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Title: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/30/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 07:33:38 PM
Let's hope 2007 brings Justice for Natalee

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/candleman2justice2007.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 08:30:58 PM
 8)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 08:40:29 PM
Made it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 08:42:08 PM


I got left behind again!!  8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 08:42:41 PM
thanks again everyone


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 08:44:22 PM
thanks again everyone

No problem.  We were all scared by that, earlier today.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 08:44:42 PM
8)

 :shock:  Cheater  LMAO  Robots will be upset..  :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 08:45:42 PM

Tell her to take a nap

I saw that!   Thanks Klaas.  I appreciate yours and Angie's help.  I think it was my bookmark.  BTW how long does it take after someone registers to be able to log on the first time? 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 08:45:55 PM
thanks again everyone

Your Welcome


 :-D

Hope this works


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 08:46:26 PM
Does anyone know if the Simian post mentioned earlier regarding the body of Natalee being found was made at the same time Dave & Beth were taken to the courthouse for the supposed same reason?? TIA!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2007, 08:46:38 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
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(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 08:47:11 PM
thanks again everyone

No problem.  We were all scared by that, earlier today.

Good to know I wasn't alone!  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 08:47:13 PM
You're.... not your.  Dang


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 08:47:23 PM
Hotshot had made a post in the last thread that Tim's search in aruba is going to be delayed? Something about a search for another woman? Have we heard anything about this. I did read on the front page that TES was going to search for Donna Jou, but does this necessarily mean that aruba will be delayed?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 08:48:18 PM
8)

 :shock:  Cheater  LMAO  Robots will be upset..  :lol: :lol: :lol:

he made me do it


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 08:48:25 PM
Does anyone know if the Simian post mentioned earlier regarding the body of Natalee being found was made at the same time Dave & Beth were taken to the courthouse for the supposed same reason?? TIA!

I believe the courthouse ordeal was around the 11th, and Moko was the 26th or 27th


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2007, 08:49:28 PM
Does anyone know if the Simian post mentioned earlier regarding the body of Natalee being found was made at the same time Dave & Beth were taken to the courthouse for the supposed same reason?? TIA!

If true, then they found her twice...once on June 10th (?) and again on the 27th...they were not kidding when it was said that she was being moved all around.  (GRAIN OF TRUTH IN EVERY LIE) :-x


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 08:49:34 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
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(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

International waters isn't it?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 08:49:40 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

Ships may want to refuel or repair in Venezuelan waters...you know how keeping those things afloat can be... :cool:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 08:51:22 PM
Does anyone know if the Simian post mentioned earlier regarding the body of Natalee being found was made at the same time Dave & Beth were taken to the courthouse for the supposed same reason?? TIA!

The post you are referring to was the day of the quarry search.  It was also the second day that Shango began posting.  Simian fully expected them to find Natalee at the quarry.  But...she was never at the quarry and guess what?  Shango knew that.  Sorry, if I have upset anyone that is less than happy with Shango, it's true.  Shango was certain that she would not be found at the quarry. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: sb on July 28, 2007, 08:51:41 PM
I don't think a search like the one TES is putting together will be pre-empted by another missing person's search in California. They are 2 totally different efforts in scope. Getting boats and equipment like what TES will be using this time makes it a powerful end unto itself that would be hard to derail, or even reschedule.

I HOPE that siddalee is wrong about the possible Chavez interference, although it would not surprise me. I also hope Tim Miller is VERY, VERY CAREFUL.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 08:51:55 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

This may be a crazy question, but do you have to have permission to sail/drive a boat in those waters? Is it only because they want to search for a missing American???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Hotshot on July 28, 2007, 08:52:18 PM
Quote
HOTSHOT - are you sure TES is delayed?  Just because they are searching in California does not mean another group can't go to Aruba.  I imaging that the TES people will be more spectators on the ship anyway since it's specialized equipment.

Thats true, there may be different groups, I just want to see Tim go there and do his thing. Once and for all to get it done.  


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 08:52:25 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

He doesn't want anyone to interfer with his drug runners :rambo:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: sb on July 28, 2007, 08:53:46 PM
BTW from what I see this new Cage is sailing along like a charm! It works as easy and as well as the old one and looks WAY better.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 08:54:22 PM
Does anyone know if the Simian post mentioned earlier regarding the body of Natalee being found was made at the same time Dave & Beth were taken to the courthouse for the supposed same reason?? TIA!

I believe the courthouse ordeal was around the 11th, and Moko was the 26th or 27th

Thanks Snoopy


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 08:54:40 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

Does Siddalee liase with Chavez?  How would she know?  I think Red said that had been worked out already.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 08:57:07 PM
I still think these ships are already covered (by their business dealings) to be in the Caribbean waters.  They are probably the ones that laid and service the fiber optic cables.  I would guess, that they won't be flying Natalee's flag.  The less fuss, the better. IMO


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 08:58:11 PM
I still think these ships are already covered (by their business dealings) to be in the Caribbean waters.  They are probably the ones that laid and service the fiber optic cables.  I would guess, that they won't be flying Natalee's flag.  The less fuss, the better. IMO

That's what I wanted to hear! :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 28, 2007, 08:59:58 PM
8)

 :shock:  Cheater  LMAO  Robots will be upset..  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Angie!
 
Did your Sweety-POOPS ChuckyRat send You cheese flowers today
  :-P

Hugs Destiny   :smt081


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 09:03:01 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 09:03:18 PM
BTW from what I see this new Cage is sailing along like a charm! It works as easy and as well as the old one and looks WAY better.

I agree - I LOVE IT!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 09:04:26 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

Does Siddalee liase with Chavez?  How would she know?  I think Red said that had been worked out already.

 Maybe her skanky Fluffa kid Rehno is feeding her a line of BS to spread on the net.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 28, 2007, 09:04:39 PM
Hello again, Monkeys.  Welcome to all the new monkeys posting here for the first time - we will all be learning together.

Now, would someone please put my mind at rest and let me know if I have the little envelope thingy showing where you can read my email address?  Certainly don't want any nasty mail even though my spam filter is very good at chewing such things up and spitting them out.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 09:06:21 PM
8)

 :shock:  Cheater  LMAO  Robots will be upset..  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Angie!
 
Did your Sweety-POOPS ChuckyRat send You cheese flowers today
  :-P

Hugs Destiny   :smt081


ROFL  Sweety poops?   :lol: :lol: Nah sent a diamond instead..  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 09:08:20 PM
Hello again, Monkeys.  Welcome to all the new monkeys posting here for the first time - we will all be learning together.

Now, would someone please put my mind at rest and let me know if I have the little envelope thingy showing where you can read my email address?  Certainly don't want any nasty mail even though my spam filter is very good at chewing such things up and spitting them out.


  Hi Tibro   You are safe !! Nothing showing   :cool:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 09:10:16 PM
Hello again, Monkeys.  Welcome to all the new monkeys posting here for the first time - we will all be learning together.

Now, would someone please put my mind at rest and let me know if I have the little envelope thingy showing where you can read my email address?  Certainly don't want any nasty mail even though my spam filter is very good at chewing such things up and spitting them out.


If you check the HIDDEN box in your profile your email addy will only show up for YOU and ADMIN.  There have been so many questions about it though, Dugga may just set it to default to HIDDEN.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 09:10:26 PM
I went to some other sites here and just came back. When I left, the avatars et al were on the left and the messages were to the right. Now the avatars are on top with big (bandwith ) spaces on the right and the messages at the bottom. Is it my browser?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 28, 2007, 09:10:57 PM
Why are the posts so far below the aviators?  there is a huge  blank space and then the cramped messages.  It wasn't like this earlier?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: San on July 28, 2007, 09:11:07 PM
Hello again, Monkeys.  Welcome to all the new monkeys posting here for the first time - we will all be learning together.

Now, would someone please put my mind at rest and let me know if I have the little envelope thingy showing where you can read my email address?  Certainly don't want any nasty mail even though my spam filter is very good at chewing such things up and spitting them out.

Only you and mods can see that envelope.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 09:11:47 PM
Hello again, Monkeys.  Welcome to all the new monkeys posting here for the first time - we will all be learning together.

Now, would someone please put my mind at rest and let me know if I have the little envelope thingy showing where you can read my email address?  Certainly don't want any nasty mail even though my spam filter is very good at chewing such things up and spitting them out.


Hi Tib! I had the same concerns earlier. Apparentlly only you and the ADMIN can see your little enevelope email link.  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 28, 2007, 09:12:05 PM
never mind,  now it isn't like that.  :smt101


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2007, 09:12:24 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

Does Siddalee liase with Chavez?  How would she know?  I think Red said that had been worked out already.


I am sure he is getting all the ducks in order and dotting all the i's and crossing all the t's...this is a HUGE TASK! He knows what needs to be done to get it done.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 28, 2007, 09:15:10 PM
Hello again, Monkeys.  Welcome to all the new monkeys posting here for the first time - we will all be learning together.

Now, would someone please put my mind at rest and let me know if I have the little envelope thingy showing where you can read my email address?  Certainly don't want any nasty mail even though my spam filter is very good at chewing such things up and spitting them out.


  Hi Tibro   You are safe !! Nothing showing   :cool:


Thanks, Angie.  BTW you are doing a good job with only one or two fingers.  Is that what they call the Columbus method of typing - discover it and land on it? 
Loving the new cage.
Only thing I could do without is where it tells me how long I have been logged in  :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 09:15:10 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

Does Siddalee liase with Chavez?  How would she know?  I think Red said that had been worked out already.

 Maybe her skanky Fluffa kid Rehno is feeding her a line of BS to spread on the net.

I'm thinking Skank Jr. may be in for another 30 days of rehab.  Haven't seen her posting.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 09:15:23 PM
I went to some other sites here and just came back. When I left, the avatars et al were on the left and the messages were to the right. Now the avatars are on top with big (bandwith ) spaces on the right and the messages at the bottom. Is it my browser?

IBE
I was scanning to catch up in the last Cage.. and when I when I went to the next page..
Bammm just what you said... then the next page was back to this (normal) style.
The Magicians are doing some tweaking ... which Is fine by me...
Just take a breath .. say it is Ok.. I'm NOT seeing things.. and keep on going...  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2007, 09:17:07 PM
I went to some other sites here and just came back. When I left, the avatars et al were on the left and the messages were to the right. Now the avatars are on top with big (bandwith ) spaces on the right and the messages at the bottom. Is it my browser?


That happened to me today when the page turns over as you enter...then just refresh and it is ok.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 09:19:47 PM
thanks Old Fart I was reading backwards on the previous Thread also. Am beginning to like the new looks! :lol: :lol:

I find on one of the browsers I don't get the ads on the right and don't get the site meter, but at least now I can find them!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 09:20:58 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 28, 2007, 09:21:35 PM
Hello again, Monkeys.  Welcome to all the new monkeys posting here for the first time - we will all be learning together.

Now, would someone please put my mind at rest and let me know if I have the little envelope thingy showing where you can read my email address?  Certainly don't want any nasty mail even though my spam filter is very good at chewing such things up and spitting them out.


Hi Tib! I had the same concerns earlier. Apparentlly only you and the ADMIN can see your little enevelope email link.  :-)

Hi Shadow - thanks for that.  I was here earlier and there were a few hiccups but all getting ironed out as we go along.  I am a panic merchant.   :lol:  Amazing they could set all this up with only a couple hours off line and have it running as well as it is. 

And now I see I can go back add smileys in text already written and not have them pop up at end of posting as they did before.  I am so happy with such simple things   8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
O/T

I should not ask but HAVE to.....
LaLa'ls did I read where you got Locked out to for a bit?

Could you read everything but not get anyone's attention to your plight ? No way to shout out for H E L P...?

Did you feel like one of the Garfield Toys stuck to the car window.. wanting in/out but could not do anything about it?



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 09:22:59 PM
Klaas
I may have missed your answer, if so I apologize.  How long does it take from the time a person registers to being activated?  Does it happen immediately? TIA


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 09:24:32 PM
O/T

I should not ask but HAVE to.....
LaLa'ls did I read where you got Locked out to for a bit?

Could you read everything but not get anyone's attention to your plight ? No way to shout out for H E L P...?

Did you feel like one of the Garfield Toys stuck to the car window.. wanting in/out but could not do anything about it?



Yes, it was a bit scary.  I had my nose pressed against the cage and was shouting and no one could hear me. LOL


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 09:25:11 PM
Ok.. I start a few steps in the Tango as soon as I take lots of asperin :grin:

Who, besides, Geraldo mentions the making of a video..Shango or Simian or both?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 09:28:04 PM
Ok.. I start a few steps in the Tango as soon as I take lots of asperin :grin:

Who, besides, Geraldo mentions the making of a video..Shango or Simian or both?

Hammer  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Red on July 28, 2007, 09:29:27 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

International waters isn't it?

Well if its a Dutch investigation then Aruba does not have any say now do they? Trust me on the fact that they have talked to Dutch investigators to get an ok. Also, at a certain point it is International waters.

Also, TES is able the walk and chew gum at the same time. They are always doing more than one search at a time. Presently they are in FL. Soon to be doing a search in TN next week and also in CA. TES is all over the place as unfortunately there are missing people everywhere.

There are always logistics that go on in a high level, high tech search. This is not a simple task of organizing volunteers to search in the woods or a field. The majority of people going on the Aruba search with be tech folk. We will let you know if there are any real delays.

If any come up they are for logistics, not because of other searches. TES never turns a family down that wants help and they are not about to start now,

TES is about all missing people.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 09:30:00 PM
Ok.. I start a few steps in the Tango as soon as I take lots of asperin :grin:

Who, besides, Geraldo mentions the making of a video..Shango or Simian or both?

Well, I was reading in the old FP archives and it was mentioned by several people posting from Aruba early on.  Not necessarily in the context of it being Natalee, just that those videos were commonplace among the pimps. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 09:30:22 PM
O/T

I should not ask but HAVE to.....
LaLa'ls did I read where you got Locked out to for a bit?

Could you read everything but not get anyone's attention to your plight ? No way to shout out for H E L P...?

Did you feel like one of the Garfield Toys stuck to the car window.. wanting in/out but could not do anything about it?

I'm glad I was not the only one to go Thu... the "standing at the window" trama
Heck I was also doing  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/6.gif) 

Sorry you had to go Thu it.   :-(..   How many pencils did you break while watching  :?



Yes, it was a bit scary.  I had my nose pressed against the cage and was shouting and no one could hear me. LOL


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 28, 2007, 09:32:15 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

I see they let you back in, Lala's.  Did they confiscate your book and pencils?  8-)

Where had Natalee and the others been when they had to assist her back to her hotel room because she had been "drinking too much"  Could this have been a previous attempt at drugging her drink?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 09:33:06 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

OK, I'll give it a shot . . . sorry the slow response . . . wireless is slow and storms are coming in. Here goes: I have always been curious about these statements made by Simian. I know it's not Shango, but I'm hoping you are still willing to tango.  :-)

Posted Jun 30, 3:20 PM | Edit Comment | Delete Comment | Edit Post “Kalpoe Family Denied Texas EquuSearch From Searching Around Their House” | View Post
10.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian says that the cowboys will not find the gold. Where is she then?
The Babylonians think that there are a lot of forked tongues where the Yellowhammer calls home.
It’s very hard to find things that don’t want to be found.
The theory about The Picaros has been thrown out the window.
American Special Interest are making the island hold hands. If there is a chink in there profit chain, they will make sure their paysans understand. Americans will not hurt their own interests.
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11.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian has an IQ of 149 as measured by Gringos.
All of the words of the cohorts of the boy and the Hindus have been hi-jacked. For weeks already. The confrontation of yesterday was brutal. More lies woven. The boy has to fall apart. The Babylonians have their swords ready…
North American special interests have organized a “human chain of prayers� in Aruba. From the Wyndham to the Holiday Inn. Are afraid for their multi-million dollar investments? The Simian heard from the Gringos say they are doing OK. The bread won’t be taken from them. They will just sit this one out.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 09:35:13 PM
Give me a minute and I will give you my take...I hope that others do also.  As I am not an expert on this stuff. BRB


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 09:35:27 PM
Hello again, Monkeys.  Welcome to all the new monkeys posting here for the first time - we will all be learning together.

Now, would someone please put my mind at rest and let me know if I have the little envelope thingy showing where you can read my email address?  Certainly don't want any nasty mail even though my spam filter is very good at chewing such things up and spitting them out.


Hi Tib! I had the same concerns earlier. Apparentlly only you and the ADMIN can see your little enevelope email link.  :-)

Hi Shadow - thanks for that.  I was here earlier and there were a few hiccups but all getting ironed out as we go along.  I am a panic merchant.   :lol:  Amazing they could set all this up with only a couple hours off line and have it running as well as it is. 

And now I see I can go back add smileys in text already written and not have them pop up at end of posting as they did before.  I am so happy with such simple things   8-)

Funny you mention the smilie thing . . . that always bugged me before, but I hadn't noticed the new change. Cool . . . thaks for pointing it out.  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 09:40:38 PM

Shango:

DirtyHand = Vanderstraten
Arawak DirtyHand = Dompig
dirtyhand = Lorenzo
gardeners =  not the gardener that saw J2K at the pond, but the drug dealers who cultivate their crop.

The only thing about Shango is that he seems to always steer J2K away from natalee's Murder?  As if Juron is scared of someone else, and he did nothing wrong really.  Well maybe Juron is scared of someone, but he is just as guilty.

Possibly the "more than one house of rave" means 1st Natalee was taken to JVDS house, and then to another party.  Lorenzo's or I still have in the back of my mind the back entrance of the Holiday Inn to a party.   We heard that a room had been completely remodeled after Natalee dissapeared.  I also believe the mattress with dog blood on it had evidence of Natalee on it.

JMO of course


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 09:40:46 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

OK, I'll give it a shot . . . sorry the slow response . . . wireless is slow and storms are coming in. Here goes: I have always been curious about these statements made by Simian. I know it's not Shango, but I'm hoping you are still willing to tango.  :-)

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10.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian says that the cowboys will not find the gold. Where is she then?
The Babylonians think that there are a lot of forked tongues where the Yellowhammer calls home.
It’s very hard to find things that don’t want to be found.
The theory about The Picaros has been thrown out the window.
American Special Interest are making the island hold hands. If there is a chink in there profit chain, they will make sure their paysans understand. Americans will not hurt their own interests. I think Simian was listening to the comments about the answers being in MB at this time.  Don't know if he believed it or not, just that he repeated it. Also, there was rumors of things concerning Beth and her family around this time and I think Simian got duped over it also.  After all, if Simian was in ALE he would most certainly have heard this too.
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11.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian has an IQ of 149 as measured by Gringos.
All of the words of the cohorts of the boy and the Hindus have been hi-jacked. For weeks already. The confrontation of yesterday was brutal. More lies woven. The boy has to fall apart. The Babylonians have their swords ready…
North American special interests have organized a “human chain of prayers� in Aruba. From the Wyndham to the Holiday Inn. Are afraid for their multi-million dollar investments? The Simian heard from the Gringos say they are doing OK. The bread won’t be taken from them. They will just sit this one out.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 09:41:46 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

I see they let you back in, Lala's.  Did they confiscate your book and pencils?  8-)

Where had Natalee and the others been when they had to assist her back to her hotel room because she had been "drinking too much"  Could this have been a previous attempt at drugging her drink?

If I am not mistaken, there was some dicussion to that effect not too long ago here in the forum. i think it is very possible. I have always thought she or and her friends were targeted early on . . . it was a night, IIRC, that she and her friends were at C&C's. Anyone else know??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 09:45:17 PM
I'm not into  S&S
but
Quote
The confrontation of yesterday was brutal. More lies woven
from the June 30th... So what went down on the 29th ???  Whether in MSM reports or PV's taken


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 09:45:55 PM
Shango also alludes to the fact that Natalee went willingly with J2K thinking she was going to a party, and that she was a willing participant in taking drugs.  I don't believe either of those things for one second.  Natalee was drugged, carved out, and kidnapped.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 09:46:03 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

I see they let you back in, Lala's.  Did they confiscate your book and pencils?  8-)

Where had Natalee and the others been when they had to assist her back to her hotel room because she had been "drinking too much"  Could this have been a previous attempt at drugging her drink?

If I am not mistaken, there was some dicussion to that effect not too long ago here in the forum. i think it is very possible. I have always thought she or and her friends were targeted early on . . . it was a night, IIRC, that she and her friends were at C&C's. Anyone else know??

Well, I reread Dash's (Alana's) posts today.  Joran had been hanging around the HI, too.  I'm not so sure that he or one of the other locals couldn't have spiked her drink Saturday....at C&C or not.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 09:46:54 PM
Klaas
I may have missed your answer, if so I apologize.  How long does it take from the time a person registers to being activated?  Does it happen immediately? TIA
They still have to be activated by me or Red.  I can activate people right away if I'm sure they are OK.  Some take longer than others.  I've been pretty busy too.  Why?  Is someone waiting?  I have activated quite a few today.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Rob on July 28, 2007, 09:47:15 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

I see they let you back in, Lala's.  Did they confiscate your book and pencils?  8-)

Where had Natalee and the others been when they had to assist her back to her hotel room because she had been "drinking too much"  Could this have been a previous attempt at drugging her drink?

If I am not mistaken, there was some dicussion to that effect not too long ago here in the forum. i think it is very possible. I have always thought she or and her friends were targeted early on . . . it was a night, IIRC, that she and her friends were at C&C's. Anyone else know??

what does the number 2 signify on the cartoon from Canada. Possibly drugged twice?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 09:47:29 PM
You are correct Snoopy, Shango was trying to say Joran didn't mean to have happen what happened to her.  I don't buy that for one minute.  I will say this...at the time Shango was writing this stuff, he may have actually thought that was the case.  If you read those old FP posts, you will see that all those in Aruba thought this very thing at the time.  I  have found it very interesting to go back over the archives.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 09:47:53 PM
Were those Simian posts verified as from the same IP??  The whole tone sounds different.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 09:48:30 PM
Lala's - do you know of someone who has registered (that is OK) that is waiting to get approved?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 09:48:35 PM
Klaas
I may have missed your answer, if so I apologize.  How long does it take from the time a person registers to being activated?  Does it happen immediately? TIA
They still have to be activated by me or Red.  I can activate people right away if I'm sure they are OK.  Some take longer than others.  I've been pretty busy too.  Why?  Is someone waiting?  I have activated quite a few today.

Yes, I believe so.  Let me check again and I will get back to you. Thanks.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 09:49:14 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

OK, I'll give it a shot . . . sorry the slow response . . . wireless is slow and storms are coming in. Here goes: I have always been curious about these statements made by Simian. I know it's not Shango, but I'm hoping you are still willing to tango.  :-)

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10.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian says that the cowboys will not find the gold. Where is she then?
The Babylonians think that there are a lot of forked tongues where the Yellowhammer calls home.
It’s very hard to find things that don’t want to be found.
The theory about The Picaros has been thrown out the window.
American Special Interest are making the island hold hands. If there is a chink in there profit chain, they will make sure their paysans understand. Americans will not hurt their own interests. I think Simian was listening to the comments about the answers being in MB at this time.  Don't know if he believed it or not, just that he repeated it. Also, there was rumors of things concerning Beth and her family around this time and I think Simian got duped over it also.  After all, if Simian was in ALE he would most certainly have heard this too.
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11.   Name: Simian | E-mail: xx | IP: xx
The Simian has an IQ of 149 as measured by Gringos.
All of the words of the cohorts of the boy and the Hindus have been hi-jacked. For weeks already. The confrontation of yesterday was brutal. More lies woven. The boy has to fall apart. The Babylonians have their swords ready…
North American special interests have organized a “human chain of prayers� in Aruba. From the Wyndham to the Holiday Inn. Are afraid for their multi-million dollar investments? The Simian heard from the Gringos say they are doing OK. The bread won’t be taken from them. They will just sit this one out.



I completely agree that Simian was listening to the comments of the answers being in MB . . . or being fed specific information? But what do you make of the hotel investment reference, specifically Holiday and Wyndham . . . was there something more going on, being said or covered up by these particular american interests, things that could have solved the case early on??? Was he referring to lack of cooroperation as far as video surveillance, etc ... Just thinking out loud, JMO and would love to hear other input.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 09:52:00 PM
The archives are awesome to have back.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 09:53:12 PM


BBL


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 09:55:01 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

I see they let you back in, Lala's.  Did they confiscate your book and pencils?  8-)

Where had Natalee and the others been when they had to assist her back to her hotel room because she had been "drinking too much"  Could this have been a previous attempt at drugging her drink?

If I am not mistaken, there was some dicussion to that effect not too long ago here in the forum. i think it is very possible. I have always thought she or and her friends were targeted early on . . . it was a night, IIRC, that she and her friends were at C&C's. Anyone else know??

what does the number 2 signify on the cartoon from Canada. Possibly drugged twice?

I have wondered about the number 2 . . . it is definitely possible. What do we know about the cartoonist . . . was he just following the case in the news??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
Buckeye wrote;
Quote
Well, I reread Dash's (Alana's) posts today.  Joran had been hanging around the HI, too.  I'm not so sure that he or one of the other locals couldn't have spiked her drink Saturday....at C&C or not.

The only thing wrong with that theory IMO is that I think it was all part of the PIMPS mo to target girls on their last night on the island so they would not have time to do anything about
anything.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 10:02:13 PM
Lala's - do you know of someone who has registered (that is OK) that is waiting to get approved?

Yes, I will email you. Do I use hotmail?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 10:08:13 PM
Shadow
I am not sure about what I am about to say so don't hold me to it.  I know other monkeys are more up on this but, I think that may have been a reference to those hotels being owned by American interests.  AT the time I don't think Simian thought any of the greedy Americans would sacrifice their own livelihood for one young lady.  I think it was more of a you scratch our backs etc. thing at the time.  You have to remember that the boycott wasn't popular when it first happened. I am not even sure the boycott had been mentioned at the time. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 10:08:58 PM
Lala's - do you know of someone who has registered (that is OK) that is waiting to get approved?

Yes, I will email you. Do I use hotmail?
Yes, hotmail is fine


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2007, 10:12:50 PM
http://www.newswithviews.com/Kouri/jim9.htm

Jim Kouri, CPP August 11, 2005
ARUBA: A DRUG TRAFFICKER'S PARADISE

Aruba plays a significant role as an offshore center for drug-related money laundering. Money laundering organizations are well established on Aruba and enjoy protection from considerable bank secrecy laws and a stable currency.

Night all....




Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 10:13:45 PM
Nite Nut


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 10:17:28 PM
QUESTION - Do we have any Canadians posting right now?  I ask because I know Kat_Gram and Janet are both in Canada and are both having problems.

Has Leslie been able to post?  Has Dana been able to post?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 10:18:31 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:20:00 PM
Shadow
I am not sure about what I am about to say so don't hold me to it.  I know other monkeys are more up on this but, I think that may have been a reference to those hotels being owned by American interests.  AT the time I don't think Simian thought any of the greedy Americans would sacrifice their own livelihood for one young lady.  I think it was more of a you scratch our backs etc. thing at the time.  You have to remember that the boycott wasn't popular when it first happened. I am not even sure the boycott had been mentioned at the time. 

I won't hold you to it!  :-) I have always wondered though about the specific references of the HI and Wyndham  since IMO they are significant places of interest. Any thoughts???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Observer on July 28, 2007, 10:23:11 PM
Mishy is also having problems getting in. She is resetting the browser and will try other browsers as a she gets this error msg. She is on safari which I had no problems with earlier. Sounds like she is being directed to the old forum

Not Found

The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server.

Apache/2.0.54 (Fedora) Server at scaredmonkeys.net Port 80


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:23:36 PM
Good night Nut.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:25:19 PM
Mishy is also having problems getting in. She is resetting the browser and will try other browsers as a she gets this error msg. She is on safari which I had no problems with earlier. Sounds like she is being directed to the old forum

Not Found

The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server.

Apache/2.0.54 (Fedora) Server at scaredmonkeys.net Port 80

I had the forum go blank on me a few minutes ago, using Safari. I shut down safari, restarted and re-logged into the forum and all was back to normal.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:27:57 PM
Where did everyone go???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 10:28:06 PM
Mishy is also having problems getting in. She is resetting the browser and will try other browsers as a she gets this error msg. She is on safari which I had no problems with earlier. Sounds like she is being directed to the old forum

Not Found

The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server.

Apache/2.0.54 (Fedora) Server at scaredmonkeys.net Port 80

I can't bug DUGGA right now, he's working on our chat room.  Will make sure he's aware of Mishy's problem and others ASAP.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 10:28:50 PM
Shadow - went blank on me too.  I know Dugga is working on some stuff.  Could be why it went blank.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 10:29:07 PM
One more attempt... I did remember to save the post last time

You are correct Snoopy, Shango was trying to say Joran didn't mean to have happen what happened to her.  I don't buy that for one minute.  I will say this...at the time Shango was writing this stuff, he may have actually thought that was the case.  If you read those old FP posts, you will see that all those in Aruba thought this very thing at the time.  I  have found it very interesting to go back over the archives.

Ok... I will try again...   Ispell ... blew me away ... so I deleted it.. since we have our own spell checker...   I need to remember that it is available thought

New Digs .... NewFart
Quote
Joran didn't mean to have happen what happened to her
may be true..
WE DO NOT KNOW
Aruba has created a "Cover-up" so dammed big the could try to hide the entire ROCK of an island in it.
They have created a NO WIN situation...
Hell even the BOR chit... hinted at it.
  • Drag Natalee through the SLIME
  • O.D  with the boys
  •   The boys  panicked
BUT
That still does not tell us where she is...
Why out of 100,000 people NO ONE has the gone  ummm  WTF is going on..
And started asking Question of their GOVT...

Sometimes you have to TAKE the HIT, pick up your head and move forward.. IF NOT.. it will always haunt / eat at you because YOU know everyone ELSE knows the Truth.
 
Does anyone know if Aruba has anything like a Freedom of Information ACT ?

What the hell are the people of that Rock afraid of. ???

I'm not much on History ... but what little I know kinda of reminds of a European Country in the mid to late 1930's and the Govt. that was starting to take power there.

Of course this is JMO and does not reflect anyone elses views / thoughts
Old/New FART


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:30:22 PM
QUESTION - Do we have any Canadians posting right now?  I ask because I know Kat_Gram and Janet are both in Canada and are both having problems.

Has Leslie been able to post?  Has Dana been able to post?

Leslie posted this morning several times... haven't seen Dana or Kat-Gram?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 28, 2007, 10:30:26 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

Does Siddalee liase with Chavez?  How would she know?  I think Red said that had been worked out already.

 Maybe her skanky Fluffa kid Rehno is feeding her a line of BS to spread on the net.

just getting caught up... whew... but Ang... I knew exactly what skanky meant 8)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:32:07 PM
Shadow - went blank on me too.  I know Dugga is working on some stuff.  Could be why it went blank.

I figured . . .  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Observer on July 28, 2007, 10:32:54 PM


I can't bug DUGGA right now, he's working on our chat room.  Will make sure he's aware of Mishy's problem and others ASAP.

I'M not sure what else it could be if its not her browser. I suggested to her to reset the cpu and modem as thats about all I can think of ATM. Its like it is directing her to the old forums.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 28, 2007, 10:34:37 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

I see they let you back in, Lala's.  Did they confiscate your book and pencils?  8-)

Where had Natalee and the others been when they had to assist her back to her hotel room because she had been "drinking too much"  Could this have been a previous attempt at drugging her drink?

If I am not mistaken, there was some dicussion to that effect not too long ago here in the forum. i think it is very possible. I have always thought she or and her friends were targeted early on . . . it was a night, IIRC, that she and her friends were at C&C's. Anyone else know??

Well, I reread Dash's (Alana's) posts today.  Joran had been hanging around the HI, too.  I'm not so sure that he or one of the other locals couldn't have spiked her drink Saturday....at C&C or not.

Hello Monkeys,

I believe Friday night and Sunday night were the only ones Natalee was at CnC.  IIRC, Friday night was Night #2, time of the Ruckus at CnC.

Thank you for opening the cage door!

Slogger


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 10:35:47 PM


I can't bug DUGGA right now, he's working on our chat room.  Will make sure he's aware of Mishy's problem and others ASAP.

I'M not sure what else it could be if its not her browser. I suggested to her to reset the cpu and modem as thats about all I can think of ATM. Its like it is directing her to the old forums.

Right - that seem to be the common problem, directing to the old forum.  I'm sure all these issues will be resolved by tomorrow.  I'll make sure Dugga is aware of them.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 10:36:39 PM
WELCOME Slogger!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 10:36:42 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 10:38:36 PM
Hello Slogger
Glad you could join us  !!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Observer on July 28, 2007, 10:39:29 PM
Welcome slogger..I have enjoyed  your posts at BFN :salut:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 28, 2007, 10:39:44 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:40:13 PM
Lala's: Feel like a tango?  :-)

Sure, but you have to start it. I am tired of leading all the time.  :-D

I see they let you back in, Lala's.  Did they confiscate your book and pencils?  8-)

Where had Natalee and the others been when they had to assist her back to her hotel room because she had been "drinking too much"  Could this have been a previous attempt at drugging her drink?

If I am not mistaken, there was some dicussion to that effect not too long ago here in the forum. i think it is very possible. I have always thought she or and her friends were targeted early on . . . it was a night, IIRC, that she and her friends were at C&C's. Anyone else know??

Well, I reread Dash's (Alana's) posts today.  Joran had been hanging around the HI, too.  I'm not so sure that he or one of the other locals couldn't have spiked her drink Saturday....at C&C or not.

Hello Monkeys,

I believe Friday night and Sunday night were the only ones Natalee was at CnC.  IIRC, Friday night was Night #2, time of the Ruckus at CnC.

Thank you for opening the cage door!

Slogger

Welcome Slogger!
So who can recall, was she supposedly helped to her room on Saturday or Friday?? TIA


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:41:11 PM
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/new%20SM%20signs/607296001185120232-final.gif) Slogger


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 10:41:14 PM
Siddalee Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:30 pm  (RU)
Btw, Chavez will never, ever, never, allow Tim Miller to search Venezuelan waters.....  I also doubt that the Aruban Authorities would be in the authority to allow another search in Aruban waters since the Dutch are officially in charge of the investigation and like I mentioned before, a for sure " NO' from Chavez.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif)

Does Siddalee liase with Chavez?  How would she know?  I think Red said that had been worked out already.

 Maybe her skanky Fluffa kid Rehno is feeding her a line of BS to spread on the net.

just getting caught up... whew... but Ang... I knew exactly what skanky meant 8)

 ;-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Rob on July 28, 2007, 10:41:46 PM
Hey Slogger!!!

Klaas- fer the record - I'm having ZERO problems...everything works perfectly fine for me..

I think some have some settings on their older computers that are not in tune with this software upgrade.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 28, 2007, 10:42:07 PM
Hello Monkeys,

Slogger
Welcome Slogger!  


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 10:42:27 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.

  Welcome Slogger from another Pennsyltuckian   :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 10:42:34 PM
shadow

I thought Kevin Brody helped her Saturday night. IIRC


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:43:27 PM
Shadow - went blank on me too.  I know Dugga is working on some stuff.  Could be why it went blank.

Thanks Klass, Makes sense ... I noticed my envelope thingy is gone . . . Thank you to Dugga!  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:43:36 PM
renfro put the S in skanky  :P

she reminds me of the town gossip or the town crier, I dare Siddalee to post Renfro's credentials or lack thereof in journalism


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 10:43:42 PM
Hey Slogger!!!

Klaas- fer the record - I'm having ZERO problems...everything works perfectly fine for me..

I think some have some settings on their older computers that are not in tune with this software upgrade.

 Evening Rob.. I havn't had much troubles.. cept for a bit ago.. white pages.. but I think everyone had that?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 10:43:49 PM


Howdy Slogger  :smt006


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 10:44:11 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.

  Welcome Slogger from another Pennsyltuckian   :lol: :lol:

Did that clear Spell Check??  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:44:58 PM
shadow

I thought Kevin Brody helped her Saturday night. IIRC

buckeye when I confirmed that post you brought to the lively recently, I also was told that Natalee had an unusually low tolerance for alcohol as well


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 10:45:02 PM
renfro put the S in skanky  :P

she reminds me of the town gossip or the town crier, I dare Siddalee to post Renfro's credentials or lack thereof in journalism


 :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 10:45:37 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 10:46:26 PM
*******
If you are still around or happen on this ... post.

Could you e-mail at Unlucky@insightbb.com  nothing urgent...
And this e-mail addy used for all the UnLucky people that send Chit to it.. that I do an auto delete/dump on  weekly basis... so give me time to weed yours out everything else :lol:

Thanks


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 10:46:31 PM
shadow

I thought Kevin Brody helped her Saturday night. IIRC

buckeye when I confirmed that post you brought to the lively recently, I also was told that Natalee had an unusually low tolerance for alcohol as well

Now, that I would believe!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 10:46:47 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.

  Welcome Slogger from another Pennsyltuckian   :lol: :lol:

Did that clear Spell Check??  :lol:

  Must have   :lol: :lol: :lol:  Rob and NM and other PA people know what I mean.. LOL   :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 28, 2007, 10:47:02 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:47:37 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.

I completely agree BB, there was nothing coincidental nor accidental in Joran's presence around the HI that week or these teens from MB, he knew exactly what game he was playing and it wasn't just in that casino


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:48:27 PM
shadow

I thought Kevin Brody helped her Saturday night. IIRC

You are probably right . . . I couldn't remember.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:48:39 PM
shadow

I thought Kevin Brody helped her Saturday night. IIRC

buckeye when I confirmed that post you brought to the lively recently, I also was told that Natalee had an unusually low tolerance for alcohol as well

Now, that I would believe!!

I do too and the source is impeccable unlike BOR


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 28, 2007, 10:48:58 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.
The eastern part, i hope. We are not responsible for Medley...unlike Angie and Rob. :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 10:49:18 PM
renfro put the S in skanky  :P

she reminds me of the town gossip or the town crier, I dare Siddalee to post Renfro's credentials or lack thereof in journalism

Heard she "aced" Fiction Writing 101.  Of course, it could just be one of those rumors...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 10:49:42 PM
Howdy Slogger how are you ? WELCOME


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:51:09 PM
renfro put the S in skanky  :P

she reminds me of the town gossip or the town crier, I dare Siddalee to post Renfro's credentials or lack thereof in journalism

Heard she "aced" Fiction Writing 101.  Of course, it could just be one of those rumors...

well I'd also like Siddalee to splain those really nasty rumors about daughter dearest's flight from CA too, rumors that came from Aruba to boot !


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 10:51:11 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!

Dumb  Question...
I cannot remember if Natlee was alleded to over indulged  at the hotel or some place else.
Anyone ..remember...?
 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: A's Fever on July 28, 2007, 10:51:19 PM
LALA'S ~~

I don't know if this has been addressed yet, but I was just reading back in the last thread that you are having trouble logging on.  I posted earlier that the Login God was giving me a problem because of the apostrophe in my name, so you may be having the same problem.  The apostrophe is an invalid symbol.  I have to sign in as As Fever, which drives me nuts because it is so gramatically incorrect.  I was afraid you would have to write me up for that, but Angie set me straight and said that the apostrophe shows up.  Whew!   :) :) :)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 10:51:25 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.

Yes, you're probably right.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Frijole on July 28, 2007, 10:53:00 PM


Heard she "aced" Fiction Writing 101.  Of course, it could just be one of those rumors...

ROFL

 :smt044 :smt043 :smt042 :smt041 :smt041 :smt044 :smt043 :smt042 :smt038 :smt038 :smt038 :smt038 :smt038 :smt038 :smt038 :smt038 :smt046 :smt044 :smt046 :smt043 :smt046 :smt042 :smt046 :smt044


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:53:22 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.

Yes, you're probably right.

he's what we used to call a HUSTLER back in my day


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 28, 2007, 10:53:46 PM
Hi Slogger...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 28, 2007, 10:54:13 PM
Welcome to Slogger!
Great to see so many new Monkeys to enjoy our new Cages.

Yep, Joran and his band of knuckleheads had a well practiced routine, which obviously worked for them 20 times before.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:55:11 PM
Hey Beanie-

Buckeye's on a roll today with these new digs isn't she?  :lol: :lol: :lol: some inspired humor  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 28, 2007, 10:55:36 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.
The eastern part, i hope. We are not responsible for Medley...unlike Angie and Rob. :lol:

I'm nowhere near Medley--in location, or in spirit!   :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 10:55:56 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.

Yes, you're probably right.

IMO Joran wanted the tourist girls to feel like they were familiar with him. It would be alot harder to isolate and abduct them if they didn't. This was all part of the plan.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: CJ1 on July 28, 2007, 10:58:18 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.

  Welcome Slogger from another Pennsyltuckian   :lol: :lol:

Did that clear Spell Check??  :lol:

  Must have   :lol: :lol: :lol:  Rob and NM and other PA people know what I mean.. LOL   :lol:

Once a Pennsyltuckian always a Pennsyltuckian.  Still trying to get caught up after a day away.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 10:58:49 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.

Yes, you're probably right.

IMO Joran wanted the tourist girls to feel like they were familiar with him. It would be alot harder to isolate and abduct them if they didn't. This was all part of the plan.

I hate to even think how many times those gangsta's laughed about having duped the american girls, 21 times we know at least now  :-x


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 10:59:06 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.

Yes, you're probably right.

he's what we used to call a HUSTLER back in my day

Ok... time to bite the bullet...

I did not have the Ammo .. but I and other male buddy's at that age were Hustlers one way or another...
NOT sure what the Like Ladies called themselves but my group of guys refered to them at the Movers or Shakers...
Just so that you know
NewF


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 10:59:18 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.
The eastern part, i hope. We are not responsible for Medley...unlike Angie and Rob. :lol:

I'm nowhere near Medley--in location, or in spirit!   :lol:


  LOL  She is a hell of alot closer to Rob then to me..  :cool:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 28, 2007, 10:59:41 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!


A belated welcome to Slogger and Little None!

Slogger, was there an altercation with GVC and Natalee/MB kids and another with Joran and MB kids? The GVC incident has gotten a lot of play but have heard very little about the one with Joran.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:00:06 PM

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.

IMO this is what happened.. lying, saying he was a tourist student from Holland! and wearing an all inclusive hotel wrist thingie.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:00:58 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.

  Welcome Slogger from another Pennsyltuckian   :lol: :lol:

Did that clear Spell Check??  :lol:

  Must have   :lol: :lol: :lol:  Rob and NM and other PA people know what I mean.. LOL   :lol:

Once a Pennsyltuckian always a Pennsyltuckian.  Still trying to get caught up after a day away.

 8) I got your email and need to write back.. too cool.. went to MP HS and know all that area you spoke of like the back of my hand  :lol: :lol: :lol:  Esp Middle Churches..  :cool:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 28, 2007, 11:01:46 PM
Hi Monkeys,

I'm home from San Francisco, and whatever made my laptop work with the hotel wireless makes it not work here at home. I'm on hubby's computer briefly, but I'll only be here a second to say hello.

I haven't had a chance to read back and see what's been happening, but I guess that will have to wait for tomorrow. The quote stacks in the new setup are driving me crazy. I can't figure out who said what, and I think I'm to tired to try to work it out tonight, since I had to get up at 4:00 am today.

See you tomorrow if I can get my laptop fixed.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 28, 2007, 11:02:14 PM
Hi Monkeys,

I'm home from San Francisco, and whatever made my laptop work with the hotel wireless makes it not work here at home. I'm on hubby's computer briefly, but I'll only be here a second to say hello.

I haven't had a chance to read back and see what's been happening, but I guess that will have to wait for tomorrow. The quote stacks in the new setup are driving me crazy. I can't figure out who said what, and I think I'm to tired to try to work it out tonight, since I had to get up at 4:00 am today.

See you tomorrow if I can get my laptop fixed.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Frijole on July 28, 2007, 11:02:20 PM
Hey Beanie-

Buckeye's on a roll today with these new digs isn't she?  :lol: :lol: :lol: some inspired humor  :lol:

Yeah.... love the dry wit.  Man there are alot of buttons on the dashboard... what the heck are the excel spread sheet looking things?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Rob on July 28, 2007, 11:02:25 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.
The eastern part, i hope. We are not responsible for Medley...unlike Angie and Rob. :lol:

I'm nowhere near Medley--in location, or in spirit!   :lol:


  LOL  She is a hell of alot closer to Rob then to me..  :cool:

bullcrap... you're closer... I'm almost in the corner of the state...you are much closer...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:02:47 PM
BB

Tried to quote you, but got hung up.
True, it would not be the usual MO....unless someone made a mistake and they thought Saturday was the last night.

Of course anything is possible......but i think that was all part of jorans game. Hanging with the MB kids all week, telling them he too was a tourist, gaining their trust, finding out how long they were there for, and foremost scoping out the girls. All very casual, not to arouse suspicion.

Yes, you're probably right.

IMO Joran wanted the tourist girls to feel like they were familiar with him. It would be alot harder to isolate and abduct them if they didn't. This was all part of the plan.

I hate to even think how many times those gangsta's laughed about having duped the american girls, 21 times we know at least now  :-x

it is very disturbing


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:03:05 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.
The eastern part, i hope. We are not responsible for Medley...unlike Angie and Rob. :lol:

I'm nowhere near Medley--in location, or in spirit!   :lol:

 :lol: :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/VDSMedleybook.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:04:16 PM
Hi Monkeys,

I'm home from San Francisco, and whatever made my laptop work with the hotel wireless makes it not work here at home. I'm on hubby's computer briefly, but I'll only be here a second to say hello.

I haven't had a chance to read back and see what's been happening, but I guess that will have to wait for tomorrow. The quote stacks in the new setup are driving me crazy. I can't figure out who said what, and I think I'm to tired to try to work it out tonight, since I had to get up at 4:00 am today.

See you tomorrow if I can get my laptop fixed.


Nite BT - glad to hear you made it back home safely!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: robots on July 28, 2007, 11:04:45 PM
 8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 11:05:12 PM
OF-

Shame on you if you were a hustler  :lol: but I don't think you made girls disappear?

I grew up one hour from the beach, by the time I was 16 I had met more than one hustler and most just wanted a girl to take on the beach at night to have their way with her. Knowing so much about Joran's "game" via his book, I find it hard to believe he would be satisfied with all of his porn internet activity, in just a roll with a babe on the beach. His psyche needed much more than that, evidenced by his incapability to even curb his pathological lies. Again all traits of a sociopath.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 28, 2007, 11:05:23 PM
Hi Monkeys,

I'm home from San Francisco, and whatever made my laptop work with the hotel wireless makes it not work here at home. I'm on hubby's computer briefly, but I'll only be here a second to say hello.

I haven't had a chance to read back and see what's been happening, but I guess that will have to wait for tomorrow. The quote stacks in the new setup are driving me crazy. I can't figure out who said what, and I think I'm to tired to try to work it out tonight, since I had to get up at 4:00 am today.

See you tomorrow if I can get my laptop fixed.



Welcome back BT!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Rob on July 28, 2007, 11:05:36 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!

not Slogger, but I remember it as Joran and Beau the football player getting into it.


A belated welcome to Slogger and Little None!

Slogger, was there an altercation with GVC and Natalee/MB kids and another with Joran and MB kids? The GVC incident has gotten a lot of play but have heard very little about the one with Joran.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: casa on July 28, 2007, 11:06:10 PM
I hope I haven't said this 3 times!! I've been trying to post but don't see it.  Angie, I sent you an email.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:06:16 PM
Broughton' FBI 302 states "On Saturday, May 28th....Natalee was escorted back to her room....by Kevin Brody"

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:06:33 PM
Welcome home BT!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:07:00 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.
The eastern part, i hope. We are not responsible for Medley...unlike Angie and Rob. :lol:

I'm nowhere near Medley--in location, or in spirit!   :lol:


  LOL  She is a hell of alot closer to Rob then to me..  :cool:

bullcrap... you're closer... I'm almost in the corner of the state...you are much closer...

 I thought you were closer?    :shock: :shock:  Thats it.. Im moving..  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 28, 2007, 11:07:29 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!


A belated welcome to Slogger and Little None!

Slogger, was there an altercation with GVC and Natalee/MB kids and another with Joran and MB kids? The GVC incident has gotten a lot of play but have heard very little about the one with Joran.



Angie, Cootieville is way up north..or so.  LOL

Hello, Mrs Red.

Thank you, Tibro.

Thanks, Dayhiker.  The one with Joran was said to have been on Night #2, which would have been Friday.  Right?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 11:07:35 PM
G'nite BT
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/BT_ToothBrush.gif)

Love trip update s:grin:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: San on July 28, 2007, 11:07:52 PM
8-)
:lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 11:08:22 PM
Hi BTthanks for sharing your trip with us, the pics were a hoot.

Klaas you are truly an artist.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 11:08:28 PM
Hi BT, glad you made it back safely. I've had that issue before too but typically just recharging my wireless network list does the trick or even refreshing my wireless router as well.

Bean - excel sheets LOL  :lol: man am I tired of those  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:08:35 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!

Welcome Slogger to the Monkey Family

I'm a tad confused; we had been told she was at C&C's on Friday and then on Sunday. That they had stayed around the hotel Saturday night and that the bump was on Friday. Help.... and

Who was the altercation with?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:08:56 PM
Welcome Slogger...you don't happen to be Canadian, do you??  :lol:

Thank you, Klaas and Buckeye.

No, I'm from Pennsylvania.
The eastern part, i hope. We are not responsible for Medley...unlike Angie and Rob. :lol:

I'm nowhere near Medley--in location, or in spirit!   :lol:


  LOL  She is a hell of alot closer to Rob then to me..  :cool:

bullcrap... you're closer... I'm almost in the corner of the state...you are much closer...

 I thought you were closer?    :shock: :shock:  Thats it.. Im moving..  :lol:

 Just for shits and giggles.. gona look on mapquest from where I am to where she is.. and from where you are to where she is.
 You are probablt correct. I have no sense of direction.. sorry.  :-?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 28, 2007, 11:09:57 PM
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/new%20SM%20signs/607296001185120232-final.gif) Slogger

Welcome Slogger  :smt109

Destiny


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:10:21 PM
Broughton' FBI 302 states "On Saturday, May 28th....Natalee was escorted back to her room....by Kevin Brody"

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639

Nice find Buckeye! So Saturday could have been confused as the last night . . . haven't thought much about this before. Do we know that Joran was at C&C's on Saturday?? I know it has been mentioned.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 11:10:28 PM
8-)

Where the heck have you been...
I even pulled out the (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/robot3.gif) trying to "Tempt" you  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 11:10:38 PM
8-)

UhOh Robots is here. I'm not in trouble am i? He didn't read the beginning of the threat did he? :lol: :-?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:10:56 PM
I hope I haven't said this 3 times!! I've been trying to post but don't see it.  Angie, I sent you an email.

I SEE YOUR POST  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 28, 2007, 11:10:58 PM
Hi Monkeys,

I'm home from San Francisco, and whatever made my laptop work with the hotel wireless makes it not work here at home. I'm on hubby's computer briefly, but I'll only be here a second to say hello.

I haven't had a chance to read back and see what's been happening, but I guess that will have to wait for tomorrow. The quote stacks in the new setup are driving me crazy. I can't figure out who said what, and I think I'm to tired to try to work it out tonight, since I had to get up at 4:00 am today.

See you tomorrow if I can get my laptop fixed.





Glad to hear you are safely back home  8)
Hope you have let the sock monkeys out of their case before you head to bed.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:12:51 PM
Broughton' FBI 302 states "On Saturday, May 28th....Natalee was escorted back to her room....by Kevin Brody"

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639

Nice find Buckeye! So Saturday could have been confused as the last night . . . haven't thought much about this before. Do we know that Joran was at C&C's on Saturday?? I know it has been mentioned.

One of the 302s said he was seen with Francis and another girl on Saturday. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 28, 2007, 11:13:11 PM
None,

please apologize to little none for me... I should have welcomed her earlier but I didn't have enough coffee....

ROBOTS!!  glad you are finally here!

Nite BT!
Casa... you are here... I see you!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:13:33 PM
Broughton' FBI 302 states "On Saturday, May 28th....Natalee was escorted back to her room....by Kevin Brody"

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639

Nice find Buckeye! So Saturday could have been confused as the last night . . . haven't thought much about this before. Do we know that Joran was at C&C's on Saturday?? I know it has been mentioned.

Edited to add, do we know if Natalee and friends went to C&C's on Saturday night?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 28, 2007, 11:14:05 PM
Hi Monkeys,

I'm home from San Francisco, and whatever made my laptop work with the hotel wireless makes it not work here at home. I'm on hubby's computer briefly, but I'll only be here a second to say hello.

I haven't had a chance to read back and see what's been happening, but I guess that will have to wait for tomorrow. The quote stacks in the new setup are driving me crazy. I can't figure out who said what, and I think I'm to tired to try to work it out tonight, since I had to get up at 4:00 am today.

See you tomorrow if I can get my laptop fixed.





Glad to hear you are safely back home  8)
Hope you have let the sock monkeys out of their case before you head to bed.

I have tried to make two posts since the last one, and I keep getting kicked out. What's that about?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 28, 2007, 11:14:23 PM
OK... I learned that if you aren't even close to the word, spell check will NOT help... :smt102


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 28, 2007, 11:15:30 PM
WELCOME Slogger!

Klaas...does everyone get one of these when they try to post something?  Sometimes I have to hit the post button 7 or 8 times to get my mssg/reply on the forum.

The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Thank You
Destiny


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 11:15:32 PM
Broughton' FBI 302 states "On Saturday, May 28th....Natalee was escorted back to her room....by Kevin Brody"

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639

I read on the 28th (Saturday I think) .. escorted ... But from where.. ?
The hotel bar or someplace else...??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:15:36 PM
Broughton' FBI 302 states "On Saturday, May 28th....Natalee was escorted back to her room....by Kevin Brody"

http://www.scrux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=639

Nice find Buckeye! So Saturday could have been confused as the last night . . . haven't thought much about this before. Do we know that Joran was at C&C's on Saturday?? I know it has been mentioned.

Edited to add, do we know if Natalee and friends went to C&C's on Saturday night?

Not that I saw...but we only have a few of the 302s. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 28, 2007, 11:16:15 PM
This is a test to see if I can make a post without quoting someone else.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: little none on July 28, 2007, 11:16:32 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!


A belated welcome to Slogger and Little None!

Slogger, was there an altercation with GVC and Natalee/MB kids and another with Joran and MB kids? The GVC incident has gotten a lot of play but have heard very little about the one with Joran.


Thanks Dayhiker! I'm glad to finally be over here, everyone has been so welcoming! :D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 28, 2007, 11:16:45 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!

Welcome Slogger to the Monkey Family

I'm a tad confused; we had been told she was at C&C's on Friday and then on Sunday. That they had stayed around the hotel Saturday night and that the bump was on Friday. Help.... and

Who was the altercation with?


Thank you, BB and IBE.

It is confusing.  We heard the Natalee dancing information; and we heard there was an altercation between an MBer and another which was stopped by an MBer...was that Brian?

There was something else about Joran, outside CnC.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 28, 2007, 11:17:00 PM
Destiny -
we all get that... but I changed it in my preferences so I don't get that anymore... but i think I keeping missing stuff...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:17:18 PM
WELCOME Slogger!

Klaas...does everyone get one of these when they try to post something?  Sometimes I have to hit the post button 7 or 8 times to get my mssg/reply on the forum.

The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Thank You
Destiny

Hi Destiny! I've been receiving those messages as well.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:17:36 PM
OK... I learned that if you aren't even close to the word, spell check will NOT help... :smt102

Well then...how will that button possibly help Angie??  Thought that's why we ordered it!  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: casa on July 28, 2007, 11:17:48 PM
I hope I haven't said this 3 times!! I've been trying to post but don't see it.  Angie, I sent you an email.

I SEE YOUR POST  :lol:

I tried 3 times and I was afraid they would all pop up at the same time!!!   :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 28, 2007, 11:18:07 PM
This is a test to see if I can make a post without quoting someone else.

Okay - I guess I can. It kept kicking me out, timing out on me, etc.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 28, 2007, 11:18:38 PM
Hi Monkeys,

I'm home from San Francisco, and whatever made my laptop work with the hotel wireless makes it not work here at home. I'm on hubby's computer briefly, but I'll only be here a second to say hello.

I haven't had a chance to read back and see what's been happening, but I guess that will have to wait for tomorrow. The quote stacks in the new setup are driving me crazy. I can't figure out who said what, and I think I'm to tired to try to work it out tonight, since I had to get up at 4:00 am today.

See you tomorrow if I can get my laptop fixed.

Welcome back BT, tis nice to have you home!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 28, 2007, 11:18:44 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!


A belated welcome to Slogger and Little None!

Slogger, was there an altercation with GVC and Natalee/MB kids and another with Joran and MB kids? The GVC incident has gotten a lot of play but have heard very little about the one with Joran.


Thanks Dayhiker! I'm glad to finally be over here, everyone has been so welcoming! :D


What else would we be when we read your siggy line?   :-) :-)

Pats for Big Red


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:18:50 PM
WELCOME Slogger!

Klaas...does everyone get one of these when they try to post something?  Sometimes I have to hit the post button 7 or 8 times to get my mssg/reply on the forum.

The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Thank You
Destiny

If you make sure these boxes in your profile are checked you won't get that message any more.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/Profile2.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 28, 2007, 11:18:55 PM
Robots!  Have you cooked up a good excuse as to why you're so late showing up for the grand opening here?  We've been wondering where you were..... :smt018 :smt018


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 28, 2007, 11:19:38 PM
Do I have to hit preview before I hit post every time in order for the post to go through?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:19:57 PM
WELCOME Slogger!

Klaas...does everyone get one of these when they try to post something?  Sometimes I have to hit the post button 7 or 8 times to get my mssg/reply on the forum.

The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Thank You
Destiny

Look in the lounge...a few topics down with forum updates.  It explains the two check boxes you need to check under profile and preferences to get the page to go back to topic and also get rid of the red quote about other posts.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:20:10 PM
I hope I haven't said this 3 times!! I've been trying to post but don't see it.  Angie, I sent you an email.

I SEE YOUR POST  :lol:

  Hi Casa.. I am sorry .. I got your email a bit ago and replyed.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 28, 2007, 11:20:42 PM
This is a test to see if I can make a post without quoting someone else.
Glad you made it back safely ~ loved the pics in the lounge ~ I figure toothbrush time is around the corner.  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: little none on July 28, 2007, 11:20:44 PM
None,

please apologize to little none for me... I should have welcomed her earlier but I didn't have enough coffee....

ROBOTS!!  glad you are finally here!

Nite BT!
Casa... you are here... I see you!

No apologies needed! You can't be held accountable for anything you say or do before your first cup of coffee of the day, well at least that's the rule we go by! ;)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:21:09 PM
WELCOME Slogger!

Klaas...does everyone get one of these when they try to post something?  Sometimes I have to hit the post button 7 or 8 times to get my mssg/reply on the forum.

The following error or errors occurred while posting this message:
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Thank You
Destiny

If you make sure these boxes in your profile are checked you won't get that message any more.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/Profile2.jpg)

Thank you Klass!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:21:59 PM
BT Glad you are home safely!

Do you get kicked off the whole board and have to long in or just kicked back to the first page? If it's the last reason you have to go into your profile.

I'm sure Klaas will post it again but what is needed is where are you???? :D

Love ot the Sock Monkeys. Hope you and they don't have jet lag.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:23:07 PM
or...wait until Klaas reposts the picture of the boxes  :lol: :lol:

By the way, if you are using the Quick Reply...you only get the smileys+ if you hit Preview before posting.  ;)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:23:17 PM
This is a test to see if I can make a post without quoting someone else.

BT welcome back home.

I am trying to get used to the quotes yet myself..  lol
 And look at my AVI.. I am a dwarf now just like you..    :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: little none on July 28, 2007, 11:23:26 PM
Thank you, oldfart.  Good to meet you.

Thank you, *******; I like your bfn posts, too.

Natalee was escorted back to her room by one of the male MBers on Friday.  Two things seemed to have happened. (1) was the alleged bump incident; (2) was an altercation outside.

Thank you:  Shadow, None, Angie, Rob, Snoopy...and everybody!
Whatta a reception crew!!


A belated welcome to Slogger and Little None!

Slogger, was there an altercation with GVC and Natalee/MB kids and another with Joran and MB kids? The GVC incident has gotten a lot of play but have heard very little about the one with Joran.


Thanks Dayhiker! I'm glad to finally be over here, everyone has been so welcoming! :D


What else would we be when we read your siggy line?   :-) :-)

Pats for Big Red

Bwahahaha! Big Red loves the pats! He's my pretend guard dog, but don't tell the bad guys!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:24:09 PM
Do I have to hit preview before I hit post every time in order for the post to go through?
No, you shouldn't have to preview first.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 11:25:06 PM
The WorldJournier timeline just states "they went out to bars" , not specifically C+C's.

+++++++++

Broughton and Holloway were assigned the same hotel room at the Holiday Inn. The daily routine for Broughton and Holloway was to get an alcohol drink and go to the ocean around 10:00 AM in the morning. At around 5:00 PM they would return to their room for naps. At 6:00PM Broughton and Holloway would get ready to go out to get dinner. After dinner Broughton and Holloway would go out to Bars. Saturday, May 28, 2005, Holloway became very intoxicated and eventually had to be escorted back to her room by (Kevin Broday?).


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 11:25:26 PM
OF-

Shame on you if you were a hustler  :lol: but I don't think you made girls disappear?

I grew up one hour from the beach, by the time I was 16 I had met more than one hustler and most just wanted a girl to take on the beach at night to have their way with her. Knowing so much about Joran's "game" via his book, I find it hard to believe he would be satisfied with all of his porn internet activity, in just a roll with a babe on the beach. His psyche needed much more than that, evidenced by his incapability to even curb his pathological lies. Again all traits of a sociopath.

Nones
All I"m saying  (from what I can remember) at that age ... boy / girls wanted to meet each other period.  INTENT on what followed is umm ???

I can see 6-18 yr olds fibbing/lying about stuff to meet people for what ever reason..
But when (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/e60fa86b.gif)  all of my buddies would NOT have been lying..
BTW  we never had someone 5yrs older being a taix service either... Buy something things.. hang around a little bit yes.. But not a TAXI service.

I still do not beleive the people of Aruba have access to the stuff we do.. WHY IS THAT ?

I know I'm rambling...  I / We know what type of person Joran is.. but do the people of Aruba??



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 28, 2007, 11:25:42 PM
None,

please apologize to little none for me... I should have welcomed her earlier but I didn't have enough coffee....

ROBOTS!!  glad you are finally here!

Nite BT!
Casa... you are here... I see you!

No apologies needed! You can't be held accountable for anything you say or do before your first cup of coffee of the day, well at least that's the rule we go by! ;)
Hi Little None :smt006


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 28, 2007, 11:25:53 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:25:57 PM
welcome little none!  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: A's Fever on July 28, 2007, 11:27:04 PM
Welcome Slogger, Little None, NYC and all new monkeys!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:27:17 PM
The WorldJournier timeline just states "they went out to bars" , not specifically C+C's.

+++++++++

Broughton and Holloway were assigned the same hotel room at the Holiday Inn. The daily routine for Broughton and Holloway was to get an alcohol drink and go to the ocean around 10:00 AM in the morning. At around 5:00 PM they would return to their room for naps. At 6:00PM Broughton and Holloway would get ready to go out to get dinner. After dinner Broughton and Holloway would go out to Bars. Saturday, May 28, 2005, Holloway became very intoxicated and eventually had to be escorted back to her room by (Kevin Broday?).

Wonder what bars???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:27:45 PM
or...wait until Klaas reposts the picture of the boxes  :lol: :lol:

By the way, if you are using the Quick Reply...you only get the smileys+ if you hit Preview before posting.  ;)

1. Spelling checker and my brain sure don't catch a work like "long" when I meant "logged" and
2. Seriously, is there a Quick Reply?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:27:45 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

WELCOME! NYC Lover!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:28:09 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

welcome NYC_lover


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: little none on July 28, 2007, 11:28:10 PM
None,

please apologize to little none for me... I should have welcomed her earlier but I didn't have enough coffee....

ROBOTS!!  glad you are finally here!

Nite BT!
Casa... you are here... I see you!

No apologies needed! You can't be held accountable for anything you say or do before your first cup of coffee of the day, well at least that's the rule we go by! ;)
Hi Little None :smt006

Squeeeeee!!! ::runs over to give San a big hug::



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 28, 2007, 11:28:29 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

Hi NYC and Welcome.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:29:05 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

Welcome.  Glad you could get in.  It's a good time to be "new" because we're all learning the ropes.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 28, 2007, 11:30:09 PM
None,

please apologize to little none for me... I should have welcomed her earlier but I didn't have enough coffee....

ROBOTS!!  glad you are finally here!

Nite BT!
Casa... you are here... I see you!

No apologies needed! You can't be held accountable for anything you say or do before your first cup of coffee of the day, well at least that's the rule we go by! ;)
Hi Little None :smt006

Squeeeeee!!! ::runs over to give San a big hug::



 :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:31:15 PM
or...wait until Klaas reposts the picture of the boxes  :lol: :lol:

By the way, if you are using the Quick Reply...you only get the smileys+ if you hit Preview before posting.  ;)

1. Spelling checker and my brain sure don't catch a work like "long" when I meant "logged" and
2. Seriously, is there a Quick Reply?

2. yes. Set up Quick reply in your profile.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:31:27 PM
OK... I learned that if you aren't even close to the word, spell check will NOT help... :smt102

Well then...how will that button possibly help Angie??  Thought that's why we ordered it!  :lol: :lol:

 I have not tryed spell check yet..  trying to get used to the other stuff first.. I can spell.. its the typing I mess up..  :cool:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/28/2007
Post by: casa on July 28, 2007, 11:31:48 PM
I hope I haven't said this 3 times!! I've been trying to post but don't see it.  Angie, I sent you an email.

I SEE YOUR POST  :lol:

  Hi Casa.. I am sorry .. I got your email a bit ago and replyed.
Not your fault, Angie.  I just got your reply.  I was just tying to post and I had to keep trying.  I think it was because others were posting and it kept saying that others had posted I might want to review my post.  


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MisGivings on July 28, 2007, 11:32:50 PM
This is a test to see if I can make a post without quoting someone else.


Hey, Angie dear, MisGivings here.
I wanted to let you know that I drink Rolling Rock.
I am also curious as to how you were able to smell skunk piss... :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:33:00 PM
Welcome NYC_lover

Dugga, can it be programmed for just a tad of indents or spaces into the right, as before, so we can tell the difference in the quotes? 

Good night all... my brain and eyes are tired. Love ya and Keep up the Good Works!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 11:33:21 PM
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/new%20SM%20signs/607296001185120232-final.gif) NYC Lover

HI CASA


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 28, 2007, 11:34:01 PM
Destiny -
we all get that... but I changed it in my preferences so I don't get that anymore... but i think I keeping missing stuff...

Thanks Shoe Fanatic  :-P  I'll try that

Destiny  with over 170 pairs of shoes  :cool:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:34:30 PM
Welcome NYC_lover

Dugga, can it be programmed for just a tad of indents or spaces into the right, as before, so we can tell the difference in the quotes? 

Good night all... my brain and eyes are tired. Love ya and Keep up the Good Works!

Good night IBE


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 28, 2007, 11:34:30 PM
Goodnite gang, keep the faith.  See ya down the road.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:34:35 PM
If I use "Quick Reply" will it make my brain faster? :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 28, 2007, 11:34:51 PM
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/new%20SM%20signs/607296001185120232-final.gif) NYC Lover

HI CASA

Hi None!!! How are ya!?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 11:34:53 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

HI NYC_lover
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/wave2.gif)
Glad You are here and just jump on in...
We do not bite.... Honest :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:35:00 PM
OK... I learned that if you aren't even close to the word, spell check will NOT help... :smt102

Well then...how will that button possibly help Angie??  Thought that's why we ordered it!  :lol: :lol:

 I have not tryed spell check yet..  trying to get used to the other stuff first.. I can spell.. its the typing I mess up..  :cool:

I know.  I was just kidding.  You're one of my very favorite posters.    :wink:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 28, 2007, 11:35:04 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

Welcome NYC_lover. 

Did all the new monkeys get their welcome basket of bananas?
Have you been told you have to pick up your peels and do not throw them at other monkeys   :smt018


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:35:49 PM
Goodnite gang, keep the faith.  See ya down the road.

see ya Indy


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:37:00 PM
Thanks Shadow

I love your lake. Wish I had an enlarged pict and I'd put it outside my kitchen window!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 28, 2007, 11:37:23 PM
Destiny -
we all get that... but I changed it in my preferences so I don't get that anymore... but i think I keeping missing stuff...

Thanks Shoe Fanatic  :-P  I'll try that

Destiny  with over 170 pairs of shoes  :cool:
that will be the last site to up.... I am excited about the changes... most of what I post I can't afford... but they are gorgeous!! :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 11:38:36 PM
 :smt006  howdy NYC


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 11:39:20 PM
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/new%20SM%20signs/607296001185120232-final.gif) NYC Lover

HI CASA

Hi None!!! How are ya!?

I'm good casa, how are you and your girls?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 28, 2007, 11:39:37 PM
Dang... I posted to NYC...

WELCOME... and you know what?  I forgot to hit submit :oops:

so WELCOME...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 28, 2007, 11:39:52 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:40:16 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

  Welcome to you NYC Lover   :-P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 11:41:28 PM
Welcome to all the newbies out there.  Glad you are here. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 28, 2007, 11:41:43 PM
Thanks Shadow

I love your lake. Wish I had an enlarged pict and I'd put it outside my kitchen window!!

Thanks IBE!  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 11:41:44 PM
Good Night IBE and Indy


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 28, 2007, 11:41:49 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it




why???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 11:42:58 PM


It's good to see you MisGivings.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 28, 2007, 11:43:38 PM
Hello everbody,
thank you all, for the warm welcome.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 28, 2007, 11:43:59 PM
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/new%20SM%20signs/607296001185120232-final.gif) NYC Lover

HI CASA

Hi None!!! How are ya!?

I'm good casa, how are you and your girls?

We are all doing great!  None of them came home this weekend but I have talked to all three today! 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: thecuz on July 28, 2007, 11:44:03 PM
hey everybody....i think i made it!! taken me 40 minutes just to think that i am ready to post :grin: :smt024


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 11:44:10 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it


Is it harder to sneak in to a new cage... or what ???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:44:14 PM
Well, wasn't gone long :lol: :lol:

Had to come back in because of Robots!  Is there a Thread or can one be set up for our kudos and constructive suggestions?   Are those the PC words for complaints? :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 28, 2007, 11:44:53 PM
hey everybody....i think i made it!! taken me 40 minutes just to think that i am ready to post :grin: :smt024

Hey, cuz!  I have really been struggling myself!! :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:45:01 PM
Well, wasn't gone long :lol: :lol:

Had to come back in because of Robots!  Is there a Thread or can one be set up for our kudos and constructive suggestions?   Are those the PC words for complaints? :lol: :lol:

I'll set one up in the Monkey Lounge!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 11:45:11 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it



robots  :lol: :lol:

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/new%20SM%20signs/514322001185118566-final.gif) here's your sign, maybe that will help


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 11:45:15 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it



I am not real keen on it either, but I hope it grows on me.  I don't like the format at BFN. That is why I came here.  (I would insert a rolling eye smiley here, but it's in the More section)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 28, 2007, 11:45:32 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it




why???

i find it slow, and i have super high speed access. i find it confusing, im not into
rolling billboards, all the bells and whistles, etc etc

i will put up with it because the cause is good. but it seems too complicated
i have to hit submit 3-4 times or hit preview first then i still dont know if it me message
goes thru..




Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:45:40 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it



robots

Do you have a particular issue??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 28, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
hey everybody....i think i made it!! taken me 40 minutes just to think that i am ready to post :grin: :smt024

Hello Cuz.  Good to see you.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 28, 2007, 11:46:38 PM
Good Night IBE and Indy

Nite Snoop, thanks for the AK. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 28, 2007, 11:46:53 PM
Dang... I posted to NYC...

WELCOME... and you know what?  I forgot to hit submit :oops:

so WELCOME...

Sorry, I don't know, what u meant with, 'and you know what'?
Do u mean know what about the Holloway case?
When u ask that, I following this case, yes


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: TNMOM on July 28, 2007, 11:47:06 PM
Welcome to all the newbies out there.  Glad you are here. 

I am not new, but been away from posting for some time.  I have kept up with the case. And with emails to Mrs. Red.

Not much time to stick around.  Wanted to say this place looks Great...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 28, 2007, 11:47:32 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it



robots  :lol: :lol:

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/GIFS/smilies/new%20SM%20signs/514322001185118566-final.gif) here's your sign, maybe that will help

thank you
i feel a little better  8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 11:48:02 PM
Well you know how robots is....he hates restaurants too, and he only eats like once every 2 or 3 days, and he sometimes like to go outside and burn plastic lawn furniture, or hurt himself on fences around the yard..... :eye: :smt044


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:48:27 PM
Welcome to all the newbies out there.  Glad you are here. 

I am not new, but been away from posting for some time.  I have kept up with the case. And with emails to Mrs. Red.

Not much time to stick around.  Wanted to say this place looks Great...


Good to see you TNMOM!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 11:48:47 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it



I am not real keen on it either, but I hope it grows on me.  I don't like the format at BFN. That is why I came here.  (I would insert a rolling eye smiley here, but it's in the More section)

Lala's  :lol: :lol: :cyclopsani: but now we have a pulsating cyclops  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 28, 2007, 11:49:14 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it



What in particular do you hate about the board robots.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 28, 2007, 11:49:24 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

Welcome Little None  cute ducky  :flower:

and Welcome NYC_lover   ;-)

Destiny


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: thecuz on July 28, 2007, 11:49:47 PM
hey lala..
hey everybody....i think i made it!! taken me 40 minutes just to think that i am ready to post :grin: :smt024

Hello Cuz.  Good to see you.
.
hey everybody....i think i made it!! taken me 40 minutes just to think that i am ready to post :grin: :smt024

Hello Cuz.  Good to see you.



hey lala!!! good to see you..pencils and all!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 28, 2007, 11:49:56 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

HI NYC_lover
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/wave2.gif)
Glad You are here and just jump on in...
We do not bite.... Honest :-D

Ok, thank you. lol.... This is a good site and I believe u. :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 28, 2007, 11:50:17 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it



robots

Do you have a particular issue??

its probably just me

i find it slow.... and i keep getting this message in RED that says a new message has been posted and you might want to go do something,,, :-x


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:50:19 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it




 Hi Robots..   You';; get used to it sweety.
Waving my bunny ear as you..  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 28, 2007, 11:50:58 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

Welcome Little None  cute ducky :flower:

and Welcome NYC_lover   ;-)

Destiny


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 28, 2007, 11:50:59 PM
Hey The CUZ is here  8)

Welcome back TNMom !


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 28, 2007, 11:51:58 PM
Well you know how robots is....he hates restaurants too, and he only eats like once every 2 or 3 days, and he sometimes like to go outside and burn plastic lawn furniture, or hurt himself on fences around the yard..... :eye: :smt044


see, thats correct  8)
dont pay any attention to me... 8-) :lol:

here is the message i get whenever i hit submit
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: thecuz on July 28, 2007, 11:52:30 PM
how come when i quoted from lala's post...it did a double post? i went to the bottom? any suggestions? :(


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: little none on July 28, 2007, 11:52:52 PM
Hello everbody,
I am new here.

Welcome Little None  cute ducky  :flower:

and Welcome NYC_lover   ;-)

Destiny

Thank you! I like your avi too, I own, I mean am owned by some kitties :)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 28, 2007, 11:53:24 PM
hey everybody....i think i made it!! taken me 40 minutes just to think that i am ready to post :grin: :smt024

CUZ~!!   Great to see you sweety!!!!!   :-P :-P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 28, 2007, 11:53:56 PM
Well you know how robots is....he hates restaurants too, and he only eats like once every 2 or 3 days, and he sometimes like to go outside and burn plastic lawn furniture, or hurt himself on fences around the yard..... :eye: :smt044

except for the last two things.. Robots and I are a lot alike. If juice counts for not eating??? I know you are teasing him :lol: :lol: I only go to one restaurant and it is one where I know the cooks and can see the kitchen!

but the Southern friends here have me buying grits :lol: :lol:

I find the quotes are hard to read and keep track of. I love the spelling check.. it's just I use the wrong words in the wrong place but spelled correctly.

When the chat feature is put up; please put directions. I have never chatted before.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 28, 2007, 11:54:22 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it




 Hi Robots..   You';; get used to it sweety.
Waving my bunny ear as you..  :lol:




 :P :lol:

i will SLOG around on the front page.... is that up and running yet ??

i hope so. i feel sea  :cool:sick in here


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 11:54:38 PM
I hope this comes out 1/2 right  --- Just something I posted earlier
BUMP..
Dugga
You have done a GREAT job
Hope you have gotten at least a nap...
It is hard to let go of the old and embrace the new...
Mrs.  posted this link in my  party-thead (that was a dud...oh well)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTo7BXlqcHs


As a former boss said..
 
There is a new train leaving
You can stay at the station and be left behind
Get on board and go for the ride and we will see where we end up at
Stand in front of it  (but it is leaving)

I do not mind too much being on the cow-catcher
(even when I lock myself out )
Thanks again
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Same boss also said " Never get in a pissin (sorry) match with a Skunk"

One very smart lady.. and one hell of a boss ... :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: thecuz on July 28, 2007, 11:55:12 PM
 :smt038 hey angie.....welcome little none!!!! glad to have you on board!!! :smt054


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 28, 2007, 11:55:36 PM
Well you know how robots is....he hates restaurants too, and he only eats like once every 2 or 3 days, and he sometimes like to go outside and burn plastic lawn furniture, or hurt himself on fences around the yard..... :eye: :smt044


see, thats correct  8)
dont pay any attention to me... 8-) :lol:

here is the message i get whenever i hit submit
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.


robots
As soon as I post this, Klaas will post the directions.  In your profile, go to the section with check boxes and check to return to topic and not have the red stuff show up.  There is a picture of it one or two pages back.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 28, 2007, 11:55:40 PM


Good to see casa, cuz, TNMom, and all ya'll.  See ya tomm.

Robots....It'll be alright.  Hang in there man.  We need you.

 :smt006 :smt039   :smt048   :smt015 

Man I love these smiley thingys.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Red on July 28, 2007, 11:55:40 PM
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Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 28, 2007, 11:55:47 PM
Well you know how robots is....he hates restaurants too, and he only eats like once every 2 or 3 days, and he sometimes like to go outside and burn plastic lawn furniture, or hurt himself on fences around the yard..... :eye: :smt044


see, thats correct  8)
dont pay any attention to me... 8-) :lol:

here is the message i get whenever i hit submit
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.


Robots go to your profile and change in preferences to this and you won't get that message

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/Profile2.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: little none on July 28, 2007, 11:55:50 PM
:smt038 hey angie.....welcome little none!!!! glad to have you on board!!! :smt054

Thanks! I am excited to be here!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: TNMOM on July 28, 2007, 11:55:54 PM
Thanks all for the welcome back, I have been here all along, reading the highlights anyway.....

I am so grateful all of you haven't given up and keep chr=urning away looking for answers in this case.  One day the world will have answers, and believe me, there are many out in this world that still wonder about Natalee and Aruba.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 28, 2007, 11:56:04 PM
Sleep time, have a goodnight all!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 28, 2007, 11:56:46 PM


Good to see casa, cuz, TNMom, and all ya'll.  See ya tomm.

Robots....It'll be alright.  Hang in there man.  We need you.

 :smt006 :smt039   :smt048   :smt015 

Man I love these smiley thingys.

Hey Snoopy!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 28, 2007, 11:56:54 PM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it




why???

i find it slow, and i have super high speed access. i find it confusing, im not into
rolling billboards, all the bells and whistles, etc etc

i will put up with it because the cause is good. but it seems too complicated
i have to hit submit 3-4 times or hit preview first then i still dont know if it me message
goes thru..

I look at it this way my old tin friend.  I don't like change either but all in all it's a very nice upgrade, granted it will take some getting used to, but I have other issues with you - I'm starting to want my farm back.   Give me something the hold onto with the KLPD nailing these pervs or let it go.
I need your Positive Posts, just to keep me hangning on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :-P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:56:55 PM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:57:20 PM
Sleep time, have a goodnight all!!

Nite NYC


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MisGivings on July 28, 2007, 11:57:40 PM
Well you know how robots is....he hates restaurants too, and he only eats like once every 2 or 3 days, and he sometimes like to go outside and burn plastic lawn furniture, or hurt himself on fences around the yard..... :eye: :smt044


see, thats correct  8)
dont pay any attention to me... 8-) :lol:

here is the message i get whenever i hit submit
Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.


Ok, here's how to solve that annoying message;
Go to (your) Profile and click on where it says 'Look and Layout Preferences' and check the box that says;
  Don't warn on new replies made while posting.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: TNMOM on July 28, 2007, 11:58:12 PM
Hi Red.

Ask Mrs. Red if she's ready to go to the treehouse for lunch soon?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 28, 2007, 11:58:26 PM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P


ROBOTS I fixed it for you  
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Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MisGivings on July 28, 2007, 11:58:28 PM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P

Slow but sure I is, eh Klaas? :???:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 28, 2007, 11:59:17 PM
Scared Monkey.com Will be down for Some Maintenance … NEW SCARED MONKEYS.COM on the way

Please note that Scared Monkeys.com will be down for a short period of time tonight. We are doing some maintenance and the NEW & IMPROVED Scared Monkeys.com will be back in its place.

The site will be down for about 2–3 hours. Look for the new Scared Monkeys.


RED..
thanks... and just to make sure...  is that the Front Page that Robots want to mill around on ..???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 28, 2007, 11:59:36 PM
Well you know how robots is....he hates restaurants too, and he only eats like once every 2 or 3 days, and he sometimes like to go outside and burn plastic lawn furniture, or hurt himself on fences around the yard..... :eye: :smt044

except for the last two things.. Robots and I are a lot alike. If juice counts for not eating??? I know you are teasing him :lol: :lol: I only go to one restaurant and it is one where I know the cooks and can see the kitchen!

but the Southern friends here have me buying grits :lol: :lol:

I find the quotes are hard to read and keep track of. I love the spelling check.. it's just I use the wrong words in the wrong place but spelled correctly.

When the chat feature is put up; please put directions. I have never chatted before.

im going to slog over to the front page, if i can find it and if it is running...
i have had to hit POST 5-6 times and i cant take it... :-x

i have the attention span of about 3-4 seconds at the MOST

i had to get my own internet access because i need SPEEEEEEEED

i will be back...

i hope everyone likes it.. and it is probably just me....because im sure there were many hours put into it...  i will give it a couple days maybe i will love it

but i doubt it


 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:00:03 AM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P

Slow but sure I is, eh Klaas? :???:

Good to see you MisGivings!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 29, 2007, 12:00:08 AM
Nite NYC_Lover


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:00:55 AM
Dang... I posted to NYC...

WELCOME... and you know what?  I forgot to hit submit :oops:

so WELCOME...

Sorry, I don't know, what u meant with, 'and you know what'?
Do u mean know what about the Holloway case?
When u ask that, I following this case, yes


I just meant that in a general term.... I didn't mean anything else... sorry I have been posting in other threads...


Robots - by now somebody prolly already told you how to fix those issues... by the check mark boxes...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 12:01:19 AM
Thanks all for the welcome back, I have been here all along, reading the highlights anyway.....

I am so grateful all of you haven't given up and keep chr=urning away looking for answers in this case.  One day the world will have answers, and believe me, there are many out in this world that still wonder about Natalee and Aruba.


Hi TNMOM...

Sorry I''m behind on hello's tonight


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 12:01:27 AM
Scared Monkey.com Will be down for Some Maintenance … NEW SCARED MONKEYS.COM on the way

Please note that Scared Monkeys.com will be down for a short period of time tonight. We are doing some maintenance and the NEW & IMPROVED Scared Monkeys.com will be back in its place.

The site will be down for about 2–3 hours. Look for the new Scared Monkeys.


RED..
thanks... and just to make sure...  is that the Front Page that Robots want to mill around on ..???


I was thinking the same thig....this is not going to be pretty...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 12:01:36 AM
i may be in the minority, and i mean no offense to Dugga and Red and to anyone else that put in all kinds of time in this NEW board,

i knew i wouldnt like it and it is now confirmed

i hate it




 Hi Robots..   You';; get used to it sweety.
Waving my bunny ear as you..  :lol:




 :P :lol:

i will SLOG around on the front page.... is that up and running yet ??

i hope so. i feel sea  :cool:sick in here

 I dunno.. I am trying to get used to this  first..  lol
MRS RED,, did you get the email back?  LOL   What yah think?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 29, 2007, 12:02:13 AM
ooohhh...  i like that better ..thank you klass

ROB,,  dont you worry the FARM is SAFE


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:02:54 AM
I thought we were getting PM back?  Did you guys get that feature and I didn't?   :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MisGivings on July 29, 2007, 12:02:56 AM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P

Slow but sure I is, eh Klaas? :???:

Good to see you MisGivings!

http://THANKS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: robots on July 29, 2007, 12:03:47 AM
Scared Monkey.com Will be down for Some Maintenance … NEW SCARED MONKEYS.COM on the way

Please note that Scared Monkeys.com will be down for a short period of time tonight. We are doing some maintenance and the NEW & IMPROVED Scared Monkeys.com will be back in its place.

The site will be down for about 2–3 hours. Look for the new Scared Monkeys.


RED..
thanks... and just to make sure...  is that the Front Page that Robots want to mill around on ..???


I was thinking the same thig....this is not going to be pretty...

boy, that was horrible timing on my part  :x

no slogging on the front page for me ... for 3 hours  :-x


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 29, 2007, 12:03:57 AM
ooohhh...  i like that better ..thank you klass

ROB,,  dont you worry the FARM is SAFE


See things are better already!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:04:14 AM
Oh, and where is the edit button?  I just knew Dugga would let us have that back. (Insert rolling eye smiley here)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 12:04:43 AM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/437fd399.gif)  OMG... you FIXED   Robots  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/437fd399.gif)

Bad OldFart bad


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:04:49 AM
I thought we were getting PM back?  Did you guys get that feature and I didn't?   :shock:

I don't think the PM feature is completely up and running yet.  If you look up near your avatar you will see a little icon there for PM though.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MisGivings on July 29, 2007, 12:05:06 AM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P

Slow but sure I is, eh Klaas? :???:

Good to see you MisGivings!

http://THANKS


hmmm, what's wrong with this picture???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:05:17 AM
Thanks all for the welcome back, I have been here all along, reading the highlights anyway.....

I am so grateful all of you haven't given up and keep chr=urning away looking for answers in this case.  One day the world will have answers, and believe me, there are many out in this world that still wonder about Natalee and Aruba.

TNMOM...hey!  I was just posting in other threads... how are you??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:05:54 AM
Oh, and where is the edit button?  I just knew Dugga would let us have that back. (Insert rolling eye smiley here)

No edit button for now.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:06:33 AM
I thought we were getting PM back?  Did you guys get that feature and I didn't?   :shock:

I don't think the PM feature is completely up and running yet.  If you look up near your avatar you will see a little icon there for PM though.

Oh really?  Where?  I don't see anything but a star.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 12:06:58 AM
I thought we were getting PM back?  Did you guys get that feature and I didn't?   :shock:

Shhhh  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/97bc6d72.gif) should we tell her


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:07:00 AM
Welcome back TNMom! :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 29, 2007, 12:07:05 AM
Tough nut to crack


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:07:28 AM
I thought we were getting PM back?  Did you guys get that feature and I didn't?   :shock:

I don't think the PM feature is completely up and running yet.  If you look up near your avatar you will see a little icon there for PM though.

Oh really?  Where?  I don't see anything but a star.

Do you see anything below your name where the ENVELOPE used to be for email?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:09:01 AM
I thought we were getting PM back?  Did you guys get that feature and I didn't?   :shock:

Shhhh  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/97bc6d72.gif) should we tell her

Oh I know you laugh behind my back when I tango...I know. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 29, 2007, 12:09:18 AM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P

Slow but sure I is, eh Klaas? :???:

Good to see you MisGivings!

http://THANKS


hmmm, what's wrong with this picture???

I thought it must have been a polar bear in a snow storm  :lol:

Nice to see you posting again MisGivings


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:09:18 AM
TNMOM... treehouse for sure!!!  email me...

Ang... I got all lost in the music thread posting like a fool, y'all created a monster once I figured out the you tube thing!!! going to read right now...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:09:44 AM
I thought we were getting PM back?  Did you guys get that feature and I didn't?   :shock:

I don't think the PM feature is completely up and running yet.  If you look up near your avatar you will see a little icon there for PM though.

Oh really?  Where?  I don't see anything but a star.

Yep.  A little person.

Do you see anything below your name where the ENVELOPE used to be for email?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Red on July 29, 2007, 12:10:30 AM
Thanks all for the welcome back, I have been here all along, reading the highlights anyway.....

I am so grateful all of you haven't given up and keep chr=urning away looking for answers in this case.  One day the world will have answers, and believe me, there are many out in this world that still wonder about Natalee and Aruba.

Hey TN MOM, Glad to see ya.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:11:20 AM
I thought we were getting PM back?  Did you guys get that feature and I didn't?   :shock:

I don't think the PM feature is completely up and running yet.  If you look up near your avatar you will see a little icon there for PM though.

Oh really?  Where?  I don't see anything but a star.

Yep.  A little person.

Do you see anything below your name where the ENVELOPE used to be for email?

Well I screwed that up...yes, a little person that takes me to my profile.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Red on July 29, 2007, 12:12:20 AM
Scared Monkey.com Will be down for Some Maintenance … NEW SCARED MONKEYS.COM on the way

Please note that Scared Monkeys.com will be down for a short period of time tonight. We are doing some maintenance and the NEW & IMPROVED Scared Monkeys.com will be back in its place.

The site will be down for about 2–3 hours. Look for the new Scared Monkeys.


RED..
thanks... and just to make sure...  is that the Front Page that Robots want to mill around on ..???


I was thinking the same thig....this is not going to be pretty...

boy, that was horrible timing on my part  :x

no slogging on the front page for me ... for 3 hours  :-x


Sorry Robots ... That's what the timer has been for. The weekend and later is the only time we can do this. Trying to do one site at a time so not too affect everything at once.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 12:13:08 AM
TNMOM... treehouse for sure!!!  email me...

Ang... I got all lost in the music thread posting like a fool, y'all created a monster once I figured out the you tube thing!!! going to read right now...

  ROFL    :grin: :grin: You love it   8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: TNMOM on July 29, 2007, 12:14:05 AM
Great been out with the local firefighters day, ended with fireworks....As dry as it is hope they didn't start fires.
Ready for the treehouse ?  I am...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: bleachedblack on July 29, 2007, 12:14:18 AM
Robots I posted a song for you to cheer you up in the lounge music thread. :P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mishy on July 29, 2007, 12:14:42 AM
hey monkeys!! I've been pressing my nose against the glass all day while on my Mac, and I switch to the PC and http://viola  :-P Here I am!!!

I see little none has joined us  :lol: :flower: :smt026 :smt006 :cheers: :smt041


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 12:14:55 AM


I thought it must have been a polar bear in a snow storm  :lol:

Nice to see you posting again MisGivings

 ROFL  Tibro.. I hope I cut correctly.. MIS nice to see you and TN mom..
 I


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 12:15:00 AM
ROBOTS - I just went into your profile and fixed it so you don't get that message any more.  :-P

Slow but sure I is, eh Klaas? :???:

Good to see you MisGivings!

http://THANKS


hmmm, what's wrong with this picture???

I thought it must have been a polar bear in a snow storm  :lol:

Nice to see you posting again MisGivings

WE need directions on reducing the Qutoe Stack
The Polar Bear in a Snow Storm  pic apppears to be a flash player item that is not working.. I KNOW NOTHING about Flash... but it more than just a white quare pic.. :-?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:15:01 AM
OK... ANG and I decided that this will be the new welcome to the cage....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ysFhDfGwbys&mode=related&search=

however, I will warn you that it could be a bit much for some.... :shock: 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Red on July 29, 2007, 12:15:25 AM
Oh, and where is the edit button?  I just knew Dugga would let us have that back. (Insert rolling eye smiley here)

No edit button for now.

Who needs EDIT when we have spell check.  :study:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:15:25 AM
Just curious . . . is there some other Natalee case discussion going on in another thread?? Doesn't seem to be much activity here. Guess everyone is getting used to the new format??  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 12:16:31 AM
I see we have some new members :) Whats the odds of gettin some Arubans in here? Would be nice to have a couple of them in here for some honest discussions.Seems like that hasnt been done in quite awhile..MO


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:16:57 AM
Great been out with the local firefighters day, ended with fireworks....As dry as it is hope they didn't start fires.
Ready for the treehouse ?  I am...

most definately... just shoot me an email.... LOL....


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:18:33 AM
Hey I just found me a new toy.  This new forum may not be so bad afterall.

HUGS TO NEMO   HUGS TO NEMO


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 12:19:54 AM
OK... ANG and I decided that this will be the new welcome to the cage....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ysFhDfGwbys&mode=related&search=

however, I will warn you that it could be a bit much for some.... :shock: 

  ROFL  :lol: :lol: :lol:
 You read my mind Mrs Red   8)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:21:38 AM
ANg...I hope I don't get banned.. :shock:

but it does match the new decor!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 29, 2007, 12:23:03 AM
Well you know how robots is....he hates restaurants too, and he only eats like once every 2 or 3 days, and he sometimes like to go outside and burn plastic lawn furniture, or hurt himself on fences around the yard..... :eye: :smt044

You Leave MY ROBOTS alone I  :smt055 him

Smoochies Robots.....here's a new can of WD-40 for Ya

Destiny  :-P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 12:23:36 AM
I see Mishy out there..Can you post??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 12:24:18 AM
Oh, and where is the edit button?  I just knew Dugga would let us have that back. (Insert rolling eye smiley here)

No edit button for now.

Who needs EDIT when we have spell check.  :study:

Thanks RED for the spell check...(I have to remember it is there)

Ummm ahh any chance for more bells later on ... Like a  dictionary (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/search2.gif) or a grammer checker (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/search1.gif)
Sorry but as G-Maw used to say "You do not know what the answer will be unless you ask the question "

Thanks again for allowing us to be here


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:24:30 AM
SHADOW - I think everyone is still trying to get used to stuff.  Tomorrow things will settle back down.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 12:26:12 AM
ANg...I hope I don't get banned.. :shock:

but it does match the new decor!!!

  LMAO  You wont get banned..   8-)   I might though   :shock:
 Heck the song fits..   8-) 8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:27:10 AM
SHADOW - I think everyone is still trying to get used to stuff.  Tomorrow things will settle back down.

Thanks Klass, appreciate your response.  :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:27:48 AM
ANg...I hope I don't get banned.. :shock:

but it does match the new decor!!!

  LMAO  You wont get banned..   8-)   I might though   :shock:
 Heck the song fits..   8-) 8-)

I just hope everyone likes Axle....  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 12:28:25 AM
hey monkeys!! I've been pressing my nose against the glass all day while on my Mac, and I switch to the PC and http://viola  :-P Here I am!!!

I see little none has joined us  :lol: :flower: :smt026 :smt006 :cheers: :smt041

Ahh there you are :) Thats weird..Maybee need to update the OS? I am on OSX10.39 and works like a charm in this forum..


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:31:57 AM
hey monkeys!! I've been pressing my nose against the glass all day while on my Mac, and I switch to the PC and http://viola  :-P Here I am!!!

I see little none has joined us  :lol: :flower: :smt026 :smt006 :cheers: :smt041

Ahh there you are :) Thats weird..Maybee need to update the OS? I am on OSX10.39 and works like a charm in this forum..

OSX10.49 no problems . . . .


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 12:31:59 AM
ANg...I hope I don't get banned.. :shock:

but it does match the new decor!!!

  LMAO  You wont get banned..   8-)   I might though   :shock:
 Heck the song fits..   8-) 8-)

I just hope everyone likes Axle....  :lol:

 I am sure there are plenty here that will   8) 8)   


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:34:23 AM
Mishy: edited to say: OSX10.4.9


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 12:36:41 AM
Well Gang...

I think I well ventrue forth .. to worlds unknow.. to explore and disover new things
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I just hope I can find my way to this new Music Forum (In a bit) without having to send up flares or send e-mails to anyone that I know OR get locked out again :-D


SeeYaaByeeee



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mishy on July 29, 2007, 12:37:34 AM
I see Mishy out there..Can you post??

yes!!!!!!!!! :smt109


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 12:38:20 AM
I forgot ... we have a spell checker now... Oh well


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:38:58 AM
Well Gang...

I think I well ventrue forth .. to worlds unknow.. to explore and disover new things
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I just hope I can find my way to this new Music Forum (In a bit) without having to send up flares or send e-mails to anyone that I know OR get locked out again :-D


SeeYaaByeeee



just use the jump to feature....


ANG>.. I just got a blank email from you??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:39:46 AM
Well Gang...

I think I well ventrue forth .. to worlds unknow.. to explore and disover new things
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I just hope I can find my way to this new Music Forum (In a bit) without having to send up flares or send e-mails to anyone that I know OR get locked out again :-D


SeeYaaByeeee



See ya OF!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mishy on July 29, 2007, 12:40:52 AM
hey monkeys!! I've been pressing my nose against the glass all day while on my Mac, and I switch to the PC and http://viola  :-P Here I am!!!

I see little none has joined us  :lol: :flower: :smt026 :smt006 :cheers: :smt041

Ahh there you are :) Thats weird..Maybee need to update the OS? I am on OSX10.39 and works like a charm in this forum..

Actually I have OSX10.4.10...it's a new machine... :roll:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:42:54 AM
Mishy: edited to say: OSX10.4.9

Edited once again ... getting used to the new quote format. :?

*******: I was responding to your comment. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mishy on July 29, 2007, 12:43:57 AM
angie, if you're still here, did you ever get the email I sent to your aol last night?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:45:20 AM
I have OS20.1



just kidding  ;)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:46:37 AM
hey monkeys!! I've been pressing my nose against the glass all day while on my Mac, and I switch to the PC and http://viola  :-P Here I am!!!

I see little none has joined us  :lol: :flower: :smt026 :smt006 :cheers: :smt041

Ahh there you are :) Thats weird..Maybee need to update the OS? I am on OSX10.39 and works like a charm in this forum..

Actually I have OSX10.4.10...it's a new machine... :roll:

Nice! . . . I've been having my own issues tonight just getting used to the new quote format . . . responded to you when ******* was the post I was actually responding to re: the OS.  :? :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:47:53 AM
I have OS20.1



just kidding  ;)

 :shock: :eek: LOL!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:48:45 AM
well we are all learning togehter... but I think the new forum is cool as grits! :lol:

*******, did you see the offical welcome song? :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mishy on July 29, 2007, 12:49:20 AM
I have OS20.1



just kidding  ;)

Klaas! :smt018
Well, I'm going to get off this computer as I've been on it all day. Great to see you all...Cya'll tomorrow!!!

Thanks *******, klaas, and San for the help today!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 12:50:00 AM
Quote from: mishy link=topic=1927.msg257188#msg257188
[/quote

Ahh there you are :) Thats weird..Maybee need to update the OS? I am on OSX10.39 and works like a charm in this forum..

Actually I have OSX10.4.10...it's a new machine...  

Hi Mishy :-D Is it brand new?? Maybee there are some updates you havent done yet? Like shadow was saying he is at 10.4.9..Could be something as simple as that.. :smt069


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 12:53:00 AM
well we are all learning togehter... but I think the new forum is cool as grits! :lol:

*******, did you see the offical welcome song? :lol:

Yes!! It's a great welcoming song!! :smt098 :smt023


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:53:53 AM
Nite y'all...

welcome to anybody new I missed... it's good to have you here.

Robots... I hope you get to liking it...

see y'all tomorrow... keep the faith


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 12:54:54 AM
Am back to ask Mrs. Red a question, but someone said something about OX 10. 3.9. I am running that. Anyway I can help? I didn't go to 10.4 because I didn't have the $$ and gumption :lol: for a new OS.

Mrs. Red, I was looking at sm . com for oldtimes sake before it changes and saw a post about TES doing a search for "Texas EquuSearch To Join the Search for Missing Donna Jou"

Guess I have missed the updates. That guy's address is just 10 blocks south of where I used to live... there's a very fluent neighborhood, then an area of apartments. Ave, rent there is 1200 for a 1 br apt and houses are expensive.

It is now about 20 blocks north of where I live! I will go to the TES site in a few minutes and see if there are searching here and behaps I can be of help.

Is there a more on front photo of him???

O/t Question... was she staying there in WLA or did she ride the motorcycle from Orange County to his house,.... one heck of a long ride!

I know some of the areas under and along the freeways of 10 and 405 as I used to teach "survival" English to some homeless Hispanics under there. They hid behind the most expensive places...

I have known the police spokesman for Orange Co since the mid-70's when he helped me and my student. He was then spokesman for LAPD. Very honest man!

I am posting my questions here, Mrs. Red, for I am afraid you won't see them under the other thread.

Please, did she live around here? I can't find info from where she left and came back to.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 12:56:11 AM
I have OS20.1



just kidding  ;)
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 12:57:28 AM
Quote from: mishy link=topic=1927.msg257188#msg257188
[/quote

Ahh there you are :) Thats weird..Maybee need to update the OS? I am on OSX10.39 and works like a charm in this forum..

Actually I have OSX10.4.10...it's a new machine...  

Hi Mishy :-D Is it brand new?? Maybee there are some updates you havent done yet? Like shadow was saying he is at 10.4.9..Could be something as simple as that.. :smt069

 :-) Shadow is a she.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 01:02:06 AM
angie, if you're still here, did you ever get the email I sent to your aol last night?

 Mishy I never did get it???    AOL is being screwy bigtime.. its pissing me off. I get some emails.. hit reply and off it shoots a blank one. Mrs Red emailed me and I tryed 3 times til she finally got my reply. I dont use AOL to be on SM but use it mainly for emails.  You can call me if you want Mishy. Hope there is nuttin wrong?  :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 01:03:35 AM
well we are all learning togehter... but I think the new forum is cool as grits! :lol:

*******, did you see the offical welcome song? :lol:


 :lol: :lol:  Night to yah!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 01:03:54 AM
I have OS20.1



just kidding  ;)

Klaas! :smt018
Well, I'm going to get off this computer as I've been on it all day. Great to see you all...Cya'll tomorrow!!!

Thanks *******, klaas, and San for the help today!!!
Glad you made it on Mishy.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 01:04:37 AM
Ahh I'M sorry Shadow..I should have known..Seems like 90% are females on this forum..sorry :smt057 :smt023 :smt023


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:04:38 AM
Am back to ask Mrs. Red a question, but someone said something about OX 10. 3.9. I am running that. Anyway I can help? I didn't go to 10.4 because I didn't have the $$ and gumption :lol: for a new OS.

Mrs. Red, I was looking at sm . com for oldtimes sake before it changes and saw a post about TES doing a search for "Texas EquuSearch To Join the Search for Missing Donna Jou"

Guess I have missed the updates. That guy's address is just 10 blocks south of where I used to live... there's a very fluent neighborhood, then an area of apartments. Ave, rent there is 1200 for a 1 br apt and houses are expensive.

It is now about 20 blocks north of where I live! I will go to the TES site in a few minutes and see if there are searching here and behaps I can be of help.

Is there a more on front photo of him???

O/t Question... was she staying there in WLA or did she ride the motorcycle from Orange County to his house,.... one heck of a long ride!

I know some of the areas under and along the freeways of 10 and 405 as I used to teach "survival" English to some homeless Hispanics under there. They hid behind the most expensive places...

I have known the police spokesman for Orange Co since the mid-70's when he helped me and my student. He was then spokesman for LAPD. Very honest man!

I am posting my questions here, Mrs. Red, for I am afraid you won't see them under the other thread.

Please, did she live around here? I can't find info from where she left and came back to.



IBE - I don't have the answers to your questions but it would be GREAT if you could help TES!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mishy on July 29, 2007, 01:05:33 AM
well, I did run updates when I got it a couple of months ago, but haven't since. Everything was fine on the mac until I went to my profile and started changing some stuff and then it wouldn't let me on again...

Take care everybody!!! These quote stacks are hard to get used to, but I love this "post reply" window!! Very nice!! 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:05:49 AM
well we are all learning togehter... but I think the new forum is cool as grits! :lol:

*******, did you see the offical welcome song? :lol:


 :lol: :lol:  Night to yah!

Good night Angie!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:07:44 AM
well, I did run updates when I got it a couple of months ago, but haven't since. Everything was fine on the mac until I went to my profile and started changing some stuff and then it wouldn't let me on again...

Take care everybody!!! These quote stacks are hard to get used to, but I love this "post reply" window!! Very nice!! 

See ya Mishy!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mishy on July 29, 2007, 01:07:50 AM
angie, if you're still here, did you ever get the email I sent to your aol last night?

 Mishy I never did get it???    AOL is being screwy bigtime.. its pissing me off. I get some emails.. hit reply and off it shoots a blank one. Mrs Red emailed me and I tryed 3 times til she finally got my reply. I dont use AOL to be on SM but use it mainly for emails.  You can call me if you want Mishy. Hope there is nuttin wrong?  :shock:

no sweetie, I was just curious. I just had a question, but I now have the answer...

Thanks everyone for your help today!!! I'm off to do some


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 29, 2007, 01:10:01 AM
Well it's nity nite time for me....see Ya all in the mornin'

Destiny


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:10:10 AM
Ahh I'M sorry Shadow..I should have known..Seems like 90% are females on this forum..sorry :smt057 :smt023 :smt023

Don't even worry about it  :-) . . . just thought I should let you know.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:11:30 AM
Well it's nity nite time for me....see Ya all in the mornin'

Destiny

Good night Destiny!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 29, 2007, 01:12:42 AM
Well it's nity nite time for me....see Ya all in the mornin'

Destiny

Thanks, Destiny; and thank you (all) for the warm welcome.

Goodnight


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: sirensong on July 29, 2007, 01:14:13 AM
Hi to all the new monkeys!

I have a couple things in my mind right now about what Joran said in his book.  He admits he lied on the night Beth came to town, and asked Deepak and Satish to lie and say they dropped her off at the HI.  It leads me to believe, that whatever was going on, the K2 new full well.  I am thinking they provided the drugs.  They believed his story about leaving her on the beach.  They were shocked to find that Joran told Freddy he left her on the beach.  
I think something went wrong in the car, or at the light house?, and Joran had them drop him and Nat off, saying he would take care of it.  That's why they asked "how's the girl" the next day. HE needed THEM to lie for him. Joran was also relieved that the police hadn't gone to K2's house that night, since "everyone knew Deepak's car".  He was setting them up from the beginning.  I don not believe they picked him up.   I believe alot of answers can be found in Jorans book through his thinking he is so smart, but he has messed up.
 I also noted he said he didn't want to have sex without a condom, "because who knows who else she had been with".  He mentions the group of people with Beth that night of the 30th sticking up for "thier little angel".  I think this was a revenge rape for her not falling for thier advances earlier in the week, (his and his pimp buddies).  I can just see it now, big man that he is, he will take care of" this little bitch".  There is so much anger in his talk of her, I am sure she was targeted.  He most likely did drug her the night she had to be helped back to the room.  Just to get back at her for not being the little American slut he thought all the tourists were.  When he saw the reaction, he knew he could do it again and take her out of CnC's himself.  She didn't go with them willingly.  


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: sirensong on July 29, 2007, 01:17:08 AM
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Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:21:55 AM
Hi to all the new monkeys!

I have a couple things in my mind right now about what Joran said in his book.  He admits he lied on the night Beth came to town, and asked Deepak and Satish to lie and say they dropped her off at the HI.  It leads me to believe, that whatever was going on, the K2 new full well.  I am thinking they provided the drugs.  They believed his story about leaving her on the beach.  They were shocked to find that Joran told Freddy he left her on the beach.  
I think something went wrong in the car, or at the light house?, and Joran had them drop him and Nat off, saying he would take care of it.  That's why they asked "how's the girl" the next day. HE needed THEM to lie for him. Joran was also relieved that the police hadn't gone to K2's house that night, since "everyone knew Deepak's car".  He was setting them up from the beginning.  I don not believe they picked him up.   I believe alot of answers can be found in Jorans book through his thinking he is so smart, but he has messed up.
 I also noted he said he didn't want to have sex without a condom, "because who knows who else she had been with".  He mentions the group of people with Beth that night of the 30th sticking up for "thier little angel".  I think this was a revenge rape for her not falling for thier advances earlier in the week, (his and his pimp buddies).  I can just see it now, big man that he is, he will take care of" this little bitch".  There is so much anger in his talk of her, I am sure she was targeted.  He most likely did drug her the night she had to be helped back to the room.  Just to get back at her for not being the little American slut he thought all the tourists were.  When he saw the reaction, he knew he could do it again and take her out of CnC's himself.  She didn't go with them willingly.  

Hi Sirensong. You are on to something here . . . but I think Joran knew who had been with Natalee against her wishes. IMO.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:22:00 AM
Hi to all the new monkeys!

I have a couple things in my mind right now about what Joran said in his book.  He admits he lied on the night Beth came to town, and asked Deepak and Satish to lie and say they dropped her off at the HI.  It leads me to believe, that whatever was going on, the K2 new full well.  I am thinking they provided the drugs.  They believed his story about leaving her on the beach.  They were shocked to find that Joran told Freddy he left her on the beach.  
I think something went wrong in the car, or at the light house?, and Joran had them drop him and Nat off, saying he would take care of it.  That's why they asked "how's the girl" the next day. HE needed THEM to lie for him. Joran was also relieved that the police hadn't gone to K2's house that night, since "everyone knew Deepak's car".  He was setting them up from the beginning.  I don not believe they picked him up.   I believe alot of answers can be found in Jorans book through his thinking he is so smart, but he has messed up.
 I also noted he said he didn't want to have sex without a condom, "because who knows who else she had been with".  He mentions the group of people with Beth that night of the 30th sticking up for "thier little angel".  I think this was a revenge rape for her not falling for thier advances earlier in the week, (his and his pimp buddies).  I can just see it now, big man that he is, he will take care of" this little bitch".  There is so much anger in his talk of her, I am sure she was targeted.  He most likely did drug her the night she had to be helped back to the room.  Just to get back at her for not being the little American slut he thought all the tourists were.  When he saw the reaction, he knew he could do it again and take her out of CnC's himself.  She didn't go with them willingly.  

BINGO


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:23:43 AM
Hi to all the new monkeys!

I have a couple things in my mind right now about what Joran said in his book.  He admits he lied on the night Beth came to town, and asked Deepak and Satish to lie and say they dropped her off at the HI.  It leads me to believe, that whatever was going on, the K2 new full well.  I am thinking they provided the drugs.  They believed his story about leaving her on the beach.  They were shocked to find that Joran told Freddy he left her on the beach.  
I think something went wrong in the car, or at the light house?, and Joran had them drop him and Nat off, saying he would take care of it.  That's why they asked "how's the girl" the next day. HE needed THEM to lie for him. Joran was also relieved that the police hadn't gone to K2's house that night, since "everyone knew Deepak's car".  He was setting them up from the beginning.  I don not believe they picked him up.   I believe alot of answers can be found in Jorans book through his thinking he is so smart, but he has messed up.
 I also noted he said he didn't want to have sex without a condom, "because who knows who else she had been with".  He mentions the group of people with Beth that night of the 30th sticking up for "thier little angel".  I think this was a revenge rape for her not falling for thier advances earlier in the week, (his and his pimp buddies).  I can just see it now, big man that he is, he will take care of" this little bitch".  There is so much anger in his talk of her, I am sure she was targeted.  He most likely did drug her the night she had to be helped back to the room.  Just to get back at her for not being the little American slut he thought all the tourists were.  When he saw the reaction, he knew he could do it again and take her out of CnC's himself.  She didn't go with them willingly.  

Hi Sirensong. You are on to something here . . . but I think Joran knew who had been with Natalee against her wishes. IMO.

edited to clarify: against her will


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 01:25:11 AM
Thanks Klaas I went to the TES site but couldn't find any info on where they were searching. Anyone know if it is WLA (West Los Angeles) or Orange Co or Fla???

I downloaded the application, but if they are searching in the area where I live, the search will be over by the time they get the application by mail!

I 10 is the Fwy you take to go East!!! for sure.. to FLA branching off in other states and the 405 is for sure to Orange Co.

According to the Sex Offender DB there are many around this area. I worry about the children.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:30:04 AM
Thanks Klaas I went to the TES site but couldn't find any info on where they were searching. Anyone know if it is WLA (West Los Angeles) or Orange Co or Fla???

I downloaded the application, but if they are searching in the area where I live, the search will be over by the time they get the application by mail!

I 10 is the Fwy you take to go East!!! for sure.. to FLA branching off in other states and the 405 is for sure to Orange Co.

According to the Sex Offender DB there are many around this area. I worry about the children.

Pretty sure it's calif.  Let me check, brb


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:32:29 AM
If she did agree to go with them, she did not know who she was actually leaving with (driver & addl. passenger) or where she was really going.  She was obviously under the influence of something that was going to have a very strong effect in a short period of time. IMO


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:35:46 AM
IBE - definately California.  I suspect they will search in the Los Angeles area.  Maybe you can call the TES toll free number and ask them how or when you can volunteer?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: sirensong on July 29, 2007, 01:37:36 AM
 :???:I wasn't done with my post, but I had trouble with my keyboard!!  Wanted to also say that I love the new forum, and thanks to all who made it possible.  And Hi to all the usual monkeys, too! :grin:

I PRAY something breaks in this case.  I just can't stand to see someone so evil walking around blaming his victim to everyone who will listen.  What a monster.   :smt097 

I just saw the new smileys!!  Woo Hoo!  I luv smileys!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 29, 2007, 01:37:43 AM
Think I'm gone for the night.  I'll see everyone tomorrow!  Nite!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:38:52 AM
Nite Casa!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:40:07 AM
Think I'm gone for the night.  I'll see everyone tomorrow!  Nite!

Nite Casa!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 01:44:47 AM
thanks Klaas I'm sort of upset by this... I'll stay online to see if you have info! Where he lived is "very close to home"  Ugh but lots of good people live around there too.

He rented a house... we'd he get that kind of money... House rents are about $2100 and up!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:47:34 AM
Well Monkey's it's almolst 2:00 am here . . . time for me to say good night. Look forward to seeing y'all tomorrow.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: shadow on July 29, 2007, 01:48:40 AM
Well Monkey's it's almolst 2:00 am here . . . time for me to say good night. Look forward to seeing y'all tomorrow.

should have used spell check  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazymom on July 29, 2007, 01:50:48 AM
Well Monkey's it's almolst 2:00 am here . . . time for me to say good night. Look forward to seeing y'all tomorrow.

Hey Monkeys.  I love this new site!!!!!  Thanks to all those that worked so hard.  I have one question.  How do you post without using the "quote" button.  I am very tired and probably overlooked.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:51:36 AM
thanks Klaas I'm sort of upset by this... I'll stay online to see if you have info! Where he lived is "very close to home"  Ugh but lots of good people live around there too.

He rented a house... we'd he get that kind of money... House rents are about $2100 and up!!!

In the thread in the Missing Persons forum there is a little more information about where his house was in Los Angeles.  We know she was there as party goers said she was.  I'd bet they are going to look in that vacinity.  Best thing to do would be to call that toll free TES phone number and find out for sure. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:52:36 AM
Well Monkey's it's almolst 2:00 am here . . . time for me to say good night. Look forward to seeing y'all tomorrow.

Hey Monkeys.  I love this new site!!!!!  Thanks to all those that worked so hard.  I have one question.  How do you post without using the "quote" button.  I am very tired and probably overlooked.



Down at the bottom of the screen there is a REPLY button.  That how you make a post without quoting anyone.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 01:54:03 AM
I called the toll free number and it said all circuits were busy. Odd.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazymom on July 29, 2007, 01:55:11 AM
Boy do I feel dumb!  Thanks for the help.  I will say good night and will play on the new site tomorrow!  


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:56:58 AM
I called the toll free number and it said all circuits were busy. Odd.

Well, I'm sure nobody is there right now anyway.  Try again tomorrow.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:57:13 AM
Boy do I feel dumb!  Thanks for the help.  I will say good night and will play on the new site tomorrow!  

Nite Crazymom


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 01:57:36 AM
The city in which I live borders Palms which is an area of West Los Angeles. It said the address and I am now going to look for it on the map. It's the 3800 and if I weren't too old, I could walk to it. The 3800 of LA is about 10 blks south of where I used the live and about 20 blocks north of where I am now.. I am closer now to the 405... like real close.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 02:02:35 AM
Closing Window / Doors   ect... Putting cat out and turning the Rooster ( If I had them) :lol:
CazyMom
Good to see you....

I do hope Tamikosmom (Janet) and Ducky find their way here

G'nite Monkeys


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 02:04:29 AM
The city in which I live borders Palms which is an area of West Los Angeles. It said the address and I am now going to look for it on the map. It's the 3800 and if I weren't too old, I could walk to it. The 3800 of LA is about 10 blks south of where I used the live and about 20 blocks north of where I am now.. I am closer now to the 405... like real close.

IBE
Search for Orange County's Donna Jou Intensifies

LOS ANGELES, CA (AP)  --   Authorities searching for a convicted sex offender in the case of a missing female college student found the license plate of a truck belonging to the man, as well as his motorcycle helmet, at a Los Angeles intersection, marking the latest break in the investigation.

   San Diego State University student Donna Jou, 19, was last seen June 23 at the Los Angeles home of John Steven Burgess, whom she met on the Internet.

   Jou's family says the last time they saw Jou was when they watched her leave her Rancho Santa Margarita apartment with Burgess for the party. Her mother received a text-message the day after Jou disappeared that said her cell phone battery was dying, but she'd be home soon. She never arrived.

   Burgess' license plate - SinJin 1 - as well as descriptions of his blue 1998 Ford Ranger pickup and his 1981 Yamaha motorcycle have been widely publicized.

   On Sunday, a black plastic tool box was found by a passer-by about a mile and a half from Burgess' house. Inside was the license plate and a black motorcycle helmet, along with other items police wouldn't identify, said Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino.


So I'd say they will search near his rental home.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 02:05:34 AM
GOODNIGHT ALL!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 29, 2007, 02:16:52 AM
Goodnight
GOODNIGHT ALL!

Good night Klaas

Thanks for all you do for us.

It is really appreciated.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on July 29, 2007, 02:21:06 AM
GOODNIGHT ALL!

GOOD NIGHT KLAAS AND TY TO DUGGA, RED, YOU  AND SAN

hope I did this right.. lol


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 02:34:33 AM
Isn't this place just WAY cool!!!?  :-D

:PTHANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU :P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 02:37:19 AM
TESTING PURPLE GLOW

YIPPEE!!!! IT WORKS!!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 02:49:07 AM
Klaas I looked on the map. It's 1 blk north of the border of Palms and Culver City... 1 blk north of my bank and 1.3 miles from my home now. It's a mixed area of Indians, (from India), Hari Krishners (sp?), Muslems. I had friends who rented there but have moved . Mostly apartments; very few homes. It's right next to I 10. I have delivered meals to some homeless under the freeway there a few years ago.

Sometimes I take a volunteer home at night who lives a 1/2 block away (south). It is not an area I would walk in or go to, unless I knew the people very well. I lived just north of there for 34 years. Palms has changed a lot; rentals are not cheap!!!

I have to take a friend somewhere tomorrow and will be in the area. Was just there about 3 blocks away on Thurs. night. Ugh

Good and evil is all around!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 02:52:10 AM
OMG!!!!!

We Have SPELL CHECK!!!!! I JUST SAW THE SPELL CHECK!!!!!!

Oh, Thank You Monkey Gods, Thank You!!!!

I can now have a Zen experience with my Lappy!!!

I'm going to cry, I just know I'm going to cry!!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 03:05:22 AM
sorry the words I wrote didn't come out right. It's just when I take the volunteer home at 10:30 or 11 after meetings there are many people walking around at night. You don't see that that much in LA and it surrounds.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 03:39:06 AM
If TES is searching around his home... this is where 3600 block of Faris is (my 1st time at tiny url) :D
http://tinyurl.com/2ejaj6 (http://tinyurl.com/2ejaj6)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on July 29, 2007, 03:54:29 AM

  There There CBB  ( Ol Jer  Puts his arm around CBB  and "says "  There There CBB  it's all gonna be alright  (  Ol Jer  can't stand to see a Lady cry)  :+( and he is also in Mucho  need of  spell check   :smt083
  Or for that matter most any check will do LOL   :lol:
               your friend >                     Jerry from Ohio



OMG!!!!!

We Have SPELL CHECK!!!!! I JUST SAW THE SPELL CHECK!!!!!!

Oh, Thank You Monkey Gods, Thank You!!!!

I can now have a Zen experience with my Lappy!!!

I'm going to cry, I just know I'm going to cry!!!!
:-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 29, 2007, 06:37:28 AM
Good morning, Jerry ! 

I am so sorry to hear about the eminent domain problem.  I come from a long line of farmers and my dad is in real estate so I sort of understand.  But then I don't.

Anyway, I've been thinking about you.  No matter what happens down on the farm, we'll be here for ya.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on July 29, 2007, 06:49:57 AM
   Good  AM  right Back at you Sweet Lady Peaches  :)
  Yup  and thanks for your good thoughts and prayers  If this whole darn thing doesn't send me over the edge I don't think anything will .  I am still fighting tooth and nail and as you know Old Farmers are notorious for never giving up until the last option is all used up and the Govt and these predators are finding that out  but I am now about of $$ and they know it  and they have a lot deeper pockets  then I ever did have .
 All of my best thoughts and prayers to you also Peaches  Hugs  from your friend  and one of your biggest fans   Jerry from Ohio





Good morning, Jerry ! 

I am so sorry to hear about the eminent domain problem.  I come from a long line of farmers and my dad is in real estate so I sort of understand.  But then I don't.

Anyway, I've been thinking about you.  No matter what happens down on the farm, we'll be here for ya.




Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 29, 2007, 07:05:57 AM
Jerry, have you emailed Sean Hannity at Hannity &Colmes.  I've heard Hannity really lose it on the eminent domain issue. 

Thank you so much for your kind words.  I think about you when I channel surf past the PBR channel.  One of my friends here is hooked on bull riding.  To watch it, I mean.  I'm more a barrel racing kinda girl.  Or pole bending.  Used to look forward to the NE State Fair so I could walk thru the livestock barns with my dad and watch the cowboy events. 

And to think I grew up in town.......

Smoochies to you every day, Jerry.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 08:57:40 AM
Good morning all,
how is everbody doing today?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 09:03:40 AM
Good morning all,
how is everbody doing today?

GOOD MORNING NYC_LOVER.  THINGS ARE FINE HERE TODAY.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 09:07:44 AM
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 09:33:05 AM
GOODMORNING ALL!  I'm really not awake yet but I'm cracking up.  You have to look at the front page of SM, it looks awesome! 

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/

Here's what I'm cracking up about.  The new SM front page Icon for Dana Pretzer Radio, LOLOL.  Can't wait until the Radio site gets upgraded it's going to be a hoot:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/PretzerNew.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 09:41:16 AM
GOODMORNING ALL!  I'm really not awake yet but I'm cracking up.  You have to look at the front page of SM, it looks awesome! 

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/

Here's what I'm cracking up about.  The new SM front page Icon for Dana Pretzer Radio, LOLOL.  Can't wait until the Radio site gets upgraded it's going to be a hoot:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/PretzerNew.jpg)

Looks good. Like the comment in the green box about the forum.  :lol:

What does digg mean?? I'm afraid to click it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 09:42:33 AM
What a hoot Klaas, the FP does look great but so does that radio monkey  :lol: :lol:

dude looks cool and hip doesn't he?  :lol: :lol:

Good morning everyone !

Please join us if you can beachwego - we've missed you.

I am out of coffee so heading to dunkin donuts, can I take any orders?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 09:46:48 AM
GOODMORNING ALL!  I'm really not awake yet but I'm cracking up.  You have to look at the front page of SM, it looks awesome! 

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/

Here's what I'm cracking up about.  The new SM front page Icon for Dana Pretzer Radio, LOLOL.  Can't wait until the Radio site gets upgraded it's going to be a hoot:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/PretzerNew.jpg)





Looks good. Like the comment in the green box about the forum.  :lol:

What does digg mean?? I'm afraid to click it.

Looks like it's a way for people to share and keep track of and share stories/blogs:

Become part of the editorial process by digging and burying stories.
Submit new stories you find on the web.
Follow what your friends are digging, submitting, and commenting.
Keep a history of everything you digg.
Customize the topics you want to follow.
Get sneak previews of beta features


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 29, 2007, 09:47:35 AM
Well, got my passport to the jungle all fixed up and here I am.
After all that, i have nuttin' to say except Hello, Good Morning.
Hello from Canada
[/glow] [/shadow]


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 09:53:25 AM
GOODMORNING ALL!  I'm really not awake yet but I'm cracking up.  You have to look at the front page of SM, it looks awesome! 

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/

Here's what I'm cracking up about.  The new SM front page Icon for Dana Pretzer Radio, LOLOL.  Can't wait until the Radio site gets upgraded it's going to be a hoot:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/PretzerNew.jpg)

Good thing Klaasend.
Thank you for the post!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Blue Moon on July 29, 2007, 10:06:09 AM
Good Morning All. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:07:31 AM
Hey Everybody!!! Good Morning!
( Hah! I just typed in GooG Morning, but no one will ever know because we have GLORIOUS, MAGNIFICENT

SPELL CHECK!!

Has anybody noticed the scroll bar under our avatars?
We can wiggle! Is that our "Giddy-up in our hitch" evaluator?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:08:55 AM
Good Morning All. 

Good Morning, Moon!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 10:10:21 AM
If she did agree to go with them, she did not know who she was actually leaving with (driver & addl. passenger) or where she was really going.  She was obviously under the influence of something that was going to have a very strong effect in a short period of time. IMO
Good morning
I know we have heard that Joran was hanging around the MB kids thru out the time they were there...at the hotel/casino and probably at the bars/clubs.
Do we know if the Kalpoe's were also hanging around the MB kids,with or without Joran?
I don't remember anyone saying anything about the Kalpoe's hanging around.IF they weren't hanging around,this seems to be a part of the pimp plans....you know,to only have the Kalpoe's or at least Deepak come around on the last night on the island so to make the taxi story more believable.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:14:50 AM
Good Morning All. 

Goodmorning Blue Moon - I found this picture for you, would you like to use it for your avatar?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif)

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 10:15:24 AM
Morning Monkeys

I see i missed the donut run  :x

Still working on the 1st (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/0c6beb7d.gif)

Hi BlueMoon and NYC_Lover

CBB  what scroll bar ??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:18:38 AM
If she did agree to go with them, she did not know who she was actually leaving with (driver & addl. passenger) or where she was really going.  She was obviously under the influence of something that was going to have a very strong effect in a short period of time. IMO
Good morning
I know we have heard that Joran was hanging around the MB kids thru out the time they were there...at the hotel/casino and probably at the bars/clubs.
Do we know if the Kalpoe's were also hanging around the MB kids,with or without Joran?
I don't remember anyone saying anything about the Kalpoe's hanging around.IF they weren't hanging around,this seems to be a part of the pimp plans....you know,to only have the Kalpoe's or at least Deepak come around on the last night on the island so to make the taxi story more believable.


I always had the impression that K2, particularly Deepak, was subordinate to Joran in all social settings. Remember Joran said he had only known Deepak 4 months ( Joran's mouth so who knows ) and they didn't go to school together, Deepak "watched" as Joran gambled, K2 were at Joran's beckon call at all hours of the morning to chauffer, etc, etc.

Of course all of that came from liars, so who knows, but, I do think that Joran and then Joran's Daddy, called ALL the shots.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Blue Moon on July 29, 2007, 10:19:46 AM
Good Morning All. 

Goodmorning Blue Moon - I found this picture for you, would you like to use it for your avatar?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif)

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif

Yes.  That looks much better than mine.  I did manage to at least set my picture after trying since last night.  Have a thing about doing these things myself---Learning experience.  :P :P :P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 29, 2007, 10:20:12 AM
Good Morning everyone,

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:21:28 AM
Morning folks.

I'm making a test post to see if I can get it to go through. Last night it kept kicking me out.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:22:22 AM
Good Morning All. 

Goodmorning Blue Moon - I found this picture for you, would you like to use it for your avatar?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif)

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif

Yes.  That looks much better than mine.  I did manage to at least set my picture after trying since last night.  Have a thing about doing these things myself---Learning experience.  :P :P :P

I agree - it's best to do it yourself otherwise you never learn.  So..you can either copy the link above or right mouse click on the photo and save to your PC.  Be sure to save it as a .gif so the file isn't too large.  Then you can upload it just as you did the first time.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 29, 2007, 10:22:38 AM
Last night I was reading Tamiskomom's Janet's FP Post about her Ducky.
Sounded very silly, like Klaasend was running a Ducky Day Care at her real house. I want to get rid of the giraffe and replace with the cute blinking kitty, but am not awake enough to to that.
One thing I did do was all the cleanup utilities of everything. Oh, I just noticed the Headlines on the right-------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>
And they change.
This is a nice jungle.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:23:26 AM
Good Morning All. 

Goodmorning Blue Moon - I found this picture for you, would you like to use it for your avatar?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif)

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif

The one that looks like the one under the link to Blue Moon's Picture, except in miniature. Right under your avatar.

What are the numbers in the lower right corner? Everybody elses says "logged or logged in or log something". It has a little badminton birdie next to it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:24:33 AM
Last night I was reading Tamiskomom's Janet's FP Post about her Ducky.
Sounded very silly, like Klaasend was running a Ducky Day Care at her real house. I want to get rid of the giraffe and replace with the cute blinking kitty, but am not awake enough to to that.
One thing I did do was all the cleanup utilities of everything. Oh, I just noticed the Headlines on the right-------------------------->>>>>>>>>>>
And they change.
This is a nice jungle.

Yes, I really hope Janet can get in today!  I have been taking really good care of Ducky for her but he does miss her:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/TAMIKOSMOM.gif)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Blue Moon on July 29, 2007, 10:24:38 AM
Good Morning All. 

Goodmorning Blue Moon - I found this picture for you, would you like to use it for your avatar?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif)

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/bluemoonkycopy.gif

Yes.  That looks much better than mine.  I did manage to at least set my picture after trying since last night.  Have a thing about doing these things myself---Learning experience.  :P :P :P

I agree - it's best to do it yourself otherwise you never learn.  So..you can either copy the link above or right mouse click on the photo and save to your PC.  Be sure to save it as a .gif so the file isn't too large.  Then you can upload it just as you did the first time.

Does this look O.K?  Is it too big?  Looks much better to me.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 10:27:55 AM
Morning 
OS, BT,Kat_Gram


CBB
the numbers are your IP  addess and only YOU and the admins can see them

Still NO scroll bar...on my settings


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:28:51 AM
You look gorgeous Blue Moon!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:29:25 AM
The button on the left is your PROFILE, the button on the right is for PMing.  I don't think the PM system is up and running yet.  On the bottom right of your post only YOU will see that your IP is logged and YOU (also Admin) will see your IP number.  Nobody else can see your IP but YOU and ADMIN.


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/CBBbuttons2.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:29:51 AM
I'm still on hubby's computer because my laptop still won't connect to the wireless thingy here at home. Anyway, I always use IE because that's all my email wants to work with. Whenever I try to log in to the new SM using IE, it won't work. That was the problem I was having last night. If I use Firefox it seems to work okay. Does this mean that this new software doesn't work with IE and that I'm going to have to keep two browsers open all the time now?

By the way, if I get an answer I might not even know it. I STILL cannot figure out who is saying what in these quote stacks.  :(


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:30:31 AM
Blue Moon  - I beleive the software is automatically resizing some so they aren't too big.  So, no..it's not too big and you look GREAT!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:31:22 AM
Morning 
OS, BT,Kat_Gram


CBB
the numbers are your IP  addess and only YOU and the admins can see them

Still NO scroll bar...on my settings

OH!!!
When I closed my "Favorites" window they went away!  :lol:

Try it! It must be there only when your screen is little! HOW CUTE!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:31:41 AM
Oh, and is there any way I can turn off that thing that stops me being able to post because it warns me that someone else has posted in the meantime? That thing is a pain in the butt.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:32:17 AM
I'm still on hubby's computer because my laptop still won't connect to the wireless thingy here at home. Anyway, I always use IE because that's all my email wants to work with. Whenever I try to log in to the new SM using IE, it won't work. That was the problem I was having last night. If I use Firefox it seems to work okay. Does this mean that this new software doesn't work with IE and that I'm going to have to keep two browsers open all the time now?

By the way, if I get an answer I might not even know it. I STILL cannot figure out who is saying what in these quote stacks.  :(

NO - it has nothing to do with IE or the browser you are using.  It's most likely a cookie issue, a cookie saved on your laptop or pc that is directing to the old site.

Most of us use IE and can access the forum with no problems.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 10:32:19 AM
I'm still on hubby's computer because my laptop still won't connect to the wireless thingy here at home. Anyway, I always use IE because that's all my email wants to work with. Whenever I try to log in to the new SM using IE, it won't work. That was the problem I was having last night. If I use Firefox it seems to work okay. Does this mean that this new software doesn't work with IE and that I'm going to have to keep two browsers open all the time now?

By the way, if I get an answer I might not even know it. I STILL cannot figure out who is saying what in these quote stacks.  :(

BT
I use IE.. so I know that works
Coming thru AOL was having problems

Klaasend
do you have a scroll bar ?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:32:56 AM
Oh, and is there any way I can turn off that thing that stops me being able to post because it warns me that someone else has posted in the meantime? That thing is a pain in the butt.

YES - Go into your profile and check these boxes


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/Profile2.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:33:38 AM
Oldfart - NO scrollbar - I don't know what CBB is talking about, LOL  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:34:13 AM
I'm still on hubby's computer because my laptop still won't connect to the wireless thingy here at home. Anyway, I always use IE because that's all my email wants to work with. Whenever I try to log in to the new SM using IE, it won't work. That was the problem I was having last night. If I use Firefox it seems to work okay. Does this mean that this new software doesn't work with IE and that I'm going to have to keep two browsers open all the time now?

By the way, if I get an answer I might not even know it. I STILL cannot figure out who is saying what in these quote stacks.  :(

NO - it has nothing to do with IE or the browser you are using.  It's most likely a cookie issue, a cookie saved on your laptop or pc that is directing to the old site.

Most of us use IE and can access the forum with no problems.

Okay, thanks Klaas. If I can ever get the laptop to work again, maybe it won't be a problem on there. Hubby has lots of strange settings on this big computer.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:34:16 AM
The button on the left is your PROFILE, the button on the right is for PMing.  I don't think the PM system is up and running yet.  On the bottom right of your post only YOU will see that your IP is logged and YOU (also Admin) will see your IP number.  Nobody else can see your IP but YOU and ADMIN.


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/CBBbuttons2.jpg)

Thank You, Klaas!
I don't have a thingy for PMs yet.
( I'm not grouchy )  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 10:35:30 AM
CBB
Now I can see the Scroll bar  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:35:34 AM
CBB - that doesn't happen with me.  Might be the browser you are using.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:36:09 AM
Oh, and is there any way I can turn off that thing that stops me being able to post because it warns me that someone else has posted in the meantime? That thing is a pain in the butt.

YES - Go into your profile and check these boxes


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/Profile2.jpg)


Okay, thanks again. I'll get it eventually. It takes us old folks a while you know. :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:36:29 AM
Like I said, I don't think the PM thing is working yet.  Could be only ADMIN can see that button right now.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:37:00 AM
BTGirl - I'm way older than you  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:37:46 AM
Oldfart - NO scrollbar - I don't know what CBB is talking about, LOL  :lol:

 :lol: :lol:
UH-HUH!! My "Favorites" list takes up screen space to the left of my Scared Monkeys window. When it's open, I get horizontal scroll bars under pictures and links in the forum. Try it!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:38:38 AM
BTGirl - I'm way older than you  :lol: :lol:

Not possible. Even dirt isn't older than me.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:39:46 AM
CBB
Now I can see the Scroll bar  :lol: :lol:

Whew........thought I was having a senior moment there, OF!

Well, we can wiggle when our favorite's are around!  :grin:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 10:40:00 AM
Oldfart - NO scrollbar - I don't know what CBB is talking about, LOL  :lol:

 :lol: :lol:
UH-HUH!! My "Favorites" list takes up screen space to the left of my Scared Monkeys window. When it's open, I get horizontal scroll bars under pictures and links in the forum. Try it!

I just clicked on the restore down botton  two little boxes next to the red x close window button


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:44:38 AM
I saw a post by Mrs Red that referred to a "Jump To" feature. Anybody know what or where that is?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 10:44:43 AM
I'v waited  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/saveit/21ff1608.gif) for NoneS to get back with breakfast...

Oh.. well   
Got to Run...

Seee Ya  Byee


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 10:46:11 AM
I saw a post by Mrs Red that referred to a "Jump To" feature. Anybody know what or where that is?

Bottom of the Page   
Long Blue Bar
With a white section at the end of it..


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 10:48:33 AM
Klaas? Because the avatars are resized automatically, does that mean that when a Holiday is coming up and there's lots of avatars to make, I can just post them "as is"? That would be helpful for me.

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm really excited about the new cage!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:50:12 AM
Klaas? Because the avatars are resized automatically, does that mean that when a Holiday is coming up and there's lots of avatars to make, I can just post them "as is"? That would be helpful for me.

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm really excited about the new cage!

Not exactly.  I think the avatars loaded from photobucket get "squared off and resized".  If you try to upload a photo that's too large from your PC I think you get an error. I'm not positive and I'd bet the avatar settings can be adjusted as well.

Down at the bottom of this screen is the "jump to" feature.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 10:55:35 AM
Klaas
Thanks for digg info

BlueMoon
You look great

Kat_Gram
Glad you got your passport (I read the FP).

Karma
I have never seen an indication that the K2 were around.  I do recall a comment made that in a previous situation, they were at C&Cs (back in some booth) similiar to the MB night.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:56:56 AM
Sorry if I'm asking things that people asked all day yesterday.

1. Is there a way on here to go to a specific page?
2. Is there a way to search for someone's posts? I could never get the hang of that at all at BFN.

TY


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: oldfart on July 29, 2007, 10:57:10 AM
Logged back in to say

The Prnt Key  is  Slick

Full recount  of the Entire  Cage  from page 1  to now..

Wow....  No more scrolling & scrolling to read to catch up


Now I'm gone


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:59:28 AM
Sorry if I'm asking things that people asked all day yesterday.

1. Is there a way on here to go to a specific page?
2. Is there a way to search for someone's posts? I could never get the hang of that at all at BFN.

TY

1.  Don't have that answer for you yet
2.  The easiest way I've found to search for a particular persons posts is to go to the Member list, find them then look at their profile and you can choose view their posts.

Remember - this is new to me too


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 11:01:26 AM
BT I have the answer I think. You need to switch from the hotel uplink to the one at your home. Do you know how to do this, or do I need to make some screen shots to explain it?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 11:02:33 AM
Sorry if I'm asking things that people asked all day yesterday.

1. Is there a way on here to go to a specific page?
2. Is there a way to search for someone's posts? I could never get the hang of that at all at BFN.

TY

1.  Don't have that answer for you yet
2.  The easiest way I've found to search for a particular persons posts is to go to the Member list, find them then look at their profile and you can choose view their posts.

Remember - this is new to me too

Thanks. I haven't had a chance to read all the things that have been said since the changeover, but I'm sure you've been bombarded with 10,000 questions. Thanks for being patient with us.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 29, 2007, 11:03:20 AM
CBB
Now I can see the Scroll bar  :lol: :lol:
Where the heck is it, please?   :-( I've been following your conversation, and I sure can't find a scroll bar thing.  :? :?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 11:04:55 AM
Morning monkeys.  Is Nonsey back yet with the donuts?  I bet she's being a tease again this morning.  Well, after a nap, as prescribed by San, I think I may be able to handle the new cage a little better today. 

I have a proposal.  Since we have some newbies here could we begin from the beginning again?  Maybe we could go over everything one more time and see what we have missed.  Now, that we more to work with I was thinking the newbies would probably ask questions that we have thought about before but didn't know the answers to at the time.  We have much better resources now to search for the answers.  Just a thought. 

Waiting for those donuts...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 11:05:15 AM
BT I have the answer I think. You need to switch from the hotel uplink to the one at your home. Do you know how to do this, or do I need to make some screen shots to explain it?

Thanks, Rob. I don't know if the screen shots would help or not, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Is it something you could email to me? The only amusing part of all this is that hubby is a computer network manager for the State of Tennessee (head of his whole dept even), and HE can't figure out how to get the laptop to reconnect to the wireless here at home. Go figure! It's like the shoe maker's children being the ones to go without shoes.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:06:11 AM
CBB
Now I can see the Scroll bar  :lol: :lol:
Where the heck is it, please?   :-( I've been following your conversation, and I sure can't find a scroll bar thing.  :? :?

I think they see it when they have their favorites (on the left) drop down menu opened.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Blue Moon on July 29, 2007, 11:08:08 AM
BT I have the answer I think. You need to switch from the hotel uplink to the one at your home. Do you know how to do this, or do I need to make some screen shots to explain it?

Thanks, Rob. I don't know if the screen shots would help or not, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Is it something you could email to me? The only amusing part of all this is that hubby is a computer network manager for the State of Tennessee (head of his whole dept even), and HE can't figure out how to get the laptop to reconnect to the wireless here at home. Go figure! It's like the shoe maker's children being the ones to go without shoes.  :lol:

BT
Go to you wireless card utility, Remove all the connections and then Add back your connection only.  Should reconnect to your home wireless only.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:08:09 AM
BT I have the answer I think. You need to switch from the hotel uplink to the one at your home. Do you know how to do this, or do I need to make some screen shots to explain it?

Thanks, Rob. I don't know if the screen shots would help or not, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Is it something you could email to me? The only amusing part of all this is that hubby is a computer network manager for the State of Tennessee (head of his whole dept even), and HE can't figure out how to get the laptop to reconnect to the wireless here at home. Go figure! It's like the shoe maker's children being the ones to go without shoes.  :lol:

Just a thought.  If your wireless card for your laptop is one you can pull out..have you tried pulling it out and re-inserting it?  It will look again for a wireless connection.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:08:36 AM
oldfart  or anyone

Does the Print button automatically print the whole thread...or...can it be used to review and not print?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:10:00 AM
oldfart  or anyone

Does the Print button automatically print the whole thread...or...can it be used to review and not print?

I just clicked on the print button and it opens to another screen that you can view. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 11:10:51 AM
BT I have the answer I think. You need to switch from the hotel uplink to the one at your home. Do you know how to do this, or do I need to make some screen shots to explain it?

Thanks, Rob. I don't know if the screen shots would help or not, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Is it something you could email to me? The only amusing part of all this is that hubby is a computer network manager for the State of Tennessee (head of his whole dept even), and HE can't figure out how to get the laptop to reconnect to the wireless here at home. Go figure! It's like the shoe maker's children being the ones to go without shoes.  :lol:

Just a thought.  If your wireless card for your laptop is one you can pull out..have you tried pulling it out and re-inserting it?  It will look again for a wireless connection.

I don't know if hubby tried that last night or not. He took it away with him and grumbled over it for hours, then returned it me and grumbled that he had done everything he could to make it work but it wouldn't. It says it's connected to the wireless network, but it says it's not "associated" with it. It's all Greek to me.  :?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 11:11:03 AM
What is scroll-bar and where can I find it?
Is there away, how you can somebody PMed, yet?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 11:11:14 AM
BT I have the answer I think. You need to switch from the hotel uplink to the one at your home. Do you know how to do this, or do I need to make some screen shots to explain it?

Thanks, Rob. I don't know if the screen shots would help or not, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Is it something you could email to me? The only amusing part of all this is that hubby is a computer network manager for the State of Tennessee (head of his whole dept even), and HE can't figure out how to get the laptop to reconnect to the wireless here at home. Go figure! It's like the shoe maker's children being the ones to go without shoes.  :lol:

BT- in the right hand corner of your task bar... all the way ovah to the right... near the clock... do you see a small monitor icon with a series of these )))?

right click that on your laptop... not your husbands.

Then you will see a box that says view available wireless connections. click that.

Then click the one for your home and hit connect. It should ask if you want to change and force a connection... hit YES.

That will reset your home connection.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:12:36 AM
oldfart  or anyone

Does the Print button automatically print the whole thread...or...can it be used to review and not print?

I just clicked on the print button and it opens to another screen that you can view. 

Yowzers...that is nice!!  :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:12:52 AM
What is scroll-bar and where can I find it?
Is there away, how you can somebody PMed, yet?

I don't know if the scroll bar thing works for everyone, I still don't see it.  I also don't think the PM feature works yet. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 29, 2007, 11:13:53 AM
CBB
Now I can see the Scroll bar  :lol: :lol:
Where the heck is it, please?   :-( I've been following your conversation, and I sure can't find a scroll bar thing.  :? :?

I think they see it when they have their favorites (on the left) drop down menu opened.
Buckeye ~ thanks for the answer ~ I think I'll just blow it off . . . I'm regressing from yesterday.   :oops: :oops:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:16:32 AM
What is scroll-bar and where can I find it?
Is there away, how you can somebody PMed, yet?

I think scroll bar only appears if there's an avatar and only if the favorites drop down menu is opened.

No PMs yet and I don't have the little thing Klaas showed a picture of.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 11:16:47 AM
Klaas
Thanks for digg info

BlueMoon
You look great

Kat_Gram
Glad you got your passport (I read the FP).

Karma


I have never seen an indication that the K2 were around.  I do recall a comment made that in a previous situation, they were at C&Cs (back in some booth) similiar to the MB night.

Hey, Buckeye? I'm going to test out the image/avatar theory and post a buckeye for you if you want it, k?
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/buckeye.gif)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/buckeye.gif


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 11:17:16 AM
What is scroll-bar and where can I find it?
Is there away, how you can somebody PMed, yet?

I don't know if the scroll bar thing works for everyone, I still don't see it.  I also don't think the PM feature works yet. 

Thank you Klaasend


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:19:26 AM
tcumom

These are the days to play and ask away.  I figure, if I wait a week, I'll really look stupid.   :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:25:39 AM
CBB

Thanks.  If you were checking sizes, I just copy and pasted the link.  I did not save to my computer first.  I feel very BRIGHT!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:26:53 AM
http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/7/28/

VICTOR H. AGNES TA MAL SERA PA DROGA NA ARUBA.
El a trata di burla autoridad pa transporta Cocaina pa Hulanda. . 
 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Apesar cu e sospechoso a cubri su cara pa evita cu fotografo capte na momento di su detencion, a sali na claridad cu ta trata di un pasahero di transito naci na Curaçao yama Victor H. Agnes a worde gara cu cierto cantidad di Cocaina den su maleta.

Tabata e cacho di douane Recherché a haya holo di e droga y a indica e dog handle cu den e maleta tin droga scondi.

E maleta a worde habri, controla y den pakkinan di Jell-O a bin descubri cocaina mezcla cu e mansa di e Jell-O.

Mesora cu esaki a keda comproba a detene y a sigui cu e procedura segun ley ta describi. Victor a worde entrega pa departamento di droga y efectivonan lo sigui cu e investigacion.

E detenido a viaha desde Curaçao pa Aruba y pa continua su vuelo pa Hulanda, pero te cu aeropuerto Reina Beatrix el a yega y awor e ta encarcela E cantidad di droga ainda mester worde determina ya cu e a worde mezcla cu Jell-O cu intencion pa desvia autoridad, pero e cacho anti droga a intercepta esaki.

(http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/7/28/local/newsimages/droga.1.jpg)

(http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/7/28/local/newsimages/droga.2.jpg)


Through translator:

victor h. agnes is bad close for drugs at aruba. past owing to deal of burla autoridad for transporta cocaina for the netherlands. come across.

oranjestad (aan): despite cu the sospechoso owing to cubri his cara for evita cu fotografo capte at instant of his detencion, owing to leave at claridad cu is deal of one passenger of transito naci at curaçao calling victor h. agnes owing to worde grab cu cierto cantidad of cocaina in his trunk. was the cacho of douane recherché owing to achieve holo of the drugs y owing to indica the dog handle cu in the trunk have drugs scondi. the trunk owing to worde open, controla y in pakkinan of jell-o owing to come descubri cocaina mezcla cu the mansa of the jell-o. at once cu this owing to stay comproba owing to detene y owing to follow cu the procedura according ley is describi. victor owing to worde entrega for departamento of drugs y efectivonan will follow cu the investigacion. the detenido owing to viaha by curaçao for aruba y for continua his vuelo for the netherlands, but till cu aeropuerto queen beatrix past owing to arrive y now the is encarcela the cantidad of drugs still have to worde determina already cu the owing to worde mezcla cu jell-o cu intencion for desvia autoridad, but the cacho across from drugs owing to intercepta this. come across


JELLO SHOTS?   :shock:

 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 11:28:19 AM
BT
My daughter just said the same thing that Rob did about reconnecting to your wireless.  She has to do that when she moves around campus and then back to her apartment. I didn't know you had to do that, but then again I don't have a laptop.  Then she said, "Why doesn't she just ask her computer geek hubby?"  I tried not to laugh...to hard.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 11:29:37 AM
BT I have the answer I think. You need to switch from the hotel uplink to the one at your home. Do you know how to do this, or do I need to make some screen shots to explain it?

Thanks, Rob. I don't know if the screen shots would help or not, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Is it something you could email to me? The only amusing part of all this is that hubby is a computer network manager for the State of Tennessee (head of his whole dept even), and HE can't figure out how to get the laptop to reconnect to the wireless here at home. Go figure! It's like the shoe maker's children being the ones to go without shoes.  :lol:

BT- in the right hand corner of your task bar... all the way ovah to the right... near the clock... do you see a small monitor icon with a series of these )))?

right click that on your laptop... not your husbands.

Then you will see a box that says view available wireless connections. click that.

Then click the one for your home and hit connect. It should ask if you want to change and force a connection... hit YES.

That will reset your home connection.


Sorry, Rob. My mom called and I got distracted. I'm upstairs on the big computer right now, but I'll try that when I get back downstairs.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 11:29:49 AM
Klaas
Does that say they are putting cocaine in jello shots?  :o


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:30:47 AM
Think the guys take the jello shots off of the girls. Would sort of make for reverse drugging.  Think this one was transporting powder disguised as jello...but I don't know two words of papiamentu.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 11:31:27 AM
BT
My daughter just said the same thing that Rob did about reconnecting to your wireless.  She has to do that when she moves around campus and then back to her apartment. I didn't know you had to do that, but then again I don't have a laptop.  Then she said, "Why doesn't she just ask her computer geek hubby?"  I tried not to laugh...to hard.  :lol:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:32:05 AM
Klaas
Does that say they are putting cocaine in jello shots?  :o

I don't think it says jello SHOTS, but it does say jello.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 11:32:19 AM
Klaas- looks like someone was runnin' their own Botica....lmao!!! :smt074 :smt028


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 11:32:39 AM
Think the guys take the jello shots off of the girls. Would sort of make for reverse drugging.  Think this one was transporting powder disguised as jello...but I don't know two words of papiamentu.

Once the they mix it with gelatin, then what do they do to get it in a usable form?  Snort it with the gelatin in it? 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:33:17 AM
Think the guys take the jello shots off of the girls. Would sort of make for reverse drugging.  Think this one was transporting powder disguised as jello...but I don't know two words of papiamentu.

Buckeye - at CnC some of the girls were taking shots off of the girls as well.  Jello shots are often just taken as shots and not OFF anyone. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:34:15 AM
Think the guys take the jello shots off of the girls. Would sort of make for reverse drugging.  Think this one was transporting powder disguised as jello...but I don't know two words of papiamentu.

Once the they mix it with gelatin, then what do they do to get it in a usable form?  Snort it with the gelatin in it? 

Cocaine can be swallowed and injected, it doesn't have to be snorted.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 11:37:01 AM
There's Royal Pudding and Pie Filling in the picture, as well. Wonder what that's for??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:38:21 AM
Think the guys take the jello shots off of the girls. Would sort of make for reverse drugging.  Think this one was transporting powder disguised as jello...but I don't know two words of papiamentu.

Once the they mix it with gelatin, then what do they do to get it in a usable form?  Snort it with the gelatin in it? 

Maybe there was no gelatin.  Only packed in the jello wrapper (with food coloring?) ??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 11:39:00 AM
Aruba's own FREEZONE is totally responsible for the cocaine and they want to blame Natalee for that TOO!!!

bunch of frickin hypocrites.

if you knew that there was a problem in your neighborhood with an open old well that is spewing methane into your surrounds, would you blame the neighborhood kid that fell into the well or the seal the well and take appropriate action so that no one else is harmed by the thing?



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 29, 2007, 11:39:31 AM
What is scroll-bar and where can I find it?
Is there away, how you can somebody PMed, yet?

I don't know if the scroll bar thing works for everyone, I still don't see it.  I also don't think the PM feature works yet. 

I think the scroll bar applies to screens less than 17". I have 17 and do not have a scrool bar.

You only get it if you need it.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 29, 2007, 11:40:44 AM
tcumom

These are the days to play and ask away.  I figure, if I wait a week, I'll really look stupid.   :lol: :lol:
I think I'll take that good advice ~ be prepared!  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:41:22 AM
Think the guys take the jello shots off of the girls. Would sort of make for reverse drugging.  Think this one was transporting powder disguised as jello...but I don't know two words of papiamentu.

Buckeye - at CnC some of the girls were taking shots off of the girls as well.  Jello shots are often just taken as shots and not OFF anyone. 

I know kids around here used to put Vodka in jello shots...not that there were ever jello cubes in the fridge...that ended up not being jello...I never thought about it at C&C.  Maybe they had more than the girl's "bottle".   :shock: :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 11:41:52 AM
We saw earlier this year a complete X lab was found in the cargo area. A COMPLETE LAB IN A CONTAINER. Ready to mix all the ingredients and manufacture X right there.

How many of those labs were not discovered?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:43:02 AM
What is scroll-bar and where can I find it?
Is there away, how you can somebody PMed, yet?

I don't know if the scroll bar thing works for everyone, I still don't see it.  I also don't think the PM feature works yet. 

I think the scroll bar applies to screens less than 17". I have 17 and do not have a scrool bar.

You only get it if you need it.

OS

os
That makes sense.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 11:44:49 AM
It just occurred to me Buckeye..............

Come Halloween, it's going to be a cinch to make a Monster out of your seed pod!!  :lol:

And wouldn't Klaas be awesome peeking out of a haunted house window??

I'm looking too hard at this new cage!! Isn't it great?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:46:26 AM
Don't drug-sniffing dogs hit on this kind of stuff??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 11:46:52 AM
Klaas
Thanks for digg info

BlueMoon
You look great

Kat_Gram
Glad you got your passport (I read the FP).

Karma
I have never seen an indication that the K2 were around.  I do recall a comment made that in a previous situation, they were at C&Cs (back in some booth) similiar to the MB night.
Thanks Buckeye...whoa,what is your new icon?Kinda scarey,looks like a sunflower eye,lol :smt003
Hmmmm,now I think I do remember one of the MB girls saying something about Joran arriving at C&C's sunday night with his friends.....I don't think Deepak hung around long in the bars when they were playing the pimp game...reason again for them all showing up half hour before closing on the last night.Deepak can then truly look like a taxi driver.
Wow,even more new smileys!
:colors:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 11:48:06 AM
Don't drug-sniffing dogs hit on this kind of stuff??

I was wondering the same thing. I know that coffee and cheese are used to mask the smell, but maybe flavored jello could mask it as well?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 29, 2007, 11:48:43 AM
I am looking in the "Help" section" (beside the home button under avatar) It really shows you how to do everything from registering, posting, etc.

It is really quite helpful.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:50:56 AM
It just occurred to me Buckeye..............

Come Halloween, it's going to be a cinch to make a Monster out of your seed pod!!  :lol:

And wouldn't Klaas be awesome peeking out of a haunted house window??

I'm looking too hard at this new cage!! Isn't it great?

Yes, CBB

The cage is nice.  Please don't spend a lot of time on me.  I'm really not a "flashy" kind of girl. I do appreciate your enthusiasm.  :smt026


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:52:57 AM
COCAINE:

It is most commonly sniffed in lines but it is occasionally injested orally or injected into the bloodstream. When sniffed effects begin within a couple of minutes and last between a half hour and an hour. When ingested orally the effects are more mild and onset can take up to an hour.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 11:58:25 AM
I am looking in the "Help" section" (beside the home button under avatar) It really shows you how to do everything from registering, posting, etc.

It is really quite helpful.

OS

Just tried it.  You're right, it is helpful.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 12:01:15 PM
Is anyone having issues with AOL? Easy says he hasn't been able to get into the new forum and wonders if that's what the problem is.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 12:02:09 PM
Karma

It's a buckeye.  They grow in pods, like that.  Of course, they are not that bright. CBB enhancing everyone's qualities.   :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 12:03:08 PM
Ladies- drug sniffing dogs are not allowed in the freezone. That's the whole point... it's free of taxes and scrutiny.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:03:23 PM
Is anyone having issues with AOL? Easy says he hasn't been able to get into the new forum and wonders if that's what the problem is.

Mere, and Sunfreak are both having problems with AOL.  Sunfreak is dialup and Easy is too.  I've let Dugga know that there's still a problem with AOL.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 12:04:07 PM
Is anyone having issues with AOL? Easy says he hasn't been able to get into the new forum and wonders if that's what the problem is.

Mere, and Sunfreak are both having problems with AOL.  Sunfreak is dialup and Easy is too.  I've let Dugga know that there's still a problem with AOL.

Thanks, Klaas.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 12:08:06 PM
O/T

CBB

I tried to make a pic of the Betty Boop cafe in San Francisco, but I don't know how it turned out. When I get a minute to look for it, I'll post it in the lounge if it turned out okay.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 12:09:35 PM
Is anyone having issues with AOL? Easy says he hasn't been able to get into the new forum and wonders if that's what the problem is.
I still am having a problem getting in thru aol.I have both aol and IE opened,the forum works fine thru IE,not on aol though.
Also,say I'm on page 20 of the thread,I make a post and it jumps me back to say page 25(where my post shows as the last post of the thread)....then I have to go back to where I was reading on page 20.Is there a way to go back to the page you were reading on after you post a reply?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 12:09:58 PM
O/T

CBB

I tried to make a pic of the Betty Boop cafe in San Francisco, but I don't know how it turned out. When I get a minute to look for it, I'll post it in the lounge if it turned out okay.

There's a Betty Boop Cafe? That's a hoot!
I'll look for it, BT!  :cool:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:10:01 PM
COCAINE:

It is most commonly sniffed in lines but it is occasionally injested orally or injected into the bloodstream. When sniffed effects begin within a couple of minutes and last between a half hour and an hour. When ingested orally the effects are more mild and onset can take up to an hour.


Hence the Lysol bottle maybe???

Morning Monkeys!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 12:10:22 PM
http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/7/28/

Through translator:

victor h. agnes is bad close for drugs at aruba. past owing to deal of burla autoridad for transporta cocaina for the netherlands. come across.

oranjestad (aan): despite cu the sospechoso owing to cubri his cara for evita cu fotografo capte at instant of his detencion, owing to leave at claridad cu is deal of one passenger of transito naci at curaçao calling victor h. agnes owing to worde grab cu cierto cantidad of cocaina in his trunk. was the cacho of douane recherché owing to achieve holo of the drugs y owing to indica the dog handle cu in the trunk have drugs scondi. the trunk owing to worde open, controla y in pakkinan of jell-o owing to come descubri cocaina mezcla cu the mansa of the jell-o. at once cu this owing to stay comproba owing to detene y owing to follow cu the procedura according ley is describi. victor owing to worde entrega for departamento of drugs y efectivonan will follow cu the investigacion. the detenido owing to viaha by curaçao for aruba y for continua his vuelo for the netherlands, but till cu aeropuerto queen beatrix past owing to arrive y now the is encarcela the cantidad of drugs still have to worde determina already cu the owing to worde mezcla cu jell-o cu intencion for desvia autoridad, but the cacho across from drugs owing to intercepta this. come across


JELLO SHOTS?   :shock:

 


Translating of word that not been translate to English on http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl/
cachó: 1. dog
cu: 1. with
deskubrí: 1. discover, uncover
desviá: 1. turn
douane: customs
entregá: 1. deliver, furnish, supply
evitá: 1. avoid, evade
fotógrafo: 1. photographer | 2. photographer
holó: 1. odor, odour, scent, smell
indiká: 1. indicate, suggest
investigacion: 1. investigation, examination, test
y: and


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:10:22 PM
It just occurred to me Buckeye..............

Come Halloween, it's going to be a cinch to make a Monster out of your seed pod!!  :lol:

And wouldn't Klaas be awesome peeking out of a haunted house window??

I'm looking too hard at this new cage!! Isn't it great?


Oh I would be adorable as a witch...ooops!  I think I already am.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:11:16 PM
Is anyone having issues with AOL? Easy says he hasn't been able to get into the new forum and wonders if that's what the problem is.
I still am having a problem getting in thru aol.I have both aol and IE opened,the forum works fine thru IE,not on aol though.
Also,say I'm on page 20 of the thread,I make a post and it jumps me back to say page 25(where my post shows as the last post of the thread)....then I have to go back to where I was reading on page 20.Is there a way to go back to the page you were reading on after you post a reply?


Hi Smish... I still hit the back button twice....


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 12:12:31 PM
Karma

It's a buckeye.  They grow in pods, like that.  Of course, they are not that bright. CBB enhancing everyone's qualities.   :lol:
LOL...well it sure is purdy in a scarey kinda way.
 :cyclops:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:15:45 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:16:34 PM
Klaas... anyone...

do I need to read back to hear what ppl thought of the front page? 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:18:44 PM
Klaas... anyone...

do I need to read back to hear what ppl thought of the front page? 

 :lol: :lol: I don't think most have even looked at the front page yet.  I think it's AWEWOME!  I just love Dana Pretzer's new look, LOL.  Also the comment area is really nice and CLEAR to read now.


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/PretzerNew.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:18:58 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 12:19:27 PM
I have to tell y'all the strange dream I had last night. It must have been the product of fatigue and migraine headache medicine.  :lol:

For some reason I was on Aruba, talking to JVDS at the VDS residence. Anyway, he was being really sweet and explaining that he would never have done anything bad to Natalee. Then, Paulus and Anita came in and they were very gracious and kind, and I left thinking what wonderful people they were. As soon as I had walked out the door, though, my mouth and throat got really dry and I desperately needed a drink of water. My mouth was so dry, in fact, that I could barely talk. Anyway, I went back to the house and asked Paulus if I could have a glass of water. He said yes, but walked outside and starting pointing out restaurants where I could get something to drink. Then he laughed really cruelly and said, "you didn't really think I'd give you a glass of water, did you?"

I gotta cut back on the migraine medicine, I think.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:21:29 PM
Klaas... anyone...

do I need to read back to hear what ppl thought of the front page? 

 :lol: :lol: I don't think most have even looked at the front page yet.  I think it's AWEWOME!  I just love Dana Pretzer's new look, LOL.  Also the comment area is really nice and CLEAR to read now.


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/PretzerNew.jpg)


And I was so sure that I wasn't going to have to say read the fp anymore... :smt079 :?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 12:21:42 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

Lala's, GHB and Ecstacy have opposite effects.  GHB acts like an opiate or sleeping potion.  Within a half hour of taking it, the victim is generally unconscious.  It's a liquid, colorless and odorless, so is easily mixed with a drink. 

Ectasy is an upper, much like amphetamine or cocaine.  It's generally distributed as a pill.  The user experiences feelings of euphoria, happiness, and greater energy.  It's popularity began about 30 years ago when ravers took it as it made them happy and able to dance all night.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 12:22:48 PM
Is anyone having issues with AOL? Easy says he hasn't been able to get into the new forum and wonders if that's what the problem is.
I still am having a problem getting in thru aol.I have both aol and IE opened,the forum works fine thru IE,not on aol though.
Also,say I'm on page 20 of the thread,I make a post and it jumps me back to say page 25(where my post shows as the last post of the thread)....then I have to go back to where I was reading on page 20.Is there a way to go back to the page you were reading on after you post a reply?


Hi Smish... I still hit the back button twice....
Hi Mrs Red
That's what I used to do in the old forum.When I click"post",nothing comes up saying my post was posted.So hit the back button twice right after hitting post?
I'll try it on this post.Thanks :)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 29, 2007, 12:24:55 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.

Could you say-- GHB would suppress mental activity and memory; XTC would stimulate desires and suppress inhabition. 

Would that be accurate?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 12:26:15 PM
Klaas... anyone...

do I need to read back to hear what ppl thought of the front page? 

 :lol: :lol: I don't think most have even looked at the front page yet.  I think it's AWEWOME!  I just love Dana Pretzer's new look, LOL.  Also the comment area is really nice and CLEAR to read now.


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/PretzerNew.jpg)

I read the front page this morning,from aol no less lol
It is awesome!
I wish the posts were numbered though like they used to be but all in all,much easier to read.Beautiful front page and I love Dana's new logo.Now,can we do something about the new purple no longer matching my icon?
:lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 12:26:16 PM
Maybe the AOL Monkeys should try minimizing the AOL browser and then opening Internet Explorer.  They can probably connect to SM using Internet Explorer.  We have the same problem at school when students use AOL to try to connect to Blackboard, our course program.  They have to another browser other than the AOL browser.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:27:31 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.

Could you say-- GHB would suppress mental activity and memory; XTC would stimulate desires and suppress inhabition. 

Would that be accurate?


yes, that's it... AZLady just posted a more detailed explanation. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 12:28:52 PM
I have to tell y'all the strange dream I had last night. It must have been the product of fatigue and migraine headache medicine.  :lol:

For some reason I was on Aruba, talking to JVDS at the VDS residence. Anyway, he was being really sweet and explaining that he would never have done anything bad to Natalee. Then, Paulus and Anita came in and they were very gracious and kind, and I left thinking what wonderful people they were. As soon as I had walked out the door, though, my mouth and throat got really dry and I desperately needed a drink of water. My mouth was so dry, in fact, that I could barely talk. Anyway, I went back to the house and asked Paulus if I could have a glass of water. He said yes, but walked outside and starting pointing out restaurants where I could get something to drink. Then he laughed really cruelly and said, "you didn't really think I'd give you a glass of water, did you?"

I gotta cut back on the migraine medicine, I think.  :lol:
:shock: :cyclops:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 29, 2007, 12:29:14 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.

Could you say-- GHB would suppress mental activity and memory; XTC would stimulate desires and suppress inhabition. 

Would that be accurate?


yes, that's it... AZLady just posted a more detailed explanation. 

That was a great explanation.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 12:31:10 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.

Indeed, Mrs Red. And both been hard-drug. I think Ecastasy (XTC) and cocaine has the same effects on somebody his or her body. From both you get much energy. And when somebody it used they becomes mostly very busy of that troop. Lala's mom: I know, when somebody used XTC, they get a stare impact/effect.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:31:22 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Slogger on July 29, 2007, 12:33:49 PM
Thanks, AZlady.

It's easy to understand why there would be an effort to downplay use of GHB, and promote use of XTC or cocaine.

According to Alana's information, there is reason to believe GHB, and not self-induced.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: snoopy on July 29, 2007, 12:34:18 PM


Hello Monkey Buddies!!
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 :smt006 :smt006 :smt006 :smt006


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:35:46 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

WOW... somebody is finally thinking my theory... that they drugged her with ghb to rape her and tried the cocaine to wake her up... and then gave her too much...but something else happened they didn't count on.... like she did fall.... or maybe Satish hit her with the car...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 12:39:12 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.

Could you say-- GHB would suppress mental activity and memory; XTC would stimulate desires and suppress inhabition. 

Would that be accurate?


yes, that's it... AZLady just posted a more detailed explanation. 

Morning All

You guys are correct Ecstasy(XTC) and GHB have opposite affects..XTC the pill is very popular with ravers and at parties..However for some reason GHB also is known as Liquid Ecstasy..So XTC and Liquid XTC are very diffrent drugs..


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 12:41:17 PM
MDMA (Ecstasy)
MDMA (3-4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a synthetic, psychoactive drug chemically similar to the stimulant methamphetamine and the hallucinogen mescaline. Street names for MDMA include "ecstasy," "XTC," and "hug drug." In high doses, MDMA can interfere with the body's ability to regulate temperature. On rare but unpredictable occasions, this can lead to a sharp increase in body temperature (hyperthermia), resulting in liver, kidney, and cardiovascular system failure, and death. Because MDMA can interfere with its own metabolism (breakdown within the body), potentially harmful levels can be reached by repeated drug use within short intervals.

GHB
Since about 1990, GHB (gamma hydroxybutyrate) has been abused in the U.S. for its euphoric, sedative, and anabolic (body building) effects. It is a central nervous system depressant that was widely available over-the-counter in health food stores during the 1980s and until 1992. It was purchased largely by body builders to aid in fat reduction and muscle building. Street names include "liquid ecstasy," "soap," "easy lay," "vita-G," and "Georgia home boy."

Coma and seizures can occur following use of GHB. Combining use with other drugs such as alcohol can result in nausea and breathing difficulties. GHB may also produce withdrawal effects, including insomnia, anxiety, tremors, and sweating. GHB and two of its precursors, gamma butyrolactone (GBL) and 1,4 butanediol (BD), have been involved in poisonings, overdoses, date rapes, and deaths.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/Clubdrugs.html


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 12:41:26 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

I don't think that would be done.  For one thing, the victim would be unconscious and you couldn't effectively make her swallow the ecstacy.  Even if you could, ecstacy is a slower-acting, longer effect type of drug.  Usually the person who is dosed with GHB is just allowed to sleep it off and then they wake up hours later.  Those who don't are dead.  Here's more on GHB:  http://www.projectghb.org/english.htm


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:41:38 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

WOW... somebody is finally thinking my theory... that they drugged her with ghb to rape her and tried the cocaine to wake her up... and then gave her too much...but something else happened they didn't count on.... like she did fall.... or maybe Satish hit her with the car...

Well, I never actually thought about waking her up, but now that the cocaine tale has been floated around it makes a little sense.  If you recall in Deepak's statement, the earlier ones, he mentions Natalee lying with her head in Joran's lap.  The first time I read that I got huge red flags everywhere. ( I know, it's just me, but anyway) I think she was indeed drugged from that shot of 151 that Joran gave her.  He bought it for her and he made certain that she washed it down.  Then within a few minutes she is leaving Cnc's.  She is still able to walk from what Alana says and she had no intention of going anywhere with Joran...until the drug kicks in.  Joran is conveniently there for her. Swish! Bam! Boom!  She's in a car and going away.  A practiced scenario if there ever was one.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 12:45:07 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

I don't think that would be done.  For one thing, the victim would be unconscious and you couldn't effectively make her swallow the ecstacy.  Even if you could, ecstacy is a slower-acting, longer effect type of drug.  Usually the person who is dosed with GHB is just allowed to sleep it off and then they wake up hours later.  Those who don't are dead.  Here's more on GHB:  http://www.projectghb.org/english.htm

Oaky, maybe I am way off base in that one.  I was just thinking about it.  Maybe the pimps know a way to wake the girls up in order to get a more realistic video.  I mean, what good is it if the girl is out cold?  I know, off base here too. Sorry. My opinion only.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 12:47:58 PM
Lala's, that is what happened.  While GHB is odorless and colorless, it does have a distinctly salty flavor.  That is one reason why it is mixed with a shot of 151 rum.  By the time you might detect the saltiness, you have already downed the drink as shots are usually taken in one swallow.  Another reason is that a smaller dose of GHB is needed when it is mixed with alcohol.  The alcohol enhances the effects. 

Someone who has overdosed on GHB has very slow to eventually no respiration, possibly convulsions, vomiting, and finally irregular and no heartbeat.  This all happens quickly and is definitely a 911 emergency.  By the time Natalee convulsed and vomited, her heart and breathing stopped pretty soon afterward.  There would not have been time to try some other drug on her.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 12:49:17 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

Lala'sMom: No XTC help somebody a wake up. XTC is not a against fight means again GHB.
There been another means for GHB, when somebody is a victim of GHB.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Blue Moon on July 29, 2007, 12:50:36 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.

Could you say-- GHB would suppress mental activity and memory; XTC would stimulate desires and suppress inhabition. 

Would that be accurate?


yes, that's it... AZLady just posted a more detailed explanation. 

That was a great explanation.

What would the effect be if given GHB at CnC along with alcohol and then at the stop that was made after leaving CnC's she was given XTC?  Would this cause an overdose mixing the two drugs? Would make sense they were going for the full effects offered by both drugs.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 12:51:13 PM
MRS. RED - I know Red and Dugga were probably up most of the night working on the transition of the front page but please have Red check his email when he can.

There are still many members that can't get in, especially those on AOL dialup.  AOL continues to be an issue.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 12:52:17 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.

Could you say-- GHB would suppress mental activity and memory; XTC would stimulate desires and suppress inhabition. 

Would that be accurate?


yes, that's it... AZLady just posted a more detailed explanation. 

Morning All

You guys are correct Ecstasy(XTC) and GHB have opposite affects..XTC the pill is very popular with ravers and at parties..However for some reason GHB also is known as Liquid Ecstasy..So XTC and Liquid XTC are very diffrent drugs..


Good afternoon *******.
Do u have got my email?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 12:54:30 PM
If anything was given to Natalee after leaving C&C's, it was probably more GHB that lead to her death. 

Effects: The onset of GHB effects is rapid. Unconsciousness or overdose can occur after 15 minutes and a coma can occur within 30-40 minutes. GHB produces a wide range of effects including: drowsiness, nausea, dizziness, amnesia, decreased rate, reduced blood pressure, visual hallucinations, coma and death. Alcohol intensifies the effects of GHB and increases the liklihood of overdose and death. GHB overdose often requires emergency room care and many deaths have resulted. Rapists have used GHB to facilitate sexual assaults because the victim is unable to resist and may have difficulty remembering exactly what happened, rendering the case difficult to prosecute in court. There have been numerous occurences of people slipping GHB into other people’s drinks for the purpose of taking advantage of them.
from http://www.waynesvillepd.com/Narcotics/GHB/ghb.html


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 12:55:40 PM
MRS. RED - I know Red and Dugga were probably up most of the night working on the transition of the front page but please have Red check his email when he can.

There are still many members that can't get in, especially those on AOL dialup.  AOL continues to be an issue.

K... will do... i am reading back, sorry i didn't reply sooner...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 12:56:45 PM
I need a little drug education here.  I probably missed it the first time it was discussed, but is GHB and Ecstasy the same thing?  If not do they both have the same effects? 

No, they aren't... ghb will completely pass the person out, it is like you want to make them unconcious.  with Ecstasy they are hyper... it's why it's taken during raves.... effects are somewhat like cocaine.... but maybe more intense.

Could you say-- GHB would suppress mental activity and memory; XTC would stimulate desires and suppress inhabition. 

Would that be accurate?


yes, that's it... AZLady just posted a more detailed explanation. 

That was a great explanation.

What would the effect be if given GHB at CnC along with alcohol and then at the stop that was made after leaving CnC's she was given XTC?  Would this cause an overdose mixing the two drugs? Would make sense they were going for the full effects offered by both drugs.

Blue Moon of KY:
XTC in combination with alcohol is deadly.
GHB in combination with alcohol is deadly.
Cocaine in combination with alcohol is deadly.
And I think mixing drugs can been deadly too.
And more kind of drugs in combination with alcohol is deadly.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 12:58:24 PM
I think one of these two drugs is what most likely they gave Natalee..Rohypnol seems like the heavier of the two as the effects can last twice as long.

Gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB)
Grievous Bodily Harm, G, Liquid Ecstasy,


GHB’s intoxicating effects begin 10-20 minutes after the drug is taken. The effects typically last up to 4 hours, depending on the dosage.At lower doses, GHB can relieve anxiety and produce relaxation; however, as the dose increases, the sedative effects may result in sleep and eventual coma or death.

Overdose of GHB can occur rather quickly, and the signs are similar to those of other sedatives: drowsiness, nausea, vomiting, headache, loss of consciousness, loss of reflexes, impaired breathing, and ultimately death


Rohypnol (flunitrazepam) Roofies,Rophies,Roche,Forget-me-pill

Rohypnol is tasteless and odorless, and it dissolves easily in carbonated beverages.The sedative and toxic effects of Rohypnol are aggravated by concurrent use of alcohol. Even without alcohol, a dose of Rohypnol as small as 1 mg. can impair a victim for 8 to 12 hours.The drug can cause profound “anterograde amnesia”; that is, individuals may not remember events they experienced while under the effects of the drug. This may be why one of the street names for Rohypnol is “the forget-me-pill” and it has been reportedly used in sexual assaults.

Cities where cases of Rohypnol use are being reported: Miami, Houston, and along the Texas- Mexico border. (There have been suspicions of Rohypnol use in the Inland Empire.)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 12:58:48 PM
I think the confusion arose because of the numerous street names for these "club drugs."  GHB is also called Liquid Ecstacy; however, it is not the same as the ecstacy pills that ravers take to get high and dance all night.  I think the cocaine suggestion came about for several reasons:
  • Cocaine is very prevalent on the island, as it is a transhipment point from South to North America,
  • Cocaine is taken voluntarily, while GHB is usually administered as a rape drug,
The cocaine reference is an attempt to throw the blame on Natalee for overdosing herself, when in reality she never touched cocaine but was overdosed by Joran and the 2K's on GHB.  The one scenario is an accidental overdose; the second scenario is murder.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 12:59:37 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

WOW... somebody is finally thinking my theory... that they drugged her with ghb to rape her and tried the cocaine to wake her up... and then gave her too much...but something else happened they didn't count on.... like she did fall.... or maybe Satish hit her with the car...

Joran hit her with his fist or an object because she woke up and was screaming.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 29, 2007, 01:03:12 PM
Natalee was also taking medication for a sinus infection wasn't she? That with Alcohol and GHB and monsters...

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 01:04:05 PM
Hi NYC LOver..Got your email..Funny Stuff!!! :-P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 01:04:11 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

WOW... somebody is finally thinking my theory... that they drugged her with ghb to rape her and tried the cocaine to wake her up... and then gave her too much...but something else happened they didn't count on.... like she did fall.... or maybe Satish hit her with the car...

Joran hit her with his fist or an object because she woke up and was screaming.

San, this is most likely.  GHB doses are very difficult to regulate and predict.  Alcohol also contributes to its effects.  One report said Natalee told Joran she would take the shot in two drinks, not one.  Perhaps she only drank half of it, getting half a dose.  If Joran suspected she didn't get enough, perhaps he gave her another drink with more GHB in it.  Who knows?  Only Joran.  It seems obvious that she got too much of it, one way or another, and went into a coma and died.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Blue Moon on July 29, 2007, 01:04:27 PM
I think the confusion arose because of the numerous street names for these "club drugs."  GHB is also called Liquid Ecstacy; however, it is not the same as the ecstacy pills that ravers take to get high and dance all night.  I think the cocaine suggestion came about for several reasons:
  • Cocaine is very prevalent on the island, as it is a transhipment point from South to North America,
  • Cocaine is taken voluntarily, while GHB is usually administered as a rape drug,
The cocaine reference is an attempt to throw the blame on Natalee for overdosing herself, when in reality she never touched cocaine but was overdosed by Joran and the 2K's on GHB.  The one scenario is an accidental overdose; the second scenario is murder.

So what is different this time than the other 20 times before is the amount of GHB that was given to her than what was given to others before?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 01:06:23 PM
I think the confusion arose because of the numerous street names for these "club drugs."  GHB is also called Liquid Ecstacy; however, it is not the same as the ecstacy pills that ravers take to get high and dance all night.  I think the cocaine suggestion came about for several reasons:
  • Cocaine is very prevalent on the island, as it is a transhipment point from South to North America,
  • Cocaine is taken voluntarily, while GHB is usually administered as a rape drug,
The cocaine reference is an attempt to throw the blame on Natalee for overdosing herself, when in reality she never touched cocaine but was overdosed by Joran and the 2K's on GHB.  The one scenario is an accidental overdose; the second scenario is murder.

So what is different this time than the other 20 times before is the amount of GHB that was given to her than what was given to others before?

Possibly.  Or, the amount of alcohol that enhanced the effects of the GHB.  Or something as innocuous as the person's body weight and tolerance for this type of drug.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 01:10:04 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

WOW... somebody is finally thinking my theory... that they drugged her with ghb to rape her and tried the cocaine to wake her up... and then gave her too much...but something else happened they didn't count on.... like she did fall.... or maybe Satish hit her with the car...

Joran hit her with his fist or an object because she woke up and was screaming.

well I thought of the car because they were seen cleaning it at 2:00 am and the police van conversation where it's mentioned about satish hitting that girl... then later... much later, satish is the one that "picked joran up"....

just tossing out new theories.... I have become less convinced of anything other than this:

they put roofies in her drink, she did not willingly go with them, they raped and killed her....  this I am sure did happen.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 01:10:34 PM
One thing I'm sure about--Natalee didn't TAKE cocaine VOLUNTARILY.  She was INVOLUNTARILY given a date rape drug.  She did not die from an accidental overdose.  She was murdered when Joran gave her an overdose of a date rape drug.  It's that simple.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 01:12:46 PM
I think the confusion arose because of the numerous street names for these "club drugs."  GHB is also called Liquid Ecstacy; however, it is not the same as the ecstacy pills that ravers take to get high and dance all night.  I think the cocaine suggestion came about for several reasons:
  • Cocaine is very prevalent on the island, as it is a transhipment point from South to North America,
  • Cocaine is taken voluntarily, while GHB is usually administered as a rape drug,
The cocaine reference is an attempt to throw the blame on Natalee for overdosing herself, when in reality she never touched cocaine but was overdosed by Joran and the 2K's on GHB.  The one scenario is an accidental overdose; the second scenario is murder.

So what is different this time than the other 20 times before is the amount of GHB that was given to her than what was given to others before?

Possibly.  Or, the amount of alcohol that enhanced the effects of the GHB.  Or something as innocuous as the person's body weight and tolerance for this type of drug.

Or perhaps a different batch.
GHB was (and might still be) very big in the gay bar scenes.  I think there are even "educational" you tube videos.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 01:13:20 PM
One thing I'm sure about--Natalee didn't TAKE cocaine VOLUNTARILY.  She was INVOLUNTARILY given a date rape drug.  She did not die from an accidental overdose.  She was murdered when Joran gave her an overdose of a date rape drug.  It's that simple.

(Geez, now I'm quoting myself).  Correction, she was given a date rape drug by Joran that may have resulted in her death.  On the other hand, Joran himself may have violently killed her after administering the date rape drug to facilitate kidnapping and raping her.  I'm leaving that scenario on the table, too.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 01:14:28 PM
I think the confusion arose because of the numerous street names for these "club drugs."  GHB is also called Liquid Ecstacy; however, it is not the same as the ecstacy pills that ravers take to get high and dance all night.  I think the cocaine suggestion came about for several reasons:
  • Cocaine is very prevalent on the island, as it is a transhipment point from South to North America,
  • Cocaine is taken voluntarily, while GHB is usually administered as a rape drug,
The cocaine reference is an attempt to throw the blame on Natalee for overdosing herself, when in reality she never touched cocaine but was overdosed by Joran and the 2K's on GHB.  The one scenario is an accidental overdose; the second scenario is murder.

So what is different this time than the other 20 times before is the amount of GHB that was given to her than what was given to others before?

Possibly.  Or, the amount of alcohol that enhanced the effects of the GHB.  Or something as innocuous as the person's body weight and tolerance for this type of drug.

Or perhaps a different batch.
GHB was (and might still be) very big in the gay bar scenes.  I think there are even "educational" you tube videos.

OMG, Buckeye.  You mean we might have just shown Lala's a youtube video and be done with it?   :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mishy on July 29, 2007, 01:16:12 PM
Hey monkeys~~I'm back on my Mac! Thanks to Dugga, Red, Klaas, San, and ******* for helping to make that happen!! BTW, the FP looks great!!!!

I see ya'll are talking about GHB and XTC...I'm going to work and lurk for awhile (since most of the time I should have been working yesterday was spent here, or trying to get here!)

Hope you all have a great day!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 29, 2007, 01:16:30 PM

[/quote]
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

WOW... somebody is finally thinking my theory... that they drugged her with ghb to rape her and tried the cocaine to wake her up... and then gave her too much...but something else happened they didn't count on.... like she did fall.... or maybe Satish hit her with the car...

Joran hit her with his fist or an object because she woke up and was screaming.

well I thought of the car because they were seen cleaning it at 2:00 am and the police van conversation where it's mentioned about satish hitting that girl... then later... much later, satish is the one that "picked joran up"....

just tossing out new theories.... I have become less convinced of anything other than this:

they put roofies in her drink, she did not willingly go with them, they raped and killed her....  this I am sure did happen.

Mrs. Red,

I think sk (from in-car taped conversation) hit her with the car.. Changing drivers when dk (said) stopped to relieve himself. But then none of them knew who Natalee was sitting behind in the car, so who knows who was driving away from C&C's. So dang many lies..

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 01:17:04 PM
One thing I'm sure about--Natalee didn't TAKE cocaine VOLUNTARILY.  She was INVOLUNTARILY given a date rape drug.  She did not die from an accidental overdose.  She was murdered when Joran gave her an overdose of a date rape drug.  It's that simple.

I agree.  We might not have the exact "island" drug preference but I am sure the emergency room staff can tell you exactly what drugs are popular. They probably all work for the government, though. Wasn't Freddy's girlfriend Carmen, a nurse??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 29, 2007, 01:18:47 PM
Oh geez,

Klaas, can you fix my double post to Mrs. Red above??

Thanks,

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 01:20:48 PM
AZLady

If my memory serves me correctly, I'm thinking those videos should not be linked.  They are graphic and scarey. Anyone can search youtube for GHB (not the musical group).


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:21:37 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST AND CAPTION CONTEST:

Scared Monkeys Weekend Caption Contest … Man Found Drown in Aruba


http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/07/29/scared-monkeys-weekend-caption-contest-man-found-drown-in-aruba/


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 01:21:41 PM
Now let me get this straight...if Natalee was given a dose of GHB in that shot of 151 Joran bought for her and it caused her problems, thus the symptoms of an overdose...then how could anything else have happened past that point?  Would she not already be dead by the time she was in the car for about 15 minutes?  There would have been no sex, no fighting, etc.  No phone calls. 

Also, if this drug is so easy to overdose on, why is it that most everyone slips it into an alcoholic  drink?  That is the method of dosage, isn't it?  Drinking at a party?  I would assume almost every girl that has ever been the victim of this drug has taken it in a drink containing alcohol.  Help me here.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 01:22:06 PM
One thing I'm sure about--Natalee didn't TAKE cocaine VOLUNTARILY.  She was INVOLUNTARILY given a date rape drug.  She did not die from an accidental overdose.  She was murdered when Joran gave her an overdose of a date rape drug.  It's that simple.

I agree.  We might not have the exact "island" drug preference but I am sure the emergency room staff can tell you exactly what drugs are popular. They probably all work for the government, though. Wasn't Freddy's girlfriend Carmen, a nurse??

I hope that when TES finds her body, there might be discernible traces of what was done to her.  I know that may not be likely so long after her death, but if her body has been in deep water all this time in a cage, it may be possible.  If not, at least the family will be able to take her home, and that's been the goal all along.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 01:22:59 PM
AZLady

If my memory serves me correctly, I'm thinking those videos should not be linked.  They are graphic and scarey. Anyone can search youtube for GHB (not the musical group).


You've got that right!  I was just teasing Lala's.   :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 01:25:31 PM
Oh and speaking of the car.  I have always thought they were cleaning up vomit.  There may have been blood there, but if she was overdosed, then she would have become very sick.  Sick enough to vomit, which maybe they had stopped to let her throw up and Deepak just said he was peeing.  Then she tried to run away...I don't know...I am going in too many directions here. Sorry. I will get more organized in my thinking in a minute.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Red on July 29, 2007, 01:28:45 PM
NEW FRONT PAGE POST AND CAPTION CONTEST:

Scared Monkeys Weekend Caption Contest … Man Found Drown in Aruba


http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2007/07/29/scared-monkeys-weekend-caption-contest-man-found-drown-in-aruba/

I figured the caption was like throwing a softball to y'all. ;)

Have at this one. Trying to hold back on my own captions for this one as I thought of numerous ones as it was posted.

Also remember to look in the right hand column in the forum under the RSS feeds for Headlines from Scaredmonkeys.com, radio podcasts and MissingExploited.com for up to date and recent posts added.

Let's see what captions you come up with.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 01:30:49 PM
Now let me get this straight...if Natalee was given a dose of GHB in that shot of 151 Joran bought for her and it caused her problems, thus the symptoms of an overdose...then how could anything else have happened past that point?  Would she not already be dead by the time she was in the car for about 15 minutes?  There would have been no sex, no fighting, etc.  No phone calls. 

Also, if this drug is so easy to overdose on, why is it that most everyone slips it into an alcoholic  drink?  That is the method of dosage, isn't it?  Drinking at a party?  I would assume almost every girl that has ever been the victim of this drug has taken it in a drink containing alcohol.  Help me here.

Maybe she didn't drink it all. She was in and out of it (and the alcohol). It's history is that of a club drug.  In low doses, people liked the effects.  Maybe she came around some and they gave her more (from the yard cup they got rid of by the Marriott...or the one Joran gave to the tourist  :roll:...notice rolling eyes)??  Who knows.  Maybe she vomited and they gave her more from a water bottle??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZLady on July 29, 2007, 01:32:39 PM
Now let me get this straight...if Natalee was given a dose of GHB in that shot of 151 Joran bought for her and it caused her problems, thus the symptoms of an overdose...then how could anything else have happened past that point?  Would she not already be dead by the time she was in the car for about 15 minutes?  There would have been no sex, no fighting, etc.  No phone calls. 

Also, if this drug is so easy to overdose on, why is it that most everyone slips it into an alcoholic  drink?  That is the method of dosage, isn't it?  Drinking at a party?  I would assume almost every girl that has ever been the victim of this drug has taken it in a drink containing alcohol.  Help me here.

GHB doesn't take effect for about 30 minutes.  That's why J2K go to C&C's a half hour before closing.  It is usually administered in the "last call" drinks.  I'm sure this is why Alana said her eyes looked heavy when she saw her walking out of C&C's--it was beginning to take effect.  They may have given her another dose later--a post I read early in the case indicated this.  Although the victim becomes unconscious within 30 minutes, it does take a while for the body to metabolize the drug, and the effects to build to the point of death.  She may have been unconscious an hour, two or three, before slipping into a coma.  They may have not even known it happened.  However, once she slipped into a coma, the vomiting and slowed heart rate would lead to death fairly quickly, probably within 10 minutes. 

Not everyone takes GHB in alcohol.  In fact, that's the most dangerous way to take it.  People who use the drug "recreationally" usually take it in fruit juice.  (It was given to me in a glass of grape juice.)  The alcohol accelerates the effect--but it also makes it possible to get more doses of GHB out of a batch.   So, bartenders selling GHB-laced shots would get more shots out of a bottle and make more money on one bottle.   


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Observer on July 29, 2007, 01:34:24 PM
Now let me get this straight...if Natalee was given a dose of GHB in that shot of 151 Joran bought for her and it caused her problems, thus the symptoms of an overdose...then how could anything else have happened past that point?  Would she not already be dead by the time she was in the car for about 15 minutes?  There would have been no sex, no fighting, etc.  No phone calls. 

Also, if this drug is so easy to overdose on, why is it that most everyone slips it into an alcoholic  drink?  That is the method of dosage, isn't it?  Drinking at a party?  I would assume almost every girl that has ever been the victim of this drug has taken it in a drink containing alcohol.  Help me here.


Joran hit her with his fist or an object because she woke up and was screaming.

I think it's possible that she was given a low dose at 12:30 and it only lasted 2 hours,she woke up and there was a fight as she freaked out from being raped. I think its possible they drugged her again to render her helpless and to make sure she didn't remember anything when she woke up. She might have been so drugged that they thought she wouldnt be able to remember phone numbers to call but they were wrong.

That or Joran inflicted major damage hitting her in the head and she was seriously hurt and there was no second drugging.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 01:41:34 PM
OS, I just think it's something to consider.  I still think in all the lies there is some truth somewhere.... you know?



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 01:42:42 PM
Hi NYC LOver..Got your email..Funny Stuff!!! :-P

Yes ******* it is, let me think, you want tell after this email, you need a bf....lol :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 01:48:34 PM
I'm expecting Robert Murat to be arrested here soon...

As most know he is the only formal suspect in the Madeleine McCann case. I was expecting an arrest toward the end of this past week and it looks like the police have buttoned it all up against him. There are mulitple people now placing him in and outside the apartment on the night Madeleine was abducted and a serious confrontation occurred when the McCann's friends, Murat and the police all sat down for an interview.

Also, Murat has changed his story approx 11 times.

His mother and his girlfriend are both an alibi and both can not provide an alibi for the same moments.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 01:53:22 PM
If you give a person GHB, I guess we can assume it to be females that are given this drug most of the time, and then she reacts more severely than she should.  Could you then dose her with XTC to wake her up?  How would that work?

WOW... somebody is finally thinking my theory... that they drugged her with ghb to rape her and tried the cocaine to wake her up... and then gave her too much...but something else happened they didn't count on.... like she did fall.... or maybe Satish hit her with the car...

Well, I never actually thought about waking her up, but now that the cocaine tale has been floated around it makes a little sense.  If you recall in Deepak's statement, the earlier ones, he mentions Natalee lying with her head in Joran's lap.  The first time I read that I got huge red flags everywhere. ( I know, it's just me, but anyway) I think she was indeed drugged from that shot of 151 that Joran gave her.  He bought it for her and he made certain that she washed it down.  Then within a few minutes she is leaving Cnc's.  She is still able to walk from what Alana says and she had no intention of going anywhere with Joran...until the drug kicks in.  Joran is conveniently there for her. Swish! Bam! Boom!  She's in a car and going away.  A practiced scenario if there ever was one.
And I believe it did happen that quickly too.With the pimps experience and the drugging,would explain why no one really witnessed Natalee getting into the Kalpoe taxi.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 01:54:08 PM
Well, I am confused again.  Personally, I don't think there was an overdose of GHB.  I think she was indeed dosed with the stuff, but I do not think that is why she died. If this were the case, then all they had to do was toss her out at the beach and continue on with life.  There is more here than the GHB.  It mellowed her up enough to get her in the car with Joran.  It would look as if she willingly agreed to go with them, but she did not die within the  30 minutes to one hour time frame.  Worse things happened to her, I fear.  Otherwise, there would be no reason to lie about anything.  There would be nothing to implicate anyone and no reason to clean the car.  They could have said, we carried her to the hotel.  After that, how she got on the beach would be anyone's guess and it wouldn't matter. It would appear she died from an overdose.  I hate it when I can't get my head around this stuff, just gives me more questions than answers.

Besides, if you notice the early Aruban posters, they immediately began to suspect her being drugged.  Why?  Because it is a common thing there.  They immediately began mentioning Lorenzo and XTC and parties.  It wasn't Shango that began the rave stories, it was the early Aruban posters.  Where there is smoke, there's fire. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 01:56:28 PM
I'm expecting Robert Murat to be arrested here soon...

As most know he is the only formal suspect in the Madeleine McCann case. I was expecting an arrest toward the end of this past week and it looks like the police have buttoned it all up against him. There are mulitple people now placing him in and outside the apartment on the night Madeleine was abducted and a serious confrontation occurred when the McCann's friends, Murat and the police all sat down for an interview.

Also, Murat has changed his story approx 11 times.

His mother and his girlfriend are both an alibi and both can not provide an alibi for the same moments.
That's another sad case. Do you think Madeline has been sold?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 01:57:20 PM
Well, I am confused again.  Personally, I don't think there was an overdose of GHB.  I think she was indeed dosed with the stuff, but I do not think that is why she died. If this were the case, then all they had to do was toss her out at the beach and continue on with life.  There is more here than the GHB.  It mellowed her up enough to get her in the car with Joran.  It would look as if she willingly agreed to go with them, but she did not die within the  30 minutes to one hour time frame.  Worse things happened to her, I fear.  Otherwise, there would be no reason to lie about anything.  There would be nothing to implicate anyone and no reason to clean the car.  They could have said, we carried her to the hotel.  After that, how she got on the beach would be anyone's guess and it wouldn't matter. It would appear she died from an overdose.  I hate it when I can't get my head around this stuff, just gives me more questions than answers.

Besides, if you notice the early Aruban posters, they immediately began to suspect her being drugged.  Why?  Because it is a common thing there.  They immediately began mentioning Lorenzo and XTC and parties.  It wasn't Shango that began the rave stories, it was the early Aruban posters.  Where there is smoke, there's fire. 

All of this makes perfect sense.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: NYC_lover on July 29, 2007, 02:00:22 PM
I'm expecting Robert Murat to be arrested here soon...

As most know he is the only formal suspect in the Madeleine McCann case. I was expecting an arrest toward the end of this past week and it looks like the police have buttoned it all up against him. There are mulitple people now placing him in and outside the apartment on the night Madeleine was abducted and a serious confrontation occurred when the McCann's friends, Murat and the police all sat down for an interview.

Also, Murat has changed his story approx 11 times.

His mother and his girlfriend are both an alibi and both can not provide an alibi for the same moments.

OH REALLY???? That is fantastic news..... They had 3 months that time for bring investigating to this suspect.... wow.... I have no words... right now! 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 02:04:26 PM
Klaas Update: I called the toll free # of TES. A very nice lady answered and took my info. They will call me tomorrow. I told her I heard about the search from Red's post on Scared Monkeys and thold them about how he'd helped them (in case she didn't know) and we all at the blog were working hard on finding the missing.

Mentioned that I was familiar with the RR tracks by the man's house and lived about 3/4 of a mile north of there (Actually 3 very large blocks and a park) but now live in a city that borders there.

If more volunteers were needed I have emails of lots of people who could rally round veterans.

So guess I'll have to plug in my phone Mon and not blog as much. I do hope I can help!!! I am so close.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 02:04:56 PM
Well, I am confused again.  Personally, I don't think there was an overdose of GHB.  I think she was indeed dosed with the stuff, but I do not think that is why she died. If this were the case, then all they had to do was toss her out at the beach and continue on with life.  There is more here than the GHB.   It mellowed her up enough to get her in the car with Joran.  It would look as if she willingly agreed to go with them, but she did not die within the  30 minutes to one hour time frame.  Worse things happened to her, I fear.  Otherwise, there would be no reason to lie about anything.  There would be nothing to implicate anyone and no reason to clean the car.   They could have said, we carried her to the hotel.  After that, how she got on the beach would be anyone's guess and it wouldn't matter. It would appear she died from an overdose.  I hate it when I can't get my head around this stuff, just gives me more questions than answers.

Besides, if you notice the early Aruban posters, they immediately began to suspect her being drugged.  Why?  Because it is a common thing there.  They immediately began mentioning Lorenzo and XTC and parties.  It wasn't Shango that began the rave stories, it was the early Aruban posters.  Where there is smoke, there's fire. 

I agree Lala's.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 02:05:11 PM
Klaas

I'm sure Dugga and Red have thought of this, but is it possible that an IP has been blocked (from AOL) and since AOL shares IPs, it could be blocking some of our members??  Or does the new software only permit so many hits (one?) from a particular IP address...and AOL is sending more than one...so the others are getting blocked??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 02:06:28 PM
One thing I'm sure about--Natalee didn't TAKE cocaine VOLUNTARILY.  She was INVOLUNTARILY given a date rape drug.  She did not die from an accidental overdose.  She was murdered when Joran gave her an overdose of a date rape drug.  It's that simple.

I agree.  We might not have the exact "island" drug preference but I am sure the emergency room staff can tell you exactly what drugs are popular. They probably all work for the government, though. Wasn't Freddy's girlfriend Carmen, a nurse??

I hope that when TES finds her body, there might be discernible traces of what was done to her.  I know that may not be likely so long after her death, but if her body has been in deep water all this time in a cage, it may be possible.  If not, at least the family will be able to take her home, and that's been the goal all along.
I hate to be graphic but this question has been bugging me.IF TES finds Natalee's body,would there still be DNA and signs of drugs injested....from the roots of her hair?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 02:09:17 PM
One thing I'm sure about--Natalee didn't TAKE cocaine VOLUNTARILY.  She was INVOLUNTARILY given a date rape drug.  She did not die from an accidental overdose.  She was murdered when Joran gave her an overdose of a date rape drug.  It's that simple.

I agree.  We might not have the exact "island" drug preference but I am sure the emergency room staff can tell you exactly what drugs are popular. They probably all work for the government, though. Wasn't Freddy's girlfriend Carmen, a nurse??

I hope that when TES finds her body, there might be discernible traces of what was done to her.  I know that may not be likely so long after her death, but if her body has been in deep water all this time in a cage, it may be possible.  If not, at least the family will be able to take her home, and that's been the goal all along.
I hate to be graphic but this question has been bugging me.IF TES finds Natalee's body,would there still be DNA and signs of drugs injested....from the roots of her hair?

DNA would be in the root, if there is a root left.  Think drugs are actualy in the hair shaft and I'm not sure how quickly they get there.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 02:14:59 PM
Klaas

I'm sure Dugga and Red have thought of this, but is it possible that an IP has been blocked (from AOL) and since AOL shares IPs, it could be blocking some of our members??  Or does the new software only permit so many hits (one?) from a particular IP address...and AOL is sending more than one...so the others are getting blocked??

I just emailed to Dugga and Red to make sure they see it.  I have no idea.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 29, 2007, 02:15:34 PM
One thing I'm sure about--Natalee didn't TAKE cocaine VOLUNTARILY.  She was INVOLUNTARILY given a date rape drug.  She did not die from an accidental overdose.  She was murdered when Joran gave her an overdose of a date rape drug.  It's that simple.

I agree.  We might not have the exact "island" drug preference but I am sure the emergency room staff can tell you exactly what drugs are popular. They probably all work for the government, though. Wasn't Freddy's girlfriend Carmen, a nurse??

I hope that when TES finds her body, there might be discernible traces of what was done to her.  I know that may not be likely so long after her death, but if her body has been in deep water all this time in a cage, it may be possible.  If not, at least the family will be able to take her home, and that's been the goal all along.
I hate to be graphic but this question has been bugging me.IF TES finds Natalee's body,would there still be DNA and signs of drugs injested....from the roots of her hair?

DNA would be in the root, if there is a root left.  Think drugs are actualy in the hair shaft and I'm not sure how quickly they get there.
Thanks Buckeye,I always thought when they did drug testing(like for a job)they took the hair out by the root?I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 02:17:10 PM
I'm expecting Robert Murat to be arrested here soon...

As most know he is the only formal suspect in the Madeleine McCann case. I was expecting an arrest toward the end of this past week and it looks like the police have buttoned it all up against him. There are mulitple people now placing him in and outside the apartment on the night Madeleine was abducted and a serious confrontation occurred when the McCann's friends, Murat and the police all sat down for an interview.

Also, Murat has changed his story approx 11 times.

His mother and his girlfriend are both an alibi and both can not provide an alibi for the same moments.
That's another sad case. Do you think Madeline has been sold?

I'm not sure Klaas. There is a good chance that the people seen at the petro station were the right people and could have had Madeleine. Torture is appropriate if it will reveal where Madeleine is and the police have solid evidence against Murat. You know - the irrefutable kind. jmo on the torture tho....

you're right... so sad...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 02:17:54 PM
Klaas Update: I called the toll free # of TES. A very nice lady answered and took my info. They will call me tomorrow. I told her I heard about the search from Red's post on Scared Monkeys and thold them about how he'd helped them (in case she didn't know) and we all at the blog were working hard on finding the missing.

Mentioned that I was familiar with the RR tracks by the man's house and lived about 3/4 of a mile north of there (Actually 3 very large blocks and a park) but now live in a city that borders there.

If more volunteers were needed I have emails of lots of people who could rally round veterans.

So guess I'll have to plug in my phone Mon and not blog as much. I do hope I can help!!! I am so close.

Excellent news IBE!  It's great that you are so close and can rally others to help as well.   Let us know when TES is going to be there, OK?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 02:40:56 PM
Klaas

I'm sure Dugga and Red have thought of this, but is it possible that an IP has been blocked (from AOL) and since AOL shares IPs, it could be blocking some of our members??  Or does the new software only permit so many hits (one?) from a particular IP address...and AOL is sending more than one...so the others are getting blocked??

I just emailed to Dugga and Red to make sure they see it.  I have no idea.

When little none and I post at the same time and are both logged in, I do get a message that I can't post for another 15 seconds.....so I do know there are some inhibitors in place for a singular IP address.......how many and if AOL is inclusive, only Dugga can know.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BlueKYGirl on July 29, 2007, 02:53:54 PM
I just wanted to chime in and say that the new forum looks wonderful! Great job, everyone!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 02:55:08 PM
Klaas

I'm sure Dugga and Red have thought of this, but is it possible that an IP has been blocked (from AOL) and since AOL shares IPs, it could be blocking some of our members??  Or does the new software only permit so many hits (one?) from a particular IP address...and AOL is sending more than one...so the others are getting blocked??

I just emailed to Dugga and Red to make sure they see it.  I have no idea.

I am behind... but I actually know something here... due to an old job where I worked with AOL.. *they suck, btw*  ... I didn't work at AOL just my co. did... anyway they probably haven't updated where the site points now... we have a different server... it's like having a new phone number and not telling that we have a new number... they haven't refreshed... hope that helps.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 03:01:25 PM
Mrs AOL is very proprietary, most hardcore IT people don't like that either. I can't even have AOL open at the same time I am on SM now, even if I'm using firefox or IE?

wackiest thing I've ever seen but I sent screenshots of it to Klaas and she forwarded it to Dugga......my suspicion is that it's a bit more complicated than just a simple refresh.  :?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 03:08:03 PM
Mrs AOL is very proprietary, most hardcore IT people don't like that either. I can't even have AOL open at the same time I am on SM now, even if I'm using firefox or IE?

wackiest thing I've ever seen but I sent screenshots of it to Klaas and she forwarded it to Dugga......my suspicion is that it's a bit more complicated than just a simple refresh.  :?

they have to refresh where they are pointing to the page.. you're right it's more involved than that but that is a part that I get and know about them... that they haven't updated where they are pointing to get to the site...

I could be wrong, but i would be willing to bet that is a huge part of the problem


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 03:10:27 PM
Well, I'm back at my laptop, but only because hubby put in an old wireless card we had lying around the house. Apparently the internal wireless card has now bitten the dust.  :(

Now I have to figure out how to get fixed, as I got it straight from Lenovo and it has a 3 year warranty. Sigh.

We love computers, don't we?  :?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 03:16:29 PM
I have been here 10 hours now... I need to go and pretend I have a life...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 03:17:27 PM
I'm getting some emails from NON AOL users this morning that also can't get in.  Forwarding them to Dugga.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 03:22:54 PM
I have been here 10 hours now... I need to go and pretend I have a life...

We're not internet addicts - are we?  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 03:23:58 PM
BT - what model did you get? That super duper Qoosmio Toshiba's ranked in the top 4 lappy's yet the Lenovo T61 I have, has a much better wireless card? You should be able to get that replaced at any service center, or Lenovo should be able to overnight you one?

Lappy's are kinky  :-?

I traveled with a Dell (they suck) laptop for several years and used the wireless, never had a card go bad - go figure?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 03:31:27 PM
I guess BT floated off in that inner tube  :lol:

later monkeys !


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 03:39:39 PM
BT - what model did you get? That super duper Qoosmio Toshiba's ranked in the top 4 lappy's yet the Lenovo T61 I have, has a much better wireless card? You should be able to get that replaced at any service center, or Lenovo should be able to overnight you one?

Lappy's are kinky  :-?

I traveled with a Dell (they suck) laptop for several years and used the wireless, never had a card go bad - go figure?

I have a T60. If the wireless card is built in - what would they send me?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 29, 2007, 03:52:09 PM
DamnI I could get into Fort Know before I could get here!!  :smt091 Whew~  new forum looks great...it seems like many of us had trouble finding the new forum...I had to sign out of AOL and come in via IE


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dugga on July 29, 2007, 03:53:14 PM
I'm sure Dugga and Red have thought of this, but is it possible that an IP has been blocked (from AOL) and since AOL shares IPs, it could be blocking some of our members??  Or does the new software only permit so many hits (one?) from a particular IP address...and AOL is sending more than one...so the others are getting blocked??
What's happening is that AOL is, as usual, playing by their own rules. If you're interested, I'll try to put this in laymans terms. If not, skip over my technical mumbo jumbo.

When you enter in a domain name theres something called a DNS Server that translates the human readable domain name (scaredmonkeys.net) into a series of numbers (an "IP address"). It's those numbers, the IP address, that the internet uses to pass traffic around.

So what we do when moving servers is we first tell the world not to remember our numbers for very long. Usually systems save DNS once they've looked them up for 2 to 4 days. Because these numbers rarely change, it's usually OK to hang on to a number for a little while, since this cuts down on these "directory assistance" requests ("DNS queries" we call them). We told the world to only save them for 60 seconds, because we knew we were getting ready to move and we didn't want it to take the usual 2 to 4 days for the changes to float around the world. We did this over a week ago. This is called TTL (time to live).

Here is the problem. AOL is playing by their own rules. Instead of listening to us when we said "throw your numbers away after 60 seconds", they're just saving them for as long as they like with no regard to the fact that we've told the world not to keep things for very long because of the pending change.

The old address has the "check back soon" message. AOL is still sending people to the old address. And unfortunately, no amount of cache-clearning or cookie-deleting or rebooting will solve this problem. It is strictly an issue with AOL's internal DNS system and their internal memory of DNS entries that they maintain. Until AOL decides "Hey, this looks like an old set of numbers. Maybe we'll throw these out and look up some new ones." I'm afraid AOL users are stuck.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 03:54:58 PM
BT - what model did you get? That super duper Qoosmio Toshiba's ranked in the top 4 lappy's yet the Lenovo T61 I have, has a much better wireless card? You should be able to get that replaced at any service center, or Lenovo should be able to overnight you one?

Lappy's are kinky  :-?

I traveled with a Dell (they suck) laptop for several years and used the wireless, never had a card go bad - go figure?

I have a T60. If the wireless card is built in - what would they send me?

well I guess I just went off what's on the product site? As a corporate issue I didn't get all of the manuals with mine but they do list wireless cards on Lenovo's site for the T60? Sorry, I do think you can reach support online even on Sunday, have you tried? I know if you have to pack it up and send it or find a service center, that it's frustrating.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-62764


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dugga on July 29, 2007, 03:55:36 PM
When little none and I post at the same time and are both logged in, I do get a message that I can't post for another 15 seconds.....so I do know there are some inhibitors in place for a singular IP address.......how many and if AOL is inclusive, only Dugga can know.
AOL has tens of thousands of IP addresses, so it's not an issue of everyone sharing one thru AOL. You get a different one every time you dial in.

That feature is called "flood control". It's to prevent bots from taking over a forum too easily and hopefully discourages double-posting also.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 03:58:07 PM
I'm sure Dugga and Red have thought of this, but is it possible that an IP has been blocked (from AOL) and since AOL shares IPs, it could be blocking some of our members??  Or does the new software only permit so many hits (one?) from a particular IP address...and AOL is sending more than one...so the others are getting blocked??
What's happening is that AOL is, as usual, playing by their own rules. If you're interested, I'll try to put this in laymans terms. If not, skip over my technical mumbo jumbo.

When you enter in a domain name theres something called a DNS Server that translates the human readable domain name (scaredmonkeys.net) into a series of numbers (an "IP address"). It's those numbers, the IP address, that the internet uses to pass traffic around.

So what we do when moving servers is we first tell the world not to remember our numbers for very long. Usually systems save DNS once they've looked them up for 2 to 4 days. Because these numbers rarely change, it's usually OK to hang on to a number for a little while, since this cuts down on these "directory assistance" requests ("DNS queries" we call them). We told the world to only save them for 60 seconds, because we knew we were getting ready to move and we didn't want it to take the usual 2 to 4 days for the changes to float around the world. We did this over a week ago. This is called TTL (time to live).

Here is the problem. AOL is playing by their own rules. Instead of listening to us when we said "throw your numbers away after 60 seconds", they're just saving them for as long as they like with no regard to the fact that we've told the world not to keep things for very long because of the pending change.

The old address has the "check back soon" message. AOL is still sending people to the old address. And unfortunately, no amount of cache-clearning or cookie-deleting or rebooting will solve this problem. It is strictly an issue with AOL's internal DNS system and their internal memory of DNS entries that they maintain. Until AOL decides "Hey, this looks like an old set of numbers. Maybe we'll throw these out and look up some new ones." I'm afraid AOL users are stuck.



I think I actually understood this.  You must have been a "level III" tech on a helpline....in a previous life.   :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 03:59:53 PM
BT - support by phone is open 7 days/week in the US, this is the link to phone support for the T60 http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4HWSE3

you can fuss at them in sockmonkey talk  :lol:


Dugga-

I can tell you LOVE Aol too  :lol:

Hi Sunny !!

I have to run for now.......!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 04:01:08 PM
When little none and I post at the same time and are both logged in, I do get a message that I can't post for another 15 seconds.....so I do know there are some inhibitors in place for a singular IP address.......how many and if AOL is inclusive, only Dugga can know.
AOL has tens of thousands of IP addresses, so it's not an issue of everyone sharing one thru AOL. You get a different one every time you dial in.

That feature is called "flood control". It's to prevent bots from taking over a forum too easily and hopefully discourages double-posting also.

or robo-posting?  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 04:02:25 PM
BT - what model did you get? That super duper Qoosmio Toshiba's ranked in the top 4 lappy's yet the Lenovo T61 I have, has a much better wireless card? You should be able to get that replaced at any service center, or Lenovo should be able to overnight you one?

Lappy's are kinky  :-?

I traveled with a Dell (they suck) laptop for several years and used the wireless, never had a card go bad - go figure?

I have a T60. If the wireless card is built in - what would they send me?

well I guess I just went off what's on the product site? As a corporate issue I didn't get all of the manuals with mine but they do list wireless cards on Lenovo's site for the T60? Sorry, I do think you can reach support online even on Sunday, have you tried? I know if you have to pack it up and send it or find a service center, that it's frustrating.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-62764

Thanks, None. I'll have hubby check it out. He fiddled with the stupid thing this morning until he got a splitting headache from it. That's when he stuck in the old card we had from before and gave up.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 29, 2007, 04:04:33 PM
BT - support by phone is open 7 days/week in the US, this is the link to phone support for the T60 http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-4HWSE3

you can fuss at them in sockmonkey talk  :lol:


Dugga-

I can tell you LOVE Aol too  :lol:

Hi Sunny !!

I have to run for now.......!

Hi NONE...don't run too fast...it's HOT outside!  Dugga thanks for explaining what's happening with AOL users....I hope this situation can be rectified.....(fingers crossed)  and THANK YOU BIG TIME for spell check!  LOL


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 04:05:14 PM
When little none and I post at the same time and are both logged in, I do get a message that I can't post for another 15 seconds.....so I do know there are some inhibitors in place for a singular IP address.......how many and if AOL is inclusive, only Dugga can know.
AOL has tens of thousands of IP addresses, so it's not an issue of everyone sharing one thru AOL. You get a different one every time you dial in.

That feature is called "flood control". It's to prevent bots from taking over a forum too easily and hopefully discourages double-posting also.

Just for clarification  :lol:

I am on high-speed, my point was I use IE or Firefox to access SM, not AOL browser. If I even open standard AOL on my laptop, within minutes SM in either IE or Firefox goes white with blue writing, and I am unable to post, log-out, or log-in?

I just wanted to be sure you understood what was happening, I forwarded Klaas the screenshot. I still think it's wacky this would happen?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 04:07:33 PM
oh Dugga one more thing  :lol: but I know the devil is in the details - I can have multiple tabs with multiple sites open, but it's only SM that goes white and freezes? all the rest work fine?


Sunny- so true, it's been so humid and I've been trying to do some touch-up to painting out side and it's been raining too, not my best weekend  :?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 04:20:45 PM
Well since It's a little slower today in the forum, I'm going to get some work done.  I'll be working and lurking.  


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 29, 2007, 04:23:05 PM


Just for clarification  :lol:

I am on high-speed, my point was I use IE or Firefox to access SM, not AOL browser. If I even open standard AOL on my laptop, within minutes SM in either IE or Firefox goes white with blue writing, and I am unable to post, log-out, or log-in?

I just wanted to be sure you understood what was happening, I forwarded Klaas the screenshot. I still think it's wacky this would happen?

I am trying it NONE to see if I can have both open at the same time and retain both screens...will let you know what if anything happens


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 29, 2007, 04:24:30 PM
one more thing...when I post it takes me back to the front page??  not into the forum??? Am I doing something wrong???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 04:30:12 PM
one more thing...when I post it takes me back to the front page??  not into the forum??? Am I doing something wrong???

Read this...if the link works

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1921.0


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 29, 2007, 04:32:58 PM
one more thing...when I post it takes me back to the front page??  not into the forum??? Am I doing something wrong???

Read this...if the link works

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1921.0

thanks buckeye.....I went and changed it (I hope)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: SunnyinTX on July 29, 2007, 04:34:28 PM
It worked. :D..thanks again buckeye.....off to play with my doggies for a while....TTYL


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 04:34:55 PM
one more thing...when I post it takes me back to the front page??  not into the forum??? Am I doing something wrong???

Read this...if the link works

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1921.0

thanks buckeye.....I went and changed it (I hope)

Well you made it back.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 05:38:44 PM
I've always said AOL is a cult. Maybe some will now believe me. I know a cult when I see one.  :-P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 05:43:53 PM
I like AOL :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: crazybabyborg on July 29, 2007, 05:44:41 PM
For the Front Page Caption:

TITO DROWNS and even in death points toward "De Plane!"


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 05:56:09 PM
I like AOL :lol:

you're gettin bery bery sleepee!!! :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dihannah1 on July 29, 2007, 06:20:45 PM
Hi monkeys, just catching and playing around with new features.

Any idea when chat will be here?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dihannah1 on July 29, 2007, 06:22:39 PM
Hi Monkeys,  just catching up and playing with new features.

Any idea when chat will be here?

I like AOL too  :P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dihannah1 on July 29, 2007, 06:23:19 PM
 :shock:  double post?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Anna on July 29, 2007, 06:31:16 PM
Rob,
Do you know much about these so-called choller houses or crack houses?  Are they the same thing?  Are all of them government sponsored or are there also ones by drug addicts not affiliated with the government?

Do you know how they work?  Does a person have to register or can just anybody walk in and stay?

.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 06:48:46 PM
Hi Monkeys,  just catching up and playing with new features.

Any idea when chat will be here?

I like AOL too  :P

Hi Dihannah, not sure when chat will be made available.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 29, 2007, 06:54:51 PM
I always though that crack houses were like flop houses. Abandoned bulidings. I doubt if they have a registration system like the HI Express.   


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dugga on July 29, 2007, 06:58:09 PM
oh Dugga one more thing  :lol: but I know the devil is in the details - I can have multiple tabs with multiple sites open, but it's only SM that goes white and freezes? all the rest work fine?
I saw the screenshot and see what's happening now. In your case, there is a connection problem between your ISP and the new server. May be on your ISP's side, may be on the network's end where we host SM's servers, but most likely it's somewhere in-between. You can get a few pages for a few minutes, but then intermittently when you try to load another page there's some packet loss between you and us. You see some of the data, but not everything needs to load to render the page correctly. The reason it's doing it in all of your browsers is because it's not related to your browser. It's related to the internet connection you're using, and it's connection to us.

I hate to be one of those people who cops out, but quite literally in cases like this, you generally just have to ride it out. If there's a faulty route, the internet is designed to (eventually) route around problem areas... Just think of it as a wreck on the freeway. It slows traffic down, sometimes to a halt. That bottleneck you're having due to packet loss is manifesting itself on your side as a white screen because the style sheets and graphics aren't loading or being confirmed from our end.

If it's still doing it a week from now, there might be a problem, but what you're seeing isn't an issue that's programming related most likely.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dugga on July 29, 2007, 07:00:49 PM
I've always said AOL is a cult. Maybe some will now believe me. I know a cult when I see one.  :-P
I will find humor in your statement as long as it wasn't posted from a Mac!  :smt003


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dugga on July 29, 2007, 07:02:33 PM
Hi Monkeys,  just catching up and playing with new features.

Any idea when chat will be here?

I like AOL too  :P

Hi Dihannah, not sure when chat will be made available.
I ran into some technical issues with the chat implementation. The chat server works fine, but the module that implements chat seamlessly into the forums has some incompatibilities with this version of SMF. I plan to work on that soon, even if it means creating a homebrew solution. It's not far off, though - honest.  8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 29, 2007, 07:04:23 PM
AOL has always had the mindset, it's our way or the highway.  It worked for them in the early days but now they are like having a pigeon in your house.

A couple of years ago I was interested in buying a new computer and had a Dell targeted, but it was hardcoded with a lot of AOL stuff.  I called Dell and told them I'd buy their computer if they'd strip off anything and everything associated with AOL.  They refused siting contractual agreements so guess what, I didn't buy the Dell.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IndyDan on July 29, 2007, 07:05:47 PM
I like AOL :lol:

HA!  So you're the one.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 07:10:13 PM
So.  Is everyone taking a nap?  I just woke up from mine and decided to ask for a little something from the Monkey Gods.  Please rearrange those smileys and remove the dupicate ones so I can find my rolling eyes one or else I will need to create a code kinda like this...REM (rolling eyes smiley).  Thanks. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 07:11:49 PM
Rob,
Do you know much about these so-called choller houses or crack houses?  Are they the same thing?  Are all of them government sponsored or are there also ones by drug addicts not affiliated with the government?

Do you know how they work?  Does a person have to register or can just anybody walk in and stay?

.

Anna- the choller houses are not what might you would think. There are 'crack houses' where the chollers smoke crack and use other drugs. We all know that. Drugs are sold and prostitution occurs in exchange for drugs. It's the element that you have heard of when some tried to find Natalee in one of these dumps. This was just a story to buy more time and to scramble Beth and Dave.

Then there are the government sponsored 'choller houses'. These appear to be a place for the chollers go to to get cleaned up. Like a rehab. What their treatment program really is .. who knows. Most likely a bed for the night and they're back on the street in the morning. This is a major cause of the skyrocketing AIDS rate in the Carribean. In order to get a definitive answer to what occurs in the 'treatment' end of these homes is really only able to be answered by Marisol Trump. Only she knows the guidelines and the money involved to address this problem.

Problem- the newest choller house is situated in downtown Oranjestad. Right smack in the middle of the tourist areas. And right near the areas where people getting off the cruise ships. This is like opening the lions cage door each morning and expecting no one to be harmed as predator roams the streets. Again, another bad decision by the Aruban Authorities.

No one wants a heroin or crack rehab or maximum security prison in their neighborhood, but it has to be somewhere and it should be situated away from where people could be harmed when someone goes off the wagon and needs a fix.

Heroin, Crack and Meth are lifetime drugs. Getting someone off of these is nearly impossible and it takes a serious commitment by the user to want to change their life. Most do not succeed.

Placing a rehab in the downtown area of a major tourist destination is just plain stupid in my opinion.

Let me ask you -  would you place a child abusers halfway house next to an elementary school?



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 07:18:56 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 07:19:59 PM
Rob,
Do you know much about these so-called choller houses or crack houses?  Are they the same thing?  Are all of them government sponsored or are there also ones by drug addicts not affiliated with the government?

Do you know how they work?  Does a person have to register or can just anybody walk in and stay?

.

Anna- the choller houses are not what might you would think. There are 'crack houses' where the chollers smoke crack and use other drugs. We all know that. Drugs are sold and prostitution occurs in exchange for drugs. It's the element that you have heard of when some tried to find Natalee in one of these dumps. This was just a story to buy more time and to scramble Beth and Dave.

Then there are the government sponsored 'choller houses'. These appear to be a place for the chollers go to to get cleaned up. Like a rehab. What their treatment program really is .. who knows. Most likely a bed for the night and they're back on the street in the morning. This is a major cause of the skyrocketing AIDS rate in the Carribean. In order to get a definitive answer to what occurs in the 'treatment' end of these homes is really only able to be answered by Marisol Trump. Only she knows the guidelines and the money involved to address this problem.

Problem- the newest choller house is situated in downtown Oranjestad. Right smack in the middle of the tourist areas. And right near the areas where people getting off the cruise ships. This is like opening the lions cage door each morning and expecting no one to be harmed as predator roams the streets. Again, another bad decision by the Aruban Authorities.

No one wants a heroin or crack rehab or maximum security prison in their neighborhood, but it has to be somewhere and it should be situated away from where people could be harmed when someone goes off the wagon and needs a fix.

Heroin, Crack and Meth are lifetime drugs. Getting someone off of these is nearly impossible and it takes a serious commitment by the user to want to change their life. Most do not succeed.

Placing a rehab in the downtown area of a major tourist destination is just plain stupid in my opinion.

Let me ask you -  would you place a child abusers halfway house next to an elementary school?



edit to add- Trump and Booshi Wever would be the two who know what this program entails.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 07:25:32 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.
Wasn't it July they drained the pond?

Also the blonde hair on the duct tape was found in Boca Tortuga.  That's the video we saw the ranger with the cloth like Natalee's top.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 07:30:06 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.
Wasn't it July they drained the pond?

Also the blonde hair on the duct tape was found in Boca Tortuga.  That's the video we saw the ranger with the cloth like Natalee's top.

Thanks.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Ree on July 29, 2007, 07:36:39 PM
I'm not sure if I'm doing a screen capture correctly, but here goes.  Anybody know what this conversation at BFN is all about?


Who is Brough's friend that you talk about?

Sorry, PITA...I won't say.

Just so "odd" that a head Monkey knew the photos I posted of "looking like the guy I saw in Savaneta'....were not Lorenzo....

They knew it was not Lorenzo.
They knew it was Brough's friend.
Months before Lorenzo's arrest.
Sometimes our "arrogance", our "need to be right" gives away who we really are.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 07:38:26 PM
I'm not sure if I'm doing a screen capture correctly, but here goes.  Anybody know what this conversation at BFN is all about?


Who is Brough's friend that you talk about?

Sorry, PITA...I won't say.

Just so "odd" that a head Monkey knew the photos I posted of "looking like the guy I saw in Savaneta'....were not Lorenzo....

They knew it was not Lorenzo.
They knew it was Brough's friend.
Months before Lorenzo's arrest.
Sometimes our "arrogance", our "need to be right" gives away who we really are.

It's about a member of BFN (Opus) that has an overactive imagination.  That's about as nicely as I can put it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 07:39:40 PM
I was out looking at the new FP.  Looks neat too. What's a digg?  I see there are several of our monkeys with their noses pressed up against the window pane.  Maybe we should go out on occasion and visit them so they won't be lonely until they get to come back inside. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Anna on July 29, 2007, 07:40:46 PM
Rob,
Thank you for the info on the chollar houses.  I seem to remember a photo of one in one of the Aruban papers clutching his BoomBox as though it were his only earthly possession.  Think it might have been when some of them went on a hunger strike but the photo was taken at night.

So I assume even the government sponsored choller houses would have music and possibly loud music.  Non-government once might even consider themselves a party of sorts.  The government once fly the Aruban flag which has the single star, am I correct about that?

Just thinking outloud a bit.

.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 07:41:29 PM
I was out looking at the new FP.  Looks neat too. What's a digg?  I see there are several of our monkeys with their noses pressed up against the window pane.  Maybe we should go out on occasion and visit them so they won't be lonely until they get to come back inside. 

Yep, there are several that can't get in.  I really feel bad for them.  Most have tried everything under the sun and nothing works.  Hopefully the problem will resolve itself soon like Dugga said.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Ree on July 29, 2007, 07:42:06 PM
I'm not sure if I'm doing a screen capture correctly, but here goes.  Anybody know what this conversation at BFN is all about?


Who is Brough's friend that you talk about?

Sorry, PITA...I won't say.

Just so "odd" that a head Monkey knew the photos I posted of "looking like the guy I saw in Savaneta'....were not Lorenzo....

They knew it was not Lorenzo.
They knew it was Brough's friend.
Months before Lorenzo's arrest.
Sometimes our "arrogance", our "need to be right" gives away who we really are.

It's about a member of BFN (Opus) that has an overactive imagination.  That's about as nicely as I can put it.
Thanks.  I saw he got smacked a couple of times.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 07:42:08 PM
I'm not sure if I'm doing a screen capture correctly, but here goes.  Anybody know what this conversation at BFN is all about?


Who is Brough's friend that you talk about?

Sorry, PITA...I won't say.

Just so "odd" that a head Monkey knew the photos I posted of "looking like the guy I saw in Savaneta'....were not Lorenzo....

They knew it was not Lorenzo.
They knew it was Brough's friend.
Months before Lorenzo's arrest.
Sometimes our "arrogance", our "need to be right" gives away who we really are.

It's about a member of BFN (Opus) that has an overactive imagination.  That's about as nicely as I can put it.

Interesting...now I know who Opus is....very interesting indeed.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 07:44:55 PM
Rob
Who is this Marisol person?  Does he hold an office or something? Just wondering. TIA


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 07:45:54 PM
Lala's you have no idea


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: IBE on July 29, 2007, 07:46:37 PM
I've always said AOL is a cult. Maybe some will now believe me. I know a cult when I see one.  :-P
I will find humor in your statement as long as it wasn't posted from a Mac!  :smt003

Oh HO HO HO let it go


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 29, 2007, 07:47:52 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.
Poppa Kalpoe *buying* the CyberCafe.  IMO


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 07:49:36 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.
Poppa Kalpoe *buying* the CyberCafe.  IMO

TES, Dave and Red at the landfill digging... TES was there looking for Natalee.  I know because Red was there during our anniversary -


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 07:49:45 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.
Poppa Kalpoe *buying* the CyberCafe.  IMO

The Kalpoes were released in July also.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Anna on July 29, 2007, 07:50:03 PM
I'm not sure if I'm doing a screen capture correctly, but here goes.  Anybody know what this conversation at BFN is all about?


Who is Brough's friend that you talk about?

Sorry, PITA...I won't say.

Just so "odd" that a head Monkey knew the photos I posted of "looking like the guy I saw in Savaneta'....were not Lorenzo....

They knew it was not Lorenzo.
They knew it was Brough's friend.
Months before Lorenzo's arrest.
Sometimes our "arrogance", our "need to be right" gives away who we really are.

It's about a member of BFN (Opus) that has an overactive imagination.  That's about as nicely as I can put it.

Interesting...now I know who Opus is....very interesting indeed.

Who is Opus and why is it interesting?

TIA
.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 07:51:37 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.
Poppa Kalpoe *buying* the CyberCafe.  IMO

Wasn't that August 2005?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 07:52:27 PM
Anna - Opus used to post at SM with the name Florida.  Email me if you want me to go into more detail.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 29, 2007, 07:52:44 PM
Ree;

Opus is a "She" 8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 07:52:56 PM
Lala's you have no idea

If you insist.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 07:54:01 PM
Lala's you have no idea

If you insist.  :lol:

Told you I knew.   8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 07:54:14 PM
I was out looking at the new FP.  Looks neat too. What's a digg?  I see there are several of our monkeys with their noses pressed up against the window pane.  Maybe we should go out on occasion and visit them so they won't be lonely until they get to come back inside. 

Yep, there are several that can't get in.  I really feel bad for them.  Most have tried everything under the sun and nothing works.  Hopefully the problem will resolve itself soon like Dugga said.

Easy is threatening to go over and post at RU cause at least he can get in there.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 07:54:24 PM
Anna - Opus used to post at SM with the name Florida.  Email me if you want me to go into more detail.

all I can say is wow....  :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 07:55:35 PM
I was out looking at the new FP.  Looks neat too. What's a digg?  I see there are several of our monkeys with their noses pressed up against the window pane.  Maybe we should go out on occasion and visit them so they won't be lonely until they get to come back inside. 

Yep, there are several that can't get in.  I really feel bad for them.  Most have tried everything under the sun and nothing works.  Hopefully the problem will resolve itself soon like Dugga said.

Easy is threatening to go over and post at RU cause at least he can get in there.  :lol:

Is he serious? :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 07:55:53 PM
Anna - Opus used to post at SM with the name Florida.  Email me if you want me to go into more detail.

all I can say is wow....  :shock:

Mrs. Red - you can email me too if you want, LOL  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 29, 2007, 07:56:01 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.
Poppa Kalpoe *buying* the CyberCafe.  IMO

Wasn't that August 2005?
I will defer to you on this one Klaas. July/August...the timing of this purchase was most curious.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Anna on July 29, 2007, 07:56:50 PM
Well, that's what I thought at first but some of the views held are 180 degrees from those presented when posting here so was confusing.  People are entitled to change their minds, however, I suppose.
.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 07:57:59 PM
I was out looking at the new FP.  Looks neat too. What's a digg?  I see there are several of our monkeys with their noses pressed up against the window pane.  Maybe we should go out on occasion and visit them so they won't be lonely until they get to come back inside. 

Yep, there are several that can't get in.  I really feel bad for them.  Most have tried everything under the sun and nothing works.  Hopefully the problem will resolve itself soon like Dugga said.

Easy is threatening to go over and post at RU cause at least he can get in there.  :lol:

Is he serious? :shock:

Nah - he's just being as silly as he normally is.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 08:01:02 PM
Klaas

In the old days, how authentic were the JustinT and MBHS05 posters??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:02:05 PM
Klaas

In the old days, how authentic were the JustinT and MBHS05 posters??

MBHS05 I believe was very authentic, not positive on JustinT.  I think it was JustinT and Countrymoon that were outed as not being who they claimed to be.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:03:08 PM
Well, that's what I thought at first but some of the views held are 180 degrees from those presented when posting here so was confusing.  People are entitled to change their minds, however, I suppose.
.

Anna - no question who it is, honest.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 08:04:24 PM
Well, that's what I thought at first but some of the views held are 180 degrees from those presented when posting here so was confusing.  People are entitled to change their minds, however, I suppose.
.

Anna

You're making me nervous on the "music" at the choller house and the "star" on the flag.  What are you thinking?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:07:05 PM
Lala's did you see my July reply?  TES was there doing their search....


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 29, 2007, 08:07:25 PM
Is anyone besides me having issues posting here?????  I post and it brings me to the home page, then I cant get back to the LCD, so I have to exit out and start all over again.....It is so slow for pages to load up too so I'll never be able to go back and read at this point.

Thanks,
Ms Vada


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:08:16 PM
Anna - Opus used to post at SM with the name Florida.  Email me if you want me to go into more detail.

all I can say is wow....  :shock:

Mrs. Red - you can email me too if you want, LOL  :lol:

i was wowing because I remember...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:09:30 PM
Is anyone besides me having issues posting here?????  I post and it brings me to the home page, then I cant get back to the LCD, so I have to exit out and start all over again.....It is so slow for pages to load up too so I'll never be able to go back and read at this point.

Thanks,
Ms Vada

Ms Vada... I don't know how to do the screen shot but Klaas posted all the info that makes that go away in the lounge...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:11:04 PM
Could someone tell me what the most significant happening concerning the Natalee Holloway case occurred during the month of July?  I am having one of those things called a senior moment...not that I am  senior...just a moment.
Poppa Kalpoe *buying* the CyberCafe.  IMO

Wasn't that August 2005?
I will defer to you on this one Klaas. July/August...the timing of this purchase was most curious.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/CyberzoneOwner.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:12:21 PM
Is anyone besides me having issues posting here?????  I post and it brings me to the home page, then I cant get back to the LCD, so I have to exit out and start all over again.....It is so slow for pages to load up too so I'll never be able to go back and read at this point.

Thanks,
Ms Vada

Ms Vada... I don't know how to do the screen shot but Klaas posted all the info that makes that go away in the lounge...

Ms Vada - make sure these boxes are checked in your profile:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/Profile2.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Anna on July 29, 2007, 08:15:41 PM
Well, that's what I thought at first but some of the views held are 180 degrees from those presented when posting here so was confusing.  People are entitled to change their minds, however, I suppose.
.

Anna

You're making me nervous on the "music" at the choller house and the "star" on the flag.  What are you thinking?

Sorry, Buckeye, don't mean to make you nervous.  Just thinking of places that might consider themselves as a party with loud music, drugs and a star out front on an unpaved road as in under construction.  I promise I wasn't thinking anything else, honest.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Icons%20and%20Smilies/gdkifmqq.gif)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 08:16:36 PM
I started a Topic thread (at least I hope I did...guess I should have checked) with copies of old posts by MB kids.  Don't know how authentic, but this is a sample from JustinT:

*Natalee met Joran that Sunday night at the casino. She briefly introduced herself to Joran because she was sitting at the same game table. It was due to politeness, not because she was interested in him.
*He implies that Joran was already at C&C's when they showed up. This surprised them because Joran told the MB kids that no one went to C&C's on Sunday.
*He said they recognized Joran because he had been gambling at HI all week.
*He said no one knew Deepak or Satish because they had never been around before.
*He stresses that Natalee was anti-drugs and did not drink a lot.
*Natalee had not hooked up with anyone that week and definitely was not promiscuous.


I knew we had questions and this is the best I could find.

Now, see who can find the Thread first.... :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Anna on July 29, 2007, 08:21:21 PM
O/T
I finally figured out how to read without being shown as online.  You just log out if your profile does not provide the place to check to conceal online status.  You can still read, just not post without logging back in.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 08:22:11 PM
Rob
Who is this Marisol person?  Does he hold an office or something? Just wondering. TIA

Principal Government Officials
Governor General--Fredis J. Refunjol
Prime Minister--Nelson O. Oduber
Deputy Prime Minister--Marisol J. Tromp
Minister of Labor, Culture, Integration, Community Development & Sports--T.F. Ramon Lee
Minister of Finance & Economic Affairs--Nilo J.J. Swaen
Minister of General Affairs and Foreign Relations--Nelson O. Oduber
Minister of Social Affairs and Public Works--Marisol J. Tromp
Minister of Public Health and Environment--Candelario A.S.D. Wever
Minister of Justice--Hyacintho R. Croes
Minister of Tourism & Transportation--Edison Briesen
Minister Plenipotentiary to The Hague--F. Walfrido Croes
Minister Plenipotentiary to Washington, DC--D. Henry Baarh
President, Bank of Aruba--Rob Henriquez
Attorney General--Theresa Croes-Fernandes Pedra


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 08:22:51 PM
btw- he is a she.  :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:22:55 PM
O/T
I finally figured out how to read without being shown as online.  You just log out if your profile does not provide the place to check to conceal online status.  You can still read, just not post without logging back in.



you can also adjust that in your profile to never show status ...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 08:23:23 PM
MsVada

If you want to speed read to catch up, hit the Print button, on the bottom right.  All posts for the whole thread can be scrolled (but in black and white and no avatars).


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 29, 2007, 08:24:51 PM
Thanks Klaas. August 29th it is. The Kalpoes were re-arrested 3 days before.

Strange time for a big purchase by the father Kalpoe. All those legal bills must have been piling up at the same time...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 08:25:07 PM
O/T
I finally figured out how to read without being shown as online.  You just log out if your profile does not provide the place to check to conceal online status.  You can still read, just not post without logging back in.



you can also adjust that in your profile to never show status ...

I believe, some of us, do not have that box/button.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:25:17 PM
I started a Topic thread (at least I hope I did...guess I should have checked) with copies of old posts by MB kids.  Don't know how authentic, but this is a sample from JustinT:

*Natalee met Joran that Sunday night at the casino. She briefly introduced herself to Joran because she was sitting at the same game table. It was due to politeness, not because she was interested in him.
*He implies that Joran was already at C&C's when they showed up. This surprised them because Joran told the MB kids that no one went to C&C's on Sunday.
*He said they recognized Joran because he had been gambling at HI all week.
*He said no one knew Deepak or Satish because they had never been around before.
*He stresses that Natalee was anti-drugs and did not drink a lot.
*Natalee had not hooked up with anyone that week and definitely was not promiscuous.


I knew we had questions and this is the best I could find.

Now, see who can find the Thread first.... :lol:

Buckeye.. I think that JustinT was a fake... MBH05 wasn't... one tip off... jvds didn't get there until 30 minutes before closing... (or do we know this as a fact?)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Anna on July 29, 2007, 08:25:47 PM
O/T
I finally figured out how to read without being shown as online.  You just log out if your profile does not provide the place to check to conceal online status.  You can still read, just not post without logging back in.



you can also adjust that in your profile to never show status ...

My profile does not have the line and checkbox for it, only has it for email.  Not sure why.  Someone else said theirs didn't either, think it was AZSunny.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 08:25:55 PM
Lala's did you see my July reply?  TES was there doing their search....

The search of what?  The landfill? Do you remember?  The quarry was in June.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:26:59 PM
O/T
I finally figured out how to read without being shown as online.  You just log out if your profile does not provide the place to check to conceal online status.  You can still read, just not post without logging back in.



you can also adjust that in your profile to never show status ...

I believe, some of us, do not have that box/button.

I don't have anything y'all don't... I am just a regular monkey! YOu have go into your profile and change it though...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:27:38 PM
Thanks Klaas. August 29th it is. The Kalpoes were re-arrested 3 days before.

Strange time for a big purchase by the father Kalpoe. All those legal bills must have been piling up at the same time...

YEP, and according to people in Aruba no money was exchanged?????  Go figure? :roll: :smt119


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:28:01 PM
Lala's did you see my July reply?  TES was there doing their search....

The search of what?  The landfill? Do you remember?  The quarry was in June.

Landfill... reason I know for sure beyond a doubt?  Red missed our anniversary that year... (not that it wasn't fine with me, but it's how I remember)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 08:28:30 PM
Well, that's what I thought at first but some of the views held are 180 degrees from those presented when posting here so was confusing.  People are entitled to change their minds, however, I suppose.
.

Anna

You're making me nervous on the "music" at the choller house and the "star" on the flag.  What are you thinking?

Sorry, Buckeye, don't mean to make you nervous.  Just thinking of places that might consider themselves as a party with loud music, drugs and a star out front on an unpaved road as in under construction.  I promise I wasn't thinking anything else, honest.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Icons%20and%20Smilies/gdkifmqq.gif)

someone said 'look under the star'.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 08:29:14 PM
Again, what was the most significant thing that happened around July4th?  Maybe I should have given a date the first time. 

Was TES there then?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Ree on July 29, 2007, 08:29:31 PM
Ree;

Opus is a "She" 8-)
Any connection to "The Skank"?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:32:13 PM
Again, what was the most significant thing that happened around July4th?  Maybe I should have given a date the first time. 

Was TES there then?

JULY 4TH

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/07/04/breaking-news-kalpoe-brothers-released/


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:32:51 PM
Again, what was the most significant thing that happened around July4th?  Maybe I should have given a date the first time. 

Was TES there then?
They were there the last half of July.... July 4th didn't they have a protest against beth?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:33:35 PM
JULY 3RD

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/07/03/breaking-3-suspects-in-are-doing-reenactment/

Breaking: 3 Suspects in are Doing Reenactment
 (Edit Post)
Fox has reported that the Aruban Police have taken the threes boys, Joran Van Der Sloot, Satish, and Deepak Kalpoe, have been taken to the beach outside of the Marriott Hotel.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:34:27 PM
O/T
I finally figured out how to read without being shown as online.  You just log out if your profile does not provide the place to check to conceal online status.  You can still read, just not post without logging back in.



you can also adjust that in your profile to never show status ...

My profile does not have the line and checkbox for it, only has it for email.  Not sure why.  Someone else said theirs didn't either, think it was AZSunny.


I looked, I don't either... but I know I saw it somewhere... :???:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:34:50 PM
JULY 5TH

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/07/05/beth-twitty-press-conference/


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 08:35:53 PM
Rob
Who is this Marisol person?  Does he hold an office or something? Just wondering. TIA

Principal Government Officials
Governor General--Fredis J. Refunjol
Prime Minister--Nelson O. Oduber
Deputy Prime Minister--Marisol J. Tromp
Minister of Labor, Culture, Integration, Community Development & Sports--T.F. Ramon Lee
Minister of Finance & Economic Affairs--Nilo J.J. Swaen
Minister of General Affairs and Foreign Relations--Nelson O. Oduber
Minister of Social Affairs and Public Works--Marisol J. Tromp
Minister of Public Health and Environment--Candelario A.S.D. Wever
Minister of Justice--Hyacintho R. Croes
Minister of Tourism & Transportation--Edison Briesen
Minister Plenipotentiary to The Hague--F. Walfrido Croes
Minister Plenipotentiary to Washington, DC--D. Henry Baarh
President, Bank of Aruba--Rob Henriquez
Attorney General--Theresa Croes-Fernandes Pedra

Thanks.   I wonder how much power a Deputy Prime Minister has?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:36:31 PM
It's this box under your email addy in your profile.  I have it but I'm not sure if everyone does:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub2/ProfileEmail.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:37:15 PM
Again, what was the most significant thing that happened around July4th?  Maybe I should have given a date the first time. 

Was TES there then?
They were there the last half of July.... July 4th didn't they have a protest against beth?

Protest against Beth was July 5th I believe.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 29, 2007, 08:37:53 PM
This is Marisol Tromps bio.

http://www.minszi.aw/biografia.htm

Has anyone else noticed that ht Nelson Oduber bio disappeared and is only 4 lines long now?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:43:21 PM
Ree;

Opus is a "She" 8-)
Any connection to "The Skank"?

No, I don't think so  :smile:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 29, 2007, 08:43:40 PM
Ree;

Opus is a "She" 8-)
Any connection to "The Skank"?

I don't know the skank,  I do know who Opus is,  I had many problems with her on this site as well as other sites.  So in order to not have to deal with her, I stay away from bfn :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 29, 2007, 08:45:53 PM
Thanks Klaas, Mrs Red and Buckeye for your help.  I have one issue solved.  I'll work on the slowness later,  It is taking over 30 seconds for the pages to load, which is weird for me, never had the problem before. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:46:22 PM
Ree;

Opus is a "She" 8-)
Any connection to "The Skank"?

I don't know the skank,  I do know who Opus is,  I had many problems with her on this site as well as other sites.  So in order to not have to deal with her, I stay away from bfn :-D

Not sure but I think this is the "skank": :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/JuliaWitch.gif)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 08:49:42 PM
Ree;

Opus is a "She" 8-)
Any connection to "The Skank"?
No.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:51:14 PM
Or this skank  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/RenfroSwat.gif)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 29, 2007, 08:52:44 PM
Or this skank  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/RenfroSwat.gif)



Oh,  THAT skank!   :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Ree on July 29, 2007, 08:53:32 PM
Ree;

Opus is a "She" 8-)
Any connection to "The Skank"?

I don't know the skank,  I do know who Opus is,  I had many problems with her on this site as well as other sites.  So in order to not have to deal with her, I stay away from bfn :-D

Not sure but I think this is the "skank": :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/JuliaWitch.gif)
The one, the only!!!!!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 08:53:41 PM
Or this skank  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/RenfroSwat.gif)

 :lol: :lol: my personal fave of the skank  :lol: :lol:

FYI, I did email extensively with MBH05 and she was the real deal. I also verified who she was, she was not on the trip but her information was solid.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: GreatOwl on July 29, 2007, 08:55:02 PM
what is the new video on u tube all about.   anyone know.   ???


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:55:32 PM
Or this skank  :lol:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/RenfroSwat.gif)

 :lol: :lol: my personal fave of the skank  :lol: :lol:

FYI, I did email extensively with MBH05 and she was the real deal. I also verified who she was, she was not on the trip but her information was solid.

I thought she was real... sweet girl as I recall...

JustinT and CountryMoon were both fakes... as I recall.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 08:55:39 PM
why can't Easy get it, or should I not ask? Is he on dial-up? AOL?

I was wondering where on earth he is ???

I also keep getting a prompt when I sign in, that I have a private message?  :eek: do we even have PM's ?  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 08:56:40 PM
mrs son has even met MBH05, she has an older sister he knows


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 08:57:51 PM
what is the new video on u tube all about.   anyone know.   ???
Are you talking about Rob's new video??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 08:59:13 PM
why can't Easy get it, or should I not ask? Is he on dial-up? AOL?

I was wondering where on earth he is ???

I also keep getting a prompt when I sign in, that I have a private message?  :eek: do we even have PM's ?  :lol:

EASY is dialup AOL

Not sure if the PM system is working yet, I think Dugga may be playing around with it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 09:00:42 PM
mrs son has even met MBH05, she has an older sister he knows

how funny, what a small world!  I remember her posts... and Dash's ... they paint such a different story that others would have us believe!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 09:01:06 PM
what is the new video on u tube all about.   anyone know.   ???

Probably either Rob's or Carpes.  I'd bet you can view either at Rob's site.  Do you need the link? 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 29, 2007, 09:04:14 PM
Opus is a lady. I think the intention is /was good. She was in Aruba and spoke of being with Art Wood. Some of the connect the dots were shaky,  :eek: :eek:IMO.
She does care very much about a solution to this case from what I have read. So I can't be critical of her. I can and will criticize people in Aruba or where ever who just make things up that are meant to hurt or trash the victim or the family of the victim. Spell check = good...  


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 09:06:44 PM
mrs son has even met MBH05, she has an older sister he knows

how funny, what a small world!  I remember her posts... and Dash's ... they paint such a different story that others would have us believe!

yep, she facebooked son and they started emailing, then about two weeks later he was invited to a formal where he met her sister? it is a small world.....

MBH05's father is an attorney in MB as well, she was purely harassed by some at RU which frightened me for her at the time. She really did try to defend Natalee, as did I think her parents. Her parents were also quite aware she was posting here too.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: GreatOwl on July 29, 2007, 09:12:00 PM
what is the new video on u tube all about.   anyone know.   ???

Probably either Rob's or Carpes.  I'd bet you can view either at Rob's site.  Do you need the link? 

boy this system is buggy tonight.  I can't stay logged on.   

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/07/natalee-holloway-case-why-does-joran.html

This is the video I am referring to.   It was posted on u tube this afternoon.  tried to get to it again but the users account has been suspended.





Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: GreatOwl on July 29, 2007, 09:13:30 PM
why can't Easy get it, or should I not ask? Is he on dial-up? AOL?

I was wondering where on earth he is ???

I also keep getting a prompt when I sign in, that I have a private message?  :eek: do we even have PM's ?  :lol:

EASY is dialup AOL

Not sure if the PM system is working yet, I think Dugga may be playing around with it.

yes, I keep getting an alert for private messages but I know we don't have any.  it also keeps kicking me out of the forum every time I post.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 09:18:01 PM
why can't Easy get it, or should I not ask? Is he on dial-up? AOL?

I was wondering where on earth he is ???

I also keep getting a prompt when I sign in, that I have a private message?  :eek: do we even have PM's ?  :lol:

EASY is dialup AOL

Not sure if the PM system is working yet, I think Dugga may be playing around with it.

yes, I keep getting an alert for private messages but I know we don't have any.  it also keeps kicking me out of the forum every time I post.

Klaas posted the instructions on making the kicking out go away... go back a page or so... or in the lounge... I don't know how to explain it clear or I would!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 09:20:58 PM
Great Owl and KatGram

I think I can see your email on that little face above your person (on the left).


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 09:21:23 PM
what is the new video on u tube all about.   anyone know.   ???

Probably either Rob's or Carpes.  I'd bet you can view either at Rob's site.  Do you need the link? 

boy this system is buggy tonight.  I can't stay logged on.   

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/07/natalee-holloway-case-why-does-joran.html

This is the video I am referring to.   It was posted on u tube this afternoon.  tried to get to it again but the users account has been suspended.





GO... Klaas can help you with the settings on the fourum... 

the video was a montage of Aruban newspapers that was set to some gangsta rap... it was very graphic... but it got the point across.. it was a good video.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: GreatOwl on July 29, 2007, 09:22:13 PM
why can't Easy get it, or should I not ask? Is he on dial-up? AOL?

I was wondering where on earth he is ???

I also keep getting a prompt when I sign in, that I have a private message?  :eek: do we even have PM's ?  :lol:

EASY is dialup AOL

Not sure if the PM system is working yet, I think Dugga may be playing around with it.

yes, I keep getting an alert for private messages but I know we don't have any.  it also keeps kicking me out of the forum every time I post.

Klaas posted the instructions on making the kicking out go away... go back a page or so... or in the lounge... I don't know how to explain it clear or I would!

Thank you , I will try... :-D  Its a little like trying to chase meices in a tornado.   I keeps getting blown away.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 09:23:12 PM
Great Owl and KatGram

I think I can see your email on that little face above your person (on the left).

YES.... OWL & KAT...go to your settings and check the option that says to hide email address. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Ree on July 29, 2007, 09:23:48 PM
what is the new video on u tube all about.   anyone know.   ???

Probably either Rob's or Carpes.  I'd bet you can view either at Rob's site.  Do you need the link? 

boy this system is buggy tonight.  I can't stay logged on.   

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/07/natalee-holloway-case-why-does-joran.html

This is the video I am referring to.   It was posted on u tube this afternoon.  tried to get to it again but the users account has been suspended.




I know Carpe is so dedicated to the cause, but I've never been able to see anything in these photos.  Well, actually, I did think I saw a robot with an AK47 in this last one.  You think.....


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 09:24:44 PM
GreatOwl and KatGram

Read these directions

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1921.0


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 29, 2007, 09:26:36 PM
Great Owl and KatGram

I think I can see your email on that little face above your person (on the left).
Yes, that is a Yahoo email I set up for SM, it's ok, not the house one.
But thank you for noticing it, wouldn't want to have my house thing out for public use. If it gets to be a problem, I can delete it. TY again.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 09:26:46 PM
what is the new video on u tube all about.   anyone know.   ???

Probably either Rob's or Carpes.  I'd bet you can view either at Rob's site.  Do you need the link? 

boy this system is buggy tonight.  I can't stay logged on.   

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/07/natalee-holloway-case-why-does-joran.html

This is the video I am referring to.   It was posted on u tube this afternoon.  tried to get to it again but the users account has been suspended.





GO - It's working for me right now.  This video is a compilation of Carpes screen shots of the bag in the pond.

The one Mrs. Red is referring to is one Rob put together of accidents and stuff in Aruba.


Title: Q
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 09:28:13 PM
what is the new video on u tube all about.   anyone know.   ???

Probably either Rob's or Carpes.  I'd bet you can view either at Rob's site.  Do you need the link? 

boy this system is buggy tonight.  I can't stay logged on.   

http://zoltanzion.blogspot.com/2007/07/natalee-holloway-case-why-does-joran.html

This is the video I am referring to.   It was posted on u tube this afternoon.  tried to get to it again but the users account has been suspended.





GO - It's working for me right now.  This video is a compilation of Carpes screen shots of the bag in the pond.

The one Mrs. Red is referring to is one Rob put together of accidents and stuff in Aruba.

OOPS. I just saw that... sorry!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Buckeye on July 29, 2007, 09:28:45 PM
Great Owl and KatGram

I think I can see your email on that little face above your person (on the left).
Yes, that is a Yahoo email I set up for SM, it's ok, not the house one.
But thank you for noticing it, wouldn't want to have my house thing out for public use. If it gets to be a problem, I can delete it. TY again.

Sorry  :oops: It's the first I've seen the little face.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 29, 2007, 09:49:53 PM
It is a good thing to notice these things. With the new forum, we had to change some things in our profiles, I had to get a new password. A few pages ago, Klaasend did a post about the email thing. I doubt if any one of us wants our home e-mail addy out there.  :smt117 
Oh, we still have our little extra smileys. Robots is out catching a chicken to make chicken pies. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 09:50:00 PM
are we talking?  Am I lost?? where am I ??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: GreatOwl on July 29, 2007, 09:52:32 PM
Great Owl and KatGram

I think I can see your email on that little face above your person (on the left).

YES.... OWL & KAT...go to your settings and check the option that says to hide email address. 

Thank you for noticing, but I will leave it that way.  I have a very sophisticated spam and abuse filtering program so I do not worry about anyone trying to get to me.  In fact you are the only one on this mailing this so far and anyone else that wishes to be will need to return a "challenge" e-mail to have me activate.   thanks again


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 09:52:40 PM
are we talking?  Am I lost?? where am I ??
You're on page 39 :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 09:53:00 PM
are we talking?  Am I lost?? where am I ??

 :lol: :lol: you are here mrs , we're all still here, I guess.......should I pinch myself?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2007, 09:54:35 PM
I have finally arrived!!  :)

Thanks to all those who were doing their best to get me here ... computer terminology just goes over my head.

Janet


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 09:55:20 PM
I have finally arrived!!  :)

Thanks to all those who were doing their best to get me here ... computer terminology just goes over my head.

Janet

Glad you made it Tamikosmom.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 09:56:03 PM
What are you guys doing?  Why is everyone in slow motion tonight?  Doesn't anyone want to talk?  I am getting bored.  If someone doesn't say something soon, I am going to fall asleep.  I don't see my RES (that's rolling eyes smiley).  Hey, where's the winkie?  I can't see it either.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: nonesuche on July 29, 2007, 09:57:51 PM
welcome tamikosmom - we were waiting for your ducky to arrive !

I think I"m going to head to bed early, tomorrow is Monday all day long........ugh !

rest well everyone !


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 09:57:56 PM
I have finally arrived!!  :)

Thanks to all those who were doing their best to get me here ... computer terminology just goes over my head.

Janet

You're back!  Ducky too.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 09:58:47 PM
What are you guys doing?  Why is everyone in slow motion tonight?  Doesn't anyone want to talk?  I am getting bored.  If someone doesn't say something soon, I am going to fall asleep.  I don't see my RES (that's rolling eyes smiley).  Hey, where's the winkie?  I can't see it either.
;-) :roll:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 09:59:11 PM
welcome tamikosmom - we were waiting for your ducky to arrive !

I think I"m going to head to bed early, tomorrow is Monday all day long........ugh !

rest well everyone !

Night nosey...er, I mean Nonesy.  ( I'd give you a winkie but they are in the more section).


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Mere on July 29, 2007, 09:59:41 PM
Where am I..... :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 10:00:28 PM
What are you guys doing?  Why is everyone in slow motion tonight?  Doesn't anyone want to talk?  I am getting bored.  If someone doesn't say something soon, I am going to fall asleep.  I don't see my RES (that's rolling eyes smiley).  Hey, where's the winkie?  I can't see it either.
;-) :roll:

You can't fool me...I know they are in the more section. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: GreatOwl on July 29, 2007, 10:01:02 PM
I kicked myself out permanently and had to be reactivated....   :shock:

I changed my e-mail address so that it runs through my spam filters.    now I need to go looking for some meice pudding... I worked up an appetite getting that new filter installed and trying to figure out the new things on SM :P


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 10:01:11 PM
Where am I..... :lol:

Memere!  Hey, where you been?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 10:02:10 PM
Where am I..... :lol:

You made it :D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2007, 10:03:22 PM
Klaas ... thanks for taking such good care of Ducky while I was locked out of the cage.  When I considered that he may be given to another Monkey ... I knew that I had to get back inside the cage ... one way or another.   :-D

Janet


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:06:47 PM
Klaas ... thanks for taking such good care of Ducky while I was locked out of the cage.  When I considered that he may be given to another Monkey ... I knew that I had to get back inside the cage ... one way or another.   :-D

Janet

OMG, you made it back!  Finally!  :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:08:34 PM
Janet - I would NEVER give your ducky to someone else.  He belongs to you and you alone!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:08:45 PM
O/T

For anyone who wants to see the pics, I just posted the sock monkeys' final day in San Fran in the Lounge.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1934.new#new


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: lnichols on July 29, 2007, 10:09:29 PM
Hello... Everyone... Nice new site.... Took me a few to get here, but apparently it was good I was not locked out... :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:12:38 PM
Hello... Everyone... Nice new site.... Took me a few to get here, but apparently it was good I was not locked out... :-)


Hi Inichols - long time no see. Good to see you again.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: lnichols on July 29, 2007, 10:16:19 PM
Hello... Everyone... Nice new site.... Took me a few to get here, but apparently it was good I was not locked out... :-)


Hi Inichols - long time no see. Good to see you again.

Good to see you too..... it has been a while... I have been busy... my pup tore her ACL and Meniscus so she needed sugery... A long road to recovery for her.... Has kept me busy... :-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 10:16:32 PM
Hey L nichols....!!

I guess I got lost for a minute...  :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 10:17:02 PM
Hello... Everyone... Nice new site.... Took me a few to get here, but apparently it was good I was not locked out... :-)


Captain!  Nice to see you again. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 29, 2007, 10:17:38 PM
What are you guys doing?  Why is everyone in slow motion tonight?  Doesn't anyone want to talk?  I am getting bored.  If someone doesn't say something soon, I am going to fall asleep.  I don't see my RES (that's rolling eyes smiley).  Hey, where's the winkie?  I can't see it either.

Um....I have a lot of pages to read....had a wedding reception to attend...met Sharon  (who'd think that this would be possible?)...and now am tired as he$$ cuz it was a great party....may not be able to catch up and read all...but I have my excuse... ;) :roll:  I think I found the wink and RES...they are out of order....some are ID'd...some are not...that was something before the new forum...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: lnichols on July 29, 2007, 10:20:05 PM
it is great to see you all.... I have missed everyone...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 10:21:38 PM
What are you guys doing?  Why is everyone in slow motion tonight?  Doesn't anyone want to talk?  I am getting bored.  If someone doesn't say something soon, I am going to fall asleep.  I don't see my RES (that's rolling eyes smiley).  Hey, where's the winkie?  I can't see it either.

Um....I have a lot of pages to read....had a wedding reception to attend...met Sharon  (who'd think that this would be possible?)...and now am tired as he$$ cuz it was a great party....may not be able to catch up and read all...but I have my excuse... ;) :roll:  I think I found the wink and RES...they are out of order....some are ID'd...some are not...that was something before the new forum...


that was so cool... that you two "met" here and then really met!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 29, 2007, 10:22:46 PM
The sock monkeys and I are worn out with our travels, so we're hitting the hay.

Night monkeys.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 10:23:04 PM
What are you guys doing?  Why is everyone in slow motion tonight?  Doesn't anyone want to talk?  I am getting bored.  If someone doesn't say something soon, I am going to fall asleep.  I don't see my RES (that's rolling eyes smiley).  Hey, where's the winkie?  I can't see it either.

Um....I have a lot of pages to read....had a wedding reception to attend...met Sharon  (who'd think that this would be possible?)...and now am tired as he$$ cuz it was a great party....may not be able to catch up and read all...but I have my excuse... ;) :roll:  I think I found the wink and RES...they are out of order....some are ID'd...some are not...that was something before the new forum...


you really don't have to read back... LOL... it's all saying good bye to the old and hello to the new..


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 10:23:56 PM
Nite BT....

San... am I on 40 now? :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:24:01 PM
Nite BTgirl


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: lnichols on July 29, 2007, 10:24:54 PM
The sock monkeys and I are worn out with our travels, so we're hitting the hay.

Night monkeys.

Nite BT


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 29, 2007, 10:27:36 PM
What are you guys doing?  Why is everyone in slow motion tonight?  Doesn't anyone want to talk?  I am getting bored.  If someone doesn't say something soon, I am going to fall asleep.  I don't see my RES (that's rolling eyes smiley).  Hey, where's the winkie?  I can't see it either.

Um....I have a lot of pages to read....had a wedding reception to attend...met Sharon  (who'd think that this would be possible?)...and now am tired as he$$ cuz it was a great party....may not be able to catch up and read all...but I have my excuse... ;) :roll:  I think I found the wink and RES...they are out of order....some are ID'd...some are not...that was something before the new forum...


that was so cool... that you two "met" here and then really met!

Yes, indeed...not planned, but we did meet....our lives our intertwined, whether we are aware or not....and I mentioned to her that if I had not mentioned a wedding, we may not have known we were at the same celebration.....twilight zone....


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:29:22 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 29, 2007, 10:30:13 PM
What are you guys doing?  Why is everyone in slow motion tonight?  Doesn't anyone want to talk?  I am getting bored.  If someone doesn't say something soon, I am going to fall asleep.  I don't see my RES (that's rolling eyes smiley).  Hey, where's the winkie?  I can't see it either.

Um....I have a lot of pages to read....had a wedding reception to attend...met Sharon  (who'd think that this would be possible?)...and now am tired as he$$ cuz it was a great party....may not be able to catch up and read all...but I have my excuse... ;) :roll:  I think I found the wink and RES...they are out of order....some are ID'd...some are not...that was something before the new forum...


that was so cool... that you two "met" here and then really met!

Yes, indeed...not planned, but we did meet....our lives are intertwined, whether we are aware or not....and I mentioned to her that if I had not mentioned a wedding, we may not have known we were at the same celebration.....twilight zone....

No damn edit button...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 29, 2007, 10:31:24 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:

 :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 29, 2007, 10:34:08 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:

Absolutely not.... :P  When you stay at a hotel, someone else has latrine duty... 8-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:36:13 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:

Absolutely not.... :P  When you stay at a hotel, someone else has latrine duty... 8-)

Well then how did you and Sharon recognize eachother?  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 10:37:47 PM
Night BT.  Night Donna.  Sleep well and sweet sock monkey dreams.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 10:38:37 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:

Absolutely not.... :P  When you stay at a hotel, someone else has latrine duty... 8-)

Well then how did you and Sharon recognize eachother?  :lol:

Yes, please tell us about it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: lnichols on July 29, 2007, 10:38:48 PM
Good night everyone.... It has been great saying hello... I will be back soon... Take care....  ;-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:39:26 PM
Good night everyone.... It has been great saying hello... I will be back soon... Take care....  ;-)

Nite lnichols - great to see you!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 10:39:55 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:

Absolutely not.... :P  When you stay at a hotel, someone else has latrine duty... 8-)

Well then how did you and Sharon recognize eachother?  :lol:

Was it weird to meet a monkey in real life??


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 10:40:16 PM
Night Captain...as always... sweet dreams.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 10:40:41 PM
Nite L Nichols...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 10:45:26 PM
Question....

why does everyone think my satish hit her with the car as so far fetched?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 10:49:21 PM
Question....

why does everyone think my satish hit her with the car as so far fetched?

Well, I don't think it's so far fetched, but look at it this way.  If Satish hit her with the car, Joran would have hung him out to dry.  Poppa Sloot would have laid it all on him and that would have cleared the sporter.  If not Paulus, it would have been Anita.  Any other injuries could have been attributed to the car, except maybe a gunshot wound. Besides, they would never have looked any further than Satish. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 29, 2007, 10:49:41 PM
Hey Monkeys!  This may have alrealdy been addressed but I am just getting here.  Has anyone noticed the ad for Carribean Beaches and the page? At least one of them is an Aruban beach.  I haven't looked at all of them.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:50:29 PM
Question....

why does everyone think my satish hit her with the car as so far fetched?

I don't know but why is he "your Satish", lol  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 10:52:16 PM
Hey Monkeys!  This may have alrealdy been addressed but I am just getting here.  Has anyone noticed the ad for Carribean Beaches and the page? At least one of them is an Aruban beach.  I haven't looked at all of them.

I'm not seeing any ads but I may have them blocked somehow.  If you are seeing ads for Aruba or caribbean beaches it's a google ad thing and they pick up on words mentioned in the forum.  Not alot can be done to stop it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 29, 2007, 10:54:06 PM
Hey Monkeys!  This may have alrealdy been addressed but I am just getting here.  Has anyone noticed the ad for Carribean Beaches and the page? At least one of them is an Aruban beach.  I haven't looked at all of them.

I'm not seeing any ads but I may have them blocked somehow.  If you are seeing ads for Aruba or caribbean beaches it's a google ad thing and they pick up on words mentioned in the forum.  Not alot can be done to stop it.

The ad is on my front page to the side.  It does say Live Search at the top of the ad.  and a little magnifying glass to click on.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 10:55:39 PM
Question....

why does everyone think my satish hit her with the car as so far fetched?

I don't know but why is he "your Satish", lol  :lol:

I thought I wrote theory... :oops: :safe:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 10:57:35 PM
Question....

why does everyone think my satish hit her with the car as so far fetched?

I don't know but why is he "your Satish", lol  :lol:

I thought I wrote theory... :oops: :safe:

I thought she was just being possessive.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 29, 2007, 10:59:48 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:

Absolutely not.... :P  When you stay at a hotel, someone else has latrine duty... 8-)

Well then how did you and Sharon recognize eachother?  :lol:

Nonesuche had sent us an email so we'd be able to contact one another....sharon sent me an email with a picture from the wedding in FL that only showed the back of her head...she & I then said what we'd be wearing and described our DH's....I found her....yup...haircut & back of head.....took a while but I did it..(like the Snoop sisters separated  :lol:)....Sharon is probably still visiting or on her way home, so it's not really comfortable describing the experience without her input....we did have breakfast in the same area this AM, though.  It's a small world afterall...(everyone sing along,now..)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:00:07 PM
Hey Monkeys!  This may have alrealdy been addressed but I am just getting here.  Has anyone noticed the ad for Carribean Beaches and the page? At least one of them is an Aruban beach.  I haven't looked at all of them.

I'm not seeing any ads but I may have them blocked somehow.  If you are seeing ads for Aruba or caribbean beaches it's a google ad thing and they pick up on words mentioned in the forum.  Not alot can be done to stop it.

The ad is on my front page to the side.  It does say Live Search at the top of the ad.  and a little magnifying glass to click on.

Casa - I just checked and I don't see it.  I may have some ads blocked.  Like I said though, most of the ads aren't chosen they appear because of what is typed on the page.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:04:49 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:

Absolutely not.... :P  When you stay at a hotel, someone else has latrine duty... 8-)

Well then how did you and Sharon recognize eachother?  :lol:

Nonesuche had sent us an email so we'd be able to contact one another....sharon sent me an email with a picture from the wedding in FL that only showed the back of her head...she & I then said what we'd be wearing and described our DH's....I found her....yup...haircut & back of head.....took a while but I did it..(like the Snoop sisters separated  :lol:)....Sharon is probably still visiting or on her way home, so it's not really comfortable describing the experience without her input....we did have breakfast in the same area this AM, though.  It's a small world afterall...(everyone sing along,now..)

French
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqTyBBit7NI


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 11:05:29 PM
Why can't we access  the 2005 FP archives any longer? 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:08:53 PM
NJ.. that makes sense... for a second, I was thinking... oh, they must not have clicked.  But I think that it's good that you would rather wait for her to be here...


Lala's I don't know...

Casa, I don't have any ads like that either....


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 29, 2007, 11:09:55 PM
2NJSons_Mom - did you take a toilet brush so she'd recognize you?  :lol: :lol:

Absolutely not.... :P  When you stay at a hotel, someone else has latrine duty... 8-)

Well then how did you and Sharon recognize eachother?  :lol:

Nonesuche had sent us an email so we'd be able to contact one another....sharon sent me an email with a picture from the wedding in FL that only showed the back of her head...she & I then said what we'd be wearing and described our DH's....I found her....yup...haircut & back of head.....took a while but I did it..(like the Snoop sisters separated  :lol:)....Sharon is probably still visiting or on her way home, so it's not really comfortable describing the experience without her input....we did have breakfast in the same area this AM, though.  It's a small world afterall...(everyone sing along,now..)

French
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqTyBBit7NI

 :lol: :lol:  I think it's time for me to say goodnight....I'm sure our friend, Sharon, will have her own input....but thanks for the song...it's so true...'who knew?'


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:11:36 PM
Nite NJ!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 29, 2007, 11:11:48 PM
Hugging Nemo.  See you  monkeys later. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:12:42 PM
Why can't we access  the 2005 FP archives any longer? 

That is a question for Dugga.  The links to 2005 have been off the front page for a long time.  I can access them in others ways though.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:13:07 PM
Nite 2NJ and Lala's


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:14:19 PM
Nite lala's.....


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 29, 2007, 11:15:32 PM
Hey Monkeys!  This may have alrealdy been addressed but I am just getting here.  Has anyone noticed the ad for Carribean Beaches and the page? At least one of them is an Aruban beach.  I haven't looked at all of them.

I'm not seeing any ads but I may have them blocked somehow.  If you are seeing ads for Aruba or caribbean beaches it's a google ad thing and they pick up on words mentioned in the forum.  Not alot can be done to stop it.

The ad is on my front page to the side.  It does say Live Search at the top of the ad.  and a little magnifying glass to click on.

Casa - I just checked and I don't see it.  I may have some ads blocked.  Like I said though, most of the ads aren't chosen they appear because of what is typed on the page.

I didn't think that anyone here had chosen it! :shock: I just didn't know if there was anything that could be done about it .  Hope it's not just my computer  :shock: haha


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 29, 2007, 11:17:07 PM
NJ.. that makes sense... for a second, I was thinking... oh, they must not have clicked.  But I think that it's good that you would rather wait for her to be here...


Lala's I don't know...

Casa, I don't have any ads like that either....

Wonder why I have it and y'all don't?  That's weird!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2007, 11:18:01 PM

Yes, indeed...not planned, but we did meet....our lives our intertwined, whether we are aware or not....and I mentioned to her that if I had not mentioned a wedding, we may not have known we were at the same celebration.....twilight zone....


I agree.  "Our lives are intertwined, whether we are aware of not."

My mother passed away one day before youngest son's second birthday.  Although all the nurses in the cancer clinic in Vancouver  where my mother spent her last days were kind and caring ... there was one nurse who went the extra mile.  However ... a few days prior to my mother's death this nurse went on holidays and ... I never saw her again.  Although a large box of chocolates were left at the nurses' station in appreciation for all to enjoy ... it was my intention to send this one nurse a special card/letter to express my gratitude but ... I procrastinated and ... it never happened.  Nevertheless ... I thought about my lack of action with regret over the years.

Well, when youngest son was seventeen years old he came home from our church's teen's camp ... madly in love.  As the love of his life for the next two months lived in Vancouver ... approximately a 45 minute drive from our home and ... he did not have a vehicle ... a week after camp ended ... the young lady's mother drove her to our home so the two could spend the day together.  I had agreed to drive her home that evening.  Well ... the mother came to our door with her daughter to introduce herself and ... you guessed it!  The nurse I had thought about off and on for the past fifteen years was ... standing in front of me.

It was as if God was giving me the chance to do what was right ...

Just thought I would share.

Janet



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:18:02 PM
Casa - I'm not sure if it was a google ad but I do have an idea how they work.  You can request no ads like pornographic or violence, etc.  You cannot request not to get any ads from Aruba as far as I know.  Google adsense searches the website and places ads based upon what is written on the website.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:20:38 PM

Yes, indeed...not planned, but we did meet....our lives our intertwined, whether we are aware or not....and I mentioned to her that if I had not mentioned a wedding, we may not have known we were at the same celebration.....twilight zone....


I agree.  "Our lives are intertwined, whether we are aware of not."

My mother passed away one day before youngest son's second birthday.  Although all the nurses in the cancer clinic in Vancouver  where my mother spent her last days were kind and caring ... there was one nurse who went the extra mile.  However ... a few days prior to my mother's death this nurse went on holidays and ... I never saw her again.  Although a large box of chocolates were left at the nurses' station in appreciation for all to enjoy ... it was my intention to send this one nurse a special card/letter to express my gratitude but ... I procrastinated and ... it never happened.  Nevertheless ... I thought about my lack of action with regret over the years.

Well, when youngest son was seventeen years old he came home from our church's teen's camp ... madly in love.  As the love of his life for the next two months lived in Vancouver ... approximately a 45 minute drive from our home and ... he did not have a vehicle ... a week after camp ended ... the young lady's mother drove her to our home so the two could spend the day together.  I had agreed to drive her home that evening.  Well ... the mother came to our door with her daughter to introduce herself and ... you guessed it!  The nurse I had thought about off and on for the past fifteen years was ... standing in front of me.

It was as if God was giving me the chance to do what was right ...

Just thought I would share.

Janet



Wow Janet - what are the odds?  Very cool!

So is your son still dating her?  ;)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 29, 2007, 11:21:13 PM
I guess that DeWitte / Diario *case closed* follow-up never happened?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 29, 2007, 11:21:37 PM
Ok, I clicked on it and it is MSN Search, not Google.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:23:39 PM
Janet,
That is a very cool story!

Casa,
MSN works same as google I think... :(


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: casa on July 29, 2007, 11:24:54 PM
Janet,
That is a very cool story!

Casa,
MSN works same as google I think... :(

I'll just ignore it and maybe it will be gone tomorrow!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 29, 2007, 11:30:21 PM
No.  I think that interest only lasted for about two whole months.

Youngest son is now 24 years old ... married for almost one year to a Dutch American beauty (inside and out).  He and his wife are currently in Israel on the mission field.  However ... they will be returning at the end of August and resuming their teaching careers.

Janet


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:30:45 PM
I guess that DeWitte / Diario *case closed* follow-up never happened?

Guess not.  Whatever happened to the witness that was supposed to be on the radio last week.  The one RU was all excited about.  That didn't happen either?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:31:34 PM
No.  I think that interest only lasted for about two whole months.

Youngest son is now 24 years old ... married for almost one year to a Dutch American beauty (inside and out).  He and his wife are currently in Israel on the mission field.  However ... they will be returning at the end of August and resuming their teaching careers.

Janet

Bet you will be glad when they are home!  They sound like a wonderful couple!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dugga on July 29, 2007, 11:31:45 PM
Why can't we access  the 2005 FP archives any longer? 

That is a question for Dugga.  The links to 2005 have been off the front page for a long time.  I can access them in others ways though.
They're still there, and they are accessible to everyone, whether you're reading as a guest or as a logged in member.

I think what you've stumbled on is the great feature of SMF called "collapsible boards". If you click on the header of a section of the forum, you'll see there's a plus (if it's collapsed), or a minus (if it's expanded). This lets you open and close certain message areas to your liking, and it remembers your settings.

It's all still there. Just expand, or "uncollapse" the section by clicking on it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:32:06 PM
that is cool Tamiko's...

Casa... maybe it will be gone soon!  I need to go and check out the caption contents... I haven't checked lately but somebody wrote the funniest caption like it was a newspaper article...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:34:38 PM
Did Lala's hug Nemo and go?

she did...

were you going to tango?  I bet if you are, she'll come back...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: GreatOwl on July 29, 2007, 11:38:02 PM
I am about ready to turn in for the evening.    It has been interesting viewing the new forum.


There has been quite a number of changes since I first began visiting in March/April of 2005.  The ups and downs during that time have been numerous, but it is great to see the Forum survive.  The improvements look great.   The only problem is there are no meices running around for me to catch.

Good nite all.      See you on another day.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:39:57 PM
Tango?  No, tango later.  Sleep now.  Nemo hugged.  World is at peace.  Sleep, sleep, Mrs. Red.


Heirborn,
are you a new monkey?  do I know you?  have you posted before?  I am curious... oh, and of course...

WELCOME ;) ;)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:41:30 PM
I am about ready to turn in for the evening.    It has been interesting viewing the new forum.


There has been quite a number of changes since I first began visiting in March/April of 2005.  The ups and downs during that time have been numerous, but it is great to see the Forum survive.  The improvements look great.   The only problem is there are no meices running around for me to catch.

Good nite all.      See you on another day.

Nite Owl... [size=07pt][size=07pt]we will find you some meice pudding![/size][/size]


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 29, 2007, 11:41:57 PM
I guess that DeWitte / Diario *case closed* follow-up never happened?

Guess not.  Whatever happened to the witness that was supposed to be on the radio last week.  The one RU was all excited about.  That didn't happen either?
The last radio witness faired poorly, maybe *they* pulled the plug on a return engagement? 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:42:30 PM
Nite GO


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:43:12 PM
I guess that DeWitte / Diario *case closed* follow-up never happened?

Guess not.  Whatever happened to the witness that was supposed to be on the radio last week.  The one RU was all excited about.  That didn't happen either?
The last radio witness faired poorly, maybe *they* pulled the plug on a return engagement? 

I think they pulled the plug after Renfro and Dompigs Amigoe article backfired on them  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 29, 2007, 11:44:15 PM
I think I am failing my test here... later. goodnight all


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:46:28 PM
Nite Kat...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 29, 2007, 11:47:01 PM
I have a neat little feature that was shown to me by my son.I have a hard time reading some pring (old age).

Ctrl @ +  increases the print size (zooms in)

Ctrl @ - reduces print size (zooms out)


Try it! 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 29, 2007, 11:48:32 PM
Ctrl and +

Ctrl and -


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 29, 2007, 11:50:45 PM
Very cool sleddogs


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:52:31 PM
I was just trying to figure that out... but the control and + didn't work...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 29, 2007, 11:54:52 PM
I was just trying to figure that out... but the control and + didn't work...

try

control +

hold control while hitting the + sign.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:54:59 PM
why won't the size change??/


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 29, 2007, 11:55:59 PM
Ctrl and +

Ctrl and -
That is too cool ~ how do these kids know all this stuff?  It's beyond me. :? :?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 29, 2007, 11:57:53 PM
OS,

I did... it's not working for me!


dern all i can get is 10 pt ...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AZSunny on July 30, 2007, 12:01:22 AM
OS,

I did... it's not working for me!


dern all i can get is 10 pt ...

continue holding down the control key, and then hit the + or - key.  hit together. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:01:41 AM
OS,

I did... it's not working for me!


dern all i can get is 10 pt ...

It works for me,

you are holding the control key down while touching the + key.

I don't know why it doesn't work for you. strange.

BTW, I put some R&B in Music, are you going to add some other threads for other music or maybe just change the name of the R&B to include all music. Some pretty good music in there, IMO.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: sleddogs on July 30, 2007, 12:04:22 AM
Ctrl and +

Ctrl and -
That is too cool ~ how do these kids know all this stuff?  It's beyond me. :? :?


LOL, My son is 35 and a Microsoft Engineer working for EMC.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 12:05:12 AM
why won't the size change??/

If you are using the + and - on your "keypad" you may need your NumLocks on?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:06:29 AM
OS,

I did... it's not working for me!


dern all i can get is 10 pt ...

It works for me,

you are holding the control key down while touching the + key.

I don't know why it doesn't work for you. strange.

BTW, I put some R&B in Music, are you going to add some other threads for other music or maybe just change the name of the R&B to include all music. Some pretty good music in there, IMO.

OS

Maybe it's this laptop...  but it won't work... I will sneak in and use Red's computer later to see if I can make it work... it won't do it for me on this one....

and I was hoping that other people would go in and start new threads... like maybe a great guitar riff thread or something.... LOL.. I don't want to be the one to start all the threads, I would feel like a big thread hog or something... :smt022


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 12:07:44 AM
Mrs. Red - see my NumLock post above  :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:11:29 AM
OS,

I did... it's not working for me!


dern all i can get is 10 pt ...

It works for me,

you are holding the control key down while touching the + key.

I don't know why it doesn't work for you. strange.

BTW, I put some R&B in Music, are you going to add some other threads for other music or maybe just change the name of the R&B to include all music. Some pretty good music in there, IMO.

OS

Maybe it's this laptop...  but it won't work... I will sneak in and use Red's computer later to see if I can make it work... it won't do it for me on this one....

and I was hoping that other people would go in and start new threads... like maybe a great guitar riff thread or something.... LOL.. I don't want to be the one to start all the threads, I would feel like a big thread hog or something... :smt022

Oh, ok, I don't know how to do that. Angie taught me how to "youtube" and I love it, never knew there were so many songs out there.

An idea might be one for 50,60,70, country, whatever.

Maybe someone will add some topics, whatever they want then.

Thanks,

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 30, 2007, 12:14:29 AM
Ctrl and +

Ctrl and -
That is too cool ~ how do these kids know all this stuff?  It's beyond me. :? :?


LOL, My son is 35 and a Microsoft Engineer working for EMC.
:lol: :lol: :lol: They'll always be our kids, right?   :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:15:19 AM
Mrs. Red - see my NumLock post above  :-D

trying it now...no dice... damn it. trying again


but this computer is so used that the m,n, and e keys don't even have the letters anymore.... they are worn off.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 30, 2007, 12:15:32 AM
Testing....


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 30, 2007, 12:16:36 AM
Testing....

You're here.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:17:47 AM
OS... I added another thread... you do that the same way as before... hit the word music and then hit new topic and start a new one... if you want to...


On another note, I am bummed no one wants to hang out and do a book club...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 12:18:10 AM
Testing....

YOU MADE IT!  FINALLY!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:18:53 AM
Elaine.... good to see you!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 12:19:07 AM
Mrs. Red - see my NumLock post above  :-D

trying it now...no dice... damn it. trying again


but this computer is so used that the m,n, and e keys don't even have the letters anymore.... they are worn off.

If it's that old the keys just may not work.  I have that problem with a couple keys on my old laptop.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:22:05 AM
I was thinking that Klaas... LOL  but I love this old thing! 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:22:08 AM
Here's a link for keyboard shortcuts.

http://tinyurl.com/222yct

Also, you can goggle keyboard shortcuts, there are some for foxfire, IE, IE 6, 7, etc.

Pretty awesome.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 30, 2007, 12:23:42 AM
Hello all you lovely monkeys!!  :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 30, 2007, 12:25:09 AM
Here's a link for keyboard shortcuts.

http://tinyurl.com/222yct

Also, you can goggle keyboard shortcuts, there are some for foxfire, IE, IE 6, 7, etc.

Pretty awesome.

OS


Thanks I love shortcut keys.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 30, 2007, 12:28:22 AM
OS... I added another thread... you do that the same way as before... hit the word music and then hit new topic and start a new one... if you want to...


On another note, I am bummed no one wants to hang out and do a book club...


Give us time, Mrs Red.  We are all still in shock from the new forum. :lol:
Hello Monkeys!
I have even had a bludge from my Aussie thread as I reckon everyone is so busy playing with the new bells and whistles they will not have time to read much else.
Glad to see some of our missing monkeys have found the combination to the new cage locks.  8)
Also I am most impressed by the sliding control under some of the posts (web links and photos) that allow us to view all the details without blowing the margins.
Lala will miss out on a few names now for her book.  No more blown margins!
Also I love the front page - the comments are so much easier to read now.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:30:02 AM
OS... I added another thread... you do that the same way as before... hit the word music and then hit new topic and start a new one... if you want to...


On another note, I am bummed no one wants to hang out and do a book club...

Good I have never added a topic on SM before, maybe I will try it, see what happens. Txs,

I am not a reader sorry, use to be but I have MTBI and can't concentrate. I have Dave's book, if that helps. And will have Beth's soon.

OS



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 30, 2007, 12:31:07 AM
OS... I added another thread... you do that the same way as before... hit the word music and then hit new topic and start a new one... if you want to...


On another note, I am bummed no one wants to hang out and do a book club...


Give us time, Mrs Red.  We are all still in shock from the new forum. :lol:
Hello Monkeys!
I have even had a bludge from my Aussie thread as I reckon everyone is so busy playing with the new bells and whistles they will not have time to read much else.
Glad to see some of our missing monkeys have found the combination to the new cage locks.  8)
Also I am most impressed by the sliding control under some of the posts (web links and photos) that allow us to view all the details without blowing the margins.
Lala will miss out on a few names now for her book.  No more blown margins!
Also I love the front page - the comments are so much easier to read now.


Hi Tibro. :grin:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:31:23 AM
I know you are right Tib!  I still haven't even really figured out all the stuff in here, and I have been on for over 15 hours.. :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 30, 2007, 12:31:52 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Scared%20Monkeys/threadlock.jpg)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:32:55 AM
Here's a link for keyboard shortcuts.

http://tinyurl.com/222yct

Also, you can goggle keyboard shortcuts, there are some for foxfire, IE, IE 6, 7, etc.

Pretty awesome.

OS


Thanks I love shortcut keys.

I am so hooked on the mouse, but I need to start using them.

YW

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:33:37 AM
OS... I added another thread... you do that the same way as before... hit the word music and then hit new topic and start a new one... if you want to...


On another note, I am bummed no one wants to hang out and do a book club...

Good I have never added a topic on SM before, maybe I will try it, see what happens. Txs,

I am not a reader sorry, use to be but I have MTBI and can't concentrate. I have Dave's book, if that helps. And will have Beth's soon.

OS



OS,
I am sorry to hear that. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 30, 2007, 12:33:59 AM
Hi San - no San Bans yet?

Yep Mrs Red - that timer thing is a bit scary. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 30, 2007, 12:35:25 AM
I don't read as many books as I once did, I read more online now it seems. That's just me. Of course I read Dave's book and will read Beth's.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:35:38 AM
OS... I added another thread... you do that the same way as before... hit the word music and then hit new topic and start a new one... if you want to...


On another note, I am bummed no one wants to hang out and do a book club...


Give us time, Mrs Red.  We are all still in shock from the new forum. :lol:
Hello Monkeys!
I have even had a bludge from my Aussie thread as I reckon everyone is so busy playing with the new bells and whistles they will not have time to read much else.
Glad to see some of our missing monkeys have found the combination to the new cage locks.  8)
Also I am most impressed by the sliding control under some of the posts (web links and photos) that allow us to view all the details without blowing the margins.
Lala will miss out on a few names now for her book.  No more blown margins!
Also I love the front page - the comments are so much easier to read now.


I love your Aussie thread spent time there reading before we moved. Need to go back.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:37:08 AM
Hi San - no San Bans yet?

Yep Mrs Red - that timer thing is a bit scary. 

I don't have a life is what it tells me... :lol:

not really but it means that there is a lot I am not getting done...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: San on July 30, 2007, 12:39:20 AM
Hi San - no San Bans yet?

Yep Mrs Red - that timer thing is a bit scary. 

No bans yet :lol:. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:43:11 AM
OS... I added another thread... you do that the same way as before... hit the word music and then hit new topic and start a new one... if you want to...


On another note, I am bummed no one wants to hang out and do a book club...

Good I have never added a topic on SM before, maybe I will try it, see what happens. Txs,

I am not a reader sorry, use to be but I have MTBI and can't concentrate. I have Dave's book, if that helps. And will have Beth's soon.

OS



OS,
I am sorry to hear that. 

It's ok, it just affects memory and concentration. I have a DVD/VCR movie collection of about 300, I can watch them over and over and its new for me, DH on the other hand says "We've seen than before," me "well it's new to me." I'm a cheap date. LOL.

I normally buy like christian books on CD to listen. 

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:43:46 AM
Good night Monkeys...

I have been in here way too far past my bedtime!

Keep the faith!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Tibrogargan on July 30, 2007, 12:44:10 AM
Glad you enjoy my thread, OS.  I really enjoy finding articles and pictures for it.  My contribution to all the hard working monkeys as it is difficult to do much else from here  :)
I seem to spend most of my time reading on the internet instead of all the books I used to consume.  It would be a very dull world without books and music.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:45:09 AM
Hi San - no San Bans yet?

Yep Mrs Red - that timer thing is a bit scary. 

If you click on the little box on the right of the date, time (top right), it will minimize and you can't see the logged in hours. LOL

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:45:56 AM
OS,
Do you ever read Beth Moore?  I mean listen to?  I still call it reading when it's books on tape... my brother listens to them all the time too!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:47:31 AM
I love reading that thread too Tib.... Red and I really want to visit someday ...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 12:47:36 AM
Hi San - no San Bans yet?

Yep Mrs Red - that timer thing is a bit scary. 

No bans yet.  I have approved a few new members but haven't had time to approve any more right now. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:48:17 AM
Glad you enjoy my thread, OS.  I really enjoy finding articles and pictures for it.  My contribution to all the hard working monkeys as it is difficult to do much else from here  :)
I seem to spend most of my time reading on the internet instead of all the books I used to consume.  It would be a very dull world without books and music.

The photos are great.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:51:17 AM
OS,
Do you ever read Beth Moore?  I mean listen to?  I still call it reading when it's books on tape... my brother listens to them all the time too!

NO I haven't, most of what I have are my church cd's.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: mrs. red on July 30, 2007, 12:53:04 AM
OS,
Do you ever read Beth Moore?  I mean listen to?  I still call it reading when it's books on tape... my brother listens to them all the time too!

NO I haven't, most of what I have are my church cd's.

OS

Email me ... get the addy from Klaas if you don't have it,  and let's talk!

OK  I am really going to the bunkey now!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ospainter on July 30, 2007, 12:54:42 AM
Good night Monkeys...

I have been in here way too far past my bedtime!

Keep the faith!

Good night Mrs. Red.

OS


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 30, 2007, 01:05:59 AM
 :arrow:  RU

phpBB.Critical Error

Could not connect to the database


Hmmm...betcha Charlie Manson and Scotty Peterson have a full mailbox in 2/3 days.  8-)



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 01:07:53 AM
:arrow:  RU

phpBB.Critical Error

Could not connect to the database


Hmmm...betcha Charlie Manson and Scotty Peterson have a full mailbox in 2/3 days.  8-)



Yeah - it's been like that for a couple hours..such a shame  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 30, 2007, 01:08:52 AM
Ooops...now it is back up. Sorry Charlie...


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 01:10:50 AM
Ooops...now it is back up. Sorry Charlie...

Not really:

Could not obtain post/user information.

DEBUG MODE

SQL Error : 1194 Table 'pt' is marked as crashed and should be repaired

SELECT u.username, u.user_id, u.user_posts, u.user_from, u.user_website, u.user_email, u.user_icq, u.user_aim, u.user_yim, u.user_regdate, u.user_level, u.user_msnm, u.user_viewemail, u.user_rank, u.user_sig, u.user_sig_bbcode_uid, u.user_avatar, u.user_avatar_type, u.user_allowavatar, u.user_allowsmile, u.user_allowsig, p.*, pt.post_text, pt.post_subject, pt.bbcode_uid FROM phpbb_posts p, phpbb_users u, phpbb_posts_text pt WHERE p.topic_id = 10409 AND pt.post_id = p.post_id AND u.user_id = p.poster_id ORDER BY p.post_time ASC LIMIT 425, 25

Line : 462


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 30, 2007, 01:20:22 AM
Debug  -  OK, good.

Klaas, the site is pretty much finished anyways. IMO. Lazlo's ip was tracked and she was threatened by a poster...nothing was done. Posting on-topic, especially about the KLPD, is frowned upon.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dugga on July 30, 2007, 01:21:15 AM
From that error, it looks like they're using phpbb. Ah, I remember the days when the monkey cage used phpbb. It seems oh so long ago. ;-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 01:21:47 AM
Debug  -  OK, good.

Klaas, the site is pretty much finished anyways. IMO. Lazlo's ip was tracked and she was threatened by a poster...nothing was done. Posting on-topic, especially about the KLPD, is frowned upon.

WOW - Lazlo was threatened by a poster?  RU and FOB have both deteriorated if that's possible to go lower than bottom.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 01:22:09 AM
From that error, it looks like they're using phpbb. Ah, I remember the days when the monkey cage used phpbb. It seems oh so long ago. ;-)


yes, they are  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 30, 2007, 01:41:07 AM
WOW - Lazlo was threatened by a poster?
Yes, and today Iwabwu. Same thing > tracking threat based on POV. One person stuck up for Lazlo, i did not see any defend Iwabwu. It is a very desensitized group. No surprise there.

NEED KLPD UPDATE! YESTERDAY!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 01:46:29 AM
WOW - Lazlo was threatened by a poster?
Yes, and today Iwabwu. Same thing > tracking threat based on POV. One person stuck up for Lazlo, i did not see any defend Iwabwu. It is a very desensitized group. No surprise there.

NEED KLPD UPDATE! YESTERDAY!

Lazlo seems fairer than the rest.  She seems more honest.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 30, 2007, 01:59:31 AM
Lazlo seems fairer than the rest.  She seems more honest.
Lazlo is more honest. She has a long history on the boards, most of it filled with discussion about the MBers, chaperones and other *less likely* scenerios. Yet, in her case, they were actually readable because she presented them in a reasonable fashion. With the release of the PVs, the book, etc...she has obviously become more critical of J2K. I do not believe she is alone there, but she is the only one that will admit it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 30, 2007, 02:03:51 AM
I rebooted, because not all of my posts were going through. So, this is another test. (sorry)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 30, 2007, 02:06:20 AM
Debug  -  OK, good.

Klaas, the site is pretty much finished anyways. IMO. Lazlo's ip was tracked and she was threatened by a poster...nothing was done. Posting on-topic, especially about the KLPD, is frowned upon.

WOW - Lazlo was threatened by a poster?  RU and FOB have both deteriorated if that's possible to go lower than bottom.
And poor wabbi, she takes more abuse than anyone IMO


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 02:06:31 AM
Lazlo seems fairer than the rest.  She seems more honest.
Lazlo is more honest. She has a long history on the boards, most of it filled with discussion about the MBers, chaperones and other *less likely* scenerios. Yet, in her case, they were actually readable because she presented them in a reasonable fashion. With the release of the PVs, the book, etc...she has obviously become more critical of J2K. I do not believe she is alone there, but she is the only one that will admit it.
Yes, I agree.  I've noticed she appears critical now of JK2 and wondered if it was the PV's and book that changed her mind.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 02:13:43 AM
http://www.amigoe.com/english/

More divorces in Aruba than Antilles   

WILLEMSTAD – Of all the divorces filed with the Joint Court last year, the majority were from Aruba; 616 versus 418 in Curacao .   

Bonaire and St. Maarten filed respectively 43 and 162 divorces.  The figures in the annual report show more varieties and peculiarities between the six islands.  “And it raises the necessary questions”, concluded the by-now former president Luis de Lannoy, who was succeeded last month by Lisbeth Hoefdraad, in the preface of the annual report.   “Compared with all couples in the Antilles together, more couples in Aruba get a divorce.  Would there be something wrong with the conjugal fidelity and the wedded happiness in Aruba ?  And why are there in Bonaire more requests for custody placing (40) than in Curacao and Aruba (38 and 40)?  These islands have more inhabitants.  Does Bonaire have a problem with growing youth?”   

De Lannoy also indicated briefly the appearance of the Supervisory Council on the Bar.  Last year, as much as 102 of these cases were filed in Curacao, while Aruba filed only 12 and St. Maarten 55.  “Are the lawyers in Curacao much more wicked and do they make more mistakes than their Aruban learned friend”, wonders De Lannoy.  The necessary interested information can in any case be filtered from the figures and tables presented.  “It looks like sudoko.  I wish you much reading- and puzzle pleasure.”   

On all the islands last year, more suits were submitted than were handled.   The difference between these influx and efflux on the islands is in general not so big.  In Aruba for example, 2339 new criminal cases were entered in the procedure and 2282 trials were sentenced; in Curacao this was 1464 and 1613; in Bonaire 174 and 163; and in St. Maarten 1692 and 1662.  The figures for civil cases last year were 2925 versus 3053 in Aruba; 380 versus 292 in Bonaire; 3864 versus 2774 in Curacao ; and 1055 versus 768 in St. Maarten.  They have tried to calculate the average completion time by means of a random spot check of 10 percent of all the closed cases.  The results in civil procedures are 151 days in Bonaire, 56 days in Curacao , and 93 in St. Maarten.  In lawsuit procedures, these were 6 days in St. Maarten and 29 days in Aruba .  In tax cases, 617 days on all the islands.   



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 30, 2007, 02:13:55 AM
Debug  -  OK, good.

Klaas, the site is pretty much finished anyways. IMO. Lazlo's ip was tracked and she was threatened by a poster...nothing was done. Posting on-topic, especially about the KLPD, is frowned upon.

WOW - Lazlo was threatened by a poster?  RU and FOB have both deteriorated if that's possible to go lower than bottom.
And poor wabbi, she takes more abuse than anyone IMO
She does Elaine, but she is a rock. Over there they all blamed the Sloot dig on her, because of her incessant questions. :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 02:15:06 AM
Time for me to call it a night!

GOODNIGHT ALL!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 30, 2007, 02:18:03 AM
Debug  -  OK, good.

Klaas, the site is pretty much finished anyways. IMO. Lazlo's ip was tracked and she was threatened by a poster...nothing was done. Posting on-topic, especially about the KLPD, is frowned upon.

WOW - Lazlo was threatened by a poster?  RU and FOB have both deteriorated if that's possible to go lower than bottom.
And poor wabbi, she takes more abuse than anyone IMO
She does Elaine, but she is a rock. Over there they all blamed the Sloot dig on her, because of her incessant questions. :lol:
I do get a kick outta all her questions  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 30, 2007, 02:19:41 AM
Time for me to call it a night!

GOODNIGHT ALL!

Klaas, Take care!! I am glad I finally got in here to "see" everyone!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: igsigs on July 30, 2007, 02:28:30 AM
I do get a kick outta all her questions  :lol:[/quote]
What's wrong with questions?

Have there been any answers?

Have there been different answers to the same question?

Can there be two truths?

What is wrong with the truth?

Why lie about a missing person?

h/t Wabbi :smt059


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Elaine on July 30, 2007, 02:42:05 AM
I do get a kick outta all her questions  :lol:
What's wrong with questions?

Have there been any answers?

Have there been different answers to the same question?

Can there be two truths?

What is wrong with the truth?

Why lie about a missing person?

h/t Wabbi :smt059
[/quote]LOL, I was reading back, came back and saw this.LOL....Wabbi....is that you?  :lol: :lol: j/k


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Destiny on July 30, 2007, 02:46:02 AM
Nite GO

I MISS ROBOTS...and, have many problems with the new formats/forum.....I have high speed DSL. but everything is soooo slow...and even though I've worked, a lot in the testing forum....well, what can I say.

Nite All...Hugs......keep trying for justice for Natalee

Destiny


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: greeneyedlady on July 30, 2007, 03:34:48 AM
Lazlo seems fairer than the rest.  She seems more honest.
Lazlo is more honest. She has a long history on the boards, most of it filled with discussion about the MBers, chaperones and other *less likely* scenerios. Yet, in her case, they were actually readable because she presented them in a reasonable fashion. With the release of the PVs, the book, etc...she has obviously become more critical of J2K. I do not believe she is alone there, but she is the only one that will admit it.
Yes, I agree.  I've noticed she appears critical now of JK2 and wondered if it was the PV's and book that changed her mind.

Well golly,gee I'm in here :lol:Klass,I think Lazlo started being more critical when DeVries & Co. started investigating this case and it did have something to do with a pv that maybe we haven't seen. ;-)


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 05:19:50 AM
Looks like the whatever it was did whatever it needed to do, so hello!

This place looks different and will take some getting used to.  Is this thread still where everyone is hanging out?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on July 30, 2007, 06:30:35 AM
 :-)  Hey Easy , Glad to see you back <g>
   can ya tell me how to be invited to the Blog that points to your page please ? 
 if you want, my G- mail address is listed  . Not worried about has it I can Handel it .
                         your friend from Ohio Jerry


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 06:35:40 AM
:-)  Hey Easy , Glad to see you back <g>
   can ya tell me how to be invited to the Blog that points to your page please ? 
 if you want, my G- mail address is listed  . Not worried about has it I can Handel it .
                         your friend from Ohio Jerry

Sorry, I closed my blog while I make some changes.  Nothing new has been posted there in several weeks.  Just haven't had the time to do more than quick posts here.  I will remove it from my profile, if I can find it there. lol


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: AnnieMW1 on July 30, 2007, 07:13:31 AM
Good morning Monkeys.  Testing 1.2.3....

Is there any news?

No time to read back!

Have a great day.   :smile:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Leslie on July 30, 2007, 07:22:24 AM
Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
Aruba Today
http://www.arubatoday.com/
24ora
http://www.24ora.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

I need a new avatar for the new cage - any suggestions?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 30, 2007, 07:34:58 AM
Good morning.

Working and lurking. 

I agree Destiny, seems kinda slow.  I have cable modem at home and I'm on a T1 at work so it should be pretty quick.  Oh well.  It's pretty.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 30, 2007, 08:13:58 AM
Morning everyone. It's back to work for me today - no more fun in San Francisco.  :sad:

Glad to see Easy finally made it into the forum so he doesn't have to turn into an RUer.  :lol:

Hey - do any of the technical folks know how to make those quote stacks spread out some so they'll be more readable? When they're all scrunched up like they are, I have to take my finger and follow the little lines to figure out who said what. Let's face it - some of us are old and have to wear bifocals.  :oops:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 08:17:46 AM
Morning everyone. It's back to work for me today - no more fun in San Francisco.  :sad:

Glad to see Easy finally made it into the forum so he doesn't have to turn into an RUer.  :lol:

Hey - do any of the technical folks know how to make those quote stacks spread out some so they'll be more readable? When they're all scrunched up like they are, I have to take my finger and follow the little lines to figure out who said what. Let's face it - some of us are old and have to wear bifocals.  :oops:

Yep, I've been explorin' this morning.  Looks pretty cool.  I noticed the quote stacks too.  Hard to tell who said what.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 30, 2007, 08:18:54 AM
Morning everyone. It's back to work for me today - no more fun in San Francisco.  :sad:

Glad to see Easy finally made it into the forum so he doesn't have to turn into an RUer.  :lol:

Hey - do any of the technical folks know how to make those quote stacks spread out some so they'll be more readable? When they're all scrunched up like they are, I have to take my finger and follow the little lines to figure out who said what. Let's face it - some of us are old and have to wear bifocals.  :oops:

Yep, I've been explorin' this morning.  Looks pretty cool.  I noticed the quote stacks too.  Hard to tell who said what.

I'm glad you agree with me on the quote stacks - us old folks gotta stick together.  :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 30, 2007, 08:21:24 AM
Hi All

I'm having the same issues with it being seriously slow. I have DSL too and I have no problems surfing other websites on the web..... This one is just so SLOW, it is frustrating  :smt091,  I'd trade the pretty pages to go back and have faster loading any time.  I sure hope these bugs get worked out soon, cuz there isn't enough convincing that its me and my pc. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Peaches on July 30, 2007, 08:22:09 AM
Might help keep the quote stacks down.....



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 08:22:39 AM
Morning everyone. It's back to work for me today - no more fun in San Francisco.  :sad:

Glad to see Easy finally made it into the forum so he doesn't have to turn into an RUer.  :lol:

Hey - do any of the technical folks know how to make those quote stacks spread out some so they'll be more readable? When they're all scrunched up like they are, I have to take my finger and follow the little lines to figure out who said what. Let's face it - some of us are old and have to wear bifocals.  :oops:

Yep, I've been explorin' this morning.  Looks pretty cool.  I noticed the quote stacks too.  Hard to tell who said what.

I'm glad you agree with me on the quote stacks - us old folks gotta stick together.  :lol:

Did you say that, or did I say that?   :-?

Can I turn the warning off?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: BTgirl on July 30, 2007, 08:24:40 AM
Morning everyone. It's back to work for me today - no more fun in San Francisco.  :sad:

Glad to see Easy finally made it into the forum so he doesn't have to turn into an RUer.  :lol:

Hey - do any of the technical folks know how to make those quote stacks spread out some so they'll be more readable? When they're all scrunched up like they are, I have to take my finger and follow the little lines to figure out who said what. Let's face it - some of us are old and have to wear bifocals.  :oops:

Yep, I've been explorin' this morning.  Looks pretty cool.  I noticed the quote stacks too.  Hard to tell who said what.

I'm glad you agree with me on the quote stacks - us old folks gotta stick together.  :lol:

Did you say that, or did I say that?   :-?

Can I turn the warning off?

You can go into your profile to turn off that pain-in-th-butt warning. I don't remember exactly how to do it, though. Maybe San can help you out.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 30, 2007, 08:28:49 AM
Easy

You can change it in your profile.  click on look and layout preferences, and then check the box that says something about not warning of posts,  its under the one about returning to the page after posting,  if that one isn't checked you end up going to the beginning of the topics page after each post.

I know, I'm confusing, sorry.  its early for me. :-D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 08:31:02 AM
Morning monkeys.  Yes, I am up a little earlier than usual for me. Already on my second cup of coffee.  Did I see Easy in here and Elaine?  I have been missing Tibro, but I know she's out there.

I think we have some more newbies coming in...I sure hope they behave.  No worries.  I have new pencils. 

I went to bed last night with a very bad headache.  I truly think it's eyestrain.  Does anyone know how to make things larger on here?  BTW is anyone having issues with the speed of loading pages? Sometime it takes a while for my pages to load.  I used to have that problem on dial up, but I have DSL now.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 30, 2007, 08:33:26 AM
Morning monkeys.  Yes, I am up a little earlier than usual for me. Already on my second cup of coffee.  Did I see Easy in here and Elaine?  I have been missing Tibro, but I know she's out there.

I think we have some more newbies coming in...I sure hope they behave.  No worries.  I have new pencils. 

I went to bed last night with a very bad headache.  I truly think it's eyestrain.  Does anyone know how to make things larger on here?  BTW is anyone having issues with the speed of loading pages? Sometime it takes a while for my pages to load.  I used to have that problem on dial up, but I have DSL now.




Yes Lala's I am having issues with speed also, and I have DSL, I posted a few back about my problems.   


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 30, 2007, 08:34:58 AM
Morning monkeys.  Yes, I am up a little earlier than usual for me. Already on my second cup of coffee.  Did I see Easy in here and Elaine?  I have been missing Tibro, but I know she's out there.

I think we have some more newbies coming in...I sure hope they behave.  No worries.  I have new pencils. 

I went to bed last night with a very bad headache.  I truly think it's eyestrain.  Does anyone know how to make things larger on here?  BTW is anyone having issues with the speed of loading pages? Sometime it takes a while for my pages to load.  I used to have that problem on dial up, but I have DSL now.
Hi, Lala's ~ Sorry about the headache ~ eyestrain sure will do that.  :sad:
And, yes, I hadn't chimed in 'til now.....but my pages load very slowly, also.  I'm on DSL.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 08:36:12 AM
Mrs. Darth
I feel like I am on dial up again.  Doesn't happen everytime, but it is really irritating.  I worry the page will time out on me.  I hate when that happens. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 08:40:37 AM
I just read Dugga's response to me about the Front Page Archives.  I guess I am just stuck on stupid then...because I can't find the 2005 front page archives that I have been reading for the past week.  I need more help, Dugga, when you have time. Thanks.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: wreck on July 30, 2007, 08:40:53 AM
Patience, Patience, Patience! :-) I'm sure it is just a matter of ironing out a few tweaks with the server. I think Dugga was working on getting the AOL folks in here and was making a few adjustments. Sometimes the server has to remain "stable" for awhile and things will automatically get more efficient.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 08:43:11 AM
Patience, Patience, Patience! :-) I'm sure it is just a matter of ironing out a few tweaks with the server. I think Dugga was working on getting the AOL folks in here and was making a few adjustments. Sometimes the server has to remain "stable" for awhile and things will automatically get more efficient.

You sound like a monkey in the know. Morning Wreck.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: msmarple on July 30, 2007, 08:43:52 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.

Pages are loading very slowly.

The Front Page "Caption Contest" about the man who apparently drowned last week -  is in exceedingly poor taste. I hope I am not alone in that opinion.





Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 08:54:13 AM

Does anyone remember someone saying that you can look at where any of our posters are in the forum by doing something with your mouse?  I want to try it someone tell me how.   

You know, that didn't quite come out the way I wanted it to.  :?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MsVada on July 30, 2007, 08:56:41 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.

Pages are loading very slowly.

The Front Page "Caption Contest" about the man who apparently drowned last week -  is in exceedingly poor taste. I hope I am not alone in that opinion.


Nope, you are not alone,  who in heck thought up that for a caption contest???? :shock:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: tcumom on July 30, 2007, 08:58:01 AM

Does anyone remember someone saying that you can look at where any of our posters are in the forum by doing something with your mouse?  I want to try it someone tell me how.   

You know, that didn't quite come out the way I wanted it to.  :?
Go to where it shows everyone who's online ~ right above that it'll say for example,
10 guests 11 users, or whatever....just click on that!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ldstlou on July 30, 2007, 09:02:10 AM
Morning Monkeys!!
Wow!! first time in the new cage...so far so good...going to check everything out!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 09:05:29 AM
Thanks TCU.  That is interesting, now we even know when people are looking at our profiles.   HMMMM.

Hey, Lou.  Good to see you.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ldstlou on July 30, 2007, 09:16:55 AM
Thanks TCU.  That is interesting, now we even know when people are looking at our profiles.   HMMMM.

Hey, Lou.  Good to see you.

Morning to you too!!
So where shall I start to catch up? Has it gotten heated yet and are have there been lots and lots of trolls?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 09:19:33 AM
Thanks TCU.  That is interesting, now we even know when people are looking at our profiles.   HMMMM.

Hey, Lou.  Good to see you.

Morning to you too!!
So where shall I start to catch up? Has it gotten heated yet and are have there been lots and lots of trolls?

Nothing really to catch up on yet.  We have all been playing with our new toys.  No serious discussion yet. You can just click on print at the bottom of the page and it takes you to a page where you can scroll through ans see what we say without all the graphics. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MuffyBee on July 30, 2007, 09:20:33 AM
Morning Monkeys!!
Wow!! first time in the new cage...so far so good...going to check everything out!!

Okay.  This monkey is dipping toe in to test the waters.  I'm skeeered.  How does this thing work? 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 09:22:16 AM
The members list shows a few newbies with familiar SN’s, but all show a 0 count for posting.  Don’t be shy!  Jump in!  The water is fine. lol


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 09:28:17 AM
Muffy!  We have new toys and lots of fun.  Glad you could make it. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 30, 2007, 09:28:41 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.

Pages are loading very slowly.

The Front Page "Caption Contest" about the man who apparently drowned last week -  is in exceedingly poor taste. I hope I am not alone in that opinion.





I agree 100%


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ldstlou on July 30, 2007, 09:31:07 AM
Thanks TCU.  That is interesting, now we even know when people are looking at our profiles.   HMMMM.

Hey, Lou.  Good to see you.

Morning to you too!!
So where shall I start to catch up? Has it gotten heated yet and are have there been lots and lots of trolls?

Nothing really to catch up on yet.  We have all been playing with our new toys.  No serious discussion yet. You can just click on print at the bottom of the page and it takes you to a page where you can scroll through ans see what we say without all the graphics. 

where do I click on the page


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 30, 2007, 09:31:46 AM
Lala'smom- press control and the + key at the same time and it will make the print larger. Press as many times as needed to make it the size you desire.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 09:33:19 AM
Use the print button in the bottom right hand corner.  It creates a page that is easily printed.  I guess that is why it makes it easier to just speed scroll through it. It's in black and white.  You will know when you get there.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 09:34:04 AM
O/T

Anyone remember Tom Snyder?  He died over the weekend.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MuffyBee on July 30, 2007, 09:34:17 AM
Muffy!  We have new toys and lots of fun.  Glad you could make it. 

Thank you Lala's :-P :-P  I'm trying to make way round this place.  It's fancy!  But then I remember it took me weeks to even post on our old forum  :-P  Thank everyone in advance for their patience. 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Rob on July 30, 2007, 09:34:20 AM
I wasn't gonna say anything about that caption contest. Especially after that video I made.

But it seems of everyone who saw it only one person at Websleuth's thought it was in poor taste. That person must not follow the daily occurrences on Aruba however.



Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ldstlou on July 30, 2007, 09:34:36 AM
Muffy!  We have new toys and lots of fun.  Glad you could make it. 

Hey Honey, why am I showing a number where other people are showing logged? The blue number showing in my posts


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 09:35:59 AM
O/T

Anyone remember Tom Snyder?  He died over the weekend.

I do.  I enjoyed his late late show on television.  He had that dry sense of humor that not everyone can pull off.  I would stay up just to watch him.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ldstlou on July 30, 2007, 09:36:11 AM
Use the print button in the bottom right hand corner.  It creates a page that is easily printed.  I guess that is why it makes it easier to just speed scroll through it. It's in black and white.  You will know when you get there.

cool I got it!! thanks


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 09:38:09 AM
Muffy!  We have new toys and lots of fun.  Glad you could make it. 

Hey Honey, why am I showing a number where other people are showing logged? The blue number showing in my posts

I have been told it's your IP addy.  I think only you and Admin can see it.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MuffyBee on July 30, 2007, 09:38:24 AM
Muffy!  We have new toys and lots of fun.  Glad you could make it. 

Hey Honey, why am I showing a number where other people are showing logged? The blue number showing in my posts

Hey there back at ya'.  Take a look.  Everyone shows the blue number (number of posts) don't they?  And man, oh man.  Are you askin the wrong monkey about things on this new forum.   :lol:  I'm just tryin to get from post to page etc.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 09:38:48 AM
O/T

Anyone remember Tom Snyder?  He died over the weekend.

I do.  I enjoyed his late late show on television.  He had that dry sense of humor that not everyone can pull off.  I would stay up just to watch him.

I liked him in the early days, but he kind of lost his edge with time.  Didn't Saturday Night Live used to give him a hard time with the laugh?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 09:41:15 AM
Easy
I liked him better after he mellowed.  I guess it was because I was getting more mellow also at the time. LOL  Yes, Saturday Night Live enjoyed picking on him.  I always enjoyed hearing about his latest adventure with mother.  Do you remember how he would tell those stories?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: MuffyBee on July 30, 2007, 09:41:32 AM
Muffy!  We have new toys and lots of fun.  Glad you could make it. 

Hey Honey, why am I showing a number where other people are showing logged? The blue number showing in my posts

I have been told it's your IP addy.  I think only you and Admin can see it.

Whew.  Thanks Lala's.  I hadn't even noticed that number Lisa was referring to you.  Trying to get up to speed. :D


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 30, 2007, 09:42:49 AM
O/T

Anyone remember Tom Snyder?  He died over the weekend.


No kidding? He wasn't that old. How did he die Easy?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Lala'sMom on July 30, 2007, 09:45:09 AM
Another question for Dugga...does that IP addy  showing prevent those proxy thingys that everyone complains about?  (I bet he's tired of my questions already). 


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ldstlou on July 30, 2007, 09:46:22 AM
Another question for Dugga...does that IP addy  showing prevent those proxy thingys that everyone complains about?  (I bet he's tired of my questions already). 

glad I am not the only one lost...so thats an ip number?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Dayhiker on July 30, 2007, 09:46:27 AM
Anybody ever seen a photo of Rubberlegs Trappenberg and Joe Isuzu in the same room together?


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ldstlou on July 30, 2007, 09:47:18 AM
Muffy!  We have new toys and lots of fun.  Glad you could make it. 

Hey Honey, why am I showing a number where other people are showing logged? The blue number showing in my posts

I have been told it's your IP addy.  I think only you and Admin can see it.

Whew.  Thanks Lala's.  I hadn't even noticed that number Lisa was referring to you.  Trying to get up to speed. :D

me too...whew...when you click on it says no one else can see.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: ldstlou on July 30, 2007, 09:48:10 AM
well...have a great day Monkeys, I'll see you all tonight!!


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 09:53:48 AM
O/T

Anyone remember Tom Snyder?  He died over the weekend.


No kidding? He wasn't that old. How did he die Easy?

He was 71 and died of complications from lukemia.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 09:54:20 AM
GOODMORNING ALL!

Let's get this thread changed!   :lol:


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 09:55:47 AM
O/T

Anyone remember Tom Snyder?  He died over the weekend.


No kidding? He wasn't that old. How did he die Easy?

He was 71 and died of complications from lukemia.

I enjoyed watching him  :(


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: Easywriter on July 30, 2007, 09:56:24 AM
Another O/T - But there has to be more to this story!  :shock:

NEW YORK —  Police were seeking a woman for questioning in the castration and death of a 55-year-old man in the Rockaways section of Queens, a department spokesman said Sunday, MyFoxNY.com reported.


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 09:56:33 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/nowlocked.jpg)

Please move to LCD# 669


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1936.0


Title: Re: Lively Case Discussion #668 7/28 - 7/29/2007
Post by: klaasend on July 30, 2007, 09:56:58 AM
Another O/T - But there has to be more to this story!  :shock:

NEW YORK —  Police were seeking a woman for questioning in the castration and death of a 55-year-old man in the Rockaways section of Queens, a department spokesman said Sunday, MyFoxNY.com reported.

eeek  :shock: