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I am posting what I saved from RWV #123 Natalee Holloway Chat
This includes Melody's posts.

i saw him that saturday that's why, that was the 29th, but it's the 30th right? ...
i was just sitting around and remembered that  and i asked which casino because where
i saw him is very close to a casino, but the Seaport casino.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:17 AM
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i know for sure i saw him that saturday, i can swear upon it, i had a party to go to on
28th and next day i went to the movies where i saw him. i'm really sorry , i don't remember
the time, but it was before 12am for sure.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:24 AM
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but Dan i SWEAR i saw him , he was standing alone leaning against a pilar.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:26 AM
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man i'm confused :( i saw him the next day, the day after the party, and i know it was
the 28th (the party)

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:27 AM
_____________________________________________________________wait no... thank goodness for being as big of a girly girl as i am :) ... i wrote down
the party and the movies because the movies was the first time me and my curent boyfriend
kissed ... so i know for sure now.. i saw him the 29th! and before 12am. ... sorry guys,
don't get mad at me for being wrong ta first...

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:33 AM
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sorry :S ... it was on a saturday.. so you guys tell me which date then

and rock pier??? where's that?? is that the one next to the phoenix hotel??

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:38 AM
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Dan - i know my seeing him has no impact whatsoever. it was the first time i haven;t said
hi to him at all because of his face _expression and me being with someone else.... so i;m
sorry for not helping with any facts. but i asked for personal reasons  ... and no i
really don't have feelings for him anymore...

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 02:51 AM
_____________________________________________________________nonono annie... i didn't see him at the casino ... you see the casino is very VERY near,
like turning the corner on that shop and crossing the road... i saw him standing against a
pillar alone... but i didn't say hi to him since when he saw me his face turned into a
''hurt'' face, i thought it might be me walking with my now-boyfriend ... but that happened
Downtown... near carlos and charlies? yes... 3 min away by car maybe? i've walked it in
about 10 ??

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 03:00 AM
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annie- he was very close to the casino, so a turn and a crossing-over-the-street away.
and yes i know him personally.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 03:11 AM
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jane - i know it was before 12am... i really have no idea around what time exactly

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 03:21 AM
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(she was asked if it was Sat or Sun she saw him)
AG - saturday night, which is why i said that it probably isn't another helpful fact
for you guys. but i was just asking for my own sake ;)

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 03:23 AM
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calista - they aproached me a few times, but when msnbc approached me i eventually agreed
because they said they'll be talking good about joran (does anyone know if the still do
that?) and no the police hasn't talked to me.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 03:25 AM
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(since she knew him well, was asked if he could do what was being said)
jane - the only thing i could ever imagine being possible, for him being involved, is
definitly him panicking by some accident.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 03:41 AM
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(was talking about her saying someone stayed over at JVDS on night NH went missing)
i noticed that already Dan, you posted it the other day ...

i don't mind at all ... but as long as it's clear that that's all i know, that he slept
over and that he was called to come so that joran can tell him the girl is missing, and
that joran told him they didn't sleep together... and trust me joran won't lie to him.

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 04:06 AM
_____________________________________________________________I understand just wanted to be sure that you believe it was SUnday night when he slept
over and then, even if he didn't say - in a small place he would likely know Joran's
comings and goings assuming it is that night. Maybe that is why the police asked him so
many questions ...

Posted by: Dan | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 04:08 AM
_____________________________________________________________Jane, when I spoke on the phone with Mel she told me of someone who crashed at Joran's
that night who is his best friend. Also that the next day Joran called him from the raquet
club when he first learned of Natalee's disappearance.

Posted by: Dan | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 04:11 AM
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But Melody, maybe that would be possible - MAYBE - But how did they have time to come up
with the thought it would be bad to say he just left her alone to walk? The first time
they even supposedly knew she never made it to her hotel was the next night when natalees
parents showed up at Jorans house wanting to ask him what happened - nobody knew anythiong
until then - there was no news no nothing....so how would joran and deepak and satish have
time to come up with that new story on the spot like that?? that story was made up way
before beth holloway ever got to his house - they had it ready

Posted by: calista | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 04:20 AM
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whoo ... i'm really tired now...

but lastly - the friend slept over at his house but wasn't out with him, therefor he has
no alibi as to his where abouts before he got home.

and i don't know, his friend told me he called him the next day all shocked, that he had
something ot tell him, and he told him that the girl went missing. ... that must be before
natalee's parents came to him.. and being scared and preparing a story stand logically
with pretending to not know she was missing when approached by the parents, makes your
story more believable right?

Posted by: Melody | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 04:26 AM
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Dan,
So let me get this straight...Melody is saying that the first JvdS and his (sleepover)
friend heard about NH's disappearance was the afternoon of the 30th (at least 8-10 hours
before BHT showed up at the vdS doorstep)? Who told them at that time?

Then, is that how they had their "stories" prepared when BHT showed up? They'd had the
prior warning (that afternoon)?...(then acted surprised by the news when BHT came to their
house?)

Something doesn't smell right...

And another thing...Who WAS/IS this guy who slept over?

Posted by: cocomo | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 05:02 AM
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Snuff film. They killed her during sex. Max Arends, Lorenzo, Kalpoe 1 and Joran were
involved, but Joran left. He could not handle it. Holiday Inn

Lorenzo is Jaime. Max is in Florida according to Scubajap with his dad. Dilmo send him to
Florida because it was heating up? Watch Scubajap. May get you in a trap.

Posted by: angelaberdine | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 05:11 AM
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Lorenzo is Jaime

NO

Posted by: (((AG))) | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 05:22 AM
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Max is in Florida according to Scubajap with his dad

There is Max Arends (this kid in FL) and then there is Max Arenz (may be Arentz). Two
different people.

Posted by: (((AG))) | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 05:25 AM
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No, they are not two different people. Same one. Dilma's. Works with Scubajap at Bon Dia,
best friend of Jaime (a/k/a Lorenzo).

Posted by: angelaberdine | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 05:31 AM
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Gad's he looks like he's 12 from the picture I saw of Max Arends.

He's supposed to be the porno king? Something isn't right with this picture.

Too many people have said that Jaime and Lorenzo are two different people.

Posted by: (((AG))) | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 05:37 AM
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Dilma works at Bon Dia with Scubajap. Newspaper owned by the same frizzy head that owns
Aruba Today.

OK. I am outta here because I got this information from some Mountain Brook people. You
know those lying, drunks we talk about on here.

I am outta here, going back to Mountain Brook tomorrow to visit with some more liars, my
kids and grandkids.

Posted by: angelaberdine | Sunday, August 14, 2005 at 05:45 AM

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