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Title: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 11, 2013, 05:18:28 PM
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9
Post by: klaasend on July 15, 2013, 11:44:40 PM
New - after the verdict thread.

FYI - tomorrow night don't miss the Dana Pretzer show with guests, Rita Cosby, Pat Brown and Robin Sax all analyzing the Zimmerman verdict along with Dana. 
9pm ET.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 16, 2013, 12:07:11 AM
Thanks klaas... I will be there and FYI... Ms Genteel did not rivet me !


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9
Post by: grace-land on July 16, 2013, 12:17:56 AM
Short video at the link

http://abcnews.go.com/US/zimmermans-parents-hiding-enormous-amount-death-threats-abc/story?id=19670456#.UeTHl74o7IU

Zimmerman's Parents in Hiding from 'Enormous Amount of Death Threats': ABC News Exclusive
July 15, 2013

George Zimmerman immediately went back into hiding after being acquitted of murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, his parents told Barbara Walters in an exclusive interview with ABC News, adding that they haven't seen him since he left the courthouse.

The Zimmermans said that because of "an enormous amount of death threats," they, too, have remained in hiding and still don't feel safe enough to return to their home in Orlando, Fla.

Watch Barbara Walters' exclusive interview on "Nightline" tonight at 12:35 a.m. ET
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9
Post by: Red on July 16, 2013, 01:01:04 AM
Thanks klaas... I will be there and FYI... Ms Genteel did not rivet me !

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Yea, she does many things, riveting would never be a word I would use to describe her.

You know the other thing that kills me with this heinous prosecution as I side with them 99% of the time? The fact that I have to listen to Defense atty Jose Baez as a SME like he is the voice of reason.

The prosecutors in the GZ case should take some lessons for Jeff Ashton and  Linda Drane Burdick.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 16, 2013, 01:03:08 AM
Thanks klaas... I will be there and FYI... Ms Genteel did not rivet me !

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Yea, she does many things, riveting would never be a word I would use to describe her.

You know the other thing that kills me with this heinous prosecution as I side with them 99% of the time? The fact that I have to listen to Defense atty Jose Baez as a SME like he is the voice of reason.

The prosecutors in the GZ case should take some lessons for Jeff Ashton and  Linda Drane Burdick.


Agreed... who would have ever thought we would think anything Jose had to say was logical???
I am still over here fuming about Ms Cory's remark tonight...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9
Post by: Red on July 16, 2013, 01:21:46 AM
Thanks klaas... I will be there and FYI... Ms Genteel did not rivet me !

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Yea, she does many things, riveting would never be a word I would use to describe her.

You know the other thing that kills me with this heinous prosecution as I side with them 99% of the time? The fact that I have to listen to Defense atty Jose Baez as a SME like he is the voice of reason.

The prosecutors in the GZ case should take some lessons for Jeff Ashton and  Linda Drane Burdick.


Agreed... who would have ever thought we would think anything Jose had to say was logical???
I am still over here fuming about Ms Cory's remark tonight...

Yup, she is a disgrace ... Don West was correct when he commented after the verdict was given, the prosecution was a disgrace.

Florida State Attorney Angela Corey in Interview with CNN/HLN Following Jury “Not Guilty” Verdict Calls George Zimmerman … ‘Murderer’
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/15/florida-state-attorney-angela-corey-in-interview-with-cnn-following-jury-not-guilty-verdict-calls-george-zimmerman-murderer/

Quote
This goes beyond sour grapes, this is an out of control Florida State attorney who should probably be disbarred.

In an interview with  HLN’s Vinnie Politan, prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda and Florida State attorney Angela Corey was asked to describe George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin in one word. Even after a jury of six woman from Seminole county deliberated for 16 1/2 hours and came back with a “NOT GUILTY” verdict as they dismissed that George Zimmerman had committed second degree murder or manslaughter.  Florida State Attorney Angela Corey describe George Zimmerman in one word … murderer. Really? So much for the for those who are supposed to be responsible officers of the court respecting the verdict of the jury. It is extremely sad that Angela Corey and Bernie de la Rionda have turned their back on Florida law, what they are supposed to uphold and represent and they act like spoiled babies when they do not get the verdict they want. Their answer is to question and basically smear the integrity of the jury and the decision they made. A note to the prosecution, next time prove your case or charge it with something you could convict on. Better yet, send it to a grand jury, that is what they are there for.

How does this woman still have a job? And for those of you who have the opinion that Zimmerman was guilty and should have been charged with something,  Angela Corey is a danger to you as well. What happens when the shoes on the other foot and you are on her wrong side? If she is willing to present murder two charges against some one who should never have been charged, whatcha gunna do when she comes for you?
::snipping3::

She is on the face saving tour. I hope that O'Mara and West get her disbarred with what she did with withholding evidence from the Defense.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 16, 2013, 06:02:34 AM
I've tried so hard to stay out of commenting on this case because I just hate everything about it. I've reached my limit at this point, because of the reaction to the verdict, if nothing else.

I don't think anybody watching the trial could reconcile this reaction to the actual case. I wish, I wish, I wish that GZ would have simply stayed in the car, but I have to acknowledge that he had a right not to do that. I hate that TM was killed and know that through all the steps that happened, there were many chances to avoid the shooting. GZ getting out of the car was the first missed opportunity, IMO, but after that, Trayvon had chances to avoid it as well. I know that according to the law, the only verdict that could be reached was reached by this jury.

If there is a need to have a national conversation about race relations in this country, I wish it could be led by those looking to unite people instead of those whose relevancy is dependent upon division. They are leading us backward, not ahead.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 16, 2013, 07:46:02 AM
I've tried so hard to stay out of commenting on this case because I just hate everything about it. I've reached my limit at this point, because of the reaction to the verdict, if nothing else.

I don't think anybody watching the trial could reconcile this reaction to the actual case. I wish, I wish, I wish that GZ would have simply stayed in the car, but I have to acknowledge that he had a right not to do that. I hate that TM was killed and know that through all the steps that happened, there were many chances to avoid the shooting. GZ getting out of the car was the first missed opportunity, IMO, but after that, Trayvon had chances to avoid it as well. I know that according to the law, the only verdict that could be reached was reached by this jury.

If there is a need to have a national conversation about race relations in this country, I wish it could be led by those looking to unite people instead of those whose relevancy is dependent upon division. They are leading us backward, not ahead.


I totally agree CBB....it appears to me that the very ones who are crying about this case being racial are the ones who have led it in that direction and continue to do so.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 08:38:59 AM
7/16/13     Zimmerman Juror Decides Not To Write Book About Trial
 


“I realize it was necessary for our jury to be sequestered in order to protest our verdict from unfair outside influence, but that isolation shielded me from the depth of pain that exists among the general public over every aspect of this case. The potential book was always intended to be a respectful observation of the trial from my and my husband’s perspectives solely and it was to be an observation that our ‘system’ of justice can get so complicated that it creates a conflict with our ‘spirit’ of justice.

Now that I am returned to my family and to society in general, I have realized that the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before I was called to sit on this jury.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/zimmerman-juror-decides-not-to-write-a-book


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 16, 2013, 08:41:37 AM
If George was such a racist person, wouldn't the prosecution have been able to produce at least 1 witness who heard George say something racist about any race? Just 1 in his whole lifetime? Really?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 16, 2013, 08:42:54 AM
7/16/13     Zimmerman Juror Decides Not To Write Book About Trial
 


“I realize it was necessary for our jury to be sequestered in order to protest our verdict from unfair outside influence, but that isolation shielded me from the depth of pain that exists among the general public over every aspect of this case. The potential book was always intended to be a respectful observation of the trial from my and my husband’s perspectives solely and it was to be an observation that our ‘system’ of justice can get so complicated that it creates a conflict with our ‘spirit’ of justice.

Now that I am returned to my family and to society in general, I have realized that the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before I was called to sit on this jury.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/zimmerman-juror-decides-not-to-write-a-book


Classy...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 16, 2013, 08:59:39 AM
I've tried so hard to stay out of commenting on this case because I just hate everything about it. I've reached my limit at this point, because of the reaction to the verdict, if nothing else.

I don't think anybody watching the trial could reconcile this reaction to the actual case. I wish, I wish, I wish that GZ would have simply stayed in the car, but I have to acknowledge that he had a right not to do that. I hate that TM was killed and know that through all the steps that happened, there were many chances to avoid the shooting. GZ getting out of the car was the first missed opportunity, IMO, but after that, Trayvon had chances to avoid it as well. I know that according to the law, the only verdict that could be reached was reached by this jury.

If there is a need to have a national conversation about race relations in this country, I wish it could be led by those looking to unite people instead of those whose relevancy is dependent upon division. They are leading us backward, not ahead.


I totally agree CBB....it appears to me that the very ones who are crying about this case being racial are the ones who have led it in that direction and continue to do so.

I agree with both of you. Why are the two sides at odds. Such things don't just happen, they are purposely created.  I have seen a completely troubling trend since this administration has taken office ... race relations have become worse because the leaders are making it that way. Sadly, the media has given people like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson power to promote irresponsible race baiting. Lets face it, they would have no job if "everyone just got along". So why would they make that happen? This is what happens when you make a criminal case political and interject race.

Before this case had anyone ever heard of a "white" Hispanic?

When a DOJ focuses on GZ and does not prosecute the Black Panthers for obviously taking part in voter intimidation, we have a problem. When Prez. Obama says the police acted stupidly with regards to the arrest in Cambridge, MA in an incident that he knew nothing about but still jumped into the racial issue. When the Prez interjects himself into the Zimmerman-Martin case and says if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon when he had no facts in the case. When a AG Holder and Obama and the prosecutors in Florida completely disregard the jury verdict and continue to enflame the situation, we have a problem.

Every one is so quick to call people who follow the law, a racist. Because nothing shuts down dialogue like using the "R" word.

Do I believe there is still racism in America, of course I do. Its on both sides. The sad reality is though that it is worse under Obama, because you cannot be against anything he does, or you are deemed a racist. This agenda was made even worse by a lap-dog media that was more concerned about forwarding a liberal agenda, than doing their job.

Are there mean spirited people out there, yes. Is there racism, yes. But this case and Zimmerman is not it. His past and his dealings with other says he is not and the first FBI investigation came to the same conclusion. Isn't it ironic, or is it just sad, that the very people who think that Zimmerman is some card carrying KKK member and just wanted to kill a black man are the very one's acting in a violent and hateful manner?

There is a reason why justice is supposed to be blind. What is very sad is that right now we have people like Al Sharpton who are planning protests that will end in riots against Zimmerman who want a Kangaroo court to find him guilty when he is not guilty no matter what and at all cost. Isn't this exactly what blacks and real Civil rights leaders have fought against for year, having their clients rail-roaded?

We do need to bring people together but it will never be easy when such powers out there are against that ever happening. Race-baiting is a cottage industry. Just like many have said that Zimmerman's ultimate judge will be when he is before God ... I would say the same to the hate merchants out there. You to are going to one day going to have to defend your actions to God Almighty.

I can only hope that one day race relations get better, but it will only happen once Obama and his ilk or out of office. These individuals have made disagreeing with political policy, racism to shut down discussion.

Sorry, but I live by the belief that it is about the content of one's character, not the color of one's skin. Too bad our influential leaders did not feel the same.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 16, 2013, 09:06:38 AM
I've tried so hard to stay out of commenting on this case because I just hate everything about it. I've reached my limit at this point, because of the reaction to the verdict, if nothing else.

I don't think anybody watching the trial could reconcile this reaction to the actual case. I wish, I wish, I wish that GZ would have simply stayed in the car, but I have to acknowledge that he had a right not to do that. I hate that TM was killed and know that through all the steps that happened, there were many chances to avoid the shooting. GZ getting out of the car was the first missed opportunity, IMO, but after that, Trayvon had chances to avoid it as well. I know that according to the law, the only verdict that could be reached was reached by this jury.

If there is a need to have a national conversation about race relations in this country, I wish it could be led by those looking to unite people instead of those whose relevancy is dependent upon division. They are leading us backward, not ahead.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 16, 2013, 09:27:55 AM
Red..I wish I could re copy your whole post to every news venue and my face book page for all to read. Excellent, excellent post.
It is so frustrating to try to reason with people about Obama and his division.and the you are racist comments always come into it.
Far from racism, just common sense.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 16, 2013, 10:18:56 AM
I've tried so hard to stay out of commenting on this case because I just hate everything about it. I've reached my limit at this point, because of the reaction to the verdict, if nothing else.

I don't think anybody watching the trial could reconcile this reaction to the actual case. I wish, I wish, I wish that GZ would have simply stayed in the car, but I have to acknowledge that he had a right not to do that. I hate that TM was killed and know that through all the steps that happened, there were many chances to avoid the shooting. GZ getting out of the car was the first missed opportunity, IMO, but after that, Trayvon had chances to avoid it as well. I know that according to the law, the only verdict that could be reached was reached by this jury.

If there is a need to have a national conversation about race relations in this country, I wish it could be led by those looking to unite people instead of those whose relevancy is dependent upon division. They are leading us backward, not ahead.


I totally agree CBB....it appears to me that the very ones who are crying about this case being racial are the ones who have led it in that direction and continue to do so.

I agree with both of you. Why are the two sides at odds. Such things don't just happen, they are purposely created.  I have seen a completely troubling trend since this administration has taken office ... race relations have become worse because the leaders are making it that way. Sadly, the media has given people like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson power to promote irresponsible race baiting. Lets face it, they would have no job if "everyone just got along". So why would they make that happen? This is what happens when you make a criminal case political and interject race.

Before this case had anyone ever heard of a "white" Hispanic?

When a DOJ focuses on GZ and does not prosecute the Black Panthers for obviously taking part in voter intimidation, we have a problem. When Prez. Obama says the police acted stupidly with regards to the arrest in Cambridge, MA in an incident that he knew nothing about but still jumped into the racial issue. When the Prez interjects himself into the Zimmerman-Martin case and says if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon when he had no facts in the case. When a AG Holder and Obama and the prosecutors in Florida completely disregard the jury verdict and continue to enflame the situation, we have a problem.

Every one is so quick to call people who follow the law, a racist. Because nothing shuts down dialogue like using the "R" word.

Do I believe there is still racism in America, of course I do. Its on both sides. The sad reality is though that it is worse under Obama, because you cannot be against anything he does, or you are deemed a racist. This agenda was made even worse by a lap-dog media that was more concerned about forwarding a liberal agenda, than doing their job.

Are there mean spirited people out there, yes. Is there racism, yes. But this case and Zimmerman is not it. His past and his dealings with other says he is not and the first FBI investigation came to the same conclusion. Isn't it ironic, or is it just sad, that the very people who think that Zimmerman is some card carrying KKK member and just wanted to kill a black man are the very one's acting in a violent and hateful manner?

There is a reason why justice is supposed to be blind. What is very sad is that right now we have people like Al Sharpton who are planning protests that will end in riots against Zimmerman who want a Kangaroo court to find him guilty when he is not guilty no matter what and at all cost. Isn't this exactly what blacks and real Civil rights leaders have fought against for year, having their clients rail-roaded?

We do need to bring people together but it will never be easy when such powers out there are against that ever happening. Race-baiting is a cottage industry. Just like many have said that Zimmerman's ultimate judge will be when he is before God ... I would say the same to the hate merchants out there. You to are going to one day going to have to defend your actions to God Almighty.

I can only hope that one day race relations get better, but it will only happen once Obama and his ilk or out of office. These individuals have made disagreeing with political policy, racism to shut down discussion.

Sorry, but I live by the belief that it is about the content of one's character, not the color of one's skin. Too bad our influential leaders did not feel the same.

That's a Heck of a post, Red. I'm quoting it hoping everyone will read it twice.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 16, 2013, 10:26:44 AM
Where is a like button when you need one lol.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 10:35:09 AM
  Stevie Wonder boycotts Florida following George Zimmerman verdict
 


Florida fans of Stevie Wonder who want to see the legend sing are going to have to go on a road trip for the near future. During a performance in Quebec City, Canada, on Sunday, the Grammy-winning performer spoke out about the recent acquittal of George Zimmerman and announced he would boycott the state.

"I decided today that until the 'Stand Your Ground' law is abolished in Florida, I will never perform there again," he told the audience. "As a matter of fact, wherever I find that law exists, I will not perform in that state or in that part of the world."


http://www.nbcnews.com/entertainment/stevie-wonder-boycotts-florida-following-george-zimmerman-verdict-6C10645827


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: jamcakes on July 16, 2013, 10:49:05 AM
  Stevie Wonder boycotts Florida following George Zimmerman verdict
 


Florida fans of Stevie Wonder who want to see the legend sing are going to have to go on a road trip for the near future. During a performance in Quebec City, Canada, on Sunday, the Grammy-winning performer spoke out about the recent acquittal of George Zimmerman and announced he would boycott the state.

"I decided today that until the 'Stand Your Ground' law is abolished in Florida, I will never perform there again," he told the audience. "As a matter of fact, wherever I find that law exists, I will not perform in that state or in that part of the world."


http://www.nbcnews.com/entertainment/stevie-wonder-boycotts-florida-following-george-zimmerman-verdict-6C10645827

I guess he won't be singing much in the US anymore, b/c many states have adopted portions of the SYG laws.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 16, 2013, 11:04:49 AM
  Stevie Wonder boycotts Florida following George Zimmerman verdict
 


Florida fans of Stevie Wonder who want to see the legend sing are going to have to go on a road trip for the near future. During a performance in Quebec City, Canada, on Sunday, the Grammy-winning performer spoke out about the recent acquittal of George Zimmerman and announced he would boycott the state.

"I decided today that until the 'Stand Your Ground' law is abolished in Florida, I will never perform there again," he told the audience. "As a matter of fact, wherever I find that law exists, I will not perform in that state or in that part of the world."


http://www.nbcnews.com/entertainment/stevie-wonder-boycotts-florida-following-george-zimmerman-verdict-6C10645827


Um...so? How many have gone to a Stevie wonder concert in recent years?  Not sure what if my impact this will make on the economy...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 16, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
 I would be curious to know how many of
These celebrities who are voicing such strong
Opinions actually followed this entire case
From start to finish.
And I dont mean through MSM , I mean
Actually listened to all the testimony
And heard all the evidence ,
Quite sure not many .. If any at all.

Ticket sales must be down for Mr. Wonder ....
Just saying ...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 16, 2013, 11:18:15 AM
I would be curious to know how many of
These celebrities who are voicing such strong
Opinions actually followed this entire case
From start to finish.
And I dont mean through MSM , I mean
Actually listened to all the testimony
And heard all the evidence ,
Quite sure not many .. If any at all.

Ticket sales must be down for Mr. Wonder ....
Just saying ...

Agree.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 16, 2013, 11:43:10 AM
This is Marley Lion:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/marley-lion_zpsb9af64d1.jpg)

Marley Lion was a 17 year old, unarmed white male shot and killed by a 30 yr old black male on 6/16/12 in Charleston, SC.
http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/TheBattery/archives/2012/07/31/four-arrested-in-marley-lion-murder

 The story never made it past the local news. No celebrities tweeted about it. Our President didn't say that if he had a son, he would have loved him just as Marley's parents did. Eric Holder wasn't conducting an investigation to determine if a hate crime had been committed. Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson didn't march in the streets on Marley's behalf. National news media didn't devote days and days to the tragedy.
No relationships between black and white friends were strained around an awkward topic. There were no "sides" to be picked. There was just right and wrong and it applied to all in a commonality founded on good and evil, not black and white. The opportunity to grieve together, to share sadness together, to condemn violence together, to care together was not robbed by those in public positions with a podium.

The push to react to this verdict is based on ignorance of this case, and IMO, a need by a few to validate themselves. I'm appalled at the price to the country they are willing to pay for that validation. I'm appalled at those who allow themselves to be persuaded.







Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 16, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
This is Marley Lion:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/marley-lion_zpsb9af64d1.jpg)

Marley Lion was a 17 year old, unarmed white male shot and killed by a 30 yr old black male on 6/16/12 in Charleston, SC.
http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/TheBattery/archives/2012/07/31/four-arrested-in-marley-lion-murder

 The story never made it past the local news. No celebrities tweeted about it. Our President didn't say that if he had a son, he would have loved him just as Marley's parents did. Eric Holder wasn't conducting an investigation to determine if a hate crime had been committed. Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson didn't march in the streets on Marley's behalf. National news media didn't devote days and days to the tragedy.
No relationships between black and white friends were strained around an awkward topic. There were no "sides" to be picked. There was just right and wrong and it applied to all in a commonality founded on good and evil, not black and white. The opportunity to grieve together, to share sadness together, to condemn violence together, to care together was not robbed by those in public positions with a podium.

The push to react to this verdict is based on ignorance of this case, and IMO, a need by a few to validate themselves. I'm appalled at the price to the country they are willing to pay for that validation. I'm appalled at those who allow themselves to be persuaded.








Well said. Sad...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 16, 2013, 12:10:19 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/15/pmt.01.html

PIERS MORGAN LIVE

Interview with Rachel Jeantel
Aired July 15, 2013 - 21:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

PIERS MORGAN, CNN HOST: This is PIERS MORGAN LIVE. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. I also want to welcome our studio audience. And of course all of you at home.

Tonight a PIERS MORGAN LIVE special, "Not Guilty, The Zimmerman Verdict." It's the case that America is talking about. And I want to hear from you, tweet us @piersmorganlive or @piersmorgan.

Tonight my exclusive interview with the star witness in the case, Rachel Jeantel, speaking out for the first time since she took the stand
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 16, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
Charts at the link.   Pew Research Center, July 11-14, 2013.

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2013/07/16/surprise-despite-the-media-focus-most-americans-were-not-very-interested-in-the-zimmerman-trial/

Surprise! Despite the media focus, most Americans were not very interested in the Zimmerman trial!
Posted on July 16, 2013 at 9:28

 ::snipping3::
The charts above are explained HERE:

The final days of the trial of George Zimmerman, which concluded July 13 with a verdict of not guilty, attracted relatively modest public interest overall. In a weekend survey, 26% say they were following news about the trial very closely.

This is lower than interest in the initial controversy over Trayvon Martin’s shooting when it erupted last year. In March 2012, 35% said they followed news about Martin’s shooting very closely.

However, the story has consistently attracted far more interest among blacks than whites – and that remained the case in the trial’s final days. Blacks are more than twice as likely as whites to say they tracked news about the Zimmerman trial very closely (56% vs. 20%).

Moreover, fully 67% of blacks say they watched at least some live coverage of the Zimmerman trial, compared with 38% of whites. About one-in-five blacks (21%) say they watched “almost all’’ of the trial coverage; just 5% of whites reported watching almost all of it…

Blacks have consistently expressed more interest than whites in Trayvon Martin’s shooting and the prosecution and trial of George Zimmerman. Currently 56% of blacks and just 20% of whites say they followed news about the trial very closely.

Racial differences in interest about Martin’s shooting and its aftermath are wider than in interest in the police beating of Rodney King in March 1991, as well as the acquittal of the officers and subsequent riots in May 1992. The racial gap in interest in Martin/Zimmerman news also is wider than in O.J. Simpson’s arrest in June 1994 and his trial a year later.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on July 16, 2013, 03:19:33 PM

Hello Monkeys,


http://drudgereport.com/

The sentence in red is amusing on Drudges site :) ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:06:53 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6h
#ZimmermanTrial juror drops plans to write book, agent says | http://bit.ly/12D4JtU  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:09:21 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-juror-b-37-book-20130716,0,2131246.story
George Zimmerman juror B-37 drops plans to write book, agent says
Woman says it is best to go 'away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life'
July 16, 2013

After she was dropped by her literary agent, a juror in the George Zimmerman trial has decided against writing a book on the high-profile case, she said in a statement, citing the "depth of pain" many in the public associate with it.

The woman known publicly only as B-37, her jury selection designation, now says that serving in sequestration as a juror "shielded me from the depth of pain that exists among the general public over every aspect of this case."

"The potential book was always intended to be a respectful observation of the trial from my and my husband's perspectives solely and it was to be an observation that our 'system' of justice can get so complicated that it creates a conflict with our 'spirit' of justice," she said. "Now that I am returned to my family and to society in general, I have realized that the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before I was called to sit on this jury."
B-37 was the first Zimmerman juror to speak publicly about the trial, granting an interview to CNN's Anderson Cooper which aired Monday evening.

The interview came two days after B-37 and five other jurors acquitted Zimmerman in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. The verdict was a shock to many, and sparked protests across the country. When news of B-37's plans to write a book broke Monday morning, many expressed outrage.


A Change.org petition was circulated, asking the agent who'd signed B-37, Sharlene Martin, to end her representation. Reaction in social media to the planned book was harsh.

Early Tuesday, a Twitter account apparently belonging to Martin posted a message indicating she'd decided to drop the project: "After careful consideration of the book project with Zimmerman #JurorB37, I have decided to rescind my offer of representation," the tweet said. Buzzfeed.com, quoting an email from the agent, reported a similar statement.

As of about 10 a.m. Tuesday morning, the petition had gathered more than 1,300 online signatures.

In her interview with Cooper on Monday, B-37 said that she believed Zimmerman was guilty of bad judgment, but not a manslaughter or murder, on the night of the Feb. 26, 2012, shooting in Sanford. She said she didn't view the case as a "racial thing."

Speaking in shadow, the woman said Zimmerman should not have gotten out of his vehicle after reporting Trayvon to police as suspicious, but she thought Zimmerman was afraid for his life during his fight with the teen later and had a right to protect himself.
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Video at Link


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:11:27 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 7h
George Zimmerman's parents: We pray for Trayvon http://thesent.nl/190sz6O
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-parents-pray-for-trayvon-20130715,0,4343088.post
George Zimmerman's parents: We pray for Trayvon
By Hal Boedeker
Staff writer
6:44 p.m. EDT, July 15, 2013


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:15:38 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 8h
Protests, reactions to George Zimmerman verdict spread across country http://thesent.nl/12CRGbX
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-verdict-protests-20130716,0,5481806.story
Gov. Scott urged to address polarization caused by George Zimmerman verdict as students march
July 16, 2013

Story and video at link.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 04:17:07 PM
I noticed that Jabba thhe Jeantel told Morgan that she knew Martin better than anyone else.
3 weeks.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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(opened conversation)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6h
#ZimmermanTrial juror drops plans to write book, agent says | http://bit.ly/12D4JtU  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 
 Sparty's Babe ‏@savvy_esq 6h
@JeffWeinerOS Come on, Jeff...you know good and well she was dropped. http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/zimmerman-juror-decides-not-to-write-a-book …

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6h
@savvy_esq I didn't know that, thanks for the link. The story I tweeted a link to wasn't mine, it's a Reuter's wire service story.
 6:55 AM - 16 Jul 13 · Details

 Sparty's Babe ‏@savvy_esq 6h
@JeffWeinerOS yes, and @SharleneMartin also tweeted it :)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5h
@savvy_esq Thanks!
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Thoughts Of Truth ‏@True_Thoughts 4h
@JeffWeinerOS Is this true re: GEorge Zimmerman filing a civil law suit?  http://nationalreport.net/george-zimmerman-files-civil-suit-against-trayvon-martins-parents-for-being-brutally-attacked-by-their-juvenile-son/ …

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
@True_Thoughts Clerk has no info on a suit. We're continuing to check, but looks like it's not true.
9:02 AM - 16 Jul 13 · Details

 Thoughts Of Truth ‏@True_Thoughts 4h
@JeffWeinerOS Thank you Jeff. I checked the country and couldn't find anything about a civil lawsuit either.  @RealOldHouswife


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
This is the reason cars have gas pedals;

[Removed at request]


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 04:24:48 PM
And then these people protesting the government will march back to their government-funded homes in time to have their government-funded dinner in front of the TV they bought with their government welfare checks and call their friends on their government phones.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
From the above link in tweet I posted.  This doesn't seem to be confirmed at this point.   I'm finding just because there's an article with a link doesn't make it true...  ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMHO

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Thoughts Of Truth ‏@True_Thoughts 4h
@JeffWeinerOS Is this true re: GEorge Zimmerman filing a civil law suit?  http://nationalreport.net/george-zimmerman-files-civil-suit-against-trayvon-martins-parents-for-being-brutally-attacked-by-their-juvenile-son/ …

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
@True_Thoughts Clerk has no info on a suit. We're continuing to check, but looks like it's not true.
9:02 AM - 16 Jul 13 · Details

 Thoughts Of Truth ‏@True_Thoughts 4h
@JeffWeinerOS Thank you Jeff. I checked the country and couldn't find anything about a civil lawsuit either.  @RealOldHouswife


http://nationalreport.net/george-zimmerman-files-civil-suit-against-trayvon-martins-parents-for-being-brutally-attacked-by-their-juvenile-son/
George Zimmerman Files Civil Suit Against Trayvon Martin’s Parents
July 15, 2013

<National Report> THIS JUST IN… George Zimmerman filed a civil suit today just before 5PM EST at the Seminole County, Florida, Courthouse. The suit alleges the parents of Trayvon Martin, failed to control their minor-age son on the evening of February 26, 2012, when Martin repeatedly assaulted Zimmerman, placing him in imminent fear for his life and resulting in the death of Martin.

The civil action specifies that Zimmerman acted in self defense resulting in the case being ruled a justifiable homicide by a jury trial that ended on Saturday with a verdict of not guilty.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:26:20 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
Recent filing: #GeorgeZimmerman lawyer O'Mara set to be deposed 8/28 in lawsuit filed by GZ's former bodyguards, which alleges unpaid bills.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:29:28 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 56m
Protesters want Rick Scott to call special session on Trayvon Martin death http://thesent.nl/12DPwJa
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/political-pulse/sfl-protesters-want-rick-scott-to-call-special-session-on-trayvon-martin-death-20130716,0,112455.post
Protesters want Rick Scott to call special session on Trayvon Martin death
July 16 2013
TALLAHASSEE -- Roughly 60 protesters filled Gov. Rick Scott's office Tuesday morning demanding to meet with the governor and calling for a special session to address issues surrounding the Trayvon Martin case.

The group, comprised of members of Florida New Majority, League of Women Voters and Dream Defenders, have said they won't leave Scott's office until he agrees to meet with them in person. Scott is in New York for the day, but organizers say they will wait, even if that means staying all night.
 ::snipping3::
The group said they want Scott to call a special session to address racial profiling and the Stand Your Ground law


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:31:35 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57m
#Zimmerman #TrayvonMartin RT @OSTrayvonMartin: Follow along as we live-tweet Eric Holder's address at the .@NAACP convention in Orlando.

 David Manning ‏@fotodave 54m
@JeffWeinerOS Where are you? I'm on the riser.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 53m
@fotodave I'm not there. Kate Santich is covering it for us.
12:39 PM - 16 Jul 13 · Details

 David Manning ‏@fotodave 52m
@JeffWeinerOS ah cool. No worries

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57m
#Zimmerman #TrayvonMartin RT @OSTrayvonMartin: Follow along as we live-tweet Eric Holder's address at the .@NAACP convention in Orlando.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
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Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 1m
Watch live video of Attorney General Eric Holder as he addresses NAACP, follow live tweets from @OSTrayvonMartin | http://thesent.nl/14WYEIC
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:35:36 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
@memangrum @orlandosentinel http://www.naacplive.com/2013/index-live.html …

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Eric Holder has not approached the podium yet. Shaun Donovan, U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, speaking now.

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 1h
Protesters want Rick Scott to call special session on Trayvon Martin death http://thesent.nl/12DPwJa
 Retweeted by OSTrayvonMartin

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Follow along as we live-tweet Eric Holder's address at the .@NAACP convention in Orlando.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 6h
RT @tvguyhal: George #Zimmerman: Inept state, dispassionate jury in #TrayvonMartin shooting http://goo.gl/fb/8FG3W

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 6h
RT @cassiearmstrong: George #Zimmerman verdict: What you didn't see. http://thesent.nl/12D7awK  #TrayvonMartin

 Cassie Armstrong ‏@cassiearmstrong 6h
George Zimmerman verdict: What you didn't see. http://thesent.nl/12D7awK
 Retweeted by OSTrayvonMartin
 y
 Sybrina Fulton ‏@SybrinaFulton 6h
God is healing my heart this very moment. But as I watch so many people come together, he reminds me that we (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rld3f4
 Retweeted by OSTrayvonMartin

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 9h
Protests, reactions to George Zimmerman verdict spread across country http://thesent.nl/12CRGbX
 Retweeted by OSTrayvonMartin

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 8h
George Zimmerman's parents: We pray for Trayvon http://thesent.nl/190sz6O
 Retweeted by OSTrayvonMartin
 
 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 7h
#ZimmermanTrial juror drops plans to write book, agent says | http://bit.ly/12D4JtU  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:36:51 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin (https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin)

OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 4m
Holder recalls conversation with father about being a black man & interacting with police. "Since those days our country has gotten better."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 4m
Holder says he is personally concerned about case, notes that a case is already open with U.S. Justice Dept. and is investigating.

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 5m
Watch live video of Attorney General Eric Holder as he addresses NAACP, follow live tweets from @OSTrayvonMartin | http://thesent.nl/14WYEIC
 Retweeted by OSTrayvonMartin

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 5m
After giving thanks for the welcoming, Holder: "We are all mindful of the tragic and unnecessary shooting death of Trayvon Martin."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 8m
AG Eric Holder being introduced now.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 30m
U.S. Sec. of Health & Human Services references #TrayvonMartin while speaking about violence among youth, calls his death a tragedy.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
@MissRobin_NC Improving the housing market. Will tweet when Holder begins speaking.
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:37:44 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1m
Vigils, protests, demonstrations should open up debate, not incite violence, Holder says.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 2m
Trayvon's death led Holder to have a conversation with his 15-year-old son. "This is a conversation I hope will not have to be passed down."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:38:58 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 7m
Watch live video of Attorney General Eric Holder as he addresses NAACP, follow live tweets from @OSTrayvonMartin | http://thesent.nl/14WYEIC
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on July 16, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
  Stevie Wonder boycotts Florida following George Zimmerman verdict
 


Florida fans of Stevie Wonder who want to see the legend sing are going to have to go on a road trip for the near future. During a performance in Quebec City, Canada, on Sunday, the Grammy-winning performer spoke out about the recent acquittal of George Zimmerman and announced he would boycott the state.

"I decided today that until the 'Stand Your Ground' law is abolished in Florida, I will never perform there again," he told the audience. "As a matter of fact, wherever I find that law exists, I will not perform in that state or in that part of the world."


http://www.nbcnews.com/entertainment/stevie-wonder-boycotts-florida-following-george-zimmerman-verdict-6C10645827

Why didn't he boycott Florida after the Casey Anthony trial?

Just sayin? 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1m
Holder: It's time to look at self-defense laws. "These laws are trying to fix something that was never broken."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:41:43 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 13m
@JeffWeinerOS Can you confirm whether B37 was 1 of 2 jurors rejected by the State but empaneled by the judge per Defense Batson challenge?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@Only4RM No, the two state strikes Judge Nelson overruled were E-6 and B-76.
1:36 PM - 16 Jul 13 · Details

 Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 4m
@JeffWeinerOS Thanks. Appreciate it. E-6 and B-76 ended up as jurors or alts?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@Only4RM They were both jurors, not alternates.

 Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 2m
@JeffWeinerOS Sorry for bothering you but do you have notes on whether State has objections to B37? Was she considered after  Batson issues?

 Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 2m
@JeffWeinerOS Thx! Your coverage was invaluable throughout the trial.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 04:42:42 PM
Have any of these fn punk aholes come up with any positive changes to prevent this from happening in the future?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:42:58 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 3m
Holder: "We must stand our ground to ensure that our laws reduce violence."
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:52:41 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@Only4RM Neither side attempted to strike B-37. No objections from the state.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
@Only4RM They were both jurors, not alternates.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:53:37 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 4m
Holder: Congress must ensure that every american has equal access to the voting polls, "Right to vote is a guaranteed and sacred duty."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 6m
Holder talks about the right to vote, says he disagrees with Supreme Court's decision on Voting Rights Act last month.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 28m
@JeffWeinerOS Can you confirm whether B37 was 1 of 2 jurors rejected by the State but empaneled by the judge per Defense Batson challenge?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
@Only4RM No, the two state strikes Judge Nelson overruled were E-6 and B-76.

 Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 17m
@JeffWeinerOS Sorry for bothering you but do you have notes on whether State has objections to B37? Was she considered after  Batson issues?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
@Only4RM Neither side attempted to strike B-37. No objections from the state.
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 Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 7m
@JeffWeinerOS Wow! Rumors were she was Batson beneficiary so I don't trust the commentary. Did she in fact describe protests as "riots"?
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@Only4RM Yes, according to my notes and our stories, she called it "rioting."
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@JeffWeinerOS You are a gem! Thx so much. I don't see how the State didn't object to that! Sigh. One more q...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 4m
Holder ends his speech by asking .@NAACP members to honor their heroes, like Dr. King. Thanks for following along.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 05:06:44 PM
I've been reading some very interesting tweets from Mark Nejame today.  I'm going back and trying to sort it out.  It would appear someone started a  rumor JurorB37 isTrial Attorney Mark Nejame's wife.   ::MonkeyShocked::  Geesh.

https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 05:08:01 PM
Can you believe this one?!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


July 16 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
In response to the latest rumor: No, #GeorgeZimmerman did not win the FL state lottery last night. The Onion is satire, not news.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
Holder is working very hard to prove the big experiment was the worst thing to ever happen to the USA.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 05:10:02 PM
And it's back over to Governor Holder:

July 16, 2013 Tweets

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OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 8m
Florida democratic lawmakers ask Gov to respond 2 verdict, address polarization and amend "stand your ground' | http://bit.ly/14aIBZD


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 05:21:32 PM
"Stand your ground"  "Castle law"   "Stay off my lawn"
Beat my head on a sidewalk and me and your next of kin can debate till the cows come home.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 05:30:04 PM
Jeantel told Martin the creepy ass cracker might be a rapist, Martin attacks Zimmerman, HATE CRIME!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 05:30:36 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
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Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 1h
@JeffWeinerOS Can you confirm whether B37 was 1 of 2 jurors rejected by the State but empaneled by the judge per Defense Batson challenge?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55m
@Only4RM No, the two state strikes Judge Nelson overruled were E-6 and B-76.

 Only4RM ‏@Only4RM 51m
@JeffWeinerOS Sorry for bothering you but do you have notes on whether State has objections to B37? Was she considered after  Batson issues?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 43m
@Only4RM Neither side attempted to strike B-37. No objections from the state.

 PeggyAnn Holt ‏@pannholt 14m
@JeffWeinerOS @Only4RM Who were the 2 that prosecution Tried to strike Then?  When I watched was sure she was 1 of them?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
@pannholt @Only4RM Defense challenged 4 state strikes: B-12, B-86, E-6, B-76. Judge Nelson overruled state strikes of E-6 & B-76.
 RETWEET Only4RM
2:22 PM - 16 Jul 13 · Details

 PeggyAnn Holt ‏@pannholt 3m
@JeffWeinerOS @Only4RM Thank you Jeff


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 05:31:11 PM
Who's on first?   ::Baseball::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: theboyzmom on July 16, 2013, 05:34:47 PM
I will agree with Holder on one issue - there is no need for stand your ground laws. It is the INALIENABLE right of every creature to defend themselves. Even an amoeba - who has no "brain" - will swim away from painful things that could hurt it. But it is wrong to allow humans to do the same?  If someone attacks you, as a human being, you are and should be allowed to use the force necessary to defend yourself and your family (and any other innocent people). Amazing to me that the same people who expect the general taxpaying public to provide everything for "poor" people do not want to allow self defense.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 05:53:18 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

PeggyAnn Holt ‏@pannholt 12m
@JeffWeinerOS What was the Attorneys name who was the Defense's Jury Consultant? Is he local? @Only4RM

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
@pannholt @Only4RM Robert Hirschhorn. Not local, based in Texas.
2:44 PM - 16 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 05:57:23 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 8m
If #TrayvonMartin's parents sue #GeorgeZimmerman they face a possible deal breaker, SYG. Story: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-civil-immunity-20130716,0,981705.story …
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-civil-immunity-20130716,0,981705.story
Problems for Trayvon Martin civil suit: 'Stand your ground'
July 16, 2013

If Trayvon Martin's parents file a lawsuit against George Zimmerman, they face a huge obstacle: Florida's "stand your ground" law.

That much-debated statute provides immunity not just against criminal charges but also against civil suits.

Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Trayvon's parents, would not say Tuesday what their plans are.


"We're not even thinking about it right now," he said. Parents Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton "are still trying to deal with the tragedy of this verdict."

A six-member jury acquitted Zimmerman, a 29-year-old Neighborhood Watch volunteer, July 13 after listening to three weeks of testimony, concluding he did not commit a crime when he shot and killed the unarmed black 17-year-old.


But on Feb. 22 — months before the criminal trial — Crump attorney Bruce Blackwell told Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson that the family intends to sue. Theirs would most likely be a wrongful death claim or one alleging negligence.

Central Florida defense attorneys said Tuesday that just because Zimmerman was acquitted, that does not mean he won't be sued, but it does indicate the evidence weighs in his favor.

If Zimmerman is sued in this case, a judge would determine whether "stand your ground" applies. If the judge rules it does, Zimmerman would be released from liability. If the judge rules against that claim, the case would be tried before a jury.

Moments after Zimmerman was found not guilty, defense attorney Mark O'Mara said, "If someone believes it's appropriate to sue George Zimmerman, then we will seek and we will get immunity in a civil hearing, and we will see just how many civil lawsuits will be spawned by this fiasco."

That was a reference to a "stand your ground" hearing, one not yet held in this case.

Although O'Mara said shortly after the shooting that Zimmerman would challenge his criminal prosecution under that statute, defense attorneys ran out of time and opted to simply take the case to a jury.

The statute, enacted in Florida in 2005, provides criminal and civil immunity to anyone who uses deadly force if he has a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury.

O'Mara contends his client did, that he shot Trayvon Feb. 26, 2012, in Sanford after the Miami Gardens teenager knocked him to the ground with a punch that broke his nose then climbed on top and began banging his head against a sidewalk.
More...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 06:16:08 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)

Kristina ‏@CATEYES387 1h
@MarkNeJame @scs0003 so instead of blaming the state prosecutors you should go question Judge Nelson why she denied the acquittal then!

 Mark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 8m
@CATEYES387 @scs0003 Judge has no ability to deny an acquittal. Not permitted or legal. State handled things poorly w charging Murder 2
 3:09 PM - 16 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 06:18:34 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/marknejame (https://twitter.com/marknejame)

Kristina ‏@CATEYES387 1h
@MarkNeJame @scs0003 overcharging is just crazy! Judge Nelson ruled that there was enough evidence for a M2 conviction!

 Mark NeJame ‏@MarkNeJame 6m
@CATEYES387 @scs0003 Judgment of acquittal JOA is rarely granted.Simply means state put on enough to go to jury. State had failed strategy
RETWEET Kristina
3:13 PM - 16 Jul 13 · Details


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: WhiskeyGirl on July 16, 2013, 06:33:39 PM
"Stand your ground"  "Castle law"   "Stay off my lawn"
Beat my head on a sidewalk and me and your next of kin can debate till the cows come home.

I've been listening to commentary on the radio.  Some folks seem to think that Zimmerman stepped over the line when he asked Martin a question.  In their mind, this made Zimmerman the aggressor.

The host suggested that in this country, we have the right to ask questions. 

How many have been solicited in cities large and small (Seattle, Chicago, New York) by pan handlers? 

IIRC, Obama's white grandmother, was solicited by what what he profiled as an 'aggressive' panhandler who was black.  Being scared, she was apparently afraid to go to work or take the bus or something.  Obama, iirc, used this incident to label her a 'racist' - something about noticing his own blackness and comparing it to the panhandler.

Maybe Martin was a racist too?

What doesn't he seem to have noticed?  Learned?  Did she turn around and beat the pulp out of the panhandler?  Take offense at his asking a question? 

Was Zimmerman like that panhandler Obama's white grandmother faced decades ago?  Would grandma have beaten the tar out of him?


What of other homeless people?  Panhandlers?  Marketers at the mall?  Over the phone? 

When did asking questions become a bad thing?



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 16, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
7/16/13   
Ivy League professor calls God a 'racist' after Zimmerman verdict
 



An Ivy League professor blogged after George Zimmerman was found not guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin that the verdict shows God is a “white racist” who stalks “young black men.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/16/upenn-professor-goes-on-blog-rant-over-zimmerman-verdict-claims-god-is-white/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: klaasend on July 16, 2013, 07:49:52 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET: 

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/Pretzer071613_zpsae206a88.jpg)

Link to the show will be posted on the front page of scaredmonkeys.com in about 30 -40 minutes.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 16, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
Interesting article imo

http://www.cbs8.com/story/22858347/la-to-deploy-more-police-to-prevent-disturbances

Feds to sift through evidence in Zimmerman case
Posted: Jul 16, 2013 6:15 PM CDT Updated: Jul 16, 2013 6:15 PM CDT   
 
MIAMI (AP) — The Justice Department will sift through trial testimony, interviews and other evidence during what is likely to be a months-long investigation into whether George Zimmerman violated Trayvon Martin's civil rights when he shot the black teenager.

The key to charging Zimmerman, a former neighborhood watch volunteer, lies in whether evidence exists that he was motivated by racial animosity to kill Martin, who was 17 when he was shot during a fight with Zimmerman in February 2012. And while Martin's family has said the teen was racially profiled, no evidence surfaced during the state trial that Zimmerman had a racial bias.

Former Miami federal prosecutor David S. Weinstein says it will likely be months before a decision is made on whether to bring charges.

Zimmerman, 29, was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter charges after claiming he fired his weapon in self-defense only after Martin attacked him. His friends and family have repeatedly denied he harbored racial animosity toward blacks. Florida did not use its own hate crime laws against Zimmerman.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 16, 2013, 10:11:00 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  3m 
Members of #Zimmerman jury release letter about Juror #B37, say views were her own http://at.wftv.com/14XCSEw
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  17m 
The statement came from 4 other jurors. B29 did not join in the statement. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  23m 
Other jurors say in letter B37 voiced her own opinions not theirs, they followed the law and need time before speaking. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  46m 
The defense admitted that looking back either #Zimmermanon9 or Martin could have walked away and Martin would be alive.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  48m 
The defense just said that Jeantel never mentioned Martin was afraid of #Zimmermanon9 until the defense deposed her and the trial.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  49m 
Rachel Jeantel says she never talked to Martin about guns but their texts show otherwise. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3h 
How a Tweet (or Several) Broke Juror #B37's Book Deal: http://at.wftv.com/15jOkJC  via @SarahAslamWFTV @storify #ZimmermanOn9
View summary     


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 10:52:42 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 7m
George Zimmerman juror says Zimmerman's testimony would not have made a difference in verdict - see interview video | http://thesent.nl/11ViYfo
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
We have now heard from five #Zimmerman jurors. Still haven't heard from B-29, the sole minority juror on the panel. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
These 4 say B-37's remarks to @AndersonCooper were her own, "not in any way representative" of this group: http://twitdoc.com/26OH  #Zimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 30m
Statement from 4 #Zimmerman jurors, asking for privacy: http://twitdoc.com/26OH  Say they did what law "required us to do." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 11:07:33 PM
July 16. 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/SeminoleSO (https://twitter.com/SeminoleSO)

Gail Paschall-Brown ‏@gpbwesh 15 Jul
The Undersheriff says Sanford is strong and stable as a community and is an example to others pic.twitter.com/5ldg7exTH4 (http://pic.twitter.com/5ldg7exTH4)
 Retweeted by Seminole County S.O.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 16, 2013, 11:13:53 PM
July 16, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 7m
Four Zimmerman jurors: B-37 does not speak for us | http://thesent.nl/11VkE8C
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-jurors-react-20130716,0,7721592.story
4 Zimmerman jurors: B-37 does not speak for us
July 16, 2013

Four of the jurors in the George Zimmerman trial issued a statement late Tuesday saying that juror B-37, the first to speak out in the media, does not speak for them.

"We, the undersigned jurors, understand there is a great deal of interest in this case. But we ask you to remember that we are not public officials and we did not invite this type of attention into our lives. We also wish to point out that the opinions of Juror B-37, expressed on the Anderson Cooper show were her own, and not in any way representative of the jurors listed below," the four jurors wrote.

The statement was released about an hour after B-37 gave the second part of a two-part interview to CNN's Anderson Cooper explaining how the jury reached a verdict in the murder case and sharing her thoughts on the case. The first segment aired Monday.

The four jurors also appealed for privacy.
 ::snipping3::
The sixth juror, whose jury number did not appear in the list of those who signed the document, was the only minority on the panel. She is described as black or Hispanic and married with children. She lived in Chicago when the shooting happened.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 16, 2013, 11:47:13 PM
Klaas, will the radio show be on podcast? I missed it...
I was watching the All Star Game... Love me some Mo !


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cw618 on July 16, 2013, 11:59:49 PM
7/16/13     Zimmerman Juror Decides Not To Write Book About Trial
 


“I realize it was necessary for our jury to be sequestered in order to protest our verdict from unfair outside influence, but that isolation shielded me from the depth of pain that exists among the general public over every aspect of this case. The potential book was always intended to be a respectful observation of the trial from my and my husband’s perspectives solely and it was to be an observation that our ‘system’ of justice can get so complicated that it creates a conflict with our ‘spirit’ of justice.

Now that I am returned to my family and to society in general, I have realized that the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before I was called to sit on this jury.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/zimmerman-juror-decides-not-to-write-a-book

good i was suspicious, of such an agreement so soon after the verdict
i had posted last thread, an offer like that BD pre verdict,could sway a vote
IDK if that was the case, but if the BD goes/or had gone through
JMO would/should  be investegated

fyi mods i dont see spell check anymore


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 17, 2013, 12:53:55 AM
Plz disregard above post... I found it !!!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 02:25:20 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-george-zimmerman-doj-investigation,0,4338518.story

DOJ solicits email tips in Zimmerman civil rights probe
12:00 p.m. EDT, July 16, 2013

The U.S. Department of Justice on Monday afternoon appealed to civil rights groups and community leaders, nationally and in Sanford, for help investigating whether a federal criminal case might be brought against George Zimmerman for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, one advocate said.

The DOJ has also set up a public email address to take in tips on its civil rights investigation.

Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law – who earlier in the day joined calls for federal civil rights charges against Zimmerman, said that later in the afternoon, she joined a U.S. Department of Justice conference call to discuss the prospects.

“They were calling on us to actively refer anyone who had any information,” that might build a case against Zimmerman for either a civil rights violation or a hate crime, Arnwine said. “They said they would very aggressively investigate this case.”

Arnwine said the call was convened at about 3:30 p.m. by Tom Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice, and included representatives from the FBI, and several federal prosecutors, she said. DOJ officials also said they would open a public email address so people could send in tips on the case.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 07:36:57 AM
http://www.freep.com/article/20130716/NEWS07/307160138/Zimmerman-Trayvon-Martin-Stand-Your-Ground-Sanford-Florida-Protests-Marches-Civil-Rights
Zimmerman rallies in Detroit, other U.S. cities planned for Saturday
They're planned in 100 cities, including Detroit

July 16, 2013

MIAMI — Civil rights leaders said Tuesday that they are planning vigils and rallies in 100 U.S. cities, including Detroit, this weekend to press the federal government to bring charges against a former neighborhood-watch volunteer acquitted in the killing of an unarmed black teenager.
 ::snipping3::
“People all across the country will gather to show that we are not having a two- or three-day anger fit. This is a social movement for justice,” Rev. Al Sharpton said as he announced the plan outside the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, D.C.

The rallies and vigils will occur in front of federal buildings at noon Saturday in Detroit, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York and other cities.
 ::snipping3::
Sharpton said vigils will be followed by a conference next week in Miami to develop a plan to address the Stand Your Ground law. The law gives people wide latitude to use deadly force if they fear death or bodily harm.

According to a Washington Post report, the law began in Florida in 2005 and has spread to more than 30 other states — including Michigan — as a result of a campaign by the National Rifle Association and a corporate-backed group called the American Legislative Exchange Council, which promotes conservative bills.

The Justice Department has said it is looking into Martin’s death to determine whether federal prosecutors will file criminal civil rights charges against Zimmerman, who is now a free man. His lawyer has told ABC News that his client will get his gun back and intends to arm himself again.

The key to charging Zimmerman lies in whether evidence exists that he was motivated by racial animosity to kill Martin. Martin’s family has said the teen was racially profiled, but no evidence surfaced during the trial that Zimmerman had a racial bias. Zimmerman’s friends and family deny that he harbored animosity toward black people.

Still, supporters of the Justice Department filing civil rights charges said additional evidence could exist in the federal investigation that didn’t come up in the state case.

Beyond the exact language of the law itself, the federal probe must navigate between sensitive racial and political issues that arose when Zimmerman initially wasn’t charged in Martin’s killing.
 ::snipping3::
AG criticizes law: Attorney General Eric Holder on Tuesday strongly criticized Stand Your Ground laws that allow a person who believes he or she is in danger to use deadly force. He said it’s time to question laws that “senselessly expand the concept of self-defense.”

Holder also said the nation must take a hard look at laws that contribute to “more violence than they prevent.” Such laws, he said, “try to fix something that was never broken.”

Calif. protests turn violent: In Los Angeles, people ran through streets Monday night in a third night of demonstrations, attacking others, breaking windows and raiding a Walmart, while others blocked a major freeway in the San Francisco Bay area. Fourteen people were arrested. In Oakland, at least one person was injured and nine arrested in a protest.

At a news conference late Monday, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said the trouble was caused by people exploiting the situation. “The Martin family didn’t ask anybody to break car windows,” he said. “They didn’t ask anybody to take little kids’ scooters. They didn’t ask anybody to attack businesses, and they certainly didn’t say to take over traffic in the streets.”

On Tuesday, Los Angeles police vowed to crack down with quick action and arrests if further disturbances arise.
Juror drops book plan: A juror in the trial said Tuesday she is dropping plans to write about her account of the case. The woman had planned to write the book with her husband, an attorney.

The literary agent, Sharlene Martin, also announced that she had decided to rescind her offer of representation.

The juror said in her statement that being sequestered “shielded me from the depth of pain that exists among the general public over every aspect of this case.”


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 17, 2013, 08:41:54 AM
These rallies and people in the public eye speaking out against the verdict are so wrong to incite animosity among everyone.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 17, 2013, 08:50:09 AM
Jimmy Carter: George Zimmerman jury ‘right’

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/jimmy-carter-george-zimmerman-verdict-94320.html

Quote
“I think the jury made the right decision based on the evidence presented, because the prosecution inadvertently set the standard so high that the jury had to be convinced that it was a deliberate act by Zimmerman that he was not at all defending himself, and so forth,” Carter told Atlanta news channel WXIA. “It’s not a moral question, it’s a legal question and the American law requires that the jury listens to the evidence presented.”
::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on July 17, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
The jury has rendered a verdict and if people do not like it they should lobby to change the laws.
This has been great a great distraction to the IRS, Benghazi and NSA scandals. It knocked them right off the front page and now America can focus on a 'royal' baby...
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 17, 2013, 11:19:34 AM
Ever since I can remember I was told a story. Here is the short version;

A leader born in a foriegn land was asked about what should be done about a suspected criminal. Fearing political reprecussuions he passed it down to an underling. The underling trying to appear fair while secretely already fixing the outcome played the act of letting the unruly mob decide.
Many of the people began to see that a great mistake was made and the world was forever changed.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 17, 2013, 11:33:55 AM
7/16/13   Rachel Jeantel On Trayvon Martin Friendship: “He Never Judged Me”
 


“My education is first. I am educated. Trust me, I have a 3.0 I’m good. I need to get my life straight because this situation got a whole lot of things in my mind so I want to clear it up.”

 :smt044 :smt044 :smt044 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/07/16/rachel-jeantel-on-trayvon-martin-friendship-he-never-judged-me/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 17, 2013, 12:14:05 PM
7/17/13   Angela Corey's Checkered past

Shortly after Dershowitz’s criticisms, Harvard Law School’s dean’s office received a phone call. When the dean refused to pick up, Angela Corey spent a half hour demanding of an office-of-communications employee that Dershowitz be fired. According to Dershowitz, Corey threatened to sue Harvard, to try to get him disbarred, and also to sue him for slander and libel. Corey also told the communications employee that she had assigned a state investigator — an employee of the State of Florida, that is — to investigate Dershowitz. “That’s an abuse of office right there,” Dershowitz says.

http://nationalreview.com/article/353633/angela-coreys-checkered-past-ian-tuttle/page/0/1?splash


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 12:51:19 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Watch live: Rev. Al Sharpton speaking about #TrayvonMartin case now at NAACP convention in #Orlando | http://bit.ly/1aPTe82
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 01:03:53 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin (https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin)

OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 3h
DWS speaks on the behalf of Democrats: We respect your struggles and see your sacrifice

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 3h
DWS quotes Dr. King: "Real change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability but comes in on inevitable struggle."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 3h
Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz is up first at the .@NAACP convention.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 3h
Stay tuned as we live tweet .@TheRevAl .@RevJJackson and .@DWStweets as they speak at the .@NAACP convention


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 01:07:32 PM
I'm going to post where the part about the Travyon Martin case starts.  If someone wants to read the previous tweets, just click on the hyperlink.


July 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin (https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin)

OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton: When we come, the heat is on. "You're speaking because we got you sweating."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton: We raised the temperature to get civil rights legislation and turn around Stand Your Ground law

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton calls for end to FL Stand Your Ground law

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Even on the day of his mother's death, Sharpton filed a civil rights investigation into death of #TrayvonMartin

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton received a call 15 months ago from Ben Crump about a young man who was killed

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Watch live: Rev. Al Sharpton speaking about #TrayvonMartin case now at NAACP convention in #Orlando | http://bit.ly/1aPTe82

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton accompanied by Martin Luther King, III.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Now, .@NAACP welcomes Rev. Al Sharpton to the podium

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
To close the panel, Rev. Jackson stands up: there's a #TrayvonMartin in every state. "It's healing time. It's hope time."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 01:08:19 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  58m 
State vs Zimmerman: The Seminole County court system makes post-trial counseling available to jurors. via @PIOFLCourts18


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 01:08:41 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin (https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin)

OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
After rallying up the crowd to fight back, Sharpton welcomes Martin Luther King, III, to the podium.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton: "Fifty years ago we dealt with Jim Crow. Today, we deal with Jim Crow's children."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton: Will deal with SYG as test case in FL. "If we can do it in FL, we can do it in other states."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton: "We will march to Washington but stop by Tallahassee on the way."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
Sharpton: We can't put young lives on the line for someone who wants to kill them and claim self-defense


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 01:10:11 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin (https://twitter.com/OSTrayvonMartin)

OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
That concludes our live-tweeting for the NAACP convention today. Thanks for following.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King's speech comes to a close, looks forward to March in Washington: "Put your marching shoes on, we'll see you in August."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King: "Although I am disappointed...we've come much too far to be tired."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King encourages use of social media to engage the community

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King: In memory of Trayvon, we have to come together: black, white, old and young.

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King applauds Stevie Wonder for decision to not perform in FL until SYG law is changed, boycott of FL orange juice

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King calling for public policy along with street action

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King: "The dream of my father has not been fulfilled" in reference to freedom, justice, equality for all

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King: touching upon stop & frisk law, "Our children are targeted."

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 1h
King: "If you do not remember your history, you are doomed to repeat the mistakes of your past."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 01:17:53 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Stephanie Wash ‏@WashNews  1h 
Juror B37 has released a new statement via CNN, after four jurors distanced themselves from her. http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/17/justice/zimmerman-verdict-aftermath/ …
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor
------------------------------

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/17/justice/zimmerman-verdict-aftermath/

Exclusive: Juror pushes for new laws following Zimmerman trial
By Josh Levs. Dana Ford, and Holly Yan, CNN
updated 12:25 PM EDT, Wed July 17, 2013

(CNN) -- The woman known as Juror B37 in the George Zimmerman trial released a statement exclusively to CNN Wednesday pushing for new laws.

"My prayers are with all those who have the influence and power to modify the laws that left me with no verdict option other than 'not guilty' in order to remain within the instructions. No other family should be forced to endure what the Martin family has endured," she wrote.

The juror, who was interviewed by CNN, said she will not grant other interviews and wants to get back to a normal life. "For reasons of my own, I needed to speak alone," she said.

She issued the statement after four other jurors said the opinions she expressed on "Anderson Cooper 360" were "her own, and not in any way representative" of all the jurors.

In her CNN interview, which aired in two parts Monday and Tuesday nights on AC360, the juror said she believes Zimmerman didn't do anything unlawful and was "justified" in shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 01:19:00 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/17/nra-blasts-holder-for-attacking-stand-your-ground-laws-after-zimmerman-verdict/
NRA blasts Holder for attacking 'stand-your-ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict
July 17, 2013

The National Rifle Association blasted Eric Holder for using the George Zimmerman case to attack "stand-your-ground" laws, accusing the attorney general of exploiting Trayvon Martin's shooting death for political gain.
 
Holder weighed in on the controversial self-defense laws for the first time on Tuesday during a speech to the annual NAACP convention, calling for a national review of the statutes
 ::snipping3::

Holder has already confirmed that his Justice Department continues to investigate Zimmerman, in the wake of his acquittal, for possible federal civil rights crimes. But Chris W. Cox, executive director NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, claimed Holder went too far in extending the debate to "stand-your-ground" laws.

"The attorney general fails to understand that self-defense is not a concept, it's a fundamental human right," he said in a statement. "To send a message that legitimate self-defense is to blame is unconscionable, and demonstrates once again that this administration will exploit tragedies to push their political agenda."

The laws are in place in more than two dozen states, including Florida. They allow people to use deadly force if they think their life is being threatened. The role that law played in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is a matter of dispute -- Zimmerman's defense team technically did not use the law as the basis for their arguments.

But Holder, in his speech to the NAACP, suggested that the laws encourage gun owners to seek confrontation rather than avoid it.
 ::snipping3::

He called for a "hard look" at the laws. The crowd applauded as he said "we must stand our ground."

The "stand-your-ground" laws have been a popular target ever since the Martin shooting, and the pressure has intensified after Zimmerman was acquitted on Saturday.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott, though, told Fox News that officials should not politicize the case.

"We shouldn't turn this into politics. This was a tragedy," he told Fox News on Monday.

Scott noted that he already put together a bipartisan commission to examine Florida's "stand-your-ground" law.

"Their recommendation is we not make any changes, that it is working the way it was intended," Scott said.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Mere on July 17, 2013, 01:39:31 PM
   ::HelloKitty::  Has the judge been interviewed or has she spoken up about the case?  Most everyone has....
 
I am pleased that the four jurors have spoken and let the world know that one juror is not speaking for them.  I think it is dangerous for that one juror who is
telling the world her version and her thoughts.  She may ultimately be sorry that she did that.

I used to listen to the news in the background much of the day.  The TV is on mute with the exception of our local news.  I am now choosing the written word....
newspapers, blogs, magazine articles, Scared Monkeys....!  I think the standards are higher than what I am hearing on TV.

Thanks to everyone here for the wonderful coverage.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 01:43:17 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-07-16/story/fired-it-director-who-testified-george-zimmerman-trial-will-sue-state

Fired IT director who testified in George Zimmerman trial will sue State Attorney's Office, lawyer says
Posted: July 16, 2013 - 9:48pm  |  Updated: July 17, 2013 - 7:36am

Ben Kruidbos testified last month that prosecutors did not turn over all information to George Zimmerman’s defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. Last week, State Attorney Angela Corey fired Kruidbos. Now, his attorney says he plans on filing a lawsuit within 30 days.

“He has certainly received a major body blow by the conduct of the State Attorney’s Office,” said his attorney, Wesley White. “He knows he did the right thing.”

The same day prosecutors finished their closing arguments, one of Corey’s investigators went to Ben Kruidbos’ home about 7:30 a.m. to hand-deliver a letter that said Kruidbos “can never again be trusted to step foot in this office.”

On Tuesday, White said he will file a whistleblower lawsuit on Kruidbos’ behalf in Florida’s Fourth Judicial District Circuit against the State Attorney’s Office.

Cheryl Peek, the managing director of the State Attorney’s Office, wrote the six-page termination letter, which also said, ““Your egregious lack of regard for the sensitive nature of the information handled by this office is completely abhorrent. You have proven to be completely untrustworthy.”

Peek noted he was questioned in March when the office was trying to determine who had leaked personnel information obtained through a computer breach.

She also wrote that Kruidbos did a poor job overseeing the information technology department, violated public records law for retaining documents and was insubordinate.

A document dated May 16, however, says he received a pay raise for “meritorious performance.”
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 01:59:23 PM
   ::HelloKitty::  Has the judge been interviewed or has she spoken up about the case?  Most everyone has....
 
I am pleased that the four jurors have spoken and let the world know that one juror is not speaking for them.  I think it is dangerous for that one juror who is
telling the world her version and her thoughts.  She may ultimately be sorry that she did that.

I used to listen to the news in the background much of the day.  The TV is on mute with the exception of our local news.  I am now choosing the written word....
newspapers, blogs, magazine articles, Scared Monkeys....!  I think the standards are higher than what I am hearing on TV.

Thanks to everyone here for the wonderful coverage.

 ::HelloKitty::

I haven't seen any videos/articles of the judge giving interviews or making any comments, yet.  I think that it will be a while before she does.
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 02:02:30 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
RT @WFTV: UPDATE: Rev. Al Sharpton will not attend #LakeEola rally http://at.wftv.com/15FB9Cu  pic.twitter.com/e2ogQwtIYY #ZimmermanOn9
View photo   
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPY4UuVCMAACBFi.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 02:14:38 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  22m 
@Ljay90 http://bit.ly/14ZaphB
 View summary     

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  24m 
Here's a link to the juror questionnaire for the #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin trial: http://bit.ly/14ZaphB
View summary     

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  26m 
Just posted the juror questionnaire for the trial of #GeorgeZimmerman released by the court. Check my tweets for links.  #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  29m 
@Yamiche: #GeorgeZimmerman juror questionnaire question two: If you have heard of Zimmerman or Trayvon, "what have you heard?"

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  30m 
Just uploaded State v. Zimmerman -Jury Questionnaire http://www.scribd.com/doc/154347795/State-v-Zimmerman-Jury-Questionnaire … via @Scribd
View summary     

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  31m 
#GeorgeZimmerman juror questionnaire first question was: Have you heard of #GeorgeZimmerman? Have you heard of #TrayvonMartin ?

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  32m 
The #GeorgeZimmerman juror questionnaire asked for a name, juror number, address, date of birth, occupation, employer and education level.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  45m 
Court just released the juror questionnaire for George Zimmerman's trial.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
#ZimmermanTrial: Jury selection questionnaire released | http://bit.ly/1aQBZmO  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31m
@RLM_3 Yes, I tweeted about that already. Check my tweets from about a half hour ago.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36m
@RLM_3 No worries. Questionnaire: http://bit.ly/1aQzpgC
 
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 37m
@sherylkaye SYG language was in jury instructions. Page 12: http://bit.ly/18e1XQb  "... no duty to retreat... right to stand his ground..."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 41m
@RLM_3 Yup, here they are: http://bit.ly/18e1XQb
 
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
The lawyers discussed Q4 a lot during selection, but didn't say what it was. I was close: http://bit.ly/1dF7vR3 , http://bit.ly/1dF6J6n
 
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@RichardHornsby Check my tweet after the one you replied to.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Also on the 1st page (didn't catch it on my first read). Looks like both references in the questionnaire misspelled #TrayvonMartin's name.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
As @MichaelSkolnik notes, #TrayvonMartin's name is misspelled on 2nd page of the jury questionnaire just released: http://bit.ly/1dF6J6n

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
PDF: #Zimmerman juror questionnaire, 1st questions: "Have you ever heard of" #GeorgeZimmerman? #TrayvonMartin? http://twitdoc.com/26QQ

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
Just uploaded State v. Zimmerman -Jury Questionnaire http://www.scribd.com/doc/154347795/State-v-Zimmerman-Jury-Questionnaire … via @Scribd
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 03:34:14 PM
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/george-zimmerman-and-nature-criminal-justice_739906.html

George Zimmerman and the Nature of Criminal Justice
11:33 AM, Jul 17, 2013 • By JONATHAN V. LAST

We're way past overload on Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman commentary, but there is a tiny tributary of the story that has been largely overlooked. And it's worth a moment because it points to a larger problem regarding both the state and the public.

The first is the modus operandi of the Florida prosecutors. I understand that overcharging may be routine in the criminal justice system. It's partly what fuels the plea bargain system, and that's what keeps the entire machine moving rather than sputtering to a broken halt. But that doesn't make it right. If the public is to have faith in the system, we need to believe that prosecutors are acting in the interests of justice. Not looking for leverage.

So how should prosecutors act? For starters, they should understand that their job is not to avenge the victim, or seek redress on their behalf. Here's Joseph Bottum with an excellent explanation as to why a fixation on victims is bad legal catechesis:

All political theories note that ancient legal systems began with the outlawing of private revenge, but the state does not thereby become a sort of hired agent or substitute avenger. That is what a theory of civil harms is for, and such torts are addressed not in criminal but civil courts, where the plaintiff, not the government, collects the monetary damages. Genuine crimes, in a modern setting, are instead committed against society and its laws—just as, in medieval England, all crimes were crimes against the king. In strict legal theory, the victims are incidental; the entire body politic is injured by a crime, and the social disorder of that crime is what a government's criminal-justice system must address.

The prosecutor's job, then, is to act for the rest of society in seeking justice for social disorder. And properly understood, this job has two parts. She seeks redress for the laws that were broken. And she safeguards the rights of the citizenry—all of it, even the accused—against a misuse of power by the state. These duties might sometimes be in tension, but they are always of equal importance.
 ::snipping3::
The Zimmerman-Martin case suggests that when both the state and the public lose sight of the ideas that animate the system, it is more imperfect than it should be.

Which should worry all of us.
----------------------------
Jonathan V. Last is a senior writer at The Weekly Standard. His writings have been featured in the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, the Philadelphia Inquirer, the New York Post, the Claremont Review of Books, First Things, the Week, Salon, Slate, TV Guide, and elsewhere.




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
July 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
Here's @SeminoleSO's full statement on #Zimmerman juror sequestration & costs: http://bit.ly/1dFqgnp  #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
.@SeminoleSO preliminary figures put its total cost for "overtime, equipment, other trial-related expenses," at $320,000. #ZimmermanTrial

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 22m
BREAKING: Zimmerman trial: Details released about sequestered jury | http://thesent.nl/1dFpTJq
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 22m
.@SeminoleSO puts cost of sequestering #Zimmerman jurors at "approximately $33,000." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
#Zimmerman jurors were allowed their cell phones once a day for calls, voicemails, "in the presence of a deputy," @SeminoleSO says.

 Seminole County S.O. ‏@SeminoleSO 25m
Sheriff's Office releases info on jury sequestration.  Read full news release here: http://tinyurl.com/6epwm6o
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
.@SeminoleSO: All TV, internet, reading, mail, & calls "were screened, monitored and logged by deputies" for trial-related info. #Zimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
#Zimmerman jurors also watched July 4th fireworks, went to movies to see “World War Z” & “The Lone Ranger,” @SeminoleSO says.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
#Zimmerman jurors excursions while sequestered: bowling, shopping at Volusia Mall, a St. Augustine trip, manicures & pedicures.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28m
Jurors had dinner out twice: Outback Steakhouse in Sanford and Amigo's in Altamonte Springs. Also went out twice for lunch. #Zimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29m
.@SeminoleSO: #Zimmerman jurors "watched television and movies" exercised in fitness center, had family visits on weekends. #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31m
.@SeminoleSO: Jurors had individual rooms, "convened regularly in a suite for meals and to socialize." #GeorgeZImmerman #ZimmermanTrial

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 32m
.@SeminoleSO: #Zimmerman jurors spent 22 days in Marriott hotel on International Parkway in Lake Mary, Fla. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33m
Breaking: @SeminoleSO releases details on how jurors were sequestered for the #ZimmermanTrial. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
http://www.seminolesheriff.org/external/DailyReports.aspx?pageID=97

Seminole County Sheriff's Office
Press And Community Releases


SCSO releases information about State vs. Zimmerman jury sequestration 07/17/2013 - Download
The Seminole County Sheriff’s Office (SCSO) was responsible for the sequestration of the jury during the State vs. Zimmerman trial. The jury was originally sequestered on Friday, June 21 and spent 22 nights at the Marriott on International Parkway in Lake Mary, Fla. During the sequestration, jurors had individual rooms and convened regularly in a suite for meals and to socialize. Jurors watched television and movies, exercised at the hotel fitness center, and spent weekends being visited by family and friends. Jurors could also request visits from members of the religious community. Anyone visiting members of the jury was asked to sign an agreement indicating they would not discuss the case with the jury member or disclose any information to outside parties about the details of their visit. Most breakfast and dinner meals were provided through the hotel. Jurors dined out twice: at Outback Steakhouse in Sanford and at Amigo’s in Altamonte Springs. Dinner was also brought in from Giovanni’s in Lake Mary. Lunches typically took place at the courthouse with lunch brought in from area restaurants. The group went out for lunch twice, both times to Senior Tequila’s in Winter Springs. Jurors also enjoyed several evening and weekend excursions to include bowling, shopping at the Volusia Mall, a day and dinner in St. Augustine (to include a visit to the Ripley’s Believe It or Not Museum), manicures and pedicures, and watching fireworks on the fourth of July. Jurors also went to the movies to see “World War Z” and “The Lone Ranger.” All movies viewed were preapproved by the court. Jurors were provided access to the hotel’s laundry service or could send laundry home with family members. Jurors were permitted to go to appointments for personal care if accompanied by deputies. All television, internet use, reading materials, mail, and phone calls were screened, monitored and logged by deputies to ensure jurors were not exposed to any trial information, or content related to the criminal justice system. Jurors were permitted to receive their cell phones once per day to check voicemails and make telephone calls in the presence of a deputy. SCSO deputies provided security for jurors at all times during their sequestration. SCSO will not disclose the number of deputies assigned to this duty. In accordance with Florida Statutes, the Clerk of the Court is responsible for juror expenses for meals and lodging. Jurors paid for their own personal purchases and appointment costs. The Sheriff’s Office paid for the movie and bowling excursions and the Ripley’s admission. Although exact costs are not yet available, the hotel cost was approximately $1,000 daily, and meals were approximately $375 per day. The excursion expenses were approximately $350. In total, sequestrations costs were approximately $33,000. The Sheriff’s Office is still compiling the agency’s total costs associated with the trial. Preliminary figures indicate SCSO spent approximately $320,000 on overtime, equipment, other trial-related expenses.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 17, 2013, 05:03:35 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-sequestration-20130717,0,7940964.story
Zimmerman trial: Sequester of jury cost $33,000
Jurors had their own rooms, ate at Outback Steakhouse

July 17, 2013



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cw618 on July 17, 2013, 06:13:28 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-sequestration-20130717,0,7940964.story
Zimmerman trial: Sequester of jury cost $33,000
Jurors had their own rooms, ate at Outback Steakhouse

July 17, 2013



i did my civic duty and was paid 25$ a day, trial was a rape trial and lasted
4 days, we were not sequestered,went home everyday,judges instructions
dont talk about it,this was about 8yr ago
i hate to see the bill for castro trial LOL, i guess justice has a high price sometimes


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 08:28:47 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/17/zimmerman-trayvon-martin-jury-consultant-killing-sanford/2530151/

All-woman jury was a key strategy, Zimmerman defense consultant says
Yamiche Alcindor 6:03 p.m. EDT July 17, 2013

SANFORD, Fla. -- One of the people instrumental in helping George Zimmerman's defense team pick an all-women jury says that he decided months in advance that a female panel brought the best chance for acquittal.

Robert Hirschhorn, a jury consultant with more than 28 years experience, told USA TODAY that women are better listeners, less judgmental, and would more easily understand the fear Zimmerman felt when he shot Trayvon Martin.

"I wanted to make sure we were going to get jurors that would follow what the court of law required not what the court of public opinion wanted," Hirschhorn said. "My number one goal was to get fair jurors that would really be able to listen to the evidence and decide the case on facts and law not emotion."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 17, 2013, 11:41:24 PM
Video at the link

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/17/alternate-juror-in-zimmerman-trial-says-agrees-with-verdict/

Alternate juror in Zimmerman trial says he agrees with the verdict
Published July 18, 2013

An alternate juror in the George Zimmerman murder trial says he supports the six female jurors' decision to clear the former Florida neighborhood watch captain of all charges in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

In an exclusive interview with MyFoxOrlando.com, Juror E54, who was one of four alternate jurors in the case, says he felt the injuries Zimmerman sustained during the altercation were the most convincing piece of evidence in the trial. He also said he believed it was Zimmerman who was screaming for help in a 911 call played during the trial, not Martin.

Jurpr E54, who asked that his name not be released and his face be obscured during the interview, also tells the station he relied on the testimony from the witnesses who heard Zimmerman and Martin fighting the night of the shooting.

"I call them 'ear-witnesses,' the ones who heard the noises and which way the noises were going.  They helped me fill the gap," he said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 18, 2013, 09:45:46 AM
I understand peaceful protest.  However, I don't agree with folks getting in to rush hour traffic.  Besides being dangerous, I don't believe anyone has the right to stand in front of cars on a busy freeway, as that impinges on my right to drive home or wherever.  Protest or rally in more appropriate venues.

Why would a large group of protesters need to get INSIDE a mall?  Trying to force their way in?  It's private property, and I feel for the merchants there.  And why would protesters go into a gas station, open items and leave without paying?  That's not protesting, that's thievery.  I believe we have the right to peaceful assembly and some are doing that, but some others are hooligans and thieves imo. 

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-zimmerman-trial-protest-17-arrested-victorville-20130717,0,5579226.story
17 people arrested in Zimmerman trial protest in Victorville
July 17, 2013

Demonstrators held a peaceful rally in Beverly Hills against the George Zimmerman trial verdict, but 17 people were arrested during a rally that turned rowdy in Victorville, authorities said Wednesday night.

Protesters rallied at La Cienega Park in Beverly Hills on Wednesday evening and then marched along busy Wilshire Boulevard in response to the Saturday acquittal of Zimmerman of second-degree murder by a Florida jury in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Some carried signs saying "We Are All Trayvon" and "Sin Justicia No Hay Paz," or Without Justice There is No Peace. The marchers snarled rush-hour traffic in the area but were peaceful, the Beverly Hills Police Department said.

In Victorville, eight of the 17 people arrested Wednesday night were juveniles, the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department said. Most of the arrests were made on charges of unlawful assembly.
A department spokeswoman said most of the 80 people who took part in the rally were peaceful.

But 10 to 15 juveniles went into a store at a Chevron gas station near Bear Valley Road and Balsam Avenue and reportedly opened items and left without paying, authorities said.

A large group of people gathered at the Mall of Victor Valley parking lot and tried to force their way into the mall. They were stopped by security guards who locked the doors.


Deputies from multiple stations responded and ordered the group to disperse, the department said in a statement. Most of the people left, but those who didn't were arrested.

Another peaceful rally and march was held Wednesday evening in Pasadena.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 18, 2013, 09:53:53 AM
Uber-Lib Bill Maher Booed for Tasteless George Zimmerman Jokes & Florida on CBS ‘Late Show’ with David Letterman … “I say if he [Zimmerman] gets a gun, Casey Anthony gets a baby.”

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/18/uber-lib-bill-maher-booed-for-tasteless-george-zimmerman-jokes-florida-on-cbs-late-show-with-david-letterman-i-say-if-he-zimmerman-gets-a-gun-casey-anthony-gets-a-baby/

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Last night in the ‘Late Show’ with David Letterman, far left comedian Bill Maher was booed for offering up some completely tasteless jokes regarding George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who was just found “not guilty” of murder or manslaughter in the death of Trayvon Martin, and the state of Florida. When Letterman has stated that Maher was a minority owner of the NY Mets, Maher followed up with, “Better than being a minority in Florida.” Then the boos came.  But not to be out done, Maher then said, “You know they want to give George Zimmerman a gun now. The Florida state law is that he can get his gun back. I say if he gets a gun, Casey Anthony gets a baby.”  Cassey Anthony was the Florida tot mom who got away with the murder and was found not guilty in the death of her two year old daughter Caylee Anthony who was found less than a mile away from her home discarded in the woods. Guess what then happened at the Letterman show, the boos came again and even louder. The sad part is Maher actually had to ask why they were booing. How bad were these tasteless jokes and how far LEFT has Bill Maher gone, even the crowd at the far-Left David Letterman show did not approve.

Who would have ever thought the death of a 17 year old teen and the murder of a 2 year old child wasn’t funny?
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check out the video


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 18, 2013, 11:33:31 AM
Video at the link

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57594331-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-trayvon-martins-mother-stunned-by-not-guilty-verdict/

July 18, 2013 10:17 AM
George Zimmerman trial: Trayvon Martin's mother "stunned" by not-guilty verdict

(CBS)The mother of slain Florida teenager Trayvon Martin said she was "stunned" at Saturday's acquittal of George Zimmerman, the former neighborhood watch captain who had been charged in their son's shooting death.

PICTURES: George Zimmerman on trial in death of Fla. teen

PICTURES: George Zimmerman crime scene photos

READ: Trayvon Martin Shooting: A timeline of events

Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin spoke on CBS This morning, speaking publicly for the first time since the controversial verdict. Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin last year during an altercation in a Sanford, Fla. gated community. Prosecutors argued Zimmerman profile Martin as a criminal, while Zimmerman argued he shot in self-defense.
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"I thought surely that he would be found guilty of second degree murder, manslaughter at the least. But I just knew that they would see that this was a teenager just trying to get home," Sybrina Fulton said. "This was no burglar. This was somebody's son that was trying to get home."Fulton said that she was "stunned" by the verdict. Fulton and Tracy Martin were not in the courtroom as the verdict was read.

She called on President Obama to investigate the case with a "fine-toothed comb," and also addressed remarks by a juror who said in an interview with CNN that her son played a large role in his own death.

"I don't think she knows Trayvon," Fulton said.

"Trayvon is not a confrontational person. Instead of placing the blame on the teenager, we need to place the blame on the responsible adult. There were two people involved. We had an adult who was chasing a kid and we had a kid who I feel was afraid."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 18, 2013, 11:41:35 AM
Video at the link

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/trayvon-martin-family-obama-94404.html

George Zimmerman trial: Trayvon Martin parents turn to President Obama
7/18/13 7:36 AM EDT  Updated: 7/18/13 10:38 AM EDT

Trayvon Martin’s parents on Thursday asked President Barack Obama to go through the details of the shooting death of their son with a fine-tooth comb, saying that American teenagers don’t know how to behave in its wake.

Appearing on “CBS This Morning,” Martin’s mother Sybrina Fulton, who appeared along with his father, Tracy Martin, was asked what she wanted the president to do.

“That’s pretty tough. To say the least, at least investigate what happened. At least go through it with a fine-tooth comb and just make sure all the T’s were crossed and all the I’s were dotted, because this is sending a terrible message,” Fulton said. “It’s sending out a terrible message to young teenagers. Trayvon was walking too slow, so should they be walking too fast? You know, so I don’t think teenagers in whole know exactly what to do now.”
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 18, 2013, 12:12:29 PM
July 18, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3h 
RT @WFTV: Parents of #TrayvonMartin speak out on @GMA INTERVIEW: http://at.wftv.com/13QrSvK  #zimmermanon9 pic.twitter.com/XN9OnI8xmR
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  14h 
Our legal analyst says if Martin's family sues #Zimmermanon9 that stuff is more likely to come in at a civil trial.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  14h 
Photos and texts, fighting texts and school records about getting caught with a "burglary tool" and jewelry to rebut state.  #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  14h 
B37 said the jury didn't hear much about Martin. Pundits are asking why. The defense would have brought in his gun 1/2 #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 18, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
 A local news/talk host just said that since the trial he has went back and listened to some tapes of the trial. He has discovered something that he is certain 99% of the people don't know. "Martin was almost home and came back."
 I swear that's what he said. The case is solved.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 18, 2013, 06:07:49 PM
Alagary, maybe he came to that conclusion from listening to the testimonies of witnesses Jeantel and Bahadoor?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-told-friend-man-final-moments/story?id=19490796
Trayvon Martin Told Friend About Man Following Him in Final Moments
June 26, 2013

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"I thought he was going to be OK because he was right by his daddy's house, but his daddy was not home," Jeantel said as Martin's father cried in court.

And TM was running toward the T from his father's girlfriend's house--left to right?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/us/witness-portrays-zimmerman-as-neighborhoods-eyes-and-ears.html?_r=0
Running, a Fight and Then a Shot, a Witness Testifies in Zimmerman’s Trial
June 25, 2013

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The witness, Selene Bahadoor, said she heard running, shouting and the word “no” at the back of her town house at the Retreat at Twin Lakes on Feb. 26, 2012, the night Mr. Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer at the complex, and Mr. Martin encountered each other. Ms. Bahadoor said she was in the kitchen when she heard what sounded like running, a movement from “left to right.” From a window at the rear of her home, she said, she saw what looked like two people flailing their arms. Both were standing, Ms. Bahadoor said, but it was too dark to make out their faces or clothing.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 18, 2013, 06:11:43 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/18/justice/doj-zimmerman/index.html

Justice Department asks police to hold Zimmerman evidence 
updated 5:10 PM EDT, Thu July 18, 2013

(CNN) -- The Department of Justice has asked the Sanford, Florida, police department to hold all evidence related to the George Zimmerman case, Sanford Capt. Jim McAuliffe said Thursday.

The request is related to the Justice Department's own investigation of the matter, McAuliffe said. The move was expected as the agency weighs whether to pursue a civil rights case.

The Department of Justice opened an investigation into the Zimmerman case last year, and a statement from the agency Sunday said it was ongoing and will now include evidence and testimony from the Florida trial.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 18, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2013/07/18/2587879/parents-of-trayvon-martin-to-join.html

Parents of Trayvon Martin to join Saturday vigils
Published: July 18, 2013

WASHINGTON — Trayvon Martin's parents plan to participate in separate vigils Saturday.

Martin's mother and her son, Sybrina and Jahvaris Fulton, will join Al Sharpton outside New York Police Department headquarters.

Martin's father, Tracy Martin, is set to be at a similar event at a federal courthouse in Miami.

Sharpton's National Action Network is planning rallies in 100 cities to press for federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 18, 2013, 06:30:14 PM
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2013/07/18/2587879/parents-of-trayvon-martin-to-join.html

Parents of Trayvon Martin to join Saturday vigils
Published: July 18, 2013

WASHINGTON — Trayvon Martin's parents plan to participate in separate vigils Saturday.

Martin's mother and her son, Sybrina and Jahvaris Fulton, will join Al Sharpton outside New York Police Department headquarters.

Martin's father, Tracy Martin, is set to be at a similar event at a federal courthouse in Miami.

Sharpton's National Action Network is planning rallies in 100 cities to press for federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 18, 2013, 06:32:52 PM
Why should the President get involved any more thn he already has in this case?
He better not or he will get himself in a heap of  backlash.
There is a survey on twitter asking if Obama should get involved and I think it was 91% said NO!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 18, 2013, 06:33:23 PM
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2013/07/18/2587879/parents-of-trayvon-martin-to-join.html

Parents of Trayvon Martin to join Saturday vigils
Published: July 18, 2013

WASHINGTON — Trayvon Martin's parents plan to participate in separate vigils Saturday.

Martin's mother and her son, Sybrina and Jahvaris Fulton, will join Al Sharpton outside New York Police Department headquarters.

Martin's father, Tracy Martin, is set to be at a similar event at a federal courthouse in Miami.

Sharpton's National Action Network is planning rallies in 100 cities to press for federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman.
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Yep


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 18, 2013, 06:47:43 PM
Why should the President get involved any more thn he already has in this case?
He better not or he will get himself in a heap of  backlash.
There is a survey on twitter asking if Obama should get involved and I think it was 91% said NO!


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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 18, 2013, 07:51:26 PM
Why should the President get involved any more thn he already has in this case?
He better not or he will get himself in a heap of  backlash.
There is a survey on twitter asking if Obama should get involved and I think it was 91% said NO!


If I can find the survey, I'll do my best to make it 92%.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 18, 2013, 08:25:04 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/18/protesters-upset-with-verdict-in-zimmerman-trial-remaining-in-fla-state-capitol/
Protesters upset with verdict in Zimmerman trial remaining in Fla. State Capitol for 3rd night
July 18, 2013

TALLAHASSEE, FLA. –  Protesters upset with the verdict in the George Zimmerman trial are refusing to leave the Florida State Capitol for a third straight night.

Activists say they will remain in the Capitol until Gov. Rick Scott meets their demand to have legislators revamp the state's self-defense laws.

Scott, a Republican, has been out of town and has said no to a special session. He also has said he does not see a reason to revisit Florida's "stand your ground" law.
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The Capitol Police so far has been allowing the group to remain in the building hallways overnight.

The group is upset that Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter charges in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 18, 2013, 08:34:13 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/18/charles_barkley_on_zimmerman_trial_i_agree_with_the_verdict.html
Charles Barkley On Zimmerman Trial: "I Agree With The Verdict"
July 18, 2013

Video at link.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 18, 2013, 08:36:36 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/07/18/Jesse-Jackson-Calls-To-Boycott-Florida-as-Apartheid-State
JESSE JACKSON: 'INCLINATION' TO TREAT FLORIDA AS 'APARTHEID STATE'
July 18, 2013

Video at Link


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 18, 2013, 08:38:23 PM
July 18, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
DOJ to Sanford police: Don't return #Zimmerman's gun while we're investigating | Story: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-gun-20130718,0,2431785.story … Via @ReneStutzman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 18, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-gun-20130718,0,2431785.story
DOJ: Don't return gun to George Zimmerman while we're investigating
July 18, 2013

Following a request from the FBI, the Sanford Police Department reported Thursday that it has halted its plan to return George Zimmerman's gun and other pieces of evidence used at his murder trial.

The move is a clear sign that the U.S. Department of Justice is moving ahead with its investigation into whether the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer violated the civil rights of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black 17-year-old he shot in Sanford last year.

Zimmerman was acquitted Saturday by a six-member Seminole County Jury, a decision that has prompted demonstrations in Sanford, Orlando and major cities across the U.S., including violence in Oakland and Los Angeles.

Zimmerman told police he killed Trayvon in self-defense after the Miami Gardens high school junior knocked him to the ground and broke his nose with one punch then climbed on top and began pounding his head against a sidewalk.

Jurors found Zimmerman not guilty of second-degree murder or manslaughter. During their 16 hours of deliberations, they had access to all of the 250-plus pieces of evidence, including Zimmerman's gun.


The Seminole County Clerk of Courts released the evidence earlier this week to the police department.

Before returning individual items to their owners, however, department officials talked to one or more FBI agents in Orlando, according to Sanford police spokesman Capt. Jim McAuliffe.

On Thursday, the police department finalized its plan.

"The evidence is just in a hold status, pending their DOJ investigation," McAuliffe said.

It is being stored in a secure area within the police department, he said.

The items include Zimmerman's gun, Trayvon's clothes, cell phone, the bag of Skittles and beverage found in his pockets – in short all the evidence collected by the agency as it investigated the Feb. 26, 2012, homicide.

Following the verdict, there were demands for a federal civil rights investigation, but the DOJ began its probe more than a year ago, although it has said little about its findings.
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Records released by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey show that FBI agents last year interviewed three dozen friends and associates of Zimmerman, and each said Zimmerman did not use racial epithets or show signs of being a racist.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 18, 2013, 10:55:17 PM
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/author/jchristianadams/

New Black Panthers Conspired to Violate 18 USC 245, Holder Snoozes
Thursday, July 18th, 2013  - by J. Christian Adams

Much bluster has come from Eric Holder in the past week about civil rights charges against George Zimmerman.  As I have written, the Justice Department has a high hurdle to bring such charges under two possible statutes (18 USC 245 and 18 USC 249), largely because there is no evidence Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin with the requisite racial intent or motivation.

But can the same be said of the bounty the New Black Panthers placed on the seizure of the lawfully free man, George Zimmerman?

18 USC 245 says:

Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, by force or threat of force willfully injures, intimidates or interferes with, or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with . . . any person because of his race, color, religion or national origin and because he is or has been . . . traveling in or using any facility of interstate commerce, or using any vehicle, terminal, or facility of any common carrier by motor, rail, water, or air.

The Justice Department has successfully advanced, under this law, a “public streets” theory. That is, a citizen is free merely to be in public and free from attacks and intimidation.  Like in the renewed civil rights hunt for Zimmerman by Holder, racial motivation is an element.
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J. Christian Adams is an election lawyer who served in the Voting Rights Section at the U.S. Department of Justice.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cubbeegirl on July 18, 2013, 10:55:28 PM
http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130715001-ga-marine-beat.html


Where is the outrage ?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cw618 on July 18, 2013, 11:00:45 PM
JMO,i said when this case happened that most people are not equipped to handle
the SYG law, we live in a society now that is not a wild wild west culture, which i feel
the SYG lends to that kind of thinking about the SYG law. its not just defend your
castle/home,its defend your person anytime anywhere, and if need be with deadly
force, and if the protesters want to protest something,it should be the courts interpretation
of the SYG and that interpretations consequences
one of many examples
as always JMO

Zimmerman trial turns spotlight on another Florida self-defense case
Reuters
Susan Cooper Eastman3 hours ago
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Under the "Stand Your Ground" law, people fearing for their lives can use deadly force without having to retreat from a confrontation, even when it is possible
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Alexander, a slightly built woman, said her husband, Rico Gray, was moving toward her threateningly when she fired into a kitchen wall. He had previously been convicted on a domestic violence charge for attacking her.

 Gray's two children were at home, in the living room. Prosecutors alleged that the shot endangered Gray and the children.
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 Alexander filed a "Stand Your Ground" claim, but a judge ruled against her because Alexander chose to go back into the house with her gun.

 A jury took just 12 minutes to find her guilty of three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon
more@
http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-trial-turns-spotlight-another-florida-self-defense-005758230.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 18, 2013, 11:33:51 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.com/

Post George Zimmerman Murder Trial … Rachel Jeantel Says She Thinks Trayvon Martin Threw The First Punch, HUH, Wouldn’t that be Self-Defense?
Posted July 18, 2013

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/rachel-jeantel-huffpost-live-interview_n_3610921.html

Rachel Jeantel: 'I Believe Trayvon Hit First' (VIDEO)
Posted: 07/17/2013 11:33 am EDT  |  Updated: 07/17/2013 12:11 pm EDT


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 19, 2013, 07:56:07 AM
http://www.khou.com/news/local/HPD-chief-Stay-away-from-River-Oaks-protest-216085491.html
HPD chief: Stay away from River Oaks protest on Sunday
July 18, 2013

HOUSTON -- Houston’s police chief encouraged people to stay away from the areas of River Oaks, traditionally the city’s wealthiest neighborhood, where demonstrators plan to stage Sunday afternoon protests over the Trayvon Martin shooting case.
Demonstrators speaking out against the verdict plan to march through River Oaks, which they argue has a history of racial profiling. Meanwhile, a Facebook page is encouraging gun owners with concealed handgun permits to bring their weapons to a counterdemonstration.
“I understand the frustration on both sides of the issue,” said Chief Charles McClelland. “I understand it’s a very volatile issue.”
Nonetheless, McClelland says he expects the demonstration to be peaceful. So do the organizers of the protest, who’ve already staged two other major demonstrations earlier this week.
“We expect a peaceful protest,” said Quannel X, who’s organizing the demonstration. “And I’m encouraging everybody who marches with us to remember the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and how he protested. Let’s follow those same instructions. Let’s follow that same legacy. And let’s not do anything that would bring shame to the memory of Trayvon Martin and our cause of justice.”
But the man who set up that Facebook page under an assumed name said he’s received death threats, so many of them he’s not sure whether he himself will attend the counterdemonstration.
“I’m not sure,” he said. “If we quit, what does that show about America?”
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 19, 2013, 08:03:59 AM
http://www.click2houston.com/news/two-zimmerman-verdict-demonstrations-to-be-held-this-weekend-in-river-oaks/-/1735978/21040060/-/cvb06h/-/index.html
Two Zimmerman verdict demonstrations to be held this weekend in River Oaks
One group plans to show its support for George Zimmerman, while the other is still seething about the verdict

July 19, 2013

HOUSTON -
Houston Police Chief Charles A. McClelland Jr. says his department is gearing up to keep people safe and protect property during two demonstrations scheduled to take place Sunday in River Oaks.

One march is being held by community activist Quanell X and his followers, who are still seething about the verdict in the George Zimmerman trial.

However, another group plans to show its support for Zimmerman, and on Facebook, the organizer is urging people to show up with their weapons, if they have concealed handgun licenses.

"As for people's fear for counter protestors who may be armed, I understand that fear and fears reasonable," said the chief during a meeting with reporters. "However, this is Texas. People can carry their handgun if they have a concealed handgun license and I have no authority to stop them."

HPD has reached out to both organizations planning to rally in an effort to calm tensions and ease fear of River Oaks residents.
 ::snipping3::

On Saturday, several Houston churches plan to hold a peaceful rally at Houston city hall.

This is part of a 100 city movement organized by Reverend Al Sharpton of the National Action Network.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 19, 2013, 09:05:43 AM
Why should the President get involved any more thn he already has in this case?
He better not or he will get himself in a heap of  backlash.
There is a survey on twitter asking if Obama should get involved and I think it was 91% said NO!


If I can find the survey, I'll do my best to make it 92%.

Lol...I voted as well. R u on twitter?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 19, 2013, 10:14:31 AM
http://www.click2houston.com/news/questions-raised-in-houston-after-zimmerman-protests/-/1735978/21020334/-/hdem3dz/-/index.html
Questions raised in Houston after Zimmerman protests
Some are asking why the demonstrators who blocked a highway weren't arrested

July 17, 2013

HOUSTON -
Questions are being raised in Houston after this week's protests against George Zimmerman's acquittal.

A woman on her way to the hospital says protesters went too far when they gathered on Highway 288.

It was a massive protest Monday evening. Dozens of people marched to voice their anger that a jury in Florida acquitted Zimmerman in connection with the shooting death of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin. The demonstrators ended up blocking traffic on Highway 288 near Southmore.

"They were screaming and hollering and surrounding us beating on the car. It wasn't peaceful. It was terrifying," said Georgia.
She and her family were caught in the middle trying to get to Texas Children's Hospital because her granddaughter was sick. But as they tried to make their way, a Local 2 photographer caught the incident on camera and the video has gone viral.

Georgia and her family were in a black Explorer when a man in a striped shirt reached in and tried to grab her while another protester tries to pull the man away.

"Groups have a right in this country to protest in civil lawful means," said Houston City Council Member Clarence Bradford.

At city council Wednesday, several people commended police for how they've handled the marches.  Still, people are asking why the man in the striped shirt and others who blocked traffic weren't arrested.

"I call on those protesting, demonstrating to do it, but keep in mind we do have a rule of law in our country and our city.," Bradford said.

"It is the responsibility of the officers on the scene to take into take into consideration what is the best way to diffuse the scene," said Mayor Annise Parker.

Georgia has filed a police report and the case is being investigated. Meanwhile, community activist Quanell X, who is planning another rally on Sunday, says he has warned marchers to remain peaceful.

"The Houston police doesn't have a right to commit mass arrest unless we are massively breaking the law and protest under my leadership that would not be happening," Quanell X said.
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Video at link.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 19, 2013, 02:37:28 PM
Video at the link

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-president-obama-addresses-george-zimmerman-verdict-trayvon-couldve-been-me/

Watch: President Obama Addresses George Zimmerman Verdict: ‘Trayvon Could’ve Been Me’
by Tommy Christopher | 2:07 pm, July 19th, 2013

Although he released a statement shortly after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the killing of Trayvon Martin, President Obama addressed the issue head on, for the first time, in remarks prior to Jay Carney’s daily White House briefing. For those who wondered if the President would meet the touchy issues of race surrounding the case squarely, the answer is yes. Expanding on his remarks following Trayvon’s killing, the President told reporters “Trayvon could’ve been me, 35 years ago.”

The President sent his thoughts and prayers to Trayvon Martin’s family, and praised them for the “incredible grace and dignity with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation.”

But he quickly got into the heart of the matter, explaining that “When Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.”

He discussed the shared ways in which the black community senses racial suspicion. “There are, frankly, very few African-American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street, and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars,” he said. “That happened to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often. And I don’t want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African-American community interprets what happened one night in Florida.”

The President also addressed the “history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws,” while also pointing out that “African-American young men are disproportionately involved in criminal justice system, that they’re disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence,” adding that “It’s not to make excuses for that fact, although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.”

President Obama said that the missing context in discussions about the criminal justice system “contributes, I think, to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that from top to bottom both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different.”

He then outlined a series of broad goals, including training law enforcement to be conscious of racial bias, examining laws such as “Stand Your Ground,” and supporting young African-American boys.

The President also talked about starting a conversation about race, but may have surprised some by saying “You know, there has been talk about should we convene a conversation on race? I haven’t seen that be particularly productive. When politicians try to organize conversations, they end up being stilted and politicized, and folks are locked into the positions they already have.”
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 19, 2013, 02:46:27 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/georgezimmermantrial/article/320594/568/Mark-OMara-George-Zimmerman-verdict-the-same-without-Stand-Your-Ground

Mark O'Mara: George Zimmerman verdict the same without Stand Your Ground
1:56 PM, Jul 19, 2013

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Mark O'Mara says even if Florida didn't have a Stand Your Ground Law on the books, George Zimmerman would still have been found not guilty in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

"This is not a Stand Your Ground case, never was, it was traditional self defense," O'Mara said Thursday in his first one-on-one interview with a Tampa television station since Saturday's verdict.

"We never mentioned the words 'Stand Your Ground' in our defense presentation or in our arguments," O'Mara told WTSP Reporter Preston Rudie.

"In any one of our states, this verdict would have been the same."
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on July 19, 2013, 03:14:02 PM
It is really disheartening when politicians and leaders in this country incite racism and divisiveness.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2013, 03:52:55 PM
It is really disheartening when politicians and leaders in this country incite racism and divisiveness.


Allen West “I have had it with the politics of race baiters who use iambic pentameter sing-song speech to anesthetized blacks from the reality of their demise.”
Posted by allenwestrepublic on July 18, 2013


Twelve hours from now Ms. Mackenzie Weinger of Politico will interview me on the subject of Al Sharpton’s role in the media in connection with the Trayvon Martin case. My response will be based upon this quote from Booker T. Washington, circa 1911, “There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” Now, I do not know the agenda of Ms. Weinger. However, as I watch the destruction of the black community in America, I have had it with the politics of race baiters who use iambic pentameter sing-song speech to anesthetized blacks from the reality of their demise.

http://allenwestrepublic.com/2013/07/18/allen-west-i-have-had-it-with-the-politics-of-race-baiters-who-use-iambic-pentameter-sing-song-speech-to-anesthetized-blacks-from-the-reality-of-their-demise/




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2013, 04:04:44 PM
Allen West: 'Race-baiters' pushing Trayvon
7/17/13


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“If we want to have these media frenzy-created crises, or someone like an Al Sharpton running around all over the country like a charlatan that he is, then we’re not talking about the real issues and we’re not having the real conversations about race,” West said. “We’re never going to have an honest conversation when you have someone like Attorney General Eric Holder that stands up in front of the NAACP and basically says, you know, we’re going to manipulate the law to give you your quote-unquote social justice.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/trayvon-martin-allen-west-94345.html



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/georgezimmermantrial/article/320594/568/Mark-OMara-George-Zimmerman-verdict-the-same-without-Stand-Your-Ground

Mark O'Mara: George Zimmerman verdict the same without Stand Your Ground
1:56 PM, Jul 19, 2013

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Mark O'Mara says even if Florida didn't have a Stand Your Ground Law on the books, George Zimmerman would still have been found not guilty in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

"This is not a Stand Your Ground case, never was, it was traditional self defense," O'Mara said Thursday in his first one-on-one interview with a Tampa television station since Saturday's verdict.

"We never mentioned the words 'Stand Your Ground' in our defense presentation or in our arguments," O'Mara told WTSP Reporter Preston Rudie.

"In any one of our states, this verdict would have been the same."
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BOTTOM LINE!!!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2013, 05:33:00 PM
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

Booker T. Washington (1856-1915) - African American political leader, educator and author


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2013, 07:04:26 PM
Another Sharpton … another Holder … another Jackson …

Obama enters Martin debate with personal remarks, questions ‘stand-your-ground’
Published July 19, 2013


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The president delivered extensive remarks during a surprise appearance in the White House briefing room. He suggested race may have played a strong role in the case, saying that if a “white male teen” were involved, “both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different.”

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/19/obama-addresses-trayvon-martin-case-in-briefing-room/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 19, 2013, 08:12:59 PM
JUST LIKE ME

Obama enters Martin debate with personal remarks, questions ‘stand-your-ground’
Published July 19, 2013


<snipped>

He went far beyond his remarks a year ago in which he stirred controversy by saying if he had a son, he'd look like Martin.
"Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago," Obama said.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/19/obama-addresses-trayvon-martin-case-in-briefing-room/

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Reports of suspensions paint more complicated picture of Trayvon Martin
March 26, 2012

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-03-26/news/sfl-reports-of-suspensions-paint-more-complicated-picture-of-trayvon-martin-20120326_1_suspensions-jewelry-report

Judge Rules Whether Trayvon’s Alleged Past Drug Use And School Suspension Permitted In Zimmerman Trial
May 28th, 2013

http://www.mediaite.com/online/judge-rules-whether-trayvons-past-drug-use-and-school-suspension-permitted-in-zimmerman-trial/

Breaking – Jury will not get to see Trayvon fighting texts
July 10, 2013 at 9:15am

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/breaking-jury-will-not-get-to-see-trayvon-fighting-texts/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on July 19, 2013, 09:19:30 PM
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

Booker T. Washington (1856-1915) - African American political leader, educator and author

Exactly what I have been trying to say...but he was able to say it in a much better way.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 19, 2013, 11:40:31 PM
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/19/19563695-trayvon-martins-brother-interning-in-office-of-florida-congresswoman

Trayvon Martin's brother interning in office of Florida congresswoman
9 hours ago

The brother of Trayvon Martin, whose shooting death by George Zimmerman gained international attention over the past year, is currently serving as an intern for Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla., her office confirmed to NBC News.

A Florida jury found Zimmerman not guilty of of 2nd degree murder and manslaughter on July 13. Zimmerman says he shot the teen in self defense.

Martin’s brother Jahvaris Fulton attends Florida International University in Miami, Fla., according to his Twitter page.

Fulton, who testified in the case against Zimmerman, is interning at the Democratic congresswoman’s office in Miami Gardens.

According to Wilson's office, Fulton is also part of the 5000 Roll Models of Excellence Project. Founded by Wilson 20 years ago, the project is a drop-out prevention and mentoring program that addresses needs and issues facing at-risk boys in Miami-Dade schools.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 19, 2013, 11:58:52 PM
http://gzlegalcase.com/

Zimmerman Defense Comments on President Obama’s Remarks
on 19 July 2013.

We have listened to President Obama’s comments about the verdict in the Zimmerman Case. People are focusing on this quote: “Trayvon Martin could’ve been me 35 years ago.” To focus on this one line misses the nuances of the President’s message, which includes comments about how African Americans view the Zimmerman Case in the context of the history of racial disparity in America.

For more than a year, we have been listening to the conversation about this case -- from voices on every side -- and we have become very sensitive to the racial context that surrounds this case. We acknowledge Mr. Obama’s remarks regarding the frustration felt by some when viewed in context of our nation’s history, which includes racial insensitivities spanning generations, and existing even today, including within our criminal justice system.

While we acknowledge and understand the racial context of this case, we challenge people to look closely and dispassionately at the facts. We believe those who look at the facts of the case without prejudice will see that it is a clear case of self-defense, and we are certain that those who take a closer look at the kind of person George Zimmerman is -- something we understand the Department of Justice is currently doing -- we are confident they will find a young man with with a diverse ethnic and racial background who is not a racist, a man who is, in fact, sensitive to the complex racial history of our country.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 20, 2013, 01:16:21 AM
Video at the link

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2555412752001/robert-zimmerman-reacts-to-presidents-remarks-on-verdict/

Robert Zimmerman reacts to president's remarks on verdict
(July 19, 2013)



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 20, 2013, 01:25:43 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/trayvon-martin-parents-thank-barack-obama-94499.html

Trayvon Martin's parents thank Obama
7/19/13 4:43 PM EDT

The parents of Trayvon Martin released a statement thanking President Barack Obama after his surprise remarks about their son on Friday afternoon.

“We are deeply honored and moved that President Obama took the time to speak publicly and at length about our son Trayvon. The President’s comments give us great strength at this time. We are thankful for president Obama’s and Michelle’s prayers and we ask for your prayers as well as we continue to move forward,” said the statement, which was read on CNN by Jake Tapper.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 20, 2013, 11:37:45 AM
IN A NUTSHELL!!

MUST WATCH – Bill Whittle: The wretched lynching of George Zimmerman
The Right Scoop on July 20th, 2013
http://therightscoop.com/must-watch-bill-whittle-the-wretched-lynching-of-george-zimmerman/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 20, 2013, 12:45:31 PM
Just when America needed a leader and a real President, we go a community agitator ...

The Divider & Narcissist in Chief Barack Obama … Trayvon Martin Could Have Been Me (VIDEO & Transcript) … Obama Fans the Flames of Racism

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/20/the-divider-narcissist-in-chief-barack-obama-trayvon-martin-could-have-been-me-video-transcript-obama-fans-the-flames-of-racism/

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THE EPIC FAILURE KNOWN AS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA: The Race Baiter in Chief was at it again yesterday as he threw more fuel on the fire in the wake of the George Zimmerman murder trial “not guilty” verdict.

Barack Obama, the community agitator is at it again. Because in the end, it’s all about Barack Obama and if you are white, you are a racist. Take a good watch and listen to President Barack Obama’s comments from the VIDEO below. Obama basically called the jury of six woman in the George Zimmerman murder trial racists. UNBELIEVABLE. Because race relations are not bad enough in the United States under this presidency and following the Trayvon Martin shooting death as race baiter and race hustlers have made matters worse playing the race card at every opportune moment.

So why would we not think that Barack Obama, the first black president, the individual who was supposed to be a bridge between the races better … make things worse. This narcissist had to once again make it about Obama. Instead of Obama saying if he had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon Martin, this time Obama had to say … “Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.” How is it that a man is supposed to lead, diffuse the issues and be a president to all, instead just takes the easy way out and identifies with only one segment of society? Sorry, but Obama is a poor excuse of a president and a poor excuse of a human being. All he can do is attack his own racism and past to Trayvon Martin like a leach. Instead of understanding that some one has a right to protect themselves and self-defense, Obama continues to pile on and pander to the black community to make matters worse between races. Maybe because if they do, We the People will be too busy being at each others throats to pay attention to his epic failure of a presidency? Oh, and by the way Mr. President, George Zimmerman WAS NOT WHITE!!!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 20, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
Did Barack Obama add fuel to the fire ....

Janet

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Obama: 'Trayvon Martin could have been me'
July 19, 2013


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African-Americans feel the context of the Martin killing is little known or denied, "and that all contributes, I think, to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different," Obama said.

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/19/politics/obama-zimmerman/index.html


'Justice for Trayvon' rallies set for 100 cities
Published July 20, 2013


<snipped>

Zimmerman did not invoke Florida's stand-your-ground law, instead relying on a traditional self-defense argument. Nor was race discussed in front of the jury that acquitted Zimmerman. But the two topics have dominated public discourse about the case, and came up throughout Saturday's rallies.

<snipped>

Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/20/justice-for-trayvon-rallies-set-for-100-cities/?test=latestnews


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 20, 2013, 04:52:26 PM
They both like ugly women.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 20, 2013, 07:42:31 PM
Kevin Jackson: Black people lock their car doors too when they see a horde of black teens coming…
The Right Scoop on July 20th, 2013

http://therightscoop.com/kevin-jackson-black-people-lock-their-car-doors-too-when-they-see-a-horde-of-black-teens-coming/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on July 21, 2013, 12:52:51 PM
It is really disheartening when politicians and leaders in this country incite racism and divisiveness.

It is so sad that Sharpton and Jackson need their jobs so bad they don't care what is right or wrong.
And now, Rev. Sharpton with a girl who could be his granddaughter.  Good job Reverend for setting an example.  JMO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Green Eyes on July 21, 2013, 02:01:48 PM
It is really disheartening when politicians and leaders in this country incite racism and divisiveness.

It is so sad that Sharpton and Jackson need their jobs so bad they don't care what is right or wrong.
And now, Rev. Sharpton with a girl who could be his granddaughter.  Good job Reverend for setting an example.  JMO

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 21, 2013, 02:18:47 PM
Sharptonite Protesters Cheer Reverend Al Sharpton and Jeer Fox News & Geraldo Rivera at Trayvon Martin Rally in Harlem, NY … Is Geraldo a “White” Hispanic As Well?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/21/sharptonite-protesters-cheer-reverand-al-sharpton-and-jeer-fox-news-geraldo-rivera-at-trayvon-martin-rally-in-harlem-ny-is-geraldo-a-white-hispanic-as-well/

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Let me see if I understand this. Isn’t the outrage from those that claim there was no justice for Trayvon when a jury came back with a verdict of “not guilty” in the George Zimmerman murder trial that Trayvon Marin was profiled and had every right to be where he was and was minding his own business? Doesn’t Geraldo have a right to be at a protest and it would seem that he was a guest of Al Sharpton and had no camera crew there, he was just an attendee. Rather duplicitous by the mob, don’t you think? But then again, only Kool-aid drinking folks are allowed at such gatherings. I guess the Al Sharpton crowd just can’t handle the truth and are bitter at Rivera’s comments that Al Sharpton and race politics drove this case and the murder charges against George Zimmerman. I guess the Sharpton crowd thinks that Geraldo Rivera is a “creepy ass cracker” as well.
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Double standard and Irony. Those that claim that Trayvon Martin had a right to be walking through the gated community in Florida are the same ones who are bitching that Geraldo & Fox News cannot be at this public get-together. Hmm.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 21, 2013, 02:22:48 PM
What a Joke … Chicago Holds Rally for Justice for Trayvon Martin as Their City is a Killing Fields for Blacks … 61 Murders Took Place in Chicago During Zimmerman Trial

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/20/what-a-joke-chicago-holds-rally-for-justice-for-trayvon-martin-as-their-city-is-a-killing-fields-for-blacks-61-murders-took-place-in-chicago-during-zimmerman-trial/

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Really Chicago, do the protesters really want to know who’s next? Is enough really enough? Who are these people kidding? Are they just in denial or do they really not pay attention to current affairs or what is going on in their own back yard? Do the people of Chicago even comprehend that there were 61 murders in Chicago, Illinois while the George Zimmerman murder trial was taking place? 61!!! Why is it that President Barack Obama has nothing to say to the black community about blacks killing blacks? Instead, it’s about racism. For some reason, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Barack Obama, the Congressional Black Caucus and the rest who show up to rallies for Trayvon Martin and his death calling for “justice” seem to care little about the real crime and issues that threaten blacks and black teens. Do they really want to break the cycle, or just find excuses to blame others?

But instead it being about the “Killing Fields” of Chicago, they make it all about George Zimmerman and focusing on a teen that was killed in self defense, so says the jury.
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Weekend violence leaves 9 dead, 47 shot
2 dead, 2 wounded in overnight shootings
Man killed in Southwest Side shooting, teen found fatally shot
Fourth Of July Violence In Chicago: Homicide Rate Passes 200 After Long Holiday Weekend Of Shootings
Records show four children gunned down in Chicago during Zimmerman trial
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 21, 2013, 06:30:15 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-unfinished-business-20130721,0,1523006.story

George Zimmerman's trial over, but legal fights aren't
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
July 21, 2013

George Zimmerman's murder trial is over — but not the legal wrangling.

Moments after the six-member jury found that Zimmerman did not commit a crime when he killed Trayvon Martin, Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson told the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer: "You have no further business with the court."

But Nelson has two issues yet to decide: how long to keep juror names a secret and whether to fine prosecutors for behavior that defense attorneys say was unethical.

Two other judges are overseeing separate civil cases spawned by the shooting, one by Zimmerman, who accuses NBCUniversal Media of defaming him, and one by his former bodyguards, who allege he owes them $27,000.

There also is the perjury case pending against Zimmerman's wife, Shellie.

Here are details about what to expect:
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 21, 2013, 07:28:50 PM
The three possible lawsuits:
  The United States v. George Zimmerman
  Martin, Fulton, et. al. v. George Zimmerman
  George Zimmerman v. NBC Universal, et. al.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/07/next-three-trials-george-zimmerman/67178/

The Next Three Trials of George Zimmerman
Jul 15, 2013

George Zimmerman has not seen his last courtroom. There are at least three other legal actions possible involving the man acquitted of murder in the killing of Trayvon Martin—two of which would see Zimmerman again in the role of defendant. In at least one of those, Zimmerman might justifiably be nervous about his chances. But he may go three-for-three.

The three possible lawsuits:
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 21, 2013, 07:36:02 PM
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/floridas-self-defense-immunity-law-how-it-really-works/

Florida’s Self-Defense Immunity Law: How it really works
Posted by Andrew Branca    Thursday, July 18, 2013 at 12:00pm

In 2005 the Florida legislator enacted statute 776.032. “Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.” This immunity statute is often erroneously referred to as Florida’s Stand-Your-Ground (SYG) law, even by lawyers, judges, and law professors who ought to know better (MSM journalists I forgive for such errors, as their profession fairly demands ignorance). In fact, SYG is a different statute entirely, 776.013(3)
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 21, 2013, 07:39:14 PM
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/self-defense-immunity-laws-which-states-protect-you-best/

Self-Defense Immunity Laws: Which States Protect You Best?
Posted by Andrew Branca    Friday, July 19, 2013 at 6:31pm

Now that the Zimmerman criminal trial has concluded, much attention has focused on the prospects for Zimmerman seeking protection under Florida’s self-defense immunity statute from any possible civil action against him.

Florida’s statute 776.032, is among the broader self-defense immunity statutes, in that it possesses all four qualities of an optimal statute of this type.

First, it is not limited to particular settings or circumstances (e.g., such as to self-defense encounters in and around one’s home).

Second, it prohibits even the arrest of the person who acted in self-defense, in the absence of probable cause for such arrest.

Third, it immunizes against criminal as well as civil liability.

And, fourth, it provides for the defendant who successfully obtains immunity to recover all reasonable legal expenses (and, in the case of Florida, even compensation for lost income) from the plaintiff.

Fully 32 states provide some degree of limitation of liability for the individual who has genuinely acted in self-defense, but there is considerable variety in terms of the scope and manner of protection provided.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 21, 2013, 08:26:43 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324448104578618681599902640.html

OPINION July 21, 2013, 7:38 p.m. ET.
The Decline of the Civil-Rights Establishment
By SHELBY STEELE

The verdict that declared George Zimmerman not guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin was a traumatic event for America's civil-rights establishment, and for many black elites across the media, government and academia. When you have grown used to American institutions being so intimidated by the prospect of black wrath that they invent mushy ideas like "diversity" and "inclusiveness" simply to escape that wrath, then the crisp reading of the law that the Zimmerman jury displayed comes as a shock.

On television in recent weeks you could see black leaders from every background congealing into a chorus of umbrage and complaint. But they weren't so much outraged at a horrible injustice as they were affronted by the disregard of their own authority. The jury effectively said to them, "You won't call the tune here. We will work within the law."

Today's black leadership pretty much lives off the fumes of moral authority that linger from its glory days in the 1950s and '60s. The Zimmerman verdict lets us see this and feel a little embarrassed for them. Consider the pathos of a leadership that once transformed the nation now lusting for the conviction of the contrite and mortified George Zimmerman, as if a stint in prison for him would somehow assure more peace and security for black teenagers everywhere. This, despite the fact that nearly one black teenager a day is shot dead on the South Side of Chicago—to name only one city—by another black teenager.

This would not be the first time that a movement begun in profound moral clarity, and that achieved greatness, waned away into a parody of itself—not because it was wrong but because it was successful. Today's civil-rights leaders have missed the obvious: The success of their forbearers in achieving social transformation denied to them the heroism that was inescapable for a Martin Luther King Jr. or a James Farmer or a Nelson Mandela. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton cannot write a timeless letter to us from a Birmingham jail or walk, as John Lewis did in 1965, across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Ala., into a maelstrom of police dogs and billy clubs. That America is no longer here (which is not to say that every trace of it is gone).

The Revs. Jackson and Sharpton have been consigned to a hard fate: They can never be more than redundancies, echoes of the great men they emulate because America has changed. Hard to be a King or Mandela today when your monstrous enemy is no more than the cherubic George Zimmerman.
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Post by: Tamikosmom on July 21, 2013, 09:29:36 PM
Barkley: I agree with Martin verdict
JUL 19, 2013

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/charles-barkley-says-he-agrees-with-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-not-guilty-verdict-071813


Speaker at Trayvon Martin Rally in Seattle, WA Calls for Boycott of Charles Barkley
Posted July 21, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/21/speaker-at-trayvon-martin-rally-in-seattle-wa-calls-for-boycott-of-charles-barkley/


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Post by: Tamikosmom on July 21, 2013, 09:43:15 PM



When the Facebook comment of Tristan Breaux ... president of the Norfolk NAACP ... is consider ... it would would appear that Benjamin Todd is not speaking on behalf of of all of NAACP membership with his request to involved the Obama administration.  In other words ... common sense does prevail in the Black community.

Janet

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NAACP asking Obama administration to pursue civil case against Zimmerman
Published July 14, 2013


The NAACP is asking the Justice Department to open a civil rights case against George Zimmerman, the Florida neighborhood watch captain acquitted Saturday night by a jury in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous started the drive by posting a petition Sunday morning on the website MoveOn.org that is addressed to Attorney General Eric Holder

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/14/naacp-asking-obama-administration-to-pursue-zimmerman-civil-case/


Norfolk NAACP president under fire for Facebook post
July 13, 2013


NORFOLK

A Facebook post by the president of the Norfolk NAACP about the George Zimmerman trial has sparked criticism.

According to an image of the post shown on WAVY-TV, Tristan Breaux, 25, wrote, "I wonder why is it that we are always willing to say someone who clearly had a shaky past, was the victim. Are we blinded about why Trayvon was at his dad's house in the first place, and why he wasn't at home at the time he was shot? Please think logically and not racially."

Several local NAACP members asked Breaux to take the post down, and he initially refused, said Jeffrey Logan, a former member of the local chapter's executive committee.

The post went up last week. Breaux's Facebook page is no longer visible.

"With a sensitive issue like this, for an NAACP president to post that - it's not a good thing," said former Norfolk NAACP President Bob Rawls.

Logan and Rawls said Breaux should resign his position.

Members of the branch's executive committee said they have no plans to seek his removal.

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Read more:
http://hamptonroads.com/2013/07/norfolk-naacp-president-under-fire-facebook-post


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Post by: grace-land on July 21, 2013, 09:52:22 PM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/07/21/aclu-reverses-stand-zimmerman-civil-rights-inquiry-change-heart-or-media

ACLU Reverses Stand on Zimmerman Civil Rights Inquiry; Change of Heart or Media Manipulation?
By Tom Blumer | July 21, 2013 | 18:22
 
The TalkLeft blog noted last night that the American Civil Liberties Union, after encouraging U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to pursue civil rights charges against George Zimmerman the day after he was acquitted in the death of Trayvon Martin, reversed course just four days later.

Though it's no longer available at its national web site, the Associated Press ran the organization's press release. Various searches at the AP's national web site indicate that there has been no coverage of the organization's reversal. Several center-right blogs have noted the reversal, but no one in the establishment press besides Josh Gerstein at the Politico, where stories the rest of the establishment press would prefer to ignore tend to go and all too often die, has noted it. So did the organization have a change of heart? Or did it attempt to manipulate its media exposure with a politically correct initial press release followed by a legally and constitutionally correct reversal it hopes few will notice?

Here's the ACLU's original statement as relayed by AP (headline is AP's; ACLU's web site statement is here; bolds are mine throughout this post):

The American Civil Liberties Union calling for action after the George Zimmerman verdict

American Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Anthony D. Romero released the following statement on the not guilty verdict in the trial of George Zimmerman:

"Today, our thoughts are with Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, whose young son was taken from them far too soon.

Last night's verdict casts serious doubt on whether the legal system truly provides equal protection of the laws to everyone regardless of race or ethnicity.

This case reminds us that it is imperative that the Department of Justice thoroughly examine whether the Martin shooting was a federal civil rights violation or hate crime. We call on Attorney General Eric Holder to release strengthened guidance on the use of race in federal law enforcement. We also urge Congress to pass the End Racial Profiling Act. These specific actions would go a long way to ameliorate the widespread problem of racial profiling. We need solutions not only in Trayvon Martin's case, but also systemic reform."

Here is the first paragraph of the organization's reversal, in the form of a direct letter to Holder:

   We are writing to clearly state the ACLU’s position on whether or not the Department of Justice (DOJ) should consider bringing federal civil rights or hate crimes charges as a result of the state court acquittal in the George Zimmerman case. Even though the Supreme Court permits a federal prosecution following a state prosecution, the ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution protects someone from being prosecuted in another court for charges arising from the same transaction. A jury found Zimmerman not guilty, and that should be the end of the criminal case.

One clue that the group would rather not talk about its position any more is at its "This Week in Civil Liberties" blog post.
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Post by: grace-land on July 21, 2013, 09:57:58 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/for-the-aclu-george-zimmerman-case-is-awkward-deja-vu-94518.html

For the ACLU, George Zimmerman case is awkward déjà vu
By JOSH GERSTEIN | 7/21/13 6:59 AM EDT

The American Civil Liberties Union is experiencing some uncomfortable déjà vu.

George Zimmerman’s acquittal in the shooting death of black teenager Trayvon Martin has triggered the specter of an awkward and often raucous debate the group thought it had put behind itself two decades ago.

After the 1992 acquittal of Los Angeles police officers in the videotaped beating of African-American Rodney King, ACLU leaders split sharply over the possibility of a federal trial for the officers. The group eventually suspended its policy opposing double jeopardy — only to reverse itself the following year.

A New York Times editorial back then called the ACLU “torn by internal disagreement.” A Boston Globe column described the organization as “twisting itself up in knots.”
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Post by: Tamikosmom on July 21, 2013, 09:58:27 PM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/07/21/aclu-reverses-stand-zimmerman-civil-rights-inquiry-change-heart-or-media

ACLU Reverses Stand on Zimmerman Civil Rights Inquiry; Change of Heart or Media Manipulation?
By Tom Blumer | July 21, 2013 | 18:22
 
The TalkLeft blog noted last night that the American Civil Liberties Union, after encouraging U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to pursue civil rights charges against George Zimmerman the day after he was acquitted in the death of Trayvon Martin, reversed course just four days later.

Though it's no longer available at its national web site, the Associated Press ran the organization's press release. Various searches at the AP's national web site indicate that there has been no coverage of the organization's reversal. Several center-right blogs have noted the reversal, but no one in the establishment press besides Josh Gerstein at the Politico, where stories the rest of the establishment press would prefer to ignore tend to go and all too often die, has noted it. So did the organization have a change of heart? Or did it attempt to manipulate its media exposure with a politically correct initial press release followed by a legally and constitutionally correct reversal it hopes few will notice?

Here's the ACLU's original statement as relayed by AP (headline is AP's; ACLU's web site statement is here; bolds are mine throughout this post):

The American Civil Liberties Union calling for action after the George Zimmerman verdict

American Civil Liberties Union Executive Director Anthony D. Romero released the following statement on the not guilty verdict in the trial of George Zimmerman:

"Today, our thoughts are with Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, whose young son was taken from them far too soon.

Last night's verdict casts serious doubt on whether the legal system truly provides equal protection of the laws to everyone regardless of race or ethnicity.

This case reminds us that it is imperative that the Department of Justice thoroughly examine whether the Martin shooting was a federal civil rights violation or hate crime. We call on Attorney General Eric Holder to release strengthened guidance on the use of race in federal law enforcement. We also urge Congress to pass the End Racial Profiling Act. These specific actions would go a long way to ameliorate the widespread problem of racial profiling. We need solutions not only in Trayvon Martin's case, but also systemic reform."

Here is the first paragraph of the organization's reversal, in the form of a direct letter to Holder:

   We are writing to clearly state the ACLU’s position on whether or not the Department of Justice (DOJ) should consider bringing federal civil rights or hate crimes charges as a result of the state court acquittal in the George Zimmerman case. Even though the Supreme Court permits a federal prosecution following a state prosecution, the ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution protects someone from being prosecuted in another court for charges arising from the same transaction. A jury found Zimmerman not guilty, and that should be the end of the criminal case.

One clue that the group would rather not talk about its position any more is at its "This Week in Civil Liberties" blog post.
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Thanks Grace.  This is huge!

The entire ACLU letter can be accessed at the following link.

Janet


http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/aclu_letter_to_ag_holder_re_gzimmerman_case.pdf


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Post by: grace-land on July 22, 2013, 01:52:16 AM
http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/21/legal-experts-dojs-zimmerman-tip-line-merely-gives-impression-that-agency-is-acting/

Legal experts: DOJ’s Zimmerman tip line merely gives impression that agency is acting
11:09 PM 07/21/2013

A range of legal experts think that the Department of Justice’s attempts to collect information from the public on George Zimmerman is a way to pass responsibility for investigating the man onto the public, as well as to give the impression that the agency is acting.
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The FBI and DOJ investigated Zimmerman last year, canvassing dozens of neighbors, friends, and acquaintances to determine if he was racist. Chris Serino, the lead investigator on the Martin shooting, said that he believed that Zimmerman had profiled Martin based upon his attire and “not his skin color”.

Federal investigators closed the investigation without finding any evidence to support the claim that Zimmerman was racist. During the trial, Judge Debra Nelson refused to allow state prosecutors to argue that Zimmerman racially profiled Martin leading up to the shooting. Zimmerman’s defense also flipped racism claims around on Martin, suggesting that by allegedly calling Zimmerman a “creepy ass cracker,” his assault on Zimmerman may have been racially-motivated.
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Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz told TheDC that he believes the DOJ’s recent move is “highly questionable”. He asked, rhetorically, “Are they also investigating Martin’s background to see whether he attacked anyone previously?”

Ilya Shapiro, a legal scholar at the Cato Institute, called the investigation “a waste of resources.” “It seems to me that this is just the DOJ trying to be seen as doing something,” he told The DC.

The Civil Rights division of the Department of Justice has used the email tip method in the past. For example, in November 2012 it set up an email address to investigate the Albuquerque, New Mexico police department which was alleged to have high incidents of excessive use of force.

In October 2012, the DOJ set up a tip line to investigate complaints that officials in Meridian, Mississippi were discriminating against juveniles and creating a “school-to-prison pipeline” which targeted African-American students.

And in September 2012, the department began investigating the Alamance County, North Carolina sheriff’s department  for allegedly profiling Latinos.

A spokesperson for the Department of Justice would not provide details of the special email account other than to acknowledge its existence. TheDC was unable to determine if the DOJ had ever used such an account to pursue an investigation against a private citizen who’d been acquitted of a crime.
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Post by: alagary on July 22, 2013, 03:14:12 AM
(http://americandigest.org/sidelines/obama-trayvon.jpg)    (http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Holder-300x279.jpg)


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Post by: alagary on July 22, 2013, 08:13:07 AM
 7 am Drudge Report has one Martin link about Obamas' speech

CNN has one op-ed article

Fox News one article about Florida boycott

NBC Today Show  7:15 and no mention yet



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Post by: alagary on July 22, 2013, 08:44:12 AM
(http://moonbattery.com/george-zimmerman_ben-ghazi.jpg)



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Post by: Tamikosmom on July 22, 2013, 12:56:11 PM
Kevin Jackson: Obama has responsibility to talk about race, how blacks are more successful now than ever before
The Right Scoop on July 22nd, 2013


Kevin Jackson says that he doesn’t believe Obama has had the racial ‘experiences’ he claimed last Friday, saying that Obama is just trying to gin up racism. The fact that Obama spoke out, he said, on a case as innocuous as the Zimmerman case just shows how much racial tension he wants to create.

He does believe Obama has a special responsibility to talk about race, but from the perspective of how great America really is and that blacks have been successful in every walk of life in this country.

Watch:

http://therightscoop.com/kevin-jackson-obama-has-responsibility-to-talk-about-race-how-blacks-are-more-successful-now-than-ever-before/

http://theblacksphere.net/


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Post by: alagary on July 22, 2013, 01:04:04 PM
7/22/13     George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue

Sanford Police Department Capt. Jim McAuliffe told ABC News that Zimmerman "pulled an individual from a truck that had rolled over" at the intersection of a Florida highway last week. Florida Highway Patrol is now handling the case, McAuliffe said.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route 417, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where he shot Martin.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432


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Post by: Tamikosmom on July 22, 2013, 01:05:49 PM
Kevin Jackson Responds to Obama’s Racist Comments (video)
July 20, 2013


Kevin Jackson was interviewed by Tucker Carlson of Fox News regarding Obama’s “impromptu” drive-by at the recent White House press briefing, and he didn’t disappoint.

Jackson asked if Obama would like Trayvon to date his daughters, and also offered that Obama was trying to get back some “street cred” from blacks. See the interview here.

http://theblacksphere.net/2013/07/kevin-jackson-responds-to-obamas-racist-comments/




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Post by: cookie on July 22, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
7/22/13     George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue

Sanford Police Department Capt. Jim McAuliffe told ABC News that Zimmerman "pulled an individual from a truck that had rolled over" at the intersection of a Florida highway last week. Florida Highway Patrol is now handling the case, McAuliffe said.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route 417, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where he shot Martin.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432

Was the saved person black? God knows there will b discussion on whether this story is legit or not... Eye roll here


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 22, 2013, 01:12:24 PM
Was the wanna be paramedic following the truck?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 22, 2013, 01:32:37 PM
“Do you know that Negroes are 10 percent of the population of St. Louis and are responsible for 58% of its crimes? We’ve got to face that. And we’ve got to do something about our moral standards,” DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. TOLD A CONGREGATION IN 1961. “We know that there are many things wrong in the white world, but there are many things wrong in the black world, too. We can’t keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves.”


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Post by: Tamikosmom on July 22, 2013, 01:34:36 PM
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

Booker T. Washington (1856-1915) - African American political leader, educator and author


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 22, 2013, 03:32:02 PM
7/22/13   George Zimmerman helped rescue family from overturned SUV, cops say
 


A Ford Explorer sport utility vehicle had gone off the road and rolled over in the area of Interstate 4 and State Road 46, Smith said, with two children and their parents inside.

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By the time a deputy arrived, Zimmerman and another man "had already helped assist the family by getting them out of the overturned vehicle," Smith said.

"Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after making contact with the deputy," Smith said in an emailed statement. "There were no report of injuries to the vehicle occupants."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-truck-rescue-20130722,0,6349930.story


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Post by: alagary on July 22, 2013, 03:34:16 PM
oops  edit please


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Post by: islandmonkey on July 22, 2013, 04:33:20 PM
7/22/13     George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue

Sanford Police Department Capt. Jim McAuliffe told ABC News that Zimmerman "pulled an individual from a truck that had rolled over" at the intersection of a Florida highway last week. Florida Highway Patrol is now handling the case, McAuliffe said.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route 417, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where he shot Martin.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432

Was the saved person black? God knows there will b discussion on whether this story is legit or not... Eye roll here

Omg - I was seriously wondering the exact thing?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: islandmonkey on July 22, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
7/22/13     George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue

Sanford Police Department Capt. Jim McAuliffe told ABC News that Zimmerman "pulled an individual from a truck that had rolled over" at the intersection of a Florida highway last week. Florida Highway Patrol is now handling the case, McAuliffe said.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route 417, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where he shot Martin.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432

Was the saved person black? God knows there will b discussion on whether this story is legit or not... Eye roll here

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/22/3514507/george-zimmerman-pulls-family.htm

Wow - no matter the race cookie , we called it. Read this story and the comments. In-freaking believable ( yet not !!!). Our country is going to hell in a hand basket.


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Post by: grace-land on July 22, 2013, 05:58:46 PM
July 22, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
Here's the responding SCSO deputy's narrative from the traffic accident report: "On 7/17/13 at 1747 hours, I (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rlgosv

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  15m 
We've listened to the 911 calls reporting the crash. Most are short. No apparent #GeorgeZimmerman mentions, though parts are redacted.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  23m 
Correction: Some silences I thought were redactions seem to have been buffering issues. Calls are redacted, but I wouldn't say heavily.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  26m 
Caller 2 reports SUV seemed to catch fire: "It's smoking pretty bad... it's on its side... Everyone seems to be OK." #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  27m 
911 caller 2: "We got everyone out of the car.... are you OK?" No mentions yet of #GeorgeZimmerman, but calls are heavily redacted.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  31m 
Another 911 caller describes crash, says "they're getting them out of the car right now." Parts of the calls are redacted. #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  35m 
SCSO has also released eight 911 calls reporting the crash. Listening now. No mention of #GeorgeZimmerman in 1st call.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  43m 
Per @SeminoleSO: Driver & passenger helped by #GeorgeZimmerman "are not interested" in speaking to media about crash.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  45m 
Because several had asked: The report indicates the driver and passenger of the SUV are white. Dates of birth & most contact info redacted.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  46m 
Per @SeminoleSO report, SUV lost control on an SR 417 off-ramp at SR 400. Vehicle rolled over. No mention of #GeorgeZimmerman in report.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  48m 
Breaking: @SeminoleSO releases report from rollover crash #GeorgeZimmerman assisted with. Details to come.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 22, 2013, 06:53:35 PM
Open tweet of conversation

July 22, 2013 Tweets

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  13m 
@JRoth99 Yes, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office confirmed earlier today. I tweeted their statement: http://bit.ly/19efMOm
Hide tweet   

Jeff Weiner@JeffWeinerOS

Here's @SeminoleSO's statement on #GeorgeZimmerman's involvement in rescuing a family from a crash last (cont) tl.gd/n_1rlglfj (http://tl.gd/n_1rlglfj)

22 Jul 13


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Post by: Tamikosmom on July 22, 2013, 07:36:02 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Former DOJ official: Civil rights unit sent to mediate anti-Zimmerman protests has history of advocacy
10:56 PM 07/21/2013


The Department of Justice civil rights unit sent to Sanford, Florida in 2012 to mediate the anti-George Zimmerman protests has a history of putting racial advocacy ahead of its mandated duties, according to a former head of the unit.

“At CRS headquarters, we (meaning I) regularly had to warn or take corrective action against career employees for acting as advocates instead of mediators,” Ondray Harris, the former director of the DOJ’s Community Relations Service (CRS), told The Daily Caller. CRS was the unit deployed to Sanford in 2012 to oversee anti-Zimmerman protests.

“Some CRS employees come to the Agency with anti-law enforcement or anti- what they would call the ‘white establishment’ [attitudes]” added Harris, an African American who joined CRS during the administration of George W. Bush in 2007 and left in 2010.

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“The mission of CRS is to provide violence prevention and conflict resolution services for community conflicts and tensions arising from differences of race, color, or national origin,” reads the mission statement of the agency, which was created by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. “CRS is the only federal service mandated to help state and local government agencies, public and private organizations, and community groups resolve and prevent community racial conflicts through the use of mediation, conciliation, and other conflict resolution approaches.”

But the problem with CRS, Harris said, is the conflict “between being mediators versus being advocates.”

Tommy Battles, the regional director of the CRS’ Southeast Region who deployed to Sanford in 2012, is “black, and very pro-black,” said Harris.

“When I was nominated by President Bush to the Director position at CRS, Tommy Battles came to headquarters to meet me. In our introduction, he said, ‘I want to see you do well because as a black man if you do well then I am doing well, and the whole race does well,’” Harris said. “I thought to myself: ‘are you kidding me? There’s no room for such racial favoritism here.’ Eventually, I became even more concerned as Battles and others would openly share their extremely pro-minority [views] at the expense of the majority views. I felt such views compromised implementing the CRS mandate.”

Read more:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/21/former-doj-official-civil-rights-unit-sent-to-mediate-anti-zimmerman-protests-has-history-of-advocacy/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 22, 2013, 10:38:53 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-evidence-fbi-20130722,0,3559428.story

Sanford police deliver George Zimmerman case evidence to FBI
6:53 p.m. EDT, July 22, 2013

Sanford police confirmed Monday they had delivered boxes of evidence from their investigation into George Zimmerman to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Orlando office.

Capt. Jim McAuliffe said the delivery — which includes the gun Zimmerman used to fatally shoot Trayvon Martin — was shipped to the FBI at its request.

The U.S. Department of Justice, which includes the FBI, opened an investigation shortly after the unarmed black teenager's death more than a year ago but has not filed any criminal charges.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 22, 2013, 10:44:59 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/man-arrested-for-george-zimmerman-facebook-post-2013-7

Guy Arrested For Facebook Post About The George Zimmerman Verdict
Jul. 22, 2013, 6:40 PM   

New York police have arrested a 20-year-old Queens man for allegedly making threats on Facebook after the George Zimmerman "not guilty" verdict came down last week.
 
It's the latest in a growing trend of police arresting people for what they post on Facebook.
 
After Zimmerman was acquitted on second-degree murder charges for the shooting death of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, Remel Newson allegedly posted a Facebook status saying "let's kill cops [and] neighborhood watcher" with the hashtag #killallwhites, WNYC reports. Police arrested him for making a "terroristic threat" and say they found marijuana during during a search of his room.
 
His attorney says Newson copied and pasted someone else's message and that he was "in no way was trying to intimidate anyone or coerce anyone into doing any illegal act."
 
Gothamist has posted the full text of Newson's status update for those interested in reading it (NSFW).
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 23, 2013, 12:07:40 AM
Seminole County Sheriff's Office
Sanford, Florida · seminolesheriff.org

July 17 and July 18, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/SeminoleSO (https://twitter.com/SeminoleSO)


Seminole County S.O. ‏@SeminoleSO 18 Jul
@SyndicatedNews @rtqlet @cnnlatino  INCORRECT - Approx. cost for jury seq $33K; prelim Sheriff's Office cost $320K  Not City of Sanford

 Seminole County S.O. ‏@SeminoleSO 18 Jul
Jury sequestration fact: Sheriff's Office did NOT pay for mani/pedis.  Jurors paid for their own personal appointments.

 Seminole County S.O. ‏@SeminoleSO 17 Jul
Sheriff's Office releases info on jury sequestration.  Read full news release here: http://tinyurl.com/6epwm6o


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 23, 2013, 01:00:32 AM
http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/22/mark-omara-on-george-zimmermans-recent-rescue-this-is-quintessential-george-this-is-the-person-who-i-knew-him-to-be/

July 22nd, 2013  11:24 PM ET
Mark O'Mara on George Zimmerman's recent rescue: "This is quintessential George...this is the person who I knew him to be"

 ::snipping3::
Filling in for Piers Morgan, guest host Chris Cuomo asked attorney Mark O'Mara for his reaction to his client's latest activities:

“This is quintessential George. This is the person who I knew him to be when I found out about his past before February 12. Just a guy who’s always involved in the community, always willing to, you know, lend a helping hand," O'Mara told Cuomo, as part of a live interview. "And, here we go, four days after the event, something that I could not have planned, but turned out to be just pure George.”

Digging back into the essence of the case, and the nationwide reaction that came as a result, Martin responded to the comments issued by Barack Obama from late last week:

“If you look at just the sound bite, I think it was inappropriate to suggest that thirty-five years ago, Trayvon could have been him or whatever," said the attorney, joining the program from Florida via satellite. "But, if you look at the complete context of what the president said, I think what he was acknowledging was that we still do have some issues of race, and the way there is a divide between the country, still. And, it’s a conversation that we need to have.”
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 23, 2013, 08:20:10 AM
7/22/13     George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding for Truck Crash Rescue

Sanford Police Department Capt. Jim McAuliffe told ABC News that Zimmerman "pulled an individual from a truck that had rolled over" at the intersection of a Florida highway last week. Florida Highway Patrol is now handling the case, McAuliffe said.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route 417, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where he shot Martin.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432



Was the saved person black? God knows there will b discussion on whether this story is legit or not... Eye roll here

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/22/3514507/george-zimmerman-pulls-family.htm

Wow - no matter the race cookie , we called it. Read this story and the comments. In-freaking believable ( yet not !!!). Our country is going to hell in a hand basket.

Yeppers


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 23, 2013, 09:05:03 AM
Rumor is the royal baby will be named in his honor. Or maybe I just plan to fill twitter with that rumor. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: sunshine12 on July 23, 2013, 09:13:47 AM
Rumor is the royal baby will be named in his honor. Or maybe I just plan to fill twitter with that rumor. ::MonkeyDevil::

that would be great! haha.  i actually love old vintage names.  named both my kids older names, im sick of this new name trendy thing.  when i have another child in a few years, if its a boy I was actually thinking I do like the name George.  My favorite name is James but my husband hates that name for some reason, drives me nuts!

anyway, i'm not suprised that George would stop and help these people.  he's exactly the type of person i would want as a neighbor.  i know in my neighborhood, we all look out for eachother and it's a nice neighborhood with low crime.  my husband is away with the military and every other day i have people stopping by to check in on me and the kids, ask if theres anything to help with, etc..men and women.  i can picture GZ being exactly like this.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 23, 2013, 10:38:54 AM
BillO gives fiery monologue challenging black leaders to address REAL ISSUES plaguing black community
The Right Scoop  on July 22nd, 2013


BillO really went after the so-called black leaders, including Obama, for ignoring the real issues that plague the black community like the breakdown of the family and the peddling of ‘poison’. He said that if they want a conversation, they’ve got one and called on them to stop blaming everything on slavery and to work on a message to begin to correct these devastating problems.

Watch:

http://therightscoop.com/billo-gives-fiery-monologue-challenging-black-leaders-to-address-real-issues-plaguing-black-community/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 23, 2013, 11:27:49 AM
I thought it was interesting that President Obama co-sponsored legislation that strengthens "stand your ground" laws in Illinois while he was a State Senator:

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2013/07/obama-strongly-supported-stand-your-ground-when-in-illinois-senate.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 23, 2013, 01:15:17 PM
I thought it was interesting that President Obama co-sponsored legislation that strengthens "stand your ground" laws in Illinois while he was a State Senator:

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2013/07/obama-strongly-supported-stand-your-ground-when-in-illinois-senate.html

 ::MonkeyShocked::

VERY interesting!!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 23, 2013, 08:16:37 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-angela-corey-evidence-violation-20130723,0,979424.story
Angela Corey's office rebuked for late evidence gaffe in wrongful-termination suit
July 23, 2013

The office of State Attorney Angela Corey faces potential sanctions and will have to pay thousands of dollars in taxpayer money after failing to turn over all documents in a wrongful termination case filed by a former employee.

It prompted a scolding by U.S. District Judge Timothy Corrigan and follows similar criticisms in the failed prosecution of George Zimmerman.


Julie Lyncker, a former clerk in the Nassau County office, says she was fired after she complained about the way former Assistant State Attorney Wesley White treated her.

Lyncker says her civil rights were violated and the firing was an illegal retaliation for reporting wrongdoing in the office.
 ::snipping3::

Monday, Corrigan agreed to delay the case after lawyers representing the State Attorney's Office admitted they didn't provide opposing attorneys key evidence until Saturday.

A jury was scheduled to be picked Monday and the two sides were supposed to turn over all materials months ago.

The judge sent 40 potential jurors home and told Corey's attorneys that the office would have to recompense the court for the $2,500 it cost to bring the jurors in.

"This stuff hits the case where it lives," Corrigan said. "And it's hard to understand how this happens."

Corey also was accused of withholding key findings from Trayvon Martin's cellphone in the Zimmerman trial and faces potential sanctions there. Zimmerman was acquitted after claiming self-defense in Martin's death.

Leonard Hackett, a private attorney hired to defend the State Attorney's Office, confirmed he discovered emails discussing the firing of Lyncker between senior staff on Saturday while prepping a witness who was going to testify in the case.

He immediately turned them over to Joseph DeBelder, Lyncker's lead attorney.

But DeBelder said he needed to depose Corey, former Chief Assistant State Attorney Dan McCarthy and several other employees again because of what the emails said.

In previous depositions Corey and McCarthy both said McCarthy decided to fire Lyncker, and Corey wasn't involved.

But one of the emails turned over Saturday had McCarthy telling White that he gave the "Boss" an option to retain Lyncker and a second option that would fire her.

"Boss" could only be Corey, and the emails suggest that Corey made the final decision, DeBelder said.


White and McCarthy, who have both left the State Attorney's Office, declined to comment Monday. After the hearing, Hackett told the Times-Union that McCarthy made the final decision to fire Lyncker but declined to discuss the newly discovered emails.

Hackett said he couldn't guarantee there weren't other missing emails and Corrigan said that left him no choice but to delay the case.

"The thing about these emails is they are directly on point," Corrigan said.

DeBelder said he wants to question Corey and McCarthy a second time under oath and also wants to depose former information technology director Ben Kruidbos, who was fired by Corey after he testified last month about being concerned prosecutors did not turn over information to Zimmerman's defense team.

DeBelder said it appears the emails in question were collected and printed out by Kruidbos. White, who is planning to represent Kruidbos in a wrongful termination lawsuit against Corey, said his client would have no comment on his role in the Lyncker case.

Lawyers for Lyncker also want to be allowed to conduct a forensic review of the state attorney's email system to determine if there is more correspondence they should have. Whether that is allowed will be discussed at a future hearing.

Corrigan said the State Attorney's Office will have to pay the cost of all future depositions in the case because it was responsible for the delay.

In her lawsuit, Lyncker said White, who was then the top Nassau prosecutor, repeatedly asked Lyncker if she was having sex with former Nassau Sheriff Tommy Seagraves and tried to use Lyncker as a go between to improve his relationship with the sheriff.

Lyncker, who denies having an affair with Seagraves, said she refused to help White and complained about the way he was treating her to Corey and McCarthy, but they fired her after she complained.

Lawyers for Corey said Lyncker's complaints were looked into, but when they questioned other Nassau employees, they found out that Lyncker engaged in inappropriate behavior and was fired because of what was discovered.

That inappropriate behavior includes talking about sexual acts and people she'd like to have sex with in the office, slapping male colleagues on the butt and wearing inappropriate clothing.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on July 24, 2013, 07:22:08 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-angela-corey-evidence-violation-20130723,0,979424.story
Angela Corey's office rebuked for late evidence gaffe in wrongful-termination suit
July 23, 2013

The office of State Attorney Angela Corey faces potential sanctions and will have to pay thousands of dollars in taxpayer money after failing to turn over all documents in a wrongful termination case filed by a former employee.

It prompted a scolding by U.S. District Judge Timothy Corrigan and follows similar criticisms in the failed prosecution of George Zimmerman.


Julie Lyncker, a former clerk in the Nassau County office, says she was fired after she complained about the way former Assistant State Attorney Wesley White treated her.

Lyncker says her civil rights were violated and the firing was an illegal retaliation for reporting wrongdoing in the office.
 ::snipping3::

Monday, Corrigan agreed to delay the case after lawyers representing the State Attorney's Office admitted they didn't provide opposing attorneys key evidence until Saturday.

A jury was scheduled to be picked Monday and the two sides were supposed to turn over all materials months ago.

The judge sent 40 potential jurors home and told Corey's attorneys that the office would have to recompense the court for the $2,500 it cost to bring the jurors in.

"This stuff hits the case where it lives," Corrigan said. "And it's hard to understand how this happens."

Corey also was accused of withholding key findings from Trayvon Martin's cellphone in the Zimmerman trial and faces potential sanctions there. Zimmerman was acquitted after claiming self-defense in Martin's death.

Leonard Hackett, a private attorney hired to defend the State Attorney's Office, confirmed he discovered emails discussing the firing of Lyncker between senior staff on Saturday while prepping a witness who was going to testify in the case.

He immediately turned them over to Joseph DeBelder, Lyncker's lead attorney.

But DeBelder said he needed to depose Corey, former Chief Assistant State Attorney Dan McCarthy and several other employees again because of what the emails said.

In previous depositions Corey and McCarthy both said McCarthy decided to fire Lyncker, and Corey wasn't involved.

But one of the emails turned over Saturday had McCarthy telling White that he gave the "Boss" an option to retain Lyncker and a second option that would fire her.

"Boss" could only be Corey, and the emails suggest that Corey made the final decision, DeBelder said.


White and McCarthy, who have both left the State Attorney's Office, declined to comment Monday. After the hearing, Hackett told the Times-Union that McCarthy made the final decision to fire Lyncker but declined to discuss the newly discovered emails.

Hackett said he couldn't guarantee there weren't other missing emails and Corrigan said that left him no choice but to delay the case.

"The thing about these emails is they are directly on point," Corrigan said.

DeBelder said he wants to question Corey and McCarthy a second time under oath and also wants to depose former information technology director Ben Kruidbos, who was fired by Corey after he testified last month about being concerned prosecutors did not turn over information to Zimmerman's defense team.

DeBelder said it appears the emails in question were collected and printed out by Kruidbos. White, who is planning to represent Kruidbos in a wrongful termination lawsuit against Corey, said his client would have no comment on his role in the Lyncker case.

Lawyers for Lyncker also want to be allowed to conduct a forensic review of the state attorney's email system to determine if there is more correspondence they should have. Whether that is allowed will be discussed at a future hearing.

Corrigan said the State Attorney's Office will have to pay the cost of all future depositions in the case because it was responsible for the delay.

In her lawsuit, Lyncker said White, who was then the top Nassau prosecutor, repeatedly asked Lyncker if she was having sex with former Nassau Sheriff Tommy Seagraves and tried to use Lyncker as a go between to improve his relationship with the sheriff.

Lyncker, who denies having an affair with Seagraves, said she refused to help White and complained about the way he was treating her to Corey and McCarthy, but they fired her after she complained.

Lawyers for Corey said Lyncker's complaints were looked into, but when they questioned other Nassau employees, they found out that Lyncker engaged in inappropriate behavior and was fired because of what was discovered.

That inappropriate behavior includes talking about sexual acts and people she'd like to have sex with in the office, slapping male colleagues on the butt and wearing inappropriate clothing.

To pay fines is not the answer.  That's taxpayers' money so it doesn't hurt them at all.  Their actions were personal decisions they made and IMO they should be held personally responsible.  What a dreamer I am!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on July 24, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Have y'all read where you can mix a drink like Arizona tea, candy like Skittles and cough syrup to make what is called "lean" or purple drank?

I did not know this until a few days ago.

Any comments?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 24, 2013, 10:02:31 AM
Family helped by George Zimmerman after crash to hold press conference
July 24, 2013


A man who authorities say was helped to safety — along with his wife and children — by George Zimmerman after a roll-over SUV crash in Seminole County last week is expected to speak to reporters today about the accident.

Mark Gerstle, who was driving the Ford Explorer when it overturned about 5:45 p.m. Wednesday, will speak in Orlando this afternoon.

<snipped>

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-rescue-press-conference-20130724,0,805379.story



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 24, 2013, 10:08:26 AM
Have y'all read where you can mix a drink like Arizona tea, candy like Skittles and cough syrup to make what is called "lean" or purple drank?

I did not know this until a few days ago.

Any comments?


Bill Whittle & ‘Afterburner’ … The Wretched Lynching of George Zimmerman … The MSM Participated in Criminal Fraud or Criminal Negligence
 
CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH?

For years we have been suspect of the MSM. Either the media has had a liberal political agenda in their reporting or a media bias for everything PC. Now in the murder trial of George Zimmerman, the media, politicians, civil rights agitators and President Obama came out against Zimmerman for their agenda.  For those that can handle the truth and want to understand what happened in the arrest, trial and MSM lack of journalistic integrity that brought rise to the persecution of George Zimmerman and the attack on him at all cost to get a guilty verdict in the murder of Trayvon Martin. Enter Bill Whittle of ‘Afterburner’ and a phenomenal news investigation. It is too bad that the MSM could not have done an ounce of the research that Whittle did, instead of their racism agenda.

What ever happened to journalism and journalistic integrity?

MUST SEE VIDEO, IF YOU CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH


Posted July 23, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/23/bill-whittle-afterburner-the-wretched-lynching-of-george-zimmerman-the-msm-participated-in-criminal-fraud-or-criminal-negligence/




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 24, 2013, 10:27:23 AM
IN A NUTSHELL!!

MUST WATCH – Bill Whittle: The wretched lynching of George Zimmerman
The Right Scoop on July 20th, 2013
http://therightscoop.com/must-watch-bill-whittle-the-wretched-lynching-of-george-zimmerman/


Cadillac

I am having difficulties accessing the Bill Whittle video on SM Front Page.

Janet



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on July 24, 2013, 11:32:41 AM
IN A NUTSHELL!!

MUST WATCH – Bill Whittle: The wretched lynching of George Zimmerman
The Right Scoop on July 20th, 2013
http://therightscoop.com/must-watch-bill-whittle-the-wretched-lynching-of-george-zimmerman/




Cadillac

I am having difficulties accessing the Bill Whittle video on SM Front Page.

Janet



Thanks, Janet.  I had previously seen most of this - but not the very last part.  Someone had cut it off before the pic of the Prez.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I will keep more of my comments to myself.  I respect everyone's opinion but mine is very strong about this entire situation.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 24, 2013, 11:42:52 AM
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/07/23/rev-al-sharpton-joined-trayvon-martins-father-in-nw-dade-rally/
Rev. Al Sharpton Joined Trayvon Martin’s Father In NW Dade Rally
July 23, 2013



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 24, 2013, 11:44:51 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/23/tracy-martin-black-caucus_n_3639894.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
Tracy Martin, Trayvon's Dad, To Attend Meeting Of Congressional Caucus On Black Men And Boys
July 23, 2013

WASHINGTON -- The Congressional Caucus on Black Men and Boys is holding its first-ever meeting on Wednesday, and Tracy Martin, the father of slain teenager Trayvon Martin, will be in attendance.

The panel invited Martin to attend the meeting as a special guest, according to a press release. Martin will meet privately with caucus members ahead of the meeting and then stay for its duration. The topic of the meeting is "The Status of Black Males: Ensuring Our Boys Mature Into Strong Men."

The caucus previously announced three speakers for Wednesday's meeting, but did not mention Martin would be there. Expected speakers include MSNBC host and Georgetown University professor Michael Eric Dyson, former congressman and NAACP President Kweisi Mfume, and David J. Johns, the head of the White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans.

The caucus was created in March and is led by Rep. Danny Davis (D-Ill.) and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), both members of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Norton's office confirmed that Martin will be giving opening remarks at the hearing.
 ::snipping3::

Video at Link


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 24, 2013, 11:47:02 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/23/trayvon-martins-father-to-appear-wednesday-on-capitol-hill/
Trayvon Martin’s father to appear Wednesday on Capitol Hill
July 23, 2013



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 24, 2013, 01:33:44 PM
Rumor is the royal baby will be named in his honor. Or maybe I just plan to fill twitter with that rumor. ::MonkeyDevil::

Guess your tweets worked...  ::MonkeyWink::

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kate-middleton-prince-william-baby-george-alexander-louis/story?id=19742510
Kate Middleton and Prince William Name Baby George Alexander Louis
July 24, 2013


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 24, 2013, 02:15:59 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/24/man-rescued-by-zimmerman-speaking/2582651/

1:35 p.m. EDT July 24, 2013
Mark Gerstle, whose SUV overturned, does not want to be in the spotlight, attorney says.

A man helped out of an overturned SUV by George Zimmerman canceled plans to speak with reporters Wednesday.

Mark Gerstle was scheduled to appear at a news conference at 1:30 p.m. ET in Florida, Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara said. Gerstle was going to offer details about the accident in which he, his wife and their two children were helped out of their SUV by Zimmerman and another man when it turned over.

Shawn Vincent, a spokesperson for Zimmerman's attorneys, said the family helped by Zimmerman canceled the news conference because "they don't want to be in the spotlight."

The family contacted O'Mara's office Tuesday and said they were concerned by the number of reporters trying to reach them. Reporters have been outside their home and talking to neighbors and relatives, Vincent said.

Vincent suggested a press conference. "I told them if you address the media, you can give them the story they need and move on," Vincent said. "We were doing it to help them out because they are going to be harassed until someone gets their story."

But before the press conference got underway, the family issued a statement Wednesday saying they no longer wanted to speak with reporters.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 24, 2013, 02:20:29 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-rescued-george-zimmerman-fears-blow-back/story?id=19758908

Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Fears 'Blow Back'
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.
 ::snipping3::
The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.

"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The family could not be reached for comment.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on July 24, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-rescued-george-zimmerman-fears-blow-back/story?id=19758908

Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Fears 'Blow Back'
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.
 ::snipping3::
The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.

"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The family could not be reached for comment.
 ::snipping3::



It's a pity when a family is afraid to even publicly thank someone for helping them.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 24, 2013, 06:06:27 PM
Family helped by George Zimmerman after crash to hold press conference
July 24, 2013


A man who authorities say was helped to safety — along with his wife and children — by George Zimmerman after a roll-over SUV crash in Seminole County last week is expected to speak to reporters today about the accident.

Mark Gerstle, who was driving the Ford Explorer when it overturned about 5:45 p.m. Wednesday, will speak in Orlando this afternoon.

<snipped>

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-rescue-press-conference-20130724,0,805379.story



Man helped by Zimmerman cancels news conference
USA TODAY 1:35 p.m. EDT July 24, 2013


A man helped out of an overturned SUV by George Zimmerman canceled plans to speak with reporters Wednesday.

Mark Gerstle was scheduled to appear at a news conference at 1:30 p.m. ET in Florida, Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara said. Gerstle was going to offer details about the accident in which he, his wife and their two children were helped out of their SUV by Zimmerman and another man when it turned over.

Shawn Vincent, a spokesperson for Zimmerman's attorneys, said the family helped by Zimmerman canceled the news conference because "they don't want to be in the spotlight."

The family contacted O'Mara's office Tuesday and said they were concerned by the number of reporters trying to reach them. Reporters have been outside their home and talking to neighbors and relatives, Vincent said.

Vincent suggested a press conference. "I told them if you address the media, you can give them the story they need and move on," Vincent said. "We were doing it to help them out because they are going to be harassed until someone gets their story."

But before the press conference got underway, the family issued a statement Wednesday saying they no longer wanted to speak with reporters. ....

<snipped>

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/24/man-rescued-by-zimmerman-speaking/2582651/


 





Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 24, 2013, 07:10:47 PM
July 24, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Hearing is over. I'll have updates to my story soon.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Tracy Martin and his attorney Benjamin Crump are on their way out of the hearing. Both spoke about limiting stand your ground laws

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
Tracy Martin: Fifty years from now I want #TrayvonMartin 's name to be attached to an amendment to limit stand your ground laws.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
Tracy Martin says the legacy of #TrayvonMartin should be this: "Trayvon helped bridge the gap of America."

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
Kweisi Mfume, former NAACP pres., begins by thanking Tracy Martin for his grace through the death of his son. Room gives a standing ovation

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
Johns talked for several minutes about the disparity in black communities including poverty, education rates and life expectancy.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
David Johns says the nation must continue to talk in public and private about achievements of black men and boys.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
David Johns, Executive Director White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans, is explaining black boys' challenges

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Benjamin Crump wants  the "Trayvon Martin amendment" passed that would make it illegal to initiate a confrontation and claim self-defense.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin: "We are the voice for Trayvon."

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin says the nation has to ask how to stop other children from suffering the same fate as his son #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin says he doesn't want this verdict to define who his son was.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin says he will continue to fight for #TrayvonMartin and other black young men.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Rep. Frederica Wilson says every school should have a program dedicated to black young men to help lift them up.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Norton says the death of #TrayvonMartin has focused this nation on the lives of black men and that should be Trayvon's legacy.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) opens by saying black men and boys need to define themselves and not be stereotyped.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Surrounded by media. The event begins. pic.twitter.com/dNmqovdD4S
View photo
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BP9nLbGCEAM0FPg.jpg)
   
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin, father of #TrayvonMartin , has arrived along with his attorney Benjamin Crump.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Still waiting for the event to begin. First hearing of the Congressional Caucus on Black Men and Boys.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 24, 2013, 07:15:57 PM
July 24, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  25m 
RT @WFTV Sanford businesses say they're suffering after #Zimmermantrial verdict: http://at.wftv.com/13e25Yc  #ZimmermanOn9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
Asking for an investigation into possible jury misconduct in the #Zimmermanon9 case. 2/2

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
@HeadlessGal Thanks for the recommendation. #CadyWayTrial
View conversation     

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
A http://change.org  petition has been sent to Prosecutor Angela Corey, the state Attorney General and Governor 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 24, 2013, 07:29:11 PM
July 24, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Hearing is over. I'll have updates to my story soon.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Tracy Martin and his attorney Benjamin Crump are on their way out of the hearing. Both spoke about limiting stand your ground laws

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
Tracy Martin: Fifty years from now I want #TrayvonMartin 's name to be attached to an amendment to limit stand your ground laws.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
Tracy Martin says the legacy of #TrayvonMartin should be this: "Trayvon helped bridge the gap of America."

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
Kweisi Mfume, former NAACP pres., begins by thanking Tracy Martin for his grace through the death of his son. Room gives a standing ovation

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
Johns talked for several minutes about the disparity in black communities including poverty, education rates and life expectancy.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
David Johns says the nation must continue to talk in public and private about achievements of black men and boys.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
David Johns, Executive Director White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans, is explaining black boys' challenges

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Benjamin Crump wants  the "Trayvon Martin amendment" passed that would make it illegal to initiate a confrontation and claim self-defense.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin: "We are the voice for Trayvon."

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin says the nation has to ask how to stop other children from suffering the same fate as his son #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin says he doesn't want this verdict to define who his son was.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin says he will continue to fight for #TrayvonMartin and other black young men.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Rep. Frederica Wilson says every school should have a program dedicated to black young men to help lift them up.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Norton says the death of #TrayvonMartin has focused this nation on the lives of black men and that should be Trayvon's legacy.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) opens by saying black men and boys need to define themselves and not be stereotyped.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Surrounded by media. The event begins. pic.twitter.com/dNmqovdD4S
View photo
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BP9nLbGCEAM0FPg.jpg)
   
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Tracy Martin, father of #TrayvonMartin , has arrived along with his attorney Benjamin Crump.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3h 
Still waiting for the event to begin. First hearing of the Congressional Caucus on Black Men and Boys.


How will the mainstream media networks respond to the revelation that Barack Obama voted in 2004 to strengthen "Stand Your Ground" law?  Somehow I suspect there will be no response.

Janet

+++++


Obama Voted to Strengthen Illinois’s Stand Your Ground Law in 2004
July 22, 2013 8:56 AM

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/354059/obama-voted-strengthen-illinoiss-stand-your-ground-law-2004-john-fund

Obama co-sponsored legislation strengthening Illinois’ “stand your ground” law
 Sunday, July 21, 2013

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2013/07/obama-strongly-supported-stand-your-ground-when-in-illinois-senate.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 25, 2013, 12:36:49 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-juror-b29-talks-to-abc-20130725,0,4126847.post

George Zimmerman: Juror B-29 talks to ABC
By Hal Boedeker Staff writer
10:56 a.m. EDT, July 25, 2013

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-51f150a5/turbine/os-george-zimmerman-juror-b29-talks-to-abc-201-001/580/580x435)
Robin Roberts, left, interviews Juror B-29, the only minority juror from the George Zimmerman trial. The juror's attorney, David Chico, is at right. (Donna Svennevik / ABC / July 25, 2013)

Juror B-29, the only minority juror from the George Zimmerman trial, has talked to ABC's Robin Roberts.

Roberts conducted the interview Thursday morning after "Good Morning America." The juror, who is identified as Maddy, is shown. She was flown to New York for the interview, and that is a standard practice for network news programs.

The first portions of the interview will air on "World News With Diane Sawyer" at 6:30 p.m. Thursday on WFTV-Channel 9.

More of the exclusive interview will be seen this evening on "Nightline." The full interview will air Friday on "Good Morning America," which starts at 7 a.m.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 25, 2013, 12:50:51 PM
Two-page article

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20130725/NEWS01/130725007/Brevard-group-honor-George-Zimmerman-attorney-Mark-O-Mara

Brevard group to honor George Zimmerman attorney Mark O'mara
Jul. 25, 2013 12:07 PM

A local organization is giving an award to Mark O'Mara, the Orlando-based lawyer who successfully defended George Zimmerman in the February 2012 shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin.

O’Mara is scheduled to accept the award from the Republican Liberty Caucus at the organization’s annual Constitution Day dinner on Sept. 14 at the Holiday Inn in Viera.

O’Mara also will speak at the event. The organization’s award is called the “Jefferson Cup” – named for Thomas Jefferson - and it goes to an individual who speaks “truth to power,” said Bob White, chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus.

Also speaking at the dinner will be Michael Boldin, founder of the 10th Amendment Center.

White has been friends with O’Mara since they both were students at what is now the University of Central Florida.

“We give the award to someone for what they done, stood for or accomplished and we thought Mark would be very deserving of the award this year,” White said. “Frankly, it was the post-verdict press conference that Mark conducted where he challenged the media but also the judicial system itself. Those of us who watched that news conference said ‘Now there is a guy who spoke truth to power’ and we began to get the idea that perhaps he is somebody that we should honor with the Jefferson Cub for the way in which he took on the legal profession where he makes his living.”

Glenn Dames, pastor of St. James AME and one of the key Brevard organizers for rallies supporting Trayvon Martin’s family, called the decision to award O’Mara “perplexing.”

“It’s a cause for pausing,” Dames said after being told about the award. “As a pastor I continue to pray for unity but not just for unity but for a better understanding between all of us and for the minorities in this country. I also don’t think that this is a coincidence. The shooting of Trayvon may have happened in Sanford but both Brevard County and Sanford share some similar histories.”
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 25, 2013, 12:57:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_XvnoCjO3k

Full video: O'Mara says crash victims rescued by Zimmerman concerned about 'blow back'
Published on Jul 24, 2013 

George Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, talked to the media Wednesday afternoon and addressed skeptics who think the rescue was a public relations stunt.
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 25, 2013, 03:36:36 PM
George Zimmerman Juror Says He 'Got Away With Murder'
July 25, 2013


The only minority on the all-female jury that voted to acquit George Zimmerman said today that Zimmerman "got away with murder" for killing Trayvon Martin and feels she owes an apology Martin's parents.

"You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," said the woman who was identified only as Juror B29 during the trial. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."

She said the jury was following Florida law and the evidence, she said, did not prove murder.

<snipped>

Read more:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-juror-murder/story?id=19770659


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: sunshine12 on July 25, 2013, 06:14:49 PM
well at least they followed the law...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on July 25, 2013, 08:15:03 PM
It went to trial.  Which is what the Martins wanted.  I agree.

A jury was picked by both sides.

I'm sure it was difficult to listen to the testimonies by all the jurors.i

They all voted for GZ to be acquitted.

If one juror wanted to hold out and vote for a conviction, then  that juror should have done that?

What am I missing- we are retrying this trial in the media after the US judicial system has spoken?

My prayers are for the Martins who lost their son, child, brother, friend.

What is the goal now?  Let's all find a way to make the world better and stop the pointing fingers.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cw618 on July 25, 2013, 08:20:10 PM
hi monkeys,i have a Q, did GZ ever ID his self to TM
like hey im GZ a NHW just checking it out,or something like that

i had an incident, just a couple of hrs ago, the kid had co. did not
inform me so and so is in the back garden, who are you, got me
i like the garden and greenhouse, im in the greenhouse and now
have a tool, one more time who are you,im >>>>>> and i really
like your garden, kid shows up hey this is ................. it worked
out ok,but got me to thinking about, he did not give me enough
info or an explanation,  to know its prob ok your in my garden

IDK, maybe i didnt ask the right Q


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 25, 2013, 09:05:50 PM
July 25, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5h
#TrayvonMartin family attorney Ben Crump reacts to B29 interview: "If members of the jury thought the (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rlio37

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 6h
Juror B-29: #GeorgeZimmerman got away with the murder of #TrayvonMartin. http://thesent.nl/15N0RVX .
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6h
B29 tells @ABC she was the one who initially wanted to convict #GeorgeZimmerman on 2nd-degree murder. "I fought to the end," she says.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6h
B29 says case never should've gone to trial. "I felt like this was a publicity stunt." Feels she owes #TrayvonMartin's parents an apology.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6h
B29 tells @ABC jury "had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence," which she says didn't prove murder under FL law.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6h
Link: #GeorgeZimmerman juror B-29 tells @ABC's @RobinRoberts that #Zimmerman "got away with murder" http://abcn.ws/16eJUDZ

  Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9h
#Zimmerman juror B-29 talks to @ABC | Story via @TVGuyHal:
 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-juror-b29-talks-to-abc-20130725,0,4126847.post … #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Santina Leuci ‏@SantinaLeuci 11h
Out of the shadows, #Zimmerman #Juror29 speaks out. @RobinRoberts exclusive starting w @ABCWorldNews, @Nightline full intv on @GMA tomorrow.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 25, 2013, 09:08:16 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-juror-b29-talks-to-abc-20130725,0,4126847.post
The TV Guy
Hal Boedeker of Orlando Sentinel is The TV Guy. Dishing on TV, the news and what everybody is talking about.
George Zimmerman trial 'a publicity stunt,' juror tells ABC

July 25, 23013



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 26, 2013, 03:04:56 AM
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/meet-the-zimmerman-trial-jurors/

Meet the Zimmerman Trial Jurors
Posted by Andrew Branca    Sunday, June 23, 2013 at 6:00pm

 ::snipping3::
Juror B29

B29 was first presented to the court for preliminary voir dire on Day One of jury selection, June 10. She is a Hispanic nurse who works the night shift with Alzheimer’s patients. She was a resident of Chicago at the time of the shooting, having arrived in Seminole county only four months prior to the start of the trial. This relatively recent arrival to the area is part of the explanation for why she says she has “no idea” about the case. In addition, she explained, “I don’t like watching the news, period,” and “I don’t read any newspapers, don’t watch the news.” She also indicated that she didn’t tend to watch crime procedural programs, saying that she preferred to real world to “make believe.”

She did, however, recall that some “little boy had passed away,” and she assumed that “he was a kid, 12 or 13.” She recalled seeing pictures of Trayvon in various formats, including T-shirts. She recalled hearing people talking talking about the event in the context of the “child who died.”

B29 has eight children, the oldest of whom is 20 and recently returned home to look for work. She as been married for 10 years. Asked if she worked with any charitable type of organizations outside her regular job she answered, “My house is my organization.” She speaks passionately about her children.

She was one of the prospective jurors who had previously been arrested, but said the matter was no longer pending, that she had been treated fairly, and that she wouldn’t hold the fact of her arrest against either side.

Upon final voir dire by the defense she affirmed that she would have no hesitancy in finding Zimmerman “not guilty” if she had a reasonable doubt of his guilt, even if she possessed as much as a considerable certainty of his guilt. She also acknowledged her duty to listen to both sides of the argument as presented in court, and to not “bring your problems [prejudices] into this trial.”
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: sunshine12 on July 26, 2013, 08:01:46 AM
i think this juror who just spoke prob got paid nicely for her interview, knew she'd be identified at some point, and wanted to get out in front of it.  thank god she was able to put her feelings aside, it's too late now for her to change her mind so it is what it is.  thank god she followed the law, he's innocent and that's all that matters imo.  this does explain why deliberations took so long though. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 26, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
Detroit’s City Council spends time weighing in on Zimmerman case, puts Motor City issues on back burner
Published July 26, 2013

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/26/detroits-city-council-spends-time-weighing-in-on-zimmerman-case-puts-motor-city/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on July 26, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
i think this juror who just spoke prob got paid nicely for her interview, knew she'd be identified at some point, and wanted to get out in front of it.  thank god she was able to put her feelings aside, it's too late now for her to change her mind so it is what it is.  thank god she followed the law, he's innocent and that's all that matters imo.  this does explain why deliberations took so long though. 

it is refreshing to know that the jury followed the law and not their emotions.  As much as our judicial system needs fixing, we need to use the process  JMO
 ::germanshep::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 26, 2013, 09:43:38 AM
Juror B29 Says that George Zimmerman “Got Away with Murder” in the Death of Trayvon Martin

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/26/juror-b29-says-that-george-zimmerman-got-away-with-murder-in-the-death-of-trayvon-martin/

Quote
Hmm, if juror B29 initially voted to convict George Zimmerman guilty of second degree murder, how did she suddenly come to a not guilty verdict?

In an exclusive ABC News interview on ‘Good Morning America (VIDEO),’ juror  B29, Maddy, spoke out regarding being on the jury in the George Zimmerman murder trial. Juror B29 said that George Zimmerman “got away with murder,” but then said, “but you can’t get away from God. As reported at the Orlando Sentinel, juror B29 was the lone minority juror and said that she initially voted to convict Zimmerman of second-degree murder because “the evidence shows he’s guilty.” However, after 16 hours of deliberation, she  joined the five other women on the jury and acquitted Zimmerman in the murder and manslaughter of 17-year old Trayvon Martin.
::snipping3::

A note to juror B29, did it ever dawn on you that some one did not commit murder if the prosecution could provide no evidence that there was a murder?



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 26, 2013, 11:01:03 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57595628/trayvons-mother-latest-juror-statement-devastating/

July 26, 2013, 7:01 AM 
Trayvon's mother: Latest juror statement "devastating"

The second juror to speak publicly said in an interview made available Thursday she feels George Zimmerman "got away with murder" for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin, but that there wasn't enough evidence at trial to convict him under Florida law.

Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, released a statement saying, "It is devastating for my family to hear the comments from juror B29, comments which we already knew in our hearts to be true. That George Zimmerman literally got away with murder.

"This new information challenges our nation once again to do everything we can to make sure that this never happens to another child. That's why Tracy (Martin, Trayvon's father) and I have launched The Trayvon Martin Foundation to try and take something very painful and negative and turn it into something positive as a legacy to our son."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 26, 2013, 11:38:46 AM
Juror B29 Says that George Zimmerman “Got Away with Murder” in the Death of Trayvon Martin

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/26/juror-b29-says-that-george-zimmerman-got-away-with-murder-in-the-death-of-trayvon-martin/

Quote
Hmm, if juror B29 initially voted to convict George Zimmerman guilty of second degree murder, how did she suddenly come to a not guilty verdict?

In an exclusive ABC News interview on ‘Good Morning America (VIDEO),’ juror  B29, Maddy, spoke out regarding being on the jury in the George Zimmerman murder trial. Juror B29 said that George Zimmerman “got away with murder,” but then said, “but you can’t get away from God. As reported at the Orlando Sentinel, juror B29 was the lone minority juror and said that she initially voted to convict Zimmerman of second-degree murder because “the evidence shows he’s guilty.” However, after 16 hours of deliberation, she  joined the five other women on the jury and acquitted Zimmerman in the murder and manslaughter of 17-year old Trayvon Martin.
::snipping3::

A note to juror B29, did it ever dawn on you that some one did not commit murder if the prosecution could provide no evidence that there was a murder?



 ::rhino::

Logic dictates!!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 26, 2013, 12:17:46 PM
I think it sounds like some of the questions are "leading" questions to get the answer that the interviewer wants to hear? jmo

Video and "This transcript has been automatically generated and may not be 100% accurate"

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/george-zimmerman-juror-29-interview-gma-vote-degree-19779607

Zimmerman Juror: 'My First Vote Was Second-Degree Murder'
Juror B29 tells Robin Roberts that jurors could not prove Zimmerman intentionally killed Martin.
05:31  | 07/26/2013

  ::snipping3::
You've heard all of the evidence. You've heard the closing argument, all of that. You go into the room for the first time, together as a group.

Did you take a vote right away to see where you stand? We didn't take a vote. Reporter: What was your first vote?

I many first vote was second-degree murder. And people want to know how did you go from, in nine hours,

from feeling he was guilty of second-degree murder, to not guilty? It was hard.

A lot of us had wanted to find something bad, something that we could connect to the law because all six of us -- let's not speak for all six of us. For myself, he's guilty because the evidence shows he's guilty. He's guilty of?

Killing trayvon martin. But we couldn't prove that intentionally he killed him. And that's the way the law was written for me.

Tell us more about the emotion, during those nine hours, from the initial vote of murder, second-degree, to not guilty. What was going on in your mind? Your heart?

I was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. I was. I fought until the end.

Did you feel a little, for lack of a better word, bullied in the deliberations? I don't know if I was bullied. I trust god that I wasn't bullied.

Do you feel your voice was heard? My voice was heard. I was the loudest, yeah.

That's for sure. You're a mother, as you said. You have children that were trayvon's age.

Eight of them. And what would your reaction have been if your son, going to the store, getting candy and iced tea, going home. An altercation happens.

And your son is killed. I feel that I was forcefully included in trayvon martin's death. I carry him on my back.

I'm hurting as much as trayvon's mother because there's no way that any mother should feel that pain. And you said earlier, that you are the juror that could have made it a hung jury? Oh, yeah.

Do you have regrets that you didn't? I want trayvon's mom to know that I'm hurting. And if she thought that nobody cared about her son, I could speak for myself, I do care.

I couldn't do anything about it. And I felt like I let a lot of people down. And I'm thinking to myself, did I go the right way?

Did I go the wrong way? I know I went the right way because the law and the way it's followed, is the way it went. But if I would have used my heart, I probably would have went a hung jury.

And believing with all my heart because I do -- I do have kids. You wanted to come forward. Yes.

You haven't asked for money. You haven't asked for a book deal. You haven't asking for anything other than a forum to be able to tell your story.

Yeah. I don't need money. I think time is healing.

But trayvon martin will always be in my heart. Some people have said george zimmerman got away with murder. How do you respond to those people who say that?

George zimmerman -- george zimmerman got away with murder. But you can't get away from god. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with.

The law couldn't prove it. We just have to believe in the lord that he's -- if he's asked to pay, he will pay. But you feel in your heart of hearts, that you and the jury approached it and came with a decision.

And you stand by that decision to this day? I stand by the decision because of the law. And finally for you, maddy, what would you like to say to trayvon's parents?

I would like to apologize because I feel like I let them down. We just couldn't prove anything. And I wish them the best.

And my god bless them through all this. And peace. And that is maddy's hope.

Peace for the martin family, for everyone in this country. She was not going to say anything until juror b-37 spoke out two days after the verdict. And you may recall that four other jurors signed a statement, distancing themselves from that juror's comments.

Maddy felt it didn't accurately reflect her feelings. One thing that maddy did agree with the other juror on, she said race was not discussed in the deliberations. It never came up in their discussion.

But one thing she came back to again and again and again. She said the law. And you remember, president obama's first statement after the verdict, we have a nation of laws.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: sailcat on July 26, 2013, 12:59:44 PM
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/columns/kevin-horrigan/horrigan-what-if-liberty-valance-had-been-unarmed/article_c9661fc8-085e-5d98-947b-f3452f428cea.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 26, 2013, 01:31:44 PM
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@JeffWeinerOS I know I keep bringing that up. But was she allowed to say Zim had a right "to stand his ground" ?? @NatJackEsq

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: sailcat on July 26, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/columns/kevin-horrigan/horrigan-what-if-liberty-valance-had-been-unarmed/article_c9661fc8-085e-5d98-947b-f3452f428cea.html

Whoops! My link may not be clickable. In case it's not, here is the article:



From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Horrigan: What if Liberty Valance had been unarmed?
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July 20, 2013 6:00 am  •  Kevin Horrigan • khorrigan@post-dispatch.com > 314-340-8135

We’re back once again at the 4-H Club — the Heavenly Hall of Hollywood Heroes — where the weekly poker game is again under way.

When we were here last, the heroes were concerned that they were taking the rap for America’s culture of gun violence. As Gary Cooper (d. 1961) put it, “They’re just saying that seeing all of us heroes using guns for all of those years makes certain middle-aged men believe that guns are part of the culture in America. Especially those of us who were cowboys.”

Coop, for all his laconic presence in the movies, seems to have taken to stirring up trouble in the Great Beyond. Today he’s saying, “Any of you boys ever shoot an unarmed man?”

“Hell, no,” says John Wayne (d. 1979). “Wasn’t part of the code. The game is five-card stud, pilgrims.”

“There were always plenty of armed guys around,” said Jim Arness (d. 2011). “When I was Matt Dillon, I’d just take ‘em out on the streets of Dodge, they’d make a play and blam! Back to the Long Branch and Miss Kitty. I’ll take two, Duke.”

“What’s your point, Coop?” asks Steve McQueen (d. 1980), who’s standing pat.

“The point is you never went out at night, walked around town and hoped you’d run into trouble.”

“Uh-oh boys,” said Humphrey Bogart (d. 1957). “He’s talking about Trayvon Martin.”

“Well, I like to keep up,” says Gary Cooper. “I’ve got what they call a ‘Twitter’ thing.”

“What the hell is a Twitter thing?” demands the Duke.

“You keep up on what people are saying and thinking. And a whole bunch of them think the guy who shot Trayvon Martin is some kind of hero. See here? Some skinny woman named Ann Coulter tweeted, ‘Hallelujah!’”

“I never trusted a skinny woman,” said Robert Mitchum (d. 1997), who raises the bet a buck. “Except for Deborah Kerr in ‘Heaven Knows Mr. Allison,’ and she was a nun.”

“When people thought I shot Liberty Valance, they elected me to the Senate,” said Jimmy Stewart (d. 1997, the day after Robert Mitchum). “In fact....”

“Now Jimmy, don’t go saying any more,” says Coop. “That’s what they call a ‘spoiler alert’ now.”

“Fact is, it doesn’t make any difference who shot me when I was Liberty Valance,” said Lee Marvin (d. 1987). “I was a dead-eyed gunslinger. I was a bad dude. When Jimmy thinks he shot me, I had my gun pointed right between his eyes.”

“That’s my point,” says Coop. “The man who shot Liberty Valance wouldn’t have shot Liberty Valance if Liberty Valance hadn’t been armed. And not even a snake like Liberty Valance would have shot an unarmed man.”

There is a hush around the poker table.

“Are you telling me this guy Trayvon Martin wasn’t armed?” asks the Duke.

“Had a bag of candy and a can of iced tea,” said Coop. “Apparently he was fighting the guy who shot him.”

“With his fists?” asked Robert Mitchum.

“Not much,” said Coop. “He says he was getting pounded on and feared for his life. So he pulled on him.”

“Why didn’t he just kick his ass?” asks Steve McQueen.

“Supposedly he was a little soft.”

“So he shot him? And the jury didn’t hang him?” Lee Marvin says.

“No, they let him off. Said he was in reasonable fear of his life and nobody could prove he wasn’t.”

“Prove he wasn’t afraid?” asked the Duke. “So if you’re afraid, it’s OK to shoot an unarmed man?”

“In Florida and a bunch of other states,” explained Gary Cooper.

“What a bunch of candy-asses,” said the Duke. “Half the movies I made, I was in a bar fight. With people carrying guns. Are you telling me that all someone would have to do is claim he was afraid I was going to hit him with a chair and he could plug me?”

“That’s the law these days,” Coop said. “People are afraid of thugs.”

“Excuse me while I whip this out,” said Cleavon Little (d. 1992), pulling a DVD copy of “Blazing Saddles” out of his robe. “Those of you who shuffled off the mortal coil before 1974 may not have had a chance to view this work of art, but it explains many of the attitudes you’re discussing here today.”

“I saw that,” said McQueen. “You were the black sheriff that Hedy Lamarr sent to the town so the people would leave and he could run the railroad through it.”

“‘Hedley,’ but the rest is right,” said Cleavon Little. “But if I’d been walking through Sanford, Fla., in a hoodie with a bag of Skittles, they’d have thought I was a thug and this wouldn’t have been a comedy.”

“I hate to think people are still like that,” said Gary Cooper.

“Whatever happened to real cowboys?” asked John Wayne.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 26, 2013, 05:47:09 PM
http://omaralawblog.com/index.php/8-blog/7-why-zimmerman-juror-b-29-is-a-model-juror

26 Jul
Why Zimmerman Juror B-29 Is A Model Juror

A number of people have been asking for our response to Juror B-29’s remarks during ABC’s Robin Roberts' interview about the Zimmerman verdict. The big headline from the story is “George Zimmerman got away with murder,” but that is an inaccurate distillation of Juror B-29's statements. Rather, the substance of the juror’s other comments are more complicated and nuanced. Here’s a key exchange that got my attention:

Juror B-29 says, “For myself, he’s guilty, because the evidence shows he’s guilty.”

Robin Roberts asks for a clarification, “He’s guilty of?”

Juror B-29 responds, “Killing Trayvon Martin. But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can’t say he’s guilty.”

We acknowledge, and always have, that George killed Trayvon Martin. Over the last 15 months, we’ve heard from a lot of people who feel that anytime a life is lost at someone’s hands, the person responsible is guilty of SOMETHING. Indeed, it is natural to feel this way. In a self-defense case, however, that fact that the defendant committed a homicide is stipulated -- it is undisputed. However, self-defense is one of the instances under the law when homicide is justifiable. People may disagree with self-defense laws, but a juror’s job is not to decide what a law should be, her job is to apply the facts presented at trial to the laws they are instructed about. Based on her statement, it seems Juror B-29 looked at the law, and whether or not she agreed with the law, she did her job and made her decision on a legal basis. This is the essence of what we seek in a juror: the ability to use one’s common sense, apply the law to the facts, agree not to be swayed by sympathy or emotion, no matter how loudly it’s argued by the prosecutors, and decide a lawful and fair verdict.

When Robin Roberts asks Juror B-29 if she stands by her decision, she says, “I stand by my decision because of the law. If I stand by my decision because of my heart, he would have been guilty.” While that decision of guilt would have been an emotional one, it would not have been a legal one. We applaud her ability to maintain the distinction.

We don’t expect jurors to be heartless people. Every murder case starts with someone who has had their life taken, someone who leaves behind grieving loved-ones. Every loss of life is a tragedy, and we don’t ask jurors to be immune to that. But we do ask jurors not to reach their verdicts based on what their hearts tell them; for the verdict, a juror must set aside emotions and follow the law. Based on her comments, Juror B-29 accepted a tremendous burden, set her feelings aside, and cast a verdict based the evidence presented in court and on the law she was provided.

Any juror that follows Juror B-29’s process will deliver a fair and just verdict.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 26, 2013, 06:45:03 PM
ABC - A NETWORK WITH AN AGENDA?

Did George Zimmerman Get Away With Murder?
The media are reporting that a juror says Zimmerman is guilty of murder. That’s not true.
Friday, July 26, 2013


Did George Zimmerman get away with murder? That’s what one of his jurors says, according to headlines in the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, and dozens of other newspapers. Trayvon Martin’s mother and the Martin family’s attorney are trumpeting this “new information” as proof that “George Zimmerman literally got away with murder.”

The reports are based on an ABC News interview with Juror B29, the sole nonwhite juror. She has identified herself only by her first name, Maddy. She’s been framed as the woman who was bullied out of voting to convict Zimmerman. But that’s not true. She stands by the verdict. She yielded to the evidence and the law, not to bullying. She thinks Zimmerman was morally culpable but not legally guilty. And she wants us to distinguish between this trial and larger questions of race and justice.

ABC News hasn’t posted a full unedited video or transcript of the interview. The video that has been broadcast—on World News Tonight, Nightline, and Good Morning America—has been cut and spliced in different ways, often so artfully that the transitions appear continuous. So beware what you’re seeing. But the video that’s available already shows, on closer inspection, that Maddy has been manipulated and misrepresented. Here are the key points. .....

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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2013/07/did_george_zimmerman_get_away_with_murder_no_juror_b29_is_being_framed.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 26, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
Allen West: No One Ever Followed Me In A Mall Or Clutched Their Bag When I Got On The Elevator
July 21, 2013


“I am a black male who grew up in the inner city of Atlanta and no one ever followed me in a mall. I don’t recall any doors clicking when I crossed the street. And I never had anyone clutching their handbag when I got on an elevator. I guess having two awesome parents who taught me to be a respectful young man paid dividends.” – Allen West

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/07/21/allen-west-no-one-ever-followed-me-mall-or-clutched-their-bag-when-i-got-elevator


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 27, 2013, 04:23:16 PM
The Buckeye Firearms Foundation Raises $12K To Buy George Zimmerman Guns & Security Systems (Update: Appears Massive Denial of Service Attack of Website)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/27/the-buckeye-firearms-foundation-raises-12k-to-buy-george-zimmerman-guns-security-systems-update-appears-massive-denial-of-service-attack-of-website/

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An Ohio firearms group, the Buckeye Firearms Foundation, has raised $12,000 for George Zimmerman to be speant on guns and security systems. George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer, was found not guilty of murder and manslaughter earlier this month by a jury in the death of Trayvon Martin. However, since the verdict Zimmerman and his family have received countless death threats. This donation was also a reaction to Attorney General Eric Holder and the DOJ not giving Zimmerman’s gun back following his trial.  The check for $12,150.37 sent to George Zimmerman could also be used in his legal defense.
::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 28, 2013, 02:49:07 PM
I only read page one of this thread and am posting as such.

I've been hearing of 'white' Hispanics since birth, maybe because I am one.  I do not believe racism is any worse or better with the advent of our current administration.  What is different at this time is only the light shed upon it.

I do believe George Zimmerman's act that evening was one of profiling and, hence, racist.  He believed that night because Trayvon was black he must have been doing something illegal, he must have been on drugs, and he must have needed to be followed so he wouldn't get away. 

A person can be on the fence about their own perceptions on people of color and differing cultures, they can even be kind to folks of other races, then suddenly their inner deeply help convictions that they hide regarding what other races are likely to be doing manifests. 

This could be in many forms...  Muslims are terrorists, Chinese eat cats, blacks are violent criminals, whites are judgmental egoists, priests prey on children, Hispanic males beat their wives, etc...

All of the above is racist.  It exists.  We are conditioned to believe these things and on many an occasion violence in word and deed arise from these beliefs.   

Lastly, because there was no concrete evidence that a murder occurred does not mean a murder did not happen.  We are all entitled to our opinion and I, like juror B29 (who would have no reason to lie) believes a murder took place the night Trayvon died.  Many people believe all the blame should rest on a teenage boy when IMO the blame rests on the shoulders of a grown man acting like a coward and an imbecile who knew he was following a teenager.  I could have predicted the outcome and George Zimmerman, with his training, should have predicted the outcome of his ridiculous actions that night. 

BTW, I am from the north and visit the southeast.  Just returned, in fact.  Saw some confederate flags.  Saw firsthand racism in action.  Witnessed the shallow interactions between some whites and blacks where tension underlies those smiles and pleasantries.  There is deep distrust. 

It exists.  Why not talks about it?  Why not get to a point where it can all be laid on the table and healed?  Just because I do not agree with everyone's opinion I would not automatically believe them to be disingenuous.  The status quo is not working and it evident, especially in the deep south. 

**Note that the above is not indicative of ALL whites, blacks, or any other race though there exists enough to warrant an examination of the current culture of our country and how we can improve and heal it.  I personally abhor both the denial and the extreme of either side as each only adds to the confusion, obfuscation and polarity of an issue that with only a little enlightenment and clarity could allow for great leaps forward for our country and us as Her people.   


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 28, 2013, 06:58:02 PM
White Maryland Man Beaten & Robbed by Three Black Men in Racially Motivated Hate Crime Attack Who Yelled …“This Is For Trayvon!”

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/28/maryland-man-beaten-robbed-by-three-black-men-in-racially-motivated-hate-crime-attack-who-yelled-this-is-for-trayvon/

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Just curious, had George Zimmerman been found guilty, would “White” Hispanics been assaulting blacks in revenge attacks yelling, This is for George?

The vigilante Trayvon Martin mob was at it again this weekend. A Bethesda, Maryland white man was beaten and robbed by three black men. The 28 year old white man was attacked in the 1700 block of Euclid Street, Northwest, in Adams Morgan in an obvious racially motivated, bias, hate crime. The three thugs yelled “This is for Trayvon” as they beat and kicked the man. Who really thinks that these thugs watched or have any concept of the evidence presented during the George Zimmerman murder trial?

A note to Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, President Obama, Eric Holder, the New Black Panther Party, the NAACP,  blacks, the MSM and Democrats … This is what a hate crime looks like where some one’s Civil Rights are violated!!!
::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 28, 2013, 07:27:48 PM
I am a victim’s advocate. The jury determined that the evidence implied GZ acted in self defense in an attack by TM ... an attack not anticipated. That makes GZ the victim.

Racism or "Stand Your Ground" was never alleged by the Prosecution.

When GZ’s injuries are considered and the lack of injuries other than the self-defense wound sustained by TM is considered … it appears that jurors believed that GZ was telling the truth regarding the tragic chain of events.

Nevertheless … I am not rejoicing that TM was killed. I wish with all my heart that TM had survived that fatal wound and … the incident would have been a wake-up call for this young man to turn his life around. I am positive that Zimmerman wishes likewise.

Janet


IN A NUTSHELL!!

MUST WATCH – Bill Whittle: The wretched lynching of George Zimmerman
The Right Scoop on July 20th, 2013

http://therightscoop.com/must-watch-bill-whittle-the-wretched-lynching-of-george-zimmerman/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: sailcat on July 28, 2013, 09:14:21 PM
I only read page one of this thread and am posting as such.

I've been hearing of 'white' Hispanics since birth, maybe because I am one.  I do not believe racism is any worse or better with the advent of our current administration.  What is different at this time is only the light shed upon it.

I do believe George Zimmerman's act that evening was one of profiling and, hence, racist.  He believed that night because Trayvon was black he must have been doing something illegal, he must have been on drugs, and he must have needed to be followed so he wouldn't get away. 

A person can be on the fence about their own perceptions on people of color and differing cultures, they can even be kind to folks of other races, then suddenly their inner deeply help convictions that they hide regarding what other races are likely to be doing manifests. 

This could be in many forms...  Muslims are terrorists, Chinese eat cats, blacks are violent criminals, whites are judgmental egoists, priests prey on children, Hispanic males beat their wives, etc...

All of the above is racist.  It exists.  We are conditioned to believe these things and on many an occasion violence in word and deed arise from these beliefs.   

Lastly, because there was no concrete evidence that a murder occurred does not mean a murder did not happen.  We are all entitled to our opinion and I, like juror B29 (who would have no reason to lie) believes a murder took place the night Trayvon died.  Many people believe all the blame should rest on a teenage boy when IMO the blame rests on the shoulders of a grown man acting like a coward and an imbecile who knew he was following a teenager.  I could have predicted the outcome and George Zimmerman, with his training, should have predicted the outcome of his ridiculous actions that night. 

BTW, I am from the north and visit the southeast.  Just returned, in fact.  Saw some confederate flags.  Saw firsthand racism in action.  Witnessed the shallow interactions between some whites and blacks where tension underlies those smiles and pleasantries.  There is deep distrust. 

It exists.  Why not talks about it?  Why not get to a point where it can all be laid on the table and healed?  Just because I do not agree with everyone's opinion I would not automatically believe them to be disingenuous.  The status quo is not working and it evident, especially in the deep south. 

**Note that the above is not indicative of ALL whites, blacks, or any other race though there exists enough to warrant an examination of the current culture of our country and how we can improve and heal it.  I personally abhor both the denial and the extreme of either side as each only adds to the confusion, obfuscation and polarity of an issue that with only a little enlightenment and clarity could allow for great leaps forward for our country and us as Her people.   

Very well said! You are one of the few people left around here who refuses to call someone who shoots an unarmed teenager a "victim." You have been a voice of reason throughout this sad spectacle, and I appreciate it very much.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on July 28, 2013, 09:33:09 PM
I only read page one of this thread and am posting as such.

I've been hearing of 'white' Hispanics since birth, maybe because I am one.  I do not believe racism is any worse or better with the advent of our current administration.  What is different at this time is only the light shed upon it.

I do believe George Zimmerman's act that evening was one of profiling and, hence, racist.  He believed that night because Trayvon was black he must have been doing something illegal, he must have been on drugs, and he must have needed to be followed so he wouldn't get away.  

A person can be on the fence about their own perceptions on people of color and differing cultures, they can even be kind to folks of other races, then suddenly their inner deeply help convictions that they hide regarding what other races are likely to be doing manifests.  

This could be in many forms...  Muslims are terrorists, Chinese eat cats, blacks are violent criminals, whites are judgmental egoists, priests prey on children, Hispanic males beat their wives, etc...

All of the above is racist.  It exists.  We are conditioned to believe these things and on many an occasion violence in word and deed arise from these beliefs.    

Lastly, because there was no concrete evidence that a murder occurred does not mean a murder did not happen.  We are all entitled to our opinion and I, like juror B29 (who would have no reason to lie) believes a murder took place the night Trayvon died.  Many people believe all the blame should rest on a teenage boy when IMO the blame rests on the shoulders of a grown man acting like a coward and an imbecile who knew he was following a teenager.  I could have predicted the outcome and George Zimmerman, with his training, should have predicted the outcome of his ridiculous actions that night.  

BTW, I am from the north and visit the southeast.  Just returned, in fact.  Saw some confederate flags.  Saw firsthand racism in action.  Witnessed the shallow interactions between some whites and blacks where tension underlies those smiles and pleasantries.  There is deep distrust.  

It exists.  Why not talks about it?  Why not get to a point where it can all be laid on the table and healed?  Just because I do not agree with everyone's opinion I would not automatically believe them to be disingenuous.  The status quo is not working and it evident, especially in the deep south.  

**Note that the above is not indicative of ALL whites, blacks, or any other race though there exists enough to warrant an examination of the current culture of our country and how we can improve and heal it.  I personally abhor both the denial and the extreme of either side as each only adds to the confusion, obfuscation and polarity of an issue that with only a little enlightenment and clarity could allow for great leaps forward for our country and us as Her people.  

Very well said! You are one of the few people left around here who refuses to call someone who shoots an unarmed teenager a "victim." You have been a voice of reason throughout this sad spectacle, and I appreciate it very much.

So you only have a voice of reason if you don't agree with the juries verdict?

Racism should only be discussed with adults. Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, et all are hardly adults without an agenda. Also, racism is not the #1 issue with blacks or the black community, It is only a convenient excuse for race-baiters. Black on black crime is the issue, but some how that never gets mentioned because the race-baiters can't divide and make money that way.

Sorry, but I am a firm believer in its all about the content of one's character, not the color of one's skin. This is hardly the case to talk about character because as sad as it is that Trayvon is dead as it is a tragedy that he is, but his character was highly questionable.

Another thing Sailcat, as I posted in the FP comments, you ever make a comment like that again and question me you will be gone. And I do not want to hear any excuses.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on July 28, 2013, 10:43:22 PM
Very well said Red...this case is most definitely NOT one to remark on character.  I have to disagree that this was a case of racism UNTIL after Trayvon's death.  I happen to believe that I have a wonderful voice of reason too :)  I cannot even post about it on FB...without my black "friends" bully me.  I do mean friends...they have been my friend for years and years...I NEVER looked at them by the color of their skin...I'm all about a person's character...lately the character is ridiculous.  And this may not be appropriate right now with the hostility...but why am I watching a commercial...www.blackpeoplemeet.com  Why are we still separating one another?  Yes, racism still exists.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 29, 2013, 12:04:58 AM
Trayvon was not the only individual with actions that could be judged.  If character is an issue with the young Martin boy why is it no one here who agrees with the verdict has held Zimmerman accountable for any of his many, many questionable actions throughout his life? 

If my child did the things Zimmerman did I would be questioning what I did wrong.  I would be deeply ashamed of him.

To behave as if he graduated college knowing he did not?  Arrested for assault against an officer?  I don't care if it was dropped, that he was even arrested is a disgrace.  Working out and trying to learn how to fight in the ring after over a year and still not able to throw a punch or defend himself?  Lying to a judge about his assets?  Refusal to pay his debts, not once, not twice, but several times.  A restraining order request against him.  Unable to even become a police officer after years of trying.  Then, to top it all off, killing a teenage boy.  Going public and begging for money after doing so.

George Zimmerman has clear weakness of character and moral ineptitude. 



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on July 29, 2013, 12:12:29 AM
Trayvon was not the only individual with actions that could be judged.  If character is an issue with the young Martin boy why is it no one here who agrees with the verdict has held Zimmerman accountable for any of his many, many questionable actions throughout his life? 

If my child did the things Zimmerman did I would be questioning what I did wrong.  I would be deeply ashamed of him.

To behave as if he graduated college knowing he did not?  Arrested for assault against an officer?  I don't care if it was dropped, that he was even arrested is a disgrace.  Working out and trying to learn how to fight in the ring after over a year and still not able to throw a punch or defend himself?  Lying to a judge about his assets?  Refusal to pay his debts, not once, not twice, but several times.  A restraining order request against him.  Unable to even become a police officer after years of trying.  Then, to top it all off, killing a teenage boy.  Going public and begging for money after doing so.

George Zimmerman has clear weakness of character and moral ineptitude. 



That was what I thought we were all talking about...the lack of character in this case...in its entirety. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 01:25:43 AM
I am a victim’s advocate. The jury determined that the evidence implied GZ acted in self defense in an attack by TM ... an attack not anticipated. That makes GZ the victim.

Racism or "Stand Your Ground" was never alleged by the Prosecution.  Why?

When GZ’s injuries are considered and the lack of injuries other than the self-defense wound sustained by TM is considered … it appears that jurors believed that GZ was telling the truth regarding the tragic chain of events.

Nevertheless … I am not rejoicing that TM was killed. I wish with all my heart that TM had survived that fatal wound and … the incident would have been a wake-up call for this young man to turn his life around. I am positive that Zimmerman wishes likewise.

Janet


IN A NUTSHELL!!

MUST WATCH – Bill Whittle: The wretched lynching of George Zimmerman
The Right Scoop on July 20th, 2013

http://therightscoop.com/must-watch-bill-whittle-the-wretched-lynching-of-george-zimmerman/


May 28, 2013
New Evidence Shows Trayvon’s Life Unraveling


Consider this exchange between Martin and a female friend on November 21, three months before his death. After he told her he was “tired and sore” from a fight, she asked him why he fought.

MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me

FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?

MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot

FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee

MARTIN: I lost da 1st round :( but won da 2nd nd 3rd .

FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal

MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool….. he gone hav 2 see me again

FRIEND: Nooo… Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?

MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose

On November 22, the day after the MMA-style fight, Martin told a friend that his mother “just kicked me out” and that he had to move in with his father. When the friend asked why, Martin answered, “Da police caught me outta skool.”
“U a hoodlum,” said the friend. “Naw,” said Martin. “I’m a gangsta.”

Incredibly, his death would transform this wannabe gangster into a saintly little boy, or, in the words of Florida State Attorney Angela Corey, a “precious victim.

Read more:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/new_evidence_shows_trayvons_life_unraveling.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 29, 2013, 08:50:03 AM
 It does not matter even if Zimmerman was the Grand Dragon of the KKK and Martin was leader of Al-Queada, the only illegal acts that night were commited by Martin.
 It is not a crime to be impolite to minorities  yet.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 29, 2013, 02:02:59 PM
It does not matter even if Zimmerman was the Grand Dragon of the KKK and Martin was leader of Al-Queada, the only illegal acts that night were commited by Martin.
 It is not a crime to be impolite to minorities  yet.

That's your belief because you choose to believe the fairytales of a liar.

I choose to believe differently.  Murder is illegal and though it wasn't proven to the sitting jury it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

If Trayvon were a straight A shiny white boy and Zimmerman a black man it is my opinion your belief of what happened that night would be different.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 29, 2013, 02:08:06 PM
Skinny white dope smoking gold tooth punk that stole things and bragged about fights? They need put down too.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
Robert Zimmerman Warns that Civil Suit Against His George Zimmerman ‘Might not be very Flattering’ for Trayvon Martin’s Family

Could a civil trial against George Zimmerman by the family of Trayvon Martin be more problematic that a benefit?

Robert Zimmerman states that a civil suit brought against his brother George Zimmerman, in a wrongful death trial, could be very troubling to the family of Trayvon Martin and could lead to very unpleasant facts that were never a part of the criminal trial. The rules of evidence are much different in a civil trial than a criminal one and much of the evidence that was excluded from the second degree criminal trial where a jury found George Zimmerman not guilty, could be entered into evidence in a civil trial. Sometimes it’s best not to dig up all the fact that took place because they might not be very pretty and may not follow the narrative of a made up story by the media and prosecution of Trayvon Martin. We do not like to talk ill of the dead and the death of Trayvon Martin is a tragedy no matter how you look at it, but in the end, we can all agree that he was most likely not the angel that the media made him out to be. Why drag his past through another trial and open his entire life to cross-examination? I realize those that have hijacked this case don’t care, but is that what  the family of Trayvon Martin really want to do? Is “justice” really bringing up your child’s past to go after George Zimmerman because you feel wronged by a jury decision where there was no evidence to prove murder or manslaughter? That is the question that the family of Trayvon Martin will have to ask themselves.

Posted July 29, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/29/robert-zimmerman-warns-that-civil-suit-against-his-george-zimmerman-might-not-be-very-flattering-for-trayvon-martins-family/#comments





Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 03:02:31 PM
What is wrong with this picture?  IF the background of one is relevant … it would go without saying that the background of BOTH Martin and Zimmerman would be relevant. There does appears to be a prosecution and judicial double standard regarding the submission of evidence?

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN

Judge allows George Zimmerman school records into evidence
July 3, 201
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Judge Debra S. Nelson on Wednesday ruled in favor of a prosecution motion to admit Zimmerman’s school records, his job application to a Virginia police agency and his request to the Sanford police to go on a ride-along with officers.

Read more:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-murder-school-records-20130703,0,7831562.story
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Judge Rules Whether Trayvon’s Alleged Past Drug Use And School Suspension Permitted In Zimmerman Trial
May 28th, 2013


During a pre-trial hearing Tuesday afternoon, a Florida judge ruled that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot use the late Trayvon Martin’s alleged prior marijuana use, school suspension, past fighting, personal text messages or pictures during its opening statement in next month’s high-profile second-degree murder trial.

Read more:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/judge-rules-whether-trayvons-past-drug-use-and-school-suspension-permitted-in-zimmerman-trial/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 29, 2013, 04:00:13 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-trayvon-martin-parents-news-conference-20130727,0,6440417.story
Trayvon Martin's parents to join National Bar for news conference today
July 29, 2013

Trayvon Martin's parents will make at least two public appearances this week as controversy continues following the not-guilty verdict in George Zimmerman's murder trial.

Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, along with their attorney Benjamin Crump, are set to join others for a news briefing at the National Bar Association's annual conference in South Florida this morning.

According to a statement from the National Bar, the legal community and civil rights leaders will address "inequalities in the U.S. Justice System," at the 9 a.m. conference.

 ::snipping3::

Fulton and Tracy Martin are also expected to speak Friday during the National Association of Black Journalists conference in Kissimmee.

Rev. Al Sharpton will also be in attendance and will lead a session Thursday about coverage of the controversial case. That session includes Orlando Sentinel editor Mark Russell as a panelist.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 04:29:48 PM
Imagine if much of the evidence from Bill Whittle & ‘Afterburner’ … The Wretched Lynching of George Zimmerman … The MSM Participated in Criminal Fraud or Criminal Negligence was allowed to come into a civil trial?

Posted July 29, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/29/robert-zimmerman-warns-that-civil-suit-against-his-george-zimmerman-might-not-be-very-flattering-for-trayvon-martins-family/comment-page-1/#comment-4392930

+++++++

There was an agenda by the left from the getgo to portray George Zimmerman as a racist … the left and their major media network agents.

Zimmerman lawyer to move ‘asap’ against NBC News
Published: July 14 at 12:15 pm


Last night’s not-guilty verdict in the George Zimmerman trial will enable the neighborhood-watch volunteer to resume his case against NBC News for the mis-editing of his widely distributed call to police. Back in December, Zimmerman sued NBC Universal Media for defamation over the botched editing, which depicted him as a hardened racial profiler.

Here’s how NBC News, in a March 27, 2012, broadcast of the “Today” show, abridged the tape of Zimmerman’s comments to a police dispatcher on the evening of Feb. 26, 2012:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

The full tape went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/07/14/zimmerman-lawyer-to-move-asap-against-nbc-news/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 04:53:02 PM
“Lean,” A New Hip High
Sep 29, 2006


<snipped>

It’s more than a drug; it’s a culture. It’s what’s known on the street as "Lean," a highly addictive cocktail of cough syrup, cold medicine, alcohol and candy — so potent it makes you "lean" over when high.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2006/09/lean_a_new_hip_/


(http://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/lean-2-e1337766657695.jpg?w=640)


http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/25/warning-missed-sept-29th-2006-trayvon-martin-could-have-been-saved-but-no-one-noticed-he-was-just-like-thousands-of-other-children-from-detached-cultural-and-black-parenting/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 29, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 29, 2013, 07:13:11 PM
Skinny white dope smoking gold tooth punk that stole things and bragged about fights? They need put down too.

In the court of law the victims past (and it is conjecture that Trayvon 'stole' anything) is generally considered off limits unless it relates directly to the facts of the case.  So conjecture about stealing or bragging about fighting would not be allowed.

That is generally not true of the defendant.  A defendants past is more readily allowed during a trial.

We may not like it but that is the way it's always been.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on July 29, 2013, 10:29:04 PM
As far as Trayvon's past, even though it wasn't allowed in court...it still existed.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on July 29, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...

Yeah, but there is a payoff to keeping racism alive.  Unfortunately, MANY people want to keep it around.  But, I agree with you.  I'm so over it!  I don't recall hearing that George knew his skin color.  Anyway... 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 10:39:51 PM
“Do you know that Negroes are 10 percent of the population of St. Louis and are responsible for 58% of its crimes? We’ve got to face that. And we’ve got to do something about our moral standards,” DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. TOLD A CONGREGATION IN 1961. “We know that there are many things wrong in the white world, but there are many things wrong in the black world, too. We can’t keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves.”



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 10:40:07 PM
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

Booker T. Washington (1856-1915) - African American political leader, educator and author



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 29, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...

Yeah, but there is a payoff to keeping racism alive.  Unfortunately, MANY people want to keep it around.  But, I agree with you.  I'm so over it!  I don't recall hearing that George knew his skin color.  Anyway... 

George knew his skin color and he knew he was a teenager.  That is how he described Trayvon to the non emergency hotline.

It is a fallacy to believe racism doesn't exist.  The ONLY reason George Zimmerman followed Trayvon is because he was black.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 10:48:15 PM



When the Facebook comment of Tristan Breaux ... president of the Norfolk NAACP ... is consider ... it would would appear that Benjamin Todd is not speaking on behalf of of all NAACP membership.  In other words ... common sense does prevail in the Black community.

Janet

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NAACP asking Obama administration to pursue civil case against Zimmerman
Published July 14, 2013


The NAACP is asking the Justice Department to open a civil rights case against George Zimmerman, the Florida neighborhood watch captain acquitted Saturday night by a jury in the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous started the drive by posting a petition Sunday morning on the website MoveOn.org that is addressed to Attorney General Eric Holder

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/14/naacp-asking-obama-administration-to-pursue-zimmerman-civil-case/


Norfolk NAACP president under fire for Facebook post
July 13, 2013


NORFOLK

A Facebook post by the president of the Norfolk NAACP about the George Zimmerman trial has sparked criticism.

According to an image of the post shown on WAVY-TV, Tristan Breaux, 25, wrote, "I wonder why is it that we are always willing to say someone who clearly had a shaky past, was the victim. Are we blinded about why Trayvon was at his dad's house in the first place, and why he wasn't at home at the time he was shot? Please think logically and not racially."

<snipped>

Read more:
http://hamptonroads.com/2013/07/norfolk-naacp-president-under-fire-facebook-post


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 10:56:22 PM
Kevin Jackson Responds to Obama’s Racist Comments (video)
July 20, 2013


Kevin Jackson was interviewed by Tucker Carlson of Fox News regarding Obama’s “impromptu” drive-by at the recent White House press briefing, and he didn’t disappoint.

Jackson asked if Obama would like Trayvon to date his daughters, and also offered that Obama was trying to get back some “street cred” from blacks. See the interview here. .....

http://theblacksphere.net/2013/07/kevin-jackson-responds-to-obamas-racist-comments/




Independent thinking does prevails in the Black Community but many are intimidated from speaking out by the race-baiters who are on a mission of division.

Janet


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 11:07:34 PM
CNN’s Don Lemon Backs Up Bill O’Reilly: ‘He Doesn’t Go Far Enough’ In Criticizing Black Culture
July 27th, 2013[/b

<snipped>

Lemon played a clip of O’Reilly stating, “The reason there is so much violence and chaos in the black precincts is the disintegration of the African American family…Raised without much structure, young black men often reject education and gravitate towards the street culture, drugs, hustling, gangs. Nobody forces them to do that. Again, it is a personal decision.”

“Bill’s got a point,” Lemon said. “In fact, he’s got more than a point…In my estimation, he doesn’t go far enough.”

Lemon then listed five essential reforms black men need to make in their lives in order to improve themselves and their communities: hike up their pants, remove the n-word from their vocabulary, take care of their communities, finish high school, and lower the rate of children born out of wedlock.

<snipped>

Video:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don-lemon-backs-up-bill-oreilly-he-doesnt-go-far-enough-in-criticizing-black-culture/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 11:08:37 PM
It was not my intention to highlight my entire post.  I blew it.  I apologize.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2013, 11:11:04 PM


“I am a black male who grew up in the inner city of Atlanta and no one ever followed me in a mall. I don’t recall any doors clicking when I crossed the street. And I never had anyone clutching their handbag when I got on an elevator. I guess having two awesome parents who taught me to be a respectful young man paid dividends.” – Allen West (July 21, 2013)

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/07/21/allen-west-no-one-ever-followed-me-mall-or-clutched-their-bag-when-i-got-elevator


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on July 29, 2013, 11:58:49 PM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...

Yeah, but there is a payoff to keeping racism alive.  Unfortunately, MANY people want to keep it around.  But, I agree with you.  I'm so over it!  I don't recall hearing that George knew his skin color.  Anyway... 

George knew his skin color and he knew he was a teenager.  That is how he described Trayvon to the non emergency hotline.

It is a fallacy to believe racism doesn't exist.  The ONLY reason George Zimmerman followed Trayvon is because he was black.



I strongly disagree.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 30, 2013, 12:12:15 AM
"hike up their pants, remove the n-word from their vocabulary, take care of their communities, finish high school, and lower the rate of children born out of wedlock."
 
 I had those rules too. Plus " Don't punch strangers in the nose, they might not think it's funny"



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 30, 2013, 12:19:34 AM
CNN’s Don Lemon Backs Up Bill O’Reilly: ‘He Doesn’t Go Far Enough’ In Criticizing Black Culture
July 27th, 2013[/b

<snipped>

Lemon played a clip of O’Reilly stating, “The reason there is so much violence and chaos in the black precincts is the disintegration of the African American family…Raised without much structure, young black men often reject education and gravitate towards the street culture, drugs, hustling, gangs. Nobody forces them to do that. Again, it is a personal decision.”

“Bill’s got a point,” Lemon said. “In fact, he’s got more than a point…In my estimation, he doesn’t go far enough.”

Lemon then listed five essential reforms black men need to make in their lives in order to improve themselves and their communities: hike up their pants, remove the n-word from their vocabulary, take care of their communities, finish high school, and lower the rate of children born out of wedlock.

<snipped>

Video:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don-lemon-backs-up-bill-oreilly-he-doesnt-go-far-enough-in-criticizing-black-culture/


Every word of this is true.  It has nothing to do with the actions between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 30, 2013, 12:25:31 AM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...

Yeah, but there is a payoff to keeping racism alive.  Unfortunately, MANY people want to keep it around.  But, I agree with you.  I'm so over it!  I don't recall hearing that George knew his skin color.  Anyway... 

George knew his skin color and he knew he was a teenager.  That is how he described Trayvon to the non emergency hotline.

It is a fallacy to believe racism doesn't exist.  The ONLY reason George Zimmerman followed Trayvon is because he was black.



I strongly disagree.

So why do you believe Zimmerman followed Trayvon?

You don't think it's because "these effing punks, they always get away"?

George said it himself.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on July 30, 2013, 12:29:58 AM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...

Yeah, but there is a payoff to keeping racism alive.  Unfortunately, MANY people want to keep it around.  But, I agree with you.  I'm so over it!  I don't recall hearing that George knew his skin color.  Anyway... 

George knew his skin color and he knew he was a teenager.  That is how he described Trayvon to the non emergency hotline.

It is a fallacy to believe racism doesn't exist.  The ONLY reason George Zimmerman followed Trayvon is because he was black.



I strongly disagree.

So why do you believe Zimmerman followed Trayvon?

You don't think it's because "these effing punks, they always get away"?

George said it himself.

I wasn't there but my "perspective" is much different than yours. Those same words that you hear one way...well, I hear something entirely different.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't want the patient to get well."

Booker T. Washington (1856-1915) - African American political leader, educator and author



Amen !


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2013, 08:46:58 AM
“Do you know that Negroes are 10 percent of the population of St. Louis and are responsible for 58% of its crimes? We’ve got to face that. And we’ve got to do something about our moral standards,” DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. TOLD A CONGREGATION IN 1961. “We know that there are many things wrong in the white world, but there are many things wrong in the black world, too. We can’t keep on blaming the white man. There are things we must do for ourselves.”

Amen again!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2013, 08:57:43 AM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...

Yeah, but there is a payoff to keeping racism alive.  Unfortunately, MANY people want to keep it around.  But, I agree with you.  I'm so over it!  I don't recall hearing that George knew his skin color.  Anyway... 

George knew his skin color and he knew he was a teenager.  That is how he described Trayvon to the non emergency hotline.

It is a fallacy to believe racism doesn't exist.  The ONLY reason George Zimmerman followed Trayvon is because he was black.



I strongly disagree.

So why do you believe Zimmerman followed Trayvon?

You don't think it's because "these effing punks, they always get away"?

George said it himself.


Effing punks can apply to white, black, Hispanic etc. he did not say " these effing BLACK' punks always get away....
He did not put any race in his comment.
 Can u look at this case without "color" ? I am not in George's corner by any means but if George had shot a white boy in the scenario, would u still b so outraged?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 09:49:59 AM

I agree.  Many race-baiters ... including the major media networks ... have attempted to make GZ a racist from the getgo.  NO evidence/testimony was put forward by the prosecution that supported this allegation.  According to the defence's own witness who was speaking to TM immediately prior to the physical encounter with GZ testified it was TM who uttered a racial slur directed at the person following him.

Janet


Zimmerman lawyer to move ‘asap’ against NBC News
Published: July 14 at 12:15 pm


Last night’s not-guilty verdict in the George Zimmerman trial will enable the neighborhood-watch volunteer to resume his case against NBC News for the mis-editing of his widely distributed call to police. Back in December, Zimmerman sued NBC Universal Media for defamation over the botched editing, which depicted him as a hardened racial profiler.

Here’s how NBC News, in a March 27, 2012, broadcast of the “Today” show, abridged the tape of Zimmerman’s comments to a police dispatcher on the evening of Feb. 26, 2012:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

The full tape went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/07/14/zimmerman-lawyer-to-move-asap-against-nbc-news/


Key witness recounts Trayvon Martin's final phone call
June 27, 201
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<snipped>

Jeantel testified that as he neared the home of his father's girlfriend, Martin tried to lose Zimmerman.

"And then he said, 'That N-word is still following me now,'" said Jeantel. "I asked him how the man looked like. He just told me the man looked 'creepy.' 'Creepy, white' -- excuse my language -- 'cracker. Creepy [expletive] cracker."

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/26/justice/zimmerman-trial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 09:53:00 AM


Effing punks can apply to white, black, Hispanic etc. he did not say " these effing BLACK' punks always get away....
He did not put any race in his comment.
 Can u look at this case without "color" ? I am not in George's corner by any means but if George had shot a white boy in the scenario, would u still b so outraged?
 


I agree.  Many race-baiters ... including the major media networks ... have attempted to make GZ a racist from the getgo.  NO evidence/testimony was put forward by the prosecution that supported this allegation.  According to the defence's own witness who was speaking to TM immediately prior to the physical encounter with GZ testified it was TM who uttered a racial slur directed at the person following him.

Janet


Zimmerman lawyer to move ‘asap’ against NBC News
Published: July 14 at 12:15 pm


Last night’s not-guilty verdict in the George Zimmerman trial will enable the neighborhood-watch volunteer to resume his case against NBC News for the mis-editing of his widely distributed call to police. Back in December, Zimmerman sued NBC Universal Media for defamation over the botched editing, which depicted him as a hardened racial profiler.

Here’s how NBC News, in a March 27, 2012, broadcast of the “Today” show, abridged the tape of Zimmerman’s comments to a police dispatcher on the evening of Feb. 26, 2012:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

The full tape went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/07/14/zimmerman-lawyer-to-move-asap-against-nbc-news/


Key witness recounts Trayvon Martin's final phone call
June 27, 201
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<snipped>

Jeantel testified that as he neared the home of his father's girlfriend, Martin tried to lose Zimmerman.

"And then he said, 'That N-word is still following me now,'" said Jeantel. "I asked him how the man looked like. He just told me the man looked 'creepy.' 'Creepy, white' -- excuse my language -- 'cracker. Creepy [expletive] cracker."

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/26/justice/zimmerman-trial


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 09:54:25 AM
Klaas/Mod

Please delete post 274.  I messed up.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2013, 09:57:44 AM
I hope he sues NBC and gets lots of money.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 10:13:00 AM
I hope he sues NBC and gets lots of money.


 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 12:36:46 PM
Bill O’Reilly Blasts ‘Race Hustler’ Al Sharpton: You Have Failed. FAILED! Your Day Is Done! … Make a Lot of Money by Promoting Racial Division
 
I give Bill O’Reilly a lot of credit for discussing the situation for fear of being branded a racist …

Fox News Bill O’Reilly blasted Al Sharpton, the race hustler for his failure to help the black community and only promote racial division while making money in the process. Previously, O’Reilly did a talking points memo as to what the real problems were in the black community and was spot on. However, the race hustlers like Sharpton could never accept such comments because it did not promote racial divide and Sharpton could not turn a profit off it. It is a sad state of affairs when today’s Civil Rights activists are nothing more than agitators and the MSM gives them credibility. In the end, O’Reilly stated that Sharpton’s days are over, done! I could only hope so for the sake of the black community and racial peace in the United States.

Posted July 30, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/30/bill-oreilly-blasts-race-hustler-al-sharpton-you-have-failed-failed-your-day-is-done-make-a-lot-of-money-by-promoting-racial-division/comment-page-1/#comment-4393381


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 30, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
Cookie says:

Quote
Effing punks can apply to white, black, Hispanic etc. he did not say " these effing BLACK' punks always get away....
He did not put any race in his comment.
 Can u look at this case without "color" ? I am not in George's corner by any means but if George had shot a white boy in the scenario, would u still b so outraged?


I would be easily as outraged if it had been a white teen who was shot.  No question.

Color is of no matter to me however I'm not going to ignore the distrust I know exists between white and black people.  I'm not going to ignore that police arrest blacks more often for the same crime than they do whites.  I'm not going to ignore that blacks are given longer sentences for the same crime than whites.  Alagary himself stated he would avoid a gas station at night if a black boy in a hoodie were there and Island Monday believes Trayvon's parents consider themselves lucky he is dead. 

Trayvon Martin was profiled that night.  How anyone can deny that is really baffling to me and I can only believe that it's the race issue that is forcing people to deny it.  It seems to me that because a person is so reviled by the race issue they are actually making this about race by denying a profiling occurred.

In other words, all of this wishing George Zimmerman comes into a windfall of money, overlooking any outrageous mistakes he did or lies he told, overlooking his own weakness of character, disregarding all of his wrongdoings, is due to the angst that one certain race always tries to make everything about racism.

If Trayvon were a white boy and Al Sharpton were not involved would you be wishing George Zimmerman all of this money and ignoring what he is about and the kind of man he is?  I wouldn't want my kid hanging out with Trayvon Martin but I for damn sure would not have George Zimmerman as a friend or respect him as a neighbor.  I wouldn't want him as a police officer in my town and I wouldn't have my child on a team he coached.  I've got no problem stating those things about either individual. 

Race is an issue for damn near everyone commenting or posting on the matter.

If we want to go further into it we could surmise and discuss WHY blacks are given longer sentences and arrested more often.  That's a whole other discussion but it doesn't change what I've posted above.
 

 

 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 30, 2013, 01:06:00 PM
Bill O’Reilly Blasts ‘Race Hustler’ Al Sharpton: You Have Failed. FAILED! Your Day Is Done! … Make a Lot of Money by Promoting Racial Division
 
I give Bill O’Reilly a lot of credit for discussing the situation for fear of being branded a racist …

Fox News Bill O’Reilly blasted Al Sharpton, the race hustler for his failure to help the black community and only promote racial division while making money in the process. Previously, O’Reilly did a talking points memo as to what the real problems were in the black community and was spot on. However, the race hustlers like Sharpton could never accept such comments because it did not promote racial divide and Sharpton could not turn a profit off it. It is a sad state of affairs when today’s Civil Rights activists are nothing more than agitators and the MSM gives them credibility. In the end, O’Reilly stated that Sharpton’s days are over, done! I could only hope so for the sake of the black community and racial peace in the United States.

Posted July 30, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/30/bill-oreilly-blasts-race-hustler-al-sharpton-you-have-failed-failed-your-day-is-done-make-a-lot-of-money-by-promoting-racial-division/comment-page-1/#comment-4393381


Al Sharpton's days are numbered.  Hopefully that's the other thing Trayvon's death will have done... force us to look at not only ourselves but hold those in the public eye accountable.

Sabryna and Tracy are in a unique position to make positive change on many fronts.  I'm curious what path they will take doing so.  I'm curious if it will entail distancing themselves from Al.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 30, 2013, 01:12:31 PM
I guess I am now free to read peoples minds. If I think they are profiling me as a big old redneck I can feel free to stomp the sh** out of them. I gots my rights!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 30, 2013, 01:24:50 PM
I guess I am now free to read peoples minds. If I think they are profiling me as a big old redneck I can feel free to stomp the sh** out of them. I gots my rights!

If a man with 50 pounds on me followed me in his rig then on foot (fast enough that he's breathing heavily so probably running after me) and came up on me in the dark without letting me know who he was or why he was following it wouldn't feel like I was reading his mind, it would feel very much like I was being threatened and a fight or flight reaction would immediately kick in.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on July 30, 2013, 01:38:38 PM
28 lb difference. 158-185. 5'11"-5'7" But the main thing is WHO COMMITED THE ONLY ILLEGAL ACT?  You always dodge that question and go off in another direction.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 02:07:49 PM
I guess I am now free to read peoples minds. If I think they are profiling me as a big old redneck I can feel free to stomp the sh** out of them. I gots my rights!

If a man with 50 pounds on me followed me in his rig then on foot (fast enough that he's breathing heavily so probably running after me) and came up on me in the dark without letting me know who he was or why he was following it wouldn't feel like I was reading his mind, it would feel very much like I was being threatened and a fight or flight reaction would immediately kick in.


Amy Sister ... I agree!!

Could it be that TM felt threatened by GZ who failed to identify himself as security?  Could it be that TM's street wise response was to defend himself against what he perceived as a threat ... not attempt to outrun GZ?  Could it be that GZ injuries imply that he was unable to defend himself from the the sudden attack that was not anticipated?  In other words ... as put forward by the defence ... self-defence was the motive behind the shooting ... not race ... not stand your ground.

As stated prior ... I wish with all my heart that TM had survived that wound inflicted by GZ.  I also believe with all my heart that GZ in all probability wishes the same.  Think about it.  The incident could have been the catalyst that served in turning this young man's life away from the the destructive path he was going down.

Janet


Florida judge limits texts, photos in Trayvon Martin case
Published May 28, 2013


<snipped>

The judge also ruled that some of the Martin's texts and other social media statements won't be allowed in opening statements, though some of his personal material could be allowed later depending on how the case progresses.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, told the judge that Martin's marijuana use and past fighting was central to the argument that Zimmerman used self-defense when he confronted Martin last year at a gated community in Sanford, Fla.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/28/prosecutors-zimmerman-attorneys-due-in-court/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 02:20:39 PM
REMINDER

May 28, 2013
New Evidence Shows Trayvon’s Life Unraveling


Consider this exchange between Martin and a female friend on November 21, three months before his death. After he told her he was “tired and sore” from a fight, she asked him why he fought.

MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me

FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?

MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot

FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee

MARTIN: I lost da 1st round Sad but won da 2nd nd 3rd .

FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal

MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool….. he gone hav 2 see me again

FRIEND: Nooo… Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?

MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose

On November 22, the day after the MMA-style fight, Martin told a friend that his mother “just kicked me out” and that he had to move in with his father. When the friend asked why, Martin answered, “Da police caught me outta skool.”
“U a hoodlum,” said the friend. “Naw,” said Martin. “I’m a gangsta.”

Incredibly, his death would transform this wannabe gangster into a saintly little boy, or, in the words of Florida State Attorney Angela Corey, a “precious victim.

Read more:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/new_evidence_shows_trayvons_life_unraveling.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2013, 04:28:11 PM
I guess I am now free to read peoples minds. If I think they are profiling me as a big old redneck I can feel free to stomp the sh** out of them. I gots my rights!

If a man with 50 pounds on me followed me in his rig then on foot (fast enough that he's breathing heavily so probably running after me) and came up on me in the dark without letting me know who he was or why he was following it wouldn't feel like I was reading his mind, it would feel very much like I was being threatened and a fight or flight reaction would immediately kick in.


Amy Sister ... I agree!!

Could it be that TM felt threatened by GZ who failed to identify himself as security?  Could it be that TM's street wise response was to defend himself against what he perceived as a threat ... not attempt to outrun GZ?  Could it be that GZ injuries imply that he was unable to defend himself from the the sudden attack that was not anticipated?  In other words ... as put forward by the defence ... self-defence was the motive behind the shooting ... not race ... not stand your ground.

As stated prior ... I wish with all my heart that TM had survived that wound inflicted by GZ.  I also believe with all my heart that GZ in all probability wishes the same.  Think about it.  The incident could have been the catalyst that served in turning this young man's life away from the the destructive path he was going down.

Janet


Florida judge limits texts, photos in Trayvon Martin case
Published May 28, 2013


<snipped>

The judge also ruled that some of the Martin's texts and other social media statements won't be allowed in opening statements, though some of his personal material could be allowed later depending on how the case progresses.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, told the judge that Martin's marijuana use and past fighting was central to the argument that Zimmerman used self-defense when he confronted Martin last year at a gated community in Sanford, Fla.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/28/prosecutors-zimmerman-attorneys-due-in-court/



Janet...that is similiar to my feeling as well. They fought..GZ was getting the crap beat out of him and pulled his gun to protect himself. I do not think that GZ meant to kill Trayvon..if he would not have had a gun that night, we could have had a very different case. Trayvon might b on trial for beating GZ up...and could have been sent to jail? Or would it have been stand your ground defense then?
I wish that GZ would have identified himself, that Trayvon would have said, hey man, I am just going over to my dads place and continued on his way. Mostly I wish that Trayvon would have survived.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on July 30, 2013, 05:30:21 PM
Cookie says:

Quote
Effing punks can apply to white, black, Hispanic etc. he did not say " these effing BLACK' punks always get away....
He did not put any race in his comment.
 Can u look at this case without "color" ? I am not in George's corner by any means but if George had shot a white boy in the scenario, would u still b so outraged?


I would be easily as outraged if it had been a white teen who was shot.  No question.

Color is of no matter to me however I'm not going to ignore the distrust I know exists between white and black people.  I'm not going to ignore that police arrest blacks more often for the same crime than they do whites.  I'm not going to ignore that blacks are given longer sentences for the same crime than whites.  Alagary himself stated he would avoid a gas station at night if a black boy in a hoodie were there and Island Monday believes Trayvon's parents consider themselves lucky he is dead. 

Trayvon Martin was profiled that night.  How anyone can deny that is really baffling to me and I can only believe that it's the race issue that is forcing people to deny it.  It seems to me that because a person is so reviled by the race issue they are actually making this about race by denying a profiling occurred.

In other words, all of this wishing George Zimmerman comes into a windfall of money, overlooking any outrageous mistakes he did or lies he told, overlooking his own weakness of character, disregarding all of his wrongdoings, is due to the angst that one certain race always tries to make everything about racism.

If Trayvon were a white boy and Al Sharpton were not involved would you be wishing George Zimmerman all of this money and ignoring what he is about and the kind of man he is?  I wouldn't want my kid hanging out with Trayvon Martin but I for damn sure would not have George Zimmerman as a friend or respect him as a neighbor.  I wouldn't want him as a police officer in my town and I wouldn't have my child on a team he coached.  I've got no problem stating those things about either individual. 

Race is an issue for damn near everyone commenting or posting on the matter.

If we want to go further into it we could surmise and discuss WHY blacks are given longer sentences and arrested more often.  That's a whole other discussion but it doesn't change what I've posted above.
 

 

 

Please don't speak for me. My reasons for why I view the incident different than you is not as you suggest. I read your words and respect your point of view, but I won't be mean and belittle you for your perspective on this case. If what you say is true about longer prison terms for blacks and so on...well, obviously that needs to be addressed. It has nothing to do with this case. That's my opinion. I'm entitled to it. I respect it. I respect your opinion. That's all.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
I am not wishing GZ a whole bunch of money because of his part in this horrible mess. I am wishing him lots of money from NBC because they tried to put words into the 911 call that GZ made that made it sound racial when it was not. That was a horrible injustice to GZ and to the public. We need the truth on these kinds of cases, not hype from the media to try and make it a juicier story. And I feel this way about any color a person who is getting an injustice .



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 08:19:12 PM

Could it be that TM felt threatened by GZ who failed to identify himself as security?  Could it be that TM's street wise response was to defend himself against what he perceived as a threat ... not attempt to outrun GZ?  Could it be that GZ injuries imply that he was unable to defend himself from the the sudden attack that was not anticipated?  In other words ... as put forward by the defence ... self-defence was the motive behind the shooting ... not race ... not stand your ground.

As stated prior ... I wish with all my heart that TM had survived that wound inflicted by GZ.  I also believe with all my heart that GZ in all probability wishes the same.  Think about it.  The incident could have been the catalyst that served in turning this young man's life away from the the destructive path he was going down.

Janet


Florida judge limits texts, photos in Trayvon Martin case
Published May 28, 2013


<snipped>

The judge also ruled that some of the Martin's texts and other social media statements won't be allowed in opening statements, though some of his personal material could be allowed later depending on how the case progresses.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, told the judge that Martin's marijuana use and past fighting was central to the argument that Zimmerman used self-defense when he confronted Martin last year at a gated community in Sanford, Fla.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/28/prosecutors-zimmerman-attorneys-due-in-court/



Janet...that is similiar to my feeling as well. They fought..GZ was getting the crap beat out of him and pulled his gun to protect himself. I do not think that GZ meant to kill Trayvon..if he would not have had a gun that night, we could have had a very different case. Trayvon might b on trial for beating GZ up...and could have been sent to jail? Or would it have been stand your ground defense then?
I wish that GZ would have identified himself, that Trayvon would have said, hey man, I am just going over to my dads place and continued on his way. Mostly I wish that Trayvon would have survived.

Could it be that GZ did not have the opportunity to identify himself prior to an attack that was not anticipated?  Could it be the GZ had no intentions of connecting with TM ... just observing him until authorities arrived?  Maybe TM should have questioned GZ's motives rather than attacking.

Janet



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 30, 2013, 08:20:41 PM
I am not wishing GZ a whole bunch of money because of his part in this horrible mess. I am wishing him lots of money from NBC because they tried to put words into the 911 call that GZ made that made it sound racial when it was not. That was a horrible injustice to GZ and to the public. We need the truth on these kinds of cases, not hype from the media to try and make it a juicier story. And I feel this way about any color a person who is getting an injustice .



 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Anna on July 30, 2013, 08:57:19 PM
But where's the outrage for the 70 shot just in Chicago during the course of this trial?  Where is the MSM while this goes on month after month, year after year?

If some people can't race-bait, their outrage is very selective or even non-existent. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
 Good to see you Anna...agree with our post.

Also, my town of Rockford illinois has at least 1 or more shootings a night! Usually black on black as is Chicago! The race baiters need to help figure out what is going on in the black communities that is killing their own black youth. White people are not doing it, they r doing it to themselves....sad but true..


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2013, 10:34:51 PM
Your post, not our post..typo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: theboyzmom on July 31, 2013, 09:39:03 AM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...

Yeah, but there is a payoff to keeping racism alive.  Unfortunately, MANY people want to keep it around.  But, I agree with you.  I'm so over it!  I don't recall hearing that George knew his skin color.  Anyway... 

George knew his skin color and he knew he was a teenager.  That is how he described Trayvon to the non emergency hotline.

It is a fallacy to believe racism doesn't exist.  The ONLY reason George Zimmerman followed Trayvon is because he was black.



I strongly disagree.

So why do you believe Zimmerman followed Trayvon?

You don't think it's because "these effing punks, they always get away"?

George said it himself.

I have no idea where you live but come hang with me for a while. Punks where I come from are black, white and other colors. But even if GZ new he was black, so what?  When I get notice that a black kid robbed someone near me, I look at black kids with suspicion. When I get a report that a white kid did the same thing, I look at white kids. To many peole, the color of your skin is just as important in the description as the color of your hoodie, nothing more. Why do you think LEO give out calls like "W/M, black shirt"?  Just because one notices race, hair color, sex, etc, does not make on racist. In fact, I would argue that people that insinuate that just describing someone is evil are the REAL RACISTS.

Leaving that aside, I think GZ followed TM because he was tired of being a victim, of seeing his neighbors being victims. He may have went too far but I do not believe that he did it just to be a azzhole. I think he did it with good intentions to protect people and himself.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 31, 2013, 10:16:04 AM
I wish people would stop tryin to make this case about race.    Sigh...

Yeah, but there is a payoff to keeping racism alive.  Unfortunately, MANY people want to keep it around.  But, I agree with you.  I'm so over it!  I don't recall hearing that George knew his skin color.  Anyway... 

George knew his skin color and he knew he was a teenager.  That is how he described Trayvon to the non emergency hotline.

It is a fallacy to believe racism doesn't exist.  The ONLY reason George Zimmerman followed Trayvon is because he was black.



I strongly disagree.

So why do you believe Zimmerman followed Trayvon?

You don't think it's because "these effing punks, they always get away"?

George said it himself.

I have no idea where you live but come hang with me for a while. Punks where I come from are black, white and other colors. But even if GZ new he was black, so what?  When I get notice that a black kid robbed someone near me, I look at black kids with suspicion. When I get a report that a white kid did the same thing, I look at white kids. To many peole, the color of your skin is just as important in the description as the color of your hoodie, nothing more. Why do you think LEO give out calls like "W/M, black shirt"?  Just because one notices race, hair color, sex, etc, does not make on racist. In fact, I would argue that people that insinuate that just describing someone is evil are the REAL RACISTS.

Leaving that aside, I think GZ followed TM because he was tired of being a victim, of seeing his neighbors being victims. He may have went too far but I do not believe that he did it just to be a azzhole. I think he did it with good intentions to protect people and himself.

Agree.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Green Eyes on July 31, 2013, 10:19:28 AM
TBM posted....I have no idea where you live but come hang with me for a while. Punks where I come from are black, white and other colors. But even if GZ new he was black, so what?  When I get notice that a black kid robbed someone near me, I look at black kids with suspicion. When I get a report that a white kid did the same thing, I look at white kids. To many peole, the color of your skin is just as important in the description as the color of your hoodie, nothing more. Why do you think LEO give out calls like "W/M, black shirt"?  Just because one notices race, hair color, sex, etc, does not make on racist. In fact, I would argue that people that insinuate that just describing someone is evil are the REAL RACISTS.

Leaving that aside, I think GZ followed TM because he was tired of being a victim, of seeing his neighbors being victims. He may have went too far but I do not believe that he did it just to be a azzhole. I think he did it with good intentions to protect people and himself.
================================================================================

I agree TBM 

I have not  posted much on this thread. But read all the time.  While we each have the right to our opinions and I respect  that right. 

While I feel bad that a TM lost his life and there are a lot of what IFS. It was bad choices from both sides. But GZ had every right under the Florida law to protect himself.  Like TBM said GZ didn't set out to kill TM.

The media and others have made this into a race issue and it never should have been. I often wonder if Martin Luther King isn’t rolling over in his grave with all the BS going on.  These few money hungry and power hungry people have done more to sit back what MLK worked so hard to accomplish.

You can’t demand respect from someone you have to earn it.  I don’t see these people trying to earn it. Yes there is still many racist people out there. You will never get rid of it. That’s human nature.  While in the past great wrongs have been done to many people.  We have been moving forward. 

I was raised not to judge anyone by the color of their skin or nationality but how they acted. I grew up in a diverse neighborhood. Have had and have friends from many walks of life. The one thing we all have/had in common is that we all worked at being better people and the love for our families and country.  Yes worked  at being better people. Not one of us demanded to be respected  we all earned it.

So when someone calls me a racist because I don’t see  GZ as a hater and a racist. To me is showing that they  don’t respect others opinions,  But I have to respect theres. There is something wrong with that picture. The media and others calling TM a little boy. He was not a little boy he was a young man not this innocent child they are still trying project him as. Like I said bad choices were made by both GZ & TM.  But to say GZ is totally at fault and  he was profiling TM is not right.

I was once told by a friend in Florida  who happened to be black that I should never go to Miami  bye myself without her. As I would be to big of a target being I was white. That it wasn't safe.  So who was being the racist there. It is on both sides but it seems only whites are being called out on it.  Why is that?

All just my opinion.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 31, 2013, 12:00:21 PM
My sister was married to a wonderful black man with whom they have a daughter with.
Guess who gave them the most grief of being together? The black community! Nasty insults at my sister for not being with 'her own kind'
Racism is very strong in the black community against white people. Our family has seen it first hand. Even though my sister is now divorced from him, I still admire and like him. I have a beautiful biracial niece.....
There r good and bad in all races.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 31, 2013, 05:24:34 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/31/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE96U19H20130731

George Zimmerman pulled over by Texas police, warned for speeding
AUSTIN, Texas | Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:59pm EDT

(Reuters) - George Zimmerman, a volunteer watchman whose acquittal in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin led to protests, was pulled over by police in Texas on Sunday for speeding, officials said on Wednesday.

Zimmerman told the officer that he had a weapon in his glove compartment and was going "nowhere in particular," said Brian Brooks, city manager of Forney, Texas, about 25 miles southeast of Dallas, where Zimmerman was stopped.

The gun in the glove box is legal in Texas, and police routinely ask motorists if they have weapons in the car, Brooks said. He said the entire stop lasted less than five minutes.

"It wasn't for super-excessive speeds, they just got him on regular speeding," Brooks said. "It's a pretty routine stop except for the fact that it was George Zimmerman."

Zimmerman was released when it was determined that he had no warrants.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57596401-504083/george-zimmerman-armed-when-stopped-for-speeding-in-texas-report-says/

July 31, 2013 4:01 PM 
George Zimmerman armed when stopped for speeding in Texas, report says

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At some point during the traffic stop, Zimmerman asked the officer whether he recognized him from television and the officer said he did not, the station reports.

When asked where he was going, the 29-year-old Zimmerman reportedly told the officer, no place in particular. He was released on a warning.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 31, 2013, 05:27:52 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/florida-gov-rick-scott-criticizes-jesse-jackson-over-george-zimmerman-protest/-/1637132/21262432/-/vmslhx/-/index.html

Florida Gov. Rick Scott criticizes Jesse Jackson over George Zimmerman protest
Published On: Jul 31 2013 01:11:05 PM EDT   Updated On: Jul 31 2013 01:14:26 PM EDT

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - 
Florida Gov. Rick Scott is sharply criticizing Jesse Jackson over comments he made while joining a Capitol protest.

Jackson spent time this week with a group upset with the verdict in the George Zimmerman trial. They've refused to leave the Capitol until Scott calls a special session and asks legislators to overhaul the state's self-defense laws.

Scott so far has refused the request.

The veteran activist criticized the state as the "Selma of our time" and made a comparison of Scott to former Alabama Gov. George Wallace. Selma, Alabama was the site of civil rights protests and clashes with police during the `60s.

Scott in a release blasted Jackson's comments as "reckless" and "divisive." He says that Jackson should apologize for his remarks, which he also called insulting.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on July 31, 2013, 08:11:48 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/florida-gov-rick-scott-criticizes-jesse-jackson-over-george-zimmerman-protest/-/1637132/21262432/-/vmslhx/-/index.html

Florida Gov. Rick Scott criticizes Jesse Jackson over George Zimmerman protest
Published On: Jul 31 2013 01:11:05 PM EDT   Updated On: Jul 31 2013 01:14:26 PM EDT

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - 
Florida Gov. Rick Scott is sharply criticizing Jesse Jackson over comments he made while joining a Capitol protest.

Jackson spent time this week with a group upset with the verdict in the George Zimmerman trial. They've refused to leave the Capitol until Scott calls a special session and asks legislators to overhaul the state's self-defense laws.

Scott so far has refused the request.

The veteran activist criticized the state as the "Selma of our time" and made a comparison of Scott to former Alabama Gov. George Wallace. Selma, Alabama was the site of civil rights protests and clashes with police during the `60s.

Scott in a release blasted Jackson's comments as "reckless" and "divisive." He says that Jackson should apologize for his remarks, which he also called insulting.
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Jackson is an ass and probably as crooked as his son who I hope is going to jail or fraud among other things. Sheister!
Jesse Jackson needs to come to Chicago and straighten out the mess there where black boys are being murdered nightly. Grrrrrrr!


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Post by: Tamikosmom on July 31, 2013, 10:19:22 PM
LA Becomes One Of The 1st US Cities To Back Federal Probe Into Death Of Trayvon Martin
July 31, 2013 2:29 PM


LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Civil rights leaders on Wednesday hailed the passage of a Los Angeles City Council resolution calling for federal prosecutors to investigate the death of Florida teen Trayvon Martin.

In a 13-0 vote, the Council passed the resolution by Councilmember Bernard Parks, which urged the U.S. Department of Justice and the Attorney General to conduct an investigation into possible civil rights violations in Martin’s death.

The vote makes L.A. one of the first U.S. cities to formally endorse a federal civil rights probe announced by U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder in July.

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http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/07/31/la-becomes-1st-city-to-back-federal-probe-into-death-of-trayvon-martin/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 31, 2013, 10:42:32 PM
BOOM! @MichelleMalkin TORCHES Al Sharpton, says “he’s got blood on his hands”
July 31st, 2013

I’ve never heard anyone, so articulately, put such a fine a point on the race-hustler Al Sharpton and his National Action Network. She totally destroys him.

Watch: .....

http://therightscoop.com/boom-michellemalkin-torches-al-sharpton-says-hes-got-blood-on-his-hands/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on July 31, 2013, 11:18:34 PM
BOOM! @MichelleMalkin TORCHES Al Sharpton, says “he’s got blood on his hands”
July 31st, 2013

I’ve never heard anyone, so articulately, put such a fine a point on the race-hustler Al Sharpton and his National Action Network. She totally destroys him.

Watch: .....

http://therightscoop.com/boom-michellemalkin-torches-al-sharpton-says-hes-got-blood-on-his-hands/


Wow. Just wow.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 01, 2013, 09:36:38 AM
BOOM! @MichelleMalkin TORCHES Al Sharpton, says “he’s got blood on his hands”
July 31st, 2013

I’ve never heard anyone, so articulately, put such a fine a point on the race-hustler Al Sharpton and his National Action Network. She totally destroys him.

Watch: .....

http://therightscoop.com/boom-michellemalkin-torches-al-sharpton-says-hes-got-blood-on-his-hands/


Wow. Just wow.

Wow is right! Sooooooo true as well


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 01, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/01/3536816/trayvon-martins-parents-meet-with.html

Posted on Thursday, 08.01.13
Trayvon Martin’s parents meet with federal authorities in Miami

The parents of Trayvon Martin and their lawyer met with Justice Department prosecutors and FBI agents at the U.S. attorney’s office in Miami Wednesday to discuss the status of a criminal civil-rights investigation into the fatal shooting of their teen-age son last year.

The federal investigation, which was opened while George Zimmerman faced prosecution for the death of the 17-year-old, gained renewed interest last month after Zimmerman was acquitted in state court of Martin’s killing in a Sanford gated community.

Prosecutors with the Justice Department’s criminal civil-rights section and FBI agents from Central Florida met with the late teen’s parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, and their attorney, Benjamin Crump, to bring the family up to speed, according to sources familiar with the meeting.

The meeting was held in Miami to accommodate the parents. Trayvon had lived with his mother in Miami Gardens before his death, which occurred while he was visiting his father in Sanford.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 02, 2013, 12:09:41 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-angela-corey-lawsuit-20130802,0,4355328.story

Angela Corey fired tech director in Zimmerman trial retaliation, lawsuit says
7:35 a.m. EDT, August 2, 2013

The former information technology director for State Attorney Angela Corey is suing for wrongful termination.

Ben Kruidbos sued Corey's office Thursday saying he was illegally fired in June after he testified that prosecutors did not turn over all information to George Zimmerman's defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

He is asking for $5 million or more in damages and his job back.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 02, 2013, 12:35:05 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-angela-corey-lawsuit-20130802,0,4355328.story

Angela Corey fired tech director in Zimmerman trial retaliation, lawsuit says
7:35 a.m. EDT, August 2, 2013

The former information technology director for State Attorney Angela Corey is suing for wrongful termination.

Ben Kruidbos sued Corey's office Thursday saying he was illegally fired in June after he testified that prosecutors did not turn over all information to George Zimmerman's defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

He is asking for $5 million or more in damages and his job back.
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The timing of the Ben Kruidbos' dismissal implies that State Attorney Angela Corey was sending an underlying warning to other Prosecution witness and/or State employees who may be tempted to expose any concerns over the State's handling of the TM investigation.  IMO

Janet

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State Attorney Angela Corey fires information techonology director who raised concerns in Trayvon Martin case
July 13, 2013


Ben Kruidbos, an IT worker from the state attorney's office, testifies during a hearing in the George Zimmerman case in Sanford on June 6.

State Attorney Angela Corey fired her office’s information technology director Friday after he testified last month about being concerned prosecutors did not turn over information to George Zimmerman’s defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

On the same day attorneys finished their closing arguments in that nationally watched trial, a state attorney investigator went to Ben Kruidbos’ home about 7:30 a.m. to hand-deliver a letter stating Kruidbos “can never again be trusted to step foot in this office.”

The letter contended Kruibos did a poor job overseeing the information technology department, violated public records law for retaining documents, and noted he was questioned in March when the office was trying to determine who had leaked personnel information obtained through a computer breach. ....

Before Kruidbos’ name surfaced in the Martin trial proceedings, he received a pay raise for “meritorious performance,” according to a document dated May 16 in his personnel file.

But the dismissal letter written by Peek contends he did his job poorly as information technology director and said he should have asked someone in the office about his concerns regarding the Martin case.

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http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-07-13/story/state-attorney-angela-corey-fires-information-techonology-director-who


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 02, 2013, 12:39:50 PM
George Zimmerman Murder Trial “Race Politics” … State Attorney Angela Corey Fires IT Director Ben Kruidbos Who Raised Concerns in Trayvon Martin Case about Evidence Discovery

State Attorney Angela Corey has fired Ben Kruidbos, the IT director for the State of Florida, who raised concerns in the George Zimmerman murder trial in the death of Trayvon Martin. Last month Ben Kruidbos testified about his concerns that the prosecution did not provide information to the George Zimmerman defense team. Defense attorney Mark O’Mara has commented on numerous occasions and expressed his concern over the actions of the prosecution handing over information in a timely and proper manner.  So the obvious question that needs to be asked, why now? What a vengeful and bias effort on the part of Angela Corey. Some one does the right thing and makes mention of possible misconduct by the prosecution and for his efforts, he is fired. .....

Posted July 13, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/13/george-zimmerman-murder-trial-race-politics-state-attorney-angela-corey-fires-it-director-ben-kruidbos-who-raised-concerns-in-trayvon-martin-case-about-evidence-discovery/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 02, 2013, 12:46:39 PM

FORMER SANFORD POLICE CHIEF - BILL LEE

Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe ‘taken away from us’
Wed July 10, 2013


The George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked “in a number of ways” by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.

Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial, told CNN’s George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.

“It was (relayed) to me that they just wanted an arrest. They didn’t care if it got dismissed later,” he said. “You don’t do that.”

When Sanford police arrived on the scene on February 26, 2012, after Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they conducted a “sound” investigation, and the evidence provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene, he said.

It had nothing to do with Florida’s controversial “Stand Your Ground” law, he said; from an investigative standpoint, it was purely a matter of self-defense.

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/justice/sanford-bill-lee-exclusive/index.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 02, 2013, 12:53:04 PM

Ben Kruidbos and former Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee are both men of integrity.  Doing right is not always easy when there are personal consequences involved but it is always right.

Janet

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BILL LEE

Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe 'taken away from us'
July 11, 2013


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"I upheld my oath," Lee said. "I'm happy that at the end of the day I can walk away with my integrity."

One of his greatest regrets, he said, is that the Zimmerman investigation ultimately shattered his childhood dream to be police chief of the community where he was raised.

"It's a dream of a vision that is going to be unrealized," he said. "I'm at peace with it on most days. I'm a man of faith. But it stings.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/10/justice/sanford-bill-lee-exclusive
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BEN KRUIDBOS

State Attorney Angela Corey fires information techonology director who raised concerns in Trayvon Martin case
July 13, 2013


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He said he had acted in good faith about “genuine concerns.” He said he had been proud to work at the State Attorney’s Office and feared the letter would cripple his chances at finding another job to support his family, including a 4-month-old son.

“I don’t have any regrets,” he said, “but I am terrified about the future and what that will end up being".

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http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-07-13/story/state-attorney-angela-corey-fires-information-techonology-director-who


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 02, 2013, 01:12:57 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-angela-corey-lawsuit-20130802,0,4355328.story

Angela Corey fired tech director in Zimmerman trial retaliation, lawsuit says
7:35 a.m. EDT, August 2, 2013

The former information technology director for State Attorney Angela Corey is suing for wrongful termination.

Ben Kruidbos sued Corey's office Thursday saying he was illegally fired in June after he testified that prosecutors did not turn over all information to George Zimmerman's defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

He is asking for $5 million or more in damages and his job back.
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I hope he gets every cent and more!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 02, 2013, 01:19:10 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-angela-corey-lawsuit-20130802,0,4355328.story

Angela Corey fired tech director in Zimmerman trial retaliation, lawsuit says
7:35 a.m. EDT, August 2, 2013

The former information technology director for State Attorney Angela Corey is suing for wrongful termination.

Ben Kruidbos sued Corey's office Thursday saying he was illegally fired in June after he testified that prosecutors did not turn over all information to George Zimmerman's defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

He is asking for $5 million or more in damages and his job back.
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I hope he gets every cent and more!

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 02, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Video at the link

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmermans-attorney-still-seeking-sanctions-against-prosecutor/-/1637132/21313968/-/auuqqc/-/index.html

George Zimmerman's attorney still seeking sanctions against prosecutor
Published On: Aug 02 2013 07:37:12 PM EDT

SANFORD, Fla. - 
Attorney Mark O'Mara told a crowd of people he is still seeking sanctions against prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda, who was the lead prosecutor in George Zimmerman's murder trial.

O'Mara said he believes the office intentionally withheld evidence from the defense leading up to the trial.

The evidence includes a color photo that shows a bloody and bruised George Zimmerman after the shooting.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 02, 2013, 11:27:32 PM
Video at the link

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/zimmerman-attorney-details-battle-prosecutors-over/nZCRH/

Posted: 4:09 p.m. Friday, Aug. 2, 2013
Zimmerman attorney details battle with prosecutors over evidence in murder trial

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"You have this type of gamesmanship for the sole purpose of trying to deny a fair trial and, as it turned out, try to convict an innocent man," said O'Mara.

O'Mara has filed a motion that will be heard by Judge Debra Nelson.

He claims prosecutors purposely withheld evidence from him and the defense team.

Channel 9 has learned that O'Mara could go after Corey. She called Zimmerman a murderer on national television after the trial.

"He could bring civil action against Angela Corey for statement she made outside the courtroom. Also, he could file a grievance against her with the Florida Bar," WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

Sheaffer asked O'Mara whether he intends to drop the issue.

"I am not done with that motion. I'm not done with Angela Corey. And we are going to be seeing more of each other. We'll see how that turns out," said O'Mara. "This is because this is not supposed to be how we practice as lawyers."

Channel 9 contacted Corey's office for a response, but the call was not returned.


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Post by: grace-land on August 02, 2013, 11:38:18 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/martins-parents-take-no-stance-on-proposed-fla-boycott-following-acquittal-of-zimmerman/2013/08/02/a63bfbd8-fb91-11e2-89f7-8599e3f77a67_story.html

Martin’s parents take no stance on proposed Fla. boycott following acquittal of Zimmerman
(August 2, 2013)

ORLANDO, Fla. — The parents of Trayvon Martin said Friday that they are taking no stance on a proposed boycott of Florida following the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the fatal shooting of their son.

Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, said that opponents of Zimmerman’s acquittal have the right to express themselves, but that she and the teen’s father are neither supporting nor opposing the proposal.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 02, 2013, 11:42:15 PM
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-trayvon-martin-hoodie-smithsonian-20130802,0,7586678.story?track=rss

Smithsonian not 'currently' interested in Trayvon Martin hoodie
August 2, 2013, 1:58 p.m.

The Smithsonian on Friday dismissed reports that it aimed to acquire the hoodie that  Trayvon Martin was wearing when he was shot and killed by George Zimmerman, who was acquitted last month.

Reports swirled this week after the director of the planned National Museum of African American History and Culture expressed interest in the hoodie, which has become a  symbol for race relations in America.

“It became the symbolic way to talk about the Trayvon Martin case. It’s rare that you get one artifact that really becomes the symbol,” Lonnie Bunch told the Washington Post. “Because it’s such a symbol, it would allow you to talk about race in the age of Obama.”
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 02, 2013, 11:48:30 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-trayvon-martin-parents-black-journalists-20130803,0,1199780.story
Trayvon's parents continue call to amend 'stand your ground' laws
Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin appeared at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention

August 3, 2013

Comments (337 at time of posting the link at SM)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 02, 2013, 11:54:11 PM
August 2, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

 Terence Shepherd ‏@TerenceShepherd 7h
@sfbja reception for NABJ Emerging Journalist of the Yr @Yamiche Alcindor is tonight 6 till 8, St. Augustine's Rm 8095, Gaylord Palms
 Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Tracy Martin: We don't have time to grieve because we have to do work for others who are voiceless.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Sybrina Fulton: President Obama can identify with us and see himself in #TrayvonMartin

 NABJ Headquarters ‏@NABJ 9h
"If we lose hope, then everybody will lose hope. that would be the greatest disaster. - Tracy Martin… http://instagram.com/p/chVeYLt6dv/
 Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Daryl Parks: We have made a decision not to talk about how state attorneys prosecuted the case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Natalie Jackson: Some people didn't want to deal with race but we have to deal with these issues in America.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Sybrina Fulton: I really believe God is working in different ways. With the not guilty verdict "the story goes on."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Tracy Martin: The greatest disaster would be giving up hope after the verdict. #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Tracy Martin: It's very important that the name #TrayvonMartin mean something to our nation.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Sybrina Fulton says she is committed to making a difference and helping other families through the Trayvon Martin foundation.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
Sybrina Fulton says as parents they plan to help other parents of "senseless gun violence."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9h
The parents of #TrayvonMartin are now speaking at #NABJ13 along with attorneys @NatJackEsq and Daryl Parks.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 02, 2013, 11:57:37 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-08-01/story/former-it-director-sues-state-attorney-angela-corey-wrongful-termination#.UfwsgdsR7fw.twitter
Former IT director sues State Attorney Angela Corey for wrongful termination
Posted August 1, 2013, Updated August 2, 2013

The former information technology director for State Attorney Angela Corey is suing for wrongful termination.

Ben Kruidbos sued Corey’s office Thursday saying he was illegally fired in June after he testified that prosecutors did not turn over all information to George Zimmerman’s defense team in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

He is asking for $5 million or more in damages and his job back.

The lawsuit states Kruidbos could not be fired for testifying in a judicial proceeding in response to a subpoena. It also argues that the firing was retaliation for his testimony in the Zimmerman case.

“It’s important to understand that we’re not just saying my client was wrongfully terminated,” attorney Wesley White said. “We’re also saying that the state attorney broke the law.”

Florida law prohibits firing people for testifying in trials they’ve been subpoenaed to take part in, and that’s what Corey did to Kruidbos, White said.

The lawsuit should also send a message to Corey that she has no right to fire dedicated employees who are trying to do the right thing, White said.

The letter firing Kruidbos said he did a poor job overseeing the information technology department, violated public records law for retaining documents and noted he was questioned in March when the office was trying to determine who had leaked personnel information obtained through a computer breach.

It also said Kruidbos was not a lawyer and didn’t have the right to question the ethics and professionalism of the attorneys prosecuting the case.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 03, 2013, 08:19:49 AM
http://www.wfaa.com/news/education/Verdict-in-Trayvon-Martin-cases-inspires-scholarship-at-Paul-Quinn-College-218188082.html
Verdict in Trayvon Martin case inspires scholarship at Paul Quinn College
August 2, 2013

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Incensed by the legal protections that led to Zimmerman's acquittal for the killing of Trayvon Martin, Paul Quinn College, a historically black college in Southern Dallas, is offering the new $7,500 Scholarship for Social Justice to a student who shows potential to bring about change in the community and in the justice system.

"We're doing this because someone must stand up and say, 'No, not again - not ever again - and we are proud to be those people," Sorrell said.

Much of the funding comes from the Open Channels Group, a North Texas PR firm that specializes in multicultural communications. The outfit's president explains she couldn't just sit idly by after Trayvon Martin was killed and the shooter was acquitted.

"I just felt like, having a 7-year-old son, I needed to do something," said Open Channels Group PR President Tonya Veasey. "I think, like many parents, I tossed and turned at night wondering what it is I could do, and this is just the best way for being a part of the solution."

“I felt the best way to make a difference was to educate young black men and have them be a part of the justice system," Veasey added.

The college will begin taking applications for the Scholarship for Social Justice this fall.

Video at Link


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 03, 2013, 06:00:19 PM
http://www.wfaa.com/news/education/Verdict-in-Trayvon-Martin-cases-inspires-scholarship-at-Paul-Quinn-College-218188082.html
Verdict in Trayvon Martin case inspires scholarship at Paul Quinn College
August 2, 2013

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Incensed by the legal protections that led to Zimmerman's acquittal for the killing of Trayvon Martin, Paul Quinn College, a historically black college in Southern Dallas, is offering the new $7,500 Scholarship for Social Justice to a student who shows potential to bring about change in the community and in the justice system.

"We're doing this because someone must stand up and say, 'No, not again - not ever again - and we are proud to be those people," Sorrell said.

Much of the funding comes from the Open Channels Group, a North Texas PR firm that specializes in multicultural communications. The outfit's president explains she couldn't just sit idly by after Trayvon Martin was killed and the shooter was acquitted.

"I just felt like, having a 7-year-old son, I needed to do something," said Open Channels Group PR President Tonya Veasey. "I think, like many parents, I tossed and turned at night wondering what it is I could do, and this is just the best way for being a part of the solution."

“I felt the best way to make a difference was to educate young black men and have them be a part of the justice system," Veasey added.

The college will begin taking applications for the Scholarship for Social Justice this fall.

Video at Link

So, a white student need not apply.. I see...
First f all, there are no 'white' colleges that I am aware of, nor should there be. But if this was the case, that college would be sued for racism....double standard much?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 03, 2013, 07:51:11 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-20130803,0,4451621.story
George Zimmerman: Stand your ground will get committee hearing this fall
August 3, 2013

TAMPA — State House Speaker Will Weatherford says he'll ask a House committee to hold a hearing this fall on the state's controversial Stand Your Ground law.

The law has been heavily criticized since the July 13 not-guilty verdict in Seminole County for Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who claimed self-defense in the fatal shooing of unarmed, black Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin in Sanford in February 2012.

Weatherford's announcement, made in an opinion column published in The Tampa Tribune on Friday, is the first concrete move by the Republican majority in the Legislature toward considering changing the law, which has generated protests in the state's Capitol and calls from some Democrats for a special session of the Legislature to modify or repeal it.

The law also has drawn criticism of Florida among gun-control and civil-rights advocates nationwide, but Republicans and gun rights advocates have stanuchly defended it.

Weatherford, whose position as speaker makes him the most powerful member of the state House, said he'll ask Criminal Justice Subcommittee Chairman Matt Gaetz of Fort Walton Beach to hold a hearing on the law this fall.


That's not guaranteeing any changes, however.

"I don't expect that the Legislature's going to move one damn comma," Gaetz said.

Gaetz, who holds his chairmanship by Weatherford's appointment, said he'll hold the requested hearing and is working with committee member Rep. Kionne McGhee, D-Miami, on the schedule and format.

Legislative committee meetings in anticipation of the 2014 session begin the week of Sept. 23.
More...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 04, 2013, 12:07:28 PM
Early on in the trial I made the personal decision not to watch the anti-Zimmerman bias that spew from the mouths of JVM and Nancy Grace as well as their race-baiting talking heads.

Janet

++++


Post-Zimmerman Murder Trial: CNN and HLN Sink Like a Rock … CNN Drops 32% in Viewership and HLN Falls 50%

The reason why CNN and HLN lost viewers is simple. It is the same reason why they gained them. Both networks devoted much of their air time to a news story that many people wanted to watch. Obviously people were going to tune in to the daily trial and then watch the follow up of the pundits discussing the days activities, jury testimony, evidence presented, hosts opinions, guest analysis and court room antics. It only makes sense that when the carnival comes to town, people attend. However, when it is over, so is the viewership. People were interested in the trial, not post trial. That always happens when ever any big time trial plays on on TV. When the trial is over, the networks viewership sinks back to what they previously were prior to the inflated one’s caused by the trial in the first place. No matter the fact that Nancy Grace, Jane Velez-Mitchell, CNN and HLN wanted to cling on to their new found ratings even after the trial was over was not going to happen. In the end, it is simply a matter of supply and demand.

Posted August 4, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/08/04/post-zimmerman-murder-trial-cnn-and-hln-sink-like-a-rock-cnn-drops-32-in-viewership-and-hln-falls-50/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 04, 2013, 12:09:30 PM
http://www.wfaa.com/news/education/Verdict-in-Trayvon-Martin-cases-inspires-scholarship-at-Paul-Quinn-College-218188082.html
Verdict in Trayvon Martin case inspires scholarship at Paul Quinn College
August 2, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Incensed by the legal protections that led to Zimmerman's acquittal for the killing of Trayvon Martin, Paul Quinn College, a historically black college in Southern Dallas, is offering the new $7,500 Scholarship for Social Justice to a student who shows potential to bring about change in the community and in the justice system.

"We're doing this because someone must stand up and say, 'No, not again - not ever again - and we are proud to be those people," Sorrell said.

Much of the funding comes from the Open Channels Group, a North Texas PR firm that specializes in multicultural communications. The outfit's president explains she couldn't just sit idly by after Trayvon Martin was killed and the shooter was acquitted.

"I just felt like, having a 7-year-old son, I needed to do something," said Open Channels Group PR President Tonya Veasey. "I think, like many parents, I tossed and turned at night wondering what it is I could do, and this is just the best way for being a part of the solution."

“I felt the best way to make a difference was to educate young black men and have them be a part of the justice system," Veasey added.

The college will begin taking applications for the Scholarship for Social Justice this fall.

Video at Link

So, a white student need not apply.. I see...
First f all, there are no 'white' colleges that I am aware of, nor should there be. But if this was the case, that college would be sued for racism....double standard much?

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 04, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
Video at the link

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/8/2/george_zimmerman_def.html

George Zimmerman defense attorney Don West reflects on ice cream photo
Last Updated: Sunday, August 04, 2013, 6:44 AM

ORLANDO --
In the day of social media, it just takes a keystroke to have something go viral, which is what happened to a picture of Don West and his daughters having ice cream at the end of the day during the George Zimmerman trial.

West explained the ice cream treat was a long-standing family tradition.

He admitted that it was he who took the picture because he “had the longest arm.”

His daughter posted it online several days later with a comment many construed as an observation on the trial, specifically the evidence and a witness.

West called it unfortunate and said it was done without his knowledge or approval.

He said he talked to his daughter who he described as mortified.

West went on to say that if his daughter does owe someone an apology, she will, and he has encouraged her to apologize, something that couldn’t be done during the trial.
 ::snipping3::
West said he had no regrets about taking the Zimmerman case.

“I’ve loved every minute of it and hated lots of it at the same time.”

In the courtroom, West’s demeanor was low and deliberate on purpose.

With a smile, he said he’s just slow, but added that it takes him a while to process what’s being said and when he speaks, he wants to be accurate and precise and know what’s he’s talking about.

West said he does get angry in the courtroom, but he feels it shows a loss of control, which he said is important for any courtroom lawyer to maintain.

Looking back at the Zimmerman trial, his frustration was clearly evident at times. He said a lot of the case seemed “surreal.”

At times, West and Judge Debra Nelson seemed at odds and he was admonished a time or two.

He maintains that it came to a point where it didn’t really matter whether he and the judge were getting along and they were “chums.”

He had a job to do, West said, and whether he was liked at that moment was less important that standing up and doing that job.

West shared his views on race relations and his opinion that race did not have a role in the trial in an extended interview you can watch by clicking the link under the “Video Stories” headline.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 04, 2013, 01:07:25 PM
Early on in the trial I made the personal decision not to watch the anti-Zimmerman bias that spew from the mouths of JVM and Nancy Grace as well as their race-baiting talking heads.

Janet

++++


Post-Zimmerman Murder Trial: CNN and HLN Sink Like a Rock … CNN Drops 32% in Viewership and HLN Falls 50%

The reason why CNN and HLN lost viewers is simple. It is the same reason why they gained them. Both networks devoted much of their air time to a news story that many people wanted to watch. Obviously people were going to tune in to the daily trial and then watch the follow up of the pundits discussing the days activities, jury testimony, evidence presented, hosts opinions, guest analysis and court room antics. It only makes sense that when the carnival comes to town, people attend. However, when it is over, so is the viewership. People were interested in the trial, not post trial. That always happens when ever any big time trial plays on on TV. When the trial is over, the networks viewership sinks back to what they previously were prior to the inflated one’s caused by the trial in the first place. No matter the fact that Nancy Grace, Jane Velez-Mitchell, CNN and HLN wanted to cling on to their new found ratings even after the trial was over was not going to happen. In the end, it is simply a matter of supply and demand.

Posted August 4, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/08/04/post-zimmerman-murder-trial-cnn-and-hln-sink-like-a-rock-cnn-drops-32-in-viewership-and-hln-falls-50/

I stopped watching their shows as much too. Especially JVM


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 04, 2013, 05:38:22 PM
Early on in the trial I made the personal decision not to watch the anti-Zimmerman bias that spew from the mouths of JVM and Nancy Grace as well as their race-baiting talking heads.

Janet

++++


Post-Zimmerman Murder Trial: CNN and HLN Sink Like a Rock … CNN Drops 32% in Viewership and HLN Falls 50%

The reason why CNN and HLN lost viewers is simple. It is the same reason why they gained them. Both networks devoted much of their air time to a news story that many people wanted to watch. Obviously people were going to tune in to the daily trial and then watch the follow up of the pundits discussing the days activities, jury testimony, evidence presented, hosts opinions, guest analysis and court room antics. It only makes sense that when the carnival comes to town, people attend. However, when it is over, so is the viewership. People were interested in the trial, not post trial. That always happens when ever any big time trial plays on on TV. When the trial is over, the networks viewership sinks back to what they previously were prior to the inflated one’s caused by the trial in the first place. No matter the fact that Nancy Grace, Jane Velez-Mitchell, CNN and HLN wanted to cling on to their new found ratings even after the trial was over was not going to happen. In the end, it is simply a matter of supply and demand.

Posted August 4, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/08/04/post-zimmerman-murder-trial-cnn-and-hln-sink-like-a-rock-cnn-drops-32-in-viewership-and-hln-falls-50/

I stopped watching their shows as much too. Especially JVM

.... and JVM is Hispanic.

Cookie ... it was obvious that JVM and Nancy Grace caved to a CNN race-baiting bias throughout their respective coverage of the GZ trial.  Think about it.  Love them or hate them ... most trial coverages ... missing persons' suspects/investigations ... find JVM and Nancy Grace on the same side as the majority of Monkeys.  I am done with both of them and ... the GZ trial coverage is the reason.

Janet

++++++

Post-Zimmerman Murder Trial: CNN and HLN Sink Like a Rock … CNN Drops 32% in Viewership and HLN Falls 50%
 
Following the George Zimmerman murder trial, both CNN and HLN plummet back down to earth as CNN drops 32% in viewership and HLN falls 50%.

Obviously networks that devoted time to the George Zimmerman murder trial were going to see a gain in viewership during the trial. Both CNN and HLN did so. CNN showed the trial during the day, although many individuals most likely watched the live feeds on the internet from local Florida media. HLN also devoted a lot of time during the Zimmerman trial because many of their shows are crime related. It only made sense that their ratings would have increased, much the same they did during the Casey Anthony murder trail. I actually have to disagree, for one of the few times, with Breitbart’s analysis of the loss of viewership following the Zimmerman trial. The reason why CNN and HLN experienced a severe drop in viewership was not because of Nancy Grace and her anti-Zimmerman sentiment or that CNN lost viewers because of their refusal to call Zimmerman a Hispanic. It was not because many of the hosts and guests openly rooted against Zimmerman or continued to falsely call the murder of Trayvon Martin a racial hate crime. This was not a case of losing viewers during the trial, it was not until after. ....

Posted August 4, 2013 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/08/04/post-zimmerman-murder-trial-cnn-and-hln-sink-like-a-rock-cnn-drops-32-in-viewership-and-hln-falls-50/#comments




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on August 04, 2013, 06:46:23 PM
 Now most of the time I only watch the news to get a basic idea what I need to check further into. I then try to find the entire interview or testimony.
 For seeing a total difference watch Cspan and then see what gets shown at 6.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 04, 2013, 07:41:37 PM
http://www.theroot.com/blogs/nabj-elects-bob-butler-president

NABJ Elects Bob Butler President
August 4, 2013

Bob Butler, a multimedia reporter at KCBS radio in San Francisco and two-term vice president/broadcast of the National Association of Black Journalists, was elected president of the organization Friday as members learned that NABJ ran a deficit in 2012 and that its finance committee projected one for 2013 as well.
 ::snipping3::
Also at the convention, the parents of slain black Florida teenager Trayvon Martin said they "took the negative and tried to turn it into a positive" after volunteer night watchman George Zimmerman was acquitted of all charges last month after shooting their unarmed 17-year-old son.

"With a guilty verdict everything would be stopped," said Sabrina Fulton, Trayvon's mother. "But now the story goes on. There are a number of things we can do. Just the fact that so many people united during the rallies. Just the fact that people are talking about the case leads to something positive."

Trayvon's father, Tracy Martin, said he wants "to make sure Trayvon's legacy lives on" so that 30 or 40 years from now, people will say that laws were changed in his name.
 ::snipping3::
Deggans, who will become NPR's first television critic, told Journal-isms he intends to stay in Tampa for two years and then relocate to NPR's Los Angeles studios. He has contributed commentary to the network and now will become one of its few black male voices. Deggans also heads the Media Monitoring Committee of the National Association of Black Journalists.

"He brought his deft understanding of media to NPR's coverage of the Trayvon Martin case and the relationship between TV and real-world violence, and has also contributed to NPR’s race, ethnicity and culture blog Code Switch," the release continued.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 04, 2013, 08:12:20 PM
It has been surprisingly quiet lately about Trayvon.  Not much from Al or Jessie...
What do u all think?
I think that the people complaining about al Sharpton and Jessie being  race baiters, especially by some black commentators has quieted the racist al and Jessie. Hope so.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 04, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
It has been surprisingly quiet lately about Trayvon.  Not much from Al or Jessie...
What do u all think?
I think that the people complaining about al Sharpton and Jessie being  race baiters, especially by some black commentators has quieted the racist al and Jessie. Hope so.

I somehow suspect that a Federal civil suit against GZ is not going to happen.  Evidence against TM that implies he was not an innocent child on his way home from the stores after buying candy when he encountered GZ may be presented by the defence ... evidence that the Judge would not allow into the trial.

Janet

++++++

Imagine if much of the evidence from Bill Whittle & ‘Afterburner’ … The Wretched Lynching of George Zimmerman … The MSM Participated in Criminal Fraud or Criminal Negligence was allowed to come into a civil trial?

Posted July 29, 2013 by Scared Monkeys


http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/29/robert-zimmerman-warns-that-civil-suit-against-his-george-zimmerman-might-not-be-very-flattering-for-trayvon-martins-family/comment-page-1/#comment-4392930


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 04, 2013, 08:37:52 PM
Bill Whittle & ‘Afterburner’ … The Wretched Lynching of George Zimmerman … The MSM Participated in Criminal Fraud or Criminal Negligence

Posted July 23, 2013 by Scared Monkeys


http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/07/23/bill-whittle-afterburner-the-wretched-lynching-of-george-zimmerman-the-msm-participated-in-criminal-fraud-or-criminal-negligence/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 04, 2013, 09:28:37 PM
http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/

ZIMMERMAN VERDICT PART 9: THE PROPAGANDA FACTOR
Sunday, July 28th, 2013  by Mas

 ::snipping3::
Something similar happened in the Zimmerman case. The family of the deceased, understandably filled with grief and anger that their unarmed son had been shot to death by a man never arrested for it, hired Attorney Benjamin Crump. Crump in turn brought in a high-powered public relations firm associated with left wing political causes, as reported by the Washington Post: http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-04-12/lifestyle/35450681_1_trayvon-martin-story-george-zimmerman-unarmed-teenager .

The story fed to the press would outrage anyone…and, predictably, it outraged everyone. The family provided a picture of Trayvon at age 12 or 13, which the media ran with the ugliest picture of Zimmerman they could find. The meme of a huge armed adult “stalking” a “helpless child” was born fully grown, to a Godzilla-like size.  It loomed over America unopposed. The investigating officers and the State’s Attorney’s Office knew that the evidence showed something else: Zimmerman attacked by Martin, who towered over him, beat him to the ground, clearly smacked his head into the concrete, and might have even gone for his gun. But cops and good lawyers don’t try their cases in the press, and no voice rose loud enough with the facts to drown out the roar of the fantasy.

We can only imagine Zimmerman’s own emotional turmoil at that time. Like many Americans in their twenties, he was not yet fixed on a career and far from his peak earning years: the cost of hiring attorneys must have been terribly intimidating.  He did not stay in touch with his original attorney, Craig Sonner – who, I thought, had an excellent grasp of the case and would have done very well for him – and Sonner and his co-counsel had nothing to work with. By the time Zimmerman had retained Mark O’Mara, the false perception had become a national reality.  While O’Mara did an excellent job of trying to get the truth to the public, it was too late: his voice was simply drowned out by the media’s “all Trayvon, all the time” crusade against his client.
 ::snipping3::
---------------------
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massad_Ayoob

Massad F. Ayoob (born 20 July 1948) is an internationally-known firearms and self-defense instructor. He has taught police techniques and civilian self-defense to both law enforcement officers and private citizens in numerous venues since 1974. He was the director of the Lethal Force Institute (LFI) in Concord, New Hampshire from 1981 to 2009, and now directs the Massad Ayoob Group (MAG).[1] Ayoob has appeared as an expert witness in several trials. He has served as a part-time police officer in New Hampshire since 1972 and holds the rank of Captain in the Grantham, New Hampshire police department.[2]


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 05, 2013, 01:25:31 AM
It has been surprisingly quiet lately about Trayvon.  Not much from Al or Jessie...
What do u all think?
I think that the people complaining about al Sharpton and Jessie being  race baiters, especially by some black commentators has quieted the racist al and Jessie. Hope so.

He's still around...

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/8/1/rev_al_sharpton_repe.html
Al Sharpton talks Trayvon at NABJ conference in Kissimmee
Last Updated: Friday, August 02, 2013, 7:16 AM

 ::snipping3::
Now, he says, he’s focusing on the Stand Your Ground law.

Zimmerman’s defense team didn’t use Stand Your Ground, but Sharpton says the law violates civil rights and needs to be repealed.

“There’s been a Trayvon Martin amendment that has been introduced here in Tallahassee to amend the Stand Your Ground Law until we can totally wipe it out,” said Sharpton.

The George Zimmerman trial will continue to be a focal point in the conference this week as Trayvon Martin’s mother Sybrina Fulton is scheduled to be a keynote speaker on Friday.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 05, 2013, 11:13:28 AM
George Zimmerman's lawyer thanks Ohio gun group for $12,000 check
August 05, 2013


George Zimmerman’s attorney has formally thanked the Buckeye Firearms Foundation for the $12,150.37 check the Ohio gun rights group mailed to the exonerated Florida “stand your ground” man.

Mark M. O’Mara of Orlando said the money would be forwarded directly to Zimmerman “to replace items necessary for him to protect himself and also to accomplish security systems for his house.”

<snipped>

http://dispatchpolitics.dispatch.com/content/blogs/the-daily-briefing/2013/08/050813---zimmerman-gets-his.html



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 05, 2013, 08:20:16 PM
Same thing!!!  I don't think so.

Janet

+++++

Oprah To NBC: Trayvon Martin’s Killing ‘In My Mind, Same Thing’ As Emmett Till’s
August 5th, 2013


In an exclusive interview for The Grio, NBCUniversal’s African-American news and opinion website, Oprah Winfrey weighed in with her unvarnished thoughts on the killing of Trayvon Martin and the acquittal of George Zimmerman. Winfrey said that, in her mind, Martin’s murder and that of Emmett Till in 1955 – whose killers were also acquitted – were the “same thing.” ....

“Let me just tell you: in my mind, same thing,” Winfrey said. “But, you can stuck in that and not allow yourself to move forward and to see how far we’ve come.”
The 14-year-old Till was murdered by a group of white men in 1955 after he was reportedly “flirting” with a white woman. Till’s killers were acquitted for their role in the teen’s slaying, though they later admitted to their involvement in the murder.

<snipped>

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oprah-to-nbc-trayvon-martins-killing-in-my-mind-same-thing-as-emmett-till%E2%80%99s/




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 05, 2013, 08:27:50 PM
Not at all the same thing....not even close...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Green Eyes on August 05, 2013, 09:11:08 PM
Not at all the same thing....not even close...

I agree not even in the close to being the same thing.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2013, 10:42:21 PM
Geez...Oprah is way off. I was wondering when she would speak her two cents...hopped on the race wagon...not surprised


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on August 05, 2013, 10:45:20 PM
I forgot to add...in my head...comparing the two takes away from Emmett Till's case. I recall watching a documentary about it...that was racially motivated. Such a sad sad story.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 06, 2013, 01:18:48 AM
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/23051527/no-punishment-for-forney-officer-who-snapped-zimmerman-photo

No punishment for Forney officer who snapped Zimmerman photo
Posted:  Aug 05, 2013 5:48 PM CDT Updated:  Aug 05, 2013 5:48 PM CDT

The City of Forney said it will not discipline an officer who took an iPhone photo of George Zimmerman's driver's license during a traffic stop one week ago.
 ::snipping3::
The city manager said the officer took the photo and sent it to his lieutenant. The officer told city officials he wanted his superiors to be aware of who he stopped in case there were questions from the media.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on August 06, 2013, 11:46:07 AM
Not at all the same thing....not even close...

I agree not even in the close to being the same thing.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

really, not even close!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: klaasend on August 06, 2013, 07:45:36 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/26c26fa1-8fa5-4253-971a-92c8a7c16486_zpsa5000918.jpg)

Click on the link below to listen to the show

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 07, 2013, 08:24:33 AM
August 6, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Michelle Kennedy ‏@PIOFLCourts18 16h
State v Shellie Zimmerman: Attorney has waived her appearance at her next docket sounding scheduled for Aug 21, 2013
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 08, 2013, 05:34:22 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/8/8/george_zimmerman_s_g.html

George Zimmerman's GPS reports show he moved, bought bulletproof vest
Last Updated: Thursday, August 08, 2013, 4:28 PM

SANFORD --
A newly-released report shows what George Zimmerman did during the time he was under home confinement.

The 57-page report was created from Zimmerman's GPS anklet, and released by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office

The report shows Zimmerman changed addresses three times and phone numbers three times, because he was concerned for his safety.

He also bought a bulletproof vest, and an infrared alarm for his home.

The report also shows the number of times he left Seminole County to meet with his attorneys.

The report also highlights two potential violations of his confinement:
 ::snipping3::
--------------------
Link to the "George Zimmerman's GPS Reports":  http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/news/static/cfnews13/documents/2013/08/ZIMMERMAN-GPS-LOG.pdf



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on August 08, 2013, 07:21:48 PM
Hi Monkey's,

Thank-you Muffy and Grace-land for the updates.

T.G. he didn't buy a dog. :)The dogs are safe  ::dogwag::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2013, 02:28:32 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/08/jackson-sharpton-stay-silent-on-school-bus-beating/?cmpid=GoogleNewsEditorsPicks&google_editors_picks=true
Critics blast Jackson, Sharpton over silence on Florida school bus beating
August 8, 2013

Self-appointed civil rights leaders and celebrities remained mum on the vicious beating of a white sixth-grader at the hands of three older African-Americans in Florida, despite a growing chorus of critics who called their silence hypocrisy given their recent, racially-charged condemnation of the Sunshine State.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who both blasted Florida in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting and the acquittal of George Zimmerman in Martin's death, with Jackson calling it an "apartheid state" and "our Selma," have not spoken publicly of the brutal beating aboard a school bus caught on cellphone and surveillance video. Neither Jackson nor Sharpton responded to requests for comment from FoxNews.com.

“Three 15-yr-old black teens beat up a 13-yr-old white kid because he told school officials they tried to sell him drugs,” former congressman Allen West, an ex-Army Colonel who is African-American, wrote on his Facebook page. “Do you hear anything from Sharpton, Jackson, NAACP, Stevie Wonder, Jay-Z, liberal media, or Hollywood? Cat got your tongues or is it that pathetic hypocrisy revealing itself once again? Y'all just make me sick.”
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The attack took place July 9 in the St. Petersburg-area community of Gulfport. But the horrific cellphone and surveillance video came out only recently. Police say the three youths, all African-American, attacked the boy after he told officials at their dropout prevention school that one of them had tried to sell him marijuana. The unidentified boy was left with a broken arm and two black eyes.

Joshua Reddin, Julian McKnight, and Lloyd Khemradj, all 15 years old, were arrested a short time later. All three were charged with aggravated battery and have since been released. Reddin is also charged with unarmed robbery.

Gulfport Police Chief Robert Vincent told Fox News the attack does not appear to be racially motivated and was due to the younger boy reporting that one of the assailants had tried to sell him marijuana.

West, who represented southeastern Florida in the House, denounced Jackson and Sharpton as “race-baiters” and “faux leaders” during the Zimmerman trial for making the death of  Martin into a racial issue.

“Do you really want to talk about the issues that are confronting the black community or do you want to talk about the politically manufactured crises that you have these faux leaders and these race-baiters that are out there, you know, promoting it,” West said in a July interview on Fox News Radio.

Rev. Dr. Manuel Sykes, president of the St. Petersburg chapter of the NAACP, told FoxNews.com his group is aware of the bus beating and is monitoring it closely.

“We would want to see if any and all information out there has determined if there are any disparities,” he said.

All three of the assailants were expelled from school and are due back in court for a hearing early next week.

 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on August 09, 2013, 07:04:10 PM
I wonder how much Tracey and Sybrina got paid to be on the cover of Ebony magazine.

They are worse than the Anthonys. IMO.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on August 09, 2013, 08:17:38 PM
I wonder how much Tracey and Sybrina got paid to be on the cover of Ebony magazine.

They are worse than the Anthonys. IMO.

"Uh uh- I know she didn't."

This has all gotten to another level.  I so feel the pain of the Martins and losing their son.  They asked for a  trial and they received that.  They did not get the verdict they wanted ( I guess).

And now the race baiters have jumped on the band wagon.

How about every parent out there - no matter what race - take heed and raise up their  children the very best way they know how.

Turn this into a positive and not a divisive situation.

Please, please people we need to not make this worse than it is.

Prayers for the Martin family to follow a productive course.




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 09, 2013, 09:11:36 PM
August 9, 2013 Tweets
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55m
Update: @SeminoleSO says preliminary estimate of its #GeorgeZimmerman trial costs given last month ($320K) was low. Final figure: $425,000.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2013, 07:49:21 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/08/jackson-sharpton-stay-silent-on-school-bus-beating/?cmpid=GoogleNewsEditorsPicks&google_editors_picks=true
Critics blast Jackson, Sharpton over silence on Florida school bus beating
August 8, 2013

Self-appointed civil rights leaders and celebrities remained mum on the vicious beating of a white sixth-grader at the hands of three older African-Americans in Florida, despite a growing chorus of critics who called their silence hypocrisy given their recent, racially-charged condemnation of the Sunshine State.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who both blasted Florida in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting and the acquittal of George Zimmerman in Martin's death, with Jackson calling it an "apartheid state" and "our Selma," have not spoken publicly of the brutal beating aboard a school bus caught on cellphone and surveillance video. Neither Jackson nor Sharpton responded to requests for comment from FoxNews.com.

“Three 15-yr-old black teens beat up a 13-yr-old white kid because he told school officials they tried to sell him drugs,” former congressman Allen West, an ex-Army Colonel who is African-American, wrote on his Facebook page. “Do you hear anything from Sharpton, Jackson, NAACP, Stevie Wonder, Jay-Z, liberal media, or Hollywood? Cat got your tongues or is it that pathetic hypocrisy revealing itself once again? Y'all just make me sick.”
 ::snipping3::
The attack took place July 9 in the St. Petersburg-area community of Gulfport. But the horrific cellphone and surveillance video came out only recently. Police say the three youths, all African-American, attacked the boy after he told officials at their dropout prevention school that one of them had tried to sell him marijuana. The unidentified boy was left with a broken arm and two black eyes.

Joshua Reddin, Julian McKnight, and Lloyd Khemradj, all 15 years old, were arrested a short time later. All three were charged with aggravated battery and have since been released. Reddin is also charged with unarmed robbery.

Gulfport Police Chief Robert Vincent told Fox News the attack does not appear to be racially motivated and was due to the younger boy reporting that one of the assailants had tried to sell him marijuana.

West, who represented southeastern Florida in the House, denounced Jackson and Sharpton as “race-baiters” and “faux leaders” during the Zimmerman trial for making the death of  Martin into a racial issue.

“Do you really want to talk about the issues that are confronting the black community or do you want to talk about the politically manufactured crises that you have these faux leaders and these race-baiters that are out there, you know, promoting it,” West said in a July interview on Fox News Radio.

Rev. Dr. Manuel Sykes, president of the St. Petersburg chapter of the NAACP, told FoxNews.com his group is aware of the bus beating and is monitoring it closely.

“We would want to see if any and all information out there has determined if there are any disparities,” he said.

All three of the assailants were expelled from school and are due back in court for a hearing early next week.

 

yep...  where r the race baiters now?  they make me sick


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 12, 2013, 11:12:58 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-trayvon-martin-father-honorary-captain-famu-football-20130812,0,7393770.story
Trayvon Martin's father named honorary captain of FAMU football team
Tracy Martin recently delivered an inspirational speech to the Florida A&M football team

August 12, 2013

TALLAHASSEE — Trayvon Martin’s father has been named honorary captain of the FAMU football team after delivering an inspirational speech to the team Sunday.

Florida A&M coach Earl Holmes said Tracy Martin, whose son’s shooting death in Sanford drew national attention, called him recently and the coach recently invited the grieving father to address his players.

“[We] talked and I told him I’d love him to talk to the team. He came out and he was very,  very encouraging,” Holmes said of Tracy Martin. “ . . . [He] got a standing ovation from our guys. He talked about just persevering and told the guys to keep on pushing through the hard times. The message he shared with the kids was very positive and they were very responsive.” 
Since George Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter charges in connection with Trayvon Martin’s death in Sanford, his parents have been seeking support for the Trayvon Martin Foundation.


Holmes said Tracy Martin will be an honorary captain for the Rattlers this season. Martin is scheduled to be on the field and do the pregame coin toss when FAMU plays it season opener against Mississippi Valley State Sept. 1 during the MEAC-SWAC Challenge at the Citrus Bowl. Kickoff is at 11:45 a.m. and the game will air on ESPN.

Holmes said his players were moved by Martin’s speech.

“He had some inspiring words and the guys played off of that,” Holmes said. “And we’re going to keep pushing for him and his foundation. He’ll be an honorary captain for us this year and he’s welcome any time.

“I think what he’s doing with the foundation is big and it speaks volumes and I want the football team and FAMU Nation to be part of that”

The purpose of the foundation, according to its website trayvonmartinfoundation.org, is to create awareness about how violent crime impacts the families of the victims and to provide support for those families.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on August 13, 2013, 06:27:54 PM
(http://therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/dreamdefenders_trayvonmural.jpg)

8/12/13    Mural shows man shooting likeness of Trayvon Martin
 


"The mural shows a man who looks similar to George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch leader who shot and killed Martin in February 2012 and was later acquitted in the teen's death, shooting a person wearing a hoodie.  There's a mirror in the mural where Martin's face would be so visitors can see themselves as the teen.

The mural also contains blank spaces where the public can share their thoughts, and  it also shows a picture of Martin Luther King Jr. with blood flowing down his head."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/mural-shows-man-shooting-likeness-of-trayvon-martin/-/1637132/21404556/-/u4r3tdz/-/index.html



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on August 13, 2013, 06:38:04 PM
1. Can't put a copy of The Ten Commandments in the State House, might offend somebody.

2. If George Zimmerman looked like that Martin would still be running.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 13, 2013, 07:20:29 PM
1. Can't put a copy of The Ten Commandments in the State House, might offend somebody.

2. If George Zimmerman looked like that Martin would still be running.

Agree.

This mural is offensive to me in so many ways.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 14, 2013, 09:22:01 PM
August 14, 2013 Tweets
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Sonni Abatta ‏@SonniAbatta 3h
JUST IN:  Special session on Stand Your Ground law will not happen.  Supporters could not get 3/5 of legislature to vote for it.  #Fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 14, 2013, 09:29:28 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/14/florida-sheriffs-stand-your-ground_n_3756631.html
Florida Sheriffs' Stand Your Ground Support Not Unanimous After All
August 14, 2013



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 17, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-zimmerman-trayvon-dream-defenders-20130815,0,6451009.story?obref=obinsite
Dream Defenders end Capitol sit-in over Zimmerman verdict
August 15, 2013

TALLAHASSEE — After sitting in at the Florida Capitol for 31 days — since just after the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the death of Trayvon Martin — the group called the Dream Defenders ended its protest Thursday with the help of civil-rights icon Julian Bond.

Leaders said they'll carry their campaign against the "stand your ground" self-defense law and what they consider other forms of racial bias to the polls, trying to defeat the elected officials who opposed their demands.

That includes Gov. Rick Scott, who is up for re-election next year. The Dream Defenders announced a voter-registration drive, with a goal of 61,550 new voters — Scott's margin of victory in 2010.

"Our work and our power have grown too big for these walls," said Phillip Agnew, leader of the Dream Defenders.

The group marched to the Capitol on July 16 and demanded a special session on "stand your ground," which they didn't get.
But they got a national hearing, and Bond, founder of the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee and a longtime Georgia lawmaker, declared their nonviolent action a success in the tradition of the 1960s civil-rights movement.
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The protest ignited when Zimmerman was acquitted of murder in the shooting death of the unarmed teen Martin. Although Zimmerman's attorneys did not invoke the "stand your ground" law, which grants immunity to people who use deadly force if they have reason to believe their lives are in jeopardy, the circumstances of Martin's death touched a nerve among many black, Hispanic and mixed-race people.

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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 18, 2013, 03:49:20 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/18/trayvon-martin-sybrina-fulton-stop-and-frisk/2668935/
Trayvon Martin's mom blasts 'stop and frisk'
August 18, 2013

The mother of slain teen Trayvon Martin added her voice to the "stop and frisk" controversy Sunday, saying New York City's aggressive policy of searches in high-crime neighborhoods gives police officers the wrong "direction."

Last week a federal judge ruled that the policy was unconstitutional because it disproportionately targets blacks and Hispanics. The city is appealing Judge Shira Scheindlin's decision, arguing the policy targets high-crime neighborhoods and rejecting Scheindlin's finding that the policy is a form of "indirect racial profiling."
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"You can't give people the authority, where its a civilian or police officers, the right to stop somebody just because of the color of their skin," Sybrina Fulton said on NBC's Meet the Press.

Scheindlin's ruling could have an impact on stop-and-frisk efforts in other cities. New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, speaking on NBC's This Week, warned that the ruling risked reversing the downward trend of violent crime in his city.

"What we're doing – and what we're trying to do — is save lives," Kelly said. "Things are going right here in New York. And this decision certainly has the potential of overturning it."

The class-action lawsuit that resulted in the decision was the largest and most broad legal action against the policy the city has seen. While stop and frisk has been established as a constitutional tactic, Scheindlin found that the plaintiffs had "readily established that the NYPD implements its policies regarding stop and frisk in a manner that intentionally discriminates based on race."

There have been about 5 million stops during the past decade, mostly black and Hispanic men. The judge said she found at least 200,000 stops were made without reasonable suspicion.

Benjamin Jealous, president of the NAACP, said on Meet the Press that the practice in New York was racial profiling, no matter what city officials call it. He said the policy was not responsible for the decline in crime, adding that the practice was "driving a wedge" between police and the black community.

"There are now more stop and frisks of young black men in New York City than there are young black men in New York City," Jealous said.

Kelly stressed that no one is stopped without a reason.

"Nobody wants to be stopped," Kelly said. "We have engaged in a major training evolution for several years, focusing on these issues, to do these stops with courtesy, do them with respect."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on August 18, 2013, 07:08:25 PM
If Sybrina put as much effort into raising her kid as she does keeping her money grab foundation in the news maybe Trayvon would be at home getting ready for school to start.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Green Eyes on August 18, 2013, 07:24:20 PM
If Sybrina put as much effort into raising her kid as she does keeping her money grab foundation in the news maybe Trayvon would be at home getting ready for school to start.

I feel bad for any parent that loses a child. With that said. If TM parents had put in as much time as they have selling their woes to every body about TM. You are right maybe he would be around to be getting ready for school. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 18, 2013, 07:57:15 PM
If I am profiled because a blonde woman about 5'4 weighing about 126 lbs is known to be a shoplifter or drug dealer or kidnapper in the area where I am at, then stop me. See that I am not the person you are looking for and off I go. I don't have a problem with it because I think that it could cut down on crime.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 18, 2013, 08:25:46 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/tv/os-mark-nejame-on-tv-20130817,0,3793105.story
Q&A: How Mark NeJame balances family, law, TV shows
August 17, 2013

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What are the lasting lessons of the Zimmerman trial?

It tells us we have a lot further to go considering race relations in the United States. It also tells us the truth be damned when people form opinions. So many people on the polar extremes of that case, they did not care what the facts were. They were locked into their positions and their opinions, and they were not going to let the facts or truth on either side get in the way of their opinions. There's no question in my mind that the prosecution in that case was very politically motivated.

How was it politically motivated?
More...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on August 19, 2013, 09:02:10 AM
Sabrina Fulton, Mother of Trayvon Martin, Says Stop and Frisk Is Racial-Profiling … The Exploitation of Trayvon Martin’s Death Continues


http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/08/19/sabrina-fulton-mother-of-trayvon-martin-says-stop-and-frisk-is-racial-profiling-the-exploitation-of-travon-martins-death-continues/

NYC … soon to be the new Chicago.

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Are you kidding me, first Trayvon’s mother is against stand your ground laws and now stop and frisk? Neither of which had anything to do with her son’s death. What is the point of her honoring her son’s death other than calling everything racist?

Sabrina Fulton, the mother of Trayvon Martin, goes on NBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ and states stop and frisk is racial profiling. Even though ‘stop and frisk’ laws have made NYC a safer place and actually prevented crime, these misguided individuals just want to call everything racially profiling. Flanked by NAACP’s Ben Jealous and Fulton’s attorney Benjamin Crump, this poor woman does not even realize she and the memory of her dead son are being exploited by race-baiters. How sad, or worse … she does. Sorry, but to end a police progam that actually works and actually saves the lives of individuals, including blacks, is just irresponsible. These race baiters have been looking for their “racial profile” campaign and they have found it by exploiting the death of Trayvon Martin. I can empathize with Sabrina Fulton’s loss, no parent should ever have to bury their child. But that certainly does not give you the right to back ignorant and foolish positions without question or criticism. Of course any one who disagrees will be branded a racist.


The wider point, Sabrina Fulton, i welcome you to the program. Just your reaction as a mother who’s lost her son so tragically and as now someone who’s trying to create something positive out of that searing loss by talking about stand your ground laws. You’ve heard the commissioner of new york say, look, what happened to Trayvon Martin, even though it was referenced in the judge’s ruling, is quite different. that was civilian on civilian. This is about civilians interacting with the police department. do you see that distinction or not?

I think it’s all about laws, and I think you have to give not only civilians, but you have to give the police officers the right direction. You can’t give people the authority, police officers the right to stop somebody because of the color of their skin.
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Check out the videos and transcripts ...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2013, 03:46:11 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/18/trayvon-martin-sybrina-fulton-stop-and-frisk/2668935/
Trayvon Martin's mom blasts 'stop and frisk'
August 18, 2013

The mother of slain teen Trayvon Martin added her voice to the "stop and frisk" controversy Sunday, saying New York City's aggressive policy of searches in high-crime neighborhoods gives police officers the wrong "direction."

Last week a federal judge ruled that the policy was unconstitutional because it disproportionately targets blacks and Hispanics. The city is appealing Judge Shira Scheindlin's decision, arguing the policy targets high-crime neighborhoods and rejecting Scheindlin's finding that the policy is a form of "indirect racial profiling."
(snipped more of article than previous)


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/19/gunrunners-ny-smuggled-on-buses/2671421/
NYC announces largest gun bust in city history
August 19, 2013

An undercover operation in New York has resulted in the largest seizure of illegal firearms in city history -- and has provided more ammunition in the city's defense of its controversial stop-and-frisk policy, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday.

Police seized 254 illegal guns and indicted 19 people, Bloomberg said. The weapons included high-capacity assault weapons, a fully automatic machine gun and handguns, "which are most typically the models of guns used to commit violent crimes" in the city, Bloomberg said.
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Bloomberg said court-authorized wiretaps helped investigators identifiy the gun sellers in North and South Carolina attempting to supply guns for the purpose of reselling the weapons in New York City.

Bloomberg also provided a transcript of a comment attributed to suspect Campbell in a wiretap that indicated the city's controversial "stop and frisk" policy made selling weapons in the city more difficult: "I can't leave until you come, cause I can't take them (guns) to my house, to my side of town cause I'm in Brownsville (a section of Brooklyn). So we got like, whatchamacallit, stop and frisk."

Last week a federal judge ruled that the city's policy was unconstitutional because it disproportionately targets blacks and Hispanics. The city is appealing Judge Shira Scheindlin's decision, arguing the policy targets high-crime neighborhoods and rejecting Scheindlin's finding that the policy is a form of "indirect racial profiling."

More than half of the weapons seized were funneled to the city from North Carolina, with the remainder brought into New York City from South Carolina, Bloomberg said. Both states have relatively weak laws that allow criminals and traffickers to easily obtain guns, he said.

One of the discount bus companies charges $60 one-way from Raleigh, N.C., to New York. The fare is about half that charged by Greyhound, which, unlike the Chinatown buses, requires identification for boarding.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on August 20, 2013, 07:40:37 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/18/trayvon-martin-sybrina-fulton-stop-and-frisk/2668935/
Trayvon Martin's mom blasts 'stop and frisk'
August 18, 2013

The mother of slain teen Trayvon Martin added her voice to the "stop and frisk" controversy Sunday, saying New York City's aggressive policy of searches in high-crime neighborhoods gives police officers the wrong "direction."

Last week a federal judge ruled that the policy was unconstitutional because it disproportionately targets blacks and Hispanics. The city is appealing Judge Shira Scheindlin's decision, arguing the policy targets high-crime neighborhoods and rejecting Scheindlin's finding that the policy is a form of "indirect racial profiling."
 ::snipping3::
"You can't give people the authority, where its a civilian or police officers, the right to stop somebody just because of the color of their skin," Sybrina Fulton said on NBC's Meet the Press.

Scheindlin's ruling could have an impact on stop-and-frisk efforts in other cities. New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, speaking on NBC's This Week, warned that the ruling risked reversing the downward trend of violent crime in his city.

"What we're doing – and what we're trying to do — is save lives," Kelly said. "Things are going right here in New York. And this decision certainly has the potential of overturning it."

The class-action lawsuit that resulted in the decision was the largest and most broad legal action against the policy the city has seen. While stop and frisk has been established as a constitutional tactic, Scheindlin found that the plaintiffs had "readily established that the NYPD implements its policies regarding stop and frisk in a manner that intentionally discriminates based on race."

There have been about 5 million stops during the past decade, mostly black and Hispanic men. The judge said she found at least 200,000 stops were made without reasonable suspicion.

Benjamin Jealous, president of the NAACP, said on Meet the Press that the practice in New York was racial profiling, no matter what city officials call it. He said the policy was not responsible for the decline in crime, adding that the practice was "driving a wedge" between police and the black community.

"There are now more stop and frisks of young black men in New York City than there are young black men in New York City," Jealous said.

Kelly stressed that no one is stopped without a reason.

"Nobody wants to be stopped," Kelly said. "We have engaged in a major training evolution for several years, focusing on these issues, to do these stops with courtesy, do them with respect."

I feel she wants her name and his name in the history books...she wants his name associated with civil rights. It never should have been. She is plugging it in though. His name will be in the black community because that is what they want to see. I have a perfect example...an outstanding officer in our community (not white---important to some)...stopped a group of teenage boys (pretty much men...17)... that were hanging around a park around 1030 pm one night...his tuition told him he should...he asked them to line up and let him check their pockets....or something like that (I may not be saying it exactly right)...anyhow...the first two complied...before he got to the last he was shot and killed. He had a good reason to stop and check these boys out...they were black, yes...but he stopped because of their behavior...their demeanor...their presentation...and so on...please quit playing the freaking victim and grow up. If this is being abused then sure go after it...but it isn't here and it needs to be done more...cops are afraid to...afraid they will be sued.  In my opinion...he will be in the history books to split the races more than bring them together...ridiculous.  She is doing way more harm than good for humanity. MOO.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 20, 2013, 10:35:59 AM
I can't stand the parents. Sorry, but that is how I feel.
I would have more respect or Sabrina if she would speak out about the horrible shooting death against Christopher Lane by 3 black youths, just for  sport of it. Hate crime. She is a race baiter just like Al and Jessie in my opinion. If she really wanted to be seen as an activist and someone who wanted to improve race relations, she should speak out to stop all killings regardless of race.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on August 20, 2013, 03:44:15 PM
I am sure what Sybrina wants but Trayvons name should never be in the same sentence with these people.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2_93r3JMvQg/TciEIjWTgHI/AAAAAAAAAEE/5w48RUlYZFY/s1600/MAYA-monument-for-the-Civil-Rights-Movement-for-the-Southern-Poverty-Law-Center.jpg)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 21, 2013, 01:19:01 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-trayvon-stand-your-ground-video-omara-responds-20130821,0,6261751.story
O'Mara calls stand your ground PSA 'dramatic fantasy'
August 21, 2013

Mark O'Mara, George Zimmerman's lawyer, called the new public service announcement about "stand your ground" laws a "dramatic fantasy of what really happened that night," on CNN's OutFront Tuesday night.

The video opposing "stand your ground" laws features a re-enactment of the killing of Trayvon Martin and ends with dozens of young men wearing hoodies lying on the ground.

"I think they are hurting their own cause by doing something that doesn't base itself on facts," O'Mara said.
The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence uses real 911 recordings made by Zimmerman and his neighbors the night Zimmerman shot Trayvon, an unarmed 17-year-old black youth from South Florida.

The words, "Our laws should protect victims. Not create more. Stand up to stand your ground laws in 26 states," appear on the screen in the video, released Monday.

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Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder and found not-guilty in July.

O'Mara also said Zimmerman is worried for his safety because of possible blow back from the video.

Video at Link


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on August 21, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
Maybe Martin was bored.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on August 21, 2013, 08:55:09 PM
Can this woman just stop now:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-trayvon-martins-mom-releases-song-20130821,0,6258989.story




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on August 21, 2013, 09:29:07 PM
Can't comment

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 21, 2013, 11:27:41 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/8/21/hearing_today_in_she.html

Hearing deferred in Shellie Zimmerman's perjury case
Last Updated: Wednesday, August 21, 2013, 8:40 AM

SANFORD --
Attorneys for George Zimmerman's wife, Shellie Zimmerman, have deferred a hearing that was supposed to take place Wednesday. Instead, a status conference on her upcoming trial will be held next week.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 22, 2013, 08:33:13 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-costs-20130821,0,6508617.story
George Zimmerman trial cost public $902,000
The high-profile murder trial ended with an acquittal
.
August 22, 2013

SANFORD — The five-week trial of Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman — which ended in his acquittal in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin — cost the public at least $902,000.

The biggest outlay came from the Seminole County Sheriff's Office, which spent $425,000 providing security, planning and logistics during the trial.

No. 2 was the city of Sanford, which spent an enormous sum on police overtime, a decision that pushed spending to about $183,000.
 ::snipping3::
Security is one of the reasons the trial was so expensive. The decision by Sanford police to not arrest Zimmerman in the days following the shooting set off weeks of demonstrations. Fearing more, local law enforcement spent an enormous amount of time preparing for and guarding against violence.


Also, Zimmerman had received death threats. As a consequence, dozens of extra officers were at the courthouse. They stopped every vehicle pulling into the parking lot if they did not recognize the driver.

Juror costs also were unusually high. Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson ordered the panel sequestered, meaning jurors were forced to live in a hotel, isolated from their families and media reports. Their care and feeding during the 22 days of sequestration cost $34,600, paid for by Clerk of Courts Maryanne Morse.

By comparison, the cost of housing and feeding the sequestered jury in the Casey Anthony child-murder case in Orlando two years ago was five times that — topping $186,000. But that trial lasted six weeks, and the panel was made up of 12 jurors and four alternates.

The Zimmerman trial totals are based, in part, on estimates and do not include the cost of the criminal investigation or any pretrial costs.

For example, Special Prosecutor Angela Corey did not provide any information about her costs. All of her nonsalary expenses must be paid by the Seminole-Brevard State Attorney's Office. It provided an $80,000 advance to her Jacksonville-based office in mid-June but has not received an account of how those funds were spent.

The trial costs also do not include what Zimmerman and his lawyers spent, only what was spent by public agencies that dedicated personnel and resources to the trial.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on August 22, 2013, 10:29:01 AM
Can't comment

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/

Waiting for Obama to speak out.
The murdered kid was from another country and yet our President has remained silent.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on August 22, 2013, 03:41:20 PM
Can't comment

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/

Waiting for Obama to speak out.
The murdered kid was from another country and yet our President has remained silent.
If Obama had a son..


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 26, 2013, 11:02:17 AM
August 26, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/FLCourts18 (https://twitter.com/FLCourts18)

Mark Van Bever ‏@FLcourts18 53m
State v. Shellie Zimmerman: status hearing is scheduled for 8/28 at 9 a.m. in Courtroom 5-C in Sanford, FL.

 Michelle Kennedy ‏@PIOFLCourts18 13 Aug
State vs Zimmerman: New filings posted at http://www.flcourts18.org
 Retweeted by Mark Van Bever


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 26, 2013, 11:48:23 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/26/george-zimmerman-legal-fees-florida/2704499/
Lawyer: Zimmerman to ask Fla. to cover some legal costs
August 26, 2013

George Zimmerman, acquitted in Trayvon Martin's death, wants to recoup some legal costs.

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer found not guilty in the February 2012 shooting death of unarmed black teen Trayvon Martin, will ask the state of Florida to cover some of his legal fees, a lawyer's spokesman says.

Mark O'Mara, Zimmerman's lawyer, plans to file a motion to recoup between $200,000 and $300,000 in legal fees from the state of Florida, Shawn Vincent, a spokesman for Zimmerman's legal team, said Monday evening.

"That is a ballpark estimate," Vincent said. "It will be a few weeks before everything is all together and we're in a position to file that motion."

A Florida statute allows defendants who win their cases to file such motions, Vincent said. More than a month after Zimmerman was acquitted, his attorneys have now had the time to begin preparing their motion.

"It's a pretty standard motion for a case that the defense won," Vincent said.
 ::snipping3::
The motion to recoup legal costs would be based on a Florida statute that declares that a defendant who has been acquitted is not liable for costs associated with his or her case and that anything paid would be returned, if approved by a judge or clerk, via the state's Judicial Administrative Commission, according to the Orlando Sentinel.

The money Zimmerman's teams hopes to recoup includes only legal expenses such as hiring courtroom experts, court reporter fees for witness depositions and some travel expenses.

No Florida law allows attorneys to recover their fees from the state, Vincent said.

In O'Mara's case, the fee would have been more than $1 million. He bills $400 an hour and worked 40 hours a week for 16 months on Zimmerman's case, Vincent said. Don West, a co-counsel on the case, bills $350 an hour.

"I believe to this day, they (O'Mara and West) have not been paid for any of their legal fees," Vincent said.

The Sentinel reported O'Mara has been paid nothing by Zimmerman.

The lawyer told the news organization that he will submit the costs to a judge for certification, but he anticipates that the Judicial Administrative Commission will challenge many of the expenses.

It remains to be seen how Zimmerman's legal fund defense, which collected several thousands of dollars for his defense, will work now that some of those fees will be paid by the state. It's also unclear whether Zimmerman's attorneys will be paid for their time in the future.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 27, 2013, 02:20:32 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-legal-bills-update-20130827,0,1848356.story

George Zimmerman defense: Who should pay bills? O'Mara answers questions
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
1:51 p.m. EDT, August 27, 2013

Mark O'Mara today said the state should pay all of George Zimmerman's legal costs because he was innocent but predicted it would wind up paying roughly one-quarter of that.

At a 1p.m. news conference O'Mara, who was Zimmerman's defense attorney, reiterated that he would soon ask a judge to sign an order, authorizing the state to cover $200,000 to $300,000 in Zimmerman's court costs.

That's what he estimates Zimmerman owes for legal expenses minus lawyers' fees.

But he conceded that the state agency responsible for those costs, the Judicial Administrative Commission, would likely dispute many of the submitted bills and would end up paying $50,000 or less.

O'Mara called that unfair and suggested that Special Prosecutor Angela Corey should have to pay the total cost plus Zimmerman's lawyers' bills because she filed charges against an innocent man.
 ::snipping3::
Before the trial, O'Mara said repeatedly that defense funds were so low he might be forced to ask the judge to declare Zimmerman indigent, and thus, require the state to pay his legal bills. But that never happened.

This upcoming motion, however, would have the same effect.

It would be based on Florida Statute 939.06, which states that a defendant who has been acquitted is not liable for any costs associated with his case and, if he or she paid anything, they would be due a refund, if approved by a judge or clerk.

The money would come from the Judicial Administrative Commission, the state agency that pays the non-lawyer legal expenses of indigent defendants.


O'Mara said he would ask the judge to certify the costs he submits. He then expects the commission, which is commonly referred to as JAC, to challenge many


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2013, 10:24:25 AM
Article content same as title of article. (one sentence)  There will probably be more information forthcoming.   ::bee::

http://www.kvue.com/news/national/221476021.html
George Zimmerman's wife pleads guilty to misdemeanor perjury for lying during bail hearing
Associated Press
Posted on August 28, 2013 at 9:03 AM
Updated today at 9:04 AM


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
August 28, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 26m
Shellie #Zimmerman's atty KellySims: This pleadeal a home run for her. She did the right thing. Guy/Corey were kind to agree to misdemeanor.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 45m
Shellie #Zimmerman is quickly escorted from c-room by her atty & bodyguard. Does not talk to reporters. She appeared calm, confident.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Orlando, FL

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 49m
Shellie #Zimmerman plea done. 1year probation for misdemeanor perjury. Hearing lasted less than 10 min. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Orlando, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51m
Breaking: #GeorgeZimmerman wife pleads guilty to lesser charge, gets probation in plea deal | Story we'll update: http://bit.ly/1dmwKM5

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 53m
Judge now sentencing Shellie #Zimmerman to a year of probation for probation. DefAtty: She may be traveling nationwide. Judge: That's O.K.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 57m
NOW: George Zimmerman's wife Shellie pleads guilty to lesser perjury charge for lying during husband's bond hearing http://bit.ly/1dmwKM5
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 58m
"Yes, ma'am," Shellie #Zimmerman says when asked by judge if she wants to plead guilty of misdemeanor perjury for 1 yr of probation.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 laurendawn ‏@laurendawn 59m
Attorney: Shellie will write an apology letter to Judge Lester. Will perform 100 hours of community service. #fox35 #zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59m
As we reported earlier, #GeorgeZimmerman's wife Shellie is pleading guilty now to lesser perjury charge. Details: http://bit.ly/1dmwKM5

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1h
Judge just calls Shellie #Zimmerman case. Shellie walks in, wearing a dark suit. Hearing begins. #Trayvon.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1h
ASA JohnGuy, waiting patiently for the judge to call Shellie #Zimmerman's case, wears a dark pin-striped suit, def atty KellySims beige.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1h
Judge Marlene Alva, who'll take Shellie #Zimmerman's plea, just stepped onto the bench. She starts with other cases. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-wife-shellie-plea-20130828,0,3608738.story …
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 
 Mike Lafferty ‏@mlafferty1 1h
Shellie Zimmerman plea: George Zimmerman's wife to get probation in plea deal http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-wife-shellie-plea-20130828,0,3608738.story …
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1h
ASA John Guy in the c-room, as is the atty for Shellie #Zimmerman, Kelly Sims. No Shellie or judge yet.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-wife-shellie-plea-20130828,0,3608738.story …
#Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 2h
#GeorgeZimmerman's wife Shellie to get probation in plea deal, will write apology to judge | Story: http://bit.ly/1dmwKM5  #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1h
Extra security, including more deputies & metal detector, outside Sanford c-room where Shellie, wife of #GeorgeZimmerman, to enter plea tda.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Orlando, FL

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 2h
#GeorgeZimmerman's wife to get probation in plea deal in perjury case. http://thesent.nl/1aPwZhF . #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
#GeorgeZimmerman's wife Shellie to get probation in plea deal, will write apology to judge | Story: http://bit.ly/1dmwKM5  #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
#GeorgeZimmerman's wife will plead guilty today to misdemeanor perjury charge in deal carrying 1 yr probation, @ReneStutzman reports.

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2h
Shellie, wife of #GeorgeZimmerman, will this morning say, "I'm guilty of perjury." Deal calls for 1 year if probabation. #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2013, 10:58:52 AM
August 28, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/fthoodshootings (https://twitter.com/fthoodshootings)
Fort Hood Shootings ‏@FtHoodShootings 29m
Prosecutor: "The just and appropriate sentence in this case is death."

 Fort Hood Shootings ‏@FtHoodShootings 30m
Prosecutor:  "He dealt no compassion. He dealt no understanding. He dealt no exceptions. He only dealt death."

 Fort Hood Shootings ‏@FtHoodShootings 32m
Prosecutor begins closing argument: "Death. He was trained as a doctor to save lives but on 5 November he only dealt death."

August 28, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/KenKalthoffNBC5 (https://twitter.com/KenKalthoffNBC5)
Ken Kalthoff ‏@KenKalthoffNBC5 38m
Army closing argument underway in  #forthood shooting trial sentencing.#hasan may speak later. @NBCDFW

August 28, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/chrissadeghi (https://twitter.com/chrissadeghi)
Chris Sadeghi ‏@chrissadeghi 25m
Mulligan going victim by victim, remembering their lives, their service, & void that now sits in their family. Speaking slowly, deliberately

 Chris Sadeghi ‏@chrissadeghi 26m
“Because of what he did & who he did it to. BC of where he did it & when he did it. The just & appropriate sentence in this case is death.’

 Chris Sadeghi ‏@chrissadeghi 27m
"He dealt no compassion, he dealt no understanding, he dealt no exceptions. He only dealt death." - Col. Michael Mulligan #Hasan

 Chris Sadeghi ‏@chrissadeghi 28m
"Death." The 1st word of prosecution closing. "He was trained as a doctor to save lives, but on Nov. 5, he only dealt death.” #hasan


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2013, 11:01:12 AM
August 28, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jdmiles11 (https://twitter.com/jdmiles11)
J.D. Miles ‏@jdmiles11 36m
Does Nidal #Hasan deserve a life sentence instead of death? Judge says his good demeanor in court could be considered by jury


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2013, 11:17:51 AM
August 28, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
PDF: Shellie #Zimmerman's plea agreement http://bit.ly/1dPrCyN  #GeorgeZimmerman's wife, pleaded guilty to lesser perjury charge today.

 Michelle Kennedy ‏@PIOFLCourts18 9m
State vs Shellie Zimmerman: Court minutes from today's hearing are now posted at http://flcourts18.org
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2013, 11:19:38 AM
Would a moderator please delete the tweets from the Ft. Hood shooter's trial?  I'll repost them in the appropriate thread.  Thank you!   ::buzzbee3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 28, 2013, 01:16:49 PM
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/08/shellie-zimmerman-plea-deal/#more-63322

Shellie Zimmerman Plea Deal (Update – Plea Deal docs added)
Posted by William A. Jacobson    Wednesday, August 28, 2013 at 8:47am

We have detailed before the perjury charge against George Zimmerman’s wife, Shellie, based on her testimony during a bail hearing as to their assets.

I’ve pointed out that legally the charge was weak because perjury requires an affirmative misstatement of a material fact, and many of her answers, while evasive and misleading, did not rise to that level.  Many of the questions at issue were ambiguous and called for opinionated characterizations.

Perhaps recognizing the weakness of the case, it appears that the prosecution has agreed to a plea deal. (Update: Plea Deal docs embedded at bottom of post.)
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 28, 2013, 01:24:14 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-wife-shellie-plea-20130828,0,3608738.story

Shellie Zimmerman plea: George Zimmerman's wife gets probation in plea deal
11:01 a.m. EDT, August 28, 2013

SANFORD - Shellie Zimmerman, the wife of acquitted murder suspect George Zimmerman, today pleaded guilty to a less serious form of perjury in a plea deal that requires her to serve one year of probation.

It was a negotiated deal, designed to avoid a felony conviction and to allow her to move on with her life. The 26-year-old was a nursing student nearly done with her schooling at the time of her arrest. Had she been found guilty of a felony — the perjury charge she was facing — she would have been banned from applying to become a state-certified nurse for three years.

She was composed during this morning's 10-minute hearing. She answered questions from Circuit Judge Marlene Alva in a clear, confident voice, saying, "Yes, ma'am," when asked if she understood what she was doing and believed it to be in her best interest.

There were only two unexpected bumps at the hearing: Defense attorney Kelly Sims asked the judge if his client could travel nationwide for a job while on probation. Alva said yes, so long as her probation officer authorized it.

It's not clear what that job might be. Shellie Zimmerman did not answer questions after the hearing, and Sims would not provide details, saying only, "You must wait for the next chapter."

The other bump involved community service. Her deal requires her to perform 100 hours. Sims told the judge that his client wants to do that at her church, but Alva said Zimmerman must perform it at a place authorized by the Florida Department of Corrections.

Sims said he'd try to work out the details.

After the hearing, Sims called the overall plea deal "more than a triple. It's a homerun." It allows Shellie Zimmerman to move on with her life without a felony conviction on her record.
 ::snipping3::
The official charge filed against her is perjury during an official proceeding - of lying during one of her husband's bond hearings last year. That's a third-degree felony, which carries a possible five-year prison term and $5,000 fine.

She pleaded guilty to perjury but not at an official proceeding, a misdemeanor, punishable by a maximum of one year in jail and a fine of $1,000.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on August 28, 2013, 02:45:30 PM
August 28, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone (https://twitter.com/tonypipitone)

(opened conversation)

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3h
Shellie Zimmerman admits lying under oath, gets 1 yr probation for misdemeanor, avoids felony conviction. http://www.clickorlando.com/news/court-hearing-scheduled-in-shellie-zimmerman-perjury-case/-/1637132/21680138/-/n5h3ct/-/index.html …

 Shawn ‏@GodseyG 2h
@TonyPipitone was she eligible for or did it include judicial diversion?

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
@GodseyG Shellie Zimmerman probably was eligible for pretrial diversion, but prosecutor likely resisted. Adjudication was withheld, though.

9:16 AM - 28 Aug 13 · Details



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on August 29, 2013, 06:53:19 AM
(http://www.cayleedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1377706220000-AP-Neighborhood-Watch.jpg)



http://www.cayleedaily.com/2013/08/george-zimmermans-wife-pleads-guilty-to-perjury/


SOURCE:  Article by USA Today News August 28, 2013

Short URL: http://www.cayleedaily.com/?p=33362


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on August 29, 2013, 09:23:15 AM
Zimmerman's wife to 'think about' staying married
Associated Press – 41 mins ago- ME: (08:30 ext. Time)


 
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Associated Press/Orlando Sentinel, Gary W. Green, Pool - Shellie Zimmerman, wife of George Zimmerman, pleads guilty at the Seminole County Courthouse in Sanford, Fla. on Wednesday, Aug. 28, 2013. Shellie Zimmerman …more  pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor perjury charge for lying during a bail hearing after her husband's arrest, and she was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. (AP Photo/Orlando Sentinel, Gary W. Green, Pool) 

 ::monkeyscissors::


She says the couple lived in hiding while awaiting his trial.

"We have pretty much lived like gypsies for the past year and a half. We've lived in a 20-foot trailer in the woods, scared every night that someone would go and find us and that it would be horrific," she said.

 ::monkeyscissors::
http://news.yahoo.com/zimmermans-wife-think-staying-married-120301746.html



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 29, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Video at the link

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmermans-wife-gma-20130829,0,1785518.story

Shellie Zimmerman: I'll have to think about marriage
BY Kevin P. Connolly and Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
11:08 a.m. EDT, August 29, 2013

Shellie Zimmerman, the wife of acquitted murder suspect George Zimmerman, revealed new details about their strained relationship on Thursday — one day after taking a plea deal in her perjury case.

Shellie Zimmerman expressed uncertainty about the future of their relationship when asked if they are still together.

"I'm not going to answer that," Shellie Zimmerman said in the ABC News interview aired on Good Morning America Thursday.

"Of course I want to have children and stay married..." Shellie Zimmerman said.

"With George?" freelance journalist Christi O'Connor asks.

"That's something I'm going to have think about," Zimmerman responded.

She spoke about how she and George Zimmerman went into hiding after the February 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed teen from Miami Gardens who was visiting his father in Sanford.

"We have been pretty much gypsies for past year and a half," Shellie Zimmerman said. "We lived in a 20-foot trailer in the woods, scared every night that someone was going to find us and that it would be horrific."

She revealed she wasn't home the night her husband confronted Trayvon because they had an argument and she was staying with her father.

She told O'Connor her husband wouldn't have profiled Trayvon, as many have claimed.

"That's just not his way,'' Shellie Zimmerman said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on August 30, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
The interview SZ gave was very telling. Her carefully chosen words, body language and appearance in court alone speak volumes.. They seem kaput... I think SZ will move on, become a nurse, and a good one.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 03, 2013, 01:09:27 PM
I also think that they are kaput.
Move on Shellie.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 03, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/conscience-realist/2013/sep/3/tcth-faces-hurdle-investigating-zimmerman-prosecut/

TCTH faces hurdle investigating Zimmerman prosecutor Angela Corey
Tuesday, September 3, 2013

OCALA, Fla., September 3, 2013 — The popular right-of-center blog that investigated key stories relating to the Trayvon Martin shooting’s aftermath has not stopped its inquiries, even though George Zimmerman was acquitted.

Yesterday, The Conservative Tree House announced that its recent Freedom of Information Act request is making slow progress.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 04, 2013, 07:36:06 PM
Saw on mail online that George was arrested for speeding for the second time since the trial ended. Going 65 in a 45  sigh... Some people never learn. For someone who is so worried about his safety maybe he should stop drawing attention o himself in negative ways? He s  Growing a beard now.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 05, 2013, 05:55:31 PM
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/shellie-zimmerman-george-zimmermans-wife-filing-for-divorce-lawyer-says

Posted: 5:45 PM
•By: KYLE HIGHTOWER ASSOCIATED PRESS
   ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- George Zimmerman's wife is filing for divorce.

   Attorney Kelly Sims confirmed Thursday that his client, Shellie Zimmerman, is divorcing her husband of six years.

   Shellie Zimmerman pleaded guilty last week to a misdemeanor for lying during a bail hearing after her husband's arrest for the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin last year.

   A day after the plea, she told ABC's "Good Morning America" she wasn't sure she wanted to stay married. ABC first reported the divorce Thursday.

   She said the couple lived "like gypsies" after George Zimmerman was released on bail, spending nights in a 20-foot trailer in the woods.

   Her husband wasn't in court with her last week as she was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service.

   George Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder in July.


my next prediction is GZ will be in the news again... and not in a good way.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 05, 2013, 06:22:26 PM
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/shellie-zimmerman-george-zimmermans-wife-filing-for-divorce-lawyer-says

Posted: 5:45 PM
•By: KYLE HIGHTOWER ASSOCIATED PRESS
   ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- George Zimmerman's wife is filing for divorce.

   Attorney Kelly Sims confirmed Thursday that his client, Shellie Zimmerman, is divorcing her husband of six years.

   Shellie Zimmerman pleaded guilty last week to a misdemeanor for lying during a bail hearing after her husband's arrest for the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin last year.

   A day after the plea, she told ABC's "Good Morning America" she wasn't sure she wanted to stay married. ABC first reported the divorce Thursday.

   She said the couple lived "like gypsies" after George Zimmerman was released on bail, spending nights in a 20-foot trailer in the woods.

   Her husband wasn't in court with her last week as she was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service.

   George Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder in July.


my next prediction is GZ will be in the news again... and not in a good way.  ::MonkeyCool::

I wonder if GZ is going to self-destruct.  Getting caught speeding  in such a short time (and receiving a citation on one)  isn't a way to stay under the radar and get his life back on track.   Also, with Shellie filing for divorce, he's left to his own devices.  I can't say I blame her for divorcing him.  Even if you really love someone, the pressure must have been (and still is) tremendous.  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 05, 2013, 09:38:43 PM
I agree Muffers...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on September 06, 2013, 01:01:32 AM
Remember when Sybrina trademarked her son's name so people would quit putting his name on shirts etc? Well guess what they are selling over at the TM Foundation?

That's right official Trayvon Martin Merchandise.

http://trayvonmartinfoundation.org/

(notice it says support the movement with official Trayvon Martin Merchandise).

http://www.fortrayvon.org/?imt=1&utm_campaign=For+Trayvon+Martin&utm_source=TrayvonMartinFoundation.org&utm_medium=Banner&utm_content=Fortrayvon.org

These people make my blood boil and they make Cindy & George look tame.

I'm sorry I have NO sympathy for Tracy & Sybrina.




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 06, 2013, 08:46:32 AM
I feel sorry that they lost their son. I do not like these people and never have. I  think that they saw dollar signs from the get go. Especially Sabrina. I think Tracy is a bit  more genuine, but started seeing the money coming in and has gone long with Sabrina..the brains  behind the operation...jmo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2013, 10:01:51 AM
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/george-zimmermans-wife-says-he-is-selfish#ixzz2e7ZfyCGE
George Zimmerman's wife says he is 'selfish

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- George Zimmerman's wife, Shellie, said she stood by her man "through everything" but once he was acquitted of murder charges in the 2012 shooting of teenager Trayvon Martin, he left her with "a bunch of pieces of broken glass."

Zimmerman, who filed for divorce from George Zimmerman on Thursday, told ABC's "Good Morning America" in an interview aired Friday that her husband is selfish.

In the interview, she said her husband only stayed in their house three or four nights since the trial ended in July and that they even tried counseling but she moved out Aug. 13.

"I have a selfish husband and I think George is all about George," she said.

Last week, Shellie Zimmerman pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor perjury charge for lying during a bail hearing following her husband's arrest after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Martin. She was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. Her husband did not attend the hearing in the Sanford, Fla., courtroom.

"I stood by my husband through everything," she told ABC, "and I kind of feel like he left me with a bunch of pieces of broken glass that I'm supposed to now assemble and make a life."

ABC first reported the divorce filing Thursday. Email messages and phone calls to George Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara were not immediately returned. But Zimmerman's brother, Robert Zimmerman, wrote on Twitter: "Pray 4 them."

Shellie Zimmerman's felony perjury charge came after she lied about the couple's assets when her husband was seeking release from jail on a lower bond. Court records show that in the days before the June 2012 bond hearing, Shellie Zimmerman transferred $74,000 - broken into eight smaller transfers ranging from $7,500 to $9,990 - from her husband's credit union account to hers. It also shows that $47,000 was transferred from George Zimmerman's account to his sister's in the days before the hearing. Amounts of over $10,000 would have been reported to the Internal Revenue Service.

Much of the money came from donations to a website that had been established to pay for George Zimmerman's defense.

During the bond hearing, Shellie Zimmerman testified that the couple had limited funds because she was a full-time student and her husband wasn't working.

After she pleaded guilty, she told ABC that she lied. "I can rationalize a lot of reasons for why I was misleading, but the truth is that I knew I was lying," she said.

In the interview on Friday, Shellie Zimmerman said she'll seek custody of the couple's two dogs and a share of anything he might win in a defamation lawsuit he's filed against NBC.

"I have been married to a person for about seven years and I don't think I ever really knew him at all."

She says her husband was verbally abusive toward her and that he has been making what she considers "reckless decisions." She didn't specify what those decisions were. "In my opinion, he feels more invincible" since his acquittal, she added.

Shellie Zimmerman said the timing seems right to begin a new life.

"I have supported him for so long and neglected myself for too long," Shellie Zimmerman said. "And I feel like I'm finally starting to feel empowered again."

i bet there is more to come...btw.. cashing in on your dead child should be against the law


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 06, 2013, 12:41:14 PM
Perhaps a book deal or a made for TV movie in her near future?

I also do not think that it is ok to cash in on your dead child's demise.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 06, 2013, 02:42:04 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-mark-omara-cnn-20130906,0,6554857.story
Mark O'Mara hired by CNN as legal analyst
September 6, 2013

Mark O'Mara, the Orlando criminal defense attorney who won the acquittal of George Zimmerman, began work as a legal analyst for CNN on Friday, his spokesman reported.

Expect to see him on air several times a week.

O'Mara is no stranger to CNN. He appeared there often in the evening once court was done during Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial in Sanford in June and July and in the days thereafter.

He appeared on other news networks, as well, but none as much as CNN.

He was slated to appear on two CNN daytime news broadcasts Friday, said his spokesman Shawn Vincent. O'Mara's contract calls for him to appear on any CNN program, not just those of specific hosts, he said.


Vincent would not disclose how long the contract runs nor how much O'Mara will be paid.

O'Mara previously worked as legal analyst for WKMG-Channel 6 during the 2011 murder trial of Casey Anthony in Orlando.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 07, 2013, 12:55:25 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/lawyer-george-zimmermans-wife-filing-divorce-20172052

Zimmerman's Wife Seeks Life Insurance Policy
SANFORD, Fla. September 6, 2013

George Zimmerman's wife is asking that he pay for a permanent life insurance policy with her named as the beneficiary, according to a divorce petition made public Friday.

Shellie Zimmerman said in the petition that her husband should pay the premiums on the policy since he "has the financial ability to obtain such life insurance at reasonable rates." She also asked for custody of the couple's 2-year-old Rottweiler, Oso, and 8-year-old Leroy, a mixed-breed dog. They have no children.

Shellie Zimmerman, 26, is seeking an equal distribution of their checking accounts, trusts, partnerships and any unknown assets, and asked that a judge prevent him from selling off any property. Among the unknown assets is any money George Zimmerman may get from a defamation lawsuit he has filed against NBC.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 02:52:52 PM
GZ...in the news again...and not in a good way
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/watch-live-george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody-sky-6-over-scene/-/1637132/21851750/-/fhxdp/-/index.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 03:00:18 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/george-zimmerman-police-custody-after-altercation-/nZrG2/
Police called to disturbance in Lake Mary involving George Zimmerman, gun

LAKE MARY, Fla. —
Channel 9 has learned police were called Monday to a domestic disturbance involving George Zimmerman and a gun at a home in Lake Mary.

Police were called to the scene at Zimmerman's wife's parent's house on Sprucewood Road about 2:30 p.m.  Sources told Channel 9 the altercation was between George Zimmerman and his wife's father, though no other details have been released.

Last week, Zimmerman's wife, Shellie Zimmerman, filed for divorce, weeks after her husband's acquittal in the killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

In an interview with "Good Morning America,"Shellie Zimmerman said her husband has a temper and was verbally abusive.

"I have a selfish husband and I think George is all about George," she said.

Earlier last week, Channel 9 obtained video of Lake Mary police pulling Zimmerman over and issuing him a speeding citation. In the video, Zimmerman apologized for speeding and when asked for his registration, he hesitated and made sure it was OK to reach into his glove compartment.

 "The traffic stop was made. The officer told him why he was being stopped, and Mr. Zimmerman said, 'No problem,'" said Zach Huson of the Lake Mary Police Department. "He provided his material, driver's license, registration and proof of insurance and the citation was issued and that was it."

 The stop lasted about six minutes. During that time, Zimmerman never mentioned anything about being armed.

 He was issued a $256 ticket.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
GZ will not end well.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 03:05:55 PM
Watch live

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/watch-live-george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody-sky-6-over-scene/-/1637132/21851750/-/fhxdp/-/index.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 03:08:17 PM
It seems like watching the Anthony cam...  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 09, 2013, 03:11:38 PM
GZ will not end well.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Flamom, you remarked on that on Sept. 5, only 4 days ago, after he got stopped the second time for speeding: 
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my next prediction is GZ will be in the news again... and not in a good way.
<snip>

And I replied to your post:
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I wonder if GZ is going to self-destruct.
<snip>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14486.msg1575452#msg1575452

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 03:12:28 PM
ok, is that GZ in the checkered shirt hiding under the trees?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 03:15:26 PM
muffybee...  if we live long enough ...we see alot...
and you merely follow the dots..... 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 03:28:58 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  39s 
Lake Mary Chief: Shellie Zimmerman & her dad consulting with lawyer as to whether to press charges against #GeorgeZimmerman.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Lake Mary Chief: Shellie said #GeorgeZimmerman was "very aggressive," threatened her and her family. SZ's attorney now at scene.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Per Lake Mary police chief: Shellie says #GeorgeZimmerman made threats with "hand on his gun," battered her father.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  13m 
Lake Mary PD spokesman confirms Shellie called police. Says he can't confirm reports about a specific threat by #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  14m 
Update: Police spokesman now says #GeorgeZImmerman not considered in custody. Says "detained" is more appropriate term.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 03:38:33 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Again, current info from Lake Mary police chief is #GeorgeZimmerman's wife said he made threats with hand on his gun, battered her father.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 03:41:20 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Update: Lake Mary police spokesman now telling reporters that #GeorgeZimmerman is not in custody or detained. Investigation continues.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
@Salsassin Police say no significant injuries. Also, battery doesn't necessarily mean someone was injured.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 03:44:09 PM
Reminder--Watch live

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/watch-live-george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody-sky-6-over-scene/-/1637132/21851750/-/fhxdp/-/index.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 03:44:15 PM
If SZ or her dad do not file charges.. someone will end up dead a little bit down the road. Filing charges against him may save his or someone else's life


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 03:47:46 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

shannon butler ‏@sbutlerfox35  1m 
Media camped out in front of mark O'mara's office. No statement from his criminal attorney yet. That will be soon #Fox35

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Lake Mary PD spokesman: #GeorgeZimmerman no longer detained. He is cooperating with officers. His attorney isn't at the scene.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 03:49:24 PM
Stop hiding behind the tree and own your actions.
He looks like he got stuck headfirst. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Shellie Zimmerman to dispatcher: #GeorgeZimmerman "just threatening all of us... he punched my dad in the nose."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Police release 911 call. Shellie: “I’m really really afraid. I don’t know what he’s capable of. I’m really, really scared.” #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:07:10 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Shellie Zimmerman to her father in call: “Dad get inside the house, George might start shooting at us.” #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 04:12:00 PM
Now she is worried about his shooting??   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:13:31 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros


Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
#GeorgeZimmerman's attorney just arrived at the house.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
SZ says in call her dad is "shaking, he says he feels like he’s going to have a heart attack, his nose might be broken.” #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

 Phil Landeros ‏@PhilLanderos  3m 
Shellie Zimmerman 911 call: "I don't know if he's going to start shooting at us or what." #FOX35
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
 
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
#GeorgeZimmerman made threats with hand on gun, wife tells cops | Story we're updating: http://bit.ly/1e9UEeZ


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:24:38 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  33s 
Chief Steve Bracknell: "They both have declined to press charges against" #GeorgeZimmerman. "We have no victim, no crime."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Lake Mary police chief confirms: Shellie & her father won't press charges against #GeorgeZimmerman. No arrest forthcoming.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Bracknell: "Basically, we’re documenting the heck out of this thing," in case Shellie changes her mind. No arrest. #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:34:49 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-in-custody-gun-20130909,0,4880482.story

George Zimmerman made threats with hand on gun, wife tells cops
4:17 p.m. EDT, September 9, 2013

George Zimmerman, the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer acquitted of murder in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, is under investigation this afternoon after his wife told police that he'd threatened her family, police confirmed.

Police are investigating a "possible domestic battery" involving Zimmerman on Sprucewood Road, Lake Mary police Officer Zach Hudson said this afternoon.

About 3:40 p.m., Hudson said that Zimmerman was no longer detained and was not in custody. The police spokesman said Zimmerman has been cooperating with police.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:38:35 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Per police Chief Bracknell, both Shellie Zimmerman and her father signed papers declining to prosecute #GeorgeZimmerman.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:41:42 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Fair enough. Should've said press charges. MT @JuddLegum: Victims don't prosecute cases. Police could file charges if they wanted to.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:43:25 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Wife says #GeorgeZimmerman threatened her, but won't press charges | Updated story: http://bit.ly/17lCVv7


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 04:49:13 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Police spokesman tells @renestutzman that #GeorgeZimmerman's free to go, "Mr. Zimmerman appears calm, collected. He's cooperating."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 09, 2013, 04:58:47 PM
He is a walking time bomb. He should be thanking his lucky stars that he was given a second chance. What an idiot.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 05:11:05 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Police spokesman tells reporters that there are video cameras in the house. Investigators will review video. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
Police spokesman tells @renestutzman that #GeorgeZimmerman told cops that Shellie and her father were the aggressors.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  10m 
DJ Dean: "Before the incident he was probably the nicest person I ever met. I think the guilt and self-hatred got to him." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  11m 
Shellie's brother, DJ Dean, was home when today's incident began. Told reporters #GeorgeZImmerman changed after #TrayvonMartin shooting.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on September 09, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
It seems like the shooting changed him and I wonder if he does not have so sort of PTSD.

IF I were him I would go see a Counselor and get the heck out of Florida and move somewhere else.

I really hope nothing bad happens to him.

This whole case is just sad. A young man is dead and the person who shot him seems to be loosing it.

JMO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 06:10:04 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  13m 
O'Mara: "The gun was holstered under his shirt and it stayed there the whole time." Says #GeorgeZimmerman needs to be more "circumspect."

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  14m 
O'Mara: Going forward, #GeorgeZimmerman and Shellie will have contact "only through their attorneys... they're getting divorced."

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  16m 
#GeorgeZimmerman attorney O'Mara says "nobody should be facing charges" in today's incident, "emotions are running very, very high."

Peter King ‏@PeterKingCBS  32m 
Wife says George Zimmerman threatened her, but won't press charges http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-george-zimmerman-in-custody-gun-20130909,0,7435528.story …
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   View summary     

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  35m 
Chief to @LATimes: “This guy is killing me. We’re just a small-town police department.." http://lat.ms/1d05rEF  #GeorgeZimmerman
View summary     

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  49m 
Police spokesman confirms LMPD has #GeorgeZimmerman's gun, but adds: "More than likely we'll be giving it back."

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  50m 
Police spokesman tells @ReneStutzman that "all parties are saying the other started it." Officers are reviewing home-surveillance video.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2013, 07:02:42 PM
It seems like the shooting changed him and I wonder if he does not have so sort of PTSD.

IF I were him I would go see a Counselor and get the heck out of Florida and move somewhere else.

I really hope nothing bad happens to him.

This whole case is just sad. A young man is dead and the person who shot him seems to be loosing it.

JMO
I am sorry, but as a mental health professional for over 30 yrs, I can tell you this is not ptsd. This will not end well for GZ.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 10:35:48 PM
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman-911-called-by-wife/

George Zimmerman: 911 called by wife
10:15 PM on 09/09/2013

updated 10:00 p.m.

George Zimmerman’s wife Shellie called Lake Mary Police Monday afternoon saying her spouse was arguing with her and her father, and that he had a hand on his gun, according to Police Chief Steve Bracknell.

Lake Mary police officers later said that Zimmerman did not have a gun during the incident and cops had not seen any firearm. Zimmerman was “free to go” after police questioned him at a home owned by Shellie Zimmerman’s father, Lake Mary Police public information officer Zach Hudson told NBC News. Shellie Zimmerman and her father declined to press charges against her husband.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 10:38:40 PM
September 9, 2013--Tweets

https://twitter.com/renestutzman

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  4h 
O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman didn't threaten Shellie, father-in-law with a gun today. Everyone overreacted to Shellie moving out 'pots&pans'


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 09, 2013, 10:53:05 PM
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/23381436/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman-in-custody

Zimmerman's wife won't press charges despite call
Sep 09, 2013 2:05 PM CDT
Updated: Sep 09, 2013 9:17 PM CDT

ORLANDO (FOX 13) - The sobbing wife of George Zimmerman called 911 Monday to report that her estranged husband was threatening her with a gun and had punched her father in the nose, but hours later decided not to press charges against the man acquitted of all charges for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin.

Lake Mary police officers were still investigating the encounter as a domestic dispute, but no charges had been filed Monday afternoon. Shellie Zimmerman left the house after being questioned by police. George Zimmerman remained there into early evening and his attorney denied any wrongdoing by his client. He was not arrested.

Shellie Zimmerman, who has filed for divorce, initially told a 911 dispatcher that her husband had his hand on his gun as he sat in his car outside the home she was at with her father. She said she was scared because she wasn't sure what Zimmerman was capable of doing. Hours later she changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell.

For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said.

On the 911 call, Shellie Zimmerman is sobbing and repeating "Oh my God" as she talks to a police dispatcher. She yells at her father to get inside the house, saying Zimmerman may start shooting at them.

"He's threatening all of us with a firearm ... He punched my dad in the nose," Shellie Zimmerman said on the call. "I don't know what he's capable of. I'm really scared."

She also said he grabbed an iPad from her hand and smashed it.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said his client never threatened his estranged wife and her father with a gun and never punched his father-in-law. Shellie Zimmerman had collected most of her belongings Saturday from the house, which is owned by her parents, where she and George had both been staying there until she moved out. She had returned unexpectedly Monday to gather the remaining items. Emotions got out of control, but neither side is filing charges against the other, O'Mara said.

"I know the 911 tape suggests that Shellie was saying something but I think that was heightened emotions," O'Mara said. "There may have been some pushing and touching. That happens a lot in divorce situations ... Nobody was injured."

Her father also declined to press charges, the police chief said.

Prosecutors could still build a case based on surveillance video from cameras outside the house and also video from the squad cars of officers who responded. Florida law allows police officers to arrest someone for domestic violence without the consent of the victim.

Police spokesman Zach Hudson said the estranged husband and wife were blaming each other for being the aggressor and that police officers were sorting through their accounts
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 09, 2013, 11:25:58 PM
Here's a thought that ran through my head.  Has it occurred to anyone else Shellie Zimmerman has filed for divorce and some of what is alleged to have happened may having something to do with swaying a judgement her way?  I'm not taking her side or GZ's side.  I've seen enough divorce cases where one party may attempt to paint the other in a not so complimentary light.  GZ is an easy target right now.  Yes, he may have gottn stopped for speeding and a short time later, he got a speeding ticket.  That doesn't make him guilty of anything beyond that.  I jumped into that with both feet myself, by questioning whether he was going to self-destruct.  Maybe he will, maybe he won't.  But this thing with Shellie...  She's been dragged through heck because of the trial etc.  I can't say I blame her for wanting out.  She has been doing interviews and shredding his name and reputation.  And she has filed for divorce.  She may very well be justified in her complaints.  Maybe GZ is/was a bad as she says.  But I'm keeping in mind she has an interest in GZ appearing to look bad.  She's filed to get half the money in the suit against NBC, if he wins.  As I said, I'm not taking one side or the other, but I'm keeping in mind we're seeing one side of this.  Let's see what happens. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 10, 2013, 12:00:54 AM
I've been thinking the same thing, MuffyBee.  We'll see...



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 10, 2013, 12:46:59 AM
http://www.examiner.com/article/zimmerman-custody-update-george-released-as-wife-shellie-recants-allegations

Zimmerman custody update: George released as wife Shellie recants allegations
September 9, 2013

 ::snipping3::
During the 911 call Shellie Zimmerman said that George Zimmerman had hit her father in the nose, had broken her iPad and had threatened to further harm them. At the end of the call it seems Shellie and her father determined there was a woman in the car with George, and that did not go over well.
 ::snipping3::
Click Orlando shares additional details. It seems that George Zimmerman was at the home of Shellie's parents as he was moving out some belongings. George is claiming that Shellie was the aggressor in the situation. While no charges have been filed and George Zimmerman is not in custody, police have taken the surveillance tapes from Shellie's father, David Dean. The police indicate that charges could come later if the tapes show a crime occurred.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 10, 2013, 12:55:40 AM
Video at the link--and other links.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody-after-incident-with-gun-police-say/-/1637132/21851424/-/tlxm3oz/-/index.html

No charges filed in George Zimmerman's alleged gun threat against wife
Published On: Sep 09 2013 02:36:14 PM EDT   Updated On: Sep 10 2013 12:30:19 AM EDT

LAKE MARY, Fla. - 
No charges have been filed against George Zimmerman on Monday as the investigation continues into if he threatened his estranged wife with a gun, as she originally told Central Florida police.

[PICS:Zimmerman questioned | AUDIO: 911 call (Warning: CONTENT MAY BE GRAPHIC)] RAW VIDEO: Zimmerman's attorney speaks

Lake Mary police say they were called around 2:30 p.m. to the Sprucewood Road home owned by Shellie Zimmerman's parents, David and Machelle Dean.

According to Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell, Shellie Zimmerman called 911 claiming George Zimmerman had a gun and was making threats
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 10, 2013, 08:26:04 AM
I've been thinking the same thing, MuffyBee.  We'll see...



Some more thoughts I had I on the same line of thinking.  Shellie herself was just in court for lying under oath and has terms of probation etc., so she's not exactly without her own faults.  She was villified by some for this (via public opinion and the media) and yet not long after her guilty plea and sentencing Shellie comes out and starts giving interviews.  She plants the seed of her unhappiness, noting she isn't happy in her marriage and how difficult their time was since the shooting.  Shellie announces her divorce. all the while she's  garnering sympathy for what she went through and then there are the allegations in regard to an incident with GZ.  Was this planned by Shellie and her attorneys?  One minute it's like folks are ready to throw Shellie to the lion's for being a greedy liar, and the next, she's given sympathy as she discusses her troubles on talk shows and interviews.  The media makes money on the stories, Shellie makes money in interviews (a book somewhere down the line?) but I'm keeping an eye on the suit GZ is bringing against NBC that she want's half of.  Shellie may be justified in her feelings and GZ may have been a dolt and he may have been difficult to be married to, but it appears to me Shellie has had some legal counseling and with it, some other advice.  It looks to me like Shellie doesn't just want a divorce, she wants the dogs, she wants a full paid life insurance policy on GZ for the rest of her life, and she wants half of a possible legal settlement.  What better way to insure she gets those things than the allegations she made in regard to GZ this past week?  The news articles say after talking with her attorney, she didn't want to file charges on GZ.  If she really felt threatened, why wouldn't she?  For one thing, it would bring her back into court again and she's still on probation.  That could get messy.  Besides, the mission has already been accomplished and that was to put out into the negative s out into the public via media.

In other words, GZ may have his issues, but so does Shellie, imo.  And there's a possible agenda, with financial gain.  JMHO  GZ may be all the bad things Shellie said, but we haven't heard anything from GZ about Shellie either.  GZ is an easy target after his trial.  There's already the emotional factors and it doesn't take much to fan those flames again.  The media and talk shows have more fodder.  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 10, 2013, 08:44:49 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2416275/George-Zimmerman-taken-police-custody-getting-altercation-involving-gun.html#ixzz2eUb773Gu

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George Zimmerman was today questioned by police after allegedly threatening his estranged wife with a handgun in an altercation sparked by claims he has been having an affair, MailOnline can reveal.

Friend and key defense witness John Donnelly told MailOnline: 'George has been having an affair with his ex-fiancee. Shellie believes it flared back up after the acquittal.'

Zimmerman's only publicly known former fiancee was beautician Veronica Zuazo, who herself filed a domestic violence complaint against him in a messy series of counter complaints that led to their split.


Police were called to the Lake Mary, Florida residence owned by Shellie Zimmerman's parents, David and Machelle Dean, after she made a panicked 911 call at around 2.15pm Monday.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 10, 2013, 08:59:11 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/10/george-zimmerman-fight-new-girlfriend-estranged-wife-shellie-dad-911/

Turf War Over Rented Home
George Zimmerman allegedly punched his estranged wife's father during a childish dispute over who had the right to be in the house -- the renter or the owner, aka George or his daddy-in-law ... TMZ has learned.

Sources close to Zimmerman tell us, George and his estranged wife Shellie Zimmerman have been renting a home from her parents, but ever since she filed for divorce they've been avoiding each other like the plague -- scheduling house visits ahead of time to keep the peace.

Must've been a snafu in scheduling -- because we're told George showed up Monday AM to remove some things, and ran into Shellie and her dad.

We're told the argument erupted when Pops declared it was his house, and George replied that he was paying rent ... and had every right to be there. The spat ended when Zimmerman allegedly punched Shellie's dad in the face.

Complicating matters was the fact George brought his new girlfriend with him. We're told she was waiting in his car while he went inside, and didn't get out until police arrived.

At the end of Shellie's 911 call you can hear her say, "There's a woman in there. Oh my god."

As for the identity of George's gf -- we're told she appears to be someone new ... NOT George's ex-fiancée, despite what reports are saying.
..



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on September 10, 2013, 09:42:59 AM
Here's a thought that ran through my head.  Has it occurred to anyone else Shellie Zimmerman has filed for divorce and some of what is alleged to have happened may having something to do with swaying a judgement her way?  I'm not taking her side or GZ's side.  I've seen enough divorce cases where one party may attempt to paint the other in a not so complimentary light.  GZ is an easy target right now.  Yes, he may have gottn stopped for speeding and a short time later, he got a speeding ticket.  That doesn't make him guilty of anything beyond that.  I jumped into that with both feet myself, by questioning whether he was going to self-destruct.  Maybe he will, maybe he won't.  But this thing with Shellie...  She's been dragged through heck because of the trial etc.  I can't say I blame her for wanting out.  She has been doing interviews and shredding his name and reputation.  And she has filed for divorce.  She may very well be justified in her complaints.  Maybe GZ is/was a bad as she says.  But I'm keeping in mind she has an interest in GZ appearing to look bad.  She's filed to get half the money in the suit against NBC, if he wins.  As I said, I'm not taking one side or the other, but I'm keeping in mind we're seeing one side of this.  Let's see what happens. 

That is the first thing that I thought of...if I were his wife filing for divorce and of questionable character...I would set him up...how would I do that? Say there was a gun? Why? That's what America is looking for with GZ right now...everyone will believe her. I'm on the iPad right now so I can't bring it over, but I read an article somewhere talking about there not being a gun and no injuries to the dad and so on...hmmm.  Sounds to me that's it's possible (not saying its certain) she is setting him up.  Who knows maybe he's just that stupid. But really? 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 10, 2013, 10:01:22 AM
Good thoughts Muffers.
 Shellie stands to gain financially and she is not exactly trustworthy about telling the truth as we all know.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 10, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
I think we'll just have to see how the latest plays out.  I'm sure either way the media will have a field day, since this is the sort of thing that sells news.  ::MonkeyWink::   


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 10, 2013, 12:12:06 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/justice/zimmerman-lawyer/

Attorney Mark O'Mara drops George Zimmerman 
updated 12:01 PM EDT, Tue September 10, 2013

(CNN) -- Mark O'Mara, the attorney who successfully defended George Zimmerman in his second-degree murder trial this year, will no longer represent his notorious client.

"I am not representing George Zimmerman in his recent domestic altercation case or his impending divorce case," O'Mara told CNN
 ::snipping3::
O'Mara, now a legal analyst for CNN, continues to be the attorney of record in the impending defamation lawsuit against NBC; Pennsylvania attorney Jim Beasley will be the lead attorney on the case.

He will also still be involved with outstanding sanction motions and recovery of costs from the state of Florida for expenses related to Zimmerman's murder trial.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on September 10, 2013, 12:44:19 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/justice/zimmerman-lawyer/

Attorney Mark O'Mara drops George Zimmerman 
updated 12:01 PM EDT, Tue September 10, 2013

(CNN) -- Mark O'Mara, the attorney who successfully defended George Zimmerman in his second-degree murder trial this year, will no longer represent his notorious client.

"I am not representing George Zimmerman in his recent domestic altercation case or his impending divorce case," O'Mara told CNN
 ::snipping3::
O'Mara, now a legal analyst for CNN, continues to be the attorney of record in the impending defamation lawsuit against NBC; Pennsylvania attorney Jim Beasley will be the lead attorney on the case.

He will also still be involved with outstanding sanction motions and recovery of costs from the state of Florida for expenses related to Zimmerman's murder trial.

Yeah...don't think I would get involved either.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 10, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
 :smt102

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/shellie-zimmerman-tells-fla-police-her-husband-george-did-not-threaten-her/2013/09/10/dbed94e8-1a19-11e3-8685-5021e0c41964_story.html
Shellie Zimmerman tells Fla. police her husband George did not threaten her
September 10, 2013



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 10, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/south/2013/09/zimmermans_wife_wont_press_charges_despite_call
Zimmerman's wife won't press charges despite call
September 10, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Shellie Zimmerman, 26, who has filed for divorce, initially told a 911 dispatcher that her husband had his hand on his gun as he sat in his car outside the home she was at with her father. She said she was scared because she wasn't sure what the 29-year-old Zimmerman was capable of doing. Hours later she changed her story and said she never saw a firearm, said Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell.

For the time being, "domestic violence can't be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn't see a firearm," Bracknell said.

"We didn't find a gun," Lake Mary police spokesman Zach Hudson said late Monday night. "We didn't find anything that indicated he had a gun on his person."

Hudson said Zimmerman was released from investigative detention at around 6:30 p.m. and "he just walked back into the house."

"Right now he's not a suspect in anything per se, but were still viewing the video and trying to ascertain what new information that may yield," he said, referring to video from home surveillance cameras outside the house.

On the 911 call, Shellie Zimmerman is sobbing and repeating "Oh my God" as she talks to a police dispatcher. She yells at her father to get inside the house, saying Zimmerman may start shooting at them.

"He's threatening all of us with a firearm ... He punched my dad in the nose," Shellie Zimmerman said on the call. "I don't know what he's capable of. I'm really scared."

She also said he grabbed an iPad from her hand and smashed it.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said his client never threatened his estranged wife and her father with a gun and never punched his father-in-law. Shellie Zimmerman had collected most of her belongings Saturday from the house, which is owned by her parents, where she and George had both been staying until she moved out. She had returned unexpectedly Monday to gather the remaining items. Emotions got out of control, O'Mara said, but neither side is filing charges against the other.

"I know the 911 tape suggests that Shellie was saying something but I think that was heightened emotions," O'Mara said. "There may have been some pushing and touching. That happens a lot in divorce situations ... Nobody was injured."

Her father also declined to press charges, the police chief said.

Prosecutors could still build a case based on surveillance video from cameras outside the house and also video from the squad cars of officers who responded. Florida law allows police officers to arrest someone for domestic violence without the consent of the victim.

Hudson said the estranged husband and wife were blaming each other for being the aggressor and that police officers were sorting through their accounts.

In her divorce filing last week, Shellie Zimmerman said she and her husband had separated a month after he was acquitted of any crime for fatally shooting the 17-year-old Martin in Sanford, not far from where Monday's investigation happened.

Shellie Zimmerman asked the dispatcher to send an ambulance to check her father out. A fire department ambulance arrived at the house, Hudson said, but nobody needed to be transported.

"The call went out as a 911 call that Mr. Zimmerman was threatening them with a firearm," Hudson said. "We're trying to see if that's true or not."

Later Monday night, Hudson said, "She basically said he made a movement that would be consistent with a movement someone would make if they had a gun." But no gun was found.

Shellie Zimmerman had asked that her husband pay for a permanent life insurance policy with her named as the beneficiary, according to a divorce petition made public last week.

In an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America" that aired last Friday, Zimmerman said her husband left her with "a bunch of pieces of broken glass" after the acquittal. She said he only stayed in their house three or four nights since the trial ended and that they even tried counseling. But she moved out Aug. 13.

"I have a selfish husband and I think George is all about George," she said.

George Zimmerman's brother Robert Zimmerman Jr., tweeted after the news got out of the dispute at the home that "we've learned from GZ case not to 'jump to conclusions,' to wait for facts, & to avoid speculation. 'News' is a business — not your friend."

Last month, Shellie Zimmerman pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor perjury charge for lying about the couple's finances during a bail hearing following her husband's arrest in Martin's shooting.
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Shellie Zimmerman was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of community service. Her husband did not attend the sentencing hearing in the Sanford courtroom.
 ::snipping3::

Video at Link


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 10, 2013, 03:35:42 PM
I think GZ and SZ should stay far, far away from one another and go through their respective attorneys if they need to communicate.  JMHO


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/10/20423557-cops-trying-to-recover-footage-from-zimmerman-ipad-after-dispute?lite
Cops trying to recover footage from Zimmerman iPad after dispute
September 10, 2013

George Zimmerman's wife used her iPad to record a confrontation with her husband, and investigators are trying to recover the footage, Florida police said Tuesday.
"We're going to be taking it to be forensically analyzed," Lake Mary, Fla., Police public information officer Zach Hudson told NBC News. "It should have a good bit of information on it."
The iPad was broken into pieces during Monday's dispute between George Zimmerman and his wife Shellie — who called 911 and said her husband threatened her with a handgun and attacked her father.
Police responded but no one was charged.
"We have absolutely no proof whatsoever that a weapon was involved in this incident," Hudson said.
After five years of marriage, Shellie Zimmerman filed for divorce less than a week ago — a month after her husband was acquitted of murder in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin.
Hudson said it's possible someone could eventually be charged with domestic battery stemming from Tuesday afternoon's incident, but they are still trying to sort out what happened.
In the 911 call obtained by NBC News, Shellie Zimmerman told the dispatcher her husband had “accosted” her father and “punched” him in the nose, leaving a “mark” on his face. 
But fire officials who responded to the scene found no visible injuries on any of the parties, officials said.
At the beginning of the call, Shellie Zimmerman told the dispatcher: “He’s in his car and he continually has his hand on his gun and he keeps saying, ‘Step closer.’ He’s just threatening all of us with his firearm.”
She later alleged that her husband took the iPad out of her hands and “smashed and cut it with a pocket knife.”
“I don’t know what he’s capable of,” she said on the call. “I’m really, really scared.”
Police said George Zimmerman portrayed his wife as the aggressor in the confrontation.
In addition to the iPad, investigators will be reviewing security video from the house and from dashboard cameras on the cars of the responding officers, Hudson said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Blonde on September 10, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
Video from an iPad belonging to the estranged wife of George Zimmerman may be crucial evidence in determining whether any charges are filed against the former neighborhood watchman, police said Tuesday.

Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was “smashed” into pieces and needed to be examined in a lab.

"As of right now, a gun is not a part of the equation."
- Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson

“It’s been pretty badly damaged,” Hudson told the Orlando Sentinel, adding that George Zimmerman could potentially be charged with destruction of evidence if authorities confirm Shellie Zimmerman’s allegation that he destroyed the device.

Shellie Zimmerman, who filed for divorce last week a month after her husband was acquitted of fatally shooting Trayvon Martin in February 2012, called 911 on Monday, claiming her estranged husband was threatening her and her father with a gun. She later changed her story and decided against pressing charges. No gun was ever found.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/10/ipad-video-could-be-key-in-george-zimmerman-domestic-dispute-probe/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on September 10, 2013, 05:43:37 PM
Video from an iPad belonging to the estranged wife of George Zimmerman may be crucial evidence in determining whether any charges are filed against the former neighborhood watchman, police said Tuesday.

Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson said the iPad captured video of the dispute, but the mobile device was “smashed” into pieces and needed to be examined in a lab.

"As of right now, a gun is not a part of the equation."
- Lake Mary Police Department spokesman Zach Hudson

“It’s been pretty badly damaged,” Hudson told the Orlando Sentinel, adding that George Zimmerman could potentially be charged with destruction of evidence if authorities confirm Shellie Zimmerman’s allegation that he destroyed the device.

Shellie Zimmerman, who filed for divorce last week a month after her husband was acquitted of fatally shooting Trayvon Martin in February 2012, called 911 on Monday, claiming her estranged husband was threatening her and her father with a gun. She later changed her story and decided against pressing charges. No gun was ever found.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/10/ipad-video-could-be-key-in-george-zimmerman-domestic-dispute-probe/

I think it does say a lot if he is the one that smashed the iPad...and she was recording him.  If that is the story.  If the story is he bought the iPad and they fought over it, we'll then who knows. They really need to stay away from each other.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 10, 2013, 07:19:53 PM
Did anyone hear the 911 tape where Shellie appeared to be upset because she saw the woman in George's truck?
Shellie may have been the one who smashed the ipad. This whole thing just stinks to high heaven.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 10, 2013, 09:37:36 PM
Did anyone hear the 911 tape where Shellie appeared to be upset because she saw the woman in George's truck?
Shellie may have been the one who smashed the ipad. This whole thing just stinks to high heaven.

Yep, she wasn't a happy lady.

I wonder how many more things she's going to recant about the situation.  I'm beginning to think that she regrets making that 911 call.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 10, 2013, 09:41:26 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/10/medical-examiner-in-george-zimmerman-trial-fired/

Medical examiner in George Zimmerman trial fired
Published September 10, 2013

The medical examiner who performed Trayvon Martin's autopsy and subsequently offered conflicting testimony at the murder trial of George Zimmerman has been relieved of his position.

Shiping Bao was fired from his position as an associate medical examiner last week, Fox News confirms. The examiner's last day on the job was Sept. 6.  Dr. Bao has retained a lawyer and is suing Volusia County.
 ::snipping3::




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cecilita on September 11, 2013, 12:33:44 AM
Hi monkeys ::monkeyflag3:
I hope that GZ new lawyer will put a restrained order to GZ wife. She will kill him using "self defense" and get $$$$$$$...her 911 call sounds very fake... ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/ipad-video-becomes-key-george-zimmerman-case-222609262.html
iPad video becomes key in George Zimmerman case
Associated PressBy MIKE SCHNEIDER | Associated Press – 5 hrs ago

LAKE MARY, Fla. (AP) — Police in central Florida have been focusing on a broken iPad in their investigation of a domestic dispute between George Zimmerman and his estranged wife this week.

Without video from the iPad or some other piece of independent evidence, legal experts said it will be hard to build a case because Shellie Zimmerman changed her story about her husband threatening her with a gun and decided not to press charges.

"I think it's severely limited if they can't get anything from an eyewitness or video," said Randy McClean, a former prosecutor who now practices criminal defense and family law in central Florida.

Police said Tuesday they were confident they would be able to get video from Shellie Zimmerman's broken iPad, and the evidence will help them determine if charges should be filed.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2013, 11:32:24 AM
http://newsone.com/2715972/dr-shiping-bao-lawsuit/

Medical Examiner In Zimmerman Trial Sues For $100M, Claims Prosecution Threw Case [VIDEO]
Sep 11, 2013


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2013, 12:59:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De8AIe69iQs

George Zimmerman Alleged iPad Smashing
Published on Sep 11, 2013



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 11, 2013, 03:23:03 PM
Why is it so difficult to find a sympathetic figure in this whole psychodrama?
Dr Bao was an embarrassment and Willie Gary , who is from my area, hasn't had a big case in the papers for awhile except his financial difficulties...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 11, 2013, 03:53:53 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/11/george-zimmerman-wont-face-charges-anytime-soon/2800397/

George Zimmerman won't face charges anytime soon
Yamiche Alcindor, USA TODAY 2:58 p.m. EDT September 11, 2013

George Zimmerman won't face charges anytime soon in connection with a dispute he had with his estranged wife and his father-in-law, police in Lake Mary, Fla., said Wednesday.

On Monday, Shellie Zimmerman told a 911 dispatcher that her husband smashed an iPad she was holding, struck her father in the nose and threatened both father and daughter while putting a hand on a gun. After police arrived, she decided not to press charges against her husband, who was acquitted in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in July. Now, police say they can't get to possible video of the fight that might be on the iPad.

"The iPad is in really bad shape," said officer Zach Hudson, a spokesman for the Lake Mary Police Department. "At this point, we do not have the tools available to effectively look at the video on the iPad."

He added that there was also some "chip damage" to the device and that officials think information from the device could be inaccessible for a long time.

"As it stands right now, there will not be any charges anytime soon without that iPad," Hudson said.

Still, a "lengthy police report" of the confrontation between the couple will be released sometime on Wednesday, he said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 11, 2013, 08:17:56 PM
Two-page article

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-domestic-violence-20130911,0,2640693.story?page=1

George Zimmerman: Police report released, no charges 'any time soon'

By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
4:34 p.m. EDT, September 11, 2013

LAKE MARY - George Zimmerman did so much damage to an iPad that his estranged wife was using to video-record their domestic argument that authorities cannot quickly recover images and thus he will not face arrest "any time soon," police said today.

Police today also released their report from the incident, which occurred Monday at a house on Sprucewood Road.

Shellie Zimmerman, her father and a helper had gone to the house, where Zimmerman was living, to collect her property in the wake of her recently filed divorce.

However, an argument erupted between George Zimmerman and Shellie Zimmerman's father, David Dean, the report states.

According to the report, Shellie Zimmerman told police on the scene that George Zimmerman had punched her father and threatened everyone inside the house with a gun.

At some point during the argument, George Zimmerman reached into his shirt and urged Dean, to "step closer," Shellie told police. Dean said, "'What are you going to do, shoot me?' "

Shellie Zimmerman told police Zimmerman took her iPad from her as she attempted to record the incident, smashed it on his leg, "then took out a knife and pried it open" before throwing it on the ground.

George Zimmerman told police that he did not brandish a gun or threaten anyone with a gun, according to the report.

Officers who responded and searched Zimmerman didn't find a gun on him, police officials have said.

George Zimmerman said Shellie's father confronted him in the garage, charged him and tried to attack him, according to the report. Zimmerman said a friend with him grabbed Dean to keep them separate, and Shellie smacked the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer several times on the back with her iPad.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 11, 2013, 08:23:21 PM
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-zimmerman-ipad-20130911,0,334664.story

George Zimmerman told police his wife 'smacked' him with an iPad
September 11, 2013, 3:08 p.m.

No wonder investigators are so interested in that iPad: George Zimmerman told police his estranged wife used the device to hit him during their domestic spat. Shellie Zimmerman was recording their fight with the device.

Lake Mary, Fla., police released more records Wednesday on the confrontation that occurred at the pair's home earlier in the week. Shellie Zimmerman had returned to gather some things as she prepared to divorce her husband. When George Zimmerman returned, they began to argue and record each other.

The police reports detail what has previously been reported -- that Shellie Zimmerman initially phoned police saying George Zimmerman was threatening her and her father, that she accused her husband of hitting her father, that he smashed and slashed her iPad.

It's now a little clearer why police have said either Zimmerman might be charged with domestic battery.

When police arrived, George Zimmerman told officers that Shellie Zimmerman's father, David Dean, had thrown down his glasses and charged at him to get into a fight, and at some point during the confrontation, Shellie "smacked him several times on his back with the iPad."

That's when Zimmerman took the iPad and smashed it over his knee, he told police.

Although it's undisputed that George Zimmerman destroyed the iPad, officials have pointed out that it was jointly owned, and you can't charge someone for destroying his or her own property.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 12, 2013, 01:50:20 AM
Video at the link

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/09/11/all-eyes-on-broken-ipad-in-new-george-zimmerman-case/

Shellie Zimmerman Holds Press Conference Alongside Attorney On Domestic Dispute
September 11, 2013 11:15 PM

LAKE MARY (CBSMiami/AP) – For the first time since a very messy domestic dispute between George Zimmerman and his wife Shellie, we’re hearing from Shellie, kind-of.

Tonight, she stood next to her attorney in Orlando as he spoke for her.

“Shellie zimmerman wants this relationship to end with a wimper, not a bang,” said attorney Kelly Sims.   “Shellie’s desire is to stay as far away from him as she can for the rest of her days.”

Right now, all eyes are focused on a broken iPad which is now at the center of an investigation involving a domestic dispute between George and his estranged wife.

Shellie was documenting her trip to her father’s house in Lake Mary, Florida on Monday. She was there to pick up a few things she had left behind when she moved out because she recently filed for divorce from George.

But George showed up and the two got into it.

“We have one allegation from George that he was struck with the iPad during the confrontation.  Then we have one from Shellie that said that George had physical contact with her.  So you have allegations on both, we’re just trying to bring clarity to that,” explained Zach Hudson from the Lake Mary Police Department.

Investigators believe what ever happened was captured on that iPad.

“You had Mr. Zimmerman taking photos and video of belongings he thought were his,” said Hudson.  “Then you had Shellie doing the same thing, she was following him around.”
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 12, 2013, 08:11:03 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2417905/George-Zimmermans-affair-SECOND-woman-arrested.html#ixzz2egCoIq73

 ::snipping3::
George Zimmerman has been accused of cheating on his wife with a SECOND woman who was by his side on the afternoon of his dramatic showdown with estranged wife Shellie, MailOnline can reveal today.

It emerged today that a blonde woman was with Zimmerman on Monday afternoon at the house - where Zimmerman, 29, and his wife Shellie, 26, hid out for much of the Trayvon Martin murder trial - when Shellie confronted her husband over his serial infidelity as they split their belongings days after she filed for divorce

 ::snipping3::
The police report says a 'visibly shaken' Scheibe was patted down by officers. The report went on: 'She had no idea what was going on...Scheibe stated that (Zimmerman) never touched anyone. Scheibe stated there were guns in the vehicle but they had concealed weapons permits for the guns.'

It added she refused to give a statement.

A source close to the couple told MailOnline: ‘George took off after the acquittal and struck up an affair with his ex-fiancée but now he’s got a new girlfriend, a blonde woman who was there that afternoon. He brought her back to Shellie’s father’s place.

‘She was there at the domestic. The audacity of the guy is unbelievable. None of his friends know where his head is.’

MailOnline revealed earlier this week that Zimmerman had an affair with former fiancee Veronica Zuazo, 31, sometime after his acquittal in July.

The existence of a second lover emerged on the day that police revealed it could be months before Shellie and Zimmerman learn if either of them will face charges in relation to the altercation.

 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 12, 2013, 08:13:03 AM
Guns, affairs, perjury, domestic violence, murder....   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on September 12, 2013, 08:32:33 AM
Oh please, it sounds like they both need to stay away from one another.  I wouldn't believe a thing from ANY of this.  Both sides are so messed up! Now, on to important news.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 12, 2013, 11:14:44 AM
Just an observation, but Shellie obviously wasn't happy about a woman being in George's company at the time of the domestic.  Hadn't she already started filing for divorce the week before?  She had already trashed George in the media, but I don't recall anything about infidelity in regard to the divorce filing.  Shellie didn't want to be married to George anymore and filed for divorce and then gets mad because he's seenwith a woman in the car a week later.  Does she want him or doesn't she?  The article above sounds very tabloid like.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Maybe Shellie thought she was going to pull the rug out from under GZ by filing for divorce and trash talking him, and he shows up with a woman. That must have been a gotcha moment for Shellie.  From what I gather, GZ didn't expect Shellie to be there at the time.  It's not like he was in bed with a woman and Shellie walked in.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


My former SIL filed for divorce from my bil, after 20 years of marriage and two kids. She had it all worked out as far as money and assets etc.  Her life was looking good. She had a new car, not having to work, and not having BIL around.  BIL was devastated and begged, groveled etc.  He thought life was over, thought he couldn't live without her and gave into anything she wanted.    A few months later, BIL ran into a gal he knew from high school.  Well, that was a game changer. Finally he started listening to his family and the folks that cared about him.  He got a good attorney and started working on things.  His ex couldn't account for a load of family jewelry etc.  BIL quit giving her everything she had wanted and she ended up with a divorce settlement that was much smaller than she anticipated.   ::MonkeyTongue::  He married this high school gal (who's hubby had died from cancer the yr. before), and they've been happy ever since.  I've never seen him smile so much.  The SIL was aghast.  EX later accused BIL of infidelity while married to her (uh-uh).  EX SIL didn't want him, but got highly incensed when another woman cropped up.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Shellie filed for divorce from GZ, which to me shows intention of no longer wanting to be in a state of marriage.  Because GZ is seen in the company of a woman(sitting in his car, this means he's "cheating"?  Really?  Maybe so, maybe not.  And how does this woman in GZ's company become a "second lover"?  If a person sitting in a car with another person of the opposite sex qualifies them as a "lover" I know a lot of people in trouble.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  That's the Daily Mail for ya'.  And, it could be more cannon fodder for  Shellie the upcoming divorce.  She filed for divorce, but then he's seen with two different women. Waaaa!  (sarcasm) 

I'm not too worried if GZ has a woman besides his wife.  Or a second woman for that matter.  We don't really know what all of it is about.  Obviously the Z marriage has been in trouble for a long while.  All we have right now is Shellie's side of the whole thing.  I think they should stay way, way away from one another.  If she wants her divorce to go out "with a wimper and not a bang", then she needs to stop making the talk show rounds.  She's fueled the fires herself imo.  The media is having a field day!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on September 12, 2013, 03:01:42 PM
I really wish the media would have a field day about Mommy & Daddy making money off of their dead son.

Cindy & George NEVER stooped this low....... No only are they selling 3 different kinds of T-shirts for $26.00 each, on the Trayvon Martin Foundation website, You can buy Phone Covers, Buttons, Stickers & a Poster.

http://trayvonmartinfoundation.org/product-category/merchandise/


The shirts are on the fortrayvon site.

This REALLY pisses me off.

Now we all know why Sybrina trademarked his name.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 12, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
I really wish the media would have a field day about Mommy & Daddy making money off of their dead son.

Cindy & George NEVER stooped this low....... No only are they selling 3 different kinds of T-shirts for $26.00 each, on the Trayvon Martin Foundation website, You can buy Phone Covers, Buttons, Stickers & a Poster.

http://trayvonmartinfoundation.org/product-category/merchandise/


The shirts are on the fortrayvon site.

This REALLY pisses me off.

Now we all know why Sybrina trademarked his name.



yep


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 12, 2013, 03:17:53 PM
Muffers...agree with your above post..
sounds like Shellie didn't want him but she doesn't want him to have anyone else either...have seen it in divorces all the time..


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 12, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
Muffers...agree with your above post..
sounds like Shellie didn't want him but she doesn't want him to have anyone else either...have seen it in divorces all the time..

I'm not sure how much we're reading is the truth.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: tupelohoney on September 13, 2013, 10:22:03 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/florida-police-chief-agrees-george-zimmerman-is-another-sandy-hook-waiting-to-happen/

Florida Police Chief Agrees George Zimmerman is Another ‘Sandy Hook Waiting to Happen’
 6:22 pm, September 12th, 2013

In a series of emails obtained by ThinkProgress, Police Chief Steve Bracknell appears to agree in a series of emails that Zimmerman is a “ticking time bomb” and another “Sandy Hook” or “Aurora” “waiting to happen.”  ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 13, 2013, 11:00:13 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/florida-police-chief-agrees-george-zimmerman-is-another-sandy-hook-waiting-to-happen/

Florida Police Chief Agrees George Zimmerman is Another ‘Sandy Hook Waiting to Happen’
 6:22 pm, September 12th, 2013

In a series of emails obtained by ThinkProgress, Police Chief Steve Bracknell appears to agree in a series of emails that Zimmerman is a “ticking time bomb” and another “Sandy Hook” or “Aurora” “waiting to happen.”  ::snipping3::

In my opinion, his agreeing to the email comment was irresponsible for a police chief.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 13, 2013, 11:11:22 AM
According to the police, after investigating the incident, no gun was found/used.  His "backtracking" comment is wrong. too.  Again, an irresponsible comment by the police chief in my opinion.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/13/steve-bracknell-george-zimmerman-comments_n_3919759.html

Steve Bracknell, Lake Mary Police Chief, Walks Back George Zimmerman Comments: Report
Posted: 09/13/2013 8:46 am EDT  |  Updated: 09/13/2013 9:33 am EDT

Lake Mary, Fla., police chief Steve Bracknell has distanced himself from comments he made in a response to an email from a town resident who was upset that George Zimmerman has not been charged with any crimes following an altercation Monday with his estranged wife and her father.

In a Sept. 10 response to Lake Mary resident Santiago Rodriguez's strongly-worded emails, which called Zimmerman "a ticking time bomb... [and] a Sandy Hook [or] Aurora waiting to happen," Bracknell initially replied "I agree." On Thursday, WTSP reported that the chief walked back his comments about Zimmerman.

"Chief Bracknell distanced himself saying he was 'referring to the fact that [Zimmerman] seems to be involved in incidents' involving firearms," the station reported.

Requests for comment from the chief by The Huffington Post were not immediately returned.
 ::snipping3::
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 13, 2013, 02:01:27 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/florida-police-chief-agrees-george-zimmerman-is-another-sandy-hook-waiting-to-happen/

Florida Police Chief Agrees George Zimmerman is Another ‘Sandy Hook Waiting to Happen’
 6:22 pm, September 12th, 2013

In a series of emails obtained by ThinkProgress, Police Chief Steve Bracknell appears to agree in a series of emails that Zimmerman is a “ticking time bomb” and another “Sandy Hook” or “Aurora” “waiting to happen.”  ::snipping3::

In my opinion, his agreeing to the email comment was irresponsible for a police chief.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Yes, it's irresponsible imo, and possibly the basis for a lawsuit imho.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 13, 2013, 02:55:56 PM
Irresponsible for sure.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on September 13, 2013, 03:03:37 PM
Irresponsible for sure.

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 14, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/14/angela-corey-george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-murder-florida/2763835/
Zimmerman prosecutor takes hit in court of public opinion
September 14, 2013

Angela Corey continues to call George Zimmerman a "murderer." Now, "to quell racial tension," some want her removed from a new case in which a white teen is charged with killing an unarmed black teen.

 ::snipping3::
Before Corey made national news by charging Zimmerman with murder for killing Florida teen Trayvon Martin, the state attorney was no stranger to calculated risks. She had already made a 12-year-old face first-degree murder charges.

She also put a woman in prison for 20 years for firing at, yet missing, an allegedly abusive husband, the prosecutor's office says. Now, a growing number of critics describe her as a desperate prosecutor who regularly overcharges defendants and is more interested in making a name for herself than in seeking justice.

"She had the worst reputation in Florida for overcharging and the worst reputation with professional responsibility," said Alan Dershowitz, a Harvard Law School professor explaining why Corey should not have tried the Zimmerman case. "There are some great prosecutors in Florida and across the country. She's not one of them."

Supporters of Corey say she is a solid attorney whose 32-year career as a prosecutor has led her to understand the law and how to effectively apply it to everyday situations.

Corey was elected in 2008 as the state attorney for the fourth judicial circuit in Jacksonville. But long before she became a household name, her supporters say she became known locally as a passionate advocate for victims.


 ::snipping3::

Still, Dershowitz, one of Corey's most outspoken critics, contends that Corey gives prosecutors a bad name and published half-truths in an effort to convict Zimmerman. He adds that Corey has a reputation for firing her own employees who criticize her, and that in the aftermath of the phone call, a whistle-blower e-mailed him and said Corey was "trying to find something on you."
 ::snipping3::

However, some of Corey's critics claim the state attorney charged Zimmerman and others for personal gain rather than because the case merited a second-degree murder charge.

"She thought it would look great, look how tough I am," said former Florida state attorney Harry Shorstein, who fired Corey when she worked as an assistant state attorney for him. "Very simply, if you follow the law and the facts, there was no question about the verdict."

Shorstein told USA TODAY that he fired Corey in 2006 after a law school intern "complained very, very significantly about Angela Corey."

Corey has said she was fired because she had announced her intention to run for state prosecutor to replace Shorstein.

Meanwhile, Corey has continued to call Zimmerman a "murderer" and has used the opportunity to point to all the other cases she has won.

"George Zimmerman used excessive and deadly force and that's what made it a violation of Florida law," she said.

Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda, an attorney who works for Corey and who argued the Zimmerman case at trial agrees. "We were convinced that Mr. Zimmerman needed to be prosecuted."

Shorstein described the selection of Corey to lead the Zimmerman trial as a mistake and said the prosecution's case was "atrocious."

Dershowitz maintains that Corey overcharged Zimmerman and purposely left out in charging documents that Zimmerman had sustained injuries during a struggle with Trayvon.

Several legal experts during and after the trial say prosecutors had little evidence with which to work. There were no real eyewitnesses, contradictory statements from nearby neighbors, and experts who seemed to support Zimmerman's version of events. Still, some claim Corey and her attorneys did a poor job of executing their case.

 ::snipping3::
Corey's critics have pointed to her 2011 decision to charge Cristian Fernandez, then a 12-year-old, as an adult with first-degree murder in the beating death of his 2-year-old half brother.

Corey says she charged in the manner she did to ensure that Fernandez got enough time in the system to get the help he needed. "The juvenile system is not designed to handle a juvenile murderer," Corey said. "We were going to put him into adult court to seek a middle ground."

A plea deal reached in February placed Fernandez in a juvenile facility until 2018 for lesser charges. Fernandez will be 19 when he is released, though still on probation.

Henry Coxe, Fernandez's defense attorney, says his client was mistreated by Corey's charging.

"He was 12 years old," Coxe said. "He never intended that his brother would be hurt seriously, that his brother would die."

Of the murder charge, Coxe added: "We have never been able to fathom how that happened."

Recently, Corey has come under fire from the Florida Civil Rights Association, which says it aims to advance equal opportunity and diversity.

The association is calling for Corey to be removed from the trial of Michael Dunn, who has been charged with first-degree murder for shooting unarmed, 17-year-old Jordan Davis at a Jacksonville gas station. Davis, who was black, was sitting in a vehicle in November 2012 when Dunn, who is white, fired at the teen after an argument about loud music coming from Davis' car.

The group says a special prosecutor is needed in the Davis case "to quell racial tension" created by Corey and the state attorney office's "failed prosecution" of Zimmerman.

"Given her track record and how she handled the case to begin with, people would be better served if an independent prosecutor was appointed to that case," said Shayan Elahi, a civil rights attorney for the Florida Civil Rights Association.
 ::snipping3::
More...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 14, 2013, 12:17:03 PM
BTW, what is "agreeance"?  Does the author of the article mean "agreement"  Jeesh.   ::MonkeyDevil::


http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/334983/19/Lake-Mary-Police-Chief-Steve-Bracknell-backtracks-after-saying-he-agrees-George-Zimmerman-is-Sandy-Hook-waiting-to-happen
Lake Mary Police Chief Steve Bracknell backtracks after saying he agrees George Zimmerman is "Sandy Hook... waiting to happen"
September 12, 2013

St. Petersburg, FL - Lake Mary Police did not charge George Zimmerman following a confrontation with his estranged wife and father-in-law.

In a 911 call placed on Monday, Shellie Zimmerman can be heard telling the operator that George Zimmerman smashed an iPad and punched her father in the nose.

Lake Mary resident Santiago Rodriguez, upset that police failed to file charges, fired off a strongly worded email - criticizing the department and Zimmerman.

Rodriguez calls Zimmerman a "ticking time bomb" and says he's another "Sandy Hook" waiting to happen... apparently comparing him to someone capable of a mass shooting.

In response to the email dated Sept 10th, 2013, Chief Steve Bracknell said "Your reference to Sandy Hook... I agree."

The emails were published on the website, thinkprogress.org.

When contacted by the site for comment on his initial agreeance, Chief Bracknell distanced himself saying he was "referring to the fact that [Zimmerman] seems to be involved in incidents" involving firearms.
 ::snipping3::

Links to listen to 911 call and read email in article.




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 14, 2013, 12:18:31 PM
BTW, "agreeance" really is a word.  It's just not used much.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 15, 2013, 02:25:16 PM
Just read on fb that Shellie has been arrested in the incident involving George and her and her father a Few days go! The iPad images and camera around the house show that Shellie was the aggressor!
Gain, as they say, George was tried unfairly in the media.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2013, 03:02:51 PM
Just read on fb that Shellie has been arrested in the incident involving George and her and her father a Few days go! The iPad images and camera around the house show that Shellie was the aggressor!
Gain, as they say, George was tried unfairly in the media.

Cookie, I haven't found a reliable media source (I know, it's getting hard to use reliable and media in the same sentence  ::MonkeyDevil:: ) for Shellie's alleged arrest per your post reporting you read it on FB.    Keeping in mind anyone can post anything on FB, it may or may not be true.   :smt102
   That doesn't mean she hasn't been arrested, it just means right now I can't find anything to substantiate that, so it's just a rumor at this point imo.  Let's see what happens.   ::buzzbee3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2013, 03:40:14 PM
FWIW 

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-09-10/news/os-george-zimmerman-fancy-house-20130909_1_shellie-zimmerman-george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin
George and Shellie Zimmerman's house: Worth $240,000 with a pool, spa and fireplace
It's the house where Lake Mary police responded Monday to a report of a domestic dispute between the couple.

September 10, 2013


(http://i.imgur.com/C15ygEz.jpg)
Aerial view of the house where George Zimmermna was arrested… (Total Traffic via Fox 35 )

The house where George and Shellie Zimmerman lived during his trial – and for nearly a year leading up to it – was no trailer in the woods.

It is a two-story, $240,000 home on a cul-de-sac with landscaping, a pool and spa in the backyard and two security cameras trained on its front door.



It’s also less than 10 minutes from the Seminole County criminal courthouse where Zimmerman stood trial on a second-degree murder charge for killing Trayvon Martin and was acquitted in July.

In an interview with ABC News two weeks ago, Shellie Zimmerman described their lives in hiding as “gypsies … We lived in a 20-foot trailer in the woods.”

But that was for a short period of time. On Sept. 5, according to GPS records at the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office, the couple moved for the last time.

It was into the large house not far from the courthouse, according to George Zimmerman’s drivers license records. The home is owned by Shellie Zimmerman’s parents.

The house is at the end of a quiet street of similar homes and is surrounded by woods on three sides.

It is the house where police took Zimmerman into custody Monday after Shellie Zimmerman called police saying her estranged husband had threatened her and her father with a gun, a claim denied by Zimmerman’s lawyer Mark O’Mara.

Zimmerman’s address became public last week after a Lake Mary police officer pulled him over on Rinehart Road and gave him a ticket for driving 60 mph in a 45-mph zone.

According to Shellie Zimmerman’s divorce petition, they separated Aug. 13.

They had lived together in the house until earlier this month. Zimmerman still lives there, O’Mara said.

The Zimmermans paid $1,000 a month rent, according to statements previously posted about his legal-defense fund by defense attorney Mark O’Mara.

The house has more than 2,500 of livable square feet and a market value of $240,000, according to the Seminole County Property Appraiser.

The house was built in 1990, and the backyard is dominated by a two-tier pool and spa with four water jets shaped like lions’ heads. Also in the backyard is a patio with a second-story deck.


Before the Zimmermans moved in, they had hopscotched between extended-stay hotels
trying to find a place that would have them, that would be safe and that was in Seminole County, according to a lawsuit filed against Zimmerman by former bodyguards.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 15, 2013, 03:40:42 PM
Just read on fb that Shellie has been arrested in the incident involving George and her and her father a Few days go! The iPad images and camera around the house show that Shellie was the aggressor!
Gain, as they say, George was tried unfairly in the media.

Cookie, I haven't found a reliable media source (I know, it's getting hard to use reliable and media in the same sentence  ::MonkeyDevil:: ) for Shellie's alleged arrest per your post reporting you read it on FB.    Keeping in mind anyone can post anything on FB, it may or may not be true.   :smt102
   That doesn't mean she hasn't been arrested, it just means right now I can't find anything to substantiate that, so it's just a rumor at this point imo.  Let's see what happens.   ::buzzbee3::

dang it! I hate when the news is not accurate! i can give u the name of the news article. not able to copy/paste myself.
why don't we just delete my post for now cause I do not want to pass on false info! I hate that!
thanks..


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 15, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
was on National Report...probably is fake..
SORRY!!! it looks authentic...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2013, 04:00:25 PM
was on National Report...probably is fake..
SORRY!!! it looks authentic...


It's fake cookie.  "National Report" reminds me of "The Onion".  Satire.  Entertainment.   ::buzzbee3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 15, 2013, 04:13:08 PM
Grrrrrr! I hate that! It only adds confusion and false stories!
Thx Muffers.
I deleted it off my fb page and told the guy who passed I on to me that it was fake. I got it from a guy who is usually pretty savvy.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2013, 04:25:47 PM
Grrrrrr! I hate that! It only adds confusion and false stories!
Thx Muffers.
I deleted it off my fb page and told the guy who passed I on to me that it was fake. I got it from a guy who is usually pretty savvy.

I wouldn't worry about it cookie.  It's annoying, but no real harm done.   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2013, 04:46:19 PM
Grrrrrr! I hate that! It only adds confusion and false stories!
Thx Muffers.
I deleted it off my fb page and told the guy who passed I on to me that it was fake. I got it from a guy who is usually pretty savvy.

I wouldn't worry about it cookie.  It's annoying, but no real harm done.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

 :gaah:  That didn't come out right.  I was commiserating with you, cookie. I hope you didn't take my remark in the wrong way :smt056   I think we've all been taken in by something like this at some time or other.   :smt117  It sure makes us take a second look see, that's for sure.  And nothing is surprising anymore, especially in this case.   JMHO   ::buzzbee3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2013, 04:55:25 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyCool::


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-wftvs-jorge-estevez-wins-orlando-dancing-with-stars-20130914,0,6350983.post
WFTV's Jorge Estevez wins local 'Dancing With the Stars'
By Hal Boedeker
September 14, 2013

Jorge Estevez's hips don't lie, which is another asset for a TV anchor. Estevez of WFTV-Channel 9 won Orlando's version of "Dancing With the Stars" Saturday night at Hard Rock Cafe.
 ::snipping3::
Orlando attorney Mark NeJame won an online popularity vote over the other five competitors, who included Dr. Jan Garavaglia of "Dr. G: Medical Examiner" and attorney Mark O'Mara, who represented George Zimmerman.

O'Mara told WFTV anchor Greg Warmoth, a host for the event, that doing the Zimmerman closing was easier than dancing a fox trot. "I didn't practice that. I had to practice this," O'Mara said of the dancing.


O’Mara placed sixth in the judges’ standings. Ranking behind Estevez were Orlando attorney Diana Tennis, banking executive Barb Scherer, NeJame and Garavaglia, Orange-Osceola chief medical examiner.

Garavaglia, who was celebrating her birthday, gave a dramatic performance on the pasodoble. The judges applauded her passion.

NeJame, an analyst for CNN, displayed some frisky moves on the mambo to surprise the audience. He shook his hips merrily and ripped his shirt open (twice) to execute a belly roll. The judges gave him extra points for flashing the flesh.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 15, 2013, 04:56:46 PM
Grrrrrr! I hate that! It only adds confusion and false stories!
Thx Muffers.
I deleted it off my fb page and told the guy who passed I on to me that it was fake. I got it from a guy who is usually pretty savvy.

I wouldn't worry about it cookie.  It's annoying, but no real harm done.   ::MonkeyWink:: 

 :gaah:  That didn't come out right.  I was commiserating with you, cookie. I hope you didn't take my remark in the wrong way :smt056   I think we've all been taken in by something like this at some time or other.   :smt117  It sure makes us take a second look see, that's for sure.  And nothing is surprising anymore, especially in this case.   JMHO   ::buzzbee3::

No worries.. I knew exactly what u mean...xoxo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: jamcakes on September 17, 2013, 09:00:44 AM
It's sad that George and Shellie are estranged.  All the consequences of that fateful night go on forever.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 17, 2013, 09:27:28 AM
Yes it does go on and on Jamcakes.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 20, 2013, 09:14:43 AM

://www.wesh.com/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/lake-mary-police-ask-secret-service-to-assist-with-zimmerman-dispute/-/14266478/22031574/-/foccc7z/-/index.html#ixzz2fRFW0iPP

Lake Mary police ask Secret Service to assist with Zimmerman dispute

Published  9:23 PM EDT Sep 19, 2013                           

Secret Service called on for Zimmerman dispute

LAKE MARY, Fla. —Lake Mary Police Department officers are asking the Secret Service's help to retrieve evidence in the domestic battery investigation involving George and Shellie Zimmerman.

 George Zimmerman's estranged wife, Shellie Zimmerman, wants to move on quietly from the domestic dispute that brought a media firestorm to her doorstep earlier this week, according to her attorney.
More

Lake Mary's police chief would not release the name of the agency involved but said federal agents were involved.

"It's worth it to get to the truth in this or any investigation," Chief Steve Bracknell said.

The investigation has been at a standstill since George Zimmerman allegedly damaged the iPad his wife was using to record the incident last week.

The police were called to a Lake Mary home after Shellie Zimmerman said her husband threatened her and her family.

An attorney for Shellie Zimmerman recently said she wants a quiet end to the marriage




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 20, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
://www.wesh.com/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/lake-mary-police-ask-secret-service-to-assist-with-zimmerman-dispute/-/14266478/22031574/-/foccc7z/-/index.html#ixzz2fRFW0iPP
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 11:01:00 AM

://www.wesh.com/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/lake-mary-police-ask-secret-service-to-assist-with-zimmerman-dispute/-/14266478/22031574/-/foccc7z/-/index.html#ixzz2fRFW0iPP

Lake Mary police ask Secret Service to assist with Zimmerman dispute

Published  9:23 PM EDT Sep 19, 2013                           

Secret Service called on for Zimmerman dispute

LAKE MARY, Fla. —Lake Mary Police Department officers are asking the Secret Service's help to retrieve evidence in the domestic battery investigation involving George and Shellie Zimmerman.

 George Zimmerman's estranged wife, Shellie Zimmerman, wants to move on quietly from the domestic dispute that brought a media firestorm to her doorstep earlier this week, according to her attorney.
More

Lake Mary's police chief would not release the name of the agency involved but said federal agents were involved.

"It's worth it to get to the truth in this or any investigation," Chief Steve Bracknell said.

The investigation has been at a standstill since George Zimmerman allegedly damaged the iPad his wife was using to record the incident last week.

The police were called to a Lake Mary home after Shellie Zimmerman said her husband threatened her and her family.

An attorney for Shellie Zimmerman recently said she wants a quiet end to the marriage




Hi Monkeys!


Flamom  "teddybear2::

What information can the SS give?  Do you think the SS can retrieve data from the broken IPad?  ::MonkeyEek::
How often is the SS called in for assistance?

Thank-you


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 11:05:17 AM
LAKE MARY -- 
Police are now turning to agencies at multiple levels to try to extract video from Shellie Zimmerman's iPad, including the Secret Service.
Last Updated: Thursday, September 19, 2013, 5:10 PM
(http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/9/19/lake_mary_seeking_he/_jcr_content/contentpar/articleBody/image.img.jpg/1379625026112.jpg)





http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/9/19/lake_mary_seeking_he.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 20, 2013, 01:15:07 PM
 ::HelloKitty::
seahorse, I have no clue how or if any video can be extracted. I think the Zimms should stay far away from each other. This is only a lull. There will be more from GZ.
It seems they are both full of it..


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 01:54:11 PM
::HelloKitty::
seahorse, I have no clue how or if any video can be extracted. I think the Zimms should stay far away from each other. This is only a lull. There will be more from GZ.
It seems they are both full of it..

I agree :) Flamom, both seem a little full of it.
His better judgement, is not very sound, in my opinion.  He should have never have flaunted his new chick, in front to his long-suffering wife.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Especially a skinny girlfriend.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 20, 2013, 02:12:36 PM
I thought that I read that George did not know that Shellie would be at he home when he dropped by?
Still, he needs to concentrate on cleaning up his life and not chasing women...jmo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 02:28:32 PM
http://www.coloradonewsday.com/national/16902-samantha-scheibe-george-zimmerman-s-blonde-babe.html


 ::MonkeyDevil:: I could not fit his GF on the computer  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 02:32:07 PM
I thought that I read that George did not know that Shellie would be at he home when he dropped by?
Still, he needs to concentrate on cleaning up his life and not chasing women...jmo

Cookie  "teddybear2::

Did he drop by, or did she drop by?  It is not clear.  This article seems to suggest that the GF was in the house.

http://www.coloradonewsday.com/national/16902-samantha-scheibe-george-zimmerman-s-blonde-babe.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 20, 2013, 02:42:03 PM
I thought that I read that George did not know that Shellie would be at he home when he dropped by?
Still, he needs to concentrate on cleaning up his life and not chasing women...jmo

Cookie  "teddybear2::

Did he drop by, or did she drop by?  It is not clear.  This article seems to suggest that the GF was in the house.

http://www.coloradonewsday.com/national/16902-samantha-scheibe-george-zimmerman-s-blonde-babe.html

Cookie, I got it!  The mother of the blonde who may have been in the house.  The GF was with GZ, in the vehicle.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 20, 2013, 08:26:43 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 20, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/09/18/angela-corey-under-continuing-investigation/

Angela Corey Under Continuing Investigation….
Posted on September 18, 2013

OCALA, Fla., September 17, 2013 — George Zimmerman’s highly controversial prosecutor, Angela Corey, is now under state investigation for firing Ben Kruidbos, the Jacksonville Times-Union reports.

“Kruidbos received a letter from the Florida Commission on Ethics earlier this week saying the investigation was occurring,” the T-U’s Larry Hannan wrote last week. “Investigator Specialist Kathleen Mann, who sent the letter, declined to comment on the investigation when contacted by the Times-Union on Friday.”
 ::snipping3::
   


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 20, 2013, 09:33:35 PM
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/conscience-realist/2013/sep/19/tcth-set-receive-files-angela-coreys-prosecution-z/

TCTH set to receive files on Angela Corey's prosecution of Zimmerman
Thursday, September 19, 2013

OCALA, Fla., September 19, 2013 — The Conservative Tree House, a political blog which detailedly reported on the Trayvon Martin shooting’s aftermath, is now due to receive documents specified in a Freedom of Information Act Request.

These documents pertain to how the office of Florida State Attorney Angela Corey and her team handled the prosecution of George Zimmerman. Last week, The Jacksonville Times-Union revealed that Corey is under state investigation for allegedly illegal actions in firing her office’s information technology director, Ben Kruidbos.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 21, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
::MonkeyEek::



 ::MonkeyHaHa::

TMZ explains...

http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/10/george-zimmerman-fight-new-girlfriend-estranged-wife-shellie-dad-911/

   ::CowboySmiley::  one detail, (I believe) the woman in the house was the (GF's) momma. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 21, 2013, 05:20:01 PM
::MonkeyEek::



 ::MonkeyHaHa::

TMZ explains...

http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/10/george-zimmerman-fight-new-girlfriend-estranged-wife-shellie-dad-911/

   ::CowboySmiley::  one detail, (I believe) the woman in the house was the (GF's) momma. 


Thx.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 23, 2013, 08:22:17 PM
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/george-zimmerman-still-missing-says-wifes-attorney

George Zimmerman still missing, says wife's attorney
Posted: 09/23/2013
Last Updated: 1 hour and 40 minutes ago

George Zimmerman is nowhere to be found, according to his estranged wife's attorney.

Shellie Zimmerman is trying to divorce the man who in July was acquitted in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, but can't locate Zimmerman to serve him with legal documents.

Zimmerman's disappearance comes two weeks after police responded to a "domestic altercation" at a Florida home owned by his father-in-law, David Bryant Dean.

Shellie Zimmerman's attorney, Kelly Sims, told CNN that he isn't shocked by Zimmerman's disappearance under the circumstances.

"We don't know where he is, but that's neither surprising or unusual. I'm sure when the time is right we will serve him, and there is no indication that Mr. Zimmerman is actively avoiding same. A little space and time between the couple just makes sense," said Sims.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 24, 2013, 11:20:19 AM
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/george-zimmerman-still-missing-says-wifes-attorney

George Zimmerman still missing, says wife's attorney
Posted: 09/23/2013
Last Updated: 1 hour and 40 minutes ago

George Zimmerman is nowhere to be found, according to his estranged wife's attorney.

Shellie Zimmerman is trying to divorce the man who in July was acquitted in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, but can't locate Zimmerman to serve him with legal documents.

Zimmerman's disappearance comes two weeks after police responded to a "domestic altercation" at a Florida home owned by his father-in-law, David Bryant Dean.

Shellie Zimmerman's attorney, Kelly Sims, told CNN that he isn't shocked by Zimmerman's disappearance under the circumstances.

"We don't know where he is, but that's neither surprising or unusual. I'm sure when the time is right we will serve him, and there is no indication that Mr. Zimmerman is actively avoiding same. A little space and time between the couple just makes sense," said Sims.
 ::snipping3::



Hi Monkeys -Grace-land "teddybear2::


GZ has a bodyguard.  Why not call the bodyguard and ask where is Georgie? 

LE must know the name of the Bodyguard - he was with GZ, during the domestic dust-up.  ::CowboySmiley::

The characters at the dust-up: the blonde, the blondes mom, GZ, Bodyguard and Mrs.Z.   



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 26, 2013, 07:47:17 AM
http://www.wesh.com/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/shellie-zimmerman-to-appear-on-today-show-this-morning/-/14266478/22128858/-/23qxpaz/-/index.html
Shellie Zimmerman to appear on 'Today Show' this mornin
 UPDATED 7:08 AM EDT Sep 26, 2013

George Zimmerman's wife, Shellie Zimmerman, will speak about her life and estranged husband live on the 'Today Show' on WESH 2 Thursday morning.

It will be her first interview since their domestic dispute earlier this month.

Earlier this month, Shellie Zimmerman called 911 claiming her husband was getting violent with her father
She recorded the argument on her iPad. Her attorney claims George Zimmerman smashed the device in anger.
Police have tried recovering that video but say there's only a 5 percent chance they can get the footage off the damaged iPad.
Shellie Zimmerman has filed for divorce calling George Zimmerman "selfish."
She says ever since he was acquitted of second-degree murder, he's been acting differently and feels invincible.


This woman has no shame.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 26, 2013, 09:36:40 AM

Thank-you Fla-mom for the info. ::MonkeyHeart::

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1468070.1380199103!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/zimmerman27n-3-web.jpg)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/estranged-wife-george-zimmerman-doubtful-husband-innocence-trayvon-martin-killing-article-1.1468073

Estranged wife of George Zimmerman says she’s doubtful of husband’s innocence in Trayvon Martin killing
By Joe Kemp / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Thursday, September 26, 2013, 8:45

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  GZ is pretty stupid to make this women mad, IMO.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 26, 2013, 10:14:03 AM
 A woman scorned. She appears to be vindictive now... Move on Shellie.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 26, 2013, 12:33:32 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/329361/4/George-Zimmerman-pulled-over-in-Brevard-County

George Zimmerman pulled over in Brevard County
11:16 AM, Sep 26, 2013

BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. - George Zimmerman has been pulled over again by Central Florida law enforcement.

He was issued a warning for having too much tint on the windows of his 2008 Honda, and for improper display of the vehicle's license plate, which had a tag cover.

Zimmerman told the FHP trooper he had the windows tinted because he's been receiving death threats, Montes said
 ::snipping3::
Zimmerman's Aug. 19 warning does not require him to pay a fine or to change the tint. It is considered a courtesy warning, not a traffic infraction, Montes said.
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on September 26, 2013, 01:55:48 PM
Not a surprise he was pulled over again....  ::brandimonkeycop::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 26, 2013, 02:04:14 PM
I think George needs to get over himself. Just sayin...this death threat crappola is only gonna go so far.... ::MonkeyShovel::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 27, 2013, 12:41:06 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-shellie-zimmerman-today-show-20130926,0,1050866.story

'He just kind of treated me like I was disposable,' Shellie Zimmerman says on 'Today Show'
8:08 a.m. EDT, September 26, 2013

 ::snipping3::
She told Matt Lauer that she didn't see a gun but felt threatened after George Zimmerman kept gesturing toward a holster on his hip and saying "step closer."

"I absolutely stand by my story," Shellie Zimmerman said. "He had a look in his eyes I've never seen before."

Despite standing by her story, Shellie Zimmerman said she didn't press charges because police made it very clear to her that if she did they would all be going to jail that day but she would be the only one staying in jail.

That's because Shellie Zimmerman is serving a year of probation after taking a plea deal in a perjury case.

Her perjury has lead to a "credibility issue" with the public, she told Lauer.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 27, 2013, 12:43:50 AM
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/300869-george-zimmerman-police-are-back-at-zimmerman-home/

George Zimmerman: Police Are Back at Zimmerman Home on Sept. 26, Reports Say
By Zachary Stieber, Epoch Times | September 26, 2013
Last Updated: September 27, 2013 12:07 am

Police are back at the Zimmerman home in Lake Mary, Florida on Thursday night, it was reported.

About three weeks after police arrived at the home in Lake Mary, Florida–where Shellie Zimmerman’s parents reside, and where Shellie and George were staying for a time–police are back, reported Martha Sugalski of WESH-TV.

“Police back at Zimmerman home,” she tweeted at 11:06 p.m.

Mike Sokol, an assignment editor at WPBF, confirmed the situation.

Seni Tienabeso, a reporter with ABC, said that police went to the home because of a possible landlord and tenant dispute with the mother-in-law, and allegations of theft.

“No arrests,” she tweeted.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 27, 2013, 11:17:38 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-shellie-mother-20130927,0,3415713.story

Police called to house George Zimmerman rented
September 27, 2013

The same day Shellie Zimmerman went on national TV to say her husband snubbed her after he was acquitted of murdering 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, Lake Mary police returned to the house the couple once shared to investigate a reported theft.

Officer Zach Hudson late Thursday said Shellie Zimmerman's mother, Machelle Dean, who with her husband owns the home on Sprucewood Road, reported a theft.

There were no signs of a break-in, and police characterized the incident as a landlord-tenant dispute. Hudson said he didn't know what was reported stolen.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 27, 2013, 04:42:58 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/exclusive-theft-reported-at-shellie-zimmermans-parents-home/-/1637132/22146496/-/ykojolz/-/index.html

Exclusive: Theft reported at Shellie Zimmerman's parents' home
Published On: Sep 26 2013 11:28:18 PM EDT   Updated On: Sep 27 2013 02:39:22 PM EDT

LAKE MARY, Fla. - 
Lake Mary Police tell Local 6 they were called out to the home where George and Shellie Zimmerman once lived for a report of theft and damage on Thursday.

Police were called out to the home by a 911 call to 300 Sprucewood Road by Machelle Dean, the mother of Shellie Zimmerman. Machelle and her husband David own the home.

"We have a complaint that there are some items missing from 300 Sprucewood," said Lake Mary police spokesman Zach Hudson.

George Zimmerman had lived in the home with Shellie over the last year. Hudson said George was supposed to be vacated from the rental home by yesterday. When the Deans inspected the home, they found furniture and a television gone and unknown damage to the interior of the home.

"There was some damage to the house. Who committed that damage, I don't know. Was it there before hand, I don't know," Hudson said. "We're trying to figure out exactly what we have here."

Hudson said they are now in the process of interviewing all of the parties involved in this claim, including the Deans, Shellie and George Zimmerman.

The home is the same home where Lake Mary police were called out to earlier in September after an altercation broke out between George and Shellie.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 27, 2013, 04:46:34 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1309/26/ddhln.01.html

DR. DREW

Was Mom Judge & Jury?; Shellie Said What?
Aired September 26, 2013 - 21:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARK EIGLARSH, GUEST HOST (voice-over): Tonight, outrage, a rapist walks free just hours ago after serving a 30-day sentence. Is that justice?

Plus, George Zimmerman`s wife said what? The human lie detector is here to read between the lines.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 28, 2013, 10:13:02 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57605025-504083/george-zimmerman-update-theft-reported-at-shellie-zimmermans-parents-home-in-fla/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on September 28, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/27/george-zimmerman-mother-in-law-theft-police-report-divorce/

Will TMZ gets a hold of the theft report, if one exists?

Can Shellie can have her divorce papers served to TZ?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: kcrn on September 28, 2013, 03:45:05 PM
A woman scorned. She appears to be vindictive now... Move on Shellie.
I agree cookie. I do appreciate the fact tho that she even said she didnt think it was racially motivated. That has really been my only irritation with this case. I think hes an idiot that thought he was a cop but i dont believe the race crap should have ever been the center of this case.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: jamcakes on September 28, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
Geeze, is the news that slow that they have to report on marital/divorce issues amongst the Zimmermans?  Who cares?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on September 28, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
A woman scorned. She appears to be vindictive now... Move on Shellie.
I agree cookie. I do appreciate the fact tho that she even said she didnt think it was racially motivated. That has really been my only irritation with this case. I think hes an idiot that thought he was a cop but i dont believe the race crap should have ever been the center of this case.


Agree!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 30, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/303836-trayvon-martin-investigation-is-ongoing-says-ag-eric-holder/

Trayvon Martin Investigation is ‘Ongoing,’ Says AG Eric Holder
September 30, 2013
Last Updated: September 30, 2013 1:37 pm

The investigation into any civil rights crimes in the Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman case is “ongoing,” said U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday.

Holder, speaking to reporters, said that the Department of Justice will release information on the case as soon as possible.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on October 01, 2013, 03:28:31 PM
TM's parents are on the Katie C. show today. It's the same "My son was murdered because of his race".

And Ben Crump, I believe is there as well.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on October 01, 2013, 10:15:48 PM
TM's parents are on the Katie C. show today. It's the same "My son was murdered because of his race".

And Ben Crump, I believe is there as well.



Oh dear Lord!  Yep, the Lord...is who they need!  Are you flippin' kidding me?  Go mourn your son and get off tv...it wasn't race...why do YOU want it to be a race issue?  EXACTLY...big bucks!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cookie on October 02, 2013, 11:39:21 AM
They have to get tack in the limelight. Funds must be drying up


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 03, 2013, 09:31:29 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-10-03/story/response-state-attorney-corey-lawsuit-fired-employee-doesnt-have-right

Response to State Attorney Corey lawsuit: Fired employee doesn't have right to sue her
Posted: October 3, 2013 - 6:41pm

Lawyers for State Attorney Angela Corey say she has “sovereign immunity” and are asking a judge to throw out a lawsuit filed against her in the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case.

Ben Kruidbos, her former information technology director, was fired in June after he testified that prosecutors did not turn over all information to Zimmerman’s defense team in the shooting death of the 17-year-old. Kruidbos said he was a whistleblower and under the law cannot be fired.

The lawsuit says Kruidbos testified in response to a subpoena, and the firing was retaliation for his testimony. He is asking for $5 million in damages and his job back.

In court papers filed this week, Corey’s attorneys say the state attorney cannot be sued because she has sovereign immunity as an elected official.

According to Black’s Law Dictionary, sovereign immunity is the legal doctrine that says the government cannot be sued without its consent. The motion says Corey, a government official, does not consent.

“I think it’s an absurd assertion that she’s above the law,” said attorney Wesley White, who is representing Kruidbos.

Jackelyn Barnard, spokeswoman for Corey, did not respond to a phone call or email for comment.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on October 09, 2013, 06:27:13 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-focus-of-anderson-cooper-special-20131009,0,4075722.post
George Zimmerman focus of Anderson Cooper special
October 9, 2013

George Zimmerman may be in for the satirical treatment from "South Park." The Comedy Central series offers an episode called "World War Zimmerman" at 10 p.m. Wednesday (tonight).

But Zimmerman is getting the serious treatment, too. Anderson Cooper will present "Tragedy on Trial: The George Zimmerman Story" at 10 p.m. Sunday. The program is presented under the banner "Anderson Cooper Special Report."
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on October 10, 2013, 09:21:21 AM
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/10/07/parents-upset-after-trayvon-martin-day-planned-during-local-homecoming-week/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on October 23, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/10/07/parents-upset-after-trayvon-martin-day-planned-during-local-homecoming-week/



wonder how "bucco hat" day went?
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 23, 2013, 09:38:03 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/seminole/os-george-zimmerman-not-a-thief-20131023,0,2069517.story

Lake Mary cops: We're not charging George Zimmerman with stealing from his mother-in-law
5:46 p.m. EDT, October 23, 2013

Lake Mary police announced Wednesday that they are not going to charge George Zimmerman with stealing a king-sized bed, antique chair and several other pieces of furniture from his mother-in-law's rental house where he lived for several months.

Department spokesman Officer Zach Hudson characterized the matter as "a civil dispute".
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 23, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/23/no-criminal-charges-will-be-filed-against-george-zimmerman-in-dispute-with-wife/

No criminal charges will be filed against George Zimmerman in dispute with wife
Published October 23, 2013

SANFORD, Fla. –  A police spokesman says no criminal charges will be filed against George Zimmerman in a dispute last month with his estranged wife.

Lake Mary Officer Zach Hudson said Wednesday that investigators had decided the dispute didn't rise to a criminal level.

The dispute last month came just days after Shellie Zimmerman filed divorce papers.
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Post by: Amys Sister on October 29, 2013, 11:35:10 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/29/21231481-trayvon-martins-mom-stand-your-ground-laws-open-to-abuse?lite

Trayvon Martin's mom: Stand your ground laws 'open to abuse'
By Elizabeth Chuck, Staff Writer, NBC News October 29, 2013

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The mother of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed teen shot to death in 2012, is appearing before a Senate panel Tuesday to demand that states make their "stand your ground" self-defense laws clearer.

"By being unclear in when and how it is applied, stand your ground in its current form is far to open to abuse," Sybrina Fulton will say, according to prepared testimony for the Senate Judiciary Committee, the Associated Press reported.

Stand-your-ground laws are on the books in at least 22 states and change the legal definition of self-defense for citizens who feel they are being confronted with deadly force or imminent danger, canceling their duty to retreat. But Fulton is arguing at the 10 a.m. hearing that the Feb. 26, 2012, shooting of her 17-year-old son and the acquittal of George Zimmerman over the summer shows that the laws are confusing.

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Stand your ground laws are sometimes referred to as "Shoot First" laws by detractors. Florida had the first one, in 2005. They were part of the public discussion around the Zimmerman trial; although the legal team arguing on behalf of Zimmerman did not ask for an immunity hearing under the law, the instructions given to the jury borrowed language from the statute.

Normally, a citizen has a duty to retreat when confronted with what they perceive to be deadly force. The stand your ground doctrine mostly removes that, meaning citizens who feel threatened are no longer required to try to quell a situation first before having the right to use deadly force in self-defense.

Gun rights groups, like the National Rifle Association, argue stand your ground laws are about protecting the right to self-defense.

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Post by: grace-land on October 29, 2013, 10:30:56 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/29/ted-cruz-explains-to-trayvon-martins-mother-how-stand-your-ground-laws-help-protect-the-black-community-at-senate-hearing/

Ted Cruz Explains to Trayvon Martin’s Mother How ‘Stand Your Ground’ Laws Help Protect the Black Community
Oct. 29, 2013 6:17pm

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) came face-to-face with Sybrina Fulton, the mother of Trayvon Martin, on Capitol Hill during a Tuesday hearing on “Stand Your Ground” laws. After offering his condolences to Fulton, Cruz told the mother that the self-defense laws are not racist because they help blacks as much as whites, if not more.

Cruz also explained that, despite some efforts to exploit Martin’s death, George Zimmerman’s defense team never used Stand Your Ground laws as a defense in the murder trial.

“We know that some in our political process have a desire to exploit that tragic, violent incident for agendas that have nothing to do with that young man who lost his life. We have seen efforts to undermine the verdict of the jury and, more broadly, to inflame racial tensions that I think are sad and irresponsible,” the Texas senator added.

Cruz went on to refute the “remarkable” allegation that Stand Your Ground laws do not protect black communities.

“I think that’s a remarkable statement on many, many fronts, including the fact that a great many African-Americans find themselves victims of violent crime, and have asserted this defense to defend themselves, defend their families, defend their children,” he explained.

The assertion is even more “remarkable,” Cruz said, when you consider that in 2004, “a state senator in Illinois by the name of Barack Obama co-sponsored an expansion of Illinois’ law providing civil immunity for those who use justifiable force to defend themselves.”
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 29, 2013, 10:38:28 PM
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/stand-your-ground-opponents-mangle-law-and-trayvon-facts-at-senate-hearing/

“Stand Your Ground” opponents mangle law and Trayvon facts at Senate Hearing
Posted by Andrew Branca      Tuesday, October 29, 2013 at 5:46pm

This morning Democratic Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois held a US Senate hearing nominally on the subject of Stand Your Ground laws.

Here I’ll just share an overview of the testimony, along with my own general observations. (More detailed posts will likely follow.)

US Senate hearing: “Stand Your Ground: Civil rights and Public Safety Implications of the Expanded Use of Deadly Force”

My first general observation is that the anti-SYG folks were, as experience would suggest, big on emotion and small on actual facts, law, or data.

One of the anti-SYG witnesses, Professor Sullivan from Harvard Law School, did raise some actual data–but when these were utterly destroyed by the later testimony of Dr. John Lott and Elliot Shapiro of CATA, Professor Sullivan was swift to discount the use of data (which he himself had introduced into the testimony) and instead focus on the “real people” behind the data. In sharp contrast, the testimony of the pro-SYG speakers was focused and direct.

Second, the anti-SYG folks persistently conflated the legal concept of Stand Your Ground with utterly discrete legal concepts, such as presumptions of reasonableness and civil/criminal immunity.

When this is done by people without legal training or experience, such as Sabrina Fulton, one can of course accept it as an unknowing error. When it is persistently done by a Harvard Law Professor and a head of an (allegedly) leading association of State Prosecutors, one can only wonder at either their actual intent or their underlying intelligence.

Indeed, their misstatements of the law were so egregious that at one point Dr. Lott was obliged to read aloud from the actual Florida statute they had badly mischaracterized, to which they naturally had no substantive response. In that case they were claiming that even criminal aggressors could claim Stand Your Ground privilege under Florida law, a claim that the plain language of the statute read by Dr. Lott clearly destroys.

In any case, it is clear that their effort is intended to be a broad attack on all three fronts — likely with immunity being the true target, as it represents the largest pot of gold for their supporters — rather than any focused concern on Stand Your Ground, per se.

Finally, the bottom line is I expect this hearing, and any similar subsequent efforts, to be little more than political theater, with no substantive changes resulting to the law of self-defense.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 29, 2013, 10:58:17 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/27/ben-crump-flooded-with-civil-rights-cases-after-trayvon/3182651/

Ben Crump flooded with civil rights cases after Trayvon
Yamiche Alcindor, USA TODAY 9:38 p.m. EDT October 27, 2013

Benjamin Crump quickly lists his latest clients: There's the Pittsburgh teenager paralyzed by police bullets. The family of the Florida man who suffocated under a police cruiser. The California woman who lost consciousness while handcuffed in the back of a police car and died at a hospital soon after.

The common theme: a black person whose rights allegedly were violated by police. It's an area of law that has people from all over the country calling Crump, a Tallahassee attorney made famous by representing the parents of Trayvon Martin.

Headlines now herald Crump's cases, and the people he represents become subjects of national media attention. Some caution against high-profile attorneys like Crump who may grandstand and complicate cases. But others have started comparing Crump to past legal stars.
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However, Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, paints a different portrait of Crimp. O'Mara questioned Crump's ethics, pointing to claims he made against Zimmerman and the circumstances surrounding Trayvon's shooting.

"A lot of what he said was happening was all personal opinion or misinterpretation of the facts," O'Mara said. "That is very frustrating to me because I feel as lawyers we are bound by ethical constraints."

O'Mara added that he would be happy to see Crump zealously representing "the downtrodden" but hopes Crump is adhering to the ethics of the bar.
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Crump, 44, and his legal partner, Daryl Parks,started their firm in 1995 shortly after graduating from law school at Florida State University.

The Parks & Crump Law Firm handles mostly cases of personal injury, wrongful death and medical malpractice, but civil rights cases have flooded the office since Crump began holding strongly worded press conference calling for the arrest of Zimmerman.
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For every 50 calls, he said, at least one is worth taking. He weighs the financial costs of taking a case and the likelihood that a civil suit can be won. Like most plaintiff's lawyers, he gets paid only if his clients win.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 29, 2013, 11:10:56 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/george-zimmerman-civil-rights-hero/

George Zimmerman, civil-rights hero?
Stunning exposé reveals efforts to seek justice for black man
Published: 12 hours ago

George Zimmerman a civil-rights hero?

That’s one of the eye-openers in Jack Cashill’s new book “If I Had a Son: Race, Guns, and the Railroading of George Zimmerman,” published Tuesday by WND Books.

It was Zimmerman, acquitted by a jury in July of second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, who led the charge to bring to justice for a black man assaulted by a white teenager in 2011.
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Zimmerman, he said, worked with “the local NAACP and Natalie Jackson – who would become part of Team Trayvon – to seek justice for Ware, and they all betrayed him after the incident with Trayvon Martin, because it was in their best interest to pretend they didn’t know who he was.”

The story of Zimmerman’s crusade has largely gone unreported, through mainstream media indifference and the labeling of anyone who mentions it as “racist,” said Cashill.

“Robert Zimmerman tried to get out this story, but Natalie Jackson said that he was playing the ‘race card’ (calling Zimmerman a racist), and the mainstream media didn’t want to know this side of Zimmerman, because they had their narrative and they didn’t want any information to get out that contradicted it,” Cashill wrote.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 29, 2013, 11:16:48 PM
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/10/jack_cashills_if_i_had_a_son.html

October 29, 2013
Jack Cashill's If I Had a Son

The definitive account of the conspiracy to send George Zimmerman to prison for the self-defense shooting of Trayvon Martin is reaching bookstores today. Jack Cashill's If I had a Son: Race, Guns, and the Railroading of George Zimmerman is a must-read for anyone interested in race, justice and the corruption of the American mass media. You may think you know everything you need to know about the case, if you followed it as avidly as many American Thinker readers (and editors) did. But you would be wrong. This masterful and very readable narrative not only assembles and places into context the reported facts, it explains why the case developed as it did.

At the heart of the effort to inject race into a case that was self-evidently a matter of self defense to the police and prosecutors who in initially investigated is what Cashill labels the Black Grievance Industry, or BGI. Benjamin Crump, a black Tallahhassee attorney who had gained fame and fortune suing on behalf of blacks claiming racial victimization was brought in early by Tracy Martin, Trayvon's father, through personal contacts. Crump assembled what Cashill termed "Team Trayvon," including Sanford attorney Natalie Jackson and an Orlando-based media strategist, Ryan Julison. They served as chief strategists, manufacturing memes. They were aided and abetted by key media outlets, from the Orlando Sentinel, which at first reported in a straightforward manner for a local readership and then ran into the BGI, to The New York Times and especially ABC News, which assisted the BGI and Team Trayvon in manufacturing a false narrative, betraying both their journalistic responsibilities and the cause of justice. Inevitably, Al Sharpton quickly leapt into the fray, followed by Jesse Jackson, fearful of being cut out.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 31, 2013, 05:37:24 PM
Front page of SM

http://scaredmonkeys.com/

Sanford, FL To Ban Neighborhood Watch From Carrying Guns in the Wake of George Zimmerman Being Found Not Guilty in Death of Trayvon Martin


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 05, 2013, 07:28:15 PM
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/11/04/holder-appears-to-be-backing-away-from-civil-rights-charges-against-zimmerman/

Holder Appears to be Backing Away from Civil Rights Charges Against Zimmerman
November 4, 2013 - 2:52 pm

Attorney General Eric Holder’s tone today at a press conference indicated that the Justice Department may be inching away from filing any criminal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman.

Holder agreed to look at the case in April. Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin in February 2012 and was acquitted of second-degree murder in July.

Taking a wide range of questions from reporters today, Holder was asked what the timeframe is for an announcement or a decision on the case.

“Mr. Attorney General, why haven’t federal charges been filed against George Zimmerman yet?” a reporter asked.

“Well, the case of George Zimmerman and what happens there, I mean, I think, in substantial part was resolved in the case that was tried,” Holder responded. “The investigation or the inquiry, the review that we are doing is still under way. I’m not sure exactly how much longer that will take, but we will, when we get to a point where we are able to make a determination, we’ve tried to construct the case in such a way that we’ll be able to share as much information, not just make an announcement, but to share as much information as we can with regard to that — that determination.”
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Post by: grace-land on November 05, 2013, 07:32:56 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/ccriminal-civil-rights-charges-unlikely-george-zim/nbhJD/

Posted: 3:28 p.m. Monday, Nov. 4, 2013
Criminal civil rights charges unlikely for George Zimmerman

WASHINGTON —
The head of the Department of Justice said he hasn't officially decided whether to file criminal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman, but the tone in his answers seemed to indicate it wouldn't happen, according to Channel 9's Greg Warmoth.

Attorney General Eric Holder said he's not sure how much longer the department will review the case after civil rights groups called for hate crime charges against Zimmerman, who fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford last year.
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But he had cautioned in subsequent remarks that the DOJ faces a "very high barrier" when seeking to bring federal criminal charges in such cases.

It appears that may be the case here, Warmoth said.



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Post by: grace-land on November 05, 2013, 08:42:15 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-neighborhood-watch-guns-zimmerman-20131105,0,1243831.story

Sanford police chief clarifies gun rules for Neighborhood Watch volunteers
3:46 p.m. EST, November 5, 2013

Sanford Police Chief Cecil Smith on Tuesday clarified his position on whether Neighborhood Watch volunteers in his city will be allowed to carry firearms, blaming the confusion on his own faulty language.

Neighborhood Watch volunteers won't be banned from carrying handguns, but participants of a different program, Citizens on Patrol, will be, he said.

When Smith was hired as chief seven months ago, he said he found Neighborhood Watch in disarray with various groups operating with their own set of rules and no accountability.

Part of the effort to revamp both of Sanford's community programs is to distinguish Neighborhood Watch from Citizens on Patrol and set policies that would absolve police of any liability should volunteers use a gun as part of their duties.
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Post by: grace-land on November 07, 2013, 11:30:21 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/07/3738365/lawmakers-defeat-bill-to-repeal.html

Posted on Thursday, 11.07.13
Lawmakers defeat bill to repeal Stand Your Ground; expand immunity in warning shot cases

TALLAHASSEE --  A panel of state lawmakers on Thursday soundly rejected a proposal to repeal the Stand Your Ground self-defense law, but enthusiastically approved a pitch to expand Stand Your Ground immunity to people who fire a warning shot.

The votes took place at a highly anticipated hearing that lasted five hours before the House Criminal Justice Subcommittee. Nearly 300 people attended, and scores signed up to give their opinion on the controversial law.
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Post by: grace-land on November 07, 2013, 11:37:33 PM
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/courts/zimmerman-defense-team-offers-insights-to-panel-at-ub-sponsored-mock-trial-event-20131107

Zimmerman defense team offers insights to panel at UB-sponsored mock trial event
on November 7, 2013 - 7:41 PM

Two lawyers who represented defendant George Zimmerman in the high-profile Trayvon Martin murder trial talked Thursday about their trial techniques and strategies that helped lead to an acquittal.

Attorneys Mark O’Mara, who was Zimmerman’s lead counsel, and Don West, a 1980 graduate of the University at Buffalo Law School, discussed the Florida case before about 250 law students at a panel discussion as part of the 10th annual Buffalo Niagara Trial Competition.

West may be best remembered for the knock-knock joke that fell flat with jurors during his opening statement. But O’Mara credited West for his work in persuading the judge not to allow the jury to consider a lesser murder charge.

A key moment came near the end of the trial when both sides suggested what the judge should include in her instructions to jurors before deliberations. Prosecutors for the first time suggested that the judge allow jurors to consider the less serious charges of manslaughter and third-degree murder based on child abuse, arguing that since Trayvon was 17 when Zimmerman fatally shot him during a confrontation, he was a minor, or child.

“It was a brilliant strategy to give the jury something to hang their hat on,” offering jurors a compromise verdict if they couldn’t convict Zimmerman of murder, West said.

“It was the ultimate in sandbagging,” he said of the last-minute prosecution strategy in the case.

West argued against it, and “the court ultimately did the right thing” in rejecting it, he said.

“That saved the case,” West said.

“We wanted to avoid a compromise verdict,” O’Mara said.

O’Mara recalled West’s outrage at the prosecution’s move.

“Don came as close as you can to contempt without being thrown in jail,” he said.
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Post by: grace-land on November 10, 2013, 06:16:50 PM
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/womans_20_year_sentence_for_wa.html

Woman's 20 year sentence for warning shot overturned, same state attorney as in George Zimmerman case
on November 10, 2013 at 1:15 AM, updated November 10, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Marissa Alexander, a mother of three children, was convicted in less than 12 minutes by a jury and sentences to 20 years in prison for firing a warning shot near her husband as he was reportedly abusing her, per Yahoo.

She testified that she chose to fire the warning shot instead of shooting him and called it "the lesser of two evils."

Her appeal was successful, and she has been granted a re-trial.

Alexander had tried to invoke the "Stand your Ground" law made infamous by the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case but the judge wasn't swayed.

He said that the retrial was granted because the jury was erroneously informed about self-defense, thinking that the victim has to have sustained physical injuries before defending themselves.

The state attorney in the case, Angela Corey, also oversaw the failed prosecution of George Zimmerman.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on November 10, 2013, 07:05:41 PM
http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/11/womans_20_year_sentence_for_wa.html

Woman's 20 year sentence for warning shot overturned, same state attorney as in George Zimmerman case
on November 10, 2013 at 1:15 AM, updated November 10, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Marissa Alexander, a mother of three children, was convicted in less than 12 minutes by a jury and sentences to 20 years in prison for firing a warning shot near her husband as he was reportedly abusing her, per Yahoo.

She testified that she chose to fire the warning shot instead of shooting him and called it "the lesser of two evils."

Her appeal was successful, and she has been granted a re-trial.

Alexander had tried to invoke the "Stand your Ground" law made infamous by the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case but the judge wasn't swayed.

He said that the retrial was granted because the jury was erroneously informed about self-defense, thinking that the victim has to have sustained physical injuries before defending themselves.

The state attorney in the case, Angela Corey, also oversaw the failed prosecution of George Zimmerman.
 ::snipping3::



That's crazy!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on November 11, 2013, 04:35:50 PM
I remember when this happened.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13079.msg1550136#msg1550136


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/11/spike-lee-sued-over-george-zimmerman-tweet/
Spike Lee Sued Over George Zimmerman Tweet
November 11, 2013

An elderly Florida couple who found themselves caught in the center of the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case last year has filed a lawsuit against film director Spike Lee for retweeting information that mistook their home for Zimmerman’s.
Lee sent a Twitter message last year to his 240,000 followers with an address that he thought belonged to Zimmerman, who was accused of killing the unarmed teenager Martin.
But the address was actually that of Elaine and David McClain of Sanford, Fla., both in their early 70s, whose home became the focal point of online vitriol aimed at Zimmerman, who also lived in Sanford.

Now the McClains have accused Lee of negligence in a lawsuit filed in Florida and posted by The Smoking Gun.
The original source of the misinformation was a man in California, who tweeted the address to various celebrities, according to the lawsuit.
Lee then retweeted to his followers with the same address, which was repeated hundreds of times with threatening messages.
The McClains told Orlando, Fla., news station WKMG-TV that the wife’s youngest son’s name is George Zimmerman but he had no relation to the Zimmerman involved in the case and had not lived at the home in years. They have not sued anyone else.
The McClains said in their lawsuit that they feared for their lives after their address was broadcast on Lee’s account. They are seeking at least $15,000 in damages.
Lee previously settled with the couple over the tweet. The couples’ attorney, Matt Morgan, told the Los Angeles Times in March 2012 that Lee called the McClains to apologize and compensated them.
But the couple’s lawsuit now alleges that the threats continued throughout Zimmerman’s 2013 trial. Morgan did not return calls for comment.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 14, 2013, 05:54:05 PM
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/11/14/No-charges-to-be-filed-in-Zimmerman-dispute

No charges to be filed in Zimmerman dispute
updated 4:04 PM EST, Thu November 14, 2013

Investigators on Thursday said no charges will result from an alleged domestic dispute on September 9 between George Zimmerman and his estranged wife, Shellie Zimmerman.

Read more: George Zimmerman, Good Samaritan

Police in Lake Mary, Florida, released a report saying that there is "insufficient evidence" to prosecute the case because forensic experts could not recover video from an iPad that George Zimmerman allegedly damaged during the altercation. The iPad belonged to Shellie Zimmerman.

Investigators sent the iPad to the U.S. Secret Service for examination.

"Despite having a parts iPad, no further examination is possible at this lab due to the severely damaged components and encryption on the flash memory," reads a report written by Special Agent Jonathan Jacobs with the Secret Service's Criminal Investigative Division.

Another report written by Lake Mary Police Detective Ronald Tomassi says the investigation into the altercation is over.

"I received notification that the State Attorney's office had confirmed there was insufficient evidence to prosecute this case. Items were returned to evidence, and this case is exceptionally cleared with the State Attorney's Office decision. My involvement is concluded in this case," reads Tomassi's report.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on November 18, 2013, 01:43:33 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: Here we go again

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/authorities-called-disturbance-involving-george-zi/nbwzk/

George Zimmerman arrested on domestic violence charges


 
SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. —


Channel 9 has confirmed George Zimmerman has been arrested on domestic violence charges in Seminole County on Monday.

The disturbance was at a residence on Topfield Court in unincorporated Apopka, although authorities haven't said what exactly happened.

The Seminole County Sheriff's Office said Zimmerman will be booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility.

No other details have been released.

George Zimmerman has made national headlines several times since his acquittal in July in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Stay with WFTV.com and tune in to Eyewitness News at 4 p.m. as we work to uncover more details.

Over the summer, authorities were called to domestic dispute involving Zimmerman and his wife, Shellie Zimmerman, shortly after she filed for divorce.    

Shellie Zimmerman accused her estranged husband of punching her father and threatening them at the father's home on Ridgewood Road.

In the end, no charges were filed against Zimmerman in the case.

 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on November 18, 2013, 01:46:37 PM
Mods...I made a mess my last post..very sorry  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 18, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
George Zimmerman arrested in Florida after disturbance call
Published November 18, 2013


APOPKA, FLA. –  Former neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman was arrested Monday in Florida after deputies responded to a disturbance call at a house, authorities said.

Zimmerman will be transported and booked into jail, a Seminole County Sheriff's Office statement said. Authorities provided few other details, and it was not immediately known what charges he faced.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/18/george-zimmerman-arrested-in-florida-after-disturbance-call/?intcmp=latestnews


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: BabsKats on November 18, 2013, 04:15:53 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/18/george-zimmerman-arrested-domestic-violence/

11/18/13

George Zimmerman has been arrested in Orlando, FL after allegedly attacking his pregnant girlfriend, law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

According to law enforcement sources -- which have been involved with the Zimmerman case since day one and have always been reliable -- Zimmerman got physical with his girlfriend earlier today, who claimed she was pregnant.

Since she's pregnant, we're told the domestic violence charge is automatically listed as a felony. The Seminole County Sheriff's website says Zimmerman is not eligible for bail.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/18/george-zimmerman-arrested-domestic-violence/#ixzz2l2CP9RXb


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Blonde on November 18, 2013, 05:24:13 PM
Zimmerman arrested, charged with domestic violence
By Dylan Stableford, Yahoo News | Yahoo News – 3 mins 41 secs ago


George Zimmerman, acquitted four months ago in the killing of Trayvon Martin, was arrested on Monday after his girlfriend called 911 during a domestic dispute, telling police he broke a table in her home and pointed a long-barreled shotgun at her.
Zimmerman, 30, was booked into Seminole County Jail, where he is being held without bail.
According to Lt. Dennis Lemma, police responded to the domestic disturbance call at Samantha Scheibe's home in Apopka, Fla., at 12:30 p.m. When deputies arrived, Scheibe indicated Zimmerman had forced her out of her home and barricaded the door with furniture.

http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-arrested-again-195031198.html
Karma will bite you in the butt


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: klaasend on November 18, 2013, 05:53:44 PM
He just can't seem to stay out of trouble, can he?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on November 18, 2013, 06:10:57 PM
He had a AR with him too.  He's looking at the minimum 6 years in prison if not more.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: jamcakes on November 18, 2013, 07:00:38 PM
He seems to have a hot temper, eh?  He should have thanked his lucky stars when he was acquited of Trayvon Martin's and been squeaky clean.  If he goes to jail now, he won't survive his sentence.  jmo


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Tamikosmom on November 18, 2013, 07:49:00 PM
George Zimmerman charged with assault and battery after disturbance call
Published November 18, 2013


APOPKA, FLA. –  George Zimmerman, the man acquitted earlier this year of criminal charges in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, was charged with assault and battery Monday after he allegedly threatened his girlfriend with a shotgun, authorities said.

Police responded to a disturbance call at his girlfriend's house in Apopka, Fla., about 15 miles northwest of Orlando, shortly before 1 p.m. after the woman called 911, Seminole County Sheriff's Office Chief Deputy Dennis Lemma said at an afternoon news conference.

After fleeing the house, the girlfriend, identified by authorities as Samantha Scheibe, gave police a key to the front door, which she said Zimmerman had barricaded with furniture.

Once inside, police found an unarmed Zimmerman, who did not resist arrest, Lemma said.

"The easiest way to describe it is rather passive," Lemma said. "He's had the opportunity to encounter this before."

Police were not sure what the argument was over, though Zemma said authorities believe it involved "some type of separation in the relationship."

Police were searching for at least two weapons in the house, Lemma added.

Zimmerman was charged with aggravated assault with a weapon, battery and criminal mischief, Lemma said. He has a court appearance scheduled for 1:30 p.m. Tuesday.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/18/george-zimmerman-arrested-in-florida-after-disturbance-call/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on November 18, 2013, 07:51:04 PM

Hi Monkey's,

I did not see this posted.

http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/23036294/data/1/-/10jxkjuz/-/Read-George-Zimmerman-s-arrest-affidavit.pdf


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on November 18, 2013, 08:17:51 PM
He is in desperate need of attention.

Any kind of attention.  Good or bad.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 18, 2013, 09:22:50 PM
At the link:  911 call by GZ's girlfriend followed by GZ's 911 call

George Zimmerman ARRESTED -- GF Calls 911, 'He Pulled A Gun On Me!'

http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/18/george-zimmerman-arrested-domestic-violence/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on November 19, 2013, 04:48:53 AM
only a matter of time if he gets off again...ticking time bomb..and now a baby   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on November 19, 2013, 07:14:07 AM
Maybe he should call Baez?? ::MonkeyTongue::

Just sayin...


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on November 19, 2013, 07:27:42 AM
I would be interested to know if his his former wife's statement is true (I don't have the link-and I don't know if the actual divorce has been granted so may still be wife)...anyhow...if her statement regarding since the shooting he has spun out of control. 

He is definitely acting very bizarre and almost attempting to relive it...well not exactly...but in a sense.  I wonder if he has seen a psychiatrist.

Killing a man, whether he meant to or not, is traumatic.  Has he dealt with that?  On top of that...it's been national news and his every move is watched...of course, his behavior is keeping it in the spotlight...I'm just wondering what is going through his mind...and wondering if it could have anything to do with this?  Or was it prior?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2013, 08:52:52 AM
http://www.wesh.com/trayvon-martin-extended-coverage/george-zimmerman-to-appear-in-court-after-domestic-violence-arrest/-/14266478/23042824/-/10rac56/-/index.html

George Zimmerman to appear in court after domestic violence arrest
Zimmerman accused of pointing shotgun at girlfriend in Apopka
Published  6:25 AM EST Nov 19, 2013

POPKA, Fla. —George Zimmerman remained in jail Tuesday morning ahead of his first appearance in front of a judge on aggravated assault and battery charges.

Zimmerman was arrested Monday afternoon after his girlfriend told police he pointed a shotgun in her face and pushed her out of her Apopka home then barricaded the door with furniture. He is charged with felony aggravated assault and battery, domestic violence and criminal mischief and being held without bond.
 ::snipping3::
Read the arrest affidavit  http://www.wesh.com/blob/view/-/23036294/data/1/-/10jxkjuz/-/Read-George-Zimmerman-s-arrest-affidavit.pdf



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2013, 09:10:39 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-makes-casey-anthony-look-good-20131119,0,7133161.post
George Zimmerman makes Casey Anthony look good
By Hal Boedeker Staff writer
8:23 a.m. EST, November 19, 2013

The latest George Zimmerman news actually makes Casey Anthony look good.

At least she got lost after her acquittal.

Zimmerman can't help but keep finding his way back into the headlines after being acquitted in Trayvon Martin's fatal shooting. Zimmerman was back in a big way Monday, when he was arrested on domestic-violence and aggravated-assault charges near Apopka. His girlfriend said Zimmerman had pointed a shotgun at her and broke a table.

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt wearily introduced the story Monday afternoon by saying, "A lot of you are already talking about the Seminole County story online. Most of us were surprised when we heard George Zimmerman was arrested again."

WESH-Channel 2's Dave McDaniel described the story as "a jaw-dropper here in this neighborhood" because people didn't know Zimmerman was living there. McDaniel then talked to neighbors who described Zimmerman as weird, crazy, reckless, uncaring, attention-seeking and above the law,.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2013, 09:20:32 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-arrested-in-seminole-county/-/1637132/23030088/-/anjgk0z/-/index.html
 ::snipping3::
According to the SCSO jail website, Zimmerman was arrested at 1:43 p.m. He has been charged with aggravated assault with a weapon, battery/domestic violence and criminal mischief.

Monday night, Seminole County detectives carried evidence out of Schiebe's home, including a long black bag that was the size of a rifle.

Zimmerman's first appearance will be at 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday. Deputies said they will ask for electronic monitoring of Zimmerman if he is given bond. In the meantime, Zimmerman is being held in a cell by himself on a no-bond status.

The case will be prosecuted by the Office of the State Attorney, 18th Judicial Circuit.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on November 19, 2013, 12:10:33 PM
 ::HelloKitty::
Thank you Klaas for cleaning up after me.
This sort of GZ behavior did not start after the Trayvon shooting. It has been well documented that he had a Hx of DV amongst other things.. We will never really know what happened, but I offer to you as someone in the mental health field that it will continue. It is who he is...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 12:42:36 PM
Two-page article

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-arrest-court-20131119,0,2347648.story

Zimmerman's new lawyer: My client is doing 'as well as can be expected'
12:05 p.m. EST, November 19, 2013

After spending the night in jail, George Zimmerman met this morning with his new attorney, the chief of the public defender's office in Sanford, who described him as "doing as well as can be expected."

The 30-year-old Zimmerman is broke and is now being represented by Jeff Dowdy.

Zimmerman was arrested yesterday, accused of pointing a shotgun at his live-in girlfriend, shoving her out the door and locking it after breaking a glass table.

He's to appear before Seminole County Judge Fred Schott at 1:30 p.m. today in a courtroom at the jail.

Dowdy said he'd ask Schott to release Zimmerman on bail but did not indicate what dollar amount he'll recommend.

He also said Zimmerman would not object to wearing – once again – a satellite monitoring device that will track his whereabouts.

It's not clear where Zimmerman would live, if he's released. He moved out of the home his in-laws leased to him after he and his wife separated in August.

He also won't be going back to the home he shared with his live-in girlfriend on Topfield Court near Apopka, where yesterday's dispute took place.

Dowdy said there are two homes in Central Florida where he could live. He did not specify where they were and said he'd disclose that information under seal to authorities to protect Zimmerman's whereabouts.

The Seminole County Sheriff's Office and court system have kept secret Zimmerman's home address since he killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black 17-year-old, a shooting that set off civil rights marches when it happened and again in July, when a Seminole County jury acquitted him of murder.

Dowdy said he talked to Zimmerman for about 45 minutes this morning.

"He's doing fine, as well as can be expected," Dowdy said.
 ::snipping3::
At today's hearing Schott must decide whether deputies had probable cause yesterday when they arrested Zimmerman on charges that he committed aggravated assault, domestic violence battery and criminal mischief against 27-year-old Samantha Scheibe.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: trimmonthelake on November 19, 2013, 12:49:20 PM
http://live.orlandosentinel.com/Event/George_Zimmerman_hearing
George Zimmerman: First Appearance Hearing
Live chat begins at 1 p.m. Zimmerman's hearing should begin around 1:30 p.m


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 01:27:04 PM
November 19, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/renestutzman

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  55s 
Judge is on bench, attys in place but no #GeorgeZimmerman yet.

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  1m 
A big gun from state atty's handling today's #GeorgeZimmerman hearing: Chris White, head SC prosecutor.
#Trayvon

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  5m 
#GeorgeZimmerman's atty, Jeff Dowdy, just walked into the c-room. No Z yet.
#Trayvon.

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  8m 
#GeorgeZimmerman friend Frank Taaffe's just walked into jail c-ro. He's GZ's former neighbor.

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  12m 
At #GeorgeZimmerman hearing, Judge Schott will be in a separate bldg, presiding by video feed. GZ will be in jail c-room.




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
November 19, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/renestutzman

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  2m 
No #GeorgeZimmerman family at hearing. 7 folks waiting for other cases, Frank Taaffe's and a lawyer's wife.
#Trayvon


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 01:39:05 PM
November 19, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
State wants #GeorgeZimmerman to not have any guns, no leaving state, no passports.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Prosecutor: Victim "is in fear for her safety." Wants #GeorgeZimmerman barred from any contact or coming to her home.
 
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Judge: "I do find probable cause for all three allegations" against #GeorgeZimmerman.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Judge: Do you understand your rights? #GeorgeZimmerman: "Yes, your honor."

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Schott reading #GeorgeZimmerman's rights. "You have the absolute right to confront your accusers," to remain silent, presumed innocent.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
Judge Fred Schott now addressing #GeorgeZimmerman. Informing GZ of his rights to trial, appeal, attorney, etc.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Screenshot: #GeorgeZimmerman arrives in court for first appearance pic.twitter.com/JSkJObgnDZ

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZdGJ_8CYAAbZGP.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 01:45:32 PM
November 19, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Hearing is over. Recap: #GeorgeZimmerman gets $9K bond. No guns/weapons while out, no contact with victim, must wear GPS device.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Next #GeorgeZimmerman court date: Jan. 7, 2014. GZ will be on GPS monitoring as well.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Judge orders #GeorgeZimmerman to have no weapons while on bond, no contact whatsoever with the victim.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
#GeorgeZimmerman's bond will be $9,000, judge rules. No returning to victim's house, except with cops to get his stuff.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Defense asks for $4,900 bond. Zimmerman "would have some locations" in C. Fla. where he could say, public defender says.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
State requests $50,000 bond. Says victim didn't report to police another recent incident which involved choking.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 01:57:05 PM
November 19, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Assistant Public Defender Dowdy on #GeorgeZImmerman: "Of course he's sorry about what happened," but is "maintaining his innocence."

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Dowdy asked if #GeorgeZimmerman's girlfriend is pregnant. "I cannot clarify it and I do not know whether she is," he says.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  59s 
#GeorgeZimmerman public defender says he's confident GZ will be acquitted in his domestic violence case.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Dowdy: "The sheriff's office removed all of the weapons" from the house yesterday. Says #GeorgeZimmerman has other stuff at gf's house.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
#GeorgeZimmerman attorney Jeff Dowdy tells reporters: "Hopefully he'll be out by tomorrow morning."



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 02:05:10 PM
November 19, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/renestutzman

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  9m 
#GeorgeZimmerman judge is Jessica Recksiedler. Last go-round she recused because her hub works w/ Mark NeJame, a CNN legal analyst.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on November 19, 2013, 03:20:46 PM
Will I get my head bit off if I suggest that Z might be PSTD after all the turmoil and threats over the last 2 years? 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on November 19, 2013, 04:24:03 PM
Will I get my head bit off if I suggest that Z might be PSTD after all the turmoil and threats over the last 2 years? 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
Video at the link

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/19/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arrest/

George Zimmerman posts $9,000 bail in domestic violence case
updated 6:55 PM EST, Tue November 19, 2013

(CNN) -- A Florida judge on Tuesday set bail for George Zimmerman at $9,000 and ordered a number of conditions for his freedom -- including that he not possess weapons -- while he awaits trial on charges he pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend.

He was released from the John E. Polk Correctional Facility on Tuesday afternoon. He didn't speak with the media. It was unclear where he was headed.

Zimmerman was arrested Monday at his girlfriend's Apopka home, four months after he was acquitted of murdering teenager Trayvon Martin.

Earlier, Zimmerman said little as a judge, during Zimmerman's first appearance Tuesday afternoon in Seminole County court, said he found probable cause for Zimmerman's arrest on a felony charge of aggravated assault and misdemeanor counts of domestic violence battery and criminal mischief. Zimmerman's arraignment has been scheduled for January 7.

A prosecutor revealed a new allegation against Zimmerman while trying to argue for a higher bail -- that Zimmerman tried to choke his girlfriend a week and a half before Monday's alleged shotgun incident, and that Zimmerman had talked about suicide.

Assistant State Attorney Lymary Munoz argued for $50,000 bail, saying that new information should heighten concern for the accuser's safety, though the alleged incident hadn't been reported to police.

The new allegation is not reflected in the preliminary charges. But Judge Fred Schott cited the choking accusation when he put the bail at $9,000, saying it prompted him to set it higher than the $4,900 requested by the defense.

Jeff Dowdy and Daniel Megaro, the public defenders representing Zimmerman, told reporters afterward that they hadn't known of the choking allegation previously.

"That was news to us," Dowdy said. "... That was not contained in the arrest report, and that's the first we've heard about it."

Schott put conditions on Zimmerman's bail: That he cannot go to two Florida addresses; he cannot have contact with the accuser, Samantha Scheibe; he cannot possess weapons; he must wear a monitoring device; and he cannot travel outside Florida.

The judge initially said Zimmerman could return to one of the banned addresses with law enforcement to retrieve his belongings, but later -- at Munoz's urging -- revsersed that allowance, saying a third party could get the belongings instead.

Megaro told reporters he was confident Zimmerman would be acquitted. Dowdy said Zimmerman would post bail perhaps by Wednesday, "regroup and try to address the charges."

"He's maintained his innocence, I'll tell you that," Dowdy said

Megaro was asked about Scheibe's alleged claims that Zimmerman talked about suicide.

"He's back in jail. Obviously that causes a certain amount of anxiety and stress on somebody. I would not characterize him as what the state attorney has said, meaning he's suicidal and volatile. We did not get that impression from him," Megaro said.

Zimmerman's public defenders said Tuesday they were appointed to the case because Zimmerman said he couldn't afford an attorney.

He is unemployed, according to a police report, and has about $150 to his name with debts of $2.5 million, according to his request for a public defender.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on November 19, 2013, 07:48:14 PM
Is anyone here surprised? 

He will continue with the same patterns until he kills someone again.

I can hear it now, in that soft femme voice, "But officer, sir, she punched me and I feared for my life".

LOL, just like his wife broke her own iPad and his girlfriend broke her own table.

He's the punk.

And any creditor who would give money to this lessthanaman should just consider it a gift.

He's a taker, a liar, a coward, a leech, and a murderous pig.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Babybear on November 19, 2013, 08:32:11 PM
Is anyone here surprised? 

He will continue with the same patterns until he kills someone again.

I can hear it now, in that soft femme voice, "But officer, sir, she punched me and I feared for my life".

LOL, just like his wife broke her own iPad and his girlfriend broke her own table.

He's the punk.

And any creditor who would give money to this lessthanaman should just consider it a gift.

He's a taker, a liar, a coward, a leech, and a murderous pig.

I don't come here often anymore, but I just couldn't resist because of this story.
Amys Sister IMO you are absolutely right.  He is nothing but a punk.  He got away with murder once, but I don't think that Trayvon Martin is the last person he will kill.
He is a coward, a liar, a taker, a leech and most of all, a murderous pig.  Well said.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 08:44:19 PM
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/a/168210/with-george-zimmerman-dueling-911-calls-raise-questions/

With George Zimmerman, dueling 911 calls raise questions
Tuesday, November 19, 2013 | 6:23 p.m. CST

When George Zimmerman and his girlfriend called 911 in the heat of a domestic dispute, they almost certainly knew that they were not just talking to the emergency dispatcher. In the age of Twitter and the 24-hour news cycle, experts say a call to central dispatch can quickly become public and is often manipulated to spin a story or even lay the groundwork for a criminal defense.

"There really has been what I would call a multiyear training program in place, frankly" to use 911 calls strategically, former Massachusetts prosecutor Wendy Murphy said. "And folks, especially people who understand high-profile crimes and the nature of evidence and the rules of evidence and domestic abuse generally, they (know) the power of a 911 call to change not only the trajectory of the case, but to change public opinion and to affect the jury pool."
 ::snipping3::
"So it's almost as if he's making statement about the case beforehand — especially if he's not planning on testifying in the future" LaMance said. "It allows him to speak without the fear of cross-examination. So if he can get his side out, and in a clear way, he never has to face the other side asking him questions or follow-ups."

But LaMance said it's also safe to assume that Scheibe knew any allegations she made against her infamous boyfriend would immediately go viral — as would her 911 recording.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: iluvmua on November 19, 2013, 08:59:29 PM
I totally believe he has PTSD, I think anyone would after they killed someone.

If anything, they need to ban him from owning any weapon for the rest of his life.


The evidence showed in the TM case that TM DID have the upper hand and George did what he had to do in order to keep himself from being killed, There is no other way around it.

It's sad that HE is still being blamed for defending himself.  I think anyone in his situation would do the same. I know, I would not hesitate for one second to defend myself if my life was on the line.

This is all MOO.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 09:18:17 PM
I totally believe he has PTSD, I think anyone would after they killed someone.

If anything, they need to ban him from owning any weapon for the rest of his life.


The evidence showed in the TM case that TM DID have the upper hand and George did what he had to do in order to keep himself from being killed, There is no other way around it.

It's sad that HE is still being blamed for defending himself.  I think anyone in his situation would do the same. I know, I would not hesitate for one second to defend myself if my life was on the line.

This is all MOO.

Agree.  jmho



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 09:21:07 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/19/justice/high-profile-acquittals-after/

As Zimmerman case shows, troubles often follow high-profile acquittals
updated 3:40 PM EST, Tue November 19, 2013

(CNN) -- George Zimmerman showed little emotion as the verdict was read. But after months in which the weight of the world seemingly lay on his shoulder, a period in which he was called everything from a murderer to a racist to a pig-headed jerk, more emotion would be very understandable, if not expected. After all, he was a free man.

Yet his story didn't end there.

Yes, when Zimmerman walked out of the Florida courtroom that Saturday night in July, he legally could have gone anywhere or done anything. A jury opted not to convict him of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin -- the unarmed black teen who Zimmerman said he shot in self-defense -- or a lesser charge of manslaughter. In an instant, he went from the prospect of life behind bars to seemingly unlimited prospects.

It hasn't been that simple. A lot has happened to George Zimmerman since his acquittal.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on November 19, 2013, 11:10:16 PM
We all know what it takes to prosecute someone.  Many, many people have either never been arrested or were unable to be convicted even though it is very likely they were guilty.  In Trayvon's case he was killed so unable to testify as to what really happened and he's the only one who really knows besides a very shady and dishonest Zimmerman.

IMO the evidence does not show his innocence.

Lots of excuses being given for this man and his behavior, which goes back years before he killed Trayvon.

IMO he's going to do something that there will be no excuse for.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJXXfxRDRU4

George Zimmerman Court Appearance on November 19, 2013

Published on Nov 19, 2013 
November 19, 2013 - George Zimmerman Court Appearance


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 11:40:04 PM
November 19, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/renestutzman

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  6h 
#Zimmerman: I'm very, very broke. I owe O'Mara and West $2.5 million. I have $144.
#Trayvon

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  8h 
#Zimmerman's family has pledged to help him come up w/ bail, new atty says.

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  8h 
#Zimmerman is $2.5 million in debt, says new atty, largely money owed O'Mara and West.

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  8h 
A bad day got worse: while in jail Shellie #Zimmerman had divorce papers served on Geo. He'd been dodging 'em for months. #Trayvon



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 19, 2013, 11:55:46 PM
November 19, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5h 
#GeorgeZimmerman granted $9,000 bond on domestic violence charges, released from jail | Updated story: http://bit.ly/I3fvCQ  #Zimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6h 
Right. MT @RichardHornsby: Dear @CNN: #Zimmerman didn't "agree not to have weapons," he was ordered not to have them http://bit.ly/1aPMNvc
 
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6h 
Court document: #GeorgeZimmerman reports his current financial status http://bit.ly/1aPM9hx  #Zimmerman pic.twitter.com/Y3trdduwQU
View photo

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6h 
Video: #GeorgeZimmerman leaves jail after posting bond in domestic violence case | Watch: http://bit.ly/1aPMmkE  #Zimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6h 
PDFs: #Zimmerman's financial affidavit, claiming $2.5 million in debt http://bit.ly/1aPM9hx  Hearing minutes: http://bit.ly/1aPM6SQ

The Atlantic ‏@TheAtlantic  13h 
English has a brand-new preposition. Because Internet. http://theatln.tc/HWX7en
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 

 Michelle Guido ‏@mguido  7h 
#Zimmerman walked out of jail moments ago after posting $9K bond. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-arrest-court-20131119,0,2347648.story … pic.twitter.com/F8q5INZCOd
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: labubske on November 20, 2013, 01:30:56 AM
perception...perception...perception...anyway...I have other cases to look after...this one is not newsworthy.  I shouldn't have commented.  Even commenting just feeds into it...for him...for the Martins...for oh what's his name...that inserts himself as a civil rights guy...I vow this day forward...no matter what this guy does...oI will not be back in this thread...I will focus somewhere else.  I hope that at some point he receives the help that he needs after such a traumatic event and that Trayvon's parents are getting the help that they need too. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2013, 08:31:35 AM
Is anyone here surprised? 

He will continue with the same patterns until he kills someone again.

I can hear it now, in that soft femme voice, "But officer, sir, she punched me and I feared for my life".

LOL, just like his wife broke her own iPad and his girlfriend broke her own table.

He's the punk.

And any creditor who would give money to this lessthanaman should just consider it a gift.

He's a taker, a liar, a coward, a leech, and a murderous pig.

I don't come here often anymore, but I just couldn't resist because of this story.
Amys Sister IMO you are absolutely right.  He is nothing but a punk.  He got away with murder once, but I don't think that Trayvon Martin is the last person he will kill.
He is a coward, a liar, a taker, a leech and most of all, a murderous pig.  Well said.

He is a Bully, IMO. 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: jamcakes on November 20, 2013, 10:03:20 AM
GZ has some serious issues.  Controlling his temper to learning from past mistakes, he seems very immature for a man his age.  I agree that he does need counseling.  Anyone would in his circumstances.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2013, 11:46:45 AM
GZ has some serious issues.  Controlling his temper to learning from past mistakes, he seems very immature for a man his age.  I agree that he does need counseling.  Anyone would in his circumstances.

maybe alittle spoiled, i wonder if he raised to be "king of the hill" :) He certainly behaves like he is King George.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2013, 12:29:47 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/19/george-zimmerman-wife-shellie-divorce-papers-served-jail/ ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
George Zimmerman served with divorce papers at jail


(http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/11/20/zimmerman_divorce/_jcr_content/contentpar/articleBody/image.img.jpg/1384959047713.jpg)
George Zimmerman walks out of the Seminole County Jail after posting a $9,000 bond Tuesday, Nov. 19, 2013



Last Updated: Wednesday, November 20, 2013, 9:50 AM

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/11/20/zimmerman_divorce.html?cid=rss


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Babybear on November 20, 2013, 07:04:43 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/19/george-zimmerman-wife-shellie-divorce-papers-served-jail/ ::CowboySmiley::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 20, 2013, 07:53:02 PM
 :2thinky:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-when-emails-become-news-20131120,0,2252808.post

George Zimmerman girlfriend: I did not set him up
By Hal Boedeker
10:02 a.m. EST, November 20, 2013

UPDATED: George Zimmerman's girlfriend, Samantha Scheibe, has refused to appear on camera until she gets a paid national interview, WKMG-Channel 6 reported Wednesday night.

WKMG's Erik Sandoval broke the story of Scheibe's personal details about her relationship with Zimmerman in a report at 11 p.m. Tuesday.

"I did actually speak to her at noon today after our story aired last night at 11," Sandoval said at 6 p.m. Wednesday. "She wants to make it absolutely clear. She says that she and her daughter did not set Zimmerman up for what happened on Monday at her home in Apopka."

Sheibe said it was coincidental that she was seeking a national interview and that on Monday she claimed he pointed a gun at her. He has been charged with aggravated assault, domestic-violence battery and criminal mischief in the incident.

Zimmerman's attorney had no response to the WKMG story yet, Sandoval said.

In its Tuesday report, WKMG shared text messages between the station and Scheibe and her mother, Hope Mason. The women had been talking to  Sandoval for three weeks about an interview.

When do texts constitute news?

"If you say something newsworthy," said WKMG news director Steve Hyvonen. "They knew Erik was a reporter. They gave him a lot of information that was pertinent."

Did the two women know they were always on the record?

Yes, Hyvonen said.

Sandoval had been talking to Scheibe and Mason almost every day for the past few weeks, and they wanted to talk frankly about Zimmerman, Hyvonen said.

"The interview was set up and put off, set up and put off," Hyvonen said. "We're sitting on newsworthy material."
 ::snipping3::
WKMG legal analyst Luis Calderon said the pursuit of that interview could help Zimmerman's case. "The defense could make it out to be nothing more nothing less than her doing this for some financial motive or some publicity," Calderon said.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 20, 2013, 08:24:42 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-learn-civil-rights-charges-await-trayvon-martin-case-article-1.1523733

George Zimmerman threatened suicide, put gun in mouth, downed pills after trial: girlfriend
Published: Wednesday, November 20, 2013, 3:21 PM
Updated: Wednesday, November 20, 2013, 6:34 PM

George Zimmerman allegedly “spiraled” into a depression so deep after he was acquitted of murdering Trayvon Martin that he shoved a gun in his mouth and threatened to pull the trigger.

And this was after he downed a whole bottle of sleeping pills, his estranged girlfriend Samantha Scheibe says.

The insight into Zimmerman’s shaky state of mind came a day after the infamous former neighborhood watchman was socked with a triple whammy — he was charged with assaulting Scheibe, served with divorce papers by wife Shellie and revealed to be $2.5 million in debt.

Scheibe, in a series of text messages and phone calls with an Orlando, Fla., television station, said she believes Zimmerman secretly enjoyed the attention when he was on trial and couldn’t handle a “normal existence” after the media went away after his acquittal in July.

Zimmerman, she said, was obsessed with guns, spent days lolling around in bed and only went anywhere with dog Oso.

When Scheibe suggested in October that he see a psychiatrist, Zimmerman flipped out and threw all her stuff out of her Apopka, Fla., home.

“She's scared is the bottom line,” Scheibe's mother, Hope Mason, wrote in a text message to WKMG Local 6.

But Scheibe and Zimmerman reconciled and shared a roof until Monday, when he was arrested for allegedly threatening her with a shotgun and smashing a glass coffee table.

Scheibe and Mason had been negotiating with the TV station to do an interview that never happened, WKMG reporter Erik Sandoval reported.

They said that by going public, they would spur Zimmerman into seeing a professional and protect themselves as well.

Scheibe, 27, said she dated Zimmerman before he married Shellie and that she wasn’t trying to cash in on his infamy.

But a longtime Scheibe pal told the Daily News “she always sought the spotlight and wanted her fifteen minutes of fame.”

“I'm not surprised she's with Zimmerman,” said the friend, who asked not to be identified. “I mean now she's got people chasing her, talking about her, her picture is all over the papers. Next thing you know, she'll write a book or be on some reality show.”
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on November 20, 2013, 09:29:05 PM


Girlfriend: Zimmerman depressed, fascinated by guns
Samantha Scheibe, her mother detail relationship with George Zimmerman
Author: Erik Sandoval, Reporter, esandoval@wkmg.com
Published On: Nov 20 2013 11:00:40 AM EST   Updated On: Nov 20 2013 11:11:47 AM EST
3 pages


 ::monkeyscissors::

Scheibe says she watched as Shellie hit George over the head repeatedly with her iPad. That's when she said George took the iPad away from her, broke it over his knee and threw it to the ground.



 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


http://www.news4jax.com/news/girlfriend-zimmerman-depressed-fascinated-by-guns/-/475880/23066944/-/item/2/-/kj0tf8z/-/index.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 20, 2013, 11:39:02 PM
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/11/20/george-zimmerman-set-up-if-it-walks-like-a-duck-looks-like-a-duck-quacks-like-a-duck-avoid-the-bill-dont-sleep-with-it/

Was George Zimmerman Set Up ? – If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck…..
Posted on November 20, 2013   by sundance

Sex Tapes?  Depression, Drugs & Suicide?

For those who have followed the post-trial Zimmerama (Zimmerman + Drama) it’s fair to say stable judgment is not an excessive commodity.

Extending and accepting the baseline premise that no-one ever really knows what’s going on in the he said/she said world of emotional Ping-Pong nonsense.

There is however, something afoot; something amiss; something, well, sketchy with the latest “girlfriend” *quack* drama.
 ::snipping3::

Comments


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 23, 2013, 01:03:17 AM
Video at the link

http://www.newsmax.com/US/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-trauma-girlfriend/2013/11/22/id/538225

Lawyer O'Mara: Martin Shooting Traumatized Zimmerman
Friday, 22 Nov 2013 05:35 PM

George Zimmerman's arrest for allegedly pointing a shotgun at his girlfriend may stem from the trauma he suffered during his trial for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman's former attorney Mark O'Mara says.

 "People don't like when I say George went through trauma as well, because it doesn't compare to what Trayvon went through, but George went through trauma as well," O'Mara told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

Story continues below video.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 23, 2013, 01:06:58 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/mark-omara-worried-about-george-zimmerman/-/1637132/23100234/-/bmw31bz/-/index.html

Mark O'Mara 'worried' about George Zimmerman
Published On: Nov 22 2013 12:07:04 AM EST   Updated On: Nov 22 2013 06:38:09 AM EST

ORLANDO, Fla. - 
George Zimmerman's former attorney says he's "worried" about his one-time client following Zimmerman's arrest on assault charges.

Mark O'Mara responded to the arrest for the first time Thursday night.

During a nationally televised interview on CNN, O'Mara described Zimmerman as "peaceful" and "mellow" before being arrested for the murder of Trayvon Martin. But he says the long trial caused trauma, and says Zimmerman has never received any counseling.

"He was turned into one of the most hated men in America for having to defend his life, O'Mara said. "So I'm not sure what happens with a 28-year-old when you do that to him and put him in hiding for 16 or 18 months. Maybe this is some of that fallout."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 23, 2013, 01:26:55 AM
Video at the link from CNN, "Zimmermans former attorney Im worried."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/11/developing-zimmerman-defense-narrative-girlfriend-set-him-up/

Developing Zimmerman defense narrative: Girlfriend set him up
Posted by William A. Jacobson  Friday, November 22, 2013 at 3:57pm

Almost as soon as George Zimmerman was arrested, a report surfaced that girlfriend Samantha Scheibe, who made the dramatic phone call to 911, had been shopping her story to national media for several weeks – but no one would pay her what she wanted.

The Orlando Sentinel confirmed that at least one national media outlet (unnamed) had such communications:

WKMG’s report that the women were seeking money for interviews with national news organizations was confirmed to the Sentinel by one such organization.

Not unexpectedly, the Zimmerman defense team is letting it be known that this was a set-up, via TMZ:

George Zimmerman was duped and done in by a lying GF who faked a pregnancy to keep him around and then framed him when she realized he was leaving her … sources connected with Zimmerman tell TMZ.

George is now facing felony domestic violence charges after Samantha Scheibe claimed he threatened her with a gun and forced her out of their house.

Our Zimmerman sources say … here’s how it really went down:

Early this month, George made it clear to Samantha he was leaving her and leaving Florida. Samantha then dropped a bombshell– that she was 6 weeks pregnant. George now believes she was lying about it in order to keep him in her grip.

George then offered to make a child custody and support deal … but Samantha wanted him.

On Monday … things came to a head when George was packing his bags to leave and our sources say Samantha concocted the whole gun scenario as revenge.
 ::snipping3::
------------------------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Asd3xlFo8I

Zimmermans former attorney Im worried
Published on Nov 22, 2013 

George Zimmerman's former attorney discusses his recent troubles and wife Shellie's interview with Katie Couric.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on November 23, 2013, 05:05:44 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/23/george-zimmerman-ohio-buckeye-firearm-foundation-guns-fundraiser/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 25, 2013, 12:44:58 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-new-lawyer-20131125,0,5351979.story

George Zimmerman drops public defender, hires Miami lawyer
By Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
12:37 p.m. EST, November 25, 2013

George Zimmerman, the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer acquitted of murder in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, will no longer be represented by a public defender in his domestic violence case.

Zimmerman, 30, was arrested last week, accused of pointing a shotgun at his girlfriend, Samantha Scheibe, smashing a glass table, forcing her from her home and barricading himself inside during a domestic dispute.

Zimmerman was represented by the 18th Judicial Circuit Public Defender's Office during his first appearance before a judge on Tuesday, the day after his arrest. He was granted $9,000 bail, and bonded out that day.

However, Zimmerman has now elected to drop the Public Defender's Office and hire Jayne Weintraub, a south Florida private criminal defense attorney, to represent him, according to his former public defender, Jeff Dowdy.

It's unclear how Zimmerman will afford private representation. In indigence paperwork last week, Zimmerman claimed to have $144, and owe $2.5 million in debt. Weintraub didn't immediately return a call for comment.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 25, 2013, 07:13:19 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-new-lawyer-20131125,0,5351979.story

George Zimmerman drops public defender, asks for return of knife & phones
6:25 p.m. EST, November 25, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Meanwhile, in a new motion, Zimmerman asks for the return of several items seized by police which he says are "not related to the [domestic violence] charges in any way and are not considered evidence" in the case.

Those items: An Apple iPhone, a Blackberry cell phone, a small hand-held flashlight and a pocket knife. The motion was filed by a colleague of Dowdy's, apparently before Zimmerman switched to the private lawyer.

Dowdy also entered a written not-guilty plea on Zimmerman's behalf, and waived his appearance at an arraignment scheduled for January. Zimmerman faces aggravated assault with a weapon and two other charges.
 ::snipping3::
Weintraub has appeared on the cable networks HLN and CNN as a legal commentator, including commentary on Zimmerman's high-profile murder case in the 2012 killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 25, 2013, 07:23:32 PM
http://www.broadandcassel.com/attorneybio.aspx?ID=15231

Jayne C. Weintraub

(http://www.broadandcassel.com/images/atty/jweintraub.jpg)

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http://www.sflegalguide.com/Weintraub.html

Jayne C. Weintraub


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 02, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-bodyguards-settle-20131202,0,2430300.story

Shellie Zimmerman, Mark O'Mara settle lawsuit with bodyguards
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
1:45 p.m. EST, December 2, 2013

The bodyguard company that sued George Zimmerman and Mark O'Mara, saying they had failed to pay for $27,000 worth of protection, has settled the case.

CMR Associates formally settled on Nov. 22 and filed paperwork to dismissed the case last week, records at the Orange County Courthouse show.

CMR executive Chris Rumbaugh today said O'Mara and Shellie Zimmerman settled by paying a combined $30,000.

He said George Zimmerman refused to settle but that he had no plans to continue legal action against the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 03, 2013, 12:11:15 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-legal-bills-20131129,0,7584756.story

Zimmerman's not-guilty verdict comes with 'mind-numbing' $2.5M bill
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
November 29, 2013

George Zimmerman was acquitted at his racially charged murder trial in July. He won but at a very steep cost.

Two months ago, he received a $2.5 million bill from his two lead attorneys, Mark O'Mara and Don West.

They had kept track of the time they worked on the case. Each billed him for about 3,000 hours, according to O'Mara.

In a high-profile but not very complicated murder case, the relationship between lawyer and client and money long ago grew complicated. Only now, though, is that issue out in the open.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on December 09, 2013, 05:31:58 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/george-zimmermans-girlfriend-recants-domestic-viol/ncGMS/
George Zimmerman's girlfriend recants domestic violence allegations

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. —


Channel 9 has learned George Zimmerman's girlfriend wants the court to lift the no-contact order against him.

Zimmerman was arrested for domestic violence last month after his girlfriend, Samantha Scheibe, called 911 and said he pointed a gun at her.

In recently obtained court documents, Scheibe is now saying that wasn’t true and she was just overwhelmed and tired after their argument.

Zimmerman is free on $9,000 bond on charges of aggravated assault, battery and criminal mischief. He has pleaded not guilty.

Scheibe has claimed investigators refused to let her talk to a lawyer. She also said she does not want to press charges against Zimmerman.

A search warrant made public after Zimmerman's arrest shows he had a 12-gauge shotgun, an AR-15 assault rifle and three handguns when he was arrested on Nov. 18 at his girlfriend's house.

Zimmerman was acquitted of murder in July in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin during a confrontation in the community where Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer.






Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on December 09, 2013, 05:53:38 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-girlfriend-drop-charges/story?id=21153527
George Zimmerman's Girlfriend Wants to Drop Charges, 'Be With Him'
December 9, 2013

Interesting comments, imo.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 09, 2013, 06:18:02 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-zimmerman-girlfriend-wants-charges-dropped-20131209,0,6786314.story

George Zimmerman's girlfriend wants charges dropped, motion says
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
5:19 p.m. EST, December 9, 2013

George Zimmerman's girlfriend — who authorities said accused him of pointing a shotgun at her — no longer wants him to be prosecuted, and wants to resume their relationship, according a new motion.

A sworn statement attributed to the girlfriend, Samantha Scheibe, was attached to a motion by Zimmerman's lawyer seeking to modify the conditions of Zimmerman's bond in his domestic violence case.

In the statement, Scheibe says she felt "intimidated" when police questioned her about the Nov. 18 incident that led to Zimmerman's arrest. She adds that she "may have misspoken."

"I want to be with George," Scheibe says in the statement, adding later: "I do not want George Zimmerman charged. I make this decision freely, knowingly and voluntarily," and without coercion, she says.

She says that she and Zimmerman had an "argument," but Zimmerman "never pointed a gun at or toward my face in a threatening manner."

The Scheibe statement also says that she was more intimidated by the law enforcement officers who investigated the case than Zimmerman.

"I was not allowed to call an attorney nor was I allowed to eat or drink anything for a very long time," she says, adding that police "misinterpreted" her Zimmerman's arrest report.

"Further, I request that the Seminole County State Attorney's Office not be allowed to harass me because I do not with to take part in any prosecution of this case on behalf of the State," the statement concludes.

Chris White, lead prosecutor in Seminole County, said he learned of Scheibe's change of heart today.

He said his office would evaluate her affidavit and decide later this week whether to push forward with the case or abandon it.

The motion by Zimmerman's attorney Jayne Weintraub asks for Zimmerman's judge to allow contact with Scheibe "anywhere, including her residence."
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 09, 2013, 06:36:11 PM
Documents at the link:   Defendant's Motion to Modify Conditions of Pretrial Release (GZ) and Affidavit (SS)

*BLOCKED*/media/acrobat/2013-12/149105120-09141553.pdf

The Documents are also available at the following link:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-zimmerman-girlfriend-wants-charges-dropped-20131209,0,6786314.story
George Zimmerman's girlfriend wants charges dropped, motion says
5:19 p.m. EST, December 9, 2013


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on December 10, 2013, 06:59:59 AM
I speculate that he wants to go home for Christmas, and he can't, because of the doo-dad, on his ankle.

If his fam live in another State (speculation) he may not to go home for the Holidays.

Is his daddy, trying to per$uade her, to order to change her mind?  IMO

Or is Mr. T, fed up with (babysitting) his buddy? 


This is all speculation and opinions ::snowmanlaugh::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 11, 2013, 06:22:43 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-charges-dropped-20131211,0,4314773.story

George Zimmerman will not be charged in domestic dispute, prosecutor says
By Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
6:03 p.m. EST, December 11, 2013

George Zimmerman's latest brush with the criminal justice system ended Wednesday, when State Attorney Phil Archer announced that Zimmerman will not face charges in a domestic incident last month.
 ::snipping3::
In a statement Wednesday, Archer said the Seminole County Sheriff's Office had probable cause to arrest Zimmerman after Scheibe called 911 and reported Zimmerman was armed and behaving threateningly.

"However, upon reviewing the recent affidavit... and taking into account the conflicting statements about what occurred, the failure to cooperate with the ongoing investigation, and a lack of any other corroborating evidence or witnesses, there is no reasonable likelihood of successful prosecution," said Archer, the top prosecutor for Seminole and Brevard counties.
 ::snipping3::
After prosecutors declined to file charges, Zimmerman was released from his bond conditions. That means he can once again possess guns and he'll no longer have to stay away from Scheibe or wear a GPS device.

Zimmerman's south Florida attorney, Jayne Weintraub, credited Archer and Assistant State Attorney Christopher White, who she said did the right thing in light of the Scheibe affidavit.

"They discussed with me their concerns, I discussed with them our view... that they would not be able to have a sustainable case," she said.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: cadillac on December 13, 2013, 09:17:17 AM
Bad boy wears Teflon, eh?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 13, 2013, 06:02:27 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/13/trayvon-martin-parents-book-_n_4441894.html

Trayvon Martin's Parents Planning To Release Book On Their Son's Death, Zimmerman Trial And More
Posted: 12/13/2013 5:18 pm EST
 
After spending more than a year at the center of one of the country's biggest news stories, Trayvon Martin's parents are planning to release a book about their son, his death, his shooter's trial and more.

According to The New York Times, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin met with publishing executives to discuss a book chronicling their journey since Trayvon's death in February 2012.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 16, 2013, 10:05:10 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-omara-complaint-20131216,0,3523757.story

O'Mara faces Florida Bar complaint about Zimmerman case
6:36 p.m. EST, December 16, 2013

Orlando attorney Mark O'Mara, who took on George Zimmerman as a client in one of the nation's most high-profile murder trials and won his acquittal, is now the subject of an ethics complaint for how he handled the case.

Few details are available, including who filed the complaint and what allegations O'Mara is facing, but The Florida Bar on Monday confirmed that its staff is investigating a complaint and has made no determination as to whether O'Mara should face possible discipline.

O'Mara would not comment.
 ::snipping3::
During the lead-up to the trial, O'Mara and West complained about the conduct of prosecutors, especially Bernie de la Rionda, accusing him of hiding evidence. De la Rionda lodged a similar counterclaim with the trial judge, Debra S. Nelson in Sanford, but she has taken no final action on either set of allegations.

The Florida Bar said Monday that neither de la Rionda nor co-counsel John Guy currently face ethics complaints related to the Zimmerman case.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 17, 2013, 01:38:44 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-puts-painting-ebay-bids-rise-thousands-article-1.1549778

George Zimmerman lists painting on eBay to tens of thousands of dollars in bids
Published: Monday, December 16, 2013, 7:31 PM
Updated: Monday, December 16, 2013, 10:51 PM

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1549776.1387239495!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/zimmerman17n-2-web.jpg)
Ebay

George Zimmerman is taking eBay by storm while armed with only a paintbrush.

Bidding wars over an original painting crafted by the former neighborhood cop is raising tens of thousands of dollars in just its first few hours listed for sale.

The signed painting of a blue American flag was listed Monday with a starting bid of $50 before skyrocketing to more than $99,000 while under the username 'theRealGeorgeZ.'
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on December 18, 2013, 08:49:50 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-puts-painting-ebay-bids-rise-thousands-article-1.1549778

George Zimmerman lists painting on eBay to tens of thousands of dollars in bids
Published: Monday, December 16, 2013, 7:31 PM
Updated: Monday, December 16, 2013, 10:51 PM

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1549776.1387239495!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/zimmerman17n-2-web.jpg)
Ebay

George Zimmerman is taking eBay by storm while armed with only a paintbrush.

Bidding wars over an original painting crafted by the former neighborhood cop is raising tens of thousands of dollars in just its first few hours listed for sale.

The signed painting of a blue American flag was listed Monday with a starting bid of $50 before skyrocketing to more than $99,000 while under the username 'theRealGeorgeZ.'
 ::snipping3::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::.
 Is Z aware that the IRS reads E-bay, too? 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 18, 2013, 04:11:26 PM
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/south/2013/12/zimmermans_former_attorney_unfazed_by_bar_inquiry

Zimmerman's former attorney unfazed by bar inquiry
Tuesday, December 17, 2013

ORLANDO, Fla. — The attorney who helped get George Zimmerman acquitted of murder charges said Tuesday that he expects an ethics inquiry opened by the Florida Bar will find nothing wrong in how he handled a defense fund and social media during the case.

Mark O'Mara said on his website that the inquiry was opened before the trial when his office contacted the bar for advice on how it should go about managing the fund and website it set up to assist it in Zimmerman's second-degree murder case in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The issue was deferred until after the trial and O'Mara said he is "certain that matter will be closed shortly, and that the conclusion will suggest that we handled these new and novel approaches in an appropriate and ethical way."

Florida bar spokeswoman Francine Walker said in an email that the complaint was at the "staff investigation level" and that she couldn't provide further information due to confidentiality rules.

O'Mara said everything his office did regarding the defense fund and on social media was transparent from the start.

"The Florida Bar opened an inquiry, which included very specific questions regarding our policies for each and how we were conducting ourselves," O'Mara said in the statement. "We responded promptly and to The Florida Bar's satisfaction, and the entire matter was deferred until after the trial. Although no further action has been taken since the verdict, the file has remained open."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 22, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/22/george-zimmerman-painting-apparently-worth-100099-99/

George Zimmerman Painting Apparently Worth $100,099.99
Dec. 22, 2013

The oil painting George Zimmerman put up for sale on eBay last week is officially off the market. After bidding closed Saturday, the artwork fetched a cool $100,099.99.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 27, 2013, 03:13:42 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-wife-crash-20131227,0,5693431.story

George Zimmerman's wife injured in Winter Park crash
By Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
2:16 p.m. EST, December 27, 2013

George Zimmerman's estranged wife was taken to a local hospital after a crash in Winter Park on Friday, according to the Winter Park Police Department.

Initial indications were that Shellie Zimmerman was turning onto Aloma Avenue from Phelps Avenue when her car was struck, a police spokesman said.

Police suspect the other driver ran a red light and was driving while under the influence. He was being processed for arrest on Friday afternoon, police said.

Shellie Zimmerman was taken to a local hospital. Police said she complained of a foot injury, and also appeared to have suffered other, superficial injuries.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 27, 2013, 03:19:40 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/shellie-zimmerman-injured-in-dui-crash-in-winter-park/-/1637132/23669656/-/qsydd1z/-/index.html

Shellie Zimmerman injured in DUI crash in Winter Park
Published On: Dec 27 2013 01:56:19 PM EST   Updated On: Dec 27 2013 02:02:52 PM EST

 ::snipping3::
Shellie Zimmerman was taken to Winter Park Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries after the crash, which occurred around 11:15 a.m. Friday near Aloma and Phelps avenues.

Winter Park police said Zimmerman suffered abrasions from the air bag.  Details about any other possible injuries were not released

A passenger in the car, described as a female friend, was also taken to the hospital.

Details about the crash have not yet been released, but Winter Park police said both vehicles sustained serious damage.

The driver of the other car was arrested on suspicion of DUI.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on December 30, 2013, 09:50:04 AM
GOOD GRIEF ... Y'ALL SEEN THIS?

“Sacrilege” and an “Abomination” … Claremont United Methodist Church in California Replaces Baby Jesus in Nativity Scene with Bloody, Hooded Trayvon Martin (VIDEO)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/12/30/sacrilege-and-an-abomination-claremont-united-methodist-church-in-california-replaces-baby-jesus-in-nativity-scene-with-bloody-hooded-trayvon-martin-video/

Quote
The Claremont United Methodist Church, about 30 miles east of Los Angeles, California, and John Zachary, the individual behind the “artistic interpretation,”  has managed to infuriate many with their depiction of the Nativity scene this Christmas season by replacing the baby Jesus with Trayvon Martin. Yup … because some how I get the two of them confused all off the time. I just have two words, “Sacrilege” and an “Abomination”!!! All in the name of “artistic interpretation” these fools have managed to desecrate the Birth of Christ by replacing the innocence of the Baby Jesus, the son of God, Our Savior with the hoody-wearing, Trayvon Martin, slumped over, shot in the chest with blood pouring out on to the ground. UNREAL. Wow, because some how Trayvon Martin is supposed to symbolize the innocence of a child, really? Who knew the drug using, pot smoking, middle finger displaying, gun carrying, school skipping, gangsta fightin’ thug was so innocent.

One does not even know where to begin here. In the name of “social justice” they would do such sacrilege. But such things are perfectly okay, because while defaming the birth of Christ, there is a liberal message. You can poke others in the eye, but then cry foul when there is an overwhelming negative response. In the past,  Zachary has depicted Mary and Joseph as a modern-day homeless couple; as Mexicans stopped by the U.S.-Mexico border fence; as Iraq War refugees; and in 2010, just Mary by herself, as a black woman in prison with her baby. What, you mean that they have not portrayed Mary and Joseph as Michelle and Barack Obama? Or is that next year?
::snipping3::

The difference between this and the Duck Dynasty controversy is that one was actually referencing scripture, this is just an interpretation meant to provoke people. Not thought provoking ... just plain provoke.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: texasmom on December 31, 2013, 12:59:31 AM
GOOD GRIEF ... Y'ALL SEEN THIS?

“Sacrilege” and an “Abomination” … Claremont United Methodist Church in California Replaces Baby Jesus in Nativity Scene with Bloody, Hooded Trayvon Martin (VIDEO)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/12/30/sacrilege-and-an-abomination-claremont-united-methodist-church-in-california-replaces-baby-jesus-in-nativity-scene-with-bloody-hooded-trayvon-martin-video/

Quote
The Claremont United Methodist Church, about 30 miles east of Los Angeles, California, and John Zachary, the individual behind the “artistic interpretation,”  has managed to infuriate many with their depiction of the Nativity scene this Christmas season by replacing the baby Jesus with Trayvon Martin. Yup … because some how I get the two of them confused all off the time. I just have two words, “Sacrilege” and an “Abomination”!!! All in the name of “artistic interpretation” these fools have managed to desecrate the Birth of Christ by replacing the innocence of the Baby Jesus, the son of God, Our Savior with the hoody-wearing, Trayvon Martin, slumped over, shot in the chest with blood pouring out on to the ground. UNREAL. Wow, because some how Trayvon Martin is supposed to symbolize the innocence of a child, really? Who knew the drug using, pot smoking, middle finger displaying, gun carrying, school skipping, gangsta fightin’ thug was so innocent.

One does not even know where to begin here. In the name of “social justice” they would do such sacrilege. But such things are perfectly okay, because while defaming the birth of Christ, there is a liberal message. You can poke others in the eye, but then cry foul when there is an overwhelming negative response. In the past,  Zachary has depicted Mary and Joseph as a modern-day homeless couple; as Mexicans stopped by the U.S.-Mexico border fence; as Iraq War refugees; and in 2010, just Mary by herself, as a black woman in prison with her baby. What, you mean that they have not portrayed Mary and Joseph as Michelle and Barack Obama? Or is that next year?
::snipping3::

The difference between this and the Duck Dynasty controversy is that one was actually referencing scripture, this is just an interpretation meant to provoke people. Not thought provoking ... just plain provoke.

ITA.  I saw it Red, I was appalled.   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on December 31, 2013, 09:55:46 PM
It was sacrilegious and offensive.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on January 22, 2014, 06:53:56 PM
Video at the link

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-mark-omara-named-criminal-trial-lawyer-of-year-20140122,0,2875580.post

Mark O'Mara named national criminal trial lawyer of year
9:09 a.m. EST, January 22, 2014

More acclaim for Orlando attorney Mark O'Mara. The National Trial Lawyers  named him the national criminal trial lawyer of the year.

O'Mara last year represented George Zimmerman, who was acquitted in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

Gloria Allred received a life achievement award from the National Trial Lawyers group, which is meeting in Miami Beach. O'Mara picked up his prize Monday at the group's awards luncheon.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on January 22, 2014, 07:06:32 PM
A photo of the new painting is at the link.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-new-painting-20140122,0,4332100.story

George Zimmerman's new painting: State Attorney Angela Corey
6:21 p.m. EST, January 22, 2014

The special prosecutor who charged George Zimmerman with second-degree murder in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is the subject of his latest painting, according to a photo posted on Twitter by Zimmerman's brother.

Robert Zimmerman Jr. said details on the sale of Zimmerman's painting of State Attorney Angela Corey would be made available on Thursday. George Zimmerman sold a previous painting on eBay, with a winning bid of $100,099.99.

The new painting is an image of Corey gesturing with her finger and thumb together, under the words "I have this much respect for the American judicial system." The painting is titled "Angie," Robert Zimmerman Jr. tweeted Wednesday.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on January 24, 2014, 01:21:44 PM
He should thank his lucky stars to be a free man.  I would not instigate or make stink, if I were him.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on January 24, 2014, 08:49:50 PM
A photo of the new painting is at the link.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-new-painting-20140122,0,4332100.story

George Zimmerman's new painting: State Attorney Angela Corey
6:21 p.m. EST, January 22, 2014

The special prosecutor who charged George Zimmerman with second-degree murder in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is the subject of his latest painting, according to a photo posted on Twitter by Zimmerman's brother.

Robert Zimmerman Jr. said details on the sale of Zimmerman's painting of State Attorney Angela Corey would be made available on Thursday. George Zimmerman sold a previous painting on eBay, with a winning bid of $100,099.99.

The new painting is an image of Corey gesturing with her finger and thumb together, under the words "I have this much respect for the American judicial system." The painting is titled "Angie," Robert Zimmerman Jr. tweeted Wednesday.
 ::snipping3::




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/24/ap-george-zimmerman-painting-cease-desist_n_4661052.html   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on January 24, 2014, 09:43:39 PM


U.S.
AP Says Zimmerman Painting Is Copy of AP Photo

ORLANDO, Fla. January 24, 2014 (AP)
Associated Press


The Associated Press has demanded that George Zimmerman halt the sale of one of his paintings because the news agency says it directly copies an AP photo.

On Twitter, George Zimmerman wrote Friday evening: "No worries AP, I'll just take whatever U sue me for off your tab when I'm done suing you :-) Or... I could put out how much U offered me 2.."

Responding to Zimmerman's tweet, Colford, the AP spokesman, said: "We don't know what he's talking about."

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ap-zimmerman-painting-copy-ap-photo-21658341


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on January 24, 2014, 11:08:55 PM


 ::monkeywine2:: GZ is not he one (in the world) who is being sued. 

 ::MonkeyEek::

Sculptor sues Postal Service over mistaken Lady Liberty stamp

    By Lisa Rein   
    December 3, 2013 at 9:15 am



The Postal Service chose the image from an online photography service, Getty Images. But it did not acquire the rights to duplicate it from the artist, Robert S. Davidson, probably because postal officials assumed they were issuing a stamp with a famous image [in New York] that already was in the public domain.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2013/12/03/sculptor-sues-u-s-postal-service-says-lady-liberty-stamp-of-his-statue-issued-without-his-permission/


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on January 24, 2014, 11:38:35 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-omara-bar-complaint-ends-20140124,0,4353430.story

Florida Bar: No credible evidence of wrongdoing by Mark O'Mara
7:14 p.m. EST, January 24, 2014

The Florida Bar on Friday closed its investigation into possible wrongdoing by defense attorney Mark O'Mara, saying it found no credible evidence that he knowingly solicited false testimony from George Zimmerman's wife when she told a judge the couple was broke.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on January 30, 2014, 08:30:16 PM
1/30/14  George Zimmerman agrees to celebrity boxing match
   



"Now's your chance to kick George Zimmerman's ass with zero legal repercussions -- he just agreed to a celebrity boxing match ... and he says he'll fight ANYONE ... even black people.

Celebrity boxing promoter Damon Feldman threw down the challenge, offering George money to step in the ring. Now here's the kicker ... the opponent has NOT been selected"

http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/30/george-zimmerman-celebrity-boxing-match/



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on February 02, 2014, 06:30:32 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/02/george-zimmerman-security-on-high-alert-for-celeb-boxing-match/


George Zimmerman Boxing Match
Beefing Up Security We're Afraid For His Life
2/2/2014 12:45 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/02/george-zimmerman-security-on-high-alert-for-celeb-boxing-match/#ixzz2sADqO9nk
George Zimmerman's celebrity boxing match will be held in a secret location FILLED with security --and it's all being done to protect George from vengeful foes.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/02/george-zimmerman-security-on-high-alert-for-celeb-boxing-match/#ixzz2sADwBGYa

 ::monkeywine2:: 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 03, 2014, 10:20:41 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-divorce-fight-20140203,0,1158743.story

Tampa lawyer: George Zimmerman has hired me and we're fighting his divorce
3:30 p.m. EST, February 3, 2014

George Zimmerman is now fighting back in his divorce case.

He's retained a Tampa law firm and is asking a Sanford judge to set aside a default entered against him three weeks ago, according to his new lawyer, Howard Iken of Ayo & Iken.

Zimmerman's estranged wife, Shellie, 26, sued him for divorce Sept. 5. He has yet to file a response.

Iken said that would happen soon.

"The first order of business is to set aside the clerk's order of default," Iken said today.

Iken said George Zimmerman would contest the divorce. He would not comment on his client's finances.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on February 05, 2014, 07:20:38 AM
Tmz has announced the match opponent will be rapper D M X


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: alagary on February 05, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
If Zimmerman wins the internet will break.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 07, 2014, 01:23:53 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-nbc-libel-hearing-20140206,0,5873735.story

Orlando lawyer Mark O'Mara bows out of Zimmerman v. NBC defamation case
5:31 p.m. EST, February 6, 2014

SANFORD — Orlando lawyer Mark O'Mara on Thursday took another step away from his most famous client, George Zimmerman, by bowing out of a defamation suit against NBCUniversal Media.
 ::snipping3::
His defamation suit has sat dormant for 11 months. Both sides agreed last February that they'd do nothing until Zimmerman's criminal case was closed.

Although his criminal trial is over, the case is still technically open. That's because O'Mara and co-counsel Don West asked Circuit Judge Debra Nelson to impose sanctions against prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda, accusing him of hiding evidence and creating delays.

Nelson presides over Zimmerman's defamation case as well. She called Thursday's hearing, saying she'd received a letter from Zimmerman's main defamation lawyer, James Beasley Jr. of Philadelphia, saying there were no pending matters in the criminal case, so it was time to move forward.

O'Mara did not appear in court , but a lawyer from his firm, Lorna Truett, took part by phone. The judge asked if her firm was withdrawing its motion for sanctions, and she said she was unsure. Based on that, the judge ruled the libel case cannot move forward.

The judge removed O'Mara, at his request, as one of Zimmerman's defamation lawyers.

O'Mara's would not say why he was leaving the case but in a prepared statement, called Zimmerman's claim "strong."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: sailcat on February 07, 2014, 09:20:03 AM
If Zimmerman wins the internet will break.

I have my doubts that this fight will ever happen, but if it does, I seriously doubt that Gorgeous George will win. He couldn't handle a scrawny, barely-17-year-old kid in a fight. How will he manage to win against a grown man? If he does win, what will that tell us about his claim that, bless his heart, he had to shoot the big bad teenager to keep from getting himself killed?


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 10, 2014, 10:26:57 PM
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=542207

Mark O'Mara finding new life after the George Zimmerman case
Monday, February 10, 12:12 PM EST

 ::snipping3::
Life after Zimmerman

O’Mara and his practice have benefited from the international exposure the case received.

The practice is getting more and better cases, and he’s adding staff.

He’s a CNN analyst, where he’s talked about cases ranging from Michael Dunn to the death of Philip Seymour Hoffman to cyberbullying.

O’Mara’s added trial consulting work to his practice and he and West have started Justice Outreach, which is aimed at improving the justice system.

And he gets plenty of speaking engagement invitations.

He wishes the best for the man whose case brought him the perils and rewards of this fame. He believes Zimmerman was damaged by the way his case was handled by prosecutors and by the media. “George became a focus point for a racist event that really wasn’t,” O’Mara said.

He’s certain Zimmerman will never have a normal life, despite the acquittal.

And he knows there’s still a lot of anger directed toward Zimmerman, and to a lesser degree, to himself.

“What did I do?” he said. “I represented a guy that was innocent.”


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 12, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-divorce-countersuit-20140212,0,6831442.story

George Zimmerman countersues Shellie for divorce
5:39 p.m. EST, February 12, 2014

SANFORD - George Zimmerman this week countersued his estranged wife, Shellie, for divorce.

What they'll be fighting over: Their two dogs, who pays the divorce lawyers and who pays for the $2.5 million or more in debt they've racked up.

The overwhelming majority of that debt is what George Zimmerman owes criminal defense attorneys Mark O'Mara and Don West.

Zimmerman's divorce countersuit, filed Monday, says that Shellie should be required "to pay all debts incurred by the parties prior to the dissolution of marriage."

It also alleges that Zimmerman doesn't have enough money to pay his divorce lawyer, Erin Duncan of Orlando, but that Shellie does, so she should have to.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 15, 2014, 09:40:38 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-univision-20140215,0,6856007.story

George Zimmerman on Univision: I'm homeless, suffering from PTSD
9:06 p.m. EST, February 15, 2014

George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin, told Spanish-language television network Univision that he is homeless and suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

An English translation of the interview that airs today was released to the media Saturday .
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on February 17, 2014, 02:10:05 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-univision-20140215,0,6856007.story

George Zimmerman on Univision: I'm homeless, suffering from PTSD
9:06 p.m. EST, February 15, 2014

George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin, told Spanish-language television network Univision that he is homeless and suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

An English translation of the interview that airs today was released to the media Saturday .
 ::snipping3::


Lent will soon be here, maybe it time for GZ to shut his piehole.  He was an altar boy when he was a youth, it is time
he get back to his religion.  Soldiers have been through PTS,they encountered far worst that GZ.  He is a boob. :)


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 17, 2014, 11:29:03 PM
Videos of Parts 1 and 2 at the link

http://newday.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/17/george-zimmerman-speaks-out/

February 17th, 2014  04:55 AM ET
Zimmerman: God is 'The Only Judge'

George Zimmerman says he still gets death threats, is still accused of being a racist and is still a lightning rod for criticism.

But in the end, there's only one judge who matters, he told CNN.

"God," Zimmerman said in an interview broadcast on CNN's "New Day" on Monday. "I know that ultimately, he's the only judge that I have to answer to.
 
"He knows what happened. I know what happened. So I'd leave it up to him."

It's been seven months since a Florida jury acquitted Zimmerman of second-degree murder and manslaughter charges in Trayvon Martin's death.

Zimmerman thought his life would go back to normal.

"I was hoping for that," he told Chris Cuomo.

But nearly two years after the night when Zimmerman killed 17-year-old Martin in a Florida subdivision, life is anything but the way it used to be for the 30-year-old former neighborhood watchman.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on February 18, 2014, 10:05:52 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-univision-20140215,0,6856007.story

George Zimmerman on Univision: I'm homeless, suffering from PTSD
9:06 p.m. EST, February 15, 2014

George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin, told Spanish-language television network Univision that he is homeless and suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

An English translation of the interview that airs today was released to the media Saturday .
 ::snipping3::


Lent will soon be here, maybe it time for GZ to shut his piehole.  He was an altar boy when he was a youth, it is time
he get back to his religion.  Soldiers have been through PTS,they encountered far worst that GZ.  He is a boob. :)

He is a victim......   that is the mentality..do not own your actions...blame others..sad shell of man


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on March 04, 2014, 10:06:21 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-zimmerman-gives-up-fight-with-corey-20140304,0,6931564.story

George Zimmerman: I want to quit fighting in court with Angela Corey
9:02 p.m. EST, March 4, 2014

SANFORD — Former Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman says he's done fighting in court with Special Prosecutor Angela Corey.

In paperwork filed at the Seminole County criminal courthouse Feb. 20, Zimmerman says he is giving up his promised fight to make the state pay his legal bills.

He's also wants to put an end to his lawyers' fight with prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda, whom they had asked a judge to punish, alleging unethical behavior, including hiding evidence.

If Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson agrees, that would clear the way for Zimmerman to move forward with his defamation suit against NBCUniversal. A hearing in that case is scheduled Friday.
 ::snipping3::
Defense attorneys Mark O'Mara and Don West also alleged that de la Rionda hid for months information that the state's key witness, a teenage girl who was on the phone with Trayvon just before he was shot, had lied under oath.

The judge postponed the continuation of that hearing until after the trial, and it has never resumed.

In an odd move, Corey's office doesn't want the judge to grant Zimmerman's new request — that she forget about the sanctions. It wants to keep fighting and be declared the winner. A few days after Zimmerman filed his request, Assistant State Attorney Rich Mantei filed paperwork, asking the judge to rule in Corey's favor.

He even offered to present more evidence "to make a complete record and establish the state committed no discovery violations …."

In another legal development involving Zimmerman, a judge has set aside a default entered in favor of his wife, Shellie, in their ongoing divorce.

That means the two sides are back to equal footing as they fight to divide up property but mostly the overwhelming debt they face because of George Zimmerman's legal bills.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on March 11, 2014, 08:58:29 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-zimmerman-parents-sue-roseanne-bar-20140311,0,3636401.story

Zimmerman's parents sue Roseanne Barr over 'vigilante' Twitter comments
5:53 p.m. EDT, March 11, 2014

The parents of George Zimmerman have sued comedienne Roseanne Barr, saying they fled their Lake Mary home in the middle of the night and have been unable to return because she posted their address on Twitter two years ago.

Robert Zimmerman Sr. and Gladys Zimmerman filed suit Monday in state circuit court, accusing Barr of trying to incite "a lynch mob to descend" and carry out "vigilante justice."

According to the suit, Barr published their address on Twitter March 29, 2012, a month after their son George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager in Sanford, but before his arrest. Their son did not live with them, nor did they have anything to do with the shooting, they point out.

It alleges that Barr's tweets forced them to go into hiding. They are seeking unspecified damages, accusing her of intentionally inflicting emotional distress.

They also allege that she violated Twitter's terms and conditions prohibiting publication of addresses and other confidential information. After the first tweet, the suit alleges, Barr followed up with others, including: "If Zimmerman isn't arrested I'll rt (re-tweet) his address again — maybe go 2 his house myself."
 ::snipping3::
 


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on March 19, 2014, 09:56:34 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/3/19/george_zimmerman_dec.html

George Zimmerman: Decision coming on federal civil rights charges
Last Updated: Wednesday, March 19, 2014

WASHINGTON, DC --
George Zimmerman could soon find out if he'll face federal civil rights charges.

The Justice Department is conducting a civil rights investigation in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman was acquitted last year of his murder.

But Wednesday, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Zimmerman could still face federal charges in the case, and hinted that decision could come soon.

"We are still in the process of doing the kinds of investigative things and analysis that are necessary before we can make the determination," Holder said. "So that matter's ongoing."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 02, 2014, 11:09:57 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/05/01/nbc-seeks-dismissal-of-zimmerman-suit-over-911-tape-edits/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/05/01/nbc-seeks-dismissal-of-zimmerman-suit-over-911-tape-edits/)

NBC seeks dismissal of Zimmerman suit over 911 tape edits
May 1 at 3:30 pm

Lawyers for NBC News in March urged a Florida circuit court to dismiss the defamation suit filed in December 2012 by George Zimmerman, who was acquitted last July of second-degree murder in the Trayvon Martin case. The suit centers on NBC News broadcasts that misportrayed a 911 call placed by Zimmerman on Feb. 26, 2012, as the neighborhood watchman pursued Martin through a Sanford, Fla., subdivision. Edits to the tape made it sound as if Zimmerman had volunteered a comment that Martin is black, when in fact the dispatcher had asked him whether Zimmerman was “white, black or Hispanic?” Another contention in the complaint was that NBC News had knowingly reported the false claim that Zimmerman had uttered a “racial epithet” in the 911 call.

The case was stayed for about a year in deference to Zimmerman’s criminal trial, but motions are now flying back and forth between the parties.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on May 03, 2014, 08:01:35 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/05/01/nbc-seeks-dismissal-of-zimmerman-suit-over-911-tape-edits/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/05/01/nbc-seeks-dismissal-of-zimmerman-suit-over-911-tape-edits/)

NBC seeks dismissal of Zimmerman suit over 911 tape edits
May 1 at 3:30 pm

Lawyers for NBC News in March urged a Florida circuit court to dismiss the defamation suit filed in December 2012 by George Zimmerman, who was acquitted last July of second-degree murder in the Trayvon Martin case. The suit centers on NBC News broadcasts that misportrayed a 911 call placed by Zimmerman on Feb. 26, 2012, as the neighborhood watchman pursued Martin through a Sanford, Fla., subdivision. Edits to the tape made it sound as if Zimmerman had volunteered a comment that Martin is black, when in fact the dispatcher had asked him whether Zimmerman was “white, black or Hispanic?” Another contention in the complaint was that NBC News had knowingly reported the false claim that Zimmerman had uttered a “racial epithet” in the 911 call.

The case was stayed for about a year in deference to Zimmerman’s criminal trial, but motions are now flying back and forth between the parties.
 ::snipping3::




I don't believe this defamation suit should be dismissed.  NBC and other media outlets need to be held accountable when they do things like this.  JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on May 22, 2014, 10:21:41 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/05/01/nbc-seeks-dismissal-of-zimmerman-suit-over-911-tape-edits/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/05/01/nbc-seeks-dismissal-of-zimmerman-suit-over-911-tape-edits/)

NBC seeks dismissal of Zimmerman suit over 911 tape edits
May 1 at 3:30 pm

Lawyers for NBC News in March urged a Florida circuit court to dismiss the defamation suit filed in December 2012 by George Zimmerman, who was acquitted last July of second-degree murder in the Trayvon Martin case. The suit centers on NBC News broadcasts that misportrayed a 911 call placed by Zimmerman on Feb. 26, 2012, as the neighborhood watchman pursued Martin through a Sanford, Fla., subdivision. Edits to the tape made it sound as if Zimmerman had volunteered a comment that Martin is black, when in fact the dispatcher had asked him whether Zimmerman was “white, black or Hispanic?” Another contention in the complaint was that NBC News had knowingly reported the false claim that Zimmerman had uttered a “racial epithet” in the 911 call.

The case was stayed for about a year in deference to Zimmerman’s criminal trial, but motions are now flying back and forth between the parties.
 ::snipping3::




I don't believe this defamation suit should be dismissed.  NBC and other media outlets need to be held accountable when they do things like this.  JMHO

 ::rhino::

it is sad the news outlets cannot be trusted to give the news anymore.
The day of Walter Cronkite are long gone!


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 08, 2014, 12:03:51 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-anniversary-20140607,0,7027040.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-anniversary-20140607,0,7027040.story)

One year later, where are players in George Zimmerman trial?
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
2:59 p.m. EDT, June 7, 2014

 ::snipping3::
George Zimmerman

Life after the acquittal has been turbulent for Zimmerman, who's now 30. He moves among the homes of people who let him sleep on the couch, said his brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr. He's jobless and has been arrested once, accused of threatening his girlfriend with a gun, and put in handcuffs another time, accused of punching his father-in-law.

In both cases, authorities filed no criminal charges.

He left his wife, Shellie, a month after the trial and is in the midst of a divorce. He owes defense attorneys Mark O'Mara and Don West $2.5 million. He has sold paintings on eBay and toyed with but rejected the idea of taking part in a pay-per-view boxing match with rap artist DMX.

In a Spanish-language interview in February, Zimmerman told Univision that he suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder.

"I think his state of mind is better," said his brother, "but I would submit that he is a very traumatized person because he has had his liberty taken away from him."

Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson

After the five-week trial and verdict, Nelson, 60, took two days off and then went back to work, hearing civil and divorce cases in Sanford.

She has not commented publicly about the Zimmerman trial and is overseeing his defamation case against NBCUniversal Media LLC. Zimmerman sued the company 10 months after the shooting, accusing it of falsely reporting that he used a racial slur while talking to a police dispatcher the night of the shooting.

Nelson will preside over a hearing next week on NBC's request to dismiss the suit.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara

The trial made O'Mara, 58, of Orlando a familiar name. He sold a boat and a car and got a business loan during the trial to cover expenses, he said Thursday, and is not yet financially whole. But the trial allowed him to expand his practice and won him a contract providing legal commentary on CNN.

His firm used to have five employees. Now there are 11, including someone in charge of media and marketing. He's also raised his hourly rate from $400 to $525.

O'Mara's greatest satisfaction, he said, is that he now speaks to bar associations and law schools and teaches attorneys what he's learned about the media, high-profile cases and social media.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 09, 2014, 08:36:09 PM
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2014/jun/09/nbc-to-argue-for-dismissal-of-zimmerman-lawsuit/ (http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2014/jun/09/nbc-to-argue-for-dismissal-of-zimmerman-lawsuit/)

NBC to argue for dismissal of George Zimmerman lawsuit
Posted June 9, 2014 at 4:07 p.m.

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — The judge in  George Zimmerman's defamation lawsuit against NBC Universal is set to hear arguments on a request by the media company to dismiss the case.

A hearing has been set for June 19. The case had been postponed pending the conclusion of the Trayvon Martin shooting case. Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder last July.
 ::snipping3::
NBC Universal said in a court filing that Zimmerman failed to comply with Florida's statute regarding retraction requests after the March 2012 broadcasts at issue. It also argued that the harms Zimmerman allegedly suffered weren't caused by the broadcasts.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 10, 2014, 08:06:48 AM
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2014/jun/09/nbc-to-argue-for-dismissal-of-zimmerman-lawsuit/ (http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2014/jun/09/nbc-to-argue-for-dismissal-of-zimmerman-lawsuit/)

NBC to argue for dismissal of George Zimmerman lawsuit
Posted June 9, 2014 at 4:07 p.m.

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — The judge in  George Zimmerman's defamation lawsuit against NBC Universal is set to hear arguments on a request by the media company to dismiss the case.

A hearing has been set for June 19. The case had been postponed pending the conclusion of the Trayvon Martin shooting case. Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder last July.
 ::snipping3::
NBC Universal said in a court filing that Zimmerman failed to comply with Florida's statute regarding retraction requests after the March 2012 broadcasts at issue. It also argued that the harms Zimmerman allegedly suffered weren't caused by the broadcasts.



I don't know about the first part about Zimmerman's failure to comply with Florida's statute, but )my bold) I believe NBC's editing and then releasing the broadcast certainly caused not only Zimmerman to suffer harm, but also his parents, who had to move and go into hiding.  The broadcasts inflamed some of the public, and there are those still today that don't know the broadcasts were edited.  NBC should take responsibility for what they did.  It wasn't an error or something overlooked.  It was done with them knowing full well what they were releasing, which were lies. 
My view isn't so much defending Zimmerman for what he did or didn't do, but it just isn't right for the news to be manipulated like this.  I believe it affected a lot of people's views.
JMHO


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2014, 10:39:20 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/judge-to-hear-arguments-in-george-zimmermannbc-case/26565004 (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/judge-to-hear-arguments-in-george-zimmermannbc-case/26565004)

Judge to hear arguments in George Zimmerman-NBC case
Published On: Jun 19 2014 06:26:21 AM EDT   Updated  1 h

SANFORD, Fla. - 
A judge will listen to arguments over whether George Zimmerman's defamation lawsuit against NBC Universal should be thrown out.

Attorneys for NBC will argue Thursday that the case should be dismissed since Zimmerman failed to follow Florida's retraction statute, and he wasn't harmed by the reports.
 ::snipping3::
Zimmerman's attorneys argue they haven't even had time to interview witnesses. They say pretrial depositions will support his claims that NBC's broadcasts were false and reckless.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
June 19, 2014 Tweets
https://twitter.com/SheliMuniz

Sheli Muniz @SheliMuniz      ·   31m   
NBC: There was no actual malice when network aired edited Zimmerman 911 call. It was a rational interpretation of recording.

Sheli Muniz @SheliMuniz     ·   34m   
NBC: George Zimmerman is a public figure. Comparing him to Richard Jewell (remember him? falsely accused of Olympic bombing in '96)

Sheli Muniz @SheliMuniz     ·   38m   
NBC: race controversy surrounding Trayvon Martin's death predated NBC broadcast in 2012 where they apparently botched editing of 911 call

Sheli Muniz @SheliMuniz     ·   46m   
NBC counsel about to argue why case should be thrown out re: 911 calls that George Zimmerman felt defamed him.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqf7D0UCEAAofvS.jpg:large)


Sheli Muniz @SheliMuniz     ·   56m   
Zimmerman vs. NBC Universal case has just been called. Zimmerman not here.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2014, 10:59:53 AM
June 19, 2014 Tweets
https://twitter.com/SheliMuniz

Sheli Muniz @SheliMuniz      ·   2m   
Judge Debra Nelson: Deferring  decision on dropping defamation case (Zimmerman vs NBC). Zimmerman atty on how Zimmerman is doing: "terrible"

Sheli Muniz @SheliMuniz     ·   21m   
Zimmerman atty: NBC's reckless reporting of 911 call from night Trayvon Martin killed resulted in terminations (NBC fired at least 2)

Sheli Muniz @SheliMuniz     ·   29m   
Zimmerman atty: complaint - NBC manipulated 911 call to make it seem like he was chasing Trayvon Martin bc of color. pic.twitter.com/zaXHSCbLNF


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2014, 11:14:59 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-nbc-lawsuit-20140619,0,5211694.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-nbc-lawsuit-20140619,0,5211694.story)

Judge throws out part of Zimmerman libel case against NBC
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
11:03 a.m. EDT, June 19, 2014

SANFORD – A judge this morning threw out part of George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC Universal and held out the prospect that she may throw out the whole thing.

Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson tossed the allegations related to one of four broadcast and said she needs to do more homework before deciding about the other three.

Zimmerman is suing the media company, alleging he was falsely portrayed as a racist.
 ::snipping3::
The suit also says Zimmerman should be paid damages because the company falsely reported that during that call, Zimmerman used a racial epithet.

In their response, NBC's attorneys contend that Zimmerman has no valid claim.

The most important point, they say, is that Zimmerman was a public figure and cannot prove that NBC employees acted with "actual malice".

That means that they either knew what they said was false or had grave misgivings about its truthfulness.

The phrase that NBC employees interpreted as a racial slur, an NBC attorney said, was "very difficult to understand or decipher."

And other news organizations reported that same thing, he said.

As for the editing, the network should not be held liable for reporting truthfully what Zimmerman's actually said, NBC's attorney said.

Other news organizations also used excerpts of that tape, he said.

The hearing started shortly after 10 a.m. and concluded shortly before 11 a.m.

Zimmerman did not attend.

NBC's attorneys raised several defenses, some of them technical. They contend that any harm Zimmerman claims to have suffered were not caused by the specific NBC news reports that are at issue.

Zimmerman's attorney, James Beasley Jr., told the judge it would be a mistake to throw out the case now before he can gather evidence.

He pointed out that an NBC executive apologized for the edits and that two employees were either fired or disciplined.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2014, 11:26:07 AM
http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/6/19/george_zimmerman_law.html (http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/6/19/george_zimmerman_law.html)

No ruling issued in George Zimmerman's defamation lawsuit against NBC
By Jeff Allen and Natalie Tolomeo, Team Coverage
Last Updated: Thursday, June 19, 2014, 11:22 AM

SANFORD --
George Zimmerman’s defamation lawsuit against NBC Universal was back in a Seminole County courtroom.

Judge Debra Nelson, who presided over Zimmerman's murder trial, heard arguments from both sides Thursday.

NBC's attorneys argued Zimmerman is a public figure. Therefore, the First Amendment protects the network from his defamation claims.

Meanwhile, Zimmerman's lawyer countered NBC's argument, calling the issue reckless reporting.

Zimmerman filed the lawsuit against NBC in 2012, claiming NBC aired edited versions of the 911 call he made right before he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The network actually ended up firing three producers.

The hearing was previously postponed because the judge wanted to wait until after Zimmerman’s murder trial finished.

Attorneys for NBC said they believe the lawsuit should be tossed out because Zimmerman did not meet Florida state law retraction requirements.

NBC’s lawyers also said the harms Zimmerman said he's suffered were not because of the broadcasted 911 call on NBC.

On the website Zimmerman’s attorneys set up for this lawsuit, attorneys for the former neighborhood watchman said “NBC News saw the death of Trayvon Martin not as a tragedy but as an opportunity to increase ratings..."

The hearing ended with Nelson reserving judgment. She will issue a written ruling in the coming weeks.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/judge-hear-arguments-zimmerman-nbc-case/ngNxY/ (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/judge-hear-arguments-zimmerman-nbc-case/ngNxY/)

Posted: 7:51 a.m. Thursday, June 19, 2014
Part of George Zimmerman defamation lawsuit dismissed

A judge has dismissed part of a lawsuit against NBC Universal that claims the television network defamed George Zimmerman's reputation.

Thursday's decision puts the entire lawsuit in jeopardy.

Seminole County Circuit Judge Debra Nelson ruled that Zimmerman's attorney waited too long under Florida statute to ask NBC to retract the information from the March 19, 2012 broadcast.
 ::snipping3::
Three other NBC broadcasts are still in question.

The case had been postponed pending the conclusion of Zimmerman's murder trial in July 2013. He was acquitted of second-degree murder in the death of Miami teenager Trayvon Martin.

After the hearing, WFTV asked Zimmerman's lawyer about how Zimmerman is doing.

"Terrible. How would you be doing? He's in hiding. What else is he going to do? He can't get a job," Zimmerman's attorney Jim Beasley said.

Nelson said she'll decide whether to dismiss Zimmerman's lawsuit against NBC either in the next week or in about a month when she gets back from vacation.



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2014, 02:55:58 PM
June 19, 2014 Tweets
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   4h   
Judge reserves ruling on dismissing lawsuit. #Zimmerman

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   4h   
#Zimmerman says NBC took his statements out of context which changed the meaning of Zimmerman's statements to the 911 dispatcher.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   4h   
#Zimmerman says NBC fired employees and apologized to viewers over the stories at issue in the lawsuit.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   4h   
#Zimmerman says NBC manipulated the 911 call to portray Zimmerman as targeting Martin because of his race.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   4h   
NBC says it made clear that it was airing only excerpts of the 911 call in its followup stories about the deadly shooting. #Zimmerman

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   4h   
NBC says its story about whether #Zimmerman used a racial slur during an unclear segment of the 911 call was rational.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   4h   
NBC says as a public figure #Zimmerman must prove malice to prevail in the defamation suit.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV      ·   5h   
NBC says #Zimmerman thrust himself into the public eye before the shooting on issues of race and public safety making him a public figure.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   5h   
NBC is arguing now that it has the right to ask the judge to dismiss the suit before #Zimmerman starts collecting evidence.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   5h   
Zimmerman claimed self defense and was acquitted last year after his second degree murder trial. Martin's family was heartbroken.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   5h   
George Zimmerman was eventually charged with second degree murder for shooting and killing 17-year-old Trayvon Martin during a fight.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   5h   
NBC says it fairly and accurately reported the story and wants the judge to throw out the lawsuit.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   5h   
Zimmerman says when NBC cut out the 911 dispatcher's question about race it made Zimmerman's answer, "He looks black.", appear as racism.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   5h   
Zimmerman is not in court and is not expected. The same circuit judge who presided over his murder trial is hearing the defamation case.

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV     ·   5h   
This morning, NBC Universal will try to convince a Seminole County circuit judge to throw out George Zimmerman's defamation lawsuit.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on June 25, 2014, 01:53:06 PM
If NBC fairly and accurately reported the story, then . . . I am a tall, natural red-head, with lots of $$$$$.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 26, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-nbc-affidavits-20140626,0,4632133.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-nbc-affidavits-20140626,0,4632133.story)

Zimmerman to judge: Don't kill my libel suit against NBC
12:30 p.m. EDT, June 26, 2014

SANFORD – In his attempt to win a libel suit against NBC Universal Media, George Zimmerman's civil attorney wants records about the Rev. Al Sharpton, according to new court pleadings. Same for Angela Corey.
 ::snipping3::
In paperwork filed Friday, Beasley disclosed some of the people he intends to press for information or whose communication records he plans to seek.

They include Sharpton and Corey, the Jacksonville state attorney who served as special prosecutor in Zimmerman's murder case.

He was acquitted of second-degree murder by a Seminole County jury on July 13.

Beasley also disclosed that he intends to press for communications from several NBC news employees and executives, including Phil Griffin, president of MSNBC.

Sharpton, who has a show in MSNBC, was one of Zimmerman's harshest critics and traveled to Sanford, calling for his arrest.

Zimmerman also filed an affidavit in the case Friday, explaining to Nelson why she should rule in his favor.

"We need to take discovery and have not yet had any opportunity to do so," his affidavit reads. "I believe pretrial discovery, including depositions, will support my claims the defendants' broadcasts were false and outrageous."

In his affidavit, he also accuses NBC of editing his 911 call to a police dispatcher in a way that "caused me to be identified as a racist stalker."



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 27, 2014, 07:21:37 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-finances-20140627,0,7683811.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-finances-20140627,0,7683811.story)

George Zimmerman divorce records: I've got no home, no job and spend $100 a month on vacations
4:32 p.m. EDT, June 27, 2014

 ::snipping3::
As part of the divorce case, Zimmerman filed a financial affidavit last week, spelling out his income, assets and debts.

According to it, he spends $3,304 a month, despite having no income.

He listed his total assets at $14,000 – most of that is his 2008 Honda pickup. His debts total $2.5 million, most of that is money he owes criminal defense attorneys Mark O'Mara and Don West.

According to his paperwork, Zimmerman has no job, pays nothing for rent or a mortgage and has no health insurance.

He spends $350 a month for medical care plus $200 a month for psychological, psychiatric or mental health counseling.

He also spends $100 a month on vacations, he wrote.

Zimmerman's legal defense fund, which raised more than $400,000, now has a balance of $300, according to the affidavit.

It is not clear what happened to any money he earned from the sale of a painting on eBay in December. The winning bid was $100,000. There is no mention of it in his affidavit.

His banking account has $650, he reported.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on June 30, 2014, 11:14:37 AM
not a GZ fan but what NBC did to him was plain wrong and he should be given his day in court...again


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 30, 2014, 11:43:15 AM
not a GZ fan but what NBC did to him was plain wrong and he should be given his day in court...again

 ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 30, 2014, 12:11:44 PM
Not a Zimmerman fan either, but I don't agree with the judge.  I remember very well when this happened, and I remember all the hate and anger that was in the comments of articles and I remember articles that went on about this.  Even though it was later shown NBC edited out the dispatchers question, there are still people to this day that believe the edited edition is the true one.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I believe the editing by NBC caused a backlash of anger and hate.  JMHO

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/national/judge-rules-against-george-zimmerman-defamation-su/ngWfy/
Judge rules against George Zimmerman in defamation suit
June 30, 2014

SANFORD, Fla. — A judge ruled Monday against George Zimmerman in a defamation lawsuit he filed against NBC regarding 911 calls made after Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in 2012.
Earlier this month, Seminole County Circuit Judge Debra Nelson dismissed one of the five broadcasts in question, ruling Zimmerman's attorney waited too long under Florida statute to ask NBC to retract the information from the March 19, 2012, broadcast.
Nearly a year ago, it was in Nelson's courtroom Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder in the shooting death of 17-year-old Martin.
Lawyers claimed in a letter sent in December 2012 that NBC edited Zimmerman's 911 call the night of the shooting to make it sound like the former neighborhood watch volunteer was a racist.

In the call, Zimmerman did not mention Martin's race until a dispatcher asked.
"OK, and this guy, is he white, black or Hispanic?" the dispatcher asked.
"He looks black," Zimmerman replied.
But in a series of reports on NBC in March 2012, the dispatcher's question was edited out, which Zimmerman said made it appear as though he was suspicious of Martin only because the teenager was black.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 01, 2014, 06:34:01 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/07/01/george-zimmermans-lawyer-vows-appeal-in-suit-against-nbc/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/07/01/george-zimmermans-lawyer-vows-appeal-in-suit-against-nbc/)

George Zimmerman’s lawyer vows appeal in suit against NBC
July 1 at 4:43 PM

The lawyer in George Zimmerman’s defamation suit is vowing to appeal the ruling of a Florida judge who yesterday tossed the litigation from her courtroom. Judge Debra S. Nelson wrote that Zimmerman “shall take nothing by this suit” even though NBC News in multiple broadcasts had shortened a police call in a way that inaccurately depicted Zimmerman as volunteering racial information about Trayvon Martin on the night of their fatal encounter in February 2012.

“We obviously disagree with the judge,” says James Beasley, Zimmerman’s Philadelphia-based attorney. “We understand she has her position and we respect it, but we obviously disagree.” An appeal is coming. Nelson is the same judge who presided over Zimmerman’s 2013 criminal trial, in which he was acquitted of second-degree murder.
 ::snipping3::
Beasley would like a chance to contest Nelson’s notion of Zimmerman’s public figureness. “The nature and extent of his thrusting himself into this as opposed to NBC thrusting him into this is a fundamental question,” says Beasley.

Though courts and lawyers can argue ad nauseam about who’s a public figure, there’s one component of the Nelson ruling that’ll be harder to counter, and it relates to the progression of the Zimmerman-Martin story. In Nelson’s words: “The undisputed evidence shows negative publicity was directed at Zimmerman by the Martin family’s lawyer, by civil rights activists, and by a litany of news media entities well before the non-emergency call was released to the public and before NBC broadcast any of the news reports at issue.”

Or, this was a media circus from the start.

Beasley didn’t sound too worried. He noted that NBC News’s journalistic errors vis-a-vis Zimmerman were so grave as to warrant firing two staffers. “This coverage got universal criticism,” said Beasley. “Every one of these libel cases are all 15 rounders.”


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 24, 2014, 09:36:50 PM
http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/7/24/zimmerman_nbc_appeal.html

George Zimmerman appeals NBC ruling in defamation case
Last Updated: Thursday, July 24, 2014, 3:18 PM

SANFORD --
George Zimmerman is appealing a court ruling that NBC did not defame him in airing an edited 911 call made before his scuffle with Trayvon Martin.

Records from the Seminole County Clerk of Courts show a notice of appeal in the civil case, dated Tuesday, July 22.
 ::snipping3::

http://seminoleclerk.org/CivilDocket/case_detail.jsp?CaseNo=2012CA006178

Detailed Information for Case 2012CA006178

Case Number:
2012CA006178
Judge:
JESSICA J. RECKSIEDLER

Date Filed:
12/06/2012
Case Type:
OTHER-LIBEL/SLANDER

Plantiffs:
◾ZIMMERMAN GEORGE

Defendants:
◾ALLEN RON
◾BURNSIDE JEFF
◾LUCIANO LILIA RODRIGUEZ
◾NBC UNIVERSAL MEDIA L L C
  ::snipping3::

In 2012, this judge was assigned to the State vs Zimmerman trial but recused herself from the case to avoid a conflict.   

http://seminolecountyjudges.com/judge-jessica-j.-recksiedler.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 24, 2014, 10:21:41 PM
I'm not a fan of George Zimmerman, but I do believe he was defamed by NBC.  I believe NBC should be held accountable for editing the tapes in such a way to change the actual content and intent.  There are still folks out there that believe the NBC version.  I think it was inflammatory.  JMHO



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 26, 2014, 09:34:20 PM
http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/07/as-expected-zimmerman-appeals-judge-nelsons-dismissal-of-suit-against-nbc/

George Zimmerman Appeals Dismissal of Defamation Suit Against NBC
Posted by Andrew Branca      Saturday, July 26, 2014 at 11:15am

[Clarification (7/26/14): I've just been informed by a knowledgeable person on the Zimmerman side of this case that what was submitted to the 5th DCA this past Friday is the official notice of appeal.  The actual appeal has not yet been submitted.]

As anticipated by, well, everybody, George Zimmerman’s civil lawyer, James Beasley Jr., has filed an appeal with Florida’s Fifth District Court of Appeals (5th DCA) of the dismissal by June Debra Nelson of Zimmerman’s defamation suit against NBC broadcasting.  This is per reports by Orlando’s WKMG and the Orlando Sentinel.

We previously covered Judge Nelson’s dismissal of the suit here at Legal Insurrection, Zimmerman Libel Suit Against NBC Thrown Out, including the full text of her order.

The basis of the defamation claim is that NBC made Zimmerman appear racist by doctoring a 911 recording so as to make it appear that Zimmerman made an unsolicited identification of Trayvon Martin’s race.

In fact, Zimmerman was explicitly asked about Martin’s race by the police dispatcher, thus triggering his observation that “he looks black.”  It is this explicit dispatcher request which was cut out of the doctored version of the recording aired repeatedly by NBC.

Whether Zimmerman had a history of racism was key to the State’s effort to convict him of second degree murder, which under Florida law requires some degree of malice. The State had hoped to use evidence of racism as that malice “hook.”

In the event, no evidence of racism was found despite dozens of FBI interviews made of Zimmerman’s friends and neighbors, including an ex-fiance with whom Zimmerman had previous legal difficulties and presumably had no interest in lying in his favor. Indeed several of Zimmerman’s neighbors and acquaintances appeared in court–as State witnesses!–and testified favorably about his character.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on July 29, 2014, 09:01:18 AM
I'm not a fan of George Zimmerman, but I do believe he was defamed by NBC.  I believe NBC should be held accountable for editing the tapes in such a way to change the actual content and intent.  There are still folks out there that believe the NBC version.  I think it was inflammatory.  JMHO



I feel the same way Muffy  ::bee::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 12, 2014, 09:16:38 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/8/12/zimmerman_trial_medi.html

Zimmerman trial medical examiner: Prosecution wanted to lose
Last Updated: Tuesday, August 12, 2014

Dr. Shiping Bao was the medical examiner who did the autopsy on Trayvon Martin’s body, and he was one of the state’s main expert witnesses at last year’s George Zimmerman trial.

The Seminole/Volusia County Medical Examiner’s office fired Dr. Bao one month after the trial.  Now, in a new 37-page book, called “Dead Men Can’t Lie,” Dr. Bao said he wants to set the record straight. He claims Sanford Police didn’t properly preserve evidence.

He writes:

“... I was purposely not given the chance to present some extremely important evidence that could very well have affected the outcome.”

Zimmerman’s defense attorney Don West asked him about that during the trial, to create reasonable doubt in the jurors’ minds.

And in his book, Dr. Bao writes: 

“It was mistakes like this that helped the defense win the case in the George Zimmerman trial.”

News 13 Legal Analyst Mark NeJame says Bao’s testimony actually helped the defense.

“It was some of the worst testimony I’ve ever seen in my 30-plus years as a trial attorney,” said NeJame, with NeJame Law.
 ::snipping3::
Dr. Bao said he has been questioned this summer by the U.S. Department of Justice in their investigation into whether George Zimmerman violated Trayvon Martin’s civil rights when he shot Martin in February 2012.  But Bao said that’s not a question he’s qualified to answer.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 04, 2014, 09:33:44 PM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2014/09/feds-george-zimmermantrayvon-martin-probe-rolls-on-194918.html

Feds' George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin probe rolls on
9/4/14 7:41 PM EDT

Attorney General Eric Holder acknowledged Thursday that even as his department has been opening new investigations stemming from the racially-charged shooting death of African-American teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. last month, federal prosecutors have still not concluded a long-pending probe into the shooting death of another black teen, Trayvon Martin, in Florida in 2012.

Last November, Holder told the Washington Post he expected a conclusion "relatively soon" to the probe into the shooting of Martin by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman. In July 2013, a Florida jury acquitted Zimmerman was acquitted of murder. Holder promptly announced that the Justice Department would probe the case to see if prosecution on federal charges was warranted.

But at a press conference Thursday to announce a broadening of federal inquiries into police activities in Ferguson, Holder said the Florida case remained under active investigation nearly ten months after he said it was concluding. In his latest comments, the attorney general did not predict when the Zimmerman-Martin probe might conclude.

"That matter is ongoing. There are active steps that we are still in the process of taking," Holder told journalists. "There are witnesses who we want to speak to as a result of some recent developments.... that matter is still underway."

Holder did not say what "recent developments" prosecutors were exploring, but Zimmerman has had several brushes with the law since the shooting two years ago.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 01, 2014, 11:17:16 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/george-zimmerman-not-expected-to-face-civil-rights-charges-in-trayvon-martin-death/2014/10/01/4cd2ebd2-498e-11e4-a046-120a8a855cca_story.html

George Zimmerman not expected to face civil rights charges in Trayvon Martin death
October 1 at 6:36 PM

The Justice Department is not expected to bring civil rights charges against George Zimmerman in the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin, according to three law enforcement officials, despite allegations that the killing was racially motivated.

The federal investigation of Zimmerman was opened two years ago by the department’s civil rights division, but officials said there is insufficient evidence to bring federal charges. The investigation technically remains open, but it is all but certain the department will close it.

Investigators still want to “dot their i’s and cross their t’s,” said one official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to comment on the matter.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 30, 2014, 07:55:50 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-george-zimmerman-civil-rights-grand-jury-20141030-story.html

Grand jury meeting in civil-rights case involving George Zimmerman
October 30, 2014, 3:33 PM

A federal grand jury will meet in downtown Orlando Wednesday to hear testimony about whether Trayvon Martin's civil rights were violated when Neighborhood Watch volunteer George Zimmerman shot him in the chest, according to court paperwork..

A U.S. Department of Justice attorney from Washington, D.C., Mark Blumberg, has issued at least one subpoena for Wednesday in the case.

Blumberg would not comment on the grand jury session, but the federal panel is to meet at 9 a.m. at the federal courts building on Central Avenue in downtown Orlando to hear evidence in the case.

It's not clear how many witnesses have been ordered to appear, but at least one, Frank Taaffe, Zimmerman's former neighbor and longtime defender, has been.

Following Zimmerman's acquittal on a murder charge, Taaffe has reversed his position and now says that he believes Zimmerman was motivated by race the night he followed then shot Trayvon in 2012.
 ::snipping3::
Last month, the Washington Post cited three unnamed law enforcement officials as saying there would likely be no federal charges brought against Zimmerman because of insufficient evidence.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 05, 2014, 06:08:04 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-george-zimmerman-federal-grand-jury-20141105-story.html

Federal grand jury meets in Orlando; no sign of Zimmerman witnesses
November 5, 2014, 4:55 PM

An Orlando federal grand jury was in session Wednesday but there was no indication during its morning session that it heard evidence in the George Zimmerman civil rights case..

A Department of Justice civil rights attorney from Washington, D.C., Mark Blumberg, subpoenaed at least one person to appear at 9 a.m. Wednesday in that case: Frank Taaffe, Zimmerman's former neighbor and until a few months ago, his defender.

But Taaffe did not appear in the public portions of the Orlando federal courts building Wednesday morning, and he did not exit the hallway used by the grand jury when it took a break about 11:30 a.m.

Neither did anyone else known to have ties to Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old black teenager he killed Feb. 26, 2012, in Sanford.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on November 12, 2014, 03:32:56 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-george-zimmerman-grand-jury-testimony-20141112-story.html

Former Zimmerman supporter appears for grand jury testimony
November 12, 2014, 2:58 PM

Once George Zimmerman's vocal defender, Frank Taaffe said Wednesday that he wanted to "make amends" with the family of Trayvon Martin by testifying for a federal grand jury convened in downtown Orlando..
 ::snipping3::
Taaffe said he expected to testify about a phone call days before Zimmerman's arrest from someone who claimed to be Zimmerman and made a "racial comment" about the case, Taaffe said.

He said the call came from an unknown number, so he couldn't be 100 percent sure it was Zimmerman.

Taaffe said FBI agents also have asked him about comments he made while Zimmerman's jury was deliberating. Taaffe claimed to have been tipped off about the jury's discussions, which are supposed to be secret.

The Washington Post recently reported federal charges against Zimmerman are unlikely.

Pressed on his motivation to testify, Taaffe said he has a daughter in the U.S. Marine Corps who was ostracized due to his role as Zimmerman's primary supporter. It damaged their relationship, he said.

"I miss her and I love her," said Taaffe, who wore photos of his deceased sons on a lanyard around his neck. "She's my only child I've got left."


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Blonde on November 14, 2014, 03:42:23 PM

Posted in: News Posted: November 14, 2014
George Zimmerman Supporter Changes Mind, ‘Trayvon Targeted For Race’

Friend and former neighbor Frank Taaffe is testifying against George Zimmerman before a grand jury that will decide if Zimmerman is guilty of violating Trayvon Marton’s civil rights. Despite once defending him on national TV, Taaffe now believes that Zimmerman went after teenage Martin because he was black.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, Frank alleges that a man claiming to be George Zimmerman called him and told him a “racial comment” that was disparaging to Travon Martin before being arrested for the shooting. The former neighbor wouldn’t disclose exactly what the man said outside the courtroom other than it was racist.

He didn’t testify in the earlier court case where Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder charges, believing that the call was just a prank. ::snipping3::





Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1609070/george-zimmerman-supporter-changes-mind-trayvon-targeted-for-race/#3gu78h4aPocfeG5W.99


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on January 10, 2015, 11:26:18 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-arrested-on-aggravated-assault-charge/30630156

Published On: Jan 10 2015 07:36:52 AM EST   Updated  12 m

 

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. -
George Zimmerman has been arrested in Seminole County.

A representative for the Seminole County Sheriff's Office tells Local 6 Zimmerman was booked into the jail around 10 p.m. Friday on a charge of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

 The incident apparently occurred several days ago at a home in Lake Mary.
 ::snipping3::
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: seahorse on January 10, 2015, 11:27:43 AM


 

George Zimmerman ARRESTED for Wine Bottle Assault Against GF


 ::monkeywine2::

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/10/george-zimmerman-arrested-domestic-violence-assault-weapon/#ixzz3ORDY1dvL

8:33 AM PST --  Zimmerman just appeared in court, and now we know he was arrested for allegedly throwing a wine bottle at his girlfriend.  He's been ordered to surrender all firearms and bond was set at $5K. 

And get this ... Zimmerman laughed and joked with a bailiff as he signed court docs.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/10/george-zimmerman-arrested-domestic-violence-assault-weapon/#ixzz3ORD930Eb


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on January 10, 2015, 11:44:58 AM
George Zimmerman Arrested and Charged with Domestic Violence in Lake Mary, FL

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2015/01/10/george-zimmerman-arrested-and-charged-with-domestic-violence-in-lake-mary-fl/

WHAT A SURPRISE THAT GEORGE ZIMMERMAN FINDS HIMSELF IN TROUBLE AGAIN … THIS IS ZIMMERMAN’S THIRD ARREST IN RECENT YEARS.

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31 year old George Zimmerman finds himself in trouble with the law again, this time he was arrested and booked Friday night for aggravated assault and domestic violence with a weapon in  Lake Mary, Florida. A Seminole County judge set Zimmerman’s bond at $5,000, prohibited him from any contact with the victim, returning to her home or entering Volusia County and must surrender all fire arms. What are the odds that Zimmerman will abide by the court’s order? Following his acquittal in the death of Trayvon Martin in 2013,  Zimmerman seems to not be able to stay out of trouble.  George Zimmerman is due back in court at 1:30 p.m. February 17, 2015 in front of Judge Donna McIntosh.

(http://scaredmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Zimmerman_arrest-DV-0109151.jpg)

    The 31-year-old was booked around 9:45 p.m. for aggravated assault — domestic violence with a weapon. According to Don West, Zimmerman’s attorney, his client threw a wine bottle during the incident.

    Zimmerman is prohibited from contacting the victim, returning to her home or entering Volusia County. He must surrender all firearms by Tuesday, but will not have to wear a GPS monitoring device.
::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on January 12, 2015, 02:02:36 PM
Videos and documents at the link

http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2015/1/12/zimmerman_arrest.html

George Zimmerman arrest report released
Last Updated: Monday, January 12, 2015, 1:03 PM

SANFORD --
Police have released new information on George Zimmerman's arrest for aggravated assault Friday night after he allegedly threw a wine bottle at his girlfriend days earlier.

Zimmerman, who was acquitted in 2013 in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin that got worldwide attention, bonded out of the Seminole County Jail on Saturday.

According to an arrest report released Monday by Lake Mary police, the incident happened on Jan. 5. Officers on patrol that night near Zimmerman's parents' home heard glass break, and then saw a vehicle drive away from the home without its headlights turned on.

After officers stopped the vehicle, they said the driver told them Zimmerman had just thrown a glass wine bottle at her, broke her cell phone and made threatening comments.

The unidentified woman told police she had been living with Zimmerman for the last few months, and they had been in an intimate relationship. Police said the woman added she did not wish to be involved in their investigation, and stated she was only Zimmerman's roommate.

Police said they found the broken wine bottle in the driveway of the home, and made multiple attempts to contact Zimmerman at the residence and by phone.

It wasn't until four days later, on Friday, that police successfully made contact with Zimmerman, who agreed to speak with officers while his attorney, Don West, listened in over the phone.

Zimmerman told police he was in a romantic relationship with the victim, but claimed she threw the wine bottle at him.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on January 12, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
Pattern of blaming the victim. 

He's a thug.

 ::donkey3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on January 13, 2015, 09:53:49 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2015/1/13/zimmerman_turns_in_guns.html

George Zimmerman turns in his guns after assault arrest
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 3:59 PM

SANFORD --
George Zimmerman surrendered his firearms per a judge's orders after his arrest Friday for aggravated assault.

A Seminole County judge gave Zimmerman until Tuesday to turn in his guns as a condition of his release on bond.

We checked earlier Tuesday with his attorney, Don West, who said Zimmerman surrendered his firearms to him on Saturday, shortly after his release.

West said he then gave the guns to a third party for safe keeping.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on January 14, 2015, 10:27:54 AM
Pattern of blaming the victim. 

He's a thug.

 ::donkey3::
::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on January 30, 2015, 02:14:24 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/27982734/no-charges-filed-against-george-zimmerman

No charges filed against George Zimmerman
Posted: Jan 30, 2015 8:13 AM CST
Updated: Jan 30, 2015 8:14 AM CST

LAKE MARY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35 ORLANDO) -  State Attorney Phil Archer announced Friday that his office will not file formal charges against George Zimmerman in connection with his arrest Jan. 9th for suspicion of aggravated assault in Lake Mary.

The office says it completed a review of the initial Lake Mary Police Department arrest report as well as additional written and oral statements submitted by the alleged victim after the arrest as part of the ongoing investigation.

"While it is clear that the officers had probable cause to arrest Mr. Zimmerman which was affirmed by the circuit court judge at initial appearances, the subsequent recantation by the victim of her initial statement along with new documents provided by the victim and her attorney precludes my office from proceeding further," Archer said.

The State Attorney's Office noted that the interview and documents provided by the victim were the result of a subpoena served on her requiring her appearance due to the fact that the victim refused to attend the first scheduled meeting with the office. 

The victim denied that Mr. Zimmerman threw a bottle at her and stated that she was never in fear of the Defendant.  She also made it clear that she did not want to proceed with the case. A lack of eyewitnesses or other corroborating evidence to dispute her version of the incident also contributed to the decision.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 24, 2015, 02:02:06 PM
http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/02/doj-to-announce-no-federal-charges-against-george-zimmerman/

DOJ To Announce No Federal Charges Against George Zimmerman
Posted by Andrew Branca      Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 1:50pm

The Department of Justice will reportedly announce that it will not bring federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman over Zimmerman’s self-defense killing of Trayvon Martin, reports ABC News.

This decision comes as no surprise to anyone familiar with the actual facts of the case. Zimmerman’s claim of lawful self-defense was overwhelmingly supported by evidence presented at trial, and there was no additional evidence suggesting Zimmerman had set out to deliberately violate Martin’s civil rights.

Indeed, the only shocking aspect of this is that it took the Department of Justice 19 months after Zimmerman’s acquittal to make the announcement. Given the Obama Administration’s incessant spinning of the news cycle so as to avoid getting pinned down to any single particular scandal, it seems likely that the announcement will be timed to coincide with the three year anniversary (February 26, two days from today) of Martin’s death.

Soon after the 2012 shooting, the Department of Justice ordered a team of FBI agents to interview witnesses, neighbors, co-workers, and friends of Zimmerman in a search for any evidence of racism.  They didn’t just come up empty; what evidence they did find confirmed that Zimmerman was decidedly not racist.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 24, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-george-zimmerman-civil-rights-20150224-story.html

Justice Department won't file criminal charges against George Zimmerman
February 24, 2015, 11:09 AM

The U.S. Justice Department said Tuesday it will not file criminal charges against George Zimmerman in the 2012 shooting of 17-year-old Florida resident Trayvon Martin..

Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr., who had vowed to complete the investigation before he left office, said a “comprehensive investigation found the high standard for a federal hate crime prosecution cannot be met."

But Holder added that Trayvon's "death necessitates we continue dialogue and be unafraid of confronting issues and tensions his passing brought to surface.”

Prosecutors from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, officials from the FBI, and the Justice Department’s Community Relations Service met Tuesday with Martin’s family and their representatives to inform them of the findings of the investigation and the decision.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on March 24, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/george-zimmerman-barack-obama-racial-comments/2015/03/23/id/632075/

George Zimmerman: Obama Turned Americans Against Me
Monday, 23 Mar 2015 10:56 PM

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who fatally shot a black teenager three years ago, blames President Barack Obama's "racially charged comments" for turning many Americans against him.

In an interview recorded with the lawyer who worked on his 2013 divorce case, Zimmerman calls out the president's messaging following the fatal shooting.

Zimmerman also refers to the president by his full legal name, Barack Hussein Obama.

"I think that throughout the process, the president should have done what he said he was going to do and not interject himself in a local law enforcement matter or a state matter and waited until the facts came out, instead of rushing to judgment, making racially charged comments, and pitting American against American," Zimmerman said.
 ::snipping3::

Video and transcript of the interview at the link below--
http://www.18884mydivorce.com/georgezimmerman2015/
An Interview With George Zimmerman – March 2015


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on May 11, 2015, 01:54:37 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-involved-in-shooting-in-lake-mary-police-say/32943940


WATCH LIVE: Sky 6 flies over scene of Zimmerman shooting

LAKE MARY, Fla. -
George Zimmerman was involved in a shooting Monday in Lake Mary, police said.


The shooting took place on Lake Mary Boulevard near Rinehart Road, east of Interstate 4.

It's not known what prompted the shooting, but Lake Mary police said two vehicles were involved.

Video from Local 6 helicopter Sky 6 showed a sport utility truck, believed to be a Honda Ridgeline belonging to Zimmerman, being towed.  There's a possible bullethole in the passenger-side window of the truck.  An SUV was also at the scene.
 ::snipping3::

who is surprised?? not me... this pattern of behavior will continue until it ends in his death or incarceration...   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on May 11, 2015, 02:07:25 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/george-zimmerman-shot-lake-mary/nmDZj/

George Zimmerman shot in face in Lake Mary


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on May 11, 2015, 02:39:35 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/11/us/florida-george-zimmerman-shooting/


 ::snipping3::

'I shot George Zimmerman, call 911'


An employee at a nearby business, Kenneth Cornell, said he was exiting his car after lunch when a man drove up and started yelling about the shooting.

The man shouted to Cornell: "I shot George Zimmerman, call 911. I don't have a phone."

Cornell said the man didn't know whether Zimmerman was hurt. He called 911.

According to Cornell, the man told him that he and Zimmerman have had three disputes. This time, Zimmerman waved a gun and the man shot at him, according to Cornell.

Police arrived minutes after he called 911, Cornell said.

Police have not verified Cornell's account to CNN.

 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Blonde on May 11, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
ORLANDO, Fla. (Reuters) - George Zimmerman, who was acquitted of murder charges in the 2012 shooting death of an unarmed black teenager in Florida, suffered a minor wound after being shot at in a road-rage incident on Monday, media reports said.
Zimmerman did not fire a gun in the incident, the Orlando Sentinel reported, citing a statement by police in Lake Mary, Florida, a suburb of Orlando where the incident occurred.

An attorney for Zimmerman said a bullet missed his head but he was hit by broken glass from the vehicle, according to WESH. The television station also said a bullet hole could be seen in the passenger window of Zimmerman's vehicle.


Police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said the shooting was under investigation but did not provide details.

Police said it appeared to be a "road-rage incident," according to the FOX 35 television station in Orlando. WESH-TV in Orlando said Zimmerman's injury was minor. ::snipping3::

http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-involved-florida-shooting-incident-175906724.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on May 11, 2015, 10:41:29 PM
George Zimmerman Injuried in Shooting Incident in Lake Mary, FL (Update: Atty. Mark NeJame Says Apperson Shot in Self-Defense)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2015/05/11/george-zimmerman-injuries-in-shooting-incident-in-lake-mary-fl-update-atty-mark-nejame-say-apperson-shot-in-self-defense/

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As reported at WESH, George Zimmerman was injured today in a shooting incident in Lake Mary, Florida. According to reports, Zimmerman suffered a minor gunshot wound. The police said that the individual who shot at Zimmerman was the same man, Matthew Apperson, who has had an on-going feud with Zimmerman. According to the police, George Zimmerman did not fire any shots, according to police.  Zimmerman was taken to Central Florida Regional Hospital, and was quickly released. The two have an ongoing dispute and were involved in an altercation in September 2014, when Apperson accused Zimmerman of trying to kill him in a road-rage encounter.
::snipping3::

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UPDATE I: Attorney Mark NeJame Says His Client shot at George Zimmerman in self-defense. (VIDEO)

The attorney for a Seminole County man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman during a road rage incident on Monday said he opened fire in self-defense.

Police said the shooting stemmed from a road rage incident on Lake Mary Boulevard and involved Matthew Apperson, of Winter Springs, a man involved in another confrontation with Zimmerman in September.

 “He simply maintained that he acted in self-defense,” attorney Mark NeJame said. “We see everything to suggest that that is correct.”
::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Red on May 11, 2015, 10:43:21 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/george-zimmerman-involved-in-shooting-in-lake-mary-police-say/32943940


WATCH LIVE: Sky 6 flies over scene of Zimmerman shooting

LAKE MARY, Fla. -
George Zimmerman was involved in a shooting Monday in Lake Mary, police said.


The shooting took place on Lake Mary Boulevard near Rinehart Road, east of Interstate 4.

It's not known what prompted the shooting, but Lake Mary police said two vehicles were involved.

Video from Local 6 helicopter Sky 6 showed a sport utility truck, believed to be a Honda Ridgeline belonging to Zimmerman, being towed.  There's a possible bullethole in the passenger-side window of the truck.  An SUV was also at the scene.
 ::snipping3::

who is surprised?? not me... this pattern of behavior will continue until it ends in his death or incarceration...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sadly I agree. He just seems to not be able to stay out of trouble or have trouble find him. I don't see it ending well for an individual who just cannot fade into obscurity.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 12, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-george-zimmerman-shooting-20150512-story.html

George Zimmerman shooting: 911 call released, guns recovered
May 12, 2015, 7:49 PM

 ::snipping3::
A redacted version of a 911 call was released Tuesday.

"The guy right here just said he had to shoot someone through his window, so he wants the police to come," an unidentified caller told dispatch in the 48-second 911 call. "He said it was George Zimmerman."

Gillett said the 911 call is only the first half of the call.

The rest has "pertinent information" to the ongoing investigation, so it's not being released right now.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 12, 2015, 10:29:59 PM
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/05/george_zimmermans_fresh_start.html

George Zimmerman's fresh start hampered by new investigation
on May 12, 2015 at 5:14 PM

ORLANDO, Fla. — George Zimmerman had moved out of Florida recently, hoping for a fresh start.
 ::snipping3::
Zimmerman had returned to the area for Mother's Day and a doctor's appointment, and was driving to his doctor's office when the confrontation took place, said his attorney, Don West. Apperson works nearby, at a disability-benefits office.

Police recovered a handgun from Zimmerman and took two guns from Apperson's car. Both men had their guns legally.

"He never waved it, displayed it or brandished it," West said of Zimmerman. "He did not threaten Mr. Apperson in any way with a firearm."

Apperson's attorney, Mark NeJame, said the shooting was "a good, old-fashioned self-defense case" and that Apperson's encounter with Zimmerman was pure "happenstance." Apperson claimed Zimmerman brandished a gun and he feared for his life, NeJame said.

"He is not looking for trouble. He did not want trouble," NeJame said of Apperson. "He's not following George Zimmerman around. He's not wanting anything to do with George Zimmerman, as it relates to any of this."

Police on Tuesday released a 911 call in which the caller says Apperson told him he was forced to fire at Zimmerman.

"A guy says he had to shoot a guy through the window and he wants the police to come," the man said on the call. "He had to shoot at somebody ... He said it was George Zimmerman."

Documents show detectives are investigating the shooting as a possible aggravated assault with a deadly weapon without intent to kill. There is no timetable on when they will decide on whether any charges are warranted.

Police appealed to the public for help, believing "there is someone that saw something" on the busy road, Lake Mary Officer Bianca Gillett said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on May 13, 2015, 10:09:24 AM
IMO Zimmerman is worse than an accident waiting to happen.

I know legally he can carry a firearm -- but I don't think mentality he should be allowed.  JMO

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on May 13, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
what sister said   ::rhino::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 13, 2015, 06:24:01 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/bullet-fired-at-george-zimmerman-recovered-from-vehicle-police-say/32997104

Zimmerman gives statement to police after bullet recovered from vehicle
5:29 PM EDT May 13, 2015

LAKE MARY, Fla. —The bullet fired at George Zimmerman on Monday has been recovered from his vehicle, according to Lake Mary police.

Zimmerman gave a statement to police on Wednesday, reiterating the claim that he did nothing to provoke the shooting.

But police are still trying to sort out exactly what happened along Lake Mary Boulevard. The accused shooter, Matthew Apperson, 36, has not given a statement to police.
 ::snipping3::
Police said they are going to work on tracking the trajectory of the bullet to see if Zimmerman's window was down at the time of the shooting.

A nearby business has a surveillance camera that is pointed at Lake Mary Boulevard, but it is unknown if the incident between Zimmerman and Apperson was captured on video.
 ::snipping3::
WESH 2 legal analyst Richard Hornsby believes law enforcement has been hesitant to file charges and make an arrest simply because Zimmerman is involved in the incident.

Police said they are classifying the incident as an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, but until they receive a sworn statement from Apperson, no arrests are expected.

Lake Mary police said Zimmerman and Apperson have an ongoing dispute and were involved in an altercation in September, when Apperson accused Zimmerman of trying to kill him while on the road.

Apperson has been arrested and convicted at least four times, according to police records.

In 2005, a woman accused Apperson of punching her window in a road-rage incident, police said. That woman decided not to press charges.

Winter Springs police said they have been called to Apperson's home at least 15 times since July 2012.

While Apperson has spent time in jail, he has not been arrested in more than a decade.
 ::snipping3::




Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 15, 2015, 10:46:54 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-matthew-apperson-arrested-george-zimmerman-20150515-story.html

Matthew Apperson arrested after shooting involving George Zimmerman
May 15, 2015, 9:22 PM

Lake Mary police arrested a Winter Springs man Friday on charges related to a shooting involving George Zimmerman earlier this week.

Matthew Apperson, 35, turned himself in Friday evening, police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.

Apperson was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and firing a deadly missile into an occupied conveyance.

Police have released a 911 call from the shooting involving George Zimmerman, which sent the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer to the hospital with minor injuries.

"After conducting numerous interviews throughout the week, detectives determined that Mr. Apperson did intentionally fire his weapon into the vehicle occupied by George Zimmerman without provocation," Gillett said in a statement.

Apperson is being held on no bond, Seminole County Sheriff's spokeswoman Kristen Bentsen said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: flamom on May 16, 2015, 06:36:50 AM
Apperson seems like another hothead. They are moths to the flame attracted to each other... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 16, 2015, 06:02:37 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/man-accused-of-shooting-george-zimmerman-arrested-police-say/33050642

Judge sets $35,000 bond for man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman
UPDATED 2:19 PM EDT May 16, 2015

 ::snipping3::
On Saturday, Apperson made his initial court appearance, which lasted four minutes. While Apperson was initially held on no bond, Judge Michael Rudisill agreed to set bond at $35,000. Rudisill set a number of conditions if Apperson is released. He is not allowed to possess or own any firearms and must surrender all of them.

Apperson was also ordered not to have any contact with Zimmerman. There will not be any GPS monitoring, since Zimmerman opted to keep his location unknown.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 16, 2015, 06:10:33 PM
Video at the link
Arrest report at the link

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/new-details-expected-george-zimmerman-road-rage-sh/nmHMK/

Posted: 2:49 p.m. Saturday, May 16, 2015
Man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman bonds out of jail

(http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/lt/lt_cache/thumbnail/188/img/videothumbs/2015/05/16/72/b9/a29cbc94-fbe7-11e4-8d2d-00151712edf8.jpg)

LAKE MARY, Fla. —
The man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman bonded out of jail Saturday afternoon.

Channel 9 was there as Matthew Apperson walked out of the Seminole County Jail. He had no comment.

A judge set a $35,000 bond for Apperson earlier in the day and ordered him to turn in any guns to the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office within 24 hours of his release, and to have no contact with Zimmerman.

"I don't care whether you've been shopping at Publix for two hours and have a full cart of groceries or whatever. You see Mr. Zimmerman walking through that door, you're the one that has to leave," the judge said.

Raw: Apperson's first appearance | Apperson bonds out of jail

PDF: Matthew Apperson's arrest report (Warning: Graphic language)
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 18, 2015, 09:14:28 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/arrest-report-details-mental-health-of-man-who-shot-at-george-zimmerman/33087854

Arrest report details mental health of man who shot at George Zimmerman
Published On: May 18 2015 06:35:13 PM EDT   Updated On: May 18 2015 06:46:38 PM EDT

 ::snipping3::
In Apperson's arrest report, which Local 6 obtained from the Seminole County Clerk of Courts, a Lake Mary police officer wrote, "During the investigation, I learned that Apperson has exhibited unusual behavior in which he had recently been admitted to a mental institution. It appears that Apperson has a fixation on Zimmerman and has displayed some signs of paranoia, anxiety, and bipolar disorder."

A Lake Mary Police spokesperson said the information came from family and friends but was not independently verified.

Apperson did not answer the door at his Winter Springs home Monday afternoon when Local 6 knocked seeking comment.

Mark Nejame, Apperson's former attorney, said he's referring Apperson's case to a colleague within his office and that he did not believe Apperson's mental health history should be publicly released.
 ::snipping3::
His arraignment will be June 23 with Judge Debra Nelson, the same judge that presided over the Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin  trial.

A Lake Mary police spokesperson said it's now up to the state attorney's office to file charges after a thorough investigation that will likely include verifying Apperson's mental health history.

When Local 6 asked police why Apperson was allowed to have a loaded gun in his car if he was admitted to a mental health facility, Lake Mary Police spokesperson Bianca Gillett said,if law enforcement wasn't involved in getting Apperson to the mental health facility, law enforcement wouldn't have known he'd been there. Gillett said the facility cannot report the visit because of patient confidentiality rules.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 20, 2015, 06:30:48 PM
http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2015/05/20/shooter-fixated-george-zimmerman-police-report-says/27634809/

Shooter fixated on George Zimmerman, police report says
6:50 a.m. EDT May 20, 2015

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A Florida man charged with shooting at George Zimmerman last week had "a fixation" on the former neighborhood watch leader and had recently been admitted to a mental institution, according to a police report made public Tuesday.

The Lake Mary Police Department report said that 36-year-old Matthew Apperson had shown signs of paranoia, anxiety and bipolar disorder.

Apperson's attorney, Michael LaFay, refused to comment on any past hospitalizations of Apperson, but he questioned the qualifications of the Police Department to make any psychological or psychiatric diagnoses.

"I'm unaware of any psychological or psychiatric degrees that are held by the officers at the Lake Mary Police Department," LaFay told The Associated Press on Tuesday. "I'm going to take their diagnoses with a grain of salt."

Zimmerman told officers he had been driving in the Orlando suburb of Lake Mary last week when Apperson got behind his truck and yelled, "You remember me you fat mother f-----?" according to the report.

Apperson then yelled at Zimmerman, "You owe me your life. The only reason I didn't press charges on you is because I wanted to kill you myself," Zimmerman told detectives, according to the report.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 28, 2015, 10:52:46 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/state-requests-gps-monitoring-for-man-accused-of-firing-shots-at-george-zimmerman/33268102

State requests GPS monitoring for man accused of firing shots at George Zimmerman
Published On: May 28 2015 02:56:34 PM EDT   Updated On: May 28 2015 02:58:00 PM EDT

State officials are requesting GPS monitoring for the man who was arrested after firing a gun into George Zimmerman's truck earlier this month.

Matthew Apperson turned himself in to authorities and was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and firing a deadly missile into an occupied conveyance, an arrest report said.

The state filed the motion on Thursday and a hearing will be held on Friday at 1:30 p.m. A judge had previously said that there is no GPS monitoring required because Zimmerman does not want anyone to know his whereabouts.

In the motion, officials said Zimmerman's address would not need to be provided for Apperson to receive GPS monitoring.

The assistant state attorney writes the judge was "misinformed by jail staff at the time of Apperson's First Appearance" and that Apperson "poses a continuing threat to safety of Mr. Zimmerman."

Also in the motion, the state writes that Apperson has a history of mental illness, including bipolar disorder and generalized anxiety disorder.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 29, 2015, 08:00:39 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/29191550/prosecutors-want-accused-george-zimmerman-shooter-to-wear-gps-monitor

Accused George Zimmerman shooter required to wear GPS monitor
Posted: May 29, 2015 2:03 PM CDT
Updated: May 29, 2015 3:46 PM CDT

SANFORD, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35 ORLANDO) - The man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman will be required to wear a GPS monitoring device.

Matthew Apperson, 36, has been charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery and firing a missile into an occupied conveyance stemming from an incident with Zimmerman on May 11.  He was arrested on May 15 but released on a $35,000 bond. 

Prosecutors filed a motion on Thursday to require that Apperson wear a GPS monitoring device as a modification of his previously-imposed bond conditions.  A hearing on the motion was held on Friday.

The assistant state attorney argued the only reason the first appearance judge did not order Apperson to wear the tracking device was because that judge thought they would need Zimmerman's home address, which he has not been made public for safety reasons. But that turns out not to be the case.

Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson agreed with the state and ordered Apperson to be fitted with the device.

"So there will be no travel travel restrictions placed upon Mr. Apperson," she explained, "just that he be fitted with that device with that feature with the sole purpose of determining whether or not he's in the proximity of Mr. Zimmerman, and that he be alerted to that fact, so he takes whatever actions he deems necessary for that protection."
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on May 29, 2015, 08:12:23 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/29/matthew-apperson-stand-your-ground_n_7472894.html

'Stand Your Ground' Defense Planned By Man Accused Of Shooting George Zimmerman
AP    Posted:  05/29/2015 6:23 pm EDT    Updated:  1 hour ago

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — An attorney for a Florida man charged with shooting at George Zimmerman said Friday that he planned to use a "Stand Your Ground" defense — the same legal strategy considered but ultimately not used by lawyers for the former neighborhood watch leader who was acquitted in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

Such a defense would entitle Matthew Apperson to a hearing, ahead of his trial, during which a judge would decide if he deserves immunity from prosecution because he feared imminent death or bodily injury. Apperson was charged earlier this month with aggravated assault and battery for firing a gun into Zimmerman's car during a traffic run-in. Zimmerman had minor injuries.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2015, 06:13:04 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/us/apperson-charged-with-attempted-murder-of-george-zimmerman/

Man charged with attempted murder of George Zimmerman
Updated 5:48 PM ET, Thu June 18, 2015

(CNN)—Matthew Apperson has been charged today with second degree attempted murder in last month's shooting of George Zimmerman.

"Our law enforcement community and the State Attorney's Office works vigorously to ensure people may travel our busy streets, going about their business, without fear. Every resident and visitor to Seminole County deserves this freedom," said State Attorney Phil Archer.

"My reaction to these charges is a pronounced shrug," Apperson's attorney Michael LaFay told CNN. "I've reviewed the charges and they don't change the facts. The prosecutors have put their heads together and tried to contemplate what could be the most serious charges, but that doesn't really change anything. This is a case of self-defense."

Apperson also faces charges of shooting into an occupied vehicle and aggravated assault with with a firearm.  ::snipping3::

His arraignment is scheduled for June 23.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on June 23, 2015, 10:32:52 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/man-charged-with-shooting-at-george-zimmerman-pleads-not-guilty/33726378

Man charged with shooting at George Zimmerman pleads not guilty
Published  8:36 AM EDT Jun 23, 2015

ORLANDO, Fla. —A Florida man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman during a traffic encounter has entered a written plea of not guilty.

A hearing had been set for Matthew Apperson on Tuesday, but it was taken off the calendar Monday after he waived his right to a personal appearance in court.

Raw video: Bullet hole in window of Zimmerman's vehicle

Apperson was charged last week with attempted second-degree murder, aggravated assault and shooting into an occupied vehicle.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 15, 2015, 08:22:22 PM
Drama...  ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/zimmermans-alleged-shooter-accused-of-urinating-on-neighbors-porch/34168716

Zimmerman's alleged shooter accused of urinating on neighbor's front porch
Published On: Jul 14 2015 10:47:13 PM EDT   Updated  2 h

WINTER SPRINGS, Fla. - 
Local 6 has exclusively learned there's new trouble for the man who shot at George Zimmerman claiming self-defense.

Matthew Apperson is now facing a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge, accused of urinating on his neighbor's front porch.

A new motion filed last week by the State Attorney's Office asks a judge to revoke his bond for his attempted murder charge.
 ::snipping3::
Apperson was home Tuesday night but shut the door at the sight of our camera. Local 6 called his lawyer and left messages, but he has yet to return our calls.

Zimmerman's attorney, Don West, told Local 6 he didn't want to comment, simply saying he hopes the judge will consider whether Apperson should be out on the streets.

Kramer said the series of events could work in the state's favor of putting Apperson in jail, but that won't be decided until July 31.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Amys Sister on July 16, 2015, 01:03:22 PM
Apperson is a danger to his community IMO.  His mental illness is getting the best of him.   ::donkey3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on July 16, 2015, 09:48:09 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/man-charged-with-shooting-at-zimmerman-accused-of-urinating-on-neighbors-door/34181016

Man charged with shooting at Zimmerman accused of urinating on neighbor's door
1:29 PM EDT Jul 15, 2015

ORLANDO, Fla. —A Florida man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman during a traffic encounter earlier this year is now accused of urinating on a neighbor's door.

Seminole County prosecutors charged Matthew Apperson with disorderly conduct last month in connection with the incident.

According to a Winter Springs police report, Anthony Woods was cleaning an apartment complex's pool when he said he heard Apperson "yelling obscenities" in the direction of a female neighbor's home. She was not inside at the time. Woods told officers that Apperson then urinated on the door.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 01, 2015, 01:22:07 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/state-files-motion-revoke-bond-man-accused-shootin/nm9hk/

Posted: 10:57 a.m. Friday, July 31, 2015
Bond revoked for man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. —
A judge granted a motion on a separate charge to revoke the bond for a man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman.

Matthew Apperson was taken into custody Friday on a separate charge. The state attorney asked the judge to send Apperson back to jail for allegedly urinating on his neighbor Sharee Rivera's doorstep.

Apperson had been out on bond since the shooting and was being monitored by GPS.

Apperson denied urinating on the Rivera's doorstep and pointed out that he's being monitored by GPS, so, there would be evidence if he had gone to her home.

Judge Debra Nelson said because there is probable cause in the case, it violates the rules of his bond.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on August 20, 2015, 10:10:19 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/man-accused-of-firing-at-george-zimmerman-returns-to-court/34800878

Man accused of firing at George Zimmerman returns to court
UPDATED 5:20 PM EDT Aug 19, 2015

LAKE MARY, Fla. —A man charged with trying to kill George Zimmerman was back in court on Wednesday.

Matthew Apperson appeared in handcuffs before a judge on a misdemeanor charge that caused his bond to be revoked last month after police said he urinated on a neighbor's front door.

"At this time we will go ahead. Since he was never arrested on this charge, we will go ahead and remand to custody and issue (a) $1,000 bond on this charge," the judge said.

The attorney representing Apperson said the judge's bond ruling is just a formality for the charge since he was summoned, but not arrested.
 ::snipping3::
A judge ordered Apperson to return to court Oct. 8 on the misdemeanor urination charge. The judge also scheduled a docket review on Oct. 8 to coordinate a trial date.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 22, 2015, 06:12:46 PM
http://www.people.com/article/george-zimmerman-testifies-against-matthew-apperson-pretrial-hearing

George Zimmerman Testifies Against the Man Accused of Shooting At Him
 09/22/2015 AT 05:55 PM EDT

George Zimmerman took the stand in Florida on Tuesday, testifying against the man who is accused of shooting at him in May.

Matthew Apperson, who claims he shot at Zimmerman in self-defense, is facing charges of attempted murder, in addition to other charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, and firing into a moving car.

During a probable cause hearing on Tuesday, Zimmerman gave his recollections of the May 11 incident:

He testified that was heading to a Sam's Club in a car with a tire that was low on air. When he heard a car horn honking, he initially thought it was someone trying to tell him he had a flat tire.

"After, I rolled down the passenger side window and I said, 'Thank you, I already know I'm losing air,'" Zimmerman testified. "That's when he said, 'You already know you're wrong for killing that little black boy?'"

"He said, 'Do you remember me, you fat f---? You owe me your life,'" Zimmerman testified. "I laughed and said, 'You're a clown.'"

"At that point, I looked into [his] vehicle," Zimmerman continued. "I saw the barrel of a gun."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on September 22, 2015, 06:16:02 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/us/george-zimmerman-matthew-apperson-attempted-murder-trial/

Judge orders trial for man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman
Updated 6:19 PM ET, Tue September 22, 2015

(CNN)—A Florida man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman in May will stand trial for attempted second degree murder, a judge ruled Tuesday.

Judge Debra S. Nelson ruled there was probable cause that Matthew Apperson should be tried on three charges. In addition to the attempted murder charge, he also faces one count of aggravated assault with a firearm and one count of shooting into an occupied vehicle.
 ::snipping3::
Apperson's next court date is October 21.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Blonde on September 28, 2015, 01:58:20 PM
Professional Imbecile George Zimmerman Retweets Graphic Photo of Trayvon Martin's Dead Body
George Zimmerman, actual thug and current Confederate flag struggle painter, has somehow managed to amass 11,000 (presumably stupid, racist, or both) followers on Twitter since somehow being acquitted of second-degree murder in the shooting death of unarmed black 17-year-old high school student Trayvon Martin. In an effort to maintain his personal brand, Zimmerman regularly tweets and/or retweets wildly idiotic statements on matters of race, politics, and his own storied history ::snipping3::

http://news.yahoo.com/professional-imbecile-george-zimmerman-retweets-163810394.html


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 08, 2015, 11:36:25 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2015/10/8/zimmerman_shooting_trial.html

Zimmerman shooter's trial for urinating on neighbor's porch set
Last Updated: Thursday, October 08, 2015, 11:42 AM 

SANFORD --

Before the man charged with shooting at George Zimmerman in May is tried for attempted murder, he'll first stand trial for allegedly urinating on a neighbor's front porch.

Matthew Apperson was in court Thursday as a judge set his trial for disorderly conduct to begin Monday, Oct. 19.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 20, 2015, 10:31:10 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-matthew-apperson-urinating-trial-20151019-story.html

Matthew Apperson case: Zimmerman shooting suspect on trial for disorderly conduct
October 19, 2015, 11:59 AM

Matthew Apperson, the Winter Springs man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman during a road-rage incident, is in court today to settle a different dispute: did he urinate on his neighbor's porch?

Jury selection for the misdemeanor trial began in Seminole County this morning. Presentation of evidence is expected to begin Wednesday.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on October 22, 2015, 11:56:46 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/trial-begins-2nd-case-man-accused-shooting-george-/nn68C/

Posted: 7:32 p.m. Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2015
Man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman convicted of public urination

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. —
The man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman was found guilty in an unrelated public urination case Wednesday.

Investigators said while Matthew Apperson was out on bond for the shooting charge, he urinated on his neighbor's doorstep.

He was tried on a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge.
 ::snipping3::
Apperson was sentenced to 60 days in jail, which he has already served, but will still stay in jail without bond until the trial for the shooting.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 02, 2015, 01:58:05 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/district-court-of-appeal-dismisses-george-zimmerman-nbc-defamation-lawsuit

George Zimmerman loses appeal in NBC defamation lawsuit
Posted: 1:35 PM, December 02, 2015
Updated: 1:50 PM, December 02, 2015

George Zimmerman’s attempt to sue NBC News over its coverage of the Trayvon Martin shooting in 2012 has once again been scuttled.

On Monday, the Fifth District Court of Appeal affirmed a lower court’s ruling to dismiss the defamation lawsuit Zimmerman filed against NBC Universal.  Zimmerman had claimed the media company maliciously edited phone calls he placed to 911 shortly after he shot and killed Martin in 2012.

The appellate judges did not issue a written explanation as to why they believed the trial court was correct in dismissing Zimmerman’s lawsuit.

The day before the appeals court ruling, Zimmerman sent out a Tweet that read, "NBC suit is alive & well".   Zimmerman promised 20% of the proceeds from the lawsuit would be used to pay back supporters who donated to his legal defense fund.

In June 2014, Seminole County Circuit Court Judge Debra S. Nelson threw out the defamation case.

"There are no genuine issues of material fact upon which a reasonable jury could find that the Defendants acted with actual malice," Nelson ruled. She said the malice standard was appropriate because Zimmerman is a public figure.
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Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on December 21, 2015, 06:06:14 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/man-accused-of-trying-to-kill-george-zimmerman-due-in-court

Hearing held for man accused of trying to kill George Zimmerman
Docket sounding heard in Matthew Apperson's case
Posted: 7:15 AM, December 16, 2015
Updated: 9:26 AM, December 16, 2015

SANFORD, Fla. - A docket sounding was held Wednesday in the case of the man accused of trying to kill George Zimmerman.

Matthew Apperson, who was charged with attempted second-degree murder after investigators said he shot at Zimmerman during a confrontation on Lake Mary Boulevard earlier this year, was not in court.

He was represented by his attorney, who requested a continuance for more time to complete depositions.

The judge scheduled the next hearing for February 24.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on January 24, 2016, 08:40:44 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/george-zimmerman-divorce-finalized-truck-family-dog-36460728

George Zimmerman Divorce Finalized; Keeps Truck, Family Dog
By The Associated Press
·SANFORD, Fla. — Jan 22, 2016, 8:31 PM ET

George Zimmerman is officially divorced.

The Orlando Sentinel (http://goo.gl/egEIya) reports that a Seminole County judge signed the divorce order Tuesday, ending his marriage to Shellie Zimmerman.
 ::snipping3::
Divorce proceedings took so long because the former couple fought over how to split millions expected from a defamation lawsuit against NBC Universal Media LLC. A judge eventually tossed out the suit.

Zimmerman will keep his pickup and the family dog. George and Shellie Zimmerman will each be responsible for their own debts.


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: grace-land on February 24, 2016, 09:07:29 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/matthew-apperson-accused-of-shooting-at-george-zimmerman-gets-help-with-fees/

February 23, 2016, 3:59 PM
Man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman gets help with fees

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. -- The man accused of shooting at George Zimmerman filed a motion on Tuesday, saying he does not have enough money to pay his legal fees, reports CBS affiliate WKMG.

Matthew Apperson is facing second-degree attempted murder charges for allegedly shooting at Zimmerman during a May 2015 in Lake Mary, Fla. A judge granted Apperson's motion to be declared indigent, which means the state will assist in paying for his legal counsel.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on May 12, 2016, 08:29:08 AM
  ::MonkeyNoNo:: This gun should have been destroyed.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-auction-gun-killed-trayvon-martin-article-1.2634153
George Zimmerman puts gun that killed Trayvon Martin up for auction
May 12, 2016

SALE: One .9-mm pistol — and whatever’s left of George Zimmerman’s bankrupt soul.

The Florida neighborhood watchman who fatally shot unarmed teen Trayvon Martin in 2012 is putting the killer handgun up for auction — and hoping to fetch at least $5,000.

“I am honored and humbled to announce the sale of an American Firearm Icon,” Zimmerman wrote in his online description of the weapon. The perverted auction opens for bids at 11 a.m. Thursday.

“The firearm for sale is the firearm that was used to defend my life and end the brutal attack from Trayvon Martin on 2/26/2012 ... Many have expressed interest in owning and displaying the firearm including The Smithsonian Museum in Washington D.C. This is a piece of American History,” Zimmerman wrote.

The 32-year-old Zimmerman — who left the world gasping when he was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter in the case in 2013 — said he recently got the .9mm-handgun back from the Department of Justice, which kept it after his trial.

The Kel-Tec PF-9 is displayed on online auction site Gunbroker.com, with a picture of a court officer holding up the gun at his murder trial.

Zimmerman tagged the item with the Latin phrase, “Si Vis Pace Para Bellum,” which means “If you want peace, prepare for war.”

He also said a portion of the proceeds will go to help fight Black Lives Matter “violence against law enforcement officers” and to end “Hillary Clinton’s anti-firearm rhetoric.”
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: Sister on May 12, 2016, 10:23:41 AM
"American Firearm Icon" -- this man is a legend in his own mind.

 :2brickwall:   :smt066


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on May 12, 2016, 01:41:24 PM
In my opinion, if Zimmerman wanted to "move past it" (see my bold, blue below) he should have quietly taken the gun and had it destroyed.  It was only about a $200 or $300 gun, initially.  It was the notoriety he was counting on to sell it for a starting bid of $5,000.00  ::MonkeyNoNo::  I haven't always agreed with some of what Trayvon's family's views are and etc., but frankly, I really, really feel badly for them that this has come up.  This just isn't right.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  All just my own humble opinion, of course.



http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/us/george-zimmerman-gun-auction/
Gun purportedly used to kill Trayvon Martin disappears from auction site
May 12, 2016

CNN)George Zimmerman was set to auction the gun he used to kill Trayvon Martin four years ago, he told a Florida TV station.

But mysteriously, when the auction was slated to begin, the weapon vanished from the website, replaced by a note that read, "Sorry, but the item you have requested is no longer in the system."
Searches for Zimmerman and Trayvon, which earlier Thursday morning had yielded information about the gun and its sale, returned no results.
CNN attempts to reach the auction site were not immediately successful. Reached via phone, Zimmerman told CNN, "Thanks for the call. I'm not speaking to media right now," and hung up.
 ::snipping3::
Zimmerman made headlines again Wednesday, this time for an ad posted on a firearm-auctioning website, GunBroker.
The post listed the weapon purportedly used to kill Martin at a starting bid of $5,000.
"I am honored and humbled to announce the sale of an American firearm icon," the post said. "The firearm for sale is the firearm that was used to defend my life and end the brutal attack from Trayvon Martin on 2/26/2012."
The post bragged about the gun's popularity, describing it as a "piece of American history."
But while the auction site said many museums, including the Smithsonian Institution, have "expressed interest in owning and displaying the firearm," the Washington-based Smithsonian released a statement saying, "We have never expressed interest in collecting George Zimmerman's firearm, and have no plans to ever collect or display it in any museums."

In an interview with WOFL-TV in Orlando, Zimmerman said he decided to sell the weapon and move past it.
"I recently received it back from the Department of Justice," he said. "They took it after my trial, after I was exonerated."
Zimmerman told the station he has had death threats since he put the gun up for sale.
"What I've decided to do is not cower," he said. "I'm a free American. I can do what I want with my possessions."
Proceeds from the gun's sale were supposed to be used to "fight [Black Lives Matter] violence against law enforcement officers," according to the post that has now disappeared.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Trial of George Zimmerman in the Death of Trayvon Martin - NOT GUILTY #9 7/15/13
Post by: MuffyBee on May 13, 2016, 08:27:30 AM
http://www.statesman.com/ap/ap/top-news/million-dollar-bids-shown-for-gun-that-killed-tray/nrMMm/
Auction for gun that killed Trayvon Martin possibly hijacked
May 13, 2016

MIAMI — Bidding in an online auction for the pistol former neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon Martin appeared to have been hijacked by fake accounts posting astronomically high bids.

At one point early Friday, the bidding surpassed $65 million with the leading bidder using the screen name "Racist McShootFace." The site later showed that account had been deleted.

Other screen names of bidders on the site included "Donald Trump," ''shaniqua bonifa" and "Tamir Rice," the name of a black 12-year-old who was shot and killed by Cleveland police in 2014 while playing with a pellet gun.

The website for United Gun Group began hosting the auction Thursday after another website, GunBroker.com, took down the auction saying it wanted "no part in the listing on our website or in any of the publicity it is receiving."

Hours later, United Gun Group tweeted that it would post Zimmerman's ad. The new link was posted, along with a statement from Zimmerman. The site calls itself a "social market place for the firearms community."

Bidding on the 9 mm Kel-Tec PF-9 pistol began at $5,000.

Critics called the auction an insensitive move to profit from the slaying.

Zimmerman had told Orlando, Florida, TV station WOFL that the pistol was returned to him by the U.S. Justice Department, which took it after he was acquitted in Martin's 2012 shooting death.

Zimmerman's listing said a portion of the proceeds would go toward fighting what Zimmerman calls violence by the Black Lives Matter movement against law enforcement officers, combatting anti-gun rhetoric of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and ending the career of state attorney Angela Corey, who led Zimmerman's prosecution.

The listing ended with a Latin phrase that translates as "if you want peace, prepare for war."
 ::snipping3::
Since Zimmerman was acquitted, he has b