including 5 months unconditional and a financial penalty of 175,000 florins. Both have otherwise been in custody for 26 days.

All expected

Chris Lejuez, lawyer Merryweathers, left reacts to the news that the prosecution is appealing. He had been expecting 'view of their requirement. "But it is the judge who decides on the basis of all the circumstances of the case," he adds. Rather let Lejuez already know the requirement of the OM too high to find. His clients have indeed admitted to have evaded tax, but have now also been a payments agreement with the Tax Refund. This would be a total of almost 4 million florins.

Great research

The fraud came late but 2011 to light when the financial fiscal intelligence and investigation team (FIOT), in collaboration with include the Criminal Investigation Team and the Colombian police raids conducted in homes and businesses of the family Merryweather on Aruba and Colombia. Philip Herbert and son were arrested for illegal possession of firearms. After having spent a few days the judge father and son left free. In June Herbert was arrested again and this time was also Francine apprehended in connection with the investigation of tax evasion. A month later the custody of them lifted by the court. The prosecution went here unsuccessfully appealed.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 18, 2013, 11:05:42 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/150003-chauffeur-slachtofferauto-dodelijk-ongeluk-mogelijk-vervolgd

Google translation:

Chauffeur car fatal accident victim may persecuted         

THURSDAY, APRIL 18, 2013 16:16

ORANGE CITY - The accident on Tuesday, April 9, with Jayna Dosay (31) and her unborn child were killed, is very likely caused by the driver of the car in which the victims were. This appears from preliminary investigation by the judiciary. Remains to be seen whether the driver concerned was to blame and whether he can be. Above prosecuted

By our reporter

Alex Lacle

The Public Prosecutor (OM) thinks it probably had not made when JCA (35), driver of the pickup, had not been drunk. From On camera images of the Caribbean Palm Village Hotel is in fact seen the accident. Well Three cars drove from the traffic lights towards Tierra del Sol, says Chief Peter Blanken. The first car hit left the parking lot of the hotel. The second car drove straight and the third car, containing the victims, had his blinker on and hit also left. The oncoming pickup drove full in the turning car. On security footage shows that the brake lights of the pickup turned before he collides with the car clearly. "The car (the victims, ed) goes so quickly left, that's just a traffic violation," says Whites. The question remains, how it would have had if the driver of the pickup drunk so much. Past The chief says further that the pickup is not speeding.

Miscommunicatie

Last Friday was the drunk driver of the pickup, at the request of the prosecutor, at large. There were no more grounds to hold him longer declared the OM in a press release. The release caused uproar and public debate. The police were not happy with the release and Justice Minister Arthur Dowers was informed about the case.

"The information in the press release is true," said the Chief. Only the message was not complete. "We have not done well. We should explain, "says Whites better. "The citizen can not get the idea that there is a difference between the police and the judiciary." He insists on the absolute lightly conceives OM drunk driving.

We are bound to t

The Chief explains: "When a driver under the influence and becomes involved in an accident, especially when there are injuries or deaths are regrettable, this person arrested 'in principle'. If it can be also taken the car seized. "Then research show to what extent the drunk driver at fault in the accident and whether this person can remain so. Remand "We are not about the detention. We are in it according to the law, "emphasizes Whites. "If the law forbids us to ask for custody then we simply do not do. If the law allows it, then there is a judge who must decide whether someone in position. In this case, the preliminary investigation indicates that the suspect driver the accident, even without alcohol, had not expected to occur. That does not mean that the defendant driver is not prosecuted, "emphasizes Whites.

Or persecutions g

"He is in any case prosecuted for drunken driving. In addition, it could be ", yet also the accident put him in charge says Whites. Further research should reveal namely to what extent the fatal accident can be. Charged him The study will include spoken with both drivers, the camera images are analyzed and vehicle data read from the pickup.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 18, 2013, 11:12:39 PM
Hi TM, sometimes I can't help myself  :smt066

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 18, 2013, 11:13:53 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 19, 2013, 12:39:28 PM
SAN!!!!!

You've been on my mind. Glad to see you are around.



Hi Kermit, hope all is well with you.  I don't post as much but I do check the NH thread.

Well, I miss you. I am recovering from eye surgery hoping for a miracle to see again.
You have always been such an important supporter of Natalee and I know her
mom knows all that you continue to do for her & so appreciates it more then you
probably ever knew.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 20, 2013, 09:33:39 PM
http://www.crimesite.nl/cold-cases/natalee-holloway/26174-gevangenisstraf-geeist-tegen-patrick-vd-eem.html

Google translation

Prison sentence for Patrick v.d. Eem
Saturday, April 20, 2013 14:53

Five years ago he was the hero of America and Netherlands. Patrick van der Eem, the undercover that Joran van der Sloot tried to elicit a confession in Holloway case. Yesterday he was in court, suspected of snelkraak in Oosterbeek. Destitute and down-but still with the same bravado. A report from the court.

Middle of the night of 31st December 2012, beating three men wearing balaclavas shattered the glass front of a luxury sports shop in Oosterbeek. Within minutes, 30.000 euros captured on expensive designer clothes. The alarm goes off and police patrols in the area to look for the perpetrators. Five minutes later sees a cop and drive a Toyota recognizes Patrick van der Eem as the driver. He gives chase and Toyota is driven terminal using a second surveillance.

DNA
 "Why do I get arrested, I've got nothing on me? 'Says Van der Eem. That's right. The car is found that the ram raid has to do, not sledgehammers, balaclavas or loot. Patrick sits next to his cousin, Jason. And in the car a friend of the family. But later that night found a second car, a VW van that appears to be filled with the loot. And balaclavas, gloves and scarves. Sent to the NFI and there are clear traces of DNA found on Patrick & Jason van der Eem and the friend who is in the Toyota with them.

Images
If the police surveillance of the store requests, Van der Eem show three days earlier in the sporting goods store to have been and to have expensive jackets there. Asked According to the prosecutor it was a reconnaissance. He considers theft with breaking proven and requires one year imprisonment.
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No help
Patrick van der Eem was five years ago, world famous as the man who Nathalee Holloway disappearance of trying to solve. He earned tons of the broadcast, wrote a book and was with Peter R. de Vries an Emmy-award to go get in Hollywood. Only found out on arrival in America, the country that Patrick was not allowed because he had antecedents for drug trafficking. The 'petty criminal' turned out to be. Slightly bigger fish Also during the meeting yesterday, it was stated that Van der Eem has a long criminal record of violence and property crimes. Van der Eem constantly interrupted the judge, but also made witticisms and showed the bravado that we know of his conversations with Joran. He lives-in their own words-only benefits, refuses help from the probation service and the psychiatrist he walked away. "I'm fine," said Patrick.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on April 21, 2013, 08:27:37 PM


We are not giving up on you , Natalee!  We will hold your candle up high and keep it burning until we light your way home with it's brightness.  We will take your candle and light candle after candle with it until no corner is left in darkness.  You are always on our minds.  Beth, you are my hero.  To have risen up above it all and come out better and stronger is beyond what anyone could have expected of the Mom of such a wonderful and loving daughter.  A young and precious woman who has not returned to her loving arms after so long, a daughter who would have done so much to help the world become a better place, one kind act at a time.  We miss you, Natalee and we will be here waiting and watching until the day you come home and then we will not rest until every stone is overturned and every worm has been exposed.

Rest in peace, Stephany, you have not died in vein.  No one deserves what you received at the hands of a man who should never have been anywhere near a woman.  You were brutalized at the hands of a criminal who was allowed to go free by unsavory means.  You will not be forgotten.  The light will shine so brightly on those worms they will never be able to find the holes they crawled out of when they are exposed.  Please help lead us to our baby girl, Natalee.  We love you and we are so very sorry your killer was not taken out of society before you were so savagely taken from this earth.  We will not leave you alone, justice failed you, anyone who could so brutally attack another human being should never have been allowed to freely wander this earth.  Justice was robbed.  She will keep watch now, she was not blind and deaf to your cries.  She will wipe your tears and keep this earth safe from anyone who would take the life of one so precious.  Make no mistake, all lives are precious, but you were there when justice had her hands tied, justice will not be denied her day.  Please, Stephany join with her, help her now and remove the ties that once bound her.  Help each other to keep the world free from those who hurt Natalee, and the worms who assisted them by helping them go free.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 21, 2013, 10:43:21 PM


We are not giving up on you , Natalee!  We will hold your candle up high and keep it burning until we light your way home with it's brightness.  We will take your candle and light candle after candle with it until no corner is left in darkness.  You are always on our minds.  Beth, you are my hero.  To have risen up above it all and come out better and stronger is beyond what anyone could have expected of the Mom of such a wonderful and loving daughter.  A young and precious woman who has not returned to her loving arms after so long, a daughter who would have done so much to help the world become a better place, one kind act at a time.  We miss you, Natalee and we will be here waiting and watching until the day you come home and then we will not rest until every stone is overturned and every worm has been exposed.

Rest in peace, Stephany, you have not died in vein.  No one deserves what you received at the hands of a man who should never have been anywhere near a woman.  You were brutalized at the hands of a criminal who was allowed to go free by unsavory means.  You will not be forgotten.  The light will shine so brightly on those worms they will never be able to find the holes they crawled out of when they are exposed.  Please help lead us to our baby girl, Natalee.  We love you and we are so very sorry your killer was not taken out of society before you were so savagely taken from this earth.  We will not leave you alone, justice failed you, anyone who could so brutally attack another human being should never have been allowed to freely wander this earth.  Justice was robbed.  She will keep watch now, she was not blind and deaf to your cries.  She will wipe your tears and keep this earth safe from anyone who would take the life of one so precious.  Make no mistake, all lives are precious, but you were there when justice had her hands tied, justice will not be denied her day.  Please, Stephany join with her, help her now and remove the ties that once bound her.  Help each other to keep the world free from those who hurt Natalee, and the worms who assisted them by helping them go free.



::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 22, 2013, 09:08:28 AM

http://newbritainherald.com/articles/2013/04/21/news/doc517493736c2ad918549972.txt

Enough! Race Against Violence draws almost 400 runners in New Britain
Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:51 PM EDT

Sunday morning’s Enough! A Race Against Violence drew nearly 400 participants after the event’s sponsor — the Hartford Marathon Foundation — invited those who ran in the Boston Marathon last week to run for free.
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It’s been eight years since Beth Holloway’s daughter Natalee went missing while vacationing in Aruba. Her remains have never been found. But as time passes, it doesn’t get any easier for the heartbroken mother, who also spoke to runners Sunday.

“Please know, I am running with you and the work you do to end violence,” she said, addressing runners and sharing her daughter’s story.

All proceeds from the race went to benefit the New Britain YWCA’s SACS program, which coordinates sexual assault victims with victim advocates, who accompany them to hospitals, police stations and even the courtroom. All services are free and confidential. For more information, call the New Britain hot line at (860)223-1787 or visit Connsacs.org.





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 22, 2013, 11:05:51 PM
http://newbritainherald.com/content/articles/2013/04/21/news/doc517493736c2ad918549972.jpg

(resized)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/4f533745-c8f2-435c-9175-72cabe0e017a_zpsc6556ada.jpg)
Kevin Bartram | Staff News footage from 2005 is shown as Beth Holloway speaks following the 5K Race Against Violence on Sunday at Central Connecticut State University in New Britain. Holloway's daughter Natalie disappeared while on a school trip to Aruba in 2005.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 22, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
http://theadvocate.com/news/5781284-123/elizabeth-smart-to-talk-about

Elizabeth Smart to talk about kidnapping ordeal
Kidnapping victim to share ordeal, advice

BY MARSHA SILLS
Acadiana bureau
April 22, 2013

LAFAYETTE — Kidnapping survivor Elizabeth Smart will share her story of survival and hope with Lafayette residents May 2 as part of an educational outreach by Hearts of Hope, an advocacy and counseling center for children and sexual assault victims.

Smart was 14 when she was abducted June 5, 2002, from her Salt Lake City home. She endured rape and other abuses until she was discovered March 12, 2003, in Sandy, Utah, and reunited with her family.

“Miraculously, she was returned safely home, which is so rare to have a survivor to come forward and tell about their experience and how they overcame it. I can’t find the words to say how rare that is,” said Jill Dugas, executive director of Hearts of Hope.

Dugas said her organization hopes the talk will help others.

“We’re educating the community in hopes of telling them how to protect themselves, what to look for, the hope that comes with healing in overcoming traumatic experiences,” Dugas said.

Smart’s talk at 6:30 p.m. May 2 at Our Savior’s Church in Lafayette is a fundraiser for the nonprofit center with proceeds benefiting its three programs — the Children’s Advocacy Center, the Sexual Abuse Response Center and Sexual Assault Nurse Examiners.

“We’ve got 1,000 seats in this place that we’re trying to fill. If we can reach 1,000 people, that’s more than we would for a little fundraiser,” Dugas said.

The educational outreach will continue Oct. 17 with a talk by Beth Holloway, the mother of Natalee Holloway, who was 18 when she disappeared in 2005 during a senior trip to Aruba. An Alabama judge declared the teen legally dead last year.

Both speakers know about the statistics of abductions, said Natalie Johnson, Hearts of Hope marketing and events coordinator.

“Unfortunately, 90 percent of the time with abductions of this nature, people do not survive,” Johnson said. “This is an opportunity for people just to listen to some precautions and extra steps that they can take in being safe.”

Hearts of Hope provides counseling and advocacy services, and in 2012, the nonprofit center met the needs of nearly 700 children younger than 18 and nearly 1,000 sexual assault victims, Johnson said.

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 23, 2013, 01:01:14 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 23, 2013, 06:41:22 PM
Darn, lol  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/ContCase0418132_zps4265554a.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on April 23, 2013, 07:26:00 PM
Darn, lol  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/ContCase0418132_zps4265554a.jpg)
Geeze Louise!! So what is the March 9th, 2012 reference to??????

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 23, 2013, 07:31:28 PM
Just the date that order was signed.  Confusion at the court it seems  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on April 23, 2013, 07:34:53 PM
Just the date that order was signed.  Confusion at the court it seems  ::MonkeyCool::
I get that -- but it was March 2012 that the trial was set for 2014???? Still confused!
 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 23, 2013, 09:48:28 PM
Just the date that order was signed.  Confusion at the court it seems  ::MonkeyCool::
I get that -- but it was March 2012 that the trial was set for 2014???? Still confused!
 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Maybe instead of March 9th it should say April 9th? 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on April 23, 2013, 10:39:43 PM
Just the date that order was signed.  Confusion at the court it seems  ::MonkeyCool::
I get that -- but it was March 2012 that the trial was set for 2014???? Still confused!
 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Maybe instead of March 9th it should say April 9th? 
But it is still 2012 - not 2013! Surely they did not blow the date on the "corrected" document as well!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 24, 2013, 12:50:39 AM
Geez Wreck - quit noticing everything, LOLOL  ::MonkeyCool:: .  I haven't a clue.   Maybe it was a refiling and update to an old order?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on April 24, 2013, 01:57:07 AM
Geez Wreck - quit noticing everything, LOLOL  ::MonkeyCool:: .  I haven't a clue.   Maybe it was a refiling and update to an old order?
::MonkeyCool:: .. just causing trouble!!  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I was hoping for more "smiley faces"!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blue Moon on April 24, 2013, 11:20:50 AM
Darn, lol  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/ContCase0418132_zps4265554a.jpg)

Let's be honest here, how can they drag this on for so long without ever bringing it to trial?  Just doesn't make sense to me.  Just WHO is paying those scumbags bill?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 25, 2013, 12:46:54 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

 ::justice2NJ::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on April 25, 2013, 05:19:24 PM
http://www.cornwallseawaynews.com/News/2013-03-28/article-3209247/Mother-of-lost-teen-to-speak-at-CTC-event/1 (http://www.cornwallseawaynews.com/News/2013-03-28/article-3209247/Mother-of-lost-teen-to-speak-at-CTC-event/1)

Mother of lost teen to speak at CTC event
March 28, 2013-04-16

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On May 1 Beth Holloway will recount the tragedy of the loss at the Cornwall Civic Complex during the Children’s Treatment Centre Bike-A-Thon Plus Kick-Off Breakfast.

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http://www.courant.com/community/new-britain/hcrs-73607hc-new-britain-20130412,0,7160556.story (http://www.courant.com/community/new-britain/hcrs-73607hc-new-britain-20130412,0,7160556.story)

Beth Holloway To Speak At 'ENOUGH! Race To End Violence'
April 15, 2013
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Beth Holloway, known for her heroic efforts to find her missing daughter Natalee in Aruba in 2005, will be the special guest speaker at YWCA New Britain and Central Connecticut State University's Second Annual ENOUGH! Race to End Violence at CCSU on April 21.
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Reminder:

Holloway shares tragic story of daughter’s disappearance in Aruba


After the loss of her child in Aruba, Beth Holloway channels her pain to share her story.

On May 1, the heartbroken mother will be speaking at the Cornwall Civic Complex during the Children’s Treatment Centre Bike-A-Thon Plus Kick-Off Breakfast.

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Holloway bravely recounts her story at various events and to many people after working through her grief and coming out of her shell to become a motivational speaker, as well as establishing the Natalee Holloway Resource Centre — an organization that supports families who are coping with missing loved ones.

Admission is open to everyone who will take part in the Children’s Treatment Centre Bike-A-Thon Plus, an event that features various activities for all age groups.

For information or tickets, contact the Children’s Treatment Centre at 613-933-4400 or email ctc-sdg@cogeco.net.

http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2013/03/26/holloway-shares-tragic-story-of-daughters-disappearance-in-aruba


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on April 26, 2013, 01:39:31 AM
http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/752052/hoger_beroep_joran_van_der_sloot_op_29_mei

Google translation

Published on Friday, April 26, 2013 at 06:25:01
Appeal Joran Van der Sloot on May 29
 
(AP) - The first hearing in the appeal case of Joran van der Sloot is on Wednesday, May 29th place in Lima. That leaves a spokesman for the Supreme Court in the Peruvian capital to know Novum News.

Counsel for the Dutchman, Máximo Altez, expecting the beginning of the case initially June. He wants his client was present at the first session and it took the floor to make excuses. According to the Supreme Court may be allowed, in principle, but the defense of Van der Sloot's application has not yet been submitted.

During the public hearing claims include the defense of Van der Sloot across the court why the Dutchman wants to appeal. Altez find that errors were made ​​in the proceedings at first instance. He also believes that the former lawyer of Van der Sloot has deceived him. Counsel wants sentence. Altez has also asked the Inter-American Court of Human Rights to look forward to. Case
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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 26, 2013, 04:08:52 PM
http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/752052/hoger_beroep_joran_van_der_sloot_op_29_mei

Google translation

Published on Friday, April 26, 2013 at 06:25:01
Appeal Joran Van der Sloot on May 29
 
(AP) - The first hearing in the appeal case of Joran van der Sloot is on Wednesday, May 29th place in Lima. That leaves a spokesman for the Supreme Court in the Peruvian capital to know Novum News.

Counsel for the Dutchman, Máximo Altez, expecting the beginning of the case initially June. He wants his client was present at the first session and it took the floor to make excuses. According to the Supreme Court may be allowed, in principle, but the defense of Van der Sloot's application has not yet been submitted.

During the public hearing claims include the defense of Van der Sloot across the court why the Dutchman wants to appeal. Altez find that errors were made ​​in the proceedings at first instance. He also believes that the former lawyer of Van der Sloot has deceived him. Counsel wants sentence. Altez has also asked the Inter-American Court of Human Rights to look forward to. Case
 ::snipping2::


I hope on the anniversary of the day he kidnapped and murdered Natalee that he gets denied his attempt to get out of prison.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 26, 2013, 07:49:05 PM
 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on April 27, 2013, 01:09:52 AM
 ::rhino:: too!

I'm not sure exactly what it will be, but I know in my bones that the day will come when we're all going to be rushing back here because of new developments with Joran. That boy is just not destined to go on forever uneventfully, IMO.

What I would like is for Natalee's remains to be returned to Beth. I have hope with no reason, but sometimes that's a better thing to have.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 27, 2013, 01:15:29 AM
::rhino:: too!

I'm not sure exactly what it will be, but I know in my bones that the day will come when we're all going to be rushing back here because of new developments with Joran. That boy is just not destined to go on forever uneventfully, IMO.

What I would like is for Natalee's remains to be returned to Beth. I have hope with no reason, but sometimes that's a better thing to have.

 ::rhino:: ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on April 27, 2013, 01:47:41 PM
::rhino:: too!

I'm not sure exactly what it will be, but I know in my bones that the day will come when we're all going to be rushing back here because of new developments with Joran. That boy is just not destined to go on forever uneventfully, IMO.

What I would like is for Natalee's remains to be returned to Beth. I have hope with no reason, but sometimes that's a better thing to have.

I have that same gut feeling. I hope beyond hope it is finding Natalee and retuning her to America to her mum.
rather then his death.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on April 28, 2013, 03:41:46 PM
::rhino:: too!

I'm not sure exactly what it will be, but I know in my bones that the day will come when we're all going to be rushing back here because of new developments with Joran. That boy is just not destined to go on forever uneventfully, IMO.

What I would like is for Natalee's remains to be returned to Beth. I have hope with no reason, but sometimes that's a better thing to have.

I have that same gut feeling. I hope beyond hope it is finding Natalee and retuning her to America to her mum.
rather then his death.


It would be a BLESSING from God if Beth & Dave could have that type of closure! Urine will ultimately get what he has coming to him, however, it may not be as soon as we Monkey's would like. Hope all Monkey's are well in their respective parts of the USA!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 28, 2013, 09:45:53 PM
http://masnoticia.com/alto-comisario-caso-di-atraco-y-violacion-ta-un-sla-grandi-pa-e-pareha-turista/

Papiamentu translation:

alto comisario: caso of atraco y violacion is one sla big for her pareha turista

masnoticia april 28, 2013

after cu one pareha tourist owing to achieve his self in one caso of atraco y possible violacion can tell cu this was one sla duro for aruba. cuerpo policial will bay give more atencion for cuida we turism for cosnan so not happen more, according comisario of police dolfi richardson. end of year happen was show cu cosnan owing to mehora but now again have one caso regrettable owing to sosode where cu have posiblemente violacion of one person did take lugar. now is investigando this profundamente for so achieve know kico owing to sosode exactly. mensualmente police is sit cu the seguridadnan of the hotelnan for so monitorea the situation. have to go place camara of seguridad all caminda already cu this will descend the criminalidad. can place complete police on caminda but the hotelnan also have to place camara pace now hendenan can enter leave at they desire in the hotelnan. in the hotel where cu the caso did take lugar not had camara although cu they owing to tell of is in proceso for place this.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 28, 2013, 09:58:16 PM
If I understand correctly, the man was diving in Curacao, some of his diving equipment was found, and then his body washed up on the beach in Aruba days later.

http://masnoticia.com/curpa-sin-bida-haya-ta-drief-den-lama-pariba-di-molina-di-biento/

curpa without life achieve is drief in lama east of molina of wind

masnoticia april 26, 2013

diabierna first cu 11 or of night informe owing to enter tanto at central of police y centro of alarma cu one curpa without life achieve is drief in lama east of the molina of wind height of the zwartemangel. of trip one police is bay throw one view look at if this is cuadra y owing to come across cu one curpa of one person color blanco cu one flapper at canto of lama.di trip owing to place autoridadnan concerni at height. the person here his curpa is in full another estado. is sospecha cu the curpa here will is envolvi cu the perdida of the sambuyado max willen wederfoort naci 25 may1966 cu is perdi at curacao for of end of week of 21 april. y on 23 april owing to succeed achieve at fondo of lama 160 leg one diving gear. recherche owing to haci his investigacion at the sitio together cu departamento technico. fiscal owing to present happen of 12 or y owing to give orden for take the curpa in beslag for haci investigacion. behold the news cu masnoticia owing to publica on 23 april

http://masnoticia.com/famia-wederfoort-a-haci-oracion-y-cu-ofrenda-y-gradici-esnan-cu-a-haya-nan-ser-keri/

Papiamentu translation:

family wederfoort owing to haci oracion y cu ofrenda y gradici esnan cu owing to achieve they being keri

masnoticia april 27, 2013

saturday 9 or of morning family wederfoort of curacao owing to arrive aruba cu plane where in oranan of marduga they owing to stay informa cu at aruba owing to achieve one curpa of one person masculino without life at costa east of kia. the family owing to cuminsa busca autoridadnan competente for so look at if can confirma cu the curpa is of they being keri cu for of 21 of april not owing to arrive ground more at curacao after of owing to bay diving. via one potret the mother, father y casa of the defundo max wederfoort is reconoce they being keri cu owing to stay achieve without life east of aruba diabierna night. they owing to present at hospital the part of mortuario together cu fiscal, recherche for so look at the curpa but hour the autopsia owing to termina in careda of 3 or nightfall not owing to let family look at the curpa still. after owing to present at the office of recherche for look at more of the potretnan con owing to come encontra cu the curpa without life near of zwartemangel. alrededor of 5:30 nightfall, family together cu the personal of sarfa owing to present at the costa y here owing to haci oracion y one ofrenda floral. y family y the casa is gradici the are local cu is campando cu is esnan cu owing to beat alarma diabierna night y also at sarfa cu owing to haci they attempt of morning till nightfall for of baby beach till cu costa north of aruba for cu the buskeda rond of we costa if can owing to come across cu the curpa. family at ultimo owing to let the krans bay in lama y owing to place flornan on sand where they're despedi for 6 or of nightfall for of the lama.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 28, 2013, 10:05:34 PM
If I understand correctly, the man was diving in Curacao, some of his diving equipment was found, and then his body washed up on the beach in Aruba days later.

http://masnoticia.com/curpa-sin-bida-haya-ta-drief-den-lama-pariba-di-molina-di-biento/

curpa without life achieve is drief in lama east of molina of wind

masnoticia april 26, 2013

diabierna first cu 11 or of night informe owing to enter tanto at central of police y centro of alarma cu one curpa without life achieve is drief in lama east of the molina of wind height of the zwartemangel. of trip one police is bay throw one view look at if this is cuadra y owing to come across cu one curpa of one person color blanco cu one flapper at canto of lama.di trip owing to place autoridadnan concerni at height. the person here his curpa is in full another estado. is sospecha cu the curpa here will is envolvi cu the perdida of the sambuyado max willen wederfoort naci 25 may1966 cu is perdi at curacao for of end of week of 21 april. y on 23 april owing to succeed achieve at fondo of lama 160 leg one diving gear. recherche owing to haci his investigacion at the sitio together cu departamento technico. fiscal owing to present happen of 12 or y owing to give orden for take the curpa in beslag for haci investigacion. behold the news cu masnoticia owing to publica on 23 april

http://masnoticia.com/famia-wederfoort-a-haci-oracion-y-cu-ofrenda-y-gradici-esnan-cu-a-haya-nan-ser-keri/

Papiamentu translation:

family wederfoort owing to haci oracion y cu ofrenda y gradici esnan cu owing to achieve they being keri

masnoticia april 27, 2013

saturday 9 or of morning family wederfoort of curacao owing to arrive aruba cu plane where in oranan of marduga they owing to stay informa cu at aruba owing to achieve one curpa of one person masculino without life at costa east of kia. the family owing to cuminsa busca autoridadnan competente for so look at if can confirma cu the curpa is of they being keri cu for of 21 of april not owing to arrive ground more at curacao after of owing to bay diving. via one potret the mother, father y casa of the defundo max wederfoort is reconoce they being keri cu owing to stay achieve without life east of aruba diabierna night. they owing to present at hospital the part of mortuario together cu fiscal, recherche for so look at the curpa but hour the autopsia owing to termina in careda of 3 or nightfall not owing to let family look at the curpa still. after owing to present at the office of recherche for look at more of the potretnan con owing to come encontra cu the curpa without life near of zwartemangel. alrededor of 5:30 nightfall, family together cu the personal of sarfa owing to present at the costa y here owing to haci oracion y one ofrenda floral. y family y the casa is gradici the are local cu is campando cu is esnan cu owing to beat alarma diabierna night y also at sarfa cu owing to haci they attempt of morning till nightfall for of baby beach till cu costa north of aruba for cu the buskeda rond of we costa if can owing to come across cu the curpa. family at ultimo owing to let the krans bay in lama y owing to place flornan on sand where they're despedi for 6 or of nightfall for of the lama.

Article from April 23rd about the search for him in Curacao, I think it mentions them finding his diving equipment.

http://masnoticia.com/a-localisa-material-di-sambuya-di-sambuyado-wederfoort-den-fondo-di-lama/

owing to localisa material of diving of sambuyado wederfoort in fondo of lama

masnoticia april 23, 2013

in end of week at curacao one buskeda big did take lugar at the costa of westkust y also on lama for one person cu owing to bay diving y not owing to arrive ground never more. of trip owing to cuminsa haci investigacionnan big. y one dive expedition owing to localisa the diving gear of the sambuyado eric wederfoort in fondo of lama at 160 leg of the profundidad. the sitio in the fondo of lama is serca caminda the sambuyado owing to descend at water. for of monday is buscando the sambuyado here. this is informacionnan cu family owing to relata at prensa of curacao. the family owing to splica the achievement cu owing to localisa the material in fondo of lama, is one indicacion cu wederfoort owing to less the aparatura of diving for of his curpa for her can owing to arrive at superfise of water. algo have to owing to sosode cu owing to place cu the la haci this. the dive expedition was one work of esnan of come across, keep costa, navy reali y citro. owing to using super rhid, helicpter, y much sambuyado for busca wederfoort. at the momentonan here owing to stop all buskeda of the dive expedition. eric is conoci because; one perfect of sambuyado, y curacao is pendiente on cualkier news if can come across cu algo.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 28, 2013, 10:46:44 PM
http://www.qracao.com/index.php/dit-is-een-artikelen/7684-lichaam-max-wederfoort-vermoedelijk-gevonden-op-aruba

Google translation:

Body Max Wederfoort supposedly found in Aruba
Written by Press Office Curaçao | PDF | Print | E-mail

SAN NICOLAS - Last night around 23:00 is a corpse washed up on the beach at Black Mangel, at the height of the windmills on Aruba. On a base of the body was a pinball.

Identification has not happened yet, but it is suspected that it is the body of Max Wederfoort. Who disappeared on April 21 after a swim with his brother at Watamula, Curacao. Max (46) is the son of Eric Wederfoort the famous diving at Boca Sami.



http://www.duiken.nl/index.php?pageid=18&newsitemtitle=identiteit-aangespoelde-duiker-bekend

Google translation:

Identity washed diver known
28-04-13

It washed up on Aruba remains identified. It turned out to be the missing diver Max Wederfoort, as previously suspected. This confirms Curd Evertsz, spokesman for the family. Last night stranded on the east coast of Aruba a body with a flipper on his foot.

"It was in line with expectations that he would wash up there," explained Evertsz to opposite Versgeperst.com. The body crow flies about 48 miles traveled. Wederfoort (46) Sunday went diving with his brother. The brothers agreed to meet each other on the diver Watamula but never arrived there. The Coast Guard and rescue organization Citro spent three days looking for him in vain.

Hard blow
Evertsz spoke of a 'hard blow' for the family. The family has left at sea in Aruba. After establishing the identity in a short ceremony flowers Tonight flies the family back to Curacao.

Cause
It is not yet known how Wederfoort has fallen into trouble. "At first we did the recognition of the body, it is known who is involved. Only later we check what happened, "said Everts. After the identification of the body, followed by autopsy.

SOURCE. By: Peter Hofmann


I think this may be the Facebook page for his father's dive school.  I see some condolences there in the comments by others.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dive-Wederfoort/139046289456212


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 28, 2013, 11:10:38 PM
http://masnoticia.com/alto-comisario-caso-di-atraco-y-violacion-ta-un-sla-grandi-pa-e-pareha-turista/

Papiamentu translation:

alto comisario: caso of atraco y violacion is one sla big for her pareha turista

masnoticia april 28, 2013

after cu one pareha tourist owing to achieve his self in one caso of atraco y possible violacion can tell cu this was one sla duro for aruba. cuerpo policial will bay give more atencion for cuida we turism for cosnan so not happen more, according comisario of police dolfi richardson. end of year happen was show cu cosnan owing to mehora but now again have one caso regrettable owing to sosode where cu have posiblemente violacion of one person did take lugar. now is investigando this profundamente for so achieve know kico owing to sosode exactly. mensualmente police is sit cu the seguridadnan of the hotelnan for so monitorea the situation. have to go place camara of seguridad all caminda already cu this will descend the criminalidad. can place complete police on caminda but the hotelnan also have to place camara pace now hendenan can enter leave at they desire in the hotelnan. in the hotel where cu the caso did take lugar not had camara although cu they owing to tell of is in proceso for place this.

I don't know if this is the same incident or not?  The way the article above is worded, I'm wondering if it was a rape too?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.awe24.com/20130422/14288/Turista_maltrata_y_atraca_den_su_mesun_camber_na_hotel_turistanan_no_ta_safe

Papiamentu translation:

tourist maltrata y atraca in his same camber at hotel, turistanan do not safe neither in they camber more?

6 day happen come across, 22 of april 2013 10:39

seccion: incidente

monday morning owing to enter informe of one caso of maltrato cu atraco at tropicana resort, at once owing to dirigi one patrol at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol abin compronde cu here is deal of one tourist cual owing to being atraca y maltrata in his same camber at the hotel. owing to ask presencia of ambulance because; also slachtofferhulp for come give asistencia at the victima. the other instancianan of investigacion forensico y also recherchenan owing to bay for inicia cu the investigacion. is what is pasando? is for of enough time we owing to come is alerta y critica gobierno, ministro y parliament for come cu leynan more pisa y aumenta vigilancia poniendo more police on caya. but not, the minister owing to busca cantidad of car but for stop is pronk fast keep of police. dikon if have much police for hour of control of trafico? (nada contra control of trafico) but have to have more vigilancia on caya y cu cambio in ley for aumento of castigo, therefore.e. instead of place ley cu is tell cu maximo tanto time of castigo for cierto crimennan place leynan cu is tell minimo tanto time y enough high. already siquiera so we comunidad will achieve one alivio y we turistanan will can disfruta more of we island safe. cu the is costa much coin do not importa already cu mihor we coin bay for cubri gastonan for mantene the criminalnan ey close cu spaar the coin ey y kill we turism cual is we unique industry.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 28, 2013, 11:30:22 PM
http://masnoticia.com/alto-comisario-caso-di-atraco-y-violacion-ta-un-sla-grandi-pa-e-pareha-turista/

Papiamentu translation:

alto comisario: caso of atraco y violacion is one sla big for her pareha turista

masnoticia april 28, 2013

after cu one pareha tourist owing to achieve his self in one caso of atraco y possible violacion can tell cu this was one sla duro for aruba. cuerpo policial will bay give more atencion for cuida we turism for cosnan so not happen more, according comisario of police dolfi richardson. end of year happen was show cu cosnan owing to mehora but now again have one caso regrettable owing to sosode where cu have posiblemente violacion of one person did take lugar. now is investigando this profundamente for so achieve know kico owing to sosode exactly. mensualmente police is sit cu the seguridadnan of the hotelnan for so monitorea the situation. have to go place camara of seguridad all caminda already cu this will descend the criminalidad. can place complete police on caminda but the hotelnan also have to place camara pace now hendenan can enter leave at they desire in the hotelnan. in the hotel where cu the caso did take lugar not had camara although cu they owing to tell of is in proceso for place this.

I don't know if this is the same incident or not?  The way the article above is worded, I'm wondering if it was a rape too?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.awe24.com/20130422/14288/Turista_maltrata_y_atraca_den_su_mesun_camber_na_hotel_turistanan_no_ta_safe

Papiamentu translation:

tourist maltrata y atraca in his same camber at hotel, turistanan do not safe neither in they camber more?

6 day happen come across, 22 of april 2013 10:39

seccion: incidente

monday morning owing to enter informe of one caso of maltrato cu atraco at tropicana resort, at once owing to dirigi one patrol at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol abin compronde cu here is deal of one tourist cual owing to being atraca y maltrata in his same camber at the hotel. owing to ask presencia of ambulance because; also slachtofferhulp for come give asistencia at the victima. the other instancianan of investigacion forensico y also recherchenan owing to bay for inicia cu the investigacion. is what is pasando? is for of enough time we owing to come is alerta y critica gobierno, ministro y parliament for come cu leynan more pisa y aumenta vigilancia poniendo more police on caya. but not, the minister owing to busca cantidad of car but for stop is pronk fast keep of police. dikon if have much police for hour of control of trafico? (nada contra control of trafico) but have to have more vigilancia on caya y cu cambio in ley for aumento of castigo, therefore.e. instead of place ley cu is tell cu maximo tanto time of castigo for cierto crimennan place leynan cu is tell minimo tanto time y enough high. already siquiera so we comunidad will achieve one alivio y we turistanan will can disfruta more of we island safe. cu the is costa much coin do not importa already cu mihor we coin bay for cubri gastonan for mantene the criminalnan ey close cu spaar the coin ey y kill we turism cual is we unique industry.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/62687-turista-atraca-y-maltrata-den-nan-mesun-kamber-di-hotel

Papiamentu translation:

tourist atraca y maltrata in they same bedroom of hotel

monday, 22 april 2013 12:54

investigacion big andando on caso where in oranan of monday morning pareha owing to become victima of atraco y maltrato in they same bedroom at tropicana hotel. owing to see one cantidad of autoridadnan concerni for of recherche till cu slachtofferhulp is enter the hotel. personal of seguridad will owing to come achieve the situation. do not confirma if algo more will can owing to sosode in bedroom. is desconoci if camara of siguridad will can owing to graba the movecionnan of the criminalnan. this assure is golpi strong contra we turism, we island is profila his self because; uno much assure y actonan as esun of monday morning is of condena.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 28, 2013, 11:41:55 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Case/NatbirdStephany2.gif)

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!

 ::justice2NJ::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Buckeye on April 29, 2013, 07:11:32 AM
http://masnoticia.com/alto-comisario-caso-di-atraco-y-violacion-ta-un-sla-grandi-pa-e-pareha-turista/

Papiamentu translation:

alto comisario: caso of atraco y violacion is one sla big for her pareha turista

masnoticia april 28, 2013

after cu one pareha tourist owing to achieve his self in one caso of atraco y possible violacion can tell cu this was one sla duro for aruba. cuerpo policial will bay give more atencion for cuida we turism for cosnan so not happen more, according comisario of police dolfi richardson. end of year happen was show cu cosnan owing to mehora but now again have one caso regrettable owing to sosode where cu have posiblemente violacion of one person did take lugar. now is investigando this profundamente for so achieve know kico owing to sosode exactly. mensualmente police is sit cu the seguridadnan of the hotelnan for so monitorea the situation. have to go place camara of seguridad all caminda already cu this will descend the criminalidad. can place complete police on caminda but the hotelnan also have to place camara pace now hendenan can enter leave at they desire in the hotelnan. in the hotel where cu the caso did take lugar not had camara although cu they owing to tell of is in proceso for place this.

I don't know if this is the same incident or not?  The way the article above is worded, I'm wondering if it was a rape too?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.awe24.com/20130422/14288/Turista_maltrata_y_atraca_den_su_mesun_camber_na_hotel_turistanan_no_ta_safe

Papiamentu translation:

tourist maltrata y atraca in his same camber at hotel, turistanan do not safe neither in they camber more?

6 day happen come across, 22 of april 2013 10:39

seccion: incidente

monday morning owing to enter informe of one caso of maltrato cu atraco at tropicana resort, at once owing to dirigi one patrol at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol abin compronde cu here is deal of one tourist cual owing to being atraca y maltrata in his same camber at the hotel. owing to ask presencia of ambulance because; also slachtofferhulp for come give asistencia at the victima. the other instancianan of investigacion forensico y also recherchenan owing to bay for inicia cu the investigacion. is what is pasando? is for of enough time we owing to come is alerta y critica gobierno, ministro y parliament for come cu leynan more pisa y aumenta vigilancia poniendo more police on caya. but not, the minister owing to busca cantidad of car but for stop is pronk fast keep of police. dikon if have much police for hour of control of trafico? (nada contra control of trafico) but have to have more vigilancia on caya y cu cambio in ley for aumento of castigo, therefore.e. instead of place ley cu is tell cu maximo tanto time of castigo for cierto crimennan place leynan cu is tell minimo tanto time y enough high. already siquiera so we comunidad will achieve one alivio y we turistanan will can disfruta more of we island safe. cu the is costa much coin do not importa already cu mihor we coin bay for cubri gastonan for mantene the criminalnan ey close cu spaar the coin ey y kill we turism cual is we unique industry.

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/62687-turista-atraca-y-maltrata-den-nan-mesun-kamber-di-hotel

Papiamentu translation:

tourist atraca y maltrata in they same bedroom of hotel

monday, 22 april 2013 12:54

investigacion big andando on caso where in oranan of monday morning pareha owing to become victima of atraco y maltrato in they same bedroom at tropicana hotel. owing to see one cantidad of autoridadnan concerni for of recherche till cu slachtofferhulp is enter the hotel. personal of seguridad will owing to come achieve the situation. do not confirma if algo more will can owing to sosode in bedroom. is desconoci if camara of siguridad will can owing to graba the movecionnan of the criminalnan. this assure is golpi strong contra we turism, we island is profila his self because; uno much assure y actonan as esun of monday morning is of condena.

Friday April 26, 2013

I have debated for a few days about putting this out there and thought maybe it maybe something everyone should know about. Last week (not sure of the day), a woman was attacked in her room during the day at the Tropicana. She was assaulted and robbed in her room. The woman was in her 50's and here on vacation. Due to the assault, she requested and was moved to another resort and then went back to the states 3 days ahead of schedule. This story did not make the local English language papers but was in the island news papers that the locals get. Local police and the American consulate were involved in the investigation but I have not heard any more about it or who the perpetrators were. I do not know if they were locals or off islanders. I don't want to panic or scare anyone, but want you all to know that crime is here and to be mindful of who is around and where you are. . . . This is a wonderful island and I want you all to be safe and enjoy your stay here. . . . .


http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=95316


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on April 30, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Thanks Buckeye!   ::MonkeyCool::

I read someone else's comment there that they read it in the Amigoe.

Subscriber article....

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=100

Google translation:


Few tourists robbed in hotel room
MONDAY, APRIL 22, 2013 16:06
ORANGE CITY - A tourist couple in their room at the Hotel Tropicana attacked, allegedly by two men. The security of the hotel hit this morning alarm. The robbery is "taken something" ...
Read more ...



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 01, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/beth-holloway-makes-first-appearance-in-canada-1.1262004

Beth Holloway makes first appearance in Canada


CTV Ottawa

Published Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:37PM EDT

Beth Holloway shared her personal story involving her missing daughter to a crowd of hundreds in Cornwall today.

Holloway's daughter, Natalee. disappeared during a school trip to Aruba in 2005.
Her body has never been recovered.

"I'm at peace now and our perpetrator is in prison where he belongs. This enables me to inspire and to move forward and to to reach out and help others," said Holloway

Beth Holloway has set up a foundation to help locate missing people.

She addressed the Cornwall Chidren's Treatment Centre at a breakfast.




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 08, 2013, 10:23:05 PM
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/05_mei/03/binnenland/jaar_cel_voor_vriend_joran_van_der_sloot.xml

Google translation:

RTL News | May 3, 2013, 10:24

Years in prison for "friend" Joran van der Sloot

The 40-year-old Patrick van der Eem from Arnhem, with a hidden camera in a car his friend Joran van der Sloot a "confession" about the murder of Natalee Holloway elicited, have one year in jail. The court in Arnhem is proved that Van der Eem with two co-defendants for 30,000 euro took expensive ski equipment at the Ski lodge in Oosterbeek, where they beat to pieces with sledgehammers the front.

 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 08, 2013, 10:39:55 PM
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/2909/tv/article/detail/1615807/2013/04/16/Peter-R-de-Vries-maakt-zesdelige-tv-serie.dhtml

Google translation:

Peter R. de Vries makes six-part TV series

Edited by: admin - 04/16/13, 14u52 - Source: Volkskrant.nl

The Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries working on a program set for the merger Dutch broadcaster TROS-AVRO. Which the six-part television series will go, is still unclear. It is according to the production company Content Division a "large, complex" project at the earliest will be broadcast in the spring of 2014. De Vries is our best known for his coverage of the disappearance of American Nathalie Holloway in Aruba. In January 2008 the Dutch claimed to have solved the case. Through his undercover recordings, the case was reopened against the suspect Joran van der Sloot.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 08, 2013, 10:52:15 PM
From Curacao

http://www.latintimes.com/articles/3737/20130508/helmin-wiels-curacao-politician-shot-dead-marie.htm

Helmin Wiels, Curacao Politician, Shot Dead On Marie Pompoen Beach
By Amanda Schiavo, May 08, 2013 05:05 PM EDT

On Sunday afternoon, a prominent Curacao politician was shot to death on a pier located on a beach at the east side of the island of Curacao. According to the BBC, witnesses say a gunman killed Wiels on the beach and then sped off in a car.

Helmin Wiels was the leader of the Pueblo Soberano party -- a group with the goal of gaining independence for Curacao from the Netherlands.

According to curacaochronicle.com, "Pueblo Soberano is the largest party in government at this moment. After last election it became the leading party to form a government."

The BBC also reports that Wiels is the first politician to be assassinated on the Island of Curacao.

The Office of the Public Prosecutor issued a statement saying, "The Public Prosecutor's Office Curaçao formed a 'Major Investigation Team' (TGO) after the fatal shooting at Marie Pampoen on Sunday evening. All partners in the judicial chain, led by various public prosecutors, are participating in this."

The Prime Minister spoke to the media and said that they "are not accustomed to these things on the island." No motive for the killing has been stated and there are no suspects in custody. Authorities believe organized crime played a part in the assassination of Helmin Wiels. 

Wireupdate.com says, "Pueblo Soberano won last year's general election with 22.6 percent of the vote, giving it five seats in the 21-member Estates of Curacao. Wiels had received death threats in the past and would typically have a bodyguard with him, but the bodyguard had already been sent home at the time of the shooting."

Witnesses speaking with various news outlets say two gunmen approached Wiels on the beach and fired five shots killing the politician. No bystanders were hurt during the assassination.

 
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/13264/Helmin-Wiels-vermoord/article/detail/3438119/2013/05/08/Aangehouden-broers-Curacao-verdacht-van-moord.dhtml

Google translation:

Held Curaçao brothers suspected of murder
Edited by: admin - 08/05/13, 04:04 - Source: Reuters


The two men were arrested Tuesday afternoon because they would have posted, suspected of threat and premeditated murder. Threatening a video on YouTube after the murder of politician Helmin Wiels in Curacao That the police on Tuesday (local time) announced. Police would not say whether it is the murder of Wiels.

It is about two brothers of 27 and 19 years. They have reported himself to the police. Monday they had put a video on YouTube in which they announce that the murder Wiels the first of a series and that there is still a bloodbath will follow. The video caused great concern in Curaçao. After the arrest, the police raided two, inter alia seized a computer is taken. The 54-year-old Wiels, fighter for independence of Curaçao, led the largest party on the island, Pueblo Soberano. He was shot dead Sunday on the beach.
 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 08, 2013, 11:08:08 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/151533-smeergeld-en-corruptie-binnen-overheid

Google translation:


"Bribes and corruption within government '         

WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2013 16:40

ORANGE CITY - Business leaders in Aruba have to deal with corruption, nepotism and too much bureaucracy in contact with the government. These are the main conclusions of a study by Michiel de Vries of the University of Aruba (UA).

By our reporter

Ariën Rasmijn

De Vries, a special funded by the Governor of Aruba chair good governance holds at UA, presented the findings of the report last night during a lecture in the auditorium of the university. Initially wanted De Vries from inside look at how public services dealing with corporate clients. However, he was denied access. "Then but from outside, from the business community." Of the many companies that were approached in April finally reacted 97 directors. They were among more questions on the functioning of the Aruban government in terms of effectiveness, efficiency, accessibility, expertise, quality of the civil service and administrative integrity. It was also asked about the last time that genuine consultation was held with the Aruban government about the company's key business.

Kickbacks and corruption

The responses of the surveyed managers about where they actually have to deal with when they approach a government, are shocking: 33.8 percent think the government action the last time there was insufficient contact and 23 percent even find it bad .

18.8 percent of the managers who were finally granted their request, called kickbacks and 21.9 percent called corruption. 30 percent say it was settled by private treaty. 41.2 percent reported excessive bureaucracy and 48.5 percent appoints high administrative burden. 48.5 percent of respondents signals cronyism.

Of the companies that did not see their request granted, identifies 33.3 percent corruption. 25 percent kickbacks deficit came to each other to have their business. 93.9 percent appoints excessive bureaucracy and 87.1 percent talks about working at cross of administrations. 59.4 percent called nepotism. 48.3 percent complains about high administrative costs and 58.8 percent even appoint three or more of the problems in the process. Said It is striking that the above mentioned cases of bribes in situations where a company asks an official advice. De Vries explains that this is not the case with permits, precisely because there are all sorts of controls.

Of all the companies who participated in the study had 12 percent no problems.

Companies anonymous

De Vries in the report omitted all the characteristics that would indicate the possible identity of this business. Because they were reluctant to participate in the survey, for fear that they would then be able to do with the government. Part no more business with the company name These companies all over the island, with a fairly even split between companies that existed in the last century and companies less than five years old. On average they have about fifteen people, but there are also sole traders and companies with more than 200 employees. These are directors of trade, tourism, real estate agents, lawyers and accountants. But managers of service companies, manufacturing, wholesale and medium-sized enterprises completed the questionnaire.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 08, 2013, 11:16:02 PM
http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/151516-oud-premier-balkenende-bestrijd-drugs-en-corruptie

Google translation:

Former Prime Minister Balkenende: 'Fight drugs and corruption'         

WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2013 16:04

ORANGE CITY - The economic opportunities for Aruba as a hub between Europe and Latin America are up for grabs, but Aruba to drug trafficking and corruption continue to fight and be careful not to get blacklisted as a tax haven. This saying Jan Peter Balkenende and Caroline Rodenburg of accounting firm Ernst & Young.

by

Ariën Rasmij n

If you want to achieve things, then you must first have a dream, an ideal, says Jan Peter Balkenende, Corporate Responsibility partner at accounting firm Ernst & Young and former Prime Minister of the Netherlands. "That is the case here." In a dream follows a strategy and that's where Ernst & Young boarded. That strategy - based on the transfer of knowledge on sustainable infrastructure, energy, agriculture and tourism from Europe to Latin America, Aruba as facilitating switching - was by Balkenende presented Monday during the first day of the conference Europe Meets the Americas (EMA) . What now remains is to perform and the plans will actually continue, he tells Amigoe .

Balkenende feels that something is happening on Aruba. "What I find important developments on Aruba is that it actually is working to turn to ask what Aruba can contribute to a better global society. A long-term orientation down" Aruba takes with this statement a leader position, explains he. "There is no other island in the Caribbean where this occurs. It shows courage and I think it is very good that your next tourism other economic activities trying to find. "In the Netherlands, one often has an attitude of 'yes, but', the former Prime Minister. "But the point is to bring the case. Moving" That Aruba is organizing a conference like EMA also testifies to this, says Balkenende. He thinks Aruba buzzing, like the Gulf States in the Middle East, parts of China and Bangalore in India. "Look at what is happening on other islands, such as political developments in St. Maarten, the hideous murder of Helmin Wiels in Curacao. That causes me great concern. But here depends just want to tackle an atmosphere of business and bring things. "Forward The island is characterized by political stability and good links with the Netherlands, will Balkenende.

Drugs and corrupti e

Balkenende lists a number of conditions for the success of Aruba. Amigoe published yesterday that the former prime minister believes that there is a balance to be struck between short-and long-term goals. "It is a matter of courage in politics. And that has been here. "Safety is also an issue. Aruba has always been and still is a problem with smuggling of people, goods and drugs. "These things we also going to tackle," said Balkenende. "I was once a time on St. Maarten and made a speech in the courthouse. I then gave a huge warning about corruption and lack of integrity. When my message was that if corruption occurs on an island, you can get which investors say they do not want to do business. More a situation And in the fight against drugs, yes there will always have to act. That is also part of reliability, hence it must apply: address ".

Colombia, Brazil, Panama a

A dream is a strategy which make this dream. Caroline Rodenburg signed that strategy. "We were there last summer started. We have built up by first look. At both sides of the ocean Aruba as a hub function between two continents will perform, you should also know what is happening in those continents. What can we expect, what are the issues and opportunities in particular. Initially we looked at Brazil, Colombia and Panama and what's going to happen the coming years. Which sectors will develop rapidly in the coming years and which will be on the basis of opportunities. "Now the economy slows in Europe, his eyes focused on emerging economies in Latin America, Van Rodenburg. Europe is also where a lot of knowledge in Latin America need. "For instance, consider the agrifood sector. Within Latin America is very strong need to make this sector. Sustainable In the Netherlands, for example, a lot of knowledge about breeding of seeds, which can be used in Latin America. "

Facilitato r

The role of Aruba in the transfer of this knowledge to fulfill is that of facilitator. "Not by running large manufacturing companies to attract to the island. Not by actively contributing to economic development in Latin America itself. Brazil wants to build 800 airports in the coming years. Aruba as the bulldozers can not deliver. What Aruba is or may be the contact point between the need of knowledge in Latin America and the knowledge in Europe. The establishment of TNO here is the perfect example for. You can also look at training in Europe which can settle here, "says Van Rodenburg. This type of activity again attract highly skilled Arubans - eg lawyers - to the island. Moreover, low education may also to the bin, but in data processing. Of Rodenburg is convinced that the positive economic effects of the drop of a knowledge hub will be felt. Within a few years

Prefer not to black LISTS n

It will need a good look at legislation, Van Rodenburg. "Of course you have to watch out that you do not tax haven is, in the sense that you will get up on blacklists. But there are many ways still an attractive environment to ensure businesses. "As an example, Rodenburg From Green Zone Aruba, where companies specializing in sustainability can settle. "Then you do not even so much to do to make them attractive to it. The very fact that there are companies that are working with the same subject, makes it attractive for them. Since synergy. "Occurs


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 08, 2013, 11:27:29 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_hollowayfamilygall-550x4-8.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

  ::justice2nj2::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on May 09, 2013, 06:38:50 PM
I don't know where to start, but I've spent the last couple of years working and going to school. I received my AAS in Political Science about a year ago, applied to the University of Washington, but was told that I needed to fulfill my World Language Requirement, as I fell short by a year. So, I finished up my World Language Requirement, and just today, I received my acceptance letter to the University of Washington. After spending so much time with the Monkey's discussing how Natalee Holloway wasn't afforded the opportunity to continue to touch lives, because of a MONSTER on the island of Aruba, I was again reminded we only get one go around. It is NEVER to late for those of us still blessed with this thing we call life, to make a change.

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO

GOD BLESS!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 09, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
I don't know where to start, but I've spent the last couple of years working and going to school. I received my AAS in Political Science about a year ago, applied to the University of Washington, but was told that I needed to fulfill my World Language Requirement, as I fell short by a year. So, I finished up my World Language Requirement, and just today, I received my acceptance letter to the University of Washington. After spending so much time with the Monkey's discussing how Natalee Holloway wasn't afforded the opportunity to continue to touch lives, because of a MONSTER on the island of Aruba, I was again reminded we only get one go around. It is NEVER to late for those of us still blessed with this thing we call life, to make a change.

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO

GOD BLESS!!


 ::MonkeyCool::
Congratulations KTF!!!    ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 09, 2013, 07:11:21 PM
I don't know where to start, but I've spent the last couple of years working and going to school. I received my AAS in Political Science about a year ago, applied to the University of Washington, but was told that I needed to fulfill my World Language Requirement, as I fell short by a year. So, I finished up my World Language Requirement, and just today, I received my acceptance letter to the University of Washington. After spending so much time with the Monkey's discussing how Natalee Holloway wasn't afforded the opportunity to continue to touch lives, because of a MONSTER on the island of Aruba, I was again reminded we only get one go around. It is NEVER to late for those of us still blessed with this thing we call life, to make a change.

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO

GOD BLESS!!

 ::MonkeyDance:: Totally awesome KTF!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 09, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
I don't know where to start, but I've spent the last couple of years working and going to school. I received my AAS in Political Science about a year ago, applied to the University of Washington, but was told that I needed to fulfill my World Language Requirement, as I fell short by a year. So, I finished up my World Language Requirement, and just today, I received my acceptance letter to the University of Washington. After spending so much time with the Monkey's discussing how Natalee Holloway wasn't afforded the opportunity to continue to touch lives, because of a MONSTER on the island of Aruba, I was again reminded we only get one go around. It is NEVER to late for those of us still blessed with this thing we call life, to make a change.

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO

GOD BLESS!!
Absolutely outstanding!!!! Congrats!! Who'd figure you would choose U of Washington!!  ::MonkeyCool::  ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on May 10, 2013, 01:57:43 PM
Thank you Muffy, Klaas, and Wreck. Many of the discussions we have had over the years in regards to Natalee Holloway and her unfortunate murder and disappearance, have had a great impact on my decision to return and finish school. Over the past year or two I've reflected on many different things, and the Monkey's have always played a special part in my progress as an Older But Wiser student, as they call me in the admissions dept. of the UW.

We've had some heated discussions over the years, but I just want to let you all know, I will always be a part of this forum, seek justice for Natalee Holloway, and will always keep ya'll updated on my progress at the UW, in the proper forum. Go Huskies!

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 10, 2013, 03:05:39 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer4::   :thumright: :2notworthy:


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on May 10, 2013, 09:36:23 PM
I don't know where to start, but I've spent the last couple of years working and going to school. I received my AAS in Political Science about a year ago, applied to the University of Washington, but was told that I needed to fulfill my World Language Requirement, as I fell short by a year. So, I finished up my World Language Requirement, and just today, I received my acceptance letter to the University of Washington. After spending so much time with the Monkey's discussing how Natalee Holloway wasn't afforded the opportunity to continue to touch lives, because of a MONSTER on the island of Aruba, I was again reminded we only get one go around. It is NEVER to late for those of us still blessed with this thing we call life, to make a change.

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO

GOD BLESS!!

KTF,
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
Man that was fast. Seems like only yesterday and now you are done and off to a new start
I can't say how happy I am and proud of you. I think you know that. You are a good example of
how to set your sights and be an example of good in the world. Amazing.
Congratulations.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 11, 2013, 10:13:40 AM
I don't know where to start, but I've spent the last couple of years working and going to school. I received my AAS in Political Science about a year ago, applied to the University of Washington, but was told that I needed to fulfill my World Language Requirement, as I fell short by a year. So, I finished up my World Language Requirement, and just today, I received my acceptance letter to the University of Washington. After spending so much time with the Monkey's discussing how Natalee Holloway wasn't afforded the opportunity to continue to touch lives, because of a MONSTER on the island of Aruba, I was again reminded we only get one go around. It is NEVER to late for those of us still blessed with this thing we call life, to make a change.

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO

GOD BLESS!!

CONGRATULATIONS, KTF!! You're proof positive that even in the midst of tragedy, we never know where the ripples will travel to reach good.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: billb's daughter on May 13, 2013, 02:02:49 AM
I don't know where to start, but I've spent the last couple of years working and going to school. I received my AAS in Political Science about a year ago, applied to the University of Washington, but was told that I needed to fulfill my World Language Requirement, as I fell short by a year. So, I finished up my World Language Requirement, and just today, I received my acceptance letter to the University of Washington. After spending so much time with the Monkey's discussing how Natalee Holloway wasn't afforded the opportunity to continue to touch lives, because of a MONSTER on the island of Aruba, I was again reminded we only get one go around. It is NEVER to late for those of us still blessed with this thing we call life, to make a change.

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO
KTF...
Change is good...looking forward is great! Our love for Natalee is FOREVER.......


GOD BLESS!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: billb's daughter on May 13, 2013, 02:06:58 AM
Guess I'm getting old...Haven't been here in a while and guess I forgot how to post....
KTF...
Change is good...looking forward is great! Our love for Natalee is FOREVER.......

BillB


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on May 13, 2013, 03:35:57 AM
Thank you Nut, CBB, Kermit, and BillB. It is nice to know that we are all still here, so many years later. It is a testament, not only to the fortitude of us Monkey's, but the impact Natalee Holloway has on us till this day!

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY & STEPHANY FLORES

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH



::monkeyflag3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 13, 2013, 09:54:32 AM
Thank you Muffy, Klaas, and Wreck. Many of the discussions we have had over the years in regards to Natalee Holloway and her unfortunate murder and disappearance, have had a great impact on my decision to return and finish school. Over the past year or two I've reflected on many different things, and the Monkey's have always played a special part in my progress as an Older But Wiser student, as they call me in the admissions dept. of the UW.

We've had some heated discussions over the years, but I just want to let you all know, I will always be a part of this forum, seek justice for Natalee Holloway, and will always keep ya'll updated on my progress at the UW, in the proper forum. Go Huskies!

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH

 ::MonkeyCool::
You're welcome KTF.  I look forward to seeing more of your posts & updates.  ::bee::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on May 13, 2013, 09:55:15 AM
Guess I'm getting old...Haven't been here in a while and guess I forgot how to post....
KTF...
Change is good...looking forward is great! Our love for Natalee is FOREVER.......

BillB

Hey billb!   ::HelloKitty:: 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: billb's daughter on May 13, 2013, 10:42:27 PM
Guess I'm getting old...Haven't been here in a while and guess I forgot how to post....
KTF...
Change is good...looking forward is great! Our love for Natalee is FOREVER.......

BillB

Hey billb!   ::HelloKitty:: 
Hey back at you MuffyBee.
Hope all is well with you and yours....
I always think of Beth and her loss of Natalee on Mother's Day and prey it will never happen to a family again on that devil island called Aruba,


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 13, 2013, 11:53:01 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee! 

  ::justice2nj2::






Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 14, 2013, 12:54:38 AM
Guess I'm getting old...Haven't been here in a while and guess I forgot how to post....
KTF...
Change is good...looking forward is great! Our love for Natalee is FOREVER.......

BillB
Great to hear from you!! Not a lot to talk about lately ..... but we are still here!!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: billb's daughter on May 14, 2013, 01:09:14 AM
Guess I'm getting old...Haven't been here in a while and guess I forgot how to post....
KTF...
Change is good...looking forward is great! Our love for Natalee is FOREVER.......

BillB
Great to hear from you!! Not a lot to talk about lately ..... but we are still here!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Concur wreck.....everyone here past and present came here for Justice for Natalee and although our goals didn't get what most of us wanted so bad.....friendships and bonds were formed with like minded folks (some of us so bold-headed that we fought even though we agreed).. ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on May 14, 2013, 05:33:48 PM
Guess I'm getting old...Haven't been here in a while and guess I forgot how to post....
KTF...
Change is good...looking forward is great! Our love for Natalee is FOREVER.......

BillB
Great to hear from you!! Not a lot to talk about lately ..... but we are still here!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Concur wreck.....everyone here past and present came here for Justice for Natalee and although our goals didn't get what most of us wanted so bad.....friendships and bonds were formed with like minded folks (some of us so bold-headed that we fought even though we agreed).. ::rhino::


Billb, Wreck & Rob,

Maybe we could write chapter 2 of Deliverance once I get done with school by going down to Peru, making a jailbreak with Urine and take him down the Amazon for a nice ride. And I do mean a nice ride... ::piggy:: Miss all the Monkey's, you all are on my mind, and JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND STEPHANY FLORES will come when we least expect it; however, I think it would be EPIC if four American's(KTF, Wreck, Billb, and Rob) were featured in the news globally, for taking an unexpected Urine down the Amazon for an EPIC adventure...  ::piggy::

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY & STEPHANY FLORES

KEEPTHEFAITH


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Keepthefaith on May 14, 2013, 05:35:24 PM
Guess I'm getting old...Haven't been here in a while and guess I forgot how to post....
KTF...
Change is good...looking forward is great! Our love for Natalee is FOREVER.......

BillB
Great to hear from you!! Not a lot to talk about lately ..... but we are still here!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Concur wreck.....everyone here past and present came here for Justice for Natalee and although our goals didn't get what most of us wanted so bad.....friendships and bonds were formed with like minded folks (some of us so bold-headed that we fought even though we agreed).. ::rhino::


Billb, Wreck & Rob,

Maybe we could write chapter 2 of Deliverance once I get done with school by going down to Peru, making a jailbreak with Urine and take him down the Amazon for a nice ride. And I do mean a nice ride... ::piggy:: Miss all the Monkey's, you all are on my mind, and JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND STEPHANY FLORES will come when we least expect it; however, I think it would be EPIC if four American's(KTF, Wreck, Billb, and Rob) were featured in the news globally, for taking an unexpected Urine down the Amazon for an EPIC adventure...  ::piggy::

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY & STEPHANY FLORES

KEEPTHEFAITH

I would never forget to save a spot for our green friend, Kermit! Ribbit!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on May 14, 2013, 07:33:50 PM

(http://cdn4.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-40.jpg)
Just say-the-word

(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/27/article-1340825524433-13CE5E70000005DC-857562_466x310.jpg)
and I'll leave Yummy-Fly-Island

(http://cdn6.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-42.jpg)
I'll bring vodka


(http://cdn6.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-25.jpg)
And we'll have a trip of a lifetime. Joran on the other hand........



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blue Moon on May 15, 2013, 09:10:57 AM

(http://cdn4.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-40.jpg)
Just say-the-word

(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/27/article-1340825524433-13CE5E70000005DC-857562_466x310.jpg)
and I'll leave Yummy-Fly-Island

(http://cdn6.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-42.jpg)
I'll bring vodka


(http://cdn6.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-25.jpg)
And we'll have a trip of a lifetime. Joran on the other hand........



Kermit, this is just hilarious!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I got a good laugh this morning out of this.  You are so creative.


KTF, I am so proud for you.  You have done good and will do even more good as time rolls on.  Congratulations.

Billb, so good to see you around again.

And, YES, we are still here for Natalee and Beth.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on May 15, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
Blue Moon,

So good to see you!

And bill is back in the saddle again.


 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 15, 2013, 09:46:17 PM

(http://cdn4.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-40.jpg)
Just say-the-word

(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/27/article-1340825524433-13CE5E70000005DC-857562_466x310.jpg)
and I'll leave Yummy-Fly-Island

(http://cdn6.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-42.jpg)
I'll bring vodka


(http://cdn6.kermit-on-tour.com/fiji-fly/kermit-fly-island-s-25.jpg)
And we'll have a trip of a lifetime. Joran on the other hand........



Froggy's on the Move!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Make sure there's room in that dingy for a Boop!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Yep.......... we're all here, just waiting for a day that somehow we all know will come, even if we don't know exactly what that day will hold. We are here for Natalee and Beth.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blue Moon on May 15, 2013, 11:30:35 PM
Blue Moon,

So good to see you!

And bill is back in the saddle again.


 ::monkeywine2::


 ::HelloKitty:: ::HelloKitty:: ::HelloKitty::  Hey, Kermit.  Good to see you also.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: billb's daughter on May 16, 2013, 01:41:08 AM
Thanks to all for the hello's.... ::boxjoran::
No sun screen Kermit? what are you thinking?
Blue Moon... I love your beer.....Thanks for saying Hi... ::HelloKitty::
Natalee and Beth are in our hearts......
A boat trip with you all.....priceless......


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 16, 2013, 01:26:50 PM
 ::HelloKitty::  KTF, congratulations for perservering in your education goal and much success in the future!

 ::HelloKitty::  Billb, good to see you back.  Keep posting and sharing your supportive posts for Natalee!

Keeping hope alive for Justice for Natalee...and Stephany!   ::justice2nj2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 16, 2013, 01:30:47 PM
http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2013/geen-spreekrecht-voor-joran-van-der-sloot/

Google translation

Today 17:32 PM
Netherlands, International
Not speak for Joran van der Sloot

Joran van der Sloot will not speak during the discussion of his appeal. The request was rejected by the Supreme Court in the Peruvian capital Lima. This is his lawyer Maximo Altez Thursday announced to our editors.

It is unusual that a convict will speak during the examination of the appeal, but it is not necessarily impossible, says Altez. Joran did according to his counsel took the floor to make that he regretted his act clearly. Now he does not get that opportunity, he will not be present at the session.

Altez will advocate on May 29 during the appeal for sentence. He wants Joran penalty is reduced to 15 years in prison.  ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on May 16, 2013, 03:35:29 PM
http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2013/geen-spreekrecht-voor-joran-van-der-sloot/

Google translation

Today 17:32 PM
Netherlands, International
Not speak for Joran van der Sloot

Joran van der Sloot will not speak during the discussion of his appeal. The request was rejected by the Supreme Court in the Peruvian capital Lima. This is his lawyer Maximo Altez Thursday announced to our editors.

It is unusual that a convict will speak during the examination of the appeal, but it is not necessarily impossible, says Altez. Joran did according to his counsel took the floor to make that he regretted his act clearly. Now he does not get that opportunity, he will not be present at the session.

Altez will advocate on May 29 during the appeal for sentence. He wants Joran penalty is reduced to 15 years in prison.  ::snipping3::



MAY 29th -

one day Natalee's coming home!




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 16, 2013, 04:11:34 PM
I don't know where to start, but I've spent the last couple of years working and going to school. I received my AAS in Political Science about a year ago, applied to the University of Washington, but was told that I needed to fulfill my World Language Requirement, as I fell short by a year. So, I finished up my World Language Requirement, and just today, I received my acceptance letter to the University of Washington. After spending so much time with the Monkey's discussing how Natalee Holloway wasn't afforded the opportunity to continue to touch lives, because of a MONSTER on the island of Aruba, I was again reminded we only get one go around. It is NEVER to late for those of us still blessed with this thing we call life, to make a change.

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO

GOD BLESS!!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 18, 2013, 03:51:30 PM
279 page document filed by the Defendants in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case on 5/15/13.  Here is the first page and the conclusion.  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/May152013Doc1_zps2b4751b6.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/May152013DocConclusion_zps4577f1d7.jpg)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 18, 2013, 07:53:15 PM
279 page document filed by the Defendants in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case on 5/15/13.  Here is the first page and the conclusion.  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/May152013Doc1_zps2b4751b6.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/May152013DocConclusion_zps4577f1d7.jpg)
I just hope it is indeed 2013 this time!!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 19, 2013, 01:08:11 AM
279 page document filed by the Defendants in the Kalpoe vs. Dr. Phil case on 5/15/13.  Here is the first page and the conclusion.  ::MonkeyCool::

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/May152013Doc1_zps2b4751b6.jpg)

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/May152013DocConclusion_zps4577f1d7.jpg)
I just hope it is indeed 2013 this time!!  ::MonkeyCool::
The way I read the conclusion,  Dr. Phil's attorneys are also asking for "equity" -- I assume this means they are asking for attorney fees and "damages" for the suit.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 19, 2013, 09:58:24 AM
Hi Wreck - I assume the same.  I really haven't had a chance yet to read all 279 pages but when I do and if there's anything else interesting to post about it I will.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 20, 2013, 01:17:45 AM
Thanks Klaas, and thanks to the anonymous monkey that purchases the documents too!   ::MonkeyKiss::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 20, 2013, 01:21:24 AM
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/274759/thumbs/r-DR-PHIL-MCGRAW-large570.jpg)

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRqxJwBEdb823yB2E_RYMgY8kdg1hOOTe7312B43li4Tdvtpk4w)

 
::MonkeyBike:: ::justice2nj2:: ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 20, 2013, 01:22:22 AM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

  ::justice2nj2::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 20, 2013, 11:12:01 PM
This is BIG news!! Where is everyone?? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 21, 2013, 12:24:07 AM
Wreck - I've been super busy at work and honestly haven't had a chance to read through the entire document.  Email me if you think there's something in particular I should post.  Hopefully tomorrow afternoon/evening I'll get a chance to read it all.  ::MonkeyCool::

Also, I just checked the courthouse docs to see if the Kalpoes have filed a response...nothing yet  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 21, 2013, 01:00:13 AM
Wreck - I've been super busy at work and honestly haven't had a chance to read through the entire document.  Email me if you think there's something in particular I should post.  Hopefully tomorrow afternoon/evening I'll get a chance to read it all.  ::MonkeyCool::

Also, I just checked the courthouse docs to see if the Kalpoes have filed a response...nothing yet  ::MonkeyCool::
I read the first 10 pages -- it pretty much covers everything we need to know about what the renewed call for summary judgement entails. I assume the other 269 pages are the detailed facts we have come to know so well for these so many years. From what I deduce -- the acting judge at the time of the complete exoneration of Jamie Skeeters (and his estate) "without prejudice" -- examined the facts and determined there was no actionable offense by Skeeters. Dr. Phil's team asserts once Skeeters was cleared -- so were they. The Kalpoes really only accused Skeeters of any wrong-doing in the first place!! "Judge See" who took over the case to rule on the original "Summary Judgement" request by the the defendants is seriously being questioned by the defendants now. (By the way, Judge See has already been kicked off the case -- so all of this is being weighed by a new judge!)

I know, I know, I know .......... it is so so convoluted after so many years and about 4 different judges!!!!! This case should have never made it past the first 6 months!! Our legal system is in place to make attorneys money -- very sad really!!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 21, 2013, 01:23:31 AM
Wreck - I've been super busy at work and honestly haven't had a chance to read through the entire document.  Email me if you think there's something in particular I should post.  Hopefully tomorrow afternoon/evening I'll get a chance to read it all.  ::MonkeyCool::

Also, I just checked the courthouse docs to see if the Kalpoes have filed a response...nothing yet  ::MonkeyCool::
I read the first 10 pages -- it pretty much covers everything we need to know about what the renewed call for summary judgement entails. I assume the other 269 pages are the detailed facts we have come to know so well for these so many years. From what I deduce -- the acting judge at the time of the complete exoneration of Jamie Skeeters (and his estate) "without prejudice" -- examined the facts and determined there was no actionable offense by Skeeters. Dr. Phil's team asserts once Skeeters was cleared -- so were they. The Kalpoes really only accused Skeeters of any wrong-doing in the first place!! "Judge See" who took over the case to rule on the original "Summary Judgement" request by the the defendants is seriously being questioned by the defendants now. (By the way, Judge See has already been kicked off the case -- so all of this is being weighed by a new judge!)

I know, I know, I know .......... it is so so convoluted after so many years and about 4 different judges!!!!! This case should have never made it past the first 6 months!! Our legal system is in place to make attorneys money -- very sad really!!


The dismissals for the Skeeters Estate were "with prejudice" in other words no come backs for the Kalpoops.   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyGavel::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice_(legal_procedure)

 ::snipping3::

Civil law [edit]

Within legal civil procedure, prejudice is a loss or injury, and refers specifically to a formal determination against a claimed legal right or cause of action.[1] Thus, in a civil case, dismissal without prejudice is a dismissal that allows for re-filing of the case in the future. The present action is dismissed but the possibility remains open that the plaintiff may file another suit on the same claim. The inverse phrase is dismissal with prejudice, in which the plaintiff is barred from filing another case on the same claim. Dismissal with prejudice is a final judgment and the case becomes res judicata on the claims that were or could have been brought in it; dismissal without prejudice is not.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 21, 2013, 01:32:05 AM
This is BIG news!! Where is everyone?? ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::HelloKitty:: I'm here wreck, but I'm waiting for the ruling to get too excited about it.

Ya know what I mean? 

It has gone on this long.  WHY?   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 21, 2013, 01:47:33 AM
Wreck - I've been super busy at work and honestly haven't had a chance to read through the entire document.  Email me if you think there's something in particular I should post.  Hopefully tomorrow afternoon/evening I'll get a chance to read it all.  ::MonkeyCool::

Also, I just checked the courthouse docs to see if the Kalpoes have filed a response...nothing yet  ::MonkeyCool::
I read the first 10 pages -- it pretty much covers everything we need to know about what the renewed call for summary judgement entails. I assume the other 269 pages are the detailed facts we have come to know so well for these so many years. From what I deduce -- the acting judge at the time of the complete exoneration of Jamie Skeeters (and his estate) "without prejudice" -- examined the facts and determined there was no actionable offense by Skeeters. Dr. Phil's team asserts once Skeeters was cleared -- so were they. The Kalpoes really only accused Skeeters of any wrong-doing in the first place!! "Judge See" who took over the case to rule on the original "Summary Judgement" request by the the defendants is seriously being questioned by the defendants now. (By the way, Judge See has already been kicked off the case -- so all of this is being weighed by a new judge!)

I know, I know, I know .......... it is so so convoluted after so many years and about 4 different judges!!!!! This case should have never made it past the first 6 months!! Our legal system is in place to make attorneys money -- very sad really!!


The dismissals for the Skeeters Estate were "with prejudice" in other words no come backs for the Kalpoops.   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyGavel::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice_(legal_procedure)

 ::snipping3::

Civil law [edit]

Within legal civil procedure, prejudice is a loss or injury, and refers specifically to a formal determination against a claimed legal right or cause of action.[1] Thus, in a civil case, dismissal without prejudice is a dismissal that allows for re-filing of the case in the future. The present action is dismissed but the possibility remains open that the plaintiff may file another suit on the same claim. The inverse phrase is dismissal with prejudice, in which the plaintiff is barred from filing another case on the same claim. Dismissal with prejudice is a final judgment and the case becomes res judicata on the claims that were or could have been brought in it; dismissal without prejudice is not.

Absolutely correct -- "WITH prejudice" --- always tricky to me!! That is what I meant to say (meaning absolute -can't be brought up again)


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 21, 2013, 01:51:44 AM
This is BIG news!! Where is everyone?? ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::HelloKitty:: I'm here wreck, but I'm waiting for the ruling to get too excited about it.

Ya know what I mean? 

It has gone on this long.  WHY?   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


That is what you get when one side milks the system for so many years.................. you get 5 different judges that don't know what happened for the previous 6 years. Don't hit me Klaas ................ but it also California! I don't think this would have happened in Texas! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on May 21, 2013, 12:27:05 PM
This is BIG news!! Where is everyone?? ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::HelloKitty:: I'm here wreck, but I'm waiting for the ruling to get too excited about it.

Ya know what I mean? 

It has gone on this long.  WHY?   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


That is what you get when one side milks the system for so many years.................. you get 5 different judges that don't know what happened for the previous 6 years. Don't hit me Klaas ................ but it also California! I don't think this would have happened in Texas! ::MonkeyCool::


the way I read the document was the attorney's have found another argument to estop the lawsuit from moving forward.

Lawsuits can go on for years and years, so can almost any OSC............. the
courts subject the people to their system and allow attorney's to make a lot of money. Each and every time a hearing is continued - bank for the attorney's. It's all about money.

waiting to hear from kalpoes attorney's response or non-response.





Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 21, 2013, 04:47:35 PM
This is BIG news!! Where is everyone?? ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::HelloKitty:: I'm here wreck, but I'm waiting for the ruling to get too excited about it.

Ya know what I mean? 

It has gone on this long.  WHY?   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


That is what you get when one side milks the system for so many years.................. you get 5 different judges that don't know what happened for the previous 6 years. Don't hit me Klaas ................ but it also California! I don't think this would have happened in Texas! ::MonkeyCool::


the way I read the document was the attorney's have found another argument to estop the lawsuit from moving forward.

Lawsuits can go on for years and years, so can almost any OSC............. the
courts subject the people to their system and allow attorney's to make a lot of money. Each and every time a hearing is continued - bank for the attorney's. It's all about money.

waiting to hear from kalpoes attorney's response or non-response.





 :smt069



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 22, 2013, 04:05:24 PM
Just a Peruvian article about the upcoming appeal hearing by Supreme Court on May 29.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2013-05-22-corte-suprema-evaluara-pedido-de-anulacion-de-condena-a-van-der-sloot-noticia_597092.html

Google translation

Supreme Court order canceling evaluate sentence Van der Sloot
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 | 2:00 pm

The permanent criminal division of the Supreme Court on Wednesday evaluated May 29 on the annulment of the sentence to 28 years in prison Dutch citizen, Joran van der Sloot for the murder of the young Peruvian Stephany Flores in May 2010 .

The appeal filed by the defense asked to set aside the sentence imposed for criminal defendants third room in jail for the crimes of homicide and simple theft.

Also need to establish whether or not to ratify the payment of 200,000 soles civil repair the direct heirs of the deceased, as determined in the sentence.

The Chief Prosecutor Peter Chavarry, asked to confirm the sentence imposed on Van der Sloot in its entirety,  ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on May 22, 2013, 08:19:39 PM
Just a Peruvian article about the upcoming appeal hearing by Supreme Court on May 29.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2013-05-22-corte-suprema-evaluara-pedido-de-anulacion-de-condena-a-van-der-sloot-noticia_597092.html

Google translation

Supreme Court order canceling evaluate sentence Van der Sloot
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 | 2:00 pm

The permanent criminal division of the Supreme Court on Wednesday evaluated May 29 on the annulment of the sentence to 28 years in prison Dutch citizen, Joran van der Sloot for the murder of the young Peruvian Stephany Flores in May 2010 .

The appeal filed by the defense asked to set aside the sentence imposed for criminal defendants third room in jail for the crimes of homicide and simple theft.

Also need to establish whether or not to ratify the payment of 200,000 soles civil repair the direct heirs of the deceased, as determined in the sentence.

The Chief Prosecutor Peter Chavarry, asked to confirm the sentence imposed on Van der Sloot in its entirety,  ::snipping3::




SEVEN more days until judgement once again for JORAN'IE POO



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 25, 2013, 12:24:20 AM
Here we go again...

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/960/Buitenland/article/detail/1639590/2013/05/25/Joran-van-der-Sloot-trouwt-binnen-twee-weken.dhtml

Google translation

Last Updated: Friday at 21:49
"Joran married on 15 days'

It seems that Joran van der Sloot in about 15 days marries his fiancée Peruvian Leidy Figueroa out. This has Joran lawyer Maximo Altez informed our editors.

"Joran is currently busy with the preparations," said the counselor. Because the Dutchman serving a prison sentence in the maximum security prison Piedras Gordas in the Peruvian capital Lima has to be regulated much. There is still some paperwork to be completed before he can actually marry. He is expected within two weeks permission for the wedding in prison will take place.

"Contrary to what the tabloids say the wedding has nothing to do with a possible extradition to the United States. The two marry for love. Whether he is or is not married to a Peruvian, it does not change his situation, "let Altez know.

Joran van der Sloot is in Peru a sentence of 28 years for the murder of Stephany Flores. On May 29 his appeal.  ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Red on May 25, 2013, 03:20:49 PM
GOOD GRIEF … Wedding Bells for Joran Van der Sloot, To Be Married in Two Weeks While Serving for Murder of Stephany Flores at Piedras Gordas Prison … Unlucky Bride Leidy Figueroa

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/05/25/good-grief-wedding-bells-for-joran-van-der-sloot-to-be-married-in-two-weeks-while-serving-for-murder-of-stephany-flores-at-piedras-gordas-prison-unlucky-bride-leidy-figueroa/

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As reported at Ad.nl, Joran Van der Sloot is to be married within two weeks. Yes that Joran Van der Sloot who is currently serving 28 years in Piedras Gordas  prison in Peru for the murder of Stephany Flores and the same "Sporter" who should have already been in prison for the death and disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba. The unlucky or insane to be bride is reports as Leidy Figueroa. I am sure her parents are so proud. But of course Joran Van der Sloot is marrying out of love. NOT!!! So why would Joran Van der Sloot marry a Peruvian woman? It can't be for the conjugal visits, one does not have to be married to do such. Could it be to become a Peruvian citizen through marriage? However, I am not sure why this would matter for Van der Sloot seeing that both Peru and the Netherlands have extradition treaties with the United States. At some point Van der Sloot is going to be extradited to the United States and an Alabama courtroom to face extortion charges he perpetrate against Beth Holloway in the death of her daughter, Natalee Holloway.

We have heard these rumors before, looks like this time it might just be true. Where is the couple registered at, Murderers 'R Us?


Of course the timing of this has nothing to do with the fact that Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teen from Mountainbrook, went missing in Aruba on May 30, 2005 and yet another way to throw salt into the wound of Beth and Dave.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 25, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/Binnenland/article/detail/3447289/2013/05/25/Joran-van-der-Sloot-hoopt-op-20-jaar.dhtml

Google translation

Joran van der Sloot is hoping for 20 years
05/25/13, 19:21 - Source: Reuters

Joran van der Sloot, who is stuck in Peru for the murder of Stephany Flores, hopes that his sentence reduced to 20 years. That said his lawyer Máximo Altez request against the ANP. He will not be present at the examination of his appeal, which is Wednesday. .

Van der Sloot was early last year sentenced to 28 years in prison and a compensation of 50,000 euros. He submitted himself to the charge of murder followed by Flores hoping to get. Spoil a substantial reduction of sentence The judge took only two years of the required 30 year. A big disappointment for Van der Sloot.

Repentance
He now hopes to get yet because he has repented, remission in the appeal he wrote early April to the ANP. Van der Sloot did not regret located on the indictment to have subject. That it was in fact murder and that he has slain Stephany Flores in a fit of anger, according to him difficult to prove.

As a punishment he has served in Peru him waiting extradition to the United States. There he prosecuted for extortion of the mother of Natalee Holloway. He would be $ 250,000 (almost 200,000 euros) have agreed in exchange for information where the remains of Natalee are.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 25, 2013, 10:08:59 PM
To get this straight........ Joran wants his sentence reduced from 28 years to 20 years and hopes he won't be extradited to the U.S. since he would be married to Peruvian citizen?!?!?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 26, 2013, 02:16:48 AM
To get this straight........ Joran wants his sentence reduced from 28 years to 20 years and hopes he won't be extradited to the U.S. since he would be married to Peruvian citizen?!?!?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yeah, that's about right.  ::MonkeyDevil::  He's special...not!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 27, 2013, 02:23:47 AM
http://www.nd.nl/artikelen/2013/mei/27/-van-der-sloot-heeft-weinig-kans-op-lagere-staf

Google translation

Van der Sloot has little chance of lower staff '
Dutch Newspaper (press release) -1 hour ago
posted:  27/05/2013 - 6:30
last changed:  27/05/2013 - 6:30

Joran van der Sloot has little chance of a lower staff as his defense still wants to show that the Dutchman Stephany Flores without premeditation brought to life. So says the Peruvian legal expert Giovanna Gismondi. Wednesday starts the higher appeal case of Van der Sloot.

Van der Sloot is in Peru a prison sentence of 28 years for the murder of Flores in May 2010. In the first instance, Van der Sloot resigned himself to the charge of murder and robbery to get. A lower penalty He also showed remorse for his actions. However, the court ruling was only two years less than the requirement of justice that Van der Sloot wanted for thirty years behind bars.

The Dutchman thinks he deserves a lower staff on a whim because he committed the murder. According to his lawyer Máximo Altez are also made mistakes during the preliminary investigation. "Not only the burden of the prosecution, but also the influence of the media play a role in this case. The appeal may therefore be denied, "said Gismondi.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: billb's daughter on May 28, 2013, 01:25:26 AM
GOOD GRIEF … Wedding Bells for Joran Van der Sloot, To Be Married in Two Weeks While Serving for Murder of Stephany Flores at Piedras Gordas Prison … Unlucky Bride Leidy Figueroa

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/05/25/good-grief-wedding-bells-for-joran-van-der-sloot-to-be-married-in-two-weeks-while-serving-for-murder-of-stephany-flores-at-piedras-gordas-prison-unlucky-bride-leidy-figueroa/

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As reported at Ad.nl, Joran Van der Sloot is to be married within two weeks. Yes that Joran Van der Sloot who is currently serving 28 years in Piedras Gordas  prison in Peru for the murder of Stephany Flores and the same "Sporter" who should have already been in prison for the death and disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba. The unlucky or insane to be bride is reports as Leidy Figueroa. I am sure her parents are so proud. But of course Joran Van der Sloot is marrying out of love. NOT!!! So why would Joran Van der Sloot marry a Peruvian woman? It can't be for the conjugal visits, one does not have to be married to do such. Could it be to become a Peruvian citizen through marriage? However, I am not sure why this would matter for Van der Sloot seeing that both Peru and the Netherlands have extradition treaties with the United States. At some point Van der Sloot is going to be extradited to the United States and an Alabama courtroom to face extortion charges he perpetrate against Beth Holloway in the death of her daughter, Natalee Holloway.

We have heard these rumors before, looks like this time it might just be true. Where is the couple registered at, Murderers 'R Us?


Of course the timing of this has nothing to do with the fact that Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teen from Mountainbrook, went missing in Aruba on May 30, 2005 and yet another way to throw salt into the wound of Beth and Dave.

urine is rotting in hell every day...whatever he does between now and his demise doesn't matter.....Hell is for eternity..... ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::
I suspect Beth and Dave aren't concerned with urine anymore......


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2013, 06:01:47 PM

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/9ebd82a1-7b04-44e7-93ab-0b16f1554c91_zps771e086e.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_ArubaLastHug.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!   ::justice2nj2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 28, 2013, 06:07:18 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Stephany%20Flores/machpicchusteph.jpg)

Justice for Stephany!

 ::justice2nj2::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 29, 2013, 11:44:16 AM
http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/3487168/zitting-van-sloot-al-halfuur-voorbij.html

Google translation

published: Last update:
May 29, 2013 17:17
May 29, 2013 17:16
Sitting der Sloot after thirty minutes past

The hearing in the appeal of Joran van der Sloot that Wednesday was launched in Lima, has lasted a half hour. More time had the judges not necessary for the story of the lawyer for Van der Sloot.

Within thirty days does the Supreme Court ruling.

Van der Sloot was not present. His lawyer Maximo Altez told the five judges that his client deserves a lower staff, partly because in the first instance he has accepted the indictment and did not speak Spanish well at the time of his first confession

"He thinks the punishment is too high," Altez told the court.  ::snipping3::

Prior to the hearing, counsel for the Dutchman let slip that he thinks it is very difficult to get a lower sentence for Van der Sloot to enforce. "All arguments are actually already put forward and he has known," he said.

The lawyer of the family of the murdered Stephany Flores, Edward Alvarez, sitting in the audience. "I'm here to listen," he said. At the hearing a dozen Peruvian journalists were present. "It is still alive in Peru. Everything that happens with Joran is new here," said one of them.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 29, 2013, 11:59:45 AM
http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2013/05/29/hoger-beroep-joran-van-der-sloot-van-start-familie-flores-niet-aanwezig/

Google translation

May 29, 2013, 09:19
Appeal Van der Sloot start - Flores family not present

The higher appeal case of Joran van der Sloot starts today at the Supreme Court in Lima, Peru. The Dutchman since January last year a 28-year prison sentence for the murder of Stephany Flores hopes for substantial sentence. The family of the murdered Stephany Flores is not present. Their lawyer says to news agency Novum that it is "too heavy" for the family.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 29, 2013, 01:18:26 PM
http://www.rpp.com.pe/2013-05-29-abogado-de-van-der-sloot-opina-que-derechos-de-holandes-fueron-atentados-noticia_599241.html

Google translation

Van der Sloot Lawyer believes that Dutch rights were attacks
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 | 11:45 a.m.

Maximum Highness, lawyer of Dutch national Joran van der Sloot, said it has undermined the rights of his client during the process that was followed by the murder of the young Peruvian Stephany Flores.

"It's obvious. Was brought to Peru in a totally irregular. Was expelled, was not extradited. Never put a lawyer of his choice, never had a translator," he told RPP the lawyer.

"He simply acquiesced, accepted everything and was sentenced. Believe that through this attitude that had accounts for a substantial reduction (of the sentence)," he added.

As is known, the Permanent Criminal Chamber of the Supreme Court has evaluated the ratification or not the sentence of 28 years imprisonment imposed on the Dutch citizen.

Highness considered that the members of this court are "very upright men", who will issue a "statement according to corresponding". "I know you are not going to let influenced by media pressure," he said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 29, 2013, 01:31:43 PM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/3449265/2013/05/29/Advocaat-Joran-van-der-Sloot-rekent-niet-op-verlaging-straf.dhtml

Google translation

Lawyer Joran van der Sloot does not rely on reducing punishment
Keep

29-5-13 - 18:34 Source: Reuters, RTL Boulevard

Update The judges in Peru may do in a week verdict in the appeal of Joran van der Sloot. That has Máximo Altez, the lawyer of the Dutchman, Wednesday told the ANP. The Supreme Court in Lima Wednesday treated the case of Van der Sloot, who brought the 21-year-old Peruvian Stephany Flores Ramirez to life in 2010.

As a rule, does the court ruling only about 30 days. Altez thinks the ruling will be because of the huge media interest that exists for the matter quickly.

The lawyer does not expect a reduction of the sentence. Van der Sloot (26) was early last year a prison sentence of 28 years imprisonment and a fine of the equivalent of about 50,000 euros. Altez believes that 20 years would be a fair punishment. "But the pressure of the media is great. Joran is demonized in the press. He killed a Peruvian girl. That weighs heavily, "said Altez.

The appeal filed Wednesday morning local time in the Peruvian capital. Altez put in 5 minutes explains why he thinks the punishment should be lower. Van der Sloot has confessed and repented sincerely, said the lawyer.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 29, 2013, 09:27:44 PM
http://www.que.es/ultimas-noticias/sucesos/201305292132-defensa-joran-sloot-presenta-alegatos-efe.html

Google translation:

The defense of Joran Van der Sloot presents arguments for the invalidity of his conviction

The defense of Joran Van der Sloot, who murdered in 2010 at the Peruvian Stephany Flores, today presented oral arguments to support the request for annulment of his sentence of 28 years in prison before the Permanent Criminal Chamber of the Supreme Court.

Lima, Reuters    May 29, 2013
 
The lawyer for Van der Sloot, Maximum Highness, went without his client to present an oral report in which it requested the annulment of the judgment at first instance by the crimes of homicide and simple theft.

Highness requested the measure, arguing that Van der Sloot admitted the crime and accepted a legal figure foregone conclusion and sincere confession, to streamline the judicial process, according to a statement from the Supreme Court.

Permanent Criminal Chamber is chaired by Javier Villa Stein, and also consists of Joshua Pariona Pastrana, Prince Hugo Trujillo, José Neyra Flores and Francisco Rozas Escalante, who after hearing the allegations left the cause to vote.

The court will issue its ruling within a month, the deadline set by law.

At the end of the hearing, Highness told Radio Programas del Peru (RPP) has also asked that the sentence be reduced Van der Sloot to 20 years, adding that his client "is sorry".

Van der Sloot was sentenced on January 13, 2012 by the Third Criminal Court for Prison Inmates in 28 years imprisonment and civil damages of 200,000 soles ($ 74,906), 48 hours after confessing to the crime.

Days after learning of the sentence, the defense of Van der Sloot asked for the annulment of the sentence.

 ::snipping3::

The Flores murder case had extensive media coverage because Van der Sloot, 25, was also investigated for the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, who was last seen with him in Aruba in 2005.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 29, 2013, 09:46:08 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://elcomercio.pe/actualidad/1582680/noticia-caso-van-der-sloot-sala-dejo-al-voto-pedido-nulidad-sentencia

Google translation:

WEDNESDAY MAY 29, 2013 15:30

Van der Sloot Case: room left to vote request for annulment of the judgment

The Dutch purge sentence of 28 years in prison in the prison Piedras Gordas of Ancon. His lawyer Highness Maximum sustained application today

The Permanent Criminal Chamber of the Supreme Court stopped the vote the request for annulment brought by the defense of Joran van der Sloot against the Dutch sentence imposed for the murder of the young Stephany Flores Ramirez .

 ::snipping3::

During the hearing, counsel for Van der Sloot, Maximum Highness Navarro , sustained the motion to vacate filed arguing that his client admitted the crime and accepted a legal figure foregone conclusion. In his view, should have been sentenced to a smaller number of years.

"They put a fake lawyer was not his choice, he never got an interpreter (...) never made the reconstruction of events, however, he acquiesced to the indictment (...) He facilitated the course of justice "said Highness reporters after completion diligence.

WAITING TO MARRY
Joran, who is imprisoned in the prison Piedras Gordas of Ancon, expects the National Penitentiary Institute (INPE) given permission to marry in prison with a young woman. Highness told the Associated Press that this could happen in the next 15 days.

"This is a person who has changed (...) He wants to rebuild his life, wants to be a new person, and wants the Supreme Court Peru given a chance," said the lawyer.

The Dutch national is also the prime suspect in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway in Aruba occurred in May 2005. The woman's body was never found.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 29, 2013, 10:06:12 PM
http://www.rpp.com.pe/2013-05-29-abogado-de-van-der-sloot-opina-que-derechos-de-holandes-fueron-atentados-noticia_599241.html

Google translation:

Van der Sloot Lawyer believes that Dutch rights were attacks
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 | 11:45 a.m.

 ::snipping3::

2 Comments

Dennis Sanchez says:
Today, 1:29 pm
That? forbade him to this miserable death? the only thing is entitled to death!

Walter Montero says:
Today, 24:09
Where are the rights of the people killed by the psychopath

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 29, 2013, 10:07:40 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::   :roll:


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: SuzieQ on May 29, 2013, 10:54:58 PM
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/05/29/convicted-killer-joran-van-de-sloot-plans-to-wed-in-peru-prison/

Joran van der Sloot, who became known around the world for the murder of Stephany Flores in Peru and for being arrested twice, but never charged, in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway in Aruba, has wedding plans.

Claiming he is a changed man, he is asking to have his sentence reduced from to 28 to 20 years.

According to his lawyer, Maximo Altez, the Dutch man seeks to rebuild his life by marrying in prison, for which he is still awaiting the permission of the prison authorities.
 ::snipping3::

Van der Sloot is a self-described liar, having repeatedly confessed to killing Holloway, who disappeared in 2005, and later retracting the confessions. He is the last person known to have seen her alive.
 ::snipping3:: ::boxjoran::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 29, 2013, 11:34:19 PM
To be "fair" when felons admit to a crime and ask for an "appeal" to their sentence .............. they should also have to risk getting their original sentence increased!!  ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 30, 2013, 12:03:47 AM
To be "fair" when felons admit to a crime and ask for an "appeal" to their sentence .............. they should also have to risk getting their original sentence increased!!  ::CowboySmiley::

ITA, and was thinking the same thing when I posted earlier!   ::CowboySmiley::

If that was a possibility, we wouldn't be seeing any of this nonsense!

They want to make it sound now like Joran's "sincere confession" (NOT) saved a lengthy trial...facilitation of justice...blah blah blah, what it saved was his sorry azz a possible LIFE sentence that he deserves and he knows it!

He actually deserves worse  ::MonkeyHang::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

JMO



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 30, 2013, 12:21:55 AM
To be "fair" when felons admit to a crime and ask for an "appeal" to their sentence .............. they should also have to risk getting their original sentence increased!!  ::CowboySmiley::

ITA, and was thinking the same thing when I posted earlier!   ::CowboySmiley::

If that was a possibility, we wouldn't be seeing any of this nonsense!

They want to make it sound now like Joran's "sincere confession" (NOT) saved a lengthy trial...facilitation of justice...blah blah blah, what it saved was his sorry azz a possible LIFE sentence that he deserves and he knows it!

He actually deserves worse  ::MonkeyHang::



 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::

JMO





The original ruling that Joran could not be extradited to the USA until his original 28 year sentence was fulfilled in Peru was supposedly "to be confirmed" by Peru's Supreme Court. I don't think we ever heard anymore on this. Now that the "appeal" is under the Supreme Court's review .... I wonder if this will now be confirmed or amended???? I HOPE so!! ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 30, 2013, 01:02:18 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  Wreck

The Peruvian Supreme Court approved the extradition after he served his sentence.  The final step is for the justice minister and Cabinet to endorse it.  They are probably waiting for the results of the final appeal.  imo

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/national_world&id=8687996
Peru court: Dutchman's extradition after sentence
Monday, June 04, 2012


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 30, 2013, 04:18:16 PM
::HelloKitty::  Wreck

The Peruvian Supreme Court approved the extradition after he served his sentence.  The final step is for the justice minister and Cabinet to endorse it.  They are probably waiting for the results of the final appeal.  imo

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/national_world&id=8687996
Peru court: Dutchman's extradition after sentence
Monday, June 04, 2012

gotcha .... you are correct!  ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Anna on May 30, 2013, 05:08:06 PM
Well, here's hoping Dr. Phil is finally successful in getting the Kalpos off his back.  They thought it was going to be soooo easy and probably an out of court settlement for millions and so forth.  They will grow old at this rate before there is ever even a ruling.  AHATA must be kicking themselves for ever starting this.

So Joran may be actually getting married this time? 

Since he is repentant and all that, he'll be eager to tell Beth Holloway the truth about what happened to her daughter, right?  Didn't he promise to write her a letter when she went to Peru to see him in prison? 

Be a man, Joran.  PROVE you're repentant and come clean on Natalee as well. 

It's OK with me if he gets to Alabama Federal Court sooner rather than later.  Extortion carries a sentence just as long as murder in Peru.  He's still a long long way from any kind of freedom and I like to think about the kind of life he would have in an Alabama prison anyway just as much as I do where he is now.

I'm still here but don't log in very often as don't have anything to add.  And I do believe in redemption but as I said, actions speak louder than words and the first thing a redeemed Joran would do is contact Beth with any and all information he has. 


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 30, 2013, 09:14:33 PM
Well, here's hoping Dr. Phil is finally successful in getting the Kalpos off his back.  They thought it was going to be soooo easy and probably an out of court settlement for millions and so forth.  They will grow old at this rate before there is ever even a ruling.  AHATA must be kicking themselves for ever starting this.

So Joran may be actually getting married this time? 

Since he is repentant and all that, he'll be eager to tell Beth Holloway the truth about what happened to her daughter, right?  Didn't he promise to write her a letter when she went to Peru to see him in prison? 

Be a man, Joran.  PROVE you're repentant and come clean on Natalee as well. 

It's OK with me if he gets to Alabama Federal Court sooner rather than later.  Extortion carries a sentence just as long as murder in Peru.  He's still a long long way from any kind of freedom and I like to think about the kind of life he would have in an Alabama prison anyway just as much as I do where he is now.

I'm still here but don't log in very often as don't have anything to add.  And I do believe in redemption but as I said, actions speak louder than words and the first thing a redeemed Joran would do is contact Beth with any and all information he has. 

 ::HelloKitty::

IMO

He's not repentant, or even sorry for what he's done, Anna.  I don't think he really even knows those emotions at all, they're not in him.  He can't even ACT that way convincingly!  The signs of deception are always there.

Remember the trial for Stephany's murder...that was his chance, it might have even gained him something...less time...he failed miserably.  He knew full well he would be convicted and he still used his appearances in court to show disrespect to the judges and the process. 

Even his later written apology to Stephany's family was discredited through his handwriting iirc. 

His only regret is that he got caught and prosecuted this time.

Maybe he really is getting married (this time), but I don't believe it.  And even if he is, so what?  I mean really.  We know it can't be the regular met, dated, fell in love kind of marriage.  So there has to be something in it for Joran.  From my understanding he doesn't need to be married to have conjugal visits with a woman in prison.  Remember, some still say he's already the dad of a child that was conceived in prison (I don't believe that either).  Some things I've read say only family can visit so maybe if he's married the unlucky bride would be allowed to visit more often?  Maybe that's it?  If he gains Peruvian nationality because of the marriage, what good will that be?  It's not going to keep him from eventually coming to Alabama to face charges.  Maybe it could get him general population?  Wouldn't that be nice?!  For all we know, Joran may have had many marriages among the inmates since he's been in prison where he belongs.  Whether by choice, or for protection, for cigarettes, or a phone call!  Maybe I'm wrong but I think the latest proclamations of an upcoming wedding were just to have one basis to try to make the monster appear semi normal in the appeal.  If I'm right, it's sad that's the best they can do while dragging the same girl through the mud all over again.  If I'm wrong, it's sad that this girl would attach the stigma of being married to that monster to herself and her child.  I doubt that the hatred of Joran has died down much at all in Peru, so how would she be treated by those who know when she's out in public?  Will they throw rotten veggies at her too?  Since the first false reports of Joran getting married I've thought they were just his way (or that of others) to take one more shot at his victim's families....especially Beth.  Sad, if that's the best they can do.  Joran can get married all he wants.  It will never be a marriage like Natalee or Stephany should have had.  There's simply no comparison imo.  It's not like he's going to live happily ever after.  He's a monster, he's where he belongs; and that's not going to change.


 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::justice2nj2::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on May 30, 2013, 09:58:04 PM
Just a few of the recent tweets I've seen about Natalee, there have been so many.  I've read others about some currently watching the Lifetime movies, to warning their friends about Aruba, or just to always remember the buddy system and stay safe.

She is remembered.   ::MonkeyHeart:: ::MonkeyAngel::

https://twitter.com/lexeesielewicz/statuses/340270987583053824 (https://twitter.com/lexeesielewicz/statuses/340270987583053824)

Lexee ⚓
‏@lexeesielewicz

Wow 8 years since Natalee Holloway's disappearance. My prayers go out to Natalee's family tonight. Especially her mother, Beth Holloway.
 
5:58 PM - 30 May 13

https://twitter.com/HistoryForToday/statuses/340256820067180545 (https://twitter.com/HistoryForToday/statuses/340256820067180545)
 
On This Day
‏@HistoryForToday

On May 30, 2005, 18-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared after leaving a bar in Aruba with Joran van der Sloot. http://j.mp/c30Dhg

5:02 PM - 30 May 13

https://twitter.com/ChipFaust/statuses/340200637683863553 (https://twitter.com/ChipFaust/statuses/340200637683863553)

 Follow
 
Chip Faust
‏@ChipFaust

ICYMI today is the anniversary of Natalee Holloway's disappearance in Aruba in 2005.
 
1:18 PM - 30 May 13

https://twitter.com/MAW_831/statuses/340148951548297216 (https://twitter.com/MAW_831/statuses/340148951548297216)

Mary Alice Wilson
‏@MAW_831

Today is 8 years since Natalee Holloway went missing in Aruba. Prayers for that family today as they continue to search for their closure.
 
9:53 AM - 30 May 13

https://twitter.com/WorldHistory101/status/340060843569979392 (https://twitter.com/WorldHistory101/status/340060843569979392)

World History 101
‏@WorldHistory101

On May 30, 2005, 18-year-old Natalee Holloway disappeared after leaving a bar in Aruba with Joran van der Sloot. http://j.mp/c30Dhg

4:03ETS AM - 30 May 13


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2013, 11:12:25 PM
Eight years - We will never forget!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on May 30, 2013, 11:50:15 PM
Eight years - We will never forget!

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VERY WELL DONE!!! Let's not forget it is the anniversary of Stephany's murder as well!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 31, 2013, 01:17:09 AM
http://www.nu.nl/buitenland/3488547/joran-van-sloot-mag-nog-niet-trouwen.html

Google translation

published:      May 31, 2013 06:25
Last update:  May 31, 2013 06:25
Joran van der Sloot may not marry

Joran van der Sloot can not marry his Peruvian girlfriend. He does not meet the conditions.

That says a spokesman for the Peruvian prison authority INPE. Van der Sloot's lawyer had previously know that the Dutchman will soon enter into marriage.

According to the spokeswoman Wednesday she has been self to the Piedras Gordas prison to inquire. It appeared that the 25-year-old Dutchman has indeed made ​​to marry a request but that he has not yet returned to the prison authorities. Necessary documents

If this has happened, Van der Sloot could marry, the spokesman said. In Peru's prisons, a civil and religious marriage are closed. Also, it is possible to individually or with a plurality of sets of at the same time to get married. It is not clear what marriage Van der Sloot will.

Van der Sloot wants to marry his 23 year old girlfriend Leidy Figueroa who he met when he was trapped there. In the Miguel Castro Castro Prison They came there regularly visit a detained relative. According to lawyer Máximo Altez visit Figueroa Van der Sloot now every week at Piedras Gordas and manages include the finances.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on May 31, 2013, 01:45:00 AM
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/dutch-killer-to-marry-in-peru-prison/story-fn3dxix6-1226654616280

Dutch killer to marry in Peru prison   
From:  AAP 
May 31, 2013 3:25PM

DUTCH convicted killer Joran Van der Sloot, serving a 28-year sentence in Peru for murdering a young Peruvian woman, will tie the knot in prison next month, his lawyer says. 
 
Lawyer Maximo Altez said an official from the northern district of Ancon, where Van der Sloot is in custody, would perform the civil wedding ceremony at the Piedras Gordas maximum security prison outside Lima.

The lawyer on Thursday provided scant information about the bride-to-be however, other than to say that she is Peruvian.

"We just hope the National Penitentiary Institute (INPE) will grant us permission," said the lawyer, adding that he would be the best man and the only guest invited to the ceremony.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Blonde on May 31, 2013, 05:57:14 PM
Natalee Holloway Murder Suspect to Marry in Peru Prison
By ABC News | ABC News Blogs – 2 hours 20 minutes ago
Joran der Sloot, in a Peruvian prison for the murder of a woman
, is going to marry his girlfriend Leydi Figueroa Uceda sometime in June, according to Maximo Altez, van der Sloot's lawyer.
The couple have known each other since early 2011 when Figueroa was visiting someone else at the Castro Castro Prison where van der Sloot was then being held awaiting trial. Since then van der Sloot, 26, has been convicted of the murder of Peruvian woman Stephany Flores and sentenced to 28 years. An appeal of that sentence on technical grounds is currently being heard by Peru's Supreme Court.
Altez told ABC News that he is awaiting confirmation from the prison authorities for the ceremony to be held inside the Piedras Gordas prison where van der Sloot is currently incarcerated. Rumors spread a year ago that a child that Leydi gave birth to was fathered by van der Sloot, which Altez says is untrue. ::snipping3::
Joran's whole attitude has changed since he met Leydi," said Altez. "He was moping and bad humored all the time, but now he is more hopeful. He wants to get married and reorganize his life. He sees himself as a changed person." ::MonkeyDevil::
http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/natalee-holloway-murder-suspect-marry-peru-prison-184419111.html


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: cadillac on May 31, 2013, 07:03:16 PM
He wants to "reorganize his life."???

Hey y'all - when he gets to Birmingham, his life is definitely going to be reorganized.

Just sayin...


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Magnolia on May 31, 2013, 09:11:52 PM


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/30/joran-van-der-sloot-marriage_n_3361453.html?ncid=webmail3

Joran Van Der Sloot Wedding: Nuptials Being Arranged By Convicted Killer

Convicted killer Joran van der Sloot is engaged to a Peruvian woman, according to his attorney Maximo Altez. The wedding is to be held in June, pending final approval by prison officials.

Altez was unavailable for comment this afternoon. In an earlier interview with the Associated Press he declined to disclose the name of the bride.

"He wants to marry, change his life, start a new life," Altez, also Peruvian, told the AP.

According to published reports, the young woman van der Sloot plans to wed is Leydi Figueroa Uceda, who he met in early 2011 when she was distributing products to inmates at the Miguel Castro Castro prison in San Juan de Lurigancho.

The future bride, according to published reports, was born on Sept. 19, 1989 in Peru. She is reportedly a devout Roman Catholic who lives in San Juan de Lurigancho. She is the mother of a child who may or may not be the son of van der Sloot. There are conflicting reports that the child was conceived during an unsupervised conjugal prison visit. The bride-to-be is, according to the Associated Press, registered at the prison as a conjugal visitor for the convicted killer.

Van der Sloot, an inmate at the Piedras Gordas prison in Lima, was born in Arnhem, Netherlands on Aug. 6, 1987. The Dutch citizen lived in Aruba and is an alumnus of the International School of Aruba. He is the son of Anita van der Sloot-Hugen, an art teacher, and the late Paul van der Sloot.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on May 31, 2013, 10:20:39 PM
Joran seeking attention again, I see.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on June 02, 2013, 12:30:02 AM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=588131857872505&set=a.100274716658224.436.100000270877358&type=1

Carla Jolly Pirates Aruba
May 25
Marlene Nichols-Scherrenburg and Jan's Commitment Ceremony soon in Progress!
Hopi Masha Pabien and SUPER Congratulations to the Very Happy Couple! Photos on our FAN page tomorrow!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/p480x480/375154_588131857872505_2022799997_n.jpg)

https://www.facebook.com/jolly.piratesaruba.5/posts/588495991169425

Carla Jolly Pirates Aruba shared Rona Coster Kahan's photo.
May 26
congratulations to the happy couple!

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More pictures here:

https://www.facebook.com/ronacoster/posts/10151641560530909

Rona Coster Kahan
May 25 at 3:00pm ·  ·
Marlene Nichols-Scherrenburg gets married to Jan Scherrenburg, on board the Carla Jolly Pirates Aruba officiated by Marlene's sister, with friends and family members in attendance!


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on June 02, 2013, 12:34:52 AM
http://www.weddingdialogues.com/commitment_ceremonies.html

What is a commitment ceremony?

The term "commitment ceremony" usually refers to a public ceremony that celebrates the mutual commitment of two people without legally changing the terms of their relationship. Commitment ceremonies are held by couples who are not legally free to marry and by couples who want to celebrate their devotion without marrying.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: texasmom on June 02, 2013, 02:48:09 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/texasmom55/Natalee/Natalee_2005.jpg)

Justice for Natalee!

  ::justice2nj2::




Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Port Valerie on June 02, 2013, 04:03:08 AM
Wow. Eight years. I'm glad the monkeys are still here. I forget how to post. Excuse me if I have to relearn the ropes!



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on June 02, 2013, 09:33:38 AM
Wow. Eight years. I'm glad the monkeys are still here. I forget how to post. Excuse me if I have to relearn the ropes!



Welcome back Port Valerie!   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: grace-land on June 02, 2013, 07:09:23 PM
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2013/06/02/van-der-sloot-art-g76n0kg3-1.html

Van der Sloot intends to wed, possibly blocking extradition
Sunday June 2, 2013 12:18 PM

Imprisoned murderer Joran van der Sloot plans to wed his Peruvian girlfriend for love, not to avoid extradition to the United States in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, his attorney said yesterday.

Van der Sloot, a 25-year-old Dutch citizen, is serving 28 years in prison for killing Peruvian business student Stephany Flores, 21, in 2010 after meeting her while playing poker in a Lima casino.

When his term ends, he is to be sent to the United States to face charges of extortion stemming from the unsolved disappearance of U.S. citizen Natalee Holloway on the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba in 2005.

“He is getting married for the simple reason that he is in love and wants to formalize it,” said his attorney, Max Altez.

Altez said the marriage could be held in the next few weeks if Van der Sloot’s grandmother sends him his birth certificate and if Peruvian authorities grant him a marriage license.

His Peruvian girlfriend is Leydi Figueroa Uceda, who has visited Van der Sloot in prison, Altez said.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on June 02, 2013, 07:27:26 PM
Eight years - We will never forget!

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Great job Klassend.



Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Kermit on June 02, 2013, 07:37:07 PM
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MURDERER

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Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: cadillac on June 02, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2013/06/02/van-der-sloot-art-g76n0kg3-1.html

Van der Sloot intends to wed, possibly blocking extradition
Sunday June 2, 2013 12:18 PM

Imprisoned murderer Joran van der Sloot plans to wed his Peruvian girlfriend for love, not to avoid extradition to the United States in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, his attorney said yesterday.

Van der Sloot, a 25-year-old Dutch citizen, is serving 28 years in prison for killing Peruvian business student Stephany Flores, 21, in 2010 after meeting her while playing poker in a Lima casino.

When his term ends, he is to be sent to the United States to face charges of extortion stemming from the unsolved disappearance of U.S. citizen Natalee Holloway on the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba in 2005.

“He is getting married for the simple reason that he is in love and wants to formalize it,” said his attorney, Max Altez.

Altez said the marriage could be held in the next few weeks if Van der Sloot’s grandmother sends him his birth certificate and if Peruvian authorities grant him a marriage license.

His Peruvian girlfriend is Leydi Figueroa Uceda, who has visited Van der Sloot in prison, Altez said.
 ::snipping3::


Grandmother sending his birth certificate?  Where's Anita?   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: wreck on June 02, 2013, 11:18:54 PM
Anita wants nothing to do with "Vand Der Sloot" .. just like Valintine dropped "Van Der" from his name.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: Puzzler on June 03, 2013, 02:59:46 AM
Joran must be wanting attention.

He killed two women and some other woman wants to marry him?

What does that say about the bride?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on June 03, 2013, 10:25:10 AM
Joran must be wanting attention.

He killed two women and some other woman wants to marry him?

What does that say about the bride?



$$$$$$$$$$  ?


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: MuffyBee on June 03, 2013, 10:30:52 AM
Joran must be wanting attention.

He killed two women and some other woman wants to marry him?

What does that say about the bride?



$$$$$$$$$$  ?

Please let me qualify that.  She wants $$$ and stands to make some with Joran through media etc.  Every once in a while they will  need to create some kind of drama, like an expected baby or some domestic thing, and then more news articles, more $$$.  Sort of one of those symbiotic relationships.  They both stand to make money. Of course, this is just all my own humble opinion.   I see its being bandied about in the news again that the marriage could keep Joran from being extradited to the U.S., and I thought we had finally put that puppy to bed.  If need be, I can search that out again and post it.


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: San on June 03, 2013, 08:30:03 PM
Joran must be wanting attention.

He killed two women and some other woman wants to marry him?

What does that say about the bride?



$$$$$$$$$$  ?

Please let me qualify that.  She wants $$$ and stands to make some with Joran through media etc.  Every once in a while they will  need to create some kind of drama, like an expected baby or some domestic thing, and then more news articles, more $$$.  Sort of one of those symbiotic relationships.  They both stand to make money. Of course, this is just all my own humble opinion.   I see its being bandied about in the news again that the marriage could keep Joran from being extradited to the U.S., and I thought we had finally put that puppy to bed.  If need be, I can search that out again and post it.


Wedding Bells for Natalie Holloway Suspect Joran van der Sloot

by Barbie Latza Nadeau May 31, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

The 26-year-old Dutchman and suspect in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance—now serving time for the murder of a Peruvian girl—is set to marry, his lawyer confirms.

While no one can know for sure whether van ser Sloot and Figueroa Uced are truly in love, marrying a Peruvian and fathering her child may save van der Sloot from further punishment. In 2010, van der Sloot was charged with attempting to extort $250,000 from Beth Holloway in exchange for the exact location and details of her daughter’s death. Holloway gave him $25,000 as a down payment, but he took the money and traveled to Peru to play in a poker tournament, where he ultimately met Flores, lured her to his Lima hotel room and then killed her after she found incriminating materials relating to the Holloway case on his personal computer. He pled guilty in his trial and was sentenced to 28 years, two years short of the maximum sentence of 30 years. He was also ordered to pay the Flores family around $75,000 in damages. He faces 25 years in the American extortion case.

 ::snipping3::

Last May, an accord was reached between the United States and Peru, and van der Sloot was supposed to be extradited to face charges in the United States last year on the grounds that he was a foreign national. The extradition stalled after van der Sloot’s lawyer was able to negotiate an eleventh-hour deal to keep the Dutchman in Peru. Now, by marrying a local Peruvian, he can automatically apply for Peruvian citizenship, which will hinder America’s chances of extraditing him.

 ::snipping3::

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/31/wedding-bells-for-natalie-holloway-suspect-joran-van-der-sloot.html


Title: Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
Post by: jamcakes on June 03, 2013, 09:34:57 PM



Wedding Bells for Natalie Holloway Suspect Joran van der Sloot

by Barbie Latza Nadeau May 31, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

The 26-year-old Dutchman and suspect in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance—now serving time for the murder of a Peruvian girl—is set to marry, his lawyer confirms.

While no one can know for sure whether van ser Sloot and Figueroa Uced are truly in love, marrying a Peruvian and fathering her child may save van der Sloot from further punishment. In 2010, van der Sloot was charged with attempting to extort $250,000 from Beth Holloway in exchange for the exact location and details of her daughter’s death. Holloway gave him $25,000 as a down payment, but he took the money and traveled to Peru to play in a poker tournament, where he ultimately met Flores, lured her to his Lima hotel room and then killed her after she found incriminating materials relating to the Holloway case on his personal computer. He pled guilty in his trial and was sentenced to 28 years, two years short of the maximum sentence of 30 years. He was also ordered to pay the Flores family around $75,000 in damages. He faces 25 years in the American extortion case.

 ::snipping3::

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