Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum

I know I dont say much on this blog But I read here everyday and I pray for Beth and Dave and Natalee Daily.. There isnt a day that has gone by since May 2005 and havent thought about Natalee
I started reading Beth book yesterday and many thing i already new
But reading her words I got so f***ing pissed.. How could people
treat her so shitty This poor woman has lost her child,, Then I read on and I sat on the couch bawling and bawling.. I had to put her book down.. Im not sure If I am all sad for her or sad for myself
This June I took my dog to Vet she has a little growth on her lip we wanted it removed so she didnt scratch it.. It was removed and all went well.. My husband was mad I paid to have lab run on it.. He said it is just a growth.. Well didnt hear anything figured all is well
Well 2 weeks ago we notice she has a golf ball in her throat.. I called the vet and and said Hey you never did tell us what the report was on that growth removed from her lip.. I had to leave for work and the vet called back like 9 pm that night said they had to call the lab and have the report faxed over.. They said it was cancer
Cancer that had been stewing since June.. I took her to Vet on tuesday and the Vet said it was in lymph system That we coud remove lump BUt Hubby said wht was the point we would just remove lump after lump.. Well She is gone tonight Just from Tuesday the tumor had massed most of her neck  adn we put her down.. I cant imagine Beth Loss but I am so empty right now :sad:

Oh Sue! I'd be PO'd too! A vet is supposed to take care of your pets like your Dr. takes care of your family! I'm so sorry!

Sue - I'm so sorry and pissed too.  Why the hell didn't they do something about it way back in June?  Didn't the vet get the lab report?  Why bother sending samples for testing if you aren't going to read the results..pisses me off.

I do feel though that Natalee is taking really good care of your dog now, they are comforting eachother.

Sue,
I have dogs I love more than most people so I am so sorry this happened to you and your dog!  They become almost like children to us.  I am sure this kind of treatment wouldn't have happened, at least let's hope, with a human.  And just like with all the damage done with the dog food recalls, dog owners never seem to have any recourse.  We can't sue anybody for malpractice or the food company or anything except grieve for our pets we lose.

But it can be one of the most painful things a person has to experience. 

{{HUGS!}}  No matter how many I have had breeding them, the ones that are really mine hold a special place in my heart and in my mind always.

And dammit, it just hurts so bad to lose one!

Sue,

Knowing the pain of losing a pet, I can feel your frustration.  Wish I had something to offer that would make you feel better but I do not.  Losing a family member is sorrowful.  It will take time to accept and you can rant all you want.  (Gosh, I wish I had some golden words right now)

((((Hugs))))

As I sit here crying WHY are those people So fucked up down there. My loss
to me is just crushed. I cant imagine Beths I just cant

It's so hard to put a beloved pet down, even though it is the kindest, most loving choice sometimes. I hope you told that Vet exactly what you thought of his negligience!

I feel the same way about Beth. It helps me to see her most recent appearances. She's such an inspiration and I believe her when she says that her faith has pulled her through. She's not the same person now as she was before Natalee went missing. She's found her independance and is one of the few people that has discovered the incredible strength we humans have.

I do, however, have a REAL hard time reading the hate posts about her though. It makes me fighting mad!

honestly I dont know who I am crying for more Beth Or myself
Im very sad I lost my dogs but I am even more sad for natalee
and it is boiling up tonight

Sue, you're going to grieve for your dog and there isn't one thing wrong or silly in that! I love my dogs, and they are family. I really hope you let that Vet have it!

CBB those People are CLUELESS they have never had such a tremdous loss in thier lives and falling apart over a dog I cant imagine my child
My daughter moved to Kuwait a Year ago and I have only slept about 6 hours a night since she left.. I guess maybe I am just a mess.. Im going there Nov 12th it will probably be the best i will sleep in a year

I was in there face Tuesday demanding to know what the hell happen
I left there bawling again ( they didnt have a answer) I have been taking my animals there for almost 20 years

Sue,

I agree with CBB...let the vet have it....we had a similar thing happen in our family and my MIL was jerked around by an arrogant vet that we no longer use....don't want to get into details, now, but it is very similar...

Be sad, be angry and all that comes with it...we'll be here to listen.

Life seems so unfair sometimes, Sue! To me, that's what makes Beth so incredible! I cannot imagine loosing a child. It's a perversion of nature! WE'RE supposed to go first, and Beth tried so very hard, and did everything so right, and even though I believe Natalee was already gone they snatched justice from her when she delivered the suspects to the authorities within hours of arrival on the Island! It's so unfair!

thanks you guys i appreciate you letting me vent
Im so sorry Beth had to be treated so badly in Aruba
It just makes me so sad for her also.. I know Beth is strong
But KNOW ONE should have to endure what Beth has had to

Sue, hon, sleep is where our minds work on things that we can't sort out during waking hours. If you haven't been sleeping, maybe you should see your Dr. for some help in that area. They make non-narcotic sleep aids now..........I believe Lunesta is non-narctoic and not habit forming. I'm glad you're going to see your daughter! I do hope she has internet! We'd miss you!

Believe it or not, the tears you have and the rant you're having is good for you. After it's over and the tears go away, you'll sleep a little better tonight, I bet. What a hard night, Sue! I think any of us would be in bad shape right now!

Well I have a HUGE heart But I am not as nice as most of you .. I want those bastards to suffer everything Natalee suffered.. I want there parents to suffer also.. Paul and Anita most of all.. Paul and Anita created the monster there son is

Sue,
I wish I could write something that would make you feel better but I just don't know any words of comfort for something so sad for you.

If it was in the lymph system already from the lip or lymphatic cancer, I don't think there is much treatment.  Here, they don't do chemo or radiation for dogs, not sure if they do other places but it could be nothing more could have been done for your dog anyway.

But at least you would have known and not been so shocked suddenly by losing her!  You would have been expecting it had the vet not screwed up the reporting so badly.  Thinking all is fine when it isn't is just cruel!

.

I have no problem with their suffering as well.  Maybe an eye for an eye kind of justice but any kind is better than no justice at all.

 :lol: :lol: You're nicer than most, Sue! I've had my moments, trust me! I got so upset on Amazon the other night that I was plotting how to require every employee I have to give me their passwords to Amazon so I could post more!  :lol:

Well im sticking to the Boycott
There is like 3 ways to get to Kuwait
 1. KLM airlines with 10 hour lay over in Amsterdamn
 2. Seattle to New York to Germany then to Kuwait
3.  Seattle to London The on to Kuwait

Well I didnt choose the first 2 there was NO way in Hell I was giving KLM one penny and I am not sitting IN Amsterdam for 10 hours I will swim to Kuwait first before I do that

I hope you do sleep well tonight if not normally.

Going to try myself.  I have a routine I have to do to unwind.  Shower, brush teeth, read, etc. before going to sleep, about ten things I have to do (check front door lock, check dogs, check this and that) before I can go to sleep but then I usually can pretty easily.

Thank you Anna and Good night

The way I have this figured, Sue is like this: Beth, Dave, friends and family were not there when Natalee got in trouble; they couldn't be. But I really do KNOW who was. God saw exactly what happened, and He knows exactly who did it. I also believe that He had Natalee with Him before she died and certainly was there to take her to be with Him. It doesn't for one second mean He willed it or anything, and it doesn't lessen the tragedy of it at all, but it does mean it isn't over.

I WOULD NOT BE IN THE PERPETRATORS SHOES (missing or not) FOR ANYTHING on the day, that will certainly come, when they stand before Him. Nope, given a choice, I'd choose my own shoes even if I had to stand in them and grieve. Natalee and Beth will be together again.

I agree!

Sue? If you're ok, I need to hit the shower and get to bed. I hope you get some sleep, and I know tomorrow isn't going to be a great day, but I sincerely hope it's a little better than today.  You ok?

Yes Thank you CBB and thanks for listening I appreciate it very much

I wasn't leaving til you posted, Sue. I WUB YOU! Get some sleep if you can, and I'll remember in my prayers, hon! {{HUGS}}

HUGS Sue  :smt052

thank you Klaas you are such strength for this group Of People
thank you

It's morning here Sue, and I read about your dog and I'm so sorry.  Yes, I would be screaming mad too and demanding some answers.  We love our fur babies and we do our best to care for and protect them.  You were a good mom to your dog, taking her in for vet care.  The lab or vet may have failed, but you never failed in your love and care for your dog.  My heart goes out to you in your sorrow and I hope the good times you shared with your dog and those memories will soften the pain over time of losing her.

Sue,  I am sorry you are going through this.  Everyone has a breaking point.  I definately would be pissed too.  Your vet owes you an explanation and a refund for their negligence.There is no excuse for that and If it were me, I'd seriously reconside using them for the rest of my pets.  I'd be the one that prolly told my family and friends to not go there either, but that is just me. 

  My dog has had a cancer that causes tumors on her back leg, she's had 2 surgeries in the past year and is still around and doing pretty well.  I got a call from the vet within 3 days of the first biopsy.    She's old (14) so I know she won't be here much longer. 

You are also right, Beth shouldn't be treated like she has been.  Its not right.  I strongly belive in Karma and those responsible, will be punished.  Its only a matter of time.  I keep saying my prayers that the truth will come out soon.

Beth and the family deserve answers,  as you do too.

Take care,
Hugs

MsVada

Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.

When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.

They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together…

--Author Unknown

Sue, I am so sorry for your loss.  I'm sure your dog had a wonderful life with you.

Sue - I am so sorry to hear of your loss. It is such a difficult decision to make and I hope you take comfort in knowing it was the right decision.

I would be raging mad at the vet too, and would probably follow up with a scathing letter to them - it may not do any good but at least you would get your say again.

My heart has broken again and again for Beth.  I cannot even fathom the loss of a child, and to compound that, the treatment she has gotten.  Like Msvada says, and I believe it too - Karma!!  What goes around comes around.

Again I am sorry for your loss (((Hugs))) 

Sue,I am sorry for your loss.

Peaches, thanks for sharing this.

Sue,

I'm so sorry to hear about your dogie. I have a 16 year old shih tzu that I know will soon be in heaven. He has been a wonderful friend, and I love him more than I can say. There have been times, the vets office has screwed up, and I have learned from their mistakes. It's ashame that we depend on the Vets office to be as caring as we are, and I'm sure most of the Vets do care, but their office help leaves  a lot to be desired.

I wish I could make the hurt go away.

Peaches, thank you for sharing that! That's new to me and I know it will mean a lot to Sue! When I read it, it brought to mind something I read in "Guideposts" magazine a long time ago that may be good for Sue to hear as well:

The magazine has recounted many "near death" experiences among their inspirational stories. This one was unusual because it happened to a child. They are all true stories. A little boy of 6 was playing outside one summer with neighborhood friends who were somewhat older. There were several trees in the yard where they were with low hanging branches and the boy was envious of the others because they could climb the trees. A boy of 9 finally gave him a "boost" to reach a branch and up the 6 year old went. He climbed higher than he thought he could and pushed himself to be like the "Big kids". When it was time to go home, he found it much more difficult to come down than to climb up, and his foot slipped. His head hit two large branches in the fall and he was unconscience when he landed.

Emergency Surgery to alleviate the pressure from his brain swelling was required at the hospital and the boy was given only a 20% chance for survival. During the sugery, there was a point that his vital signs failed and afterward, the surgeon told his parents that he had almost not survived the surgery. The next 6-8 hours would determine his fate.

The 6 year old did wake up. When he opened his eyes, and began to speak, it was with full control of speech and movement and memory. The first words he spoke were, "Mom! I' got to play with Brownie!" Brownie was the family's beloved Cocker Spaniel that had passed away a year and a half before the accident, and had been a constant companion to the boy while he lived.

After the initial tears of joy and exhuberance, his Mother finally responded to her son's insistance that he had been playing with the dog, by telling him he had been dreaming. What he excitedly relayed to her, and later repeated to the Surgeon,caused her to change her mind.

The child said that he was laying on a table with people around him. They had their mouths covered. Suddenly, he saw them from above them like he had flown to the ceiling, and heard them talking. A man said "he's coding" and the boy said that they did something with their hands on his chest because he saw himself jump. Then he doesn't know what happened because he heard Brownie bark, and as he turned in the direction of the sound, he was in a place that had different colors than he'd ever seen. It was a bright rainbow-like field that sparkled and there was a beautiful sun lit path on a hill beyond it. That's where he saw Brownie, racing down the path toward him. They fell into each other like they'd never been apart, Brownie licking his face and ears while the boy squealed with delight.

Although the child "heard" no one speak, he said he knew he couldn't stay with Brownie. He also knew that he would be back, and that when he did, Brownie and he could run up the path together. Brownie was happy and would wait for him.

The surgeon confirmed the scene in the operating room, and the boy and his family believe that God's understanding and gifts to us are given from the only One that really knows our hearts. Scripture says:

Jhn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 

I believe that the place prepared for us is uniquely fashioned by Love just for us individually. I can't imagine that my place would not include what has so dearly enriched my life here. Just as God knew what would immediately give the 6 year old boy his heart's delight and bring security and peace to him, I believe He seeks that for us all. Sue, I think that you and I are going to have a joyous reunion one day and it will include lots of tail wagging!  :wink:

cbb,

This a beautiful story, and thank you so much for sharing it with us. I hope I see all my wonderful animals, that I have loved, when I get to that special place. I can't help but cry.

Thank you everyone for your warm thoughts and heart felt messages
It really means alot to me.. My house seems so empty today
NO big dog getting under my feets trying to sniff my butt and constantly licking me ( sheesh)

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/BigMouse1925/Picture1221.jpg)

Meg was talking Here.. She just loved to talk

Sue...I am so sorry for your loss....I know the feeling of emptiness and loneliness as I lost one my my 'babies' just 2 short months ago to lymphoma.....and like your Meg he was gone all to quickly...and I miss him terribly.  Hugs to you....and there is no need to feel bad that you are grieving over your beloved pet......losing a pet we love, is losing a loved one....human or animal we LOVE THEM...and miss them and grieve for them.

Ohhh.  What a face!  :lol:  You can see the love radiating from her eyes and her face. 

Dear Sue,

I'm so sorry for your loss and all the problems that went with it.

It's interesting that your daughter lives in Kuwait.

I would say despite ranting, you still have a sense of humor as evidenced by your last post. I laughed about swimming to Kuwait. (NOT.) I think your best bet is option number three - Seattle to London to Kuwait.

I hope you have a lovely visit with your daughter. Maybe down the line you can get a puppy. A puppy will take up all your time for a while and it will definitely ease your sorrow.

With love,
Louise

PS: I got a prescription for Lunesta as I have trouble quieting my mind down to a state where I can sleep. I got a good sleep with Lunesta but had a bad hangover the next morning and my throat felt swollen and very dry. But I'm sure the pill works differently for different people and I would suggest you give it a try to see how it affects you.

PPS: Again, condolences on the passing of your doggie.

thank you for your comments louise they are appreciated
I still have 2 doggies, We are never totally without pets
I rescue everything from Dogs to cats to even a turtle

Here is my rescue bassetts and Scared Monkey Doggies

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/BigMouse1925/Picture006-1.jpg)

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/BigMouse1925/Picture2025-1.jpg)

Dear Sue,

I'm sure glad to hear that you have two other doggies to keep you busy.

I wish you all the very best luck in the world with your two doggies.

Love, Louise

Sue, the basset on the right looks alot like my boy, Huck!  I've been to the big Basset Bash held in Oct in Atlanta by BHRG a couple times.  It's a hoot!  A couple hundred Bassets and their people.  Games, food and DOGS! 

I scored some great Basset crap at their raffles.  Basset hound Christmas ornaments.  Gotta love 'em.

Bless you for being involved in rescue.  I have five rescued cats and four rescued dogs, 3 of whom are Bassets.  If I had a million dollars, I swear I would have a big ole farm or something and just be a retirement home for rescued Bassets. 

OH SUE! Your babies are adorable! Love the fashion wear!  :wink:

You've been in my thoughts and prayers, and I was just checking in to see how you're doing. I'm so glad you posted the pictures!

Sue,
I was in here reading... I am so sorry for the loss of your "furry child".... I hope you continue to give the vet whatfor, I would
 

just stopping  in to say  I am sorry ...

confession - I didn't read this entire thread... I will read it a little at a time.... I came in here to join the rant and found I just didn't have anything worthy to rant about... and the pictures of the children with their SM clothing cheered me right up!!! 

OK, I went and read the entire thread... now I am all teary eyed, Sue, she was beautiful and you will be reunited.

I am not good at expressing myself always, but I do know how bad it hurts when we lose a furry child....