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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 06, 2008, 01:36:17 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/cayleemontage.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 07:59:36 PM
Whats going on with the cam? Did they block it or something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 06, 2008, 07:59:54 PM
Nice and smoothe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 06, 2008, 08:00:31 PM
DOUBLE LOCK  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 08:00:38 PM
swinging over...wheeeeeeee!!



(http://i34.tinypic.com/o609zs.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blonde on September 06, 2008, 08:00:52 PM
It's hard, you have to get all your ducks in order ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Katysmom on September 06, 2008, 08:01:16 PM
awwww...that opening pic makes me cry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 08:01:41 PM
New camera angle. Maybe they are rigging up a hose to spray the protesters.

You'd think Lee would have something better to do today than hang out with babykiller.  Like...maybe actually look for his neice??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: FL Beagle Mom on September 06, 2008, 08:02:09 PM

Here is interesting post that was sent to me:Originally posted by sadmom:
Hi first let me say as a mother who lost a 21 year old daughter 3 years ago, This whole case makes me sick to my stomach. She was not missing but one think I wanted was to be sure her final resting place was a place that is beautiful and special. I can also assure you she was there to welcome Caylee into heaven.

Now for the first year I was unable to get out of bed, I grieve everyday and will the rest of my life, so the actions and behavior of this mother shows me she is not only a very sick woman but very evil.

I also know a very high ranking retired LE officer from FLA who told me several things he was told:

Naturally they have more info. then they are releasing. They are building a very strong case and Casey will be arrest for murder.

1) Cindy Anthony lied from the beginning to give credit to Casey's story. She never heard Casey mention Zenda Gonzales before. She heard her speak of a nanny but no name. The Investigator are thinking Casey either overheard Zenda on the phone making an appt. to go see an apartment. Or found something with the information on it. They have spoken to this woman she has no idea who Casey or Caylee are. Also explains why a woman showed up at complex to see an apartment. The apartment complex
confirmed a hispanic woman did indeed look at an aprt.

2)There are records on any phone to or from any nanny/babysitter

3)It is true that DNA from the hair is Caylee's and eveidence does show that the father is a male related by blood to Casey, however it has no relevence in the case, because they do not feel he is at all involved in Caylee's disappearence.

4) an unamed person has told LE that CIndy had chloroform in a cabinet at her home. Did she
use it to clean the car after smelling dead body or was it used to kill Caylee they have not said. Could that have been hidden in George's car? Could be.

No one else is supected of helping Casey hid or kill her daughter.

Cindy Anthony was advised by a thearopist to press charges against Casey for all the theft, and to seek custody of Caylee. That is what the fight the neighbors heard, Cindy informed Casey of her intentions.



See I haven't seen Casey grieving for the loss of her child at all... my mom died of cancer when i was 30...we were like best friends...and it took me a year to where I could actually say i came out of a fog. All I wanted to do was stay in bed, I cried all the time, lost a lot of weight etc. So I don't know how Casey can get up every day and act like nothing happened ... I know if I lost my son, they'd have to sedate me. Yea, she's evil.

Ooops, I got locked out of the #16 thread...too slow  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:02:10 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::
 
Nice and  smooth change ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 06, 2008, 08:02:32 PM
DOUBLE LOCK  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ain't NOBODY getting in that thread!!

That's the second time I've gotten involved in changing Caylee's thread, and both times 2 of us were at the helm. For the Record, I'm swearing off!     ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:03:46 PM
DOUBLE LOCK  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ain't NOBODY getting in that thread!!

That's the second time I've gotten involved in changing Caylee's thread, and both times 2 of us were at the helm. For the Record, I'm swearing off!     ::MonkeyCool::

Swearing off of what CBB ?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 08:03:56 PM
DAG NABBIT .... why did they move the camera?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 06, 2008, 08:04:02 PM
It's hard, you have to get all your ducks in order ::MonkeyCool::

I know you have to first unlock, then paste the thread is locked, say move to the new thread, and finally post the link.  Then I look again to make sure I didn't miss anything.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 08:04:27 PM
New camera angle. Maybe they are rigging up a hose to spray the protesters.

You'd think Lee would have something better to do today than hang out with babykiller.  Like...maybe actually look for his neice??

If he was rigging a hose wouldnt that be some sort of assult against people? I mean doing it in that way. Or am I just dumb?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 08:05:04 PM
wow. I got stuck inbetween....ouch

It looks like they are installing floodlights
I guess we will find out after dark, eh?
They wanna watch us watching them

 Riley, try orange county clerk of the court to find public records


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Riley on September 06, 2008, 08:05:33 PM
Ok, I said I was mad, but you didn't have to lock the thread on me.  ::MonkeyWink::  I'm dragging this over here, in case someone pops in that can help me.  This money thing makes me sick when it is Caylee that should be the focus.

So repeat:
That does it!  I am totally livid over this money stuff.  In a lot of counties, they have public records on line that you can review - property deeds, site plans, divorces, TRUSTS.  Does anyone know off hand if Orlando has theirs anywhere?  Since donations go to Ambulance Chasers & Sons and then the bank has a designated fund, they would have the detail as well, right?  I want to know if the tin can money and all these donations to the family are being deposited and I want to know what the expenditures are.  If these nuts are using the funds for anything other than finding Caylee (and I think the family can stop checking the dining room and start looking outside), people should know so the funds can go to the people that are looking rather than the Anthony quality of life fund.  Anyone have any ideas what or where Florida would have this stuff?  I'm on a mission now...   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Dana on September 06, 2008, 08:05:46 PM
DOUBLE LOCK  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ain't NOBODY getting in that thread!!

That's the second time I've gotten involved in changing Caylee's thread, and both times 2 of us were at the helm. For the Record, I'm swearing off!     ::MonkeyCool::

Swearing off of what CBB ?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hey oldfart how's life been treating you.
Long time no see.
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Katysmom on September 06, 2008, 08:06:48 PM

Here is interesting post that was sent to me:Originally posted by sadmom:
Hi first let me say as a mother who lost a 21 year old daughter 3 years ago, This whole case makes me sick to my stomach. She was not missing but one think I wanted was to be sure her final resting place was a place that is beautiful and special. I can also assure you she was there to welcome Caylee into heaven.

Now for the first year I was unable to get out of bed, I grieve everyday and will the rest of my life, so the actions and behavior of this mother shows me she is not only a very sick woman but very evil.

I also know a very high ranking retired LE officer from FLA who told me several things he was told:

Naturally they have more info. then they are releasing. They are building a very strong case and Casey will be arrest for murder.

1) Cindy Anthony lied from the beginning to give credit to Casey's story. She never heard Casey mention Zenda Gonzales before. She heard her speak of a nanny but no name. The Investigator are thinking Casey either overheard Zenda on the phone making an appt. to go see an apartment. Or found something with the information on it. They have spoken to this woman she has no idea who Casey or Caylee are. Also explains why a woman showed up at complex to see an apartment. The apartment complex
confirmed a hispanic woman did indeed look at an aprt.

2)There are records on any phone to or from any nanny/babysitter

3)It is true that DNA from the hair is Caylee's and eveidence does show that the father is a male related by blood to Casey, however it has no relevence in the case, because they do not feel he is at all involved in Caylee's disappearence.

4) an unamed person has told LE that CIndy had chloroform in a cabinet at her home. Did she
use it to clean the car after smelling dead body or was it used to kill Caylee they have not said. Could that have been hidden in George's car? Could be.

No one else is supected of helping Casey hid or kill her daughter.

Cindy Anthony was advised by a thearopist to press charges against Casey for all the theft, and to seek custody of Caylee. That is what the fight the neighbors heard, Cindy informed Casey of her intentions.



See I haven't seen Casey grieving for the loss of her child at all... my mom died of cancer when i was 30...we were like best friends...and it took me a year to where I could actually say i came out of a fog. All I wanted to do was stay in bed, I cried all the time, lost a lot of weight etc. So I don't know how Casey can get up every day and act like nothing happened ... I know if I lost my son, they'd have to sedate me. Yea, she's evil.

Ooops, I got locked out of the #16 thread...too slow  ::MonkeyTongue::

Don't slam me, but....while this all sounds vesible and we've discussed most of it, I just don't see LE giving information to a "retired" officer, no matter how high his rank.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 08:06:57 PM
New camera angle. Maybe they are rigging up a hose to spray the protesters.

You'd think Lee would have something better to do today than hang out with babykiller.  Like...maybe actually look for his neice??

If he was rigging a hose wouldnt that be some sort of assult against people? I mean doing it in that way. Or am I just dumb?

Nope, you're not dumb.  Hoses and hammers are Cindys favorite weapons.  I was just being silly...Cindy threatened to spray the reporters (maggots, as she called them) with hoses several times.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Dana on September 06, 2008, 08:07:20 PM
wow. I got stuck inbetween....ouch

It looks like they are installing floodlights
I guess we will find out after dark, eh?
They wanna watch us watching them

 Riley, try orange county clerk of the court to find public records

maybe for a live shot for geraldo tonight ?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: FLGrammy on September 06, 2008, 08:07:25 PM
swinging over...wheeeeeeee!!



(http://i34.tinypic.com/o609zs.jpg)


OKay, now that made me laugh  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:07:56 PM
DOUBLE LOCK  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ain't NOBODY getting in that thread!!

That's the second time I've gotten involved in changing Caylee's thread, and both times 2 of us were at the helm. For the Record, I'm swearing off!     ::MonkeyCool::


Swearing off of what CBB ?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hey oldfart how's life been treating you.
Long time no see.
 ::MonkeyDance::
Hey Dana...

a day older each day but not much wiser   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 06, 2008, 08:08:18 PM
From Topix

     The two guys on the ladder at the Anthony's house, any guesses on what they are doing?
    Maybe putting a spotlight up to shine back on the camera?
    Other guesses???

Probably a security camera. They called LE out once today saying someone had thrown something at the house, but were unable to identify who.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 06, 2008, 08:08:55 PM
CBB, Thanks so Much for helping me with my avatar, You're such a sweet person!

Hi, Fellow Monkeys !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Dana on September 06, 2008, 08:09:00 PM
DOUBLE LOCK  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ain't NOBODY getting in that thread!!

That's the second time I've gotten involved in changing Caylee's thread, and both times 2 of us were at the helm. For the Record, I'm swearing off!     ::MonkeyCool::


Swearing off of what CBB ?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hey oldfart how's life been treating you.
Long time no see.
 ::MonkeyDance::
Hey Dana...

a day older each day but not much wiser   ::MonkeyConfused::

yep story of my life too
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 08:10:04 PM
There seems to be a fair amount of people milling around, I have a feeling something is gonna get real ugly there tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Dana on September 06, 2008, 08:10:10 PM
From Topix

     The two guys on the ladder at the Anthony's house, any guesses on what they are doing?
    Maybe putting a spotlight up to shine back on the camera?
    Other guesses???

Probably a security camera. They called LE out once today saying someone had thrown something at the house, but were unable to identify who.

yeah with all the media around and the apparent threats funny a camera wasnt installed long ago



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:11:31 PM
What did the signs  say ??
Do I need to back to the old cage  and find them ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 08:11:42 PM
Dana,
 On the Foxcam, it shows the Anthony's having some sort of large light put on the house, a spotlight for safety?
I think they should be more afraid of what is INSIDE than out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Puzzler on September 06, 2008, 08:11:43 PM
From Topix

     The two guys on the ladder at the Anthony's house, any guesses on what they are doing?
    Maybe putting a spotlight up to shine back on the camera?
    Other guesses???

Probably a security camera. They called LE out once today saying someone had thrown something at the house, but were unable to identify who.

Also, maybe want to shine bright lights on protesters.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 06, 2008, 08:12:28 PM
There seems to be a fair amount of people milling around, I have a feeling something is gonna get real ugly there tonight.

Mine webcam keeps going blank..............is it working for anyone else?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Dana on September 06, 2008, 08:12:42 PM
Dana,
 On the Foxcam, it shows the Anthony's having some sort of large light put on the house, a spotlight for safety?
I think they should be more afraid of what is INSIDE than out
yes so true ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 08:13:38 PM
There seems to be a fair amount of people milling around, I have a feeling something is gonna get real ugly there tonight.


Mine too 
Mine webcam keeps going blank..............is it working for anyone else?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 06, 2008, 08:14:14 PM
There seems to be a fair amount of people milling around, I have a feeling something is gonna get real ugly there tonight.

Mine webcam keeps going blank..............is it working for anyone else?

Crazy mine is white.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 08:14:27 PM
There seems to be a fair amount of people milling around, I have a feeling something is gonna get real ugly there tonight.

Mine webcam keeps going blank..............is it working for anyone else?

Not me  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 08:14:27 PM
mee too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 06, 2008, 08:14:47 PM
There seems to be a fair amount of people milling around, I have a feeling something is gonna get real ugly there tonight.

Mine webcam keeps going blank..............is it working for anyone else?

Mine keeps going out too, I have it on bookmarks, I just have to go back and reload it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 08:14:49 PM
I have been gone all day, and have like 50+ pages to catch up on.  ::MonkeyWaa::  Can anybody please tell me if anything big happened today aside from George having his trunk raided early this morning? 

(As for that, I find it VERY interesting that the cops would know to go right to a certain place in his trunk, don't you?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 06, 2008, 08:15:27 PM
It's up now but the only thing I can see is the garage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 06, 2008, 08:16:17 PM
There seems to be a fair amount of people milling around, I have a feeling something is gonna get real ugly there tonight.

Mine webcam keeps going blank..............is it working for anyone else?

Not me  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This webcam goes out more than Casey did!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 08:17:02 PM
I have been gone all day, and have like 50+ pages to catch up on.  ::MonkeyWaa::  Can anybody please tell me if anything big happened today aside from George having his trunk raided early this morning? 

(As for that, I find it VERY interesting that the cops would know to go right to a certain place in his trunk, don't you?)
1. supposedly(not verified yet) K-9's cant get anything of caylees from family for scented search
2. Baez and Lee there all day
3. spotlights or security cams istalled near front door


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blonde on September 06, 2008, 08:17:14 PM
WE HAVE A TORNADO WATCH - WARNING HERE ,SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I WILL HAVE POWER.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/rad_nat_640x480_12.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: 4th_kids on September 06, 2008, 08:17:14 PM

Here is interesting post that was sent to me:Originally posted by sadmom:
Hi first let me say as a mother who lost a 21 year old daughter 3 years ago, This whole case makes me sick to my stomach. She was not missing but one think I wanted was to be sure her final resting place was a place that is beautiful and special. I can also assure you she was there to welcome Caylee into heaven.

Now for the first year I was unable to get out of bed, I grieve everyday and will the rest of my life, so the actions and behavior of this mother shows me she is not only a very sick woman but very evil.

I also know a very high ranking retired LE officer from FLA who told me several things he was told:

Naturally they have more info. then they are releasing. They are building a very strong case and Casey will be arrest for murder.

1) Cindy Anthony lied from the beginning to give credit to Casey's story. She never heard Casey mention Zenda Gonzales before. She heard her speak of a nanny but no name. The Investigator are thinking Casey either overheard Zenda on the phone making an appt. to go see an apartment. Or found something with the information on it. They have spoken to this woman she has no idea who Casey or Caylee are. Also explains why a woman showed up at complex to see an apartment. The apartment complex
confirmed a hispanic woman did indeed look at an aprt.

2)There are records on any phone to or from any nanny/babysitter

3)It is true that DNA from the hair is Caylee's and eveidence does show that the father is a male related by blood to Casey, however it has no relevence in the case, because they do not feel he is at all involved in Caylee's disappearence.

4) an unamed person has told LE that CIndy had chloroform in a cabinet at her home. Did she
use it to clean the car after smelling dead body or was it used to kill Caylee they have not said. Could that have been hidden in George's car? Could be.

No one else is supected of helping Casey hid or kill her daughter.

Cindy Anthony was advised by a thearopist to press charges against Casey for all the theft, and to seek custody of Caylee. That is what the fight the neighbors heard, Cindy informed Casey of her intentions.



See I haven't seen Casey grieving for the loss of her child at all... my mom died of cancer when i was 30...we were like best friends...and it took me a year to where I could actually say i came out of a fog. All I wanted to do was stay in bed, I cried all the time, lost a lot of weight etc. So I don't know how Casey can get up every day and act like nothing happened ... I know if I lost my son, they'd have to sedate me. Yea, she's evil.

Ooops, I got locked out of the #16 thread...too slow  ::MonkeyTongue::

I feel the same way and if I lost any of my kids, they will have to pry them from my arms in order to bury them so even if it was accident, it's the disposing of the body that says Casey is still a monster to be able to just throw your child away and move on happily with your life.

The same can be said of Cindy, she knows what happened to Caylee, I think she found out shortly after Casey was arrested, otherwise, she would have been hounding Casey about where Caylee was, not worrying about LE listening in on a call, Caylee would have been priority over that, especially if Cindy thought she was alive, period. And if she believed Casey was telling the truth, how could it hurt any defense when the child would be found, LE would know that her story was true and the babysitter took her.They all know and knew at that time that Casey would be facing murder charges down the road , that's the case they're afraid of hurting, not the neglect and false report.

jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 06, 2008, 08:17:27 PM
I have been gone all day, and have like 50+ pages to catch up on.  ::MonkeyWaa::  Can anybody please tell me if anything big happened today aside from George having his trunk raided early this morning? 

(As for that, I find it VERY interesting that the cops would know to go right to a certain place in his trunk, don't you?)

Yes something happened today not for sure but would put my bottom dollar on it Casey lied!!!! ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 08:17:37 PM
I have been gone all day, and have like 50+ pages to catch up on.  ::MonkeyWaa::  Can anybody please tell me if anything big happened today aside from George having his trunk raided early this morning? 

(As for that, I find it VERY interesting that the cops would know to go right to a certain place in his trunk, don't you?)

Not a thing another .......  claims there was a "tip" called in to LE between 12:00 and 1:00 saying there was a gun on the premesis ....... Line of thinking is possible that tip came from home being bugged .....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:17:54 PM
This camera angle   is  Poo...   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 06, 2008, 08:18:22 PM
WE HAVE A TORNADO WATCH - WARNING HERE ,SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I WILL HAVE POWER.

Stay safe Blonde!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
WE HAVE A TORNADO WATCH - WARNING HERE ,SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I WILL HAVE POWER.

Take cover Blonde ..... Be safe


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 06, 2008, 08:19:50 PM
WE HAVE A TORNADO WATCH - WARNING HERE ,SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I WILL HAVE POWER.

Stay safe Blonde!!!!

Be carefull Blondie I went through all that last week


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:21:33 PM
Stay Safe Blonde...
make sure you know where you are going to duck & cover at.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 06, 2008, 08:22:14 PM
I just sent my sister to the store and hopefully she comes back with the Globe.  If she does I will scan it and try to post it.  If it doesn't post right I will send it to Klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2008, 08:23:05 PM
There seems to be a fair amount of people milling around, I have a feeling something is gonna get real ugly there tonight.


Mine too 
Mine webcam keeps going blank..............is it working for anyone else?

Evening Monks...I hope someone can see me this evening.....I don't wanna scream ::MonkeyTongue::  All I can get on the webcam is a little box with a red x in it...I refreshed a bazillion times, and right clicked and clicked show picture....nothing but that darn little red box...and idea?? I am on cam 1....is that the correct one? Would someone please post the link to what they are seeing...thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 08:23:56 PM
Looks like someone was bored  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/cam090608i.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 06, 2008, 08:24:29 PM
MIne is doing the red x t hingy too..right now, all i see is the garage, some cars, and a rather large lady in green... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2008, 08:25:05 PM
WE HAVE A TORNADO WATCH - WARNING HERE ,SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I WILL HAVE POWER.

BE careful and stay SAFE!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Katysmom on September 06, 2008, 08:27:43 PM
Wasn't it Lee who asked Cindy about Caylee being pregnant and when Cindy denied it he then said "then she has a tumor the size of a baby"???  If Lee knew there was a possibility he could be the father, he'd be going "Oh Chit" and not say anything to Cindy.  That leaves GEORGE


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:27:59 PM
Looks like someone was bored  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/cam090608i.jpg)

LoL   with that camera angle  that  SWAN ?  may be the best thing we get to see  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 06, 2008, 08:29:44 PM
seriously? what up with the camera view..it sucks!!!!!!!!!! :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:30:20 PM
some one changed the angle   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 06, 2008, 08:30:49 PM
Looks like someone was bored  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/cam090608i.jpg)

Klas you are a mess there has been nights I have gone to bed hurting from laughing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 06, 2008, 08:31:06 PM
Wasn't it Lee who asked Cindy about Caylee being pregnant and when Cindy denied it he then said "then she has a tumor the size of a baby"???  If Lee knew there was a possibility he could be the father, he'd be going "Oh Chit" and not say anything to Cindy.  That leaves GEORGE

That was Cndys brother that said that when the Anthonys went to his wedding a few years back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 06, 2008, 08:31:17 PM
they heard us...FINALLY!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:31:21 PM
I wonder if those are protestor  or support people protecting the  lawn ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 06, 2008, 08:31:31 PM
Protestor's still there!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2008, 08:31:44 PM
seriously? what up with the camera view..it sucks!!!!!!!!!! :2brickwall:

WOOHOO I got a picture...try it Nikki!!  Has anyone been able to read the signs the protesters have??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2008, 08:32:47 PM
Please can someone repost stupido stalker cam?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2008, 08:33:46 PM
DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!  red box again... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:33:48 PM
Please can someone repost stupido stalker cam?
Karma   http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 06, 2008, 08:34:09 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2008, 08:34:46 PM
Please can someone repost stupido stalker cam?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

RED BOX


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:36:47 PM
Looks like they are planning on spending the nite


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Katysmom on September 06, 2008, 08:37:25 PM
Wasn't it Lee who asked Cindy about Caylee being pregnant and when Cindy denied it he then said "then she has a tumor the size of a baby"???  If Lee knew there was a possibility he could be the father, he'd be going "Oh Chit" and not say anything to Cindy.  That leaves GEORGE

That was Cndys brother that said that when the Anthonys went to his wedding a few years back.

You're right....never min


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 06, 2008, 08:37:58 PM
What the FUDGE!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyEek::

somebody fix staker cam!!!! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 08:38:29 PM
I have been gone all day, and have like 50+ pages to catch up on.  ::MonkeyWaa::  Can anybody please tell me if anything big happened today aside from George having his trunk raided early this morning? 

(As for that, I find it VERY interesting that the cops would know to go right to a certain place in his trunk, don't you?)
1. supposedly(not verified yet) K-9's cant get anything of caylees from family for scented search
2. Baez and Lee there all day
3. spotlights or security cams istalled near front door

Gas cans in trunk, chloroform in trunk, decomposing body, in trunk, gun in trunk............They love the trunk.  Maybe Casey and Cindy well end up in the trunk. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:41:22 PM
I'm thinking the people at the house are supporters..   they have signs in the yard, sitting on the sidewalk   and no   one out there with a hammer  telling them to leave


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Riley on September 06, 2008, 08:45:03 PM
I'm thinking the people at the house are supporters..   they have signs in the yard, sitting on the sidewalk   and no   one out there with a hammer  telling them to leave
Well, those supporters need to take that child home to bed.  It's past bedtime!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 08:45:25 PM
So it was a gun in the trunk? Not chloroform or a wheel chock?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 08:46:25 PM
Not sure how supportive they are, but the first two signs they placed said Baby Killer on them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 08:48:06 PM

Here is interesting post that was sent to me:Originally posted by sadmom:
Hi first let me say as a mother who lost a 21 year old daughter 3 years ago, This whole case makes me sick to my stomach. She was not missing but one think I wanted was to be sure her final resting place was a place that is beautiful and special. I can also assure you she was there to welcome Caylee into heaven.

Now for the first year I was unable to get out of bed, I grieve everyday and will the rest of my life, so the actions and behavior of this mother shows me she is not only a very sick woman but very evil.

I also know a very high ranking retired LE officer from FLA who told me several things he was told:

Naturally they have more info. then they are releasing. They are building a very strong case and Casey will be arrest for murder.

1) Cindy Anthony lied from the beginning to give credit to Casey's story. She never heard Casey mention Zenda Gonzales before. She heard her speak of a nanny but no name. The Investigator are thinking Casey either overheard Zenda on the phone making an appt. to go see an apartment. Or found something with the information on it. They have spoken to this woman she has no idea who Casey or Caylee are. Also explains why a woman showed up at complex to see an apartment. The apartment complex
confirmed a hispanic woman did indeed look at an aprt.

2)There are records on any phone to or from any nanny/babysitter

3)It is true that DNA from the hair is Caylee's and eveidence does show that the father is a male related by blood to Casey, however it has no relevence in the case, because they do not feel he is at all involved in Caylee's disappearence.

4) an unamed person has told LE that CIndy had chloroform in a cabinet at her home. Did she
use it to clean the car after smelling dead body or was it used to kill Caylee they have not said. Could that have been hidden in George's car? Could be.

No one else is supected of helping Casey hid or kill her daughter.

Cindy Anthony was advised by a thearopist to press charges against Casey for all the theft, and to seek custody of Caylee. That is what the fight the neighbors heard, Cindy informed Casey of her intentions.



See I haven't seen Casey grieving for the loss of her child at all... my mom died of cancer when i was 30...we were like best friends...and it took me a year to where I could actually say i came out of a fog. All I wanted to do was stay in bed, I cried all the time, lost a lot of weight etc. So I don't know how Casey can get up every day and act like nothing happened ... I know if I lost my son, they'd have to sedate me. Yea, she's evil.

Ooops, I got locked out of the #16 thread...too slow  ::MonkeyTongue::

Don't slam me, but....while this all sounds vesible and we've discussed most of it, I just don't see LE giving information to a "retired" officer, no matter how high his rank.

My dad is a retired police chief from up in New England.  He knows everything that is still going on.  Police (no offense) are very "talkative."

My son plays football with a kid whose father is on the OSCO.  He hasn't been there the last 2 weeks probably because we all pump him for info.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:48:37 PM
Not sure how supportive they are, but the first two signs they placed said Baby Killer on them.

 ::MonkeyShocked::  Kippy  I did not see that ... thanks   NOT  supporters then.. .means LE will have been called


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 08:51:02 PM
forget the stalkere cam, i want a live stream.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 08:51:18 PM
Not sure how supportive they are, but the first two signs they placed said Baby Killer on them.

 ::MonkeyShocked::  Kippy  I did not see that ... thanks   NOT  supporters then.. .means LE will have been called

You're welcome.  I saw them put them up earlier today and you could see them okay in the light. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 08:51:45 PM
I'm thinking the people at the house are supporters..  they have signs in the yard, sitting on the sidewalk   and no   one out there with a hammer  telling them to leave

I don't think it's supporters.  I think the protesters were told they could stay as long as they didn't make too much noise or cause problems.  They are on city property (sidewalk/grass at curb).  Nothing the Anthony's can do about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 06, 2008, 08:52:40 PM
what up with the bright a$$ light, for real?? that is a bit much....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 08:52:51 PM
Not sure how supportive they are, but the first two signs they placed said Baby Killer on them.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 08:52:57 PM
forget the stalkere cam, i want a live stream.
mytime  are you going to share that link...     ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 06, 2008, 08:55:48 PM
I think Ted Nugent just walked in front of stalker cam...LOLOLOL ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 08:59:49 PM
Either Nugent or Geraldo  :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 08:59:58 PM
forget the stalkere cam, i want a live stream.
mytime  are you going to share that link...     ?

SorryOldfart -I said I would like one!  Local 6 news is reporting a life-sized Caylee doll with signs "Baby Killer" waving around.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 09:01:48 PM
Beaver shot!!

Lady in the lawn chair isn't too ladylike  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 06, 2008, 09:02:02 PM
forget the stalkere cam, i want a live stream.
mytime  are you going to share that link...     ?

SorryOldfart -I said I would like one!  Local 6 news is reporting a life-sized Caylee doll with signs "Baby Killer" waving around.

Sorry mytime  I miss read the post     Sorry
(http://dreamsrightnow.com/bannana.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 06, 2008, 09:02:35 PM
Does anyone know if the searchers have found anything else yet?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 06, 2008, 09:03:06 PM
Beaver shot!!

Lady in the lawn chair isn't too ladylike  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Yeah Sled..I think it winked at me!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 09:04:36 PM
forget the stalkere cam, i want a live stream.
mytime  are you going to share that link...     ?

SorryOldfart -I said I would like one!  Local 6 news is reporting a life-sized Caylee doll with signs "Baby Killer" waving around.

No problem............I love my banannas with chocoloate syrup.

Sorry mytime  I miss read the post     Sorry
(http://dreamsrightnow.com/bannana.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 09:04:49 PM
Beaver shot!!

Lady in the lawn chair isn't too ladylike  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Yeah Sled..I think it winked at me!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Oh Gross,     ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 09:05:07 PM
Beaver shot!!

Lady in the lawn chair isn't too ladylike  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Yeah Sled..I think it winked at me!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 09:06:49 PM
Does anyone know if the searchers have found anything else yet?

Hi mrsrocko - I haven't heard.  If something is found LE gets called and they check it out.  If it's actual evidence we probably wouldn't hear about it right away anyway.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 06, 2008, 09:07:09 PM
I know people disagree, but I think bringing toddlers to this sort of protest is uncalled for not to mention how late it is! Its not a parade and I'm sure they are not talking about knitting classes. Do these little ones really need to hear baby killer talk?
grrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Kristen1977 on September 06, 2008, 09:07:44 PM
So it was a gun in the trunk? Not chloroform or a wheel chock?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

How in the world did LE know that George still had a gun? Maybe they finally just got around to doing the gun checks for the family.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 06, 2008, 09:09:14 PM
I know people disagree, but I think bringing toddlers to this sort of protest is uncalled for not to mention how late it is! Its not a parade and I'm sure they are not talking about knitting classes. Do these little ones really need to hear baby killer talk?
grrrrrrrrrrrrr

I totally agree and said yesterday they are just as bad as the Anthonys submitting the kids to the that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2008, 09:09:44 PM
Please can someone repost stupido stalker cam?
Karma   http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Thank you OF. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
Beaver shot!!

Lady in the lawn chair isn't too ladylike  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Yeah Sled..I think it winked at me!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Oh Gross,     ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

When did they allow Casey outside???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 06, 2008, 09:10:27 PM
Beaver shot!!

Lady in the lawn chair isn't too ladylike  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Yeah Sled..I think it winked at me!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :

Hey if it starts whistling you might want to run


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 06, 2008, 09:12:48 PM
I know people disagree, but I think bringing toddlers to this sort of protest is uncalled for not to mention how late it is! Its not a parade and I'm sure they are not talking about knitting classes. Do these little ones really need to hear baby killer talk?
grrrrrrrrrrrrr

I totally agree and said yesterday they are just as bad as the Anthonys submitting the kids to the that.

Oh, the one yesterday holding the sign!! omg yeah thats a picture that I want to see of me when I grow up!  :smt119


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 09:13:36 PM
Beaver shot!!

Lady in the lawn chair isn't too ladylike  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Yeah Sled..I think it winked at me!!! ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: :

HA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2008, 09:14:01 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html
Thank you Lisa,stalker cam stuck for sure now lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 09:14:06 PM
Posted on Topix


Dave wrote:
    Record 1200 people looking for Caylee! Even sore, I'm going back out tomorrow. There really does need to be a skeletal brochure or something that would help to identify all the bones out there. 1800 volunteers tomorrow? Lets find Caylee and do right by her, no matter that her family hasn't. ;-)



If true 1200 is awesome, and they expect 1800 tomorrow!!!



Good job there, Cindy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 06, 2008, 09:14:21 PM

Here is interesting post that was sent to me:Originally posted by sadmom:
Hi first let me say as a mother who lost a 21 year old daughter 3 years ago, This whole case makes me sick to my stomach. She was not missing but one think I wanted was to be sure her final resting place was a place that is beautiful and special. I can also assure you she was there to welcome Caylee into heaven.

Now for the first year I was unable to get out of bed, I grieve everyday and will the rest of my life, so the actions and behavior of this mother shows me she is not only a very sick woman but very evil.

I also know a very high ranking retired LE officer from FLA who told me several things he was told:

Naturally they have more info. then they are releasing. They are building a very strong case and Casey will be arrest for murder.

1) Cindy Anthony lied from the beginning to give credit to Casey's story. She never heard Casey mention Zenda Gonzales before. She heard her speak of a nanny but no name. The Investigator are thinking Casey either overheard Zenda on the phone making an appt. to go see an apartment. Or found something with the information on it. They have spoken to this woman she has no idea who Casey or Caylee are. Also explains why a woman showed up at complex to see an apartment. The apartment complex
confirmed a hispanic woman did indeed look at an aprt.

2)There are records on any phone to or from any nanny/babysitter

3)It is true that DNA from the hair is Caylee's and eveidence does show that the father is a male related by blood to Casey, however it has no relevence in the case, because they do not feel he is at all involved in Caylee's disappearence.

4) an unamed person has told LE that CIndy had chloroform in a cabinet at her home. Did she
use it to clean the car after smelling dead body or was it used to kill Caylee they have not said. Could that have been hidden in George's car? Could be.

No one else is supected of helping Casey hid or kill her daughter.

Cindy Anthony was advised by a thearopist to press charges against Casey for all the theft, and to seek custody of Caylee. That is what the fight the neighbors heard, Cindy informed Casey of her intentions.



See I haven't seen Casey grieving for the loss of her child at all... my mom died of cancer when i was 30...we were like best friends...and it took me a year to where I could actually say i came out of a fog. All I wanted to do was stay in bed, I cried all the time, lost a lot of weight etc. So I don't know how Casey can get up every day and act like nothing happened ... I know if I lost my son, they'd have to sedate me. Yea, she's evil.

Ooops, I got locked out of the #16 thread...too slow  ::MonkeyTongue::

Don't slam me, but....while this all sounds vesible and we've discussed most of it, I just don't see LE giving information to a "retired" officer, no matter how high his rank.

My dad is a retired police chief from up in New England.  He knows everything that is still going on.  Police (no offense) are very "talkative."

My son plays football with a kid whose father is on the OSCO.  He hasn't been there the last 2 weeks probably because we all pump him for info.


My husband's 40 year old attorney nephew informed me last week when the Caylee topic was brought up in conversation that he has an acquaintance within the LE in Orlando.

Today I remembered his words and ... I contacted him and ... in my sweetest voice (I can be sweet) ... asked him to find out why George and Cindy Anthony were not disqualified as securers (?) of the bond since ... as even he agreed ... possession of a weapon implies the conditions agree to by the Anthonys were breached.

Well ... husband's nephew refused my request ... citing something about ethics.

Can you believe it!  I changed this guy's diapers ... I walked the floor when he cried and cried for his Mommy and Daddy when he was left in our care for a few days.  I played with playdoh with him.  I went to his swim competitions sitting in humid enviroments.  I went to his hockeys games where I watch kids I didn't know play while he sat on the bench most of the time.  I credit when he gave his testimony just prior to baptism.  I cried again at his high school graduation and three university graduations.  I cried again at his wedding and ... cried again when I held his precious son and daughter shortly after each of their births ... AND HE REFUSED MY REQUEST!

Husband's nephew is very fortunate that love knows no bounds.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 06, 2008, 09:14:49 PM
HEY LOOK!!! A CINDY SMILEY!!!! :smt021 :smt021 :smt021


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2008, 09:15:04 PM
Please can someone repost stupido stalker cam?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

RED BOX
LOL...redbox stupido stalker cam ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Shell on September 06, 2008, 09:16:01 PM
Beaver shot!!

Lady in the lawn chair isn't too ladylike  ::MonkeyLaugh::

omg, I know....I wanted to scream at her to sit like a lady


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Altruist on September 06, 2008, 09:16:37 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 09:17:55 PM
HEY LOOK!!! A CINDY SMILEY!!!! :smt021 :smt021 :smt021
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 06, 2008, 09:18:55 PM

Here is interesting post that was sent to me:Originally posted by sadmom:
Hi first let me say as a mother who lost a 21 year old daughter 3 years ago, This whole case makes me sick to my stomach. She was not missing but one think I wanted was to be sure her final resting place was a place that is beautiful and special. I can also assure you she was there to welcome Caylee into heaven.

Now for the first year I was unable to get out of bed, I grieve everyday and will the rest of my life, so the actions and behavior of this mother shows me she is not only a very sick woman but very evil.

I also know a very high ranking retired LE officer from FLA who told me several things he was told:

Naturally they have more info. then they are releasing. They are building a very strong case and Casey will be arrest for murder.

1) Cindy Anthony lied from the beginning to give credit to Casey's story. She never heard Casey mention Zenda Gonzales before. She heard her speak of a nanny but no name. The Investigator are thinking Casey either overheard Zenda on the phone making an appt. to go see an apartment. Or found something with the information on it. They have spoken to this woman she has no idea who Casey or Caylee are. Also explains why a woman showed up at complex to see an apartment. The apartment complex
confirmed a hispanic woman did indeed look at an aprt.

2)There are records on any phone to or from any nanny/babysitter

3)It is true that DNA from the hair is Caylee's and eveidence does show that the father is a male related by blood to Casey, however it has no relevence in the case, because they do not feel he is at all involved in Caylee's disappearence.

4) an unamed person has told LE that CIndy had chloroform in a cabinet at her home. Did she
use it to clean the car after smelling dead body or was it used to kill Caylee they have not said. Could that have been hidden in George's car? Could be.

No one else is supected of helping Casey hid or kill her daughter.

Cindy Anthony was advised by a thearopist to press charges against Casey for all the theft, and to seek custody of Caylee. That is what the fight the neighbors heard, Cindy informed Casey of her intentions.



See I haven't seen Casey grieving for the loss of her child at all... my mom died of cancer when i was 30...we were like best friends...and it took me a year to where I could actually say i came out of a fog. All I wanted to do was stay in bed, I cried all the time, lost a lot of weight etc. So I don't know how Casey can get up every day and act like nothing happened ... I know if I lost my son, they'd have to sedate me. Yea, she's evil.

Ooops, I got locked out of the #16 thread...too slow  ::MonkeyTongue::

Don't slam me, but....while this all sounds vesible and we've discussed most of it, I just don't see LE giving information to a "retired" officer, no matter how high his rank.

My dad is a retired police chief from up in New England.  He knows everything that is still going on.  Police (no offense) are very "talkative."

My son plays football with a kid whose father is on the OSCO.  He hasn't been there the last 2 weeks probably because we all pump him for info.


My husband's 40 year old attorney nephew informed me last week when the Caylee topic was brought up in conversation that he has an acquaintance within the LE in Orlando.

Today I remembered his words and ... I contacted him and ... in my sweetest voice (I can be sweet) ... asked him to find out why George and Cindy Anthony were not disqualified as securers (?) of the bond since ... as even he agreed ... possession of a weapon implies the conditions agree to by the Anthonys were breached.

Well ... husband's nephew refused my request ... citing something about ethics.

Can you believe it!  I changed this guy's diapers ... I walked the floor when he cried and cried for his Mommy and Daddy when he was left in our care for a few days.  I played with playdoh with him.  I went to his swim competitions sitting in humid enviroments.  I went to his hockeys games where I watch kids I didn't know play while he sat on the bench most of the time.  I credit when he gave his testimony just prior to baptism.  I cried again at his high school graduation and three university graduations.  I cried again at his wedding and ... cried again when I held his precious son and daughter shortly after each of their births ... AND HE REFUSED MY REQUEST!

Husband's nephew is very fortunate that love knows no bounds.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet



LOL when then I guess he learned right by you!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Shell on September 06, 2008, 09:19:14 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?

George, being in law inforcement, certainly knew better than to have a concealed weapon on the property.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 09:19:19 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?


Sure would put a quick end to this "Neverending Story".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 06, 2008, 09:20:44 PM
BELOW THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT OF THE GLOBE ARTICLE.

THERE IS A PART TWO WHICH I AM SCANNING NOW.

CLICK ON THE LITTLE PAPER CLIP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Kristen1977 on September 06, 2008, 09:21:01 PM
Posted on Topix


Dave wrote:
    Record 1200 people looking for Caylee! Even sore, I'm going back out tomorrow. There really does need to be a skeletal brochure or something that would help to identify all the bones out there. 1800 volunteers tomorrow? Lets find Caylee and do right by her, no matter that her family hasn't. ;-)



If true 1200 is awesome, and they expect 1800 tomorrow!!!

Hey there. I am so glad to hear that. I bet Tim and his team now have renewed hope YAY!!!! I have been away for awhile. Any word on what they found today?



Good job there, Cindy. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Kristen1977 on September 06, 2008, 09:22:01 PM
Posted on Topix


Dave wrote:
    Record 1200 people looking for Caylee! Even sore, I'm going back out tomorrow. There really does need to be a skeletal brochure or something that would help to identify all the bones out there. 1800 volunteers tomorrow? Lets find Caylee and do right by her, no matter that her family hasn't. ;-)



If true 1200 is awesome, and they expect 1800 tomorrow!!!

Hey there. I am so glad to hear that. I bet Tim and his team now have renewed hope YAY!!!! I have been away for awhile. Any word on what they found today?



Good job there, Cindy. 

Crap. where did my words go??? LOL. I replied to the quote but my post didn't show up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Shell on September 06, 2008, 09:23:48 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?


Sure would put a quick end to this "Neverending Story".

They can blow themselves up for all I care, but I want them to first tell where sweet baby Caylee is.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Destiny on September 06, 2008, 09:24:50 PM
I'm going to pull a Robots here....my job here is done....I've got a lot to deal with on the Natalee thread...new stuff in the works....will check back here too....this case is solved....Destiny


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flossy on September 06, 2008, 09:26:31 PM
Looks like someone was bored  ::MonkeyHaHa::


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/cam090608i.jpg)

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

LMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: GabbyG on September 06, 2008, 09:27:12 PM
WE HAVE A TORNADO WATCH - WARNING HERE ,SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I WILL HAVE POWER.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/rad_nat_640x480_12.jpg)


Please stay safe Blonde!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 09:29:43 PM
(http://www.local6.com/2008/0907/17410815.jpg)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An angry crowd of people waving life-sized "Caylee dolls" and "baby-killer" signs remained outside of Casey Anthony's home a day after she was released from jail.

Protesters who appeared after Casey Anthony returned to her Orange County home said they refuse to leave while the woman's daughter, Caylee, 3, remains missing. A life-sized baby doll held by one of the men in the crowd had a sign that read, "Hi, I'm Caylee. Have you seen my mommy?" "Tell the truth," Greg May said as he held the doll. "Tell the truth. The truth will set you free. I don't see how those people sleep at night."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 09:31:03 PM
BELOW THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT OF THE GLOBE ARTICLE.

THERE IS A PART TWO WHICH I AM SCANNING NOW.

CLICK ON THE LITTLE PAPER CLIP


Another person profiting from the disappearance of a child.
Scumbag,  I hope Cindy hammers him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 06, 2008, 09:32:27 PM
GLOBE ARTICLE 9.15.08 PART II

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Globe9.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Anninflorida on September 06, 2008, 09:37:08 PM
If I were George, I'd be sleeping with that gun under my pillow. If Casey is cold enough to kill her own child, what makes them think she would even think twice about killing Geroge and Cindy???  It's documented that her relationship with good ole mom and day have been rocky...to say the least. I would be terrified to close my eyes and sleep with her in the same house!!! Do you think they sleep in shifts?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blue Moon on September 06, 2008, 09:39:01 PM
You know, someone has to sleep with Casey at night-either Cindy or George.  If she escapes then they lose all their bond money.  Would you want to close your eyes at night knowing she is right beside you?  Not me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 09:42:06 PM
BELOW THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT OF THE GLOBE ARTICLE.

THERE IS A PART TWO WHICH I AM SCANNING NOW.

CLICK ON THE LITTLE PAPER CLIP


Another person profiting from the disappearance of a child.
Scumbag,  I hope Cindy hammers him.

You must have not have seen 20/20 last night because there was 100x more exploiting of Caylee done on that show than this dude did in the Globe. As a matter of a fact IMO he really didn't reveal to much. Yeah there are like two photos of Caylee on there but basically the article consisted mostly about his relationship with Caylee. I don't think it was that bad to be honest. Like I said her own family has done more of that. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Riley on September 06, 2008, 09:43:18 PM
BELOW THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT OF THE GLOBE ARTICLE.


Thanks San!!  Funny, how it is always exclusive, huh.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 06, 2008, 09:43:20 PM
If I were George, I'd be sleeping with that gun under my pillow. If Casey is cold enough to kill her own child, what makes them think she would even think twice about killing Geroge and Cindy???  It's documented that her relationship with good ole mom and day have been rocky...to say the least. I would be terrified to close my eyes and sleep with her in the same house!!! Do you think they sleep in shifts?


And she had told her friend Amy that her parents were signing over the house to her...hmmm....sounds like her parents were next to go.  She would not have come home on bail to my house.  No way!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 09:43:38 PM
I meant the article consisted of his relationship with CASEY not Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: snoopy on September 06, 2008, 09:44:23 PM
Thank you San    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 09:44:55 PM
If I were George, I'd be sleeping with that gun under my pillow. If Casey is cold enough to kill her own child, what makes them think she would even think twice about killing Geroge and Cindy???  It's documented that her relationship with good ole mom and day have been rocky...to say the least. I would be terrified to close my eyes and sleep with her in the same house!!! Do you think they sleep in shifts?

Exactly
The way she was telling Amy that Cindy and George were splitting and Cindy was going to sign the house over to her. Make me believe Casey's long range plans included making Cindy & George disappear.  Chloroform cocktails for mummy & daddy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Brandi on September 06, 2008, 09:45:35 PM
I just woke up from a two-hour nap and have not caught up in reading what was posted here while I napped, so if this has been mentioned, please excuse me.

"Geraldo at Large" tonight on FOX is going to talk about:
• Out of Jail...Again: Casey Anthony, mother of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony, was released from jail on Friday. What's next in the search for the missing toddler?

He is scheduled to do some Palin story as well, probably before the Anthony story.

Again, sorry if this is old news.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 09:46:51 PM
BELOW THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT OF THE GLOBE ARTICLE.

THERE IS A PART TWO WHICH I AM SCANNING NOW.

CLICK ON THE LITTLE PAPER CLIP


I was off playing with Image Ready...this is great SAN - Ricardo!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 09:48:26 PM
Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 09:49:30 PM
Ok, I said I was mad, but you didn't have to lock the thread on me.  ::MonkeyWink::  I'm dragging this over here, in case someone pops in that can help me.  This money thing makes me sick when it is Caylee that should be the focus.

So repeat:
That does it!  I am totally livid over this money stuff.  In a lot of counties, they have public records on line that you can review - property deeds, site plans, divorces, TRUSTS.  Does anyone know off hand if Orlando has theirs anywhere?  Since donations go to Ambulance Chasers & Sons and then the bank has a designated fund, they would have the detail as well, right?  I want to know if the tin can money and all these donations to the family are being deposited and I want to know what the expenditures are.  If these nuts are using the funds for anything other than finding Caylee (and I think the family can stop checking the dining room and start looking outside), people should know so the funds can go to the people that are looking rather than the Anthony quality of life fund.  Anyone have any ideas what or where Florida would have this stuff?  I'm on a mission now...   ::MonkeyCool::

Here is the trust fund info:

A trust fund has been established to assist in the efforts in finding Caylee.  You may send check, money order, or cash to the address below:
 
Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
c/o Bichler & Kelley, P.A.
807 West Morse Boulevard, Suite 201
Winter Park, Florida 32789

Phone 407-599-3777

The first thing to do is contact Bichler & Kelley, P.A.
and tell them you would like to see an accounting of the
donations so far, before you donate, so you can make sure
your monies would be used for legitimate purposes.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 09:49:37 PM
Ok, so who is this Brad or Brandon that's a friend of Lee's, that is supposedly the father of Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WhiskeyGirl on September 06, 2008, 09:49:47 PM
If I were George, I'd be sleeping with that gun under my pillow. If Casey is cold enough to kill her own child, what makes them think she would even think twice about killing Geroge and Cindy???  It's documented that her relationship with good ole mom and day have been rocky...to say the least. I would be terrified to close my eyes and sleep with her in the same house!!! Do you think they sleep in shifts?

I wonder if she bought her parents tickets to Aruba.  She could go with something like...my parents retired to Aruba and disappeared.  Who would doubt her story?


And she had told her friend Amy that her parents were signing over the house to her...hmmm....sounds like her parents were next to go.  She would not have come home on bail to my house.  No way!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 09:52:37 PM
BELOW THERE IS AN ATTACHMENT OF THE GLOBE ARTICLE.

THERE IS A PART TWO WHICH I AM SCANNING NOW.

CLICK ON THE LITTLE PAPER CLIP


Another person profiting from the disappearance of a child.
Scumbag,  I hope Cindy hammers him.

You must have not have seen 20/20 last night because there was 100x more exploiting of Caylee done on that show than this dude did in the Globe. As a matter of a fact IMO he really didn't reveal to much. Yeah there are like two photos of Caylee on there but basically the article consisted mostly about his relationship with Caylee. I don't think it was that bad to be honest. Like I said her own family has done more of that. JMO

No I saw 20/20.  We all know the Anthonys are jerks and why they need the $$.
Bail, Lawyers, no work etc, no that is any excuse.  Plus I don't think it has been confirmed how they were paid.  But the Globe definitely pays for an interview and he is getting paid to talk about Casey.  IMO - I think its in bad taste.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WhiskeyGirl on September 06, 2008, 09:53:44 PM
Sorry, I messed up my previous post.  I should flow like this -

If I were George, I'd be sleeping with that gun under my pillow. If Casey is cold enough to kill her own child, what makes them think she would even think twice about killing Geroge and Cindy???  It's documented that her relationship with good ole mom and day have been rocky...to say the least. I would be terrified to close my eyes and sleep with her in the same house!!! Do you think they sleep in shifts?

And she had told her friend Amy that her parents were signing over the house to her...hmmm....sounds like her parents were next to go.  She would not have come home on bail to my house.  No way!
I wonder if she bought her parents tickets to Aruba.  She could go with something like...my parents retired to Aruba and disappeared.  Who would doubt her story?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 09:54:39 PM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Riley on September 06, 2008, 09:55:06 PM
Here is the trust fund info:
A trust fund has been established to assist in the efforts in finding Caylee.  You may send check, money order, or cash to the address below:
Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony
c/o Bichler & Kelley, P.A.
807 West Morse Boulevard, Suite 201
Winter Park, Florida 32789
Phone 407-599-3777

The first thing to do is contact Bichler & Kelley, P.A.
and tell them you would like to see an accounting of the
donations so far, before you donate, so you can make sure
your monies would be used for legitimate purposes.
Oh you are an Angel!  Thanks wonderful Pink Angel.  I'll be calling them on Monday for sure.  I did find an online records but they are down until the 8th. Think I'll call the bank too while I am making people miserable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 09:57:33 PM
Time for a little humor


Bank robbery
 
A man with a gun went into a bank and demanded their money. Once he was given the money, he turned to a customer and asked, 'Did you see me rob this bank?'
 
The man replied, 'Yes sir, I did.'
 
The robber then shot him in the temple, killing him instantly.
 
He then turned to a couple standing next to him and asked the man, 'Did you see me rob this bank?'



 
The man replied, 'No sir, I didn't, but my wife did'.........     ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 06, 2008, 09:58:15 PM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.


I would bet LE is linked up to the computers in the house and they can see everything that been done on them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Brandi on September 06, 2008, 09:58:26 PM
tap tap tap

This thing on?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Anninflorida on September 06, 2008, 09:59:15 PM
Oh yes.....I'm sure that LE is watching every keystroke!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Anninflorida on September 06, 2008, 10:00:24 PM
Running off to see what Geraldo has to say tonight! I hope he's doing his usual hard hitting journalism on this one!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 10:01:24 PM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.


I would bet LE is linked up to the computers in the house and they can see everything that been done on them.

If the account was made before she was arrested(and I am def thinking it was) then they might not know about it. And the thing about facebook is you cannot see the profile unless you added as a friend. I mean she has put things on Myspace before. I just find that really odd that there is a Caylee profile and the only friend in the friends list(you can view the friends list without having to be friends) is Casey.

I am sure they have looked into everything though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 10:01:25 PM
I nominate JP Chatt as the daddy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 10:01:27 PM
I'm going to pull a Robots here....my job here is done....I've got a lot to deal with on the Natalee thread...new stuff in the works....will check back here too....this case is solved....Destiny

Destiny??? Don't pull a Robots..he never came back!  Thanks for all you've done here and for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 06, 2008, 10:05:57 PM
Geraldo: Casey will not be charged for violating the terms of her release even though police retrieved a handgum from George's car. They acted on a tip to know it was there.

Now their going through the Zenaida/Samantha garbage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 06, 2008, 10:06:54 PM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.


I would bet LE is linked up to the computers in the house and they can see everything that been done on them.

If the account was made before she was arrested(and I am def thinking it was) then they might not know about it. And the thing about facebook is you cannot see the profile unless you added as a friend. I mean she has put things on Myspace before. I just find that really odd that there is a Caylee profile and the only friend in the friends list(you can view the friends list without having to be friends) is Casey.

I am sure they have looked into everything though.

Her computer was taken by LE after she arrested.  The forensic computer analysists have gone over that computer with a fine toothed comb.  Even if she deleted stuff it will still be on the hard drive. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 10:07:21 PM
I think I am going crazy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Walter819 on September 06, 2008, 10:07:23 PM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.
not familar with facebook what does it me standard account i cant see anything ittell me to logg in  even on caysee's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Kristen1977 on September 06, 2008, 10:07:27 PM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.


I would bet LE is linked up to the computers in the house and they can see everything that been done on them.

Why in the heck would a 3 year old need a facebook account. Talk about exploiting. I don't even put pics of my kids on my Myspace. Too many pedophiles lurking around.

If the account was made before she was arrested(and I am def thinking it was) then they might not know about it. And the thing about facebook is you cannot see the profile unless you added as a friend. I mean she has put things on Myspace before. I just find that really odd that there is a Caylee profile and the only friend in the friends list(you can view the friends list without having to be friends) is Casey.

I am sure they have looked into everything though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 10:08:19 PM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

September 06, 2008
Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Day 2 Update 3
All totaled, nearly 1,200 people showed up today to assist in the search for Caylee Anthony. That is a pretty amazing turnout, compared to the low numbers we were seeing last week.

One particular volunteer, a lady who is now answering phones in the command post, made my day when she said that this blog was the reason she came out to volunteer. I thought that was really great and I found it very touching.

In my last post, I informed you about the radio interview I was doing today with Shawn Wasson, host of "The News Junkie" on 1290 WJNO. In case you did not catch it, I'll be posting a copy of it as soon as the station uploads it to their Web site. Shawn's a great guy and I always enjoy going on his show.

After the interview, I drove out to the Anthony's house. It is maybe five miles from the EquuSearch command post, so whenever I am in route I try to swing by there to see if anything is happening. There was supposed to be a rally there at 3:00 p.m. but when I arrived there, at about 3:15 p.m., nothing was happening.

I uploaded two new videos of neighbors discussing the case in front of the Anthony house. You can watch them here.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 10:08:46 PM
Destiny,

Don't go we :smt062 you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Altruist on September 06, 2008, 10:09:01 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?


Sure would put a quick end to this "Neverending Story".

They can blow themselves up for all I care, but I want them to first tell where sweet baby Caylee is.

Thank you for your replies.  There is something wrong here, it is either a response based on emotion of yes, let them take themselves out, outright stupidity or corruption based on a "courtesy" afforded due to George Anthony's formerly working in LE.  None of those reasons rise to the standards that I expect of those professions.  Hope to read that there is some rationality that I do not possess knowledge of as I find this very upsetting.

If laws, regulations & requirements aren't enforced then WRITE THEM OFF.  The shouldn't be in place to utilize on some biased pretense, otherwise it is neglect & I wanted to believe that Orlando was as good as Modesto, CA but now I find myself really questioning if they even come close.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 10:09:14 PM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.


I would bet LE is linked up to the computers in the house and they can see everything that been done on them.

If the account was made before she was arrested(and I am def thinking it was) then they might not know about it. And the thing about facebook is you cannot see the profile unless you added as a friend. I mean she has put things on Myspace before. I just find that really odd that there is a Caylee profile and the only friend in the friends list(you can view the friends list without having to be friends) is Casey.

I am sure they have looked into everything though.

Her computer was taken by LE after she arrested.  The forensic computer analysists have gone over that computer with a fine toothed comb.  Even if she deleted stuff it will still be on the hard drive. 

Oh that is true. You are righ they probably would have found it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 06, 2008, 10:10:37 PM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.


I would bet LE is linked up to the computers in the house and they can see everything that been done on them.

If the account was made before she was arrested(and I am def thinking it was) then they might not know about it. And the thing about facebook is you cannot see the profile unless you added as a friend. I mean she has put things on Myspace before. I just find that really odd that there is a Caylee profile and the only friend in the friends list(you can view the friends list without having to be friends) is Casey.

I am sure they have looked into everything though.

Why in the heck would a 3 year old need a facebook account. Talk about exploiting. I don't even put pics of my kids on my Myspace. Too many pedophiles lurking around.

My thoughts exactly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 06, 2008, 10:11:11 PM
Ooops

Destiny,

Should be

Don't go we  :smt057 you.



Time to get a new eyeglass prescription!

Darn it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 06, 2008, 10:14:13 PM
Let the family all kill each other, but before they do, just tell us where they buried caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Kristen1977 on September 06, 2008, 10:14:24 PM
I forgot that Casey didn't care about exploiting Caylee since she exposed her to so many different men in her short life. In and out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 06, 2008, 10:19:16 PM
Oh my word!!! I am re watching the video of the b day party where Caylee licks the frosting off caceys face. At first I thought how sweet it was. Now as I am observing it I notice someone takes Caylees hand with frosting on it and rubs it Caseys face....no big deal....Then watch how Casey takes Caylees hand and rubs it in HER face!!!! as if shes upset at her.....think about would you take your 2yo daughters hand with frosting and rub it on her face???? Maybe I'm obssessing too much but it creeped me out when I watched it again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 10:19:55 PM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 06, 2008, 10:20:57 PM
I know people disagree, but I think bringing toddlers to this sort of protest is uncalled for not to mention how late it is! Its not a parade and I'm sure they are not talking about knitting classes. Do these little ones really need to hear baby killer talk?
grrrrrrrrrrrrr

I totally agree and said yesterday they are just as bad as the Anthonys submitting the kids to the that.

IIRC.........that is one of the neighbor's kids. I guess they figure if they have to put up with it, they might as well participate. LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 10:23:50 PM
I know people disagree, but I think bringing toddlers to this sort of protest is uncalled for not to mention how late it is! Its not a parade and I'm sure they are not talking about knitting classes. Do these little ones really need to hear baby killer talk?
grrrrrrrrrrrrr

I totally agree and said yesterday they are just as bad as the Anthonys submitting the kids to the that.

IIRC.........that is one of the neighbor's kids. I guess they figure if they have to put up with it, they might as well participate. LOL

That is really not a safe environment for children.  It's a volatile situation...Cindy ranting with a hammer, people fighting in the street, then we find out George had a gun in his car.  Children do not belong in the midst of activity like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 10:24:40 PM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.

Excellent!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 06, 2008, 10:26:11 PM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.

That's amazing how they can determine that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 10:26:25 PM
Thank you San!

I hope you don't mind but I loaded it in an online pdf viewer and posted RM's Globe article over at WS. I gave you kudos for it. :)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: can on September 06, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.
Don't get Geraldo - thank you for that info.  Hair samples could be very damning!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 06, 2008, 10:27:57 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?

I don't believe with Casey out of bond, there can even be a weapon on the premises. I know in this state that is one of the conditions of bond.

No one in that family is stable enough mentally to be allowed a gun. That is a recipe for tragedy for sure !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 10:30:07 PM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.

That's amazing how they can determine that.

It's amazing all the crap they can determine nowadays. The new test and technologies. I am in awe of it all.

It's getting harder and harder to "get away with murder."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 10:30:40 PM
I know we're all irked at Brian over that post about Tim profitting off the $25 membership fee, etc..  but I was looking at his site just now, and found an interesting comment:

"I just read a blog that there’s a place called Sand Lake in Orlando, and Sand Lake’s advertises as “The Beautiful Life at Sand Lake.”  Casey’s tattoo says “Bella Vita” which means beautiful life, and I read that Sand Lake is close to where her car was abandoned.  Their logo also shows a bunch of flowers around a lake, and someone said Casey’s tattoo has flowers too (not sure if this is true).  Just wanted to pass this along… maybe there’s something to Sand Lake…

Thanks for all you and your team is doing!

Jill"

*Remember that crazy psychic from (was it Detroit? I forget).. she said she saw sand dunes.  Hmm..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 06, 2008, 10:30:51 PM
Remember the case of the preachers wife, Blanche somebody that had poisoned him and several others with arsenic and they had his hair hair sample and could tell she had been poisoning him for months.  They could even tell the months he got more of the arsenic.  Its amazing me to me what they can do with forensics now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 06, 2008, 10:31:25 PM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.

Not  just the chloroform, but ANY drugs she had previously been given...........depending on the hair length they can get a full profile of all drugs used up to a year.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 10:32:42 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?

I don't believe with Casey out of bond, there can even be a weapon on the premises. I know in this state that is one of the conditions of bond.

No one in that family is stable enough mentally to be allowed a gun. That is a recipe for tragedy for sure !!

You do not even need a permit to own a gun in Florida!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: San on September 06, 2008, 10:33:06 PM
Thank you San!

I hope you don't mind but I loaded it in an online pdf viewer and posted RM's Globe article over at WS. I gave you kudos for it. :)


I don't mind at all.  It is for everyone to read.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 10:33:49 PM
I'm surprised that LE hasn't been there since Casey's release searching that place w/a fine tooth comb to make sure there is no more chloroform in the house .... it would be pretty convenient for Casey to douse a towel and put herself to sleep and take her secret to her grave .... it would sure beat the heck out of life in prison!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 10:34:51 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?

I don't believe with Casey out of bond, there can even be a weapon on the premises. I know in this state that is one of the conditions of bond.

No one in that family is stable enough mentally to be allowed a gun. That is a recipe for tragedy for sure !!

Unfortunately, there was a gun on the premises.  LE took it away last night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 10:35:25 PM
I know we're all irked at Brian over that post about Tim profitting off the $25 membership fee, etc..  but I was looking at his site just now, and found an interesting comment:

"I just read a blog that there’s a place called Sand Lake in Orlando, and Sand Lake’s advertises as “The Beautiful Life at Sand Lake.”  Casey’s tattoo says “Bella Vita” which means beautiful life, and I read that Sand Lake is close to where her car was abandoned.  Their logo also shows a bunch of flowers around a lake, and someone said Casey’s tattoo has flowers too (not sure if this is true).  Just wanted to pass this along… maybe there’s something to Sand Lake…

Thanks for all you and your team is doing!

Jill"

*Remember that crazy psychic from (was it Detroit? I forget).. she said she saw sand dunes.  Hmm..

Interesting. Someone should pass that along to Tim.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 10:36:35 PM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.

Not  just the chloroform, but ANY drugs she had previously been given...........depending on the hair length they can get a full profile of all drugs used up to a year.

I am sure that is probably one of the reasons why Casey doesn't want her found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 10:37:43 PM
I know we're all irked at Brian over that post about Tim profitting off the $25 membership fee, etc..  but I was looking at his site just now, and found an interesting comment:

"I just read a blog that there’s a place called Sand Lake in Orlando, and Sand Lake’s advertises as “The Beautiful Life at Sand Lake.”  Casey’s tattoo says “Bella Vita” which means beautiful life, and I read that Sand Lake is close to where her car was abandoned.  Their logo also shows a bunch of flowers around a lake, and someone said Casey’s tattoo has flowers too (not sure if this is true).  Just wanted to pass this along… maybe there’s something to Sand Lake…

Thanks for all you and your team is doing!

Jill"

*Remember that crazy psychic from (was it Detroit? I forget).. she said she saw sand dunes.  Hmm..

Interesting. Someone should pass that along to Tim.

It's my understanding that Tim is working where LE is thinking makes the most sense .... The more ground that is covered by whomever for whatever reason is a bonus ...  The more ground covered the better chance of finding Caylee


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 10:38:36 PM
http://www.sandlakecondos.com/

8927 Latrec Avenue
Orlando, FL 32819


I'm not sure of where that Amscot is located... anybody? I was just curious about the distance between the two.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 10:39:28 PM
I know we're all irked at Brian over that post about Tim profitting off the $25 membership fee, etc..  but I was looking at his site just now, and found an interesting comment:

"I just read a blog that there’s a place called Sand Lake in Orlando, and Sand Lake’s advertises as “The Beautiful Life at Sand Lake.”  Casey’s tattoo says “Bella Vita” which means beautiful life, and I read that Sand Lake is close to where her car was abandoned.  Their logo also shows a bunch of flowers around a lake, and someone said Casey’s tattoo has flowers too (not sure if this is true).  Just wanted to pass this along… maybe there’s something to Sand Lake…

Thanks for all you and your team is doing!

Jill"

*Remember that crazy psychic from (was it Detroit? I forget).. she said she saw sand dunes.  Hmm..

Personally I like to read all comments no matter where they are posted, you just never know when someone will anonymously post something important.

That said, in my opinion Brian is a fraud.  I've though he was a fraud ever since we caught him back dating a dream pertaining to the NH case.  I could care less what Brian says or does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 10:41:58 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 10:42:53 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 06, 2008, 10:43:23 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

I heard it too Invision, Where the heck he getting all this info ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 10:43:34 PM
what kind of flowers are in the tattoo Casey got?

I'm not much into psychics myself..  Call me a skeptic.. not that I think anybody else is a nut for believing in them.  "Seeing is believing", I suppose.  I do like reading the posts there.. some of them are very interesting.  I was really ticked though when that poster made the comment about the $25, and the fact that Brian didn't call them on it and correct them.  However, I do think it's great that Gale and her team have been out searching for Caylee.   Ya can't say the same about the Anthonys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 10:44:00 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

That's what I heard.  I imagine Cindy will bring the hammer down on Tim's head before she allows that though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 10:44:26 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

Would the Anthony's really let them? IF this is the case, I bet it's through a search warrant.  Has to be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 10:46:46 PM
Then they better get a camera on the backyard pronto as I'll bet there is lots of action going on there tonight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 10:46:47 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

Would the Anthony's really let them? IF this is the case, I bet it's through a search warrant.  Has to be.

I know LE already searched the backyard.  Wouldn't it be something if the family moved Caylee's body back there AFTER LE searched it?  After all, the best place to hide a body is a place that has already been searched.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Lynn32792 on September 06, 2008, 10:49:21 PM
I know we're all irked at Brian over that post about Tim profitting off the $25 membership fee, etc..  but I was looking at his site just now, and found an interesting comment:

"I just read a blog that there’s a place called Sand Lake in Orlando, and Sand Lake’s advertises as “The Beautiful Life at Sand Lake.”  Casey’s tattoo says “Bella Vita” which means beautiful life, and I read that Sand Lake is close to where her car was abandoned.  Their logo also shows a bunch of flowers around a lake, and someone said Casey’s tattoo has flowers too (not sure if this is true).  Just wanted to pass this along… maybe there’s something to Sand Lake…

Thanks for all you and your team is doing!

Jill"

*Remember that crazy psychic from (was it Detroit? I forget).. she said she saw sand dunes.  Hmm..

Interesting. Someone should pass that along to Tim.


It's not that close:

Driving directions to 8927 Latrec Ave, Orlando, FL 32819 (Condos)
19.2 mi – about 29 mins
   
2800 N Goldenrod Rd (Near Amscot)
Orlando, FL 32807
   
1.   Head south on N Goldenrod Rd/SR-551 S toward Mistletoe Ct      
2.8 mi
2.   Turn right onto the SR-408-TOLL W ramp to Orlando      
0.2 mi
3.   Merge onto East-West Expy/SR-408 W
Toll road
      
5.6 mi
4.   Take exit 10A to merge onto I-4 W toward Tampa      
8.3 mi
5.   Take exit 74A for Sand Lake Rd/SR-482 toward International Dr      
1.1 mi
6.   Turn right at W Sand Lake Rd      
495 ft
7.   Turn left at CR-439 S/Turkey Lake Rd      
1.1 mi
8.   Turn right at Palmacia Blvd      
272 ft
9.   Slight right at Latrec Ave      
469 ft
   
8927 Latrec Ave, Orlando, FL 32819


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nessagurl on September 06, 2008, 10:49:37 PM
Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something?





Does anyone have the link for Casey's facebook profile?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 10:50:29 PM
what kind of flowers are in the tattoo Casey got?

I'm not much into psychics myself..  Call me a skeptic.. not that I think anybody else is a nut for believing in them.  "Seeing is believing", I suppose.  I do like reading the posts there.. some of them are very interesting.  I was really ticked though when that poster made the comment about the $25, and the fact that Brian didn't call them on it and correct them.  However, I do think it's great that Gale and her team have been out searching for Caylee.   Ya can't say the same about the Anthonys.

I don't believe the details of Casey's tattoo were ever released (to my knowledge) ... I think there has been speculation, but no real confirmation ... 

I agree to a point that psychics have merit if used properly ... However I immediately lost respect for Gale (the psychic) and or that site the minute she interjected herself into this case UNINVITED .....

Like I have said before, I have respect for the woman that is out there beating the bushes as a human being, but have lost any belief in her psychic abilites when she announced to the world she had visions of where Caylee was ..... "professionals" do not act that way     JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 10:50:31 PM
Does anybody have a link or site where I can watch all of Cindy's testimony in the bond hearing.  I only saw some of it from Fox 35.  I can't believe she was chewing gum with a sleeveless shirt on in court.  Well, yes I can.  She defines crazy white trash!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 06, 2008, 10:50:46 PM
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/3foronetwo-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 10:52:37 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

Would the Anthony's really let them? IF this is the case, I bet it's through a search warrant.  Has to be.

I know LE already searched the backyard.  Wouldn't it be something if the family moved Caylee's body back there AFTER LE searched it?  After all, the best place to hide a body is a place that has already been searched.

MAYBE "they" have LP around to continue to put pressure on the Anthonys by making statements such as these on tv, knowing the Anthony's are prolly watching?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 10:52:55 PM
Rob Dick says Casey wanted him to look for Zenaida and her older sister Samantha.  Says Zenaida held her down and gave her a script to follow while Samantha led Caylee away and put her in a silver Ford Focus.  This allegedly happened in Jay Blanchard Park.

Whatever.

Would someone named Zenaida have a sister named Samantha?  That seems not quite right.

Oh....sorry.  This was on Geraldo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 10:53:00 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

Would the Anthony's really let them? IF this is the case, I bet it's through a search warrant.  Has to be.

Exactly, they will have a search warrant and the Anthony's won't have a choice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blue Moon on September 06, 2008, 10:53:07 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

Would the Anthony's really let them? IF this is the case, I bet it's through a search warrant.  Has to be.

I know LE already searched the backyard.  Wouldn't it be something if the family moved Caylee's body back there AFTER LE searched it?  After all, the best place to hide a body is a place that has already been searched.

As I said before they had better check out that freezer in the garage. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 10:53:54 PM
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/3foronetwo-1.jpg)

OMG Good one Deenie! LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 06, 2008, 10:56:28 PM
 After all, the best place to hide a body is a place that has already been searched.
----------------------
I have said from the beginning they need to take the dogs back to the Anthonys and search UNDER the house, the back yard, UNDER the shed, UNDER the pool, and any freezers etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 10:56:33 PM
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/3foronetwo-1.jpg)

OMG Good one Deenie! LOL

George looks good in stripes.  That will serve him well for the next 20 years.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 10:56:55 PM
Rob Dick says Casey wanted him to look for Zenaida and her older sister Samantha.  Says Zenaida held her down and gave her a script to follow while Samantha led Caylee away and put her in a silver Ford Focus.  This allegedly happened in Jay Blanchard Park.

Whatever.

Would someone named Zenaida have a sister named Samantha?  That seems not quite right.

Oh....sorry.  This was on Geraldo.

I thought the same thing.  Maybe when they held her down , they had to use chloroform to get her to let go of the tight grip she had on Caylee. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 10:57:01 PM
Rob Dick says Casey wanted him to look for Zenaida and her older sister Samantha.  Says Zenaida held her down and gave her a script to follow while Samantha led Caylee away and put her in a silver Ford Focus.  This allegedly happened in Jay Blanchard Park.

Whatever.

Would someone named Zenaida have a sister named Samantha?  That seems not quite right.

Oh....sorry.  This was on Geraldo.

LE interviewed this Zenaida person.. and supposedly, a Samantha Gonzalez really exists as well.  I wonder if the two are related, though?  (Gonzales is a very common name)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 06, 2008, 10:57:02 PM
Does anybody have a link or site where I can watch all of Cindy's testimony in the bond hearing.  I only saw some of it from Fox 35.  I can't believe she was chewing gum with a sleeveless shirt on in court.  Well, yes I can.  She defines crazy white trash!

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 10:57:13 PM
Rob Dick says Casey wanted him to look for Zenaida and her older sister Samantha.  Says Zenaida held her down and gave her a script to follow while Samantha led Caylee away and put her in a silver Ford Focus.  This allegedly happened in Jay Blanchard Park.

Whatever.

Would someone named Zenaida have a sister named Samantha?  That seems not quite right.

Oh....sorry.  This was on Geraldo.

That's exactally why Casey went back to Jay Blanchard Park .... cuz they would kidnap a child from her mother and be there the next time she came back!  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 06, 2008, 11:00:24 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

That's what I heard.  I imagine Cindy will bring the hammer down on Tim's head before she allows that though.

If that baby is there, they are going to refuse...........If they refuse, LE will have probable cause and get a search warrant.

I do believe they have moved her back around that house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Walter819 on September 06, 2008, 11:00:38 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

Would the Anthony's really let them? IF this is the case, I bet it's through a search warrant.  Has to be.

I know LE already searched the backyard.  Wouldn't it be something if the family moved Caylee's body back there AFTER LE searched it?  After all, the best place to hide a body is a place that has already been searched.
I thought they had done that already but my husband said they only moved a little of the pavers , so if anything LE will come in and tear it all up .. Tim no hes not LE hes searches fields a, swamps and woods , LE will bring there own people in for that I think LP just blows allott of smoke, some right some wrong JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 11:01:25 PM
Another interesting theory, posted over at Brian's... pertaining to Zenaida and Samantha:
http://briansprediction.com/gale/cayleeanthony3.htm


"Hello Brian,
 
While watching the Friday September 5th edition of Great Van Sustren Great interviewed Leonard Padilla and during this interview Padilla talked about the first time that Casey was bailed out of jail and returned to the Anthony's home.  Padilla claims that the only time he spoke with Casey in her home she told him the now familiar story about how she gave Caylee to a woman name Zenaida Gonzalez.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3073674&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html
 
During Padilla's conversation with Casey she claims that Zenaida Gonzalez and her older sister Samantha Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee and gave Casey a "script" that she was to read and act from for the next 30 days if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again.  Casey also gave Padilla a description of the car that Zenaida and her sister Samantha drove which was a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.
 
Here's what we know to be fact:
 
1.  The police actually located a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment for rent at the Sawgrass apartment complex on June 17th.
 
2.  There is indeed a Samantha Gonzalez that lives in Orlando, Florida about 23 miles from the Anthony's home.
 
3.  The woman the police interviewed named Zenaida Gonzalez who lives in Orlando, Florida does indeed own and drive a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.

 
 
Now I find all of these facts to be too much to be an coincidence.
 
A woman with the name Zenaida Gonzalez, the same make, model, color and year of the car, who looked at an apartment on June 17th at the Sawgrass apartment complex.
 
I think it's more than plausible that Casey's story in regards to what she told Padilla may be true.  How in the world could Casey come up with the woman's name, car make/model/year, and, tell people that Caylee was left with Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments and have all of this be pot luck???  There has to be some truth in this.
 
Also, I know that the police interviewed the woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment at the Sawgrass apartment complex but how do we know that this woman and possibly her sister are not really involved in this in some way?  The police may have made a mistake and eliminated her as an suspect and possibly have been duped and lied to by Zenaida Gonzalez.  It wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.
 
I feel that it is quite conceivable that Casey did indeed take Caylee to the Sawgrass apartments and met with a Zenaida Gonzalez who may have only been pretending to live there when in fact she did not only to take Caylee from Casey.  This could all be part of an elaborate child kidnapping ring whereby these people pose as babysitters and then take off with the child after they gain a person's trust over time.  It is possible that Casey had been taking Caylee to Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments for several months and Zenaida was pretending to live at the Sawgrass apartments.  All she would need to do is wait outside in front of one of the apartments and act like she lived there and when Casey would come by to drop off Caylee it's possible that Casey simply handed Caylee to Zenaida without actually going into one of the apartments assuming that Zenaida lived there and when Casey left, Zenaida would be able to take Caylee anywhere she wanted to.
 
If all of the above is true and Casey was told to act a certain way or had been given "instructions" by kidnappers if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again who among us would not do what the kidnappers told us to do in order to protect our child?  We live in a very screwed up world and there are alot of sick people out there and it's very possible that Caylee really has been abducted and that her abducters are playing a sick game with Casey.
 
Obviously this is just a theory and we simply do not have all of the pieces of the puzzle in order to fully comprehend the situation here.  I think that it's important for everyone to remember this because none of us really has all of the pieces of the puzzle so it's easy to make assumptions such as she's guilty or someone kidnapped Caylee etc...
 
The bottom line is that none of us knows why Casey is acting the way she is acting.  Is she acting this way to protect Caylee from a real threat or is she already dead?  Perhaps Casey did have something to do with Caylee's death whether it was an accident or intentional and if so the truth will ultimately reveal itself in time God willing."
 
--------------

I'm curious where this person got the info, though, that Samantha is a real person.. is this verified? I haven't seen anything about her (that I recall).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 11:01:54 PM
Does anybody have a link or site where I can watch all of Cindy's testimony in the bond hearing.  I only saw some of it from Fox 35.  I can't believe she was chewing gum with a sleeveless shirt on in court.  Well, yes I can.  She defines crazy white trash!

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US

Hey thanks, but I have seen this one.  It cuts off in the middle.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 11:02:35 PM
Garage door up on killercam.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 11:02:45 PM
Rob Dick says Casey wanted him to look for Zenaida and her older sister Samantha.  Says Zenaida held her down and gave her a script to follow while Samantha led Caylee away and put her in a silver Ford Focus.  This allegedly happened in Jay Blanchard Park.

Whatever.

Would someone named Zenaida have a sister named Samantha?  That seems not quite right.

Oh....sorry.  This was on Geraldo.

That's exactally why Casey went back to Jay Blanchard Park .... cuz they would kidnap a child from her mother and be there the next time she came back!  ::MonkeyConfused::

I wonder if Zenaida and Samantha know George is watching them and Cindy is planning a covert operation to take down the big bad sisters and Samantha's 3 kids. :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:03:01 PM
CA-RAP!  Black truck gone and I missed it ... UGH you look away for a few mins and you miss things! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 11:03:21 PM
Garage door up on killercam.

Dang while I was posting that the black truck left and I missed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:05:50 PM
Another interesting theory, posted over at Brian's... pertaining to Zenaida and Samantha:
http://briansprediction.com/gale/cayleeanthony3.htm


"Hello Brian,
 
While watching the Friday September 5th edition of Great Van Sustren Great interviewed Leonard Padilla and during this interview Padilla talked about the first time that Casey was bailed out of jail and returned to the Anthony's home.  Padilla claims that the only time he spoke with Casey in her home she told him the now familiar story about how she gave Caylee to a woman name Zenaida Gonzalez.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3073674&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html
 
During Padilla's conversation with Casey she claims that Zenaida Gonzalez and her older sister Samantha Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee and gave Casey a "script" that she was to read and act from for the next 30 days if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again.  Casey also gave Padilla a description of the car that Zenaida and her sister Samantha drove which was a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.
 
Here's what we know to be fact:
 
1.  The police actually located a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment for rent at the Sawgrass apartment complex on June 17th.
 
2.  There is indeed a Samantha Gonzalez that lives in Orlando, Florida about 23 miles from the Anthony's home.
 
3.  The woman the police interviewed named Zenaida Gonzalez who lives in Orlando, Florida does indeed own and drive a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.

 
 
Now I find all of these facts to be too much to be an coincidence.
 
A woman with the name Zenaida Gonzalez, the same make, model, color and year of the car, who looked at an apartment on June 17th at the Sawgrass apartment complex.
 
I think it's more than plausible that Casey's story in regards to what she told Padilla may be true.  How in the world could Casey come up with the woman's name, car make/model/year, and, tell people that Caylee was left with Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments and have all of this be pot luck???  There has to be some truth in this.
 
Also, I know that the police interviewed the woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment at the Sawgrass apartment complex but how do we know that this woman and possibly her sister are not really involved in this in some way?  The police may have made a mistake and eliminated her as an suspect and possibly have been duped and lied to by Zenaida Gonzalez.  It wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.
 
I feel that it is quite conceivable that Casey did indeed take Caylee to the Sawgrass apartments and met with a Zenaida Gonzalez who may have only been pretending to live there when in fact she did not only to take Caylee from Casey.  This could all be part of an elaborate child kidnapping ring whereby these people pose as babysitters and then take off with the child after they gain a person's trust over time.  It is possible that Casey had been taking Caylee to Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments for several months and Zenaida was pretending to live at the Sawgrass apartments.  All she would need to do is wait outside in front of one of the apartments and act like she lived there and when Casey would come by to drop off Caylee it's possible that Casey simply handed Caylee to Zenaida without actually going into one of the apartments assuming that Zenaida lived there and when Casey left, Zenaida would be able to take Caylee anywhere she wanted to.
 
If all of the above is true and Casey was told to act a certain way or had been given "instructions" by kidnappers if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again who among us would not do what the kidnappers told us to do in order to protect our child?  We live in a very screwed up world and there are alot of sick people out there and it's very possible that Caylee really has been abducted and that her abducters are playing a sick game with Casey.
 
Obviously this is just a theory and we simply do not have all of the pieces of the puzzle in order to fully comprehend the situation here.  I think that it's important for everyone to remember this because none of us really has all of the pieces of the puzzle so it's easy to make assumptions such as she's guilty or someone kidnapped Caylee etc...
 
The bottom line is that none of us knows why Casey is acting the way she is acting.  Is she acting this way to protect Caylee from a real threat or is she already dead?  Perhaps Casey did have something to do with Caylee's death whether it was an accident or intentional and if so the truth will ultimately reveal itself in time God willing."
 
--------------

I'm curious where this person got the info, though, that Samantha is a real person.. is this verified? I haven't seen anything about her (that I recall).


AND WHO'S DECOMPOSING BODY WAS IN THE BACK OF CASEY'S TRUNK????  I'll stick with the FBI reports ....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:07:00 PM
Another interesting theory, posted over at Brian's... pertaining to Zenaida and Samantha:
http://briansprediction.com/gale/cayleeanthony3.htm


"Hello Brian,
 
While watching the Friday September 5th edition of Great Van Sustren Great interviewed Leonard Padilla and during this interview Padilla talked about the first time that Casey was bailed out of jail and returned to the Anthony's home.  Padilla claims that the only time he spoke with Casey in her home she told him the now familiar story about how she gave Caylee to a woman name Zenaida Gonzalez.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3073674&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html
 
During Padilla's conversation with Casey she claims that Zenaida Gonzalez and her older sister Samantha Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee and gave Casey a "script" that she was to read and act from for the next 30 days if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again.  Casey also gave Padilla a description of the car that Zenaida and her sister Samantha drove which was a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.
 
Here's what we know to be fact:
 
1.  The police actually located a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment for rent at the Sawgrass apartment complex on June 17th.
 
2.  There is indeed a Samantha Gonzalez that lives in Orlando, Florida about 23 miles from the Anthony's home.
 
3.  The woman the police interviewed named Zenaida Gonzalez who lives in Orlando, Florida does indeed own and drive a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.

 
 
Now I find all of these facts to be too much to be an coincidence.
 
A woman with the name Zenaida Gonzalez, the same make, model, color and year of the car, who looked at an apartment on June 17th at the Sawgrass apartment complex.
 
I think it's more than plausible that Casey's story in regards to what she told Padilla may be true.  How in the world could Casey come up with the woman's name, car make/model/year, and, tell people that Caylee was left with Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments and have all of this be pot luck???  There has to be some truth in this.
 
Also, I know that the police interviewed the woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment at the Sawgrass apartment complex but how do we know that this woman and possibly her sister are not really involved in this in some way?  The police may have made a mistake and eliminated her as an suspect and possibly have been duped and lied to by Zenaida Gonzalez.  It wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.
 
I feel that it is quite conceivable that Casey did indeed take Caylee to the Sawgrass apartments and met with a Zenaida Gonzalez who may have only been pretending to live there when in fact she did not only to take Caylee from Casey.  This could all be part of an elaborate child kidnapping ring whereby these people pose as babysitters and then take off with the child after they gain a person's trust over time.  It is possible that Casey had been taking Caylee to Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments for several months and Zenaida was pretending to live at the Sawgrass apartments.  All she would need to do is wait outside in front of one of the apartments and act like she lived there and when Casey would come by to drop off Caylee it's possible that Casey simply handed Caylee to Zenaida without actually going into one of the apartments assuming that Zenaida lived there and when Casey left, Zenaida would be able to take Caylee anywhere she wanted to.
 
If all of the above is true and Casey was told to act a certain way or had been given "instructions" by kidnappers if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again who among us would not do what the kidnappers told us to do in order to protect our child?  We live in a very screwed up world and there are alot of sick people out there and it's very possible that Caylee really has been abducted and that her abducters are playing a sick game with Casey.
 
Obviously this is just a theory and we simply do not have all of the pieces of the puzzle in order to fully comprehend the situation here.  I think that it's important for everyone to remember this because none of us really has all of the pieces of the puzzle so it's easy to make assumptions such as she's guilty or someone kidnapped Caylee etc...
 
The bottom line is that none of us knows why Casey is acting the way she is acting.  Is she acting this way to protect Caylee from a real threat or is she already dead?  Perhaps Casey did have something to do with Caylee's death whether it was an accident or intentional and if so the truth will ultimately reveal itself in time God willing."
 
--------------

I'm curious where this person got the info, though, that Samantha is a real person.. is this verified? I haven't seen anything about her (that I recall).

I think most of the above is pure BS and it doesn't take at all into consideration the decomposition and hair and scalp attached to hair and chloroform found in Casey's car.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Monken on September 06, 2008, 11:07:03 PM
Hi, I'm popping in, been gone all day. i reallt think there may be something to the sand lake condo thing. I have just researched the location, it's 20 miles from her home straight down the beeline express, AND it's located slap in the middle of Disney ,Universal, & Seaworld. Under customer reviews at least two listed Bella Vida as the name! This could be worth looking into more. I used google maps.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Walter819 on September 06, 2008, 11:07:05 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

Would the Anthony's really let them? IF this is the case, I bet it's through a search warrant.  Has to be.

I know LE already searched the backyard.  Wouldn't it be something if the family moved Caylee's body back there AFTER LE searched it?  After all, the best place to hide a body is a place that has already been searched.
I thought they had done that already but my husband said they only moved a little of the pavers , so if anything LE will come in and tear it all up .. Tim no hes not LE hes searches fields a, swamps and woods , LE will bring there own people in for that I think LP just blows allott of smoke, some right some wrong JMO

Sorry My post got messed up Tim will not do the search LE will TIM doesnot do that kinda of searches


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 11:07:07 PM
http://www.sandlakecondos.com/

8927 Latrec Avenue
Orlando, FL 32819


I'm not sure of where that Amscot is located... anybody? I was just curious about the distance between the two.
[

I think 18 miles or so if I did this right. LOL!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 11:07:16 PM
Another interesting theory, posted over at Brian's... pertaining to Zenaida and Samantha:
http://briansprediction.com/gale/cayleeanthony3.htm


"Hello Brian,
 
While watching the Friday September 5th edition of Great Van Sustren Great interviewed Leonard Padilla and during this interview Padilla talked about the first time that Casey was bailed out of jail and returned to the Anthony's home.  Padilla claims that the only time he spoke with Casey in her home she told him the now familiar story about how she gave Caylee to a woman name Zenaida Gonzalez.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3073674&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html
 
During Padilla's conversation with Casey she claims that Zenaida Gonzalez and her older sister Samantha Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee and gave Casey a "script" that she was to read and act from for the next 30 days if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again.  Casey also gave Padilla a description of the car that Zenaida and her sister Samantha drove which was a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.
 
Here's what we know to be fact:
 
1.  The police actually located a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment for rent at the Sawgrass apartment complex on June 17th.
 
2.  There is indeed a Samantha Gonzalez that lives in Orlando, Florida about 23 miles from the Anthony's home.
 
3.  The woman the police interviewed named Zenaida Gonzalez who lives in Orlando, Florida does indeed own and drive a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.

 
 
Now I find all of these facts to be too much to be an coincidence.
 
A woman with the name Zenaida Gonzalez, the same make, model, color and year of the car, who looked at an apartment on June 17th at the Sawgrass apartment complex.
 
I think it's more than plausible that Casey's story in regards to what she told Padilla may be true.  How in the world could Casey come up with the woman's name, car make/model/year, and, tell people that Caylee was left with Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments and have all of this be pot luck???  There has to be some truth in this.
 
Also, I know that the police interviewed the woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment at the Sawgrass apartment complex but how do we know that this woman and possibly her sister are not really involved in this in some way?  The police may have made a mistake and eliminated her as an suspect and possibly have been duped and lied to by Zenaida Gonzalez.  It wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.
 
I feel that it is quite conceivable that Casey did indeed take Caylee to the Sawgrass apartments and met with a Zenaida Gonzalez who may have only been pretending to live there when in fact she did not only to take Caylee from Casey.  This could all be part of an elaborate child kidnapping ring whereby these people pose as babysitters and then take off with the child after they gain a person's trust over time.  It is possible that Casey had been taking Caylee to Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments for several months and Zenaida was pretending to live at the Sawgrass apartments.  All she would need to do is wait outside in front of one of the apartments and act like she lived there and when Casey would come by to drop off Caylee it's possible that Casey simply handed Caylee to Zenaida without actually going into one of the apartments assuming that Zenaida lived there and when Casey left, Zenaida would be able to take Caylee anywhere she wanted to.
 
If all of the above is true and Casey was told to act a certain way or had been given "instructions" by kidnappers if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again who among us would not do what the kidnappers told us to do in order to protect our child?  We live in a very screwed up world and there are alot of sick people out there and it's very possible that Caylee really has been abducted and that her abducters are playing a sick game with Casey.
 
Obviously this is just a theory and we simply do not have all of the pieces of the puzzle in order to fully comprehend the situation here.  I think that it's important for everyone to remember this because none of us really has all of the pieces of the puzzle so it's easy to make assumptions such as she's guilty or someone kidnapped Caylee etc...
 
The bottom line is that none of us knows why Casey is acting the way she is acting.  Is she acting this way to protect Caylee from a real threat or is she already dead?  Perhaps Casey did have something to do with Caylee's death whether it was an accident or intentional and if so the truth will ultimately reveal itself in time God willing."
 
--------------

I'm curious where this person got the info, though, that Samantha is a real person.. is this verified? I haven't seen anything about her (that I recall).

I've followed this thing pretty closely and haven't heard anything about "Samantha" until Casey told that story to Rob.  I've also seen nothing indicating Zenaida Gonzalez drives a 2008 Ford Focus.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 06, 2008, 11:08:02 PM
Dang!  Now Lee and the other truck is gone too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 11:08:17 PM
Obviously that person who posted is not being logical. However, were there not DNA found in the trunk, it would seem like a logical possibility.  Either way, I am still curious if this Samantha person exists, and how they know this person (if real) is in fact related.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:09:03 PM
Hi, I'm popping in, been gone all day. i reallt think there may be something to the sand lake condo thing. I have just researched the location, it's 20 miles from her home straight down the beeline express, AND it's located slap in the middle of Disney ,Universal, & Seaworld. Under customer reviews at least two listed Bella Vida as the name! This could be worth looking into more. I used google maps.

What a cute monkey Monken  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 11:09:12 PM

I'm curious where this person got the info, though, that Samantha is a real person.. is this verified? I haven't seen anything about her (that I recall).

I've followed this thing pretty closely and haven't heard anything about "Samantha" until Casey told that story to Rob.  I've also seen nothing indicating Zenaida Gonzalez drives a 2008 Ford Focus.

Wasn't it Kiomarie with the 2008 Ford Focus?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:09:26 PM
EGADS ... ALL the cars are gone now!  WHERE DID THEY GO?  POOF


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Monken on September 06, 2008, 11:09:52 PM
Thanks, Klaas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: cecilita on September 06, 2008, 11:11:40 PM
Hello everybody ::MonkeyTongue::
I am curious about the lights are putting in the Anthony's house.
The police will search again the Anthony's backyard...?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:11:43 PM
ugh camera hiccuping again


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 06, 2008, 11:13:03 PM
Hi, I'm popping in, been gone all day. i reallt think there may be something to the sand lake condo thing. I have just researched the location, it's 20 miles from her home straight down the beeline express, AND it's located slap in the middle of Disney ,Universal, & Seaworld. Under customer reviews at least two listed Bella Vida as the name! This could be worth looking into more. I used google maps.

20 miles isn't that bad..   
Casey kept telling people that Caylee was with the Nanny, either at Disney or Seaworld, Universal, ... perhaps because she IS near there?  Maybe in some sick way, she felt that would be the proper place to put Caylee?  And, she wouldn't be exactly lying to say she was there, either..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:14:17 PM
Hello everybody ::MonkeyTongue::
I am curious about the lights are putting in the Anthony's house.
The police will search again the Anthony's backyard...?

The police or TES is going to search the Anthony's backyard early next week according to Leonard Padilla.  Not sure about the lights or their purpose.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:14:32 PM
Hello everybody ::MonkeyTongue::
I am curious about the lights are putting in the Anthony's house.
The police will search again the Anthony's backyard...?

Not sure about either cecilita .... LP said on Geraldo tonight that Tim would search under pavers (I think he said slab) tomorrow or Monday .....  who knows


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Puzzler on September 06, 2008, 11:14:34 PM
Oh my word!!! I am re watching the video of the b day party where Caylee licks the frosting off caceys face. At first I thought how sweet it was. Now as I am observing it I notice someone takes Caylees hand with frosting on it and rubs it Caseys face....no big deal....Then watch how Casey takes Caylees hand and rubs it in HER face!!!! as if shes upset at her.....think about would you take your 2yo daughters hand with frosting and rub it on her face???? Maybe I'm obssessing too much but it creeped me out when I watched it again

I had the same creepy, sick in the gut feeling when I first saw that tape on 20/20 last night.  I started to post that here, but decided not to.  If you're obsessing too much, then so am I.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Monken on September 06, 2008, 11:16:13 PM
On sandlakecondos.com website you can see maps & a virtual tour & many pictures. I don't know yet how this would tie in to the other locations or cellphone pings, but I'll do what I can to find out!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Puzzler on September 06, 2008, 11:16:14 PM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.

Excellent!

They can also determine if Caylee was given any other drugs and what those drugs were.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:16:18 PM
Looks like they are doing an 11pm news update:

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: IBE on September 06, 2008, 11:16:35 PM
I'm going to pull a Robots here....my job here is done....I've got a lot to deal with on the Natalee thread...new stuff in the works....will check back here too....this case is solved....Destiny

Dear Destiny,

I am behind in reading, probably about 20 pages. I don't know the reason why you'd wish to pull a "ROBOTS" (boy do I love him and miss him), anyway, see the words in my tag line here???

You have done everything a great Soul would do... as my late mom would say, you have gained gold stars in the Chart of Heaven. (you know like the gold stars we used to get for our spelling tests)

Please don't leave here.

Thanks and God Bless,

Love,

IBE

PS it's your guts, Marlee and others here that have made me check my account tomorrow for what I can donate to TES, your efforts and others.

Gads, sometimes I can't put into words what I want to. Please don't leave.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nessagurl on September 06, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
Oh my word!!! I am re watching the video of the b day party where Caylee licks the frosting off caceys face. At first I thought how sweet it was. Now as I am observing it I notice someone takes Caylees hand with frosting on it and rubs it Caseys face....no big deal....Then watch how Casey takes Caylees hand and rubs it in HER face!!!! as if shes upset at her.....think about would you take your 2yo daughters hand with frosting and rub it on her face???? Maybe I'm obssessing too much but it creeped me out when I watched it again

I had the same creepy, sick in the gut feeling when I first saw that tape on 20/20 last night.  I started to post that here, but decided not to.  If you're obsessing too much, then so am I.









If she looked mad when she did it then i would say no to obsessing but I know that my grandmother smears cake on the birthday persons face from 2 years old on thru the years im bout to be 26 and she still does it to me.  For us its kind of a tradition.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:17:09 PM
On sandlakecondos.com website you can see maps & a virtual tour & many pictures. I don't know yet how this would tie in to the other locations or cellphone pings, but I'll do what I can to find out!

Thanks Monken


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 06, 2008, 11:18:02 PM


I Did not make this One, But its Worth Posting   ::MonkeyDance::




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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 11:18:34 PM
klaas, if you are still online, can you check your monkey mail? tia. :)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: cecilita on September 06, 2008, 11:18:37 PM
Hello everybody ::MonkeyTongue::
I am curious about the lights are putting in the Anthony's house.
The police will search again the Anthony's backyard...?

The police or TES is going to search the Anthony's backyard early next week according to Leonard Padilla.  Not sure about the lights or their purpose.
tHANKS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 11:18:53 PM

I'm curious where this person got the info, though, that Samantha is a real person.. is this verified? I haven't seen anything about her (that I recall).

I've followed this thing pretty closely and haven't heard anything about "Samantha" until Casey told that story to Rob.  I've also seen nothing indicating Zenaida Gonzalez drives a 2008 Ford Focus.

Wasn't it Kiomarie with the 2008 Ford Focus?

hmmm....I don't recall seeing anything about Kio's car.  In the initial statement though, Casey claimed Zenaida drives a 2008 Ford Focus.  Silver IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 11:18:54 PM
Oh my word!!! I am re watching the video of the b day party where Caylee licks the frosting off caceys face. At first I thought how sweet it was. Now as I am observing it I notice someone takes Caylees hand with frosting on it and rubs it Caseys face....no big deal....Then watch how Casey takes Caylees hand and rubs it in HER face!!!! as if shes upset at her.....think about would you take your 2yo daughters hand with frosting and rub it on her face???? Maybe I'm obssessing too much but it creeped me out when I watched it again

I had the same creepy, sick in the gut feeling when I first saw that tape on 20/20 last night.  I started to post that here, but decided not to.  If you're obsessing too much, then so am I.



So Did I and Caylee didn't find it funny at all.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Daryl on September 06, 2008, 11:20:10 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:21:12 PM
klaas, if you are still online, can you check your monkey mail? tia. :)

Taken care of  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 11:21:26 PM


I Did not make this One, But its Worth Posting   ::MonkeyDance::




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HA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:22:00 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

Most likey not w/out a search warrant .... and no confirmation that I heard of as to Caylee's article of clothing for searches.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: cecilita on September 06, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
Hello everybody ::MonkeyTongue::
I am curious about the lights are putting in the Anthony's house.
The police will search again the Anthony's backyard...?

Not sure about either cecilita .... LP said on Geraldo tonight that Tim would search under pavers (I think he said slab) tomorrow or Monday .....  who knows
Maybe they will use the bright lights for the work will do at night. I think they believe that caylee was in that backyard. I hope they will find a new evidence in this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:22:59 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

I asked Red to find out from Tim Miller about if the Anthony's gave them a scent item of Caylee's...haven't heard back on that. 

I believe there will be a search warrant and the Anthony's won't have a choice but allow searchers to dig in their yard.  I don't know if it will be LE or TES but it can certainly happen. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 11:23:04 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

I imagine Cindy would go batsh*t crazy if Tim showed up to search her yard.  It would have to be LE - with a warrant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Daryl on September 06, 2008, 11:23:21 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

Most likey not w/out a search warrant .... and no confirmation that I heard of as to Caylee's article of clothing for searches.
Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 11:23:49 PM
klaas, if you are still online, can you check your monkey mail? tia. :)

Taken care of  ::MonkeyWink::

Thank you so much!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 06, 2008, 11:24:50 PM
Also Casey changed her story and is now saying she left Caylee at the park with Zenaida and Samantha and not at the apartment.  She is a liar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: cecilita on September 06, 2008, 11:25:03 PM


I Did not make this One, But its Worth Posting   ::MonkeyDance::




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a mostache is missing in that picture


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 11:25:45 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

I asked Red to find out from Tim Miller about if the Anthony's gave them a scent item of Caylee's...haven't heard back on that. 

I believe there will be a search warrant and the Anthony's won't have a choice but allow searchers to dig in their yard.  I don't know if it will be LE or TES but it can certainly happen. 

Makes you wonder if anyone in that house is nervous.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 06, 2008, 11:26:30 PM
I assume that the script instructed Casey to party it up for next 30 days and ... go get herself a tattoo.

I assume that Baez regards the decomposition and DNA in the trunk of Casey's vehicle a non-issue.  I assume the fact there is not one shred of evidence which implies that Z the long time nanny ever existed is a non issue.

I assume that there is a reasonable explanation why the script cannot be produced.  Something akin to Mission Impossible ... the instruction were to be read ... memorized and destroyed.

The master manipulator has a few takers on this one.

Janet

+++++++++

Casey says She Left Her Daughter In Park
Last Edited: Saturday, 06 Sep 2008, 7:59 AM EDT
Created: Friday, 05 Sep 2008, 9:53 PM EDT
Rob Dick

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The public story that has been most often attributed to Casey Anthony concerning the disappearance of her daughter Caylee may not be the same one she is telling privately.

According to the man who drove Casey Anthony around during the time she was first released on bond said Friday that Casey told him she left three year old Caylee with her babysitter at Blanchard Park in East Orange County.

Rob Dick is a bounty hunter who took Casey Anthony to and from her parent’s home in East Orange County to the jail for appointments and her attorney’s office in Kissimmee. 

Dick said that Casey was very talkative during the rides and spoke of her missing daughter in the present tense. And even though he wasn’t allowed to ask her any questions about the case, she gave him several names she said were involved in the disappearance of her daughter.

“She would try to, you know, give me leads and things to look into,” he said. “A lot of confirming of her story that she gave police.”

Dick also said that Casey never really showed any emotion.

“There was no crying,” he said. “There was no frustration other than the fact it seemed like it wasn't getting anywhere. She was telling a story and nobody was believing her.”

Caylee Anthony has been missing since the middle of June. Casey didn’t report her disappearance until July.

According to investigators the story she told them, and the one most often quoted in the media, was that she left Casey with a babysitter named Zanida Fernandez -Gonzalez at an apartment in Orange County. But when investigators went to the apartment, no one by the name lived there. Shortly after Casey was arrested and charged with child neglect making false statements and obstructing the investigation into her daughter's disappearance.

Investigators eventually did find a woman matching the name who had visited the apartment Casey named, but she said she didn’t know Casey Anthony or the child.

According to Dick, the story Casey told him was that she had left Caylee with Zanida Fernandez –Gonzalez and Gonzalez’s sister Samantha at Blanchard Park in East Orange County, and according to Dick, Casey Anthony was given a ‘script’ to use for 30 days that would be used to explain Caylee’s disappearance to Casey’s parents and the authorities.

Early in the investigation, Sheriff’s department investigators repeatedly said that Casey was a habitual liar and had told them numerous mistruths and the original story concerning the apartment.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7372388&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:26:41 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

I imagine Cindy would go batsh*t crazy if Tim showed up to search her yard.  It would have to be LE - with a warrant.

Who knows Switchy .... maybe thats what LE wants ... who knows what kind of info might spew from her mouth under that kind of pressure


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Puzzler on September 06, 2008, 11:26:42 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Puzzler on September 06, 2008, 11:28:17 PM
Then they better get a camera on the backyard pronto as I'll bet there is lots of action going on there tonight!

Maybe this is what the LE leak to Fox was about....fast breaking news in the case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: cecilita on September 06, 2008, 11:29:41 PM
Also Casey changed her story and is now saying she left Caylee at the park with Zenaida and Samantha and not at the apartment.  She is a liar.
Maybe after she killed Caylee, she started searching for a possible killer of her baby and she found ZENAIDA....maybe Casey dropped Caylee's body around Zenaida's Apartment.
But if it is true that Zenaida was the Babysitter or the possible kidnapper, Caylee's cloth and toys should have zenaida's DNA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 11:31:01 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Puzzler on September 06, 2008, 11:31:23 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

Would the Anthony's really let them? IF this is the case, I bet it's through a search warrant.  Has to be.

I know LE already searched the backyard.  Wouldn't it be something if the family moved Caylee's body back there AFTER LE searched it?  After all, the best place to hide a body is a place that has already been searched.

As I said before they had better check out that freezer in the garage. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes, I've brought up that freezer a couple of times myself in hopes that LE is monitoring this site and might pick up on it.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: bellabeauty08 on September 06, 2008, 11:31:37 PM
lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 06, 2008, 11:31:50 PM
Then they better get a camera on the backyard pronto as I'll bet there is lots of action going on there tonight!

Maybe this is what the LE leak to Fox was about....fast breaking news in the case


I believe there will be something big Monday. I don't know why, but I keep having that feeling. If they got a "tip" on that concealed gun, they got some other tips. I hope they are running balistics tests on that gun.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:31:58 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




I'll tell ya ... you can't make this stuff up!  LOL   I'm thinking LP is going out there on a limb ... first the dumpster comment, then Lee possibly the father, now this ..... I wonder if he is helping this investigation (adding pressure) or hurting it .... I like LP ... I really think he wants Caylee found but .... I just don't know where he is coming from on all these speculations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Daryl on September 06, 2008, 11:33:41 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

I asked Red to find out from Tim Miller about if the Anthony's gave them a scent item of Caylee's...haven't heard back on that. 

I believe there will be a search warrant and the Anthony's won't have a choice but allow searchers to dig in their yard.  I don't know if it will be LE or TES but it can certainly happen. 
Wouldn't there need to be a LE statement that showed cause for the search warrant? Plus, wouldn't it need a judge's signature? I don't think any group can simply demand to search a person's property. No matter what our opinion of TES, this seems a little strange to me, unless it is OC SO seeking the search warrant or the Anthonys have allowed the search (which I would doubt).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:34:07 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.

I believe she could have possibly been moved BACK after the first search.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 11:35:05 PM
Casey- your 30 day script was over when your mother called 911.  Remember you said "I have not seen my daughter in 31 days."  Get your story straight.

However, I do hold much cred on what LP has to say.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 06, 2008, 11:37:12 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




I'll tell ya ... you can't make this stuff up!  LOL   I'm thinking LP is going out there on a limb ... first the dumpster comment, then Lee possibly the father, now this ..... I wonder if he is helping this investigation (adding pressure) or hurting it .... I like LP ... I really think he wants Caylee found but .... I just don't know where he is coming from on all these speculations.

I think BEFORE he brought her home, he had the house set up for conversations, the computer set up to see all the websites visited, and anything else new electronic surveillance has now. He was not going to lose his money, and he had two inside people also. I personally believes he knows a LOT, but cannot and will not disclose it because it would jeopardize LE's case. I doubt it is anything which can be used in court, but can be used for other things.

Since I don't live there, I wonder if someone could tell me what "pavers" are.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Anninflorida on September 06, 2008, 11:37:36 PM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:38:27 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

I asked Red to find out from Tim Miller about if the Anthony's gave them a scent item of Caylee's...haven't heard back on that. 

I believe there will be a search warrant and the Anthony's won't have a choice but allow searchers to dig in their yard.  I don't know if it will be LE or TES but it can certainly happen. 
Wouldn't there need to be a LE statement that showed cause for the search warrant? Plus, wouldn't it need a judge's signature? I don't think any group can simply demand to search a person's property. No matter what our opinion of TES, this seems a little strange to me, unless it is OC SO seeking the search warrant or the Anthonys have allowed the search (which I would doubt).

I would think there would be PLEANTY of good reason's LE could use to get a search warrant!  They certainly have successfully done so in the past!  No one said that TES were the ones requesting to search.  LP simply stated that Tim may search .... TES is searching were LE is asking them to go. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 11:38:57 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

I'm sure LE is loving this.  While we're all watching LP, Cindy, the protestors and Tim, no one is watching LE.  I'm quite sure they like it that way.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




I'll tell ya ... you can't make this stuff up!  LOL   I'm thinking LP is going out there on a limb ... first the dumpster comment, then Lee possibly the father, now this ..... I wonder if he is helping this investigation (adding pressure) or hurting it .... I like LP ... I really think he wants Caylee found but .... I just don't know where he is coming from on all these speculations.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:41:25 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.
Will the Anthonys allow that? Also, was there a confirmation from TES that the Anthonys would not provide a Caylee garment to train their search dogs? TYIA

I asked Red to find out from Tim Miller about if the Anthony's gave them a scent item of Caylee's...haven't heard back on that. 

I believe there will be a search warrant and the Anthony's won't have a choice but allow searchers to dig in their yard.  I don't know if it will be LE or TES but it can certainly happen. 
Wouldn't there need to be a LE statement that showed cause for the search warrant? Plus, wouldn't it need a judge's signature? I don't think any group can simply demand to search a person's property. No matter what our opinion of TES, this seems a little strange to me, unless it is OC SO seeking the search warrant or the Anthonys have allowed the search (which I would doubt).

I would think there would be PLEANTY of good reason's LE could use to get a search warrant!  They certainly have successfully done so in the past!  No one said that TES were the ones requesting to search.  LP simply stated that Tim may search .... TES is searching were LE is asking them to go. 

Daryl - I'm not suggesting that TES is in any way asking for a search.  All I'm saying that TES is working WITH LE and if LE gets a search warrant to search the Anthony back yard, and if LE asks TES to search the Anthony back yard, TES will search the Anthony back yard.  TES is doing what LE asks them to do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Daryl on September 06, 2008, 11:41:27 PM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:43:18 PM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

Thanks Anninfl - wonder if they are motion lights, LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 11:43:32 PM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

I too have believed this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 06, 2008, 11:43:38 PM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

No kidding.  I wouldn't sleep in that house until I installed an industrial size deadbolt on my bedroom door.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Daryl on September 06, 2008, 11:43:46 PM

Daryl - I'm not suggesting that TES is in any way asking for a search.  All I'm saying that TES is working WITH LE and if LE gets a search warrant to search the Anthony back yard, and if LE asks TES to search the Anthony back yard, TES will search the Anthony back yard.  TES is doing what LE asks them to do.

Yes, because in a sense TES is a contract employee of OC LE. They are paying them afterall.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Anninflorida on September 06, 2008, 11:44:35 PM
I think LP has told LE much more than we can even imagine at this point.  I have to say that I have gained some amount of respect for him over the last week.  I think he really got more media out of this one than even he had bargained for. Even if he wasn't in the Anthony house often, he had people that were.  I think he was intentionally out of the limelight a lot because he was doing other things, like talking to LE.  It won't surprise me to hear that he will be called to testify in this case.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 06, 2008, 11:45:17 PM

Daryl - I'm not suggesting that TES is in any way asking for a search.  All I'm saying that TES is working WITH LE and if LE gets a search warrant to search the Anthony back yard, and if LE asks TES to search the Anthony back yard, TES will search the Anthony back yard.  TES is doing what LE asks them to do.

Yes, because in a sense TES is a contract employee of OC LE. They are paying them afterall.

True - OC LE donated $5,000 plus equipment to TES for the search


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 11:45:49 PM
Oh Yeah - Pavers are pretty much like bricks.  I habe them in my driveway and walkway.  Some people refer to them as cobblestone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:46:34 PM

Daryl - I'm not suggesting that TES is in any way asking for a search.  All I'm saying that TES is working WITH LE and if LE gets a search warrant to search the Anthony back yard, and if LE asks TES to search the Anthony back yard, TES will search the Anthony back yard.  TES is doing what LE asks them to do.

Yes, because in a sense TES is a contract employee of OC LE. They are paying them afterall.

TES is an independant operator ... under no contract or obligation of anyone.  They work off of their own resources, the kindness of caring citizens and DONTATIONS from whomever chooses to DONATE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Altruist on September 06, 2008, 11:46:40 PM
Daryl,

do you know if there are any materials, chemicals that can sabotage cadaver dogs from detecting the decomposition smells.  Like if a body was 6 feet underground in the middle of a 9' x 14' area inside a hard plastic storage container lidded & then bungie corded having the hole surrounded with such a sabotaging material?

I so need some guidance, this is driving me over the edge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Anninflorida on September 06, 2008, 11:48:10 PM
I hope Casey is sitting in front of a monitor, watching all of the angry protestors and reading every one of the signs they are carrying.  I think someone should force her to watch the videos of that precious little Caylee over and over again.  Maybe that would break her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: jaggard19 on September 06, 2008, 11:50:43 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

I'm sure LE is loving this.  While we're all watching LP, Cindy, the protestors and Tim, no one is watching LE.  I'm quite sure they like it that way.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




I'll tell ya ... you can't make this stuff up!  LOL   I'm thinking LP is going out there on a limb ... first the dumpster comment, then Lee possibly the father, now this ..... I wonder if he is helping this investigation (adding pressure) or hurting it .... I like LP ... I really think he wants Caylee found but .... I just don't know where he is coming from on all these speculations.

I think LP is pulling a "casey" and giving out all this insane info just to irritate the family, and let them know what it feels like for the rest of the world with the info Casey is giving.... none of it true, but you never know!  And if he is, I hope he continues!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 06, 2008, 11:51:39 PM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

Thanks Anninfl - wonder if they are motion lights, LOL

Someone send the skank-cam address to Casey....she can see what's going on outside her house.....and it's free Casey...you don't have to steal any more $$


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:52:25 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

I'm sure LE is loving this.  While we're all watching LP, Cindy, the protestors and Tim, no one is watching LE.  I'm quite sure they like it that way.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




I'll tell ya ... you can't make this stuff up!  LOL   I'm thinking LP is going out there on a limb ... first the dumpster comment, then Lee possibly the father, now this ..... I wonder if he is helping this investigation (adding pressure) or hurting it .... I like LP ... I really think he wants Caylee found but .... I just don't know where he is coming from on all these speculations.

I think LP is pulling a "casey" and giving out all this insane info just to irritate the family, and let them know what it feels like for the rest of the world with the info Casey is giving.... none of it true, but you never know!  And if he is, I hope he continues!



I dunno .... I'm hopin he has some "inside" information (if ya know what I mean) 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Puzzler on September 06, 2008, 11:52:31 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.

I believe she could have possibly been moved BACK after the first search.

In the interviews Greta had with Cindy and George, didn't George tell her that he had checked out the backyard and lifted up and looked under the pavers that he had recently laid down?  I thought that was very strange.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Daryl on September 06, 2008, 11:52:38 PM
Daryl,

do you know if there are any materials, chemicals that can sabotage cadaver dogs from detecting the decomposition smells.  Like if a body was 6 feet underground in the middle of a 9' x 14' area inside a hard plastic storage container lidded & then bungie corded having the hole surrounded with such a sabotaging material?

I so need some guidance, this is driving me over the edge.
Completely out of my expertise. There is an interesting book I read a while back written by Mary Roach "Stiffs" that describes some of that. It is a little macabre, but very readable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 06, 2008, 11:54:58 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.

I believe she could have possibly been moved BACK after the first search.

Now there is a though. I wonder if LE had them under surveillance after the first search.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:55:40 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.

I believe she could have possibly been moved BACK after the first search.

In the interviews Greta had with Cindy and George, didn't George tell her that he had checked out the backyard and lifted up and looked under the pavers that he had recently laid down?  I thought that was very strange.



Not sure puzzler, I didn't see many of the Greta inverviews   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: invision on September 06, 2008, 11:57:23 PM
Niterzzz all .... I'm getting sleepy! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 11:57:49 PM
I wonder if LE (or maybe even LP) have bugged the inside of the house.  They have done that before here in Florida with the missing Eisenberg baby,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Dihannah1 on September 06, 2008, 11:58:27 PM
Another interesting theory, posted over at Brian's... pertaining to Zenaida and Samantha:
http://briansprediction.com/gale/cayleeanthony3.htm


"Hello Brian,
 
While watching the Friday September 5th edition of Great Van Sustren Great interviewed Leonard Padilla and during this interview Padilla talked about the first time that Casey was bailed out of jail and returned to the Anthony's home.  Padilla claims that the only time he spoke with Casey in her home she told him the now familiar story about how she gave Caylee to a woman name Zenaida Gonzalez.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3073674&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html
 
During Padilla's conversation with Casey she claims that Zenaida Gonzalez and her older sister Samantha Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee and gave Casey a "script" that she was to read and act from for the next 30 days if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again.  Casey also gave Padilla a description of the car that Zenaida and her sister Samantha drove which was a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.
 
Here's what we know to be fact:
 
1.  The police actually located a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment for rent at the Sawgrass apartment complex on June 17th.
 
2.  There is indeed a Samantha Gonzalez that lives in Orlando, Florida about 23 miles from the Anthony's home.
 
3.  The woman the police interviewed named Zenaida Gonzalez who lives in Orlando, Florida does indeed own and drive a 2008 Silver Ford Focus.

 
 
Now I find all of these facts to be too much to be an coincidence.
 
A woman with the name Zenaida Gonzalez, the same make, model, color and year of the car, who looked at an apartment on June 17th at the Sawgrass apartment complex.
 
I think it's more than plausible that Casey's story in regards to what she told Padilla may be true.  How in the world could Casey come up with the woman's name, car make/model/year, and, tell people that Caylee was left with Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments and have all of this be pot luck???  There has to be some truth in this.
 
Also, I know that the police interviewed the woman named Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment at the Sawgrass apartment complex but how do we know that this woman and possibly her sister are not really involved in this in some way?  The police may have made a mistake and eliminated her as an suspect and possibly have been duped and lied to by Zenaida Gonzalez.  It wouldn't be the first time something like this happened.
 
I feel that it is quite conceivable that Casey did indeed take Caylee to the Sawgrass apartments and met with a Zenaida Gonzalez who may have only been pretending to live there when in fact she did not only to take Caylee from Casey.  This could all be part of an elaborate child kidnapping ring whereby these people pose as babysitters and then take off with the child after they gain a person's trust over time.  It is possible that Casey had been taking Caylee to Zenaida at the Sawgrass apartments for several months and Zenaida was pretending to live at the Sawgrass apartments.  All she would need to do is wait outside in front of one of the apartments and act like she lived there and when Casey would come by to drop off Caylee it's possible that Casey simply handed Caylee to Zenaida without actually going into one of the apartments assuming that Zenaida lived there and when Casey left, Zenaida would be able to take Caylee anywhere she wanted to.
 
If all of the above is true and Casey was told to act a certain way or had been given "instructions" by kidnappers if she ever wanted to see Caylee alive again who among us would not do what the kidnappers told us to do in order to protect our child?  We live in a very screwed up world and there are alot of sick people out there and it's very possible that Caylee really has been abducted and that her abducters are playing a sick game with Casey.
 
Obviously this is just a theory and we simply do not have all of the pieces of the puzzle in order to fully comprehend the situation here.  I think that it's important for everyone to remember this because none of us really has all of the pieces of the puzzle so it's easy to make assumptions such as she's guilty or someone kidnapped Caylee etc...
 
The bottom line is that none of us knows why Casey is acting the way she is acting.  Is she acting this way to protect Caylee from a real threat or is she already dead?  Perhaps Casey did have something to do with Caylee's death whether it was an accident or intentional and if so the truth will ultimately reveal itself in time God willing."
 
--------------

I'm curious where this person got the info, though, that Samantha is a real person.. is this verified? I haven't seen anything about her (that I recall).

Just trying to catch up here, I'm sure others have responded to this.   But my question is how do you explain the decomp smell in the trunk, including the samples taken from the trunk, blood, hair, etc...   then chloroform, the list goes on.....  I might consider this if it not for all the other evidence the LE has leaked, not to mention, what they haven't leaked yet.   All you need to do, is weigh the pro's and con's, and there is overwhelming evidence, this is not the case.  Not to say, Z and S, may NOT have had something to do with it.   But Casey was very involved, if not the ringmaster of this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: AzGrama on September 06, 2008, 11:58:58 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.

I believe she could have possibly been moved BACK after the first search.

Trying to get caught up so if this has been addressed, sorry.  I thought Cindy told Greta that the dogs had an "inconsistant" hit on the pavers. And then Cindy questioned (maybe somewhere else) if sweat or blood on the pavers would cause the dog to alert because George had sweat and bled while putting in those pavers.  Anyone else remember any of this? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: cecilita on September 06, 2008, 11:59:05 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.

I believe she could have possibly been moved BACK after the first search.

In the interviews Greta had with Cindy and George, didn't George tell her that he had checked out the backyard and lifted up and looked under the pavers that he had recently laid down?  I thought that was very strange.



Not sure puzzler, I didn't see many of the Greta inverviews   ::MonkeyNoNo::
Could they put clorofoorm...?....did they notice after the first search if  the dogs were sleepy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: mytime on September 06, 2008, 11:59:14 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.

I believe she could have possibly been moved BACK after the first search.

In the interviews Greta had with Cindy and George, didn't George tell her that he had checked out the backyard and lifted up and looked under the pavers that he had recently laid down?  I thought that was very strange.



Not sure puzzler, I didn't see many of the Greta inverviews   ::MonkeyNoNo::

You can watch them on You-Tube.  Just type in Caylee Anthony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 06, 2008, 11:59:23 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?

Yes.  I don't think it's slab as much as it's pavers.  If LP is saying Tim will be searching there he's probably right.

LP said there was a slab recently poured and that Tim Miller will probably be looking under that slab....if not tomorrow, the Monday or Tuesday. (I listened to it twice..)




Slab? I heard pavers.

Even if it was pavers. Why didn't the dogs hit? Could they have dug deep enough? Covered with lyme or something to throw the scent off? So many questions.

I believe she could have possibly been moved BACK after the first search.

In the interviews Greta had with Cindy and George, didn't George tell her that he had checked out the backyard and lifted up and looked under the pavers that he had recently laid down?  I thought that was very strange.



let me get this sraight....the 1st place normal families look for their missing 3 yr old child/grandchild is under concrete pavers.......these people are beyond ridiculous


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Puzzler on September 07, 2008, 12:01:15 AM
I think LP has told LE much more than we can even imagine at this point.  I have to say that I have gained some amount of respect for him over the last week.  I think he really got more media out of this one than even he had bargained for. Even if he wasn't in the Anthony house often, he had people that were.  I think he was intentionally out of the limelight a lot because he was doing other things, like talking to LE.  It won't surprise me to hear that he will be called to testify in this case.



He has said that they won't be called by the prosecution to testify.  (Who really knows.)

Tony has said that he and LP have interviewed several people who know Casey and "are continuing to interview 1 to 2 more each week".  I would think that Tony/LP are providing the LE with any information they get from these interviews...continuing intereviews.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Altruist on September 07, 2008, 12:01:30 AM
thanks for responding Daryl

will check that book out online


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:04:21 AM
I hope Casey is sitting in front of a monitor, watching all of the angry protestors and reading every one of the signs they are carrying.  I think someone should force her to watch the videos of that precious little Caylee over and over again.  Maybe that would break her. 

I'm pretty sure if Casey can handle touching and carrying and dumping her daughter's decomposing corpse, she can handle a few piddly protestors and Caylee videos.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Daryl on September 07, 2008, 12:04:26 AM

let me get this sraight....the 1st place normal families look for their missing 3 yr old child/grandchild is under concrete pavers.......these people are beyond ridiculous
Sad. Normal families don't wait a month.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Puzzler on September 07, 2008, 12:04:28 AM
I hope Casey is sitting in front of a monitor, watching all of the angry protestors and reading every one of the signs they are carrying.  I think someone should force her to watch the videos of that precious little Caylee over and over again.  Maybe that would break her. 


Maybe the PR attorney has had them put up the camera to get shots for their book and film for their movie.  ::MonkeyShocked::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Daryl on September 07, 2008, 12:05:56 AM
thanks for responding Daryl

will check that book out online
You're welcome. As odd as the subject may seem, it is a good read.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 07, 2008, 12:09:11 AM
I wonder if ZG just happened to visit the Sawgrass that day and Casey noticed ZG getting in her car, wrote the license plate and had one of her LE connections that she slept with run the plate for her and BAMN, she has a scapegoat.

Once you have a the name and the car it would b easy to track down info on them to help build your story.

Casey was all about the details when she gives a lie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 12:09:24 AM
Update - Channel 13 News.   (oh, how I wish I could type)

As Geraldo would report:  ::MonkeyDance::

Item:  Security camera's installed at the Anthony's.

Item:  Neighbors are starting to take there street back.  Police are posted on both sides of the street.  Protesters continue to gather in front of the Anthony's

Item:  Record number of searchers.  They have been given instructions not to speak to media.

Item:  Gun found but since Casey was unaware - she will not taken back in.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Kristen1977 on September 07, 2008, 12:10:37 AM
Did someone say the family left the house not too long ago? I hope the weren't watching Fox news, found out about a possible yard search and are removing evidence. I hope LE watches every place they go when they leave.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 12:11:43 AM

let me get this sraight....the 1st place normal families look for their missing 3 yr old child/grandchild is under concrete pavers.......these people are beyond ridiculous
Sad. Normal families don't wait a month.

Exactly....my son is 20 years old and a JR at U.T. in Austin and I had not talked to him in 5 days.  I called him today and he didnt answer his phone and I left him a message to call me with that tone in my voice...lol.  He called me 5 minutes later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: AzGrama on September 07, 2008, 12:13:40 AM
I could be wrong on this but Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, I thought hyphenated last names meant Fernandez was her maiden name and Gonzales would be her married name.  If this is true her sister's name should be Samantha Fernandez (if single) or Samantha (Married Name).  I guess she could be Samantha Gonzales if she also married a Gonzales.  Not sure of this, just pondering.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Kristen1977 on September 07, 2008, 12:15:00 AM
Good point. Maiden name goes first, married name last.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 12:15:01 AM
Update - Channel 13 News.   (oh, how I wish I could type)

As Geraldo would report:  ::MonkeyDance::

Item:  Security camera's installed at the Anthony's.

Item:  Neighbors are starting to take there street back.  Police are posted on both sides of the street.  Protesters continue to gather in front of the Anthony's

Item:  Record number of searchers.  They have been given instructions not to speak to media.

Item:  Gun found but since Casey was unaware - she will not taken back in.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Thanks! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: cecilita on September 07, 2008, 12:21:16 AM
I could be wrong on this but Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, I thought hyphenated last names meant Fernandez was her maiden name and Gonzales would be her married name.  If this is true her sister's name should be Samantha Fernandez (if single) or Samantha (Married Name).  I guess she could be Samantha Gonzales if she also married a Gonzales.  Not sure of this, just pondering.
Spanish people like me. We have 2 last names, fernandez and Gonzales are last names.
The first last name is the father last name and the second is the mother last name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: jaggard19 on September 07, 2008, 12:23:17 AM
I wonder if ZG just happened to visit the Sawgrass that day and Casey noticed ZG getting in her car, wrote the license plate and had one of her LE connections that she slept with run the plate for her and BAMN, she has a scapegoat.

Once you have a the name and the car it would b easy to track down info on them to help build your story.

Casey was all about the details when she gives a lie.

Just like George... details, lies, details, lies...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: cecilita on September 07, 2008, 12:24:27 AM
I could be wrong on this but Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, I thought hyphenated last names meant Fernandez was her maiden name and Gonzales would be her married name.  If this is true her sister's name should be Samantha Fernandez (if single) or Samantha (Married Name).  I guess she could be Samantha Gonzales if she also married a Gonzales.  Not sure of this, just pondering.
Spanish people like me. We have 2 last names, Fernandez and Gonzales are last names.
The first last name is the father last name and the second is the mother last name.
Cindy and George had or have some kind of addcition?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: OIC,UR12! on September 07, 2008, 12:25:22 AM
I could be wrong on this but Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, I thought hyphenated last names meant Fernandez was her maiden name and Gonzales would be her married name.  If this is true her sister's name should be Samantha Fernandez (if single) or Samantha (Married Name).  I guess she could be Samantha Gonzales if she also married a Gonzales.  Not sure of this, just pondering.

Interesting point, but I often refer to my sister in law as just my sister. This could be the case in this matter, if these women do exist in the roles Casey has portrayed.

What if Caylee is still alive, or is found and has been killed since Casey was arrested the first time?
I just do not want to believe this beautiful little girl is dead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: cecilita on September 07, 2008, 12:25:52 AM
I wonder if ZG just happened to visit the Sawgrass that day and Casey noticed ZG getting in her car, wrote the license plate and had one of her LE connections that she slept with run the plate for her and BAMN, she has a scapegoat.

Once you have a the name and the car it would b easy to track down info on them to help build your story.

Casey was all about the details when she gives a lie.

Just like George... details, lies, details, lies...


In that case it means that Casey killed Caylee before Zenaida went to the park


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:27:05 AM
I wonder if ZG just happened to visit the Sawgrass that day and Casey noticed ZG getting in her car, wrote the license plate and had one of her LE connections that she slept with run the plate for her and BAMN, she has a scapegoat.

Once you have a the name and the car it would b easy to track down info on them to help build your story.

Casey was all about the details when she gives a lie.

Bingo.  That's exactly what I thought.  Casey saw Zenaida either leaving or entering Sawgrass apartments on the 17th and got her personal info from a cop (Jesse or Tony).  I've also wondered if that's ANOTHER reason Tony the cop got fired and why Tony the cop lied about his relationship with Casey in the first place.  LE has squashed all info about Tony cop since they fired him.  I also notice his interviews were not in the first 400 pages released.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:28:26 AM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

No kidding.  I wouldn't sleep in that house until I installed an industrial size deadbolt on my bedroom door.

That would mean that the area TES is searching now won't produce Caylee. Unless Casey just meant to infer that she was in the Orlando vicinity vs out of state. I'm beginning to think that maybe LP is right on that point. Maybe the flurry of calls really was to establish where everyone was so she could go home unhindered. She got the shovel from the neighbor when she asked, right? The pings took place before she borrowed it, right? How long did she have it? I'll go find these answers, I was just hoping someone might remember. TIA!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 12:28:47 AM
Pathalogical liars add a bunch of "mistruths" BS to their lie.  You end up like a dog chasing their tale.  It is to distract you from getting to the bottom of your question.

Trust me it works.  My adorable  12 year old son has a terrible lying problem.  Sometimes I walk away, scratching my head and wonder what my original question was.

I am wise to his ways now.  In fairness to him.  I adopted him whne he was 8 years old and hasn't had easy.  Bio mom was crazier than Cindy and that is no lie.
W


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 07, 2008, 12:29:27 AM
Daryl,

do you know if there are any materials, chemicals that can sabotage cadaver dogs from detecting the decomposition smells.  Like if a body was 6 feet underground in the middle of a 9' x 14' area inside a hard plastic storage container lidded & then bungie corded having the hole surrounded with such a sabotaging material?

I so need some guidance, this is driving me over the edge.

Sure, you could seal a container and there would be no smell for the dogs. You could take a 30 gal plastic drum (or smaller for a child that small) maybe 15 gal - seal it and cover it with lime and grass fertilizer.  I found it very strange that George was liming and fertilizing his yard for two days recently.

I don't know if it would fool the "cadaver sniffer" from the Body Farm though. I have picked up just bones from Indian burial grounds hundreds of years ago buried. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 07, 2008, 12:32:20 AM
Daryl,

do you know if there are any materials, chemicals that can sabotage cadaver dogs from detecting the decomposition smells.  Like if a body was 6 feet underground in the middle of a 9' x 14' area inside a hard plastic storage container lidded & then bungie corded having the hole surrounded with such a sabotaging material?

I so need some guidance, this is driving me over the edge.

Sure, you could seal a container and there would be no smell for the dogs. You could take a 30 gal plastic drum (or smaller for a child that small) maybe 15 gal - seal it and cover it with lime and grass fertilizer.  I found it very strange that George was liming and fertilizing his yard for two days recently.

I don't know if it would fool the "cadaver sniffer" from the Body Farm though. I have picked up just bones from Indian burial grounds hundreds of years ago buried. 

I meant "IT".........not I...........LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 12:32:22 AM
I wonder if LE (or maybe even LP) have bugged the inside of the house.  They have done that before here in Florida with the missing Eisenberg baby,

Anybody?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 12:33:51 AM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

No kidding.  I wouldn't sleep in that house until I installed an industrial size deadbolt on my bedroom door.

That would mean that the area TES is searching now won't produce Caylee. Unless Casey just meant to infer that she was in the Orlando vicinity vs out of state. I'm beginning to think that maybe LP is right on that point. Maybe the flurry of calls really was to establish where everyone was so she could go home unhindered. She got the shovel from the neighbor when she asked, right? The pings took place before she borrowed it, right? How long did she have it? I'll go find these answers, I was just hoping someone might remember. TIA!  ::MonkeyWink::

The neighbor said that Casey borrowed the shovel for aprox. 45 min to one hr.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:34:36 AM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

No kidding.  I wouldn't sleep in that house until I installed an industrial size deadbolt on my bedroom door.

That would mean that the area TES is searching now won't produce Caylee. Unless Casey just meant to infer that she was in the Orlando vicinity vs out of state. I'm beginning to think that maybe LP is right on that point. Maybe the flurry of calls really was to establish where everyone was so she could go home unhindered. She got the shovel from the neighbor when she asked, right? The pings took place before she borrowed it, right? How long did she have it? I'll go find these answers, I was just hoping someone might remember. TIA!  ::MonkeyWink::

Nevermind. June16 were the calls, and June 18 was when she borrowed the shovel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:35:16 AM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

No kidding.  I wouldn't sleep in that house until I installed an industrial size deadbolt on my bedroom door.

That would mean that the area TES is searching now won't produce Caylee. Unless Casey just meant to infer that she was in the Orlando vicinity vs out of state. I'm beginning to think that maybe LP is right on that point. Maybe the flurry of calls really was to establish where everyone was so she could go home unhindered. She got the shovel from the neighbor when she asked, right? The pings took place before she borrowed it, right? How long did she have it? I'll go find these answers, I was just hoping someone might remember. TIA!  ::MonkeyWink::

The neighbor said that Casey borrowed the shovel for aprox. 45 min to one hr.

THANK YOU, Mammy!!!!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 07, 2008, 12:36:52 AM


Trying to get caught up so if this has been addressed, sorry.  I thought Cindy told Greta that the dogs had an "inconsistent" hit on the pavers. And then Cindy questioned (maybe somewhere else) if sweat or blood on the pavers would cause the dog to alert because George had sweat and bled while putting in those pavers.  Anyone else remember any of this? 

[/quote]

What Cindy said and what LE said was two different things. First of all, cadaver dogs don't hit on sweat or blood. The only way they would "hit" those is if the person was dead when those dropped on the soil.  Second Cindy said they got inconsistent readings. Two dogs, both from different trainers HIT the same spots. She is a LIAR - and was caught in those lies on the spot.

She was VERY nervous when they were in that back yard, and she talked about moving the bush and the box.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: cecilita on September 07, 2008, 12:36:58 AM
I wonder if LE (or maybe even LP) have bugged the inside of the house.  They have done that before here in Florida with the missing Eisenberg baby,

Anybody?
I do not know. But if the dogs didn't hit inside the house maybe is because Caylee was killed somewhere else.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 07, 2008, 12:39:38 AM
I wonder if LE (or maybe even LP) have bugged the inside of the house.  They have done that before here in Florida with the missing Eisenberg baby,

Anybody?
I do not know. But if the dogs didn't hit inside the house maybe is because Caylee was killed somewhere else.

I don't remember anything being said about them checking inside the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Altruist on September 07, 2008, 12:40:26 AM
Daryl,

do you know if there are any materials, chemicals that can sabotage cadaver dogs from detecting the decomposition smells.  Like if a body was 6 feet underground in the middle of a 9' x 14' area inside a hard plastic storage container lidded & then bungie corded having the hole surrounded with such a sabotaging material?

I so need some guidance, this is driving me over the edge.

Sure, you could seal a container and there would be no smell for the dogs. You could take a 30 gal plastic drum (or smaller for a child that small) maybe 15 gal - seal it and cover it with lime and grass fertilizer.  I found it very strange that George was liming and fertilizing his yard for two days recently.

I don't know if it would fool the "cadaver sniffer" from the Body Farm though. I have picked up just bones from Indian burial grounds hundreds of years ago buried. 

I'm with you, I really do think there is a strong possibility that Caylee is on that property under that paver patio where the grill is placed, the possible hits were explainable away but I feel placed to distract, & the pavers under the play house, the same thing.  The actions appear to have been taken for deceitful purposes.  Put the pavers down for the appearance that they are new so the above may have been done, if LE's timeline is off then they don't realize that placement under the large area could have been easily done & undetectable to the eye.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 12:41:08 AM
I wonder if LE (or maybe even LP) have bugged the inside of the house.  They have done that before here in Florida with the missing Eisenberg baby,

Anybody?
I do not know. But if the dogs didn't hit inside the house maybe is because Caylee was killed somewhere else.

I don't remember anything being said about them checking inside the house.

No I am saying bugged as in being recorded.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 07, 2008, 12:42:30 AM
Quote from: crazybabyborg
Nevermind. June16 were the calls, and June 18 was when she borrowed the shovel
[/quote

Borrowing that shovel has ALWAYS intrigued me.......WHY if George was such a "YARD WORKER" would there not be a shovel at their house? Could their shovel already have been GONE and Casey was LOOKING for the body, not going to bury it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 12:42:37 AM
Klaas - My moonkey is cute too! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:42:38 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

One last question.........do we know what time she borrowed the shovel on the 18th for about an hour?

I think that might dictate the radius of where Caylee is established by constraints of time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:44:42 AM
Quote from: crazybabyborg
Nevermind. June16 were the calls, and June 18 was when she borrowed the shovel
[/quote

Borrowing that shovel has ALWAYS intrigued me.......WHY if George was such a "YARD WORKER" would there not be a shovel at their house? Could their shovel already have been GONE and Casey was LOOKING for the body, not going to bury it?

My mind is gone, Turbo, but I think Greta asked Cindy if they didn't own a shovel and Cindy responded that the shed was locked. Don't count that as gospel, but I seem to remember that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: AzGrama on September 07, 2008, 12:45:22 AM


Trying to get caught up so if this has been addressed, sorry.  I thought Cindy told Greta that the dogs had an "inconsistent" hit on the pavers. And then Cindy questioned (maybe somewhere else) if sweat or blood on the pavers would cause the dog to alert because George had sweat and bled while putting in those pavers.  Anyone else remember any of this? 


What Cindy said and what LE said was two different things. First of all, cadaver dogs don't hit on sweat or blood. The only way they would "hit" those is if the person was dead when those dropped on the soil.  Second Cindy said they got inconsistent readings. Two dogs, both from different trainers HIT the same spots. She is a LIAR - and was caught in those lies on the spot.

She was VERY nervous when they were in that back yard, and she talked about moving the bush and the box.....
[/quote]

Thanks, you're right.  I couldnt remember exactly but knew what Cindy was saying didn't make sense, just a feeble attempt to explain why the dogs hit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 07, 2008, 12:52:40 AM
I could be wrong on this but Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, I thought hyphenated last names meant Fernandez was her maiden name and Gonzales would be her married name.  If this is true her sister's name should be Samantha Fernandez (if single) or Samantha (Married Name).  I guess she could be Samantha Gonzales if she also married a Gonzales.  Not sure of this, just pondering.
Spanish people like me. We have 2 last names, fernandez and Gonzales are last names.
The first last name is the father last name and the second is the mother last name.

Thanks for the info, cecilita, I didn't know that, I have a friend in South America, and she is the opposite, when she got married, her Mother's maiden name, became her middle name


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 12:57:14 AM
CBB, I believe the neighbor gave a time for the shovel.  I believe it was in his statement to LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:58:04 AM
OK, that gave me the creeps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUd4k86EMEM&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUd4k86EMEM&NR=1)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: AzGrama on September 07, 2008, 12:58:48 AM
I could be wrong on this but Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, I thought hyphenated last names meant Fernandez was her maiden name and Gonzales would be her married name.  If this is true her sister's name should be Samantha Fernandez (if single) or Samantha (Married Name).  I guess she could be Samantha Gonzales if she also married a Gonzales.  Not sure of this, just pondering.
Spanish people like me. We have 2 last names, fernandez and Gonzales are last names.
The first last name is the father last name and the second is the mother last name.

Cecilita, thanks for explaining that.  Help me with this, please.  If a woman marries, does she take her husbands last name?  Would she then have 3 last names?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Altruist on September 07, 2008, 12:59:03 AM
LOL, exactly, well she couldn't say well we planted decomposition for you  so that when you dug there would be nothing there.  Dirty pool, foolled on you, SEE we're so smart & you're so dumb.

Distraction is very alive & well here.  The whole "keeping up appearances" gave them unfortunately a leg up on LE.  They were taken to be co operating, that they were decent law abiding people who had a serious problem child.  Everything has been done to dishonor LE & perpetrate their fraud.

Even if accidental, they spun on the dime.  Oh gee, we can't afford a decent burial, what are we going to do?  (lightbulb) well we'll make a decent coffin that can conceal her bury her, shed a few tears & then make up a fantastic sensational story that will make us millions.

This crew is revolting & my prayers are for OCSO to see the situation & STOP it.  If OCSO fails, we will se this duplicated purposely, which I am still not convinced that this wasn't done purposely.  Would have a hard time believing that the deception wasn't due to foul play.

Have seen murder done for financial gain way too many times.  It is blatent HERE.

This crew of deviants are just so certain that Caylee will not be located & their actions dealt with severely.  They have stories to tell, for everything & were looking for total immunity right from the beginning as they posed for the camera's.  This has to be dealt with in the most severe manner, there is a lot at stake for other's safety.  They deserve no benefit of decency as their actions scream of what took place here & if go unpunished will scream to others of the opportunities that such actions present.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:02:13 AM
Klaas - My moonkey is cute too! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Yes, it is!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 01:04:09 AM
Does law enforcement still have Caseys car?  Since the Anthony arses wont give TES something for the dogs that was Caylees, I wonder if there is something still in the car with her scent on it  like the car seat cover.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: NaNaPenny63 on September 07, 2008, 01:06:18 AM
OK, that gave me the creeps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUd4k86EMEM&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUd4k86EMEM&NR=1)
ugh i gots weebie geebies on that one eeek cold chills  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:07:28 AM
Klaas - My moonkey is cute too! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Yes, it is!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

thank you, we feel better now!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 07, 2008, 01:08:58 AM


Trying to get caught up so if this has been addressed, sorry.  I thought Cindy told Greta that the dogs had an "inconsistent" hit on the pavers. And then Cindy questioned (maybe somewhere else) if sweat or blood on the pavers would cause the dog to alert because George had sweat and bled while putting in those pavers.  Anyone else remember any of this? 


What Cindy said and what LE said was two different things. First of all, cadaver dogs don't hit on sweat or blood. The only way they would "hit" those is if the person was dead when those dropped on the soil.  Second Cindy said they got inconsistent readings. Two dogs, both from different trainers HIT the same spots. She is a LIAR - and was caught in those lies on the spot.

She was VERY nervous when they were in that back yard, and she talked about moving the bush and the box.....
[/quote]

yea, I remember that too, and thinking she was already laying down a story that would give George and her a reason to do more "landscaping" without drawing attention...Cindy said something to Greta as soon as they went out back....like we have a lot of fixing up to do (can't remember her exact words) but she wanted to get that info out there ASAP....red flag for me....JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 07, 2008, 01:11:26 AM
Does law enforcement still have Caseys car?  Since the Anthony arses wont give TES something for the dogs that was Caylees, I wonder if there is something still in the car with her scent on it  like the car seat cover.

Unfortunately everything from the car is "evidence" and probably can't be released. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:12:47 AM
Nobody even bothered reporting this  ::MonkeyWaa::
Oldest Gorilla In Captivity Dies In Dallas
Jenny, 55, Had Inoperable Brain Tumor

POSTED: 4:22 pm EDT September 5, 2008


DALLAS -- Jenny, the oldest living gorilla in captivity, has passed away at the age of 55 from an inoperable tumor.

The tumor, which was located in her stomach, had begun to interfere with her eating and drinking, reported KXAS-TV in Dallas. Jenny had not been eating normally and had recently been showing signs of dehydration, despite attempts to provide her with food and liquids.

Jenny lived at the Dallas Zoo for more than 50 years and was one of only four gorillas over the age of 50 in North American zoos.

"She touched so many people's lives and helped them appreciate this endangered species," said Chuck Siegel, the zoo's deputy director for animal management. "Her longevity is a testament to the outstanding animal care that the Dallas Zoo provides for wildlife. Her legacy will live on through our commitment to educating the public about the importance of gorilla conservation and continuing our efforts to protect gorillas in the wild."

The Western lowland gorilla received national attention this spring as she celebrated her 55th birthday with Dallas Zoo staff, volunteers and many of her fans.

"We were fortunate to have the opportunity to celebrate her 55th birthday with several generations of staff, volunteers and zoo supporters," said Todd Bowsher, curator of mammals in the Wilds of Africa. "So many people reminisced about seeing Jenny during their childhood and brought their children back to meet her for the party. We had a tough time saying goodbye."

According to global animal records managed through the International Species Information System, Jenny was the oldest gorilla ever to be documented on ISIS records. More than 700 institutions around the world report their collection to ISIS.
Distributed by Internet Broadcasting. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 01:18:26 AM
Nobody even bothered reporting this  ::MonkeyWaa::
Oldest Gorilla In Captivity Dies In Dallas
Jenny, 55, Had Inoperable Brain Tumor

POSTED: 4:22 pm EDT September 5, 2008


DALLAS -- Jenny, the oldest living gorilla in captivity, has passed away at the age of 55 from an inoperable tumor.

The tumor, which was located in her stomach, had begun to interfere with her eating and drinking, reported KXAS-TV in Dallas. Jenny had not been eating normally and had recently been showing signs of dehydration, despite attempts to provide her with food and liquids.

Jenny lived at the Dallas Zoo for more than 50 years and was one of only four gorillas over the age of 50 in North American zoos.

"She touched so many people's lives and helped them appreciate this endangered species," said Chuck Siegel, the zoo's deputy director for animal management. "Her longevity is a testament to the outstanding animal care that the Dallas Zoo provides for wildlife. Her legacy will live on through our commitment to educating the public about the importance of gorilla conservation and continuing our efforts to protect gorillas in the wild."

The Western lowland gorilla received national attention this spring as she celebrated her 55th birthday with Dallas Zoo staff, volunteers and many of her fans.

"We were fortunate to have the opportunity to celebrate her 55th birthday with several generations of staff, volunteers and zoo supporters," said Todd Bowsher, curator of mammals in the Wilds of Africa. "So many people reminisced about seeing Jenny during their childhood and brought their children back to meet her for the party. We had a tough time saying goodbye."

According to global animal records managed through the International Species Information System, Jenny was the oldest gorilla ever to be documented on ISIS records. More than 700 institutions around the world report their collection to ISIS.
Distributed by Internet Broadcasting. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed


I grew up in the DFW area and have been to the Dallas zoo many times and probably saw this ape...aawwweee how sad!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 01:21:34 AM
CBB, I believe the neighbor gave a time for the shovel.  I believe it was in his statement to LE.

Yes, mammy. If memory serves me correctly, the shovel was borrowed
from neighbor Mr. Burns, she returned it within 1 hour.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 07, 2008, 01:22:18 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

One last question.........do we know what time she borrowed the shovel on the 18th for about an hour?

I think that might dictate the radius of where Caylee is established by constraints of time.


CBB, I didn't see it anywhere in the documents


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 01:23:44 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 01:31:50 AM
OK, that gave me the creeps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUd4k86EMEM&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUd4k86EMEM&NR=1)
very creepy .... I only watched a bit of it and that was enough   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 01:32:43 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

One last question.........do we know what time she borrowed the shovel on the 18th for about an hour?

I think that might dictate the radius of where Caylee is established by constraints of time.


CBB, I didn't see it anywhere in the documents


Brian Burner said he was pretty sure it was 2:30 pm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 01:34:41 AM
...and I think 2:30p was the time that she returned it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 01:35:26 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

One last question.........do we know what time she borrowed the shovel on the 18th for about an hour?

I think that might dictate the radius of where Caylee is established by constraints of time.


CBB, I didn't see it anywhere in the documents


Brian Burner said he was pretty sure it was 2:30 pm.

Thank you Carpe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 01:40:24 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

One last question.........do we know what time she borrowed the shovel on the 18th for about an hour?

I think that might dictate the radius of where Caylee is established by constraints of time.


CBB, I didn't see it anywhere in the documents


Brian Burner said he was pretty sure it was 2:30 pm.

returned shovel

PDF 2 / page 163

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/hjjhjhjhjhjk.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 01:41:23 AM
You're welcome, Mammy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:42:09 AM
I do think that OCSO made a huge mistake by not impounding her car right away.
Gives Baez some room to poke some holes in their theory.  None that will stick, but still. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 07, 2008, 01:42:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCabnKbzkew&feature=related


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2008, 01:42:50 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.

... and what would explain Casey searching the internet in regards to "chloroform" in the month her daughter was missing.

Janet

+++++++

Sedating Chemical Found In Casey Anthony's Car
Evidence Collected From Caylee Anthony Searchers

POSTED: 7:14 am EDT September 3, 2008
UPDATED: 5:12 pm EDT September 3, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- ... sources told WESH 2 the level of chloroform in her car was "suspiciously high" and that her computer confiscated within hours of her July arrest, show visits to Web sites with information on chloroform.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html


5 Ways to Clean Up A DNA Sample

One of the most common tasks in molecular biology is cleaning up DNA from aqueous solutions to remove buffer salts, enzymes or other substances that could affect downstream applications. Examples include cleaning up PCR reactions, digests or other enzymatic treatments and cleaning up genomic or plasmid DNA contaminated with cellular proteins/debris. There are several ways to approach DNA clean-up, here are five of them.

1. Phenol/Chloroform extraction

Phenol chloroform extraction (see Kirby, 1957), normally followed by ethanol precipitation, is the traditional method to remove protein from a DNA sample. In this procedure, the DNA solution is mixed with phenol and chloroform. The water-soluble DNA partitions into the aqueous phase, while the proteins are denatured by the organic solvents and stay in the organic phase. The aqueous phase containing the protein-free DNA can then be collected.

Advantages: A cheap and effective way to remove proteins from DNA solutions. ...

http://bitesizebio.com/2007/10/25/5-ways-to-clean-up-a-dna-sample/




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on September 07, 2008, 01:44:12 AM
I know people disagree, but I think bringing toddlers to this sort of protest is uncalled for not to mention how late it is! Its not a parade and I'm sure they are not talking about knitting classes. Do these little ones really need to hear baby killer talk?
grrrrrrrrrrrrr

I totally agree and said yesterday they are just as bad as the Anthonys submitting the kids to the that.
I haven't said to much about this fact but you are right I was just telling my husband why aren't these kids in bed you could see on the stream that it was after 10pm and kids along with teens were out on weeknights as well as weekends.  I don't think the kids should be subject to this all..it really is a dangerous place as we have seen with the Anthony's temper along with the neighbors now getting into fights.  Just my two cents I felt that I needed to just get it out.  Thanks for listening!  Now lets just bring this baby home!  Crazy as this family is it's not right to just leave her without the people or place that she known all her life


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2008, 01:45:14 AM
Good Night All

Janet
10:45 PM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TURBOTHINK on September 07, 2008, 01:45:27 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.

... and what would explain Casey searching the internet in regards to "chloroform" in the month her daughter was missing.

Janet

+++++++

Sedating Chemical Found In Casey Anthony's Car
Evidence Collected From Caylee Anthony Searchers

POSTED: 7:14 am EDT September 3, 2008
UPDATED: 5:12 pm EDT September 3, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- ... sources told WESH 2 the level of chloroform in her car was "suspiciously high" and that her computer confiscated within hours of her July arrest, show visits to Web sites with information on chloroform.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html


5 Ways to Clean Up A DNA Sample

One of the most common tasks in molecular biology is cleaning up DNA from aqueous solutions to remove buffer salts, enzymes or other substances that could affect downstream applications. Examples include cleaning up PCR reactions, digests or other enzymatic treatments and cleaning up genomic or plasmid DNA contaminated with cellular proteins/debris. There are several ways to approach DNA clean-up, here are five of them.

1. Phenol/Chloroform extraction

Phenol chloroform extraction (see Kirby, 1957), normally followed by ethanol precipitation, is the traditional method to remove protein from a DNA sample. In this procedure, the DNA solution is mixed with phenol and chloroform. The water-soluble DNA partitions into the aqueous phase, while the proteins are denatured by the organic solvents and stay in the organic phase. The aqueous phase containing the protein-free DNA can then be collected.

Advantages: A cheap and effective way to remove proteins from DNA solutions. ...

http://bitesizebio.com/2007/10/25/5-ways-to-clean-up-a-dna-sample/


1. Phenol/Chloroform extraction

That procedure is done in a lab under very controlled circumstances, not in the trunk of a car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:47:37 AM
I know that this will not be a popular post:

But I think (hope and pray) that Caylee's death was a tragic accident and Casey just plain freaked out and then tried to cover it up with the lies, the chloroform, etc.

But why would she be so afraid to call her 911.  Hmmm?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 01:48:45 AM
You're welcome, Mammy!


Carpe  - Just thinking .... If Caylee's body was anywhere at one time in the Anthony backyard ... would not their own Dogs * their two little dog's be set off on that. Not as in a K-9 trained, but Just being a Dog.
Knowing Caylee's scent and naturally sniffing. I know I had to bury a baby squirrel * so sad. And my Neighbors Cat dug it up.  Not comparing Caylee to a squirrel ..but you get my thoughts ...
What about George's dogs ??? hmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:51:01 AM
You're welcome, Mammy!


Carpe  - Just thinking .... If Caylee's body was anywhere at one time in the Anthony backyard ... would not their own Dogs * their two little dog's be set off on that. Not as in a K-9 trained, but Just being a Dog.
Knowing Caylee's scent and naturally sniffing. I know I had to bury a baby squirrel * so sad. And my Neighbors Cat dug it up.  Not comparing Caylee to a squirrel ..but you get my thoughts ...
What about George's dogs ??? hmm


That's probably one of the reasons why she had to have moved her.  But I do believe she is "close to home."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:52:56 AM
Klaas - are you still here?  I miss "crazylove!"  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 07, 2008, 01:53:04 AM
I know that this will not be a popular post:

But I think (hope and pray) that Caylee's death was a tragic accident and Casey just plain freaked out and then tried to cover it up with the lies, the chloroform, etc.

But why would she be so afraid to call her 911.  Hmmm?

Accident or not she is still known for her lying..I hope caylee is alive. I know in my heart that's not gonna happen and if it does  children and family services need to take that child from all of them...I just don't know why her attorney would ask for immunity before talking to her or did she just change her mind after her arrest?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 01:54:23 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.

... and what would explain Casey searching the internet in regards to "chloroform" in the month her daughter was missing.

Janet

+++++++

Sedating Chemical Found In Casey Anthony's Car
Evidence Collected From Caylee Anthony Searchers

POSTED: 7:14 am EDT September 3, 2008
UPDATED: 5:12 pm EDT September 3, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- ... sources told WESH 2 the level of chloroform in her car was "suspiciously high" and that her computer confiscated within hours of her July arrest, show visits to Web sites with information on chloroform.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17377729/detail.html


5 Ways to Clean Up A DNA Sample

One of the most common tasks in molecular biology is cleaning up DNA from aqueous solutions to remove buffer salts, enzymes or other substances that could affect downstream applications. Examples include cleaning up PCR reactions, digests or other enzymatic treatments and cleaning up genomic or plasmid DNA contaminated with cellular proteins/debris. There are several ways to approach DNA clean-up, here are five of them.

1. Phenol/Chloroform extraction

Phenol chloroform extraction (see Kirby, 1957), normally followed by ethanol precipitation, is the traditional method to remove protein from a DNA sample. In this procedure, the DNA solution is mixed with phenol and chloroform. The water-soluble DNA partitions into the aqueous phase, while the proteins are denatured by the organic solvents and stay in the organic phase. The aqueous phase containing the protein-free DNA can then be collected.

Advantages: A cheap and effective way to remove proteins from DNA solutions. ...

http://bitesizebio.com/2007/10/25/5-ways-to-clean-up-a-dna-sample/


1. Phenol/Chloroform extraction

That procedure is done in a lab under very controlled circumstances, not in the trunk of a car.

Maybe it was a combination of the pool chlorine and then trying to cover up the dna would explain the high amount they found.  I guess I just keep thinking the pool is involved somehow with the dogs hitting on the backyard and the ladder being moved and some other stuff.  But the internet search on chloroform bugs me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:54:56 AM
I know that this will not be a popular post:

But I think (hope and pray) that Caylee's death was a tragic accident and Casey just plain freaked out and then tried to cover it up with the lies, the chloroform, etc.

But why would she be so afraid to call her 911.  Hmmm?

Accident or not she is still known for her lying..I hope caylee is alive. I know in my heart that's not gonna happen and if it does  children and family services need to take that child from all of them...I just don't know why her attorney would ask for immunity before talking to her or did she just change her mind after her arrest?

I think he has been setting up defense all along.  He knows she is not alive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:55:29 AM
Klaas - are you still here?  I miss "crazylove!"  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm about ready to call it a night, LOL....OMG, no I don't miss Crazylove  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 01:57:04 AM
Klaas - are you still here?  I miss "crazylove!"  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm about ready to call it a night, LOL....OMG, no I don't miss Crazylove  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nite Klaas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 07, 2008, 01:57:29 AM
Did anyone notice in the 400 pages released that casey lies were based on alot of her friends info..I also found it funny in the pages that amy's last name in the transcript she spelt it and i wondered if casey got zenieda from amy's last name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 01:57:38 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

One last question.........do we know what time she borrowed the shovel on the 18th for about an hour?

I think that might dictate the radius of where Caylee is established by constraints of time.


CBB, I didn't see it anywhere in the documents


Brian Burner said he was pretty sure it was 2:30 pm.

returned shovel

PDF 2 / page 163

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/hjjhjhjhjhjk.png)

Thanks guys!! Sorry, I was on another thread.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 01:59:39 AM
You're welcome, Mammy!


Carpe  - Just thinking .... If Caylee's body was anywhere at one time in the Anthony backyard ... would not their own Dogs * their two little dog's be set off on that. Not as in a K-9 trained, but Just being a Dog.
Knowing Caylee's scent and naturally sniffing. I know I had to bury a baby squirrel * so sad. And my Neighbors Cat dug it up.  Not comparing Caylee to a squirrel ..but you get my thoughts ...
What about George's dogs ??? hmm

That's probably one of the reasons why she had to have moved her.  But I do believe she is "close to home."
yes I think she is too. And Yah I would think that the family dogs would acknowledge something wrong and a smell in the yard...........ahhhh lord. Makes my guts churn.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 02:00:54 AM
Cindy told Greta that they had kids use their pool without their permission.  Kids don't care if there is ladder there or not.  It's called pool hopping and not too many kids go behind a wooden fence with barking dogs to wake up the owners. She mumbled here way throught that one.
Red flag of a lie.

Can you tell I am a reformed pool hopper?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:01:44 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 02:04:05 AM
Klaas - are you still here?  I miss "crazylove!"  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm about ready to call it a night, LOL....OMG, no I don't miss Crazylove  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nite Klaas!

Good night.  We all need to sleep with one open, Casey is free. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 02:04:44 AM
You're welcome, Mammy!


Carpe  - Just thinking .... If Caylee's body was anywhere at one time in the Anthony backyard ... would not their own Dogs * their two little dog's be set off on that. Not as in a K-9 trained, but Just being a Dog.
Knowing Caylee's scent and naturally sniffing. I know I had to bury a baby squirrel * so sad. And my Neighbors Cat dug it up.  Not comparing Caylee to a squirrel ..but you get my thoughts ...
What about George's dogs ??? hmm


Yeah, Tinker and Tilly would have tried to dig her up. I think she was back there
briefly while Casey made other more permanent plans. imo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 02:04:51 AM
Klaas - are you still here?  I miss "crazylove!"  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I'm about ready to call it a night, LOL....OMG, no I don't miss Crazylove  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nite Klaas!

Good night.  We all need to sleep with one open, Casey is free. ::MonkeyWink::

oops I mean one eye open.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 02:05:51 AM
Cindy told Greta that they had kids use their pool without their permission.  Kids don't care if there is ladder there or not.  It's called pool hopping and not too many kids go behind a wooden fence with barking dogs to wake up the owners. She mumbled here way throught that one.
Red flag of a lie.

Can you tell I am a reformed pool hopper?
Cindy stating she does not care who enters her yard/pool without permission- that's a crock. She is a Control Freak for One. A Nurse Second and should know better. And third she would be liable if any child was hurt.   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 02:06:23 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

That is what I would think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:06:39 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

If the above is correct, that doesn't leave much time to bury Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 02:08:18 AM
Jesse Grund says Casey and Cindy had a "falling out."


PDF 1 page #44

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dfgdfy67556.png)


Link:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dfgdfy67556.png


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:11:05 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

If the above is correct, that doesn't leave much time to bury Caylee.

Isn't that the same day that Casey backed her car into the garage?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:11:36 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

If the above is correct, that doesn't leave much time to bury Caylee.

Isn't that the same day that Casey backed her car into the garage?

Yes, it is, Mammy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:13:15 AM
Jesse Grund says Casey and Cindy had a "falling out."


PDF 1 page #44

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dfgdfy67556.png)


Link:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dfgdfy67556.png

Would LE be able to determine what day the pics were deleted, Carpe? Thanks for posting that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 02:14:43 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

If the above is correct, that doesn't leave much time to bury Caylee.
I am sorry to make anyone repeat over and over ...but
Was this before or after cement pouring time. I do not recall the date of the new cement. I would think the ground would have to be prepped in some way. I would not think you would just Pour the cement on the ground wet to dry. Would there have been soft ground ready when she borrowed the shovel?
 Did George buy the Cement? If they hired anyone to pour it that would be Stupid.
And I thought George had a Blown out knee and was not able to work.
Padilla said on NG the other night * George's Bday* He said ( Assumed) George was at Work when Baez was in the House with Casey behind closed doors * confidential client yadda ( He assumed) Cindy Making Dinner ( He Assumed)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:14:53 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

If the above is correct, that doesn't leave much time to bury Caylee.

Isn't that the same day that Casey backed her car into the garage?

Yes, it is, Mammy.

Thank you.  Do we know the aprox time she backed into the garage?  I have probably heard, but don't remember.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 02:15:48 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

If the above is correct, that doesn't leave much time to bury Caylee.
I am sorry to make anyone repeat over and over ...but
Was this before or after cement pouring time. I do not recall the date of the new cement. I would think the ground would have to be prepped in some way. I would not think you would just Pour the cement on the ground wet to dry. Would there have been soft ground ready when she borrowed the shovel?
 Did George buy the Cement? If they hired anyone to pour it that would be Stupid.
And I thought George had a Blown out knee and was not able to work.
Padilla said on NG the other night * George's Bday* He said ( Assumed) George was at Work when Baez was in the House with Casey behind closed doors * confidential client yadda ( He assumed) Cindy Making Dinner ( He Assumed) *** Is George Employed ???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 02:16:09 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

If the above is correct, that doesn't leave much time to bury Caylee.

another reason I think she is close to home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 02:17:55 AM
Jesse Grund says Casey and Cindy had a "falling out."


PDF 1 page #44

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dfgdfy67556.png)


Link:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dfgdfy67556.png

Would LE be able to determine what day the pics were deleted, Carpe? Thanks for posting that!

OH yes - date and time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 02:19:34 AM
Jesse Grund says Casey and Cindy had a "falling out."


PDF 1 page #44

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dfgdfy67556.png)


Link:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dfgdfy67556.png

Would LE be able to determine what day the pics were deleted, Carpe? Thanks for posting that!

Oh yes, I am sure they have had that info for awhile. They don't play

games like Case-face!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:20:07 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 02:20:38 AM
6/18  Unanswered phone calls:
         12:33 PM – Mom home
         12:34 PM – Mom cell
         12:35 PM – Mom home
         12:36 PM – Dad cell
          1:09 PM – Mom cell
          1:11 PM – Mom home

So we know she returned the shovel at 2:30?

If she had the shovel for 45 min to an hour, then she got the shovel @ apprx. 1:30, right?

If the above is correct, that doesn't leave much time to bury Caylee.

Isn't that the same day that Casey backed her car into the garage?

Yes, it is, Mammy.

I don't think she was calling them for help, I think she was tring to find out where they were.  If the coast was clear to go to the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 02:22:30 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.

Normal people use sand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:23:50 AM
Glad to hear it, MyTime and Carpe!  ::MonkeyDance::

I don't think there's any question that Caylee is close to home if she disposed of Caylee that day! AND, why back into the garage if Caylee were in the trunk unless she intended to get her out.

Well...........maybe she was figuring on having to open the trunk to put the shovel in?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 02:24:01 AM
Good night every one - my head and eyes are like  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:24:37 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think LE checked those pavers.

Do you remember the date when the car was left at Amscot?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:25:13 AM
Good night every one - my head and eyes are like  ::MonkeyConfused::

Nite mytime!!!!! Sleep Well!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on September 07, 2008, 02:25:14 AM
You know something that's been on my mind awhile now along with other things but my main thing that I was hoping you all could speculate as I have is WHO say's exactly how many days..wouldn't it be "she's been missing for a month"  Doesn't that sound like normal speech pattern?  Just something that's been in the back of my head the "31 days" thing just never seemed right.  Hope you all can understand I'm thinking and trying to type it not sure if it's coming out right but if so anyone else have an opinion on the days vs month in a speech pattern?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: AzGrama on September 07, 2008, 02:26:13 AM
Several pages back someone (sorry, don't remember who) asked for a link to the first bond hearing testimony.

http://elfninosmom.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/caylee-anthony-courtroom-video-from-bond-hearing/

this has testimony for Cindy, George, Lee and Det. Melich.  The one for Cindy is kind of sputtery for the first few minutes, with a few black spots, actually one kind of long black spot, but hang in there and it smoothes out with no further problem.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:26:59 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think LE checked those pavers.

Do you remember the date when the car was left at Amscot?

June 27


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:28:35 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think LE checked those pavers.

Do you remember the date when the car was left at Amscot?

June 27

Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:29:30 AM
You know something that's been on my mind awhile now along with other things but my main thing that I was hoping you all could speculate as I have is WHO say's exactly how many days..wouldn't it be "she's been missing for a month"  Doesn't that sound like normal speech pattern?  Just something that's been in the back of my head the "31 days" thing just never seemed right.  Hope you all can understand I'm thinking and trying to type it not sure if it's coming out right but if so anyone else have an opinion on the days vs month in a speech pattern?

It seems rehearsed to me, but wouldn't you think if anyone went to the trouble of rehearsing, they'd get it str8 as to when anyone else had actually seen Caylee? It doesn't make sense to me either!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 02:30:49 AM
Hey,

Did you hear about that nut bar that planted the spy cam
with the live streaming internet video peeping
into the Anthony's window
tonight?

I'm tired too! Gonna go get some sleep and find the link
again in the morning.

G'night Monkeys! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 07, 2008, 02:31:55 AM
Source Claims New Slab Of Concrete Or Pavers Behind Anthony Home

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There is more mystery surrounding the backyard of the house owned by Caylee's grandparents. Deputies already dug up part of the yard after a dog sniffed the distinct smell of a dead body. Now, an inside source told Eyewitness News there may be a new concrete slab or pavers put in the yard since Caylee's disappearance.


http://www.wftv.com/news/16975536/detail.html






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:33:38 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think LE checked those pavers.

Do you remember the date when the car was left at Amscot?

June 27

Thank you.

You're welcome, Mammy! That would be 9 days from the 18th. It alsways made some sense to me that she was praying someone would steal the car or at least break into it. I think that's why there was a purse left in the seat. She wanted a crook's fingerprints on that car. I think she knew the forensics in the car would tell the tale, and she wanted to muddy the water.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:35:50 AM
Hey,

Did you hear about that nut bar that planted the spy cam
with the live streaming internet video peeping
into the Anthony's window
tonight?

I'm tired too! Gonna go get some sleep and find the link
again in the morning.

G'night Monkeys! ::MonkeyWink::

Good night Carpe, sweet dreams.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Rowanvamp0 on September 07, 2008, 02:35:56 AM
You know something that's been on my mind awhile now along with other things but my main thing that I was hoping you all could speculate as I have is WHO say's exactly how many days..wouldn't it be "she's been missing for a month"  Doesn't that sound like normal speech pattern?  Just something that's been in the back of my head the "31 days" thing just never seemed right.  Hope you all can understand I'm thinking and trying to type it not sure if it's coming out right but if so anyone else have an opinion on the days vs month in a speech pattern?

It seems rehearsed to me, but wouldn't you think if anyone went to the trouble of rehearsing, they'd get it str8 as to when anyone else had actually seen Caylee? It doesn't make sense to me either!
Rehearsed yes..that's more like it cause like I stated who says 31 days instead of saying been missing a month..just thinking of speech pattern and if it was rehearsed did she think that by saying how many days had passed that LE wouldn't care so much..I don't just further speculation maybe to much so.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 02:36:01 AM
Guys, I'm turning in as well. I'll see you tomorrow! God Bless!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 07, 2008, 02:37:04 AM
Source Claims New Slab Of Concrete Or Pavers Behind Anthony Home

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There is more mystery surrounding the backyard of the house owned by Caylee's grandparents. Deputies already dug up part of the yard after a dog sniffed the distinct smell of a dead body. Now, an inside source told Eyewitness News there may be a new concrete slab or pavers put in the yard since Caylee's disappearance.


http://www.wftv.com/news/16975536/detail.html




According to the paper this article was updated, on  July 24th







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:38:19 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think LE checked those pavers.

Do you remember the date when the car was left at Amscot?

June 27

Thank you.

You're welcome, Mammy! That would be 9 days from the 18th. It alsways made some sense to me that she was praying someone would steal the car or at least break into it. I think that's why there was a purse left in the seat. She wanted a crook's fingerprints on that car. I think she knew the forensics in the car would tell the tale, and she wanted to muddy the water.

I agree.  Either Casey or George set the car scene.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:39:17 AM
Source Claims New Slab Of Concrete Or Pavers Behind Anthony Home

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There is more mystery surrounding the backyard of the house owned by Caylee's grandparents. Deputies already dug up part of the yard after a dog sniffed the distinct smell of a dead body. Now, an inside source told Eyewitness News there may be a new concrete slab or pavers put in the yard since Caylee's disappearance.


http://www.wftv.com/news/16975536/detail.html




According to the paper this article was updated, on  July 24th






Nothing would surprise me in this case!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: FLGrammy on September 07, 2008, 02:40:53 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think LE checked those pavers.

Do you remember the date when the car was left at Amscot?

June 27

Thank you.

You're welcome, Mammy! That would be 9 days from the 18th. It alsways made some sense to me that she was praying someone would steal the car or at least break into it. I think that's why there was a purse left in the seat. She wanted a crook's fingerprints on that car. I think she knew the forensics in the car would tell the tale, and she wanted to muddy the water.

I thought that Casey also left the keys in the ignition, but I'm too tired to read through those docs again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 02:42:59 AM
Source Claims New Slab Of Concrete Or Pavers Behind Anthony Home

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There is more mystery surrounding the backyard of the house owned by Caylee's grandparents. Deputies already dug up part of the yard after a dog sniffed the distinct smell of a dead body. Now, an inside source told Eyewitness News there may be a new concrete slab or pavers put in the yard since Caylee's disappearance.


http://www.wftv.com/news/16975536/detail.html


I just read that " Thank you" for the Link. You notice Cindy is always playing on Words. She states they can tear the house down ..dig a big hole .... Caylee is not Here. Which is like telling the Truth in Cindy's Mind. " If Caylee was buried there at One Point" that was not the question, nor was it Cindy's direct answer. But if she knows where Caylee is " In essence her stating she is not Here" is a truthful statement for her.
Like George saying " Thats not My Grand Daughter's DNA found in the Trunk". Well Maybe that is True Statement in George's Mind, and its not his Grand Daughter but His Daughter.  I know its sick and its Mind Blowing to think but, I am not ruling out George being Caylee's Dad. 

Something is just so overtly WRONG with this Entire Family.  It shows in every way unimaginable  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:45:38 AM
I found a body one time in an enclosed car.  He had been there for aprox 8 or 9 hrs.  Six of those hrs was in 100 deg. temps.  Riga mortus(sp) had set, there was an odor, but nothing like what is being described in the Anthony car.

Apparently Caylee had been in that trunk for quite some time and/or retrieved from a grave after a length of time had lapsed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:48:39 AM
Source Claims New Slab Of Concrete Or Pavers Behind Anthony Home

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There is more mystery surrounding the backyard of the house owned by Caylee's grandparents. Deputies already dug up part of the yard after a dog sniffed the distinct smell of a dead body. Now, an inside source told Eyewitness News there may be a new concrete slab or pavers put in the yard since Caylee's disappearance.


http://www.wftv.com/news/16975536/detail.html


I just read that " Thank you" for the Link. You notice Cindy is always playing on Words. She states they can tear the house down ..dig a big hole .... Caylee is not Here. Which is like telling the Truth in Cindy's Mind. " If Caylee was buried there at One Point" that was not the question, nor was it Cindy's direct answer. But if she knows where Caylee is " In essence her stating she is not Here" is a truthful statement for her.
Like George saying " Thats not My Grand Daughter's DNA found in the Trunk". Well Maybe that is True Statement in George's Mind, and its not his Grand Daughter but His Daughter.  I know its sick and its Mind Blowing to think but, I am not ruling out George being Caylee's Dad. 

Something is just so overtly WRONG with this Entire Family.  It shows in every way unimaginable  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Yes that family is a piece of cake!  I also think that Lee or George could very well be Caylee's father.  Ohhhhh, how I hope I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 07, 2008, 02:50:02 AM
Family of Missing Toddler Caylee Anthony Mum on TV Reports of New Concrete Slab in Yard


The family of an Orlando toddler missing for more than a month won't answer questions about a tip that a new concrete slab was poured in the grandparents' backyard over July 4 weekend, shortly before they reported the child missing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390054,00.html



Well, Here's Cindy's Story about it   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 02:50:07 AM
I found a body one time in an enclosed car.  He had been there for aprox 8 or 9 hrs.  Six of those hrs was in 100 deg. temps.  Riga mortus(sp) had set, there was an odor, but nothing like what is being described in the Anthony car.

Apparently Caylee had been in that trunk for quite some time and/or retrieved from a grave after a length of time had lapsed.

Thats awful Mammy. I know when my Grandmother was terminally ill with Cancer, we brought her home to die with dignity. I slept next to her hospital bed in the house. I remember near her last days " The Smell" that was very heavy from her. It woke me up in the middle of the night it was so heavy and awful. I never want to smell that smell again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 07, 2008, 02:51:51 AM
Source Claims New Slab Of Concrete Or Pavers Behind Anthony Home

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There is more mystery surrounding the backyard of the house owned by Caylee's grandparents. Deputies already dug up part of the yard after a dog sniffed the distinct smell of a dead body. Now, an inside source told Eyewitness News there may be a new concrete slab or pavers put in the yard since Caylee's disappearance.


http://www.wftv.com/news/16975536/detail.html


I just read that " Thank you" for the Link. You notice Cindy is always playing on Words. She states they can tear the house down ..dig a big hole .... Caylee is not Here. Which is like telling the Truth in Cindy's Mind. " If Caylee was buried there at One Point" that was not the question, nor was it Cindy's direct answer. But if she knows where Caylee is " In essence her stating she is not Here" is a truthful statement for her.
Like George saying " Thats not My Grand Daughter's DNA found in the Trunk". Well Maybe that is True Statement in George's Mind, and its not his Grand Daughter but His Daughter.  I know its sick and its Mind Blowing to think but, I am not ruling out George being Caylee's Dad. 

Something is just so overtly WRONG with this Entire Family.  It shows in every way unimaginable  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Yes that family is a piece of cake!  I also think that Lee or George could very well be Caylee's father.  Ohhhhh, how I hope I'm wrong.

Evidently, someone was saying they had concrete work done on July 4th, weekend, but it didn't make the papers till the 24th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:53:10 AM
Family of Missing Toddler Caylee Anthony Mum on TV Reports of New Concrete Slab in Yard


The family of an Orlando toddler missing for more than a month won't answer questions about a tip that a new concrete slab was poured in the grandparents' backyard over July 4 weekend, shortly before they reported the child missing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390054,00.html



Well, Here's Cindy's Story about it   ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe Casey borrowed the shovel to dig the slab up & put a new one in its place.  Very interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 02:55:36 AM
Family of Missing Toddler Caylee Anthony Mum on TV Reports of New Concrete Slab in Yard


The family of an Orlando toddler missing for more than a month won't answer questions about a tip that a new concrete slab was poured in the grandparents' backyard over July 4 weekend, shortly before they reported the child missing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390054,00.html



Well, Here's Cindy's Story about it   ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe Casey borrowed the shovel to dig the slab up & put a new one in its place.  Very interesting.

As I read your Words I just had Deja vu  - Huge chill up my back 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Praying4Angels on September 07, 2008, 02:56:24 AM
I see just about everyone is heading off to the monkey bunky...I have some pages to catch up on from this afternoon but was wondering since I saw (and was ELATED) that they had a phenomenal amount of volunteers to search today--was anything discovered or have we made any headway today?

I don't really see anything new since the gun pickup...lots of protesting...is that about it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 02:59:21 AM
I see just about everyone is heading off to the monkey bunky...I have some pages to catch up on from this afternoon but was wondering since I saw (and was ELATED) that they had a phenomenal amount of volunteers to search today--was anything discovered or have we made any headway today?

I don't really see anything new since the gun pickup...lots of protesting...is that about it?

Nothing that has been reported to the public anyway.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 03:01:29 AM
Well it's bedtime for me. 

Good night & God Bless.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 03:02:58 AM
I see just about everyone is heading off to the monkey bunky...I have some pages to catch up on from this afternoon but was wondering since I saw (and was ELATED) that they had a phenomenal amount of volunteers to search today--was anything discovered or have we made any headway today?

I don't really see anything new since the gun pickup...lots of protesting...is that about it?

Hopefully Tomorrow Brings more leads or better yet  " Caylee "


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 03:17:05 AM
Good Night Monkeys who are Leaving

I keep thinking about Leonard Padilla saying that Casey got Zanny the Nanny from a Book. Which the Book does exist.
Prior to him saying that though I was thinking about Casey herself. Seems she has a very creative imagination. And it was stated during her last stint in Jail she was a model inmate and Read Books the entire time.

When I was in Jr High and early High School *** Pre Internet *** Pre Cell Phones ... Girls Read Books. We would all be reading the Same Book. And it was not just a few but Many girls reading the same book at one time. I recall " Flowers in the Attic" which can't remember which one that was in a series. But it was a Communication tool at best. No matter who you were friends with, others too wanted to talk about the Current book going around.

My point being I am sure that Casey has Books in her bedroom. She has lived in her parents house all her life. Interests in books and topics of types of books says a lot about a person. I just would think LE would go thru her room and somewhat make a profile of her - due to its contents.  I have read she did not graduate from high school. Which leads me to believe was due to her unstable home life and or addictions. One or both.

I would think she would have many personal things in her room that were of her past and present. I have picture's that Caylee had her own room. I just wonder what's in that Girl's head, or how did she become who she is today.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Lynn32792 on September 07, 2008, 03:31:07 AM
Did anyone notice that Ricardo M. was a Biology major in college. I'm not implying that he was involved, but I'm sure Casey could've asked him specific questions pertaining to DNA and whatnot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 07, 2008, 03:57:18 AM
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FLY LIKE THE WIND SWEET ANGEL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: tomm9298 on September 07, 2008, 04:34:53 AM
Good Night Monkeys who are Leaving

I keep thinking about Leonard Padilla saying that Casey got Zanny the Nanny from a Book. Which the Book does exist.
Prior to him saying that though I was thinking about Casey herself. Seems she has a very creative imagination. And it was stated during her last stint in Jail she was a model inmate and Read Books the entire time.

When I was in Jr High and early High School *** Pre Internet *** Pre Cell Phones ... Girls Read Books. We would all be reading the Same Book. And it was not just a few but Many girls reading the same book at one time. I recall " Flowers in the Attic" which can't remember which one that was in a series. But it was a Communication tool at best. No matter who you were friends with, others too wanted to talk about the Current book going around.

My point being I am sure that Casey has Books in her bedroom. She has lived in her parents house all her life. Interests in books and topics of types of books says a lot about a person. I just would think LE would go thru her room and somewhat make a profile of her - due to its contents.  I have read she did not graduate from high school. Which leads me to believe was due to her unstable home life and or addictions. One or both.

I would think she would have many personal things in her room that were of her past and present. I have picture's that Caylee had her own room. I just wonder what's in that Girl's head, or how did she become who she is today.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Zanny the Nanny....


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It's a children's mystery book. There is a series of them.

From School Library Journal
Grade 4-6-- If one set of twins is double trouble, then two sets of twins in one family is double trouble squared, especially when the twins in question have the power to communicate with oneother telepathically. The Starbuck family includes 12-year-old fraternal twins July Burton and Liberty Bell; their younger mirror image siblings, Charlotte and Amalie; the children's mother, herself a twin; her obnoxious sister, Honey; and, lastly, father Putnam Starbuck, who has just become an undersecretary at the U. S. Embassy in London. This change of jobs and venue takes the twins and their teacher Zanny the Nanny (oh, these names!) to the native turf of their hero, Sherlock Holmes, and a rendezvous with a mysterious spirit voice that has been invading the twins' telepathic turf. If all of this sounds complicated, it is; in fact, so busy is the author with introducing her cornucopia of characters and their eccentricities that it takes her 154 pages to orchestrate the pivotal encounter that will engage the plot. Granted this is the first of a proposed series and, accordingly, a good deal of background information needs to be imparted. But the fundamental problem remains that there are simply too many characters, both human and . . . otherwise (this is a ghost story of sorts, after all). One hopes that future stories will focus more on plot and less on the too literary complexities of characterization. Otherwise the terms ``Starbuck Family'' and ``adventure'' will join the ranks of such treasured oxymorons as ``jumbo shrimp.'' --Michael Cart, Beverly Hills Public Library
Copyright 1992 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title


Good morning MonkeyS!!!!!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: jaggard19 on September 07, 2008, 04:46:13 AM
You're welcome, Mammy!


Carpe  - Just thinking .... If Caylee's body was anywhere at one time in the Anthony backyard ... would not their own Dogs * their two little dog's be set off on that. Not as in a K-9 trained, but Just being a Dog.
Knowing Caylee's scent and naturally sniffing. I know I had to bury a baby squirrel * so sad. And my Neighbors Cat dug it up.  Not comparing Caylee to a squirrel ..but you get my thoughts ...
What about George's dogs ??? hmm


Somewhere in all the postings, someone said that the dogs use the side yard because Cindy did not want them using the same yard that Caylee played in.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Altruist on September 07, 2008, 05:22:51 AM
You know something that's been on my mind awhile now along with other things but my main thing that I was hoping you all could speculate as I have is WHO say's exactly how many days..wouldn't it be "she's been missing for a month"  Doesn't that sound like normal speech pattern?  Just something that's been in the back of my head the "31 days" thing just never seemed right.  Hope you all can understand I'm thinking and trying to type it not sure if it's coming out right but if so anyone else have an opinion on the days vs month in a speech pattern?

IMO, KC had amended the "script" with the addition of the 31 day utterance onto the 911 call.  When LE had discovered that the "kidnappers" didn't exist they would be looking into the family, she didn't want to be the POI, so she was going on record to have seen Caylee last June 14th.  CA caught it, responded with the "I've already given you 30 days" & was so pissed off that she went further on to utter "the damn car smells like a dead body has been in it" where we heard GA wwwhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaat! (Unspoken words, you're not going to pin this on us).  The car was never in the script, neither was the the dead body smell.  THE 30 DAYS WAS IN THE SCRIPT.  Poor Caylee's spirit left this earth June 15, 2008, God rest her soul.

If the above 911 content hadn't happened with the additional unplanned additions the abduction in the park story would have been told to LE that night, the car would never have been an issue other than for LE to verify the VIN from the outside of the car if even that cuz the "kidnapping story" was supposed to come out to LE as a result of a kid who didn't know what to do, lying to her parents cuz she was scared & finally coming clean to the parents through LE.  That's why GA & CA felt safe removing things from the car, washing them , so sorry I have destroyed any possible forensic evidence, after all possibly LE would be asking what KC had been wearing on the day of the "abduction", oooops too late, I already washed them.

Now KC finds herself in a pickle, she has no idea at all what to do, when interviewed she makes it up as she goes along, she's confortable doing this, using some of the information contained in the original "script".  Needs input from CA & GA.  You can tell when Melich is confronting her that her story is all lies, she has nothing to say.  Why?   She needs direction,  she's watched enough crime shows, she knows to keep her mouth shut until she is safely able to talk to the director's of the sensational story that's going to make them wealthy.  This girl had options, she could have run away for 4 months birthed the child, given it up for placement for adoption, come back, parents so glad to see her know nothing about any baby.  Nooooo, cuz when this girl gets into trouble & is faced with what she doesn't know how to deal with she comes to her parents with lightening speed. 

The car was never in the "script".  Dangerous thing to encourage your offspring to lie & treat others badly, they can turn it on you. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: tomm9298 on September 07, 2008, 05:23:14 AM
I just want to see one more sign in that front yard




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Movin' on up, like George and Weezy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BamaBlues on September 07, 2008, 06:55:16 AM
I just want to see one more sign in that front yard




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Movin' on up, like George and Weezy


Mornin' Tomm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sharon on September 07, 2008, 07:23:09 AM
Dr Baden on Geraldo ---

Says they can analyze the hair and determine how many times Caylee was chloroformed previously.

Excellent!

I am SO praying that if Caylee was chloroformed, it was not to exploit Caylee on film --  but to allow Casey to continue her sexual film career without worry of Caylee seeing or interfering.

I DEFINITELY think that Casey was involved in porn. And group sex.

I prayer Caylee was NOT.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Not trying to be naive -- just trying to hold out some hope for this little angel's short time on earth.

So sad that this is the best I can hope for.

Casey needs to be sterilized.

I'm not in the medical field, but I volunteer to do the deed.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Sharon/Tx on September 07, 2008, 07:27:09 AM
Good morning!  I've been on vacation this week and am trying to catch up again.  Something still bothers me in Lee's taped conversation with Casey.  At the end, he says something like "ok darling."  I love my brother but I don't think he would ever call me "darling".......... even here in the south!  I didn't know if it had been discussed here but it sure plays over and over in my mind.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 07:27:56 AM
GLOBE ARTICLE 9.15.08 PART II

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Good morning Monkey's

San,thank you so much for the Globe article!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 07:34:01 AM
Just want to repost this:

Someone should tip off the authoritys of the Caylee facebook profile. Its in Casey's friendlist and I just noticed that the ONLY friend Caylee's facebook profile has is of her mothers. Its not a standard account like a "Help Find Caylee" facebook it looks like its Caylees account. What if there is evidence on that profile like in the location or something? And I am thinking that profile was made before Casey was arrested.
Willen,please,can you post the link to Caylee's Facebook?If it hasn't already been posted.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 07:35:21 AM
Time for a little humor


Bank robbery
 
A man with a gun went into a bank and demanded their money. Once he was given the money, he turned to a customer and asked, 'Did you see me rob this bank?'
 
The man replied, 'Yes sir, I did.'
 
The robber then shot him in the temple, killing him instantly.
 
He then turned to a couple standing next to him and asked the man, 'Did you see me rob this bank?'



 
The man replied, 'No sir, I didn't, but my wife did'.........     ::MonkeyLaugh::
LOL     ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 07, 2008, 07:37:28 AM
Nobody even bothered reporting this  ::MonkeyWaa::
Oldest Gorilla In Captivity Dies In Dallas
Jenny, 55, Had Inoperable Brain Tumor

POSTED: 4:22 pm EDT September 5, 2008


DALLAS -- Jenny, the oldest living gorilla in captivity, has passed away at the age of 55 from an inoperable tumor.

The tumor, which was located in her stomach, had begun to interfere with her eating and drinking, reported KXAS-TV in Dallas. Jenny had not been eating normally and had recently been showing signs of dehydration, despite attempts to provide her with food and liquids.

Jenny lived at the Dallas Zoo for more than 50 years and was one of only four gorillas over the age of 50 in North American zoos.

"She touched so many people's lives and helped them appreciate this endangered species," said Chuck Siegel, the zoo's deputy director for animal management. "Her longevity is a testament to the outstanding animal care that the Dallas Zoo provides for wildlife. Her legacy will live on through our commitment to educating the public about the importance of gorilla conservation and continuing our efforts to protect gorillas in the wild."

The Western lowland gorilla received national attention this spring as she celebrated her 55th birthday with Dallas Zoo staff, volunteers and many of her fans.

"We were fortunate to have the opportunity to celebrate her 55th birthday with several generations of staff, volunteers and zoo supporters," said Todd Bowsher, curator of mammals in the Wilds of Africa. "So many people reminisced about seeing Jenny during their childhood and brought their children back to meet her for the party. We had a tough time saying goodbye."

According to global animal records managed through the International Species Information System, Jenny was the oldest gorilla ever to be documented on ISIS records. More than 700 institutions around the world report their collection to ISIS.
Distributed by Internet Broadcasting. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed



Huh? Where do they get these reporters?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 07:41:19 AM
Daryl,

do you know if there are any materials, chemicals that can sabotage cadaver dogs from detecting the decomposition smells.  Like if a body was 6 feet underground in the middle of a 9' x 14' area inside a hard plastic storage container lidded & then bungie corded having the hole surrounded with such a sabotaging material?

I so need some guidance, this is driving me over the edge.

Sure, you could seal a container and there would be no smell for the dogs. You could take a 30 gal plastic drum (or smaller for a child that small) maybe 15 gal - seal it and cover it with lime and grass fertilizer.  I found it very strange that George was liming and fertilizing his yard for two days recently.

I don't know if it would fool the "cadaver sniffer" from the Body Farm though. I have picked up just bones from Indian burial grounds hundreds of years ago buried. 

Who limes their yard? Do we know that's what he was actually using? WTF would he need lime in his garden for? Bug killer?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: sleddogs on September 07, 2008, 07:48:18 AM
I just want to see one more sign in that front yard




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Movin' on up, like George and Weezy


Mornin' Tomm


I bet the neighbors do too   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: aussiegal on September 07, 2008, 07:51:45 AM
Oh my word!!! I am re watching the video of the b day party where Caylee licks the frosting off caceys face. At first I thought how sweet it was. Now as I am observing it I notice someone takes Caylees hand with frosting on it and rubs it Caseys face....no big deal....Then watch how Casey takes Caylees hand and rubs it in HER face!!!! as if shes upset at her.....think about would you take your 2yo daughters hand with frosting and rub it on her face???? Maybe I'm obssessing too much but it creeped me out when I watched it again

I watched this video several times too and i was thinking the same thing. A lady in the background can be heard saying "ohh, thats mean"... i thought maybe i was looking into it too much, im glad someone else was thinking the same.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: tomm9298 on September 07, 2008, 07:56:48 AM
I just want to see one more sign in that front yard




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Movin' on up, like George and Weezy


Mornin' Tomm


I bet the neighbors do too   ::MonkeyLaugh::

I can see a Realtor showing the home....

Over here is where the child drowned, and if you will follow me, this was the first burial place......




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 08:01:26 AM
Family of Missing Toddler Caylee Anthony Mum on TV Reports of New Concrete Slab in Yard


The family of an Orlando toddler missing for more than a month won't answer questions about a tip that a new concrete slab was poured in the grandparents' backyard over July 4 weekend, shortly before they reported the child missing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390054,00.html



Well, Here's Cindy's Story about it   ::MonkeyEek::

Maybe Casey borrowed the shovel to dig the slab up & put a new one in its place.  Very interesting.

As I read your Words I just had Deja vu  - Huge chill up my back 

How large are these pavers, could Casey have possibly dug one up, and if so, was she strong enough to carry one? Where the heck is the old one? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: tomm9298 on September 07, 2008, 08:06:12 AM
I know Halloween is 6 weeks away, but I just gotta ask


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Would you take your children to the Anthony house??????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 08:09:11 AM
Good morning!  I've been on vacation this week and am trying to catch up again.  Something still bothers me in Lee's taped conversation with Casey.  At the end, he says something like "ok darling."  I love my brother but I don't think he would ever call me "darling".......... even here in the south!  I didn't know if it had been discussed here but it sure plays over and over in my mind.   

Maybe he was being sarcastic?  Sometimes I'll say something like that when I'm being sarcastic. Doubtful, but it's a thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 07, 2008, 08:21:28 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 08:31:38 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 07, 2008, 08:39:47 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 07, 2008, 08:48:05 AM
kat ...... that theory makes perfect sense!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: BTgirl on September 07, 2008, 08:48:05 AM
Good morning!  I've been on vacation this week and am trying to catch up again.  Something still bothers me in Lee's taped conversation with Casey.  At the end, he says something like "ok darling."  I love my brother but I don't think he would ever call me "darling".......... even here in the south!  I didn't know if it had been discussed here but it sure plays over and over in my mind.   

Maybe he was being sarcastic?  Sometimes I'll say something like that when I'm being sarcastic. Doubtful, but it's a thought.

It might simply be a habit of speech. My husband calls all females "darling," and I don't think he even realizes half the time that he's doing it. Heck, he even calls our female dog "darling" when he talks to her.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 08:52:16 AM
not to mention, that Flowers guy that was on NG said that the air samples from the body farm indicated significant amounts of chloroform.. and that would not be the case had the chloroform been the result of chemicals mixing together


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 08:53:23 AM
Good morning!  I've been on vacation this week and am trying to catch up again.  Something still bothers me in Lee's taped conversation with Casey.  At the end, he says something like "ok darling."  I love my brother but I don't think he would ever call me "darling".......... even here in the south!  I didn't know if it had been discussed here but it sure plays over and over in my mind.   

Maybe he was being sarcastic?  Sometimes I'll say something like that when I'm being sarcastic. Doubtful, but it's a thought.

It might simply be a habit of speech. My husband calls all females "darling," and I don't think he even realizes half the time that he's doing it. Heck, he even calls our female dog "darling" when he talks to her.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That reminds me.. this guy called my husband for an interview a while back, and he called me sweetie.   ::MonkeyEek::  I hate when men call me sweetie, unless it's somebody I'm related to or close with, and I know they mean it in a nice way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Lillybear on September 07, 2008, 08:57:52 AM
Good morning everyone!  I'm a newbie and want to say "hey".   :D 

I'd love to know what Casey was doing when everyone thought she was going to a job.  I think there is so much more to this than we've heard yet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 08:58:57 AM
I hope they do get to search the yard and I hope TES helps.  I do believe TES has equipment that will thouroughly check the yard without the use of cadeaver dogs.  Don't they have some kind of ground sonar or something?  Oh how I hope they find that sweet baby right there at their own house.  That would close so much of this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: BTgirl on September 07, 2008, 08:59:28 AM
Good morning!  I've been on vacation this week and am trying to catch up again.  Something still bothers me in Lee's taped conversation with Casey.  At the end, he says something like "ok darling."  I love my brother but I don't think he would ever call me "darling".......... even here in the south!  I didn't know if it had been discussed here but it sure plays over and over in my mind.   

Maybe he was being sarcastic?  Sometimes I'll say something like that when I'm being sarcastic. Doubtful, but it's a thought.

It might simply be a habit of speech. My husband calls all females "darling," and I don't think he even realizes half the time that he's doing it. Heck, he even calls our female dog "darling" when he talks to her.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That reminds me.. this guy called my husband for an interview a while back, and he called me sweetie.   ::MonkeyEek::  I hate when men call me sweetie, unless it's somebody I'm related to or close with, and I know they mean it in a nice way.

I'm a very small person, and people tend to talk to me as if I'm a child, even though I'm older than dirt. Everyone I come into contact with seems to call me honey, baby, sweetie, etc. It doesn't help that I'm in the south where people do that anyway. I barely even notice it anymore.

There seem to be a lot of people around here who pick a pet name and use it with most females. Since the Anthonys live in Florida, which is sort of like the south (LOL) maybe Lee does that as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BTgirl on September 07, 2008, 09:00:31 AM
Good morning everyone!  I'm a newbie and want to say "hey".   :D 

I'd love to know what Casey was doing when everyone thought she was going to a job.  I think there is so much more to this than we've heard yet!

Hi Lillybear

That's a very good question. I hope we get answers at some poiont.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Lillybear on September 07, 2008, 09:01:28 AM
Good morning!  I've been on vacation this week and am trying to catch up again.  Something still bothers me in Lee's taped conversation with Casey.  At the end, he says something like "ok darling."  I love my brother but I don't think he would ever call me "darling".......... even here in the south!  I didn't know if it had been discussed here but it sure plays over and over in my mind.   

Maybe he was being sarcastic?  Sometimes I'll say something like that when I'm being sarcastic. Doubtful, but it's a thought.

It might simply be a habit of speech. My husband calls all females "darling," and I don't think he even realizes half the time that he's doing it. Heck, he even calls our female dog "darling" when he talks to her.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That reminds me.. this guy called my husband for an interview a while back, and he called me sweetie.   ::MonkeyEek::  I hate when men call me sweetie, unless it's somebody I'm related to or close with, and I know they mean it in a nice way.

I agree, it could just be a habit of Lee's.  Maybe he was trying to comfort Casey over the phone.. or be sweet because he just grilled her for info? Light things up?    I've heard my DS 22 call my DD14 sweetheart before, but only when he really wants to be nice to her..lol.  Most of the time he's calling her butthead :) 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: BTgirl on September 07, 2008, 09:02:21 AM
Good morning!  I've been on vacation this week and am trying to catch up again.  Something still bothers me in Lee's taped conversation with Casey.  At the end, he says something like "ok darling."  I love my brother but I don't think he would ever call me "darling".......... even here in the south!  I didn't know if it had been discussed here but it sure plays over and over in my mind.   

Maybe he was being sarcastic?  Sometimes I'll say something like that when I'm being sarcastic. Doubtful, but it's a thought.

It might simply be a habit of speech. My husband calls all females "darling," and I don't think he even realizes half the time that he's doing it. Heck, he even calls our female dog "darling" when he talks to her.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That reminds me.. this guy called my husband for an interview a while back, and he called me sweetie.   ::MonkeyEek::  I hate when men call me sweetie, unless it's somebody I'm related to or close with, and I know they mean it in a nice way.

I agree, it could just be a habit of Lee's.  Maybe he was trying to comfort Casey over the phone.. or be sweet because he just grilled her for info? Light things up?    I've heard my DS 22 call my DD14 sweetheart before, but only when he really wants to be nice to her..lol.  Most of the time he's calling her butthead :) 

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: TxLady2 on September 07, 2008, 09:08:20 AM
Good morning!  I've been on vacation this week and am trying to catch up again.  Something still bothers me in Lee's taped conversation with Casey.  At the end, he says something like "ok darling."  I love my brother but I don't think he would ever call me "darling".......... even here in the south!  I didn't know if it had been discussed here but it sure plays over and over in my mind.   

Maybe he was being sarcastic?  Sometimes I'll say something like that when I'm being sarcastic. Doubtful, but it's a thought.

It might simply be a habit of speech. My husband calls all females "darling," and I don't think he even realizes half the time that he's doing it. Heck, he even calls our female dog "darling" when he talks to her.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

That reminds me.. this guy called my husband for an interview a while back, and he called me sweetie.   ::MonkeyEek::  I hate when men call me sweetie, unless it's somebody I'm related to or close with, and I know they mean it in a nice way.

I'm a very small person, and people tend to talk to me as if I'm a child, even though I'm older than dirt. Everyone I come into contact with seems to call me honey, baby, sweetie, etc. It doesn't help that I'm in the south where people do that anyway. I barely even notice it anymore.

There seem to be a lot of people around here who pick a pet name and use it with most females. Since the Anthonys live in Florida, which is sort of like the south (LOL) maybe Lee does that as well.

I'm from the South... neither one of my brothers would dream of calling me 'Darlin'.... I find it very strange for a brother to call a sister that. I've been called Honey and Sweetie by salesmen or casual acquaintances, which I do not like. My hubby doesn't even call me pet names.... it's either Mom or my first name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 09:09:53 AM
Channel 6 News at 11:00 said the Anthonys have installed a camera on their house so they can monitor what's going on outside.  IMO, they should worry more about who's inside the house than worrying about what's going on outside.  I once knew someone with a lot of the same characteristics as Casey and although everything she said was one lie after another, the truth seemed to always be embedded between all of the lies. I do believe that Casey has already told LE where Caylee is but has done so in riddles. I firmly believe the statements about being "close to home" will wnd up being very true.

No kidding.  I wouldn't sleep in that house until I installed an industrial size deadbolt on my bedroom door.

That would mean that the area TES is searching now won't produce Caylee. Unless Casey just meant to infer that she was in the Orlando vicinity vs out of state. I'm beginning to think that maybe LP is right on that point. Maybe the flurry of calls really was to establish where everyone was so she could go home unhindered. She got the shovel from the neighbor when she asked, right? The pings took place before she borrowed it, right? How long did she have it? I'll go find these answers, I was just hoping someone might remember. TIA!  ::MonkeyWink::

The neighbor said that Casey borrowed the shovel for aprox. 45 min to one hr.

Trying to catch up..... but when shovel was borrowed also Caylee was already missing. Cindys reason was bamboo in backyard so Caylee wouldnt trip right?  Now I have a hard time believing Cindy thought Casey came back to house to do this when Caylee was gone...... So has Cindy really known the whole time? What did Casey tell her she used it for? Bambo is not believable, no way, no how


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MSE on September 07, 2008, 09:11:02 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: aussiegal on September 07, 2008, 09:11:21 AM
 :smt039
I've finally caught up and its bed time!
goodnight.

L
10.39pm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blonde on September 07, 2008, 09:11:48 AM
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Comments

4 Responses to “Caylee Marie Anthony”
sarah on July 25th, 2008 7:45 pm

where was she last seen with Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez?
Marie Fraser on August 3rd, 2008 9:31 am

The family and Casey’s attorney should encourage her to tell the FBI and local law enforcement everything she knows. The welfare, if she is still alive, though doubtful, should be above all else. Her actions and her actions only are detrimental to finding the child alive or her corpse.
JACKIE on August 5th, 2008 11:48 am

WHY HAS THERE NOT BEEN AN AMBER ALERT PUT OUT FOR LITTLE CAYLEE
ANTHONY? IS IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE EVIDENCE THAT SHE IS DECEASED?
to cindy and casy anthony on September 5th, 2008 3:31 pm

I would like to say to thios family to stop being indenial about what Casy did to her daughter. I can’t understand how you can sit in your house and not care where she put that sweet and buetiful baby girl st or as you clam that someone has her witch we all know that Casy killed that baby. I like you to know that I am the sister of the women your daughter clamed she left her daughter too. Which is a lye because I know for a fact that she would never ever do anything like that. So I hope you can see that she and that nobody else took that baby. You should cofese what happen to her and stop covering up for her and that all of you should be out there youselfs looking for Caylee not just other people doing your job for you.

http://www.helpfindthemissing.org/missing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Lillybear on September 07, 2008, 09:12:01 AM
Thanks for the welcome BTgirl!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 09:13:03 AM
Cindy told Greta that they had kids use their pool without their permission.  Kids don't care if there is ladder there or not.  It's called pool hopping and not too many kids go behind a wooden fence with barking dogs to wake up the owners. She mumbled here way throught that one.
Red flag of a lie.

Can you tell I am a reformed pool hopper?

LOL!!!! reformed pool hopper!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 07, 2008, 09:13:19 AM
GLOBE ARTICLE 9.15.08 PART II

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Globe9.jpg)
Good morning Monkey's

San,thank you so much for the Globe article!

You're welcome.

I am attaching the first part again just in case people didn't see the first post with the link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 09:13:37 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html  It is stuck on last night video tho.

Welcome to you and all the new monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 09:14:51 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

Hi Precious, welcome!

This is the one, but it appears to be stuck on a frame from last night.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 07, 2008, 09:15:57 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

I think this is it.  Someone correct me if I am wrong.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:17:48 AM
You know something that's been on my mind awhile now along with other things but my main thing that I was hoping you all could speculate as I have is WHO say's exactly how many days..wouldn't it be "she's been missing for a month"  Doesn't that sound like normal speech pattern?  Just something that's been in the back of my head the "31 days" thing just never seemed right.  Hope you all can understand I'm thinking and trying to type it not sure if it's coming out right but if so anyone else have an opinion on the days vs month in a speech pattern?

IMO, KC had amended the "script" with the addition of the 31 day utterance onto the 911 call.  When LE had discovered that the "kidnappers" didn't exist they would be looking into the family, she didn't want to be the POI, so she was going on record to have seen Caylee last June 14th.  CA caught it, responded with the "I've already given you 30 days" & was so pissed off that she went further on to utter "the damn car smells like a dead body has been in it" where we heard GA wwwhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaat! (Unspoken words, you're not going to pin this on us).  The car was never in the script, neither was the the dead body smell.  THE 30 DAYS WAS IN THE SCRIPT.  Poor Caylee's spirit left this earth June 15, 2008, God rest her soul.

If the above 911 content hadn't happened with the additional unplanned additions the abduction in the park story would have been told to LE that night, the car would never have been an issue other than for LE to verify the VIN from the outside of the car if even that cuz the "kidnapping story" was supposed to come out to LE as a result of a kid who didn't know what to do, lying to her parents cuz she was scared & finally coming clean to the parents through LE.  That's why GA & CA felt safe removing things from the car, washing them , so sorry I have destroyed any possible forensic evidence, after all possibly LE would be asking what KC had been wearing on the day of the "abduction", oooops too late, I already washed them.
Now KC finds herself in a pickle, she has no idea at all what to do, when interviewed she makes it up as she goes along, she's confortable doing this, using some of the information contained in the original "script".  Needs input from CA & GA.  You can tell when Melich is confronting her that her story is all lies, she has nothing to say.  Why?   She needs direction,  she's watched enough crime shows, she knows to keep her mouth shut until she is safely able to talk to the director's of the sensational story that's going to make them wealthy.  This girl had options, she could have run away for 4 months birthed the child, given it up for placement for adoption, come back, parents so glad to see her know nothing about any baby.  Nooooo, cuz when this girl gets into trouble & is faced with what she doesn't know how to deal with she comes to her parents with lightening speed. 
The car was never in the "script".  Dangerous thing to encourage your offspring to lie & treat others badly, they can turn it on you. 
Great thoughts Altruist!
I too think there was a script to be followed,a plan to stick too but Cindy messed that plan up a bit.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: NaNaPenny63 on September 07, 2008, 09:18:13 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 07, 2008, 09:18:16 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

Hi Precious, welcome!

This is the one, but it appears to be stuck on a frame from last night.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


Thanks Carpe.

Goodmorning Everyone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 09:19:47 AM
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Comments

4 Responses to “Caylee Marie Anthony”
sarah on July 25th, 2008 7:45 pm

where was she last seen with Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez?
Marie Fraser on August 3rd, 2008 9:31 am

The family and Casey’s attorney should encourage her to tell the FBI and local law enforcement everything she knows. The welfare, if she is still alive, though doubtful, should be above all else. Her actions and her actions only are detrimental to finding the child alive or her corpse.
JACKIE on August 5th, 2008 11:48 am

WHY HAS THERE NOT BEEN AN AMBER ALERT PUT OUT FOR LITTLE CAYLEE
ANTHONY? IS IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE EVIDENCE THAT SHE IS DECEASED?
to cindy and casy anthony on September 5th, 2008 3:31 pm

I would like to say to thios family to stop being indenial about what Casy did to her daughter. I can’t understand how you can sit in your house and not care where she put that sweet and buetiful baby girl st or as you clam that someone has her witch we all know that Casy killed that baby. I like you to know that I am the sister of the women your daughter clamed she left her daughter too. Which is a lye because I know for a fact that she would never ever do anything like that. So I hope you can see that she and that nobody else took that baby. You should cofese what happen to her and stop covering up for her and that all of you should be out there youselfs looking for Caylee not just other people doing your job for you.

http://www.helpfindthemissing.org/missing


I'd ask that person out of curiosity if they have another sister named Samantha.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 09:21:30 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

Hi Precious, welcome!

This is the one, but it appears to be stuck on a frame from last night.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html


Thanks Carpe.

Goodmorning Everyone.


G'MORNING SAN!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 09:22:33 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.

If they do that, and nothing is there (or even if there is), do they have a legal obligation to replace the concrete?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MSE on September 07, 2008, 09:24:22 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html  It is stuck on last night video tho.

Welcome to you and all the new monkeys!
Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:24:25 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 09:26:18 AM
Found it strange too that Cindy said George bled while laying the pavers.  How much could one possibly bleed?  Maybe a few nicked nuckles...but to say "blood".  Sounds like laying the groundwork for a cover story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:26:33 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: mrskub on September 07, 2008, 09:27:50 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.

If they do that, and nothing is there (or even if there is), do they have a legal obligation to replace the concrete?

Good question another. In NY I know they don't. My mother owns several rental properties. One of them was raided for suspected drug sales/use by the tenant. Police literally trashed the apartment, busted the front door in, pulled up carpeting in some areas, pulled down a suspended ceiling and ripped out a bathroom wall cabinet. Didn't find a thing and Mom was stuck with the bill. Absolutely no recourse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 09:28:19 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.


To the best of my knowledge, no cement was ever poured. They just laid
down these dealies called pavers... or where I come from... we call them
fake bricks. LOL

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/FDGGDDDG.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 07, 2008, 09:31:30 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

You're right about that, Karma. Could have been any one of them on the computer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 09:32:14 AM
I just want to see one more sign in that front yard




(http://www.weblo.com/asset_images/large/ForSaleByOwner.com_4790bf9a5b94c.jpg)



Movin' on up, like George and Weezy


Mornin' Tomm


I bet the neighbors do too   ::MonkeyLaugh::

I can see a Realtor showing the home....

Over here is where the child drowned, and if you will follow me, this was the first burial place......




OMG I'm trying so hard not to laugh........ ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 07, 2008, 09:33:53 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 09:35:26 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

That's something that bugs me. George and Cindy have their own computer, I would assume.. if not, ok they use Casey's laptop. But they (especially George) have to know that even if they delete the cache, cops are still going to find that information.. so if Casey isn't the one using it herself, then her family is (maybe w/out meaning to) setting her up.   So why would George be looking this up on her laptop?  Now her friends very well could have..  what Im curious about is, do we know where the laptop was when whoever was looking up this information? This happened hours before Casey's arrest, so one would assume it was at her house. But cops can figure this out by IP addy... or maybe she was "stealing" somebody's connection in the neighborhood?   Just thinking out loud..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:36:09 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.
Welcome all new Monkey's


Nana,I believe when LE searched the yard they said there wasn't any new cement poured.I could be wrong but I thought I read it that way at the time of the yard search.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 09:38:57 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.


Also, keep in mind... it was found on Casey's laptop... she could have taken it and logged on from anywhere... she was not tethered to home with it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 09:41:34 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.


If she had left her body in the backyard for a couple of days before she transferred her to the trunk then yes the dogs would of alerted.    Then if they got on the internet after Caylee was dead to find out how to use the chloroform to mask the dna it would explain that also.  It depends on the date of when Caylee died and the date of when the internet searches were done.  There is a possibility that the chloroform was produced when the chlorine from the pool interacted with the body and when they used it to try to cover up the dna.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 07, 2008, 09:42:46 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

That's something that bugs me. George and Cindy have their own computer, I would assume.. if not, ok they use Casey's laptop. But they (especially George) have to know that even if they delete the cache, cops are still going to find that information.. so if Casey isn't the one using it herself, then her family is (maybe w/out meaning to) setting her up.   So why would George be looking this up on her laptop?  Now her friends very well could have..  what Im curious about is, do we know where the laptop was when whoever was looking up this information? This happened hours before Casey's arrest, so one would assume it was at her house. But cops can figure this out by IP addy... or maybe she was "stealing" somebody's connection in the neighborhood?   Just thinking out loud..

I don't remember hearing a time and date when she was looking up this information.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:42:53 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 09:42:55 AM
Only a guilty person/persons would come up with all these stories.  First, there were hits on the backyard for decomp., bye TWO different dogs.  Then they decide to start digging up trees, laying pavers...WHO would do that??  George and casey have been in cover up mode from June 15th or 16th.  George and Cindy have tampered with so much evidence I can hardly believe they are not in jail already.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 07, 2008, 09:45:03 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.


Also, keep in mind... it was found on Casey's laptop... she could have taken it and logged on from anywhere... she was not tethered to home with it.

That's right Carpe. I do recall reading in one of the docs that it was Cindy's laptop but Casey used it. She probably had it with her when she was telling her BF that was working from hone on the event planning.

I was hoping the police could tell who looked it up by the log in but, I'm not sure. In my own home, my computer just stays logged on in my name and my hubby or daughter just do stuff under my log in. I imagine a lot of families might do that as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:45:51 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

That's something that bugs me. George and Cindy have their own computer, I would assume.. if not, ok they use Casey's laptop. But they (especially George) have to know that even if they delete the cache, cops are still going to find that information.. so if Casey isn't the one using it herself, then her family is (maybe w/out meaning to) setting her up.   So why would George be looking this up on her laptop?  Now her friends very well could have..  what Im curious about is, do we know where the laptop was when whoever was looking up this information? This happened hours before Casey's arrest, so one would assume it was at her house. But cops can figure this out by IP addy... or maybe she was "stealing" somebody's connection in the neighborhood?   Just thinking out loud..
I don't know if it means anything but I believe the laptop the police took belonged to Cindy but I think they also have a few computers in the home.
Also,does Lee's job have something to do with computers or tech support?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: mrskub on September 07, 2008, 09:46:09 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.
Welcome all new Monkey's


Nana,I believe when LE searched the yard they said there wasn't any new cement poured.I could be wrong but I thought I read it that way at the time of the yard search.


That's what I recall too, Karma.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 09:46:30 AM
Oh my word!!! I am re watching the video of the b day party where Caylee licks the frosting off caceys face. At first I thought how sweet it was. Now as I am observing it I notice someone takes Caylees hand with frosting on it and rubs it Caseys face....no big deal....Then watch how Casey takes Caylees hand and rubs it in HER face!!!! as if shes upset at her.....think about would you take your 2yo daughters hand with frosting and rub it on her face???? Maybe I'm obssessing too much but it creeped me out when I watched it again

I watched this video several times too and i was thinking the same thing. A lady in the background can be heard saying "ohh, thats mean"... i thought maybe i was looking into it too much, im glad someone else was thinking the same.

YES it was mean! Watching it again speaks volumes to me! Rubbing(forcing) a 2yo's messy hand in her face is cruel. I don't care if it was frosting or what! And thats with the video on her. Now how about when no one is  around or no cameras???  I think it was her immediate reaction to do that, then thinking everyone was watching lets try to make this funny.......IMO,  NOT FUNNY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 09:47:12 AM
Remember the fake email from her "work"?  Was it ever released who/who's computer those were sent from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MSE on September 07, 2008, 09:47:17 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

 

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.

No matter where they move, they will always have the black cloud with them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:48:17 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.


Also, keep in mind... it was found on Casey's laptop... she could have taken it and logged on from anywhere... she was not tethered to home with it.
Carpe,I thought I read in the evidence documents that the laptop taken(that Casey used)from the car was Cindy's laptop.....I'll try and find where I read that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: pmadams on September 07, 2008, 09:48:28 AM
I had a dream last night of a wooded area and train tracks just outside of the area? Wonder if there is an area like that where they are currently searching?
Also, do any of you guys think that maybe George or Lee took Caylee's body far away, like another county or area, to dispose of it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: NaNaPenny63 on September 07, 2008, 09:48:36 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.
Welcome all new Monkey's


Nana,I believe when LE searched the yard they said there wasn't any new cement poured.I could be wrong but I thought I read it that way at the time of the yard search.


ok thank you all........they still need to move em and check i say cuz where else would be a good place to hide something but somewhere that has already been searched JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 09:49:24 AM
Only a guilty person/persons would come up with all these stories.  First, there were hits on the backyard for decomp., bye TWO different dogs.  Then they decide to start digging up trees, laying pavers...WHO would do that??  George and casey have been in cover up mode from June 15th or 16th.  George and Cindy have tampered with so much evidence I can hardly believe they are not in jail already.


Me either, kippy! These people are scum of the Earth. So many people would
have been in jail already. The overlooking of the gun found in George's car
yesterday is a perfect example of this.

Either

A. Prosecutors are overlooking smaller things right now to pound the final
    nails into their case.

or

B. The Anthony's do not have to abide by any laws, whatsoever. They get a free
    pass that nobody else knows about.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 07, 2008, 09:49:53 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.


They make me sick when I see them with these T-Shirts on.  George is disgusting.

(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3355.0;attach=1770;image)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 07, 2008, 09:51:00 AM
Casey Anthony Hot Spots MAP
These are the places where Casey Anthony frequented after the disappearance of her daughter Caylee Anthony.
http://tinyurl.com/5b259u


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 09:51:03 AM
Source Claims New Slab Of Concrete Or Pavers Behind Anthony Home

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There is more mystery surrounding the backyard of the house owned by Caylee's grandparents. Deputies already dug up part of the yard after a dog sniffed the distinct smell of a dead body. Now, an inside source told Eyewitness News there may be a new concrete slab or pavers put in the yard since Caylee's disappearance.


http://www.wftv.com/news/16975536/detail.html


I just read that " Thank you" for the Link. You notice Cindy is always playing on Words. She states they can tear the house down ..dig a big hole .... Caylee is not Here. Which is like telling the Truth in Cindy's Mind. " If Caylee was buried there at One Point" that was not the question, nor was it Cindy's direct answer. But if she knows where Caylee is " In essence her stating she is not Here" is a truthful statement for her.
Like George saying " Thats not My Grand Daughter's DNA found in the Trunk". Well Maybe that is True Statement in George's Mind, and its not his Grand Daughter but His Daughter.  I know its sick and its Mind Blowing to think but, I am not ruling out George being Caylee's Dad. 

Something is just so overtly WRONG with this Entire Family.  It shows in every way unimaginable  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Yes that family is a piece of cake!  I also think that Lee or George could very well be Caylee's father.  Ohhhhh, how I hope I'm wrong.

I know, Its not easy to swallow. The only way I can see this like I said many post before is if George maybe chloroformed Casey while she was alsleep. At Casey's age she had a little more power over this as to say a younger girl being molested........ I don't really know, but I do know this exist...... Its all so disturbing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 09:51:10 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.
Welcome all new Monkey's


Nana,I believe when LE searched the yard they said there wasn't any new cement poured.I could be wrong but I thought I read it that way at the time of the yard search.


ok thank you all........they still need to move em and check i say cuz where else would be a good place to hide something but somewhere that has already been searched JMO

BTW-

Padilla said last night on Fox with Geraldo that LE is getting ready to do just that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:51:13 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 07, 2008, 09:53:07 AM
I found a great map that someone made, showing the close proximity of everyone (almost) an places that Casey was involved with. It's a really small, dense area. She didn't seem to travel very far. Logic (if that's applicable in this case) would say that Caylee is somewhere in this area.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=115539722984873423379.00045575014983dc81d11&ll=28.51778,-81.309611&spn=0.153115,0.305836&t=h&source=embed&s=AARTsJqrcEPmXeO0bxuiavyT6-3dAF2-AQ


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 09:54:04 AM
Only a guilty person/persons would come up with all these stories.  First, there were hits on the backyard for decomp., bye TWO different dogs.  Then they decide to start digging up trees, laying pavers...WHO would do that??  George and casey have been in cover up mode from June 15th or 16th.  George and Cindy have tampered with so much evidence I can hardly believe they are not in jail already.


Me either, kippy! These people are scum of the Earth. So many people would
have been in jail already. The overlooking of the gun found in George's car
yesterday is a perfect example of this.

Either

A. Prosecutors are overlooking smaller things right now to pound the final
    nails into their case.

or

B. The Anthony's do not have to abide by any laws, whatsoever. They get a free
    pass that nobody else knows about.

I can only pray the answer is A.  They will be made to look like total asses when this comes to trial.  I cannot even imagine all the evidence to present.  Just look at what we already know..can you imagine the pleasure of questioning Cindy and George and confronting them with all the lies they told?  Not just hearsay, look at all the inconsistancies just at the hearing, under oath I might add.  I soooo badly want them to be confronted with all the bullshit they have done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 09:54:45 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....


I may be wrong, but he appears to be putting on his gay little sandals. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:54:45 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.
Welcome all new Monkey's


Nana,I believe when LE searched the yard they said there wasn't any new cement poured.I could be wrong but I thought I read it that way at the time of the yard search.


That's what I recall too, Karma.
I don't even remember when that concrete slab rumor started....it seemed to just grow wings and is still flying.I would like to think that IF there was new concrete poured,LE wouldn't be so dumb and not check there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 09:56:03 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....

I think goonboy is trying to put on his shoes...and cinful needs a root job.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 07, 2008, 09:56:14 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....

That idiot is trying to put his shoes on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 09:56:27 AM
When you look at the map look at how many bodies of water are the area.  They could of weighted the body down and she will never be found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 09:57:04 AM
Remember the fake email from her "work"?  Was it ever released who/who's computer those were sent from?
I thought I read that Lee turned in a copy of that email(to LE)that he said he found on a home computer?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: NaNaPenny63 on September 07, 2008, 09:58:58 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....

That idiot is trying to put his shoes on.
i thought he was cleaning something up.....could it be chloroform?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MisterMichaelJ on September 07, 2008, 09:59:23 AM
nice tribute to Caylee here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nbo121ndS8


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 10:00:17 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.


They make me sick when I see them with these T-Shirts on.  George is disgusting.

(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3355.0;attach=1770;image)
George is definitly a bow legged weirdo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 10:00:45 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.

If they do that, and nothing is there (or even if there is), do they have a legal obligation to replace the concrete?

Good question another. In NY I know they don't. My mother owns several rental properties. One of them was raided for suspected drug sales/use by the tenant. Police literally trashed the apartment, busted the front door in, pulled up carpeting in some areas, pulled down a suspended ceiling and ripped out a bathroom wall cabinet. Didn't find a thing and Mom was stuck with the bill. Absolutely no recourse.

Whoa, that doesn't make sense  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
GLOBE ARTICLE 9.15.08 PART II

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Globe9.jpg)
Good morning Monkey's

San,thank you so much for the Globe article!

You're welcome.

I am attaching the first part again just in case people didn't see the first post with the link.

Thanks, San, and thanks for all the articles you send here that we might not get to see.  Thank your 'Runner,' too!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 10:01:45 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.


They make me sick when I see them with these T-Shirts on.  George is disgusting.

(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3355.0;attach=1770;image)
George is definitly a bow legged weirdo.


Someone needs to tell the creep that his horse left and he ain't still riding it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: NaNaPenny63 on September 07, 2008, 10:02:04 AM
nice tribute to Caylee here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nbo121ndS8

said this video is no longer available


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: EverySunset on September 07, 2008, 10:02:39 AM
Morning everyone! This has nothing to do with the investigation, but I thought it was funny:
http://www.myspace.com/lolcaseyanthony  (http://www.myspace.com/lolcaseyanthony)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/cherryblossomcanopy/LOLCaseyInvisinvest.jpg)
But all jokes aside, I've been even more depressed the past couple days with the release of the new pics and vids. The sight of the sweet baby is making me physically ill, because I know something terrible has happened to her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:02:52 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

Hi Precious, welcome!

This is the one, but it appears to be stuck on a frame from last night.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

At first, I thought you were talking to me, darling.   ::MonkeyTongue::





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 10:03:57 AM
Casey Anthony Hot Spots MAP
These are the places where Casey Anthony frequented after the disappearance of her daughter Caylee Anthony.
http://tinyurl.com/5b259u
Dang that's a huge search area ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 10:04:28 AM
That's something that bugs me. George and Cindy have their own computer, I would assume.. if not, ok they use Casey's laptop. But they (especially George) have to know that even if they delete the cache, cops are still going to find that information.. so if Casey isn't the one using it herself, then her family is (maybe w/out meaning to) setting her up.   So why would George be looking this up on her laptop?  Now her friends very well could have..  what Im curious about is, do we know where the laptop was when whoever was looking up this information? This happened hours before Casey's arrest, so one would assume it was at her house. But cops can figure this out by IP addy... or maybe she was "stealing" somebody's connection in the neighborhood?   Just thinking out loud..

I don't remember hearing a time and date when she was looking up this information.

Nevermind.. her computer was confiscated within hours of her arrest. I just remembered wrong. :)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: oldfart on September 07, 2008, 10:05:05 AM
Found a site that looks like it has been pretty good on udpates  related to the TES search https://www.pleasefindcaylee.com/DailyUpdate.php

Oh Good Day Monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 10:05:12 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

Hi Precious, welcome!

This is the one, but it appears to be stuck on a frame from last night.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

At first, I thought you were talking to me, darling.   ::MonkeyTongue::






You are to me, Bearly!


Elmo just sayin... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Rob on September 07, 2008, 10:05:23 AM
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Rob
Scared Monkey

Posts: 8890

Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #8
« Reply #1502 on: August 26, 2008, 09:12:33 AM »
   
I think I know why the Anthony's do not want TES involved - and this is just a guess..

but TES will start at the Anthony house and that's not going to end up to good for them.


TES could be denied access, but that will just look even more horrible.

but in light of the 400 page doc release - how could TES start anywhere but the house.

and that area that looks like "disturbed ground"?

all searches need a starting point and you go from there -

the search may start and end there.


Quote
jaggard19
Scared Monkey
Posts: 48

Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #16
« Reply #1278 on: September 06, 2008, 04:01:29 PM »
   
I agree with the money and control thing, especially the control thing.  I have been trying to find the video with Cindy hammering the No Trespassing signs.  When I first saw the video, someone asked her where Tim Miller was going to search and Cindy said, "I haven't decided yet where I am going to let him search."  I was floored.  I missed the next few comments she made.  Anyone know where I can find that video?

Quote
invision
Scared Monkey

Posts: 708
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
« Reply #188 on: Today at 01:41:58 AM »
   
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?
   
First of all, invision did hear Larry Padilla correctly, because I was watching it also and heard the exact same thing. As I said all the way back on 8/26/2008 - every search needs a starting point and an ending point.

It is only logical that the areas where the decomposition was discovered by the cadaver dogs is the STARTING POINT.

I truly feel badly for Tim, Red and the rest of the volunteers that went to find Caylee, I really do. How can any search start in an area where the dogs did not alert?

After all the time that has passed and as diabolical as that family is, there may be nothing left at that house. But I'm sure, 100% sure, that Caylee was at that house and deceased.

Hopefully Tim will actually get a chance to search that house and the surrounding property to make sure Caylee is not there.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST AREA SEARCHED WHETHER CINDY LIKED IT OR NOT.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:06:17 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html  It is stuck on last night video tho.

Welcome to you and all the new monkeys!
Thank you.

Welcome to the cage!  Jump in, the water is fine!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 10:06:25 AM
When you look at the map look at how many bodies of water are the area.  They could of weighted the body down and she will never be found.

wheel chocks are just light pieces of wood, aren't they? can they be made of heavy iron or metal or anthing like that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 10:07:05 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....


I may be wrong, but he appears to be putting on his gay little sandals. ::MonkeyHaHa::
lmao!!!
Or he is looking at that rug or whatever it is....all obsessively because it's kinda messed up.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 10:07:34 AM
Well Padilla said something interesting last night.  He said when the Anthonys met with LE on a wednesday (not sure the date) their whole attitude changed after that.  Thats when Cindy "hammer  time" Anthony whose normally chitty chatty, shut up and started putting up the tape and the signs and  then they lawyer up.  I think LE put the heat on them and maybe hinted that Casey wasnt the only one involved here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 10:07:56 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....

I think goonboy is trying to put on his shoes...and cinful needs a root job.
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:08:49 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

IIRC, Casey was in Jail at the time of the chloroform look up.  Does anyone know differently?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 10:08:51 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....


I may be wrong, but he appears to be putting on his gay little sandals. ::MonkeyHaHa::



 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: San on September 07, 2008, 10:09:58 AM
GLOBE ARTICLE 9.15.08 PART II

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Globe9.jpg)
Good morning Monkey's

San,thank you so much for the Globe article!

You're welcome.

I am attaching the first part again just in case people didn't see the first post with the link.

Thanks, San, and thanks for all the articles you send here that we might not get to see.  Thank your 'Runner,' too!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:10:17 AM
good morning monkeys!!

I didnt sleep well last night and woke up thinking about this.  If this has been brought up before I apologize but I was wondering.....why dont LE  break up that newly poured concrete in the back yard?  If Caylee was buried under it would dogs smell her?  I really dont understand why they havent just broke it up to be sure....kinda mystifies me.  I mean isnt it weird that ya pour the concrete right at that time :smt102  Im confused.

If they do that, and nothing is there (or even if there is), do they have a legal obligation to replace the concrete?

Good question another. In NY I know they don't. My mother owns several rental properties. One of them was raided for suspected drug sales/use by the tenant. Police literally trashed the apartment, busted the front door in, pulled up carpeting in some areas, pulled down a suspended ceiling and ripped out a bathroom wall cabinet. Didn't find a thing and Mom was stuck with the bill. Absolutely no recourse.

That's terrible.  I would think there would be!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: jenn79co on September 07, 2008, 10:11:04 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.

That's not the picture I was trying to post but I wonder what George is staring at on the floor....


I may be wrong, but he appears to be putting on his gay little sandals. ::MonkeyHaHa::



 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Wow A disgusting, bow legged weirdo wearimg gay sandals.  I think you all have offended a big group of people comparing them to George.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 10:11:12 AM
Mobile cam 1 is frozen on last night.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Mobile cam 2 is... ??? No clue where it is set.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
Hahaha.....looks like 24 hours of darkness for the Anthony home.
2nd cam....looks like police station.

I hope they live in darkness the rest of their lives for what they did.
My hope too San.....Anthony home forever clouded by darkness...for all of the lies,for covering up the murder of thier sweet little Caylee,for sacraficing Caylee for Casey.


They make me sick when I see them with these T-Shirts on.  George is disgusting.

(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3355.0;attach=1770;image)
George is definitly a bow legged weirdo.


Someone needs to tell the creep that his horse left and he ain't still riding it!
LOL....I think that Horse left a looooong time ago ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 10:11:28 AM
Here is Geraldo from last night where Padilla says they might
be searching the Addam's Anthony family home, under the pavers!


George Anthony gets caught hiding gun in his car 9/6


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F1B0ABhM0I


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 10:14:21 AM
Remember when George said rip the shingles off my roof to

bring home my granddaughter? Good news George, it looks like

it is getting ready to happen!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 10:16:26 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

IIRC, Casey was in Jail at the time of the chloroform look up.  Does anyone know differently?

I only heard searches were found while Caylee was missing. Didn't they have computer while she was in jail?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MSE on September 07, 2008, 10:16:44 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html  It is stuck on last night video tho.

Welcome to you and all the new monkeys!

Thank you, Thank you.  ::MonkeyConfused::
Thank you.

Welcome to the cage!  Jump in, the water is fine!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 10:16:59 AM
Morning everyone! This has nothing to do with the investigation, but I thought it was funny:
http://www.myspace.com/lolcaseyanthony  (http://www.myspace.com/lolcaseyanthony)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/cherryblossomcanopy/LOLCaseyInvisinvest.jpg)
But all jokes aside, I've been even more depressed the past couple days with the release of the new pics and vids. The sight of the sweet baby is making me physically ill, because I know something terrible has happened to her.
Hahaha!
Occupation:Slore


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:17:41 AM
Oh my word!!! I am re watching the video of the b day party where Caylee licks the frosting off caceys face. At first I thought how sweet it was. Now as I am observing it I notice someone takes Caylees hand with frosting on it and rubs it Caseys face....no big deal....Then watch how Casey takes Caylees hand and rubs it in HER face!!!! as if shes upset at her.....think about would you take your 2yo daughters hand with frosting and rub it on her face???? Maybe I'm obssessing too much but it creeped me out when I watched it again

I watched this video several times too and i was thinking the same thing. A lady in the background can be heard saying "ohh, thats mean"... i thought maybe i was looking into it too much, im glad someone else was thinking the same.

YES it was mean! Watching it again speaks volumes to me! Rubbing(forcing) a 2yo's messy hand in her face is cruel. I don't care if it was frosting or what! And thats with the video on her. Now how about when no one is  around or no cameras???  I think it was her immediate reaction to do that, then thinking everyone was watching lets try to make this funny.......IMO,  NOT FUNNY

I thought it was mean, too.  I thought I was the only one.  Cindy thought so, too, she quickly cleaned her up.  Casey's face is not a happy one when she does it, it was shoved in her face, rather than put on her face from what I saw.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 10:18:01 AM
Remember when George said rip the shingles off my roof to

bring home my granddaughter? Good news George, it looks like

it is getting ready to happen!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::  Makes ya wonder what has been going on in the backyard all night and all morning huh?  Spreading a little lyme already, digging holes maybe?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 10:18:17 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html  It is stuck on last night video tho.

Welcome to you and all the new monkeys!
Thank you.

Welcome to the cage!  Jump in, the water is fine!

Why would they refuse.... Didn't George state they can rip the shingles off the roof if they need too??????? hmmmmmmm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:19:55 AM
Only a guilty person/persons would come up with all these stories.  First, there were hits on the backyard for decomp., bye TWO different dogs.  Then they decide to start digging up trees, laying pavers...WHO would do that??  George and casey have been in cover up mode from June 15th or 16th.  George and Cindy have tampered with so much evidence I can hardly believe they are not in jail already.


Me either, kippy! These people are scum of the Earth. So many people would
have been in jail already. The overlooking of the gun found in George's car
yesterday is a perfect example of this.

Either

A. Prosecutors are overlooking smaller things right now to pound the final
    nails into their case.

or

B. The Anthony's do not have to abide by any laws, whatsoever. They get a free
    pass that nobody else knows about.

I vote c.  the cops need them home to follow them to see if they visit Caylee's resting place.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 10:20:09 AM
Found a site that looks like it has been pretty good on udpates  related to the TES search https://www.pleasefindcaylee.com/DailyUpdate.php

Oh Good Day Monkeys
Great site,thanks OF.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blonde on September 07, 2008, 10:22:48 AM
kat ...... that theory makes perfect sense!
It does BUT why not call 911 unless you have something to hide.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 10:25:08 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html  It is stuck on last night video tho.

Welcome to you and all the new monkeys!
Thank you.

Welcome to the cage!  Jump in, the water is fine!

Why would they refuse.... Didn't George state they can rip the shingles off the roof if they need too??????? hmmmmmmm


oops quoting wrong post............oof


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 10:25:50 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

IIRC, Casey was in Jail at the time of the chloroform look up.  Does anyone know differently?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26532519/
Sources told WESH 2 the level of chloroform in her car was "suspiciously high." They also told WESH 2 that her computer confiscated within hours of her July arrest, show visits to Web sites with information on chloroform.

Doesn't say before or after...if after, that would be very damning to George (and perhaps Cindy)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:27:37 AM
When you look at the map look at how many bodies of water are the area.  They could of weighted the body down and she will never be found.

I still think she is here:

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/Zenaida.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 10:27:57 AM
Remember when George said rip the shingles off my roof to

bring home my granddaughter? Good news George, it looks like

it is getting ready to happen!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sometimes dead bodies are hidden in attics, and other odd places...  so you never know!  Is it true cadaver dogs did NOT go into the house?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nikkibnurse on September 07, 2008, 10:28:35 AM
Remember when George said rip the shingles off my roof to

bring home my granddaughter? Good news George, it looks like

it is getting ready to happen!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::  Makes ya wonder what has been going on in the backyard all night and all morning huh?  Spreading a little lyme already, digging holes maybe?


morning you guys...<yawwwwn>

I am just trying to wake my lazy butt up and saw this.... ::MonkeyShocked::

are they searching the yard?? Or am I too sleepy and read that wrong??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 10:29:37 AM
Only a guess, but I think the internet searches for chloroform were made around the time Caylee went missing and found at the time of her arrest.  I don't think there was a need to search chloroform "after the fact".  That's JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Riley on September 07, 2008, 10:30:45 AM
Welcome Lillybear, Precious1 and all the other newbies!  I'm new too and no one bites here, so jump on in.

There was a picture a while back with KC sleeping on a bed with a guy next to her and someone else passed out on the floor.  On the nightstand was a laptop, not sure whose it was.  They did say "her computer" showed the searches so it must have been hers they took, right?

I hope they dig up everything including that Hydrangea bush.  Just toss the whole yard.  Maybe if she is not there any longer, some article of hers maybe.

Does everyone have this cam for when they do start attacking it?  The aerial view one?  Right now, it is stuck on a propeller.  I think the cams take Sunday off.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck20mobilecam.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
Found it strange too that Cindy said George bled while laying the pavers.  How much could one possibly bleed?  Maybe a few nicked nuckles...but to say "blood".  Sounds like laying the groundwork for a cover story.

Maybe George pissed her off and she hit him with her hammer. :smt021


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:35:25 AM
nice tribute to Caylee here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nbo121ndS8

That was nice.  I love your avatar.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 10:35:28 AM
Remember when George said rip the shingles off my roof to

bring home my granddaughter? Good news George, it looks like

it is getting ready to happen!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::  Makes ya wonder what has been going on in the backyard all night and all morning huh?  Spreading a little lyme already, digging holes maybe?


morning you guys...<yawwwwn>

I am just trying to wake my lazy butt up and saw this.... ::MonkeyShocked::

are they searching the yard?? Or am I too sleepy and read that wrong??

nikki Last night they said today or tomorrow they would start searching in the yard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 10:36:17 AM
Found it strange too that Cindy said George bled while laying the pavers.  How much could one possibly bleed?  Maybe a few nicked nuckles...but to say "blood".  Sounds like laying the groundwork for a cover story.

Maybe George pissed her off and she hit him with her hammer. :smt021

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOOK OUT!!!


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/dffdgdf.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 10:36:56 AM
Found it strange too that Cindy said George bled while laying the pavers.  How much could one possibly bleed?  Maybe a few nicked nuckles...but to say "blood".  Sounds like laying the groundwork for a cover story.

Maybe George pissed her off and she hit him with her hammer. :smt021

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: That would be quite possible!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KnayKnay on September 07, 2008, 10:39:20 AM
Good morning all - can't stay - my grandson is here WOO HOO

But my thoughts this morning are: Can't LE and TES just fly over the Anthony house/backyard with their sonar equipment and see if there's suspicious spots? I am sonar ignorant so be gentle.

Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Monken on September 07, 2008, 10:39:43 AM
Hi, everyone, I've been researching this possible link this morning & want to know what everyone thinks. There is a sand lake condos that sits in the middle of where universal, disney & seaworld are located. In 2004 to 2005? it was called "bella vita" owned by laramar. It is located on Latrec which is just off "Cindy st." There are 2 lakes there. Didn't Casey work at universal during this time period? She had to know about this place & maybe even checked into living there, or maybe knew someone that lived there. Valencia Community college is also just 5 minutes from there & that was brought up too. She drove to universal every day when she worked there, it's a 20 mile trip straight down the beeline express from hopespring. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, I don't know. I just want them to find Caylee so badly! With her tattoo "bella vida", & universal & valencia & cindy st. & the lakes around it & the vacant land around it & her knowing the area well & no one finding Caylee yet, I'm just pondering! Anyone?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
Hi all, I have been stalking you all for sometime now, but just joined.   ::MonkeyWink::
Does anyone have the link for the cam at the Anthonys house, the link I have doesn't work. Thanks.

Hi Precious, welcome!

This is the one, but it appears to be stuck on a frame from last night.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

At first, I thought you were talking to me, darling.   ::MonkeyTongue::






You are to me, Bearly!


Elmo just sayin... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks, darling.

Fozzie Bear just replyin...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 10:45:53 AM
I think Casey didnt call 911 was becasue she had been lying to her parents for a year about having a job, she had stolen money from her parents and her grandparents and racked up the credit card.  She might of thought they would think she killed Caylee on purpose.  Her behaviour had been bad way before Caylee was missing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 10:47:07 AM
Hi, everyone, I've been researching this possible link this morning & want to know what everyone thinks. There is a sand lake condos that sits in the middle of where universal, disney & seaworld are located. In 2004 to 2005? it was called "bella vita" owned by laramar. It is located on Latrec which is just off "Cindy st." There are 2 lakes there. Didn't Casey work at universal during this time period? She had to know about this place & maybe even checked into living there, or maybe knew someone that lived there. Valencia Community college is also just 5 minutes from there & that was brought up too. She drove to universal every day when she worked there, it's a 20 mile trip straight down the beeline express from hopespring. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, I don't know. I just want them to find Caylee so badly! With her tattoo "bella vida", & universal & valencia & cindy st. & the lakes around it & the vacant land around it & her knowing the area well & no one finding Caylee yet, I'm just pondering! Anyone?

Monken, anything is possible.  I think they are looking at the targets first that go along with the cell phone pings and any other difinitive evidence they have.  If they don't find her in any of those places, or at the Anthony house, she could be about anywhere...this girl got around.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 07, 2008, 10:49:00 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  Could today be the day that they put a close to this would'nt it be lovely but I think that everyday.  Did anything happen overnight


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 10:50:49 AM
Only a guess, but I think the internet searches for chloroform were made around the time Caylee went missing and found at the time of her arrest.  I don't think there was a need to search chloroform "after the fact".  That's JMO

That makes sense, I could have read it wrong, but it was what stuck in my head.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 07, 2008, 10:52:07 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on cloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presense of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possiblity of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

IIRC, Casey was in Jail at the time of the chloroform look up.  Does anyone know differently?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26532519/
Sources told WESH 2 the level of chloroform in her car was "suspiciously high." They also told WESH 2 that her computer confiscated within hours of her July arrest, show visits to Web sites with information on chloroform.

Doesn't say before or after...if after, that would be very damning to George (and perhaps Cindy)

According to the document release, the laptop was taken at the same time as the vehicle and other evidence on 7/16. It appears on pg.33 of doc. 3


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrskub on September 07, 2008, 10:54:55 AM
Security Cameras Installed At Anthony Home
Sunday, September 07, 2008 10:09:15 AM


ORLANDO -- Workers began installing security cameras around the home of Caylee Anthony's grandparents, where the missing 3-year-old's mother, Casey, is staying after being bailed out of jail.

A security company showed up Saturday at the home of George and Cindy Anthony to install the cameras, presumably for family's protection.

The cameras are becoming necessary as crowds continue to gather outside the home, and neighbors try to take back their street.

News 13 learned a gun was taken from the spare tire well of George Anthony's SUV early Saturday morning. See previous story.

Having a gun on the property is a violation of Casey Anthony's bail, but the judge who issued the bail said Casey would not be taken back into custody, since it seemed she was unaware of the gun.

As for the search for Caylee Anthony, hundreds of volunteers showed up Saturday to help the mounted search and recovery group Texas EquuSearch to look for the missing toddler.

For information on how you can volunteer, call Texas EquuSearch at (866) 473-1584.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/7/security_cameras_installed_at_anthony_home.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 10:57:01 AM
 ::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 10:58:12 AM
http://www.local6.com/news/17412640/detail.html

Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom
Life-Sized 'Caylee Doll,' 'Baby Killer' Signs Waved Outside Anthony Home

POSTED: 7:55 am EDT September 7, 2008
UPDATED: 8:05 am EDT September 7, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Florida tourists and other families are traveling to the home of Casey Anthony for a chance to see and possibly photograph the woman and chaos in her neighborhood.

The vacationing Parry family abandoned their vacation plans over the weekend, grabbed a camera and traveled to the home of Caylee Anthony's mother and family in Orange County.

"This is our last day before we go back (to Missouri) and we just had to see it for ourselves," Florida vacationer Tony Parry said.

Another family from Christmas, Fla., with eight children was seen posing for photographs in front of the Anthony home Saturday night.

"There has to be closure somehow, this will never end," a woman said late Saturday.

When Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy, stepped outside of the house Saturday, a man yelled, "You are going to burn in hell, Cindy" and others insulted her.

Saturday night there were about 100 people standing outside the home watching her.

'Caylee Doll' Waved


Meanwhile, protesters who appeared after Casey Anthony returned to her Orange County home said they refuse to leave while the woman's daughter, Caylee, 3, remains missing.

A life-sized baby doll held by one of the men in the crowd had a sign that read, "Hi, I'm Caylee. Have you seen my mommy?"

"Tell the truth," Greg May said as he held the doll. "Tell the truth. The truth will set you free. I don't see how those people sleep at night."

On Friday, several fights and acts of violence erupted outside the home.

Officers responded to the Anthony family's Orange County home after people began to rip signs and throw punches at each other. A man was seen being struck in the face by another man outside the Anthony home.

"You are all big and bad to kill a baby, but you can't come out and face us," a protester yelled when police arrived.

"You people hold signs that mean nothing, and you know nothing about," another person in the crowd yelled.

Several neighbors said they are fed up with the chaos the case has brought to their neighborhood.

"We have been putting up with this for six weeks," a neighbor said. "My kid can't play outside, and we can't leave the house without people trying to run us over."

Some people said they refuse to leave the Anthony house or neighborhood until Casey Anthony is returned to jail.

"We are going to be here every night until she comes out (with the truth)," protester James Harris said.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 10:59:59 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17393803/detail.html

Protestors Say They'll Be Back At Anthony Home

POSTED: 5:20 pm EDT September 4, 2008
UPDATED: 8:39 am EDT September 7, 2008


ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Protestors continued to spend hours in front of the Anthony family home, demanding Casey Anthony tell investigators where her daughter Caylee is.

Unlike Friday night, Saturday's protests were peaceful. People shouted at George, Cindy (Casey's parents) and Lee (Casey's brother) Anthony as they went in and out of the home. Some protestors said they planned to return Sunday.

Friday night Fistfights broke out and sheriff's deputies were called to the Anthony family home as tensions boiled over between neighbors and people protesting Casey Anthony's release from jail.

Early Saturday morning, Orange County sheriff's deputies removed a gun from the trunk of George Anthony's car. The discovery of a weapon in Casey’s Anthony’s presence could have sent her back to jail. The Home Confinement Agreement, signed by Casey, prohibits her from having deadly weapons in her possession, residence, or vehicle.

Orange County Corrections informed the duty judge of the incident, but a spokesman for Orange County Corrections said a judge ruled that Casey presumably had nothing to do with the weapon. She remains on home confinement.

Neighbors are fed up. They said they can’t spend peaceful time outside and their children are forced to stay inside.

Casey Anthony was released from jail Friday for the second time. Anthony, who was wearing a shirt with her missing daughter Caylee’s picture on it, was hurried out of the jail doors accompanied by her attorney, Jose Baez, and at least two bodyguards who shoved their way through the waiting crowd of reporters and photographers. Casey was asked repeatedly where Caylee was. She ignored the questions. Baez held his arm around her and she buried her face into him as they rushed to a waiting SUV. The SUV was clocked going more than 70 mph in a 55 mph zone as it headed to the house. When it arrived, the SUV pulled into the garage and the door closed.

The Anthonys made no comment.
(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Katysmom on September 07, 2008, 11:00:38 AM
This has been driving me crazy....ive been reading up on chloroform and heres something I found:

Chloroform is formed in water when the disinfectant chlorine reacts with organic compounds. In pools, chlorine reacts with skin scales, some skin creams and other organic materials to form chloroform.

Maybe Caylee did drown in the pool and Casey put her in the backyard and then transferred her to the trunk of the car.  It would explain the dogs hitting in the backyard and in the trunk and the presence of chloroform in the trunk.
::MonkeyEek::OMG....thanks for that info Kat.

Good Morning Monkeys.

Just to clear something up. The dogs would NOT have alerted if Caylee had just died and had been laid on the ground or in the trunk. They alert on the presence of decomposition.

Also, while there is a slim possibility of the chlorine to chloroform explanation (which I am not sure is even possible in this cas), it does not however explain why Casey was on the computer researching chloroform.
Thank you MrsKub
Could have been any of the Anthony's on the computer looking up chloroform.

IIRC, Casey was in Jail at the time of the chloroform look up.  Does anyone know differently?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26532519/
Sources told WESH 2 the level of chloroform in her car was "suspiciously high." They also told WESH 2 that her computer confiscated within hours of her July arrest, show visits to Web sites with information on chloroform.

Doesn't say before or after...if after, that would be very damning to George (and perhaps Cindy)
I don't think that LE has released any evidence they confiscated from the house.  That would mean the chloroform lookups had to be done before Casey was arrested the first time. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 07, 2008, 11:01:53 AM
2 page article.....posting a bit of it, then read the rest at the link.

Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

September 7, 2008
Orange County investigators have suggested in recent weeks that missing 3-year-old Caylee Marie Anthony may be dead.

But can they prove it?

Nearly two months after Caylee's disappearance became public, the search for a child, living or dead, continues. Authorities have charged the toddler's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, with child neglect, but she remains a "person of interest" in what could turn out to be a homicide case.

If no girl is found, legal experts say that prosecuting anyone for murder would be a challenge -- but it has been done.

"If the body has not been found or recovered, [prosecutors] must present circumstantial evidence that allows the jury to conclude the victim is dead and died at the hands of the defendant," said Charles Putnam, a former prosecutor and researcher at Justiceworks, a research group in justice studies at the University of New Hampshire.

In most homicide cases, prosecutors have a body as direct evidence that a killing took place.

Investigators in Modesto, Calif., waited until the bodies of Laci Peterson and her unborn child were found in 2003 before they charged her husband, Scott Peterson, who had been identified as a person of interest for months.

Without a body, circumstantial evidence becomes key.

This can include evidence acquired by crime-scene investigators, statements from witnesses, and details about the behavior and actions of the suspect in the crime. To prove a circumstantial case, the information presented at trial must be sufficient to convince a jury that a murder is the only reasonable explanation of what took place.

much more at the link......
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blonde on September 07, 2008, 11:02:44 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Documents/Globe1.png)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Documents/Globe2.png)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/Blondeonahd/Casey%20Anthony/Documents/Globe3.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 11:03:24 AM
I sure wish they could spell PROTESTOR correctly, they only work
for a news organization for crying outloud! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 11:06:03 AM
I dont see why the Anthonys had the security camera installed.  The whole world is watching them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 11:07:17 AM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

(http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/images/2008/09/07/dscn0818.jpg)

September 07, 2008
Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Cyber Search
I am still on the scene in Orlando, Florida, helping look for Casey Anthony's missing daughter, three-year-old Caylee Anthony.

I have been receiving hundreds of emails from readers who are unable to get involved in the search, but who would like me to look at specific areas (Jay Blanchard Park) and to photograph specific places (location of the dumpster).

Given the fact that so many people are out looking again today, I have decided to devote the entire day to YOU.

I am going to start with Jay Blanchard Park, but from there I will go to wherever you send me. If you have a specific area where you want me to go, leave a comment at the bottom of this blog entery, along with the physical address for that location. Obviously, I cannot explore large wooded areas by myself, so please keep your suggestions to areas which are feasible for me to look at or photograph.

I need the physical address for whichever location you send me to so that I can spend my time traveling there, rather than going through the time consuming task of looking it up myself.

Please note that comments here are moderated, so don't become concerned if yours does not go up the instant you post it. Whenever I leave a specific location, I will check back here to see where you want me to go next.

Texas EquuSearch has my cell phone number and they have promised to keep me informed of any breaks in the case.

Now is your chance to get involved!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 11:08:43 AM
I dont see why the Anthonys had the security camera installed.  The whole world is watching them.

yah seriously....then again its all about THEM.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 11:10:54 AM
Posted by someone that searched at Websleuths:

Quote from: Rgr8boyz;2637318
Just some info......

Me and 2 others attended the search yesterday(Sat.) There were over 1000 people. Very Hot and Humid. The command post provided unlimited amounts of water, bug spray and were very thankful for each and every volunteer that attended. I was told 3 or more times, thank you for helping with the search.

Our group contained 15 people. We met at a local store parking lot and walked to the search area. We made a 50 foot line with 15 people. We searched in MUD, Nasty ant infested water. The grass and briars were at least up to my thighs and I am 5'8. No hunter would even walk in these conditions. We searched around trees, thinking maybe it would be used as a marker for her later return. We lifted up 8x4 pieces of old tin roofs(rusted), searched under and over every tree stump. We dug up any noticeable mounds of dirt that looked suspcious. We were notified that it is all CONFIDENT info, so cant say what or if we found anything that related to the case. But, it was snake infested, BEES, ANTS and Creepy THINGS EVERYWHERE!!!! We did go off of all roads. If you saw them on a path, they were probably waiting for the others in the group to catch up with the team leader. All groups have a min. of 15 people. They had to do a head count every few minutes, because of the heat and the ages of some of the volunteers.

There was a grandmother of 14 and 2 great grandchildren. She must have been at least 70. She came out ALL by herself... We had to help her thru a bobwired fence. She was slow, but she was determined!!!!!

FYI- we had to wear long sleeves!!! the skeeters were BAD!! Sitting water from the hurricane was everywhere. Heavy backpacks with water, etc.

Would love to go again today, but my legs are killing me!!!

 

I really enjoyed it, even though it was blistering hot!!! I encourage anyone to join a search. It was a life changing experience!!! I have 4 boys and would love for people to help me if I needed it.. Have a Blessed Day!!

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 11:13:01 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 11:13:21 AM
All of the MyFox Orlando webcams are "stuck on stupid" this morning  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck20mobilecam.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: WillenFan21 on September 07, 2008, 11:16:21 AM
Anything big going on today? I just rolled out of bed.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 11:18:14 AM
Anything big going on today? I just rolled out of bed.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Nope, not yet  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 11:18:19 AM
Back in business!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:18:44 AM
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/

(http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/images/2008/09/07/dscn0818.jpg)

September 07, 2008
Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Cyber Search
I am still on the scene in Orlando, Florida, helping look for Casey Anthony's missing daughter, three-year-old Caylee Anthony.

I have been receiving hundreds of emails from readers who are unable to get involved in the search, but who would like me to look at specific areas (Jay Blanchard Park) and to photograph specific places (location of the dumpster).

Given the fact that so many people are out looking again today, I have decided to devote the entire day to YOU.

I am going to start with Jay Blanchard Park, but from there I will go to wherever you send me. If you have a specific area where you want me to go, leave a comment at the bottom of this blog entery, along with the physical address for that location. Obviously, I cannot explore large wooded areas by myself, so please keep your suggestions to areas which are feasible for me to look at or photograph.

I need the physical address for whichever location you send me to so that I can spend my time traveling there, rather than going through the time consuming task of looking it up myself.

Please note that comments here are moderated, so don't become concerned if yours does not go up the instant you post it. Whenever I leave a specific location, I will check back here to see where you want me to go next.

Texas EquuSearch has my cell phone number and they have promised to keep me informed of any breaks in the case.

Now is your chance to get involved!

Hmmmm,I thought this guy was working with Tim and Texas Equusearch and TES does not allow picture taking while searching?
Maybe that's why he is going off alone to search.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 11:19:17 AM
Klaas, Thank you for the above posts.  God Bless all those people searching for lovely little Caylee in those hideous conditions.  I'm thankful that the search numbers have gone up considerably, more ground covered, more people caring.  It makes me sad that so many people gave all they could to find this baby and her own family won't help.  The truth could end this whole charade right now, if only her family loved her as much as the rest of us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 11:19:24 AM
2 page article.....posting a bit of it, then read the rest at the link.

Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

September 7, 2008
Orange County investigators have suggested in recent weeks that missing 3-year-old Caylee Marie Anthony may be dead.

But can they prove it?

Nearly two months after Caylee's disappearance became public, the search for a child, living or dead, continues. Authorities have charged the toddler's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, with child neglect, but she remains a "person of interest" in what could turn out to be a homicide case.

If no girl is found, legal experts say that prosecuting anyone for murder would be a challenge -- but it has been done.

"If the body has not been found or recovered, [prosecutors] must present circumstantial evidence that allows the jury to conclude the victim is dead and died at the hands of the defendant," said Charles Putnam, a former prosecutor and researcher at Justiceworks, a research group in justice studies at the University of New Hampshire.

In most homicide cases, prosecutors have a body as direct evidence that a killing took place.

Investigators in Modesto, Calif., waited until the bodies of Laci Peterson and her unborn child were found in 2003 before they charged her husband, Scott Peterson, who had been identified as a person of interest for months.

Without a body, circumstantial evidence becomes key.

This can include evidence acquired by crime-scene investigators, statements from witnesses, and details about the behavior and actions of the suspect in the crime. To prove a circumstantial case, the information presented at trial must be sufficient to convince a jury that a murder is the only reasonable explanation of what took place.

much more at the link......
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story

There was a guy on Nancy Grace the other night (I think it was NG).. he said there was a case recently where the body hadn't been found, but the guy was tried and convicted of murder. He was given a lesser sentence for leading police to the body, after the trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 11:20:02 AM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::

If I was the HOA, I'd be kicking their asses all the way to Disney World Hotel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: anothermonkey on September 07, 2008, 11:22:27 AM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::

If I was the HOA, I'd be kicking their asses all the way to Disney World Hotel.

It looks f'ing ridiculous.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: can on September 07, 2008, 11:23:36 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Rob on September 07, 2008, 11:25:54 AM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::

If I was the HOA, I'd be kicking their asses all the way to Disney World Hotel.

doesn't that tell ya something?

some people can not escape their subconscious...and this group of cadaver hiding morons run on emotions.

If you want people away from your property and you just landed a cool 1 million, why not call a fence company?

I know I know, someone will yell - zoning limitations. LOL

I will not be surprised at all if Caylee is still on that property... not surprised one bit.

stranger things have happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: tcumom on September 07, 2008, 11:26:54 AM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::
yep ~ trying to hold together their web of deceit.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 11:28:14 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 11:28:33 AM
Remind me again of the latest reason casey can't tell where Caylee is.  Is it because she is afraid whoever has her may harm her or the person who took her doesn't know she is missing yet, or is it because the people who took her know they are being watched by the people watching the people who are watching the people who took her?? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:30:22 AM
All of the MyFox Orlando webcams are "stuck on stupid" this morning  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck20mobilecam.html
::MonkeyLaugh:: Stupido stalker cams.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 11:30:52 AM
!!!! Look on killer cam! What is in the driveway????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on September 07, 2008, 11:30:57 AM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?







I think they need to empty the pool and look under there too.  BTW, I have been running for weeks to catch up with you guys, slow downnnnnn! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Walter819 on September 07, 2008, 11:31:40 AM
If you will look at her lies about her cell phone you can see where the LE are looking They already have the records from the lost cell phone , I do not care if she said she lost it or not , They know there was no ZG .... They are probably getting pings from old phone a new phone .... could be wrong but  thats what is see the dates of the ping should be from 16 to 24 , nobody where she cashed checks , bank, friends or anybody has notseen her with or heard little Caylee JG recanted his statement saying he could not be sure , And if she did say " Get off the table " it was probaly a lie to cover her tracks....I still say she panicked , buried her in backyard , panicked again when she learned parent where going to be working in back yard, moved her , rode around with her in the trunk , probably while she was shopping at Target , Winn Dixie, until she found her final resting place  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:32:13 AM
Back in business!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

 ::MonkeyWink::
Wow....is that a ginormous tire on the driveway? ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 11:32:32 AM
Remind me again of the latest reason casey can't tell where Caylee is.  Is it because she is afraid whoever has her may harm her or the person who took her doesn't know she is missing yet, or is it because the people who took her know they are being watched by the people watching the people who are watching the people who took her?? ::MonkeyConfused::

That, and the all powerful Zenaida, and her sister Samantha, are going to swoop down to harm the nasty family . . . or harm Caylee--who is quite possibly as harmed as she can be . . . dead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 11:32:40 AM
There was what appeared to be a tire the size of the garage!  What would that go to??
Not kidding it was as big as the top of the garage doors!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 11:33:09 AM
!!!! Look on killer cam! What is in the driveway????

It did look like a giant tire didnt it?  LOL!  I think it was just the camera caught the end of a tire on a jeep like vehicle going by.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 11:33:32 AM
2 page article.....posting a bit of it, then read the rest at the link.

Can murder be proved without a body? There are ways

September 7, 2008
Orange County investigators have suggested in recent weeks that missing 3-year-old Caylee Marie Anthony may be dead.

But can they prove it?

Nearly two months after Caylee's disappearance became public, the search for a child, living or dead, continues. Authorities have charged the toddler's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, with child neglect, but she remains a "person of interest" in what could turn out to be a homicide case.

If no girl is found, legal experts say that prosecuting anyone for murder would be a challenge -- but it has been done.

"If the body has not been found or recovered, [prosecutors] must present circumstantial evidence that allows the jury to conclude the victim is dead and died at the hands of the defendant," said Charles Putnam, a former prosecutor and researcher at Justiceworks, a research group in justice studies at the University of New Hampshire.

In most homicide cases, prosecutors have a body as direct evidence that a killing took place.

Investigators in Modesto, Calif., waited until the bodies of Laci Peterson and her unborn child were found in 2003 before they charged her husband, Scott Peterson, who had been identified as a person of interest for months.

Without a body, circumstantial evidence becomes key.

This can include evidence acquired by crime-scene investigators, statements from witnesses, and details about the behavior and actions of the suspect in the crime. To prove a circumstantial case, the information presented at trial must be sufficient to convince a jury that a murder is the only reasonable explanation of what took place.

much more at the link......
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-murder0708sep07,0,931506.story

There was a guy on Nancy Grace the other night (I think it was NG).. he said there was a case recently where the body hadn't been found, but the guy was tried and convicted of murder. He was given a lesser sentence for leading police to the body, after the trial.

Hans Reiser

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/04/reiser-guilty-o.html (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/04/reiser-guilty-o.html)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Katysmom on September 07, 2008, 11:34:51 AM
I think the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from is the one who reported seeing her back into the garage. I don't know if he reported a time, but since she was calling home at 1:11, and by deduction she borrowed the shovel at approx 1:30, I would think it was between 1:15 and 1:25.

My understanding is that it wasn't a cemenet patio but pavers. I don't know if there was concrete between them or not.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think LE checked those pavers.

Do you remember the date when the car was left at Amscot?

June 27

Thank you.

You're welcome, Mammy! That would be 9 days from the 18th. It alsways made some sense to me that she was praying someone would steal the car or at least break into it. I think that's why there was a purse left in the seat. She wanted a crook's fingerprints on that car. I think she knew the forensics in the car would tell the tale, and she wanted to muddy the water.

A few car thieves did notice the car sitting there but decided against taking it since it had "SLORE" written all over it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 11:35:26 AM
You know what I find interesting...

Tony picks her up with bags of groceries in her hands...


...but there really isn't a grocery store in that complex...

I guess you could technically get them at the Sam's club next door...

but she'd have to have a membership.


The groceries really put a damper on the ran out of gas story for me...

not that I would ever believe anything she'd say, anyway.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 11:38:35 AM
Back in business!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

 ::MonkeyWink::
Wow....is that a ginormous tire on the driveway? ::MonkeyEek::



Wonder what that belonged to???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:39:02 AM
!!!! Look on killer cam! What is in the driveway????

It did look like a giant tire didnt it?  LOL!  I think it was just the camera caught the end of a tire on a jeep like vehicle going by.
Oh,lol....another stupido stalker cam optical illusion!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 11:39:39 AM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::

If I was the HOA, I'd be kicking their asses all the way to Disney World Hotel.

HA! That crime scene tape should be wrapped around the entire house!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Walter819 on September 07, 2008, 11:40:32 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 11:40:54 AM
ROFLMAO - what it is is the tire on the back of a SUV driving by in the street (I think):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/mobilecam1-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 11:41:53 AM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::

If I was the HOA, I'd be kicking their asses all the way to Disney World Hotel.

HA! That crime scene tape should be wrapped around the entire house!

Installing crime scene tape at that house is the only authentic thing these nutjobs have done since this fiasco started.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 11:43:48 AM
ROFLMAO - what it is is the tire on the back of a SUV driving by in the street (I think):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/mobilecam1-1.jpg)

LOL Oh crap!  I do see it that way now!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 11:44:16 AM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:44:36 AM
ROFLMAO - what it is is the tire on the back of a SUV driving by in the street (I think):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/mobilecam1-1.jpg)
LOL....it did look like George had gotten a new bionic truck for a minute there. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 11:44:52 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing

Cindy also originally said that happened on the night of June 8th.  Cindy wouldn't know the day/date if you plastered a calendar to her forehead.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/cam090708b.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 07, 2008, 11:46:07 AM
ROFLMAO - what it is is the tire on the back of a SUV driving by in the street (I think):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/mobilecam1-1.jpg)

LOL Oh crap!  I do see it that way now!!

It's George's spare wheel from wheel well lmao ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:47:24 AM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 11:48:01 AM
ROFLMAO - what it is is the tire on the back of a SUV driving by in the street (I think):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/mobilecam1-1.jpg)

LOL Oh crap!  I do see it that way now!!

It's George's spare wheel from wheel well lmao ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


That would of been so funny if someone had put a huge tire in the driveway


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 11:48:12 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing

We already know that Cindy is willing and able to lie.  (thinking about how pizza does not smell like death no matter what you do to it.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: can on September 07, 2008, 11:48:57 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing
Yes, that's true she said that - But that doesn't mean Casey and Caylee didn't leave the house afterwards. 
I have never seen where Cindy was questioned as to whether she saw Casey's car at the residence on the morning of June 16th, before she left for work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 11:49:18 AM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::

If I was the HOA, I'd be kicking their asses all the way to Disney World Hotel.

HA! That crime scene tape should be wrapped around the entire house!

Installing crime scene tape at that house is the only authentic thing these nutjobs have done since this fiasco started.


The crime scene tape should be wrapped around Caseys neck!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:50:46 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing

Cindy also originally said that happened on the night of June 8th.  Cindy wouldn't know the day/date if you plastered a calendar to her forehead.
But isn't it strange all 3 of them(Casey,Cindy&George)stuck to that 6/9 date till they were proven wrong by the father's day nursing home video?Cindy did take all the blame for having the wrong date....she implied the reason they all got the date(Caylee was last seen alive)was because of her....in the Greta interview.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 07, 2008, 11:51:06 AM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::

If I was the HOA, I'd be kicking their asses all the way to Disney World Hotel.

HA! That crime scene tape should be wrapped around the entire house!

Installing crime scene tape at that house is the only authentic thing these nutjobs have done since this fiasco started.


The crime scene tape should be wrapped around Caseys neck!

You know the neighbors have got to be loving that shit


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:51:41 AM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/cam090708b.jpg)
Is that Cindy? ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 11:51:47 AM
Where is everybody................Church?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 11:53:39 AM
ROFLMAO - what it is is the tire on the back of a SUV driving by in the street (I think):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/mobilecam1-1.jpg)

LOL Oh crap!  I do see it that way now!!

It's George's spare wheel from wheel well lmao ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


That would of been so funny if someone had put a huge tire in the driveway
I was kinda hoping that tire belonged to a BIG backhoe.....to start digging up thier whole yard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 11:55:10 AM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I'm thinking that George didn't know until after the 24th, when he reported gas cans missing, but he could have know earlier and used the gas can information to establish the 24th instead of the 16th.

I think Casey came back on the 18th (after using the Anthonys' shovel)  expecting to use the shovel, but it was locked up.  When Casey couldn't get the shovel to dig up Caylee, she borrowed the neighbor's shovel.

If Casey had been able to get the gas cans on the 18th, she would have used the Anthonys' shovel.  I believe she backed the car up to the house to get Caylee, not to deliver Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 07, 2008, 11:55:51 AM
Why don't the police get a warrant to dig up the back yard..I would think with the dogs hitting there it would be enough for probable cause..I can tell casey's not worried about the searchers right now because her daughter's in that yard.

They also need to concider it had been almost 30 days when casey borrowed the shovel. The yard could have settled depending on the rain and activity in the yard. My family dug a pond in our back yard and we used the the peices of old grass and it only took about 12 days to reperk up the old grass.

I feel everything the police are looking for is fresh and it's not she is 30 days ahead of them...Dig Up The Yard!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Katysmom on September 07, 2008, 11:56:32 AM
Cindy told Greta that they had kids use their pool without their permission.  Kids don't care if there is ladder there or not.  It's called pool hopping and not too many kids go behind a wooden fence with barking dogs to wake up the owners. She mumbled here way throught that one.
Red flag of a lie.

Can you tell I am a reformed pool hopper?

I some how doubt that Cindy allowed neighborhood kids in her precious yard.  The man that borrowed Casey the shovel had to describe to his son what Casey looked like in case she came to the door while he was upstairs.  The Anthonys' are not neighborly


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: can on September 07, 2008, 11:56:37 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing

Cindy also originally said that happened on the night of June 8th.  Cindy wouldn't know the day/date if you plastered a calendar to her forehead.
But isn't it strange all 3 of them(Casey,Cindy&George)stuck to that 6/9 date till they were proven wrong by the father's day nursing home video?Cindy did take all the blame for having the wrong date....she implied the reason they all got the date(Caylee was last seen alive)was because of her....in the Greta interview.
Strange indeed! -



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 11:57:16 AM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing

Cindy also originally said that happened on the night of June 8th.  Cindy wouldn't know the day/date if you plastered a calendar to her forehead.
But isn't it strange all 3 of them(Casey,Cindy&George)stuck to that 6/9 date till they were proven wrong by the father's day nursing home video?Cindy did take all the blame for having the wrong date....she implied the reason they all got the date(Caylee was last seen alive)was because of her....in the Greta interview.


I think they kept to the 6/9 date to further confuse the timeline and mask the Big Blowup on 6/15.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 11:57:37 AM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 11:58:06 AM
ROFLMAO - what it is is the tire on the back of a SUV driving by in the street (I think):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/mobilecam1-1.jpg)

LOL Oh crap!  I do see it that way now!!

It's George's spare wheel from wheel well lmao ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


That would of been so funny if someone had put a huge tire in the driveway
I was kinda hoping that tire belonged to a BIG backhoe.....to start digging up thier whole yard.

You and me both Karma lol.  I thought TES showed up!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 11:58:17 AM
 ::MonkeyCool:: On the 911 call which was made on 7/16 - Casey said she had not seen Caylee in 31 days.  Then she said it was 6/9 that the"nanny" took her.  Her math doesn't quite add up.  Anybody have a callender.  6/16 to 7/16 - how many days is that? 6/9 to 7/16 - is how many days?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 07, 2008, 12:02:08 PM
is there anyone on here from orlando to answer my question? I was wondering her in illinois we have cameras on the street lights and some business parking lots. Does anyone know if they have anything like this in orlando?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 12:02:45 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I'm thinking that George didn't know until after the 24th, when he reported gas cans missing, but he could have know earlier and used the gas can information to establish the 24th instead of the 16th.

I think Casey came back on the 18th (after using the Anthonys' shovel)  expecting to use the shovel, but it was locked up.  When Casey couldn't get the shovel to dig up Caylee, she borrowed the neighbor's shovel.

If Casey had been able to get the gas cans on the 18th, she would have used the Anthonys' shovel.  I believe she backed the car up to the house to get Caylee, not to deliver Caylee.
Aahh......Now that makes perfect sense to me!
LE did take the neighbors shovel as evidence,I am praying they found evidence on it.
OK,George is not positive about the date of the shed breakin/gascans being stolen.Dang,I just noticed the days between when she borrowed the shovel(6/18)and when George reported shed breakin.I assumed she used the borrowed shovel to break into the shed?Hmmmm....thinking.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 12:06:10 PM
Whats kinda creepy to me is if you put 2 big dormer windows on the roof of the Anthonys house and made it bigger, their house looks alot like mine...our landscaping is alot nicer tho...lol!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Rob on September 07, 2008, 12:06:26 PM
If this was my daughter that I just bailed / bonded out, I would have told her there is no way I will bond you out unless you tell exactly where Caylee's body is located. No way Jose.

The fact that the family has be presented with quite a lot of proof by the LE and by her own lying ways, indicates to me that they are not in denial and never were (I've said this before and so have others). According to Leonard Padilla (I take that with a grain of salt), Lee Cindy and Casey were presented with even more evidence either last Wednesday or the Wednesday before. This is the statement where he left George out.

The fact the family still does not want Caylee found and continue to make it hard if not next to impossible tells me that they are involved. How can you deny that? How can the LE deny that?

The LE would be completely justified in searching all of George or Cindy's cell records and pings. Mainly George as he put himself at the car with his audacious gas can story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: sleddogs on September 07, 2008, 12:06:33 PM
Here ya go George, looks like you supply might be getting low.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing

Cindy also originally said that happened on the night of June 8th.  Cindy wouldn't know the day/date if you plastered a calendar to her forehead.
But isn't it strange all 3 of them(Casey,Cindy&George)stuck to that 6/9 date till they were proven wrong by the father's day nursing home video?Cindy did take all the blame for having the wrong date....she implied the reason they all got the date(Caylee was last seen alive)was because of her....in the Greta interview.


I think they kept to the 6/9 date to further confuse the timeline and mask the Big Blowup on 6/15.
That's what I'm thinking too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 12:08:38 PM
 ::MonkeyRoll::


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/ertertetre.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 12:09:02 PM
Posted on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/myfoxblog1.jpg)

http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1749


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Deenie on September 07, 2008, 12:09:07 PM
::MonkeyDance::


(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/liar9608-1-2.jpg)


::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 12:09:19 PM
JMO I don't think anybody broke into George's shed.  I think he was laying the groundwork for a coverup. George found something in that trunk on the 24th, same day gas can were reported missing.  Could Caylee have been in the trunk from the 18th to the 24th?  She sure could have.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 07, 2008, 12:09:42 PM
::MonkeyRoll::


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/ertertetre.png)

Carpe you are so bad lmao ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 12:09:45 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY


LE should know exactly where Casey's calls originate.  Could be you are absolutely correct; still, it could be Casey was checking to be sure the parents weren't on their way home.  I haven't heard if it was routine for both the parents to set their phones to voicemail during their work.

Which Tony did Casey call . . . the cop?  Was the phonecall to Jesse (about Caylee getting off the table) on 6/16, and part of Jesse's recanting?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 12:09:59 PM
If this was my daughter that I just bailed / bonded out, I would have told her there is no way I will bond you out unless you tell exactly where Caylee's body is located. No way Jose.

The fact that the family has be presented with quite a lot of proof by the LE and by her own lying ways, indicates to me that they are not in denial and never were (I've said this before and so have others). According to Leonard Padilla (I take that with a grain of salt), Lee Cindy and Casey were presented with even more evidence either last Wednesday or the Wednesday before. This is the statement where he left George out.

The fact the family still does not want Caylee found and continue to make it hard if not next to impossible tells me that they are involved. How can you deny that? How can the LE deny that?

The LE would be completely justified in searching all of George or Cindy's cell records and pings. Mainly George as he put himself at the car with his audacious gas can story.


Exactly!  I just think the LE wants to get everything perfect so the double jeopardy thing doesnt come into play.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 12:10:09 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY

Wait,are all of these calls from 6/16?Then no calls(that we know of)on 6/17.....then more calls on 6/18?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 12:11:00 PM
is there anyone on here from orlando to answer my question? I was wondering her in illinois we have cameras on the street lights and some business parking lots. Does anyone know if they have anything like this in orlando?

I know some business places in Orlando do have cameras in the parking lots.  Not sure about the street light cameras.  I do believe that the TOLL ROADS would have cameras though.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 12:12:02 PM
::MonkeyRoll::


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/ertertetre.png)




LMAO!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:14:47 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I'm thinking that George didn't know until after the 24th, when he reported gas cans missing, but he could have know earlier and used the gas can information to establish the 24th instead of the 16th.

I think Casey came back on the 18th (after using the Anthonys' shovel)  expecting to use the shovel, but it was locked up.  When Casey couldn't get the shovel to dig up Caylee, she borrowed the neighbor's shovel.

If Casey had been able to get the gas cans on the 18th, she would have used the Anthonys' shovel.  I believe she backed the car up to the house to get Caylee, not to deliver Caylee.
Aahh......Now that makes perfect sense to me!
LE did take the neighbors shovel as evidence,I am praying they found evidence on it.
OK,George is not positive about the date of the shed breakin/gascans being stolen.Dang,I just noticed the days between when she borrowed the shovel(6/18)and when George reported shed breakin.I assumed she used the borrowed shovel to break into the shed?Hmmmm....thinking.....

It could be that the body was in the trunk on the 18th.  Casey makes a number of calls that day:

JUNE 18-

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Shortly after these calls, the neighbor sees Casey back into the garage (which he says she never does), then comes over to borrow a shovel.

She moves the body to the backyard (explaining the decomp the dogs detected).  She starts to dig a hole (the depression/disturbed area next to the pool), but it's hard work and she doesn't have much time.  She abandons the effort, returns the body to the trunk, and returns the shovel.

She returns to the house on June 22nd, bringing the kitchen knife found in the car, to break into the shed and steal the gas cans.  I also believe she stole a shovel (more on that later).  She disposes of the body somewhere on June 22nd.  Four days later, the smell in the car is unbearable, so she dumps it at the Amscot.

In early video of the garage, there is a shovel leaning against the wall.  As anal as those people are, the shovel would have been in the shed along with the rest of the tools.  Did George remove the shovel from the trunk when he cleaned out the car?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 12:16:56 PM
If this was my daughter that I just bailed / bonded out, I would have told her there is no way I will bond you out unless you tell exactly where Caylee's body is located. No way Jose.

The fact that the family has be presented with quite a lot of proof by the LE and by her own lying ways, indicates to me that they are not in denial and never were (I've said this before and so have others). According to Leonard Padilla (I take that with a grain of salt), Lee Cindy and Casey were presented with even more evidence either last Wednesday or the Wednesday before. This is the statement where he left George out.

The fact the family still does not want Caylee found and continue to make it hard if not next to impossible tells me that they are involved. How can you deny that? How can the LE deny that?

The LE would be completely justified in searching all of George or Cindy's cell records and pings. Mainly George as he put himself at the car with his audacious gas can story.


Rob, I don't believe George has been in denial for a long time.  I think he was the second to know--first was Casey.  mo, Cindy wasn't told until after she called 911 for the 3rd time.

It has been pointed out to me that Cindy could have been putting on an act because the tow yard guy smelled something very bad.  I don't go along with this notion because I don't believe Cindy would have called 911 or made a scene at the tow yard about discounts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 12:17:19 PM
What really has me scratching my head is CASEY telling friends that her parents home was going to be GIVEN to her??  WTF?

I'm a nice mom and all but WTF?  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mammy on September 07, 2008, 12:18:44 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I'm thinking that George didn't know until after the 24th, when he reported gas cans missing, but he could have know earlier and used the gas can information to establish the 24th instead of the 16th.

I think Casey came back on the 18th (after using the Anthonys' shovel)  expecting to use the shovel, but it was locked up.  When Casey couldn't get the shovel to dig up Caylee, she borrowed the neighbor's shovel.

If Casey had been able to get the gas cans on the 18th, she would have used the Anthonys' shovel.  I believe she backed the car up to the house to get Caylee, not to deliver Caylee.
Aahh......Now that makes perfect sense to me!
LE did take the neighbors shovel as evidence,I am praying they found evidence on it.
OK,George is not positive about the date of the shed breakin/gascans being stolen.Dang,I just noticed the days between when she borrowed the shovel(6/18)and when George reported shed breakin.I assumed she used the borrowed shovel to break into the shed?Hmmmm....thinking.....

It could be that the body was in the trunk on the 18th.  Casey makes a number of calls that day:

JUNE 18-

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Shortly after these calls, the neighbor sees Casey back into the garage (which he says she never does), then comes over to borrow a shovel.

She moves the body to the backyard (explaining the decomp the dogs detected).  She starts to dig a hole (the depression/disturbed area next to the pool), but it's hard work and she doesn't have much time.  She abandons the effort, returns the body to the trunk, and returns the shovel.

She returns to the house on June 22nd, bringing the kitchen knife found in the car, to break into the shed and steal the gas cans.  I also believe she stole a shovel (more on that later).  She disposes of the body somewhere on June 22nd.  Four days later, the smell in the car is unbearable, so she dumps it at the Amscot.

In early video of the garage, there is a shovel leaning against the wall.  As anal as those people are, the shovel would have been in the shed along with the rest of the tools.  Did George remove the shovel from the trunk when he cleaned out the car?


The calls on the day she borrowed the shovel sounds like she was trying to make sure no one was home or on their way home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 07, 2008, 12:18:45 PM
is there anyone on here from Orlando to answer my question? I was wondering her in Illinois we have cameras on the street lights and some business parking lots. Does anyone know if they have anything like this in Orlando?

I know some business places in Orlando do have cameras in the parking lots.  Not sure about the street light cameras.  I do believe that the TOLL ROADS would have cameras though.

I ask this because they have solved a lot of crimes from cameras in parking lots and businesses across the street. I wonder if this has been checked by Orlando police or the FBI. I also know on  911 they had a satelite recording of the planes and the towers. They said there are satellite's that can view thing even in peoples back yards...HMMMM!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Rob on September 07, 2008, 12:19:05 PM
Remember the "CRATE"

I posted this pic - (http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/bluecrate1.jpg)

Tomm posted a similar pic... "CRATE" could mean different things to different people... to me it's pretty clear.. but after seeing that garage full of bins - that makes me think "CRATE" means "BIN" to Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 12:19:11 PM
Tourists Travel To See, Photograph Missing Caylee Anthony's Mom
Life-Sized 'Caylee Doll,' 'Baby Killer' Signs Waved Outside Anthony Home

POSTED: 7:55 am EDT September 7, 2008
UPDATED: 8:05 am EDT September 7, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Florida tourists and other families are traveling to the home of Casey Anthony for a chance to see and possibly photograph the woman and chaos in her neighborhood.


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 IMAGES: Fights Erupt Outside Anthony Home
 IMAGES: Casey Released From Jail
EXCLUSIVE IMAGES: CSI Checks Casey's Car
 IMAGES: Images Of Casey's Arrest
IMAGES: Missing Caylee Anthony Photos
IMAGES: Photos Of Casey Anthony Surface
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The vacationing Parry family abandoned their vacation plans over the weekend, grabbed a camera and traveled to the home of Caylee Anthony's mother and family in Orange County.

"This is our last day before we go back (to Missouri) and we just had to see it for ourselves," Florida vacationer Tony Parry said.

Another family from Christmas, Fla., with eight children was seen posing for photographs in front of the Anthony home Saturday night.

"There has to be closure somehow, this will never end," a woman said late Saturday.

When Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy, stepped outside of the house Saturday, a man yelled, "You are going to burn in hell, Cindy" and others insulted her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 12:19:28 PM
Hey I found George and Cindys wedding picture!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: kippy on September 07, 2008, 12:19:45 PM
What really has me scratching my head is CASEY telling friends that her parents home was going to be GIVEN to her??  WTF?

I'm a nice mom and all but WTF?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I agree,and even to take it a step further as to tell Amy she could move in with her??WTH?  Did she think Amy wouldn't notice that she was about to be homeless when this story didn't transpire??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 07, 2008, 12:19:55 PM
What really has me scratching my head is CASEY telling friends that her parents home was going to be GIVEN to her??  WTF?

I'm a nice mom and all but WTF?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yes me to Klas but just to hand your house over come on please, I honestly think that was a story to make her look like a big shot


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:20:38 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY

Wait,are all of these calls from 6/16?Then no calls(that we know of)on 6/17.....then more calls on 6/18?

Yes, those calls are from the 6/16.  The next call was 6/17 at 11 a.m., but they did not release who that call was to, or any calls after that on 6/17.  The calls released from 6/18 are:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:22:23 PM
TES is searching an area connected to the pings from the phone. Are they searching the pings from the 16th or the 18th?

I believe that Caylee had not been placed wherever she is now on the 16th. I believe that Casey's trip to the house when she backed in and borrowed the shovel (6/18) marks an effort to dispose of a body. I'm scared that Tim's efforts may prove futile where he's searching, despite searching where LE has requested.

Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 12:22:35 PM
What really has me scratching my head is CASEY telling friends that her parents home was going to be GIVEN to her??  WTF?

I'm a nice mom and all but WTF?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Klaas - don't be in dispair...............You just can't think like a crazy, crazy, crazy liar and that's a good thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: carpe noctem on September 07, 2008, 12:23:25 PM
Someone's KNOCK KNOCK KNOCKIN' at my door...

Someone is ringing the bell!



(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/uuiuiu.jpg)


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/iuui78787.jpg)


(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/iliketoN0KTEM/iuuiiu7788.jpg)


 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ck4 on September 07, 2008, 12:24:18 PM
Remember the "CRATE"

I posted this pic - (http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/bluecrate1.jpg)

Tomm posted a similar pic... "CRATE" could mean different things to different people... to me it's pretty clear.. but after seeing that garage full of bins - that makes me think "CRATE" means "BIN" to Cindy.

they also have blue crates in garage that look similiar to this one, on left side of garage.....There was a recent pic of it here on forum which showed the garage


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 12:24:20 PM
What really has me scratching my head is CASEY telling friends that her parents home was going to be GIVEN to her??  WTF?

I'm a nice mom and all but WTF?  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Not good to think too much on this; but . . . what if Casey had plans for the parents, stored the chloroform in the trunk, got into a rage and put Caylee in the trunk, too.  Could be considered negligent homicide, except for planning to dispense with the parents. 

Pure speculation.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 12:26:08 PM
ROFLMAO - what it is is the tire on the back of a SUV driving by in the street (I think):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/mobilecam1-1.jpg)

LOL Oh crap!  I do see it that way now!!

It's George's spare wheel from wheel well lmao ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


That would of been so funny if someone had put a huge tire in the driveway
I was kinda hoping that tire belonged to a BIG backhoe.....to start digging up thier whole yard.

You and me both Karma lol.  I thought TES showed up!
Maybe soon Kippy,soon. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 12:26:11 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY

Wait,are all of these calls from 6/16?Then no calls(that we know of)on 6/17.....then more calls on 6/18?


We're not hearing anything about calls on the 17th, which is strange.  Wonder if they pinged Casey's phone at Sawgrass.  Hmm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Rob on September 07, 2008, 12:27:10 PM
If this was my daughter that I just bailed / bonded out, I would have told her there is no way I will bond you out unless you tell exactly where Caylee's body is located. No way Jose.

The fact that the family has be presented with quite a lot of proof by the LE and by her own lying ways, indicates to me that they are not in denial and never were (I've said this before and so have others). According to Leonard Padilla (I take that with a grain of salt), Lee Cindy and Casey were presented with even more evidence either last Wednesday or the Wednesday before. This is the statement where he left George out.

The fact the family still does not want Caylee found and continue to make it hard if not next to impossible tells me that they are involved. How can you deny that? How can the LE deny that?

The LE would be completely justified in searching all of George or Cindy's cell records and pings. Mainly George as he put himself at the car with his audacious gas can story.


Rob, I don't believe George has been in denial for a long time.  I think he was the second to know--first was Casey.  mo, Cindy wasn't told until after she called 911 for the 3rd time.

It has been pointed out to me that Cindy could have been putting on an act because the tow yard guy smelled something very bad.  I don't go along with this notion because I don't believe Cindy would have called 911 or made a scene at the tow yard about discounts.

Hi Slogger - I agree, Cindy was the last to know or she would not have called 911.

funny thing about George as more evidence comes out his stories grow even more unbelievable. Like that is not my granddaughter in that car.... ahhh ok Geo  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:27:12 PM
TES is searching an area connected to the pings from the phone. Are they searching the pings from the 16th or the 18th?

I believe that Caylee had not been placed wherever she is now on the 16th. I believe that Casey's trip to the house when she backed in and borrowed the shovel (6/18) marks an effort to dispose of a body. I'm scared that Tim's efforts may prove futile where he's searching, despite searching where LE has requested.

Any thoughts?

I think TES is searching the area of the pings from the woods near the airport.  The pings were from 6/17, coincidentally the same day Zenaida Gonzalez' was at Sawgrass.  I think Caylee was dead by then and Casey was scouting areas to dispose of the body and setting up the Zenaida alibi.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: FLGrammy on September 07, 2008, 12:30:33 PM
They put up even more of that gosh awful crime scene tape! ::MonkeyNoNo::

If I was the HOA, I'd be kicking their asses all the way to Disney World Hotel.

HA! That crime scene tape should be wrapped around the entire house!


Exactly what I was thinking!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: flamom on September 07, 2008, 12:30:58 PM
is there anyone on here from orlando to answer my question? I was wondering her in illinois we have cameras on the street lights and some business parking lots. Does anyone know if they have anything like this in orlando?

I know some business places in Orlando do have cameras in the parking lots.  Not sure about the street light cameras.  I do believe that the TOLL ROADS would have cameras though.

most cities, towns and county roads here have been installing cams at intersections with traffic lights, but I havent seen one yet in any residential neighborhoods like the Addams family's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 12:31:36 PM
If this was my daughter that I just bailed / bonded out, I would have told her there is no way I will bond you out unless you tell exactly where Caylee's body is located. No way Jose.

The fact that the family has be presented with quite a lot of proof by the LE and by her own lying ways, indicates to me that they are not in denial and never were (I've said this before and so have others). According to Leonard Padilla (I take that with a grain of salt), Lee Cindy and Casey were presented with even more evidence either last Wednesday or the Wednesday before. This is the statement where he left George out.

The fact the family still does not want Caylee found and continue to make it hard if not next to impossible tells me that they are involved. How can you deny that? How can the LE deny that?

The LE would be completely justified in searching all of George or Cindy's cell records and pings. Mainly George as he put himself at the car with his audacious gas can story.
I agree Rob,this all goes way beyond simple denial.Cindy and George(Lee probably just going along for the ride,I'm sure he is used to his family by now)are obstructing an investigation and they should be treated as such!Take cadaver dogs into thier whole property,dig up all of the yard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 12:32:18 PM
If this was my daughter that I just bailed / bonded out, I would have told her there is no way I will bond you out unless you tell exactly where Caylee's body is located. No way Jose.

The fact that the family has be presented with quite a lot of proof by the LE and by her own lying ways, indicates to me that they are not in denial and never were (I've said this before and so have others). According to Leonard Padilla (I take that with a grain of salt), Lee Cindy and Casey were presented with even more evidence either last Wednesday or the Wednesday before. This is the statement where he left George out.

The fact the family still does not want Caylee found and continue to make it hard if not next to impossible tells me that they are involved. How can you deny that? How can the LE deny that?

The LE would be completely justified in searching all of George or Cindy's cell records and pings. Mainly George as he put himself at the car with his audacious gas can story.


Rob, I don't believe George has been in denial for a long time.  I think he was the second to know--first was Casey.  mo, Cindy wasn't told until after she called 911 for the 3rd time.

It has been pointed out to me that Cindy could have been putting on an act because the tow yard guy smelled something very bad.  I don't go along with this notion because I don't believe Cindy would have called 911 or made a scene at the tow yard about discounts.

Hi Slogger - I agree, Cindy was the last to know or she would not have called 911.

funny thing about George as more evidence comes out his stories grow even more unbelievable. Like that is not my granddaughter in that car.... ahhh ok Geo  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Oh YEAH!  Makes everyone wonder how many bodies there are, or have been in that trunk.

(We'll probably hear that it was a Mafia Cleaning Crew Car."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:32:29 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:33:07 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY

Wait,are all of these calls from 6/16?Then no calls(that we know of)on 6/17.....then more calls on 6/18?


We're not hearing anything about calls on the 17th, which is strange.  Wonder if they pinged Casey's phone at Sawgrass.  Hmm.

I'm wondering if the 11 a.m. phone call on the 17th was to Tony the cop asking him to run Zenaida's plates.  Maybe Casey saw her arriving or leaving and decided she was a good scapegoat/alibi.  Pings on the 17th also in the woods near the airport.  Scoping a disposal site?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 07, 2008, 12:33:59 PM
is there anyone on here from orlando to answer my question? I was wondering her in illinois we have cameras on the street lights and some business parking lots. Does anyone know if they have anything like this in orlando?

I know some business places in Orlando do have cameras in the parking lots.  Not sure about the street light cameras.  I do believe that the TOLL ROADS would have cameras though.

most cities, towns and county roads here have been installing cams at intersections with traffic lights, but I havent seen one yet in any residential neighborhoods like the Addams family's

I was wondering if they may have caught her on tape when she abandoned her car..I really want to know how they know to look for a rolled up rug and bin? Maybe they did catch something on tape somewhere. Is there anywhere we can get a copy on the net of the cell phone pings?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:34:39 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:36:35 PM
From June 15th, when we can document that Caylee was alive,
when are the first party pictures after June 15th? Are there any before the 20th?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: Katysmom on September 07, 2008, 12:37:37 PM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing

Cindy also originally said that happened on the night of June 8th.  Cindy wouldn't know the day/date if you plastered a calendar to her forehead.
But isn't it strange all 3 of them(Casey,Cindy&George)stuck to that 6/9 date till they were proven wrong by the father's day nursing home video?Cindy did take all the blame for having the wrong date....she implied the reason they all got the date(Caylee was last seen alive)was because of her....in the Greta interview.
Strange indeed! -



Is it possible that when Cindy went to the nursing home on June 15th, she just signed Caylee's name too to use for future reference.  Did anyone from the nursing home actually see Caylee come in with Cindy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:39:44 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.

Casey didn't waste any time on that day (6/18). The last call was 1:11pm and it was made to the house. According to the neighbor's statement, she was in the garage and borrowing a shovel by 1:30 pm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:41:14 PM
From June 15th, when we can document that Caylee was alive,
when are the first party pictures after June 15th? Are there any before the 20th?



I haven't seen any pictures between June 15th and June 19th.  There are some from the 13th, but I haven't seen any party pictures between the 13th and the 20th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 07, 2008, 12:41:22 PM
Cindy anthony's other lie.. She stated that she picked up or found her car today. She said it stated there was the smell in it( Stating the car was picked up before finding casey right?) On the 400 pages of document the towing company stated that when he walked george into the yard for the car george was telling him his grandaughter was missing for 31 days?? Now how would george know that if they found the car first??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 12:42:52 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.

Casey didn't waste any time on that day (6/18). The last call was 1:11pm and it was made to the house. According to the neighbor's statement, she was in the garage and borrowing a shovel by 1:30 pm.

No, no time wasted.  She got to it as soon as she established the coast was clear.  This is a very cold, calculated woman.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 12:44:17 PM
I love it...............my husband loves to say............Are you on "crazy monkeys?"  Whats going on with the "crazy monkeys"   Now he calls me his little crazy monkey.   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: SS on September 07, 2008, 12:49:59 PM
Klaas - have we had any confirmation from Red about whether or not the Anthony's have refused to provide the dog handlers with something belonging to Caylee that would be a scent source?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ldstlou on September 07, 2008, 12:50:53 PM
did it work?

trying to attach the fishing pic

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Tamikosmom on September 07, 2008, 12:51:13 PM
Ockham's Razor

You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more data, but only because it is no longer the simplest idea" or "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity.


1.  On the afternoon of June 16th Caylee loses her life and ... her body is placed in the trunk of Casey's vehicle.
 
2.  On June 17th Casey Casey spends the day contemplating what to do with her daughter's remains.  She drives to a secluded area near the airport to look it over.  She only spends ten minutes in the area.

3.  On June 18th Casey backs her vehicle up to her parents' home ... borrows a shovel from a neighbour and buries Caylee in her parent's back yard ... the spot where the dog/s hit on.

4.  On June 24th Casey returns to her parents home ... confesses everything to her father and ... George Anthony retrieves Caylee's remains and ... moves his grandaughter to another location.

++++++++


THE 911 CALLS
 
When I consider the desperate words of Cindy in the 911 calls of July 15th ... I contend that Cindy did not have a clue in regards to the happenings encompassing the death and disappearance of her grandaughter.  I suspect that George and Casey had not anticipated Cindy calling 911.  However ... Cindy was soon filled in and ... that is why the flip flop in regards to her words to the 911 operator.  She now realized that she would never see her grandaughter again but ... her husband and daugher's freedom was at risk.
__________

Transcript of First 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony 
 
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=E2DC1BEF177D42143792F23CA378CB38?contentId=7065515&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


Transcript of Second 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=064A93ABE9E107F59723BC347D2D9301?contentId=7059935&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


Transcript of Third 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 12:51:38 PM
More on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1755


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
::MonkeyCool::  I was just looking back in the earliest threads on this case and came to realize how freaking smart and intuitive we monkeys really are!! ::MonkeyDance::  It also dawned on me that after all this time and bullcrap we don't even know what date she went missing or for sure was last seen.  Those people make me sick!!!

This morning, I was thinking about how we could pin down the time Caylee went missing.  It seems the sighting of Zenaida at Sawgrass Apts could be the clue.  Why would you need Zenaida's information before Caylee goes missing; or, why would you need a cover story which included her?

6/17 may be the clue.  By that date, Casey is preparing her story.  By that date, Caylee must be already lost.  Otherwise, you wouldn't need a Zenaida, or even remember anything about her. 

I believe Casey was looking for a cover.  If Caylee was missing after 6/17, a case can be made for premeditation.

The only connection we've found between Zenaida/Sawgrass/Casey (so far) is the one on 6/17.  At that time, Casey either knew Caylee was dead, or was going to be dead.

Morning Slogger!  I agree.
The last verification of Caylee alive was at the Nursing home on the 15th
June. per photo and nursing home sign-in. Cindy said they went to Caylee's Gt.Grandmother's for dinner afterwards. 
Geo. "claims" he saw Caylee with Casey @ 12:50 p.m. on the 16th as they were leaving Anthony residence. 
I think Caylee's last day was the 15th June or early hours of 16th June.
 

Yes, I think Caylee's last day was "June 15th or early hours of June 16, too.

imo, the family had a HUGE argument.  Casey grabbed Caylee and left the house.  Clint thinks he saw Casey, but not Caylee that Sunday night when he returned.  Quite possibly, Caylee was in that babysittin' car trunk, and died there that night.

Cindy said that she put tucked Caylee into to bed on the 15th , it was in her testomony in bond hearing

Cindy also originally said that happened on the night of June 8th.  Cindy wouldn't know the day/date if you plastered a calendar to her forehead.
But isn't it strange all 3 of them(Casey,Cindy&George)stuck to that 6/9 date till they were proven wrong by the father's day nursing home video?Cindy did take all the blame for having the wrong date....she implied the reason they all got the date(Caylee was last seen alive)was because of her....in the Greta interview.
Strange indeed! -



Is it possible that when Cindy went to the nursing home on June 15th, she just signed Caylee's name too to use for future reference.  Did anyone from the nursing home actually see Caylee come in with Cindy?


There are pictures of Caylee in Cindys dad lap from the visit and employees said the saw Caylee there with Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 12:52:57 PM
Posted on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1749
Thanks Klaas
This same poter just posted that they are allowing the searchers to search behind the school....the school that was already mentioned a while back?The one Kiomarie or whoever was talking about?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ldstlou on September 07, 2008, 12:53:06 PM
oops...sorry Klaas..lol...can you fix it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ldstlou on September 07, 2008, 12:55:54 PM
did it work?

trying to attach the fishing pic


Sorry,,can someone fix it?

My Monkey's first fish and my first time uploading something!!!


::MonkeyDance::  ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 12:58:02 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.

Casey didn't waste any time on that day (6/18). The last call was 1:11pm and it was made to the house. According to the neighbor's statement, she was in the garage and borrowing a shovel by 1:30 pm.

No, no time wasted.  She got to it as soon as she established the coast was clear.  This is a very cold, calculated woman.

Agreed! Back to 6/18. Zenaida Gonzalas signed the guestcard on 6/17 at Sawgrass apts. I think that Caylee died on 6/16, and Casey was already scheming to cover it up. She had already copied the license plate number from Sawgrass's parking lot. I believe she saw ZG and thought she looked like the profile she was trying to fit. So, the next question is what she did with the borrowed shovel during the 45 minutes to 1 hour on the 18th.

1. Broke into the shed to get her family's shovel

2. Buried Caylee with the borrowed shovel

I tend to go with #1. The only reason I lean that way is that there was a report filed of the shed being broken into. The report was made on 6/24. I don't think she had time to bury Caylee before she returned the shovel to the neighbor.

Greta asked Cindy about a shovel in the shed, didn't she? I'd like to see that segment again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 12:58:08 PM
Posted on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1749
Thanks Klaas
This same poter just posted that they are allowing the searchers to search behind the school....the school that was already mentioned a while back?The one Kiomarie or whoever was talking about?

Karma - I'm not sure the location of the school.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: BTgirl on September 07, 2008, 12:58:29 PM
did it work?

trying to attach the fishing pic


Sorry,,can someone fix it?

My Monkey's first fish and my first time uploading something!!!


::MonkeyDance::  ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

I LOVE that face! He is soooooooo danged cute!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: OriginalKat on September 07, 2008, 12:59:37 PM
From Topix

     The two guys on the ladder at the Anthony's house, any guesses on what they are doing?
    Maybe putting a spotlight up to shine back on the camera?
    Other guesses???

Probably a security camera. They called LE out once today saying someone had thrown something at the house, but were unable to identify who.


I would say they are possibly thinking if they use spot lights directed towards camera at night it will mess up seeing what is going on. I would imagine they are under surveillance from LE 24 hrs anyway so nothing will get by.

The Anthony's are just keeping everything going with their antics. For people who said Caylee was in danger they sure have let the money talk putting the story on 20/20 and other places if the book and movie deal are real.

The constitution gives the protesters the right...1. Freedom of Speech....as long as they don't get on their property and it is peaceful. The family is the one causing problems. If I lived in the neighborhood I would not be happy myself but mostly at the Anthony's. They need to stay in their house but I have a feeling with that family it is tense in their.

I think the family is coming unglued because hiring a high profile criminal defense attorney says it all. They know they all are under the magnifying glass. He might have been a cop, Casey bedded cops and but there are plenty of slip ups. They are knotting their own noose. LE is watching and waiting.

Caylee is in my prayers everyday and I wish the remains would be found but I believe something was done to make sure it isn't easy. There was a man in Jacksonville, FL years and years ago who had a missing wife and he was convicted of her murder but there was no body because he had fed her body to the sharks. This was about 15-20 years ago at least and I haven't found the article in the archives yet am still looking so I can refresh myself on how he was convicted. I believe ..but don't quote me on it...he had a friend who helped him load a heavy ice chest onto his boat. Maybe he finally confessed..I just don't remember.

Anthony's need to stop profiting off that precious granddaughter because that is disgusting. How can they spend that money unless it would be to hire detectives to find her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 12:59:57 PM
Posted on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1749
Thanks Klaas
This same poter just posted that they are allowing the searchers to search behind the school....the school that was already mentioned a while back?The one Kiomarie or whoever was talking about?

Karma, speaking of Kiomarie . . . didn't she have a car similar to the description of Zenaida's?  If so, could that be a reason to spot Zenaida . . . because she had a car which Casey recognized.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: SS on September 07, 2008, 01:00:07 PM
More on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1755



Is this the location in the woods where Casey and her friends hung out in Junior High School?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:01:01 PM
did it work?

trying to attach the fishing pic


Sorry,,can someone fix it?

My Monkey's first fish and my first time uploading something!!!


::MonkeyDance::  ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

I fixed it! 
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 01:01:26 PM
Ockham's Razor

You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more data, but only because it is no longer the simplest idea" or "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity.


1.  On the afternoon of June 16th Caylee loses her life and ... her body is placed in the trunk of Casey's vehicle.
 
2.  On June 17th Casey Casey spends the day contemplating what to do with her daughter's remains.  She drives to a secluded area near the airport to look it over.  She only spends ten minutes in the area.

3.  On June 18th Casey backs her vehicle up to her parents' home ... borrows a shovel from a neighbour and buries Caylee in her parent's back yard ... the spot where the dog/s hit on.

4.  On June 24th Casey returns to her parents home ... confesses everything to her father and ... George Anthony retrieves Caylee's remains and ... moves his grandaughter to another location.

++++++++


THE 911 CALLS
 
When I consider the desperate words of Cindy in the 911 calls of July 15th ... I contend that Cindy did not have a clue in regards to the happenings encompassing the death and disappearance of her grandaughter.  I suspect that George and Casey had not anticipated Cindy calling 911.  However ... Cindy was soon filled in and ... that is why the flip flop in regards to her words to the 911 operator.  She now realized that she would never see her grandaughter again but ... her husband and daugher's freedom was at risk.
__________

Transcript of First 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony 
 
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Transcript of Second 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony

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Transcript of Third 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony

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Hi Janet! Add to the 17th that Zenaida signs the guestcard at Sawgrass. If Casey were there trying to beef up the story she was concocting, it fits right in with what your point is. I agree, Cindy did not have a clue when she made that 9-1-1 call. I believe that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blue Moon on September 07, 2008, 01:01:47 PM
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I don't want to bring someone into this that is totally innocent but I find that Kio person a little strange. She gives clues to police about old school hangout, If I remember correctly she knows the person who loaned the shovel, she (maybe) drives the type of vehicle Caylee was last seen driving off in, and lastly she wanted to adopt Caylee.  Could Casey have called her for help that day she borrowed the shovel?  Just MO only.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:02:33 PM
From Topix

     The two guys on the ladder at the Anthony's house, any guesses on what they are doing?
    Maybe putting a spotlight up to shine back on the camera?
    Other guesses???

Probably a security camera. They called LE out once today saying someone had thrown something at the house, but were unable to identify who.


I would say they are possibly thinking if they use spot lights directed towards camera at night it will mess up seeing what is going on. I would imagine they are under surveillance from LE 24 hrs anyway so nothing will get by.

The Anthony's are just keeping everything going with their antics. For people who said Caylee was in danger they sure have let the money talk putting the story on 20/20 and other places if the book and movie deal are real.

The constitution gives the protesters the right...1. Freedom of Speech....as long as they don't get on their property and it is peaceful. The family is the one causing problems. If I lived in the neighborhood I would not be happy myself but mostly at the Anthony's. They need to stay in their house but I have a feeling with that family it is tense in their.

I think the family is coming unglued because hiring a high profile criminal defense attorney says it all. They know they all are under the magnifying glass. He might have been a cop, Casey bedded cops and but there are plenty of slip ups. They are knotting their own noose. LE is watching and waiting.

Caylee is in my prayers everyday and I wish the remains would be found but I believe something was done to make sure it isn't easy. There was a man in Jacksonville, FL years and years ago who had a missing wife and he was convicted of her murder but there was no body because he had fed her body to the sharks. This was about 15-20 years ago at least and I haven't found the article in the archives yet am still looking so I can refresh myself on how he was convicted. I believe ..but don't quote me on it...he had a friend who helped him load a heavy ice chest onto his boat. Maybe he finally confessed..I just don't remember.

Anthony's need to stop profiting off that precious granddaughter because that is disgusting. How can they spend that money unless it would be to hire detectives to find her?

Welcome OriginalKat!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 01:02:38 PM
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Thanks Klaas
This same poter just posted that they are allowing the searchers to search behind the school....the school that was already mentioned a while back?The one Kiomarie or whoever was talking about?

Karma - I'm not sure the location of the school.


It's listed on that Google map someone made. I didn't keep the link.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 01:04:08 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.

Casey didn't waste any time on that day (6/18). The last call was 1:11pm and it was made to the house. According to the neighbor's statement, she was in the garage and borrowing a shovel by 1:30 pm.

No, no time wasted.  She got to it as soon as she established the coast was clear.  This is a very cold, calculated woman.

Agreed! Back to 6/18. Zenaida Gonzalas signed the guestcard on 6/17 at Sawgrass apts. I think that Caylee died on 6/16, and Casey was already scheming to cover it up. She had already copied the license plate number from Sawgrass's parking lot. I believe she saw ZG and thought she looked like the profile she was trying to fit. So, the next question is what she did with the borrowed shovel during the 45 minutes to 1 hour on the 18th.

1. Broke into the shed to get her family's shovel

2. Buried Caylee with the borrowed shovel

I tend to go with #1. The only reason I lean that way is that there was a report filed of the shed being broken into. The report was made on 6/24. I don't think she had time to bury Caylee before she returned the shovel to the neighbor.

Greta asked Cindy about a shovel in the shed, didn't she? I'd like to see that segment again.


If it's accurate that Casey was retrieving Caylee on the 18th (because of odor possibilities) maybe a second burial spot was the school, or the woods near the house.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:05:27 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:05:33 PM
September 07, 2008
Caylee Anthony : Ground Zero : Cyber Search
I am still on the scene in Orlando, Florida, helping look for Casey Anthony's missing daughter, three-year-old Caylee Anthony.

I have been receiving hundreds of emails from readers who are unable to get involved in the search, but who would like me to look at specific areas (Jay Blanchard Park) and to photograph specific places (location of the dumpster).

Given the fact that so many people are out looking again today, I have decided to devote the entire day to YOU.

I am going to start with Jay Blanchard Park, but from there I will go to wherever you send me. If you have a specific area where you want me to go, leave a comment at the bottom of this blog entery, along with the physical address for that location. While I have many of the addresses on my computer it will take me time to look them up. If you send a note saying "check such and such dumpster" that will not help me, as I am not from this area and have to rely on GPS. That being said, please take a moment to look up the address and include it in your post. Also, I obviously cannot explore large wooded areas by myself, so please keep your suggestions to areas which are feasible for me to look at or photograph.

I need the physical address for whichever location you send me to so that I can spend my time traveling there, rather than going through the time consuming task of looking it up myself.

Please note that comments here are moderated, so don't become concerned if yours does not go up the instant you post it. Whenever I leave a specific location, I will check back here to see where you want me to go next.

Texas EquuSearch has my cell phone number and they have promised to keep me informed of any breaks in the case.

Now is your chance to get involved!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: ldstlou on September 07, 2008, 01:07:08 PM
did it work?

trying to attach the fishing pic


Sorry,,can someone fix it?

My Monkey's first fish and my first time uploading something!!!


::MonkeyDance::  ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

I fixed it! 
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Thanks!

First fish...BIG moment!!! lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 01:07:10 PM
Posted on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1749
Thanks Klaas
This same poter just posted that they are allowing the searchers to search behind the school....the school that was already mentioned a while back?The one Kiomarie or whoever was talking about?

Karma - I'm not sure the location of the school.


It's listed on that Google map someone made. I didn't keep the link.

Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/5b259u


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 07, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
did it work?

trying to attach the fishing pic


Sorry,,can someone fix it?

My Monkey's first fish and my first time uploading something!!!


::MonkeyDance::  ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

I fixed it! 
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To cute


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 01:08:43 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I'm thinking that George didn't know until after the 24th, when he reported gas cans missing, but he could have know earlier and used the gas can information to establish the 24th instead of the 16th.

I think Casey came back on the 18th (after using the Anthonys' shovel)  expecting to use the shovel, but it was locked up.  When Casey couldn't get the shovel to dig up Caylee, she borrowed the neighbor's shovel.

If Casey had been able to get the gas cans on the 18th, she would have used the Anthonys' shovel.  I believe she backed the car up to the house to get Caylee, not to deliver Caylee.
Aahh......Now that makes perfect sense to me!
LE did take the neighbors shovel as evidence,I am praying they found evidence on it.
OK,George is not positive about the date of the shed breakin/gascans being stolen.Dang,I just noticed the days between when she borrowed the shovel(6/18)and when George reported shed breakin.I assumed she used the borrowed shovel to break into the shed?Hmmmm....thinking.....

It could be that the body was in the trunk on the 18th.  Casey makes a number of calls that day:

JUNE 18-

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Shortly after these calls, the neighbor sees Casey back into the garage (which he says she never does), then comes over to borrow a shovel.

She moves the body to the backyard (explaining the decomp the dogs detected).  She starts to dig a hole (the depression/disturbed area next to the pool), but it's hard work and she doesn't have much time.  She abandons the effort, returns the body to the trunk, and returns the shovel.

She returns to the house on June 22nd, bringing the kitchen knife found in the car, to break into the shed and steal the gas cans.  I also believe she stole a shovel (more on that later).  She disposes of the body somewhere on June 22nd.  Four days later, the smell in the car is unbearable, so she dumps it at the Amscot.

In early video of the garage, there is a shovel leaning against the wall.  As anal as those people are, the shovel would have been in the shed along with the rest of the tools.  Did George remove the shovel from the trunk when he cleaned out the car?

I'm thinking more like she buried Caylee in the backyard on 6/16-6/17 then went back on 6/18...backed car into garage,borrowed shovel,dug Caylee(I'm so sorry sweet Angel)up,returned shovel...like Slogger posted.
I'm kinda thinking the shed wasn't broken into....wait,there's a police report so I think George himself broke into the shed and took the gascans....trying to futhur Casey's alibi somehow.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 01:08:52 PM
Posted on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1749
Thanks Klaas
This same poter just posted that they are allowing the searchers to search behind the school....the school that was already mentioned a while back?The one Kiomarie or whoever was talking about?

Karma - I'm not sure the location of the school.


It's listed on that Google map someone made. I didn't keep the link.

Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/5b259u

7th entry down


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MisterMichaelJ on September 07, 2008, 01:09:13 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 01:11:48 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well

Hi MM! I think that the visit on the 15th would be easy to verify through the Nursing Home. I love your avatar, btw!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 01:12:37 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well


Clint House said (on Greta) that he saw Caylee on June 13th.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MisterMichaelJ on September 07, 2008, 01:15:20 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well

Hi MM! I think that the visit on the 15th would be easy to verify through the Nursing Home. I love your avatar, btw!  ::MonkeyWink::

CraxyBaby, I love your avitat, too!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:16:25 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well

Unless the date on the camera is wrong, and there's nothing to indicate it was, according to LE the date that photo of Caylee and great GP was taken was June 15, 2008.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 07, 2008, 01:19:11 PM
You know what I find interesting...

Tony picks her up with bags of groceries in her hands...


...but there really isn't a grocery store in that complex...

I guess you could technically get them at the Sam's club next door...

but she'd have to have a membership.


The groceries really put a damper on the ran out of gas story for me...

not that I would ever believe anything she'd say, anyway.

That's what I have been saying. She had money for groceries, she must have had money for gas. I think she dumped the car on "E" but I don't think it was run out of gas, bone dry. I can drive on "E" for quite awhile in my car. LOL!

George glanced at it in the tow yard, didn't try starting it, just dumped some gas in with his handy gas can.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 01:19:59 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY

Wait,are all of these calls from 6/16?Then no calls(that we know of)on 6/17.....then more calls on 6/18?

Yes, those calls are from the 6/16.  The next call was 6/17 at 11 a.m., but they did not release who that call was to, or any calls after that on 6/17.  The calls released from 6/18 are:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Thanks Switchy
She must have been making those calls from home on 6/16 then making calls TO the home on 6/18.....making sure no one was at home.So she could have been burying Caylee on 6/16,making calls to parents cell phones and work because she didn't want to get busted burying Caylee.On 6/18 she was making sure no one was home so she could go dig up Caylee's body,found sheds locked and borrowed shovel from neighbor.I don't think it was Casey who broke into the shed.....I think that was George helping with her alibi.

Because then he(and Cindy)could say Casey was always stealing gas from the shed.That way there was a reason for Casey to borrow the shovel from a neighbor....to break into the shed,get gas....a reason OTHER than she was digging up a body in the yard.

OMG....George and Cindy were not doing the tuff love on Casey,they were helping her with a alibi!Why start the tuff love thing now? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MisterMichaelJ on September 07, 2008, 01:20:05 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well

Unless the date on the camera is wrong, and there's nothing to indicate it was, according to LE the date that photo of Caylee and great GP was taken was June 15, 2008.

Yes, but, PEOPLE set the dates on video cams, AND, guests lists can easily be signed........that might be the whole cover-up, and why they initially said they haven't seen her since the 8th/9th!!!

And, "Clint" looks like a friggin TWINK!!  Believe none of what you hear, and only 1/2 of what you see!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: katntx on September 07, 2008, 01:21:03 PM
Does anyone have the picture saved that was taken at the nursing home of Caylee on great grandfathers lap?  Can you post it please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on September 07, 2008, 01:23:08 PM
HI MOnkey's,  :2waver:  I have been reading for weeks.  You guys are all so  great.  I love how you are all so kind to everyone and believe that this is the board for me.  I hate how on some of those other boards always have drama going on between posters.

I think it is great what you are all doing to help find this precious angel, you guys really have heart.    Just wanted to say hi all, I will probably be just reading mostly as I am shy, but I am right here all the way cheering you all on.

BTW, slow down a little, I am tired from all the running I have to do to catch up all the time ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh and can someone help me figure out how to keep my page if I have to leave.  I keep forgetting where I left off.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MSE on September 07, 2008, 01:23:19 PM
Welcome Lillybear, Precious1 and all the other newbies!  I'm new too and no one bites here, so jump on in.

There was a picture a while back with KC sleeping on a bed with a guy next to her and someone else passed out on the floor.  On the nightstand was a laptop, not sure whose it was.  They did say "her computer" showed the searches so it must have been hers they took, right?

I hope they dig up everything including that Hydrangea bush.  Just toss the whole yard.  Maybe if she is not there any longer, some article of hers maybe.

Does everyone have this cam for when they do start attacking it?  The aerial view one?  Right now, it is stuck on a propeller.  I think the cams take Sunday off.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck20mobilecam.html


Thank you, Riley.
As for the guy in the Bed, it's hard to say since there have been many. I do believe it's Tony, the ex boyfriend, not the fired cop.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MisterMichaelJ on September 07, 2008, 01:24:35 PM
Did ANYONE check the function of the so-called 'broken gas gauge' on the Hoebags car yet???????? I mean, come on folks............that human 'stain' for a Grandpop said the gas gauge was broken...gimme a break  I'll bet my 'church bells' that nobody bothered..........lame!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Lisa39 on September 07, 2008, 01:26:17 PM
HI MOnkey's,  :2waver:  I have been reading for weeks.  You guys are all so  great.  I love how you are all so kind to everyone and believe that this is the board for me.  I hate how on some of those other boards always have drama going on between posters.

I think it is great what you are all doing to help find this precious angel, you guys really have heart.    Just wanted to say hi all, I will probably be just reading mostly as I am shy, but I am right here all the way cheering you all on.

BTW, slow down a little, I am tired from all the running I have to do to catch up all the time ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh and can someone help me figure out how to keep my page if I have to leave.  I keep forgetting where I left off.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Welcome nomore great to have you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: 4th_kids on September 07, 2008, 01:27:15 PM
You know what I find interesting...

Tony picks her up with bags of groceries in her hands...


...but there really isn't a grocery store in that complex...

I guess you could technically get them at the Sam's club next door...

but she'd have to have a membership.


The groceries really put a damper on the ran out of gas story for me...

not that I would ever believe anything she'd say, anyway.

That's what I have been saying. She had money for groceries, she must have had money for gas. I think she dumped the car on "E" but I don't think it was run out of gas, bone dry. I can drive on "E" for quite awhile in my car. LOL!

George glanced at it in the tow yard, didn't try starting it, just dumped some gas in with his handy gas can.

She also states in her statement that the guage was broken and reading 1/2 a tank, so I wonder, how did George know it was on empty?

jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:28:21 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY

Wait,are all of these calls from 6/16?Then no calls(that we know of)on 6/17.....then more calls on 6/18?

Yes, those calls are from the 6/16.  The next call was 6/17 at 11 a.m., but they did not release who that call was to, or any calls after that on 6/17.  The calls released from 6/18 are:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Thanks Switchy
She must have been making those calls from home on 6/16 then making calls TO the home on 6/18.....making sure no one was at home.So she could have been burying Caylee on 6/16,making calls to parents cell phones and work because she didn't want to get busted burying Caylee.On 6/18 she was making sure no one was home so she could go dig up Caylee's body,found sheds locked and borrowed shovel from neighbor.I don't think it was Casey who broke into the shed.....I think that was George helping with her alibi.

Because then he(and Cindy)could say Casey was always stealing gas from the shed.That way there was a reason for Casey to borrow the shovel from a neighbor....to break into the shed,get gas....a reason OTHER than she was digging up a body in the yard.

OMG....George and Cindy were not doing the tuff love on Casey,they were helping her with a alibi!Why start the tuff love thing now? ::MonkeyNoNo::

Cindy told NG that she had the phone records and NG told her to release them.  Of course, she didn't.  If I thought my daughter was innocent, I would prove it to the whole world and keep trying to motivate people for looking for my live grandchild.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:28:49 PM
HI MOnkey's,  :2waver:  I have been reading for weeks.  You guys are all so  great.  I love how you are all so kind to everyone and believe that this is the board for me.  I hate how on some of those other boards always have drama going on between posters.

I think it is great what you are all doing to help find this precious angel, you guys really have heart.    Just wanted to say hi all, I will probably be just reading mostly as I am shy, but I am right here all the way cheering you all on.

BTW, slow down a little, I am tired from all the running I have to do to catch up all the time ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh and can someone help me figure out how to keep my page if I have to leave.  I keep forgetting where I left off.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Welcome Nomore:

I just keep logged into the site and the thread and minimize the window.  Also, I keep my computer on 24/7  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: 4th_kids on September 07, 2008, 01:29:03 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well

Unless the date on the camera is wrong, and there's nothing to indicate it was, according to LE the date that photo of Caylee and great GP was taken was June 15, 2008.

Yes, but, PEOPLE set the dates on video cams, AND, guests lists can easily be signed........that might be the whole cover-up, and why they initially said they haven't seen her since the 8th/9th!!!

And, "Clint" looks like a friggin TWINK!!  Believe none of what you hear, and only 1/2 of what you see!!

The people at the nursing home had them logged in on the 15th and remeber Caylee being there.
jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 01:30:43 PM
what?  LP on Geraldo says that Tim will look under slabs in back yard tomorrow or Monday??? Did I hear that right?  Really?







I think they need to empty the pool and look under there too.  BTW, I have been running for weeks to catch up with you guys, slow downnnnnn! ::MonkeyLaugh::

Welcome nekkid!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mrsrocko19 on September 07, 2008, 01:30:46 PM
Did anyone else catch this in the documents????



Cindy anthony's other lie.. She stated that she picked up or found her car today. She said it stated there was the smell in it( Stating the car was picked up before finding casey right?) On the 400 pages of document the towing company stated that when he walked george into the yard for the car george was telling him his grandaughter was missing for 31 days?? Now how would george know that if they found the car first??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 01:31:04 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I think Casey made the first flurry of phone calls from the house.  Notice all the calls were to George and Cindy at work or on their cells.  No calls to the house:

3:03p Call to George's Cell

4:10p Call to Cindy at work

4:11p Call to Cindy's Cell

4:13p Call to Cindy's cell

4:14p Call to Cindy at work

4:19p Call to Tony

4:21p Call to Jesse

4:24p Call to Cindy's cell


In the later flurry of calls, she calls the house twice, implying she is no longer there:

6:32p Call to Cindy at home

6:33p Checks Voicemail

7:06p Call to Cindy at home

7:20p Call to Amy
NO MORE CELL ACTIVITY
UNTIL NEXT DAY

Wait,are all of these calls from 6/16?Then no calls(that we know of)on 6/17.....then more calls on 6/18?

Yes, those calls are from the 6/16.  The next call was 6/17 at 11 a.m., but they did not release who that call was to, or any calls after that on 6/17.  The calls released from 6/18 are:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Thanks Switchy
She must have been making those calls from home on 6/16 then making calls TO the home on 6/18.....making sure no one was at home.So she could have been burying Caylee on 6/16,making calls to parents cell phones and work because she didn't want to get busted burying Caylee.On 6/18 she was making sure no one was home so she could go dig up Caylee's body,found sheds locked and borrowed shovel from neighbor.I don't think it was Casey who broke into the shed.....I think that was George helping with her alibi.

Because then he(and Cindy)could say Casey was always stealing gas from the shed.That way there was a reason for Casey to borrow the shovel from a neighbor....to break into the shed,get gas....a reason OTHER than she was digging up a body in the yard.

OMG....George and Cindy were not doing the tuff love on Casey,they were helping her with a alibi!Why start the tuff love thing now? ::MonkeyNoNo::


I think George was making alibis (seeing both on morning of 6/16 and the gas can event), but I think Cindy was still working on the tough love until shortly after the 3rd 911 call.

Another thing:  If Casey had been burying Caylee in the yard on the 18th and couldn't get a shovel from the shed, I think she would have changed her plans.  I feel she was locked into getting Caylee out of there before someone found out.

You wouldn't bring attention to yourself, while burying a body, by borrowing a shovel from a neighbor so it would be known exactly when you borrowed it.  No, I think she was digging up Caylee and had to do it at that time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 01:31:11 PM
WELCOME new monkeys! Glad you are here! There are avatars available for you to choose from at the link in my signature line. Feel free to help yourself!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 07, 2008, 01:31:28 PM
did it work?

trying to attach the fishing pic


Sorry,,can someone fix it?

My Monkey's first fish and my first time uploading something!!!


::MonkeyDance::  ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

I fixed it! 
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/1fishing.jpg)


Thanks!

First fish...BIG moment!!! lol

What a cutie!!!! And the little monkey isn't so bad either.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:32:10 PM
More from the MyFoxOrlando blog:

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1758


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: OriginalKat on September 07, 2008, 01:32:19 PM
Does anybody agree that it seems odd that a gun being in the care & control of a Grandfather who has undertaken bond for a daughter with a missing child/probable murder is just taken by LE, leaving the family together.

They think this guy couldn't go get another gun, kill the daughter, wife & then do himself? 

Think this is a recipe for further tragedy?

I would imagine that was not the only gun GA has. It just might be the only on on the premises but I don't understand why that was not a breach either. I guess there is alot we don't understand at this point so I am sure it will make sense later.
I think the other guns (possibly some not registered) can be found at Lee's place since he was not on the bond.

Actually I am sure if GA or anyone else wanted to do the family in they wouldn't need a gun. I young man the other day was stabbed with a ball point pen and died. Anything ican be a weapon.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 01:34:19 PM
You know what I find interesting...

Tony picks her up with bags of groceries in her hands...


...but there really isn't a grocery store in that complex...

I guess you could technically get them at the Sam's club next door...

but she'd have to have a membership.


The groceries really put a damper on the ran out of gas story for me...

not that I would ever believe anything she'd say, anyway.

Hi Carpo:

Sam's Club does not have bags.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: pink angel on September 07, 2008, 01:34:46 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well

Unless the date on the camera is wrong, and there's nothing to indicate it was, according to LE the date that photo of Caylee and great GP was taken was June 15, 2008.

Yes, but, PEOPLE set the dates on video cams, AND, guests lists can easily be signed........that might be the whole cover-up, and why they initially said they haven't seen her since the 8th/9th!!!

And, "Clint" looks like a friggin TWINK!!  Believe none of what you hear, and only 1/2 of what you see!!

She was seen on June 9/morning of the 10th by Ricardo. She was also seen on the 12-14 by one of Casey's girlfriend's as they all took a walk in the park.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 01:35:02 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.
I agree
Didn't the neighbor who loaned her the shovel say she returned it about 2:30,she had it for about 1 hour.That coincides perfectly with her last call home before she borrowed the shovel.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2008, 01:36:32 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.
I agree
Didn't the neighbor who loaned her the shovel say she returned it about 2:30,she had it for about 1 hour.That coincides perfectly with her last call home before she borrowed the shovel.

Yes, Karma, that's exactly right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 01:38:20 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.

Casey didn't waste any time on that day (6/18). The last call was 1:11pm and it was made to the house. According to the neighbor's statement, she was in the garage and borrowing a shovel by 1:30 pm.
Yup,sorry CBB,I didn't read ahead before I posted that exact thing.
Casey was probably around the corner from her house making those calls.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 07, 2008, 01:40:29 PM
Cindy told Greta that they had kids use their pool without their permission.  Kids don't care if there is ladder there or not.  It's called pool hopping and not too many kids go behind a wooden fence with barking dogs to wake up the owners. She mumbled here way throught that one.
Red flag of a lie.

Can you tell I am a reformed pool hopper?

I some how doubt that Cindy allowed neighborhood kids in her precious yard.  The man that borrowed Casey the shovel had to describe to his son what Casey looked like in case she came to the door while he was upstairs.  The Anthonys' are not neighborly

The fence must be locked, if not, she has just admitted to yet another crime.  Book 'er Danno!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: 4th_kids on September 07, 2008, 01:40:54 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.

Casey didn't waste any time on that day (6/18). The last call was 1:11pm and it was made to the house. According to the neighbor's statement, she was in the garage and borrowing a shovel by 1:30 pm.

No, no time wasted.  She got to it as soon as she established the coast was clear.  This is a very cold, calculated woman.

Agreed! Back to 6/18. Zenaida Gonzalas signed the guestcard on 6/17 at Sawgrass apts. I think that Caylee died on 6/16, and Casey was already scheming to cover it up. She had already copied the license plate number from Sawgrass's parking lot. I believe she saw ZG and thought she looked like the profile she was trying to fit. So, the next question is what she did with the borrowed shovel during the 45 minutes to 1 hour on the 18th.

1. Broke into the shed to get her family's shovel

2. Buried Caylee with the borrowed shovel

I tend to go with #1. The only reason I lean that way is that there was a report filed of the shed being broken into. The report was made on 6/24. I don't think she had time to bury Caylee before she returned the shovel to the neighbor.

Greta asked Cindy about a shovel in the shed, didn't she? I'd like to see that segment again.

Here's the transcript.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html?sPage=fnc/ontherecord/caylee

VAN SUSTEREN: Does Casey say she borrowed a shovel from a neighbor?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: And what did she say her purpose of borrowing a shovel...
CINDY ANTHONY: To look (ph) for the bamboo.
VAN SUSTEREN: So to remove the bamboo, which grows very...
CINDY ANTHONY: Rapidly.
VAN SUSTEREN: ... Aggressively.
CINDY ANTHONY: Right. It does. And if we don't keep track of it -- if I don't get rid of that today, I'll have other shoots coming into the rest of the yard.
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you not have a shovel that she could have used?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, we do have a shovel she could have used. But if she was here and we weren't home -- George and I made a decision when we started locking the sheds this year because last year, Caylee wasn't able to do some of the things she can do this year. So we made a conscious effort to lock the sheds. We have three sheds.
VAN SUSTEREN: Are these the sheds were there was some report something was stolen from the sheds or broken into?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, and we actually need to replace a lot of stuff out here. But yes, this is one of the sheds that we would normally keep locked and normally keep the shovels in, which we do keep the shovels in. This is his toolshed. The lawn mower, you know, weed-whacker, that type of thing, shovels, axes, hoes, anything you do gardening work is locked up in here, like that. I mean, it's a normal shed.
VAN SUSTEREN: Was something reported stolen from this, though?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, gas cans.
VAN SUSTEREN: When was that report made that gas cans were stolen?
CINDY ANTHONY: You'd have to ask George.
VAN SUSTEREN: Was that, though, before Caylee was -- had been reported missing or after, that the gas cans...
CINDY ANTHONY: That was before.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Absolutely.
VAN SUSTEREN: And gas cans were -- how many gas cans?
GEORGE ANTHONY: Two, the 2-and-a-half-gallon and one about a gallon- and-a-quarter, something like that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you made the report on June 24, though. That's when you noticed it. Do you remember when you last were in there, so you have some sort of window of when that could have happened?
GEORGE ANTHONY: It could have been Sunday. I believe I was in there Sunday. I don't believe I was in there the day before that, like, on the 23rd. I'm almost positive it's a Sunday.
VAN SUSTEREN: So the Sunday the 23rd, you might have been in there?
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, Sunday would have been the 22nd.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So as best you can tell, it happened between the 22nd and the 24th. someone broke in there.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Uh-huh.
That's when I saw my daughter. I was getting ready to go to work, and the garage door goes open and my daughter comes in. This is about 2:25, 2:30 in the afternoon on the 24th. As she comes in the house, and I said, Hey, how're you doing? And she says, Fine, Dad. I says, Well, what's going on? And she says, Oh, I'm just stopping home for about 10 minutes, get some clothes. I go to go back to work. Where's Caylee? She's with Zanny. And I said, OK, when are you guys coming home? She says, Oh, we'll be back home maybe late tonight or the next day.
I said, OK. Have you been talking to Mom? Oh, yes, I talk to Mom every day. I said, I know, but did you talk to Mom today? She sort of hesitated for a moment and she says, Yes. And she says, Oh, by the way, it's a shame what happened in the shed. And I said...
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, because (INAUDIBLE)
GEORGE ANTHONY: And I said, Really? She says, yes. I said, Interesting. And I just said, Hey, by the way, I said, I'm getting ready to rotate your mom's tires on her car. There's a little metal wedge that fits underneath your tires so your car doesn't rock back and forth. And I said, Well, I'd like to have it, so in case you're not here over the weekend, I'd like to be able to do it.
She was hesitant about letting me get in the car. And I said, Well, listen, I got an extra key. I'll just go get it. Well, she was adamant about -- about that.
VAN SUSTEREN: What, not letting you into the car?
GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, didn't want me to get into the car to get the stuff out. Dad, I'll get it for you. Dad, I'll get it out. I said, It's no problem. I know where it's at. I'll get it, get it out and be done with it.
So as we're walking out through the garage, she's still telling me, Dad, I'll get it. Give me a minute, I'll get it. I said, Casey, I'm capable of reaching inside your car, and I got it. So -- and she opened up the trunk of the car...
CINDY ANTHONY: The gas cans were there.
GEORGE ANTHONY: (INAUDIBLE) The gas cans there. She's the one that took the gas cans.

jmo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 01:41:26 PM
did it work?

trying to attach the fishing pic

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/1fishing.jpg)
Awwww,he looks so proud Lisa!
What a cutie pie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: mytime on September 07, 2008, 01:41:44 PM
Holy Monkey Poop!

The Anthony's are still going to have their weekly vigil tonight.   That is going to crazy.  I think I am going to keep Casey company while she is inside trying to make new friends on myspace.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #1
Post by: can on September 07, 2008, 01:42:43 PM
TES is searching an area connected to the pings from the phone. Are they searching the pings from the 16th or the 18th?

I believe that Caylee had not been placed wherever she is now on the 16th. I believe that Casey's trip to the house when she backed in and borrowed the shovel (6/18) marks an effort to dispose of a body. I'm scared that Tim's efforts may prove futile where he's searching, despite searching where LE has requested.

Any thoughts?
[/quote
If Caylee was placed at residence temporarily on 16th Casey would need to scout out another place - so although the second placement may not have happened on the 16th any of the spots she might have been scouting could be relevant imo as she may have returned to them when she was ready.




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2008, 01:43:41 PM
I'm shocked  ::MonkeyShocked:: If you look real close you can see through the front window what's going on in the Anthony home this morning  ::MonkeyShocked::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/camsunday.jpg)






 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on September 07, 2008, 01:44:27 PM
HI MOnkey's,  :2waver:  I have been reading for weeks.  You guys are all so  great.  I love how you are all so kind to everyone and believe that this is the board for me.  I hate how on some of those other boards always have drama going on between posters.

I think it is great what you are all doing to help find this precious angel, you guys really have heart.    Just wanted to say hi all, I will probably be just reading mostly as I am shy, but I am right here all the way cheering you all on.

BTW, slow down a little, I am tired from all the running I have to do to catch up all the time ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh and can someone help me figure out how to keep my page if I have to leave.  I keep forgetting where I left off.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Welcome nomore great to have you.


THanks great to be hear


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Switchy on September 07, 2008, 01:45:14 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I'm thinking that George didn't know until after the 24th, when he reported gas cans missing, but he could have know earlier and used the gas can information to establish the 24th instead of the 16th.

I think Casey came back on the 18th (after using the Anthonys' shovel)  expecting to use the shovel, but it was locked up.  When Casey couldn't get the shovel to dig up Caylee, she borrowed the neighbor's shovel.

If Casey had been able to get the gas cans on the 18th, she would have used the Anthonys' shovel.  I believe she backed the car up to the house to get Caylee, not to deliver Caylee.
Aahh......Now that makes perfect sense to me!
LE did take the neighbors shovel as evidence,I am praying they found evidence on it.
OK,George is not positive about the date of the shed breakin/gascans being stolen.Dang,I just noticed the days between when she borrowed the shovel(6/18)and when George reported shed breakin.I assumed she used the borrowed shovel to break into the shed?Hmmmm....thinking.....

It could be that the body was in the trunk on the 18th.  Casey makes a number of calls that day:

JUNE 18-

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Shortly after these calls, the neighbor sees Casey back into the garage (which he says she never does), then comes over to borrow a shovel.

She moves the body to the backyard (explaining the decomp the dogs detected).  She starts to dig a hole (the depression/disturbed area next to the pool), but it's hard work and she doesn't have much time.  She abandons the effort, returns the body to the trunk, and returns the shovel.

She returns to the house on June 22nd, bringing the kitchen knife found in the car, to break into the shed and steal the gas cans.  I also believe she stole a shovel (more on that later).  She disposes of the body somewhere on June 22nd.  Four days later, the smell in the car is unbearable, so she dumps it at the Amscot.

In early video of the garage, there is a shovel leaning against the wall.  As anal as those people are, the shovel would have been in the shed along with the rest of the tools.  Did George remove the shovel from the trunk when he cleaned out the car?

I'm thinking more like she buried Caylee in the backyard on 6/16-6/17 then went back on 6/18...backed car into garage,borrowed shovel,dug Caylee(I'm so sorry sweet Angel)up,returned shovel...like Slogger posted.
I'm kinda thinking the shed wasn't broken into....wait,there's a police report so I think George himself broke into the shed and took the gascans....trying to futhur Casey's alibi somehow.

I thought of that, too.  But the Anthony's dog(s) bother me.  I don't believe the dog(s) would have left a buried corpse alone - I think it would have driven them nuts.  The Anthony dog(s) are the main reason I suspect a dead body was not back there long, and might be the reason Casey changed her mind about burying Caylee there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 01:46:20 PM
Ockham's Razor

You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more data, but only because it is no longer the simplest idea" or "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity.


1.  On the afternoon of June 16th Caylee loses her life and ... her body is placed in the trunk of Casey's vehicle.
 
2.  On June 17th Casey Casey spends the day contemplating what to do with her daughter's remains.  She drives to a secluded area near the airport to look it over.  She only spends ten minutes in the area.

3.  On June 18th Casey backs her vehicle up to her parents' home ... borrows a shovel from a neighbour and buries Caylee in her parent's back yard ... the spot where the dog/s hit on.

4.  On June 24th Casey returns to her parents home ... confesses everything to her father and ... George Anthony retrieves Caylee's remains and ... moves his grandaughter to another location.

++++++++


THE 911 CALLS
 
When I consider the desperate words of Cindy in the 911 calls of July 15th ... I contend that Cindy did not have a clue in regards to the happenings encompassing the death and disappearance of her grandaughter.  I suspect that George and Casey had not anticipated Cindy calling 911.  However ... Cindy was soon filled in and ... that is why the flip flop in regards to her words to the 911 operator.  She now realized that she would never see her grandaughter again but ... her husband and daugher's freedom was at risk.
__________

Transcript of First 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony 
 
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=E2DC1BEF177D42143792F23CA378CB38?contentId=7065515&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


Transcript of Second 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=064A93ABE9E107F59723BC347D2D9301?contentId=7059935&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


Transcript of Third 911 Call Made by Cindy Anthony

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=E932F0E8186FBEFB8E2BD9A2972D05FD?contentId=7059944&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


I agree with the first part Janet,it could have happened that way but I think Cindy already knew before the first 911 call.She went with George to pick up the car,they returned home to get money then returned to the tow yard,George drove Casey's car home and both Cindy and George were in that car right away.Cindy even took evidence out of the car so she knew what that car smelled like before the 1st 911 call.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.

Casey didn't waste any time on that day (6/18). The last call was 1:11pm and it was made to the house. According to the neighbor's statement, she was in the garage and borrowing a shovel by 1:30 pm.
Yup,sorry CBB,I didn't read ahead before I posted that exact thing.
Casey was probably around the corner from her house making those calls.

Casey hadn't returned the shovel by 2:30.  I think the neighbor took a shower, came out and it was 10 minutes later.  Shovel borrowed for 45 min. to an hour.  So, the shovel came back around 2:40, making it borrowed at about 1:40 at the earliest; 1:55 at the latest.

Depending on where the last phonecall originated at 1:11, Casey had approx. 44 minutes to get to the house, look for a shovel, and go borrow one from the neighbor.  I think she was trying to get into the sheds, trying to figure out what to do.  She probably had about half an hour to come up with borrowing the shovel.  Seems like she was in a desperate situation to have to borrow that shovel.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MisterMichaelJ on September 07, 2008, 01:47:16 PM
I'm shocked  ::MonkeyShocked:: If you look real close you can see through the front window what's going on in the Anthony home this morning  ::MonkeyShocked::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/camsunday.jpg)






 ::MonkeyHaHa::

HOLY SHIT! lol   Now THAT is the funniest thing I have seen since July 16th!!!   I love you hahahaha


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Blue Moon on September 07, 2008, 01:49:47 PM
6/18 calls:

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

I feel sure that Caylee was in, or ended up in, the car trunk during Casey's visit home on the 18th. I feel sure the calls were to establish that no one was home, and the reason she wanted to be sure was because she couldn't risk a confrontation with anyone who would make her open that trunk. The calls begin and end at home, and judging from the calls to cell phones, she was most concerned about being confronted by Cindy.

I agree with you completely.

Casey didn't waste any time on that day (6/18). The last call was 1:11pm and it was made to the house. According to the neighbor's statement, she was in the garage and borrowing a shovel by 1:30 pm.
Yup,sorry CBB,I didn't read ahead before I posted that exact thing.
Casey was probably around the corner from her house making those calls.

Casey hadn't returned the shovel by 2:30.  I think the neighbor took a shower, came out and it was 10 minutes later.  Shovel borrowed for 45 min. to an hour.  So, the shovel came back around 2:40, making it borrowed at about 1:40 at the earliest; 1:55 at the latest.

Depending on where the last phonecall originated at 1:11, Casey had approx. 44 minutes to get to the house, look for a shovel, and go borrow one from the neighbor.  I think she was trying to get into the sheds, trying to figure out what to do.  She probably had about half an hour to come up with borrowing the shovel.  Seems like she was in a desperate situation to have to borrow that shovel.



I don't think the shovel was used to break into the shed. Heck the HAMMER could have been readily available for that purpose. ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: Slogger on September 07, 2008, 01:50:04 PM
Suppose it happened like this:

6/15:  Father's Day, big argument, Casey grabs Caylee and storms out.

6/15/ to 6/16:  Caylee in the trunk, Casey finds her in the morning.

6/16:  Early afternoon, Casey begins calling the parents, checking their whereabouts (making sure they aren't home.)  Parents don't answer because they are angry, and tired of Casey's antics.

6/16:  Casey believes parents not home, buries Caylee in the yard using the Anthony shovel, and takes gas cans.  Shed doors unlocked, but after this the Anthonys lock up.


I don't believe George's story of seeing Casey and Caylee.  I do believe the story is a lie to confuse the time Caylee was last seen.
I totally agree with your timeline Slogger.I think George knew what happened from 6/16 on and Cindy is soooo good with those blinders of hers that she didn't know for sure till 7/15.

I'm thinking that George didn't know until after the 24th, when he reported gas cans missing, but he could have know earlier and used the gas can information to establish the 24th instead of the 16th.

I think Casey came back on the 18th (after using the Anthonys' shovel)  expecting to use the shovel, but it was locked up.  When Casey couldn't get the shovel to dig up Caylee, she borrowed the neighbor's shovel.

If Casey had been able to get the gas cans on the 18th, she would have used the Anthonys' shovel.  I believe she backed the car up to the house to get Caylee, not to deliver Caylee.
Aahh......Now that makes perfect sense to me!
LE did take the neighbors shovel as evidence,I am praying they found evidence on it.
OK,George is not positive about the date of the shed breakin/gascans being stolen.Dang,I just noticed the days between when she borrowed the shovel(6/18)and when George reported shed breakin.I assumed she used the borrowed shovel to break into the shed?Hmmmm....thinking.....

It could be that the body was in the trunk on the 18th.  Casey makes a number of calls that day:

JUNE 18-

12:33p Call to Cindy at home

12:34p Call to Cindy's cell

12:35p Call to Cindy at home

12:36p Call to George's cell

1:09p Call to Cindy's cell

1:11p Call to Cindy at home

Shortly after these calls, the neighbor sees Casey back into the garage (which he says she never does), then comes over to borrow a shovel.

She moves the body to the backyard (explaining the decomp the dogs detected).  She starts to dig a hole (the depression/disturbed area next to the pool), but it's hard work and she doesn't have much time.  She abandons the effort, returns the body to the trunk, and returns the shovel.

She returns to the house on June 22nd, bringing the kitchen knife found in the car, to break into the shed and steal the gas cans.  I also believe she stole a shovel (more on that later).  She disposes of the body somewhere on June 22nd.  Four days later, the smell in the car is unbearable, so she dumps it at the Amscot.

In early video of the garage, there is a shovel leaning against the wall.  As anal as those people are, the shovel would have been in the shed along with the rest of the tools.  Did George remove the shovel from the trunk when he cleaned out the car?

I'm thinking more like she buried Caylee in the backyard on 6/16-6/17 then went back on 6/18...backed car into garage,borrowed shovel,dug Caylee(I'm so sorry sweet Angel)up,returned shovel...like Slogger posted.
I'm kinda thinking the shed wasn't broken into....wait,there's a police report so I think George himself broke into the shed and took the gascans....trying to futhur Casey's alibi somehow.

I thought of that, too.  But the Anthony's dog(s) bother me.  I don't believe the dog(s) would have left a buried corpse alone - I think it would have driven them nuts.  The Anthony dog(s) are the main reason I suspect a dead body was not back there long, and might be the reason Casey changed her mind about burying Caylee there.


I don't believe much that the Anthonys say, but I do believe the dog(s) were kept from leaving presents in Caylee's play area.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
Posted on the MyFoxOrlando blog:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub4/myfoxblog1.jpg)

http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=1749
Thanks Klaas
This same poter just posted that they are allowing the searchers to search behind the school....the school that was already mentioned a while back?The one Kiomarie or whoever was talking about?

Karma - I'm not sure the location of the school.
Thanks Klaas


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: FLGrammy on September 07, 2008, 01:51:12 PM
WHAT IF: June the 8th was the day Caylee was at nursing home..and...Caylee died before the 12th (day jogger was killed at Blanchard)...jogger just happened to 'run-up' on people who were burying Caylee and they killed the jogger......and...buried Caylee right underneath where they placed the jogger's body? NO HUMAN BEING would EVER look beneath the dirt for a dead child where the body of a dead jogger lies!
  (I already forwarded that tip during mid-July)  Oh well

Unless the date on the camera is wrong, and there's nothing to indicate it was, according to LE the date that photo of Caylee and great GP was taken was June 15, 2008.

Yes, but, PEOPLE set the dates on video cams, AND, guests lists can easily be signed........that might be the whole cover-up, and why they initially said they haven't seen her since the 8th/9th!!!

And, "Clint" looks like a friggin TWINK!!  Believe none of what you hear, and only 1/2 of what you see!!



LE has a witness from the nursing home on fathers' day - one of the workers. 

Here is another map of the school.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?wip=2&v=2&rtp=~&FORM=MSNH#JnE9eXAuaGlkZGVuK29ha3MrZWxlbWVudGFyeStvcmxhbmRvK2ZsJTdlc3N0LjAlN2VwZy4xJmJiPTUwLjIzMzE1MTgzMjQ3MjIlN2UtNDEuNDg0Mzc1JTdlMTguOTc5MDI1OTUzMjU1MyU3ZS0xMTguMTI1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: MisterMichaelJ on September 07, 2008, 01:53:20 PM
Klass, that really got my church bells ringing!!   That was brilliant...priceless!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #17
Post by: nomorenekkiddogs on September 07, 2008, 01:53:46 PM
HI MOnkey's,  :2waver:  I have been reading for weeks.  You guys are all so  great.  I love how you are all so kind to everyone and believe that this is the board for me.  I hate how on some of those other boards always have drama going on between posters.

I think it is great what you are all doing to help find this precious angel, you guys really have heart.    Just wanted to say hi all, I will probably be just reading mostly as I am shy, but I am right here all the way cheering you all on.

BTW, slow down a little, I am tired from all the running I have to do to catch up all the time ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh and can someone help me figure out how to keep my page if I have to leave.  I keep forgetting where I left off.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Welcome Nomore:

I just keep logged into the site and the thread and minimize the window.  Also, I keep my computer on 24/7  ::MonkeyCool::






THanks Klass, that works IF I don't get bumped off.  My computer keeps losing its connection for some reason.  Don't know if it is this site or my computer, lol   :smt102


Title: Re: Caylee Mar