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Nut, thanks for the new cage.

I received emails from a couple of "guests" this morning inquiring how to locate past Kyron Horman threads.  I provided the links but then thought that there may be others having difficulty navigating.

Its been a while ....

I hope you are having a good summer.  I am ... sorta.  It's way too hot.

Janet

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Kyron Horman Threads

Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum > Missing Persons - High Profile > Missing Persons High Profile
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Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #45
January 1, 2014 - August 8, 2015
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12958.0


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Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #39
December 24, 2010 - January 2, 2010
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9159.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #40
January 2, 2011 - January 18, 2011
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9196.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #41
January 18, 2011 - February 8, 2011
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9222.0
   
Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42
February 8, 2011 - May 23, 2011
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9317.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #43
May 23, 2011 - April 11, 2012
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9426.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44
April 11, 2012 - January 1, 2014
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9941.0

JAMES MOULTON

The civil suit filed against Terri Horman by Desiree Young was delayed by the District Attorney and Sheriff in November 2012 and ultimately dropped in 2013.  Both actions cited the compromising of the Kyron Horman investigation.

If the civil suit had gone forward ... could it be that James Moulton's August 2012 deposition/ testimony would have revealed the truth encompassing the disputed dynamics behind the move to his grandparents' Roseburg home in February/March 2010?  Could it be that James' testimony would have revealed so much more?

BOTTOM LINE!   Why was James' testimony so important in the furtherance of the $10,000,000 lawsuit?

Could it be that James Moulton's August 2012 deposition was submitted to investigators as Kyron Horman case evidence?  Could it be that James will be a Prosecution witness at an eventual trial?

JAMES MOULTON (Continued)

2010

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1.  The Family Dynamics

According to Kaine

Terri Moulton Horman: Kyron Horman's stepmother is a profile in contradictions
August 19, 2010

<snipped.

In February, Terri sent James to Roseburg to live with his maternal grandparents.

"I was on a business trip when she made that decision," Kaine said. "She called me on my first day (in California) and said they had gotten into a fight. She couldn't handle it anymore. She was going to call his dad to talk about other options."

Kaine said he didn't want James to move out, but it wasn't his decision. ....

James said he misses his little sister — and would like to see Kaine as well.

"He was like a dad to me," James said. "I lived with him for eight years."

Kaine hopes to talk to James again soon.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html


According to James' Father

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband
June 30th, 2010

<snipped>

James was a student at Lincoln High School in Portland, where he was on the swim team and played trumpet in the school band. Tarver says Terri Moulton Horman sent the boy to Roseburg in March this year because his grades were slipping and he was acting out at home.

“He and Kaine on occasion butted heads, because James is hard-headed,” Tarver says.

<snipped>

http://wweek.com/editorial/3634/14214/


She Said - He Said

Terri Horman e-mail provides insight into family tensions
August 22, 2010

<snipped>

One version - in Horman’s own words - was recently forwarded to KATU News.

“I had my son go to live with my parents so he would be happy - went from D’s to straight A’s within one month of being away from Kaine,” she wrote in an April 6 e-mail. ....

But Kaine Horman told The Oregonian their relationship was typical and that Terri and her son were the ones who didn’t get along. Kaine said he was often the mitigator between the two of them.

But that’s not what Terri’s friend from 24-Hour Fitness, who testified before the grand jury Monday, said they heard. In the weeks before Kyron disappeared, that person said Terri was upset, telling the friend her husband forced her son to move out.

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100511654.html


2012

2.  The Civil Lawsuit - Delay Denied - A Temporary Victory

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Desiree Young's lawyer argues against any delay in civil suit against Terri Horman
August 02, 2012

There is no reason to delay Desiree Young's civil lawsuit against Terri Horman, Young's lawyer argues in a 39-page motion filed in Multnomah County Circuit Court on Thursday.
"The big picture is this: Kyron Horman has been missing for 26 months,'' attorney Elden Rosenthal wrote. "Despite a monumental investigative effort by the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, Terri Horman has not been indicted. The trail is getting cold.''

Any further delay in the civil proceedings would be an injustice to Young, who is Kyron's mother, and could result in records and witnesses disappearing, as well as memories fading, Rosenthal argued.

Rosenthal has advised the court that Terri Horman's son, James Moulton, is set to begin military service in late August, and any delay in the proceedings could result in a "permanent loss'' of his testimony.''

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/08/desiree_youngs_lawyer_argues_a.html


Judge allows lawsuit against Terri Horman to move forward
August 15, 2012

<snipped>

Outside the courtroom, Young became emotional while talking about the ruling.

"I'm looking forward to moving forward," said Young. "I'm excited about this."

Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, was not involved in filing the lawsuit, but in front of the Wall of Hope dedicated to his son, Kaine Horman said he sees this decision as a victory.

"It sounds like the ruling was favorable today," said Kaine Horman. "It sounds like we're going to have a path forward on this particular case, and I think it's a great thing. We need all the information we can get to bring Kyron home, find where he is and get this done."

The case will move forward on Thursday with the deposition of Terri Horman's teenage son James Moulton.

Young's lawyer tells FOX 12 it will take place in Roseburg at a secret location.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/19282839/judge-allows-lawsuit-against-terri-horman-to-move-forward?clienttype=printable


Terri Horman deposition, document production is delayed in Desiree Young's civil suit, judge rules
August 21, 2012

<snipped>

The judge agreed that the lengthy passage of time without an indictment swayed his ruling to allow Young's civil case to proceed.

"This court concludes that the passage of time without indictment is very significant in this particular case and provides a substantial counterweight against the overlapping of allegations,'' Kantor wrote in his ruling.

Kantor's ruling allowed Rosenthal to take a deposition of Horman's biological son, James Moulton, on Thursday, before his planned military service late this month.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/08/terri_horman_deposition_docume.html


3.  The Civil Lawsuit - Delay Granted - A Setback

Multnomah County sheriff cites new 'investigative avenues' in case of missing Kyron Horman
November 27, 2012

New investigative leads in the disappearance of Kyron Horman have spurred prosecutors and the Multnomah County sheriff to seek a delay in the  civil lawsuit Kyron's mother filed against Kyron's stepmother Terri Horman.

A Multnomah County judge this week granted motions by District Attorney Michael Schrunk and Sheriff Dan Staton to delay Desiree Young's civil lawsuit against Terri Horman for nine months. ....

Ironically, Terri Horman's lawyers were unsuccessful this summer when they urged the court to delay the civil proceeding. Terri Horman's lawyers had argued that her constitutional rights would be impaired with a parallel criminal investigation proceeding alongside the civil litigation.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/11/multnomah_county_sheriff_cites.html


Judge approves motion to put civil case against Terri Horman on hold
Posted: Nov 27, 2012

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office confirmed to Fox 12 they have new leads in the disappearance of Kyron Horman.

The revelation comes at the same time it was ruled a lawsuit filed by Kyron Horman's mother against Terri Horman will be put on hold until Aug. 1, 2013. ....

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office said Tuesday the new developments in their investigation stem at least in part from details gathered in the early days of the investigation.

Investigators believe the new leads and further development of old leads could present progress in the case. Kyron has been missing since June 4, 2010.

Kantor ordered the motion to abate the civil case be sealed. Court documents show that decision was "for the reason that a related criminal investigation is still being conducted."

"Premature disclosure of the information contained in these documents could jeopardize that ongoing investigation," said the documents, submitted by Multnomah County District Attorney Michael Schrunk.

They went on to say sealing them will "preserve the integrity of the investigation and will promote the safety of the witnesses involved."

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/20200850/deputies-confirm-new-developments-in-kyron-horman-case

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kptv/KPTV/story_pdfs/motion%20to%20abate.pdf


Multnomah County judge briefly explains why he delayed Desiree Young's civil suit
November 28, 2012

Multnomah County Circuit Judge Henry Kantor explained in a court order signed Wednesday that he was convinced that allowing the civil lawsuit that Kyron Horman's mother filed against the boy's stepmother to proceed "could impact an ongoing criminal investigation.''

In a one-paragraph order signed Wednesday, Kantor said he delayed the civil lawsuit until Aug. 1, unless there's an appropriate motion to vacate it.

Court records show the Multnomah County District Attorney Michael Schrunk and Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton had requested the postponement.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/11/multnomah_county_judge_briefly.html

JAMES MOULTON (Continued)

2013

4.  The Dropped Civil Lawsuit

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Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013

The mother of missing Kyron Horman said Tuesday morning that she has dropped a civil suit asking the boy’s stepmother, Terri Horman, to reveal what she knows about his disappearance.

At a news conference on the steps of the Multnomah County Justice Center, an emotional Desiree Young said that going forward with the lawsuit would interfere with the criminal investigation, something she was not willing to do. ....

Desiree Young filed the $10 million lawsuit in June 2012. That December, Multnomah County judge Henry Kantor delayed the suit on the grounds that it could also impact the criminal investigation.

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron,” Young said Tuesday. “For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case." ....

Young’s attorney Elden Rosenthal told reporters that the DA’s office did not pressure her to drop the lawsuit, but did say that “they do not wish” to release the files.

“There is a pending divorce as you are aware between Kaine and Terri Horman, they’re not willing to release the files in that case either,” Rosenthal said.

“Judge Kantor has instructed us, at the early stages, when we were working on this last year, not to make any requests for documents from Mrs. Horman because of her Fifth Amendment rights.” ....

“We recently learned that DeDe Spicher did appear in front of the grand jury a week or two go; we don’t know what she said,” Rosenthal stated.

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


Kyron Horman's mother to drop civil suit in son's disappearance
August 03, 2013

<snipped>

The suit accused Terri Horman of kidnapping the boy and demanded that the court compel Horman to return him or reveal where his body is. It sought $10 million in damages, with the option to seek additional punitive damages.

But in November, a judge delayed the lawsuit until Aug. 1, saying it could affect an ongoing criminal investigation.

Now, after emerging Tuesday morning from a closed-door status hearing before Judge Henry Kantor, Young and her attorney Elden Rosenthal confirmed that they've dropped the civil suit.

"It is with great disappointment that I make this difficult decision'" Young said. ....

“In order for my lawyers to move forward with the case at this point, it would be necessary for them to seek access to the police criminal investigation files,” Young said. “My lawyers have advised me that the Oregon Public Records Disclosure Law does not provide the release of ongoing police investigation files.”

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron,” Young said. “For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.” ....

DeDe Spicher, Terri Horman's friend, recently testified before a grand jury in the case, according to Rosenthal.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/07/kyron_hormans_mother_to_drop_c.html


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Kaine, MCSO committed to ‘bringing Kyron home’
July 30, 2013

Kaine Horman held a news conference Tuesday afternoon at the Wall of Hope, just hours after the mother of missing Kyron Horman said she dropped a civil suit that may have been keeping the boy’s stepmother, Terri Horman, from revealing what she knows about his disappearance.

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case,” Horman said to reporters around 3:15 p.m. He said law enforcement is “again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that. ...

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


2015

5.  In James Own Words

James Moulton - January 2015

“She kicked me out.  No question about that.  We've been having disagreements for years ... finally told me to leave."

Video Clip:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=694360634010006&permPage=1

THE 2014 CUSTODY AGREEMENT

Over one year following the agreement between Terri and Kaine ... over one year after their respective attorneys and a judge signed off on the agreement which granted Kaine full custody of Kiara while affording Terri "eventual" visitation ... Kiara's mother has yet to have any contact whatsoever with her daughter.

Considering a complaint has not been filed by Terri's attorneys ... a complaint alleging that Kaine has failed to comply with conditions cited in the agreement ... could it be that it is Terri who has failed to comply with the stipulated requirements?

When Kaine conceded to the agreement ... the agreement that would afford Terri "eventual" supervised visitation ... could it be that he was reasonable confident that Terri would fail to comply with all requirements cited in the agreement?  Therefore ... his daughter's safety would be assured while ... at the same time ... any testimony heard or evidence presented in a civil arena challenge would not compromise the ongoing parallel MFH and Kyron Horman investigations.

Is it possible that compliance to certain requirements cited in the agreement could implicate Terri in either the MFH and/or Kyron Horman cases and ... Kaine realized Stephen Houze would not allow that to happen?

In other words ... could the agreement be considered a win/win for both Kaine and the ongoing investigations?

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June 2013

1.  The Civil Lawsuit Dropped

Kaine, MCSO committed to ‘bringing Kyron home’
July 30, 2013

Kaine Horman held a news conference Tuesday afternoon at the Wall of Hope, just hours after the mother of missing Kyron Horman said she dropped a civil suit that may have been keeping the boy’s stepmother, Terri Horman, from revealing what she knows about his disappearance.

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case,” Horman said to reporters around 3:15 p.m. He said law enforcement is “again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that." ...

During Tuesday’s press conference, Kaine Horman did express disappointment over Desiree Young’s dropped civil suit.

“At the same time,” Horman said, “trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities.” The daughter’s mother is Terri Horman.

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


June 2014

2.  The Custody Agreement

Kaine Horman will keep full custody of daughter
June 4, 2014

Kaine Horman will retain full custody of his 5-year-old daughter Kiara, a judge ruled Tuesday. The girl's mother, Terri Moulton Horman, will eventually be allowed to have supervised visits.

<snipped>

The judgment issued Wednesday determined that Terri Horman can initiate contact with Kiara through the exchange of cards and letters. Terri must participate in parent training with a knowledgeable instructor before she can be reunited with Kiara.

Kiara must also be enrolled in counseling to address issues including the reconciliation with her mother and the status of Kyron's disappearance.

"I believe where we are today is still keeping my daughter safe, that status quo is still maintained, so I think we are doing what we need to be doing.".

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine-Horman-awarded-full-custody-of-daughter--261867341.html

Custody Agreement:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


June 2015

3.  Fifteen Months Later - No Contact with Kiara

Father of Kyron Horman: 'We need to bring him home'
June 2, 2015

<snipped>

"You know they've done a lot of due diligence in the searching around here and as the searches continue and nothing is found the probability goes up that he is still out there and he's with somebody else," said the missing boy's father.

Kaine Horman believes Kyron's stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy's disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.

"Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.

Terri Horman has not been charged in the case. She has been living with her parents in Roseburg and listed a Eugene address on government records.

Kaine Horman says Terri has had "no contact of any kind" with their six-year old daughter after a lengthy divorce and custody battle.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/

THE 2014 CUSTODY AGREEMENT (Continued)

In the 2014 custody agreement ... rather than settle for "eventual" supervised visits with Kiara ... why did Terri's $350,000 attorney not pursue the quest for joint custody in the civil arena?  Hey ... in five long years ... why has Stephen Houze not FOLLOWED THROUGH with a court challenge to the restraining/no contact orders that have denied his client access to her daughter?

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October 2010

Respondent and Her Lawyers are Aware

Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


July 2013

The Bottom Line

Kaine's Attorney - Peter Engel - July 13, 2013

“Ms. Horman has been in seclusion for three years. She refuses to cooperate with law enforcement. She intends to exercise her privilege against self-incrimination. She has not contested the FAPA Order since it was originally issued in June of 2010. She has chosen to forego a relationship with the parties’ daughter Kiara, now four years old. ...”

http://www.koin.com/2013/09/13/hearing-over-horman-divorce-proceedings/

FAMILY DYNAMICS

Could it be the disappearing of Kyron was all about a misguided attempt by Terri to save a failing marriage?

Think about it.  Could it be that the willingness to relinquish custody to Desiree and ... the emails expressing an extreme hatred of Kyron implies ... contrary to outward appearances ... Terri had failed to embrace Kaine's son as her own?

When the dynamics are considered ... in hindsight ... Kaine refusal not to allow Desiree custody of Kyron is regrettable but ... when all is said and done ... as a parent I selfishly would not have given up my child if I were in his place.  Often children of divorced parents play one against the other.  Hey ... from the age of 14 our eldest son ... rebelling against expectations ... reminded hubby and I time and time again that he wished he could live somewhere else.  It never ceases to amaze us that he chose to live at home until the age of 21.

The following article in its entirety is a good read.

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Kyron's mother, Desiree Young, appears solo on Today Show saying Terri Horman had 'severe hatred for Kyron'
August 10, 2010

<snipped>

Young, who became visibly emotional on camera, explained that a year prior to Kyron's disappearance, she tried to get custody of him.

"Kaine told me it was not an option on several occasions and it was a point of contention with us," Young said. "Kyron on many occasions told me he wanted to come and live with me and on a couple of different occasions, Terri had called me specifically so that I could talk to Kyron because he was so upset and Terri, personally wanted me to take Kyron."

On Friday, police showed Young e-mails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Young said the emails reveal "a severe hatred for Kyron."

"She blames a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron. It was a huge point of contention in their marriage and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron," Young said. "I now believe, without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/kyrons_mother_desiree_young_ap.html

AN OFFICIAL FOUNDATION?

When Kyon's parents' ongoing briefings with investigators are considered ... I would assume that Desiree's words regarding her son's case are derived from an official foundation.

Think about it.  Investigative updates must have been convincing.  Desiree's position has been unwavering for five years ... Desiree's position that implies Kyron left the school with Terri ... Desiree's position that Dede was an accomplice in the disappearing.

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2010

1.  The Official Foundation

Portland Public Schools Spokesman - Matt Shelby - June 7, 2010

Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.  He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.
http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28


Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010

Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m.  The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


Multnomah County Sheriff Captain - Jason Gates - June 21, 2010

There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


Portland Public Schools Spokesman - Matt Shelby - June 21, 2010

"Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


2010

2.  De Facto Suspect

Terri's Attorney - Peter Bunch - August 24, 2010

"Wife filed a motion to abate the dissolution proceeding because she is a de facto suspect in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. ...."
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/terri-horman-court-memo.pdf

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html


Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf


2012

3.  Prime Suspect

Judge Kantor - August 18, 2012

"The Plaintiff is Kyron's mother.  The defendant is a prime suspect in the investigation."
http://media.kgw.com/documents/kyron+judge+doc+821.pdf

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/24/12312628/


2013

4.  Food for Thought

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree Young - September 1, 2013

"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)." (Video 5:15):
http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html


Terri's Attorney - Peter Bunch - October 30, 2013

“There is no doubt she is in the cross hairs of the investigation.”

“There is no doubt, whatsoever Miss Horman is the focus of the investigation.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/104507829.html


2015

5.  Desiree Davidson Young - In Her Own Words

May 21, 2015:  "Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


May 29, 2015:  " .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


June 4, 2015: "It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


June 4, 2015:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


July 20, 2015:  "They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater

Luke 3:17
"For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."


FAITH AND PURPOSE

Desiree Davidson Young - March 6, 2011

"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up." ....

"I have full confidence that God will reveal all and then we will be able to bring Kyron home. He is not ready for us to know everything yet, but soon he will. We must learn from all that is going on as hard as it is, God teaches us through the hard times in our lives. And man is this one of those hard times, the hardest ever.  We must honor Kyron by doing something good with it and that is what I intend to do. Thank you all for your support and thoughts."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Desiree-3/133864036644663

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Loving Natalee - A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith - Beth Holloway - Sunny Tillman

Page 103: I think about what just happened, pondering the human spirit.  Apparently it can withstand a lot more than I every dreamed possible.  Mom is right; God is good.  All my life I've heard people of many faiths talk about "taking it to the cross and turning it over to the Lord" or just simply "turning it over.  Not the work that has to be done.  Just the burden.  I cast it upon Him so that I may be sustained.  And I am renewed, resilient.  Thankful for however long this resurgence in energy will carry me.  I will pick up one foot and put it down.  Then the other one will follow.  I will breathe.  There is much to be done.

Page 230:  "I can't say for sure if we'll ever know that answer to whether my daughter is alive or not.  I know it doesn't look good.  But just as that old metal spiral staircase rose from the ashes when our lake house burned down, so too faith stands strong in the remains of this devastating loss.  And just as my Dad built another house around that staircase, I will build another life around hope and faith.  It won't ever be the same.  But I pray that it will, at the very least, be useful."

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Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith eBook edition
by Holloway, Beth
ISBN: 9780061538681
Publisher: HarperCollins e-books
Year Published: 2007

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THE REAL STORY

Why?

Desiree Young - Open Letter - February 2, 2014

"Terri Horman took something wonderful from this world that we live in, she took my son. That is the real story. Why does she insist on not telling us what she did with him that terrible day? Why does she insist on not talking, when the rest of us have cleared ourselves in this investigation? And why has she lied on numerous occasions not just to me, but to my entire family, law enforcement, her friends and her own attorneys about Kyron and her role in his disappearance? Why has she failed 2 polygraphs and walked out on the 3rd after failing that one as well? Why does she have a right to do all of the things that Kyron doesn’t; live life, go for walks, visit with neighbors, visit with her family, go outside, play with her dog, have Christmas, and just be here? Why does she hate him, why does she blame him for everything wrong in her marriage, why would Kyron have to bear that blame?  And the most important question of all; Why can’t I have him back, have him home, to hug and love as I always have? Why not Terri? What is the reason you can’t give me my son back?"

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


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THE CORNELIUS PASS SEARCHES

Dede may not have been afforded immunity until 2013.  She may not have appeared before the Grand Jury until 2013.  However ... according to her attorney in August 2010 there was cooperation between his client and investigators.  Hey ... Chad Stavely articulated in his own words ... his own words that were captured on video ... that it was only a matter of time until THE indictment against Terri came down.

Think about it.  A white pick up was observed twice in the the Cornelius Pass area ... once at 3:00 PM on the day that Kyron went missing and the other at 2:00 AM on the morning of June 5th.  Considering Terri and Kaine were at home meeting the school bus at 3:00 PM on June 4, 2010 ... speculation abounded that it was Dede who was the driver of that white pick up.

On June 6th ... two days following Kyron's disappearance ... Jim Kelley claimed that two official searches had already been conducted in the Cornelius Pass area.  Could it be that a further search was initiated in August 2010 as a result of a tip that investigators had gleaned from Dede and/or her cell phone /computer?

Could it be that disposable phones were the focus of the August 2010 official search and a September 2013 private search in the Cornelius Pass area ... disposable phones that may have been purchased prior to June 4th ... disposable phones that may have been used in the planning and execution stages encompassing the disappearing of Kyron?


CONNECT THE DOTS

June 2010

Day 3: FBI calls in criminal profiler in search for missing Skyline boy; interviews with students and parents begin
June 06, 2010

<snipped>

Neighbors stop by Brooks Hill Historic church, across the street from the school, to mull over the investigation. "This kind of thing is unheard of," says Jim Kelley, 50.

Kelley, who lives about a mile and a half down hill, at the end of a winding, secluded country lane off Cornelius Pass, said police, federal agents, K-9 teams and helicopters scoured the area Saturday.

"We had two odd sightings of a vehicle on our road Friday," Kelley said. Around 3 p.m., he and a neighbor reported seeing a white pick-up truck with a female driver pull to the end of the long road, idle and then turn around. Then again at 2 a.m. Saturday morning, a similar white pickup truck appeared, idled and when a neighbor loosed her dogs, eased away."

"A, it was strange to have a car there, any car there, that we didn't know, and B, it was strange to have a vehicle come down our dead-end road twice in the same day, hours after a little boy goes missing," said Kelley. "That's beyond rare."

Kelley said authorities have twice searched the deep ravine, creek and railroad tracks located near the end of his street by air and on foot.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/day_three_search_continues_hun.html


July 2010

Blink - July 23, 2010

17.  Sondra says:
July 23, 2010 at 1:51 am

Could DeDe be the red head in truck ….

This is exactly who I believe was in that truck. She is FOS also, her vehicle was processed as well.  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-16/


August 2010

Crews Search Again In Kyron Horman Case
August 8, 2010

Crews returned to northwest Portland on Saturday in the search for missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

FOX 12 has confirmed that a tip from DeDe Spicher -- a friend of Kyron's stepmother Terri Horman -- is what sparked the search.

Search teams were seen near a field off Cornelius Pass Road, about one mile south of Skyline School. Kyron was last seen at the school June 4 and his stepmother was the last person known to have seen him.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/news/24556227/detail.html


Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
August 18, 2010

<snipped>

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

I would be, frankly, surprised if TerriHorman did not eventually face charges in this case, Stavley said. I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


Blink - August 19, 2010

5.  ".... I do not usually say this, but in the interest of disclosure I feel I must.  Dede absolutely creeps me out. I mean, everything about her. No malice intended, and I cannot put my finger on it." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-56/#comments


September 2013

Mom of missing Kyron won't 'let Terri win'
Sunday, September 1, 2013

<snipped>

Volunteers with the group Kyron Horman's World Soldiers set up a staging area in northwest Portland off Skyline Boulevard. They recruited two non-profit search agencies, and said they had an overwhelming response from volunteers.

Aided by 10 search dog teams, around 60 volunteers each day scoured the area around Skyline Boulevard and Germantown Road -- the same area searchers combed shortly after Kyron disappeared in 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.koin.com/news/marion-county/volunteers-continue-search-for-kyron


Kyron Horman's mom: Weekend search turned up possible evidence
Posted: Sep 01, 2013

During a news conference at Skyline School Sunday evening, Desiree Young said a search she organized for her missing son, Kyron Horman, was successful.

About 60 volunteers, two nonprofit organizations and 10 search dogs focused on the area around Northwest Germantown Road and Skyline Boulevard.

The search started Saturday morning and wrapped up Sunday.

"We're not going to find Kyron if we're not searching," said Young.

Young said the search turned up "a lot of things and possibly evidence," but she would not elaborate on what items were found. She said the items were turned over to the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. A spokesman for MCSO said they received the items and were processing them to determine whether it's related to the Kyron's case or not. MCSO was aware of the search but was not involved.

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http://www.kptv.com/story/23314551/kyron-hormans-mom-weekend-search-turned-up-possible-evidence


Desiree Young - September 5, 2013

42.  quizzical says:
September 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Posted today at about 3:20pm on Anti-Terri

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Desiree Davidson Young Also…DeDe – why use “throw away” phones to call and talk to Terri on and after 6/4/10 if you have nothing to hide and you are innocent. Oh and wait that means you were in contact with Terri after March 2010????? So many holes in this story I can’t even keep up. And those are just the ones that are public and we can talk about. And yes not one bit of this is about Kyron or finding Kyron. What happened to “find Kyron first”?

Ky I love you my sweetie and I pray that your life will become the number one priority again to people like this. Please know that I love you and would give my life for you. Momma’s still here. ....

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-3/


May 2015

Desiree Young - May 31, 2015

"We've found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected  to Kyron. ...."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html

WHERE WAS KIARA?

Five months later ... Kaine is "pretty" confident Kiara was with Terri and Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010.  When ongoing briefings by investigations are considered ... why is Kiara's father only "pretty" confident?  When inquiring minds from the get go want to know whether or not Kiara was with Kiara ... why has there not been an official release confirming or denying?  Could it be that one or two accomplices were waiting in the white truck with the toddler?

Think about it.  Sari Shanti ... owner of Magic Cleaners ... claimed in a 2013 KGW interview that Terri was "alone" when she entered the establishment on the morning when Kyron when missing.  Did Sari tell the same story when disposed by Terri's attorney?  Will she be a defence or prosecution witness in an eventual trial?


November 2010

Pretty Confident

Kaine Horman - November 15, 2010

"Lay out the scenarios of everything that could have happened to him that day," said Kaine Monday. "Every scenario that has him alive still today ... look at any of those scenarios and have your child have to witness another child going through that right in front of their face; it's horrific, I don't care how you describe it. So yeah, I think he's alive ... I think it was an awful day; I sure hope she did not witness what happened that day but I'm pretty confident that she was there based upon what we know."

We have not yet received confirmation as to whether Terri had Kiara with her when she is believed to have gone into the science fair at Kryon's Skyline School shortly before Kyron is said to have vanished.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/108250924.html?tab=video&c=y


September 2013

Confident

Sari Shanti - September 16, 2013

Video Excerpt (1:25)

Kyle Iboshi:  Terri Horman's lawyers also hope to question the owner of Magic Cleaners in Beaverton.  She says that Terri came in  ALONE and dropped off some clothes the day Kyron disappeared.

Sari Shanti:  She dropped off two shirts for cleaning.  There was nobody with her.

Reporter:  A little kid?

Sari Shanti: No.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html


May 2015

Food for Thought

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015

<snipped>

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation.

<snipped>
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html

MAGIC CLEANERS?

June 2010

Magic Cleaners - The Missing Link

Terri Horman - Timeline in Her Own Words - June 5, 2010

“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, was reported to be vanished from Skyline School during a science fair. ....

"I left the school at 9 .... I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Kitty to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them."

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


July 2010

Strike Two

Little Boy Lost
July 26, 2010

<snipped>

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

And there was something else that gave Desiree and Tony a sinking feeling that something wasn't right. They say Terri's cell phone records apparently didn't match up with where she said she was on the morning of Kyron's disappearance.

TONY YOUNG: That to me is strike two. That's huge… There's starting to be some structural problems with what she's saying at that point. And then it continues to stack up.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/little-boy-lost/#.VXxWTvlViko


September 2013

The Depositions?

Judge: Terri Horman's lawyers cannot question investigator
September 16, 2013

<snipped>

Investigators said for years that Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron before he disappeared from Skyline Elementary in July, 2010. But her attorneys said Friday that was not the case. ....

Judge Kantor Monday granted a motion filed by Kaine Horman's attorneys to stop Terri Horman's attorneys from questioning deputy O'Donnell.

However, Terri Horman's attorneys can conduct their own investigation. They will be allowed to interview witnesses, including teachers at Skyline Elementary and employees of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24-hour Fitness. They will not be allowed to question Skyline students.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html


May 2015

Food for Thought

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015

<snipped>

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html

Desiree Young - February 2, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop

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THE EMAILS

Desiree Young

Severe Hatred - Great Detail

Kyron Horman's Mother Speaks Out
11/15/2010

Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.

I now believe without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way

<snipped>

http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247


Kaine Horman

Adds to the Pile

Missing Kyron's Dad Points Finger at Stepmom
Kaine Horman suspects his estranged wife knows what happened to his son.
11/19/2010

Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...

Reporter: Did they only solidify your belief that Terri's responsible?

Kaine: Everything that we see moving forward just adds to the pile.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1

THE WITNESSES?

September 2013

It's Not True

Stephen Houze Claims - September 13, 2013

"It's not true," Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day. "We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true."

http://www.kptv.com/story/23425918/attorney-terri-horman-wasnt-last-person-to-see-kyron-horman-at-school


October 2013

The Proof?

Kaine's Attorney Requests - October 9, 2013

The court documents indicate Kaine Horman's lawyer requested information from Terri Horman on the person or persons you contend have knowledge that Terri Horman was not the last person to see Kyron Horman on June 4, 2010 at Skyline School.

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/25/12570816/


Kaine's Attorney Demands - October 10, 2013

At the previous hearing, Terri Horman's attorney claimed he can prove his client was not the last person to see Kyron at Skyline School.

Now, Kaine Horman's attorney is demanding access to any documents that led Terri's legal team to make that assertion.

http://www.kptv.com/story/23657846/terri-horman-divorce-case-back-in-court-today


August 2014

According to Terri

Terri Horman - August 14, 2014

"He (Stephen Houze) stated in court I was in fact not the last person to have seen Kyron.  My lawyer has witnesses to prove it."

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/08/four_women_who_opposed_terri_h.html


May 2015

Food for Thought

No Further Explanation - May 31, 2015

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html

DEDE SPICHER

Could it be that in the summer of 2013 ... Dede's attorney and the DA did finally reached a plea deal?  Dede would be afforded immunity from prosecution in exchange for the truth regarding not only Dede's participation but also the participation of others as it pertained to the secreting of Kyron Horman.

Could it be that the truth WAS affirmed via a polygraph and a GJ testimony?

Could it be that there was another condition linked to Dede's plea deal?  Could it be that Dede's cooperation was required in subtly affording Terri's attorney with a heads-up that his  client had been busted?  Logic dictates that Dede's alleged immunity plea deal revelation in the interview would raise a red flag that Stephen Houze could not ignore?

Could it be that LE anticipated that the revealed immunity deal would motivate Terri's attorney to conclude that a negotiated plea deal would be in the best interest of his client prior to THE indictment against Terri coming down ... THE indictment that Dede's own attorney referenced?  In other words ... the strategy hopefully would convince Houze if the Kyron Horman case went to trial that Dede ... the friend Terri had not spoken to in three years ... would testify on behalf of the Prosecution?

It makes sense that the major networks and other media outlets were bending over backwards for their own exclusive with Dede following the August 2013 Blink interview.  Think about it. There has not been a peep from Dede over the past two years.  Why?

Could it be that this wannabe detective suspects a conspiracy where there is none?

2.  DEDE SPICHER


July 2010

We Implore

Kyron's family implores Terri's friend to cooperate with police
Published: Jul 22, 2010

<snipped>

Here is the statement released by Desiree and Tony Young, and Kaine Horman:

“We have been briefed by law enforcement on the most recent developments in Kyron’s case.  We have been informed that they have identified a person that has been in close communication with Terri Moulton Horman since Kyron went missing and her name is DeDe Spicher.  She has not only been in close communication with Terri but has been providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son.  Additional information provided shows that she is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron’s disappearance, not to cooperate as well.  We implore DeDe Spicer (sic) to come forward and cooperate with the investigators in any way that they need in order to assist us in finding our son.  We will state further that if we find out through the investigation that she caused a delay in us finding our son due to her lack of cooperation, we will pursue civil remedies in this matter.

“We as a family cannot understand how anyone can look at Kyron’s smiling face, having information and choose not to help bring him home.  Please remember what this is about, it’s about bringing a wonderful little boy back to his family.”

Desiree, Tony, and Kaine

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99076504.html

3.  DEDE SPLICHER

August 2010

A June 4th Dede/Terri Connection?

DeDe, Terri unaccounted for at same time on June 4
August 12, 2010

PORTLAND, Ore. -- DeDe Spicher and Terri Moulton-Horman were both unaccounted for during the same period of time the day Kyron Horman disappeared, based on information revealed by investigators and on information from KGW sources. ....

Sources also tell KGW that, during the period of time DeDe was unaccounted for, her car remained at the property where she had been gardening. According to sources, that detail is significant because, if DeDe left the property as investigators believe, she would have had to leave in another vehicle.

Meanwhile, at a Wednesday press conference, investigators focused on the movements of the Horman family pickup truck on the day Kyron disappeared. Investigators specifically asked for any witnesses who might have seen the pickup in that same area of Skyline between 10:15 and 11:30 a.m. Sources tell KGW that investigators identified that as the time between when Terri left a Beaverton Fred Meyer and her next known stop, at her personal gym.

These timelines leave a one-hour, fifteen-minute block of time in the middle of the day Kyron disappeared where the whereabouts of both Terri and DeDe was still under investigation.  At Wednesday's press conference, deputies focused in on specific roads in the Skyline area where the family's white truck may have been during that window of time. ....

Investigators spent Sunday searching the home where Spicher gardened the morning of June 4.

The person who owns the house where Spicher gardened, who is cooperating with investigators, told investigators she called Spicher on her cell phone but she didn't answer, the source told KGW. A person who was working with Spicher, who is also cooperating with investigators, told them of trying to unsuccessfully find Spicher. Both people have told investigators they have no idea where Spicher was during that period of time.

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html


Secret Phones

Terri's Friend - August 6, 2010

KATU now knows that friends purchased cell phones to communicate with the stepmother of missing Kyron Horman after the second grader disappeared two months ago.  Additionally, one of those friends did so using a fake name, according to multiple sources on Friday.  A friend of Terri Horman said the secret phones were intended to provide some level of privacy with their conversations, which they felt were being monitored by law enforcement.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100161574.html


Secret Conversations

Dede Spicher - People Magazine Interview - August 18, 2010

The pair also assumed they were under surveillance. "Any conversations that we wanted to have, we'd go out into the yard," Spicher says. "When we were in the house, we'd talk about the kids, we'd talk about her marriage, talked about her family."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20413793,00.html


Bottom Line

Blink - August 7, 2010

44. " .... What kind of conversations do you need to have outside of LE monitoring when their is a 7 year old missing would be my question."  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comments


THE indictment

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
August 18, 2010

<snipped>

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

I would be, frankly, surprised if TerriHorman did not eventually face charges in this case, Stavley said. I'd be surprised if THE indictment didn't come down.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


October 2012

The Deposition

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
October 23, 2012

Desiree Young's lawyer has filed a motion asking a judge to compel DeDe Spicher, a friend of Terri Moulton Horman's, to answer his questions after she declined to answer 142 questions during a deposition he took earlier this month stemming from Young's civil lawsuit against Horman.

Multnomah County sheriff's investigators looking into the disappearance of Kyron Horman, a second-grader who went missing from Skyline School on June 4, 2010, were interested in the whereabouts of Spicher on that day.

Spicher declined to answer any questions posed by Young's lawyers on Oct. 5 that involved Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmom, or Kyron -- each time asserting her Fifth Amendment constitutional right not to incriminate herself.

Spicher also declined to answer questions about where she was on June 4, 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


July 2013

The Grand Jury

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit against stepmom
July 30, 2013

A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney.  He said that DeDe Spicher has testified before the grand jury for the criminal case.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify.

<snipped>

http://www.krem.com/news/217645481.html


September 2013

The Immunity Deal

Dede Spicher says she signed immunity deal in Kyron case
September 5, 2013

The latest development in the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman involves Dede Spicher, a close friend of Kyron s stepmom Terri Horman.

In an online article, Dede Spicher claims she has passed a polygraph, signed an immunity deal with prosecutors, and agreed to tell all before the grand jury investigating the case. ....

In an October 2012 deposition, Spicher pleaded the 5th to a number questions about the Kyron case. The questions ranged from Kyron's disappearance to whether she was a friend of Terri Horman.

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/25/12560426/


DeDe Spicher breaks silence in interview with crime blog
Posted: Sep 04, 2013

<snipped>

Legal analyst Bruce McCain shared his take about the new developments.

"It's not at all uncommon or unthinkable that the district attorney would be making an immunity deal with somebody associated with Kyron Horman's disappearance," said legal analyst Bruce McCain about the blog.

McCain did, however, question why Spicher would share the revelations with a blog, when she refused to comment during previous depositions.

"If the goal was the get her story out, she could have picked frankly a better venue," McCain said.

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office issued a "no comment" when FOX 12 inquired about the blog's report that Spicher had been "unofficially" cleared.

The district attorney's office also issued a "no comment."

http://www.kptv.com/story/23343156/dede-spicher-breaks-silence-with-interview-on-crime-blog


June 2015

She's One of Them

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance

+++++


The BOC-Dede Spicher Interview

Part 1 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/#comments

Part 2 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/comment-page-1/#comments

RECENT CASE UPDATES IN A NUTSHELL

May 2015

This is the Moment

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


Everything in Writing

Desiree Young - May 29, 2015

" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


June 2015

Our Trusted Circle

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


One of Them

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


Just a Technicality

Desiree Young - June 5, 2015

“She’s (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality – she’s definitely a person of interest.”

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html


July 2015

All About Strategy

Desiree Davidson Young - July 19, 2015

"Well law enforcement is all about strategy, it doesn't make sense to the rest of us but they only get one shot to get it right.  The day that Casey Anthony took Caylee out of this life, change the way that law enforcement will proceed on cases and how they prosecute all missing child cases.  They won't put her in Jail until we have Kyron."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.852969098126346/852969098126346/?type=1&theater


Lots of Progress Recently

Desiree Young - July 20, 2015

"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/

Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Aug 9, 2010

Long before news of the alleged murder-for-hire plot and sexting affairs, it seems Terri Moulton Horman knew suspicions were settled on her, according to e-mails written by Horman and obtained first by KATU News.

“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, was reported to be vanished from Skyline School during a science fair. Investigators say Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron. ....

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


1.  IN HER OWN WORDS - THE MALE CHAPERONE

June 2010

The Day After

Terri Horman - In Her Own Words - June 5, 2010

" ... I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list."

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


However ....


The Two Left the School Together

Portland Public Schools Spokesman - Matt Shelby - June 7, 2010

Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.  He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.

http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28


According to School Staff

Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010

Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m.  The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


Contrary to Previous Reports

Multnomah County Sheriff Captain - Jason Gates - June 21, 2010

There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


The Last School Staff to see Kyron

Portland Public Schools Spokesman - Matt Shelby - June 21, 2010

"Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


2.  IN HER OWN WORDS - THE APPOINTMENT

June 2010

The Disconnect

Terri Horman - In Her  Own Words - June 5, 2010

"The teacher thought I said I was going to take Kyron with Kitty for a doctor’s appt.  I said I was going to look at other exhibits - how do you mess that up?"

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


However ....


May 2015

Everything in Writing

Desiree Young - May 29, 2015

" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055

 

It makes sense that Kaine Horman's words in a court document challenging the modification of the Restraining Order ... words pertaining to three polygraphs ... were derived from an official foundation.

Terri Horman - The Polygraphs

The Petition
October 25, 2010

Petitioner, Kaine Horman by and through his attorney Laura E. Rackner and Gearing,
Rackner, Engel, & McGrath LLP, responds to Respondent's Motion to Modify Restraining
Order to Prevent Abuse Regarding Parenting Time as follows: ....

Pages 4-5

Respondent failed the first polygraph test law enforcement gave her regarding Kyron's disappearance.

Law enforcement requested a second polygraph within days after the first. She appeared for that second test, but walked out in the middle of the test.

Law enforcement requested a third test- Respondent resisted the test for approximately one week. She finally agreed and took the third polygraph test. Shecompleted the third test and failed again

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html

1.  A SEALED INDICTMENT?

The following document filing ... which is a good read in its entirety ... says it all in regards to Kaine and Desiree's five year focus on Terri in their ongoing quest for answers encompassing the disappearance of Kyron and ....

It says it all in regards to Terri's attorney not following through with a legal challenge to the restraining/no contact orders in the past five years that have prevented his client from contact with her daughter and ....

It says it all in regards to Kaine and Desiree not following through with challenges in the civil area ... challenges that would compromise the MFH and Kyron Horman cases.

Could it be that a sealed indictment against Terri exists ... a sealed indictment that will be served when ALL the dots leading to a secreted Kyron have been connected?

The Affidavit

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


An Indictment is Out There?

Blink - October 26, 2010

27.  .... This has been one of my primary reasons for suspecting that there is an indictment of some type out there. B

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/comment-page-25/#comments


++++++++


2.  THOSE IN THE KNOW

Something tells me that legal eagles with a connection to the Kyron Horman case were privy to the existence of a sealed indictment.  Think about it.  The DA has yet to name Terri Horman as a Person of Interest however ....

THE Indictment

Chad Stavley - August 18, 2010

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case.  I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


De Facto Suspect

Peter Bunch - August 24, 2010

"Wife filed a motion to abate the dissolution proceeding because she is a de facto suspect in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. ...."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/terri-horman-court-memo.pdf


Prime Suspect

Judge Kantor - August 18, 2012

"The Plaintiff is Kyron's mother.  The defendant is a prime suspect in the investigation."

http://media.kgw.com/documents/kyron+judge+doc+821.pdf


Cross Hairs of the Investigation - Focus of the Investigation

Peter Bunch - October 30, 2013

“There is no doubt she is in the cross hairs of the investigation.”

“There is no doubt, whatsoever Miss Horman is the focus of the investigation.”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/104507829.html


Not in the Public Interest

Judge Randolph Lee Garrison - September 10, 2014

"Your connection to the Kyron Horman disappearance is something of great public interest.  There are folks that say that you have nothing to do with it. There are others that think that you have.  As long as this matter remains unsolved, unresolved and until more information is given by you about that, it doesn't seem to be in the public's interest to change your name."

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/12/terri_horman_withdrew_petition.html

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Reward for Kyron Horman: Sheriff's office offers $50,000 for information in 5-year-old case of missing Portland boy
May 28, 2015

As the fifth anniversary of Kyron Horman's disappearance approaches, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is publicizing its ongoing $50,000 reward for information that leads to the discovery of the missing boy. ...
 
Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton and District Attorney Rod Underhill declined to answer questions about the status of the case, but instead the sheriff's office put out a four-paragraph statement Thursday

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/sheriffs_office_offers_50000_r.html


MCSO Statement
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/KH%20Missing%20PR(1).pdf

THE SEPTEMBER 2015 SEARCH

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015

<snipped>

In September, Young is planning another search.

She hopes to bring in 15 tracking and cadaver dog teams from Washington, Idaho, California and Florida to search in the Portland area, but wouldn't say where. She's organized several other searches in the past.

She said they've turned up evidence implicating Terri Moulton Horman, who was married to Kaine Horman at the time Kyron went missing. ....

"We've found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected to Kyron," Young said, referring to the previous searches. "She's not going to talk until we have evidence to confront her. We have to find it."

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation. She has never faced charges.

Young said she's coordinating the search with the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, but said the agency wouldn't take part. She plans to keep searching until every inch of territory is covered.

"There are so many different areas that have to be searched thoroughly," Young said. "It's a big canvas. There is no way that law enforcement can do that."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman

THROUGH IT ALL - AMAZING STRENGTH - MAKING A DIFFERENCE

Kyron's Mom

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Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015

It's said that time heals all wounds. For Desiree Young, it's not worked out that way.

The pain she first felt five years ago when her son Kyron disappeared hasn't softened. If anything, her emotions are more ragged today, she said. Tears flow often. The gnawing hole inside hasn't filled, not even a little.

"It doesn't get easier with time," Young said. "I still wake up crying and praying, hoping today will be the day."

Young tries to keep busy. She's a budget analyst at Southern Oregon University. She goes to therapy. She supports families as coordinator for Team Hope, a group of parent volunteers for the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.

Young addresses at least one conference every year that's sponsored by the center. She also has shared her perspective as a parent of a missing child at nationwide law enforcement conferences, including for the Amber Alert system and Child Abduction Response Team Training under the U.S. Department of Justice.

CART teams are made up of professionals from various disciplines, including city and county police agencies as well as counselors, educators and specialists in  search and rescue. When a child goes missing, they work together, something that doesn't always come naturally to independent agencies.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html


Natalee's Mom

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Loving Natalee - A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith - Beth Holloway - Sunny Tillman

Page 200:  "My child.  My beautiful daughter.  I can't save her.  It's too late.  Natalee is gone. And second to the great tragedy of losing her is if we fail to learn from what has happened.  I could be any parent in the world.  And no parent should ever go through this experience.  Natalee could be anyone's daughter.  And in these thoughts a new path is made clear.  There is something I can do.  Many people reached out to us, and I can now reach back to them.  It might be too late to save Natalee, but it's not too late to save others.  And it's time now to make good on my pledge. It's time now to make good on my pledge to stand before high-school and college students, law enforcement professionals, victims' rights groups, travelers of all ages, and anyone interested in personal safety to share Natalee's story and our hard lessons, so that OTHERS MIGHT LEARN from them."

Page 219: "In each city I have the privilege to speak to several high schools, churches, or law enforcement and civic groups.  This translates to thousands of youths and adults.  Delivering this safety message is my triumph over devastation.  If gives me great joy and is tremendously rewarding work.  I think that I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if it means that I can prevent another family from going through our tragic experience.  If even just one young person in tens of thousands is saved, then it's well worth it."


Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith eBook edition
by Holloway, Beth
ISBN: 9780061538681
Publisher: HarperCollins e-books
Year Published: 2007

BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE KYRON HORMAN CASE

It makes sense if the father of Kyron had not been convinced in ongoing investigative briefings that "probable" evidence exist that Terri was involved in the secreting of his son ... in five long years the focal point in his desperate quest to find his son would shifted.


In the Beginning

Blink - June 29, 2010

6.  .... "I believe that Kaine has learned information that in order to protect Kiara and his rights he was advised to do exactly as he did." ....  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-files-for-restraining-order-and-divorce-from-terri-horman/comment-page-1/


Blink - June 29, 2010

47.  .... "I believe Kaine is aware of the who/why but not the where. My thoughts and prayers are with him, Kyron, and the entire family today. I would sincerely appreciate it if whomever knows where Kyron is come clean privately. ... It's time."  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-15/


Kaine Horman - Unsealed Restraining Order - July 8, 2010

"I believe the respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probably cause to believe the above two statements are true."

http://www.kptv.com/news/24186798/detail.html

http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/0708/24186795.pdf


Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


One Year Later

Kaine Horman - June 3, 2011

"In light of something not breaking, coming forward quickly, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. This could go on for two, three, four years, potentially without closure."

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyron-1-year-anniversary-123042478.html


Two Years Later

Kaine Horman - June 3, 2012

Does he think Kyron is still alive?

"Yes, ma'am, I sure do," Horman said.

Does he think he's sequestered somewhere?

"That's pretty much the only option at this point," he said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/06/does_kaine_horman_think_his_so.html


Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012

Video Excerpt (1:40)

In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have mounting evidence against the boy's stepmother.  "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/


Three Years Later

Kaine Horman - July 30, 2013

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case.  Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Four Years Later

Kaine Horman - February 20, 2014

"There is nothing more important to me than keeping my daughter safe and bringing him [Kyron] home.  We have work to do. A lot of it is happening outside the courtroom, so we have a lot of things that need to get done. We are continuing to work with investigators and we're continuing to drive closure to his [Kyron's] case."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html


Five Years Later

Kaine Horman - May 30, 2015

"She (Terri) has become a dead end as far as making progress,  Someone else was involved. There's someone we don't know about."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015

" .... It just takes that one.  It takes that one connection, that one sighting, that one piece of information that we don't have and this is over."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/

Luke 3:17
"For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."


Above Your Need To Know

Blink - June 23, 2010

46. .... "Let me say this- I am a fan of this MCSO. From Dan Staton to Jason Gates and his team, they have done everything right in my eyes.  I have studied his election campaign, and his career, and this guy is a cops cop and a people’s sheriff. This community is lucky to have him.  That said, I also understand people’s frustration that their information is validated.  I am asking that folks put this Investigative team in a position of faith and trust, above your need to know. This is about Kyron, not us." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-3/#comments


We have Knowledge of Things

Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton - October 7, 2010

"I know I'm taking a long pause on that, I have to think through that answer. I think there are things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you, that you'll think about later on when it's over. We have a knowledge of things we don't want to know about ... of things we wish we didn't know."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11763786/


All That the Police Know

Desiree Davidson Young - March 6, 2011

"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up." ....

"I have full confidence that God will reveal all and then we will be able to bring Kyron home. He is not ready for us to know everything yet, but soon he will. We must learn from all that is going on as hard as it is, God teaches us through the hard times in our lives. And man is this one of those hard times, the hardest ever.  We must honor Kyron by doing something good with it and that is what I intend to do.  Thank you all for your support and thoughts."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Desiree-3/133864036644663

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

For almost three years investigative dots were being connected behind the scenes in the Dylan Redwine case and now his father is considered an official person of interest.

Kaine Horman and Desiree Young who are privy to ongoing updates in the case encompassing the secreting of their precious son imply time and time again in their own words that investigative dots are also being connected behind the scenes.  I believe them.

Justice for Dylan!

Justice for Kyron!


Three Years Later

Mark Redwine named "person of interest" in his son Dylan's homicide
POSTED:   08/19/2015

The death of 13-year-old Dylan Redwine is now considered a homicide, and his father is a person of interest in the case, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

Redwine went missing in November 2012 while at his father's home in La Plata County, where he was visiting as part of a court-ordered visitation. His cause of death initially had been classified as undetermined.

In a news release, the sheriff's office said Mark Redwine, Dylan's father, is a person of interest based on evidence collected, inconsistent statements made and his behavior throughout the investigation.

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http://**/news/ci_28668519/mark-redwine-is-person-interest-his-son-dylans

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14459.new;boardseen#new


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CONNECTING THAT FINAL DOT

Blink - August 6, 2010

10.  ".... Everyone- the point is, she may be 100% to blame, but if you think she acted alone, I can promise you that is not possible, and that complicates this case."  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-26/#comments


Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk."

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015

" .... It just takes that one.  It takes that one connection, that one sighting, that one piece of information that we don't have and this is over."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/


Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."

"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

In August/September 2010 it appears that Monkeys were afforded the first exclusive Dede interview ... either directly or indirectly.  Flymonkey's responses on the SM forum ... for the most part ... equate to Dede's words in the September 2013 Blink interview.

Flymonkey - September 18, 2010 - Reply #889

Hope I'm doing this right... I guess I'm the newest Monkey.  I figured I would jump in here because I've been a "fly on the wall" on this forum for several weeks now, and that's one reason I became "FlyMonkey!"  I am here because I am a friend of DeDe Spicher, and if I can offer you all any information about her I would be happy to do so.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.msg1231248#msg1231248


Flymonkey - September 22, 2010 - Reply #154

Hi Monkeys.  I see that you are all SURE that I am DeDe, but I don't care enough about proving you wrong to reveal anything personal about myself.  Let me just say that I am at least a few hundred miles away from DeDe right now and just a friend of hers, as I said before.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1234020#msg1234020

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A COMPARISON

1.  The SM-Flymonkey Interview

September 18, 2010
Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #28
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.msg1231248#msg1231248

TO:

October 26, 2010
Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #34
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8730.msg1253001#msg1253001


Flymonkey - 94 Posts - In a Nutshell

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=9273;sa=showPosts;start=0


2.  The BOC-Dede Spicher Interview

Part 1 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/#comments

Part 2 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/comment-page-1/#comments

THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM

Wishful thinking?  Maybe.  However ... could it be that that an indictment is forthcoming in the Kyron Horman Case?  Think about it.  Kaine's website went "poof" a couple of weeks ago.

http://bringkyronhome.org/
 

Lots of Progress Recently

Desiree Young - July 20, 2015

"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater

Well that was very interesting,thank you Tamikosmom.
I found the below post interesting.Doesn't dear Dede now have immunity?If so....wonder what she "traded"for it?

37     Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #30 9/21/10 -    on: September 24, 2010, 01:34:23 PM
Quote from: Monkey King on September 24, 2010, 01:21:06 PM
FlyMonkey~

It has been noted that Dede met Kaine and Terri at approx the same time at the gym, and Kaine had made arrangements for Dede to organize Terri's 40th birthday aprty.  why is it that Kaine insists on no really knowing Dede?

Also, had Dede advised why her participation was in the Gj hearing she attended- remember hearsay rule applies!

All I can think of about Kaine is that he doesn't want to be associated with someone whom he is accusing of uncooperative behavior.  Either he feels guilty about throwing her under the bus, or just is covering his own... anatomy -- but that's just my theory.

Not sure I completely understand your last question about the GJ...  she was not asked any questions by the grand jury, except about whether she would return in August, to which she immediately agreed.  I have a theory (another theory, yes) that the GJ subpoena was Norm's way of making sure she was in town over that weekend.  He gave her name to KH and DY on 7/22 (thursday), and they released their letter to the media.  At that point the media frenzy began, and she would have liked to get out of town to avoid it, but the GJ summons was for Monday 7/27 which made it pretty impractical to go anywhere.  Either way, she was ready to answer anything they asked her.

Re: the immunity issue, which has been floating around -- the DA's office DID offer her immunity if she had anything to tell them about Kyron's disappearance, but she just doesn't have anything.  She's not "holding out" for an offer of immunity because she has nothing to trade for it.

Hope this answers your question?  Let me know if not!

Thanks Karma.  The following SM forum link will reveal your posting of Flymonkey's response to Monkey King's query.


Flymonkey

Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #30 9/21/10 -
« Reply #474 on: September 24, 2010, 05:34:23 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1235514#msg1235514

I read all 95 posts of flymonkey's.
Then went back and noted dates,times flymonkey posted.Just about all the posts were anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes apart with a few exceptions....I'm not sure what I'm trying to say lol but I think I now know who flymonkey was.....but I'm not saying.

Karma ... the following is my theory.

Janet

Hi Janet
Yes,that was the post that I was referring to with flymonkey stating that if dede had something to trade with LE to get immunity.I believe dede now has immunity(yes?no?)so I was wondering what info she traded to get it.Also,when clicking on flymonkey name it shows last post September 2013 but this list of 94 posts shows her last post in October 2010?I'm not seeing a post from 9/2013.

I really hope so!

Karma ... the SM discussion forum in the month that Flymonkey posted will reveal that there were Monkeys who were suspicious that Dede and Flymonkey were one.


Flymonkey - September 18, 2010 - Reply #889

Hope I'm doing this right... I guess I'm the newest Monkey.  I figured I would jump in here because I've been a "fly on the wall" on this forum for several weeks now, and that's one reason I became "FlyMonkey!"  I am here because I am a friend of DeDe Spicher, and if I can offer you all any information about her I would be happy to do so.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.msg1231248#msg1231248


Flymonkey - September 22, 2010 - Reply #154

Hi Monkeys.  I see that you are all SURE that I am DeDe, but I don't care enough about proving you wrong to reveal anything personal about myself.  Let me just say that I am at least a few hundred miles away from DeDe right now and just a friend of hers, as I said before.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1234020#msg1234020

Thanks Janet.I read about Kyron's case every day and things do seem rather quiet lately.Conspiracy or not......I'm always praying and hoping that they do something soon to further this investigation.

Thanks Janet
I'm not thinking flymonkey was dede.I do a lot of reading with hardly any posting all over the internet.Judging from the way flymonkey posted,word usage etc,I have my suspicions but that could just be because I'm a suspicious personality lol

Yes? No?  YES!!!

Could it be that the "Last Active" date of September 3, 2013 shown on Flymonkey's profile page implies the last time she accessed the forum ... not her last post?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=9273

Me too.  Karma ... the not-knowing must be a literal h--- on Earth for Kaine and Desiree.  I think about my 12 year old grandson and attempt to put myself in the place of Kyron's parents and ... I can't go there.  Five years!!  It is too much to comprehend.

Janet

 ::MonkeyTears::


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015

Kaine Horman thinks about his missing son every day. "We need to find him.  We need to bring him home."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyde-Ek5EV3zFVdA8jNllMnnru0-nVNO5kcJYH_JjAOqGDzjNl)



Desiree Young - June 20, 2015

"It's every single day, every single second I think about him. I talk to him on the drive to work, whatever I'm doing."

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Kyron-Hormans-mom-organizes-new-search-for-missing-boy-264011041.html

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgkkkXV4_gyRiymrD3YG5C2ln77e7OMANFfXaFTkGkqFBwOLFuqw)

Hmmmm.....I think that last active is the last time posted.Maybe Klaas or someone can let us know?

These are the 2 people I will always support no matter what.I have noticed a few sites bashing Kaine and Desiree but I will always believe that these parents just want answers and justice for their little Kyron.

Flymonkey - 94 Posts - In a Nutshell

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=9273;sa=showPosts;start=0

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Can I guess?  LOL

Tom Jones ... Dede's cousin?

Janet


Flymonkey

Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #31 9/27/10 -
« Reply #693 on: October 01, 2010, 02:10:27 AM

Is Dede in contact with her cousin Tom?  
They're not in regular contact but he did come by her house a couple of weeks ago to apologize for being a jerk on GLP.  He asked her what had happened and why the police were so interested, and she gave him the details, so that's why he's been syaing similar things over on GLP -- we are getting the info from the same source.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8606.msg1239346#msg1239346

Karma

Who was Flymonkey?

1.  Dede Spicher?
2.  Tom Jones?
3.  Dede's anonymous friend?
4.  None of the above.


1.  SCARED MONKEYS POSTING - SEPTEMBER 2010

Flymonkey

Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND,OR #29 9/18/10 -
« Reply #229 on: September 19, 2010, 08:20:07 PM »

I beleive that the DA's office in this case has behaved, and continues to behave, unethically -- at least toward DeDe.  They are keeping her property even though they have no real cause to do so -- as Grey said, they could ghost the hard drive in about 5 minutes, and would have no problem getting everything they need from the cell phones, camera, and iPod just as quickly.  As I believe Tom has said (although I am not a reader of GLP), the DA, Norm Frink, threatened DeDe after several hours of questioning.  This is as exact a quote as DeDe could recall of what he said:  "Look DeDe, we really don't think that you had anything to do with this, but we do think you know something.  So unless you tell us, I AM going to go to the family and tell them what you've done, and then you know what will happen.  They will go to the media and hell will rain down upon you."

If I seem angry at LE, it's because I think this is a truly unethical thing to do.  And I wonder if you all realize that LE may be counting on the local media AND forums like this one and using you as a kind of torture to threaten people with, even when they don't think those people are guilty.

If she does know something, she doesn't know she knows it.  She would have gone on talking to them forever if they had not started treating her like a suspect.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8547.msg1231796#msg1231796


2.  BOC INTERVIEW - SEPTEMBER 2013

A Blink On Crime Exclusive: DeDe Spicher speaks for the first time about her ordeal in the Kyron Horman investigation.
S. Christina Stoy, Editor In Chief- Blink On Crime
Wednesday 4 September 2013

<snipped>

Stoy: You mentioned that law enforcement accused you of wasting their resources and distracting the investigation. In what way did they mean or how did they explain that to you?

Spicher: First it was Chief ADA Norm Frink who said I was wasting their time and resources by not “cooperating,” by which he meant “take their poly[graph]. ” That was just a couple of days before news first broke about my “involvement,” and was all part of his blackmailing me.

Stoy: How do you mean blackmailing you,the DA? Frink?

Spicher: Yes. We were in a meeting/interview and. .

Stoy: Was your attorney present?

Spicher: Yes. Sitting right there. Frink said that we do not think you had anything to do with this, but we do think you have information about Terri Horman’s involvement, and we do think she is involved. Either you take our polygraph, or provide the information we believe you have, or, I don’t care, we will tell the family that we do think you’re involved.

Stoy: What was your response?

Spicher: I said that I understood the need for them to do what they had to do, but that I was not going to tell them something that was not true.  I did not really expect them to say something they knew to be false. They did. The next day, my name was released to the press by Desiree Young and Kaine Horman.   It was a statement about me not cooperating and I think advising others not to or words to that effect.

<snipped>

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/#comments

lol Janet but you would make a great private investigator.

... and I would not hesitate to entrust you with a secret.  Karma ... you will not budge in revealing your suspicion re the identity of flymonkey.  It's driving me nuts.  LOL

Anyways ... it was great connecting with you today.  Life outside the computer room beckons. Youngest son and DIL are having a date night.  Papa and I are babysitting our precious six month old  granddaughter.

Janet
4:40 PM PT

 ::rhino::

IT DOESN'T GET EASIER

Desiree Young - May 31, 2015

"It doesn't get easier with time.  I still wake up crying and praying, hoping today will be the day."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT8If0cg_MQ0v0hzADIbFyEBF0v6nWdzGM_ARJxkhLxwYxyUGS3yQ)

 ::MonkeyTears::

Justice for Kyron Horman!

UPDATE #110

Our upcoming search for Kyron is scheduled for Labor Day weekend, September 5-6. Right now we are only needing outside volunteers for Saturday the 5th. If you are interested in helping with the search please send me a message here. We still require you to have a valid ID, be 18 or older and sign a non-disclosure agreement. Details will be emailed out to you on the location of the command post and meeting time a couple of days before the search. Thank you!!

If you would like to volunteer to help with the search please send an email to justice4kyron@yahoo.com.


UPDATE #111

From Desiree:

I was talking to someone the other day and they asked me, “After 5 years do you really need to search, at this point you probably won’t find him?”

That is exactly the reason that I continue to keep going and keep searching. I have a lot of fight left in me. I am fighting against the evil that wants us to give up and go away. I am fighting against time that keeps taking away the new memories of my son. I am fighting against the one person that refuses to set our hearts at ease by remaining silent and not providing the answers we so desperately need. I am fighting for Kyron because he needs it. I will not give up and I will not stop, so I continue to search and continue to fight.

I am taking the power back and I will search until the day he gets to come home. Who’s with me?

We will begin our search this Labor Day Weekend with renewed energy and hopefully a lot of you, our supporters, there by our side, dedicated to finding Kyron as well. We are bringing in K-9 teams, other volunteers, and Klaas Kids will be there to help us launch a successful search this year. We are going to search some new areas and Lord willing, we will get some answers this year. We are looking for volunteers for Saturday 9/5 to help us search and hopefully help us get answers and bring Kyron home.

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman

Kyron Horman search planned for Labor Day weekend
August 26, 2015

A search for missing Portland boy Kyron Horman is planned for Labor Day weekend and organizers are seeking volunteers to help out.

Kyron disappeared from Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland on June 4, 2010. He was 7 years old.

A gofundme account has also been set up to finance the search.  As of Wednesday morning, $31,632 had been raised, toward the $50,000 goal.

Kyron’s father Kaine and mother Desiree Young said they still believe Kyron's stepmother Terri Horman is not telling investigators everything she knows. She was married to Kaine at the time of her stepson’s disappearance and took him to school the day he vanished.

Terri has been a primary focus of the investigation into Kyron's disappearance, but police have never called her a suspect in the case.

<snipped>

The sheriff's office has offered a $50,000 reward for information leading to a resolution in the case. Anyone with information is asked to call the tip line at 503-261-2847.

People who want to volunteer for the September 5-6 search effort must have a valid ID, be 18 or older and sign a non-disclosure agreement. More details can be found on the Justice for Kyron Horman website run by Young's sister, Kelly Ramirez.

“It has been five years now and we still don't know where Kyron is," she said. "Our hearts were broken the day the unthinkable happened, a day there is no moving on from. Each day we live with the unknown, while silently praying today is the day he comes home to us. Our nightmare will not end until Kyron is home.”

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCsT9-pVV3jUYY-VU8DGlEggRu628QArDDU5QJqLqiwTnGp0KO)

The trade?  Karma ... inquiring minds are not privy to an OFFICIAL answer to your question but ... logic dictates that in briefings with investigators the truth has not be withheld from the mother of Kyron Horman in regards to the August 2013 immunity deal between Dede Spicher and the DA.

Janet

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1.  Nothing to Trade - September 2010

Flymonkey

Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #30 9/21/10 -
« Reply #474 on: September 24, 2010, 05:34:23 PM »

Re: the immunity issue, which has been floating around -- the DA's office DID offer her immunity if she had anything to tell them about Kyron's disappearance, but she just doesn't have anything.  She's not "holding out" for an offer of immunity because she has nothing to trade for it

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1235514#msg1235514

H/T Karma


2.  Something to Trade? - September 2013

Part 1 - BOC/Dede Spicher Interview

<snipped>

DeDe absolutely believed that her impending grand jury appearance was designed to  result in her facing some sort of charge for something that investigators believed would lead  her to ultimately implicate Terri Horman in Kyron’s disappearance.  In fact,  she was told that what was an honest tax mistake/error on her part after she ended up being paid a nominal amount by Mrs. Hockensmith but never received a 1099, could end up placing her in hot water.  The Capone tactic for a woman that took the job with the understanding that it was not a paid endeavor and when Ms. Hockensmith told Spicher she wanted to compensate her she declined.  Hockensmith insisted.

On this basis, DeDe was advised to and agreed to an immunity deal.   The terms of which are under seal and Spicher nixed discussing citing a verbal agreement she made until such time as it is unsealed.

A source inside the investigation who does not wish to be identified as they are not authorized to speak publicly on the case- has confirmed that Spicher’s agreement includes provisions that she continue to cooperate with law enforcement as needed, be available to testify in any proceedings, and to take a polygraph.

<snipped>

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/#comments


Part 2 - BOC/Dede Spicher Interview

In the first part of blinkoncrime.com’s exclusive interview with DeDe Spicher,  she revealed that after over 3 years of attempting to provide Multnomah County Sheriffs Office as well as Assistant Deputy Attorney Norm Frink with the necessary information they requested to clear her from any suspicion in the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of Skyline second grader Kyron Horman; she has finally been cleared after passing a polygraph as part of her requirement under an immunity deal that has been sealed with the court.  Unofficially cleared, that is.

<snipped>

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/comment-page-1/#comments


3.  Desiree Knows - June 2015

Desiree Young

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/

Thanks Janet
I read that whole article with Blink's interview with Dede(numerous times)  and all I can say is Kyron's Momma believes Dede had something to do with the disappearance of her son and as long as she believes that,I'll also believe that.Besides....I'm not appreciative of all the sources say and un named sources,unofficially cleared thing,unless or until LE comes out stating these things.
IMO Desiree believes what LE believes.

 ::rhino::

The Prosecution's Star Witness?  Could it be that Dede will be the prosecution's star witness in an upcoming trial?

DEDE SPICHER

1.  August 2010 - Grand Jury

In 2010 Dede was called to appear before the Grand Jury but did not testify.  Could it be that an immunity deal was in the negotiating stages?

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Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
August 18, 2010

<snipped>

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848


2.  October 2012 - The $10,0000,000 Civil Lawsuit

In 2012 ... citing the Fifth ... Dede refused to answer pertinent questions when deposed by Desiree's attorney.

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Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
October 23, 2012

Desiree Young's lawyer has filed a motion asking a judge to compel DeDe Spicher, a friend of Terri Moulton Horman's, to answer his questions after she declined to answer 142 questions during a deposition he took earlier this month stemming from Young's civil lawsuit against Horman.

Multnomah County sheriff's investigators looking into the disappearance of Kyron Horman, a second-grader who went missing from Skyline School on June 4, 2010, were interested in the whereabouts of Spicher on that day.

Spicher declined to answer any questions posed by Young's lawyers on Oct. 5 that involved Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmom, or Kyron -- each time asserting her Fifth Amendment constitutional right not to incriminate herself.

Spicher also declined to answer questions about where she was on June 4, 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


The Deposition

Excerpts"

Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


3.  July 2013 - Grand Jury

In 2013 Dede did testify before the Grand Jury.  Could it be negotiations were finalized and Dede was afforded an immunity deal in exchange for the truth pertaining to her involvement and the involvement of others in the happenings leading up to and beyond the morning when Kyron went missing ... an immunity deal in exchange for cooperating with investigators in doing their bidding in bringing about a resolution to the Kyron Horman case?

Could it be that the reason MCSO and the District Attorney's office would not respond affirmatively to media queries regarding the alleged claim she was "unofficially" cleared of wrongdoing is because the definition of an immunity deal implies otherwise?

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Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit against stepmom
July 30, 2013

A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney.  He said that DeDe Spicher has testified before the grand jury for the criminal case.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify.

<snipped>

http://www.krem.com/story/news/2014/10/02/15114092/


Kaine, MCSO committed to ‘bringing Kyron home’
July 30, 2013

<snipped>

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

During Tuesday’s press conference, Kaine Horman did express disappointment over Desiree Young’s dropped civil suit.

“At the same time,” Horman said, “trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities.”

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


DeDe Spicher breaks silence in interview with crime blog
Sep 04, 2013

<snipped>

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office issued a "no comment" when FOX 12 inquired about the blog's report that Spicher had been "unofficially" cleared.

The district attorney's office also issued a "no comment."

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/23343156/dede-spicher-breaks-silence-with-interview-on-crime-blog


4.  June 2015 - Kyron's Mom

The position of Kyron's parents regarding the involvement of Terri and Dede in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of their son has not wavered in five years. When Kaine and Desiree's ongoing briefings with investigators regarding case updates are considered ... it makes sense that their words are derived from an official foundation.

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Family, friends hold vigil for Kyron Horman 5 years after disappearance
June 04, 2015

<snipped>

Kyron's mom and stepdad toured the Wall of Hope that is located in Beaverton, adding new decorations.

Desiree says the day is about her son, but it's also about Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmother and the last person cops said was with him.

Desiree's still convinced Terri is the one who took Kyron.

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

<snipped>

Video Excerpt (2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance

When the revelation of June 30, 2013 by Elden Rosenthal that pertained to Dede Spicher's 2013 grand jury testimony is considered ... the revelations that coincided with the dropping of his client's lawsuit ... could it be that there is an investigative connection?  Also ... think about the possible implication of Kaine's media statement following Desiree's press conference regarding the dropping of her lawsuit.


JULY 30, 2013

The Dropping of the Lawsuit - Dede's 2013 Grand Jury Testimony - An  Investigative Connection?

Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013

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At a news conference on the steps of the Multnomah County Justice Center, an emotional Desiree Young said that going forward with the lawsuit would interfere with the criminal investigation, something she was not willing to do.

“In order for my lawyers to move forward with the case at this point, it would be necessary for them to seek access to the police criminal investigation files,” Young said. “My lawyers have advised me that the Oregon Public Records Disclosure Law does not provide the release of ongoing police investigation files.” ....

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron,” Young said Tuesday. “For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.” ....

Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman’s friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury.  In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.

“We recently learned that DeDe Spicher did appear in front of the grand jury a week or two go; we don’t know what she said,” Rosenthal stated.

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
July 30, 2013

<snipped>

With "great disappointment," the mother of Kyron Horman said Tuesday she is dropping a civil suit against Terri Horman because she doesn't want it to jeopardize the police investigation.

"Because my civil case can't go forward without the police criminal investigation file, it's with great disappointment I make this difficult decision," Desiree Young told reporters. ....

Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, Dede Spicher -- who previously refused to answer questions in court -- testified before an investigative grand jury in the past week or two.

"I hope she talks and shares everything she knows," Young said. "I'm optimistic."

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html


Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit against stepmom
July 30, 2013

<snipped>

During a press conference Tuesday, Young said the only way for her civil suit to proceed was to have access to police records about the investigation. That would not be allowed under public records law, she said.

Young also addressed Terri Horman directly: 'Terry, I cannot tolerate this silence,'she said.

To pursue the civil case and to go after the police records could threaten the criminal case, she explained. Young said she wants no part of hindering that criminal investigation.

'I'm very disappointed that we can't move forward,' she said. 'I don't want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation.' ....

A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney.  He said that DeDe Spicher has testified before the grand jury for the criminal case.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify.

<snipped>

http://www.krem.com/story/news/2014/10/02/15114092/


Kaine, MCSO committed to ‘bringing Kyron home’
July 30, 2013

<snipped>

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

During Tuesday’s press conference, Kaine Horman did express disappointment over Desiree Young’s dropped civil suit. ....

Just minutes before Kaine Horman’s news conference, the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office sent out the following statement on the Kyron Horman missing person’s case: ....

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/

Bumped

Bumped

:::respectively snipped:::

4.  June 2015 - Kyron's Mom

The position of Kyron's parents regarding the involvement of Terri and Dede in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of their son has not wavered in five years. When Kaine and Desiree's ongoing briefings with investigators regarding case updates are considered ... it makes sense that their words are derived from an official foundation.

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Family, friends hold vigil for Kyron Horman 5 years after disappearance
June 04, 2015

<snipped>

Kyron's mom and stepdad toured the Wall of Hope that is located in Beaverton, adding new decorations.

Desiree says the day is about her son, but it's also about Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmother and the last person cops said was with him.

Desiree's still convinced Terri is the one who took Kyron.

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

<snipped>

Video Excerpt (2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
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Interesting because in one post at Blink's site,Blink stated that Desiree has been warned not to even use Dede's name(after Dede was granted immunity) and it was implied that since Dede has immunity,charges could be filed against Desiree for inflammation.
 ::MonkeyWink::

Karma

In over five years no civil action has been filed by Dede's attorney and no civil action has been followed through by Terri's attorney?

Could it be that the words of Desiree and Kaine in the public arena ... in court documents reflect the truth ... the truth learned through ongoing briefings with investigators?

If I was Terri and ... IF I WAS INNOCENT ... no power on earth would have prevented me from challenging at the get go the allegations cited in Kaine's restraining order.  No power on earth would have prevented me from demanding joint custody of my daughter ... not to mention the huge defamation lawsuit that would follow.  An over five year silence?  No way!

Food for Thought

Blink - July 26, 2010

26.  .... "Houze has one objective, to zealously represent/defend his Client, who, has not been charged in this case.  Someone is going to have to tell me how one arrives at a $350K retainer for an innocent person." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-24/#comments

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Restraining Order Petition - June 2010

Kaine Horman - July 9, 2010

"I believe respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010.  I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/09/father-missing-oregon-boy-suspects-stepmom/


Response Affidavit - October 2010

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

"Petitioner, Kaine Horman by and through his attorney Laura E. Rackner and Gearing,
Rackner, Engel, & McGrath LLP, responds to Respondent's Motion to Modify Restraining
Order to Prevent Abuse Regarding Parenting Time as follows: ...."

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


Motion Withdrawal - November 2010

Terri Moulton Horman drops motion seeking parenting time with Kiara
November 3, 2010

Terri Moulton Horman's attorneys have withdrawn their motion seeking parenting time for their client with her daughter after her estranged husband's lawyer informed them that  they would face extensive discovery, "multiple depositions" and subpoenas for their client's medical records.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/terri_moulton_horman_withdraws.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/horman-motion.PDF


Three Years Later - September 2013

Lawyers to argue over what information Terri Horman and Kaine Horman can obtain as they pursue divorce, custody matters
September 13, 2013

<snipped>

"Terri Horman has been in seclusion for three years and has elected not to seek parenting time with Kiara. She refuses to cooperate with law enforcement. So far, she has chosen her privilege against self-incrimination over a relationship with her daughter,'' wrote Brett Engel, Kaine Horman's lawyer in a legal motion.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/lawyers_to_argue_over_what_inf.html

THE 2014 CUSTODY SETTLEMENT

Over one year following the legal agreement between Terri and Kaine ... one year after their respective attorneys and a judge signed off on a legal agreement affording Kaine full custody of Kiara while affording Terri eventually supervised visitation ... Terri has yet to have any contact whatsoever with her daughter.

Considering a complaint has not been filed by Terri's attorneys ... a complaint alleging that Kaine failed to comply with conditions cited in the legal agreement ... could it be that it is Terri who has failed to comply?

When Kaine conceded to an agreement rather than a court challenge in the civil arena to prevent Terri from being afforded ANY contact with Kiara ... could it be that he had been convinced that in all probability Terri would fail to comply to all the conditions cited in the agreement thus assuring his daughter well-being while at the same time not compromising the ongoing investigation?

Could it be Kaine learned that compliance to some conditions cited in the agreement would possibly implicate Terri in the MFH and/or Kyron Horman cases and ... logic dictated Terri's attorney would not allow that to happen?

Again ... think about it.  Four years had come and gone since Terri had any contact with her daughter when the June 2014 custody agreement was signed ... the June 2014 custody agreement that would afford Houze' client "eventual supervised" visitation with her daughter if conditions were adhered to.  One year later ... on the fifth anniversary of Kyron's disappearance ... Kaine reveals that Terri has yet had any contact with her daughter.  Why?

BOTTOM LINE!  If convinced of his client's innocence ... rather than settle for eventual supervised visits with Kiara ... why did Terri's $350,000 attorney not follow through with the initial quest for joint custody in the civil arena?

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JUNE, 2013

Kaine, MCSO committed to ‘bringing Kyron home’
July 30, 2013

Kaine Horman held a news conference Tuesday afternoon at the Wall of Hope, just hours after the mother of missing Kyron Horman said she dropped a civil suit that may have been keeping the boy’s stepmother, Terri Horman, from revealing what she knows about his disappearance.

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case,” Horman said to reporters around 3:15 p.m. He said law enforcement is “again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that. ...

During Tuesday’s press conference, Kaine Horman did express disappointment over Desiree Young’s dropped civil suit.

“At the same time,” Horman said, “trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities.” The daughter’s mother is Terri Horman.

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http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


SEPTEMBER 2013

Lawyers to argue over what information Terri Horman and Kaine Horman can obtain as they pursue divorce, custody matters
September 13, 2013

<snipped>

"Terri Horman has been in seclusion for three years and has elected not to seek parenting time with Kiara. She refuses to cooperate with law enforcement. So far, she has chosen her privilege against self-incrimination over a relationship with her daughter,'' wrote Brett Engel, Kaine Horman's lawyer in a legal motion. "It is anticipated she will now seek to establish a relationship with Kiara. The risk of physical and/or emotional harm to Kiara is high.'

Terri Horman has not objected to having an expert evaluation done, but seeks limits on it. Her attorney said she'll decline to answer questions that could affect her constitutional rights, since law enforcement has not provided her with information about their investigation into Kyron's disappearance.

Bunch blamed Kaine Horman for moving to prevent Terri Horman from having any contact with their daughter, saying he declined every attempt by her lawyers to negotiate parenting time with Kiara, even though Terri Horman offered to see her under supervised conditions.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/lawyers_to_argue_over_what_inf.html


FEBRUARY 2014

Terri Horman's lawyer blocked from questioning landscaper
February 20, 2014

Terri Horman's lawyer will not be allowed to question a former family landscaper as part of his client's child custody battle with Kaine Horman.

The decision was made during a hearing in Multnomah County court Thursday. ....

The Hormans' marriage was officially dissolved in December of 2013 and Kaine currently has full custody of their daughter. Details of what, if any, parenting time Terri should have with Kiara have still not been resolved.

Thursday's decision sets the stage for a June trial when the judge will consider visitation and parenting time.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html


Horman hearing: Judge seeks input on how to handle landscaper testimony (live updates)
February 20, 2014

Multnomah County Circuit Judge Henry Kantor already has ruled that Kaine Horman's lawyers can present Sanchez's testimony about the alleged murder-for-hire plot for the child custody case, but that Terri Horman's lawyers can't cross-examine Sanchez about any conversations he had with sheriff's detectives or federal investigators, citing "law enforcement privilege.''

Yet the judge asked attorneys for input on how the court should handle the testimony of Sanchez that the court has allowed.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/02/post_437.html


JUNE 2014

Kaine Horman awarded custody of daughter; Terri Horman to have strictly-supervised visits eventually
June 4, 2014

Kaine Horman has been awarded the custody of his daughter, Kiara, and ex-wife Terri Moulton Horman will have strictly supervised visits with the girl under a detailed "reintegration plan,'' according to a settlement signed Tuesday. ....

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/06/kaine_horman_awarded_custody_o.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


Kaine Horman will keep full custody of daughter
June 4, 2014

Kaine Horman will retain full custody of his 5-year-old daughter Kiara, a judge ruled Tuesday. The girl's mother, Terri Moulton Horman, will eventually be allowed to have supervised visits. ....

I believe where we are today is still keeping my daughter safe, that status quo is still maintained, so I think we are doing what we need to be doing, Kaine told KGW Wednesday.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine-Horman-awarded-full-custody-of-daughter--261867341.html


JUNE 2015

Father of Kyron Horman: 'We need to bring him home'
June 2, 2015

<snipped>

"You know they've done a lot of due diligence in the searching around here and as the searches continue and nothing is found the probability goes up that he is still out there and he's with somebody else," said the missing boy's father.

Kaine Horman believes Kyron's stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy's disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.

"Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.

Terri Horman has not been charged in the case. She has been living with her parents in Roseburg and listed a Eugene address on government records.

Kaine Horman says Terri has had "no contact of any kind" with their six-year old daughter after a lengthy divorce and custody battle.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/


Actual quote from video (1:30):

"Terri has no contact with Kaine nor their daughter."

Why have Kyron's parents not sued PPS?  It makes sense that over five years later PPS would have been sued big time and ...  a different path ... a difference focus would have been pursued by Kyron's parents in their desperate quest for answers IF ongoing briefings with investigator had not not convinced them that probable cause exists that Kyron left Skyline with Terri on the morning of June 4, 2010.


Probable Cause

Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


The Right Person

Desiree Young - February 2, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."

http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop


Not a Stranger

Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


This is the Moment

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTYRa3UGTQnQLCmn-eHI0yZsnYSJ4xY5SULC_rTRAr-31fkrng)


It's Terri's Fault; Not Skyline

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015

" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ...."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


She is One of Them

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


Someone in our Trusted Circle

Desiree Young and Kaine Horman - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle," said Young. ....

"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact," Young said.

"We need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


REMINDER

Last Known Person

Multnomah County Sheriff Captain - Jason Gates - June 21, 2010

There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


The Investigative Team

Blink - June 23, 2010

46. .... "Let me say this- I am a fan of this MCSO. From Dan Staton to Jason Gates and his team, they have done everything right in my eyes.  I have studied his election campaign, and his career, and this guy is a cops cop and a people’s sheriff. This community is lucky to have him.  That said, I also understand people’s frustration that their information is validated.  I am asking that folks put this Investigative team in a position of faith and trust, above your need to know. This is about Kyron, not us." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-3/#comments

THE POLYGRAPHS

There are those who claim that Dede Spicher's 2013 polygraph cleared her from wrongdoing.  I contend that as a condition of being afforded immunity Dede willingly submitted to a polygraph and passed.  However ... could it be that she passed the polygraph because truthful answers were forthcoming pertaining to wrongdoing involving not only Dede but also Terri and at least one other regarding the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Kyron from Skyline on June 4, 2010?  In other words ... in an upcoming trial Dede will be a witness for the prosecution ... a "star" witness for the prosecution.

Considering Desiree and Kaine were informed in 2010 that they passed polygraphs with "flying colors" ... what is the implication regarding Terri's failed polygraphs?  What is the implication of her silence that has been ongoing for the past five years?


KAINE HORMAN - IN THE BEGINNING

Flying Colors

Family: Terri Horman failed polygraphs; 'she's lying'
July 9, 2010

Desiree Young, the biological mother of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman, said during an afternoon news conference Thursday she knows his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, is lying, and the boy's father said that Terri failed two polygraph tests.

<snipped>

“I think everyone knows she took two polygraphs,” Kaine said. “She has not passed those polygraphs.”

Desiree and Kaine said they also took polygraph tests and “passed with flying colors.”

<snipped>

Video - New Conference
http://www.kpic.com/news/local/98109039.html


Failed Again

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

Petitioner, Kaine Horman by and through his attorney Laura E. Rackner and Gearing,
Rackner, Engel, & McGrath LLP, responds to Respondent's Motion to Modify Restraining
Order to Prevent Abuse Regarding Parenting Time as follows: ....

Pages 4-5

Respondent failed the first polygraph test law enforcement gave her regarding Kyron's disappearance.

Law enforcement requested a second polygraph within days after the first. She appeared for that second test, but walked out in the middle of the test.

Law enforcement requested a third test- Respondent resisted the test for approximately one week. She finally agreed and took the third polygraph test. She completed the third test and failed again.

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


KAINE HORMAN - FIVE YEARS LATER

The Percentages are Really High

Five years later: Why Kyron Horman's dad believes his son is alive
Published: June 3, 2015

<snipped>

Kiara was 18 months old when Kyron disappeared, and she's only a year away now from being as old as Kyron was when he went missing. Yet Kaine said there's been no contact between Terri and her daughter.

"It tells me everything I need to know," said Kaine. "She's told us about the failed polygraphs. And when you fail two to three polygraphs, the percentages are really high. And when the questions are around your involvement with taking him from the school that day, I think we know. We all do."

<snipped>

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/306079331.html


I Know there is Involvement

Kaine Horman on Kyron, Terri, life after 5 years
June 4, 2015

<snipped>

Horman said he believes his ex-wife, Terri Moulton-Horman, was involved in his son’s disappearance.

“I think a lot of people feel the same way through the evidence. Not through a gut feel, but what we know about polygraph failures,” Horman explained. “She has told us, straight out, she’s failed those tests. No, they’re not admissible in court, but in the general discussion of things, they’re perfectly admissible. I know there’s involvement, we’re not going to get help down that path. I’ve just kind of left that behind a long time ago.”

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2015/06/04/kaine-horman-on-kyron-terri-life-after-5-years/

Stephen Houze?  Peter Bunch?  It appears that Terri was representing herself in the name change petitions and the anti-stalking order petition.  Why?  Inquiring minds want to know.

NAME CHANGE

Douglas County

Terri Moulton Horman petitions court to change her name
July 17, 2014
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/07/terri_moulton_horman_petitions.html

Douglas County judge denies Terri Horman's petition to change her name
August 4, 2014
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/08/douglas_county_judge_denies_te.html

Name Change Petition:
http://media.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/other/14CV2445NC%20Horman%20Name%20Change_Redacted.pdf

Terri Horman Hearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj-DyZWzmFY

County Lane

Terri Horman petitions to change name
December 1, 2014
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/12/terri_horman_petitions_to_chan.html

Petitioning Lane County Circuit Court Hon. Karsten Rasmussen, Presiding Judge
https://www.change.org/p/hon-karsten-rasmussen-presiding-judge-we-are-asking-that-the-judge-deny-terri-moulton-horman-s-request-for-a-name-change

Terri Horman withdraws petition for name change in Lane County
December 10, 2014
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/12/terri_horman_withdrew_petition.html


ANTI-STALKING ORDER

Lane County

Missing boy Kyron Horman’s stepmom seeks, fails to get, anti-stalking order
February 19, 2015
http://www.heraldandnews.com/news/northwest/missing-boy-kyron-horman-s-stepmom-seeks-fails-to-get/article_9516b9ed-981f-5a96-8984-f8049978f342.html

Stalking Order Petition:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B903GPyPwmk5fm5TS29lZzFiUTE0TWhlMHlfX3NycGtsM0N5NWdVdnJaLWhWWEpjNFFrb3c&usp=sharing

Family plans search for missing Kyron Horman this weekend
By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
September 04, 2015 at 5:00 AM

More than five years since 7-year-old Kyron Horman disappeared from Portland's Skyline School, his family is planning a Labor Day weekend search for the child.

On a website to raise money for some of the costs of the search, Kyron's mother Desiree Young wrote that she'd been asked recently, "After 5 years, do you really need to search?''

Young continued, "That is exactly the reason that I continue to keep going and keep searching. I have a lot of fight left in me. I am fighting against the evil that wants us to give up and go away. I am fighting against time that keeps taking away the new memories of my son.''

Young said earlier this year that she hoped to bring in teams of tracking and cadaver dogs to search in the Portland area, but wouldn't say where. The KlaasKids Foundation that works to support families of missing children is also expected to be involved.

The searches are scheduled to start at 8 a.m. on Saturday. Young and his sister, Kelly Ramirez, have organized others searches in the past.

They are seeking volunteers who are 18 or older and having them sign a non-disclosure agreement. Those wishing to volunteer have been encouraged to send an email to Young's sister at justice4kyron@yahoo.com

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is offering an ongoing $50,000 reward for information that leads to the discovery of the missing boy.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/09/family_plans_search_for_missin.html#incart_story_package

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman

DEDE'S BURNER PHONE?

If Dede left her cell in her vehicle while working the farm on June 4, 2010 ... from what phone did she receive that alleged 11:15 am call?  Could it have been a burner phone ... a burner phone purchased prior to June 4, 2010?  What happened to the burner phone?  Could it be that Dede disposed of not only her burner phone but also Terri's burner phone and maybe the burner phone of another on the afternoon of June 4, 2010 "a mile and a half down hill, at the end of a winding secluding country lane off Cornelius Pass" where Jim Kelley resides?  Could it be that burner phones that were used during the planning and execution of a crime against the person of Kyron Horman are the focus of the private searches organized?

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/day_three_search_continues_hun.html

 
Blink - July 26, 2010

<snipped>

According to several sources, DeDe Spicher, Terri’s roommate  post Kaine’s restraining order,  was working in a garden near the Horman home the day of Kyron’s disappearance when she received a call at approximately 11:15 am. She left abruptly, returning at approximately 1:00 pm. DeDe was unreachable on her cell phone during that time and the property owner became concerned. Spicher is a long time friend and workout companion of Horman’s.

<snipped>

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-1/


Blink - September 4, 2013

DeDe arrived at her job at Westwind Farm Studio–a sprawling and lush forty-plus acre property scheduled to be on the Garden Conservatory Tour the next day. She parked at the main house, left her cell phone which was turned on, and her lunch cooler in her Ford Explorer.

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/

Weekend Search For Kyron Horman
September 4, 2015

Portland, Or. – About 100 volunteers will spend this Labor Day weekend searching for Kyron Horman, who disappeared from Skyline Elementary more than five years ago. Kyron’s Mom, Desiree Young says Klaas Kids, a foundation formed by the father of Polly Klaas who was kidnapped in 1993, is helping organize the effort.

Young says K-9 units from around the country are coming to help. She says the search will be in the Skyline area of NW Portland. Young feels extremely hopeful. ” I think this year’s our year  and I think we’re all ready for answers. I mean, we’re tired of waiting.”

Kyron’s stepmom, Terri Horman took him to school the day he vanished and while the sheriff’s office has not called her a suspect, she has been the primary focus of the investigation. ....

http://kxl.com/2015/09/04/weekend-search-for-kyron-horman/


Just a Technicality

Desiree Young - June 5, 2015

“She’s (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality – she’s definitely a person of interest.”

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/

This weekend's search will be conducted "in the Skyline area of NW Portland".  What are the implications?

THE 2010 AND 2013 CORNELIUS PASS SEARCHES

1.  The Dede Spicher Connection

Think about it.  A white pick up was reportedly observed twice in the the Cornelius Pass area ... one at 3:00 PM on the day that Kyron went missing and the other at 2:00 AM on the morning of June 5th.  Considering Terri and Kaine were at home meeting the school bus at 3:00 PM on June 4, 2010 ... speculation emerged in July that it was Dede who was the driver of that white pick up.

On June 6th ... Jim Kelley claimed that two official searches had already been conducted.

Dede may not have been afforded immunity until 2013 ... immunity in exchange for the entire truth.  She may not have appeared before the Grand Jury until 2013.  However ... in August 2010  according to her attorney there was a level of cooperation going on between his client and investigators.  Hey ... Chad Stavely was convinced that it was only a matter of time until THE indictment against Terri came down.

Could it be that a further Cornelius Pass search was initiated in August 2010 as a result of a tip that investigators had gleaned from Dede and/or her cell phone /computer?

Could it be that disposable phones were the focus of the August 2010 official search and a September 2013 private search in the Cornelius Pass area ... disposable phones that were purchased prior to June 4th ... disposable phones that may have been used in the planning and execution stages encompassing the disappearing of Kyron?

THE 2010 AND 2013 CORNELIUS PASS SEARCHES

2.  Connecting the Dots

June 2010

Day 3: FBI calls in criminal profiler in search for missing Skyline boy; interviews with students and parents begin
June 06, 2010

<snipped>

Neighbors stop by Brooks Hill Historic church, across the street from the school, to mull over the investigation. "This kind of thing is unheard of," says Jim Kelley, 50.

Kelley, who lives about a mile and a half down hill, at the end of a winding, secluded country lane off Cornelius Pass, said police, federal agents, K-9 teams and helicopters scoured the area Saturday.

"We had two odd sightings of a vehicle on our road Friday," Kelley said. Around 3 p.m., he and a neighbor reported seeing a white pick-up truck with a female driver pull to the end of the long road, idle and then turn around. Then again at 2 a.m. Saturday morning, a similar white pickup truck appeared, idled and when a neighbor loosed her dogs, eased away."

"A, it was strange to have a car there, any car there, that we didn't know, and B, it was strange to have a vehicle come down our dead-end road twice in the same day, hours after a little boy goes missing," said Kelley. "That's beyond rare."

Kelley said authorities have twice searched the deep ravine, creek and railroad tracks located near the end of his street by air and on foot.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/day_three_search_continues_hun.html


July 2010

Blink - July 23, 2010

17.  Sondra says:
July 23, 2010 at 1:51 am

Could DeDe be the red head in truck ….

This is exactly who I believe was in that truck. She is FOS also, her vehicle was processed as well.  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-16/


August 2010

Crews Search Again In Kyron Horman Case
August 8, 2010

Crews returned to northwest Portland on Saturday in the search for missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

FOX 12 has confirmed that a tip from DeDe Spicher -- a friend of Kyron's stepmother Terri Horman -- is what sparked the search.

Search teams were seen near a field off Cornelius Pass Road, about one mile south of Skyline School. Kyron was last seen at the school June 4 and his stepmother was the last person known to have seen him.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/news/24556227/detail.html


Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
August 18, 2010

<snipped>

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

I would be, frankly, surprised if TerriHorman did not eventually face charges in this case, Stavley said. I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


October 2012

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
October 23, 2012

Desiree Young's lawyer has filed a motion asking a judge to compel DeDe Spicher, a friend of Terri Moulton Horman's, to answer his questions after she declined to answer 142 questions during a deposition he took earlier this month stemming from Young's civil lawsuit against Horman.

Multnomah County sheriff's investigators looking into the disappearance of Kyron Horman, a second-grader who went missing from Skyline School on June 4, 2010, were interested in the whereabouts of Spicher on that day.

Spicher declined to answer any questions posed by Young's lawyers on Oct. 5 that involved Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmom, or Kyron -- each time asserting her Fifth Amendment constitutional right not to incriminate herself.

Spicher also declined to answer questions about where she was on June 4, 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


July 2013

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit against stepmom
July 30, 2013

<snipped>

A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney.  He said that DeDe Spicher has testified before the grand jury for the criminal case.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify.

<snipped>

http://www.krem.com/story/news/2014/10/02/15114092/


September 2013

Mom of missing Kyron won't 'let Terri win'
Sunday, September 1, 2013

<snipped>

Volunteers with the group Kyron Horman's World Soldiers set up a staging area in northwest Portland off Skyline Boulevard. They recruited two non-profit search agencies, and said they had an overwhelming response from volunteers.

Aided by 10 search dog teams, around 60 volunteers each day scoured the area around Skyline Boulevard and Germantown Road -- the same area searchers combed shortly after Kyron disappeared in 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.koin.com/news/marion-county/volunteers-continue-search-for-kyron

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IN HIS OWN WORDS

Dede's Attorney - Chad Stavely - August 18, 2010

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case.  I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."

Video (.50)
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/

Family of Kyron Horman planning new search during Labor Day weekend
Posted: Sep 04, 2015 5:17 PM PDT

The family of Kyron Horman is organizing another search for the missing boy five years after he disappeared from Skyline School.

The search is happening now in the Skyline area. But Desiree Young, Kyron's mother, is trying to keep the specific location private, so not to compromise anything they might find.

Kyron was 7 when he disappeared from Skyline School on June 4, 2010.

Young said now that five years has come and gone since Kyron was last seen, people are reaching out to her directly to share what they know. While she's not comfortable talking about what that information is, she said it's brought them back here to the Skyline area to search for evidence once again.

Young said dozens of people will be out looking for any evidence that leads them to Kyron. Including K9 teams from as far away as Florida and California.

Young told FOX 12 she's hopeful this latest search turns up something.

"I think this year's our year. We're tired of waiting, tired of the silence and we just want answers. I'm gonna do it until we can bring him home. Not going to give up on that," said Young.

<snipped>

The new search is expected to go through Labor Day weekend.

The family is still looking for more volunteers who are 18 or older. Those who would like to volunteer should send an email to Young's sister at justice4kyron@yahoo.com.

http://www.kptv.com/story/29964131/family-of-kyron-horman-planning-new-search-during-labor-day-weekend

Kyron's Auntie - Kelly Ramirez

“It has been five years now and we still don't know where Kyron is.  Our hearts were broken the day the unthinkable happened, a day there is no moving on from. Each day we live with the unknown, while silently praying today is the day he comes home to us. Our nightmare will not end until Kyron is home.”

https://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


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Kaine's Bring Kyron Home website has been down for almost a month now.  Maybe ... just maybe ... dots are being connected behind the scenes ... dots that imply that an investigative resolution to the Kyron Horman case is about to happen.


Mounting Evidence

Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012

Video Excerpt (1:40)

In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have mounting evidence against the boy's stepmother.  "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/


Extreme Confidence

Kaine Horman - July, 2013

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


A Lot is Happening

Kaine Horman - February 20, 2014

"There is nothing more important to me than keeping my daughter safe and bringing him [Kyron] home.  We have work to do. A lot of it is happening outside the courtroom, so we have a lot of things that need to get done. We are continuing to work with investigators and we're continuing to drive closure to his [Kyron's] case."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html

Ore. searchers look for 'any clue' about Kyron Horman
3:40 p.m. PDT September 6, 2015

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Searchers on Sunday continued to look for any clues in the disappearance of Kyron Horman five years ago, when he was just 7 years old.

"We are looking for anything that would give us a clue as to where he [Kyron] might be, looking for any of the clothing he might have been wearing," said Dennis Herring with the KlaasKIDS Foundation. "Anything like that could give us an indication of where he was."

<snipped>

http://www.krem.com/story/news/local/northwest/2015/09/06/ore-searchers-look-for-any-clue-about-kyron-horman/71823332/


Kyron's mom: 'Even though you hope to find answers, you really don't want to ...'
Published: Sep 6, 2015 at 5:29 PM PDT

PORTLAND, Ore. – Desiree Young, the mother of missing Kyron Horman, said Sunday it was excruciatingly hard to wait the two hours to hear from the medical examiner what or who the bones found during a search for her son belonged to.

The bones searchers found Saturday near Forest Park ended up being from an animal. But that time of uncertainty was something she never had felt before.

Dozens of volunteers have been going through the park and the neighboring area off Skyline Boulevard searching for Kyron this weekend. The 7-year-old was last seen in June 2010.

It wasn’t just volunteers but also K-9 units throughout Oregon that came to join the search this holiday weekend.

When the bones were found, and it wasn’t clear whether they were Kyron’s, the memory of that moment brought his mother to tears.

“Even though you hope to find answers, you really don’t want to find answers too at the same time,” Desiree said. “So finding bones is very upsetting and especially this time, because it was the first time where I looked and I couldn’t definitively say.”

The search isn’t over. On Sunday night crews will be mapping out where to look Monday.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Kyrons-mom-Even-though-you-hope-to-find-answers-you-really-dont-want-to-325173761.html

Kyron Horman's mom on weekend search: 'I have to remember he needs me to do this'
Sep 06, 2015 8:08 PM PDT

Desiree Young said planning and fundraising for the weekend searches began six months ago.

On Saturday, the discovery of bones sent a shock through the search parties. Police determined the bones were from an animal, but Young said it was agony waiting for that determination to be made.

"Even though you hope to find answers, you really don't want to find answers too, at the same time," she said, adding, "It'll probably take a couple weeks for me to sleep again."

Young said she continues to be overwhelmed by the amount of people who volunteer their time to search for her son.

<snipped>

No arrests have ever been made in the case, but Young continues to point the finger at Kyron's former stepmother, Terri Horman.

"Terri doesn't make friends, and it's fortunate for us, because it helps us," Young said Sunday.

<snipped>

Young said over time, they learn more about Terri Horman's behavior the day Kyron disappeared.

"The world's closing in around Terri and I'm coming for her and we're going to get her in jail if it's the last thing I do," Young said.

As for the weekend search, Young said there is plenty to take away from it.

"I have to remember he needs me to do this," Young said of her son. "We're finding where he's not, and that's helpful too."

A $50,000 reward has been offered in the case. Anyone with information is asked to call the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office tip line at 503-261-2847.

http://www.kptv.com/story/29971383/kyron-hormans-mom-on-weekend-search-i-have-to-remember-he-needs-me-to-do-this


Kyron Horman's mom: 'Strategic' search helping them hone in
5:10 p.m. PDT September 6, 2015

<snipped>

More than 60 volunteers were helping with this latest search and most of them did not even know Kyron or his family before his disappearance first made headlines.  Some of them have law enforcement connections, others are just strangers touched by the family's painful plight.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/


Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

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http://www.kptv.com/story/29971383/kyron-hormans-mom-on-weekend-search-i-have-to-remember-he-needs-me-to-do-this

 ::snipping3::
No arrests have ever been made in the case, but Young continues to point the finger at Kyron's former stepmother, Terri Horman.

"Terri doesn't make friends, and it's fortunate for us, because it helps us," Young said Sunday.

 ::snipping3::

"The world's closing in around Terri and I'm coming for her and we're going to get her in jail if it's the last thing I do," Young said.

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Are these not direct quotes from Desiree stated against terri?
So according to Blinkoncrime can we expect Desiree to be arrested or have charges filed against her for the mere mention of terri's name??? Also,why would dede have her phone turned off and left in her truck the day Kyron went "missing" when dede claimed her Mom went home sick from work that day and dede was worried about her?Phoned turned off and left in truck for 2 hours.Was this the same 2 hours terri has unaccounted for  time that day?I know if I had a sick elderly parent that had to leave work and go home,my phone would have been attached to my hip,turned on.
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http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments

September 6, 2015 at 12:57 am

I saw her post that and she mentioned June 4th. Unequivocally, that did not happen. One of the major reasons that LE kept pounding away at DDS was because there was absolutely no contact between her and TH since March (bday party) on either cell and since DDS had her phone off in her truck that day- they could were “positive” someone had to buy a burner. Either LE posited that as a theory and never bothered to share with DY that it was disproven, or other. There is a reason DY is not speaking publicly right now, and Kelly is discussing the search without mention of DDS or direct allegations of TH.
B

THE DISCONNECT

Karma ... whether turned on or off ... I suspect that Dede did leave her cell in her vehicle thus giving the false impression that she did not leave the farm on the morning of June 4, 2010.  However ... inquiring minds want to know ... when the cell phone left in Dede's vehicle is considered ... from what phone did she receive that alleged 11:15 am call that Blink referenced in her blog on July 26, 2010?  Could it have been a burner phone ... a burner phone purchased prior to June 4, 2010?  

 
Blink-on-Crime - July 26, 2010

<snipped>

According to several sources, DeDe Spicher, Terri’s roommate  post Kaine’s restraining order,  was working in a garden near the Horman home the day of Kyron’s disappearance when she received a call at approximately 11:15 am. She left abruptly, returning at approximately 1:00 pm. DeDe was unreachable on her cell phone during that time and the property owner became concerned. Spicher is a long time friend and workout companion of Horman’s.

<snipped>

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-1/


Blink-on-Crime - September 4, 2013

DeDe arrived at her job at Westwind Farm Studio–a sprawling and lush forty-plus acre property scheduled to be on the Garden Conservatory Tour the next day. She parked at the main house, left her cell phone which was turned on, and her lunch cooler in her Ford Explorer.

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/

Thank you Janet
Hmmm....very contradicting statements about dede's phone.
Strange.
Do you think there is some kinda court order against Desiree or anyone close to her,to not mention terri's or dede's names?

Karma ... Desiree has been far from silent regarding Terri ... regarding Dede.  Contrary to Kaine ...  the nature of Kyron's Mom does not allow her to hold back and say nothing about what she has learned in ongoing briefings with investigators regarding case updates.  I believe there is so much more that Desiree is privy to but is not revealing.

Think about it.  Kaine does not dispute the truth regarding what Desiree reveals but ... obviously disagrees with the wisdom of revealing.  If my now 12 year old grandson had been missing for five years and ... if I had been privy to the truth through ongoing case updates with investigators ... I have no doubt that I would be a Desiree ... not as young ... not as pretty but ... a Desiree nevertheless.


Desiree Young - February 2, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop

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THE EMAILS

Desiree Young

Severe Hatred - Great Detail

Kyron Horman's Mother Speaks Out
11/15/2010

Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.

I now believe without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way

<snipped>

http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247


Kaine Horman

Adds to the Pile

Missing Kyron's Dad Points Finger at Stepmom
Kaine Horman suspects his estranged wife knows what happened to his son.
11/19/2010

Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...

Reporter: Did they only solidify your belief that Terri's responsible?

Kaine: Everything that we see moving forward just adds to the pile.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1

When I consider the words of Desiree in her respective press conferences yesterday and in June ... words implicating Terri and Dede  ...  I don't think so.  Nevertheless ... when the compromising of the investigation is considered ... she wouldn't go there.  I give Desiree credit that she is aware of the line in the sand.  That is the reason Desiree instructed her attorney to drop the $10,000,000 lawsuit again Terri.

Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

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Reminder

Desiree Young - September 1, 2013

"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)."

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html

Oh yes,I totally agree with that Janet.
I also believe Desiree and Kaine know much more that any outsiders,even more than people who have "sources" and "inside info".Or so they say..... ::MonkeyCool::

Thank you Janet
I agree and thank you for always being there for Desiree,Kaine and little Kyron.

Thanks Karma ... thanks on many levels.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm off.  A Labor Day family gathering is taking place at the home of my brother and SIL.  Hubby and my contribution?  My famous (Safeway) carrot cake.  Throw away the box ... place the cake on my mother's beautiful platter and I fool everyone (I think).

Have a good day Karma.

12:25 PM PT

Janet

Have a great Labor Day Janet.
I LOVE carrot cake   ::monkeyflag3::

thanks for the link to this video Janet, as it has info ive never heard b4
does anyone know where this part of the school grounds are that she
is talking about

at about 7minutes into video Desiree says
this is the last place he was seen walking right here
and indicates with her hand at where she is standing

the video
Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

and just a minute or 2 b4 the Kyron was walking here statement
Desiree talks about animal bones found, but dosent say where
this article says

5:10 p.m. PDT September 6, 2015
 ::snipping3::
One of the searchers on Saturday came across a set of bones in the woods near Sauvie Island, but that did not turn out to be a break in the case. About two hours later, a medical examiner determined the bones to be nonhuman, according to Sgt. Pete Simpson of Portland police.
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/

Hi cw618 ... it's been a while.

Could it be that Desiree has learned through ongoing briefings with investigators that Kyron and Terri were witnessed outside the school after 8:45 am on the morning of June 4, 2010?  Think about it.  Over five years later respective attorneys of Kyron's parents have never held the PPS legally responsible in a civil lawsuit for the disappearance of their son.

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


Desiree Young - September 6, 2015

"We know one of the last places he was seen was right here walking and that is my connection to him."  (6:15)

http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/

cw618 ... where is "a gravel path in front of the school's playground"?  Could that be the location Desiree held yesterday's press conference?


Kyron Horman investigators ask public to help track white pickup Terri Horman drove
August 11, 2010

<snipped>

Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared.

Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard. Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair.

Underhill said investigators want to identify anybody "in or in immediate proximity to that truck."

"We're looking for additional witnesses," he added, standing in the Brooks Hill Historic Church across from the school in front of blown-up photos of the Horman truck staged at each location.

The appeal to the public comes as investigators continue to try to determine the whereabouts of Terri Moulton Horman and her friend DeDe Spicher during overlapping hours on the day Kyron disappeared.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html


Desiree Young - September 6, 2015

"We know one of the last places he was seen was right here walking and that is my connection to him."  (6:15)

"I'm still here.  I'm going to fight for Kyron.  The world is closing in around Terri and I'm coming for her.  We're going to get her in jail if its the last thing I do."  (13:00)  

http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/

Three people?  A man?  When Desiree's May 31, 2015 claim that Terri and Kyron walked out of the school together is considered ... a claim I believe would not have been made if it had not been derived from an official foundation ...  could it be that it was Dede and her former child advocate boyfriend who were waiting in the truck?

The video of the following KGW interview with Desiree and Kaine is no longer available at the posted link.  I have emailed Kyle Iboshi.  Maybe Kyle will provide me with working links to the two part interview.

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08-28-2010, 12:02 PM
BeanE

White Truck Transciption

Kaine Horman & Desiree Young 8/27 pt.2
http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html

-2:50

Reporter: Potentially one person in the truck... three people... the white truck, Terri's truck... can you talk...

Desiree: (interrupts) Kaine's truck (laughs)

Reporter: a little bit about that...

Reporter: Kaine's truck. I'm sorry... What are your thoughts on that new information? Do you feel as though Dede was in that truck?

Desiree: (interrupts) It just makes me feel stronger that, that there were people helping her... that Kyron saw it all and was involved and that there were other people helping her... which is what we suspected.

Reporter: So because... but do you believe that a man was spotted? I mean again, these are witness accounts, and I don't know how much information that you've been privy to about what the, what is the likeliest scenario?

Desiree: Well first of all, why would Kyron even be outside the school? Why would he even be near a truck with somebody else in it?

You know. I mean it's significant in a huge way to the case. If the timeline played out the way that it supposedly did? That contradicts that completely.

So I mean, other than that (shrugs), that's how significant it was to me.

Reporter: How authentic do you think that witness is? I mean how...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side) Very authentic.

Reporter: So it's a credible...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side and down) Yep.

Reporter: ...witness.

Reporter: And what exactly are they claiming that they saw?

Kaine: (audibly sighs/intakes breath, clears throat)

Kaine: Well I think, Sarah, I think to be more direct about it... I think that law enforcement needs to determine that still.

Desiree: Yeah, that part.

Kaine: We've been briefed on a lot of the information and the tips and the things that they're looking into, and that was part of that bucket of tips that they're...

Desiree: (interrupts) Yeah.

Kaine: ...that they're working their way through. Until they confirm and until they bring some of that information forward to the greater public, they're still looking into it, so I think us commenting on that is a little bit premature.

There's how we feel about it...

Desiree: (interrupts) Yeah.

Kaine: ...and then there are the facts. And the facts...

Reporter: (interrupts) How do you feel about it?

Kaine: How do I feel about it? I feel it's definitely significant. I don't know how credible the sources are. I'm hoping that they are because it helps us bring more of those pieces that we talked about before, the puzzle, in to paint the bigger picture, but until they're confirmed, I'm not going to maintain a sense of false hope that they're valid, until they're actually valid, until I see them and get from law enforcement that yep, this is verified, this is air tight, this is another piece that we found, and then I will believe it.

Desiree: Yeah.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?112948-8-27-KGW-TV-Interview-with-Desiree-and-Kaine/page3

Transcript h/t - BeanE

My theory implies that Dede and Dede's former child advocate boyfriend have both been afforded immunity in exchange for their respective truthful testimony at an upcoming trial ... truthful testimony regarding their involvment and knowledge encompassing the secreting of Kyron Horman.

Think about it. In a 2012 deposition ... Dede was questioned by Desiree's attorney about her relationship with JW.  Why?  On so many levels ... the deposition implicated Dede in wrongdoing.

My theory also implies that when all is said and done neither Dede nor JW is privy to the whereabouts of a secreted Kyron ... the whereabouts of a live Kyron.  In other words ... the connecting dots that begin with Terri stop when a safe-haven network enters the scenario.


Desiree Young - June 29, 2010

"I believe that he s stashed I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us [to him]."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/


Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

"I believe that Respondent has harmed or secreted Kyron.''

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


Dede Spicher - The Deposition - October 5, 2010

Pages 4/20 - 5/20

Q.  Have you had any significant others in your life?
A.  Yes? ....

Read more:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


Dede Spicher - The Deposition - October 5, 2010

Excerpts:

Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz

Read more:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf

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Desiree Young - September 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first.  The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516

In June ... Desiree made it known that the Labor Day Weekend search was not being organized without the input of the Sheriff's office.

In Sunday's press conference Desiree shared that the Jackson County Sheriff's Office sent four additional dog teams.


Reminder

Desiree Young - September 1, 2013

"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)."

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html


Official Input

'I still wake up crying and praying, hoping today will be the day'
June 4, 2015

<snipped>

In September, Young is planning another search.

She hopes to bring in 15 tracking and cadaver dog teams from Washington, Idaho, California and Florida to search in the Portland area, but wouldn't say where. She's organized several other searches in the past.

She said they've turned up evidence implicating Terri Moulton Horman, who was married to Kaine Horman at the time Kyron went missing. Terri Horman took the boy to a science fair before class at Skyline School and then walked him to his classroom before leaving.

"We've found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected to Kyron," Young said, referring to the previous searches. "She's not going to talk until we have evidence to confront her. We have to find it."

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation. She has never faced charges.

Young said she's coordinating the search with the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, but said the agency wouldn't take part. She plans to keep searching until every inch of territory is covered.

"There are so many different areas that have to be searched thoroughly," Young said. "It's a big canvas. There is no way that law enforcement can do that."

http://www.kval.com/news/local/Kyron-Hormans-mom-It-doesnt-get-easier-with-time-305763801.html


Press Conference

Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
September 6, 2015
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

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Justice for Kyron Horman!

UPDATE #113      4 HOURS AGO

Thank you so much to all our volunteers that came out to help us search for our Kyron. It always amazes me to see how loved he is by people he has never even met, how one little boy can make such a difference in the heart of others. There just aren’t the words to express how much it means to us to have so many stand beside us and continue to support our efforts to bring Kyron home after 5 excruciating years. It’s disappointing to walk away without our answers, but our haystack is getting smaller, and it will continue to get smaller because we will never give up! We will never quit searching! Thanks to Pacific Crest Search and Rescue, we have been given the opportunity to search more often. We are going to be shifting gears a bit moving forward, which will be more productive and narrow down our search areas significantly, so stay tuned.

A special thank you goes out to Klaas Kids and Pacific Crest. You are amazing, and we couldn’t do this without you. You continue to fill our hearts with hope, even when walking away from a search with no answers, knowing how much we desperately need it. Thank you to Beth, who runs our Missing Kyron Horman Facebook page and Stacey with Kyron Horman’s World Soldiers. You make sure Kyron is never forgotten and his face is seen every day.

Thank you to our new teams we had the privilege to work with, Southern Oregon Search and Rescue and Ashland Police. It was a privilege to work with all of you, and we hope you will continue with us in our future searches.

To our Kyron~
Our lives are not the same without you, and we will never be whole until you are with us. We will never give up, we will find you, and the person responsible for ripping you away and stealing your innocence will pay for what they have done to you. As we continue to search and continue to move closer to you, the road blocks that have been standing in our way are going to be torn down. We will no longer stand for being held back, and those people are going to feel the pressure.

We love you to the moon our sweet boy,
Auntie Kelly

We Promise We Will Find you!
We Will Never Stop!

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman

FLASHBACK - FIVE YEARS

Families Throwing Birthday Parties for Missing Kyron Horman
09/09/2010

The tradition continues of separate birthday parties for Kyron Horman, one thrown by his father and the other by his mother and her husband. But this year's celebrations are missing the guest of honor.

Kyron Horman, who turned 8 on Thursday, vanished more than three months ago from his Portland, Ore.-area school. As the investigation continues and his classmates return to school this week, his mother Desiree Young still made plans for his Thursday night party.

"I'm hoping to do a slideshow of Kyron and his pictures, and play his favorite music, and we're going to have cake," says Young, who lives in Medford, five hours south of Portland. "We're going to talk about our memories of Kyron and pray and have family there and just celebrate Kyron's life."

Kyron's father Kaine Horman, who was divorced from Desiree in 2003, will have a separate celebration on Sunday in Portland at a family fun park.

"[We] play mini-golf, we've done his birthdays there before," he says. "It's probably some place we'd be doing his birthday again or bowling or swimming or something."

This year, the boy's stepmom Terri Moulton Horman won't be a part of the festivities either. She helped raise Kyron since he was a toddler, but was reportedly the last person to see the boy. Since then, Kaine filed a restraining order along with divorce papers.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20420187,00.html

DESIREE AND KAINE - NOT RULED OUT?

I disagree.  Contrary to the belief of some ... it makes sense to me that it could be assumed that the words of spokespersons within the Kyron Horman investigation have made it clear that Desiree and Kaine have indeed been "ruled out" as persons of interest in the disappearance of their son.  Think about it.  Kyron's parents are in the investigative loop while Terri is not and according to DA Rees that is exactly the way it should remain.


Attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman continue to argue over who can ask what in depositions
October 8, 2013

<snipped>

Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees has filed a separate motion to limit Terri Horman's deposition of Kaine Horman.

Because Kaine Horman is the victim of "an apparent crime against his own child,'' he has a legal right to information about his missing son, Rees argued.

"The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation,'' Rees wrote.

Kaine Horman should be prohibited from answering any questions about law enforcement methods used to investigate his son's disappearance, physical evidence gathered, witness statements or questions asked by law enforcement, or whether he has testified before a grand jury, Rees wrote.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html


The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office Statement - July 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosav

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

July 2010!!!  Dede Spicher had distanced herself from Terri Horman for over 3 years at the time of the September 2013 Blink interview.  Why?


Blink-on-Crime - September 4, 2013

..... Spicher told them it was 10: 00 PM , and reminded them that she has not had any contact with Terri since July 2010. Spicher told investigators that she was not comfortable with the proposal and would definitely need to sleep on it. They told her they would follow up with her. .....

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/#comments

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Karma ... five years have come and gone.  Investigators have yet to determine "the final answer"... the location of a deceased or secreted Kyron.  Could Auntie Kelly's message imply that an indictment is forthcoming ... an indictment based on circumstantial evidence?

++++

CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF


Desiree Young - February 2, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."

http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop


Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012

Video Excerpt (1:40)  In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have mounting evidence against the boy's stepmother.  "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/


Desiree Young - September 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Desiree Young - July 20, 2015

"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Justice for Kyron Horman!

UPDATE #115    1 HOUR AGO

I'm sitting here this morning thinking of you, I can't believe you are 13 today. I'm sad because you have missed out on the past 6 birthday parties and memories, they were taken from you, she took them from you, as if she had a right to take something like that. I think back to our mornings with coffee for momma, and you laying right next to me hugging me watching cartoons, you being just like me, not really awake yet, not really talking yet. Us Just sitting there in the moment, soaking in every second. I miss all of the things you are to me but most especially, I miss these moments of us just being us, so similar, so together in that. I'm sorry I couldn't bring you home for your birthday this year. I love you baby.
Momma

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman

 ::MonkeyTears::


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::MonkeyTears::

Bring Kyron Home - September 9, 2015

Happy 13th birthday Kyron. You've captured the hearts of so many across the US and around the world. Kids all over are safer due to changes that came about after you were taken. So many are eager and awaiting your return. We miss you and love you more than words can describe. Hope you are smiling today and know that we are coming for you no matter where you are or how long it takes.

http://www.bringkyronhome.org/


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THE ONLY FOCUS

It appears that for over five years Kaine and Desiree have not wavered in their belief that Terri is the motivating force behind the disappearance of their son.  Why has the focus of Kyron's parents not taken another direction in their desperate quest for answers?  What convincing info have they been privy to in ongoing briefings with investigators?  Logic dictates that a civil suit against the PPS by Kyron's parents has never been a consider from the the get-go..

2010

Desiree and Tony Young - Kaine Horman - July 22, 2010
"We have been briefed by law enforcement on the most recent developments in Kyron’s case.  We have been informed that they have identified a person that has been in close communication with Terri Moulton Horman since Kyron went missing and her name is DeDe Spicher.  She has not only been in close communication with Terri but has been providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son.  Additional information provided shows that she is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron’s disappearance, not to cooperate as well. ...."
http://www.katu.com/news/local/99076504.html

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010
"Respondent failed the first polygraph test law enforcement gave her regarding Kyron's disappearance.  Law enforcement requested a second polygraph within days after the first. She appeared for that second test, but walked out in the middle of the test.  Law enforcement requested a third test- Respondent resisted the test for approximately one week. She finally agreed and took the third polygraph test. She completed the third test and failed again." (Pages 4-5)
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010
19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

2011

Desiree Young - February 2, 2011
"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop

Desiree Davidson Young - March 6, 2011
"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up. No one person should ever harm another especially a child that can’t defend themselves. Children and my Kyron only ask for one thing in life and that is to be loved and protected."
http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Team-Desiree-3/133864036644663

2012

Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012
Video Excerpt (1:40)  In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have mounting evidence against the boy's stepmother.  "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."
http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/

2013

Kaine Horman - July 30, 2013
“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case.  Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that.  At the same time trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities.”
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/

Desiree Young - September 2013
"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."
http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues

2014

Kaine Horman - February 20, 2014
"There is nothing more important to me than keeping my daughter safe and bringing him [Kyron] home.  We have work to do. A lot of it is happening outside the courtroom, so we have a lot of things that need to get done. We are continuing to work with investigators and we're continuing to drive closure to his [Kyron's] case."
http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html

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Desiree Young - June 21, 2014
“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”
http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/

Desiree Young - July 11, 2014
"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516

2015

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015
"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?  I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971

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Sheriff Daniel Staton - Media Release - May 28, 2015
Kyron Horman Investigative Update
".... The Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office has participated in the efforts to resolve Kyron Horman’s disappearance from the beginning. A grand jury has received evidence in the case and is empaneled to hear available relevant testimony. ...."
http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2015-05/1276/84881/KH_Missing_PR.pdf

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015
"... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko

Kaine Horman - June 4, 2015
Horman said he believes his ex-wife, Terri Moulton-Horman, was involved in his son’s disappearance.  “I think a lot of people feel the same way through the evidence. Not through a gut feel, but what we know about polygraph failures.  She has told us, straight out, she’s failed those tests. No, they’re not admissible in court, but in the general discussion of things, they’re perfectly admissible. I know there’s involvement, we’re not going to get help down that path. I’ve just kind of left that behind a long time ago.”
http://koin.com/2015/06/04/kaine-horman-on-kyron-terri-life-after-5-years/

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance_

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xHAmN9EDVhU/TFBD7_cM2OI/AAAAAAAAA0w/cUKnsKWrXLE/s320/spicher.jpg)

Desiree Young - June 5, 2015
“She’s (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality – she’s definitely a person of interest.”
http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html

Desiree Young - July 20, 2015
"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater

Desiree Young - September 6, 2015
"We know one of the last places he was seen was right here walking and that is my connection to him."  (6:15)
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/

A CONNECTION?

Sheriff Dan Staton - September 17, 2010

When asked if people would be shocked to find out what they know, Staton took a long silence.  "I know I'm taking a long pause on that, I have to think through that answer. I think there are things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you, that you'll think about later on when it's over.  We have a knowledge of things we don't want to know about ... of things we wish we didn't know."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Sheriff-No-evidence-Kyron-Horman-is-not-alive-103003704.html


Desiree Davidson Young - March 6, 2011
 
"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up. No one person should ever harm another especially a child that can’t defend themselves. Children and my Kyron only ask for one thing in life and that is to be loved and protected."

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Team-Desiree-3/133864036644663

Five years later the silence from investigation spokespersons is deafening.  Could it be that locating a secreted Kyron remains the final dot that needs to be connected?

+++++

STASHED?

2010

Desiree: Kyron is 'stashed' somewhere
June 29, 2010

The mother of missing seven-year-old Kyron Horman continues to hold out hope that her son is alive and believes he was stashed somewhere by his step-mother, according to a report in PEOPLE.

Kyron has been missing since June 4 when he was last seen during the science fair at Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland.

I believe that he s stashed, Desiree Young told PEOPLE on Tuesday. I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us [to him]

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/


Sheriff's office: Progress continues in search for missing Kyron Horman
July 23, 2010

<snipped>

Q: Why has the sheriff's department pulled back so drastically from talking to the media/public about this case?

This is an ongoing criminal investigation, our responsibility is to resolve this case and bring Kyron home. We are not going to release details of our efforts that will breach the integrity of this investigation or potential prosecution at a later date. If we have information that would benefit our investigation, or help in finding Kyron we will release it.

<snipped>

Q: While you have said this is a criminal investigation, do you believe a crime was committed in Kyron's disappearance?

Criminal behavior has occurred and we will continue to investigate toward a resolution.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/mcso_progress_continues_in_sea.html


2015

Sheriff Daniel Staton - Media Release - May 28, 2015

Kyron Horman Investigative Update

"The Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office has participated in the efforts to resolve Kyron Horman’s disappearance from the beginning. A grand jury has received evidence in the case and is empaneled to hear available relevant testimony. ...."

"The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and our agency partners in this investigation remain committed to solving this crime, and bringing Kyron home. ...."
 
http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2015-05/1276/84881/KH_Missing_PR.pdf


Kaine Horman on Kyron, Terri, life after 5 years
June 4, 2015

<snipped>

For the last 5 years, Horman has lived each moment believing his son will be found.

“I’d almost call it a belief,” he said. “Hope to me is good, but it’s also kind of uncertain.” ....

"He’s potentially either in the area with someone or even outside our area with someone else,” Horman theorized.

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2015/06/04/kaine-horman-on-kyron-terri-life-after-5-years

CELL PHONE DISCREPANCIES - CHANGING STORIES

Kyron Horman investigation: Transcript of interview with Sheriff Dan Staton
July 2, 2010

<snipped>

Jung: "There are a couple of other things that we had heard. One: Sauvie Island, that there were cell phone pings from Terri Horman's cell phone that pinpointed her on being Sauvie Island the day of Kyron's disappearance. Can you talk about that at all?"

Staton: "That portion of the investigation I can't talk about. I'm sorry."

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_investigation_tra.html

Official Sauvie Island Searches

June 11

June 13 & 14

October 2 & 3

October 9 & 10

October 13 & 14

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_timeline_of_event.html


Dateline - Little Boy Lost
July 26, 2010

<snipped>

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

And there was something else that gave Desiree and Tony a sinking feeling that something wasn't right. They say Terri's cell phone records apparently didn't match up with where she said she was on the morning of Kyron's disappearance.

TONY YOUNG: That to me is strike two. That's huge… There's starting to be some structural problems with what she's saying at that point. And then it continues to stack up.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/little-boy-lost/#.VfWcjxFViko


Kaine tells Oprah (Terri) 'would change her story daily'
September 16, 2010

<snipped>

"She would change her story daily, if not more than that.  Every time you talked to her, it was a little bit different about what happened that day."

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/06/11763336/

MAGIC CLEANERS

Magic Cleaners?  In a September 2013 KGW interview Sari Shanti ... the proprietor of Magic Cleaners ... confirms that Terri was in the establishment on the morning of June 4, 2010 ... in the establishment "ALONE".

Where was Kiara?  When Desiree's latest revelation is considered ... the question could also be asked "Where was Kyron"?  In the truck?  Who was watching Kiara and Kyron?

Why did Terri not mention the Magic Cleaners' stop in her timeline ... her timeline in her own words in an email sent to a friend on June 5, 2010?

Why was the Magic Cleaners' stop not mentioned prior to the September 2013 subpoena to depose issued by Terri's attorney?

+++++++

Magic Cleaners?

Police obtain stores' surveillance footage in missing boy case
July 9, 2010

Police investigating the disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman have asked two area grocery stores to submit their surveillance footage.

Managers of the Fred Meyer store in Hillsboro and the Albertsons on Beaverton-Hillsdale Hwy. have confirmed they've submitted surveillance video and are cooperating with detectives.

<snipped>

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/98147474.html


Terri's Timeline - In Her Own Words

Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Aug 9, 2010

 Long before news of the alleged murder-for-hire plot and sexting affairs, it seems Terri Moulton Horman knew suspicions were settled on her, according to e-mails written by Horman and obtained first by KATU News.

“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, was reported to be vanished from Skyline School during a science fair. Investigators say Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron.

<snipped>

“I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Kitty to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them ..."

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


Request to Depose Staff of Magic Cleaners

Judge to rule by Monday on what discovery Terri Horman can obtain prior to divorce, child custody hearing
September 13, 2013

<snipped>

Court records indicate that Terri Horman's lawyers subpoenaed O'Donnell, as well as three Skyline School employees  Kyron's second-grade teacher Kristine Porter, kindergarten/first grade teacher Easter Mathews and school secretary Susan Hall.  They subpoenaed to depose three children who attended Skyline School, and staff of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24 Hour Fitness.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html


Where was Kiara and Kyron?  Who was Watching?

Judge: Terri Horman's lawyers cannot question investigator
September 16, 2013

<snipped>

Investigators said for years that Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron before he disappeared from Skyline Elementary in July, 2010. But her attorneys said Friday that was not the case. ....

Judge Kantor Monday granted a motion filed by Kaine Horman's attorneys to stop Terri Horman's attorneys from questioning deputy O'Donnell.

However, Terri Horman's attorneys can conduct their own investigation. They will be allowed to interview witnesses, including teachers at Skyline Elementary and employees of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24-hour Fitness. They will not be allowed to question Skyline students. ....

Video Excerpt (1:25)

Kyle Iboshi:  Terri Horman's lawyers also hope to question the owner of Magic Cleaners in Beaverton.  She says that Terri came in  ALONE and dropped off some clothes the day Kyron disappeared.

Sari Shanti:  She dropped off two shirts for cleaning.  There was nobody with her.

Reporter:  A little kid?

Sari Shanti: No.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html


This is the Moment

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?  I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTYRa3UGTQnQLCmn-eHI0yZsnYSJ4xY5SULC_rTRAr-31fkrng)


Right Here Walking

Desiree Young - September 6, 2015

"We know one of the last places he was seen was right here walking and that is my connection to him."  (6:15)

http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/

The Coat?  The Backpack?  The Deception?


2010

TERRI HORMAN

Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Aug 9, 2010

<snipped>

“The teacher thought I said I was going to take Kyron with Kitty for a doctor’s appt.,” she wrote on June 5, 2010. “I said I was going to look at other exhibits - how do you mess that up? His coat and backpack were still at school. I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list. ...”

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


MATT SHELBY

Kyron Horman disappears during Oregon school science fair
June 7, 2010

<snipped>

Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.

<snipped>

http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=2


JASON GATES

Sheriff’s office tries to dispel rumors about boy's disappearance
June 21, 2010

<snipped>

There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

<snipped>

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE

Kyron Horman disappearance: Skyline school parents and students will be interviewed Sunday
June 18, 2010

<snipped>

The sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


MATT SHELBY

Sources: Terri Horman vague on Kyron’s doctor appointment date
July 21, 2010

<snipped>

Portland Public Schools spokesperson Matt Shelby told KATU News, "Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


2015

DESIREE YOUNG

5 Years since Kyron Horman's disappearance; search still going strong
June 4, 2015

<snipped>

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle," said Young.

Kyron's parents believe someone else may have also been involved.

"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact," Young said.

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko

IN THE CROSSHAIRS OF THE STATE'S INVESTIGATION?

No Doubt

Horman Divorce Case Delayed Until 2011
10-07-2010

<snipped>

Attorney Peter Bunch said Terri Horman is no doubt the focus of the criminal investigation into Kyron’s disappearance. He said any testimony or questions about finances that will come up during the divorce proceedings might be used against her by investigators.

"There is no doubt that she's in the crosshairs of the state's investigation," Bunch said.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/14803256/horman-divorce-case-delayed-until-2011-10-07-2010?clienttype=printable


Respondent and Attorneys are Aware

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF


Just a technicality

Desiree Young - June 5, 2015

“She’s (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality – she’s definitely a person of interest.”

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html

THE DISCONNECT

Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24

Following this afternoon’s legal melee, blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief asked prominent Washington State Family Law Attorney, Lea Conner, to weigh in:

<snipped>

There’s a disconnect between Mr. Bunch’s argument that Ms. Horman cannot defend herself because she would incriminate herself in the disappearance of her stepson, and his statement that “If Mr. Horman is really interested in what‘s best for the child, then Mr. Horman wouldn’t object to any visitation by this child’s mother.”

The apparent logic is that Ms. Horman admits that if she speaks, she will incriminate herself in some as-yet-to-be-named crime related to Kyron’s disappearance, yet Mr. Horman is now supposed to trust her to care for his other child, because that’s so obviously in their daughter’s best interest.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/


BRETT E. ENGEL - LEGAL BRIEFING - FEBRUARY 10, 2014
Court Documents for 2-14-14

Page 3
" ... There is a trial scheduled for June 11, 2014 on the issue of what parenting schedule is in the best interests of Kiara Horman, age 5. Father will ask the court to deny parenting time between Kiara and her Mother because Mother presents a credible threat to the health and safety of Kiara. Father will offer testimony from Rodolfo Sanchez that (a) Mother solicited Sanchez's help to kill Father several months before the disappearance of Father's non joint child Kyron and (b) Mother sought to kill Father so she would not lose custody of joint child Kiara. ...."

Pages 8-9
" ...Mother would have this court believe that she has no options, and having Sanchez testify regarding the "meeting" is the only way she can show parenting time with Kiara is appropriate. Nothing could be further from the truth. There were apparently two people present at the "meeting". Mother and Mr. Sanchez. Sanchez is precluded from testifying about the meeting because the meeting is privileged. Mother is not prevented from testifying about the meeting and could so if she did not choose her right against self-incrimination over her right to explain what may have transpired at the meeting. Father's right should not be impacted because Mother is choosing her right to remain silent over her ability to present testimony that rebuts the Sanchez testimony. A litigant's decision to invoke the Fifth Amendment again self-incrimination is not without adverse consequences for the litigant. ...."

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.578520868904505.1073741831.161645780592018&type=1

I hope there will be some new news and developments in Kyron's Missing Person Case.  It's been so long....  ::FlyingFrog::  Where are you Kyron?

Desiree Young - Dr. Phil Show - September 2013
"Terri put everything in writing which God love her has been a blessing for us."


THE TIMELINE - IN DESIREE'S OWN WORDS

According to Desiree's timeline ... Terri was seen leaving the school with Kyron and Kiara immediately following the photo shoot inside Kyron's classroom.

The disconnect?  Terri's own words imply there was a time lapse between leaving the classroom and then leaving the school.

When Desiree's words are considered and when Kyron's parents' ongoing briefings with investigators are considered ... it makes sense that there are no witnesses who have come forward to verify Terri's claim that she and Kyron were looking at "other exhibits" after leaving Ms. Porter's classroom.

When Jason Gates June 21, 2010 statement is considered ... it makes sense that no witnesses had come forward who observed Kyron in the school with "a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls" following Terry's alleged departure with Kiara.


This is the Moment

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?  I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTYRa3UGTQnQLCmn-eHI0yZsnYSJ4xY5SULC_rTRAr-31fkrng)


Right Here Walking

Desiree Young - September 6, 2015

"We know one of the last places he was seen was right here walking and that is my connection to him."  (6:15)

http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/


The Teacher Thought

Terri Horman - In Her Own Words - June 5, 2010

"The teacher thought I said I was going to take Kyron with Kitty for a doctor’s appt.  I said  I was going to look at other exhibits - how do you mess that up? His coat and backpack were still at school. I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list. That and it was highly chaotic - had to been 300 people running around - no coordination ...”

"I didn't just drop him off, I spent time with him, took pictures and he was in safe hands I thought as I watched him walk down the hall.

“Kids saw him after I left. Teacher put him as absent at 10am. Someplace between 9-10 is when we think it happened."

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


Ms Porter had an Email

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015

"... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Last Known Person

Jason Gates - June 21, 2010

“Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared.”

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


It wasn't a Stranger

Desire Young - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko

THE FINAL INVESTIGATIVE PUSH?

Could it be that prior to an indictment ... the recent re-interviews and the current outreach for new tips implies a final investigative push to acquire more evidence/circumstantial evidence related to the secreting of Kyron as well as his whereabouts?  Could it be that ... behind the scenes ... Kyron's parents are working with investigators to bring about that resolution?

+++++

Sheriff Staton - May 28, 2015

".... The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and our agency partners in this investigation remain committed to solving this crime, and bringing Kyron home. The Sheriff’s Office is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the resolution of his disappearance. If you have information that will help us locate Kyron, please contact us through the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office tip line at 503-261-2847."
http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2015-05/1276/84881/KH_Missing_PR.pdf


Kaine Horman - June 3, 2015

According to the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office and District Attorney's Office, more than 4,000 tips have come in. Kaine said there's a big push to re-interview people detectives initially talked with and expand those interviews beyond what happened on or around June 4, 2010.

He's hoping neighbors, anyone in the community who knew the Hormans -- will reach out to investigators via the tip-line (503-261-2847) and offer to be re-interviewed about the case. He said there's already been instances in which re-interviews have brought forward new tips they didn't have on file.
http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Five-years-later-why-Kyron-Hormans-dad-believes-hes-alive-305768091.html


Desiree Young - July 20, 2015

"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case.  This is very good because you remember things after five years.  And people come forward who were previously scared.  Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater


Justice for Kyron Horman!!

UPDATE #114           9 DAYS AGO

The time has come for us to be more aggressive so we can really narrow down our search areas, but in order for us to do that we need all the tips that got called in to the tip line. If you had any sort of tip as to Kyron or Terri’s whereabouts the week prior to June 4th, on June 4th, 2010, or suspicious behavior following Kyron’s disappearance we need to know about it. Please send an e-mail to tips4kyron @ yahoo. com with details on what you saw or heard so that we can get in contact with you. This needs to be done so we can find him. He deserves for us to find him. 5 years is too long, the wait has been too long. It’s time for us to be more aggressive in narrowing our search areas and we cannot do that without your tips. If you know of anyone that does not follow one of Kyron’s Facebook sites and has a tip please pass this info along. The sooner we get the tips the sooner we can accomplish our goal. Thank you so much for all of your support! Tips4kyron @ yahoo. com

https://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


Reminder

Desiree Young - July 30, 2013
“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron.  For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.”
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/

Desiree Young - September 1, 2013
"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)."
http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html

THE LANDSCAPER

DA Don Rees' statement appears to imply that neither the MFH case or the Kyron Horman case stands alone.  Both are intertwined.  Then there is Desiree's Facebook posting seven months later ....

Horman child custody case: Landscaper can testify, but won't be cross-examined about his work with law enforcement
December 16, 2013

<snipped>

The judge asked Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees what the statute of limitations is for attempted murder-for-hire. Rees said it's at least six years. State law says there's no statute of limitation for solicitation to commit murder.

"Nothing said this morning changes where we were a month ago, two months ago. Nothing has changed. The state, to the extent possible, has sought to keep in its control the details of the criminal investigation surrounding the disappearance of this little boy, Kyron Horman,'' Rees said. That would include further information from Sanchez, he said.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/post_389.html


Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Missing boy's stepmother accused of affair
July 13, 2010

Kaine Horman said in the filing that Cook has provided investigators with information about his relationship with Terri Horman, including “hundreds of text messages as well as several photographs of (Terri Horman) in various stages of undress and graphic sexual activity.”

Kaine Horman’s attorney said in the filing that Terri Horman’s “stated personal relationship concerns and sexual overtures to Mr. Cook resemble those made to the man (Terri Horman) previously attempted to hire to murder (Kaine Horman).”

http://www.theolympian.com/2010/07/13/1302999/missing-boys-stepmother-accused.html#ixzz0u9lGt2Ps

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ADDITIONAL WITNESSES?

Prior to an indictment coming down ...  could it be that investigators are currently working with Kyron's parents in a final attempt to locate "additional" witnesses who may have observed a person or persons in or beside Kaine's truck while parked at Skyline on the morning of June 4, 2014.

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Kyron Horman investigators ask public to help track white pickup Terri Horman drove
August 11, 2010

<snipped>

Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared.

Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard. Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair.

Underhill said investigators want to identify anybody "in or in immediate proximity to that truck."

"We're looking for additional witnesses," he added, standing in the Brooks Hill Historic Church across from the school in front of blown-up photos of the Horman truck staged at each location.

The appeal to the public comes as investigators continue to try to determine the whereabouts of Terri Moulton Horman and her friend DeDe Spicher during overlapping hours on the day Kyron disappeared.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html

BEHIND THE INVESTIGATIVE SCENES

Blink - June 23, 2010

46. .... "Let me say this- I am a fan of this MCSO. From Dan Staton to Jason Gates and his team, they have done everything right in my eyes.  I have studied his election campaign, and his career, and this guy is a cops cop and a people’s sheriff. This community is lucky to have him.  That said, I also understand people’s frustration that their information is validated.  I am asking that folks put this Investigative team in a position of faith and trust, above your need to know. This is about Kyron, not us." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-3/#comments

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The ongoing case update briefings with investigators imply that Kyron's parents are in the know.  However ... inquiring minds want to know ....

(a)  Was the photo time-stamped?

(b)  What was the time lapse between the photo time-stamp and the sighting of Terri, Kiara and Kyron outside the school?

(c)  How is it possible that Terri Horman drove from Skyline to Fred Meyers and ... made a purchase in 12 minutes?


1.  STAY TUNED FOLKS

A Posted Timeline

Kyron Horman: Timeline of events since boy's disappearance
May 28, 2015

Kyron Horman went missing Friday, June 4, 2010.  This is a timeline of events. ....

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_timeline_of_event.html


The Timeline is not Accurate

Desiree Young - May 28, 2015

"This timeline is not accurate, stay tuned folks. Watch for the 5 year vigil on the 4th."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kyron-Hormans-World-Soldiers/161645780592018


A Few New Announcements

Kaine Horman - May 20, 2015

Web site is back online. Sorry for the delay. Completely new server to handle any amount of traffic. Had to rebuild the site template and am still re-adding content. Information is being updated on the site and we'll have a few new announcements for you to share shortly so have those mouse fingers ready.

http://www.bringkyronhome.org/


2.  THE REVELATION?

This is the Moment

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?

I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971

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It's Terri's Fault; Not Skyline

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015

"... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply


It wasn't a Stranger

Desire Young - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko

BUMPED

BEHIND THE INVESTIGATIVE SCENES (Continued)


3.  THE IMPOSSIBLE TIMELINE

Terri Horman - June 5, 2010

Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Aug 9, 2010

Long before news of the alleged murder-for-hire plot and sexting affairs, it seems Terri Moulton Horman knew suspicions were settled on her, according to e-mails written by Horman and obtained first by KATU News.

“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, was reported to be vanished from Skyline School during a science fair. Investigators say Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron.

I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left.

<snipped>

“I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Kitty to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them ..."

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


4.  ACCOMPLICES?

Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill - August 11, 2010

Kyron Horman investigators ask public to help track white pickup Terri Horman drove
August 11, 2010

Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared.

Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard. Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair.

Underhill said investigators want to identify anybody "in or in immediate proximity to that truck."

"We're looking for additional witnesses," he added, standing in the Brooks Hill Historic Church across from the school in front of blown-up photos of the Horman truck staged at each location.

The appeal to the public comes as investigators continue to try to determine the whereabouts of Terri Moulton Horman and her friend DeDe Spicher during overlapping hours on the day Kyron disappeared.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html


Desiree Young - August 28, 2010

08-28-2010, 12:02 PM
BeanE

White Truck Transciption

Kaine Horman & Desiree Young 8/27 pt.2
http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html

-2:50

Reporter: Potentially one person in the truck... three people... the white truck, Terri's truck... can you talk...

Desiree: (interrupts) Kaine's truck (laughs)

<snipped>

Desiree: Well first of all, why would Kyron even be outside the school? Why would he even be near a truck with somebody else in it?

You know. I mean it's significant in a huge way to the case. If the timeline played out the way that it supposedly did? That contradicts that completely.

So I mean, other than that (shrugs), that's how significant it was to me.

Reporter: How authentic do you think that witness is? I mean how...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side) Very authentic.

Reporter: So it's a credible...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side and down) Yep.

<snipped>

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?112948-8-27-KGW-TV-Interview-with-Desiree-and-Kaine/page3

Transcript h/t - BeanE

THE APPOINTMENT

It appears that the teacher was not alone in her belief that Kyron had a doctor's appointment on June 4, 2010.  According to his mother ... Kurtis also had that understanding.  Then there is Desiree's May 29, 2015 revelation providing both the teacher and Kurtis affirmation.


The Teacher

Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Aug 9, 2010

<snipped>

“The teacher thought I said I was going to take Kyron with Kitty for a doctor’s appt.,” she wrote on June 5, 2010. “I said I was going to look at other exhibits - how do you mess that up? His coat and backpack were still at school. I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list. ...”

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


Kim Holm

Sources: Terri Horman vague on Kyron’s doctor appointment date
July 21, 2010

<snipped>

Kim Holm’s son, Kurtis, who Terri Horman photographed with his science project around the time she took a picture of Kyron that morning, said her son knew about the appointment too.

“And the teacher said, ‘I thought he left with his mom,’ because they thought they had a doctor appointment,” Holm said. “And then at lunchtime, Kurtis ate lunch with him every day, he wasn’t there at lunchtime. ....

At 1:21 that afternoon Terri Horman posted the science fair photos on her Facebook page.

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html

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Kyron's Mother

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015

"... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply

A RETRACTION?

Inquiring minds want to know why the Gina Zimmerman comments were deleted from the following article in a June 18, 2010 update.  Could it be that there was a retraction by Gina? Could it be that investigators requested the deletion not wanting the investigation to be compromised? The deletion was a topic of discussion on the SM forum.


Original Article

Authorities upgrade search for missing Portland boy to major crimes investigation
By Allan Brettman, The Oregonian
June 05, 2010, 9:37AM

<snipped>

Gina Zimmerman, president of the school PTA, dropped by the Skyline search scene Saturday morning with her 8-year-old daughter Madi, who has been a classmate of Kyron for three years.

“He’s not the type of child who would just go out of school and go searching or wandering around,” Zimmerman said. “He’s just a timid, sweet boy.”

Zimmerman said she was in contact with the father, Kaine Korman, and stepmother, Terri Korman, and detectives Friday night. “Everybody’s just worried and in shock that this could happen in our little school where everybody knows everybody.”

She said the K-8 school has about 300 students.

Zimmerman said she arrived at the school around 8:15 a.m. Friday, as most parents and students did, to attend the end-of-year science fair. Terri Korman took a photograph of Kyron in front of his project, Zimmerman said.

<snipped>

Zimmerman said everyone went into their classroom for the science fair and broke into parent-led groups of four or five. She wasn’t sure what group Kyron was in. but she said the last time she saw him was at 8:15, when the groups began going from class to class.

“Then you were supposed to stay with your group. I don’t know what group he was in.”

Zimmerman said the boy has no learning disabilities. “He’s a good kid who follows the rules,” she said.

“We’re really close to the family, “ she added, noting that Kyron has a 16-year-old brother and a younger sister. “We’ve been on the phone with them all night.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8388.msg1213302;topicseen#msg1213302

Hi everyone! Haven't posted in a long time but get over to read some! Miss y'all! Question...Last night on MSNBC(I think)there was a doc about missing Iowa newspaper boy Johnny Gosh. Been gone 30 yrs now and believed to have been trafficked. A man in prison came forward to say he was taken by traffickers and even helped abduct him for the elder pedo of the ring to sell. He called this pedo COLONEL. Now back to Kyron, way back we watched some very weird videos posted on YouTube about Kyron possibly given to s sex ring and wasn't one in the group called COLONEL??? Is my memory way off? I'm older, still somewhat sane, haha but known to be sooo wrong! Just wishing there was some connection, answer, something for this baby boy!!!

Hi melisb

I am not sure what videos you are referring to but ... I have read the speculation about Kyron possibly being handed over to a sex ring.

I adhere to a theory that the secreting of Kyron Horman was not necessarily about Terri wanting to harm her stepson ... only eliminating him from the picture.

Could it be that Dede's former child advocate boyfriend had connections to a safe haven network?

Could that the investigative dots have yet to be connected because Terri, Dede nor JW have no knowledge as to the location where Kyron was secreted?  In other words ... Kyron is alive and safe!!

Could it be that Dede and her former boyfriend have been afforded immunity in exchange for the truth ... in exchange for their testimony in an eventual trial ... pertaining to their participation in the happenings encompassing the secreting of Kyron?

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Desiree Young - November 15, 2010

On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

"It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron. ..."
http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247

THE KYRON HORMAN CASE - THE SECRETING OF KYRON?

Reading Between the Lines

1.  According to Kaine

October 25, 2010:  "I believe that Respondent has harmed or secreted Kyron.''
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html

October 25, 2010:  19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

June 3, 2011:  "In light of something not breaking, coming forward quickly, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint.  This could go on for two, three, four years, potentially without closure."
http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyron-1-year-anniversary-123042478.html

May 30, 2015:  "She has become a dead end as far as making progress,  Someone else was involved. There's someone we don't know about."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html

June 2, 2015:  "Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are."
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/

June 2, 2015:  "You know they've done a lot of due diligence in the searching around here and as the searches continue and nothing is found the probability goes up that he is still out there and he's with somebody else."
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/

June 3, 2015:  "I would call it a belief because to me hope is passive. Hope is, 'Gosh, I don't know what will happen, I sure hope it turns out well,' as opposed to, I believe he is alive. It's a much different statement."
http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Five-years-later-why-Kyron-Hormans-dad-believes-hes-alive-305768091.html

THE KYRON HORMAN CASE - THE SECRETING OF KYRON? (Continued)

Reading Between the Lines

2.  According to Desiree

June 29, 2010:  "I believe that he s stashed I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us [to him]."
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/

June 21, 2014:  “We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”
http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/

July 11, 2014:  "DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516

May 21, 2015:  "Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?  I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971

May 29, 2015:  " .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055

June 4, 2015: "It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko

June 4, 2015:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance

THE KYRON HORMAN CASE - THE SECRETING OF KYRON? (Continued)

Reading Between the Lines

3.  According to Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton

September 17, 2010:  When asked if people would be shocked to find out what they know, Staton took a long silence.  "I know I'm taking a long pause on that, I have to think through that answer. I think there are things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you, that you'll think about later on when it's over. We have a knowledge of things we don't want to know about ... of things we wish we didn't know."
http://www.kgw.com/news/Sheriff-No-evidence-Kyron-Horman-is-not-alive-103003704.html

THE KYRON HORMAN CASE - THE SECRETING OF KYRON? (Continued)

Reading Between the Lines

4.  According to Dede's Former Boyfriend

The Letter - August 18, 2010

Excerpts:

"I suspect that sometime after we broke-up on August 1st, 2009, DeDe reconnected with Terri and Terri found DeDe to be a good listener, provided sound feedback and possibly provided each other with emotional respite. This cultivated to gaining DeDe’s trust and support."

"Terri may have told DeDe some story that Kyron was in danger and that Kaine was a bad dad and husband and that she needed to find a safe place for Kyron for a few days while she was dealing with Kaine in some way that would produce a long term solution."

"If DeDe is indeed involved, she probably thought she was helping protect Kyron and that she was somehow doing an act of child advocacy as well as helping a friend get out of a bad and unsafe situation."

"I believe in my heart that Kyron is still alive and stashed at a safe house. The DeDe that I knew very well for 10 months would have no part of harm to a child or getting rid of abody, no way."

"I am a child advocate who has more volunteer time helping endangered and displaced Multnomah county children than any other man out there. I care more than anyone can realize and pray hard for Kyron’s safe return."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/dede_spichers_former_boyfriend.html


Internet Postings - August 2010

Excerpts:

"I have learned that she is waiting for the DA to offer her immunity to testify about what she knows and her involvement."

"I am convinced that Kyron is at a safe house somewhere far away.

"I am not giving anyone false hope by saying this, Kyron is alive and we will remember the day he is united with his family like the people of the sixties remember the day of the Kennedy assassination. I pray everyday without interruption for God to guide and direct the investigators to Kyron's location."

"I possess no inside information from investigators, rather I am reading the cards on the table from what I know of DeDe and the investigation and what has been reported in the media and internet. It takes a special kind of evil to kill an innocent child and I feel that at least DeDe would never do such a thing, rather cooperate with a good friend if the story she was told was plausable enough."

"DeDe presented to be a trusting person and just didnt hang out with "the wrong crowd" so to speak."

"How would a kidnapping scenario play out??? They would have a network of people taking Kyron out of state for unknown reasons, but a well thought out explanation for Kyron and the others involved."

"It was depriving Kane of his precious son that was the motivation here, not killing Kyron."

"I suspect that everyone involved knows know that they are in such huge trouble, facing multiple felonies and decades in prison, they are trying to save their tails and allowing LE to prove that they are involved."

Read more:
http://www.realitychatter.com/t2666-jw-name-removed-initials-only-please

The vids on YouTube were by some weird lady that went by "world_ _" something? They would use Google map street views with that persons speculations typed on the screen. It showed TH's confirmed route and music played the whole time. I do remember it showing a home where boys were supposedly kept. Anything ringing a bell? Our wonderful Monkey sleuthers knew who this wacky lady was that put these videos up. For some reason I remember it saying something about a "Dr. XXXX" or someone called "doctor" and I thought I remembered the video referencing a "Colonel
" ? I just don't know!  One minute I believe TH got rid of Ky to hurt his Dad. Then next minute I believe that no matter how Kyron left he was passed to people who wanted a child to use for themselves or trafficking. I just keep praying that Mom and Dad get confirmation on whether their baby is still with us or in Heaven.

Sooooooo sorry TamikosMom! I landed my plane right between your two posts! ::MonkeyWink::Have a good day and maybe you can help me figure out if I'm delusional or my memory is half right! ::MonkeyKiss::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I asked my hubby similar questions when daughter and eldest son offered to be present with us at the signing pertaining to a real estate transaction.  Hey ... maybe we are getting up there but ....

Anyways ... we took them up on their offer as a precaution.  It could be that putting the salt and pepper shakers in the fridge is a foreboding sign.

The Kyron Horman Case?  Considering the ongoing briefings that Kyron's parents have with investigators regarding case updates ...  my position is "If Kaine or Desiree say it; I believe it".  In other words ... when the official source is considered ... logic dictates that they are privy to the happenings behind the scenes within the investigation.

Also ... it makes perfect sense that after five years Kyron's parents would not be focused on Terri without an official foundation to derive from.  They would have taken a different path in the desperate quest for the answers they seek ... answers that will bring their precious son home.

Have a good day melisb.  I am looking after my seven month old granddaughter.  I think I may walk over to my neighbour's home with her when she wakes from her nap and show her off.  Later.

Janet


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


DA Don Rees - October 8, 2013

"The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation."

"Kaine Horman should be prohibited from answering any questions about law enforcement methods used to investigate his son's disappearance, physical evidence gathered, witness statements or questions asked by law enforcement, or whether he has testified before a grand jury."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/174592563/Horman-Divorce-Court-Docs

THE INVESTIGATIVE SOURCE - THE OFFICIAL SOURCE

Kyron's Parents - In Their Own Words

Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


Desiree Young - November 15, 2010

On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

"It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron. ..."
http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247


Desiree Young - February 22, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  Terri put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."

Video:
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop


Desiree Young - March 5, 2011

"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."

https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578/


Kaine Horman - June 3, 2011

"In light of something not breaking, coming forward quickly, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. This could go on for two, three, four years, potentially without closure."

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyron-1-year-anniversary-123042478.html


Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012

Video Excerpt (1:40)

In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have mounting evidence against the boy's stepmother.  "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/


Kaine Horman - July, 2013

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree Young - July 30, 2013

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron. For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.”

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree Young - September 1, 2013

"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)."

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html


Desiree Young - September 17, 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but We have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance. ...."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


Kaine Horman - February 20, 2014

"There is nothing more important to me than keeping my daughter safe and bringing him [Kyron] home.  We have work to do. A lot of it is happening outside the courtroom, so we have a lot of things that need to get done. We are continuing to work with investigators and we're continuing to drive closure to his [Kyron's] case."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html


Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first.  The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015

"Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


Desiree Young - June 3, 2015

"It is Terri. We also know she was working with someone, we still don't know if it was just that someone else or if there were other people, but we definitely know it was Terri. Law enforcement is confident in that, even though they haven't named her a person of interest in that case, it's strategic, it's Terri.  We just need to figure out what happened."

"I'm not going to accept the silence. I'm going to fight against it and we're going to get answers because I refuse for this to go on.  I have hope, I have dreams all the time of Kyron coming home and they are so realistic and I want that to be our moment."

http://www.ktvl.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/ktvl_vid_16304.shtml


Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

Video Excerpt

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearanc


Desiree Young - June 5, 2015

“She’s (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality – she’s definitely a person of interest.”

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html


Desiree Young - July 20, 2015

"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater