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 ::MonkeyCool::

ahhhh...clean cage!! ::MonkeyDance::

Cheerio? Did you make it? I want to know more, please! How was the little boy? Did they expect him to survive??

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 :cool:  That one is just for Robots!

::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Carpe, this is your video of the "mother of the year" statement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beou01EVZlI

Klaas, I'm not sure if this is what Carpe is looking for, but it's in text format.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26223950/

Even though Cindy, when speaking of her daughter, said “she will get the mother of the year award for what she’s done for Caylee,” few appear ready to cast such a vote for Casey at this time. Cindy has alternated between blaming the media for her missing granddaughter to blaming some unidentified gang of kidnappers. Cindy Anthony continues to pour out her daughter’s unsubstantiated story that Caylee is being held by kidnappers and that Casey can’t tell all she knows as it would further endanger her daughter. 

Lee brought back some friends from Puerto Rico

Is that Lee?

IF she was kidnapped. They would have let her go or kill her by now (or sell her) because they have heard the news---NOBODY HAS ANY MONEY TO PAY RANSOM!

Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #3
« Reply #1978 on: Today at 07:15:55 PM » Quote 

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Banana Cream Pie all around on me, thanks for all the replies. The story inside the paper is incredible. The mother told the police "While they ate a picnic lunch beside the road a man jumped from a car and attacked her. She screamed, so the man pushed her away and seized the two children, one under each arm and ran into the woods. (but first turned to hand her a script).She followed but couldn't find any trace of them. After searching for a while she gave up and returned to New York City. While she wove this FANTASTIC TALE, detectives were questioning Jimmy (son) whose account of the tragedy was much more coherent after a nights sleep." The boyfriend's name is George to cap it off.

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Cheerio - I wonder if Casey could have read about this one the Internet.  Grabbing the kids and handing her a script is really incredible.  It's exactly like one of the versions of Zany in the park.

The truck is gone again......

SS Thanks for the info on the SSDI. I didnt know that. I can say its been an excellent resource in doing geneaology so I use it often.

So not finding him there might means maybe  hes still living, was self employed,or never recieved SSDI benefits.

Are there a lot of unclothed people in the cage or is it my computer?  ::MonkeyEek::

I brought this over from the previous thread.

JC Penney cards can be used at CVS drugstores and Sears cards can be used at KMart. Maybe there's some things on the cards that whoever had access to them needed for the crime?

You can file a complaint if your card was used by someone else. The bank will do an investigation, look at videos etc before they reimburse you.  Maybe they were afraid what they would see?

Nevermind.... I think the cam is back on the shot from yesterday am.  They need to fix that!

Did anybody else catch this in interview #3 with Cindy?  She and the two detectives, Melich and Edwards, I believe, shift around and switch seats so that she can be closer to the calendar as they go over dates.   Melich picks up her purse and puts it on the table and says something to the effect that he didn't want her to leave without it as it was kind of hidden under the chair she had been sitting in.  Get this huge implication......

Cindy:  "Women don't leave their purses in cars or other places."

Edwards; "Naahhh....sometimes it happens"

Cindy:  "Noooo, not usually"

When you hear her tone, you know exactly what she means.   (Casey couldn't have been the one to have left the purse and/or car at the Amscot.)


I just want to throttle these people.   I could, too.  I'm pretty buff for a "girl".   LOL!  I kid.

I did Find an eric baker on myspace no links to casey or anyone for that matter Casey listed his DOD 8-11-2007 ~This guy was last logged on on
11-8-07..So probably not him But his link is here...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=150432382

CAAAAARPE!!!

This YouTube is one of your creations. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet

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CASEY ANTHONY - MOTHER OF THE YEAR!
Cindy Anthony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beou01EVZlI

August 10, 2008

 ::MonkeyEek:: Wow, seriously? I have never heard of that.. especially not JP cards being used at a CVS store.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Yeah, I took down a note when she said that!!!

That really was a ridiculous statement for her to make at that time, I thought!

Hey monkeys-I just registered even though ive been reading for several days. U guys are the bomb with the info and the possible scenarios. There is so much info out there that ive been trying to get caught up. ::MonkeyConfused::
The thought that they dont find this baby is killing me. My DH thinks im crazy, "absolutely" for my insane emotional attachment to this case, but something about that little girl just grabbed at my heartstrings and i cant rest until she gets some justice. Forgive me for my postings as i am technologically challenged and dont know all the computer tricks!!

 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

I am also a genealogist, and many times I've searched the SSDI with no success.  If he died in Florida, his name will eventually appear on the Florida Death Index.  Florida is one of only a few States that actually publishes a list.  It sometimes takes a few years for the name to appear, though.

OT IN A WAY -The Ridgeway name threw me off. I once worked with Wendy Coffields father 1983-84. She was a Green river victim .He mentioned his daughter was murdered. He was so sad when he spoke of it.

Dammit..you caught me!

Did the daddy supposedly die on the way to her first or second birthday (per Casey)?  From what I've read so far, that sounds like the one that seems to be the most likely, but I haven't really read up much on this.  Who knows, though.  No telling which teensy morsel of this doozy of a story is the true part.

Welcome to the cage, kcrn !!!

People here are very friendly and happy to help when you need it.

Glad you joined us

 ::MonkeyDance::

Welcome kcrn!!![/color]

Welcome! Glad you decided to join us. This case has a lot of people emotionally more than others. I am one of them.

Hi kcrn :)

Any case of a missing child is heartbreaking, but like you said.. there's just something about Caylee. She was such a precious little girl, and it is so hard to believe that her own mom didn't think so. I really do hope they find her so that her mom can be brought to justice.

Make sure you have the right cam:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Hi KC!!

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on Aug 15/08 Cindy was quoted as saying Casey will be mother of the year
this was on a interview on msmbc to Clint van Zan

yes me too, I'm gonna google it. reminds me of the Diane Downs story too (think thats her name)

A better bet is searching obits.

Welcome kcrn - be honest, you joined so you could use the monkey emoticons, right?   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hi, kcrn.  Glad to have you!  I'm really curious about your username.  If it's not too personal, are you an RN or does it stand for something totally different?

(I ask because I'm an RN and I think we have a few other RNs here.)

Anyway, welcome!

Thanks! I don't think Cheerio made it, at least not yet. I am interested in this, too.

Thanks Mary!

why is it still daylight in Arlahndo???? ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Thanks Klaas

  Woosh... I'm here thanks, there was a photo of Jimmy recuperating, of course bandaged from head to toe.

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

That's very sad.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: There's a lot of sick people out there.   Ridgeway was definitely one of them.

Yipppee! Glad you made it.

i hope im replying correctly-like i said, technologically challenged! Yes i am an RN and the kc is just initials:)Thx for the welcome!

Opinion: It's time to tell the truth, Casey!
Too many lies surround whereabouts of Caylee Anthony, FBI profiler says

COMMENTARY
By Clint Van Zandt
MSNBC
updated 2:55 p.m. PT, Fri., Aug. 15, 2008

Even though Cindy, when speaking of her daughter, said “she will get the mother of the year award for what she’s done for Caylee,” few appear ready to cast such a vote for Casey at this time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26223950/

Welcome!!! This story grabbed alot of us. The lack of compasion or should I say human instincts from a mother is most disturbing to me.

I would be a total mess not knowing if my child was hungry, scared, cold, crying for me....

When I don't see that, huge red flag. Even IF she sold her or gave her away wouldn't you still miss her. CRY or something!

 

Sorry the script thing was my poor attempt at humor ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh ya hes was one sick puppy. Sorry my dates up top should read 1982-83.

NG is on.  Is this new or a repeat???

ROTFL!! I fell for that, too!  ::cartwheel::

You know, its really difficult for a mother to see where Casey is coming from or how this could happen...

My youngest is 5..born in '03...Up until August, I had never left her....I worked nights sometimes, and left her when I had to go to work, but other than that, I never left her overnight until August..I only had to go to Atlanta on business, and its 2and ahalf hours away from me..I cried all the way there, when  Igot there, and couldnt wait to get home..My friends tell me, "Nikki, you need a break sometimes..its ok to leave her...." But I dont see it that way...
I am a MOTHER...I have a job to do and have been entrusted by God to raise these blessings He has given me...
My oldest goes to her grandma's on the weekends..has been since she was 2..and I STILL hate it..and when she goes somewhere on a plane with her grandma, Its over....I squall for the whole time she's gone...she's 16..God help me when she leaves home.... ::MonkeyEek::

So, I cant understand it..my kids ARE my life....I dont have a life outside of them....
How can a mother do this?????

omg..that is funny!! Make sure noone drops a peel on their lawn.  Cindy carries a hammer!!!  ::cartwheel::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: IDK! Cannot comprehend.

I did that last night when I first saw it..I sat up all night long and searched obit but found nothing...nothing in SSDI nothing on Intellius or knowx so I do not no..Only thing I was trying to find is I no there is a site where you can search people that were in the army but i cant find it

Welcome!       LOL my initials are KC also, I reversed them for obvious reasons :)

Over many weeks, I have tried to come up with “compelling reasons” for this mess. As soon as I think I’ve found one, I can shoot it down.  Here are a few that I have tried on for size... Please realize I don’t believe any of these!!!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:: No nanners, please….

1)Very early on (before decomposition, etc.) I had a theory that Casey had been enlisted into some undercover (no pun intended) activity. I kept thinking maybe she could be a “snitch”. The “bad guys” caught on, and took Caylee as insurance. Taking care of a 3 year old is hard work (harder than working a 12 hour shift, just ask Casey). This theory went into the trash a long time ago.

2)Casey was involved with some organized or semi-organized criminal activity. She either did something or saw something that she shouldn’t or had some responsibility (delivery, etc . The “bad guys” took Caylee to keep her quiet or as collateral. Early on, I thought this plausible. That was before the decomp smell in the car and other evidence coming out…. Again, taking care of a 3 year old is hard work…

3)Casey gave Caylee to someone to save her from an abusive environment. Verbal and physical abuses in the home have been at least alleged. It could even be dirtier than that if some of the other speculation were proven. But, why this charade? Why not just get a damn job and move out???? 

4)Some good Samaritan really did take Caylee to rescue her from an unfit mother. Sorry – if that were the case, why haven’t they come forward? There’s enough evidence out now to prove that Casey is unfit, and GC&L don’t look too good either. I can’t believe if Caylee were found alive right now that authorities would allow her to be returned to that family.

Baez has his work cut out for him. Because I think his client is a lying, spiteful, beeyotch….

 yes its on web....many different sights. Hate how its worded....young girls body found hacked with slit throat :(

http://brookhavensouthhaven.org/HamletPeople/tng/getperson.php?personID=I8581&tree=hamlet

oops graphic pic should warn first sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That it is......

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=91227560

Eric Baker musician NC

apx 500,000 hits for Eric Baker/Google  ::MonkeyRoll::

I also dont beleive the accident theory...here is why.....
If I accidently hurt my child, or she accidently got hurt, I would be on the phone with 911, while enroute to the hospital..I would be screaming my freaking head off, begging God to take me instead, hysterical...
then, if she passed away, I would be locked in a mental institution for the remainder of my existance...

THAT is why Caylee's demise was not accidental...if it were , and Casey REALLKY loved her...that is how she wouldve acted....

Pretty sure NG is always a repeat on the weekends

Hi! The mother was sentenced to 20 to life and is PLEADING to see her little boy!

Yes.......always.

Thanks Klaas.  It took me a few minutes, but i figured it out.
Slow night around here.  Monkeys must be out drinking those dirty bananas

Didn't Cindy say he was supposed to be from TN or KY?

I do like this Eric's music on his page, though :)

ITA - this was NO accident. There's no way to explain it where the definition of "accident" would apply.

Geeeeeezz!!!! THANK YOU, MRS. KUB... I had been looking for it all day! ::cartwheel::


You're great.

I almost bought the accident theory in the beginning, BUT not for a long time now.  If it were an accident Biaz would have had her talking a long time ago.  He knew the evidence was there to prove his client lied about any accident theory she would tell and he would have never risked that.
Now that we know she was searching missing childrens websites and has an anti death penalty icon on her computer and she was searching for the name Zanieda prior to june 15.....cannot be anything but pre-meditation. 

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/27/petition_protests_possible_movie_deal_on_caylee.html

Baez Reviews Newly-Released Documents
Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:10:55 PM

ORLANDO -- Casey Anthony's lawyer said his firm is now going over the newly-released documents to make sure they're accurate.
   
A firm representing Jose Baez released a statement Friday and said they're going over each line because "history has proven that even official papers could be altered."
   
The statement went on to criticize the media for its reporting of the case, but did say none of the newly released documents held any surprises.

News 13 attempted to set up an interview with Baez, but his representative said the attorney has an agreement with a national network to provide exclusive interviews through next week.  $$$$$$$$

O/T:

I just want to say that I am enjoying everyone's avatar Halloween costumes, don't want to take up lots of posts saying that to each person individually. So, to everyone, I like your costumes!

Btw, I am just a little hurt no one noticed mine tonight.
 ::MonkeyWaa::

Oh, and carpe .. did you see my new tag line?
 ::MonkeyDance::

Sorry, back to the topic.
 ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks for the update Klaas...I think I will skip anything he has to say...if I wanted to hear an ass talk I would fart.

I wonder if his exclsuive interview agreement is with NBC????  He did the interview with them this past week.

I think yours is cool..great graphics.  I liked your doggy too though so dont think I didnt!

this is eerily similar to Casey....the gasoline, the script, and another article states she told them coldly and calmly she wanted to get rid of them to make room for the man she wanted to marry....whoa

I did notice and I love your Holloween costume/avatar!  ::MonkeyCool::

It is eery that someone could do this...its eery that Casey is currently doing this.  There was not a script though, Cheerio was joking about that...still the similarities are there though......mind of a psycho!! (que the music Klaas)

Brandi, I noticed your avatar and thought how cool it was..

I too, like everyone's avatar.

Hello there Monkeys, how's everyone tonight?
*sneaking* out.....back to lurking mode... ::MonkeyCool::

Here is a post from MyFoxOrlando

MSinIndy
Sep 27, 2008 | 9:07 PM Here is the entire post. The lady that posted this info is a regular blogger and I assume she would only post good info. I posted here because I felt this was good information.

okay - found the contents of trash bag, IF this is the same one... found it on the "What happened last Wed." thread:
Inventory List
Contents of White Plastic Trash Bag in Car
McDonalds bag w/ loose French fires in bottom
Hair scrungies & elastics (several)
Ketchup pkgs (empty)
DVD (case only) Girls Gone Wild Panama City
Snickers wrapper
Hair clips
Pizza crust, stale
Admissions packet Lake-Sumter Community College, School of Cosmetology
Lotto scratchoff tickets, 3, Blazin Red Hot Bucks, scratched off
Pamphlet “So You Want to be a Model” Barbizon School of Modeling
Nail polish Passion Pink
Payday candybar wrapper
Tee-shirt size S Homer Simpson logo
Withdrawal slips Bank of America (various names and accounts)
Application for Admission El Petito Academio page 8 only “Character Witnesses, parents must have 3”(blank)
Bra size 34 B with attached padding, animal print design
Lotto scratchoff tickets Hot 100s Qty 3, scratched off
Burger King hamburger wrappers (several)
Pair, men’s boxer shorts, size XXL,“Home of the Whopper” Burger King logo
Dunkin Donuts bag, crumpled, stale donut holes in bag
Parking ticket, pink copy, 6/16/08 location torn off

I find the parking ticket significant
also
My kids were always nuts for doughnut holes -- definitely 3-year-old food.

I think this list is accurate - what do you think?

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http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=4496

Kristen I searched and searched too..Even went through Colonial High Alumni I too found nothing...

Please do not ban me for posting something political...I could not stop myself, lol.

IIRC this post threw a LOT of us Monkeys on a rampage.  Turned out it was a hoax.  It was posted back atleast a week and half ago.  A guy had done it as a joke and even admitted the whopper boxers were his....EW!!

YES I did SS, honestly I didn't know it WAS her body when I first looked. I thought that it was going to be the spot where her body was found!!!!

pretty creepy that pic was, guess they did things differently back then. I can't imagine them being so close and not bothered by the decomp

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Baez is always talkin out his azz  ::MonkeyHaHa::

oh no script eh  :oops:

Oh stop with the oops..we all fell for it.  It is eery though...its so basic, she kills kid for lover...this case could be that simple as well.  Not saying Tony wanted her too...it would more read "Kills kid for LOVERS"

I wanted to stop back in and say thanks for the warm welcome earlier today.

Nikki, that was sure a cute weeble you posted earlier, thanks!

I'm thinking after reading Mr Birch's statement, he needs a hero award.  He jumped into that dumpster in his jammies!  And OCSD, they should get medals of honor for having to deal with these lunatics. 

I think this was premeditated, and the family knew Caylee was gone the instant they encountered that car.  Accomplices change according to my mood, but from the start I suspected George. It's all opinion, of course.




 

I think he posted later it was his idea of a joke.

oh.....sorry. I was going to ask where the rotting pizza and maggots were, lol.

Totally O/T but Klaas cute monkey witch....I can not wait to see Red's avi in Halloween garb.  LOL

The Anthony's really should capitalize on this Halloween...they could sell tickets to view the "House of Sl-Horrors"....(No need for costumes there..)

I may have to switch it for him, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Absolutely!

::MonkeyHaHa::

Can someone make me a halloweenie costume  too pretty please?

Yeah, I caught that!  Does she mean she has never, ever left her purse behind, ever?  Because I know I have a few times, my sil is known for leaving her purse behind and oh, CA, what about your daughter when she left her purse in her car?  Was CA's purse still there when George got her car?  To quote Alice in Wonderland, curious and more curious. :)

People at the end of the drive ... hard to see in the dark though.

Oh Carpe...I found you your costume!!

(https://www.sonshinecraft.com/catalog/images/I1087%203x3%20halloween%20elmo.jpg)

And just what would you like Mtn? 

(http://www.houseoftheorangemonkey.co.uk/postimages/halloween4.jpg)

Brandi wrote:
People at the end of the drive ... hard to see in the dark though.

I see that.  Is anyone else as shocked as me that there are not protestor's after all this info?

What you don't get and so many don't is that a sociopath has NO EMOTIONAL FEELINGS>  No geniune feelings, no attachments.  Caylee was just a thing to her.  This is why people can't wrap their minds around why she is the way she is.  Caylee got in the way of her life, she wanted to be free. She finally snapped when the big fight broke out Father's Day night and she decided it was time.  Totally premeditated, IMO

Last one I PROMISE!!

(http://daisycara.com/monkey/halloween06/Daisy_Halloween_06.jpg)

How about a spooky house maybe? I will be happy with what you choose. thanks

chrisk49 wrote:
What you don't get and so many don't is that a sociopath has NO EMOTIONAL FEELINGS>  No geniune feelings, no attachments.  Caylee was just a thing to her.  This is why people can't wrap their minds around why she is the way she is.  Caylee got in the way of her life, she wanted to be free. She finally snapped when the big fight broke out Father's Day night and she decided it was time.  Totally premeditated, IMO
My comment:
Plus, a serial bully or narcissist is an agenda for one - all about the person, always right and will do whatever it takes to disarm those in his/her way.  <--- Cliff notes version, btw.

Thats easy..just link your avitar to the webcam...you will be all set then.

Here are a couple of spooky houses if anyone wants them:

Aren't costume changes being done here:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3331.0

That's Daisy Marie in her halloween costume! She's a famous sock monkey - I kid you not!  ::MonkeyDance::

::MonkeyLaugh::

cool Brandi! can i use the bottom one?

CBB has a Halloween avatar thread.  Please take a look here.  You may already have one.  She is also taking requests. 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3331.msg470729#new

Sure!!

Daisy Marie's home page http://www.daisycara.com/monkey/  ::MonkeyHaHa::

A News Junkie - yes they are.

Please try and stay on topic in this thread.  I know I'm guilty of off topic myself at time  ::MonkeyCool::

Recently someone gained access to two of my credit cards.  They were with Chase.  There was a charge of $423 for postage stamps from a PO in Kansas and $50 for some matchmaker website.  Also two airline tickets, Air Berlin and SAS.  The PO in Kansas called me and I called Chase.  The charges were immediately removed and the cards cancelled and new cards issued.  No problem.

Sorry if pointing it out was wrong of me.  I have 70 pages to catch up on and reading with all the off topics - gets so frustrating. I had noticed that the other day, and didn't know if it was know.  Again, sorry.

I should have said that the PO in Kansas called me about the stamps and when I called Chase we went over my charges and discovered the others. Chase removed those which were not mine.

Go to the Monkey Lounge.  There is a section for Holloween avatars.  CBB makes them.

Sorry Klaas

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Just been there thanks. Sorry I went OT.

Wait a minute!!!! Are we supposed to wear clothes here?  Uh-Oh.

Can we email Red and ask him?  or maybe Klaas could email him and ask? We would have an exact location rather than a guess then.

IMO

That is soooo cute! I am a huge sock monkey fan! I still have the homemade one from my granny, she made it in 1975! I also recently spotted sock monkies at Wal-Mart!
Long live sock monkies!

He doesn't remember and I guess he couldn't find it in his notes.  He said it was near the airport.  He suggested that we ask Florida Blue because she is a local and she was there with him when they searched that area.

Hi I am home.  i expected to find my computer in a million plastic shards when I got here.  I was wondering, I havent got to read hardly anything - is there anything that really stood out?????

Red will probably find out.  He may have already emailed Florida Blue.

Ah gotcha. 

The Diane Downs Story   1 Daughter Died, Oldest daughter had 1 arm that was
paralized and she couldn't talk for months, her son is in a wheelchair for life and will
never walk again.  The good part of this is, the prosecutor that worked this case
adopted both the kids and they are in good hands and hopefully can live a good life.
She will never see those kids again.

Every now and again all the Monkeys are invisible.  I reboot my computer and ... like waving a wand all the Monkeys appear and ... once again all is right with my world.

It has something do with cookies.  When younger son is over ... he "removes my cookies" but ... he must take them all home to his wife because he never leaves me any.

  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

Glad to hear you made it home safely.  Nothing new other than the George Anthony audio interrogation.  :)

Carpe is putting together a video..everyone is changing their avi for halloween..(well almost everyone)

We still have not found Caylee..but listen to GA's interrogation its very enlightening....to say the least.

Well goodnight Monkeys. I had a sleepless night last night so Im off to la la land.

Thanks to all those who helped this new monkey to find the halloween avi's.

Sweet dreams,
Mtnmom

Good night, sweet dreams, Mtnmom ;-)

Canadian Thanksgiving is on October 13th ... prior to Halloween.  I would appreciate if Ducky and I could be dressed up to reflect the occassion.

Thank you.

Janet

Hi Monkeys,  catching up as usual.

I brought this over for Janet.

[quote Janet]
It may imply that Cindy/George and/or the credit card companies may be forced to file charges but ... if somebody fraudulently puts charges on a credit card ... is the owner of the credit card not reimbursed?

That is my understanding in regards to my Visa.

Janet

_________________
I worked for a Discover Card for many years.   They offered Cardmembers additional insurance for situations like this, but not sure if it's included now.

However,  if the theft is caused by a known person/family member, you HAVE to press charges before they will even consider crediting your account for the loss.  Depending on how big the loss, they would go to court with company attorneys to get restitution.   But the amount had to be pretty large, to be worth paying court costs, etc.   So my guess, is since we know Cindy has repeatedly, publicly stated Casey stole the money, unless she presses charges, the Credit card company will make Cindy pay the amount.  Which, I'm sure she did!  Or those charges would have been brought out too, like Amy's.

When Discover Card first started back in '85, when I became employed, after a years stint in the New Account dept. I worked in the Security/Fraud dept.  Boy do I have some interesting stories, I won't go into here and now!   But one of the obvious, is how they worked with LE to follow suspected criminals by their credit card use.  I remember, they found a murdered man, in the trunk of his own car, after using this method, but they tracked them down after it was too late.    I believe, most people in this day and age, know how easy it is to work with Credit Card companies to track there whereabouts, by where they are using the cards, which are typically stolen.

Just had to throw that in,  back to catching up, like usual!   Hopefully be caught up soon!

In Canada Sears cards have all been turned into Master Cards now. I got mine about 3 weeks ago.

Thank you very much!!!

That is soooo disgusting.

That is what I thought.

A couple months ago ... charges from a local restaurant appeared twice on our statement.  It was an obvious mistake by the new waitress who served us.  I contacted the owner of the  restaurant and ... informed him that I was contacting VISA.  VISA immediately reversed one of the charges on our next statement.

I believe there is a time limited after you receive your statement to report any discrepancies.

Thank you.

Janet

Hi Monkeys

This is my 1st post - my 1st forum. I've hung out here for weeks. Reading everything.  You are the best - I've laughed with you and cried with you over this case.  I read on a lot of sites, but your group really finds the stuff and really go all out when it comes to getting things done.  I really like the way you all work together in throwing ideas around and the pieces of the puzzle are starting to come together.

Anyway, I finally decided to join in the fun.  Forgive my awkwardness if you will in posting as this is new to me.  Thanks!

Hello and welcome.  I like your avi, kinda scary!!!

Welcome to the cage, InnerMonkey!

Lots of us are still new here, don't feel shy.

Just jump in with both feet and enjoy your stay!

Welcome Inner Monkey. Is that Hamlet Monkey holding the skull of Yorick Monkey?

When I was on vacation, there was this one baby who was one years old.  I said "oh he has new teeth" and the 3 year old little girl said "yes, God gave them to him".  I almost cried........

Welcome InnerMonkey! 

Yes, you are correct.  I enjoy plays and such.

How do we know that anyone in this family is telling the truth about anything?

 We only have George's word that he last saw Caylee on the 16th.  No way to be sure about that.  It rings true in some ways, but his detailed description of what both Casey and Caylee were wearing makes me suspicious.

 I certainly doubt almost everything Cindy utters.  I find it hard to believe, for example, that she had heard of a nanny named Zannie for two years.  As controlling as she is, I just cannot imagine her not seeing, talking to, visiting the home of a person who was keeping Caylee.  If Cindy really thought that Casey went every weekday to a nanny, I think she would have insisted on meeting the person, having the person's phone number, etc. 

 We cannot be sure that anything these people,including Lee, say is true.   

What was the date that Casey's friend said she and Caylee and her friends children went on a walk? I thought that was around June, 18. Does anyone remember?

I agree. All of them have told lies at some point. Or "mistruths" as Cindy likes to call them.

About George saying he saw Caylee and Casey leave on the 16th ... I don't believe it at all. I don't think they spent the night of the 15th there. Also, Cindy said in here interview that she "knew" Caylee and Casey were home that morning as she went to work, because, get this: "their door was closed."  um ..
ok.

Just found this in the computer documents off CA's computer:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42598215.pdf

Eric James Baker

The following entry was located on the HP desktop computer about an "Eric James Baker."

Then there's computer stuff about the settings.

Eric James Baker
>in memory of an old friend

"We all have great inner power.  The power of self-faith.  There's really an attitude to winning.  You have to see yourself winning before you win.  And you have to be hungry.  You have to want to conquer."  -Jesus Ortiz

Forever in my heart.

Someone special: 

R.I.P.

Eric James Baker
12-8-83 -

Baez Reviews Newly-Released Documents
Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:04:02 PM

Petitioners Protests Possible Movie Deal

The search for little Caylee Anthony is a story stretching outside Central Florida.

A new petition circulating the Internet is gaining support from people across the country who are upset the Anthony family may be making money off the little girl's disappearance.

The Web site is called "Lifetime Should Not Pay For A Movie About Caylee Anthony."

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/lifetime-should-not-pay-for-a-movie-about-caylee-anthony

It states, "We the undersigned will not stand for any media outlet buying the Casey Anthony story from the Anthony Family before the full conclusion of this case and Caylee is brought home."

So far, the petition has more than 1,000 signatures. Their goal is to collect 10,000.

Some petitioners left messages along with their names.

A petitioner from South Carolina states: "The money should go to the Texas EquuSearch foundation to help find missing children."

Another wrote, "No one should profit from a murder!"

The creator of the petition states the signatures will go to the Lifetime Network in an effort to prevent a $2 million movie deal for Casey Anthony's story.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/27/petition_protests_possible_movie_deal_on_caylee.html

I agree - Cindy most definitely would have wanted to know the babysitter, would have wanted to check her house to make sure it was safe enough for Caylee.   I could even imagine Cindy stopping in on occasion to check up on the "Zani" to make sure she was doing her job well enough. 

   More from the 1937 murder puts this in context. This was the mother's confession. "I did it" she said. "I cut Helen's throat first. I hit her twice on the back of the head with an ax handle. Then I cut Jimmy's throat. I hit him three times. I poured gasoline from a bottle I brought with me. I lit the gasoline. Helen came to for a minute. She crawled a little way, about five or six feet. Then she lay still. Jimmy didn't move. I threw some leaves and weeds over them. Then I went back to the railroad station."  A person must not even see the victims as living creatures to do this, never mind your own child. Another similarity in the story... "George slept on one side of the bed and I slept in the center and Helen slept on the other side and Jimmy lay across the foot of the bed. But it was very uncomfortable, we just couldn't put up with it so I had to get rid of the kids, don't you see?"   Also some comments from people... "They were darling children and Mrs. Tierman was such a wonderful women who loved them so".  the little boy "was one of the cutest little fellows I have ever seen"   "she didn't seem to be a cruel woman". 

InnerMonkey, so glad you joined!  Looking forward to you 'chatting' and discussing.   You look like your doing great at your firsts post, so far to me!

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George sad he suspected that Casey had not been working for the past two years.  In reality, he knew it.  Cindy, too, knew it, I think.  But for some reason they played this ridiculous game with Casey.  Let's all sit down to dinner and pretend that Casey has a job and a sitter.  But every once in a while the game got tiresome and things came to a head and there was a lot of shouting and cursing and name-calling and accusations.  And Casey just kept telling the lies and coming up with more lies and eventually the parents backed down and went back into pretend mode. 

I signed that petition..I hate that they stated a story about caylee.I know where the money will go and casey will make it a story about her lies about what happened to caylee.

June 12 to June 14 – Christine Chester, a friend of Casey’s, says that she went for a walk with Casey and Caylee on one of these dates.

I also meant to add about the sleeping arrangements that Caylee slept in the bed with mommy and "friends" which must have put a cramp in her style.

Chris49, I think most of us understand what a sociopath is...the big question is how many sociopaths can be in one family? 

Okay, to quote myself her, CA grandma said that EJB lives in Kentucky or TN.  But do you see who the upon note was signed by?  Jesus Ortiz...the one that was killed in a car crash and who CA said was the father.  Jesus Ortiz must have been friends with EJB.  How ironic that they both died in a car accident.  At least now we have a death date for EJB.

Cindy and Caylee allegedly go swimming in the Anthony's pool. Afterwards, Cindy takes the ladder away from the pool and closes the gate.

June 16 – At or about 12:30 p.m., George Anthony allegedly sees Casey and Caylee leave with backpacks on their shoulders.

At 2:30 p.m., George Anthony leaves for work.

Between 3:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m., Casey allegedly makes numerous calls, lasting anywhere from a few seconds to a minute,  to her parents and several friends.

June 17 – Someone fills out a card at the Sawgrass Apartments. The signature on the card reads Zenaida Hernandez-Gonzalez.

The Anthony's allegedly notice that the gate to the swimming pool is open and the ladder is next to the pool.

Casey allegedly posts a message for a friend named "Amy" on a social networking Web site. The message reads:

"Cheer up me lady! I love you and can't wait to finally get you moved in."

June 18 – Casey allegedly borrows a shovel from a neighbor. Later that same day she is seen backing her car up to her parents garage.

June 20 to June 21 – Casey allegedly hangs out at a club in Orlando.
 

Source:http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/casey_anthony_full_coverage/timeline/june15-june21/june15-june21.html

Does anyone know where he was living or born this Chris? We could probably pull the obituary from the paper archives

Hey CBB,
Could I have a new avi? I like witches and cats. Thanks if you can help.
Cajun Miracle

That could also fit casey's  story about the accident on the way to caylee's birthday party..He died two days after caylees b-day..My kids dad was in the hospital for 2 days before they pronounced him brain dead..Just thinking out loud

Evening Monkey's,

Has the thought ever crossed anyone's mind that maybe "Zani the Nanny" was really Lee.  Maybe it was a cute nickname they made for him when he sat for Caylee.  Maybe the Anthony's won't say that because it would refute the Zenaida Gonzalez story and also might implicate Lee.  I mean why wouldn't the baby's uncle sit for his sister sometimes, and if he had his own place why wouldn't he let her crash there sometimes.  This thought occured to me when I was reading the Tony R messages and how she kept stalling him, maybe her brother was stringing her along that night about whether he would watch Caylee.    ::MonkeyCool::

Looks to me as if George is the last to see Caylee alive with Casey, IF he was telling the truth. Cindy said June 9th until the video was pointed out to her with a date of the 15th. I am wondering if and why George didn't correct that date, since he remembers the morning so well, down to clothing.

Not a new thought, I know, I am just thinking out loud.

Cindy Anthony has said the following about the father of Caylee.

"I don't know who he is."
"I thought it was Jesse Grund."  (Jesse had a paternity test soon after Caylee was born.)
"It was a friend who did not want to be in Caylee's life and who moved out of state and started his own family."
"Casey showed me an obit one day and said the guy in it was Caylee's father but I don't recall his name."
"We all knew who it was...an old friend who later was killed in a car wreck."

And on and on and on....and we wonder where Casey learned to lie?

Whew,  caught up finally, after skipping many pages.  Hard to tell what I've missed.  :(

Thanks Janet for sharing this.   I know they are all denying it, but I just signed it to make sure Lifetime gets the message!

Yeah, why didn't she take her shower at Lee's? I think Lee really did have a job. JMO

Lee had a job and was a party person himself.  I don't think he did much babysitting.  I have seen too many pix of him out partying.

My comments in between the  ::MonkeyCool::

About a year ago my debit card was  lost or stolen.  Someone charged up $500 on it...they took $250 out 2 times. I realized my card was gone when I went to use it at the store the next time. I called the bank and they froze my account immediately and sent me papers to sign and there was an affidavit for me to sign saying I didn't make those charges and I didn't authorize anyone else to.  The bank gave me my money back 10 days later and that was the end of it. Only thing we could figure out is that someone at the store I was at last saw me enter my pin number. No one else in my family knew my pin number so it was weird.

So I was wondering, if it was an habitual thing for Casey to do, maybe then CA would be SOL for getting her money back for charges. I'm thinking that family has a lot of drama.

Hi cajun miracle.  Here is the link to CBB's Halloween avatar thread:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3331.msg474355#new

Please go there and make your request.  That way CBB will be sure to see it and you can then pick it up when she finishes making it.

One other reason I am suspecting premeditation might be possible in this crime is that the body has not been found.  If a child is killed in a snapping incident, the parent will often dispose of the body quickly and without much thought, which means the body is found soon after, whether or not the child has been reported missing.

Someone put this child in a place where she would not be found for a long, long time...if ever.

I think Cindy would have checked out the lies, and maybe she did and each time Casey was confronted, Casey told more lies.  There is no way a woman as controlling as Cindy with such an investment in her grandchild's
care and lack of confidence in Casey's parenting would not have sought this information.  I think Casey just wore them down, and wore them down and when they came up for air, the pattern repeated itself. MO
Cindy did not change her behavior and continued the pattern of enabling,
humiliating, giving in, etc.  MO.
 

Lord have Mercy!   How graphic and sickening!  How could somebody do this, let alone, go into such graphic detail after the fact.   As far as the pic. in the paper goes, it does amaze me how times have changed.  I'm surprised it's not reversed as far as our media and culture is today.   Them having now problem showing this now, rather than how they did back in the 30's, where they couldn't even show a married couple in bed together on t.v. (e.g. I Love Lucy).   But Thank God, they don't!  Our society has already become so dissocatiated and immune from all the violence on the news, in the movies and t.v. shows.  Hence, this latest generation without a concience.  (I'm speaking, in general here, not all kids are violent, obviously)

Cindy never wanted the dad in the picture..That would screw her with custody if anything would of happened to casey..I can't believe that attorney that drew up the will for them didn't force them to give him a name of caylee's father. Cindy is so full of it. in her statement she said she told casey to keep an open mind about the step brother being in caylee's life.She stated you never know she may need a step brother for medical reasons..BLAH BLAH..Yet she can't remember the fathers full name to track down any of his family, if something did ever happen to casey and she had caylee..

Exactly!  That is what I have tried wrapping my mind around?  What are the odds?

Ok, well that is a creepy thought. Think of the most horrible cases, and then think there are others who just might snap at any moment. I hope it is an uncommon event.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Most normal people would feel that way, Shell ... but I think Cindy would not want to share the Grandparenting with anyone, myself. She was happy that the other set of grandparents were not involved. IMHO. This way she had control.

At first I thought this case might be an accident, but I too am leaning more and more to premeditation. Especially after hearing the audios and reading the pdfs regarding how the child was becoming a burden to not only to her partying, but also as a underton regarding her boyfriend relationships.  Read the Casey and NYItalianio3 Cell Phone transcript.

I will be more than glad to sign a petition.....There should be no financial gain from a story like this unless it goes to a search team or to a missing children's fund of some sort.

Makes one wonder the course of events that lead to Cindy going for counseling in the first place. They are not lies, if you deny the lies. Enabling, humiliating, giving in. A sad way to show love.

Everything with the Anthony's is like "their little secret", we won't tell you who the real father is.  We don't know who the real babysitter was.  They hint at answers but never commit.    They do their own investigations, and have a "little circle of trust" mentality going on. 

We do not want this happening to casey..This guy i believe was released after 7 years for the murder of his wife and 3 kids. An axe and a butcher's knife were the murder weapons

Trial
Hendricks was tried the following year and found guilty but doubts were raised as to his guilt due to the prosecution's perceived reliance on circumstantial evidence and anti-religious bias.
Among other factors, the prosecution attempted to link Hendricks' belief that divorce was a sin to the murders. The prosecution said that since Hendricks could not divorce, the only way out of his marriage was to kill his wife and children. Also at issue was the prosecution's belief that Hendricks calm demeanor when being told of the murders indicated guilt. Despite the fact that two weapons were used and the blood spatters indicated the presence of two perpetrators, the prosecution argued Hendricks' guilt and Hendricks' lawyers missed some key pieces of evidence (one was the proposed order of killings, and the hair and blood evidence on the weapons proving the prosecution's assertion to be incorrect). There were also some clear signs of evidence bungling (if not tampering) such as the containers of stomach contents (one of the children's "stomach content" vials contained food that she never ate).

Despite all these inconsistencies and the fact that the prosecution's case was purely circumstantial, Hendricks was found guilty and was sentenced to four consecutive life sentences. He served seven years in Menard Correctional Center in Illinois.

In 1991, he was acquitted and released after a retrial at the McLean County Law and Justice Center in Bloomington, Illinois.

In popular culture

Also note that they do not seem to have a support network of family and friends during this horrible time in their lives.

Because it is very difficult to support people who live in world of denial.  You either agree with their distorted reality or you are eliminated. 

I forgot to add after his release from jail he wrote a book.

I agree with you Monkeys---first I thought accident.....the more we read and hear though...that is becoming difficult to substantiate.  Honestly...the whole thing is becoming so convoluted ! 

How much longer do most Monkeys think until more charges are brought against the slore?   God, sometimes I almost want to feel sorry for her because she is so pitiful....but that doesn't last long because with all this evidence released..slowly you can see what a evil monster she is! 

The interview w/Jesse Grund's Father on NG revealed a lot too-----prior to little Caylee's disappearance---Casey Anthony tried to manipulate Jesse and his family....yet---she spent more time over there after the baby was first born than anywhere else.   This girl should be receiving some help from medical/psychological professionals right now instead of living at home under house arrest....she is mentally ill to put it nicely.

My friend's daughter was a single mom at the age of 18.  The father who was out of picture before the mother knew she was pregnant.  In other words ... there was no relationship.  Right or wrong ... the decision was made not to inform the father or ... search out the father's family.  Mother is now 26 years old ... happily married with two more children.

From the point of view of the my friend ... the Grandmother ... it makes sense not to complicate her daughter and grandaughter's life.  However ... I know if either of my sons had fathered a child in a relationship prior to getting married ... I would not want them left out of the equation and ... I know I would not want to be left out of the equation.

Janet.

Well after reading everything and trying to catch up I have come to the conclusion that the whole family is tied into this in one way or another.........I also think if Casey was checking out missimg children sites even before Caylee came up missing then to me this means only one thing......she was trying to get rich quick and get alot of sympathy in the deal also...Im sure that everyone remembers the Adam Walsh story.....and they know that to this day Mr. Walsh makes his living looking for other missing children and is well known and they did come into some money ofter the fact by the people he met and got to know during the search for his son....To me I think this would kill two birds with one stone in Caseys mind........get rid of Caylee and put her in the spotlight ....interviews   and   maybe synpathy money coming in from caring people.......She never exspected thing s to turn out the way they did.............I really cant stand her.............................or any of them.............

I saw this when originally posted and the poster came out and apologized and said it was a joke.

Thanks Muffy. I didn't know.

Shell & Mary Mary---you are soooooo right!  My interpretation of this family is that they are all delusional and NUTTIER THAN SQUIRREL SH** !!!   ::MonkeyConfused::

She could have also read the missing kids stories to help her create a story for caylee's disappearance

Did anyone get the missing kids website names that casey was visiting? I wonder if any of those kids stories are close the hers..She may have picked something up from there to add to her story

No they don't seem to have that.  They seem to be a family unto themselves.
I don't have a good fix on Lee.  What was his relationship with his Mother.
Or was there so much focus on Casey's antics that there was little time left for Lee.
They all seem to behave in ways that regular people would not.  Lee destroying Amy's key - why wouldn't he arrange to return it to her?  Picking up Casey's belongings instead of leaving that to LE. 
Cindy rifling through those belongings - washing some - will be ever know if evidence was lost? 

Well yea she would have found out how each and every one of those children came up missin also but knowing what kind of girl she is and seeing how she wanted money and to be the center of attention I can bety you that the (limelight) of the situation was what drew her more than anything...

In all fairness, I think it is worth noting that no one knows WHO was making what search, really. We just know that the searches that have been revealed were made on that computer.

Just wanted to make that point.

Yes thats one of the first things that seemed ODD  to me to in his statement about disposing of the key for Amy....how did he know she wanted it destroyed ....maybe she wanted it back for her own reasons   and by the way...how do you destroy a key.............thats so stupid...

True, I think Casey creates a life and picks up bits and pieces from what she reads or sees.  Since she invented Zani the Nanny she needed to find a person who's name would coincide with Zani, that's probably when she started looking up Zenaida. 

Hey---one last question tonight for any Monkeys---does anyone know what is happening tonight @ Hopespring Dr. since the Anthony's cancelled the candlelight vigil?  Were there any events with protestors after all the new info was released?

Point taken...but still it doesnt really matter who was searching the factg of the matter is that it was someone in that household and then   boom  all of a sudden ...they have a missing child too   and so if it wasnt Casey....then the whole bunch of them is in on something which wouldnt surprise me either.....

Nothing tonight but aren't the vigils usually on Sunday night?  Wasn't today Saturday or am I a day behind again, LOL  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Well he is also the one that went on national tv and stated they were throwing some gifts away that smelled or were junkie...He is a real brainiac..I have high hopes this case will get solved with him leading the investigation...lol!

heh ... yeah, the vigils have been on Sunday nights. And, yes, this is Saturday night, Klaas ;-)

No read if tomorrow's vigil has been canceled, but I am willing to bet it has.

Baez Reviews Newly-Released Documents
Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:04:02 PM

More Documents, Interviews Released
Hundreds of new legal documents, pictures, and interviews were released Friday as the search for the missing 3-year-old continues.

For the first time, we're seeing the interview between the missing girl's grandmother and a revealing new look at Caylee's mother, Casey.

In the documents, Casey refers to Caylee as a "snot head" while chatting with a former boyfriend.

In another chat, Casey said it will be a "good time" if a friend could score some Xanax for them.

However, one of the most revealing things was a new videotaped interview with Cindy Anthony.

She insists Caylee is with the so-called nanny who deputies said doesn't exist.

"If I’m gonna ‘Mom, I have to work late, so I’m going to leave Caylee with Zani, because I have to get up in the morning, and I’m going to stay at Zani's so I can go to work.’ Casey never came home and left Caylee anywhere else. That would have been a red flag and she would have known I was irritated as heck and I would have made her go back and get her because you wouldn't leave her at the babysitters," Cindy said in the interview with the sheriff's office.

Cindy Anthony went on to insist Casey is not a murderer, but admitted that Zani may not exist, and said whoever Casey is calling Zani is one of Casey's friends, who she thinks has the girl.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/27/petition_protests_possible_movie_deal_on_caylee.html?refresh=1

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Cindy Anthony Interview - Part 1
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=CAPART1_092720080105&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Anthony%20Interview%20Part%201


Cindy Anthony Interview - Part 2
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=CAPART2_092620080824&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Anthony%20Interview%20Part%202


Cindy Anthony Interview - Part 3
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=CAPART3_092620080932&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Anthony%20Interview%20Part%203


Cindy Anthony Interview - Part 4
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=CAPART4_092620081104&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Anthony%20Interview%20Part%204

Good Night Monkeys

Janet
9:15 PM PT

Hi Everyone!

I hope this is OK to post...if not, please delete.  Brian (dream researcher...yes, apparently they do exist) posted this on his site http://www.BriansPrediction.com/. Looks like non of this was confirmed..not sure how much of it I believe but I guess it's food for thought...

Mention of:
SEX VIDEO (????)  Has anyone heard of this before?
Testing the hair to determine the level of Xanax...
Determinated the time frame to be 11 days from the date that the CSI test was done on hair and body fluids

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/behind-the-scenes-info/

Janet do you know if there are any written transcripts of Cindy's interviews.
I tried to listen to them this morning and couldn't hear them.

Klaas---you are right---they are usually Sundays...my mistake---but NH said on her show tonight that they cancelled their participation in the vigil tonite at the last minute I guess....

((((sigh))))  Here's what I hope for come Monday:

        *  The stock market won't take a huge nose dive
        *  There is more progress for LE on the case moving forward,
            or--by some miracle- that Caylee is found.

Night Monkeys !   ::MonkeyRoll::

Good night Anewgirl

    It goes both ways... Cindy being a nurse and being around lots of people you would think there would be visitors lending a shoulder, bringing food, keeping company etc... same goes for neighbors. Same for George, he should have buddies, co workers etc.  If you are a true friend you wouldn't let the attention of the case stop you. Have George and Cindy been invited to anyone's house for dinner? That would be the kind thing to do. Which means they are really cold nasty people even before this happened. But also you would  think people would be lining up to badmouth them. And nothing here either. It's almost like people are scared of them.

Nite Janet

Nite ANewGirl

You just reminded me about Cindy seeing a therapist before.  I would think AND hope she continues to see one now, under the circumstances!   I pray a therapist can help her understand how disturbing and hurtful to the case is by her 'denial' or protection of her narcissitic, selfish, little bitch of a daughter she has and what she has put her through really is.  Cindy will never heal, until she faces the facts.  She needs a therapist more now, than ever, as the entire family does!

  Wow...Bella...I was just going to hit the hay when I clicked on your link and read "Brian's Disclaimer".....that was very interesting and I think some of it could actually be credible.  Hope he is right about arresting her soon.

Just like poor Natalee Holloway---I don't think little Caylee's body will be found anytime soon...sadly. ::MonkeyNoNo::   Thanks Bella for the link

'night Janet and ANewgirl ...

Sorry, I think I am lagged.  LOL

Oh that's right, it's just my brain that is lagged.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I have mentioned this multiple times before and it is disturbing.  I'm still curious about Cindy's brother, who had some information that appeared could be pertinent to the case, but she shut him up.  That is very telling, along with the lack of support of family and friends.

I beleive there is so much more underlying problems, that we may or may not ever find out.

:) I agree, I don't think they will ever kind her body...poor child won't even have a proper burial...breaks my heart.

I don't remember who posted the link for the petition,(Klaas, was it you?)  ::MonkeyConfused:: But thank you so much! I'll make sure to pass it to everyone I know.

I think I will call it a night, too.

I hope everyone has a good night! See you all tomorrow.

IMO They are beyond the need of a therapist.  That family is ready for in-house Psychiatric treatment.

What haunts me is my initial reaction to Casey's comment to Cindy during the jail phone call ... "You don't know what my INVOLVEMENT is?!?!"

This speaks volumes to me that the family was in on it, and that Cindy should have known what that involvement was by the time that call was made.

Good Night all monkeys.. and thank you Klaas for your help with my pic today ::MonkeyDance::

OT:  Can someone tell me how to post a picture at the bottom of my text like in a signature?  I have tried a few different ways and can't get it show up....thank you> ::MonkeyEek::

I ran this Eric James Baker thru Ancestry. com and NO records exist using that birth date and death date, KY. or Tenn., Florida, or N.C.

I tried every combination and these records are very up to date and nothing can be found.

Could KC have put this out on a website and make this up?

Good night, Cheerio ... nice to hear from you tonight :)

Good night Donna Karen
Good night Cheerio

I just figured this out tonight! use the (http://path) tag
path is like http://placewherethefileis/filename.extension

How about Trenton Duckett?

:smt039 :smt039 :smt039

I read someone's post about GA interview but I can't find it.   Does anybody have a link or was this just a typo?

Goodnight, Monkeys.   After watching and reading interviews everytime I had a chance today, I'm on overload.  

What a monumental mess this 22 year old has created.  Numerous lies are uncovered with each and every interview.   The lies she told about the car accident and the entire "Tampa trip" with Zanny and the new crap that came up each day to keep her away for even longer is enough in itself.  

For Casey, lying is as natural and automatic as breathing.

sorry, that did not work, because I used the tag  LOL ... use this without the spaces ...

[ img ] path [ /img ]

I'm way behind so forgive me if I am posting something that has already been discussed.  I haven't listened to the Lee interview yet but I did read the transcripts and this is what I came away with: 

Lee is a goody-two-shoes. 

IIRC, he was in the honor society.  His sister didn't graduate.  He's employed.  His sister isn't.  I think he is used to feeling superior and thinking he's the organized, level-headed one of the family.  So Casey messed up, once again, and he gets his notepad and sets to work.  He thinks the LA will be impressed with him and it seemed to me the LA played off this.  Even the key incident just seemed like a way for him to tell the cops how on top of everything he was.  Amy didn't even have to ask, he had already handled it.  I just can't see him being involved in the crime.  He's too much of a goody goody.  I do think he may be guilty of later trying to mitigate any damages to his family.  I may revise this opinion after hearing the audio...

JMO

I agree, probably not with a granfather in the LE for years.  Evien if he didn't help hide the body, it' possible Casey learned a few things from him, not to mention the internet and CSI type shows, where a plethora of information is found on all and anything!

Brandi, I think you've mentioned your concern before "You don't know what my INVOLVEMENT is?!?!"  - I never quite understood.  I think I get it now.  She is exclaiming to her Mother that she is surprised she doesn't know what her involvement is.  In other words, Casey thought she had been briefed by someone who knew. - which would mean another fam. member/s knows.   Do I have that right?

Just for kicks and giggles i took this off brian's site..I really don't believe all of this.

We all seem to agree on one thing, Caylee is already located or the police are about to find her.

Brian

I will pray they are right on finding her already

Wow - I hope we find this Eric, and I for one want to see his photo.  If in fact this is not more of CA delusions, could be possible father - dare we say,
"The saddest part of this case, will be if we find the father before Caylee."

Well, the parents of him were interviewed (possibly on NG, if I recall?) and shocked and upset they could possibly have a grandchild, they werene't aware of.  So I believe he exists.

Or mabye that was Jesus's parents.  Hell, it's hard to keep track of all the men she's been with.  They are ALL probably wondering, "am I the father"?  How unfair!  But so typical for her to keep things in her own fantasy and selfish lil' world.  Lord, such evil!

At the risk of sounding line an Anthony ... Absolutely!
 ::MonkeyDance::

Just listened to Cindy's interview Pt 3 and almost began to laugh at what those poor detectives were dealing with.  How could Cindy remember all these minute details of Casey's lies.  The poor cops were ready to throw the calendar at her I think.  Than the other detective comes over and says Ok let's focus on the truth not the lies, kind of thing.  I need to recover before I can listen to part 4.  Heeeeeeeeeellp, it's mind boggling.   ::MonkeyConfused::   

Thank you for your assessment.  He does seem a bit cocky!

Just want to bring this forward:

I ran this Eric James Baker thru Ancestry. com and NO records exist using that birth date and death date, KY. or Tenn., Florida, or N.C.

I tried every combination and these records are very up to date and nothing can be found.

Could KC have put this out on a website and make this up?

Donuts, good analysis.  I tend to agree with you on Lee

Today is my b-day, so please don't ignore me!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

sorry, took me awhile to find it again. I usually d/l them so I have them on my computer to listen to when I want.

It's at http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedfiles/audio/GeorgeAnthoneyOne.WMA

Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday Dear MT and I'm sorry I can't find it too!!!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks Brandi. LOL!  Absolutely has taken on a whole new meaning!
I heard that interview and at the time I guess I missed it as an question.
Casey was being so surly - I took it as a sarcastic response to her Mother.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MyTime!!!!   ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

I looked it up all last night and found nothing either i was starting to think maybe she did make it up but the pages was created back in 2007 and was not accessed after that so it may really be i did find a court record for child support fo a eric j baker in orlando a long time ago thinking it was maybe his dad there is nothing on this guy at all

FINALLY a picture of the Anthon'y trash bag that the "Trash Lady" stole........ ::MonkeyHaHa::

Happy, happy birthday Mytime!

Goodnight good Monkeys, sleep tight!

Good night, can :-)

Hysterical   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Casey just added this pic to her Facebook... Nice to know she has the time to take aside from worrying about jail and her kid being dead to pose for a new picture... Way to go... Another fine example of the Mother of the Year Cindy talks about... She probably held the cam for this shot... (sarcastic on my part, in case ya'll didn't notice  ::MonkeyShocked:: )

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7154/n1467524931300554208043pe1.jpg)

I have read at Brian's site  on occasion during the Holloway case, but haven't looked in awhile.   Anybody know of his accuracy rate?   I'm typically sceptacle of people who claim to "see" things.

OMG!  I am from Ohio and a huge Buckey fan!  She just disgraced them in that pic  ::MonkeyWaa::

Eric James Baker
>in memory of an old friend

"We all have great inner power.  The power of self-faith.  There's really an attitude to winning.  You have to see yourself winning before you win.  And you have to be hungry.  You have to want to conquer."  -Jesus Ortiz

Forever in my heart.

Someone special: 

R.I.P.

Eric James Baker
12-8-83 - 8-11-07


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Okay, to quote myself her, CA grandma said that EJB lives in Kentucky or TN.  But do you see who the upon note was signed by?  Jesus Ortiz...the one that was killed in a car crash and who CA said was the father.  Jesus Ortiz must have been friends with EJB.  How ironic that they both died in a car accident.  At least now we have a death date for EJB.
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Does anyone know where he was living or born this Chris? We could probably pull the obituary from the paper archives
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That could also fit casey's  story about the accident on the way to caylee's birthday party..He died two days after caylees b-day..My kids dad was in the hospital for 2 days before they pronounced him brain dead..Just thinking out loud
[/quote]
Wow - I hope we find this Eric, and I for one want to see his photo.  If in fact this is not more of CA delusions, could be possible father - dare we say,
"The saddest part of this case, will be if we find the father before Caylee."
[/quote]


I looked it up all last night and found nothing either i was starting to think maybe she did make it up but the pages was created back in 2007 and was not accessed after that so it may really be i did find a court record for child support fo a eric j baker in orlando a long time ago thinking it was maybe his dad there is nothing on this guy at all
[/quote]

But didn't Jesus die in may '07 in a car crash?

[/quote]
Okay, to quote myself her, CA grandma said that EJB lives in Kentucky or TN.  But do you see who the upon note was signed by?  Jesus Ortiz...the one that was killed in a car crash and who CA said was the father.  Jesus Ortiz must have been friends with EJB.  How ironic that they both died in a car accident.  At least now we have a death date for EJB.
[/quote]
Does anyone know where he was living or born this Chris? We could probably pull the obituary from the paper archives
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That could also fit casey's  story about the accident on the way to caylee's birthday party..He died two days after caylees b-day..My kids dad was in the hospital for 2 days before they pronounced him brain dead..Just thinking out loud
[/quote]
Wow - I hope we find this Eric, and I for one want to see his photo.  If in fact this is not more of CA delusions, could be possible father - dare we say,
"The saddest part of this case, will be if we find the father before Caylee."
[/quote]


I looked it up all last night and found nothing either i was starting to think maybe she did make it up but the pages was created back in 2007 and was not accessed after that so it may really be i did find a court record for child support fo a eric j baker in orlando a long time ago thinking it was maybe his dad there is nothing on this guy at all
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But didn't Jesus die in may '07 in a car crash?
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YES!

Can Casey or any of her friends take a picture without doing the puckered lip thing , I can't stand it anymore.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Thank you Brandi and thank you MM!  ::MonkeyWink::

LOL.  For all those newbies who complain about being 'ignored',  If it's any comfort,  I've been here for over 3 yrs. and still do most of the time, like tonight.  I should be used to it by now.

So heading off to bed now.

One last thing.  Even though the bitch discraces the Buckeyes, they WON today!  ::cartwheel::

thank you and G'nite!

Found this thru Google search:

Eric James Baker, 22, and Michelle Ashley Carroll, 23, both of Chambersburg, Pa.

at this location:  http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=166158&format=html

Thank you and Bella is beautiful!

Good Night :)

Me to.. I have a hard time believing it to...Yet something keeps drawing me to their findings and thoughts...Me being me i believe they have guessed right a time or two.

Good night, Dihannah1 .. I know the feeling ... sorry if I missed your post!
Sleep well!

Did Casey get a haircut or is this an old picture?  She makes me sick!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It's old ... I have seen it before.

I believe this is an old photo.

Happy Birthday MyTime!

Barf, gag  :smt078

Can her computer she is using now still be searched? Or do they have to get a warrant and all that again? I'd be curious to see what sites she's been on since she's been on  home confinement.

Interesting Profile on Casey...a little too technical for me but here is the summary:

http://crimsonshadows.net/content/view/168/

I have a statement and a question... well two questions...

First, after having Casey add me as a friend today, her new status is... "As of today no more friends will be added(until further notice) ppls hate for me has overshadowed the search for caylee"... and this HATE for her might be partly because in every single picture she has of herself on there is where she is SMILING really big and wide, like she is the happiest person in the world... Why would she have these pics up after her kid has been "kidnapped"??? Man... she really just makes me mad with her lack of passion for her own daughter... (BTW i think she killed her...)

My questions are:

1) Why would she be looking at missing children websites? I mean, what would be the reason? Perhaps to see what are good reasons for kids to go missing???  ::MonkeyEek::

2) Where are the files that say she was looking up the name Zaneida on the internet? That name is very unusual and to actually have someone in Orlando with that exact name, Zaneida Fernandez Gonzalez??? Was she purposely setting her up for something...???

Well thanks in advance... I am just confused by her actions...

~Vixen

I have read at Brian's site  on occasion during the Holloway case, but haven't looked in awhile.   Anybody know of his accuracy rate?   I'm typically sceptacle of people who claim to "see" things.

The past few night i have been dreaming about caylee..I think i spend to much time obsessing on this case and that's what it's trying to tell me.  I really think just my opinion not a dream...I think they have found her and we will hear something soon. Those bones found are just bugging me since they haven't confirmed them being animal yet..Doesn't take that long to tell animal from human bones... just who's human bones they are

Where's Carpe????  I'm waiting for my Photshop grade  ::MonkeyWink::

I have a feeling that the Anthonys' are going down the list of possible fathers (which is a long list).  They figure that there are enough possibilies to put one out per week for the next six months.  That should keep the media and us occupied.

I think about this often too MsRock.....If LE does have remains...wouldn't they charge her right away??  Would there be a good reason to wait?  I wonder what the evidence that they haven't released looks like...I just can't understand how they don't have "enough" to file charges!!!???!!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Thank you Mammy, another year older and none the wiser!  I actually believed (past tense) this was a tragic accident and she freaked out!!

Also his website has Jesus as putting something out there upon his death in August 2007 but I thought Jesus died in May of 2007?  I think Casey might have done this.

I'm with you..I think she killed her to and i think her cop friend help find the nanny. I find his statement and lies just like casey. The only difference with him in his statement when the cops brought up the im's he remembered..Where casey kept lying..I'm also bothered by the fact he wasn't the only cop that had sexual relationship with Casey but he was the only one fired over it..He was also rude when referring to caylee as the offspring. The nanny as call that other b*tch.. What a piece of work.

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Okay, to quote myself her, CA grandma said that EJB lives in Kentucky or TN.  But do you see who the upon note was signed by?  Jesus Ortiz...the one that was killed in a car crash and who CA said was the father.  Jesus Ortiz must have been friends with EJB.  How ironic that they both died in a car accident.  At least now we have a death date for EJB.
[/quote]
Does anyone know where he was living or born this Chris? We could probably pull the obituary from the paper archives
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That could also fit casey's  story about the accident on the way to caylee's birthday party..He died two days after caylees b-day..My kids dad was in the hospital for 2 days before they pronounced him brain dead..Just thinking out loud
[/quote]
Wow - I hope we find this Eric, and I for one want to see his photo.  If in fact this is not more of CA delusions, could be possible father - dare we say,
"The saddest part of this case, will be if we find the father before Caylee."
[/quote]


I looked it up all last night and found nothing either i was starting to think maybe she did make it up but the pages was created back in 2007 and was not accessed after that so it may really be i did find a court record for child support fo a eric j baker in orlando a long time ago thinking it was maybe his dad there is nothing on this guy at all
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But didn't Jesus die in may '07 in a car crash?
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I believe Jesus Ortiz died in May of this year.  What is the link to the child support?  Is it in the Florida courts?

My guess on the bones is that they want cause of death...I also feel they have another fish they want to throw in the frying pan with casey...Maybe even more people they want but not to be charged for murder..jmo

As I have stated before, no one knows for sure WHO was doing these searches and visiting these sites, we just know they were performed on that computer.

In the document with Cindy Anthony's cell phone forensics, Cindy had a J. Duckett and a Carla Duckett listed in her phone memory, meaning she had those phone numbers programmed into her phone.

I did not follow the Duckett case, so I do not know if these people are related to that. But if they are, it's possible that Cindy did the searches and cared about that case. It could be completely innocent.

Probably isn't, but, just saying ... it could be.

My opinion of Brian from Brian's Dreams is that HE is a fraud.  That doesn't mean that some of what is emailed to him couldn't be OK, just that he and his dreams are fraudulent.

Oops...missed a piece:

I have thought about sending Jesse Grund a message through myspace(he accepted my friend request) and telling him that many people support him and wanted to let him know that the ScaredMonkeys are on his side. Would you guys be OK with that?

After reading the transcripts of the cop Anthony R. that got fired, boy am I glad he is no longer in LE.  He has a real problem with the truth. IMO

I could see his attraction to Casey.

I really don't know much about forensics...but can they determine a cause of death from bones?  I guess it's possible to test any remaining tissue for drugs and any other evidence surrounding the body.  Either way, I think she will never see daylight again....the check fraud alone was 70 something years..wasn't  it?

I don't think they will charge Cindy with anything...I truly believe that she is completely delusional ...and a heartbroken mother and grandmother.  Lee, I don't think he's guilty of anything except being caught up in this horrible family.  But, George...I don't know.  He has too much experience in LE and he's scetchy. ....JMO

Sure we could set up a separate thread like we did for Tony & Clint.

Nite Klass  :smt015

I just want to say this. When I was younger - once and a while, my mother and I would argue (I can say now that she was always in the right) but if my boyfriend ever got involved and said one word to my mother, I would have been so mad at him.  I think Jesse should have just minded his own business. IMO

'night

Goodnight Klaas!

Just wanted to say, I share your pain and have had it rough with being jumped on for my newbie mistakes - but I say, lets keep on trying - our voices are important too!  Hugs - from N. Ky but my heart is still in Ohio!

Good nite Klaas - did you miss me this week?  ::MonkeyWink::

BEER PONG Anyone....guess this was what Amy and the Detective were talking about... ::MonkeyHaHa::

Don't know if this is an old pic...

Brandi or anyone:
I paused NG Friday when she was showing the sites that computer visited, did anyone else see all the escort and modeling services listed? 
If so, please don't throw the fire nanner at me, I still have 60 pages to read in the last thread.  If so, are those online and does anyone have a link handy, please?

The forensic guy on ng said that in some cases certain disposal of the body could slow down decomposition. I took it meaning conditions like ground water and what she may have wrapped or buried her in..

I could not figure out why she had the Duckett's listed in her phone either.  J Duckett is Josh (Trenton's father) ..Carla is Josh's mom I think (Trenton's Grandma) . The Duckett case was in Lake County quite a ways from the Anthony's.  Plus Trenton has been missing over 2 years now. A lot of people in the Orlando area (where I was from) were following and hearing a lot about the Duckett's and Jennifer Kesse (missing adult).  So could be that Casey identified with Melinda Duckett since they were both young single mom's the same age. I dunno.... so many twists, turns and lies in this Casey case  ::MonkeyNoNo::

   



I thought you left Happy Birthday
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I checked them all out...for hours....not the most enjoyable thing to look at...didn't find anything of significance yet.  Some of the links don't work or have been shut down.  There is a common extension to some....
rareescort
cityvibe

I believe Carpe copied them in the prior thread somewhere.

I was just thinking the same thing about the missing kids site's..I was thinking that duckett was a big case like this and she may have been keeping up on it..Cindy i think mentioned talking to one of the ducketts after caylee went missing.

No I am here! One thing I can say about Casey is that she actually returned calls and her phone didn't even hold a charge!!!!!

My brain is toast.

I need sleep.

You all have a great evening/day and I'll catch you all tomorrow.

Good night monkeys!

Bella - You rock the jungle girl!!!!!!!!!  I am of course wondering, as I have all along if this was her "job" - guess the bit of truth is that she worked UNIVERALly!  My gut has told me from the beginning that she was either into illegal activities such as drugs or even selling cc info on internet or porn/sex industry.  But, something tells me I am preaching to the choir and you guys will have already said all this when I catch up reading! 
I will finish reading before I post again, but again - THANK YOU BELLA.

Goodnight Brandi!

Good night Brandi, have a nice sleep!

I seen her phone bills in those records..No she had no problem using it sometimes to the tune of over 500.00 dollars...WOW!

Stop it you did not call me today! I was thinking about it earlier though maybe you lost your sim card

I am listening to GA's interview right now.  He is such a whimp!!

I did lose it but my office has a phone and either your monkey's is Charlie or Casey you gave me the wrong number!

Also very telling... From the Police report of the search through her computer is an image of a quote form Tupac...

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3061/11gs3.jpg)

... which is exactly what she did in her mind... moved the ***k on.... now if only the pesky LE would get off her back so she can continue to move the ***k on... (sarcastic)

Its tough living in a house full of women guys

Now he is blowing his own horn!  He has talent?  He didn't even know his own daughter didn't even have a job!  He is a nincompoop!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks...can I have a banana....I'm suffering from insomnia and hunger..lol

I ABSOLUTELY believe that something is going to come of this in terms of her job.  Her cell phone ping map was all over the place.  In my head, I picture her drugging Caylee (Xanax, Chloroforme..whatever) and leaving her in the car while she "went inside".  Or it's possible that she would take her in with her and put her in another room?

I'm sorry (and maybe a little nieve) but nobody visits these types of sites unless they have an "idea".  These sites are crazy and the pictures that people post embarrass me.  I find the consistency of the searches to be interesting...Orlando and California.  I know people were talking of her possibly going to CA to see her Army guy. 

However, there is still a chance that someone else could have been using Casey's computer whether it be at Tony's apartment or somewhere else.  I was bitting my nails....waiting to see a picture of her....THEN...my husband walked in.  Yea that was a fun "explanation"...lol   ::MonkeyWaa::

LOL you called Charlie?? who is Charlie?? Oh I am sorry maybe I gave you my nanny's number sorry i am such a spiteful biotch!!

did i really give you the wrong number??

That's exactly what she is thinking!   ::MonkeyConfused::

George knows alot about alot of things!!!!  SOrry guys wishI could be of more help....with you no the child

When they do the puckering, I always see a mustache!!!

George is not a very bright man, huh?


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Okay, to quote myself her, CA grandma said that EJB lives in Kentucky or TN.  But do you see who the upon note was signed by?  Jesus Ortiz...the one that was killed in a car crash and who CA said was the father.  Jesus Ortiz must have been friends with EJB.  How ironic that they both died in a car accident.  At least now we have a death date for EJB.
[/quote]
Does anyone know where he was living or born this Chris? We could probably pull the obituary from the paper archives
[/quote]
That could also fit casey's  story about the accident on the way to caylee's birthday party..He died two days after caylees b-day..My kids dad was in the hospital for 2 days before they pronounced him brain dead..Just thinking out loud
[/quote]
Wow - I hope we find this Eric, and I for one want to see his photo.  If in fact this is not more of CA delusions, could be possible father - dare we say,
"The saddest part of this case, will be if we find the father before Caylee."
[/quote]


I looked it up all last night and found nothing either i was starting to think maybe she did make it up but the pages was created back in 2007 and was not accessed after that so it may really be i did find a court record for child support fo a eric j baker in orlando a long time ago thinking it was maybe his dad there is nothing on this guy at all
[/quote]

But didn't Jesus die in may '07 in a car crash?
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I believe Jesus Ortiz died in May of this year.  What is the link to the child support?  Is it in the Florida courts?
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He died in May of 2007.  Also, this is an Arnold Schwarzenneger quote Jesus Ortiz had on his Myspace page.

Can someone tell me where this memorial is copied from?  I can't find it referenced other than this quote stack?  TIA!

My wife sent me to work!!   Come on, your car smells like death, your grandchild is missing and you went to work!!

Awesome. :)

The Village Idiot!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Does anyone know where he was living or born this Chris? We could probably pull the obituary from the paper archives
[/quote]
That could also fit casey's  story about the accident on the way to caylee's birthday party..He died two days after caylees b-day..My kids dad was in the hospital for 2 days before they pronounced him brain dead..Just thinking out loud
[/quote]
Wow - I hope we find this Eric, and I for one want to see his photo.  If in fact this is not more of CA delusions, could be possible father - dare we say,
"The saddest part of this case, will be if we find the father before Caylee."
[/quote]


I looked it up all last night and found nothing either i was starting to think maybe she did make it up but the pages was created back in 2007 and was not accessed after that so it may really be i did find a court record for child support fo a eric j baker in orlando a long time ago thinking it was maybe his dad there is nothing on this guy at all
[/quote]

But didn't Jesus die in may '07 in a car crash?
[/quote]
I believe Jesus Ortiz died in May of this year.  What is the link to the child support?  Is it in the Florida courts?
[/quote]

He died in May of 2007.  Also, this is an Arnold Schwarzenneger quote Jesus Ortiz had on his Myspace page.

Can someone tell me where this memorial is copied from?  I can't find it referenced other than this quote stack?  TIA!
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I think it is page 412 of the documents

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I asked if him and his dad would like to do the radio show he Mr. Grund said he was gonna pray on it and give me an answer in a few days...Hopeflly I will hear something tomorrow

 ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

TeeeHeeee   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Devious little peckerwood too!


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more more  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I like your little "boo" hat!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyDance::

OMG!!  No wonder they thought he had talent.....he has a face like Jim Carrey's!

Toot that horn, Georgiewithyourshortsuptoyournippleline!!

HONK HONK!!

As Casey would say.....honestly, I don't like JG.  I think he a arrogant know it all.  He is righteous, Come on, jstfu!  Sorry in advance if I offened anyone!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

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I think he is too stupid to be involved.  He doesn't even poop without Cindy's permission!!

Look what these 2 people produced!  Who would have ever thunk it. (sarcasm)

Thanks Mammy! ::MonkeyWink::

Haven't they learned to do the puckerface????   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Absolutly

Absolutely!!   ::MonkeyLaugh::  DId you read my post about minding his own business?

I don't understand how either of them could smile & laugh.  I would be a basket case by now!

If I had to bury one of my boys, there better be room for me.....

Good night everyone!

Only Universal event planners do the pucker face!  ::MonkeyWink::

No what was it I skipped pages ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good night, your baby is sooooooooooo cute! 

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Found this on a google search

Contact Information
File Format: Microsoft Word - View as HTML
ACADEMIC: Full Sail Real World Education Winter Park, FL. Associates of Science Degree in Computer Animation 2002. Metropolitan Community Colleges Kansas ...
www.ericjbaker.com/curriculumVitae.doc - Similar pages - Note this

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Nite MyTime....Thank you :)  I love her so much it hurts....Hope you have a great BDay  ::MonkeyDance::

Night night, bellabeauty08.

Goodnight Bella!

Hey Carpe...real quick before I go....what's my grade on my recent project?

I just got here, did I miss a project? Excuse me if I did. What was it?

Here it is?  My daughter's future boyfriend better never open his mouth!!

That could also fit casey's  story about the accident on the way to caylee's birthday party..He died two days after caylees b-day..My kids dad was in the hospital for 2 days before they pronounced him brain dead..Just thinking out loud
[/quote]
Wow - I hope we find this Eric, and I for one want to see his photo.  If in fact this is not more of CA delusions, could be possible father - dare we say,
"The saddest part of this case, will be if we find the father before Caylee."
[/quote]


I looked it up all last night and found nothing either i was starting to think maybe she did make it up but the pages was created back in 2007 and was not accessed after that so it may really be i did find a court record for child support fo a eric j baker in orlando a long time ago thinking it was maybe his dad there is nothing on this guy at all
[/quote]

But didn't Jesus die in may '07 in a car crash?
[/quote]
I believe Jesus Ortiz died in May of this year.  What is the link to the child support?  Is it in the Florida courts?
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He died in May of 2007.  Also, this is an Arnold Schwarzenneger quote Jesus Ortiz had on his Myspace page.

Can someone tell me where this memorial is copied from?  I can't find it referenced other than this quote stack?  TIA!
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I think it is page 412 of the documents
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Thank you!

Here is it....lol  PS is fun!

I bet and thank you again!

How did you find that i am trying to see if their is any pictures i cant tell because a movie was released after 2007 on his resume

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Oh my goshhhhh.... you put some work into that, I can tell!

It is great.



A +   ::MonkeyWink::

Thanks  ::MonkeyDance::  I'm trying...you've inspired me...lol

Have a great nite :)

You too, Bella!  ::MonkeyCool::

No pictures :(

http://www.ericjbaker.com/index.html

Caylee Anthony Time Capsule O' News Clips


Added: September 27, 2008


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzUuHGxt2m8

Carpe, Do you have Vista?  Ever since I dl serv pack it says I need flash9, but it won't dl it.

Still a good find though.... There has to be something out there!! do you remmember the name of the other high school cindy said in her interview?

Anyone...any ideas on what KC was doing the 5-6 days after June 16?  LE calendar is blank on those days and folks being interviewed said they didn't see her then - like she fell off the face of the earth.

What could she have been up to during all that time?

IIRC, NG said this info came off of the "family computer."  Cindy was in counseling and I would think it would take some time to get to the point where a counselor would tell a patient to fight for custody, so the problem was ongoing.  So Casey is acting more and more irresponsible and maybe threatened to leave, go to California, is it possible she even did disappear, but left Caylee at home?  So Cindy is online, trying to figure out what is going on, what options she has if Casey takes off with Caylee (by visiting the missing children sights).  Maybe she had an idea that Casey might be working in the escort business and was looking up that info to find out. 

OR

Casey is looking for somewhere to escape, somewhere to work.  Checking out info on missing kids to see if she did take off if her mom could report Caylee missing and if she'd get in trouble?

Hmmm....

Just brainstorming...

No, I don't to Vista yet Mammy. I try and give them 2 -3 years to work the issues out
first.

Sorry! I wish I could help you with it. I am Vista illiterate, unfortunately.

Just wanted to put in my vote after listening to George's interview.  He is lying.  No way is this an honest interview.  The police know it too.  He is withholding info, probably following Cindy's commands, because he really seems afraid of her!

He had to change his story about the 24th, and Casey getting the gas cans out, because the police would know he smelled the odor from the car.  Which story is true?

He knew Casey's work emails were fake.  He suspected her not working.  Why didn't he and Cindy check on this babysitter?  They suspected it was a lie.

 He said "as gruesome as it could be", him and Cindy did discuss what could have happened to Caylee (meaning at the hands of Casey).  Why blame the media and be so indignant that no one believes them?

 The police said something to the effect; George, we think you are a guy that knows alot of things.  To me, that says they know he is withholding info, lying and covering.

George is basically letting the police know that HE knows Casey probably did something to Caylee, and that there is no babysitter, kidnapping or any other reason that Caylee is missing, except for his daughter DID something to her.  JMHO

A friend said he saw her on the 17,18 or 19 i cant remember his name chris maybe?? SHe was driving Tony truck but i am not sure how accurate that is cause i thought she only had it when he was out of town