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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons) => Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin => Topic started by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2013, 11:04:10 AM



Title: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2013, 11:04:10 AM
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2013, 11:10:21 AM
Clean thread!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:10:41 AM
Thank you for the new thread CBB!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:12:07 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
Di Maio says he's done work for U.S., international governments. U.N. as well. Testified in "most states in the union." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 09, 2013, 11:13:00 AM
Thank you for the new thread CBB!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Hope I didn't catch anybody in mid post!!   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2013, 11:15:57 AM
 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:17:16 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
West offers Di Maio's curriculum vitae as evidence, state objects. Sidebar. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Di Maio: Awarded Outstanding Service Award from National Association of Medical Examiners, among other accolades.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2013, 11:18:27 AM
Not a surprise if Donnelly's testimony gets tossed. Incredible... another lying liar is exposed. Has ANY witness on EITHER side not lied in some way? highly doubtful


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 09, 2013, 11:19:11 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
Di Maio says he's done work for U.S., international governments. U.N. as well. Testified in "most states in the union." #ZimmermanTrial

This witness certainly has impressive credentials. This is going to be hard to overcome for the prosecution. Bill Sheaffer, WFTV legal analyst agrees.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:19:14 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@KenitraX My tweet was accurate.
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Di Maio's CV was accepted into evidence. West continues questioning, now on #GeorgeZimmerman case. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:19:56 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio says he reviewed medical examiner report, DNA & firearm reports, John Good statement, other evidence. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:20:09 AM
Thank you for the new thread CBB!   ::MonkeyKiss::

Hope I didn't catch anybody in mid post!!   ::MonkeyEek::

I was caught posting a long post... :sad:  ...but I'll have a  ::monkeywine2:: and start over again!



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:23:35 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio says he tried to determine distance of #GeorgeZimmerman's gun from  #TrayvonMartin's clothing/skin. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio says he hasn't reviewed all witness statements, most important thing is to compare #GeorgeZimmerman's account to physical evidence.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: flamom on July 09, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
Dr DiMaio is very respected and credentialed. I just wish he didnt say Lana Clarkson committed suicide...... pay me to say what you want.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:27:17 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33s
Di Maio on powder tattooing: "This indicates that the gun was not against the skin." Estimates gun 2-4 inches from #TrayvonMartin's skin.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: #TrayvonMartin's chest had "circular, punched out wound" surrounded by "powder tattooing." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Di Maio: Photographs show #GeorgeZimmerman's gun in contact against #TrayvonMartin's clothes. Agrees with state on that. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:28:20 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweet
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: "The clothing itself had to be 2 to 4 inches away from the body" when #TrayvonMartin was shot. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:29:07 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 10s
Di Maio: Gun was touching #Trayvon's shirt, was 2 to 4 inches from his chest.
#Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:29:17 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Di Maio says #Zimmermanon9 's gun was against Martin's clothing but it was 2-4" away from the skin. The clothing was 2-4" from the body.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Di Maio says the focus should be whether #Zimmermanon9 's account matches the physical evidence using firearms and wound evidence.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Di Maio says he reviewed much of the evidence in the #Zimmermanon9 case including the reenactment and witness statements.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
The state is objecting to Dr. Di Maio's curriculum vitae but judge allowed it into evidence. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
Martin's wet clothes. Dr. Shiping Bao who supervised autopsy earns about $175,000 a year according to his office. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13m 
We checked with the Seminole county medical examiner and no one has been retrained or disciplined for mishandling 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  15m 
He is another defense witness who has done work for the Department of Justice, and he's worked on the Yugoslavia war crimes. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  17m 
A hole in the clothing before the bullet goes through. The defense is working to pinpoint how close #Zimmermanon9 's gun was to Martin.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  18m 
They are taking notes as he testified that if a gun is put against clothing and fired  the gas from the gun will blow 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  21m 
The jury is paying close attention to his description of what happens when a gun is fired. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:33:42 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Danny Morales ‏@Danny_Morales_ 2m
Dr. Di Maio mentions that he has done test on live animals.It's worth noting that there are two animal rescuers on the jury. #ZimmermanTrial
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Di Maio says he confirmed science of powder tattooing with tests on live animals. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:34:40 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Di Maio: Zimmerman's gun and Trayvon's clothing was two to four inches away from Trayvon's skin when fired.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Di Maio: Zimmerman's gun was in contact with Trayvon's clothing at time of shooting.

Christina Vazquez Christina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports  11m 
Di Maio tells jurors two most important things in this case are autopsy report and reports by firearm examiner.
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
Di Maio says the most important part of this case is whether physical evidence lines up with Zimmerman's story.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Di Maio reviews a lot of case material including Zimmerman walk-thru, witness statements, Trayvon's autopsy and toxicology report.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  18m 
Don West was trying to introduce the résumé of Di Maio into evidence. State objected and lawyers at bench. West looked surprised by all this

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  22m 
Di Maio says he testified in New Orleans case where police shot and killed people after Hurricane Katrina.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  24m 
Di Maio: "You don't need the bullet to kill you with contact wounds." #zimmerman
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  24m 
Di Maio let's everyone know blank cartridges can kill you. News to me. Di Maio says gases can burn through your skin to lung and head.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  27m 
Di Maio is now explaining how a bullet comes out of a gun when someone shoots.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:34:43 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
Di Maio says #TrayvonMartin's clothing wouldn't have changed powder tattooing on his body. Gas from shot made a hole. #ZImmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Picture of gun shot wound Trayvon suffered is displayed for jury. Tracy Martin looks away. Sybrina Fulton is not in court.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Di Maio's expert testimony supports Zimmerman's claim that's Trayvon was on top of him with his hoodie leaning away from his chest.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:36:51 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio says evidence would look different if gun was pressed into #TrayvonMartin's chest, as state said in opening. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: "Everything coming out the muzzle was going through the hole" in #TrayvonMartin's clothes. #GeorgeZImmerman #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 11:37:52 AM
All state can do is ask about killing animals


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:39:57 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
#ZimmermanTrial: Defense gunshot wound expert testifies | Updated story: http://bit.ly/12Vk5cP  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio says this case wasn't a tough call. Basic, 101-level stuff for him, he testifies. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:41:22 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Di Maio on powder tattooing: "This indicates that the gun was not against the skin." Estimates gun 2-4 inches from #TrayvonMartin's skin.

 SlaterSlater ‏@AlanHighverson 3m
@JeffWeinerOS incorrect, he said it was approximately 10 millimeters away, or it wouldn't show.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@AlanHighverson No, he said 2 to 4 inches. Trust me. Has said it multiple times now.
 

8:40 AM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:42:17 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Di Maio says the bullet went from Martin's left front to his right lung. It was not a straight on shot. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Dr. Bao testified that Dr. Di Maio's book is on his shelf. Di Maio says his conclusion is "101" forensic pathology. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Medical examiner Dr. Bao estimated the gun was .4 inches to 4 feet away from Martin and chose not to be more specific. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
Prosecutor John Guy told the jury during opening statements that #Zimmermanon9 pressed his gun into Martin's chest and fired.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
Di Maio says he's done a lot of research on gunshot wounds and the range of distance. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13m 
The jury is paying very close attention to his testimony using the photo of the gun wound. They are taking notes. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:42:35 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: "If you lean over somebody, you will notice that the clothing tends to fall away from the chest." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Evidence consistent with #GeorgeZimmerman claim #TrayvonMartin was straddling him? Di Maio: Evidence "is consistent." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio says there was slight left-to-right bullet trajectory, not precisely straight-on. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 11:43:31 AM
Or maybe Guy will play the 911 call 'Did you hear the defendant say fnpunk and Ahole"


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:43:41 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: Dist. btwn #TrayvonMartin's clothes & body "consistent with somebody leaning over the person doing the shooting." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:44:41 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28s
Di Maio said #TrayvonMartin's clothing being wet, having Arizona can in hoodie also supports #GeorgeZimmerman's account. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:45:35 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Stewart Moore ‏@StewartMoore 30s
VM: if I reached out and ripped out your heart, you can talk to me for 10-15secs. That's minimum
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:46:17 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Di Maio: Gun shot wound is consistent with #TrayvonMartin leaning over #GeorgeZimmerman with iced tea in his hoodie pocket when shot.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Di Maio says physical evidence is consistent with #TrayvonMartin leaning over #GeorgeZimmerman at time of shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Di Maio: "The medical evidence is consistent with his (Zimmerman's) story."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Di Maio says shot doesn't look like a straight on shot. Bullet went through ribs, to heart and then lungs.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Di Maio said if Trayvon has been shot with gun pressed to chest there would be a "hallow of black soot." Instead there is powder tattooing


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: Shot person able to move/talk "minimum, 10 to 15 seconds." #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Dr. Di Maio says someone can talk and walk a minimum of 10-15 seconds after heart stops because of brain's oxygen reserve.  #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Di Maio says Martin's wet clothing, the drink can in his sweatshirt pouch and leaning over #Zimmermanon9 is consistent with evidence.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
Di Maio says #Zimmermanon9 's account of the shooting is consistent with the evidence of Martin's wound.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2013, 11:50:26 AM
June 7, 2012
What the Media Choose Not to Know about Trayvon


http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/what_the_media_choose_not_to_know_about_trayvon.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:50:37 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Di Maio: Someone could have their heart ripped out and still talk and walk for 10 to 15 seconds.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:51:53 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)

Mark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 10m
Dr. Dimaio wrote book "Forensic Pathology" & his testimony further confirms #TrayvonMartin was on top of #GeorgeZimmerman @cnn @cfnews13


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:53:07 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio: #TrayvonMartin consious "significantly shorter" than amount of time needed for death. #ZimmemanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Di Maio: #TrayvonMartin would've been dead "within 1 to 3 minutes after being shot." #GeorgeZImmerman #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:54:21 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Could #TrayvonMartin have moved his arms from outstreched position to under body before death? Di Maio: "Yes." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Di Maio: To immobilize someone immediately, "what you have to do is you have to shoot them in th head." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:54:54 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Dr. Di Maio had a case where someone ran 65 feet after his heart was shredded by a shotgun. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Dr. Maio says Martin would have died 1-3 minutes after being shot and would have lost consciousness at least 10-15 seconds. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:55:21 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 41s
West: Would expect bruising on #TrayvonMartin's knuckles if punching? Di Maio: "You can see bruising, or you can not see bruising." Varies.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:56:20 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)

Mark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 2m
I've said for a year forensics dictates outcome of #GeorgeZimmerman case. Forensics more reliable than people.@cnn @cfnews13 #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:56:50 AM
July 13, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Di Maio's finding lines up w/ Bao's initial finding that Trayvon lived 1 to 3 minutes after shooting. Bao later changed to 1 to 10 mins

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Di Maio says #TrayvonMartin lived one to three minutes after being shot. He was conscious for a minimum of 10 to 15 seconds.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 11:57:13 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: Internal inspection of #TrayvonMartin's fingers could've revealed bruising not visible from outside. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 11:59:23 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  31s 
Dr. Di Maio says head trauma could cause internal bleeding which could be deadly. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Internally but Dr. Bao did not do that. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Dr. Di Maio says Dr. Bao could have determined whether Martin's hands were bruised from punching by looking internally 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Dr. Di Maio says Martin's knuckle scrapes are consistent with contact with concrete. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Di Maio says it's possible Martin could have moved his arms 10-15 seconds after and once unconscious would not feel pain.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio: Banging head can cause brain bruising, potentially fatal bleeding. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:03:28 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Di Maio: "Concrete doesn't yeild." When head hits concrete, it's head that yeilds. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio: Violent head movement can cause irreparable harm to axons in brain. "At some point, you're gonna die." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:06:06 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)

(Expanded Tweets)

Mark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 3m
Forget #GeorgeZimmerman statements about what happened. Science clearly establishes that #TrayvonMartin #Trayvon was on top.@cnn @HLNTV

FAV
9:03 AM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details
 Brian RubrightBrian Rubright ‏@BrianRFSU 2m
@MarkNeJame @CNN @HLNTV So, self defense rules and #zimmerman walks?

 CuriousCurious ‏@Curious111188 1m
@MarkNeJame @CNN @HLNTV No it doesn't.They could have been standing, GZ holding on hoodie (getOffgetOff). Gunshot straight shot, no angle.

 jacghpjacghp ‏@jacghp 48s
@MarkNeJame @CNN @HLNTV you've sounded biased from the beginning. i'm forgetting what you say. lol


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 12:06:33 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
When impact is harder..  Every day bumps to the head usually don't cause visible bloody wounds. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
He says head impact could stun someone.. and cause mild concussion..  He says cuts indicate trauma because they happen 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Dr. Di Maio says if the head hits concrete the concrete does not yield the head yields. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:07:08 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Di Maio shown photo of back of #GeorgeZimmerman's head taken at scene, identifies two lacerations. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Valerie BoeyValerie Boey ‏@vboey 3m
Di Maio when your head hits concrete you're gonna be stunned. B29 nods head.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio: If head hits concrete hard enough for cuts, "at a minimum, stunned." Could be "much worse than that." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
"When you have lacerations, you know there was some trauma," Di Maio said.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Di Maio says if you hit your head hard enough on concrete you can die. Adds Zimmerman's injuries could have come from contact w/ concrete.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Laceration itself a significant injury? Di Maio: It's a marker of "severe force." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 12:13:09 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  44s 
Di Maio says severe lacerations can lead to bleeding to death. Zimmerman's injuries weren't those kind.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Di Maio: Head lacerations are rare, they take force.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Di Maio now explaining photo of Zimmerman's head shortly after shooting. Di Maio says there were at least two contact wounds on head.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:14:53 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: Severe head trauma possible without visible marks. Repeatedly says #GeorgeZimmerman could've been "stunned" by blows.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:20:19 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West takes Di Maio through #GeorgeZimmerman injury photos, VDM says they're consistent w/hitting concrete. #ZimmemanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio: Abrasions on #GeorgeZimmerman indicate contact with flat, rough surface. West: Like concrete? VDM: "Yes." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Di Maio: Stunning  = "very mild concussion." Says concussions can be cumulative. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 12:21:14 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Di Maio says #Zimmermanon9 has injuries on both sides of his head and the back consistent with repeated trauma.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Di Maio says #Zimmermanon9 's head injury is consistent with hitting a concrete sidewalk.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Di Maio says a series of blows could have stunned #Zimmermanon9 repeatedly.. And says people have died from repeated blows.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Di Maio says #Zimmermanon9 's head cuts are markers of severe force and says severe impact doesn't always leave marks.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:23:40 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio now shown #GeorgeZimmerman bloody-nose photo. Says injury consistent with fracture. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:27:53 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Screengrab: Di Maio testifies about #GeorgeZimmerman bloody-nose photo. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/F5cs1M3dd2 (http://pic.twitter.com/F5cs1M3dd2)


 https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354637482681327616/photo/1
(http://i.imgur.com/VIzQhB4.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 12:28:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  2m 
UPDATE: Forensic pathologist testifies in #Zimmermantrial; hearing on animation postponed: http://at.wftv.com/15azQuZ  #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Di Maio says #Zimmermanon9 's nose shows signs of a displace fracture consistent with being punched and another blow to his forehead.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:30:10 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio says #GeorgeZimmerman photos show six "identifiable" impacts. Says could'be been more. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Danny MoralesDanny Morales ‏@Danny_Morales_ 3m
Di Maio says that #GeorgeZimmerman's injury to the face are consistent with being punched, not concrete. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Di Maio: #GeorgeZimmerman photo suggests displaced fracture. EMS may have pushed back in place, "either consciously or unconsiously."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:31:05 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West looks to be done with direct examination. If so, no talk of THC in #TrayvonMartin's system. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 12:31:40 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
The six injuries Di Maio pointed out on Zimmerman: two head lacerations, two temple wounds, one nose injury and one forehead wound.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Di Maio now pointing out bruising on Zimmerman's head. He says there are at least six injuries to Zimmerman's head.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Di Maio: Zimmerman's face injuries are consistent with having been punched in the nose. Zimmerman said Trayvon sucker punched him.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Don West now having Di Maio point out the injuries of Zimmerman on blown up picture.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Jurors still paying attention and taking lots of notes.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Di Maio says Zimmerman's injuries are consistent with hitting a sidewalk.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  17m 
Di Maio however says Zimmerman's head injuries were caused by severe force and could have "stunned" Zimmerman.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 12:32:43 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Court to recess for lunch. Jurors back 1:30 p.m. for state cross examination of Di Maio. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 12:33:56 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Di Maio said the dissipation of #Zimmermanon9 's nose swelling could show a paramedic could have fixed a fracture even inadvertently.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The lawyers are now up at the bench. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 12:35:38 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  3m 
Court is recess until 1:30. #zimmerman #trayvonmartin
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2013, 01:26:20 PM
Posting, useless information. (IMO) The jury must be non-smoker's, IMO.
The Juror's, pass-up breaks, in order to speed-up the case. IMO


 ::MonkeyEek::






Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 01:30:27 PM
Posting, useless information. (IMO) The jury must be non-smoker's, IMO.
The Juror's, pass-up breaks, in order to speed-up the case. IMO


 ::MonkeyEek::






(Bolded by me)
What do you mean, Seahorse?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 01:36:06 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio: Can't confirm #GeorgeZimmerman's reenactment is "gospel truth," or that fight didn't start as #TrayvonMartin self-defense.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR now questioning Di Maio for the state. You can't say who threw 1st punch? Di Maio: "That's correct." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Court back in session, jury returning. State to cross examine Dr. Vincent Di Maio. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
#ZimmermanTrial testimony resumes soon | Watch: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 35m
#ZimmermanTrial: Defense expert says evidence matches #GeorgeZimmerman's account | Updated: http://bit.ly/12Vk5cP  #TrayvonMartin
 View summary


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 01:38:21 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25s
BDLR: You didn't review Rachel Jeantel's testimony? Di Maio: "No, sir." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: You didn't use all witness statements? Di Maio: "I focused on" #GeorgeZimmerman's & if "consistent with what I found." #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 01:39:21 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 54s
Di Maio: Other statements "are for the jury to evaluate, not for me." #GeorgeZimmeman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: tupelohoney on July 09, 2013, 01:56:36 PM
 https://twitter.com/RichardHornsby (https://twitter.com/RichardHornsby)


Richard Hornsby ‏@RichardHornsby 35m
#Zimmerman defense likely decided THC evidence could backfire; as would allow state to argue #Trayvon was unlikely to be aggressor if high.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state keeps focusing on the small size of #Zimmermanon9 's head injuries to show they were not serious.

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  4m 
UPDATE: Expert says evidence jibes with #GeorgeZimmerman's story: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  #Zimmermanon9 pic.twitter.com/NsObT1X1c9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
   View photo      Reply 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
Di Maio told the state that #Zimmermanon9 could have punched Martin and not have had bruises on his knuckles.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
The state is trying to show that one of #Zimmermanon9 's injuries could have been caused by trees.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
He told the state he can't say whether #Zimmermanon9 is telling the truth.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  19m 
He told the state that he was paid $2400 for his work and that this is not a complicated case. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  21m 
Di Maio said he worked on the Drew Peterson and Phil Spector cases for the defense. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  23m 
The state pointed out the one eyewitness to the fight.. Did not hear the slapping sound of punches  or thuds on the ground. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  24m 
@cshenkel State law allows immediate family of the victim in the courtroom, even if they're potential witnesses. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation     

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  25m 
Di Maio laughed when state tried to show #Zimmermanon9 's flashlight could have caused serious injury. #

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  28m 
Martin was defending himself. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  29m 
Di Maio told the state he can't say who started the fight, can't say for sure whether anyone threw a punch or whether 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  33m 
We don't know how or why it happened. The state deposed him May 9. The judge has not publicly dealt with it yet. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  36m 
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says it's the defense's responsibility to tell its witnesses they're sequestered. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  37m 
We don't believe defense witness John Donnelly heard the 911 call in court so there may not be a perjury question but 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  38m 
WATCH LIVE: Prosecution to cross examine the defense's forensic pathologist: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  #Zimmermanon9 pic.twitter.com/CbYfkagTvi


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:14:55 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
De la Rionda gets Di Maio to agree that hoodies like Trayvon's often hang down and away from bodies.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Last tweet is significant because state has continuously pointed out that #TrayvonMartin didn't have blood on his hands.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
De la Rionda gets Di Maio to say that  Di Maio would expect blood on someone's hand if they touched Zimmerman's bloodied face.

Corey Dade Corey Dade ‏@CoreyDade  6m 
State: #Zimmerman's nose may not have been broken? Di Maio:But then swelling shouldn't still be there, and it is (though reduced).#GZtrial
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Di Maio also says Zimmerman could have hit Trayvon and not have any bruising on his knuckles.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
Zimmerman's injuries could have been caused by rolling on the concrete or hitting a tree, Di Maio said.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  18m 
Di Maio said the gun shot could also be consistent with Trayvon trying to pull away from Zimmerman while both on the ground.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  26m 
Di Maio is paid $400 an hour. So far he's charged defense $2400. "It's not a complicated case forensically."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  28m 
Di Maio shot at animals to test work of firearm examiner in Zimmerman case. The work checked out as accurate.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  29m 
De la Rionda: Zimmerman was armed with andy gun and flashlight. Di Maio says flash light wasn't significant and could probably cause bruises

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  30m 
De la Rionda points out that Zimmerman had a self interest in his police statement that Di Maio focused on.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  34m 
De la Rionda gets Di Maio to say he didn't review statement of Rachel Jeantel and focused on Zimmerman's statement.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  35m 
Di Maio says all he can testify about is gun shot wound not how the fight happened.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  36m 
De la Rionda gets Di Maio to say he can't tell who started the fight, whether a first punch was thrown & whether all Zimmerman said is true

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  40m 
Defense witness Vincent Di Maio is back on the stand. De la Rionda is up for cross.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  41m 
Jury is back in court.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:16:39 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Di Maio again points out that the way clothes of #TrayvonMartin were packaged could cause mold and degrade DNA.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
De la Rionda: Have you ever worn a hoodie like #Trayvon's? Di Maio: "Not that type."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:18:56 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state wants to show that #Zimmermanon9 could have gotten head injuries by rolling around on the sidewalk.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The state is trying to show that Martin would not have had to be leaning over #Zimmermanon9 when he was shot based on the evidence.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
The prosecutor is trying to show Martin should have had blood on his hand if he hit #Zimmermanon9 's nose more than once.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda simulated punching #Zimmermanon9 by using the bloody photo of him.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:20:46 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Sonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 30m
DeMaio:  I can't testify as to who was calling for help, nor can I testify that he pulled gun from holster. Can't say where he got gun from.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 30m
BDLR: You can't confirm how #GeorgeZimmerman got to gun? Di Maio: "I can just say that the injuries are consistent with how he shot him."

 Kyle HightowerKyle Hightower ‏@khightower 33m
Di Maio says he's been paid $2400 so far for his work for defense in #zimmerman case.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33m
Di Maio rate is $400/hour. Says #GeorgeZimmerman case didn't take much work, "not exactly a complicated case forensically." #ZimmermanTrial

 Sonni AbattaSonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 36m
State:  Did you run the shooting tests using live animals?  DeMaio:  Yes, following federal guidelines.  #ZimmermanonFOX
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 35m
Di Maio asked about testing powder tattooing on live animals. Says they were anesthetized. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36m
@AlexXnuc That was his answer to the next question, about whether GZ could've had incentive to lie.
 View conversation

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 38m
BDLR: Did you know #GeorgeZimmerman also "armed with" flashlight? Di Maio says GZ's flashlight not heavy enough to be a "dangerous weapon."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman has self-interest when giving police statement? Di Maio: "Yes, sir." #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:21:15 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Di Maio is repeating that the shooting itself was consistent with #Zimmermanon9 's account. He says there could be other possibilities.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:22:04 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
BDLR: Agree #GeorgeZimmerman didn't need stitches? Di Maio: "I agree," but says outside expertise. "I don't treat people." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
Di Maio: Emergency room, EMT records tend to be "lousy;" worried about treating patients, not forensics. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 24m
Injuries could've been from #GeorgeZimmerman & #TrayvonMartin rolling around on concrete? "Impact on the concrete, that's what I'm saying."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
BDLR & Di Maio sparring on whether #GeorgeZimmerman's injuries could've come from hitting tree bark. #ZImmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Kyle HightowerKyle Hightower ‏@khightower 27m
Jurors take note as Di Maio acknowledges #trayvonmartin could have been pulling away from #zimmerman when he was shot.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
@AlexXnuc http://bit.ly/12p1phk
  View tweet

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28m
Di Maio says physical evidence isn't consistent with #TrayvonMartin & #GeorgeZimmerman standing when shot fired. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29m
Di Maio says she also can't testify to exact angle of #GeorgeZimmerman & #TrayvonMartin when shot fired. Says TM likely hanging over GZ.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 30m
Di Maio on how #GeorgeZimmerman unholstered gun: "It's outside my ability to make a conclusion like that." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:22:43 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Di Maio testifies that Zimmerman is right handed. Zimmerman is actually left handed and just shots with right hand.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Di Maio: Scalp bleeding is always profuse because there are more vessels there.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:24:01 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
BDLR: Someone put #GeorgeZimmerman's nose back in place? Di Maio: Yes, or he could have "just by pulling on it." #ZimmermanTrial
11:17 AM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details

 Stewart MooreStewart Moore ‏@StewartMoore 8m
VM: (would you be surprised if DNA was found in package that was 'mishandled') no
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
BDLR: Don't people wear hoodies a little big, & don't they hang down? Di Maio: "Yes sir." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 13m
Bernie: If I put my hand over a bloody nose, what would you expect on my hand?
di Maio: Blood.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
Di Maio agrees videos from after shooting show #GeorgeZimmmerman walking & talking fine. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Di Maio says he'd expect blood on hand if covering #GeorgeZimmerman's face injury. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
BDLR demonstrates size of #GeorgeZimmeramn head cuts. Could die from those? Di Maio: No, "I never said that." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:25:07 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West back up for redirect. Di Maio says "witnesses are wrong all the time," prefers physical evidence. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: Do you know if #GeorgeZimmerman's right handed, or left? Di Maio: "Right handed." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
BDLR: You don't know if #TrayvonMartin was backing up when shot? Di Maio: No. All I said was "consistent with" #GeorgeZimmerman's account.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:25:40 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
West back up for redirect.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
De la Rionda also brings up that there were sprinklers on ground of Retreat at Twin Lakes. Something else Zimmerman could have bumped into


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West now taking Di Maio through witnesses whose statements he didn't use. Trying to establish he didn't need them. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:28:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Good's testimony consistent with forensic evidence? Di Maio: "Yes, sir," but still rely on "physical evidence." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio says witness testimony that #GeorgeZimmerman was on top, #TrayvonMartin face down on bottom not possible. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:29:17 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Dr. Di Maio said one witness's account of Martin being face down on the ground when he was shot is not possible. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The defense is questioning Dr. Di Maio again. He says witnesses are wrong all the time and he won't base his opinion on them. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:33:41 PM
June 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Di Maio says #Zimmermanon9 's injuries are more consistent with impact with concrete than with a tree branch or trunk.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Di Maio said John Good's account of the shooting is consistent with #Zimmermanon9 's and the evidence but he focused on Zimmerman's.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Sonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 3m
Once again DeMaio brings up need for forensic nurses, who would be able to better document injuries for possible legal use later.  #Fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio: "The cement is more plausible" cause of #GeorgeZimmerman's injuries than a tree. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
West chuckles as he begins questioning about tree branches. Di Maio says no branches were around. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:35:18 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Statement of John Good that #TrayvonMartin was on top is supported by physical evidence, Di Maio says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Di Maio says it's not possible that Trayvon was faced down while shot as a state witness said

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Di Maio says state witnesses who say they heard fight and who said Zimmerman was on top of a faced down Trayvon would not be helpful to him.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
Di Maio: "Usually concussions show up immediately," but "can be extremely subtle." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Di Maio on #GeorgeZimmerman: "He's obviously been punched in the nose," regardless of if it's broken. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio: Delayed black eyes consistent w/punch in the nose. "Wouldn't be surprising at all." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:37:06 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Di Maio says #Zimmermanon9 most likely was stunned or mildly concussed and compared it to football injury.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Di Maio says black eyes would show up hours later if impact was not directly to the eye. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:37:26 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
West: Would person being beaten know for sure life in jeopardy? Di Maio: "No because they're stunned... in pain, in fear?" #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:38:58 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43s
Di Maio says cops should've taken #GeorgeZimmerman to hospital, could've been sued if he had died. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Question mark in prior tweet was accidental, not intended to indicate how Di Maio answered question.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:39:02 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Di Maio says police should have taken Zimmerman to the hospital and not the police station because of his head injuries .

Corey Dade Corey Dade ‏@CoreyDade  7m 
Di Maio: Concrete "more plausible" cause of #Zimmerman's head wounds than a tree in the state's hypothetical. #GZtrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:41:24 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Packaging of #TrayvonMartin's clothes proper? Di Maio: "No, sir." DNA could be degraded? "Oh, yes." #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:43:15 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
West: Could someone w/ Zimmerman's injuries know if they were life threatening? Di Maio: No b/c "pain" & "fear" would block interpretation

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Di Maio says injuries of Zimmerman could have  led to pain and fear. Key for self defense cases.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:44:14 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: Head position could affect whether blood on #GeorgeZImmerman's face during fight w/ #TrayvonMartin? Di Maio agrees. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:45:57 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Di Maio says biological evidence on #TrayvonMartin's hands could've been harmed by rain, "how the hands were handled," etc. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:50:29 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Di Maio says the medical examiner should have made sure the assistants did things correctly.  Dr. Bao said it wasn't his job. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
Di Maio says if #Zimmermanon9 had died at police station from head injury the Sanford Police could have been sued successfully.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:52:51 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR in recross notes hoodie could've absorbed blood from wound between scene & M.E. Di Maio agrees, possible. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Defense shows Di Maio #TrayvonMartin photos. One at scene had blood coming from gunshot wound, one at autopsy didn't. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Sidebar, state objects to photos defense wanted to introduce. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:56:56 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Corey Dade ‏@CoreyDade  5m 
Defense allowed to show 2 photos. Di Maio: pic @ scene shows blood from #Trayvon's wound; 2nd pic fm autopsy shows no blood. #GZtrial
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Di Maio says medical examiner shouldn't have taken off Trayvon's clothes before photographing the wound.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
West having Di Maio again go over that it was wrong to place Trayvon's wet clothes into plastic bags because DNA can get degraded.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 37s
Di Maio excused. Defense to call next witness. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Di Maio says he disregarded witness statements. "The witnesses, they're all over the place." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Di Maio: John Good's initial statement good, but said "something else on the witness stand." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 02:58:41 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Di Maio says the medical examiner did sloppy work because blood was wiped away somehow before Martin's body was cleaned. #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Bonaparte fired Police Chief Bill Lee for his handling of the case. Bonaparte was also the one who played the 911 call for Trayvon's family.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Di Maio done testifying. Next defense witness is Sanford city manager Norton Bonaparte.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Di Maio says he didn't rely on witnesses because they are "all over the place." Says he relied on physical evidence and autopsy report


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:02:03 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Decided to play tape fr #TrayvonMartin's family? "The decision was made to play a number of tapes." #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara questioning Bonaparte. Asking him about playing of 911 call w/screams for #TrayvonMartin's family. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Next witness: Norton Bonaparte, Sanford's City Manager. #GeorgeZImmerman #trayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:02:39 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The defense called Norton Bonaparte the Sanford city manager. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Di Maio says the witnesses are all over the place and you can't rely on them to determine how the shooting happened. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:04:12 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara asking about Bonaparte's role in playing 911 calls for Trayvon's family.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:04:56 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20s
Bonaparte says he doesn't know how many times scream call was played. Wasn't in room whole time. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Law enforcement present? Bonaparte: "No," #TrayvonMartin's family didn't want them there. #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Bonaparte says there wasn't discussion of playing tapes for #TrayvonMartin family member separately. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Bonaparte says decision was to release tapes publicly. Played for #TrayvonMartin's parents 1st as courtesy. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Bonaparte on playing tapes for #TrayvonMartin's parents: "At that point they weren't witnesses, they were parents." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:06:09 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 47s
Bonaparte says meeting, playing of 911 audio for #TrayvonMartin's parents wasn't recorded. #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:06:20 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Bonaparte: At time of 911 calls being playing Trayvon's parents were just parents not witnesses.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Bonaparte: Trayvon's family said they didn't want law enforcement during 911 call playing so Bonaparte obliged


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:07:30 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Sanford city manager Norton Bonaparte says he doesn't remember exactly how he had the family listen to the 911 tapes.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 03:08:36 PM
next witness in a unique way, I hope it's Skype again


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:08:43 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
He did not record the event of family listening to the tape.. He it was being released to the public later that day. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Bonaparte said no notes were taken during the meeting because calls were being played as a courtesy.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
It appears Jeff Weiner's twitter account is temporarily down.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:12:30 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Relative's cancer surgery went well!! Thanks to all the good wishes!!!!!

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Bonaparte did not seem happy about testifying. He told me back then the city was worried about being sued for false arrest. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:13:05 PM
Whew!  It's back up again.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:14:21 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Nelson: 15 minute recess before next witness. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Sidebar before next witness, who O'Mara said may testify in a "unique way." Interesting... #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
BDLR very brief. Playing call for #TrayvonMartin's parents seemed like "decent thing" to do? Bonaparte says that was intent. Excused.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
BDLR now up for cross examination of Bonaparte.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:16:12 PM
I'm reading the tweets but not posting them at Scared Monkeys.   https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense (https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense)  Very interesting, imo. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:16:34 PM
It appears Jeff Weiner's twitter account is temporarily down.



Awww...hope he comes back up!  Rest...or...would you like to take one of my ladies' tweets? 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 03:18:23 PM
https://twitter.com/schellay89

Amy Abigail Schell ⚓ ‏@schellay89 5m Tuned in to this Zimmerman case. All I an say is your defense is weak and poor lawyer decision Zimmerman. #teamtrevon


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:18:37 PM
I'm reading the tweets but not posting them at Scared Monkeys.   https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense (https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense)  Very interesting, imo. 

 ::rhino::  Andrew is also good with his daily analysis.  imo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:29:24 PM
I'm reading the tweets but not posting them at Scared Monkeys.   https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense (https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense)  Very interesting, imo. 

 ::rhino::  Andrew is also good with his daily analysis. 



I agree his daily analysis is good.  Thank you for providing the link to the site, as I had never seen it before.  I've enjoyed reading Andrew's tweets because they not only have a legal basis/opinion, but also he inserts some funnies in there.  The comments  remind me of Statler and Waldorf up in the balcony from the Muppet show.  There's room for law/legal opinion and some humor, imo.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 03:31:17 PM
Tweet from someone that does not know what phenomenal means;

???a??az? ?@QueenofRoyaltyy 7m
The prosecution is doing a phenomenal job with getting their points across on this
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:31:48 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36s
More Skype-like testimony (probably FaceTime). O'Mara says precautions were taken to prevent prankster call-ins that happened last time.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
#ZimmermanTrial: Defense forensic expert, Sanford manager testify | Updated story: http://bit.ly/16o2BDY  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:35:06 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
This may be Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett's testimony. #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:36:35 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)

(opened conversation)

Natalie O'Hayre ‏@Natalie_OHayre 3h
I can't stand to listen to @AshleighCNN fawning over #Zimmerman defense witness. Her & @MarkNeJame have seemed pretty biased towards #GZ.

 Mark NeJameMark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 2h
@Natalie_OHayre @ashleighcnn Ridiculous! If one of worlds top experts testifies & even then you refuse to accept reality, it's your denial

9:56 AM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:38:27 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)

(opened conversation)
Mark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 4h
Dr. Dimaio wrote book "Forensic Pathology" & his testimony further confirms #TrayvonMartin was on top of #GeorgeZimmerman @cnn @cfnews13

 root banxroot banx ‏@rootbanx 3h
@MarkNeJame @CNN @cfnews13 If Trayvon was on top, the "firearm" would have been inaccessible. Really?

 Mark NeJameMark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 2h
@rootbanx @cnn @cfnews13 physically & scientifically impossible for #GeorgeZimmerman to have been atop #TrayvonMartin pls review testimony



10:05 AM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:39:34 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Video: Here's what happened last time a witness in this trial tried to testify by video link http://bit.ly/16o3Cff  (http://bit.ly/16o3Cff)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:40:53 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets


(opened conversation)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Video: Here's what happened last time a witness in this trial tried to testify by video link http://bit.ly/16o3Cff  (http://bit.ly/16o3Cff)

 coreshiftcoreshift ‏@coreshift 6m
@JeffWeinerOS Yes, but they aren't using Skype this time. Apparently. Or if so MOM said it was more secure. Think not skype.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@coreshift Read my tweet from before that one.

12:37 PM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details
 coreshiftcoreshift ‏@coreshift 4m
@JeffWeinerOS Ahh, TY. I did miss your previous tweet.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:41:24 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  56s 
Next witness is Eloise Dilligard, a former neighbor of Zimmerman.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara says this is the defense's last witness. Defense will likely be done tomorrow, he says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Defense witness is testifying by FaceTime I gather.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
After a 15 minute break, court is back in session.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:42:25 PM
Sorry, missed twitter link above...

July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Dilligard says she remembers #GeorgeZimmerman as a "friendly neighbor." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Next witness: Eloise Dilligard. Testifying by video. #GeorgeZimmerman neighbor at time of #TrayvonMartin shooting. #ZimmermanTrial

 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 3m
O'Mara: I am now calling my last witness. Some other expert testimony will come out of the presence of the jury, but I'm gonna be done Wed.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
#GeorgeZimmerman apparently will not testify. This itness is defense's last, O'Mara says. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara: This is last witness, defense is "probably going to be done tommorrow." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:43:25 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Dilligard knew #ZimmermanOn9 as a friendly neighbor.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
O'Mara has called his final witness - it's Eloise Dilligard.  She is testifying via Skype.  #Zimmermanon9

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  5m 
BREAKING: Defense is calling its final witness and says they'll likely rest tomorrow. #Zimmermanon9 #Zimmermantrial
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:44:47 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
#GeorgeZimmerman apparently will not testify. This itness is defense's last, O'Mara says. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 coreshiftcoreshift ‏@coreshift 3m
@JeffWeinerOS Huh? Last for just today or is defense giving up on the animation?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@coreshift All he said was last.

12:43 PM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:45:40 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Dilligard says arrived in neighborhood night of #TrayvonMartin shooting, saw crime scene tape & #GeorgeZimmerman's truck. #ZimemrmanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:46:01 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  26s 
O'Mara is asking the witness about the layout of the #ZimmermanOn9 neighborhood the night of the shooting.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Correction: Dilligard is testifying via Apple Face-time; not Skype.  She is testifying remotely because she is sick. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Since O'Mara says Dilligard is last witness, it's likely #GeorgeZimmerman will not testify.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:49:36 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  47s 
Dilligard says an officer told her he was trying to identify  the people involved in the shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Defense has referenced Dilligard as a neighbor who identified Zimmerman shortly after the shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Dilligard says she noticed Zimmerman's truck nearby crime scene tape. She said she was friendly with Zimmerman.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:52:33 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  59s 
Dilligard said #ZimmermanOn9 did not look like himself in the photos that night and even looked disfigured.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Dilligard is explaining on when she was asked to identify the defendant.  She was shown pictures on a smartphone. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:54:05 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Dilligard: Zimmerman's nose looked "very disfigured" in photo she was shown of him by police.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Dilligard said she identified Zimmerman using a photo she was shown by police that night.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:54:44 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Dilligard says she recognized #GeorgeZimmerman in photo, "he did have a bloody nose, yes." #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
I also now think this is what was said. RT @TonyPipitone: Defense said this was last witness today and they expect to rest tomorrow.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Dilligard says officer approached her, said he was trying to identify #GeorgeZimmerman & #TrayvonMartin. Asked her to look at pics.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:55:48 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Dilligard: #GeorgeZimmerman's face "still looked the same," but nose disfigured. Gave cop GZ's name. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Objection on hearsay called;  lawyers at the bench. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The night of the shooting, Dilligard was concerned about #ZimmermanOn9 wife was. She was concerned b/c GZ looked injured in the pictures.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 03:58:05 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
State objects to Dilligard testifying about her conversation with wife of Zimmerman.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Dilligard said she knocked on Zimmerman's door looking for his wife. Shellie Zimmerman pulled up shortly after.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Dilligard said after seeing Zimmerman's injures she got concerned and wondered where his "next of kin, his wife" was.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 57s
George Zimmerman defense plans to rest Wednesday. http://thesent.nl/18KlGq4 .
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:00:03 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Dilligard says she spoke to #GeorgeZimmerman's wife, Shellie, on night of #TrayvonMartin shooting. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:01:04 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Dilligard says she was present for verbal statements of other witnesses. Thought names were Jeremy & Jonathan. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:02:26 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
Dilligard says she was interviewed by the FBI. Listened to 911 call screams, too. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:03:31 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36s
Dilligard on 911 screams: "I would say that it was" #GeorgeZimmerman. "I've only heard George talk," not #TrayvonMartin. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:04:31 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
O'Mara is now asking if Dilligard recognizes the screaming voice in the Lauer 911 call.  She identified it as #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
O'Mara is asking the witnesses about the first time she heard the Lauer 911 tape. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Dilligard was interviewed by federal agents. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:07:53 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
They're now showing Dilligard aerial shot of neighborhood. At least trying to. Tech not cooperating. O'Mara moves on. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:08:08 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
O'Mara is (attempting) to show Dilligard an aerial photo taken of the neighborhood.  Doesn't seem to be working with FaceTime. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Dilligard: #ZimmermanOn9 has a light, male voice.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Dilligard knew #ZimmermanOn9 for 2 and half years at the time of the shooting.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:10:32 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  5m 
Dilligard: "He (Zimmerman) has a light male voice."
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Dilligard says she has heard the 911 call 2 or 3 times. She first heard it on local TV news. She is 8th person to say it's #GeorgeZimmerman

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Dilligard says she's only heard voice of Zimmerman but believe he is the one screaming in the 911 call.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 04:12:25 PM
Was OMaras point that she doesn't know the streets names either?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
De la Rionda highlights that Dilligard has not heard voice of #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
De la Rionda is up for cross.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
If Dilligard is the defense's last witness, they would have called 15 witnesses compared to the state's 38 witnesses.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Dilligard did testify that she had never heard #TrayvonMartin's voice. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
O'Mara is not going to re-direct.  He thanks Dilligard's time and from doing the testimony from home. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
BDLR is now cross-examining Dillagard. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Eloise Dilligard is done testifying.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:18:50 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Attorneys now at sidebar. Debate about the defense animation that started earlier could resume shortly. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
BDLR uses brief cross exam to ask Dilligard again if she'd ever heard #TrayvonMartin's voice. She says no. Excused. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Some confusion in testimony on which steet Dilligard saw #GeorgeZimmerman's truck on. Ultimately said near Lauer townhome. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:22:24 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43m
#GeorgeZimmerman apparently will not testify. This itness is defense's last, O'Mara says. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Nikki Nikki ‏@frontroyalgirl 6m
@JeffWeinerOS has the prosecution cross examined any of the defense witnesses today? Sorry just getting on trying 2 catch up

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@frontroyalgirl The prosecution cross examined  all of them.
 
1:17 PM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details

 Nikki Nikki ‏@frontroyalgirl 5m
@JeffWeinerOS thank you, much appreciated


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:23:39 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Jury to return 9 a.m. Lawyers not done today. Still have to settle defense animation issue. 10 min recess. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Jury is being released for the day early. Nelson giving standard no-media admonition. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmemanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:25:37 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Jury is being dismissed for the day; they will return tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:27:27 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Vietnam combat medic & #GeorgeZimmerman friend, said he's sure screams were GZ. RT @talktoataxman: what is his significance?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@1stLADYFU Here's a link: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz
 View conversation

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
According to reports, Donnelly was in court at times before his testimony, a violation of witness sequestration. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Nelson said lawyers will also be in court 8 a.m. tomorrow (earliest so far) to talk about defense witness John Donnelly. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:29:44 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39s
Exception for victim's next of kin. RT @mmchelj: why were the Martin's allowed in but no others?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@WFTV has a Donnelly-in-court pic ---> RT @KBelichWFTV: June 25 pic.twitter.com/jwGhuXpox0 (http://pic.twitter.com/jwGhuXpox0)
 View photo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:36:03 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Tomorrow we're starting  at 8 a.m. with a hearing about John Donnelly who says he's sure Zimmerman was the one screaming.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Jury is released as attorneys ready for hearing on computer animation.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  14m 
We are taking a 10 min recess.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 04:39:26 PM
Ike Agwunobi ?@VisionisRight2 22s
He thought he did something good for his community by killing him. NO! Trayvon is a mortar now  #zimmermantrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Exception for victim's next of kin. RT @mmchelj: why were the Martin's allowed in but no others?

 Tony HarmonTony Harmon ‏@Grixx 9m
@JeffWeinerOS @mmchelj Actually it's because TM was a minor...

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@Grixx @mmchelj No, it's not. Florida constitution says all homicide victims entitled to representation (see "b"): http://bit.ly/1am2HDK

1:34 PM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:39:54 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  33s 
Meanwhile, Documents in Hernandez investigation unsealed http://usat.ly/16nTXp1  via @USATODAY
View summary      Reply 
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
O'Mara just said he has a few more witnesses left. Dilligard is only the last witness for the day.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:46:19 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets Cont
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: How many times testified in criminal court, in front of jury? Schumaker: 17. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Court back in session, Mantei questioning Schumaker, who made defense's animation. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:47:15 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11s 
Daniel Shumaker is going thru his trial resume. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Court back in session.  Hearing on the animation reenactment video. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2013, 04:48:09 PM
Posting, useless information. (IMO) The jury must be non-smoker's, IMO.
The Juror's, pass-up breaks, in order to speed-up the case. IMO


 ::MonkeyEek::


Hi Muffy ::bee::

I think the jurors are self-disciplined, focused, and determined, IMO.  IDK, if I needed to really note that info.  Oh! a smoker will take every oppurtunity to puff :)  To refuse a break means one of two thing, they do not puff, or just a few puffers. Perhaps they are getting cabin fever.
 ::MonkeyEek::



(Bolded by me)
What do you mean, Seahorse?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 04:49:52 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Schumaker says he's testified twice--including this case--about fights between people. He usually does shootings.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Schumaker says he's testified 17 times before a jury and each time there's been a pre-trial hearing.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Mantei is crossing Schumaker about the computer animation he created of the shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Court is back in session.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:52:10 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Mantei: How often have you simulated fight for jury? Schumaker: Twice, including this case. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:54:52 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: You don't know how software works, couldn't tell if not working? Schumaker: I could tell if it wasn't working. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei: This 1st time used suit for testimony on fight like this? Schumaker: "With this close contact, yes." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Mantei: Last case like this? Schumaker: "Greenberg" case, ex cop shot someone in a vehicle. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 04:55:56 PM
Posting, useless information. (IMO) The jury must be non-smoker's, IMO.
The Juror's, pass-up breaks, in order to speed-up the case. IMO


 ::MonkeyEek::


Hi Muffy ::bee::

I think the jurors are self-disciplined, focused, and determined, IMO.  IDK, if I needed to really note that info.  Oh! a smoker will take every oppurtunity to puff :)  To refuse a break means one of two thing, they do not puff, or just a few puffers. Perhaps they are getting cabin fever.
 ::MonkeyEek::



(Bolded by me)
What do you mean, Seahorse?
Remember the "special recesses" that Judge Perry gave during the anthony trial? With a wink giving them smoke breaks in a no smoking building. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei: Did you measure arms of reconstruction stand-ins? Schumaker: "I didn't measure their arms." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Schumaker: Used "relative size" people to approximate #GeorgeZimmerman & #TrayvonMartin. GZ model was 5-foot-8, TM 5-foot-11.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:00:28 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
Schumaker says he incorporated testimony from witnesses Lauer, Good & Mora into animation. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:01:38 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25s
Judge Nelson: Animation has to be based on trial testimony & evidence. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:02:13 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Schumaker said he took into account statements of John Good, Selma Mora and Jennifer Lauer.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Just a reminder the jury is gone for the day. The parents of #TrayvonMartin and de la Rionda are also gone.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Schumaker says he adjusted the animation based on what lawyers of #GeorgeZimmerman told him.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Schumaker says size and weight of people aren't important for animation. He didn't measure them and couldn't say how much they weighed.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Schumaker says he used 2 men that were about the same size of #TrayvonMartin and #GeorgeZimmerman to recreate fight in motion capture suits

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Schumaker says this is the first time he's testifying about a rolling fight and using motion capture suits for recreating of such a fight


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
Schumaker says he animated start of #GeorgeZimmerman & #TrayvonMartin fight based on Lauer. Mantei notes: She didn't see, only heard.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:04:25 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Shumaker: I used Lauer's statement for animation. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Schumaker says he adjusted his animation based on what #GeorgeZimmerman's attorneys told him. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
Shumaker used body doubles for the animation video.  He found people of similar height, but did not measure their arms. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:05:11 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Schumaker: Don't know what's been testified to in trial, "I was not allowed to watch the trial." #GeorgeZimmerman #zimmermantrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Schumaker: I used Lauer's statement for animation. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Mantie to Schumaker: evidence/testimony - I'm asking what has happened during this trial (in the courtroom). #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:07:23 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Schumaker: Animation matches court testimony. "It's been adjusted to testimony in court." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:08:48 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  38s 
Mantei says Schumaker animation doesn't show how fight started just shows two people standing face to face.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Mantei presses Schumaker on whether animation reflects evidence jury has seen and heard. Schumaker says yes though he wasn't seen trial

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Schumaker says he incorporated Jennifer Lauer's testimony to the jury. Says she "pin pointed" where fight starts. Mantei says she didn't.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:11:14 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Schumaker: Animation moves from one "witnessed event" to next. Didn't try to fill in gaps. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Made no effort to approximate lighting on night of shooting? Schumaker agrees.  Says witnesses can testify to that. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:15:39 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Schumaker: Lauer 911 call was used as reference and so was Good's written statement. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Schumaker: the lighting in the animation is not a correct represetantaion of the light that night (night of shooting). #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Schumaker: the animation contains artificial light. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
@RockHeavy2 Bernie de la Rionda, state attorney. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:17:47 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Schumaker's video contains artificial light and does not replicate the lighting during fight. Showing details is most important, he says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Schumaker wasn't allowed to watch trial but says his animation reflects what the jury has heard & seen & is based on infor from GZ's lawyers


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:17:54 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Sentinel's cameras snapped pic 6/25 appearing to show Donnelly in court. Top right, over #GeorgeZimmerman's shoulder pic.twitter.com/6JUCiS4P8A (http://pic.twitter.com/6JUCiS4P8A)


https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354710457245904897/photo/1
(http://i.imgur.com/nL8z33t.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:19:55 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Schumaker acknowledges he relied on witnesses' estimations of where they were when. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@Stephen6907 Thanks!!
 View conversation

 Stephen K. ArmstrongStephen K. Armstrong ‏@Stephen6907 4m
@JeffWeinerOS Jeff- you've been doing a GREAT JOB!  I've been able to keep up to date while in court by reading your tweets!
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: Animation depicts things not said in court. Schumaker: Relied on 911 audio, consultation with the attorneys. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Schumaker has figures and John Good doing actions during 911 call by Lauer. Mantei says it's not possible to do that.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:22:39 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36s
Mantei says animation "purported to be more accurate" than evidence, "estimation, upon estimation, upon estimation."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:23:05 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  9m 
Sentinel's cameras snapped pic 6/25 appearing to show Donnelly in court. Top right, over #GeorgeZimmerman's shoulder pic.twitter.com/6JUCiS4P8A
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
   View photo      Reply 

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Schumaker: The animation was created based on witness statements and evidence given to him by Zimmerman's attorneys.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2013, 05:23:50 PM
Posting, useless information. (IMO) The jury must be non-smoker's, IMO.
The Juror's, pass-up breaks, in order to speed-up the case. IMO


 ::MonkeyEek::


Hi Muffy ::bee::

I think the jurors are self-disciplined, focused, and determined, IMO.  IDK, if I needed to really note that info.  Oh! a smoker will take every oppurtunity to puff :)  To refuse a break means one of two thing, they do not puff, or just a few puffers. Perhaps they are getting cabin fever.
 ::MonkeyEek::



(Bolded by me)
What do you mean, Seahorse?
Remember the "special recesses" that Judge Perry gave during the anthony trial? With a wink giving them smoke breaks in a no smoking building. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:23:58 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16s
Mantei notes that after Good left vantage point, animation still shows figures on ground. Schumaker: Based on Di Maio. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:25:40 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
According to reports, Donnelly was in court at times before his testimony, a violation of witness sequestration. #ZimmermanTrial

 LoveleeLovelee ‏@lovelee_ladee 1m
@JeffWeinerOS His testimony stands, right?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s
@lovelee_ladee They're going to argue that tomorrow.
 
2:26 PM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 09, 2013, 05:30:29 PM
George is gonna walk.

Then the riots will begin.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 05:35:33 PM
George is gonna walk.

Then the riots will begin.
As with the other riots it will be just a cover to loot.@Wide screens and Jordans for Trayvon


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:38:36 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Schumaker: Gun position not the purpose of the animation. Didn't include bullet trajectory either. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Mantei shows Schumaker deposition. Apparently said he made decision to leave gun out of animation after "consultation w/the attorneys."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@vadulak You're welcome! Thanks for following.
 View conversation

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Mantei: Sure positioning is accurate? Schumaker: According to Di Maio, "that's the position that they're in." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Mantei: You set body positions to match #GeorgeZimmerman defense theory? Schumaker: No, Di Maio's theory. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:38:39 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Schumaker says he decided not to put the gun in the animation after consulting with lawyers of #GeorgeZimmerman

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
Schumaker says he talked to Di Maio last week for 20 minutes and then changed the animation based on that conversation.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 09, 2013, 05:39:54 PM
George is gonna walk.

Then the riots will begin.
As with the other riots it will be just a cover to loot.@Wide screens and Jordans for Trayvon


Yep


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: jamcakes on July 09, 2013, 05:40:38 PM
I just saw a commercial from Broward County Sheriff urging people not to riot.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:42:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 45s
Mantei: Estimated how far shell casing traveled? Schumaker agrees, many variables. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:45:59 PM
I just saw a commercial from Broward County Sheriff urging people not to riot.

http://www.sheriff.org/posts/post.cfm?id=bf1326e0-d238-0577-7446-a3a4ca5438d3
UPDATED - RAISE YOUR VOICE, NOT YOUR HANDS
36 second video



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: seahorse on July 09, 2013, 05:46:33 PM
GZ reminds me of George Costanza, remember him? ::MonkeyHaHa::

Amys Sister, mentioned the Cap & Gown, something, George Costanza would do! IMO!



 ::MonkeyWink::

My opinion on Georgie  :smt054


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 05:46:35 PM
I just saw a commercial from Broward County Sheriff urging people not to riot.

http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html?article=11466843


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:46:50 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson interrupts, asks to see relevant portions of animation as Mantei questions Schumaker on specifics. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
Pretty sure that around the DAs office Manteis' nickname is "the Weasel"


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:52:24 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The animation is being displayed in the courtroom right now. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
Judge Nelson would prefer to watch the animation as to better understand the Q&A of the witness (Schumaker). #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Schumaker does admit that there are many variables that need to be considered. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
@jdbrown198462 The jury has been dismissed from the courtroom for the day.
View conversation   


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:54:36 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39m
Sentinel's cameras snapped pic 6/25 appearing to show Donnelly in court. Top right, over #GeorgeZimmerman's shoulder pic.twitter.com/6JUCiS4P8A (http://pic.twitter.com/6JUCiS4P8A)
 
 Susan Lind-KanneSusan Lind-Kanne ‏@lindkanne 9m
@JeffWeinerOS @Yamiche What does this mean? Isn't he suppose to be there at that time?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@lindkanne No, not allowed to be in court before his testimony. That's the issue they're going to argue tomorrow.

2:48 PM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:57:01 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Screengrab: Animation shown on overhead projector. Schumaker cross examination continues. #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/Np6udCJ9Zn (http://pic.twitter.com/Np6udCJ9Zn)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354719223152529408/photo/1

(http://i.imgur.com/i125ZCd.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 05:57:53 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Schumaker's animation includes a depiction of one figure punching another. Mantei takes issue with that as well.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Mantei for the last hour has tried to make the point that Schumaker's video doesn't have details about the shooting and is inaccurate

Christina Vazquez Christina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports  8m 
Finally seeing the animation we've been hearing about all day. pic.twitter.com/XvC427Zfox
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
   View photo     

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Animation shows sidewalk, grass, trees, and where body of #TrayvonMartin was found.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Animation was just displayed on projector. Animation looks like a computer video game.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
Judge Nelson says she wants to put up animation so she can see exactly which positions Schumaker is testifying about.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:58:32 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Schumaker says used #GeorgeZimmerman reenactment for initial part of animation (sidewalk T), then relied on other witnesses. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 05:59:29 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
@True_Thoughts They just showed a still frame from it (I tweeted a screengrab). Thats's all I've seen of it.
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei continues to emphasize when Schumaker had to rely on estimation, stand-ins, etc. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:02:23 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei follows up: What you know of court testimony came from attorneys? Schumaker agrees. #ZimmemanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Schumaker: Animation based on evidence, reports, witness statements, "not solely based on what an attorney told me to do." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 06:03:24 PM
"Mantei for the last hour has tried to make the point that Schumaker's video doesn't have details about the shooting and is inaccurate"

Just like the states case against Z


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:03:39 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
O'Mara: Suit "generally accepted in your industry" to capture motion? Schumaker: Yes, most accurate method. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara now on redirect. Suit is "next generation" of mocap suits? Schumaker: "Correct," data is "cleaner." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 06:10:33 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39m
Sentinel's cameras snapped pic 6/25 appearing to show Donnelly in court. Top right, over #GeorgeZimmerman's shoulder pic.twitter.com/6JUCiS4P8A (http://pic.twitter.com/6JUCiS4P8A)
 
 Susan Lind-KanneSusan Lind-Kanne ‏@lindkanne 9m
@JeffWeinerOS @Yamiche What does this mean? Isn't he suppose to be there at that time?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@lindkanne No, not allowed to be in court before his testimony. That's the issue they're going to argue tomorrow.

2:48 PM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details

IIRC, any other witnesses were asked to leave--after Crump and GZ's parents were asked to leave the courtroom.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/24/prosecutors-defense-set-to-make-opening-statements-in-george-zimmerman-trial/
Prosecutors push to admit non-emergency calls on second day of Zimmerman murder trial
Published June 25, 2013

Quote
Before Guy and West gave their statements, Zimmerman's family was asked to leave the courtroom.

Martin's family was seen inside the courtroom earlier Monday sitting next to their lawyer, Benjamin Crump. Zimmerman's mother, father and wife also were present, but were later escorted out after prosecution lawyers invoked sequestration rules, which bar witnesses from courtroom proceedings until the state concludes the case.

Zimmerman's defense team responded by asking Circuit Judge Debra Nelson to order the Martin family and Crump to leave, but they were allowed to stay. Defense attorney Mark O'Mara argued with Nelson over the decision, calling it "prejudicial."

West said in his opening statement that the Zimmerman family members were not allowed in the courtroom because they are not related to the deceased and may testify, as they are on the witness list.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:11:34 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Schumaker says he used several witness statements, including Lauer & Surdyka, to place initial confrontation. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Schumaker: I like to start work on animation "as far ahead of trial as I can." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: Changed based on info I gave from trial? DS: Yes, "whole purpose of it is to get it as accurate as possible." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara: Animations usually made before trial, with available evidence? Schumaker: "Yes, they are." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:12:43 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19s
O'Mara: Is there "inherent estimation" necessary for any reconstruction animation? Schumaker: "Correct." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 06:14:36 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
O'Mara is up asking questions about motion capture suits.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
Mantei is done with questions for Schumaker for now.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Schumaker says the animation accurately depicts how one person punches another. It relies on evidence and not just what lawyers told him.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
OT The sun has set over the yardarm.   ::monkeywine2::   ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:21:41 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Screengrab: O'Mara plays "T-intersection event" from animation. #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/41lK4kvxiu (http://pic.twitter.com/41lK4kvxiu)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354726385392173057/photo/1


(http://i.imgur.com/spvDba5.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Animation has #TrayvonMartin throwing 1st punch. Schumaker says that part's based on #GeorgeZimmerman's reenactment. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
In animation, #TrayvonMartin figure approaches & punches the #GeorgeZimmerman figure in the face. GZ figure driven back. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29s
Nelson: Good's call-connect a "known time," asks "did you use that?" Schumaker: "I used his estimation." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: John Good also called 911. Used in animation? Schumaker: "There was no gunshot" in that call. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 06:27:58 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Judge Nelson asking Schumaker whether he used John Good's 911 call in animation. Schumaker says he used Good's estimation of when he called

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
In animation, Trayvon walks up to Zimmerman and punches him.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Schumaker's depiction of Trayvon approaching Zimmerman is based on Zimmerman's statement in walk-thru to police.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Animation shows #TrayvonMartin with hoodie lifted covering his head and approaching Zimmerman from Zimmerman's left side.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Animation still being played.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
Animation is being played. It shows #TrayvonMartin walking up to #GeorgeZimmerman as Zimmerman walks in the direction of his car.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:31:07 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nelson: "I don't understand" where Good timeline in animation "is coming from." Gave general times on witness stand. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 06:33:48 PM
OT The sun has set over the yardarm.   ::monkeywine2::   ::bee::

 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 06:36:16 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Nelson says she doesn't want this hearing to go another day. She does have concerns about Lauer 911 call being overlaid with Good's actions

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Nelson says Good never said what time he walked inside but animation has him doing things at specific times.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Judge Nelson is asking why Jennifer Lauer's 911 call is being matched with John Good's actions.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:36:42 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Mantei tells Nelson she's on point: "There is no hard and fast ability" to say animation is accurate. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Per Nelson's notes: Good testified 1st sounds heard 7:05, 7:15. Only watched stuggle 8-10 secs. O'Mara: Call connected 7:17. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:39:24 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jorge K Gonzalez ‏@jorgekgonzalez 2m
Another portion of the animation was just played. #fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
No, jury left court for the evening about 4:20 p.m. RT @savvy_esq: @JeffWeinerOS Is the jury in there?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 06:40:03 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Animation also shows Trayvon, in hoodie, on top of Zimmerman seemingly holding Zimmerman down on ground.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Animation played again. It depicts John Good walking outside and seeing Trayvon on top of Zimmerman with Trayvon's back to Good.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:44:42 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 6m
Judge just pointed out a possible violation of sequestration rule by Schumaker consulting with John Good account via O'Mara.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 06:45:25 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
In animation, gunshot is heard as Trayvon leans over Zimmerman. Next, after shot, Zimmerman is on top of Trayvon.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower  7m 
Judge just pointed out a possible violation of sequestration rule by Schumaker consulting with John Good account via O'Mara


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:49:49 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Screengrab: Animation of John Good's vantage point. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/DE9ulMxSgZ (http://pic.twitter.com/DE9ulMxSgZ)




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:51:02 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Screengrab: Another position from animation. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/nbQZG6T0ba (http://pic.twitter.com/nbQZG6T0ba)

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Screengrab: Animation of later position, again from Good's vantage. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/AqMmkc4iLA (http://pic.twitter.com/AqMmkc4iLA)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:51:40 PM
Sorry monks, I'm having trouble posting the pics.  I'll try to go back later and see if I can post them.   ::buzzbee2::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:52:14 PM
You can click on the pic link in the tweet and see them.   ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 06:53:51 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Mantei back up from cross.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:54:16 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@TheFlaCracker As Nelson said during that exchange, Good is not an expert witness.
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei's up for recross of Schumaker as 7 p.m. approaches. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Interesting earlier: Nelson suggested O'Mara violated witness sequestration, showing John Good animation to verify its accuracy.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara calls #GeorgeZimmerman & #TrayvonMartin figures "avatars." Schumaker: I adjusted to match size & clothing. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
O'Mara: Not matching lighting from night of shooting intentional, so viewers could see better? Schumaker: Yes. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Screengrab: "After shot position" #GeorgeZimmerman on #TrayvonMartin's back. Based on Mora, DS says. #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/mUrt0yxmVb (http://pic.twitter.com/mUrt0yxmVb)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 06:56:32 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei suggests Schumaker changed avatar positions to make #GeorgeZimmerman's access to gun mesh with "mounting" account. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Magnolia on July 09, 2013, 06:59:29 PM


What reason did GZ give for getting out of his vehicle and going after TM?  I know the dispatcher told
him to stay in his vehicle.  That is the crux of the whole matter to me.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: klaasend on July 09, 2013, 07:00:30 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Screengrab: Another position from animation. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/nbQZG6T0ba (http://pic.twitter.com/nbQZG6T0ba)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOxDdxqCMAID-Ob.jpg:large)

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Screengrab: Animation of later position, again from Good's vantage. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/AqMmkc4iLA (http://pic.twitter.com/AqMmkc4iLA)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOxDP0_CEAAzC5u.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:01:59 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Schumaker done testifying. Time for argument on animation. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Schumaker: Animation "isn't to examine the bullet trajectory," it's "position of Mr. Martin on top" consistent w/Di Maio. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:02:59 PM
Thank you for posting the pics Klaas!   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
@PrettyInChrist I'm in court but you can watch @USATODAY  http://usat.ly/123GbGE
View conversation     

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Nelson: Let's begin arguments.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Schumaker is done testifying and leaves with his roller bag, computer and water.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Schumaker says the purpose of the video is not to show bullet trajectory but to show the position of bodies and Trayvon on top of Zimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:05:00 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Latest version of video based on trial testimony, "most up to date testimony available." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: Schumaker "presented many many times," I'd suggest has been "generally accepted." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: "Underlying foundation" of animation "has been admitted in courts a lot." Schumaker never disqualified as expert.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:06:29 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: Where's testimony that #TrayvonMartin's punch was left handed? O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman's injuries support that. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:07:34 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 48s
#TrayvonMartin's mother testified TM is right handed, Nelson notes. O'Mara says physical evidence supports lefty strike. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Animation showed a left-handed punch. O'Mara adds that state expert Dr. Rao also said face injury was left-to-right. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:08:55 PM


July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
Interesting moment: O'Mara uses opposing counsel Mantei to demostrate righty-vs-lefty punch. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:14:09 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@jasonsickles Thanks!

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Pic of Mantei-vs-O'Mara punch demonstration --> RT @jasonsickles: @JeffWeinerOS pic.twitter.com/ReyJXiUBWu (http://pic.twitter.com/ReyJXiUBWu)

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson: Notes don't indicate Lauer saw anything, DS used her to put initial conflict at T? O'Mara: "She says she heard." #ZimmermanTrial

https://twitter.com/jasonsickles/status/354739773707005952/photo/1

(http://i.imgur.com/6yEO7Pa.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:15:44 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Lauer said in cross-ex "that it happened in the area of the T-intersection." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@DianeAx Thanks! Yep, I'll be tweeting tomorrow morning too.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: Lauer used for position based on "where she heard it (noises) come from." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 07:16:38 PM


What reason did GZ give for getting out of his vehicle and going after TM?  I know the dispatcher told
him to stay in his vehicle.  That is the crux of the whole matter to me.

Magnolia, the following article might be helpful in answering your question/concerns:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/in-busting-zimmerman-myths-jonathan-capehart-perpetuates-the-greatest-myth-of-all/
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Posted by William A. Jacobson    Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 9:22am


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:16:43 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
O'Mara: "no evidence to support anything but" what Good saw. Also included Di Maio. Acknowledges it is "estimation." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 07:19:39 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
Mantei fake punches O'Mara for demonstration. Mantei looked happy.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Nelson asking why animation shows Trayvon punching Zimmerman with his left hand when Trayvon is right handed


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jorge K Gonzalez ‏@jorgekgonzalez 1m
In case you're wondering, we're still live with the Zimmerman trial on #fox35.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Caselaw doesn't require a "perfect frame by frame rendition" to be admissible. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: Court has already allowed state's timeline graphic as a visual aid, "That's exactly what an animation is." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara argues animation "would in fact assist the trier of fact (jury)" in understanding what happened between GZ & TM. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:22:18 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei on animation: It's a "supposition inside a riddle, wrapped in an enigma." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@irasiegel Could be. Possible could be used as demonstrative aid, even if not admitted as evidence.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 07:23:55 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  20s 
Angela Corey is back.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Nelson is expressing concerns including Lauer's testimony of what she heard being used to depict whether the fight started.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
State Attorney Angela Corey just left the courtroom. The trial and courtroom hearings have been going for more than 11 hours as of right now


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 07:26:14 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Mantei now arguing against animation. He's focusing on Schumaker never having re-created such a fight for a case before.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara basically says the animation doesn't have to be perfect but can show jurors what witnesses may have seen.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:27:30 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29s
Nelson: If allowed as demonstrative aid, same argument? Mantei: Standard "much higher" if evidence, would object either way. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei citing from caselaw. Says court may find "analytical gap" too large to admit. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartiN #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Mantei: Schumaker "has never testified before" about this type of case, w/ this technology. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Magnolia on July 09, 2013, 07:29:25 PM


What reason did GZ give for getting out of his vehicle and going after TM?  I know the dispatcher told
him to stay in his vehicle.  That is the crux of the whole matter to me.

Magnolia, the following article might be helpful in answering your question/concerns:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/in-busting-zimmerman-myths-jonathan-capehart-perpetuates-the-greatest-myth-of-all/
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Posted by William A. Jacobson    Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 9:22am



Thank you, Grace-land!!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: If defense wants "something like this" in closing, not a big issue. Says witnesses testified without needing it. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:32:55 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17s
Mantei: Lefty punch in animation an assumption. "It is not hard for a right handed person to punch somone" on left of nose. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei says there's been no testimony method is peer-reviewed, or as to its error rate. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: Tech not established as science. "What we've heard is they use it for the movies. Great. This is a murder trial." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 07:34:51 PM


What reason did GZ give for getting out of his vehicle and going after TM?  I know the dispatcher told
him to stay in his vehicle.  That is the crux of the whole matter to me.

Magnolia, the following article might be helpful in answering your question/concerns:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/in-busting-zimmerman-myths-jonathan-capehart-perpetuates-the-greatest-myth-of-all/
In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all
Posted by William A. Jacobson    Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 9:22am



Thank you, Grace-land!!

You're welcome, Magnolia!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Lefty punch in animation an assumption. "It is not hard for a right handed person to punch somone" on left of nose. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei says there's been no testimony method is peer-reviewed, or as to its error rate. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Mantei: Tech not established as science. "What we've heard is they use it for the movies. Great. This is a murder trial." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:36:27 PM
Sorry for the double post, I got distracted. 



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 09, 2013, 07:36:55 PM
I do not think that the animation will b allowed.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:37:34 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Defense using Schumaker for argument, that's "not the proper subject of expert testimony." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Mantei on why motion capture suits and animation as a whole shouldn't be admitted: "This is not Iron Man." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 07:44:31 PM
DAMMIT! I agree with Mantei , bullets and cars are one thing,, it can't do people. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:46:11 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Mantei: Opinions in animation "are not of Mr. Schumaker," they're Di Maio's, who already testified without needing it. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 07:47:35 PM
I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

bbm

It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:47:57 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: How does animation assist expert in testimony? O'Mara: "Animation itself is substantive evidence. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@Dolphin2424 Yup, 8 a.m.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei: If ani used, Court should craft "significantly strong admonishment to the jury," warning not meant to be accurate. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:49:10 PM
I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

bbm

It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.


BBM

I really wondered about that.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:50:19 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara notes in-court demos he's done w/witnesses. Nelson: But "jury's not taking that back with them... to play over & over & over again."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara again mentions state's timeline, which is already in. Nelson: "But your animation does more than a timeline." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 07:50:59 PM
I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

bbm

It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.

It's a few facts with big holes filled in by a computer program and Schumaker


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:51:33 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson says animation uses Schumaker's common sense, assumption #TrayvonMartin used left hand for punch, not just evidence. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:52:50 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara says it's "a given" that animation could be used in closing argument, but wants it in evidence. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 07:54:06 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 46s
Nelson says she's reluctant to admit as evidence, mentions again concept of jury in deliberations watching it over & over. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:04:19 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Aura Bogado ‏@aurabogado 2m
The #zimmermantrial is going so late tonight, the lights literally went out in the courtroom. Here's Judge Nelson: pic.twitter.com/ioxcwAIEbq (http://pic.twitter.com/ioxcwAIEbq)
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Judge Nelson isn't ruling tonight on admissibility of defense animation. #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Next issue: Def witness who plans to testify about info on #TrayvonMartin's phone. Nelson wants to know what info. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei still arguing as lights go off (timer). Mantei on Schumaker: "He hasn't heard a word" of court testimony. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Mantei: Everything in state's timeline is in evidence, not true of #GeorgeZimmerman defense animation. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Nelson suggests she won't rule tonight, mentioned she needs to read caselaw. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:05:23 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West reading #TrayvonMartin texts & Facebook posts about fighting. Defense apparently will try to get them into #ZimmermanTrial tomorrow.


 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@theaclporg Defense's computer animation shooting scene reconstruction. Read my earlier tweets for info.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:07:05 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West says defense's witness found "hidden text messages," "hidden Facebook post" about fighting. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 08:07:36 PM
State will argue all night to keep these out if needed. these let Z walk out dancing.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:07:58 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: #TrayvonMartin texted about 3-round fight. Half-brother asked on Facebook when TM could teach him how to fight. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 08:09:47 PM
I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

bbm

It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.

It's a few facts with big holes filled in by a computer program and Schumaker

However, it helps visualize the general activity of GZ and TM.  I will be very surprised if the judge permits the video.

I think that the prosecution wants the jurors to believe that GZ followed TM until the verbal/physical alternation happened.  The video shows GZ walking at the T to his vehicle, and TM backtracking to the T.  jmo
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:11:12 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s
Guy: "How do we know what whoever wrote this is talking about?" Could be verbal fight, "completely mislead the jury." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West also mentions #TrayvonMartin "trying to acquire" a firearm before Sanford trip. Prosecutor Guy to argue for state. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:12:22 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 45s
Guy on #TrayvonMartin texts: "There's no context to them... completely misleading & therefore it shouldn't be allowed." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

bbm

It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.

It's a few facts with big holes filled in by a computer program and Schumaker

However, it helps visualize the general activity of GZ and TM.  I will be very surprised if the judge permits the video.

I think that the prosecution wants the jurors to believe that GZ followed TM until the verbal/physical alternation happened.  The video shows GZ walking at the T to his vehicle, and TM backtracking to the T.  jmo
 

Respectfully Grace, to me it only seems proper for closing.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 08:12:58 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Trayvon texted about bloodying someone in a fight and about going for several rounds, West says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Don West says a witness will testify about texts Trayvon sent about wanting to buy a gun and about being in fights.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Next issue being discussed is about a defense witness testifying about information found on Trayvon's phone.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  12m 
Nelson says she will reserve ruling on the animation until 8 a.m. when court reconvenes.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  16m 
Nelson says she has to read case law and decide whether the animation will be admitted. Mantei continues arguments.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:16:13 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: Guy "misses the point... this isn't reputation evidence," shows "physical capabilities... knowledge of fighting." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 08:17:03 PM
I don't get all this trouble, the video sucks.

bbm

It helps the defense?  The state is fighting hard to keep it out.  imo
The defense wanted to take the jury to the site of the incident, but the judge denied the request.

It's a few facts with big holes filled in by a computer program and Schumaker

However, it helps visualize the general activity of GZ and TM.  I will be very surprised if the judge permits the video.

I think that the prosecution wants the jurors to believe that GZ followed TM until the verbal/physical alternation happened.  The video shows GZ walking at the T to his vehicle, and TM backtracking to the T.  jmo
 

Respectfully Grace, to me it only seems proper for closing.

I'm sure that the defense will include it in its closing.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:17:35 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20s
Connor is local, based in Winter Park. His website: http://bit.ly/13zWpxM  ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Defense's witness, computer forensic consultant Richard Connor, called to testify for judge. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:18:51 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@N8K8Mom Asked for & granted permission to leave court for 10 minutes.
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Connor is local, based in Winter Park. His website: http://bit.ly/13zWpxM  ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:20:03 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@LadyBugz528 Waived appearance for now. Not uncommon during a hearing like this when jury isn't present.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:21:54 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor testifies he is certified in Cellebrite, software used to search #TrayvonMartin's phone. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor says he identified texts & Facebook posts on .bin file from #TrayvonMartin's phone. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 08:23:49 PM
State said "We don't know if these text referred to "play fights" 


"a-hole" means racist, muderous intent.


But, texts of fights COULD mean "play fights"



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 08:24:01 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Richard Connor is now testifying. He is the one who found texts on Trayvon's phone about purchasing a gun and fights,  Don West says.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:24:41 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#GeorgeZimmerman returns to court as testimony continues on #TrayvonMartin's cell phone. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:25:56 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor: .bin file contains "all the data, all the files." Found info not in report turned over by state. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor: .bin file contains "all the data, all the files." Found info not in report turned over by state. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

So this is what Connor came across  after Tracy Martin refused to give the lock code to TM's phone?  From what I understand, it's very difficult to get everything off a lock coded phone.  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor: State's 1st & 2nd report didn't have missing #TrayvonMartin photos. Later FDLE report had some, but turned over right before trial.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:29:46 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Danny Morales ‏@Danny_Morales_ 1m
Connor says that his extensive search found the photos of a gun in #TrayvonMartin's phone that FDLE didn't find. #ZimmermanTrial
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@LadyBugz528 That's not how admissibility works.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:30:49 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor: Texts on phone "where Mr. Martin was either trying to purchase or sell a handgun." Also pics of hand w/gun. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:32:25 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Kris10 ‏@LadyBugz528 5m
@JeffWeinerOS If Trayvon's history is allowed into evidence will GZ's record be allowed in?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@LadyBugz528 That's not how admissibility works.

 Kris10 Kris10 ‏@LadyBugz528 3m
@JeffWeinerOS Why would his record not be admissible?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@LadyBugz528 Not saying it isn't. But what's let in on each person's background doesn't determine admissibility of the other's.

5:32 PM - 9 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:34:01 PM


July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor says texts/pics were deleted on purpose. Nelson wouldn't let West ask who deleted, ruled that speculation. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:34:52 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor says #TrayvonMartin's phone was passcode protected, believe it had "default timeout period." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:37:15 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 45s
West: Texts about getting firearm "clustered" around date? Connor: Yes, between 2/18 & 2/22/2012. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:38:30 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Danny Morales ‏@Danny_Morales_ 1m
Connor says #TrayvonMartin had a conversation about a gun with someone named "Diamond." One of Rachel Jeantel's nicknames is Diamond.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@lizisfollowing No, they left a while ago.
 View conversation


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 08:40:45 PM
I hope they can call Spoonhead Jack as a witness


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:43:11 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: Also extracted texts & postings on #TrayvonMartin being in "at least 1 fight?" Connor: Yes. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Connor shown picture from TM's phone, "appears to be" #TrayvonMartin." Selftaken. Can't tell if taken by phone, no metadata. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:44:29 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

FL Courts 18 ‏@PIOFLCourts18 2m
State vs Zimmerman Public Seat Drawing
Total ballots received today- 59
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@CatherineSwan89 Thanks! I'm actually working out of the Sentinel newsroom. @ReneStutzman's in the courtroom
 View conversation

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Connor says he found app on phone designed to hide text messages in separate database. #ZimemrmanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 08:45:21 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Connor says Trayvon had an application called "Super Android" that was designed up hide some text massages on his phone.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
According to Connor, Trayvon was texting about buying a gun on Feb. 18 to 22, 2012.

Richard Hornsby Richard Hornsby ‏@RichardHornsby  10m 
In murder trial I had with Judge Nelson a few years ago, we waited in courtroom until 4 a.m. waiting for verdict.
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
 
Gene Demby (G.D.) Gene Demby (G.D.) ‏@GeeDee215  16m 
If you're not following @Yamiche, who is live-tweeting  the Zimmerman trial from the courtroom, you really should be .
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
   from Washington, DC     

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
Connor says he found text messages with picture of gun and hand on Trayvon's phone that had been deleted.

Local 10 Zimmerman Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman  14m 
"Mr. Martin was trying to purchase a handgun," defense witness Richard Connor said.
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:45:22 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)



Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 58s
Connor: App hid some texts "from the user of the phone," unless "you know how to get to them." 2nd passcode. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:46:32 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42s
Connor: Would need "at least two" codes to get to hidden texts on #TrayvonMartin's phone. 1 to get in phone, 2nd for app. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Connor is explaining how he used Cellebrite to extract & create spreadsheet of texts from #TrayvonMartin's phone. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:54:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17s
Connor testifying about #TrayvonMartin texts. Says TM said he was sore from a fight. Lost 1st round, won the 2nd & 3rd. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 09, 2013, 08:55:13 PM
If the judge allows this guy to testify with these TM's texts, the case is over.

Some one seems to have a propensity to fighting, don't they?



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:57:56 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Danny Morales ‏@Danny_Morales_ 2m
One text to #TrayvonMartin reads "you need to stop fighting bae, for real" could show that he had been in a number of fights in the past.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@sistertoldjah Thanks!!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 08:58:08 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Connor now reading text messages that Trayvon apparently sent to a friend about fighting.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 08:59:37 PM
If the judge allows this guy to testify with these TM's texts, the case is over.



The texts certainly don't show TM in a good light.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 08:59:49 PM
I want the expert Pathologist from earlier to read all the texts


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:06:11 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
@Yamiche This was actually an exchange on FB not in texts.
View conversation      Reply 

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
@suekhi Connor is a defense witness who  found text messages on Trayvon's phone.
View conversation     

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Connor now says someone, possible a brother of Trayvon, texted Trayvon asking Trayvon to text him how to fight.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@janewins1 Thanks!!

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Connor: #TrayvonMartin's half-brother asked on Facebook when TM was going to "teach me how to fight." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Connor testifies he found another text convo from #TrayvonMartin's phone about a fight with rounds. #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Nelson won't let Connor testify that "breed" in #TrayvonMartin text was likely typoed "bleed." Rules that speculation. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:08:49 PM
Jury 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Assistant State Attorney Richard Mantei is up for cross of Connor.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:08:50 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Who's name phone account in? Connor: "I think it was the mother's maybe," family plan. #Zimmerman #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei now cross examining Connor on #TrayvonMartin cell phone records. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jessica GillespieJessica Gillespie ‏@jessilespie 3m
Follow @renestutzman, @JeffWeinerOS, @OSTrayvonMartin and @orlandosentinel -- because apparently court is still in session #zimmermantrial
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@deanne128 Defense likely wants Connor to testify on it tomorrow, if judge lets records into evidence.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:10:01 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 52s
Mantei: Can you tell who's using #TrayvonMartin cell phone when texts typed? Connor: Not there when typed, but appear to all be same person.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: #TrayvonMartin didn't have gun when killed? Connor agrees, based on what he's heard. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:10:31 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Connor says he was not there when texts were typed or when photos were taken.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:12:32 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Anyone with access to phone & app could delete stuff? Connor: "Yes." Can't tell when deleted. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Mantei: Can you tell whether Zimmerman knew about Trayvon's texts? Connor: No. I didn't see anything about Zimmerman in texts.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Connor says he can't tell exactly when text messages were deleted or by whom.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:14:21 PM
July 9  2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: No reason to believe #GeorgeZimmerman knew about #TrayvonMartin's texts? Connor: Nothing about GZ in texts. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:15:20 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
#Trayvon's cell also had porn, says cell expert. #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:15:30 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Connor: Pictures of a hand and a gun were also on a hidden application on Trayvon's phone.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:16:35 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor: 2nd app hid pictures in what looked like French-language application folder. Also needed passcode for that. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:17:19 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  49s 
Connor done testifying. Nelson: Time for arguments.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Connor says there was pornography on Trayvon's phone. Nelson says that's outside of the scope of this hearing.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:20:33 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Because Jeantel had only recently reconnected with #TrayvonMartin, that supports recent texts re fighting were TM's. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: Rachel Jeantel initially denied #TrayvonMartin talked to her about fighting, but later acknowledged. #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Connor excused. #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 09:23:24 PM
I need a better computer chair, 13 hours


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:23:30 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson extends #GeorgeZimmerman's 10 p.m. curfew until 30 minutes after court ends today. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:24:18 PM
I need a better computer chair, 13 hours

 :smt045 :smt045


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:25:18 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West argues Connor should be allowed to testify about #TrayvonMartin's texts on fighting. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 09, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
I need a better computer chair, 13 hours

 :smt045 :smt045

KUDOS to y'all who have been posting the tweets and the case today ... it really has been a long day. Much appreciated.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Texts about #TrayvonMartin fighting meet hearsay exception for "existing mental, emotional, or physical condition" testimony.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2013, 09:29:20 PM
Suspension Permitted In Zimmerman Trial
5:25 pm, May 28th, 2013


During a pre-trial hearing Tuesday afternoon, a Florida judge ruled that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot use the late Trayvon Martin’s alleged prior marijuana use, school suspension, past fighting, personal text messages or pictures during its opening statement in next month’s high-profile second-degree murder trial.

This comes nearly a week after Zimmerman’s lawyer Mark O’Mara made the cable news rounds, showing off new photographs taken from Martin’s cellphone, including a shot of a marijuana plant and an unidentified hand holding a gun:

O’Mara had also claimed his team had obtained text messages in which Martin talks about organized fighting. “He got mo hits cause in da 1st round. He had me on da ground nd I couldn’t do ntn,” reads one text from November 2011. ....

The judge also ruled that she might allow the fact that a small amount of marijuana was found in Martin’s blood the night of the shooting, but only after hearing from experts about the toxicology tests performed on the late teenager. ....

O’Mara also informed the court that his team had obtained video of three fights, two of which include Martin acting as referee. “There is certainly enough evidence,” he told the judge, “that’s going to suggest Trayvon Martin involved himself ongoingly with fighting with other people.”

<snipped>

http://www.mediaite.com/online/judge-rules-whether-trayvons-past-drug-use-and-school-suspension-permitted-in-zimmerman-trial/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:31:32 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Just hit 13 hours in court. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Zimmerman's curfew (usually 10 p.m.) was just extended until 30 minutes after court ends.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:33:10 PM
I need a better computer chair, 13 hours

 :smt045 :smt045

KUDOS to y'all who have been posting the tweets and the case today ... it really has been a long day. Much appreciated.  ::MonkeyDance::

 ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2013, 09:33:14 PM
What is wrong with this picture?  If the background of one is relevant ... it would go without saying that the background of BOTH Martin and Zimmerman would be relevant.  There does appears to be a judicial  double standard regarding the submission of evidence?

Janet


Judge allows George Zimmerman school records into evidence
July 3, 2013


The prosecution in the George Zimmerman murder case introduced his school and medical records into evidence Wednesday, a move aimed at showing that the neighborhood watch volunteer was familiar with self-defense law and had hopes of a career in law enforcement. ...

Judge Debra S. Nelson on Wednesday ruled in favor of a prosecution motion to admit Zimmerman's school records, his job application to a Virginia police agency and his request to the Sanford police to go on a ride-along with officers.

The defense had argued that the records were irrelevant to what happened on the rainy night when Zimmerman and Martin had their clash.

The prosecution is hoping the records and applications will support the theory that Zimmerman was a wannabe cop who became increasingly frustrated by incidents of crime in his gated community. When Zimmerman saw Martin, the prosecution maintains, the neighborhood watch volunteer profiled the teenager, followed him and then had a confrontation that led to Martin being shot to death.

<snipped>

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-murder-school-records-20130703,0,7831562.story


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:33:30 PM
I need a better computer chair, 13 hours

 :smt045 :smt045

KUDOS to y'all who have been posting the tweets and the case today ... it really has been a long day. Much appreciated.  ::MonkeyDance::


 ::MonkeyCool::
I really appreciate you providing a place for us to post Red!  Thank you so much!!  ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:35:21 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Lol. Not cool, man. RT @fotodave: @JeffWeinerOS you're still going? I've won a trivia game, decided on a used car and had X beers!

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Judge to rule on that tomorrow. RT @Preacher11: @JeffWeinerOS Is the anamation person coming into the trial?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
West: Facebook post shows #TrayvonMartin's half-brother though he could fight, could teach to fight. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
West: #TrayvonMartin texted on "how he was able to hit the person in the nose & make their nose bleed." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Here's a link to the hearsay exceptions: http://bit.ly/15v49z3  West using (3). #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
West: Texts about #TrayvonMartin fighting meet hearsay exception for "existing mental, emotional, or physical condition" testimony.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@ozpktoker No, sorry. Needs Flash player.
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: Texts are "compelling evidence in support of Mr. Zimmerman's self defense claim." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
West: #TrayvonMartin "knew what #GeorgeZimmerman would experience" when TM on top of fight, because texts show TM had been on bottom before.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
West: Jury will be asked to decide "who #GeorgeZimmerman was physically... as well as #TrayvonMartin." That includes "knowledge."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:38:53 PM


July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: "This is absolutely compelling evidence & is highly relevant." Not admitting would violate US & FL constitutions. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:40:13 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28s
West done, state's John Guy now arguing. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Jeantel depo testimony #TrayvonMartin talked to her about fighting "closed the loop," authenticating texts were TM. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 09:40:35 PM
OMara the laughing man right there!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:41:01 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 56s
Guy: West's argument "is rank speculation." Makes assumptions about meaning of #TrayvonMartin texts. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:41:52 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57s
Guy on authentication: "We don't know who typed these messages, we don't know if they're connected." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 09, 2013, 09:43:07 PM
I need a better computer chair, 13 hours

 :smt045 :smt045

KUDOS to y'all who have been posting the tweets and the case today ... it really has been a long day. Much appreciated.  ::MonkeyDance::

 ::rhino::   ::MonkeyDance::

I'm very thankful.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:43:40 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43s
Guy: West's inserting things into argument not in texts: "orchestrated fight," "referee," "mounting." #ZImmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West interrupts, asks why Guy's arguing when Mantei cross examined witness. Nelson says to "go ahead." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:44:43 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 56s
Guy: Best photograph of #TrayvonMartin for jury to use is from autopsy, not undated pic from phone. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:46:05 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Guy: The best photo of #TrayvonMartin are the autopsy photos where he's dead. West wants to introduce a picture of Trayvon showing muscles

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Guy: We don't know who typed messages on Trayvon's phone and whether that person was speaking in code.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12m 
West: #TrayvonMartin "knew what #GeorgeZimmerman would experience" when TM on top of fight, because texts show TM had been on bottom before.
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
John Guy says admitting the cellphone information would be "speculation" because court can't tell what kind of fight Trayvon was in.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
West says text messages are compelling evidence that should be admitted. He sits.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:46:20 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 32s
West says authentication an issue in part because of state's discovery delays. Ongoing issue & pending sanctions. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Guy done, asks judge to block texts. West: Texts "are what they are," jury should decide meaning & importance. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:47:00 PM
I need a better computer chair, 13 hours

 :smt045 :smt045

KUDOS to y'all who have been posting the tweets and the case today ... it really has been a long day. Much appreciated.  ::MonkeyDance::

 ::rhino::   ::MonkeyDance::

I'm very thankful.

You're welcome, Amy's Sister.   ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:48:02 PM


July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: If there's an authentication issue, "it's because of the state's misconduct... We were misled, judge." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvoNMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:49:04 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
Nelson: Regardless of when data turned over, "it's still coming from this phone." West: Yes, "the data set is the data set." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:49:22 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
West now complaining again about state not giving them text messages and photos from Trayvon's phone. State says they gave info to find it



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
Nelson says she does see an authentication issue w/phone stuff. She's reading from caselaw. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:50:56 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Nelson says there is an authentication issue with text messages and photos.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:51:14 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9s
Not looking good for defense argument. Nelson: Exhibits have "nothing identifying #TrayvonMartin" as text sender. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:52:17 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27s
Nelson says a third party could've sent texts from #TrayvonMartin's phone. "A person may know that password." #ZimmemanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  50s 
Nelson: I don't have any evidence that Trayvon sent these messages. I have an issue with that.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 09:54:05 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Nelson: Anybody could have picked up the phone and sent the text messages defense wants to introduce to jury as Trayvon's.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:55:12 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42s
West: Unfair #GeorgeZimmerman can't put on defense "because of the state's tactics." Says state lied "to this court." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: If state turned over records sooner, we could've tracked down people #TrayvonMartin was texting with to validate. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 09:56:20 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17s
As Nelson walks out, West says he's not "physically able" to start so early. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: Court in recess, no ruling tonight on #TrayvonMartin's texts. Court resumes at 8 a.m. tomorrow. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 09:56:38 PM
WOW!! that was worth staying up for!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
July 9, 2013
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
That's it for today. 8 a.m.: Rulings on animation & TM texts, argument on witness who may have violated sequestration. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 09, 2013, 10:01:19 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  39s 
That exchange was nothing short of epic. Judge Nelson was frustrated and done with being in court.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  35s 
Judge is gone but lawyers still exchanging angry words. John Guy wants an apology from West who accused him of lying about cellphone info.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Nelson was visibly frustrated as she recessed court until 8 a.m. tomorrow.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
While West tries to continue argument about state withholding information, Nelson says court is in recess.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
West: The state withheld the cellphone information and lied to the court.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 10:02:56 PM
WOW!! that was worth staying up for!


 ::rhino::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 09, 2013, 10:04:59 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Thanks for sticking around today, everyone! Amazed how many were still following along so late.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2013, 10:05:25 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Tuesday, May 29, 2012
More Than a Bag of Skittles - Trayvon Martin and Purple Drank


<snipped.

Purple Drank or Lean is a cocktail that is created by mixing Robitussin or other over-the-counter cough medicines with, you guessed it, Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Juice, the flavor of tea Trayvon Martin was carrying that night.

Purple Drank also goes by other street names such as sizzurp, lean, syrup, sip sip, drank, barre, purple jelly and Texas tea.  It has opiate like effects.  Some of its side effects include confusion, agitation, and hallucinations among others.

<snipped>

http://thekansascitian.blogspot.ca/2012/05/more-than-bag-of-skittles-trayvon.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 09, 2013, 10:29:38 PM
The replay of Nelsons meltdown is up;

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/judge-to-rule-in-morning-about-trayvon-fighting-texts-after-contentious-nightime-hearing/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 09, 2013, 10:59:51 PM
The replay of Nelsons meltdown is up;

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/judge-to-rule-in-morning-about-trayvon-fighting-texts-after-contentious-nightime-hearing/

Thanks alagary!  I will catch up on this evenings trial happenings later.

It does appear that the prosecutor as well as the judge are determined to conceal any facts relating to Trayvon Martin that does not portray him as a 17 year old child returning home following a purchase of skittles and ice tea when he was murdered by George Zimmerman.  Why?  Is it an attempt to appease the Black community?


FLASHBACK

George Zimmerman evidence photo
May 23, 2013
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-evidence-photos-20130522,0,2728131.photogallery


New evidence in Zimmerman case: Trayvon texted about fighting, smoking marijuana
May 23, 2013
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-05-23/news/os-george-zimmerman-trial-trayvon-20130523_1_zimmerman-case-trayvon-martin-george-Zimmerman


George Zimmerman trial — the facts or character on trial?
Friday, May 24, 2013 at 9:36am
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/05/george-zimmerman-trial-the-facts-or-character-on-trial/


Zimmerman judge excludes Trayvon Martin fighting, social media and marijuana use
Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 9:58am
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/05/zimmerman-judge-excludes-trayvon-martin-fighting-social-media-and-marijuana-use/




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 12:00:17 AM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Connor: Texts on phone "where Mr. Martin was either trying to purchase or sell a handgun." Also pics of hand w/gun. #ZimmermanTrial

All of this tension and threats of riots on twitter/FB scare me to death....not for me, I live in the redneck riviera BUT my BF's kids (the younger ones, 9 and 15 are due to go to their mother on Friday who is in classes in Orlando, and we are talking about a mom who left an 8 yr old on the beach where ppl drown and are rescued at the rate of 160 a day on hard yellow flag days, for 90 minutes. He was burning up hot, afraid to get in the water and scared, but she thought it was totally ok. I called his dad and even though it wasn't his week, I told him to get his ass to the Island and get his little boy off the beach, then called his older brother. Only then did she decide to get off the phone sitting in the driveway talking to her BF that she better get her rear out there or I was calling DCF. I'd do it for any child and I don't let my 13 yr old son go by himself, the surf is that bad. A mom who won't feed the kids if she sees me car at her ex husband's house, locks herself in the bedroom and won't feed them because he never took her to an Island he'd never heard of, so the thought of her letting the two wander around Orlando /Epcot and the hotel in and out for a week from Friday scare me .......at that age you don't have the judgement / experience to handle those issues but never occurred to her this option isn't a great choice, but leaving the little one home sick at age 8 with a fever and sick as a dog, and knowing he doesn't have her new phone number also wasn't an issue. Only giving that amount of background and that is about 1/100th of her self absorbed choices to neglect the kids to do whatever she wants in lieu of what is best for the kids and why her letting them roam Orlando next week alone bother me! Is it just me, * the worry wart mom*, or would anyone be ok with their kids roaming free with no barriers in a time of extreme tension all over Orlando without a care in the world?

I just remember that tweet " I am going kill the first white boy I see if GZ isn't found guilty", and it haunts me.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 10, 2013, 12:26:16 AM
The judge has done her due diligence in trying to prevent the defense from dragging this trial out, a tactic used by many defense attorneys.  She is always respectful and has made decisions which have hurt the prosecution so I am confused why some believe she is biased.

She is absolutely right to not allow text messages that have not been authenticated.  This is law 101.  The defense had to have known this would be an issue going back to early this year, probably even before that, which is why West wasted so much time tonight trying to argue that they should be admitted... he knew authentication was going to be an issue.  Judge Nelson was right to be annoyed with him spending so much of the courts time arguing it. 

The judge has been warning this defense team she wanted to move the trial forward for many months prior to its' start.  They should have been more proactive getting their case together, IMO.  Text and email authentication is just not that difficult.  It only requires obtaining one maybe two witnesses.   

Attorneys notoriously drag their feet and I for one am glad to see a judge hold them accountable.

She is protecting the jurists to ensure a most fair decision on their part.  That is ultimately what is of utmost importance.  IMO all courts everywhere should hold attorneys to similar standards.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: jamcakes on July 10, 2013, 12:38:11 AM
The judge has done her due diligence in trying to prevent the defense from dragging this trial out, a tactic used by many defense attorneys.  She is always respectful and has made decisions which have hurt the prosecution so I am confused why some believe she is biased.

She is absolutely right to not allow text messages that have not been authenticated.  This is law 101.  The defense had to have known this would be an issue going back to early this year, probably even before that, which is why West wasted so much time tonight trying to argue that they should be admitted... he knew authentication was going to be an issue.  Judge Nelson was right to be annoyed with him spending so much of the courts time arguing it. 

The judge has been warning this defense team she wanted to move the trial forward for many months prior to its' start.  They should have been more proactive getting their case together, IMO.  Text and email authentication is just not that difficult.  It only requires obtaining one maybe two witnesses.   

Attorneys notoriously drag their feet and I for one am glad to see a judge hold them accountable.

She is protecting the jurists to ensure a most fair decision on their part.  That is ultimately what is of utmost importance.  IMO all courts everywhere should hold attorneys to similar standards.



The Defense just recently received Discovery of certain texts and photos from the Prosecutor, and these are the ones they are arguing over b/c the Defense did not have the time to authenticate.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 01:18:07 AM
The judge has done her due diligence in trying to prevent the defense from dragging this trial out, a tactic used by many defense attorneys.  She is always respectful and has made decisions which have hurt the prosecution so I am confused why some believe she is biased.

She is absolutely right to not allow text messages that have not been authenticated.  This is law 101.  The defense had to have known this would be an issue going back to early this year, probably even before that, which is why West wasted so much time tonight trying to argue that they should be admitted... he knew authentication was going to be an issue.  Judge Nelson was right to be annoyed with him spending so much of the courts time arguing it. 

The judge has been warning this defense team she wanted to move the trial forward for many months prior to its' start.  They should have been more proactive getting their case together, IMO.  Text and email authentication is just not that difficult.  It only requires obtaining one maybe two witnesses.   

Attorneys notoriously drag their feet and I for one am glad to see a judge hold them accountable.

She is protecting the jurists to ensure a most fair decision on their part.  That is ultimately what is of utmost importance.  IMO all courts everywhere should hold attorneys to similar standards.



The Defense just recently received Discovery of certain texts and photos from the Prosecutor, and these are the ones they are arguing over b/c the Defense did not have the time to authenticate.

Exactly, had they rec'd the text and photos from the state when the state discovered them, they would have been able to depose the receiver of those text. The language in them is so similar to Trayvon when he's talking about his mother kicking him out, and I think she is so bias AND the defense repeatedly asked for a few more days or a continuance. I have seen trials pushed back yrs, Casey Anthony, Lana Clarkson etc, IMO she is setting herself up for reversible error and also IMO not close to respectful, it's almost as if she knows GZ would win appeal IF found guilty of a trial brought about due to political pressure and not evidence, so she can somehow convince herself she has clean hands......

WRT TM and his attempt to find a gun (more than once)  and IIRC one of those text was to W8 were relevant to state of mind,  his admitting he;s not a thug, but gangsta IIRC show his life was not really on track....not his fault but parents IMO, I agree about the chip on his shoulder and wanting to prove he was a bad ass, probably egged on by W8, and certainly a crazy ass cracker and he also called GZ the N word, are far worse than f-cking punks in general or specific. 
What is more important, a judge allowing a months continuance or longer or the rights to a fair trial? He was not the angel made out to be via MSM and I am certain GZ might have been overzealous but I don't think it was out of malice. WRT concealed carry, someone mentioned he shouldn't have had it loaded with , why carry then? Any LE, or my BF who s ex FBI and DOJ would tell you one in the chamber, full clip but I was also told to double tap .....

Now I am stressed to no end knowing BF;s youngest kids are going to be 7 miles from Sanford and when the verdict comes down, I pray for restraint but I am also a realist. I'm to the point of telling him to go with the kids and I don't care if they stay in the same damn room, I do not want them to be alone from dawn to dusk or later in this tense enviroment.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 10, 2013, 01:40:01 AM
IIRC correctly the states argument is that the defense has had Trayvon's phone for a long enough time that they could have retrieved the information much sooner and should not have relied upon the state to provide them every little morsel of fact finding the state has done.  The defense could have done some of the work themselves and the defense is twisting that into trying to say the state withheld information... they did not... the defense had the phone and hence the same information the state had.

Additionally, texts are often not allowed as evidence even if they are authenticated because they are considered prejudicial.

My point is that Judge Nelson is not being unfair in her rulings from a legal standpoint and she is doing everything she can to protect the jury's best interest and prevent shenanigans, something we do not see enough of in criminal trials.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 01:40:33 AM
http://apps.americanbar.org/litigation/litigationnews/top_stories/040113-text-message-admissible.html

 ::snipping3::

Home › Litigation News › Top Stories
Establishing That Text Messages Are Admissible
By Sara E. Costello, Litigation News Associate Editor – April 1, 2013
 
Sending text messages or short electronic messages from one cellular phone to another is a very popular form of communication. “Text messaging users send or receive an average of 41.5 messages on a typical day,” concluded the Pew Research Center’s Internet & American Life Project. This number is even greater for cellular phone owners between the ages of 18 and 24. They “exchange an average of 109.5 messages on a normal day.”

Given the volume of text messages, it is important that attorneys consider how such evidence can be authenticated and admitted at trial. Two cases demonstrate that text messages can be authenticated on the basis of their “distinctive characteristics,” pursuant to Fed. R. Evid. 901(b)(4).

The Evidentiary Standard
Evidence must be authenticated—or shown that it is what it is claimed to be—before it is admitted. Fed. R. Evid. 901(b)(4) explains that one of the ways in which a piece of evidence can be authenticated is based upon its “distinctive characteristics” or “the appearance, contents, substance, internal patterns, or other characteristics of the item, taken together with all the circumstances.”

Text Messages Have “Distinctive Characteristics”
In the North Carolina v. Wilkerson, the North Carolina Court of Appeals considered the admissibility of a text message found on a cellular phone seized from the defendant’s pocket. The defendant in this case was accused of possessing stolen goods. Upon searching the phone, the police found a text message in the phone’s sent folder, which stated: “I got a 64 inch flat Samsung.” The appellate court analyzed the text message’s admissibility pursuant to N.C. Gen. Stat. § 8C-1, Rule 901(b)(4), which is similar to Fed. R. Evid. 901(b)(4). The defendant argued that the text message should have been excluded because he was not identified as the sender of the message. The court, however, concluded that the prosecution “presented substantial circumstantial evidence” showing that the defendant sent the text message.



The distinctive characteristics of the text message included the fact that the message discussed one of the stolen goods. The court also noted that the police found the phone from which the message had been sent on the defendant. Further, at trial, an eyewitness testified that a car matching the description of the defendant’s car was in front of the victim’s house and that the driver was using a cellular phone. The records custodian from the company that provided the cellular service for the defendant’s phone also testified that multiple calls were made from the phone on the day of the crime. She also provided evidence establishing the location of the “cell towers used to transmit the calls.” A police officer then testified that he used these locations to track “the phone from the area of the defendant’s home to the area of the victim’s home and back.”

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 10, 2013, 01:50:57 AM
 ::snipping3::
The distinctive characteristics of the text message included the fact that the message discussed one of the stolen goods. The court also noted that the police found the phone from which the message had been sent on the defendant. Further, at trial, an eyewitness testified that a car matching the description of the defendant’s car was in front of the victim’s house and that the driver was using a cellular phone.
 ::snipping3::

The above is very important IMO if we are to compare it with the Zimmerman case.  Trayvon never texted about his encounter with George as you can see the accused thief in the above example did of the tv he stole.  Additionally, no witnesses have been presented stating they saw Trayvon take the picture of the hand holding a gun, nor has any witness been presented who can corroborate that Trayvon is the person who sent the texts.

No authentication has taken place and because the texts and images did not directly relate to the night of his death it is likely no judge would allow it as evidence anyway.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 02:48:56 AM
IIRC correctly the states argument is that the defense has had Trayvon's phone for a long enough time that they could have retrieved the information much sooner and should not have relied upon the state to provide them every little morsel of fact finding the state has done.  The defense could have done some of the work themselves and the defense is twisting that into trying to say the state withheld information... they did not... the defense had the phone and hence the same information the state had.

Additionally, texts are often not allowed as evidence even if they are authenticated because they are considered prejudicial.

My point is that Judge Nelson is not being unfair in her rulings from a legal standpoint and she is doing everything she can to protect the jury's best interest and prevent shenanigans, something we do not see enough of in criminal trials.

I could be wrong but I am pretty sure the defense NEVER had the phone...otherwise why would they have to rely on the state for the discovery? I may be wrong but chain of evidence IMO would be compromised.


I  will agree to disagree with you on the admissability, they could ping the phone, the verbiage never changes thru out the ones I read and I read 10-15 pages, one about being on a bus to Sanford, so they could contact the person on the other end of the text, ping the location but I honestly with every fiber of my being believe since Tracy couldn't unlock the phone, that anyone without the two levels of passwords could. They are what they are and a jury should be allowed to see them if for nothing else as to state of mind.

I have stated this before, the way TM laughed and filmed two homeless men fight over a bike vs GZ being almost congratulated by the NAACP for standing up and raising hell for Sherman Ware, and ironically IIRC Natalie Jackson was Ware's atty, well it shows character of lack thereof of TM and GZ ....and his family had far more use for TM dead rather than alive, alive Sybrina  let Tracy M have him meaning  basically Alicia raised him while Tracy was up to twerking and knocking up other women, Sybrina took him back in and booted him out yet again for getting into all the shit he did and rather than maybe using discipline they pawned him off or let him go and come as he pleased as so many parent I noticed have done thus raising children with no direction and the entitlement attitude, no wonder he had a chip on his shoulder- and now he is their paycheck and reason to retire under the guise of poor little Tray tray.....what a damn farse.

Back again to the phone and whom had it, the very reason Conner was testifying and that was as a whistleblower , was because he knew this case was one prosecuted due to politics, and I doubt as Nelson stated that a 7 yr old was offering money for a gun or talking about weed smuggled between his ass cheeks.



Seriously, it is what it is.......

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I guess someone could argue the absurd point whomever stole his phone used the same verbiage he did......shocking!


This is like the Duke LaCrosse case in so many ways ...

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 02:58:11 AM
Sorry I forgot W8 portion which of the text, I need to go back thru her direct and see if she mentioned any text or the state mentioned any outgoing calls, certainly they should be held to authentication records....of shit, my bad. They never knew about these....

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 04:15:05 AM
44 So.3d 171 (2010)
The STATE of Florida, Appellant,
v.
Raymond LUMARQUE, Appellee.

No. 3D09-2781.
District Court of Appeal of Florida, Third District.

August 25, 2010.
Rehearing Denied October 6, 2010.
172*172 Bill McCollum, Attorney General, and Douglas J. Glaid, Assistant Attorney General, for appellant.

Mark Seiden, Miami, Daniel R. Silver, for appellee.

Before WELLS, SHEPHERD, and SUAREZ, JJ.

SHEPHERD, J.

The State appeals from an order excluding in limine certain photographic and documentary evidence, which the State argues is relevant to the prosecution of the defendant, Raymond Lumarque, on pending charges of burglary with assault or battery, kidnapping, misdemeanor battery and sexual battery without serious injury, all arising out of an alleged incident involving his ex-wife. We have jurisdiction. See State v. Palmore, 495 So.2d 1170, 1171 (Fla.1986). The State also seeks certiorari relief from a trial court order declining the State permission to introduce into evidence an alleged prior incident involving the couple while their divorce was pending, which the State contends is admissible Williams Rule evidence. See Williams v. State, 110 So.2d 654 (Fla. 3d DCA 1959).

We summarily deny the State's petition for certiorari without discussion. On the appeal, we conclude the trial court abused its discretion by concluding that exhibits 5-9 and 11-15 are not admissible in the trial of this case. The State sought to admit into evidence two sexually suggestive images and eleven text messages between the ex-wife and a boyfriend, found on the defendant's cellular telephone. The ex-wife testified that prior to the assault by the defendant, he showed her the two images and one of the text messages. There also is evidence in the record from which one might infer the defendant examined the ex-wife's cellular telephone on the morning or afternoon before the alleged incident when he was alone in the house for a brief period after returning their children back to his ex-wife's home.

At an in limine hearing, the trial court found the two images and one text message the ex-wife testified to admissible, but concluded the remaining exhibits inadmissible as the ex-wife could not authenticate them. The court erred. The images and text messages were found on the defendant's cellular telephone, seized pursuant 173*173 to a search of the defendant's home through a warrant shortly after the alleged incident. This fact, testified by the State's forensics expert, is sufficient to authenticate these exhibits. U.S. v. Caldwell, 776 F.2d 989, 1001-02 (11th Cir.1985) (holding that authentication of evidence merely requires a finding that the evidence is what it purports to be). It also is immaterial that the ex-wife could not identify each of the messages being shown to her on the night of the incident. Regardless how these images and text messages might have found their way onto the defendant's cellular telephone, the State has presented sufficient evidence at this stage that these exhibits constitute evidence of motive. Craig v. State, 510 So.2d 857, 863 (Fla. 1987) (stating that evidence of motive is admissible when it would help the jury understand other evidence). Accordingly, they are admissible into evidence at the trial of this case upon the State laying the proper predicates as indicated by this opinion. In all other respects, we summarily affirm the order on appeal.
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Affirmed in part, reversed in part, and remanded for further proceedings consistent herewith.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10160200832537903146&q=text+message+authentication&hl=en&as_sdt=4,10


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 04:17:27 AM
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 05:33:06 AM
7/9/13   Zimmerman Lawyer Mark O'Mara: "My Client Will Never Be Safe"
 

"MARK O'MARA: Well, first of all, my client will never be safe because there are a percentage of the population who are angry, they're upset and they may well take it out on him. So he'll never be safe.

My hope is that the system that is better than any other in the country -- I'm sorry, in the world is working, and I think that anybody who pays attention to the facts of this case listens to the evidence, will not leave that courtroom thinking that George Zimmerman is guilty of anything. And if a jury agrees, they should not and cannot be frustrated with the outcome, because the state's put on a good case, we put on a good case.

Everything that should get out to this jury has been out, and quite honestly, a lot of what doesn't necessarily need to get out to the jury has been kept from them. And if they decide on the facts of the case, we as a society, black, white, everybody need to look at this case and say, justice was in fact accomplished here because a fair trial was held.

Those who refuse to listen to that they're not going to listen to me or you, or sensibilities at all anyway, they're going to stay frustrated and stay angry."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/09/zimmerman_lawyer_mark_omara_my_client_will_never_be_safe.html



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 05:41:19 AM
The news network would love a riot to help with the ratings. But I guaranty that if any resulting crimes in Florida get to trial the potential jury will not know anything about it.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: sunshine12 on July 10, 2013, 07:40:33 AM
this judge is a real trip.  if she doesnt' let these texts in it's yet another reversible error she made in this case.  if found guilty, it will be overturned on appeal.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 8h
Judge in #Zimmerman trial eases tomorrow's start time. Now 9a. #Trayvon.
Today's session lasted 13 hours.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Orlando, FL

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7h
#ZimmermanTrial pushed back an hour tomorrow. RT @PIOFLCourts18: State vs. Zimmerman - Schedule Change
Court convenes tomorrow at 9 a.
m.

 Orlando SentinelOrlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 8h
George Zimmerman trial: Judge Nelson adjourned court and walked out as defense was still protesting - see video: http://thesent.nl/18KlGq4
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

  Sean PittsSean Pitts ‏@Suppy7 8h
@renestutzman @orlandosentinel @JeffWeinerOS Video: Judge leaves courtroom while #Zimmerman attorney speaking http://bit.ly/1dgCt1B
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 07:47:12 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)

Mark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 57m
Animation defense is seeking is ill advised. Same mistake as state with ME as final witness. #georgezimmerman #trayvonmartin @cnn @cfnews13

 Mark NeJameMark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 59m
Animation defense is seeking is ill advised. Same mistake as state with ME as final witness. #georgezimmer #trayvonmartin @cnn  @cfnews13

 Mark NeJameMark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 8h
The Defense will get a gift if animation excluded. Don't need it & will end on a low note. #georgezimmerman #trayvonmartin @cnn @cfnews13


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 07:48:11 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Court resumes at 9 a.m. RT @orlandosentinel: #GeorgeZimmerman trial resumes today in death of #TrayvonMartin. http://thesent.nl/152kM35


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 07:50:30 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-22-20130710,0,5388573.story
George Zimmerman trial: Rulings expected; defense could rest today
Will jurors hear about texts from Trayvon Martin's phone about fighting?

July 10, 2013

SANFORD - Key rulings are expected by the judge in the George Zimmerman murder trial this morning that will shape what the defense can show and tell jurors about 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, and the night of his shooting.

The defense expects to rests today, after calling the last of its witnesses. After a marathon court session that lasted well into the night on Tuesday, who those witnesses will be remains in doubt.

Attorneys will return to court today, before testimony resumes, for rulings from Circuit Judge Debra Nelson on two potential defense witnesses, as well as argument on other legal issues.

Nelson has to decide whether the defense can admit a computer animated crime scene reconstruction by defense expert Daniel Schumaker. Zimmerman's lawyers say the animation was constructed with established technology from the evidence in the case. The state argues the defense is using Schumaker to put on argument about the Feb. 26, 2012, shooting in the guise of testimony.

The judge also must rule on whether another defense expert, Richard Connor, can testify about hidden text messages about fighting he unearthed from the memory of Trayvon's phone. The defense argues the texts demonstrate that Trayvon was an experienced fighter. The state says they're irrelevant and the defense can't prove Trayvon was the one who sent them.
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Also this morning, Nelson will hear about a defense witness, longtime Zimmerman friend John Donnelly, who apparently violated the witness sequestration rule by sitting court for testimony almost two weeks before he took the stand.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 08:00:41 AM


There are trial rules and trial minutes etc. here.  It looks like as of today, the trial minutes for July 5, 2013 were the last posted. 

http://www.flcourts18.org/page.php?129

Eighteenth Judicial Circuit Courts

State v. Zimmerman (2012-CF001083-A)

It is the goal of the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit to ensure that the media and public are accommodated to the best of the Court's abilities during special interest/high profile proceedings. Below you will find media advisories and public record documents pertaining to State v. Zimmerman (2012-CF-001083-A). Please continue to check this website for updates. Documents will be posted as they are made available for public distribution.

(See links to documents)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 08:03:38 AM
As posted May 17, 2012 Hat tip:  Toler
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12964.msg1525038#msg1525038

State v. Zimmerman: Evidence released by prosecutor
Includes Trayvon Martin autopsy report, George Zimmerman medical report and other evidence related to the trial "State v. Zimmerman."
Trayvon Martin autopsy report: Pages 125-130

http://www.scribd.com/doc/93951121/state-v-zimmerman-evidence-released-by-prosecutor


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 08:04:11 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
After a contentious end to the animation reenactment hearing last night, Judge Nelson pushed court's start time back to 9am. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 08:15:42 AM
I was just browsing through the "Documents in the Case" support thread and there's some interesting things in there to review.  Also, if anyone has anything they can add for future reference, it's appreciated.  I find it's much easier to have a discussion concerning the points of the case if we have information available to support opinions and argue on the merits of the case with basis. JMHO

Documents in the Case

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12967.msg1518432#msg1518432


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 08:15:54 AM
I might just go ahead and cuss and raise heck on here today. You can't prove it was me at the keyboard.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: labubske on July 10, 2013, 08:16:13 AM
Reading through here this morning...it hit me like a BRICK why I have stayed away from this case.  Purely political.  It is not okay to attack Zimmerman's character and leave Martin's as the sweet little baby angel...if it is possible that he was involved in more or had the potential to do harm...because that COULD have been Zimmerman's DEFENSE.  COULD HAVE BEEN.  So, with open minds....


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: sunshine12 on July 10, 2013, 08:43:11 AM
I might just go ahead and cuss and raise heck on here today. You can't prove it was me at the keyboard.

haha same!!!!!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: sunshine12 on July 10, 2013, 08:44:58 AM
i personally think the defense should just be able to use the animation as a demonstrative aide in their closing arguments.  the judge needs to allow the text messages or this is getting reversed.  the case law, which can be found on www.legalinsurrection.com is clear as day and i suggest people check it out if interested.  My only question is, if she denies the defenses motion to enter the texts, can they immediately appeal to the appeals court or do they wait until their is a verdict?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
I might just go ahead and cuss and raise heck on here today. You can't prove it was me at the keyboard.

haha same!!!!!

Either the rules of evidence are woefully inadequate to deal with technology or this judge is extremely naïve or ignorant to what a double password is and the intent as to why some one would have such a set up.

Many individuals have no password on their phones. I don't suggest that but if that was the case then I would agree with the fact that anyone could have sent the texts.

However, when an individual has not one, but two and an app that funnels texts to a different database in a phone ... then the intent is to hide such texts and there is no way another individual would have that pw. The reason why you do this is to hide the texts to be only from you. 

I would not be surprised, depending on what the verdict is in this case if that is not an appeal issue.

One last thing ... if TM had such a propensity to fighting, sorry ... there is no way he was afraid of George Zimmerman. It is more likely that TV would have confronted GZ, not backed away from him. It is a travesty that TM's past does not come in because it tells a jury what his mindset most likely was at the time. JMO.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 08:53:28 AM
MuffyBee, I will be posting for an hour then I have to leave.  I will return at 2:00 p.m. Florida time. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:00:39 AM
MuffyBee, I will be posting for an hour then I have to leave.  I will return at 2:00 p.m. Florida time. 


Okay grace-land.  If I can pick up the slack I will.  I will be leaving in about 40 minutes (8:35 a.m. cst) and will be away hopefully no more than an hour and I'll be posting tweets after that.  If it wasn't  a long standing appointment, I would move it.   ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 09:00:44 AM
I might just go ahead and cuss and raise heck on here today. You can't prove it was me at the keyboard.

haha same!!!!!

Either the rules of evidence are woefully inadequate to deal with technology or this judge is extremely naïve or ignorant to what a double password is and the intent as to why some one would have such a set up.

Many individuals have no password on their phones. I don't suggest that but if that was the case then I would agree with the fact that anyone could have sent the texts.

However, when an individual has not one, but two and an app that funnels texts to a different database in a phone ... then the intent is to hide such texts and there is no way another individual would have that pw. The reason why you do this is to hide the texts to be only from you.  

I would not be surprised, depending on what the verdict is in this case if that is not an appeal issue.

One last thing ... if TM had such a propensity to fighting, sorry ... there is no way he was afraid of George Zimmerman. It is more likely that TV would have confronted GZ, not backed away from him. It is a travesty that TM's past does not come in because it tells a jury what his mindset most likely was at the time. JMO.

I have followed Legal Insurrection for years and have linked to it on numerous occasions on SM.com. It is a great site.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-judge-needs-to-read-this-case-on-authentication-of-text-messages//#more

A reader forwarded to me the case of State v. Lumarque, 44 So.3d 171, Fla.App. 3 Dist.,2010, in which a Florida appeals court reversed a trial court’s decision to exclude text messages on authentication grounds.  Here’s the pertinent part of the holding (emphasis mine):


On the appeal, we conclude the trial court abused its discretion by concluding that exhibits 5-9 and 11-15 are not admissible in the trial of this case. The State sought to admit into evidence two sexually suggestive images and eleven text messages between the ex-wife and a boyfriend, found on the defendant’s cellular telephone. The ex-wife testified that prior to the assault by the defendant, he showed her the two images and one of the text messages. There also is evidence in the record from which one might infer the defendant examined the ex-wife’s cellular telephone on the morning or afternoon before the alleged incident when he was alone in the house for a brief period after returning their children back to his ex-wife’s home.

At an in limine hearing, the trial court found the two images and one text message the ex-wife testified to admissible, but concluded the remaining exhibits inadmissible as the ex-wife could not authenticate them. The court erred. The images and text messages were found on the defendant’s cellular telephone, seized pursuant to a search of the defendant’s home through a warrant shortly after the alleged incident. This fact, testified by the State’s forensics expert, is sufficient to authenticate these exhibits. U.S. v. Caldwell, 776 F.2d 989, 1001-02 (11th Cir.1985) (holding that authentication of evidence merely requires a finding that the evidence is what it purports to be). It also is immaterial that the ex-wife could not identify each of the messages being shown to her on the night of the incident. Regardless how these images and text messages might have found their way onto the defendant’s cellular telephone, the State has presented sufficient evidence at this stage that these exhibits constitute evidence of motive. Craig v. State, 510 So.2d 857, 863 (Fla.1987) (stating that evidence of motive is admissible when it would help the jury understand other evidence). Accordingly, they are admissible into evidence at the trial of this case upon the State laying the proper predicates as indicated by this opinion….


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:01:46 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Lawyers start at the bench.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Court is back in session. #georgezimmerman #trayvonmartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:02:31 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
#Trayvon's parents are in the c-room, #GeorgeZimmerman at defense table. Special Prosecutor Angela Corey in her usual spot in the gallery.
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Judge Nelson arrives, #ZimmermanTrial back in session. Watch: http://bit.ly/11wpinH  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:03:54 AM
MuffyBee, I will be posting for an hour then I have to leave.  I will return at 2:00 p.m. Florida time. 


Okay grace-land.  If I can pick up the slack I will.  I will be leaving in about 40 minutes (8:35 a.m. cst) and will be away hopefully no more than an hour and I'll be posting tweets after that.  If it wasn't  a long standing appointment, I would move it.   ::bee::

Thanks for the quick response!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:06:35 AM
MuffyBee, I will be posting for an hour then I have to leave.  I will return at 2:00 p.m. Florida time. 


Okay grace-land.  If I can pick up the slack I will.  I will be leaving in about 40 minutes (8:35 a.m. cst) and will be away hopefully no more than an hour and I'll be posting tweets after that.  If it wasn't  a long standing appointment, I would move it.   ::bee::

Thanks for the quick response!


You're welcome.  I have a feeling Judge Nelson isn't going to allow for delays, so there might be a lot going on. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:07:34 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Sidebar is over. Might be time for animation/texts rulings. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@CClampit Court's back in session, no rulings yet.
 View conversation


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:07:44 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
There was no evidence to support that accusation. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Casey  Anthony's attorney was allowed to accuse her father of raping her even though the judge and everyone else knew 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Could be reversed on appeal if #Zimmermanon9 is convicted and thete could have to be a second trial. It's the theory of defense.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
@kathic1016 Live stream: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  | Blog: http://at.wftv.com/14ORrY3  #Zimmermanon9
View conversation     

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
WFTV legal analyst says if Circuit Judge Debra Nelson does not allow Trayvon's fighting history in as evidence.. She 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Court is in session and they're at the bench. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Attorneys are at the bench talking to Judge Nelson, who walked into the courtroom this morning smiling. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:09:28 AM
I'm also keeping a window open and reading Andrew Branca's tweets:  https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense (https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense) although I'm not posting them.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: sunshine12 on July 10, 2013, 09:11:16 AM
ooo the defense is using the lemarque case!!!! i know someone on www.legalinsurrection.com emailed MOM the case info


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:11:47 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  55s 
@kathic1016 No problem. You can bookmark them for the rest of #Zimmermanon9 coverage.
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Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The judge appears to be reading something at the bench. The jury is not in court yet. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
A couple of the judge's friends are here in court today. #Zimmermanon9

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  3m 
VIDEO: See the contentious late-night end to last night's animation reenactment hearing: http://at.wftv.com/173Xrz8  #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Last night's hearing ended abruptly amid tension between the judge and the defense. Today She was pleasant with O'Mara. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: sunshine12 on July 10, 2013, 09:12:00 AM
OMG she isn't letting the phone in, REVERSIBLE error.  im sorry but this judge is so off the mark its ridiculous. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:12:40 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Breaking: Judge rules #ZimmermanTrial jurors will not hear about #TrayvonMartin’s texts on fighting. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge Nelson: #GeorgeZimmerman defense’s animation blocked from evidence, allowed as demonstrative exhibit.  #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Animation in as evidence but the defense will be allowed to use it as a demonstrative tool in presenting its case. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The judge is standing by ruling not to allow Martin's texts about fighting in and will not allow the defense to enter its 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The judge will not allow in Martin's text messages about fighting. The defense is still trying. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:17:34 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s
Jury is back in court, #GeorgeZimmerman defense to resume calling witnesses. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:19:01 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  33s 
The judge told juror E 6 to alert her if she needs to leave the courtroom. We don't know why. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Though he was to be sequestered. It was the defense responsibility to tell him he was sequestered. She has not yet. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The judge was expected to address the testimony of defense witness John Donnelly who was in trial before his testimony 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 09:19:54 AM
Nelson might throw a real hissy fit if the jury comes back Not Guilty.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:21:10 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The defense has called private investigator and police safety expert who is a retired police officer. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:22:05 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@bdff @lightgraphs No ruling on Donnelly yet.
 
 Orlando SentinelOrlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 3m
Judge rules against George Zimmerman defense on animation, Trayvon Martin's texts. http://thesent.nl/152kM35 .
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Next witness: Dennis Root, defense's law enforcement expert. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Regarding animation: Ruling means jurors may see it, possibly during closings, but won't go back w/jury as evidence for deliberations.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:23:04 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Dana Chaaban ‏@DanaChaabanWFTV 2m
Here's the professional website for current witness, Private Investigator Dennis Root http://www.dennisroot.com/  #zimmermanon9 #georgezimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:24:16 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27s
Keep in mind as Root testifies, judge granted this motion blocking some of his opinions on this case: http://bit.ly/16O5XSM  #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:25:17 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 24s
Root now describing "force continuum," used for appropriate use of force determination by law enforcement. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:25:41 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Was in court on Jun 25/Jun 26 and was subpoenaed as a witness Jul 4. Don't know how the judge will handle it. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
We've been told that defense witness John Donnelly was not subpoenaed until 8 days after he was in court for trial. He 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:27:16 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The defense expert is testifying about aggressor and offender in physical confrontation in a police context and others. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:30:30 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Root: "Training on force begins in the police academy," needed for law enforcement certification. Cops get ongoing training. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:31:46 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara's taking Root through his qualifications as a law enforcement instructor, defensive force expert. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 09:34:42 AM
OMG she isn't letting the phone in, REVERSIBLE error.  im sorry but this judge is so off the mark its ridiculous. 

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ITA- I see reversible error all over this case........very low threshold to bring in text messages and I wish I could say I was shocked, but with with Biatch totally not.....


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:35:58 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense expert was a drill instructor for a boot camp for juvenile offenders. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 09:37:46 AM
I'll be gone hopefully no more than an hour.  I can post tweets when I return.   ::buzzbee2:: ::jeep3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:38:23 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Root taught police instructors on use of force and defensive tactics. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Root has focused on training concerning use of force. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 09:38:25 AM
Might be good if OMara asks about the advantage of getting the first punch.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:39:55 AM
I'll be gone hopefully no more than an hour.  I can post tweets when I return.   ::buzzbee2:: ::jeep3::



Enjoy!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:41:41 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Root says handcuffing properly requires training. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Root taught firearms training for armed security guards. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:43:18 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  54s 
Root says he was the go-to consultant for Martin County State Attorney in use of force cases. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Root says he would focus on mistakes or unique situations as training opportunities. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:47:04 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Root says he was a semi-pro kick boxer and had martial arts training since he was a child. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:49:05 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
He says his older brothers used to beat up on him but after getting his training they left him alone. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:50:54 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Root says he was brought in as an expert for grand jury investigations involving force. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:53:12 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The grand jury. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Norm Wolfinger stepped aside without explanation. When Duval County Angela Corey was appointed she opted not to use 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
There were indications the Seminole County State Attorney was planning to take the #Zimmermanon9 case to a grand jury.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:54:41 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The former police officer reached out to the defense to help determine what happened in this case. #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:56:26 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Root would want as much evidence as possible including each person's background.. To get the totality of circumstances. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 09:58:06 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
He said he got all the evidence he needed in this case including witness statements both written and oral statements. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 10:03:43 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
He focused on how #Zimmermanon9 met up with Martin and the resulting fight and shooting and the timeline.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
He also now trains civilians in self defense. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Root says he got the average amount of data in the case not more or less than usual. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 10:05:06 AM
I have to leave now for 4 hours.  Will continue posting tweets when I come back!  ::jeep3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 10:23:05 AM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV



Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The defense is using Root to discredit the witness who thought she heard three shots and saw #Zimmermanon9 in top of Martin

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 9m He says witness statements often conflict because of different perspectives. He evaluates by comparing with other evidence.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 11m He says the raw first interviews before any influence could be the most accurate.  #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 18m The jury is taking notes about the witnesses and the timeline Root focused on. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 10:25:38 AM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m Root says the darkness, rain, and isolation of the fight would figure into #Zimmermanon9 's state of mind.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 5m The defense is using Root to discredit the witness who thought she heard three shots and saw #Zimmermanon9 in top of Martin
               
jody stone ‏@mo2g 3m @KBelichWFTV  I'm sure jurors thought that woman was a wacko anyway.  It's all Good


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 10:28:32 AM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m Root believes the fight started by the "T" where #Zimmermanon9 dropped his flashlight. Martin's friend Rachel Jeantel said Martin Run to the other end of the buildings three minutes earlier. 2/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 10:36:21 AM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 57s Root says the 911 call indicates the fight lasted at least 40 seconds and that is an eternity

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m He says if you're not winning after 30 seconds you run out of steam and have to change tactics

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m He said #Zimmermanon9 would have been lacking in a physical confrontation compared to Martin

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m Root described Martin as physically fit but said #Zimmermanon9 was not. He said the paramedics thought Martin was in his 20's.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m Root says #Zimmermanon9 was described by his trainer as a nice person but not a fighter.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 10:52:58 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 48m
Root lists some witnesses whose statements he used: Lauer, Good, the Bahadoors. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 49m
Root: Also used interviews with "key witnesses," people with most information. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 50m
Root says 1st thing he used in analyzing #GeorgeZimmerman case were "initial calls that came in," for timeline. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Root: Retired from Martin County Sheriff's Office in April 2011, but kept doing training. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Root: "I started martial arts training when I was 13 years old," was semi-pro in kickboxing. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
#ZimmermanTrial: Judge rules against defense on animation, #TrayvonMartin texts | Updated: http://bit.ly/18N0YWK  #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Root says agencies consulted with him on use of Tasers when those were first being implemented. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Root continues on LEO training: "Good side & bad side to handcuffs," slapping wrong side on wrists can cause injury. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Root: Worked as use of force specialist for LEOs, "my job was to develop use of force training... defensive tactics." #ZimmermanTrial

 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1h
#GeorgeZimmerman's sister, Gracie, is back, after missing yesterday.

Watch the trial http://www.orlandosentinel.com/oslivevideo-george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-20130528,0,7496592.htmlstory …
#Trayvon.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Christina VazquezChristina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports 1h
As is customary with expert testimony, defense witness is explaining his credentials.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 10:54:46 AM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV


Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m Jurors are paying attention and some are taking notes

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m He says law enforcement usually waits 72 hours to talk to officers who have used deadly force to get more accurate story.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m He says after a high stress event there are memory holes and it could take 72 hours to remember or forever

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 36s Root says based on #Zimmermanon9 firing only once and the other evidence everything he sees no ill will or hatred in his actions

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 59s The prosecutor just have Angela Corey a look and she smirked. She's been here almost constantly but is not handling the case


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 10:55:40 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34m
Root: In forming opinion, considered "unrelenting attack coupled with injuries" one on back, other in "mount position." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36m
Root: #GeorgeZimmerman's injuries, Good's statements relevant to altercation. Had to put himself in each witness' shoes. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 38m
Root says sound could've reverberated off walls. Also "perceptual distortions or memory issues" common. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39m
O'Mara: Concerned Surdyka said she heard multiple "pop" sounds? Root: "No, it didn't raise concern," high-stress event. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 41m
State objects to Root testifying about witness Surdyka's statement. Bench conference. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42m
Root: When evaluating statements, important not to get hung up on minor changes. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43m
Root: "Conflicting statements are normal," especially in "high-stress events." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 46m
Root says important to separate witnesses for statements. Initial statements "most raw," & not tainted by outside influence. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 47m
Root: "Accuracy is based on perspective," mentions the movie Vantage Point. "We all have our vantage point... perspective" #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 10:57:17 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29m
Root: I'd expect different force response from Chuck Norris than Pee-wee Herman. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 30m
Root says he spoke to #GeorgeZimmerman once, also talked to GZ's trainer Adam Pollock. Training "a very important variable." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31m
State objects when O'Mara asks Root if #GeorgeZimmerman head injuries consistent w/hit by something other than fists. Judge sustains.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 32m
Root: #GeorgeZimmerman's injuries "consistent with a fight, a physical fist fight." #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Valerie BoeyValerie Boey ‏@vboey 33m
Jurors taking notes as Root says the evidence was consistent w #georgezimmerman statements.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34m
Cautionary tale MT @Shopaholic_918: Q: How did you get written up at work Mona?
A: Caught reading @jeffweineros tweets on #zimmermantrial.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34m
Root: "Without question," #GeorgeZimmerman photos "consistent with the information that was provided." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 35m
@Shopaholic_918 Oh no! Thanks for following! Don't get in trouble on my account.
 View conversation


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 10:58:22 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
Root: "You can only do so much based on your background traning & experience," diminishing return as fight goes on. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 24m
An oversight on my part. RT @DoTPeRioD: @JeffWeinerOS you should've hashtagged Pee Wee Herman, tho

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
Root said #GeorgeZimmerman would be "lacking" in a fight with #TrayvonMartin. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
Root: #TrayvonMartin "physically active and capable person," #GeorgeZimmerman "by no stretch of the imagination an athlete." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
Root: Nothing I saw showed #TrayvonMartin "wasn't physically capable." More fit that #GeorgeZimmerman, Root says. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29m
Root: #GeorgeZimmerman "was not a fighter." Accomplished weight loss, but not fighting skills. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 14m
George Zimmerman trial: Florida deputies release PSA about post-verdict violence. http://thesent.nl/152wNFE .
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
Root: Some people experience "critical stress amnesia... memory holes." Can be temporary or permanent. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
Root says close-range gunshot by #GeorgeZimmerman doesn't show ill-will, hatred, spite toward #TrayvonMartin. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
O'Mara asks if Root sees evidence of ill-will, hatred, spite by #GeorgeZimmerman. State objects. Bench conference. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman's single shot "unusual" in your experience? State objects: Relevance. Nelson: Sustained. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 22m
Root: "40 seconds is an eternity" when in a fight. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
Root: 40 seconds a long time, screams show "a high level of stress, a high level of fear." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 24m
Root: Length of fight in this case "a very long time," plays into decision making "of any individual." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 11:00:50 AM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m #Zimmermanon9 's ammunition was less likely to hurt someone else because it was less likely to pass through the body and hit someone else.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m Root says if you don't have a round in the chamber why carry it? He teaches to fully load. #Zimmermanon9 's gun was loaded but not fully.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:00:59 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Root: In self-defense, an external safety can "actually create a problem." Firearm "safe as the person holding it." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
@obxlover Nothing preventing them from talking about case before trial. Sequestration not in effect until requested after trial starts.
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
O'Mara asking about #GeorgeZimmerman's gun. Root: "Offers some advantages, some disadvantages." Picking gun very personal. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
O'Mara says he needs a minute, suggests break. Jury says they're good. He's consulting w/ #GeorgeZimmerman & Don West. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Root says it's best to take general statement from shooter early, then give delay before detailed statement. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Root: When teaching on deadly force, "we always explain... remember, you're not going to remember everything" right away. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:02:43 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Guy: An "irresponsible person can be really, really dangerous" with gun. Root: "Absolutely. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Root says #GeorgeZimmerman was expressing frustration. "In and of itself," doesn't see profanity as ill-will. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Prosecutor Guy up for cross examination. You heard #GeorgeZimmerman say "a**hole," "f***ing punk"? Root: Doesn't necessary mean ill will.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Root: Hollow point bullets appropriate for self defense. "Less likely to over-penetrate" & exit person. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@archdriver Unclear. Hasn't come up in court yet.
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Root: "Carrying it without a round in the chamber, why carry it?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Root: "Having a round in the chamber means you can discharge the firearm immediately." No delay. "Best way" to carry gun. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Root: When carrying a concealed weapon, "you have to keep it concealed." Internal holster makes that easier. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:03:49 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Root started his firm this year. Realized worldwide attention on this case? Root: "Of course." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:10:41 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Root: I've never had to shoot anyone, never discharged firearm in line of duty. Has never killed anyone. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Root says he's never testified as an expert before in a criminal trial. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Root says he's not being paid. Says he's worked for free before. General fee: $1,500 deposit, $125hr. $175hr for testimony. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Guy: Advertised you're a witness in #ZimmermanTrial? Root: "Yes sir." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Guy suggests Root seeking publicity. Root: Knew there'd be publicity, but "I'm dedicated to finding the truth." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:11:29 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  alagary!  Thank you for posting tweets!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:14:01 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 22s
Guy: 2 mins btwn end of #GeorgeZimmerman's call & when #TrayvonMartin's call with Jeantel cuts off. Root: "I did not give that weight."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root on #TrayvonMartin's phone: "I didn't see the weight that it had" in evaluating #GeorgeZimmerman's use of force. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:17:10 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
Root says he didn't ask Zimmerman how Trayvon approached him and punched him.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:22:47 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root: Clear from evidence #GeorgeZimmerman was struck & "and his head did make contact with a hard surface." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Root: Details like how many times #GeorgeZimmerman's head hit concrete subject to "perceptual distortions." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Guy: Did you ask how many times #GeorgeZimmerman's head bashed on concrete? Root: "No, not how many times it happened." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Root says he didn't try to "narrow down" w/ #GeorgeZimmerman how fight moved from one place to next. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:24:28 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 52s
Root: Didn't ask if #GeorgeZimmerman got blood in eyes, or if tried to hit #TrayvonMartin. GZ didn't say what he was doing with his hands.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:27:40 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Guy is now straddling a dummy to demonstrate the position. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 11:34:34 AM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV


Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The jurors are standing up to see the state give a demonstration of how Martin could have been getting up when he was shot.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The state just used a mannequin to show the jury how #Zimmermanon9 said Martin was straddling and where his gun would be.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The state is asking now about where #Zimmermanon9 said Martin was straddling him.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The defense expert told the state if Martin had lived his vantage point would have been important

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The state is pointing out things that the defense expert did not ask when he talked to #Zimmermanon9 .

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 55s He said #Zimmermanon9's head could have hit the concrete as a result punches which could have felt like two impacts each.


Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The state keeps saying they were "rolling" but this witness says there's no evidence of that.

#Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m       Root said there are a lot if things that Rachel Jeantel said that don't line up with the timeline

 

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m Root says he talked to #Zimmermanon9  about the shooting and did not ask whether he was afraid when he got out of his vehicle after he Said Martin had run toward the back entrance of the neighborhood.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m Root says he hasn't been paid yet by the defense. The state is insinuating he inserted himself in the case for free Publicity for his brand new company

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m He says he is dedicated to the truth but admits to advertising that he's a witness in the #Zimmermanon9 case.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The state points out he's on live television and getting free publicity.. He says he could have reached out to the state

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m Root told the state he thought #Zimmermanon9's cursing was frustration not ill will or hatred


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:36:18 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Screengrab: Guy straddles dummy, asks Root about gun position. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/Bu68hv6QQx (http://pic.twitter.com/Bu68hv6QQx)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354985846404956160/photo/1

(http://i.imgur.com/grJhQGY.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:37:51 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Guy: Did #GeorgeZimmerman say #TrayvonMartin slid down, exposing access to gun? Root: No. #ZimmermanTrial

 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 9m
Half the jury stands as JohnGuy climbs on a foam figure to approximate where #Zimmerman said #Trayvon was.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 11:37:57 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img17/2451/y10c.gif)


What is wrong with this picture? There appears to be a prosecution and judicial conspiracy in an attempt to bring about a guilty verdict. Why? Is it about a PC appeasing the Black community?


Zimmerman judge needs to read this case on authentication of text messages
July 10, 2013 at 7:11am


Judge Nelson stated that there was no evidence that Trayvon typed the texts even though the messages were on his phone and stored in DOUBLE-PASSWORD protected format using phone apps. …

The defense countered that its computer forensic expert, who testified, was able to track hundreds if not thousand of text messages on the phone and that the flow of conversations indicated it was Trayvon in context

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-judge-needs-to-read-this-case-on-authentication-of-text-messages/


Breaking – Jury will not get to see Trayvon fighting texts
July 10, 2013 at 9:15am


The Judge in the Zimmerman trial just ruled that the jury will not get to see numerous text messages on Trayvon Martin’s phone regarding his prowess at fighting, including texts as to how to punch someone in the nose and make them bleed.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/breaking-jury-will-not-get-to-see-trayvon-fighting-texts/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:38:52 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Guy: Read Osterman statement re #TrayvonMartin touching gun? Root: Yes, but didn't dwell on "hearsay that comes from somebody else"

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Guy: Was it dark out when you visited scene? Root: Was dusk, sun "not completely set." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Rene StutzmanRene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 5m
Bernie started this yesterday, JohnGuy carrying it today: theory that #Trayvon was backing off, easing up when #Zimmerman fired.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Root says he doesn't see how gunshot would be at 90 degrees if #TrayvonMartin was backing off #GeorgeZimmerman. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Guy back on the dummy. Asks if bullet tragectory also could be consistent with #TrayvonMartin "backing up." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:40:55 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root: "The human mind likes to fill in the blanks... the information I need is about that night." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:41:54 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
If #TrayvonMartin was backing off, de-escalation? Root: "Sure, if a person is disengaging, it would be a de-escalation." #ZimmermanTrial
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:44:21 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Guy: #GeorgeZimmerman screaming in 911 audio? Root: "I wasn't there, I couldn't tell you that," but fits Good's statements. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:46:39 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Unusual to yell for help if fighting, see other person has gun? Anbody "looking down the barrell of a firearm" would yell. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:47:45 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Guy: #GeorgeZimmerman didn't try other options before shooting? Root: "He did scream for help... I don't know what else he could have done."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
JohnGuy: If u were #Trayvon & saw gun, wud u have started screaming?
#Root: No. I'd grab for the gun.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL 

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Verbal component to use of force? Root: Yes. Guy: Includes identifying yourself? "Yes... always a good idea." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 11:51:33 AM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV


Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The defense expert says #Zimmermanon9 would naturally have tried to struggle to get away and there was evidence of that.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The state is trying to say Martin might have screamed for help for 40 seconds because #Zimmermanon9 had a gun

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m He says the angle could have been created by any number of positions of the body


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:55:12 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@frontroyalgirl Yes, I tweeted that: http://bit.ly/16qWbDY

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Bench conference, as Guy was asking Root about what information he used to determine #TrayvonMartin was "physically active." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 10, 2013, 11:55:53 AM
OMG she isn't letting the phone in, REVERSIBLE error.  im sorry but this judge is so off the mark its ridiculous. 

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ITA- I see reversible error all over this case........very low threshold to bring in text messages and I wish I could say I was shocked, but with with Biatch totally not.....

This just isn't true.  It's been common knowledge in the legal community that these texts and images would likely not be permissible:

Article from May 2013
http://www.news4jax.com/news/george-zimmerman-attorneys-release-pictures-from-trayvon-martins-cellphone/-/475880/20273016/-/item/1/-/xglunr/-/index.html
 ::snipping3::
Many other lawyers say most of this material will never be shown inside the Seminole County Courtroom during the trial this summer.

The new president of the local chapter of Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers agrees with the prosecutor on this issue.

"There is no reason why this information has been released, other than to affect jurors," said attorney Gene Nichols. "The allegation, or what the Zimmerman defense team wants everyone to believe, is that Trayvon was a violent young man. They want you to believe that Trayvon was involved with drugs because maybe he made statements over his texts. These are texts that would most likely never see the light of day in court."
 ::snipping3::

It's also very unlikely that Trayvon Martin's parents believe losing their son was a favor to them.  You're a parent Island Monkey so I'm surprised you would believe that.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 11:58:20 AM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
Guy: Is "suspect" a law enforcement term? Root: "Oh sure. It's also a crime prevention term also." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
You heard #GeorgeZimmerman asked by dispatcher if following #TrayvonMartin, answer yes? Root: "Yes sir, absolutely." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 12:00:49 PM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV


Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The state asked about Martin's athletic ability. The defense wanted to use a photo of his physique but the judge said no.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m The defense expert says if #Zimmermanon9  were surprised by Martin he might not have thought to communicate and introduce


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 12:04:02 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Screengrab: O'Mara mounts dummy, bangs its head against floor to demonstrate bashing. #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/8XSgYXIlgp (http://pic.twitter.com/8XSgYXIlgp)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354993914396160001/photo/1
(http://i.imgur.com/bdBYG6c.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 12:05:38 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara: State suggestion #TrayvonMartin backing off possible? Root: Yes, but I have no evidence of that. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 12:07:44 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Screengrab: O'Mara demonstrates state's #TrayvonMartin-backing-off concept. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman pic.twitter.com/CGgfkA3PIV (http://pic.twitter.com/CGgfkA3PIV)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354994762123706368/photo/1
(http://i.imgur.com/b1KZY7h.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 12:08:06 PM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV


Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The state asked about Martin's athletic ability. The defense wanted to use a photo of his physique but the judge said no.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m The defense expert says if #Zimmermanon9  were surprised by Martin he might not have thought to communicate and introduce

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 12:11:34 PM
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m The expert asked how #Zimmermanon9  be the aggressor and not hurt Martin who had no injuries aside from gunshot and knuckle scrapes.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The defense is demonstrating all the possible scenarios and said there's no absolute proof of any of them

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m The defense used the state's black mannequin to show how Martin could have driven #Zimmermanon9 's head into concrete


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 12:12:00 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara: Possible #TrayvonMartin was on #GeorgeZimmerman's thighs, gun accessible? Root: Yes. pic.twitter.com/Ebr0qOD7xz (http://pic.twitter.com/Ebr0qOD7xz)


https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/354995053464260610/photo/1
(http://i.imgur.com/xXmEQhZ.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 12:13:31 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
JohnGuy: If u were #Trayvon & saw gun, wud u have started screaming?
#Root: No. I'd grab for the gun.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL 

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Verbal component to use of force? Root: Yes. Guy: Includes identifying yourself? "Yes... always a good idea." #ZimmermanTrial

OUCH!!! That little tid bit is not what the prosecution wanted to hear.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 12:14:32 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#ZimmermanTrial: Judge issues key rulings, defense expert testifies | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18N0YWK  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Lunch time. Court resumes at 1:45, Nelson says. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nelson: Jury is going out for special, long lunch break. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
When #GeorgeZimmerman was following, "it's because there's no threat," #TrayvonMartin "took off running." GZ's tone changed. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara: Explain to jury how #GeorgeZimmerman didn't strike single blow. Root: #TrayvonMartin "raining down" blows, GZ "incapable" to resist.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
O'Mara: "Most anything" can be weapon? Root agrees, says no evidence #TrayvonMartin hit by anything. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 12:21:42 PM
Paraphrasing Mark Furman just now; The state is just trying to poke holes in a solid defense.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: seahorse on July 10, 2013, 12:35:23 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Guy: #GeorgeZimmerman didn't try other options before shooting? Root: "He did scream for help... I don't know what else he could have done."

Stun Gun?  Pepper Spray?  Bear Spray (reaches up to 35 feet)!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 12:38:21 PM
Paraphrasing Mark Furman just now; The state is just trying to poke holes in a solid defense.

Who here thinks that we have role reversal in this case?

I have to say this is one of the most bizarre and weakest cases I have ever seen or heard of tried. Normally what happens is the Prosecution lays out a solid case against a defendant with solid evidence and witnesses. The Defense then tries to poke holes or (reasonable doubt) in the State's case.

This case is just the opposite. The State (prosecution) does realize they have the burden of proof, correct? Many of the prosecution witnesses were actually better for the defense. Had it not been for a couple of rulings on the part of Judge Norton, especially the TM tweets on his cell phone, this case would be a KO.

Sorry, just have never seen anything like this, ever.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 12:38:54 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Here's your lunch break state-vs-defense dummy mounting collage: Prosecutor John Guy & defense attorney Mark O'Mara pic.twitter.com/VaGOE4nTDd (http://pic.twitter.com/VaGOE4nTDd)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355002091774816258/photo/1

(http://i.imgur.com/YcvClMH.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 12:47:09 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
#ZimmermanTrial: Pictures from today in court via @OSPhoto's @GaryWGreen | http://bit.ly/16r53cK  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 01:07:05 PM
Paraphrasing Mark Furman just now; The state is just trying to poke holes in a solid defense.

Who here thinks that we have role reversal in this case?

I have to say this is one of the most bizarre and weakest cases I have ever seen or heard of tried. Normally what happens is the Prosecution lays out a solid case against a defendant with solid evidence and witnesses. The Defense then tries to poke holes or (reasonable doubt) in the State's case.

This case is just the opposite. The State (prosecution) does realize they have the burden of proof, correct? Many of the prosecution witnesses were actually better for the defense. Had it not been for a couple of rulings on the part of Judge Norton, especially the TM tweets on his cell phone, this case would be a KO.

Sorry, just have never seen anything like this, ever.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 10, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
I think that this witness, use of force witness is excellent! He is holding his own and is interesting and easy to follow. Powerful witness in my opinion.
George is gonna walk. The defense has a much better case IMO.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 01:23:14 PM
So far Zimmerman's dad has not testified ... wonder if he will be the final witness  for the Defense?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:31:43 PM
I'm baaack!  Thank you, alagary!  Rest!  I'll take over Kathi's tweets!




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  9m 
There have been 91 sidebars during the #Zimmermantrial, says @GWarmothWFTV. #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
The defense expert said #Zimmermanon9 would not have been concerned about Martin once he ran away as far as getting out of his car.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:37:16 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
He says Martin would have gone for it. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense expert says if Martin was the aggressor he would not have yelled for help when #Zimmermanon9 went for the gun. 1/2


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:41:53 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
And did not get out of his vehicle until he thought Martin had run away. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense expert says the evidence shows #Zimmermanon9 was not confrontational because he did not call Martin an -sshole to his face 1/2


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:42:31 PM
I'm baaack!  Thank you, alagary!  Rest!  I'll take over Kathi's tweets!




Welcome back grace-land.   

Alagary did a very job posting the tweets imo.   He's gotten so much faster than when he was doing it earlier.   Especially since he discovered our secret on how to delete text.    ::MonkeyWink::   ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 01:44:53 PM
I think that this witness, use of force witness is excellent! He is holding his own and is interesting and easy to follow. Powerful witness in my opinion.
George is gonna walk. The defense has a much better case IMO.

Hi cookie!

I agree but ... I am somewhat concerned that jurors are not getting the entire picture.  Think about it.  The judiciary would not allow ANYTHING into evidence that cast TM's character prior to the incident in a negative light ... while allowing evidence vilifying GZ.  In other words ... the playing field was not even.  TM was not an innocent little kid walking home following a purchase of candy as portrayed by the prosecution.

Janet


Judge Rules Whether Trayvon’s Alleged Past Drug Use And School Suspension Permitted In Zimmerman Trial
5:25 pm, May 28th, 2013


During a pre-trial hearing Tuesday afternoon, a Florida judge ruled that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot use the late Trayvon Martin’s alleged prior marijuana use, school suspension, past fighting, personal text messages or pictures during its opening statement in next month’s high-profile second-degree murder trial. ....

The judge also ruled that she might allow the fact that a small amount of marijuana was found in Martin’s blood the night of the shooting, but only after hearing from experts about the toxicology tests performed on the late teenager. ....

<snipped>

Read more:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/judge-rules-whether-trayvons-past-drug-use-and-school-suspension-permitted-in-zimmerman-trial/


Zimmerman judge needs to read this case on authentication of text messages
July 10, 2013 at 7:11am


Judge Nelson stated that there was no evidence that Trayvon typed the texts even though the messages were on his phone and stored in DOUBLE-PASSWORD protected format using phone apps. …

The defense countered that its computer forensic expert, who testified, was able to track hundreds if not thousand of text messages on the phone and that the flow of conversations indicated it was Trayvon in context.

<snipped>

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-judge-needs-to-read-this-case-on-authentication-of-text-messages/


Breaking – Jury will not get to see Trayvon fighting texts
July 10, 2013 at 9:15am


The Judge in the Zimmerman trial just ruled that the jury will not get to see numerous text messages on Trayvon Martin’s phone regarding his prowess at fighting, including texts as to how to punch someone in the nose and make them bleed.

<snipped>

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/breaking-jury-will-not-get-to-see-trayvon-fighting-texts/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:44:57 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Gradually and that's how the defense would explain why #Zimmermanon9 's story changed in some ways in the first few days. 2/2

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The point of the testimony about kaw enforcement waiting 72 hours to take a statement is that the memory comes back 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@bklies 1:45pm. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation     

Moniluv  Moniluv  ‏@Moniluv2009  4m 
@KBelichWFTV & @VanessaEchols - I'm hearing bus loads of folks r coming in 4 the verdict. I pray that things are peaceful #zimmermantrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:44:59 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
@Preacher11 Technically, court wasn't still going, she had declared recess. I doubt anyone will be in trouble.
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#ZimmermanTrial resumes 1:45 p.m. | Watch: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@Preacher11 I'd be surprised. Based on the defense saying yesterday they planned to rest today, unlikely.
 View conversation


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:46:01 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 58s
Court is back in session, attorneys marking & admitting evidence exhibits. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
I'm baaack!  Thank you, alagary!  Rest!  I'll take over Kathi's tweets!




Welcome back grace-land.   

Alagary did a very job posting the tweets imo.   He's gotten so much faster than when he was doing it earlier.   Especially since he discovered our secret on how to delete text.    ::MonkeyWink::   ::bee::

Agree!  He did a great job!  ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:47:44 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Defense just submitted #GeorgeZimmerman's concealed weapon permit, another recent GZ non-emergency call state didn't play. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:48:54 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge asking #GeorgeZimmerman about testifying. He's sworn in. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge accepts those, also defense diagram of  shooting scene. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#GeorgeZimmerman says he still hasn't decided on testifying. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:51:03 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: When will you know? #GeorgeZimmerman: Maybe "at the end of the day." Nelson tells GZ he'll have more time to talk to attorneys.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:51:54 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Very testy between defense's West & Judge Nelson. West repeatedly objects to judge questioning #GeorgeZimmerman. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 01:52:11 PM
OK, head scratcher ... Was Casey Anthony ever asked by the judge if she was going to testify prior to the case being over,, ie defense rested?

What is going on with this bullying BS that is all of a sudden going on with her? She is beginning to show a real bias here. The judge is agitating and beginning to create a hostile environment.

The Judge is allowed to ask, but not at this point.

I think Zimmerman and his attorneys were completely taken off guard by what the judge just did.

This was completely premature and would have given the Prosecution an advantage to know whet the defense was going to do. UNREAL.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
July 10, 2010 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  51s 
Before the last defense witnesses have testified is rare in my experience. They don't let the state know in advance. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
#Zimmermanon9 said under oath that he does not want to testify in his defense at this point. Why the judge pressed for an answer 1/2


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:53:44 PM
July 9, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: When will you know? #GeorgeZimmerman: Maybe "at the end of the day." Nelson tells GZ he'll have more time to talk to attorneys.

Repost to correct date tweet date:  (I guess I was typing July 9, 2013 in my sleep last night)   ::MonkeyHaHa::

July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: When will you know? #GeorgeZimmerman: Maybe "at the end of the day." Nelson tells GZ he'll have more time to talk to attorneys.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:54:57 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@Juliette_Banks Read my subsequent tweets. Can't fit everything in 140 characters.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
No, the jury was not in court for that. RT @jkopecky: @JeffWeinerOS Was jury in room for that exchange?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
West noted case not over yet. Nelson to West, very sternly: "Your objection is over ruled." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:56:26 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Rare that a judge addresses the defendant testifying before all witnesses have testified since he said he didn't know. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 01:56:53 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 35s
No jurors yet. Root back on stand. O'Mara: After him I've got 2 short witnesses.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 01:57:48 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Rare that a judge addresses the defendant testifying before all witnesses have testified since he said he didn't know. #Zimmermanon9


YA THINK!!! Why doesn't she just ask the defense show in advance to the Prosecution what they plan to say in closing arguments? GEEZ!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 01:58:25 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The judge forced #Zimmermanon9 to answer about testifying despite his lawyer's objection. She has to ask him again anyway.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 01:59:11 PM
So far Zimmerman's dad has not testified ... wonder if he will be the final witness  for the Defense?

I hope so.  If TM's father were to uphold his son's character ... I would assume it would leave the door open for the Defence to produce evidence to the contrary.  Two police officers shot holes in Tracy Martin's Monday testimony for the Prosecution.

Janet

+++++

Trayvon Martin’s father: Screaming on 911 call is my son
Mon Jul 8, 2013 7:20 PM ED


Trayvon Martin’s father on Monday denied that he told police the person screaming in the background of a 911 call was not his son – contradicting the testimony of two officers who took the stand in the George Zimmerman trial.

Tracy Martin was called to the stand by the defense, which is hoping to convince jurors that Zimmerman is the one who was yelling for help, bolstering its assertion that he fired his gun because he was being attacked by the teen.

<snipped>

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/08/19355171-trayvon-martins-father-screaming-on-911-call-is-my-son?lite


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 02:00:20 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
I have never seen that in more than 30 years of court reporting. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:03:32 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root says he felt #GeorgeZimmerman's frustration was general, not specific to #TrayvonMartin. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Seen/heard people in anger, hate, ill will? Root: Yes. O'Mara: Evidenced in #GeorgeZImmerman call? "More of a frustration."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara continues questioning Root, asking about profanity in #GeorgeZimmerman's call reporting #TrayvonMartin. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
If defense gets through its witnesses, we should find out today. RT @ben_woods15: @JeffWeinerOS should we know if Z will testify today?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Jury returning, testimony of defense expert Dennis Root to resume. #ZimmmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:08:48 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman's f***ing punks comment show anger, hate, ill will toward #TrayvonMartin? Root: "Not individually." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 02:11:13 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Dana Chaaban ‏@DanaChaabanWFTV  4m 
West fails to go up to sidebar, instead speaking to #ZIMMERMANon9 likely attempting to dissuade him from testifying on his own behalf
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The lawyers appear to be looking back over previous testimony with the court reporter. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 02:13:47 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  57s 
@TimShutters They were not. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation      Reply 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The defense expert said #Zimmermanon9 did not handle the gun in a dangerous way.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:15:25 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root: I haven't testified as a self-defense expert before, but testified "a lot" for state during law enforcement career. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: Did #GeorgeZimmerman have any other option than shooting? Root: Based on evidence, "I don't believe he did." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 02:17:58 PM
I'm baaack!  Thank you, alagary!  Rest!  I'll take over Kathi's tweets!




Welcome back grace-land.   

Alagary did a very job posting the tweets imo.   He's gotten so much faster than when he was doing it earlier.   Especially since he discovered our secret on how to delete text.    ::MonkeyWink::   ::bee::
Back from a beer and ribs run. That helped Muffy but mostly it finally got through my thick head to not copy the whole thing.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 02:18:21 PM
OK, head scratcher ... Was Casey Anthony ever asked by the judge if she was going to testify prior to the case being over,, ie defense rested?

What is going on with this bullying BS that is all of a sudden going on with her? She is beginning to show a real bias here. The judge is agitating and beginning to create a hostile environment.

The Judge is allowed to ask, but not at this point.

I think Zimmerman and his attorneys were completely taken off guard by what the judge just did.

This was completely premature and would have given the Prosecution an advantage to know whet the defense was going to do. UNREAL.

When you consider the apparent judicial TM bias that has existed throughout the trial ... the question need to be asked "How much influence will the judge have when instructing the six jurors prior to deliberations?"

Janet



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:21:18 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Root on getting 1st punch to the nose: "You let the person know you're for real and it's devastating." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 02:23:42 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
He says the potential for negative
media coverage is just as great as positive coverage. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:24:11 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root says he enjoyed working in law enforcement, unsure on encouraging a younger family member to pursue. Depends on person. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:26:53 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root: Use of force ranges from verbal "all the way up to and including deadly force." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMArtin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:30:41 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Guy: Opinion #GeorgeZimmerman out of options based on his account? Root: No "based on the totality of his training background & experience."

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: Proper use of force in response to a push? Root: I'd take "position of advantage," use verbal commands. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:32:04 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 53s
Guy: Know what #TrayvonMartin was doing "at the moment he was shot?" Root: "I personally was not there," opinion from knowledge of evidence.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Guy: You're taking #GeorgeZimmerman's word on what #TrayvonMartin was doing? Root: That & other variables. "This all makes sense."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Evidence that #Zimmermanon9 shoved Martin. 2/2

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense asked the expert if someone shoved him would he punch the person in the nose. The state objected. There's no 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
He said a bloody blow to the nose could be stunning, cause problems with breathing. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
The defense expert says getting in the first blow to the face can be devastating to the other person in a fight. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  15m 
He said he looks at what was happening at the moment and the shooter's perception to evaluate the use of deadly force. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  18m 
He says #Zimmermanon9 had no other option but to fire based on the totality of circumstances and his lack of fighting skill.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#ZimmermanTrial: Defense may rest soon, #GeorgeZimmerman unsure about testifying | Updated: http://bit.ly/18N0YWK  #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 02:36:43 PM
OPEN THIS AND SAVE FOR LATER!

7/10/13 Docs: Justice Department facilitated anti-Zimmerman protests
 


"A division of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) was deployed to Sanford, Florida in 2012 to provide assistance for anti-George Zimmerman protests, including a rally headlined by activist Al Sharpton, according to newly released documents.

The Community Relations Service (CRS), a unit of DOJ, reported expenses related to its deployment in Sanford to help manage protests between March and April 2012, according to documents obtained by the watchdog group Judicial Watch.

CRS spent $674.14 between March 25-27 related to having been “deployed to Sanford, FL, to work marches, demonstrations, and rallies related to the shooting and death of an African-American teen by a neighborhood watch captain.” CRS spent another $1,142.84 for the same purpose between March 25-28."

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/10/doj-provided-security-for-anti-zimmerman-protests/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:38:01 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root: Not everyone has "warrior mindset," some stop fighting after taking a punch. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Guy: You've been punched in the nose before, stopped fighting? Root: "No, I'm a fighter." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 02:39:04 PM
Sorry, cant resist ... I am just wondering if I punched the wise A$$ prosecutor in the nose whether he would continue fighting (cross examining)  ::MonkeyEek::? My guess is no.

Speaking from experience from playing sports and some altercations, a blow to the nose is a sure fire way to stop a fight. A blow to the nose is a show stopper. Trust me, you see colors. If one does not have a threshold of pain and have had it happen to you before, one would stop fighting.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:39:37 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 49s
Guy: Moving wrist, could make shot 90 degrees to other person, right? Root: Depends on positions. "Possible" but not likely. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:42:40 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Guy: Know a federal marshal (Osterman) trained #GeorgeZimmerman to shoot? Root: "Yes. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 02:43:15 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The defense witness says #Zimmermanon9 was stressed about Martin when Martin approached him but Zimmerman didn't confront him.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:44:10 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42s
Guy: You're not an expert on memory retrieval, right? Root: "Memory retrieval, no sir." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:45:32 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Does #GeorgeZimmerman have "warrior mindset"? Root: "Everything that I've reviewed in this case would indicate the opposite."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:47:37 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara asks Root if evidence suggests #TrayvonMartin had warrior mentality. State objects. O'Mara: Door opened. Judge: Objection sustained.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:48:28 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Root excused, subject to recall. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:49:46 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28s
Bertalan: I was home w/son, heard doorbell ringing. "Two young African American guys." Called mom, police. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Next witness: Olivia Bertalan, former #GeorgeZImmerman neighbor, burglary victim. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMArtin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:50:48 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 56s
Bertalan: Men broke in, armed myself with rust scissors & locked herself in son's bedroom. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:52:01 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26s
Bertalan: Suspect eventually arrested, Emmanuel Burgess. O'Mara done questioning. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Bertalan: Burglars "escaped before the cops" arrived. Took camera, laptop. Tried to take TV. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:53:18 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
O'Mara objects to state's 1st question, jurors led away for proffer testimony. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 02:53:30 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
She said they tried to get in. She only had rusty scissors. They left with stolen items. One of them was arrested. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
She said two African American males broke into her house and she was locked in a room with her 9-month-old son. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The defense has called Olivia Bertalan, #Zimmermanon9 's former neighbor who was the victim of a home invasion.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 02:55:43 PM
Sorry, cant resist ... I am just wondering if I punched the wise A$$ prosecutor in the nose whether he would continue fighting (cross examining)  ::MonkeyEek::? My guess is no.

Speaking from experience from playing sports and some altercations, a blow to the nose is a sure fire way to stop a fight. A blow to the nose is a show stopper. Trust me, you see colors. If one does not have a threshold of pain and have had it happen to you before, one would stop fighting.

Could this be the reason that both the judicial and the prosecutor did not want TM's texts submitted as evidence ... TM's text that were protected with a DOUBLE-PASSWORD app.  In other words ... the chances of those texts originating from any other source but TM was almost nil.

Janet



Breaking – Jury will not get to see Trayvon fighting texts
July 10, 2013 at 9:15 am


The Judge in the Zimmerman trial just ruled that the jury will not get to see numerous text messages on Trayvon Martin’s phone regarding his prowess at fighting, including texts as to how to punch someone in the nose and make them bleed.

<snipped>

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/breaking-jury-will-not-get-to-see-trayvon-fighting-texts/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 02:56:09 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
She says she and #Zimmermanon9 talked about it 20 times or so. The defense has no objection so the jury will hear it.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The jury has left while the state questions #Zimmermanon9 's neighbor about the home invasion and their conversations about it.

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  2m 
UPDATE: #Zimmerman hasn't made up his mind on testifying: http://at.wftv.com/13M4mij  #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 02:58:51 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Bertalan: Suspect Burgess lived in the neighborhood. Testimony proffer over. After proffer, O'Mara withdraws objection. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Bertalan: #GeorgeZImmerman came to house after burglary, gave his phone number. Bertalan gave description. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:01:09 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
Guy has Bertalan repeat what she said in proffer, now asking her if she tweeted about/watched trial so far. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 03:02:27 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Bertalan: Suspect Burgess lived in the neighborhood. Testimony proffer over. After proffer, O'Mara withdraws objection. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Bertalan: #GeorgeZImmerman came to house after burglary, gave his phone number. Bertalan gave description. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

There is no way the prosecution better go after this witness as to what she may or may not have Tweeted. We have already heard from the judge that anyone could have used any phone with regards to her not allowing the TM fighting tweets come in. Noticed how he backed off that really fast.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:02:59 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57s
O'Mara: You appreciated #GeorgeZimmerman's help? Bertalan: "Very... We were terrified when this happened." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Bertalan: I watched some trial testimony (mentions #GeorgeZimmerman's uncle), talked to Nancy Grace a while ago. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:03:34 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Bertalan: Suspect Burgess lived in the neighborhood. Testimony proffer over. After proffer, O'Mara withdraws objection. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Bertalan: #GeorgeZImmerman came to house after burglary, gave his phone number. Bertalan gave description. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

There is no way the prosecution better go after this witness as to what she may or may not have Tweeted. We have already heard from the judge that anyone could have used any phone with regards to her not allowing the TM fighting tweets come in. Noticed how he backed off that really fast.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
She said #Zimmermanon9 helped her because she was terrified and offered his wife's companionship and help as a nursing student.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The witness admits she watched #Zimmermanon9 's uncle testify, follows defense website and was on Nancy Grace last year.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The prosecutor is grilling the home invasion victim about her traumatic ordeal. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:05:19 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Bertalan: I watched some trial testimony (mentions #GeorgeZimmerman's uncle), talked to Nancy Grace a while ago. #ZimmermanTrial

 LakeCrazy™LakeCrazy™ ‏@Lakecrazy 2m
@JeffWeinerOS Nancy Grace over a year ago..not a while ago

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@Lakecrazy A year ago isn't a while ago?

12:04 PM - 10 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:06:20 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman brought you a better lock for sliding door? Bertalan: Yes, "I was very appreciative." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:06:29 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
She said neighbors were all talking about it.  She said #Zimmermanon9 gave her a lock for the sliding glass door.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:07:46 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Next witness: Robert Zimmerman Sr., #GeorgeZImmerman's father. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:08:44 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The defense called #Zimmermanon9 's father Robert, Sr. to testify.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
She said #Zimmermanon9 was helpful but not wierd.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:09:11 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Zimmerman Sr. asked about 911 call with screams. Will be asked to identify screamer. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Zimmerman Sr. says he's lived in Central Florida almost 7 years. Identifies #GeorgeZimmerman in courtroom. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:10:28 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Zimmerman Sr. on identifying voice: "I told them absolutely, it's my son George." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Zimmerman Sr.: 1st heard recording in courthouse, in state attorney's office. Listened with headphones. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:11:25 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23s
O'Mara asks for a break, jury led out for 15 minute recess. No more defense witnesses. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR asks how many times Zimmerman Sr. heard call, says "at least six." Excused. #GeorgeZimmerman #TravonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:12:57 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 50s
#GeorgeZimmerman confirms his attorneys called all witnesses he wanted called. Recess. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson says she'll ask #GeorgeZImmerman about whether he will testify after the break. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:16:19 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  14s 
Now that the defense is done calling witnesses the judge will ask #Zimmermanon9 again whether he wants to testify. This is when it's done.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  22s 
Court is in recess for 15 minutes. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Was screaming. That contrasts with how Martin's family listened to the call. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
#Zimmermanon9 's father was under oath when he listened to the 911 call at the Seminole County State Attorney's office. He said George 1/2

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  6m 
BREAKING: #GeorgeZimmerman's father has taken the stand. WATCH LIVE: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  #Zimmermanon9 pic.twitter.com/wKDAGiLSkA
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:17:07 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
#GeorgeZimmerman confirms his attorneys called all witnesses he wanted called. Recess. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Victor MarchandVictor Marchand ‏@OCCUPYTWITTA 3m
@JeffWeinerOS That means GZ will NOT testify?!

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@OCCUPYTWITTA No, GZ will be asked about that after the break.

12:16 PM - 10 Jul 13 (GMT-07:00) · Details

 Victor MarchandVictor Marchand ‏@OCCUPYTWITTA 1m
@JeffWeinerOS I thought that defense atty's saying they have no more witness would include GZ as witness.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Green Eyes on July 10, 2013, 03:17:34 PM
Sorry, cant resist ... I am just wondering if I punched the wise A$$ prosecutor in the nose whether he would continue fighting (cross examining)  ::MonkeyEek::? My guess is no.

Speaking from experience from playing sports and some altercations, a blow to the nose is a sure fire way to stop a fight. A blow to the nose is a show stopper. Trust me, you see colors. If one does not have a threshold of pain and have had it happen to you before, one would stop fighting.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:18:10 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Note: Defense apparently to rest w/o a mention of THC in #TrayvonMartin's system. Judge allowed it, but def didn't present. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@captainfish Judge has to confirm w/defendant that decision to/not to testify is his. Typically happens just prior to defense rest.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  3m 
UPDATE: Defense calls last witness; #GeorgeZimmerman deciding if to testify http://at.wftv.com/13M4mij  #Zimmermanon9 pic.twitter.com/J8CuvIcKYN
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 03:25:40 PM
Well I really can't imagine that that Zimmerman will take the stand. If you ever wanted to see the pictorial definition of nervous, its George Zimmerman.

He is almost in brain lock at this point because of the circumstances as seen by his answers to the judge of what would be easy to respond to.  GZ has obviously not been prepped to testify.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 03:30:11 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@ipodruler23 No, nothing on him yet.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
@lightgraphs Active ingredient in marijuana.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
Well I really can't imagine that that Zimmerman will take the stand. If you ever wanted to see the pictorial definition of nervous, its George Zimmerman.

He is almost in brain lock at this point because of the circumstances as seen by his answers to the judge of what would be easy to respond to.  GZ has obviously not been prepped to testify.

Wasn't Anthony just a simple question and a no?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:39:27 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
O'Mara renewing his motion for a judgement of acquittal. Jury still outside of courtroom. #Zimmermanon9

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  4m 
BREAKING: #GeorgeZimmerman has decided not to testify in his 2nd degree murder trial. #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
Posted: 2:58 p.m. Wednesday, July 10, 2013
Defense calls last witness; Zimmerman deciding whether he’ll testify


Defense attorneys said Wednesday they are finished calling witnesses in George Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial.
Court is currently in recess and will resume shortly. At that time, Zimmerman will let Judge Debra Nelson know whether he wants to testify.

When asked by Nelson earlier, Zimmerman said he hoped to make a decision by the end of the day.
Defense attorney Don West objected several times to the judge's asking if Zimmerman would testify, but the judge sternly overruled him.

Jurors were out of the courtroom at the time.

<snipped>

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/defense-seeks-introduce-trayvon-martins-texts/nYkjf/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 03:43:37 PM
Did I miss something?  Story of my life.

Janet

+++++

Judge allows evidence of Trayvon Martin's marijuana use
updated 6:54 AM EDT, Tue July 9, 2013


The Florida judge presiding over George Zimmerman's murder trial ruled Monday that jurors will be allowed to hear about marijuana found in Trayvon Martin's system the night he was fatally shot.

Prosecutors argued the amount was so minimal that "we just don't know" what effect it had on Martin. They also accused the defense of trying to "backdoor some very negative character evidence" into the trial.

But the defense said the amount found in Martin's system would have affected his judgment that night and is therefore relevant to the case.

Judge Debra Nelson ruled she would allow the testimony about Martin's toxicology results in front of the jury and told the prosecutors they would be able to cross-examine the defense's witness and present rebuttal witnesses of their own.

<snipped>

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/08/justice/zimmerman-trial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Jury is coming back in so the defense can rest and state can call rebuttal witnesses. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Judge has denied the defense's judgment of acquittal. She just brought up Donnelly issue. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:46:51 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  54s 
STORY: #GeorgeZimmerman will not testify; defense rests its case: http://at.wftv.com/13M4mij  #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 03:47:33 PM
This is not rebuttal!!! The witness is being called back to stand to smear him. This question should have been done during cross, not now. The prosecution knows this and its a sleazy way to get this in front of the jury. They should be sanctioned for this crap.

GOOD GRIEF.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 03:48:25 PM
 
Say What!? Gym Where George Zimmerman Trained For MMA Fighting Is Offering "Zimmerman Classes



http://globalgrind.com/news/kokopellis-gym-where-george-zimmerman-trained-mma-fighting-offering-zimmerman-classes-photos


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:48:30 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  59s 
State asked Pollock if he is marketing his training as the same training for #ZimmermanOn9. Objection called.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 03:52:21 PM
This is not rebuttal!!! The witness is being called back to stand to smear him. This question should have been done during cross, not now. The prosecution knows this and its a sleazy way to get this in front of the jury. They should be sanctioned for this crap.

GOOD GRIEF.

This is why O'Mara asked the judge that he wanted to know what the State was going to ask this rebuttal witness. The judge said that he could object when asked. GUESS SHE BLEW IT AGAIN!!!

You cant put the genie back in the bottle. The jury heard the question that was completely improper, and the State knew it was.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: tupelohoney on July 10, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/george-zimermans-mma-gym-offers-customers-the-zimmerman-training-program/

George Zimerman’s MMA Gym Offers Customers The ‘Zimmerman’ Training Program
by Tommy Christopher | 2:55 pm, July 10th, 2013


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 03:53:52 PM
(http://static.globalgrind.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_images_540/images/2013_july/screen_shot_2013-07-10_at_9.31.10_am.png)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:54:58 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Pollock denies advertising #Zimmerman's training on his website. The page in question: pic.twitter.com/umqqhH9Dnl via @evanbenn #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
This is not rebuttal!!! The witness is being called back to stand to smear him. This question should have been done during cross, not now. The prosecution knows this and its a sleazy way to get this in front of the jury. They should be sanctioned for this crap.

GOOD GRIEF.

This is why O'Mara asked the judge that he wanted to know what the State was going to ask this rebuttal witness. The judge said that he could object when asked. GUESS SHE BLEW IT AGAIN!!!

You cant put the genie back in the bottle. The jury heard the question that was completely improper, and the State knew it was.

IF the background of one is relevant … it would go without saying that the background of BOTH Martin and Zimmerman would be relevant. There does appears to be a prosecution and judicial double standard regarding the submission of evidence?

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN

Judge allows George Zimmerman school records into evidence
July 3, 2013


The prosecution in the George Zimmerman murder case introduced his school and medical records into evidence Wednesday, a move aimed at showing that the neighborhood watch volunteer was familiar with self-defense law and had hopes of a career in law enforcement. …

Judge Debra S. Nelson on Wednesday ruled in favor of a prosecution motion to admit Zimmerman’s school records, his job application to a Virginia police agency and his request to the Sanford police to go on a ride-along with officers.

The defense had argued that the records were irrelevant to what happened on the rainy night when Zimmerman and Martin had their clash.

The prosecution is hoping the records and applications will support the theory that Zimmerman was a wannabe cop who became increasingly frustrated by incidents of crime in his gated community. When Zimmerman saw Martin, the prosecution maintains, the neighborhood watch volunteer profiled the teenager, followed him and then had a confrontation that led to Martin being shot to death.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-murder-school-records-20130703,0,7831562.story


TRAYVON MARTIN

Judge Rules Whether Trayvon’s Alleged Past Drug Use And School Suspension Permitted In Zimmerman Trial
May 28th, 2013


During a pre-trial hearing Tuesday afternoon, a Florida judge ruled that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot use the late Trayvon Martin’s alleged prior marijuana use, school suspension, past fighting, personal text messages or pictures during its opening statement in next month’s high-profile second-degree murder trial.

This comes nearly a week after Zimmerman’s lawyer Mark O’Mara made the cable news rounds, showing off new photographs taken from Martin’s cellphone, including a shot of a marijuana plant and an unidentified hand holding a gun:

O’Mara had also claimed his team had obtained text messages in which Martin talks about organized fighting. “He got mo hits cause in da 1st round. He had me on da ground nd I couldn’t do ntn,” reads one text from November 2011. ….

The judge also ruled that she might allow the fact that a small amount of marijuana was found in Martin’s blood the night of the shooting, but only after hearing from experts about the toxicology tests performed on the late teenager. ….

O’Mara also informed the court that his team had obtained video of three fights, two of which include Martin acting as referee. “There is certainly enough evidence,” he told the judge, “that’s going to suggest Trayvon Martin involved himself ongoingly with fighting with other people.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/judge-rules-whether-trayvons-past-drug-use-and-school-suspension-permitted-in-zimmerman-trial/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 03:58:31 PM
June 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@MissParalegal13 Not in the state of Florida. #ZimmermanOn9
View conversation   
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 04:01:29 PM
Another site I monitor that has a few lawyers says this could be the gyms way for media questions about Zs training


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:02:02 PM
Conversation

July 10, 2013 Tweets

Shannon Goss ‏@MissParalegal13  7m 
@KBelichWFTV Is the jury not allowed to question the witnesses or experts in FL murder cases?

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
@MissParalegal13 Not in the state of Florida. #ZimmermanOn9
Hide conversation   
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 04:03:03 PM
Or the gym site was hacked by a 7 year old that knew the password


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:03:57 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Court in recess for 15 minutes.  #ZimmermanOn9




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 04:08:19 PM
Or the gym site was hacked by a 7 year old that knew the password

I heard the gym website had two passwords.  ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:12:10 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@kg4u Defense witness Donnelly was in the courtroom before his testimony. Judge will address. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation     


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Mere on July 10, 2013, 04:13:04 PM
This whole case has been so disturbing....from the 1st day.  The one person who could have pulled it together and showed a professional demeanor for the world who is watching...is the Judge....and it didnt happen.  I don't think that this has been a fair trial.  I think GZ is being railroaded.  Who knows if he is innocent or guilty.....and of what???

When I heard that, if they can't prove Murder 2, then the jurors can go right down the line from one charge to another until they have something to put him in jail and make "everyone happy", I got nauseated.  Now I am afraid of ever being in
a situation where I would be in court.

Thanks to all of you who are providing us with up-to-date information... :smt054


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:16:28 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
RT @zanEcho: #Zimmermanon9 @KBelichWFTV honorable mention for kathi at national review online


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:18:28 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
@zanEcho Thanks for sharing, Wendi.
View conversation   
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:20:02 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@TheZubias Defense objected to prosecution question about Pollock marketing #Zimmerman's gym training on website. #zimmermanon9
View conversation     


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 04:22:09 PM
O/T the boston bomber brother pled not guilty


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:22:39 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@The23_ She brought it up, but it hasn't been discussed yet. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@TheZubias Jury and Pollock is sent out as lawyers discuss. Court in recess for 15 minutes. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:28:33 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Also on Adam Pollock's gym website: 31-minute video of his #Zimmermantrial testimony --> http://www.kogym.com/videos.htm  #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Court back in session.  Judge is asking the State's motives for recalling Pollock to the stand. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Nelson: you can't call a witness for the sole purpose of impeachment. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 04:29:40 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@The23_ She brought it up, but it hasn't been discussed yet. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@TheZubias Jury and Pollock is sent out as lawyers discuss. Court in recess for 15 minutes. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation


How comical is this that the State tried to impeach their own witness. Man this prosecution has been nothing short of a disaster.

Judge Norton disallows rebuttal witness testimony.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: tupelohoney on July 10, 2013, 04:29:56 PM
http://www.kogym.com/videos.htm

Reason for impeachment


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 04:31:31 PM
The State is now not calling their next rebuttal witness because obviously they were going to pull the same stunt as they did with the first rebuttal witness.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
State decided to NOT call Lee back to the stand during rebuttal. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Jury is not back in the courtroom yet. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
State agreed to release Pollock; Defense now asking purpose of recalling Lee to the stand during rebuttal. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Nelson sustained the objection.  State has option to ask a different line of questioning or move onto the next witness. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:35:41 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55m
Nelson denies motion for aquittal. Says evidence enough to go forward. #ZimmemanTrial #TrayvonMartin #GEorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 56m
Mantei: Evidence could sustain "both murder and the lesser included manslaughter." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57m
Prosecutor Mantei: Root's testimony isn't uncontroverted, Di Maio acknowledged alternate #TrayvonMartin pulling away theory possible.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 58m
O'Mara concludes brief JOA argument: "I would ask that the charges be dismissed in full." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59m
O'Mara: Defense has presented "uncontroverted evidence" of self defense, including Root & Di Maio testimony. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59m
#GeorgeZimmerman defense renews motion for judgment of acquittal, ruling that would end trial. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
#GeorgeZimmerman confirmed decision not to testify was his own. State will call rebuttal witnesses. 2-3. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Breaking: #GeorgeZimmerman will not testify in his second-degree murder trial, he tells judge. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
O'Mara also enters into evidence still photos of #TrayvonMartin at 7-Eleven, #GeorgeZimmerman's injuries, aerial shots, etc. #ZimmemranTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Court resumes. O'Mara wants to submit defense timeline into evidence. BDLR: Once we confirm accuracy, no objection. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:37:05 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets


 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43m
The gym's page apparently can't handle #ZimmermanTrial traffic. Screengrab of #GeorgeZimmerman page: pic.twitter.com/Cyhmi9TfVO (http://pic.twitter.com/Cyhmi9TfVO)

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 46m
@gaijin42 Link: http://bit.ly/13NxUfn
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 48m
Here's the "Zimmerman" page from the website for Pollock's MMA gym: http://bit.ly/13NxUfn  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 50m
Mantei: Are you now marketing #GeorgeZimmerman training on your website? Pollock: "Absolutely not." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51m
#ZimmermanTrial: Defense rests, #GeorgeZimmerman will not testify | Updated: http://bit.ly/18N0YWK  #TrayvonMartin
 
 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 52m
With jury back in courtroom, defense rests. State calls Adam Pollock, #GeorgeZimmerman's trainer, for rebuttal. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55m
State rebuttal witnesses for today: Adam Pollock & David Lee. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:38:40 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
Mantei back arguing: Says he's not calling Pollock to impeach him. Maybe to impeach Root. #ZimmemanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
Video: For those who missed it, here's that tense West/Nelson exchange from earlier today http://bit.ly/13NFkPY  #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
@Loansbycameron Could be to give lawyers time to research/argue defense's objection to this testimony.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
@kissmebeautiful They haven't argued that yet. Was expected this morning, but didn't happen.

 Jorge K GonzalezJorge K Gonzalez ‏@jorgekgonzalez 28m
@judgealexferrer is live on #fox35 with his take on what's happening in the Zimmerman trial today.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29m
#ZimmermanTrial: #GeorgeZimmerman will not testify, state begins rebuttal | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18N0YWK  #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39m
Jury sent back out. Pollock still on the stand, but first: 15 minute recess. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42m
Long sidebar as lawyers debate whether this is proper rebuttal testimony. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Sentinel PhotoSentinel Photo ‏@OSPhoto 44m
Five things to know about OSPhoto's Zimmerman courtroom photography: http://thesent.nl/1aAkDYY
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:39:57 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara says officer #GeorgeZimmerman was accused of assaulting was in plain clothes. Charge later dropped. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara says testimony about prior #GeorgeZimmerman arrest a "prior bad act," shouldn't be admitted. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
State also plans to call alcohol agent #GeorgeZimmerman was accused of assaulting in 2005. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Mantei: State also not calling its second rebuttal witness, David Lee. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Pollock will not testify about his website. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Nelson: State trying "to impeach your own witness... I don't think that that's allowed." Defense objection sustained. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
O'Mara: "Common sense" says Pollock wouldn't use #GeorgeZimmerman to advertise gym. GZ didn't progress. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:40:03 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Both Defense and State said they could take 3 hours each for closing arguments. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  55s 
Nelson: Jury will be dismissed for the day. There may be more testimony in the morning then closing arguments. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara indicates defense may object to applicability of manslaughter in jury instructions. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
State & defense agree, closings will take three hours. Could start tomorrow. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
State: No other rebuttal witnesses, prior #GeorgeZimmerman arrest issue will be taken up tomorrow. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Sonni AbattaSonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 5m
Defense:  This is ancient in time and act and was a "non-event to begin with."  Does not prove #Zimmerman is a fighter.  #Fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: If state brings in #GeorgeZimmerman's prior arrest as character evidence, defense could call 30 to counter it. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:43:16 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Jury to be excused for the day, then lawyers will discuss John Donnelly, witness who was in court before his testimony. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:44:04 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Jury is being called back into the courtroom to be dismissed for the day.  #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Nelson would like to have closing arguments finished tomorrow Jury could begin hearing arguments at 10 a.m. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge tells jury court "anticipates" closings tomorrow. Jurors to return 10 a.m. tomorrow. ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMArtin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 04:45:17 PM
Quote
Sonni AbattaSonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 5m
Defense:  This is ancient in time and act and was a "non-event to begin with."  Does not prove #Zimmerman is a fighter.  #Fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: If state brings in #GeorgeZimmerman's prior arrest as character evidence, defense could call 30 to counter it. #ZimmermanTrial

So Zimmerman's prior bad acts, which by all accounts was a trumped us bunch of BS can be considered, but TM's prior bad acts can't be? HA! Wow is all I have to say.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 04:49:46 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
State claims a discovery violation with Donnelly's testimony and would like his testimony stricken. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Hearing about Donnelly underway in courtroom. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:51:53 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Violations add up to "to establish that there has been some procedural prejudice." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: 2 other violations: O'Mara had Good check defense's animation, Bertalan watched trial testimony. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei: Donnelly listened to 911 audio (screams) for 1st time after being in court, later testified on it. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Mantei: Court provided "clips from videos" that show Donnelly was in court 6/25 & 6/26. #ZimmermanTrail #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Next up: Donnelly. State has motioned for sanctions. Mantei arguing. #ZimmermanTrial #georgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Green Eyes on July 10, 2013, 04:53:00 PM
Quote
Sonni AbattaSonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 5m
Defense:  This is ancient in time and act and was a "non-event to begin with."  Does not prove #Zimmerman is a fighter.  #Fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: If state brings in #GeorgeZimmerman's prior arrest as character evidence, defense could call 30 to counter it. #ZimmermanTrial

So Zimmerman's prior bad acts, which by all accounts was a trumped us bunch of BS can be considered, but TM's prior bad acts can't be? HA! Wow is all I have to say.

If this is what our judicial system has come down too. How sad.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:53:44 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42s
@MyPerog @drgoddess @judgealexferrer Yes, in surrebuttal.

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Standard is if violation "changed the witness' testimony." Says Donnelly's change is "radical." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei is again arguing Donnelly's testimony should be struck. Reading caselaw. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:54:43 PM
Kangaroo Court.  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 04:57:55 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17s
O'Mara now arguing: Says state's witness, Dr. Shiping Bao, also changed opinions. Judge: That's not a sequestration issue. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
FYI: #GeorgeZimmerman defense's Mark O'Mara will hold press conference after court today. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei: Striking "not quite the nuclear option, but a severe sanction." Says no alternative. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:01:33 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara says Schumaker and Good never spoke, O'Mara acted as intermediary, so no violation. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson: "I am investigating" possibility of another witness violating the rule. Says that person wasn't called, may have been on both lists.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:03:09 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  5m 
The issue at hand: defense witness Donnelly was in court before his testimony. #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:03:53 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: Donnelly present for testimony of Dorival (SPD watch liason), O'Brien (HOA pres), Bahadoor (neighbor), Smith (CSI). #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:06:15 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@gennpooh http://bit.ly/10EhrEz

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: "What he did was not change his testimony, he added to it," by listening to screams. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: Donnelly also in court for Surdyka (another neighbor-witness). Then West noticed him, said couldn't be there. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:07:18 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
Donnelly was in court on Day offend part of Day 3. Mantei: Strike his testimony. O'Mara: Wasn't a willful or substantive viiolation.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:09:51 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
O'Mara says Don West noticed Donnelly in court and asked him to leave. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara says defense later decided to call Donnelly, after finding out he had opinion on the 911 call screams. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: GZ's parents weren't allowed in court, Shellie asked Donnelly to sit w/her. "We had no intention of calling him" at that point.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:12:32 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Here again is pic I tweeted yesterday of Donnelly in court for #ZimmermanTrial 6/25. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/UkRUjJHWvo (http://pic.twitter.com/UkRUjJHWvo)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  28s 
Nelson questioning #ZimmermanOn9's wife (Shellie) presence in court since she was also under the same sequestration rule.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
#ZimmermanOn9's wife had asked Donnelly to accompany here to trial and he did hear some of the testimony.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets (http://July 10, 2013 Tweets)
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge Nelson: Shellie Zimmerman also subject to rule, wasn't in court 6/25 & 6/26. O'Mara: She asked for Donnelly to stay in support of GZ

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
He's top right of that photo, over #GeorgeZimmerman's left shoulder. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:14:44 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Nelson is now explaining the engineering behind the courtroom rows and seats. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:16:03 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 37s
West: When I noticed Donnelly, told him "court had invoked the rule of sequestration." JD apologized. #GeorgeZimmerman #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:18:48 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West acknowdges counsel/staff responsible for telling witnesses about rule, but says there were 100s. Doesn't think JD told. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:19:54 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
O'Mara tells Judge Nelson that Donnelly was sitting in the second row. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:20:09 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: If counsel knows, testimony "must" be excluded. Defense knew JD broke rule, later called him to testify. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West says he doesn't know what row Donnelly was in, Nelson says she can't tell from picture. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:24:34 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  32s 
Nelson said she didn't think Donnelly knew he couldn't be in court. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
#BREAKING: Nelson just ruled that sanction are DENIED!  Donnelly's testimony stays. #ZimmermanOn9

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  1m 
NOW: Judge Debra Nelson: "The court is very, very, very, very concerned. And for those who want to know that's 4 verys." #ZIMMERMANon9.
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Mantei said Donnelly's testimony must be thrown out because defense knew he was in courtroom before his testimony. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:25:17 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson denies motion, Donnelly's testimony won't be struck. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Judge Nelson doesn't believe Donnelly knew he wasn't allowed in court. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
Thud!! 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 05:26:07 PM
whoop dee doo look how impartial she is on something that don't mean squat


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:26:09 PM
July 10, 2013 Tuesday

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Attorney's are at the bench.  #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:27:11 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7s
Just in: Special Prosecutor Angela Corey will answer media questions "immediately following" verdict #ZimmermanTrial. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Attorneys in sidebar now, could will recess for the evening soon unless they're going to debate jury instructions. #ZimmermanTrail

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 4m
Judge: I will not sanction defense because Donnelly was in court when he shud not have been. Seems no one told him.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:29:14 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Time for jury instruction debate. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:31:36 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Up next: Jury instruction rules. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:32:03 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Just in: Special Prosecutor Angela Corey will answer media questions "immediately following" verdict #ZimmermanTrial. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Inoculated City ‏@Inoculated_City 3m
@JeffWeinerOS will this be live-streamed from the OS site?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@Inoculated_City Yup, same link as usual: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz

2:30 PM - 10 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:33:12 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
State & defense agree on most instructions so far. Argument coming later on lesser offenses state wants jury to consider. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Defense objects to those lesser included offenses, will be argued later. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
State is asking for two lesser included offenses: Manslaughter & aggravated assault. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:34:50 PM
Thud!! 

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked019.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:37:08 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

(opened conversation)


Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
State & defense agree on most instructions so far. Argument coming later on lesser offenses state wants jury to consider. #ZimmermanTrial

 N8K8Mom ‏@N8K8Mom 2m
@JeffWeinerOS Just curious, who is the lead attorney for the state, is it Mantei?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@N8K8Mom Bernie de la Rionda

2:36 PM - 10 Jul 13 · Details

 N8K8Mom ‏@N8K8Mom 1m
@JeffWeinerOS ty, that's what I thought, but he's been quiet today


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:37:45 PM
Thud!! 

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked019.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


There's that little dude/dudette!!  Thank you again, grace-land!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:37:52 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  21s 
O'Mara is asking for a postponement of closing arguments.  Nelson agrees so closing arguments will start at 1 p.m. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Manslaughter charges will be argued tomorrow morning.  Prosecution wants jurors to listen to manslaugher and assault charges. #ZimmermanOn9

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  7m 
NOW: Lesser charges to be included: manslaughter and aggravated assult. #ZIMMERMANon9.
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:38:58 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara asks to delay closings. Nelson: State give closing 1 p.m. tomorrow, defense Friday. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:40:16 PM
Thud!! 

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There's that little dude/dudette!!  Thank you again, grace-land!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyHaHa:: dudette >>> (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked017.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:40:18 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Court in recess until 9 a.m., jury to return at 1 p.m. for state's closing. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:40:58 PM
Thud!! 

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There's that little dude/dudette!!  Thank you again, grace-land!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

  ::MonkeyHaHa:: dudette >>> (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked017.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 10, 2013, 05:41:15 PM
Finally get a chance to cut my grass.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:43:55 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Richard Hornsby ‏@RichardHornsby 4m
@JeffWeinerOS So only lessers requested were Manslaughter and Agg. Assault? No others?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@RichardHornsby Based on what I just heard, yes. Also special finding re firearm & 10-20-life for Agg. Assault.
2:42 PM - 10 Jul 13 · Details

 Richard Hornsby ‏@RichardHornsby 50s
@JeffWeinerOS He gets convicted of that with firearm finding and he gets same sentence as if convicted of Second Degree Murder.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:44:09 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
MT @WFTV: Jury could begin deliberations by Friday afternoon. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Jury instructions will start tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. to discuss jury instruction. Closing arguments will begin at 1 p.m. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 05:44:50 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  21s 
O'Mara is asking for a postponement of closing arguments.  Nelson agrees so closing arguments will start at 1 p.m. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Manslaughter charges will be argued tomorrow morning.  Prosecution wants jurors to listen to manslaugher and assault charges. #ZimmermanOn9

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  7m 
NOW: Lesser charges to be included: manslaughter and aggravated assult. #ZIMMERMANon9.
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV

They are bound and determined to get GZ for something, even if its j-walking. My personal belief is that the State should be bound to properly charge up front and not be able to fall back on lesser charges because they cannot or did not prove what they set out to do. JMHO.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:46:37 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Richard Hornsby ‏@RichardHornsby 7m
@JeffWeinerOS So only lessers requested were Manslaughter and Agg. Assault? No others?

 Mo Social ‏@MoSocialComment 4m
@RichardHornsby @JeffWeinerOS wasn't there also death by discharge of a firearm or something to that affect ?

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@MoSocialComment @RichardHornsby That's called a "special finding." Enhances the possible sentences of the other charges.
2:45 PM - 10 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:47:21 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  21s 
O'Mara is asking for a postponement of closing arguments.  Nelson agrees so closing arguments will start at 1 p.m. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Manslaughter charges will be argued tomorrow morning.  Prosecution wants jurors to listen to manslaugher and assault charges. #ZimmermanOn9

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  7m 
NOW: Lesser charges to be included: manslaughter and aggravated assult. #ZIMMERMANon9.
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV

They are bound and determined to get GZ for something, even if its j-walking. My personal belief is that the State should be bound to properly charge up front and not be able to fall back on lesser charges because they cannot or did not prove what they set out to do. JMHO.

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I agree with you on that, Red.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:48:34 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
For those interested in lesser-included charges, @RichardHornsby has a really informative post on that here: http://bit.ly/13KEvqY


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:49:50 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Thanks for following along today, tweeps. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Defense's @markomaralaw is holding a press conference after court. Follow @RHughesWFTV. He has you covered. #Zimmermanon9




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:50:34 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 18m
State & defense agree on most instructions so far. Argument coming later on lesser offenses state wants jury to consider. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jada ‏@MiseducationofJ 2m
@JeffWeinerOS did State say who would be doing closing for them?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@MiseducationofJ No, not that I heard.
2:49 PM - 10 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 05:51:56 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
I may not b able to tweet upcoming O'Mara presser. Here's a link to the live stream: http://bit.ly/11wpinH  #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 05:55:12 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/RHughesWFTV

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  2m 
Awaiting press conference with @Markomaralaw. #ZIMMERMANon9.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 06:00:12 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

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Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  48s 
Mark O'Mara at press conference now. #ZIMMERMANon9. pic.twitter.com/yICQWaLaZc


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 06:01:43 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/RHughesWFTV

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  1m 
"I think he wanted to tell his story." - Mark O'Mara about #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/RHughesWFTV

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  1m 
Mark O'Mara about #GeorgeZimmerman: "He's worried." #ZIMMERMANon9.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 06:07:41 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/RHughesWFTV

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  1m 
Mark O'Mara doesn't want a sympathy verdict, he says. #ZIMMERMANon9.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 06:07:57 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Concerned about compromise verdict if lesseroffenses offered? O'Mara: "Absolutely... should be an affirmative just verdict." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: No more rebuttal coming from state, testimony is done. "We're done." #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
How does 10-20-Life apply? O'Mara: "It doesn't. They need a conviction before that applies." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Animation to be used in defense closing? O'Mara: "Sure, I believe so, why not?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: Hope public thinks we did what had to defend #GeorgeZimmerman, but "still protected the memory" of #TrayvonMartin.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman wanted to tell jury "this is what I did & this is why I did it," but defense felt not necessary. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
O'Mara on #GeorgeZimmerman: "A big part of him wanted to get in front of the jury" & tell story.  #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Presser starting now. O'Mara: Argument "is fun part of the trial," says he's glad testimony is over. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 06:09:02 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/RHughesWFTV

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  1m 
Defense will not bring in marijuana evidence, @Markomaralaw says. #ZIMMERMANon9.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 06:09:07 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara on not using #TrayvonMartin THC testimony: "It didn't seem to be significant enough" to be "worthwhile making the focus on that."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 06:14:28 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@seemaiyeresq Not yet, argument tomorrow. State wants manslaughter & agg assault.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: Frustrated by "some of the phone evidence we got so late," says was still able to put on "pretty decent case." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 06:15:59 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets

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Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  31s 
"We'll be cautious" if there's an acquittal, Mark O'Mara says about safety. #ZIMMERMANon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 06:17:05 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42s
Press conference over. Court resumes 9 a.m., state's closing argument at 1 p.m. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@Justin_Edward81 The defense rested today. Arguments tomorrow & Friday. Verdict could be as soon as Friday.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara: "Last year's worth" of burglary records in #GeorgeZimmerman's neighborhood admitted as evidence."Context of why George was calling."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: Jury has been "listenting attentively," believes they'll follow instructions. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 06:38:37 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
Press conference over. Court resumes 9 a.m., state's closing argument at 1 p.m. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 christine ‏@TWEETLEYYOURS 9m
@JeffWeinerOS does defense go second in closing? Isn't that typical?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@TWEETLEYYOURS Yes, that's how it goes. State, defense, state rebuttal.
3:32 PM - 10 Jul 13 ·

 christine ‏@TWEETLEYYOURS 3m
@JeffWeinerOS state twice? Hardly seems fair


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 10, 2013, 06:41:30 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Just in: Special Prosecutor Angela Corey will answer media questions "immediately following" verdict #ZimmermanTrial. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Inoculated City ‏@Inoculated_City 1h
@JeffWeinerOS will this be live-streamed from the OS site?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@Inoculated_City Yup, same link as usual: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz

 Inoculated City ‏@Inoculated_City 8m
@JeffWeinerOS any idea what time Angela Corey will be answering questions? Thank you!

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@Inoculated_City After the verdict, can't predict when that will be.
3:35 PM - 10 Jul 13 ·


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 06:58:47 PM
July 10, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson denies motion, Donnelly's testimony won't be struck. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Judge Nelson doesn't believe Donnelly knew he wasn't allowed in court. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

George Zimmerman trial: Judge denies prosecution request to strike witness testimony
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57593167-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-judge-denies-prosecution-request-to-strike-witness-testimony/

Quote
A judge in the case of suspected murderer George Zimmerman has denied a prosecution request to strike testimony of a friend of Zimmerman who said he heard the former neighborhood watch captain screaming in the background of a 911 call.

"On one hand the court is very very, very, very, very concerned -- that's four 'very's' for those who want to know -- about the rule of sequestration and the witnesses and counsel abiding by them, the question becomes whether the witness themselves had knowledge. I do not believe Mr. Donnelly had the knowledge because it was relayed to the court he was not specifically told," Judge Debra Nelson said.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 10, 2013, 07:22:07 PM
Watch Press conference with Mark O’Mara that he held with reporters and took questions from reporters.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-zimmerman-defense-attorney-mark-omara-holds-press-conference/

O’Mara said the jury should be able to conclude that “George had no alternative and he did only what he believed reasonably that he had to do to protect himself from great bodily injury.” He hoped that whatever sympathies the jurors may feel either way can be brushed aside for a decision that’s just based on the facts of the case.

He admitted he’s “still frustrated” that his team wasn’t able to get out all the evidence they wanted, but the man with bigger worries right now is Zimmerman, whom O’Mara said is very fearful for his love should he be found not guilty.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: islandmonkey on July 10, 2013, 07:24:53 PM
OMG she isn't letting the phone in, REVERSIBLE error.  im sorry but this judge is so off the mark its ridiculous. 

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ITA- I see reversible error all over this case........very low threshold to bring in text messages and I wish I could say I was shocked, but with with Biatch totally not.....

This just isn't true.  It's been common knowledge in the legal community that these texts and images would likely not be permissible:

Article from May 2013
http://www.news4jax.com/news/george-zimmerman-attorneys-release-pictures-from-trayvon-martins-cellphone/-/475880/20273016/-/item/1/-/xglunr/-/index.html
 ::snipping3::
Many other lawyers say most of this material will never be shown inside the Seminole County Courtroom during the trial this summer.

The new president of the local chapter of Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers agrees with the prosecutor on this issue.

"There is no reason why this information has been released, other than to affect jurors," said attorney Gene Nichols. "The allegation, or what the Zimmerman defense team wants everyone to believe, is that Trayvon was a violent young man. They want you to believe that Trayvon was involved with drugs because maybe he made statements over his texts. These are texts that would most likely never see the light of day in court."
 ::snipping3::

It's also very unlikely that Trayvon Martin's parents believe losing their son was a favor to them.  You're a parent Island Monkey so I'm surprised you would believe that.

Well, facts are facts.......he was a thug ...sorry but I am not so naive as to believe he was the angel the MSM tried to portray him as, he was fighting so much his friends were telling him he needed to chill, swigging purple drank, vandalism, I believe he absolutely stole the jewelry found in his back pack, smoked a blunt on the way back from the conv store and was desperate to see more "bleed" , and trying hard to find a gun. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.......it's s damn duck!  And I didn't say favor or I don't think I did in my opinion, but lets be real, he certainly helped them move there way to the evil 1%'ers and are still suing. Again mom gave him up to baby daddy looking to lapdance Tracy and Alicia practically raised him, he went back to Sybrina who kicked him out and anyone would have a chip on their shoulder, and now their son who neither bothered to discipline now pays for their lifestyle and more coming, all politically driven by the racial agitators who stir shit because that's how they become the 1%'ers too, I have had it seeing parents with missing kids and dead thug teen or whatever makng money off of the pretense of justice and righteous indignation. If thie were black on black crime as in Chicago every damn day, or had he been white I guarantee this case could would have never been charged, GZ might have very well been too involved in trying to keep his community safe, but in a split second he became the sacrificial lamb to race baiters including our own corrupt DOJ and POTUS. My being a parent has nothing to do with it, I just call it as I see it and we all know what shit will go down if he walks and frankly I think the bat shit crazy judge who has perverted the constitution for the powers that be might shit her pants and throw another tantrum .


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 07:27:09 PM
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/zimmerman-defense-rests-closing-statements-start-tomorrow/

Zimmerman Defense Rests, Closing Statements Start Tomorrow
Posted by Andrew Branca    Wednesday, July 10, 2013 at 6:00pm


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 10, 2013, 07:31:16 PM
Video at the link

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/07/10/Dershowitz-Zimmerman-Prosecutors-Going-for-a-Compromise-Manslaughter-Verdict

Dershowitz: Zimmerman Prosecutors Going for a Compromise Manslaughter Verdict
by John Sexton  10 Jul 2013, 2:11 PM PDT

Speaking on the Steve Malzberg show, professor Alan Dershowitz argues that prosecutors had no business charging George Zimmerman with murder. They did so, he believes, in order to improve their chances at a "compromise verdict" of manslaughter.

As Dershowitz sees it, there is plenty of reasonable doubt to say that George Zimmerman is not guilty of murder and even enough to say he should not be convicted of manslaughter. However, jurors who feel sorry for the victim and his family may be induced to split the difference between murder and a not guilty verdict by finding Zimmerman guilty of manslaughter.

In reality a manslaughter conviction could result in Zimmerman spending nearly as much time behind bars as a murder conviction. From his perspective it is not a middle-ground.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: labubske on July 10, 2013, 09:16:59 PM
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Sonni AbattaSonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 5m
Defense:  This is ancient in time and act and was a "non-event to begin with."  Does not prove #Zimmerman is a fighter.  #Fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff WeinerJeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: If state brings in #GeorgeZimmerman's prior arrest as character evidence, defense could call 30 to counter it. #ZimmermanTrial

So Zimmerman's prior bad acts, which by all accounts was a trumped us bunch of BS can be considered, but TM's prior bad acts can't be? HA! Wow is all I have to say.

If this is what our judicial system has come down too. How sad.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Very sad...I expect GZ to get sentenced with something since the jury does not see what we are able to see...they likely see some sweet kid jut walking home and ambushed by GZ...some neighborhood watch guy with a gun...ya know...just wanting to shoot someone that night.  How ridiculous.  I just need to shut up.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 11:17:09 PM
Why was former police chief Bill Lee not called as a Defence witness? The entire article is a must read The implication is the George Zimmerman should never have been arrested. Was it all about PC Black appeasement?


Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe ‘taken away from us’
Wed July 10, 2013


The George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked “in a number of ways” by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.

Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial, told CNN’s George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.

“It was (relayed) to me that they just wanted an arrest. They didn’t care if it got dismissed later,” he said. “You don’t do that.”

When Sanford police arrived on the scene on February 26, 2012, after Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they conducted a “sound” investigation, and the evidence provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene, he said.

It had nothing to do with Florida’s controversial “Stand Your Ground” law, he said; from an investigative standpoint, it was purely a matter of self-defense.

Read more:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/justice/sanford-bill-lee-exclusive/index.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 10, 2013, 11:19:55 PM
DOJ ‘peacemakers’ helped Sanford stay cool amid rising tensions
10:52 p.m. EST, April 15, 2012


When racial tensions flared in Sanford, a league of secretive peacemakers reached out to the city’s spiritual and civic leaders to help cool heated emotions after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in February.

When civil-rights organizers wanted to demonstrate, these FEDERAL WORKERS taught them how to peacefully manage crowds.

They even arranged a police escort for college students to ensure safe passage for their 40-mile march from Daytona Beach to Sanford to demand justice.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-15/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-justice-departm-20120415_1_federal-workers-racial-tensions-peacekeepers
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Did Justice Department support anti-Zimmerman protests after Martin shooting?
Published July 10, 2013


A conservative watchdog group accused THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT of helping manage the “pressure campaign” last year against George Zimmerman in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting, citing documents that show an obscure agency spent thousands assisting local demonstrations

The little-known agency, the Community Relations Service, is described by the Justice Department as their “peacemaker” for community conflicts over race. ….

Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/10/did-justice-department-support-anti-zimmerman-protests-after-trayvon-shooting/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Mere on July 11, 2013, 12:19:57 AM
My idea of this case.....

Trayvon Martin, walking through the housing area with his purchases from the 7-11.
 
George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch guy, walking through the housing area checking to see if the young man also walking is a neighbor or not.
 
Trayvon thinks George is suspicious.  George thinks Trayvon is suspicious.  They meet.  Why did they fight???
 
The easiest way to end the suspicion....."I am Neighborhood Watch."  "I am staying with my Dad."
 
Who threw the first punch?  Why did he do that?
 
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 12:28:17 AM
The information in the article below might be helpful, as a reference, when the lawyers/judge discuss the jury instructions tomorrow...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/even-if-george-zimmerman-is-found-not-guilty-of-murder-and-manslaughter-he-could-still-serve-25-years/

Even If George Zimmerman Found Not Guilty Of Murder And Manslaughter, He Could Still Get 25 Years
by Richard Hornsby | 10:05 pm, July 9th, 2013

To many people, there is no middle ground: George Zimmerman will either be convicted of Second Degree Murder or he will be found Not Guilty.

But the reality is much more complex, because the jury will have a number of Lesser Included Offenses to choose from.

And because of these numerous options, it is not uncommon for a jury to exercise what is known as their “pardon” or “nullification” power and return a compromise verdict that they believe is just under the circumstances. See generally Haygood v. State, 109 So. 3d 735 (Fla. 2013).

Lesser Included Offenses

In Florida, there are two types of Lesser Included Offenses:
1.Category One Lesser Offenses (Mandatory Lessers); and
2.Category Two Lesser Offenses (Discretionary Lessers).

While mandatory lesser offenses must be given, discretionary lesser offenses are only required if the Information alleges the essential elements of the offenses and one of the parties requests the lesser offense. See Herrington v. State, 538 So. 2d 850 (Fla. 1989).

Based on the schedule of applicable lesser offenses found in the Standard Jury Instructions for Second Degree Murder and the language found with the formal charging document filed against George Zimmerman, the likely lesser offenses applicable to George Zimmerman are:
•Manslaughter;
•Third Degree Felony Murder;
•Aggravated Battery;
•Aggravated Assault;
•Felony Battery;
•Culpable Negligence (Argument can be made not applicable);
•Battery; and
•Assault.

However, this equation is complicated by Florida’s 10-20-Life law (Florida Statute 775.087).

10-20-Life

Florida’s 10-20-Life law imposes enhanced penalties for crimes that involve a firearm.

The law has two primary enhancements:
 ::snipping3::

 



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:05:59 AM
My idea of this case.....

Trayvon Martin, walking through the housing area with his purchases from the 7-11.
 
George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch guy, walking through the housing area checking to see if the young man also walking is a neighbor or not.  GZ was in his vehicle when he saw TM and called non-emergency number to report suspicious person.  Followed TM.  GZ got out of the vehicle when he saw TM start to run.
 
Trayvon thinks George is suspicious.  George thinks Trayvon is suspicious.  Possible.  They meet.  Why did they fight???
 
The easiest way to end the suspicion....."I am Neighborhood Watch."  "I am staying with my Dad."
 
Who threw the first punch?  Why did he do that?  Depends on whose theory/story you believe--prosecution or defense.
 
 

 ::HelloKitty::

My thoughts expressed in blue  above.

The prosecution and defense will attempt to explain what happened that night during the closing arguments Thursday and Friday--their theories/stories, testimony of the witnesses, and evidence--then the jury will deliberate and come to a verdict.

 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:19:02 AM
My idea of this case.....

Trayvon Martin, walking through the housing area with his purchases from the 7-11.
 
George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch guy, walking through the housing area checking to see if the young man also walking is a neighbor or not.
 
Trayvon thinks George is suspicious.  George thinks Trayvon is suspicious.  They meet.  Why did they fight???
 
The easiest way to end the suspicion....."I am Neighborhood Watch."  "I am staying with my Dad."
 
Who threw the first punch?  Why did he do that?
 
 

Or George could have rolled his window down (after all, George states Trayvon circled his rig), informed Trayvon he was with Neighborhood Watch, and asked if he had a reason for being in the neighborhood.  Except George had to get all mister tough guy and make it weird by following him because he just knew this kid had to be up to no good and he wasn't going to let him get away.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: jamcakes on July 11, 2013, 01:37:31 AM
http://www.qstarnews.com/a/articletemplate6.cfm?articlenumber=2715

Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM submit to reddit
New Black Panther Party allegedly busing mobs to Sanford, Florida for expected riots

By Dean Chambers

Reports have come in from eye witnesses in Sanford, Florida that the New Black Panther Party, an extremist group that has called for the killing of George Zimmerman if he is found not guilty, is busing in thousands to that town. Sanford is the location of the trial and near the place where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by Zimmerman occurred. There have been threats of riots if Zimmerman is not found guilty and it is believed that the New Black Panther Party and other extremist groups will attempt to take advantage of racial tensions after a non guilty verdict by organizing riots.

Local police should be prepared for riots and Governor Rick Scott should be prepared to call in the National Guard at a moment's notice if needed. Local authorities should be ready to act and not allow this to create a situation like the South Central Los Angeles riots of 1992 after the verdict in the trial of the police officers that had beaten Rodney King.

It must also be remembered that these events are not “spontaneous” as the left wing media likes to portray them. They are deliberately organized. The riots in Los Angeles in 1992 were organized by several extremist left wing community organizer type groups including the local chapter of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

It should surprise no one that leftist groups are prepared to ignite rioting after the upcoming verdict in the George Zimmerman trial. Peaceful demonstrations should be allowed, but any degree of violence should immediately be stopped by local authorities.


 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: tupelohoney on July 11, 2013, 07:20:44 AM
 ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll::
http://www.qstarnews.com/a/articletemplate6.cfm?articlenumber=2715

Posted July 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM submit to reddit
New Black Panther Party allegedly busing mobs to Sanford, Florida for expected riots

By Dean Chambers

Reports have come in from eye witnesses in Sanford, Florida that the New Black Panther Party, an extremist group that has called for the killing of George Zimmerman if he is found not guilty, is busing in thousands to that town. Sanford is the location of the trial and near the place where the shooting of Trayvon Martin by Zimmerman occurred. There have been threats of riots if Zimmerman is not found guilty and it is believed that the New Black Panther Party and other extremist groups will attempt to take advantage of racial tensions after a non guilty verdict by organizing riots.

Local police should be prepared for riots and Governor Rick Scott should be prepared to call in the National Guard at a moment's notice if needed. Local authorities should be ready to act and not allow this to create a situation like the South Central Los Angeles riots of 1992 after the verdict in the trial of the police officers that had beaten Rodney King.

It must also be remembered that these events are not “spontaneous” as the left wing media likes to portray them. They are deliberately organized. The riots in Los Angeles in 1992 were organized by several extremist left wing community organizer type groups including the local chapter of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

It should surprise no one that leftist groups are prepared to ignite rioting after the upcoming verdict in the George Zimmerman trial. Peaceful demonstrations should be allowed, but any degree of violence should immediately be stopped by local authorities.


 ::snipping3::
::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 08:17:04 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
#ZimmermanTrial: State's closing argument today | Story we'll update: http://bit.ly/1554c2z  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 08:20:41 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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(opened conversation)

Richard Clark ‏@clark83 10m
@JeffWeinerOS any word on if Judge will allow rebuttal witness who GZ allegedly assaulted?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@clark83 Defense's O'Mara said yesterday in press conference state no longer plans to call him.
5:17 AM - 11 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: flamom on July 11, 2013, 08:32:16 AM
It will be very surprising if GZ is not acquitted. After all, he has a great defense team and the prosecution working for him...Worst excuse for prosecutors ever...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: sunshine12 on July 11, 2013, 08:35:02 AM
It will be very surprising if GZ is not acquitted. After all, he has a great defense team and the prosecution working for him...Worst excuse for prosecutors ever...  ::MonkeyTongue::

and he has the law, constitution, and lack of evidence working for him too :) imo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 08:39:22 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 10h
George Zimmerman trial: Highlights of the defense case | http://thesent.nl/15gWuSE
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 08:40:32 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 2m
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: State's closing argument today http://thesent.nl/18Pqlap  #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 08:43:55 AM
If this jury does not acquit based on the state changing their theory every day they will be tied as the stupidest group of morons to ever sit on a jury in Florida.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 08:47:08 AM
And I hope they suffer from the white peoples version of a riot. I will help pay for the toilet paper.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cadillac on July 11, 2013, 08:48:52 AM
Just a comment, and you can take it whichever way you wish...

For every stereotype, a degree of that stereotype is true.

Certain groups can say they want justice, when really they want the resolution to be their way and will try to seek revenge if it doesn't happen like they want.

This is historically what happens, especially in race relations.

And this is definitely about race.

Prayers for both sides here.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 08:49:25 AM
What was the judges deal in insisting that GZ give her an answer about testifying? She does not like His defense team.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
Just a comment, and you can take it whichever way you wish...

For every stereotype, a degree of that stereotype is true.

Certain groups can say they want justice, when really they want the resolution to be their way and will try to seek revenge if it doesn't happen like they want.

This is historically what happens, especially in race relations.

And this is definitely about race.

Prayers for both sides here.


Agree.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 08:53:58 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
#ZimmermanTrial resumes 9 a.m. | Watch: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 08:56:53 AM
Can we have an official Scared Monkeys betting pool on how many times State says
Fn punk/Ahole?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 08:59:41 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
@TrishLaird Thanks, Trish! #Zimmermanon9
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 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
RT @WFTV: Verdict in #Zimmermantrial could be reached by week's end http://at.wftv.com/154atLI

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
@LinnieFL 9am for attorneys; jurors are in at 1pm for closing arguments. #Zimmermanon9
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 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
.@RosieDerryberry 9am for attorneys; jurors are in at 1pm for closing arguments. #Zimmermanon9
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: flamom on July 11, 2013, 09:01:25 AM
Love listening to Bill Shaeffer, His explanations are based on facts and his experience. Great analysis of the case.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:06:47 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Defense's @markomaralaw not in courtroom this morning. Prepping closing argument? #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:08:42 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Deneige Broom ‏@DBroomWFTV  1m 
Recess for 30 minutes while both sides prepare arguments about jury instructions #Zimmermanon9 #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:09:21 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@gaijin42 Mics aren't muted. Try refreshing.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Defense's Don West indicates co-counsel Mark O'Mara may not be in court this morning. Is elsewhere working on closing. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Court is in session. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Yes. Lesser-included-offense debate 1st, state's closing at 1 p.m. RT @skies2782: BEFORE closing arguments?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
#ZimmermanTrial should resume soon, with debate over lesser charges jury could consider. Watch: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:10:14 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@gaijin42 You didn't miss much.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nelson: Half-hour recess, attorneys will discuss remaining jury-instruction disputes. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:12:06 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Court is in recess for 30 minutes as attorneys and judges look over proposed jury instructions.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Mark O'Mara will not attend court this morning. Zimmerman attorney Don West will be in court on his own today.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
Court is back in session.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
One of the issues that will be discussed this morning is whether the jury will be given the option of lesser charges in their deliberations.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  12m 
Court is about to start. #GeorgeZimmerman and state prosecutors are in the courtroom.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: flamom on July 11, 2013, 09:12:15 AM
They should send the jury to deliberate based on the way they charged GZ. Even I must admit it is not fair to add any lesser included charges at the last minute..hail mary passes by the state's not right...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:16:04 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
FWIW: Here's standard jury instruction on second-degree murder. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin http://twitdoc.com/2693


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:16:49 AM
They should send the jury to deliberate based on the way they charged GZ. Even I must admit it is not fair to add any lesser included charges at the last minute..hail mary passes by the state's not right...

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:21:42 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Here's standard instructions on state's requested lesser offenses, manslaughter: http://bit.ly/12tnmvF  Agg. assault: http://bit.ly/12tnkUB


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 09:29:23 AM
I think the state will take anything and might even throw in Discharging a Firearm in City Limits.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
@KingHarris_ He was not. #Zimmermanon9
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
Ha! Can't believe @BillSheafferPA's suspenders have their own Twitter account! @BillSuspenders. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13m 
@phrydoom Tweeted before he did! #Zimmermanon9
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 Deneige Broom ‏@DBroomWFTV  17m 
.@BillSheafferPA says jurors won't know the possible sentences attached to charges before they deliberate #Zimmermanon9 #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Sister on July 11, 2013, 09:33:41 AM
Heard on the news, the judge walked out last night???
What a mess.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:37:16 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Another relevant standard jury instruction: Justifiable use of deadly force. #ZimmermanTrial http://twitdoc.com/2697

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@TrialHumor2 You're welcome, thanks for following!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:38:17 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Those standard jury instructions are via the Florida Supreme Court's website: http://bit.ly/12tpCDc


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: seahorse on July 11, 2013, 09:38:42 AM
Heard on the news, the judge walked out last night???
What a mess.

Hi Monkey's,

Sister, it was 10:00 pm (the other night) and she was exhausted, she was finished for the day (or night), she did not say goodnight. :)IMO. 

Remember the news wants you to believe different. 

Judgie has so much patience,IMO.   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:43:44 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
@danachaabanwftv @cyberbouncer asks: did judge break rule yesterday by overruling West's objection w/out hearing his basis for objection?

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
@LawatStPenn Thank you. #Zimmermanon9
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WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  25m 
This morn's discussions include possible lesser charges for #Zimmerman: manslaughter, aggravated assault and/or agg battery. #Zimmermanon9
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:45:33 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
30-minute recess has turned into 40 minutes... #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:49:13 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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@sherylkaye Thanks!
 
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Good info via @JeffWeinerOS : https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355320284003315712 … ; https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355319702983155713 … ; https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355315392329162752 … ; https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355314682212524033 …
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:55:47 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Court is back in session. #Zimmeranon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:56:51 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42m
FWIW: Here's standard jury instruction on second-degree murder. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin http://twitdoc.com/2693

 Medusausi ‏@Medusausi 7m
@JeffWeinerOS #zimmerman already admitted elements one and two. So FL has only to prove element 3 BARD, correct? #trayvonmartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@Medusausi The defense will argue against elements 2 ("criminal act") & 3.
6:54 AM - 11 Jul 13 · Details

 Medusausi ‏@Medusausi 2m
@JeffWeinerOS gotcha! Thanks.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:57:37 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8s 
Both #Zimmerman's and #TrayvonMartin's name will be in all caps for uniformity. #Zimmermanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
State attorney Mantei has issue with defense replacing "defendant" with #GeorgeZimmerman. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 09:58:11 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42s
Nelson OKs swapping out "defendant" for "George Zimmerman." Won't use all caps for names. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson: Not "objectionable" to use #GeorgeZimmerman's name in place of defendant. Wants consistency on caps/no caps. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: 1st instruction issue is West wants "defendant" replaced in all instances by #GeorgeZimmerman. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Court back in session. West says he's talked to #GeorgeZimmerman about proposed intructions "for the most part." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 09:59:14 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  55s 
Sorry, WON'T be in all caps. #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 11, 2013, 10:01:31 AM
It appears the the Prosecution is determined that GZ is not going to walk ... one way or another.  Somehow I believe the judiciary will comply.  The arrest of GZ has never been about justice for GZ.  It is all about a PC appeasement of the many within the Black community.  IMO 

Janet

++++++


The Closing arguments set to begin in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 201
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Prosecutors are expected to deliver closing arguments this afternoon in the trial of George Zimmerman, after the judge rules on several key issues – including whether the jury can find the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer guilty of manslaughter in the death last year of Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman’s lead attorney, Mark O’Mara, told reporters Wednesday after resting his case that the jury’s only option should be the second-degree murder charge brought by prosecutors. If jurors are unable to convict Zimmerman or murder, then he should be acquitted, O’Mara said, because the shooting on Feb. 26, 2012 was intentional.

“What George did was an intentional act that he knew he was pulling the trigger, the reason why he did it was self defense and that doesn’t suggest the manslaughter charge would be appropriate,” O’Mara said.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:02:50 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Defense doesn't want lesser charges--2nd deg murder or nothing. #Zimmermanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
State wants to included charges of manslaughter and 3rd degree murder instead of aggravated assault. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 37s
Mantei now arguing in favor of lessers. 1st: Manslaughter. #ZimmemanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
State & defense agree on wording of 2nd degree murder instruction & firearm enhancement instruction. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Here's the standard jury instruction for felony 3rd degree murder. #ZimmermanTrial http://twitdoc.com/269A

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
#GeorgeZimmerman confirms to Nelson he's OK with his attorneys arguing against lesser offenses. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Richard Hornsby ‏@RichardHornsby 4m
10-20-Life applies to Third Degree Felony Murder as well. 25 to Life if convicted of Third Degree Felony Murder. #GeorgeZimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
State has apparently changed requested lessers: Now manslaughter and felony 3rd degree murder. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:05:01 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 58s
Mantei reads caselaw manslaughter is "a lesser offense that is always included" in 2nd degree & court required to allow. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 11, 2013, 10:06:01 AM
Closing arguments set to begin in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 2013


Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda will give closing arguments Thursday at 1 p.m. ET, and O’Mara will give closing arguments for the defense on Friday morning. Judge Debra Nelson said the case could be sent to the all-female jury as early as Friday

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:06:13 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
West: State charged 2nd-degree, "they should be required to prove it if they can." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: It "would be error not to give" manslaughter. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge rules manslaughter will be an option for the jury. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:08:08 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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FL Courts 18 ‏@PIOFLCourts18 1m
Response to FAQ:
Jury Instructions will be on http://ww.flcourts18.org  as soon as they are completed.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:08:55 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6s
Mantei now arguing to include felony 3rd degree murder. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:09:20 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Court will give jury instructions on the lesser charge of manslaughter. #Zimmermanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The judge has ruled that manslaughter will be an option for the jury in addition to second degree murder. #Zimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:12:23 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The judge will include third degree murder as an option for the jury but not aggravated assault with a firearm. #Zimmermanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The only charge on the table and they have to be able to prove it or #Zimmermanon9 should go free. 2/2

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense argued unsuccessfully that the state charged #Zimmermanon9 with second degree murder so that should be 1/2

 FL Courts 18 ‏@PIOFLCourts18  4m 
Response to FAQ:
Jury Instructions will be on http://ww.flcourts18.org  as soon as they are completed.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state also wants felony murder based in part on child abuse. Martin had just turned 17 before #Zimmermanon9 shot and killed him



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
Mantei: Basis for murder3 is that #Zimmerman committed the underlying felony of child abuse.
#TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Felony 3rd degree murder requires that #GeorgeZImmerman was committing a felony when he killed #TrayvonMartin. Mantei: Child abuse.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei says #GeorgeZImmerman was committing child abuse when he killed #TrayvonMartin. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:16:09 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Here's Florida's statute defining child abuse: http://bit.ly/1brslVN  #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:17:35 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Relevant portion of that statute: “Child abuse” means: 1. Intentional infliction of physical or mental (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rl9vkg


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Possible sentences: 2nd-degree or 3rd-degree, w/10-20-Life finding, would be min 25, max life. Manslaughter: Up to 30 years. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:22:34 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Richard Hornsby ‏@RichardHornsby 1m
Child Abuse does not require the defendant to know the child's age. #GeorgeZimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Person under age of 18. RT @ElisaSDavis: Do we know how a child is defined by Florida?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:24:33 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  49s 
In death even if unintentional and even if #Zimmermanon9 didn't realize Martin was under 18 should be a related lesser charge.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@captaindismal Likely de la Rionda. He's not in court today. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  51s 
The state is arguing for third degree felony murder.. arguing irrational or hostile behavior toward a child resulting 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The former police chief said his oath as a police officer prevented him from doing that. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The former Sanford chief said he was told by city leaders to arrest #Zimmermanon9 and they didn't care if case was dismissed later.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Former Sanford police chief Bill Lee, who lost his job over the #Zimmermanon9 case says he was thrown under the bus. #


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:27:06 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@denimh20 It humanizes him to the jury. @SunnyHostin @MDumercy #Zimmermanon9
View conversation   

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state seemed to concede yesterday that even if Martin was on top, once #Zimmermanon9 grabbed for his gun he became the aggressor.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:27:07 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: 2nd degree murder requires "depraved mind," felony murder doesn't. West now to argue for defense. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: State belives "that the law and the facts... would permit the instruction on 3rd degree felony murder..." #ZimmermanTrial

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 3m
#Trayvon's parents are not here in the c-room this morning. Neither are #Zimmerman's parents, who are free to attend now, or sister.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@Apuje She ruled against state, testimony will not be struck.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:28:15 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West says state sprung child abuse allegation, change in requested lessers on defense. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: "Just when I though this case couldn't get any more bizarre," state alleges child abuse. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:29:21 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: "It's outrageous. It's outrageous that the state would try to do this." Says can't believe court would consider. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: State "has been lying in wait... just so at this moment" just before closings, "we would have to deal with it." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:30:15 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Not fair to me, #GeorgeZimmerman, O'Mara or court "for this to happen like this right now." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
There is a lot of talking to do.. He said it's outrageous and disingenuous. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense says the case has gotten even more bizarre.. and said if the judge is giving it serious consideration 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
@taggat4 The jury is not present. They come in at 1pm. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: flamom on July 11, 2013, 10:30:31 AM
This keeps getting more bizarre....  child abuse?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:32:27 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Pummeling #Zimmermanon9.  2/2

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The defense says it needs more time to prepare.. And says it's absurd that #Zimmermanon9 was abusing a child when Martin was 1/2


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:34:42 AM
This keeps getting more bizarre....  child abuse?  ::MonkeyEek::

A "trick" by the state according to defense.  Odd--at this time in the trial. imo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:34:52 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36s
@Ithacaron Under 18 = child.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson says law permits state's child abuse argument, West calls it a "trick." Judge: We'll revisit this later. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:36:15 AM
Shouldn't GZ have an opportunity to be prepared to defend these charges? 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:37:05 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Attorneys now debating proposed instruction for justifiable use of deadly force. State & defense versions differ. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:37:12 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The last minute. He said it's typical if the way the state has operated. Prosecutor Rich Mantei did not deny it. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense said "doesn't the court realize this was a trick?" (by the state to spring the child abuse murder issue at 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:38:52 AM
Shouldn't GZ have an opportunity to be prepared to defend these charges? 

I would think so.  How can one defend oneself of a charge if you don't know about it?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:38:56 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
#ZimmermanTrial MT @orlandosentinel: Judge: Jury can consider manslaughter in #GeorgeZimmerman trial http://thesent.nl/18Pqlap .


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:40:19 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Defense doesn't want instruction that requires specific allegation of #TrayvonMartin committing felony against #GeorgeZimmerman.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:41:48 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: That's a requirement of justifiable use of force instruction. West again alleges "trick." Nelson: Stop saying that. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:42:08 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: That's a requirement of justifiable use of force instruction. West again alleges "trick." Nelson: Stop saying that. #ZimmermanTrial

It is what it is.  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:43:01 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: "The court is looking at the wrong portion of the instruction, as is Mr. Mantei." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 10:43:02 AM
If the judge allows this, whatever the verdict is will get reversed on appeal. This is what happens in 3rd world countries, not the USA


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:44:13 AM
If the judge allows this, whatever the verdict is will get reversed on appeal. This is what happens in 3rd world countries, not the USA


Yep.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 10:44:34 AM
Shouldn't GZ have an opportunity to be prepared to defend these charges? 

I would think so.  How can one defend oneself of a charge if you don't know about it?


Talk about some one's Constitutional rights being violated!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:45:01 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West says this should be instruction on justifiable use of deadly force: "A person is justified in using (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rla05b


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 10:48:00 AM
Let's face it. Every thing about this case is wrong. It is unfortunate that TM died and no one is arguing that, but this has gotten out of control just to prevent riots at the cost of a defendants right to a fair trial.

It was forced to have been brought against Zimmerman.

The judge has not acted in a fair and impartial manner.

And now the Court is allowing a Prosecutorial screw job to a defendant with this last second ambush.

Child abuse? Really? After not allowing all the evidence in on TM texts, she is going to allow this? What a travesty of justice to make sure GZ gets tried for something and the Al Sharpton's and Jesse Jackson's can have their pound of flesh.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:48:08 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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(opened tweet conversation)

MikeyT ‏@Bogoroh 1m
@JeffWeinerOS hi, why isnt Mark O'mara present?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@Bogoroh He's working on defense's closing.
7:48 AM - 11 Jul 13 · Details

 MikeyT ‏@Bogoroh 14s
@JeffWeinerOS thank you! Great reports!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:49:26 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
#ZimmermanTrial MT @garywgreen: West motions towards Angela Corey in response to last minute child abuse charges. pic.twitter.com/Kar9WmZZjF (http://pic.twitter.com/Kar9WmZZjF)



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: theboyzmom on July 11, 2013, 10:50:09 AM
If the judge allows this, whatever the verdict is will get reversed on appeal. This is what happens in 3rd world countries, not the USA

I agree Red. What this judge has done is guarantee that the case will continue to be a race issue for years ahead. Sad that GZ is being wronged like this. Where is the ACLU and Panthers during this violation of rights?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:50:22 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  31s 
The instructions are the jury's guidebook in reaching a verdict. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The lawyers are arguing over the language in jury instructions which is tedious but important. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
@veryfrank10 Scroll through: http://at.wftv.com/1344DqH  #Zimmermanon9
View conversation   

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense accused the state of pulling tricks again and the judge asked Don Wesr not to use the word "trick" any more. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:50:26 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: #GeorgeZImmerman's admission of following #TrayvonMartin, testimony on pursuit is evidence of "provocation." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
West now disputing language about #GeorgeZimmerman "provoking" use of force against him. Says state must establish basis. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:52:26 AM
As I mentioned yesterday, I'm reading Andrew Branca's tweets, but haven't been posting them.  https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense (https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 10:53:04 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state just said the facts show an equal possibility that either #Zimmermanon9 or Martin was the aggressor


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:53:32 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: "What Mr. Mantei just said isn't the law," adds "not even close to the law." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:55:11 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 49s
West: #TrayvonMartin "had two or three minutes to get home... and chose not to." Says disputes #GeorgeZimmerman pursuing. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: One witness state cites made gross assumptions, another testified to new info on the stand. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:56:13 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
@LondonEnchants Thanks!

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: "There was no pursuit," #GeorgeZimmerman agreed when dispatcher said following #TrayvonMartin not needed. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 11, 2013, 10:56:20 AM
It appears the the Prosecution is determined that GZ is not going to walk ... one way or another.  Somehow I believe the judiciary will comply.  The arrest of GZ has never been about justice for GZ.  It is all about a PC appeasement of the many within the Black community.  IMO 

Janet

++++++


The Closing arguments set to begin in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 201
3

Prosecutors are expected to deliver closing arguments this afternoon in the trial of George Zimmerman, after the judge rules on several key issues – including whether the jury can find the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer guilty of manslaughter in the death last year of Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman’s lead attorney, Mark O’Mara, told reporters Wednesday after resting his case that the jury’s only option should be the second-degree murder charge brought by prosecutors. If jurors are unable to convict Zimmerman or murder, then he should be acquitted, O’Mara said, because the shooting on Feb. 26, 2012 was intentional.

“What George did was an intentional act that he knew he was pulling the trigger, the reason why he did it was self defense and that doesn’t suggest the manslaughter charge would be appropriate,” O’Mara said.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/


 ::MonkeyMad::


It appears that the Prosecution get to throw EVERYTHING on the table at the END OF THE TRIAL to assure a conviction of something!!!

Janet

++++

Jury can consider manslaughter charge in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 2013


George Zimmerman can still be convicted of manslaughter if the jury can't agree on a second-degree murder verdict, the judge in the Florida neighborhood watch volunteer's trial ruled Thursday. ....

Defense lawyers, who say Zimmerman acted in self-defense, argued against including manslaughter instructions to the jury. When prosecutors sought other lesser charges -- including felony murder based on a charge of child abuse -- Zimmerman attorney Don West lashed out in court.

"Just when I thought this case couldn't get any more bizarre, the state is seeking third degree murder charges based on child abuse?" he said after the prosecution's request. "It's outrageous that the state would seek to do this at this point."

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 10:56:46 AM
What next for charges? Jaywalking?
They can not prove their case so they will put any charges on and hope that something will stick. Which something will stick now because the jury has so many options! Not fair to change and b allowed by the court. The judge lives in the  Sanford area. She is covering her own butt for re election and also  trying to stop the riots that can happen. I am outraged by this and I really hope that George walks now. But he won't and he is not getting a fair trial. Jmo!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 10:58:35 AM
40% black population in Sanford.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 10:59:09 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
Mantei: "There is evidence that the defendant is a provoker." Determining witness credibility is jury's job, not West's. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Here's the instruction West wants blocked: However, the use of deadly force is not justifiable if you (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rla0cs


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 11:00:11 AM
If the judge allows this, whatever the verdict is will get reversed on appeal. This is what happens in 3rd world countries, not the USA

I agree Red. What this judge has done is guarantee that the case will continue to be a race issue for years ahead. Sad that GZ is being wronged like this. Where is the ACLU and Panthers during this violation of rights?


Totally agree with all said above! I am so pissed right now. Not for GZ necessarily but come on!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: "As a matter of law, following someone... is not against the law," especially if reporting info to police. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei: "There is evidence that the defendant is a provoker." Determining witness credibility is jury's job, not West's. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Here's the instruction West wants blocked: However, the use of deadly force is not justifiable if you (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rla0cs


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:02:03 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense says there is no evidence #Zimmermanon9 provoked the deadly confrontation.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense says Martin's friend said Martin first spoke to #Zimmermanon9 and walking behind someone is not provoking.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The defense says Martin had almost 4 minutes to go 348 feet to get away from #Zimmermanon9 but chose not to.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:04:23 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Judge Nelson rules for defense: Jury will not be read instruction on #GeorgeZimmerman "provoking" #TrayvonMartin. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: Legal to report someone suspicious. "Whatever you think is suspicious is good enough." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:06:28 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
In a similar case in Pinellas County last year, the state did not charge finding following is not illegal or improper. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:08:07 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s
West: We want this jury told "it's not illegal to follow somebody," especially if reporting info to police. State objects. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West want judge to tell jury following someone isn't illegal, would be "misleading" if she doesn't. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:08:55 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Telling jury what's not illegal is confusing. "It is not illegal to be armed with a pack of Skittles." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:09:29 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
@Angie_Lytical #TrayvonMartin's parents are not in court for this. They'll likely be here for closing arguments. #Zimmermanon9
View conversation
   


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:10:27 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:11:41 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson tells West not to continue arguing after she's ruled on an issue. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:11:52 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  49s 
She said if she makes a mistake the defense can appeal but told the defense not to argue after she rules. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The defense wants the judge to tell the jury following is not illegal. The judge says she won't. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 11:13:05 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:14:44 AM
Posting these to fill in some spaces...

July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense (https://twitter.com/lawselfdefense)

Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 1m
#zimmermantrial West: "To allow State to suggest following is unlawful would be a travesty." Nelson: "Motion in limine denied."

 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 2m
#zimmermantrial  West: "Move in limine that State cannot suggest to jury that following is somehow unlawful." http://www.lawofselfdefense.com

 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 3m
#zimmermantrial  Nelson says she will not charge on defense's request that folllowing is not illegal. http://www.lawofselfdefense.com

 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 5m
@BostonTeaser West: "Ask State to show a statute that shows following is illegal."
 View conversation

 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 7m
#zimmermantrial  West: "Jury MUST be informed that merely following somebody is not illegal.  Absence confuses where need not be confusion."

 Andrew Branca, LOSD ‏@LawSelfDefense 7m
#zimmermantrial  West: "If jury allowed to think for a second that following is illegal, they will misconstrue." http://www.lawofselfdefense.com


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:15:47 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 2m
Civil rights organization calls for peace regardless of verdict in #GeorgeZimmerman trial http://thesent.nl/12oTCF3  #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
West motioned for Nelson to block state from arguing in closing it was illegal for #GeorgeZimmerman to follow #TrayvonMartin. Denied.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:17:19 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV


Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The felony third degree murder/child abuse issue is on hold for now as defense researches the state's last minute add. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
STORY: Judge: Jury can consider manslaughter in #Zimmermantrial: http://at.wftv.com/154atLI  #Zimmermanon9 via @WFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The judge said the defense can tell the jury following is not illegal during closing. #Zimmermanon9
 
 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense wants the judge to prohibit the state from arguing following is not illegal. The judge will not do it. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27s
West: While not typical, "it's clear that the law allows it." Acknowledges not using it probably isn't reversible error. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Attorneys are now debating defense request for instruction on circumstantial evidence.  #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

rolandsmartin ‏@rolandsmartin 1m
From @orlandosentinel, George #Zimmerman Trial: Jury Can Consider Manslaughter Conviction, Judge Rules... http://fb.me/1nYvPHZpT
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:20:27 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda is not in court and neither is the Martin family. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Green Eyes on July 11, 2013, 11:22:42 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:23:50 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: Circumstantial evidence instruction hasn't been standard in decades, state's case not entirely circumstantial. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: State's case is circumstantial, instruction gives jury guidance "they desperately need." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:25:24 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Jury won't hear instruction on circumstantial evidence, Nelson rules. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:29:43 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense wants a special instruction about circumstantial evidence but the judge said no. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
Bomb threat at CIVIL courthouse in #Sanford across from City Hall. Not #Zimmermanon9 courthouse. Evacuations happening. @KRayWFTV otw.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:32:28 AM
July 13, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  4m 
Bomb, gun threat at #Sanford civil courthouse http://at.wftv.com/11FKLAg  pic.twitter.com/kOuWiDBrpZ
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:32:36 AM
July 11, 2012 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson indicates she'll allow 3rd-degree felony murder charge if she finds facts of case fit the law. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei: Shooting someone is an intentional act. Nelson: That's issue I'm focused on, will give West time to research. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Back to the 3rd deg. felony murder debate. Nelson: "Child abuse requires intentional act." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:38:38 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Sanford PD chief told @KRayWFTV that bomb threat could be an effort to draw cops away from #Zimmermanon9, among other possibilities.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Attorneys debating whether to give jurors definition of great bodily harm. State wants, defense doesn't. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 11:40:12 AM
George Zimmerman's Lawyers Want To Charge Him With Child Abuse, And His Lawyer Is Freaking Out

http://au.businessinsider.com/george-zimmerman-lesser-charges-2013-7

Quote
George Zimmerman’s prosecutors want to add lesser charges for the death of Florida teen Trayvon Martin, including manslaughter and third-degree murder, possibly because they’re worried he’ll be acquitted.

Richard Mantei, one prosecutor explained, “When one commits … child abuse, and the child dies — the child being defined as a person under the age of 18 — that can constitute felony murder in the third degree.”

Lead attorney for the defence  Don West called the prosecution’s move “outrageous” multiple times. “Just when I thought this case couldn’t get anymore bizarre,” he began his rebuttal. He doesn’t believe the court should even take the charge seriously.

Judge Debra Nelson shelved the discussion until later. The court will spend the rest of the morning solidifying the jury’s instruction, and closing arguments begin at 1:00 p.m.
::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:40:28 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: "Everybody knows what great bodily harm means," says GBH isn't needed for self-defense, only reasonable fear of it. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
#ZimmermanTrial: Jury can consider manslaughter | Updated story: http://bit.ly/1554c2z  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:41:32 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense says #Zimmermanon9 's injuries are irrelevant. Martin would not have had to lay a hand on him to argue seld defense.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The state wants the judge to define  "great bodily harm". The defense says the Supreme Court doesn't do it in self defense. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:41:47 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: "Just because he ( #GeorgeZimmerman) didn't die, just because his skull wasn't fractured," doesn't mean no fear. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:42:55 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28s
Nelson: Testimony is "you don't have to have any injury" to be in reasonable fear. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:45:08 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The judge is not going to give the jury a special definition of "great bodily harm" . #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The defense says that #Zimmermanon9 didn't die and didn't have his skull cracked isn't relevant.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson denies state's request to define "great bodily harm" for jury. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:51:08 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Now on to verdict form. West: "The verdict form is confusing." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 11:51:22 AM
I have been gone all morning to clear up my chores before closing. After catching up I know thats a good thing because I would have posted words that would have me banned.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:54:19 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Defense attorney Mark O'Mara is not in court. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:55:01 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Court to recess until 1 p.m., then more argument on 3rd-degree murder lesser. Then state's closing. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nelson confirms 10-20-Life applies to 3rd-degree murder. West doesn't seem to agree. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
West wants "not guilty" option on the first page. Nelson says defense lawyers always do. #ZimmermanTrial


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Nelson agrees the form is confusing, prefers guilty/not-guilty determination on one sheet, separate one for firearm finding. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 11:56:40 AM
Where is O'Mara today?
West is doing a good job. Judge does to like I'm a all.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 11:56:43 AM
I have been gone all morning to clear up my chores before closing. After catching up I know thats a good thing because I would have posted words that would have me banned.


Don't go getting yourself banned alagary.    Keep in mind "appeal".    JMHO  ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 11:58:48 AM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  2m 
Court is in recess til 1pm when it will wrap up jury instructions. #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 11:59:25 AM
Where is O'Mara today?
West is doing a good job. Judge does to like I'm a all.

He is working on the closing arguments. Also probably has their paralegals working diligently on this last second sand bag attempt by the State with Child abuse charges.

BTW, did the prosecution charge GZ with littering and property damage of getting his blood on the grass and concrete?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 12:00:20 PM
Where is O'Mara today?
West is doing a good job. Judge does to like I'm a all.

IIRC, preparing for the closing arguments.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Where is O'Mara today?
West is doing a good job. Judge does to like I'm a all.

He is working on the closing arguments. Also probably has their paralegals working diligently on this last second sand bag attempt by the State with Child abuse charges.

BTW, did the prosecution charge GZ with littering and property damage of getting his blood on the grass and concrete?  ::MonkeyEek::


That will b next!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 12:05:26 PM
I have been gone all morning to clear up my chores before closing. After catching up I know thats a good thing because I would have posted words that would have me banned.


Don't go getting yourself banned alagary.    Keep in mind "appeal".    JMHO  ::bee::

This is way passed appeal or sanctions. What they are doing has to be criminal.
The whole thing has turned into a legal lynching.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 12:07:44 PM
I have been gone all morning to clear up my chores before closing. After catching up I know thats a good thing because I would have posted words that would have me banned.


Don't go getting yourself banned alagary.    Keep in mind "appeal".    JMHO  ::bee::

This is way passed appeal or sanctions. What they are doing has to be criminal.
The whole thing has turned into a legal lynching.

Agree Alagary


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Sister on July 11, 2013, 12:10:03 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

It amazes me that judges nowadays seem not to care whether what they do or say is prejudicial to the case or not.  It is obvious where her feelings are . . .
 ::MonkeyMad::
I truly have tried to keep an open mind about this case and just read and listen.  Like the jury perhaps.  But I can tell you, if I was on the jury and all of a sudden lesser charges were being presented as an option, I would think the prosecution is just trying to "win" their case.  It would not set well with me.  JMO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Green Eyes on July 11, 2013, 12:10:09 PM
I have been gone all morning to clear up my chores before closing. After catching up I know thats a good thing because I would have posted words that would have me banned.


Don't go getting yourself banned alagary.    Keep in mind "appeal".    JMHO  ::bee::

This is way passed appeal or sanctions. What they are doing has to be criminal.
The whole thing has turned into a legal lynching.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: cookie on July 11, 2013, 12:11:42 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

It amazes me that judges nowadays seem not to care whether what they do or say is prejudicial to the case or not.  It is obvious where her feelings are . . .
 ::MonkeyMad::
I truly have tried to keep an open mind about this case and just read and listen.  Like the jury perhaps.  But I can tell you, if I was on the jury and all of a sudden lesser charges were being presented as an option, I would think the prosecution is just trying to "win" their case.  It would not set well with me.  JMO


I agree!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: jamcakes on July 11, 2013, 12:24:40 PM
I've kept my mouth shut all morning too, b/c I've been dumbfounded.

How can an attorney plan his clients defense if he doesn't know the charges until after the trial?  Just doesn't make sense and would seem to not be a "fair" trial to allow the State to change the charges b/c the State failed to make their case.

TM's family wanted this to be a landmark civil rights trial of the 1st century. It's turning into one for a travesty of GZ's civil rights.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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seema iyer, esq. ‏@seemaiyeresq 26m
@JeffWeinerOS @OSTrayvonMartin - any decision on Agg Assault yet? THX

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
@seemaiyeresq State dropped agg assault, replaced it with 3rd degree felony murder. No decision on that yet. Manslaughter is in.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 12:35:11 PM
@mhilgtx: #hoodies #corrupit Judge Nelson "Do you have anything to say before I pass sentence on your client?" Don West "Can we have a trial first?"
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 12:35:55 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
Yes. Story we'll update: http://bit.ly/13QFt56  MT @ts14ts: @JeffWeinerOS Can you confirm bomb threat at Sanford Civil Courthouse?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Sister on July 11, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
I've kept my mouth shut all morning too, b/c I've been dumbfounded.

How can an attorney plan his clients defense if he doesn't know the charges until after the trial?  Just doesn't make sense and would seem to not be a "fair" trial to allow the State to change the charges b/c the State failed to make their case.

TM's family wanted this to be a landmark civil rights trial of the 1st century. It's turning into one for a travesty of GZ's civil rights.

exactly and you raise some good points.
I'm serious, if I was on the jury I would be saying WTH is going on . . .


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 12:38:51 PM
The article goes on to say deputies deemed the building safe for employees and visitors to return around lunchtime.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-seminole-county-civil-courthouse-bomb-20130711,0,1049319.story?sade
Bomb threat made at Seminole's civil courthouse
July 11, 2013

Seminole County's civil courthouse was evacuated while deputies investigated a bomb threat at the Sanford building, the Sheriff's Office said.

The agency's explosives team was on scene late Thursday morning at the courthouse on North Park Avenue.

Criminal trials are not conducted at the North Park Avenue location.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 12:40:59 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson tells West not to continue arguing after she's ruled on an issue. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

It's about time.  He has been extremely disrespectful of the court.  Even O'mara has had to keep him in check a few times.

I agree that alleging child abuse at this point is wrong and am glad Nelson disallowed it.  Should have been a charge from the get go as Zimmerman admitted to knowing Trayvon was a child which makes his actions that night even worse, but it would be unfair to the defendant to include it just prior to closing.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 12:41:04 PM
All anyone has to do is listen to former Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee's interview with CNN to understand the hatchet job that was done to GZ and the US Constitution:

Justice? Ex-Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee Says He Was Pressured By City Officials To Arrest George Zimmerman in Death of Trayvon Martin Even Though He Already Cleared Him Of Any Wrongdoing (VIDEO)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/11/justice-ex-sanford-police-chief-bill-lee-says-he-was-pressured-by-city-officials-to-arrest-george-zimmerman-in-death-of-trayvon-martin-even-though-he-already-cleared-him-of-any-wrongdoing/

Quote
So much for the US Constitution, its now about mob rule. So this is how we arrest individuals and administer justice now for a crime in a Banana Republic United States?

Former Sanford, Florida Police Chief Bill Lee told CNN in an interview that he was fired for not arresting George Zimmerman. According to Bill Lee, he was pressured by city officials who cared more about appeasing the public, rather than if George Zimmerman was guilty.  The city officials just wanted an arrest and did not care whether the US Constitution was followed or not.  Lee told the officials you can’t arrest without probable cause, and was fired for upholding Zimmerman’s constitutional rights
::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
Was Zimmerman legally parked?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 12:50:52 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 ::rhino::

I just watched the video of the exchange.  Nelson was not forcing Zimmerman to make up his mind about testifying, she was merely asking if he knew yet whether or not he would and she made it clear he could give her an answer later after the defense ended.  I believe she was trying to keep a tight timeline and prepare for George possibly taking the stand.  At this point she was done with West and his disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqO1M1J3sE


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 12:52:38 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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(opened conversation)


Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59m
Court to recess until 1 p.m., then more argument on 3rd-degree murder lesser. Then state's closing. #ZimmermanTrial

 Kathryn Maher ‏@CmaherMaher 2m
@JeffWeinerOS Nice job with tweeting arguments. Still following:)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@CmaherMaher Thanks!!
9:52 AM - 11 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 01:00:16 PM
This case has made my mind up. If I ever have to kill someone in self defense I am going to dump the body in the swamp.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:02:59 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
#GeorgeZimmerman returns to court, #ZimmermanTrial resumes soon. Watch: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:04:22 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28s
Nelson: Testimony is "you don't have to have any injury" to be in reasonable fear. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

That's incredibly insane to our society.  Anyone anywhere could claim they are in fear and murder someone.  Add in someone who is prone to being in fear and can't keep their head straight and we could see people getting shot all over the damn place then claiming self defense.

This whole thing is so stupid.  You're a grown man and you don't know better than to follow a person you know is a kid on a dark rainy night?  You can't see he's freaked out by you following him?  You don't even bother introducing yourself as neighborhood watch (and there was ample opportunity to do that according to Zimmerman's story)?  Then you're surprised he punches you in the nose???

I have a teenage son and if he were being followed by some man at night I can say it is VERY likely he would punch the dude in the nose and IMO it would be self defense. 

Oy vey... this whole thing is Zimmerman's fault. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:05:16 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman's parents in courtroom. His wife & uncle are also there. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/nH2ADIJj2R (http://pic.twitter.com/nH2ADIJj2R)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355370717916844032/photo/1
(http://i.imgur.com/4ZiMAda.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 01:06:30 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 ::rhino::

I just watched the video of the exchange.  Nelson was not forcing Zimmerman to make up his mind about testifying, she was merely asking if he knew yet whether or not he would and she made it clear he could give her an answer later after the defense ended.  I believe she was trying to keep a tight timeline and prepare for George possibly taking the stand.  At this point she was done with West and his disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqO1M1J3sE

The fat,ugly ass cow overuled West before she even knew what the objection was about. How's that for disrespect?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:07:03 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nelson: Evidence doesn't support 3rd degree felony murder charge. Jury won't have that option. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Court back in session, Mantei continues arguing for 3rd degree felony murder to go to jury as lesser offense. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Video: Don West reacts to state pursuing 3rd-deg. felony murder via child abuse http://bit.ly/1brVWOE  #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:07:42 PM
Zimmerman Attorney Don West Loses his Mind at the Prosecution For Introducing Third Degree Felony Murder Child Abuse Charge … Tells Court, ‘This Was A Trick’ (UPDATE: Judge Disallows Third Degree Murder Child Abuse Charges)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/11/zimmerman-attorney-don-west-loses-his-mind-at-the-prosecution-for-introducing-child-abuse-charge-tells-court-this-was-a-trick/

UPDATE I: Judge Debra Nelson disallows the State’s attempt to charge George Zimmerman with the ridiculous charge of Third Degree Felony Murder Child Abuse.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:08:14 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Lawyers are now working to finalize jury instructions before state's closing argument. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Breaking: #ZimmermanTrial jurors will not be allowed to consider third-degree felony murder, judge rules. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:10:52 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57s
Jury's #ZimmermanTrial choices: 2nd-degree murder, manslaughter or not guilty. State's closing in 30 mins. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:12:16 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda and the Martins are still not in court. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The judge says #Zimmermanon9 was not charged with child abuse/felony murder so it's not a possible charge in the case.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The defense didn't have to argue against it. The judge says it is not an option for the jury. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
The state is still trying to convince the judge to allow the possibility of third degree felony murder/child abuse. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
How was YOUR lunch? MT @DBroomWFTV: .@mattgutmanABC interviewing @KBelichWFTV on how #Zimmermanon9 impacted Sanford pic.twitter.com/bbbSWsDCoR
View photo     

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
The state kept them out as witnesses but never called them as the defense predicted. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
The state is about to make the first part of it's closing argument. #Zimmermanon9 's parents, wife and other relatives are here.

Karla Ray ‏@KRayWFTV  43m 
Training paid off at #Seminole Civic Courthouse- SCSO was ready and had the situation under control in less than an hour. #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:13:39 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson tells West not to continue arguing after she's ruled on an issue. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

It's about time.  He has been extremely disrespectful of the court.  Even O'mara has had to keep him in check a few times.

I agree that alleging child abuse at this point is wrong and am glad Nelson disallowed it.  Should have been a charge from the get go as Zimmerman admitted to knowing Trayvon was a child which makes his actions that night even worse, but it would be unfair to the defendant to include it just prior to closing.

I see the judge hasn't ruled on this issue yet. 

If she allows it she is going to have to delay closings until next week to give the defense more time to prepare.

That said, I do not believe she will allow it. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:14:56 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 54s
No. No minimum-mandatory, maximum 30 years. RT @enc0ur: Is manslaughter minimum 25 years in Florida if a gun is involved?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
#ZimmermanTrial: Jury can consider manslaughter, not 3rd-deg felony murder | Updated: http://bit.ly/1554c2z  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
Zimmerman Attorney Don West Loses his Mind at the Prosecution For Introducing Third Degree Felony Murder Child Abuse Charge … Tells Court, ‘This Was A Trick’ (UPDATE: Judge Disallows Third Degree Murder Child Abuse Charges)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/11/zimmerman-attorney-don-west-loses-his-mind-at-the-prosecution-for-introducing-child-abuse-charge-tells-court-this-was-a-trick/

UPDATE I: Judge Debra Nelson disallows the State’s attempt to charge George Zimmerman with the ridiculous charge of Third Degree Felony Murder Child Abuse.
 ::snipping3::

Sorry, I'm multi-multitasking... she didn't allow it after all.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:15:36 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
MT @WFTV: JUST IN: #GeorgeZimmerman's final charges before jury: 2nd degree murder and the lesser charge of manslaughter. #Zimmermanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
In recess til about 130. #Zimmermanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
In recess til about 130


 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The Martin family has just come in with their lawyers. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:16:23 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Nelson tells West not to continue arguing after she's ruled on an issue. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

It's about time.  He has been extremely disrespectful of the court.  Even O'mara has had to keep him in check a few times.

I agree that alleging child abuse at this point is wrong and am glad Nelson disallowed it.  Should have been a charge from the get go as Zimmerman admitted to knowing Trayvon was a child which makes his actions that night even worse, but it would be unfair to the defendant to include it just prior to closing.

I see the judge hasn't ruled on this issue yet. 

If she allows it she is going to have to delay closings until next week to give the defense more time to prepare.

That said, I do not believe she will allow it. 


The judge has ruled.

July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Lawyers are now working to finalize jury instructions before state's closing argument. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Breaking: #ZimmermanTrial jurors will not be allowed to consider third-degree felony murder, judge rules. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:17:08 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 ::rhino::

I just watched the video of the exchange.  Nelson was not forcing Zimmerman to make up his mind about testifying, she was merely asking if he knew yet whether or not he would and she made it clear he could give her an answer later after the defense ended.  I believe she was trying to keep a tight timeline and prepare for George possibly taking the stand.  At this point she was done with West and his disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqO1M1J3sE

The fat,ugly ass cow overuled West before she even knew what the objection was about. How's that for disrespect?

She knew exactly what his objection was going to be and she addressed it.   ::CowWave::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:17:19 PM
I don't think that Judge Nelson had any choice but to deny the Third degree murder Child abuse charges. That was such a stretch that it would have created such a poor precedent and obvious appeal situation that it would have affected cases forever in the future.

Also, if the jury convicted GZ of it and an Appeals Court struck it down, guess who would walk free?

I have to admit that it was a pretty sleazy move on the part of the prosecution as they had obviously been planning to do this for quite some time. It also tells me that they know they have a weak, weak case.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:17:53 PM
Zimmerman Attorney Don West Loses his Mind at the Prosecution For Introducing Third Degree Felony Murder Child Abuse Charge … Tells Court, ‘This Was A Trick’ (UPDATE: Judge Disallows Third Degree Murder Child Abuse Charges)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/11/zimmerman-attorney-don-west-loses-his-mind-at-the-prosecution-for-introducing-child-abuse-charge-tells-court-this-was-a-trick/

UPDATE I: Judge Debra Nelson disallows the State’s attempt to charge George Zimmerman with the ridiculous charge of Third Degree Felony Murder Child Abuse.
 ::snipping3::

Sorry, I'm multi-multitasking... she didn't allow it after all.

Right.  She didn't allow it.  I had posted the tweet copy with the information before I saw your post recognizing she disallowed it.  Whew!  Who's on first?  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:20:30 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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(opened tweet conversation)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Yes. Must be unanimous. MT @TubsWife: @JeffWeinerOS Do all the jurors have to agree?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
30 year maximum is enhanced sentence. Otherwise would be max 15. MT @enc0ur: But can't it be enhanced if a firearm is involved?

RETWEET JusticeForZimmerman
10:19 AM - 11 Jul 13 · Details

 John Kopecky ‏@jkopecky 13s
@JeffWeinerOS Didn't catch it, what variety of manslaughter specifically is included? Voluntary or Involuntary?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:21:10 PM
Zimmerman Attorney Don West Loses his Mind at the Prosecution For Introducing Third Degree Felony Murder Child Abuse Charge … Tells Court, ‘This Was A Trick’ (UPDATE: Judge Disallows Third Degree Murder Child Abuse Charges)
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/11/zimmerman-attorney-don-west-loses-his-mind-at-the-prosecution-for-introducing-child-abuse-charge-tells-court-this-was-a-trick/

UPDATE I: Judge Debra Nelson disallows the State’s attempt to charge George Zimmerman with the ridiculous charge of Third Degree Felony Murder Child Abuse.
 ::snipping3::

Sorry, I'm multi-multitasking... she didn't allow it after all.

Right.  She didn't allow it.  I had posted the tweet copy with the information before I saw your post recognizing she disallowed it.  Whew!  Who's on first?  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Clearly I'm on third and trying to keep up.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:23:27 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
#ZimmermanTrial: Jury can consider manslaughter, not 3rd-deg felony murder | Updated: http://bit.ly/1554c2z  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 jimmy burgemeir ‏@jburg61 2m
@JeffWeinerOS will you give your opinion of the trial after the verdict?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 37s
@jburg61 No, I don't give opinions on the cases I cover.
10:24 AM - 11 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 01:24:37 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 ::rhino::

I just watched the video of the exchange.  Nelson was not forcing Zimmerman to make up his mind about testifying, she was merely asking if he knew yet whether or not he would and she made it clear he could give her an answer later after the defense ended.  I believe she was trying to keep a tight timeline and prepare for George possibly taking the stand.  At this point she was done with West and his disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqO1M1J3sE

The fat,ugly ass cow overuled West before she even knew what the objection was about. How's that for disrespect?

She knew exactly what his objection was going to be and she addressed it.   ::CowWave::
Where in Law school do they teach mind reading? West needs it on the record for the appeals.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:25:24 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Not a capital case. In FL, only capital cases get 12. MT @Melissalevy1992: @JeffWeinerOS @TubsWife Why are there only 6 jurors?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:26:37 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 56s
@jkopecky I think they settled on manslaughter by intentional act, but not 100 percent. Final jury instructions should be online soon.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39s
FYI all: State gets to split closing. State will do first part today, then defense tomorrow a.m., then state again. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:30:27 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 ::rhino::

I just watched the video of the exchange.  Nelson was not forcing Zimmerman to make up his mind about testifying, she was merely asking if he knew yet whether or not he would and she made it clear he could give her an answer later after the defense ended.  I believe she was trying to keep a tight timeline and prepare for George possibly taking the stand.  At this point she was done with West and his disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqO1M1J3sE

The problem with this is she was out of line to ask it at that point of the trial. The Defense had not ended their case yet, they still had two more witnesses at least to go. It is protocol for the defendant to be asked this at the end. Heck, why didn't she ask it at the beginning of the trial for that matter? What if one of the final two witnesses bombed completely and the State extracted some evidence/testimony from them that would have forced Zimmerman to take the stand, after  he had said to the Court that he was not? That is why it is standard to wait until the end. When West objected, she should have just said, ok you need more time and left it at that, not cause a hostile environment.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:30:38 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
Nelson remids West of professional conduct, says if she's wrong, "you will appeal, if there is a conviction." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge denies request for instruction that following someone is not illegal. West says that's an error. #ZimmermanTrial

After yesterday's Judge Nelson harassing and argumentative behavior toward the defense and badgering Zimmerman whether he was going to testify before the end of the Defense's case, I would dare say that she needs to be brought up on judicial conduct charges.

 ::rhino::

I just watched the video of the exchange.  Nelson was not forcing Zimmerman to make up his mind about testifying, she was merely asking if he knew yet whether or not he would and she made it clear he could give her an answer later after the defense ended.  I believe she was trying to keep a tight timeline and prepare for George possibly taking the stand.  At this point she was done with West and his disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqO1M1J3sE

The fat,ugly ass cow overuled West before she even knew what the objection was about. How's that for disrespect?

She knew exactly what his objection was going to be and she addressed it.   ::CowWave::
Where in Law school do they teach mind reading? West needs it on the record for the appeals.

She didn't do anything appealable in this instance.

She only asked him if he knew yet whether or not he would be testifying.  She did not make him decide at that moment and clearly let him know he could take his time deciding and inform her later.  She only wanted to know if he knew yet and West, like he's done over and over again, wanted to take up more of the courts time unnecessarily.  He doesn't listen very well and it's a problem.  She's had to countlessly repeat herself to him and rephrase questions to keep him on task.  I bet he has a history of pissing judges off.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
Ladies and gentlemen, Bernie de la Rionda. He walks into the c-room for the first time today. Facing biggest closing argument of his career.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:32:15 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
No, he won't testify. RT @kylejack: @JeffWeinerOS How was prior Zimmerman arrest issue resolved? No rebuttal from alcohol agent?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:33:06 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 51s
As state prepares for closing, employees carry in #Trayvon's hoodie, shirt, #Zimmerman's jacket. Audio-visual gal hooking up PC.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:33:59 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17s
#ZimmermanTrial: State to give closing argument | Watch: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Court is back in session. Jury to return for state closing. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:34:23 PM
I was thinking about some thing yesterday when they did the "dummy" reenactment of the crime with TM on top and GZ on the bottom ... the State tried to get the witness to say that the gun shot angle could be at 90 degrees with TM leaning back.

However, that is 100% in disagreement with autopsy (gun shot wound, entry, area around wound) and expert testimony of pathologist Vincent Di Maio that the clothing was hanging down. Which could not happen if TM was leaning backward. Look for defense to use that in closing argument to jury.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:35:31 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15s
Judge Nelson notes state hasn't technically rested in front of jury. That's next, then instructions for closing. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:35:55 PM
Hi Red.  I agree it wasn't protocol but it's seems pretty clear Nelson's focus is keeping this trial to a tight timeline.  May have a lot to do with security costs and operations assumed by Sanford and outlying areas.  I think she only wanted to know if Zimmerman had decided to testify and wasn't trying to pressure him into deciding.

If there are protests after this trial any violence will be quashed VERY quickly, IMO. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 01:37:55 PM
Does anyone have a link where the closing can be watched live on line?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: flamom on July 11, 2013, 01:38:28 PM
@mhilgtx: #hoodies #corrupit Judge Nelson "Do you have anything to say before I pass sentence on your client?" Don West "Can we have a trial first?"
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we agree....   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:39:14 PM
I was thinking about some thing yesterday when they did the "dummy" reenactment of the crime with TM on top and GZ on the bottom ... the State tried to get the witness to say that the gun shot angle could be at 90 degrees with TM leaning back.

However, that is 100% in disagreement with autopsy (gun shot wound, entry, area around wound) and expert testimony of pathologist Vincent Di Maio that the clothing was hanging down. Which could not happen if TM was leaning backward. Look for defense to use that in closing argument to jury.


I can try to find it in a bit, but I thought in the State's opening statement, GZ and TM were in standing position, with GZ shooting TM at close range.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Kermit on July 11, 2013, 01:39:59 PM
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They viewed the video posted of the judge asking George Zimmerman questions about his testifying.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/11/judicial-bias-highly-contentious-exchange-between-judge-debra-nelson-and-zimmerman-defense-attorney-west-judge-nelson-badgers-defendant-as-defense-attorney-objects-over-ruled/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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bob frier ‏@bfrier 2m
Judge Nelson says there will be a break an hour into State's closing argument.  #fox35 @TennisLaw @DonellAyalaEsq  @judgealexferrer
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
To clarify: State didn't rest its rebuttal case.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:40:27 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The state decided not to call FDLE to present #Zimmermanon9 's reenacted screams.

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The jury last heard a state rebuttal witness being questioned. The state was not allowed to proceed. The state has to rest. #Zimmermanon9

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  6m 
If #GeorgeZimmerman is convicted of 2nd degree murder, he faces life in prison. If it's manslaughter, up to 30 years. #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:41:51 PM
Does anyone have a link where the closing can be watched live on line?

Here's one.  I'm sure there are others.

July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17s
#ZimmermanTrial: State to give closing argument | Watch: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Court is back in session. Jury to return for state closing. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:43:08 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

 WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  1m 
#Zimmermantrial prosecution about to begin closing arguments. WATCH LIVE: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state is about to start its closing argument. #Zimmermanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
After it was done under very similar conditions though, the FBI determined you could not recreate the fear. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:43:19 PM
July 11, 20113 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: "Unfortunately, because his assumptions were wrong, Trayvon Benjamin Martin no longer walks on this Earth." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: "A teenager is dead. He is dead through no fault of his own... because another man made assumptions." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR rests state's rebuttal case. Nelson tells jury final arguments aren't evidence or law instruction, just arguments. #ZimmermanTrial

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 3m
Angela Corey now sitting in 1st bench behind prosecutors. Instead of the table.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Jury returning to court now for closing arguments. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:44:12 PM
Does anyone have a link where the closing can be watched live on line?

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:44:22 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 38s
BDLR: After shot, did #GeorgeZimmerman attempt "to bring life back into that young boy" like officers did? #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin dead "because of the actions of one individual, the man before you, the defendant #GeorgeZimmerman." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 41s
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "matter of fact" after shooting. "Those acts, those actions speak volumes." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:45:57 PM
July 11, 2913 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state showed the jury the autopsy photo of Martin and said it was one of the last photos taken of him. #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:46:47 PM
I was thinking about some thing yesterday when they did the "dummy" reenactment of the crime with TM on top and GZ on the bottom ... the State tried to get the witness to say that the gun shot angle could be at 90 degrees with TM leaning back.

However, that is 100% in disagreement with autopsy (gun shot wound, entry, area around wound) and expert testimony of pathologist Vincent Di Maio that the clothing was hanging down. Which could not happen if TM was leaning backward. Look for defense to use that in closing argument to jury.


I can try to find it in a bit, but I thought in the State's opening statement, GZ and TM were in standing position, with GZ shooting TM at close range.

You are correct, but they changed their theory in at the end of the case because it became obvious through witness testimony that TM was on top. They even showed that during the "dummy" reenactment. Not good for State as they now pretty much say that TM was on top.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:47:27 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
Bernie: Opens quietly but he gets loud in a hurry, shows jurors a morgue photo of #Trayvon. Blameless 17-yo dead because of #Zimmerman.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Florida, US

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Events leading to #TrayvonMartin shooting began "months before" the shooting. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:47:57 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7s 
He played #Zimmermanon9 's statement that started with talking about the past crimes that led him to start neighborhood watch.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state says #Zimmermanon9 never tried to rescue Martin after Zimmerman says the teenager had beaten him.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:48:53 PM
I was thinking about some thing yesterday when they did the "dummy" reenactment of the crime with TM on top and GZ on the bottom ... the State tried to get the witness to say that the gun shot angle could be at 90 degrees with TM leaning back.

However, that is 100% in disagreement with autopsy (gun shot wound, entry, area around wound) and expert testimony of pathologist Vincent Di Maio that the clothing was hanging down. Which could not happen if TM was leaning backward. Look for defense to use that in closing argument to jury.


I can try to find it in a bit, but I thought in the State's opening statement, GZ and TM were in standing position, with GZ shooting TM at close range.

You are correct, but they changed their theory in at the end of the case because it became obvious through witness testimony that TM was on top. They even showed that during the "dummy" reenactment. Not good for State as they now pretty much say that TM was on top.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:49:49 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Starting neighborhood watch wasn't anything "sinister... nothing sinister or wrong with that." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR plays #GeorgeZimmerman interview from night of shooting. GZ: "The neighborhood has had a lot of crimes..." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43s
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin "was minding his own business" but #GeorgeZImmerman decided "he was up to no good." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin went to store, bought Skittles & Arizona drink. "That was his crime." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: But in this case, #GeorgeZimmerman "profiled him as a criminal... and that is what led to his death." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 01:50:58 PM
I feel bad for the jury, I have a volume control.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:51:56 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin doing "a normal everyday thing," walking back from store. Wearing hoodie, "last I heard, that's not against the law."
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:52:40 PM
I feel bad for the jury, I have a volume control.

 ::MonkeyDevil:: 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:53:29 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman pursued, didn't wait "for the police to come & do their job." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman called cops, "then he followed him, he tracked him... in the defendant's mind, this was a criminal." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:54:51 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The state says #Zimmermanon9 trapped Martin, even though he said Martin approached his car and Zimmerman never stopped him from running.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:54:59 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 48s
BDLR: "Who was more scared," the "kid" being followed by man in a truck? "That is the person" scared, "I would submit." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZImmerman decided #TrayvonMartin was a criminal. "That is why we're here," not self-defense. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman decided that "he was gonna be what he wanted to be, a police officer." But police are trained. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 01:55:39 PM
Hmm, I have to wonder if the prosecution keeps saying what GZ did was a "good thing" is not a bad thing for the prosecution.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:55:57 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "part" of NW, "I would submit he was the Neighborhood Watch." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 01:56:40 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
E6 is not taking notes now.. After taking notes the entire trial. Others are taking some notes. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:57:56 PM
Hmm, I have to wonder if the prosecution keeps saying what GZ did was a "good thing" is not a bad thing for the prosecution.



I wondered about that too.  But then maybe they're just sneaky, like when they tried to shoehorn the third degree murder/child abuse charge.  I'd say he's just winding up, so we need to wait for it.  JMHO 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
Fn punk-2

Ahole-3


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:59:04 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 38s
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman decided "that #TrayvonMartin was a f***ing punk, and he was an asshole... wasn't going to get away this time."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: "To quote the defendant, and pardon my language, he was one of those assholes who get away... those f***ing punks." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin unarmed, unless you "would consider Skittles" or tea a weapon. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 01:59:55 PM
Fn punk-2

Ahole-3

We knew that was coming, right?  And GZ said "punks" not punk, meaning the ones that got away, not TM.  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:00:53 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Law doesn't allow "people to take the law into their own hands." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: "The law talks about accountability and responsibility for one's actions...  Hold him accountable for what he did." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 02:01:05 PM
Who knew that every time at work when I mumble under my breath an expletive or call some one a moron or incompetent that it was hate and not what it really is but "frustration".

All of the prosecutions closing argument would have been in shambles if the Judge had allowed TM's texts from his phone into evidence. JMO.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:02:13 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31s
BDLR: "Is it really self defense when you follow somebody... profile somebody?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR on #GeorgeZimmerman: "He's a wannabe cop. He's going to take care of it." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: "This defendant didn't give #TrayvonMartin a chance." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:03:19 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
So far the state has not yet referenced any evidence that #Zimmermanon9 started the confrontation.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:05:01 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state said #Zimmermanon9 was "the equalizer" .. a "wanna be cop"

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The state says Martin is dead because #Zimmermanon9 made wrong assumptions that the teenager was up to no good.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:06:25 PM
Who knew that every time at work when I mumble under my breath an expletive or call some one a moron or incompetent that it was hate and not what it really is but "frustration".

All of the prosecutions closing argument would have been in shambles if the Judge had allowed TM's texts from his phone into evidence. JMO.

It would be interesting if someone could come across a video clip or recording of one of the prosecutors mumbling under their breath from frustration  hate when the parking valet wasn't fast enough or the dry cleaners lost their suit.  I wonder if they've ever gotten frustrated  hateful with their paralegals?   ::MonkeyDevil::  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:06:50 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state says #Zimmermanon9 kept denying he followed Martin because he knew it was evidence of ill will under the law.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:07:32 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR on #GeorgeZimmerman: "He doesn't know the main street you go in?" Says GZ covering for following #TrayvonMartin, "shows his guilt."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman said later he didn't follow #TrayvonMartin, because knew that "showed that ill will, hatred." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: We introduced #GeorgeZimmerman's statements, "want to tell you all the evidence... the complete story." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:09:09 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman studied the self-defense law, knew "what's required," shaped story to fit. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@Melissalevy1992 @dlkuba4 @TubsWife 2nd degree is not a capital charge in Florida.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: "The defendant in an attempt to convince the police... he had to exaggerate what happened." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: Only two people saw all that happened. "The defendant silenced #TrayvonMartin." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:10:09 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR shows jurors slide with assumptions, things #GeorgeZimmerman didn't do, like ask if #TrayvonMartin needed help. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@Cosmickitten2 Life.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:11:05 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The state suggested after #Zimmermanon9 found Martin suspicious he should have told him that or offered Martin a ride.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 41s
BDLR tells jurors to "use your God given common sense" in weighing inconsistencies. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman also didn't identify himself. "Did he wait for the police? No." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
So far the state has not yet referenced any evidence that #Zimmermanon9 started the confrontation.


Kathi Belich makes a great point. There is just no there, there in the prosecutions case. Its all based on assumptions. The State has the burden of proof and all they have is assumptions and little to no evidence, just the emotion that some one died.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:12:54 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: If people are allowed to take law into own hands, "why do we have courtrooms? Why do we have jurors?" #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR thanks the jurors for their service, says he speaks that on behalf of everybody, including defense. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:15:22 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
So far the state has not yet referenced any evidence that #Zimmermanon9 started the confrontation.


Kathi Belich makes a great point. There is just no there, there in the prosecutions case. Its all based on assumptions. The State has the burden of proof and all they have is assumptions and little to no evidence, just the emotion that some one died.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:15:42 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 45s
BDLR: Just verdict would be "that this defendant is guilty of murder in the second-degree." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR asks jurors to rely on 3 things: Witnesses, the law, "your God given common sense." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:16:10 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
So far the state has not yet referenced any evidence that #Zimmermanon9 started the confrontation.


Kathi Belich makes a great point. There is just no there, there in the prosecutions case. Its all based on assumptions. The State has the burden of proof and all they have is assumptions and little to no evidence, just the emotion that some one died.

 ::rhino::


 ::rhino:: ::rhino::
 ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:17:04 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR tells jurors to consider "Who followed who?" and "Who was armed?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR to jury: "Do you believe that there is an innocent man sitting over there right now?" #ZImmermanTrial #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:19:06 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR on Jeantel: "She's a human being, she spoke as best she could." Mentions Haitian descent. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Jurors shown state's timeline, with 911 calls, #TrayvonMartin's Rachel Jeantel call, #GeorgeZimmerman's call. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:20:22 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Jeantel could've left #TrayvonMartin "cracker" comment out of testimony. "She didn't come in here and lie to you about that."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: "She was the person that was speaking to the victim." Phone records establish that, but only she knew what was said. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:21:46 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 37s
BDLR: Focus on "what she said #TrayvonMartin said, and isn't it consistent with the evidence?" #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR stressing Jeantel's lack of "sophistication," asks jurors if they'd disregard her because of that. #ZimmermanTrail #GeorgeZimmerman
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:22:41 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 45s
BDLR uses variation of MLK dream speech quote, asks jury to judge Jeantel "on the content of her testimony." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:23:38 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The public seating area is not full. Several empty seats in the back row. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:25:11 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Jeantel lied about hospital trip. "She's guilty of that, she didn't want to go out to see the body." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: Jeantel warned #TrayvonMartin that #GeorgeZImmerman could've been "a sexual pervert." ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:26:00 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The state wants to put a good spin on Rachel Jeantel's lies about her age, going to the funeral and the changes to her story. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Jeantel could've left #TrayvonMartin "cracker" comment out of testimony. "She didn't come in here and lie to you about that."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: "She was the person that was speaking to the victim." Phone records establish that, but only she knew what was said. #ZimmermanTrial

Actually what this sadly shows is a cultural racism because she does not even realize what she is saying is wrong or a racial slur. Imagine in 2013 that some one does not realize that saying that was wrong? Imagine if it was GZ who had used the "N" word. Think the prosecution would be caling that just the acts of a simple person? Hardly.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:26:38 PM
July 11,2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Why mutter "assholes" line, "other than that's how he feels?" Mentions ill-will, hatred. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR plays #GeorgeZImmerman's non-emergency call, "These assholes, they always get away." Doesn't it show "what he was feeling at the time."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:28:46 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman said he didn't know street name, but referred to it by name in later interview. "He let out that that was a lie."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: "Why was it necessary to utter the words effing punk" if hadn't decided "that #TrayvonMartin was a criminal." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:29:43 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 45s
BDLR: Selena Bahadoor had good vantage point, "She thought the bigger man was on top." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR now talks about Lauer 911 call (screams). "She heard something going on out there" before call, not sudden like #GeorgeZimmerman says.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:30:36 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 38s
BDLR: To believe #GeorgeZimmerman, "you've got to believe he wasn't following anybody... just minding his own business." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:31:41 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19s
BDLR brings up John Good, neighbor who said #TrayvonMartin was on top. "He saw prior to the shooting." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: To believe GZ, have to believe #TrayvonMartin attacked for no reason, "poor #GeorgeZimmerman, he just kinda took it." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:32:34 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  27s 
Juror E 40 is leaning her head on her hand. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Juror B 29 is avoiding eye contact with the prosecutor. She's in the front row. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:32:49 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 47s
BDLR: I'd submit, "that there was a fight, there was a struggle." #GeorgeZimmerman is "the one that's had MMA traning." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:33:56 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15s
BDLR: When Good was asked if he actually saw punches, "he said no," saw "movement" but not blows. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
BDLR: "Was it necessary to shoot" #TrayvonMartin? Defense will "parade" #GeorgeZImmerman injury photos, but TM autopsy photo more important.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
BDLR: Possible #TrayvonMartin was trying to protect himself from #GeorgeZImmerman's gun? "Is that what the struggle was about?"


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 02:35:07 PM
WOW did everyone hear that and I hope the Appeals Court did as well ... prosecution in closing argument just said with regards to Zimmerman having MMA training "... at least he had some training of some fighting, he was the only one".

Thank you Judge Nelson for disallowing Trayvon's text messages on his double password phone of the fights that he was constantly in. That is truly unfortunate that the jury is not getting a true image of TM and his past history of fighting and aggression. 




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:36:04 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZImmerman told friend Osterman "that the victim had grabbed the gun," but no DNA. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:36:58 PM
WOW did everyone hear that and I hope the Appeals Court did as well ... prosecution in closing argument just said with regards to Zimmerman having MMA training "... at least he had some training of some fighting, he was the only one".

Thank you Judge Nelson for disallowing Trayvon's text messages on his double password phone of the fights that he was constantly in. That is truly unfortunate that the jury is not getting a true image of TM and his past history of fighting and aggression. 




 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "claims that #TrayvonMartin is the strongest guy in the world." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR argues witness testimony is consistent with Jeantel's testimony. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  24s 
The state is askng the jury whether #Zimmermanon9 walked down to Martin's father's girlfriend's place after Martin without offering proof.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The state seens to be conceding again that Martin might have been on top and struggling over #Zimmermanon9 's guns.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The state referred to #Zimmermanon9 's injuries and said Martin suffered the worst injury


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:39:35 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR conceeds there was a struggle, "at some points the victim was on top." But "why did it occur.?" #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 41s
BDLR: No dispute it was dark, raining. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: "Who started it? Who was following who? Who was chasing who?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:41:33 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Photos show "the absence of blood on that sidewalk." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:42:33 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The state keeps saying #Zimmermanon9 told his neighbor to tell his wife he killed someone. That is not the testimony. The defense let it go.

 Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
@TheBluto @WFTV's live stream is uncensored: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:42:45 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57s
BDLR shows jurors evidence photos, #GeorgeZimmerman's flashlight. Says GZ used to "track down #TrayvonMartin." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:43:39 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin "was speaking on the phone and he had ear plugs (buds) or whatever you call them." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:45:05 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Jurors see more postmortem #TrayvonMartin photos. BDLR: "You see any blood on the victim's hands?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 02:46:17 PM
George's story that Trayvon 'somehow' got Zimmerman many yards away from the T intersection is absurd.  I stated that the first time I watched George's reenactment.  At that time I also stated I believe George showed Trayvon he was armed and as a result Trayvon was forced to defend himself.

George's story that he didn't fight back is also ridiculous.  Even the smallest of girls would fight back.  I agree with the prosecutor that there was a struggle that went on prior to witnesses seeing them on the ground.

Trayvon did not just attack George for no reason. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:46:25 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  16s 
The state is showing photos of the scene and questioning #Zimmermanon9 's claim to be looking for an address but no proof of following.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The state appears to be trying to create doubt about #Zimmermanon9 's story rather than proving the case beyond a reasonable doubt.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:48:39 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6s
BDLR: DNA on pistol grip matches #GeorgeZimmerman, #TrayvonMartin excluded. "Inconsistent" with statement to Osterman. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman claimed he spread #TrayvonMartin's arms "because it's part of him wanting to be a cop," that's what cops do.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Jurors see #TrayvonMartin shooting scene photo. BDLR: "Where are the victim's hands but under his body." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Jurors see neighbor's photo w/blood on back of #GeorgeZimmerman's head. "Why would the blood not be on the victim's hands." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR shows front of townhouses, says he didn't need to walk thru sidewalk T to get location for police. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:51:56 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Time for 15 minute recess, before BDLR continues state's closing argument. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: If TM was smothering GZ & GZ yelling, "Why isn't it muffled down?... is he lying about that? I would submit to you that's another lie"

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: No #GeorgeZimmerman DNA in #TrayvonMartin nail scrapes. "Where did all the blood go? Where did all the defendant's blood go?"


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 02:53:14 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
15 minute recess #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 02:53:24 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#ZimmermanTrial: Prosecutor says 'assumptions' & 'profiling' led to #TrayvonMartin's death | Story: http://bit.ly/1554c2z  #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 02:53:54 PM
Bill Sheaffer: WFTV legal analyst just said that it was a poor closing argument for the prosecution.

Their job is to prove and set out how they proved their case in how George Zimmerman committed the crime not poke holes in the defense's case.

Bill Sheaffer would not give a grade, but he said it was poor.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 02:55:06 PM
The prosecutor's style is not effective, IMO. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:02:37 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@Bogoroh Can't really predict verdict timing. However long jurors take to deliberate.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@Bogoroh If you're in Orlando, Fox 35 has been playing uncensored audio. Video is pool, should be the same everywhere.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 03:03:03 PM
Minimums;

Fn punk(s)-4

Aholes-7


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 03:03:26 PM
I agree with Schaeffer... Trayvon is not being represented well at all.

I would go further and state the cards have been stacked against this kid from the moment Zimmerman laid eyes on him.  George's knowledge of the law and hunger to be some kind of hero, the piss poor investigation, the media attention, the race issue, the prosecutor, and more has all worked to prevent justice from being served.

I note that George exhibits shame and guilt in his expressions as the prosecutor presents his closing arguments.  IMO George knows what he's done, he knows the death of Trayvon is his fault, and he will have to live with that and answer for it upon his own death.





Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:07:09 PM
July 11, 2013
Jurors mentioned in tweets by Kathi...
From "The Jury" area at SM:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14277.0

E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her two adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night. She has lived in Seminole County for eight years, and is married to an engineer. She was arrested in Brevard County, but said she "was treated completely fairly." Her husband has guns.

B-29: A nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who is black or Hispanic, has several children, is married and lived in Chicago at the time of shooting. She said she doesn't watch the news, preferring reality television: "Right when we got here, I got cable... I love my reality shows." During jury selection, she said she was arrested once in Chicago.

E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed. She described herself as safety officer, is married to a chemical engineer and loves football. She has a 28-year-old son who's out of work. She said she's very well versed in cell phone technology, and has been a victim of crime.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: theboyzmom on July 11, 2013, 03:07:25 PM
George's story that Trayvon 'somehow' got Zimmerman many yards away from the T intersection is absurd.  I stated that the first time I watched George's reenactment.  At that time I also stated I believe George showed Trayvon he was armed and as a result Trayvon was forced to defend himself.

George's story that he didn't fight back is also ridiculous.  Even the smallest of girls would fight back.  I agree with the prosecutor that there was a struggle that went on prior to witnesses seeing them on the ground.

Trayvon did not just attack George for no reason. 
BBM - and GZ did not attack him for no reason. IF he had planned to just beat TM up or kill him, why call the police?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 03:08:43 PM
I agree with Schaeffer... Trayvon is not being represented well at all.

I would go further and state the cards have been stacked against this kid from the moment Zimmerman laid eyes on him.  George's knowledge of the law and hunger to be some kind of hero, the piss poor investigation, the media attention, the race issue, the prosecutor, and more has all worked to prevent justice from being served.

I note that George exhibits shame and guilt in his expressions as the prosecutor presents his closing arguments.  IMO George knows what he's done, he knows the death of Trayvon is his fault, and he will have to live with that and answer for it upon his own death.

I am not sure if you can go by how some one looks. Unless one is a sociopath like Casey Anthony or Joran Van der Sloot, being front and center in the defendants chair of a murder case, whether you are innocent or guilty, it is an unnerving and pressuring situation that is beyond imagine. JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: theboyzmom on July 11, 2013, 03:09:37 PM
I agree with Schaeffer... Trayvon is not being represented well at all.

I would go further and state the cards have been stacked against this kid from the moment Zimmerman laid eyes on him.  George's knowledge of the law and hunger to be some kind of hero, the piss poor investigation, the media attention, the race issue, the prosecutor, and more has all worked to prevent justice from being served.

I note that George exhibits shame and guilt in his expressions as the prosecutor presents his closing arguments.  IMO George knows what he's done, he knows the death of Trayvon is his fault, and he will have to live with that and answer for it upon his own death.





I respectfully disagree - GZ is exhibiting shame because taking a life, justified or not, is not a pleasant or desirable thing to most people. It would bother me more if GZ was gloating.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: alagary on July 11, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
Red  Is this the first trial watch on here where it seems most are on the side of the defendant?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 03:13:58 PM
George's story that Trayvon 'somehow' got Zimmerman many yards away from the T intersection is absurd.  I stated that the first time I watched George's reenactment.  At that time I also stated I believe George showed Trayvon he was armed and as a result Trayvon was forced to defend himself.

George's story that he didn't fight back is also ridiculous.  Even the smallest of girls would fight back.  I agree with the prosecutor that there was a struggle that went on prior to witnesses seeing them on the ground.

Trayvon did not just attack George for no reason. 
BBM - and GZ did not attack him for no reason. IF he had planned to just beat TM up or kill him, why call the police?

He didn't plan it.  He planned to easily detain the 'suspect' until police arrived.  He's an idiot.  IMO.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:16:30 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "knew that there wasn't any videotaping out there of this," so didn't fall for Serino's ploy. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman was "caught" in multiple lies in his statements/interviews. #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: GZ had gun, "wanting to make sure that" #TrayvonMartin "didn't get away." Now, GZ wants to get off because "killed the only witness."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: Dr. Di Maio said you can hit someone & hand's not bruised, "that could also be true for #GeorgeZimmerman's hands." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Watch #ZimmermanTrial closings live: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Court is back in session, jury is being brought back. Bernie de la Rionda to continue state's argument. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:17:30 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman said #TrayvonMartin circling car scared him. "If he's really that in fear of him, why does he get out of the car?"

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Jury hears audio of #GeorgeZimmerman saying he didn't know street name, #TrayvonMartin circling his car. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 53s
BDLR: If #GeorgeZimmerman not sure shot hit #TrayvonMartin "what the heck is he doing holstering his gun if he's so scared?" #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR shows jurors #GeorgeZimmerman's gun & holster. Says hidden holster, small gun. "How did the victim see this in the darkness?"

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: In #GeorgeZimmerman's account, #TrayvonMartin must've reached for gun with "third hand." Adds: "Does that make sense?" #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin "must've had like 10 hands out there, or 10 arms" to do everything #GeorgeZimmerman says he did. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman's "gotta convince the police... that he was just kinda walking & the victim came out of nowhere." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:25:43 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  45s 
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin must have had more than two arms if he was beating #ZimmermanOn9 into the ground as well as reaching for the gun.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
O'Mara has objected the closing argument claiming misrepresentation of case law. Nelson will rule at the end of the day. #ZimmermanOn9

Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  3m 
Jury taking few notes, but all eyes on state prosecutor. #ZIMMERMANon9.
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
BDLR is replaying the recorded #ZimmermanOn9 statement.  BDLR is claiming the recording shows GZ didn't know street name.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
BDLR: #ZimmermanOn9 killed the only witness - #TrayvonMartin.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
BDLR: If one person is shot dead, and the other person lies - why would that person lie? #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
Back in court.  State is continuing their closing arguments. #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:28:19 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
BDLR: (Playing the #ZimmermanOn9 recorded statement to Jury) Why is GZ holstering the gun if he wasn't even sure he shot #TravyonMartin.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
BDLR: How did #TravyonMartin see the gun when it's tucked in, behind #ZimmermanOn9 - in the dark?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 11, 2013, 03:28:44 PM
The Prosecutor’s closing statements appear to be supporting a charge of Manslaughter … not 2nd Degree Murder.

Is the NEW charge of Manslaughter requested by the Prosecution and upheld by the Judiciary all about assuring GZ does not walk? Could it be that this has been the strategy of the Prosecution and Judiciary from the getgo? Think about it. The Defence has put all their resources throughout the trial into defending a 2nd Degree Murder charge rather than a Manslaughter charge … a charge not supported by the Prosecution’s case. What is wrong with this picture?

Could it be that GZ is being framed by the Prosecutor, Judiciary and "higher ups"  to appease the majority within Black community? In other words … race is the issue … not justice.

Janet

+++++

Jury can consider manslaughter charge in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 2013


Zimmerman’s lead attorney, Mark O’Mara, told reporters Wednesday after resting his case that the jury’s only option should be the second-degree murder charge brought by prosecutors. If jurors are unable to convict Zimmerman of murder, then he should be acquitted, O’Mara said, because the shooting on Feb. 26, 2012 was intentional

“What George did was an intentional act that he knew he was pulling the trigger, the reason why he did it was self-defense and that doesn’t suggest the manslaughter charge would be appropriate,” O’Mara said.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/


Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe ‘taken away from us’
Wed July 10, 2013


The George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked "in a number of ways" by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.

Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial, told CNN's George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.

<snipped>

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/justice/sanford-bill-lee-exclusive/index.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:29:16 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "claims that he went for the phone," has to explain why #TrayvonMartin overpowered him. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman "profiled a 17-year-old boy that had Skittles." Shows jurors Skittles each time he mentions them. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Sister on July 11, 2013, 03:29:25 PM
The prosecutor's style is not effective, IMO. 

And I'm afraid it isn't getting any better.  JMO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:31:04 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

eff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: No proof #GeorgeZimmerman had broken nose. Physician assistant recommended X-ray, GZ "refused or declined to do that." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: "Was he going for his phone, or was he going for his gun?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:32:11 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26s
BDLR on #GeorgeZImmerman's statements: "He's trying to make up one lie, after another, after another." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57s
BDLR on #GeorgeZimmerman cuts: "How small were they?" Reminds jurors of physician assistant demontrating w/fingers. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:33:07 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29s
BDLR on #GeorgeZimmerman account: "of course, this criminal put his hands over my mouth and said 'You're gonna die tonight." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:34:10 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
BDLR: Where are all the scrapes & scratch marks on the jacket?  Why doesn't it show on the jacket #ZimmermanOn9 was wearing?

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
BDLR questions - who was following who? #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
BDLR continues to play parts of the recorded #ZimmermanOn9 statement.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:35:57 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
BDLR tells jury that #ZimmermanOn9 made one lie after another after another.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
E6 has 2 notebooks going. Looks as though she's comparing notes. #Zimmermanon9 - @RHughesWFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:38:44 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR says #GeorgeZimmerman slipped up, said "When I walked back toward him... I saw him coming at me." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
BDLR argues that #ZimmermanOn9 is inconsistent in the recorded statement "When I walked back toward him -- I saw him coming toward me"


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:40:40 PM
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
BDLR tells jury - 'boy, that's a crime! Standing in the grass on a Sunday Night". Showing pieces of the #ZimmermanOn9 recorded statement.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
Red  Is this the first trial watch on here where it seems most are on the side of the defendant?

I thought the same thing and tried to put my finger on it. I honestly think that because from the outset it did not seem to be about a crime, but about racial tensions and force being brought to bear against individuals to force them to try GZ. I am a victims rights advocate and always will be, but that does not mean that if some one accuses another of a crime or tries to railroad some one, I will not cry foul.

I think the whole case is unfortunate. Sadly Trayvon died. But this is what happens ever day when two people come in contact with one another where one is gasoline and the other is fire. But most cases do not get the attention as this one did.

I think many cases are pretty evident as to who did what. This one is not. And the fact that the prosecution has done such a poor job is breath taking.

I know many people that are a part of a neighborhood watch and frankly, many take the same attitude that if the see something suspicious, they don't just dismiss it.

I think the idea that the State and MSM wanted to falsely portray TM as a 12 year old innocent choir boy and GZ as a racists with doctored tapes stuck a nerve with people.

I believe that in the end, every one wants justice, but they want it to be fair, not some one being railroaded because of some agenda that has nothing to do with the law and justice.  (JMO)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:43:40 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 3m
E6 taking notes as video of GZ is shown.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 TY Wright ‏@Tru2TY 5m
BDLR "Why does he have to lie about that?  Because he doesn't want to admit he was following this innocent young boy" #ZimmermanTrial
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman gave street name in video reenactment he said earlier he couldn't remember. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Jurors see #GeorgeZimmerman video reenactment, GZ says #TrayvonMartin was standing in grass. BDLR: "Boy, that's a crime." #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:44:20 PM
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
BDLR tells jury - Why did #ZimmermanOn9 lie?  Because he didn't want the police to know that he was following an innocent 17 yr old boy.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:45:08 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Jurors continue watching #GeorgeZimmerman's video reenactment, occasional interruptions by BDLR to point things out. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:47:01 PM
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BDLR to jurors as they watch video: "See if that all makes sense what he's describing." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR notes sprinker box in video, asks "could that have caused some of the injury?" #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:47:59 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 49s
@LadyDameJT Tomorrow.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman says he didn't know shot hit #TrayvonMartin, "but then he had to push him off of him, does that make sense?"


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 03:48:21 PM
The prosecutor's style is not effective, IMO. 

And I'm afraid it isn't getting any better.  JMO
::rhino::

I am at a loss as to the fact that the prosecution thought this would be effective. Its disjointed, back, forth, and not proving beyond a reasonable doubt anything. Geez, just got a look of TM's dad and he looked like he was about to fall asleep.

The States rebuttal closing better be much better tomorrow.

Wow, he just used the "MF" word. Really?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:50:44 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
BDLR tell jury: #ZimmermanOn9 wasn't sure if he shot him, but yet had to push #Trayvon Martin off of him.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
BDLR is continuing to show the jury the recorded #ZimmermanOn9 police statement.  Telling them to pay attention to where GZ says gun is.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:51:27 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Video shows #GeorgeZimmerman wasn't as out of shape as trainer testified: "He's pretty fit there." #ZimmermanTrial #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Jurors are see part of another #GeorgeZimmerman interview, BDLR says GZ uses "police jargon" to try to impress cops. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:55:06 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Jurors watch video where cops challenge GZ on why he got out of his vehicle if he was afraid of TM. #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:55:27 PM
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
In recorded #ZimmermanOn9 statement, GZ says he did not ask #TravyonMartin what he was doing the night of the incident.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:56:03 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: In interviews, cops "catch him in a lie, and then he explains it away." #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
BDLR continues to show jury a slideshow representing the state's argument that what #ZimmermanOn9 said were mistruths.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Screengrab: Example of the slides jurors are being shown. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/NM1KIh6brI (http://pic.twitter.com/NM1KIh6brI)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355415726821085184/photo/1
(http://i.imgur.com/R2IW8wp.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:01:08 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 37s
#GeorgeZimmerman interview: "I feel like it was all God's plan." BDLR: "I don't know that I need to comment about that, speaks for itself."

 Stewart Moore ‏@StewartMoore 3m
BR: I'm not following my daughter when I'm scared something is going to happen, I just go in same direction she is
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR skips around the courtroom after "skipping" portion of interview plays. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Jurors are now watching #GeorgeZimmerman's Sean Hannity interview, where GZ says #TrayvonMartin "skipping... wasn't running out of fear."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:01:36 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
BDLR showed the jury a portion of the Hannity interview. The state's point - in this #ZimmermanOn9 claims #TrayvonMartin wasn't running.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
BDLR is asking the jury - where is the blood on #TrayvonMartin's hands? Still showing parts of the Hannity #ZimmermanOn9 interview.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:04:41 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Ryan Hughes - WFTV ‏@RHughesWFTV  6m 
NOW: Prosecutor claims #GeorgeZimmerman said "he's skipping away. La...la...la," as he skips through #Sanford courtroom. #ZIMMERMANon9.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:05:39 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Stewart Moore ‏@StewartMoore 42s
BR: wants to make TM a criminal. Couldn't find address. Tried to mislead police. If he's not doing any wrong, why lie about it
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 40s
@Cosmickitten2 Life sentence in Florida means your whole life.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@Jb42277Bradley Nope, @OrlandoSentinel.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: In straddling  position #GeorgeZimmerman describes "how does he get the gun out?... The truth does not lie." #TrayvonMartin
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:06:24 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
While BDLR is 'straddling' the dummy, he is asking the jury - how does #TravyonMartin get the gun?  Not possible. #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
BDLR is going for the dummy!  He is demonstrating the straddling position - knees on the armpits.  #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:07:03 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman says #TrayvonMartin bashed, smothered, punched, went for gun, etc. "How many arms did he need?" #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:09:01 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Jurors in back row stood when BDLR demonstrated w/doll, took notes during Hannity interview playback. #Zimmermanon9 @RHughesWFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:10:54 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Screengrab: Another slide. BDLR: If so many blows, "how is he alive?" #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/Qw7zDV5KCg (http://pic.twitter.com/Qw7zDV5KCg)

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Is the defense supposed to do their closing argument today after this at such a late hour?

I think that O'Mara said they would take 3 hrs ... that would take it after 7-7:30 pm.

Some one better get the jury some Red Bull


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:12:34 PM
Is the defense supposed to do their closing argument today after this at such a late hour?

I think that O'Mara said they would take 3 hrs ... that would take it after 7-7:30 pm.

Some one better get the jury some Red Bull

Possibly part of the strategy of the prosecution.  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:13:39 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: If jury finds guilt beyond reasonable doubt, "it should be for the highest offense that's been proven." #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Jurors see slides listing elements of 2nd-degree murder charge. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
BDLR: "Why is he having to lie about the whole thing, if he wasn't doing anything wrong and following this victim?" #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 11, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
Is the defense supposed to do their closing argument today after this at such a late hour?

I think that O'Mara said they would take 3 hrs ... that would take it after 7-7:30 pm.

Some one better get the jury some Red Bull

Closing arguments set to begin in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 2013


Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda will give closing arguments Thursday at 1 p.m. ET, and O’Mara will give closing arguments for the defense on Friday morning. Judge Debra Nelson said the case could be sent to the all-female jury as early as Friday

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:14:28 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Screengrab: Another slide, titled "weighing the evidence." #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/mERFc2HJQa (http://pic.twitter.com/mERFc2HJQa)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
Is the defense supposed to do their closing argument today after this at such a late hour?

I think that O'Mara said they would take 3 hrs ... that would take it after 7-7:30 pm.

Some one better get the jury some Red Bull

Possibly part of the strategy of the prosecution.  JMHO

Well I actually think that they would want the night to rebuttal the Defense closing argument. I cant see how the judge is going to make them sit thru another 3 hrs.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 04:16:51 PM
Is the defense supposed to do their closing argument today after this at such a late hour?

I think that O'Mara said they would take 3 hrs ... that would take it after 7-7:30 pm.

Some one better get the jury some Red Bull

Closing arguments set to begin in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 2013


Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda will give closing arguments Thursday at 1 p.m. ET, and O’Mara will give closing arguments for the defense on Friday morning. Judge Debra Nelson said the case could be sent to the all-female jury as early as Friday

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/

Thanks ... That is huge for the Defense. That's what they wanted the other day and the judge said no. Now the State cannot prepare over night for the rebuttal closing. HUGE MISTAKE FOR PROSECUTION.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:17:47 PM
Is the defense supposed to do their closing argument today after this at such a late hour?

I think that O'Mara said they would take 3 hrs ... that would take it after 7-7:30 pm.

Some one better get the jury some Red Bull

Possibly part of the strategy of the prosecution.  JMHO

Defense will give its closing Friday morning.


Well I actually think that they would want the night to rebuttal the Defense closing argument. I cant see how the judge is going to make them sit thru another 3 hrs.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
Repost to include photo.

July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Screengrab: Another slide, titled "weighing the evidence." #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/mERFc2HJQa (http://pic.twitter.com/mERFc2HJQa)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355419455687360512/photo/1

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:20:05 PM
Is the defense supposed to do their closing argument today after this at such a late hour?

I think that O'Mara said they would take 3 hrs ... that would take it after 7-7:30 pm.

Some one better get the jury some Red Bull

Possibly part of the strategy of the prosecution.  JMHO

Defense will give its closing Friday morning.


Well I actually think that they would want the night to rebuttal the Defense closing argument. I cant see how the judge is going to make them sit thru another 3 hrs.

Ooops...My reply is within your comments. ^^^
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Screengrab: Another slide, says "What if" doesn't = reasonable doubt. #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/0vAf0geOyl (http://pic.twitter.com/0vAf0geOyl)

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 04:21:08 PM
Quote
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros


Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS  

West notes #GeorgeZimmerman's name is mispelled on his copy of verdict form. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
OOps.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:22:59 PM
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Court in recess for the evening. Trial resumes 8:30 a.m., with defense's closing. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
West notes #GeorgeZimmerman's name is mispelled on his copy of verdict form. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Judge Nelson: Court will resume 8:30 a.m. tomorrow. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
BDLR done, jurors are being dismissed. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
BDLR: #TrayvonMartin's parents "can't take any more photos and that's true because of the actions of one person," #GeorgeZimmerman.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
BDLR: "I ask you to come back with a verdict that speaks the truth, a verdict that is just." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Another slide, juxtaposes #GeorgeZimmerman's gun with #TrayvonMartin's Arizona drink. #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/6f2lBP70T4 (http://pic.twitter.com/6f2lBP70T4)

 bob frier ‏@bfrier 8m
Preemptive strike on Defense closing? BDLR - we don't have a big fancy animation of what happened.  #fox35 @TennisLaw @DonellAyalaEsq
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
BDLR: Injuries not needed for self-defense, "but why exaggerate them, unless he's lying about the whole thing?" #ZimmermanTrial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  3m 
Jury dismissed for the day and will return at 8:30am to hear defense's rebuttal. #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
BDLR - the only photographs left of #TrayvonMartin are this Medical Examiner autopsy photos. #ZimmermanOn9

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  5m 
de la Rionda as he wraps closing: "I ask you to come back with a verdict that speaks the truth, a verdict that is just." #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
BDLR is showing a slide titled "What If ... ?" #ZimmermanOn9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:26:59 PM
Repost:  This tweet with pic was in middle of tweet batch,  &  I wanted to get the tweets posted, so came back for photo.   ::MonkeyWink::

July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Another slide, juxtaposes #GeorgeZimmerman's gun with #TrayvonMartin's Arizona drink. #ZimmermanTrial pic.twitter.com/6f2lBP70T4 (http://pic.twitter.com/6f2lBP70T4)

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/355420452056879104/photo/1

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Sister on July 11, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
The prosecutor's style is not effective, IMO. 

And I'm afraid it isn't getting any better.  JMO
::rhino::

I am at a loss as to the fact that the prosecution thought this would be effective. Its disjointed, back, forth, and not proving beyond a reasonable doubt anything. Geez, just got a look of TM's dad and he looked like he was about to fall asleep.

The States rebuttal closing better be much better tomorrow.

Wow, he just used the "MF" word. Really?

IMO it didn't get better.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:30:46 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  2m 
UPDATE: Prosecution wraps up #Zimmermantrial closing arguments; defense to go Friday: http://at.wftv.com/154atLI  #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:32:23 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@CmaherMaher Lol. Unfortunately no, but thanks for the compliment!

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@Cocoanilla Defense is next, then state will go again. I don't think they've said who's doing the state's rebuttal.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 04:33:33 PM
I wonder if John Guy can do the follow up closing tomorrow?  It might be a good idea for the prosecution. 

Everything BDLR outlined today fits for me but the presentation was lackluster.  Also, with the inability to prepare for the follow up tomorrow I think Guy is a little quicker on his feet than BDLR.

I bet Bernie is a great Grandpa, though.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: jamcakes on July 11, 2013, 04:33:36 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
BDLR is showing a slide titled "What If ... ?" #ZimmermanOn9


"What if" doesn't PROVE anything beyond a shadow of a doubt.  That was a lame closing argument.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 04:34:49 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
BDLR is showing a slide titled "What If ... ?" #ZimmermanOn9


"What if" doesn't PROVE anything beyond a shadow of a doubt.  That was a lame closing argument.

Ugh.  I agree.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Sister on July 11, 2013, 04:35:21 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
BDLR is showing a slide titled "What If ... ?" #ZimmermanOn9


"What if" doesn't PROVE anything beyond a shadow of a doubt.  That was a lame closing argument.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Amys Sister on July 11, 2013, 04:41:37 PM
Peace out ya'll. 

Even though my opinion doesn't jibe with most of you on this issue I have great respect for the posters and varying perspectives here. 

 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:48:52 PM


July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
FWIW: Here's standard jury instruction on second-degree murder. #ZimmermanTrial #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin http://twitdoc.com/2693


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 11, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
Is the defense supposed to do their closing argument today after this at such a late hour?

I think that O'Mara said they would take 3 hrs ... that would take it after 7-7:30 pm.

Some one better get the jury some Red Bull

Closing arguments set to begin in Zimmerman trial
Published July 11, 2013


Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda will give closing arguments Thursday at 1 p.m. ET, and O’Mara will give closing arguments for the defense on Friday morning. Judge Debra Nelson said the case could be sent to the all-female jury as early as Friday

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/11/closing-arguments-to-begin-in-zimmerman-trial/

Thanks ... That is huge for the Defense. That's what they wanted the other day and the judge said no. Now the State cannot prepare over night for the rebuttal closing. HUGE MISTAKE FOR PROSECUTION.

I contend that the Prosecution did a not too bad job of supporting a charge of Manslaughter ... a charge that was not an option until this morning ... a charge the Defence was not afforded an opportunity to defend throughout the trial ... a charge that has the ability to appease the Black community if GZ is found guilty.  What is wrong with this picture?

Janet

++++++

Zimmerman Jury Will Be Allowed to Consider Lesser Manslaughter Charge
Published: July 11, 2013


Manslaughter has a lower threshold for prosecutors to prove and is defined in Florida as the unlawful killing of a human being without malice — including the result of an accident or other act in which the person does not have the mental state to commit a murder.

Though Mr. Zimmerman could receive a sentence of life in prison if he is convicted of murder, the maximum penalty in Florida for manslaughter with a deadly weapon is 30 years.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/12/us/zimmerman-jury-will-be-allowed-to-consider-lesser-manslaughter-charge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0



 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:50:16 PM
July 11, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
However, some of the displays, like the timelines each side prepared, were admitted as evidence and will go back.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
No, they're demonstrative aids, not evidence. RT @cindysrq: @JeffWeinerOS Will these slides go into the jury room for deliberations?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
#ZimmermanTrial: State says 'assumptions' & 'profiling' led to #TrayvonMartin's death | Updated: http://bit.ly/1554c2z  #GeorgeZimmerman
 
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@lightgraphs You're welcome, thanks as always for following!

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@jozleeen Thanks! Glad you're finding the tweets helpful.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 11, 2013, 04:51:40 PM
Once this thread slows down a bit I'll LOCK it and have you all go to a new link  ::jeep3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:53:24 PM
Once this thread slows down a bit I'll LOCK it and have you all go to a new link  ::jeep3::

Thanks, Nut44x4!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: grace-land on July 11, 2013, 04:55:20 PM
Peace out ya'll. 

Even though my opinion doesn't jibe with most of you on this issue I have great respect for the posters and varying perspectives here. 

 ::monkeywine2::


Have a good evening, Amys Sister!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: Sister on July 11, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
Once this thread slows down a bit I'll LOCK it and have you all go to a new link  ::jeep3::

Thanks, Nut44x4!

::MonkeyJnBox::

I was speeding reading and thought you said we will have to go get a drink.
 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:57:49 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@fotodave They never finished with that, judge ruled he wasn't a proper rebuttal witness.
 
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@SlingTrebuchet The defense's timeline is online: http://bit.ly/145GhRh  I wasn't quick enough to get a screengrab of the states.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: Green Eyes on July 11, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
Once this thread slows down a bit I'll LOCK it and have you all go to a new link  ::jeep3::

Thanks, Nut44x4!

::MonkeyJnBox::

I was speeding reading and thought you said we will have to go get a drink.
 ::monkeywine2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Sister a must needed laugh for the day. Thank You


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 11, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
Once this thread slows down a bit I'll LOCK it and have you all go to a new link  ::jeep3::

Thanks Nut!  Ready anytime you are...  ::buzzbee2::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-
Post by: Red on July 11, 2013, 05:09:40 PM
Peace out ya'll. 

Even though my opinion doesn't jibe with most of you on this issue I have great respect for the posters and varying perspectives here. 

 ::monkeywine2::


Later Amys Sister  ... individuals can have differing opinions, I appreciate the respectful debate on this issue. Thanks All.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin #7 7/9/2013-7/11/13
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 11, 2013, 05:12:51 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/MODLOCK1.gif)

Move along to # 8

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14485.0