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Title: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Red on September 01, 2007, 12:53:56 PM
I have seen recently an awful lot of complaining when it comes to talking about SM. Granted, I realize that some are just trying to cause problems as so many have done in the past. Always remember that the big picture of SM (Front page blog, forum, Missing Persons site & SM radio) has always been to help families, provide information in a community setting. Please remember that when the thought of complaining about a minor issue arises. We want people to participate and add things of interest, not just create issues and cause problems.

However, I would like people to focus on the positive not the negative. Please tell me what you like or appreciate about SM.

What would you like to see in the future that interests you? Thanks ...


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: klaasend on September 01, 2007, 01:06:46 PM
What I like about SM is that it continues to focus on the serious issue of missing persons and their families.  That SM continues to be in the forefront of blogs that allow the victims and their families to have a voice.   That we have so many talented members with great researching abilities.

I'm very thankful for Dugga and all the work Red and Dugga have done to improve SM.  I realize there will be some transitional issues and changes that need getting used to.  Time will resolve those. 

Kudos to Red and Dugga!


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Karo on September 01, 2007, 01:40:42 PM
I have 2 Internet "homes" where I spend 85-90% of my time on the Internet, which amounts to at least 70% of my free time.  They are my email account and SM.  Calling your site a home is the best compliment I can give you.  I feel comfortable here.  I am grateful for your hospitality! 

I have appreciated immensely being able to find info updates about Natalee and other missing persons here.  I have appreciated that there are so many intelligent and credible people here--in charge and members. 

Thank you  :)


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: MuffyBee on September 01, 2007, 02:23:23 PM
What I like about SM is that it continues to focus on the serious issue of missing persons and their families.  That SM continues to be in the forefront of blogs that allow the victims and their families to have a voice.   That we have so many talented members with great researching abilities.

I'm very thankful for Dugga and all the work Red and Dugga have done to improve SM.  I realize there will be some transitional issues and changes that need getting used to.  Time will resolve those. 

Kudos to Red and Dugga!

What Klaas has posted about sums up my feelings also.  I do go to the Front Page first, to see what's up.  And then onto the forum, say "hi" to the Monks and check the threads.  I am always hopeful for a bit of news or new development in Natalee's case.  It was Natalee that first brought me to SM, and through that I have been made aware of other missing and exploited and find that they too must be found and if they were harmed, to be bring to justice  those responsible.  :smt075 We have threads on News of the Day, Decorating, Music , Australia (love it, Tib), and many areas of interest.  I like them all.  Klaas, who is able to leap tall buildings at a single bound is a great Admin, and the Mods CBB, San and ******* are helpful.  Dugga has been patient with me when I send him emails trying to figure out why something does or doesn't happen and has an interesting sense of humor, adding a new dimension to the monkey family.  :smt103 And of course, there are the Reds, Mr. and Mrs.  :)   :smt052 Bless 'em both for all they do.  We know Mrs. Red is more than just a pretty face that like shoes.  She must be doing things behind the scenes and I have an inkling she gives up a lot of her time with Mr. Red for us at SM.  :smt045 Last but not least there is Red aka The Shadow.  I like what you have created Red, and I can't thank you enough for your tireless efforts.  The transition to the new forum hasn't been a problem for me.  I am still here. :) Don't really have any complaints, except about the complainers.  :smt076 LOL  Ps:  Did I forget to mention Dana and SM radio?    :smt020:  That's great stuff.  And I got to know about Texas Equuasearch and Tim Miller through SM. And that's a good thing. :thumright:


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on September 01, 2007, 02:33:57 PM
  A large amount of my time also is spent right here at SM and in case some of you don't see it or realize it  SM is a LARGE project !  it cannot be done in as professional manner as it has been by just a few members .
  We have grown to a Large Internet presence and a lot of people know the name and most when aware have so many questions that I could spend a week trying to explain it all to some of them .
  About cost's when you go on the Internet and form an interactive web site it cost's  you a lot both in real cash and in getting people to help with things like Moderating ( Thanks Klaas ) and engineering that in itself is a whole nother can of worms .
  So for the inconvenience of some pop ups which can be dealt with and the advertising that surely helps with the bills I can see little to gripe about  just as RED has said , any Takers  ? NOPE not a lot were there ?.
  Scared Monkeys is an organization that I for one am proud to be called a member of and when we help do a search IE: The Jessica Davis murder which I had a personal part in  of the one down by Columbus that Dihannah and a few other SM's had a part in  really drives home tha point that we
 ARE A PART OF SOMETHING BIG !  and that we as ordinary citizens can and do play a significant part in and are respected for doing so .
   So to my ending statement please do not allow a few dissenters that cannot see what we are doing here as valuable enough to endure a few problems  which are even now as we speak being worked upon  ( Thanks Dugga )  this will be for the for the greater GOOD  of an awful lot of folks that have loved ones missing and or  harmed  to get at least the closure that there are still good people out there that do care enough to put themselves out a little for .
  Thanks for everyone's time in reading my opinion .
    your friend from Ohio  Jerry from OhiO     :)









What I like about SM is that it continues to focus on the serious issue of missing persons and their families.  That SM continues to be in the forefront of blogs that allow the victims and their families to have a voice.   That we have so many talented members with great researching abilities.

I'm very thankful for Dugga and all the work Red and Dugga have done to improve SM.  I realize there will be some transitional issues and changes that need getting used to.  Time will resolve those. 

Kudos to Red and Dugga!


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: MalteseMom on September 01, 2007, 04:12:06 PM
I have seen recently an awful lot of complaining when it comes to talking about SM. Granted, I realize that some are just trying to cause problems as so many have done in the past. Always remember that the big picture of SM (Front page blog, forum, Missing Persons site & SM radio) has always been to help families, provide information in a community setting. Please remember that when the thought of complaining about a minor issue arises. We want people to participate and add things of interest, not just create issues and cause problems.

However, I would like people to focus on the positive not the negative. Please tell me what you like or appreciate about SM.

What would you like to see in the future that interests you? Thanks ...


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: MalteseMom on September 01, 2007, 04:19:48 PM
Sorry, I should have read the help section first.  I am a new member here and I do appreciate this forum and all the hard work that goes into it.  I have read here since June of 2005 and I am behind you guys all the way...don't change anything, luv the way it is set up know.  Very easy to navigate.  Thank you for letting me become a member.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: MuffyBee on September 01, 2007, 04:40:43 PM
Welcome to Sm MalteseMom :2waver:  Wow.  This is only your second post and you are posting under the appreciation thread?  That's nice :cool:


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 01, 2007, 05:58:19 PM
Hi Monkeys!
I have been reading here since about summer 2005.I would usually just stick with the front pages about Natalee.I would always copy SM's front page to the aol message boards,spread around some Monkey knowledge.
:)
I only wish I had started reading and posting in the SM forum way back when....you all don't know how much I appreciate ALL that you are doing here.
Thank you Scared Monkeys!
ps.....when I first started reading the front page I thought your name was Sacred Monkeys and that name has always fit what you all do here IMO.



Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: CJ1 on September 01, 2007, 08:56:51 PM
I found Scared Monkeys trying to find some worthwhile information on NAH and stayed because it was a friendly, intelligent group as opposed to most of what was available.  I read for a long time before joining and I feel like I know so many of you.  You all are a very caring bunch of monkeys.  If there is news out there, it will most probably be here first.  It was nice when you found Dana and got him onboard.  There needs to be more focus on victims rights and he does it well.  I knew about TES, but thank you for making a personal association with them.  I have joined TES so they know I am available if they are ever needed in my area.           


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: justinsmama on September 01, 2007, 09:57:18 PM
This is home, period.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: LouiseVargas on September 01, 2007, 11:30:02 PM
Dear Red,

I have spent several years of my life here on Scared Monkeys. It is wonderful and I have no complaints. I love it here.

Love, Louise


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: IndyDan on September 01, 2007, 11:49:15 PM
I have seen recently an awful lot of complaining when it comes to talking about SM. Granted, I realize that some are just trying to cause problems as so many have done in the past. Always remember that the big picture of SM (Front page blog, forum, Missing Persons site & SM radio) has always been to help families, provide information in a community setting. Please remember that when the thought of complaining about a minor issue arises. We want people to participate and add things of interest, not just create issues and cause problems.

However, I would like people to focus on the positive not the negative. Please tell me what you like or appreciate about SM.

What would you like to see in the future that interests you? Thanks ...

The popups make this blog look cheap and cheesy.  I know there are bills to pay and I understand the reason for them but they are put it on par with low level porn sites.
These PU have totally turned me off, I donate to everything and I'd be more than happy to donate to SM if I could be assured these nasty annoyances would stop - at least with my account.
Popups are the modern day high tech version of the Telephone solictors or worse - SPAM.
Tell me how much you need in real dollars to make this nightmare go away.  Imagine an FBI agent, a family member, a legal expert coming here looking for information and having to click thru popup hell.  There's a certain loss of credibility with this cheesyness.
I love this blog, been a loyal follower for over 2 years.  The popups suck.  At least give us an alternative.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Red on September 02, 2007, 12:25:59 AM
And what part about making this thread positive didn't quite everyone get?

Keep it up and people will be gone. I asked a simple question. What do you appreciate about this site. Any more comments about ads will be deleted.

Stunning that people cannot remain posting positive comments.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Observer on September 02, 2007, 01:51:53 AM
Even though I was a ******* for the first year of Natalee being missing this has always felt like home to me. Some of the most friendly,intelligent and honest people come here and I enjoy there research,opinions and there fight to make it right.. No hidden agendas,No trolls and just a honest place to search for the truth.Dana on SM Radio is a great person who does his homework and offers something very unique for the internet as opposed to MSM and a Chat Room. The more I know Red and Mrs.Red the more I realize why I call SM home. I think the world of Klaas and I hope she knows what a special lady she is..:2notworthy:

Scared Monkey's has the opportunity to be the premier missing persons site on the internet and I am happy to see SM adapt and prepare for the future. The Pop Ups and Ads dont bother me because I am looking at the bigger picture and I appreciate the work behind the scenes. Dugga looks like a cool person and a nice fit for SM. I look forward to seeing more of his work. Victims and Injustice deserve a voice and Natalee Holloway is a perfect example of what brought us all together. There are others who deserve that same support and I know together we can make that difference. Great place to share a laugh,talk to people from all over as well as discuss important issues like Football....Go Vikings!!  :viking:  :D


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: sharon on September 02, 2007, 09:46:32 AM
I was fortunate to find SM while searching for info on Natalee -- before there was even a forum.

And although I did not post, I did the 'paypal' thing because I thought it was the right thing to do. I had never been on a forum before, and felt privileged to be a part of this one. I still do.

I appreciate SM because they have kept Natalee's case alive.

I appreciate SM because klass is (hands down) the best admin on the net. :smt052

I appreciate SM because here -- unlike others blogs -- it is about Natalee.

I appreciate SM because -- unlike other blogs --  our precious hosts protect Natalee (and us posters) from being attacked, maligned and lied about by TROLLS. The trolls may still do it -- but not on THIS SITE. They've tried. They've failed (thank you SM)

I appreciate SM because the owners, the management and the posters -- will fight for justice for this innocent American teen until justice is served -- or until we are no longer of this earth. And I fully expect to have access to SM blog in heaven if Natalee still needs us to.

Thank you Red, Tom (in case he still reads), klaas and Mrs. Welcome Dugga -- and congratulations to all the new mods.



Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 02, 2007, 05:10:39 PM
This place, SM, that I've called home for over 2 yrs, is unlike any other forum I've EVER visited.  I have met so many special people and made many friends here.  What makes this new format more special, is it is more personal, the format has been personalized just for SM.  There is no other forum, I've ever seen that isn't just a generic format.  I don't know of any that has it's own radio, many topics of discussions to join and remained loyal to the very causes it originated for.  Natalee and other missing people.   We don't have to worry about trolls, we are protected here, no family bashings. 

I may never had known of TES so closely without SM, and may never have had taken the opportunity to meet Tim and join in a search, providing me an experience I'll never forget.

We have a prayer thread where we know people really care and many prayers have been answered.  But most important, just knowing that people really do care.  I've came here on days, I was feeling down myself and lifted up by people's sense of humor, or just somebody willing to listen.

I've seen people come and people go, over petty things before and just realize, we are a very diverse group with many personalities and many different talents.  There will always be some disagreements, but that is life.  If we can't deal with it here, how do we deal with it in real life?  You learn to agree to disagree!

My biggest theory in life?  You can't make everybody happy all of the time, so you do the best you can and hope people just appreciate your efforts.  Which I do very much appreciate SM and the special people who make it home.

The bottom line is, I very much appreciate what the Red's have done inside and outside of this forum.  Provided us rare opportunities to hear from people of missing people and other important people on SM Radio from a more personal perspective. We even get to call in and ask questions if we chose.

I also appreciate Dugga's hard work putting this all together and Klaas and San for all there hard work everyday.

So, if the worse thing I experience are a few pop-ups when I sign in?  Then so be it, It's a very small price to pay for what is offered here and what we have to take advantage of.  My only disappointment are those who seem to be making such a big deal out of it.

God Bless Red, Mrs. Red, Klaas, San and Dugga for all your hard work!
And also to all you wonderful Monkeys I've met here.


So, unless somebody can come up with something better than we have here,  I will always be here.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 02, 2007, 05:23:10 PM
Sorry, I forgot to mention one other thing.  Where else can we go to get personalized holiday avi's for EVERY holiday?  :wink:   
Thanks CBB!


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: IndyDan on September 04, 2007, 11:24:51 PM
And what part about making this thread positive didn't quite everyone get?

Keep it up and people will be gone. I asked a simple question. What do you appreciate about this site. Any more comments about ads will be deleted.

Stunning that people cannot remain posting positive comments.
Red,
I have an opinion and I stand by it.  If you want to censor that opinion, go ahead, you own the site.   I didn’t mean to offend, just offering some constructive criticism to a site I love.
I asked what I could do to help financially and the response was a threat of banishment. Never meant it to go in that direction. 
I wish you nothing but success with your site and stand tall by you hoping for justice for Natalee.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 05, 2007, 12:09:20 AM
I'm going to put in my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.  Obviously, some long time loyal long time monkeys have opinons/concerns about certain things on the new forum.  I don't believe anybody doesn't like or appreciate the new forum, just some features and new atmosphere that may bother some. 

Unfortunately, I've notice alot of old monkey friends have not been around much.  These same monkeys who have been around, remaining loyal and supportive of SM for at least two years.  Yes, posters can all be replaced, but I believe loyalty should mean something.  I can't speak for everybody, I know I have personally donated in the past via paypal.  I'm sure not everybody will do that, or may not be able to. 

As you can see, from my above post, my feelings of appreciation here.  So I guess, I'm trying to be a mediator?  Wrong or right, I am concerned about everybody's concerns, from both sides.

From an SM perspective, I can truly appreciate and understand the resources necessary to run a site like this and all it offers AND trying to keep everybody happy!

From posters perspective, I see they feel, as long time, loyal, supportive posters, they would like to be heard without feeling they are no longer a concern, but have some input, with some constructive (non-defensive), understanding feedback.  I saw a mass exodus a couple yrs. ago and don't want to see that again.  I love all who post here and feel they just need somebody to listen, but they also to speak in a meaningful, constructive way.  No attacks, no need to be on the defense.

I see so much tension and people on the defense.  It bothers me, feeling like I'm stuck in the middle, because I see both sides.

Here is an idea, it can be tossed as silly and meaningless,  or it can be considered for everybody's benifit,  I hope!

SM, needs financial resources to run such a great site.  I agree, subscriptions will not work for everybody.
Monkeys need to have there concerns taken seriously, but be constructive, not offensive. Maybe everybody can come up with a happy medium.

So what are the options?  What other means for advertisement are there.  I know one longtime, loyal, monkey, who had surgery,  has stated for medical purposes, the ads hurt there eyes.  Knowing this monkey and there medical condition, I completely understand.

So, Monkeys, please be constructive with your comments/concerns and SM needs to not be so defensive and consider those resources as meaningful ideas, without getting defensive or on the attack.

I'm only here, because I miss the cage, as it used to be.  And I mean All of us talking constructively, in a fun-loving manner, not the forum format.

We aren't going back, which is ok with me, as I like the new forum, but the older monkeys were the backbone of this forum and we need them to make it whole again, one way or another.

Can we make a suggestion thread, for those to make CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions.  Ignoring those who are negative, but responding to those who offer legitimate suggestions, in a positive manner?

I don't think it's the forum updates, as much as the new atomosphere here, that has run everybody off.  MONKEYS and ADMINS. we can work together.  We have so many smart resourseful people here.  Let's put our heads together and make it work for all!

Ok, I'm off my rant.  I'm not trying to offend anybody, only find a happy medium for all!

With Love......


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: klaasend on September 05, 2007, 01:11:32 AM
I created the thread below for FORUM ISSUES before Red created THIS thread called Scared Monkeys Appreciation.  The FORUM ISSUES thread is where complaints or constructive criticism of the forum changes should be made.  It's also in my signature line. 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2105.0

Red created this thread to see if anyone could think of the positive things about SM:

I have seen recently an awful lot of complaining when it comes to talking about SM. Granted, I realize that some are just trying to cause problems as so many have done in the past. Always remember that the big picture of SM (Front page blog, forum, Missing Persons site & SM radio) has always been to help families, provide information in a community setting. Please remember that when the thought of complaining about a minor issue arises. We want people to participate and add things of interest, not just create issues and cause problems.

However, I would like people to focus on the positive not the negative. Please tell me what you like or appreciate about SM.

What would you like to see in the future that interests you? Thanks ...


I'm just trying to point out what the purpose of this thread was supposed to be  :wink:


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 05, 2007, 03:55:25 PM
Thanks Klaas  :wink:

I was only trying to think of a way for monkeys to feel like they can provide input, such as suggestions or ideas for improvement, rather than just pointing out "issues" or problems.  It tends to come out sounding negative at times and I don't think that is everybody's intentions, but sometimes it's how it is taken?  I am just looking for that happy medium, where people can put there thoughts and suggestions down to be considered for future updates, rather than sounding like complaints or problems.

Monkeys who have been here from the beginning, who have openly and actively supported SM forever, believe there feelings aren't being heard correctly, or there feelings are just not important.  It's disheartening to some when they feel they have been loyal all these years and are suddenly getting threats of being banned, so they are getting discouraged and are leaving. 

On the otherhand, I realize, that some may over-complain, or not very diplomatic and that can be frustrating to Red and Dugga, understandably, they get defensive.

I hope that makes sense and you understand what I am getting at.  It is just a thought, in hopes to keep everybody happy and assist the Admins. in making this remain like home.  New home, but still the same cage.....


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: sleddogs on September 05, 2007, 04:24:37 PM
Red & Dugga,

I love the new monkey!!!

P.S.

I would never go up to a new mother and tell her that her baby is butt ugly. Good way to loose few teeth.

 :lol:



Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: klaasend on September 05, 2007, 04:47:42 PM
Thanks Klaas  :wink:

I was only trying to think of a way for monkeys to feel like they can provide input, such as suggestions or ideas for improvement, rather than just pointing out "issues" or problems.  It tends to come out sounding negative at times and I don't think that is everybody's intentions, but sometimes it's how it is taken?  I am just looking for that happy medium, where people can put there thoughts and suggestions down to be considered for future updates, rather than sounding like complaints or problems.

Monkeys who have been here from the beginning, who have openly and actively supported SM forever, believe there feelings aren't being heard correctly, or there feelings are just not important.  It's disheartening to some when they feel they have been loyal all these years and are suddenly getting threats of being banned, so they are getting discouraged and are leaving. 

On the otherhand, I realize, that some may over-complain, or not very diplomatic and that can be frustrating to Red and Dugga, understandably, they get defensive.

I hope that makes sense and you understand what I am getting at.  It is just a thought, in hopes to keep everybody happy and assist the Admins. in making this remain like home.  New home, but still the same cage.....

I changed the title to MY thread to FORUM ISSUES/SUGGESTIONS  :wink:


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: thecuz on September 05, 2007, 09:10:56 PM
i would just like to say that scared monkeys will always hold a special place in my heart...like many have said..it is a home..a safe place...one that has helped me through a lot of difficult times over the past 2&1/2 years! all efforts,time,energy,money,friendships are much appreciated by thecuz!


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: LouiseVargas on September 05, 2007, 11:18:10 PM
I offer up another big THANKS for this forum.

I've never been on a forum before. I explored others and their design, ease of use, the mood of the posters, etc. and no other board can compare to this one. This is a wonderful place.

I've met some dear friends here and have forged important relationships.

As I mentioned, I spent well over two years of my life here. We all posted about Natalee and theorized and theorized and theorized. And we are still doing it.

A big smoochie and thanks to the Reds, Scared Tom, Klaas and Dugga. I wub you.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: pdh3 on September 09, 2007, 08:08:51 PM
I have found support for both big and small issues here, prayers for me when I needed them, and kind words. I have made friends, and learned so much from reading posts expressing diverse opinions and ideas.
SM is about people. People coming together out of caring and concern for other people, and trying to help in any way that they can.
Out of something so sad, something wonderful came about. SM is a community that cares about missing people, children, our country, our military, and each other. It is a unique place. And I really believe the people here have made a difference.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Sam on September 14, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
This is going to be a very difficult post for me.I really and truly do not want it to sound negative.I also know there is the possibility that some will find it that way. Here goes...I also do not plan on naming many names. I think you will know yourself in here.

I appreciate the many caring posters I have met on the Scared Monkeys site in the past 2 + years. Yes there have been many. Those who will pray for strangers at the drop of a hat. Those who will join searches for missing folks they do not know.

I also appreciate the many , many posters who have done so much research trying to find answers for Natalee and her family and loved ones. Some of these have went on to have there own blogs but still come to Scared Monkeys either doing research or telling things they have discovered.

We all have had a common goal and that has been Justice for Natalee. We are all still praying for that.I appreciate Red and Tom for supplying this one of many forums set up for that purpose.

I appreciate Klaas and San for there dedication of always being there for us.

I have also always been a firm believer in trying to keep our posters from deserting or being banned. You have never heard me wanting anyone banned.

It does bother me when we are expected to follow a Borg mentality. We have seen what happens when that is not only encouraged but expected.Some good examples are the Jonestown massacre as well as the Branch Dravidian's.Thank God there were some folks who managed to get out of those situations.

I was raised to think for myself, Not to succumb to peer pressure. I was also raised as a liberated female long before Womens Lib. Yet it does not truly offend me like it does some to be called a broad or a cow ( I breast fed) or a Grannie.In my case I believe I am all those things. For others those terms are offensive.

I have never heard anyone say in chat or in email that they want to see Scared Monkeys fail.I enjoy chat and am glad Carnut set it up for us.

I still hate the popups and of course I hate that some are allowed to express their opinions while others are not. JMHO



Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 16, 2007, 12:05:31 AM
I enjoy the many topics that exist here.  There is something for everybody. I truly enjoy the diversity and the knowledge/many talents of other posters.  They enlighten, encouage and inspire me and make me think things through more thoroughly.  There is such a vast amount of information on all topics!  And not to mention some very special friends.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 16, 2007, 12:20:01 AM
This is going to be a very difficult post for me.I really and truly do not want it to sound negative.I also know there is the possibility that some will find it that way. Here goes...I also do not plan on naming many names. I think you will know yourself in here.

I appreciate the many caring posters I have met on the Scared Monkeys site in the past 2 + years. Yes there have been many. Those who will pray for strangers at the drop of a hat. Those who will join searches for missing folks they do not know.

I also appreciate the many , many posters who have done so much research trying to find answers for Natalee and her family and loved ones. Some of these have went on to have there own blogs but still come to Scared Monkeys either doing research or telling things they have discovered.


We all have had a common goal and that has been Justice for Natalee. We are all still praying for that.I appreciate Red and Tom for supplying this one of many forums set up for that purpose.

I appreciate Klaas and San for there dedication of always being there for us.

I have also always been a firm believer in trying to keep our posters from deserting or being banned. You have never heard me wanting anyone banned.

It does bother me when we are expected to follow a Borg mentality. We have seen what happens when that is not only encouraged but expected.Some good examples are the Jonestown massacre as well as the Branch Dravidian's.Thank God there were some folks who managed to get out of those situations.

I was raised to think for myself, Not to succumb to peer pressure. I was also raised as a liberated female long before Womens Lib. Yet it does not truly offend me like it does some to be called a broad or a cow ( I breast fed) or a Grannie.In my case I believe I am all those things. For others those terms are offensive.

I have never heard anyone say in chat or in email that they want to see Scared Monkeys fail.I enjoy chat and am glad Carnut set it up for us.

I still hate the popups and of course I hate that some are allowed to express their opinions while others are not. JMHO




Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 16, 2007, 12:54:49 AM
Oops!  I hit enter before I finished my quote of SAM's points.

I wanted to point out what Sam said, because I read her thread after  my last appreciation thread.  As you know, I try to stay neutral, and am always honest with what I say, as I stated what I like about SM. But I am truly concerned about a few things Sam has brought up.  From my own experience and observations, I find it true, that SM is becoming a little to much anti-freedom of speech.   Opinions and concerns are immediately taken as "negative, complaining".

I more than anything appreciate the mods. and Red's for monitoring the anti-bashing of families and victims, but why can't people state there concerns on other things?  Aren't these the very monkeys who have been here loyaly, as I've spoken in previous posts above?   I saw a post where Sam was edited, but not sure why?  Does SM truly care about those who have been loyal and loving monkeys for 2+ years, who were major supporters and even helped in any means possible/available to them,  to assist funding SM with either donations or purchasing items? Suddenly those very monkeys concerns are just a thorn in somebody's side now?  As much as I love SM, as I know others do to, I am disappointed in how suddenly some are being treated as sudden enemies (complainers, as though there concerns are a pain in the @ss). 

As Dugga says, who has been here a short time (I appreciate what he's done, so no bashing), for every monkey who leaves, there are 3 more to join?  I just happen to be a very loyal person and guess I expect the same from those I care about (all SM Monkeys, that aren't blatantly obnoxious).   What is up with SM becoming so defensive and pushing away those who helped make them who they are today?  All the research they put in and contributed in the NH case!?

I love SM for many reasons, but very disappointed in how the some old monkeys are being treated.  Like Sam said, even in chat, nobody wants SM to fail, they just want the loyalty returned and appreciated.  Where do you think alot of the references and documentation originally came from?  Lord,  I am so disappointed and hope that SM would appreciate all the efforts and contributions of those to NH case are provided the treatment they deserve. And we could have more freedom of speech (with limits of course, but more than what exists now).

Remember, I am one who sees both sides and am trying to be neutral here, but I am seeing things a little unfair and feel the need to speak out!   For my old monky friends and new alike!   

Don't EVER forget who helped you get where you are and helped provide the info. you have on the NH case!

With love,

Di

p.s. Just feel passionate about what is going on and feel the need to speak out.  Hope you appreciate that.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: klaasend on September 16, 2007, 01:33:57 AM
Sam and Dihannah - I'm leaving your posts stand but if you look at the beginning of this thread, Red asked specifically for it to be what you Appreciate without the complaints.

I created a complaint/issue thread and it's in my signature line. 

The topic of this thread is:

I have seen recently an awful lot of complaining when it comes to talking about SM. Granted, I realize that some are just trying to cause problems as so many have done in the past. Always remember that the big picture of SM (Front page blog, forum, Missing Persons site & SM radio) has always been to help families, provide information in a community setting. Please remember that when the thought of complaining about a minor issue arises. We want people to participate and add things of interest, not just create issues and cause problems.

However, I would like people to focus on the positive not the negative. Please tell me what you like or appreciate about SM.

What would you like to see in the future that interests you? Thanks ...


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: klaasend on September 16, 2007, 01:42:56 AM
Nobody is being pushed away, that's what I don't understand.  The format of the forum has changed, that is all.  Some of you don't like that.  What do you want Red to do, change it back? 

Some of you have CHOSEN to step away because you either don't like the forum or you don't like the ads.  It's as if you are telling Red, change it back or we are leaving.  I can tell you that the format of the forum will not go back to what it was.  As far as the ads go, Dugga and Red may change to different ads...who knows? 

We don't like to see members leave but what are we supposed to do?
 


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 16, 2007, 01:59:51 AM
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Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: MuffyBee on September 16, 2007, 02:10:20 PM
ap·pre·ci·a·tion      /əˌpriʃiˈeɪʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pree-shee-ey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.   gratitude; thankful recognition: They showed their appreciation by giving him a gold watch.

Thank you Red, Mrs. Red, Dugga, Klaas, San and ******* for all of the extraordinary things you have done to bring us Scared Monkeys.  I am proud to be a part of the family.  I have enjoyed making new friends in faraway places, and found I have some monkey friends just right down the road.  And thank you to all the monkeys here that make up the Scared Monkeys Family. 

I like the front page, which is my first stop.  I have enjoyed Dana's show (thank you Dana!).  Thank you for making this forum available for the missing and exploited.  If we can help find just one person, it will have all been worth it.  I got to know about Tim Miller through Scared Monkeys.  It is said we are judged by the company we keep. I guess I'm okay, because I'm in great company with the monkeys. Thank you all!  Please accept my appreciation for everything you've given us.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: mrs. red on September 16, 2007, 02:26:47 PM
many, many of you come on and defend some posters without knowing all that has been said behind the scenes... people send emails to red (which as this person knows will never see the light of day) telling us that they are going to make sure we are single handedly destroyed... and when they get banned on other sites, never not once do these same "defenders" go there and tell the mods and owners how bad that blog sucks... it wouldn't be allowed..but you are all damn sure to do it here

why we are supposed to be happy about that is beyond me... I don't think that y'all DO see both sides , you can't ... you just see it when I finally reach a frustration point that I try very hard to express why and how things are happening only to hear what a bitch I am or how awful we are or how ... even though there is ONLY endless bashing of us lately .... we don't allow comments...

What Sam said to LV was uncalled for... if you want tolerance, practice tolerance....

I have no idea why taking Natalee's case into it's own place was such an issue... we didn't say that you couldn't say whatever in musings... but I have been slapped down three of four times for talking about mascara from more than one posters.... and that is what the thread is for... don't want to talk mascara... change the subject... y'all used to do that all the time... but now .. oh hell NO! instead come on make a hit and run post and tell me how I shouldn't dare speak of MASCARA when you (the collective - not you DiHannah) wants to discuss something else, and then be sure to tell me how bad I suck, Red sucks and run off without saying another word...

Yes, that would be tolerance....

I will say I have learned a LOT of life lessons thanks to y'all though... and like a very wise poster said the other day - I have considered all of you friends.. and wow, how fast that turned.... makes me wonder if all the emails that have been sent were ever part of the truth????

Friends, is this really how you treat friends?? I have gotten some truly evil emails lately over a comment I DID NOT MAKE AND DID NOT SEE.. but not one of you ever sent me the offending post... I do not and cannot see everything... and can't fix what I don't see...

so fwiw... i am finished with the topic. It has been more than abundately clear that you really do think we suck... and I am tired of having this ... we aren't bashing you but you suck conversation...

you keep expressing it's how you feel... etc... just telling you how I feel... like I for whatever reason think for one second you care.. because it's very apparent that you don't.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Red on September 16, 2007, 02:32:18 PM
This thread was set up for one reason and one reason only, what did people appreciate about this site. It is telling that some cannot even do that and follow directions, but instead feel the continual need to gripe.

Appreciation(definition)

For some who seem to have a problem with what the word appreciation means, please read the following definition.

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1. Recognition of the quality, value, significance, or magnitude of people and things.
2. A judgment or opinion, especially a favorable one.
3. An expression of gratitude.
4. Awareness or delicate perception, especially of aesthetic qualities or values.
5. A rise in value or price, especially over time.

That does not mean using the old, "yea, but" phrase.
Staring out with a compliment only to really try to may a negative comment. I can read those anywhere.

I would really question those that would make the "freedom of speech" comment as people have been given multiple chances on this forum against my better judgment. In many circumstances they have resorted back to ways and comments that can only mean they wish to have their vocal rights taken away. SM, takes the high road and does not share the emails that contain threats; however, trust me they do exists.

Here is the reality. Posting in a forum is like being a guests in someone's home. It is not an open forum like a park where you believe you have the right to do and say anything. There are rules, no different than you have in your own homes when guests come over.

You have the right to have a respectful discussion no different as if they were sitting in my living room. You do not have the right to be rude by putting their feet on my furniture, nor curse in my home, nor threaten me or my family.

The purpose is to debate and converse issues no differently if you were discussing them with me face to face. One thing you do not have the right to do is the criticize how I decorate my home or the color I paint my walls. That would be rather rude wouldn't it for me to enter you home and say your eye for decorum stinks, or you should have a different color carpet or you have no idea of fashion sense what-so-ever.

One can only do that about their own home, in their own home.

Nothing we are doing here is an effort to nor make you stay, you are wishing to leave.

Once again I will put forth the question and see if ALL can respond to the answer and not see fit to once again try and complain ... This is a positive question, I will see if there are those that can only dwell in a self-serving negative way.

WHAT DO YOU APPRECIATE ABOUT SCARED MONKEYS?

We shall see if ALL can follow direction.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Red on September 16, 2007, 02:34:40 PM
ap·pre·ci·a·tion      /əˌpriʃiˈeɪʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pree-shee-ey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.   gratitude; thankful recognition: They showed their appreciation by giving him a gold watch.

Thank you Red, Mrs. Red, Dugga, Klaas, San and ******* for all of the extraordinary things you have done to bring us Scared Monkeys.  I am proud to be a part of the family.  I have enjoyed making new friends in faraway places, and found I have some monkey friends just right down the road.  And thank you to all the monkeys here that make up the Scared Monkeys Family. 

I like the front page, which is my first stop.  I have enjoyed Dana's show (thank you Dana!).  Thank you for making this forum available for the missing and exploited.  If we can help find just one person, it will have all been worth it.  I got to know about Tim Miller through Scared Monkeys.  It is said we are judged by the company we keep. I guess I'm okay, because I'm in great company with the monkeys. Thank you all!  Please accept my appreciation for everything you've given us.

Thank you MB, as I was writing you had the same train of thought.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: mrs. red on September 16, 2007, 02:35:52 PM
ap·pre·ci·a·tion      /əˌpriʃiˈeɪʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pree-shee-ey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.   gratitude; thankful recognition: They showed their appreciation by giving him a gold watch.

Thank you Red, Mrs. Red, Dugga, Klaas, San and ******* for all of the extraordinary things you have done to bring us Scared Monkeys.  I am proud to be a part of the family.  I have enjoyed making new friends in faraway places, and found I have some monkey friends just right down the road.  And thank you to all the monkeys here that make up the Scared Monkeys Family. 

I like the front page, which is my first stop.  I have enjoyed Dana's show (thank you Dana!).  Thank you for making this forum available for the missing and exploited.  If we can help find just one person, it will have all been worth it.  I got to know about Tim Miller through Scared Monkeys.  It is said we are judged by the company we keep. I guess I'm okay, because I'm in great company with the monkeys. Thank you all!  Please accept my appreciation for everything you've given us.

THANK YOU MUFFY BEE....


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 16, 2007, 02:47:55 PM
I appreciate what you all have done for me,I will always appreciate your kind deeds for others.I don't understand a lot of what is going on in most threads,good or bad but I do know the hard work you here at scaredmonkeys have put into this blog,more than a blog.
Your unselfishness amazes me and keeps my faith in other's kindness in tip top shape.
I want to thank you all from my whole,smishy heart,
Thank YOU!
{{{{{Big Monkey Hugs}}}}}


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: SunFreak2 on September 16, 2007, 08:24:54 PM
 I was always so proud to be a Monkey.  I thank you for that priveledge.

I do miss all the other monkeys who have stopped posting.  I appreciated them too.  They always made me feel warm and welcome.



Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: justinsmama on September 16, 2007, 08:57:39 PM
I was always so proud to be a Monkey.  I thank you for that priveledge.

I do miss all the other monkeys who have stopped posting.  I appreciated them too.  They always made me feel warm and welcome.



Dittos all around on what SF wrote.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: tcumom on September 16, 2007, 09:19:16 PM
This is the one and only forum I've ever been involved in...

I loved being a monkey from the beginning ~ June 13, 2005. 

Loved the camaraderie ~ didn't particularly love the reason that we all came together ~ that being Natalee Holloway. 

Loved the fact that *we* were working together to try and figure out how it all happened.  What could we all do?  Lots of brainstorming. 

When things were slow, we still came together and spent that time bonding and getting to know one another.  What a great opportunity which we all appreciated.

I felt we were a family ~ always loved everyone ~ sometimes there were spats, of course......but isn't that what happens with families.

For me, my personal opinion only......the monkeys in the cage are who *made* this forum what it was/is today.  Yes, Red, you and Tom were the birth parents and we thank you both for that. 

I appreciate what we have done together to perpetuate the cause of Natalee Holloway, and yes, other missing persons, too.

Because this is an appreciation thread, I will say that I appreciate that Dugga and Red made changes which they believed would work well.  Perhaps they have been positive changes. 

I don't see that, but I appreciate that you think they've been positive changes.

It's wishful thinking, but gosh, I hope you all can look and see how many dedicated, intelligent, wonderful monkey members are MIA.  And why are they MIA?

I appreciate that there will always be future monkeys to take the original spots, BUT there will never be monkeys to replace those who have taken their hearts and hopes, and disappeared.

Thank you for the opportunity to post my appreciation in this thread.

TCUMOM / Joan


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on September 16, 2007, 09:35:45 PM
This is the one and only forum I've ever been involved in...

I loved being a monkey from the beginning ~ June 13, 2005. 

Loved the camaraderie ~ didn't particularly love the reason that we all came together ~ that being Natalee Holloway. 

Loved the fact that *we* were working together to try and figure out how it all happened.  What could we all do?  Lots of brainstorming. 

When things were slow, we still came together and spent that time bonding and getting to know one another.  What a great opportunity which we all appreciated.

I felt we were a family ~ always loved everyone ~ sometimes there were spats, of course......but isn't that what happens with families.

For me, my personal opinion only......the monkeys in the cage are who *made* this forum what it was/is today.  Yes, Red, you and Tom were the birth parents and we thank you both for that. 

I appreciate what we have done together to perpetuate the cause of Natalee Holloway, and yes, other missing persons, too.

Because this is an appreciation thread, I will say that I appreciate that Dugga and Red made changes which they believed would work well.  Perhaps they have been positive changes. 

I don't see that, but I appreciate that you think they've been positive changes.

It's wishful thinking, but gosh, I hope you all can look and see how many dedicated, intelligent, wonderful monkey members are MIA.  And why are they MIA?

I appreciate that there will always be future monkeys to take the original spots, BUT there will never be monkeys to replace those who have taken their hearts and hopes, and disappeared.

Thank you for the opportunity to post my appreciation in this thread.

TCUMOM / Joan

  TCUMOM ~!!  Great post  :)

I appreciate SM and all of the wonderful folks as well.. and miss those as well MIA.
 I neevr was involved in any forum either. Well.. I take that back. Read  Petersons case on AOL message boards.. and YIKEs such mean nasty people. I refrained from posting there.
  We were all brought together for a reason.. Natalee Holloway.  Thats the reason why I joined long long ago. Made some wonderful friends along the way.. even ones who think I hate their guts.. I dont. We all have our differences.
 WHat family don't? I think as our SM members as an extended family.
I really didnt know what to post here, because I am not an ass kisser.  I think most al know by now I speak my mind.. may not be pretty at times.. but thats just me on ocassion. I have tryed to learn to sit on my hands anymore and not hit sumbit. Just like I have to watch my mouth at work sometimes  :)  I wont change who I am ,, I am me,.,.and.. sorry if anyone has a problem with it.  I wont pretend to be someone I am not.   :cool:


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: klaasend on September 16, 2007, 09:37:22 PM
Must not be many real ISSUES as none of you are posting in the thread created for issues/concerns:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2105.0

Angie wrote:

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I really didnt know what to post here, because I am not an ass kisser.  I think most al know by now I speak my mind.. may not be pretty at times.. but thats just me on ocassion. I have tryed to learn to sit on my hands anymore and not hit sumbit. Just like I have to watch my mouth at work sometimes    I wont change who I am ,, I am me,.,.and.. sorry if anyone has a problem with it.  I wont pretend to be someone I am not.


This thread was for members to post positive things about SM.  It was not a REQUIRED thread, nobody said you had to post here or kiss anyones ASS.

If you have a problem or issue or concern it needs to be posted in the proper thread.  It has been said numerous times in this thread but you and others continue to IGNORE that fact.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Red on September 17, 2007, 12:51:17 AM
Must not be many real ISSUES as none of you are posting in the thread created for issues/concerns:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2105.0

Angie wrote:

Quote
I really didnt know what to post here, because I am not an ass kisser.  I think most al know by now I speak my mind.. may not be pretty at times.. but thats just me on ocassion. I have tryed to learn to sit on my hands anymore and not hit sumbit. Just like I have to watch my mouth at work sometimes    I wont change who I am ,, I am me,.,.and.. sorry if anyone has a problem with it.  I wont pretend to be someone I am not.


This thread was for members to post positive things about SM.  It was not a REQUIRED thread, nobody said you had to post here or kiss anyones ASS.

If you have a problem or issue or concern it needs to be posted in the proper thread.  It has been said numerous times in this thread but you and others continue to IGNORE that fact.


So much for being a guest in one's home. No one forces you to post in this thread. If you cannot find anything that you appreciate about SM, DON"T POST!!!

So much for the positive in this thread as I stated above. Its not about "kissing ass", Its about having respect for a web site and all the hard work that goes into it.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on September 17, 2007, 01:38:52 AM
If I didnt have respect do yah think I would not be here after 2 years for crying out loud? I have helped in more ways then YOU know.. TRUST ME.   :2doh:


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: GreatOwl on September 17, 2007, 08:51:41 AM
SM is far more than a forum to support the cause of the Holloway case.  It is true that many people came together to share ideas, discuss and even participate actively in supporting that cause that consumed much of one year.  During that time we have all seen people come and go.

What does not elude me is that SM was here before Natalee Holloway went missing and it has certainly become one of the best forums to discuss all missing persons.  It was not created as a forum for NH.  There has been a natural evolution, which has taken place.  I am certainly not one who thinks of this as an extended family, yet I communicate with several of its members even beyond these threads.  I have those who have left the forum long ago who communicate with me because we have certain needs or interests in common.

I have had others help me with genealogy issues, sports questions, travel issues and questions, ( TY to Mrs. Red as our trip to Boston was a very enjoyable one).  I have discussed movies, music, weather, crime, some politics, and a mired of other issues both within the forum and outside.  It has given me a base to expand upon and understand the views and interests of others.

This continues to be a “free” forum while so many others have turned to membership fees.  I prefer to continue to read here as I did before NH.  I have made suggestions over the years, however, it is not my place to demand.  In the beginning I was reading political and other opinions from the news of the day.  I still continue to do so.  I am always interested in how others view our ever-changing world.  There are written statements here that I certainly disagree with and could never support.  I do sometimes seek to understand why someone would feel the way they do.  It is not my place to try to change their view of life, only to understand it.

I do not subscribe to a “love it or leave it “ philosophy because I have learned long ago that a person must expose themselves to thoughts and ideas which are contrary to their own if they wish to grow as a person.  I suppose I have grown more than most here since I am probably older than most. (tongue in cheek)  I suspect that as the months passed after the disappearance of NH we gradually lost many of the younger members and that our average age of maturity has increased numerically and hopefully mentally.

Thank you SM for providing the service and opportunities that you do.



Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 17, 2007, 09:12:29 AM
What I like about SM is that it continues to focus on the serious issue of missing persons and their families.  That SM continues to be in the forefront of blogs that allow the victims and their families to have a voice.   That we have so many talented members with great researching abilities.

I'm very thankful for Dugga and all the work Red and Dugga have done to improve SM.  I realize there will be some transitional issues and changes that need getting used to.  Time will resolve those. 

Kudos to Red and Dugga!

What Klaas has posted about sums up my feelings also.  I do go to the Front Page first, to see what's up.  And then onto the forum, say "hi" to the Monks and check the threads.  I am always hopeful for a bit of news or new development in Natalee's case.  It was Natalee that first brought me to SM, and through that I have been made aware of other missing and exploited and find that they too must be found and if they were harmed, to be bring to justice  those responsible.  :smt075 We have threads on News of the Day, Decorating, Music , Australia (love it, Tib), and many areas of interest.  I like them all.  Klaas, who is able to leap tall buildings at a single bound is a great Admin, and the Mods CBB, San and ******* are helpful.  Dugga has been patient with me when I send him emails trying to figure out why something does or doesn't happen and has an interesting sense of humor, adding a new dimension to the monkey family.  :smt103 And of course, there are the Reds, Mr. and Mrs.  :)   :smt052 Bless 'em both for all they do.  We know Mrs. Red is more than just a pretty face that like shoes.  She must be doing things behind the scenes and I have an inkling she gives up a lot of her time with Mr. Red for us at SM.  :smt045 Last but not least there is Red aka The Shadow.  I like what you have created Red, and I can't thank you enough for your tireless efforts.  The transition to the new forum hasn't been a problem for me.  I am still here. :) Don't really have any complaints, except about the complainers.  :smt076 LOL  Ps:  Did I forget to mention Dana and SM radio?    :smt020:  That's great stuff.  And I got to know about Texas Equuasearch and Tim Miller through SM. And that's a good thing. :thumright:

I am going to hop on to both Klaas' and Muffy's post...I found SM after reading at several other forums....I read for a long time before I decided to post....SM was the only place that I was about to get REAL information about Natalee....I was so impressed with the monkey's and the resarch abilities of some......How does one adequately thank Red and Mrs. Red for all they have given to us....for the time and money and personal commitment to SM?  And to Klaas who gives so freely of her time and expertise......and now the other MODs and DUGGA...and of course DANA..these are SPECIAL PEOPLE.....we have so many special people on this forum.....because of SM I joined TES....one of the BEST things I have ever done in my life.....because of SM I have met some amazing people and formed life long friendships...because of SM missing people now have a VOICE...do I appreciate SM?  You better believe it...I may not have the eloquent words to express it.....but I hope everyone knows what's in my heart.  Along with all the good people we have had some real stinkers.....but those people are so insignificant in the REAL world of SM...are they aggravating? YES!  Do they push the LIMITS? Yes!! Do they cause problems? YES!  Have some become more than a nuisance? YES! YES! YES! Have some THREATENED THE REDS...YES!!!  Some have  tried and failed to start their own forum and get followers...but they failed....smug little people who thought they KNEW how to run a forum better than SM...these little people had no idea what it takes to keep a forum like SM...or keep a forum going....so they come crawling back to SM....but they don't leave their ego with their failure....NO...they bring it right back to SM...thereby proving their 'little people' status. When SM changed to the new format....some people had trouble adjusting and instead of just trying to work it out they decided to BITCH about it....over and over and over.....and then the bitching turned really nasty..are the ads bothersome? Yes....but it's takes a second to click them away...it takes longer to post a BITCH/RANT about them than it does to click on them.....

I will be here at SM until I am banned and even then I will read and continue to be amazed at the amazing people that are SM!!


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 17, 2007, 09:30:41 AM
This is going to be a very difficult post for me.I really and truly do not want it to sound negative.I also know there is the possibility that some will find it that way. Here goes...I also do not plan on naming many names. I think you will know yourself in here.

SNIPPED


I still hate the popups and of course I hate that some are allowed to express their opinions while others are not. JMHO



Sam....I am going to disagree with your last line.....everyone is and has been allowed to express their opinions as long as it is done respectfully..and that's another thing that I appreciate about SM....there are a lot of posts that IMO should have been removed...but it wasn't my decision....I have always TRIED to post respectfully....but I know at times I have crossed the respectful line...ON PURPOSE..(snakes and slime IMO do not deserve respect IMO) knowing I was taking a chance of being banned.....fortunately the owners and MODs have allowed me to stay....I have seen people (snakes and slime too) leave SM to start their own forums....most failed and some even came crawling on their bellies back to SM so they could have an AUDIENCE. I appreciate SM that they are the place where people can and do get a second chance!


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Tiger on September 18, 2007, 08:00:44 PM
Oh my I went to Sm,for NAH.I like sm,but some are offensive and rude.I will get jumped for this,but some use this thread,for personal agendas.I do not. :D I do like the work done by the Reds,Tom and Klass.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: MsVada on September 18, 2007, 10:42:01 PM
I love this site.  I've been here since June 05  I too call it home, It is the first place I go to catch the daily news. 

I have enjoyed getting to know many posters here. 

Thanks Red and everyone who have made this site worth coming to :D


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Tiger on September 19, 2007, 10:23:54 AM
who has threatened the REDS.That goes to far,and we should know.i support NAH and the   The efforts to find the missing.I do not understand some,but I support Scared Monkeys and the work of Red,Tom,and Klass.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Tiger on September 20, 2007, 10:52:34 AM
Yes,I like sm.But I do not like being jumped and lied about.When some admit they cross the line,this goes to far.I have never hurt anyone here on purpose or by accident.I will try to be respectful and postive,but this hard at times.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Anna on September 20, 2007, 11:18:39 AM
I continue to get no pop ups.  I wonder if I am the only one and what is unique to my system that prevents this.  My sons configured my security and I have no problem reading all the the threads so I certainly have no complaints about the ads as I never see them.

I was reading the Front Page long before I joined the forum for news and politics and came here after being banned from RWV, one of my accomplishments in life.  At first I was very intimidated by the format as it seemed there were hundreds of threads running everywhere but I eventually adjusted.  I wish some of our posters who left would have given it more of a try.

I personally like the new format much better and think SM will remain on the cutting edge in the cause of the Missing and Exploited.  Sadly, there are more and more of them every single day and all are deserving of support and any assistance that is possible.

Thanks to all those who have made this possible:  The Reds, Klaas, Dugga and now our new mods.

Anna


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: tidycat on October 04, 2007, 12:16:01 AM
BOY!!  Have I missed this place!!   :smt052

I don't come here very often at all any more (I don't get on the computer much any more).  But I do think about ScaredMonkeys because I love Red and Mrs. Red and Klaasend and San and many others.  I just assume there are some great discussions going on and investigations too.  I check in sometimes to see what's new.  There is always a prayer thread, sometimes specially for someone with a problem and I doubt you can find that anywhere else. 

That's what I appreciate about this place.  I didn't like the new format, but it's been so long now that I've forgotten the old one!  This is just fine, because I can see friends here and photos about the Natalee case, etc.

Love you guys and gals!

tidycat :roll:


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: SarahD on October 05, 2007, 10:41:25 PM
I just want to say thank you to the owners and the administrators of this site for giving me a great place to read and comment.  I LOVE the front page and try to read there as often as I can.

I also love the forum format.  It's very easy to use even for me.   I'm sure that a lot of work goes into keeping things running smoothly and you all do a fabulous job.

I've not been a Monkey long but I hope to be around for quite a while.   I've really enjoyed how friendly people are here.   Thank you.


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: crazybabyborg on October 07, 2007, 10:22:05 AM
I woke up to this post this morning. I think it appropriately belongs here.

Quote from: IBE  on Today at 01:55:07 AM
Quote from: crazybabyborg on October 06, 2007, 07:39:16 PM


I know it's not the same, but the website created for the victims of the car wreck Mom was killed in, meant the world to me. The comments and posts from total strangers were often my comfort in the wee hours of the morning when I felt so lost. I'm glad this thread is just about Natalee, and that it's here if she (referring to Beth) should ever need it.



CBB, yes, I think that is where the collective Greatist Good comes in.

Wouldn't it be wonderful for Natalee to read all of this... It would take her at least a year...We would be so happy to have her and to see her;; then hear her comments.

Beth, Matt, Beth's Mom, Dave, Jug, Robin, the cousins, the cat, all relatives and friends, including her Monkey Friends would be overjoyed.

If that isn't going to happen, maybe she is here now egging us on, saying "let's roll,' being so strong, helping her mom, being proud of her mom, side by side doing Good so boys and girls when  traveling Inernationally and in the States won't sadden their mom by not coming home,

Sometimes when I am with the Donna Jou Mom and Dad, Aunt and Unkle and Tim Miller of TES TexasEquuaSearch I fell Natalee is with is. Talking to us of areas or vib feelings to open our eyes to.

Maybe I am not making much sense.. words don't always say the subtle feeling that go on.

******************************************************

I don't think there is any better way to know what Scared Monkeys is than to observe the fruits of its' labor. Look at the heart of the sentiments that have welled up and been given legs because this place "is". Examine the source of the outpouring and you will find love, compassion, empathy, hope, and concern for those who are in pain. These things have been given a fertile place in which to thrive and they have been carefully tended.

Thank you, Red and Mrs. Red, for so painstakingly giving us root. Apple trees don't come from acorns and you chose to use your own values and character when you planted. I'm so grateful to have the opportunity to grow among you. Here, the Son shines.
 


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: oldfart on October 13, 2007, 10:44:35 PM
Ok.. I've put this off for a lot of reasons
Mostly because I do not have a large vocabulary and NOT Good with Words so I'm still not sure if this will come out correctly.

As RED asked
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However, I would like people to focus on the positive not the negative. Please tell me what you like or appreciate about SM.
Before I answer I want to state a few things:

I only visit a fraction of the areas that available here for open / honest discussion or available in those areas for just chatting at times,  so I can not judge all areas.  I have NO idea how many hours go into just monitoring the site let as lone doing the FP articles.
I participate if very few other sites. For the most part this is my main site.  Why?   Most of the time I feel Comfy here.. which may be a good or bad thing.
I still carry my bag of SALT  (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/6e101d32.jpg) with me no matter where I go.  But that is just me.

There are very, very few times that I have the desire or passion to attempt to argue / convince others that I am correct on something.  I'm also not big on voicing my speculation of what may or not be.  When I think I have an idea / thought that may assist others... then yes I can get vocal for bit.

Do I appreciate that others can come here get passionate on stuff or debate whatever or talk about family, cooking, books,  say a prayer for someone we have never met to rally support for people those we may never meet OR  question what is going on in the world... To find a common ground on subjects ..   even if it just to have a good laugh or cry.

You bet your sweet bippy I do!!

I try not to add to the negative (that you will find no matter where you look) and try not to be too off-tipic in a particular area.

On second thought I'm not even going to attempt to RED's question of "Please tell me what you like or appreciate about SM".
I do not have the words... kinda like a spouse / significant other trying to answer a similar question.. I think most people just cannot find words  but hat is JMO.

The best that I can to at this time is this the tone of this music "Say It Right"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO6SnX9s5-w   
But you have to change the lyrics http://www.elyrics.net/read/n/nelly-furtado-lyrics/say-it-right-lyrics.html
Either -- ignore or make A positive from " Oh you don't mean nothing at all to me  - No you don't mean nothing at all to me"  and maybe change a few other words.

OH..  if anyone ever plans visit the Abraham Presidential Library let me know...You can come over put your feet up and we can Chat and maybe debate somethings.

Thanks SM   and your creators


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on October 13, 2007, 10:57:02 PM
Gotta love Oldfart...love to read his posts....and I know deep thought  & feeling goes into them...can feel it myself....jmho, of course. :smt041 :smt045 :smt020


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: MuffyBee on October 13, 2007, 11:32:40 PM
Gotta love Oldfart...love to read his posts....and I know deep thought  & feeling goes into them...can feel it myself....jmho, of course. :smt041 :smt045 :smt020

 :smt023 


Title: Re: Scared Monkeys Appreciation
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on October 14, 2007, 02:46:54 AM
Oldfart..  Awesome post.  See.. told yah I would read it before I went to bed.   :wink:
  It was a pleasure talking to you this evening. or .. morning I should say  .. lol
Hope my voice didnt give you nightmares..  LOL   :2doh: