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Another star by the Lions Den?
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lol

Can we hold off the post of the day stuff for the post that will say, paulus van der sloot arrested for the murder of natalee Holloway?

Isn't there a pathway of stars here?

http://www.humsurfer.com/news-holloway-joran-in-aruba-case-on-peter-r-de-vries-live-stream

News: Holloway, Joran in Aruba case on Peter R de Vries Live Stream
posted by  stv (5)  13 hours ago (www.streamtvnow.tv)

The United states and Europe have been anxiously awaiting this case to be solved. Out of the blue Peter R de Vries came with a shocking announcement that he had solved the case. American networks stand in line to cover this news event. While ABC has postponed their broadcast of these facts untill monday evening. www.streamtvnow.tv believes that these events definatly has a news value and will stream this show as it airs in the netherlands. English commentary will be done in the irc channel on efnet. #streamtv www.streamtvnow.tv for news, sports & entertainment The first site to turn streaming into a global streaming community for 6 years in a row.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3199696/__Premier_Aruba_boos_op_Joran___.html?p=3,1

HILVERSUM - premier Oduber of Aruba is angry on Joran of of the ditch.
That said he news to Sunday in the RTL. According to the premier the
Dutch boy has dealt the holiday island much damage. Oduber are the
repeated leugens of of of the ditch entirely tired. As a result, the
island comes negatively in the news.

70 per cent of entering the island are originating from American
tourists. Shortly after the disappearance of Holloway American
tourists stayed away massively of the island.  "he plays with the
economy of the country", said the premier.

He wants nothing say concerning a top consultation which he had with
the Public Prosecution Service. Just like a everyone, also he waits
the retransmission of peter R. freezes off of Sunday evening.

That would be the greatest post of them all.

hey guys....long time no see....but i have been trying to keep up....phew....
klaas....is this true....we can watch it in english today as it happens????

Now that would definitely be a sight to behold, wouldn't it? The only thing that would be better would be one that would say ,
paulus van der sloot convicted of the murder of Natalee Holloway...

WHy would Oduber be angry at Joran for admitting his guilt in Natalee's dissapearance..You would think he would be happy if the case was finally solved :scratch: :wink:

Running out to buy enough tissues for looking at Beth's face.

 :smt022 :smt022 :smt022 :smt022 :smt022 :smt022 :smt022 :smt022 :smt022 :smt022

God bless you, Beth.

ooopsie... messed that up... try again... hey cuz!!!been missing you!!

Not sure about the English part.  I'm hoping for some English subtitles though.

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Oduber will be the gifter of the horse head in the bed if Joran keeps talking.  Have no fear Hannie is there shouting FU, FU, FU.

hey cubbee....i have been seeing your cute little monkey ::MonkeyDance::...just have not had much time to post....reading and keeping up on what all is going on is about to wear me out!!! ::MonkeyEek:: good to see you too!

Philips must be running this operation; they have never made anything simple including the pop-up toaster.

I would be happy to see you lose to that one.

LMAO...... ::MonkeyDance::

Love it!  thanks Nut!!

FYI - someone at RU is saying you have to PAY to watch it here.  Also, if you click on the streamingTV link you have to register. 

Also, someone at RU said it would be on YouTube fairly quickly.  

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::    Hi Cuz!!!

Indeed, *******.  Why isn't Oduber happy?

 ::MonkeyCool::

I guess I don't know how to use discussion boards, because I went to their Main Forum and there is no forum called Live Streams.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

As I said before it will go well with the horse's ass that is already in there.

Warning:  Horses, sleep with one eye open tonight!

I love it.... the whole world is waiting and watching .... just for you joran... bet you wish you'd kept your big mouth shut now, huh?
Even if you face no legal ramifications , the whole world will know exactly what you have done... by your own words...

Great post by Deetch:

http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/

Exactly, *******, he is angry that JVDS opened his mouth, not that he commited a crime.

Maybe because I just registered but didn't pay for anything, I can't see the Live Streams.  That's probably it.  I'll watch here.

hey sunny  :smt039.....kind of strange feelings today.....excited...and not even about the supper bowl.....i am just tied up in knots!

As usual , well done..
Thanks for posting that klaas, I lost all my favorites when my puter went bye bye and am slowly getting them back...

me too cuz,,,, actually forgot about the super bowl and snacks, told son and hubby if they wanted them they better go get them...

Hi monks! I'm just checking in.

Hey, I had a scary thought. Do you think they may take any videos down quickly because ABC purchased the rights?

I can only imagine the range of feeling in you right now...hang in....we have you wrapped in our arms....we will all walk this road together today.

aaww I bet you are tied in knots!  #3 is here with me.  Call us if you need us to come and hold your hand!  We'll be right there! 

my husband is just lucky there is any food around to snack on....lol ::MonkeyLaugh::
supper bowl ::MonkeyConfused::.....wow..i really am out of it today. SUPER BOWL!!!

That's right sistah,,,, we are here for you...

Deb when is thsi suppose to air?

My sweetie has offered to go get pizza for us if I promise not to kill the computer today.....he did move it away from the window ::MonkeyCool::

Oduber: We are VERYangry with Joran Van Der Sloot! After all we have done for him -- covering up he and his father's murder, spending millions of florins on advertising, hush money, and rock painting. After 2.5 years, we even clear his name -- how does he pay us back? -- he blabs the truth to the WHOLE WORLD!
Monday mornig we will officially cancel our plans to erect his Satue on the capital grounds.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ah that was so sweet Sunny and so true!  Cuz - we got your back.  Hugs to you and the rest of your family.  Hang in there.  This is the end.  Joran is going DOWN and he's going to drag PAULUS DEAREST WITH HIM.  amen.

It should be close to 8 pm nowin Holland. When does the DeVries program start?

lucky you.... mine want me to make gumbo... not today guys...

Hi memphis...I HOPE not!!

Poll over at RU:

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It's either in 30 minutes or 60 minutes, depending upon who you ask  ::MonkeyWink::

You have to register, which I did.  Then you have to choose a "subscription', lowest being $5 for 14 days.  Surprising they would/could do this with all the major stations paying HUGE bucks to air it.

We're here for you and the rest of the family, cuz.

Thanks, Klaas. if anyone gets a working streaming video, let us know.

sunny...yes...i need to be here and some other blogs today to keep my spirits up ::MonkeyWink::.....casa... i will call if i have a sinking spell!!!
and it's not that i am worried that something will go wrong....i am satisfied that beth has her closure on the events of that night....i am still  somethwhat hopeful that there will be justice, that the people involved will have to pay for their part in this crime...but i still can't help but realize that may not happen! ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::

no cooking today....but I will KILL for some GOOD TEX-MEX....none in 8 months.....good BBQ but no good Tex-Mex!! ::MonkeyWaa::

ooooh  oohhhhh   i am just in time.
u monkeys rock!

Excellent point.

Klaas, San, *******....is it possible that either of you do some kind of count down?????

SPOCK - see above

The show airs in exactly 1 hour..I am trying to locate another streaming server so we dont have to pay.

Dana:It will be on Abc tommorow night at 8:30 EST

IMO because eventually it will become known that ALE and government knew about joran and his guilt from the beginning, and their part in the cover-up will be surmised and likely proven. Oduber is only mad that joran talked....and got caught.

Maybe San, CBB or ******* can...I'm too busy  ::MonkeyWink::

Here, take my hand...we all stand with the girl.

I am guessing Joran is going to said his "friend" used a lot of KY that night and got Joran to "squeeeeeel".........

::MonkeyHaHa::

57 minutes until kickoff..I mean until Joran gets his head kicked in  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Here's my hand, Lala's.  I stand with the girl, too.  We all stand together.

lol

Cuz, I am so sorry that they may never pay the price for this, but know that there will be a price to pay at the end of their life's journey and it will be a much dearer price than they could ever pay here on earth.
I am glad that Beth has her closure and can now begin the grieving process... I say the grieving process cause in my heart I truly feel that there can be no healing for a mother who has had a child taken away from them in this manner....not total healing anyway, until Natalee meets her at the gates of heaven in all her glory...

Another hour?  I thought it started at 12:30 Pacific time; it must be 1:30 then.  Geez, I have to go to sister's house for super bowl party at 2 PM.  I may have to login from  her house.

thx for the acknowledgement sunny.  ::MonkeyWink::
I just wasn't sure if anyone had thought of that. Big money is involved.

OK, back to my seat now.

I feel the same way...but also know there will be justice for natalee...if not in this world...certainly in the next....joran and anyone else involved is going to burn in HELL....but I still am selfish enough to want to see them tried and convicted...for Natalee , for all of the family and for me too....I told you I was selfish

beaner, cj...lala.....i am holding on tight!!! :smt056 JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!! ::MonkeyDance::

abc eh
20 20 ?

hi fom...good to see you!!!

please tell me how I can see the report this afternoon, instead of waiting until Mon.nite- Will anyone translate? east coast time- If anyone knows how I can get this, please respond- thanks- EEP

just a thought....something may be on www.arubadag.com

I can't get audio here....

Dana, yes.  2/020 is doing a 1 and a half hour special that begins at 9:30 PM Pacific time (I think--the time zones are cryptic puzzles to me).

Yes they purchased the rights from De Vries to broadcast here in the states.

Get ready Klaas!  I saw your post in the other thread......LOL.

I don't expect anything today, just wanted to pass it on.  Today and tomorrow, you'll be busier than Santa at Christmas.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Somebody move over and make a spot for me to take someones hand.... I stand with the girl too...

Cuz,

We all want him behind bars but regardless of what happens - trust me HE and the others WILL PAY. Did you see the Sporter being taken away in a wheelchair to a safe house today?  Imagine that for the rest of your life.  Yes, he will pay. 

And Aruba - you will continue to pay until you stand on the side of justice.  Innocent Arubans need to let their voices be heard.  Enough of the Sloots.  Enough of the corruption.  End it NOW.

Hi EEP.  We're working on it.  Our wonderful Klaas is at this moment chasing down free streaming servers and places where we can see the broadcast.  Just stay tuned and keep reading here.

thanks *******.....I hope you can...if not we can at least get something here....

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

The headline says it all. Check back here tomorrow for Live summary/translation of the Peter R. De Vries documentary on the death of Natalee Holloway.

Finally ... the "powers that be" in Aruba are not distancing Joran from accountability.

However ... when Paulus ... the sons of the elite ... those were were involved in and/or aware of the coverup and ... certain members of the judiciary are held accountable ... I will concede that Aruba is not just playing a game of chess ... a game of chess where the family of Natalee Holloway are the pawns ... pawns that are being afforded appeasement to just fade away.

Janet

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Amigoe
September 30, 2005

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1694

Many Aruban people are very angry with Twitty and are afraid that her constant appeals against Aruba would have a negative effect on the tourism. Even though this does not reflect in the figures, the government does keep a finger on the pulse. Croes does not consider taking measures against Twitty yet, but does not rule out the possibility to shut her up in the future. The Dutch government was asked to diplomatically support Aruba in this matter.


Jossy Mansur
Dana Pletzer Show
October 5, 2007

Jossy: People thought Beth caused bad publicity for the island, but people is not at fault, it's the 3 suspects. If there's damage to the island it should be on the shoulders of the 3 suspects.

u 2 sunny--lots of moneys here today.  (  FOM waves)
New and old....one goal....find Nat...persistence pays ---  karma always comes around

Absolutely!!  As Frank says....Today we are giants.

Our voices matter.  I'm proud to be a monkey.

God Bless the Family, Friends, and loved ones of Natalee Holloway.

Justice is coming.

plus...there will be a small part on GMA monday morning!!!!

thanks Klaas....              anyone?????

Oh GOOD! *******, if no one's told you lately they love you, I DO!!!!

I'm trying to get my kid's Super Bowl stuff ready and everything done so I can be right here when the program starts! GOD BLESS YOU, and GOD HELP KLAAS!!!  ::MonkeyWink::

FINISHED! updated 02 - 03 - 2008 / 4:00 p.m. (G.M.T.)

- MATCH OF THE YEAR –

It’s Sunday afternoon, almost half past one. Normally I would have attended the match of the year: The Amsterdam soccer team Ajax against the Rotterdam team Feyenoord.

I usually never miss it, but for the TV moment of the year I made an exception.

Wow, it’s almost done now. We have finished the studio recordings, in which I present the up coming show. During the recording I began to feel the price of the hard work, I made some slips, so it took longer than normal to record. My colleague Kees van der Spek rushed to the studio to finish the montage. I joked: After that we’ll bring this tape to the SBS studios, under full police surveillance. Imagine what would happen if this tape disappeared!

- ONE BIG JET FLAME -

Beth Twitty, who was my guest the last couple of days, has already left for the United States again. She will be appearing in a well known talk show tomorrow and could not stay any longer. I had a memorable time with her. On the Internet I’ve read some strange stories about Beth, but these don’t fit with my experiences.

I’m glad we’re ready to go. We needed every second the past three days, from Thursday, the moment it became known that we had a scoop, until now, but it feels like a long time to wait for this news. I realize this and understand the criticism and annoyance of some of our audience.

I have already written that the speed our story becoming world news surprised me. It wasn’t a slow burn but a jet flame and then yes, three days becomes a boring wait. But it could not have gone any other way. The story simply was not finished yet.

It takes a lot of work to make a two hour documentary, even when you have the material in your pocket. Normally you need one hour for every one minute of edited material, so a report of 90 minutes costs 90 hours.  That amounts to two full working weeks that Kees van der Spek and top editor Rick Lankreijer did in just a few days.

- COMING TO THE UNITED STATES -

In the editorial room we can now slow down a little bit. When it’s finished, the tension is less. The only one still busy making phone calls is our ‘press officer’ Peter Schouten. With his P.A. Kelly he reflects about the American networks which want to have me appear on their shows. We’ll be visiting the United States from Tuesday to Saturday with a large crew, to make a grand tour of TV shows and current affair programs.

Currently we are in negotiations with Oprah, Larry King (CNN), Good Morning America (ABC), Greta Van Susteren (Fox tv) The Today Show (ABC), The Early Show (CBS), America Most Wanted ( Fox Network), Court TV en de Nancy Grace Show. Some shows disappear and some new shows appear. Because they all have their own personal demands and preference for practical or personal reasons we can’t always accommodate them.

We have to be selective. After all, we can only be in one place at a time. We’ll also go to where Beth Twitty lives, Montgomery, Alabama. There are some interviews on the slate there as well.

All right, I will not reflect too much on the things to come, first and foremost, the coming show. I’ll watch it tonight with my family and friends who are as curious to see it as everyone else. And no…I haven’t told or shown them anything yet. 
http://www.peterrdevries.com/news-finished.htm

Countdown:  45 minutes to showtime

Yes, Justice is coming, and this time she has an attitude!

I stand with the girl.

I stand with ya'll!

I hadn't thought of it....hopefully someone can capture it in case that happens....I am always amazed at what some people here can do....I am lucky to just find my way around from one site to another.....stay around memphis..we are all going to hold hands...for Natalee, her family and all who love her....

cuz you just let us know if you need ANYTHING!  I am monitoring stuff on the computer and #3 is laid out on the love seat watching tv! We are praying that this will bring closure to you and everyone else in your family!  Also praying that those responsible will pay a heavy price!

I want to call for a prayer now for Natalee and her family.  One big, giant Monkey prayer to let Natalee know we are here for her and her loved ones. 
Ready,
Set,
PRAY!!!

TY CBB!! I love you too!! I am searching the servers on the net for a live streaming feed..So I can't do a countdown at the moment.

EEP...I will answer cause I know the mods are busy.....they are trying to find a site where we can listen and I am sure several people will be translating as quickly as they are able.

A comment on Gretawire (lot's of case discussion going on).  Anyways, looks like Beth wasn't alone in NL.  Wonder who this is?  I hope she is talking about this latest trip and good to know she wasn't alone...

Comment by Priscilla just being me :-)
February 3rd, 2008 at 2:44 pm
tazebell, you ask me about my connection to Beth…………I have a good friend “Libby” that lost her husband and sons in a boating accident, I have lost a child, we try to go places to help with searches or just minister to parents because we can relate to their needs.

We went to Aruba, worked through TES and formed a wonderful relationship with Dave his sister Linda and Beth………..we have kept in touch as often as we can……….with me having four adopted children I am not able to travel as often, but Libby has been able to travel with Beth, she went with Beth to Amsterdam…………hope this helped. Don’t want to get fussed at for sharing to much personal info………. 

Priss

wow...*******...thanks for bringing that here....i can already tell...i am going to be an emotional mess today....if just that brings tears to my eyes...i can't imagaine how its going to be when i see the whole thing....i am just so grateful to peter devries....so much compassion i see...and from a journalist from all people???? ::MonkeyEek::

 Amen Beans!!!

From: http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/
Sunday, 3 February 2008
Natalee Holloway Update 17; Going Live in 30 minutes with Peter R. De Vries!!!!! Spoilers for ABC's Monday Special!!!!
 
In 45 Minutes I'm going live again. But here's a quick roundup of the day's Holloway related events. Dutch Tabloid De Telegraaf Reported this morning that They've tracked down the guy responsible for tricking Joran into his confession on tape for Peter R. De Vries.

Joran van der Sloot is apparently in Hiding somewhere, leaving his grandmother's house in a hurry this morning. Joran's lawyer Told the media that he didn't think last night's call to Pauw en Witteman was 'not a smart move'.

Joran's parents have released a statement, declaring that their son is not in hiding and is not being arrested for anything. The Aruban Justice department is waiting for approval to arrest him, sources in the department told de Telegraaf.

Posted by Olivier de Vries at 19:37 0 comments Links to this post   

Hi Snoop!  as you say WE ALL STAND WITH THE GIRL!.....I can see a chain of people hand in hand, stretching across this great land.....for Natalee! 

Yep and karma can be a  _itch!

"Only big people lie."   ::MonkeyEek::

Chimes! Great to see you!!

Very late last night we had new poster Ciskebab who speaks Dutch join us.  I asked him/her to return today and translate for us and he said he might.

Hope so.

OK I am ready

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 ::MonkeyDance::

Not that it matters -- but did Beth move to Mongomery -- or did DeVries simply misspeak?

have not had time to read that far back...did he have anything new or important to add???

thanks *******....my anxiety/anticipation level jsut rose about a gazillion %.....can we all email him and tell him to boyott greta!! ::MonkeyWink::

Oh so good to see you!  I have thought of you and that kitty cat often these past months.

For some reason, it is not taking my registration ::MonkeyWaa::

Just an article in Dutch with the name of the person to whom Joran confessed on the tape as a Patrick van der Eem.

I would think he misspoke, Wreck.  Montgomery is the capitol and Birmingham the largest city which confuses folks.  AFAIK, she still lives in the B'ham area.

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Do you have the link for that please? I can't even get there for some reason

can't pray and type at the same time... ::MonkeyWink::

Oduber remains ignorant. He should be thanking DeVries.

Here's my hand.

Dang Anna...where have you been!!!!  thanks for asking Ciskebab back.....hope he comes on shortly!!

Thanks for the update AZ!!!

klaas....that would make a good sm t-shirt.....all the monkey's holding hands....might have to wrap around the whole shirt to fit....but it would be cute!!!

Thanks Klaas!  ^5

Do we know how boat guy is?

your account has to be activated. I don't know how long that takes.

Im thinking that the major networks and cable news networks probably still have reporters there and they will be reporting back to the US.

TY!  ::MonkeyWink::

Chimes!!!!!!!!!!  It's so good to see you.  It's good to see all the monkeys!!

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Peter works for a network. I would like him to do something worse to Greta than to just give her the cold shoulder. But this is about money and ratings also. Even though it is Peter DeVries, it will go to the higher bidder.
Oduber sounds like he has had enough, wait until 20 to 25 million people view the programs tomorrow on 20 /20. Flush. There goes the American tourist money and the fleecing of tourists. I can't think of a thing he could say or do to repair the damge and destruction, all because of their own actions. 
Been a real study in human nature hasn't it ? Guess that is what has kept up my interest in this.   

good thing our fearless leader has fast fingers!!!!! thanks in advance klaas!!!

>  ...who boat guy is?

Rumors it's Steve Croes but I think we'll have to wait and see.

Dear Heavenly Father

May Natalee's family bow and reach up in this time of trial.  I pray that they will realize the peace that only You can afford ... the peace that passes all understanding.

In the Name of your Precious Son ... The Lord Jesus Christ.

Amen

Cuz~Sending you lots of {{{HUGS}}}
I'm standing with the girl!!
Here's my hand to stand with all the Monkeys!!    ::MonkeyWink::

IT'S GAMETIME!!  Time to show the world Aruba's true colors. I hope you go down in FLAMES Joran, Paulus, Anita and the rest of the scum behind all this BS and all the pain/misery they've put Beth, Dave, Jug, Matt and all of Natalee's family and friends thru' these last 2.9 years. Time for Natalee's voice to be heard, no more silencing her. We Love You Natalee!!  ::MonkeyWink::

Roos~

IT'S PAYBACK TIME FOR ALL THE MISERY ARUBA'S LEADERS HAVE CAUSED!!!

Amen, Tamikos

Shango is saying that they never went on a boat....

see shango post

Also here is a bit of inding about Shango

I believe Shango stands for Hansgo

and it does exists

18 minutes until showtime!!!!!!!!

Oh man!
You have to know that joran is sitting in a corner right now crying his sorry eyes out with a rag stuffed in his mouth!
Hope you are happy now joran......you are now world known and that aint a good thing! :smt098

Of course I am sticking around, and I also stand with the girl and with all the monkeys.

FYI - this site will be blogging the show live too in English

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

Hello all!! So how do I get it on? Just watch here?

oduber does not care about natalee or natalee's family. he doesn't care about justice for natalee or anyone else for that matter. he just wants silence in this case so briesen's tourist lies are the only thing heard by the world.
dennisintn

did that come out right? lol

THANK YOU!!!!!  "O"

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i am not seeing a list of channels with descriptons  ::MonkeyNoNo::

you are the best!! Thanks!

A two hour show:

Introduction 30 min, recreation video 30 min, theories 30 min, undercover results 30 min.

I'm reaching out my hand to hold all of yours and join you in prayer that this program be an ordained step in God's plan. Natalee was not alone when she died, He was with her and He saw what happened and He knows who was responsible. My prayer is that God not allow truth to be buried in darkness, and that Natalee's family be comforted with knowledge about the circumstances of their daughter's death. They have been through so much, and they have turned to Him for help. He is faithful, and our prayers have been heard. I'm glad we are all here together in faithful anticipation that we are witnessing God's plan unfold.

I cannot approach His presence without also hoping that those who are responsible will find themselves in circumstances that will cause them to look up for help, for it is God's Will that none be lost. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen.

It would great if they had a cut away live feed to Paulus and Anita's living room!! ::MonkeyWink::

Noly, you need to pay them.  It's a subscription site.  Just read and watch here.  We'll have news soon.

LOL...thanks Klaas!!! ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks Spock

CONFIRMATION that the powers to be in ARUBA are  PURE EVIL

they have been

they still are

and probably always will be

roflmao

So noted.

I'm here standing with the girl too!  I'm so glad to be here with all of you!  ::MonkeyDance:: 

AMEN

ps.  I'm getting nervous here.  Are you?

Amen!

you are about to be brought back into reality

AMEN, CBB!

Hi Tyler.  I feel our prayers are being answered today.  It's been 2 1/2 long years, but the truth is finally coming out in a way that the whole world is taking notice.  That's what we've all been praying.

Eloquent words CBB - Amen and amen

It looks like we will have to wait 1 1/2 hours before the "good stuff" airs.

Amen

PAULIS IS A KILLER

ANITA KNOWS the TRUTH

JORAN IS A KILLER

FREDDIE KNOWS THE TRUTH

STEVE CROES IS MORON and an ACCOMPLICE

KG is a A KILLER

the people in ARUBA GOVERNMENT are AS BAD AS the above mentioned KILLERS

YES!!! What's everyone doing? I'm thinking I'll just stay here and wait for news..........

Klaas? what can I do to help?

Hi Texasmom...our chain  is growing so fast.....take our hands!!

5 minutes to go people im am almost sitting in my tv right now

Hello all!!!    I've been around.  'Still trying to get used to the new format.  Klaas, you've outdone yourself again.  :)   Monkey prayers all the way!  Strength and much love to the Holloways!  . . . .

It is outstanding in how much we've believed and endured witn Natalee all this time and it's coming down to the lies!   

I really, really hope that this is it.  If from what I've read is correct per Beth, then I can start to be at peace with the confession.

Having to run an errand, but hope to be back later, Monks!   Hugs, Chimes!

wreck IMO it's all good stuff today!!! ::MonkeyDance::

Sunday, 3 February 2008
Natalee Holloway Update 18; Still Going Live in 20 minutes with Peter R. De Vries!!!!! Joran Confesses all!!!

Keep checking this space, it's about to get interesting!

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

im not nervous

robots dont get nervous - thats the good thing about being a robots  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Amen!  Thanks for leading the prayer CBB.  I see all of us, hands joined , in this prayer.
i looked at the site meter, and  want to say to all from the Netherlands, Aruba, Malaysia, Canada and all  the  other countries watching, join hands and pray with us.

I am holding your hand in prayer. 

 :thumright: :smt038
THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!

Sooooo glad to see you back Ciskebab.  Any help with what is being said is appreciated.  Know it is impossible to catch it all, just the high spots will do!

.

Thanks so much.  We appreciate all you are doing to help. 

Amen.

Hi Monkeys, I've been a lurker for a long time.   ::MonkeyCool::  Just wanted you to know I'm standing with "the girl" and the Monkeys.  You are all so awesome!  I can hardly wait to see how all of the theories and facts are finally pieced together.

IM  going to my TV its starting

Welcome Kippy!

Your presence here today is greatly appreciated ciskebab.... ::MonkeyDance::

I went to the streamtvnow site, paid them my five dollars, got my username and password, and can't figure out for the life of me what to do next. If anyone is seeing the show on there, would you please tell me how to access it?

TY

Hi Monkeys!

Lalas......can I hold your hand?!

So good to see you  here, Ciskebab.  You are as good as your promise that you would be back in 11 hours.

Hi kippy...welcome!!!

Hi kippy... it has definitely been a long time coming!

Most Online Ever: 274 (Today at 03:31:54 PM)

BT, it said to go to the Main forum and then to the LiveStream forum.  You should see each stream in a separate thread.

no matter what....thanks for all the prayers in the last couple of pages.....it helps!!! show time!

Welcome to the cage...

Thank you, Dayhiker. I am sooo praying for a resolution to Natalee's case.

BT... it turned down my card, which I KNOW is good...

he told details about 10 times en not in one 20 minute converstaion but in multiple conversations in a period of weeks and evertime he told a bit more.
the rest comes in the commercial break

If I were a betting woman, I would bet that JVDStoolscum voiced his concerns of trustworthiness of the businessman & PVDStoolscum encouraged the relationship cuz with PVDStoolscum IT'S ALL ABOUT  THE  $$$$$$$$  &  PERVERSION.

BT, the English commentary is in the irc channel #livestream

Yes, indeed...here.

What station is it on? ::MonkeyNoNo::

And I will hold yours, my survivor friend.

Welcome kippy!  We are all here - standing together for Natalee.

Monkeys ROCK!!!!

Ya know we love ya cuz!

When you go to the StreamTVnow website, you need to register.  It's free.  It's set up like a discussion board.  Here's the FAQ directions to view a livestream:
Q: Where are the streams? How do I watch a stream?
A: The stream list is located in the main forum in its own forum called LIVE STREAMS. Inside here you will find a list of the channels with descriptions. In order to watch the stream, click on the Channel you want to view, then click on the ONLY post inside the thread. Inside the post you will find 2 - 3 login boxes at the bottom. Each of these boxes represents a different relay server. Input your username and password (same as your STV website credentials) then click the WATCH! button. If all is well, then the stream starts. If not, search this FAQ for possible issues.

exactly

what i hoped to hear

Welcome OEJ!!!

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We've got each other and

WE'RE STANDING WITH THE GIRL

Yes - welcome... There are without a doubt alot of prayers going up right now...

Sunday, 3 February 2008
Natalee Holloway Update 19; Peter R. De Vries Staring Now!! Joran's Confession Live!!!
 
Joran's Confession of leaving Natalie on the beach and dumped her body in the ocean. Patrick van der Eem, Peter R. De Vries' operative has more than ten separate confessions, he never rescinded anything. Peter R. De Vries believes that he was not joking, and has been lying all along.

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

I'm joining in your prayers, too!

This discussion is moving so fast--it's just like summer '05!

Welcome to All New Monkeys!  ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyDance::

Joran's Confession of leaving Natalie on the beach and dumped her body in the ocean. Patrick van der Eem, Peter R. De Vries' operative has more than ten separate confessions, he never rescinded anything. Peter R. De Vries believes that he was not joking, and has been lying all along.

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/


Klaas

Get ready, one of the comments, on that site, links to SM.

They are talking about a live stream on the internet.  We have some watching that and another poster is watching it live in Holland, I think. We are all waiting.

Do you have subtitles in the link or not so i dont have to tell it after

joran is done

hoping it is so.  Ciskebab thank you for joining and helping translate. 

Not sure what you mean.  Maybe you could post and add anything missed and save the translation if it's accurate??

It is on SBS6 Canal Digitaal Satelliet in Holland..But I was unable to locate a free live stream on the internet.

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Ciskebab, most of us can't watch the stream.  Those who are watching the streaming video have it in Dutch.  The English commentary is on irc and I haven't been able to get to it.  Long story short--please translate for us.  Please! 
Thank you!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Please continue to watch for us...we want to hear from you.  There will be all kinds of info in a few minutes...we need you to translate for us. Thanks.

Thanks for the warm welcome, but honestly I've lurked for so long, you all just feel kinda like family ::MonkeyHaHa::

TEN confessions??? Yacky's going to have 10 lawsuits to file against Joran!

Oh WOW! If he was consistant in the story 10 times, that's going to keep Tacky on the ropes a LONG time!

No, we don't even have a live stream.  We are taking comments from a blogger here

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

and I have open three sites to try to get translations.  Going to be hit and miss at best.  Any comments on what you hear as well are appreciated.

We don't expect anyone will be able to get it all word for word, just trying to patch together the important parts.

As I understand it, it opened with a statement from Peter deVries?

ciskebab just listen well and clue us in summary on the commercial breaks.
Can't thank u enuf but don't want u going nuts or missing anything cuz we are hounding u.

Klaasend: see my last post

Peter R. De Vries is upset about Joran van der Sloot's book. He claims that Joran is lying, has been lying all along. The introduction to his book Joran wrote that he won't find peace until the case is solved. De Vries sneers and is telling the viewers that he has been doubting Joran's statements since the beginning, and this is why he has set up the hiddencamera action.

Patrick van der Eem claims to have been his friend the last few years, played poker with him, and bought him marijuana (legal in Holland.) They showed a bit of the footage they caught, and then cut to commercial. Patrick van der Eem recieved abot 5000 euros per month for five months. Next one coming up.

http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

Ad a big thanks to Red and his lovely wife for making us monkeys all come together here for Natalee

THANK YOU!! Words can't express how grateful we all are at your kindness in taking the time to translate for us.  THANK YOU!!

CBB...thank you...our hands are linked....for Natalee

Ooooooooooh Yeah!
It's Karma round up time.I hope joran pisses his dirty pants.

Are you watching the English version?

Server is too busy - can't go back and look.  Will have to wait.

Exactly!   He won't be able to wriggle out of this... IF he thought this guy was just trying to get info out of him, why stay in touch with him?  Why continue contact?

Natalee Holloway Update 20; Peter R. De Vries Slams Joran's book!! Joran knows exactly what happened!!! Confession coming up live on tape!!!

Peter R. De Vries is upset about Joran van der Sloot's book. He claims that Joran is lying, has been lying all along. The introduction to his book Joran wrote that he won't find peace until the case is solved. De Vries sneers and is telling the viewers that he has been doubting Joran's statements since the beginning, and this is why he has set up the hiddencamera action.

Patrick van der Eem claims to have been his friend the last few years, played poker with him, and bought him marijuana (legal in Holland.) They showed a bit of the footage they caught, and then cut to commercial. Patrick van der Eem recieved abot 5000 euros per month for five months. Next one coming up.
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

one more link in case we go down

http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

This is the guy Joran told the confession to:

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This is the informer

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Q: Where are the streams? How do I watch a stream?
A: The stream list is located in the main forum in its own forum called LIVE STREAMS. Inside here you will find a list of the channels with descriptions. In order to watch the stream, click on the Channel you want to view, then click on the ONLY post inside the thread. Inside the post you will find 2 - 3 login boxes at the bottom. Each of these boxes represents a different relay server. Input your username and password (same as your STV website credentials) then click the WATCH! button. If all is well, then the stream starts. If not, search this FAQ for possible issues.

me too  ::MonkeyWaa::

I'll be listening for 2 words from urine --- "MY DAD". ::MonkeyCool::

Picture of Patrick

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Credit: Aristotle, BFN

Finally got in ! Holy crap.  Busy server!!  :)

CUZ.. thinking about you guys if you are still here.. LUV YAH and big hugs sent to you!!

Ciskebab.. TY for translations !!!!

I should be packing more.. but had to come online to see whats up and finally got caught up reading after several server burbs!!

MAY THIS BE THE DAY FOR JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ~!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

As we are "listening" to the beginning of this tragedy, there is a ship with men of pure hearts searching for what remains of Natalee. I pray that they know our eyes never stray from their direction and the hope they are providing. What an inspiration and contrast they are to the evil that gave cause for their efforts. Lord, let them find her. Guide them, whisper so they hear, and let them bring her home.

God Bless the crew of the Persistence!

 Ready for a cigar yet?   ::MonkeyTongue::

I swear this informer and JVDS sounds lke they had a THANG going on.. Brokeback mountain style if yah catch my drift.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I second that.  I watched their videos the other night and it is simply amazing what they are doing.  I pray they know something specific and that Beth can finally bring Natalee home.  There's no happy ending here.  But there can be a small bit of peace for Bath and Dave.

I got in, got to the right channel, put in my username and password, and then couldn't pull up the picture/sound. It keeps telling me something is corrupted. Pfffttt!!!!! I give up!

I think so to Ang... been thinking it for awhile now, ever since Joran's phone call when he was almost crying and when they said he gave him a gift...just saying..

TEll Joran was arrested, as was Paul. Paul was arrested on suspicion of helping dispose the body. First statement was the same (left Natalee on the beach). Police soon finds out it was a concocted story. At first this was believed to be a white lie....
Peter doubted this from the get go and says: if you know she's fine, why lie? Unless you know Natalee will never return...


http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

10 Times...

...with embellishment added during each incremental telling...

That's alot of corroboration.  And as many have said, explains why Persistence is where she is.

It's one thing to "lie", but it's quite another to provide overlapping corroborations with new details, during numerous subsequent re-tellings.

No wonder the goon through wine in his face.  De Vries has got him it seems, but whether legal chain of custody holds, and admissability threshold crossed, we shall see.

I hope so...

.

Natalee Holloway Update 21; Peter's reconstruction of events.

Joran met Natalee at the blackjack table. Joran and Deepak and Satish went to the casino/bar were Joran drank a jello-shot out of her belly button. She leaves with Joran, Satish and Deepak. Her friends ask her to get out of the car. She refuses and is never seen again.

When Joran, Deepak and Satish are arrested a week later, they were probably instructed by Joran's father, a judge in training. Their original story was that they dropped her off at the Holiday inn.

According to De Vries, this story is 'liars-logic' Why would you lie about this, unless you know that you can't be proven wrong? After this Joran claimed that Deepak picked him up at the beach, where he left Natalee, because she was unwilling to go. Deepak declared that this didn't happen.

Joran apparently left his shoes at the beach, according to him. Peter says this is a telling lie. His shoes were only a few feet from where he supposedly left. Unless something else happened to the shoes.
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Natalee Holloway Update 20; Peter R. De Vries Slams Joran's book!! Joran knows exactly what happened!!! Confession coming up live on tape!!!

Peter R. De Vries is upset about Joran van der Sloot's book. He claims that Joran is lying, has been lying all along. The introduction to his book Joran wrote that he won't find peace until the case is solved. De Vries sneers and is telling the viewers that he has been doubting Joran's statements since the beginning, and this is why he has set up the hiddencamera action.

Patrick van der Eem claims to have been his friend the last few years, played poker with him, and bought him marijuana (legal in Holland.) They showed a bit of the footage they caught, and then cut to commercial. Patrick van der Eem recieved abot 5000 euros per month for five months. Next one coming up.
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

LOL  ~!! Hey sweety !!  Hope THIS is finally it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

he hee he -- I always thought Joran being gay was far-fetched -- now I'm 100% sure he at least swings both ways!!!

The guys change their story and say they left J&NAt at the beach. Joran says they walked the beachline and "fondled"... Joran put his shoes on the beach... after a while Joran wants to leave, Natalee doesnt. Joran says he leaves natalee, and deepak picks him up...

Deepak says he never picked Joran up. Chat & SMS messages confirm Joran is lying (HEy Swa, IM home -> why send that, if he just dropped you off)... Joran checks msn, and downloads 2 porn movies...
What happened to his shoes? He says he left them, but they were never found. Were they really lost, or disposed, cause they could be linked to Joran?....


Peter talking: I could imagine him losing his shoes, but now I'm on the scene, I can see its hard to believe losing your shoes on the beach, as its all very close by. So, did he lose them, or is something else going on?

my instincts are honed

<---------lighting up a cigar BUT i need to go outside


im with Angie, i want to hear PAPA SLOOOOOTS name  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Partners in crime?  geeshhhhhhhhhhhhh.. says it all right there!!   

joran the GANSTA  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

thats what he wanted to be


but but but... i thought he was a DELICIOIUS SPORTER

 Yep Wreck !!  Queer as a 3 dollar bill.. !!

I like this one from Ramm @ bfn

the guy who recorded Joran's story got close to Joran by playing poker with Joran, buying pot for Joran and giving him off the impression that he is a gangsta.

Joran believes he can learn criminal tips from this guy and believes there might be a criminal collusion in the future between the two

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Joran wanted to talk about the case more and more...



oh my  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDance::  got some good cigars for you and Wreck and anyone else that wants one! Hell.. I may smoke one myself.. even if it means me turning green and pukin!  ::MonkeyTongue::

SLOOTS GOING DOWN DOWN DOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

What a chucklehead.

Love ya, Angie!

Angie! I left a post for you Musings and am thrilled to see you here! Isn't this a great, long awaited Day?

Joran on tape and the story of him leaving a healthy Natalee innocently on the Beach is gone forever!

It's like toothpaste. You just can't get it back in the tube once it's squeezed out!  ::MonkeyWink::

Patrick thinks the truth is more important than Joran is, so he decides to contact Prdv.

Joran has an intrest in little criminal activities.

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Joran was dying to brag to someone to look like a big bad man....Disgusting.

 TY Nut and Klaas ~!!

Is there perhaps a poker game called Hide the sausage?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Boy that says it all.

your the best
pssttttttttt..i really dont smoke em.. but i will be having one today

:)

That's some scar Patrick has!

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Peter R. Update for CTV

zondag 3 februari 2008
Joran keeps hinting to Patrick he knows more. Patrick keeps holfding Joran off, but contacts Peter R. They make a plan...
Joran wants to do some petty crimes to make quick cash. Joran looks up to P, who he thinks is a bigtime grower/dealer. Joran gets in the car...
Patrick asks about N for the first time. Subtle, cause the case has been queit for a while, so no real reason to start talking about it.
Wednesday nov. 21...TYhe day before they want to make a first move, Joran is rearrested....

BUMMER

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6 months ago Peter got a great chance. Patrick vd EEE, an aruban guy who lives in NL, now an entrepeneur, made Joran believe they could e partners in crime. Thye met in a casino. He saw Joran there and spoke to Joran cause he's from the antillen as well...
Joran was smoking lots a weed in those days. Patrick made J believe he was selling/growing weed, which Joran found intrigueing. Joran gained trust cause P never asked about the case from the start. "I dont care I said, whats done was done.. Joran wanted to tell me but I kept holding it off. Kept saying "I cant keep it to myself, Im not ready to hear the story, but Joran kept insisting he'd tell me... I know I betrayed Joran, but Jorans not important Natalees family is, thats how I can keep a clear conscious".........

Love yah too Sweet Peaches  !!!  My potty mouthed partner in crime !  ::MonkeyWink::

secret footage from after the arrest in which Joran tells he didnt say a thing during the arrest.

patrick tells Joran he should be compensated because of the arrests.


Joran calling Patrick from Aruba about the interrogations and his release.

"They got nothing, I laughed at the interrogators"  

They later learn that this arrest will turn out to be helpful.
-> talk about the last arrest. Joran doesnt talk <-
2,5 week later Joran is free again. DA closes the case, for now. J no longer a suspect.

The relation with Pat is so good, Joran contacts Pat a few days after getting out of jail. Theyve installed cameras everywhere.

J on the phone from ARUBA in the car: "they had nothin, I laughed at the police.". Patrick says: you want some weed? I can get it for you from Holland, I got good connections....

http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

Did you see the scar on the informants face?

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Peter R. Update for CTV

zondag 3 februari 2008
They later learn that this arrest will turn out to be helpful.
-> talk about the last arrest. Joran doesnt talk <-
2,5 week later Joran is free again. DA closes the case, for now. J no longer a suspect.

The relation with Pat is so good, Joran contacts Pat a few days after getting out of jail. Theyve installed cameras everywhere.

J on the phone from ARUBA in the car: "they had nothin, I laughed at the police.". Patrick says: you want some weed? I can get it for you from Holland, I got good connections....

 CBB I'll check out your post this evening !!  TY.. Having lotsa troub;e trying to read or even post at the moment..LOL
241 guests online plus ALL of us signed in here to SM.. HOLY CRAP !!   ::MonkeyCool::

Fish hooked?

sure is oposite of what joran was saying the other day....he knew there was something about this guy...he was talking to his friends...etc.....hell...this guy didn't even want to know about the case and joran wanted to tell him.....smart guy....let trust build up first before finding anything about natalee!!!

 Robots ! You rock !! Always have with your positive attitude !!   ::MonkeyCool::

Yup,and he acted totally not interested in the case,Joran bit into it hook line and sinker..This guy is the man!!!!!!He did it for Beth and Natalee's Family!!   ::MonkeyCool::

Even the DeVries show was having technical difficulties for a moment:

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

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Thanks Angie, your offer of a cigar is very kind and generous -- but the gesture alone is more than enough!! I'll buy my own (and a few extras for some friends). I mistakenly "lit-up" in December -- but now it's for real!!!!!

I've been knocked off twice................save the link that Buckeye has so you can still follow should you get knocked off, while you're trying to get back in here! Here it is!

http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

 ::MonkeyCool::  That dude is spooky looking !! 

definitely, a phaser shot

Just like the old days .... server is busy....

I have this visual of Joe Taco sitting in his mafia-like house right now, glass of red wine, choking on his spaghetti as this unfolds.  He's thinking WTF am I going to say to the media?

This is great.  Joran, the kid who wanted to study law decided to do it the other way - as a petty criminal.... admired a gangstah.  Can't wait til the movie on this comes out.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Smoking like a chimney here Wreck..  Ackkkkkkkkk   ::MonkeyConfused::
And YW !   ::MonkeyWink::

YES!  But he's a HERO! 

Joran is not quite the PR "honor student" Taco tells us about.

Wow!  391 people online! 

After being released Joran stays with his parent for a month. But once he returns to Holland (jan 9th 2008) he'll have any reason to speak with Patrick.

-> They show how they prepare the car, 3 camera's, GPS tracking system, its a Range Rover. They also use some extra cars to follow Joran...


DAY 1, jan 10th
Par picks J up in his car. Joran got into a fight about a gambling debt.
They chitchat....
Joran says he no longer is a suspect. The DA knows hell lose if he goes to trial. And that they can never touch Joran then... "Even if they find her dead, with my semen in her". I just laughed, didnt say 1 word. I didnt even say "I remain silent"... I just kept my mouth shut. EVen in court. Nothing.. Kept my mouth closed.

BOMBSHELL # 1

"Even if they find her dead, with my semen in her". I just laughed, didnt say 1 word. I didnt even say "I remain silent"... I just kept my mouth shut. EVen in court. Nothing.. Kept my mouth closed.

Gotta be Philips.

OH MY BLOOD PRESSURE KEEPS RISING AS I READ!  THAT FREAKIN' SICK BASTARD!   ::MonkeyWaa::

And we haven't even go to the worst part yet!

 Joran is blowing while making a call?  WTH does that mean?  Blowing who?   ::MonkeyEek::

Even the Persistence is here. God bless you, Persistence.

He will go on Greta, she and her dopey panel will say they still are inclined to belive Joran, Hammer may make a comment that will get Joe T's voice sqeaking like Minne Mouse on her 1st date. And Greta will end saying this needs to be cooberated. JQK will come on and say nothing.
But my show on Tuesday will knock your socks off !
 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Even the judge said he thinks I know more".

Joran keeps talking about suing everyone for damages. He says they wanna go to Pauw & Wittemen. Joran is sure hell get loads of compensation money...
Joran tells how he was arrested in Holland: "I was laughing. I was stoned man".
About D&D: "I know them, they had a phat Honda Civic. I had known them for 8 months,we went out every weekend, they never picked up a girl, I got a new one almost every week"....

And then Patrick brings up Natalee: "will they ever find her? Where the hell is she Joran"

"Theyll never find her, I dont know where she is. This will turn out good for me, after the last arrest Ill get major compensation for damages"


Peter: though this isnt a straight up confession, it does show he never knows Natalee will never be found.... NOTE: this was the day before the P&W show!

BOMBSHELL # 2

He asks where Natalee is. Answer: never to be found again. joran says he doesnt know where she is, because its up to higher sources.

He says all he wants is a big financial settlement

From Eqivocation:

Joran says he no longer is a suspect. The DA knows hell lose if he goes to trial. And that they can never touch Joran then... "Even if they find her dead, with my semen in her".  I just laughed, didnt say 1 word. I didnt even say "I remain silent"... I just kept my mouth shut. EVen in court. Nothing.. Kept my mouth closed.

either cocaine or the PRIME MINISTER OF EVIL  -- GOAT MAN

Natalee Holloway Update 23; Joran knows something. Where the body is, who killed her, etc. Justice department 'idiots' says van der Sloot

After his release Joran stayed on Aruba for a month. On the 9th of January he returns to Holland and makes an appointment with van der Eem. They outfitted van der Eem's range rover with three cameras and a 'track and tracer' system. So that de Vries and his producers can follow him everywhere.

Live Footage now. Joran is bragging about a fight he had with someone in the holiday inn in casino. His father has already arranged for a settlement. Joran is talking about his father 'arranging' his release.

'I didn't say shit. They have nothing on me anymore. Even if they find her body with my sperm in it, they can't do shit. they're f***ing idiots." Joran is negative about the Aruban justice department. Claims that his father wanted the Pauw en Witteman interview to get higher damages. (the same episode with the wine throwing)

Joran Called the Officers who arrested him 'Putas' and is also criticising Deepak and Satish Kalpoe for not 'getting any chicks'.
Van der Eem jumps in and asks Joran about wether or not they're going to find her. "Where the f*** is she?"
"Never to be found."
"A higher power?"
"Yes, powers. I'm done with it. I'm just waiting for the claims."
Peter R. De Vries rushed over to the Pauw en Witteman for the episode. This is what he knew while the episode was going on.
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

Ted Williams says it all needs to be carbeurated. :)

Does that mean using cocaine? I have no idea. I'm not an insider about drug culture...just a guess.

He asks where Natalee is. Answer: never to be found again. joran says he doesnt know where she is, because its up to higher sources.


UP TO HIGHER SOURCES, EH? CORRUPTION!

I hope those freakin' sickos at RUFOB are HAPPY for supporting the poor JACKASS!   :gaah: :puker:

Blowing=Smoking Pot

I wonder if Greta is still inclined to believe her little sporter.  ::MonkeyRoll::

 Thanks Obs.. thats a new one to me.. never heard that one before ! 

Hi Di,,,you read my mind....that made my blood pressure rise sky high!!!

Is "Higher power" spelled D-A-D??

I just noticed.. we are all nakey now.. lol   ::MonkeyTongue::

i think i'm going to be sick

They show the wine throwing clip...
They show the wine throwing clip on Oprah...

2 days after the P&W show, after Jorans parents were back to Aruba, Pat&J meet again. Joran is talking about the wine throwing... "It was not aggresive"... "The show wasnt worth the 5000 euro we got".
"Joran says he knew Natalee for 2 days. They spend 3,5 hours together, in total. I can prove I was home half an hour after I left her."...

Why did Deepak lie?

Joran says: "i know why, cause hes afraid to get arrested again... Pat again: what happened, im from aruba, I know the beach.. Shes dead right.."

Joran saus:" Something hapopoened, I didnt kill her, the ocean is big, right? I got very lucking they never found her. No body no case. I trhink Im in the clear, they wont find a body. Let me tell you I never talked about this to anyone. They dumped her in the ocean. I know people who could helped me, Im not naming names... its not my parents, it was a friend, with a boat. "

smoking pot

Me neither, but like I said, I'm not hip!

Of all the people who should appreciate the Aruban justice system, it should be Joran. He's done nothing but benefit from it and all he can do is complain? What a horrible person this kid is! (As if we didn't know it before).

Even if he said no more, he just confessed with that statement. Im sure he will say more he is bragging his ass off now.

J: "This friend was an older friend, we been friends for a long time. I will NEVER name his name, NEVER, Ill take it with me in my grave. I called him, WALKED to the PAYPHONE. Pleae, no police, caome and help me. He came. She still looked normal, she just died."

THis sound like Lorenzo??

What a SICK POS BASTARD!  Neds hung by his testicles.. If he even has any.

they ahhhh uuhhhh,,,errrrrrrr  uuhhh NEEDED TO MOVE QUICKLY ::MonkeyCool::

Can you say DAD

He did not name him  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Lorenzo? Steve Croes?

This kid is SICK.

PAULUS and a friend with a BOAT came over

J: "He said, go home, Ill take care of it. I would give my life for him... He's great. This is a relief I NEVER TOLD ANYONE. Nat told I have a rich family, I never imagined this shit would happen man". Joran seems relieved. Joran says: "The two people I trust most are the guy with the boat, and you"

 Come sit next to me.. I have a bucket we can share ! 

We had to turn off avatars and make some other changes for server load.

Kind of like Scottie using the deflector shields to give us more power to the warp engines. ;)

Scottie ... give me all ya got ...

Yup. I be here too. I cannot keep up with all the many threads concerning, so if some monkey would be kind enough to 'wrap it up' for me, I'll take it.
Do we really think this is finally over?
Will Paulus sacrifice his son in order to save face?
Will Anita finally admit the truth about her 'not so delicious now' sporter?
Will Julia look better with all that egg on her face?
Stay tuned, As Aruba Turns is getting to be an even bigger sick soap opera.
Perhaps a public stoning of the VDS Family will be arranged to help vent some of the anger that has resulted from their sporters lack of any judgement....

Posted by Daniel at RU:

Well, De Vries was right.. I *am* shocked.

Damn!

He aslo said the guy was older and smart en that he had a boat right there(i think that means in the water) so in my mind steve croes pops up

So....he didn't do anything to Natalee? She just lay there and died and "looked normal?" And when she just upped and died, looking normal and all, he didn't try to get help for her? Instead, he called someone with a boat who would dispose of her body in the ocean?

Yeah, sure, that makes all the sense in the world.  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

The parents will be pleased to hear this. Not.

 Dana.. you read my mind!  My first thought when I read the post ! Daddy Sloot

Natalee Holloway Update 24; Joran believed himself to be invincible. Confesses to dumping the body, she died 'spontaneously'

Joran believed himself to be completely safe from the prosecutors. Telling van der Eem he woul

"What happened to her?"
"Something happened there. I was lucky, the ocean is huge. I'm fucked if they find her. But It(the body)is gone now. they'll never find her now.'
'Did you swim out?'
'I know people there(Aruba) too. Someone helped me.. I'm not saying who.."
'Why would he do that for you?"
" I know him, have known him for years, he had a boat... I'll never name his name."
Joran claims that Natalee died in his arms, spontaneously, 'she looked normal.."
"This guy, that helped you. He's gold..."
"I'm going to help him financially."
"You didn't know she was a friend of the bushes."
"Yeah, those fuckers, she told me she was rich, but that I didn't know."
Joran van der Sloot concludes with.
"Of the two people here(Holland) you and Him(accomplice with boat)are the only ones I trust."

Peter R. de Vries and Patrick van der Eem now have the task of finding out who this accomplice is.....
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

Dilbart is also shocked.  Wonder if Medleyrelay and Moonshadows are shocked?  I'm not shocked.

Yes, I agree...let us know who it is when you hear. Thanks.

CTV just closed for Superbowl, so a bunch of us are here with you all, if that's ok.

We'll be really quiet.....

 Ty Red and DUgga.. seems to sure have helped ALOT !

OK, commercial break.
Joran was with her when she died, he didnt kill her, she just died. He called a friend who he had know a long time. The friend came and said he'd take care of it. Joran says: "the ocean is big"... Says he got lucky they never found the body.
Joran told Patrick he had never told anyone this story, he looks relieved.
He also says he will never name the guy who helped him.
Patrick 'feeds' Joran a bit, saying that he would help Joran make some money, so Joran can give it to the guy who helped him. Joran says something like I Owe him my life....

Joran does seem relieved he finally told someone and got it off his chest.

No problem at all, you don't even have to be quiet  ::MonkeyHaHa::  We were expecting company today  ::MonkeyWink::

I remind you this is the first time he confessed and Peter said at the beginnning he confessed multipale times and evertime revealed more so i think there are coming a bit more details als o who has brought him home after that

My guess is Croes......how many days was he detained for? We know it never made sense for him to be detained for what 10 days? for the stupid reason of "over hearing a conversation. No wonder he was fired from his job..........

Sorry , but healthy eighteen year old girls don't just up and die in someones arms.... unless that someone has done something to cause this "spontaneous "death...

GOOD Job DUGGA and RED!

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Thanks ciskebab

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Welcome Jill and other new folks !  No need to be quiet! Jump right in and bitch with the rest of us! LOL

I would imagine there are several refugees lying on the floor in need of smelling salts right about now.

The person who said "go home, I'll take care of it" was someone who "cares" for Joran...wants him out of harms way...takes care of things for Joran...Paulus or Lorenzo (if he's really half brother)?

HOW PALE IS TACOPINA RIGHT NOW READING AND WATCHING THIS!!!

Tomorrow we will see his resigning from the case.

Peter R. De Vries, you are now added to my list of heros.

thanks for the welcome, Klaas.

Hope the server can stand it  ::MonkeyDance::

I do have to say that I was looking forward to this - now I'm heartsick.  I would like to get my hands on him.

The friend with a boat is a long time friend and now lives in Holland. MY opinion KG?

'I know people there(Aruba) too. Someone helped me.. I'm not saying who.."
'Why would he do that for you?"
" I know him, have known him for years, he had a boat... I'll never name his name."
Joran claims that Natalee died in his arms, spontaneously, 'she looked normal.."
"This guy, that helped you. He's gold..."
"I'm going to help him financially."
"You didn't know she was a friend of the bushes."
"Yeah, those fuckers, she told me she was rich, but that I didn't know."
Joran van der Sloot concludes with.
"Of the two people here(Holland) you and Him(accomplice with boat)are the only ones I trust."

He sais it was someone callt Daury never been arrested

Welcome to our CTV friends!

Sounds like Kown IMO.. may splai why he sleeps with mommy and pisses the bed.

He tryed to pull NAtalee up?  WTH?  Dumbass could have called 911.. :(  Stupid F@@KER.. I hate his guts.

Koen is the same age as Joran.  I don't see him being so cavalier about it. He doesn't appear to be so worldly.

My money has always been on Lorenzo.

But was told by some that it was a rumor about the brother stuff.

Thank you Scared Monkeys - and all involved.

This is just so sad  ::MonkeyWaa::

I stand with the girl.

And with her family.

Thats what I can't wait to hear!   Peter asked him that question several times right before the wine throwing incident.  Peter knew the answer all the time, and sporter wouldn't say...

Now that Joran confessed to Pat, Patrick can ask about the case some more...

P: "How do you know she was dead Joran?"
J: "I lifted her, I touched her, she was dead, I tried everything. I knew these some guys from way back, this one guy helped me. I got something on him as well, so he might talk, but I dont think he will. The guy now lives in Holland".

Peter: Joran went home to clear his tracks: MSN, pron downloading etc. Tries to make an alibi.

J: "I didnt ask the guy to help me, he came and saw me there on the beach, and he offered to help me. He was 25. He knew I was going to the US, so he wanted to help me. In the beginning I played it smart, cause I knew they couldnt find her. Well, and I was SOOOOO lucky, cause they never even questioned this guy. The guy has his ÿachting license" I dont know how he dumped her, her says he just dumped her off the boat. I was SOOOO lucky.
I just went home and slept, that night"

The name of the guy who dumped her: DAURY!

All of you are more than welcome  and please do not be quiet, we want to hear your opinions and comments.

Patrick and Joran keep talking and talking. Joran says it went EVEN BETTER THAN HE THOUGHT.  Justice will have to pay him , pay him a lot. He is not a suspect anymore , he is out of their claws and now they will pay.
And Natalee? Ah , thats's just a dead girl man.
And slowly the talk goes on. And yes , he knows she will never return.
How do you know that? Because she is dead man haha , she is dead and I know because I saw her die man.

At this stage he does not tell hwo she died , just that she died on the beach.
He then called his best friend (how come police never found his best friend?) , and the friend came over and said come on , no problem.
So Joran went home , and the friend got his boat and picked her up and dumped her in the ocean.

Joran was afraid in the beginning she would wash ashore , but that did not happen.
Patrick says if it was over two miles , she will never come back man.
Joran seems satisfied about that.
Then they talk a while about the mysterious friend. Joran does not tell who he is , and Patrick "does not wnat to know"
But Patrick also says , we will make a lot of money man , so you can pay him back for what he did for you.
And so the friend is still in their talks..............

You know, it's odd - so far Joran hasn't said a word about how Jug raped Natalee and got her pregnant and she was in hiding in South America.....So much for that RU theory.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

  LOL Lalas !!  DIlbert of ALL people..  ha ha ha  Im SHOCKED me thinks!  Mr Dentist Bunny himself.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks Red and Dugga.  I was just able to sign on after getting a lot of server is busy messages.  ::MonkeyDance::

Daury's *** is grass.

I have always questioned his role anyway, is he Jorans media lawyer, is he his aruba lawyer. He wont resign there will be a great deal of media attention for this. He knows Greta wont be hard on him.

Thanks, Red.  But right now I'm pretty much in tears.

That little **************.

The name of the guy who dumped her: DAURY!
http://prdvtranslations.blogspot.com/

The wonderful Greta should be asked the same thing .

Who's Daury?

"You'll get 15 years if they see that chit" - what chit?? Hope further confessions reveal more details.

Daury?  New name to me.. ::MonkeyEek::

Natalee Holloway Update 25; Joran more 'relaxed' after confession. "She was just Dead... CPR did not work..."

More live translation of the tapes... Sorry for the spelling, there is a lot going on.
"Aren't you scared he'll rat you out?"
"I've got something on him as well.."

Joran apparently fixed certain details and set up an alibi.

"He offered, I didn't ask him. He didn't know how big it was going to get,"
"And..."
"They haven't even questioned him..."
"How old is he? Your age?"
"No, 25.."
"How did he do it?"
"I don't know, he did it all."
"What is his name?"
"Daury.."
"Daury What?"
"Daury *******" (beeped)

Now Peter is talking about Joran's father's machinations. He apparently got him a phone while in prison. "He such an idiot, bought me a phone, but forgot to buy a lot of credit. There was only 10 guilders on it." This contradicts the story in his book.
http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/

Thank you so much Ciskebab!  Unknown party.  So all the guesses were completely wrong.

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I imagine TakeAPenny is pretty drunk right now, and probably full from eating all that crow.

Well then he should feel a whole lot better when he serves time for drugging raping and disposing of her. "Going in and out of consciousness" is a phrase that we have heard in the past to describe Natalee during her time after leaving C+C's with the perps...in which case what occurred is rape.

Does this mean SMS is on the Titanic?

But his father did call in a favor and got him a phone inside the jail. His father bought him a phone, calls his father a f***ing idiot for not putting any phone minutes on the phone he procured for him.

Oh ouch. He calls his father an idiot, after all the father has done for him. Dumb dumb dumb.