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Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 26, 2007, 10:01:53 PM
Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/candleman2justice2007.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 26, 2007, 11:21:57 PM
BOO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:26:42 PM
Posted by Leslie in the previous thread:

I believe:
The delivery truck was from Dana Furniture and delivered a bookcase to the VDS's.
Joran did not go to school on Monday. If he did tell a different story to his classmates about Natalee, it could have occured afer the HI story told to the Alabama posse. Joran is known to change his stories and is a braggart.
Simian could barely write French. "I don't know what you are saying. What, I am a woman? Life is not what you think." Ugh!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:27:48 PM
Everybody must be watching Rob's video, LOL  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2007, 11:27:50 PM
by the way Mrs Red- I don't post the link because hits on my site are a bad thing... means we (Carpe, Grande and myself) are covering something terrible and the hits happen.. a really good day is less than a hundred hits... which has not happened yet...unfortunately..

hope you understand...

Klaas- I just used Windows Movie Maker- cause that's what I have.. Carpe gave me a few pointers tho--- he's Da Man!!!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 26, 2007, 11:28:36 PM
None ~ you're too funny ~ were you just hangin' out waiting for us?  :lol:

2NJ
~ thanks so much for the link. :D  

Leslie ~ can we bring your post over about the delivery truck?  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2007, 11:30:29 PM
by the way... I have a really good one in mind... I figger'd I would just try it and see what happens... but I have one for the Postah Child coming next!!!

his ass is Guido's... but it will be mine for a minute or two... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 26, 2007, 11:30:32 PM
Klaas ~ you know, this is why I restrain from posting...you'd already brought Leslie's post over and I was still typing!  :oops:  :?  :shock:
Always a day late and several dollars short.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 26, 2007, 11:31:19 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
BOO



 :shock:  Thread 666?  Yikes sistah..  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Klaas ~ you know, this is why I restrain from posting...you'd already brought Leslie's post over and I was still typing!  :oops:  :?  :shock:
Always a day late and several dollars short.....


guess we're the 'minions'.... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:33:15 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
BOO



 :shock:  Thread 666?  Yikes sistah..  :shock:


very perceptive, there, Angie....more than I...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:33:23 PM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Klaas ~ you know, this is why I restrain from posting...you'd already brought Leslie's post over and I was still typing!  :oops:  :?  :shock:
Always a day late and several dollars short.....

I'm sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself.  I didn't want Leslie's post lost at the end of the thread.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 26, 2007, 11:33:48 PM
Dana's Woonidee
Address: Fergusonstraat 21A
Phone: (297) 583-0912 / (297) 585-0893
Fax: (297) 583-0793  
Categories: Furniture dealers  


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 26, 2007, 11:33:52 PM
Rob. the video is really good... and I just asked b/c y'all were all discussing it... so I thought I would be bold.


TCU Mom... i tried to answer you and the forum is loading slow for me and I missed the request until after NJ answered you... sorry....!!!

that's it...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 26, 2007, 11:34:00 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"

guess we're the 'minions'.... :lol:

At first I thought you wrote *onions*.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I think of myself as 'filler' around here .....  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:34:43 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Klaas ~ you know, this is why I restrain from posting...you'd already brought Leslie's post over and I was still typing!  :oops:  :?  :shock:
Always a day late and several dollars short.....

I'm sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself.  I didn't want Leslie's post lost at the end of the thread.


It was a good post...glad you couldn't help yourself, Klaas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 26, 2007, 11:34:50 PM
Well, I think I may have to lie down.  The video is good, except for all the times I had to wear my muffs.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:35:29 PM
Quote from: "Leslie"
Dana's Woonidee
Address: Fergusonstraat 21A
Phone: (297) 583-0912 / (297) 585-0893
Fax: (297) 583-0793  
Categories: Furniture dealers  


Yep.  I'm trying to remember who was trying to tell us it was a pet food place.  Then they said they have pet food and furniture.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 26, 2007, 11:36:19 PM
I would have been the first here, but ROBOTS locked me in the closet.

 :x

 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 26, 2007, 11:36:25 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
BOO



 :shock:  Thread 666?  Yikes sistah..  :shock:


very perceptive, there, Angie....more than I...


I am confused.. where is this?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 26, 2007, 11:36:43 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I think I may have to lie down.  The video is good, except for all the times I had to wear my muffs.   :wink:

Let me get a cool cloth for your head ~ take to the bed like my gramma used to say.  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 26, 2007, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"

guess we're the 'minions'.... :lol:

At first I thought you wrote *onions*.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I think of myself as 'filler' around here .....  :lol:  :lol:


What is a filler?  You are a monkey and that's important.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 26, 2007, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Leslie"
Dana's Woonidee
Address: Fergusonstraat 21A
Phone: (297) 583-0912 / (297) 585-0893
Fax: (297) 583-0793  
Categories: Furniture dealers  


Yep.  I'm trying to remember who was trying to tell us it was a pet food place.  Then they said they have pet food and furniture.


bondia?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:38:33 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
BOO



 :shock:  Thread 666?  Yikes sistah..  :shock:


very perceptive, there, Angie....more than I...


I am confused.. where is this?


Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007

Top of first page of this thread..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:38:36 PM
This was posted on RWV in regards to that same picture/truck:

Can anyone from Aruba confirm/refute?

Hey folks. Just checking in again after being out of town for a few days at a family wedding. After taking a good close look at the truck in Dan's picture, I have to disagree that it's a furniture truck. On very close inspection you can see that it really appears to be a small refrigerated delivery truck. (Look at the upper door hinges, and the thickness of the doors) Considering the the VDS consider themselves to be "upper-crust" it would stand to reason they would want to have food stuffs delivered from their native Netherlands. The company catering to those needs in Aruba is DANA INTERNATIONAL, which goes under the name of DANA'S WOONIDEE NV. This is an excerpt from their web site: "One of the most specialized export companies in Europe who export food products all over the world. Dana also has import companies in the caribbean markets, Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire."

Two of the most popular products they send over to Aruba are canned and frozen dog food, and I do believe the Van der Snots have a couple of those not so wee beasties.

Here's the web site: http://www.euronet.nl/~jerriane/

This seems much more likely than their selling off furniture, especially considering the size and type of truck...too small. Besides, no way the VDS would risk that kind of embarassment with all the press and PI's snooping around.



Posted by: TexasMom | Monday, August 01, 2005 at 06:31 PM


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 26, 2007, 11:38:38 PM
Rob.. you really have done an awesome job.   :D

 and to BhamMom..Arthur Kane.. Kiss my ass..   8)

 Elaine.. I see you have a sense of humor..
Elaine S Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:07 pm


I have to admit that this is funny. I'm not sure who's funnier ~ Charlie or Angie!! lol  


 me and my Chuck are a riot are we not?   :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 26, 2007, 11:38:58 PM
Rob,

You don't have your website in your profile?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 26, 2007, 11:39:56 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"

guess we're the 'minions'.... :lol:

At first I thought you wrote *onions*.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I think of myself as 'filler' around here .....  :lol:  :lol:


What is a filler?  You are a monkey and that's important.

Oh, I'm just being goofy ~ at my middle school, anyone who teaches art, music, drama....are the fillers.  I teach art but don't subscribe to Anita's clothing style.  :shock:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 26, 2007, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
BOO



 :shock:  Thread 666?  Yikes sistah..  :shock:


very perceptive, there, Angie....more than I...


I am confused.. where is this?


Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007

Top of first page of this thread..


 :shock: well everybody talk fast.. we can't stay here!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:40:54 PM
DANA'S FURNITURE & MORE / JEANNE INFASHION  
 
Business address SCHOTLANDSTRAAT 43, UNIT 3 & 3-A, ORANJESTAD WEST  
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY  
Name of the company  DANA'S WOONIDEE N.V.  
Statutory seat  ARUBA  
Date of incorporation  10 OCTOBER 1996  
Last amendment in the articles  9 NOVEMBER 2001  
     
Authorized capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 150,000.00  
Issued capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 149,800.00  
Paid up capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 149,800.00  
Fiscal year  01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER  
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:  
 
VONKERT, JAN ARNOLDUS;  
Residing in  SABANA BASORA 48, SAVANETA, ARUBA  
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, ZWOLLE on 30 APRIL 1941  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  PROXY  
Effective  30 JUNE 1998  
Authority  FULL  
   
VONKERT-VAN DER DONK, ADRIANA ROSA MARIA;  
Residing in  SABANA BASORA 48, SAVANETA, ARUBA  
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, ROSMALEN on 8 SEPTEMBER 1951  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  PROXY  
Effective  30 JUNE 1998  
Authority  FULL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Shell on July 26, 2007, 11:40:54 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I think I may have to lie down.  The video is good, except for all the times I had to wear my muffs.   :wink:


I keep getting lost in the threads when I post, blaming it on one of Angies pills :oops: , anyhow, one of your posts from Simian made me think of this. I can't quote which one, I might get lost again. Anyhow...what if there was a rave type party, and Lorenzo was there along with some of the others, but the party was at the Sloots and not at Lorenzos?

Back to lurking before I get lost again.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2007, 11:42:04 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Rob. the video is really good... and I just asked b/c y'all were all discussing it... so I thought I would be bold.


TCU Mom... i tried to answer you and the forum is loading slow for me and I missed the request until after NJ answered you... sorry....!!!

that's it...


Thank you Mrs Red.. I hope you'll show it to the Big Monk...LOL...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 26, 2007, 11:42:06 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
BOO



 :shock:  Thread 666?  Yikes sistah..  :shock:


very perceptive, there, Angie....more than I...


I am confused.. where is this?


Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007

Top of first page of this thread..


I know I need to go lie down now for sure.  Is anyone going to dance with me or not?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:42:58 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Leslie"
Dana's Woonidee
Address: Fergusonstraat 21A
Phone: (297) 583-0912 / (297) 585-0893
Fax: (297) 583-0793  
Categories: Furniture dealers  


Yep.  I'm trying to remember who was trying to tell us it was a pet food place.  Then they said they have pet food and furniture.


bondia?

 :lol:  good guess!  Not sure if it was her though. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:43:16 PM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"

guess we're the 'minions'.... :lol:

At first I thought you wrote *onions*.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I think of myself as 'filler' around here .....  :lol:  :lol:


What is a filler?  You are a monkey and that's important.

Oh, I'm just being goofy ~ at my middle school, anyone who teaches art, music, drama....are the fillers.  I teach art but don't subscribe to Anita's clothing style.  :shock:  :shock:


ah, no depth perception, huh?  Or is that shadows...or is that...never mind... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 26, 2007, 11:43:26 PM
Quote from: "Shell"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I think I may have to lie down.  The video is good, except for all the times I had to wear my muffs.   :wink:


I keep getting lost in the threads when I post, blaming it on one of Angies pills :oops: , anyhow, one of your posts from Simian made me think of this. I can't quote which one, I might get lost again. Anyhow...what if there was a rave type party, and Lorenzo was there along with some of the others, but the party was at the Sloots and not at Lorenzos?

Back to lurking before I get lost again.


So could that be why the neighbor was complaining about the noise?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 26, 2007, 11:45:05 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
BOO



 :shock:  Thread 666?  Yikes sistah..  :shock:


very perceptive, there, Angie....more than I...


 Hey Mom.. you have no idea how 666 is a lucky number to some. how many peeps play this on lottery every day.. day in and day out.. lol
 <you and Sharon have a blast at the wedding. I think its wonderful >


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2007, 11:45:25 PM
Hey Angie..know who can kiss my ass?

ROBERT MESTER YOU MIGHT BE NEXT BRO!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 26, 2007, 11:45:39 PM
I need help...how do I do a search on an archive from the FP?  An easy way please. Such as if I wanted to see who was talking about a certain topic, say the videos on June 30.  How do I just go and look up the video posts?   I know the answer is going to make look as dumb as I feel asking.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 26, 2007, 11:45:44 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Rob. the video is really good... and I just asked b/c y'all were all discussing it... so I thought I would be bold.


TCU Mom... i tried to answer you and the forum is loading slow for me and I missed the request until after NJ answered you... sorry....!!!

that's it...


Thank you Mrs Red.. I hope you'll show it to the Big Monk...LOL...


He thought it was good also... I made him come and watch with me...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2007, 11:48:21 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"

He thought it was good also... I made him come and watch with me...


AWESOME POSSUM!!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  
dats a New England thang!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:48:43 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
BOO



 :shock:  Thread 666?  Yikes sistah..  :shock:


very perceptive, there, Angie....more than I...


 Hey Mom.. you have no idea how 666 is a lucky number to some. how many peeps play this on lottery every day.. day in and day out.. lol
 <you and Sharon have a blast at the wedding. I think its wonderful >


I believe about the lottery...will be great to meet Sharon and have a good time....it's a small world afterall...(she and I did grad from the same college...knew that...just didn't know our paths would cross at a celebration..who knew?)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BlueKYGirl on July 26, 2007, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Shell"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I think I may have to lie down.  The video is good, except for all the times I had to wear my muffs.   :wink:


I keep getting lost in the threads when I post, blaming it on one of Angies pills :oops: , anyhow, one of your posts from Simian made me think of this. I can't quote which one, I might get lost again. Anyhow...what if there was a rave type party, and Lorenzo was there along with some of the others, but the party was at the Sloots and not at Lorenzos?

Back to lurking before I get lost again.


So could that be why the neighbor was complaining about the noise?


I'm back...I thought Simian said something (regarding Paulus) about him picking Joran up from wherever he was, and attending the party with him. I just looked at my file and couldn't find it. I do think there are nurmerous references to Lorenzo being at home, and I know there's one about Paulus and Joran being there, too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 26, 2007, 11:49:22 PM
The bookcase delivery info comes from that great friend and expert on all things van der Sloot - Medleyrelay.   She opined that Paul needed more shelf space as he was "working from home".   Up here in Canada, we don't refrigerate our canned or bagged dog food.  Do you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I need help...how do I do a search on an archive from the FP?  An easy way please. Such as if I wanted to see who was talking about a certain topic, say the videos on June 30.  How do I just go and look up the video posts?   I know the answer is going to make look as dumb as I feel asking.  :roll:

Lala's - so you don't feel so bad, I don't know how others are looking them up because the archives on the front page only go back to August 2006.

I can try and find something for you, I have other ways of looking that you guys don't have.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I need help...how do I do a search on an archive from the FP?  An easy way please. Such as if I wanted to see who was talking about a certain topic, say the videos on June 30.  How do I just go and look up the video posts?   I know the answer is going to make look as dumb as I feel asking.  :roll:


have you been drinking that wine of bacchus???  It doesn't work that way for us...maybe Klaasend... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 26, 2007, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: "Leslie"
The bookcase delivery info comes from that great friend and expert on all things van der Sloot - Medleyrelay.   She opined that Paul needed more shelf space as he was "working from home".   Up here in Canada, we don't refrigerate our canned or bagged dog food.  Do you?


Nope


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:52:55 PM
Been looking up using the Natalee Holloway link on the list....but then have to hit previous or next a million times to get to the timeframe I want to view.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Shell on July 26, 2007, 11:53:02 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Shell"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I think I may have to lie down.  The video is good, except for all the times I had to wear my muffs.   :wink:


I keep getting lost in the threads when I post, blaming it on one of Angies pills :oops: , anyhow, one of your posts from Simian made me think of this. I can't quote which one, I might get lost again. Anyhow...what if there was a rave type party, and Lorenzo was there along with some of the others, but the party was at the Sloots and not at Lorenzos?

Back to lurking before I get lost again.


So could that be why the neighbor was complaining about the noise?


I don't know how this scenario fits in with the timeline etc. or if the neighbor complaining was fact or rumor.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2007, 11:53:10 PM
you guys just don't understand....

Paulus has a pitbull and chicken ranch ovah at Montanja 19... like MVick..

he gotta keep em fed...roflamo!!!!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 26, 2007, 11:55:58 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Hey Angie..know who can kiss my ass?

ROBERT MESTER YOU MIGHT BE NEXT BRO!!!



 :lol:  :lol:    8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 26, 2007, 11:56:40 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I need help...how do I do a search on an archive from the FP?  An easy way please. Such as if I wanted to see who was talking about a certain topic, say the videos on June 30.  How do I just go and look up the video posts?   I know the answer is going to make look as dumb as I feel asking.  :roll:

Lala's - so you don't feel so bad, I don't know how others are looking them up because the archives on the front page only go back to August 2006.

I can try and find something for you, I have other ways of looking that you guys don't have.


2005 is in there by topic...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BlueKYGirl on July 26, 2007, 11:58:43 PM
I do think they were at the VDS home at some point (maybe earlier...like after leaving C&Cs). But something Simian said implied that Paulus picked Joran up from wherever and then stayed for the party. Looking frantically for it...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 26, 2007, 11:59:20 PM
The neighbour who complained about the noise was at the VDS's and it happened when Joran and Deepak arrived back at Montanja 19, opened the car door and had the music blaring,  while the posse and Paul were headed back after Paul took them on a wild goose chase downtown.  This was 3 ish Tuesday morning.  Joran was raised right, wasn't he?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 26, 2007, 11:59:34 PM
If you go to the Old threads

put in Simian or whomever you are searching

go to the last/earliest posts

you should see some reference to something like 1192 or another number that is the FP archived numbers.

That is where I am right now, seems 1191 is not available as far as I can see and that is where Simian, Shango was posting.

I will keep looking, it is interesting to read some of the responses to S & S posts.

OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 12:00:16 AM
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/17/breaking-news-4th-person-arrested-in-natalee-holloway-case/#comments

This link will bring you, obviously, to the 17th of June comments for one FP post...if you hit "previous' (I think), it will bring you to the next date...somehow it works the opposite of what one would expect.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I need help...how do I do a search on an archive from the FP?  An easy way please. Such as if I wanted to see who was talking about a certain topic, say the videos on June 30.  How do I just go and look up the video posts?   I know the answer is going to make look as dumb as I feel asking.  :roll:


have you been drinking that wine of bacchus???  It doesn't work that way for us...maybe Klaasend... :lol:


Oh I know how to get past the 2006 number what I have trouble with is finding just one certain word or phrase among the comments.  That is what I am talking about.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BlueKYGirl on July 27, 2007, 12:01:56 AM
Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 11:23 pm
Who took the boy to the party? Who took him home? Therein lies the third act. Look up the Simian’s posts from days ago.

I took this to mean Paulus.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 12:02:18 AM
Hello?

I would like to see Rob's website. But this new computer doesn't have all my favorites sites in it.

TIA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 12:03:14 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/17/breaking-news-4th-person-arrested-in-natalee-holloway-case/#comments

This link will bring you, obviously, to the 17th of June comments for one FP post...if you hit "previous' (I think), it will bring you to the next date...somehow it works the opposite of what one would expect.


Then go up to your browser menu, select Edit, then Find...type in the text you are looking for and then Find Nest.....I use this all the time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 27, 2007, 12:04:07 AM
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1192#comments

go there and you can read some FP posts.

then put in 1191 etc.

you might find what you are looking for.
OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 12:04:22 AM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Hello?

I would like to see Rob's website. But this new computer doesn't have all my favorites sites in it.

TIA


if you go to page 49, Klaas posted it...

i think it's zoltan's zion


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/17/breaking-news-4th-person-arrested-in-natalee-holloway-case/#comments

This link will bring you, obviously, to the 17th of June comments for one FP post...if you hit "previous' (I think), it will bring you to the next date...somehow it works the opposite of what one would expect.


Then go up to your browser menu, select Edit, then Find...type in the text you are looking for and then Find Next.....I use this all the time.


Edited to say Find Next, Lala's


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 12:05:09 AM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Hello?

I would like to see Rob's website. But this new computer doesn't have all my favorites sites in it.

TIA


 Hi there ~!!

here is the link  

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 27, 2007, 12:06:03 AM
Quote from: "Leslie"
The neighbour who complained about the noise was at the VDS's and it happened when Joran and Deepak arrived back at Montanja 19, opened the car door and had the music blaring,  while the posse and Paul were headed back after Paul took them on a wild goose chase downtown.  This was 3 ish Tuesday morning.  Joran was raised right, wasn't he?


I believe that was Joran's statement.  He changed from not going to his house to going to his house (Sunday/Monday) and I believe he did that because the neighbor heard the noise and saw the car the first night. I believe the added info on Tues. was to try and say the neighbor was confused about the Mon statement.  I think the noise was Sunday/Mon. IMO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:07:02 AM
Just a note here for those interested.  When a very nice monkey told me how to get to the old archives from June 2005 and I sat for hours reading them Shango began to make more sense.  What we have is only Shango's comments.  Anyone reading them will know there is a conversation going on between Shango and other posters.  When you can read it all in context it helps.  That is when I began my Shango obsession, after reading the posts that go along with Shango's posts.  Just a little FYI.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 12:08:29 AM
Gender of Dirty Hand?
DirtyHand is the key...He walks in many circles
DirtyHand has walked through the maze...He knows of the forbidden fruit
DirtyHand does not play with the lions...but he has entered the maze


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:08:53 AM
WHERE ARE ARUBA MAPS ?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:08:57 AM
But what is the secret to avoid having to read all the comments?  How do I search for just one word in the comments sections of the posts?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 12:08:57 AM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Hello?

I would like to see Rob's website. But this new computer doesn't have all my favorites sites in it.

TIA


http://www.zoltanzion.blogspot.com/

here you go, sleddogs...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 12:10:00 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Hello?

I would like to see Rob's website. But this new computer doesn't have all my favorites sites in it.

TIA


if you go to page 49, Klaas posted it...

i think it's zoltan's zion



Thanks mrs. red

P.S. There is a place in your profile to put your websites and us dummy monkeys only have to click on your profile and click on your website.  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 12:11:08 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
But what is the secret to avoid having to read all the comments?  How do I search for just one word in the comments sections of the posts?
Quote


Go to the comments section, then go to the menu bar and select Edit...a box will pop up where you type the work, then select Find Next....it will take you to all the times that word or phrase comes up on that section.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 12:11:57 AM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
I would have been the first here, but ROBOTS locked me in the closet.

 :x

 :lol:


 :lol:

just because im not typing doesnt mean im not LURKING  :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 12:12:04 AM
Don't ask me how my response to Lala's ended up a quote...that I can't answer.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 12:12:47 AM
Lala'sMom wrote:
But what is the secret to avoid having to read all the comments? How do I search for just one word in the comments sections of the posts?

What is the word?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BlueKYGirl on July 27, 2007, 12:14:15 AM
I'm exhausted...goodnight!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 12:14:44 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Leslie in the previous thread:

I believe:
The delivery truck was from Dana Furniture and delivered a bookcase to the VDS's.
Joran did not go to school on Monday. If he did tell a different story to his classmates about Natalee, it could have occured afer the HI story told to the Alabama posse. Joran is known to change his stories and is a braggart.
Simian could barely write French. "I don't know what you are saying. What, I am a woman? Life is not what you think." Ugh!


John Joseph Wardlaw = Teacher
Witness Statement
June 30, 2005


I can tell you with certainty that Joran was in school on May 30, 2005.  On that day he had helped me with moving some school cabinets and folders, because the school is busy with moving to a new building.  This may have been done in his free hours, I am not certain of this.  Also I remember that he had become sick on two days, and he went towards the medical center, which we have at school.  This was on Monday, May 30, 2005 and Tuesday, May 31, 2005 this happened.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 12:16:46 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
But what is the secret to avoid having to read all the comments?  How do I search for just one word in the comments sections of the posts?

Hit Ctrl F and put the word you are looking for.  Keep hitting find and it will look for the word each time through out the post.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 12:17:00 AM
Rob,

Wow, nice video!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:17:02 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
WHERE ARE ARUBA MAPS ?


Buckshot - some maps and photos here.  I've got a million Aruba maps but it will take a while to find.  What in particular are you looking for?

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=255


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 12:17:29 AM
Quote from: "BlueKYGirl"
I'm exhausted...goodnight!  :)

Goodnight BKG.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:17:51 AM
WHERE ARE THE ARUBA MAPS ON SM SITE. CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THEM TONIGHT.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:17:56 AM
Quote from: "Leslie"
Lala'sMom wrote:
But what is the secret to avoid having to read all the comments? How do I search for just one word in the comments sections of the posts?

What is the word?


I can't tell you the word.   It's a secret.  :lol:  :lol:  Actually there isn't a word.  I was just using that as an example. Sorry if I confused.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 12:18:14 AM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Leslie in the previous thread:

I believe:
The delivery truck was from Dana Furniture and delivered a bookcase to the VDS's.
Joran did not go to school on Monday. If he did tell a different story to his classmates about Natalee, it could have occured afer the HI story told to the Alabama posse. Joran is known to change his stories and is a braggart.
Simian could barely write French. "I don't know what you are saying. What, I am a woman? Life is not what you think." Ugh!


John Joseph Wardlaw = Teacher
Witness Statement
June 30, 2005


I can tell you with certainty that Joran was in school on May 30, 2005.  On that day he had helped me with moving some school cabinets and folders, because the school is busy with moving to a new building.  This may have been done in his free hours, I am not certain of this.  Also I remember that he had become sick on two days, and he went towards the medical center, which we have at school.  This was on Monday, May 30, 2005 and Tuesday, May 31, 2005 this happened.



hhmmmmmm

i saw criss angel make an elephant disappear once...


now, one of two things

the elephant was either there or it wasnt there...

joran was either there or he wasnt there......hmmmmmmmm


i figured out how he does all the tricks but this was has been causing me problems  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 12:18:23 AM
Moving cabinets and aceing an exam all on the same day!  This doesn't jibe with Paul stating that he insisted Joran go to school on Tuesday because he had been absent the day before.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:18:50 AM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Leslie in the previous thread:

I believe:
The delivery truck was from Dana Furniture and delivered a bookcase to the VDS's.
Joran did not go to school on Monday. If he did tell a different story to his classmates about Natalee, it could have occured afer the HI story told to the Alabama posse. Joran is known to change his stories and is a braggart.
Simian could barely write French. "I don't know what you are saying. What, I am a woman? Life is not what you think." Ugh!


John Joseph Wardlaw = Teacher
Witness Statement
June 30, 2005


I can tell you with certainty that Joran was in school on May 30, 2005.  On that day he had helped me with moving some school cabinets and folders, because the school is busy with moving to a new building.  This may have been done in his free hours, I am not certain of this.  Also I remember that he had become sick on two days, and he went towards the medical center, which we have at school.  This was on Monday, May 30, 2005 and Tuesday, May 31, 2005 this happened.


I'm not sure I believe Wardlaw.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 12:19:32 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
WHERE ARE THE ARUBA MAPS ON SM SITE. CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THEM TONIGHT.


in the MAP SECTION



 :oops:  8)  :twisted:








 :smt033  :smt005  :smt030  :smt016  :smt033  :smt033  :smt033


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:19:59 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
WHERE ARE ARUBA MAPS ?


Buckshot - some maps and photos here.  I've got a million Aruba maps but it will take a while to find.  What in particular are you looking for?

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=255


BUCKSHOT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 12:20:11 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
WHERE ARE THE ARUBA MAPS ON SM SITE. CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THEM TONIGHT.


go back to page 4, Klaas posted the link.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 12:20:56 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Leslie in the previous thread:

I believe:
The delivery truck was from Dana Furniture and delivered a bookcase to the VDS's.
Joran did not go to school on Monday. If he did tell a different story to his classmates about Natalee, it could have occured afer the HI story told to the Alabama posse. Joran is known to change his stories and is a braggart.
Simian could barely write French. "I don't know what you are saying. What, I am a woman? Life is not what you think." Ugh!


John Joseph Wardlaw = Teacher
Witness Statement
June 30, 2005


I can tell you with certainty that Joran was in school on May 30, 2005.  On that day he had helped me with moving some school cabinets and folders, because the school is busy with moving to a new building.  This may have been done in his free hours, I am not certain of this.  Also I remember that he had become sick on two days, and he went towards the medical center, which we have at school.  This was on Monday, May 30, 2005 and Tuesday, May 31, 2005 this happened.


I'm not sure I believe Wardlaw.



BINGO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 12:20:56 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
WHERE ARE THE ARUBA MAPS ON SM SITE. CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THEM TONIGHT.


go back to page 4, Klaas posted the link.


PS... don't yell, we heard you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 27, 2007, 12:21:04 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Leslie in the previous thread:

I believe:
The delivery truck was from Dana Furniture and delivered a bookcase to the VDS's.
Joran did not go to school on Monday. If he did tell a different story to his classmates about Natalee, it could have occured afer the HI story told to the Alabama posse. Joran is known to change his stories and is a braggart.
Simian could barely write French. "I don't know what you are saying. What, I am a woman? Life is not what you think." Ugh!


John Joseph Wardlaw = Teacher
Witness Statement
June 30, 2005


I can tell you with certainty that Joran was in school on May 30, 2005.  On that day he had helped me with moving some school cabinets and folders, because the school is busy with moving to a new building.  This may have been done in his free hours, I am not certain of this.  Also I remember that he had become sick on two days, and he went towards the medical center, which we have at school.  This was on Monday, May 30, 2005 and Tuesday, May 31, 2005 this happened.


I'm not sure I believe Wardlaw.

Probably forgot the script he'd been given.  :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 12:22:08 AM
One thing is certain:  if Joran was not in school on Monday, several people want us to believe he was there.  Wonder why?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:22:38 AM
thanks klaas.

after reading back through simian's posts, just curious if anyone identified importance of his reference to area between moko, noord, and montana (by connecting the dots) then 149 Ivy cualified???

also, his reference to 'yellowhammer.'

who seems to be most credible - simian or shango ?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 12:23:03 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Posted by Leslie in the previous thread:

I believe:
The delivery truck was from Dana Furniture and delivered a bookcase to the VDS's.
Joran did not go to school on Monday. If he did tell a different story to his classmates about Natalee, it could have occured afer the HI story told to the Alabama posse. Joran is known to change his stories and is a braggart.
Simian could barely write French. "I don't know what you are saying. What, I am a woman? Life is not what you think." Ugh!


John Joseph Wardlaw = Teacher
Witness Statement
June 30, 2005


I can tell you with certainty that Joran was in school on May 30, 2005.  On that day he had helped me with moving some school cabinets and folders, because the school is busy with moving to a new building.  This may have been done in his free hours, I am not certain of this.  Also I remember that he had become sick on two days, and he went towards the medical center, which we have at school.  This was on Monday, May 30, 2005 and Tuesday, May 31, 2005 this happened.


I'm not sure I believe Wardlaw.


Yeah, he was the teacher who was at his side during the interviews with Greta, or whatever, right?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:23:37 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
thanks klaas.

after reading back through simian's posts, just curious if anyone identified importance of his reference to area between moko, noord, and montana (by connecting the dots) then 149 Ivy cualified???

also, his reference to 'yellowhammer.'

who seems to be most credible - simian or shango ?


IMO Simian was more credible than Shango


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 12:24:33 AM
Good Night Monkeys

Janet

9:30 PM


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:25:28 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
WHERE ARE THE ARUBA MAPS ON SM SITE. CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THEM TONIGHT.


go back to page 4, Klaas posted the link.


PS... don't yell, we heard you.


sorry 'bout that !!!   :o


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Good Night Monkeys

Janet

9:30 PM


Good nite janet... I am headed there myself...

thanks monkeys...

keep the faith.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 12:25:52 AM
see, the teacher is a LIAR

if they were MOVING things from building to another
why bother having classes?????



since when are students especially LAZY PIGS like joran actually doing work to help others
HUH ?????  

if joran was there..IT was later in the DAY like after school was out
but at least the TEACHER could say that PIG BOY was there  8)


I can tell you with certainty that Joran was in school on May 30, 2005. On that day he had helped me with moving some school cabinets and folders, because the school is busy with moving to a new building. This may have been done in his free hours, I am not certain of this. Also I remember that he had become sick on two days, and he went towards the medical center, which we have at school. This was on Monday, May 30, 2005 and Tuesday, May 31, 2005 this happened.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:26:20 AM
From an old FP comment:

basically what Sim, Shang, Aenim and a few others have hinted at all along
is that other parties are involved. Which many of us agree with already.
A few posters agree that Sim and these other posters describe many local detials to the tee. And yes it is quite possible they are observing things from a distance.
If it is true they are close to local LE and are sharing vague detials or possibilites with us. Don’t get upset with them if they don’t crack the case, they are simply sharing thier
views of the possibilites. And I happen to agree with thier suggestions.

Local LE was involved very early on and now they are screwed…
It seems many are in fear over there, of what?
I know what I’d fear in Los Angeles if I witnessed a crime commited by a cop.
I’d fear other cops and more so thier puppetmasters.
There’s alot more dirt to be uncovered… hopefully it occurs and Aruba will
get cleaned up. The locals would love to get rid of some bad elements there.


read this it explains much of thier message:

# Babalú Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 12:30 am

Concerned

No, I guess he is head of some local official corps. He is the guy that knows everything and that has been in the house of Babylonians NOT seeking pleasure for himself, so Shango says. So maybe he went to search for Natalee and he is the chief of Polis.

and yes the FBI does read these threads, so keep posting up Sim, Shang, Aenim etc
you have little to fear from them. It’s your neighbors you need to keep an eye on.

Comment by ztriggz | June 27, 2005, 1:34 pm


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:26:22 AM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Good Night Monkeys

Janet

9:30 PM


Nite Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 12:28:43 AM
Paul - June 23, 2005.

To your question whether Joran went to school on Monday
May 30th 2005, I can state the following. I cannot precisely recollect
whether Joran went to school that day. It is possible that he did not
go to school that day.
To your question whether Sebastian and Valentijn went to school
that Monday, I can state the following. Yes, they got onto the bus
and went to school because in the period that Anita was away they
took the bus every day.
To your question whether I wait to see if they get on the bus,
I can state following. Yes, I stay and watch.
To your question how it then is possible that I had not seen Joran
get onto the bus, I can state the following. Of course I see the children
get onto the bus and that also is true for Joran. But unlike Valentijn and
Sebastian who went with the bus everyday Joran didn't go with the bus
once or twice during that period. But I do not remember exactly which
days he did not go with the bus. It could be that it was that Monday.
Most likely I informed the bus driver that Joran would not be going with
the bus. A clue to the fact that Joran did not go to school that Monday
could be that on Tuesday I insisted that he went to school that day
.
 :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:29:21 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
thanks klaas.

after reading back through simian's posts, just curious if anyone identified importance of his reference to area between moko, noord, and montana (by connecting the dots) then 149 Ivy cualified???

also, his reference to 'yellowhammer.'

who seems to be most credible - simian or shango ?


You like Shango and Simian don't you?  I see you asking all kinds of questions.  Just keep asking if no one answers you.  

Have you read the Merian Earnest posts also?  They are the "yellowhammer" references.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 12:30:27 AM
Quote from: "AZLady"
One thing is certain:  if Joran was not in school on Monday, several people want us to believe he was there.  Wonder why?

Exactly AZLady.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:33:14 AM
It is obvious that Joran most likely was not in school because if they could prove he was then it would be a fact in writing.  Having Joran in school and acting normal would have been the icing on the cake to justify saying he did nothing to Natalee.  Instead, we have many people trying to confuse once again.  This is the reason I asked this morning about the story that Joran said she was dead when he came to school.  I think that was more  hearsay and it was repeated until it became accepted fact.  I can't figure out why a teacher would lie and say he was there when there would be an entire class to contradict that statement.  Then again maybe he was covering for Joran because of Anita being a teacher there.  I can't quite figure that one out.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:33:44 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
thanks klaas.

after reading back through simian's posts, just curious if anyone identified importance of his reference to area between moko, noord, and montana (by connecting the dots) then 149 Ivy cualified???

also, his reference to 'yellowhammer.'

who seems to be most credible - simian or shango ?


You like Shango and Simian don't you?  I see you asking all kinds of questions.  Just keep asking if no one answers you.  

Have you read the Merian Earnest posts also?  They are the "yellowhammer" references.


i have read here as a non-member for well over a year and read them in the past. they are very fascinating. re-reading sometimes makes different things pop out.

simian seemed to be sending heavy innuendos. what 'shook his wire' in the end? an impersonator?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:35:23 AM
where exactly is moke - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Shell on July 27, 2007, 12:35:39 AM
Quote from: "AZLady"
One thing is certain:  if Joran was not in school on Monday, several people want us to believe he was there.  Wonder why?


He remembers J helping with moving something, and remembers J was sick...why ask a sick kid to help move things


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:37:35 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
It is obvious that Joran most likely was not in school because if they could prove he was then it would be a fact in writing.  Having Joran in school and acting normal would have been the icing on the cake to justify saying he did nothing to Natalee.  Instead, we have many people trying to confuse once again.  This is the reason I asked this morning about the story that Joran said she was dead when he came to school.  I think that was more  hearsay and it was repeated until it became accepted fact.  I can't figure out why a teacher would lie and say he was there when there would be an entire class to contradict that statement.  Then again maybe he was covering for Joran because of Anita being a teacher there.  I can't quite figure that one out.


I think it's possible that Joran got to school on Monday, but very late.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:37:46 AM
Front page comment:

is the half brother in this at all? or all joran?

Comment by pktbk | June 27, 2005, 1:51 pm


Lorenzo comes up again.   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 12:38:16 AM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Rob,

Wow, nice video!


sleddogs- thank you for the compliment. It means alot to me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:38:51 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
thanks klaas.

after reading back through simian's posts, just curious if anyone identified importance of his reference to area between moko, noord, and montana (by connecting the dots) then 149 Ivy cualified???

also, his reference to 'yellowhammer.'

who seems to be most credible - simian or shango ?


You like Shango and Simian don't you?  I see you asking all kinds of questions.  Just keep asking if no one answers you.  

Have you read the Merian Earnest posts also?  They are the "yellowhammer" references.


i have read here as a non-member for well over a year and read them in the past. they are very fascinating. re-reading sometimes makes different things pop out.

simian seemed to be sending heavy innuendos. what 'shook his wire' in the end? an impersonator?


He was discovered.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 12:39:42 AM
Moko - near Noord - where the illegal dump is.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 12:41:25 AM
anita


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:42:50 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml


I believe the Moko they are referring to is a pond area behind the Sloot residence.  You wouldn't find it on the maps.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:43:09 AM
what do you feel, specifically, is meant by 'the rotten package from the Hague?'

if Kalpoe's were in on the drugging of the drink(lets assume they helped) and witness Nat's expiration / demise - but sent home (not to help with disposal, maybe just alibis) , WHAT KEEPS THEM SO BINDED TO THIS GAME. do you think Paulus gave them a good talking to, convincing them there role would make them equally guilty. OR ARE THEY REALLY EQUALLY GUILTY WITH THE RAPE AND MURDER?

just wondering...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:43:55 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml


I believe the Moko they are referring to is a pond area behind the Sloot residence.  You wouldn't find it on the maps.


gotcha - thx


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:46:39 AM
FP comment:
#

what boyfriend.. I keep hearing she was with another guy the first three nights.. Where did you get this from. I have not read it in any of the news postings

Comment by edie | June 27, 2005, 9:40 pm
#

seems like the three boys would be pressed for time ie picking her up at the club at 130 then joran leaving her on the beach around 240 ie hiding the body seems it might be more feasible they left her at a party and went home

Comment by chris | June 27, 2005, 9:40 pm
#

Edie…supposedly that is Lorenzo the guy in the blue van from what I recall of all the postings.

Comment by Hopefloats | June 27, 2005, 9:40 pm


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 12:46:41 AM
Search and Rescue Aruba
http://sarfa.org/index.html
Note the article about Moko and another one about a whale shark in front of the refinery.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 12:48:25 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
what do you feel, specifically, is meant by 'the rotten package from the Hague?'

if Kalpoe's were in on the drugging of the drink(lets assume they helped) and witness Nat's expiration / demise - but sent home (not to help with disposal, maybe just alibis) , WHAT KEEPS THEM SO BINDED TO THIS GAME. do you think Paulus gave them a good talking to, convincing them there role would make them equally guilty. OR ARE THEY REALLY EQUALLY GUILTY WITH THE RAPE AND MURDER?

just wondering...


JMO, the rotten package from the Hague are the forensics results of chocolate and cleaning fluid in the car.  I believe these results came from samples that were not from the car in which Natalee rode.

Again, JMO, the Kalpoes participated in the gang rape and murder.  When Beth visited Deepak at the Internet Cafe, she asked him why he did not help Natalee in her time of need.  He didn't answer but just looked down.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:50:44 AM
FP comment:

#

Shango said the key to the Hague did not exist

that door to eden remains closed

until the house with the path

But not of gold

is entered

Comment by Shango | June 27, 2005, 9:46 pm
#

Shango is back with the 12:31 AM post thing again, but this time, Dirtyhand is alive? I don’t think you ever said Dirtyhand was dead? Arggggg

Comment by Big Pappy | June 27, 2005, 9:47 pm
#

I also am curious, what boyfriend of three days?
Where are the characters that set us up with the noon prediction that something would be on the news shortly??

Comment by Concerned | June 27, 2005, 9:48 pm
#

I think there is a misunderstanding. I read that the ‘other boy’ was her cousin.

Comment by Peggy | June 27, 2005, 9:48 pm
#

Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12

Comment by Shango | June 27, 2005, 9:48 pm

#

no package from the Hague? and the house where they need to look is not the Vds?

Comment by Hopefloats | June 27, 2005, 9:49 pm
#

I think what Shango and Simian are saying is that a underground rave party was where the 4 went (kalpoes, jvds, nh). drugs and other vices were involved including xtc. this leads to many tangled webs as the drug dealers and polis are friendly with one another. if the “one” speaks out he will bring down the entire operation. The polis and the drug dealers have enough (or at least they hope) pull to keep the truth from coming out.

Comment by buyme | June 27, 2005, 9:49 pm
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:53:00 AM
Quote from: "Leslie"
Search and Rescue Aruba
http://sarfa.org/index.html
Note the article about Moko and another one about a whale shark in front of the refinery.


where would that correspond approximately on this map?
name a town and point me in a direction.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:53:34 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Quote from: "Leslie"
Search and Rescue Aruba
http://sarfa.org/index.html
Note the article about Moko and another one about a whale shark in front of the refinery.


where would that correspond approximately on this map? http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml
name a town and point me in a direction.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Hotshot on July 27, 2007, 12:54:05 AM
Rancho Monte Blanco is in Moko.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 12:54:41 AM
ya know guys.. I get a lot of questions about why the site is named Zoltan Zion.

I hope to clear it up right now.

See I am a Jew. We name our children after dead Jewish people. In some way our dead relatives live on.

I too am named after a dead Jew. So it is in line with the KKK site only attracting hate monger and people that have no frickin clue which end is up, so an explanation for the brain damaged is needed.

I personally named the site after two dead people so their name could live on.

Both of these people survived the Holocaust.

One was a neighbor who's grandfather was a survivor. And the other was my Grandfather.

Doesn't matter which one was which. The point is that both survived the Nazi's.

So when I hear people like The King Dutch Bag call this a hate site... I hope that God will strike him dead in his tracks.

And believe me I have some chips.

don't tempt it. you know who you are.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 12:55:22 AM
Lala,

I enjoy your posts here at SM :) We heard recently from dave or art that both Jan VDS and Dennis Jacobs flashed there guns to them on there day off. It was quite clear who they were protecting and I can only imagine the intimdation on that island for witnesses in this case.


Rob:

Killer video!! Amazing how many pics from the newspapers you have collected! Music was nice too 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:56:30 AM
I am getting sleepy now.  I fear I may be lost while the change over is made.  If I don't get back, you guys come looking for me.  I may be in withdrawals.  I hope Dugga heard that and works fast a lightning.  Hugs to Nemo.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 12:57:54 AM
Quote from: "*******"
Lala,

I enjoy your posts here at SM :) We heard recently from dave or art that both Jan VDS and Dennis Jacobs flashed there guns to them on there day off. It was quite clear who they were protecting and I can only imagine the intimdation on that island for witnesses in this case.


Rob:

Killer video!! Amazing how many pics from the newspapers you have collected! Music was nice too 8)


 Thank you.  I am not very smart when it comes to tangoing.  I just take my cues from other smart monkeys.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 12:58:41 AM
art wood and clint vanzandt spoke very intelligent about this case and i thoroughly enjoyed hearing their points of view.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Shell on July 27, 2007, 01:00:44 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am getting sleepy now.  I fear I may be lost while the change over is made.  If I don't get back, you guys come looking for me.  I may be in withdrawals.  I hope Dugga heard that and works fast a lightning.  Hugs to Nemo.


Lala's, I enjoy your posts here too. Thought provoking, please don't ever apologize for tangoing


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:02:08 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am getting sleepy now.  I fear I may be lost while the change over is made.  If I don't get back, you guys come looking for me.  I may be in withdrawals.  I hope Dugga heard that and works fast a lightning.  Hugs to Nemo.


Lala's email me tonight or tomorrow so I'm sure to have your address:

smklaasend@hotmail.com


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 01:02:11 AM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"


JMO, the rotten package from the Hague are the forensics results of chocolate and cleaning fluid in the car.  I believe these results came from samples that were not from the car in which Natalee rode.

Again, JMO, the Kalpoes participated in the gang rape and murder.  When Beth visited Deepak at the Internet Cafe, she asked him why he did not help Natalee in her time of need.  He didn't answer but just looked down.


I agree with you and as you know TJ Ward thought they got the wrong car! Seeing Beth confront Deepak told me alot him as he couldnt come close to looking her in the eye. He also did nothing to convince her that he is innocent. He is involved and he knows what happened to Natalee.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Shell on July 27, 2007, 01:02:32 AM
G nite you all


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 27, 2007, 01:03:08 AM
SLOOTS   :arrow:   SUPER LIARS

And massive obstructionists. Of course Paulus and Joran know all about Monday morning, in detail. It was that very night that their memory banks were put on alert by Natalee's family and ALE. Followed by 10 days of story rehearsal.

Yet Paulus cannot recall. And Joran switches back and forth between bus from home and bus from theatre. Lies, lies of omission, lies for distraction, lies by the bushelfull. It's all very disgusting, and clearly not simply because Joran left a girl *at the beach*.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:03:08 AM
Quote from: "Rob"
ya know guys.. I get a lot of questions about why the site is named Zoltan Zion.

I hope to clear it up right now.

See I am a Jew. We name our children after dead Jewish people. In some way our dead relatives live on.

I too am named after a dead Jew. So it is in line with the KKK site only attracting hate monger and people that have no frickin clue which end is up, so an explanation for the brain damaged is needed.

I personally named the site after two dead people so their name could live on.

Both of these people survived the Holocaust.

One was a neighbor who's grandfather was a survivor. And the other was my Grandfather.

Doesn't matter which one was which. The point is that both survived the Nazi's.

So when I hear people like The King Dutch Bag call this a hate site... I hope that God will strike him dead in his tracks.

And believe me I have some chips.

don't tempt it. you know who you are.


You're a jew?  :shock:  Just kidding, lol  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: casa on July 27, 2007, 01:04:18 AM
Hey Monkeys who are here this late!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:04:56 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
SLOOTS   :arrow:   SUPER LIARS

And massive obstructionists. Of course Paulus and Joran know all about Monday morning, in detail. It was that very night that their memory banks were put on alert by Natalee's family and ALE. Followed by 10 days of story rehearsal.

Yet Paulus cannot recall. And Joran switches back and forth between bus from home and bus from theatre. Lies, lies of omission, lies for distraction, lies by the bushelfull. It's all very disgusting, and clearly not simply because Joran left a girl *at the beach*.

Igsigs - EXACTLY

That's why all this Natalee was doing drugs thing bothers me so much.  Not because of the possiblity that she was doing drugs, she may have.  Because if she simply OD'd there would be no need for all this BS.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:05:28 AM
Quote from: "casa"
Hey Monkeys who are here this late!


Hi Casa - pretty busy tonight..right now anyway, lol  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: casa on July 27, 2007, 01:06:43 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "casa"
Hey Monkeys who are here this late!


Hi Casa - pretty busy tonight..right now anyway, lol  :wink:


I just managed to get here!  Any thing new?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 27, 2007, 01:07:00 AM
Good night all

OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:07:24 AM
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "casa"
Hey Monkeys who are here this late!


Hi Casa - pretty busy tonight..right now anyway, lol  :wink:


I just managed to get here!  Any thing new?

No Casa - nothing new, we're just going over old stuff.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 01:07:28 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
SLOOTS   :arrow:   SUPER LIARS

And massive obstructionists. Of course Paulus and Joran know all about Monday morning, in detail. It was that very night that their memory banks were put on alert by Natalee's family and ALE. Followed by 10 days of story rehearsal.

Yet Paulus cannot recall. And Joran switches back and forth between bus from home and bus from theatre. Lies, lies of omission, lies for distraction, lies by the bushelfull. It's all very disgusting, and clearly not simply because Joran left a girl *at the beach*.

Igsigs - EXACTLY

That's why all this Natalee was doing drugs thing bothers me so much.  Not because of the possiblity that she was doing drugs, she may have.  Because if she simply OD'd there would be no need for all this BS.


Or if it was a accident like Natalee hitting her head while swimming..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 01:08:03 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml


I believe the Moko they are referring to is a pond area behind the Sloot residence.  You wouldn't find it on the maps.


 I was lookin through my photobcuket.. someome posted a photo,, one I dont recall seeing before in the old threads.. I saved it earlier and cant seem to locate it now.  <vista blows> .. I have it saved somewhere.. lol But its a pic.. I dont recall seeing.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:09:20 AM
Angie - I have some photos too.  Some were posted in one of the threads a couple days ago.

Hotshot - do have any photos of the Moko near the Sloots?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 01:09:55 AM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml


I believe the Moko they are referring to is a pond area behind the Sloot residence.  You wouldn't find it on the maps.


 I was lookin through my photobcuket.. someome posted a photo,, one I dont recall seeing before in the old threads.. I saved it earlier and cant seem to locate it now.  <vista blows> .. I have it saved somewhere.. lol But its a pic.. I dont recall seeing.


hello Bunny '

im glad you are here... but i thought your were taking a bunny nap ?? 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: casa on July 27, 2007, 01:10:49 AM
My 2 cents worth - If something happened to Natalee that could have been construd as an accident why not let it be known.  Why not call someone for help?  There had to be some sort of illegal/immoral behavior.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 01:12:09 AM
was it reported early on in the investigation that a call was made approx 630AM from an area near the bird sanctuary?

who agrees that most of the text messages occurred while in the company of one another. i do not believe the computer records to be accurate at all. not for one second. kalpoe's may have manipulated theirs to show action but the sloots computer was being worked by someone other than JVDS or PVDS.

PVDS and JVDS had a major job at hand into the wee hours of the night.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:14:09 AM
Quote from: "casa"
My 2 cents worth - If something happened to Natalee that could have been construd as an accident why not let it be known.  Why not call someone for help?  There had to be some sort of illegal/immoral behavior.


EXACTLY!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 01:15:22 AM
Quote from: "Rob"
ya know guys.. I get a lot of questions about why the site is named Zoltan Zion.

I hope to clear it up right now.

See I am a Jew. We name our children after dead Jewish people. In some way our dead relatives live on.

I too am named after a dead Jew. So it is in line with the KKK site only attracting hate monger and people that have no frickin clue which end is up, so an explanation for the brain damaged is needed.

I personally named the site after two dead people so their name could live on.

Both of these people survived the Holocaust.

One was a neighbor who's grandfather was a survivor. And the other was my Grandfather.

Doesn't matter which one was which. The point is that both survived the Nazi's.

So when I hear people like The King Dutch Bag call this a hate site... I hope that God will strike him dead in his tracks.

And believe me I have some chips.

don't tempt it. you know who you are.


  oh and BTW.. I listened to that song..   8)     LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: casa on July 27, 2007, 01:17:05 AM
Angie, you better speak to me!!! I am so sorry about your health problems!  Hope you are better!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 01:17:25 AM
Yes, that comment is correct from a few pages back that virtually ALL early posts and virtually ALL Aruban-based posters agreed that the events of the night involved more perps than JK2. That is a SIGNIFICANT thing, that says that they were latched onto some truth about what happened, even if they did speak in riddles.

I really have thought from the beginning that the best clues to be had were the earliest and freshest ones... that what Joran and K2 said at the very first, BEFORE the coverup and the "lawyer-up" kicked in and BEFORE they had time to think up lies, was what we needed to take heed to.

Joran told his friends and acquaintances that Natalee was dead, within 24 hours after he met her. NO "left her on the beach" junk had infiltrated his brain yet. However, he was unable to state clearly HOW it happened. That's a given for murderers. They ramble all over the map about the how and why because they haven't latched onto the "received text" of events yet that they want to put out for public consumption. They want to cover all bases and test the waters to see what people will believe before settling on a story.

This is probably my last post before we do the changeover... I'm running out of gas fast tonight and the Bunkey calls. I will see y'all tomorrow night late, or Saturday sometime, on the other side of all the big goings-on!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 01:17:48 AM
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
where exactly is moko - can't seem to find it here.

http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml


I believe the Moko they are referring to is a pond area behind the Sloot residence.  You wouldn't find it on the maps.


 I was lookin through my photobcuket.. someome posted a photo,, one I dont recall seeing before in the old threads.. I saved it earlier and cant seem to locate it now.  <vista blows> .. I have it saved somewhere.. lol But its a pic.. I dont recall seeing.


hello Bunny '

im glad you are here... but i thought your were taking a bunny nap ?? 8)


 Hi honey.. I  wish I could nap.  :(  I may need to trade bunny ears in for devil horns here soon.   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 01:20:28 AM
Quote from: casa
Angie, you better speak to me!!! I am so sorry about your health problems!  Hope you are better![/quote
  Hey Casa !!  :) I was catching up and was gonna HOLLA at yah !
TY hon.. feel like shit ,,but under the influence right now..  LOL
  Hope all is well with you!!   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 01:21:13 AM
this is a nice timeline - i am sure it has been seen by all.

neat to read !!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 01:21:40 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
this is a nice timeline - i am sure it has been seen by all.

neat to read !!!


http://members.aol.com/worldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:22:06 AM
Nite SB


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 27, 2007, 01:22:47 AM
BUCKSHOT > I am sure there are computer / cell records available, but not released, that would give us a much clearer picture of what went down.

Hopefully ALE was able to access suspect financial records in order to see cell phone / computer purchases and monthly bills, etc...

Worrisome there is the flying judges. If they denied a search of Paulus' home...it is quite possible that a financial record search was denied under the same umbrella.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: casa on July 27, 2007, 01:23:39 AM
Quote from: Angiex911dsptchr
Quote from: "casa"
Angie, you better speak to me!!! I am so sorry about your health problems!  Hope you are better![/quote
  Hey Casa !!  :) I was catching up and was gonna HOLLA at yah !
TY hon.. feel like shit ,,but under the influence right now..  LOL
  Hope all is well with you!!   :wink:


Sometimes "under the influence" is A-OK!  All is great with me!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
this is a nice timeline - i am sure it has been seen by all.

neat to read !!!


http://members.aol.com/worldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html


Yes, I'm sure most of us have seen it.  I've had it bookmarked since the beginning of the case.  WJ has everything there, he's put alot of time into it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 01:24:45 AM
Night SB


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 01:27:45 AM
Quote from: casa
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "casa"
Angie, you better speak to me!!! I am so sorry about your health problems!  Hope you are better![/quote
  Hey Casa !!  :) I was catching up and was gonna HOLLA at yah !
TY hon.. feel like shit ,,but under the influence right now..  LOL
  Hope all is well with you!!   :wink:


Sometimes "under the influence" is A-OK!  All is great with me!


 :lol:  Glad all is great with yah!   8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 01:32:52 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
BUCKSHOT > I am sure there are computer / cell records available, but not released, that would give us a much clearer picture of what went down.

Hopefully ALE was able to access suspect financial records in order to see cell phone / computer purchases and monthly bills, etc...

Worrisome there is the flying judges. If they denied a search of Paulus' home...it is quite possible that a financial record search was denied under the same umbrella.


igsigs,

when conversation steers this way, concerning people checking records, etc... my mind goes way cloudy.

for example: one person sends a search team with warrant in hand to conduct a search at the VDS residence, while another member of the same team blocks / limits that warrant.

another example: one team collects blood from the car, while another team switches the sample, then a third team makes sure the results come back clean.

another example: one person collects forensic evidence, while another person accepts that evidence and throws it away / destroys it.

on and on and on and on............

it is metaphorically like one group pushes the ball ten feet forward while another team stands on the opposite and pushes the same ball back ten and half feet.  are the people collecting the evidence honest and competent? are ther any honest ALE who we feel have tried to do their job and bring this case closer to resolution, while the corruption is at a higher level? or is everyone corrupt and just putting on a show for the media?? IT IS COMPLETELY ASS GABKWARDS AND MAKES NO SENSE TO ME !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 01:38:44 AM
Does anyone besides smell a SHADY DOUBLE AGENT in Charles Croes?

He was an informant to the ALE, while acting as such a helpful and polite gentleman to the Holloway / Twitty family.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:40:35 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Does anyone besides smell a SHADY DOUBLE AGENT in Charles Croes?

He was an informant to the ALE, while acting as such a helpful and polite gentleman to the Holloway / Twitty family.

I'd like to know why CC was arrested early in the case.  It was reported to be some kind of domestic dispute but I wonder if it was to "set him straight".


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:44:33 AM
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2006/01/harrytho_19_nat.php

I spoke with a member of the Police Force of Aruba regaridng the Vanity Fair article. And this is their reaction:

At the early stage of the investigation a lot of aruban citizen was trying to help to Twittie's for instance Mr. Charles Croes who was the one that also spoke with Joran. Charles Croes was intervieuwed by the Vanity Fair where he answer a lot of questions and also did a very interesting statement of his conversation with Joran. Guess what guys...Charles was called in by the local police and question as a witness. You know what most of his answers was??? Ï can't recall, I can't remember and the most interesing one was Ï didn't say that....So whoever that could have read that interesting intervieuw of Charles Croes just waste their time. Charles Croes was arrested last year for threathening his wife and also Charles Croes was fired from a huge Developing Company for misuse of alcohol. His first wife didn't had the most pleasant time during the divorce process and authorities firmly believe that Charles Croes is not else then a moocher! So, more then half of the story in Vanity Fair does not enjoy a credibilty. Charles Croes assisted Beth and Jug in providing cellulars at a reasonable rental price to the full crew of Beth and Jug. Charles Croes runs the Digicel cellular rentals at the airport. case closed for Charles Croes. He is awaiting trial for his last incident.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 27, 2007, 01:46:48 AM
V/D Straten - Shucking and Jiving

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/02/ng.01.html

Oh man, on June 2 Nancy Grace was all over Jan and the HI dropoff. He shoulda listened, and taken note. Instead he canonizes the *3 school boys*.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:47:11 AM
I've had a long day today, so I'm going to call it a night.

GOODNIGHT ALL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 01:49:28 AM
Aruba and its officials probably spent more time blocking the investigation / monitoring the family's whereabouts / examining their every move then investigating the crime and its perpetrators.

They (ALE) all knew what happened within 2-3 days.

It was like the Hollway / Twitty family was a gerbil inside of a maze trying to reach a piece of cheese. After a while, when the gerbil finally reached the cheese, after long painstaking strides, the ALE (on the outside of the cage) would lift them by the tail and place them back at 'START.'

The family had no idea what they were up against initially.  They assumed the legal system to operate somewhat congruent to that of the USA.  It took a while to figure out that everyhting was not above board and, by that point, it may have been too late.  WOW - the thought of people inserted into the picture to intentionally misguide the family, steering them in the wrong direction, give them poor advice, distracting them on one part of the island to prevent them from seeing the truth on the opposite end of the island. CRUEL. The family was so disadvantaged from the onset - they didn't stand a chance.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: casa on July 27, 2007, 01:57:10 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Aruba and its officials probably spent more time blocking the investigation / monitoring the family's whereabouts / examining their every move then investigating the crime and its perpetrators.

They (ALE) all knew what happened within 2-3 days.

It was like the Hollway / Twitty family was a gerbil inside of a maze trying to reach a piece of cheese. After a while, when the gerbil finally reached the cheese, after long painstaking strides, the ALE (on the outside of the cage) would lift them by the tail and place them back at 'START.'

The family had no idea what they were up against initially.  They assumed the legal system to operate somewhat congruent to that of the USA.  It took a while to figure out that everyhting was not above board and, by that point, it may have been too late.  WOW - the thought of people inserted into the picture to intentionally misguide the family, steering them in the wrong direction, give them poor advice, distracting them on one part of the island to prevent them from seeing the truth on the opposite end of the island. CRUEL. The family was so disadvantaged from the onset - they didn't stand a chance.
[/b]

You talk as if you are speaking for the family.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 02:01:13 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
I've had a long day today, so I'm going to call it a night.

GOODNIGHT ALL!


  Night Klaas..
 Night eveyone..  
 smoochies for my Chuck. sweet dreams babydoll..   :wink:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: casa on July 27, 2007, 02:25:24 AM
No answer, ok.  Maybe that is the answer.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Pita on July 27, 2007, 07:31:10 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Angie - I have some photos too.  Some were posted in one of the threads a couple days ago.

Hotshot - do have any photos of the Moko near the Sloots?


Ditch/Moko by Joran's House

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m153/CMPM/moko.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m153/CMPM/moko2.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m153/CMPM/moko3.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m153/CMPM/moko4.jpg)

Credit: Kermit


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: justinsmama on July 27, 2007, 07:35:07 AM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Does anyone besides smell a SHADY DOUBLE AGENT in Charles Croes?

He was an informant to the ALE, while acting as such a helpful and polite gentleman to the Holloway / Twitty family.


You mean like Renfro? Yup.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: justinsmama on July 27, 2007, 07:39:27 AM
Off to the salt mines for the day. See y'all later.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 07:40:38 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Leslie"
Dana's Woonidee
Address: Fergusonstraat 21A
Phone: (297) 583-0912 / (297) 585-0893
Fax: (297) 583-0793  
Categories: Furniture dealers  


Yep.  I'm trying to remember who was trying to tell us it was a pet food place.  Then they said they have pet food and furniture.



I am still behind, trying to catch up. I remember that vividly, BUT I also forget WHO was spewing the dog food garbage.
Let's see...what type of business can I make money from...ummmmmm...OH, I HAVE IT!! I can deliver DOG FOOD to people's homes in a FURNITURE TRUCK!! THAT's IT!! I will make millions.

ACKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Sometimes my dial-up number is busy!
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 07:44:57 AM
Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
24ora
http://www.24ora.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: wreck on July 27, 2007, 08:37:20 AM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Leslie"
Dana's Woonidee
Address: Fergusonstraat 21A
Phone: (297) 583-0912 / (297) 585-0893
Fax: (297) 583-0793  
Categories: Furniture dealers  


Yep.  I'm trying to remember who was trying to tell us it was a pet food place.  Then they said they have pet food and furniture.



I am still behind, trying to catch up. I remember that vividly, BUT I also forget WHO was spewing the dog food garbage.
Let's see...what type of business can I make money from...ummmmmm...OH, I HAVE IT!! I can deliver DOG FOOD to people's homes in a FURNITURE TRUCK!! THAT's IT!! I will make millions.

ACKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 :D  :D Easy had the line of the evening last night: "Gotta run -- the "furniture truck" is delivering my pizza!" :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tiger on July 27, 2007, 08:55:14 AM
This will be my last post before the change over.i thought you had to go to Trinidad,Co.,for  a changeover.Will it hurt?Take care Monkeys and good morning.Bye


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:19:55 AM
Quote from: "Tiger"
This will be my last post before the change over.i thought you had to go to Trinidad,Co.,for  a changeover.Will it hurt?Take care Monkeys and good morning.Bye


When is this place shutting down?  Tonight?  Do we all need to get cootie shots before the new and improved forum comes up?  ~circle circle dot dot~  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:21:33 AM
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Leslie"
Dana's Woonidee
Address: Fergusonstraat 21A
Phone: (297) 583-0912 / (297) 585-0893
Fax: (297) 583-0793  
Categories: Furniture dealers  


Yep.  I'm trying to remember who was trying to tell us it was a pet food place.  Then they said they have pet food and furniture.



I am still behind, trying to catch up. I remember that vividly, BUT I also forget WHO was spewing the dog food garbage.
Let's see...what type of business can I make money from...ummmmmm...OH, I HAVE IT!! I can deliver DOG FOOD to people's homes in a FURNITURE TRUCK!! THAT's IT!! I will make millions.

ACKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 :D  :D Easy had the line of the evening last night: "Gotta run -- the "furniture truck" is delivering my pizza!" :lol:  :lol:


Well, I did get a large with extra cheese!   :P  :lol:  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 09:35:37 AM
Morning monkeys.

For those who are interested, here is an account of yesterday's sock monkey adventures in San Francisco.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=254883#254883


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kimmy53 on July 27, 2007, 09:37:22 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!!


TGIF!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: the big hammer on July 27, 2007, 09:42:24 AM
Goon At School: 5/30/05?

Lala'sMom writes: "...Instead, we have many people trying to confuse once again. This is the reason I asked this morning about the story that Joran said she was dead when he came to school. I think that was more hearsay and it was repeated until it became accepted fact..."

Agreed there is much confusion surrounding this point, and Paulus' evasiveness in PV doesn't help.

The report of "hit her head while swimming and drowned" was a published report, I believe in National Enquirer.  It was in print, and not an invented story.  It was reported also that this is what jvds was telling classmates.

At one point long ago, this was the subject of much discussion here.  Among the things that remained open, was whether this "drowning" report was referencing in-school discussion for Monday 5/30/05 OR Tuesday 5/31/05.

Wadlaws statement seems to be saying that goon had to visit the "nurse's office" (or in school medical facility) on both Monday AND Tuesday, because he was "sick".

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:48:47 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Morning monkeys.

For those who are interested, here is an account of yesterday's sock monkey adventures in San Francisco.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=254883#254883


LOL  Looks like you guys are really working your butts off on this conference!   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 09:50:16 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Morning monkeys.

For those who are interested, here is an account of yesterday's sock monkey adventures in San Francisco.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=254883#254883


LOL  Looks like you guys are really working your butts off on this conference!   :shock:


It's a hard life! Taking free tours of the city and then consuming free chocky cake and wine is not for the fainthearted!  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:51:45 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Morning monkeys.

For those who are interested, here is an account of yesterday's sock monkey adventures in San Francisco.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=254883#254883


LOL  Looks like you guys are really working your butts off on this conference!   :shock:


It's a hard life! Taking free tours of the city and then consuming free chocky cake and wine is not for the fainthearted!  :P


Not just anyone could deal with that type of pressure!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Morning monkeys.

For those who are interested, here is an account of yesterday's sock monkey adventures in San Francisco.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=254883#254883


LOL  Looks like you guys are really working your butts off on this conference!   :shock:


It's a hard life! Taking free tours of the city and then consuming free chocky cake and wine is not for the fainthearted!  :P


Not just anyone could deal with that type of pressure!


Tell me about it! Look at what happened to poor Donna!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 10:03:25 AM
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Aruba and its officials probably spent more time blocking the investigation / monitoring the family's whereabouts / examining their every move then investigating the crime and its perpetrators.

They (ALE) all knew what happened within 2-3 days.

It was like the Hollway / Twitty family was a gerbil inside of a maze trying to reach a piece of cheese. After a while, when the gerbil finally reached the cheese, after long painstaking strides, the ALE (on the outside of the cage) would lift them by the tail and place them back at 'START.'

The family had no idea what they were up against initially.  They assumed the legal system to operate somewhat congruent to that of the USA.  It took a while to figure out that everyhting was not above board and, by that point, it may have been too late.  WOW - the thought of people inserted into the picture to intentionally misguide the family, steering them in the wrong direction, give them poor advice, distracting them on one part of the island to prevent them from seeing the truth on the opposite end of the island. CRUEL. The family was so disadvantaged from the onset - they didn't stand a chance.
[/b]

You talk as if you are speaking for the family.


NOT THE CASE - JUST MY PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS !!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:04:03 AM
Hi Monkeys... before we do the renovations.. if anyone wanted anything out of cafepress  ... they need to order it today.  it's gone after that... there will be new stuff added but this is it for the vintage stuff...


I have a lot of work to do but will bbl ... see y'all this afternoon!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 10:04:24 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
V/D Straten - Shucking and Jiving

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/02/ng.01.html

Oh man, on June 2 Nancy Grace was all over Jan and the HI dropoff. He shoulda listened, and taken note. Instead he canonizes the *3 school boys*.


All of Van der Straaten's answers:

NANCY GRACE for Thursday, June 2, 2005, CNNHN

Aired June 2, 2005 - 20:00:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

GRACE: Let me go to Aruba District Police commissioner Jan Van Derstraten.

Welcome, Commissioner. Thank you for being with us. Sir...

JAN VAN DERSTRATEN, ARUBA DISTRICT POLICE: Good evening.

GRACE: ... could you tell me about the men that were seen with Natalee last? What has become of them? I understand they have been questioned and released.

DERSTRATEN: No, no, that`s not the question. The police started an investigation. And the police have to do investigation and has a search Tuesday morning, a search with helicopters. And we started -- today, we did a big search with a lot of people with the Dutch marine, too, and with the coast guard, tried to find the girl.

And the family was here, too. We talked with the mother. Everyday we talk with the mother. And we talk -- it was true that the young girl was in a nightclub together with other young people, young boys, local boys. And they were together.

And the investigation team (UNINTELLIGIBLE) as witnesses, and that`s the reason why we talked with them. That`s the law in Aruba, that if you talk with witnesses, they are not suspects.

GRACE: Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten with us. Commissioner, what did the men tell you that Natalee left the club with?

DERSTRATEN: No, they left the club about 2 o`clock, 1 o`clock, 1:30, and they were together in a car. And the girl met the other boys of the school who are in the Holiday Inn. And the girl said, "I go to take a trip over to Aruba," and the boys were together. And the boys told us that they bring the girl back about 2 o`clock in the morning to the hotel.

GRACE: We`re looking at a picture right now. It`s almost 20 miles long, six miles across.

Back to Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten. Commissioner, are you looking, searching in any particular area?

DERSTRATEN: Yes, we are looking on the west point by the lighthouse. You can see that maybe on the map. But other than that we are searching today with the marine and with the coast guard, too.

And yes, we are looking the last three days. The family brought a lot of flyers to gasoline stations and other buildings (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and they give tips to the investigation team. And the investigation, up until now, we don`t find the girl.

GRACE: Are you convinced that she ever made it to her hotel, Commissioner?

DERSTRATEN: Yes, that`s part of the investigation. I hope you can understand that, because the impact on the island is very great, big for us, because, yes, you know, we are a happy island, but we are a safety island. And we have a low crime rate. So everyone is in force now to look and to search for the girl.

GRACE: Take a listen to this.

GRACE: Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten is with us from Aruba. Commissioner, when exactly was she reported missing?

DERSTRATEN: She was reported missing on Monday morning.

GRACE: Monday morning. Let me go back to Tiffany...

DERSTRATEN: Yes (UNINTELLIGIBLE) police.

GRACE: OK, back to Commissioner Jan Van Derstraten. Commissioner, about these young men that you interviewed, they are not suspects at this juncture?

DERSTRATEN: Until now. Until now they are not suspects, no.

GRACE: They had told they dropped her off at her hotel. I believe it was the Holiday Inn there in Aruba. Do either of them have a criminal record?

DERSTRATEN: No, there are no criminal records for them. Young people -- they are going to school. And young people on the same -- from the same age, yes, certainly.

GRACE: For those of you planning a summer vacation, this girl, Natalee Holloway, went on a class trip, her high school senior class trip, to Aruba. She has never been seen again.

Welcome back, I`m Nancy Grace. Joining us from Aruba, the Aruba district police commissioner, Jan Van Derstraten.

Commissioner, as of tonight, what is the latest? What are your people doing to try to find Natalee?

DERSTRATEN: Yes. We have a lot of police. We went to the TV. We let see the portrait and asked for tips. We checked all the tips we get. But until now, we have nothing on this small island.

And the investigation is going on, too. And I hope you can understand, I can`t tell everything about the investigation. But we are still going on with about 16 police officers, together with the FBI. They were on the island, too.

GRACE: So the FBI is there?

DERSTRATEN: Yes, we are working close together. He arrived yesterday, and we picked him up at the airport. And...

GRACE: Commissioner, are you convinced in your heart and in your mind that this girl made it back to her hotel that night?

DERSTRATEN: Yes, but that`s the point. That`s under investigation now. And on the first day, you hope that you can find the girl together with other girls and other boys on the beach or somewhere else. The second day, you hope that again. And after three or four days, you are thinking about other things. And the investigation is...

GRACE: I have got a question for you, Commissioner. I know that the young men she was with, that she left at a disco with, say they dropped her off there at the hotel. I believe the Holiday Inn.

DERSTRATEN: Yes.

GRACE: The desk clerk did not see her come in. Could you...

DERSTRATEN: That`s correct, yes.

GRACE: Could you give me the configuration of the hotel? Would she have to walk past the desk clerk to get to her room?

DERSTRATEN: No, that`s not necessary. She can go another way, too, because she was sleeping in the third building of the hotel. She can go outside. She can go via the casinos. She can go all the way to the sleeping rooms.

So that`s the point. But she did not arrive in the sleeping room. But it`s not necessary, especially necessary that she had to see her at the lobby.

GRACE: Right, right.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 10:18:12 AM
LOOKS LIKE Mr. Reality has done a little hacking overnight on the
http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?act=SF&f=16& site ...
clicking on many links in here give you a message of this sort>>>
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Date: Friday 27th of July 2007 10:12:15 AM



NOW YOU TELL ME....if this were NOT Robin's Reality...then why hack??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 10:19:22 AM
SORRY I DID IT...I BLEW THE MARGINS....waaaaaaa.so sorry but it was important, lol[/b]


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 10:31:35 AM
A huge lie by Van der Straten here. Says she could have gone in another entrance but HE KNEW BY THEN the three suspects never dropped her off at THE LOBBY where they said they did. By june 2nd he had seen the videos and knew they had lied.



GRACE: Commissioner, are you convinced in your heart and in your mind that this girl made it back to her hotel that night?

DERSTRATEN: Yes, but that`s the point. That`s under investigation now. And on the first day, you hope that you can find the girl together with other girls and other boys on the beach or somewhere else. The second day, you hope that again. And after three or four days, you are thinking about other things. And the investigation is...

GRACE: I have got a question for you, Commissioner. I know that the young men she was with, that she left at a disco with, say they dropped her off there at the hotel. I believe the Holiday Inn.

DERSTRATEN: Yes.

GRACE: The desk clerk did not see her come in. Could you...

DERSTRATEN: That`s correct, yes.

GRACE: Could you give me the configuration of the hotel? Would she have to walk past the desk clerk to get to her room?

DERSTRATEN: No, that`s not necessary. She can go another way, too, because she was sleeping in the third building of the hotel. She can go outside. She can go via the casinos. She can go all the way to the sleeping rooms.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
SORRY I DID IT...I BLEW THE MARGINS....waaaaaaa.so sorry but it was important, lol[/b]


The site map there pulls up all porn links....the search menu says it's been disabled...coincidence that the error shows up today?  mmmm


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
A huge lie by Van der Straten here. Says she could have gone in another entrance but HE KNEW BY THEN the three suspects never dropped her off at THE LOBBY where they said they did. By june 2nd he had seen the videos and knew they had lied.



GRACE: Commissioner, are you convinced in your heart and in your mind that this girl made it back to her hotel that night?

DERSTRATEN: Yes, but that`s the point. That`s under investigation now. And on the first day, you hope that you can find the girl together with other girls and other boys on the beach or somewhere else. The second day, you hope that again. And after three or four days, you are thinking about other things. And the investigation is...

GRACE: I have got a question for you, Commissioner. I know that the young men she was with, that she left at a disco with, say they dropped her off there at the hotel. I believe the Holiday Inn.

DERSTRATEN: Yes.

GRACE: The desk clerk did not see her come in. Could you...

DERSTRATEN: That`s correct, yes.

GRACE: Could you give me the configuration of the hotel? Would she have to walk past the desk clerk to get to her room?

DERSTRATEN: No, that`s not necessary. She can go another way, too, because she was sleeping in the third building of the hotel. She can go outside. She can go via the casinos. She can go all the way to the sleeping rooms.

I agree Dayhiker.  Basically Beth's early arrival didn't give them enough time to think up that lie.  When she caught them they said we dropped her off in front.  They couldn't change their story and say oh no we dropped her off in the back or side entrance.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Anna on July 27, 2007, 10:38:32 AM
Quote from: "the big hammer"
Goon At School: 5/30/05?

Lala'sMom writes: "...Instead, we have many people trying to confuse once again. This is the reason I asked this morning about the story that Joran said she was dead when he came to school. I think that was more hearsay and it was repeated until it became accepted fact..."

Agreed there is much confusion surrounding this point, and Paulus' evasiveness in PV doesn't help.

The report of "hit her head while swimming and drowned" was a published report, I believe in National Enquirer.  It was in print, and not an invented story.  It was reported also that this is what jvds was telling classmates.

At one point long ago, this was the subject of much discussion here.  Among the things that remained open, was whether this "drowning" report was referencing in-school discussion for Monday 5/30/05 OR Tuesday 5/31/05.

Wadlaws statement seems to be saying that goon had to visit the "nurse's office" (or in school medical facility) on both Monday AND Tuesday, because he was "sick".

.



Thank you, Hammer!


.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Pita on July 27, 2007, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
LOOKS LIKE Mr. Reality has done a little hacking overnight on the
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Date: Friday 27th of July 2007 10:12:15 AM



NOW YOU TELL ME....if this were NOT Robin's Reality...then why hack??


There's only one Reality and that's HIM.    Too bad he was caught before he had a chance to hack!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
FP comment:

#

Shango said the key to the Hague did not exist

that door to eden remains closed

until the house with the path

But not of gold
is entered

<snippity snip>

I think what Shango and Simian are saying is that a underground rave party was where the 4 went (kalpoes, jvds, nh). drugs and other vices were involved including xtc. this leads to many tangled webs as the drug dealers and polis are friendly with one another. if the “one” speaks out he will bring down the entire operation. The polis and the drug dealers have enough (or at least they hope) pull to keep the truth from coming out.

Comment by buyme | June 27, 2005, 9:49 pm
[/b]


I posted about a month ago that I thought that (sheesh, now I've got to dig for that post)
Natalee had picked in advance for a *purpose*
(insert comic drawing from Canada here)
much more siniater than a little pimp fun.....the pimps are just the procurers for the elders...pimps the *dogs* who get the scraps...sorry to sound so crass here, please excuse. BTW, Paulus is an Elder.
I think Anita is too.

I included in that post that I thought that it was for  a very select, very wealthy group, they got a souvenir to take with them....a snuff film.

Lorenzo, I also posted is not in jail because of some pot plants...he is there to protect him/keep him from chirping.?

Lorenzos' house has the basement disco /rave party room/ I also posted..what else is underground there.  Maybe the *stinky cave* where other bodies might be, both male and female...remember pervs have many differing appetites....god I know I sound like a nut case here, but I'm putting my own speculations out in space just like others.

Iv researching Shango Cult in Aruba..I came upon some very interesting voodoo like customs still practiced by the locals there....I'll find the link and repost it here. I do beleive that secret societies exsist in many cultures, they have their rituals. and BIG MONEY is almost always part of them. FEAR is the glue in these societies....

Oh crap....I'm gonna stop here until I've had a cup of coffee...I sound like a rambling idiot even to myself right now.

Destiny  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:14:18 AM
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Katysmom on July 27, 2007, 11:26:45 AM
Klaas could you please email me?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:34:41 AM
Quote from: "Katysmom"
Klaas could you please email me?

Done - but not from my hotmail account.  Hotmail is down right now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Katysmom on July 27, 2007, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Katysmom"
Klaas could you please email me?

Done - but not from my hotmail account.  Hotmail is down right now.


I sent something back to you, but from my yahoo account (not the address you have)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 11:42:16 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA


Klaas, do we know how long it will be down? TIA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tiger on July 27, 2007, 11:42:44 AM
Destiny,I think you could be right.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA


Klaas, do we know how long it will be down? TIA


No, but Red indicated that the forum won't be down all that long, maybe a few hours.  The forum will be the first thing back up, before the front page of SM.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 11:49:04 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA


Klaas, do we know how long it will be down? TIA


No, but Red indicated that the forum won't be down all that long, maybe a few hours.  The forum will be the first thing back up, before the front page of SM.


So the count down clocks time frame is when everything will be up and ready?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:50:56 AM
Quote from: "AZSunny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA


Klaas, do we know how long it will be down? TIA


No, but Red indicated that the forum won't be down all that long, maybe a few hours.  The forum will be the first thing back up, before the front page of SM.


So the count down clocks time frame is when everything will be up and ready?


Correct


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:51:07 AM
It's very slow today, isn't it?

I would have thought people would have been trying to get in all the posting they could before everything went down for a while.  :?

By the way, Klaas, you cursed me. After you told me it had been an unusually nice day in SF, it's been foggy, cold, and windy ever since.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 11:52:06 AM
Hello my Monkey mates.

So the new cage is arriving sooner than expected?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: "Tiger"
Destiny,I think you could be right.


Oh Tiger....Thank You so Much!!! I'm really a pretty well balanced person...I know my speculations sound off the wall...but I have to include my *gut feelings* along with my research, and what others have posted on many sites for the past 2 yrs.

I personaly think that the timing of lorenzos arrest on such a minor charge, (for Aruba at least)...is so that anything involving Lorenzo, including his house, is under the control of the local ALE.

Still drinking that cup of coffee...

Destiny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:58:29 AM
Regarding the new cage:

#1  Everything is getting a new look including the SM front page, Missing Persons Blog, Dana Pretzer Radio site, Shoes and the Forum

#2  Red says that the FIRST thing they will bring back up is the FORUM, that means the forum may only be down a few hours.

#3  Everything else, SM front page, MP Blog, Radio and Shoes will come back up one at at time probably in the order I posted.


I'm trying to find out exactly WHAT TIME the forum is going down tonight and will post it as soon as I know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: truthseeker2 on July 27, 2007, 12:01:58 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Regarding the new cage:

#1  Everything is getting a new look including the SM front page, Missing Persons Blog, Dana Pretzer Radio site, Shoes and the Forum

#2  Red says that the FIRST thing they will bring back up is the FORUM, that means the forum may only be down a few hours.

#3  Everything else, SM front page, MP Blog, Radio and Shoes will come back up one at at time probably in the order I posted.


I'm trying to find out exactly WHAT TIME the forum is going down tonight and will post it as soon as I know.


Will we have re-register when the cage comes back up?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 12:03:35 PM
Hody Everyone!! :D

So we get our new home tonight huh.  Guess I'll go to bed early.  pppfffttt
Maybe I'll stick around and try to beat Robots  8)

Destiny You're not a rambling idiot.  :wink:

San Thanks for the Van Der Stratten transcript from NG.  So he was already dodging things June 2nd.  Loser.  By June 2nd this crime was solved.  No doubt about it.  It was covered up.  They'll all pay someday.  Justice will come.  That's not a threat either.  Somebody said "Karma".


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 12:04:44 PM
Howdy...not hody.. Dang puuter :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 27, 2007, 12:05:27 PM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
Aruba and its officials probably spent more time blocking the investigation / monitoring the family's whereabouts / examining their every move then investigating the crime and its perpetrators.

They (ALE) all knew what happened within 2-3 days.

It was like the Hollway / Twitty family was a gerbil inside of a maze trying to reach a piece of cheese. After a while, when the gerbil finally reached the cheese, after long painstaking strides, the ALE (on the outside of the cage) would lift them by the tail and place them back at 'START.'

The family had no idea what they were up against initially.  They assumed the legal system to operate somewhat congruent to that of the USA.  It took a while to figure out that everyhting was not above board and, by that point, it may have been too late.  WOW - the thought of people inserted into the picture to intentionally misguide the family, steering them in the wrong direction, give them poor advice, distracting them on one part of the island to prevent them from seeing the truth on the opposite end of the island. CRUEL. The family was so disadvantaged from the onset - they didn't stand a chance.


And in hindsight it is so obvious.

Do you believe me or my lying eyes.

That is why it is so shocking to me  for anyone wanting to go there.

Do they really think things would be different if it had/happens to them??

The fix was on the night Beth arrived, it was nothing Beth did or said.

OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:07:04 PM
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Regarding the new cage:

#1  Everything is getting a new look including the SM front page, Missing Persons Blog, Dana Pretzer Radio site, Shoes and the Forum

#2  Red says that the FIRST thing they will bring back up is the FORUM, that means the forum may only be down a few hours.

#3  Everything else, SM front page, MP Blog, Radio and Shoes will come back up one at at time probably in the order I posted.


I'm trying to find out exactly WHAT TIME the forum is going down tonight and will post it as soon as I know.


Will we have re-register when the cage comes back up?


I don't think so.  I believe currently registered active members will be set up and you won't have to register.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 12:11:41 PM
TGIF...
------------            TGIF

---------------------                        TGIF

------------------------------------                                    TGIF

Hi Gang


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 27, 2007, 12:12:31 PM
Hi, OF


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: truthseeker2 on July 27, 2007, 12:17:06 PM
Question of the day:


Will Robots be the first poster when the renovated site comes up???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Hi, OF


Morning Everyone!!!

Peaches Sweetie...how are you feeling today?

Put you on several Prayer lists...you can NEVER have too many Prayers  :wink:

((((((((((((Peaches)))))))))))

Destiny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 27, 2007, 12:22:58 PM
Destiny, thanks so much.  You can never have too many people praying.

Are you the biker monkey?  (I'm just nosy.....a lady in my neighborhood has a beautiful candy apple red Harley and does alot of those poker run thingies.....)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Hi, OF


Morning Everyone!!!

Peaches Sweetie...how are you feeling today?

Put you on several Prayer lists...you can NEVER have too many Prayers  :wink:

((((((((((((Peaches)))))))))))

Destiny


Morning Destiny.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: blah on July 27, 2007, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Regarding the new cage:

#1  Everything is getting a new look including the SM front page, Missing Persons Blog, Dana Pretzer Radio site, Shoes and the Forum

#2  Red says that the FIRST thing they will bring back up is the FORUM, that means the forum may only be down a few hours.

#3  Everything else, SM front page, MP Blog, Radio and Shoes will come back up one at at time probably in the order I posted.


I'm trying to find out exactly WHAT TIME the forum is going down tonight and will post it as soon as I know.


what ya mean by Shoes?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 12:32:32 PM
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Question of the day:


Will Robots be the first poster when the renovated site comes up???


I would advise each Monkey refrain from beating Robots to the first post on the new site or ... be prepared to be on the receiving end of this guy's wrath.  Believe me ... Tamikosmom knows exactly what she is talking about.

Janet

JANET IS A CHEATER


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Destiny, thanks so much.  You can never have too many people praying.

Are you the biker monkey?  (I'm just nosy.....a lady in my neighborhood has a beautiful candy apple red Harley and does alot of those poker run thingies.....)


Yes I'm a motorcyclist...better be I own 5 of them :P
My main steed is a Buell...even signed by Eric Buell when he came out to my place for an event we were hosting.

Hugs...Destiny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 12:36:24 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Regarding the new cage:

#1  Everything is getting a new look including the SM front page, Missing Persons Blog, Dana Pretzer Radio site, Shoes and the Forum

#2  Red says that the FIRST thing they will bring back up is the FORUM, that means the forum may only be down a few hours.

#3  Everything else, SM front page, MP Blog, Radio and Shoes will come back up one at at time probably in the order I posted.


I'm trying to find out exactly WHAT TIME the forum is going down tonight and will post it as soon as I know.


what ya mean by Shoes?


Mrs Red has a Shoe Blog that is linked on the front page of SM.  Probably not a blog you would frequent though, LOL, unless you are into women's shoes.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 27, 2007, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Destiny, thanks so much.  You can never have too many people praying.

Are you the biker monkey?  (I'm just nosy.....a lady in my neighborhood has a beautiful candy apple red Harley and does alot of those poker run thingies.....)


Yes I'm a motorcyclist...better be I own 5 of them :P
My main steed is a Buell...even signed by Eric Buell when he came out to my place for an event we were hosting.

Hugs...Destiny


WOW.  I bet I haven't been on a motorcycle since I was in high school.  A Honda 650 at that (well, I was on the back)!  Is it a sign of midlife crisis that I really covet my neighbor's Harley?   Maybe I just need to go for a ride on the back of one and get over it!  It looks like fun....... at some point, perhaps you'll share how you ended up with 5 bikes.....  I have actually heard of Buell too!  Aren't ya impressed?  No biggie.  I listen to that country station that does alotta promos for them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 12:50:36 PM
I wish y'all would keep talking. I'm about to go to sleep in this workshop I'm in and I need a diversion.

They're comparing the House and Senate versions of the upcoming Head Start reauthorization.  

Be still my heart.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 27, 2007, 12:54:29 PM
BT, what are you having for lunch?

I used to work at the corner of Bay & Powell.  (Close to Pier 29?) I enjoyed it until the earthquake in 1979 when I saw a big concrete pillar next to my desk moving back and forth.    That was enough for me!  

Do see Lombard Street.  It's lovely in person.  Even if you just stand at the bottom and look up.  For heaven sake, don't drive it!  It's skeery!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: msmarple on July 27, 2007, 12:55:44 PM
Not Sara Lee too ...  :?   :cry:   :x

http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/stories/2007/07/27/saraleerecall_0727.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

Quote
Sara Lee is recalling whole wheat bread packaged under various brand names, including Publix, EarthGrains and Sara Lee, because it may contain small pieces of metal.

The bread was distributed in west Georgia, the Florida Panhandle, Alabama, Mississippi, parts of Tennessee, Louisiana, Arkansas and Missouri, according to a company-provided notice on the Food and Drug Administration web site.

The breads are stamped with "best before" dates between July 25 and Aug. 7 and include the code "222." All of the affected breads were produced at the company's Meridian, Miss. plant.

Products can be returned to the stores where they were purchased for a full refund. The company's customer service line is 1-800-683-3466.

Here is a list of the recalled breads, with UPC product codes.

• Colonial Wheat Sandwich, 20 oz., 5040023502

• Schnucks Wheat Sandwich, 24 oz., 2412601044

• Earthgrains Honey Wheat Berry, 5040072709

• Flavorite Wheat Sand., 20 oz., 4113002364

• Foodland Wheat Bread, 20 oz., 4130320964

• Golden Bake Wheat Bread, 20 oz., 5040008505

• Grissom's Wheat Bread, 20 oz., 5193370220

• Grissoms Wheat Sand., 24oz., 5193370300

• IGA 20oz. Wheat, 4127003695

• Great Value Split Top Bread 20 oz., 7874206274

• Great Value 24 oz. Wheat Sand., 7874228543

• Piggly Wiggly Wheat Bread 20 oz., 5040000118

• Publix Honey Wheat, 4141539095

• Publix 100% Stoneground, 4141539190

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Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 12:58:00 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
BT, what are you having for lunch?

I used to work at the corner of Bay & Powell.  (Close to Pier 29?) I enjoyed it until the earthquake in 1979 when I saw a big concrete pillar next to my desk moving back and forth.    That was enough for me!  

Do see Lombard Street.  It's lovely in person.  Even if you just stand at the bottom and look up.  For heaven sake, don't drive it!  It's skeery!


LOL, it's only 10:00 here, so I haven't considered lunch yet although it's certainly something to look forward to.  :D  

We're going to spend the afternoon sightseeing, and hope we get to Lombard Street. We're also going to try again to get at least a short ride on a cable car. I guess we'll have to see how much we can stuff into the afternoon before we come back and pack. We leave for the airport at 5:45 tomorrow morning.  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 12:59:19 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Question of the day:


Will Robots be the first poster when the renovated site comes up???


I would advise each Monkey refrain from beating Robots to the first post on the new site or ... be prepared to be on the receiving end of this guy's wrath.  Believe me ... Tamikosmom knows exactly what she is talking about.

Janet

JANET IS A CHEATER


my oh my

i step away and i see people are talking about me

 :lol:

all i can say is watch out :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: robots on July 27, 2007, 01:00:24 PM
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Question of the day:


Will Robots be the first poster when the renovated site comes up???


if he chooses to


YES  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Question of the day:


Will Robots be the first poster when the renovated site comes up???


if he chooses to


YES  8)


Bad Robtos! No, No!!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 01:04:08 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "robots"
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Question of the day:


Will Robots be the first poster when the renovated site comes up???


if he chooses to


YES  8)


Bad Robtos! No, No!!  :lol:

Ummm...that would be Robots.

This guy talking in my ear about the Congress and Senate is distracting me from the important task of posting at SM.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Peaches"
BT, what are you having for lunch?

I used to work at the corner of Bay & Powell.  (Close to Pier 29?) I enjoyed it until the earthquake in 1979 when I saw a big concrete pillar next to my desk moving back and forth.    That was enough for me!  

Do see Lombard Street.  It's lovely in person.  Even if you just stand at the bottom and look up.  For heaven sake, don't drive it!  It's skeery!


LOL, it's only 10:00 here, so I haven't considered lunch yet although it's certainly something to look forward to.  :D  

We're going to spend the afternoon sightseeing, and hope we get to Lombard Street. We're also going to try again to get at least a short ride on a cable car. I guess we'll have to see how much we can stuff into the afternoon before we come back and pack. We leave for the airport at 5:45 tomorrow morning.  :shock:


Peaches, an old boyfriend in college had a Honda, too.  He came to pick up the helmet he bought for me when we broke up... :roll:  DH had Penton, dirtbike but sold before we went out.

BT, you still have plenty of time to sightsee...Lombard & cable car...packing can wait since you aren't flying home until tomorrow...jmho  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Peaches"
BT, what are you having for lunch?

I used to work at the corner of Bay & Powell.  (Close to Pier 29?) I enjoyed it until the earthquake in 1979 when I saw a big concrete pillar next to my desk moving back and forth.    That was enough for me!  

Do see Lombard Street.  It's lovely in person.  Even if you just stand at the bottom and look up.  For heaven sake, don't drive it!  It's skeery!


LOL, it's only 10:00 here, so I haven't considered lunch yet although it's certainly something to look forward to.  :D  

We're going to spend the afternoon sightseeing, and hope we get to Lombard Street. We're also going to try again to get at least a short ride on a cable car. I guess we'll have to see how much we can stuff into the afternoon before we come back and pack. We leave for the airport at 5:45 tomorrow morning.  :shock:


Peaches, an old boyfriend in college had a Honda, too.  He came to pick up the helmet he bought for me when we broke up... :roll:  DH had Penton, dirtbike but sold before we went out.

BT, you still have plenty of time to sightsee...Lombard & cable car...packing can wait since you aren't flying home until tomorrow...jmho  :D


We're gonna do our best. It's been VERY crowded here, so it's been kind of hard to get to some stuff.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 01:16:36 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Destiny, thanks so much.  You can never have too many people praying.

Are you the biker monkey?  (I'm just nosy.....a lady in my neighborhood has a beautiful candy apple red Harley and does alot of those poker run thingies.....)


Yes I'm a motorcyclist...better be I own 5 of them :P
My main steed is a Buell...even signed by Eric Buell when he came out to my place for an event we were hosting.

Hugs...Destiny

You own 5 motercycles?  That is some serious riding you do. :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 01:18:38 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Peaches"
BT, what are you having for lunch?

I used to work at the corner of Bay & Powell.  (Close to Pier 29?) I enjoyed it until the earthquake in 1979 when I saw a big concrete pillar next to my desk moving back and forth.    That was enough for me!  

Do see Lombard Street.  It's lovely in person.  Even if you just stand at the bottom and look up.  For heaven sake, don't drive it!  It's skeery!


LOL, it's only 10:00 here, so I haven't considered lunch yet although it's certainly something to look forward to.  :D  

We're going to spend the afternoon sightseeing, and hope we get to Lombard Street. We're also going to try again to get at least a short ride on a cable car. I guess we'll have to see how much we can stuff into the afternoon before we come back and pack. We leave for the airport at 5:45 tomorrow morning.  :shock:


Peaches, an old boyfriend in college had a Honda, too.  He came to pick up the helmet he bought for me when we broke up... :roll:  DH had Penton, dirtbike but sold before we went out.

BT, you still have plenty of time to sightsee...Lombard & cable car...packing can wait since you aren't flying home until tomorrow...jmho  :D


We're gonna do our best. It's been VERY crowded here, so it's been kind of hard to get to some stuff.


Push through the crowds like Klaas does.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 01:19:56 PM
Hi gang

sorry about that post & run...
The never of some bosses walking into your office and asking you for something work related.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 01:20:12 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Peaches"
BT, what are you having for lunch?

I used to work at the corner of Bay & Powell.  (Close to Pier 29?) I enjoyed it until the earthquake in 1979 when I saw a big concrete pillar next to my desk moving back and forth.    That was enough for me!  

Do see Lombard Street.  It's lovely in person.  Even if you just stand at the bottom and look up.  For heaven sake, don't drive it!  It's skeery!


LOL, it's only 10:00 here, so I haven't considered lunch yet although it's certainly something to look forward to.  :D  

We're going to spend the afternoon sightseeing, and hope we get to Lombard Street. We're also going to try again to get at least a short ride on a cable car. I guess we'll have to see how much we can stuff into the afternoon before we come back and pack. We leave for the airport at 5:45 tomorrow morning.  :shock:


Peaches, an old boyfriend in college had a Honda, too.  He came to pick up the helmet he bought for me when we broke up... :roll:  DH had Penton, dirtbike but sold before we went out.

BT, you still have plenty of time to sightsee...Lombard & cable car...packing can wait since you aren't flying home until tomorrow...jmho  :D


We're gonna do our best. It's been VERY crowded here, so it's been kind of hard to get to some stuff.


Push through the crowds like Klaas does.


I don't have those pointy shoes.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 01:21:14 PM
The never ??  how about nerve  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 01:21:32 PM
No one has commented on Day 3 of the sock monkey adventures. What did y'all think of that big old Darth Vader at the Lucas office building?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Destiny, thanks so much.  You can never have too many people praying.

Are you the biker monkey?  (I'm just nosy.....a lady in my neighborhood has a beautiful candy apple red Harley and does alot of those poker run thingies.....)


Yes I'm a motorcyclist...better be I own 5 of them :P
My main steed is a Buell...even signed by Eric Buell when he came out to my place for an event we were hosting.

Hugs...Destiny


Quick Buell story.  A few years ago when Buells first came out a good buddy of mine bought one and got an invitation to tour the Buell plant and meet Eric Buell.  He rode his Buell up to Wisconsin and when he pulled into the Buell plant he saw a small crowd of people along with Eric Buell so he rode over by them.  When he got off his bike he had one of those “duh” moments and forgot to put the stand down.  As he put it “down went my bike in front of Eric, God and the whole rest of the world”.  Tore off his mirror, ripped the handgrip up and did some minor damage to his clutch handle.  

Like a trooper he went on with the tour and unbeknownst to him, while he was in the plant, Eric Buell had some plant employees wheel the bike in and repair everything.  Now that’s class!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 01:22:52 PM
Who wants to hear my theory on Lorenzo? and why he is still in jail.

I think I have something here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Who wants to hear my theory on Lorenzo? and why he is still in jail.

I think I have something here.


Me Me Me !!!!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 01:24:42 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Hi gang

sorry about that post & run...
The never of some bosses walking into your office and asking you for something work related.  :lol:


Dontcha just hate it when work interferes with your fun?   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 01:25:02 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Rob"
Who wants to hear my theory on Lorenzo? and why he is still in jail.

I think I have something here.


Me Me Me !!!!  :D


Anyone else or should I just email BT?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 27, 2007, 01:25:57 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Rob"
Who wants to hear my theory on Lorenzo? and why he is still in jail.

I think I have something here.


Me Me Me !!!!  :D


Me too.  Me too.  Me too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 27, 2007, 01:26:28 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Rob"
Who wants to hear my theory on Lorenzo? and why he is still in jail.

I think I have something here.


Me Me Me !!!!  :D


Anyone else or should I just email BT?


Of course I do..

OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 01:26:55 PM
ok Ladees... give me a sec to type it all out....

I think this is the real reason.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:28:06 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Who wants to hear my theory on Lorenzo? and why he is still in jail.

I think I have something here.


ME


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Katysmom on July 27, 2007, 01:28:56 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Rob"
Who wants to hear my theory on Lorenzo? and why he is still in jail.

I think I have something here.


Me Me Me !!!!  :D


Anyone else or should I just email BT?


We all want to hear!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 01:29:23 PM
Hand in the air... waving

and trying to avoid the boss   :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 27, 2007, 01:29:49 PM
I wasn't here at SM in the beginning, so I don't know the date the discussion began on Natalee.

I have gotten back to June 8th and found this.

what will they have on cnn? i really hope they address WHY THE HECK these three slimy little brats are not locked up and their crooked father also! the government needs to make an example — i thikn this coverup is bigger than any of us think…

Comment by marie from maine | June 8, 2005, 5:54 pm

OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Katysmom on July 27, 2007, 01:30:29 PM
While we're waiting for Rob's theory.....My Monkey t-shirt just arrived in the mail!  I love it.   :D  :)  :lol:  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:35:31 PM
Today the Centrale Bank van Aruba publishes its 2006 Annual Report. The statement by the
President, which is also included in this report, is presented below.


http://www.cbaruba.org/cba/readBlob.do?id=1071


(snipped)

After a subdued performance in 2005, activities in the tourism sector turned negative in
2006, as both stay-over visitors and their nights spent on Aruba fell by 5 percent and 4
percent, respectively, compared to a slight 1 percent rise in 2005
. The Aruba Tourism
Authority attributes this contraction to increased hotel rates in combination with a decline
in room availability during 2006, due to renovations and upgradings. Higher airfares
caused by a rise in fuel costs also had a negative impact. The performance in the cruise
tourism industry was more upbeat. Cruise passenger arrivals and port calls rose by 7
percent and 1 percent in 2006, respectively, following a decline of 4 percent and 2
percent in 2005. In total, almost 1.3 million stay-over and cruise tourists visited Aruba in 2006. Fortunately, the period December 2006 through February 2007 showed a positive
recovery in stay-over arrivals.

The sluggish performance in the tourism sector was also reflected in a 2 percent decline
in registered gross tourism receipts, compared to 2005, when a 4 percent increase was
registered. Conseque ntly, the contribution of tourism receipts to the current account
receipts of the balanc e of payments of the rest of the economy (excluding the oil and freezone
sectors) declined to 74 percent, 4 percentage points lower than in 2005
. Therefore,
the partial offsetting effect of the tourism sector income vis-à-vis the large other current
account outflows of the rest of the economy became smaller and, thus, contributed to a
further deterioration of the current account balance of the rest of the economy.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 01:35:39 PM
When Lorenzo was busted I found a comment on 24 ORA that said the pot was bound for Holland. I assume this includes the Winklaars and the other guy busted.

Total plants 984. It was not for the locals. This was Nederweed.

It was from seeds that came from Holland and pot doesn't grow very well in Holland unless it's under lamps in a hydroponic situation.

As we all know Lorenzo's nickname is Xtacy.

KLM runs drugs back and forth. It's a two way street. Drugs go both ways.

KLM employees have been busted in the past. KLM is the shipper of the Dutch and Belgium X to SA. Aruba is the distribution point. Then it goes further south.

Lorenzo is a middle man and he moves drugs in both directions.

Well, we all know that right? so what is new here? What that heck am I talking about?

The KLPD left Aruba the day before Lorenzo was busted. They were working directly with the ALE drug squad. They knew the bust was coming.

I believe that the KLPD has returned to Holland to round up the rest of the gang and to insure Lorenzo is not murdered he is locked up for his own protection and as a witness and suspect against those in Holland that are above him.

This is a massive drug operation that has been uncovered. Actually it didn't take alot to uncover it, all they had to do was open their frickin eyes.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
When Lorenzo was busted I found a comment on 24 ORA that said the pot was bound for Holland. I assume this includes the Winklaars and the other guy busted.

Total plants 984. It was not for the locals. This was Nederweed.

It was from seeds that came from Holland and pot doesn't grow very well in Holland unless it's under lamps in a hydroponic situation.

As we all know Lorenzo's nickname is Xtacy.

KLM runs drugs back and forth. It's a two way street. Drugs go both ways.

KLM employees have been busted in the past. KLM is the shipper of the Dutch and Belgium X to SA. Aruba is the distribution point. Then it goes further south.

Lorenzo is a middle man and he moves drugs in both directions.

Well, we all know that right? so what is new here? What that heck am I talking about?

The KLPD left Aruba the day before Lorenzo was busted. They were working directly with the ALE drug squad. They knew the bust was coming.

I believe that the KLPD has returned to Holland to round up the rest of the gang and to insure Lorenzo is not murdered he is locked up for his own protection and as a witness and suspect against those in Holland that are above him.

This is a massive drug operation that has been uncovered. Actually it didn't take alot to uncover it, all they had to do was open their frickin eyes.


ROB - very possible, good summation.  Now we need to figure out how Lorenzo ties into the NH case because I'm certain he does.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 01:44:28 PM
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12
Comment by Shango | June 27, 2005, 9:48 pm


From Aru-bay video 11:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/Southern_belle1960/7minspastmidnight.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Who wants to hear my theory on Lorenzo? and why he is still in jail.

I think I have something here.


ME   me...me....hand waving in the crowd....puleeze tell me  :D

Dest


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 01:47:12 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys!

Very plausible theory Rob.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: "Kermit"
Babalu knew who dirty hand was at half past 12
Comment by Shango | June 27, 2005, 9:48 pm


From Aru-bay video 11:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d110/Southern_belle1960/7minspastmidnight.jpg)


Ribbit


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Katysmom on July 27, 2007, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
When Lorenzo was busted I found a comment on 24 ORA that said the pot was bound for Holland. I assume this includes the Winklaars and the other guy busted.

Total plants 984. It was not for the locals. This was Nederweed.

It was from seeds that came from Holland and pot doesn't grow very well in Holland unless it's under lamps in a hydroponic situation.

As we all know Lorenzo's nickname is Xtacy.

KLM runs drugs back and forth. It's a two way street. Drugs go both ways.

KLM employees have been busted in the past. KLM is the shipper of the Dutch and Belgium X to SA. Aruba is the distribution point. Then it goes further south.

Lorenzo is a middle man and he moves drugs in both directions.

Well, we all know that right? so what is new here? What that heck am I talking about?

The KLPD left Aruba the day before Lorenzo was busted. They were working directly with the ALE drug squad. They knew the bust was coming.

I believe that the KLPD has returned to Holland to round up the rest of the gang and to insure Lorenzo is not murdered he is locked up for his own protection and as a witness and suspect against those in Holland that are above him.

This is a massive drug operation that has been uncovered. Actually it didn't take alot to uncover it, all they had to do was open their frickin eyes.


Rob, are you saying the KLPD was there for a drug investigation and not for Natalee???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 01:47:47 PM
Klaas- I haven't seen anything yet to suggest this arrest has anything to do with Natalee. Actually none of us have. We just don't know yet.

I think Lorenzo being in jail this long is an indication that something larger is in the works that might have nothing to do with Natalee.

I believe he could be involved in her case also, but I don't see anything yet. And the fact that he had no guns at his house leads me to believe that he is involved in something that we can't exactly put our finger on just yet.

We should know shortly what is charges really are.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 01:49:20 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Good afternoon Monkeys!

Very plausible theory Rob.


Howdy Shadow.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 01:49:43 PM
Does anyone here rmember if it was Shango or Simian that referenced smoking genetically altered nederweed??? Rob's post just made me recall something in one of their posts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 01:50:02 PM
Quote from: "Katysmom"
Rob, are you saying the KLPD was there for a drug investigation and not for Natalee???

Katysmom-
They said they were there for Natalee and Namdar. So I'm not sure that is all. They certainly won't announce that they are interested in Lorenzo.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 01:50:32 PM
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3594/arubay36friendna7.jpg)
Aru-bay video 6 - WHO IS THIS MAN?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good afternoon Monkeys!

Very plausible theory Rob.


Howdy Shadow.


Hey there BT! Hows San Fran?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 01:50:51 PM
Sorry, that is video 36.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Klaas- I haven't seen anything yet to suggest this arrest has anything to do with Natalee. Actually none of us have. We just don't know yet.

I think Lorenzo being in jail this long is an indication that something larger is in the works that might have nothing to do with Natalee.

I believe he could be involved in her case also, but I don't see anything yet. And the fact that he had no guns at his house leads me to believe that he is involved in something that we can't exactly put our finger on just yet.

We should know shortly what is charges really are.


I am suggesting that the drug and porn industry in Aruba do have some link to what happened to Natalee.  Maybe not directly but indirectly.  I also believe that it's very possible that either a live or dead Natalee was at Lorenzo's at some point.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 01:52:48 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Does anyone here rmember if it was Shango or Simian that referenced smoking genetically altered nederweed??? Rob's post just made me recall something in one of their posts.


Ed Smit said that EXACTLY!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Klaas- I haven't seen anything yet to suggest this arrest has anything to do with Natalee. Actually none of us have. We just don't know yet.

I think Lorenzo being in jail this long is an indication that something larger is in the works that might have nothing to do with Natalee.

I believe he could be involved in her case also, but I don't see anything yet. And the fact that he had no guns at his house leads me to believe that he is involved in something that we can't exactly put our finger on just yet.

We should know shortly what is charges really are.


I am suggesting that the drug and porn industry in Aruba do have some link to what happened to Natalee.  Maybe not directly but indirectly.  I also believe that it's very possible that either a live or dead Natalee was at Lorenzo's at some point.


I agree that there would be a connection between the two worlds. Or maybe exposing one would uncover something more sinister in the other.??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 01:55:20 PM
With all the recent drug busts, I'm sure life on Aruba is very unbearable for some losing their source of drugs.  Plus with all the other crapola going on in ARuba, no wonder Arubans dislike Americans so much lately.  Aruba truly is FUBARUBA.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 01:55:39 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "shadow"
Does anyone here rmember if it was Shango or Simian that referenced smoking genetically altered nederweed??? Rob's post just made me recall something in one of their posts.


Ed Smit said that EXACTLY!!!!


Who is Ed Smit? TIA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 01:55:58 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Does anyone here rmember if it was Shango or Simian that referenced smoking genetically altered nederweed??? Rob's post just made me recall something in one of their posts.


Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:05 pm
Don’t try and hack the Simian. We smoke Nederweed. Genetically enigineered.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: truthseeker2 on July 27, 2007, 01:56:16 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Does anyone here rmember if it was Shango or Simian that referenced smoking genetically altered nederweed??? Rob's post just made me recall something in one of their posts.


This may be the post you are thinking of:

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:05 pm
Don’t try and hack the Simian. We smoke Nederweed. Genetically enigineered.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: truthseeker2 on July 27, 2007, 01:57:38 PM
Quote from: "Kermit"
Quote from: "shadow"
Does anyone here rmember if it was Shango or Simian that referenced smoking genetically altered nederweed??? Rob's post just made me recall something in one of their posts.


Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:05 pm
Don’t try and hack the Simian. We smoke Nederweed. Genetically enigineered.


Kermit is fast on the post!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 01:57:50 PM
ribbit Ms. Tamikosmom good to see you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 01:57:53 PM
that's the post I was thinking of  . . . Thanks Kermit & Truth


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 01:57:59 PM
Could be Rob...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
that's the post I was thinking of  . . . Thanks Kermit & Truth


ribbit


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 01:58:57 PM
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Quote from: "Kermit"
Quote from: "shadow"
Does anyone here rmember if it was Shango or Simian that referenced smoking genetically altered nederweed??? Rob's post just made me recall something in one of their posts.


Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:05 pm
Don’t try and hack the Simian. We smoke Nederweed. Genetically enigineered.


Kermit is fast on the post!


I'm a hopper.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:00:01 PM
Ed Smit is the guy that filmed the Aru-Bay videos.

Some idiot fell into a trap I laid on my site and gave me his address, does anyone want that info? I can retrieve it ....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: truthseeker2 on July 27, 2007, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: "Kermit"
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Quote from: "Kermit"
Quote from: "shadow"
Does anyone here rmember if it was Shango or Simian that referenced smoking genetically altered nederweed??? Rob's post just made me recall something in one of their posts.


Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:05 pm
Don’t try and hack the Simian. We smoke Nederweed. Genetically enigineered.


Kermit is fast on the post!


I'm a hopper.


 :lol: Believe it or not I used to be.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 02:00:25 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Klaas- I haven't seen anything yet to suggest this arrest has anything to do with Natalee. Actually none of us have. We just don't know yet.

I think Lorenzo being in jail this long is an indication that something larger is in the works that might have nothing to do with Natalee.

I believe he could be involved in her case also, but I don't see anything yet. And the fact that he had no guns at his house leads me to believe that he is involved in something that we can't exactly put our finger on just yet.

We should know shortly what is charges really are.


I am suggesting that the drug and porn industry in Aruba do have some link to what happened to Natalee.  Maybe not directly but indirectly.  I also believe that it's very possible that either a live or dead Natalee was at Lorenzo's at some point.


I agree that there would be a connection between the two worlds. Or maybe exposing one would uncover something more sinister in the other.??


YESSSSSSSSSSSS...I agree on the more sinsister angle also...too much fear on a whole island.
Something that has been going on for a very long time...not just in Aruba either....

Dest


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:01:16 PM
Also I believe that Grande is right Simian is Clyde Burke... which means we have a stoned cop here. And possibly part of the gang!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 02:01:57 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Ed Smit is the guy that filmed the Aru-Bay videos.

Some idiot fell into a trap I laid on my site and gave me his address, does anyone want that info? I can retrieve it ....


Thanks Rob! I knew the name sounded familiar. very interesting


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 02:02:59 PM
The photographer pans down
the camera at an angle (I think because of the way the terrain is and they
have walked across a small bridge structure and then down an incline area
then suddenly there is the feet and clothing of the cameraman wearing
jeans and barefoot:

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8113/arubayvideo24footbn5.jpg)


(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8440/photographersfootpb0.png)

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3431/footcomparisonim7.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:03:02 PM
OMG- I know who that guy is Kerm... It just hit me... it's Ed's brother.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:04:04 PM
I'm gonna get the post the idiot made...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 02:05:11 PM
Peaches

I believe in miracles, I believe in your miracle.
Just letting you know - you are in my heart and in my prayers.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Also I believe that Grande is right Simian is Clyde Burke... which means we have a stoned cop here. And possibly part of the gang!!!


ROB - FWIF, Grande and I were working together to determine the identity of Simian.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 02:06:53 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
OMG- I know who that guy is Kerm... It just hit me... it's Ed's brother.


Was it ever determined why these two brothers made the videos? I know there has been a lot of speculation, just curious to hear what everyone thinks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:07:16 PM
mythbuster said-
 First, I don't have to prove anything to YOU. But I will post some so that others can see why you are not correct.

Let me start by saying that common sense should tell us that the Director of the Chamber of Commerce for Aruba is not Ed's stated age of 34, nor is he likely recording Enigma-like music nor was he filming on the Tattoo.

Also strange is that Edwin Roos lives at Boonchi Strenastraat 11, not Boonchi Strenastraat 8 with his so called lovely wife Yolande. Even more strange is that Edwin "Ed Smith" Roos would allow his lovely wife to live with "Smit, Willem" of Boonchi Strenastraat 8 and his two sons, both of whose first names start with E and whose last name is Smit (i.e., Smith, English equivalent), one of which is 32 and one of which is 34.

Jamie Skeeter had all this information, including contact info and the real name of Ed Smith, before his death and I am sure his associates are not chasing Edwin Roos around looking for answers.

April 28, 2007 1:07 PM


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:08:33 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Also I believe that Grande is right Simian is Clyde Burke... which means we have a stoned cop here. And possibly part of the gang!!!


ROB - FWIF, Grande and I were working together to determine the identity of Simian.


duly noted!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Also I believe that Grande is right Simian is Clyde Burke... which means we have a stoned cop here. And possibly part of the gang!!!


ROB - FWIF, Grande and I were working together to determine the identity of Simian.

Great job by both.

I think you were a detective in another life.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Today the Centrale Bank van Aruba publishes its 2006 Annual Report. The statement by the
President, which is also included in this report, is presented below.


http://www.cbaruba.org/cba/readBlob.do?id=1071


(snipped)

After a subdued performance in 2005, activities in the tourism sector turned negative in
2006, as both stay-over visitors and their nights spent on Aruba fell by 5 percent and 4
percent, respectively, compared to a slight 1 percent rise in 2005
. The Aruba Tourism
Authority attributes this contraction to increased hotel rates in combination with a decline
in room availability during 2006, due to renovations and upgradings. Higher airfares
caused by a rise in fuel costs also had a negative impact. The performance in the cruise
tourism industry was more upbeat. Cruise passenger arrivals and port calls rose by 7
percent and 1 percent in 2006, respectively, following a decline of 4 percent and 2
percent in 2005. In total, almost 1.3 million stay-over and cruise tourists visited Aruba in 2006. Fortunately, the period December 2006 through February 2007 showed a positive
recovery in stay-over arrivals.

The sluggish performance in the tourism sector was also reflected in a 2 percent decline
in registered gross tourism receipts, compared to 2005, when a 4 percent increase was
registered. Conseque ntly, the contribution of tourism receipts to the current account
receipts of the balanc e of payments of the rest of the economy (excluding the oil and freezone
sectors) declined to 74 percent, 4 percentage points lower than in 2005
. Therefore,
the partial offsetting effect of the tourism sector income vis-à-vis the large other current
account outflows of the rest of the economy became smaller and, thus, contributed to a
further deterioration of the current account balance of the rest of the economy.




I am shocked, Klaas. Why, this goes against everything the posters in Aruba have been telling us the last year. They said tourism was booming.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: truthseeker2 on July 27, 2007, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Today the Centrale Bank van Aruba publishes its 2006 Annual Report. The statement by the
President, which is also included in this report, is presented below.


http://www.cbaruba.org/cba/readBlob.do?id=1071


(snipped)

After a subdued performance in 2005, activities in the tourism sector turned negative in
2006, as both stay-over visitors and their nights spent on Aruba fell by 5 percent and 4
percent, respectively, compared to a slight 1 percent rise in 2005
. The Aruba Tourism
Authority attributes this contraction to increased hotel rates in combination with a decline
in room availability during 2006, due to renovations and upgradings. Higher airfares
caused by a rise in fuel costs also had a negative impact. The performance in the cruise
tourism industry was more upbeat. Cruise passenger arrivals and port calls rose by 7
percent and 1 percent in 2006, respectively, following a decline of 4 percent and 2
percent in 2005. In total, almost 1.3 million stay-over and cruise tourists visited Aruba in 2006. Fortunately, the period December 2006 through February 2007 showed a positive
recovery in stay-over arrivals.

The sluggish performance in the tourism sector was also reflected in a 2 percent decline
in registered gross tourism receipts, compared to 2005, when a 4 percent increase was
registered. Conseque ntly, the contribution of tourism receipts to the current account
receipts of the balanc e of payments of the rest of the economy (excluding the oil and freezone
sectors) declined to 74 percent, 4 percentage points lower than in 2005
. Therefore,
the partial offsetting effect of the tourism sector income vis-à-vis the large other current
account outflows of the rest of the economy became smaller and, thus, contributed to a
further deterioration of the current account balance of the rest of the economy.




I am shocked, Klaas. Why, this goes against everything the posters in Aruba have been telling us the last year. They said tourism was booming.


That booming they are taliking about is actually the implosion.  Both sound about the same.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 02:14:27 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
With all the recent drug busts, I'm sure life on Aruba is very unbearable for some losing their source of drugs.  Plus with all the other crapola going on in ARuba, no wonder Arubans dislike Americans so much lately.  Aruba truly is FUBARUBA.


I would still imagine the drugs from south America are still flowing through aruba.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 02:15:10 PM
I'm off to do some sightseeing.  :D

You monkeys have a good afternoon!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 02:15:50 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
When Lorenzo was busted I found a comment on 24 ORA that said the pot was bound for Holland. I assume this includes the Winklaars and the other guy busted.

Total plants 984. It was not for the locals. This was Nederweed.

It was from seeds that came from Holland and pot doesn't grow very well in Holland unless it's under lamps in a hydroponic situation.

As we all know Lorenzo's nickname is Xtacy.

KLM runs drugs back and forth. It's a two way street. Drugs go both ways.

KLM employees have been busted in the past. KLM is the shipper of the Dutch and Belgium X to SA. Aruba is the distribution point. Then it goes further south.

Lorenzo is a middle man and he moves drugs in both directions.

Well, we all know that right? so what is new here? What that heck am I talking about?

The KLPD left Aruba the day before Lorenzo was busted. They were working directly with the ALE drug squad. They knew the bust was coming.

I believe that the KLPD has returned to Holland to round up the rest of the gang and to insure Lorenzo is not murdered he is locked up for his own protection and as a witness and suspect against those in Holland that are above him.

This is a massive drug operation that has been uncovered. Actually it didn't take alot to uncover it, all they had to do was open their frickin eyes.


ROB - very possible, good summation.  Now we need to figure out how Lorenzo ties into the NH case because I'm certain he does.


Klaas ... I agree.  Considering Lorenzo's drug activities has been known on the Island prior to Natalee Holloway going missing ... I speculate that his recent/current detainment pertaining to drug issues is just a smokescreen in an attempt to obscure his involvement in the Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

I contend that Joran, Deepak, Satish, Steve, Paulus, Geoffrey, Guido, Freddy and Lorenzo all participated to some extent in the events that encompass the morning that Natalee Holloway went missing.  I suspect that detainment of these suspects has provided those involved in the coverup in the Natalee Holloway investigation an opportunity to get stories straight/consistent prior to closing the file or ... deeming it a cold case.

Janet
+++++++++++++++

Joran, Deepak, Satish, Steve Croes and Paulus
FOX NEWS
June 24, 2005


Joran van der Sloot (search) and his friends Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are being held under suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

A fourth man, party boat DJ Steve Croes, is being held under the same conditions.

The fifth man, Paul van der Sloot (search) — the father of 17-year-old Joran — was being held on suspicion of complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. Under the Aruban system, complicity is a lesser charge.


Geoffrey van Cromvoirt (GVC)
ABC NEWS
April 24, 2006


Geoffrey van Cromvoirt, 19, has been released into the custody of his parents after spending more than a week in an Aruba jail on suspicion of "criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance" of Natalee Holloway.


Guildo Wever
FOX NEWS
May 22, 2006


Guido Wever, an Aruba national, is expected to face charges Tuesday in a Dutch courtroom connection with the disappearance of the high school senior. Wever's lawyer, Gerard Spong was expected to file a suit Monday to prevent his extradition to the Caribbean island on charges of "assisting in the murder, heavy battery and kidnapping" of the teen.


Helen Lejuez - Family's Aruban Attorney
Benvinda de Souza - Family's Aruban Attorney
At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera
August 27, 2005


BENVINDA DE SOUZA - ATTORNEY : The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers has also been arrested. The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 02:22:14 PM
Thanks for this reminder Janet.......this snip tells it all. It tells us exactly what the PIMPS have been up to, and it tells us that authorities are fully aware. Remember Freddie was released very soon after his arrest......

++++++++++++++

Helen Lejuez - Family's Aruban Attorney
Benvinda de Souza - Family's Aruban Attorney
At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera
August 27, 2005

BENVINDA DE SOUZA - ATTORNEY : The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers has also been arrested. The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 02:22:55 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
With all the recent drug busts, I'm sure life on Aruba is very unbearable for some losing their source of drugs.  Plus with all the other crapola going on in ARuba, no wonder Arubans dislike Americans so much lately.  Aruba truly is FUBARUBA.


I would still imagine the drugs from south America are still flowing through aruba.


Sadly, you are most likely right.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"



I am shocked, Klaas. Why, this goes against everything the posters in Aruba have been telling us the last year. They said tourism was booming.


That booming they are taliking about is actually the implosion.  Both sound about the same.  :wink:



Here's some BS for you. If there were fewer rooms available why did their occupancy rate hit an all-time low in high season this year? It was 69% in May, 2007. Compared to the previous year, wouldn't the overall percentage have more readily increased if there were fewer rooms to fill?


After a subdued performance in 2005, activities in the tourism sector turned negative in
2006, as both stay-over visitors and their nights spent on Aruba fell by 5 percent and 4
percent, respectively, compared to a slight 1 percent rise in 2005. The Aruba Tourism
Authority attributes this contraction to increased hotel rates in combination with a decline
in room availability during 2006, due to renovations and upgradings.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kermit on July 27, 2007, 02:24:15 PM
(http://www.bucuticam.com/album2/Images/203.zoom2.jpg)

TOURISM IS DOWN


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Thanks for this reminder Janet.......this snip tells it all. It tells us exactly what the PIMPS have been up to, and it tells us that authorities are fully aware. Remember Freddie was released very soon after his arrest......

++++++++++++++

Helen Lejuez - Family's Aruban Attorney
Benvinda de Souza - Family's Aruban Attorney
At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera
August 27, 2005

BENVINDA DE SOUZA - ATTORNEY : The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers has also been arrested. The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers..



Yes, Freddy was released in the middle of the night.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"


Klaas ... I agree.  Considering Lorenzo's drug activities has been known on the Island prior to Natalee Holloway going missing ... I speculate that his recent/current detainment pertaining to drug issues is just a smokescreen in an attempt to obscure his involvement in the Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

I contend that Joran, Deepak, Satish, Steve, Paulus, Geoffrey, Guido, Freddy and Lorenzo all participated to some extent in the events that encompass the morning that Natalee Holloway went missing.  I suspect that detainment of these suspects has provided those involved in the coverup in the Natalee Holloway investigation an opportunity to get stories straight/consistent prior to closing the file or ... deeming it a cold case.

Janet



Big question about Lorenzo is WHY NOW? He was quickly identified as a major drug dealer over two years ago when we first heard the name.

I agree this is more than a run of the mill pot bust. They could have done that anytime.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 02:35:15 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"


Klaas ... I agree.  Considering Lorenzo's drug activities has been known on the Island prior to Natalee Holloway going missing ... I speculate that his recent/current detainment pertaining to drug issues is just a smokescreen in an attempt to obscure his involvement in the Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

I contend that Joran, Deepak, Satish, Steve, Paulus, Geoffrey, Guido, Freddy and Lorenzo all participated to some extent in the events that encompass the morning that Natalee Holloway went missing.  I suspect that detainment of these suspects has provided those involved in the coverup in the Natalee Holloway investigation an opportunity to get stories straight/consistent prior to closing the file or ... deeming it a cold case.

Janet



Big question about Lorenzo is WHY NOW? He was quickly identified as a major drug dealer over two years ago when we first heard the name.

I agree this is more than a run of the mill pot bust. They could have done that anytime.


Call me naive, but does anyone  think the investigation by KLPD turned up evidence that linked Lorenzo? I believe the pot/ and drugs were just an "excuse" to book him. Afterall I don't think these are new operations(pot/drugs hence his nicknames) therefore the fiorst times his house was searched in 2005 ALE likely saw and knew all about it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:36:19 PM
I have a question. After two years, why has the Diario learned nothing on Lorenzo?

or are they not learning on purpose?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"


Klaas ... I agree.  Considering Lorenzo's drug activities has been known on the Island prior to Natalee Holloway going missing ... I speculate that his recent/current detainment pertaining to drug issues is just a smokescreen in an attempt to obscure his involvement in the Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

I contend that Joran, Deepak, Satish, Steve, Paulus, Geoffrey, Guido, Freddy and Lorenzo all participated to some extent in the events that encompass the morning that Natalee Holloway went missing.  I suspect that detainment of these suspects has provided those involved in the coverup in the Natalee Holloway investigation an opportunity to get stories straight/consistent prior to closing the file or ... deeming it a cold case.

Janet



Big question about Lorenzo is WHY NOW? He was quickly identified as a major drug dealer over two years ago when we first heard the name.

I agree this is more than a run of the mill pot bust. They could have done that anytime.


Dayhiker ... I believe that Aruba is about to either close the file or ... deem it a cold case.  Prio to this happening ... all rumors ... inconsistencies ... have to be dispelled.

It has been rumored since day one ... that Natalee had been ... alive or deceased ... at Lorenzo's place.  There was the rumored call that originated from that area to the VDS' cell.  There was the rumor that Natalee's clothes were found in Lorenzo's basement.  There is speculation that Paulus had the school bus pick up Joran on the highway near Lorenzo's house on the morning of May 31, 2007.

I consider Lorenzo's detainment ... taking care of final details in regards to the Natalee Holloway investigation.

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 02:40:49 PM
...and Diario misspelled his name.  Who knows who to trust anymore!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kimmy53 on July 27, 2007, 02:40:49 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
I have a question. After two years, why has the Diario learned nothing on Lorenzo?

or are they not learning on purpose?


Maybe they have learned something on him, and decided to back off...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:43:21 PM
Quote from: "Leslie"
...and Diario misspelled his name.  Who knows who to trust anymore!


I hear that Leslie... so true so true...so few words make the post of the day in my book.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 02:43:40 PM
They found Anita's ancestors:


Giant wombat bone found in Australia

Fri Jul 27, 1:18 AM ET

SYDNEY (AFP) - Scientists in Australia announced Friday they had found the jawbone of a giant wombat the size of a large car that lived 20,000-40,000 years ago


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 27, 2007, 02:44:15 PM
Find out jvds earns his gambling money.

I know someone that went to Vegas, free air, free rooms, free tournaments, free food for 10 days. stayed at Harrah's.

He came home and owed his credit cards $10,000.00.

Yea, everything was free all right..BS

OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 27, 2007, 02:45:00 PM
...and what is the big secret about who Lorenzo's mothers new husband is?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
I have a question. After two years, why has the Diario learned nothing on Lorenzo?

or are they not learning on purpose?


Seems like no one wanted to say anything about him since the very beginning. All very hush hush and mysterious about Lorenzo.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 27, 2007, 02:48:42 PM
Find out "how".

OS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "Leslie"
...and Diario misspelled his name.  Who knows who to trust anymore!


I hear that Leslie... so true so true...so few words make the post of the day in my book.


It's not just Diario..Another paper was calling him Van Rien :roll: Tito early in the case was mentioning someone called Lorenzo Wever :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 02:49:01 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
They found Anita's ancestors:


Giant wombat bone found in Australia

Fri Jul 27, 1:18 AM ET

SYDNEY (AFP) - Scientists in Australia announced Friday they had found the jawbone of a giant wombat the size of a large car that lived 20,000-40,000 years ago


I was emailed another photo of Charlierat today.  Actually it's a hairless Mole-Rat.  Thought maybe CR would like to use one of these pictures for his avatar  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/MoleRat2.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
They found Anita's ancestors:


Giant wombat bone found in Australia

Fri Jul 27, 1:18 AM ET

SYDNEY (AFP) - Scientists in Australia announced Friday they had found the jawbone of a giant wombat the size of a large car that lived 20,000-40,000 years ago


 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Today the Centrale Bank van Aruba publishes its 2006 Annual Report. The statement by the
President, which is also included in this report, is presented below.


http://www.cbaruba.org/cba/readBlob.do?id=1071


(snipped)

After a subdued performance in 2005, activities in the tourism sector turned negative in
2006, as both stay-over visitors and their nights spent on Aruba fell by 5 percent and 4
percent, respectively, compared to a slight 1 percent rise in 2005
. The Aruba Tourism
Authority attributes this contraction to increased hotel rates in combination with a decline
in room availability during 2006, due to renovations and upgradings. Higher airfares
caused by a rise in fuel costs also had a negative impact. The performance in the cruise
tourism industry was more upbeat. Cruise passenger arrivals and port calls rose by 7
percent and 1 percent in 2006, respectively, following a decline of 4 percent and 2
percent in 2005. In total, almost 1.3 million stay-over and cruise tourists visited Aruba in 2006. Fortunately, the period December 2006 through February 2007 showed a positive
recovery in stay-over arrivals.

The sluggish performance in the tourism sector was also reflected in a 2 percent decline
in registered gross tourism receipts, compared to 2005, when a 4 percent increase was
registered. Conseque ntly, the contribution of tourism receipts to the current account
receipts of the balanc e of payments of the rest of the economy (excluding the oil and freezone
sectors) declined to 74 percent, 4 percentage points lower than in 2005
. Therefore,
the partial offsetting effect of the tourism sector income vis-à-vis the large other current
account outflows of the rest of the economy became smaller and, thus, contributed to a
further deterioration of the current account balance of the rest of the economy.




I am shocked, Klaas. Why, this goes against everything the posters in Aruba have been telling us the last year. They said tourism was booming.


This will keep MF and rat busy all weekend. lol

You would think the island would be swarming with touirist just wanting to see Julia, Angela, Mark, MF, cootie-rat........... *yikes*  The thought of that alone would send me in the opposite direction!  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 02:49:33 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Thanks for this reminder Janet.......this snip tells it all. It tells us exactly what the PIMPS have been up to, and it tells us that authorities are fully aware. Remember Freddie was released very soon after his arrest......

++++++++++++++

Helen Lejuez - Family's Aruban Attorney
Benvinda de Souza - Family's Aruban Attorney
At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera
August 27, 2005

BENVINDA DE SOUZA - ATTORNEY : The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers has also been arrested. The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers..



Yes, Freddy was released in the middle of the night.


Why?  What happen to the "serious" suspicions that less than one week earlier warranted Freddy's detention.

Why was he released at approximately the same time of Joran, Deepak and Satish if his detainment had no relation to the Natalee Holloway case?

Janet


Noraina Pietersz - Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005


Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.


Susan Candiotti - CNN Correspondent
NANCY GRACE
August 31, 2005


SUSAN CANDIOTTI, : And then, Nancy, something else was introduced into evidence, that the defense attorneys claim is not new, has been in the file for two months, and they can`t understand what this has to do with Natalee`s disappearance. And I`m a little uncertain about that, as well.

It involves another young man who law enforcement tells me has nothing to do with Natalee`s disappearance, who took some photographs of a 14-year- old girl, described as of a provocative nature, while Joran supposedly watched, as well as Deepak and a couple other young girls. Again, I`m not clear what this has to do with the case directly.


Diana Emerencia - Freddy's Aruban Attorney
DECATUR DAILY
August 31, 2005


ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — ...... A third man was arrested with the Kalpoes but his lawyer said Monday that it was unrelated to Holloway's disappearance.

Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, a friend of van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, was arrested on suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia.

Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, she said.

Emerencia said Zedan-Arambatzis has denied having any physical contact with the girl or taking photos of her, but has admitted to being present when the photos were taken.

The prosecutor's office declined to comment on the case.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"


Dayhiker ... I believe that Aruba is about to either close the file or ... deem it a cold case.  Prio to this happening ... all rumors ... inconsistencies ... have to be dispelled.

It has been rumored since day one ... that Natalee had been ... alive or deceased ... at Lorenzo's place.  There was the rumored call that originated from that area to the VDS' cell.  There was the rumor that Natalee's clothes were found in Lorenzo's basement.  There is speculation that Paulus had the school bus pick up Joran on the highway near Lorenzo's house on the morning of May 31, 2007.

I consider Lorenzo's detainment ... taking care of final details in regards to the Natalee Holloway investigation.

Janet



Call me an optimist Tamikosmom but I disagree on them closing the case. I am still leaning toward Lorenzo helping in the disposal in some way than the party aspect but wouldn't be suprised either way. What a better way to put the squeeze on the slumph than to take his drugs and disco away from him? Just think, if the Dutchies decide to actually enforce their laws for a change he might get some real prison time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "Leslie"
...and Diario misspelled his name.  Who knows who to trust anymore!


I hear that Leslie... so true so true...so few words make the post of the day in my book.


It's not just Diario..Another paper was calling him Van Rien :roll: Tito early in the case was mentioning someone called Lorenzo Wever :?


*******- Lorenzo is the third most notorious person on the island behind Mr Delicious and Paulus and nobody know a darn thang about him... huh????


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "Leslie"
...and Diario misspelled his name.  Who knows who to trust anymore!


I hear that Leslie... so true so true...so few words make the post of the day in my book.


I am not sure if it is on purpose or not, but spelling is a big problem. If you look at the many spellings for van der straaten, vanderstraten, van der stratten and likewise karen jansen, carin janssen etc  :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"


Call me naive, but does anyone  think the investigation by KLPD turned up evidence that linked Lorenzo? I believe the pot/ and drugs were just an "excuse" to book him. Afterall I don't think these are new operations(pot/drugs hence his nicknames) therefore the fiorst times his house was searched in 2005 ALE likely saw and knew all about it.



Lorenzo has had two years to feel all comfy about his involvement in the case. With a nic like Xtasy no doubt he had some around the house. IMO, all we heard about was the weed. There's more. BB, do you think they found some forensics first time around as was rumored and this was possibly Cohen's slip up to the media?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BUCKSHOT on July 27, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
And why is there still a blue blanket on the cliffs, to the left of the Natural Bridge, that no one will attempt to get and analyze? You can see that HERE
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h294/gummy_2006/arubasbody.jpg)

has this been debunked? i feel NH body has been destroyed. not in a bag for someone to find.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
I have a question. After two years, why has the Diario learned nothing on Lorenzo?

or are they not learning on purpose?


Rob ... when Jossy could not confirm to Dana in the last Pretzer Show whether or not Lorenzo was Joran half brother ... the same thought went through my mind.  Inquiring minds have wanted to know this answer for two years.

Maybe an affirmative answer would have legal repercussiond.

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 02:56:49 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
They found Anita's ancestors:


Giant wombat bone found in Australia

Fri Jul 27, 1:18 AM ET

SYDNEY (AFP) - Scientists in Australia announced Friday they had found the jawbone of a giant wombat the size of a large car that lived 20,000-40,000 years ago


I was emailed another photo of Charlierat today.  Actually it's a hairless Mole-Rat.  Thought maybe CR would like to use one of these pictures for his avatar  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/MoleRat2.jpg)


OMG Klaas is that the pink running thingy only now it's grown teeth!!!! YIKES   :wink:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 02:58:24 PM
Quote from: "BUCKSHOT"
And why is there still a blue blanket on the cliffs, to the left of the Natural Bridge, that no one will attempt to get and analyze? You can see that HERE (http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h294/gummy_2006/arubasbody.jpg)

has this been debunked? i feel NH body has been destroyed. not in a bag for someone to find.


Is that an old photo?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Thanks for this reminder Janet.......this snip tells it all. It tells us exactly what the PIMPS have been up to, and it tells us that authorities are fully aware. Remember Freddie was released very soon after his arrest......

++++++++++++++

Helen Lejuez - Family's Aruban Attorney
Benvinda de Souza - Family's Aruban Attorney
At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera
August 27, 2005

BENVINDA DE SOUZA - ATTORNEY : The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers has also been arrested. The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers..



Yes, Freddy was released in the middle of the night.


Why?  What happen to the "serious" suspicions that less than one week earlier warranted Freddy's detention.

Why was he released at approximately the same time of Joran, Deepak and Satish if his detainment had no relation to the Natalee Holloway case?

Janet


Two words!  Rick Smid.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 03:00:42 PM
After all the stuff that has happened with NASA lately, the Aruban Astronaut Program looks like it's becoming a reality.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Quote from: "Rob"
I have a question. After two years, why has the Diario learned nothing on Lorenzo?

or are they not learning on purpose?


Seems like no one wanted to say anything about him since the very beginning. All very hush hush and mysterious about Lorenzo.


In my theory ... Lorenzo's home plays a crucial role in the events of the morning when Natalee Holloway went missing.

TAMIKOSMOM'S THEORY

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1059&start=0


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kimmy53 on July 27, 2007, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
They found Anita's ancestors:


Giant wombat bone found in Australia

Fri Jul 27, 1:18 AM ET

SYDNEY (AFP) - Scientists in Australia announced Friday they had found the jawbone of a giant wombat the size of a large car that lived 20,000-40,000 years ago


I was emailed another photo of Charlierat today.  Actually it's a hairless Mole-Rat.  Thought maybe CR would like to use one of these pictures for his avatar  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/MoleRat2.jpg)


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 03:03:17 PM
Here is the latest from Natalee's Freebirds:



ARUBAN AUTHORITIES IMPLICATE MAIN SUSPECTS IN NATALEE HOLLOW CASE

Within one week of Natalee Holloway's disappearance on Aruban soil under suspicious circumstance - there have been posts continually submitted to various internet message boards which depict an obvious agenda - an agenda to detract from the truth, and to obscure the real issue that a perceived corrupt investigation is distancing the main suspects from implication in the events encompassing the morning of May 30, 2005 while shifting the focus on the victim and her family. Recently, the same agenda has been mirrored in the Aruban, Dutch and American media.

The following sourced quotes will reveal the truth regarding the main suspects - Paulus, Joran, Deepak and Satish - through the words of those with a foundational inside knowledge of the Natalee Holloway investigation.


A. GEROLD DOMPIG - DEPUTY CHIEF COMMISSIONER


1. Gerold Dompig stated on American Television to Rita Cosby that based on Joran's lies he was convinced that Joran, Deepak and Satish were guilty of wrongdoing.

Gerold Dompig - 'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - 11-08-05
DOMPIG: I still believe that these boys have been lying, they're still lying, and everybody knows that by now. So there's no doubt in my mind that they know something, they're guilty of something.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12187266/


2. Gerold Dompig conceded to Rita Cosby on American Television that he had stated that it was his belief that Joran, Deepak and Satish were guilty - guilty as Hell. He also believed they were involved in her disappearance.

Gerold Dompig - 'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - 11-02-05
COSBY: Do you believe, Chief—you said to me even before this interview that you believe the boys are guilty as hell. Do you believe they‘re involved in her disappearance?
DOMPIG: Yes.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9910586/from/RL.3/


3. Gerold Dompig stated on American Television to Rita Cosby that none of Joran's statements could be believed because his decarations kept changing in regards to the events of the morning of May 30, 2005 when Natalee Holloway went missing.

Gerold Dompig - 'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - 10-17-05
DOMPIG: .... Joran went back and forth with his statements, and he withdrew two statements which he had already given to us. So basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9727957/


4. Gerold Dompig conveys to Dan Abrams on American Television that Joran cannot be believed as inconsistencies abound in his official declarations.

Gerold Dompig - THE ABRAMS REPORT - 10-12-05
DOMPIG: Well, it would take me, I think, a little over two days to go over all the inconsistencies. None of the stories match up, let me put it that way. So when it comes to believing this individual, we know in which category to place him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188


5. The implications of Gerold Dompig's words to Dan Abrams on American Television are huge. He states that those within the investigation are of the opinion no other person than Joran, Deepak and Satish could be responsible for whatever happened to Natalee Holloway.

Gerold Dompig - THE ABRAMS REPORT - 10-12-05
DOMPIG: Exactly. And I go by the rule of thumb that, in the first 40 days -- as I said in a different program -- the first 40 days, law enforcement has probably also already spoken to the perpetrators. So we feel strongly that we have already spoken to them. And there's no one else outside this group that could be involved or responsible.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/


6. On American television Gerold Dompig tells Dan Abrams that every direction the Natalee Holloway investigation takes - the outcome implicates Joran, Deepak and Satish.

Gerold Dompig - THE ABRAMS REPORT - 10-12-05 DOMPIG: So sometimes people will ask us that, "Are you not tunnel-visioned? Maybe you should look at other possibilities." Of course. We did that. But we still feel that, every time you go on a path, a different path, that path leads back, comes back to these three boys.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9676188/page/2/


7. In a released statement to the Associated Press - Gerold Dompig revealed that there was an admission by one of the suspects in regards to what happened to Natalee Holloway. Dompig stated that the suspect was leading authorities to the location where this happening occurred.

Gerold Dompig - Associated Press - 06-12-05
Deputy Police Commissioner, Gerold Dompig, told The Associated Press that one of three young men arrested in the case admitted "something bad Happened" to Holloway and was leading police to the scene. Prosecutors refused to comment on Dompig's statement, and Dompig himself refused to identify which of the three young men who took Holloway to the Northern beach the night she went missing made the statement.
http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2005news/06122005/world/47255.htm


8. In the 48 Hours' interview with correspondent Troy Roberts - Gerold Dompig revealed that the investigation team was of the opinion that Joran, Deepak and Satish were all lying in regards to the Marriot Beach account of what took place on the morning when Natalee Holloway went missing.

Gerold Dompig - 48 HOURS - 03-22-06
Dompig laid out the latest scenario of what happened after Natalee was last seen driving off with van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers shortly after 1 a.m. He says investigators think the group did not go to the beach but that they possibly brought Natalie back to the van der Sloots' home.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/48hours/main1430644_page5.shtml


9. Dompig stated in interview with Bryan Burrough (Vanity Fair) that there is a possibility that something unfortunate may have happened when Joran lost his temper when Natalee resisted his advances.

Gerold Dompig - VANITY FAIR ARTICLE - 01-02-06
"The F.B.I. profiled him as a person who never has been corrected by his parents. He's the boss of what happens in that house. He's the boss in the family. He is allowed to do anything.… If a person like that is in a position where a person says, 'No,' well, that person may change completely. Maybe he blew a fuse when she wouldn't have sex with him, and something happened."
http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2006/01/natalee200601?currentPage=9


10. Gerold Dompig stated to correspondent Troy Roberts in the 48 HOURS interview that Paulus was not being forthcoming regarding his knowledge of the morning that Natalee Holloway went missing.

Gerold Dompig - 48 HOURS - 03-22-06
Dompig says he believes Paulus Van der Sloot does know more than he has been telling about the circumstances surrounding Holloway's disappearance.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/48hours/main1430644_page3.shtml


11. Gerold Dompig's words in the 48 HOURS interview with correspondent Troy Roberts imply that Paulus played an active role in concealing the remains of Natalee Holloway.

Gerold Dompig - 48 HOURS - 03-22-06
The Aruban authorities’ new theory is that someone, someone possibly very close to the young suspects, took the time to carefully hide the body, not once but maybe twice, literally re-burying her.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/22/48hours/main1430644_page4.shtml


12. Gerold Dompig's official position within ALE implies that he must have derived his words to Rita Cosby from a foundation of knowledge - Dompig states that Joran's dispicable actions towards the person of Natalee Holloway consititues a felony under Dutch law.

Gerold Dompig - 'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - 10-17-05
DOMPIG: They only went so far as to say that they fondled sexually. At least, Joran did that, and the others denied everything.
COSBY: Chief, you know, that Joran was claiming in some statement that she was gong in and out of consciousness. Have you seen that anywhere?
DOMPIG: Yes, that's definitely in the statements, and that‘s why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn‘t accept that because that‘s basically a felony in Aruba.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9727957/


B. STEVE COHEN - SPOKESPERSON FOR THE INVESTIGATION

1. Steve Cohen's function as spokesperson for the Aruban investigation into Natalee Holloway's disappearance was to proclaim the truth to the media - the truth that was derived from a foundation of knowledge.

Steve Cohen - The Strategic Communications Task Force - 12-7-05
Aruba Selects Spokesman For North America
A coalition of groups announced Friday the appointment of Steve Cohen to act as spokesperson to North American media, in regards to the Natalee Holloway disappearance case. AHATA and the ATA appointed Cohen to deal with all media relations concerning the case which still commands media coverage in the United States. Mr. Cohen has been part of the Strategic Communications Task Force since its creation in June. He has a full knowledge of the case and is an associate of the Strategic Message Design.
http://www.arubatruth.com/?p=17


2. In his address the Caribbean Marketplace that was held in San Juan, Puerto Rico - Steve Cohen reveals that two of the main suspects in the Natalee Holloway investigation had sexual relations with the eighteen year old American citizen. This is the position that Natalee's mother - Beth Holloway - has stood by since the initial stages of the investigation.

Steve Cohen - Caribbean Voice - 01-18-06
Aruba stays afloat through Natalie Holloway's investigation
By Hazel Heyer
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico ... Aruba believes it is most important to get a hold of her mental state and most importantly, Natalee's physical state at the time of disappearance. "Two of the boys said they had consensual sex with her. Whether consensual or not, depends on her ability to be conscious and make a choice," said Cohen.
http://www.caribvoice.org/travel&tourism.html


3. Steve Cohen concedes to Phil McGraw that Joran, Deepak and Satish are guilty of wrongdoing and possess an indepth knowledge of events from the early morning hours of May 30, 2005.

Steve Cohen - Dr. Phil Show - 01-29-06
Steve explains, "Forensic materials continue to be collected. I think we've got our hands on some forensic material now that may actually open up the doors to the final results of this case." Dr. Phil asks him, "From your opinion, based on what you know, do you believe that these boys are guilty of wrongdoing here?" Steve says that he does. "Do the prosecutors believe they are guilty of wrongdoing?" Steve says that they do. "Do you believe that [the boys] have available, intimate knowledge of what happened to her that night?" Again, Steve confirms that he does.
http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/3041/?id=?id=&slide=7&null=null


4. In December, 2006 - Steve Cohen informed Rita Cosby on American Television that it was the intention of Aruban officials to bring Joran, Deepak and Satish in for questioning regarding timelines and other descrepancies in their official declarations. However, the planned interrogations never took place. Joran's attorney reminded those in the investigation that the conditions of the September 2005 release - which had dictated that the suspects were to remain available for questioning - had been lifted by an Aruban court.

Steve Cohen - 'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - 12-21-05
COHEN: I do want to make the distinction for you and your audience between questioning and rearrest. This is a questioning procedure that Chief Dompig is going to go through with them because as they‘ve analyzed the timeline, they‘ve found some other discrepancies and they want to review these discrepancies with the three suspects.
COSBY: Hey, Steve, what are those discrepancies exactly?
COHEN: Well, I think it‘s mostly timeline discrepancies, Rita. As you look at their testimony and their interrogations of where they were at different times between 1:30-something in the morning and between 3:30 in the morning, these are very important two or three-hour blocks that the investigators want to review in detail.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10572846/


5. Steve Cohen shared with Phil McGraw that he felt defeated while he escorted Joran, Deepak and Satish from jail following the ruling of the Aruban court.

Steve Cohen - Dr. Phil Show - 01-29-06
"I was the guy who had to let them out," says Steve. "I opened the jail door for all three of them. It was nobody else. It was me. And my feeling was that we had lost ..."
http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/3041/?id=1&slide=8&null=null


C. KARIN JANSSEN - PROSECUTOR

1. In a telephone interview - Karin Janssen stated that Paulus obstructed the investigation but that his detainment resulted from the suspicion that he was involved in Natalee's disappearance.

Karin Janssen - Associated Press - 07-01-2005
Janssen also alleged Paul van der Sloot, a 52-year-old judge in training in Aruba, obstructed authorities' investigation by asking one of his son's friends, who had been interrogated, what he told police. But Janssen said Paul van der Sloot was detained for being a suspect in the disappearance, not for obstructing the investigation.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161294,00.html


2. The Prosecutor's office released a statement upon the rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers. The new "facts/circumstances/suspicions" that comprised that statement implied that dispicable acts were perpetuated by Deepak and Satish against the person of Natalee Holloway prior to her subsequent demise.

Also, Aruban Attorney and investigation spokesperson - Arlene Ellis-Schipper - publicly affirmed that the prosecutor must have "real, real evidence and new facts" to have arrested Deepak and Satish again.

Statement from Prosecutor's Office - CNN - 08-27-05
(CNN) -- After being detained and then released last month in Natalee Holloway's disappearance, two brothers were arrested again Friday in Aruba on suspicion they acted "together with other people" in raping and killing the Alabama teen, the prosecutor's office said. Without elaborating on the evidence, the office said in a statement that "new facts and circumstances" led them to re-arrest Satish Kalpoe, 18 and brother Deepak, 21. "They are suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately raping somebody," the statement said.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/26/aruba.arrests/index.html


Arlene Ellis-Schipper -On the Record w/Greta - August 30, 2006
ELLIS-SCHIPPER: Well, I think it's a big moment, Greta. You know, the prosecution and the investigation is moving very carefully. They don't want to make more mistakes, and they are very careful. So they must have had some real, real evidence and new facts that they felt confident enough to haul them back in. ... the investigation is moving forward and there's hope that we might go towards a trial because, at first, I was doubting whether we were even facing a trial. It shows that the police have done some good work and apparently gathered evidence, new evidence enough for to bring them back in custody..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167372,00.html


3. In a release to the Associated Press, Karin Janssen stated that various communication records were the foundation on which she was "centering" her case.

Karen Janssen - Associated Press - 07-02-05
Janssen said the prosecution was centering its case around e-mail and cell phone text messages written between the suspects the night Holloway disappeared. Janssen declined to offer further details about the messages, but said not having a body would make getting a murder conviction "more difficult but not impossible."
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050702/aruba.shtml


4. Under Aruban law there must be "serious" suspicion to warrant pre-trial detainment and suspect status. Inquiring minds would like to know what foundation the "serious" suspicions were drived from to warrant the pre-trial detainment of the suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.

Noraina Pietersz - Associated Press - 06-09-05
Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/


Joran/Deepak/Satish/Steve/Croes/Paulus - FOX NEWS - 06/24/05
Joran van der Sloot (search) and his friends Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are being held under suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder. A fourth man, party boat DJ Steve Croes, is being held under the same conditions. The fifth man, Paul van der Sloot (search) — the father of 17-year-old Joran — was being held on suspicion of complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. Under the Aruban system, complicity is a lesser charge. None of the men have been charged with a crime, but all are in police custody. An Aruban government spokesman confirmed the allegations.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160654,00.html


D. ROLAND TROMP - POLICE INTERROGATOR

Roland Tromp - Paulus' interrogator - stated to the Associated press that those within the investigation believe Joran is the prime suspect in regards to what happened to Natalee Holloway. They also contend that Paulus assisted his son after something went tragically wrong that fateful morning.

Roy Tromp - CBS NEWS - 08-05-05
Tromp said investigators believe van der Sloot, who turns 18 on Saturday, is the prime suspect and that he had some assistance from his father, Paul, an apprentice judge on the island. "We believe something went wrong with the girl, and the first person you are going to call is your daddy," said Tromp. "In this case, daddy would know exactly what to do." Tromp, who declined to provide details about exactly what investigators believe happened to Holloway, said that Paul van der Sloot has also changed his account the night Holloway vanished.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/05/world/main763210_page2.shtml


E. SPOKESPERSON - THE ARUBAN JUSTICE MINISTRY

An Aruban Ministry of Justice Spokesperson informed FOX NEWS that Natalee had been confirmed dead and the location of her body was known.

Aruban Ministry of Justice Spokesperson - FOX NEWS - 06-11-05
David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html


Rick Leventhal - FOX NEWS - 06-15-05
The next day, another official spoke to one of our producers. Edward Croues, a spokesman for the minister of justice, told Craig Rivera he had "official information" that Natalee was "confirmed dead," and told Craig her father had asked police to take him to the body and to do it before the press found out where it was. We reconfirmed the information with Croues before going on-air with it.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159664,00.html


F. SUPERIOR COURT

When Karin Janssen appealed the compensation which was awarded to Paulus for wrongful detainment - the Superior Court's ruling sided with the proscutor. It ruled that - according to tapped information and Paulus' own declaration - Paulus' detention could be considered justified.

Superior Court - Diario - 02-14-2007
The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared. Mention is made that, according to one or more official reports of the phone tap and also the declaration of Paul van der Sloot himself, that Paul fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald and took them to the Holiday Inn. Based on this information, the judicial authorities and the police had at that time a justified basis to arrest Paul van der Sloot based on different suspicions. (Translation Credit: Diario)
http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/2/14/


G. DIANE EMERENCIA - ARUBAN ATTORNEY

Diane Emerencia - Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis’ attorney - revealed that Joran, Deepak and Satish are under suspicion of involvement in a previous sexual assault which occurred prior to the disappearance of Natalee Hollowy.

Diana Emerencia - Associated Press - 08/31/05
Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said. The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, she said. Emerencia said Zedan-Arambatzis has denied having any physical contact with the girl or taking photos of her, but has admitted to being present when the photos were taken.
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050831/aruba.shtm


H. DOUG SHIPLEY - FBI

On June 10, 2005 one of the FBI agents who was on Aruba was informed that Natalee Holloway may no longer be alive and he passed that devasting news on to the family.

Doug Shipley - 'Scarborough Country' - 07-12-05
TWITTY: And that was the day that the FBI came in, Doug Shipley (ph) came in and said that the way the interrogations are unfolding, there‘s a strong possibility that Natalee may not be alive. That was huge. That was the day that—I think, Joe, everyone buried Natalee that day, on June 10.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9813596/


I. UNITED STATES REP. SPENCER BACHUS

What information was Spencer Bachus and the family privy to on June 5, 2005 that convinced them that the circumstances encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway warranted FBI involvement?

Spencer Bachus - The Birmingham News - 06-05-05
U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Vestavia Hills, said Saturday there were circumstances surrounding Holloway's disappearance that warranted the FBI being heavily involved. He declined to give details. "The circumstances were disturbing," said Bachus, who formally requested the FBI's involvement. "I can't get into it, but it's something the family is aware of. There was an immediate recognition that this was not simply a teen who wandered off."
http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/111796344124200.xml&coll=2


In conclusion, the following statement from former Aruban police commissioner Stanley Zaandam lets us know there were questionable actions from within Aruban law enforcement that possibly began the wide spread collusion by Aruban officials to protect their own.

This collusion included public Aruban figures, such as those who recently gave interviews to an Aruban newspaper – once again denigrating the family of this victim, and utilizing a public platform in an attempt to shift the focus of blame in this case.



Ex-commissioner Stanley Zaandam
Bon Dia Aruba
9/19/2005

Zaandam keeps on saying in his book, two days after 5/29, the body of Natalee H. may have already been found and Cvp [police commissioner] looked the other way to do a favour for Paul vd Sloot (ex of chief staff of Cabinet PG [prosecutor general] J. Zwinkels). To exculpate the son of Paul, the CvP and fiscal chief prosecutor Karen Jansen made the false arrest of two ex-security guards, Jones and John , called this a ‘tactical maneuver’ , and denied them their freedom for another 10 days.

__________


Natalee and her family deserve justice, and we will not let up until they have it!

Natalee’s Freebirds

http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 03:05:49 PM
Wonder who the heck those Freebirds are.  :?

Who ever they are... they are like the Rocket Scientists of this case. That's still a good thing.. I think.  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "shadow"
Quote from: "Rob"
I have a question. After two years, why has the Diario learned nothing on Lorenzo?

or are they not learning on purpose?


Seems like no one wanted to say anything about him since the very beginning. All very hush hush and mysterious about Lorenzo.


In my theory ... Lorenzo's home plays a crucial role in the events of the morning when Natalee Holloway went missing.

TAMIKOSMOM'S THEORY

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1059&start=0


Your theory is very plausible thanks for posting the link!

What if the party was at Lorenzo's and the VDS were still there when that call was made, trying to figure out how to dispose of her body and Paulus was called in to help? She very well may have been statshed at Lorenzo's house when her family arrived in Aruba. Just thinking out loud.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 03:11:19 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Wonder who the heck those Freebirds are.  :?

Who ever they are... they are like the Rocket Scientists of this case. That's still a good thing.. I think.  :)


Believe it or not I don't know who they are.  I simply receive the latest posts and post it for them here at SM.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Wonder who the heck those Freebirds are.  :?

Who ever they are... they are like the Rocket Scientists of this case. That's still a good thing.. I think.  :)
I have also wondered. I like to think they are Natalee's friends from MB.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 03:12:23 PM
What if....

Joran and the Kalpokes are not at Lorenzo's. But Paulus is????

Joran made some comment about Paulus having his mother's phone....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 03:15:41 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"


Call me naive, but does anyone  think the investigation by KLPD turned up evidence that linked Lorenzo? I believe the pot/ and drugs were just an "excuse" to book him. Afterall I don't think these are new operations(pot/drugs hence his nicknames) therefore the fiorst times his house was searched in 2005 ALE likely saw and knew all about it.



Lorenzo has had two years to feel all comfy about his involvement in the case. With a nic like Xtasy no doubt he had some around the house. IMO, all we heard about was the weed. There's more. BB, do you think they found some forensics first time around as was rumored and this was possibly Cohen's slip up to the media?


I don't remember Cohens slip specifically........but  if Natalee were there, I would think it's very possible something could be found. Maybe not forensics , but pictures? film clips? as we have talked about before, I am pretty sure that Natalee was not the first tourist girl to be taken to "party" at Lorenzo's, so possibly pics/films of others too?  I have said these many times, and it is one reason for my continuing to follow this case over the months is because I was convinced from the very first that  there was more to Natalee's disappearance than we were being told.......Freddies name was brought up early, and it was on his Tickle site that he listed among his "favorite activities", f_ _ _ ing at parties followed by his  arrest in august for what he admitted to in june..........hmmmmm we have heard little from aruba about any of this and what has come out has been retracted or never mentioned again even by Jossy.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 03:16:52 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Thanks for this reminder Janet.......this snip tells it all. It tells us exactly what the PIMPS have been up to, and it tells us that authorities are fully aware. Remember Freddie was released very soon after his arrest......

++++++++++++++

Helen Lejuez - Family's Aruban Attorney
Benvinda de Souza - Family's Aruban Attorney
At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera
August 27, 2005

BENVINDA DE SOUZA - ATTORNEY : The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers has also been arrested. The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers..



Yes, Freddy was released in the middle of the night.


Why?  What happen to the "serious" suspicions that less than one week earlier warranted Freddy's detention.

Why was he released at approximately the same time of Joran, Deepak and Satish if his detainment had no relation to the Natalee Holloway case?

Janet


Two words!  Rick Smid.


Right on Sunfreak!!!

I hope you are having a good day ... I think of you often.

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 03:18:20 PM
MF @ FOB Posted: Fri Jul 27th, 2007 05:25 am
The preliminary numbers for April 2007 shows an increase of 7.2% in tourists compared to 2006.

The Average occupancy for the two months that followed were 72.6% and 78.5%

Airport's passenger traffic saw an increase of 8.1% the first 6 months of 2007 compared to 2006.

Also the FCCA (Florida Caribbean Cruise Association) conducted an analysis by the company "Business Research and Economic Advisors" recently and named ARUBA as the number 1 destination for Cruise Tourism.

Furthermore, Aruba positioned itself as number 1 in 10 of the 12 categories analyzed.

According to data given by the CTO (Caribbean Tourism Organization), during the cruise season of 2006 (May 2005-April 2006) Aruba got 563.082 Cruise passengers of which 85% (478.620) visited the island. Also a total of 89.562 (40%) Cruise staff members also visited the island, while docked at the harbour. This generated a total of $66.200.000,- in revenue for the island.

The categories that Aruba took the number 1 position were from Best Destination, Most likely to be suggested to friends and family, Initial Welcome feeling, Best Safety, the best Habitant's hospitality and Friendliness of employees, Best Beaches, Best Shopping Experience, Better Shopping Variety, General pricing, Best Taxi services and Public Transportation.

Just for you to know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 03:18:39 PM
What is it with these hate mongers on other sites always coming out with this “Beth’s lies” crap?  Did anyone ever leave with Beth and completely disappear?  Has Beth ever given false testimony repeatedly in a missing person’s case?  Has Beth written a book stating that she is a chronic, habitual liar?

That chit wears on me at times.  They can’t address the fact that their hero is an admitted liar, so they libel Beth.  What a bunch of sick low lives!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
What is it with these hate mongers on other sites always coming out with this “Beth’s lies” crap?  Did anyone ever leave with Beth and completely disappear?  Has Beth ever given false testimony repeatedly in a missing person’s case?  Has Beth written a book stating that she is a chronic, habitual liar?

That chit wears on me at times.  They can’t address the fact that their hero is an admitted liar, so they libel Beth.  What a bunch of sick low lives!


 :smt038  :smt038  :smt038


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 03:25:44 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
What if....

Joran and the Kalpokes are not at Lorenzo's. But Paulus is????

Joran made some comment about Paulus having his mother's phone....


that is possible . . . IMO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
What is it with these hate mongers on other sites always coming out with this “Beth’s lies” crap?  Did anyone ever leave with Beth and completely disappear?  Has Beth ever given false testimony repeatedly in a missing person’s case?  Has Beth written a book stating that she is a chronic, habitual liar?

That chit wears on me at times.  They can’t address the fact that their hero is an admitted liar, so they libel Beth.  What a bunch of sick low lives!


MIP6 AND REALITY - ARE THEY PART OF THE DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1896&start=0


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 03:31:55 PM
O/T

Does everyone remember Zsa Zsa's hubby the prince?

Prince Frederic Von Anhalt, the husband of Zsa Zsa Gabor and one of the men who claimed he could be the father of Anna Nicole Smith’s baby girl, was found naked in the back seat of his car this week and told police that three women mugged him, according to NBC4.com.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291223,00.html

Why do I have the feeling there is more to this story?  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Thanks for this reminder Janet.......this snip tells it all. It tells us exactly what the PIMPS have been up to, and it tells us that authorities are fully aware. Remember Freddie was released very soon after his arrest......

++++++++++++++

Helen Lejuez - Family's Aruban Attorney
Benvinda de Souza - Family's Aruban Attorney
At Large w/ Geraldo Rivera
August 27, 2005

BENVINDA DE SOUZA - ATTORNEY : The rearrest of the Kalpoe brothers is based on the new facts and circumstances that in the course of the investigation have come forward. Freddy who is Joran’s best friend and neighbour is always with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers has also been arrested. The official charges on Freddy Zedan-Arambatzis are intentionally distribute and show sexual images of a minor; intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. I do believe he will remain in custody for quite some time. It is my understanding, that strategically he is a very important suspect along with Joran and the Kalpoe brothers..



Yes, Freddy was released in the middle of the night.


Why?  What happen to the "serious" suspicions that less than one week earlier warranted Freddy's detention.

Why was he released at approximately the same time of Joran, Deepak and Satish if his detainment had no relation to the Natalee Holloway case?

Janet


Noraina Pietersz - Defence Attorney
Associated Press
June 9, 2005


Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.


Susan Candiotti - CNN Correspondent
NANCY GRACE
August 31, 2005


SUSAN CANDIOTTI, : And then, Nancy, something else was introduced into evidence, that the defense attorneys claim is not new, has been in the file for two months, and they can`t understand what this has to do with Natalee`s disappearance. And I`m a little uncertain about that, as well.

It involves another young man who law enforcement tells me has nothing to do with Natalee`s disappearance, who took some photographs of a 14-year- old girl, described as of a provocative nature, while Joran supposedly watched, as well as Deepak and a couple other young girls. Again, I`m not clear what this has to do with the case directly.


Diana Emerencia - Freddy's Aruban Attorney
DECATUR DAILY
August 31, 2005


ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — ...... A third man was arrested with the Kalpoes but his lawyer said Monday that it was unrelated to Holloway's disappearance.

Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, a friend of van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, was arrested on suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia.

Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, she said.

Emerencia said Zedan-Arambatzis has denied having any physical contact with the girl or taking photos of her, but has admitted to being present when the photos were taken.

The prosecutor's office declined to comment on the case.


Sometimes I wonder if Freddy was brought in and threatened with these charges to make him go along with the plan.  Right after that Joran was released from prison a few days later.  Was Freddy being difficult.  I believe it was Freddy's father that got up from a meeting with Paulus and was going to leave.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Was there a power struggle between the Arambatzis family and the Van der Sloots.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 03:43:50 PM
O/T and REALLY SICK!


Ohio School Computer Tech Accused of Trying to Buy Children for Sexual Torture

(http://www.foxnews.com/images/302287/0_61_072707_JeffreyDoland.jpg)
Friday , July 27, 2007

An Ohio school computer technician with two stepchildren and a backyard swimming pool has been accused of trying to hire a woman in Miami to let him nearly drown her two daughters for his sexual pleasure.

The Green local school district in suburban Akron moved quickly to cut ties to Jeff Doland, 45, of Uniontown, following his arrest after authorities said he flew to Miami believing he was going to meet a mother who would let him "dunk" her 9- and 12-year-old daughters for $550.

Superintendent Wade Lucas said the district shut down Doland's access to district information late Wednesday as the arrest was announced by the Florida attorney general. "It is my understanding that he had no direct contact with children," Lucas said.

Doland was Green's director of technology until April, when he accepted a job with a computer company that provides technology services to the district on a contract basis. He had an office in Green Intermediate School.

Doland was jailed to await an Aug. 15 court hearing on charges that he offered to pay for the dunking during an online conversation with a Secret Service agent who had posed as a mother in an Internet chat room. After arriving in Miami on Wednesday, Doland described to another undercover agent what his intentions were, including binding the young girls underwater, authorities said.

Doland was charged with having computer pornography and promoting a sexual performance with a child. His bond initially was set at $12,500 but was raised to $1 million on Thursday at the request of a prosecutor.

Doland, appearing Thursday before Judge Fred Seraphin, asked about pleading guilty. The judge said such a plea to serious charges wasn't allowed at that stage of the legal proceedings against Doland.

No defense attorney for him was listed on jail records Thursday and no family member could be reached for comment. Messages seeking comment were left for him at jail offices and at his home, where officers with a search warrant seized computer equipment on Wednesday.

Florida authorities said that, in Internet chat-room conversations that began in April, Doland told the agent that "dunking" was his form of sexual gratification, and he claimed that he "liked watching the bubbles." He wanted to dunk the girls and then lift them from the water when they were unconscious, authorities said.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
O/T and REALLY SICK!


Ohio School Computer Tech Accused of Trying to Buy Children for Sexual Torture

Friday , July 27, 2007

An Ohio school computer technician with two stepchildren and a backyard swimming pool has been accused of trying to hire a woman in Miami to let him nearly drown her two daughters for his sexual pleasure.



What the hell is going on in this world.  Truly a sick, sick person.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kimmy53 on July 27, 2007, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
O/T and REALLY SICK!


Ohio School Computer Tech Accused of Trying to Buy Children for Sexual Torture

Friday , July 27, 2007

An Ohio school computer technician with two stepchildren and a backyard swimming pool has been accused of trying to hire a woman in Miami to let him nearly drown her two daughters for his sexual pleasure.



What the hell is going on in this world.  Truly a sick, sick person.


What a FREAK indeed.  People like this need to be drawn and quartered in the town square. :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 04:03:27 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
O/T and REALLY SICK!


Ohio School Computer Tech Accused of Trying to Buy Children for Sexual Torture

Friday , July 27, 2007

An Ohio school computer technician with two stepchildren and a backyard swimming pool has been accused of trying to hire a woman in Miami to let him nearly drown her two daughters for his sexual pleasure.



What the hell is going on in this world.  Truly a sick, sick person.


when a society is this ill... it's time for serious medicine. I suggest public executions... and none of this 20 years in jail stuff before the execution. Watch the crime rate drop when people see others with their heads rollin into a basket.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: pdh3 on July 27, 2007, 04:03:32 PM
Is the world just getting sicker and sicker?
This guy is just dispicable. And he lived with 2 children, and was working on a school campus every day. I find that terrifying.

I'm almost to the point where I think there may be no limit to the depravities some people need to give themselves a thrill. It's like none of these people ever put the brakes on their desires anymore, or even entertain the idea of limits on their sick fantasies.
I feel like the depraved are just like roaches.....multiplying and mutating constantly, immune to most forms of control..... and then they scatter when you turn on the lights.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 04:15:00 PM
TWO TV NEWS HELICOPTERS COLLIDE, CRASH WHILE COVERING CAR CHASE IN
 PHOENIX

**Watch FOX News Channel or go to http://foxnews.com for more


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
O/T and REALLY SICK!


Ohio School Computer Tech Accused of Trying to Buy Children for Sexual Torture

Friday , July 27, 2007

An Ohio school computer technician with two stepchildren and a backyard swimming pool has been accused of trying to hire a woman in Miami to let him nearly drown her two daughters for his sexual pleasure.



What the hell is going on in this world.  Truly a sick, sick person.


when a society is this ill... it's time for serious medicine. I suggest public executions... and none of this 20 years in jail stuff before the execution. Watch the crime rate drop when people see others with their heads rollin into a basket.


I was just discussing this last night with someone.  If you are given the death penalty there should only be a 2 year wait before you are executed.

Look at those two guys in Connecticut who killed that doctors family.  Instant death for them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 04:26:34 PM
Geez.  Channel 3 and channel 15 helicopters collided in the air and exploded over downtown Phoenix.  Pilot and photographer on channel 3 helicopter are dead.  I don't see how anyone survived on either copter.  They came down in Steele Park in Phoenix near Indian School Rd and 3 rd St.  There is nothing but wreckage and burnt grass in two areas in the park.  They were following a police chase of a guy who had rammed two officers with his truck, then took another truck and was running from the cops.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 04:27:26 PM
Quote from: "pdh3"
Is the world just getting sicker and sicker?
This guy is just dispicable. And he lived with 2 children, and was working on a school campus every day. I find that terrifying.

I'm almost to the point where I think there may be no limit to the depravities some people need to give themselves a thrill. It's like none of these people ever put the brakes on their desires anymore, or even entertain the idea of limits on their sick fantasies.
I feel like the depraved are just like roaches.....multiplying and mutating constantly, immune to most forms of control..... and then they scatter when you turn on the lights.

In my own opinion the internet feeds these monsters.  They are able to target some of their victims on line.  How many murders over the past ten years have we heard that are people who met on the internet.  Case in point was that young 19 year old girl in CA that was mentioned on Greta last night.  These sickos are hiding behind their computer until the time is right to strike.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 04:33:14 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "pdh3"
Is the world just getting sicker and sicker?
This guy is just dispicable. And he lived with 2 children, and was working on a school campus every day. I find that terrifying.

I'm almost to the point where I think there may be no limit to the depravities some people need to give themselves a thrill. It's like none of these people ever put the brakes on their desires anymore, or even entertain the idea of limits on their sick fantasies.
I feel like the depraved are just like roaches.....multiplying and mutating constantly, immune to most forms of control..... and then they scatter when you turn on the lights.

In my own opinion the internet feeds these monsters.  They are able to target some of their victims on line.  How many murders over the past ten years have we heard that are people who met on the internet.  Case in point was that young 19 year old girl in CA that was mentioned on Greta last night.  These sickos are hiding behind their computer until the time is right to strike.


I agree, San. The internet opens up a whole world of depravity that many of these people would have probably never been exposed to otherwise. How does one discover that they get turned on by practically drowning a  young girl anyway? The depths of their depravity disgust me! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 04:33:45 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "pdh3"
Is the world just getting sicker and sicker?
This guy is just dispicable. And he lived with 2 children, and was working on a school campus every day. I find that terrifying.

I'm almost to the point where I think there may be no limit to the depravities some people need to give themselves a thrill. It's like none of these people ever put the brakes on their desires anymore, or even entertain the idea of limits on their sick fantasies.
I feel like the depraved are just like roaches.....multiplying and mutating constantly, immune to most forms of control..... and then they scatter when you turn on the lights.

In my own opinion the internet feeds these monsters.  They are able to target some of their victims on line.  How many murders over the past ten years have we heard that are people who met on the internet.  Case in point was that young 19 year old girl in CA that was mentioned on Greta last night.  These sickos are hiding behind their computer until the time is right to strike.


We had the predators that use the net to find their victims and the haters that worship them.

It's a sick world.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: truthseeker2 on July 27, 2007, 04:34:50 PM
Klaas,

Can you tell if the person posting back in June 2005 under the name Shock the Monkey was the same person as Shango?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Geez.  Channel 3 and channel 15 helicopters collided in the air and exploded over downtown Phoenix.  Pilot and photographer on channel 3 helicopter are dead.  I don't see how anyone survived on either copter.  They came down in Steele Park in Phoenix near Indian School Rd and 3 rd St.  There is nothing but wreckage and burnt grass in two areas in the park.  They were following a police chase of a guy who had rammed two officers with his truck, then took another truck and was running from the cops.


I saw it on the news..so sad.  I don't see how anyone could survive either. :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Klaas,

Can you tell if the person posting back in June 2005 under the name Shock the Monkey was the same person as Shango?


I believe I checked and the answer is no.  I'll double check.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 04:37:17 PM
Hi Klaas

Please check your email.  Important ... at least to me.   :lol:

Thank you.

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 04:37:27 PM
MF says that all those car wrecks and bar fights we see in Aruba are American tourist.  :roll:  :lol:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Klaas,

Can you tell if the person posting back in June 2005 under the name Shock the Monkey was the same person as Shango?


I believe I checked and the answer is no.  I'll double check.


Not the same person as Shango.  Also, FWIW, I think ShocktheMonkey was a troll playing with us.  The same person as Shock (same email addy and IP), posted under a normal name on the front page of SM and didn't know anything about the case.  I just think a kid or troll playing around.  I would not give ShocktheMonkey's posts any credibility.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
MF says that all those car wrecks and bar fights we see in Aruba are American tourist.  :roll:  :lol:  :roll:


Probably running away and trying to protect themselves from the Aruban drug dealing/kidnapping/rapists/murders.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on July 27, 2007, 04:42:53 PM
This Man (if you can really call him a man ) lived and worked no more then two miles from my home .
  All of his neighbors and fellow workers are stunned !
  But to even THINK of doing this to two small Girls  and then after drowning them to desecrate their small bodies  
  MY GOD  where are you when this type of wrong is being planned ?  What possible reason for this man to even go on living even for a short while ?
   This is just so devastating may the Great Spirit help us STOP this outrage to our Children NOW before another child is harmed  .
   Oh GREAT SPIRIT I will gladly give my life in exchange that  Not another child will be harmed by these sick minded people.
                                         Jerry from Ohio  .



Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
O/T and REALLY SICK!


Ohio School Computer Tech Accused of Trying to Buy Children for Sexual Torture

Friday , July 27, 2007

An Ohio school computer technician with two stepchildren and a backyard swimming pool has been accused of trying to hire a woman in Miami to let him nearly drown her two daughters for his sexual pleasure.



What the hell is going on in this world.  Truly a sick, sick person.


when a society is this ill... it's time for serious medicine. I suggest public executions... and none of this 20 years in jail stuff before the execution. Watch the crime rate drop when people see others with their heads rollin into a basket.


I was just discussing this last night with someone.  If you are given the death penalty there should only be a 2 year wait before you are executed.

Look at those two guys in Connecticut who killed that doctors family.  Instant death for them.
:!:  :!:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
MF says that all those car wrecks and bar fights we see in Aruba are American tourist.  :roll:  :lol:  :roll:


Probably running away and trying to protect themselves from the Aruban drug dealing/kidnapping/rapists/murders.


I wonder how many tourist even bother to rent a car while on the island?  Why would they even need a car?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 04:44:50 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
MF says that all those car wrecks and bar fights we see in Aruba are American tourist.  :roll:  :lol:  :roll:


Probably running away and trying to protect themselves from the Aruban drug dealing/kidnapping/rapists/murders.


ROFLMAO!!! :lol:  :smt030


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 04:48:32 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
O/T and REALLY SICK!


Ohio School Computer Tech Accused of Trying to Buy Children for Sexual Torture

Friday , July 27, 2007

An Ohio school computer technician with two stepchildren and a backyard swimming pool has been accused of trying to hire a woman in Miami to let him nearly drown her two daughters for his sexual pleasure.



I totally agree!!

What the hell is going on in this world.  Truly a sick, sick person.


when a society is this ill... it's time for serious medicine. I suggest public executions... and none of this 20 years in jail stuff before the execution. Watch the crime rate drop when people see others with their heads rollin into a basket.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 04:49:56 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
MF says that all those car wrecks and bar fights we see in Aruba are American tourist.  :roll:  :lol:  :roll:


Probably running away and trying to protect themselves from the Aruban drug dealing/kidnapping/rapists/murders.


I wonder how many tourist even bother to rent a car while on the island?  Why would they even need a car?

Why would they need a car when they can catch a ride from Deepak?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 04:51:16 PM
oopsie.....lol....messed that up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 04:51:30 PM
Well it's Friday again.... had MF closed the case yet today?  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
AMEN to Jerry from Ohio.  Nice to see you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
MF says that all those car wrecks and bar fights we see in Aruba are American tourist.  :roll:  :lol:  :roll:


Probably running away and trying to protect themselves from the Aruban drug dealing/kidnapping/rapists/murders.


I wonder how many tourist even bother to rent a car while on the island?  Why would they even need a car?

Why would they need a car when they can catch a ride from Deepak?


 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 04:53:13 PM
Jerry are you sure you're not in Argentina?

and where the heck is Robots?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 04:53:56 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Jerry are you sure you're not in Argentina?

and where the heck is Robots?


He is looking for the papa frog :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Rob"
Jerry are you sure you're not in Argentina?

and where the heck is Robots?


He is looking for the papa frog :lol:


 :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 04:58:30 PM
:shock:  Just read what Klaas posted about that sicko in Ohio.
Un real.  :x  Someone needs to do to him what he intended to do.


Hi folks.  Any word when the fourm is gonna be down yet?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 04:59:35 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
:shock:  Just read what Klaas posted about that sicko in Ohio.
Un real.  :x  Someone needs to do to him what he intended to do.


Hi folks.  Any word when the fourm is gonna be down yet?


NOPE - I'm still trying to find out


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:00:02 PM
EASY,, there was a story today on our local news this afternoon about that kitty.  Called it a fatal attraction.  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: truthseeker2 on July 27, 2007, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Klaas,

Can you tell if the person posting back in June 2005 under the name Shock the Monkey was the same person as Shango?


I believe I checked and the answer is no.  I'll double check.


Not the same person as Shango.  Also, FWIW, I think ShocktheMonkey was a troll playing with us.  The same person as Shock (same email addy and IP), posted under a normal name on the front page of SM and didn't know anything about the case.  I just think a kid or troll playing around.  I would not give ShocktheMonkey's posts any credibility.



Thanks, Klass.  I'm sure you are right about that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
EASY,, there was a story today on our local news this afternoon about that kitty.  Called it a fatal attraction.  :shock:


What is up with that kitty cat?  Does it smell something different?  Feel some sort of vibe?  Suck the breath out of those people?   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Easywriter
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
EASY,, there was a story today on our local news this afternoon about that kitty.  Called it a fatal attraction.  :shock:


What is up with that kitty cat?  Does it smell something different?  Feel some sort of vibe?  Suck the breath out of those people?   :shock:[/quote

no clue.. senses death I gather..  :shock:

 How was your pizza?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
EASY,, there was a story today on our local news this afternoon about that kitty.  Called it a fatal attraction.  :shock:


What is up with that kitty cat?  Does it smell something different?  Feel some sort of vibe?  Suck the breath out of those people?   :shock:


see the dead relatives in the corner of the room...no matter what religion you are, in the end the dead people show up and the person who is about to die sees them and starts talking to them... I saw this first hand... it's weird... a guy who works at Hospice told me it happens all the time...it's like a daily thing for this guy.....not making this up..

some people have Lucifer show up and he sucks their soul-less heap of a body into the depths of Hell... like where Rat's gonna go...:lol: that moron is on an express to a eternal lifetime of damnation....too bad I won't be there to see it....HAH HA HA HA !!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
EASY,, there was a story today on our local news this afternoon about that kitty.  Called it a fatal attraction.  :shock:


What is up with that kitty cat?  Does it smell something different?  Feel some sort of vibe?  Suck the breath out of those people?   :shock:


see the dead relatives in the corner of the room...no matter what religion you are, in the end the dead people show up and the person who is about to die sees them and starts talking to them... I saw this first hand... it's weird... a guy who works at Hospice told me it happens all the time...it's like a daily thing for this guy.....not making this up..

some people have Lucifer show up and he sucks their soul-less heap of a body into the depths of Hell... like where Rat's gonna go...:lol: that moron is on an express to a eternal lifetime of damnation....too bad I won't be there to see it....HAH HA HA HA !!!


My gramma still swears her dad is at her house. My mom said she had a towel and rag sitting out on her tub for him cause he wanted to take a bath.   :cry:  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 05:16:43 PM
Sorry Angie.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 05:18:38 PM
Nice cheerful discussion going on here... :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Sorry Angie.


 Shes getting worse. My mom went to her dr and he thinks its her meds?
He said he can changer them but the new one could cause her to faint
 Shes on meds for beginnings of alzheimers. <shes 80> .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Nice cheerful discussion going on here... :D


 lol..  Hi Mom... forum seems really slow today.. wish there were some news.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 05:22:52 PM
Looks like my avatar isn't loading from photobucket, or maybe Dugga & Red are behind the curtain doing their wizard stuff.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 05:25:19 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Nice cheerful discussion going on here... :D


 lol..  Hi Mom... forum seems really slow today.. wish there were some news.


Hi, Ang.  I've checked in a few times...yes, it's slow.

How's your arm?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:26:52 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Nice cheerful discussion going on here... :D


 lol..  Hi Mom... forum seems really slow today.. wish there were some news.


Hi, Ang.  I've checked in a few times...yes, it's slow.

How's your arm?


hurts like hell.. hubbys friend stopped to visit with him so I snuck off.  lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Rob"
Jerry are you sure you're not in Argentina?

and where the heck is Robots?


He is looking for the papa frog :lol:


It is wayyyyyy hot here. Robots probably went for a swim and rusted !!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Well it's Friday again.... had MF closed the case yet today?  :P



Ah yes...were they not suppose to annouce that this week??? Well, let's have it Aruba... :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 05:32:00 PM
It's hot & muggy here, too, Nut.

Angie, does the doc have any idea what caused your injury?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:34:15 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
It's hot & muggy here, too, Nut.

Angie, does the doc have any idea what caused your injury?



nope.. said I must have slept on it the wrong way..  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 27, 2007, 05:37:31 PM
Well, will check back later...not sure if I'll find anyone here or if it will be down for maintenance...I do hope it's back before we leave for that wedding tomorrow...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:38:26 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Well, will check back later...not sure if I'll find anyone here or if it will be down for maintenance...I do hope it's back before we leave for that wedding tomorrow...


 Have fun~!  Cant wait to hear about you and Sharon meeting up  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 05:42:00 PM
I'm listening to this Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband... Prince what's his name.. and his story is more ridiculous than Eddie Murphy's transexual that needed a ride....yeah right!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
I'm listening to this Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband... Prince what's his name.. and his story is more ridiculous than Eddie Murphy's transexual that needed a ride....yeah right!!!


 ROFLMAO   what are you watching? I have our local news on.
I read the link Easy posted earlier.  LOL  Mugged my ass...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 05:44:31 PM
UMMMMMMM  :shock: ...I am reading this site that has the COMMENTARY
by Clint Van Zandt on it and in the comment section below Anastasia posts on 11-25-2005
The same guy who wrote this article wrote a good one about Amy. I am convinced she is alive.

I think the musician whom she was last spotted with kidnapped her.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-36958.html


~~~~~~~~~~~
MUSICIAN???...I had never heard that one before.....but...
follow the music??? LALA'sss where are you....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 27, 2007, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Call me an optimist but I disagree on them closing the case.

Me too Dayhiker. Closing the case at the 2 year mark was the expected move, one that they have been preparing us for since June 05. The KLPD made a different choice, based on -something-... IMO.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Call me an optimist but I disagree on them closing the case.

Me too Dayhiker. Closing the case at the 2 year mark was the expected move, one that they have been preparing us for since June 05. The KLPD made a different choice, based on -something-... IMO.



Think about this Igs. If so much as a hair of Natalee's was found at Lorenzo's house, GAME OVER.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
UMMMMMMM  :shock: ...I am reading this site that has the COMMENTARY
by Clint Van Zandt on it and in the comment section below Anastasia posts on 11-25-2005
The same guy who wrote this article wrote a good one about Amy. I am convinced she is alive.

I think the musician whom she was last spotted with kidnapped her.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-36958.html


~~~~~~~~~~~
MUSICIAN???...I had never heard that one before.....but...
follow the music??? LALA'sss where are you....





Nut  Thanks.. never read that before..

Who among you can turn out that light and slam the door on their slim grasp on hope? In most cases, that's all they have, hope and a few pictures of their missing child frozen in history at the time he or she disappeared. Their child is trapped in a time warp and the parents can't reach them, touch them, or talk to them. They can't even bury them. As a parent, can it really get much worse than this?

 That last paragraph is very sad.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 05:56:56 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Call me an optimist but I disagree on them closing the case.

Me too Dayhiker. Closing the case at the 2 year mark was the expected move, one that they have been preparing us for since June 05. The KLPD made a different choice, based on -something-... IMO.



Think about this Igs. If so much as a hair of Natalee's was found at Lorenzo's house, GAME OVER.


 I agree there!
<you got mail..>


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 27, 2007, 05:58:01 PM
The timing of Lorenzo's arrest sure is interesting, but i really do not know what to make of it.

Just another Sloot running afoul of the law...to me. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 06:00:45 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
UMMMMMMM  :shock: ...I am reading this site that has the COMMENTARY
by Clint Van Zandt on it and in the comment section below Anastasia posts on 11-25-2005
The same guy who wrote this article wrote a good one about Amy. I am convinced she is alive.

I think the musician whom she was last spotted with kidnapped her.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-36958.html


~~~~~~~~~~~
MUSICIAN???...I had never heard that one before.....but...
follow the music??? LALA'sss where are you....



Oh wait......perhaps this gal was talking about Amy...not Natalee. I think Amy was around musicians before she went missing...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 06:07:32 PM
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1534/7/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/synchro2.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:08:51 PM
It never ceases to amaze me to read the fake indignation some of these a$$holes at the hate sites like to portray about things said here. lol  

Do they not read their own posts and the posts of others at those sites?  That is some of the most consistently sick stuff I have ever seen.  The two most prominent sites have regulars that clearly have a serious problem with women and take every opportunity to spew filth about the female gender.  The females on those sites never complain and just think it is yuck, yuck, yuck so cute.  What is that about?

Then they want to go off about a post made at this site as if it was the MOST astounding thing they have ever read.  It is comical, but extremely sickening.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:11:44 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1534/7/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/synchro2.jpg)


~ circle, circle, dot, dot ~


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 06:13:47 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1534/7/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/synchro2.jpg)



 :lol:  Well dang. hes cheating on me.   :wink:
Although I was dopey last night.. I do recall all of my posts.  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1534/7/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/synchro2.jpg)


looks like someone edited out his bottle of rape juice in his right hand... now why would someone do that????


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 06:18:12 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
The timing of Lorenzo's arrest sure is interesting, but i really do not know what to make of it.

Just another Sloot running afoul of the law...to me. :wink:


Pot is chicken feed compared to what goes through that place.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 06:19:11 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "igsigs"
The timing of Lorenzo's arrest sure is interesting, but i really do not know what to make of it.

Just another Sloot running afoul of the law...to me. :wink:


Pot is chicken feed compared to what goes through that place.

Right - why would MF say that Lorenzo will be in jail for a long time based upon what they have on him?  Has to be more than 100 pot plants, IMO.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
It never ceases to amaze me to read the fake indignation some of these a$$holes at the hate sites like to portray about things said here. lol  

Do they not read their own posts and the posts of others at those sites?  That is some of the most consistently sick stuff I have ever seen.  The two most prominent sites have regulars that clearly have a serious problem with women and take every opportunity to spew filth about the female gender.  The females on those sites never complain and just think it is yuck, yuck, yuck so cute.  What is that about?

Then they want to go off about a post made at this site as if it was the MOST astounding thing they have ever read.  It is comical, but extremely sickening.


ITA!  :evil: It also pisses me off that so many are 'Wang Chung' lovers. He has to be one of the most hateful of all!! SICK!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:21:17 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1534/7/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/synchro2.jpg)



 :lol:  Well dang. hes cheating on me.   :wink:
Although I was dopey last night.. I do recall all of my posts.  :)


I am really surprised to see him in that water without his floaties, but the water does seem to have a sliming effect.  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 06:22:58 PM
I think I noticed something today   and  hate to say I forgot .. :oops:





((edit - sometimes people don't want the world to know}}
oh hi Monkeys


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:24:09 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
It never ceases to amaze me to read the fake indignation some of these a$$holes at the hate sites like to portray about things said here. lol  

Do they not read their own posts and the posts of others at those sites?  That is some of the most consistently sick stuff I have ever seen.  The two most prominent sites have regulars that clearly have a serious problem with women and take every opportunity to spew filth about the female gender.  The females on those sites never complain and just think it is yuck, yuck, yuck so cute.  What is that about?

Then they want to go off about a post made at this site as if it was the MOST astounding thing they have ever read.  It is comical, but extremely sickening.


ITA!  :evil: It also pisses me off that so many are 'Wang Chung' lovers. He has to be one of the most hateful of all!! SICK!!!!!


How could any woman be supportive of that sick bastard?  It doesn't matter how you feel about this case, that guy is sick at all levels.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 06:24:26 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "igsigs"
The timing of Lorenzo's arrest sure is interesting, but i really do not know what to make of it.

Just another Sloot running afoul of the law...to me. :wink:


Pot is chicken feed compared to what goes through that place.

Right - why would MF say that Lorenzo will be in jail for a long time based upon what they have on him?  Has to be more than 100 pot plants, IMO.


 I know others have said it and I will again too.. They know obviously he was a dealer for a long time. Why now? Why wait til now. after hearing crap fpr 2 years. Makes me feel there is way more there too... IMO.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
I think I noticed something today   and  hate to say I forgot .. :oops:

((edit - sometimes people don't want the world to know}}
oh hi Monkeys


 :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

Sorryyy  missed the memo

off to hide


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: wreck on July 27, 2007, 06:25:20 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
http://www.24ora.com/content/view/1534/7/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/synchro2.jpg)



 :lol:  Well dang. hes cheating on me.   :wink:
Although I was dopey last night.. I do recall all of my posts.  :)


I am really surprised to see him in that water without his floaties, but the water does seem to have a sliming effect.  :P


The rat looks like Martin short from his SNL skit........"Im not a strong swimmer"!  :wink:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:25:48 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
I think I noticed something today   and  hate to say I forgot .. :oops:





((edit - sometimes people don't want the world to know}}
oh hi Monkeys


NOW I want to know! lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 06:27:02 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
It never ceases to amaze me to read the fake indignation some of these a$$holes at the hate sites like to portray about things said here. lol  

Do they not read their own posts and the posts of others at those sites?  That is some of the most consistently sick stuff I have ever seen.  The two most prominent sites have regulars that clearly have a serious problem with women and take every opportunity to spew filth about the female gender.  The females on those sites never complain and just think it is yuck, yuck, yuck so cute.  What is that about?

Then they want to go off about a post made at this site as if it was the MOST astounding thing they have ever read.  It is comical, but extremely sickening.


ITA!  :evil: It also pisses me off that so many are 'Wang Chung' lovers. He has to be one of the most hateful of all!! SICK!!!!!


 Nut a few posters over there who dont even post anymore have told me that WANG is a gal?  :shock:  Id hate to believe that.  Dunno if its true or not.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 06:28:29 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "igsigs"
The timing of Lorenzo's arrest sure is interesting, but i really do not know what to make of it.

Just another Sloot running afoul of the law...to me. :wink:


Pot is chicken feed compared to what goes through that place.

Right - why would MF say that Lorenzo will be in jail for a long time based upon what they have on him?  Has to be more than 100 pot plants, IMO.



Agree Klaas. Has to be more to it than the weed. Hell, it's legal in Holland. Anybody think the Arubans give a crap about weed?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 06:29:32 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
It's hot & muggy here, too, Nut.

Angie, does the doc have any idea what caused your injury?



nope.. said I must have slept on it the wrong way..  :roll:


Anige
JMO...  but get a Dr. that does not Quack to look at your arm....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
UMMMMMMM  :shock: ...I am reading this site that has the COMMENTARY
by Clint Van Zandt on it and in the comment section below Anastasia posts on 11-25-2005
The same guy who wrote this article wrote a good one about Amy. I am convinced she is alive.

I think the musician whom she was last spotted with kidnapped her.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-36958.html


~~~~~~~~~~~
MUSICIAN???...I had never heard that one before.....but...
follow the music??? LALA'sss where are you....



Oh wait......perhaps this gal was talking about Amy...not Natalee. I think Amy was around musicians before she went missing...


Yes, Amy had been hanging around band members all week.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 06:34:56 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
It's hot & muggy here, too, Nut.

Angie, does the doc have any idea what caused your injury?



nope.. said I must have slept on it the wrong way..  :roll:


Anige
JMO...  but get a Dr. that does not Quack to look at your arm....


 :lol:  :lol:  msure I will be going to see a nuerologist in the near future.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 06:39:32 PM
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/websleuthsscreenshot3.jpg)

Websleuths doesn't even want anything to do with those maggots.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: JuJu on July 27, 2007, 06:39:45 PM
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 06:41:25 PM
Dayhiker - they treat the Lorenzo case like a missing person case and the Natalee case like a weed case....

that place is F'd up bigtime!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/websleuthsscreenshot3.jpg)

Websleuths doesn't even want anything to do with those maggots.


F-B gets the same treatment.

LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 06:44:41 PM
Hey Klaas - I notice we are about to enter the most critical phase - the last 48 hours...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/websleuthsscreenshot3.jpg)

Websleuths doesn't even want anything to do with those maggots.


They used to have some regulars that were RU members and they were easy to spot.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Hey Klaas - I notice we are about to enter the most critical phase - the last 48 hours...


Talking about the forum changes?  :lol:  I can't seem to find out what time exactly the forum is going down tonight, lol  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 06:46:06 PM
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 06:46:55 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Hey Klaas - I notice we are about to enter the most critical phase - the last 48 hours...


Talking about the forum changes?  :lol:  I can't seem to find out what time exactly the forum is going down tonight, lol  :lol:



 Maybe it will be late when everyone is asleep?   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 06:47:23 PM
KLAAAAS!!!  DUCKY ... WHAT ABOUT DUCKY???

Will he and I be together in the new cage.  I hope you realize ... I am NOTHING without him and ...  he make my life worth the living.  Oh ... woe is me.  Also ... without me Ducky will not thrive ... he will quack day and night in anguish ... he will not eat and ... his feathers will fall out.  Klaas ...  it will not be a pretty picture.   :(

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Hey Klaas - I notice we are about to enter the most critical phase - the last 48 hours...


Talking about the forum changes?  :lol:  I can't seem to find out what time exactly the forum is going down tonight, lol  :lol:


If it goes down suddenly, I guess we could all invade FOB. lol lol lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Hey Klaas - I notice we are about to enter the most critical phase - the last 48 hours...


Talking about the forum changes?  :lol:  I can't seem to find out what time exactly the forum is going down tonight, lol  :lol:


If it goes down suddenly, I guess we could all invade FOB. lol lol lol


Many of the Fob'ers are now at BFN...if that isn't the strangest of combo's!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 06:51:37 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
KLAAAAS!!!  DUCKY ... WHAT ABOUT DUCKY???

Will he and I be together in the new cage.  I hope you realize ... I am NOTHING without him and ...  he make my life worth the living.  Oh ... woe is me.  Also ... without me Ducky will not thrive ... he will quack day and night in anguish ... he will not eat and ... his feathers will fall out.  Klaas ...  it will not be a pretty picture.   :(

Janet


Ducky is safe with me.  I think you will still have your ducky when the new forum comes up, if not I'll make sure I add it for you.  

My promise to you....DUCKY WILL NOT LOSE ANY FEATHERS!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Shell on July 27, 2007, 06:51:56 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
They found Anita's ancestors:


Giant wombat bone found in Australia

Fri Jul 27, 1:18 AM ET

SYDNEY (AFP) - Scientists in Australia announced Friday they had found the jawbone of a giant wombat the size of a large car that lived 20,000-40,000 years ago


LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 06:52:23 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
KLAAAAS!!!  DUCKY ... WHAT ABOUT DUCKY???

Will he and I be together in the new cage.  I hope you realize ... I am NOTHING without him and ...  he make my life worth the living.  Oh ... woe is me.  Also ... without me Ducky will not thrive ... he will quack day and night in anguish ... he will not eat and ... his feathers will fall out.  Klaas ...  it will not be a pretty picture.   :(

Janet



 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Not Kllas.. but Janet.. I think you and DUCKY will be just fine!!   :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:52:38 PM
Anyone going to see The Simpsons movie this weekend?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Anyone going to see The Simpsons movie this weekend?


  Ummmmmmmmmmm no.. you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 06:55:02 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
KLAAAAS!!!  DUCKY ... WHAT ABOUT DUCKY???

Will he and I be together in the new cage.  I hope you realize ... I am NOTHING without him and ...  he make my life worth the living.  Oh ... woe is me.  Also ... without me Ducky will not thrive ... he will quack day and night in anguish ... he will not eat and ... his feathers will fall out.  Klaas ...  it will not be a pretty picture.   :(

Janet


Ducky is safe with me.  I think you will still have your ducky when the new forum comes up, if not I'll make sure I add it for you.  

My promise to you....DUCKY WILL NOT LOSE ANY FEATHERS!


VERY DEEP SIGH

Thank you.

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Anyone going to see The Simpsons movie this weekend?


  Ummmmmmmmmmm no.. you?


No, but I bet it will be funny!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 06:57:31 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
O/T and REALLY SICK!


Ohio School Computer Tech Accused of Trying to Buy Children for Sexual Torture

Friday , July 27, 2007

An Ohio school computer technician with two stepchildren and a backyard swimming pool has been accused of trying to hire a woman in Miami to let him nearly drown her two daughters for his sexual pleasure.



What the hell is going on in this world.  Truly a sick, sick person.


when a society is this ill... it's time for serious medicine. I suggest public executions... and none of this 20 years in jail stuff before the execution. Watch the crime rate drop when people see others with their heads rollin into a basket.


Sorry for this late response, I'm behind in reading.

I personally say the hell with any ethical dilema.......we need to preform mandatory lobotomy on any sexual predator. OK maybe electric shock treatment........


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: JuJu on July 27, 2007, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Maybe you should see a Rheumatolgist......I had seen a couple of your posts but did not know what the main sypmtoms were........I have Fibromyalgia and it sounds like that might be your problem.....mine started in my right arm....the numbness and the pain..I sincerely hope that it's not, but I hate to see people suffer because a doctor may not recognize what it is, or know anything about it


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 07:00:02 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Anyone going to see The Simpsons movie this weekend?


  Ummmmmmmmmmm no.. you?


I would like to see it... but I think the last movie I saw at a theatre was Pleasantville... like almost nine years ago...LOL

No, but I bet it will be funny!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Katysmom on July 27, 2007, 07:01:19 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Hey Klaas - I notice we are about to enter the most critical phase - the last 48 hours...


Talking about the forum changes?  :lol:  I can't seem to find out what time exactly the forum is going down tonight, lol  :lol:


If it goes down suddenly, I guess we could all invade FOB. lol lol lol


I thought we were all going to your house


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 07:01:24 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Anyone going to see The Simpsons movie this weekend?


  Ummmmmmmmmmm no.. you?




No, but I bet it will be funny!


I would like to see it... but I think the last movie I saw at a theatre was Pleasantville... like almost nine years ago...LOL..


now I'm doing it too.. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:03:24 PM
Quote from: Easywriter
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Anyone going to see The Simpsons movie this weekend?


  Ummmmmmmmmmm no.. you?


No, but I bet it will be funny![/quote



Im sure it will be..  :) :)
Embarassing for me to admit... Last movies I saw in a theatre were Titanic.. and the very last was Ladder 49 with a group of friends.  lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 07:06:10 PM
Quote from: "JuJu"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Maybe you should see a Rheumatolgist......I had seen a couple of your posts but did not know what the main sypmtoms were........I have Fibromyalgia and it sounds like that might be your problem.....mine started in my right arm....the numbness and the pain..I sincerely hope that it's not, but I hate to see people suffer because a doctor may not recognize what it is, or know anything about it


Angie - maybe you should see
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/DrSatish1-1.jpg)
Dr Satish

or

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/Dr.Deepak2.jpg)
Dr Deepak

or
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/Dilbert1-1.jpg)
Dr Dilbert

all three come very highly recommended by their surviving patients.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: "JuJu"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Maybe you should see a Rheumatolgist......I had seen a couple of your posts but did not know what the main sypmtoms were........I have Fibromyalgia and it sounds like that might be your problem.....mine started in my right arm....the numbness and the pain..I sincerely hope that it's not, but I hate to see people suffer because a doctor may not recognize what it is, or know anything about it


   TY JuJu  :) I am gona have to get all  checked out.. cause I am getting tingles in my legs and footsies now too.  I feel it may be a pinched nerve.
I had back surgery years ago and do have some nerve damage from that.  :x


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:09:27 PM
Yeah, it will be on DVD before I see it. lol

I think the last movie I went to see was Passion of the Christ.  Brutal!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:10:09 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Maybe you should see a Rheumatolgist......I had seen a couple of your posts but did not know what the main sypmtoms were........I have Fibromyalgia and it sounds like that might be your problem.....mine started in my right arm....the numbness and the pain..I sincerely hope that it's not, but I hate to see people suffer because a doctor may not recognize what it is, or know anything about it


Angie - maybe you should see
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/DrSatish1-1.jpg)
Dr Satish

or

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/Dr.Deepak2.jpg)
Dr Deepak

or
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/Dilbert1-1.jpg)
Dr Dilbert

all three come very highly recommended by their surviving patients.





ROFLMAO.. you forgot  Jack Kovorkian   :twisted:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Rob"
Hey Klaas - I notice we are about to enter the most critical phase - the last 48 hours...


Talking about the forum changes?  :lol:  I can't seem to find out what time exactly the forum is going down tonight, lol  :lol:


If it goes down suddenly, I guess we could all invade FOB. lol lol lol


Many of the Fob'ers are now at BFN...if that isn't the strangest of combo's!


You're right Nut, I've never been able to figure that one out.  It's BLOGs FOR NATALEE and it's taken over by the Natalee haters.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: JuJu on July 27, 2007, 07:11:20 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Maybe you should see a Rheumatolgist......I had seen a couple of your posts but did not know what the main sypmtoms were........I have Fibromyalgia and it sounds like that might be your problem.....mine started in my right arm....the numbness and the pain..I sincerely hope that it's not, but I hate to see people suffer because a doctor may not recognize what it is, or know anything about it


   TY JuJu  :) I am gona have to get all  checked out.. cause I am getting tingles in my legs and footsies now too.  I feel it may be a pinched nerve.
I had back surgery years ago and do have some nerve damage from that.  :x


I hope you get to feeling better soon!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:12:02 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Yeah, it will be on DVD before I see it. lol

I think the last movie I went to see was Passion of the Christ.  Brutal!


  I would have liked to see that.. but never went.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:13:03 PM
Quote from: "JuJu"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Maybe you should see a Rheumatolgist......I had seen a couple of your posts but did not know what the main sypmtoms were........I have Fibromyalgia and it sounds like that might be your problem.....mine started in my right arm....the numbness and the pain..I sincerely hope that it's not, but I hate to see people suffer because a doctor may not recognize what it is, or know anything about it


   TY JuJu  :) I am gona have to get all  checked out.. cause I am getting tingles in my legs and footsies now too.  I feel it may be a pinched nerve.
I had back surgery years ago and do have some nerve damage from that.  :x


I hope you get to feeling better soon!



  TY JuJu.. Me too.. trust me.. and I do feel for you. HUGS!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: justinsmama on July 27, 2007, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
I think I noticed something today   and  hate to say I forgot .. :oops:





((edit - sometimes people don't want the world to know}}
oh hi Monkeys


Well, now I'm curious!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:14:31 PM
I don’t condone this drinking and driving a space shuttle, but I think the only way I would get on one is if I was chit faced!   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 07:16:06 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I don’t condone this drinking and driving a space shuttle, but I think the only way I would get on one is if I was chit faced!   :shock:


LOL!!!  Me too Easy!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA

Sorry I just saw this....
he said around 11 or 12 ish tonight... could be a little later..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
KLAAAAS!!!  DUCKY ... WHAT ABOUT DUCKY???

Will he and I be together in the new cage.  I hope you realize ... I am NOTHING without him and ...  he make my life worth the living.  Oh ... woe is me.  Also ... without me Ducky will not thrive ... he will quack day and night in anguish ... he will not eat and ... his feathers will fall out.  Klaas ...  it will not be a pretty picture.   :(

Janet



 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Not Kllas.. but Janet.. I think you and DUCKY will be just fine!!   :)


Klaas has assured me that what she freely gave ... she will not take away.

However ... that arm of yours.  Angie ... something is definitely very wrong.  Are you satisfied with the medical attention you are receiving right now ... maybe a second opinion is where it is at.  This has gone on for just too long.  Emotionally ... it must be taking a toll.

Take care hon.

Janet


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I don’t condone this drinking and driving a space shuttle, but I think the only way I would get on one is if I was chit faced!   :shock:


only of these lunatics sabotaged a computer.... holy - - - -.... any Arubans working for NASA down in Florida?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 07:17:59 PM
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I don’t condone this drinking and driving a space shuttle, but I think the only way I would get on one is if I was chit faced!   :shock:


LOL!!!  Me too Easy!


Sounds like a hell of a trip  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 07:19:12 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA

Sorry I just saw this....
he said around 11 or 12 ish tonight... could be a little later..


Is that EASTERN time?  Or CENTRAL time?  I don't know what timezone Dugga is in, LOL  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Is it your right arm/hand Angie?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:20:02 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Yeah, it will be on DVD before I see it. lol

I think the last movie I went to see was Passion of the Christ.  Brutal!


  I would have liked to see that.. but never went.


I think my mother was visiting the weekend it came out and she wanted to see it.  Well made movie, but brutal.  As we left the theater I could see that almost everyone that watched it had been in tears.  It actually made me feel anger more than sadness.  Man's inhumanity to man was overbearingly demonstrated in that film.

I only saw it once and that is all I want to see it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 07:20:50 PM
Sounds like Robot is screwed..Hes gonna have to get up like at 5am EST to be the first.. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 27, 2007, 07:21:39 PM
Expecting 12 people for dinner.  No ... I did not cook and bake all day.  Take out at our favorite Chinese restaurant and our local bakery is where it is at.  My contribution ... steamed rice.  Anyways ... one vehicle has just driven up our driveway.  Gotta go!

Have a great evening Monkeys.

Janet

4:30 PM


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I don’t condone this drinking and driving a space shuttle, but I think the only way I would get on one is if I was chit faced!   :shock:


LOL!!!  Me too Easy!


Sounds like a hell of a trip  8)


Astronauts are among some of the smartest people in the world, they must know something we don't --  :lol:   :lol:  :shock:   :o


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:24:43 PM
Quote from: "Tamikosmom"
Expecting 12 people for dinner.  No ... I did not cook and bake all day.  Take out at our favorite Chinese restaurant and our local bakery is where it is at.  My contribution ... steamed rice.  Anyways ... one vehicle has just driven up our driveway.  Gotta go!

Have a great evening Monkeys.

Janet

4:30 PM


Yum, sounds like another night for duck feet!  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Is it your right arm/hand Angie?


  Sorry folks I am behind

Yes BB it is my right arm/hand  and I am right handed  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Katysmom on July 27, 2007, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Sounds like Robot is screwed..Hes gonna have to get up like at 5am EST to be the first.. :wink:


Serves him right!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 07:29:51 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:32:34 PM
O/T - But Interesting

Want to read a story about just how sick some people can be?  These are probably future members of RU.

In Connecticut, it might be a felony to bash the vandals who bashed your mailbox, but in Wisconsin, it's entirely legal to have sex with a corpse.

Last September, three guys went to a cemetery in Cassville, Wis., to dig up the body of Laura Tennessen, a 20-year-old girl killed a week before in a motorcycle crash.


http://incoldblogger.blogspot.com/2007/07/who-needs-matchcom.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:32:43 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


  ROFLMAO  !!  
 They are hoggin the doobie.. Dont bogart that joint my friend.. LMAO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 07:36:22 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Is it your right arm/hand Angie?


  Sorry folks I am behind

Yes BB it is my right arm/hand  and I am right handed  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


That is what I was wondering.......well instead of armchair quarterback, I'll play armchair MD. I might suggest it could be something like a fasciitis and/or tendonitis?  What do you think about it being something like that, inflammation of the fascia/tendon in the arm hard possibly caused by repetative movements ie keyboard, or something like a slicer at work?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 07:36:43 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
O/T - But Interesting

Want to read a story about just how sick some people can be?  These are probably future members of RU.

In Connecticut, it might be a felony to bash the vandals who bashed your mailbox, but in Wisconsin, it's entirely legal to have sex with a corpse.

Last September, three guys went to a cemetery in Cassville, Wis., to dig up the body of Laura Tennessen, a 20-year-old girl killed a week before in a motorcycle crash.


http://incoldblogger.blogspot.com/2007/07/who-needs-matchcom.html


We have some very sick people in this world.  My Dad just told me he took my step mom her favorite blouse to wear at her nursing home. 3 hours later it was stolen off her back.  :shock:  :cry:  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA

Sorry I just saw this....
he said around 11 or 12 ish tonight... could be a little later..



Cool...I will be drooling on my pillow then(http://bestsmileys.com/drooling/4.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 07:38:28 PM
Angiex
How long after peeling all those durn spuds  did this flair up ??
Prob. not related ... but please mention to the next doctor.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


  ROFLMAO  !!  
 They are hoggin the doobie.. Dont bogart that joint my friend.. LMAO



 :oops:  It really is a song.. I am sure some may know it.. lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eWin5jKEI5k&mode=related&search=


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 07:39:46 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG, lmaoooo!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 07:41:11 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


  ROFLMAO  !!  
 They are hoggin the doobie.. Dont bogart that joint my friend.. LMAO



 :oops:  It really is a song.. I am sure some may know it.. lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eWin5jKEI5k&mode=related&search=


OMG YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL!!! I DO!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 07:41:26 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


  ROFLMAO  !!  
 They are hoggin the doobie.. Dont bogart that joint my friend.. LMAO



 :oops:  It really is a song.. I am sure some may know it.. lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eWin5jKEI5k&mode=related&search=


I knew it was a song. ....."Pass it over to me......"   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:41:33 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
O/T - But Interesting

Want to read a story about just how sick some people can be?  These are probably future members of RU.

In Connecticut, it might be a felony to bash the vandals who bashed your mailbox, but in Wisconsin, it's entirely legal to have sex with a corpse.

Last September, three guys went to a cemetery in Cassville, Wis., to dig up the body of Laura Tennessen, a 20-year-old girl killed a week before in a motorcycle crash.


http://incoldblogger.blogspot.com/2007/07/who-needs-matchcom.html


We have some very sick people in this world.  My Dad just told me he took my step mom her favorite blouse to wear at her nursing home. 3 hours later it was stolen off her back.  :shock:  :cry:  :cry:


That is terrible!  We need to get on a good news kick, because I am starting to lose faith in my fellow man.  Too much sickness out in this old world.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
O/T - But Interesting

Want to read a story about just how sick some people can be?  These are probably future members of RU.

In Connecticut, it might be a felony to bash the vandals who bashed your mailbox, but in Wisconsin, it's entirely legal to have sex with a corpse.

Last September, three guys went to a cemetery in Cassville, Wis., to dig up the body of Laura Tennessen, a 20-year-old girl killed a week before in a motorcycle crash.


http://incoldblogger.blogspot.com/2007/07/who-needs-matchcom.html


We have some very sick people in this world.  My Dad just told me he took my step mom her favorite blouse to wear at her nursing home. 3 hours later it was stolen off her back.  :shock:  :cry:  :cry:


That is terrible!  We need to get on a good news kick, because I am starting to lose faith in my fellow man.  Too much sickness out in this old world.....


I wish I had some good news to report.  ALL, I can report is all is well with me for now.  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "JuJu"
Hi Monkeys, what's wrong with your arm Angie?


 Hi Hon..
  been in a yucky splint now for almost 2 weeks.. numb. lotta pain.
 not much fun.  :(


Is it your right arm/hand Angie?


  Sorry folks I am behind

Yes BB it is my right arm/hand  and I am right handed  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:


That is what I was wondering.......well instead of armchair quarterback, I'll play armchair MD. I might suggest it could be something like a fasciitis and/or tendonitis?  What do you think about it being something like that, inflammation of the fascia/tendon in the arm hard possibly caused by repetative movements ie keyboard, or something like a slicer at work?



  ER dr and MY dr said maybe tendonitis.. whatever it is.. its painful as hell. Yes.. I do alot of repetion with several jobs i have had in the past..
Puters when I was a sales Rep for Montgomary Wards... Puters,, not one but 3 of them at once at 911.. registers.. puters at work.. puter at home..
lol   Hmmmmmmmmm.. guess I wore myself out.. lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Angiex
How long after peeling all those durn spuds  did this flair up ??
Prob. not related ... but please mention to the next doctor.


  lol sweety..  :)    :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


  ROFLMAO  !!  
 They are hoggin the doobie.. Dont bogart that joint my friend.. LMAO



 :oops:  It really is a song.. I am sure some may know it.. lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eWin5jKEI5k&mode=related&search=


I knew it was a song. ....."Pass it over to me......"   :wink:


For some reason that made me think of Alice’s Restaurant.  Anyone remember that one? lol  I think it was like 29 minutes long and had us all howlin’ in the day.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 07:51:18 PM
When we find out when and what time zone... the plug is getting pulled
is there any party in the Lounge planned to say fair well to the Old  and get ready for the New.   Maybe of plug pulling count-down ball  :shock:
 Kinda like New Years  ?

If so I prob. need to go dig up some party or food pics  and get the links to stuff.
 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 07:52:35 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
When we find out when and what time zone... the plug is getting pulled
is there any party in the Lounge planned to say fair well to the Old  and get ready for the New.   Maybe of plug pulling count-down ball  :shock:
 Kinda like New Years  ?

If so I prob. need to go dig up some party or food pics  and get the links to stuff.
 :lol:


Sure!  Or we could start partying at 10pm Central time and continue until the plug is pulled...whenever that is!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 07:54:02 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "oldfart"
When we find out when and what time zone... the plug is getting pulled
is there any party in the Lounge planned to say fair well to the Old  and get ready for the New.   Maybe of plug pulling count-down ball  :shock:
 Kinda like New Years  ?

If so I prob. need to go dig up some party or food pics  and get the links to stuff.
 :lol:


Sure!  Or we could start partying at 10pm Central time and continue until the plug is pulled...whenever that is!


I was hoping to have a Sock Monkey Update before the lights go out.. :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:54:04 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
When we find out when and what time zone... the plug is getting pulled
is there any party in the Lounge planned to say fair well to the Old  and get ready for the New.   Maybe of plug pulling count-down ball  :shock:
 Kinda like New Years  ?

If so I prob. need to go dig up some party or food pics  and get the links to stuff.
 :lol:


It got so quiet in here I think the plug might have already been pulled!   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 They are hoggin the doobie.. Dont bogart that joint my friend.. LMAO




I knew it was a song. ....."Pass it over to me......"   :wink:


For some reason that made me think of Alice’s Restaurant.  Anyone remember that one? lol  I think it was like 29 minutes long and had us all howlin’ in the day.


I loved it.  Those were the good ole days.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: JuJu on July 27, 2007, 07:56:30 PM
so what's the latest on LVR, is he still in jail or what?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "oldfart"
When we find out when and what time zone... the plug is getting pulled
is there any party in the Lounge planned to say fair well to the Old  and get ready for the New.   Maybe of plug pulling count-down ball  :shock:
 Kinda like New Years  ?

If so I prob. need to go dig up some party or food pics  and get the links to stuff.
 :lol:


Sure!  Or we could start partying at 10pm Central time and continue until the plug is pulled...whenever that is!


Maybe in a new Lounge thread...  
It would make it over .. but might  have not to stick around long  afterwards  :wink:  :lol:  :oops:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 07:57:31 PM
Ever wake up from a deep nap, not see a single soul moving about and wonder if you might have missed the call?  Nah, me either……


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 07:57:35 PM
Easywriter wrote;
Quote
For some reason that made me think of Alice’s Restaurant. Anyone remember that one? lol I think it was like 29 minutes long and had us all howlin’ in the day.


HEHEHE  I  remember it of course.......but things now leave less to the imagination ........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Y7GMPJO64


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 07:57:59 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"


For some reason that made me think of Alice’s Restaurant.  Anyone remember that one? lol  I think it was like 29 minutes long and had us all howlin’ in the day.


Arlo is still singing. 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 07:58:39 PM
Nike is suspending Vicks contract and Reebok not going to sell his jersey.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 07:59:40 PM
Quote from: "JuJu"
so what's the latest on LVR, is he still in jail or what?


Last we heard, YES, he is still detained.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:00:18 PM
I think Lohan is in deep chit!  Seems to get worse each day.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: "San"
Nike is suspending Vicks contract and Reebok not going to sell his jersey.


Good for them.  I'm torn on this.  I am an avid dog lover and condemn whatever he was doing with any dog abuse, but he is a good quarterback for Atlanta's Falcons.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 08:01:33 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Easywriter wrote;
Quote
For some reason that made me think of Alice’s Restaurant. Anyone remember that one? lol I think it was like 29 minutes long and had us all howlin’ in the day.


HEHEHE  I  remember it of course.......but things now leave less to the imagination ........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Y7GMPJO64


Ooops sorry didn't mean to link to the uncensored version. :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Easywriter"


For some reason that made me think of Alice’s Restaurant.  Anyone remember that one? lol  I think it was like 29 minutes long and had us all howlin’ in the day.


Arlo is still singing. 8)


Arlo was one of a kind. lol

"I want to kill, I just want to kill...." lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 27, 2007, 08:02:15 PM
Quote from: Rob
Quote from: "Rob"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Anyone going to see The Simpsons movie this weekend?


  Ummmmmmmmmmm no.. you?




No, but I bet it will be funny!


I would like to see it... but I think the last movie I saw at a theatre was Pleasantville... like almost nine years ago...LOL..

Rob, you should get out more. I heard that the pictures that move, they TALK now that we are in the modern world.
And the pictures are in color.
I don't have enough coupons to go yet, but I might if I eat more Monkey Pops.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 08:02:50 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA

Sorry I just saw this....
he said around 11 or 12 ish tonight... could be a little later..


Is that EASTERN time?  Or CENTRAL time?  I don't know what timezone Dugga is in, LOL  :lol:


I am still way behind.. just getting here.... I have to feed red dinner... and while he is eating I will make him talk.. :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I think Lohan is in deep chit!  Seems to get worse each day.


They are just playing with her. Forget rehab the girl needs to do a little time and maybe something she is doing will sink in and possibly save her life(or someone elses).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Mrs. Red - can you find out from Red what time tonight the forum is going down?  TIA

Sorry I just saw this....
he said around 11 or 12 ish tonight... could be a little later..


Is that EASTERN time?  Or CENTRAL time?  I don't know what timezone Dugga is in, LOL  :lol:


I am still way behind.. just getting here.... I have to feed red dinner... and while he is eating I will make him talk.. :shock:


HAH  hostage....held at steak point :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 08:07:11 PM
Hi monkeys...we could all dance the night away and then crash over at Easy's place.  By the time we wake up it will be a New World Order.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "San"
Nike is suspending Vicks contract and Reebok not going to sell his jersey.


Good for them.  I'm torn on this.  I am an avid dog lover and condemn whatever he was doing with any dog abuse, but he is a good quarterback for Atlanta's Falcons.

I think he hasn't been that great for ATL... causes too much trouble... but that's just me..

i was happy to hear that they are pulling all of his contracts.. and the merchandise...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 08:07:52 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I think Lohan is in deep chit!  Seems to get worse each day.

I agree Easy she is in big trouble.

I'm waiting for Britney to be arrested next.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:10:35 PM
Since this is the last night for the forum we have all come to know so well, let’s throw caution to the wind and O/T!!!! lol

Will the new forum be setup in a way that is more inviting?  Most of us come directly to the LCD, because that is where everyone is.  If we post in the lounge, it could be days before we get a response.

Just curious……..  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I think Lohan is in deep chit!  Seems to get worse each day.

I agree Easy she is in big trouble.

I'm waiting for Britney to be arrested next.


Or, Paris Hilton.  AGAIN!  or is she still in jail? :roll:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 08:14:11 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hi monkeys...we could all dance the night away and then crash over at Easy's place.  By the time we wake up it will be a New World Order.  :D


 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2007, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Since this is the last night for the forum we have all come to know so well, let’s throw caution to the wind and O/T!!!! lol

Will the new forum be setup in a way that is more inviting?  Most of us come directly to the LCD, because that is where everyone is.  If we post in the lounge, it could be days before we get a response.

Just curious……..  8)



I ordered some stuff at the cafepress today  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Since this is the last night for the forum we have all come to know so well, let’s throw caution to the wind and O/T!!!! lol

Will the new forum be setup in a way that is more inviting?  Most of us come directly to the LCD, because that is where everyone is.  If we post in the lounge, it could be days before we get a response.

Just curious……..  8)


I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.  They are making it a surprise for me too.  I've been told it will be much nicer.

Time for dinner, brb


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I think Lohan is in deep chit!  Seems to get worse each day.

I agree Easy she is in big trouble.

I'm waiting for Britney to be arrested next.


If what those three guys are saying is true, she is up a crooked creek without a paddle!  She is going to do some time over this, because it is too public already.  No judge will want to be the one known for cutting her some slack, if she goes out and runs someone down.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 08:21:09 PM
Not sure if you would call it  a Party..but It is in the lounge
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=255266#255266
NO.. I did not have time to find the food / drink   yet..
I figure I better mow since it has cooled off a bit

BBL   Hope the lights are still on  :lol:
SeeeYaaa


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 27, 2007, 08:21:12 PM
I'm waiting for Britney to be arrested next.
I am waiting for a Sloot to be arrested next.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 27, 2007, 08:22:58 PM
Are we going to be bare neeky in the new forum ?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 08:23:01 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


  ROFLMAO  !!  
 They are hoggin the doobie.. Dont bogart that joint my friend.. LMAO



 :oops:  It really is a song.. I am sure some may know it.. lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eWin5jKEI5k&mode=related&search=


I knew it was a song. ....."Pass it over to me......"   :wink:


For some reason that made me think of Alice’s Restaurant.  Anyone remember that one? lol  I think it was like 29 minutes long and had us all howlin’ in the day.


 I am behind.. had to help hubby get in the tub.. his firend is still here  :roll:
  Easy  ROFL at Alices Restaurant...   :lol:  :lol:  Its played every year on Thanksgiving day at 12 noon on a Pittsburgh radio station  WDVE,,


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 08:25:10 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I think Lohan is in deep chit!  Seems to get worse each day.

I agree Easy she is in big trouble.

I'm waiting for Britney to be arrested next.


If what those three guys are saying is true, she is up a crooked creek without a paddle!  She is going to do some time over this, because it is too public already.  No judge will want to be the one known for cutting her some slack, if she goes out and runs someone down.

I agree Easy.  She is out of control and I think time will give her a nice wake up call.  I do not feel bad for people like Paris, Lyndsay and Britney.  They are a bunch of spoiled brats with a lot of money and don't know what to do with it.  There was an article in todays paper about something that Britney did recently too at a photo shoot she had.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:27:15 PM
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
I'm waiting for Britney to be arrested next.
I am waiting for a Sloot to be arrested next.


I’m trying very hard not to be one of those “glass half empty” guys, but I’m just not getting a feeling that this will ever be resolved.  If Tim Miller could find something (anything), I think that would change things significantly.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 08:33:36 PM
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:34:24 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I think Lohan is in deep chit!  Seems to get worse each day.

I agree Easy she is in big trouble.

I'm waiting for Britney to be arrested next.


If what those three guys are saying is true, she is up a crooked creek without a paddle!  She is going to do some time over this, because it is too public already.  No judge will want to be the one known for cutting her some slack, if she goes out and runs someone down.

I agree Easy.  She is out of control and I think time will give her a nice wake up call.  I do not feel bad for people like Paris, Lyndsay and Britney.  They are a bunch of spoiled brats with a lot of money and don't know what to do with it.  There was an article in todays paper about something that Britney did recently too at a photo shoot she had.


I missed the details, but her bodyguard took a swing at a paparatzi (sp?) guy and hit her baby instead.  It is all very messed up and none of them seem to GET it!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/doobiepassROBRU.gif)


  ROFLMAO  !!  
 They are hoggin the doobie.. Dont bogart that joint my friend.. LMAO



 :oops:  It really is a song.. I am sure some may know it.. lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eWin5jKEI5k&mode=related&search=


I knew it was a song. ....."Pass it over to me......"   :wink:


For some reason that made me think of Alice’s Restaurant.  Anyone remember that one? lol  I think it was like 29 minutes long and had us all howlin’ in the day.


 I am behind.. had to help hubby get in the tub.. his firend is still here  :roll:
  Easy  ROFL at Alices Restaurant...   :lol:  :lol:  Its played every year on Thanksgiving day at 12 noon on a Pittsburgh radio station  WDVE,,


I have not listened to that one in so long that I think I will have to find it and do the memory lane thang one day soon. lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: JuJu on July 27, 2007, 08:37:30 PM
I just noticed that this is LCD #666.... :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:39:34 PM
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
Are we going to be bare neeky in the new forum ?


Remember the first time you ever went skinny dippin’?  Kind of skeery and excitin' at the same time….. lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:40:58 PM
Quote from: "JuJu"
I just noticed that this is LCD #666.... :shock:


 :shock:  So, it will all end with 666?   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 08:41:17 PM
Quote from: "JuJu"
I just noticed that this is LCD #666.... :shock:

That's a good number to play and it's always sold out :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 08:41:51 PM
O/T and way to go gramps!

Soda Can Assault Victim Wakes to Shoot Robber
Friday , July 27, 2007

 EL DORADO, Ark. —

An elderly man beaten unconscious by an assailant wielding a soda can later awoke and shot the man during an attempted robbery, police said.

Willie Lee Hill, 93, told police he saw the robber while in his bedroom Wednesday night. Hill confronted Douglas B. Williams Jr., 24, of El Dorado, who struck the elderly man at least 50 times, knocking him out, police said.

Hill, covered in blood from the attack, regained consciousness and pulled a .38-caliber handgun on Williams. Williams saw the gun and charged Hill, who fired one round, police said. The bullet struck Williams in the throat.

When police arrived, officers said Williams told them, "I can't feel my legs and I got what I deserved."

Paramedics took Hill and Williams to the Medical Center of South Arkansas for treatment. Doctors later sent Williams to the Louisiana State University Medical Center at Shreveport, where he was listed in critical condition Friday.

Employees at the Medical Center of South Arkansas refused to give Hill's condition or say if he'd been discharged from the hospital Friday, citing medical privacy laws.

Officers reported finding a set of keys, two hearing aids, a CD player, an MP3 player, a Craftsman drill bit set and three pocket knives inside Williams' pockets. Police plan to charge Williams with residential burglary, second-degree battery, theft of property and theft by receiving.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291231,00.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 08:45:35 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


We aren't going to have a LCD thread any longer?  Tell me that's not true.  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 27, 2007, 08:46:30 PM
When does the new forum come on line ?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: CJ1 on July 27, 2007, 08:46:57 PM
Easywriter,

You said you wanted good news.  The good news is SM with it's one LARGE brain cell and even larger heart.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


We aren't going to have a LCD thread any longer?  Tell me that's not true.  :shock:


I believe we WILL still have a LCD thread.  I just think the forum will be set up differently.  Currently it NH and then everything else.  I "think" in the new forum it will be more like MISSING PERSONS, with Natalee on top and the other MP under it.  Each MP may have it's own LCD thread.  Not sure..I will see when you guys see.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


We aren't going to have a LCD thread any longer?  Tell me that's not true.  :shock:
Oh my gosh! Where will we tango?
Hello Monkeys!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 08:50:40 PM
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
When does the new forum come on line ?


Mrs. Red said the current forum was going down around 11-12pm tonight.  Not sure if that's Eastern or Central time.  Red said that the new forum will be the first thing back up. Red said it shouldn't be down more than a few hours.  Certainly by morning, the new forum should be up and running.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 08:51:28 PM
[quote="Easywriter

I have not listened to that one in so long that I think I will have to find it and do the memory lane thang one day soon. lol[/quote]



http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_7C0QGkiVo


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 27, 2007, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
When does the new forum come on line ?


Mrs. Red said the current forum was going down around 11-12pm tonight.  Not sure if that's Eastern or Central time.  Red said that the new forum will be the first thing back up. Red said it shouldn't be down more than a few hours.  Certainly by morning, the new forum should be up and running.

thta's ok, not a            l  o   n   g                 time at all.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 08:52:34 PM
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 08:54:29 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "JuJu"
I just noticed that this is LCD #666.... :shock:

That's a good number to play and it's always sold out :lol:


  SAN you are right and so is trip 111.  
 Lottery almost always cuts off trip 6's and 1's...  I have to hear folks bitch about it all the time. Wahhh.. wish thats all I had to worry about..  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 08:55:23 PM
Quote from: "CJ1"
Easywriter,

You said you wanted good news.  The good news is SM with it's one LARGE brain cell and even larger heart.


You are right about that!  

I shouldn’t even read at those other sites.  The have no news.  Their theories are so off the wall they become ridiculous.  The all or nothing Aruba lovers think bashing Americans is somehow going to help their tourism industry that is driven by 75% American visitors.  

It’s all a very ridiculous bad habit I need to wipe off the bottom of my shoes.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 08:55:33 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 08:57:42 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.
Lala's just hold on tight to that book, as we fly through cyber space!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 08:59:49 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..
Hi Angie! Hope you and the hubby both feel better soon!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:01:07 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="Easywriter

I have not listened to that one in so long that I think I will have to find it and do the memory lane thang one day soon. lol




http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_7C0QGkiVo[/quote]

Thanks!  I've got that one loading now. lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.
Lala's just hold on tight to that book, as we fly through cyber space!!


I hope I don't lose any of my pencils.  I am going to need them soon.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: CJ1
Easywriter,

You said you wanted good news.  The good news is SM with it's one LARGE brain cell and even larger heart.[/quote


 :D  CJ~!!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:04:22 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


"I'm so excited....I'm about to lose control, and I think I like it."
 :wink:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 09:06:22 PM
Well, I guess we need to get back on topic.  Shango anyone?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 09:06:24 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


"I'm so excited....I'm about to lose control, and I think I like it."
 :wink:  :lol:  :lol:
:smt043


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Frijole on July 27, 2007, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..


Me 3 guys!

Although I'm sure the new site will rock, this forum is like a home away from home.  We all came together over 2 yrs ago to frantically help search for clues for Natalee.  It was exciting and scary at the same time.

Now, many months later we realize that we were all played by a corrupt government on a skanky island.  Justice would not come - at least not yet.  All the praying, sleuthing and shango-tangoing has not brought justice for Natalee - YET.

But it did bring a group of strangers together and some friendships were born and have grown... so I thank you all for the many hours of companionship.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.
Lala's just hold on tight to that book, as we fly through cyber space!!


I hope I don't lose any of my pencils.  I am going to need them soon.

I've stashed some extra away for you!  :lol:

(http://marketplace.publicradio.org/i/news/b_no2pencil_53354337.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:07:03 PM
Should we all sing Auld Lang Syne tonight?

Should auld acquaintance be forgot
and never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot
and days of auld lang syne?
For auld lang syne, my dear,
for auld lang syne,
we'll take a cup of kindness yet,
for auld lang syne.


 :cry:  :cry:  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:07:47 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..
Hi Angie! Hope you and the hubby both feel better soon!




 Thanks sweety.. Im glad his friend is here keepin him company.  Gives me a break.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 09:09:46 PM
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="Easywriter

I have not listened to that one in so long that I think I will have to find it and do the memory lane thang one day soon. lol




http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_7C0QGkiVo


Thanks!  I've got that one loading now. lol[/quote]

  :)    YW..  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:12:39 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="Easywriter

I have not listened to that one in so long that I think I will have to find it and do the memory lane thang one day soon. lol




http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_7C0QGkiVo


Thanks!  I've got that one loading now. lol


  :)    YW..  :lol:[/quote]

Why does Arlo look so old?  I thought he was stuck in time and forbiiden to age!   :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:12:44 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..


Me 3 guys!

Although I'm sure the new site will rock, this forum is like a home away from home.  We all came together over 2 yrs ago to frantically help search for clues for Natalee.  It was exciting and scary at the same time.

Now, many months later we realize that we were all played by a corrupt government on a skanky island.  Justice would not come - at least not yet.  All the praying, sleuthing and shango-tangoing has not brought justice for Natalee - YET.

But it did bring a group of strangers together and some friendships were born and have grown... so I thank you all for the many hours of companionship.

  Awesome post Bean !! I agree


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I guess we need to get back on topic.  Shango anyone?  :lol:
 :smt039


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:13:58 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


I want to know why some think Simian is Clyde Burke.  Anyone know?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="Easywriter

I have not listened to that one in so long that I think I will have to find it and do the memory lane thang one day soon. lol




http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_7C0QGkiVo


Thanks!  I've got that one loading now. lol


  :)    YW..  :lol:


Why does Arlo look so old?  I thought he was stuck in time and forbiiden to age!   :?[/quote]

  LOL   .. he may look older but still funny as hell !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..


Me 3 guys!

Although I'm sure the new site will rock, this forum is like a home away from home.  We all came together over 2 yrs ago to frantically help search for clues for Natalee.  It was exciting and scary at the same time.

Now, many months later we realize that we were all played by a corrupt government on a skanky island.  Justice would not come - at least not yet.  All the praying, sleuthing and shango-tangoing has not brought justice for Natalee - YET.

But it did bring a group of strangers together and some friendships were born and have grown... so I thank you all for the many hours of companionship.
So true Beans!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


What do you think about the "Tribe" reference?  I have thought about that one a lot. Anyone?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 09:15:08 PM
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


Hope it's not so organized that we all have our own little cubicles, with that really bad tube lighting overhead....makes my skin look yellow that lighting does  :lol:

Destiny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 09:17:21 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


I want to know why some think Simian is Clyde Burke.  Anyone know?


that is the conclusion that Grande came to with the help of research and putting two and two together.  Klaas helped too.  Other than that, I know nothing else.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 09:17:21 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


I want to know why some think Simian is Clyde Burke.  Anyone know?


I know Klass and Grande did a lot of research that pointed to this.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: A's Fever on July 27, 2007, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc


Oh!  Dave Mason?!  Love this!  (I didn't peek :D )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:18:12 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


What do you think about the "Tribe" reference?  I have thought about that one a lot. Anyone?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words


I think the tribe refers to the Arubians.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 09:19:37 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


What do you think about the "Tribe" reference?  I have thought about that one a lot. Anyone?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words


IMO either the tribe is referencing the Arawaks or the secret society mentioned by Simian?? Any thoughts?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: JuJu on July 27, 2007, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


What do you think about the "Tribe" reference?  I have thought about that one a lot. Anyone?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words


I don't have a clue...what do you think?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 09:20:30 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


I want to know why some think Simian is Clyde Burke.  Anyone know?

I think because he mentioned something that only a police officer would know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc



  Great song  8)  Always liked it!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


What do you think about the "Tribe" reference?  I have thought about that one a lot. Anyone?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words


I take it to possibly mean the aruban people, the arawaks........


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:22:08 PM
The TRIBE is definitely in the know.  Who was in the "know"?  The ALE?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:22:56 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


Hope it's not so organized that we all have our own little cubicles, with that really bad tube lighting overhead....makes my skin look yellow that lighting does  :lol:

Destiny


That WOULD be bad, because the klan doesn't like yellow.

We should write the Birmingham, AL chapter of the Klan and let them know legal-rat claims a rather diverse group represents them on the internet.  I’m sure they will be surprised.  lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 27, 2007, 09:23:25 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


I want to know why some think Simian is Clyde Burke.  Anyone know?


I think there was a comparison between Burke being present during statements and the timing (and content) of Simian's posts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:24:25 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


I want to know why some think Simian is Clyde Burke.  Anyone know?

I think because he mentioned something that only a police officer would know.


I always thought Simian was an insider, but why this particular poliz officer?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 09:24:34 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


Hope it's not so organized that we all have our own little cubicles, with that really bad tube lighting overhead....makes my skin look yellow that lighting does  :lol:

Destiny


Do you just want to bring a lamp and put it on your desk or something?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 09:24:56 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc



  Great song  8)  Always liked it!


Yesss great song!!..A's great guess..You guys must know your stuff to know Dave Mason.. 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:26:06 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


I want to know why some think Simian is Clyde Burke.  Anyone know?


I think there was a comparison between Burke being present during statements and the timing (and content) of Simian's posts.



AHHHHH!  Now that males sense.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc



  Great song  8)  Always liked it!


Yesss great song!!..A's great guess..You guys must know your stuff to know Dave Mason.. 8)


 Loved all music growing up hon..  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


I want to know why some think Simian is Clyde Burke.  Anyone know?

I think because he mentioned something that only a police officer would know.


I always thought Simian was an insider, but why this particular poliz officer?


SunFreak here is some discussion in this thread:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=174528#174528


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 09:28:53 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


What do you think about the "Tribe" reference?  I have thought about that one a lot. Anyone?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words


I think the tribe refers to the Arubians.


BINGO to above....and the cowboys (outsiders) don't understand the local language nor OLD TIME customs...

Dest


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
When does the new forum come on line ?


Mrs. Red said the current forum was going down around 11-12pm tonight.  Not sure if that's Eastern or Central time.  Red said that the new forum will be the first thing back up. Red said it shouldn't be down more than a few hours.  Certainly by morning, the new forum should be up and running.

K... my dinner ploy worked... it's going down at 11 eastern until 2 eastern.... and I have no idea how it will work either.. they are keeping this one tight under wraps...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:30:25 PM
Quote from: "San"


SunFreak here is some discussion in this thread:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=174528#174528


thanks San!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 09:30:47 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


What do you think about the "Tribe" reference?  I have thought about that one a lot. Anyone?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words


I think the tribe refers to the Arubians.


BINGO to above....and the cowboys (outsiders) don't understand the local language nor OLD TIME customs...

Dest


I have always thought the reference to not understaning the words of the singing was outsiders being unable to speak the language or know the customs.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:30:56 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..

just think of it as new paint... in the color you want and hubby hates... it will be all good!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 09:30:58 PM
Thanks MrsRed good work  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 09:31:04 PM
Do any of you know what Dompig's job was prior to being a cop? He was a freaking tour director. No wonder he doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. He was director of "De Palm Tours" . Great job training,huh? :roll:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 09:32:48 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/monkey_cubicleLCD.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc


*******, NO YOU DIDN'T Go there... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 09:33:36 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


Hope it's not so organized that we all have our own little cubicles, with that really bad tube lighting overhead....makes my skin look yellow that lighting does  :lol:

Destiny


That WOULD be bad, because the klan doesn't like yellow.

We should write the Birmingham, AL chapter of the Klan and let them know legal-rat claims a rather diverse group represents them on the internet.  I’m sure they will be surprised.  lol


GOSH!!! You mean...if I put white sheet over my head....my heart is beating very fast here...I might...just might..... have a chance with my SECRET LOVE.....CHUCKIERAT????!!!!!!!

Dest  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:34:13 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc



  Great song  8)  Always liked it!


Yesss great song!!..A's great guess..You guys must know your stuff to know Dave Mason.. 8)


His name was the first thing I saw when I clicked the link.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 09:34:14 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/monkey_cubicleLCD.jpg)
Looks a bit like Carpe..LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 09:34:17 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"
When does the new forum come on line ?


Mrs. Red said the current forum was going down around 11-12pm tonight.  Not sure if that's Eastern or Central time.  Red said that the new forum will be the first thing back up. Red said it shouldn't be down more than a few hours.  Certainly by morning, the new forum should be up and running.

K... my dinner ploy worked... it's going down at 11 eastern until 2 eastern.... and I have no idea how it will work either.. they are keeping this one tight under wraps...


WOW - not very long at all!  Cool!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:35:14 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "shadow"
Good evening all you fabulous monkeys!

Lala's I'm up for a tango . . . what's the topic?  :)


What do you think about the "Tribe" reference?  I have thought about that one a lot. Anyone?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:55 pm
DirtyHand walks with the elders
Babylon knows
Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
The cowboys hear the singing but don’t understand the words


I think the tribe refers to the Arubians.


BINGO to above....and the cowboys (outsiders) don't understand the local language nor OLD TIME customs...

Dest


I have always thought the reference to not understaning the words of the singing was outsiders being unable to speak the language or know the customs.


Aruba is like a small town where everbody knows everybody's business.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 09:36:14 PM
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Linda in MD on July 27, 2007, 09:36:26 PM
These are 2 excerpts from the press release of the 2006 annual report of the Central Bank of Aruba at http://www.cbaruba.org/cba/readBlob.do?id=1071

After a subdued performance in 2005, activities in the tourism sector turned negative in
2006, as both stay-over visitors and their nights spent on Aruba fell by 5 percent and 4 percent, respectively, compared to a slight 1 percent rise in 2005. The Aruba Tourism
Authority attributes this contraction to increased hotel rates in combination with a decline in room availability during 2006, due to renovations and upgradings. Higher airfares caused by a rise in fuel costs also had a negative impact.

Given its acute liquidity constraints, the government’s attention is focused largely on dealing with its cash problems at hand.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:36:52 PM
I know that they have worked nonstop... I almost forgot what red looks like... good thing he needed dinner! :lol:

I am very excited about it...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:37:20 PM
Other than the obvious, what would your one wish for this case to be.....?

I would wish to know the truth about the Arubay rock videos.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
Outsiders brought into the Arawak tribe walk in many circles, nameless


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 09:37:35 PM
Hi Monkeys.  Only about and hour and half till the change over.  This is exciting.  Are we going to do a countdown?  Klaas, will you lead the countdown?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 09:38:24 PM
Ooops.  I thought the change over was coming tonight.  I see by the counter it won't be until Sunday. Is this right?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 09:39:05 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


Hope it's not so organized that we all have our own little cubicles, with that really bad tube lighting overhead....makes my skin look yellow that lighting does  :lol:

Destiny


Do you just want to bring a lamp and put it on your desk or something?


And pray tell....just what am I supposed to do with all these hanging plants in all that artificial light???? go on write me up...I don't care cuz this reality will go POOF in a few hours antway  :)

Dest...havin' some fun here


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc


*******, NO YOU DIDN'T Go there... :lol:


I did :) I had a feeling you and Angie would dig the song..I couldnt read Easy's small writing but I think he admitted he cheated.. 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:40:47 PM
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 09:42:09 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..


Me 3 guys!

Although I'm sure the new site will rock, this forum is like a home away from home.  We all came together over 2 yrs ago to frantically help search for clues for Natalee.  It was exciting and scary at the same time.

Now, many months later we realize that we were all played by a corrupt government on a skanky island.  Justice would not come - at least not yet.  All the praying, sleuthing and shango-tangoing has not brought justice for Natalee - YET.

But it did bring a group of strangers together and some friendships were born and have grown... so I thank you all for the many hours of companionship.

Great post Frijole
Yes Scared Monkeys allowed a lot of people to come together for a common cause.. Friendships were made / fellowship shared.

It's hard to find Justice when the deck is stacked against you but nothing is impossilbe ,AND   YES  miracles do happen.

Sorry way behind...
I had to get the band
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1917


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:42:09 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I am beginning to get a little nervous about this change.  I really am...maybe it's just me.


 I kinda am too Lalas..

just think of it as new paint... in the color you want and hubby hates... it will be all good!!!


 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:43:35 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I hope we get new wallpaper too...maybe some new carpet.  The colors we have now are clashing with my muffs.  :lol:


I suspect the color scheme will be different, but not positive.  The forum will look different but I'm told more organized?


Hope it's not so organized that we all have our own little cubicles, with that really bad tube lighting overhead....makes my skin look yellow that lighting does  :lol:

Destiny


Do you just want to bring a lamp and put it on your desk or something?


And pray tell....just what am I supposed to do with all these hanging plants in all that artificial light???? go on write me up...I don't care cuz this reality will go POOF in a few hours antway  :)

Dest...havin' some fun here


We will each have our own cube, topic and discussion with ourselves.   :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 09:44:02 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/monkey_cubicleLCD.jpg)


OH Klaas....me thinks me wet me panties on that one
Bwwwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha....

Destiny :cheers:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 09:44:04 PM
Well  monkeys, I'm not sure if today was a good day or not.

We decided to go to Hyde and Beach Streets and catch the cable car, as we didn't think it was possible to visit San Francisco without riding a cable car. Anyway, as luck would have it, there had been a problem with the cable cars that morning, and they didn't run for a while. That meant zillions of people were lined up at all the cable car stops waiting to get on.

Anyhoo, we rode to the end of the line and they said we had to get off the cable car and get in line to get back on and ride back to the hotel. There were long lines waiting, so Donna and I climbed a ginormous hill trying to walk back. We got to the top, and stopped to rest next to a cable car stop. A car came along that was fully loaded, but the driver stopped and said he'd squeeze us on. When we got on, he made people scrunch up and make room for me to sit, but Donna had to stand.

My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:44:17 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc


*******, NO YOU DIDN'T Go there... :lol:


I did :) I had a feeling you and Angie would dig the song..I couldnt read Easy's small writing but I think he admitted he cheated.. 8)

Oh I took it more to mean our theories... like a pun...

I do like that song though! :lol:   I am really much more of an ACDC kind of gal though.... Thunderstruck...anyone?  or G&R... Welcome to the Jungle... :oops:  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


high school....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 09:45:24 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Ooops.  I thought the change over was coming tonight.  I see by the counter it won't be until Sunday. Is this right?

That is wrong AZLady.  It's going down tonight from 11 eastern until 2 eastern.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 09:45:36 PM
Just wish we all got a pea-shooter for the trolls... :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


1977--I was finally beginning to figure out my life and how to make a living.  Five years after college graduation and into my first real job.  Married, no kids, and went to Europe that summer for the first time.  Life was good.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


I always thought the Arawak reference meant native arubans, but I may be completely off.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Other than the obvious, what would your one wish for this case to be.....?

I would wish to know the truth about the Arubay rock videos.


I would like for something of Natalee to be found.  God can deal with the rest of it....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


Not sure when it came out but probably elementary school or junior high school :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Ooops.  I thought the change over was coming tonight.  I see by the counter it won't be until Sunday. Is this right?

No, it's going down at 11 est time... and back up around 2 est... that is what I have been told, anyway...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Ooops.  I thought the change over was coming tonight.  I see by the counter it won't be until Sunday. Is this right?

That is wrong AZLady.  It's going down tonight from 11 eastern until 2 eastern.


Thanks San.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 09:48:23 PM
BT.. not old! Maybe your feet looked more tired and she based it on that :lol:  :lol:  or she was a sock monkey fan/collector and ESP or maybe another Scared Monkey??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


The original tribe that brought the *secrets* to the island in the first place...the original settlers yeppers.

Dest


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 09:48:40 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
BT.. not old! Maybe your feet looked more tired and she based it on that :lol:  :lol:  or she was a sock monkey fan/collector and ESP or maybe another Scared Monkey??


The driver was a him, and Donna is the same age as me.

I look old!!!! Wahhhhhhh!!!!!! :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


 :shock:  I was approx 13 yrs old then.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 09:50:15 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


I always took the words Tribe and Arawaks to mean the same people--the native Arubans.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
Outsiders brought into the Arawak tribe walk in many circles, nameless

 :shock:
Chit that sounds Like Beth and company run around in circles by RenHo and company


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 09:50:30 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Hi Monkeys.  Only about and hour and half till the change over.  This is exciting.  Are we going to do a countdown?  Klaas, will you lead the countdown?


http://www.makecountdowns.com/show.php?id=82121


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


Not that I know how to tango... but sounds like jvds-babylonian, shivas=kalpoes and arawaks would be either attorneys, anita and paulus, or ALE


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 27, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Well  monkeys, I'm not sure if today was a good day or not.

We decided to go to Hyde and Beach Streets and catch the cable car, as we didn't think it was possible to visit San Francisco without riding a cable car. Anyway, as luck would have it, there had been a problem with the cable cars that morning, and they didn't run for a while. That meant zillions of people were lined up at all the cable car stops waiting to get on.

Anyhoo, we rode to the end of the line and they said we had to get off the cable car and get in line to get back on and ride back to the hotel. There were long lines waiting, so Donna and I climbed a ginormous hill trying to walk back. We got to the top, and stopped to rest next to a cable car stop. A car came along that was fully loaded, but the driver stopped and said he'd squeeze us on. When we got on, he made people scrunch up and make room for me to sit, but Donna had to stand.

My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Your little socky guys just looked pooped out and the driver wanted them to rest ~ no reflection on our BT!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:52:54 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/monkey_cubicleLCD.jpg)


OH Klaas....me thinks me wet me panties on that one
Bwwwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha....

Destiny :cheers:


 LMAO..  Have a depends Destiny.. we used to pass those around here long ago.. :wink:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/depends.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "IBE"
BT.. not old! Maybe your feet looked more tired and she based it on that :lol:  :lol:  or she was a sock monkey fan/collector and ESP or maybe another Scared Monkey??


The driver was a him, and Donna is the same age as me.

I look old!!!! Wahhhhhhh!!!!!! :cry:


It's not the age - it's the little legs.  I've met you, & you don't look old to me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 09:53:53 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Hi Monkeys.  Only about and hour and half till the change over.  This is exciting.  Are we going to do a countdown?  Klaas, will you lead the countdown?


http://www.makecountdowns.com/show.php?id=82121
LOL!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "IBE"
BT.. not old! Maybe your feet looked more tired and she based it on that :lol:  :lol:  or she was a sock monkey fan/collector and ESP or maybe another Scared Monkey??


The driver was a him, and Donna is the same age as me.

I look old!!!! Wahhhhhhh!!!!!! :cry:


It's not the age - it's the little legs.  I've met you, & you don't look old to me.


Phew! Thank you, SunFreak! That makes me feel a lot better. I was gettin' ready to move into a nursing home when I got back to Tennessee. :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"

<<snip>>
My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


NO just  out of shape  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc


*******, NO YOU DIDN'T Go there... :lol:


I did :) I had a feeling you and Angie would dig the song..I couldnt read Easy's small writing but I think he admitted he cheated.. 8)

Oh I took it more to mean our theories... like a pun...

I do like that song though! :lol:   I am really much more of an ACDC kind of gal though.... Thunderstruck...anyone?  or G&R... Welcome to the Jungle... :oops:  :oops:


Bah..No because some of them know the truth and still disagree  :wink:

Actually thats my type of music but I figured Dave Mason was good for this group... G&R was great while they lasted..What a shame!! Why do all girls love shook me all night long by acdc?? That song goes goes on at a club and the girls go wild  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone



Arawaks are ALE.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 09:57:01 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "BTgirl"

<<snip>>
My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


NO just  out of shape  :lol:  :lol:


How could you describe me so perfectly without every having met me?  You must be psychic!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 09:57:03 PM
Klaas, I thought Mrs. Red said 11 PM Eastern time.  The timer clock says we have four hours to go, but it's 7 PM here now.  So, it must be Pacific time, huh?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 09:58:12 PM
BTgal, glad you are having a good time in SF. I rode cable cars over the Alp mountains in Germany....never again!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 09:58:16 PM
*******... I do love that song....

but I really, really like Thunderstruck!!  

As for G&R... yeah too bad they aren't around... I love all the 80's stuff too!!   I pretty much listen to everything...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 09:58:24 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/monkey_cubicleLCD.jpg)


OH Klaas....me thinks me wet me panties on that one
Bwwwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha....

Destiny :cheers:


 LMAO..  Have a depends Destiny.. we used to pass those around here long ago.. :wink:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/depends.jpg)


Thanks Angie...May I Please keep the whole box....think I'm gonna need them...I'm sure I can find room for them somewhere in my widdle cubicle in the new forum...maybe under my plastic plant .

Dest :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 09:58:51 PM
Jossy trusts KJ & JvdStraaten. Could their be a term for the good ALE vs the bad ALE in Shango?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "IBE"
BT.. not old! Maybe your feet looked more tired and she based it on that :lol:  :lol:  or she was a sock monkey fan/collector and ESP or maybe another Scared Monkey??


The driver was a him, and Donna is the same age as me.

I look old!!!! Wahhhhhhh!!!!!! :cry:


It's not the age - it's the little legs.  I've met you, & you don't look old to me.


Phew! Thank you, SunFreak! That makes me feel a lot better. I was gettin' ready to move into a nursing home when I got back to Tennessee. :shock:



 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Klaas, I thought Mrs. Red said 11 PM Eastern time.  The timer clock says we have four hours to go, but it's 7 PM here now.  So, it must be Pacific time, huh?

I'm going by the time she said the new forum would come back up.  So if it comes back up at 2am, then that's 4 hours from now eastern, right?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 09:59:58 PM
I haven't read back, so you may have talked about this, but has anyone asked Jossy about the Karen Janssen/PVDS affair?  His response?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:00:46 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Klaas, I thought Mrs. Red said 11 PM Eastern time.  The timer clock says we have four hours to go, but it's 7 PM here now.  So, it must be Pacific time, huh?

I'm going by the time she said the new forum would come back up.  So if it comes back up at 2am, then that's 4 hours from now eastern, right?


I gotcha!!  I was looking at it as a countdown to when this forum went down.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:00:51 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 10:01:05 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Jossy trusts KJ & JvdStraaten. Could their be a term for the good ALE vs the bad ALE in Shango?


Very astute question. I would say it is possible but would not even know where to begin to reference it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 10:01:20 PM
Heres a cheat sheet for all that want to tango 8) Or at least pretend like you know what goin on :lol:

*Mary=Natalee
*The Lamb=Joran
*Shivas=Kalpoe brothers
*Dirty Hand=police commissioner Van Der Straaten
*The Elder=Paulus Van Der Sloot
*His Lordship=unknown; maybe the Aruban Prime Minister
*Sumerians= maybe American government officials or Jossy Mansur, head of Diario
*Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba
*Arawaks=native Arubans
*Arawak King=Prime Minister
*Roll=reference to doing the drug ecstasy; doing X is called ërollingí
*Keystone=Dirty Hand=the center of corruption, which will expose this crime and other corruption
*The Lions=the truly dangerous people involved in underworld
http://www.mcharvey.com/shango/shango.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two ShivasThey were never alone


When was the police car  tape made.. ???


Arawaks are ALE.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: A's Fever on July 27, 2007, 10:02:08 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc



  Great song  8)  Always liked it!


Yesss great song!!..A's great guess..You guys must know your stuff to know Dave Mason.. 8)


I really like the guitar work in this song.  I've tried to play it . . . to no avail!  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


I think the kitty is there to comfort them, he isn't bad...

sorry for all the O/T.. but I tangoed a minute ago and no one answered... :roll:   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/monkey_cubicleLCD.jpg)


OH Klaas....me thinks me wet me panties on that one
Bwwwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha....

Destiny :cheers:


 LMAO..  Have a depends Destiny.. we used to pass those around here long ago.. :wink:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/depends.jpg)


Thanks Angie...May I Please keep the whole box....think I'm gonna need them...I'm sure I can find room for them somewhere in my widdle cubicle in the new forum...maybe under my plastic plant .

Dest :D



 :lol:  Sure hon.. take the whole box!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "BTgirl"

<<snip>>
My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


NO just  out of shape  :lol:  :lol:


How could you describe me so perfectly without every having met me?  You must be psychic!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


I know you are NOT old... and lugging Two Sock Monkey around up-hill would make anyone seemout of shape or out of their mind... :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


I think the kitty is there to comfort them, he isn't bad...

sorry for all the O/T.. but I tangoed a minute ago and no one answered... :roll:   :lol:


If we're on the final countdown to the end of the old forum (and thread #666  :shock: ), I think everything should be considered On Topic.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 10:04:34 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


I always took the words Tribe and Arawaks to mean the same people--the native Arubans.


I think you are right and Tribe means arubian populace. Not sure why sometimes he capitalizes Arawaks and other times not. He also uses" indian" to refer to arubians too i think. I think some of these analogies were likely thought  of before the actual Shango posts. Thsi is just an impression i get .

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:04:39 PM
BT, if you aren't old now, then hiking up and down the hills in SF will make you feel old!  I had the same experience with a cable car there.  I was not as impressed with them at the end of the day as when I first arrived in the city.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:04:49 PM
gosh there is so much stuff we have seen over the past two years... my one thought other than Natalee's return... or what can be  :cry:  :cry:

would be to know if shango was real or someone jerking our collective chains?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: CJ1 on July 27, 2007, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Other than the obvious, what would your one wish for this case to be.....?

I would wish to know the truth about the Arubay rock videos.


I would like for something of Natalee to be found.  God can deal with the rest of it....


Like Jim Carey in Liar, Liar I want Joran to NOT be able to tell a lie.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:05:25 PM
Pssssttttt.....I heard a rumor that our Angie LOVES Charlierat.  :shock:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 10:05:28 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Heres a cheat sheet for all that want to tango 8) Or at least pretend like you know what goin on :lol:

*Mary=Natalee
*The Lamb=Joran
*Shivas=Kalpoe brothers
*Dirty Hand=police commissioner Van Der Straaten
*The Elder=Paulus Van Der Sloot
*His Lordship=unknown; maybe the Aruban Prime Minister
*Sumerians= maybe American government officials or Jossy Mansur, head of Diario
*Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba
*Arawaks=native Arubans
*Arawak King=Prime Minister
*Roll=reference to doing the drug ecstasy; doing X is called ërollingí
*Keystone=Dirty Hand=the center of corruption, which will expose this crime and other corruption
*The Lions=the truly dangerous people involved in underworld
http://www.mcharvey.com/shango/shango.html


Thanks *******!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


 :shock:  I was approx 13 yrs old then.   :lol:


What about the Rolling Stones in 1973?  Give me the title!

Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:05:56 PM
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From reading the junk in the book The World According to Joran or whatever it's called, and from any other sources - how far back in time can we account for his drug use, like to about what age?


My answer  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/joranbaby3.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


 :shock:  I was approx 13 yrs old then.   :lol:


What about the Rolling Stones in 1973?  Give me the title!

Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied



ANGIE... david bowie's wife.... at that time anyway...  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


 :shock:  I was approx 13 yrs old then.   :lol:


What about the Rolling Stones in 1973?  Give me the title!

Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied


and btw, I was only 11 at the time...  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
BT, if you aren't old now, then hiking up and down the hills in SF will make you feel old!  I had the same experience with a cable car there.  I was not as impressed with them at the end of the day as when I first arrived in the city.


Well, let's just say once was enough for me. I don't think I'll be paying them another $10.00 for that particular experience.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


I always took the words Tribe and Arawaks to mean the same people--the native Arubans.


I think you are right and Tribe means arubian populace. Not sure why sometimes he capitalizes Arawaks and other times not. He also uses" indian" to refer to arubians too i think. I think some of these analogies were likely thought  of before the actual Shango posts. Thsi is just an impression i get .

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Good points. How does Simian's language/references differ with Simians?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


I think the kitty is there to comfort them, he isn't bad...

sorry for all the O/T.. but I tangoed a minute ago and no one answered... :roll:   :lol:


  I dont think kitty is all that bad either. Its actually sad.  :(
 As far as a tango Mrs.. I suck.. but do enjoy reading what others make of it all.
 Now dancing... I can do that.. even with a boo boo.. lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 10:07:43 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


I always took the words Tribe and Arawaks to mean the same people--the native Arubans.


I think you are right and Tribe means arubian populace. Not sure why sometimes he capitalizes Arawaks and other times not. He also uses" indian" to refer to arubians too i think. I think some of these analogies were likely thought  of before the actual Shango posts. Thsi is just an impression i get .

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun



If Babylonians are the Dutch elite, who is the singing Babylonian?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Heres a cheat sheet for all that want to tango 8) Or at least pretend like you know what goin on :lol:

*Mary=Natalee
*The Lamb=Joran
*Shivas=Kalpoe brothers
*Dirty Hand=police commissioner Van Der Straaten
*The Elder=Paulus Van Der Sloot
*His Lordship=unknown; maybe the Aruban Prime Minister
*Sumerians= maybe American government officials or Jossy Mansur, head of Diario
*Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba
*Arawaks=native Arubans
*Arawak King=Prime Minister
*Roll=reference to doing the drug ecstasy; doing X is called ërollingí
*Keystone=Dirty Hand=the center of corruption, which will expose this crime and other corruption
*The Lions=the truly dangerous people involved in underworld
http://www.mcharvey.com/shango/shango.html


We were wondering about the Tribe reference.......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:08:11 PM
too funny Klaas... that's awesome!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 10:08:47 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
GrannyToad
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Posts: 7118
« Reply #10 on: Today at 17:55:41 »  

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From reading the junk in the book The World According to Joran or whatever it's called, and from any other sources - how far back in time can we account for his drug use, like to about what age?


My answer  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/joranbaby3.jpg)


 :lol:  :lol: Yep I would say that's right.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: "A's Fever"
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc



  Great song  8)  Always liked it!


Yesss great song!!..A's great guess..You guys must know your stuff to know Dave Mason.. 8)


I really like the guitar work in this song.  I've tried to play it . . . to no avail!  :roll:


Funny you should mention that.. I noticed he has 9 Guitar lessons on youtube :wink:

 http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ePycnMTOTl8&mode=related&search=


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:09:43 PM
Too funny, Klaas!!!!! :lol:   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:10:04 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Pssssttttt.....I heard a rumor that our Angie LOVES Charlierat.  :shock:  :lol:


 Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  its a secret.. but guess its out now..   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 10:10:37 PM
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough

This sounds like Joran and the 2 Kalpoes IMO Was this when they were each separately taking ALE to the fishermans huts? Can't remember.......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


 :shock:  I was approx 13 yrs old then.   :lol:


What about the Rolling Stones in 1973?  Give me the title!

Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied


and btw, I was only 11 at the time...  :lol:


Easywriter: Is it Angie?  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:11:06 PM
*******...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XO5Xd7_MXn4


thunderstruck... :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:11:48 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


I always took the words Tribe and Arawaks to mean the same people--the native Arubans.


I think you are right and Tribe means arubian populace. Not sure why sometimes he capitalizes Arawaks and other times not. He also uses" indian" to refer to arubians too i think. I think some of these analogies were likely thought  of before the actual Shango posts. Thsi is just an impression i get .

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


I do believe Shango is showing his American roots here.  Pemmican and wampum are American Indian terms, aren't they?  I doubt they are used in the Caribbean folklore.  This post looks to me like Shango is trying way too hard to emphasize the "cowboy" and "Indian" allusions--he's practically shoving it down our throats with the pemmican and wampum references.  Kind of like, he's saying I'm using the cowboy and Indian references to show you these are enemies, so do you get it?  Yes, we get it, Shango.  

Then, he is saying JVDS and the Kalpoes are still jailed and talking, and these three are enough to put in jail.  Really, Shango?  I have my doubts, but I see what you mean.
I'm not sure what the last three lines mean.  

His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:12:14 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


1977--I was finally beginning to figure out my life and how to make a living.  Five years after college graduation and into my first real job.  Married, no kids, and went to Europe that summer for the first time.  Life was good.


Funny how old songs can take you to a place that lives so vividly in a memory, yet put away out of necessity.

A friend had bought the brand new Billy Joel 8-Track tape and it filled the car as we drove down to Nu Awlins with a couple of girls.  Our hotel was in Fat City and we finally tripped the lock about daylight.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


 :shock:  I was approx 13 yrs old then.   :lol:


What about the Rolling Stones in 1973?  Give me the title!

Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied


 :twisted:    Angie.. and thats one song by the Stones I never liked.. lol
 I have people sing it to me at work over the yrs.. drove me nuts!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/monkey_cubicleLCD.jpg)


OH Klaas....me thinks me wet me panties on that one
Bwwwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha....

Destiny :cheers:


 LMAO..  Have a depends Destiny.. we used to pass those around here long ago.. :wink:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/depends.jpg)


Thanks Angie...May I Please keep the whole box....think I'm gonna need them...I'm sure I can find room for them somewhere in my widdle cubicle in the new forum...maybe under my plastic plant .

Dest :D



 :lol:  Sure hon.. take the whole box!!


And DESTINY...with the new lighting,  just use lots of Bronzer and a smacking of blush..works wonders.  You  will wonder where the yellow went, when you dust your face with Bronzoment!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:14:32 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


 :shock:  I was approx 13 yrs old then.   :lol:


What about the Rolling Stones in 1973?  Give me the title!

Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied


and btw, I was only 11 at the time...  :lol:



  LMAO  I was 8   8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Pssssttttt.....I heard a rumor that our Angie LOVES Charlierat.  :shock:  :lol:


 Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  its a secret.. but guess its out now..   :wink:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/AngieCR2.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: shadow on July 27, 2007, 10:16:03 PM
Goodnight Monkeys! Look forward to seeing everyone in the new cage tomorrow.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 10:17:05 PM
shango also references teepee's which are American indian


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Pssssttttt.....I heard a rumor that our Angie LOVES Charlierat.  :shock:  :lol:


 Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  its a secret.. but guess its out now..   :wink:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/AngieCR2.gif)


I must say, they do make a lovely couple.  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 10:17:55 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


I always took the words Tribe and Arawaks to mean the same people--the native Arubans.


I think you are right and Tribe means arubian populace. Not sure why sometimes he capitalizes Arawaks and other times not. He also uses" indian" to refer to arubians too i think. I think some of these analogies were likely thought  of before the actual Shango posts. Thsi is just an impression i get .

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


I do believe Shango is showing his American roots here.  Pemmican and wampum are American Indian terms, aren't they?  I doubt they are used in the Caribbean folklore.  This post looks to me like Shango is trying way too hard to emphasize the "cowboy" and "Indian" allusions--he's practically shoving it down our throats with the pemmican and wampum references.  Kind of like, he's saying I'm using the cowboy and Indian references to show you these are enemies, so do you get it?  Yes, we get it, Shango.  

Then, he is saying JVDS and the Kalpoes are still jailed and talking, and these three are enough to put in jail.  Really, Shango?  I have my doubts, but I see what you mean.
I'm not sure what the last three lines mean.  

His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun



Someone intervened to stop the investigation thus limiting it to the trio singing.
We will not know the answer and will keep picking at what we know to try to solve it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:18:15 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Goodnight Monkeys! Look forward to seeing everyone in the new cage tomorrow.


Night Shadow. See you at the new house.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Well  monkeys, I'm not sure if today was a good day or not.

We decided to go to Hyde and Beach Streets and catch the cable car, as we didn't think it was possible to visit San Francisco without riding a cable car. Anyway, as luck would have it, there had been a problem with the cable cars that morning, and they didn't run for a while. That meant zillions of people were lined up at all the cable car stops waiting to get on.

Anyhoo, we rode to the end of the line and they said we had to get off the cable car and get in line to get back on and ride back to the hotel. There were long lines waiting, so Donna and I climbed a ginormous hill trying to walk back. We got to the top, and stopped to rest next to a cable car stop. A car came along that was fully loaded, but the driver stopped and said he'd squeeze us on. When we got on, he made people scrunch up and make room for me to sit, but Donna had to stand.

My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


Maybe he just thought you were scrunchable!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:18:46 PM
Quote from: "shadow"
Goodnight Monkeys! Look forward to seeing everyone in the new cage tomorrow.


Nite Shadow


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough

This sounds like Joran and the 2 Kalpoes IMO Was this when they were each separately taking ALE to the fishermans huts? Can't remember.......


I thought it was
Quote
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone

As in bugs / mics..  and note "the Babylonian" Singular and "Two Shivas"
Plura..

Not sure how that would work / not work in shange code  for Babylonian / Shiva...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:19:27 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Well  monkeys, I'm not sure if today was a good day or not.

We decided to go to Hyde and Beach Streets and catch the cable car, as we didn't think it was possible to visit San Francisco without riding a cable car. Anyway, as luck would have it, there had been a problem with the cable cars that morning, and they didn't run for a while. That meant zillions of people were lined up at all the cable car stops waiting to get on.

Anyhoo, we rode to the end of the line and they said we had to get off the cable car and get in line to get back on and ride back to the hotel. There were long lines waiting, so Donna and I climbed a ginormous hill trying to walk back. We got to the top, and stopped to rest next to a cable car stop. A car came along that was fully loaded, but the driver stopped and said he'd squeeze us on. When we got on, he made people scrunch up and make room for me to sit, but Donna had to stand.

My question is - if the driver makes people scrunch up and let you sit - does that mean you look really, really old?  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


Maybe he just thought you were scrunchable!


Ooooh!! That sounds kinda kinky.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:19:33 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
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From reading the junk in the book The World According to Joran or whatever it's called, and from any other sources - how far back in time can we account for his drug use, like to about what age?


My answer  :lol:

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  ROFL... Eweeeeeeeeeeeee  Rolling Rock sucks.. Smells like skunk piss.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 10:19:56 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XO5Xd7_MXn4


thunderstruck... :wink:


Now you got me rockin out :P I think that and Back in Black are my fav's :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: SunFreak2 on July 27, 2007, 10:20:06 PM
Nitey Nite Monks!

See you in the new building.


Mr Sandman.......bring me a dream.......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:20:29 PM
Lala's, this might be heresy, but I don't think too much of Shango.  Actually, I think he was one of the primary players in the misinformation campaign.  Since there was so much chatter about the case on the blogs and in internet discussions, I believe Shango's riddles were created to distract and detract the internet community.  Online games and riddles have been used in the past to introduce new products and garner interest before the introduction of a new book, movie, or product.  I do believe Shango was created as a PR stunt and thrown at the internet community to spread disinformation in the case.  I think he was discontinued when the FBI and the Holloway family looked into who he was and his information sources.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:21:27 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Nitey Nite Monks!

See you in the new building.


Mr Sandman.......bring me a dream.......


Nite SunFreak.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 10:21:27 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Heres a cheat sheet for all that want to tango 8) Or at least pretend like you know what goin on :lol:

*Mary=Natalee
*The Lamb=Joran
*Shivas=Kalpoe brothers
*Dirty Hand=police commissioner Van Der Straaten
*The Elder=Paulus Van Der Sloot
*His Lordship=unknown; maybe the Aruban Prime Minister
*Sumerians= maybe American government officials or Jossy Mansur, head of Diario
*Babylonians=European (Dutch) influence on Aruba
*Arawaks=native Arubans
*Arawak King=Prime Minister
*Roll=reference to doing the drug ecstasy; doing X is called ërollingí
*Keystone=Dirty Hand=the center of corruption, which will expose this crime and other corruption
*The Lions=the truly dangerous people involved in underworld
http://www.mcharvey.com/shango/shango.html


Just so you know..there are some of the old code talkers that do not agree with the scenario laid out above.  Not that I am one of them, because I was never a code talker...too afraid I would look dumb if I spoke up.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XO5Xd7_MXn4


thunderstruck... :wink:


 8)  I posted that in out music thread before.. which I hope we get to keep  :)
  One of my fav AC/DS songs!    8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:22:58 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Lala's, this might be heresy, but I don't think too much of Shango.  Actually, I think he was one of the primary players in the misinformation campaign.  Since there was so much chatter about the case on the blogs and in internet discussions, I believe Shango's riddles were created to distract and detract the internet community.  Online games and riddles have been used in the past to introduce new products and garner interest before the introduction of a new book, movie, or product.  I do believe Shango was created as a PR stunt and thrown at the internet community to spread disinformation in the case.  I think he was discontinued when the FBI and the Holloway family looked into who he was and his information sources.


You may be right about Shango.  I do believe Simian was sharing actual information with us.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


I think the kitty is there to comfort them, he isn't bad...

sorry for all the O/T.. but I tangoed a minute ago and no one answered... :roll:   :lol:


If we're on the final countdown to the end of the old forum (and thread #666  :shock: ), I think everything should be considered On Topic.  :D


I must say PARTY DOWN tonight and toast the familiar farewell…..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:23:57 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:23:59 PM
Nite Shawdow and Sun ... have a great nite!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


it's a kitty that lives in a nursing home and comforts the elderly right before they pass away....

the forum is shutting down at 11 est.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:26:34 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Lala's, this might be heresy, but I don't think too much of Shango.  Actually, I think he was one of the primary players in the misinformation campaign.  Since there was so much chatter about the case on the blogs and in internet discussions, I believe Shango's riddles were created to distract and detract the internet community.  Online games and riddles have been used in the past to introduce new products and garner interest before the introduction of a new book, movie, or product.  I do believe Shango was created as a PR stunt and thrown at the internet community to spread disinformation in the case.  I think he was discontinued when the FBI and the Holloway family looked into who he was and his information sources.


You may be right about Shango.  I do believe Simian was sharing actual information with us.


I agree, Klaas.  Simian's posts correspond with the PV's and the facts we now know.  But Shango's puzzles were too scripted and often enigmatic to be information sharing.  He attained his purpose--we are all still talking about him two years later!!  Any PR firm would be proud.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:26:35 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Where were you when Billy Joel first hit the top 40 with "Movin' Out?"


 :shock:  I was approx 13 yrs old then.   :lol:


What about the Rolling Stones in 1973?  Give me the title!

Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied


and btw, I was only 11 at the time...  :lol:


You guys are too good not to have even live through the music! lol  Yeah, it was Angie.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


Hi Mishy. I don't remember the location, but it's a standoffish kitty in a nursing home. It doesn't normally approach people, but the last 25 times it has become friendly with one of the residents, they person has died within 4 hours.  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "*******"
Heres a cheat sheet for all that want to tango 8)


Just so you know..there are some of the old code talkers that do not agree with the scenario laid out above.  Not that I am one of them, because I was never a code talker...too afraid I would look dumb if I spoke up.  :roll:


I hear ya..I don't tango very much so I use that for a reference:wink: I say we call the thread in the new forum Lala's Tango with Shango   8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:27:08 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


The forum goes down at 11pm Eastern time and hopefully will be back up by 2am Eastern time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:27:14 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Pssssttttt.....I heard a rumor that our Angie LOVES Charlierat.  :shock:  :lol:


 Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  its a secret.. but guess its out now..   :wink:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/AngieCR2.gif)


   LMAO    :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Love it  and I sure hope my new boyfriend does too. I  would hate to make Bmom jealous..  She needs to just realize he wants me and not her and get over it.. :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: "AZSunny"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/monkey_cubicleLCD.jpg)


OH Klaas....me thinks me wet me panties on that one
Bwwwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha....

Destiny :cheers:


 LMAO..  Have a depends Destiny.. we used to pass those around here long ago.. :wink:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/depends.jpg)


Thanks Angie...May I Please keep the whole box....think I'm gonna need them...I'm sure I can find room for them somewhere in my widdle cubicle in the new forum...maybe under my plastic plant .

Dest :D



 :lol:  Sure hon.. take the whole box!!


And DESTINY...with the new lighting,  just use lots of Bronzer and a smacking of blush..works wonders.  You  will wonder where the yellow went, when you dust your face with Bronzoment!


Miss Klass....just how many pairs of clean/dry undies do you think I have?...Huh??????

Angie Sweetums....please pass the depends again..

Thanks.......Angie....BTW...ChuckieRat sent me flowers 2day...thought he waz Your ManRat

Destiny  :smt060


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Karo on July 27, 2007, 10:28:55 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
A friend had bought the brand new Billy Joel 8-Track tape and it filled the car as we drove down to Nu Awlins with a couple of girls.  Our hotel was in Fat City and we finally tripped the lock about daylight.


Easy, it was so funny to read this.  I am VERY near Fat City right now and you would not recognize Fat City.  It's gone down a lot  :(  but there are still nice neighborhoods nearby.  

In 1977 I was in Baton Rouge.

30 minutes left?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 10:30:35 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Lala's, this might be heresy, but I don't think too much of Shango.  Actually, I think he was one of the primary players in the misinformation campaign.  Since there was so much chatter about the case on the blogs and in internet discussions, I believe Shango's riddles were created to distract and detract the internet community.  Online games and riddles have been used in the past to introduce new products and garner interest before the introduction of a new book, movie, or product.  I do believe Shango was created as a PR stunt and thrown at the internet community to spread disinformation in the case.  I think he was discontinued when the FBI and the Holloway family looked into who he was and his information sources.


Well, here's my theory...Shango was in a different area of the situation than Simian.  Simian was all ALE.  Simian never said one word about the ALE having any corrupt people. Anyone that studies this stuff for very long will realize that Simian supported the efforts of the ALE and you could not convince Simian that everything possible wasn't being done to find Natalee.  One the other side was Shango.  Shango had information that Simian didn't have.  It's there in the verses.  Shango used more symbolism than Simian.  Simian spoke plainly and Shango wanted to be more cryptic.  One thing that I find confusing when others say Shango was the disinformation side is how do you justify that given that even Shango knew things when Simian didn't.  Shango insisted there was drugs involved and went so far as to tell the location of a good place to find them.  We would not know about the rave parties were it not for Shango.  If Shango had been totally about disinformation then he would never have mentioned the raves, the lions, or even Dirty Hand.  If Shango wanted to divert everything away from what was really happening on Aruba he did a piss poor job of it, IMO.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 10:31:07 PM
Anyone else feeling a little apprehensive (and nostalgic) about this forum changeover LOL?

I feel like "Oh, no. we are about to lose our old friend and we don't know what we're getting back in return..." We are always afraid of change.

BUT I KNOW it will be better and I have all the confidence in the world in Red and Dugga and all our technoMonkeys who will see this through.

Gotta read back... FAST  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


it's a kitty that lives in a nursing home and comforts the elderly right before they pass away....

the forum is shutting down at 11 est.


awwww, that's a sweet kitty...

So we only have 25 minutes?????

Angus was always one of my faves!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:33:26 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


Hi Mishy. I don't remember the location, but it's a standoffish kitty in a nursing home. It doesn't normally approach people, but the last 25 times it has become friendly with one of the residents, they person has died within 4 hours.  :shock:


Wow, that's really a trip!! truly...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 10:33:28 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough

This sounds like Joran and the 2 Kalpoes IMO Was this when they were each separately taking ALE to the fishermans huts? Can't remember.......


I thought it was
Quote
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas

They were never alone

As in bugs / mics..  and note "the Babylonian" Singular and "Two Shivas"
Plura..

Not sure how that would work / not work in shange code  for Babylonian / Shiva...


I am sure you are right OF that is likely another few lines. There is a
whole section of references to indians, and "can't count on the cowboys", and singing........here are a couple more.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:49 pm
Elder needs to sing to preserve his lineage
To agree to remain silent is to agree not to hum any tune
The Arawaks are desperate, they fear for the tribe, they do not want war with the cowboys
But the loot remains hidden
And the Arawaks keep their singing card hidden as well
The fallen judge and the singing card are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys
Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:57 pm
The Arawaks may not need to play the singing card
The cowboys won’t hear the music and the teepees will be safe
Wampum is needed as the doors closed on Eden


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:34:47 PM
angie, you have mail...reading back now


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:35:35 PM
I am feeling nostalic...

Bendex... where in the world is bendex

scandi nor...

the duct tape experiments...

learning how to function on 3 hours of sleep at first because I couldn't leave the cage....

so many people I have missed...  (I see SouthGaGirl out there... she was recovering from breast cancer as I recall.)  

there have been so many prayers said and tears and hugs shed for each other as well as the family....

tickle me tito....




but I am ready at the same time to see the new stuff...!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 10:35:44 PM
Howdy Everyone!!   :D

I'm getting nervous about the move to our new home.  Hope I don't get lost.  Lala's I'm gonna try to work on some of my old Shango stuff this weekend.  I'll bring it to the new house. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 10:36:31 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Lala's, this might be heresy, but I don't think too much of Shango.  Actually, I think he was one of the primary players in the misinformation campaign.  Since there was so much chatter about the case on the blogs and in internet discussions, I believe Shango's riddles were created to distract and detract the internet community.  Online games and riddles have been used in the past to introduce new products and garner interest before the introduction of a new book, movie, or product.  I do believe Shango was created as a PR stunt and thrown at the internet community to spread disinformation in the case.  I think he was discontinued when the FBI and the Holloway family looked into who he was and his information sources.


Well, here's my theory...Shango was in a different area of the situation than Simian.  Simian was all ALE.  Simian never said one word about the ALE having any corrupt people. Anyone that studies this stuff for very long will realize that Simian supported the efforts of the ALE and you could not convince Simian that everything possible wasn't being done to find Natalee.  One the other side was Shango.  Shango had information that Simian didn't have.  It's there in the verses.  Shango used more symbolism than Simian.  Simian spoke plainly and Shango wanted to be more cryptic.  One thing that I find confusing when others say Shango was the disinformation side is how do you justify that given that even Shango knew things when Simian didn't.  Shango insisted there was drugs involved and went so far as to tell the location of a good place to find them.  We would not know about the rave parties were it not for Shango.  If Shango had been totally about disinformation then he would never have mentioned the raves, the lions, or even Dirty Hand.  If Shango wanted to divert everything away from what was really happening on Aruba he did a piss poor job of it, IMO.


Another  thing is that Simian also began rather quickly to become defensive about the investigation. IMO that was a dead give-away to the fact that he was on the inside.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


Hi Mishy. I don't remember the location, but it's a standoffish kitty in a nursing home. It doesn't normally approach people, but the last 25 times it has become friendly with one of the residents, they person has died within 4 hours.  :shock:


Wow, that's really a trip!! truly...


he comforts them!  see who the cat lover is...  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 10:37:36 PM
I was just trying to remember something  I should know  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/doh.gif)
What the heck did RBN  stand for  ????


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: "Karo"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
A friend had bought the brand new Billy Joel 8-Track tape and it filled the car as we drove down to Nu Awlins with a couple of girls.  Our hotel was in Fat City and we finally tripped the lock about daylight.


Easy, it was so funny to read this.  I am VERY near Fat City right now and you would not recognize Fat City.  It's gone down a lot  :(  but there are still nice neighborhoods nearby.  

In 1977 I was in Baton Rouge.

30 minutes left?


Yeah, Fat City took a dive, but it was the place for a short time and I was there!  Almost like a sock monkey. lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:38:25 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
I was just trying to remember something  I should know  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/doh.gif)
What the heck did RBN  stand for  ????


Rumors and Breaking News?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:38:39 PM
I hope we have, like we did in the old forum, pre crash... a thread just for shango/code talkers...

I love to read it but I feel like I am imposing if I talk about anything else...  

that way the shango tango can go uninterrrupted and the rest of us don't feel like we are being rude....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:39:32 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


The forum goes down at 11pm Eastern time and hopefully will be back up by 2am Eastern time.


Is that kind of like Last Call?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Lala's, this might be heresy, but I don't think too much of Shango.  Actually, I think he was one of the primary players in the misinformation campaign.  Since there was so much chatter about the case on the blogs and in internet discussions, I believe Shango's riddles were created to distract and detract the internet community.  Online games and riddles have been used in the past to introduce new products and garner interest before the introduction of a new book, movie, or product.  I do believe Shango was created as a PR stunt and thrown at the internet community to spread disinformation in the case.  I think he was discontinued when the FBI and the Holloway family looked into who he was and his information sources.


Well, here's my theory...Shango was in a different area of the situation than Simian.  Simian was all ALE.  Simian never said one word about the ALE having any corrupt people. Anyone that studies this stuff for very long will realize that Simian supported the efforts of the ALE and you could not convince Simian that everything possible wasn't being done to find Natalee.  One the other side was Shango.  Shango had information that Simian didn't have.  It's there in the verses.  Shango used more symbolism than Simian.  Simian spoke plainly and Shango wanted to be more cryptic.  One thing that I find confusing when others say Shango was the disinformation side is how do you justify that given that even Shango knew things when Simian didn't.  Shango insisted there was drugs involved and went so far as to tell the location of a good place to find them.  We would not know about the rave parties were it not for Shango.  If Shango had been totally about disinformation then he would never have mentioned the raves, the lions, or even Dirty Hand.  If Shango wanted to divert everything away from what was really happening on Aruba he did a piss poor job of it, IMO.



I'm with Lala's Mom on this one! I would like to take it up more in our new cubes...

Destiny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Karo on July 27, 2007, 10:41:47 PM
15 minutes left  :D   :(   :D   :(   :D   :(

I guess some of us have mixed feelings about this change!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:41:55 PM
SO MVick's hometown of Newport News, VA is giving him a group hug because he deserves a fair trial...

how stupid are some people?  Is this what the refugees planned while we were relaunching because they didn't have anything better to do?
 :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:42:32 PM
Lalas, you make some excellent points about Shango...I too am nostalgic about this old forum. I was looking at Cafe Press today at the ship and the bus  :lol: It doesn't seem like it's been over 2 years...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I am feeling nostalic...

Bendex... where in the world is bendex

scandi nor...

the duct tape experiments...

learning how to function on 3 hours of sleep at first because I couldn't leave the cage....

so many people I have missed...  (I see SouthGaGirl out there... she was recovering from breast cancer as I recall.)  

there have been so many prayers said and tears and hugs shed for each other as well as the family....

tickle me tito....


but I am ready at the same time to see the new stuff...!!


I tried to find TING's Menu today but no luck

Bringing your   party train over  
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zTo7BXlqcHs

Chit about 12 min left  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/nailbiting.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:43:21 PM
IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY READ IT, THIS IS A GREAT BOOK!  :lol:  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/0091816971.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 10:43:27 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XO5Xd7_MXn4


thunderstruck... :wink:


Now you got me rockin out :P I think that and Back in Black are my fav's :)


AC/DC rocks- funny this came up.  My cellphone ringtone is Back to Black and my wife's is Thunderstruck.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:43:59 PM
Lala's, I do think Shango knew what was happening, to the extent that his sources filled him in.  The drug involvement was not new--it was everyone's first suspicion.  The first post about Natalee missing had her leaving C&C's with a known drug dealer.  The rave culture is very well known and has existed for over 30 years.  It is especially huge in England and Netherlands, but my daughter went to raves in AZ ten years ago.  Middle class Americans may not be as aware of this culture, but it would be quite familiar to the youth group.  I don't think Shango popularized this as much as he glamorized it with his riddles and mysteriousness.  That's what I think he was hired to do--create a mysterious, glamorous, underworld and lead the internet bloggers on a riddling game, dropping clues and obvious allusions for them to discuss.  When we were playing his game, we were not fact-finding.  We were distracted by all sorts of fantastical and outlandish theories that we discussed for hours on end.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:44:21 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"


 :shock:  Oh no you don't.. do you want that kitty near you?


That is one skeeery kitty!!!! :shock:  :shock:


Hi BT, where is this kitty I've been hearing so much about?
Also, when does the forum get shut down? I can't read back right now...TIA!


it's a kitty that lives in a nursing home and comforts the elderly right before they pass away....

the forum is shutting down at 11 est.


awwww, that's a sweet kitty...

So we only have 25 minutes?????

Angus was always one of my faves!!


That reminds me of a grocery store sign I once saw.  It read "Fresh Black Anus."  That struck me funny for some reason.   8)  :lol:  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 10:45:08 PM
I think that the "key to Eden" was Shangoese for the hoped-for forensic evidence linking Natalee to the car and showing that a crime took place there.

One thing about it, I have never been sure that Natalee WAS actually harmed while in the car. I think it was at VDS home or elsewhere. The TRUNK, and what the FBI SUPPOSEDLY said about blood, I have never figured out.

Not much longer now, folks... we soon will have a new clean Cage.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 27, 2007, 10:46:40 PM
Well, I have enjoyed life in the old cage and at my age I get apprehensive about new things.  So I guess I will just have to grin and bear it.

It's not long until the door slams for the very last time.  I hope Spooky remembers to get the lights for us.  Hugs to Nemo until the morning.  See you guys on the other side.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 10:47:22 PM
BTW I made sure I ordered my personalized mug from CafePress. This commercial brought to you by...  :wink:

Hurry, only a few minutes left! Order now!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:47:38 PM
well goodnight monkeys, if I don't get another chance to say it before the big moment...Prayers for you all!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:48:11 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I have enjoyed life in the old cage and at my age I get apprehensive about new things.  So I guess I will just have to grin and bear it.

It's not long until the door slams for the very last time.  I hope Spooky remembers to get the lights for us.  Hugs to Nemo until the morning.  See you guys on the other side.


Should auld acquaintance be forgot
and never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot
and days of auld lang syne?
For auld lang syne, my dear,
for auld lang syne,
we'll take a cup of kindness yet,
for auld lang syne.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 10:48:12 PM
Quote from: "sb"
Anyone else feeling a little apprehensive (and nostalgic) about this forum changeover LOL?

I feel like "Oh, no. we are about to lose our old friend and we don't know what we're getting back in return..." We are always afraid of change.

BUT I KNOW it will be better and I have all the confidence in the world in Red and Dugga and all our technoMonkeys who will see this through.

Gotta read back... FAST  :wink:


My concerns are that we will loose the closeness we have all had through the last 2 plus years. IMO if this board had been truly puplic I might have read but not posted. I know anyone can read here... am not sure I made this paragraph to say what I wanted it to.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:48:14 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I have enjoyed life in the old cage and at my age I get apprehensive about new things.  So I guess I will just have to grin and bear it.

It's not long until the door slams for the very last time.  I hope Spooky remembers to get the lights for us.  Hugs to Nemo until the morning.  See you guys on the other side.


 :shock:  :shock: Go toward the light, Lalas. Go toward the light.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:48:26 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ting.jpg)


Hi, my name is Ting and I'll be your server this evening.

Our specials tonight are baby rumors sauteed in a chardonnay and melon butter sauce, grilled medallions of free range allegation topped with a balsamic mango and fiddlehead salsa, that one is really popular and we also have a luscious souffle of inflammatory rhetoric whipped with our house organic creme sensationalism.

Would you like me to pour a cocktail down your throat while you decide?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: A's Fever on July 27, 2007, 10:48:54 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "A's Fever"
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "*******"
Ok music fans from the 70's..Lets see if you can guess who this is..Dont look at the name!! No cheating!! 8)

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvf5rVzmHuc



  Great song  8)  Always liked it!


Yesss great song!!..A's great guess..You guys must know your stuff to know Dave Mason.. 8)


I really like the guitar work in this song.  I've tried to play it . . . to no avail!  :roll:


Funny you should mention that.. I noticed he has 9 Guitar lessons on youtube :wink:

 http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ePycnMTOTl8&mode=related&search=


Very cool!  Thanks a bunch!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:49:51 PM
GOODBYE OLD FORUM!

WELCOME NEW!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Magnolia on July 27, 2007, 10:49:51 PM
[

Well, here's my theory...Shango was in a different area of the situation than Simian.  Simian was all ALE.  Simian never said one word about the ALE having any corrupt people. Anyone that studies this stuff for very long will realize that Simian supported the efforts of the ALE and you could not convince Simian that everything possible wasn't being done to find Natalee.  One the other side was Shango.  Shango had information that Simian didn't have.  It's there in the verses.  Shango used more symbolism than Simian.  Simian spoke plainly and Shango wanted to be more cryptic.  One thing that I find confusing when others say Shango was the disinformation side is how do you justify that given that even Shango knew things when Simian didn't.  Shango insisted there was drugs involved and went so far as to tell the location of a good place to find them.  We would not know about the rave parties were it not for Shango.  If Shango had been totally about disinformation then he would never have mentioned the raves, the lions, or even Dirty Hand.  If Shango wanted to divert everything away from what was really happening on Aruba he did a piss poor job of it, IMO.[/quote]

Lala's
I doubt that this has any signigicance, but in South Florida and most of the islands "Cowboys" refers to Columbian drug dealers.

Hi everybiody.....waiting for the big changeover.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 27, 2007, 10:50:00 PM
See you in the big house.

Oops I mean the new house.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:50:03 PM
I love that post by Ting!!  That is a true classic.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 10:50:05 PM
See You All on the other side side of the worm hole...gonna be a wild ride...but, we'll all make it thru just fine!

Love and Hugs....Destiny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 10:50:07 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I have enjoyed life in the old cage and at my age I get apprehensive about new things.  So I guess I will just have to grin and bear it.

It's not long until the door slams for the very last time.  I hope Spooky remembers to get the lights for us.  Hugs to Nemo until the morning.  See you guys on the other side.


I just hope someone hollers before

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/the_door.gif) on (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/sm_logo_R.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:50:20 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I have enjoyed life in the old cage and at my age I get apprehensive about new things.  So I guess I will just have to grin and bear it.

It's not long until the door slams for the very last time.  I hope Spooky remembers to get the lights for us.  Hugs to Nemo until the morning.  See you guys on the other side.


 :shock:  :shock: Go toward the light, Lalas. Go toward the light.


Are you and Oscar the Cat in cahoots?  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:50:37 PM
We are all feeling a little sentimental...I've never taken well to change. Looking forward to seeing you all in the morning...Love you guys!! and Ibe, I don't think it will take away the closeness...We will be able to join here like we always do and enjoy the fun changes....We should be excited!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ting.jpg)


Hi, my name is Ting and I'll be your server this evening.

Our specials tonight are baby rumors sauteed in a chardonnay and melon butter sauce, grilled medallions of free range allegation topped with a balsamic mango and fiddlehead salsa, that one is really popular and we also have a luscious souffle of inflammatory rhetoric whipped with our house organic creme sensationalism.

Would you like me to pour a cocktail down your throat while you decide?


Oldfart - in case you missed it  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:51:02 PM
No, OF, they just shut the door on our foot.  It's happened to me numerous times.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:51:28 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
Quote from: "sb"
Anyone else feeling a little apprehensive (and nostalgic) about this forum changeover LOL?

I feel like "Oh, no. we are about to lose our old friend and we don't know what we're getting back in return..." We are always afraid of change.

BUT I KNOW it will be better and I have all the confidence in the world in Red and Dugga and all our technoMonkeys who will see this through.

Gotta read back... FAST  :wink:


My concerns are that we will loose the closeness we have all had through the last 2 plus years. IMO if this board had been truly puplic I might have read but not posted. I know anyone can read here... am not sure I made this paragraph to say what I wanted it to.


IBE.. that won't change not really - and we were all strangers two years ago....just think of it as some new friends that need our support... and we will be fine!

there won't be the trolling that y'all think :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:51:39 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ting.jpg)


Hi, my name is Ting and I'll be your server this evening.

Our specials tonight are baby rumors sauteed in a chardonnay and melon butter sauce, grilled medallions of free range allegation topped with a balsamic mango and fiddlehead salsa, that one is really popular and we also have a luscious souffle of inflammatory rhetoric whipped with our house organic creme sensationalism.

Would you like me to pour a cocktail down your throat while you decide?


very good Klaas, I remember this....nice!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 10:51:46 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ting.jpg)


Hi, my name is Ting and I'll be your server this evening.

Our specials tonight are baby rumors sauteed in a chardonnay and melon butter sauce, grilled medallions of free range allegation topped with a balsamic mango and fiddlehead salsa, that one is really popular and we also have a luscious souffle of inflammatory rhetoric whipped with our house organic creme sensationalism.

Would you like me to pour a cocktail down your throat while you decide?


Thanks Klaasend  

I'm not say SeeYaByee....  
Hell I may be back before the sun comes up  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 10:51:58 PM
Quote from: "Magnolia"
[

Well, here's my theory...Shango was in a different area of the situation than Simian.  Simian was all ALE.  Simian never said one word about the ALE having any corrupt people. Anyone that studies this stuff for very long will realize that Simian supported the efforts of the ALE and you could not convince Simian that everything possible wasn't being done to find Natalee.  One the other side was Shango.  Shango had information that Simian didn't have.  It's there in the verses.  Shango used more symbolism than Simian.  Simian spoke plainly and Shango wanted to be more cryptic.  One thing that I find confusing when others say Shango was the disinformation side is how do you justify that given that even Shango knew things when Simian didn't.  Shango insisted there was drugs involved and went so far as to tell the location of a good place to find them.  We would not know about the rave parties were it not for Shango.  If Shango had been totally about disinformation then he would never have mentioned the raves, the lions, or even Dirty Hand.  If Shango wanted to divert everything away from what was really happening on Aruba he did a piss poor job of it, IMO.


Lala's
I doubt that this has any signigicance, but in South Florida and most of the islands "Cowboys" refers to Columbian drug dealers.

Hi everybiody.....waiting for the big changeover.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:52:03 PM
Mishy, I hope I can find your little shaking tail.  That avi is pretty, but I miss your bum moving.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:52:08 PM
I feel like I'm back on the cable car and the breaks have gone out as we're going down the hill.  :shock:

I don't know whether to yell OMG or Wheeeee!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 10:52:14 PM
Who's gonna get the last post in the old forum?? :o t-5 minutes


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 10:52:40 PM
Should we pop the Champagne cork yet?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tiger on July 27, 2007, 10:52:41 PM
bye,bye.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
angie, you have mail...reading back now


 No mail yet sistah.. AOL? or the other?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:52:55 PM
1976

You can take me to paradise,
And then again you can be cold as ice
I'm over my head,
But it sure feels nice.

You can take me anytime you like,
I'll be around if you think you might love me baby,
And hold me tight.

Your mood is like a circus wheel,
You're changing all the time,
Sometimes I can't help but feel,
That I'm wasting all of my time.

Think I'm looking on the dark side,
But everyday you hurt my pride,
I'm over my head,
But it sure feels nice,
I'm over my head,
But it sure feels nice.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:53:03 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Well, I have enjoyed life in the old cage and at my age I get apprehensive about new things.  So I guess I will just have to grin and bear it.

It's not long until the door slams for the very last time.  I hope Spooky remembers to get the lights for us.  Hugs to Nemo until the morning.  See you guys on the other side.


 :shock:  :shock: Go toward the light, Lalas. Go toward the light.


Lala's... I have it on pretty good authority that you are close to None's age... and that means you are around 30


50 is the new 30!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:53:17 PM
Think we'll make it to 50 so Klaas can close the door?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 10:53:38 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ting.jpg)


Hi, my name is Ting and I'll be your server this evening.

Our specials tonight are baby rumors sauteed in a chardonnay and melon butter sauce, grilled medallions of free range allegation topped with a balsamic mango and fiddlehead salsa, that one is really popular and we also have a luscious souffle of inflammatory rhetoric whipped with our house organic creme sensationalism.

Would you like me to pour a cocktail down your throat while you decide?



Classic!!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 10:53:39 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ting.jpg)


Hi, my name is Ting and I'll be your server this evening.

Our specials tonight are baby rumors sauteed in a chardonnay and melon butter sauce, grilled medallions of free range allegation topped with a balsamic mango and fiddlehead salsa, that one is really popular and we also have a luscious souffle of inflammatory rhetoric whipped with our house organic creme sensationalism.

Would you like me to pour a cocktail down your throat while you decide?


Wow!! Those were the days.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:53:45 PM
OK, I'm getting off now. I don't want the door to shut in my face. That would be too  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 10:53:47 PM
See Yall on the otherside.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:54:20 PM
(http://mylifeofcrime.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/natalee_holloway_yearbook_photo.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Frijole on July 27, 2007, 10:54:30 PM
Guarantee you that Robots will have the first post on the new forum... he figured out how to do it and did it yesterday!  :lol:  :lol: Bye old forum.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 10:54:43 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ting.jpg)


Hi, my name is Ting and I'll be your server this evening.

Our specials tonight are baby rumors sauteed in a chardonnay and melon butter sauce, grilled medallions of free range allegation topped with a balsamic mango and fiddlehead salsa, that one is really popular and we also have a luscious souffle of inflammatory rhetoric whipped with our house organic creme sensationalism.

Would you like me to pour a cocktail down your throat while you decide?


LOL LOL LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:54:59 PM
This should be interesting.  If anyone gets lost trying to get in, just holler and wave and jump up and down.  That should do it, huh, Klaas?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:54:59 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
1976

You can take me to paradise,
And then again you can be cold as ice
I'm over my head,
But it sure feels nice.

You can take me anytime you like,
I'll be around if you think you might love me baby,
And hold me tight.

Your mood is like a circus wheel,
You're changing all the time,
Sometimes I can't help but feel,
That I'm wasting all of my time.

Think I'm looking on the dark side,
But everyday you hurt my pride,
I'm over my head,
But it sure feels nice,
I'm over my head,
But it sure feels nice.


fleetwood mac....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "mishy"
angie, you have mail...reading back now


 No mail yet sistah.. AOL? or the other?


the same one that I sent  it to last night...aol

It is really odd that this is thread #666


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:55:11 PM
I'm goin' down with the ship. Hangin' on until I get booted.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 10:55:20 PM
See everybody at the new home(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/SmileywithGuns.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:55:22 PM
(http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/Natalee_20Holloway_205.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 10:55:34 PM
We will all still be the same. Keep it going, guys. See y'all tomorrow!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 10:55:38 PM
See ya'll in a little bit.  

Rock On!! 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 10:55:51 PM
I think that they might post and tell us it's over...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:56:22 PM
All for Natalee!  We will never forget!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:56:26 PM
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/1205/holloway/Natalee-Holloway200.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 10:56:33 PM
Goodnight Irene...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:56:34 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/Natalee_20Holloway_205.jpg)


Thanks for posting these pictures of Natalee, Klaas. It's all about her!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 10:56:40 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I'm goin' down with the ship. Hangin' on until I get booted.  :lol:


Me too buddy  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 10:56:47 PM
:cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry: I'm feeling sentimental now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 10:56:54 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I feel like I'm back on the cable car and the breaks have gone out as we're going down the hill.  :shock:

I don't know whether to yell OMG or Wheeeee!!!!!


more like http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HwQtUalHj0c


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
Ok, goodnight. It's been a pleasure. Good night and God bless.
 :smt006  

Check back later.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Who's gonna get the last post in the old forum?? :o t-5 minutes



And do we win something?

 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:57:18 PM
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/LAW/07/18/aruba.missing/story.natalee.mom.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 10:57:39 PM
Bye friends.  Natalee, we will never forget.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 10:57:59 PM
JUSTICE For NATALEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ting.jpg)


Hi, my name is Ting and I'll be your server this evening.

Our specials tonight are baby rumors sauteed in a chardonnay and melon butter sauce, grilled medallions of free range allegation topped with a balsamic mango and fiddlehead salsa, that one is really popular and we also have a luscious souffle of inflammatory rhetoric whipped with our house organic creme sensationalism.

Would you like me to pour a cocktail down your throat while you decide?


  I miss Ting.. HAT.. Bendex..    :( Hope they come back.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 10:58:21 PM
Check ya'll on the flip side....I hate goodbyes!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:58:29 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/news/060605/natalee_holloway.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Frijole on July 27, 2007, 10:58:31 PM
Fly on FREEBIRD!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 10:58:32 PM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Quote from: "*******"
Who's gonna get the last post in the old forum?? :o t-5 minutes



And do we win something?

 :lol:


No but thats one helluva dog you got!! :wink: Not sure if thats a malamute but they rock!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sirensong on July 27, 2007, 10:58:38 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
So if Tribe = Arubans
What does Arawaks =?


Could it be a reference to arubian members  of ALE .

+++++++++++

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
You must remember
The Arawaks placed singing beetles with the Babylonian and the two Shivas
They were never alone


I always took the words Tribe and Arawaks to mean the same people--the native Arubans.


I think you are right and Tribe means arubian populace. Not sure why sometimes he capitalizes Arawaks and other times not. He also uses" indian" to refer to arubians too i think. I think some of these analogies were likely thought  of before the actual Shango posts. Thsi is just an impression i get .

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
Cowboys must behave in Indian territory
The arawaks need pemmican, they have been without wampum, 1 Moon
The Arawaks keep the singing card
One singing Babylonian and two Hindu chanters are enough
His lordships presence guarantees a trio
The key to edens door did not exist
The refrain has already begun


Hi all!   Trying to catch up.  I LOVE to Shango, but I usually have nothing to add. You all are so good at it, I usually just read your great theories, and don't think to hard about it!  But in reading this again, I thought that cowboys means the FBI and or all the people from USA that were there searching.  I think the Arawaks are the ALE.  I wonder if his lordship is the judge, meaning as long as he keeps three in there, it either protects Joran, or it protects the people responsible for having the parties where videos and rapes occur.  That "key" (theory) doesn't exist as long as the three are in custody, there is no reason to go search for the "eden", where Freddy takes pictures and rapes unresponsive women.  May be the "boys" are copying the "elders" in that the lions do that at a different location (my bet is the Holiday Inn, the lions den).  Hope that made sense?  

Hey Klass, saw that you acknowledged me the other night, sorry, I am in and out and usually miss the conversations in real time!  Thanks for the shout out, though-it is always nice to be "seen"! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 10:59:37 PM
:smt006    :smt006    :smt006


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 10:59:57 PM
Dugga and Red must be running behind, lol  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:00:06 PM
Quote from: "snoopy"
:smt006    :smt006    :smt006


See ya later, Snoop Dawg.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:00:09 PM
I loved Ting... and HAT...
 

i was never here hardley during bendex....

I was disappointed in a lot of people too... :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 11:00:13 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Quote from: "*******"
Who's gonna get the last post in the old forum?? :o t-5 minutes



And do we win something?

 :lol:


No but thats one helluva dog you got!! :wink: Not sure if thats a malamute but they rock!!



Siberian Husky

I raise, breed, & race them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:00:30 PM
I've just closed my eyes again
Climbed aboard the dream weaver train
Driver take away my worries of today
And leave tomorrow behind

(chorus
Ooh dream weaver
I believe you can get me through the night
Ooh dream weaver
I believe we can reach the morning light
Fly me high through the starry skies
Maybe to an astral plane
Cross the highways of fantasy
Help me to forget today's pain

(chorus again

Though the dawn may be coming soon
There still may be some time
Fly me away to the bright side of the moon
And meet me on the other side


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 11:00:47 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Dugga and Red must be running behind, lol  :lol:


I think we might have to change the thread :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 11:00:48 PM
:) See y'all later!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:00:48 PM
ARUBA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:00:59 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I loved Ting... and HAT...
 

i was never here hardley during bendex....

I was disappointed in a lot of people too... :cry:

Ting inspired me to love sock monkeys. His legacy lives on.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Ok, goodnight. It's been a pleasure. Good night and God bless.
 :smt006  

Check back later.


Goodnight Indy!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:01:19 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Dugga and Red must be running behind, lol  :lol:


not to be  :roll:  but with those two.... they aren't the most punctual two that have ever lived...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 11:01:26 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I'm goin' down with the ship. Hangin' on until I get booted.  :lol:


   LOL  me too   8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:01:59 PM
Maybe they just want us to finish this thread?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:02:05 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/1205/holloway/Natalee-Holloway200.jpg)


Tragically Sad!  Breaks my heart each time I see her face.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 11:02:46 PM
Boycott Aruba until there is Justice for Natalee and she is brought home!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 11:03:15 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/1205/holloway/Natalee-Holloway200.jpg)


Tragically Sad!  Breaks my heart each time I see her face.



So young a full of life! What a terrible waste.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:03:19 PM
Geesh, this countdown is getting on my nerves!  I can't leave and I know it's going to end.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 11:03:20 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/1205/holloway/Natalee-Holloway200.jpg)


http://www.erickaharvey.com/

Sorry do not have a direct link to Natalee's song handy


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:03:27 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I've just closed my eyes again
Climbed aboard the dream weaver train
Driver take away my worries of today
And leave tomorrow behind

(chorus
Ooh dream weaver
I believe you can get me through the night
Ooh dream weaver
I believe we can reach the morning light
Fly me high through the starry skies
Maybe to an astral plane
Cross the highways of fantasy
Help me to forget today's pain

(chorus again

Though the dawn may be coming soon
There still may be some time
Fly me away to the bright side of the moon
And meet me on the other side


oh... it's gary... I can't remember his name!  Gary ???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:03:33 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Boycott Aruba until there is Justice for Natalee and she is brought home!!


AMEN!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:03:33 PM
Brother bought a coconut, he bought it for a dime
His sister had another, she paid it for a lime.
She put the lime in the coconut, and drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut, and drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut,
Called the doctor, woke him up, and said,
"Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?
I say, Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?"

"Now let me get this straight;
You put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
You put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
You put the lime in the coconut,
called your doctor, woke him up, and said,
'Doctor, ain't there nothing I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?
I say, Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?'

You put the lime in the coconut, and drink them both down,
You put the lime in the cocount, you're such a silly woman!
Put the lime in the coconut, and drink them both together,
Put the lime in the coconut, and call me in the morning."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 11:03:45 PM
I keep watching for the "locked" button LOL.

Maybe this forum just REFUSES to go away.

WE WILL BE BACK AGAIN TOMORROW!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 11:03:51 PM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Quote from: "*******"
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Quote from: "*******"
Who's gonna get the last post in the old forum?? :o t-5 minutes



And do we win something?

 :lol:


No but thats one helluva dog you got!! :wink: Not sure if thats a malamute but they rock!!



Siberian Husky

I raise, breed, & race them.


Very Very niice!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I'm goin' down with the ship. Hangin' on until I get booted.  :lol:


   LOL  me too   8)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/Muzzydog/gen127.gif)
Let's hold hands as we go down together.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:04:06 PM
Natalee will live forever in our hearts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 27, 2007, 11:04:07 PM
Quote from: "Rob"
See Yall on the otherside.



Last ride for Midnight Clyde, catch ya on the flipside.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 11:04:08 PM
BOYCOTT ARUBA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:04:38 PM
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Ok, goodnight. It's been a pleasure. Good night and God bless.
 :smt006  

Check back later.


Goodnight Indy!


Goodnight Indy


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:04:53 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Brother bought a coconut, he bought it for a dime
His sister had another, she paid it for a lime.
She put the lime in the coconut, and drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut, and drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut,
Called the doctor, woke him up, and said,
"Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?
I say, Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?"

"Now let me get this straight;
You put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
You put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
You put the lime in the coconut,
called your doctor, woke him up, and said,
'Doctor, ain't there nothing I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?
I say, Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?'

You put the lime in the coconut, and drink them both down,
You put the lime in the cocount, you're such a silly woman!
Put the lime in the coconut, and drink them both together,
Put the lime in the coconut, and call me in the morning."

harry belafonte?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:05:00 PM
Hmmm...how will it happen?  Will I be typing away and try to post and get shut out, like when the thread changes?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:05:07 PM
Quote from: "sb"
I keep watching for the "locked" button LOL.

Maybe this forum just REFUSES to go away.

WE WILL BE BACK AGAIN TOMORROW!


I don't think you will see the thread lock.  I think you will hit refresh and the site won't be available  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Brother bought a coconut, he bought it for a dime
His sister had another, she paid it for a lime.
She put the lime in the coconut, and drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut, and drank them both up
She put the lime in the coconut,
Called the doctor, woke him up, and said,
"Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?
I say, Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?"

"Now let me get this straight;
You put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
You put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up
You put the lime in the coconut,
called your doctor, woke him up, and said,
'Doctor, ain't there nothing I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?
I say, Doctor, ain't there nothin' I can take,
I say, Doctor, to relieve this belly ache?'

You put the lime in the coconut, and drink them both down,
You put the lime in the cocount, you're such a silly woman!
Put the lime in the coconut, and drink them both together,
Put the lime in the coconut, and call me in the morning."

harry belafonte?


Easy, that song cracks me up, and I sing it all the time.  DOCTOR!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:05:57 PM
Or will I try to refresh the screen to see the latest comment and all of a sudden not see anything?  How will it happen?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:05:59 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Hmmm...how will it happen?  Will I be typing away and try to post and get shut out, like when the thread changes?


You'll be typing away, hit the post button and suddenly get the blank screen or error that the site is not available.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 11:06:01 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I've just closed my eyes again
Climbed aboard the dream weaver train
Driver take away my worries of today
And leave tomorrow behind

(chorus
Ooh dream weaver
I believe you can get me through the night
Ooh dream weaver
I believe we can reach the morning light
Fly me high through the starry skies
Maybe to an astral plane
Cross the highways of fantasy
Help me to forget today's pain

(chorus again

Though the dawn may be coming soon
There still may be some time
Fly me away to the bright side of the moon
And meet me on the other side


  Good song EASY..    Dang its  something Wright?>>>


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sirensong on July 27, 2007, 11:06:10 PM
Well I write a post, and realize it's in the middle of everyone saying goodbye!!  My window says its still 2 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes until the new launch!  What is going on?  I don't want to get lost!! :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:06:21 PM
Would you ask Dugga to hurry up please?

I need to pack, and I can't stand to stop posting until the forum goes down.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:06:27 PM
Why does everyone sound like this is the last episode of Seinfeld or something?  

we will just have a new place... we aren't going away for ever...just a few hours...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 11:06:40 PM
Natalee's Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzqKvBjqRZs


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:06:46 PM
IMO the Scared Monkeys we are shutting down will become history in the areas of missing and in the Internet.

This is sad!

I remember when we were trying to find Bendex on the bus. All of us have come a long way

Justice for Natalee

And Arube, if you wish tourists back, come clean now, before Beth's book! This is for the Dutch too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:06:49 PM
Oh, then I will just not refresh.  I'll keep my screen and my Monkeys and everything will be as it has.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 27, 2007, 11:06:51 PM
Quote from: "snoopy"
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Ok, goodnight. It's been a pleasure. Good night and God bless.
 :smt006  

Check back later.


Goodnight Indy!


Goodnight Indy


Thanks Snoopy, really apprecriate that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:06:57 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Geesh, this countdown is getting on my nerves!  I can't leave and I know it's going to end.


I never was one for long goodbyes  :lol:   Let's get the show on the road.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 11:07:02 PM
We will be changing over any time now.

WE WILL BE BACK! The fight continues...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: "sb"
I keep watching for the "locked" button LOL.

Maybe this forum just REFUSES to go away.

WE WILL BE BACK AGAIN TOMORROW!


NAAAAAAA....IT WENT...WE'RE IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE ....shiit...hope we're not stuck...

Dest


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:07:22 PM
Quote from: "sirensong"
Well I write a post, and realize it's in the middle of everyone saying goodbye!!  My window says its still 2 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes until the new launch!  What is going on?  I don't want to get lost!! :shock:


The forum will be going down any time now.  It should be up, the NEW forum in approximately 4 hours.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:07:23 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I've just closed my eyes again
Climbed aboard the dream weaver train
Driver take away my worries of today
And leave tomorrow behind

(chorus
Ooh dream weaver
I believe you can get me through the night
Ooh dream weaver
I believe we can reach the morning light
Fly me high through the starry skies
Maybe to an astral plane
Cross the highways of fantasy
Help me to forget today's pain

(chorus again

Though the dawn may be coming soon
There still may be some time
Fly me away to the bright side of the moon
And meet me on the other side


  Good song EASY..    Dang its  something Wright?>>>


GARY WRIGHT... forum just blibbed for me...  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 11:07:29 PM
Ok I win  8) Last post :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 11:07:52 PM
Natalee's Song #2


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:08:21 PM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/1205/holloway/Natalee-Holloway200.jpg)


Tragically Sad!  Breaks my heart each time I see her face.



So young a full of life! What a terrible waste.


And her life makes such a stark contrast against the nothing that took her away.  Makes tears flow down my cheek.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:08:24 PM
Quote from: "sirensong"
Well I write a post, and realize it's in the middle of everyone saying goodbye!!  My window says its still 2 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes until the new launch!  What is going on?  I don't want to get lost!! :shock:


We're going to our new home now sirensong.  Don't worry.  We'll go together.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:08:36 PM
meant Aruba not Arube

I feel I am loosing a family or is this how if feels then parents feel when a son or daughter leaves for college?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:08:41 PM
Nah, nah, nah--I got the last post!   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 11:08:54 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "Rob"
See Yall on the otherside.



Last ride for Midnight Clyde, catch ya on the flipside.


  Pink Floydd.   8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 11:09:04 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/1205/holloway/Natalee-Holloway200.jpg)


Tragically Sad!  Breaks my heart each time I see her face.



So young a full of life! What a terrible waste.


And her life makes such a stark contrast against the nothing that took her away.  Makes tears flow down my cheek.


That face, that face, that wonderful face!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:09:04 PM
*******... not quite!! :lol:

the forum is loading all funky for me though...

red and dugga are probably laughing at us...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I've just closed my eyes again
Climbed aboard the dream weaver train
Driver take away my worries of today
And leave tomorrow behind

(chorus
Ooh dream weaver
I believe you can get me through the night
Ooh dream weaver
I believe we can reach the morning light
Fly me high through the starry skies
Maybe to an astral plane
Cross the highways of fantasy
Help me to forget today's pain

(chorus again

Though the dawn may be coming soon
There still may be some time
Fly me away to the bright side of the moon
And meet me on the other side


  Good song EASY..    Dang its  something Wright?>>>


Angie get the prize  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_fBWUmD9c


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:09:21 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Would you ask Dugga to hurry up please?

I need to pack, and I can't stand to stop posting until the forum goes down.  :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:   Me either.  I don't want to miss anything.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 27, 2007, 11:09:49 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Why does everyone sound like this is the last episode of Seinfeld or something?  

we will just have a new place... we aren't going away for ever...just a few hours...

For me, it will be a new beginning for the monkeys, many of whom have been here since June 2005.  Bittersweet.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:09:51 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
meant Aruba not Arube

I feel I am loosing a family or is this how if feels then parents feel when a son or daughter leaves for college?


IBE - the new forum should be back up in a few hours.  If you have trouble sleeping you may be the first one to check it out, LOL  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:09:53 PM
Quote from: "*******"
Ok I win  8) Last post :P


NEENER NEENER....No you Didn't!

Dest


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 11:09:55 PM
Natalee's Song #3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYzSYV5b35Q


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:09:56 PM
Oh, sweet, sweet Monkeys--don't leave me now!!!!!    (tragic screaming!!)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:09:57 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******... not quite!! :lol:

the forum is loading all funky for me though...

red and dugga are probably laughing at us...


They're just toying with us, arent' they?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:09:58 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "sirensong"
Well I write a post, and realize it's in the middle of everyone saying goodbye!!  My window says its still 2 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes until the new launch!  What is going on?  I don't want to get lost!! :shock:


The forum will be going down any time now.  It should be up, the NEW forum in approximately 4 hours.
:(  :cry:  :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 11:10:10 PM
I hope that this page will be in the new Archives. I'm sure it will!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:10:24 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
meant Aruba not Arube

I feel I am loosing a family or is this how if feels then parents feel when a son or daughter leaves for college?


IBE... you stop that young lady!  We will all be here in the morning... just like always... just with a fresh coat of paint in the apt... look at it that way....

they may even have some surprises that will rock!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:10:32 PM
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Quote from: "snoopy"
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Quote from: "IndyDan"
Ok, goodnight. It's been a pleasure. Good night and God bless.
 :smt006  

Check back later.


Goodnight Indy!


Goodnight Indy


Thanks Snoopy, really apprecriate that.


No problem buddy  :wink:

Rock On!!  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 11:10:35 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Scared%20Monkeys/threadlock.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Sue on July 27, 2007, 11:10:38 PM
Will our sign in's be the same???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:10:49 PM
Toying with our hearts, my sweet BT!!!  Oh the tragic irony---

(swooming and screaming, all at once, of course)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 11:10:57 PM
Is it just me...  
I expect  ROBOTS  to pop in and then the lights will go out


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "IBE"
meant Aruba not Arube

I feel I am loosing a family or is this how if feels then parents feel when a son or daughter leaves for college?


IBE... you stop that young lady!  We will all be here in the morning... just like always... just with a fresh coat of paint in the apt... look at it that way....

they may even have some surprises that will rock!!!


I'm skeered I won't be able to find my way around. I never did have any sense of direction, you know.  :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:11:28 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "IBE"
meant Aruba not Arube

I feel I am loosing a family or is this how if feels then parents feel when a son or daughter leaves for college?


IBE - the new forum should be back up in a few hours.  If you have trouble sleeping you may be the first one to check it out, LOL  :lol:


Maybe :lol:  :lol: but I bet Robots is staying up all night!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 11:11:36 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******... not quite!! :lol:

the forum is loading all funky for me though...

red and dugga are probably laughing at us...


You guys were supposed to stop typing :x


Boycott Boycott Boycott!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:11:37 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******... not quite!! :lol:

the forum is loading all funky for me though...

red and dugga are probably laughing at us...


They're just toying with us, arent' they?  :lol:


Sittin on the floor drunk off their butts laughing at us....betcha.

Destiny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 11:11:46 PM
Good one San!

Bye everyone until tomorrow!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:11:57 PM
Dear, dear IBE--hold my hand, honey.  We'll be brave and go down together!  Oh, sweet Monkeys, I bid you adieu!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Frijole on July 27, 2007, 11:11:59 PM
Yep OF, Robots will post one big ARUBA SUCKS sign!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 11:12:01 PM
Quote from: "Sue"
Will our sign in's be the same???


Yes.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:12:13 PM
Quote from: "sb"
I hope that this page will be in the new Archives. I'm sure it will!



I am sure it will be....

I get last post!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:12:33 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "IBE"
meant Aruba not Arube

I feel I am loosing a family or is this how if feels then parents feel when a son or daughter leaves for college?


IBE - the new forum should be back up in a few hours.  If you have trouble sleeping you may be the first one to check it out, LOL  :lol:


Maybe :lol:  :lol: but I bet Robots is staying up all night!


ha ha, you could be right!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:12:46 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "IBE"
meant Aruba not Arube

I feel I am loosing a family or is this how if feels then parents feel when a son or daughter leaves for college?


IBE... you stop that young lady!  We will all be here in the morning... just like always... just with a fresh coat of paint in the apt... look at it that way....

they may even have some surprises that will rock!!!


OK :lol:  :lol: Mrs. Red... heads up and forward!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 11:13:01 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/news/original/1205/holloway/Natalee-Holloway200.jpg)


Tragically Sad!  Breaks my heart each time I see her face.



So young a full of life! What a terrible waste.


And her life makes such a stark contrast against the nothing that took her away.  Makes tears flow down my cheek.


  Easy ..  AMEN.
 I am sure we all will find another.. hope so.. we are family here and been together for 2 yrs.  All here for the same reason.. for Justice for Natalee..  even if we are clwons and off topic at times.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:13:21 PM
I said ADIEU SWEET MONKEYS!

(swooning, again)

(I don't know how long I can hold this pose!!!)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 11:13:30 PM
Where do we go nobody knows
I’ve gotta’ say I’m on my way down
God give me style and give me grace
God put a smile upon my face


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Is it just me...  
I expect  ROBOTS  to pop in and then the lights will go out


You don't think he's got a key to the new house do ya?  He better not get there before me.  I'm stayin up!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 27, 2007, 11:13:39 PM
Hello Monkeys - have to make a post before they pull the plug and leave us in the dark.  :lol:  :lol:
Will we make it to page 50.
Looking forward to seeing what the new forum will look like and what bells and whistles they have for us to play with.
Thanks to Red, Dugga and all concerned in advance.
Thanks to Klaas for all her work and keeping everyone in line.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
*******... not quite!! :lol:

the forum is loading all funky for me though...

red and dugga are probably laughing at us...


They're just toying with us, arent' they?  :lol:


Sittin on the floor drunk off their butts laughing at us....betcha.

Destiny


they better not be... cuz i am not! :shock:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:13:55 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
I said ADIEU SWEET MONKEYS!

(swooning, again)

(I don't know how long I can hold this pose!!!)


And a very good swoon it is too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:14:09 PM
IMO the pages are aleady refreshing faster.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:14:10 PM
Sad knocked on my door tonight.  I said hello, come on in.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: A's Fever on July 27, 2007, 11:14:56 PM
I'll jump in and bid my farewell!  See you tomorrow, in our fully redecorated digs.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:15:01 PM
I'm holding my breath here in a swooning position, tragically saying goodbye to my old Monkey friends.  Why won't this blasted thing go down?!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:15:19 PM
Ya'll be so proud of me.  I even have a welcome home sign for the new house.  Course I'll prolly blow up the place.  Never never done this before. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 11:15:27 PM
We are not going down alone.....
In total there are 61 users online :: 27 Registered, 0 Hidden and 34 Guests [ Administrator ] [ Moderator ]
Most users ever online was 217 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:20 pm
Registered Users: A's Fever, Angiex911dsptchr, AZLady, AZSunny, BTgirl, CJ1, Destiny, Easywriter, Elaine, Frijole, GreatOwl, IBE, Karo, klaasend, Magnolia, mrs. red, *******, oldfart, ospainter, pdh3, San, sb, sleddogs, snoopy, Sue, tcumom, Tibrogargan


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:15:35 PM
Nite to those that aren't going to hang on until the end...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 11:15:45 PM
That face, that face, that wonderful face!
It shines, it glows all over the place.
And how I love to watch it change expressions.
Each look becomes the pride of my possessions.

I love that face, that face, it just isn't fair.
You must forgive the way that I stare,
But never will these eyes behold a sight that could replace

That face, that face, that face.

I love those eyes, those lips, that fabulous smile.
She laughs and spring goes right out of style.

Oh never will these eyes behold a sight that could replace
That face, that face, that face, that face,
that face, that face, that face.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 11:16:07 PM
THIS IS NOIT GOODBYE!

We will all be here, together, tomorrow.

The fight continues...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:16:11 PM
If someone doesn't take a picture of me soon, I'm going to turn blue.

(swooming dramatically)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: "snoopy"
Ya'll be so proud of me.  I even have a welcome home sign for the new house.  Course I'll prolly blow up the place.  Never never done this before. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Can you post a map too with arrows on it to show me where to go?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:16:25 PM
Quote from: "A's Fever"
I'll jump in and bid my farewell!  See you tomorrow, in our fully redecorated digs.


Home sweet home


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: "snoopy"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Is it just me...  
I expect  ROBOTS  to pop in and then the lights will go out


You don't think he's got a key to the new house do ya?  He better not get there before me.  I'm stayin up!!


Party! Party! Party! at Snoopy's


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: A's Fever on July 27, 2007, 11:16:39 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
We are not going down alone.....
In total there are 61 users online :: 27 Registered, 0 Hidden and 34 Guests [ Administrator ] [ Moderator ]
Most users ever online was 217 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:20 pm
Registered Users: A's Fever, Angiex911dsptchr, AZLady, AZSunny, BTgirl, CJ1, Destiny, Easywriter, Elaine, Frijole, GreatOwl, IBE, Karo, klaasend, Magnolia, mrs. red, *******, oldfart, ospainter, pdh3, San, sb, sleddogs, snoopy, Sue, tcumom, Tibrogargan


Why 6/4/07 I wonder?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 27, 2007, 11:16:50 PM
Should we all hold hands and sing Auld Lang Syne ?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 11:16:51 PM
Just copying from another place

Quote from: "oldfart"
I'm excited for the changes that are coming...to Scared Monkeys
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/75a82ab7.gif)
With any luck  news will be forth coming and we can stress test the new arrangements

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/Mmonkey-pile-_10770.gif)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/d42ea623.gif) Scared Monkeys


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:16:57 PM
Quote from: "sb"
THIS IS NOIT GOODBYE!

We will all be here, together, tomorrow.

The fight continues...


BINGO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:17:32 PM
Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
Should we all hold hands and sing Auld Lang Syne ?
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/Muzzydog/gen127.gif)

Should auld acquaintance be forgot......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
If someone doesn't take a picture of me soon, I'm going to turn blue.

(swooming dramatically)


Say Chuckycheeze  SMILE   CLICK

Destiny


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 11:17:37 PM
Natalee Holloway

We Remember

Natalee ~ We Remember

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgkecmdnlh8


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 27, 2007, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: "Tibrogargan"
Should we all hold hands and sing Auld Lang Syne ?

or Kumbaya..... :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:18:01 PM
Um...before we go under, can I ask a question?  Where do we find the new SM?  Same URL?  Just want to be sure...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:18:49 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Um...before we go under, can I ask a question?  Where do we find the new SM?  Same URL?  Just want to be sure...



yes mamam...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Observer on July 27, 2007, 11:18:56 PM
This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
Ill never look into your eyes...again


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 11:19:17 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "sb"
THIS IS NOIT GOODBYE!

We will all be here, together, tomorrow.

The fight continues...


BINGO


I can fit Mrs.  music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTo7BXlqcHs into a new fight song...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:19:19 PM
Oh, geez, Red and Dugga didn't change our address, did they?  I hope they are only redecorating and haven't moved us.  We need a forwarding address!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 27, 2007, 11:19:20 PM
Quote from: "A's Fever"
Quote from: "Elaine"
We are not going down alone.....
In total there are 61 users online :: 27 Registered, 0 Hidden and 34 Guests [ Administrator ] [ Moderator ]
Most users ever online was 217 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:20 pm
Registered Users: A's Fever, Angiex911dsptchr, AZLady, AZSunny, BTgirl, CJ1, Destiny, Easywriter, Elaine, Frijole, GreatOwl, IBE, Karo, klaasend, Magnolia, mrs. red, *******, oldfart, ospainter, pdh3, San, sb, sleddogs, snoopy, Sue, tcumom, Tibrogargan


Why 6/4/07 I wonder?


We were tangoing to the beat of Shango


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 11:19:22 PM
Quote from: "A's Fever"
Quote from: "Elaine"
We are not going down alone.....
In total there are 61 users online :: 27 Registered, 0 Hidden and 34 Guests [ Administrator ] [ Moderator ]
Most users ever online was 217 on Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:20 pm
Registered Users: A's Fever, Angiex911dsptchr, AZLady, AZSunny, BTgirl, CJ1, Destiny, Easywriter, Elaine, Frijole, GreatOwl, IBE, Karo, klaasend, Magnolia, mrs. red, *******, oldfart, ospainter, pdh3, San, sb, sleddogs, snoopy, Sue, tcumom, Tibrogargan


Why 6/4/07 I wonder?
I don't know, but if the archives go with us to the new forum we can look that date and time up


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 27, 2007, 11:19:31 PM
Say goodnight Gracie,  Goodnight George.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:19:54 PM
I hope when Justice finally comes for Natalee, we, here on the board, together for a long time, will have a private place online to do to.

You know, how computers have cameras and we could have an online party because even if we have a physical meeting place in a city, not all will be able to attend.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:20:14 PM
Hi Tib.  Yeah, that was one of our better tango days.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 27, 2007, 11:20:46 PM
Maybe Red's letting us put thread 666 to bed.... :shock:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 11:20:58 PM
Tribute to Natalee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWPVYn7KO90


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:21:08 PM
OK.. how about this for nostaglia... and maybe in the new cage I will actually use my spell check....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NqTuN-35580


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Um...before we go under, can I ask a question?  Where do we find the new SM?  Same URL?  Just want to be sure...


(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/437fd399.gif)
they would not change that  w/o telling us.... Would they  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:21:14 PM
If they do break it, let’s all promise to meet at the Empire State building on New Year’s Eve!   :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:21:21 PM
Let's post a whole bunch real fast and see if we can get to page 50!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:21:33 PM
Well, I'm afraid to type more than a line or two or it will get shut out.  I really hate it when that happens, you know?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 11:21:54 PM
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:22:09 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
If they do break it, let’s all promise to meet at the Empire State building on New Year’s Eve!   :(

Golly! That would be an affair to remember, wouldn't it?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: A's Fever on July 27, 2007, 11:22:34 PM
Ah,  what a tease!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 27, 2007, 11:22:46 PM
Are you alright AZLady - I have never seen a blue monkey before


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 11:22:47 PM
Quote from: "sleddogs"
Natalee Holloway

We Remember

Natalee ~ We Remember

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgkecmdnlh8


thanks Selddogs
I should have Know they would be there


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 27, 2007, 11:22:55 PM
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.


Well, pffffttt!!! I'm packing then. See ya!!!!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:23:03 PM
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Maybe Red's letting us put thread 666 to bed.... :shock:  :shock:


 Hope so  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:23:17 PM
Yeah, like in the movie.  We'll all meet at the Empire State Building on New Years Eve, except no one will know what anyone else looks like, so we'll all be looking and watching every taxi that drives up...waiting for someone like a Monkey to step out...and we won't know each other!!

YOW!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:23:25 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "AZLady"
If someone doesn't take a picture of me soon, I'm going to turn blue.

(swooming dramatically)


Say Chuckycheeze  SMILE   CLICK

Destiny


Who cut the cheese?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 27, 2007, 11:23:25 PM
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.
Huh?????


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:23:42 PM
I could just see me married on the East Coast somewhere and having to sneak out of the bed, bedroom and check in to see the new Board at 2AM

Would that be the end of a marriage or the sign of Monkey addiction.

I can't think of a better way to have an addiction!  For the Good Works for the Justice for Natalee!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.


lmao.  I can't stay up forever ya  know. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:24:30 PM
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.


You have to be kidding me!!!  I went through all that for nothing?  OMG.  Well, I need to recover now--that really took it all out of me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 27, 2007, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.



Ran outta beer huh?....run to store did they...

Destiny  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 27, 2007, 11:24:45 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
If they do break it, let’s all promise to meet at the Empire State building on New Year’s Eve!   :(

Golly! That would be an affair to remember, wouldn't it?


 :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 11:24:58 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
OK.. how about this for nostaglia... and maybe in the new cage I will actually use my spell check....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NqTuN-35580




 8)  Awesome song Mrs~!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 11:25:02 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.


You have to be kidding me!!!  I went through all that for nothing?  OMG.  Well, I need to recover now--that really took it all out of me.



 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:25:18 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
If they do break it, let’s all promise to meet at the Empire State building on New Year’s Eve!   :(


Yes and watch the traffic getting there!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sb on July 27, 2007, 11:25:30 PM
The wonders of modern technology... the best of plans...

all go by the wayside sometimes.

Maybe this old Cage is fighting its own extinction!

Anyway, I am truly going to quit posting and the changeover will happen... while I dream... and tomorrow will be a New Day for our Cage and this effort.

 :wink:

See Y'all


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:25:53 PM
San... did they lie to me?  did you get an email...

hey I might have to kill them for making me lie to y'all!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 11:26:14 PM
OMG, are we still here? what did I miss? I just put little pooh to bed and we're already on page 49. I'm glad #666 won't be the last thread...that was bothering me a little bit  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:26:15 PM
You know, I just can't get this dramatic twice in one day.  I need a powder.  I'll be retiring to my boudoir now.  Carry on, Monks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:26:56 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.


You have to be kidding me!!!  I went through all that for nothing?  OMG.  Well, I need to recover now--that really took it all out of me.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:26:57 PM
Nite SB....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: IBE on July 27, 2007, 11:27:05 PM
Quote from: "snoopy"
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.


lmao.  I can't stay up forever ya  know. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


San  did you get this information from Aruba? :lol:  :lol: [/b]


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 27, 2007, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
OMG, are we still here? what did I miss? I just put little pooh to bed and we're already on page 49. I'm glad #666 won't be the last thread...that was bothering me a little bit  :wink:


i wanted to skip the entire thread... i don't like it...


ang.. you gotta  love G&R huh??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Shell on July 27, 2007, 11:28:10 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
Quote from: "snoopy"
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.


lmao.  I can't stay up forever ya  know. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


San  did you get this information from Aruba? :lol:  :lol: [/b]


LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:28:42 PM
IBE, I don't know who to trust now.  Honey, hold my hand while fanning my very hot and damp little face.  There, there, that's better.  We can't take too much of this excitement, you know?  It's just ....   just ....  I swear.... just too much.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 27, 2007, 11:29:22 PM
Quote from: "Destiny"
Quote from: "San"
ATTENTION

THE FORUM IS NOT GOING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.



Ran outta beer huh?....run to store did they...

Destiny  :D

Not sure about them  but.. I'm getting close  :wink:  :lol:  :lol:

Well this way we will not end on thread 666


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Shell on July 27, 2007, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "mishy"
OMG, are we still here? what did I miss? I just put little pooh to bed and we're already on page 49. I'm glad #666 won't be the last thread...that was bothering me a little bit  :wink:


i wanted to skip the entire thread... i don't like it...


ang.. you gotta  love G&R huh??


I like lots of music, G&R included, and I am way older than u Mrs :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 27, 2007, 11:29:49 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
IBE, I don't know who to trust now.  Honey, hold my hand while fanning my very hot and damp little face.  There, there, that's better.  We can't take too much of this excitement, you know?  It's just ....   just ....  I swear.... just too much.


 :lol:  :lol:  I was just able to speak with Dugga.  He is the one who told me the forum won't be going down for a couple more hours.  We will be moving to the next thread as usual.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 27, 2007, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "mishy"
OMG, are we still here? what did I miss? I just put little pooh to bed and we're already on page 49. I'm glad #666 won't be the last thread...that was bothering me a little bit  :wink:


i wanted to skip the entire thread... i don't like it...


ang.. you gotta  love G&R huh??


 8)  Yep..
 Bed of Roses is another I like  .. :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:30:04 PM
Well, San, I'm pulling myself together now.

What do you expect us to talk about now?  This is a bit of an anticlimax, if you know what I mean.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 11:30:12 PM
I'M GOING TO LOCK THE THREAD AT PAGE 50


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: mishy on July 27, 2007, 11:30:15 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "mishy"
OMG, are we still here? what did I miss? I just put little pooh to bed and we're already on page 49. I'm glad #666 won't be the last thread...that was bothering me a little bit  :wink:


i wanted to skip the entire thread... i don't like it...


ang.. you gotta  love G&R huh??


I don't blame you Mrs! Did they really say it would be another couple of hours?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 27, 2007, 11:30:19 PM
Waiting for Natalee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w-GB5VBx0U


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: San on July 27, 2007, 11:31:01 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Scared%20Monkeys/nowlocked.jpg)

Please move to LCD #667

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=255736#255736


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 27, 2007, 11:31:13 PM
Okay. Lala's, let's Tango!   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #666 7/26 - 7/27/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 27, 2007, 11:31:21 PM
I'm running outta  sody (soda for all ya'll that don't talk right)
 :lol:  :lol: